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00:00 Hello? No, I don't want your beans! Adam Curry. John C. DeVora. It's Sunday August 28th 2016 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 855 This is no agenda Assuming the role of Alt Wrong and broadcasting live from the capital of drone star state here in Austin Tejas we're in FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where it's a beautiful Sunday all foggy and cold John C. Dvorak I figured the weather was bad these past few days out there by you as well because you launched a new product That's why it did Yeah, oh the leaner report yes that's that's a new product man this is a new product yeah cuz i guess miserable I just might as well sit here and do something You better explain what that is because I liked it

00:55 Yeah, the Liener Report was initiated and sent out with the last newsletter. And it is a...although they'll be tweeted around I suppose. It's a rundown of all the media outlets in which way they're leaning, hence Liener towards which candidate and what their bigotries are. And it'll be expanded. Now, I do one every few weeks what i found really the most interesting is your publishing methodology Yes so the way i see you have that you have a url and i guess that url just stays stays the same You just replace the report with a new report or an updated report when it's ready

01:39 Well, I haven't made that decision yet but i think that's probably what I'll do. Yeah, I mean I could make a page for it if you want to we could have like learner... leaner dot no agenda notes or something? No? We just link to it in the knowagendanotes.com and I think we'll just keep static I think its not a bad idea. Yes, use that URL and then you just keep Keep updating the document. Well, I liked it and what happened was when I was scouring through the pool of clips that I had assembled Of course now i'm looking at everything in that light is Who's leaning? What does this point mean there was a lot of weird stuff happening on the networks Horrendous! I have a bunch of clips and kind of reflect some of this yeah

02:28 There was a slam piece that ABC did for some reason. And by the way, one of the things about... Wait is this the one about Obama? No which one are you thinking off? Oh listen to this! This is A-B-C Oh, just the Obama... oh I got a clip. Okay you play that and i got it. I got a counterclip to that. Kayla Mueller was the young American who was captured by- Yeah! That's my counterclip. How can he be counter if I have the clip? Well do you have the whole clip? The whole clips like four minutes. It's about $1.30 I've got here. Trying to help the young victims of war her parents emailing ISIS from their home their kitchen computer in Arizona

03:09 Tonight here, never before seen video of Mueller as a prisoner tortured by ISIS. She died in captivity and this evening you will hear from her parents who say the president made them a promise A promise they say that was not kept These home movies serve as a mother and father's cherished memory Of a young woman full of life A daughter traveling the world to help the innocent victims of war My name is Taylor Mueller But that all ended with this video I've been here too long. I'm sick, and it's very terrifying here. Kayla Mueller had been taken hostage by ISIS and for the next 17 months her parents Carl and Marsha would fight for her freedom after Kayla was killed in Isis captivity the president came to Arizona to console the Muellers they say he made a promise to help the foundation they set up in her name and then broke it there hasn't been such a donation? Ruh-roh

04:07 I'm still waiting for that donation, Mr. President." Today our team pressed the White House for an answer. Can the Mueller family expect that the president and the Obamas will make a donation to their daughters? The foundation in the name of Kayla Mueller soon I can't speak to any previous conversations that they've had, but the foundation in Kayla's hands is certainly the kind of foundation that the President and First Lady have supported in the past, and I would anticipate that they would make a financial contribution to continue supporting it. But none of that changes to Mueller's belief that the government failed their daughter So we put all our faith in the goverment And they let us down Now you probably saw the same thing I did This was indeed like a four-and-a-half minute piece What is... what is... why? Why?!

05:00 It was a hit piece. I think it... Here's what i think if we're going to go with the leaning report, leaner. The leaner? Um..I think this was a pro-Trump piece Because it's an associative piece. They do this all, there is a long pieces that it's blasting the government for this and that but mostly Obama they target Obama for being a cheap bastard personally to not and then the guy actually does the camera hit the old man when he says We're still waiting for their money then he turns and hits the camera eyeballs it and says mr.. President oh yeah

05:37 That was pretty nasty. Where's your check to my GoFundMe? Damn it! And then they have the nerve to have our spokeshole go up there and say, well you know it's the kind of thing he gives money too so... He probably will give him money too. What kind of a thing is that?! It's the kind of thing he gives money to so he's probably gonna... Why don't you just do it!? Yeah but I think it was associative because you always associate Hillary with this Yeah, yeah. This was a Hillary and Hillary but I think there's a lot in there because it's also about money to foundation and there was a lot of associative stuff there and it came kind of out of the blue just didn't feel like why is your story?

06:21 I mean this is the girl who was supposedly they did the Isis folks Yeah, they're the ones who said that we killed her with a drone. This is the woman that was in there Yes, yes, I remember some building and she got killed now. I remember this story yeah, and yet old it's an old story odd odd They did this Yeah, I found it. This is a jaw-dropper for me too They did they did it on a Friday which is when they don't have a big audience so maybe there was something there but I think had to do with the Countering them really nasty anti Trump piece they did if you may have it The truth their countering their own programming. I guess this is trump trump butt slammed on ABC yeah Really this is an interesting title

07:09 Well, that's because it was I was gonna say slammed but you would get mad. But I think butt slam is okay with me. I like it! It's totally okay with me and Donald Trump just a short time ago pressed to explain why he thinks she's a bigot You'll see how he responds all of this tonight as a new national poll shows Clinton leading now by 10 points above 50% ABC's David Wright and what was said? And how even some Trump supporters seemed taken aback Hours before Hillary Clinton took the stage in Reno, Donald Trump dropped this bomb. Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color...

07:50 Only his votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. Hillary Clinton is a bigot! That woman behind him there appears to be shocked Today Clinton made her case that it's Trump who has been running a racist campaign Donald Trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia He is taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the Republican Party. In some of her strongest language yet, she ran down the list He promoted the racist lie that President Obama is not really an American citizen Using Trump's own words against him She accused him of launching his run for the presidency with another racist lie about Mexican immigrants They're bringing drugs They're bringing crime They're rapists And some

08:44 I assume are good people. There has been a steady stream of bigotry coming from him She also made it clear she doesn't buy Trump's new efforts to reach out to African-American voters. I say this, to the African American community Give Donald Trump a chance We will turn it around. We will make your streets safe so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot which is what's happening now. Trump has stood up in front of largely white audiences and described black communities

09:21 in such insulting and ignorant terms. Today, Clinton's campaign released a new video. The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes we believe in. Donald Trump would be best for the job. For president? Yeah! Trump denounced her new line of attack as a brazen attempt at distraction When Democratic policies fail they are left with only this one tired argument You're racist, you're racist. They keep saying it! It's a tired disgusting argument. That is actually the best thing he said at the end there. It's a tired disgusting argument? What he is saying they have nothing left to say so they just go to the right, you are racist, you are racist

10:12 Yeah, they do that. Now there was even but what's new about that? I don't know There was a yeah, there's a counter piece to this I want to play it this is And you might want to play the thing. This is a gay n. Oh oh guy in Guy N Yeah hold on second where his guy in okay? Well they're doing have to play it No, I just wanna know which one is it which guy and all these RT gain on MOOC Here we go now before you play it just needs a setup because it's supposed to follow or come before the ABC piece I just played yeah, I think it said was say here prelude well should have been played first But this is pretty much as the same day coverage with the same kind of quotes within except They don't bring their racist racist racists thinking but has the same clip ending with Trump

11:08 This is like taking a whole different, you know ABC just went after him had that picture of that woman making goofy faces. Oh he said bigot what does that mean? I don't know and So instead of going in that direction RT goes in a completely different direction because they are extremely irked by a bunch of events Yeah bunch of events that are citing them as And this is one of them and this is Gayane who's quite irked by the story. This is a different direction altogether. Here in the US RT interviewed Green Party nominee Jill Stein, former Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders We extensively covered Occupy Wall Street hardly a right-wing movement

11:54 Fact is, we covered many movements which at their beginning were hardly noticed by the mainstream media. Ahead of this presidential election Hillary Clinton and her campaign have persistently tried to somehow link Donald Trump to the Russian president – to insinuate that Trump is disloyal to his country – to discredit him and his supporters. Earlier this week, Hillary Clinton's campaign manager went on one of the major networks and tried to discredit one of Trump advisers Michael Flynn former head of the US Defense Intelligence Agency by suggesting he has some inappropriate ties with the Russian government. His evidence? Michael Flynn was interviewed by RT and was invited to RT anniversary in Moscow where the Russian president was also a guest

12:40 The gentleman he brought with him to his security briefing just last week is someone who's on the payroll of the Russia Times, which is basically a propaganda arm of the Kremlin. He was sitting two seats away from Vladimir Putin at their 10th anniversary gala For Robby Mook's information RT stands for Russia Today not Russia Times and Michael Flynn is not on RT's payroll In an attempt to brand Clinton opponents as Kremlin agents, the Clinton campaign has shown little to no regard for facts and evidence. Former UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage, who as Gayane mentioned was attacked by Hillary Clinton in her speech has reacted to her comments. He suggested that she should rather spend more time speaking to working people than going after him with what he dubbed dodgy half quotes Donald Trump has also reacted to the barrage of accusations towards his election campaign from his Democratic party rival It's the oldest plane

13:42 in the Democratic playbook. When Democratic policies fail, they are left with only this one tired argument." Yeah it's the same bite everyone likes that one before we go too far I don't know if you saw all of Hillary Clinton speech But she also launched a new angle of attack on Donald Trump. I'm not sure if you caught that or not? Probably not well first of all she led into it beautifully with this clip, which i'm marginally envious Marginally envious It's also what happens when you listen to the radio host Alex Jones Who claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs he even said

14:37 And this really just is so disgusting. He even said the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre were child actors And no one was actually killed there. I don't know what happens in somebody's mind or how dark their heart must be to say things like that, but Trump doesn't challenge these lies He actually went on Jones' show and said your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down This from the man who wants to be president of the United States Yeah, I'm very disappointed First of all, she easily could have said the No Agenda Show. That's marginally envious. There is no television involved in this stuff. But what she... I mean really? Those are your examples?! Hello Clinton campaign! Come to the No Agenda Show if you want some examples from Alex Jones

15:31 My God, for 25 years they've been growing babies in cows! I mean come on that's classic stuff right there. For 20 plus years they had glow-in-the dark... What was that? I'm just saying it was a much better example Yeah but here is another one they could use For twenty plus years they have had glow in the dark dogs you can buy That are part jellyfish Come on That's what you want to play come on Hills for 20 years. They've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas protogen You know about pharmacological corn the hell yeah Now so she sets this up beautifully For her next attack, and this is very interesting now We heard that it was coming I heard a no I guess a day before So until here's what the speech is gonna be about and indeed she rolled it out of course There has always been

16:19 a paranoid fringe in our politics, a lot of it arising from racial resentment. But it's never had the nominee of a major party stoking it encouraging it and giving it a national megaphone until now on David Duke's radio show the other day The mood was jubilant We appear to have taken over the Republican Party, one white supremacist said. Duke laughed No there's still more work to do he replied So no one should have any illusions about what is really going on here The names may have changed

16:55 Racists now call themselves racialists. White supremacist now call themselves white nationalists The paranoid fringe now calls itself alt-right But the hate burns just as bright And now Trump is trying to rebrand himself, but don't be fooled There's an old Mexican proverb that says tell me with whom you walk and I will tell you who you are. But we know who Trump is." Yeah, so saying that the alt-right is now supporting Donald Trump is a big attack which...I don't think there's probably 1% of people know what the alt right is and I'm not even sure what it is

17:36 Well, it has to do with Breitbart and in the same vein. And by the way there's a little poetry she threw a little rhyme in there. Yeah! Hey now! A little rap. It'll be cute. Mexican rap no less yeah She uh that would exactly what you played there is fine because I didn't hear but it fits right in with what's going on as in the playbook Because that means Rachel Maddow Is going to be coming out with something and so she goes after Banyan I only have a piece of this. Let's see where it says That's the that's the bright with the Breitbart guy, the Breitbart guy took over the MSN or him SMB She's took over the head of CEO of the Trump campaign you'll be there for a couple months maybe yeah and So she comes on she does a background on them. I only have the second half of this because it's too long But apparently he was involved with that

18:29 That's that sphere where people lived in it like they're on the moon for months on end something like that I don't know if you remember that. It was a Paul Dishore did a movie about it the biosphere? Biosphere, uh-huh. I think he was in biosphere 2 So she goes off on him and this is right If Hillary sent the cues out she obviously got the memo and here she goes Safety issues at the biosphere He threatened to quote ram it down her bleeping throat He actually admitted to that in court. He said, yeah I said that so he seems nice Steve Bannon Donald Trump's campaign CEO was the guy from biosphere 2

19:14 part of his past today. Today is also the day we learned that Steve Bannon also has a history of being arrested and charged with domestic violence on New Year's Day 1996 police records first reported by Politico in The New York Post show that Steve Bannon's then wife placed to call the 911 according to the police report Mr. Bannon's wife told the responding officers that he had grabbed her by the wrist and then by the neck The report says Bannon's wife then broke away from him and ran into the house to try to call police. He reportedly chased her into the home, grabbed the phone out of her hands and threw it across the room and shattered it in pieces. The police report says responding officers did observe red marks on Mr. Bannon's wife's wrists and on her neck. Officers say they photographed those marks. They also found that her phone, in fact, shattered in pieces on the floor

20:03 Prosecutors did file charges against Steve Bannon at the time. They charged him with domestic violence and battery, and seeking to prevent a crime victim or witness from reporting that crime to authorities That ends up being important Steve Bannon was arraigned on March 12th, 1996. He pled not guilty to all charges but his wife at the time claimed in court documents that Steve Bannon and his lawyer threatened her. Threatened repercussions. Yeah of course. Then back it up okay? Back it up to the point where she says that turns out to be important. Steve Bannon was arrained on March 12th 1996 he pled not guilty to all charges Was there before that? yeah

20:45 Crime victim or witness from reporting that crime to authorities. That ends up being important. Okay, stop now I want you to remember what she said. Yeah it's programming this isn't that's important? That's important. Now we're going to play the rest of the piece which isn't too much longer and I want you to tell me when we get to the end of it what she just said there how it applies to anything in the rest of this report okay so what was the piece that she said was important Back it up. Okay, hold on back it up a little more here We go and seeking to prevent a crime victim or witness right from reporting that crime to authorities Yeah That ends up being important okay so important is that he tried to prevent a witness from reporting a crime

