Episode 836 · Thursday, 23 June 2016

Proof She's Human

The Department of Justice struggles to control the Orlando shooting narrative as the Brexit vote threatens the European Union and House Democrats launch a floor protest.

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About this episode

Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the Department of Justice face intense scrutiny following the release of redacted 911 transcripts from the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting. While Lynch initially framed the tragedy as an act of hate and intolerance, the subsequent release of unredacted documents and an interview with a witness named Miguel suggest a more complex narrative involving personal revenge and the shooter's alleged use of gay dating apps. The administration's focus on gun control and LGBT issues is contrasted with Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter's explicit link between the attack and ISIS.

In the United Kingdom, the Brexit referendum reaches a fever pitch as European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker warns that out is out for the British people. Despite these threats, an analysis of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty reveals a formal two-year negotiation window and a pathway for re-entry. Meanwhile, House Democrats led by John Lewis staged a televised sit-in on the House floor to demand gun control legislation, an event mocked by critics as a calculated campaign stunt amplified by social media and celebrity endorsements from Kim Kardashian. In the 2016 race, Donald Trump fires campaign manager Corey Lewandowski while trailing Hillary Clinton in fundraising, though internal polling shows him leading on economic trust.

This episode features the knighting of Sir John of South London and Sir Fahrenheit as the show deconstructs the Disney-produced rainbow propaganda at Orlando vigils. The hosts also examine Joe Biden's Freudian slip regarding Saddam Hussein and the ongoing dispute between Trent Reznor and YouTube over music royalty payments. Adam Curry shares his personal history with government watch lists during a critique of the no-fly list gun ban proposal.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Media Disinformation, Garbage Police, and Field Day

The hosts open the program discussing the "garbage police" in Berkeley, California, who reportedly use cameras to monitor recycling compliance. One host expresses physical illness from monitoring four days of cable news disinformation and misinformation. Plans are mentioned for an upcoming "field day" in the woods before the next Sunday broadcast.

media disinformation· berkeley· garbage police· field day· cable news

00:00 What are you talking about? Is there some gay app called Adam to Adam? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, June 23rd, 2016 and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 836. This is no agenda. It's breakfast in America. That means it's Brexit in the UK and we're broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region 6 Austin Tejas. Eeya on the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the garbage police are out. They're skulking around. I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Skulking? No, they're doing something. The garbage police. You're in trouble son. Yeah.

00:44 Yeah, garbage. Well, actually this Berkeley has a bunch of it's almost like England where they have the little garbage police. They have cameras in the in the big you put a you put a bottle in the garbage supposed to be in recyclables. Yeah, I'm writing you up. That's right. Shut up slave. That's all I need to know. I gotta tell you man, mom, I am so happy that I'm going into the woods tomorrow. The woods. For field day? Well, I'm going into the woods. Can we have a couple days before the Sunday show? I got, uh, I got like physically ill these past few days.

01:30 Okay, just from well as you know it's been very interesting on all the cable news networks And so I've just been watching them. You know for what is it now four days straight pretty much since Sunday show and the amount of bullcrap and lies and misinformation and disinformation and the American people for sure are not being served by anything that comes out of the telescreen and I got some great stuff to back that up, make it sicker. Alright, see if I can puke. Maybe puke, Johnny boy. Well... That's good. It depends on what direction we're going. First, I think before we even get to the puke part, I think we should at least mention or discuss the Brexit a little bit. Because that's what's happening today. That is what's happening. The show is being done. People are voting to leave or stay. And of course, I think they're going to stay. And I was thinking about this, and I'm of course an advocate of them leaving. I think it'd be better for the show. I will say we have boots on the ground.

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Brexit Referendum, Betting Odds, and English Language Influence

The UK's Brexit vote is underway with betting odds showing an 18% chance of leaving the European Union. A debate ensues regarding why English is the dominant business language in Europe, with one host attributing it to American media subtitles and the other to British imperial influence. American news coverage of the referendum is criticized for being simplistic and comparing the event to Texas seceding from the United States.

brexit· european union· nigel farage· betting odds· english language

02:32 comic strip blogger who I think normally resides in Deutschland has a Finland No, he's in Deutschland. Okay, and he's flown to London and he is giving real-time reports now the most important thing of course is the odds and I have the most recent odds for you for breakfast breakfast breakfast you like to hear that yes nine to two so that's a whole four to four point five about 18% chance I guess Wow, those odds are wild. Yeah, so that's kind of like, no one's leaving, no one's going nowhere is what's happening. Yeah, I think they were going to be correct on that. And I was thinking about this because I thought it would be better for them to leave for their own good.

03:18 But on the other hand, I was thinking about myself. And one thing Britain has done is that they have influenced a large part of Europe to speak English. Yes. Which is greatly beneficial to the monologists like myself who can speak one language. I can speak... I can speak hotel and food French and German. I would like to paré that. and say that is not entirely true. That is not my experience of why Europe speaks English. When I was living in the Netherlands in the 70s, 80s, and then later in 2000, it changed. But in the 70s, 80s, and actually even to the 90s,

04:04 You could not receive BBC or any, certainly BBC or any other, no other television, but BBC you could only receive if you had an antenna in the roof pointed towards England, because we didn't have, you know, that those agreements weren't done yet. You just couldn't get it. The problem is the United Kingdom broadcast their audio on a different sideband than the rest of Europe, at that time at least, in broadcast television. So you could see the picture, but you couldn't hear the sound. And it is my belief that it was American media with subtitles that really made that happen, and the countries that had subtitles speak great English. Germany, I think, is... they're okay, but not as good as other countries because they had overdubs. I would not attribute that to the UK.

04:52 Okay, well I can see, well the UK sure does. Of course, they're imperialistic. I've never given 100% credit for it, but I think that we do know that English is kind of the universal business language. So people, you know, especially in the Scandinavian countries, they all speak really good English. Everyplace else they speak fair English until you get into China and places like that and to the outskirts, even though they're trying to all speak English. But I think the English influence in the EU parliament... It's undeniable, undeniable. I think is a positive thing for the language. It's not for them. And in fact, the clips I have, I mean,

05:33 It's very slanted the American reporting on this is all for breakfast. You actually actually leave you actually staying you actually saw American reporting on it Wow In fact all the networks all the networks had at least a small you know 30-second little diddy. Yeah, yeah But I noticed not a single report that I saw it was very simple to explain people like whoa bill They want to leave but if you just said It's kind of like Texas wanting to secede from the United States, only it's Rhode Island. That would be much more simple for people to understand. Oh, okay, I get it. They want out of the union. I thought the explanations were dumb. Well, I never heard any good explanations. Right.

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

CBS News Reporting Tactics, Brexit Misdirection Analysis

An analysis of CBS News reporting on Brexit highlights a "misdirection" tactic where assertions are backed by unrelated clips. Factory operator Rowan Crozier is featured in a segment claiming uncertainty is "hurting" business, yet the audio only shows him being annoyed by American inquiries. The hosts argue this model of journalism creates false proof by cutting off speakers before they can express a complete thought.

cbs news· rowan crozier· media criticism· misdirection· journalism

06:18 Dumb or not. I did get a couple of, there's going to be a theme on today's show for me about CBS and the way they do a kind of misdirection. I never noticed, actually I think I've noticed it before but I've never noticed how bad it is. In fact, they have one, their Brexit clip or some part of it. This one is Brexit on CBS misdirection continues and I'll explain if you don't hear it yourself, I'll explain what I'm talking about. And the uncertainty is already hurting, says factory operator Rowan Crozier. I've had American customers ask me prior to placing new business with us in the last two months, what do you think is going to happen?

07:02 I don't know, I don't have a crystal ball. I know what I want to happen. Every major business group wants Britain to stay in. Wait a minute, explain. A lot happened there. Yeah. I got distracted by the choir. Everything they do is, CBS has really gotten to be perfecting this. First it starts off with the assertion that people are hurting. Right. And then they give it, they do it. Here's what CBS's model has become. You make an assertion and you back it up with a clip that's got nothing to do with anything as though that is the backup clip. Ah, gotcha. To prove your comment. So in this case, you can play this again, because it's pretty short. It looks long on there, because I clipped these at the wrong rate. But he says things are hurting, and then they go to this guy, this British guy, saying, as I guess supposed to exemplify how these people are hurting,

08:03 And then he says, I get a bunch of calls from Americans saying what's going to happen? And I say, I don't know. So is that supposed to exemplify hurting? Let's listen again. That's good. That's good. Let's listen again. And the uncertainty is already hurting, says factory operator Rowan Crozier. I've had American customers ask me prior to placing new business with us in the last two months, what do you think is going to happen? I don't know, I don't have a crystal ball. I know what I want to happen. Every major business group wants Britain to stay in. Ah, okay, I see what you're saying. That was completely nonsensical proof. He says things are hurting, says so-and-so, they go to him. He doesn't say things are hurting, he's just saying he's being annoyed by Americans. Asking questions. And then he says, I know what I'd like to happen,

08:58 But what is it? Because they don't give us that answer. They cut him off and they say all businesses want to stay in. So you have double, two in a row, two of these misdirections in a row and CBS does this all the time. They make an assertion, they kick it to somebody as proof. There's no proof in the clip. They cut the guy off before we know what he really thinks. He never says whether he wants to stay in or out. And then they make a claim. They've done, they did this with, I pointed this out during another clip fest we had about the Orlando shooting they pulled this stunt. Where they just put words in somebody's mouth.

09:39 It's like, it's so different from what the New York Times does, who are also chicken crap, because they'll do this whole thing, stay in, out of, and at the end of the article, it's always like, Well, we'll have to find out what happens! That's how the... It's the worst kind of journal. The New York Times always does that. Every time I see anyone go, well, could go either way. Either way, right. Why are we reading this article if this is the... We don't care what you... Well, you're right, John. Anything could go either way. Hold on, I need some Pepto-Bismol now. You're making it happen again. Good. I'm not kidding by the way, I was physically ill just from sitting here watching this. The show is gonna kill ya. Yes, I- it mined!

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Coverage, EU Bureaucracy, and Organic Farming

PBS NewsHour correspondent Malcolm Brabant reports on the Brexit sentiment in Ipswich, where "Remain" and "Leave" voters clash. The discussion shifts to the Lisbon Treaty and the frustration of UK citizens regarding regulations imposed by bureaucrats in Brussels. An anecdote about an organic pig farmer illustrates how EU rules prevent traditional practices like backyard slaughtering of livestock.

pbs newshour· malcolm brabant· brussels· lisbon treaty· organic farming

10:23 So that's the CBS model. I have another example later with Hillary, which is an even better example of this kind of reporting. By the way, I've gone to the three networks again, the three by three, and I've given up on NBC. They don't even have any news on NBC. So it's just completely out. So I'm going to kind of shift to France 24, go back to them. But CBS, their reporting is always like this. It's just These packages, they're just misleading. So here's a longer one. You can kill us as we go along. This is way too long. But this is the Brexit. The longest bit on Brexit was on PBS and this is how it went.

11:06 polls tomorrow to make a momentous decision on their future. Will they remain a part of the European Union or strike out on their own? NewsHour special correspondent Malcolm Brabant has been talking to people in the east of England. He brings us this report. With local polls suggesting that most East Anglians favor Brexit, the Remain campaigners cranked up their polite offensive in the market town of Ipswich. What do you think about it? Are you going to vote yes? Yeah, I'm going to vote to remain. Because I don't really see the point in not voting to remain because you literally lose so much. Oh yeah, well you'll be voting on Thursday. Do you know which way you're going to vote? Yeah, remain. Remain, fantastic, excellent. Out, definitely out. Okay, do you want to talk about it? Shut that bloody tunnel up, mate. Really? Shut that bloody tunnel up, mate.

11:59 This is really the main tactic that's been used is if you are for leave you're a racist and it's amazing how the same memes that we use here in the United States are being used in the UK. It's like if you have an issue with immigration you're racist of course you're racist racist. But her suggestion that immigration made the country's foundation stronger led a sharp response. My husband served 27 years in the military and what have we got to show for it? Nothing. Fighting to keep them out, definitely out.

12:41 100% out. My dad, his dad, my grandparents all fought to keep this country British. I don't know. What's going on? Is Britain about to chime in with a painful divorce after an often turbulent, fractious, and skeptical 43-year union with her neighbors across the North Sea? Interesting. It's... The 43-year union is not quite correct. That's bullcrap. That is, because it's really, it's 15 years old, a little younger than that, since the Lisbon Treaty. Only recently have they gotten to the point where, here's what the problem is, and this is what anyone's really voting against, not racism, is that they don't like their country being ruled by the bureaucrats in Brussels. Yes, of course. But the bureaucrats in the UK will have nothing of it because they know that's their ultimate... They have their own bureaucrats. And that's their retirement plan.

13:40 Not only that, but the British have always been great bureaucrats. Their governments have always worked well. These Brussels guys, there was a woman later in this report, you don't have to play any more of it, that ran an organic uh... pig farm and she says she can't even she can't sustain this farm anymore she's from italy and she's she's for for the brexit she says they these rules they can't there's no way you can slaughter pigs anymore you can't you know people used to be a lot of slaughter chickens and and uh... decent in their own backyard now it's against the law because of some ruling out of brussels you can do that she could she had to stop growing turkeys because you didn't you know you have to

14:23 Like for example, we buy our we buy heritage type turkeys up and some woman she grows about 20 of them for Thanksgiving and she butchers them. Yeah, can't do that. It's illegal and this sort of thing and that's really seems to me to be the pretty soon you won't be able to get real cheddar. No, not being made the way they know Belgians want you to make cheese Oh, no, and this is really what the problem is But this is being overlooked by all the scare tactics and the racism in fact the John last John Oliver show if anyone oh man Do you have a clip of that because I know I have a clip I could it was it I didn't I didn't put it in the pile But he had I had it and I deleted it. I was so sick of that mofo. Oh

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

John Oliver, UKIP Racism Claims, and Economic Experts

Comedian John Oliver is criticized for his coverage of the Brexit debate, specifically his labeling of UKIP supporters as racist. A clip from CNBC features Oliver mocking the "Leave" camp's distrust of economic experts from organizations like the IMF and OECD. The hosts discuss the negative perception of Donald Trump and Nigel Farage within the British Parliament.

john oliver· ukip· nigel farage· cnbc· economic experts

15:05 Well, I'll put it on for the next show because it's actually fascinating because he's got two examples of the outrageous racism of UKIP. And in one example, it's a guy bitching about a Sri Lankan family that is running for MPs. And he says they've only been in the country since the 70s and that doesn't make them British. So, okay, that's racist somehow. I hear a lot of people saying it's un-American about this and that, but we don't call it racism. And then he had one, then he had this follow-up one

15:43 Which was some woman saying that she doesn't, and this is pretty much what she said, I don't, I don't, I always have trouble with Negroes. I just don't understand them and I don't seem to get along with them. That's not racist. Oh, no, it's not only racist according to Oliver, it's horrific He says horrific or horrendous I think was horrific it's horrific I'll get anybody and then he has then the one that really got me He says somebody says we're gonna go get some Chinese some chinky Chinky food, but it was on the screen. He had this we're gonna get some chinky food He had the word chinky on the screen and Oliver

16:25 Says he can't say the word. He's on cable. He can say whatever he wants. He can say whatever he wants, but he can't bring himself to saying the word because it's so horrible. So he has completely gone off the rails with this sort of thing. I don't know who he's hanging out with, but it's obviously some, I don't know, I don't know. I have no idea, but it's not funny. Let's put it that way. Hold on a second because our good friend Stek just sent this to me. This is actually he already sent this to me. Let me see. I think he has the piece from Oliver here. Hold on. Let's see. John, thank you. John Harwood in Washington. This is, I think CNBC who showed this clip, but it's not the clip you're talking about. This is about all the experts. Hold on a second. Wait in on the debate last night. Thanks Stek.

17:15 There's an overwhelming consensus about the damage Britain could do to its economy by leaving. Reports by groups like the British Treasury, the Bank of England, the IMF, the OECD, the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Oxford Economics and the Centre for Economic Performance have all predicted that leaving would have a negative effect on the British GDP. And the pro-Brexit camp's response to that has not been great. I think the people in this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best in getting it consistently wrong. People, yes! F*** these eggheads with their studies and degrees! I get my economic forecast from Clever Otis, the GDP predicting horse!

18:06 We'll break down the possible Brexit results and... Yeah, so his point is... That wasn't a better clip. But his point is obviously that all the experts... I saw a grid that was going around on the face bag, which was kind of funny, I may have that, where they had who was for remain and who was for leave. And it had like, you know, it's a group to buy politicians, economists. Let me see if I can find this real quick, because it was pretty funny. And, you know, essentially is like people who are against Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, you know, like all the a-holes. All the a-holes over here. Everybody in England hates Donald Trump because it was

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Lisbon Treaty Article 50, Jean-Claude Juncker, and Rejoining the EU

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker warns that "out is out" regarding the UK's potential exit from the EU. However, a reading of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty reveals a two-year negotiation period and a formal process for a state to rejoin the union if they choose. The hosts argue that Juncker's "stark warning" is propaganda intended to protect banking interests.

article 50· lisbon treaty· jean-claude juncker· european commission· brexit

18:47 It was promoted, and so he... They had questions in parliament about him. Should he be let into the country? Yeah, they should...they almost banned him from going into the country for some reason. And by the way, we haven't forgotten that. We haven't forgotten that. I'll remember. Oh, yeah. Now, just for some technicalities, as you know, this program, this podcast, kind of started around the time that the Lisbon Treaty came out and was being re-voted on. And I read the whole Lisbon Treaty, including the protocols. I'm quite familiar with it. I had to brush up, it's a lot. And there are some very specific regs and rules about how an exit works, but maybe we should listen first to the elites in Brussels. In particular, we have Juncker the Drunker, who's quite clear about what has to happen and what can happen and how it will go. European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has issued a stark warning to the United Kingdom on the eve of the referendum on its EU membership.

