Episode 79 · Thursday, 12 March 2009

Something is Amiss in Gitmo and Crackpot Nations

A guilty plea in the Madoff scandal triggers a push for global financial governance while investigative reports link the Vice President to unauthorized overseas hit squads.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 79

About this episode

Bernie Madoff pleaded guilty to 11 felony counts this week, but the $67 billion Ponzi scheme is being framed as a catalyst for a new global judicial order. Whistleblower Harry Markopoulos and the law firm McCarter & English are reportedly advocating for an International Financial Court backed by the IMF and World Bank. This proposed body would mirror the International Criminal Court, potentially stripping national sovereignty over financial crimes before Madoff's June sentencing.

In Washington, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh alleges that the Joint Special Operations Command operated as a private assassination wing reporting directly to Vice President Dick Cheney. Meanwhile, the FBI raided the D.C. Chief Technology Officer’s office, leading to the bribery arrests of Yusuf Akar and Sushil Bansal. Overseas, Baxter International faces scrutiny after seasonal flu vaccines were found contaminated with live H5N1 bird flu virus, while Georgia was disqualified from the Eurovision Song Contest for the political lyrics in their disco-themed entry, We Don't Want Put In.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the week's chaos from London and San Francisco, navigating the confusion of early American daylight savings time. The duo highlights the absurdity of Captain Sully Sullenberger’s new $3 million poetry book deal and the rise of eco-psychology, where researchers at the University of West England suggest that climate change skepticism should be classified as a mental disorder.


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CHAPTER 01 / 23 Discussion

No Agenda Introduction, Daylight Savings, and Streaming URLs

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from London and San Francisco, discussing the show's "no agenda" ad-lib format and the importance of live streaming for audience feedback. They share primary URLs including noagendastream.com and noagendalibrary.com for listeners to access content and chat. The hosts also note the scheduling confusion caused by the United States moving to daylight savings time a month earlier than the United Kingdom.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· daylight savings· noagendastream.com· noagendalibrary.com

00:07 Adam Curry, John C. DeVorek. Adding value to your Amy Winehouse News Portfolio. This is No Agenda for Thursday, March 12th, 2009. This is No Agenda. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation East in the Crackpot Command Center located in Southwest London, I'm Adam Curry. And I'm John C. DeVorek here which I think I'm in the Crackpot Command Center but I'm not the crackpot. Dude remember Succinct ending clear one and I potted it up and everything and still you're talking about what I gave you sound you know We're never gonna get this right because we don't have this team. We don't have a script. We just add live That's why the show is called no agenda that indeed hello everybody. It's Thursday. It is I

00:58 March 12th 2009 streaming live across the universe as well as recording on podcast Everybody you wonder why this streaming thing is so important to everybody because it's a whole different vibe It's important for us to well. It's good to have the feedback I agree, but well that's it there you go casting is generally You know kind of it's supposed to be location free time constraint free You know download and play yeah, but on the other hand you know we are in news We are a news program, so if you hear our news a week or two late

01:35 Yeah, there's lots of gems in there that are ever where you could be dead That's right Speaking of evergreen I could be dead any minute now some guys thought this was the best intro in a while Oh good great. Good. I'm happy so we have three URLs I just want to mention at the top of the show For people listening live we have well first of all the stream now has its own URL which makes a lot of sense duh It's no agenda stream.com you hit that and you should fire up iTunes or some other something that'll accept a stream shoutcast stream then we have no agenda drop.com which is the drop site that we use for You know information links

02:21 videos, audio, etc. But it has a chat system built into it now, which is pretty cool, which is filled up to the max, not to the max, but it's filling up quickly as we speak. And then of course the most important one, which we'll talk about later, noagendalibrary.com. So those are our main URLs. Were you a little messed up with the With daylight savings time? Because I was ready, I had it all figured out. 3pm would be 8am your time, you know, around 10 after 8 is when we usually get going. Yeah, I seem to be still, you know, I'm still off a little bit and I got up at 8 instead of my normal 7, which is because of daylight, you know, whatever. And I haven't, I usually don't, I'm usually not that kind of stuck on a cycle like that, but apparently

03:14 I was, so I'm late. Sorry. It's okay. I actually, I have to say, I wouldn't mind if it stayed like this. The difference between seven hours with London and San Francisco and eight hours and four hours with New York is fantastic. You know, we actually overlap. There's, you know, the meetings this week have been an hour earlier for me, which has been great because after the meeting then I can get some stuff done before dinner. They don't have daylight savings in England. Oh yes they do, except remember Bush moved that up by a month in 2007. So in a month you're going to... Yeah, we catch up in a month. With disadvantages over? Yeah, we catch up in a month. Which is just wacky when you think about it.

CHAPTER 02 / 23 Discussion

Bernie Madoff Guilty Plea, International Financial Court Proposal

Bernie Madoff pleaded guilty to all 11 charges related to his $67 billion Ponzi scheme, leading to speculation about his sentencing and safety. A theory is presented that the complexity of the case will be used as a pretext to establish an International Financial Court (IFC) backed by the IMF and World Bank. The law firm McCarter & English, which represents whistleblower Harry Markopoulos, is identified as a primary advocate for this new global judicial body.

bernie madoff· ponzi scheme· international financial court· imf· harry markopoulos· mccarter & english

03:55 You know, why did that have to be a month earlier? That's, well, who knows. The whole thing is ridiculous. To save more energy. So the breaking news as we speak is apparently Obama's... Oh! Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Obama's CTO's office was raided by the FBI this morning. No way! You're kidding me. No. They weren't after necessarily the CTO but there's some guy apparently they're looking into who has an Arab name or something. I don't know. Maybe it's not Arab. Actually, it's maybe Indonesian. I have no idea what the name is but something's up. I didn't... I was following two other pieces of... The big news that I was following was Madoff pleading guilty to all 11 counts, all 11 charges. I don't know what they all 11 are.

04:47 And just laughing, laughing at the pathetic coverage of CNBC. And I checked around MSNBC and C-SPAN was basically showing live stuff of the Geithner questioning today. But everyone misses, so you got, what's his name, Larry Kudlow? Cudlow. Cudlow. And he's sitting there like, you know, well what is gonna happen? You know, so he goes in, he confesses to everything. Of course everyone wants him to go to jail immediately because he's been hanging out in his penthouse, his million-dollar penthouse for the past, what, two months? Million. Multi-million. Multi-million. Seven, eight million dollars? It could be more than that. I see these things for sale. It's just... The 20 million, 25 million. Yeah, it's not a shack. No, no.

05:35 And so first, and I've been following this throughout the week. I don't know if you've followed any of it, John, but the first thing was, well, you know, is he going to do a plea bargain? Is he going to do a deal, which would basically mean in the American justice system, you say, hey, you know what? I'll rat out some other guys. And then you give me a break and I don't have to go to jail for 150 years or I can go to not a maximum security prison or club fed as many would be calling it. Well, but I've latched on to, I believe that everything has gone entirely according to script. because I've figured out what this is all about. You've deconstructed the script. I have reverse engineered the script that he's executing his lines for perfectly.

06:24 Of course, the guy goes into the courthouse, he says, I'm guilty on all 11 counts, I'm guilty. So that's it. There's no hearing. That's end of story. There's no trial necessary. It's okay. Done. All right. Now, of course, there's this minor issue of the $67 billion that has gone missing. And what exactly was the extent of his crime? So that, of course, plays into sentencing. So how do you sentence a guy like Madoff, John? Well... Considering the international nature of the entanglement of his Ponzi scheme. Well they gotta...

07:06 Well, you know one of the theories that's going around talk radio scene is that Madoff is pleading guilty and wants to get into jail as fast as he can to get to be safe from assassination attempts. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just telling you what they're saying. Yes, that is exactly what's going on around talk radio. Okay, but I'll tell you what's what is actually happening. Okay, but before you do, okay, then I'll come up with a I'll see if I can come up with something more interesting. You won't. What is happening at this very moment and where this is headed now that sentencing is supposed to be somewhere in June there will... Wait, wait, why does it take so long? Well, I'm gonna tell you why.

07:47 So the judge is going to say either before the sentencing in June or on the sentencing, he's going to say at a certain point, you know what, this is just too complicated, there's no way, you know, the judicial system as it is right now in this court and whatever bullshit he's going to come up with, we can't figure it out, we're not quite sure how to sentence him, we're not quite sure how to move forward. Enter the International Financial Court, which is now a big push being made by 45 law firms in conjunction with the IMF to create the IFC, the International Financial Court. The number one law firm pushing for this, leading this group is McCarter & English. McCarter & English are counsel, i.e. the lawyers to Madoff whistleblower Harry Markopoulos.

08:41 Remember Harry Markopoulos, we discussed that on the show, he led a special forces team for the military. So this guy like a Navy SEAL type deal. And now he wants to push for the creation of the International Financial Court so that they can take the sentencing part into the IFC and the bankers, because that's what it'll consist of, the bankers are going to become the law. So it makes perfect sense that Madoff just said, just play along, make it very difficult. I'm not going to fight anything. There's going to be no drawn out court case here because I just say, go ahead. I'm guilty of everything. You go figure it out how you want to punish me, how you want to follow up with your sentencing and then in pop these lawyers and they're going to say, they're already saying we need to create the International Financial Court and this will be proposed and I believe announced at the G20 meeting in London.

CHAPTER 03 / 23 Discussion

Madoff Family Cover-up Theory, Global Governance Skepticism

A counter-theory suggests Bernie Madoff is taking the fall for a relative, questioning how a 70-year-old former NASDAQ chairman could operate such a complex scheme alone. The discussion shifts to the potential power of international courts, comparing the proposed IFC to the International Criminal Court and the U.S. refusal to recognize its authority over American officials. A prediction is made that the IFC will be officially announced before Madoff's sentencing in June 2009.

bernie madoff· nasdaq· international criminal court· globalism· financial predictions

09:39 Coming up United Nations IMF. Oh and also the World Bank of course. What's your theory John? Well my theory is that made us covering up for one of his relatives who actually did the crime Dude that stopped in your tracks there. Well. No because it's it's so feeble. That's why I may be feeble, but that's the whole thing. I don't think he was that involved. I looked at his old testimonies about how strong the FCC is. None of this makes any sense. People have been saying, when did this start? What was his motivation? He didn't need to do this.

