Episode 746 · Sunday, 9 August 2015

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Media manipulation takes center stage as record-breaking debate ratings collide with subliminal branding and a legislative push for mandatory social media surveillance.

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Fox News and the Republican National Committee shattered cable records as 24 million viewers tuned in for the first primary debate, yet the broadcast faced immediate scrutiny for its production choices. Analysis of the visual framing reveals a potential bias in candidate introductions, where the prominent placement of the Facebook logo appeared to serve as a subliminal grading system for participants like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. This high-stakes media event highlighted a growing rift between traditional conservative gatekeepers and the populist energy surrounding the 2015 election cycle.

Beyond the debate stage, the Senate Intelligence Authorization Act for 2016 introduced Section 603, a controversial measure requiring social media companies to report suspected terrorist activity to federal authorities. In the Middle East, President Obama defended the Iran nuclear deal at American University, while Kurdish forces in Syria seized abandoned oil refineries to establish local energy independence. Meanwhile, the World Anti-Doping Agency faced a massive data leak exposing widespread corruption in international athletics, and the Pentagon attributed a sophisticated cyberattack on the Joint Chiefs of Staff to Russian state actors despite a lack of official White House confirmation.

Technical oddities surfaced during the week as Amazon Echo devices were repeatedly triggered by the word elections, raising significant privacy concerns for smart-speaker owners. The episode also explores the curious history of placebo thermostats in corporate offices and the marketing-driven breakup of Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog. Listeners from the UAE provide a unique perspective on how Gulf leaders view the American political landscape, while the No Agenda community celebrates new life and knightings in the Round Table.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Fox News Republican Debate Ratings, Cable Television Records

The first Republican primary debate of the 2015 cycle drew 24 million viewers on Fox News, setting a record for a non-sporting event on cable television. While the figures were high for cable, they remained significantly lower than the 88 million viewers who watched the 1980 Reagan-Carter debate on broadcast networks.

fox news· republican debate· ratings· cable tv· nielsen

00:00 Sounds like a warmonger if you ask me. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. Sunday August 9th 2015 time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 746 This is no agenda As always we're doing it for the kids and broadcasting live from FEMA region 6 here in the capital drone star state Austin Tejas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley. Did he say August? I'm John C Dvorak I did terrible, you know that's the only thing I don't like about doing this show

00:38 is I'm so aware of the date. Because, you know, uh... naming files by the date and you just see it creep up and like, ugh! August already. Summer's almost over! Yeah We had no fun No, no fun. No fun at all How are you doing? Good did you watch the debates? Yeah i did You know, this whole format is not serving the American voting public as far as I'm concerned. No it's a scam! It really truly was one of the... although the ratings were 24 million people watched? Yes, a record for non-sporting event Although the Reagan Jimmy Carter debate that wasn't a primary debate drew 88 million viewers

01:30 How come they said 24 minutes some sort of record well, they're lying surprise surprise surprise yeah Carter Reagan for 88 million 88 million viewers okay? So here's the record. They said I can figure this out by just thinking it way they think best rating for a cable show ah That would do it that's how you know than sports and that's how you do it Yeah You differentiate best rating for a show on channel anything less than Channel 10 kind of thing Anything not on UHF exactly Well, I saw the newsletter and so I know that you've got to run down But you you caught the same thing. I saw was this damn Facebook logo Yeah And this was subliminal but not even Not even just a you know kind of they weren't even hiding it what they were doing

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Facebook Logo Subliminal Messaging, Fox News Bias Claims

Analysis of the Fox News debate broadcast suggests the prominent placement of the Facebook "F" logo next to candidates served as a subliminal "fail" grade. Claims are made that Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg's Democratic ties influenced the production, while Mark Zuckerberg's political interests are characterized as focused primarily on H1B visa expansion and immigration.

facebook· fox news· mark zuckerberg· sheryl sandberg· subliminal messaging

02:28 No. Explain it was like, it was so obvious now I did get...I did notice that in the introductions we have a sheet here somewhere We're talking about the Republican debate the first one Yeah For for the historians listening to this show 100 years from now They put a big Facebook logo, which was a giant F next to all the guys. The newsletter shows clearly that when they showed the hosts, Megan and the gang, they didn't have an F by them because there were better than an F.

03:06 And these other guys were all flunks, but at the very beginning they didn't have the same shot. So they had a bunch of variations when they introduced everybody. They had already picked their winners based on whether there was an F in the shot or not Yeah, yeah exactly. So who did not have an F in the shot? Well the ones who didn't have an F in the shot... But F in American school system is a flunk. It means fail. Failed well failed. Yeah it stands for fail but its referred to as a flunk. Oh that guy's a flunk he's an idiot. I think America is the only country in the world that still and I don't know if we still do grade A B C D E F. No no you stopped. And what happened to E? There was no grading anymore How come there was no E? I never understood why there was no E

03:48 There there was an E in the funny thing about he do He was it was the top rating. It was excellent Oh, okay just to make it more complicated when I was in Chicago. I was a little kid I was in the fourth grade. I got all ease which was all straight A's I bet you did I did goody-goody two shoes You bring an apple for that slap actually by the teacher oh I got irked about it. So irked that I just bared down and got a straight A's to tell her to screw herself." I didn't even understand why Facebook was in this deal at all other than my original analysis of Fox News, which is its run by Democrats. That's the only thing that makes any sense. And so I looked into Zuckerberg... Sandburg is the only real... She's a staunch Democrat

04:37 She's gonna vote for Hillary. We know that...and she's the COO, so she's the one who would call the shots at this level." Zuckerberg probably doesn't care but Zuckerberg is pretty ambivalent about politics and he just donates to anyone who's pro-immigration because like everyone else in Silicon Valley... He needs Indians! They need Indians they need H1Bs they need cheap workers to get so they can fire the Americans Yes yes So that's pretty straightforward Post away people I'm in agreement. It's very strange that they were a sponsor of this thing and they were brought into it constantly

05:13 But the way it was brought in is like, oh this is really cool. We're so cyber and now we have... I mean hello? AOL was doing this 15 years ago! This is not new. This isn't that cool. It's not happening. Yeah you're right. It is the new AOL when we talking about- Alright let's go over a couple of things one day here's the view that didn't get the F at the beginning all right The first thing they opened with Trump of course had a huge F And just about the opening it was so obvious They were out to put him down. Oh, yeah and they had him lit funny so he's had the squint Yes Lit Funny and it also made his hair look even more orange than usual or whatever that thing is on his head That was so mean And then at the end of this show It was even worse when they had Luntz come out with his focus group Yeah And everybody in the focus group went like this How many people in the focus group liked Trump before the debates? They all raised their hand how many after

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Megyn Kelly Focus Group, Donald Trump Media Treatment

Fox News host Megyn Kelly and pollster Frank Luntz are accused of using rigged focus groups to create a narrative of declining support for Donald Trump. Audio clips from the post-debate coverage show participants criticizing Trump's "whining" and "crony capitalism" while praising other candidates for their professional demeanor.

megyn kelly· frank luntz· donald trump· fox news· focus group

06:11 one guy. And then they slammed him and slammed him and slammed him, and then in another one which I have a clip of, Kelly has her show and she brings out a group... Actually we can start at the end by playing Kelly's clip. This is to show you how slanted foxes and how they want Trump because they she does the same thing that that Luntz did with it with the rigged audience and unfortunately I guess somebody didn't get a clue and so things to get the one person some little Chinese girl says yeah, I like chump is he was true to form And then every then they go on off of after him listen to this Let's do something akin to what Frank Lentz did last night where he just asked let's start with She even says it right there. We'll do the same stupid thing sort of star

06:59 going into last night's debate, Donald Trump. How many people here liked Donald Trump before last night's debate? Ooh, ooh pick me. And how many people like him now? Ooh pick me! Okay so similar- oh he won over some people too interesting Alright let me start with you on that Rachel why did you like him why do you like him now I think that he really held his own and that he stayed true to his personality and ultimately you know that's what we expected of him Anybody else have a different reaction Who is weak Himo Sabe who is the weak Yeah a mouse in her pocket Oh okay Go ahead I like Trump more Before the debate, afterwards they said there's no crying in baseball. There is no whining in politics and here was a little whining in certain parts of the debate If you're going to be leading our country I like what he says but if your also whining at the same time I think you lose a little bit of it. I thought they were all whiners

07:48 You should have heard the first debate. I have some minutes. Yeah, good guy. Anybody? I feel like he responded to your question about essentially buying politicians and things of that nature by basically arguing, I'm not just a crony capitalist. I'm the best crony capitalist. And the classiest crony capitalists. And from my perspective, that's just not a solution. That's not a guy who is interested in solutions. I don't know about you but I would want to pay the Clintons stay away from this guy as a pro. Who is he? He's got a dumb pro speaking voice. The guys are for my wedding. I think he's also proved himself that he is more style than substance, if anything less. So one slam after another? Yeah it just doesn't stop now so the way we can view this one is again Fox News its run by the Democrats all evidence points towards that and it's meant as some kind of balance to give you some illusion that you have some choice I presume

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Visual Graphics Analysis, Fox News Candidate Favoritism

A detailed review of the candidate introductions reveals variations in how the Facebook and Fox logos were framed, suggesting a hierarchy of favoritism. Candidates like Jeb Bush and Scott Walker received cleaner shots without the "F" logo, while Ted Cruz and Donald Trump were framed with large, stationary logos interpreted as negative branding.

jeb bush· scott walker· ben carson· ted cruz· on-screen graphics

08:39 Well, let me go over the number of the people. I've got the whole list here with the following intros and here's how it went there was two elements to this. There was the F, the big giant F next to him meaning flunked and then there was a little f in the corner that took four forms It took just a small F with the Fox debate logo. Then it took a moving F, the F grew and caught your attention and was a big giant F at the end then it was moving smaller that was the third option then the fourth one was just a stationary giant F Now the guys who got no big F's next to them on the intros were Bush, hello? Walker

09:24 Mm-hmm. Uh, Huckabee? No, not not how could be sorry not I could be Carson and Cruz right those are the four that got no after their intros hmm now the crews had the The large stationary F. So I'm eliminating him He's off he's not there's no chance. He got the big F. He's gotta go Carson Got these small little f and it was stationery so that so he was actually at the top of the list in terms of favoritism and then Bush had the no F plus a moving, growing F. And then Walker had the no F and a shrinking F." So those are the guys that Fox would love to see for my interpretation be president. Carson was the first time he presented himself and I have a clip of...as far as I'm concerned, he's eliminated. He was asked a simple question, couldn't answer it in a way that

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Ben Carson Interrogation Comments, Geneva Convention Discussion

Dr. Ben Carson's debate performance is criticized following his refusal to rule out waterboarding or "enhanced interrogation" techniques. Carson argued that war should not be "politically correct," a stance interpreted by some as a disregard for international law and the Geneva Conventions.

ben carson· waterboarding· torture· geneva convention· interrogation

10:23 doesn't indicate he just wants to torture, he's a torturer. He is another one of these Republicans who thinks it cool that a sadist likes torturing people. Dr Carson in one his first acts as commander-in-chief President Obama signed an executive order banning enhanced interrogation techniques in fighting terror As president would you bring back waterboarding? You know, what we do in order to get the information that we need is our business. And I wouldn't necessarily be broadcasting to everybody what we're going to do. We've gotten into this mindset of fighting politically correct wars. There is no such thing as a politically correct war." It would have been so much cooler if you said, well I know how to open someone's skull up and get the piece of the brain that makes them tell everything. If he had a sense of humor... Oh wow! You-I just lost you John your level went down to almost zero. Uh i should be fine now? Okay yeah

11:25 This is the Skype connection here for some reason. It's going from white to orange. Orange is the old white? He could have done a lot, what he should have done was simply say torture is illegal internationally. He went on and on and said I don't care about the Geneva Conventions, we shouldn't be telling people what were doing We never did tell people that we're waterboarding anybody it was a whistleblower who did So, he's got the whole...so as far as I'm concerned, he is eliminated completely. As far as I am concerned. Why was he? Why did even get in this race to begin with? To be a commentator on cable news or...? It's too boring for that! Hmmmm....I think he is an egomaniac And why do we call this debate at all? This is not a debate There is no debating going on No it's question and answers from news models It should be called Q&A Yes

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump Immigration Claims, Mexican Government Comic Book

Donald Trump defended his claims that the Mexican government intentionally sends "bad" people across the U.S. border to avoid social costs. The discussion references a 2005 Mexican comic book that allegedly provided instructions on how to cross the border illegally and navigate the American system.

donald trump· immigration· mexico· border patrol· comic book

12:23 Okay, well anyway. What else do we have? Can I throw a Trump thing and I don't think you have any trump clips You know actually I don't So I'm endorsing him as you know yeah And I thought he had no two really strong moments And I think this is what resonates with all American people. Although, man...I was cruising through Facebook and Twitter but Facebook in particular the meme was DON'T WATCH IT! Don't watch the debates! It's so silly don't watch it! Don't watch it! Don't- I'm not gonna watch! I'm not watching! I got something better to do! That's your American public that wants to be informed. It was just disgusting! You have repeatedly said that you have evidence that the Mexican government is doing this, but that you have evidence you refused or declined to share Why not use this first Republican presidential debate to share your proof with the American people?

13:18 So if it weren't for me, you wouldn't even be talking about illegal immigration Chris I thought this was true. This is true. I agree that was true a Subject that was on anybody's mind until I brought it up at my at my announcement and I said Mexico is sending except the reporters because they're a very dishonest lot generally speaking in the world of politics. They didn't cover my statement the way i said it. This is what endears me to this guy, he's just saying it! The fact

13:54 Since then, many killings murders crime drugs pouring across the border are money going out and the drugs coming in. And I said we need to build a wall and it has to be built quickly. And I don't mind having a big beautiful door in that wall so that people can come into this country legally but we need Jeb to build a wall We need to keep Illegals out! Did he say we need Jeb to build a wall? Well, in the full question they tried to do like a little debate by saying why don't you tell Jeb Bush what you think about immigration which was completely stupid so Jeb Bush is looking at him and then Trump says yeah Jeb there ya go. Mr Trump I'll give you 30 seconds

14:45 I'll give you 30 seconds to answer my question, which was what evidence do you have specific evidence that the Mexican government is sending across the border? Thirty seconds. Border Patrol. I was at the border last week. Border Patrol people found that I deal with, that i talk to they say this is what's happening because our leaders are stupid. Our politicians are stupid and the Mexican government is much smarter much sharper much more cunning and they send the bad ones over because they don't want want to pay for them, they don't want to take care of them. Why should they when the stupid leaders in the United States will do it for him? And that's what happening whether you like it or not." I think that appeals to a broad range of people. Well, I think it does too but he still ducked the question when his question could be answered. I'm going to mention a couple things here... I agree with you no one was really answering questions when it was so simple But there were a couple things that he could have pointed out which would just stop these guys nerve-

15:47 track is there's TV shows in Mexico that show what you do if you get in the United States. And, if anybody remembers from a few years ago and I think it was during our show period probably about five years ago they had this comic book that showed what to do how to get across the border way...it was all in Spanish, it was distributed throughout the northern part of Mexico and how to sneak into the United States It's a very famous comic book. It has been floating around, and it is online you can find it. I hope its still online but I have a copy of it somewhere and there could've just thrown anything out there other than being belligerent although it was funny. It was 2005 when it came out The comic book? Yeah Oh as far as I know that long ago yeah yeah yeah I'll put in the show notes

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Lindsey Graham Debate Performance, Subliminal Audio Gaffes

Senator Lindsey Graham's performance in the "happy hour" debate is analyzed, focusing on his emotional appeal regarding Social Security and his family history. A specific audio moment where a moderator used the word "query" is highlighted as a potential subliminal jab at the Senator's personal life.