19:47 Whatever the outcome of the vote, the UK has received the most it ever will from the 28-member bloc, he advised. But there will be no kind of any renegotiation. We have concluded a deal with the Prime Minister. He got the maximum he could receive and we gave the maximum we could give, so there will be no kind of renegotiation. Out is out. Out is out! But that's not entirely true. I thought it would be interesting just to read Article 50 briefly from the Lisbon Treaty so you know exactly what a Brexit would entail and how it works. First of all, any member state may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements. So that's... it's okay.

20:32 Second point, a member state which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention in the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that state, which he talked about, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 2.18.3 of the Treaty on the Function of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by Council, acting by a qualified majority. And then, the Treaty shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the Withdrawal Agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council in agreement with the Member State concerned unanimously decides to extend this period. So, they have two years to shore it up

21:20 and they can extend it if they ask for it. That's a long time. And it says the final point, if a state which has withdrawn from the union asks to rejoin, its requests shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49. So they could It's not done forever. It's just not true. At least according to... Yeah, he lied. Yes! Everyone's lying. Everyone says, we're out, we're out, that's it. It's not entirely true. It's all lies. You can come back in if you want to. You'd have to be admitted and I think everyone would be skeptical. But it's not true that you just... A, it's not true you can't leave and B, it's not true you can't rejoin. This seems more likely to put them in... I mean, they would be welcome back in the way I see it. I think so. I think so.

22:02 I think so you could leave and go oh my god this is terrible we're we screwed up we would like to get back in they would put him back in. Juncker is full of shit. He's drunk he's full of alcohol is what he is. I don't know about shit. So but that's the way it's being reported and that's just the way it goes to and it's all propaganda to get people to that's because so if the vote whatever happens they're not going to let them leave anyway because they The banks don't want it to happen. If you listen to the list that John Oliver perversely read out loud, it was all banks. I mean, it was bank-related. Everyone caught economic this, economic that, this bank, that bank.

22:45 You know, it was, there wasn't anything outside of a bank that he listed off that, you know, there wasn't any, I mean, sure, the University of Oxford University, all his colleges there probably would love to stay in and there's a bunch of academics that want to stay in. But anyone who runs a small business does nonsense that they're all against it. The fishery guys aren't. I don't know. They get now phished by the Danish because of the quotas. Yeah. There's a lot of problems with this thing. So the question is, when... this fails, which I'm pretty sure is going to happen, what will the reaction be? And what I've seen from European countries where it's something like this, there was something, especially I saw it in the Netherlands, you know, but, hey, you voted no, do over. Hey, you can't do that. Do over, just vote again. And then when they have a referendum, yeah, yeah, your referendum doesn't really count. We don't give a crap. We're not going to do anything about it. People start to shut down because they have no power at that point.

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Orlando Shooting, 911 Call Transcripts, and Loretta Lynch

Attorney General Loretta Lynch discusses the release of partial, redacted transcripts of the Orlando shooter's calls with law enforcement. Speaker Paul Ryan and other Republican leaders criticized the redactions as "preposterous," leading the DOJ to release unredacted versions within four hours. The hosts suggest the redaction controversy was a distraction to prevent the public from demanding the actual audio recordings.

orlando shooting· loretta lynch· fbi· 911 transcripts· paul ryan

23:45 They have... They come to the realization that they have no power. They come to the realization that they have no power, right. Yeah. Right. Which is why we have guns. Yeah, you laugh. But I think it makes a difference. Well, we can now transfer to the second story, which is the one that I think is amusing. It also brings in some more propaganda. Yeah. I'd like to start with something that I tweeted out on Monday. Which of course, in hindsight, there's some interesting things she said. This was about the transcript. Now she pre-sold this transcript. I'm trying to think what this was on.

24:36 You tweeted out about the transcript of the 911 call. You tweeted out that, oh, first they sent out a redacted transcript, then an unredacted transcript, rather than letting us listen to the 911 call. Well played. That was exactly, pretty much your tweet. And I agreed, I said, yeah, that was actually pretty cool because all the media, nobody is saying anything. Can we hear this? There's a transcript you've given us. Can we hear this? Because I'll remind people that the one witness that was sitting right there next to him as he made that call was bitching about Afghanistan and that wasn't even in this transcript. So here's Loretta Lynch, the attorney general. This was on Chuck Todd's show. And we're talking about the Orlando shooting, by the way, if anyone can keep up.

25:26 We're talking about guns because of course that's not terrorism, it's guns. So here... Guns. This is what made me send the tweet out but there's something else in here that she promises which never materialized and well there's an obvious conclusion to this. I'm going to be going to Orlando this week. Are you going to be announcing any new parts of the investigation? Yes, I'll be going to Orlando on Tuesday to continue my briefings in the case. Actually, though, what we're announcing tomorrow is that the FBI is releasing a partial transcript of the killer's calls with law enforcement from inside the club. These are the calls with the Orlando PD negotiating team who were trying to ascertain. Now notice what she's saying. She's saying transcripts between the shooter and the Orlando negotiating team.

26:10 Sadly, we never saw those transcripts. We saw a summary. We saw no transcripts. Who he was, where he was, why he was doing this, all the while the rescue operations were continuing. That'll be coming out tomorrow and I'll be headed to Orlando on Tuesday. Including the hostage negotiation part of this. Yes, it will be primarily a partial transcript of his calls with the hostage negotiators. You say partial, what's being left out? Thank you. What we're not going to do is further proclaim this individual's pledges of allegiance to terrorist groups and further his propaganda. So we're not going to hear him talk about those things? We will hear him talk about some of those things. You hear what she's saying? We will hear him talk about some of those things. But we're not going to hear him make his assertions of allegiance in that. This will not be audio. Why?

26:54 a printed transcript, but it will begin to capture the back and forth between him and the negotiators. That's where Chuck Todd should say, why not just the audio? We're trying to get as much information about this investigation out as possible. As you know, because the killer is dead, we have a bit more leeway there, and so we will be producing that information tomorrow. Okay, so what and I think it was a very smart strategy She and the entire administration Whatever happens they do not want the word terrorism or anything like that brought into the conversation So the strategy to say well, we're gonna release a partial transit partial transit, but yeah, we'll release partial transcripts from the negotiate negotiations then

27:36 Then it was, I think, Paul Ryan who started bitching about it two days later. And then Amito, okay, well here you are, full transcript. And everyone's done. Everybody's done. Not well. Since you released the full transcript, could we hear the audio? No. No one even asked for it. And there was no transcript, not even a partial transcript of the negotiating team. None of that. It just wasn't there. Very disappointing here's ABC with a report about it earlier on Monday The FBI was criticized by Republican leaders for releasing a transcript with the shooters pledged to Isis redacted speaker Paul Ryan said selectively editing this transcript is preposterous and The public should be clear-eyed about who did this investigators backtracked

28:25 releasing the transcript without redactions. By releasing it with redactions at first, the Justice Department says they didn't want to create a platform for propaganda. But Nora, after being pummeled by reporters and asked why they weren't being transparent, the Justice Department within four hours said, here's the script unredacted. You guys are creating an unnecessary distraction. No, I'd say it was exactly the distraction they wanted. Not an unnecessary distraction. Right. It took people off the track of asking to hear the tape, what he had to say. Yes. So I was. Yeah. Well, you can just continue a little bit here with the country singer.

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Department of Justice Response, Hate vs Terrorism Narrative

Attorney General Loretta Lynch frames the Orlando shooting as an act of "hate and intolerance" rather than Islamic terrorism, emphasizing a message of "compassion and love." This contrasts with Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, who explicitly linked the attack to the military campaign against ISIS. The hosts argue the administration is intentionally steering the narrative away from terrorism to focus on gun control and LGBT issues.

loretta lynch· ashton carter· isis· lgbt community· department of justice

29:05 Sure. Okay. So, Loretta Lynch goes to Orlando and she does a press conference which I saw in its entirety of course and here she is with the explanation of why this took place. There is no doubt that this was a shattering attack on our nation, on our people, and on our most fundamental ideals. But the message of Orlando goes far beyond one night of unspeakable terror. The message of Orlando that I have seen today and what the American people have seen in the wake of this horrific assault is a message of determination to remove hatred and intolerance from our midst, to live our lives freely and without fear, and to stay true to the principles of liberty, justice, and equality that define America at our best. So it's hate and intolerance. I was blown away by this.

30:00 It was hate and intolerance. It wasn't terrorism. At the same time... Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter is giving a speech wherein he says this. including here at home. In Orlando, further steals are resolved to carry out all the aspects of our coalition military campaign plan. Okay, so someone's at odds here as to what's going on where the Secretary of Defense is saying, no, this is ISIS directly related to Orlando.

30:53 How do we solve this problem? Now, this is the part that is key to everything that is happening in our country, in these United States. This is the thinking, and although I am all for rainbows and effing unicorns, people, this is not the answer. This Department of Justice and your country stands with you in the light. We stand with you to say that the good in this world far outweighs the evil. that our common humanity transcends our differences and that our most effective response to terror and to hatred is compassion, to unity, and it's love. Oh yes we're gonna solve everything with love. Yeah this clip I missed. I mean I knew about this clip because all the right-wing talk shows are all over it ridiculing it exactly the same way you are you right winger. I'm a total Republican I guess. And I just thought it was out

31:49 outrageous and I don't know what she was thinking or who was supposed to I guess that I don't know I did when I heard it I said holy this is the whole thing John stupidest thing I have ever heard not really because we want love yeah for whatever reasons it is clear that this was being steered towards one thing and one thing only this was hate and it was hate on our LGBT community which I will reiterate is not a community and we're gonna hear why in a moment and But there were some interesting questions during this press conference. This one was quite telling. They don't know where his wife is!

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

Omar Mateen Autopsy, HIV Status, and "Miguel" Interview

A reporter questions Loretta Lynch about whether Omar Mateen's autopsy revealed an HIV-positive status. This follows a Univision interview with a man codenamed "Miguel," who claims to be Mateen's former lover. Miguel asserts that the shooting was an act of revenge against Puerto Rican gay men after Mateen believed he was exposed to HIV during a sexual encounter.

omar mateen· univision· hiv· puerto rican· democracy now

32:35 Right. They don't know where she is. Yeah, she disappeared. So this stinks to high heaven. High, high heaven. Now, here's the one that that really prick my ears. I'm like, hold on a second. I got to record this. What is going on? There's this and that, of course, unfolded yesterday. This is some guy like some Asian guy or something, and she can't understand what he's asking. But I think you can probably guess. I'm sorry. Omar Mateen have HIV in the autopsy? So what he's asking is did Omar Mateen have HIV according to the autopsy? I don't have that information for you, I'm sorry. Ultimately we are trying to obtain the autopsy reports for everyone who lost their life. The victims will probably come first and then ultimately his. On the information there we will see if we can... Why would they prioritize the victims?

33:33 Because, I don't know why, I think she wasn't aware of what was going on in the background to this. And the background is this former lover, codenamed Miguel, whose face apparently has been made over to look like a burn victim. Not quite sure what the deal was with that. Well, they had actually, and I have a clip of... I have a better clip than you do. Because I got my clip from democracy now. I got the source, but okay. Let's go. I have that too the guy yeah, let's go Well first of all let's go back to this I looked at this whatever they put on his face, and they also changed his voice So it's I have that clip, but I think it's pretty useless to listen to it But you may have a longer version of that that you may beat me on that one, but I looked at this face

34:19 I didn't know the burn victim part of it. I just thought it was some ugly bastard. It didn't even look like a burn victim to me. I don't know. What did you see? I saw a burn victim. Huh? That's what I saw. Well, I thought the guy was, uh, well, before you play that clip, let me just play the short Democracy Now! clip with the kicker in it, because I had already mentioned a couple of times that the majority of the people shot were Puerto Ricans. Yes. The mainstream media does not want to discuss this. It's okay to hate gays, but it can't be Puerto Rican gays. It's crazy. Yeah, Puerto Rican gays. And what's really annoying is that when you look at the democracy now, which does not, you know, they have their own agenda. They're not being told what to talk, what to say by the CIA or anybody else or by big corporate interests, but they have their own agenda. It's just different than everybody else's. And so they'll do these reports, I think with a little more, uh,

35:17 And they try to, they never try to, they try never to editorialize, which can be somewhat annoying because they mostly editorialize by what stories they pick. Let's do your clips, yeah. Just play this one clip, the first one. Which is Alternative Orlando? Yeah. With Kicker? Yeah. A man who claims he was the lover of Orlando shooter Omar Mateen has told Univision he believes Mateen committed the shooting for revenge, not terrorism. The man who wore a disguise and called himself Miguel said Mateen bore a grudge against Puerto Rican gay men, including one who revealed he was HIV positive following a sexual encounter with Mateen. Now, that's kind of short. It is short, but it brings up that that

36:05 story got out to the reporters and that's why that guy, that Chinese guy, I guess because through alternative media, knew about it to ask Loretta Lynch and I'm not absolutely sure she knows about it. I'm positive. I saw her face and I saw her go, what? No, she's not in on this at all. I'd like to play, this was 20 minutes, I got it down to three and a half, just the important parts and let's just listen to it and see where we strand. Why is the FBI interrogating you? The FBI interrogating me because... They started to put the posts in the news about they looking for information about gay people who have intercourse with Omar over the gay apps like Grounder.

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

Gay Dating Apps, FBI Interrogations, and Pulse vs Parliament

The witness "Miguel" describes his interactions with the FBI regarding Omar Mateen's use of gay dating apps like Grindr and Adam4Adam. Miguel claims he spoke to the FBI after consulting with therapists and social workers. He suggests that if Mateen were a true terrorist, he would have targeted the "Parliament" resort in Orlando, which has a larger capacity than the Pulse nightclub.

grindr· jack'd· adam4adam· fbi· pulse nightclub

36:53 Jack D and the older one is Adam for Adam. I have a problem with that. Why is the older gay app Adam for Adam? Why does Adam have to be the older gay app? This is very, very protubing. I can tell you a day. Hold on a second. Besides the fact that this gets hard to hear. Yeah. What are you talking about? Is there some gay app called Adam to Adam? Adam for Adam. Apparently there's he talks about three. He talks about Grindr, Jacked, which he calls Jack D, Jacked and Adam for Adam. Then so this is this is what yeah, who know also available on Android one is Adam for oven I can tell you a gay freaky out I got very paranoid so

37:33 So just to translate, he's saying he heard the cops were looking for anybody who had had sex with him. So he decided to voluntarily talk to the cops. But there's something that he mentions before that. So he spoke to his therapist and his social workers. Mind controlled. I'm very, very suspicious of this. Therapy. So I'm thinking this guy at this point... And the drugs. Don't forget the drugs that came into the picture on the last show we talked about. The back and forth he had with one of his buddies about you taking your medications. The guy's on something. He's on something. He's seeing... Okay. All right.

38:17 I'm hanging in there. Okay, so he says I'm you know, I've spoke to my therapist and to my social workers Why I mean, why does he have social workers? What's going on? What's with the social worker bit? You know, these are things that I questions about Speak to my therapist in my social workers. I crying a lot and I decide before They show up at my house because they're going to find me sooner or later. So his therapist and his social workers told him they're going to find you sooner or later. You better tell him this story. I decided to... And when this guy's talking, and really the only thing you can see is his eyes, and his eyes really don't match the face.

38:59 When people are recalling things, they have a, you know, you either look up left or look up right. This guy's eyes were shifting left and right, not up, left and right the whole time. Approached to the office, I identified myself and I tell him who I am. You had a relationship with Omar Martín? Yes, I have a relationship with Omar Martín. Did you have sex with him? Yes, I do. Did you have a long relationship with him? I'm not gonna see that longer because that was only two months But yes, we was like the calling friend with benefits benefits Okay, we benefits. Why do you think that Omar Mateen went into Pulse on that Saturday night and killed 49 people? To tell you the truth

39:45 After we had the conversation about the two Puerto Rican who he has the three sons and then one of the Puerto Rican told him I'm HIV positive now. This is very interesting This is what? Brian the gay crusader and I call the Andrew Cunanan defense if you remember that this was the guy who killed Johnny Versace in Florida and The story was going around that he had contracted AIDS and therefore wanted to kill gays. It's the same story. It's the same defense. It's a little pathetic.

