Episode 760 · Sunday, 27 September 2015

VAWG

Global regulators target internet anonymity under a new United Nations framework while the German automotive industry reels from a massive diesel emissions cheating scandal.

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The United Nations Broadband Commission, featuring testimony from Zoe Quinn, has released a report on Cyber Violence Against Women and Girls that critics argue redefines online speech as physical violence. The proposal calls for global internet service providers to enforce stricter terms of service and specialized cyber police units to monitor independent media. This push for centralized censorship arrives as the UN utilizes celebrity advocates like Shakira to humanize complex geopolitical agendas regarding the Syrian refugee crisis.

Volkswagen faces a catastrophic collapse of its 'Made in Germany' brand following the exposure of emissions-cheating software in 11 million diesel vehicles. While European policymakers previously championed diesel to reduce CO2, the resulting nitrogen oxide pollution has led Paris to announce a total engine ban by 2020. Simultaneously, President Xi Jinping concluded a high-profile U.S. visit marked by major tech deals with Microsoft and Cisco, even as the XcodeGhost malware compromised dozens of Apple iOS applications via infected development tools.

John Boehner stunned Washington with his resignation as Speaker of the House following a meeting with Pope Francis, clearing a path for Kevin McCarthy. Adam Curry reports from the road in Salt Lake City, detailing the mechanical strain of towing an Airstream through Teton Pass and the shifting demographics of Yellowstone National Park. The episode features a formal knighting ceremony for executive producers Sir Pablo the Squirrel and Zander Walachia under the value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 58 Discussion

Adam Curry Yellowstone Visit, Old Faithful Geyser Observations

Adam Curry describes his recent visit to Yellowstone National Park while traveling in his Airstream trailer. He details the unpredictable eruption schedule of the Old Faithful geyser, noting that it currently erupts every 45 to 90 minutes rather than on a fixed clockwork schedule. The account includes observations of local enthusiasts who track geyser activity and the scenic beauty of the changing autumn foliage.

adam curry· yellowstone national park· old faithful· geysers· airstream

00:00 Oh please, this just gets worse. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday September 27th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 760 This is no agenda Flying solo in the air stream of consciousness once again on I Love Blondie Tour broadcasting live from Salt Lake City, Utah. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm not in a trailer...I'm John C DeVore And you should be happy or not. You're in the trailer again! I am, solo... solo. Did you go to Yellowstone? I did. Tina the Keeper and I went to Yellowstone and lost all connectivity with the world for a glorious 48 hours. There's no connectivity at Yellowstone? Surprisingly when you get near Old Faithful there is a spot where all of a sudden there's some cell connectivity

01:02 Not enough to do a show with but yeah, pretty good. It was nice man it was nice up there Did you visit the hotel? The hotel? Yeah the famous Hotel What's famous hotel? The one that's in Yellowstone I don't know what hotel? I don't know I can't remember Don't ask me questions No, no no famous hotel. We saw Old Faithful that was nice Yeah It goes off and it were in everything about it reminded me of every cartoon I've seen about old fail faithful like the Flintstones or its very distinct When you see if you don't even know what it looks like and you see it going off because there's a bunch Of other geysers that go off oh yeah Like the the beehive guys are as good one And we without goes on every 10 hours

01:53 And we're... Dr. McNamara Yeah, and that's a big one. That's a big one. Dr. Justin Marchegiani So the thing about Old Faithful is it–no one knows when it's going to erupt. They only have estimated times I didn't–I thought it was like every 40 minutes exactly. Dr. Michael Ross It used to be very–it used to called Old Faithful–I know little of this because they went through a lot when I was kid and then I've been there recently but not that recently but it use to go off routinely every 1 hour and that's why it was called old faithful but people start throwing chairs down the hall Vandals didn't know about this. Yeah, well so it's throwing crap in there and peeing in it doing all this stuff And over time is just like the clockwork thing is over So it's not like anywhere from 45 minutes to and two hours

02:35 Yeah, it's 45 minutes to like an hour and 38 minutes And so what's cool is there's this observation deck right off of the old faithful Lodge or whatever the hell it is. Maybe that's the hotel you're talking about So we sat there just drinking cocktails waiting for this thing to blow that was pretty nice like, okay The thing again I was trying to get at what about old faithful is that if you if you're just randomly looking at geysers And then you see this one it is so distinctive looking yes because there's a little breeze It comes from a certain angle and sprays. Yeah, it's pretty. It just looks like old faith does it does oh?

03:15 Some of these other ones are just boom, they look like anything. So there was three guys sitting at the bar old guys...locals apparently whose only job is to go sit there and say yeah we think it'll be 2 37 today but hang around because you want to see the bee hive it only goes off every 10 hours and it will go off one minute after Old Faithful about 40 minutes Two old coops Three 40 minutes after Old Faithful when we're like, okay we're giving up on the beehive. But here's something of note this in- of course is the perfect time right now The trees changing color everything changing color spectacular just spectacular how beautiful everything was or is

CHAPTER 02 / 58 Discussion

Chinese Tourism Surge, Yellowstone National Park Demographics

Yellowstone National Park has experienced a significant influx of Chinese tourists, a trend documented by recent travel reports. Observations from the park highlight cultural frictions regarding queuing and public behavior. Many international visitors are reportedly drawn to the region specifically for the opportunity to visit American shooting ranges, an activity restricted in their home country.

chinese tourists· yellowstone· tourism trends· cultural differences· shooting ranges

04:03 The park is filled with two kinds of people and a lot of them are the same kind of people one is Photographers just everywhere you see lenses poking out people walking backwards onto the road taking pictures completely nuts about what? Oh, yeah. You have to be careful in And and the place is filled with Chinese and usually they're the same person So the place is just... Thousands. You should have Chinese, not Japanese? Thousands! And I looked it up Yellowstone a magnet for fast-growing ranks of Chinese tourists It was really noticeable John and the Chinese are rude I'm gonna generalize The Chinese from China they're rude They push around they jump in line we've talked about this before They do They spit on the ground they're hawking everywhere

04:53 Yeah, they walk right just now rude at that which is their culture to them. No it's their culture I understand rude to you yeah a lot of them love going to Yellowstone because there's You know there's shooting ranges that you could shoot all kinds of guns which of course the Chinese can't do in their Their home country of China away from those But zero but it was uh it was very noticeable not in the campground by the way No Chiners, no Chiners camping. Nope! No Chiner's camping It was nice of them we stayed in the Teton Park Campground Right just right outside the park it was good I set up the buddy pole did a couple of Q-Sows from 8000 feet which is nice Do you have your card?

CHAPTER 03 / 58 Discussion

Airstream Towing Performance, Teton Pass Driving Safety

A discussion of the mechanical performance of a Ford truck towing an Airstream trailer through the 10% grades of Teton Pass. Safety advice is exchanged regarding the use of runaway truck ramps and engine braking systems during steep descents. The rig successfully navigated the incline to Salt Lake City despite minor increases in engine temperature.

ford truck· airstream· teton pass· towing· runaway truck ramps

05:43 QSL card yeah, yeah you do. Yeah, yes, I have a you don't have a qsl card anyone John You give you gave my epic no agenda beer to your freaking kid Why would I send you a card that was my beer? I gave them okay? Okay, well so my beers still there Yes, your beer is still here. Okay good But it was a little surprising. I thought the drive to Salt Lake City from Yellowstone would be a little shorter still took a good six and half hours and Part of the reason is you go through the pass which is a 10% incline and decline grade And I'm happy to announce that the rig performed brilliantly going up. That's pretty steep ten percent

06:33 Yeah, especially when you're towing something yeah that and I saw the thermometer engine temperature move up a little bit But no it wasn't too bad. It was one downhill is the more dangerous part yes Yes And so I recommend something for ya okay? So they have these uh I think they have them in the Rockies sure they do They must they have the route some trucks when they're going down hill especially if the inclines more than 10% sometimes You can be as high as 15 And they have these little areas that you can turn out to, it's out of control. Yeah well it's a runaway truck ramp. Yeah there is a ramp and so you turn into it and its all... It's gravel! You basically get buried in gravel. So my recommendation to you because it's always possible that bad things could happen just do a dry run into it. Yeah no.

07:31 No, but by the way the Ford it if you set the cruise control It does downshift and brake on the engine as much as possible when going downhill that was pretty impressive Most cruise controls try to slow you down for the last car. I had John was in you know Dodge Ram from 2002 I Was I was happy of the thing would go down there Danny did we would roll? Yeah We had a great meetup last night in Salt Lake City. This is at Justin Peck's house where we had the same Meet up on the previous tour that was three years ago now Yeah, and a lot of familiar faces there Sherry Osborne the rain stick lady ah yep And she pleaded with me yes She says you need to shake it a lot more But she also said please ask John to be a little careful with it because they do work You know

CHAPTER 04 / 58 Discussion

Salt Lake City Meetup, Media Perception of Migrants

A podcast listener meetup in Salt Lake City featured a discussion with an English teacher who works with Middle Eastern migrants. The conversation addressed her initial apprehensions about the show's stance on immigration and Donald Trump, which she had formed based on mainstream media portrayals. The interaction resulted in a shift in her perspective regarding the accuracy of news outlets like NPR.

salt lake city· migrants· media bias· npr· trump

08:27 It was really nice there was one of the producers brought his wife and She didn't want me to mention where she works or her name, but she was really nervous first all she's super cute. She was Looking nervous And you know I couldn't quite figure it out then at a certain point She was about ready to leave and with their husband, and he was he was really cool And she says, well... I said, what do you think of your no agenda experience? She said, I don't feel good about this. What do you mean? Well, but here talking about migrants and about Trump and are like a hate group or...? Yeah only hate groups talk about Trump. But it was specifically about migrants now turns out she teaches English as a second language mainly to... Migrants

09:21 Well, yes. People planning on migrating but... From the Middle East, a lot of Iranians, Saudis. I think mainly Saudis probably but anyway she it was beautiful because she had all these things in her head about you know that we hate the migrants and we want them all dead and like hold on a second where are you getting this from? And that Trump he said Megan Kelly was a bimbo on her period. No he didn't actually say that yes he did no no no he didn't say that And what it turned into was a on-the-spot live mouth hitting exercise. It was really cool, everyone sat there and we all kind of were very careful you know we were of course surrounding her. What the whole group with no agenda? Yes everybody was surrounding this one woman why she there in the first place? She was with her husband who's a producer and listener but he should be able to

10:15 Well, you know what? I think not only did we save her. We saved their marriage and she walked out of there and she sent me an email saying this is...I'm so surprised. I had no idea but I thought...I knew I was being bullcrap by the news. I even start to question NPR like okay. Anthony Comegna. NPR needs to be questioned. Greg Swatek. Yeah. So it was truly beautiful and I think we have a valuable resource because she talks to all these young people, millennials in the Middle East, and she has all kinds of information about it. I'm sure the millennials from...well that's the Iranians! We have one of our contacts, the guy Mohamed who is in Bahrain sends us notes—I think we'll read one of them today—and he discusses the Millennials in Iran because he sent me a letter with...and I was actually stunned by this and I'll put it on the next newsletter people sign up for the newsletters so you can get this picture

CHAPTER 06 / 58 Discussion

Ben Carson Campaign, Republican Views on Muslims

Dr. Ben Carson reported a surge in campaign donations following controversial remarks regarding the suitability of a Muslim serving as President of the United States. Media analysts, including Don Lemon, debated whether these comments appeal to a specific segment of the Republican base. The discussion suggests that political rhetoric has shifted focus from racial issues to religious identity as a primary wedge issue.

ben carson· don lemon· republican party· islamophobia· campaign finance

13:00 At the end of the day, Republicans hate Muslims. One person who is also benefiting from that possibly is Dr. Ben Carson when he made his— And this is Don Lemon with Frank Rich who I think used to write for The New York Times not sure what he does now. Comments about you know not necessarily he wouldn't support a Muslim as president of United States He said after that comment, money has been pouring in. Why do you think he's benefiting from this? Because there is a racist bigoted part of the Republican base His own campaign manager said to the New York Post a couple of days ago The Republican primary electorate is 80 to 20 on our side, on these anti-Muslim comments. But what do people see in him? Because he's a minority, he's an African American or... This is funny how Don Lemon can't get it into his head that racism isn't just against black people It could be against all kinds of minorities and its hard for him to parse it

13:58 I don't get it, but you know he's a devout Christian and maybe he thinks... Well i'm saying because there is a racist element out there appealing. He is a black man! He is a black man and there has been Republican support for other black candidates. Herman Cain last time nonetheless You know, it doesn't mean it applies to everybody but I think Muslims are the new sort of target of this kind of racism. Muslim is a new black. Only Don Lemon can say it! Muslim is the New Black Yeah yeah exactly The Republicans saw, this is what I derive from this. Republicans saw that they weren't getting anything... it just wasn't working. This hating black people, it wasn't really talking to the base so they switched and they became racist against Muslims because that's the new black. Well they have to be racist against something or there wouldn't be republicans! Exactly

CHAPTER 07 / 58 Discussion

Media Matters Criticism, Salt Lake City Campground

The hosts respond to accusations of "Islamophobia" from Media Matters and other critics who categorize the program as a conspiracy theory outlet. Meanwhile, the travel log continues with a report from a Salt Lake City campground before a planned departure for Moab, Utah. The segment highlights the dedication of listeners who travel long distances to attend local meetups.

media matters· islamophobia· salt lake city· conspiracy theories· podcasting

14:54 Oh man. It was so beautiful to see someone, the light just went on in her eyes John. I'm sorry but i'm still back at the image of some poor woman surrounded by Noah Jendytes all staring her down like a bunch of cats with a mouse in them. Someone posted a picture on Facebook about the actual occurrence it's pretty cool we're all sitting there folding chairs and Justin is You know, it's man cave filled with you know It was like a Ted Kaczynski and you know filled with the AR-15s. And you know what's kind of depressing on the other hand when somebody says Uh, uh, and I think this is common with our show They they generalize about the show there's just conspiracy. I thought you got conspiracy theorists I thought you guys were just conspiracy theories which is to put down in right off the bat Which means they're not really on your side on anything? and which that media matters guy did

15:52 Oh, yeah. Totally! When did you guys become Islamophobes? I just thought you were just conspiracy theory guys. I didn't know you were... Islamophobes?! Islamophobes! Ah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. No but it was good and it works out the whole entire structure of media works out when I'm continuing with course with the... Ah 3x3! It's only in its sixth week You're exaggerating. Okay, fifth I'm just coming up to week two People were saying this yesterday at the meet It was a good meet-up We had you know people had driven seven eight hours with their kids You know kids wearing cool no agenda t-shirts Yeah it was super nice Sorry there's a little bit of noise here people are moving...I'm in the Salt Lake City campground and Oh? You're still in the campground they didn't kick out No

16:48 The plan is right after the show, after everything's posted and I'm good to go. To drive...I think it's four and half or five hours to Moab. I'm on my way home now. You're heading back? I'm heading back. Yeah, I dropped Tina to keep her off at the airport yesterday she had flyback because she's... What did you fly out of? Salt Lake City International That's a good airport! Yeah they let me drop her off with the Airstream there was no height restriction for drop-off at least. Yeah, well just because I believe the US government hates Mormons so much they hope somebody comes in and blows up the airport This is also what is interesting about the meetup here and I recall this from last year there were people currently in the Mormon Church there were former LDSers everyone just kind of gets along you know Welcome to Utah yeah yeah There's some relation generally

CHAPTER 08 / 58 Discussion

ABC News Bias, Jeb Bush Promotion

An analysis of ABC News coverage suggests a corporate bias in favor of Jeb Bush, attributed to Disney's ownership of the network and its business interests in Florida. The deconstruction examines how the network framed a controversy involving singer John Legend to keep Bush in the news cycle. The hosts argue that mainstream media outlets create "phony baloney" situations to manipulate political narratives.

abc news· jeb bush· disney· media deconstruction· john legend

17:42 Yeah, they get along fine. In fact this is one of the friendliest groups of people you ever run into as Utah folks. Truly! Truly! Except when they're playing football... I don't know about that. They seem to be a bunch of dirty teams no offense! Yeah, careful Well, let's listen to a little of the three-by-three analysis. Yes, three by three. With ABC is one of the stations... They're pushing George Bush and they do everything... Not George Bush but Jeb Bush? And let us explain again this is because Jeb Bush, governor of Florida has big Disneyland lots of deals lots of concessions lots of things Disney was allowed to do Disney owns ABC. ABC then plugs Jeb Bush

18:25 Very simple, straightforward deconstruction. But they can't just come out and say we think you should vote for Bush So they have all kinds of different ways of doing it so let's play a couple of them My favorite one this one here is the good one This is ABC push for Bush Rubio rising in the polls and taking on Trump because quite frankly he doesn't know anything about policy. But Trump does know how to fight and now he's all over Rubio. I think he is a baby. Trump's fire once squarely trained on Jeb Bush but now Bush facing criticism over something he said about how to attract African-American voters Our message is one of hope and aspiration

19:05 It isn't one of division and get in line, and we'll take care of you with free stuff. Singer John Legend tweeting it's always the guys born on third base talking about black people lining up for free stuff David tonight I spoke with senior members of the Jeb Bush campaign who tell me Bush's comments are being taken out of context that he was taught about empowering people because the Democrats' war on poverty has failed. David, Tom Yamas with us again tonight. Tom thanks. They gotta get them board it's not about black people anymore Muslim is the new black now the way that story was presented I thought was remarkable it was all it was actually very pro-bush he was

19:44 And and the funny thing is this was this little incident with John legend. It's reading something Which was played by no other station? No other network to pick this up night They didn't care of course there was just like it was like what can we do to get Bush back in the news well Let's dream something off Hey, this reminded me by the way when I heard this but with this setup this situation that was created and then solved All at the same time reminded me you and that's crazy thing You did about the douchebag drug guy. And by the way, but a douche bag drug guy Do you mean the guy who almost mailed my drugs to the? To the governor what

20:26 What drug guy are you talking about? You had a thing on the last show about that drug guy who'd hike the price of that parasitic... Oh, I thought you were talking about important drugs. Now wait a minute! I told you about Danny The Drug Dealer when he gave me his child support checks and almost mailed my weed to the to the government? It was about the drug companies all do this, so let's find some patsy, a straw man who happens to be a hedge fund manager so we can make the association that all creeps are financial guys. Don't pay attention to us, the drug guys." You know you should do a show with him? No. Okay

21:26 Anyway, so they create this phony baloney situation and they come out and make Bush... well Bush is great. I didn't actually hear that but... That's the way in my mind I realized that clip. Now here's the other one. This again, this is again ABC now they're out to They're out to get, they don't want Trump. He's a problem. Everyone is against Trump trying to get rid of him and they are doing everything they can and they play everything very coy the way they say oh he has fallen in the ratings but you know still 10 points ahead everybody and probably more

CHAPTER 09 / 58 Discussion

Donald Trump vs. Carly Fiorina, Media Narrative Construction

Mainstream networks like CNN and ABC are accused of manufacturing a "horse race" narrative between Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina to boost advertising ratings. Media coverage focused on Trump's use of the word "shrill" to describe Hillary Clinton, framing it as a sexist gaffe. The analysis suggests that poll numbers are often manipulated or emphasized selectively to create drama for television audiences.

donald trump· carly fiorina· cnn· sexism· political polls

22:03 But listen to this talk about a stretch of a way to To slam some guy. This is the WTF clip about Trump using the word shrill This is like the big lead-in turn out of the race for 2016 and to a new poll at the numbers tonight one poll showing A Republican candidate quickly on the rise and it's not Donald Trump, it is Carly Fiorina. Trump meantime facing new criticism for his choice of words describing a woman in the race not Fiorina but Hillary Clinton calling her quote shrill some critics now know Trump have used that word to describe a man Well, social justice warriors get out your swords. Oh no! He said he said something anti-feminine Misogynistic a-hole he's real is that the way they did they play this story? He wouldn't have said it about manicurist in there didn't you played part to the actually says he would but I don't know whether well before we do that Can I slide in here with because what is happening the one the way I see now your beat is the three by three and