21:30 Yeah, which is kind of what you do when you I mean the guy's a douche. It's a bogus charges as he added charges on that You know yeah also walked with his left foot in there. I mean This is bullcrap Jaywalked The point I'm trying to make here is what she just said stands out like a sore thumb as though now you're an anticipation Yes something's gonna happen Okay play it out Steve Bannon was arraigned on March 12th 1996 He pled not guilty to all charges but But his wife at the time claimed in court documents that Steve Bannon and his lawyer threatened her, threatened repercussions against her and her kids if she showed up to testify against him on those charges. Well when it's court date came up sure enough Mr. Bannon's wife did not show up prosecutor said they couldn't locate their key witness and without her there to testify they said they had no choice but to drop all charges

22:25 Now, late tonight NBC News has obtained further documentation related to the case and specifically to the divorce that happened right after the case went to court and the charges were dropped. This is just in we're just getting this in so I'm just going to quote you directly from NBC's late night reporting tonight. Quote, We have obtained portions of a large divorce case between Stephen Bannon and his ex-wife Even though the divorce was initiated in 1997, the couple was still fighting over everything from their daughter's schooling to spousal support in 2007. In one instance his ex-wife alleged that Steve Bannon objected to his daughters attending a prestigious West LA prep school because of quote, The number of Jews that attend

23:07 The ex-wife went on to say that, quote, he doesn't like Jews and he doesn't like the way they raise their kids to be whiny brats. And he doesn't want the girls going to school with Jews. This is from court documents reported tonight by NBC News. Steve Bannon is now running Donald Trump's presidential campaign. We might as well play it I mean come on we never get a chance to do it. They fuck up their children! Wow, that's a... So you're right. It had nothing to do with what was an important fact. Right. Just in the moment of anticipation is cheap trick! Yes

23:53 She uses it and then she... this turns out to be important. No, it doesn't turn out to be important you never mention it again Wow And then she does what Hillary said in that last clip the last part of your clip Quoting some guy well whoever you walk down the path with is who your you are them You are them guilt by association another cheap trick guilt by association now She does the punchline. This is the guy that's a guy that runs Trump's campaign guilt by association Walking on the same path, but whole thing wraps up Hillary mad owl it's a setup outrageous I think I have more examples for you, but I think I've more All right Okay so let's just stay with the alt-right thing and we'll have to deal with what alt-right is eventually You and I because I'm not really sure

24:44 What it is. It seems like a brand well, it's been defined by the network media people and everybody that we were lit We listened to hmm. It's been defined by them. It's been defined by the left right actually not even the leftest of neocons They've defined it and that's the only definition you have to work with we don't know oh because we haven't looked into your right. Yeah, I mean we know some things here and there and i've received some emails that you know it's a the true alt-right fringe is really a bunch of scary wankers...and I mean that by wankers um but anyway so it carried immediately all those words she said like nationalism and about racism

25:24 Racial, what is he called? Rationalist or whatever. All these words... Racialists! Yes they're all coming in this is a Senator Tom Coburn with Chuck Todd who asked him about this alt-right stuff But Donald Trump did hire the head of Breitbart and Breitbart is a news organization that has been fueling this movement That's just like saying if somebody hires you Chip...uhh..Chuck I don't like to use the word chip He said he said I think he's a saying if somebody knows News organization that has been fueling this movement. That's just like saying if somebody hires you chat chat It's no longer it's not Chuck Chuck Todd is Chet

26:12 Just before he's gonna spank him. That's just like saying if somebody hires you, Chet... Chuck I think that's actually a tactic you can apply If you're going to say something to a prostitute on television You just do something like that Mess up their name Because that gets them on the wrong foot and they'll say oh shit man, you know I'm Chuck how can you say Chet? It could be an action. It could be it could be a tactic you check Chuck and NBC's viewpoint politically is hard as far left anyway, so therefore That is not true. I don't know where are you coming up with an ideological? CNBC NBC MSNBC I watch I see the viewpoints

27:02 We're not left. What are you talking about? Oh, I take offense to that comment. They're actually illiberal so really technically not far left So MSNBC this is where the the talking points are all over all abound Chris Hayes Has yeah, but Michael Eric Dyson on who I think he's a talk show guy But he comes from academia. I don't know I'm saying you've heard of him Yeah, well actually wrote it down somewhere. I'm pretty sure he has a radio show but he comes from from left-wing politics, if you just want to characterize it. And listen to the words he's using. There is this question Michael also about whether how much of this is performance for essentially affluent or suburban white voters particularly white women that voting for Trump in and of itself is not a racist act

27:52 because people do not want to commit that. Right, well and it relates to the point that was just made by brothers I check in regard to its not a conscious choice of many white brothers and sisters if you polled them and asked them they would deny it but isn't that the lure of whiteness? Whiteness has been rendered invisible has been the default position of American identity so that whiteness and nation are seen to be indissolubly linked. And as a result of that, you don't have to talk about whiteness all you have to do is talk about making America great again black people hear those cold words and they understand what they mean. And yes, to your point within African-American culture

28:31 understanding just what's going on here, understanding the play that Donald Trump is making now. And let's be real many African American people see this as okay Kellyanne Conway comes in and says look you're leaving on the table a lot of potential black people who might resonate with you right only problem is they can't resonate with a guy who doesn't understand again if he's not ideological and if his only nationalistism has been indicated again that doesn't mean he's contradicting the principles of white nationalism that means he is reinforcing them without being held to account. And Donald Trump I think is a mass and massively gifted manipulator, and at the end of day there may be no no they're there but what's their at the end of day is the status quo and that status quo has not favored African American people. Alright let's review for a moment.

29:18 Crap, this guy's got a radio show. I can't imagine anyone couldn't listen to this guy for...I didn't know what the hell he said! Well, couple of things first He said okay whiteness is equated to nationalism and therefore black people Understand the code when you say make America great again You're saying make America white again That is pretty much what he said which is that that meme has floated out they tried floating that a few times right? But then, the thing that I like which i have been hearing incessantly be on lookout for is another no agenda gonna irritate the crap out of you think people say is there's no they're there. I'm hearing this all over the place There's no their there! It is one of the weakest sentences I can imagine in English language yeah There's no they're there Everybody says it That phrase was

30:14 first put forward by Gertrude Stein in reference to the city of Oakland. Okay, so I think you could turn that around and say this is just anyone who says there's no they're there or is using that to trigger a thought that Oakland which is mostly black people shooting each other it's what it's very racist thing to say There's No They'Re There because you're referring to Oakland blacks Tell me exactly the context in which Stein said it. She was, she used to I think live around here and she uh...she said it in the context of just her normal political discussion this was in the 30's maybe? The 40's perhaps

31:00 before she became the famous art collector. And she just said, in regards to Oakland, what do we think of Oakland? And she says there's no there there which is a very apt description of the town and that- Meaning this not really a town it's just a blob of sadness Well at the time, no it wasn't... At the time which wasn't as bad as it is today I mean it was approaching becoming an all American city but it had no soul Perhaps maybe there was they needed blacks in this town at the time. I don't know, I don't know the context of the comment but that but she's the one who first said and she got became very famous for saying that about Oakland interesting. I've been hearing this on MSNBC have been hearing it on CNN. You should say if I heard I say are you referring to Oakland? Yeah, you have something against blacks in Oakland

31:52 Why are you saying that? Everyone knows what it refers to. It refers to Oakland." Interesting, we'll have to keep our eyes on that one because it's coming more and more now. Then we have Chris Cuomo on CNN. This is gonna ask John in here he has a Democratic representative from New York Hakeem Jeffries And Hakeem makes a statement, and I want you to... well ask John coming up. Listen up. Well race has its place in the election now to be sure You have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton fighting about who is really the bigot. Spot the bigot! We need a new jingle. Now what would we do? Alliteration something with a B Something the bigot. We need a jingle

32:45 Bring on the bigot now. It's gotta be like spot the spook, spot the spook only it's a bring on the bigot now we'll work on that. Let somebody with who does that sort of thing come up with something. Fighting about who is really the bigot you have Clinton swiping at Trump painting him as a man of history with discrimination from fighting back with insults including outright calling Clinton a a bigot. Is this helpful on any level? Let's bring in our congressman Hakeem Jeffries, he is the congressional black caucus whip and a Clinton supporter. Congressman good to see you. I know the answer to these questions everybody does whose rationales is terrible it couldn't be more counterproductive. The question

33:30 How can this in any way become something that is helpful to improving the situations in certain big city impoverished communities? Well, I think Hillary Clinton consistently would like to keep the campaign focused on issues of empowerment for all Americans including African-Americans. Since when?! There's like 20 seconds listen to the whole thing communities. Well I think Hillary Clinton consistently would like to keep the campaign focused on issues of empowerment for all Americans including the African-American community and other communities of color but time and time again what we found is that Donald Trump has sort of outsourced parts of his campaign to white supremacist groups he did that in a primary in very clear fashion and he's continued that pattern into general election. In fairness... Okay

34:17 So the guy says, Trump has outsourced his campaign to white supremacist groups. And you hear Chris Cuomo starting to interrupt. Now John does Chris Cuomo say hold on a second what evidence do you have of this? Or does he say something else He says something else. It's not even a fun game anymore, is it? In fairness... We can't ignore that There is something we hear Congressman in this election I think especially so which is One side does something that deserves to be criticized. And what they do is, they deflect by saying yeah but what about this thing... We're seeing that right now Hillary Clinton is beating Donald Trump with a big stick of- There's your answer No he just lets it go He just lets it go Yeah course he does That's not..that's a big...

35:10 Think as a news organization you probably wouldn't just let that go the worst those guys I don't know what the deal is with CNN, but as you as I mentioned in The Lerner Report It's it's it's it's in borderline embarrassing to listen to the station Then we have a clip here where they were they have a couple of CNA. I think these are both CNN There's another like I said RT is irked By the whole thing I mean let's play Here, this is an interesting one. Play this RT irked politico tidbit This is an interesting piece of information I just picked up by gonna have to look it up but doesn't surprise me. RTS Caleb Maupin has more

35:54 Hillary Clinton has a peculiar relationship with the US media. While news media outlets like CNN and MSNBC claim to be unbiased, you can't help but notice that when people start criticizing the Democratic nominee for president they get a little bit touchy. You can't just invent things... I'm not inventing anything! You just invented an entire thing! They are letting police through And if you look over this way Alright Miguel thank you so much we're gonna cut you off right now We're gonna cut you off right now It transpired that one of the writers from Politico was actually sending stories not first to his editor, but to the Democratic National Committee apparently for approval. RT definitely is all over it

36:39 Yeah, and my favorite thing is the Politico guy. I mean this is what kind of journalist does this? Which I'll look into and then they had the one cutoff which was uh... This I saw that particular episode with that black woman screaming you're making it up You're making it up when she's quoting from some report And then the other one was getting cut off by, I forgot who was that host on that one. We gotta cut you off! Dave was blatant he didn't know how to do it right. The way you're supposed to do this is hey oh-oh I think we lost a connection... I have had one of those, but not sure exactly where. It's beautiful

37:17 We lost the feed. Oh well, we'll get back to him Sorry satellite transmission issues it's how it goes Please please please please so RT was on a roll And I just got two more clips to play from that so get out of the way but let's play this one. This is, this is the one that really irks them amongst others. This is the Hillary blames Putin clip it's a classic. Meanwhile Clinton says she's found a single source doing everything it can to derail her campaign and it's not an email scandal or suspicious donations to foundation

37:53 The grand godfather of this global brand of extreme nationalism is Russian President Vladimir Putin. And in fact, Farage regularly appears on Russian propaganda programs Now he's standing on the same stage as the Republican nominee Trump himself keeps praise on Putin and embraces pro-Russian policies. Putin! Hold on, clip of the day... I had not heard that one Oh i thought you did No no I will gladly take a clip of the day Dynamite Now the logic of this is eluding because it's like

38:40 Why would Vladimir Putin promote right-wing nationalist movements around the world? He's a communist! So, okay. Hey hey hey those guys are rooting for Putin. Rooting for Putin and it just ludicrous commentary but here's one I don't remember what this is about but its got something to do with this This is Hillary game humor Meanwhile, a US Army unit has described Hillary Clinton as a potential threat from within. Her picture appeared alongside the photos of whistleblowers Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning in a slide from a training class that was widely circulated online

39:19 RT's Caleb Maupin took to the streets of Washington to ask Americans if they agree with the threat assessment. Oh, not a man on the street bit! Come on Rt you're better than that. Insider threat? A disgruntled or careless employee? Obama. Do you think? I think Clinton and why do you think that because she's a liar America And your right So they listed, you know the guy who shot up the boards. Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden... Others? Who do you think that they put there? Hillary Clinton. You think it was Hillary? Well, she can't be trusted and everything she says lies She's Teflon Jane I mean everything she does is just falls off her back Do you trust Hillary Clinton? I love a guy with rednecks like Teflon Jane see the idea of redneck is that yeah use a t something Leon like Teflon Tiffany I don't know something like that you know that didn't quite work for him

40:23 That's pretty funny. Well, did you see Kimmel? No I'm not sorry Kimmel Fallon of course NBC Fallon had a very interesting performance on the show and i don't have the best recording of it but i do have enough and we stop whenever you want me It was truly one of the most pathetic things I've seen from an artist I generally respect for her work But the now Barbara Streisand is known that she hates performing live this woman does not like performing live So she's so hyped up. It's now her turn to go out She's also known by the way, she has a place up by where we are in Washington Every once in a while Mimi runs into either her or her husband I think and one time and she yeah tell that story

41:09 Well, there's a couple of stories. There's a bunch of stories because she's run into him a number of times but she ran into her the husband Brolin who apparently parades around this one store you know with his kind of his chin in the air looking around with their sunglasses on and looking very Hollywood-ish nobody recognizes In Port Angeles Washington? Well this is actually in Squim which is even more pathetic Don't you recognize me shopkeeper so at some point She bumped into him or something where she says to me he said something and he says to her To Mimi. Yes, and Mimi doesn't embellish these kinds of celebrity stories because she knows plenty of them and she said he says do you know who I am? A classic! And she says... She looked right straight in the face and she said to him Do you know who I am?! That kind of shorted him out like Kirk and the robot and he just shook a little bit and wandered off

