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00:01 Okay, we're taking it. We're stopping the show and I'm going to talk about this Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday February 5th 2015 and time for your good Monation media assassination episode 6 9 or 3 This is no agenda Looking for kick-ass video editors in Jordan and coming to you from the crackpot condo on the capital of the drone star state Austin, Texas FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where let's see. I have a paper jam in my printer. I'm John C Dvorak Okay, I thought I'd go with the ironic anti-climactic introduction. It's all it's always a winded new one you just dreamed up It's always a winner Man well you were right John. I have to say you were right all these years. I've Denied climate change decline no No, but uh I am a neat freak aha yes

01:08 So Virgos, let me explain. Virgos are supposedly traditionally kind of OCD very neat freaks and I've always said no i'm not because I make messes and it's not anything to do with the virgo-ish although most Virgos I know... It's supposed to be a Virgo trait Well, okay. It doesn't matter you so that's even better because you identified my neat freakishness yeah without even Coordinating that with With the fact that I'm Virgo and I guess I didn't know me until I stopped marrying My mother every single time now. I have to do all this myself oh man

01:52 What? I'm... It's really good. You're a quality neat freaker? It's really bad! What do you mean it's bad?! Well, like-I'm always like oh there's this spot let me clean it up. Oh so you are- It's bad because it is so obsessive. It's very obsessive Yeah that's what I said! Aw man, okay the toilet roll is not-it's almost all the way down. I'll just replace it. Is it over the top or underneath? It's somewhere in the middle, but leaning towards over the top. That's impossible! However this is good and this kind of brings me to a topic that has been in my face ever since you brought it up The Dvorak Collective about me doing a Hot Pockets tour Oh you mean with the... Did we talk about this on the show or after? No this is our... Well the reason everyone has been emailing me about it Is because we talked about it on the show Ah! Yes

02:48 about me getting an Airstream and driving around. That'd be great! Well... And you being a knee freak, you could actually do this! So this is.. You know the problem is most people like myself would have we go on this thing in within a week the Airstream would be a mess And you'd have to be meeting people a lot. Many times, you probably have a little coffee or something in the Airstream and humiliate yourself. The guy would come in and go, Oh man this guy is like a slob! Screw this show! Right? Yeah but you would be like wow... Umm..and by the way it'll have to be Hot Pockets The Tourettes Tour I think that will be better Shake in the USA

03:36 So a lot of people for some reason, and we have a Facebook group that is an in the morning Facebook group. And there's a subreddit and people like yeah this is great I have no idea why they think this is so great for me like somehow in my sorrow and my pain and wallowing I'm supposed to go be alone on the road And another visit to Suicide Hill. Are people romanticizing heartbreak? Is this how it works, yeah I gotta go on the road... The idea before you broke up and i think people would still respond positively because he is as if you're a type of person that rambling man. Ramblin' man! Well here's what I want to say about this. I think it's a very good idea

04:23 I think there is a time that the time in my life that i could actually do this for an extended period of time and go out and drive around would be now, in this year. I agree with that however at this very moment You know, considering the things I'm learning like my neat freakishness and...I need a little bit of a stable environment for a bit here. No no no! Yes yes yes! That is a stable environment. It's your full-blown responsibility. No no no. You gotta drive you gotta buy gasoline you got to clean up the trailer. You've got meet people you've got get out. No no! I'm not ready—you have no idea this is—I need

05:05 You know, I... It should only take me a couple months to get my feet back on the ground. Well it'd take you more longer than that to find a good Airstream! Please won't you? Help me get my feet back on the ground Won't you please help me? Help me, help me We can stop that at any time Ringo! But i'm thinking around June or July but I have some shit dumb stuff to wrap up here like you know closing down stuff. Okay, so maybe I didn't tell you to jump in a trailer tomorrow and take off like a maniac no but I do want people to really serious...I think it should not be an RV

05:49 I think it should be an Airstream that I drive along. Yeah, you don't want to drive around in an RV all day long. You get the Airstream and park it at one of these places and then unhook it and go driving on your own. You can drive around without having to have a damn trailer or RV big thing clunkered so you can't park. Exactly! Okay good thats out of the way Okay, and then the airstreams are you know they're recyclable you buy one And you pretty much it doesn't depreciate like that RV's and some of this other crap. I'm gonna be yeah This true well It's just it's a project we're working on it people can start thinking and there's a lot of push for Hot pockets Europe hot pockets down under

06:38 So stuff to think about but I just need a couple months just yeah, it's okay. Okay Thank you. Thank you for understanding okay? My printer didn't work so I can't print out the Many clips I have for today hmm Do you want to do something about it or are you okay no? It's okay when I'm gonna everyone so I'll get up and try to try to unjam it well something really big happened and It was so big that I really... we need to talk about this right off the bat today. This new ISIS, ISIL-IS video which will just call that Burning Man. Holy crap!