10:22 And I think it was, I think somebody in the family, I think there's somebody else involved and I think he's found out, he was so slow to find out that he decided to take the bullet. You know, instead of having like his maybe his favorite son or who knows and I don't I think what you have go with your theory is interesting and I think there's a possibility something like that would show up I I don't I think there's more to this story than just made off and the fact of the matter is if you talk to anybody who's looked at any of his statements and it was a very Complicated system because he sent out these very elaborate statements that somebody had to produce. I mean he wasn't a computer guy Let's face it. He's 70

11:01 Not that 70 year old people don't know about computers. He was the 70 year old guy who was chairman and co-founder of NASDAQ, which is a complete computerized trading system. I mean, it's not like he didn't have his connections. When NASDAQ was founded, it wasn't that computerized. Oh really? I thought it was always a computerized system. I think there was a... I think... well, I mean, that's great. Great. But John, just if you connect these dots... Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know where you're headed with this. It's the, you know, the guys are trying to enslave all mankind and they're gonna do it through some... this through the IMF. Oh, you are so the first to go. When the minute that train rolls in, they're putting their ass... You're the first to go. No, no, no, no, they're gonna pick up the feeble-minded and the weak who are going to be,

11:47 Oh yeah, well it was your son made off. Yeah, come on John, come over here. We're going to take you to a happy place. The IFC will be, it's just like the International Criminal Court. You know, this has incredible power over world leaders. Yeah, what power do they have over Bush? No, you'll recall that the United States said quite clearly if the International Criminal Court ever tries to take an American government official to court that then America will invade the Netherlands. Which is like, you only need one Apache and a couple of guys on motorbikes and you're done. But that they will invade The Hague and the International Criminal Court. That's how serious this court is. Well, I think we've taken the right position on it then.

12:42 You think it's a bad thing that we were negative against this kind of world crap? I think yeah, but we work alongside others prosecuting people there yet we don't want to hold our own leaders to the same standards so that is wrong. Of course it's a scam, of course it's a scam. But so is this IFC, but when you put the bankers in charge of being the law then it's all over Johnny boy. You know I'm gonna I'm writing the date down on this prediction. Okay, let's get this instead of talking in these generalities I have five links to this international fine. I love it Tell me when you think that this announcement of the International Financial Court will take place is yeah, I

13:25 It'll either be before the sentencing... By the way, is this going to be the same as your prediction about the Flying Saucers landing that remember that last September? No, I think this one will be closer to my prediction of the Dow Jones which came within six days of being exactly on the money. So let's just stick with financial versus UFO. I've been pretty good in my financial predictions. Yeah, yeah. Anywhere between now and And the sentencing date, which is June 10th I think, or on the announcement of the sentencing. So if the judge says, I need another three months, then that date has to move up. I've written it down. It's between now and the actual sentencing of Madoff, the International Financial Court will be announced. Yes, will be announced and will be in play. And they will be taking names. Yes. And we will bow down to them. Not me. You just wait.

CHAPTER 04 / 23 Discussion

Future of Journalism, Media Stock Decline, Independent Reporting

The decline of traditional news organizations is examined as media stocks plummet and companies lose significant revenue. There is concern that the loss of professional investigative reporting will leave the public uninformed, despite the rise of blogging. The hosts discuss the mindset of modern journalists who are increasingly moving toward independent platforms and away from traditional editorial structures.

journalism· media stocks· blogging· daily mail· financial times· independent media

14:18 You just go, okay, I got it. I gotta say man, I'm really worried. I was looking, I'm following this story about the International Financial Court and I'm seeing some really good reporting going on. You know, mainstream reporting. Obviously, this shit ain't getting anywhere. You know, it's like, just like you, like, whatever, it's probably, let's find out about his son. Maybe he's having an affair with Amy Weinstein. Weintraub. But there's some really good reporting being done. I got a lot of this from the AM Law Daily, so it's like a law blog, but there's also some good mainstream reporting. And I'm so worried that with these news, particularly newspapers, you look at the Daily Mail, good, bad or indifferent, they are doing reporting here in the UK. The Financial Times is reporting, New York Times is reporting.

15:14 But with the way everything's going and you look at all the media stocks, not just radio, but magazines, newspapers, they're all down around a buck. These companies are losing money hand over foot, we've been talking about it. So what happens? I mean, just like You know, just like so many other things where technology has changed, like the music industry, you know, music industry drying up and it's going away and there's a new form with a lot less money involved re-emerging. And that's just the way it'll kind of go. It's a little more distributed, I think. What happens when the news organizations just fail? How do we... because, you know, all this blogging and even this show is great, but, you know, if we don't have this actual reporting being done, we wouldn't know shit.

15:57 So what do we do? How do we save? No, there's got to be a way. How do we save? We're doomed. In fact, this show is one of the last bastions of this sort. There's a buzzkill. And we're dealing, we're digging deep. I mean, you mentioned just a second ago, you said, well, there's good reporting by this. And the first thing you mentioned was some guy's blog. Was he getting it from somebody else or did he have this information himself? I don't know. You know, the thing about it's going to happen is obvious is one of the things is you got a bunch of people that are trained reporters and they like doing being reporters and they long since because of the price of printing and the price of paper and all the fact

16:34 The fact of the matter is that everybody's been making more money in this business except the writers. So the writers have gotten their mindset, most journalists, if you ever go to one of these events... Not just writers but actual journalists, people who get on a plane and go somewhere and ask questions and have a pad of paper and a dusty hat. hang out with any of these people they have like as I've been you know you go to I there's the most depressing thing you've ever been to I'm talking about years ago you go and it'd be some event and somebody's birthday or somebody's anniversary so they go to all journalists they're all depressed they're all depressed and they don't make any money

17:09 They've already gotten themselves into the mindset of starvation and so they're all just going to go off into blogging and they're going to keep reporting and they're going to argue for the bloggers having certain rights. I mean, many of them have become early bloggers. They were journalists and then they became bloggers and they really liked the idea of not having an editor. Yeah, but they didn't like the idea of not making any money. They apparently have gotten their minds stabilized on the possibility of not making or making very little money, but they're going to keep doing what they're doing because they actually, to be honest, and I think this is true with a lot of different businesses, I think musicians are the same way, they just like doing it. I mean most musicians aren't in it for the money, they're in it for the girls and the fact that they like to play music. Yeah, and that's why we do this show. We're in it for the hookers.

17:57 We don't have any hookers. I know we got like 99% male audience. Exactly. Only the males can figure out how to get a stream to work. There we go. Okay, let's wait for the women. You know, we actually have about, I think my blog has about 27-28% female readers, which is high because into tech generally speaking you have about a 90% male, 95% male, 5% female and generally I mean that would be like the PC Magazine audience. But when the internet came along women were actually at some point it's slightly like 51% 49 women although they were mostly you know looking at horoscopes.

CHAPTER 05 / 23 Discussion

Building an Independent News Agency, Investigative Journalism Costs

The feasibility of creating a user-supported news organization is explored, with cost estimates ranging from $45,000 to $100,000 per reporter annually. The model would prioritize decentralized operations over expensive downtown offices to maximize investigative budgets. References are made to the reputations of the Drudge Report and Huffington Post as successful examples of non-traditional media influence.

investigative journalism· news organization· budget· drudge report· huffington post

18:43 What would it take if we were to build our little news organization, which is essentially what the library might turn into. How much money on an annual basis to pay people, you know, first of all you gotta pay expenses for people to do real investigative journalism. I'm not really interested in I would much rather have one story a week like this IFC thing that you can really delve into and watch what's going on and pay someone to follow with that and actually do it and report on it and bring out this news. Well, I'll tell you what, it essentially costs, not including benefits, it essentially costs between $45,000 and $60,000 a year for the person.

19:31 You might be able to low ball it, I don't know. And then you have to assume that the expenses will be the equivalent amount of money. Now one of the things that I've never seen implemented in publishing or in most businesses is to have somebody get an assignment and then give them an expense account that is a fixed sum that they have to maximize. You know, people always go, they go float around. I'm going to New York, I'll be back. And then they come in with a bunch of receipts and you have to pay them for that. As opposed to giving them a yearly budget of say $20,000 that they can spend on travel or motels, hotels. So a real news organization, let's just say it costs a hundred grand a person with benefits.

20:20 including probably expenses for some of these. Yeah, with the benefits expenses, just to actually operate. A lot of people can do... you can do so much just from a fixed location online. Right, but you want to cut them loose. People are better off... Here's one of the things that needs to be done with modern news organizations. They've got to get away from the centralized thing. You know, where you have an office... the overhead of an office in downtown San Francisco is enormous. Killing them, absolutely. So if we had anywhere from $500,000 to a million dollars annual budget, we could actually run a little news agency that could bring a mixture of

21:02 Well, really a mixture of forms of media, you know, and stuff like this show, but it could be, you know, a blog and it could be a chat. And the thing is, you have to, you really have to have a reputation. That's all that it is. Because bloggers don't, you know, they get no rep. You know, I think Huffington Post has gotten to a level where it has a reputation. What's the, what's the other guy who does his ugly one page news? that all of Washington... Drudge. Drudge, yeah. Drudge Report, you know, has a reputation. But, you know, I think it would be possible. And I think it could be user-supported. It doesn't have to be a commercial enterprise, just as long as everyone can eat.

21:45 Yeah, I think it's possible. Okay, just something to stick in the back of your head. Well, I mean it would take us years and years before we get to that budget level. But I mean based on the fact... Says you, says you, says you. I'm just saying, I mean I suppose with some publicity and some other things we might do something, but we're not doing that at the moment. And then these guys aren't dead yet. I mean, you know, there's a New York Times will be around for a while, The Washington Post will be around for a while, The Washington Times will be around for a while because it's funded by a religious guy in Korea. That's what we need. That's what we need. That's what we need. We need a religious guy. Not from Korea. We need a kind of a religious guy. Yeah, that's what we need. We need like a religious guy. Got that one past him. No, I heard it. Don't worry. So then we just, you know, maybe we just do a little prayer at the beginning of the show. Have some at the top of the website, you know. I'm thinking about it, man. I'm just thinking about it.