lindsey graham· social security· fox news· subliminal· query

16:38 How to be in a league. So the question is answerable there, and these you know Wallace should have he just knew that Trump this was bullcrap This whole thing was bull crap no doubt about it yeah let's go do another One of my favorite was the first debate, was the better debates. Now what they did is since there were so many potential candidates they had what they call a happy hour debate which was earlier and...did anyone watch that at all? Did that have any ratings? No I don't think so either. All right What'd you find well couple things Carly Fiorina definitely was good And she had the best clothes and she and we'll play in a second Lindsey Graham was also one of my favorites but the bot subliminal messaging

17:19 There's a moment, I want you to listen to this. This is Lindsey Graham and the subliminal message which is delivered by the Fox people. I'm going to suggest that this was a subliminal thing at the very end after Graham has done with his whiny horrible memorized 12th grader sounding little spiel he does about why he should be such a good president and then you hear this...just play it now we'll discuss it Thank you. The first thing I'd tell the American people, whatever it takes to defend our nation, I would do

17:55 To the 1% who've been fighting this war for over a decade, I try my best to be a commander in chief worthy of your sacrifice. He sounds like a real leader doesn't he? Oh yeah! We're gonna lose Social Security and Medicare if Republicans and Democrats do not come together and find a solution like Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. I'll be the Ronald Reagan if I can find a Tip O'Neill When I was 21, My mom died when I was 22, my dad died we went to the liquor store a restaurant, bar and we lived in the back. Every penny we needed from social every penny we got from Social Security because my sister was a minor we needed today I'm 60 i am not married don't have any kids. I would give up some Social Security to save the system that Americans are going depend on now and then the future half of American seniors would be in poverty without a Social Security check if you make me your president I will put the country ahead of the party I'm gonna do what it takes to defend this nation

18:53 This nation's been great to me, and that's the only way I know to pay you back Thank You thank you senator. I need a two-word answer to the following query Okay, what was this subliminal thing there? Query hmm I needed two word answer to the following question But did they said query he's pronounced it queer query oh Oh, I get it Lindsey Graham gay nice No, not married. No children 60 year old man. Query! Thoughts like a 12-year old All he needs is a lisp and we're good to go I'd like a... query Query? Query anybody? Good catch Yeah i thought it was like uh You know but speaking of that here's what heres the one thing that was completely odd for me watching this debate

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Amazon Echo Security, Alexa Wake Word Glitches

The Amazon Echo smart speaker reportedly triggered multiple times during the debate broadcast because the wake word "Alexa" sounds similar to the word "elections." This is cited as a significant security and privacy concern for users whose devices may record or act on television audio.

amazon echo· alexa· privacy· security breach· smart speakers

19:48 At least six times, not this early one but the prime time one. At least six times whenever someone said election or elections my Amazon echo kicked in She was hearing because her name is Alexa that's the wake word So elections and Alexa? Elections yeah and it kept kicking in when someone said the elections This is such a security breach If you get on TV talk about the elections or reorder all that stuff for me. That's funny! Yeah, well they better do something because it's getting annoying if you have the tv on and your Amazon Echo is within earshot it's going to kick in continuously who knows what's gonna happen? Well... All hell can break loose so you get more tide in the mail okay Google

20:40 Let's pay attention to this. Okay, Google. Hey Siri what do you say? So Rubio who everybody thought did a great job I thought was kind of an if you actually listen to what he said He's kind of an idiot and then there was this and everybody Who is on Twitter during this thing and noticed it I noticed that we all noticed it It's actually double bad play the Rubios an idiot clip On Facebook And here is a video question from Tanya Cialco From Philadelphia Here she is Please describe one action you would do to make the economic environment more favorable for small businesses and entrepreneurs And anyone dreaming of opening their own business. That's a great question

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Marco Rubio Economic Claims, Rand Paul Campaign Strategy

Senator Marco Rubio is criticized for claiming the 2015 economy was "dramatically different" from five years prior. Additionally, Rand Paul's aggressive debate strategy against Donald Trump is discussed in the context of his campaign manager's appearance on the Chris Matthews show.

marco rubio· rand paul· chris matthews· economy· campaign manager

21:23 Senator, how do you answer Tanya? That's a great question. First of all it begins by having leaders that recognize that the economy we live in today is dramatically different from the one we had five years ago. It's not different than five years ago! It's not dramatically different he says the economy is dramatically different yeah yeah yeah No, no. Sorry It's not true you telling me Dramatically different we were doing the show five years ago yeah, I didn't seem such a man is he talking about just as bad Yeah Anyway so that was wasn't good Then you saw Rand Paul. Don't what do you think? He did oh

22:17 I think he comes across as very angry, which is kind of his MO. That's now the way he wants to come across... He's fed up with everything but has no control over his voice His face looks really taut and stressed out No matter what he says... We choose people like we choose actors He has no personality of a dishrag. It's not going to work. Now we know that he is being obviously misled by his campaign manager who showed up on the Chris Matthews show

22:59 and clay and claimed he won the debate actually like what it was is a connected as you guys plan early on your gonna take on the donald right out of their right out about you when after well i think senator pauline one of the first in this room with me You know, Trump is brilliant with this. For those of you who didn't see it they started off the debate by saying anyone who will not pledge... Yes Which is...you might as well just put the spotlight on Donald Trump and say hey we're gonna make you look like a douche

23:35 Well, Megan talked about this and she said that they had discussed whether or not Trump would do this. They all had bets that he would but why wouldn't you take advantage? Trump had the most minutes. He had over 11 minutes of talking time which was one minute above Jeb Bush who is actually second even though no one noticed. what they were talking about, it was if you...will you pledge that you will not run as an independent? Raise your hand. You know if-if you do not want to take the pledge which is even worse because of the reverse saying hey who's going to pledge and everyone's hand would go up except for Trump now its just Trump singled out in the middle of the stage yeah uh... and it's brilliant because this keeps this he holds a republican party hostage by saying I could go independent at any time I think it's a brilliant strategy I agree

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Carly Fiorina Closing Statement, Hillary Clinton Criticism

Carly Fiorina is praised for a strong closing statement that directly targeted Hillary Clinton's record on Benghazi and emails. In contrast, Lindsey Graham's closing remarks focused heavily on the Iranian nuclear threat and the radical nature of the Ayatollah.

carly fiorina· hillary clinton· benghazi· planned parenthood· 2016 election

24:21 And it also gave him the first shot at talking for the night. He, like, gets to set the pace. I'll talk if...some other guy should have lifted his hand and said, I wanna talk." No, they gave it to Trump so Trump took over the thing right there. He sure did. Except again he had a big F next to him and then you had Fox completely doing everything they could to blast the guy. And Fox is totally corrupt in this. And anybody who doesn't see this is nuts, but they actually were blasted... They made all the Republicans get a big F. The best one that came out was Carly Fiorina. I have her closing and she got, by the way cut off to she had a huge round of applause at the end of this but it was very it was the best of all the closings anyone did hers was the best She targeted Hillary Clinton properly and she actually said nobody else that I recall Actually said thank you at the end after she'd closed her After she did her close Thank You governor Carly Fiorina closing statement

25:21 Hillary Clinton lies about Benghazi, she lies about emails. She is still defending Planned Parenthood and she is still her party's frontrunner 2016 is going to be a fight between conservatism and a Democrat Party that is undermining the very character of this nation We need a nominee who is going to throw every punch not pole punches And someone who cannot stumble before he even gets into the ring I am not a member of the political class. I am a conservative, I can win this job. I can do this job! I need your help. I need your support. I will with your help and support lead the resurgence of this great nation Thank you. Thank you. And she works for HPO

26:11 HBO, right. Now just by contrast since I do have the clip and he's one of my favorites now Lindsey Graham here is his closer that supposed to like convince us to vote for him Senator Graham We need somebody ready to be commander-in-chief on day one who understands there are no moderates in Iran They've been killed a long time ago That the ayatollah is a radical jihadist who really means it when he chants death to America death to Israel This deal has given him a pathway to a bomb, a missile to deliver it and money to pay for at all

26:48 We need a president who can solve our problems, bring us together. We're becoming Greece if we don't work together at the end of the day ladies and gentlemen our best days are ahead of us only if we work together and I intend to put this country on a path of success by working together and doing the hard things that should have been done a very long time ago. Good query Unbelievable. Okay, I got another my second and only other Trump clip Another reason why I think Americans of all political persuasions just have to agree with some of the things the guy says Mr.. Trump It's not just your past support for single-payer health care You've also supported a host of other liberal policies

27:31 policies. You've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included Nancy Pelosi you explained away those donations saying you did that to get business related favorites and you said recently quote when you give they do whatever the hell you want them to do. You better believe it so what specifically did they do? If I ask him, if I need him. You know most of the people on this stage i've given to just so you understand a lot of money Not me Was that Huckabee who said not me Rubio Oh Rubio But what is this Charlie Crist thing? That someone's yelling in the background

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump Campaign Contributions, Hillary Clinton Wedding Attendance

Donald Trump openly admitted during the debate that he used campaign contributions to buy influence with politicians like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. He cited Clinton's attendance at his wedding as a specific example of the transactional nature of the American political system.

donald trump· hillary clinton· nancy pelosi· campaign finance· cronyism

26:48 We need a president who can solve our problems, bring us together. We're becoming Greece if we don't work together at the end of the day ladies and gentlemen our best days are ahead of us only if we work together and I intend to put this country on a path of success by working together and doing the hard things that should have been done a very long time ago. Good query Unbelievable. Okay, I got another my second and only other Trump clip Another reason why I think Americans of all political persuasions just have to agree with some of the things the guy says Mr.. Trump It's not just your past support for single-payer health care You've also supported a host of other liberal policies

27:31 policies. You've also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included Nancy Pelosi you explained away those donations saying you did that to get business related favorites and you said recently quote when you give they do whatever the hell you want them to do. You better believe it so what specifically did they do? If I ask him, if I need him. You know most of the people on this stage i've given to just so you understand a lot of money Not me Was that Huckabee who said not me Rubio Oh Rubio But what is this Charlie Crist thing? That someone's yelling in the background

28:17 that was rubio again with charlie chris some kind of jerry christmas the guy rubio ran against he was all political hack in florida they would win and i arrived ever be defeated by a member party came up and kick him out so trump is gonna say something here which As far as I can tell, is not being explored. When someone says something this explosive which of course we've been saying on this show since we started the show and everyone knows this is going on everyone understands how campaign contributions or just contributions to any politician's fund works Trump says it there's no discussion about Donald if you end your campaign I hope you will give to me Good Sounds good sounds good to me governor

28:56 I will tell you that our system is broken. I give to many people before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody when they call, I give and you know what? When I need something from them two years later three years later, I call them They are there for me so what's the broken system What'd you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi well i'll tell you what with Hillary Clinton I said be at my wedding And she came to my wedding You know why? What a way to make her your bitch Fantastic! I had no choice because i gave. I gave to a foundation that frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn't know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world and it was. And he puts her on notice right there brilliant

29:42 Yeah, it's definitely good. That's outstanding and the way that is spun is well Trump admits to being corrupt And then like that one guy said on the Kelly thing could crony capitalist He never said he was a crony capitalists because he's not crony Capitalist is you mean sure you don't do any of that stuff? You just buddies with somebody exactly exact so I had a I had dinner in attendance wasn't millennial And of course I'm very interested, you know. What do you think of the candidates? And she said...I said how about Hillary Clinton? Oh no! Toxic! Now this is an 18 year old

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

iSideWith.com Questionnaire, Millennial Political Slant

A live walkthrough of the iSideWith.com political questionnaire explores how the site matches users with candidates. Despite answering with a mix of views, the results often skew toward Bernie Sanders for millennials, though a host's test resulted in a tie between Marco Rubio and Mike Huckabee.

isidewith· bernie sanders· donald trump· millennials· political quiz

30:17 I want to interrupt you. You're going to tell us, I've been catching it all over the news these millennials don't like Hillary. No toxic because she stands on the wrong side of women's rights and these are all the things that are being said and so i said well what about Donald Trump? No, of course not. He's just crazy! What about Lindsey Graham? Yes everybody she knows is all in on Lindsey Graham... I'm sorry Bernie Sanders with Lindsey Graham. Yeah. Bernie Sanders. Not Lindsey Graham. I'm sorry now another old guy being ageist but yes and i said well you know what is the appeal of Bernie Sanders is it the grandfather things no no do are you familiar with I side with say what I side with

31:11 So no, everyone I know is going to iSideWith.com and there's a questionnaire and it tells you who you side with And I took this questionnaire and did really honestly by no means am I Republican, I'm certainly not a Demotaut But I go through the questions and it's obviously slanted, I think in some way. But it may be really a good questionnaire Out comes 89% I side with Donald Trump And I know that not all the answers I was giving were by any means all trumpish It seems that this isidewith.com is being used or pushed upon millennials and they're getting Bernie Sanders out of it

32:03 Interesting. You want to try it? We have to dig into this. Do you want to try it, do you want run through real quick? Oh sure! Okay now every question also has a how important is this to you I'm just not not use the slider just leave that in the middle but think thats bull crap unless you feel really something really strongly let me know turn the slider okay here we go okay we got him here we go what is your stance on abortion pro-choice pro life or other stances other stances others dances Oh, and then I... oh! That's interesting. You get a sub-menu? I hadn't seen this. Ban after first trimester pro life but allow in cases of rape incest or danger to mother child health pro choice i don't agree with it but it's not my right for the government to ban abortions pro choice but providing birth control sex education social service should help reduce number abortions or add your own stance

32:55 All the above. Okay, well that's not possible Well... You can't have them all you have to choose one I can't choose one they're all valid then click the last one whatever my own ideas okay alright next do you support the legalization of same-sex marriage yes no other stances what if your ambivalent? you can do other stances okay i'll take other stances and just add your own stance right You're ambivalent. Should a business based on religious belief be able to deny service to a customer? Yes, no other stances Well that's another one I would also say have a singular opinion on...I would take other stances This is not gonna work! Well that's what i'm saying...okay okay! Taking the test should the government require health insurance companies provide free birth control yes no other stances

33:51 I would say no. Should the U.S remove references to God from currency, federal buildings national monuments and other aspects of government? No! Should the federal government allow the death penalty? Yeah i think it should. I would say yes as long as we can televise otherwise not so cool. Should terminally ill patients be allowed to end their lives via assisted suicide? Fine with me. Should the federal government allow states to fly the confederate flag They can fly whatever they want. But listen to this, thank you because that's the red herring should the federal government allow states to fly the confederate flag? They have no say over that! No we don't. So yes should the government increase environmental regulations to prevent global warming? Go back to that other question on the flight what did you check I said yes The federal government hasn't got a saying it why would i say yeah I'm sorry then we're saying that we...I'm sorry you're right We should say

34:51 Well, there's yes each state has the right to display whichever flag they choose. But it still is a loaded question but you can... It's still a specious argument because the federal government has no say. We'll just say yes okay? Should the government increase environmental regulations for global warming No. Should national parks continue to be preserved and protected by the federal government? That's what they are, they're national parks of course! Do you support the use of hydraulic fracking to extract oil and natural gas resources? Personally no. Okay economic issues should employers be required to pay men and women who perform the same work the same salary? Of course! Should able-bodied mentally capable adults who receive welfare be required to work

35:36 No. Should all welfare recipients be tested for drugs? No! I think yes if they're going to share. Should every person purchasing a gun be required to pass a criminal and public safety background check? That's a good one, I would say technically they shouldn't. I say yes though but you say no? I'll say no okay Do you support increased gun control No. Hey, it's not me asking the survey you get don't get all huffy and me like I'm just asking questions by my emotional reflection yes to the surveyors. I am your Megan Kelly should there be term limits set for members of Congress? Yeah. Yes health care do you support that patient protection and Affordable Care Act Obamacare no Do you support the legalization of marijuana

