Episode 841 · Sunday, 10 July 2016

Summer of Chaos

A sniper attack in Dallas and the FBI’s refusal to indict Hillary Clinton signal a volatile shift in American civil order and institutional trust.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 39m listen | 37 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 841

About this episode

The Dallas police department faces a catastrophic staffing crisis following the sniper attack by Micah Xavier Johnson, an Army Reserve veteran who targeted officers during a downtown protest. Chief David Brown reports a surge in resignations as low morale and uncompetitive pay drive personnel toward surrounding municipalities. Authorities utilized a bomb disposal robot armed with C4 explosives to neutralize Johnson, an unprecedented use of lethal force in domestic policing that bypassed traditional due process and destroyed potential forensic evidence.

FBI Director James Comey testified before a House committee regarding Hillary Clinton’s private email server, confirming that over 100 classified documents passed through an unauthorized basement system. While Comey labeled the actions extremely careless, he declined to recommend criminal prosecution, sparking intense questioning from Representative Trey Gowdy regarding Clinton’s previous public denials. Simultaneously, the arrest of Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson in Louisiana follows leaked social media messages allegedly detailing a Summer of Chaos intended to disrupt the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

John C. Dvorak recounts a high-stakes dinner with New York Times reporter John Markoff where a fifty-dollar bet was placed on Donald Trump’s primary success against the skepticism of the media elite. Adam Curry critiques CNN host Don Lemon for an increasingly unprofessional and self-referential broadcast style during segments on racial politics. The program concludes with a knighting ceremony for Sir KG of Virginia and a warning regarding the disappearance of the Silent Circle warrant canary.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Open Episode 841

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They briefly discuss a glass award received by the show and debunk the "giant island of plastic bottles" in the Pacific Ocean as a bogus environmental claim. The hosts note the tendency for major news events to break immediately following their show recordings.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· podcast awards· plastic bottles

00:00 Are they doing it for people who are too stupid to figure out how to listen to a podcast? Confused about whose lives actually matter and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region 6 Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm looking over the award we just won I'm John C Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning Does it have pointy edges? I don't have anything. It's just a glass. It's a glass of water. Oh, I have one of those awards too! In a bottled variety. Yes. Yeah, so the bottled variety made of plastic. Yes, yes indeedy. Okay. How you doing?

00:54 There's a big giant island of these plastic bottles supposedly out in the middle of the Pacific. Yeah, we've talked about that. It's bogus. It's bullcrap. It's probably pretty bogus, yeah. So things always seem to happen on show days. Right after we're done with the show, boom, all hell breaks loose. If you want to be safe, just stay out of hot tubs, small aircraft, and pretty much just stay in bed when we do shows. And listen to the show. Well, there's a bunch of things that took place all in a row. Yeah, hold on. I forgot my notes. I have a big list of notes. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Hold on. I was doing that, but he told me to hold on. But I can say a few things. When I'm elected, I will make sure that everyone has a carrot that they can chop and boil. That'll be about all you're going to end up with. Did anything happen while I was gone?

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

Alton Sterling and Philando Castile Police Shootings Analysis

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak examine the police shootings of Alton Sterling in Louisiana and Philando Castile in Minnesota. They analyze police scanner audio suggesting Castile was a robbery suspect rather than a victim of a broken taillight stop. The discussion highlights the danger of user-generated video content on Facebook Live being accepted as absolute truth before all facts are established.

alton sterling· philando castile· baton rouge· minnesota· mark dayton· police scanner

01:50 Yeah, shootings. All right, sorry about that. Yes. Okay, where do you want to start? Well, we could start with Obama triggering some of it, but we won't go there. No, I think we could because I think Obama needs to just, you know, chill as he would. I would very much like to go back first The timeline of what's happened in the past week and certainly what happened in Dallas, a lot of troubling things about what happened in Dallas. More so than usual. I agree with that and we'll go over those. I have a few things. I don't get a lot of clips from Dallas but I do have a lot of questions to ask. I'd like to go back first to Louisiana and Minneapolis. Okay.

02:38 And by the way, I want to mention that in January we more or less predicted that because of the six-week cycle being in abeyance, that there would be these staggered events and they would be in a series. As we got out of Obama's last term in office, so he could try to get at least some anti-gun legislation through. It has a name actually, but we'll get to that. Summer of Chaos is the project name. just to make it a little more intriguing. Okay, go. We need to go back first to the two incidents that apparently led up to this, even though if you have, as the police say, a shooting that was meticulously planned in advance, seems a very short timeline to turn this around. A very short. Very short timeline. Okay. Let's start off... So we've only seen video. It's very, very dangerous.

03:36 for the truth, I guess, if that makes a difference to anybody. When television is just broadcasting user-generated content, remember that's what we used to call it, John? What is it called now? It used to be user-generated content. Now it's Facebook Live. Because very quickly that becomes the truth, the true story. So if we look at, well let's start. I'm just looking for all my clips here. So we have the guy who was tackled outside of the convenience store where he apparently was selling CDs, right? Which he's been doing for years apparently, also apparently. Yes, exactly. Or so we are told. Now what we saw... And I believe that this guy was doing that, exactly. I'm sure. But I'm just looking at it from the police perspective for a moment.

04:36 And there's now more than the video that the mainstream has broadcasted, there's a couple other angles. But they were called in on a guy brandishing a weapon charge. What you didn't see in the first video is they tased him, he would not go down, he would not stay down. And then of course we actually can't see what's going on, we hear gun and then the guy gets shot to death. All I'm saying is when you look at his rap sheet, aggravated battery, second-degree battery, simple battery, public intimidation, carnal knowledge of a juvenile, he was a sex offender, domestic violence, burglary of inhibited dwelling place, received stolen rings, burglary of inhibited dwelling place, domestic abuse with battery, resisting an officer, drug possession, illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession, failure to register as a sex offender. I mean, you can keep on going. That bad things happen.

05:27 But it wasn't like this was some innocent guy just selling CDs. I think we could at least agree on that. And until we have any other information, if there's any other, you know, if there's any other information from police cameras, etc., it's just speculation, but it really was taken to an extreme. And the same goes for the guy in Louisiana. Sorry? I'm sorry, you were the guy? The guy in Louisiana. He was not pulled over for a broken taillight. We have we have off audio of police radio.

06:04 where they were saying, okay, there was just a robbery at a convenience store, they stole cash and boxes of Newports, and there's closed-circuit TV video, and the description fits the guy in the car. Dreadlocks, facial hair, and a very broad nose, which of course immediately will sound like it's racist, but hey, you know, the cops are trying to find somebody. They pull him over, And all we hear is, it was just a broken taillight and he shot him. If you look at the video, zoomed in in hand, CSI style, you can see his pistol, same pistol in the robbery video, is resting on his thigh underneath his shirt. So again, we don't know exactly, but I'll tell you one thing. I was pulled over in 1987 by the cops in New Jersey.

06:53 I was driving, Patricia had, we brought a Porsche 911 from Holland and it was very hard to get this thing legal because you know they had to have like air conditioning ducts done differently so it was kind of grey import. and I had a temporary license to get pulled over and it's just about dusk, you know, it's not it's still light enough and the cop come up to my window he says okay and you know what's going on with this what's what's up with the template and I said oh let me just show you I reach behind with my right hand and reach behind my chair to get my briefcase I got a gun in my face just slow down slow down slow down and I get it and this was 87 and I'm a white guy I just want to point out although jury is out

07:36 So, a little bit of caution I think is warranted when it comes to what, you know, we even, we had the president, we had, shoot, even the mayor of, here we go, where's the, yeah, Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton right after the shooting. Terrible tragedy has befallen the people of Minnesota, especially The family and friends of Orlando Castile and I express on behalf of all decent-minded Minnesotans, which is just about everyone, our deepest condolences, our shock and our horror at what transpired last night. All the facts aren't known, but from the evidence that's been presented, the video that was taken, nobody should be shot and killed in Minnesota for a traffic taillight.

08:31 being out of function. Nobody should be shot and killed while they're still in their car without a very, very different kind of response. So I'm I'm heartbroken for Minnesota because I've heard in the last few hours from very distinguished African-American men and women who have recounted to me how they've been pulled over, singled out, and treated very differently because of their race from how white Minnesotans expect to be covered. Would this have happened if those passengers, the driver and the passenger were white? I don't think it would have. I find this very, very precarious what the mayor is doing. He even says, I don't have all the information, but if the people were white, it wouldn't have happened. He doesn't have that information. Here's the police scanner audio. I'm going to stop a car. I'm going to check my knees. I have reason to pull it over. The two occupants.

09:25 Just looked like people that were involved in a robbery. The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just because of the white set nose. Shots fired. Larpenter and Frye. Copy, you just heard it? You just heard the shots fired? They're all three. Shots fired. Copy, shots fired, Larpenter and Frye. Do you need medics? Medics call three. Copy, medics call three to Larpenter and Frye. One adult female. Alright, so there you go. I was not for a broken taillight and they identified that the license plate correctly. So possibly all kinds of stuff could be possible, but I believe

10:04 What's really dangerous is how these videos are being taken for absolute fact and you just I mean how many times do we have to look at face bag and Twitter and Illusion like what color is the dress? There's a lot of shit. You can't see in a video particularly Almost every video. Oh, they're shooting it goes to the ground black. You don't see it your brain starts filling in these details so we just have to be very very careful when immediately saying the cops are racist and You just have to be careful. There's something else going on, I can tell you that, but we'll get to the conclusions later. Well, let's play a clip. I got my Minnesota shooting streaming video clip. And the officer just shot him in his arm. The police officer pointing his gun into the car. Reynolds calm and clear. Her young daughter in the backseat. Waiting for a back... I will, sir. No worries. I will. Also, her daughter was not in the backseat at the time of the video.

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

Diamond Reynolds Facebook Live Stream and GoFundMe Campaigns

The hosts critique the behavior of Diamond Reynolds during her Facebook Live stream following the shooting of Philando Castile. They note her calm demeanor and the subsequent creation of multiple GoFundMe accounts that raised approximately half a million dollars. A listener provides background information on Castile, noting he was a well-liked cafeteria supervisor with a permit to carry a weapon.

diamond reynolds· philando castile· facebook live· gofundme· minnesota

11:00 There's no evidence of that. The cops had already taken the kid out of the car. So maybe while the guy was shot, but at that point, no. He just shot his arm off. We got pulled over on Larpiner. I told him not to reach for it! I told him to get his head open! You told him to get his ID, sir, his driver's license. Oh my God, please don't tell me he's dead. Okay, a couple of things I noticed. One is the cop sounds exactly like Chris Farley, which takes a lot away from this whole thing. Oh man, it does. Thanks for lightening the mood. Yeah. The woman is obviously auditioning for something. She did break up later. I think it was sincere. But she was like so cool and collected while she's making this video. She thought she was a TV personality. And she's already, there are now three GoFundMes that she started apparently. Three different ones. About half a million dollars now collected. She's posting odd things on her social media accounts.

12:07 Like, you know, she didn't really care about him anyway. It's all about me now. I am a luscious diamond. I mean, who knows who's writing what? But, you know, not the cop and not her are to be taken as evidence. It's just not evidence. And this is exactly what the mayor called it. We see evidence of what happened. Now you saw a Facebook live stream, which should make Facebook happy. Finally they've got... Oh yeah, they finally got some attention. Let me read a note I got from one of our... Periscope was really taking their lunch there with the live streaming. It's screwed on this deal. It's from one of our producers and he's in the area. He says, I wanted to thank you guys for the amazing show you guys put on. Let you know I've been throwing combos

12:52 at people since I started listening. One more on a serious note, I want to include some background information regards to the black man who was shot this past week in Minnesota regardless of how the media spins anything regarding him. Here are a few facts I can present because my wife was friends with him and went to high school to the high school prom. Ah, okay. So there you have that. All right. He says he was the cafeteria supervisor at my two daughter's school, JJ Hill Montessori in St. Paul. He never, no I'm sorry, he did have a permit to carry a weapon. He was well known and liked by families and all students, never gang affiliated, just another black man like myself where racial profiling led to its unnatural but expected conclusion. Generalizing of course. Feel free to hit me back for more information, blah, blah, blah, I keep up the awesome work. You know, I was thinking about this. In both these instances,

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Second Amendment Rights and the Black Community

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry discuss the subtext of recent shootings regarding black men and firearm ownership. They reference Tavis Smiley's past comments on why the black community should appreciate the Second Amendment. The hosts suggest a political narrative is being pushed to disarm the black population while ignoring black-on-black violence in cities like Chicago.

tavis smiley· second amendment· gun control· barack obama· chicago violence

13:47 And it always harkens back to Tavis Smiley saying it's crazy for black people not to appreciate the second amendment. If you listen to like these guys in Congress that old fart that's been there forever. John Lewis? Lewis and these other guys they go on and on about gun control and this is Obama immediately spun this into gun control. After Dallas. Yeah. I had to do it on these two things but what we got the message we got here is black men should not and I don't know if this has anything to do with the thing anything But it seems to me that there was a subtext here that was black men should not have weapons. They should not carry a gun. Both of these guys got in trouble. And the first one in Baton Rouge in particular was somebody shouting, he's got a gun. And the other one is that he's got, the other one made a point that he had a gun. And the second guy, the woman made a point, he has a right to this gun. He's got a gun, he's got a license. And as an aside,

14:50 There's no evidence he had a concealed permit, according to law enforcement. Okay, one way or the other, I think that's beside the message I think they're trying to say. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Black men should not be armed. Yeah, everyone should be able to be armed if they choose. Yes, of course, there's a message going on and because the black community if you think of what to have I'm still disturbed. Do we have this? Do we have this clip of Smiley? It's around look for Tavis smiley's probably on there on your list is that would be I'm sure I put his name on there. Yeah. He made this point. He was talking with big Mike, I think at the time and

15:32 I've always been kind of, I've always thought about this clip where Smiley says this because it goes against the entire grain of the Democrat Party that they should disarm people and everybody. In fact, one of these guys was Affleck or one of those two guys. I don't know. I had actually had a clip of it some time ago. I never used it, which he says that the country should be disarmed Yeah, that sounds like Affleck. You should just take everyone's guns. And I'm very concerned about the gun emphasis on these two situations. And it was all subtext, but it was very strong on both of these situations. He's got a gun, and somebody yells he's got a gun. I never heard that, but somebody said they yell he's got a gun. It was actually one of the cops who yelled that. They were on top of him. He says, gun, gun, gun.

16:28 It was just seems to me that there's too much emphasis put in these storylines about the black man with the gun. Do you believe the idea is to disarm the black population first? Yeah, yeah. Yes, indeed. I do believe that. And the guy in Dallas. They're killing each other. Black on black doesn't even come up in the conversation. I think there were 30 shoot people shot in Chicago this weekend or 30. That was pretty average. I think they're up to six, 700 people already. It's insane. It's black on black violence. Black shooting blacks. Yeah.

17:05 They don't talk about that because it doesn't get any attention. Nobody cares apparently, except even the blacks I guess. But yeah, let's disarm the blacks. You can't find the Tavis Smiley clip? No, well there's a couple of them but I have no idea. I don't see it with Big Mike maybe? Maybe that's how I can find it. Maybe it was Big Mike. Play the Big Mike clip. I don't know. It's not like... This is when you mislabel stuff. This is when we run into trouble. When? Huh? I always mislabel. Sometimes I correct them, but I can't find it. It's alright. Oh, that's too bad. I'll dig it up and we'll play in a future show. But anyway, I found that subtext to be disturbing. It's entirely disturbing. I concur. Okay, so now we have Dallas. And well, since we already talked about it, let me play

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

Barack Obama and Loretta Lynch Respond to Dallas

President Barack Obama delivers a statement from Warsaw regarding racial disparities and the need for gun control following the Dallas police shootings. Attorney General Loretta Lynch announces civil rights investigations into the Louisiana and Minnesota incidents. The hosts comment on the physical appearance and apparent stress levels of Lynch and FBI Director James Comey.

barack obama· loretta lynch· warsaw· dallas shooting· james comey· gun legislation

18:03 President Obama's response when he was in Warsaw. I will have more to say about this as the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that even as yesterday I spoke about need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system, I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. i'll tell you what's at sixty percent so they say uh... the vast majority of the night so it just in general s i think it's just the vast majority i don't know so indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive those officers who do their job each and every day who kind of a creepy emphasis protecting us and protecting our communities today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us we also know that when people

19:02 are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. And in the days ahead we're going to have to consider those realities as well. Yes. So guns, we'll have to consider those realities. Here is Loretta Lynch. Peaceful protest that was planned in Dallas last night was organized in response to the tragic deaths of Alton Sterling in Louisiana and Philando Castile in Minnesota. Now we've opened a civil rights investigation in Louisiana and we're providing assistance to local authorities in Minnesota who are leading the investigation there. And today we are feeling the devastating loss of Dallas area Rapid Transit Officer Brent Thompson and four other fallen officers whose names remain unreleased as we await notification to all of the families. I have an issue and I heard this because I was of course watching as much as possible throughout the past couple of days.