22:40 I am. All right, well think about it. Anyway, so one of the things is like nobody has a modern, you know, there's no modern way of doing this. I mean, there's still the people they want the offices and the editors, editor after editor. Yeah, that's bullshit. That's exactly what we don't want. Between you and I, we know what news is important. We know what to promote to the homepage. You know, a show like this, we'd highlight all of the articles and, you know, it could really work. I'm just saying I would quit my job if I thought we had half a chance. 49% chance even, I'd quit my job and I'd do it full time. Alright. Alright, I got some awesome news from Gitmo Nation East today which just tickled me to death. You're aware of the Eurovision Song Contest, John?

CHAPTER 06 / 23 Discussion

Eurovision Song Contest, Georgia Entry Rejected for Putin Lyrics

The 2009 Eurovision Song Contest faces controversy as Georgia's entry, "We Don't Want Put In," is rejected for its perceived political attack on Russian leader Vladimir Putin. The song features a 1970s disco vibe and lyrics that the European Broadcasting Union deemed a violation of contest rules regarding political content. Georgia refused to change the lyrics, leading to their withdrawal from the event.

eurovision· georgia· vladimir putin· political songs· european broadcasting union

23:34 Oh yes. The Eurovision Song Contest has been going for many, many years and it's very interesting. I don't want to get into the whole workings of the group because you don't actually have to be a member of Europe to be in it, but it's the European Broadcasting Union. And the way it works is every country has their own local elections, their national elections, they choose it and it's about the best song, not about the best group or hottest chick, although of course ever since they moved from professional panels to text message voting and phone line voting it's now become who is the hottest as well as very political, you'll see a lot of eastern or old or new European states I'm supposed to say voting for each other. Once you take it into the public then it's like American Idol, it's like the best person never really wins.

24:23 So right now we're winding up the national elections in every single country and Georgia, Georgia... Oh yeah, I know this story. This is a good one. Yeah, Georgia's entry. Now you remember Georgia cowardly attacked Russia and said that Russia attacked them. We exposed that on this very program when that took place about a year ago I think with the crazy Shakersville dude. Their entry was rejected based upon content and I have the recording and when they played it last night, I wet myself. The title of the song is We Don't Want Putin, which of course when you listen to it being sung is We Don't Want Putin. And they even say, and I have the video which is in the show notes, there's a link in the show notes,

25:14 They're even they say we just want to shoot him and then they point like a finger gun to their head and they wonder why it was rejected Let me play a little bit of this song. It's absolutely hilarious Takes a second to get to the chorus here in the hook. It's a very 70s 80s disco vibe. I like it It's kind of like a George Michael beat actually Bet you I could mix it with George Michael I'm gonna try to shoot him George was it Stephanie and 3G we don't want to put in oh

26:13 Which I guys I looked at this video and the guys got a one of these guys got like a Woody Allen Lord another way of that that that big nose mustache glasses look like the Groucho Marx. They have a glued on mustache. I mean the whole thing looks like they're incognito It's a good tune dude, it's totally retro It's actually too retro. They should have kicked it off for that reason alone. I thought that was so funny. So they're not going to change the lyrics, so they're politicizing it, which I think is good. Finally, they're politicizing this event again. It's been way too long. Yeah, it gives us something to talk about. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was pretty funny.

CHAPTER 07 / 23 Discussion

FBI Raid on DC CTO Office, Bribery Arrests

The FBI raided the office of the Washington D.C. Chief Technology Officer, an office recently vacated by Obama appointee Vivek Kundra. Two men, Yusuf Akar and Sushil Bansal, were arrested on bribery charges related to technology contracts worth $350,000. The investigation focuses on procurement irregularities and illegal kickbacks within the city's technology department.

fbi raid· vivek kundra· yusuf akar· sushil bansal· bribery· washington dc

26:56 So there's been a bunch of, oh by the way let me just give you this before I go on my other ideas here. FBI raids office of DCCTO Obama appointee. I'm going to read this, this is from Politico. Just drop that link in the chat man. Oh good idea. Just copy paste or you could do an ad file. Copy paste, hmm. Yeah, if you have an iPhone you don't know what that is but... Anyway, so this is today this raid. This was breaking news as of today. It was actually Last night. Yes on the 12th and it's obviously breaking So let me just read a couple sentences the search of the office at one judiciary is part of an ongoing investigation Said when they raid your office and as part of an ongoing investigation There's something going on said a spokeswoman for the FBI's DC field office Lindsay got win and

27:48 She said two men, Yusuf Akar and Sashil Bansal, had been arrested. Akar is an information security officer who was also, according to the online request for proposals, responsible for contracting Bansal, the other guy. He's listed as the city's procurement website as the CEO of Advanced Integrated Technologies Corporation, which was awarded two technology contracts last year worth a total of $350,000. And the Washington Post and WTOP radio reports of them are being held on bribery charges. Wow. And not a day goes by. A lot of people sending me this link about JSOC. Anyone clue you in on that? No. JSOC, which stands for the Joint Special Operations Command.

CHAPTER 08 / 23 Discussion

Seymour Hersh Claims, JSOC Assassination Teams, Cheney Allegations

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh alleged in a recent speech that the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) operated as a private assassination wing reporting directly to Vice President Dick Cheney. Hersh claimed these operations occurred without legal authority and involved domestic activities against perceived enemies of the state. The hosts discuss the lack of mainstream follow-up on these significant allegations.

seymour hersh· jsoc· dick cheney· cia· assassination· domestic surveillance

28:43 Just speaking of FBI and CIA, apparently Seymour Hersh, I'm sure you know who he is. Yeah, the writer. Yeah. So he gave a speech last night in, I think it was DC. And so here's a direct quote from him. After 9-11, I haven't written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought would be enemies of the state without any legal authority for it. They were called the Joint Special Operations Command, reported directly to Cheney, and they were out killing people. And Seymour Hersh really goes into some detail. Who did they kill?

29:25 I don't know, we'll find out. Probably all those people that were close to Clinton. The Clinton body count. Well yeah, maybe you mean that guy that was the Arkansas guy. Yeah, who shot himself twice. Shot himself twice. And there was another death, another... There were a couple of them, man. Yeah, we were documenting these for a while. Then there were just too many of them, so we gave up. This is why we need to start a proper news agency, so we can document these. So somebody can follow up. Follow up on stuff, damn it. So Hirsch claimed... Well, Hirsch is a little nutty, but Hirsch claimed... Of course, of course. Thank God he's a little nutty, so we can be minimalized, marginalized.

30:06 He's a little nutty. But, you know, he's entertaining. You should have a show then on our network if he's a little entertaining. He qualifies. Phone always rings at this hour. Hold on a second. Well, anyway, go finish the story. Well, no, I mean you've got to read through the whole thing, but he's basically saying that there was a special ops assassination team that reported directly to Cheney that was in function during his eight years in the White House. You know, this is the kind of stuff, you know, yes, I should follow up and dig deeper, but the good news is a lot of that stuff happens automatically. You know, people start to dig into it. They hear our show, they start digging in.

CHAPTER 09 / 23 Discussion

Obama Signs Omnibus Spending Bill, Earmarks Controversy

President Obama signed a half-trillion-dollar omnibus spending bill containing nearly 9,000 earmarks, despite calling it an "imperfect bill." Press Secretary Robert Gibbs admitted the President did not read the entire document before signing it. The discussion includes Congressman Ron Paul's perspective that earmarks are a necessary tool for specific transparency in government appropriations.

barack obama· omnibus bill· earmarks· ron paul· robert gibbs

30:52 Unfortunately no one dug into the omnibus spending bill which passed silently. No big, gee, no big press conference for that one. Well, Obama did have some sort of a press conference where he regretted having to sign it. Yeah, the imperfect bill is what he called it. It's imperfect. But this once and for all ends all the crap from the past. You know, half a trillion dollars worth goes by just, you know, oh it's not perfect. He didn't read it either. Um, what's his name? Who's the press secretary? Gibbs. Robert Gibbs. Gibbs. He actually said, he said in the, and it just blows me away. And he says, well, you know, obviously the president didn't read the whole thing. Well, he hasn't got time. He's too busy at the basketball games. But then why should he sign anything? Isn't that kind of the deal? It's like, if someone gives me something to sign at our little company, you know, I read it. I make sure if I don't understand that I ask questions.

31:55 Maybe ask questions like should I sign this he did his overlords said yes sign it you must sign it Why are you making fun of that man? I? Hear that where's that the train that always toots its horn around around noon He did he did veto five. He did veto five line items saying they were unconstitutional Oh, he didn't read it. That's the reason. He didn't read it. The courts decide. When is he the courts? He doesn't decide whether something's unconstitutional. Let the courts do that. Yeah, well, you should speak a little louder because it's too late for that. Done. Signed, sealed, delivered. I'm yours. Nine thousand earmarks.

32:41 Which I thought actually, Congressman Ron Paul said something the other day in the house which I thought was a brilliant remark and it really made me think for a second. He said, what we need is more earmarks and you have to parse that for a second. Then you know he went on to explain you it's very important because then the money is appropriated for very specific Goal, and it's written down if you don't then the money just stays in a big lump And it just passes through anyway, and it's not really appropriated. You know companies like Department of Education you know departments like Department of Education Get 40 or 50 billion and they can just kind of go spend it the way they want that he was saying we need more earmarks, but it was an interesting take

33:26 Well, you know this is like yeah, it is an interesting take and if you're gonna be earmark Driven you might as well just use that for everything. Yeah, and I think that people get confused the difference between pork ie money for projects that are lame and don't help the common good somehow or are questionable and Earmarks, so those have kind of been melded together But I have read probably Probably six or seven hundred of the of the nine thousand earmarks in the omnibus bill And yeah, it's it really is just closing every hole every promise that was made Everything that probably got people reelected to certain positions. It was just all neatly bundled up push through No big deal. No big press conference half a trillion dollars, but a bin. Well, there's nothing we can do about that I don't know what good it's gonna do anybody the omnibus bill

CHAPTER 10 / 23 Discussion

Market Manipulation Claims, Citigroup Leaks, S&P 666

The hosts suggest that recent market rallies were orchestrated through timed announcements from Ben Bernanke and leaked positive data from Citigroup. A specific observation is made regarding the S&P 500 bottoming out at 666, which some observers linked to the "mark of the beast" symbolism. This volatility is framed as a distraction from deeper financial structural issues.

stock market· citigroup· ben bernanke· s&p 500· mark of the beast

34:28 Or any of this stuff. I mean, I don't see any evidence that it's gonna have a positive effect Well, it was kind of fun watching Tuesday as it almost looked like a completely orchestrated event Hey man, let's move this market back up. Here's we're gonna do Bernanke you go on at 830 you go on early an hour before the markets open you say something really positive And then we leaked the numbers from Citigroup, which are really good. You're like you're doing a Jon Stewart bit here. But it's true! It's absolutely true! That's what happens.