23:03 CNN is jumping on board and we know that this is ultimately all about advertising, advertising rates. We know that Trump still brings in ratings more importantly the news networks all networks know that he brings in ratings And we always need to have it and you'll have some kind of horse race. We need controversy, we need people like freaking out about stuff It has to be a close race So they've now teed up this showdown which is what it comes down to The showdown between Trump and Fiorina In style Vladimir Putin's saying he wants to meet with Trump when he comes here And that he wants to sit down and have a conversation with him You met Putin I had well the two of them have a lot in common actually but

23:45 This S.U.P frontrunner Donald Trump continues ramping up his criticism of the arena. I find it to be very robotic And I think a bigger problem, frankly is her horrible tenure at various companies that frankly were destroyed. Fiorina shrugging it off... I don't spend a lot of time on the campaign trail thinking about Donald Trump. I really don't and so i'm going to keep doing what I've been doing But her campaign telling supporters in an email we get the point Mr Trump you're worried You should be! You'll be seeing a lot more of that face. Trump also renewing his war against Fox News on Twitter tweeting

24:23 I am having a really hard time watching Fox News and after seeing his poll numbers slide following last week's debate New York magazine, I wasn't treated fairly by CNN and it shouldn't have been three hours long It was too long departure from what Trump initially said following the debate They were very professional the way they handled it. CNN did a very good job So what they're doing here is pitting Trump against Fiorina then the poll numbers It's all irrelevant, but they say okay now we'll focus on these two Here's our little script in a little reality show We're gonna work on tit-for-tat also big Trump look like a whining you know sad loser bitch and a liar But but the most important thing about this clip I saw Carly Fiorina move her eyebrows

25:12 It's wearing off. The question is... I actually think they don't move very far, but now that i saw a move and the question Is will she up? Will she re-up the Botox or would you get stabbed again well it's every three months you know You kind of got to maintain that stuff so if we use it Yeah except for yeah let me get back to my shrill thing Because I never finished I'm sorry point was going to make which was Shrill and Hillary Clinton has been a term associated with her, I don't know for how long. She's always had it. Shrill? For a decade! Yeah So why is it now such a big deal? Well which is obviously just to lead into just this do a cheap shot at Trump Now I've been picking up on memes

CHAPTER 10 / 58 Discussion

Political Dirty Tricks, Trump Crowd Size Memes

The recurring media narrative of "empty seats" at Donald Trump's South Carolina events is characterized as a potential political dirty trick. The segment draws parallels to the Nixon era, where activists used public humiliation tactics to undermine candidates. The hosts argue that these "memes" are coordinated efforts by the media to signal a decline in a candidate's popularity.

dirty tricks· richard nixon· south carolina· media memes· crowd size

26:01 One of them, and everybody uses them all the networks. They use sliding his numbers are sliding, sliding yeah falling numbers and then the one that they I like I think Katie Turin I have another Katie Tur report she's out to get him I have heard on two or three stations now, and it was on the clip that I played last show where they talk about the half empty room in South Carolina. Empty seats, yeah. Empty seats, half empty room is speaking to a half-empty crowd. Because I've heard this so many times, I'm now thinking that the half empty room was a dirty trick. Possibly!

26:41 Because dirty tricks of course are part of the political landscape. We don't hear as much about him as we used to during the Nixon administration when he had this enemy who was always playing dirty tricks on him and he just a bit, he was apolitical this guy I can't remember his name people can probably someone in the chat room might remember it but this guy was that was the bane of Nixon He would dress up in chicken suits with signs that said something silly. He was getting more attention than Nixon for a long time because he was just humiliating Nixon constantly and I think that this has never really left the political scene, these sort of dirty tricks and i think the half empty room was a dirty trick somehow. The thing was cancelled

27:21 Or, you know, everyone's told us cancel. Who knows? But it seems like a dirty trick because it has become a meme. But let's get to the WTF2 clip which is the wrap-up of that evil Donald Trump and I want to stop for second and mention to people listening this Donald Trump analysis where he did a lot of... What we're doing is showing you how the media is trying to manipulate the public And right now, Trump is just the absolute best example of evidence of this. Yes and I believe he will wind up holding the short end of the stick on this. He has no idea when... When i saw that uh.. The then-I'll just call her a new producer to the show yesterday

CHAPTER 11 / 58 Discussion

Trump 60 Minutes Interview, Thin-Skinned Meme

A teaser for a 60 Minutes interview with Scott Pelley features Donald Trump defending himself against the "thin-skinned" label. Trump asserts that his aggression is a response to dishonest reporting rather than a lack of composure. The hosts analyze how the media uses specific labels, such as "sore loser" or "ill-informed," to create a psychological profile that discourages voters.

60 minutes· scott pelley· donald trump· thin-skinned· media manipulation

28:02 And you know even the name Donald Trump there was fire-filled hate in her eyes You know and horse just and I'm like wow, you know it works So well and people no so little they'd listen. No they get headlines They just hear something whatever isn't a Hawaii is nail hates women. I hate swim Yeah, hey Muslim to hate with me. I was gonna kill all the immigrants yeah right it's like You can see people who are informed purely by Facebook. You can just see them! Yeah, alright part two Well there anyway this is a very good study With new polls I'm sorry? I'm sorry i was just saying this is a good study to follow this With new poll showing Donald Trump's lead shrinking His newly emboldened rivals are calling him out as thin-skinned and ill informed If I wasn't talking to all the people who attack me...I would have crawled under a rock long ago

28:59 That's part of it, you know? A new poll tonight showing Fiorina now in second place in New Hampshire. And just behind her Marco Rubio also taking aim at Trump He is not well informed on the issues he really never talks about issues and can't have more than a 10-second soundbite on any key issue. He's very touchy and insecure guy All week Trump ripping into his competition Rubio I've never seen a young guy sweat that much No I've never seen...he's drinking water water water I'd never saw anything like this with him with the water And today, Trump fending off new accusations of sexism after this comment about Hillary Clinton.

29:37 She's become shrill. Trump insisting he would say the same thing about a man I think the word shrill doesn't apply to women exclusively she's gotten very loud, she's gotten very boisterous and that can happen to men too, Cady And David Trump now making a big push for evangelicals tomorrow making an appearance at the values voters summit in Washington DC and on Monday inviting more than a dozen church leaders to Trump Tower Wanted I wanted to tack on to that because you we have that Hillary laugh You know, and I think your analysis of that was yes. She has to appear more friendly and they have a whole new way for her to act. I caught Fareed Zakaria who is of course is an insider even though he claims himself as being a journalist He's pretty much a columnist who plagiarizes frequently Oh yeah And he was talking...I guess he was being asked about

CHAPTER 12 / 58 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Image Rebranding, Fareed Zakaria Analysis

Fareed Zakaria's commentary on Hillary Clinton is analyzed as an attempt to rebrand her public image. Zakaria suggests that Clinton's primary challenge is a lack of "charisma" and that she needs to project more warmth when addressing the email controversy. The hosts compare her public performances to acting, suggesting a calculated effort to appear more relatable to the electorate.

hillary clinton· fareed zakaria· charisma· email controversy· meryl streep

30:37 about Clinton and how she, you know if she has a shot or whatever. So he's all in but then he gives a little tell at the end of this clip. Look they have to be worried it would be silly not to be worried The truth of the matter is Hillary Clinton is an incredibly impressive public figure In my opinion She's very intelligent She's always very well briefed She's very smart on policy She's put out more policy papers I think than any of the other candidates She has trouble with the sort of charisma element, you know and the fact that she did that is always a struggle for her Produces, you know invite some of this and she hasn't had the ability to do what?

31:20 Clinton just did, which is to explain the email controversy with this long arc. He has this way of effortlessly explaining it all, which I think if she could do with a smile it would change things. There you go! With a smile they've talked about it... It's so obvious She's a little actress, little Meryl Streep she is. Yeah it's outstanding. So some of the memes and you heard them in the last clip played and you'll hear more of them but they're experimenting with memes to make Trump look like an idiot

CHAPTER 13 / 58 Discussion

Marco Rubio Thirst Meme, Trump Meme Wars

Donald Trump's mockery of Marco Rubio's frequent water consumption has evolved into a persistent political meme. The discussion explores how Trump engages in "meme wars" by highlighting the physical quirks of his opponents. However, the hosts suggest Trump is making a mistake by reacting too defensively to media labels like "thin-skinned," which only reinforces the narrative.

marco rubio· donald trump· memes· political strategy· water bottle

31:57 They booed him at that event they talked about, the Family Values event because he jumped on Rubio. They don't like that—they love Rubio. But I didn't get this clip but after hearing his comment about Rubio being so damn thirsty, Rubio when he went to this event said why do I need eight bottles of water? Yeah, well see this is well known for this but the one that they're really trying to it Is the issues when he doesn't talk issues and then the one they were really going after him because I know it's damaging And they did it in that clip thin-skinned Yes, same thing with a sore loser sore loser whiny bitch Thin skinned and to prove that. I want just listen to this little piece from

32:40 This is the Trump CBS. This is a tease for tonight's show on 60 Minutes, Trump's going to be interviewed by Scott Pelley and this is the teaser for it that was on the CBS Evening News. This is the Trump CBS does not like lies clip listen to how its set up. A billionaire frontrunner is harsh on his critics and we asked him about that for 60 minutes Why so thin-skinned? I don't like lies. I don't mind a bad story if you did a bad story on me for 60 minutes, if it were fair story, I wouldn't be thin skinned at all You know some of the media is among the worst people have ever met and I mean a pretty good percentage Is really a terrible group of people they write lies they write false stories They know their false It makes no difference

33:25 And frankly, I'm...I don't call it thin-skinned. I'm angry! But a reporter asked you a couple of hard questions at the first debate and the whole week after that it's war on that reporter Well, I don't think that was a fair question An impression is created though that you like to dish it out but you can't take a punch Oh, I think I can take it. I could take if its fair Again If people say things that are false which happens a lot with me If people say things that are false I will fight like harder than anybody. If i do something wrong and that happens, and they write a fair story that I did something wrong there's nothing to fight about! I can handle that. You know what? I'm not very honorable guy...I don't like lies He is making a mistake here. He is making a huge mistake in this couple of things you know when you have to say but first let me say this he doesn't

34:15 understand the meme wars. He should call him out when the word thin-skinned is used. Yeah, or buying his way into the presidency that this is another one. It's another... they dropped that one! I don't hear that anymore. Thin skinned is the one they're working with. Because we don't want a president who's thin-skinned. Yeah, because you know people who are thin skinned and we don't like them And we do not want someone whose thin skinned that would fly off the handle We dont want them with their hand on the button He has got the nuke button Oh yeah he has got the nuke button Well that meme continues But for the entire Republican community at large I was wondering whether anybody here sort of twigged That he chose Thomas Did you hear that word? Twigged

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Pope Francis Speech, Christiane Amanpour Commentary

Christiane Amanpour's coverage of Pope Francis's visit to the United States is criticized for its focus on "inter-religious dialogue." The segment links the Pope's rhetoric to the teachings of Thomas Merton and the influence of Fethullah Gulen. The hosts express skepticism toward the "interfaith" movement, viewing it as a strategic tool for political globalization.

pope francis· christiane amanpour· thomas merton· interfaith dialogue· fethullah gulen

35:06 What does that mean? I had to look it up. Twigged is British for, it's kind of the British version of Grok. Did anyone hear Grok? Grok?! Yeah! Twigged. I looked it up here in the book of knowledge. Play that again then... I was wondering whether anybody here sort of twigged that he chose Thomas Merton as his... Twigged. So, I mean understand does anyone here understand why he chose Thomas Merton? Is that what his question is really meaning to say. If anybody you know gets it i guess and here's the answer. who had tolerance and inter-religious dialogue as his leitmotif. Inter-religious dialogue, that's a big... you gotta look out for interfaith dialogue, inter-religious dialogue You're right! The Pope is pushing this But who else is pushing this? This is what Fethullah Gulen pushes the imam on the hill there in Pennsylvania whose running all the charter schools

36:00 They're all about interfaith dialogue, interfaith this. It's a trick! It's a trick I tell ya! Leach motif and in that Congress was one of the Republican candidates for presidency there are two the top Republican candidates have decided to make a war on Muslims 1.5 billion members of another faith How did- where did someone stand up and say we should kill all Muslims? Did i miss something I mean, please. How do you make that leap? Well if you're Christiane Antoninpour, you can do all kinds of things. She uses the word twig or whatever that is. Twig?! It's like a stick! Yeah she has another word here hold on... And it must be a little bit weird to have that sort of discordance when this Pope is here talking about what makes America great. I thought it was a bull crap word first but uh discordance exists. Oh yeah so just a famous word. Yeah I've never heard it

36:58 Sounds good though. I'm just gonna start using it you know fit into conversations When you look at the media, there's so much discordance between the interface dialogue perfect don't you twig that nailed? Do you twig that baby do you twig any of that if the tweak thing weakens Allah use of discourse is dropped out a land I'll land one more in Grok I know you don't like that rock Any more on, well actually I'd let me see do i have something else here? No. Do you have any more on the election or can we move to the next topic uh well no I think that I think I've got the elections so oh yeah you might as well play this let's go let's move to NBC and get this out of the way because she's out to get him Katie Turrer who was insulted by him even though it was looking back and I think when he's with people in general

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Katie Tur vs. Donald Trump, NBC News Bias

NBC News reporter Katie Tur is accused of producing "propaganda" pieces aimed at undermining Donald Trump's campaign. The analysis focuses on a report where Tur highlighted boos at a Trump event while allegedly ignoring cheers. The hosts suggest that networks may be manipulating audio or selectively editing footage to make Trump appear less popular than he is.

katie tur· nbc news· donald trump· propaganda· media bias

37:53 I think he tries to bring out the best. He does it in an awkward way, but i think he tries to bring out the best in people But she found it offensive so she's out again So here's Katie Turr though her and Major Garrett are the two that are just waiting to get this guy playing into the game Versus Trump part three months of flying under the radar and refusing to comment on trump Rubio is now attacking perhaps smelling blood in the water on Trump's foreign policy debt Donald Trump's had a bad week. You know, Carly embarrassed him on stage He spoke the other day to an early empty room in South Carolina and he's not reacting well to it Trump still commanding a sizable lead is off to stump in Oklahoma tonight But not before he put his spin on today. Today I didn't get booze, I got cheers. You didn't get booze? I got booze for you but I got cheers Trump did get a standing ovation when he walked into the room as well as applause and cheers before and after

38:46 after the booing, but when I asked some in the crowd if they would vote for him they laughed and said no he's not religious or conservative enough. Lester? Katie sure thank you that's why brought his Bible out somewhere so she did a straw poll ask one person right and they don't say yeah like me won't vote for him so this is like propaganda is a propaganda piece and i think there sweetening Trump on some of these walk bys Because when he said no, I didn't hear booze. I heard applause that got boosted Yeah yeah I think they sped it up because if you speed up trunk Trump and I'm gonna prove this on the next show Or you screw with his sound You can really make him sound like a jerk huh?

39:29 Okay, good. I look forward to that that's very possible So you're saying they actually spin him up a little just to make him sound it'll sound more whiny for sure yeah Well he's not fear and i don't like when people lie Exactly! Good one. I can't wait for that That'd be good. You gotta do side by side man That's hard. That's hard. Clips just have him sound like a whiny bitch. Well, the yeah, whiny bitch that's it. Sore loser, whiny bitch thin skinned, crazy hair and nut job hates immigrants go after him. Yeah, he has ground. He has no idea if anyone ever needed the curry Dvorak political consulting group is him right now but he's doing it all wrong you don't eat. He's feeding the trolls well If you lie about me I'm coming after you Oh geez

40:14 Really? That's the stupidest thing you can say, because they're going to do that now. But I'm still waiting for him to go after his kids and his wives." I don't think they have to and I think they're trying not to. We'll see. Meanwhile...I could not believe my eyes we have a full-blown full on reality show going this of course could only be CNN. CNN, I really love what they do. You love CNN! Because it's so obvious that everything they get is all from Project Pundit there the Pentagon and you know they send all their people out in fact... The Pentagon has so many public relations people we had to number once it's over 5 thousand It's 10 thousand, it's crazy number yeah he's like hey your retired general here's your book oh okay yeah go out and promote it here's your talking points here's your agenda

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Al-Qaeda vs. ISIS, Reality TV Framing

CNN's coverage of the rivalry between Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri and ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is compared to reality television production. The network uses split-screen visuals and "backstory" narratives to frame the conflict as a personal feud. Security analysts warn that this competition for "jihadist recruits" could lead to increased terror threats against the West.

al-qaeda· isis· cnn· ayman al-zawahiri· abu bakr al-baghdadi

41:06 Well, so now we of course we know you've taught us this. What is the number one element needed for any reality show? Conflict and drama! So now not only do we have two groups competing with each other... The leader of one group is dressed in white the leader of the other group is dressed in black it could not get any better visually They famously split are competing for recruits and now its personal Tonight, for the first time we hear Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri openly attack ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi by name. See? This is fair! It's like The Real Housewives... Well she... She may have stumbled onto something here. She said something mean and she didn't apologize when she insulted my husband In an audio message Zawahiri calls Baghdadi and ISIS illegitimate We do not acknowledge the caliphate

42:00 and the Muslims are not obligated to pledge allegiance to it. Wait a minute! What? And we do not see Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as one worthy of the caliphate." This is pure frustration, analysts say over Baghdadi and ISIS heavily recruiting jihadists and stealing Al Qaeda's propaganda thunder. You can compare it to two drug gangs or two mafia mobs. Yeah. Here they are, one is encroaching on the other's territory A US intelligence official tells CNN this could reflect Zawahiri's bitterness after ISIS rejected his attempts to mend fences. I mean, they're giving a backstory for people who maybe are new to the show This is the format of reality television

42:41 You start off with a conflict, you show the white guy looking all white and black guy looking all black. Just two put them split screen next to each other. Well who knows what could happen next? And then they give the backstory on why he hates him. Oh she said this she said that but there's clearly personal animosity at play. Zawahiri and Baghdadi hate each other a lot Zawahiri, from his perspective... There's Andy Cohen telling them how much they hate each other. ...sees Baghdadi as an undisciplined disobedient upstart. Baghdadi for his part sees Zawahiri as too meddlesome in other people's affairs The broadside from one terrorist leader toward the other brings a strong warning tonight from one of Congress' top homeland security leaders. Well you can only guess what that means John I mean

43:30 If we have two competing sides, what are they going to try and do? They're gonna try to blow us up. Yes! Al Qaeda and ISIS will now ramp-up efforts to outdo each other with deadly consequences for America. If you see that kind of competition I worry that they're gonna up the ante to try to win be the winning game in town and attack the United States The competitions already started Competition! Take a page from Isis's playbook Hey, I want to vote that guy off. Do we have a text number yet that we can dial in? Where's Ryan Seacrest? Where is our number to dial in? Al-Qaeda has recently stepped up its calls for lone wolf attacks Hey, wait a minute. Now we're talking reality television! Bill Gates? Who else are we gonna assassinate? Oh, Coke Brothers! Yayyyy let's kill those guys this is great! That's a good start right there. Take those four and kill them

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Keeping Up With The Caliphate, Terrorist Branding

The hosts satirize the media's dramatization of terrorist conflicts by proposing a show titled "Keeping Up With The Caliphate." They critique the way news organizations personify terrorist organizations to create compelling content for viewers. The segment highlights the absurdity of treating global security threats as episodic entertainment.

reality tv· isis· al-qaeda· branding· satire

44:25 Man, he'd be dancing in the streets. He also indicated they could work together to attack the West saying if he was in Iraq... Stop that for a second If I was Gates Buffett or even the Koch brothers They must know this is bullcrap and I would go after these reporters What are you trying to do? Why are you mentioning my name?" Oh, because we have a report. No, you don't! You have no report this whole thing is bullcrap and you keep mentioning my name as the target because you could bring some lunatic out of the woodwork now course that would jack up ratings. But yeah...