42:09 But what is like confuse the celebrity. That's right, everybody. So she's best known as being an outrageous Democrat. Yes. Who threatened? She said I if George Bush gets reelected, I'm leaving the country. Actually she said when Bush got elected if George Bush gets elected, I'm leaving the country and if George Bush gets reelected, I'm leaving the country. Well, I guess if you live in a squim that's kind of it's kind of believe in the country close enough to go So she does not like performing live. And she, I don't know man... This had there's but i don't know how much Fallon has to do with his own show? I think Kimmel does a lot more on his show than Fallon Yeah, I think so too Because you know there's no way he would approve this it was pathetic! He does a song with her and he is dressed up like Trump First of all its a call back from a song from the 40s

43:09 Very, very sad to me. For someone who I really like for what she does...I liked her music, I'm a pussy that way except for that whole Gintel thing That didn't work for me but everything else with Barry Gibb come on can we nothing do be guilty? I sing all the best words when you hear me sing your gonna be blown away Oh! You mean like your hair in the windstorm It's all of this like we're making hair jokes throughout the whole thing because that's really funny Anything better than you know, yes I can Yes, I can. Yes, I can

43:56 Any wall you can build, I could build taller. I'm not building a wall! I could built any wall taller than you. Maybe Martin Short wrote this bit for them? This is old and tired... I don't know where they got this idea And it's all hair jokes to the very end. It's anything you- Hair shaming! You can't say that! Great! Wanna hear a little more? Yeah. No, you can't. She seems like she doesn't have her voice? No oh no well the first line was okay but then she knows I agree with you she didn't have her voice. No, you can't! Yes i can and i'm gonna get my skirt to pay for it don't count on it okay. You're going to deflate and i'll never be flat. I can build casinos and deport latinos. I can vote for Hillary. She's going to lose. No, she's going to win and she's gonna win huge

44:53 Hey, you stole my line. That is really really low are you talking about me or your latest poll numbers? You can say soft I can say anything softer than you yes, I guess Yes, I can You're right That's his hair that's growling apparently.

45:38 Well, you really are a prima donna. No! You're a prima DONALD! Oh ho ho... Wanna be my new campaign manager? Uh no way Jose. Jose?! Where is he get him out of here please I'm gonna tweet this i'll-i'll be right back What am I doing? There ya go Sad to me Yeah well it was lame I mean what is the audience for that show are they really that old Nobody heard this one before im sure That's true Sounds familiar OH Just on the just kind of wrapping up the the political part here well before you I did one more clip. Oh, I'm sorry Yeah, I got a clip to go ahead what you got this is the Again from RT. This is their bashing and they're in a mood

46:25 This is they brought this guy dr. Doom on the doctor this Sophie and company I never rarely watched the show and dr. Doom whose name I could just kind of elude him, but he's a very famous I think always have I think I've played a clip from that guy at one point haven't yeah He's a character Yeah And he's a base of stock market predictor and he's living in Thailand agories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you're talking But he's not the same guy you I think you're thinking of somebody else. But this guy is actually named Dr. Duhem and he's got some other name, but Sophie asked him about the Clinton thing and this guy...I thought this was very funny. Now what Ms. Clinton is saying she said that if she's elected she will put her husband former president Bill Clinton in charge of the US economy to revitalize the US economy now He oversaw a period of economic growth in the U.S. in the 90s

47:13 Can he be entrusted with the American economy once again? He will revitalize corruption in America. The Clinton family is involved in so many scandals, that's what is going to happen. There will be massive and increased crony capitalism The US always accuses other country of corruption, of crony capitalism. But in America it's even more extreme! Yes... It was funnier than the game you played. Oh much better I came across a view and some of these new emails that have come out as i continue to kind of scour them and there was a big meeting with Victor Pinchuk

48:05 And, you know it was one of these meetings that she declined, declined, declined and then it came through the foundation and then she took the meeting. And Viktor Pinchuk if I'm saying this...if I'm pronouncing that correctly is a Ukrainian businessman and philanthropist and he's like a 1.5 to 2 billion dollar type guy. This was all before Maidan happened And that by itself, okay. You know that the Clintons were involved somehow you know with and he also has a let me see he has I think he has something to do with, or he has an Interpipe group. There you go. So he has a international investing project funding financial advisory company and then Interpipe which is one of the leading pipe wheel and steel producers. And what i found interesting is not so much that she took that meeting but the deal that had been done with his wife with Victor Pinchuk's wife and her name is Elena Pinchuk

49:06 And she started, and this is all before the Maidan and everything in Ukraine happened. She started the Ilyina Pinchuk Anti-AIDS Foundation. And we know that all of the Clinton Global... All the Clinton Foundation's money including the HIV AIDS foundation which was not even a legal foundation at its founding end, at its funding. So they announced then after that a $2.5 million commitment from the Clinton HIV-AIDS initiative with her anti AIDS foundation, which is purely to raise awareness

49:47 So that's a payoff of some form. Yeah, for something. It's a fucking payoff these people are so brazen The whole thing is payoffs it's payoffs and bribes and... I have to- It just stuns me that people put don't nobody wants to see it that way I mean the media No but that's Is the media really blind to this or they just Well well I think I can answer that question Good yeah I'm gonna try Slate has a podcast which is generally annoying to listen to, generally. But they had a guest on today Adam Davidson I believe he is the guy who either started or co-founded Planet Money on NPR The Planet Money Guy

50:34 And they're talking, and believe me you don't need to listen to it. It's in the show notes at 855.noagendanotes.com You don't need to listen unless you want to be irritated but then a certain point the planet money guy goes into his experience with the Clinton Global Initiative. And I think, you know so this is a mainstream media guy and let's hear what he had to say when his guard was perhaps let down a little bit because it's a podcast... I've spent a decent amount of time at the Clinton Global Initiative. I sort of fell into this thing which What I'm about to say means, I'm probably going to fall out of this thing. But that had the by the way that caught my attention when he said that it's like oh really someone is going to say something interesting what am about to say means? I'm probably gonna fall out of this thing but i've been because I spent a lot of time reporting in Haiti they often ask me to moderate their big Haiti panel every year and

51:25 And to be clear, I don't make any money or anything like that. But I do go and moderate a panel at the Clinton Global Initiative and go to a few other sessions. And there is a real creepy vibe to me personally at the Clinton Global Initiative. It seems To me that it is all about buying access, you know It's incredibly expensive just to go to the thing. It's hundreds of thousands or a hundred something thousand dollars to Go and you meet all these people who are sort of selling their little private equity energy startup or whatever and there's sort of these explicit ways in which you get access, you pay more money to get more access to political leaders and two really rich people. There's this an end to big corporate leaders. There's this kind of creepy theater that happens where you have the CEO of Coca-Cola or IBM or whatever, GE up there with president Clinton. And they're just bathing each other in love over how generous and wonderful they are and how much they care about the world

52:22 And all these like earnest people applauding and thrilled and then you know every hour or so they parade, you know Angelina Jolie is hustled through a room and she doesn't stop her talk to anyone She's not like hanging out but you get to say that you were with Angelina Jolie that morning. It just feels like the worst version of An elite selling access to the aspirational to Creating this theater of doing good, but it's all about something else. It really feels gross I remember one year the opening night was opening night party was at The Metropolitan Museum of Art and

53:00 They literally like there was the second floor that was blocked off by Secret Service where Bill Clinton is standing, where you can see him with all the truly elite. And then the rest of us are staring up at them because we didn't pay enough money to get up there. Literally holding it above your head? Yeah. Given that given that Adam should they do what they said they're going to do after the election right now which is cut off Foreign donors now they and in my experience by the way just to reiterate Because I would be involved in kind of planning these panels is the Clinton global initiative Which is separate from the Clinton Foundation related but a separate staff a separate office at least it used to be They would really want like a good event like with controversy and actually, you know they

53:45 The reason they came to me is because I you know have produced radio shows and they wanted like to create a good hour of conversation where people disagree and then the Clinton Foundation typically would come in and say no, no No You need to do it this way where it's just a bunch of people congratulating each other on how awesome they are And here's a head of state of a foreign government who needs to be on that panel even though they have literally nothing to say, but we promised him a slot. Yes it's disgusting if you are planning for 12 years to run for president or 16 years, whatever it is. Don't set up a foundation where you're beholden to scumbags from other countries like yeah that's ridiculous and if your secretary of state tell your husband not to do business with them and there's this like second tier meme which some people have been like the Clinton Foundation does so much good around the world

54:36 I feel fairly confident it is not in the top tier. If you talk to development professionals, it's not in the top tier. I have seen their work in Haiti up close and person. There are some very good people who work there but they are... Haiti is one of their singular focuses. It's a very small country. They have not had any major impact on Haiti. It's more about performance than public charity. Not actual intervention in deep and meaningful ways There you go. Mainstream really lets it out! Holy crap! Yeah... That's Clip of the Day I'll take it, thank you.

55:17 Wow. Yeah, and you know I've spoken to my former near by the way stop I'm gonna give you a little kudos for this I think you're dead right the guy was thinking it's I'm on a podcast I can be free talk freely Oh yeah big mistake I would avoid hot tubs canoes and small aviation aircraft Yeah is not a good idea Yeah, the high was had the blooming and long go podcasting people letting their guard down. That's fantastic You should have heard them doing the Harry's razor commercial together that was actually pretty funny some stooges So there you go. This is the guy who's involved personally, I've heard the same thing from my former New York banker friend who ran a sovereign wealth fund or he ran the banking business for sovereign wealth funds that was his main sales opportunity. Oh yeah, we'd be there and spend quarter of a million for access so we could stand up wherever other people looking up at him. He was up there with the elites

56:12 His bank would pay for that, obviously. I like the symbolism. Of course! And they trot Angelina Jolie out for a moment... Let me tell you. But i was just thinking about this earlier because I saw some pictures of some stuff- By the way can you put that clip aside? I want to bring it back into the conversation sometime in future. Yeah, of course. I was thinking of this in relation to a minor scandal surrounding Leonardo DiCaprio He has, which actually funny enough I got the story from my New York banker friend who sent me this story and he said you know we should get a DAF of our own. What's a DAF? So read the story. Leonardo DiCaprio has a foundation and it was the Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation but then it kind of turned into not a non-profit but what is known as a donor advised fund

57:15 which is great. And then the donors help you, advise you on the fund and then they give some money to some community charity But if you look at the fundraiser, which coincidentally this whole story broke that there was bad Malaysian money. There's money laundering going through this thing is all kinds of crazy stuff and he's backed out of fundraisers for Hillary because he was toxic right now but I look at the pictures it funny enough The week after I wasn't in the south of France He had a fundraiser for his first donor advised fund man. This is a beautiful vehicle We got to get one of these John

57:52 And there's all these supermodels and including a downed our cruise with their doubts of Cruz Cruz doubt whatever the Dutch girl famous model And there are all these models hanging out and I need to remind people that many of these agencies, like I'll just say Wilhelmina Agency and some of these other ones. They really are pimps! They get paid to bring women into parties with elite douchebags and they ham it up and take pictures...and i'm sure more may be going on It's really quite disgusting and I am pretty sure this happens at the Clinton Foundation CGI in New York All of its so icky

58:34 Didn't surprise me. Yeah I have one. I'm shocked yeah, I know Horing is going on all right well it's sad it said it said here's Trey Gowdy He's he still mad Trey Gowdy of course is the lawyer Republican whose you know been kind of lead along with Shafetz in? Blue blew the Benghazi hearings. Yes, yeah my opinion yes My takeaway was this remember James Comey said she was not indicted because he didn't have sufficient evidence on the issue of intent I didn't see any questions on the issue of intent

59:09 There's no question she handled them negligently or extremely carelessly. He said he didn't go forward with charges because she didn't have specific criminal intent I didn't see any questions on that She says she did it for convenience, but but but I didn't see the follow-up questions in the interview I read Alright, so as an attorney what kind of questions would you have asked? You say there were no questions that went to the issue of whether or not she had intent. What would you have asked? Well there are two ways to do it one is circumstantial evidence and the other is direct evidence The direct evidence would be Madam Secretary why did you set up this email server this way Why did you not take a state dot gov email address And her response was...and always has been convenience

59:49 And then that's when you press and say, well what could be more convenient than just doing a state.gov email address? The labyrinthine effort that you made to create this separate server... That's what's inconvenient! I would then ask why did you delete emails? Yeah, that's a great point This I had not heard of that you know she of course. She's this is a PR talking point We say well without her convenience everybody yeah, I got my personal emails into my work mails it had pain in the ass But it's not the same as setting up a gmail when you set up your own server to deal with an IT guy That's not convenient oh, yeah, I think he makes a very valid point here um

1:00:28 It's of 2014, a year and half after she left the State Department that she decided to start deleting emails. Why didn't you delete them the month you left? Why didn't you delete them six months after he left? And the other question they should have asked her is, Madam Secretary why didn't you turn your emails over the day you left service? You got to leave it there I'm so sorry. Why don't you hold on for almost two years? Get him off! We're out of time Congressman thank you we will be right back Yes ma'am

1:01:07 Stop. We're out of time, I'm sorry we're out of time you gotta go. You're on a roll! The only other clip i have which came kind of as no surprise and I don't think it got a lot of media attention at all...we're always wondering what people do with their campaign funds they've raised after they lose now there's many who have no more money left and have debts that's a bad day I have to presume that the Bernie Sanders movement, uh...that maybe there was some money left. What do you think? I would assume he raised a lot of money Yeah well i think he's figured out what to do with it Tonight I want to introduce you To a new independent non-profit organization called Our Revolution

1:02:00 Which is inspired by the historic Bernie 2016. Inspired, inspired... It's funded you mean? Is funded by it. Which is inspired by the historic- That's a great choice of words! It's inspired. Nooo! ...is inspired by the historic Bernie 2016 presidential campaign Over time our revolution will involve hundreds of thousands of people These are people who will be fighting at the grassroots level for changes in their local school boards in their city councils in their state legislatures and In their representation in Washington, and what's interesting about this? Nonprofit is it as a 501k