35:04 Oops, and then we're gonna do this and then we'll do that. Come on Let's go over here and get the JSOC guys and kill someone you could see the minute chills The minute Madoff pled guilty with no, you know, no contest boom the market explodes, you know It's like yeah, we're not gonna get we're not gonna get fingered. Hey, we got at least until June 10th We got some time here. Let's boogie everybody We're not gonna put in So a friend of mine, Ernie Veritimos, had predicted this last plunge of the market better than you. He actually called the S&P 500 to be 666, which is what it bottomed out at, based on a bunch of math that he did. I'm going to send you the links to this. Really? Yeah. And he sends you the formula?

CHAPTER 11 / 23 Discussion

Worldfocus on PBS, Media Agenda Testing, China Human Rights

The PBS program "Worldfocus," produced by the Creative News Group, is analyzed as a potential vehicle for testing specific media agendas. The hosts critique the show's presentation style and its focus on human rights violations in China while ignoring domestic issues. They suggest that such programs often serve as amplifiers for specific policy shifts before they reach mainstream awareness.

worldfocus· pbs· creative news group· china· human rights· media propaganda

35:56 He has it blogged and he's got a bunch of links and I'll send those to you and you can put them in the show notes. It's actually quite interesting. But I always thought it was interesting that it came up at 666, the mark of the beast. It didn't go unnoticed. Believe me. It didn't go unnoticed. Did not go unnoticed. So the thing I'm looking into now is this operation which is kind of a news organization or a It's like a, I don't know what it is, but I consider them to be competition with our show actually. Oh, co-opetition perhaps? Co-opt-etition perhaps. Anyway, it's a show called World Focus, which is a news show done by, I can't remember the guy, I have to dig up the announcer is like this,

36:48 kind of a funny looking pinched faced guy that just is really not meant to be on television because he's not endearing by any means but he has the most amazing old-fashioned voice you know the real deep booming ballsy voice that you know these everybody wanted to have in broadcasting in the 60s and he's got which doesn't work now in today's market but he's you know they I guess it's nice to listen to if he was doing voiceover be great But anyway, it's called World Fork and it shows up on PBS stations, at least in the Bay Area. On the third, you know, we have now because of digital television, you have your main HD channel and then a couple of spin-off channels within the same frequency. And with our educational KQED here, we have KQED 1, 2, and 3. And this shows up in KQED 3, which is called World or something. It's a bunch of world news.

37:44 But it's fronted by a company called the Creative News Group out of New York. And I can't figure out what their agenda is, but it seems to be mixed. There's a, they had some woman on last night who was like, she looked like she should be the head sorority sister at the Tri-Delts. And you know what that type is. Anyone out there has been around these girls. But she was wearing this Chinese outfit and she was apparently, she's under the human rights, China thing, and they're trying to slam China for human rights.

38:22 well of course ignoring the human rights violations in our own country and which still is annoying I think really bugs the Chinese to know to intend to no end but anyway so that by figure out when I start watching this stuff and I think other people got there listening to us you should always look at everything as somehow %uh you know I am an amplifier for somebody's message where somebody's paying somebody to say something or or or there's something going on or it's a test market I'm always considering the possibility that something like this show is like testing ideas to see what the feet, what the pushback is in it. And so you look for an issue that crops up and you start to see if it starts to crop up elsewhere. And here's what it is, here's what it's going to be, at least from my interpretation of what I saw.

CHAPTER 12 / 23 Discussion

Cuba Trade Embargo, Tourism Development, Property Speculation

A prediction is made that the Obama administration will move to lift the trade embargo on Cuba within the next 18 months to open the country for American real estate developers. Media segments highlighting "fond feelings" for Americans among Cubans are interpreted as a propaganda campaign to prepare the public for this shift. The instability in Mexico is cited as a reason to establish Cuba as a safer alternative for American tourists.

cuba· barack obama· trade embargo· tourism· real estate· mexico

39:05 Cuba. I believe that Cuba is going to be a... Obama's going to lift the sanctions against Cuba. I think he got nothing out of the Florida Cubanians and he figures he doesn't care anymore because that's the only... these politicos down in Florida are the ones who have kept Cuba isolated. And I think he's going to lift the trade embargo, and I think it's going to be within the next year or two. And one of the funny things was in the special report that this guy did, they were going on and they had a camera in Cuba, and there was this little package, which is a series of little video clips put together specifically about fond feelings for Americans. And so they were talking to all these students, and they all had fond feelings for Americans, you know, to give us a warm and fuzzy feeling. A special relationship.

39:53 Yeah, and so what really cracked me up I mean seriously just I just I almost died laughing They said we love Americans because we love their music and we love their movies And then they and they said yeah, we do we love their music John Lennon the BG's No, I mean it was just like everybody these guys are naming were British and or Australian or some you know I mean there we did it here weren't mentioning any blues groups or anybody that would be really American your Elvis I mean nothing that's and you think Elvis would be in the mix as a driver was all cars but anyway we're all British I I think this is a salvo a test salvo that we're going to see you know you see what you know they test these things in some venue and I think this may be one of them

40:44 And next thing you know, you're going to start seeing Cuba in the, on 60 Minutes, Cuba, Cuba, Cuba. It's as though someone's given the word, look, we got to get the American public behind us lifting the trade embargo on Cuba because there's a lot of good land there to develop. We're set to do it. We've beaten them back. So the land's got to be dirt cheap. We can go in there, buy up the country because the Canadians are already doing that to some extent. We can't let them take over. And you watch, within the next 18 months, probably sooner than that, well it's within, I would suspect we're going to start seeing this Cuba thing change. So what do you think the strategy is behind that? What's the point? Is it just to... To buy the property. Just to buy the property, huh? Cheap property, the resort property, I mean it's going to be next to nothing. Yeah, you're right. You know, we're just the big developers that are itching to buy up Cuba.

41:38 IMF involved anywhere? Oh, well, obviously at some point they're gonna have to you know what's usually am we're gonna lift the thing was oh my god, you know Obama can play this one up. Oh my god We've let these people just suffer for no good reason It hasn't done it by the way, and this is true. It hasn't done any good now And we did we miss out on the Cuban cigars and well, you know, they've got that health care down there. I They did that we can learn something we could learn some about health care there you go So anyway, they're gonna lift this thing and they're gonna like all of a sudden Cuba is going to be then it's gonna be there We're gonna go into that, you know to give it another year and we're gonna then it'll go into the overdrive with the tourist thing Yeah, I was gonna say Cuba visit Cuba to tour, you know, look at what's going on in Cuba It's gonna be take over come one of them to Disneyland Latino. Oh

42:29 It's safer, and here's the kicker, it's safer than Mexico. Dude, right now, you don't want to be anywhere near Mexico. So they gotta have some place to send the tourists, and it's gonna be Cuba. This thing is just, this is a testing ground, this show. Very interesting. So I watch this show now, at least I'm thinking this. And this is video? Video or audio? Yeah, it's a video show on PBS here and there. Oh see, there you go, PBS, they're getting donations. Damn. Damn, we need more money. Well, you know, we do need more money now. We might as well jump in and don't forget to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Noagendalibrary.com. Did you have the link there? Yeah, go to Noagendalibrary.com. You think I jested you? No, I'm just saying. Noagendalibrary.com. I didn't know you could move an HTML file. I didn't know it was in you.

CHAPTER 13 / 23 Discussion

Michael Taylor Appointment, Monsanto Influence, Food Safety Policy

The appointment of Michael Taylor as a food safety advisor in the Obama administration is criticized due to his history as a Monsanto lobbyist and former FDA official who approved bovine growth hormone (rBGH). The hosts describe this as a "revolving door" between big agriculture and government regulators. They argue that Monsanto and Goldman Sachs effectively control key aspects of U.S. policy.

michael taylor· monsanto· fda· rbgh· food czar· goldman sachs

43:26 Hey, John Just say stop and I'll point a finger at you We'll talk about getting more money later. Yeah, so what else we got in the list more from the shadow puppet theater There were several announcements made in the past week. They're going really fast now because they have to fill, I think it's 70 spots that are still open in the administration. I was not aware but apparently the first 100 days is the period where the administration fills all those slots, which makes no sense to me. You know, if you know you're gonna win in November and you've been running a campaign for two years, I mean don't you kind of know who you want in?

44:14 So, you know... Too logical. Yeah, really. So this guy is going to be like the food czar in the White House. Michael Taylor is his name. And he was actually in charge of the FDA. He approved RBGH, the bovine growth hormone, which messed up our milk and our cows. He did this when he worked for Clinton. And of course, for the past couple years, where do you think he's been hanging out? Camp Obama? I don't know. He's a lobbyist? He's an attorney, actually. Oh wait, let me guess. Here it comes. Here it comes. Monsanto. Oh shit, I missed the cue. I was almost perfect. Yes. Monsanto.

45:08 Our food is going to be so... So basically our country is run by Goldman Sachs and Monsanto. And Monsanto, yes! Exactly. Well, you know, hey, whatever. You know, we'll give them a minute a day for a year, or a minute a show for a year. If they just pay us the money. $100,000 is not that much. No, not at all. And by the way, I calculated this, I said, well you know, what if they gave us $100,000, what would they be getting back besides the one minute of airtime all to themselves called, you know, the disinformation minute? You know, but they can say whatever they want. They can say we're jerks or they can do whatever. It's $5 a thousand. The CPM is very competitive with the major media. Yeah, I agree. It really is. And they, you know, they have an audience of skeptics that they can try to, you know, they got the one minute's a lot of time.