07:23 I got the original version of this video. I'm sure people by now have at least heard about it, although many of you have not seen it still very... This is probably the hardest one to find although that is changing a little bit now actually here's um... It's very easy if Fox has it posted! Yeah, I was gonna say Fox just posted this. It was posted couple days ago actually yeah and they but they are the first and so far as I know the only ones No other Murdoch properties have posted this. Here's actually the way Shep Smith, he described the entire video to us We're not going to show you the video It's 23 minutes plus that video and it shows the terrorists burning a Jordanian military hero alive I'm going to tell you about it All of it every bit of it. I watched it over the last hour Not because I wanted to I absolutely did not

08:19 I watched it because i felt like those of you who want to know what's on it but don't want to watch it or be subjected to some sort of gruesome descriptive adjectives. Which is, of course what we have identified...is the media was so gung-ho You could put dead Palestinian children on television. That's not a problem, you can show dead kids lying on the beach that's not a problem you can show kids burning up and you can show all of these things but when it comes to this video which is such an important one we can't show that to you. Well if they were honest about it said we could show you the video but it's so boring and its 22 minutes long where news stories only last about 60 seconds makes it impossible

09:05 Yes, it's boring but the actual... The part of the video that is important is the burning. Yeah And and the whole setup and everything and I've spent a lot of time on this and I sent this to number of video professionals people who do a lot of video and unanimously they all said This Is A Very Expensive Production multiple cameras, really a... it had to be a modern-day Hollywood budget. And yes, bear with me I'm telling you this was directed this was well thought out ahead of time the consensus is 97% there is no one that anybody I know

09:58 in the Middle East, who could create this the way it was made. This is not their culture, this type of editing... No I agree with that. You've seen you've seen uh middle eastern TV, they got the graphics and stuff but it's a different flow. It's scrap. Yeah it's a total different cadence everything. This is a western-made piece from what I've been able to deconstruct. This was probably actually made IN Jordan The uniforms, which are so new of the... ...the so-called ISIS ISIL executioners in the video. They're still... the creases are still in the uniforms! Everything is just completely...

10:41 pristine, you look at holsters and these are the exact same uniforms that the Jordanian army uses. The only thing that's different is instead of the Jordanian military patch on the arm there's just a little small square velcro where the patch would be. I didn't notice any this way and only i'm going to... This is the last time I use this Only a neat freak would spot this stuff. Yeah, well yes true and then I really looked very I Played it over and over and over again couple things that a couple other things So we have the open if you have not seen this video the full 600 megabyte thing is gonna be in the show note six nine three dot no agenda notes calm because deconstruct it all you want

11:26 We have our hero, our Jordanian pilot hero walking towards his demise in this beautiful slow-mo view. This is so... Overdramatized is the correct description of it. Yeah, because of course this is what you do when you know You're gonna be killed. You walk and you yeah how you doing? I'm ready to die right you don't try to make a run for it now And then you have this cage which has no bottom I mean It's not like if I were on fire I wouldn't try to I don't know lift the cage Which then we see demolished which looks like the hokey piece of crap little two years Yeah This where the thing as far as I am concerned was sketchy

12:12 First, the guys on fire that could hold cages on fire. They got kerosene everywhere I guess. Beautifully done! This was almost...I felt... It was a Hollywood movie style action. Quentin Tarantino style with the cross inside the cage with the big the dramatization of this long, this wick. It was like a Tarantino thing and it was very much like he may have done it and so they as the guys burn into death or is dead I guess and they bring in a big half loader yeah whatever they're called I don't know but wherever they bring

