Episode 732 · Sunday, 21 June 2015

Psych!

A high-stakes week sees the rise of the Trump campaign, a looming Greek debt default, and a deep dive into the digital trail of the Charleston shooting.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h listen | 44 chapters
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About this episode

Donald Trump shakes up the 2016 presidential cycle as media analysts at Morning Joe label him a human IED capable of dismantling the GOP field. While Chuck Todd attempts to marginalize the campaign, Trump challenges official unemployment figures and utilizes populist rhetoric to bypass traditional gatekeepers. The hosts analyze his potential to trigger a political realignment ahead of a predicted economic collapse.

In South Carolina, the FBI investigates a manifesto on LastRhodesian.com linked to Charleston shooter Dylann Roof, though questions remain regarding the site's sudden appearance and stripped metadata. Rick Perry suggests the influence of the drug Suboxone played a role in the tragedy, while alternative theories emerge regarding the possible political assassination of State Senator Clementa Pinckney. Meanwhile, European Council President Donald Tusk calls an emergency summit as Greece faces a potential Eurozone exit and Deutsche Bank struggles with a Triple B Plus credit downgrade.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz debuts a distinctive hairstyle that inspires the creation of the mouffant, a bold mullet-bouffant hybrid. Actor Tommy Chong announces his second cancer battle as ABC News catches heat for misidentifying the legend as a mere reality show contestant. The segment wraps with a technical guide to searing sashimi-grade tuna and a warning about the rise of hexagonal geometry trends on Pinterest.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Virtual Patch Panels, Apple Store Visit, Podfather Discount

A host describes the technical difficulties of reconfiguring a virtual audio patch panel at 1:30 in the morning. To resolve hardware issues, a visit to the Apple Store resulted in the purchase of a 27-inch Thunderbolt monitor and a new trackpad. During the transaction, the host unsuccessfully attempted to secure an educator discount by claiming the title of "Podfather" and showing a video of Steve Jobs.

apple store· thunderbolt· mac mini· podfather· steve jobs· virtual patch panel· audio engineering

00:00 How about a big bouffant? Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, June 21st, 2015. Time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 732. This is no agenda. Celebrating the summer solstice in the rain. Broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Buzzkill Hill in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. All right fair warning I'm grumpy Just so you know which Fair warning, and I won't say what no please don't have you ever done patch panel work John?

00:48 Patch panel yes, you know what I mean patch panel work. Why do that all the time in my stereo system downstairs? Yeah, wait a minute Let's see if I put this thing here And then if I use this and it goes into this one, and I put the HDMI cable over here. Yeah, yeah, but the only shit No, wait wait no I do the sound here and then No, no that won't work because the sound is not gonna. No there'll be sound coming through HDMI, but then again there will be then I get to the Component video over here, but that's coming out of right there now. That's just for your home Yeah, now imagine that I don't know you have a the best podcast in the universe to produce and you're trying to repatch everything and you have to do it virtually though Don't you so yeah, of course, it's that it's virtual which makes it completely ridiculous very complicated and the later it gets or I should say the earlier so around 130 in the morning, you know, then you just want to take a sledgehammer to all this stuff and

01:48 I'm glad you're laughing. I'm glad you think it's funny thing is what I used to do audio over at dishers and which is a production studio that we did the one of those public radio shows at and he had a He had everything, I mean, it's like these audio guys who have studios that are real studios where they bring musicians in. They buy, something comes out, they buy it. So they got a wall, a wall of just devices that are not really in line with anything, they're just there. Oh yeah, well I have that, but none of this is an outboard anymore. He had a real patch panel. And I always thought this was the way to go. But it was like, first you had these patch cables,

02:31 With the big jacks, which are you can't use them for anything else if you confuse a patch cable and insert with an insert You know then yeah, that would be a mess. Yeah, so what they've done in you know in in Typical UI design is you know they make it look like the old patch panels But you still have to do all the thinking in your brain is like I'm gonna patch this to that and then that loops through here And then I have to have a mix minus going back to John it's a long way around of saying I went to the Apple store to Well, I was going to fix the situation and I wound up interestingly with a more expensive solution, but I think it's better instead of... You fixed what? The situation that you had last time when the machine just dropped dead? Yeah. Yeah. So I was using two machines. One machine is the MacBook Air, which has runs all the mixing, the processing, the recording, et cetera, et cetera. And then I was using the other one for, you know, the rundown, the show notes,

03:32 And I decided instead of having two, I would incorporate it into one and though and because my gear runs off of Thunderbolt Thunderbolt Thunderbolt you can't you know you you have to if you want a good monitor you have to get the Thunderbolt monitor with pass-through Thunderbolt long story short so I actually wound up spending more money than a new Mac mini and I think I've got it all working but you know it sounds like it's working yeah but I did a pre-stream this morning and things were all misc and jiggered And you know when you try to get help from a bunch of people in a chat room. Why would that even be possible? Because well they caught it. They were hearing something else. They were hearing like what turned out to be a doubling of the music. And once someone sent me a recording I heard it immediately. People just saying, I can't hear you. Your voice is too soft. Anyway so I wound up buying the 27 inch monitor.

04:31 With the Thunderbolt pass-through and you know, so now I'm on one central processing unit should be okay Thunderbolt pass-through. Yeah. I know it's to me. So now you have a single point of failure that that should be interesting So I'm at the at the Apple store That's you have to drive out to you know, you need a passport to where this thing is located at the domain and you know, so, okay We finally talked to the guy we're talking about. Okay, I'm gonna do this and And I bought a new trackpad, of course, that was another problem. Hail Apple! Sorry, hail Apple, I should say. You get a watch? Yes, hail, not hail. The guy who helped me was one of the few guys who did not have an Apple Watch who worked at the store. Did you specifically point this out to him? I did. And you know what he said?

05:19 Hail Apple. He said, yeah, I got three kids. I got three kids. And then he said, do you have any corporate discount? No. And he's trying to, I can see he's trying to help me. Oh, he asked you if he had a corporate discount. Yeah. And he's trying to help me. And he says, well, are you an educator? I'm like, yeah. Yeah. So, well, no agenda show. He's like, oh yeah, podcasts don't count. And they said, well, look at that. You have to be an official educator and Hitler. I said, well, why don't you take a look at this? And I bring up the YouTube video of Steve Jobs introducing podcasting playing. Oh, yeah. He was very he was very confused. I said, I'm the podfather. Can I get a discount? Yeah, no. OK, thanks. And you didn't get your discount. No, no. Anyway, so hopefully everything should be much better than the previous

06:21 episode for my end, but of course I didn't get a lot of sleep and then I woke up and then there was a software bug in the in the freedom controller. I couldn't save offline copies which Dave Jones had got him out of bed and he did fix it, but I couldn't do everything I wanted to do. So I'm just a little grumpy. We'll move on. I'm just grumpy. This is this is tech grump. It's grumpy radio.com. That's what it is. Hold on. From this gear. John, let's pray. Let's just pray, okay? Okay. Let's pray. You ready? No, yeah. Time has come! May science give us the courage to do what we must! Okay, good. What? Where'd you get that? It's South Park.

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Jane Seymour, Crepe Erase Infomercial, Olive Oil Skincare

Jane Seymour is featured in an infomercial for a skincare product called Crepe Erase, which claims to treat "crepey" skin. The presentation includes a demonstration using slices of dough to represent human skin elasticity, which the hosts characterize as ludicrous. Analysis of the product ingredients suggests the formula relies heavily on common components like olive oil and shea butter.

jane seymour· crepe erase· infomercial· truefirm· skincare· olive oil· dough demonstration

07:01 They had a whole thing like this. Hail science! It's fantastic. Hail science! Exactly. I got an evergreen that works with that. Just incredible play it, it's an evergreen. And I gotta do a JCD evergreen bin and before you do that, but what before you actually play the hail science then play that Okay, okay, hail science followed by that all right It's just incredible Is that warren? No, that is Jane Seymour. Oh, okay. Nice. She's touting some crap that I couldn't... I'm turning around the dial looking for stuff and there's Jane Seymour selling some garbage product.

07:52 I looked it up and it turns out to be pretty much olive oil. That's supposed to make your skin, and you know, skin does feel better with soaking in olive oil. We can play this if you want, because this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen on television, and everybody, and they have an audience. And this is... And what is... The clip will be called Crepe Erase, Crepe Erase, but let me set it up. They've got this audience and during this demo which they're, as she plays, as you play this clip you'll hear it.

08:28 This woman is lecturing Jane Seymour on the greatness of this product. And the audience is all women, and their jaws all dropped. They can't believe what they're seeing. They can't believe this, and you've got to listen to this. It's unbelievable. Well, plump and volume are great ways to describe exactly what crepe-a-rice does. Let me show you a quick demonstration of exactly what I mean on these slices of dough. Like your skin, dough is susceptible to drying and cracking and losing moisture. So what I have... Dough is just like your skin? They're doing it on dough to say it has the same properties as your skin? This is great. In front of me are two slices of dough. One has been treated with Crepe Erase for four days and the other hasn't been treated at all.

09:11 Now take a look at this. When I touch the dough that hasn't been treated with crepe erase, it's actually dry and crumbly. You can see it's flaky. And when I go to pull it apart, there are deep crevices, very similar to crevices you might find in aging skin. There's no snap back, there's no bounce, and in fact there's absolutely no elasticity. Now take a look at this. This is the dough that has been treated with Crepe Erase for four days. Now is this Jane Seymour? This isn't Jane Seymour talking. No, no, this is one of the other Stooges and she's lecturing Jane sitting there. I'm looking at her. Jane is 63 according to the Crepe Erase website. Yes, and she's never had any work done. No, none whatsoever. No, no, no Photoshop, no nothing. As you can see and I can feel it's incredibly moist. Oh, it's crepey skin.

09:59 Yeah. Oh, so C-R-E-P-E-Y, crepey skin. Over time your skin becomes thinner, loses... I'm going to play the clip in a minute. Loses elasticity. I have that. This results in dry, crinkly, cruddy, crusty, crappy ass, shit bag looking crepe paper like skin. It says it right here on the website. that is difficult to treat until now. Nice. It's supple and in fact it's elastic. It has that bounce, that snap back like youthful skin has. It's dull! This is exactly what happens to your skin when you use Crepe Erase. Crepe Erase reconditions your skin so that it's tighter and firmer and it's plumper and it feels like it has more volume. It looks like younger skin. It's just incredible.

10:46 Look at the difference between the dough that wasn't treated with Crepey Race versus the dough that was treated with Crepey Race. The difference couldn't be more obvious and that is why we're all experiencing results that are absolutely mind-boggling. Boggling! The secret to Crepey Race is our exclusive TrueFirm. I want to hear it. As skin matures, the netting that keeps skin young and elastic... This is fabulous. ...making skin look dry, wrinkly and crepey. TrueFirm's Triple Comfy. It's just incredible. Science is amazing! hourly or whoever knows how long with olive oil which seals it. So yeah, now it's a piece of dough and you can pull it and you can push it, it feels soft. This is a ludicrous demonstration. I love that you're totally into it. And you watched this whole program, this whole show? No, I just watched about 10 minutes of it. Once I got my jaw shut. I'm going to try this Crepe-a-Race. Go buy some. You got olive oil in the cabinet, dump it on. The secret is true, firm.

11:56 Olive oil and shea butter. Oh, since you mentioned that, you know, we've been following this. So this is just olive oil is what you're saying, pretty much. Well, if you look it up, there's a couple of debunking websites and they have all the ingredients in there. It doesn't sound like anything special. We've been following this New World Order eugenics program, population control, known as dryer sheets. It's true. I figured it out. Dryer sheets is a new world order population control program trying to kill you with horrible chemicals. And so there is a product that can replace the dryer sheets.

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Wool Dryer Balls, New World Order, Population Control Theory

A discussion regarding the alleged health risks of chemical-laden dryer sheets frames them as a New World Order population control tool. As an alternative, the hosts promote the use of 100% wool dryer balls sourced from Etsy. The segment references the Rothschilds and claims that switching to wool balls is a way to avoid toxic exposure.

dryer sheets· wool dryer balls· population control· chemicals· eugenics· rothschilds

12:41 And it's the... did we talk about this? The... the... the... it's a XL Premium 100% wool dryer balls. I bought two of these balls. I bought... have you received them yet? My balls haven't come yet. No, I mean, I got them from Etsy. I think there's probably a run on these things. Yeah, I think you're right. They're sold out. The No Agenda Show. So what they've done is they take these balls and you can make them yourself and there's a number of how-to sites that show you how to make these dry balls and they're just wool. Dryer balls. Wool balls and they bounce. Dryer balls. It's crazy. They bounce around inside the dryer. Have you tried it? If you tried it, you don't have it. I haven't yet. All right, cool. I'm definitely trying them though.

13:22 Yeah, well this is all because of you, John. You've saved me from the New World Order of Population Control and many people brought, I tweeted this and everyone's buying the dryer balls. I had a guy send me a testimonial about the dryer balls. He goes on and on about how great they are. He says no one would ever use these sheets of whatever. Sheets of death. Sheets of death. And I've been telling people. If they look at me like I'm crazy, that's why I decided to say, you know, just add on to it. Oh, it's a new world order population control program. You didn't know about this? They're trying to kill you. Look up the chemicals. Who's behind it? Uh-huh. Rothschilds. Oh, speaking of which, so whenever I walk, I went to, of course, you know, I go to my spin class, went to ride on Friday.

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Street Hustlers, Handshake Avoidance Tactic

An anecdote describes an encounter with Planned Parenthood canvassers on 2nd Street in Austin. The host details a "social engineering" tactic used by the canvassers involving an introductory handshake to stop pedestrians. To counter this, the host suggests a "psych" maneuver where one pulls their hand away at the last second to maintain momentum while walking.

planned parenthood· street canvassing· social engineering· handshake· psych· austin

14:15 And so it's not too far from the condo I walk around, down 2nd Street. Very often that's where you have Planned Parenthood, uh, rousters. What we call them. You know, they're trying to get you to sign... What? What's a rouster? They're hustlers, rousers. They're trying to get you... Oh, the guy's a pitchman. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they're trying, you know, by... They're trying to get you in to watch a strip show. It's almost like Scientology. Come on, let's do a little... see if we can get you clear. But, you know, I'm always trying to see what their pitch is and then trying to confuse them with a response. This is something I enjoy doing very, very much when people are peddling something on the street, but I just really don't want to be bothered.

15:02 And so they have the bread shirts on, Planned Parenthood. And what have I said in the past? It's like, no thank you, I hate children, I've tried that one, they thought that was pretty funny. That was a good one. Along those lines. But they have a new tactic and, you know, my instantaneous Tourette's reflexes kicked into gear. And I want you to consider doing this if you are trying, if Planned Parenthood hustlers are trying to to get you on the street. So their new tactic is, as you're walking up, they'll say, Hi, how you doing? Which is, you know, and it's hard to be just a dick and go, yeah, it's one thing. Hi, you can manage it. So what you do is you say, Oh, hi. But then here's the new, the new thing they're doing. Then they stick out their hand and say, hi, my name's so-and-so. And

15:55 I think it's probably effective because you have a response when someone sticks out their hand to shake your hand and says their name. You know, if you have any decency in you, your hand kind of comes up automatically. Oh yeah. So, but here's what happened when I did it. So I stick out my hand, there's a reflex and I'm going towards this woman's hand and then I go, psych! And I pulled it away and kept walking. It had completely just out of the blue. They were looking at me like, what the, what is it, what?

16:33 It worked so this is a recommendation Yeah, that is better my idea. What should be the full both take both your hands pull them back and hold them around shoulder height In a palm forward manner like you're scared to death No, I think mine is better because you can just keep walking you know if you don't have to stop you see oh You put your hand out there psych Well, you could also spit in your palm and shake your hands. I guess that'd be funny. You could do that. You could do that. Anyway, that was my idea. Yeah, I think it's a good one. Hey, today, although not by official or this month, not by official presidential proclamation, but apparently, and this is a call back to something

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Ukraine Financial Crisis, IMF Loans, Arseniy Yatsenyuk

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk acknowledges that the $25 billion IMF EFF program is insufficient to cover the country's financial gap. He notes that the majority of the loan funds are being directed immediately to creditors, including Russia. The hosts discuss the lack of media coverage regarding protests against President Petro Poroshenko and the involvement of Victoria Nuland.

ukraine· arseniy yatsenyuk· imf· debt· russia· petro poroshenko· victoria nuland

19:42 She's in and out all the time. Yeah, she's meeting with people and you know talking, well, he's not doing a great job. Oh, well performance review not so fantastic. Gonna be in his record, his file. Yeah, so even though we touched on this I thought it was nice to get this little clip from Yatsenyuk to say pretty much that they need a lot of money, much more than the IMF can give them. And the main reason is the money the IMF has given them and is going to now give them on top because they can't make repayments or make their payments. is only going to creditors, which is indeed, as you point out, directly to Russia. You are well aware that the government launched a four-year EFF program with the IMF. Together with the IMF, we expect to get up to $25 billion in the forthcoming four years, but the gap is much bigger, much bigger. But you are well aware this money goes directly to our creditors. Oops.

20:43 But they need much more than the 25 billion? Okay. People, you should move out of there if you can. It's going to be very, very bad. And then Greece. Now I received not one but two emails unsolicited from my former New York banker friend here in Austin. And the first one Was watch what happens when two billion dollars leaves in one day and he points to that's Monday Yeah, exactly points to Monday and then I'll play this little bit first. This is President Tusk. He's the the Polish now he is he's the successor to haiku Herman Herman von Rumpuy in the EU and Tusk comes out and

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Greece Debt Default, Euro Summit, Donald Tusk

European Council President Donald Tusk convenes an emergency Euro summit to address the Greek debt crisis as the assistance program nears its 11-day expiration. Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras visited Russia to discuss a pipeline deal, signaling potential diplomatic shifts. Financial experts predict a high probability of default and a possible "Grexit" from the Eurozone if a compromise is not reached by month's end.

greece· euro summit· donald tusk· default· alexis tsipras· vladimir putin· eurozone

21:29 He's calling for a summit on Monday regarding Greece. We'll listen to him and then I'll give you the opinion of the banker. The situation of Greece is getting critical. The current economic assistance program to Greece runs out in 11 days. Four months of negotiations have not led to the necessary compromise. The Eurogroup meeting yesterday did not manage to break the deadlock. The game of chicken needs to end and so does the blame game. Because this is not a game and there is no time for any games. It is reality with real possible consequences. First and foremost for the Greek people.

22:13 This is why I have decided to convene a Euro summit on Greece on Monday evening. The purpose of the summit is to make sure... I think if it's Monday evening, it'll be to celebrate that they brought Greece down. We'll be drinking. That we all understand each other's positions and the consequences of our decisions. We need to get rid of any illusions that there will be a magic solution at the leaders level. The summit will not be the final step. There will be no detailed technical negotiations. That remains the job of the finance ministers. We are close to the point where the Greek government will have to choose between accepting what I believe is a good offer of continued support or to head towards default. At the end of the day, this is and can only be a Greek decision and a Greek responsibility.