45:05 It would jack up ratings if some lunatic out of the woodwork shot Buffett. Why don't they say Trump or something else cool? Or some other Republican? Maybe because he's running for president... No, I think it's because he is running for president. I'm sorry it's a different show! A different reality show. We can't cross the streams! That's so true! So true. The Wahhuri also indicated they could work together to attack the West, saying if he was in Iraq or Syria quote I would cooperate with them in fighting the Crusaders He does not want to take all his cards off the table because of the Islamic State begins to gain more momentum and it becomes even stronger than is now over Al-Qaeda and it is then Zawahiri wants leave his options open

45:51 Yeah, buh-buh. Buh-buh. Ah! Fabulous I'm very excited about the new one That's a good catch We'll be on the lookout for it You are now officially the watcher of this particular soap opera We need a name for it, we need a name for it Oh yeah, it's gotta have been named It's got to have one of those... I know, keeping up with the caliphate I like that. Okay, jingle makers out there we know you're out there keeping up with the caliphate is a good jingle Al Zawahiri versus al-Baghdadi Keeping Up With The Caliphate Last time on Keeping Up With The Caliphate Yeah...I think it'll work

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John Boehner Resignation, House Speaker Transition

Speaker of the House John Boehner announced his resignation following pressure from the conservative wing of the Republican Party. The media narrative focused on Boehner's emotional nature and his recent meeting with Pope Francis. Kevin McCarthy is identified as the early favorite to succeed Boehner in the leadership role.

john boehner· house of representatives· resignation· marco rubio· kevin mccarthy

46:29 Think it will work winner. Yeah, good catch yeah well be on the lookout for you're only gonna see more and then of course You know how did the show ends the two of them join size and go after us? They always going after but wait we don't that doesn't become apparent until episode 6 oh no that's got to be deep yes I'm thinking 13 as A seasoned cliffhanger you mean as a seasoned cliffhanger Oh Man So John Boehner quit Yeah, crybaby this cuz you were on the road. I caught it. I was listening to CNN on the Sirius XM satellite yeah

47:12 I guess the meme is that, oh the far right and his party hated him. The crazy far right! Far Right! Far Right! Let's play this clip because there is an element that I don't think it was in the clip but they talk about as though its news. Boehner cried he cried do you remember? I mean, we've always crying. Yeah, Bainer five or six years ago were talking about how Bay goes drops and goes into tears at the drop of a hat. We have a lot of professors and scientists in the human sciences. Wow! I need to close this window. The wind is blowing hard but i would like to know if someone is always on the verge of crying does that not mean that there's some deep

48:01 Childhood trauma gnawing away with him all at him all the time that it's just bubbling up to the surface like something really Really horrible happened to this guy and I don't know maybe he's just sad because I'll remember when you know When I got divorced although, you know of course it was joyous to be you But I was emotional and I would catch myself like watching the voice first of all watching the voice and then second voice well There's just this designed to be a tape something That's a tearjerker is called a tearjerker for a reason my point is. I know this I'm a professional I don't blather at the voice, but you know there was all kinds of emotions going on and I'm watching the voice

48:43 So I'm thinking the guy has some he has some big Big psychological thing going on underneath the surface. Well, shallow very shed right underneath the surface anyway Maybe he's deep maybe it says he's deep me I doubt it well here's that here's a rundown for people who don't know deep Deep John Boehner quits his job when Boehner said those fights were unwinnable He became the enemy Here's how conservative activists reacted today when Senator Marco Rubio broke the news just a few minutes ago Speaker Boehner announced that he will be resigning

49:36 Since July, a couple dozen conservatives have been pushing for another vote to unseat Boehner. And the contempt is mutual. You've used words like knuckleheads and some other words we probably can't use on television. Had you just had enough? I would not describe it as having had enough. That's not it at all When you're the Speaker of the House, your number one responsibility is to the institution. And having a vote like this in the institution

50:16 I don't think it's very healthy. What vote is he talking about, John? They want to vote him out! Oh okay...I get it now. Pick or face the same thing? Hopefully not The uncertainty worries some Republicans like New York's Peter King. If you're bad for the party that's a crazy issue taken over It could help explain why Boehner was so emotional when he met the Pope yesterday.

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Pope Francis Assassination Fears, Susan Sarandon Comments

Actress Susan Sarandon expressed public concern that Pope Francis might be assassinated during his visit to the United States. This sentiment was echoed in discussions regarding John Boehner's emotional reaction to the Pope's request for prayer. The segment explores the various conspiracy theories and security concerns surrounding the Papal visit.

pope francis· susan sarandon· assassination· john boehner· conspiracy

51:00 And the Pope puts his arm around me and kind of pulls me to him and says, please pray for me. Well, I didn't pray for the Pope but I did. Conservative groups declared victory today saying Boehner stood in the way of their principles and practiced the art of surrender. But, the early favorite to replace him Scott is his chief lieutenant House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy Nancy thanks Thanks! Thanks Nancy! Nancy thanks Now there's something that was in that report I was thinking about ever since I clipped that which is this thing with the Pope

51:39 who came up to him and says, please pray for me. I think the Pope knows he's part of a bigger scheme and he's going to get killed. Boehner or the pope? The pope that he thinks is oh wow hey the pope goes up to Boehner and he just says pray for me. Do you do that unless you think you're in danger If you're the Pope? Well, there's these hot Christian chicks. You know if you do that you can get a date on with them. Well I don't think unless he is extremely perverted gay...I don't think that was going on. No well i'm just saying it but the pope is you know

52:21 This is very, I find that particular moment and he's talked about it because it was an upset Boehner to the point he's crying. Well there was someone else some other politician who also said I'm afraid the Pope's going to be assassinated who was that? Let me see... And they're gonna blame Putin or something Susan Sarandon! That's who said that Really?! Yeah What does she say what was her thing if she's an atheist why does she care Are you sure she's an AC atheist? Oh, I don't see how she could hold it The Oscar-winning actress, 68, told New York Daily News she's afraid Pope Francis will be murdered when he visits the U.S., I think they're going to assassinate him! She said of the pope. Oh, but Hitler thinks he'll get murdered and that it's not gonna happen? He's not gonna get murdered here No they always do the goblet with you or the ring They open the ring with the poison and then it goes into the goblet Poison... He drinks from the chalice and spills over Yeah, the chalice Exactly we know how works Please please

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Podcast Production Update, Newsletter Subscription

The hosts provide an update on the show's production and the importance of subscribing to the official newsletter for exclusive updates. They briefly reference a change in their relationship with the TWiT network, directing listeners to the newsletter for the full details. The segment emphasizes the "value for value" model and thanks the community for their ongoing support.

podcasting· newsletter· twit network· value for value· show notes

53:24 Let me see. You know, why don't we move into the B block here? We got a lot of things to handle and I've got... The German Volkswagen Fracas has Become more intriguing and more interesting so I have three clips about it good good We're on the same track. We're on this you want to do that now should we do that before the bro? Why don't we take a break as we do of us because if people don't know I had been unceremoniously relieved of duties at the twit broadcasts

54:00 We're not gonna talk about it on the show, but it was very carefully outlined in the newsletter. Yeah which if you don't subscribe now is the time to subscribe. The link is on every Show Notes page, it's on noagendashow.com I don't know why people don't subscribe because a lot of the newsletters... And this was a special bulletin. It's just something people need to be a subscriber to so with that I like you what is all the ruckus we're reading the news I don't get the newsletter. What do you ever donate? Yeah, I've donated but they people Unsubscribe from in the newsletter routinely and then they complain They don't know anything they can plan it on this information so well that not all the newsletters are gold

54:45 I disagree. I think they're all gold. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for canned Dvorak! And in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there Thank you to the artists. Man, we had some nice art on episode 759-er. Thank you very much. PewDiePie! This is PewDiePie cat is coming in with some pretty good stuff. This was our geopolitical Chernobyl episode and had a great piece of art at Denver Airport with that blue horse of death with laser beam eyes zapping the air stream of consciousness into... It's called Bluecifer by the locals. Bluecifer? Good.

55:34 Blucifer. Noah ArtGenerator dot com We always love seeing right after the show we'd love seeing what the artists have uploaded during the live show This is not this is no small feat with people are pulling off here, and it's highly appreciated Alright, so I want to thank a few people. We have a number because of my... as Eric DeShill says maybe she'll get fired more often we had a bunch of people that came in with pretty good substantial donations to help us here on show 760 starting with Pierce and two instant nights which is rare to get two in a row it's been awhile although by random number theory he's not that rare Pierce Delphin in Melbourne

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Executive Producer Donations, Sir Blackballs of Wit

A series of high-value donations are acknowledged, including a $1,000 contribution from Pierce Delphin in Melbourne and another $1,000 from Kevin B in Chicago. The donors are granted honorary titles, such as "Sir Blackballs of Wit," in recognition of their support. The segment highlights the global reach of the audience, from Australia to the Pacific Northwest.

donations· cybersecurity· melbourne· chicago· knights

54:45 I disagree. I think they're all gold. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for canned Dvorak! And in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water all the dames and knights out there Thank you to the artists. Man, we had some nice art on episode 759-er. Thank you very much. PewDiePie! This is PewDiePie cat is coming in with some pretty good stuff. This was our geopolitical Chernobyl episode and had a great piece of art at Denver Airport with that blue horse of death with laser beam eyes zapping the air stream of consciousness into... It's called Bluecifer by the locals. Bluecifer? Good.

55:34 Blucifer. Noah ArtGenerator dot com We always love seeing right after the show we'd love seeing what the artists have uploaded during the live show This is not this is no small feat with people are pulling off here, and it's highly appreciated Alright, so I want to thank a few people. We have a number because of my... as Eric DeShill says maybe she'll get fired more often we had a bunch of people that came in with pretty good substantial donations to help us here on show 760 starting with Pierce and two instant nights which is rare to get two in a row it's been awhile although by random number theory he's not that rare Pierce Delphin in Melbourne

56:20 Victoria, Australia $1,000 and 1-0-0. So if you had another one hundredth of a penny on there you'd have an interesting little thing in the morning I'm a longtime boner I've been listening since around 2010 when it was in high school I now have a full-time job in the cybersecurity industry and after reading this week's newsletter, I thought it was time that I donated. The Aussie dollar has recently taken a huge fall against the USD so it is a particularly expensive time for donations from down under but I thought you guys deserved it." No jingles necessary but if possible I'd like to hear the doing the twit remix at the end of the show. I've also noticed that Dvorak has blocked me on Twitter!

57:05 I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena. Somebody whose name was Kenny when I was last here, his first name may have been Ben. You've got karma I'll play the full thing I'm block you shortly. Yeah, I don't know how you got blocked well. Do you know you? Are I'm a blocker do you are and you are truly a blocker? Last night said hey man unblock me Talk I don't blog anybody ever I thrive on it

57:49 He thought you blocked him? Yeah, just because I didn't answer. Oh yeah well you never answered that's for sure. KevinB66 in Chicago Illinois another thousand dollars don't use my full name just call me Kevin B. The instant night donation is an honor of John getting blackballed! I would like to be called Sir Blackballs of Wit Six temper tyrannous God What does that stand for it means ready to fight tyranny? Some like prepared to fight tyranny, maybe is it six em for five semper fi as the Marines? That's a prepared for tyranny per tyranny by I have no idea. I didn't even go into three months ago You can just take in cut it drop it and Google and you'll find out quickly oh

58:34 Sir Duane Melanson, Duke of the Pacific Northwest in Tigard Oregon in the wine growing region just north. 66536... Thus always to tyrants! What? Thus always to tyrants! Ah. ITM Jensen from the currently unincarcerated Duke of the Pacific Northwest this amount spells no Leo on the phone That's a good one. First the brain, now then he laments he says first the brain professor now this sounds like rule followers have a thin skin

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Medical Establishment Donations, Dr. Wookiee

Dr. Wookiee, an emergency medicine physician in California, contributes $500 to the program, discussing the financial burden of medical school loans. Other donations from Phoenix and Houston are acknowledged, with listeners requesting specific "karmic" shout-outs. The segment blends listener correspondence with the show's unique terminology and jingles.

emergency medicine· student loans· california· phoenix· isis

59:20 Karma for all supporting patrons of your show, please. Okay well give you some karma there I'm a rule follower right? What do you do are you a rule follower? You've got karma! I might as well get it out of my system now. You're getting it out of your system Dr. Wookiee in Tracy California $500 another executive producer Please refer to me by my online name dr. Wookiee Dear John and Adam, greetings from FEMA Region 9 in the dreadful hell that is the Central Valley. I've been donating $4 a month since 2013 shortly after John hit me in the mouth while he was appearing on his wit show

59:58 In that time I completed four years of emergency medicine residency, actually working as a slave and making less than the minimum wage for the 60 plus hours a week I put in. And I have finally been working for real job making ungodly amounts of money for the last year it's high time I shared the wealth and become a producer. Of course at the end of the day unquote I have their requisite student loans of more than $330,000 Keeping me a slave. It's ridiculous I resolve to dig deep and deliver a donation to help make up for that big-time twit money He'll be missing out on which is $500, which is what he paid Also make me a night. Okay? I include my accounting below I'd like to be sir dr Wookiee of the medical establishment so I can continue To hit my fellow disillusioned colleagues in the mouth Please make me take me out with a Leo science followed by douchebag

1:00:51 and throw in a karma for the poor souls who are, this is Dr. Kiki's science I believe, out there who don't know better than to come to the emergency department with colds and hangnails! I'm trying to temper my anger towards them!" Oh man... Yeah, give him his karma. Yeah, I-I don't know if I can find that other science thing. Oh, well just give him the Dr. Kiki one that's the best way Always have Dr. Kiki handy Shut up already! Science! You've got karma The science is in

1:01:30 Sir Skitswright comes in with another $500 for Phoenix, Arizona. The only reason I watched Twit was because you were on it but I realized that probably haven't watched in four years so I guess doesn't make any difference here's five hundred dollars for the appearance plus just needed to feel good about something me and my girlfriend just broke up today after three years Spreading the love, hoping some comes my way. I love you guys. SirSkits PSI think things this brings me to a protectorate donation standing again with y'all in the accounting when I feel like counting I would like to be sir skids of Dixie protector of the Suwannee River Okey-dokey another reasonable right and there's gimmick karma You've got karma put all these names in the spreadsheet make sure I get all this right

1:02:21 He's got a bunch of them. I don't know if they're all there okay? Yeah, we're good We got it we got it alright Michael Gooch in Houston Texas right down the street for you $500 and he'd love to hear bugs bugs bugs too delicious to believe my friend an ISIS in America keep up the great work Michael Gooch Okay, man is going little too fast Johnny boy here we go Tastes like poop. Don't eat me! ISIS We will follow them on ISIS Feel good You've got karma Alright, sorry about that The don't-eat-me Hillary Clinton is also for Caleb Watts who's asking for that later in the show I like the combination Yeah, that's a new one

1:03:32 Yeah, Hillary plus the laugh. Don't eat me Hillary Clinton There's a couple of new ones. Maniacal laugh Yes this one would cover your ears children Get out of my vagina It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. Oh jeez that's terrible! I said cover your ears didn't i? Yes you did God put that together Friends Yeah yeah some of the sick listeners we have uh-huh and they hate Thomas They're all Islamophobes alright yeah Islamophobes

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Military and Tech Sector Support, Salt Lake City Meetup

Producers from the Air National Guard and the financial sector contribute to the show, with one listener crediting "pipeline theory" for landing a job at Goldman Sachs. Adam Curry recounts meeting listeners at the Salt Lake City event, including those from the LDS community. The segment reinforces the diverse professional backgrounds of the "No Agenda" producer base.

air national guard· goldman sachs· salt lake city· ham radio· hampton roads

1:04:10 Kevin Thomas in Samaritan, Georgia. Georgia 43210 43210 Thanks for the hard work he likes some karma and says hail apple. Hail Apple! You've got Karma. That was another executive producer this is a big show for us Chad Gertz in Vancouver Washington 350 2009 what does it say something above this? It's not on here I've been listening since early 2009 can't listen any news story without questioning what their agenda is. I'm currently deployed with the Air National Guard to an undisclosed location with lots of sunshine every day. I had to take a $60,000 pay cut from my high-tech job in Oregon but after reading the last newsletter i figured i could not wait any longer

1:05:01 Can I get an 18 Obama and some home by Thanksgiving karma? Thanks for showing me a new perspective soon to be sir Chad of Vanport And we look forward to the ceremony later on there's indeed for a rescue mission when the world is threatened The world needs help it calls on America And that's the story you've got karma Continuing with what might be, and I have to check this but this may be the day with the most executive producers ever in the last eight years. Wow! Zach in Salt Lake City 3333 and he's Zach from Salt Lake City. Met him last night Adam wonderful wonderful to meet you in person during the SLC Meetup John get out of the damn house

1:05:53 I left the house yesterday for five minutes. The mailbox flag was up! Thank you for your work on this wonderful show during the interview with the investment bank GS, I threw in some pipeline theory which I credit helping me land a job. Perfect! There ya go. GS being Goldman Sachs? Yeah, GS Goldman Sachs. I want to wish love to my long distance girlfriend of four years Anissa who hit me in the mouth thank you again So job karma is what he wants? Just top it off? Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got karma

1:06:39 Another 333 from the special goodness, our buddy in Carlsbad California. I think it's a guy 333-33 sorry we're here about the twit bitchiness go podcasting! Go podcasting! Where else are you going to hear anyone point out glaring inconsistencies in the media? Adam, park the silver tube of shenanigans here in Carlsbad and enjoy the finest climate on the continent. Yeah, Tina The Keeper is no longer on board so there's no... What's the point? He's sad. I am! I'm lonely! Trevor Baxter, give him a... he wants some karma but it doesn't show up on your course You've got karma

1:07:26 Sir Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts. That's 333-333. DoerGuardians of Reality thank you for the best podcast in the universe! Hashtag TeamDvorak. Sir Christopher Dolan I thought it was hashtag I stand with JCD That's one of them. There are a bunch of them, which means it doesn't work. John, are you enjoying this moment? Are you enjoying your outpouring of love that you're receiving? I am enjoying the favorable commentary that is provided to me on an never-ending basis for the last couple of days. I appreciate the support And I just think it's fantastic. I mean, it's you know short-lived By this time next week and no one will remember this but I appreciate the moment yeah, that's great Okay good well you deserve it because you're a good guy. I'm a good guy Yeah kind of guy who goes like oh why pick on the old guy?