12:54 piece of road gear in there and dump a bunch of rubble on him and smash the cage, And then they run him over. That's the part that got me! They run him over with his big piece of gear... And it's really the big lies that are ones that are overlooked I mean all these little details but the big lie is this is not how anyone would react normally if they're set on fire Particularly with this and what this cage is just ridiculous now So there's two styles of video that we have seen in the past several months, that we have been looking at. We have the traditional beheading video which doesn't really show a beheading. We got Jihadi John green screen orange jumpsuit and it has a level of production value which is so easily debunkable with you know stills of heads on bodies which is clearly poor work It's just a still so looks more like the head has been photoshopped on

13:51 onto the body, onto the back. And then we have this style of video which we saw earlier but really didn't get any legs that was the one where it was you know deconstructed to be a like at 12-hour shoot with all kinds of continuity issues but where they supposedly shot these prisoners execution style which you also don't really see But I think that this was that there is a full-on production, and this is probably episode two. There may be two or three more that were produced in this style and it really doesn't even matter if anyone...if the guy was the real guy or not, what was meant to happen is now taking place game is now on finally we see the strategy

14:42 Jordan is going to go take out Assad. That's it, that's what this was for... ...that's the whole reason for this high-end production for this... I mean can anybody? The reason why news organizations don't want to show it is they know it's fake! They don't want to be culpable for lying and contributing to this next thing that's going to happen Come on, Jack. Everybody who's... They don't want to be a stooge? Well I don't know whether they're going to take out Assad that's a good idea but the coincidence between the Jordanian king being in Washington exact same day that he was... Exactly! He has been called by a lot of observers and we have pointed this out well let's listen to MSNBC who is all-in on this of course and first we have

15:35 Let's see. This is the armed services chair, mr.. Chairman What we've seen is another element of? The endgame of a cult of extreme violence and an insanity actually from Isis with yesterday's burning to death of the Jordanian pilot how How would you propose to combat this element of violence which is so extreme to be preposterous? Well, in the short term I think there are two things we've got to do. One is to support the Jordanians Our committee met with The King yesterday This is a coincidence He gave us kind of laundry list Things he needs like fuel and munitions And equipment and expressed frustration that it takes so long for our bureaucracy To get something approved to get him Now this is very important This is important! This is the chairman of the Armed Services Committee

16:40 saying, you know we have to expedite. We got to get him stuff and training and...we already have thousands of troops in Jordan Of course I mean fly from the air bases in Jordan look at the map see where Jordan is kind of right there to go into Syria So that's a first and immediate step immediately secondly I think we need to support Look for some kind of immediate measure maybe even an executive order or something to get that going without legislation and President el-Sisi in Egypt when they try to encourage other national leaders and Muslim clerics to reclaim the Muslim religion.

17:18 And to isolate these people who have distorted it so much and in a way reduce their recruiting appeal. Finally, we've got to accelerate our efforts in Syria and Iraq the best thing We can do is to show some victories here versus this cult as you say which is really still Got the momentum even though we've been bombing them from the air for several months. This is so perfect now It all I'm even thinking they might have had two teams as there was setting this up just to you know competing teams for video just whoever could Produce something that whoa, we have a caller hello your call 100 on z100 what's the phrase it pays? If this is

18:13 And of course Jordan has always been in strife with Syria and Assad has always been quite worried because you know, Jordan is the stooge for certainly for the United States. And we're right on the border there and we need someone else to do it We can't do it for a whole bunch of new reasons that pertain to Russia mainly we can't be seen as us doing It has to be Jordan this Now we have, this is kind of funny just to show you how all in everybody is. This is Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia who was he starts off kind of funny.

18:52 This funny same clip I have oh really this one. Let's see well. Let me just say to our prayers I think from all Americans all West Virginians for sure Do you have that one we wanted it all the West Virginia left that part out? Their prayers to Jordan go out to the Jordanian family of their pilot and older West Virginia don't care about that trust me Indians because It is a horrific situation That we witnessed and basically have seen You know we were privileged to see to talk to King Abdullah yesterday before he left the Armed Services Committee. And with that, I think our resolve should be to give them all of the military equipment they need to do their job and get it to them as quickly as possible, break down barriers and red tape. That's what we heard. Let us engage in this fight. We'll take this fight." Not one time did I hear King Abdullah ask for ground troops