19:54 When a citizen gets killed, especially if it's a black citizen, it's always murder. When cops get murdered, he's fallen. It's starting to annoy me. Oh yes, the officers have fallen. No, they were murdered. They were killed. They were shot in the line of duty. Come up with something else. That and I wonder why she pre-emphasized the dark guy. Debt rapid transit only because she could release his name. It didn't have the other names I believe By the way, I don't want to change the subject at all, but has she gained like oh my goodness Yeah, I saw her walking away from the lectern and yeah, I

20:30 Yeah. She's, that means, that says to me that she is, uh, she's very unhappy. Yeah, I think she's unhappy. She looks unhappy. Her face looks, you don't have to look at anything, her face looks unhappy. And quite honestly, look at what's going on in her department. Yeah, I'd be pretty unhappy. And I'll say the same, I won't say that Comey looks unhappy, but Comey looks like he hasn't slept in a month. I mean, he's always had bags under his eyes. He hasn't, I'm sure he hasn't. Alright, here's another bit from Lynch, and this of course is the familiar talking point. The frequency with which they use them is very interesting.

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

Dallas Police Department Staffing Crisis and Low Morale

The Dallas Police Department faces a significant retention crisis with over 40 officers quitting in a single month due to low morale and uncompetitive pay. Chief David Brown cites higher salaries in surrounding areas like Fort Worth as a primary reason for the exodus. The hosts discuss the "overtime scam" where underpaid officers rely on extra shifts to make a living wage.

dallas police department· david brown· officer retention· police salaries· overtime scam

21:28 That's interesting. You're right to me now before we go into the actual events of Dallas, of course I live kind of in the area. I mean, it's not next door. It's just up the road Two months ago. There were a lot of reports and I pulled one out just so we could understand the vibe within DPD this officer asked that we not identify him He joins more than 40 officers who quit just this month. I'm gonna go to a city that respects its officers and I'm going to go to a city that will appreciate me and my skill set. The officer has worked at DPD for 10 years, and that is what is alarming. The department is not just losing young officers, but veterans and detectives who could be future leaders. Many tell News 8 low morale is plaguing the department under the leadership of Chief David Brown. The big joke is that we talk about how many years you have left on the department. It's like a prison sentence. You walk through, I've got two more years or I've only got nine left.

22:24 and that kind of thing just wears on. The chief addressed the issue Monday at a City Council public safety meeting. The next slide shows our officers are not being retained and they're leaving because in the area salaries are much much higher. Some nearby cities, including Fort Worth, are paying officers 10 to $15,000 more a year. Dallas starting pay is about $45,000. But the officer we talked to says he's leaving because he feels he is no longer effective in Dallas. He says the workload, hours and low pay aren't worth it. Sources say so many officers are leaving the department that the personnel office can't process the paperwork quickly enough, and they're telling officers they have to wait.

23:06 to quit. DPD does have a serious issue on its hands. It has to pay millions of dollars in overtime to keep enough officers on the streets. The chief has recently authorized patrol officers to work up to 16 hours a day, eight hours before or eight hours after their shifts. Things not so good in Dallas. Yeah, this overtime scam has got to be stopped in all these police departments. What do you mean? Oh, they create the police themselves create incidents so they can work overtime. They need the money. I don't blame them. Yeah, it's better than stealing it. Yeah. And they, you know, they go out and get this extra cash to get time and a half or whatever it is, but they should just pay more money to begin with. So they don't have to do that. They're underpaid if it's $45,000 a year. That's like, that's like nothing in Dallas.

23:59 No, you can't live in Dallas on 45 grand a year. No. And you're a cop? That's no good. And you're dodging bullets. So to me, most interesting, of course, is how the media is covering everything. And you've gotten past the incredibly annoying use of Facebook video, unvetted, and it's just, it's out there. I don't care how many times you can show that the killed, these guys who were killed, you know, that they were, if they were crooks, if they had illegal weapons, it doesn't matter. None of that matters because everyone has this now burned into their brain and it'll just always be white cops killing black men.

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

Media Coverage of Dallas and Brian Williams Commentary

Brian Williams returns to MSNBC to cover the Dallas shootings, drawing parallels between the event and the 1963 assassination of John F. Kennedy. The hosts criticize Williams' commentary as pompous and examine the shifting media narrative regarding the number of suspects involved in the attack. Early reports fluctuated between one and four shooters before settling on a lone gunman.

brian williams· msnbc· dallas· john f. kennedy· media bias

24:44 Brian Williams, who of course, man is this guy lucky after he lied and got fired and was brought back to MSNBC to do the live events. I mean it's almost like he's got the terrorist on his payroll. He's on the air all the time now. He must be so happy. But he is still the same asshole. Well, he didn't stop. He kept going with it.

25:35 has struggled mightily since 1963 to be associated with something other than gun violence, something other than the murder of our former president John F. Kennedy. I mean, this is 52 years ago. where people of a certain age is really rough and Dallas has worked all these 52 years to get above that. Wow, Brian. Oh, do it one more time for us. I've been saying all night for those of us who are, as they say, a certain age, um, Dallas, Texas entered our psyche. Um, at least if you don't, if you're not from there, uh, because of what happened in November of 1963, it has since then spent decades, um,

26:19 getting beyond that. What a pompous twat. Geez, he really upset you. Yeah, well, I watched all these different coverages and I have to say Fox does the best job. Fox did pretty well. I like the facilities MSNBC has just because they have the NBC. They've got all the... They got NBC behind them. Yeah, they got a lot of gear. The best overall when it all was finished and it tried to wrap, CBS ended up with the best footage. I mean they had some stunning footage. I don't know where they got some of it but it was on the streets. This is a local CBS report which I pulled specifically because it just shows you what happens in these confusing times. But what is reported? Well Anne Marie, some breaking news now. We're learning that the fourth suspect, the man who was holed up inside a

27:09 parking garage not too far from where we are has now died of in self inflicted gunshot wound. He had apparently been exchanging gunfire with officers but we're learning that he has now died from a self inflicted gunshot wound. As you mentioned the gunfire erupted in downtown Dallas with no warning turning this place into a war zone and still very much resembling one right now. Officials saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many officers as possible. Okay, so we went from one shooter to four. No, no, no, no, you're wrong. It started with two. Sorry, I thought it actually started, there was like three, they're triangulating. No, no, they were triangulating, but there were two. There were two guys triangulated, because I caught the earlier reports. That was the beginning. Then

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

Micah Xavier Johnson and the 7-7 Dallas Attack

The hosts analyze the profile of Micah Xavier Johnson, the identified Dallas shooter who claimed he wanted to kill white police officers. They question the rapid identification of Johnson and the media's use of the name "Micah X" as an intentional callback to Malcolm X. The discussion touches on the removal of Johnson's social media profiles as a potential loss of evidence.

micah xavier johnson· dallas· black lives matter· malcolm x· heavy.com

27:59 The sky's the limit. I took notes and I wrote down a couple things and stop me or we'll just talk about things. So here there are a lot of things very troubling. I have some material to back this up. First of all, the timing. Do we have a clip or something we can just like a backgrounder? No, no, no, but no, this is not a backgrounder. This is Adam's backgrounder of shit that's crazy. I'm sorry. Go just continue. Okay, first of all we have the timing of it all. According to what we've been told, Johnson, Micah Xavier Johnson said, I'm here to kill white cops and it's all because of Louisiana and Minnesota.

28:41 Yeah, who did he tell this to? To the negotiators and they told it to the press I presume, but we never really heard any of that. Well, the way it seemed to me that he told it to the negotiators, they told it to the chief because he wasn't there and then the chief told it to the press. Was this recorded? You know, I'd love to have that recording. I don't think it was. Okay, so but that timing and we've heard all this was very well planned and this was you know meticulously planned so seems like not a lot of time in between those two events in this one. Of course it happened on 7-7 which is always a mystical date and there's always weird things happening. Johnson

29:23 What we've been shown is he had a lot of Black Lives Matter, Black Power imagery on his social media profiles. I don't know if that is really his, you know, because of course it was taken down. Who knows what's going on, but that... Why did they take these things down? I don't understand. Let's look at the logic of this. There's a lot of the... I know what we're going to talk about on this event is the logic. Well, we're gonna get to that. It's illogical, but let's talk about this one piece of logic which is taking down... the guy's... some guy does something and now he's infamous and he has a web... he has a Facebook page.

30:02 Why does Facebook take it down? Maybe people would like to see what he put up on this Facebook page. There's not really a lot of propaganda that's going to change anybody's mind about anything because we already know what he did. And it would give Facebook a crapload of page views. If they were smart. If they were smart, why wouldn't they leave it up? Because they're going to get millions and millions and millions of page views and attention to Facebook. What are they thinking? Why are they doing this? I also think it's tampering with evidence. I think that should be left alone for other reasons. Just because you're taking it down. I think there's a legal reason to have that not happen. Absolutely. That's a great, that's a better argument than my mercantile argument. But it's the same thing.

30:47 So, but again, we don't know if this really was his profile, but a lot says Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, it's all about Black Lives Matter. And I have a point for saying this. Then, and this was really very subtle, I think it was heavy.com that did it first and they later went back and changed it. I have both versions in the show notes, 841.noagendanotes.com. Their headline was, Micah X. saying that Micah X. Johnson was the perpetrator, which of course is an easy, easy call back to Malcolm X. I don't think that was by accident. That seemed very intentional to me. They went back and forth. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And the fact that, yeah, anyone who pulled that cheap trick should be fired. Yeah.

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Dallas Police Use of Bomb Disposal Robot

Dallas authorities utilized a bomb disposal robot armed with C4 explosives to kill Micah Xavier Johnson, an unprecedented move in domestic policing. Mayor Mike Rawlings confirmed the tactic, though the hosts express skepticism regarding the official account and the lack of non-lethal alternatives like gas or flashbangs. They argue the use of explosives effectively bypassed due process and destroyed potential evidence.

c4· bomb robot· dallas police· mike rawlings· drone strike· due process

31:38 But you know we have the black power fist and all that stuff so you know it's making black lives matter look very very bad which may be intentional. Now we get to the part that is odd for a couple of reasons. Quick clip to set it up. The same automated robot equipment to detonate and defuse bombs was used to place C4 in place and to detonate that. He had a choice to come out and we would not harm him or stay in and we would. He picked the latter. Now, here is my first problem.

32:17 The ID of the shooter, who by the way was not called a lone wolf, no it was a lone shooter now, I don't know, what happened to lone wolf? Well they also, well lone wolf is only going to be associated with terrorists. And white people. I think that you will see a black terrorist and they will call him a lone wolf. Alright, we'll wait for that. But how can you ID a guy and hand out his name so quickly in the timeline after you have detonated him? blown him to smithereens, now there's a cup. Well, first of all... When you detonate the guy, you know, that's uh... That's, that's, first of all...

32:58 I want to interrupt and mention that the Dallas Police Department has a Twitter feed. You should, I think if you follow my feed, you'll find me retweeting this. They have a Twitter feed that is quite educational and I should probably open it up and read some of the tweets. But generally speaking, they tell people to stop reading Twitter and just read their feed because the people are getting bad information in general. And then they cite a bunch of these. And they also tell people to get the hell away from their offices. The robot with the bomb is told a number of different ways. I've never seen two recollections of what happened that are identical. One is that I never heard the C4 one before. I heard it was a bomb or a little bomb. They left the bomb and they blew it up. Well, that's the mayor.

33:44 The other one was that there was no bomb at all. The thing was, for all practical purposes, was holding a shotgun shell or a series of them and they just shot him with a slug. Now if they did that, which Somebody came up and they had a copy of the robot that was on one of these networks and they're showing this thing and here's the shotgun, it's a little bitty gun, shotgun. A little shotgun. Well, a lot of tech companies popped up promoting their shit, which I found very disgusting and disturbing. Like, look, we've got robots that do that, yeah, it's great, it's great. Yeah, it's always reminded me of Robocop kept coming by. But here's the problem. I don't think they blew him up with C4. That's what the mayor of Dallas said. He's full of it. Okay. The mayor of Dallas, by the way, says we're on that. I have a clip, a couple of clips of this character. All right. He's like a loud mouth. Listen to the

34:38 Well, obviously he's at odds with the Dallas Police Department. There's a lot of problems in Dallas when it comes to law enforcement and I do put the mayor squarely in the middle of that. What you got? Well, let's see what do we have. Well, here's one. This is about the mayor because otherwise I want to power on because I... No, no, I got to get these out of here. You're not... you're moving along very nicely. Okay. Good gear, diplomat. What the hell's the mayor thing? I know, you're bringing me to a screeching halt. CBS funny quote from here. This is a classic. Okay, here we go. The gays in the Washington newsroom, Jeff, thank you. Now joining us is the mayor of... Did he say the gays in the Washington newsroom? You know, when I pulled this clip and I listened to it, he says the gays in the Washington newsroom.

35:22 I heard that too and I said, what? And I didn't have the bigger clip so I couldn't figure out what he's talking about. Well, if you're looking for him, they're in the Washington newsroom. The gays in the Washington newsroom, Jeff, thank you. Now joining... Maybe he said the guys, but it just came out as the gays. We got to listen to it over and over. And by the way, it's The Gaze, which I think is even more interesting. The Gaze in the Washington newsroom. Jeff, thank you. Now joining us is the mayor of Dallas, Mike Rawlings. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Can you tell us anything about the police officers who are still in the hospital? The ones that just were wounded are doing well. Most of them have left. In fact, I think we're pretty close to getting rid of all of them at the hospital.

36:12 What kind of, now don't you say that you were pretty close to having them all released? Discharged or getting rid of them. We're getting rid of them. I think that shows his disdain for the police force in general. Maybe it's subliminal. I think it was subconscious, yeah. We've almost gotten rid of all of them. Anyway, I just thought that was necessary. Very good. Onward. Okay, so now if let's just say let's just hold it as true that there was C4 and they detonated the guy. This makes a couple of things very difficult to prove, the first thing would be it's very possible that a dead corpse was detonated and that other people who were responsible got away. We really don't know. Once you blow someone up, whether it's true or not, they're not going to say, oh, we didn't blow up that bad, look, here he is. No, it's going to be very hard, well, also to ask questions, of course. It's actually not a bad idea. You put a corpse in there. Yeah.

37:13 And you put some C4 on the corpse and you blow him up and you have this cock and bull story about the robot. Oh, he had a robot come in and the robot did this. And usually, I was just asking, usually when they bring the robot out, we've seen the robot. We see the robot all the time. I didn't see any robot. I didn't hear any big explosion. They didn't show a robot? No, usually the robot is shown. The robot, when the robot comes out... There's an explosion in the events at some part of the timeline, so I'm not sure what that's about. Okay, well I haven't... But I like the idea, and here's what I'm always asking when I see one of these things. Why can't they hit him with a stun gun, gas, gas him?