1:02:50 uh, for C non-profit. Which means it's a lobbying organization. Your donations are not tax deductible. That's where the money went and if you look at our revolution.com which is another just a little minor hint that it's not all do good or stuff because .com and not dot org, but you'll see... Well yeah, thats minor Yeah well you'll see they have a whole page called Our Candidates And it's all these candidates in, let's see. Well every state they've got a candidate so it's a lobbying organization and legally it's a lobbying organization. Yeah you gotta do something with the money I know but there is no way to give back to people that could have been really track it though nobody does that yeah I mean they think the Clintons did the best job of it they just have this fund you know this slush fund its way

1:03:52 Well, I got a kind of a throat well actually my clip later. I think we're running well in that case Let me thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you John see when the C stands for cooter Dvorak Cooter yeah, I liked the word I heard it the other day. I thought I'd use it for you It was a cooter as with the d or a T with a tea oh Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning all ships and sea... I was doing a cooter with the tea! Well in the morning to you Adam Curry, also in the morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs into water. Yeah! And all the kings and knights out there That's right In the morning chat room

1:04:33 Chat room's got it figured out. Hey everybody, thank you for tuning in to noagendastream.com Good to have you guys here In the morning to Jay Moon! Jay Moon is an artist who uploaded his work to noagendaartgenerator.com And he brought us the artwork for episode 854 That was pre-medicated and that was The Nun on the Beach Hot nun on the beach with her surfboard Of course that would be a callback to the Burkini controversy And we look forward to all the submissions at noagendaartgenerator.com Thank you very much, Jay Moon Alright well we got a few donors of executive producers associate executive producers and people in between So let's start off with Joseph Castine in McDonough Georgia

1:05:19 Now George Axson's slightly different. That's not it. No, that's not it at all! $500. The George Axson is the one that's the most genteel. It's the best. I do declare we've got Joseph Kasteen coming in with a donation. 500 bucks long-time boner he says since episode 1. He has never contributed. So these... I wonder what made him change his mind about the value? But he wants to get a de-douching I'll do that. You've been de-douche'd! Alright, he's de-douched. He wants to give everybody a karma. Jobs Karma! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you got karma. And he's got it! Moreno Valley California comes 360 bucks from an anonymous

1:06:12 Donor mm-hmm who also seems to be circumference for the night of the roundtable of the best produced podcasts in the universe All right, he's been donating says 2014. Thanks for all you do it this donation brings me to knighthood Oh, oh, he'd like to be known as circumference. I didn't realize which is a good name Yes It's not on the list though really no well it will be now okay a night of the Round Table yeah, they just circumference okay Okay, so anonymous becomes circumference Yeah So forget the anonymous part sir Dwayne Melancon our Archduke of the Pacific Northwest In Thai Guard Oregon three four five six seven he becomes our third executive producer after a shortfall last show Thanks for the Los Angeles flood Louisiana flood coverage

1:07:07 I grew up in Baton Rouge and my mom got flooded out of her home near Lafayette. Total demo required." Oh man... That's terrible! Yeah, that sucks. She says this is not a flood zone. No. Karma to all the flooded ones and all knights. You've got karma. Special karma for me too man definitely Jared Meisner in Bellevue, Washington becomes our fourth executive producer and last for show three. What is it? Three forty five 355, 458. 855 you're talking about. You got confused? Well you confuse me! In the morning Crockpot and Buzzkill I wanted to thank you guys for the excellent detailed media deconstruction that you continued to do so well it's not just a media coverage that keeps me listening though you guys have me literally laughing out loud every show too i'd like it if you guys would throw out a global douchebag call out from me to anyone who has listened

1:08:11 to more than two or three shows and has not donated yet. This is the best media coverage out there, people! And it's totally worth at the very least a small monthly donation as an executive producer for this show I was hoping you guys could also give a quick congratulations call-out to my best friend Chuck Kendrick of The White Rock BC Canada He's the one that turned me on to shows originally and we believe he is pretty far on his way to knighthood as well. Trump Hillary jobs That's Trump Pelosi jobs. We don't have it with Hillary yes, it's trumple is he's confused He just put Hilary there because it was on his mind because the mainstream media keeps pumping her name Yeah followed by Obama's we we can't con sit constantly demonize each other I don't know if that's available as a nice. Oh, I'll look for it yep

1:09:07 And finishing up with the shut-up slave clip as a congratulations to him from you guys and of course for me as well if you want to finish up with it some karma that would be great too. Alright, alright Jared we'll do that right now Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Let's vote for jobs! The democracy doesn't work if we constantly demonize each other Shut Up! You've got Karma I'll go figure Worked nailed it Jason Miller in oh, I'm sorry. Sorry Tim anonymous came in with two three four five six and all he does is he sends a check? He puts a big post-it note right on the checked says his name to anonymous And you can't make a mistake That's the way if you really really really don't want to get mentioned this is yes That's how you do it does he wants and karma

1:10:05 He didn't say anything, he just was... blow checking it. I'm giving it to him. You've got karma He might be a grumpy old guy going, man. Here's your check. It's an envelope slaps it down there. You know the funny thing is about the envelopes the envelopes of checks can individual checks him in and you can if there's a big whopper into a big check that doesn't you know this is a big check but I'm talking like one of those like from clearing publishers Clearinghouse Big Check like a big cardboard check $1,000 check on instant night check out uh it's always scotch taped Oh, you mean like it's been opened and sealed again by the... No. It was when the guy put it together he got paranoid because there is a big check and so he scotch taped it. Yeah? So when I go through that man now this of course won't work anymore because the jokers out there that listen to this show are gonna just scotch tape everything in it have nothing inside yeah like here's your one penny check Dvorak hahaha

1:11:03 But that'll end and they go back to normal. Jason Miller, meanwhile came in with $213.75 from Millersburg the town named after him in Ohio. Jason Miller's town is Millersburg. Really? In the, well. Oh okay. That's the way I got someone to call it. Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize-I thought that was in The Note and like oh cool he's got a town nice. That's where i'm going! It's 855 quarters is what he did here this is nice I didn't realize that's a very good donation amount Yes in the morning please accept this donation amount of $213.75 8 5 5 quarters that's a good idea now we get just like a show club You know what? I'm gonna put him in the in the club

1:11:44 Are we at this point, now we've made a decision? That quarters I think is not a bad idea. I think it's a pretty good idea do the quarters club that also sounds good hold on Okay, he's in the quarters club. We just saw the show works yeah we meeting it meeting adjourned Please accept to help fund your ongoing efforts to bring sanity to us all I'm a minute mennonite firefighter from the heart of Amish country Ohio right on which I am guessing puts me and pretty small group of listeners Yes, you're right Yeah with those for how about how about a meetup over there?

1:12:24 Hey, hey. I've been a short time listener around episode 760 the first-time donor so i'm requesting a deducing yeah you've been no particular jingle request But if possible, I'd like to request some value for value commerce for the small non-profit I helped start several years ago which provides technology and software to fire departments and other first responders. Oh yeah! He sent me a rather long... And it's open source? It is very beautiful project actually what he is doing We recently implemented a new software service using the value for value model, which costs us about $30,000 to make and so far have received only 2700. So we're in desperate need of karma." Adam your entire production is fantastic! Thanks to both of you for all your hard work and making this show possible. There's hoping that will get to listen at 855 more episodes of The Best Podcasts In The Universe Jason Miller in Millersburg. Yeah it's a cool project he has got going on I'll see if he has a URL but

1:13:21 They can tie in assets and information about any, because there's a lot of volunteer fire departments still. And so they can figure out that they all connect to the central system. You know I should read the email again then i'll be able to explain it better but It hit me just on just reading like oh that's really cool A value for value open source software project. I like that a lot So here is your karma sir thank you very much Jason Miller. You've got karma This is an anonymous, although for some reason it's not marked as such on the spreadsheet. Just so you know been too long since my last donation? Yep Oh yeah and it puts it at the end wrong

1:13:59 Wrong, good catch. In Dublin Ohio Mr Anonymous who puts the request at the end which is not the way to do it you put a right in the beginning and caps. Yeah all caps. And too long since my last one because I looked at it and didn't see it keep up with great work in entertainment Give him a karma and he'll be fine. Yeah, of course! Karma interrupt us? Easy now. That concludes our listing of the Executive and Associate Executive Producers for show 855 Yes sir I do have one mention, let's see... Oops, forgot to put his name in my notes here

1:14:41 Well, it's a test anyway. So when it goes full blown will promote him for doing this You know we have we try to distribute this program through as many ways as possible We use bit torrent sync Now we were using Bitlove Because they had some I think you know this is Probably it was a great idea, but nothing really came of it of the bit love service and it goes up and down But what they do is they take your existing RSS feed? And they create a bit a torrent out of your mp3 and then you have a separate rss feed that is just for Torrance which is used quite a bit on our show but that Feed you know this not working properly so our producer set up with a domain name in RSS feed

1:15:28 at noagendatorrent.com How about that? That's dynamite! Very dynamite Right now it only has two in there so it's 853, 854 and of course hopefully today 855 will update The request is if everyone can please review it take a look see if it works If we need anything else and uh... And we'll feed that back on the show It's great So we have yet another distribution mechanism Of the best podcast in the universe I like to mention people says we did get a response with additional donations because we actually have our own. We do not use pod bean. That's your go-to name, Pod Bean.

1:16:12 Codbean and JokerNet, and some of these other crazy ways that you... JokerNet? You pay them a bunch of money. And then eventually run out of bandwidth. Of course these operations are all pretty much the same. You run out of the bandwidth instead of them fronting you saying I will let it slide. No no no! You're done. This guy's out of bandwidth, he didn't pay enough money. And so you don't get to download anything." I mean it's just unbelievable to me the way these things operate and there is no personalization... You look at Podbean by the way they have a million podcasts that are you can find on there and it's like okay that's great maybe we have developed

1:16:57 with great expertise. Luckily, we do have some of the smartest guys in the world. Void Zero Mountain Vortex Yes Yeah those guys are outrageous and so they can work with some other people that maybe pick up some extra bandwidth because we know how to do that yeah and then you know how to make these sort of connections and make it work but its a complicated system is not something I'm not sure nothing to do this is Adam's side of the business which is why the two of us work so well together, because we have complementary skills. And we just do what we have to do to make sure that this thing stays on the air in any way it can because there's moments... If you're for example was one of these podcast distributing companies and somebody says hey cut these guys off? You'd be done! It would take us weeks to get back on track and lose listeners.

1:17:51 But you know really the thing that's interesting about podcasting which was not really anticipated And it was really created for a different reason because these days everything is so fast You can pretty much, you know click and play but when you use a podcast app Which of course if people use the podcast app there's many other good ones for iOS and Android. All I will say be look at the numbers its iPhones have the biggest make the biggest use of the RSS feed You have to imagine that there's... we don't really know how many people download the show or listen to the show. It could be 4,000 40,000 400,000 but when I release the show okay just imagine we have a hose and this hose can fit you know X amount of water through it but then let's just say these four thousand forty thousand or four hundred thousand all at the same time go oh there's new show i'm going to download it now

1:18:45 And you have no control on our end over when the download starts. So pretty much these things are always looking for a new episode, boom there's new episode and so just imagine every, you know like the city of Los Angeles trying to drink through a garden hose now these guys have figured out how to make that pretty seamless and it does work with bursting and I don't know but it's all our stuff. Yeah it's all our stuff! And I think we do it very well. I think we do as well as anyone I think we do it as well as you can yeah for a couple of dudes Yeah, or just a couple of dudes with some over the microphone. We rely on our own infrastructure completely Yeah, and we're not using pod bean

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1:20:34 So I was watching C-SPAN and they had Jeffrey Toobin on. Jeffrey Toobin is a writer, Democrat. And he just did a book on... He's out pushing his book on Patty Hearst, the old Patty Hearst story. Really? Why is he doing that? I have no idea. That's odd. Whatever they got, I don't know if it's gonna be a big seller but he's got some new stories. But they went on because he went... Out of the blue he says well you know I think Al Gore won The election in 2000, things would be a little bit... For some reason he used it as a backup for something he was discussing. And I don't know what happened to the... Somebody said put a bug in the interviewer's ear or something and said hey play this clip so he sees what Toobin thinks So this is the recount story that you know to be honest about

1:21:23 I thought i knew most of this stuff but, I don't remember this. I think it was kept away...I think the information was kept away from the public because I think they meme that Al Gore really won the election so he can come out and promote his global warming thing and walk on the stage and say hi I'm your president that got gypped. Yeah whatever you said. He got gypped This is the clip. This is the recount one recount story one Remind us what? The Miami Herald concluded about the Florida election sure well I'll tell you what we did first of all as after the US Supreme Court decided that there would be no full-scale recount Of the vote in, Florida We decided that we should

1:22:11 determine for history's sake what were the real results. And so we did our own recount, we went to every one of the 67 counties in Florida and obtained all the ballots and we were able to do that under the really expansive public records law of Florida which is really wonderful. So we obtained all the ballots, we went with a accounting firm BDO Seidman at the time and they did their count and we did our counts as journalists And we went through every single ballot, and we had the supervisor of elections actually hold up the ballot. And we recorded whether that — how that ballot was voted. Yeah, there was the hanging chads. We all saw that right? The hanging chads. And whether that ballot could be counted as a vote. Yeah, were taken into account. OK, gotcha. ...was voted and whether that ballot could in fact be counted because in some instances the ballots were marked in a way that couldn't possibly be counted

1:23:02 And, as you may recall, there were different standards. So the question is how do you judge the so-called hanging chad? If you had ballots that were punctured in some way, if a little piece of paper was sort of hanging on, did you count that or did you not count that? We looked at the vote under various standards and we determined that George Bush actually won that election in Florida. Really! Yeah, you've never heard this story either have you? No. Not at all! This is Marty Baron they had the editor-in-chief of the Miami Herald and Miami Herald's a reasonably very well respected newspaper and they brought in an accounting firm and I don't know how long but they went through every single ballot to determine Bush won nobody plays this story because it's not in the narrative that want you to hear. Gore was robbed yes he was robbed So now two been sitting there being interviewed by different guy this is an old clip

1:23:57 And Toobin has to jump in with his little well, and then when you listen to the players with his well they did somebody else did this and they found it. Gore won so play this part here and then let's just take one more look at what he has to say If I can just add one more point. Certainly The Miami Herald did their own recount later the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago did a different even more comprehensive recount sponsored by a consortium of news media organizations including The New York Times and Washington Post that reached... Was that not true?