19:41 But we need the expertise that we can to make sure that our support for them has the efficiencies it must have and have the expertise. With that being said, I think you're going to see today very quick movement from the Armed Services Committee in how we deal with getting equipment quicker than they are going to be needing. You saw a little bit when McCain was the armed services guy in the Senate? was grilling the new Secretary of Defense, who by the way seems to me to be a bit like a droopy dog bonehead. I have that clip too Yeah, he's asking about one thing or another but this theory of yours which I'll put in the red book by the way. Which is that the Jordanians are going to attack Syria They're going to take out Assad and I'm more specific about this. Okay they're gonna go in to supposedly get ISIS but they're gonna take out Assad somehow Yes We will have to see how that evolves

20:38 a good possibility. I like this theory... The only reason why I'm so, besides the obvious things we're hearing now from the Armed Services Committee So much money went into this video. No one wants to show it on television because they know They-they, they know they do not... no one wants to after the fact have to say yeah Yeah we kind of knew that was going on This is big John! This is someone produced this shit people know about this. This is this is not um I can't believe that we're not seeing people on television deconstructing this saying, oh my god look at how well this is made. No! This is what stupid people particularly Americans take as real they look at this and say man that looks real because it's what they're used to. This Hollywood is big... Yeah I want to remind people go back and watch Wag the Dog. Oh please and how much better is this than Wag the Dog?

21:39 Oh, come on. This production is insane! It's mostly graphics moving around. Bullshit John bullshit this is not easy to the sound design alone. Who said it was easy? I didn't say it was easy... To me it looks like a it looks corny amateurish. Really?! The burning sequence looks... I'm not talking about the burning sequence, i'm talking about the 20 minutes. Who gives a shit about that? Propaganda! I don't care about that no one cares That is an important bit the important bit is this highly produced burning sequence That's good shit if we had made that at Mevia we'd be like high-fiving

22:21 It died with the burning scene is quite good. I'll give you that it's but you're looking at burning scenes from Hollywood yeah, we think the classic why was looking for one where they are similar or though Yeah Where the guy my favorite used to be when? Cisco and Ebert both had their shoe in there both alive and did the show together They used to have a segment of their movie reviews called Dog of the Week and they had a little dog there with them called Sparky. And The Dog of the Week was generally speaking, a movie that came out with a guy on fire running through the street it was kind of a riot. Right! And they would show a lot of these guys running waving their arms and running around in the street totally on fire everything about him. There were elements to my memory of those scenes in this video because

23:10 If you see, there are real videos of people on fire and they're not like this. This is the part... It's better than those, than the real guy on fire is not as... But this what I'm trying to say is that whoever is doing this, whoever wants this push which as I said, I believe it's to have Jordan be the fall guy to take. Of course its gonna be us you know we'll be trainer and advising whatever of course its gonna be us. So the Russians probably already know that too they're going to have a counter player Yeah but this for UN...this has to well I think there is something there but this more for just for general consensus so we can say what is them because this is for public in this video somebody is so smart somewhere

23:51 To say, you know what? If we really want to make this believable we gotta do Hollywood. That's what people believe! And I guarantee you that people seeing this if you just did one of those man on the street things they'd all go, that's real because this is where were at This is where people are...this is what were used too It's...woah By the way Brian The Gay Crusader cracked me up He said this is, this whole thing with his fake Hollywood sets for doing terrorism videos... ...is almost lifted verbatim from a Max Headroom episode. Which was series one episode five and I watched it! Yeah the script is kind of what we're living through right now interestingly

24:39 Actually, Max Hedrum should be on the movie. Which I think is better than the TV show. Oh the TV? It's horrible to watch! Well it's not horrible... Yeah it is, I watched it again as a kid. Well I guess it is but whatever the case is The movie was fascinating and they had an evil little kid hacker that was much better portrayed in the movie People should check that movie out, its short and kind of fun In the plot summary of Max Hedrub season 1 episode 5 War Producer offers to sell Network 23 exclusive rights to an urban guerrilla group's terrorist activities during a crucial 24-hour global ratings period sweet period. Network 23 declines the offer next day, the group blows up an entire city block but only rival network breakthrough television has the coverage it's good it's interesting um