1:08:20 There you go. It's the it's totally the age, but this is the advantage of any age sympathy vote You're getting here. Oh And I didn't always agree with him, but don't pick on the old guy. Yeah, poor bastard Even get out of the house just we yesterday and I'm greeting out of the house today Where are you going? I'm going to Costco Because the Chinese are still taking all the toilet paper. I gotta get some toilet paper before the Chinas get it all Trevor Baxter and Aurora, Indiana 333 33 greetings from Gitmo Nation popcorn Please don't forget about the metaverse mod squad story. I have long suspended this kind of going on I've tried to do some dig some stuff up for you but can't find anything Thank You for your courage Thank You Eric DeShil

CHAPTER 24 / 58 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Value for Value Model

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for several high-tier donors, including Sir Pablo the Squirrel from New Zealand and Zander Walachia in Budapest. The segment emphasizes the "Value for Value" funding model as an alternative to traditional advertising. The hosts express gratitude for the outpouring of support following recent changes in their media affiliations.

knighting· budapest· new zealand· vancouver· podcasting

1:09:08 Do not read. All right, email me... Man 1 says do not read. Yeah, email me, I'll send you the information. Thank you very much. Sounds like code. Well, I'm trying to think what the Metaverse Mod Squad story is? I remember reading the book, I just don't know if I recall the Mod Squad. Sir Craig Allen Harms goes into the associate executive producer category 26844 from Wichita, Kansas. It's not a mistake 3 F that twit donations from a no agenda night sir, ka I grew up watching Leo and his teenager and finally listen to an episode of no agenda early 2012 And I was immediately hooked. I have since become a knight of the roundtable on a true believer in the value for value mile now only watch Twit when John was on apparently never be watch it again Which is disappointing but I guess the only thing I will really miss is Leo accidentally showing screenshots Then he goes on some I was dick

1:10:04 So sad to see someone I looked up to and then there's no more nothing else on this thing. Anyway, thanks Craig. Sir David or David? Sir David is it sir David? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, David Hutchinson in Conifer Colorado should have been at the meetup 23694 Time to show your support for TBP CITU, the best podcast in the universe. I can't describe how good your outstanding deconstruction of bogus media stories really is. It's simply something that has to be experienced over and over again to truly appreciate the hard work you two guys are doing. It's phenomenal and I thank you both for

1:10:44 for your courage. Keep up the good work! 73s, 5N5XL73s KJ5 LNG Conover Colorado I think you're KJ6 KF5 SOMS Did i say KJ5? You said yeah 7 3's and we clearly have an imposter on the frequency Ditto! You may read the next part on the air or not as you see fit The donation amount of 23694 is the sum of 27373 donations One for Adam, one for John. To show support for the fellow amateur radio operators doing good work and the addition of an 8948 donation specifically for John no need to explain further onward! Okay? Yep Onward indeed. Onward Which means onward. Sir Pablo The Squirrel like from Sir Pablo The Squirrel from Wellington New Zealand 23456

1:11:38 I have 20 years in dude name security and government and have been shouting at the media every time i hear one of these Hillary stories. Adam finally said what I was shouting, information is classified by its nature." Boom shakalaka! There's a whole classification system that describes what information should be classified. Labeling just helps everybody make quick decision it's not the main thing in other words. I also wanted to donate because there was a squirrel on the show art for 754 but then it was about eating squirrels

1:12:18 regards San Pablo the squirrel. Alright, well... Sir Pablo the Squirrel. Squirrel! Dingo! Boom boom chaga laga laka boom boom boom boom boom chaga laga boom boom I'll give him some karma You've got karma Zander Walachia in Budapest Hungary 21229 Bless me pot fathers for I have douched. I've been listening to the show since episode 488 yet this is my first donation! I've taken one part 3333 and sandwiched it between two helpings of 8948 for a total of 21229 if you don't mind, it's been a long time coming so I can use the de-douching. I will do right now You've been de-douched

1:13:05 I discovered the best podcast in the world through John's frequent appearances on The Leo Show. I've noticed the appearances on that show have been scarce of late, so I'm not at all surprised by the dust up. The incident and tell-all newsletter has motivated me...the newsletter being an outstanding product has motivated me to become a producer and stand behind a product I truly believe in. This show has helped me become an independent critical thinker And for that, I'm extremely grateful to both of you. Oh, it's so nice! Yes... Uhh..I've been Doing my part in hitting people friends in the mouth time for them to step up and provide value for value instead of just Consuming the gauntlet has been thrown. Please give a douchebag shout out to team shark horse My favorite jingle is the mac and cheese duo I've missed the last few episodes, so there's a new jingle please play one of those as well Do you hear miles ridiculing myself?

1:14:05 Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. Kyle Clanny is our final, last but not least associate executive producer from Fort Collins Colorado $200 to Adam this is Kyle who you met at the Boulder meetup I apologize for not giving a donation during the meetup in an envelope yeah but I wanted to still contribute while you were on The Love Laundry Tour I really enjoyed meeting you and Tina the Keeper. Hillary, it's almost too delicious to believe and a hot pockets jingle combo. Please take care and travel safe in the air stream of consciousness. Now I see didn't I? I'll use the one you want to be to shorten up that's probably better

1:15:11 Right? Okay. Yeah! Get out of my vagina!! It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!!! You've got karma. This will be the last show for this leg of the tour. The next tour, I believe will be a West Coast which you have not done yet and we'll do that when it's nice and chilly on the East Coast Yeah well head to Palm Springs You sound so overjoyed! You sound so happy

1:16:07 Yeah. Thank you all very much, this has been great support thank you for showing your support for John I hate it when the elderly are pestered It really sucks so... These are real credits. You can use them anywhere credits are accepted, and if not we'll be happy to vouch for you And please remember we are doing a show on Thursday Devorac.org slash N-A And I'm looking at you brand new producer here in Salt Lake City! You gotta go out there propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out...We hit people in the mouth Hey citizens SHUT UP! Alrighty then

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Volkswagen Emissions Scandal, Diesel Market Shift

The discovery of Volkswagen's emissions-cheating software has caused a major crisis for the German automotive industry. Reports suggest that the demand for diesel cars in Europe was already slowing due to concerns over sulfur emissions and nitrogen oxide (NOx). The mayor of Paris has announced plans to ban diesel engines by 2020, signaling a broader strategic shift in European transportation policy.

volkswagen· diesel· emissions· germany· pollution

1:16:58 Let me lead us into this. I'm very curious to hear your clips, the Volkswagen Discovery which really man you know...I'm getting so many emails from Germany about how disastrous this really is. This is going to put Germany in a recession is the general thinking But there's something much bigger going on. This will be my leading clip and I want you to take it over, John. The demand growth for diesel slowed down and demand growth for gasoline started to increase a little bit globally And what is interesting is that was against the narrative that quite a lot of people expected In 2014 diesel cars made up more than half of passenger fleet sales in Europe

1:17:40 But concerns over diesel's clean credentials have grown recently, particularly over its higher sulfur emissions. Quite a lot of European carmakers were focused on diesel because that has been the fuel of choice. European governments have given diesels many benefits in terms of tax treatments so for European carmakers it could be a change if this does feed through into the consumer side and consumers start choosing more gasoline cars as a result of this The tide of opinion had already started to turn on the continent. The mayor of Paris announcing plans to ban diesel engines in the French capital by 2020 as part of a plan to fight pollution, with other European countries beginning to rethink incentives such as tax breaks

1:18:23 The European Parliament voted Wednesday to tighten pollution rules. Car makers in the block could be forced into a strategic U-turn if demand for diesel completely stalls Now before we get into your clips and your analysis, from what I understand the whistleblower on this was some Silicon Valley electric car company strategy consultancy who were probably thinking oh this would be great! We can screw everybody they all go buy electric cars But I think that... I like the idea that was going on, but it seems much larger. It seems much, much larger. Well there's an element that was completely... where'd you get that clip? That is from Reuters. That clip let...it's a great clip because it just shows you the manipulation of the media in a big way because that clip left out the most important element of the story

CHAPTER 26 / 58 Discussion

European Diesel Policy History, Global Warming Solution

In the 1990s, European policymakers promoted diesel fuel as a solution to global warming because it produces fewer CO2 emissions than gasoline. This policy was supported by the European car industry but ignored warnings about nitrogen oxide and particulate matter. Experts now describe the focus on CO2 over air quality as one of the EU's most significant policy mistakes.

european commission· co2 emissions· diesel fuel· global warming· air quality

1:19:23 Now, let's...we might as well do a whole history. The long clip I have here for starters. I have the three clips but this is the long history great clip it says and this is the bomb has dropped in here now just only people that covered this was BBC Newsweek there were news or whatever that things they play once a week and they were adamant about pointing the problem out why are all these diesel cars being manufactured, why are all these diesel cars? And I'll give a little air pollution information at the end about these cars. Well it wasn't diesel-fueled in Europe certainly. It was supposed to be you know the solution to everything No! Oh... It was not the solution to everything and when you can play the clip right after i say this it was the solution to global warming The change started in the oil refining industry

1:20:14 A barrel of oil produces about 19 gallons of petrol, but as a by-product it also yields about 12 gallons of diesel fuel. Once that diesel fuel was mainly used in oil fired power stations but as Europe shifted away from them the market was over supplied with diesel lowering its cost as a car fuel. Policy makers embraced it. Diesel produces fewer CO2 carbon emissions than petrol and a series of European Commission regulations in the early 90's favoured Then in the late 90s, taxes on diesel vehicles were cut. More diesel was seen as a way to cut back on CO2

1:20:50 On one level, what happened in the European car market in the 90s and 2000's was a huge public policy success. Policymakers wanted consumers to buy more diesel cars and by working with underlying economics changing taxes and tweaking regulations they turbocharged a trend More people now drive diesel cars That has brought down CO2 emissions but it has come at a cost And people are looking back asking did they make the right decision? The preference for diesel and a CO2 focused emission standard was the worst policy mistake in the EU of the 1990s and 2000's. And we're going to live with the consequences for a long time

1:21:32 The Japanese and the Americans sensibly listened to the experts who said diesel is dirty because of nitrous oxide and particulate emissions. The European Commission listened to the industry, the European industry which wanted diesel for marketing reasons It's high time the authorities clamp down on diesel lorries belching smoke and smell. We've known for a long time that diesel can be dirty, but in the 90s the focus was firmly on CO2 not air quality as diesels market share has risen so too is air pollution Okay good backgrounder I didn't realize it was the solution to global warming Yeah another one of these failed policies because people are clueless

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Nitrogen Oxide Pollution, Catalytic Converter Limitations

Nitrogen oxide (NOx) is a primary contributor to smog and respiratory issues, particularly in urban basins like Los Angeles. While gasoline cars use catalytic converters to remove NOx, diesel engines produce high levels of soot that can clog these systems. The technical challenges of cleaning diesel exhaust have led to the current regulatory crisis facing manufacturers like Volkswagen.

nitrogen oxide· smog· catalytic converters· diesel soot· air pollution

1:22:21 Yeah, and also NOx. Is that nitrous oxide? And let me explain this a little bit... This is the substance that causes air pollution photo reactive air pollution that gets in the air, it gets into a bowl area like Los Angeles basin. And it creates smog. The sun pounds on and turns brown which is a perversion of the gas. It's not pretty. Gas is nitric acid... horrible for you and it's terrible stuff. And it's true air pollution now we have been told of course that the CO2 somehow is air pollution, which is not... It's carbon pollution! Carbon pollution! Right, carbon pollution is not air pollution this is

1:23:06 This is the bad stuff and you can smell it on a lot of cars when it goes by. I'm very sensitive to myself now this nitric NOx comes in regular, comes out of regular gas pipes too but most gasoline cars have a catalytic converter that's what its there for The catalytic converter that's between the muffler and... Yeah, it removes the NOx. It sucks the NOx out. It has got platinum in it. Now why you can't just put a catalytic converter on a diesel car I believe and I don't know this and I'm looking into it. And I think its performance issue of the pressure of the exhaust is much more exact? I think you can deal with that. I think the problem is there so much soot

1:23:50 the particulate in diesel exhaust that it clogs the catalytic converter and doesn't allow it to work. Okay, that's my belief. I that's just off the top of my head I don't know what the deal is because it would seem to me you could dream up some sort of catalytic converter Retrofit all these diesel engines with that and that would solve the problem That they're having because they we're gonna have to remove these engines or something We don't know what's gonna go on I said III'm even seeing on the airstream forums people freaking out because they bought You know they bought a Volkswagen to drag their Airstream around like, oh, now I'm gonna get the switch back and I won't be able to drag as much weight. And the people...the consumers are very, very worried about this. Yeah. Now here's the kicker and this is the thing that got me on this story because of something you said with this about the...

CHAPTER 28 / 58 Discussion

Volkswagen Scandal Foreknowledge, 2014 BBC Report

Evidence suggests that the Volkswagen emissions "secret" was known as early as December 2014, when BBC's Newsnight reported on cars detecting test cycles. The hosts question why the story only gained international traction months later, suggesting the timing may be linked to geopolitical pressures on Germany. The scandal is framed as a significant blow to the "Made in Germany" quality brand.

volkswagen· bbc newsnight· emissions testing· whistleblowers· germany

1:24:46 About this being why now you ask on the line. Well my my initial just retract retread My initial reaction was okay, Germany is Saying oh we'll bring in all the all the good Syrians We're gonna be come on in they have effectively opened up the gates for all of Europe for these migrants To be trudging through on their way to Germany Let's face it that Germans yeah people hate the Germans so let's screw with the Germans and Well, I still don't...I can't prove that but i can prove one thing. This scam was known about in 2014 Wait a minute! Wait a minute You're telling me that this is the this was already known? Play Diesel Scam Known In 2014

1:25:33 I feel like a drumroll before this. Software and some of its cars to cheat US emissions tests, well apparently this particular dirty little secret was not so secret after all here's a clip from Newsnight from December last year when our technology editor David Grossman reported on car companies enhancing their test results the car is actually able to detect that it's being tested. What? Because it's on a standard test cycle and they can use that to put the car into a mode in which the engine is ultra-efficient or, to reduce the sort of pollution that's coming out of the exhaust pipe during the test Wait wait wait wait The car knows its being tested and therefore will perform in a completely atypical way Yeah

1:26:23 Huh, now where- this was from BBC? Again the Newsnight's the show I keep saying news night. Yeah. This is from the BBC News Night December 2014 all revealed that this came up Okay okay So what why does nobody do anything for what nine six nine month nine months you know Why because they were all waiting for me to find the clip of the day jingle That's why God, you kidding me? So of course if something like that doesn't get any traction and you could surely see why Volkswagen or Audi this all the same company would want to suppress that but the news media had nothing to gain. And now they have something again by effing Germany like screw the Germans just screw them up and I think it's a big FU to Europe too. You know how many companies

CHAPTER 29 / 58 Discussion

Economic Impact on Germany, EU Migration Crisis

The Volkswagen scandal threatens to push Germany into a recession, complicating the country's efforts to integrate Syrian refugees into its workforce. With 11 million vehicles affected worldwide, the financial and reputational damage is expected to be massive. The hosts argue that the crisis serves as a "death knell" for the current economic stability of the European Union.

volkswagen· germany· recession· syrian refugees· european union

1:27:14 rely on pieces of the... Think of the American automotive industry. We had to bail them, we had to save them that's how important it was. Yeah no this is massive massive so let's finish do these diesel in the EU final this is a bunch of guys at the roundtable on news night just discussing it a little bit more and emphasizing things a little bit more so you can walk away with something that think about You have drawn a lot of attention to how bad air is in some cities. Did Europe make a mistake in pursuing diesel? Well, it's easy to say we did with hindsight at the time

1:27:50 Primacy of policy was climate change. It was it was the big unsolved problem The reason we went for diesel was because we thought the regulations would work The regulations were going to become increasingly stringent We thought they would work and reduce emissions with hindsight It's turned out that that was a mistake But they didn't and it is it is it correct to say that as a result of that mistake thousands of people have died In broad terms, we can say yes. I wouldn't like to put a figure on it but it's probably fairly large and its statistical association you know as we say you don't see died of air pollution on the death certificate but there is strong evidence case for the association between these pollutants and premature deaths. We're all gonna die! Ahhhh... The Germans have killed people? Surprised with gas.

1:28:42 Good work. Oh man, oh no! Well just to give you... I have two short clips here just to give you the scale but i just want to say that you will note and American media will never bring this climate change thing up Yeah why not? Because there would have to be all in on climate change This is the scam of it all. Oh god, this is like a negative thing that happened when we tried to do something about climate change! Just shut up about it!" For Volkswagen's US boss the timing couldn't have been worse A growing scandal coinciding with a launch that has been scheduled for months. What was the launch? Whatever it was, it didn't launch

1:29:25 So the timing is being a diesel car with this could be in the US. I have no idea, but this is also industrial espionage brings up all kinds of thoughts like hey they were about to announce something big oh now let's screw them was something that was known for over a year Despite the confession, authorities are not easing up. After a US probe found VW was cheating emissions tests on its diesel vehicles like... Yeah it wasn't- It wasn't a probe! It was whistleblowers from Silicon Valley who were all in on battery cars! The Jetta Investigations have now begun in South Korea and Germany There are even calls for an EU wide inquiry EGC's Mike Ingram says it won't just hurt VW but Europe too One of the reasons why Germany continues to do well

1:30:10 as an exporter is that the consumers of their products tend to be quite price-insensitive and implicit in that is that they're buying quality. And again, the Barclay VW puts a question mark against that." As well as criminal charges in the US Volkswagen could face an 18 billion dollar fine ICF Coors Market trader Arthur Brunner. There's considerable doubt about this in the market because the events at Volkswagen will have consequences We expect some changes in the leadership and so the uncertainty is fairly big. VW shares slid to a three-year low in early trading while Monday's mauling wiped 15 billion dollars from its market valuation Then we already have things happening around the EU Switzerland says it is suspending sales of Volkswagen diesel vehicles that could contain devices capable of cheating emissions tests, and the latest fallout from the VW emissions fraud scandal

1:31:10 This after the carmaker said 11 million vehicles worldwide were fitted with software similar to the kind that allowed the company to rig U.S emissions tests Can you imagine John, so here's what the policy is Give us all your weary, your meek, your people on the boats. Give us all the Syrians we're gonna put them in the factories We're going to give them a living wage they are all gonna be okay This is fabulous come to Germany and then oh I'm sorry...we have to downsize our biggest industry Because no one wants to buy our cars anymore. This is the death knell for the EU! This is like, this is like one big... Nothing to laugh about Well it's kind of humorous But you've blown my mind to such a degree that this was on the BBC a year ago This was known and yet now? Now the timing is... You gotta help me what happened

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Industrial Espionage Suspicions, BMW Emissions Allegations

Suspicions of industrial espionage have emerged following reports that BMW may have employed similar emissions-cheating tactics. The hosts discuss the possibility that Silicon Valley electric car interests may have played a role in exposing the German manufacturers. The segment also notes the widespread use of diesel in European taxi fleets and the potential for further investigations into Mercedes-Benz.

bmw· volkswagen· industrial espionage· climate change· mercedes-benz

1:32:06 I don't know. I have no idea, thank you for your help! I was thinking of your original thesis it was now's the time to pull the plug yeah but who? Somebody saw that earlier report and just...I don't know Whoever it is, is an evil person because they're going to ruin everything for everyone. But you know the thing I got was there were already reports about BMW having similar issues? I think all these diesels are like... No, no! BMW's also on the block now. I have a report in the show notes saying, well looks like BMW employed similar tactics You know what?! These Germans man! The only way we could pass this test! I think we need to bring the climate change thing back in because then we could blame climate change on Germany

1:32:49 Yeah, let's do that. I mean if anybody has driven it when I was in this is a couple years ago but i was in Sweden and at the Volvo plant and they have these little diesel cars they have a whole bunch of them...I wanted to get one but they won't let him in the country because I don't think they have cheated enough But they had it and they have this little test track you can get into these different cars They had a whole line of them so you get to drive all of them right and so he getting these little diesels This thing's go like bat out of hell. Yeah, it was astonishing to me how much poop day I mean there were like it was no different than the gas car right now The turbo diesels are phenomenal yeah They go really fast until you're driving around like a maniac And then you find well they're not allowed in the United States You can't do this you can't do that because I guess Volvo didn't have this software

1:33:36 That everyone else was using yeah, this is well I think things will become apparent. All I know is, I keep watching the footage of all those gray-haired German dudes who are like sitting at some announcement with the guys doing this big mea culpa and they just all look so worried man. They look like they're going to shit themselves. Very worried. This is not something that's gonna blow over? It's not and it... The implications for industry in Germany in general It's huge, 11 million cars and it could be more. Probably more. If you remember anything we ever discussed on this show the early estimate numbers

1:34:17 On every issue, whatever it is. Whether it's the OPM break-in where they say oh there are only a million people now and before that was eight and now all these fingerprints... Five million fingerprints all stored on the same server! It's a brilliant security move And so all of that, you know it's always bigger So 11 million is the first shot at the number. It's gonna be 20 Yeah I think you're right An Audi, my favorite car. By the way I will say this as an ex-air pollution guy... Knox is the worst! It's not allowed! No, Knox is bad mojo. If you see anyone driving in a Volkswagen or specifically an Audi it's certainly the A8 You should egg that car. Egg that car because they're killing you with Knox. Docks the Knox! Anyway so there we have it and then that'll be a continuing story probably for the rest of the year

1:35:13 Yeah, it's fantastic. And you watch the economists are... Every single story I found had quotes from people on trading floors, financial people who were like no one knows what to do. Volkswagen is not saying how they're going to address the problem. There's a lot of uncertainty and markets don't like uncertainty but this will close down business and who's buying a lot of these cars? The Russians! You know, this is a...wait until Mercedes. The Mercedes has diesel still right? They've got a big... Howard Baetjer But Mercedes diesels yeah. I don't know if they have diesel. Frank Curzio All taxi cabs are Mercedes diesel at this point in Europe. Howard Baetjer Well the diesel and kind of the environmentally conscious might have diesels here although generally California drive Priuses. Frank Curzio Well California has all kinds of issues with diesel. They were foreboding to be sold at certain point