36:26 Of course. Should the federal government increase funding of health care for low-income individuals, i.e., Medicaid? Read that again? Should the federal government increase funding of health care for low income individuals? Is there not enough money already? Yes no other stances I'm gonna put other stances because why should they increase it they're already doing it okay Where do you side on education issues would you support increasing taxes on the rich in order to reduce interest rates for student loans This is another other stances. There should be no student loans. I agree Do you support the adoption of Common Core national education standards? No, please Foreign policy sure that we're almost there to the government decrease military spending

37:14 Yeah. Should foreign terrorism... They can't even, if they audit it and tell us what they're spending this money on as we know that the Defense Department can't be audited Again this is just what millennia... It's a waste of money! This is-this is a trick questionnaire for millennials I'm telling you It is, obviously. Should foreign terrorism suspects be given constitutional rights? Foreign terror no No that's a constitutional issue should the U.S formally declare war on ISIS What?! NO It's bogus. Should illegal immigrants be given access to government subsidized health care? Well, they're going to get healthcare one way or the other I think yeah...I was when i went to Canada and got a flu shot like X number of years back when I was getting flu shots ummm.... I use the Canadian healthcare system I think if someone comes here yeah they can use it Answer the question! I think you have to pay a fee so make it out there whatever Other stances okay

38:16 Do you support stronger measures to increase our border security? Sure. Okay, and then today's trending question the last one which party do you most identify with? Democrat, Republican. Other stances. So you can do independent... Where's the independent? Yeah! Where is the independent or progressive? When you do other stance where you do other... Or where is the libertarian? When you do other stances, you get a submenu which says Libertarian Green Constitution Independent Socialist Justice Prohibition Independence and as your own stance independence. Not independence. Alright show my results alright ladies and gentlemen we are now matching your answers to the candidates we are Bernie Sanders. Wouldn't that be funny

38:57 All right, hold on. We're matching your answers up to 70-80% done and here it comes! You side with... oh man 70 it's a tie 70 Oh man this is great 76 percent tie between Marco Rubio and Mike Huckabee with a close second tie between Carly Fiorina and Bobby Jindal What? Hillary Clinton is the bottom of your list with 37%. Yeah, yeah. Well that's good news! At least I got that part right. I already showed why I wouldn't vote for Rubio he's an idiot. Five years... You should have put that under other stances he's an idiot

39:36 And Jindal is just a kind of a milquetoast guy. I don't go for him. Huckabee's religious, he's a Baptist minister! I'd never vote for him. We don't want some religious guy in the White House like that. He's funnier though and very polished. So Donald Trump is low on your list. Bernie Sanders is even below Trump. Okay? Yeah. Anyway so this what the millennials are using as their guide Well, there's a lot of questions in there that are trick obviously and they're trap questions. And if people really thought about these questions most people I think would answer almost identical to what i just did. Yeah it's the way I said probably well Rubio has got a fighting chance then. There you go. Here is the problem with Rubio he looks like he's 18

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PBS NewsHour Analysis, Mark Shields on Trump

Pundits Mark Shields and David Brooks discussed Donald Trump's debate performance on the PBS NewsHour, with Shields arguing that Trump's attack on Megyn Kelly was a strategic mistake. The segment also addresses the "Mother Church" status of Fox News for conservative voters.

pbs newshour· mark shields· david brooks· judy woodruff· megyn kelly

40:27 Oh, that doesn't matter. That's being ageist! No no it is totally ageist because he just does not look... He doesn't have I mean yeah on the debate thing he looked pretty good up there but i've seen him sit down on some of these sit-down shows like that crazy show in the morning with uh whatever it was Brzezinski and the rest of them. He looks like a kid and then he acts like a kid. He's just not mature Do you want to do more or can I one wind us up with the... Yeah, let's finish. I do have one more thing. There is only one left, I think. Yeah but I got one last thing to share but... Okay well let me just play this last thing. This was kind of a little off topic but they're talking about the debates and again we have Shields and Brooks and both them think... Brooks says it is on the PBS NewsHour, Brooks says that Trump's not a real candidate and he just sloughs him off and laughs him off doesn't care

41:15 who supposedly represents the Republicans. The Democrat shields, the old hang dog looking guy he thinks Trump blew it! He's not gonna... He's gonna lose all his numbers nobody is going to support him anymore after this stupidity that he showed in a debate and in the process he somehow insults Judy Woodruff who was there questioning him And Woodruff, unfortunately it's better to watch it. She is kind of smiling at the beginning and then she's glaring at him and she's very stern looking. She's very annoyed by what he has to say. Who were tough? They really did. I really think that he made a serious mistake by going retaliating attacking Megyn Kelly first

42:01 When she asked him about his comments. I said women is misogynist to comments first of all Fox News is the validator it's the gatekeeper for Republican particularly conservative voters and you don't go after, it isn't like your attacking Chuck Todd or Judy Woodruff, some member of the liberal elite establishment. You're attacking the Mother Church when you go out to the polls. Well let's make a distinction here. I'm not part of the liberal media. No but I am talking about by definition of conservative America You know, the funny thing is this whole Donald Trump as a misogynist hates women says horrible things was rude to Megyn Kelly. Fox News by definition is rude to women there's only babe show me one ugly hag on Fox News and then they can have something to talk about They've nothing but beautiful women and they're also smart but they're all beautiful

42:55 Yeah. And it's sexy and they dress sexy, and it's so... Show a lot of leg. Oh man! I tried to find all these other instances where Donald Trump had said horrible things about women, uh, and there really aren't any. There was this website that did the same thing. There was a website that identified supposedly these comments that were all about Rosie O'Donnell. Except for one or two. And but they try to make Trump look like he's constantly, he is an insulting guy. So you just assume that he is doing this constantly and you don't know that. Oh no! But that's the way... The only person being honest and real for my money was Donald Trump and that's why he's dangerous everybody else is playing the game. We're so used to it that people who are all in, its jarring when someone doesn't play the game and comes out with something else

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Fosbury Flop Analogy, Political Methodology Changes

The "Fosbury Flop" in high jumping is used as an analogy for how new technology or environments allow for radical changes in methodology. Just as foam pits allowed jumpers to land on their backs, changing media landscapes allow candidates like Donald Trump to ignore traditional political rules.

fosbury flop· high jump· dick fosbury· olympics· technology

43:51 And that's what I like about him. I really do, it's very entertaining and he brightens my life. I'm glad Donald Trump is in my life. He brings light. The Fosbury flop of politics! He bring... the what? Fosbury. What's the Fosbury flop? This was a guy during the Olympics for the American Games or something this guy from the University of Oregon reinvented high jumping High jumping used to always be, you always used to do it even when I was a kid. You'd jump over the high bar and use scissors. You go up in the air as high as you can and bring one leg up then drop it then bring your other leg back down again and that was the scissors. Oh! And later turned into going backwards over your back?

44:33 Oh, Fosbury. Because what changes... every time any technology changes you have to be on the lookout for a change in methodology involving the technology. In this case they changed from like a sawdust wood chip pit to a big foam thing. Right yes And so once the foam thing showed up, then you could do that different jump. You could jump over backwards head first, but you would kill yourself if you were doing it in the sawdust right? If you did it in the sawdust! But with a big foam thing, you just bounce off of the foam And this reinvented the whole model. It was funny to watch this guy who wasn't that good at it, but he won because he was good enough and then when they real superstars are real athletes started do it then their records were just flying. There is just a old record sold scissors records or joke

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Diamond and Silk, Trump YouTube Support

A viral YouTube video featuring two women, later known as Diamond and Silk, shows them "stumping for Trump" and praising his independence from donors. The hosts discuss whether the support is organic or orchestrated, noting how Trump embodies the classic American success story.

diamond and silk· youtube· donald trump· stump for the trump· viral video

45:22 Anyway, this is what's going on. Out there in the wild now... Now this is so good that I went looking as deep as I could to see if these two women, if they were somehow... They're shills, they're being paid but I could not find it This is the viewer's view and these are two black women of middle age And one is doing a lot of talking and her job apparently is to go right! That's right Oh yeah hell yeah You know one of those And they did this nine minute YouTube video about Donald Trump. Have you seen it? It's called Call and Response. Call and Response, there you go. So they're stumping for Trump I pulled just about 1 min 15 of these. You would think these would be the typical people who would not want to vote for Trump. Donald Trump is a shot caller! A baller! Let me tell you why he went to that border. Tell me why He went to that border to take measurements

46:19 He needed to pick out the color, he wanted to pick out the price and know whether it was gonna be a picket fence or wooden fence or steel fence. He was down there, he's missing stuff for that damn fence because He gonna secure that damn boy. And you see him to be a private citizen? He got his own money, that's another thing I like for him. Don't nobody gotta grease his palm he don't have to do that uh-uh-uh Listen we looking at Donald Trump Republicans Democrats Independents We are looking

46:58 at Donald Trump and let me tell you why because people are tired of the media yeah we are tired of the other Democratic Party holding people hostage oh yes always trying to be politically correct. Listen, listen! Donald Trump don't want to be political correct no he wanna stay facts yeah he wanna tell the truth okay let him tell the truth cuz that's what gonna set us all free so I'm stopping Stomping for the trial. I suggest you all go ahead and stop for the child. Yeah, I'm forgetting about all those other channels And i'm looking at mr Donald trump to be our next president It was they got the stump for the trump. I was like this has gotta be something that's orchestrated I could not find it and it's very possible when maybe it's uh, yeah maybe organic well when you think about certainly

47:50 Well, this is an immigrant country. Which we're supposed to be. But if you really look at what people who come to America thinking that this is where you can do it, anybody can be successful, anybody could be a millionaire or billionaire and he could be president... This guy's embodying what America kind of stood for! And I think it's working Yeah, I'm not arguing this. But i don't understand John why whenever I say this and of course I'm prepared Whenever I say this people go he's a scam it's full of shit Based on what? Based on what? This seems legit He even says when I was a businessman now says I am a politician

48:29 You know, unless this is truly the biggest deal he's ever put together and he's gonna scam us in some horrific way. But I don't see it... He is going to profit from this anyway. Sure there's no losing for him whether he gets anywhere or not. I don't think you'll get he's gonna get anywhere because there's too many very negative forces that are lined up at strategizing as we speak against him in very advanced ways I mean, the big F is a good example. Definitely and this isn't it? I think if he can survive this and get out without being permanently tarnished but not get the nomination or maybe be nominated for vice president which i don't think you take but no He would be wise to take because that would be the springboard Or actually doesn't need to get that either But he still needs it as a spring board for 2020 cuz its

49:25 At that point, if my theory is correct which is we're going to get a bonehead in office in this 2016 cycle. And what kind of bone head would that be? That's Elizabeth Warren still you think? Yeah I'm still sticking with her but Hillary would be a good choice. I would just be very disappointed if Carly Fiorina got in and won because there's no way that you're gonna get around this economic situation collapse the economy in the next year or two. It's just obvious to everybody this is gonna happen and it's going to ruin the person even though they can, you know kind of come out of it but it's gonna ruin that person's future in terms of political...in terms of politics and then 2020 comes along that's where Trump or somebody comes in and takes over.

50:18 It's just, again you know this is the only time I've been studying for the last 10-15 years. The only things that were really...that stood out for me was that my Amazon Echo kept kicking in whenever someone said elections and um well then that was it. This thing is stupid! It's stupid! It's an insult to our intelligence but of course if you look at the ratings bingo spot on that is Donald Trump bringing in the ratings Yeah. He's a ratings bonanza There was no debate except when there were two guys yelling at each other and that wasn't even a debate it was like Christie and Ran going at each other

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No Agenda Show Logistics, Episode 746 Introduction

The hosts transition into the administrative portion of the show, discussing listener feedback and the artwork for episode 745 provided by Rob Little. They reiterate the show's "Value for Value" model, noting the absence of traditional corporate sponsors.

no agenda· adam curry· john c dvorak· podcasting· rob little

50:58 And that was just stupid. And again, Christie as far as I'm concerned is eliminated because he sounds like a warmonger if you ask me. And and i'll remind everyone that this is so rigged because there's only two debate sides You get the Democrats and Republicans and that's all you get. You don't get independents, no one's in prime time So the scam has started This is where it starts There is no honesty in American electoral process Sorry No, it's a total scam. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Adam Curry In the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there... In the morning everyone in the chat room knowagendastream.com voicing their opinions loudly we're failing John we're failing here so the chat room says you guys are failing

51:52 You guys are failing. Yes, in the morning to Rob Littles. How are we failing by the way? I don't know because we're not...I don't know. I remember one of my Twitter followers who's been on a lot She says, oh I hope you guys are going to spend a whole show talking about the debate. Yeah, I don't think so. This is already too long honestly. We've gone too long. We're stopping it now and there was really nothing to deconstruct other than what we just did. I think you're right then were good were done So Rob Little brought us the artwork. It's L-Y T-T-L-E Like presume it's little I think he's been... He could be Lytel Could be, um, he brought us the unicorn artwork for the episode 745 Unicorn which is one we debated uh it's a The artwork is the war on men and there's kind of a male female bathroom sign A male female next to each other you know little stick figures with the head And then the woman has a gun she just shot a bullet through the man's head

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Executive Producer Credits, Listener Donations

The show acknowledges high-tier donors, including "P-Anonymous" and Joni Audufre, for their financial support. Personal notes from listeners are read, covering topics from wedding anniversaries to new listener recruits and birthday wishes.

donations· executive producer· knighthood· p-anonymous· joni audufre

52:51 We debated that as being a little creepy, I remember. I thought it was creepy. Yeah but there you go. Creepy are us! That's right this program unlike every other program you have been watching and listening to pretty much we are not sponsored by any anybody any product we make this for our listeners and our listeners support us and we like to highlight our executive and associate executive producers at the beginning of every show Yes, we would. In fact we're going to start by highlighting P Anonymous so we have a P taken care of in the anonymous the A-Anonymous B-Anonymous C-Anonymous P-Anonymous we added J-Anonymous J-Anonymous? This is P-Anonymous he says no name or location

53:37 So, PNautimus sent us 567.89 but from now on I can be known as PNautimus not sure how much i've given exactly over 5k or so I think and I was knighted about four years ago and have asked that that a foreign name be used for me. I can't remember what, some Dutch one I think? For someone who doesn't have Tourette's but has similar afflictions, I've always appreciated how much Adam shares about all his stuff." And stuff it is! "...and John's personal stuff too for that matter makes me feel better hearing it. The production quality is effing outstanding!"