40:27 Plus all the the sections and all the the rejection you got it I believe and I really think all his angers he hate Puerto Rican gay Puerto Ricans Okay, he hates gay Puerto Ricans all the bad thing they do to him all the bad things they do to him This is sound bad, and I know a lot of people we're going get a lot of pain and for what I'm going to say. Yeah, what he's saying is there is no such thing as the LGBT community. There's all kinds of racism and shit going on and sexism and anger and tricks and just bullcrap. It's not really a community. But I believe this crazy horrible thing he did, it was a revenge. You think that this was not terrorism? I don't. You think that it was revenge? So first he says, no, it's not terrorism, it was revenge. That's the script. For gay Puerto Ricans?

41:22 from which he felt rejected. Yes I do because like I told him to the FBI agents if you are a terrorist and you really want to kill a lot of people. This is why this interview is not airing. He said, he told the FBI agent that he told him, hey, you're a terrorist and you want to kill all these people? You don't go to Pulse. Pulse is nothing compared with the Parliament. Now, this is interesting. He's saying that the Pulse nightclub, if you really wanted to kill a lot of people, would not be the place to go because there's other place called Parliament, which is where these two apparently met.

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Mateen Family Dynamics, Islam, and USAID Funding

The interview with "Miguel" explores the conflict between Omar Mateen and his father, Seddique Mateen, regarding their interpretations of Islam. The hosts discuss reports that Seddique Mateen may have received funding through USAID or the Broadcasting Board of Governors. They suggest the father's immigrant background and alleged radical views provide political ammunition for Donald Trump.

omar mateen· seddique mateen· usaid· islam· afghanistan

41:58 That's a lot more people, has a restaurant, bar, hotel, just a lot more people. Parliament is a disco, is a hotel, and is a bar. And they go a lot of people. Your name is not Miguel and we have altered your appearance. Yes. Why is it important for you to tell your story but not to show your face? I... It's important for me because I don't know what kind of reaction his father can have, but also I don't know what kind of reaction This organization Isis can have to because I know by the news assume He'd be what he did. I say we did it you fear for your life Yeah, you hear what he's really rolling out the script That for what happened is my responsibility

42:51 Citizen of the United States in a citizen in a gay man. They cannot even think this is was a terrorist They need to go something else because by today is too many answer is too many question. They have to be answer Okay, so you hear what he's saying? He said it's very important for me to tell you that this is even though it was all Terrorist stuff in the background and he'll get to his father here in a moment. It's not terrorism Even though Omar Mateen said to the police on the 911 calls that he was doing this in the name of ISIS and of the leader of ISIS, you believe that it was not terrorism? I believe they are not terrorists. Why would he say that? I believe it's not terrorist because in why he say that maybe he want to die as a hero for something horrible he do. He think he probably he was in

43:44 a huge argument or fight with his father. The way his father think about the Islam is not the way Omar always think. Omar... What was the difference between the way that Omar saw Islam and the way his father saw Islam? The difference between Omar and his father is Omar, when I asking about the Muslim religion, Omar tell me Islam, the Muslim, is about love, spiritual. Everybody's welcome, everybody's accepted. But his father say, no, gay people is the most denigrated person we can have in this earth. Gay people is the devil and gay people have to die. I think this is where it went wrong for whoever programmed this guy. What? Well, because they're bringing in... So the father is a problem.

44:39 Yeah, totally. Because, you know, we know that he was funded at least partially through USAID or other State Department broadcast board of governor funds. And I have not seen this picture that we've seen of him at the State Department, you know, thumbs up. And no one's talked about that because, of course, that would put him much closer to the Hillary camp at that point. So this is, you know, to have and of course, this gives Trump all the would give Trump all the ammunition he needs by saying, hey, the father was an immigrant. from Afghanistan and he propagated this hate and death to gays upon his son. Yeah, but we can't be hard to fight the the basic narrative that's being put out there though Which is why you don't see this anywhere of course not you're not gonna see it anywhere except on the Noah jet We're not even seeing it on the Noah agenda sure we can't even show it You only place you're gonna hear this is on this show which I think people should realize as they listen to this I want to play the alternative theory clip 3 because it kind of hooks in with your other Loretta Lynch stuff and

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

LGBT Identity, Peter Thiel, and Disney Rainbow Propaganda

Loretta Lynch's call for the LGBT community to "stand in the light" is compared to the outing of Peter Thiel by Gawker. The hosts argue that individuals should have the right to keep their sexual orientation private for professional or personal reasons. A claim is made that a rainbow appearing during an Orlando vigil was a man-made effect created by Disney for propaganda purposes.

loretta lynch· peter thiel· gawker· disney· rainbow

45:40 This is what her response to, this is another response that kind of brings in your, again, your thesis that the LGBTQQAAPYQ. LGBTQQIAP, yeah. Those guys. That they're not a community. Listen to this clip. This is very funny. It's a good break. Attorney General Loretta Lynch says investigators may never identify a single motive in the Orlando massacre called both an act of terror and hate. After meeting with relatives of the victims in Orlando, Lynch expressed solidarity with the LGBT community. And let me say to our LGBT friends and family, particularly to anyone who might view this tragedy as an indication that their identities, that their essential selves might somehow

46:29 be better left unexpressed or in the shadows. This Department of Justice and your country stands with you in the light. Oh man. Yeah. Now she says, she goes on to say that people should come out of the closet. I know. Are you nuts woman? Well, I mean, this is why Peter Thiel got so irked. I mean, he wasn't known to his friends. He was gay, but he didn't need to have it on Gawker. You know, because he had reasons to not be walking around as an outed gay. So he has business deals. Who knows what's going on? He might be doing something like, I'm reminded that the kind of bigotry we have, especially in Silicon Valley, in all kinds of ways. I'm reminded of the time I went shooting with a CEO friend of mine who told me to never mention that I've ever been shooting with him. Yeah. No, that's not acceptable.

47:22 It's because of this kind of thing and so you know, he got to be outed. And so Peter Thiel got irked about this and I don't blame him. And this is nonsense, I mean what she's saying. People should have, why don't you mind your own business? If you want to be an out gay, fine. If you don't want to be for whatever reason, that's good too. What difference does it make to you? And just to bring the whole bull crap full circle, The rainbow, when they had the vigil, I believe was man-made. Disney is very good at making rainbows. There was a guy who died last year. He's the rainbow guy. He used to do rainbows for Coke and for Nike, and he'd do rainbows over buildings, and it was like, everyone's like, oh, it's a rainbow, oh, it's perfect timing. No, no, no, Disney knows how to do this. And I just looked at him like, that looks pretty created to me.

48:16 I don't know anything about this rainbow. I didn't see a photo or anything. It's just another one of those things. It's all subtle propaganda. It just goes on so deep that the two of us can only catch a bit of it. Right. But the absolute bottom line was he claimed terrorist attack, he claimed his allegiance, whatever it was, that is really just being excluded and that's because we wanted to use this to Push through common sense gun legislation. Which just turned into, well, before we go anywhere, what really, what really... So a couple of things. First of all, you played that clip of CBS where they went to go buy a gun. Like, oh!

49:05 You could buy a gun. And every... I'm shocked that you could buy a gun and they quickly got rid of it because God knows you don't want to have a gun around. Right. And every local station had a version of this, except I didn't get the clip. There was one, there was one local station, the guy was going to... You're right, because our stations, a couple of our local stations... They're all doing it. ...did the same thing. They bought a gun. They're doing it. Now... It's like, let's buy a gun day. Yeah. I don't know what happened in that clip. There was one guy from a local station and they did the background check, which you know, If it's not a busy time, it doesn't take that long. It can take a couple, like a minute to do the background check. So they call it in. And the guy was declined because he had known alcohol abuse and he had been arrested once on domestic violence. They said, no, you can't have a gun, which shows the background checks work. They put that on the air? That's why I don't have a clip.

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

Gun Control Media Stunts, Background Checks, and AR-15 Confusion

Media outlets are criticized for segments where reporters attempt to buy firearms to prove how "easy" the process is. Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America clarifies the difference between military fully automatic weapons and the semi-automatic rifles used in domestic shootings. The hosts argue that the "assault style" label is a cosmetic description rather than a functional one.

gun control· ar-15· sig sauer mcx· nics· larry pratt

48:16 I don't know anything about this rainbow. I didn't see a photo or anything. It's just another one of those things. It's all subtle propaganda. It just goes on so deep that the two of us can only catch a bit of it. Right. But the absolute bottom line was he claimed terrorist attack, he claimed his allegiance, whatever it was, that is really just being excluded and that's because we wanted to use this to Push through common sense gun legislation. Which just turned into, well, before we go anywhere, what really, what really... So a couple of things. First of all, you played that clip of CBS where they went to go buy a gun. Like, oh!

49:05 You could buy a gun. And every... I'm shocked that you could buy a gun and they quickly got rid of it because God knows you don't want to have a gun around. Right. And every local station had a version of this, except I didn't get the clip. There was one, there was one local station, the guy was going to... You're right, because our stations, a couple of our local stations... They're all doing it. ...did the same thing. They bought a gun. They're doing it. Now... It's like, let's buy a gun day. Yeah. I don't know what happened in that clip. There was one guy from a local station and they did the background check, which you know, If it's not a busy time, it doesn't take that long. It can take a couple, like a minute to do the background check. So they call it in. And the guy was declined because he had known alcohol abuse and he had been arrested once on domestic violence. They said, no, you can't have a gun, which shows the background checks work. They put that on the air? That's why I don't have a clip.

49:55 Of course they didn't put that on the air. Oh, okay. Oh, that's why because they never put it on the air because heaven forbid you showed that side of the process. No, no, no, no, no, you can't. This is all to do with Obama trying to close out his presidency with something positive that he can point to for the other Democrats. Something big. Something big. We did this, we did that. Yeah, something big. And so now they've got this... Well, here's the problem. Across the board, and I'm talking about media to the representatives in government, the confusion about, A, which weapon was used,

50:33 And so it's continuously being called an AR-15. What an assault weapon is, what an assault style weapon is. It was un- I heard congress people yelling, we shouldn't have machine guns in the hands of crazy people. I mean they have no idea what they're talking about. Absolutely zero. Here's an example of some douche on MSNBC. This is uh Larry Pratt, who's from the Gun Owners of America, I think. Just listen to the confusion that he's trying to set straight here. So do you think that all Americans should have access to consume and purchase the same style of weapons as our American military?

51:14 Well, actually we make a distinction. The American military uses fully automatic firearms. The firearm that was used in Orlando was a semi-automatic that has been available for probably 50 years on the American market. So we've got to be careful that we don't conflate things that are not the same at all. The American military uses a firearm that can be purchased in the United States, but it's very difficult, it's highly restricted, some states ban them altogether. And we're not talking about those kinds of guns. We're talking about what's been on the market since the 1950s. Well, the AR-15, those style assault rifles, yes. The Sig Sauer MCX was only introduced in January.

51:59 of 2015. But it's not substantially different from the R15. It's a semi-automatic. It accepts a large box magazine. Nothing revolutionary about that. So it just keeps on going. The news whores and the politicians, most of them, they don't even know what laws are on the books. There are federal background checks. It differs per state about waiting periods, etc. But when people are surprised by saying, oh my God, you got a gun in seven minutes. Yeah, well, it could have taken a half hour, depends on how busy the actual NICS database people were.

52:43 So that's part one. And then part two, it's an assault style weapon, style, style, style, style. It is not an assault weapon that fires fully automatic. It's an assault style BB gun. And I did this yesterday. It's the look of the gun that when you say assault style, that's a style like a old 57 Cadillac is a finned car. That's a style. It's not anything else. And I did this with Tina. last night, I said, Hey, let's take a look. I have an AR-15. So just take a look. So now look at this, you see this around the, see, look at this, look at the hole in the barrel. It's pretty much a 22. It's high powered, but it's a 22. Now let's look, if I remove this scary looking flashlight and this, this red dot thing, oh, and look at this thing around the barrel. It's plastic. Now, now imagine the grip is gone. What are you seeing? You're seeing a rifle, no different, but it looks scary. It's the same

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Second Amendment Rights, No-Fly Lists, and Pre-Crime

The hosts discuss the proposal to ban individuals on the "no-fly list" from purchasing firearms, arguing it violates due process and the Second Amendment. Adam Curry recounts his personal experience being placed on a watch list for two years without explanation. They contend that using secret government lists to restrict constitutional rights sets a dangerous "pre-crime" precedent.

second amendment· no-fly list· due process· adam curry· constitutional rights

51:59 of 2015. But it's not substantially different from the R15. It's a semi-automatic. It accepts a large box magazine. Nothing revolutionary about that. So it just keeps on going. The news whores and the politicians, most of them, they don't even know what laws are on the books. There are federal background checks. It differs per state about waiting periods, etc. But when people are surprised by saying, oh my God, you got a gun in seven minutes. Yeah, well, it could have taken a half hour, depends on how busy the actual NICS database people were.

52:43 So that's part one. And then part two, it's an assault style weapon, style, style, style, style. It is not an assault weapon that fires fully automatic. It's an assault style BB gun. And I did this yesterday. It's the look of the gun that when you say assault style, that's a style like a old 57 Cadillac is a finned car. That's a style. It's not anything else. And I did this with Tina. last night, I said, Hey, let's take a look. I have an AR-15. So just take a look. So now look at this, you see this around the, see, look at this, look at the hole in the barrel. It's pretty much a 22. It's high powered, but it's a 22. Now let's look, if I remove this scary looking flashlight and this, this red dot thing, oh, and look at this thing around the barrel. It's plastic. Now, now imagine the grip is gone. What are you seeing? You're seeing a rifle, no different, but it looks scary. It's the same

53:40 for the same reason we have Hummers to look militaristic. Most of our SUVs today look militaristic. We have sports cars. No one needs a sports car on the road. That's true, but it's not against the lobby. And by the way, sports cars can go much faster and do other things. And then of course the question came, yeah, but when I had to go get my driver's license, I had to bring my birth certificate and proof of address and all this. I said, yes, yes. And you know what? Cars kill 10 times as many people per year as guns. And that's including the suicides. And it's not a constitutionally protected right. And this is where the problem came about. And I'll just explain briefly what the problem is. Now, I'm sure you have clips. I got some clips.

54:25 So, we have this thing called the no-fly list. And I've been on a list, not a no-fly list, I was on a no-enter-the-country list for two years. You remember this, John. Every single time. We had it on the show. You made surreptitious recordings of the people. This was during the early days of the show when we were looking for material and we hadn't quite found our style of show, which is deconstruction. And yes, and you were...and it became a humorous bit. And I would actually, I would, because I was flying between London and San Francisco, I would arrive in San Francisco. Two, the first time it happened, two uniformed officers took me off the plane as first. And I'm like, wow, that's pretty cool. This Virgin Atlantic. An escort. Yeah, I thought I was getting an escort. Now, of course, one of these guys recognized me and

55:13 And later I was like, wow, they felt really uncomfortable because there's an Adam Curry or there was in Oklahoma, it was in private. Is there something wrong? I thought it was in North Dakota. Could have been North Dakota. Yeah. And what happened every single time, I would be detained for two to three hours where they go through everything in my bag. And I'd be like, why can't I just go in? Yeah, well, you can't. They wouldn't explain anything. And I remember one time when I hauled the hell out of my passport and said, is this not fucking enough to get into my own goddamn country? An extra three hours. Shut up. No. Well, yeah, if you cuss at him like that. It was the fourth time it happened. I was mad.

55:54 because they couldn't explain it to me. Now, eventually I magically was taken off the list, but you have no way to address that. And of course, when you're entering the country, you actually don't have rights. So there was not much I could do. But the no-fly list is... you could argue, I think I would argue that it is restriction of movement, although you can choose other means of transportation. But what the populace who are now sitting on the floor in the House of Representatives, what they're saying they want is if you're on the no-fly list, which is a suspicion, it's a suspicion, it's a pre-crime suspicion that you are a terrorist, then you should not have a gun.

56:44 Unfortunately, if you say, okay, you can't do that, then it's only one step to say, well, then you can't have a blog, you can't have a phone, you can't have free speech or any number of constitutional amendments that are... No phone list. Yeah, which are incredibly important. And of course, you're throwing out statistics, 90% of the people want this. And now it's just turned into this big PR for

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

NRA Response, FBI Informants, and Watch List Pings

NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre explains that the FBI often removes names from watch lists to monitor suspects and build cases without alerting them. The hosts suggest the Orlando shooter was likely "infiltrated" or vetted by the FBI prior to the attack. They argue that the current legislative push is a "show" for the November elections rather than a functional security measure.

wayne lapierre· nra· fbi· orlando shooter· informants

57:19 uh, to hurt the Republicans in a, and this is the reason why I don't, I never, I can't vote for people in a party because parties are filled with assholes. I don't care which one you're in. And all they want to do is embarrass people by saying, you, we need to vote. We deserve a vote. And of course they're all going to say no, because you really can't give this No, the reason they're saying no, the reason they're Ryan saying no is because what they want to vote on is exactly the same bills that the Senate already voted against. It is a complete moment of futility. It's just a show. That's what I'm saying. Oh, the guy voted for it, but he didn't vote for it. Whether you vote for it or not is academic. So these guys are just, these guys are making fools of anyone who supports this stupid sit-in. And I do have one sit-in. Wait, wait, before you do that, I just want to, I'm not a fan of the guy, but he made a lot of sense here. What's his name?