CHAPTER 31 / 58 Discussion

Moby on Climate Change, Animal Agriculture

Musician Moby released a public service announcement claiming that animal agriculture is responsible for 25% of global climate emissions. He argues that adopting a vegan diet is the most effective way to combat rising sea levels and global warming. The hosts satirize Moby's script, suggesting his rhetoric implies an extreme stance against all animal life.

moby· climate change· veganism· animal agriculture· united nations

1:36:11 Yeah, well I'm sure they're doubled up on that. Well while we're on the climate change John I know you're a big fan of Moby. I know you're all into his music and trance and you like a lot of that stuff... And i'm not kidding right? Not Moby so much. You don't like Moby? It's okay... Well, you're gonna hate him after you hear this and this is a script he's reading which only becomes apparent at the end but while you-while you're listening to him and actually you can find the clip in the show notes It is a script and he has the solution for for global warming which of course is the most important problem of our time from my perspective every other issue that we care about whether it's education They all pale in comparison to climate change because if the world's Walter climate if the climate heats up and sea levels rise Every other issue. We care about

1:37:06 falls by the wayside. And from my perspective, one of the easiest ways to address climate change is animal agriculture because animal agriculture according to United Nations is responsible for at least 25% of climate emissions If magically everyone on the planet stopped using animals for food, climate change would be decreased by 25 percent immediately To put it in perspective, animal agriculture is responsible for more climate gases than every car, bus, boat, truck, airplane and motorcycle combined. I choose to be a vegan. I'm not saying you necessarily choose that, but we need to understand that animal agriculture would be one of the easiest possible ways of dealing with climate change so... I'm Moby here in Washington DC thank you for listening. Why don't you just go all the way and let's get it over with? Let's kill all animals! I think he is kind of eluding to that Kill all animals! Kill all animals! And i think we should start with kittens

CHAPTER 32 / 58 Discussion

EU Migrant Policy, Donald Tusk Statements

European Council President Donald Tusk called for a correction of the "open doors" policy, warning that the largest wave of refugees is yet to arrive. While German Chancellor Angela Merkel appeared to support new tighter controls, French President François Hollande urged the U.S. and Canada to take in more migrants. The shift in rhetoric indicates a growing consensus within the EU to secure external borders.

donald tusk· angela merkel· migrants· refugees· european council

1:38:10 Kill all kittens! Moby said so. Bastards. By the way, you did talk about rising sea levels let me just take a look Yeah how are the mudflats doing? They're still there Oh very good There's a freeway by the way running alongside the mud flats I believe it to be at zero...at sea level zero and i don't see any water wafting across I want to stick in the EU for a moment because, of course, the migrant crisis continues. And I will remind everybody they're called migrants because call them refugees and then you have a whole different status UN agreements that Geneva Convention people have the right to seek asylum but if you keep calling them migrants than yeah you can just kick him out or not let him come in early don't take an airplane take a boat

1:38:58 But the EU now has a plan. Oh, thank goodness! European Council President Donald Tusk says the measures include much closer cooperation and tighter controls. Now listen carefully what Tusk says... It is clear that the greatest tide of refugees and migrants is yet to come, therefore we need to correct the policy of open doors and windows This is very important what he's saying! We need to correct the policy because the big wave has still yet to come this is just little it's like the kiddie pool

1:39:47 Wait until we get into the deep end of migration. We need to close the doors and close the open windows. Puh, sounds damn friendly to me! German Chancellor Angela Merkel whose government's been accused by some EU states are fueling the migrant influx also appeared content with the measures. The German government supports the European Commission's proposals this means this is a first step but we are still far from where we need to be French President François Hollande wants other countries beyond the EU to take on a greater role. If Europe is a collective founded on values and principles, there are other countries – the United States and Canada which also have to do their bit." So there it is! Screw Germany! Yeah they brought it on. Germany has to suffer

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UN Celebrity Advocacy, Shakira on Refugee Crisis

The United Nations is utilizing celebrities like Shakira to advocate for a "just exit" to the humanitarian crisis in Syria. The hosts analyze Shakira's speech as a scripted effort to build public support for the removal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. They argue that celebrity spokespeople are being used to humanize complex geopolitical agendas for a viral audience.

shakira· united nations· refugee crisis· bashar al-assad· propaganda

1:40:40 Well, that's going to happen for sure. They have suffering in their future over at the United Nations this is you know there the United Nations has UN web TV something like that and they have an RSS feed so I've been yeah I subscribe to it on Fodder a lot it's a lot of crap ass video to sit through But they've been doing this thing lately where they're bringing in celebrities. You got Michael Douglas, you know there's just one after another and I think their whole plan of attack is bring in as many celebrities as we can until someone strikes a chord and then that goes viral which clearly is not happening

1:41:18 But here's an example, this is Shakira who will endorse anything for money. Teeth whitener...walk into a Walgreens or you'll see Shakira she will promote anything for money and honestly if I were the UN I'd invite her over too! She's hot! It is without a doubt one of the greatest humanitarian crisis of our time. Now, of course she's reading as a good celebrity spokeshole will do and... Wait wait you're not going to give us a clue as to what she is talking about? She is talking about migrants the refugee crisis Oh migrants okay I'll start over so yes Of course this is a block This is a package A package of clips It is without a doubt one of the greatest humanitarian crisis of our time

1:42:09 And the image of that little boy washed up on the shore is a tragic one and one that we shouldn't ignore and shouldn't forget. But it should, and it should humanize the plight of the refugees." This is a script that has been written by someone who's frustrated that the little boy thing — yeah, short-lived life fizzled out kind of quick. I mean, didn't really do anything because we all know ultimately who was responsible for this right? Putin well a putin Assad and Assad is the guy who has to go. That's the reason that little boy was yes And and listen to her final words in this script because children should not pay the price of war Because all of us have a responsibility today, and we cannot escape it

1:43:00 not the leaders of the world and not us as civil society. We need to come together, and we need to demand a just exit to this humanitarian crisis. A just exit to this humanitarian crisis? Hello! That means one thing and one thing only. Assad, a just exit for Assad This is so obvious they're giving these stupid celebrities these scripts Listen to this little kicker at the end here when she's done And then she's posing for the cameras and the photographers are telling her how to turn and how to twist Yeah front okay good yeah great thank you Good work! Here's your check

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Bashar al-Assad Interview, Russian Military Intervention

In a recent interview, Bashar al-Assad accused Western nations of hypocrisy for funding "moderate" terrorists while lamenting the resulting refugee crisis. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin has confirmed that Russia will continue to supply weapons to Syria and take direct action against ISIS. The hosts suggest that Russia's intervention is a direct challenge to the U.S.-led coalition's strategy in the region.

bashar al-assad· vladimir putin· syria· isis· russian military

1:43:49 Now, luckily Assad was interviewed by... Was this a German outfit? No. I can't remember who this was and Assad explains exactly what is going on in 20 seconds. So he says, hypocrites. You're crying about the refugees with one eye, but you're aiming at them with a machine gun with the other because the people are fleeing the terrorists i.e., the moderates that the United States and Britain and France in the coalition have funded along with Saudi Arabia Bingo boom shakalaka

1:44:42 Well, things could change quickly if the Russians which are loading up in there just decided police state the whole area and say no no more. I think Putin has an interesting tactic and he's been very clear. Audio is not usable but I did put a clip in the show notes you can see him with translated subtitles saying yeah we've always supplied weapons to Syria going to continue to do that and we're going to go in and kick the terrorist ass! We're going to get ISIS And Putin is calling on an international coalition, which President Obama does not like at all because he's supposed to be leading the coalition. And Putin saying hey you know what we're gonna get rid of ISIS! We are gonna do it! We're stepping in and we're gonna go kick ISIS ass!

1:45:30 That message is going to come through. Eventually the media will not be able to get around it and we'll say, okay here's what Putin... But the media is ignoring this Yeah but this exactly what he's doing No then Putin can do it And there's precedent He is.. they are allies So what is he supposed to do? Just stand by idly Exactly so that we have no real excuse Now I was watching a lot of Chinese TV And there was an interesting crawler. They had a bunch of interesting stuff underneath their news coverage One of the things is that you is that Ukraine is asking to become a member of NATO Mm-hmm surprise you heard that anymore I'm not recently no, it's apparently happening as we speak which has got a gall to Russians uh So I was following the China

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China-US Tech Deals, Xi Jinping Visit

During President Xi Jinping's visit to the United States, several major tech deals were announced, including Microsoft making Baidu the default search engine in China. Cisco and LinkedIn also entered into joint ventures with Chinese partners to expand their market presence. The segment explores the tension between these business alliances and ongoing concerns about state-sponsored hacking.

xi jinping· microsoft· baidu· cisco· linkedin

1:46:27 She came over here, and they had a big fancy dinner. Yeah, and with Obama Yes There was a bunch of meetings in Seattle we talked about the other show They had a closed-door meeting even that a closed door meeting you know what they're discussing there how? Obama and Zee and the Pope are going to announce the existence of Planet X You wait Well, you go off in that direction. I did do an interesting...I did catch something interesting First of all we can preface it with by playing the clip even though it's a useless clip now they think about it But it's kind of interesting this is tech deals with China that was on the CC Chinese television and internet companies

1:47:11 And there were some alliances announced. Microsoft said it would make Baidu the default search engine in its new Windows 10 operating system in China, replacing its Bing service Cisco, the networking equipment producer, announced a joint venture with Chinese server producer Inspire While the business networking site LinkedIn and ride-hailing app Didi Kuaidi said they would cooperate in artificial intelligence to create new market opportunities. Do you want do you want if...do you want to get into some tech news?

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XcodeGhost Malware, CIA Development Tools

A major security breach known as "XcodeGhost" infected dozens of iOS apps by compromising the Xcode development tools used by programmers. The malware, which affected popular apps like WeChat, is capable of harvesting user data and sending it to remote servers. The hosts note that the CIA demonstrated similar techniques for infecting development tools at a secret conference in 2012.

xcodeghost· apple· malware· cia· cybersecurity

1:47:46 Yeah, let's do some little tech new well before yeah, that's the only good phones a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite That does not suck up like Tech Hornies. Hey Apple hail apple hail apple well while we're on hail Apple I don't hear a lot of the Tech Horny talking much about this seemingly simple hack that took place in China where malware was baked into a copy of Xcode, or what is being... I guess the malware's called Xcode Ghost and it has infected

1:48:32 So far today, we know 39 of the iOS apps which are supposed to be entirely safe and Apple takes care of you and they check everything. Because Apple checks everything And this it includes WeChat which of course a lot of people in the US use as well as the Chinas But the one that tickled me is perfect 365 That's the selfie app that allows you to make yourself look beautiful with makeup and make your eyes bigger and change your entire face. That thing must be loaded on millions of phones. Yes, millions! And what this malware does is it takes your information... all of it

1:49:14 And shoots it off to some control and command server, and I guess they're gonna use it for its Wow nice tractor dude. I guess they're gonna use it at some later day But this is a huge You know What do you call it slap in the face? Yeah? Well yes breach that's what slap slap in the face for Apple not a lot of color was talking about it But you know what's interesting This is exactly the same way the CIA deployed malware in the past by putting it into the development tools. So knowing that mainly apps that are used by Chinese users were affected by this, I'm thinking maybe this was a CIA op on Apple to get into the Chinese phones."

1:50:07 You have to remember that the Apple, the Apple refused to cooperate. We from now on we call it The Apple. The apple has refused to cooperate with the government. Hail the apple! And this has become a... Yes yeah Apple's always said we're not gonna let you in we're not gonna let you in no back doors go away were encrypting everything and now they're in and Let me see what I mean look back at history I think they did an Xcode, it was also with Xcode. I think the CIA did this Xcode trick already in 2012. Here it is...

1:50:48 Although Xcode goes to the first malware to spread this way in the wild, the techniques it uses were previously developed and demonstrated by Central Intelligence Agency researchers at the CIA's annual top-secret Jamboree conference in 2012. They're handing out merit badges to the CIA? Woo! Jamboree everybody using documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, Jeremy Scahill described the CIA's Xcode project in a story published in March. So this is, you know just Occam's razor I think the CIA did this. Well they can do it and It's interesting that this happens at this moment in time and we had cyber security hearings on The Hill pretty much Admiral Mike Rogers saying

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NSA Workforce Morale, Intelligence Career Advice

Admiral Mike Rogers acknowledged that increased internal monitoring at the NSA has negatively impacted employee morale. In a related anecdote, an intelligence community contact advised against learning Arabic, as it leads to difficult assignments in the Middle East. Instead, learning Mandarin is recommended for those seeking more strategic roles within the modern intelligence landscape.

nsa· admiral mike rogers· arabic· mandarin· intelligence community

1:51:39 I have to rip the whole thing apart. I don't know how to do it." But what is bad, is that no one wants to work at NSA anymore because they've changed the policy and now they're spying on every single employee. That often can provoke a strong reaction from the workforce who says so let me understand this because of the actions of one individual you are now monitoring me You're not watching my behavior in a way that you didn't initially do before Hey, do I want to work in a place like that? No. Well, I have a little insight on this at a recent meeting with our economic hit man who was very connected in the intelligence community appears...I didn't know how much connected until we had this chat but is so you actually left the house

1:52:29 I do leave the house once in a while when it's something important. Okay, gotcha. Like when the flag is up on the box. Now, do you have to be holding a copy of The New York Times? To go to Berkeley? To meet him? Do you have to have a carnation in your buttonhole? So If you sit on a bench back-to-back and talk to each other, how does that work? It's at the stage set the stage so he says his son and daughter I guess especially his sons been Soliciting college and he's been solicited by the agency And he there was a couple of things first of all His Russian girlfriend that has been keeping him from listening in the show and helping us not really a Russian But she seems she speaks perfect Russian. She has red hair. Well, do we see is she hot?

1:53:16 How should I know? You can't send pictures around. Fold one into the newspaper. Did he give you a manila envelope with stuff in it? No, I didn't get the manila envelope. So she... they finally broke up because she was spending too much time together. She was hurting the show! Well, he told me a few other little tidbits which is why I wanted to bring this in since you brought up NSA. First of all his son decided that he wants to learn Arabic. Yeah. Thinking it's a good idea and some possible job thing. She was still with him and she just scolded him apparently not to learn Arabic ever! Why? If you're gonna work in intelligence...why?!

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Admiral Mike Rogers Testimony, Hillary Clinton Emails

During a congressional hearing, Admiral Mike Rogers was questioned about the security implications of Hillary Clinton's private email server. Rogers stated that from a foreign intelligence perspective, such a server represents a significant "opportunity" for adversaries. He was asked to check NSA records for any communications between agency officials and Clinton's private account.

admiral mike rogers· hillary clinton· private server· nsa· cybersecurity

1:54:00 I'm glad you asked. Yes! Because you learn Arabic, you are immediately pigeonholed and you get these horrible assignments in the Middle East living in mud huts. Sand... And you can't get out of it! Great So, don't learn Arabic. This is for people...no agenda listeners who want to join an intelligence agency. It's a couple of tips. You should learn Chinese. Chinese Mandarin that's much better. Yeah, Chinese would be great because we're in China. Admiral Rogers was asked about Hillary Clinton's email server and I thought that was interesting because the questions were good And I think, believe it all fits in tech news because we do have our dudes named Ben and they understand how these things work. What would be your response if the current Secretary of State or another cabinet member came to you and said Admiral Rogers i'd like to set up a private non-governmental server and use that to conduct official business? Uh...I would say uh is going to run Linux Or are you gonna run Exchange Server You really wanna drag me into this? Yes By the way have you seen this Rogers guy he looks like he's dead

1:55:03 He looks like a ghost. Guy does not look healthy, very very... And he's also the commander of the US Cyber Command and director of NSA. I'd simply like your professional opinion. My comment would be you need to ensure that you're complying with applicable regulations and structures for your department. I'll be the first to admit it, I'm not smart about what the rules are for every element across the federal government. Are the communications of the senior most advisors to the President United States even those that may be unclassified a top priority for Federal foreign intelligence services in your opinion? Yes

1:55:43 If an NSA employee came to you and said, hey boss we have reason to believe that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov or Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif is conducting official business on a private server. How would you respond? From a foreign intelligence perspective that represents opportunity. Yeah we know that. Are you aware of any NSA... Hold on hold on hold on hold on. No I'm not done. That was a kicker. Roll it back a second Are you aware of any NSA officials who emailed Secretary Clinton at her private account? No, I have no knowledge. I apologize... Are you aware of any NSA officials who were aware that Secretary Clinton had a private email account and server? Boy now you're talking about something before my time Senator. I apologize. I just don't know the answer Could ask could I ask you to check your records? Yes sir. And respond back to us in writing please Wow! Is it good point this

1:56:37 Because this guy, who is this senator? He's really going after it. Yeah I'll look it up for you. They were worried sick about Hillary getting in because she's gonna kick ass and take names later And most importantly You've got to think of all the internet traffic that is being spoofed and sniffed and looked at. Of course NSA has this, this has always been the joke, oh just ask NSA they've got a backup now someone finally asked NSA are you aware of any emails coming from this private server? Uh before my time yeah but could you please check that I think he actually says that's a great record for the question

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Facebook RSS Integration, International Daughters Day

Facebook has announced it will use RSS technology for its "Instant Articles," a move that could potentially open up its "walled garden" ecosystem. In other social media news, the hosts critique the viral spread of "International Daughters Day," characterizing it as a form of "moral self-licensing" for parents. They discuss the ease with which artificial holidays can gain traction on platforms like Facebook.

facebook· rss· instant articles· social media· daughters day

1:57:18 So, there will be a record and of course they're going to find that. I think what was it recently? That there was some unfound email chain with oh God with General Petraeus about Benghazi could it get any better for this woman? Oh yeah this is gonna be great! I don't know how they are gonna manage this... I love it! Got some interesting news about Facebook. They'll be using RSS for their instant articles this could potentially be good news This would be a break in the walled garden not that it will make Facebook any more pleasant to visit but still what? Facebook will be using RSS technology for its instant articles meaning you will be able to publish from Facebook and ingest into Facebook

1:58:09 That's interesting. Yeah, that's breaking the walled garden I think it's a bold move honestly Well the thumbs down thing was the big screw up Did that even get deployed? How would you know? Why am i asking you? This fits in with the face page and tech news So this is how sad it is We're doing this 6 hours to Salt Lake City And we get the connectivity pretty much the minute we're out of the park, we get connectivity. Then the first thing that comes through is a... Oh hold on a second there's a message from John. That newsletter please read and he always asked me to, you always send me the draft so I can look for style and spelling or stuff like that. Or if you want something to add? Yeah if I wanna add something So I'm driving! This is an 80 mile per hour highway this is nice. I'm driving and then Tina The Keeper was like well we'll do this together. Of course she really did all the edits

1:59:06 And then apparently you had a whole follow-up email conversation with her. Yeah, yeah Okay Just so you know So I know what just say now? I know what you're doing What if your trolling trolling for why crazy ass pictures you can use for the newsletter yes? I did I asked her some pictures and she said Okay, so that will be in a future newsletter. I recommend you subscribe to the newsletter And then she's like, I also want to do a little back and forth with her because you said that she thinks i'm an asshole I never saw your soul now. Oh my God that is so nice and exactly wrong you're on I would jump to conclusions You said the I was a short short show. No, no it with her no yeah? Oh yeah That was awhile back Yeah, no because I said she's a big fan. She's a big Jason some male came in as you said something I said okay. Yes It wasn't she's a very short. She's a big know she didn't say that I said that oh

2:00:06 No, you said it. You're just trying to cause trouble I'm trying but she's a big fan She's a big fan of the newsletters This is what she is her job. She does this kind of I had to actually this last newsletter was so long I'm glad she helped but I would like to discuss a couple of points that he made in that newsletter Can I can I get my point probably learn to something? Okay All right in a moment will do that in the in the D block no we're not doing it on the show Okay Well, send her an email. Send her and email she loves you. And then of course now she's on a laptop is like oh boy I forgot to wish my daughter happy Daughters Day! Yeah exactly...and i say what is that bull crap all about? So someone started on Facebook it says International Daughters' day there is international daughters day which falls in August 11th

2:01:01 But this just shows you how, and it's a part of moral self-licensing. Oh I have to say something nice to my daughter on the face page then whew then i'll be good for another year. That's not happening on this show? No but I just want to say that its so easy to start something up on the face page. Yeah! Everyone is all like oh I love my daughter boo my daughter she's the best thing that ever happened to me while I was like pfff asshole kids well ya know what parents really think Yeah, so we should think about starting something up. Yeah! National No Agenda Day? Oh yeah, I mean it has to be something that'll get legs but at least... Well that could get legs. Send photos. You got anything else?