23:11 There's still time. I'm sorry, but only a few days. Let us use them wisely Okay, let us use them wisely. It is going to I wish I miss haiku Herman with a haiku You know a little haiku about the demise of Greece. So here's what the but the banker sent me He said I have not been predicting default until recently Because all public comments on the danger of a Greek default came from Germany and France now however by the way The banker never emails me unprompted Yeah, I get that picture. Now, however, the Greek prime minister is warning that what a disaster it would be. The fat lady has sung in my career every time a government is explained there is no possibility of default, they go down often the next weekend. So I think you're right. Monday, we'll see what could be next weekend. Well, there was a giant economic Davos summit. They have these. Oh, in suburbia. They have they.

24:13 these events in Russia for the Asian countries, it's got some name, and they had one in St. Petersburg and the Greek, head honcho Greek guy showed up there. That's where he made the statement, I think. And he goes on about... Now the guy behind all this, which is the Austin, Texas Greek, the economic guy. Yeah, the cool looking dude. The cool looking guy with the leather. He doesn't believe that this would happen although he may have always believed it would happen and he helped it along the way. I think it was brought in to help it, yeah. But let's play Greek default on the News Hour. This is the News Hour report and they have the guy speaking and this guy does some details. But in the last five days around the same amount has been withdrawn.

25:02 People here realise finally that next Monday is the crunch. If there's no deal between Greece and its lenders, the country will most likely default on its debts. And after that, warns the central bank, comes a slump and possible exit from the Eurozone. Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras was in Russia today. Though Greece has remained in NATO under the left, it feels abandoned by its allies and with a Russian pipeline deal just signed, he's keeping his diplomatic options open. Let's be serious. The so-called Greek problem is not a Greek problem but European. The name of the problem is not Greece, it is Eurozone and it concerns its structure.

25:45 For Vladimir Putin, whose diplomatic aim is a divided and weakened Europe, the look of satisfaction did not need to be forced. Greece faces a huge debt repayment at month's end but does not have the funds. They shot a Putin sitting there laughing smiling his stone face. No big shitty ingrained. Yeah Yeah, trying to stay stone-faced, you know, he just couldn't keep it off his face. I understand I understand Well, there's something else going on and I can't divulge where this came from but word on the street Deutsche Bank is about to be Lehman they're about to go all they're about to go bust like beat like completely wiped out done and

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Deutsche Bank Insolvency Rumors, Primates of Park Avenue

Rumors circulate regarding the potential collapse of Deutsche Bank, with comparisons being drawn to the 2008 Lehman Brothers failure. The bank faces significant exposure to derivatives and was recently downgraded by S&P to Triple B Plus. The discussion references the book "Primates of Park Avenue," which details the culture of high-level Manhattan bankers and their "wife bonuses."

deutsche bank· lehman brothers· derivatives· primates of park avenue· co-ceos· s&p rating

26:29 put a stick a fork in it. Done. What? Yes, and there are bankers are all rushing to New York and there's meetings and I got this. Okay, I can tell you this. There's a book which I have ordered. I wanted the hard copy and it's called the... Hold on a second. What do anthropologists do? They do... Anthropology. Yeah, no, when they analyze something it's called a... Analysis. Yeah, no, that's not what it is. Hold on, I'll find it. I'll look at my order history. I'm so stupid, I can't remember this. Ah, here it is. It is... Oh, Primates of Park Avenue. Had nothing to do with anthropology. Okay, Primates of Park Avenue. And this is a woman who was in... It's kind of the circle of top 100 bankers.

27:21 and she went to all the parties and hung out with everybody. And, you know, they knew, they thought she was doing an article or something or a blog or a podcast or whatever. But she writes this book and it's absolutely scathing. And it talks about what incredible a-holes these people are. They even have something called the wives bonus. And so these bankers would give their wives a bonus at the end of the year if, you know, the kids were doing well in school and, you know. And so this club of 100 douchebags is freaking out. Well, let's take a look at some articles here. This is not a new situation. It goes back to at least 2012. Will Germans pick up the tab for Deutsche Bank too? In here, June 15, 2013. Deutsche Bank is horribly undercapitalized. It's ridiculous. Yeah, they had to raise all that money. April 2014. Which the co-CEO said they wouldn't do.

28:17 The elephant in the room, Deutsche Bank, 75 trillion derivatives. Deutsche Bank goes under, will it be laymen? This is in 2013. Yeah. Well, this is not a new... Correct. Correct. It's all over the place. You recall that both of the... So even when you have co-CEOs, you know the company's messed up if there are two guys as the CEO. Oh, you've got co-CEOs to give away. Yeah. And so they both resigned. Yeah, right. Yeah. And but you know, so you're going to have it. No, I don't want it. You can have June 9th. S&P lowered the Deutsche Bank's rating to triple B plus, which is low. That's that's even lower than what Lehman had when they were downgraded. Well, Lehman was doing a better job of covering it up. Yeah.

29:06 And what, you know, they put their retail, Deutsche Bank has a huge retail banking arm, and they've put that up for sale, you know, so if they really going to sell it, they won't be able to leverage that. And of course, what you'd want, I think they probably bet on interest rates going up and then have all that free money. And anyway. But when interest rates go down, they get the free money. If it's retail deposits? I thought if you had retail deposits, I don't know, I'm not a banker, I'm a podcaster. Well, it's the free money that gets from the governments, it's not from the retail thing is small potatoes compared to what these guys are up to. Right. Well, maybe, I mean, it's possible, but I think there's been going on for a while, so it could happen at any point. All I'm saying is... A year from now, it could happen two years from now. I'm gonna say within three months, they go belly up.

30:06 I'm gonna put this you wanted the end of yes, I would like it in the book, please I'm there people here. I think I can trust their opinion belly up. Yeah, well, it's like going to the horse track There's plenty of people there telling you but what hasn't happened until now is this you know is The the club of 100 DB's the two sparks with their wife bone it probably the wives are probably convening Oh, what are we gonna do? We're not gonna get our bonus We have to unionize by October 1st. We have to unionize I tell you Have to unionize the union of wives yeah, so we'll keep you keep an eye on that and of course this is the follow-on effects the domino effects of

30:48 of Greece would directly impact them. They had, I believe, Deutsche Bank's huge exposure. Yeah, no, they'd be screwed. Amen. Fist bump. Now let me put my prediction out there. All right. They're going to kick the can down the road on Greece on Monday. Nothing's going to happen. Deutsche Bank's going to be fine through Christmas. And then, so you're saying same result but after Christmas? No, yeah, but not just right after Christmas. It's going to be a waste. They can push this off. You know, they'll learn how to do the soft shoe and the soft, soft shoe. What does that stand for? Isn't that a dancing term? The soft, soft shoe. I'm dancing. I have dancing shoes and they're soft. You have dancing shoes. I sure do. Are they yours? Yes. It's for when I go to the broken spoke for some two stepping.

31:44 The Broken Spoke. Yeah, the Broken Spoke is famous. But you can't, unless you're an incredibly good dancer, you can't, and it's more two-stepping and stuff, it's more country. The name kind of implies that. Unless you're a good dancer, here's a tip for everybody, go into the Broken Spoke in Austin. Don't go. Because here's what'll happen. You can kind of fool around, you know, but it doesn't matter how well your partner Let's just presume it's she's female doesn't matter how well she dances the minute you're like, okay Wow, you want a drink? There'll be like ten guys going. Hey, baby. You want to dance and these guys are good like twirling her around I've thrown her in the air You just look like a dick

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Obama Trade Strategy, TPP Fast-Track Authority, Global Trade Rules

President Obama defends his push for fast-track trade authority, arguing that the United States must write the rules of global trade before China does. Critics highlight the President's repetitive rhetoric, specifically his claim that he "wouldn't be doing it" if it weren't the right thing for American workers. The administration faces significant opposition from within the Democratic party regarding the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

barack obama· tpp· fast-track· global trade· china· congress· trade agreements

32:30 And they're all now see that advice. I wasn't expecting the punchline to it, but now it's just said I said makes nothing but sense and I think that was that was an excellent no agenda tip if you're an Austin tip Do not repeat do not go to the broken spoke with your girl unless you're a good dancer And you can keep to keep it up. You can't take a break. Yeah, and it's like a red flag You know like oh this guy sucks. Hey watch it watch me get this babe Huh? Okay In the midst of all this President Obama is still trying to put the fast-track authority together. It's been voted down and in multiple places It doesn't look like he has the votes in Congress and the Senate and a lot of Democrats voting against this on his podcast today he Let me see. Where's his podcast? Okay on his podcast today

33:26 He rolled out kind of his strategy, didn't really explain it. Luckily, I have a clip of the strategy. First, let's listen to the president's podcast. As always, we start with Kyle, everybody. Hi, everybody. As president, I spend most of my time focused on what we can do to grow the economy and grow new pathways of opportunity for Americans like you to get ahead. And we've made progress. More than 12 million new private sector jobs in the past five years. More than 16 million Americans who've gained health insurance. More jobs creating more clean energy. And by the way, he did say that all he, his, the number one thing he does is making sure we're all good, right? With jobs. That's what he says. Yeah. He wasn't, it was not about keeping us safe, but now it's about keeping us in jobs. Well, he's got different, you know, it depends. Okay. More kids graduating from high school and college than ever before.

34:21 But in a relentlessly changing economy, we've still got more work to do. Well, he says we need more graduating. I don't think he said that. No, no, he says we have more graduating. Oh, really? I thought he said that we need more. I didn't think... Oh, no, no. He says we have more. Hold on. Let me listen. Let me listen to it again. Hold on. Graduating from high school. Health insurance. More jobs creating more clean energy. More kids graduating from high school. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You could also say more people dying from old age. Yeah, right. More divorces. More divorces taking place.

35:07 You know what the number one cause of divorce is, don't you, in America? Split up. Marriage. Ah. And college than ever before. But in a relentlessly changing economy. Relentless. I thought the economy was great. I thought it was fantastic. It's relentlessly changing. We've got more work to do. More work to do. And one of the things we should be doing, for example, is rewriting the rules of global trade to benefit American workers and American businesses. Now, for the president to say this, he's saying, I'd like to rewrite the rules of international trade to benefit us.

35:43 I mean, how can anyone in Europe be thinking, yo, that's great. Let's make it better for you. He doesn't say make it better for the world. No, for us. What kind of a salesman is this guy? This is bad advertising. And that's his only job is to be the sales guy of the United States of Gitmo Nation. The chief sales guy, chief sales executive. Brown shoes. Yeah, they go and sell it. No, no, it's better for us. This is a good deal for us! To benefit American workers and American businesses. Us! But listen, he's pissed. I think we should write those rules before China does. Hey, Chinas, by the way, screw you! It's all for us! That's why I've been working with Congress to pass new 21st century trade agreements with standards that are higher and protections that are tougher than any past trade agreement. No. I believe it's the right thing to do for American workers and families or I wouldn't be doing it. Or I wouldn't be doing it. This is new.

36:43 I believe it's great and I should do it. If it wasn't great, I wouldn't be doing it. He's not saying facts or, you know, not giving any real business reasons other than, you know, and I'm not, is it? Like, okay, we're going to rewrite the rules of international trade. We're going to screw everybody, particularly the Chinese. Hello, Chinese. And, you know, if it wasn't a good thing, I wouldn't be doing it. Hey, I wouldn't be doing it. It's like something you say. What kind of an argument is this? But he's going to do it again. And families, or I wouldn't be doing it. I believe it's what will give us the competitive edge in a new economy or I would not be doing it. What is this a new slogan? Wow. Vote for this. I mean, you're borderline clip of the day again. You know, it's this thing. This is a change of tactics. It's like he's so he's so apparently embattled. He's so criticized or whatever it is. It's got him so, so, so

37:42 skittish that he's saying this twice in a row. Borderline Clip of the Day. Let's listen. More than any past trade agreement, I believe it's the right thing to do for American workers and families or I wouldn't be doing it. I wouldn't be doing it. Look, we're droning people, brown people in sand. It's the right thing to do or I wouldn't be doing it. Don't you understand? I believe it's what will give us the competitive edge in a new economy or I would not be doing it. Again? Three times. Now, several members of Congress disagree. That's why it's still tied up there along with a lot of other good ideas that would create jobs. Oh, yes. And eventually I'm optimistic we'll get this done. Okay. So optimistic he'll get this done. How are we going to get this done? This is Kevin Ziss.

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Kevin Zeese, African Trade Bill, TPP Legislative Maneuvers

Activist Kevin Zeese outlines a four-step legislative strategy intended to pass the Trans-Pacific Partnership by attaching Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) to an African trade bill. This maneuver aims to pressure the Congressional Black Caucus and progressive Democrats into supporting the trade package. Opponents argue that the strategy relies on using humanitarian optics to pass controversial economic policies.

kevin zeese· tpp· taa· african trade bill· congressional black caucus· legislation

38:39 Z double E Z double E S E and he is an anti TPP Fast-track activist and I think I have his let me see I have as well look up his wiki page. Yeah I got it here Zed echo echo Sierra echo Yeah, and he's actually I think it's a weed guy isn't he let me say weed yeah, I think he's a weed guy Yeah He began his advocacy career as chief counsel for the National Organization of the Reform of Marijuana Laws normal and he was the executive director between 83 and 86 and did very important things like help stop the spraying of herbicides of marijuana in Mexico and

39:24 I didn't know they were doing that. Yeah. Screw that. Yeah, no, that's our DEA. Where's Monsanto with the Roundup ready? Okay, so he writes for Counterpunch, USA Today, he was spokeshole for Ralph Nader's 2004 presidential campaign. Doesn't matter. He is on to how this thing is going to pass or at least what the strategy is. It may be more difficult to pass. The idea is to take this trade agreement and slip it into something else. That's how things are done. That's never been done before. Right. Do you know what it's being slipped into though? Probably some children's thing. Almost. It's a four-step process. The first step was on Thursday where they voted to pass trade promotion authority or fast track in the House.

40:08 That will then go to the Senate. Senate will consider trade promotion authority as a stand-alone bill. And then trade adjustment assistance, which we won the landslide victory on, they are going to attach to an African trade bill. So they hope to be able to convince the Congressional Black Caucus and progressive Democrats that we need to help Africa. And therefore, if TAA is attached to it, there's a better chance of passing. So what they're going to do is in the Senate have an amendment to that bill. and include TAA in that bill. When it gets back to the House, the House will get a chance again to vote on TAA, because they would vote it down. So they're going to have to vote on the African Trade Agreement, and that's a much tougher vote. See, that's the four steps. Two votes on TPA, two votes on TAA. If we stop one of those votes, we win. They have to win all four in order to get this passed. So the African Trade Bill. Yeah, who's going to be against Africa?

41:00 Yeah, I think we'll get the Africans. I'd say be on the lookout for lots of videos of you know emaciated kids with pot bellies and flies sticking on their face. That's what you do if you want to push something like that through. It's the right thing to do. I wouldn't be doing it. Otherwise I would not be doing it. Is it as a defense in court? Otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. It was the right thing to do at the time. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. That's what Zimmerman should have done. It was the right thing to do to kill Trayvon Martin, otherwise I wouldn't have done it. Alright. That's the international news for you. That's the international. Well, we have the... let's stay international. I've got an Iran update to keep people apprised of what's going on with these bullcrap negotiations. And this guy, this guy, the head of energy, Department of Energy, have you seen this character? Yeah, with the funky hair? With the hair? I like that guy.

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Ernest Moniz, Nuclear Physics, Mouffant Hairdo Concept

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz is criticized for his distinctive, old-fashioned hairstyle, which the hosts compare to the Quaker Oats man and George Washington. This leads to a conceptual discussion about a new male hairstyle called the "mouffant"—a combination of a mullet and a bouffant. The hosts joke about the confidence required to maintain such a look in a high-level government position.

ernest moniz· department of energy· nuclear physics· hairdo· mouffant· quaker oats

42:01 I like it. I think he's a... well, something about that hair. What's his name? Ben Franklin or he's like the guy on the oatmeal box or he looks like George Bush's mom. I mean, he's just a... what is with the hair? Let me see. What is his name? Hold on here. It's... you know, I kind of like the hair. What you would because you like hair but come on let's be realistic about this haircut money money older Male adult well allow me to read you a little bit his name is Ernest J. Moniz Yeah, what is money is money is money as I said one is

42:39 Let's see, he's a most respected nuclear physicist. Yeah, which makes sense that he'd be in the Department of Energy. And he looks like, ha ha ha, nuclear energy, ha ha. Maybe that's why they chose him. He looks nuts. Let's put the crazy fuck in charge of nuclear. Now if you're going to like that kind of hair on a man, which is not even a modern female cut. It is an old-fashioned hairdo. It's a do. It is indeed a do. It's kind of a comb over from really low. And it's gray. And it could be a wig for all we know. What what is wrong now? This is what I'm expecting. I want to see this I want to see some gutsy guy like this It takes a lot of nerve to do this a lot of guts ideas. I'll give him that Quaker Oats That's what he looks like the Quaker Oats guy. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah. I knew you were thinking it But he is the he's a crazy Quaker Oats guy. Well, he had one of those dumb Puritan hats on it would oh Top it album art on the way. Yeah It's already

43:40 Nick the rat and Martin JJ off to the races and How about this? So here's the L of mark. How about if the guy can do that guys got the ponytails? There's all these different male hair. He's with long long hair and man bun how about a big bouffant on a guy Straight up. Now when you say bouffant, are you talking about like the French... The French in the 60s where the hair goes straight up. Marge Simpson. Goes straight up. And it's all wrapped around it. Straight up. It's like Casey Kasem's wife. That kind of hair. That's what I'm talking about.

44:22 Why where's the where's the guy with the guts to do that? Well, I might consider it. I'm gonna see what we have. I'll give you a hundred bucks if you do it. I don't see oh, well, it's yeah The bouffant is kind of it has to be silvery white and then it's in isn't it with curls is bouffant for men No, no, I didn't it doesn't have to be white either. It's Blonde could be anything bouffant bouffant. That would look good with my sash Buffon hairdo. He doesn't have enough hair to do the Buffon. He's got, are you kidding me? This guy is loaded with hair. No, he's folding it over. Here's one Buffon that does look a little like, what's the name of the singer Rod Stewart. Welcome to This Week in Buffon.