45:55 to sell yourself. But you know, I don't think these guys listened to the show. If they did, we'd have a check in the mail. I agree with you. So we need someone in sales to start with. That's our first 60 grand is someone in sales. There goes the money for Monsanto. We can get Arthur Daniels Midland to advertise and that's what always makes me laugh about those Sunday morning shows. They're all sponsored by Monsanto and ADM. It's like, how come we can't get some of that good stuff? We're gonna get objective news from these people. If we do it, we're gonna give them their own minute and we're gonna still just, you know, harp on them. Harp on them, yeah, exactly. You know, if they upped the ante a little bit, maybe we'd cut it back a shade. What do you think?

46:44 So there's some super duper you mean like real media. Oh gee That's right your disinformation moment We this is good information about this Michael Taylor guy. He's literally been a revolving door Monsanto Cargill Tyson's oh my god, just Tyson's oh yeah, oh yeah, and he's gonna be he's gonna be calling the shots on food total takeover by my son Monsanto total fucking takeover Wow. Unbelievable. So then one more, let me just complain a little bit more. By the way, how does this represent change and hope? Those are no longer tax deductible either, I'm told. Change and hope. I also spent some time this week looking into Baxter International because it's really irked me that now here we are a week further along in the timeline when Baxter International, a publicly listed company,

CHAPTER 14 / 23 Discussion

Baxter International Vaccine Scandal, H5N1 Contamination, Bird Flu

Baxter International is under scrutiny for accidentally distributing seasonal flu vaccines contaminated with the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus to 18 countries. The hosts discuss the impossibility of such an error in high-security bio-labs and speculate on the financial motives for creating a pandemic to sell stockpiled vaccines. Baxter's annual reports are cited, showing advance purchase agreements with the UK and other nations for pandemic vaccines.

baxter international· h5n1· bird flu· vaccine· clinical trials· world health organization

47:43 US publicly listed company with subsidiaries all around the world sent out flu vaccine mixed with the deadly proven deadly H5N1 bird flu virus was discovered. This is a story we need to follow, keep following up on. Yeah, so I've actually delved in a little bit deeper because it's angering. So just to set the stage for people who have never heard this story before and all the links are in the show notes. This company, Vaxxer International, which does a lot of different vaccines, sent out their standard flu vaccine, which also has a number by the way, it's H3 something or other.

48:20 But it was mixed with H5N1, known as bird flu. And they're saying it was accidental. This type of thing is never supposed to happen in a bio-level 3 security environment, but it did and was discovered, and I'll also do little air quotes, accidentally by one of the local distributors. It was sent to 18 countries, this tainted flu vaccine. Was it sent to the USA? I do not believe so, but here's where it gets... It was sent to the UK, I'm pretty sure, because... and here's the... I started looking into it. So Baxter International gets a couple billion a year from the US government to make flu vaccine. And they also cut a deal in 2007 with the UK government to stockpile this vaccine against bird flu. So, and I don't know if they're selling based upon the fact that they might

49:18 Have it or the you know, apparently they already have the vaccine because that's what the what's being stockpiled They do they run this the the actual Clinical trials is done by us by a subcontractor called Dine Corp a Dine port. Sorry Dyn PORT Dine port which is an LLC which was two years ago acquired by CSC And CSC is this huge company that basically does nothing but governmental programs. So their entire customer is the government. And there's not a single piece of information about Dynaport on their website other than that it's one of their subsidiary companies. They usually do IT stuff. So it's really shady how this is being put together. But then if you look at

50:14 The annual reports, so here, Dyneport vaccine company and Baxter International, this is from a year ago, received 201 million contract modification on top of their billion from the US Department of Health and Human Services for the development of Baxter cell culture seasonal and pandemic influenza candidate vaccines. And if you go look at the, and I've done the work for you, it's all going to be in the show notes, if you go look at the Annual report from the from Baxter this public company. You know they're just boasting about their clinical trials They're they're testing it on people now this vaccine for bird flu for human to human bird flu in clinical Phase three clinical trials, which I think it's when you start to test it on thousands of people John right um and it's it's unfathomable that our money

51:08 Which is being dished out by the federal government, is being mishandled by bungling idiots, because I'm just going to take them at their face value for a moment and say it was an accident, and that no one is reporting on the story. Well, I think no one reporting on the story is what's deplorable. But the problem you have here of course is the story looks like the following law and order scenario where a company has got, one of the things that happened recently is there is a, and I think within the next two or three years they'll probably have, the clinical trials they're looking for. But some researchers came up with, I think we talked about this, came up with a new model for attacking the flu virus, finding a different point of attack instead of the shell, which is always changing. So we have to have a shot every year. And they've discovered a way of doing a universal shot. You take the shot and you never get any flu ever, including bird flu. And this would kill the whole business

52:06 of this every year having all these shots and it would put a bunch of these companies out of business literally because they have the one shot now instead of the yearly money makers almost like Microsoft in there coming out with a new product and they can't do it anymore. So we know that's never going to happen, they're never going to bring that to market. Well, I mean this is what the battle is going to be whether we can get this other thing in there to beat down this other business but Assuming that let's say you're a company and you said, this is by the way again a screen scenario for a law and order. You're the evil company that knows this other thing's coming, it's going to ruin your business but your business is still going to be okay for the next three or four years so you got to get a couple of big paydays. So let's just infect everybody with bird flu because for one thing all this stockpile of the bird flu

52:57 bird flu vaccinations, they're going to be worth nothing unless we can find some reason to use them. Unless we can get some huge flu, yeah. Yeah, and bird flu doesn't seem to be cropping up anywhere, so let's just infect people and then give them the shot and we'll get a bunch of money and we'll get this stuff out of inventory. Now everybody's happy, except a few that die. From the annual report. Of backstory, 1918, an influenza pandemic killed as many as 100 million people worldwide. Most health experts predict that it's only a matter of time before another pandemic strikes. This is in publicly filed documents. While it is unknown what flu strain will cause the next pandemic, we hope it will be ours. Many suspect it could be the H5N1 avian flu virus that has killed millions of birds and more than 300 people, mostly in Asia. Avoid where prohibited by law. Over the last several years, experts fear the virus could begin to spread among human population, making the development of a vaccine a global priority.

53:56 In 2007, Baxter initiated a phase 3 clinical trial. So they've already done it, John, two years ago. Yeah. Of its candidate H5N1 vaccine. Anyway, down at the end, this is real, the money stuff. In 2007, Baxter entered into an agreement with the United Kingdom, giving the country the option to purchase pandemic influenza vaccine in the event of a pandemic. Baxter has similar advance purchase agreements with other countries. The company also has delivered several million doses of H5N1 vaccine to countries worldwide as part of stockpile agreements, so they've already delivered it. and is providing a multi-year donation of its pandemic influenza vaccine to the World Health Organization. Oh, how nice. You don't want to kill poor people. So, you're right, John. I think you're absolutely right. All it takes is, you know, now we just need to introduce the bird flu into the human-to-human variant and then we make a bundle. I say buy stock now while it lasts. Baxter International. BAX is their ticker symbol. Long on BAX.

55:03 Long this this their stock is still at 50 or 60. It's 50 bucks and it went up a buck 80 yesterday I mean these guys are in in anticipation of our news These guys are well, of course has been as high as 70, but then there's the crash but they weren't really horribly effect according to the FDA phase 3 studies are expanded controlled and uncontrolled trials What does that mean uncontrolled? I don't know. They are performed after preliminary evidence suggests effectiveness of the drug has been obtained in phase two and are intended to gather additional information about effectiveness and safety that is needed to evaluate the overall benefit-risk relationship of the drug. So they've already done phase three, they must be into phase four. Yeah, phase four is infecting the public. And then cashing in. Phase five, hook it!

CHAPTER 15 / 23 Discussion

HPV Vaccine Controversy, Dutch Resistance, Pharmaceutical Corruption

The rollout of the HPV vaccine in the Netherlands saw a significantly lower participation rate than expected due to public skepticism and reports of adverse reactions. Adam Curry recounts his experience discussing this on Dutch radio, which he claims contributed to his departure from the station. The segment highlights the high cost of the vaccine and the perceived collusion between pharmaceutical companies and government health officials.

hpv vaccine· gardasil· netherlands· big pharma· medical ethics

55:55 Limos and all my money in a brown paper bag and so I there's I put a ton of of links in just because it's This whole big pharma thing is just like big ag, you know, we've been completely taken over by all the doctors, they're all taking money from big pharmaceuticals. It was kind of fun to see how in the Netherlands the HPV vaccination program... Oh yeah, you're one of your pet peeves. Yeah, so this was already halted in Spain and there's been thousands of girls who have had severe reaction to it, including

56:36 Paralysis, several, you know, hundreds worldwide have died from the inoculation. In the Netherlands, I actually started a lot of this back on my radio show before they booted me off for exposing them. Uh... Oh, that's right. Let's go over that again before you get to the story. You had a radio show, because you talked about this last year. That radio station just got taken off the air yesterday. Their licenses have been revoked. They took them off the air. You had a show on this station and you, of course, they think, they claim that you, they fired you because you were... No, no, no. No one fired me. No one fired me. They gave me the option of doing... Shooting yourself or quitting. They gave me the option. Hey everybody, how you doing? It's Adam Curie.

57:20 Yeah! Woo-hoo! Yeah! Let's play some more Amy Winestein! Yeah! Wine-tropy baby! The option of doing that kind of show, or really the predecessor to this... Well you started... we started this show before you started that gig. Are you sure? No, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. So you just took, but you took that, you were really focused on the Netherlands, the Holland. Netherlands and Europe. Yeah. And so, and I started exposing a lot of stories. Well, you did the thing, you know, you started going after the, the, uh, secretary general of justice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect? Well, you can't do that. I am Adam Curry, you know,

58:02 Yeah, well I think you're gonna get, you know, one of these days you do this. I mean we can do it on the podcast because everyone, you know, they don't, no one knows what the numbers are. There could be nobody listening. It's a marginalized business. I mean, oh yeah, well that's just two guys, you know, talking shit. They don't have hundreds of thousands of listeners. No, they don't have anyone actually listening or redistributing the information or saving it in the library. Yeah, so we're safe until they discover How powerful we actually are. You're right. Oh, we're so powerful. So, uh, anyway, let me let me get to the story. I don't know what the fuck I was going to talk about. Yeah, well, I'm just seeing how strong the story was in your brain.