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White House State Dinner, Tech Executives Attendance

The White House state dinner for Chinese President Xi Jinping featured a prominent guest list of tech leaders, including Apple CEO Tim Cook and Microsoft's Satya Nadella. Tim Cook was notably seated at the head table with the presidents, accompanied by Apple executive Lisa Jackson. The hosts analyze the seating arrangements and the visible dynamics between the political and corporate elite.

tim cook· barack obama· xi jinping· lisa jackson· state dinner

2:01:46 Uh, no. No I think... The only good phone's a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite! That's right everybody that's all the tech news you need it's all you need i got a little tech news but i'll just as an afterthought okay hail the apple now uh c-span does this once in a while and i said you know i'm very suspicious of c-span I think they do certain things just for the like, and I'm not gonna say it's for the intelligence community or some maybe some spies or industrial guys or whatever. But once in a while they...and i think maybe it's just lazy? I'm not sure what they're up to but they put on a camera on the walkway to the dinner-to the state dinner with the Chinese guy! Oh I haven't..I didn't see that

2:02:32 Yeah, the Chinese guy of the Chinese guy. The Chinese guy she she She is they show him coming in the back He came in in the back and then they have these people coming and their announcing them a bunch really don't announce They had but this was a very interesting groupage getting us to the point This was mostly tech people mm-hmm it had Nadella and his wife John Lasseter came rolling through with his wife. Gates was there. I didn't see Gates, he wasn't in the walk-in state. I saw Gates, yeah. Gates was not at the lead table. The interesting thing about the lead table, the main table where Obama sat in the middle

2:03:11 facing the audience behind, with the podium behind him. The Chinese, Xi's wife was on his left and he never looked at her? I thought it was snubbing her. His wife was on the other side then she or no, she was next to him, I guess and then his wife, then Michelle and you couldn't recognize anybody except...I could see that directly across from Xi Was Tim cook Tom Collins he came in? As like an honored guest and who do you think he'd bring for a date Hold on a second. This is a good I like this a lot now we know that Tom Collins is gay, but Did he bring him man yet to give me that you're gonna ask me questions okay? I'll answer one yeah did he bring it my question Is it going to be that is that gonna be the quest that's the question You know

2:04:08 You know, um... Then he brought a woman. Wow this is uh- I'll give you a second question Okay? Okay is not the question Oh! I get to ask it Was the um So was a woman, I presume Wait a minute, was it Caitlyn Jenner Oh, that would have been fantastic. I guess i'm wrong That's too bad okay um and by the way that's not a question that is the A guess at the answer how many guesses do I get? I'll give you two more okay Um tank girl miriam joir oh come on yeah at least try to get a real question Well uh megan smith

2:04:58 Oh, that would have been a good idea. Because you know they'd never go home and have sex? I didn't see Megan Smith there... No! X-E-P-A head Lisa Jackson! Oh no of course she's the spokeshole for the Apple! Oh i forgot about that oh wow Damn. Oh, she just lorded over everybody she's coming in there I bet I bet she was walking on like her shit don't stink Did Jeffrey Katzenberg come in with a man or a woman? With a man of course yeah his husband yeah, I guess Let's see who else was there that was of interest. A couple people just blew in, some people stopped and posed and did this and that it was actually quite interesting but... Was Mark Cuban there? I didn't see Mark Cuban at least he wasn't during the part they allowed us to see then they went in and we listened Obama speak and you couldn't recognize anybody It was a dim room so it was useless for intelligence at that point

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Ahmed Mohamed Google Science Fair, Clockboy Celebrity

Ahmed Mohamed, known as "Clockboy," attended the Google Science Fair as a celebrity guest following his arrest for bringing a disassembled clock to school. The media continues to portray him as a "star" and a "nerd," with upcoming meetings scheduled at the United Nations. The hosts argue that the boy is being used as a political prop by various organizations and predict a difficult transition out of the spotlight.

ahmed mohamed· clockboy· google science fair· united nations· nasa

2:06:03 I do have one last story for the tech news, although we kind of close out the segment. It's no matter... how well we deconstructed it, no matter how many people turn up and say... incredible technology people say this is bullcrap. No matter how many times you point out the relationship between the kid's sister and the Council on American Islamic Relations and that timing of everything and then the fact that there was only 10% Caucasian population amongst the entire school The mainstream media has just gone all goo-goo gaga for Ahmed, for Clockboy.

2:06:45 You think that one of the networks, I've been following this trying to find a network that would have the guts to do a mea culpa. No not gonna happen But they're not going nuts there just dropped the story the three by three Oh okay but i'm seeing nothing but it's continuing on cable news Nope the 3x3s have all dropped it Okay well then its just a little you know, just a little blip at the end here but Clockboy goes to Google. Fourteen-year old Ahmed Mohammed is a star... Star! ...at the Google Science Fair in California. Students and adults are all eager to have their pictures taken with him

2:07:23 It's quite a change from a week ago when the 14-year old was arrested and then suspended for bringing a homemade clock to school. But if officials in Irving, Texas don't want him others do I'm a teacher and that is the kind of kid you want your class right? That kid that is inspired that wants to go out and do lots of cool things Google promptly sent him an invitation to their science fair where he got to meet with fellow nerds from around the world. I think it just makes us glad that he's having a good time and that he can be with kids that are interested in the same things as he is. Next, he scheduled to meet with... That girl by the way is like a VP of marketing at Google listen she's 12 years old! ...that he has. Next, he scheduled to meet with officials at The United Nations

2:08:11 Not bad for a teenager who likes to play with circuits. Oh, circuits! Have you heard this kid talk? Yeah of course He sounds like an idiot Yes Correct He sounds like an idiot and then all he does is tear stuff apart. And they keep dressing him up in that NASA t-shirt, that thing's got to be smelly by now or did NASA send him a whole box? I can see why he was sent here by his sister to do all this stuff. Oh it was so easy! So easy... Now, you heard he's going to the UN. The UN is... Oh please! This just gets worse. Yeah and it's been the abuse of this child is going to end poorly because He's a celebrity You know? He loves it. He's taking selfies with all the hot girls. He's gonna crash I guarantee heroin overdose for this kid It's not gonna end well. I know how this goes First there's some weed then its coke Then before we know what it's crack and then it's heroin

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UN Report on Cyber Violence, Violence Against Women and Girls

The United Nations Broadband Commission released a report on "Cyber VAWG" (Violence Against Women and Girls), claiming that 73% of women have experienced online abuse. The report calls for "effective terms of service" to combat what it describes as a pandemic of online violence. Critics argue that the UN's definition of "violence" is being expanded to include speech, potentially threatening global internet freedom.

united nations· cyber violence· vawg· free speech· terms of service

2:09:12 And this kid is not good. The United Nations came out with a report, John and this report in words matter a lot in this particular case. Hold on let me bring it up here It was the... hold on second What do you have for time check right now? Yeah we're gonna go to the blog No I don't want end of show just wonder what your time check is Time Check 210 Okay Alright The Organiz- uh, the United Nations Broadband Commission for Digital Development Released what they call a damning worldwide wake up call For what it calls Cyber VAUGH Cyber Vaugh? VAUGH! V A W G VAUGH VAUGH CYBER VAUGH VAUGH is an acronym Violence Against Women and Girls

2:10:16 And I will start with the, what is she? Doreen Bogdan-Martin. She's with the ITU who of course sometime in the future will be in charge, indirectly but in charge of the ICANN, the assigned numbers and names and pretty much the administrative part of the domain name system. Certainly the registration system. And here is her little PR ditty on this report which you must read copying the show notes of course. This new report by the United Nations Broadband Commission for Sustainable Development comes at a critical juncture in the explosion of online apps

2:10:59 and services. Hardly a day goes by without some new story in the media concerning cyber violence against a girl or woman." Now, cyber violence is...the first three definitions in the dictionaries I consulted of violence are really associated with physical contact I would think so. A bomb blows you up, I think that's violence. Yeah! I think somebody coming over and punching you in the nose... That's violence. Somebody shooting you This is very very important that this is now the United Nations they don't do crap but they do set up all the other believers and the bots to get on board like oh yes violence against girls and women Violence on cyberviolence

2:11:48 The problem of online violence has become a pandemic. I hit you, do you feel it? Online violence... Has become a pandemic. Pandemic! They love the pandemics. Oh yeah And women and girls are more often the victims Well at least I had... I'd do her Which is commonly seen in comments. I do her. Violence, that's violence! Is that violence? Yes and you will find out why. It's a big part of the vogue Our research suggests that 73% of women on the net have already experienced some form of online violence At least women are ahead in something That's good

2:12:29 My own agency, ITU is based in Europe where our research indicates that 18% of women have experienced a form of serious internet violence as young as the age of 15. Serious Internet violence? What's the difference between serious and minor? What are you going to say, serious internet violence? What is serious internet violence. We're going to find out in a moment and that's a shocking figure when we realize that this corresponds to about 9 million women Oh no! In this report were arguing that complacency and failure to address cyber-violence could significantly impede the uptake of broadband services by girls and women worldwide

2:13:16 The net is an amazing resource for female empowerment and we need to ensure that as many girls and women as possible benefit from the amazing possibilities it offers. So cyber violence comes down to speech, This is an anti-free speech thing, which is very important for everyone to adopt. We shouldn't be talking about anything. I'm surprised this show's allowed to be on the air. Well for instance with the things that come out of my pie hole often could be considered very violent and the solution in, look for this term is an effective TOS. Effective TOS that's the term we need to be on the lookout for. Terms of service? Effective terms of service yes which describe very well what you can and cannot say And of course Reddit was I would say the Canary in the coal mine on this then as we all know that douche woman was kicked out because she was a woman not because he was a shitty CEO and liar

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Zoe Quinn UN Testimony, Gamergate and Social Justice

Gamergate figure Zoe Quinn testified at the United Nations regarding online harassment and the need for "intersectional feminism" in tech moderation. Quinn advocated for specialized cyber police units and stricter enforcement of terms of service to protect marginalized groups. The testimony included calls for action against "deadnaming" and "swatting," while emphasizing the importance of anonymity for activists.

zoe quinn· gamergate· united nations· social justice· doxing

2:14:20 But who should appear at this UN meeting with, uh... about this violence towards women but Zoe Quinn? And now it all comes together for me. Do you know what to...? What are you doing? I'm trying to add dramatic sounds. We don't have enough dramatic sounds. Okay, good. Well like it a little closer a little closer Oh, sorry do accents you know accents Do you remember who Zoe Quinn is the name? I'm trying them without looking it up. I'm trying to dig through my Gray cells but I can't come out with if I've heard of it though Gamergate

2:14:59 This is oh god. Yes, finally it comes to a head This is the the grand pooba of social justice warriors Zoe Quinn you want to find out about her? You have to do your own research because I'm not even good at we have no standing in the gaming world But this is the woman who sure got up. Well. I wouldn't interrupt We sure got a lot of flack for not covering it Well, I think some of that now in a way is justified because this is the culmination of the efforts of social justice warriors who fight against triggers and trigger words and all these things you can't do. And I'm just going to play until we can handle it no more. They give Zoey the floor

2:15:45 And just listen to what she's saying. We deal a lot with triage, so people come to us when things have already gotten to the worst And I can tell you right now that one of the most effective things we see is an active and humane response on tech partners side. That is one of Active and Humane Response On Tech Partners Side, John. This is going to get great! The most effective thing, but it's also often sorely lacking this requires proper moderation which takes into account things like intersexual feminism Intersexual Feminism What the hell is that? I want some! I'd like three pounds of intersexual feminine. I think it's where you can be a woman when you're a man, or if you think you're a woman and you were a man and wanna be a man... And we triage you

2:16:31 She triages intersexual feminism. So in terms of service taking into effect things like the fact that trans women often face a very specific type of violence called deadnaming where people post pre-transition names in an effort to intimidate, harass and endanger their lives Things like they need to be trained in things like the way domestic violence can manifest online because the viral nature of the internet can take all of the goodness about things like marketing, things like grassroots activism and apply it to domestic abuse just as easily as you saw in my case. Now what's interesting about this Zoe woman is she has all these rules and things that need to be stopped and people who need to be protected yet you're going here in a minute she herself wants to be protected

2:17:16 Because she's a warrior and we need to have you know of course we need to protect people who are doing good But who is going to determine whether you're doing good or bad is ultimately the question Or maybe didn't but yeah Well-trained responders, and that requires what she says this little ego bitch. She said oh sorry that was violent She's like maybe heard about my case well Maybe he didn't maybe didn't hear about my case Mike has his own part in it as you saw on my case Or maybe you didn't, but yeah. Well-trained responders and that's not just in tech companies but as well as law enforcement that don't end up re-victimizing the person dealing with this is so common in domestic abuse and other sorts of abuse

2:18:00 which is also again not often found. And supportive social networks that don't downplay what's happening, that don't tell them to just get offline and hide which we've seen in cases like Kathy Sierra's doesn't actually even work. Don't just say... We need effective... So what she's calling for here is for little cyber units at every social network who are going to take the millions of complaints where you know exactly as you said I do her! And then come and arrest you and break your kneecaps or something? Mental health professionals, because often times these sort of things will not be taken seriously. One of my own agents I had to call... Why does she have agents? That's confusing to me His healthcare provider because they thought he was schizophrenic that people like me didn't exist and a bunch of anonymous people doing this as somebody wasn't possible

2:18:49 In terms of prevention, education about even just digital self-defense since we are so far behind on this issue can keep people safe. Whether that's training people on what doxing is which is when people find your home address and post online. I'm pretty sure she's guilty of doxing herself as an aside. Encouraging further action against you or to intimidate and harass you And now here comes... Things like swatting where people call in false police reports I don't think we need a cyber police for swatting. If you do that, then you know the...that is something that takes place in the real world there are all kinds of laws against doing that. Yeah yeah that's a real-world problem it's not a cyber anything. There's no cyber involved. Vogue! Vogue!

2:19:28 There will be people erroneously dispatched to your location to harass you further. Just basic things like digital security, a lot of people probably maybe even in this room probably still use the same password for everything and in 2015 we have no excuse to keep doing that We also need to see again these effective terms of service that take all of the different ways that different people from different layers of marginalization or geographical location experience online harassment. Marginalization, oh John we're so freaking doomed brother! We're doomed. We need people that are actually belonging to these demographics working in these departments so it's not just an echo chamber of a bunch of people. Yeah, here is where she is shilling for her job She keeps saying we need good tech partners and have the right people at the tech companies Cyber police! That what she is talking about. Cyber Police. Already in Tech deciding what happens with rest of us

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Online Anonymity Debate, Bad Faith Websites

The discussion at the UN highlighted a paradoxical stance on anonymity: it is viewed as a vital tool for social justice activists but a weapon for "bad actors." Zoe Quinn called for the shutdown of "bad faith websites" and podcasts that allegedly profit from harassment. The hosts interpret these calls as a move toward centralized censorship of independent media and dissenting voices.

anonymity· social justice· bad faith websites· youtube· censorship

2:20:21 Proper legislation that talks to people like me and people that live on work online That doesn't destroy vital things like anonymity. Ah, here it is anonymous So we need anonymity But we needed to be able to find out who was being anonymous and that talks to people Like me and people that live on and work online Talk to me I know how to help you that doesn't destroy vital things like anonymity which not Which may seem like a big bad scary thing since a lot of people do use it for home for purposes, but it's also the thing that protects activists like me. It's a thing that protects people who have mental illness from the stigma speaking out about it comes with so they can find community." I like this because I can just say oh I have mental illness

2:21:04 So, you have to be able to do things anonymously. I'm mentally ill...I'm sorry it's the Tourette's. A thing that helps people that are discovering their own gender identities and their own sexualities talk with other people without fear of reprisal and often violent reprisals. The way I read what she is saying is we have to be able to have people be anonymous for activists like me for social justice warriors like me to be out there defending against VOG However, if you do something bad then we're gonna have to know who you are So making sure that people who live and work online and understand these nuances are involved with every step of this It's crucial. Otherwise will see more embarrassing statements about series of tubes in governmental bodies

2:21:49 Oh, hello. How many years ago was that? Hello 1980 call they want their stupid senator back We need people to actually enforce their own terms of service and shut down bad actors bad faith websites There are numerous places that host a non-consensual pornography and make a profit off of this Yeah look at our artwork there are individuals on services like YouTube That have made a living off of abusing people like Anita And I who monetize them Wait wait can you stop and go back about a minute mm-hmm but not a minute But like 15 seconds yeah I want that term up for that term went right by my god service and shut down bad actors bad faith websites there are many websites bad faith websites and podcasts

2:22:29 Bad faith podcast. Bad faith. ...non-consensual pornography and make a profit off of this there are individuals on services like YouTube that have made a living off of abusing people like Anita and I who monetize this, who see the mobs, who aren't anonymous, who raise their funds this way to continue attacking stalking and harassing us because it's a cottage industry at this point And all these things need to be taken into account and might be difficult to understand from the outside so if there is one thing... Okay okay you win I was gonna play a little piece of a trailer of a movie that just came out that is being abused for this very thing. I think we should do this as a feature more often, play some horrible person brambling on in the most obnoxious way and see who could take the most of it! Well you had... there was 26 seconds left and you couldn't make- I'm sorry you win! You want to hear the movie?

2:23:21 This is this is great. I might as well hear them yeah, you might as well so there's this uh this woman who has some Real shitty disorder she can't gain weight So she's like a stick and her you've probably seen her and her face looks of the abyss it's a horrible It's hideous She's hideous but she's um she's sweet girl, and she's I think she did a TED talk at all man boy hey, that's I'm being vlog baby and She met a filmmaker when she did this TEDx talk in Austin. And this is the movie and this explains exactly what the problem is. It's such a sad story when you see this poor girl, the way she looks... You want to be all in on stopping bad faith websites. A documentary on the life of Lizzie Velasquez once cyberbullied as the world's ugliest woman follows her on a 26 year journey from childhood to motivational speaker to present day activist

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Lizzie Velasquez Documentary, Cyberbullying Legislation

Lizzie Velasquez, who was once labeled the "world's ugliest woman" in a viral video, has become a prominent activist against cyberbullying. Her journey is the subject of a new documentary that follows her efforts to lobby Capitol Hill for anti-bullying legislation. The segment explores the psychological impact of online comments and the limitations of human communication in the digital age.

lizzie velasquez· cyberbullying· capitol hill· youtube· activism

2:22:29 Bad faith podcast. Bad faith. ...non-consensual pornography and make a profit off of this there are individuals on services like YouTube that have made a living off of abusing people like Anita and I who monetize this, who see the mobs, who aren't anonymous, who raise their funds this way to continue attacking stalking and harassing us because it's a cottage industry at this point And all these things need to be taken into account and might be difficult to understand from the outside so if there is one thing... Okay okay you win I was gonna play a little piece of a trailer of a movie that just came out that is being abused for this very thing. I think we should do this as a feature more often, play some horrible person brambling on in the most obnoxious way and see who could take the most of it! Well you had... there was 26 seconds left and you couldn't make- I'm sorry you win! You want to hear the movie?