45:09 But here's the one I'm thinking of. That singer Rod Stewart. What's that singer? What's that young man's name? That singer? Rod Stewart guy. That guy. Maggie May man. Yeah. If it's done right, it would be a combination bouffant mullet. And you'd have something. A bouffalot. A bouffalot. Or no, a mouffant. There you go. Now we've got a word. A mouffant. What is that hair do you? It's a mouffant, man. It's the latest in fashion. Mouffant. Mouffant. Yeah, it's a good one. Hey, Mufon, are you looking at where was I if it exists? John's registering domain names. Mufant, a mofo Mufant. Right. Iran play. Yeah, we have the update. Let's see what's going on. The energy guys there. They're trying to get this deal done. This clip starts off with the grand mula mula telling him that you guys aren't coming over. You're not looking at nothing. And the other guy said, oh, we got a deal. Double negative, John, not looking at nothing, not looking at nothing.

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Iran Nuclear Negotiations, June 30 Deadline, Hassan Rouhani

Iran's Supreme Leader and President Hassan Rouhani express resistance to foreign inspections of military sites and interviews with nuclear scientists as the June 30 deadline approaches. Secretary Ernest Moniz remains involved in technical meetings to ensure the program remains peaceful. The hosts express skepticism regarding the likelihood of a final agreement given the "incessant new demands" cited by Iranian leadership.

iran· nuclear deal· hassan rouhani· ernest moniz· p5+1· inspections· john kerry

46:04 sites or interviews with its nuclear scientists, beginning with the supreme leader. We have said that we will not allow any inspection of military centers by any foreigners to take place. They say we should let them interview our nuclear scientists. I will not allow this. Last Saturday, Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, who is subordinate to the Supreme Leader, said the negotiating process runs the risk of falling apart. If the other side can honor the previously reached framework instead of incessantly posing new demands, I think we can achieve a deal. But if the negotiation is turned into an endless bargaining, this will be very likely to postpone the negotiation progress.

46:53 The American point man on the nuclear science involved is Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz. It could be called the Moniz-Mouffant. The guy could have a whole franchise. He's a trained physicist who's been deeply involved in the negotiations process as it hurdles toward the June 30th deadline. I spoke with him yesterday. Secretary Moniz, thank you for joining us. So we know about this June 30th deadline that we're now building up to. Is it a real deadline? Well, we certainly want to meet June 30th. We have lots of reasons to do so, including, of course, our subsequent interactions with the Congress, reporting to them. So we're pushing hard. We've had six technical meetings since June 30th.

47:37 Since Lausanne, we've had several political-level meetings. Secretary Kerry and I were in Geneva a couple weeks ago, just prior to his unfortunate bike accident. And we expect that we'll be back soon to try to finish the deal. But what's the deal? Is it a deal to get a deal, or is it a deal to actually button this whole thing up? Oh, no, we are aiming to complete the deal. to see to it that we and our partners, the P5 plus one, will have a deal where we will have confidence that Iran's program is peaceful. We will have the ability to determine quickly if it is not. Yeah. You notice this cadence of confidence. It's that same cadence that everybody in the White House milieu has. They start picking it up after hanging out there for a while. Did we have... This is not happening.

48:29 I think the other guy, the guy in the middle, the middle man over there, the Iranian president, the guy that's not the grand mullah but the second in command, he says, incessantly posing new demands. He says, well, we're doing it. We get a deal and they say, well, let's add this to it. This is being queered by us. Yes. And all he needs to say is, we wouldn't ask for this deal if it wasn't good. Because I say so. We'll have to... I'll ask atomic Rod Adams, Sir Rod Adams, what he thinks of this guy. He'll let us know. Oh yeah. He's probably a brilliant physicist. He's probably... I'm sure he's no dummy. But usually scientists and negotiation doesn't go together so well. No. You know. No. But interesting fellow. I'd have a beer with this guy. Or some tea. He looks like a tea totaler. He is. He used to drink tea.

49:30 I did. We did the show from London, you were a big tea drinker. I was. We talked about PG tips versus, you know, red labels, all the British different types of British teas you can get. The Irish tea, Lifeboat from, you know, Scotland tea. I lost my way. You did. Man oh lord! I lost my way. No, I'm back to coffee. I like it. Well, that's Dutch the Dutch drink coffee. The Dutch drink tea in the morning. They drink coffee. What are you drinking coffee then? I'm not Dutch. I drink both. I decided I like my tea bags differently. I drink my, uh, I drink tea most of the time. And on show days, usually I, except today is not the case, but on show days, I like to have a croissant and coffee. Yes. And you drink that standing up.

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Middle East Nuclear Arms Race, Saudi-Russia Agreement

Saudi Arabia and Russia signed an agreement in St. Petersburg to build up to 16 nuclear reactors under Russian supervision. This move is interpreted as a response to the potential nuclear deal with Iran, with Saudi officials indicating they will pursue nuclear weapons if Tehran does. The hosts suggest this could lead to a broader arms race and regional instability that benefits global arms manufacturers.

saudi arabia· russia· nuclear reactors· vladimir putin· iran· arms race· st. petersburg

50:22 Okay at the at the at the croissant coffee bar. Yeah in downstairs croissant bar. Mm-hmm all right onward So this deal is not going to happen. Deutsche Bank, this is today's show wrap. Let's we're going to summary of today's show. Skin care products are crap. The banks are going to collapse. The crap, they're not crap. They're crap. Skin care products are crap. The banks are going to collapse. Starting with Deutsche Bank is going to bring down the world economy. I didn't say that, but yes. No, no, that's what I said. I'm saying that because that's the extrapolation. If Deutsche Bank goes, everything goes. I agree.

50:58 And now we have nukes in the Middle East. What could be a better formula for just... And check this out. Just revisit your strategy for a moment about the nukes in the Middle East. Your analysis, your... Prognostication. Prognostication of compendium. Yes. Well, you may restate it. Yes, please restate it. Yes. Yes. I believe that what's going to happen is that this was based on some clips that we had some time ago where somebody suggested this might be what's going on. We want the Iranians to ramp up and develop a nuke and set one off. It's just a test or even bomb something.

51:44 and that will start a new arms race in the Middle East and that will give our arms companies lots of... we'll be selling a lot more stuff to Saudi Arabia and Lebanon and... Jordan's gonna have to buy a bunch of things and probably the Israelis will grab some more stuff. We have to drop some things into the Iraqi arena and everybody around there's all gonna be buying, buying, buying. And then maybe if the plan goes to, you know, everyone gets so amped up, you get some nut ball, he's exchanged a nuke, goes over here, one goes over there, the whole place gets rubbilized, eventually

52:21 toxically poisoning, this is a long story, toxically poisoning all the oil, making it impossible to use because it would be radioactive and couldn't be taken out of the ground, let alone burnt in a car, turning an America that's now been refocused on renewable energies, namely solar and wind, to be in the catbird seat at the end of the day. With gas being the underlying commodity. And a lot of natural gas. I'm talkin' about globalization, shake it away

53:00 Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to robilize! And the following report adds to your thesis. Saudi Arabia is reportedly planning to build up to 16 nuclear reactors under Russia's supervision. Saudi media say Russian President Vladimir Putin and Saudi Arabian Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman signed an agreement in St. Petersburg on Friday. The details of the bilateral nuclear treaty have not been made public. The kingdom has stepped up efforts to develop nuclear capabilities. Some Saudi officials have voiced concern over a possible final nuclear deal between Iran and the P5 plus one. They say Riyadh will go after nuclear weapons if Tehran and the P5 plus one sign an agreement. Yeah. So there we go. Russia's in on the game. Oh yeah. Rocking it in. And I believe this, the new WikiLeaks archive, I don't know if you had a chance to check it out. Not, not late. Yeah. So they had big teases going on, on, on, I was going to go, I didn't see the promise. If I go there, I'm going to the new Sony stuff.

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

WikiLeaks Saudi Cables, Unpaid Limo Bills, Bin Laden Death Certificate

WikiLeaks released a massive archive of secret Saudi diplomatic files, revealing a $1.5 billion unpaid limousine bill and internal discussions regarding the lack of a death certificate for Osama bin Laden. The documents provide insight into the kingdom's administrative operations and diplomatic priorities. The hosts discuss the logistical scale of the Saudi royal family's travel expenses.

wikileaks· saudi arabia· diplomatic cables· osama bin laden· limo bills· julian assange

53:59 Yeah, I know. It was hard, but, um, uh, WikiLeaks has exposed what they call reams! reams of secret Saudi diplomatic files. Oh nice. And this is yeah, you know, there's weird things like, let me see, whenever this happens when you have this archive then immediately people just jump in, mainstream media primarily jump in to try and pull out the crazy crap they can get some virality with so people will be talking about, oh let me see, They had high limo bills they never paid. Okay. 60,000 documents and CBC of Canada, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation comes up with, they didn't pay their limo bill. Bad Saudis. But there's also a lot of other things. So the seed man, he came up with a story, he found something that there's no death certificate for bin Laden.

54:57 All these kinds of things. Let's bring the coroner in. Yeah, I don't know. There's 50 or 60 thousand. Somebody's not doing the paperwork correctly. Yeah. But you know how big that limo bill was? 1.5 billion dollars. That's a lot of limo. Wow. Yeah, that's a lot of limo. That's a lot of limo. I don't like limos. Limos are lame. Town cars, man. I've never liked limos. No, they're dangerous. When I travel, if I go to do something and people offer me a limo, I say no, I'll take the money and put it toward a rental car. I like to drive around. Stop, take some pictures. Yeah, whenever you stop, everyone's looking at you. You stop with the limo guy, he gets all irked. Unless there's five babes in bikinis rolling out. Yeah, that doesn't happen. No, it doesn't.

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Tommy Chong Cancer Diagnosis, ABC News Coverage

Actor and comedian Tommy Chong is battling rectal cancer, his second cancer diagnosis since 2012. The hosts criticize ABC News for identifying the counter-culture legend primarily as a "Dancing with the Stars alum" rather than for his work with Cheech and Chong. Chong has publicly stated he will use marijuana as part of his treatment regimen.

tommy chong· rectal cancer· dancing with the stars· marijuana· abc news· cheech and chong

55:50 All right. Yeah, that would be the exception. Bad news, bad news, cultural news, bad news. I might as well call this real news. Let me see. Do we have real news? And now, back to Real News. One of our producers sent in a picture. I guess one of his family members is in the same hospital. He had a different conclusion or a different report, but here's the mainstream report. Tommy Chong is battling cancer for the second time. The comic and Dancing with the Stars alum reveals he's in tr- Wow, I can't believe that Tommy Chong has now been relegated to Dancing with the Stars. That's his claim to fame.

56:30 That's sad. Is that the way they refer? Play that again. Yeah, hold on a second. Yeah, it's sad. Where did it go? Here we go. And they're gonna joke about something too. So let me tell you up front, our producer sent in a picture, you know, there's Tommy, Tommy's in his hospital bed. He looks dead. And my producer said they don't expect him to live, you know, for only maybe three or four days. The guy's almost dead and this is your mainstream report. You know, Cheech and Chong, man. Like Dave's not here, like up in smoke. This... these guys are legends. No, no. Dancing with the Stars alum. Tommy Chong is battling cancer for the second time. The comic and Dancing with the Stars alum reveals he's in treatment for... Comic. The comic and Dancing with the Stars alum.

57:12 Wow. Rectal cancer. Chong was previously diagnosed with prostate cancer. That was back in 2012. After revealing this latest setback, he tweeted, the good news is I now have more to, I, the good news is I now have to use more marijuana to treat the cancer. I want to make sure I got that right. At least he hasn't lost his sense of humor there. Fuck you. That's horrible. Where was that? I think today, the Today Show? No, no hold on I can look it up in in the clips. I'll tell you where it was Tommy Chung Tommy Chong Tommy Chong not Connie Chung Tommy Chong Here it is it is for ABC ABC that was

58:00 I guess Good Morning America. That's the celebrity, yeah, because they do Dancing with the Stars. Oh, of course. So whoever it was to be like, hey, the guy is dying, can we use it to plug Dancing with the Stars? Watch Dancing with the Stars is dying. It's horrible. And it's ass cancer, which is, damn, man. That's the worst. I don't know if it's the worst, but what a way to go. It's bad. I feel bad. Especially like, well, at least you can smoke more weed. I got railroaded and in prison. That's the real tragedy here. That happened to him and nobody bitched about it. No, they didn't say Dancing with the Stars alum then, did they? Maybe it wasn't on then. Well, while we're on the topic, let's go to this clip. This is a very interesting situation. They're trying to legalize marijuana in Ohio and they've got a new technique they developed, these guys, a bunch of investors.

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Ohio Marijuana Legalization, Investor Monopoly, Oscar Robertson

A group of wealthy investors, including basketball legend Oscar Robertson and real estate developers, have authored a marijuana legalization bill in Ohio that grants them exclusive rights to cultivation. The legislation designates specific plots of land owned by the investors as the only legal growing sites in the state. Local farmers have criticized the bill for centralizing economic opportunity and creating "instant billionaires" through legislation.

ohio· marijuana legalization· monopoly· oscar robertson· venture capital· legislation

58:55 Wait, wait, I'm going to give you the setup because it's not perfectly clear, but they're going to start talking to people about it. What these guys, a bunch of guys like these, the Yale guys, the Yalies, the brothers. I don't know that. But there's a bunch of high, you know, a guy who owns a chain of restaurants, some ex basketball player. It's a group of them. And they created a little fund. an investment fund that they all put money into, and they wrote the law that is going to be voted on in Ohio, and within the wording, they give themselves monopoly

59:38 places to grow marijuana. Nobody else in the state of Ohio will be able to grow marijuana except these guys. That's how it's going to get passed. Obviously if the citizens pass it, they're okay with it. But if the citizens pass it, the citizens aren't going to have an opportunity to make money off it like the investors are. It's going to be a huge opportunity. Anyone can open up retail. Anyone can open up a facility that does marijuana infused products. But they can't grow. Every industry is limited. And that has at least one farmer lit up. We take pride in the quality of our product. Hey, I got a great script here. We'll put it in, we'll put it lit up. Get it, get it, get it. We take pride in the quality of our product. Katie Aukerman gave us a tour of her boss's sustainable aquaponics farm on the outskirts of Columbus. Aukerman says she and her boss are constantly innovating and cannabis would be a perfect crop to try.

1:00:32 But the more I looked into it, the more that I realized the economic opportunity was going to be centralized and limited to a small group of people. And as a farmer, I'm seeing that it's excluding all of the farmers in Ohio pretty much. Ockerman says she can't possibly afford to be an investor. These douchebags one of them is on there and he's bragging about he says yeah my he's showing a plot of lands like 40 acres that is specific in the law as a place where they can grow that he owns and The woman says well, so if I offer you a hundred million dollars for the to the this property right next is now It's worth a billion. It's like instant billionaires through legislation. This is a I'd like I'd like to know who these guys are

1:01:18 Well, you could look at it, it's on the net. I mean, these guys, this is not new. There's some controversy, there's a second bill that they're trying to pass against it. But these guys have all the money, so they're going to promote it. And they talk to people on the street, nobody knows that this is in there. Really? Those guys sound like that? But, on the one hand, where you say these guys are a bunch of douchebags, on the other hand, you say, oh, this is going to ruin the whole initiative process because this is what everyone should be doing. You want to pass something for the good of the people? You put a bunch of stuff in the bill or in the legislation, as it's going to be written, that benefits you.

1:02:01 Well, isn't that how you're supposed to run things? Well, that's not the way you're supposed to, but I think this is a great idea. So investors are Oscar, the big O. Robertson. Yeah, Oscar Robertson. Basketball Hall of Famer. Frosty Rucker. Defense event for the Arizona Cardinals. These must be big, huge potheads, these guys. Hey, I got an idea. Nanette Lepore, fashion designer. Rick Kirk, a real estate developer, of course. Frank Wood, CEO of Secret Communications, a radio company turned venture capital firm. Maybe he was one of those, maybe it was the Wood brothers. Barbara Gold, philanthropist. Sir Alan Mooney, and he's a member of the Ohio Council of Churches, investor board member. William Foster and William Chaney Pruitt,

1:02:55 And he's a DMP Investments, John Humphrey, also a DMP Investments, must be the big guy, the big guys in this. Specialized in providing products and consultative services in the area of consumer finance. Yeah, the venture guys. And Bobby George, a real estate developer. That's a great name. Hey everybody, Bobby George here. Bobby George is gonna invest in this. You know why? Because I wouldn't do it if it wasn't the right thing to do. I'm Bobby George. I'm Bobby George. Well, keep an eye on that. See if we can get in on that action. Yeah, apparently you can. That's the idea. With that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Cannabis, Duborak. I think it stands for Cannabis once before. Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, if there are any subs in the water at the moment, and all the dames and knights out there.

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Hissy Fit Etymology, Adult Tantrums, Language Evolution

The hosts explore the origins and usage of the term "hissy fit," noting its first recorded appearance around 1934. They debate the redundancy of the word "fit" and suggest that "hissy" alone should suffice to describe an adult tantrum. The discussion highlights how the term has evolved from regional slang to a common descriptor for outbursts of temper.

hissy fit· etymology· slang· tantrum· language· 1934

1:03:53 In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagenestream.com, thank you for helping me out with some sound issues this morning. I almost went into one of my hissy fits and exited the chat room, but they're now helpful. No hissy fit today? No, no hissy fit today. And in the morning to our artists who are always... What is it called a hissy fit? I don't know. We could look it up, I guess. I think we better look it up. No one's ever mentioned why it's called a hissy fit. This is why we are the best podcast in the universe. Hissy fit, chiefly a fit of temper, angry outbursts. Wait, hold on a second. Look at the etymology. Hold on, 1934. Here we go. Wait, before you go in that direction, I want you to do that. But first I want to bring up this little point. Hissy, it means angry outburst or tantrum. So a hissy fit would be

1:04:52 Okay, well, it just seemed redundant. Yeah, it's a fit of hissy. Yeah. And it went to 1924? I see 1934. Hissy fit the adult tantrum. He threw a hissy or had a hissy? He had a hissy. Which would be right, because it means an angry outburst or tantrum. Right. The fit part just seems like it's not necessary. It's a waste of energy. Let's just have a hissy. Yeah. We're going to, yeah. We should put this on change.org and ask people to change from hissy fit to hissy.

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Stephen Myers Knighting, LEED Certification Scam

The hosts showcase listener-submitted artwork and perform a knighting ceremony for Stephen Myers, an architect from Austin who donated $1,000. This leads to a critical discussion of LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certification. The hosts characterize the green building certification as a "scam" or "rabbit hole" involving heavy subsidies and bureaucratic rubber-stamping.

sarcastquatch· stephen myers· knighting· leed certification· green building· architecture

1:05:30 And then the images for hissy are all kids having a fit, which doesn't make sense because the definition specifically refers to adults. Okay, I want to thank Sarsquatch, Sarkasquatch, I'm sorry, who brought us the artwork for episode 731. This was the culture vulture episode and you know some of these artists even though it's it it looks simplistic, I really liked the the White House which he he created a new image Pretty much eight colors, but the White House and there's a sign across the White House says under new management and then behind the White House is this huge tower and with a sign called saying... Was that done by Sasquatch? The Trump House. Yeah, I believe so. No, Sarcastquatch. Sarcast... Alright, Sarcastic Squatch. Yeah, Sarcastquatch.