54:14 Cannot be said and we already gone past our F quotient with your earlier. That's right Thank you cannot be said enough love the JCD interviews just like everything from YouTube go podcasting You got a hold you've got to hold your hand above your head in the Illuminati triangle when you say Thanks penonymous, that's our soul an only executive producer for show seven by seven four six I And I was just seven four five, but that was so this is seven four six So we have to only two shows left for the 740 something okay? Well no the 747 is the next show yeah, so I mean when she'll have one show life. Yeah, James a jame Jane Dame Joan Daughter free in Morgantown West Virginia you old stomping Motown

55:05 She came in with 288.15, she'll be the associate executive producer for the show. Thanks Johnny! She did send a note in. Wanted to get it on the anniversary donation but also wanted my note read out on air and mentioned a couple of listeners that's why she came with 288 15... 288 15 was a... Yes congratulations on your wedding anniversary It was yesterday? How many years is that now? 27 If I was on it and they never had a fight ladies and gentlemen for some reason, I'd get applause This bits applause worthy. Yeah, that's applause where the anyone can stick to it. Well separate states helps apparently Yes It does once you get older believe me good day have everyone else spread out spread out buy more property by land Real estate is the solution to everybody's problem. But I'm gonna get if I ever get my air stream we're gonna quarter acre

55:53 Oh, yeah. You'll be driving around places where you can probably buy a half acre here and there. You could get them all over the country and they'd be cheap! Yeah? And in the last month I've had two people in The Mouth she writes who are actually listening to this show. She would like that little girl yay there. Okay... She wants it now?! That's what she says. Okay..and I wasn't prepared. There you go. Actually, yeah she don't have the note my friend Annette who I hadn't seen in 27 years came to visit me in July over my birthday and it hit her first She loves you guys so far and I can't wait for Sunday show to hear your coverage of Thursday's Republican debate Anthony is the other conquest

56:41 He was lamenting on Facebook during the debate how the Fox talking heads were controlling the conversation. And by the way, they...according to the numbers they controlled those three people controlled over 33% of them talking and then most talked in the lectern or on stage was Trump with 11 and Bush with 10. We're controlling the conversation, bringing up the same BS talking points at which time I decide he may be ripe for the picking. Finally success! May I please have a very late happy birthday from July 20th, any Obama no no no. They're all hysterical L Sharpton resist we much and maybe the get mo nation anthem at the end of this show for my two new recruits. Okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

57:43 Which is too long to play. No. Karma? Yeah, well she wants a sharp then resists we much and- Oh I'm sorry didn't hear that okay. Sharpen resist something else Well the no no no and uh that's it happy birthday put her on the happy birthday list We don't have her on there Okay and its Joni's happy it's her birthday? I think so yeah But resist! We Much! We must And we will much about That You've got karma. Alright back to the list. I've got her on do we have an age for her or date? She won't say yeah, she's 12 cases. I think I believe she's about I think she's 23 okay 23 good Maybe 22

58:51 Russell Hickey in Nashville, Tennessee. $200 and one cents guys I must say I was skeptical when it first started listing as I am with all things media related I have been pleasantly surprised and consider myself a big fan Please continue to stay true to the formula also go ahead and reserve my spot of sir hickey of Nashville And my playlist for today is Mexican Obama no no no karma for all regards Russell Hickey You've got karma.

59:41 And finally, Ewan Robertson in Sarasota Florida. $200 in the morning gentlemen please accept my humble donation from a long time douchebag my brother Mark aka Sir Haggis who is overly fond of inebriated donation has called me out for the last time rightfully so I love your show and look forward to many more surprise me with a jingle and cheers uh... pronounced you win but i say i think it's a u n things and brandon tennis pronounced brady and ten the you've got karma this limited reasons that's it for us to know uh... some stories

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Mile High Club, Show 747 Promotion

The hosts announce a "Mile High Club" theme for the upcoming episode 747, encouraging $52.80 donations to match the altitude of a mile. Artists are invited to submit logos for the club to be featured in the newsletter and on mobile lock screens.

mile high club· boeing 747· donations· artwork· newsletter

1:00:38 We could use some help for the next show, 747. The big jet show that's... You can join the fantastic Mile High Club and say you're in the Mile High Club and then we'll know what to do with it. I think John, I was listening to those two women who were stumping for Trump. I think I should be your call guy so roll that up again yeah We're gonna need some help for show 747 which will be about the Boeing 747 jet of course. Probably discuss it and we need some donations. Donations! Need the help? And so we were inviting people to join the Mile High Club. Mile high! I'm gonna actually put a webpage up with everybody that's on the list, so they can say... point to it. Isn't there a badge or some kind of logo? Or something that people could then pull out? Oh look at the one in the newsletter was good. Because you know what, on your lock screen on your phone That would be cool to have your Mile High Club decal right there

1:01:35 If one of the artists out there, and there's a bunch of them, want to design a specific Mile High Club logo for todays show... We will entertain using that. Yes we will entertain using it! And yeah I think it would be great on the Lux screen Please do consider us for your support on Thursday's show. We will have another one for you. So since Trump is being, you know, heralded as the misogynist of our era and we have this war on men which again it's the entire talking point of the Democrats. The Republicans hate women just hate them but we would rather masturbate as Republicans than actually have sex with women that's how much we hate him it's obvious and as a part of this we've been following this thermostat thing

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Office Temperature Study, Placebo Thermostats

A widely reported study claiming office temperatures are biased against women is debunked as being based on a sample size of only 16 participants. An anecdote from an HVAC professional describes the use of "placebo thermostats"—unconnected devices installed to give employees a sense of control over their environment.

hvac· thermostats· nature journal· gender gap· placebo

1:02:50 And I made a call out on Thursday show, I said look, I need to see this report that these two Dutch researchers came out with which begat this entire conversation. Because it costs $125 if you want to get it from, I guess its nature or something. Yeah that's a fantastic survey of 16 people! Well thanks for taking the punchline. Oh sorry! So yeah so I read through the whole document and then at the bottom is says measure data The data for the analysis were obtained in the context of a larger study performed in our laboratory on thermal preference in young adult females. During the study, 16 young female participants were lightly clothed

1:03:35 sitting behind a desk and were randomly exposed to room temperature protocols in the climate chamber. For the purpose of this study, only steady state baseline data from these protocols are used." They had no control group and they had 16 women? This entire survey is based on 16 women?! Here's the problem I have... They wanted how much money for this report? $125 Are you kidding me!? And i don't believe it was peer-reviewed yet! I'm sure it's PU review. Yeah, so I got a lot of cool emails from people who are home guess what in the business of installing and maintaining air conditioning HH was an HAVC no hvh AC yes you're gonna let me read the Trotsky one? No i'm going to read the Trotsky one ah now you don't get the Trotsky one

1:04:29 Alright, you know what? You know what? No it's okay. It's okay I will give you the Trotsky one. I will read from producer Nick who is LEED certified He says, you know this is really...really so stupid. I'm just paraphrasing what he's saying but cooling systems in most buildings are crappy because they're cheap but really what they are intended to do is dehumidify these buildings by overcooling the air for long periods of time This is why it has to be at a reasonably low temperature otherwise you get mold and all kinds of crap and that's what these guys do when they install them

1:05:08 But also, in modern buildings thermostats are changed based upon the stance of the sun around the building because it heats up in different portions. And this guy's saying look we've been doing this for a long time yes I agree with a lot of people who say that body temperatures change or differ between people certainly between men and women but also between men and men but then the best email came in from Sir David Trotsky. Oh well thank you David Trotz, Sir David Trotzky writes. Guys I have been doing heating and air conditioning in Chicago all my life alongside my father there is no standard setting for the air conditioning or heat if someone ever complains they just adjust it which by the way in my experience I think that's true also all offices have multiple zones for different temperatures and different

1:06:06 Sorry, mainly for the sun moving around the building. We just discussed that I thought we'd like you'd like this part if a woman ever complained about being too cold My father would ask if they had coffee and if she could go get it while she was gone My father would mount a thermostat on the wall that did nothing It was connected to nothing when she returned my father would explain that she can control her own temperature now They were always grateful and never had a call back. My father would throw the coffee away because he never drank coffee, we called this the placebo thermostat." And it worked perfectly! Yeah. And I got a lot of emails from men saying that women were keeping it purposely cold...I mean the whole thing is just...

1:06:54 I don't even understand, except for the money aspect which you're right about that. But 60... and I think they were Dutch women in Dutch office buildings! It doesn't even adhere to American building codes 16 people in the whole study and this Viral outrage ensues. Follow us! Beyond viral outrage, it was on every single news show nightly news we're talking about national network news 16 person study they did it and it was all aimed at the just oh men control the temperature these horrible men are trying to freeze us I have to wear a sweater in the office because of these horrible man's they needed too hot yeah

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

CISA Cybersecurity Bill, Mandatory Terrorist Reporting

The Senate's Intelligence Authorization Act for 2016 included Section 603, which would require social media companies to report "actual knowledge" of terrorist activity to authorities. Critics view this as a significant burden on Silicon Valley firms like Twitter and Facebook.

cisa· silicon valley· intelligence authorization act· section 603· surveillance

1:07:39 Or, no they need it too cold. The men need it too cold. They need to do it which again in my experience is just the opposite Yeah I agree My experience is women like a little hotter than the men do Well and I'm sorry No you say the other way around I am all confused forget everything I said You should read this study My wife likes it freezing let's put it that way Yes I hear that about her So as the United States Congress, including the Senate were taken off. They're gone now right? They're on break? Yeah they should be. They tried to sneak one through... Now the cyber security bill stalled in the senate that's the CISA, these sharing agreements so that'll have to wait and that wasn't so surprising but they tried to sneak one by which did get stopped in the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal year 2016

1:08:32 And there were two general provisions in this, and of course I read it for you... ...in this particular bill. And the one is section 603 here we had another section that was 215 on the previous... Was it done? The Patriot Act Section 215 This is section 603 requirement to report terrorist activity and the unlawful distribution of information relating to explosives Duty to report, whoever while engaged in providing an electronic communication service or a remote computing service to the public through a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce obtains actual knowledge of any terrorist activity including the facts or circumstances described in Section C shall as soon as reason be possible provide to the appropriate authorities the facts or circumstances of the alleged terrorist activities.

1:09:27 This is a big F you to Silicon Valley. Everybody knows that there's crap on Twitter, everybody knows that someone posts some crap onto Facebook of course they know what's going on they do nothing but troll your behavior all day long and now they're being told if you find out about something you are obliged to tell us I don't know if it's an FU to the whole valley It's definitely an F U to these social networks Well, what else is there of any import in the Silicon Valley? There's chip companies. There are semiconductors Okay alright You get the idea So this did not pass or it stalled because they have to come back with amendments But I thought that was tricky Everyone is looking at debates everyone is looking at Cecil the Lion Everyone is looking... whatever they're looking at Oh don't look over here we just got a little thing over here Don't look over here! Nothing to see here Ooh look at that

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Wildfire Reporting Bias, Amy Goodman vs Judy Woodruff

A comparison of wildfire reporting between PBS NewsHour and Democracy Now! highlights how different outlets frame natural disasters. While Judy Woodruff provided standard statistics, Amy Goodman linked the California fires to a "drought-fueled" climate change agenda.

wildfires· california· amy goodman· democracy now· climate change

1:10:26 So I'll keep my eye on this one for sure to see what happens with that. I have to report you. I got a couple of interesting little clips here, okay? I want to play contrasting clips now This is where the news report is presented in two different ways. It's kind of different slants Okay The first one is the wire Let me set it up first but I'm gonna tell you what the clip is wildfire report and then And this is Judy Woodruff, the establishment liberal apparently. She gives a very accurate report on what's going on in California because people are very concerned and she just has very straight news read as part of the news rundown

1:11:07 In California, hundreds of evacuees from a wildfire north of San Francisco were allowed to return home today. Firefighters now have the Rocky fire nearly half contained since last weekend the fire has destroyed 43 homes as it charred nearly 109 square miles about 12,000 residents are still under evacuation orders or warnings Okay, pretty good. Stretched forward? Yep seems good Now Amy Goodman has one but she just can't resist her agenda and she has to slip something in In California meanwhile the largest of many drought-fueled wildfires Has grown to 106 square miles crossing highways and defying attempts To bring it under control This year is on pace to become the warmest on record Going down!

1:11:59 She's predicting the future now. This is great, yeah! I would just predict the future. Perfect. Very good. You just think that they would just... if they played it straight and didn't have all these like you know liberal agenda items in their news they maybe would be successful. Hmm. And i mean it's not like they're unsuccessful but i just don't think they're doing well Well, they have to hurry because we have the big climate agreement meeting in Paris coming up in November or December I think. They've got to move on... If it's in December! Yeah they gotta move. It's gonna be freezing they're gonna be in Paris. Gotta move, gotta move. They should move it to some time of year when is boiling hot The president uh in the meantime went where was he? I think at American University someplace where I'm sure

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Obama Iran Deal Speech, Nobel Peace Prize Irony

President Obama's speech at American University defending the Iran nuclear deal is analyzed for its hawkish rhetoric. Despite his Nobel Peace Prize, Obama noted he has ordered military action in seven countries, leading to characterizations of the President as a "warmonger" who views war as the only alternative to the deal.

barack obama· iran deal· nuclear treaty· nobel peace prize· warmonger

1:12:52 He would be received well enough to sell his Iran deal to the American public. Did you see any of this by any chance? I have a clip actually. Okay, play yours. I got a couple. Alright mine's not much but this again comes from Democracy Now! In his speech Wednesday, Obama said Iranian hardliners who reject the nuclear deal and chant death to America are, quote, making common cause with the Republican caucus. Ultimately, Obama said the decision to support or reject the nuclear deal comes down to a choice between diplomacy with Iran and war. The rejection of this deal leaves any U.S. administration that is absolutely committed to preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon with one option—

1:13:58 Another war in the Middle East. Yeah, so that was also my takeaway but he spread it out over a couple different pieces and I have gotten these clips He actually put a timeline to when this was going to take place if this should stall In the Senate. A timeline for the war? Yes! Not once but twice Once with twice as you give us the timeline for the war now The way I'm seeing it, John. Based upon your thesis which i am in agreement with that the plan is to rubbleize the entire Middle East It now appears that the president actually does not want the senate To ratify this treaty

1:14:40 Because that's when we get exactly what all the neoconservatives and the nutjobs in the Atlanticists, and everyone who is hanging out with John Kerry. It's exactly what they want! It is true that some of the limitations regarding Iran's peaceful program last only 15 years but that's how arms control agreements work The first SALT treaty with the Soviet Union lasted 5 years The first START treaty lasted 15 years And then our current situation If 15 or 20 years from now Iran tries to build a bomb, this deal ensures that the United States will have better tools to detect it. A stronger basis under international law to respond and the same options available to stop a weapons program as we have today including if necessary military options on the other hand without this deal The scenarios that critics warn about happening in fifteen years

1:15:36 Could happen six months from now. By killing this deal, Congress would not merely pave Iran's pathway to a bomb it would accelerate it." Yes! Yes good This is exactly what we want Here he's gonna expand the messaging there Oh yeah! By the time I took office Iran had installed several thousand centrifuges and showed no inclination to slow much less halt its program Among US policy makers, there's never been disagreement on the danger posed by an Iranian nuclear bomb. Democrats and Republicans alike have recognized that it would spark an arms race in the world's most unstable region... Yay! ...and turn every crisis into a potential nuclear showdown. Wooo! It would embolden terrorist groups like Hezbollah... Mm-hmm. ...and pose an unacceptable risk to Israel... Mm-hmm. ..which Iranian leaders have repeatedly threatened to destroy

1:16:36 More broadly, it could unravel the global commitment to non-proliferation that the world has done so much to defend. He's laying it out! This is perfect! This is exactly what we want! The question then is not whether to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon but how? Even before taking office I made clear that Iran would not be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon on my watch and its been by policy throughout my presidency to keep all options, including possible military options on the table to achieve that objective. So then he comes back and just piles his own heap of crap there and says instead of six months... And as someone who does firmly believe Iran must not get a nuclear weapon and who has wrestled with this issue since the beginning of my presidency I can tell you that alternatives to military action will have been exhausted

1:17:33 once we reject a hard-won diplomatic solution that the world almost unanimously supports. Now, do you hear what he's saying here John? He's saying it as if it's a fact he says once we deny this once we stop this heres what is going to happen. He's not saying IF! He's saying WHEN! Listen again Exhausted Let me go back a little bit Who has wrestled with this issue since the beginning of my presidency I can tell you that alternatives to military action will have been exhausted Once we reject a hard-won diplomatic solution. That's different than saying if we reject, you know I'm saying? I agree with it now should play it one more time It's he's saying when not saying when not yet firmly believe that Iran must not get a nuclear weapon and who has wrestled with this issue since the beginning of my presidency I can tell you that alternatives to military action will have been exhausted

1:18:27 once we reject a hard-won diplomatic solution that the world almost unanimously supports. So let's not mince words, the choice we face is ultimately between diplomacy or some form of war maybe not tomorrow maybe not three months from now But soon. We don't have to wait six months, John it's soon! It's soon could be anytime. Somewhere between three months and six months and I take this guy's word out of it because at the end of the speech The Nobel Prize winning professor He is a professor isn't he? Well he was a... I think... A constitutional lawyer! He was a lecturer. A constitutional lawyer but he won the Nobel Peace prize in when did he win which before he became president

1:19:19 As he was elected, I think he got it right away. Before he was inaugurated? Yeah before he's inaugurated that's it He is very proud of his record on peace. As commander-in-chief, I have not shied away from using force when necessary. I've ordered tens of thousands of young Americans into combat. I sat by their bedside sometimes when they come home I've ordered military action in seven countries. Right on! Seven? Yeah, there you go. There's your Nobel Peace Prize. Seven bitches?! Seven count them, seven! Not to mention the dronings... Well that's what he's talking about He's talking about dronings. Seven The seven are Afghanistan Pakistan Yemen Somalia Libya and Iraq And now of course Syria There are times when force is necessary

1:20:16 And if Ferran does not abide by this deal, it's possible that we don't have an alternative. He's a warmonger! Duh! Oh happy about his seven countries he's bombed. Yeah... He is a warmonger, we've known that. Once you got the peace price became a warmonger It's just unconscionable. Well maybe were the only ones to hear this It seems as though we're at least in the minority, and I don't think anybody else has picked up on this. Let's let them get nukes, that way the Saudis are gonna have to get them and then they're going to buy a lot of our stuff. We're gonna sell tons and tons of armaments all throughout the Middle East." And then they're gonna blow each other up and they're gonna make a mess and we are gonna go in there and rebuild it after the radiation subsides. Which could be a number of decades. Yeah but still... Exactly who cares?