58:41 You've lost it. But where was I going with that? Oh, I know, it was the vaccination. So I started that vaccination talk, which they didn't like either. And that really garnered a lot of speed because the Dutch people are very vigilant. When they think something's wrong and they've finally figured it out and they're going for it, man, they go for it. Just look at some of the stories about Dutch resistance during the Second World War. It's normal people resisting in abnormal, unbelievably heroic ways. And so they expected a 70%

59:17 rate of girls showing up and they only got like a 40% rate of girls showing up and man they turned on the spigot. They had politicians going on television saying this is so safe you know oh it's some bullshit internet stories and it was I was sitting there with my mouth open John like oh my god they're really just on television in a serious news talk program who of course completely in on it there's no way or just so stupid that They don't question anything and they got a whole roundtable the mayor of Amsterdam. They got a politician from from Parliament You know, they've got the guy who's in charge of the clinical whatever gurus are and they're all just and you know Not like oh no, you know, this is perfectly safe. There's no truth that that any girls have ever been harmed by this Oh that was actually from the just from the jab itself that they might have had a little bit of a

1:00:11 counter-reaction just unbelievable what's going on meanwhile this is being debunked left and right every you know people are on the tons of websites where you've got doctors saying well you know you know you don't really have to die from the virus you know the virus doesn't make cancer there's all these all these different very scientific points of view that are contrarian to what they're trying to do there but you know I guess the point is it's three or four hundred dollars for this shot Wow. Yeah, it's very expensive. And you know, it's pre-sold. It's pre-sold to the government. The government takes the deal. The pharma company gets... The government must be getting a piece of the action. This sounds like a corrupt deal. Well, the people who sign it, yeah. The people who say, yeah, we'll sign this into law, make it mandatory or put it into the health care package. They're of course on the take, just like the whole industry. And by the way, I don't think you can operate a doctor's office without that type of support from pharma. And if you try to, they probably send the goons on you.

CHAPTER 16 / 23 Discussion

Climate Change Denial, Mental Disorder Classification, Eco-Psychology

A new movement among "eco-psychologists" at the University of West England suggests that denying man-made climate change should be classified as a mental disorder. The hosts criticize the use of "bogus exactitude" in rising sea level predictions and the branding of skeptics as "climate creationists." They argue this is an attempt to marginalize dissent by pathologizing contrary scientific or political views.

climate change· eco-psychology· mental health· the guardian· global warming

1:01:11 Or that JSOC or whatever it is. That's exactly it. We got a message from Chaney. The big man. The big man says, by the way, just staying on clinical and doctor stuff, the new move which will affect both of us, the new meme is that climate denial is now a mental disorder. You haven't received any of these notes? No, but I'm sure I'll probably have a knock. Knock wood, yeah. No, I'm hearing the gendarme showing up. So I noticed that on this show I was talking about and elsewhere, there's another feeler I think they're going out with. They're going to try to see if the public's going to buy into this. That all of a sudden, this is the other meme that relates to what you're talking about, which is that it looks like the oceans are going to rise faster

1:02:05 than they anticipated. They were expecting it to rise 19 points, 19 point, by the way, they have it exactly. It's not 19, 20, 21, 19.7. When you put this type of exactitude, by the way, which is impossible to even calculate, 19.7, not 19, 19.7 inches within the next 100 years or the next 50 years or the next whatever. Now it's good. They've changed it all the calculations are different and now it's going to rise 39.3 point 37.3. Yeah, 39.3. See when you start seeing this I'm telling everybody out there when you start seeing this sort of bogus exactitude something's wrong lies damn lies and statistics I think is

1:03:01 Anyway, so now it's now it's gonna be almost four feet and that means we're all doomed according to the Guardian people who? deny climate change Should no longer double others. I have a couple links should no longer be that's going to no longer be compared to Holocaust deniers That was the first name we got but consigned to even more outer darkness by branding them as climate creationists the dirtiest word they know meanwhile At the University of West England in Bristol this weekend, a conference of eco-psychologists led by a professor are solemnly... Eco-psychologists? Led by a professor are solemnly exploring the notion that climate change denial should be classified as a form of mental disorder. Wow! Boy, these guys are going for the big guns on this one. That's you and me, my friend. Well, you know.

CHAPTER 17 / 23 Discussion

Northern Ireland Violence, C-IRA, Lisbon Treaty

Recent killings of soldiers and a policeman in Northern Ireland are attributed to the "Continuity IRA" (C-IRA), sparking fears of renewed conflict. The hosts question if the violence is being leveraged to push the Lisbon Treaty through by creating a need for increased European security measures. They express specific concerns about the treaty's legal provisions regarding the use of force against protesters.

northern ireland· ira· lisbon treaty· european union· terrorism

1:03:57 There's a Guardian... You got the moniker crackpot already so then you can't do anything more. Can't hurt you anymore. So I've got all these links and in the Guardian they did the royal flush and these playing cards of climate deniers and who are the idiots. You know like Klaus, the right-wing president of the Czech Republic. He's mentally disturbed. Sammy Wilson, Northern Ireland Environment Minister. Hey, I want to talk about Northern Ireland for a moment. Yeah, there's all kinds of crap going on there we don't know about here. Yeah, and I really didn't understand, so I took a look into what exactly is going on and just in a nutshell, if you always wondered what the Northern Ireland issue was about, Northern Ireland wanted to unionize, be its own deal. And so the unionist who

1:04:55 who want this after all kinds of struggle and forget all the history and I'm sure I'm not getting it right. They made a deal with the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom said, okay, Ireland you can go be your own deal, your own country, but we're going to take Northern Ireland because in the north are people who are loyal to the Queen and it's like 30 counties. So there's six counties up in Northern Ireland, predominantly Protestant. I think I'm saying that right. who will belong to the United Kingdom. And because most of the people not in the North are Catholic, there was kind of a religious aspect to it. It was pretty much if you're a Protestant, then you're not a Unionist. And so that's where you had this IRA and people were basically fighting for many, many years, decades, killing each other, killing their children. And it all settled down. You know, they and I've been watching many, many news reports after this, after two soldiers were killed

1:05:50 and another policeman was shot a day later by professional assassins it appears. More interesting is that the police at the checkpoint and at the army barracks as well as the other incident that took place no one fired back which I find amazing you know like 80 bullets being riddled into these poor kids two kids who were being shipped off to Afghanistan And no one shot back and and I'm just wondering are they maybe trying to start some shit and they being the evil shadow uber lords trying to start some shit so that they can ram this Lisbon Treaty through oh That's a good hookup. You know what I'm saying like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no I was wondering about this thing myself I did it and there's this thing that keeps showing when I was watching this again on the way I think this was on a world news focus again that

1:06:45 thing I talked about earlier. I was watching this story and they kept, one of the things they kept doing is they kept showing videos of the new logo which isn't IRA anymore, it's C-IRA. C-IRA, the continuous IRA. Right, and it has a picture of a guy holding an AK-47, so it looks very much like a stencil, then the stencil looks professionally designed and it looks to reflect, it looks as though it reflects like a Muslim style of militancy in terms of its image, which means that it's obviously going to be targeted as a terrorist thing. I mean, I don't know where these images, if this so-called CIA exists, whether they're going to be targeted as, you know, whether the whole thing is just designed to get this, maybe this treaty passed.

1:07:36 or who knows but in the whole thing may be phony yeah I mean I'm not saying it's impossible it's a good plot for a cheap movie And just to respond to the chat room, I'm not against the European Union. I think most Europeans really like that we, even the money being the same, we kind of deal with and I think people like doing interstate commerce. But I have read through the Lisbon Treaty and I've read all of the protocol attachment documents. It's spread out and it's full of crap and it essentially makes it legal for you to be killed. You resist arrest. I mean there's a whole bunch of crap in there that we don't want so I'm against that part of the European Union yes I've got so much John so I just run through it and you stop yeah, yeah, yeah, you go go for it, okay? so

CHAPTER 18 / 23 Discussion

Alabama Shootings, Military Presence, Space Shuttle Delay

Following a mass shooting in Alabama where the gunman killed himself, reports surfaced of U.S. military troops appearing on local streets, raising constitutional concerns. Separately, the Space Shuttle launch was delayed again, officially due to a hydrogen leak, though the hosts suggest orbital debris from a "space war" is the true cause. A school shooting in Germany is also briefly noted as part of a week of high-profile violence.

alabama· school shooting· posse comitatus· space shuttle· orbital debris

1:08:26 I have some clips for the next show, by the way. Oh, you send them to me and then I can play them? Because one of the things that I've noticed as you're going through your notes is that there are, you know, we, as the reason that we beg for money is because we're going to be publicly funded. That's the only reason we can, we don't have to worry about anything if we can do that. So, Dvorak.org slash NA. Noagendalibrary.com. Okay, obviously we're going to go into competition here and see who gets the most links. But anyway, which is okay. Who's the manager in this new organization? Who's the chief marketing officer? This is a flat organization. We're Swedish and stuff. We don't have any manager. You and me, baby. We make each other coffee. So anyway, I've got a clip of some show they play on Link that is supposedly similar, they claim to be the alternative.

1:09:18 to the regular mainstream media and I'm telling you our contributions are skyrocketing when you hear this stuff so good just warning you for next week okay good so I'm just gonna run down some stuff okay and you say stop so of course we had a horrible level we had two shootings please pay no attention to anything else but these shootings horrible in Germany At least 10 people dead, most of them young girls at a school. And then of course Alabama, we had a guy go on a rampage. You know that the US military is now on the streets of Alabama. No I didn't. Yes, and I have several links. Wait a minute, hold on a second. They shot and killed the guy.

1:09:59 No, he killed himself. I'm sorry. He killed himself. So why do we have any military presence? Just to prove you guys dead. No, no, no, because now of course because of course this is already the discussion is coming up This is to get us to give up our guns That's why this is taking place or let's it's beat. Let's let me put it this way. It's being misused immediately So the troops are gonna go door-to-door and start taking away guns, but troops on the streets in Alabama. There's news everywhere that will show you pictures and that's not supposed to happen. I think that's... Yeah, I think it's in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. This is what George III used to do. Kind of illegal is what we call that. Space shuttle delayed? I told you that would happen.