37:56 Use the dart, those darts they use on animals that are escaped. Because when the dart hits you, the tranquilizer dart, when it hits you, it immediately, you can pull it out, but it's already injected. I know why, because the public relations department went, oh man, you can't not shoot a gorilla with a dart and shoot the black man with a dart. You can't do that. It'll be a PR nightmare. I guarantee you. I'd rather have him shot with a dart. Well of course. And let the PR nightmare take place. Of course. Then blowing him to smithereens. This whole thing makes no sense whatsoever. They had him cornered. They know where he was. John, it only... They could gas him. It only makes sense if they want... if this was a destruction of evidence no matter what. As far as I know it's unprecedented. Strangely a lot of people emailed me and said drone strike, drone strike. But no, it really wasn't. I really don't think it was a drone strike.

38:50 But it's the same thing. There's no difference if you're just going to go blow a guy up without due process. I find that also to be legally challenging because you're right, there are many ways that I think he could have been neutralized. And let's go back and let's think a minute about the things that we've been propagandizing in this country over the last decade or two. New police strategies. Oh, they got these machines that make these sounds that cripple you is high frequency noises low-frequency noises gobs of goo They shoot this goo on you and you can't move you're stuck to the wall and heat heat radar heat devices that heat devices up and makes your balls burn all sorts of things would know C4 Yeah

CHAPTER 10 / 37 Discussion

DeRay McKesson Arrest and Summer of Chaos Leaks

Black Lives Matter activist DeRay McKesson was arrested in Louisiana following a hack of his social media accounts that allegedly revealed plans for a "Summer of Chaos." Leaked messages suggest a coordinated effort to disrupt the Republican National Convention in Cleveland to derail Donald Trump's candidacy. The hosts discuss the role of George Soros in funding organizations tied to these protests.

deray mckesson· summer of chaos· george soros· cleveland· republican national convention

39:37 It's very, very disturbing, but not as disturbing as the following. So what we see now, and I am convinced that someone's stirring up the pot, and it could easily be Dallas Police Department, it could be the Department of Justice, or it could be someone else. Black Lives Matter co-founder DeRay McKesson. Now he was arrested yesterday at another demonstration in Louisiana, I believe. His Twitter and his email accounts were hacked a week ago and there's not been a lot of information about this but what has come out is

40:21 A number of conversations and email and text message exchanges, one of them being Samuel Sing-Yang-Gwe. And there's screenshots of these conversations in the Black Lives Matter co-founders email and Twitter accounts. I want to touch base with you about the summer of chaos. So far we have over 2,000 people being bused in from different cities, another 6,000 to 8,000 expected to drive into Cleveland for the convention. They will not be ready for the type of crowds we are bringing in and they will blame Trump for it, especially if we shut it down. The GOP will have to replace him at that point or we will continue the disruptions nationwide. I will pass along the info. Good work, Sam. You've never let us down. It's so important we stop Trump. He'll destroy everything we've worked so hard for and we can't trust Hillary." So this exchange, which is, you know, there's a lot of people have now

41:19 I copied this and retweeted it, you can find it pretty much everywhere. If true, we have a code name, Summer of Chaos. We have an organization or some organizers, which we know that the Soros, multiple Soros foundations have been giving money to non-governmental organizations, nonprofits who at least claim to work on behalf of Black Lives Matter. There's no like organization, it's just a hashtag. Now, the conspiracy theorists take this very far, which is funny. Do not watch any of the YouTubes that go as following.

41:56 Yeah, by the way, it's not just that the Democratic Convention, they're going to start, or the Republican Convention, they're going to start a big ruckus at the Democratic Convention, I guess maybe to get Bernie in or something, I don't know. But the conspiracy theories going around is, oh, then it'll be martial law and Obama will have to do a third term. I'm just saying that's the stupid part that comes out of it. I've heard that too, it's the dumbest thing ever. That's dumb. But I certainly believe that there are organizations who are going to create chaos at the conventions. That makes nothing but sense since they're not for Trump or Hillary. There is a meme in the progressive left because I had my version of the Obama bot dinner recently. Are you ready to do that now?

42:46 I don't know. I mean, I just will mention this. No, hold off on it. Hold off on it. Now let's finish this, but I'm going to say that there is a thought that is very prominent that Trump is going to be derailed at this event, at the convention. And they believe it so much that they put money on it. And so we'll continue that conversation later in the show. But I, This makes nothing but sense to me and I could see this sort of thing getting into the collective unconscious of these people. And so that's why, yeah, Trump's, we got to get rid of Trump, we got to do something about that. And I've got a clip here that kind of adds to this thesis, but continue so you can wrap it so I can play the clip. Okay, well, so then I'm just going to wrap into, well, wrap up what?

43:33 The Summer of Chaos, which is aimed at Trump, derailing Trump. It's aimed at Trump, but also at Hillary. Yeah, they don't want her but if the Republicans can get somebody in who they like or for whatever reason. So but one of the stitches. Everything points to this, you know, maybe not Dallas specifically as in, you know, the people who are sending these text messages and busing in thousands of people. You know, they may not be directly responsible for what happened, but it could be a part of it. You have and we of course we know here's a couple of other things. We know nothing about Mike Xavier Johnson, very very little. Law enforcement has not once since we, oh we may have more shooters, we don't know what's going on, not once have I heard them say if you see something say something. If you have information come forward. Someone may have said it every other event they're always saying that. Why not now?

CHAPTER 11 / 37 Discussion

Micah Johnson Military Background and Weaponry

Micah Xavier Johnson's background as an Army Reserve veteran who served in Afghanistan is detailed following a search of his Mesquite, Texas home. Authorities recovered bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, and a journal of combat tactics. The hosts clarify that the weapon used was likely a modified SKS rifle rather than an AR-15, contradicting some initial media reports.

micah xavier johnson· army reserve· sks rifle· mesquite texas· loretta lynch

44:33 Here, play the ABC Johnson background. This is all anyone could collect and this is done by Pierre, the black investigative guy at ABC who's actually pretty talented. Johnson's Facebook page reveals some of that rage against police. He liked the page which said, kill everything blue that moves. Now how did he get a hold of the Facebook page? How do you get a hold of him? This is my point. Kill everything blue that moves. Police say Johnson embraced the radical form of Afrocentrism. And law enforcement sources tell ABC News he was armed for his shooting spree with an assault rifle and two handguns. Johnson served in the Army Reserve from 2009 to 2015, doing a tour in Afghanistan. Today when police searched Johnson's home in Mesquite, Texas,

45:17 They say they found bomb making materials, ballistic vests, rifles and a personal journal for combat tactics. This guy lived around the corner from me and was willing to take people lives that he didn't even know. You know, it is scary. But Johnson's sister took to Facebook today to defend her brother, writing, The news will say what they think, but those who knew him know this wasn't like him. I always find it hard. Yeah. I was gonna say the one thing that's always annoying is they find some black woman who comes and says he's shoot people doesn't even know as if it was okay to shoot people he did know and she was just one of the you know as one of these dummies off good point put her in there good point play their role of dumb Texan hey hey easy does it so it's very possible that

46:07 There are people who are definitely making trouble and doing it on purpose. And when you have a military guy who goes, I guess, the military version of postal, remember those days, you really have to think about this. I mean, there's also insinuation that, you know, they, vets are crazy. They shouldn't. And you heard Loretta Lynch, but would not, you know, what was her exact quote? It was, we must take a hard look at the ease with which wrongdoers get their hands on deadly weapons. And from everything I've heard from our resident experts here at the NOAA Gender Show, it was not an AR-15, but it's a sharpshooter, a modified sharpshooter, Russian SK, I think. You can get silencers for these weapons? For those rifles? Yeah.

46:57 You can, and there's a number of places you can get them. And it seems to me, and I'm not encouraging this idea, obviously I don't want to, but why would you bring such a loud muzzle sounding weapon and shoot it in between all those buildings in Dallas? If you had a silencer you could actually accomplish something if you want, what you claim to want to do. I think there's something this whole thing stinks. It does. It stinks a lot. It stinks a lot. It stinks. The guy, the dead guy getting blown to smithereens stinks. The robot stinks. What he said, which we have no evidence that he said this at all, stinks. Yeah, it does.

CHAPTER 12 / 37 Discussion

Racial Politics and the Economic Roots of Unrest

The hosts argue that while the media focuses on race, the underlying issue driving national unrest is systemic poverty and the lack of economic opportunity. They revisit the 2009 Henry Louis Gates Jr. arrest as a turning point in the Obama administration's handling of racial issues. The discussion posits that both black and white poor communities were victims of the 2008 real estate and banking scams.

don lemon· cedric richmond· poverty· real estate scam· henry louis gates jr

47:39 Now, so the implication to the public is Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization. That is the implication that's given. And it's not a... I never got that. Oh, well, okay. There's a lot going on on the networks about just this. Let's start with... All I heard in the West Coast, what I heard out here, I mean don't forget where I am, all I heard was a peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, and that was the word associated with Black Lives Matter, was peaceful. The demonstration was peaceful but the implication with this guy's facebag page all of a sudden being available to the media is Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, that's all I heard.

48:23 But of course I stay up late and I see all the Don Lemon who keeps coming on there. I am talking to you as a black man. Thanks for the memo. I'm getting sick and tired of Don Lemon. Thanks for the memo, Don. I'm speaking to you as a black man. Don Lemon is wearing a little too much glittery makeup. He had this glittery makeup on, it was like he's just come back from a parade or something. He's got it back off. Here's Democratic congressman, what is his name, from Louisiana, Richmond. And this is an interesting statement. Today I stand here speaking. And he is black American, I should point out. Today I stand here speaking.

49:08 And I would have to say today is probably the angriest I've ever been. while addressing the public and the media. And I share the anger of our young kids. When we look at this Congress, we can do nothing but conclude that they are co-conspirators in the devaluation of the lives of men and women of color. And that the systematic devaluation from mass incarceration to the lack of investment in communities show that we have little faith or concern about their futures. And from coming from someone who's a member of the Democratic Party, he's absolutely right. This is not necessarily racial hate. This is a community that mainly through democratic policies, just look at who's running a lot. Well, Dallas may be different, but look at a lot of the problems we have with our inner cities, and it's because of the policies. So he's absolutely right to call Congress co-conspirators.

50:09 But it's not just black, it's Mexican, it's Chinese, Asian, whatever it is. Any color other than white, the statistics show a little different. But these poor people who are being lied about the job market and lied to about the economy, they have nothing to do. They have no future. And that is definitely... They were also lied about... Also, the big lie which has caused a lot of these problems that Obama's inherited and has done nothing about was the real estate market. The entire thing was a giant scam and it was mostly aimed at poor people that couldn't really afford to take these loans out and they were lied about. And I always felt bad about the, you know, people saying, well, they took out this stupid loan and so they, and now they're bitching and moaning and they want to get bailed out. Of course, they did bail out the banks who gave the stupid loans, but that's another story. And it was a scam. It was a scam from the get-go.

51:07 This whole... And it was aimed at poor people of all sorts. White, black, doesn't make any difference. I was trying to think, you know, when... Not all of this, of course, started when Obama became president, but... I believe that this started with the professor, what's his name? Professor Gates, you recall that he was trying to get into his house and he was mistaken for a burglar and the cops arrested him. And what happened is, you know, the president, you know, you know, said, oh, this is crazy. What's going on? This is an upstanding citizen. It's just because of the color of his skin. Then the law enforcement officer had to have, you know, had to have a beer with the

51:50 with Joe Biden in the Rose Garden, you remember that? Yeah, of course I remember. A lot of this started there, I believe. So now we have a familiar name, Cheryl Ifill. And you will recognize that name, of course, because she is the cousin of Gwen Ifill. the hagiographer for President Obama. She is with the NAACP and here she is speaking with Brian Williams about Black Lives Matters and what they are and what they aren't. But also because they stand to potentially hijack the conversation that we need to be having about how to do precisely what the chief of police, Dallas chief of police David Brown, told us we have to do. He said we must stop

CHAPTER 13 / 37 Discussion

Angela Rye and the Rhetoric of Rogue Cops

CNN commentator Angela Rye sparks controversy by claiming that "rogue cops shoot black people for sport" during a televised debate. The hosts criticize this rhetoric as inflammatory and dangerous, contrasting it with the NAACP's official stance that Black Lives Matter is not anti-police. They examine how such statements contribute to the divisiveness between law enforcement and the communities they serve.

angela rye· cnn· nancp· cheryl ifill· police brutality

51:07 This whole... And it was aimed at poor people of all sorts. White, black, doesn't make any difference. I was trying to think, you know, when... Not all of this, of course, started when Obama became president, but... I believe that this started with the professor, what's his name? Professor Gates, you recall that he was trying to get into his house and he was mistaken for a burglar and the cops arrested him. And what happened is, you know, the president, you know, you know, said, oh, this is crazy. What's going on? This is an upstanding citizen. It's just because of the color of his skin. Then the law enforcement officer had to have, you know, had to have a beer with the

51:50 with Joe Biden in the Rose Garden, you remember that? Yeah, of course I remember. A lot of this started there, I believe. So now we have a familiar name, Cheryl Ifill. And you will recognize that name, of course, because she is the cousin of Gwen Ifill. the hagiographer for President Obama. She is with the NAACP and here she is speaking with Brian Williams about Black Lives Matters and what they are and what they aren't. But also because they stand to potentially hijack the conversation that we need to be having about how to do precisely what the chief of police, Dallas chief of police David Brown, told us we have to do. He said we must stop

52:37 this divisiveness between police and the communities they serve. That's what the Black Lives Matter protests have been about. That's what the policing protests have been about. They have never been anti-police. They have been about ensuring that the lives of black people are protected and that there's proper policing in our communities. Now that's just not true. If you look at Reverend Jeff Hood, who was the organizer. Now this was the crazy guy with the with the scraggly kind of beard and the glasses. Did you see this guy anywhere? Jeff Hood? Reverend Jeff Hood? RevJeffHood.com? Yeah, he is the organizer. Very odd guy. Baptist pastor. And he is a member of

53:23 Let me see, or he receives funding from FOR, which is the Fellowship of Reconciliation. Pretty big group. Not a lot of money, two million a year maybe, but certainly enough to start organizing things. But if you look at his, if you look at what he was saying about this particular protest, it was very much against the police. And you can just look at the invitation on Facebook. Well, you can't, but it was very much about anti-police, in this case police brutality, but it was very focused on what this was supposed to be about. Now, Angela Rye, I guess she's a CNN political commentator and she used to be a congressional aide to the Congressional Black Caucus.

54:17 She was on CNN, this may be with Don Lemon, and she said something that, well, I think rightly set some people off. We're talking about an entity that is supposedly anti-police. I hope it's not Black Lives Matter because this is what Black Lives Matter said. They said, black activists have raised the call for an end to violence, not an escalation of it. Yesterday's attack was the result of the actions of a lone gunman to assign the actions of one person to an entire movement is dangerous and irresponsible. And to that end, I stand with them in solidarity. So what I think is very important is for you to understand just like there are rogue cops who shoot black people for sport, there are rogue protesters. That's the most offensive thing. Did you hear that? There are rogue cops who shoot black people for sport.

55:08 Which of course is correct use of an assault rifle for sport, for hunting, but come on! And she says that, and she comes back to it too. There are rogue protesters. That's the most offensive thing I've ever heard on this network. Well you know what's more offensive than that to me is that is you calling an organization that I stand behind. Angela, do you think it's inflammatory to say that police officers shoot black people for sport? No, I don't. I think that is exactly how I feel and when you look across this country at the data, when you look at why these folks in the streets are angry, we have been saying this for years, John. It's because of that rhetoric. You're the one fomenting the virus. These are facts. These are facts. These are facts. Sir, let me finish my point. Shame on you. Shame on you. Why don't you be quiet? Why don't you listen? You're so

55:55 So what I heard her say is we are not anti-police. But we're against those guys who shoot black people for sport. I mean, come on. This is why she even on. She shouldn't even be on television. This woman, she was, she's a CNN political commentator. She worked in Congress. CNN should get their act together. But this, but I have to say, this is thinking, this is the thinking.