1:06:20 And we appreciate all the work our artists do. Go to noagendaartgenerator.com and have a look or submit something. Even if it's not used as album art, we use it for newsletters and to look cool around town. Hey man, look what my people do. Let's thank some people, John. Sometimes we get more art than other times. I always wonder why. Well, I want to thank a few people myself and I think Adam would join in with us thanking Stephen Myers who came in as an instant knight, kind of, with 999.99 and he needs a penny. There it is. Now he's in. A thousand dollars from Austin, Texas. Hey, hey. You know this guy? I don't think so. Stephen Myers. Well, we should. Yeah. You should know him. He's right in Austin. You should know everyone who lives there. Dear Crack P and Buzz K over long due.

1:07:15 This is your big for keeping me alive during a challenging ordeal recently I can't say it's over or I've won but I did get some karma dough that I had to share I do not need anything more from you guys and you've already given me John your brilliance coupled with childish curiosity as in hissy fit Curiosity astounds me and gives me hope. Can I get a penny? You just got one. I almost forgot my June 20th is my birthday. Is he on the list? Oh, of course I know Steve. I know exactly who this is. Yes. Yes. He's an architect. Oh, he's Steve the architect. Happy to be heard in both nighting and birthday segments. I'm a father too, but is he on the list for birthday? I believe so. But I haven't been able to hit her in the mouth.

1:08:06 P.S. This is Steve the architect in Austin. Adam, not that company anymore. Yeah, he was at a different company. Much has happened since I saw you last. We'd love to get together for lunch. Which you're now obligated to since it's night. Yeah, of course. We break for nights. We break for nights. New offices and he's got some page there. There's a bio and blah blah blah. Thanks, John and Adam. Okay? Good. Oh, how nice. I'm gonna give him some karma. This will be future lunch karma. We're gonna have some lunch together, Steve. You've got karma. That's nice. I'm glad he was... I think he was kind of freelancing. Freelance architecture, I think, is difficult. Not with a big firm. Oh, and he's LEED certified. Hey, hey. You know LEED. LEED? L-E-D-E? L-E-E-D.

1:08:53 L-E-E-D? Yeah, that's a bull crap where you build a garden on the roof and then you have a restaurant in the building and you can eat. That's all I've said. You can eat the roof. Old in the walls, mushrooms growing everywhere. We need to look into that again because this lead certification thing is such well I'll talk to I'll have lunch with him and I'll get the lowdown. It's a story. It's for building green Yes, Billy's days if you don't have a lead certification, you can't get work Everybody wants to have a lead certification on their building. I'm sure there's no doubt. There's all kinds of subsidies and things. Oh, yeah I'm gonna have to oh, this is a rabbit hole

1:09:37 I want to go at the U.S. Green Building Council. So we have an anonymous coming in who's actually gave us two donations for some reason. I'm sorry, I just lead. It's an acronym. Ready? Okay. Leadership in Energy Environmental Design. What kind of a certification is that? Your leadership in energy and environmental design. There's a lead digital marketing brochure. Yeah, the guy making the money is the guy who came up with the idea. I think... And here's your rubber stamp. I believe, I'm gonna tell you now, that I think... Go ahead with the next donation. I'm gonna look at search.nashownotes.com. I believe someone uncovered that lead scam for us a long time ago.

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Listener Donations, Furries on Cheaters, Selective Eating Disorder

A series of listener donations include a story about a "Cheaters" episode featuring people in cat costumes and a testimonial about using "selective eating disorder" as an excuse to avoid unwanted food. Another donor requests "WTC7 karma," leading to a discussion of the 9/11 building collapse. The segment highlights the diverse and often humorous contributions from the "No Agenda" producer community.

furries· cheaters tv show· selective eating disorder· wtc7· listener feedback

1:10:21 I wouldn't be surprised. All right, you go ahead. All right, here we go. Mr. Anonymous, who came in with two donations, a totaling first of five, six, seven, eight, nine, which is one of my favorites, and then 100. So we give him credit for six, seven, eight, nine, nice or six, five, six, six, seven. I forget it. He's got a lot of dough in there in the morning. This show is in these little lengthy note, but it's worth reading because it's him. Whoever he is. Yeah, the show is good to the extreme as always I try to stay away from most other other media minus no agenda books documentaries and Said cetera cheaters TV show by the way. I don't know what this is kind of running together. Okay here he goes Oh, he's a little disconcerted this come boobie later with his note by the way furries do have sex in their suits Oh, I saw it on cheaters. My memory is not the best at times, but you don't forget crying

1:11:15 Laughing watching human cats have sex the cheaters crew busts in as a group of them straight pack of people in cat costumes doing sex stuff. One was doggy style which is why I remember I believe all or almost all of them had their masks on look like they were in a hotel convention center whatever. Maybe I'm remembering this all wrong, but it's almost too delicious to believe. I wish I could find it on YouTube. NASA lately to Jingles Wonderful 2 needed all jingle show again. That was great. Hugs, hugs, kisses. What would I do without No Agenda? Fuck, not be good. Please make this my last donation of 56789 or something anonymous, please. No name or location. I was with the note about the

1:11:58 furries. I was going to email and ask, well I went to John's email address and stumbled upon his LinkedIn page. That picture is great. You guys are fucking hilarious. True comedy show. Come to the news but stay for the comedy. Not really. The animal meat of the show is Outstanding to an extreme. Stuff that was always entertaining too, as all the other minor flubs. Thanks for the sanity, laughs, book documentary recommendations, over the years priceless too. Learn more with you guys than college. Captured the essence of yeah, I think you did Did he want it he just wants some jingles to something good well he wants to jingle the show he wants that clip oh That's coming Maybe I don't know

1:12:49 It's almost too delicious to believe my friend you've got karma. I know what I can do. That was a generous donation. That's very nice. Sean Reiser in Woodside, New York 34567 I think Sean's been in before. He might be a knight. Yeah, I think he's Sir Sean. I think so. Quick thank you for all the hard work you guys do. Thanks to you, I know about selective eating disorder. I'm no longer a picky eater. When someone offers me food that I don't care for, I say, sorry, I'd love some, but I have a condition. Thank you. I like that. Sorry, I'd love some, but I have a condition.

1:13:37 And leave a fee- Can I have some WTC7 bomb them boom shaka laka karma? Okay, WTC7 bomb them boom shaka laka karma. I think I can give you that. Yeah. WTC7 won't go away! We need to kill them. We need to kill them. Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again. Dingo boom boom chugga lagga lagga boom boom boom boom chugga lagga boom boom. Hey man, fist bump. You've got karma. Tight!

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

De-Douching Ceremony, Gary Kimball, B Cave Barbecue

The hosts perform a "de-douching" ceremony for a long-time listener who had never previously donated. They also acknowledge donations from Gary Kimball and Armando Guerra, a former mail carrier. The conversation includes a recommendation for the B Cave Barbecue in Texas, specifically praising their brisket as the best in the state.

de-douching· gary kimball· b cave· barbecue· brisket· flower mound

1:14:21 Can you make a note to play the long version of the boom shot of the bomb them bomb them again clip and show clip? Yeah, I'm gonna do right now. That's just a great great. Yeah, that's a ray a Sean Reiser and woo, I'm sorry with Sean already in Woodside, New York, okay Riley Kimball in San Tan Valley San Tan Valley, Arizona two three four five six and Gary Kimball, a retired lumberjack and professional bass fisherman accounting. He's up to five, six, seven, eight, nine, more than half my weight in knighthood. Leslie Cook comes in with the same amount, two, three, four, five, six in Danbury, Connecticut. Just sending my cash. I had to douchebag check myself. I've got to be the biggest D-bag listener you have. I've been listening since the Pipeline episodes and have never donated.

1:15:16 If you can see it in your hearts, please de-douche me. I'll do that right now. It's not too much trouble. Hold on. It's not a lot of trouble. You've been de-douched. Okay, de-douched. I would like all-purpose karma and a resist-we-much. Resist-we-much. Okay, let's start with this though. Douchebag check! No, douchebag check! But resist, we much. We must and we will much about that. Be committed. You've got karma. And she says keep up the stellar analysis. We try, we try. Pretty much all you just do is look at everything upside down and you've got your answer. Armando Guerra. My mail carrier, my former mail carrier. Your buddy, he's in B, I didn't know he was in B cave. He's in B cave Texas, yeah. Go out to the B cave road. B cave road. The B cave barbecue, which is a big giant barbecue.

1:16:17 and get the brisket. It's the best in Texas. $200. Happy Father's Day, John and Adam. Wish me some karma for Las Vegas next. Oh, $100 on 22. You've got karma. Put it all on 33. That concludes our broadcast day. Executive producers and associate executive producers for show, Oh, I don't know. What's the number? 732? 732. And we want to remind people we do have another show coming up next Thursday. We do. And that would mean the best bet is to go to noagenda.com, noagenda, not, to dvorak.org. Yeah, yeah. dvorak.org slash NA and help us out continuing our pursuit of the truth. And these are real credits.

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Father's Day Reflections, Christina Curry's Note, Ayn Rand

The hosts exchange Father's Day greetings and share a public message posted by Christina Curry to her father on Instagram. The note expresses gratitude for being taught that being "special" is better than being "normal." The discussion takes a cynical turn as the hosts question the romanticized idea of living in a car to follow one's dreams, referencing "Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand."

father's day· christina curry· instagram· ayn rand· mac and cheese· dreams

1:17:09 Just like Hollywood, that's why we call them executive producers and associate executive producers. To find out more about our program and what you can receive for your support of the NO Agenda show, which does not include a tote bag or a mug, go to... And of course, we all need you out there doing the work every single day of propagating the formula. Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth. Squirrels! And I am remiss, I have not wished you a happy Father's Day, John. Happy Father's Day to you, Adam Curry. Happy Father's Day to you, John C. de Boer. Did you receive anything from any of your children's? I got a hello, happy Father's Day.

1:18:03 Uh, uh, skywriting, oh email, really? And it was only in the subject, right? Message contains no content, was that how it came in? That would be best, yeah, that's the way to do it. You know, Christina posted something really nice. You wanna hear it? Sure. On the Facebooks. Uh, it has a great picture of her, I guess she looks about 11 there. Maybe on the Facebooks, why don't you just send it to you, uh, personally? Well, because it's a, it's a public, uh, showing of affection. She put it on Instagram and it automatically post through to the other kids are posting on Instagram John this way I Keep up on their luck. This is what you hear. Oh, I keep up with him by following his Instagram. Which is pictures. There's just pictures Anyway, you ready for it. It's really beautiful to the greatest what what I'm gonna read her note No, I said you said ready for it. You didn't let me respond. Okay. Are you ready for it? Oh

1:18:56 Yes. To the greatest man I know, thank you for always reminding me that I am not weird, but special. I am not incurably and infinitely sad, just smart and therefore have the capacity to feel more. You once said you'd rather live your life out of a car and have nothing while still following your dreams than live an empty life with all the money in the world. Thank you for being you and being my dad. Aww. That's sweet. Can I ask a question now? It was sweet. Now John is going to ruin it. Go. What is this dream of yours that you'd live in a car for? No, that is not the dream. I would be living my dreams, but well, my dream almost came true. We're very close. You have to live in a car for this dream?

1:19:52 You get the idea. I'm just wondering why you would sacrifice your life and live in a car to follow your dreams. For one thing, you gotta get gas for the car or you weren't following anything. No, you don't have to do that. You're just gonna live it? Okay. Well, you're more stalled than I am. I don't even know what that means actually. Well, I'm more concerned about this. Wait, wait, wait. This is the finish of the show. No, that's not a segway. I'll end that segment with your downer on the lovely note my daughter sent to me. Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. There you go. Living the Mac and Cheese life, I think is what she means. So I got a bunch of people sent me this thing. Buzzkill. The sixth mass extinction on Earth. Yeah, I got this too. I like it.

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Sixth Mass Extinction, Paul Ehrlich, Frank Fenner

A new study led by Paul Ehrlich of the Stanford Woods Institute claims the Earth has entered its sixth mass extinction event, which could threaten human existence. The hosts compare this to the predictions of the late Australian scientist Frank Fenner, who claimed humans would be extinct within 100 years. They express skepticism toward these "doomsday" narratives, linking them to long-standing overpopulation theories from the 1970s.

mass extinction· paul ehrlich· frank fenner· climate change· overpopulation· stanford

1:20:42 This is that guy Paul Ehrlich again. Wait a minute, who is he? He's the guy who was in the 70s wrote the population bomb. Oh, he's back with now he's saying, oh no. Yeah, same guy. No. Yeah, that Stanford professor. All he has is do money grubber. What is the, what is the full, cause I saw it come in and say I saw two different. Yeah. I'll just read the subhead. The sixth mass extinction on Earth has officially begun and could threaten humanity's existence. Scientists warn. What scientists? Well, I have the scientists I have is an eminent Australian scientist, Professor Frank Fenner.

1:21:31 And he says humans will be extinct in 100 years. So I believe this is from the... I believe this is from the... Yellowstone blows up, maybe. He says climate change is only at its beginning and that is likely to be the cause of our extinction. Well, yay! Okay, let's look this jerk up. Yeah, you look it up and I'll just should really rethink their choices in life So first they were all in a population explosion and now we're now the population is gonna die because of climate change Or is this two different stories that don't coincide? They're kind of coincident. I think there he is. He wears red sweaters Does he have a move on he doesn't have enough hair? Okay. I

1:22:19 He's got that CIA white hair. He says, okay, so he's born in 1914 and died in 2010. He's dead already. He speaks from the grave. Yeah, here he is. Frank Fenner. So this, okay, so the guy died in 2010 in Canberra. So now we have an article from two days ago in the National Review going on. This is the Fenner guy died? Yeah, in 2010. This is so dumb. So they're running his what, something they found in his pocket? Maybe it was on... They zoomed the body and they found some notes? I think they found it on lastrodigia.com. Alright, that's a jaded view down there. It's a bored story.

1:23:06 Scientists who help wipe out smallpox predict humans will probably be extinct within 100 years because of overpopulation. There we go. There's your Ehrlich guy. Environmental destruction and climate change. Okay, great. But he says we are so Ehrlich says that they did a study which was led by oh it was led by the Woods Hole dudes? Hmm. The Stanford Woods Institute. Oh Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment. Hello Stanford. Dicks. So according to Ehrlich, the study said, concludes, without any significant doubt, listen to the words, the study shows without any significant doubt that we are now entering the sixth great mass extinction event. Okay. I think this is fine. This is just perfect. We're all gonna die! And we know that.

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Joe Biden Climate Comments, Gravity Denial, Safety and Security

Vice President Joe Biden criticizes climate change deniers, jokingly comparing them to people who "deny gravity." He argues that climate change is a fundamental threat to the safety and security of the United States. The hosts mock Biden's rhetoric and his history of using personal tragedies to bolster his political standing.

joe biden· climate change· gravity· safety and security· politics

1:24:05 We're all gonna die. Well, Joe Biden did one better than that. I think Joe Biden is funny. And he's still... Yeah, I wish he'd throw his hat into the ring. I don't know why he doesn't. He could... I hate to say it, but he could totally throw the dead son card. Oh yeah, he's got all the cars. He's got a dead wife, he's got two dead kids and a dead original wife I think. He's got a real good story if you want to feel sorry for the guy. I mean how can you lose with two dead kids and a dead wife? This is great! I don't mean to sound callous. I'm sorry it sounds bad. Sorry. Well, because I did not like a happy camper because of this. Well, you know what? Joe Biden has a message for you, you denier. And as hard as it is to believe, many of these same people continue to deny the reality of climate change.

1:24:53 They also deny gravity. No they don't! Yeah you do! I heard you deny gravity. What a dick! But they deny that there's any such thing as climate change. And that's the problem. The point is it undermines the safety and security. Oh! The safety and security of the United States of America and every community across the country. Then there's actor William Hurt. Bill Hurt. Has he done anything lately? William Hurt, yeah. He's got a new big movie coming out. Oh, oh he was on the Travis Smiley show.

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

William Hurt on AI, Humans TV Series, Global Warming Comparison

Actor William Hurt appears on the Travis Smiley show to promote the sci-fi series "Humans," which explores the blurring lines between people and machines. During the interview, Hurt claims that the issues surrounding artificial intelligence are as "monstrous" as global warming. The hosts criticize Hurt for using the promotional platform to pivot to environmental alarmism.

william hurt· artificial intelligence· humans· travis smiley· global warming· elon musk

1:25:32 Yes, you know movie public broadcast. What look up the movie and listen to this question and listen to his answer let me circle back to humans because Everybody seems to have an opinion these days on AI artificial intelligence And that's some of what this gets into I was seeing causes us at least to wrestle with or to marinate on when we see the series marinate marinate on marinate on I'm gonna marinate you. All right, here we go. I've seen comments from everybody of late from Dr. Stephen Hawking to Elon Musk. Oh, how could I have missed that one? Did he say Dr. Elon Musk? No, I think he said Dr. ... Well, let's play it and let's roll it back. No, Stephen Hawking. Hold on.

1:26:16 Yeah King to Elon Musk to others who are concerned I read a tweet or something where he suggested that we got to be really careful with AI because it could be more dangerous than new Musk I'm one of you but you're you're I'm for two questions you can take me where you want to take them one is if you have thoughts about AI number one and number two what this series is going to cause us to wrestle with vis-a-vis AI. Okay. Now, the series is called Humans. It's a British science fiction television series. Just debuted on Channel 4. It explores the emotional impact of the blurring of the lines between humans and machines. You know, there's a topic... I've never thought of that! So if you are... It would be a topic for fiction. If you are doing this series and you're promoting the series on PBS on a smart show, which apparently

1:27:15 Oh, Elon! Elon watches. What would your answer be to what you were afraid of if you are regarding artificial intelligence, which is the topic of your series? So you asked me what you do to play it. You'd ask me what I'm afraid of. No, I'm going to I'm going to do better. I'm going to have Travis, you pretend you're William Hurt. And here's Travis Smiley is going to ask you the question. What this series is going to cause us to wrestle with vis-a-vis AI. Well, I think there may be an issue with actors' equity and SAG. I'm not sure. I'm working in England and it's really confusing.

1:27:54 No, no, not even close. It's about artificial intelligence. He's serious about artificial intelligence. What will we be wrestling with? What will we be afraid of? What is the fear of AI artificial intelligence? Okay, let's do it again. Come on, let's do it again. Okay, hold on. I can do it this time. I'll do it right. Okay, all right, here we go. I'm going to ask for two questions. You can take them any way you want to take them. One is if you have thoughts about AI, number one, and number two, what this series is going to cause us to wrestle with vis-a-vis AI. Well, I think when Windows 10 comes out a lot of this will be resolved and the computer networking situation is kind of I don't fully understand it so I haven't got it. No. That is completely incorrect. I thought it would be right on the money. Here's his answer.