58:16 The LaPierre, whatever, the NRA president. Yeah, listen to what he said. You know, let me talk about the watch list. I have never seen so much misinformation and poorly researched stories the last week as that, as we've seen. What happens on the watch list, people forget law enforcement set it up. They set it up exactly the way they wanted it, federal law enforcement. NRA didn't take the guy's name off the list, the federal government did, FBI did, largely because of some of these political policies that I think I've been talking about earlier. Here's what would have happened if they left him on the list. People don't understand this. There would have been a ping.

58:52 Go into the federal government. They would have talked to the guy but actually put his name on the list There would have been a three-day delay during that delay if the government wanted to stop it. They could go to court They could stop it what law enforcement wants to do 90% of the time 99% of the time is let it go through they want to watch it They want to build a case. They want to build patterns you see So none of it makes total no sense. And we know they do this. The watch list is just so they can track you and see if you do something. And we just before you move on to this, when you take it back to this, to this Orlando shooter, he was clearly vetted, set up. He had informants talking to him. This guy, it would, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. They wanted it the way they wanted it to, but the guy was already messed up and it went out of control.

59:39 They went out of control. It was not supposed to go down like this, but this guy was definitely, definitely, completely infiltrated by FBI trying like they do so many other times and every single affidavit where they get down, they actually will buy the phony explosive. Here, here's the button. Just press the button so we can arrest you. Yeah, we discussed this on the last show that there's evidence of this. Well, let's get back to the sit-in, which you were somehow drifted off of. Yeah, no, I just wanted to make that point. Yes, back to the sit-in. No, so the sit-in is just a show for no good reason. At what point, John, at what point did... What is that? What is the old grouch's name that we're always laughing about? The old guy? John Lewis. No! I thought it was the other guy.

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

House Democrats Sit-in, John Lewis, and Social Media Coverage

House Democrats, led by civil rights icon John Lewis, staged a sit-in on the House floor to demand a vote on gun control legislation. The protest was broadcast via Periscope and Facebook Live after the official C-SPAN cameras were turned off. The hosts mock the event as a "rowdy slumber party" involving pizza and Dunkin' Donuts, noting that the Senate had already voted down the bills in question.

john lewis· house of representatives· paul ryan· facebook live· periscope

1:00:31 Oh, there's a couple of them. Yeah, because I saw it was John Lewis and but it looked like it was the guy that we think is such a douchebag. He looks just like him has the same voice. Oh, I don't know. There's a bunch of these. The problem is there's a bunch. There's always this southern kind of like they're they've been in the job forever. Congress. Elijah Cummings. Elijah Cummings. I was like, when did Elijah Cummings become John Lewis? How did that happen? Let's play this clip. Which one? Yeah, sit in. Ah, hold on. Sit in ABC. Time now to the other headline we're following right now, the dramatic sit-in on Capitol Hill. Some members of Congress suddenly staging a protest on the floor of the House, sitting down demanding action on gun control. They are still sitting there tonight. The longtime civil rights icon, Congressman John Lewis, saying this is about the right to vote on this. President Obama thanking Congressman Lewis today, but here's the question, will there be a vote?

1:01:31 What Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan said just moments ago. ABC's Jonathan Karl on Capitol Hill tonight. It's something we've just never seen before. Members of Congress staging a sit-in like a bunch of protesters on a college campus. We are blind to a crisis. Mr. Speaker, where is the heart of this body? Where is our soul? It was Congressman John Lewis, who famously led sit-ins in the segregated South, who started today's sit-in on the House floor. Dozens of Democrats vowing to stay as long as it takes to get a vote on guns. The president weighed in too. If we're going to raise our kids in a safer, more loving world,

1:02:14 We need to speak up for it. When you're, if you want to wrap this segment, I have to move. I want to go from this loving to the other one, which is the rape culture, which I think, I think this is all connected. Okay. Before we do that, I just have a couple of funny clips about the city. My clip from this morning taught me a couple of things. Also ABC, good morning America. First of all, Facebook is beside itself.

1:03:02 They could not believe that this was happening on Periscope. Yeah. They are launching the launch of Facebook Live videos like they so ABC comes in this morning even though they they they mention you know Twitter. I don't think they even said Periscope but the first thing they show is Facebook Live. Facebook Live. Congress live streaming Periscoping even doing Facebook Live who knew? Who knew? That they knew all this technology. But this is a serious effort. They want action on gun control and they want it now, but that vote doesn't look like it's going to happen, Rob. Diehards are still there. They've been there all night, right now on the House floor, even Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi. And they've gotten more than one million people watching this on Twitter alone. Listen, overnight... Stop, stop, stop the clip. I want to, because I'm going to throw in here and you're going to tell me the answer to this.

1:03:56 I'm guessing that at some point they mentioned that they want the vote, they want to vote on something that has already been voted down in the Senate, meaning the vote would be meaningless except for symbolic reasons. They do discuss that, right, in this report that you're playing us? Are you mad? Are you completely insane? I was looking forward to the buzzer. Okay. Overnight a chaotic showdown on the House floor. A protest like we've never seen before. Democrats in Congress staging a sit-in on the House floor like a bunch of student protesters on a college campus. Did you see the meme? Probably not, it's on the face bag. There's a photoshop of the Democrats sitting on the floor and someone photoshopped pacifiers in their faces so they're all sucking on pacifiers. Very funny. They should have him arrested.

1:04:52 Well, they're breaking all kinds of laws. on matters of policy. But Democrats refused to back down, singing and waving signs with the names of victims of gun violence. It went on throughout the night, the House floor sometimes looking like a rowdy slumber party. I just brought Dunkin Donuts. That's Elizabeth Warren. Hey everybody, I just bought Dunkin Donuts!

1:05:29 She's a member of the body that voted this down. Oh yeah. Did she talk about it? Yeah, but no. Did she talk about it? No. Lawmakers brought in snacks. Snacks! Files of late night pizza. Pizza! Thank you for getting in trouble! Thank you for getting in trouble! This is like, it's like, it's like social justice warriors. Civil rights icon, Congressman John Lewis. Nearly 200 Democrats joined in. As news of the protest spread, Representative Keith Ellis received this message during a meeting. Your mom called and wants you on the floor. Okay. And then they were singing, We Shall Overcome, which I find is just a slam towards the human rights movement. Are you kidding me?

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Kim Kardashian, and Election Strategy

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz defends the House sit-in, calling the Republican refusal to vote a "cowardly act." NBC's Luke Russert highlights the cultural impact of the protest, noting that Kim Kardashian tweeted about it. The hosts argue the entire event was a calculated strategy to create campaign material for the 2016 elections.

debbie wasserman schultz· kim kardashian· luke russert· dnc· gun violence

1:06:16 And then luckily we got Debbie Wasserdubel Schmitz. She comes on and starts crying like a baby. She joins us now, she's also chair of the Democratic National Committee. She just came from the House floor. Good morning. Good morning, Charlie. Tell me what the strategy is right now. What's the strategy? You know, the strategy is that We're at a point in the year where we've had more than a hundred mass shootings in this country and countless numbers of times that members of Congress from the cities across this country in which those shootings have taken place have stood on the House floor in the well and asked for a moment of silence and the thoughts and prayers of our colleagues. See, I don't get this.

1:07:00 So they walk out during the thoughts and prayers. Well, the whole world is about love and light, love and light. I thought we're going to solve it with love. But no, thoughts and prayers, they walk out. Well, thoughts and prayers aren't good enough anymore. We have to act. We have an obligation to make sure that the legacy of those children who were killed... So help us understand what the strategy is. How long will you be there? What's the strategy? How will you measure what you can accomplish? What's the strategy? Well, we are going to Hold the floor of the House of Representatives. We are in our 19th hour. Until we can get the majority to do their jobs and give us a vote. It is a cowardly act that they have not at least allowed us to vote. But Congressman, hasn't Congress adjourned? Hasn't the Speaker adjourned Congress and said you can go home until after the July 4th holiday?

1:07:50 He has, but that doesn't mean that we can't continue and we will continue to shine a spotlight on this issue. The fact that the Republicans in the majority will not allow a vote on bills that would simply say, if you are suspected of terrorism, if you are on the terrorist watch list, if you are on the no-fly list in this country, then you should not be able to buy a gun. And look, they don't have to vote for the bill. But they have to put the bill on the floor and own up to where they are and stare their constituents in the eye and say yay or nay. This is all about the November elections. They want to be able to pound this home. Oh, they vote. You know what I think? Pound. Slam. Hammer. They want to slam them during the election. This Republican voted against this bill. They voted for no good reason because the Senate has already voted them down. This is an outrageous

1:08:44 And I, it's not really, it's beyond a publicity stunt. It's just an outrageous exercise. It is. And again, just so people understand, you cannot take away a constitutionally protected right. We can overturn the Second Amendment, repeal it, and I'll be the first to say, okay, here's my gun. I may move somewhere else, but here's my gun. You can repeal it. But you can't say because you're suspected of something, you can't speak, you can't bear arms, you don't have the right to due process. It's against the Constitution. So although I've not heard anyone say that, it's very simple. You cannot... It's pre-crime. It's minority report. It's just not the way it works. But forget about that.

1:09:37 Because Luke Russert, son of the famous Tim Russert, beloved by all in Washington DC as a fantastic journalist, had this contribution. And Friday, do they decide, you know what, we brought all this attention, I mean Kim Kardashian was tweeting about this, that does not happen a lot. Are you surprised at how large this got? I mean Kim Kardashian was tweeting about it. That is your mainstream media, ladies and gentlemen. It is so big, this, that even Kim Kardashian is tweeting about it. That's pathetic. That, by the way, is Clip of the Day.

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Dennis Hastert Sentencing, CBS Humor, and Health Warnings

Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert reported to prison in Minnesota to serve a 15-month sentence for banking violations related to hush money payments. CBS anchor Scott Pelley is criticized for reporting the sentencing with "amusing punchlines" and jokes about Hastert's inmate number. The hosts conclude the segment by warning listeners that constant exposure to such media can cause physical illness.

dennis hastert· scott pelley· cbs news· prison· vitamin d3

1:10:33 You don't need me. You're ruining the punchline. Alright, I'm out. Good. You should. I'm out. You're right. Meeting adjourned. Meeting adjourned. Meeting adjourned. I think by the way, adjourning Congress with these assholes sitting on the... We're going to stay here until Congress is adjourned. Yeah. We'll be back on July 6th or whatever. I'm so embarrassed. I'm embarrassed about our process. I'm embarrassed about the whole thing. We look like a-holes of the universe and we are. While we're slamming the Republicans. And one second, one second. Just want to point out that there was a shooting in Germany in a movie theater.

1:11:14 this morning. Oh, was there? With a gun. A shooting. In a movie theater, a gun in a movie theater in Europe where you can't get guns. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's not talk about that. Maybe no one will notice. Yeah. So before we get to our greetings, I do want to play a little joke, a little humor. Now, CBS, which I'm now, it's really my sights because of my finally figuring out deconstructing their style of reporting, which is not reporting at all. They decide every so often, Scott Pelley, I think, wants to be a stand-up comic.

1:11:51 And so he does this, he does this, now Hastert, the guy who was arrested, I guess, Speaker of the House years ago, was arrested for buggering a bunch of young wrestlers. Right, yes, yes. They threw him in the slammer for like a year and a half or a few months or six months or something. But Scott Pelley decides to report this kind of as a joke with a couple of amusing punchlines as though this whole thing is just funny. Dennis Hastert has gone from the people's house to the big house. The former speaker reported to prison in Minnesota today to serve 15 months for violating banking laws. He had paid hush money to one of the men he abused as boys while Hastert was a high school wrestling coach. In the line of presidential succession, Hastert was once number two. Now he is number 47991-424.

1:12:53 Give me a break and he's a Democrat right he's a Democrat Hastert no no he's a Republican. Oh, I thought it was a Democrat Oh, yeah, he was makes it better. He's a Republican of course typical you can make better job So he has a couple gags, and they're very funny. I thought that was well structured It's a uncalled for for the news to be doing this yeah You know you and by the way if a guy was abusing children. He needs help oh He needs mental help. He's in jail for violating banking laws. So if you're being blackmailed, I guess you can't, you know, you're violating banking laws if you pay the guy. So I thought that needs a little discussion. But well, what's there to discuss? The whole country is fucked. There's nothing to discuss. You're cussing a lot today. Yeah. Well, I almost puked again.

1:13:44 I'm disgusted by it. Maybe you should take some vitamin D3. I took that, I took my B12, I took everything and I got pepto. I'm nauseous. But not so much for me because it's kryptonite but I have some shielding. But for the American people, the citizens of our country who are just deluged with this, it's gonna make them sick. It is not healthy people. It's going to make them very, very ill. Maybe that's the idea. And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Sui with The Sea Stance, we'll see you next Tuesday. Dvorak! And in the morning to you, in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, suns in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to Mark G. Once again, Mark G. back with the album artwork for episode 835. I think we had to dig for that one. I'm sorry?

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Executive Producers, and South African Deconstruction

The hosts credit Mark G for the episode's artwork and thank various "Executive Producers" for their financial support. A letter from a listener in South Africa compares the political climates of the US and South Africa, noting the media's role in both. The segment addresses the perception that the show's deconstruction of media memes makes it appear as though they are defending Donald Trump.

mark g· noagenerator· south africa· table mountain· trump deconstruction

1:14:43 That was one that was passed over earlier, knowing it was a good evergreen. Right, so the title of the show was Woman Person, but of course the album art was the yes-no boxes with the checkmark in the middle, which was perfect for the Brexit and made a lot of sense. I think it calls attention to the show, which is why the artwork is so incredibly important, and we're one of the few who have fresh album artwork for every single episode. And every single newsletter. Yep. For the podcast things, the pod catchers out there, the apps that actually show it, strangely still does not include Apple. Wait a minute, didn't Apple write the spec for showing it? Yeah, they did. Huh. I know. Odd. Odd that way. So noagenerator.com is where you can submit and we appreciate the work of our artists a lot, especially got like Mark G who's a professional, who's out of work. That's unbelievable.

1:15:43 Yeah, a lot of people are out of it. And that's why we credit people. We credit them for the work they do. It's depression. Yeah, it is depression. Now, we do have a few people to thank. These are executive producers and our associate executive producers. They come in early on the show because they're really helping out the, just like Hollywood actually, where people who finance the show are executive and associate executive producers. Except, you know, we don't really have all of the extra benefits, you know, no red carpets, No, no young actresses. No, no starlets. No, but we'll give you credit. Yeah next best thing. That's right So let's start with a thing a few people including Baron Jim of Jamaica Plain. Ah, okay, three four five dot six seven. This is hi from Baron Jim. I will send separate email. Oh I do not have a separate. Yeah, I have the last email I had from him was on May 31st. I

1:16:43 Let me take so maybe it maybe it went into spam or something I'll find out shortly. Well. He's a good friend of the show easy. I think he's a baron Yeah, baron jim of Jamaica played it Hi from sir here. We go. It did come in Hi from Sir Jim. This is what's weird because my list of him came in and then there was a wait and then the last one came in with this thing so I don't know. I have no idea. Well we thank him profusely. Here's his note. Oh yeah, okay. It was just describing how it came in. Answering the call after hearing no agenda has lost support because of your political deconstruction this election season.

1:17:27 Yes, we have. I think people have gotten, because they're so politically aligned, they've gotten irked at us for bringing out the truth. Well, no, they're taught, they're taught, they're taught to believe that Merely mentioning anything about Trump is bad. You're evil. That's just the way people are taught. There's not much you can do about it. They view the world through a lens that has been crafted and maybe they'll come back and I hope so, but it's sad. Well, I find it peculiar, personally. Hopefully the man overboard folks will figure out that your comments are heavy on Trump because of the concerted campaign by the mainstream media and Republican Party to bring him down. Yes. All parties, everybody, everybody wants to bring him down. Yeah, he's considered a danger and the CIA is trying to bring him down too, which is really disconcerting.

1:18:25 Just lots more to... in fact, I got a clip that... Is it disconcerting or disconcerting? Disconcerting. Yeah, I think you said disconcerting. I do say disconcerting. Okay. I'm just colloquial that way. Okay. Just lots more to deconstruct on the Trump side currently. You have a perception problem. The MSN, the mainstream media constantly vilifies Trump and hypes Hillary. Deconstruction of these memes give an unintended and incorrect impression that you are defending Trump and criticizing Hillary. I get it, he says. Thank you. Jim Spencer. Thank you, Barron Jim. I'm gonna give him some karma. He's a cancer survivor.

1:19:04 You've got karma. So we're happy. OK, we have a shamanic ape from Okinawa. A three thirty three thirty three. Do not use my name. OK, we didn't. Well, he likes shamanic ape from Okinawa. The show has been amazing lately. Amazing. The best podcast in the universe is a breath of fresh air amidst the dirty atmosphere of corporate media. Couldn't say it better. I would be grateful if you could kindly pass along some album release karma for my first solo album. Links to the album at shamanicape.com. That's S-H-A-M-A-N-I-C-A-P-E.

1:19:43 Thanks for the great analysis and deconstruction your work is much appreciated. Thank you for the magic numbers and some karma for you my friend shamanic ape. You've got karma. Then we dropped down to associate executive producer Sir Sheets, baronet of the Cuban Leaf in Brewerton, New York at two three four five six. Lads you rock! Show 832 which is a everyone says was a the best show we've done forever. Literally. Show 832, Cissexist was brilliant. It is becoming more and more important for others to hear you. I have stepped up hitting people in the mouth and in the past couple of months did so to two judges. Nice! Who's he hang out with? Yeah. Let's accept my sincere thanks for all you do as always. Cuban cigars and single malt scotch for all the table. And I'm supplying. Woohoo!