CHAPTER 14 / 37 Discussion

Poverty and the Failure of the Obama Era

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry reflect on the unfulfilled promises of the "new era" heralded by Barack Obama's 2008 election. They argue that despite the symbolic victory, the administration has failed to address poverty in inner cities or improve the lives of the black community. The hosts suggest that the focus on race and guns serves as a distraction from failed economic policies.

barack obama· poverty· colin powell· john lewis· inner cities

56:46 Well, yes, it's the kind of thinking that is but it's like not thinking it's you might as well Just bring on the worst kind of conspiracy guys and let them ramble on about stuff. She's crazy Yeah, I know a lot of cops and every year I did the orphans and widows Christmas party for the New York City cops and And, and also a lot of firemen. And I'll tell you that, you know, there is at a certain, I think there is an us versus them mentality. When I hear, you know, my, my friends in East Orange, they're going to put out a fire, but they, you know, the fridge is booby trapped because there's drugs in it. You know, the roof is booby trapped, shit's blowing up. The EMT, we know, we know plenty of people who are EMT.

57:34 who listen to this show. They go to help people and the crowds are throwing rocks at them. There's a lot of problems, but I don't necessarily think it's... I mean, it's just... It's poverty. It's poverty. Right, and nobody's done a thing about poverty. Certainly not President Obama. In fact, yeah, no, especially Obama. In fact, the more I think about it, you know, Obama was, you know, they bring in him always, they did a retrospective on Obama in 2008 and all the, and they had all these guys come on on one of the networks and they had Colin Powell and all these different guys say, we all cried and we said this is the beginning of a new era and that guy, that congressman I keep complaining about,

58:18 Lewis he was up to say it's gonna be they had his speech It's gonna be a new era for this and that and the other thing and it was like not say this that and the other thing did you I did say that you can give you can call me out on it ring a bell because I it was a mistake I Was a huge thing did not say but thanks for saying for pointing out my stupidity. Sorry That's okay. I should have said it is dumb But this guy comes out and he makes all these... Meanwhile, Obama hasn't really done anything for the black community. He's done nothing for poverty. And he's done nothing for blacks. Except lie about the economy and jobs. Lie, lie, lie. And he lies and he lies. And I'm thinking, well, what...

58:57 You know, did he come in as a black man thinking that he was going to assuage the white man and not, you know, not do anything because it's gonna be obvious that he was gonna do stuff for blacks, maybe improve their lives? If you think, if you think that the problem is purely racially based, and I have no other reason to believe the president thinks that because that's all he's saying. It's race. It's race and guns. But it's not, I never hear about poverty. So while, Everyone was being pushed out there in Dallas and then people started looting a grocery store. And if you look at the video, and it's not just black, it's brown, it's white, it's all kinds of colors, it's poor people. And they have nothing, you know, black lives matter, you could throw in brown, you know, I'm sure brown people get killed too. But you can see that they have just this nothing to do.

CHAPTER 15 / 37 Discussion

Ambush Attacks on Police in Missouri and Minnesota

A Missouri police officer was critically wounded after being ambushed by Antonio Taylor during a routine traffic stop in Baldwin. The hosts note that this incident, along with a similar attack in Minnesota, received significantly less national media coverage than shootings involving white officers and black victims. They argue this selective reporting is intended to stir up racial tension.

antonio taylor· baldwin missouri· police ambush· media blackout

59:52 All their money goes into the cell phones and pickup trucks where you can spin the back wheels and burn rubber. And some shoes, good shoes. In fact, the shoe store was robbed as usual. Yes, that's what it is. And we can't ignore race, but the problem is poverty. Meanwhile, In Missouri, gee, did you hear this report? A Missouri police officer is in critical but stable condition after he was apparently ambushed during a traffic stop on Friday morning. Authorities have charged 31-year-old Antonio Taylor with three felonies, including assault and weapons charges, after he shot the police officer during a traffic stop in Baldwin, Missouri. The officer had pulled Taylor over for speeding, but as the officer returned to his squad car to process paperwork,

1:00:36 Police say Taylor opened fire with a semi-automatic handgun. Taylor fled before he was eventually captured a few miles away after a brief, brief foot chase with police. No, we didn't hear anything about that. And semi-automatic handgun? All handguns are semi-automatic, you douche. There are still revolvers you can buy. That's a semi-automatic? No, no, no. When they talk about a handgun, they're actually called automatics. It just means they cock themselves after they fire. It's not like a revolver where you have to pull the trigger to cock it and then it fires, you have to pull back the trigger and then pull the trigger itself or pull back the firing mechanism. I, by the way, I'm a revolver guy. I'm not a, I don't like autos. I like a revolver. Well, revolvers are more accurate. I like the Judge. The Judge is a revolver, yeah. Load that thing up. But of course, no news about that. No news about the exact same thing that happened

1:01:35 in Minneapolis, except the outcome was the cop got shot and is in critical condition. And they didn't hear anything about that. But meanwhile, there's a couple of these incidents. They take place. Yeah, of course. And then meanwhile, Minnesota was not. I heard about that one. There was another one that you didn't catch. There was two of them, actually. Well, you don't catch him because they're not plastered. They're not plastered all because, of course, racism only works one way. And this wasn't racism. The guy was a criminal. Minnesota yesterday after the Dallas shootings. It's another installment. Oops. Oops. And we got I screwed that up, didn't I? There we go. Yeah, yeah, you had it all set up. You're ranting and the whole thing is great. And then you played the. It just disappeared all of a sudden. Here we go.

1:02:22 Yeah, this is Minnesota yesterday after the shooting. How is that? It's not acceptable. It's not acceptable. No. Just not acceptable. Uh, so no, this is being, and the stirring up I think is the key element here, which is the Soros thing. Yeah. And oink, oink, bang, bang. We heard that for months and months and months. All right. Now someone took it to heart because the easiest Occam's razor is exactly what happened. The guy's pissed off. I hate the cops. Goes on a rampage. End of story. But there's too many nutty things in this entire episode.

CHAPTER 16 / 37 Discussion

Communist Tactics and the Bellicose Nature Narrative

The hosts discuss the ideological subversion of American colleges and the media by "millennial journalists" trained in progressive dogma. They analyze a CBS News editorial that used the word "bellicose" to subtly blame Donald Trump's rhetoric for the violence in Dallas. This is identified as a structured piece of propaganda designed to influence the collective unconscious.

george soros· open society institute· cbs news· donald trump· propaganda

1:03:21 And then particularly when you have this, you know, summer of chaos, communications, you have the traceable, demonstrable funding of Black Lives Matter organizations, related organizations, by Soros and the Open Society Institute foundations. You know, this, you know, the Russians always said if you really want to capture America, Was it the Russians? I think it was the Russians. Then you have to get into the colleges and indoctrinate the kids, and I think it's happened. That goes back to... that's not the Russians. It was some troublemakers. What's the guy's name? I think that guy... I'm saying Russians to point out commies. The communists. Yeah, the commies. The commies said that.

1:04:14 Well, they've done that. And I don't know if you've noticed, but all of these new correspondents on television, one after another, I'm seeing millennials. It's their time, of course. It's their time to come into their own and take over the airwaves. But they are ill. A lot of them are just really ill and, oh man, not talking a lot of sense like you just heard in a couple of these clips. That's the kind that is that is the new journalist of the future John that is a CNN journalist who's saying these that's why this is Thank goodness. All right. He's got juice now. We should do this another in story rap I want to scope what I was gonna go back to your jingle now go ahead. I'm following your lead I want to Going back to the when you when you hear the word the word bellicose

1:05:10 This is the second mayor clip from Dallas. Yeah, we've we've talked about this word I think this word comes out now What do you think I mean? What are you trained to think when you hear bellicose bellicose politician? He's bellicose He's bellicose bellicose bellicose. Who is that you're supposed to think that he's uh who's he who Trump? I would say Trump Bellica. You know already mad. He automatically thought Trump when I said the word bellicose. Yes. It was the training yeah, I Because it's so apparent. So we listen to this clip and you're gonna hear this is a guy who they, I can't remember this character's name, but everybody's seen his face. He's got a big round head. It looks like a pumpkin. And he, they tried to make him replace Andy Rooney. And he was not never good enough because he's too laid back and he's kind of not funny.

1:05:56 And so they ran his little editorial here on CBS, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. CBS does this because of the CIA guys. So they ran this guy and I just have a little bitty part of a clip and I want you to play this. This is the clip that is a funny quote, weird editorial where the word bellicose is used. And tell me what the message is. The black ones that are being lost just because our skin colors are black and white doesn't mean we can't speak in shades of gray. Or as the Dallas mayor put it, words matter. I think that we have a tone in this country right now that our bellicose nature comes through our mouths and we need to shut them and we need to listen. Good advice. I was completely disgusted by this so-called editorial because it was telling people in a subtext manner

1:06:56 Trump caused this yeah, Trump caused the situation in Dallas who was this guy? I don't have it. I'd have to dig his name up, but he's a guy that they he does editorials for CBS and he shows up on 60 minutes once in a while and he showed up on the news for some reason and he went on and on with this little gentle way of saying things and he throws out this thing at the end. Yeah, we need to shut our bellicose mouth. Shut your bellicose mouths and this won't happen you losers. And then it should be bellicose blabber mouth. We need alliteration in there. So I mean, to me it was a piece of propaganda that was disgusting. Very well structured. But it was like total, total crap. And... Where do you think this is going to go? What's going to happen now? That is of course the most interesting.

CHAPTER 17 / 37 Discussion

Dinner with the Obots and Convention Bets

John C. Dvorak recounts a dinner with "Obots" including New York Times reporter John Markoff and a professor from ASU. The progressive media professionals expressed absolute certainty that the Republican Party would block Donald Trump at the convention. Dvorak placed a $50 bet with them, confident that Trump will secure the nomination despite their high-fiving optimism.

john markoff· arizona state university· republican convention· donald trump· betting

1:07:43 This brings us to the My Obama Bot Dinner. It's another installment of... Dinner with the Obots! Alright, this is new. This is a reversal of roles. This is the world upside down. Yeah, the guy's... Shooting chibi bang bang. I have a friend who's a professor at ASU and he happens to be in the area. He wants to get together every so often. He wants me to do a podcast with him about sports. Wait, he's a professor where? In ASU, Arizona State. Ah, okay. Which is a front for something or other. You have to look at it. You look at the guy who runs the CIA. Wait, don't. Spooky. Are you sure it was an Obot dinner? You sure it wasn't? A spot to spook. A spot to spook. Everybody wants to spot the spook. No, it was not. Okay, all right.

1:08:35 I don't think so. Okay. There are two left-wingers, they're way out there. These guys are progressives. The other one's John Markov of the New York Times. Oh yeah. And Greg. You hang out, you get around! I hang out with these guys. So in the process of the dinner, we talked a lot about the no agenda thesis about this and that. They're pretty amenable to most of what we do, even though neither one of them will listen to the show. Well, good. Which is what else is due. So I don't have to worry about them listening, saying, well, you said the wrong thing about me. The dinner got going when we started about Trump and some of the things that were political that

1:09:13 We talk about Bernie Trump Hillary everyone had kind of agreed on the same since they're way over on the progressive side And I'm kind of just floating around as a as an independent. We actually agreed on most things except when it came down to this thing with they were both of them without it without even a an inch of Thinking twice about it are totally and completely convinced that the Republican Convention will throw out Trump and put in somebody else and Which is exactly what your thesis on the Summer of Chaos would indicate. And of course, this convention starts in like a week. Is it that quickly already? Oh man. The 13th I think of July is when it begins. Dynamite, dynamite. So we'll get some material there. And I remember when Paul Ryan came out, and I threw this at him, I gave him a break, I said, Paul Ryan came out and said, no, we're not going to do that because he won fair and square.

1:10:11 That, to me, was the nail in the coffin. They're not gonna boot Trump out. It's interesting you mention this because I was reading this morning, I didn't save it, I'll go back and find it, put it in the show notes. There was an article saying that the person who can actually change anything at the convention is Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan's the one who said he won fair and square. Now... A politician who's lying? Oh my gosh. Despite that, The two of them said, no, no, no, that's no. They can't run Trump. Trump has no chance of running. They're not going to do it. And I said immediately, as I always do, because I've taken so much money from these guys over the years, so much. It's unbelievable how many bets they lose. I said, OK, 100 bucks. They know I'm going to do this because I do it constantly. And they both were going to do the $100 bet. But then they both backed off. Oh, pussies. They went to 50.

1:11:06 I said, well, that'll at least pay for the meal and the wine. And so I'll take the 50. And so we made the bet on 50 that Trump's not going to walk out of the convention with the nomination. And I'm just flabbergasted that they took this bet and they were giving each other high fives. After the bed thinking they're they've got it made they're taking 50 bucks from me Kidding and they think this because they're hopeful that there'll be some alternative for them to vote for besides Hillary obviously or it's Because it's in I that's why I was so interested intrigued by your your discovery of the summer of chaos and the rest of it And the messaging that goes on about getting rid of Trump. Uh-huh

1:11:54 That's why I was so intrigued by that because I'm now convinced it's in the milieu. It's not just in the milieu. There must be operatives in media and other places propagating this. That's how that works. It's not coming from a podcast. These are two media guys. These are two media professionals at the highest level. Markov, New York Times, the highest, highest of his game. Greg was with the Wall Street Journal. He's won a bunch of awards. He's very famous. And it's not like slouches we're dealing with. And well, they are high five convinced. And they're high fiving. They're so happy or they're happy about winning the bet. Which one? Both? No, but they think they won the bet.

1:12:36 Although they wouldn't go for a hundred. That's the thing. I was so happy about this once you just up it to 100. I almost almost pulled it off. I should have used more salesmanship. I think I could have. Now, did you block their brains at any point? Were you able to just make them go? No, no. Did you tell them that we have a segment called Dinner with the O-Bots and they were it? Did oh I do it. Yeah, I did I kind of did and I said this was interesting too. I said well This is gonna be great. This is gonna be like my version of Adams dinner with the old bots and Markov says what's an old bot? Do you have a mirror we'll show you It's another installment of

CHAPTER 18 / 37 Discussion

Episode 841 Art and Executive Producer Incognigro

The hosts credit Nick the Rat for the episode artwork featuring a lying robot and thank Executive Producer Incognigro for his $250 donation. Incognigro's note critiques the "value for value" solicitation model and draws parallels between the *Game of Thrones* finale and "Lady MacDeath" (Hillary Clinton). The hosts briefly discuss their lack of interest in the HBO series.

nick the rat· incognigro· value for value· game of thrones· hillary clinton

1:13:18 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C. with us. He stands for Clickbait Dvorak. And in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning, all boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, dames and knights and all the feet up there. And the morning to our artist. In the morning, Nick the Rat. The Rat is back again, brought us the artwork for episode 840. And Nick really gets it. He really understands how... You know, there was a late piece that came in, Martin JJ, by the way, had the competitor with Nixon and Nick beat him. But Martin JJ had a piece that came in late that we didn't see during the Brexit discussion. Oh, yeah. Which I'm going to post on Twitter because I'm posting the Brexit art on Twitter because we got so much of it. So much, yeah. It is beautiful. The real Dvorak, if anybody wants to follow me.

1:14:17 You should look at this thing. I will. It's a picture of the 10 pound, 5 pound note, one of the notes, a British pound note with the Farage as the... Oh yes, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, I did see that. It's very well done. Well, Nick did the lying robot with the long Pinocchio nose, which was conceptually very nicely done, little 33 thrown in there, the prime example of album art that we appreciate. So plus one for Nick and noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload. We choose the art right after the show pretty much so you want to get it in as soon as possible. All the artwork is appreciated and we use it for all kinds of stuff and you can too, noagendaartgenerator.com. And I was going to start today by thanking everybody for allowing us to do this kind of work but man this is half. Donations are down 50 percent

1:15:11 Yes, at least. Yeah. Now a lot of this has to do with the July 4th. It does come and hit us hard on the next show. It does. Usually the Thursday show. But it will maintain this for a while. This is really bad because we only had three producers. None of them went up to executive producer level. So we have to up the The top one to the executive producer. So we have the three guys and the top one happens to be Incognigro. Always happy to have him check in with us. He mailed in a check, actually a postal order because he's Incognigro. Does he still think I'm a racist? He didn't put it in here. I do have a note. He probably does.