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

European Migrant Crisis, Australian Border Policy

The escalating migrant crisis in Europe is discussed, focusing on the 750% increase in arrivals in Greece and the dangerous crossings from Libya. The segment contrasts European struggles with Australia's "harsh" border controls under Prime Minister Tony Abbott, which involve turning boats back at sea.

greece· calais· mediterranean· tony abbott· asylum seekers

1:21:16 They clean up probably...they can use immigrant labor to sweep up the mess. Yeah, no this is not good. It fits in with the whole cycle of things and yeah I think they're...I didn't at first I thought, and I still think it's something they can approve. But with people like douchebags like Lindsey Graham...Lindsey Graham in that one little speech if you paid attention to it when he was talking about all he talks about is Iran. He says the moderates are all dead. You know, Iran is most...is 50% of the population are young people who

1:21:57 who love the United States, they love their iPhones. They love everything. They got to get all that stuff. I love Spotify if I was Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, big Taylor Swift fans, all that sort of thing were paying no attention to this and we're just going to let them blow each other up because who gives a crap? Right even though there's probably more money to be made in selling iPhones than all these are immense but you know it's a different industry Meanwhile, I'm keeping my eye on Greece and whatever else is happening in Euroland. There's a lot of things that are just not getting placed certainly here in the United States because of the reality show known as The Presidential Election and we have a continued immigrant crisis In Greece, in fact, refugee arrival numbers have increased by 750%

1:22:51 over last year. We've got what's going on in the other side of the channel, on the French side in Calais... There are thousands of people in makeshift camp all trying to jump into trucks and underneath trucks and one guy walked the whole channel tunnel 30 miles. He almost made it through! And there are trains whizzing by Nigel Farage said something about this in the EU Starfleet command meeting. It's 50. So there has to be some means where you can find out who is genuine or not, and just saying to anybody that arrives in a boat in Greece or in Italy, you can stay if they policy of disaster. Yeah very disappointing to hear him bring ISIS into that

1:23:52 Why? Because he's saying that the Islamists... I did not hear, didn't get the memo about ISIS saying we're going to send all our fighters over there. These are people who desperately trying to get out of this shithole of a continent where the Chinese ourselves even Russians everyone is in there trying to grab African goods and these people they need to be helped Well, I don't know what they're going to be able to do that. I think they're too stretched to help anybody, especially the Italians but let's listen to this report which is the immigration report which discusses a little meme I've noticed floating around, especially amongst the hardliners. It's like, oh Australia knows what they're doing! Australia is dealing with this properly. In news from Europe an overcrowded fishing boat carrying as many as 700 migrants capsized in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Libya Wednesday at least 25

1:24:47 Five people died and as many as 100 more are feared to have drowned, according to Italian officials. Human rights groups say at least 2,000 migrants have died this year trying to cross the Mediterranean to reach Europe. Meanwhile, Australian officials have announced they've turned away more than 600 asylum seekers at sea under harsh border controls enacted under Prime Minister Tony Abbott. In addition to turning away boats, Australia has also sent migrants who do reach Australian shores to long-term detention camps on the islands of Papua New Guinea and Nauru. Right. Let's just send them to Devil's Island! Screw them! We've no compassion. I'll bet you those over those camps or something Yeah, I'll bet meanwhile a new bill is that's this past yet

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Passport Revocation Bill, Edward Snowden Exit Controls

House Bill HR 237 proposes giving the Secretary of State discretion to revoke the passports of American citizens suspected of terrorist affiliations. The discussion touches on the legality of such moves and the lack of formal exit controls for travelers leaving the United States.

hr 237· passport· edward snowden· state department· exit visas

1:25:34 Yeah, I think it's passed the House of Representatives. HR 237 which allows the Secretary of State at his own discretion to make a determination that an American citizen has terrorist affiliations and therefore to deny or revoke said citizens passport which is so interesting seeing as we were told although we objected to it we were told that Edward Snowden's password passport had been revoked But it wasn't. No, you explained it very clearly. You're the one that...you're the go-to guy on this. Yeah but we looked at everything and there's no way to revoke it now there's this bill which will actually allow it to be revoked so maybe Snowden is ready to make a move. That's an interesting take could be well this all about Snowden! Regardless it will be

1:26:27 You'll have exit interviews on the way out of the country, which is kind of normal I think. Most like in Europe if you leave Europe they look at your passport and they say okay we gotcha...we know your left We don't have that here And I've never really understood why. You're thinking about that, you're right we go into the international terminal we have passport control they make sure you have a passport so you can leave the country and they just look at it know that you don't get questioned you do good question when you come in When your leaving United States immigration doesn't look as your passport

1:27:09 You just get on the plane and go. I think you're right, it's only at the...sometimes the airline looks at it often. Just to see if you have a valid passport to travel but there is no check? Maybe there is! No, there's not computer check. Except for the no-fly list which you get looked at when you buy the ticket But of course this is a tyrannical move so that you can't leave the country Yeah, you can't leave the country. Well that's what Ron Paul suggested years ago about building that big fence was to keep people in. The only way to leave the country if you're a felon which I've always thought peculiar. What do you mean? You want them to leave the country yeah get these felons out of here it's never made sense to me. Send them to Mexico

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Selective Eating Disorder, Pediatric Mental Health

A Duke University study suggests that "picky eating" in preschoolers may be a symptom of deeper psychiatric issues like depression or ADHD. Critics argue this is a path toward over-medicating children for normal behavioral variations.

dsm-5· picky eaters· adhd· depression· duke university

1:28:02 It just never made sense. We highlighted the selective eating disorder as an actual disorder, which is approved by the DSM-5... By the way I would like somebody to look through the DSM-5 and find a disorder where kids in particular but i think adults too don't like to have their food touch each other I don't know if it's in there. Selective eating, of course is known to us and we've...and I brought this up on the show when we talked about texture issues and not just women but men also seem to have some of this although predominantly it seems to be a female issue. And now comes the news children who are picky eaters may have bigger problems than lack of well-balanced diet

1:28:46 As this new study, researchers from Duke University assessed the eating habits of 1,000 preschoolers aged 2 to 5. They visit the children in their homes and ask their parents or other caregivers a battery of questions about the youngsters' behavior and they also checked in with a subgroup of nearly 200 kids that they've been doing annually. And uh...the conclusion is children who had To be counted as picky eaters, children had to do more than just shun broccoli and other foods that kids typically don't like. If they limited their eating to a range of preferred foods they were considered to have a moderate case of selective eating."

1:29:29 And in that range of foods, if it was so narrow that it was hard for them to eat with other people which could come close to your food touching each other their selective eating was labeled severe. And this now according to the study says this behavior could indicate the young child has psychiatric problems that need to be addressed Drug them! They're saying it's likely symptoms of depression, anxiety, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder known as ADHD and yes the solution for that is drugging them. Good work Always good work Talking about drugs I thought this report was kind of interesting

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

World Anti-Doping Agency, Lance Armstrong Vendetta

The World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is investigating allegations of widespread doping in international athletics following a data leak. The conversation references the downfall of Lance Armstrong, suggesting his case was driven by a personal vendetta.

wada· doping· athletics· lance armstrong· blood tests

1:30:20 makes sense. Consider all these records that keep getting broken and all the rest this is the doping athletes little I think we knew this all along they guess they don't catch many of them." The World Anti-Doping Agency says an independent commission will investigate allegations of widespread use of illegal substances in international athletics German broadcaster ARD has reported that more than 80 800 athletes had suspicious blood test results between 2001 and 2012. The reports are based on data leaked from the International Association of Athletics Federation. I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked? Shocked...I had no idea it was

1:31:01 It was leaked a day, I mean what it indicates to me is that they're covering up. You know they selectively enforce these laws these doping laws so they get the right people to win these competitions or to get annoying people like Lance Armstrong out well that could yeah well that was a vendetta The guy who went after Armstrong That was a vendetta now of course Armstrong fucked up but it's still he that guy was going after him big time Well, he probably had a meeting with him and Armstrong probably is a dick. This is how we talk in Austin. We don't say he's a dick. What do you say? Well, we still kind of like him in Austin. We say, well Lance... Hey man how are ya doing? He's not from Austin is he? Yeah! He's in Austin yeah his whole operation's in Austin Oh I didn't know that. That's what-we're big biking town. I think I knew that but I don't- Yeah, were a big biking town for that very reason

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Pentagon Email Hack, Russian Attribution Claims

Unnamed sources within the Pentagon attributed a sophisticated cyberattack on the Joint Chiefs of Staff's unclassified email system to Russia. However, White House spokesperson Josh Earnest declined to officially name a culprit, leading to accusations of media manipulation.

pentagon· joint chiefs of staff· hacking· russia· josh earnest

1:31:56 I guess we had unnamed sources within the Pentagon who were claiming that the Russians, our good friend Putin had been responsible for hacking the Joint Chiefs of Staff unsecured email system. And it's not specified exactly what happened but this system has been shut down for two weeks now. The hack occurred allegedly on On July 25th. Everybody could have hacked it Yeah, but here are... I just picked up two CNN Pentagon officials now believe Russia is the prime suspect behind a cyber attack on an email system used by the Joint Chiefs Here's NBC U.S. officials telling NBC News that Russia launched a sophisticated cyber attack against the Pentagon's joint staff unclassified email system

1:32:45 Alright, then let's go straight to the horse's mouth and ask Josh Earnest, spokeshole for sources attributing this attack to one specific country and I'm just not in a position to do that. But, I can't promise you that we'll be in a position at any point in the future to make a grand pronouncement about who may have been responsible for this particular intrusion. So whose... The point of that is it was government officials! Unnamed? Unnamed sources. Ernest's gonna say

1:33:23 This is bull crap. This is like, no I never said that! In fact they made it very clear that we weren't going to name the country because we weren't sure. Yeah this is plausible deniability. Yes CNN and NBC are both saying hey we got it from sources inside the Pentagon so it must be true. They won't say anything because they don't want to rush and say you guys are telling... No? That was the news media. That wasn't us. We never said anything. I know what they're talking about. We're not blaming you Yeah. Exactly. Scam! Is that it? That's, yeah...that's that. Okay I got some-I got a couple Ask Adam kind of things Do we need the jingle? I think so Okay You want to play the jingle first or you tell me which clip is this? There's two clips Alright time for Ask Adam! Okay the first one is what's new on the PBS News Hour and let me preface

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Modernization, Sound Effect Segues

The PBS NewsHour has reportedly updated its production style with new sets and jazzy sound effects in an attempt to modernize. The changes are attributed to influence from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, though the new audio segues are described as "lame."

pbs newshour· bill gates· melinda gates· broadcast style· segues

1:34:24 Now, they've changed their style. They're trying to modernize so they're more hip and modern. This is driven by the Bill & Melinda Gates who have never come back with any money even though they jumped through hoops for these two people to change the show when it was fine, by the way, the way it was presented in news in a very objective way doesn't need to be jazzy but they've changed it. So what's jazzier about it? Well, the sets are completely redone and they got huge. You gotta watch this thing! They got big jibs coming in from the top, flying everywhere... And now they're also adding certain sound effects. Cool Not doing extreme in fact it seems kind of lame see if you can tell me what's a little different in this particular segue The S&P was down more than 1%

1:35:16 Still to come on the NewsHour, memorable moments from last night's Republican debate. It was so you had to play it again. It's so lame don't we have a couple of these ourselves We expand we're having this lame yeah, that is true. I mean we have well. That's a Play that again the SMP was down more than 1% Still to come on the news our memorable moments from last night's Republican debate oh Man now also on PBS over now

1:35:53 Charlie Rose, I should just discuss him a minute. He's been working his butt off...I've never been a big fan of Charlie Rose's but he is one of the hardest working men in show business And so he's been doing this Charlie Rose interview show on PBS for decades. He produces it himself, so you may make something out of these gouges a bunch of these foundations and all the rest that you get. You see people in there that donate to the show. you know, the John and Anne Doar Foundation. And then John Door's on the show! Hey! How does that work? Yeah. So you see a lot of this sort of thing and it sort is just an element of corruption so Charlie can keep his finances intact. Then he got The Morning Show on CBS... Hold on a second, John transition

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Charlie Rose Native Advertising, Fish Concert Promotion

Charlie Rose is accused of using his PBS show for "native advertising" by promoting specific movies and Phish concert dates during his weekend wrap-up. The promotion of a Phish show in Elkhorn, Wisconsin, is cited as an example of potential corruption in public broadcasting.

charlie rose· pbs· cbs· native advertising· phish

1:35:16 Still to come on the NewsHour, memorable moments from last night's Republican debate. It was so you had to play it again. It's so lame don't we have a couple of these ourselves We expand we're having this lame yeah, that is true. I mean we have well. That's a Play that again the SMP was down more than 1% Still to come on the news our memorable moments from last night's Republican debate oh Man now also on PBS over now

1:35:53 Charlie Rose, I should just discuss him a minute. He's been working his butt off...I've never been a big fan of Charlie Rose's but he is one of the hardest working men in show business And so he's been doing this Charlie Rose interview show on PBS for decades. He produces it himself, so you may make something out of these gouges a bunch of these foundations and all the rest that you get. You see people in there that donate to the show. you know, the John and Anne Doar Foundation. And then John Door's on the show! Hey! How does that work? Yeah. So you see a lot of this sort of thing and it sort is just an element of corruption so Charlie can keep his finances intact. Then he got The Morning Show on CBS... Hold on a second, John transition

1:36:43 Okay, yes. He got the morning show on CBS and that I think it was gonna be just to beef it up because he was dying and he came in as a wise old expert and actually is really good on that show as one of these guys but again he still does his other show now we have to do the morning show at four in the morning even get to the studio on time so he's killing himself but he's now making millions So guy who's on a roll decides to take on a third show And this is it? He's not working hard enough. So he has his weekend show called This Week. And I think there's other money being made here because at the end of this show, and he starts off like...and here is a bunch of news. It's kind of a news summary show and it's not really that good but at the end he says, and here are the important events. At the end of the show, he said, the important events this week that you should be aware of." And then he does two three maybe four important events