1:20:41 Using Cubano rock on sir sheets the baronet of the Cuban leaf gracias and then onward He needs a karma. No, but we got that you've got karma Okay now you have this long note from someone anonymous and no okay anonymous sent in a long note Don't I can't get to you got to read his amount. I can't get to that part two three four five six your favorite amount interesting

1:21:18 Um, you're John and Adam. I'm thrilled to finally become a producer of the best podcast in the universe. Shows have been superb lately. Thank you. I learned a huge amount from hearing you guys twice a week. I have to thank my friend Daniel Avenir for punching me in the mouth several years ago. And just in case he is listening, I'm referring obviously to the show and not talking about the time he literally punched me in the mouth at a nightclub in Johannesburg. I'm still irked about that. Nevertheless, There is no kingsmanship in the race for the knighthood. I hereby challenge Daniel for the title of knight of the Table Mountain." Which is this mountain right over Johannesburg that is called Table Mountain and then a tablecloth. Actually it's called the Tafelberg. And a tablecloth forms

1:22:01 And as a minor fog on the mountain and drifts over the side like the side like a table is very beautiful. It's beautiful I'd like to call out my buddy Ryland as a massive douchebag It's also Canadian for what it's worth isn't very much. It's half American these days Uh, yeah. The last time I donated, Adam pronounced my name... Hmm, this is anonymous. Don't pronounce it so it's anonymous, so don't do it. Yeah, I'm gonna leave it out, this part. Yeah. Your show has given me unparalleled experience and skills to deconstruct the garbage going on in South Africa. In many years, our country is similar to yours, except that your president has fewer wives than ours. That's what you say. He is Muslim, after all.

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Job Karma, and No Agenda Formula

New producers are knighted, including Sir John of South London and Sir Fahrenheit. The hosts perform "job karma" rituals for listeners seeking employment and play various jingles. They reiterate the "No Agenda formula" of hitting people in the mouth with truth and deconstructing political exercises like the Orlando shooting narrative.

knighting· john kumar· steve lindy· nancy pelosi· donation

1:22:49 Uh, your show, uh, your show has given me, okay, I promise I get this. You know, when you break these notes so long, it actually fills up my screen and I can't scroll down because of the spreadsheet I'm using. Let me try. It's only been nine months. I'm getting, I'm on it. We both live in societies controlled by the media and dominated by, and he goes on. Uh, is there anything he wants us to play? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's not gonna go no I can't I can't get there You have to well, I'm gonna give him a karma that I'll give my role it just yeah, don't worry about karma We can figure it out. So you've got karma new monitor No monitor no vote John Kumar in London $200 please find and close the donation of $200 for the best podcast in the universe I believe for the accounting node below I can now be knighted I

1:23:50 If it's all in order, I'd like to be knighted as Sir John of South London. Okay, you got it. It's been a bit of a slow year for me, so if I can request some relationship karma, I'd also be looking for a new job soon. So some jobs, karma, would be very much appreciated. Thank you for the many hours of entertainment. The show has been on a roll of late and keeping track of the Brexit becomes so much easier with you guys. I don't know all that well. Okay. Keep up the good work, Sir John of South London, or will be, to be Sir John of South London. And there's one missing here because I have the note, but it's...

1:24:26 It's another, it's the anonymous note. Well, you skipped over Steve Lindy from Cape Town. Oh, Steve Lindy's the one, that's the long one I read that we said it was anonymous. Oh, okay. That's why he wanted us to pronounce his name properly. So your monitor doesn't seem to be getting this right either. No, I was still on anonymous. I thought you were reading the note. I don't know where you're reading the note from. You're in charge of the notes. All I do is the jingles. Okay, well I got, okay. Well, let's go back to anonymous at 23456. He says, keep me anonymous, here's my note. A very happy first ever Father's Day to Kevin. Father's Day to Kevin, the best dad in the universe. Happy Father's Day to both of you. This came in on the mail, obviously. Thank you for everything you do to keep our family informed and entertained. Very short and sweet. Right. Then Lindy, I guess is... So Lindy, yes. That's a long note.

1:25:13 And, okay, we did that. We did the douchebag. We did the best we can. Yes, but he did want a couple of jingles. He wants God hit him in the mouth, which I'll play in a moment. And he wanted Obama 18, Bill Nye, tough guy and that round of health karma for his family and friends. So I got to do that. There's a need for a rescue mission when the world is threatened. The world needs help. It calls on America. And that's the story. So come on champ, show us how tough you are. You've got karma. There we go. Thank you Steve Lindy. And then John Kumar needs his job karma. Okay, well we have specials. I want to see where we have... where am I here?

1:25:59 Special job karma. Where's my jobs karma? Here we go. We got jobs karma over here Jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs jobs jobs jobs That's Trump You're gonna add it to the end of the job is job is jobs karma? I just threw it in there. Well, I have it separately. The thing that's problematic with his jobs, jobs, jobs, he doesn't say let's vote for jobs, which is the idiocy of Nancy Pelosi on the, on the original clip. He just says jobs, jobs, jobs, and then everyone goes crazy, but he doesn't have the let's vote for jobs.

1:26:47 Hmm. All right. I can't help it. I never heard that one. It's new to me. No, it's brand new. It was from his, it was from his policy. Well, we'll talk about it. I have more from that. Well, if we let's go to write to Trump thing, cause I've got a couple of, well, can I, can we first thank everybody? Yes. Remind everybody we have another show coming up on Sunday. There will be... And Dvorak.org slash NA is the place to go to help us because this today was not really one of our stellar days. But yet, I almost threw up. Dvorak.org slash NA. So if you can keep it down then go out there and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

1:27:40 Shut up! There we go. Shut up! And thank you all very much, and we'll be thanking people of $50 and above donations later on in the program. Well, we have a number of ways to go now. I think so far we've... I think the particular thing we've done so far is to show people that this shooting thing was a political exercise by Congress. The whole Orlando thing's a scam. Not a false flag, though. No. and something out of control and So let's take advantage you don't let anything go to waste don't let any a good crisis Let a good crisis go to waste that before before before we go into the next thing just have one little thing because it for the first time I was blown away I could not but the world is upside down the world is upside the world is upside down and

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Whoopi Goldberg, Trump Assassination Attempt, and The View

A 19-year-old British man was arrested in Las Vegas for attempting to seize a police officer's gun to assassinate Donald Trump. Whoopi Goldberg is praised for her comments on *The View* condemning political violence, though her co-hosts are criticized for suggesting Trump's rhetoric "incited" the attempt. The hosts note the lack of mainstream media coverage compared to how a similar attempt on Hillary Clinton would be reported.

whoopi goldberg· the view· donald trump· las vegas· assassination attempt

1:28:35 So there was this 19-year-old kid from Britain who overstayed on his visa, essentially an illegal immigrant. But of course, we don't really think of it that way because illegal immigrants are only brown. That's the racism you have in your own mind, people. So he was caught trying to grab in Nevada an officer's gun to kill Trump. He said, I was there, I was going to kill Trump. That was the whole idea. This got very little play. All things considered. And you just have to ask yourself, if this had happened to Hillary Clinton, it would have been top of the news. Top of the news. Non-stop. You must agree. Yes, I have to agree. Now, for Trump, not so. But the people who actually... the person who came to his defense, I could not believe it. The only person in the world speaking any sense about what happened and highlighting it was Whoopi Goldberg.

1:29:37 The world has gone, the world has gone mad. Donald Trump campaign stop in Las Vegas had a very terrifying moment yesterday when a 19 year old man tried to disarm a police officer saying he wanted to kill Trump. And he said if he's on the street tomorrow, he would try again. I mean, as a nation, this is just for my two cents. As a nation, we can disagree with each other all we want. But the idea of taking somebody out because they disagree with you is not an American concept It's it's not rational. It's not smart am I did I wake up in a parallel universe? I mean, it's a it's a horrifying thing is a terrible thing to do You can scream at him that you don't like his politics. You have no right

1:30:21 No right to try to take him out. It's interesting, this guy is a Brit. He's not a Mexican or a Muslim. The two groups that Trump has been vilifying. A white guy from England. Just saying. Thank you for making my point for me just saying. He was here on an expired visa. He'd been living in his car for a month. The AP was reporting that he was autistic and had previously tried to kill himself. So this is probably somebody not in their right mind. But for those of us that are in our right mind, take a little bit of advice from whooping. Let's all

1:30:59 agree to disagree and do so without being disagreeable and without violence. Let me just say this, I mean, and it's wrong what happened. I mean, you're never supposed to violently try to take someone's... Now listen to this dingbat. ...not because of their views, but with the Trump campaign and all that campaign rhetoric, to incite violence. I mean, he did say, you know, I should punch this guy out, one of the protesters. Can you believe this woman? She's saying, hey, he really brought it upon himself. That's what she's saying. Yeah. It makes me wonder whether or not that campaign, the vileness of it and all the rhetoric is going to bring more people out of the woodwork like that. I hope not. I hope not, because it doesn't. Taking somebody out never answers the question. Never.

1:31:42 fixes anything. Unless you're a terrorist, unless you're a suspected terrorist in Iraq, Syria, anywhere there where we drone you, you could be an American. That's the way, we take people out for that whoopie. And I wonder whether or not that's part of it. Let's hope not. I wonder if that's not part of it. She's hoping for more. What is I wonder or not? Because she's hoping, she's hoping. I wonder or not. The phrase, I wonder or not. I wonder or I don't wonder. I wonder or not. No, I think it means I wonder or I hope is what I think she means. Dits. Anything. But I wonder whether or not that's part of it. Let's hope not. I wonder if that's not part of it. You just never know where it's going to land. How long did it take you to give birth? Get out of my vagina! Classified! Thank you so much for the view.

1:32:35 I was watching this show occasionally by accident. Every time I see it, I just see Joy Behar going off on Annie. She's just got a horrible look on her face. She's just like this crazy old woman. It just ruins the show for me. I can barely watch that show because of Joy Behar. She's just obnoxious. Now you know why. She grimaces. Yeah, I'm an ageist about her. She's a horrible old lady. Okay, like 80 or something even though she said work done apparently. All right, well let's talk about Trump a little bit. I don't have any long clips, I just have some interesting short clips because they went on because he gave his speech.

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

Trump Persuasion Speech, CBS Fact Check, and Radical Islamism

Donald Trump's recent speech is analyzed through the lens of Scott Adams' "Master Persuader" theory. A CBS News fact-check is deconstructed for claiming Hillary Clinton acknowledges the threat of "radical Islam" while she actually uses the term "radical Islamism." The hosts argue that "Islamism" is a specific linguistic pivot used by the administration to avoid the terms critics demand.

donald trump· scott adams· cbs news· radical islam· hillary clinton

1:33:15 He's, oh, I'm gonna give a speech and he's read the speech and it was pretty nice. It wasn't as hard hitting as I thought it would be. Oh, I disagree. I think it was, of course, damn you, Scott Adams, damn you, damn you. I can now no longer listen to Trump without analyzing it based on his theory that Trump is a master in persuasion. And even Scott Adams tweeted, he said, Trump will pretty much run uncontested from here on out. He said it was the best persuasion speech he had ever heard. Okay?

1:33:50 Okay, I'm not gonna say that wasn't the case. I said I didn't say it wasn't persuasive I said it wasn't as hard-hitting as I thought it would be mm-hmm because he didn't go after the Clinton Foundation the way he could have there's all sorts of things he could have done if he wanted to be more hard-hitting and that's when I'm I stick with that but let's first off let's go back to my CBS thesis CBS is totally against Trump of course and let's listen to another misdirection report that is I thought it was actually worse than the one I cited earlier. It could get worse, yes. So this is the fact check when they... because all the networks did the following thing. They played a couple of clips. He said, well, he wasn't accurate. And then they said, and they played like Hillary wasn't in bed.

1:34:35 Like Trump said when the Benghazi thing went down, she wasn't in bed. So they always did that sort of thing, who cares? But this one here was a bit out of, this one was way off. This is the clip, CBS fact check. He even accused her of crimes. Hillary Clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. I like the politics of personal profit because it has alliteration and it rolls off the tongue. like it.

1:35:15 That number is correct, but some of his claims were questionable at best. For example... ...is that she refuses to acknowledge the threat posed by radical Islam. But last week she did just that. And to me, radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either. Did you catch that one? Yeah, she didn't say the same thing. He says, and I want to play this again so people can hear this. There's two elements to this. One, the reporter from CBS says, after Trump says she won't even recognize this as a threat. No, she last week said it was a threat. And then they play a clip where she doesn't say it's a threat at all. All she does is correct her language and then she does it in a way that Obama did. And I want to point this out.

1:36:06 She says, I don't see the difference between radical jihadists and radical Islamism. Yeah, it's something very different. The complaint of Trump and most of the right-wing talk guys is that Obama and Hillary will not say radical Islam. Or radical Islamic terrorism. Right, but they won't say one of the things radical Islam, radical Islamic anything. They say, both of them, both of them said radical Islamism. And Islamism by definition is radical Islam. Islamism, so you can't say radical Islamism because Islamism is radical. Islamism is not what we're talking about. Good point. When you put the ism on it.

1:36:52 And they both do it, Hillary does it, and they do it on purpose. There's no reason if you're gonna say radical Islamic or radical Islam or radical Islam whatever is different than radical Islamism, they still won't say what these guys are bitching about. And that little commentary has nothing to do with her saying that it's the number one problem. She doesn't even say it's a problem. All she's doing is saying that I don't see the difference between saying this and that. Now play that little end again and you'll see what everyone can see what is the CBS up to with these sorts of reports? That she refuses to acknowledge the threat.

1:37:29 posed by radical Islam. But last week she did just that. Radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either. What has it got to do with her? This is unbelievable. This clip floored me when I heard it. And for that reason I will give you the clip of the day. So what is CBS doing? trying to do something with these kind of reports. These reports are absolutely terrible. You say something, I think that the guy turns out to be a complete pedophile and he admitted it. Well, I do like to go to Starbucks every once in a while. I mean, it's like one thing's got nothing to do with what the guy's making the claim for. It's to me, I just can, CBS is really,

CHAPTER 23 / 35 Discussion

Trump Campaign Finances, Draper Sterling, and Fundraising

Media reports highlight a disparity in campaign cash, with Hillary Clinton holding $42 million compared to Donald Trump's $1.3 million. The hosts discuss an expenditure to a firm called "Draper Sterling," which the media linked to *Mad Men*. Trump's claim that he can provide "unlimited cash" from his own wealth is presented as a strategic move to appear unbought by donors.

donald trump· campaign finance· draper sterling· hillary clinton· fundraising

1:38:23 And the funny thing is they actually have one of the best news reports with the cover a lot of news, but they cover it like this with lies. Well, the the this the we kind of started off with the main the main headline was Trump is broke, has no money, broke. And in fact, all over the face bag. Yeah. The comment threads were he has no money. He's broke. He has no money. How could you ever? How could he ever win? Uh, Jeb Bush had a hundred million dollars. I don't think that made a difference in the primaries. Why would- and if anything, I think it speaks poorly the way you figure where this money comes from. Here's actually- here's one of these. There was a million of these. Despite a lifetime of cutting deals that made him billions of dollars, Donald Trump is so short of campaign cash, GOP jaws are dropping. But don't worry, says- GOP jaws are dropping. Nice.

1:39:22 that made him billions of dollars. Donald Trump is so short of campaign cash, GOP jaws are dropping. But don't worry, says Trump. This weekend we had a very big fundraising weekend. It's not really. Now, this is very interesting because this is the only place I heard him say this. We said we had a very big fundraising weekend, but we haven't announced this. So he's holding back on whatever he's done, which is very predictable. Let everyone think that he's broke and all this is done. But he's saying it quite clearly. We had a very big fundraising weekend. It's not revealed yet, but we raised a lot of money. Still consider the numbers according to federal campaign filings Hillary Clinton finished the month of May with 42 million dollars in the bag dollars Trump ended up with a tiny fraction of that haul just 1.3 million other glaring findings this month 17% of the campaign spending was dished out to Trump related entities like when the campaign rents space from a Trump property for an event This was another interesting

1:40:21 Topic that was used to slam hammer Trump slam slam hammer So slammer even the BBC is using these words was You know he's he's spending it on his own companies. Well hold on a second I don't understand you're like preoccupation with the word slam. It just it amuses me I don't know why because it's It's a... I don't hate it. No, I don't hate it. It's just it's it shows how lame news is. It's just it's you know this is a Kardashian headline these words. You know it's like Nicki Minaj slams Kim Kardashian. That's a TMZ headline. This is not... it's way beneath anybody I think. Uh-huh. So well and then they mix it up. It's okay. I'm sorry. It's not beneath them. We're already determined that but go on.