1:15:53 Wow, so sad. I'm so hurt by that. Well, I don't know if he thinks you're racist or not. He said that in one of his previous notes. I remember it very well. He was hurt about something you said. Let me read the note. I am pleased to continue supporting the award-winning No Agenda show and the amount of $250 as a deconstructing duo of contrarian Caucasians. Your work is unparalleled. Hello, cisgendered contrarian. Yes. Hello, you missed the word. Please address me by my proper pronoun. Thus your superfluous, superlative, B-P-I-T-U propaganda is unnecessary for responsible listeners like myself who find a value for value model compelling enough. Oh wow. In other words, what he's saying is that all the whining and complaining and letter writing we do to get more donations, he finds just the simple value for value is fine. Just the concept. Fortunately not everybody feels like him.

1:16:46 As a latter-day Stephen Stills-Neal-Young collaboration effort, the obvious corollary, Long May You Podcast, is more than apropos. What black guy knows about that? What black guy knows about Stephen Stills? Come on, come on, come on. Opposer. It's definitely self-evident, if not constitutional truth, Do you have any thoughts about the recent HBO Game of Thrones finale? I don't watch it. I don't watch it. I can't. The multiple storylines all revolved around some seriously murderous woman just killing folks with all sorts of unfettered intention and at times indiscriminate evil.

1:17:32 What with Lady MacDeath constantly in the news these days, I think he's referring to Hillary. Yes, that would be Lady MacDeath. I only wonder if someone saw an opportunity to harness the hysteria not unlike the Orlando gay clubs shooting. That lady, talking about the blonde with the dragon I think, cast one mean Jungian shadow. What with the Clinton body count and all. So he just wrote this kind of this cryptic note. It's very entertaining. Thank you. Yeah. Game of Thrones. I don't get it. I've tried. I can't watch. I don't care. I don't find it sexy that it's hot, sexy. I don't find that is annoying and boring to me. I know. But people are really, really into people love really. We should probably analyze that.

CHAPTER 19 / 37 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Birthday Announcements

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conduct a knighting ceremony for Sir KG of Virginia and Sir Andrew Harms of North Carolina. They discuss ham radio equipment and share birthday wishes for various listeners and family members, including Dvorak's daughter Jay. The hosts emphasize the unique nature of their media analysis compared to mainstream outlets.

sir kg· sir andrew harms· durham· ham radio· birthday list

1:18:28 Yeah, we probably should. I don't think we're going to. I don't think so either. Okay. Well, thank you very much, Incognigro. And you are our executive producer today, being the highest associate executive producer amount. And I'm giving you some karma right there, my friend. You've got karma. Because I like a guy who can say, hey, you're a racist one day and the next day say, oh, you're okay. I like that. You know what? I'm sure he's racist from time to time too. I like that, I appreciate that, I really do. Downward we fall here with our group of well-wishers. Sir KG of Childsburg, Mechanicsville, Virginia 23456. I've been listening from the beginning. Missed the click-click of Adam's lighter. I remember that. You don't remember that? I know I said I remember that. Oh you do, yeah. Back when I was smoking. Any show that makes you think about the issues of today instead of just accepting what is reported by the news media is worth supporting.

1:19:30 Karma, please for our vineyard in planning John any suggestions for grapes in Central Virginia? It was Chardonnay and play your favorite sound three favorite sound clips you choose one already got two lined up Okay, I would I would like to have there's no winning. We just oh yeah, tell the secret favorite. Yeah, tell a secret Okay Oh, yeah, it's a hold hands and tell the street. Oh man our database is growing big in the morning then I Busted. So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. Oh, there's no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret. You've got karma. I have to say my timing is pretty good. If you do say so yourself, since they didn't give you an award for producing. That's true. Everybody loves you, Adam.

1:20:27 Sir Andrew Harms does. He sure does. He's in Durham, North Carolina, 200 bucks. And it'll be a final associate executive producer for show 841. Please send some wedding karma my way. I'm getting married on July 9th. Love you guys and keep up the great work. Sir Andrew Harms, KC. Oh zero W zero Casey Casey zero yes Casey zero W one I I kilo Charlie Zero whiskey India India Wow it's a tough one to do on CW well seven threes my friend from kilo five alpha Charlie Charlie You've got karma I got a new screwdriver antenna coming. I'm very pumped. Oh Yeah, you add someone to the birthday list yeah sure or I forget yeah, oh

1:21:17 My daughter Jay. Wait, didn't she just celebrate? We didn't have her on the list before. It's her birthday's tomorrow. Oh, someone else's birthday up there. Okay. Jay, yes. And she'll be? She'll be 22. Wow. It never ends, does it? She'll be 23 next. And then at some point she'll stop wanting anyone knowing what her age is. That happened to me a while ago. But it's too bad. It's public records. She's on the list. Good. All right. I want to thank everyone who... Wait, that was it? Oh, shoot. That was it. Oh my God. Yeah, that was it. That's all we have. And it's a bit what I would call a lousy day. And I would like people to realize the kind of reporting that we're doing, not reporting, but analysis that we're doing is far beyond anything you're going to hear anyplace else. And I would hope that you'd help.

CHAPTER 20 / 37 Discussion

Don Lemon and the Bully Host Persona

Adam Curry critiques CNN host Don Lemon for his "bully" behavior during a segment featuring Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway and Hillary Clinton supporter Hillary Rosen. Curry argues that Lemon makes the news about himself by constantly referencing his identity as a black man. The hosts suggest Lemon's performance is becoming increasingly "cocky" and unprofessional.

don lemon· cnn· kellyanne conway· hillary rosen· media bias

1:22:14 Yeah, and remember, we will have a show on Thursday. You're going to listen to Don Lemon and his mostly gay makeup. Dirtvore.org. He's got eyeliner. It's unbelievable. All right. All right. Hey, go out there and propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Chef. Shut up, ladies. I was watching CNN and Lemon had on somebody on the monitor and then two Hillary supporters. That's why I think Hillary Rosen may have been one of them in this case. And then this one Kellyanne Conway who is a longtime Republican operative pollster and she's used to be like 10 years ago this really she was the original

1:23:10 I think even more than 10 years ago, Mr. Boilie, like 15 or 20 years ago, she was the original one of these fast-talking Republican women who could like shut you down really quick with an argument. And they were just beating her up. Just like, you know, it was the worst thing I've ever seen. And Lemon was like encouraging it. He was not a very good host at all. I don't think I'd be stunned if she ever went back on the program. He, well he's doing something which I believe is... He's a bully that guy. Well, what you shouldn't do is you shouldn't make the story about yourself and that's what he does continuously. And although, well let me take that back, that may not be entirely true. It just for some reason it feels icky when he's like, well I'm reporting to you as a black man. Okay, I don't know.

1:24:00 Well, everybody, I'm Adam Currie here. He's getting full of himself. Reporting to you as a white man. Yeah, a little cocky. A little cocky. I did have time to review the Comey conversation on the Hill with Shea Fitz and all of our buddies. I pulled a couple quickie clips for us if you're interested. Of course. Yes. Okay. I didn't. I was doing my clips and I had all this Comey material and I said, You know, Adam likes Comey so much that I'm not even get one clip. I do. I like him. Comey for president. I got a lot of pushback for saying I believe he did the right thing in this case. And I'm pretty sure he has a lot more in store. So don't you worry. Future President Comey is on the case.

CHAPTER 21 / 37 Discussion

James Comey on Hillary Clinton's Gross Negligence

FBI Director James Comey testifies before a House committee regarding the investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email server. Comey acknowledges that Clinton's actions met the definition of negligence and were "extremely careless," but claims there was no evidence of criminal intent. The hosts parse Comey's language, noting his distinction between administrative consequences and criminal prosecution.

james comey· hillary clinton· gross negligence· criminal intent· fbi

1:24:51 Question here from Walburg from Michigan, and this is really about language, which I like. As we know, there is in the statute a claw... in the statute the the clause gross negligence, so now we're talking about almost semantics, but interesting to hear how carelessness and negligence are crisscrossed throughout each other, even by Comey. Is it your statement then before this committee that Secretary Clinton should have known not to send classified material, and yet she did? Well certainly she should have known not to send classified information. As I said, that's a definition of negligence. I think she was extremely careless. I think she was negligent. That I could establish.

1:25:32 What we can't establish is that she acted with the necessary criminal intent. Do you believe that since the Department of Justice hasn't used the statute Congress passed, it's invalid? No, I think they're worried that it's invalid, that it would be challenged on constitutional grounds, which is why they've used it. extraordinarily sparingly in the decades. So there's for the legal eagles out there, you can parse that however you want to. I just thought it was interesting on background. Chaffetz came in and asked, well, he had a very simple question. We did a funny little exchange here. Did Hillary Clinton do anything wrong? What do you mean by wrong? And he makes a face which is just priceless. Chaffetz makes a priceless face. Did Hillary Clinton do anything wrong? What do you mean by wrong? I think it's self-evident. Did he sound gay there or what? I think it's self-evident. Chaffetz? Yeah. He said, I think it's self-evident. He might be gay. I think it's self-evident. Really? Whoa, hold on Chaffetz. What do you mean by wrong? Member of the Academy.

1:26:29 I think it's self-evident. Well, I'm a lawyer, I'm an investigator, and I'm an open normal human being. Do you really believe there should be no consequence for Hillary Clinton and how she dealt with this? Well, I didn't say. I hope folks remember what I said on Tuesday. I didn't say there's no consequence. Hey, idiots, hope that this is a dark moment in future President Comey's speech. Stop calling us folks. Equals dumb fucks. There's no consequence. No, it means idiot. Idiots, yeah, you're right. You know who first started using the word folk? Obama. No. Who? Adolf Hitler. Das Volk. Volkswagen. The folk. The folk. Hey, folk. He started that.

1:27:11 Vokes. Yeah, it means folks. It means folks. Yeah, well that makes sense. That's a bit sensitive. No consequence for someone who violates the rules regarding the handling of classified information. There are often very severe consequences in the FBI involving their employment, involving their pay, involving their clearances. That's what I said on Tuesday and I hope folks walk away understanding that just because someone's not prosecuted for mishandling classified information, that doesn't mean if you work in the FBI there aren't consequences for it. So if Hillary Clinton or if anybody had worked at the FBI under this fact pattern, what would you do to that person? There would be a security review and an adjudication of their suitability and a range of discipline could be imposed from termination

1:27:56 to reprimand and in between suspensions, loss of clearance. So you could be walked out or you could, depending on the nature of the facts, you could be reprimanded. But there is a robust process to handle that. Hi, so I'm glad he cleared that up. Walk her out! For us folks, yeah, with a box. With a box. Bucker out! It's a box of stuff. Now we get some details about the server and devices which hereto previously we had not had. Physically, where were Hillary Clinton's servers? The operational server was in the basement of her home in New York. Now this is very interesting because I am sure that at some point the server was in a bathroom somewhere in some temporary server farm. I remember that. Yeah, so but when he says operational server maybe that's what he means by that still. In her home in New York.

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Unauthorized Server and False Statements

Testimony reveals that Hillary Clinton's operational email server was kept in an unauthorized basement location in New York. Director Comey confirms that over 100 classified emails passed through the unsecured system. Congressman Jim Jordan questions whether Clinton lied under oath, leading to a discussion about the need for a formal referral from Congress to investigate perjury.

hillary clinton· fbi· classified information· jim jordan· house oversight committee

1:28:48 The reason I'm answering it that way is sometimes after they were decommissioned, they were moved to other facilities, storage facilities, but the live device was always in the basement. Was that an authorized or unauthorized location? It was an unauthorized location for the transmitting of classified information. Is it reasonable or unreasonable to expect Hillary Clinton would receive and send classified information? As Secretary of State, reasonable that the Secretary of State would encounter classified information in the course of the Secretary's work. Sure, depending upon the nature of the system. To communicate classified information would have to be a classified rated email system. But you did find more than a hundred emails that were classified that had gone through that server, correct? Right, to an unclassified server, correct. Yes. So Hillary Clinton did come to possess documents and materials containing classified information via email on these unsecured servers, correct? That is correct.

1:29:46 Okay, so the obvious next question is... Did Hillary Clinton lie to the FBI? We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI. Did she lie to the public? That's a question I'm not qualified to answer. I can speak about what she said to the FBI. Did she... Did Hillary Clinton lie under oath? Not to the FBI, not in a case we're working. Did you... That's interesting. Not in a case we're working. Did you hear that? He just let that slip out? To me, I think there's more than one case. Yes, exactly. Not in a case we're working. Not on a case. We didn't say the case, not on a case. Yeah, not in a case we're working. Did you review the document? Not on this case, he should have said. And that's what he should have said anyway, unless he wanted to slip it out that there's something else going on. Possible. Because he would have said not on this case and still have another case. And still have another case going on. Yeah, exactly.

1:30:34 And it would have obfuscated that fact, but no, he decided not to obfuscate the fact and he said what he said. That's a good catch. And he is very careful with his words. Right, he is very careful. That's a question that he stopped and paused a lot so he could think think about and I actually I took out a lot of the pauses as I usually do just to move it along. I think we saved 10 minutes of show just by pulling out pauses from people. I can speak about what she said to the FBI. Did she did Hillary Clinton lie under oath? Not to the FBI, not in a case we're working.

1:31:09 Did you review the documents where Congressman Jim Jordan asked her specifically? And she said, quote, there was nothing marked classified on my emails either sent or received, end quote. I don't remember reviewing that particular testimony. I'm aware of that being said, though. Did the FBI investigate her her statements under oath on this topic? Not to my knowledge. I don't think there's been a referral from Congress. Do you need a referral from Congress to investigate her statements under oath? Sure do. You'll have one. You'll have one in the next few hours. We learned a little bit about parliamentary process there. That's interesting. This was probably the best as we wind it down. This is Gowdy.

CHAPTER 23 / 37 Discussion

Trey Gowdy Questions Comey on Clinton's Truthfulness

Congressman Trey Gowdy systematically dismantles Hillary Clinton's public claims by questioning Director James Comey on specific facts. Comey confirms that Clinton's statements regarding the lack of classified markings and the return of all work-related emails were untrue. The hosts highlight Comey's refusal to comment on the existence of a separate investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

trey gowdy· james comey· hillary clinton· classified markings· clinton foundation

1:31:51 Also a lawyer, of course, Comey's a lawyer. And he just played a beautiful little game with Comey who slipped right in and went along and it was fabulous. Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received any classified information over her private email. Was that true? Our investigation found that there was classified information sent. So it was not true? Right, that's what I said. Okay, well, I'm looking for a little shorter answer so you and I are not here quite as long. Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true? That's not true. There were a small number of portion markings on I think three of the documents. Secretary Clinton said I did not email any classified material. I'm sorry, did you say something? Was that the tape? No, I didn't say anything. Oh, I thought you were saying something. Sent or received. Was that true?

1:32:40 That's not true. There were a small number of portion markings on, I think, three of the documents. Secretary Clinton said I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material. Was that true? There was classified material emailed. Secretary Clinton said she used just one device. Was that true? She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as Secretary of State. And what I like is how Comey answers. He never says yes or no or true or false. He just gives the information, which then kind of implies his answer without saying it. He's very good. This multiple devices thing, I think they should back away from that. I'm pretty sure that she... Just look at Hillary Clinton. I'm sure she only had one device at a time.

1:33:29 and not multiple, but that, you know, they got swapped out. In fact, I was reading a deposition from Uma Abedin in the lawsuit that Judicial Watch has brought on and, you know, which I'm thinking of doing something with, by the way, for the show. Because she's very, very funny the way she answers questions. But it was, you know, like, oh, the internet doesn't work. That's Hillary Clinton. That's how she's... The internet doesn't work! And then they had to take her device away because, you know, there was a hurricane going on. I would think it was Irene. And of course, she couldn't reach the email server in Chopper where in New York, because all the lines were down.