1:37:42 national, important and national events that you should all be aware of. And I listen to these events and go wait a minute! I'm going to start using effects to transition. For your weekend Merrill Street Rick Springfield and Kevin Kline star in the new Jonathan Demme movie Ricky & The Flash. I was never a traditional mom but i am musician and like give all have Fish has tour dates in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio and Elkhorn, Wisconsin. Wait a minute He's promoting a fish concert schedule? In Elkhorn I mean there was a guy at the Chicago Earth Wind & Fire concert I went to who was handing out flyers but have Charlie Rose try and get me to go to fish this is new And i'm left in the doubt The wonder is close I think im still beat But how would you know

1:38:47 And the reality series Funny or Die presents America's Next Weatherman. It premieres Saturday on TBS Are you wearing pants? I cannot find pants High-grade asbestos, not to worry But only one will be named America's next weather man That's Charlie Rose The Week for this week On behalf of all of us here Thank you for watching I'm Charlie Rose We'll see ya next time Well let's do a little transition out there Okay, so let's get this straight. A movie starring Meryl Streep. What was the only? Wait, what was the movie? It was at Rosie and The Flash or whatever it's called. Rosie and The Flash... Something like that but she plays a singer just to show that she can sing so then a fish concert in Elkhorn Indiana everyone should be aware of this in case you want to fly-in

1:39:49 the Cuyahoga or Elkhorn because you know there is no other band in the entire country that's opening this week. There's no, you know, Shania Twain. Shania! Faith Hill she's not going to doing anything and none of the nobody but Fish and then this crazy comedy show that's beginning on TV do you think that there's some like, Entertainment Tonight payments going on for this sort of native advertising? I'm actually thinking what is related to Sony. Charlie Rose is CBS so that's Sony...I think Electra Records is what Fish is on. Yeah but this was done in PBS This is the PBS show! This is public broadcasting Oh this is to get their ratings up for the advertising It's Sweeps Week or something

1:40:41 Something something what they're not gonna get their ratings up by promoting a fish concert in Elkhorn, Indiana Bill and Melinda Gates are behind these things. You know maybe they may be the big fish heads I'm just thinking this is the most corrupt thing I've ever heard on PBS. I mean it is totally corrupt That's not what's going on this week well then let me pile jump Since you started, since you were tracking this I'll do my own little version of the segment. And now, back to Real News. As discussed predicted and agreed to on this very program... Well the lawsuit claims that morning which was January 31st 2015 Nick Gordon came home from this all-night cocaine and drinking binge and then watched this camera footage of Bobby Cristino where apparently he heard a conversation that she had with a friend saying Nick Gordon wasn't the man she thought he was and thats when the lawsuit says they got into this loud argument

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Bobbi Kristina Brown Lawsuit, Nick Gordon Allegations

A lawsuit filed against Nick Gordon alleges he gave Bobbi Kristina Brown a "toxic cocktail" before placing her face-down in a bathtub. The case involves claims of domestic disputes and financial motives following the death of Whitney Houston's daughter.

bobbi kristina brown· nick gordon· whitney houston· lawsuit· toxic cocktail

1:41:42 The lawsuit claims that Nick Gordon screamed at Bobbi Kristina, accusing her of cheating. Going so far as to call her a whore he also called her a bitch the argument lasted for 30 minutes and then everything got quiet now Now the lawsuit claims that Gordon gave Bobbi Kristina this toxic cocktail rendering her unconscious and then put her face down in a tub of cold water, causing her to suffer brain damage. The lawsuit goes on to say Anderson that the defendant then came out of the master bedroom wearing a different set of clothing than he was wearing prior to his argument with Bobbi Kristina got in bed and laid his head on some female guest's ankle another woman who was in the house and stated now I want a pretty little white girl like you That is a direct quote Anderson from the law. Nice!

1:42:32 Gee, what the hell was that? That's my sound effect. No I'm not talking about the sound effect of this story! Oh, but... I don't know anything about this. Yes you did because you brought this up two shows ago and said yes, yes you did What'd i say? You said what's going on and she was killed for her money This guy he was adopted by Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown Oh we're talking about oh right the girl Yeah Yeah, I already lost that. There's water under the bridge. It was a corruptness for the money. All right let's transition on then. Uh...I'm liking this! You can come over and sit down. I like that one you should combine it you should actually produce something. Oh work? Okay yes work instead of standalones. Should be a boom-dum-ba-dum-bum. Well we can i can always do

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Planned Parenthood History, Margaret Sanger Eugenics

Ken Blackwell of the Family Research Council discussed the eugenics-based roots of Planned Parenthood and founder Margaret Sanger. The segment also explores the role of religion in maintaining a moral framework for democracy, suggesting that without it, society relies solely on government and television for ethics.

planned parenthood· margaret sanger· eugenics· family research council· religion

1:43:27 I don't like that guitar hit. Every time i hear it, I think 1968 or whatever. 1968 is calling they want their Beatles back yes this is Ken Blackwell and Ken Blackwell is from again another group most of the groups I checked out for today's show, kind of checked out to be okay. It is from the Family Research Council where they got about $13 million according to their 990 filing. They don't...you know the guy seems to be you know on the up and up but again we see

1:44:06 another person on television, I think this was from C-SPAN one of those question and answer shows talking about Planned Parenthood and its history. Ken would you agree with pro-life activists black pro-life activists that minorities are being targeted for abortions by Planned Parenthood and other providers? You know i think in general low income citizens and women in particular are being targeted And minorities, because many minorities have a disproportionate number of their population and the low-income status are low hanging fruit for these abortionists. And so I think when you couple that with the fact that the founder of Planned Parenthood was Margaret Sanger—and Margaret Sanger was not only twisted eugenist—she was racist

1:44:59 And she thought blacks were inferior, and that if you in fact could get rid of that inferior strain of human species everybody would be better off. That's startling! You think that culture is still prevalent? It's startling! Could that culture be prevalent?! Do you think kind of like Apple has a culture that is still ongoing within the organization? Unfortunately, the folks who have tried to run faith out of the public and God out of the public square, the folks who have chased prayer out of our public schools. The folks who have turned marriage on its head

1:45:37 as a sacred institution. They in fact have reduced this down to an economic proposition or political proposition and what they don't know is that it is also a spiritual battle that we're engaged in, and that's why we are winning because we never gave up after the 73 decision. We've stayed in there on all fronts." There you go! Yet again someone semi kind of mainstream talking about the true roots of Planned Parenthood. Where does he get that they're winning? Boy, this guy it's what he does is he's in a non-profit about you know religious nonprofit I get it

1:46:19 I don't think we're winning. Or there's anyone... With me? Yeah, thank you! Got a mouse in your pocket? Yeah, I do. Family Research Council. I kind of find this article it was a professor and one to say he was at Harvard or Stanford and he had a visiting professor from Japan and who was visiting him for six months to study our democracy, or democracy. And the guy as he was leaving back for Japan said you know the one thing I really learned is that religion is incredibly important in a democratic society And his reasoning for this was that that is where, if you take out all the Jesus or the Muhammad or the Torah...take all of that stuff out there. What is taught—if you just get beyond the, alright he died for your sins so just believe it! It's okay to believe that he died for your sins? Okay we take that as a given—it teaches people in Sunday school but also in sermons,

1:47:20 right from wrong, and how we have in society certain rules that should be adhered to. But I think really it comes down to right and wrong. And the less we have that his assertion is eventually you just will not have a functioning democracy because the only place people are learning about morals is from television." Well, or the government... Right. ...is the source of what the television delivers. Right. But I thought it was interesting too—that assertion that without religion then you won't have enough, I think it was without religion you won't have enough police to monitor everything that'll happen. Okay not gonna argue the point. It's a throwaway i know. All right we do have a few people to thank for show 746 including David Garagiola

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San Francisco Biking, Traffic Ticket Disputes

A listener from San Francisco describes a protest regarding "The Wiggle" cycling path, where police have been ticketing cyclists for failing to stop. The discussion shifts to the general difficulty of driving in San Francisco and the aggressive nature of the city's traffic.

san francisco· cycling· traffic tickets· wiggle· road safety

1:48:27 I don't know how to pronounce his name. Garaglia? Yeah, I'd say Guaraglia. San Francisco 100 bucks. He sent a very long note in there of course not necessary to read and one was about the temperatures but he did have a little comment on biking in San Francisco which I want to relate. Okay. I was at a demonstration petitioning for stop signs to be considered yield signs for cyclists, The hubbub started because the San Francisco Police Department was ticketing cyclists in the Wiggle, a well-known cycling path between Mission and Soma and the Haight. Instead of doing something more productive... Oh instead of... Well this is way too long sorry Sorry that was my read And he said it was tickling tickling ticketing people instead of doing something more productive I bike to work regular and the biggest issue with the San Francisco traffic is not cyclists No Although some are assholes

1:49:26 But the incredibly shitty drivers, something like 50% won't signal before crossing lanes or turning. They'll just cross two lanes 20 yards before the corner without checking for cyclists and are too busy using their phones to pay attention." Okay uh if you're driving in San Francisco people who've been to San Francisco for the first time always have a little trouble dealing with driving in San Francisco because you have to bring your game up beyond This is from experience. I've been driving in San Francisco forever You have to bring your game up better beyond and better than taxi cab guys So you have to be almost as aggressive as driving in Boston Which is I think the most aggressive you have to be in the entire country And it's you gotta yeah, you gotta go for it and these bicyclists said they really shouldn't be on the road There's just risking life and living you are very anti bike Brian Warden in Downs Illinois 88

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Anniversary Donations, Global Listener Shoutouts

The hosts read a long list of $88.15 donations made in honor of a wedding anniversary. Contributors from Alberta, Wisconsin, Australia, and Germany are acknowledged, with some requesting title changes or personalized cards.

donations· anniversary· canada· australia· germany

1:50:26 He actually says happy anniversary even though the 8815 is the anniversary donation, which I will now read a bunch of happy well-wishers who said Happy Anniversary and we had quite a few of them to myself and Mimi. And you all receive a card it won't be tomorrow but you'll get one in the next month Including Arthur Gobbits, the Sir Knight of Kitties. Sir Hugger of Kitties? Sir Hugger of Kitties and he writes something in Dutch which says to hug kitties I guess You want to give it a try? I'm not going to read it Oh, Lieve John en Mimi van harte gefeliciteerd oh en een knuffel van de katjes Groetjes! Sir Hugger of Kitties Yeah what does it translate too? It says... And they never had a fight

1:51:10 Sir Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta Canada 8815. These are all gonna be 8815 so I'll just go along with that. A lot of thank yous. Thank you. Thank you. Sir Robert Goschko Scott Waldherr in Madison Wisconsin Aaron Rush and Avon South Dakota sir Richard Chow in Fullerton California He says also what do I need to do change my title? Hmm. I don't know we have to think would you know just send us an email it would just change it oh he wants a Be anonymous see namas no

1:51:51 You have to be... Oh, we're not. We're just a scatter shot. Just take any letter you want. No! You can't have all knights just choosing the letter. Well that's what they've been doing. Yeah if there is another knighthood... oh look, you are in charge of that I'm not gonna know but whatever. Oh thanks. Seth Griffin from South Elgin Illinois 8815 Stuart Morrison in Doncaster Victoria Australia and congratulations from Australia Dean Hayes is In New Brownfells wrongfuls new Braunfels. Oh, it's it pronounced Bronfels new Bronfels well the new Bronfels area makes the

1:52:30 the barbecue, the side cooker that is absolutely the one to get. The new Braunfels barbecue setup, they used to have one called a Hondo I don't think they make that anymore but they make a bunch of them. They make the best and made from pipes and other people say oh they're just made from pipes yes there may be like oil you know refinery big pipes and their dynamite product Nicholas Principe in North Carolina, and Fuquay Varina. And he's also a KM4 DMO73s. Charles Pronson in Edmond Oklahoma Kevin McLaughlin in Locust North Carolina Lucas Zua in Munich Deutschland good for him

1:53:26 Mark Andre Labelle in Montreal, Quebec. He says he wants his personalized card good for him you'll get one Norman McDonough in Woodstock Ontario David Rosa in Clarkston Michigan and it says from actually sir sir Norman is a black knight I'm sorry Sir David no sir sir There's some big spreadsheets look all the way across David Rosa is a loyal black knight in Clarkston, Michigan. Beatlemania with a D in Milpitas California 88-15 and then we drop to Richard Moffat who came in with 83-15 and I do have a note he sent a note which is worth reading he's talking about it just not I'll just kind of summarize but he's bitching about the NASA

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NASA New Horizons Pluto Data, Transmission Speed Skepticism

Calculations regarding the New Horizons mission to Pluto suggest that transmitting 64 gigabytes of data at the reported slow speeds would take nearly a decade, rather than the 16 months claimed by NASA. This discrepancy leads to skepticism about the mission's technical transparency and funding motives.

nasa· pluto· new horizons· data transmission· baud rate

1:54:22 New Horizons Pluto thing. And he starts off by saying, you two guys said that NASA was a bunch of liars and I agree! And then he talks about- Now I did some work, I did some research, I do a little work on what he says is it's... He says that the because of the distance and all other aspects of that spaceship is sending data at what he claims is 900 baud which is very slow. And I found one of the online calculators and I put in how long...I read about all these, and all these reports are vague and they're all over the place science writing... You mean to transfer a picture? Is this what you're talking about with the amount data transferred for high-definition picture okay got it this is what this is what I questioned initially

1:55:13 Anyway, so I looked into...I read all the articles I could and I found that there's some people saying get one kilobit or two kilobits maybe. And then if you read enough they're gonna be able to send twice as much data in other words not one but two by turning the antennae so that you get two polarized signals that go out one vertical, one horizontal. And there's all these things...but they say it can only transmit eight hours a day because it's so busy. And you gotta have a lot of error correction going on? I would hope but I did the calculation because one of the articles again, the science writing in this country has deteriorated but one of the articles is that got...this is a vehicle from using computer technology from 2005

1:55:55 He says in the letter that, well this is a bunch of old crap. But no the 2005 computers could kick ass there's no question about that and there are two 32 gigabyte drives on this thing too and one of the article claims they're full of data that they have to ship back so I found the calculator and at 20...I used 2400 baud! I cranked it up so this thing is cooking 24 hours a day How long would it take to send 64 gigs of data? Now, everybody's talking about these 16 months we're going to have to wait for these pictures and all the rest of it. My calculation based on one of the standard calculators... It is probably closer to eight years. Ten! That's what I thought yeah. It's ten years

1:56:45 It would take to send the 64 gigs at 2400, not 900 or just using it 8 hours a day. So something's wrong and he is right! He says the whole thing is just to get more money for NASA. Did you also see the crab on Mars? That's another one that was unexplained. No I haven't seen the crab. The Mars rover there's clearly a crab that you can see And NASA is just not answering. Don't worry about it. Wow! It's a space crab. You're watching too much Star Trek. No, unfortunately just reading NASA press releases that's all you need to do. Anyway onward Lucero Mose in Vallabh Beach New South Wales Australia 7890 and there is some sort of birthday or something coming up

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Defcon Meetup, No Agenda Community Updates

Updates from the No Agenda community include a report from a Defcon 23 meetup and shoutouts to listeners in the Philippines and New Zealand. A "make good" is performed for Oscar Schenck, promoting his private surf school, Hot Zone Surf.

defcon· meetup· philippines· mile high club· hot zone surf

1:57:48 And check over that notice. It seems to be a douchebag in here. Oh, it's a douche bag Yeah, congrats. I like to call out my partner as a douche bag Not donating in spite of the fact that he hit in the he was hitting them out four years ago No name required you need we need names are gonna copy on names or no more names. Yeah, I don't know why we care We never even invented this idea Sir JD the Baron of Silicon Valley came in 77 23. Yeah, he's a he Says hi good wishes to the Knights and dames anyone else at Defcon 23 the meetup There was probably eight people there there were ten people I counted them mm-hmm and they may have been more only 10 in the photo and They have assured they are Ramsey Kane so Ramsey Cain is given t-shirts away And nice though you won't run around def con with people wondering what the hell it's going on

1:58:42 James Green II, birthday coming up. Mesquite Texas 7373-7373-7373's Stephen Morris and I'm sorry Sir Brian W the green of Ham's night 7373 comes in monthly You can give him a little love. Yeah, 73 cents. I thought one would be enough for both of them but okay that's fine. Stephen Morris, so you love bar hams? Stephen Morris 6633 from Holly Springs North Carolina Scott Checkeye in Harwick Pennsylvania 5555 Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond Virginia 5232

1:59:20 5432, 5432. Ian, almost...Ian Larson in Riverhead New Zealand. He says still no make good on the last donation? What do we have to make good of? Yeah I had sent him another note he had donated a hundred dollars a couple of shows back with some notes about how he was out of work and now he's got a job and wants to split his wages with us or something it made no sense. It was about him taking a bus and train and something. He wanted a call-out for something I didn't under...I don't understand anymore. It was very confusing, so we read this still no make good on the last donation is down there. I don't know what were you supposed to do? I think he wanted us to promote something which i'm not really a fan of. I didn't see that in the note!