1:28:41 I think there's nothing about AI that isn't going to be as important to us as issues as monstrous as global warming. Wow That's a lot better my stupid answers That he's promoting changing this subject he's promoting the show about artificial intelligence Then then he just goes straight of the I think nothing nothing screw that series This is my I'm using this as a platform to warn people. I'm Bill Hurt actor. Well, he refers himself as a William. I

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Brian Williams Return, MSNBC Demotion, Rachel Maddow

Brian Williams is set to return to the airwaves at MSNBC following his suspension from NBC Nightly News for fabricating stories. Rachel Maddow welcomed him to the network, describing his demotion as a "humbling experience" and a chance for redemption. Williams will serve as a breaking news anchor, a role the hosts describe as a "workhorse remit" compared to his previous top-tier position.

brian williams· msnbc· rachel maddow· nightly news· demotion· breaking news

1:29:22 He was the guy in broadcast news and I thought that character he played there was just the perfect, outstanding. It was great and I always felt it was kind of him. A good reader. Yeah, that's possible. Well, I mean now this confirms it. Well, good readers, yes. Speaking of good readers, one of our best readers is back. Oh, Brian Williams? Brian Williams, that's right. He's back. He is eating pie. Oh, so humble. Eating crow. He might be eating pie. And so the way it works is they send them to the farm team over there with that lesbian, Chris Hayes. Yes. And then there's Rachel Maddow. But she is happy. I think she does a great job of welcoming Brian Williams back. It is so

1:30:16 So crazy that did you see his interview with lower? Yeah, I did. Did you get any clips from that? No, it wasn't clippable. Yeah, I had the same But you know, he's like, well, you know, I'd never said it wrong and then all of a sudden I had me I don't know man. I can't believe I did it. I'm really sorry. I'm Rachel Maddow is very happy. Of course to welcome Brian Williams into the fold at MSNBC. I am really happy. I that Brian Williams is coming here to MSNBC. Yeah, uh-huh. And that's first. I'm really happy, thanks. I was the top dog, now I gotta deal with this douchebag. Because he has apologized. He's acknowledged what he did. He's apologized for it and he has been through the most fantastically humbling experience that you can imagine. No, I think there are more humbling things than a newsreader lying and getting caught. There may be more humbling things. Do you think?

1:31:05 Maybe. Yeah. I can think of a few. Yeah. Yeah. It could be bad, but it gets better. Since he left Knightley back in February. Knightley. Knightley. We call it Knightley. If you're in the biz. Or in the company. Say who's going to take over Knightley? Is it going to be the same guy doing Knightley? Well, we're gonna- We think Lester Holtz- We can go with Lester Holtz because he's- he's got a- you know, nobody's objecting to him, so- and he's both- so we'll go with him. Lester will continue to do Knightley. A humbling experience that you can imagine since he left Knightley back in February. The fact that he wants to come back on those terms...

1:31:41 You mean being relegated, being the, what is the opposite of promoted? Demoted? Demoted to MSNBC. Demoted from, what, they probably had six or seven million viewers on the nightly? No, well, maybe. Maybe more. Probably there. And now, you know, six or seven. Let me take a look. Just six or seven viewers. And not slink away, right? The fact that he wants to work from that point. He wants to work his way back into earning people's trust again. I think so. Yeah, she's like patronizing. Uh-huh. I think the way second chances should work. Oh, that's how second chances should work.

1:32:20 Okay, we'll remind you of that next time you're berating somebody or Rochelle or a whole that's exactly the way second chances should work Yes, the other reason I'm happy about this is is because of what he's going to be doing here as I understand it Mr. We licking my boots I think is what she's about to say. Hey Williams. Give me coffee Williams is going to have a workhorse remit here. What a minute He's gonna have a what a workhorse agreement. He's had to work his ass off. I I'd rather quit. He can do lots of stuff. He can do a Jerry Springer type show. This guy, he could do so much. No, he's going to have a workhorse agreement. I understand that Mr. Williams is going to have a workhorse remit here. Anchoring breaking news events and special news events here on MSNBC. It's a freelance contract. And you know what? Despite everything that has happened and come to light over the last few months,

1:33:12 Brian Williams has tremendous experience and just sheer capability when it comes to on-air handling of big news and breaking news. And now he will be doing that here. But I believe in redemption. I believe in second chances. What does it got to do with you? Well, here he is. What high horse is she on? I believe in redemption. I think she's on his back. He's the working horse agreement. She's riding on him through a saddle on Brian Williams. Here is a have an example of what he'll be doing. Have you seen him yet with his breaking news segments? I don't watch MSNBC. Breaking news segments. You got a breaking news segment. And now back to real breaking news. Yes, the beaches are back open. Woohoo! Brian Williams, MSNBC.

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

NBC News Revenue, Today Show Profits, Al Roker

Financial data reveals that NBC Nightly News generated $148 million in 2014, while the Today Show brought in approximately $435 million despite not being the top-rated morning program. The hosts discuss the massive profitability of network news divisions and the high salaries paid to anchors like Al Roker. They express amazement at the half-billion-dollar scale of morning television revenue.

nbc news· revenue· today show· nightly news· al roker· television finance

1:34:02 You know, it's not as good when you do the trick. Well, you know, if you don't send them to me, then what do you mean it's not as good? I've been backing off. I mean, I'm not going to do that thing. That little clip there is just a good clip. It's a great clip. I'm trying to get what the audience is and that is very hard to when I do this one you and people seem to like it. You seem to like that classic. Yeah, yeah, I gave that that one's yours. You can do with what you want that in the one the new one I gave you which is yeah, it's amazing. It's just incredible. Yeah, it's just incredible. The crappy creamy skin. All right, let us talk about the storm roof. Oh, yeah, storm roof.

1:34:48 But I just want to throw this one factoid out. NBC Nightly News made $148 million in 2014. That was the news show. So that means they probably, they used to pay the anchor like 12 million, so it seems a little high. Good times. What do you think the Today Show brought in? And it's not even number one anymore. The Today Show on annual basis, you mean? Yeah. I would say... Nightly News, $148 million. Yeah, 148, yes, 148 million. I'm going to say, I'm just thinking of how many people on the show, they're probably going to do about 175. 435. Holy crap. Oh man. Half a billion, almost half a billion dollars. Half a billion dollars, that's not even the top show, it's number three, I think. Wow. That's money. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. I can deal with Al Roker.

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Dylann Roof, Suboxone Influence, Rick Perry Comments

Republican candidate Rick Perry suggests that Charleston shooter Dylann Roof was under the influence of the drug Suboxone, a claim the hosts support. Suboxone, manufactured by Reckitt Benckiser, is used to treat opioid dependence but is linked to erratic behavior when misused. The hosts argue that the role of pharmaceutical drugs in mass shootings is a scandal ignored by mainstream media due to advertiser interests.

dylann roof· suboxone· rick perry· charleston shooting· opioid addiction· reckitt benckiser

1:35:52 Hey Al, let me tongue kiss you. We're making millions of dollars. Who cares? Who cares? I'll get up early. Yeah. Okay. So this Storm Roof, this is about the shooting in the South Carolina church. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of things I don't like about this. Well, can I throw one thing out before you even get into this that I don't like? Sure. Rick Perry. is the only guy, now I'm gonna take Rick Perry's side on this, but I'm gonna read the Daily Mail headline. Republican hopeful Rick Perry brands Charleston shooting, now here's all caps, accident, and says he believes killer Dylan Roof was acting under the influence of drugs. And then they make fun of him, Rick Perry's a big dummy. But if you look into what he's actually saying is Rick Perry is making the claim that he is on

1:36:51 Suboxone. Prescription drugs. Suboxone. Yeah. Suboxone. He was arrested having it. Which is making people nuts. Yeah. And that's to treat, was it opiate addiction I think? The suboxone? I don't know. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. It's completely bonkers. Bonkers. Yeah, no, I'm in total agreement that this, of course the drug... This is not just... All these situations that we've been witnessing can all be traded and they don't want to talk about it. Because all... It's the advertisers! We can't be... Who makes Suboxone? Let's see who makes it. If we were doing anything but the No Agenda show, we wouldn't be talking about it. Correct. Suboxone is made by... Who makes it?

1:37:36 Who makes this stuff, man? Suboxone. Here we go. Let's just take a look at it. Suboxone also... Oh wow. Oh, this is crazy. Look at the suboxone.com. Oh, suboxone.com? Yeah. They get their own website? Well, it's a huge drug. How do you spell it? Sierra Uniform Bravo. Sierra Uniform? Mm-hmm. Bravo. Suboxo? Bravo Oscar X-ray. Oscar November Echo. You could also say suboxone. You could say it that way if you want it. Then it's for opioid dependence. So if he had, he probably got it illegally, but it probably is like methadone, I guess. Yeah, it's supposed to be a methadone substitute. Real patient story. What is suboxone? Oh, it's a film. Oh, interesting. Suboxone film. That's what he had. The orange strips. It's also known as, let me look at the slang for a second here.

1:38:35 The slang Suboxone. You want someone to help you find a doctor, call us. Free service refers patients to physicians who are qualified per the Drug Addiction Treatment Act of 2000 to treat opioid dependence or FDA approved medication who have agreed to be in the Rekit Benkiser Pharmaceuticals Inc. physician locator. This falls under stuff like what was our favorite smoking cessation drug? Yeah. Yeah, that's shantix. Shantix. Yeah, shantix. So this is... Don't use it, it makes you crazy. It's called the orange strips, is what it's called. The orange strips, that's kind of the drug, the street language. See, this is the scandal that nobody wants to talk about. I mean, yeah, they could jump all over this guy, put him in front of a camera and then, you know, tell him he's an a-hole. I will guarantee you, you could put it in the book, because it happens with

1:39:31 gay and transgendered, you know, gay teens who kill themselves. Most, if not many, many, many of them, a large percentage are on some form of antidepressants. And then when they bring in lawyers, you trace these lawyers back to the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not going to put this in the book. We've talked about this. Well, no. Okay. Well, then let us just be aware that the lawyers who will be defending him pro bono will probably be drug company lawyers. Because they jump in and say, hey, we'll do pro bono for you. Not a problem. You look at the other clients. So who sells this stuff? Let's just take a look. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm going to have to go to the wiki page. Suboxone is... Suboxone 1. That's strange. Reckitt. It's also known as Boo... Let's see. Boo... Reckitt. These guys are from Reckitt?

1:40:23 Wow, isn't Rekit, aren't the guys that do a whole bunch of consumer packaged goods stuff? They're a database company, I think. Buprenorphine. No, Suboxone. Buprenorphine. Buprenorphine. I should have been studying. It's Buprenorphine. I didn't study my journals. And Axalone's the same stuff. Rekit Benkiser Pharmaceuticals. RECKIT is the name of the pharmaceutical? R-E-C-K-I-T-T. RECKIT Benkiser. They're owned by somebody else, I'll betcha. Okay, let's see. They have a cool domain name rb.com. Someone got happy on that. The company has one drug in the top 100 drugs and that of course is Suboxone. They also make Buprex.

1:41:15 In 1969, researchers at Reckitt and Coleman, now Reckitt-Benkiser, have spent 10 years attempting to synthesize an opium compound... Yeah, it's heroin! ...with structures substantially more complex than morphine that could retain the desirable actions whilst shedding the undesirable side effects, addiction. So they're trying to come up with a... that's not going to happen the way the mechanism doesn't allow for that. Anyway, RECCIT found success when researchers synthesized RX6029, which had showed success in reducing dependence in test animals.

1:41:54 Rx6029 was named bufreno... buf... bufant... buprenophine... buprenophine... bufantophine... buprenophine... and began trials on humans in 1971. It's old. 1978, buprenophine was first launched in the UK as an injection to treat severe pain with sublingual formulation released in 82. In the United States, with Naxolone, which is similar, were approved for opioid addiction. It was a Schedule III drug. So the kid just looks super high. He just looks crazy-ass high. Yeah, he does. Did you see this? I have a number of clips about this. I felt...

1:42:37 Well, one, we have mainstream just turning this into all kinds of things. So here's a...well, let me just read this last little piece of information for the public. All right. In recent years, buprenorphine has been introduced in most European countries as a transdermal formulation marketed as transtech. That's the stuff that goes on your...it's a little patch. Yes. It's a patch. And it should be used as part of a complete treatment plan to include counseling and psychosocial support. So if you're taking this without a prescription, you know, you could probably go wiggy, as we used to say. Now, a lot of people came out, a lot of things were talking, you know, this was immediately related to hate, of course, immediately, right away, hate, hate, hate. It's just hate. It's hate. But our good boy... Oh man!

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Charleston Shooting Manifesto, LastRhodesian.com, Social Media Sleuths

The FBI and social media sleuths investigate a manifesto and website, LastRhodesian.com, attributed to Dylann Roof. The site, registered through a Russian registrar, contains 100 megabytes of photos and a political screed. The hosts question the authenticity of the site, noting that it appeared on Archive.org only after the shooting and that most EXIF data had been stripped from the images.

dylann roof· manifesto· lastrhodesian.com· fbi· james comey· social media· archive.org

1:43:28 FBI director James Comey, brand new FBI director, former bankster, HSBC, the money launderers, he came in and he said he made sure of one thing. I wouldn't because of the way- It's not terrorism, that's what he's talking about. Is it terrorism, Mr. Comey? I wouldn't because of the way we define terrorism under the law. Terrorism is an act of violence done or threatened. to, in order to try to influence a public body or the citizenry, so it's more of a political act. And again, based on what I know so far, I don't see it as a political act. Wait a minute! What about the manifesto? This manifesto was 100% political.

1:44:12 Have you read the manifesto? I sure have. I have a copy of it in the show notes. It's very disturbing, this manifesto. Is it? Yes. I have not read it. Okay, first let me give you a little clip of some... Okay, you can stop right now for one thing. And your criticism of Comey is uncalled for. The FBI was not involved in this. Normally they set these things up themselves and they let them play out according to their script. This guy wasn't apparently on the payroll. He wasn't on the script. I'm not saying he was. I'm not saying he was. No, I know you're not saying that, but then you're blaming poor Comey. Comey can't go along with these freelancers. I'm not blaming Comey. You're jumping the gun.

1:44:54 No, I'm not blaming Comey. What I'm saying is Comey says this is this was not he knew about the manifesto. Well, yeah, well then Comey's lying. Well, no, he's just incorrect. And I was only using the short clip, John, as a transition. Ah, it was a segue. Yes, as a transition to say it most certainly was a political statement. If you believe the manifesto was really written by him, I of course have reasons to believe it was not. CNN is also couching their opinions on the validity of said manifesto. What does this manifesto say?

1:45:30 Well, Poppy, it says what you would expect from someone who did what authorities say he did. And again, I want to clarify, the author of this manifesto, we have not been able to authenticate that in fact it was Dylan Roof. But the website has been registered to Dylan Roof. So... Now that is very sketchy. This was registered in February through a Russian registrar, dot r u. And the funny thing about this whole sequence is this was discovered by some social media people, I'm sorry, social media sleuths. Social media sleuths. Apparently Henry Kinkle, at Henry Kinkle, discovered that there was a website that had been registered

1:46:23 And the website is of course lastrodesian.com. And the website was not on the air. Now here's where it gets interesting. Twitter sleuth, social media sleuth, EM Quangle paid $49 to Brazil, I guess to... it's unclear. Apparently to see the registration, to open the registration, or to get the domain name, I'm not sure what it is. The thing was, it's the Russian fee. It's very unclear. Very, very unclear. And then all of a sudden we have LastRhodesian.com showing up on archive.org, but only one day of capture. And that is on the 20th with... Of this month. Yeah, about nine or ten changes.

1:47:12 And so all of a sudden there's a zip file with 100 megabytes of photos. There is... all of them have been... all but one I could find, all of the EXIF data was removed. There's one photo of the kid burning an American flag with a Gold's Gym t-shirt on and the EXIF data there says it was shot on 2015. Let me see the actual... Date, here we go. 5-11, 2015. And it was shot with a Kodak EasyShare camera. No GPS data, unfortunately. All the other photos have either been altered, or have been altered from their original state for sure. Could also be copies in Picasa or some program like that, which is annoying by itself that a program completely strips all the data out.

1:48:09 So, very iffy if this was indeed his website. It certainly wasn't online. And it's kind of, you know, when you have a manifesto of political nature, you kind of want the website to be up. It just doesn't really, you know, catch me. Usually the manifesto would be done not a week before the event. Sounds like this website was just thrown up at the last minute. That's what you guess what it sounds like and the manifesto is a file Titled RTF 8 8 dot txt now there's all kinds of little hidden messages and all of this stuff actually was Brian the gay crusader Who's one of our best researchers who got out? He got all over this I love it when he does these things and

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

White Supremacist Code, 1488, Rhodesian Flag Imagery

Analysis of the photos attributed to Dylann Roof reveals white supremacist symbols, including the code "1488" (representing the "14 words" and "Heil Hitler"). Roof is also seen wearing a patch of the Rhodesian flag, a symbol associated with white minority rule in Africa. The hosts note a historical connection to James Earl Ray, who also expressed interest in emigrating to Rhodesia.

1488· heil hitler· rhodesia· martin luther king jr· james earl ray· symbolism

1:48:57 And he deduced a number of things, I'll pull it up for you right now. So first of all, this 88 is code. 88 is used by supremacists as Heil Hitler. H being the 8th letter in the alphabet, so you use 88, that means H.H. Heil Hitler. There were more things, let's see, what else did he find here? The website has one page You can only get to it through archive.org. The homepage, if you will, has a picture and then it has a photo link and that takes you to a zip file of photos of him. And the other one is text and that downloads, that's a direct link to the rft88.txt manifesto. The photo on the website is a photo of Russell Crowe from the movie Romper Stomper. Then it shows a guy beat up.

1:49:54 Synopsis, Russell Crowe and Daniel Pollack are the star in this movie, are leaders of a racist youth gang who spend their nights attacking Asian immigrants in a rough section of Melbourne. On the run after losing badly in a fight against the new Vietnamese owners of their local pub, the pair hook up with teenage junkie Gabe. Jacqueline Mackenzie, who suggests robbing the mansion of her rich and sexually abusive father, but the girl's presence begins to drive a wedge between the longtime friends. Not sure why that image was chosen to be on the homepage. Then, so I told you about the 88. Then we have... Oh yes, in one photo he is wearing a patch on his t-shirt of the Rhodesian flag.

1:50:42 Which is anti-apartheid flag. When I saw the Rhodesian flag patch on his jacket, it looked photoshopped to me. I agree. And that is one of these photos that you cannot find any EXIF data from. But just as an interesting side note, Martin Luther King's, you know, there's all this tie-in to Martin Luther King Jr. that he spoke at this church. He was shot and killed by James Earl Ray. James Earl Ray stated at the time, according to the Book of Knowledge, he considered emigrating to Rhodesia, where a white minority regime had assumed independence from the UK. Of course, Rhodesia now known as Zimbabwe.