1:34:08 And, you know, like most people who really don't understand and most people probably did the Internet is down. Take the iPhone away. Get a new one. So they take it back, polish it up. I'm sure I'm sure she only had one device at a time. So they should be careful with that. I would probably agree with that. Four years of her term as secretary of state. Secretary Clinton said all work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was that true? No, we found work-related emails, thousands that were not returned. Secretary Clinton said neither she nor anyone else deleted work-related emails from her personal account. Was that true?

1:34:45 That's a harder one to answer. We found traces of work-related emails on devices or in Slackspace, whether they were deleted or whether when a server was changed out something happened to them. There's no doubt that they're work-related emails that were removed electronically from the email system. Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually? No. So that is a real good rundown of what is true and what is not true. And of course, as luck would have it, Dallas really obfuscated all of this, which is why I brought the clips today, because you're not going to see any of these played ever again. I'm surprised it's still on C-SPAN. The final one is a Chaffetz, and this is the one that I was looking for. Did you look at the Clinton Foundation? I'm not going to comment on the existence or non-existence of any other investigations.

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Huma Abedin Deposition and the 5'2" Club

The hosts discuss a reenactment of Huma Abedin's deposition by Judicial Watch, noting her deep personal devotion to Hillary Clinton. They pivot to a lighthearted observation about the short stature of many powerful women in Washington, including Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, and Kimberly Guilfoyle, all of whom are reportedly around 5'2".

huma abedin· judicial watch· loretta lynch· susan rice· height

1:35:44 Was the Clinton Foundation tied into this investigation? I'm not going to answer that. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, it's a little. That's an interesting one. Alright, I I can only presume knowing what we know and certainly regarding deposition. This is interesting guy. I gotta look him up as I was falling asleep last night. I watched. I actually watched Huma Abedin's deposition because it's a reenactment. He takes the deposition, which he gets under FOIA or maybe directly from Judicial Watch in this case, and then puts actors in and does a deposition. And it's really interesting.

1:36:28 And there's a lot of interesting stuff in how this server works and who set it up and who said to set it up. Just actually the inner workings. And Uma Abedin is, you know, I feel sorry for her. I think she might be holding the bag at one point. She may fall on the sword for Hillary because she's in love with her. There was an early discussion when she first met Hillary. We have that. We have that. That early clip. When I first saw her, she was so beautiful. She went on and on. Wasn't she on a podcast or something? I forgot where we got that. Can you tell us about the first time that you met Hillary Clinton? What is it like just meeting this iconic figure in politics?

1:37:17 When President Clinton had his re-election, a few of us interns went to Little Rock, so that was in November, obviously. And I remember being at the rally in Little Rock, and it was election night, and obviously he was re-elected. And I remember being on the rope line, and there were thousands and thousands of people, and I was with a whole bunch of my friends. And I had met her before, like I said in this photo, for 30 seconds. They come out and the crowd's electric. You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? That she walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought, wow, this is amazing. It just inspired me and I still remember the look on her face and it's funny and she would probably be so annoyed that I say this but I remember thinking,

1:38:15 Oh, she's so beautiful and she's so little. You know, it's sort of because, you know, you look people look different on TV. I just thought, wow. And I had such a fan girl. All right. You know, besides your your your lewd interruption, I would say that the shocking thing about that clip is that she's so tiny. Yeah. And she's and I found out how tall Lynch is, too. No way was it Lynch? No, no. Well, here's the people we're dealing with. Dealing with the twerp. We're dealing with Lynch. Now tall Lynch is? Rice. Susan Rice is the twerp. Lynch is 5'2". Okay, that's what I said. I said when I saw her, she's short. And yours is 5'2"? You ready for this? Guilfoyle.

1:39:10 I knew Gil Foyle was a petite woman, even though she doesn't show it on television. She's very small. 5'2". Yeah, she's 5'2". That's why she has the poofy hair. That's what short people do. If they have it. Right. Women. Well, your first wife was 5'2". She's still 5'3". Or 5'3". And she still is. Maybe she's 5'2", now. I don't know. She might have shrunk. It's always possible. Now, so how tall is Lynch? They're 5'2". Oh, she's 5'2", they're all 5'2". They're all 5'2". What about Hillary? Do you have Hillary? I think she's 5'3". According to Abbotting, she's tiny. Well, you know, 5'2", you're down there, man.

CHAPTER 25 / 37 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Pathological Lying on CNN

Hillary Clinton appears on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to spin the FBI's findings, claiming she "believed" no classified material was sent. The hosts label her a pathological liar for contradicting Director Comey's testimony regarding document markings. They predict that Huma Abedin may eventually face legal consequences for forwarding classified material from secure State Department systems.

hillary clinton· wolf blitzer· cnn· classified documents· fbi investigation

1:39:55 Let me see, I'm going to consult the book of knowledge for a moment. I'm pretty sure she's right. This is the only show, by the way, I want to remind people don't donate to the show. No other show discusses this sort of thing. And it is important. And it's interesting. At least. I have Hillary came on with Broll. Why she did this, I really don't know. There was no reason for it. She could have just stayed home and let everything else unfold. She was getting a lot of airtime. There's somebody was, I think somebody in her campaign worked it. Yeah. Worked the phones and got, she got on CBS. Should we listen to her more for her demeanor, et cetera, and how she's trying to spin this? I think it's worth it. Now that the threat... She's human? She didn't even say that, actually.

1:40:52 But I also know how important it is to make sure everybody understands that I would certainly not do that again. That is something that at the time, as even Director Comey said, seemed like a convenience, but it was the wrong choice. said you did not break the law, but Comey, the FBI director, also said in announcing his findings this week that you acted, in his words, extremely careless, in an extremely careless way in handling classified sensitive information. Do you acknowledge you were extremely careless? Well, I think that director clarified.

1:41:33 uh... that comment to some extent uh... pointing out that some of what uh... had been thought to be classified apparently was not the state department also i was just he never said that he did not clarify that i made that clear i think there are about three hundred pathological liar yes this is why i'd like to listen to this you're absolutely right And not that other politicians aren't, but she's really blatant here. People in the government, mostly in the State Department, but in other high positions in the government with whom I emailed over the course of four years,

1:42:08 They, I believe, did not believe they were sending any material that was classified. They were pursuing their responsibility. And this is really mean what she does here. She is, she did this on a couple other appearances, same setting. She is saying, oh, everybody else did it. They're competent people. They should have known. She's pretty much saying, oh, well, if they didn't say anything, you know, it's like, they're over there. ... their responsibilities. I do not think they were careless. And as I have said many times, I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified. Notice the insertion of the word believed.

1:42:51 Yes, I noticed that. Still got like a sore thumb. Yeah, I didn't believe... No, you were very clear, Ms. Clinton. Received or sent. Any material... Let me get the believed back in there. That is irksome. I did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified and indeed any of the documents that have been referred to I think were not marked or were marked inaccurately as has now been clarified. No, the clarification was that there were three with actual subsection markers with a C in parentheses which means they're classified and it was pretty obvious. The State Department as you know has decided now to reopen its own internal review. Oh and thanks, Brolf.

1:43:34 for jumping in and saying that's not true. You're right, it is the Clinton News Network. The material that was classified and indeed any of the documents that have been referred to I think were not- She lies on a very specific point that was debunked by Comey. Very specific point anyone who paid attention and Brolf says nothing. Nothing. He was very clear. There were 110, they were classified, three had actual subsection... Three or four, they've been four. Classifications, which is, it's clear. And I've seen them, I've seen copies of these documents. And I'm telling you, Uma Abedin is going to get burned because she is the one that was forwarding from the state secure email system to her email system.

CHAPTER 26 / 37 Discussion

Bakari Sellers and the Saddam Hussein Trump Slip

In a confused CNN segment, politician Bakari Sellers repeatedly attributes the actions of Saddam Hussein to Donald Trump, claiming Trump killed tens of thousands of his own citizens. The hosts use this as an example of "brainwashing" and the low quality of guests on mainstream news networks. They suggest CNN is simply rushing any available black commentators onto the air following the Dallas events.

bakari sellers· cnn· donald trump· saddam hussein· iraq war

1:44:25 Yes, she's gonna get burned for that. She may get jail time. Possibly. Classified. And Orange is the New Black, Uma Abedin, special guest star. And indeed any of the documents that have been referred to I think were not marked or were marked inaccurately as has now been clarified. Someone made an excellent point in the chat room. It's possible that this is just one of those satellite interviews where you just put the questions in and Brolf is just asking questions and they've edited it together. It was so similar of what she was saying. Anything's possible in this world. The State Department, as you know, has decided- It's possible, but CNN doesn't do that as far as I know. I know, I know, I know.

1:45:10 I'm just saying anything's possible for sure. Well I assume they will pursue whatever process they think is appropriate and I'll- Listen to her not answer this question. This is a lesson right here. Whatever process they think is appropriate and I also assume that they will pay very close attention to what the findings were of the Justice Department investigation. I am very proud of the-

1:45:49 It's subtle, but she also says, instead of saying FBI investigation, she says Justice Department investigation. It's subtle and it is factually correct, but the FBI did the investigation, which by the way, was a security review a couple weeks ago. Now it's an investigation. Right. Just saying. Department investigation. I am very proud of the work that we did during my four years. We dealt with two wars, a financial collapse, the Arab Spring and so much else. And I think that the professionals with whom I communicated were very careful about how they handled classified material as I was over the course of those four years.

1:46:31 It's just like she just sits there and lies. Yeah, she's very careful. Did they wish to call me said the main thing was she was not very careful He said verbatim They said very careless is what he said classified material as I was over the course of those four years We're completely out of time, but very quickly will you cooperate with this new State Department investigation because I know you didn't cooperate with the Inspector General of the State Department in his investigation? Well, there was a Justice Department investigation going on at the time and of course I fully cooperated with that. Good to be here, Bruce. So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed videos. We came, we saw, he died. I killed another one! Did you see the person that put up on YouTube?

1:47:21 10 hours solid of her laughing a giant yeah, yeah, it's been around 10 hours. It's been around It's the same clips over and over best and who does tell us time to do this you're working for us No, the black lives matter people. I don't know Who has time for this? I don't know and we're barely we're barely able to get it all get by with everything Oh, just sticking with the... Just a little jokey, little jokey thing. Because you brought up Trump and the programming that's in people's minds. Bakari Sellers. Who is this guy, Bakari Sellers? He is... He was on CNN. It was very funny. Let me just find out who he is. Bakari Sellers, politician and attorney. Represented South Carolina's 90th district. Okay.

1:48:16 uh... and he is he only to seize african-american and he hates trump and he hates trump so much here's how it came out on the cnn first donald trump was for the iraq war before he was against it second donald trump didn't kill terrorists donald trump killed tens of thousands of his own citizens you mean donald trump even since gun missiles he says i was a dominoes and excuse me ourselves about the same thing i was saying i think missiles right into iraq and we just found out from recent saves that Donald Trump even stated to some of his underlings before he met his demise that he actually would send chemical weapons into Israel. So those are all Saddam Hussein. I keep giving this to Donald Trump. Saddam Hussein, I'm sorry. That's programming, man.

CHAPTER 27 / 37 Discussion

John C. Dvorak's Twitter Blocking Policy

John C. Dvorak explains his strict policy of blocking "offensive" or "off-topic" users on Twitter, particularly those who complain about his tech opinions. He notes that he rarely unblocks people unless they are proven donors to the show. Dvorak compares the behavior to his days at *PC Magazine*, where people would threaten to cancel non-existent subscriptions.

twitter· blocking· social media· donors· pc magazine

1:54:03 All right, thank you Saskatoon! The lingo from the Paris of the Prairie. Yes. Carter Blummeier in Windermere, Florida, $64. Jared Meisner in Bellevue, Washington, $58.41. Benjamin Blaha Nelson. Is that what it says? Yeah. Blaha Nelson. It says Dallas, Texas, $55. Hold on. I was a block from the Dallas shooting. If you need a source, hey, unblock me on Twitter, will ya? That's usually for you. I'll tell you, just let me finish this and I'll explain my Twitter blocking policy. Oh please. Andrew, the following one, two, three, four, five people have each donated 50 bucks and we're gonna mention them name and address or not address but town. Andrew Dawson in Wantirna South, Victoria, Australia. David Peat in

1:55:00 Aubrey, Texas. Drew Mochak in El Chorrito, California. It's right down the street from me. Brian Matthews in Bellbrigan, Dublin, Ireland. And finally Andrew Drake in Port Arthur, Texas. It was a very short list, I'm sorry to say. But let's go and then mention, here's what happens. I'm on Twitter and I use Twitter for one reason. It's just to send out little messages or to test stuff. Pictures of old cars. I do the old cars. I just kind of... Coi things that get attention and then I'll do hey the show is on you know go listen kind of thing That's about it. I don't do that much. I do retweet stuff. I find you get involved. I see you Okay, yeah once in a while once in a while not all the time and then somebody I want says well That's because you're an a-hole And so I just block them

1:55:56 And I usually do it because somebody has said something that I found incredibly off topic and offensive or something that was just or some Mac guy, you know, hey, you always say, hey, the mouse, the mouse, you didn't think the mouse is going to, you know, this anything about the mouse or the phone and all that stuff. So they just get blocked. And I've been maintaining a kind of a list of why I blocked some of these people in a file and I said, why am I wasting my time doing this? So now I can't unblock people because I don't know why I got blocked in the first place. If you could explain it. to me while you got blocked, I might be able to unblock you if I can get around to it. But generally speaking, I've decided not to bother. You shouldn't have gotten blocked in the first place. Be nice. Here's my policy. I don't think I block anyone, but when someone says, oh, I don't donate because Dvorak blocked me. Then I say, oh, good, blocked. And then I block him.

1:56:52 Usually if you don't donate, actually there's been a couple instances where somebody's donated a lot of money and then I've unblocked them. I'll go unblock them. I'll go unblock this guy if I can remember to do it after the show. But I'll do that to people who are donors. Most people aren't donors and they'll say something like that. Say, ah, you know, and if you look them up, they're not listed anywhere. They're not listed by PayPal, they're not listed by the database that we maintain, they're not listed. This is bull crap. It's just they got blocked for some other reason. And then and to say that I won't do it you won't donate anyway if you say something like that. That's the way I see it It's like the when I was at PC magazine we always get this I'm ending my subscription because something Dvorak said yeah, and you looked in or don't have a subscription Just randomly ran into something and they thought they'd take a shot. Yes. You know oh god. We've got to scold Dvorak for saying something and

CHAPTER 28 / 37 Discussion

Amazon's Audible Podcast Subscription Service

Amazon is launching a subscription service for podcasts through Audible, marketed as the "Netflix of podcasting." The hosts express skepticism, arguing that putting free content behind a firewall is a poor monetization strategy for creators. The segment concludes with final birthday wishes for Paul Shabbity, Tim Young, and Dvorak's partner, Tina Marie Snyder.

amazon· audible· netflix of podcasting· monetization· birthday list

1:57:44 Yeah, it's a pet peeve. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, but that's that's what people do is you know, they're like I unsubscribe. I unsubscribe. It doesn't. Okay, fine. There are other ways to do this. Your Amazon is now introduced their audible podcast subscription service, the Netflix of podcasting. Let me tell you something, Amazon. It won't work. Are they doing it? Are they doing it for people who are too stupid to figure out how to listen to a podcast? For some reason. Are they charging money? What's the deal? They are literally promoting this. They are literally promoting this as the Netflix of podcasting. Who? That makes no sense. Yeah. So, well, the idea is, um, you pay a monthly subscription and then you can eat as many of these podcasts as you want.

1:58:38 And somehow... You can anyway, for free. Well I think you're going to see a lot of podcasts go behind the firewall to Amazon thinking that they're going to get some kind of benefit out of it, which is just not true. It doesn't, you can't monetize the network. I've said it a million times. But that's the alternative. That's the alternative. Maybe DHM Plug would be good behind the firewall there and get some money from generous Amazonians. You can get enough money to pay off the bet with Markov, maybe. What do you mean pay off the bet? I'm collecting those bets. I'm just kidding. Well, we appreciate everyone who supported us today. Thank you. Thank you for those who came in. That is highly appreciated. It does enable us to do what we want to do.