1:24:39 No, they did but it was this whole thing was rigged. It was a Chicago operation the National Research Council whatever it is out of the University of Chicago in is run by a Democrat always has been the New York Times a Democrat front. Yeah, The Washington Post outrageous promoters to the Denver this is bullcrap yeah sponsored by a consortium of news media organizations including The New York Times and the Washington Post that reached us somewhat different conclusion that That said if the whole state had been recounted Gore would have won. Now if only the four counties Gore sought to have recounted, Bush would've won. And that was a tactical mistake by Al Gore? It was certainly a tactical mistake to call for only a 4-counties of recount but I think the broader issue is this what we know for sure is that the Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore ended the recounts

1:25:41 Now, this is none... I mean okay. The New York Times and the Washington Post which were all in for Gore and I think both papers recommended him they came up with this scheme to like debunk a very thorough recount of the entire state of Florida even though Tubin kind of makes it sound like he only did these four counties which isn't true The entire state of Florida came up with the answer that Bush won, and that was that. And they were probably as good as... You couldn't probably do any better than they did and so they took a bunch of standards into account and still came up with Bush. The big papers said they didn't like that meme and they killed it! They killed the meme!

1:26:26 and made the meme, Gore won. And that's what everybody still kind of uses as a standard. Oh, Gore probably won. Gore won Florida. The Supreme Court butted in. Well no it goes like this... Jeb Bush was the governor of the state and rigged it all so his brother could win! Yeah, if you want to take it to the extreme. That is the meme! Come on that's the meme. That's how I hear it all the time So this a meme that is floating around and... I just thought this story was interesting. I didn't know either. Actually I had written something down for us to talk about. Boy show prep This another meme slash theory that is going around in lot of them now starting to creep more into the mainstream

1:27:14 And after the hiring of the Bannon-Banyon guy from Breitbart, and of course Roger Ailes being fired from Fox and friendly with Trump. I hear this from people who are very serious about it The word is, oh no no. This Trump is not really trying to win he's just getting set up to start his new media empire It's going to be Trump TV and it's gonna have...it's gonna be out foxing Fox and that's really what this is all about Yeah I've heard this It's crazy

1:27:52 Yeah, I mean what? I want you. I'm gonna ask this happened. I've seen this every so often they this was the same situation with when George Bush was president they kept Flip-flopping on is George George Bush as an evil genius or George Bush's a dumb Dummy he's either a big dummy or an evil genius would now let's say the same thing about his Trump You know Trump's a big dumb racist Or is he a genius? A genius media guy. Make up your minds! Yeah, that is good He's gonna start a media company this was his plan all along That's what his plan was that's what it was going to do Wow this guy's a genius genius unbelievable thinker Three shows ago on I think the 18th or 19th we played a clip

1:28:43 by a man who I initially, I was going to offer up a spot on our stream with his undoubtedly podcast career which is about to follow and that is Dr. Drew. Actually, I want to play that clip again because you know the clip of him commenting on Hillary Clinton's health report has been removed from HLN as has his show. Oh yeah, the transcript is still there. I know the show was removed but... Yeah no the video has been removed The transcript is still out there This is CNN's operation again and I just don't- I think I mentioned this in the Liena report oh no I didn't What is the deal with these guys?

1:29:25 So here I have some official, let me see this is from well this is Deadline Hollywood which has really kind of the dirt rag but they have most of their facts straight. Days after CNN's Ashley Banningfield announced on air she's moving to HLN in the fall, HLN quietly confirmed Dr. Drupinski's program will end next month though he will remain a contributor for CNN worldwide which is kind of like BBC Worldwide you know? Nah it's like It's shortwave radio territory. No one cares about CNN worldwide now when we heard him comment on Hillary Clinton's health report, we said like wow man stay away from canoes and hot tubs and small aviation this is not a very good stance for you to take

1:30:10 And he did it, and I think was although flawed for numerous pharmaceutical reasons that our audience responded to rather strongly. Yeah because the guy's a doctor! He's a shill for brands and doesn't want to recommend generics but here's the disappointing thing so after he did this and apparently got fired for it there's just no other...I mean you can't see any other way Like, like HLN really has ratings. What's the difference between .2 and .25? It's not gonna make any difference in your sales." But he released this statement earlier tonight I mistakenly raised an anonymously sourced report about Hillary Clinton's health

1:30:52 By doing so, I violated HLN and CNN's editorial standards and was wrong to have mentioned the unsubstantiated report. I regret... Wait hold on a second! Let me finish. I regret the error and will make sure in future to apply the rigorous editorial standards we have in place here. I apologize to our viewers and Secretary Clinton for falling short tonight This was not an anonymously sourced report. No, he looked at her medical records and then made some commentary right? Well what did we miss it was that was this medical report I thought it was part of where did it show up

1:31:33 She had, it was the one thing that... It was the medical record that was released. There was a released medical record by this one guy who's her long-term doctor and according to him he looked at it and then he said well this is interesting and she shouldn't be taking that she shouldn't have taken this And then I think their anonymous thing may have been from those glasses Those brain damaged glasses that she was wearing for awhile with the Fresnel lens in it Maybe that was what he's referring to here in this little note? I'm baffled by this. So am i! No, this is the report that was released by her own doctor...I'm looking at it right now

1:32:22 This letter summarizes the health history and current medical evaluation of Hillary Rodham Clinton. This is the Mount Kisco New York lady, in fact Dr Drew refers to that. Then he mentions found to have transverse sinus venomous thrombosis... this is the note let me just see what the talking points memo says Clinton releases medical records. So this was a release by Hillary Clinton herself as far as I understand it." Yes, yes! So i don't understand how he can make the statement... This is a very interesting 1984 style lie You know why though? Here it is if you look at- there was another set of so called medical records that came out that were got by some guy's dad who took a picture and Snopes of course says its false, right? This is hoax nothing true

1:33:08 Now, that is out there but it doesn't say any of the things that are in this official medical record that Clinton herself released. So why he is compelled to say oh this was uh what his exact words here? Anonymous sourced gossip or something. Hold on I got it here... Yes, I violated a...I mistakenly raised an anonymously sourced report about Hillary Clinton's health. No! I'm looking at the memo that was released by her July somewhere...July 31st 2015 It's a year ago

1:33:49 All right, you had to play the... Yeah I'm gonna play it again. I just called a friend of mine Dr Robert Heisinger who's an excellent internist pulmonologist and we just dispassionately sat and evaluated the medical record that she had released And based on the information that she has provided her doctors have provided We were gravely concerned not just about our health care not about her health but her healthcare Why? Well, it's hard for people to understand. Both of us concluded that if we were providing the care that she was receiving we'd be ashamed to show up in a doctor's lounge and would be laughed out at. She is receiving sort-of 1950 level sort of care by our evaluation. So we took a look at her record and here are the basic facts. She had two episodes of what is called deep venous thrombosis.

1:34:34 Common problem blood clots in the leg she also has hypothyroidism and she'd been treated for hyperthyroidism with something called armor thyroid Which is very unconventional and something that we used to use back in the 60s And both he and I went hmm. That's weird, and by the way Wow Armor thyroid sometimes has some weird side effects oh well okay? So she goes on Coumadin that's weird Because coumadin really isn't even used anymore now We use eloquence or serralto things like this certainly the company presidential candidate would get one of the newer anticoagulants, then she falls and hits her head. And the complication of that has something called a transverse sinus thrombosis. This is an exceedingly rare clot. I've only seen one of these in my career which is a clot in the collecting system for the cerebral spinal fluid. It essentially guarantees that somebody has something wrong with their coagulation system

1:35:28 well she's had two clots, a transverse sinus thrombosis. What's wrong with her coagulation system? Has that been evaluated and oh by the way armor thyroid associated rarely with hypercoagulability so the very medicine the doctors are using may be causing this problem and they're using old-fashioned medicine to treat it what is going on with her health care it's bizarre i got a little maybe they have reasons but at this time to look for the star that there are some sort of standard for people who are going to leave the country or to be making these important decisions this again hillary may be fine with all of us committed it dangerous and concerning but uh... you can see and by the way when she turned two other things agree with concern does which he had her head she had to wear these

1:36:10 prism class when she came out that is brain damage and so that's affecting her balance it now clearly has an effect of recognition but tell us a little more about that. That's profound, and then number two when they screened her for heart disease again they did an old-fashioned screen it just seems like she was getting care from somebody that she met in Arkansas when she was a kid! And I just You gotta wonder, you gotta wonder. It's not so much that her health is a grave concern it's that the care she's getting couldn't make it a concern." Everything I hear in that clip is him referring to this report from over the years. Him and his friend! There are two people involved here. Well but he's not a TV doctor... No. How about this? There was an element of slander in that report The Goldwater Rule

1:37:02 No, no not the Goldwater rule. This is different because he's now slandering... He's not slandering Hillary, he's slandering the doctor! Right right right And there could be an element where there was something There may have been an element there that forced him. That's the real reason they had to get take him off the air because now they got some legal issue going on. That's possible, that would be the way it would be a typical way to fight back. Yeah but for him he makes an apology for something that didn't happen. That's what odd is for him to say well this was you know yeah unconfirmed and obviously written by PR or the legal department said here sign this poor guy

1:37:45 Yeah, all he was doing it was actually his job. Give me some insight Well I've talked to Voidz here on Mountain Vortex and we have a spot on the stream for him for his podcast Because that's about all he's gonna be doing from now on It's sad because i like the guy! I think he's pretty good. I like what he does And that was...that was a nice piece He could come over to our side you know? He could do it Drew could do it yeah, and I think he could sustain Sustained self himself along with his you know celebrity clinics and all that he had a pretty I think he had A pretty sweet deal going on. It's probably irks He's gonna go in the penalty box for awhile who popped back up. He's a very good TV presenter well We'll see we'll see if how he recovers from this will keep our eye, but again that offer is open to dr.. Drew

1:38:35 The welcoming letter to the incoming class of 2020 at University of Chicago. You may have heard about this? Yeah, everyone's making a big deal about this as though it's something important Yes, that's right. And by the way I don't think they can sustain it here is the problem... Not everyone has read it not everyone has heard of it. Okay why don't you give us a background? Well a little piece of this welcoming note that I have here our commitment to academic freedom means we do not support so-called trigger warnings We do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial. And we do not condone the creation of intellectual safe spaces where individuals can retreat from ideas and perspectives at odds with their own." That is a nice stance in today's bullcrap world. I like it, I think its fantastic! And ill tell you why something happened to Tina and I

1:39:32 Friday night, which was I think not we're not exactly sure but III think it was part of the sickness You know UT is here. This is a college town University of Texas right? We're a college party town to really when you think about yes old six. Yeah Oh yeah dirty six baby So we're gonna go get some food and we're walking Right next side to this big parking lot which is in front of my building And on the, you know it's a sidewalk where you can walk comfortably side by side. You could even probably fit three people on it side-by-side just walking next to each other On one side is the street Guadalupe very busy street certainly around 6 o'clock 630 excuse me and the other side this parking lot which was actually meant to be demolished so if you want get off the sidewalk then have to walk grass and its rocks and not nice

1:40:23 So we're walking and we're coming up on a young woman in front of us who's probably five feet tall. And she's walking on the left-hand side, and we're just walking... We're talking about her day etc., as we're ready to pass her she moves over to the middle and starts to slow her walk And you know, Tina and I were just talking at this point like wow this is really odd. So yeah like okay we want to just pass her on the left and so at this point i have Tina's hand i'm kind of like steering like let's just get around this as we're starting to pass her on the left she starts to move to the left and then she says

1:41:04 You know, we all have insecurities and you know when you have insecurities you can send signals about this. And it's really microaggression and uh... you obviously don't have the problems I have with height And now the dispute is how old she was. I think she could be postgraduate, looked to me like she was someone who was in academia and just had been completely confused by this idea of safe spaces and you can't trigger me. So we're walking, so really interesting? She says yes. She tries to go into this long thing about how she felt unsafe that I was coming up behind her

1:41:47 and because of my height, and you know that she should be I should have been aware of her insecurity of her height. And now like yeah, you don't know me said My first wife was five foot three what are you talking about? And they just Oh deflecting yes deflecting Well that's very typical You do that and then it just devolves into this way now it gets better and she looks at Tina and says well you're obviously the pretentious one hold on a second And she looks stop and stop that is the punchline to this it turned out to be Janine Garofalo. Oh, man I wish this No But now I'm seeing someone who's very very ill and has been convinced that I need to acknowledge her Vertical challenge as if and I said babe you know how many times? I hit my head on things and split it open and

1:42:40 deflecting. Deflecting, exactly exactly and then she says well you know, but this is your broadcasting. I could feel your insecurity and my insecurity." I said to her, wait a minute so your insecurity went over and blocked me from walking on the sidewalk? And she's like, You're a dick! That's what... you're just a dick!" I'm like all right i just want the record to show that whatever shorty you started with the name calling it was disturbed by it. This didn't seem like a crack person, this didn't... You wandered into an insane person who has been brainwashed by the system into this craziness, this crazy woman. She's going to be in... Yeah. This is truly my analysis of what happened, is that she has been

1:43:31 Just brainwashed with this idea that you know whatever your shortcomings are everyone needs to acknowledge it respect it and hold it in the highest regards and make sure that they don't offend you I was Bizarre, oh glad you got that off your chest well. I thought it was a To me It was an experience that I had not witnessed yet And I've never had that happen to me am I immediate take away aware of You don't get out of the house is what you're trying to say. Stop, not aware! Not aware... Well talking about let's talk about politically incorrect for a moment although in this case I thought it was kind of funny John McCain is being opposed by number people for his senator seat and one of them is Kelly Ward

1:44:22 You know, we're always on the lookout for all kinds of isms. Ageism was a good one in this clip. You've had some tough words on John McCain if you don't win the primary are you going to support him in the general? I probably will see but I don't plan to lose that the primary or the general. I'm actually the only Republican that can win in the general election John McCain has fallen down on the job. He's gotten weak, he's gotten old I do want to wish him a happy birthday he is going to be 80 on Monday and i want to give him the best birthday present ever The gift of retirement So you think he is too old to serve in the Senate?