1:51:31 So, interesting little tie-in with that. Then he has drawings in the sand photo. There's one drawing with the numbers 1488, which stands for, if you believe the code, it's white supremacy. 14 is the 14 words being, quote, we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children, end quote. And then back to the HH, that's the Heil Hitler. And then Brian, our gay crusader, says, you know, my gaydar's usually pretty good. Just as an aside note, I'm pretty sure this kid is gay. I don't know what it means, but it's hard to be a... it's harder to roll with the white supremacist being gay. I think there's a problem. They might not like you. You're ruining whitehood or something. Okay, so it's all these things like, wow, this really ties in beautifully, doesn't it? It just all works out perfectly.

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Dylann Roof's Motives, University Target Claim, Friend Interview

A friend of Dylann Roof claims in an interview that Roof's "primary target" was actually the University of South Carolina, not the Emanuel AME Church. The friend asserts that Roof never expressed racist views to him and seemed to be a "gamer" using terms like "primary target." The hosts find the discrepancy between the manifesto's focus on the church and the friend's account of a school target to be suspicious.

dylann roof· charleston· university of south carolina· primary target· racism· gaming terms

1:52:33 So now let us finish CNN's analysis of the manifesto. At this point authorities are still trying to figure out if in fact Dylann Roof is the author of the manifesto. But if he is, what was said in this manifesto is incredibly hateful. There are statements that were made, basically disturbing statements, inflammatory statements against blacks and other minorities. And it's a very long manifesto and I want to go to the end of it because he talks about the author talks about the reason for choosing Charleston this is what it says

1:53:12 I have no choice. I am not in the position to alone go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well, someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world and I guess that has to be me. chilling words, Poppy, if in fact it comes out that Dylan Roof was the author of this manifesto. Okay, so of course I read the manifesto, as we like to do here, Best Podcast in the Universe. We actually read the crap that the mainstream media just, oh, oh, so long. Oh man, I can't believe how long it was. And here's what I found troubling. I'm going to do a little word search here.

1:54:04 First, it's pretty well written. There's a couple of spelling mistakes. The word he uses, lens, he spells L-E-N-S-E for some reason. But here is the thing that we've been talking about just recently that disturbed me. From this point I researched, I'm quoting from the manifesto, from this point I researched deeper and found out what was happening in Europe. I saw the same things were happening in England and France and in all the other Western European countries. Again, I found myself in disbelief. As an American, we are taught to accept living in the melting pot and black and other minorities have just as much right to be here as we do, since we are all immigrants. But Europe is the homeland of the white people. Now on Thursday's show, we talked about this trend of calling white people Europeans. Yes, that was disturbing. And here it shows up again, yet just a day or two later.

1:55:04 And, you know, this is a trend we need to keep our eye on and it shows up in this manifesto he wrote. And I'm... now you have to question if he wrote this at all. There's a couple more. It is far too late... it is far from being too late for America or Europe. No, let's see, Europeans. Then he has a heading Jews. Funny, you never hear anyone talk about how he hates Jews. But he has a whole paragraph about Jews. and Hispanics, East Asians. So to me it's dubious if he wrote this.

1:55:42 And then, who was this? Some news outfit interviewed one of his friends, Black Kid. Like everybody's making him out to be racist but here I am in front of you today as a black man and telling you I look at him no different today than what I looked at him last week because he never said anything racist to me, never treated me any different than he treated Justin. That church wasn't his primary target at all. That's why my heart goes out to them. Now, this is what I don't like about this report. So you say that church was not his primary target at all. Who says that? What kid on the street, what 21 year old kid talks about primary target? No, no, no, no, no. I have a problem with this. He said anything racist to me, never treated me any different than he treated Justin. That church wasn't his primary target at all.

1:56:27 That's why my heart goes out to the 9 family because you guys weren't the targets. What does that mean? He wanted to shoot that school up UCA University of Charleston. It's three miles up the street from that church. He told you he wanted to attack the school? Yeah, he had no intentions on harming those people in that church. Can you just tell me more about when he told you this? We were on our way to the river. It was on a Wednesday because we dropped them off at the lake. He was like he's gonna shoot the school up and I was like what? And he just stopped talking about it. He never said anything else about it. He was just like they all got seven days to live. How many friends do you have that's killed nine people within this week? So how do you take it serious?

1:57:11 As close as possible, can you remember what words he used to say what he said? That I'm gonna shoot the university up and they all got seven days to live. And on Wednesday he did it, he shot that church up. I think it's all boils down to this child who him and his parents aren't on good terms. Like I said, without the support of your parents, you'll do things that you wouldn't think you'd do. When he mentioned the school, did he have a grudge against the school in the past or anything like that? None. I don't even know if he knew anybody at the school. He had no grudge. He wasn't an angry person. And he never mentioned the church before either? Never. I've never heard him say anything racist. I've never heard him say anything about hurting black people, and specifically black people only. Okay. Void Zero points out to me that primary target is without doubt a gaming term.

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Race Relations Poll, Confederate Flag Controversy, Gun Control

A CBS News poll indicates that 61% of Americans believe race relations are bad, the highest level since the 1992 Rodney King riots. The Charleston shooting has reignited the debate over the Confederate flag and gun control, with President Obama calling for a "reckoning" on mass violence. The hosts criticize the media for framing the event solely through the lens of racism and firearm access.

race relations· cbs news· confederate flag· gun control· barack obama· loretta lynch

1:58:02 So if the kid was a gamer, which we haven't heard, then... so we could be getting the gaming thing crop up again. Yeah, it could be. Okay, so the validity of this report, I don't know. It's very different and I think it's something that needs to be looked into. He said a week before, I'm going to shoot those kids up at at the university doesn't really jive with his, well, with all of the news in the mainstream. Here's CBS. This violence, of course, comes at a time of increasing mistrust between blacks and whites. In a recent CBS News New York Times poll, 61% said race relations in this country were bad. The highest number since the Rodney King riots 23 years ago.

1:58:48 But the full picture of hate in this country may actually be more troubling. The FBI reported 5,922 hate crimes in 2013. Hate crimes, hate crimes, hate crimes, racial hate crimes, NBC. 50 years ago it seemed racism had met its match and it did to a point. A martyr fell and laws were changed and some hearts were changed too. But whatever happened to that affirmation of equality? Perhaps the virus of racism never died It just lay dormant, only to flare up again in new ways. A man dies in police custody in Baltimore, pushing people to the streets. In lots of places in our land, there is unease. There is distrust.

1:59:33 Aren't all men created equal? Oh, ABC took it a step further and they really kicked off something that was on CNN all Saturday long. Everybody has an opinion on the Confederate flag. The pure symbol of racism. Except when it was on the General Lee and the Dukes of Hazzard, then it was cool. But apparently, you know, you're racist. Then it wasn't flying at half-mast. Sources were stunned at the cold-blooded and calculated nature of the crime, and there's real concern, sources say, that this person could act again. Also, George, remember, the new attorney general, who is African American, is a daughter of the South and the child of a Baptist minister. This case unfolds at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, says these organizations are on the rise, a 30 percent increase in their numbers since 2000.

2:00:22 A disturbing, difficult day, George. Yes, very disturbing and difficult. And the Confederate flag flies and we have a new black attorney general just as black as the old attorney general. But OK, maybe she's targeted or I don't know why they brought that in. And of course we had the president with lots of support from the mainstream media regarding this being a gun issue. It is shocking in every sense and already authorities are calling it a hate crime. How do you feel about what has happened here? I mean, is there anything that would ever have made you think this could happen in your community? Yeah, for me as far as it's a shock.

2:01:01 But when you look at America, America has this great love affair with guns and anybody can get them. Whether they're mentally disturbed, whether they're crazy, whether they're part of a hate group, just give them a gun. Everybody has a gun and nobody wants to police it or rein it in. And when you have things like this, it would be absurd to think that every church that has a service or a meeting would lock their doors and lock people out. Can't do that and so when you look at this country in the direction is going in it's just a lot of violence everywhere It's almost non-stop. That's right. Just non-stop violence every people shooting up the streets here in Texas Oh wait, that's not true because everybody actually does have a gun here And we don't do that because the other guy probably has a gun doesn't I think this you know this whole thing and yeah You're showing it more than and I'm going to one last point. But yeah, please

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Clementa Pinckney Assassination Theory, Political Corruption

The hosts propose a theory that the Charleston shooting was a targeted political hit on State Senator Clementa Pinckney. They cite Pinckney's involvement in local corruption scandals and gerrymandering efforts in Colleton County as potential motives. They suggest Dylann Roof may have been a "Manchurian candidate" style patsy used to mask a political assassination.

clementa pinckney· assassination· south carolina· corruption· gerrymandering· state senator

2:01:57 Well, go to your last point because then I want to tell you what I think, which is still what I thought from the beginning. Okay. Well, yeah, the drugs. I'm with you on that. Well, no, not the drugs. That's not what I'm talking about. The drugs had something to do with this maniac doing this. But I still believe that this was a political hit on Clemente Pinkney, who if you start looking into it... State senator, anti-gun. Well, it's not just anti-gun, but he's involved in all sorts of corruption scandals. This is the first thing we said. Who got killed? Yeah, that's all you have to look at, who got killed. And then you got some dumb kid who's an idiot, he's easily manipulable, it seems to me, you could probably get him to do stuff. Yeah, but look at his hair. Someone got him to cut his hair like that. You're on drugs with that hair, my friend. But let's be clear.

2:02:45 Let's be clear. I actually I nor I normally cut everything out of the president all his pregnant pauses I did it in all of them except this first one where I don't know if this was a prompter flub or Like a he was supposed to read one sentence. I'm not quite sure I left the pause in there But let's be clear at some point we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries Oh Okay So now what is an advanced country? Is it wrong? Is it wrong? Isn't Iran an advanced country? Well, no. Yes. No, Iran is super advanced. Any country that has more violence than we do is not an advanced country. Okay, thank you for clarifying the rules. Yeah, it is the rules. And all the knife things that go on in Great Britain? No. No. Well, it's not en masse. No. Anyway. It does not happen in other advanced countries.

2:03:44 But that didn't happen in, was it Anders Breivik? No. He killed 80 children. No, no. Doesn't happen. No, no. It's not an advanced country. All of Scandinavia, not an advanced country. No, no. Not at all. No, no, no, no. There's two advanced countries. It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. With this kind of frequency? There you go. It's the frequency. And it is in our power to do something about it. I say that recognizing the politics in this town, foreclose A lot of those avenues right now. Ah, the politics foreclose the avenues. That means we can't do gun control because we like children killing black people in churches. But let's just go one step further. Let's talk to Todd Rutherford. He is a South Carolina state representative, a Democrat.

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Bill Maher, Fox News Rhetoric, Drone Strike Comparison

Comedian Bill Maher and his guests suggest that Fox News and Matt Drudge are responsible for inspiring the Charleston shooter through "coded language." Maher compares the influence of Fox News to that of Anwar al-Awlaki, suggesting that if the U.S. drones terrorists for "inspiring" violence, the same logic could apply to media figures. The hosts condemn this rhetoric as dangerous and unhealthy.

bill maher· fox news· anwar al-awlaki· drone strikes· hate speech· matt drudge

2:04:36 And he lays it out. This became a real meme on CNN. He hears that because he watches the news, he watches things like Fox News, where they talk about things that they call news, but they're really not. They use that coded language, they use hate speech. Oh, it's coded language, John. It's Fox News hate speech. It's Fox News. It's all coded. It's Fox News. Now, who is the biggest hater of Fox News? Well, Obama's one of them. Yeah? Who gave a million dollars to Obama? Bill Maher. She said no one when she was took over as governor, she said she reached out to CEOs across the state to drum up some jobs. She said no one of the CEOs, not one of them asked me about the flag. She said we really kind of fixed all that when you elected the first Indian American female governor. See, this is the point I'm making. They think they fixed all that. Do you think that the flag I mean, we I agree they should take that flag down.

2:05:38 But do you think that... That is something I disagree with. That's why this young man shot up that church? I think it's really... Well, we can never know why someone snaps, but I bet you I know where he got his news. Fox! They're killers! Fox News, killers! I would bet money that kid doesn't watch Fox News. No, of course not. He's quite disabled. Listen to the crowd! Oh, the crowd is bloodthirsty. Yeah, but it's time we need to take Fox News off the air and wrap it in the Confederate flag and burn it all, bomb it, get rid of it. Jeez. Yeah, Bill! Fuck Fox! Fox News, killers!

2:06:20 Killers! Killers! Killers! I looked at your website the last week. It was a lot of stories about black people. A lot of stories about black people. You must have a racist website. A lot of stories. Same with Matt Drudge. I mean, I think they presented a really twisted view. Matt Drudge is just a link site. He links to black news about black people. He hates black people. A lot of stories about black people. A lot of stories about black people. Oh, a lot of stories. It's in your DNA. A lot of stories. Same with Matt Drudge. Actually, the guy on the show will set Maher straight, which I like. I mean, I think they present a really twisted view. I'm not surprised this guy thought they're taking over the country. Obviously, he's a warped mind. That goes into it. But I don't think it was video games.

2:07:11 And I do think the media is responsible too. What kid chooses Fox News over video games? No way, no way Bill Maher. I think it was... I think there is... Woo yeah Fox! Killers! I wouldn't say we should be droning Fox News, but we did drone Anwar al-Awlaki because he inspired people. Okay, now this is where we get into an interesting area. This is another borderline clip of the day you've got here. But this is fabulous. And... That's drone Fox News. No, he says, I don't want to, but, you know, hey, and let's be honest about it. Yeah, he wants to drone Fox News. He is responsible to a degree. Well, I think it was... I think there is... I wouldn't say we should be droning Fox News, but we did drone Anwar al-Awlaki.

2:08:03 because he inspired people. Isn't that great? So if you inspire people to kill black people, you should be the first guy to kill Jesus. This is smart. That is exactly what this guy says. He didn't do any terrorist act. He just inspired. Let me just challenge you on this real quick. You have talked on shows in the past a lot. I think you did a documentary that was anti-religion. Right. This guy goes into a church and shoots up a church. I would not accuse you of inspiring people to act violently because of your anti- All of a sudden no one's hooting and hollering. Oh crap, they got our messiah. Checkmate on Mar. Religious rhetoric. That would be wrong of me to do. I think it's inappropriate to call. But Matt, that's a non-sequitur in this case. Because the religion was not the point.

2:08:47 But it's a non-sequitur. It's a non-sequitur. Where'd she get all this? Who's that woman? I don't know. I could look it up. She doesn't know what a non-sequitur is. Religion was not the point. The point was he said, I'm here to feel like he was. He didn't go to a bowling alley. He wasn't making the point about religion. He didn't go to a rock concert. He went to a storied black church, probably the most famous black church in South Carolina, if not in the country. Is this true? Is it the most famous black church in the country? Not that I know of. And does that mean that white people cannot go into the church? If it's a black church, if it's a black church and the white kid walks in, you know what I'd be thinking? He's gonna kill me.

2:09:25 which is racist by itself. Birthplace of the African Methodist in this country. And said I'm here to kill backstabbers. And he sat and worshipped with Christian, African American Christians at an AME church for an hour, and then he killed them. I think it's safe to say religion has something to do with it. Seriously? Seriously? Seriously? You know who that is? That's the Presenter I think she's MSNBC. Yeah, I did a blockhead black woman. Yeah, I'm a blockhead a black seriously seriously Now this these conversations by themselves are just turn off your television people Turn off your television that show is really bad. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's unhealthy Yeah, it's very unhealthy all of this stuff is unhealthy to be watching. All right wrap it up It was a it was a hit job on this on this

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

MKUltra, Mind Control Programs, Sirhan Sirhan

The discussion shifts to historical mind control programs like MKUltra, suggesting that mass shooters may be "hypnotized" or "suggestible" individuals. The hosts reference the case of Sirhan Sirhan and the assassination of Bobby Kennedy as examples of "sketchy" events involving potential mental manipulation. They speculate that modern pharmaceutical drugs could be used to facilitate similar states of suggestibility.

mkultra· mind control· sirhan sirhan· bobby kennedy· hypnosis· suggestibility

2:10:27 state senator, and hypnotized, I don't know what to say. It's easy. Some guy who's been taken aside and taken drugs, drugged up, and then told to go do something hypnotically. This is what I would think. Yeah. So Manchurian candidate right here. Boom, you got it. Do we have any... what are some of the things that... Is there any proof of this? No. Pickett? What's his name? Pickney? Pickney yeah, do we have any what are the some of the things that people might have wanted to kill him over? Well, let's see. What do we got here? This would probably? We just read Cuz no stranger that pickney was no stranger to the enabling corrupt black bureaucrats and failing government and run school districts snuck a bill into the SC General Assembly redrawing district lines in Colton County probably got somebody kicked out gerrymandered some poor guy of a job and

2:11:24 in an effort to make it essentially exponentially harder for Williams opponents to win re-election to the school board this year. Pickney quote, his naked act of political retribution is the latest example of a troubling trend of corruption in South Carolina. Not to manipulate and abuse budgetary or, there's money, there's government, big money, education funds. Corrupt Palmetto politicians are now going straight to the ballot box, abusing and manipulating the sanctity of the democratic process in an effort to achieve their political ends. Pikney told reporter Drew Tripp, who broke the story for Colton Today local paper, that he did not make any specific requests to the SC Budget and Control Board Office of Research and Statistics regarding the manipulated district lines.

2:12:09 A staffer at the agency confirmed Pinckney's statements telling the paper the new boundaries, which make short, unexplained jumps across natural boundaries, were not issued at Pinckney's request and that any adverse... See, this sort of thing, if it's a political assassination, you don't know if it's because he did something or he didn't do something he should have done. All it was is that he was... I mean, I don't see that this guy wasn't the target. I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right. Yeah, you got a guy who's got at least accusations. minimally and then you have some some hypnotized and I hate to you know bring it to that you know this kind of mind control aspects but this happens it's happened it's been documented it was documented very thoroughly in the 70s and 80s. You mean MKUltra? Well MKUltra is one program. Yeah there's a lot of different ones. It was just a program there was lots of programs and they're all doing different things and they find susceptible people to do this sort of thing that a lot of people are trying to

2:13:07 figure out what happened with Sirhan Sirhan and Bobby Kennedy which always seems pretty sketchy if you ask me. And I think that's what this is. The guy goes, the kid goes in there, he sits down. Why would you do that? You sit down for an hour until some code word is said or something happens and then you start shooting up the place? Was Charles Pinckney... That does not sound normal. Hold on a second. Was Charles Pinckney, and this is real analysis you're hearing here people. Was Charles Pinckney somehow involved with the university? Well, I haven't seen that in my reading around. Let me see. But federal officials were probing the county school districts effectively controlled by Pinckney. Looks like they should... and Colton County, I guess this guy's talking about it. So there was something going on. We will most likely have people... You'll never find out what it is. We can only suppose.