1:41:15 So now the big, again I'm just going with the bit buckets that are face bags and people say Oh, he's spending his money on his own company. Well, it's his own money and he's, you know, spending it on his own money on his own company. Oh no. Why would he do any difference? And $35,000 went to something called Draper Sterling. It's right on strategy. It's exactly what they wanted. An expenditure with a name reminiscent of the advertising agency and the hit show Mad Men. Now this is very interesting. So there will be no investigation of Charles Ortell's revelations about the Clinton Foundation

1:41:51 But there was a $3,500 bill that he paid to some spooky advertising agency. We need to investigate. Trump released a statement on his fundraising noting his appeals to donors are just beginning, adding, if need be, there could be unlimited cash on hand as I would put up my own money. Earlier in the day, he blamed Republicans who haven't rallied behind his campaign. They don't want to come on. They will probably eventually come on. Honestly, if they don't, it's just fine. I can win it either way. So there's a whole strategy I believe that he's following and it started with the so-called firing of his campaign manager who I saw setting up in

CHAPTER 24 / 35 Discussion

Corey Lewandowski Firing, Polling Data, and Economic Trust

The firing of campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is framed as a "pivot" to show leadership and transition to a more professional campaign structure. Despite negative national polls, Trump remains in a "dead heat" with Clinton in battleground states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. A poll shows Trump leading Clinton by 8 points on the issue of who is more trusted to handle the economy.

corey lewandowski· dana bash· ohio· pennsylvania· economic polls

1:42:30 You know, for his anti-Hillary speech. The guy's not fired. He's just not running the campaign anymore. He's still going to be on the, you know, the guy on the ground at speeches, etc. But that was... It's like that other guy. There was a guy that he had early in the campaign who he supposedly fired and the guy was on the stump Yeah. Ever since, and he still shows up on all these talk shows as a former Trump guy. He just, he really pushes Trump. It was fantastic because Dana Bash from CNN, she got the exclusive, which was not exclusive because of 50 other camera guys around. And he just, he said, oh, well, you know, I don't really know why I was fired, but yeah, he's great. Great campaign. I mean, do they not see that they were being taken for a ride at that very minute? Oh, I can't wait for him to open up and tell us what an asshole Trump is and how everything's in disarray.

1:43:21 This new guy will be fine. It's all gonna be groovy. So that was the start because if you can hire someone who you defend rigorously, he defended against a little Michelle crybaby girl who was now promoting her book, I might add, you know, who Corey jerked her arm. Oh, the guy who he touched. Yeah. And the woman who he touched. Right. And Trump defended him for that. And she was on Kelly's show. But wait. My point is that I think it's psychological when you show, first of all, pivot in the campaign. We got the, you know, we have some super guy coming in and it's going to make a big difference. That's part one. Part two is if he is man enough to fire his friend, that's leadership quality. I think it's subliminal. I think it makes a difference.

1:44:13 Could be now here's NBC and I want to point something out about about the closeness of this race and just an interesting statistic Let's go to Steve on those numbers because yes The National Polls has spooked Republicans and yet we saw three battleground state polls and two of the three Ohio, Pennsylvania You have races that are dead heat some of the best few weeks of her campaign and Trump has had some of the worst few weeks So how did you explain those? Yeah, I mean it's amazing if you just took the 2012 electoral map, Obama versus Romney and you kept it the same. If you're Trump, if you can flip Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, you're the next president. And you got him for all the trouble he's had, you got him basically dead even in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Florida's bad news for him. So he's down in this thing. But I think for Republicans, a lot of them look at this and they say, if they were in a competent campaign, imagine where he'd be. How worried is the Clinton campaign about just that?

1:45:03 As you just said and Savannah just said, great weeks for Hillary Clinton, terrible weeks for Donald Trump, and they look at those polls in those states. How do they explain that? And I think that's why, and also how they just said it, that poll on the economy. Hillary Clinton gives that speech yesterday, the subject's the economy, she's trying to discredit Trump on the economy. And you look up and you see in that poll, who do you trust more on the economy? Trump leading Clinton by 8 points. So they're aware of the challenge. Now here's my breakdown of the so-called numbers. We'll just take the numbers for what they are. So Trump and Hillary kind of neck and neck in most places. She's ahead a little bit, but on economy he's ahead by eight points. According to phony baloney polls, fine. Here's the problem with their reasoning. If they truly are kind of neck and neck, which is what the polls always have to show, he has a 70, they say, a 70% negative.

1:45:55 All he has to do is bring it back to 65 and he wins. Don't they understand? It's simple math if you're gonna go by the poll numbers. So he's a huge negative. Everybody hates him. But if like 5 or 10% less people hated him, he would beat Hillary Clinton. He would beat her. Yeah. Now, well, most of the stuff that you, especially the earlier clip is all about these broke. He hasn't got enough money. He's got to get more money. It's really just the network saying, God, we're not getting, we're not getting any money for him. Have a bad quarter. Because of this guy.

CHAPTER 25 / 35 Discussion

Brian Williams Meme, Euro News, and Profiling Comments

Donald Trump uses a "persuasion anchor" by comparing Hillary Clinton's honesty to that of disgraced anchor Brian Williams. Euro News is criticized for reporting that Trump advocated for "racial profiling," when he specifically used the word "profiling" in the context of security. The hosts argue that the media intentionally misrepresents Trump's comments on Muslims to fit a racial narrative.

brian williams· nlp· euro news· racial profiling· donald trump

1:46:45 Sorry, bad edit. on the record, I'm so sorry about this, say they're very concerned because he doesn't like it. I don't know what happened to that clip, but he basically says, hey, we're waiting for that money. That's our money. And that's why we want to have it. It was kind of cool that he blew the lid open on that. Well, try to find it. That's actually a good clip. I have only one last clip. And this is the one that I think is important. This shows the persuasion anchor that Trump threw out early in. And he even throws in a little NLP there, which is quite blatant. And I was watching MSNBC.

1:47:32 MSNBC has the best live coverage of politics. You know, all things considered. Because they have lots of cameras, lots of resources. And of course, you know, we know who works there at MSNBC. So this is live and this is what happens. Hillary Clinton, and as you know, she, most people know, she's a world class liar. Just look at her pathetic email server statements or her phony landing. Or her phony landing in Bosnia, where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers. A total and so look, this was was one of the beauts.

1:48:21 A total and self-serving liar. Here it comes. Brian Williams' career was destroyed for saying less. Just remember that. Bam! It was good. Bam! Every single time you see Brian Williams, you're gonna think, oh, Hillary's a liar. Just like him. I think that was genius. And he even says, just remember that. which is total, total, don't forget. Yeah, total neuro linguistic programming. Yeah, it was excellent. And Brian Williams, he was on the air when he said that. That was so, I really liked that. Now that I'm going to have to go read his book on negotiations. Um,

1:49:06 Okay, let's play. I got a few things here to wrap this up. I got a bunch of clips Do you want to hear how euro news? Classifies Trump just briefly just so that how the how the Europeans are talking about my Trump said the US should consider racial profiling He never said racial profiling That's... It really is. He... I checked it, I went back, he says profiling. He says, I don't like the idea of profiling. But doesn't say racial profiling. And by the way... Donald Trump has said the US should consider racial profiling to combat crime. The presumptive Republican presidential candidate made the comments when asked if he backed the profiling of Muslims. Not a race!

1:49:47 after last week's shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando. Trump insisted while he hated the concept of profiling, he said it wasn't the worst thing to do. He did not say racial profiling. Muslims are not a race. Who's report was this? Euro News. Euro News. Unbelievable. Well, that's just crap news everywhere. And by the way... I think we should temporarily put a halt on all immigration from the United Kingdom until we figure out what's going on with these crazy people. They're killing their own politicians, they send them over to kill our politicians. And that kid was in the same hospital.

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

CIA Endorsements, Saudi Funding, and Clinton's Iran Deal

Former CIA and national security officials Brent Scowcroft and Richard Armitage endorsed Hillary Clinton, which the hosts view as the "old guard" protecting their interests. Reports from the Petra News Agency suggest Saudi Arabia has funded 20% of Clinton's campaign. The hosts theorize that Clinton's 2012 "fainting" incident was a cover-up for a plane crash related to secret Iran deal negotiations that would have angered her Saudi donors.

brent scowcroft· richard armitage· saudi arabia· hillary clinton· iran deal

1:50:25 Alright, so let's start with that Trump versus Hillary speech now I want to make an assertion here that people can follow or not We know that we know that CBS is all in for Hillary and they're up front for the CIA I mean that is the and that's not my thinking that's Carl Bernstein's commentary from some time ago famous Carl Bernstein and we've we've managed to see a A couple of old CIA shills that were supposedly Republicans move over to the Hillary camp. And I think I have a clip of that announced these two guys.

1:51:01 Mexican riots, Hillary vs Trump, old CIA hacks all in for Hillary. They just threw this in and this is on CBS I believe. Today Brent Scowcroft, national security advisor to the first president Bush endorsed Hillary Clinton. Last week it was Richard Armitage, a top national security official to George W Bush who said he'll vote for Clinton. CBS made this announcement of the two guys. And it's just like, okay, does anybody really care or is this just somebody showboating? Let's listen to, meanwhile, let's listen to ABC, which I believe is all in for, somehow has gotten on the Trump bandwagon because they will make reports like this. This report, I think, is extremely important. This is the Trump versus Hillary, ABC drops a meme. This meme

1:51:55 I've never heard it before. I believe it to be in play now. And I think it adds to the meme that you mentioned earlier about what Trump is promoting. But listen to this. He stuck to the prepared speech. But if there's one thing that Trump and the Republican establishment agree on, it's that foreign policy is one of Hillary Clinton's biggest weaknesses. David? Tom, thanks. Oh, interesting. Yeah. That's ABC saying that? The main meme has always been that she has so much experience with foreign policy. Now she's just pretty obvious. She's an incompetent bonehead. You know, when it comes to this, all of a sudden I understood all the b******t.

1:52:33 the bits and pieces, everything kind of fell together about the cover up of her plane crash, which I still really think happened, which was the result of her, you know, being out of the loop and her so-called falling on the plane. That's a very old clip. That's an old clip. It's an old clip. Very old. I never saw it until last week. Old, old clip. Funny. Faceplant. Beautiful. It is funny, but that was at that old clip was I know I think after the airplane I figured out once I had seen all the Guccifer 2.0 documents which includes all the donations to the Clinton Foundation from which countries and Indeed there's 25 million dollars from

1:53:19 from Saudi Arabia, but we had the prince visit President Obama last week. Very, he played very, very low key. It was a very low key meeting. Apparently what happened was there was a news report and this was from, hold on a second, I got it here. It's since been scrubbed, of course. The MEE, which what does that stand for? It's some publication. The Petra News Agency. published on Sunday would have described as exclusive comments from Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, which included a claim that Riyadh has provided 20% of the total funding to the prospective Democratic candidates campaign. And they even have a PDF of this report. It quoted Prince Mohammed as having said Saudi Arabia had provided with full enthusiasm an undisclosed amount of money to Clinton.

1:54:23 Here it is, I have all of his different points. Saudi Arabia, this is from the reports, from the published reports, Saudi Arabia has always sponsored both Republicans and Democrats. Party of America and in America current elections also provide with full enthusiasm 20% of the cost of Hillary Clinton's election even though some events in the country don't have a positive look to support the king of a woman for presidency. And he says no, we're all okay with this. And I'm pretty sure that they're sending, you know, they don't send the money to her directly, of course, because that would be illegal. But there's many ways to funnel it. And we know that Obama had all kinds of foreign contributions to his campaign. So, when you take into account Hillary Clinton wants to be president, she knew this, and she knows where the money's come from. And the Saudis have

1:55:11 Apparently, I think they've really been funding a lot of our presidential elections, a huge amount, and it makes sense for the position that they're in. So when she was setting up the Iran deal, she could never have that known. The Saudis could not know that she started that. You'll never hear her take credit for the Iran deal. Right. And she likes to take credit for stuff. And if she took credit for it, that would immediately stop all Saudi Arabia funding. That finally understand what's going on. That's why I'm covered over your say Yeah, what you're saying is that it had to it wasn't kept hush-hush because I don't know why it would have normally been out that she got into an accident and she's okay now so maybe uh-huh, but it had to be kept hush-hush because if the Saudis found out about this is their enemies of the Iranians yes big enemies and their a-holes and

1:56:08 They are not okay there in Saudi Arabia. So this had to be kept quiet to an extreme. Yes. I think that works. I think that fits right into what we're talking about. Clicked in my head like, of course it makes so much sense. Now we know why it had to be covered up. And the money's in, so we're good to go. She already scalped them for what she needs. But let's play this. Here's a clip. This is the Trump vs. Hillary speech. This is the Bosnia thing. This again is on ABC. So they clip in, they sneak in a little Hillary thing, which I also have ISO'd.

1:56:44 A little Hillary commentary that I thought was negative, just in the fact that it exists and that they put it in there. Attack on Bosnia. Her phony landing in Bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and self-serving lie. Our fact check, true. Clinton later apologizing for the description. So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. Trump noticeably held some of his fire when it came to Bill Clinton. I have the ISO of that. Play that ISO because this is what I have a comment. So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. You can put that at the end. Proves she's human. Wait, hold on a second. Does she have to prove she's human?

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

Bosnia Sniper Fire, "Blood Money" Claims, and Democracy Now

Donald Trump revisits Hillary Clinton's 1996 claim of landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, which was later debunked. Trump accuses Clinton of raising "blood money" from special interests and foreign governments. *Democracy Now!* is criticized for inadvertently spreading Trump's "world-class liar" meme while attempting to report on his economic policies.

bosnia· sniper fire· blood money· democracy now· hillary clinton

1:56:08 They are not okay there in Saudi Arabia. So this had to be kept quiet to an extreme. Yes. I think that works. I think that fits right into what we're talking about. Clicked in my head like, of course it makes so much sense. Now we know why it had to be covered up. And the money's in, so we're good to go. She already scalped them for what she needs. But let's play this. Here's a clip. This is the Trump vs. Hillary speech. This is the Bosnia thing. This again is on ABC. So they clip in, they sneak in a little Hillary thing, which I also have ISO'd.

1:56:44 A little Hillary commentary that I thought was negative, just in the fact that it exists and that they put it in there. Attack on Bosnia. Her phony landing in Bosnia where she said she was under attack and the attack turned out to be young girls handing her flowers, a total and self-serving lie. Our fact check, true. Clinton later apologizing for the description. So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. Trump noticeably held some of his fire when it came to Bill Clinton. I have the ISO of that. Play that ISO because this is what I have a comment. So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. You can put that at the end. Proves she's human. Wait, hold on a second. Does she have to prove she's human?

1:57:36 Apparently. She has to prove she's human because we've always- she doesn't sweat. There's all sorts of thoughts that she's a lizard. And now she herself! I'm all down with it, man. You know me. She's a lizard! So I made a mistake. That happens. It proves I'm human. Yeah, proves nothing. How could I not get that, you know? Whoa! So, that's a keeper. It's already in the bin, you bet. Proves I'm here. Now here's another one. So this is Hillary. This is the clip is odd Clinton quote. Now she says something that actually makes no sense and she gets a big round of applause from her followers. He's going to me personally because he has no answers on the substance. Clinton swung back at Trump from North Carolina.

1:58:34 He has no answers. This is what she says and she gets a round of applause for saying this. He has no answers for the substance. What substance? Is it some gobble goo or is it some theory? Play-doh. Silly putty. He has no answers for the substance. Yay! me personally because he has no answers on the substance. Clinton swung back at Trump from North Carolina. Which is great because I listened very closely to her speech and I knew that she wouldn't be rebutting him specifically. No. But everything she says is we need this. She never says how she's going to do it.

1:59:18 No, she's actually, what she's bitching about him about, what she's bitching about about him, she does. She absolutely never, never ever says what she's going to do. She says, this is what we need and I'll do it, but she doesn't say how she's going to do it. No, not possible. Oh man. Okay, let me see well the one last one I do want to get this one I must get her off the list which is that this is a another I think there's on ABC and again they let Trump go on and drop memes and he just does so many of them as hard to keep up.

1:59:56 But this is another one. I don't know which one it is now. Oh, I'm sorry. This is the only one that's left and I just think it is Hillary versus Trump. Blood money. Ah, this one. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's attacked Republican rival Donald Trump. Stop, stop, stop. This is Democracy Now! and I want to preface this now. Democracy Now! They're so myopic, they don't seem to understand that when they're playing Trump clips, they're pushing these memes out there. They're almost naive about it. No, they're not almost. They are completely naive. The number one clip is, she's a world-class liar. They keep playing it over and over again. Yeah, and democracy now does this constantly, and they put this in. I found it hard to believe that they keep doing this, but they keep doing it stupidly. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's attacked Republican rival Donald Trump's economic policies and record of profiting off his company's bankruptcies. Speaking in Columbus, Ohio, Clinton said Trump would be dangerous to the U.S. economy.

2:00:53 Ronald Reagan said it. He said, we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility, two things that set us apart from much of the world. Now maybe Donald feels differently because he made a fortune filing bankruptcies and stiffing his creditors. I'll get to his business practices in a minute. But the United States of America doesn't do business Trump's way. Donald Trump, meanwhile, has said he'll offset a fundraising deficit with Clinton using his, quote, unlimited personal wealth. His remarks come amid reports Trump's campaign had only $1.3 million in cash on hand at the end of May, compared to Clinton's $42 million. Speaking to CBS News, Trump accused Clinton of raising blood money.