2:00:05 And the thing is, he doesn't...he uses different names. It's Ian and then it's Larson and I told him that was confusing too. If you ever hear back from him we'll figure it out eventually. Promise? Because this is what happens people email me well John messed this up and they email me like what am I gonna do about it Sir Blake night of procrastination Los Angeles California 5280 Vincent Benedict Pi Castro May mean de Castro yeah, he's in this is a good one. He is in Metro Manila the Philippines nice 5280 we need Philippine listeners

2:00:43 Get us some likes on our Facebook page. Todd Kramer...it's all Kramer or Kramer in Watsonville, California 5280. These are people who are now members of the Mile High Club. Ah! They're already in 5280? Good. Yeah so I'm going to just list them off Gregory Worley and Evington Virginia Dennis Adams in Vienna Virginia Jason Daniels in Dallas Texas Joseph DeMartino in Ocala, Florida. R.D. Swart in the Netherlands. Ohmolo. Ohmolo. Brian Betancourt in Salem Massachusetts Nuts Sir David Rosa in Clarkson Michigan Nathan Peters Middleton Connecticut Garrett Evister in Murrieta California David Peet Aubrey Texas Where's Aubrey Texas?

2:01:39 Jan van der Laan in Ossen. Very good, 30. But he's in for... I'm sorry David Peat and Jan Van Der Laan are $50 donors they're not members of the Mile High Club. No they're 280 feet short. Sure they'll get in before they can't. Garygeck.com in Beverly Hills Anthony Garlanger these are $50 donors Anthony Garlanger Downers Grove Illinois Jonathan Mayer in Zinnia Ohio Tim Abel or Abel in Burgfield, UK $50. Alexander Sukhovy in Moscow

2:02:19 So we'd always in this guy has got to be a knight by now. He's always I'm surprised that he's not We have to send him a note and ask you how I do that Steve Chipman in San Rafael, California And I think that concludes because we have one more but I don't know if it's underneath or what so this was I think a make good This is associate executive producer for 741 Oscar Schenck Yeah, I said you guys always read the full letter in this case something went wrong right now. It's okay We start I started my business. I'm going through a bit of a rough patch I would really appreciate if you find the time to at least mention my private surf school hot zone

2:02:56 There you go. Where is it? Hotzone surf calm okay, that was a part of his original Associate executive producer note Okay, all right happy to fix that happy to fix now even the bill plug you your study a hot zone surf calm HOTC o any but then then we have let's see Bernie Adama And the idea was instead of becoming a baronet, he wanted to knight his son John. So he was handing over the knighthood and because it was spelled out properly in communication with the back office... ...John Atima now becomes a black knight." Right! And it's Atima? A-teema? Atima? He told us once we every time you get run into his name We say both Atima and Atama I think its Atima. I think it is too

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VoidZero Baby Announcement, Knighting Ceremony

Mark "VoidZero," who manages the show's technical infrastructure, is congratulated on the news of an upcoming baby boy. The segment concludes with a formal "knighting" ceremony for P-Anonymous and John Atima, inducting them into the No Agenda Round Table.

voidzero· infrastructure· knighthood· p-anonymous· john atima

2:03:47 But whatever the case, his son is now a Black Knight which is not necessarily a higher designation. It's just a designation indicating that there was a foul up by us and some people like the name Black Knight they think it's cooler And then I have one final announcement from the NOAgenda family. Mark VoidZero, who as you know runs... he's the dude named Ben, runs the entire infrastructure And he went through some crazy surgery, he had a pleurectomy. It was terrible! Pleurectomies no good He got a big battle scar across his chest But at the mean time there were some other stuff going on in his life which I've been privy to and now after they had the 20 week test we can officially announce that VoidZero and his lovely partner are going to have a baby boy Ah

2:04:46 How nice is that? That's terrific. He's a great guy! He has no idea what's about to happen to him Well, it won't be a bad thing No...no it won't It'll just make him have to concentrate It just never ends Well, no there's THAT But other than that, would you rather be a never-ending, even though it could be problematic, or would you rather be Lindsey Graham? Good point.

2:05:24 Alright, we got Dean Hayes celebrating today. Luciro Moos says happy birthday to his son who turned 26 on August 7th James Green II says happy birthday to his son Atticus who was 4, will be four on the 10th of tomorrow and we say happy 23rd birthday to Dame Joan Audufre Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe Whoa what was that? What happened? I don't know It's a bug in the machine. Okay, so we did our make goods and Penonymous becomes SirPenonymous is that now was that an official knighting? I'm so confused by all of these systems. Yes it is! He made it he made it in okay So we want to Penonymous on stage and we want John Atama please if you can get your sword out there John that would be yeah okay

2:06:25 Penonymous, John Adama both of you now can enter the table of the round. We have our knights and dames I'm very happy and proud to pronounce KV Sir Adam a Black Knight and sir P. Anonymous for you we have Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Bad Science of Perky Breasts Raspberry Pies and Breakfast Burritos Pork Ribs and Pale Ale Sake and Sushi Malted Barley and Hops Root Beer and Legos Ass Cream with Bear Fillings Whiskey and Wet Wipes Cannabis and Cabernet Happy Van Winkel Bourbon served by Oktoberfest Frauleins And of course we always have the Mutton in Mead so both of you can head on over to know a generation comm slash rings and give Eric the shill all of your info and We'll get those off to you as soon as possible As soon as possible it says we do. We were talking about human a minute ago or so with Richard Moffitt's complaint about NASA mm-hmm I have a clip that is interesting just for one factoid You know those those rocks that are in Death Valley that they show their moving

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Death Valley Moving Rocks, NASA Research Funding

The mystery of the "wandering rocks" in Death Valley's Racetrack Playa was solved by researchers who observed thin sheets of ice pushing the stones across the mud. NASA's involvement in a 10-year study of these rocks is questioned as a potential waste of space-exploration funds.

death valley· sailing stones· nasa· ice sheets· racetrack playa

2:07:26 No, no. You just don't remember it but everyone has seen about these rocks is these big giant rocks that were like 50 pounds and they're in the middle of Death Valley and they have a path behind them as though they've been moving and in fact they have been moving so this is brought up constantly You know, people are so aliens are moving the rocks. Aliens or wait a minute this is my line Yeah it would have been your line if you knew about these rocks and nothing now because you would have said that because that's what everyone says all there somethings fishy about these rocks and then they found out it was no big deal

2:08:02 But this little report that discusses how these rocks move, which I think is pretty obvious once they describe it. Is prefaced by a guy who set a camera up and he showed time-lapse photography shows these objects flying around in the sky in pretty much the same exact circle. He thinks they may be flying saucers when if you look at and think about because of the trail you can see the white and red showing that these are planes circling the airport, you know flying over this area. Yeah yeah pattern flying the pattern. Yeah they're flying a pattern it's the same pattern they fly around and around and so it's got nothing to do with anything but did that but this report has one little interesting factoid besides the explanation for these moving rocks Heffernan captures a trail in the sky circling above them

2:08:57 wondering what was that. None of us had heard anything, none of us had seen anything with our eyes at the location so it was quite a surprise to actually see something so significant circling three times over this shot Could this be the mysterious cause of Death Valley's wandering rocks? Planetary scientist Ralph Lorenz doesn't think so There's actually a clue to this process and that is in the Canadian Arctic, boulders can be rafted by ice. You can have acres of ice for the wind to drag on That magnifies the wind force on a rock and then can bulldoze it But Death Valley is not an icy wasteland It's the hottest place on earth What the hell am I listening too? This explanation just doesn't play

2:09:51 A NASA-funded research team sets up an experiment to track the rocks on Racetrack 5 for 10 years. After a two year wait, their patience pays off... Until very recently nobody had seen the rocks move but in fact that changed this winter In winter the extreme temperatures of Death Valley can work both ways. Death Valley is a desert but during winter especially at night it freezes when that lake froze over On several occasions, rocks have been seen to move. Sheet ice forms around the rocks lifting them clear of the lake bed When the ice thaws it breaks up Some of it clings to rock forming a kind of floating life saver on the slippery mud of the lake bed A gentle push from wind is enough to slide the rocks along the valley floor

2:10:45 If the ice is somehow floating rocks, then you hardly need any wind at all actually to move it. All right. Okay. Explain this. This would have been better if you'd known about these rocks but here's the thing that got me about... okay now we know why the rocks move. You're gonna see reports about these rocks and they're not going to mention this reality but it's a simple thing that why the rocks are moving Here's what got me about this. If you listen right in the middle he said NASA decided to figure out why these rocks are moving and they started a 10-year project. What a waste of money! Why does NASA give a crap about these rocks in Death Valley that looks like they're moving around at all?

2:11:36 What is NASA? I thought NASA was about outer space. Oh, it's obvious whenever they have one of these phony baloney Mars missions which of course is in the desert... I knew you'd go there! Yeah well that's obvious to me come on come on it's obvious. It's awful. Thanks anyway all right I just want to inform the public who know about these rocks The rocks are moving and it's because of ice. Ice. iPhone schmife phone Alright, it is Sunday. Time for some tech news! Not the kind of stuff you'll hear from the Tech Horny shows but this is The Real Deal and I would like to start off with... It's becoming apparent now with Black Hat Defcon whatever its called there in Vegas. There are two of them. Are they at the same time?

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Tesla Hacking, Defcon Cybersecurity News

At the Black Hat and Defcon security conferences, researchers demonstrated that Tesla vehicles and Android fingerprints are vulnerable to hacking. Additionally, a new digital mode for ham radio called FSQ (Fast Simple QSO) is introduced for high-frequency chat and file transfers.

tesla· hacking· defcon· black hat· fireeye

2:12:24 No, one's a week before and then the other one comes. They're like bang-bang. Right So here was my takeaway from two stories of course we all wanted to see the presentation from these hackers who were paid to take control of the Jeep They're apparently Tesla had a car on premises in the hacking area and everyone was invited to hack into the Tesla. It seems to me like this is very coincidental that you know we've got all these these cars are all hackable but over here, the Tesla not at all hackable. What I was reading during this period was that Tesla's

2:13:04 infinitely hackable. That's what I thought because they do software downloads over you know like over the Wi-Fi or something that anyone could probably... It is probably 4G Whatever they're doing, yeah probably. But they're doing software upgrades to the systems that seem to me that if you could just get the code to talk to Tesla, you could load a whole system in there that would take it over." Tesla recruiters were on hand along with members of California-based company's security team. Tesla cars are highly computerized — they also call it the data center on wheels. New features as well as software updates are pushed out to vehicles over wireless internet connections. Quote, They're not messing with our software!

2:13:43 This is one of the experts. She knew of no cyber attacks aimed at Tesla cars. Data center on wheels, so we'll see what happens there... The news about and I thought that you know we've often talked about the fingerprint readers on phones uh so another piece of news coming out of Vegas hackers can remotely steal fingerprints from Android phones And not that that is so surprising, but surprising was where this information came from. Do you remember the company known as FireEye? Oh yeah we talked about them! Yeah these are the guys who are already sanctioned and indemnified under CISA under the Cyber Information Sharing Act companies can share information with them and then pass it on and they act as the complete guardian to all... They're the gatekeepers. The gateway. So these guys have infiltrated

2:14:39 It's time for, you know, Defcon Black Hat. It's time for a new one people it really is this your shit is compromised the feds are all over this That's been four years yeah well I don't think everyone realizes it and then just they do And then wanted to just there's a link in the show notes under the NA tech news for the hams out There there's a new digital mode which have been playing with its FSQ stands for fast simple QSO specifically designed for HF. And it's pretty cool, it's like a chat program! There is something I've been thinking should be done maybe with Morse code but of course your throughput data rates are pretty low... So you're typing in lines kind of like IRC except when you're transmitting then you're not receiving at the same time

2:15:35 But you type in a line, hit return. Boom! It can also alert you if someone's looking for you but you can also transfer files small files There is some error correction in there it's pretty cool. This is very... Transferring files was illegal? Well the It's a gray area. You're not allowed to have encryption that does...unless there is a very clear public way to decrypt, it is available to all? That's really the main thing so yeah files could arguably be skirting around that issue but it doesn't seem too much of a problem I mean you know there's weather data being transferred no there's weather data being transferred all kinds of things but I really like this and you can get an FL Digi in the new version

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North Korea Time Zone, Japanese Colonial History

North Korea announced the creation of "Pyongyang Time," setting its clocks back 30 minutes to break from the time zone imposed during Japanese colonial rule. While media outlets portrayed the move as erratic, historical context shows it is a return to the original Korean time zone used before 1910.

north korea· pyongyang time· kim jong un· japan· time zone

2:16:23 No agenda hams check it out, and let's see if we can I haven't actually made a successful contact with it. I know the bands have been pretty shit Please, please. All right quick roundup here first of all we have news coming out of North Korea the way it has been picked up on Facebook is predictable crazy those guys are nuts with crazy North Korean that guy's insane! It's all about regime legit legitimacy I think this North Korean leader has been having a hard time I think holding things in place

2:17:01 It's all about perpetuating the myths of this leadership and the Kim family. That demand for obedience, that siege mentality is part of what seems to be Kim's M-O during his short stint in power...to create his own reality inside North Korea where outside truths don't apply to him from possibly faking a missile launch from a submarine to flaunting diplomatic rules making Dennis Rodman the highest profile American to visit Pyongyang during his rule This report is so great. It's really not true there. I mean, hey we had the Clapper went to North Korea But no, we'll only talk about crazy Dennis Rodman. Regardless of the PR fiasco it turned out to be... I'm gonna blast ass what the hell you think! Well he didn't- Robin didn't have c- He had a bit of a meltdown there at the end that didn't work out It was alcohol or something The latest example of Kim's own reality? He's creating his own time zone He calls Pyongyang Time Setting all North Korean clocks back 30 minutes That will happen on August 15th The 70th anniversary of North Korea's liberation from what they call the wicked Japanese imperialists

2:18:05 Analysts say it won't have much practical effect. I already control when people wake up in the morning with loudspeakers and revolutionary music. Nothing is computerized there, so they don't have to rewrite any code it's all manual so someone just has to come in and turn the speakers on a little earlier in the morning." So with my no agenda thinking hat on exactly what I expected turns out to be true not if you listen this report as well this guy's so reality distortion field he wants his own time zone oh he's crazy Well, can I... well, no. A little tidbit in there? No! Yeah, I have a tidbit that i want to share first. You think im gonna steal your punchline again? Yes you've been very successful with that today go ahead No but I will. I don't think it's your punch line but they specifically say they have no computers and they have like hand code everything you know we had code in this case punch cards wake up at somehow six