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

First Responder Anecdote, Drug-Induced Violence, Spit Hoods

A letter from a firefighter/EMS producer describes a violent encounter with a drug-addicted patient who threatened to murder him while being rescued from a car wreck. The producer details the use of "spit hoods" and the increasing difficulty of treating patients on undetectable synthetic street drugs. The account portrays a "zombie-like" state among drug users that poses a constant threat to first responders.

ems· firefighter· spit hood· ketamine· street drugs· zombies· first responders

2:14:02 But it just listening through all these different clips It could very well be alright kid. Here's your next orange strip listen your primary target your primary target is going to be on Wednesday a week from today in the University of South Carolina and then he got a different primary target the last minute now you got to go into the church and just get everybody You won't be able to tell which black man you're supposed to kill because they're all black So just go ahead and kill them all something like that and these drugs These just when people are on crazy ass drugs. Here I got a note from one of our producers who is a firefighter EMS. Suggestible very suggestible. Listen to this story. So this is the email I got. I'm just gonna read it verbatim quote. I'm going to murder you. Do you understand me? When I get out of here, I'm going to find you and murder you end quote.

2:14:56 Here's our producer. That was thanks, that was the thanks I got from the shithead asshole doper I pulled out of a wrecked car tonight. Of course there was a wrestling match happening and he was thankfully losing so he was more than a little irritated. He kept trying to spit in my face but I had seen that coming and bagged his head in a spit hood. You know this is a guy, he's a guy saving the guy's life, pulling him out of a car and he's jacked on drugs. I had seen that coming, bagged his head in a spit hood. It's a mesh so he can see and breathe but it still lets a fine mist of saliva through. I was only a couple of inches from his face but that's where I needed to be to leverage his arm and shoulder down to keep him from swinging at me.

2:15:34 Close enough to keep him pinned just far enough to get my just far enough not to get my face bitten off Oh how I miss the old days and we could just use a pillowcase over the head We draw a smiley face on it with a sharpie and there was no mesh and a lot like throwing a blanket over a birdcage It sometimes chilled a motherfucker out took the piss and vinegar right out And I really laughed the other day when I saw some dork with a quote zombie response vehicle sticker on his truck I fight zombies all the time Normally I'd swing back at this guy with the old velvet hammer, Versed, or some special K, Ketamine, but this shit has escalated pretty fast. I didn't even know what the dude was on. Nobody really seems to care anymore. Apparently the cooks and chemists are altering the street drugs, adapting them, changing them just enough to not be detectable by standard hospital lab tests. Lots of docs aren't even testing these patients anymore because the results typically come back negative.

2:16:25 It doesn't really matter as the treatments are mostly toxidrome based. Treatment in support of the constellation of symptoms, not necessarily a reversal of a particular drug. I'm guessing this is contributing to artificially low reporting on this type of thing. Anyway, it's 0400 hours. I think I'm wound down enough to try and sleep for a couple hours before I go home and do my best to be a good dad and a good husband and have a nice little Saturday. Squirrel! Damn. Right? Yeah! Oh my god, these people are trying to save people. Trying to save people, they're all jacked up on drugs. Zombies are upon us, people. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda!

CHAPTER 36 / 44 Discussion

Father's Day Call-outs, Global Donations, De-Douching

The hosts read a long list of Father's Day donations and call-outs from listeners in the U.S., Canada, Australia, and the UK. One listener notes that high immigration fees to the Department of Homeland Security have limited their ability to donate. The segment includes several "de-douching" ceremonies for first-time donors and birthday wishes for members of the "No Agenda" community.

father's day· donations· canada· australia· immigration fees· de-douching

2:17:13 I will say I really like the idea of going back to the pillowcase and drawing a smiley face with a sharpie. Yeah, I got a good visual. My summary of the whole thing is where there's smoke, there's fire. Sir Eric Bodenstab, we want to thank him for bringing in $132.54 from Hillside, Illinois. We do have a bunch of Father's Day call-outs. We'll read the ones as we go along here, and then I'm going to go read deeper into the spreadsheet. Because there was a thing you put your name in there and if we forget some we're gonna have to do a belated Father's Day on the next show we can do that. So this is a Father's Day for Sir Eric. He doesn't really have anybody to call out. Okay, well. But he's Sir Eric's father. Name's Sam Menor. One, two, three, four, five in Box Hill, South Victoria. It does have, she has a douche bag call out for Fast Eddie.

2:18:12 Sir Craig in Chicago, Illinois, $123.33. Thomas Butterick of Dayton, Ohio, Sir Ladyfingers. No dad there. We didn't actually get a lot of dad callouts. I'm actually kind of surprised. David Good in Flower Mound, Texas, $78.90. And that callout to Douglas Good. Happy Father's Day. Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia, 7320. Happy Father's Day to us. Sir D.H. Slammer, 6969. Happy birthday to Dame Wing...Bang Bang, wink wink. And a swazzle enough, wink wink. Michelle Robb in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, 6969.

2:19:03 And, Abigail. Oh, that's a Father's Day, uh... Yeah, I'm sorry. Abigail, who's nine months old, would like to wish Daddy a happy first Father's Day. Aww. Big fan of the show. Not the kid, but the dad. Us, maybe the kid. James Cates in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Another 69-69. No Father's Day there. James Durant in San Diego, California, 60-21. Happy Father's Day to the godfathers of us again. We get another We were hoping you would do it for your own dad's but I'll take it I'd like yeah, we'll take it we can always use the vibe Aaron Lawrence in Kokomo, Indiana Scott check I in Harvick, Pennsylvania

2:19:52 Sir Jason Hoffman, and that was 58, 78, 55, 55 double nickels on the double nickels. Sir James, Jason Hoffman in Rosamond, California, double nickels on the dime. Call out dad Kip Hoffman from Milwaukee, wishing him a happy Father's Day. He says he hasn't donated for a while, but as Adam knows, immigration fees are no joke. Oh yeah. It's going to cost you, immigration per person, about $5,000. of which half is fees to the US government department of homeland security. Oh, it's a Dame bang bang. Happy Father's Day for Sir DH slammer $50 and 33 cents. Anonymous. Fairfield, Connecticut. Mom something I don't can't figure out what anonymous is saying. Jane Middleton and these are $50 donors Jane Middleton in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. First time father Mike Malaro.

2:20:57 Oh, that's from Mike and Jane from the pits from the Pittsburgh. Oh, Mike and Jane. Yeah, Felix Bell, Starchild. Yes, she's a Felix Bell, Starchild. Sarah Langhoffer Thawne. All the Starchildren live in Pittsburgh. In Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, once mentioned that her husband David Thawne, pronounced Dave Van Thone. And he loves the podcast, so he donated on his behalf. Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon, UK, 50. Laura Murphy in Tampa, Florida. And we have an Eric Hoover birthday coming up.

2:21:38 Dana, Diana, Diana, Diana Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington, 50. Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois, 50. Sir Mark Tanner over here in Whittier, California, and Benjamin Smith, all 50 in Oakland. So we go down the list now to see if there's any call-outs for Happy Father's Day, and we do have a few. Lauren Smith, happy Father's Day donation for Sir Chris Stan, how do you pronounce that? There was a way of doing that. K-W-I-S-S-T-A-N of Lincolnshire. I don't remember. Happy birthday. Happy great day, Dad.

2:22:14 uh... james nieder neem i heard to donnie myer another great he says he was a great dad who didn't kill us kids on cross-country car trips and when the with us we have a good night fester and i would say have his father's day to his dad's stew i investor and as you go down to the eleven dollars and honors we i said everyone who wanted to get a nice and i'm surprised more didn't John Storn in Hewitt, Texas, dad goes by Moon. Happy Father's Day to both of us and you as well, which means Adam and myself. Let's see, when is, is this a call out from James Ellsworth? I don't think so. Here we go.

2:23:07 Robert Vogel to Ralph Vogel is 84 in Huntington Beach. Nice. A Father's Day donation from Jason Lewis in Georgia. Father's Day, happy Father's Day to Joe Steffens. And a little girl was just born. Carlos Vasquez, I guess, oh well. Yeah, it's happy birthday to, or happy Father's Day to us again. Jeez. And finally we're getting down to the end, Mark Wasson to Jim Wasson in Aptos, California. Hey, brother, this one you could, this is yours. I can't, I don't know where you are on the spreadsheet, man. I'm on line 87. I don't have line numbers on mine. Bansushian Thea, brother. Okay. There's a guy in the UK, he has an Indian name, and he wants to say happy Father's Day to his dad, Raj Theagara. I think that's how I pronounce it. And now he should, he could be,

2:24:04 It could become Dutch and just make my life. It'd be much easier to pronounce the names. And I think that concludes. Let me go down to the bottom. I have one. This is from Nikki, Nicola. Good day Adam and John. I donated $73.20 which was intended for the Father's Day show 732 but it was called out during 731. I also sent a note in hoping that you could, would it be read on Father's Day. So here it is. This is for Errol of Ajax, Ontario. A Father's Day de-douching from the kids. Dad, happy Father's Day to you and John as well and keep up the great work. So I'll give a little de-douching. You've been de-douched. I think that's it, right? Yep, that seems to be it. If there's anybody we left out, which is always a possibility, please let us know in between now and Thursday and we'll do a make good. Dvorak.org slash n

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Branded Sealing Wax, Knighting Ceremony, Signet Rings

The "No Agenda" back office announces the production of branded red sealing wax for use with official knight certificates and signet rings. The hosts defend their American spelling of "honor" on the certificates as a "rebuke of the British Empire." Stephen Myers is officially knighted as a "Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable" following his $1,000 donation.

sealing wax· signet rings· knighting· stephen myers· honor· british empire

2:25:02 It's your birthday, birthday Oh no Okay, we have three of them. These are all from yesterday or were celebrated yesterday. Stephen Myers, of course, he will be knighted in a moment. His birthday was yesterday. Sir DH Slammers, a happy birthday to Dame Bang Bang who celebrated her bang and bang yesterday. And Laura Murphy, happy birthday to her fiance, Eric Hoover, also celebrating on the 20th. And we say happy birthday to you and happy Father's Day from the best podcast in the universe. Note from the back office. New ceiling wax is in production. This is for the night rings. When you get a night ring, you get a certificate.

2:25:42 Which someone tweeted, you know, when people receive these rings, the signet ring within the morning and hit them in the mouth and it's a beautiful piece. You get some sealing wax with it, red sealing wax, which apparently now Eric is going to produce branded sealing wax. This is nice. Yeah. Is he setting up a little, a little company there at the house? Somebody that brands it somewhere. You know, Eric has a new company. Hey, yeah, I got a new company. Branded sealing wax. It's all the rage. You never know. Yeah, and then we also give you a certificate. Someone poo-pooed our certificate when one of our knights, a new knight, tweeted a picture. It says, if you don't know how to spell honor, then you can't give out knighthoods.

2:26:24 because we spell it H-O-N-O-R. Yeah. Which is valid. We're Americans. Yeah. But then you're not allowed to give out night hoods. Now the whole point is we can do whatever we want. The whole point is we're trying... it's a rebuke of the British Empire! Thanks! We never used the U! Exactly! Screw those people across the oceans. Where's your sword? Not in Maranacha. Here, let me get it. There you go. All right. Stephen Meyer, step on up my friend. You, including one penny from us, have donated to the best podcasting university amount of $1,000 or more and very happy to have lunch with you soon here in Austin and pronounce the K-V-S.

2:27:03 Sir Stephen Myers night of the no agenda roundtable for you my friend We have hookers and blow red boys and chardonnay cheap wine and chili dogs raspberry pies and breakfast burritos pork ribs and pale ale bad signs of perky breasts multi-barley and hops dusts equies and Dutch dominatrix root beer and Legos three cases and a bucket of fried chicken vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider and escorts and mutton and mead go to no agenda nation comm slash rings Fill out your info and Eric will bring that to you right away. And I think he's probably going to wait with the new shipments for the branded sealing wax.

2:27:40 I guess we could catch on with the hipsters. Mm-hmm. We could use a little, uh... Daddy became the king of ceiling wax. That would be very funny. Eric DeShill, king of ceiling wax. Changes things about... Changes things that happen. I got a little, uh, Father's Day karma. He's a Mac daddy! You've got karma. Happy Father's Day to all the daddy-os. All the daddy-os. Oh, I got a clip here that was kind of interesting. You might like this. Mindy Kaling, she's an actress, she's promoting a movie, no idea what she's promoting, don't care, but she's doing it on ABC, the good morning shows, with George Stephanopoulos.

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

George Stephanopoulos Gaffe, Active Shooter Training Coincidence

George Stephanopoulos makes an awkward comment to actress Mindy Kaling about "feeling like you're inside an 11-year-old girl," which the hosts award "Clip of the Day." Additionally, they point out that a Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) "Active Shooter Threat Instructor" program was scheduled in South Carolina the same week as the Charleston shooting, calling it a notable coincidence.

george stephanopoulos· mindy kaling· active shooter· fletc· south carolina· coincidence

2:28:25 And this little segment here was just bizarre. Bizarre in the way he said something, bizarre in how she interpreted it, and the silence that, and of course, hilarity that ensued. The movie really is amazing. My girls were completely engrossed by it when we were watching it, because it really does make you feel like you're inside this 11-year-old girl. In a profoundly wholesome way. Wow all right you get clip of the day What an idiot, but she responded to it like what the hell that he just oh Man funny

2:29:24 I have something then. Oh, are you competing? You can't, you can't trump that. That's what we do on this show. Okay, that's pretty much all we're doing. Oh, one thing I forgot to mention regarding South Carolina. We always look at these things, it's kind of standard practice when we have, because as you know, it only happens in this advanced country where we have this frequency of mass shootings. Only in this, only here, only in this country. Then, you know, you go to the Department of Homeland Security website and you just, you know, they have a whole, let me see what is the name of this website. Yeah, they have the Active Shooter Threat Instructor Program, a training program. It's part of FLETC, the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. They have a pretty big one there in... Yeah, we should have mentioned this. Yeah, they have a pretty big one there in South Carolina. And they had an ASTITP, Active

2:30:20 shooter threat instructor training program scheduled for June 15th through the 19th so Gee, it's always just these little coincidences. It's astonishing. It is it always see maybe there's just training going on all the time But it's always coincidental when that happens well So I'm watching the deterioration of some of the daytime shows and I think a lot of it has to do with the real which has this uh... That's like the view only different? It's the view with the black women who are screeching and screaming and I'd still show I call the the five skanks or whatever which is appropriate if you've seen the show. Five skanks. Five skanks. Which would be a great show on Bravo. I think it'd be a great show. Hey everybody, welcome to Five Skanks.

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

The View Deterioration, Hilary Duff on Tinder, Vocal Fry

The hosts critique the declining quality of daytime talk shows like "The View," specifically highlighting a segment where Hilary Duff discusses being on Tinder. They mock the prevalence of "vocal fry" among the hosts and guests, suggesting the show has moved away from current events toward vapid celebrity gossip. The conversation notes that Raven-Symoné has joined the panel as a permanent host.

the view· hilary duff· tinder· vocal fry· raven symone· daytime tv

2:31:10 So the view's got this new woman, her name is Raven something. I can't pronounce her name. Raven? It's just so, I'm so Raven, remember that TV show? Wait a minute. So Raven. Yeah, I think I have, oh yes, yes, I have a clip of it. Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven! Give it up! There you go. Nice coincidence. Yes. So let's see, we got a clip here about this. Where is it? I believe she's gay. Okay, okay. This is a so Hillary Duff comes on Oh now Hillary Duff who hasn't it gets done an album for eight years She does a lot of acting she comes on and she is a wreck and she's got them You know the Vogel fry and ran up talking left and right and this whole the show the view has deteriorated There's such an extreme that was it the focus of the five or the view what what? I'm just saying that they're dead they see the real is the other show the real and

2:32:08 And they see that there's getting a lot of market share and it's just a bunch of these women that are just acting, I don't know, like they're nuts. And so they gotta up the ante on this one. So this is what the show sounds like now. Play the clip, Hilary Duff on The View. Please welcome Hillary You just walked out to your new single it's fire sweetie. It's fire on a website. Oops fire sweetie is fire So, nice fry in there, man. Nice fry. A lot of fry, a lot of talk in there. Got the whole thing going on. Now, this is the second clip. This is Hillary Duff. She apparently, they get into a discussion. She supposedly, I think she's investing in the company, but

2:32:57 She's supposedly on Tinder. Dating. Hillary Duff. Hillary Duff is on Tinder. That's what it says, but let's play it. On a website. Wouldn't that be wonderful? That was my website I created. That would be genius. That would be genius. Tinder. She's on Tinder you guys. And going on dates. Why? You really on Tinder? Are you seriously on Tinder? Oh my gosh. If you have ever sat with one of your single girlfriends that has tinder it is the most entertaining thing you can do it's hilarious You laugh and I never took it seriously and so many people I know were like meeting people becoming like married and From tinder and it's crazy. It's just there's always been such a stigma to online dating and you know I'm too busy right now to be

2:33:46 It goes on and on. This is the level of conversation. They used to actually talk about current events and now it's like Hilary Duff on Tinder and getting married. Tinder. In the morning. This is Sir Jeff Smith saying say no to vocal fry. The more you know in the morning. Please say no to vocal fry. Now, there's another show that the Food Network wasn't bad enough. And I know my pet peeve about the Food Network and its offshoot, the Cooking Network, is that it was Emeril Lagasse who made the Food Network work in the first place and they got rid of him.

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

Tia Mowry Cooking Show, Vegan Egg Controversy, Food Network

Tia Mowry's new cooking show is criticized for her lack of culinary skill, specifically her "tapping" of mushrooms rather than sautéing them. The hosts point out a contradiction in Mowry's public identity, noting she claims to be a vegan on Wikipedia but was seen cooking and eating eggs on her show. They lament the state of the Food Network and its reliance on non-chef celebrities.

tia mowry· cooking channel· vegan· mushrooms· quinoa· food network

2:34:27 Bam and they got rid of him and they got rid of they won't put him on the other show so they bring in all these lame People that can't cook now one of them coincidentally where we talked about the view and the real Is this woman Tina or what is her name? Tia Tia Tia what Tia Maori she is this absolute dead ringer twin, identical twin to the woman on the reel. It's very funny when you see her. TM Mowry you said? Yeah, TM Mowry, M-O-W-R-Y. She can't cook. And so she's got a cooking show, of course. Now, she claims to be this great cook, but when you watch her... By the way, you can tell if someone can cook when they're on television, if they can't cook. When you have a

2:35:15 a skillet filled with mushrooms and you're talking about browning them on both sides, and you have a wooden spoon and you're kind of touching the mushrooms, like tapping them. That's not how you cook mushrooms. You move them like a quarter of an inch and then you tap some other one, you tap it, you're just afraid to go in there and do anything. That indicates to me that you can't cook. How, and John? Chef Dvorak, how does one cook sautéed mushrooms in the official manner? Well, what you do is you have a sauté pan and then you get the mushrooms going and you flip them. Flip them, yeah. And if you can't flip, then you get a spatula and you flip them over by hand and you do it aggressively. You don't touch, touch, touch. What dish was she cooking? She was cooking

2:35:59 Okay, okay, the clip of this is all the people raving about this dish he cooked, which was the following. Some sautéed mushrooms with quinoa. Sautéed mushrooms, a scoop of quinoa, some kale chips. Whoa, nice. Crunch it over this and then an egg that was slow cooked on one side and looks raw to me. A sous vide egg, nice. And that's all in a bowl and so now she's gonna have her two girlfriends come over and they're gonna do their... Hold on a second, wait a minute. She had an egg in there? Yeah. She's vegan. How could she have an egg if she's vegan?