1:59:26 And we have a birthday stay, not even nights or anything. It's very low. So please remember, we got a show coming up on Thursday. Devorak.org slash N-A. As promised. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Stop. Stop. Do we know that the new Jobs Karma jingle is effective? Oh my goodness. That's a very good point. Yes, especially to the superstitious duo. Let's not take any risks. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. All right, we've pulled it all straight again.

2:00:23 And we say happy birthday to Paul Shabbity from Shawn Cardinal. Carl Penfield says happy birthday to Tim Young. Tim Young and Jenna, Jenn-ya. John J. Courto celebrates on July 18th. Jay Dvorak turns 22 tomorrow. as does the love of my life, Tina Marie Snyder, also celebrating and we're doing that in Vegas. So happy birthday everybody from the buddies here at the best podcast in the universe! Yeah, well, and you're going to come back married? No, because Elvis, one of her daughters already said, when your mom get married, it has to be St. Bart's and I'm plus three just so you know. So no, that's one another good reason to get married in Vegas. Make people making demands already.

CHAPTER 29 / 37 Discussion

Rapid DNA Testing Bill in the House

A new bill in the House of Representatives proposes allowing police officers to conduct "Rapid DNA" testing in the field rather than in accredited labs. While intended to speed up investigations, the technology raises significant privacy concerns regarding the collection and storage of genetic material without lab oversight. The hosts compare the potential for unreliability to past Silicon Valley tech scams.

rapid dna· house of representatives· privacy· dna evidence bill· police technology

2:01:41 I'm going to move to a new topic if that's okay. Yes, please. One of our producers' wife is working currently with some technology that he already alerted us to. I think you were on the email chain. By the way, whoever says email chain, isn't it thread? It should be thread, but chain is more slave has a slave connotation. Okay, so people in government have email chains. Perfect. There's a new rapid DNA process. I'm going to read you verbatim. A DNA evidence bill, which is now in the House, would let police in the field, not just technicians in an accredited lab, quickly test the genetic material of suspects and this bill has advanced to the House floor. And it's called rapid DNA.

2:02:36 So currently DNA swabs are, you know, obviously analyzing the crime lab. It's not like CSI. It takes a little while. It can take a couple of months. And this, of course, in the case of the rape kits, it could take years and years and years. Yeah. So now we have this rapid, and if this bill passes, we'll have this rapid DNA test where, you know, it's just like, oh, hip, come here, slave, let me test your DNA. Ah, I found your DNA over here. You may be guilty or whatever. And I'm- Have we looked into this? We need to look into this rapid test. Well, this could be like that scam that went on in Silicon Valley with this rapid this and rapid that. No, the test that I'm not sure about

2:03:22 the accuracy of the test, but the test apparently does work. And our producer sent us information, his wife is directly involved with this, and he says, look, it does work. But everyone is very concerned because, you know, I mean, you can just you could just walk in the door of a club, you know, someone can connect, collect your DNA, can store it. I mean, this is there's a lot of privacy concerns about this. Walk into a club? What are you talking about? It's like you could be walking anywhere, someone can just scrape you and then they can have your DNA. And they can do that now. Yeah, the cops can. But this rapid DNA is going to be in the field. It's not going to be in a crime lab. The cops will have it in their car. They will do DNA analysis on the spot. Well, what's the difference? It's just the time constraint. The difference is the time issue. Yeah, but the DNA is already unreliable.

2:04:19 And I'm guessing that this DNA is just as unreliable. Except it's in the field and there's going to be stuff happening. Well, I see problems ahead. I don't see problems. We need more information. I will certainly dive into it. But I see problems afoot with this type of technology. What you're afraid of is... What are you afraid of? You're not doing anything wrong. Yeah, exactly. I got a couple notes I want to read. These are just miscellaneous notes for people who like to travel. We talk about him, I got a Monte Cristo in the mail. This is from one of our producers, I don't know if he wants his name mentioned, but whatever. He apparently goes to Havana quite a bit. I first went to Havana, a tourist gave me a tip about buying real cigars in Havana. A lot of people start going to Havana, I didn't even think of this when I read this note, I said, oh, geez, there's a problem.

2:05:10 But if you want good Cuban cigars, go to one of the factories around four or five o'clock. The workers are leaving for home. You're allowed to, they're allowed two cigars per person and you can buy them for about one to two dollars each as they come out of the factory. You can see them, they're in their hands wrapped in newspaper, but they have no cigar rings, but they are fresh. A good place to make contacts. One gentleman went back to the factory and got a bunch of cigars, including one I guess he collected. The cigar black market is beyond belief. Fake cigars are sold all over the place. You'd think if you went to Cuba to buy a Cuban cigar, you'd get a Cuban cigar. Fake cigars are sold all over the place, sometimes even in the shops. There are specialists who keep an eye out for that kind of thing. They go from cigar shop to cigar shop investigating the cigars. Eduardo, his contact, even has stashes of fake cigars who he sells to native or naive tourists.

CHAPTER 30 / 37 Discussion

Cuban Cigar Black Market and Puerto Rico Travel

A producer provides travel tips for buying authentic Cuban cigars in Havana, warning tourists about the prevalence of fakes even in official shops. Another report details the economic struggles in Puerto Rico but recommends flying JetBlue into the smaller Ponce airport to avoid the chaos of the international terminal. The hosts discuss the "cigar black market" involving police and factory bosses.

cuba· havana· cigars· jetblue· puerto rico· travel tips

2:04:19 And I'm guessing that this DNA is just as unreliable. Except it's in the field and there's going to be stuff happening. Well, I see problems ahead. I don't see problems. We need more information. I will certainly dive into it. But I see problems afoot with this type of technology. What you're afraid of is... What are you afraid of? You're not doing anything wrong. Yeah, exactly. I got a couple notes I want to read. These are just miscellaneous notes for people who like to travel. We talk about him, I got a Monte Cristo in the mail. This is from one of our producers, I don't know if he wants his name mentioned, but whatever. He apparently goes to Havana quite a bit. I first went to Havana, a tourist gave me a tip about buying real cigars in Havana. A lot of people start going to Havana, I didn't even think of this when I read this note, I said, oh, geez, there's a problem.

2:05:10 But if you want good Cuban cigars, go to one of the factories around four or five o'clock. The workers are leaving for home. You're allowed to, they're allowed two cigars per person and you can buy them for about one to two dollars each as they come out of the factory. You can see them, they're in their hands wrapped in newspaper, but they have no cigar rings, but they are fresh. A good place to make contacts. One gentleman went back to the factory and got a bunch of cigars, including one I guess he collected. The cigar black market is beyond belief. Fake cigars are sold all over the place. You'd think if you went to Cuba to buy a Cuban cigar, you'd get a Cuban cigar. Fake cigars are sold all over the place, sometimes even in the shops. There are specialists who keep an eye out for that kind of thing. They go from cigar shop to cigar shop investigating the cigars. Eduardo, his contact, even has stashes of fake cigars who he sells to native or naive tourists.

2:06:05 and he has real cigars for his regulars like me. Everyone gets a cut, the police, the co-workers, and the bosses. Rumor has it that when Obama left Havana, Air Force One was loaded with Cuban cigars. Nice. Cuban cigar shops are very busy with U.S. customers. Huh? I just had a great idea for a TV show. We could do the real Maury Povich on the spot. So if you have the crazy people, it's not my kid and then we can do the DNA on the spot. Oh, you're still thinking about the DNA swabber. Oh, I'm thinking commercial ways to use this. I'm thinking we have a great show. Well, you have to think of it, here's the way. Yeah, you could. But Maury does it with a dramatic

2:06:55 angle and it's like you have to wait for the DNA results. Right, but you can do that at the beginning of the show and then you can show the tubes, you know, like changing color or whatever. We'll hype that up to make it look interesting. Bubbling stuff out of the lab. I'm assuming without asking anyone that Maury will move to this model anyway. Is he still alive? I think the show's still on. There's a bunch of these crappy shows on. They're on and people would rather watch Ellen. He's the one making all the money. Yes true another note. This is from one of our regular producers Just got back from the island you talking about Puerto Rico when a two-day deal is not good People are apathetic businesses are failing not enough paying jobs decent paying jobs. Every thing seems slow-moving This is very sad right however if there's another travelers tip for the

2:07:46 producers flew through JetBlue on an Airbus 322 to the Mercedita airport in Ponce. Easy breezy through TSA and customs is a small ass airport with two terminals. Also, you can rent cars there. It has one ramp, a terminal two, has a tarmac, movable stairs, just like the old days. Screw the international airport, do not go there. It's a bitch to get in and out of. JetBlue only flies around midnight and it is cheap as heck from Orlando or Tampa on a three hour trip. There you go. That's good info. Take JetBlue for, yeah. I got a couple of things. First, the Islamic State is now reportedly circulating the Golden Dinar, which was the original Qaddafi plan, which is rumored to have been one of the reasons they wanted to get rid of him. He wanted the African Dinar.

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

ISIS Golden Dinar and Canadian Anthem Changes

The Islamic State is reportedly circulating a "Golden Dinar" currency in an attempt to bypass the US dollar, echoing a plan once proposed by Muammar Gaddafi. Meanwhile, the Canadian government has passed a bill to make the national anthem, "O Canada," gender-neutral by changing "all thy sons command" to "all of us command."

isis· golden dinar· o canada· gender neutrality· gold standard

2:08:36 And ISIS slash ISIL has begun circulating its own currency, dubbed the golden dinar, in the hopes it will collapse the US dollar. You might want to have to work on that a little bit, but... Yeah. But if they start, you know, selling their oil and you have to buy it from them in dinar and it's cheap, I think people will do that. I think countries who are now buying it, mainly European countries who are buying this ISIS oil through... It's probably still through Erdogan's kid. He's probably still running that. Wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, you're gonna get blown up. Yeah. Canada did something very interesting. In order to make, I guess, national pride more inclusive, I'm not sure exactly how you would describe that, a bill was passed that is going to change the English language version of the Canadian national anthem, O Canada, and it will change the words, in all thy sons command,

2:09:39 and replace them with, in all of us command. So changing the national anthem to make sure no one feels hurt by the lyrics. Sounds good. It's about time. What is it with you today? All right. Jose Manuel Barroso, of course, the president of the European Commission, former president of the European Commission. He has, he got a new gig at Goldman Sachs. What? Yes. They just announced they've hired Barroso, you know, the guy who was partially responsible for screwing Greece. Yeah, yeah. Which was done. That's good work. Done by Goldman Sachs. And here he is going to work for them. Unbelievable. That that to me is just wow. The guy has no shame. No shame. No, no, of course not. He's in the EU.

CHAPTER 32 / 37 Discussion

Hawaii Five-O Bad Science and The Jester

John C. Dvorak critiques the "disgusting" lack of realism in the television show *Hawaii Five-O*, specifically regarding tire tread identification and a 105-year-old spy. The discussion shifts to "The Jester," an alleged intelligence asset on Twitter who is promoting an AI-powered unrest predictor. The hosts suspect the predictor is actually a native advertisement for IBM Watson and the show *Mr. Robot*.

hawaii five-o· nissan· rapid dna· the jester· ibm watson

2:10:44 I've got a clip. Let's try this. Wait, we have a jingle for these moments. Here we go. It's Sir Jimmy sent this in. Alright, the Weeb of Time. That's a good jingle. It's good, isn't it? He sang it. More exciting than what I'm gonna go to, but okay. So I've decided, I used to do these a lot, but I haven't done much, but this one I just had to do because I'm watching the television and this comes on, I go, oh my god. So they have,

2:11:33 I've now decided that Hawaii Five-O is the worst show ever. And they do these gimmicky things. Remember we used to have these, you guys have the video feeds. Why did it end out somehow, you know, with the computer? Okay. Listen to this. Yeah, I'm listening. No, to the Hawaii Five-O. I can't get enough of this song. The Ventures kick ass. Play what clip? Hawaii Five-O clip that I have. Oh, I thought you wanted me to play. I had no idea what you wanted me to do. Okay. No, Hawaii Five-O Bad is the name of the clip. Got it. Eric, the tire treads at the crime scene belong to a Nissan NV1500.

2:12:22 HPD's flagged all the plates and Duke's got UNI's going door-to-door. Should be just a matter of time before we talk to every registered owner. Time is something we don't have. Hey. Alright, who are we looking at here? So we got a hit on the DNA profile that Mac sent out. The remains in the bunker belong to 2nd Lieutenant Aki Hirota, which is interesting considering that the Japanese army lists him as killed in action in the Battle of Changsha, China in the spring of 1940. So what, they faked his death? Well, they gave him a new life. The KIA story is classic espionage stuff. They kill Hirota on paper, then they send him out here to work as an agent with a new identity. Alright, well there's no way that Fugo was a one-man operation. They had to have other players involved. It's a safe bet, also safe to assume that our perp has a close connection with one of them. Maybe even Hirota himself. Fits perfectly into the rapid DNA profiling, doesn't it?

2:13:12 Now we have a guy who was listed as dead in 1940, who has been sent to the United States as a spy. Now anyone who want to do the math on this guy, he was probably 25 years old in 1940. And now he's floating around as a spy. What is he, 105? So the math is bad on this show. Then at the beginning of the clip they say, oh we've got the tires and it matches the tires of a truck. And they name it, it's a Nissan. And I actually went and looked his tires up. These are just regular tires. There's no special tire that associates with this particular vehicle. You're disputing a fictional television show.

2:13:56 No, I'm disputing their mechanisms. I mean, the public can put up with so much, but it has to be some realism. You can't say the cops come barrel. This is the problem with what we've said this before. This is tarnishing the jury pool of the country. Yes. When a cop comes and says, oh, the tires are on a such and such car. No, these are a generic tire that it could be on anything that would carry those tires. This is like the most disgusting, even the one where they said, well, let's spread out the photo or let's computers see when the computer can make it whiter, this sort of thing. It's just, I'm sorry, I'm so annoyed, but this one really just got me. And it went after the other. One, you got the 105 year old spy floating around shooting people. And then you got the tires that was associated with this one truck. Bull crap.

2:14:49 It's actually not that crazy. No, no, it's actually not that crazy because I was reading there... hmm, let's see if I have this article somewhere. There's a website which is now... oh, let me find it... because the guy behind it was the thing that threw me off. Here we go, I think it's here. Do you remember the jester? The Batman character? No, he's a guy on Twitter and he is JesterJ35T3R, you know, Jester the Jester. Oh that, yeah. I think it was around Snowden that he was online. We have pretty much confirmed from our sources that he is an intelligence asset.

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Ramsey Orta Jail Sentence and FEC Censorship

Ramsey Orta, the man who filmed the police killing of Eric Garner, is sentenced to four years in prison on unrelated charges, making him the only person at the scene to serve time. Simultaneously, FEC Commissioner Lee Goodman warns that "net neutrality" regulations are a precursor to censoring conservative voices and "bullies" on the internet under the guise of diversity.

ramsey orta· eric garner· fec· net neutrality· censorship

2:15:35 And I just can't seem to find it off the hand, but he has come up with a website which predicts where the next killing will be or a riot all related to Black Lives Matter. I just can't find it. I had this article. I'm pretty sure I had it in my list here. Okay, well, while you're looking for that, I got one more clip. Let's play this clip. I get the biggest kick out of it. Only people covering this story as Democracy Now! This is the story about the poor schlub who took the movie of the cops killing that big fat guy in New York. Yeah, I can't- He's apparently the only guy who's ever gonna go to jail because he made the film. Played New York City man with the camera.