2:23:21 This is this is great. I might as well hear them yeah, you might as well so there's this uh this woman who has some Real shitty disorder she can't gain weight So she's like a stick and her you've probably seen her and her face looks of the abyss it's a horrible It's hideous She's hideous but she's um she's sweet girl, and she's I think she did a TED talk at all man boy hey, that's I'm being vlog baby and She met a filmmaker when she did this TEDx talk in Austin. And this is the movie and this explains exactly what the problem is. It's such a sad story when you see this poor girl, the way she looks... You want to be all in on stopping bad faith websites. A documentary on the life of Lizzie Velasquez once cyberbullied as the world's ugliest woman follows her on a 26 year journey from childhood to motivational speaker to present day activist

2:24:18 taking the discussion of bullying to Capitol Hill and urging lawmakers to take action. The 58-pound Velasquez was born with a syndrome that prevents her from gaining weight At the age of 17, Lizzie found a YouTube video dubbing her the world's ugliest woman and had more than 4 million views. I just picked up a gun in my life and I sat there and read every single comment. I don't know why I did it. I just couldn't stop. In a way, I was so desperate to find someone who was sticking up for me but I didn't find it Struggling with her own identity and issues of fitting in Lizzie eventually became a passionate public speaker I could go on forever, but the point doubt that because we Generally speaking somebody will stick up for anybody. Yeah, I got it too Of course a comment list or somebody in this thing you guys are cruel yeah Which is what you know? You can come in and say it's not and I guarantee someone someone put in the comment I doer

2:25:17 And some asshole would do that too, you're right. Absolutely! Both of those things. But the point is this happened on YouTube I mean yeah you should get rid of YouTube... The problem is our brains are not set up for what's happening to us We still have tailbones. This is not, we are not prepared for this type of interpersonal inter-human communication. Witness the face page that's filled with... it's a cesspool It's a morass of muck! You know? It's shit but its what it is get the hell off I'm sorry I'm gonna say get off don't read it

CHAPTER 46 / 58 Discussion

Mark Zuckerberg in China, Mandarin Language Diplomacy

Mark Zuckerberg met with President Xi Jinping in Seattle, reportedly speaking entirely in Mandarin to lobby for Facebook's entry into the Chinese market. Despite his linguistic efforts, there is no indication that the Chinese government plans to lift its ban on the social network. The hosts comment on the optics of the meeting and the strategic importance of the Chinese market to Facebook's growth.

mark zuckerberg· xi jinping· facebook· china· mandarin

2:25:57 And of course, Zuckerberg was in Seattle and then he was also at the dinner with his wife. Yeah huh? Who speaks Chinese... Who's a vegan Chinese and I don't want to be disparaging but she's obviously not the vegan type that eats vegetables She is a starchitarian because she is way too big. Mmm. Starchitarian. Common starchitarians are all over the place. I've never heard of them. But they consider themselves healthy. She eats potatoes Well, it's more like the Cinnabons if you ask me. But he learned Mandarin Chinese just so he could speak to this guy which... The guy is not an idiot so he probably learned it with intensive... He was kind of one those guys that gaze and can focus well and learn their language and he spoke with Xi but the whole point of him learning Chinese so he can get Xi to say yeah okay Facebook you can come into China. And do you know what Xi said?

2:26:52 Man, your bitch better lay off the cinna-buns. She's getting heavy! Just saying... I'm not trying to be critical. Alright. We have a few people to thank for show 760 and also large group of supporters for my being let go at the other show. Now, I want to tell you...I think I've told this story before about the Cinnabon guy but the vegan who is essentially made it life eating Cinnabons Gary Howell, I want to thank him $189.48 which includes 89 48 from Houston Texas

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Associate Executive Producer Credits, Global Donor List

A comprehensive list of associate executive producers and donors is read, featuring supporters from the United States, Australia, Canada, and Europe. The hosts acknowledge the "severance pay" donations following their departure from a previous network. This segment reinforces the community-driven nature of the show and the diverse geographic locations of its contributors.

donations· producers· global audience· value for value· credits

2:27:44 As he puts it, includes a severance donation. Val-nonimous! The Anonymous, $135.79 in Tampa Florida car, Carlin Watts, $135.79 in Melbourne Florida, Richard Troiano in Folsom California, 1-2-3-4-5, Frank Montwell in Milwaukee Wisconsin, 1-2-3-4-5 and we have... Oh I think I missed the Douchebag call out from Richard. Been far too long since I've donated, so please de-douche me. Oh, do that almost... You've been de-douched! And he'd like to make the following douchebag callouts Josh Reynolds Sarah Elzea and Rachel McIntosh

2:28:38 Very good. Frank Montwell, I guess in Milwaukee Wisconsin 12345 Daniel Woodleaf in Pittsburgh North Carolina Regime Books Regime in Coolbinia Washington Australia WA Western Australia 12345 Kevin McLaughlin and Locust North Carolina one two three four five Donald Borowski sir Donald Borowski to you in Spokane Valley Washington one two three four five I have a note. I have to read because it's from Starfleet Fleet Command No, it's the intergalactic What is it says United Federation of planets starting on fleet command our fleet command starfish command hold on a second?

2:29:23 I am one of those obnoxious listeners who makes demands in return for a donation. For my contribution, I demand that you provide me with the best podcast in the universe! If you choose not to comply, return my donation immediately!" Sir Donald of The Fire Bottles. W-A-6-O-M-I 73 KF5 SLN I think a little time out there to hear what the Starfleet's got to say. Joe Esposito in Stockton, California $100. Tyler Sumner in Calgary, Alberta $100. Scott Porter in Garland Texas 100. Keith McColpin in Imperial Pennsylvania 100. Anthony Kuzmichic, something like that in Melbourne Australia that is an Australian Ben Smith in Greenville Texas Jeremy Goldsworthy and Midland

2:30:16 I'm sorry, Jeremy. It was John Hammock Jr in Andrews South Carolina $100 and so is Goldsworthy's 100 Alexander Sulzberger 999999 in Deutschland James Kachin the second in Ashburn Virginia 89.50, and now we have the well-wishers who came in at 89.48 which was... Although there were a lot of well wishers that had higher amounts than this. Yes, although there was a number. Everyone is a well wisher but this is the well wishing core group that I would just read or name and town it won't have to keep saying 89.48 although Brian Edlin at Myrtle Beach South Carolina did 89.49 coyly David Nicholson Cottage Grove Minnesota

2:31:08 James Von Aken in Temple, Texas. Greg Birch! Sir Greg Birch up in Surdentite in Port Angeles California I thought he stopped listening. I'm gonna go visit him on the next leg of the tour Oh good. I'm going to hang out with Mimi and drink your wine Emmanuel Aragny in parts unknown France So I guess it's Emmanuel Bonjour Aragny Simon Reed in New York City's Jason Southwell and Pompano Beach Olav Johansson and in Sweden David Villiers, will you in Concord California 89 48 bore Maranoff Boris love bears Borslav Marin off sir and Trabuco Canyon California Tim de Warren

2:31:57 in Round Lake, Illinois. Yeah these comments people we're not going to read them obviously because it's too much but I'm saving these for my book These are great! yeah there's a lot of good comments that were made i have to say Really, really endearing. A lot of them! I mean, I haven't got some goodness splashed on me. Well... from the comments? Yeah people saying nice things and nice things about the show and about me as well. It's not bad. I like it. I felt really good for you. Kuang Lu in Santa Ana California Sir Stephan Bo Baronet from Clear Lake Wisconsin

2:32:35 Stephen or Stefan Schwartz in Shirts, Texas. Florian Dvorsky in St. John's Florida. A lot of new names by the way. Rick Labanca in Hope Rhode Island. Sir Mike Knight of the High Places in Colorado Springs, Colorado you must have seen him at a meetup. Sir Otaku again from Louisville Texas. Sir Schmidty in Richfield Minnesota. Dame Francine Hardaway from Half Moon Bay California. Oh Dame Francine! Dame Francine from Half Moon Bay Tom Schering in Wheeler's Hill, Victoria Australia Hung Kobe in Hong Kong Sounds like a fake name to me. I'm hungry Stephen Myers Steven Meyers in Austin Texas Benjamin McGinnis and P Pickerton Ohio Sir Evergreen in evergreen Colorado Mike Litke in Tinley Park, Illinois Matt litki matt

2:33:30 I said Mike. Yeah, but it's Matt. It's Matt Litke. Sir Middlemoss in Harrisonville Missouri. Sir Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch California Michael Lopresti in Middleton New York Baroness Baronetess Janice King Kang in Milpitas or Thomas Nussbaum, who's got a neighbor that's trying to compete with him. Yeah in Virginia Beach, Virginia John Grumling and Battlement Mesa Colorado it was he at the meetup I don't think so Tom Moser and Bloomington Illinois John Anderson in Youngsville Louisiana said Roberts Slatt you think in Glendale Arizona slot sounds right

2:34:16 Jason Rosenfeld in Kinnelon, New Jersey. Wesley Forney in Las Cruces, New Mexico Joseph Kelly in Baytown Texas Joseph Frost and Wooddale Illinois Rob Leggett in Cranbrook BC Canada Do over by spasm mark f do it in Saudi Daisy, Tennessee. I Loved some of these towns Saudi Daisy Nicholas Oman and thief River Falls Minnesota Sir Richard Gardner in Chicago Illinois Jason Verneur and shirts Texas Is that two people in shirts Texas?

2:35:02 Brad Pearson in West Winchester, Virginia. Daniel Foster in Maynardsville, Tennessee or Maynardville? Timothy Brashears in Cookville, Tennessee comes in quite a bit. Colomona Meyer in Capsos and Washington. Capowson, that's gotta be it. John Vale in Pennsburg, Pennsylvania. Timothy Chang in Somerville Massachusetts Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas. Doug Cook in Guthrie, Oklahoma. Sir Ted Hosman in Elk Grove, California. Radu Pertuk in Grosse Isle, Michigan I think. Gary Barnik in Glendive, Montana. Kirk Sotthoff in Novato, California.

2:35:57 Kenneth Learman Jr. in San Diego, California David Hoffman in Enola Pennsylvania Dame Astrid our Duchess of Japan yo-yo Where the seat stands for chick magnet? I shall write that one down. I'd rather stick with the guardians of reality any day Damien Taman and Perth Western Australia and a favorite town of mine they've never been to Shawn DeSantis in Fort Pierce Florida M ek Methyl ethyl ketone from Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey. Hamilton Morris in Mesa Arizona. The law offices of Jason Petri PC in Rock Springs Wyoming probably only 10. Hey so we've got a lawyer now if we need to get bailed out? We have a number of lawyers Yes but this is nice It's good they have one in Wyoming Matthew Clay in Bloomington Illinois Ben Colbeck in Madison Wisconsin

2:36:55 Jeff Mincy in San Jose, California. Sir Hank Viscount of Queens and Kew Gardens New York Russell Gurtin in Beaumaris, Australia Nicholas Stowe in Austin Texas right down the street from you Brian Warden in Downs Illinois Roy Pledge in Conotic Ontario Canada Stu Coates in Chelmsford Essex River Mist Designs in Kagawong... Kagawong, Ontario Fog! Vog Daniel mctough as a name the annual mctough in Silver Springs, Maryland sir Davy in Rome Texas Sam lung and Leone in Toronto Ontario William Bryant in Spartanburg South Carolina Paul Tevis and Oak Hills California bill in Glen Rock New Jersey Matt Matthew Phillips

2:37:51 Wyandotte, Michigan. Shane Brady, parts unknown. Dame Beth the Baroness of Baja Arizona in Tucson Anonymous in Lechburg Pennsylvania Kevin Dills in Charlotte North Carolina Aaron Heath in St Agnes New South Wales Dan Reeder in Mauds Land Queensland Sir S Russell Williams the Barron of Idaho and Boise Go Boise State Eric Asbury in Tampa Florida Eric Haas in Geneva, Illinois and that ends our group. Nice group! I want to thank all these people for getting in on this severance pay. I love it. We do have some leftovers here to follow up with. John Tirada 6969 has never given up on that he is in Pasadena James Romano New Fairfield Connecticut 6660 David Charton in Vancouver Washington

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Small Batch Donations, International Well-Wishers

The final list of individual donors is acknowledged, including contributions from Berlin, Tokyo, and various North American cities. The hosts express their appreciation for the "compounded value" of the audience's support over time. The segment concludes the financial acknowledgments for the episode, highlighting the collective effort required to sustain the program.

donations· well-wishers· community· value for value· podcasting

2:38:44 That's where I get my computer from. $65, Sir Brian Warden in Downs Illinois Kevin Dills 6432 along with Brian 6432 Charlotte North Carolina Jevin Joseph Martin in Marquette Michigan 5678 which came in as a check I think Geek Rolling in Pasadena California 5559 Thomas Lane 5510 in Vista California Gabriel the Brazilian in Manchester, New Hampshire. 5510. That's a cool name! I'm Gabriel the Brazilian. Brian is Susan Morris. Liberty Maine. Bryan Hopkins in Honolulu living it up in Hawaii. 5510 Joshua McDonald double nickels on the dime Sir Kevin Payne Richmond Virginia 5510 52 5432 from from Kevin Payne sorry sir Pablo the squirrel

2:39:41 In Wellington, New Zealand. He says he was missed on some squirrel episode. Younonymous in Stafford Virginia $52.40. Eric Hochul our buddy in Berlin $52. Shannon Atkins in Warren Michigan James Streck in Miamisburg and she's in for 5150. James Streck 5033 from Miamisburg Ohio and the following last of the list are the $50 donors, starting with Michael Shambao in Topeka, Kansas. Great little town. Joseph McLeod in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Ryan Hoskins in Yorba Linda California. Daniel Torellio in Charleston South Carolina. Ross Turpin and Troy Kansas Gerald Inabonay in Union South Carolina Peter Totes or Peter Totes to you. $50 parts unknown. Jezza Jumped

2:40:36 uh... in melbourne australia fifty chad rich parts unknown donald nappy air in chicago brian evans and berwick uh... victorian anonymous milton ontario as you wrap it up with alexander moon osin hot springs arkansas he did send it to know him by hand i think uh... so when we mentioned earlier he needed that Greetings from I love the show. It's not only valuable recourse, but a value compounded over time He has some math put in the newsletter Maybe it's showing that how much money you can save if you get more better donations Brian Klimczak and Naperville Illinois, Illinois Benjamin Smith over here in Oakland Sir Bogdan LeHendro in Roanoke Texas

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Salt Lake City Meetup Recap, Travel Logistics

Adam Curry recaps the Salt Lake City meetup, which featured a potluck dinner and a diverse group of listeners, including a "nutrition service worker." He details his upcoming travel plans to return home from the "I Love Blondie" tour, with stops planned in Moab and Albuquerque. The segment captures the personal connections made during the live tour events.

salt lake city· meetup· potluck· airstream· travel log

2:41:27 And our regular twice a month sir Mark Tanner down there in Whittier quite quite a group Incredible group yes Before we finish this up Let me tell you about some donations that were made on the spot at the meetup here in Salt Lake City again A great meet-up loved seeing her but there was I forgot where they came from. They drove from far to this beautiful, beautiful girl... lady? She calls herself the lunch lady and she made chili. It was kind of potluck and she says yeah i used to be called a lunch lady but now i'm known as a dietary service worker at school And all the kids hate it! They hate Michelle Obama they hate the shit that they have to make for lunch

2:42:15 We haven't really followed all that because our kids are kind of out of school, but you know You can't and you got bread with no butter the kids And she's so lovely. She like yeah, and I'm no longer caught I used to be a lunch lady in a you know I'd make cool stuff up make the chili I've making a sloppy joe's a big pizza now she's a Diet dietary service worker bread-and-water yes slaves shut up slave All right $60 from Sherry Osborne she is the rain stick girl and she She gave me one of her skulls She does these fantastic skulls look up Sherry Osborn Where's my phone I wrote this down Hold on. Let me make sure I get it, right yes Yes, you're rocking it. You're rocking it Oh nutrition service worker there he goes so on the face page look for

2:43:12 Fractal accents by Sherry. Fractal accents by Sherry, S-H-E-R-R-Y. Their stuff not only looks dynamite but it works! It's a fact and we have proven it many times and John shake it one more time who you shaking for? You're shaking it for California? Shake it for the West Coast! Shake it for the East Coast! Alright Thank you to Mike and Anissa Scalora. 1, 2 ,3 4 5 Give me a check for that lovely Fletcher sharp $33 plus two challenge coins and these are great I'll send you a picture It's it's a challenge coin has it's the secret squirrel challenge coin You see a squirrel and this is a secret on the back. It says don't ask NOYFB

2:44:05 N-O-Y FB. Yep, you got it? No. None of your effing business! Ah! Yeah Then we have... let me see if I have everything here and we got This is... Let's open this one up Thank y.. I appreciate the envelopes that's so much easier We have here oh my god a hundred and What is this? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of course. And this is from Brian Sirled Morton and family Amanda Arvid and Kayla nice meeting you Great the kid was great 15 year old kid he was like he was just no agenda written all over him And he wanted some Hillary clips which we've already played We'll play a little montage at the end again Amanda will cherish the picture that two of took forever Brian could you

2:45:00 I he says the one he thought i'd blocked him anyway, so we thank you for your donation And I want to thank everybody who came to all the meetups um it's really good seeing everyone. It's uh no, no it was uh You know because it's kind of over now john and i'm on the way back Now i'm gonna go as fast as it's going to take me three days to get home To be a meet up on the way back just to make yourself feel normal i'm going to in albuquerque I think will hook up with jeffrey touhig and his girlfriend rebecca Nothing in Moab just a bunch of rocks there and then after then I think I'm going back through Lubbock. I just can't make it It's you know each day is like a six-hour drive So and now they'll get in Wednesday, and then go straight into prep for the Thursday show. I'm not complaining I'm just saying

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Podcast Community Dynamics, TWiT Network Departure

The hosts reflect on the "No Agenda" community, noting that many listeners discovered the show through the TWiT network. They discuss John Dvorak's recent departure from TWiT, attributing it to a shift in the network's direction toward "lifestyle" and "Apple-centric" content. Adam Curry praises Dvorak's legacy as a tech icon and expresses confidence in the show's independent future.

podcasting· community· leo laporte· twit· media trends

2:45:46 Do we have anything else no okay? I just on these donations John it's beautiful to see all this outpouring of support And of course, I'm going to give you some jobs karma III did want to say that as We know a large percentage Of the people who come to these meetups are dudes named Ben and yeah, we're all on the spectrum We're all kind of messed up and that's why he works so well together. You know if there's like we are the hero of the autistic Yeah, but we're heroes of the spectrum. It's true! Everyone feels comfortable around the No Agenda family because we don't condemn. We only do that on this show. On this show for sure. The show we do a lot... VOG. VOG. VOG.

2:46:27 But a lot of them found out about the show through twit and I just like you'll find that most of the people then do one Of these meetings again, it's not a lot of them You know a few dozen maybe at the most they all end up meeting each other and a lot of them become friends after the fact Absolutely. Oh Long time friendships have come out of this my point really a friendship club Yes And we should all have friendship rings No, our night rings do the trick. I guess my point is or but what I wanted to ask you Should I mean are you really done for good done? But you know if it was like

2:47:06 If so, if you got a message saying hey, things got a little heated. Well I had it. I sent out tweet about let's face reality and there was a couple of naysayers. There were hundreds of people wishing me well and saying oh its douchey for Leo to get all worked up about simple tweet that had nothing to do with him Although I could see that. I've always felt your your presence on Twitter's been good for our show and quite honestly makes that show for Watchable for me, and I like it now well. I will miss you. I want to shoot yeah Well, I think that It was the show was going in a direction And I think the network as a whole is going in kind of a different direction more of us You know this did the idea the verge more lifestyle?