2:19:05 Speaker, we got time to honor our leader now. Exactly So how are they says massive hacking community that they can bust into Sony? Yeah Does that make any sense know the interesting thing about this story and here's something you can use would be Undone if they do more about this story it's a fun one It's a fun little thing like that guy is so crazy He wants his own times or well Donald Trump will want one next that's how its gonna go I You need to know that when the Japanese annexed Korea in 1910, the actual Korean Peninsula time was the new time zone. 30 minutes earlier than it is today and the Japanese changed it to Tokyo Standard Time or Tokyo Time

2:19:58 South Korea eventually went back to their original Korean time, just like North Korea in 1954. But then in 1961 they said it doesn't make sense or whatever and they went back to the Tokyo time. So what he's saying is correct and the Japanese did a number on Korea Oh yeah, no this is inexcusable. They destroyed their language! They had to invent their language. Reinvent it completely that's why it's so funny looking It's modern. Yeah, the Japanese language actually is a descriptor Every one of those little characters is a descriptor or of how you're supposed to form your mouth To say or to make up to make whatever sound that the descriptive. Oh, that's the kanji characters You mean it's not Kanji its Korean and that's why there are Koreans. Yes. Yeah That's why there's a bunch of round Characters which means your mouth is supposed to be in around shape right? Right, right

2:20:55 It's a very unusual way of doing it, but they had to do something. They could still speak Korean but nobody...you know, they couldn't write it I don't know how they lost the language completely like that But they did well all I want to pass on to our producers and and audience at large When you hear someone do this That crazy guy! You just say no Well actually was the Japanese who changed him that was the original time? There are half-hour times going back And there saying to celebrate kicking the crazy Japanese out of 70 years ago, out of North Korea. So you did mention something in that little commentary that I think I should emphasize please now that you mentioned it all bet that somehow before this whole election cycle is over here comes they're going to equate yet from John and with Donald Trump That would be fabulous They're gonna do it

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Celebrity Breakups, Muppets Primetime Promotion

A string of high-profile celebrity breakups, including Gwen Stefani and Zayn Malik, culminated in the "split" of Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog. The Muppet breakup is identified as a marketing stunt to promote their new primetime television show.

miss piggy· kermit the frog· gwen stefani· zayn malik· marketing

2:21:50 You've already did you know I set it up from the future. I'm already feeling it I'm also feeling another gay move coming on another Gay agenda big gays big gay big gay here we go Okay It might be time to have a heart-to-heart with Hollywood is there something in the water? Because this summer is about to be remembered as the summer of celebrity breakups This is actually probably good news for devoted One Direction fans. Former band member Zayn Malik is single again! Malik broke off his two-year engagement to his Little Mix fiancé Perrie Edwards two weeks ago, leaving her devastated.

2:22:28 The week also brought us the news of Gavin Rossdale and Gwen Stefani's divorce after 13 years of marriage. The couple, who met in 1995 when their bands No Doubt and Bush toured together said in a statement that decision was mutual and they will remain partners to jointly raise three sons In July, Miranda Lambert and Blake Shelton shocked fans after announcing their split after four years of marriage. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner announced their separation in June after 10 years of marriage. Like Lambert and Shelton they also dealt with a cheating scandal what's being called nannygate I'd say we could look to Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog for the ideal Hollywood romance but

2:23:06 But they just broke up too. The couple posted matching Facebook statuses saying in part, our personal lives are now distinct and separate and we'll be seeing other people pigs frogs at all Some suspect Kermit has spent too much time working on the Muppets new primetime show And it's thrown a wrench in the romance Isn't it unbelievable how far they will go to promote a stupid movie? A stupid prime-time show That was a long road Yeah But how did you even find... what are you doing? This is all over these Facebooks. Oh, Facebook! Yes I know there's this piggy and the termitive frogs split up. But when they say they would see other frogs or pigs, I think there's a gay thing coming What?! Yeah, I think Miss Piggy may get it on with another pig. You think Miss Piggy is going to go lesbian? Yep Okay

2:24:03 Keep your eye on it. It's pretty risky, but keep your eye on it these things happen well Kermit could too he makes more sense He always seemed a little light in the loafers yeah all right what else do we have here I got a letter here from David Farrakh Kelly fab mod he's in the apparently in the UAE This guy, Habitour is a prominent real estate developer from the UAE according to Forbes magazine number 335-335 the richest. Can't say I know the man other than a phone call I had with him because he wasn't happy with one of our physicians at a hospital where I worked. He published an opinion piece discussing in a nutshell, he says that Obama is to blame for the rise in ISIS well CIA and that Donald should be our next president

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

UAE Perspective on Trump, Middle East Leadership

A letter from a resident in the UAE describes how Gulf Arab leaders view President Obama as weak compared to the "great man" leadership style they respect. Donald Trump's background as a businessman is seen as a positive attribute in a culture that values successful negotiators.

uae· donald trump· barack obama· leadership· gulf coast

2:24:58 He says he's sure this mirrors many of the GCC leaders, Gulf Coast some I don't know. Leaders for the following reasons one they definitely view Obama as weak another quick anecdote i was talking to a Pakistani taxi driver in Jeddah recently and he stated said By the way, always say said not stated. When George Bush talks 9 million people stop talking and listen when Obama talks no one listens his English wasn't so good but I got the point This sentiment is echoed throughout almost every conversation I have as an American discussing U.S. presidential politics with GCC residents and citizens. The UAE in particular has a rich history of Arab traders and negotiators, as such they have a tremendous amount of respect for successful ethical businessmen."

2:25:50 This is one of the reasons that Al Habtour is so well-respected and has such a high prominence in their culture. Donald fits the bill, they have a fixation," he says at point three—and this is important and this is true—they have a fixation on the one great man leader concept." Now, this is always distressing to me because we... always talk about a big game, but one great man that sort of leader. But we're really I think a country of team players and I really think we are not this that's why we're so good at team sports. A lot of these countries can't play teams for some in the Japanese can

2:26:30 But most countries, you know...to me soccer is less of a team sport. It's always the one...you have to have that one superstar. He's the one great man every teams got one and that's all they got. The only guy they talk about and he's the guy who makes fantastic shots and all the rest. And I just found this letter to be somewhat interesting because we're as a country, I think we're more collaborative, more team-oriented. Yes, I would agree. So, you know Trump I don't know if he's a team player. Oh i think he's a leader that knows how to lead the team Well maybe might be one of those great delegators That's what Reagan was so good at! I'm gonna try and become a delegate here in the great state of Texas

2:27:15 Oh, go for it. Yeah I was reading up on that now is reading up on the Republican Party in different states has done differently think you have to run for it or something or even yes no there yeah you get there is you do have to run forward here in Texas but you do not have to become a Republican if you want to vote in the primary Well, you don't have to do anything in it. Here in California to vote Republican in the primary had to be Republican and they let you vote Democrat if you're independent but not Republican. Well I'm glad because... So are going to go Republican just to get on the delegate thing? Yeah sure! You can go to the convention. Yeah I'd love to that and the ultimate goal is of course for us to get into the White House and hang out with President Trump, bang some chicks in the Lincoln bedroom smoke some weed with Willie

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Water Fluoridation Debate, Kentucky Cavity Study

Research into water fluoridation in Kentucky shows that cavity rates nearly doubled after fluoridation became law. The discussion explores the history of fluoride as an industrial waste product and its alleged use in covert operations to make populations more docile.

fluoride· water supply· kentucky· cavities· mimi dvorak

2:28:05 Who's Willie? Nelson. Oh, really... This is in the show notes just shifting off for the last few bits here of the show this is what you sent me earlier in the week maybe it was a beginning of the week about um a new study and this is something that it's in the show notes for a reason so you can use this and find more research if you want but in 1987 28% of Kentucky preschoolers developed cavities. Now that number increased to 47 percent in 2001, and that is almost a doubling... actually went up much further in... let's see when the last measurement was done

2:28:56 after fluoridated water became law in Kentucky. Yeah, Mimi is running for city council she got through the primaries... Before you go into that whenever I say you know fluoride in your water actually creates fluorescein and it hurts children's teeth people always look at me like my hair is on fire So there's a big debate going on up in Port Angeles, in that area because they keep fluoridating the water most recently which has ruined the water up there. The water up there used to be delicious now it tastes like crap. Same in Austin we have fluoridated water and its shit! It tastes horrible. It tastes terrible and you know this is just a way to get rid of waste product at the way I see...I was always on the wrong side of this debate

2:29:43 But so Mimi got on the anti-fluoride side of the debate, and she's a fantastic researcher. She is the one who dug that up. And she is digging at one thing after another and it's all negative! It all started in the late 40s when they were apparently as part of nuclear waste has got a lot of fluorides... It's a waste product from the aluminum industry. It's hard to get rid off but you can get rid of by diluting And, you know...so they've come up with this bull crap and the dentists are all in on it somehow. They benefit I guess if the cavities actually go up so most of it's nonsense. The research shows that it is nonsense. The whole thing was nonsense bull crap. You mean the fluoridation? Yeah! It doesn't do what its supposed to do

2:30:31 And the only other thing that I know about fluoride is when I read Legacy of Ashes, the CIA book. You'll recall that's when I got very interested in the truth not being exactly the way it was portrayed certainly not in the mainstream. I called my Uncle Don and said, Hey Don what's in this book? Is this really true how it happened? He went yeah, that's pretty much how I remember And one of the passages in the book is covert operatives, when they wanted to ambush an enemy camp at night during the day they would throw extra fluoride into their water supply where there was a stream or if they had you know if they had a water storage tanks and by come evening everyone in the camp would be so docile it just walk right in and take over.

2:31:22 apparently a true covert tactic. Yeah, I found that to be sketchy. I think lithium would probably knock you out more than fluoride but okay... Well how often they've talked about lithium in Washington even they've talked about putting lithium in the water yeah well everybody I think Mimi should say there's a part of Texas has got high lithium ratio. I think, when is this what she's running for? November What is she running for? City Council Alright And I think her platform should be out with the fluoride in with the lithium Vote Mimi Dvorak Is she running as Mimi Dvorak? Mimi Smith-Dvorak maybe Oh tough name Or Merrilee Smith-Dvorak I don't know She has a million ways of using her name Marilyn Smith what? Merrilee Is her name Merrilee Yeah Aww

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Syrian Oil Refineries, Kurdish Energy Production

In northeastern Syria, Kurdish authorities have taken over abandoned oil fields and established makeshift refineries to meet local energy needs. The geopolitical struggle involves competing pipeline interests between Qatar, Turkey, and Iran, with Turkey positioning itself as a primary energy hub for Europe.

syria· kurds· oil refineries· turkey· pipelines

2:32:13 I like Marilee much better than Mimi. She doesn't because as a kid everyone would pronounce it Meroli. Oh, okay So, she hates it. Last bit here this is what is going on with the Kurds and northern Syria we got to keep our eye on now that we are actually attacking that would be us United States of Gitmo Nation This is the Rmeylan oil field in northeastern Syria government forces have fled this Kurdish area near the Turkish border forcing local authorities to fill the void To meet energy needs they've taken over oil production and created around 20 small refineries

2:32:51 When the temperature reaches 50 degrees centigrade, we turn on the burner to heat the crude oil up to 125 degrees and extract the refined petrol. At 150 degrees centigrade gas is obtained then at 350 we get diesel and we turn off the heat." Now I have a question here John Is this...is it that simple? That just heating this up and that's how you refine stuff? I thought refineries were incredibly complicated So that's what a distillation tower does, what he described. And that's what most refineries are the series of distillation towers at distill like you would booze. Well instead of using alcohol from wine or brandy or whatever or grain alcohol and then distilling it and getting the pure stuff, you're doing this with petroleum product now

2:33:40 Some refineries, most refineries also have catalytic cracking and other more complicated processes to break down these molecules using giant huge things that are filled with platinum and other catalysts to bust up these. It eventually goes back to a distillation tower And that's kind of like what he said, it is kind of true. Just looking at this it looked like a bunch of jerry-rigged stuff all strung together I'm like really they can do this? That's what refinery looks like if you've ever looked at it. Refiners are a bunch of jerry rigged stuff. Mainline is the largest oil field in Syria but production has dropped from 165 thousand barrels per day before the outbreak of the war to just 15 thousand

2:34:29 The border of the Islamic State group's self-proclaimed caliphate lies nearby. Its fighters have tried to get hold of these wells since 2014. In recent years, the local Kurdish government has defended and protected these wells and facilities. We've lost hundreds of martyrs in the process no wells or refinery has been the victim of sabotage or theft. Syria's oil production has plummeted to less than 3% of pre-war levels, the fuel produced in these makeshift refineries is of poor quality but it is more affordable than the fuel provided by the state. There are different kinds of fuel on the market

2:35:05 There's the one provided by the regime, there is Iraqi fuel and there is unleaded gasoline. With the exception of clean fuel provided by the regime cars don't work well when they are running on other fuels." The Syrian regime still pays salaries to remaining employees working in oil fields It's an alliance for convenience for Kurdish minority They're willing to cooperate with Damascus Provided that they retain some control over their oil Right. So the way it seems to be shaking out now, as originally deconstructed this is all about Turkey clearing the zone they've got a free zone right above Aleppo which is where we have all these pipelines going of course for the Iran Iraq Syria pipeline which is what Syria chose for foolishly by Mr Assad because of course we need to have the Qatar

2:35:54 Turkey pipeline to then flow that gas into Europe. And, and you know, Turkey is now in this very interesting spot where they have the Turkish stream coming in from Russia. They want to have the Qatari pipeline coming up and they want to be the suppliers of Europe without being a part of Europe...without being a part of NATO." Yeah well course they do! This was big money just in transport. Yeah. So everyone's starting to show their card slowly? Well, they have to now and then it gets rubble eyes and we just do what we want can't wait well it's gonna be tomorrow six months six months well that's optimistic or pessimistic depends on your perspective I'll take optimistic

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

Show Outro, Predator Drone Sign-off

The hosts conclude the episode by reflecting on the "mind control" of the political debates and thanking the listeners for their support. The show ends with the traditional "predator drones" sign-off and a series of audio clips.

sign-off· predator drones· adios mofo· podcast· credits

2:36:45 Because it makes it that much more fun for the show. Yeah, it does It makes it fun for the show It's not good for them or the world at large and those poor people that live in that area are all gonna be Ruined but you know we don't seem to care not at all All right take us out John you got one more for me I do have one I'm gonna put it off It's one of these clips that would need some further discussion will be at the earlier part of this show so I'm kind of Phenique okay with my yeah, I feel these It's very difficult to get into any kind of deconstruction with these moronic debates going on. So hard to find anything of any value. We'll have plenty of stuff for the next show Oh, of course! Oh no... Yeah well the debates had they took center stage and we had to discuss something there we got a clue and we got to see the I remember that somebody in Twitter some Twitter guy That's not it that's not a subliminal message that's a fit-that's a logo

2:37:43 Really it's a logo and maybe he was being sarcastic It didn't seem like it to me, okay Yeah, it is a little bit. That's what your I see a logo your brain sees an F. That's right. That's how it works Perfect you couldn't have been done better the mind control is on I love it that was absolutely fantastic How what a great job they did that was about the only thing? I loved well No, and it's not a debate. You're right. It's bullcrap! This has got to end. It does we need a new format more on that this coming Thursday Please remember us... Mud wrestling! Please remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA We'll be back on Thursday with another NO Agenda in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And i'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on thursday right here

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2:41:05 Come on! Calm down. Adios, mofo. Shut up slave