2:16:22 Here in New York City, Ramsey Orta, who filmed the police killing of Eric Garner, is slated to go to jail for four years, making him the only person at the scene of the Eric Garner killing who will serve jail time. On Wednesday, Orta took a plea deal on weapons and drug charges. He says he's been repeatedly arrested and harassed by police since he filmed the fatal police chokehold that took Eric Garner's life nearly two years ago. Huh. Well, how does that work? That's because the cops there are that don't like these interlopers coming in and filming them doing their dastardly deeds. The way I see it, if you're gonna be in New York or some of these places where they don't want you filming them, even though it's legal, it's fine, it should be filmed.

2:17:05 Rush off run away and then take and make a couple copies of the of the what you saw and send him Anonymously because he didn't get paid money sent him anonymously to some news sources, and it just don't say I did it This poor bastard he took the film and next thing you know he was being harassed. I you know it was yeah of course It was he guy with now he's in jail for what I don't understand how that works Yeah That's the story of the year. Nobody in mainstream media is covering it, of course. Well, let's go back to our favorite net neutrality. As you know, there was another win for the net neutrality peeps. Pretty much solidifying the regulations, the FCC regulations. However, the FEC, the Federal Election Commission, yeah, the FEC

CHAPTER 34 / 37 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis and Anti-Semitism in Holland

A documentary highlights rising anti-Semitism in The Hague, where Jewish residents are reportedly being harassed by second-generation Muslim immigrants. The hosts discuss how "hate speech" laws in Europe often prevent the reporting of crimes committed by migrants to avoid accusations of racism. They note that many Jewish families are leaving the Netherlands due to the lack of government intervention.

the hague· netherlands· anti-semitism· migrant crisis· hate speech

2:17:56 The Federal Election Commission. Yes, Federal Election Commission, yes. Which has three Democrats and three Republicans on it. So this is an important group because they determine, you know, they have oversight if you're doing things legally. It's all in the up and up. And at least one of them is very concerned, I think. What is this report? I'm a mess today. This is my second lead and you've done this to us. Well, I'm not doing it on purpose. I don't know. Content and control of the internet, especially from conservative sources, are pushing hard to layer on new regulations and even censorship under the guise of promoting diversity while policing bullying, warn commissioners of the Federal Communications Commission and Federal Election Commission.

2:18:45 Lee E. Goodman, a commissioner of the FEC which has divided three Democrats to three Republicans, said, quote, protecting freedom on the internet is just one vote away. Do we understand? Protecting freedom on the internet? Protecting freedom means to censor the bullies. Yes, that's exactly what's going to happen. Censor the conservatives, there's too many of them. Yes, yes. So protecting freedom is censorship. Okay, well, that's what we predicted. Yes, exactly. We predicted this would happen. We read the language. We said, if you think this is about your Netflix not buffering, you're wrong. This is about

2:19:26 Illegal content and illegal network traffic and it's coming to a head now and the FEC sees it. It makes more sense it would come from an alternative agency. I kind of like the FEC saying this is not good and it's going to be censorship of what you can and can't say, can and can't do, what will be legal and illegal. Just imagine the so-called Star of David tweet that Trump sent out. He would be arrested in the future. Should have been arrested. Yeah, should have been arrested immediately. So I'm watching the Beck network and Blaze. This new girl on the Beck net. This new girl, you're going to talk Tommy?

2:20:10 The blonde? Yeah, she's everyone's talking about here in Texas. Oh, she's a dingbat. I know! She's very uncomfortable to listen to. And she looks uncomfortable on this camera. Dana is the only good woman that works here. I'm just saying that I hear the millennials are talking about her. She's, you know, the face bags all Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. And she's from Dallas and of course now she's getting on mainstream because of Dallas. She'll quit as soon as she can. So I'm watching, they play some documentary about Holland that was showing the Muslims harassing the Jews in the Hague. The Hague apparently, all the Jews have left, according to this documentary, because they get harassed by all these, not immigrants, but Muslims that have moved there and become Dutch. Born. And they drive by them on their bicycle. What? They're born there. You're talking second generation. These kids were born in Holland.

2:21:03 The one we're talking about. And they're Jew haters. Yeah. And they apparently, and they go around, they bash Jews in the back of the head on their bikes. Yeah, they drive by on their mopeds and hit your, you know, kick you or hit your bag. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, that's real. Yeah. Well, they showed quite a bit of evidence about this. And they show that the Dutch don't seem to be doing anything about it. And there's no such thing as, you know, hate speech. Well, you can't because, no, you can't because then you're a racist, you see. People are you don't live yeah, this is exactly what's happening. It's all just just all Jew hating a lot of it So meanwhile this guy so I'm watching some other stuff and this guy comes on He shows up on RT who tried to do this is the Facebook kills authors account This is some guy bitching about the immigrants coming in and not being dealt with properly and

CHAPTER 35 / 37 Discussion

German Censorship and New Rape Law Definitions

Facebook is actively blocking German authors who post "politically incorrect" content regarding the migrant crisis, following a request from Angela Merkel to Mark Zuckerberg. In response to the New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne, Germany has modernized its rape laws to a "no means no" standard. Previously, victims had to prove they physically fought back for a conviction to occur.

facebook· mark zuckerberg· angela merkel· cologne· german rape law

2:21:52 They just create all these crimes and the German rape Germans and oh well whatever you have to they had to change the German rape law because of these people. And I use the word people. But I just thought that was just abhorrent that you can't do anything on these closed systems and people talk about freedom of speech. When you're on Facebook, there's no freedom of speech. It's not a government run operation, it's run by a private organization. If they want to kick every Republican off of it, that'd be fine. But play the Facebook kills author's account, I thought was a good little ditty. Meanwhile, Facebook has temporarily blocked the page of a German author after he placed an ad there for his new anti-migrant book. The message from the social network read that the content of the posting violated its guidelines. Please remember that the Angela had asked Mark Zuckerberg personally, we have the open mic,

2:22:44 Would you please get hate speech against immigrants or migrants off of Facebook? And he said, yes, I'll do it. And then they came out and said, yes, we're going to do that. So, yeah. The book titled Boundless Criminal exposes alleged cover-ups by authorities and mainstream media of crimes committed by migrants. The author and journalist is known for a staunch anti-immigrants and anti-Muslim stance. And we asked him about Facebook blocking his page. When I posted advertisement for the new book and when I just wrote what is written inside there, I have written it together with a policeman, they just have closed my account. And several times our Ministry of Justice has claimed publicly, if you post

2:23:29 If you have posts on your Facebook accounts that are politically incorrect, we have the means to close your accounts. And they did it with me right now. They do it with hundreds and thousands of others. That is reality now in countries, so-called free democratic countries with media freedom and press freedom and freedom of speech in Germany. That's reality. In your book you claim that crimes committed by migrants have reached unprecedented levels. If we look at some of the official statistics, for example a new report released by the the federal police, they say crimes committed by refugees and migrants have dropped almost 20% if you look between January and March of this year. So how do you support the the figures that you're quoting?

2:24:18 I got it from a we got information, of course, from outside the police service in Germany, from the intelligence community and many, many cases being dropped because people are migrants. And our politicians say, don't go behind that. Don't report it. Let them just go. I don't blame. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a good little thing to put on the show and then I yeah and that was followed up by this particular clip which I was actually stunned by. They've had to change because of that incident that took place in Cologne. They've had to change the German rape laws because there was so liberal it sounded like you could it was just play this and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm Brent Goff it's good to have you with us. Tonight Germany is getting a new legal definition of what constitutes rape.

2:25:10 Now the aim is to modernize the law to incorporate the principle of no means no. Now the old definition of rape only applied if the victim, believe it or not, tried to physically fight off the attacker and could prove that. The campaign for change gathered speed earlier this year after New Year's Eve attacks in the city of Cologne and other towns across Germany where many women were sexually assaulted by refugees. Today in the city of Cologne, an Iraqi man was given a suspended one-year sentence for sexual assault for his role in those attacks. But he is one of the few to be convicted. In fact, he's the first.

2:25:53 Our campaigners hope that by bringing convictions for sexual assault and rape in line with modern definitions, it'll be easier once the new law comes into force. The passing of this bill today in the Bundestag is a huge step forward. If proven guilty, all rapists in Germany will now be punished. That wasn't the case previously. Now, victims will be encouraged to file charges. They'll be taken seriously. Up until now, the victim had to have used force to defend themselves in order for rape to be punishable as rape. Saying simply no was not enough.

2:26:33 Now the funny thing about this is that the one guy they finally found some guy that they could convict and he got a one-year suspended sentence. I wonder how the people over at Stanford feel about that. I don't hear anybody making a fuss about this guy. This whole thing in Europe right now is just, I think it's borderline out of control. I don't know what's going to end up. It's not going to be pleasant. Everybody's jocking for fun to watch. Well, sorry. It's going to be great fun to watch. What are you talking about? It's great. Well, okay. I'm going to put this, this is a page from the Washington Post. I'm going to put it in the Skype because I want you to look at this. I found this thing from the jester. It's called the internet AWACS.

CHAPTER 36 / 37 Discussion

Silent Circle Warrant Canary and US Strategy

The "warrant canary" for Silent Circle, a company specializing in encrypted communications, has disappeared, indicating they have likely been served with a secret government subpoena or National Security Letter. The hosts explain the concept of the canary as a way to alert users to surveillance when a company is legally barred from speaking.

silent circle· warrant canary· national security letter· encryption· fbi

2:27:15 I'm gonna post this link for you. Okay, let me see if I can figure out how to... Okay, I'm also gonna post it in the chat room so they can play with it. How artificial intelligence could help warn us of another Dallas? So this website, which is powered by artificial intelligence, analyzes posts on social media as well as police radio chatter and feeds of the local airspace in virtually any region. Its goal? To detect rumblings of unrest and alert the public. Now this is such, this is outrageous. But wait, but wait, but wait, but wait, it uses IBM's Watson AI

2:27:52 And it's... You know it doesn't work, that's a plus. And it's run by the Jester, as the Washington Post reports, the creator of the site who goes solely by his internet pseudonym, the Jester. That guy is an intelligence asset. This is known. Do you have this page loaded? Do you see this thing that he's made here? Yeah, I'm looking at it. We're at 40%. We're in blue. This is all... Okay, I get it. I know what this is. Yeah, because it's kind of mentioned in here. It's a native ad for IBM. This is a promotion for Mr. Robot. Oh, okay. That's a good one. Entertainment. Mr. Robot's coming up on the 17th. No, I don't think so. Yeah, that's what we always said. It always boils down to the entertainment industry. Yeah, but I think it's... Coming up on the 17th, it's in a week. It seems more like a native ad for IBM Watson.

2:28:45 It could be a d- doesn't mean they can't combine the two of them. There's no reason to put USA Networks, they mentioned USA's network, Mr. Roa, in this story. Oh really? Oh hold on, I didn't see that. Where does it say? Oh! Wow! Yes! Man. You got me. According to a recent blog post on the upcoming episode of US's Mr. Robot, this is bull crap. This is why we shouldn't even be looking at newspapers anymore. Because you don't know what's real anymore. It's no way to know. I don't know. It could have been a co-production of Watson and USA Networks, which have done a great job of promoting Mr. Robot starting last year when they started putting it on the internet. Can't believe the Washington Post fell for that. It was paid. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, paid.

2:29:36 Now you get paid. Nobody falls for anything. Hey, where's my money? Oops. Did you drive out? Where's my money? Where's my money? I probably did. It's been happening. My final story. Yeah, I know. I think I... You have trouble hearing me today, I'm pretty sure. It's not being great. Sorry. But for the amount of income we receive... Right. Silent Circle, who of course make the secure, hardened Android phones. They had a, a warrant canary and the warrant canary is gone. And for those, yeah, for those who don't know what a warrant canary is, we should have one actually. Companies like silent circle, other ones who have confidential information, since they can't, if you get a national security letter or some other form of warrant and you can't talk about it instead of saying, Hey, we received a warrant, we're being investigated. You kill the canary, you get rid of the canary. It's just a picture of a canary.

2:30:39 Oh! In a cage. Yeah. So the picture of the Silent Circles canary is gone. I remember this. Yes. The canary idea. Yeah. So Silent Circles... Warrant Canary... The canary is gone. So they've been served. Yes. That would... They've been served. Yeah. Yes. That would be the correct... Why, I wonder? Well, they deal exclusively in encrypted communications. Oh, well, if you're a customer of theirs, you're in trouble. Yeah. Big time. We should have one. We should have a warrant, Canary. Yeah, you know, the problem is neither one of us are that diligent. The thing would be there whether we served or not, or it would disappear by accident. Or I'll be rebooting something, and I'll slip it the finger. And then it'd disappear, that'd be the end of it. Dude's showing up with AR-15s at my house. You okay?

CHAPTER 37 / 37 Discussion

Syrian Rebels and Episode 841 Sign-off

The Pentagon-trained New Syrian Army suffered a defeat after US air support was diverted to Fallujah, leaving advanced weapons to be captured by ISIL. Adam Curry prepares for a trip to Las Vegas as the hosts sign off. The episode concludes with the "Donate to No Agenda" song and a montage of clips featuring James Comey and Hillary Clinton.

syrian army· isil· fallujah· pentagon· vegas· adios mofos

2:31:35 All right, give us one more to get into Sunday with that'll make us all happy. I know you got it. Okay, let's see if I got anything. I got a Dr. Kiki. I got a Dr. Kiki drop. It's been a really long time. Yeah. Well, I've got, that's pretty funny. I've got an ISO we can play, but I look for the other thing. Play up to shut up and accept ISO, which is from a new movie. Okay. The powerful control the lives of the powerless. That's the way the world works. It's unjust and it's unfair. But that's just too bad. We have to shut up and accept it. What movie is it from? So some upcoming movie called Mr. Fantastic or something sounds like a it's just about some guy who's I don't even know what the movie is about, but that was a clip I picked up. We can play the diplomat thing is going on in Russia, which is fishy. We talked about it and talked about it. It's continuing. I saw the video. It was great.

2:32:40 Jump right on top of you. That's great. Yeah. I was here, but here's a good here's a classic. All right, good gear. Good gear lost to ISIL. Another one of those stories where we have we're giving this a high then they just by the way, they showed this stuff. High tech stuff. Fantastic stuff. We give it to the good guys. Supposedly they, they leave it off. They run for their lives and leave the good shit behind. Thanks for joining us here on the program. A unit of Syrian rebels has suffered a defeat at the hands of ISIL after they were left without air cover from US jets which suddenly changed course to a different target. As a result, ISIL got their hands on advanced weapons supposedly given to the rebels by the Pentagon.

2:33:26 If there were airstrikes afterwards, we clearly didn't get everything because we saw Daesh displaying equipment that had been left behind by the new Syrian army as it pulled out of the area. RT's Caleb Mopar now explaining what has happened between the US and their Syrian allies on the ground. Reports are now coming out that last week when Pentagon trained forces were in the midst of their battle with ISIL and were relying on US air support, they found that support disappearing over the horizon and heading to a new target, raining their bombs down on the outskirts of the Iraqi city of Fallujah.

2:34:03 Explaining the decision, US top brass said there were only finite resources available and they needed to get their priorities right. And on this occasion Fallujah apparently delivered quote, the most bang for their buck. Now this incident raises new questions about the US strategy of training local forces. Yeah, yeah good stuff. It didn't make me smile it didn't if it was if it wasn't for us these guys would have no weapons to use to get the ISO guys No, all the stuff they have is ours. Yeah, how else do you think our economy runs drugs and guns? I think that's good enough. I think it is too all right everybody Yeah, so I'm heading off just just a quickie quickie to Vegas. Yeah, that's what it's called. Yeah a Vegas quickie. Oh

2:34:56 Well, it's called a quickie when he had quickie marriage quickie divorce. Ah that's called Not gonna happen all right if we're rooting for you. Yeah Thanks John ever here's the way the next show begins ladies and gentlemen Well John you were right I am bringing candles All right, everybody, we will be back on Thursday. Until then, coming to you from the skyscraper in the Crackpot condo in downtown Austin-Dayhouse, FEMA Region 6, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where is a nice day, I guess? It's not as warm as I'd like, but it's okay. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will be back on Thursday. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios, mofos!

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