1:10:46 Once again was supposed to launch yesterday. It's been delayed. They say because tell me that was gonna happen. Yes I did it was a totally was in context of the space war going on with the satellites And I told you that there's so much debris they cannot even launch the shuttle, so they're not launching again It's been delayed. They say because of some leak or whatever All right, don't make me go back and pull the pull the I don't want to listen to the show again So never mind. I'll take your word for it. We had another mishap a Plane taking off from LaGuardia had to make an emergency landing after I think the number two or number one engine went out it actually dropped bits on to Onto some homes in I guess Brooklyn, maybe Queens everyone landed safe a lot of Boeing problems

CHAPTER 19 / 23 Discussion

Boeing Aircraft Reliability, 747 Longevity, Pilot Sully Sullenberger

The reliability of modern Boeing aircraft is questioned following several mishaps, including an engine failure at LaGuardia and a crash in Amsterdam. John Dvorak shares an anecdote about flying on a 747-400, noting that pilots find the older models more reliable than newer "plastic" planes. Meanwhile, Captain "Sully" Sullenberger has reportedly signed a $3 million deal for two books, including a book of poetry.

boeing· 747-400· air safety· sully sullenberger· turkish airlines· aviation

1:11:34 More and more Boeing problems taking place and there's a huge order coming up from Air France KLM who are now trying to decide whether it will be Airbus or Boeing. They're talking about bring up an interesting story then so I'm coming back I was in Wisconsin at a group met as a bit educational Technology Association of teachers I was giving a speech in Madison, Wisconsin really good group of people so I come back I go to Chicago they take my connection back to San Francisco and and it's a 747 which I have not flown on for at least two years I haven't been on 747s for a long time and you know, it's just the seats are bigger. You know a model Do you know what model?

1:12:14 400. So the seats are bigger, it's got the big upstairs, it's got, you know, it's comfortable. I was in business. But first class is beautiful, business class is comfortable, there's a lot of galleys. And the plane, of course, is the best riding plane there ever has been built. Sheet metal and rivets, baby. It rocks. No plastic planes. Smooth as silk. And you know, you just feel comfortable in the thing. It's a wonderful. So I go back in the back and I talked to one of the stewardesses and I said, wow, this is why I have. What's this? Why are we why are we in the seven? And by the way, the plane was full. Really? There's maybe 10, 20 seats that were available out of five to about four hundred forty. I think it holds. She says, oh, I said, why are we in a 747? This is great. I said, they fly in this all the time because I've you know, I've seven thirty sevens are down for maintenance, right?

1:13:03 She says basically what she says, you know, they've been trying to get these things mothballed and put in the desert for years We only have about two or three left, but the other ones keep breaking down. Yep. I Yeah, we have to keep flying these as though it's it like you know we have to keep flying these because at least because they're Reliable at least they fly yeah, and at least they fly, but the other junkers apparently are you know you know and in for repairs all the time so I've been following all of the the professional pilot forums and a couple of things that are noticeable one is that We're seeing all kinds of issues with Boeing aircraft at least that you know that's what people are focusing on maybe but that that's coming to the top particularly this altimeter problem

1:13:44 This happens all the time. And by the way, it's not the reason for the crash. If that's really what happened, the altimeter failed, we did that. It's not the reason for the crash. Now they've come out with a directive towards the 777, which I said they should ground the entire fleet until they figured this out. This is the British Airways Boeing that landed short at Heathrow. And everyone survived but someone, you know, a couple broken legs here and there and it was a, you know, it was a very, very lucky situation. But same thing happened there. You know, a lot of this happens on finals where all of a sudden there was no thrust left. So it turns out, yeah, there might be something with the fuel overflow heating mechanism. Hey, everyone who has one of these Bowens, you should install that.

1:14:29 So thank you. Again, I think the fleet should have been grounded. They've got just tons and tons of issues and I might point out that several weeks after the Turkish Airlines crash at Schiphol, pilots are still arguing about what caused this crash. And it's mainly because no real information has been released. You know, no real data from the flight recorder, no transcripts from the cockpit voice recorder. And the lawsuits are just simmering. There's a lot going on there. A lot of shit that is just not coming to the top. And the kicker, the kicker, America's favorite pilot, Chelsea Sully-Sullenberger, has landed a two-book deal worth more than $3 million. I guess that's, there you go. There's your payout.

1:15:23 Exactly right. One book will be a biography, the second book will be a book of poems. Three million dollars! What? Yeah, a book of poems. Look, I'll do this for you guys, but I gotta do some poetry because I've always wanted to be a poet! That's hilarious. It's okay, I mean just read something before people are on you know listen to us live actually well that no agenda is going on the crew of the space station was evacuated or something due to debris just moments ago. Gee, yeah debris in the space where the war is taking place. That's exactly right. All right let me move along John because you know we want to keep

CHAPTER 20 / 23 Discussion

Financial War Rhetoric, Pornography Brain Damage Study

Warren Buffett and Jamie Dimon are criticized for using "war" and "9/11" metaphors to describe the financial crisis without identifying a specific enemy. In a separate news item, a San Antonio neurosurgeon claims that pornography addiction causes the frontal lobe of the brain to shrink. The hosts mock the study's findings and its comparison of pornography to cocaine and meth addiction.

warren buffett· jamie dimon· pornography· brain damage· san antonio

1:16:07 Time within check. I did watch the big CNBC interview of Warren Buffett which happened earlier this week. Oh, I missed that. Oh, it was fantastic. If this guy said financial Pearl Harbor one more time, I was going to turn Japanese. Unbelievable. And no one, no one, no one asked the question. If it really is a financial Pearl Harbor, Mr. Buffett, who's playing the role of the Japanese? No one asked the question. Jamie Dimon, who I think is the, this is the new up-and-coming man. Keep your eye on Jamie Dimon. He is worshipped. He's the, of course, the CEO of JP Morgan, who acquired Bear Stearns. Now he's doing all these big policy speeches. He says, literally, in front of

1:16:56 I think it was Senate or Congress, one of these summits in Washington. We are at war, a financial war. They keep talking about war. It is a financial 9-11. But why doesn't anyone call the enemy then? No one calls these guys on these statements. It's ridiculous. To use this type of language and not to Yeah, at war with who? Ourselves? With the bankers? Against who? The public? The public versus the bankers? What is this war? No, no, those guys are at war. We're just caught in the middle. We're collateral damage. Yeah, they are at war with each other. Yeah, that's what's going on. Porn addiction causes brain damage. How does that work?

1:17:43 Well, it was a study done in... Poke yourself at the magazine? Ouch! My head! Well, would you like to, uh... Do you want to hear the piece? It's a news piece from, uh... NBC in... Where the hell are these guys? Do I really have a choice? Well, you do. Oh, we can listen to just a little piece of it, just to listen to how funny it is. Because I want to hear it go. Right here in San Antonio found breaking a porn addiction could be as difficult as breaking a drug addiction. News 4 WOAI's Ryan O'Donnell talked to a neurosurgeon here who says watching porn is causing brain damage.

1:18:20 You know, this is of course we need to filter this so that we don't get brain damage. It's something that's typically done behind closed doors. But now a new study done here in San Antonio opens them to reveal watching pornography is as addictive as cocaine, meth and alcohol. You really want to hear the whole thing? Well this is interesting. Did you notice the interesting propaganda slip in there? It's as addictive as cocaine and alcohol. This is always it. San Antonio, Texas. Yeah, there's because there's always a bunch of temperance people lurking in the background and you can jump on this shit. Alcohol in here. And you got your brain damage. You got your cocaine. You got your porn. You got your alcohol. Yep.

1:19:05 As cocaine meth and alcohol meth we have a hijacking so to speak man that natural pleasure system in the brain The frontal lobe of the brain shrinks and people who are addicted to porn okay, did you? The frontal lobe of your brain shrinks if you're addicted to porn it sure Well, it makes sense, you know, something else is growing so it might make sense of something shrinking. As could you losing blood flow to the brain. Especially if you're me. ...in drug addicts and alcoholics. He says it affects a person's judgment causing them to be easily agitated and impulsive. I can't listen to it anymore.

CHAPTER 21 / 23 Discussion

AIG Counterparties, Global Currency Proposals, Kazakhstan

Bloomberg reports reveal that AIG bailout funds were funneled to major international banks, including Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and Societe Generale. Amidst the global financial instability, Kazakhstan has proposed a new world currency called the "Acmetal," while other groups advocate for a "Terra" trade reference currency. The hosts view these as attempts to move away from the U.S. dollar's dominance.

aig· bailout· goldman sachs· kazakhstan· acmetal· terra

1:19:50 because I have all those symptoms. This is what passes for news. That's news ladies and gentlemen. This by the way ladies and gentlemen is why you have to support this show at Dvorak.org slash NA. Noagendalibrary.com. This AIG thing is I'm just gonna rush through this one I have to really dwell on this too long, but now Bloomberg is really reporting the actual, you know, almost proof that AIG, you know, this is where the trillions, maybe hundreds of trillions of dollars are all holed up.

1:20:26 And this is where all, bailout after bailout, more money is going to have to go in this just to keep everything afloat, in particular European banks. There was another story that came out that AIG basically swindled, let's just call it swindled, half a trillion in the UK alone. In the last month, one trillion dollars has been taken out of the UK. Wow. It's over. What are these guys doing with all this money? Yeah, that's the real question. We have a bunch of people who have basically stolen the money. They have stolen all the money from the public. Just look at those yachts, man. Those yachts cost a lot of money. You know, you've got your two helicopters on. The yachts I don't have a problem with because it recycles the money. Because you have to buy the yacht, somebody has to make the yacht, there's got to be a big crew of people on the yacht. Well, okay, so in general I'm pretty sure that a lot of this money gets recycled, unless they put it into gold and stuff.