2:01:44 I don't want to devote the rest of my life to raising money from people. And you know, when she raises this money, every time she raises money, she's making deals. Just saying, could I be the ambassador to this? Could I do that? Make sure my business is taken care of. I mean, give me a break. All of the money she's raising, that's blood money. That's blood money. And that's right, by the way, we know. It actually is real blood money. Because these guys do, John Doar is one of them. He's a big Democrat supporter and he wants to be, I've been told, I haven't talked to him about this because he doesn't talk to me, but I mean I have talked to him in the past.

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Austin Goolsbee, Wall Street Influence, and Trade Wars

Former Obama economic advisor Austin Goolsbee defends Hillary Clinton's ties to Wall Street, arguing that taking their money does not mean she will be lenient on them. Goolsbee dismisses Trump's economic plans as "quackery" and warns of potential trade wars. The hosts mock Goolsbee's logic, suggesting it is absurd to believe donors fund candidates who intend to be "tough" on them.

austin goolsbee· wall street· trade wars· barack obama· economy

2:02:22 But he supposedly wants to be I think it's I'm not absolutely sure but I think he wants to be ambassador to England I think he's always wanted that yeah France or England, but he'll take England. I think I wanted the two I have one I did have one last clip just to show you how desperate things are and Austin Goolsbee remember him Oh yeah, the guy sounds like John Gruden. Who's John Gruden? John Gruden is the ex-coach of the Raiders who's now a commentator on some sports networks. He was the economic advisor to the Obama administration and so they gotta dig this guy up and

2:03:01 Very interesting the way he's trying to defend and well just listen to the fact that a majority of voters right now Look at her versus Donald Trump on the economy and say Trump. What does that say about Hillary Clinton? I don't quite know how to answer that question. I think she's running for president and you've seen in the polls Donald Trump, because he's a businessman, people said, well, he probably knows about business, he probably knows about the economy. I think virtually anyone who is saying that they think Donald Trump will be better for the economy has not actually read what Donald Trump's plan is. I actually have.

2:03:41 Let's hear how Austin Goolsbee interpreted those. You know, as I say, if it looks like a duck or walks like a duck, it's probably a duck. If it sounds like a quack, it's almost certainly comes straight from the Donald himself. Whoa! How long did you have to sit on that one, Goolsbee? Wow, he didn't even form it right. He totally blew it. I mean, we've got proposing to default on treasuries. Never said that. Proposing to start trade wars. No, never said that. That would send us into an immediate recession. Well, what the fuck do you know? Who proposes trade wars? Yeah, but that's what he's saying. This is the talking points. Where'd you get this clip? This is...

2:04:31 Maybe CNN? No, no, I don't know. I'm sorry. I can look it up for you. We'll play it and I'll look it up. Donald Trump himself said. Hillary Clinton has taken what, 26 million dollars in speeches, which of course are incredibly embarrassing. You don't want to show those transcripts because they're either so short or non-existent. But she took money, real money, and this is how Austin Goolsbee explains this away. The kind of money she's taken? In Hillary Clinton's case, you can have some argument about should she be taking money, she's taking it from all industries.

2:05:30 Austin, people would say the influence of Wall Street versus the influence of the American Camping Association on the economy is pretty different. But the influence of Wall Street ought to be on policy. Is she promoting a policy that is forwarding the interests of Wall Street? She's doing the opposite. She's putting forward a plan that would be tougher on Wall Street. Wait for it. And Donald Trump, her opponent, is putting forward a plan that would get rid of regulations on Wall Street. So I think it's a little weird to be saying that because people who work at those banks gave her money, that that means that she's trying to be lenient on Wall Street. It's exactly the opposite. Makes nothing but sense.

2:06:09 Oh brother, what kind of logic is this? They gave her money and she's going to be tough on him. Yeah, that makes nothing but sense. And they put up with this. When I say they, I'm talking about these news guys. Yeah, the American public puts up with it. The American public. Alright Well just a funny then but I have another I so I want to play because the guy mentions walks like a duck and whatever This is the geese ISO You can use that whenever you feel like just something you recorded and felt it would be a short

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Joe Biden's Freudian Slip, Saddam vs Assad, and Sean Hannity

During an interview with Charlie Rose, Vice President Joe Biden makes a "Freudian slip" by saying the US needs to get "Saddam" out of power instead of "Assad." The hosts discuss the pattern of US intervention leading to the deaths of foreign leaders like Gaddafi and Hussein. A listener's comment comparing the host to Sean Hannity is addressed and dismissed.

joe biden· charlie rose· bashar al-assad· saddam hussein· gaddafi

2:06:51 It was the bit which I... You cut short. I cut short and I summarized as the woman with the pigs on the farm in England that can't kill her own animals. Oh, well I'm putting it back in. Just a little atramont, just before we get into our donation segment. This is on the Charlie Rose Show. Joe Biden on the Charlie Rose Show. Oh, you got... I've got this clip. Tell me. Tell me. And they say no fly zone is a big mistake. You haven't seen anywhere the military saying what we should do is more troops, more this. What we're talking about is we're going in and we're piece by piece trying to decimate ISIL and in the process al-Nusra so that we eliminate the most immediate single threat to US interest.

2:07:37 And at the same time, we're continuing to work with the international community to reach a negotiated settlement to get Saddam out of power. Has him leave. Assad out of power. Assad, I'm sorry. Freudian slip. Right. Freudian slip. Wow. First of all, to mess it up is one thing, but then to say Freudian slip, because that means you actually want to kill the guy. Like Saddam. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, that was a great clip. Yeah, he's yeah, right. They want to kill him. Of course they do. Every one of these guys they've taken out, they've managed to kill and some more let the public kill him. I mean, this happened with the Gaddafi. He killed him and Saddam was hung. And these guys all get killed. And all of Saddam's kids are dead and Gaddafi's kids are dead. And of course, we always remember. So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed. Yes, we came, we saw, he died.

2:08:34 All right, we have a few people to thank and let's thank them starting with Mark Leigh and Long Eaton Derbyshire did somebody just accuse me in the chat room of being Sean Hannity. That's low. Are you a big Bush supporter? How are they? Sean? I don't like big Bush. I'll call you Sean from now on. Alright, that's fine. Now why was it, what was it that you said that would make them say such a thing? I don't know. Defending Trump, I'm defending Trump. You're not really defending him. No, of course I'm not. What you're doing is you're pointing out that somebody is lying and is trying to become a, they're trying to go through the system to get these lies to become truth.

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Peerage Committee, Medi-Cal Restrictions, and Google Revolving Door

The hosts discuss the "Peerage Committee" for donor ranks and the restrictions of the Medi-Cal system, which reportedly prevents patients from paying cash for faster service. Former Google engineer Matt Cutts is noted for joining the Pentagon's "Defense Digital Service." The segment concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for several high-level donors.

baronet· medi-cal· google· matt cutts· revolving door

2:09:33 which is the way it works. Mark Ley in Long Eaton, Derbyshire, 12345. Sir Donald Borosky in Spokane Valley, Washington, 12345. And of course we have to read his note because he is a United Federation of Planets. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And he's got all his numbers on the back to show that he is now a baronet. Very good. Congratulations. Take a note somewhere that he's a baronet. In the morning gents though. I did not know it at the time I with my previous donation I attained attain the rank of baronet Accounting on the other side time flies while listening to the best podcast in the universe Please accept my first donation on my way to the rank of Baron by the way I wish there was a ceremony for these attaining the higher ranks We always put them in the in the credits, but there's no ceremony

2:10:23 which is what he's complaining about and we will take it under advisement. W-A-6-O-M-I, 73s. Yes, 73s. You forgot Mark Lay, I believe. No, I said Mark Lay in Long Eaton, Berbershire, UK. It said it twice actually. Then I didn't hear it. So we have Sir Donald Borowski, Donald... It's not in the notes. Borowski is going to be a baronet. Okay. We'll take your question under advisement. Yes, it'll go to the peerage committee and then from there goes to Brussels where a group of committee members will look this idea over and we'll get back to you probably in about six months to a year.

2:11:04 Alex Simkus, no, we'll think about it. Alex Simkus in Normandy Park, Washington, $100. Josh Harbaugh in Middleton, Ohio, $100. Sir Sam Leung in Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Toronto, yeah. Ah, this was your Easter egg? Yeah, it was. This is, yeah, yeah. I put the boob donation behind a Hillary picture, and he apparently caught this. And he's the only one, I might add. Do you still think... Hey, Digiguru, I got it, I'm sorry, Jesus. Didn't you see it? Oh, shut up. Um... What the hell was I gonna say now? Oh, did you... It's about the Easter eggs. No, about Guilfoyle, because she's normally the boob Easter egg. She's not looking so good anymore.

2:11:59 Huh, I didn't I haven't seen her cuz I don't watch Fox's but now I'm only saying this because they position her in the gams chair Which is the chair the left games here the left hand you have chair, which is done on purpose and there's no doubt about it We're speaking as television executives Tremendous legs there. I think eyes detect a slight canker Lidge Well, she's not wearing the right shoes then. This is correct. She's gaining weight maybe. Let's call wardrobe and make sure that they know about that. But now of course you should bring up again that we're not criticizing her for anything because this is the way executives talk at the network. Yes. Yeah. Different shoes. I think it's a good point. We'll pay attention to it. Wardrobe will get on it. Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, $75. Steve Doo in someplace in California, Pennsylvania, really?

2:12:54 Hmm. I wonder what that is that really a town there someone wants him no idea He's got some no vote here. That's pretty lengthy. He becomes a knight. Oh, he's a knight. He's a knight boy good What would read his note? This goes my PayPal donation of 71 75 what better way to become a knight than with tits you ask I ask you yes, that's right 71 75 is tits in hacks or I Asked you the sole member of the 451 club I wish to be known as sir Fahrenheit the cognitive dissident knight of wheels 18 you can call me sir Fahrenheit for short fellow producers can follow at truck 51 50 and

2:13:33 to see a glimpse of where I'm driving around PA, Ohio and West Virginia if so inclined. I would like to have the balanced news diet jingle added to the end of the segment, add me into the karma shot, and as a sadly former West by God Virginian, I would like to have meth sluts and moonshine at the round table. Hold on a second. Meth, sluts, and moonshine. And moonshine, because he's from West Virginia. Thank you for insulting the entire state. Well, yes. Please. It's okay. Put it on the list. It's on the list. Hey, he's a knight. He can have whatever he wants at the round table. That's right. They get their way. Keep it classy, knights. Lee, well, you know.

2:14:18 Lee Oliverus, Lee Oliverus, one of the two, in Pasadena, California, 69-69. And he's got a birthday for his hot woman person, his hot woman person friend, Reina. And we'll put a little karma for him at the end. James Durante in San Diego, California, 61-19. Roger Esty, double nickels on the dime in Tampa, Florida. Sarah Langhofer Thawne in Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, 52. dollars. Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona, 50-50. And now we drop to the $50 donations. We run out of space really fast today. These are all $50 name and place. Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan. Joshua Landon in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jason Daniels in Parts Unknown. Brandon

2:15:11 Is it Merrick or Menck? Menck. Brennan Menck in Tempe, Arizona. Patrick Maycomb in New York City. Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia. Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois. Joshua Defabo in San Francisco. I'll wave out the window. Benjamin Smith in Oakland. I'll wave out the window. And that will conclude our whole group of people with a kind of a whimper, not a bang. I wouldn't mind people do a show coming up on Sunday, short number of days to get us a little more interest.

2:15:50 And we thank everybody who came in under $50, usually for reasons of anonymity and but also a lot of people on our monthly's. Please check out the monthly donations or just some subscription options that we have. And sorry. And make sure to check once in a while to see if it hasn't been canceled. Yeah. And if it says we canceled, that's obviously not true. It's sad when that happens, but that's how PayPal works. Yes. Check out the options and pick one up. The $4 thing is quite popular. And I think maybe we should, let's see, we want to hand out a little bit some karma. Do we need any special kind of karma? Or was it just jobs karma that people wanted? Jobs is good. Jobs is always good. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

2:16:46 Thank you very much everybody. Appreciate it. I think well again, we're gonna take into account that he may want some kind of ceremony in the future We do have one two three four we have four nights Hold on a second. Oh, I'm so sorry. That's not true. We have belated birthdays. This thing's got a little messed up today on the spreadsheet I'm so sorry. Let me see ah

2:17:40 I don't know how this happened, but belated birthdays. Richard Harrell celebrated on June 18th. Lisa Stelter says happy birthday to her husband. He celebrated on June 20th. I'm not quite sure how that got into the knights category. We have two knights. There we go. Two knights, two swords. Your sword, sir, please. Okay. Yeah, very good. All right, we need John Kumar to stand up and we need Stephen Dew. Both of you have contributed to the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe, fact, in the amount of $1,000 or more. And we are very proud to have you here at the roundtable. I'm going to pronounce the K-T-Nights of the No Agenda Roundtable. And yes, you are now known as Sir John of South London and Sir

2:18:22 Fahrenheit, the cognitive dissident knight of the wheels of 18, also known as Sir Fahrenheit. For you gentlemen, we have Messlots and Moonshine. We got Legos and Lendwarmers, Hookers and Blow, Rainforest and Chardonnay, Espresso and Hemp Milk, Johnny Walker Green Label, Whiskey and Wet Wipes, Three Geishas and a Bucket of Fried Chicken, Boxed and Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Spiked and Designed on Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils. And Mutton and Mead, and for you gentlemen, head over to noagendanation.com slash rings. Let Eric the Show know your size, where it can reach you, and we'll send it out to you. And thank you again, everybody who supports the show, not just financially, but by means of clips, art, information, feedback. It's really, really, really appreciated. There's no other way we could do this program unless it was done in this very manner. It just doesn't happen that way. Well, I have a complaint, maybe.

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

EgyptAir Black Boxes, US Uncut, and Google Search Bias

The investigation into the EgyptAir crash continues as memory modules from the black boxes are reportedly damaged. The organization "US Uncut" is identified as a "targeting organization" rather than a news outlet, with alleged ties to Bernie Sanders and George Soros. The hosts discuss potential bias in Google search results favoring Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.

egyptair· us uncut· george soros· google search· alexander soros

2:19:12 Okay. You know, when we do the knighting, you're always on my left doing the right shoulder of the guy and I do the left shoulder. How come I can't do the right shoulder? Um, well, we can switch it up. Well, why? It just seems to me that it's awkward. I don't understand why it's always been that. Who determined that you get to do that shoulder and I have to do the other one? Theater of the mind. Very good. Hey still no, I mean, no still no No news on the black boxes the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder from the Egypt air crash apparently The memory modules are damaged and it will take several weeks to get the data Let me see we have a jingle for that Yes, and these things take you know they take 3600 G's

2:20:15 Is what these things can take but they're not waterproof you don't what do you mean? They're not waterproof well I mean that isn't that no they are it doesn't even matter It's a memory chip chips not going to be you can throw your USB chip in the water. It'll work no, huh, but this is this member the plane that the Pilot said you know they said all the co-pilot crashed him into the mountains oh And then, uh, and with the chip popped out, but then they luckily they found the chip. Come on, people. Come on. Yeah, not good. No, it's, it's completely not good. Hey, and that, uh, I wanted to bring some of that. You brought it up first that us uncut. Yeah. Uh, people don't send me articles from us uncut. This is, this is a group where this is not a news organization.

2:21:08 This is a targeting organization. They're very proud. They hold protests at Verizon stores, BP stations, FedEx stores, Target stores, Apple stores. You thought that they had an agenda. Well, holy crap, do they ever. This is not a news organization. This is propaganda. You can't even find out who's behind it, except, seems Bernie people. I'm thinking Soros. Bernie people, exactly. Bernie people. Now did I see, who was hanging out with Soros' son? That was Obama. Obama went to Soros' son Alexander to his apartment, was hanging out over the weekend. That's kind of odd. Strategizing. Yeah, what can we do next? What can we do next? I gotta get my, I gotta get my, my, my,

2:22:02 My history downright, I gotta get this gun control thing out of the way, I gotta do all these things so I can have a legacy. My legacies is not good so far. I'm gonna look like a failed president. Can you guys help me? Yeah, because he won't be proud of Obamacare. That's not something to be proud of. Oh God, no. It's unbelievable. My daughter's got like some crazy California whatever it is and nobody takes, nobody'll take the thing. All the doctors bail out. I don't know, we can't do it. It's too much paperwork. Really? And my doctor, when I talked to my doctor about what's going on, he says right now, he says the worst part about being a doctor is that

2:22:44 And they make a routine, and then he told me this, by the way, too. He says that he talked to somebody in the business and they claim that what I'm about to say is true. That when you are, when the doctors have to clear everything from a pimple to a boil to a prescription with the insurance companies that are going to pay most of this bill. Right. And they are told to refuse everything. He says we eventually get it. We eventually get the okay. I get it. But we have to go through asking and asking and asking over and over and over again until they finally fund it.