1:45:00 I think anybody who's been in Washington for almost 40 years has been there too long. But you brought up his age, that's a tough attack! Well, I mean i'm a physician and I see the physiological changes that happen in normal aging in patients again and again over the last 20-25 years so...I do know what happens to the body and mind. So your diagnosed? Do you feel comfortable diagnosing him on air like this? Diagnosing him as an 80 year old man? Yes I do Wow, see she can do that when you're a doctor then all sudden you can get away with it like that's just the ageism But she was throwing it around to boy. You know I'm a doctor Jim yeah, I like that wow That was bad Because everybody's different Yeah, of course guy me his mom is still alive if I'm not mistaken now really well She was when he ran for president holy crap

1:45:55 I didn't know, I didn't realize that. I mean he's one of those long-lived guys... The guy could probably live for another... He'll be into his 90s before he drops Oh maybe yeah, maybe a lot older than that Easy Meanwhile other people in their 80s can barely you know they're drooling Big article this morning in the Dutch newspapers Let me just see who the officials are who actually said this TT, TTIP is dead This is the the US-EU trade agreement that is supposed to follow on the TPP, and according to the Dutch officials this thing is as good as dead. No one... Well said no when the talks keep getting cancelled there's no more negotiations they feel that all negotiations with the U.S have pretty much failed I'm translating in real time even though no one wants to actually admit it

1:46:56 So, this was a...oh wait. The politicians are more positive about the CETA. This is... Yeah. This is the Canadian-Candanavian EU trade agreement so it's Canada-EU Trade Agreement CETA so that seems they're gonna be focusing on that and looking at the the current legislature or the executive branch of Canada, I'm thinking Trudeau will go all in for that for the CETA. So yeah he's a media sellout everyone is doing everyone seems to be focusing on something else going on now as you mentioned that I was listening to a lot this week too Chinese material

1:47:38 Especially the talk shows they really give a lot of stuff away. Hey, they got their morning shows They go they got all kinds of stuff but I have a few things to play here There's the brexit thing this I got one two three clips from China China good a little a little China package This is the one that got that actually made me kind of tick take notice. This is, now you tell me as these guys talk what they're talking about because there's nothing I know about this is the grand scheme grand plan to be held between President Putin and his Chinese counterpart the host Mr Xi Jinping. Oh wait stop stop let me do a little background on it the G20 is meeting coming up pretty shortly in

1:48:28 Hangzhou, which is one of those monster cities in China. And the pronunciation is hang-jo even though when you look at it you go... Yeah there's a lot of H and G's and U's in it Yeah, I listen to listens. She's a bad Joe shit about Joe where you going with that gun in your hand? Hey Joe hang Joe Hang Joe So hang Joe is where they're having this and it's and they're fixing them gussing up the town the way The Chinese do and it's gonna be the G 20s two big boys That's all everybody shows up yeah And so they're having this meeting in hang Joe but that this is and they're gonna know they know that there's gonna be a meeting between the head of China and the header and Putin Putin and

1:49:09 And they're gonna, and this is what's... And that's kind of the background as to what they're discussing here. And you tell me what they're talking about. To be held between President Putin and his Chinese counterpart, the host Mr Xi Jinping What would be the major issues to be addressed? Well between China and Russia obviously The two countries have been getting closer and closer in terms of overall relationship on energy production and also export it to each other What is being expected is about further cooperation with the One Belt, One Road initiative by China and also the EEC basically from the Russian side. Somehow they will bring all countries – Russia, European countries and China, Central Europe together as a grand scheme. We don't know the details yet but I guess after the summit, you know after the meeting between two presidents probably we will get more

1:50:01 about the details of the grand plan, how will it be helpful to both sides and also to countries within this grand scheme? Okay. I really... It seems like there's a grand plan between Russia and China And the EU or the EEC which is a subset What do we know about this? Is this Thanks to the sanctions are we actually purposefully driving a chai? Yes Nixon administration all the Kissinger stuff that we were you did The idea was to keep those two apart away from each other. Oh, yeah, they're trading oil American policy Yeah, but they're doing oil deals not in dollars I might add

1:50:44 They're doing all kinds of stuff together. Why are we doing this? Why are we pushing those two together when it's always been the American policy until recently, until the Kagans came along and the Newlands came along and Hillary... why are we pushing them together because John, the idea was never to do that because we have always been at war with Eurasia so we're just causing trouble for ourselves No, I think it's dumb. I think it's dumbness... Dumbness from the... This is Valerie Jarrett! It's her call. It-it's all her idea You gotta blame somebody. We might as well blame her. Grand scheme, the grand plan... Okay well just on NBC I haven't heard it? No! I have a question for you about that- In fact they don't even talk about the G20 having a big meeting in Hangzhou. Hangzhou?! I got a question for you about Chinese TV when i was with my friend Michelle and France now you gotta understand the Brits the Dutch do this too if they have a holiday home which Michelle effectively has

1:51:46 They will order, you know he's in London so he ordered another Sky satellite box. You know it's a decoder box and it sold by Sky TV I think of course you get BBC and CNN but its a skybot what they do is take that with them put it on their vacation home so they can watch the BBC when there are no other country this very British thing. You could do that here? Of course! But On this skybox there's at least five different Chinese news channels and the observation we both had was, they...the news are completely portraying themselves with dress and how they speak because of course their English is perfect.

1:52:29 very, very British. Kind of like old school British that really styling themselves towards almost BBC really old-school BBC and it's interesting to watch because it seems like a pure kind of assimilation attempt and It's not just all bill oil China this China that is it's a bit like RT in that regard but they're really trying to fit into a lineup of British news Well, they don't even make that attempt here. Okay? I mean maybe...I haven't seen it. Okay so it's not the same stuff then. Maybe it's just the stuff they do for them! I don't know but I know this the Chinese are thinking of buying up to UK Let's play...this guy... They already own it?! Ask no Now this is a very funny little segment This CCN Brexit guy in the UK Yeah They talk about what

1:53:27 buying up the UK, now that it's cheap. And there was one guy who said well it's not really that cheap and they go back and forth but at the beginning of this clip, the Chinese guy asked... There is a Chinese guy host and there is a Chinese businessman from China and a Brit And the Chinese guy asked about, well is it a good time to start buying stuff in England? And the Chinese guy on the other side says like what's left to buy. So I thought that was kind of funny and that was kind of a quick hit but then they went and actually discussed it seriously. Let's listen. The opportunities for the Chinese investment have M&A in Britain

1:54:11 What is there to buy in Britain? I was leading a panel in our London office last week and they said, don't you think this is a great time to come and buy businesses in Britain because the pound's devalued. And I said well so's the EBITDA stream so tell me why it's a better time than it was before We don't know what Brexit's going to mean. I personally, when I look at it, I don't even know how Britain is going to get out of the EU. It's great to say that The vote's done and out is out, but you look at the difficulty they're going to have before they exercise under Article 50 how they're going to negotiate all these treaties. So I think it will lead to a slower economy in Great Britain, lower values that may turn around there is one of the common themes about Chinese investors is they have a longer term horizon and a lower

1:55:05 hurdle rate than other parts of the globe. I always hate stereotypes and generalization, but if you believe that's accurate maybe it is a good time to go by." Huh... well that's interesting in regard to what he said about Article 50 the Telegraph in the UK is reporting that Theresa May will not hold a parliamentary vote before triggering Article 50. I heard that too, but when is that going to happen? Well it also seems unconstitutional for them...I think the whole thing's a blunt they're not gonna do anything they can't do anything. It's not gonna happen at all. We were expecting a redo or a do-over and maybe they still crafted into something like well you know we've been working on this for a year now and sentiment has changed maybe we should check in again with everybody

1:55:58 Yeah, we want to keep our hand on the pulse of the people. Yes! Well something's screwed by that... So anyway I thought that was an interesting part where he says, I don't know how they're going to get out of this anyway Now here is another one This is again a discussion with different people These are all Chinese And they're very glib about something. We know this, we've talked about it on the show that the Chinese go into Africa and they never give a crap If you're the most, the worst government in the world and you're shooting every other person on a daily basis on television just for kicks. They don't care! They do not get involved like we do. The United States won't do business with corrupt governments supposedly unless that corruption is good enough to get your tens of millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation

1:56:48 Sorry. Now, the Chinese and when the Chinese explain what they do which is what they're going to do right in this clip uh...the second CCN clip I'm- The first thing i thought of was Star Trek! Hold on let me review now What we know about the chinese particularly with usually about oil and minerals They go in, they say all right we're going to build your schools and build your roads. We're gonna be a hospitals when we're gonna use your people and then they start to build the roads, the schools, the hospitals they bring in all their own people. They never leave. They build it all. Then we usually come along and go hey, hey gooks get out! We're taking over this that's usually how it works well if we can but they built all the infrastructure bill lot of roads they've built a lot of stuff there builders definitely builders you know

1:57:37 But the thing that reminds me of Star Trek is that the Chinese approach to all these nations, and they go in and try to loot them I think. That's an American perspective... Is the prime directive! So who would they be on Star Trek? They would be the Starship Federation of Planets, which have this prime directive. And you see this with... Aren't they the Ferengi's? Wouldn't they be the Ferengi? No no no there's a-no there-No! This is for Star Trek we're not talking about the bullcrap Star Treks that came later. I'm sorry screw the Ferengi

1:58:13 F you for it. No, this is the prime directive as you're a Star Trek guy to seek out new worlds and new civilizations. You don't know what I'm talking about! This is the point of making so I'll explain it to ya The prime directive which dominates the first couple of Star Trek shows and most of the movies Is that you can go to a foreign...an alien place And the prime directive is you can't screw with their culture, you can't screw with their laws. You can't screw with their traditions. You can't screw with them! But you can do anything that would change the course of history in their area. Go in and visit say hi grab a few fruits

1:58:52 Go back and ingest the fruits, and then fly away. You can't... This government stinks! We don't like you!" And then start shooting up the place to change their government That's kind of the prime directive, and that dominates the early Star Trek thinking The Chinese are utilizing this same kinda prime directive Completely opposite of what we do And here they kind of explain it. given the complexity of ethnic and religious rivalry between Sunnis, Shiites, moderates and extremists secular ones and fundamentalist jihadists so on so forth it will be a graveyard for the major powers

1:59:49 Don't you think so? I totally agree. You do see Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit to Iran, Egypt and also Saudi Arabia China is trying to play a role like neutral basically to be friends with everybody in this Middle Eastern region here, you know which has been known for not only oil production but also chaos let's say. So China is trying basically Chinese is following this principle of non-interference in domestic affairs if it's Saudi Arabia or Iraq or Syria that's your own behavior own domestic affairs we don't want to interfere but what we can do is to do infrastructure and construction all issuing loans soft loans to help you if you need the help But we don't impose our will on your

2:00:33 National construction, so that's the one way particularly very different from the US practice there. Yeah unique selling proposition yeah So the reason why I was thinking about it during that clip? I don't know that about the prime director of start I was more a speed racer guy I watched Speed Racer instead of Star Trek Sorry to hear that Hey a monkey who can drive a race car are you kidding me um So are they promoting this? Is this like a PR job is kind of what it sounds like to me. I think so, you can go do you want to do business with the United States and risk regime change or do you want to do business with the Chinese who are hands-off hey if you want to be a bunch of weirdos we don't care

2:01:19 Hmm. Yeah, it is a sales pitch this yeah China's always gonna be there reliable We're reliable and we don't mess with you and we got to keep our eye on that This is a bad thing. Yeah now this is the this is a very bad situation I agree. Yeah, but particularly because you know they've got the deal with Russia And now what's going on there? This is this this whole situation is it's been poorly handled It's very poorly handled as getting worse, and it's not gonna get any better. Hey There's something going on in British Parliament I'm sure some law or something is coming up and it has to do with with ISIS ISIL Daesh the caliphate whoo Allah Akbar three different

2:02:04 Members of Parliament stood up, all backbenchers. It was one of those kind of emptier sessions but they were reading off kinda the same script and it was to explain how incredibly evil Daesh is ISIS which of course as you hear this one clip... I only took one clip in just a little bit we went on for an hour all these different testimonials about how evil it all is, it seems like there's a ramp up for some big participation of the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation. Listen to this... Yesterday evening here in the UK Parliament we heard the truly harrowing personal testimony of a brave 16 year old Yazidi girl called Aklas

2:02:45 She was seized along with others from her community by Daesh, from a home in Sinjar Northern Iraq. At age 15 she saw her father and brother killed in front of her told how every girl in her community over eight including herself was imprisoned and raped she spoke of witnessing her friends being raped to hearing their screams I've seen a girl aged nine being raped by so many men that she died Many young girls had their fragile bodies rendered incapable of pregnancy and others far too young to be so were made pregnant. Horrifically, she spoke of seeing a two-year old boy being killed his body parts ground down and then fed to his own mother." Oh man! This is better than the incubator story this is good that two year old boy ground down and fed to his mother

2:03:46 You know that story BAM! I think they're feeding the kid to the mom. Just unbelievable I think by the way, I think that story is a rewrite of something we heard a couple of years ago There's more. That's a new story was another 45 seconds and I put some boy And it was all like this John It was all but when you said you did the kid was ground down and fed to his mother Wow, he spoke of seeing a two-year old boy being killed in His body parts ground down and then fed to his own mother. She told of children being brainwashed and forced to kill their own parents. Fortunately, she managed to escape her prison during a bombardment of the area around it. Others are not so fortunate."