1:21:31 So it is coming back in a weird kind of way. Well I guess they're living it up on those boats. You think? How come we never get invited into these boats? They come into the bay all the time. I never get in here. Hey John, why don't you, I've liked you and I've been reading you or whatever because we're obviously in the wrong milieu here and it's like where's my invite to the yacht party? It's the dock side. I don't want to go out on the yacht. But you know, it's just like never happens. Well, that's because that's where the real business is done. We're completely out of this. This is ridiculous. There's no reason for that. That's where all the real business is done and of course we're not invited to that. Absolutely. Next. Next. Oh man, I have so much. Okay. Well, you can save some for Sunday if it has any legs.

1:22:25 A lot of this stuff is really important and even last week's show I'm like, oh man, there's all this stuff I didn't talk about and I put it all in because I just save all my links and I save it in the show notes but we would have to do a five hour show to literally get through everything. Kazakhstan has proposed a new world currency. I think land of Borat deserves some props for that and they have a name for it. Which is? It's the Acmatol. Oh yeah, that's gonna fly. Check it out. So you spell it A-C-M-E-T-A-L. A-C... Alpha Charlie Mike Echo Tango Alpha Lima. A combination of Acme, a Greek word meaning the peak or the best, and capital.

1:23:11 Akmatol. It sounds like something from the Roadrunner cartoon. That's why I laughed about it, it's like Acme Corp. Okay, you know that's got to be a nasty business. And then there's this other one that someone, the Terra? This is the trade reference currency, TRC. A new current currency privately issued by the TRC alliance with a built-in circulation incentive that could play a significant role in getting the world out of recession. Yeah, good luck. What's this? It's someone trying to start a new money system. There's lots of this out there. Huh. The Terra. That would sound kind of good as a... How many Terras you got? I got a Terra and I got a Firma. Yeah, and then we could have like, hey man, I got a Boulder at home. Or what you got on you? Just a couple pebbles. You got a Boulder at home, you've obviously been looking at a lot of porn. So, alright. One more. Only one? Okay, two more. Don't you have any notes?

CHAPTER 22 / 23 Discussion

Energy Identity, Carbon Footprints, Light Bulb Regulations

The concept of "energy identity" and tracking individual carbon footprints is discussed as a new form of social accountability. The hosts complain about the phase-out of incandescent light bulbs in favor of "mercury-filled" energy-efficient bulbs that often have automated shut-off features. They argue these regulations remove consumer choice and introduce environmental hazards under the guise of green policy.

energy identity· carbon footprint· light bulbs· mercury· philips

1:24:15 Why bother? Because maybe you have something different that I didn't touch on. No, no, I'm already spent. Let me look at my printout. The only thing I have left is a printout of the... So we keep promising ourselves we'll talk about Mexico. The avoiding mass extinctions engine. And as a platform that seeks to track the energy consumption of everything, the goal is to make energy consumption and carbon footprints open sourced so that we may become more responsible for them and hold others accountable as well. Gavin Stark spoke at ET Tech

1:24:52 about why we need to care about our energy identity. These are all buzzwords, energy identity, mass extinction engine, how to take ownership of our energy identity and the possible future scenarios we hope to avoid by embracing and reducing our consumption. Meanwhile these guys have those yachts Exactly, so there's this movement, and this is a speech giving in San Jose by some generic looking person who is one of those unisex looking guys You know it wouldn't take much. You know a dress boom girl You know I'm talking about and it's talking about this you know

1:25:38 We need to open source, so we all, you know, in other words you carry around a badge or something in your wallet that tells you what an energy hog you are. A downloadable badge. I'm disgusted by these things. We haven't got enough trouble. You know, so we just had the electricians here. and finishing up putting some lights and Patricia of course you can't buy normal light bulbs anymore and we do have a lot of lights particularly for chandeliers and so now you have to get these blasted energy efficient Al Gore mercury bombs and do you know that Patricia didn't look at what she bought she's just you know like whatever just buy something that looks like it might be might have a nice glow to it and kind of looks aesthetic which none of these

1:26:25 almost none of these energy-saving lamps filled with mercury have, but now we have one outside after a number of hours it shuts itself off automatically. Yeah? So what's wrong with that? I can't buy a light that will allow me to decide when the light is on or off. If you leave it on... What if you want one that shuts off automatically? I mean, I have bulbs. I want to mention this. There used to be these energy efficient bulbs before the fluorescent ones done by Philips. They had a very peculiar shape. I bought a bunch of them for this house when I first moved into it, which was like over 10 years ago. And these bulbs still work. But the key to them is that they turn themselves off after 20 minutes.

1:27:12 Yeah, but what's the point? I want an outside light to be on so you know so that when someone approaches there's a light Oh, yeah, I know the outside light if you want it on it should be on but that's why did you why did you buy that one? Because I think it's getting harder to buy ones that don't oh But does it have a little motion sensor so if somebody approaches? No no no no no no just after a while. It just decides to go out And there's another one we got that goes half speed it suddenly it goes from bright to dim Hmm, and this is just whatever she picked up. She was just trying to pick up regular light bulbs can't get him anymore Just can't get him. I don't have somebody ship you some 220 volts. Oh Yeah, maybe a problem If you're really just interested in we should just we don't have any real news because I had a jingle for a real news Don't you have a Britney Spears item or something that people? really Are interested in you know you thought you mentioned? I'm gonna try to do a Britney Spears story every time every show I

CHAPTER 23 / 23 Discussion

AIG Foreign Payouts, Wikipedia Neutrality, Show Outro

The show concludes with a final look at AIG's payouts to foreign banks and the perceived political bias of Wikipedia editors regarding Obama's biography and climate change. The hosts thank recent donors and encourage listeners to support the program through the No Agenda Library. They announce the next live stream for Sunday and sign off from London and Silicon Valley.

aig· wikipedia· barack obama· donations· no agenda library

1:28:15 And now, back to real news. You just sit there and Adam does all the work. These are your fans on this stupid thing. No, I think there's some JCD fans there. One. So here's the counterparties. As a matter of fact. CNN knows 15 of the AIG counterparties. So just to break it down one more time, just because it's so disgusting how they're taking our money and giving it. And it's my money too. I pay taxes in the United States.

1:29:08 So they have to pay out on these bogus insurance deals they did for these bogus non-existent financial products. So the hundred and what is 180 billion now that's gone into AIG? Ridiculous is some huge number. Gone to Societe Generale, French, Goldman Sachs of course, Merrill Lynch, now part of Bank of America, Deutsche Bank, Germany, Credit Agricole, Calion in France, UBS, Switzerland, Barclays, England, Coral Purchasing, Deutsche Zbank, Germany, Bank of Montreal, Canada, Rabobank, the Netherlands, Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of America, Wachovia and HSBC, another fine English institution. So that's how it works. Take your money.

1:29:59 And then give it to foreigners. It's okay, I'm not against helping out the foreigners, but maybe we should get the same credit we got in World War II. You know? Instead of hiding it. Well, I think the public isn't... You're hiding it not because we're looking for credit like we had in World War II. I'm just saying. You're hiding it because it's like, what? Yes. Is the real reason. Alright my friend, I think that's it. Other than I thought it was just kind of funny that Obama's wiki page, whenever someone puts something up about, which are just true facts about questions about his birthplace and his birth certificate, it's taken off immediately, within like a minute.

1:30:45 Yeah, no, the Wikipedia has politically oriented itself. I mean, the same thing happens on the site where insane people, apparently now they're categorized as insane, put up anything... Mentally insane. Mentally insane as opposed to physically, that put up anything about the global climate change debate at all. Yeah, any evidence you get banned from Wikipedia. Yeah, you get banned. So so that's part of a system systematic Well, you know, it's because you know, there's deniers and they do to equate this and I find it very abhorrent by the way to equate This with Holocaust deniers Is wrong is unbelievable to me and I think a signal that something is amiss

1:31:35 Think that's a fine Analysis of the world today John something is amiss. We need a look we need a jingle for that something is amiss in the morning Something is amiss could someone please make that jingle. That'd be great. Oh, thank God. I don't have to wait as long It's a shorter wait from Thursday to Sunday You find this length from Sunday to Thursday to be annoying. Yes, it's one day too long. I could do three shows a week, easy. We could do three shows a week but we don't have the money to do it and it's just not gonna happen. Because something's got to give, right? I mean if we're doing three shows a week then yeah, something really has to give. I mean I've already given up. Now it's a job. We can kind of do this, you know.

1:32:19 Twice a week is still a little more work than I like and you're not doing anything. You're just getting up All you have to do is breathe. I mean look at look at the job you're doing I'm like I'm like a punching bag for you. You know, I'm like a sparring partner Yes, you are. That's true. That's true So you're sparring away, you know, you're hitting a ball and I'm you know, that's like the tennis pro bouncing it back to you But I'm not really playing Whatever. It becomes a job and we probably need some staff to do it right because you know, you only take notes for so much stuff. It's just not going to happen for at least two years. But look at it this way. You can give your money to the globalists and have them distribute it and maybe there's a very, very small chance that some of your money will actually come back and help someone who's building a yacht.

1:33:08 Or you could donate it to the library and we'll put people to work. We'll put people on the payroll. Noagendalibrary.com, noagendadrop.com, and of course, noagendastream.com in the future, which I hope worked for everybody. I will next week or on Sunday mention, there was a number of people that donated $50 and $100. Thank you. And I will, we will mention them. Anyone who doesn't want to be mentioned, please, hopefully you're listening. Yeah, say, don't mention me. Tell us that you don't want to be mentioned. But I'm looking at the typical, I don't see anything here that, you know, people's names are somewhat generic. But you also have one, somebody,

1:33:55 Said it's $45 which I found peculiar, but okay doesn't matter probably what they could give and it's appreciated Yeah, that's good, but I just as a there's a there's some really odd numbers in here They're just some just like code. You know you can see you know my wife likes to do she she'll donate is six six six six dollars And then when it comes to when the check comes through she all that was to such you know she'll have the net 32 would be somebody else I don't know. I just think people do that hey, so we're gonna mention your names prominently yeah You know who you are and it's I got the list right here So we'll do that on Sunday and it's highly appreciated and we do appreciate all the help that you've all the people that have subscribed and donate the The research continues because there's something amiss. We'll talk to you again on Sunday I'm Adam Curry, and I'm John C. Dvorak here in northern Silicon Valley. We'll be back with no agenda