2:47:51 Hail Apple. Hail Apple, a lot of Apple stuff, lot of phone stuff, lifestyle stuff that not so much really discussing in detail anything that's even desktop computer was less than that was even mentioned because at least the group that is running the place has this sense that this would be more there'd be growth in that arena. I personally don't think so, and i do like to talk about certain kinds of nerdy stuff or trends, the internet of things when they bring it up is always this greatest thing ever going to happen and its not necessarily. When I did my interview with John Scully which produced

2:48:35 at least parts of it on the... Yeah, that was a great interview. We had it on the show but we also did as a column for... John, stop! You are a figurehead you're an icon in tech and I hate to say that I said tech but there's no doubt about it and you make people think Every day, I meet people who say for 25 years have been reading Dvorak. And it's not about your prowess or your knowledge, it's what you do and sometimes you say funny things, sometimes you are very good at taking an alternative view and I think it will be missed so the only thing...I personally would like to see if there is a crack in the door, if it's still open should

2:49:23 You feel comfortable and someone boy someone say hey, you know should we give this another shot or is there? There's the format of the show no longer No longer valuable to you as if I think it's going to move in a direction that where I will be So irrelevant to what they're talking about yeah that. I don't think there was any opportunity either Okay, there's no way that do I mean it's just not gonna I don't I'd The way I see it know is the answer to the question you're trying to ask Well, that's a sad day. That's the way it goes. Yeah, it's okay. But anyway... Thank you everybody for helping John out! And I'm talking more about the uh... It's nice when you're recognized when your job kind of in a way was to be shit on There is that element that's annoying yes but yeah You can take it. It's very difficult to do Very difficult to do Anyway, I salute you sir

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Knighting Ceremony Part Two, Show Sign-Off

A final knighting ceremony is held for top-tier donors, granting them titles and access to the "mutton and mead" of the roundtable. The hosts reiterate that the audience is "not the product" and thank them for proving that a content-driven, ad-free model is viable. The segment transitions into the second half of the show with a final expression of gratitude.

knighting· chardonnay· sushi· value for value· sign-off

2:50:20 Thank you. Thank you for your courage, thank you for your work I appreciate your work man. I respect it It's really really good fabulous stuff did I suck up enough? Yeah, it's not necessary to vorac org Slash and a this one's for jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for job We have a couple of barons. We have Sir Funk becoming Sir Funk, Baron of Brisbane Australia in exile

2:51:12 Sir funk baron of Brisbane in exile sir skits become sir skits Baron Dixie protector of the Swanee River Swanny these specifically say river yes, okay is that wrong? No, no. Swanee is also just a generic term for that. How I love ya! How I love ya! Who was that? My dear old Swanee... Al Jolson. Okay. Alright. We do have a couple of nightings here if you uh... Hello? Blade judge stuck Here's Delphin Kevin b66 dr. Wookiee and Chad Gertz into the stage, please We are very happy to pronounce KD the Knights of the Noah dinner roundtable and very very proud that you've supported The best podcast universe in a might have $1,000 more and I hereby pronounce KD sir Delphin sure black balls

2:52:04 balls of twit, Sir Dr. Wookiee of the medical establishment and Sir Chad of Vanport for you gentlemen we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Johnny Walker Green Label Video Games and Vaporizers Saki and Sushi Puppies and Taylor Vintage Port Malted Barley and Hops Porn Stars and Pot and Of Course we always have the mutton and mead and Appreciate all of the help today also people who came in with lower amounts mainly for reasons of anonymous anonymity And obviously on the subscriptions, thank you very much for supporting the show. It's nice to know that a show can be done completely honestly without any advertising supported entirely in content in time in kindness and financially by the people who enjoy the product we make this product for you You are not the product That is the big takeaway message. Yes that is absolutely true. No!

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Secret Space Program Conference, Austin Texas Event

An announcement is made for the Secret Space Program conference taking place in Austin, Texas, in October. The event will feature speakers such as Katherine Austin Fitts and Linda Moulton Howe, focusing on "breakaway civilizations" and advanced technology. Adam Curry confirms his plans to attend and report on the proceedings for the podcast.

secret space program· austin· katherine austin fitts· linda moulton howe· black budget

2:53:08 No entry. Second half of show. Yes, second half of show! This is big John, big news! Tomorrow's the end of the world? That's correct tomorrow we are all going to die that was already planned We know that however more interesting perhaps is that Austin Texas will be home to a very exciting event and since I live there I am very happy to announce that i will be attending this great conference and it will be bringing a full report. All reports look good from here in the blockhouse at this time Hi, this is Dark Journalist please join me at the secret space program conference in Austin Texas on the weekend of October 31st as I host this special event that will bring together great minds like former assistant housing secretary Katherine Austen-Fitz

2:53:55 Coast to coast AM investigative reporter Linda Moulton Howe, Oxford scholar Dr. Joseph P Farrell and others who will unravel the secrets of the breakaway civilization, black budget and advanced technology. Please visit secretspaceprogram.org for more details. See you there! Austin Texas what? You're registered ready to go next month yeah I'm registered I got tickets I'm good This is my people baby. Tell her to wear a scarf Now exiting second half of the show. Blood moon tonight everybody! I know, and don't we have an eclipse as well? Yeah, Eclipse that starts at 6 o'clock on the West Coast. It goes to 8 so it's gonna be great. Dynamite in Moab Utah...I think that is going to one of the best places in the world to watch it. You're gonna be out there where you can see the stars. Yes! Exactly. Okay, now I've got two clips I want to get to. First of them this is a Ask Adam kind-of

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Faulty Cruise Control Incident, Media Corruption Analysis

An ABC News report on a driver trapped in a car with a locked cruise control is analyzed for what it omitted: the make and model of the vehicle. The hosts argue that the network likely suppressed the car's identity to avoid upsetting potential automotive advertisers. This "corruption" is cited as a primary reason for the show's reliance on listener support rather than corporate sponsorship.

cruise control· 911 call· california· abc news· media bias

2:55:00 What you always say kind of what does that mean? I'm supposed because it's not the technical ask Adam Which was the das cam began with movie clips Can I play the jingle that's all I want. Yeah Well somebody devoted an awful lot of time to a variety of Ask Adam jingles, oh there's so many of them John this is so good Let's see okay now I forgot about that. That's probably the best one. That's a good one, yeah! Okay so what's wrong now? We have a new story i'm going to ask you as a would-be journalist trainee. Trainee journalist okay... There are certain bunch of rules now this is David Muir

2:55:54 and guess what is wrong this is a story on the damaging effects of uh... faulty wiring and Okay, so what is my question? What is the... The question's gonna be what's- I'll tell you what. Play it first and then I'm going to ask after Oh but that makes it- I don't know what to listen for! Okay okay I can do this. Stop stop This is absolutely the way to do this one because as you listen what is with the question will become apparent or not Ooh here we go We're going to turn next tonight to the driver trapped in a speeding car on a California freeway. The cruise control locked ABC's Nick Watt teaming up with KABC tonight with the 911 call and what came next? My car is swerving all over the place, man I'm so scared He's driving at over 70 miles per hour on a busy California freeway and 29 year old Trevor Robin is in deep trouble. Man the accelerator is stuck

2:56:52 And I have no idea what to do. My cruise control will not turn off." His 15-year old pick up stuck in cruise control, little the highway patrol can do. This terrifying 911 call obtained by Los Angeles station KABC. I don't want to die! Minutes later, impact first Robbins vehicle striking the embankment and sound wall then going airborne overturning and landing in the roadway way, injecting him. Tonight Robin remains in the hospital with head and spinal injuries so what do you do if this happens to you? If your cruise control jams well first try to shift into neutral if that fails you can brake heavily and as a last resort you can just shut down the engine

2:57:42 David just an incredible story Nick. Thank you Okay, the question would be Why didn't he just shut down the engine? The question is going to actually be What's missing from this story Toyota Prius Well, you're close. The correct answer is the car was never named... Right. ...the vehicle was never named what car it was as we like this isn't major... You come up with this horror story and then don't tell us the name of the car? Right. What was the point of it? Well, the point of it wasn't... This is what you just reiterated

2:58:26 Advertisers gonna get bent out of shape because this old clunky I'd believe it to be a Chevy truck. I don't know for sure It was wrecked yeah, but they would be complain you know oh You know we do a lot of advertising with ABC Oh Yeah Don't you think probably why else would you leave it out? So that's the corruption that we fight on this show. So I do wish...so, that's why everyone should be happy about contributing to our uh..to what we're doing now. Well can i hook in with a little car news? Yeah sure! Okay um this is-I guess it was a big car show maybe this was the show that Volkswagen was supposed to present something at and they wound up... Oh that could be

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Biometric Car Seats, Health Monitoring Technology

New "Active Wellness" car seats are being developed that use biometric sensors to monitor a driver's heart rate and respiration. The system is designed to detect stress or fatigue and respond with "therapy" such as a massage or temperature adjustment. The hosts express skepticism about the privacy implications and the potential for this data to be used by insurance companies.

biometric sensors· car seats· health monitoring· stress detection· privacy

2:59:08 Now, we've already witnessed...well it wasn't all that hard of a prediction but we knew that once the GPS trackers came out and the insurance companies would first give you a cheaper rate if you let the insurance company track you. And its tracking through ODB2 port is not just your speed its all inputs as all kinds of things they're tracking and eventually you will not be able to get any kind of insurance without this type of device installed. And now we have a new device! Developers Forcea say their Active Wellness Seat is the world's first health monitoring car seat Its biometric sensing system detects if the driver has a drop in energy levels or is under stress, and responds with on-the move therapy The Active Wellness Seat is Forceas vision on the next level of personalized comfort

2:59:57 So what we basically do is to monitor respiration rate and heart rate in the seat, and we derive stress at energy level from that. And having this kind of wellness being information, we now can offer a closed-loop comfort system so in case you are stressed you get a relaxation massage I love how they're selling this. Yeah, we're gonna track exactly how you're feeling and if you feel stressed We'll give you a nice massage in case your have low energy level You get a very activation energizing massage They should just like like Pulp Fiction huge like a jam of the you know some amphetamines into your chest Oh Okay, I'm not drowsy anymore developed over five years in operation the seat analyzes The occupants heart rhythms and breathing patterns

3:00:46 This data is used to calculate their mental and physical state, with a message appearing on the screen in the cabin offering treatment. If the user accepts this recommendation they will receive a massage for the warming or cooling sensation through the seat's ventilation system to either relax or energize them. God I'm driving and feeling horny! Would you like a massage? Yeah that would be really good. Do you live? Yeah just like that, that's really nice. Would you like me to do more? This is going to be this is going to be used against you oh Of course it's already being used against you I think the point is. It's a beauty. It's a beauty hey, I got one one last thing in the big arena now The timing of this and this is a great little no agenda diddy people love this stuff

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North Korea Nuclear Threats, Japanese Missile Defense

North Korea has declared its nuclear facilities are fully operational and threatened to use weapons against the U.S. and its allies. In response, the U.S. is deploying missile defense systems, including THAAD batteries, to Guam and Japan. The hosts suggest these "provocations" are often timed to facilitate arms sales to regional allies like Japan.

north korea· kim jong-un· japan· missile defense· thaad

3:01:37 So we've been tracking the prime minister of Japan Abe, he's president or Prime Minister? President. Prime Minister. Abe. Abe is Prime Minister I don't know if he's a Prime Minister, President whatever it is. He's supposed to be highest in office let me look him up Yeah boss dude Boss dude Okay By the way Um So, he changes the Constitution. He's like we should be able to defend...we need to be able to... Prime Minister? Prime Minister I thought so. We need to be able to defend ourselves in conjunction with the United States or with Australia and of course we know why he did this because this is a big sales job for the arms industry certainly from the United States. Suckers. Yes suckers now when you have that set up so though the laws have changed

3:02:23 So now we can sell some arms to Japan, and we can get all riled up and all crazy. What do we need in order to get the sales cycle rolling? This is an ask John. An incident! Or how about the threat of an incident? That could work. Kim Jong-un rattles his nuclear saber at America, the head of his atomic energy program declaring the regime's ready to use its nuclear weapons anytime if the U.S and others pursue their quote reckless hostile policy toward North Korea. Kim is also declaring his nuclear program is a full speed. The regime says it's main nuclear complex at Yongbyon which produces material for nuclear weapons is operating normally

3:03:10 A US official tells CNN they have no reason to doubt the claim and analysts take the threat seriously. If you look here, the snow melt in this area... Snow melts again on the reactor And this is one of these little dipshitty consultants that CNN brings in You know, you've never seen it before. She's drawing on the smart board showing where the so-called nuclear reactors are because the snow is melting Are you kidding me? This would indicate that the reactor is functioning its giving up off heat causing that snow melt. Also here in August you can see tracks leading into the reactor area, that again shows there's significant activity going on at these sites.

3:04:05 Imperial Japan down to its knees with two nuclear weapons. So this is a regime that's been interested in nuclear weaponry for decades Kim's not stopping there. His regime announcing it is preparing to launch a satellite into orbit for scientific purposes The United Nations has warned North Korea to call off the rocket launch A satellite-launch vehicle similar to this one pictured here could be used by North Korea To develop an intercontinental ballistic missile that is capable of reaching the United States and delivering a nuclear warhead The North Koreans aren't there yet. Weapons experts say they haven't tested re-entry on those missiles and they could break apart Still, these moves bring a warning tonight from Washington demanding that Kim stop his provocations U.S officials taking no chances

3:04:53 Making sure Kim knows what kind of missile defenses America has at the ready. Ground-based interceptors to Alaska, surface combatants to the Western Pacific... Wait for it! A THAAD battery on Guam and other radar in Japan in order to be ready and vigilant for anything that the North Koreans may or may not do. Hello Japan our sales case is on the way I got a note from Aichi Kitagawa, who has been tracking this stuff going on and discussed that last incident the phony baloney thing with the speakers on one side and some poor dead guy who stepped on a mine. Says here's what i could find from Japanese media

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China-North Korea Relations, Victory Over Japan Day

Tensions between China and North Korea were highlighted during the "Victory Over Japan Day" celebrations, which Kim Jong-un did not attend. Reports suggest that North Korea orchestrated a border emergency with landmines to prevent South Korean President Park Geun-hye from attending the event. The complex diplomatic maneuvering between the three nations is often overlooked in Western media.

xi jinping· kim jong-un· south korea· dmz· landmines

3:05:37 Xi Jinping newly set September 3rd as Victory Over Japan Day, as part of his effort to show that he is in charge of the Communist Party. He's been trying to eradicate Zhang Zemin's influence in the name of corruption, the Corruption Elimination Campaign. All major Western nations' heads of states declined the invitation... Remember that invitation nobody went through this party? Yes! They all declined except the South Koreans. And Kim Jong-un was not invited, this would look as though South Korea is replacing the North as China's ally so Kim asked China not to invite her. She hates Kim so he ignored the request. Kim ordered his men to orchestrate national emergencies or President Park would be forced to stay

3:06:28 North Korea planted landmines in the DMZ injuring two South Koreans. South responded with propaganda broadcasting, North fired a warning shot, the South fired back Xi Jinping got pissed off and stopped all the trains to North Korea. North Korea was forced to negotiate and eventually apologize This is like a, this whatever the story that's going on over there. We have no clue we're completely... No idea. ...we should be doing these reports in the American media it's all bullcrap! But I have one last clip which is why I'd like to leave it with our audience because I don't know what it means

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Kra Canal Project, Thailand Shipping Routes

China is leading a proposal to construct the Kra Canal (or Thai Canal) across southern Thailand to bypass the congested Straits of Malacca. The $28 billion project would save shipping vessels three days of travel time and secure a vital oil route for China. While the canal offers significant economic benefits, it faces domestic opposition in Thailand over concerns of national division.

kra canal· thailand· china· straits of malacca· shipping

3:07:07 Oh, well you want to do that after I do this one clip? This one important piece of news that is not being discussed. Absolutely! What's not being discussed whatsoever... In fact, you may even be stunned when you hear this clip. I'm ready. What is that- You're always talking about the choke point over there in Asia where they are always trying to set things up so they can't get through because it is a chokepoint horrible the Straits of Malacca oh yes yeah where we have a whole bunch of ships Sailing around yeah, and then if you look at the map. It's a horrible like narrow Apparently where all the ship and they have to shipping traffic in the world has to go through that's right That's right play craw canal

3:07:50 Well, China is already building a new rail network in Thailand now as part of its One Belt One Road initiative. It's looking at an ambitious plan to dig a canal from one side of the country to the other The Krak Canal would cut 1200 kilometers of the existing sea route Our Thailand correspondent Martin Low has this report This is the Kra Buri River. It already cuts halfway across the Kra Isthmus in southern Thailand. Extending it could open up a waterway from one side of the country to the other. One look at a map and it's easy to see why this is something that has been talked about for 300 years. Building a canal across Thailand's narrow peninsula would open up a shipping route from the Indian Ocean, in the west, to the Pacific, in the east

3:08:40 It would save up to three days sailing on the route around Malaysia and avoid the notorious Straits of Malacca, which are overcrowded and plagued by pirates. 16 million barrels of oil a day pass through the Malacca Straits, including 80% of China's supply. China wants to secure alternative and the Caracas Canal also corresponds with its One Belt One Road initiative to improve trade routes across Asia and the world." You know these Chinas man they are unstoppable! They've got the new Panama Canal, the canal there in Nicaragua which is going to compete with the Panama Canal. The building this can also known as the Thai Canal I believe. Oh those guys they're not messing around! No they're not sitting on their hands You have a part two? Yeah if you want to play this in more detail. The benefit is enormous. Krahana happens to be at the choke point Who's this

3:09:44 Who is this guy? Some Asian analyst who said the word he used was choke point. Chokepoint, chokepoint, vogchokepoint One of the most important chokepoints in the world which is the state of Malacca. And nothing funnier than laughing about someone's accent, I just love that. And the Krakow Canal is going to be a very important alternative to the congested states of Malacca So far 13 different routes across the Kra Isthmus have been suggested The most expensive costing 28 billion US dollars China has taken the lead in studying proposals to fund and construct the canal

3:10:26 This would be an engineering project on a massive scale. The most ambitious of the plans is for a canal 30 metres deep and half-a-kilometre wide, capable of accommodating ocean going ships and tankers. Just building the canal would take 10 years. Nice! Within Thailand there's some concern that a canal could isolate the most southerly provinces. People don't yet know much about the canal so they cannot see the national benefit but they worry about Thailand being divided into two parts. Supporters say tolls, ship facilities and development along the canals banks would bring big financial rewards repaying the investment in 30 years. There would be a major economic benefit. Right!

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Final Sign-Off, Thursday Show Preview

The hosts conclude the episode with a final thank you to the Salt Lake City community and a preview of the upcoming Thursday show. Adam Curry will return to his home studio to continue the media deconstruction following the conclusion of his road tour. The episode ends with a montage of listener-requested clips and the show's signature sign-off.

sign-off· salt lake city· silicon valley· podcasting· deconstruction

3:11:20 Adam Curry. Shut up! Alright, that's the sign that I'm getting tired Yes you're getting tired and it was rapid- I just had to get that story out of the way because You're not gonna hear that story on any network that i can find Absolutely not And I will save my big question for Thursday Nooo It's savable, it's savable It's good, it'll be good I promise you it'll be goood Okay okay It'll be good, no worries man Alright everybody, thank you very much once again for tuning in to the best podcast in the universe. We highly appreciate everyone who has supported the Airstream of Consciousness and The I Love Laundry Tour To be continued! This is a never-ending tour Vagabonds In The Wild Vagabondo Be on the lookout for us And be on the lookout this coming Thursday when I will have rushed back... ...to bring you my end of the deconstruction and we'll see what John has brought us Always fun

3:12:24 And with that, I say thank you Salt Lake City. And in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. Hello Salt Lake City! I'm John C. Dvorak and I am here in Northern Silicon Valley Thanks a lot for your support. And we'll be back Join us please as you remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA Looking forward to another show right here on NOAgenda Now get out there and whoop almost behind

3:13:04 Someone's getting cornholed today I mean, your response to this Ashpen Sultani? Well the fact that he gave a tech talk is amazing on a number of levels. But going to the kind of substance of his speech there one thing to realize is in fact yes the NSA does employ minimization procedures when... In the face of overwhelming odds I'm left with only one option and I have to science this shit out of it

3:14:03 It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena. Somebody whose name was... Kenyon Edwards last year, his first name may have been Ben. Dude named Ben. And wash your hands after touching any org slash n a