2:04:35 We also heard from another woman, Yvette who'd come directly from Syria for last night's meeting and spoke of Christians being killed and tortured. Of children being beheaded in front of their parents She showed us recent film footage of her talking with mothers and more than one who had seen their own children crucified of another woman who saw 250 children put through a dough kneader and burnt in an oven. The oldest was four years old." Oh man, I don't think anyone could top the grounding down the baby beef burger but hold on...I mean something this we've seen this point well we've seen his behavior you seen this behavior that's why to me it was a total

2:05:19 Call back to the incubator babies when the thing that was orchestrated by one of the big burst and Marsteller one of them or Hill and Nolan one of the big PR companies yet Was the guy's daughter and she goes in says oh they came in And they they had a revolutionary guard where they threw they threw They through the babies out of the incubators on the ground yeah, it turned out to be not true No The whole thing was a big lie for a purpose so when this happens and when these are scripted Little ditties they're doing. Yeah, thumbs up! Thumbs up somewhere where we need something that's gonna cost you money And if your brown and you live in a sandy area it's time to take cover because someone's coming for ya Nobody mentions of course the butchery that takes place with all the bombings in Yemen which is backed by us

2:06:08 Well, didn't we pull out? Didn't we pull out. You know that's what they say but there is no evidence of it and the Saudis are still bombing there in this... It's our gear I don't know if were really doing that much bombing personally as you know as American pilots We're painting the targets Painting them Oh! I watched 13 hours yesterday Then the reason..I'll tell you back up The reason why i watched it So I sent the leaner report to one of our military intelligence people who was one of our producers. And he actually sent a note back, which I think I forwarded it to you. He said, you know CIA is there's more and more military guys in there now so they're definitely not all in for Hillary

2:06:53 Well, I never thought the rank and file would necessarily be for Hillary but the command structure is. That's what I said as well how about Brennan? And he came back said oh it was just a pencil pusher these guys are pencil pushers they're not really running the show like okay that's interesting you sure seems to be running the show and then he said by the way even Hollywood is turning against her I said what I don't see this. Well, okay so that's what i said...I don't see any evidence. He said no but I won't talk about it because you know maybe consulting or something but boy uh you should! I don't think any of the cast of 13 hours is going to vote for Hillary and this is the Benghazi story but it's Michael Bay that's a Michael Bay production and direction and I'm pretty sure that's what he was talking about And when you see that movie oh man yeah you will not vote for Hillary after seeing that movie

2:07:47 Is this movie out? I mean, yeah. Yeah it's what you're talking about Oh 13 hours! It's about the Benghazi affair it's all about what happened at at the consulate and the CIA annex in Benghazi and how they were waiting for people to come there. I haven't seen it promoted... It won multiple nominations I think for Academy Awards even. It's on Netflix now Yeah, gee I wonder why no one promoted that movie. Hmm let me think makes Hillary look bad hmmmm I wonder should we promote this? It's it doesn't sound to be like Hollywood's turning it sounds like one movie yeah but is a pretty big guy Bay is Michael Bay but Michael yeah well he's definitely got knows how to make money as a movie maker and as predicted

2:08:36 We were talking about the burkini issue in France. I was boots on the ground as the terrorist forces, or anti-terrorist forces were spraying pepper spraying people trying to get onto the beaches of France and then at gunpoint making women take off their burkinis Well, finally! Finally the US press has gotten a hold of it. And as you can imagine it is just an outrage we can't believe it I think its time to bring back Freedom Fries This week a woman in Nice was forced to strip four armed officers standing over her then fined

2:09:12 She's Muslim, accused of violating a new law against so-called burkinis. A bikini that is more like a burka covering almost everything and designed to give Muslim women more freedom. It was part of integration I just gotta love the framing it was designed to give muslim women more freedom. More free... Beautiful where did this come from? This is I think it's NBC. It's today show no NBC Yeah, this is a little more of this but more for just love that more freedom You can have any car you want as long as its black? I mean That's this is crazy almost everything and designed to give Muslim women more freedom. It was part of integration It was part of combining the code This is the designer who apparently came up with it the whole idea Muslim women more

2:09:58 freedom. It was part of integration, it was part of combining the cultures... The ban has sparked protests. There are better ways to deal with fear than division Online this tweet you should be weeping France and this a picture of Jacques Cousteau fully covered in this secular country. Jacques Cousteau in his diving suit which yeah arguably looks like a burkini on the top. France and this a picture of Jacques Cousteau fully covered In this secular country where it's illegal to wear crosses in schools and veils over faces, most support the burkini ban. You come to France you have to live like the French, this man says. Still for some it is political. There are more important things like education and women's rights, the mayor of Paris said.

2:10:46 So, finally we caught on a little bit. I don't know if... The thing is France is our partner in Syria and Libya and the oil business so we can really make too much noise about them but if Donald Trump gets any of this that would have been rather interesting to watch So I think we just won't see much more about it at all. There's a lot of coverage of this on RT, I had couple possible clips usually with some apologist that says this with the same nonsense that gives women more freedom and then another guy saying the only reason they're doing is to provoke hate and

2:11:28 You know, it's an interesting thing that is going on. I don't know how much business it is of ours... Well the business of ours is here's a country who has been pounded slammed hammered by terrorist attacks and they are doing something about which Oh, who's that? I don't know you want to pick it up. You say usually kick the phone And so it doesn't ring during this show maybe it's an important call Maybe it's maybe it's Mimi she's been listening and she has some comment Let's listen in with John as he talks to some person on the phone We'll take off the noise gate so we can hear what he's saying What well hello

2:12:19 No, I don't want your beans! I have no desire to buy beans from you. Goodbye sir! No, but eventually this is exactly what we're grappling with here in the United States about extreme vetting and how can you test someone's conscious. And so there are symbols...it's very hard to explain why I agree with what they're doing having grown up in this changing multicultural society in the Netherlands and also to some degree in Belgium and in the United Kingdom

2:13:08 you really understand where people are coming from. Although intellectually, like well that's not okay how can we tell people what to wear and if you have religious freedom? But on the other hand when you see your street...the picture of your street as they say change into just black hooded things Yeah, but this is a problem for people. So it's... I'm not quite sure what to say about it other than that I think France is pretty bold to say no we are going to stop this because this is a problem and it makes people uncomfortable and this is- We're just drawing the line here. I think it's a very interesting case that cannot be discussed

2:13:49 in mainstream. It can't just, it won't really be discussed all the time like oh you said this he said this oh this is stupid there's nuns on the beach but really when it comes down to the problem... The problem people are and I'm not sure I have anything to add to it other than I do understand where they're coming from yeah I know you do how about you? I'm on your side Yeah but how do you square that with a constitution or freedom? Freedom! Well, if he's that free why don't you walk around naked? There used to be a guy in Berkeley that was the naked guy and he'd walk around naked. And there he goes just going naked they didn't know what to do about this guy finally moved

2:14:26 Was that your swinger friend or was that someone else? No, I never knew this guy but he was the naked guy. It was...I think for about four five years he would walk around it was just naked all the time wandering around and they didn't know what to do there were you know what are we gonna do I think they just hoped it didn't become a trend never became a trend They had a...there's a thing I got photos There was a big gathering about I think three years ago maybe four years ago in one of the Berkeley People's Park in Berkeley and it was the naked gathering, Naked Tribes or whatever it's gonna be called. And so you go over there just because I had my camera on and said this has gotta be a gem! So I went over there and they were going to have a naked parade

2:15:08 and they're all over there naked. It was like, whoa this is the worstest most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Most people shouldn't be naked pretty obvious when you see them and uh... i took a couple photos from a distance and then took off it's just kinda creepy well you know how many things happen as part of the constitution can she be naked here's here's the uh... here's the stress codes in a fun little fun fact hashtag fun fact when i was living in that london If you would go to Harrods, which is kind of the classy department store. And if you would watch the women's lingerie department, which I sometimes found myself in... You would see women come in with niqabs so that's the burka where the eyes are visible just make it easy or full-on burka a lot of that and they would be buying the most unbelievable lingerie very top end most expensive stuff

2:16:05 And so underneath all that, there's something going on. I guess and I think we... That tells me that women like to you know doll themselves up on occasion and wander around in a burka or that black thing that solid black garb which is see in no the solid black there's no eyeballs showing uh what you see when you go into the Middle East to hang out in Dubai it's like all the women are dressed like that It says just and it's by the way. It's 110 you know, and they're all in this black thing It's almost I think to torment them yeah The guys meanwhile are wearing the dish dash a white its white outfit women are in the black outfit that's Sweating like a pig I guess underneath. I got a note from one of our producers who is in where does he now oh

2:16:57 I think he may be in Egypt. I was listening to episode 854, heard about the French guy wanting a clip saying that in Arab countries women can't wear bikinis on the beach and he said uh...I do want you tell you that you can wear bikinis on the beaches in the following cities oh he's... Dubai where he currently lives this is Allah who wrote us Abu Dhabi Beirut Amman Giza and Sharm Sheikh in Egypt I just thought it was interesting. You have a lot of weird rules, I've told this story before we went to the opening of PC Mag Middle East and it was in Dubai and so that must have been a party back in the 80's 90's when they had money

2:17:51 They still have money. And it was a party, yeah it was true and I'm at some hotel when one of the Saudi princes...I'm hanging out with this guy and he says you want to go get a beer? Are you smoking a hookah with him? No. He said do you wanna go get a beer? And I looked at him and said can we have a beer He says, well... And because there's a bar in this hotel. It was like an English pub style bar. He says I can yeah but I have to change and so he goes upstairs and comes back down wearing jeans. We had the robe on that dish dashes they like to call it. And he goes upstairs and changes into pair of jeans ACDC t-shirt and sunglasses. Then we go to the barn and he explains

2:18:40 If you're a Muslim, or Saudi or whatever. You can go to these bars but you can't be wearing the traditional garb! If you were wearing the traditional garb that he had on normally wore... He would be arrested But it was okay to wear the t-shirt and jeans. Interesting! What he subtexted this to me was, if I dress like a dirty pig from the West... ...I can go into this bar where you know it makes more sense. And I don't know if he drank a beer or not, but there are lot of Muslims drink. I have not heard you tell that story. I don't remember that one. Thought I've told that story? No, I don't think so. I've told the story once in awhile because I was always kind of like shaking my head over it and says yeah, I can be in here is no problem but I can't being here and then you look around there was now one person obviously cause you get arrested if your wearing...if your like a native

2:19:33 in the bar, you know dressed like that. I was in Dubai many many years ago with Patricia and Christina and I remember it was not okay to have a bikini on on the beach there were the one place like the water park across from Bourj Al Arab yeah that was okay but that's kind of its own...I don't recall a lot of warnings. I don't remember that either, in fact I was lectured To an extreme by this British expat when I was hanging out there, and he was giving me all everything I needed to know about everything. He says that most of the British into the others of Foreigners that live in Dubai they always have they live in compounds that are closed to Arab yes Yes, yes, yes, he says you have to do that He says it's not because we don't want Arabs in the place or anything But they he says it creeps out all the women because they have private pools

2:20:19 And the women are dressed in normal bathing suits and if there's an Arab anywhere nearby he'll just pull up a seat, put himself right next to the pool and stare at them. Like he's gonna kill him or rape him. He says it's very creepy, so you have to have these private compounds that you'd have a key to get in and be a member and all the rest of it And they always say is because racism but its not! It's because this creepy quality of these guys coming in staring at the women Well Christina got back from Amman Jordan She did that little reality show It was more like sending a celebrity to place they've never been

2:20:57 which I'm envious. I would have loved to have gone to Jordan and so i talked to her finally last night and yeah she said wow man that men are a-holes there, really they're really really a-holes except for one she says there was some guy who...I think maybe he was the camel rental guy or something because of course they had to ride camels I probably forgot to send you the picture, but when Christina puts on a hijab. Yeah she just looks perfectly like she fits right in. Okay! I'm making a point but the guy was like oh no you are perfect Bedouin bride uh... You have to stay here.

2:21:40 But she said otherwise... Becoming a Bedouin out of the blue is kind of an interesting idea. Well, she said that the men were really obnoxious She found Amman itself to be dirty and nasty She didn't like it at all but she did like the food They buried the food in the sand all day things Have you ever heard this? I'm sure the food in the Middle East is fabulous Yeah, yeah, she said it was really good Really good. It's when you get the grease where it starts to deteriorate. Exactly. Well, let's thank a few people for show 855 and starting with Sir Robert Tennant one of our New Zealanders

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2:32:42 who are really trying to not have you participate. We did a story, I talked about this story a couple shows ago that NPR is turning off all their comments because... Well i picked up a piece by Smirkonish That's the douche who does the media-based reporting on CNN Of course they rarely report about their douchiness but and I thought it would be really interesting just to listen to where he and the mainstream media are coming from when it comes to shutting down your feedback loop into what they are reporting. Now this is NPR, this is CNN these are real journalistic organizations who are shutting it down now of course we can kind of figure out why they're shutting it down because there's horrible things being said but you listen to this guy he is without a doubt media elite

2:33:32 And you can hear where they're coming from with their reporting, which is anything but this type of interaction we create here. This election cycle has turned a lot of social media into anti-social media People's Facebook feeds are increasingly fractious reflecting our coarse and polarized national political dialogue Matter of fact, a piece in tomorrow's New York Times magazine about Facebook's political pages quotes page operators likening comments to torch wielding mobsters and sharks in a feeding frenzy. That's a part of why NPR recently discontinued comments on any of its news stories at npr.org The other reason? NPR discovered what I've always suspected about such forums only a tiny percentage of their users were doing most of the posting 0.06% percent of their 33 million viewers! I applaud NPR

2:34:29 It's been years since I read any of the comments on my own Sunday column in the Philadelphia Inquirer. I found them to be largely angry, uncivil and certainly unresponsive to the merits of whatever I was arguing and not worthy of a response especially when commenters hide behind pseudonyms While the internet has made our lives exponentially easier, the use of technology is not without its drawbacks. And one liability? The beer muscles that some grow when given the opportunity to express themselves anonymously! Just like The Drunk who has an inflated measure of his power by closing time many bloggers adapt a tone and they say things online that they would never offer if their faces were seen in there identities known

2:35:15 Our political dialogue is far too coarse. Nasty anonymous comments are a significant part of a much bigger problem, but it's one aspect that we can easily control just like NPR just did. Shut up audience! You're stupid! There's a bunch of mistakes and mistaken thinking involved with this guy and I would put myself into a very established position I have is major standing because I actually started my online stuff during the CompuServe era when we had something at PC Magazine called PC Magnet. Yeah, I remember this and that was way back it was in the 80's now The thing about comments is yeah if you say so even if you say something very well thought out or Something douchey really doesn't make any difference You're gonna get a lot of negative comments

2:36:12 The point of leaving the comments there is not really, it's not about you. Douche! It's about the reader Yes, the reader reads. Yeah okay so I write something and you know maybe I do one of my anti-apple things I don't even do that anymore it's not worth the trouble and then they Apple things change but I write anything and I will get a bunch of feedback of all different sorts You get feedback from like some military guy because he said something wrong And then it was about a military weapon is a 32 for dot 4 4 or not at 30 to dot 44 oh we get those or so You're mixing up the 38 with a 380. You've got that... you're all screwed up!