2:23:19 And he says that one of his friends who works in the business, they hire kids out of school and they're told to just say no to everything. Right, and then they eventually settle for less, I believe. That's pretty much the... No, well, maybe, maybe not. Whatever the case is, they say no to every single request. You got a pimple, you want to buy some ointment? No, no, no. No good. He says it's a nightmare. He says you spend all your time arguing with these guys. It's a huge waste of time. Then I find out my daughter needs to get a mole removed and he just has to go through a rigamarole. I just call up a local dermatologist. No, no, we can't do that. What if we just pay cash? Just pay cash and you can have the mole removed. No, no, we cannot. Anyone in Medi-Cal, once you're in Medi-Cal or any of these systems, by law,

2:24:09 You can get busted if you're taking cash to get something done. Even the great, the British system, they'll do stuff for cash. No, can't take cash. It's against the law. You have to go through the system. This is horrible. That's what they talk about when you say you can't have your own doctor. You can't even, if you were in the system, you can't even Pay cash to your own doctor. No, if you want to go to your old doctor. No, no, no No, you are required to go through the system, which is that they have their own doctors. It's almost like an HMO So you have to go right right, right? It's horrible. We were talking I'm looking at see if I had this clip we were talking I don't was the last show or the show before that about

2:24:52 the exchange, the digital cyber SWAT team, whatever the hell it is, that they want to collude with business and have people from private companies come in and work for the government and then go out again. So they've made a big hire. And this is very concerning. This is concerning to me, of concern. Guess who from Google is going to join the defense digital service also known as the Defense Department's digital SWAT team Eric Schmidt close Matt cuts. Oh, well. He's not with Google anymore. He had gone back to Google He took a he took a he was just a sabbatical He is the guy who knows exactly how Google the search engine works and

2:25:47 And he's now going to, uh, here's Pentagon spokes whole confirmed cuts is hiring is not just it's hiring and and told FCW. That's where I got this from. The participants are typically assigned to a team based on what issues the Department of Defense faces. And I guess what he's going to work on is hack the Pentagon, which is a bug bounty program. But also they could do a couple other things, but I just find it of concern.

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

EPA Climate Rhetoric, YouTube Royalty Dispute, and Trent Reznor

EPA Director Gina McCarthy criticizes "climate deniers" in a recent speech, using a telephone booth metaphor. A major dispute between music artists and YouTube is highlighted, with Trent Reznor claiming the platform is "built on the backs of free stolen content." The hosts explain that streaming royalties primarily benefit record labels rather than the actual songwriters and composers.

gina mccarthy· epa· youtube· trent reznor· taylor swift

2:26:24 that you've got this revolving door. Oh yeah, well the revolving door. Yeah and of course I've a million times I've received the uh well if you google Hillary then you get this and you google Trump and you get that. Are you surprised? Are you really surprised that there's that there's hanky-panky going on? Seriously you're surprised? They're all in for Hillary. I thought that was pretty interesting. And I have, let's see, oh, Gina McCarthy, always fun to have Gina McCarthy with a quote. She is the EPA director, Environmental Protection Agency, and she is, she's just beside herself. This is the woman who keeps saying,

2:27:07 that climate change is now. Well, in fact, just listen to the clip. It's short. Nothing, I'm just mumbling. You can see it every single day. You just need to get out of that telephone booth where other climate deniers hang out and Open your eyes and see what's happening. So what is this? What is this metaphor of hanging out in a phone? What is the point of that? I'm just restraining to look and see if my how my mud flats are doing

2:28:05 Yeah, they're still exactly there. There's nothing's changed. Well, I didn't get to do the jingles and there was nothing changed. No. Yeah, there's nothing. Mudflats are there. Yeah, there was a, so, music business stuff. I always love talking about this because the misinformation sometimes looks like disinformation. Before you listen to tech horny shows, we're going to tell you what how it works and what it is. This is probably, this is CBS. because there was a number of artists who said, and I follow this very closely, that they have a real problem with YouTube. It's not just YouTube, but all streaming services. But there is a distinction that just... people believe that these billions of dollars that the streaming services claim they pay, that is actually going to songwriters and composers, which is just

2:28:52 Factually not true, but here's a little bit. This got snowed under because of all the other news, of course. Morning Swift and her fellow artists published an open letter to Congress calling today's digital copyright laws outdated, saying they failed to protect artists' interests. But YouTube is firing back saying it's paid billions of dollars to record companies over the years and has secure safeguards in place to protect their copyrighted material. The reason for the bad blood with YouTube isn't artist approved uploads like this official music video. It's because of others who use copyrighted music in unapproved videos they upload. More than 180 artists, from Taylor Swift to Paul McCartney to Lady Gaga, signed an open letter to Congress asking for change. Quote, the existing laws threaten the continued viability of songwriters and recording artists to survive from the creation of music.

2:29:48 Enacted in 1998, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act gives services like YouTube a safe harbor from copyright infringement liabilities, as long as they act quickly to remove protected content. But artists say services like YouTube are now overprotected, allowing quote major tech companies to grow and generate huge profits while artists' earnings continue to diminish. Musician Trent Reznor went even further saying YouTube is quote built on the backs of free stolen content totally agree All of it is theft. And I just want you to understand when you're out there and someone says something, just so you understand how it works. The money that is being sent is to the owners of the masters. The masters are typically owned by the record labels. So whenever you use the song, you have to pay. That's going to the, mainly to the labels. There's a small cut that goes to the artists in that case. The issue is songwriters and composers. The amount of money they get,

2:30:46 is statutory by law. And it is just not enough. It has been finagled and there's been lobbyists who have finally set this price so low. When you hear about someone being, you know, a song being played 10 million times, yeah, the record company makes good money and therefore the artist will make 5% of that over retail, so really only 2%. of that, and none of the advertising money, I might point out. And all the record executives have stock in all these companies. YouTube is really the worst, I will agree, because all these hundreds of millions of plays result in so little money for the people who wrote the songs. Not about the masters who wrote the song and who composed it. And that is what the issue is.

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Greek Bailout, Jean-Claude Juncker, and Baylor Sexual Assault

Greece receives a 7.5 billion euro bailout tranche, which Jean-Claude Juncker claims is a "message of hope," though most funds will go toward debt servicing. The discussion shifts to Baylor University, where President Ken Starr was fired following a sexual assault scandal involving the football team. The hosts question why the university is held responsible for investigating crimes that occurred off-campus.

greece· bailout· jean-claude juncker· baylor university· ken starr

2:31:33 Just want people to understand because it's very very frustrating to me that all this misinformation out there, but yeah, YouTube are a-holes. Theft. That's all. Okay. Well, let's just slide on that. It was a pet peeve thing. Yeah, well it is kind of a pet peeve. It is a pet peeve. I don't see Curry's Pet Peeve of the Day. Never let a good crisis go to waste when nobody's looking. What you want to do is you want to go do something really, really nasty. That's what Junker the Drunker did once again. Here's news from Greece. Greece has received more than 7 billion euros in bailout funds after a review of the country's progress in implementing reforms. It comes amid the European Commission President's visit to Athens almost a year after a massive standoff which saw emergency funding ended and Greek voters reject EU bailout terms. The visit of the President of the European Commission to Greece coincided with the release of a 7.5 billion euros bailout tranche. But in spite of praise for the progress made on structural reforms,

2:32:34 Mr Juncker's presence in Athens also served as a reminder that the effort to put the country's ailing economy back on track should not by any means slow down. Most of the new bailout money will be used to pay debts to the International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank, with the rest going towards paying off state arrears. Jean-Claude Juncker meeting the Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras says the country has taken an important step towards getting through the crisis He cited reforms to pensions, the tax system and the launch of a large privatization program. I came to bring a message of hope, at least that's what I believe, that Greece has overcome a significant hurdle and can now go down the right road. All the way along this path, everyone at the European Commission will stand alongside Greece. So let me understand. The right road is buying an island. Oh yeah, so the grand privatization scheme is on.

2:33:26 So we can sell off all the rest of the bits and bobs that we hadn't already sold off. All the money they're taking is going to service their debt, and you get more austerity measures. Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't burned the place down. It's on its way. There's nothing left for these people. There's nothing left for them. The EU doesn't need Brexit to fall apart. It's happening. I just hope we're alive when it happens. Well, I'm pretty sure we will be. I have a kind of a funny clip that I've been thinking about. This clip is interesting. This is, and I want to discuss it, and this will be my last thing for this show. This is the rape culture clip, and it's discussing Baylor. Right up the road. Right, it's right up the road from where the main guy got kicked out, who used to be, he was the guy who went after the Clintons, coincidentally. Kenneth Starr was running the place. Ah, yes, because of the kid for 20 minutes of action kid. The 20 minutes of action. No, no, no, that's the Stanford kid.

2:34:27 Oh, what was the Baylor thing? The 20 minutes... well, Baylor was the coach of the football team. Gotcha. There was a couple rapists on the football team. And I see this whole thing as an attack on major male sports. And I'll tell you why when we play the clip, and I think it might be obvious. An attack on sports, an attack on the university as a whole, and an attack on men, it's an anti-men thing, and because there's some craziness to this story, and I want you to play the clip and then I'll discuss.

2:35:04 Today the Big 12, one of the major conferences in college sports, ordered an accounting of how Baylor investigated sexual assault allegations. Last month, University President Ken Starr was fired after it was found that administrators had looked the other way. Mark Strassman is there. At Baylor, the Baptist student code bans sex on campus. But many female students say what's tolerated is rape. I've experienced rape culture here on campus. Audrey Hamlin, a 20-year-old junior here, says she was sexually assaulted but chose not to report it. Now she's part of a campus support group that counsels other victims. How many women on campus do you know who've been sexually assaulted? Probably about

2:35:53 20. Three unidentified female students sued Baylor this week claiming they were raped and the school did nothing. One suit called Baylor a hunting ground for sexual predators. That case involves this off-campus house. The woman claims she was drugged and raped. Lawyer Paula Elliott represents her. At one point the investigators sent her an email that said that there were two other women that were sexually assaulted the same evening that she was. Federal investigators are looking at 195 colleges and universities for improperly handling sex assaults on campus. Brandon Vandenberg, a Vanderbilt football player, faces 15 years in prison for encouraging the gang rape of his unconscious girlfriend. At Stanford, swimmer Brock Turner got six months for assaulting an unconscious woman.

2:36:49 At Baylor alone, at least eight football players have faced rape charges or accusations since 2009. In a statement to us, a university spokesman said, we acknowledge our failures in the past and our aim is to set the highest standards in this area. Hmm. Okay, ask a couple questions. Since when? Is it not the police department of the town who is supposed to investigate certain rapes and other assaults? Why does the university have this responsibility for some unknown reason? Especially in the case of the women that they specifically say were raped off campus in a house. Wouldn't you call the police? Here's what I know about Baylor. Baylor is in Waco. And Waco only exists because of Baylor.

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

Waco Jurisdiction, University "Infection," and Safe Spaces

The hosts debate the jurisdiction of university police versus city police in Waco, Texas, regarding the Baylor scandal. They suggest the focus on campus sexual assault is part of a broader "assault on the university system" involving safe spaces and student protests. A theory is mentioned from the Cold War era suggesting that infecting universities is a method to bring a country to its knees.

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2:37:42 And it's creepy up there. It is really creepy. If you're driving on I-35, the stadium, which is brand new, $100 million, unbelievable. The town is Baylor. They run everything, including the cops, no doubt about it. Fine. So what they do is say, hey, we'll take care of this. This is something we take care of privately. You guys don't need to do that. Well, apparently they don't take care of anything, but why should I don't see why they shouldn't in the first place. Waco has its own police department. I don't care if Baylor bosses them around. I mean, Berkeley, for example, is a monster, 40,000 students, much bigger than Baylor. And they have an influence on Berkeley, mostly political.

2:38:26 But they don't boss the Berkeley police around to tell them what to do. Yeah, but you don't have, does Berkeley have a football team like Baylor? Berkley isn't, yes, actually, technically they do. Do they win as many games? No. I'm going to say right now I'm out of my league asking these questions. I have no business asking this. It's a major football stadium they have in Berkeley. It holds, at one time, held 90,000. They've cut it down to 16. So I believe the university police are police. They have the Berkeley police. There is a campus police here too. There's University of California police and they are indeed police.

2:39:02 But when something happens off campus, which is what they keep citing because these fraternities are not on the campus technically, they're off campus. And in the report they say off campus. Why is that Baylor's responsibility and not the Waco Police Department? I have no way to respond. This is all part of this whole thing about, oh, we need our safe spaces. We need this. We don't want to hear a certain language. You don't want to do this. There is a, this is an assault on the university system, it seems to me. Now, yes, if Baylor comes out and says, we run the, we're everybody's, we're, we're, be all end all in Waco. Somebody gets a parking ticket in front of city hall in Waco. It goes to the Baylor police department. If they, if that, that's not true.

2:39:51 I just don't get the jurisdiction here. Why is he... and then the government's looking at 190 colleges and they cite Stanford? And then Stanford had this rape guy, which was... it's got nothing to do with... why does it have anything to do with Stanford? What do you think the reasoning is behind all this? You had some more there. I think as I said at the beginning, I think there's some sort of an attack going on. an attack on academia, I'm not sure the tuition system, there's all of a sudden everyone's taking responsibility. I just do not see why a woman being assaulted somewhere in the town where she happens to be a student, she's a student of Berkeley, she's a student of Stanford, and she gets assaulted in downtown Palo Alto. Why this has anything to do with Stanford itself? Well, what do you think?

2:40:42 I'm just what I'm saying, I'm introducing the topic for further discussion and I think it'd come we're gonna see more and more of this and I think it'll come to us eventually. I don't know. Follow the money. Well, yeah, I don't see it. You know what? I know people in Waco. I'm gonna I'm gonna put this forward. And I bet I'll get a lot more of crazy stories about what's going on with Baylor and Waco. It's creepy there, John. It's creepy. I've been there. I've been to Waco. I've been, yeah. And did you like it? I didn't hate it like you do. No, it's creepy! Okay, well you must have been there on a gloomy day.

2:41:21 They have a classic little city hall area and then some parallel parking around it and then I left. There was nothing in Waco, as far as I could tell. I just happened to be driving through the area. That's exactly the point. There's nothing in Waco but Baylor. Anyway, I just I find these stories to be interesting. I find it very inconclusive to the program I think we should I thought you would have a big finish all you do is At the beginning I want to introduce the topic okay because I have no clue but I get the sense that it has something to do with the safe spaces and the sit-ins and the University of Missouri and Yale and it's just some part of a bigger scheme there is a scheme afoot of

2:42:08 Well, you know, the Russians always said in the Cold War, if you really want to bring a country to its knees, you have to infect the universities. And I think that's what's happened. You know, we've had a massive infection of moronity. in our universities, and it was primed for it with all the cost of education and people thinking they have rights. And then somehow, maybe Soros, I don't know, someone's introduced all these crazy things and it is, as you're pointing out, uprooting our civilization. I find it distressing.

2:42:51 I just do not see the connection. You know, I can see you have a large area that's run by a university, have their own police on the campus. Then there's off-campus, which is right two feet away. And that is supposed to be... Where does the policing end for the university police? I don't know, but I think I need to go to my own safe space. And where's their court? Do they take people to certain... I mean this whole thing is very suspicious. The university is not, you know, it's not a police agency, it seems to me, but it seems to be blamed for that. Knowing our no agenda intelligence network, I am confident we will have at least some answers come Sunday. I think this seems a little... the whole thing has got me.

2:43:34 Well, you just pissed off about the Warriors losing. It's just not put you in a good mood. I don't want to discuss that. That was fixed. It was rigged. It was ridiculous. And everybody, we thank you so much for tuning in to our program. Remember, we have a show coming up on Sunday. Dvorak.org slash NA. We need as much help as we can get. It's taken a lot out of me. I will be in the woods, but I will be doing the show live from the Airstream of Consciousness. So I look forward to that. What woods? The woods. Until then, coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper in downtown Austin-Tejas, FEMA Region 6 in the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Adios, mofos!

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Show Outro, Cocaine Gaffe, and Neil deGrasse Tyson

The hosts sign off, announcing the next live show will be broadcast from an "Airstream of Consciousness." The episode ends with a montage of clips, including a gaffe regarding cocaine production in Mexico and a parody of Neil deGrasse Tyson discussing "killer asteroids." The final segments reiterate the show's reliance on listener support via Dvorak.org/NA.

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2:42:51 I just do not see the connection. You know, I can see you have a large area that's run by a university, have their own police on the campus. Then there's off-campus, which is right two feet away. And that is supposed to be... Where does the policing end for the university police? I don't know, but I think I need to go to my own safe space. And where's their court? Do they take people to certain... I mean this whole thing is very suspicious. The university is not, you know, it's not a police agency, it seems to me, but it seems to be blamed for that. Knowing our no agenda intelligence network, I am confident we will have at least some answers come Sunday. I think this seems a little... the whole thing has got me.

2:43:34 Well, you just pissed off about the Warriors losing. It's just not put you in a good mood. I don't want to discuss that. That was fixed. It was rigged. It was ridiculous. And everybody, we thank you so much for tuning in to our program. Remember, we have a show coming up on Sunday. Dvorak.org slash NA. We need as much help as we can get. It's taken a lot out of me. I will be in the woods, but I will be doing the show live from the Airstream of Consciousness. So I look forward to that. What woods? The woods. Until then, coming to you from the crackpot condo in the skyscraper in downtown Austin-Tejas, FEMA Region 6 in the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Adios, mofos!

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