2:36:42 I didn't say she was vegan. It says right here on their Wikipedia page. At her New Year's resolution, she became a vegan. Tia Mowry? Yep. Not the sister? The sister. No, this is Tia Mowry on her Wikipedia page. She's a vegan and she has an egg? Yeah. Huh. Well, that's not right. Lies! Lies, I tell you. So here's what the... So, so, so, what passes for entertainment on a cooking show, instead of watching someone who actually can cook... Let's pause for a moment. This is what I love about the No Agenda show. You know, we can go from analyzing drug killers to, you know, banking to, you know, vegans who are lying!

2:37:22 Yeah, that's pretty much the truth. All right, hit it. Some Parmesan cheese. Speaking to my heart. Here you go, Natasha. Because I'm from the South, I wish you were first. Thank you. There you go. Thank you. I'm about to join you, ladies. All right, the big moment. Ready? Let's dig in. Try to get everything together. I know the perfect bite. Yes. Unbelievable my goodness, this is the whole show man. No, man I

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

Seared Tuna Recipe, Cooking Tips, General Dempsey

The hosts provide a detailed guide on how to properly sear tuna, emphasizing the need for high-quality sashimi-grade fish and a high-smoke-point oil. They discuss the technical aspects of searing each side for 30 seconds while keeping the center raw. The segment briefly pivots to a clip of General Dempsey discussing "stiffening the spine" of local forces in the Middle East.

seared tuna· sashimi· peanut oil· smoke point· wasabi· general dempsey

2:38:14 Bugs, bugs, bugs! Yes. Well, while we're at it then, do you want to do a little cooking segment? Sure. I asked you and we said we would talk about it on the show. I asked you after Thursday's show, what is the best way to prepare seared tuna? And we came up with a recipe together. I wanted to add in some mango and, you know, a little stuff on there. And, uh, but really I nixed the mango, didn't I? No, you liked the mango. You thought that could be good. You know, I was going to add something else.

2:39:12 I can't remember. We nixed it, so I forgot. But what is the true way to do...what do we need and how do we sear tuna properly so we don't die from E. coli, but also make it taste good? Well, you want to sear the tuna and keep it raw. raw in the middle. First of all, don't cook this undercooked tuna dish unless you're using sashimi tuna from a guy who knows what he's doing at a Japanese place. So you get the right cut and all the rest of it. You get a nice thick piece. I don't know, inch, inch and a half, whatever. Inch, I guess.

2:39:48 You just can do what I always recommend for these things, which is get a pan. Get it just hot. Wait a minute. Don't we have to put peanut oil in there or sesame seed oil? That's I think was the point that we wanted to discuss. Now, peanut oil, which has a strong flavor if it's the good Chinese peanut oil you would make Chinese food with. it's too flavorful for this dish. It would taint the tuna. You want a neutral oil with a high smoke point, which would be either a, I think, like a planter's peanut oil, which has no... It's not distinguishable from anything. I don't understand. The reason for different oil than just say olive oil is because of its smoke point.

2:40:31 Right, you wanted a high smoke point, which I'd say folio oil. You can look this up by the way, oil smoke points. Now there are some olive oils if they don't have any, it depends on how they were filtered. They were completely filtered like millipored. What causes the smoke in most oils is the pieces of seed. It catches on, you know, just starts to... Can I just... Can I do the next part then? Because this part I know of how to prepare. Okay. Yeah. So you put the oil in and you turn it up high and you want this thing hot. You want it so hot you want it smoking like the smoke detectors almost going off like, oh man, the smoke is going on. Yeah. And then? Then you dump, put the tuna in there on one side of the pan so you can just sear the crap out of it. What are we using for tools?

2:41:18 I use tongs. Tongs, okay, good, tongs. and I put it on one side, just get it so it's seared on one side. It's gonna take not that long, I would check. And then flip it over to the other side of the pan that's still super hot, the temperature hasn't dropped because of the tuna. And then sear it on that side. And then you sear it. How long, how long, how long? Eh, 30 seconds to a minute maybe if you really wanna get it nice and dark. Okay. And then touch the sides so it's all nice. So you pick it up with your tongs on the front, the top and the bottom, Do the sides? Yeah, then you grab the thing and then you do the sides so all the sides are seared enough so that there's nothing... And now, do we put any salt on this before we do this or pepper or any other spice? You could put salt on it. Pepper might get acrid if you use it at these temperatures. Okay. It's always a risk with pepper. Yes. If it gets too hot, it will get acrid. I hate it when that happens with pepper. It's another reason you want to... another thing cooks need to avoid very carefully is a lemon seed. Do not get a lemon seed in anything you ever cook.

2:42:17 What happens? It will ruin whatever it is. It just ruins it. So if I were invited on The View, which probably would never happen, but I would be in this cooking segment and I'd just like, just like, I'd have one in my mouth. Like, oh, it's really nice. I'd just spit the lemon seed right in. To ruin the dish? To ruin the dish, yeah. Yeah. If you people don't believe this, you can take a lemon seed and cook it in some oil. and then cook something with that oil and you'll see what I'm talking about. It also boils. It's just a disguise. So we've done this and now we go now it's seared. It's good. We've had salt nothing else. Put some pepper on it after the now. What do I don't know? I want to make some other flavoring. We just want the flavor of the sushi, the tuna, the sushi, tuna sashimi that I was thinking with where you were doing it that you can put some soy sauce over it and your little salad.

2:43:13 Yeah, but I was going to sauté baby spinach leaves. Yeah, that would be nice. That's actually good with soy sauce. Get a light, light, light Japanese-style soy sauce and put it, you know, spread a little bit or put the tuna on a pool of it, which would be kind of cool. And then I would also put some wasabi on the dish and make it sweet. Wasabi? Nice. And should we show this? So I want to put a mango around there with the baby, sautéed baby spinach leaves just for some little more complexity. I thought you had something else besides a mango you were going to use. Yeah, well you shot me down. No, I thought I was shooting you down with the mango. I mean, I think mango would work. I just don't, I'm not... I think you were against the balsamic vinegar on the mango. Oh right, you were going to use balsamic vinegar and I thought that might be a little much.

2:44:04 Well, great. Bon appetit everyone! Another tip, another cooking tip. Oh Chip, we didn't say anything. Well it was better than that stupid vegan view thing. Woo! Amazing! Oh my god, Chip, it tastes so good! Here's a clip. I don't know what set him off, but you can tell he's a little annoyed by a specific word. This is Dempsey. This is the leprechaun known as Dempsey Giving testimony former. Do you still wear his uniform? Yeah, he's still in business I think they haven't bumped him yet. I would not recommend that we put us Forces in harm's way simply to stiffen the spine of local forces if they if their spine is not Stiffened by the threat of ISIL on their way of life. Nothing we do is gonna stiffen their spine and

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Donald Trump Campaign, Unemployment Rate, Bigly Rhetoric

Donald Trump's presidential campaign is discussed, with the hosts praising his "authenticity" regarding the real unemployment rate, which he claims is 18-20%. They debate whether Trump used the word "bigly" or "big league" during a speech about Obamacare. Media figures like Chuck Todd are criticized for attempting to marginalize Trump as a "sideshow" despite his high social media engagement.

donald trump· unemployment· obamacare· bigly· chuck todd· neil young· gop

2:44:59 And if your spine is stiff, do you then have a stiffy? What is it? Stiffing. Stiffy. Stiffen. Stiffy. Okay. My favorite candidate, I received a lot of hate mail. Hate crimes, I call them. hate crimes against me, against humanity. People telling me to rip my head off and urinate down my neck. Who said this? Oh, emails. About what? Tweets. What'd you say? That I said Donald Trump would be my guy for president. Oh yeah, definitely. Because he's entertaining. I have two Donald Trump clips here just to show you. Why don't you do your clips and then I'll do mine. Alright, first of all, I want to use this one clip to prove that Donald Trump agrees with me on the

2:45:44 unemployment rate play the Trump on unemployment. But think of a GDP below zero, horrible labor participation rate and our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it. That's right a lot of people up there can't get jobs. They can't get jobs, because there are no jobs. Yeah! Go DT! So he nailed that. Now this, I've got it, there's this other clip which is Trump in the new word. He's got a new word. Nice. And this, I don't have it, I'm telling you, he said this twice. The second time I caught it, the first time I let it go and I should have gone back and found it again to prove he did it. He's saying this word a lot, but tell me if you can spot the word. Very good thing.

2:46:30 But Obamacare kicks in in 2016. Really big league. It is going to be amazingly destructive. Doctors are quitting. I have a friend who's a doctor and he said to me the other day, Donald, I never saw anything like it. I have more accountants than I have nurses. Did he say big league? Yeah, he said that twice. He said it once earlier. He was using it as a noun. It's bigly. Oh, I thought he said big league. Oh, maybe he's saying big league. Let's listen again. I thought he said big league. Like it's big leagues. It's the majors. Big league. Very good thing. But Obamacare kicks in in 2016. Really big leg. I think he's saying either big leg, which I don't... It's not like big leg. Let's call it big leg then.

2:47:27 I like bigly. Let me finish this little segue then. Let's just agree from now on we use bigly as a word. Bigly. Whether he said it or not, it's a good word. I like bigly. So let's put him, let's discuss him as a candidate on the news hour. No, no, no, wait. Let's have a meeting and marginalize him on the news hour as best we can. In fact, let's try to not even say his name if we can get away with it. And let's just hope to God this guy goes away. The other fellow was, you know, Donald Trump. If he had took the first person singular pronoun out of his announcement it would have lasted about four minutes. I mean it was a great testimony to the unimportance of humility in national politics.

2:48:16 I don't think he's gonna get any air. I think the field is so rich that he's gonna be squeezed out. I think he'll just be a sideshow, which, and barely noticed, except on a really slow news day. You know, it's interesting- That was it, by the way. Yeah, no, it's interesting you bring that up. I have two clips. One is from, this is from, this is Chuck Todd, and he's going to marginalize DT. In just 24 hours, Donald Trump has generated more Facebook buzz than any other Republican. He's gotten into a spat with a New York tabloid. And singer Neil Young fired back at Trump, saying he wasn't authorized to use rockin' in the free world during his announcement. What an a-hole! He's made it clear he has no intention of abiding by Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment. He will speak ill of other Republicans. I think Bush is an unhappy person. I don't think he has any energy. And I don't see how he can win. Though Republican candidates don't want him taking their spot on the debate stage,

2:49:13 None of them are eager to confront him. NBC's latest poll shows three-quarters of Republicans say they won't support him. But he is channeling the anger of a loud minority in the Republican Party. I like the fact that he has a plan. In 2012, the Obama campaign believed Trump turned off swing voters. When we had a photo of Mitt Romney coming down an airport staircase with the Trump plane in the background, it was the perfect backdrop. Going into 2016, Dems are licking their chops at that backdrop again. Yeah, well I think the Dems should be careful what they're licking.

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Morning Joe on Trump, Human IED Theory, GOP Debates

The "Morning Joe" panel provides a surprisingly fair analysis of Donald Trump, describing him as a "human IED" who could destroy other candidates on the debate stage. They argue that Trump's populist message resonates with millions of Americans who feel ignored by the political class. The hosts agree that Trump's fearlessness and wealth make him a dangerous and impactful force in the 2016 race.

morning joe· joe scarborough· mika brzezinski· donald trump· gop debates· populism

2:49:53 And this was a very good piece on Morning Joe. This is the show with former, is he Republican? Joe Scarborough? Yeah. I think he was a Republican. Republican. And Mika, a New World Order child of Brzezinski, Mika Brzezinski. And they got their whole round table there. And it was an incredibly fair and I'd say somewhat complimentary segment on Donald Trump as candidate. I think the commentary that calls him a joke is nuts.

2:50:29 He is saying the things that millions of Americans shout at their television sets every night. He's saying it with authenticity. He is a cultural icon in this country. There's 350 million of our fellow Americans out there. He's a unique person. He's been in the public stage for four decades now, since the 1980s. He has a very successful television show. He is a master showman. And there is a strain of populism that is ascendant in the Republican Party. And you hear Donald Trump talk about these issues, they're going to resonate with large sections of the Republican base. When we look forward to these debates, let's say Marco Rubio is answering a question.

2:51:15 Who are the people watching the debate going to want to hear from in the next question? Are they going to want to hear from Scott Walker? Or are they going to want to hear an answer from Donald Trump? He is endlessly entertaining, endlessly fascinating, and he has the potential to be very impactful in this race. Let me tell you how he's dangerous also. And again, everybody can say what they want to say, but if he focuses and he does well, He can get a percentage in a 20 person field that makes a difference, but this is how he's dangerous. This is how he's dangerous and it hasn't been reported here and we're not picking on George Stephanopoulos, but this is how he's dangerous to other candidates. He doesn't play by the rules. When he's on the debate stage and he turns to Scott Walker or Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush and hits them not with something mean-spirited, but searing and truthful that nobody else in polite political society would say,

2:52:09 It can shape a race. And so all these people saying that he's going to have no impact, they don't get it. Who is the candidate on the debate stage that's going to be able to take him mano a mano? He's fearless. The elite opinion about him is that he's a clown and a joke. A lot of things he says don't withstand scrutiny. A lot of things, if you fact check, these claims he makes are not true. But you point out correctly, he doesn't play by the rules and he's not afraid of anybody. And that makes him really dangerous. He is a human IED. I think the point about Donald Trump is this. In a field where there's 15, 16 candidates, you have an iconic cultural figure who's running for president with vast amounts of wealth.

2:52:49 who is completely fearless, who on all of these issues that he is talking about There is resonance with them with huge swaths of Republican voters in these early primary states. And so when Donald Trump goes out there at a time where trust is completely collapsed in every institution in this country, and he says, hey, I'm going to fight for you, the regular guy. I'm going to fight for you regular Americans out there that are struggling, that are getting sold short by the political class in the country. It's a power message and he can be very impactful. Everybody talks about Trump being a joke and he says a lot of things obviously that are that are crazy but you don't become a billionaire, don't become one of the top developers in New York City, you don't have the best-selling one of the best-selling business books of all time, you don't have one of the most successful TV shows of the past decade, you don't graduate near the top of your class at Wharton if not the top of your class at Wharton all by mistake. So all I will say is right now

2:53:47 at the beginning of this campaign people who think he's a joke and a fool need to be careful because by the end of the campaign the joke may be on them. There you go MSNBC. A little long. So people are upset with you for supporting Trump? Yeah you know what it is? He has all those billions of dollars why can't he fix his hair? Like well you know it's a staple. It's a staple. It's a staple of this. And these are people who, you know, it slips in, you know? They're like, oh Trump, you know, it's crazy hair. I like the guy. I think he's entertaining, he's not dumb, and he does, he speaks truth to power, John. The thing that would be interesting, it would break the bank or the budget of the Secret Service. Have you seen his family? Yeah, he got a lot of wives. Well, he's got like a lot of kids from those lot of wives. Well, that's what you do. Yeah, well, he's got a lot. Yeah, it tells you something. They're all good-looking people, generally. I think there's one homely kid in there. Yeah, well, that was the adopted one.

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

2016 Election Cycle, Economic Collapse Theory, Show Outro

The hosts conclude the episode with a prediction that the 2016 election winner will be a one-term president due to an impending economic collapse similar to 1857. They suggest that a "great" president, possibly Trump, will emerge in the 2020 cycle, following historical 40-year patterns. The show signs off with a montage of "bomb them" clips and a final reminder to support the show via Dvorak.org/NA.

2016 election· economic collapse· elizabeth warren· ronald reagan· cycle theory· sign-off

2:54:52 No, I think I think it's possible. This is a long shot because I my thesis is of course you have to have a Democrat female Democrat in for this next election, right? And I still think with Elizabeth Warren Okay, because you want that the economy is gonna collapse and then you get a Republican in and it's always a Republican that shows up Reagan showed up in 1976 and they were trying, you know, there was a big movement to get him to, uh, and he was running for president in 76 and then he got marginalized and the dumb actor, screw him, you know, and all the rest. And then he got in an 80 and this could happen with Trump. Trump could be the 1980 guy.

2:55:33 So he would be after Hillary, her one term? Whoever comes in next is one term because of the economy will collapse, it just has to. And it'll be very similar to the 1857 crash, which was the first official depression the country's ever gone through and it was just a mess. The books were written. It's the first time books were written about the economy. They were so low, the Depression of 1857 is the title of one of them. And they're still around. I mean, it's just not like reprinted recently, but you can find it in certain libraries that keep their old books. This is what's gonna happen and you're gonna end up with somebody in 2020. It could be Trump. I thought it was gonna be Scott Walker. Because he's, I think, the only real talent that's in there even though he's seen as a union buster. So to put it into terms and perspective, Hillary wins one term, then it's Trump for three terms.

2:56:29 No, not you That's not that we'll love him so much. We'll keep him in the new world order We want to keep him in and he'll be considered because that cycle that That cycle matches with Reagan and Roosevelt and FDR and Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt and George Washington. If you go on the cycle, which is every 40 years, the guy who gets president at that moment becomes always seen as a great president. And it's like clockwork. And the president before them, like Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, all these guys, they're always seen as losers. And this is what's going to happen. Whoever wins in 2016 is going to fall into that category. You heard it here first on the best podcast in the universe. And with that, we conclude our broadcast day. People look all across Gitmo Nation. Thanks for listening, friends. Keep your hand in your pants and reach for the stars.

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2:58:46 Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again, eh? Hey man, fist bump. Hey citizen. We need to kill them. We need to kill them. Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh?

2:59:25 Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them, bomb them, and kill them! Bomb them, bomb them, and kill them! Bomb them again, bomb them again, we need to kill them! Bomb, bomb them again! We need to kill them and bomb them again. It's just incredible. So you take your hose and you roll that sucker as far in as you can get it and then some guy, some dude behind you is blasting you with his hose. A couple of guys. Oh, it gets better. Yeah, so you're getting blasted so you can stay cool. It's really hot.

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