2:36:55 And so you get a lot of that and but you get it, but a lot of it. You don't It's not up to the right the writer what? You write a piece They don't have you know how to interact with them But you can read you can you can or you kill you can or you don't even you could ignore it because it's not about you It's about the audience that comes to reads your article and then they read the comments and they usually I'd say most of the time if not I mean, all the time perhaps. There is something hilarious embedded in the comments. Somebody has a one-liner...I'm not saying that I steal jokes from the commenters in certain situations but there's a lot of funny stuff that guys will drop in and they'll really be like boom! So to do this, who cares what people think about what you just wrote?

2:37:50 What you're doing is you're short sheeting the readers. And that's what the problem is in my estimation. There were two parts to this, The second part Is he's very clear about anonymity and beer muscle and You would never do it if your face were there This is part of the push and we'll see it with our mainstream media first Towards registration real names all that stuff That's where that's gonna go Yeah Yeah, well they like to do... I mean a lot of people already switched over to discuss. Discuss is a and there's a couple of these systems. I think discuss was the first one as DISQ you something or other, one of the first syndicated types? Yeah well it's a it's a commenting system that you subscribe to if you're running a blog or something and then all the comments get filtered by discus so you can't really just put a bunch of spam or just a bunch of cussing or something like that in there

2:38:50 I have an account, every time I see a... and people would like to recommend people do this. And listen carefully when i'm reading something and go to the bottom of the comments because I might want to read your comments sometimes they do sometimes they don't if I see discuss as the system I will then comment Because it's easy, I don't have to register. I've already registered and can put my comment in the comment always goes like this whatever the article is Wow! This is interesting In fact this is exactly what we'll be discussing on the next noagendashow.com Yes Hello? Did you hear that producers? Give them the line again

2:39:36 Wow, this is interesting. This is exactly well if they're producers a yeah This is exactly what they're discussing on the no agenda show calm and you put under that I am a producer You could I am a producer And so I know So you produce? Oh you just it's what I do constantly sometimes you make them blue variation So it's customized so doesn't sound like just as rubber stamp right but I do that too All the time. I like people say, well read this. I read it and go down to the comments is discuss boom. I'm in and it's got a little no agenda logo for my picture And then it goes and that's what you should everyone should be doing we know We need kind of a note when you say no agenda logo Do you put that into comment or as a part of your discus profile? It's my photo So we need those

2:40:26 When you get on, when you just subscribe to a lot of these services and your on Disqus they let you put an upload a photo that shows up in the comment. You got little photo of yourself on the left and then there's the comment and the photo is actually a sideways no agenda it's not the logo but it says No Agenda Show and something from one of the stickers that looks really good as a photo right so... And yeah man they're cool because their not alt-right their alt wrong That's what I want. So, uh, it doesn't take a lot of work and it helps promote the show. Um, um, by the way some people unless you put links in like that no agenda show.com just say no agenda show and then in parents Google it. Yeah. But I have one more clip I wanna play and then I'd love to hear, I'd love to have your here about your EpiPen things because I think we can discuss that for a moment

2:41:20 This is just lovely to hear Sheriff Clark Joe. Is it Joe Clark or David Clark? Joe Clark, the Joe Clark. The thing is Joe isn't Joe. Yeah, he's a black sheriff from I will just call him job. He's the black share from Minneapolis. Yeah, that I think there's David. I think you're right in his David Clark now it's not because death Dave Clark 5. We'll find out. And it was, you know... I'm torn about this guy because i totally agree with everything he says but i think the way he comes across- You know, sheriffs are elected and he is an elected official but you know Yeah, he's loaded to the gills. He looks like Petraeus. It's a little too much yeah it's a little too much which is too bad because he is saying things I believe to be completely accurate and truthful you know The American ghetto has replaced the cotton fields where Democrats have gathered blacks in these horrible miserable conditions We've been black people been separated from their history You know they traditionally voted Republicans. There was Abraham Lincoln a Republican who freed the slaves? it was the

2:42:23 Republicans in Congress who did the heavy lifting to get the Civil Rights Act passed as well as voting rights. The Democrats were against it, Lyndon Johnson had to appeal to Republicans even though the Democrats controlled both houses of congress he didn't have enough from the Democrats who stood in the way of passage of those two important bills so once we reconnect black people with their history and which is what I've been trying to do, their eyes will open and they'll see that they've been hoodwinked by this monolithic voting for Democrats. Nothing has gotten better under Democrat control of the black vote These progressive policies have wrecked some great American cities Baltimore Milwaukee look at Chicago right now 455 murders to date

2:43:10 That's more than the deaths of coalition forces in Afghanistan since the start of Obama's second term in 2013, where 270 coalition forces have been killed. So you have almost twice as many people killed in Chicago. I don't see Obama going to Chicago to help out. Obama was in Martha's Vineyard for heaven sakes that is where he vacations and spends his time on luxurious resort golf courses, he vacations in Hawaii. That's far removed from the American ghetto." Well his history I think is spot on! Yeah yeah...I know it cracks me up i'm very amused by it. You go to Europe and you ask people about well Abraham Lincoln was clearly a Democrat but people just really don't know. Clearly a Democrat obviously. Oh yeah oh yeah It's sad

2:43:59 But we do have a problem, and I talk with Tina about this all the time because of the entitlement factor of all people in United States is really out of control. it's hard to say. Well, there are services that people receive that are philanthropic, that are paid for by companies and individuals who offer them services certainly in medical area and they there's no gratefulness anymore. And I'm not blaming anyone, but the reason they... It's like oh well of course it's there, of course there is something, of course there is a safety net and almost everything feels like all the government taking care of me or whatever it is and they don't even realize that there are you know a lot... There's a lot of nonprofits certainly in Austin that they are doing this based on people's generosity trying to keep programs afloat that the government cannot will not or should

2:44:59 be putting in place, but you combine that with really the safety net and I'm really a murk and A-hole about this stuff. It breeds contempt and entitlement and the result is irreversible. I saw this in the socialist countries I grew up in and it saddens me." Well what are you going to do about it? Do more podcasts, of course. There you go! That's the answer to everything. Go podcasting! All right how about this EpiPen bullshit? There is a lot going on with this. Well this EpiPen story... okay now we've talked about this sort of thing on the show a lot because it's something that galls me

2:45:45 The way the system works, and this is when Obama... we had when they were passing this Obamacare you know he would oh every once in a while slip between medical reform and health care reform an insurance reform. He interchangeably used these words because this isn't a giant insurance scam the entire Obamacare deal The Affordable Health Care Act. The Affordable Health Care Act is an insurance scam, and the idea is that everybody has to have health insurance. Okay I got my health insurance well how are these guys gonna make more and more money? Well by jacking up the price of their healthcare. And how can they do that well they need an excuse. Well the partners in arm now one of the big donors for the Obama election

2:46:29 The pharmas, the big pharmas all they have to do is just jack up their prices and they do it with all the drugs. And they jack up their prices and jack up their prices on the same product. And end user you or the person getting insurance pays the same little out of pocket like five bucks or 10 bucks but if you look at the numbers if you paid attention the base price of the drug has gone from $10 to 20 to 50 to 100 to more And so they jacked up the prices, you still pay the five bucks and you feel fine about that. But because the insurance company picks up the other $95 where they used to pick up five dollars They got a charge more for insurance and they do that with a rationale if ever get taken in front of Congress Oh no! No it's not us is the drug companies

2:47:14 And so everybody, it's a scam. It's a massive scam and so every once in awhile they find someone to bust their chop over as though it is something that only happening to them I believe the EpiPen thing is either because the company never coughed up any donations to Obama administration or some other angle and they're also to make it worse, they've set up the CEO who I've heard interviewed this woman. I've heard her interviewed she is a dummy she's a dumb cheerleader that somehow got to the CEO position no offense women listen to this yes she did get to that position through her father and one of our producers so i have to keep completely anonymous can't really even talk much about his note he said because he worked there he said

2:48:00 When she came in great tits dumb as a rock. Yes, and I'm sorry how that came across but that was literally what he said. She is a patsy! Yeah yeah yes And they keep pointing to her and she's so stupid And of course she's gonna walk away with a lot of money for a patsy even though Her life is going to be miserable people are gonna yell at her when she walks down the street Because it's like her fault for everything and I feel actually sorry for this woman. Although she is making a lot more money than I am. There is one small data point about this particular product, Mylan of course bought the company

2:48:39 in 2000 from from Merck in 2007 and This the ingredient is about to go out of patent. So it seems like hey one last push Let's get as much as we can before the generics come on the market and the FDA actually The FDA was supposed to approve a competing epifrine Epinephrine injector, that's not epinephrine at something else's a peanut freeing I think a pinaprene. A pinafreen, that's what i'm saying but yeah a pinafree and they didn't approve that device for oh yeah convenient now so there's no competing product on the market it's about to go generic jack up the price this is what happens absolutely well i have a clip that kind of talks about this a little bit

2:49:25 Every six minutes, life-threatening food allergies send someone to the hospital. The maker of EpiPen running this ad 46 times during the Olympics raising awareness while raising their bottom line hiking the cost of EpiPens from $100 in 2009 to more than $600 today and the EpiPen isn't the only one! The drug maker hiking the price on a slew of other medications 24 products seeing a more than 20% spike, seven products rising more than 100%. The drug maker CEO Heather Bresch's total compensation spiked too from two and a half million dollars her first year in 2007 to 19 million today. Early this year Bresch was asked if she thought drug prices should be regulated to make them more affordable? I hope

2:50:14 not because I don't think the answer is price controls. There are certainly outliers that are grabbing great headlines but it's not, it's not the answer." Top Senate members giving Mylan a deadline two weeks to respond to the pricing probe and a spokesperson for the maker of EpiPen Mylan saying that they personally contacted all those members of Congress and look forward to meeting with them David I do have a bit of a report after we talked about the cost of health care, particularly for me and how it's going up thanks to the poor strategy of the Affordable Care Act.

2:50:53 So here's the main advice I got. Pay the fine, don't take the bullshit insurance...I've got at least 15 different emails of people showing me how much money they really saved even when a kid broke their arm and all these different things now I haven't seen anyone say well I have cancer and I'm paying for it myself but without fail every single one of them says if you Say to the doctor, at the doctors office. I'm self-paying myself and willing to do that in cash if you can give me 50% discount They take it And the reason why is because insurance companies they sue, they argue, they harangle with these people They sometimes get it down to 30 cents on the dollar with the doctors So when a doctor can get it for 50 cents on the dollar their happy My doctor told me

2:51:47 that the biggest problem right now in the business and why people are shutting shop is because they can't deal with this. Everything, they fight everything you come in to get a B12 shot they fight it yeah he and he says that he knows somebody he says I don't know I can't prove it but this guy told me that he worked in one of these companies that one of these insurance operations and you are paid to as the person taking the call to approve the payment you're told to fight it just fight it put it off fight it, fight it and that thing is an absolute monster. And its unbelievable thats gone on this long what has congress done? Meanwhile they make a big deal out of this EpiPen Fiasco

2:52:31 Yeah, well that's just to... That's just a cover-up. It's just a smoke screen! Exactly it's just you know focus over actually is what we call the distraction of the week on The Woods Gender Cover Exactly Well there you go You're up to speed I think so For now I think the MTV Awards are tonight i'm gonna watch that Oh bet you are yeah this is fun Don't they always have some event where two women kiss or something like that? I don't know. I haven't been to one in a long time They should invite you Yeah, they should but they hate me As you know For no good reason No! I quit You know if they don't like people who quit on them then it's like... It's like we fire you No, you can't because i quit

2:53:27 But I will be watching for the satanic messaging, whatever the Illuminati want to tell us. Oh yes we'll want a report on this because i'm probably not going to watch that. No, I will bring you a full report, a full report Yeah there's always some satanic thing going on at this event Yes, yes, yes, yes Alright everybody thank you chat room for showing up it was good, good times Everybody thank you boys for keeping the back end running And thank you producers of this program You know who you are, and you make it happen. With finances, with jingles, with artwork, with information is all highly appreciated. And coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in the skyscraper here in downtown Austin, Tejas! In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where apparently traffic on a Sunday afternoon and a nice breezy Sunday afternoon headed to San Francisco's all jacked up unbelievable. I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda

2:54:19 Adios, mofos. For 20 plus years they've had glow-in-the dark dogs you can buy and there were used to be that would come at you and get your girl. In October the National... ...distorted portrayals please come at you and get your girl. As noble doing good in the distorted portrayals I feel like it's a so with every breath I take... ...distorted portrayal and that we're used to seeing. The National Enquirer dismissed Jordan for trail portraiting. So with every breath I could trail for tripping, I'd try to take a... ...to see that would come at you and get your throat stuck. Jordan for tripping, pivoted, retake blankets. That would at you in order to see that would come

2:55:03 I feel like it's a distorted portrayal that would come to seem that would be online. It all is conspiracy theory online, glinting in your group, glinting, assimilable doing good in the world. You say you're assimilable. It's a take. I feel like it's a take. I feel dismissed. Dismisses at all as contradicts. It all is a field take. I feel taken. I feel dismisses even if it is portrayed or portrayed and dismisses it all as... That's an ABC guy said come at you and get into your group That's on trail, Brevin in the store dismisses it all as a pain room. Clinton dismisses it all as... That's on ABC A guy said come at you and get in your room. Stop spazzing And be cool

2:56:07 Amen, fist bump. Adios, mofo.