25:28 Here's McCain, also on MSNBC. MSNBC was all in they were this is all they were talking about. There's no doubt about Jordan there's no doubt about there's a new king in Saudi Arabia you're gonna see a much more active Saudi Arabia involvement I hope but it still requires American leadership and that's missing. Ah! American leadership of course we need to be the leadership but will let these guys take the blame for anything that happens. I find this to be one of Most important things that's happened in this whole Syria Conflagration conflagration conflagration Yes, you'll get it. Yeah

26:12 I think we can just sit back and wait. It's just going to happen, this is it. They've been waiting... Well they got to get their ducks in a row first which means you gotta get some money, some checks signed. And I noticed this without you mentioning it and I did have a lot of clips from MSNBC but Andrea Mitchell had Kuala all coverage of this I can see this being all in she's a courses studio stooge big student There was one huge and I didn't clip any the I mean, I had him clipped but then I never edited them because they were just it would seem to little dull but Person after person after person kept going on and on except McCain Kept going on about boots on the ground not happening. It defected theme The meme was this

26:56 Oh, you know these are the next door neighbors of these countries. Why do they want us to get involved? We don't need feet on the ground because yeah if it was Mexico or Canada we would be important to us but that's what these people should be thinking is their next-door neighbors that have all this problems there They're the ones who should be boots on the ground and we can help them And that's exactly heard that over and over which fits in with the entire messaging It's so perfect. And this will this will be the degrade and ultimately destroy it's gonna take a while I agree Someone's gonna you know, they're gonna throw up some kind of blockage whatever but it sounds like the Armed Services Committee is ready to go We have another at least one more maybe two videos ages we have couple more videos cool stuff Yeah one at least do I was looking at

27:41 Randy Carvin, what's his name? The former NPR guy who now is at First Look. You know the tweeter guy? Yeah, what about him? Carvin. Yeah so he has a... He now works for Pierre Drive My Car! Oh does he now?! That's great I'm glad to see you got work. And they do the Reportedly. It works it's called Reportedly. The Reportedly team. Reported dot L-Y team So what he has is a bunch of people twittering around and then they put that on a medium blog or something. And I just thought for a guy who was all in on tweeting, retweeting everything... He's the tweetmeister! Everything on social media is true

28:25 So he put a post up today, the slideshow begins. A trail of flame traveling across the dirt from right to left like a scene from the movie where the bad guy or maybe with a good guy leaves a thin trail of gas... The flames consume him, a waxy human wick melting then going up in smoke There is no way in hell I'm going to share this footage with the public! What the hell? Why not?! He said that? Yes, it's in his post. This is verbatim! There is no way in hell I'm not going to share this footage with the public there is no consensus What makes him high and mighty he can see but we can't Here comes...there is NO CONSENSUS on the role graphic imagery should play in journalism Really?! WHAT!? He says there's no consensus all caps on the role graphic imagery should play in journalism

29:16 For some it is an absolute taboo, for others a necessary evil to expose the evil in others. For me? I've usually come down on the latter side of the argument." Wow! Yeah... Talk about arrogant. Uh-huh. Of course this is all Rita Katz we know that she somehow isn't making this stuff. Rita makes fire from the site intelligence group Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see. Kirby actually had something funny before the... I think this is ummm.... Before all the Jordan stuff cranked up. And Kirby looking a little disheveled This is Rear Admiral Kirby who's the spokeshole for the Pentagon. And this guy he just has funny little phrases that he uses which I like. Yeah, I have a whole series of phrases that I want to talk about later but you might be starting it off for me. I'm gonna try. Ahhhh let's see do we have him here?

30:19 How do you think the Pentagon, the United States and the coalition will respond to that killing and to the killing of other hostages? We haven't made it a and I can only speak for the United States military. We haven't made it a point to respond directly to These killings even when these were American citizens were killed oh, but I don't think the military actually makes decisions I think they can execute Decisions that are made but okay what we have done and will continue maybe that's changed Maybe I'm behind you do is

31:01 uh, degrade and destroy their capabilities and continue to put them on the defensive in which they still remain today. Uh so there's... I wouldn't at least from an American military perspective i wouldn't look at this as a united it's not tit for tat. Tit for tat! There we go A good one from Admiral Kirby. Tit for tat is that a military term? Well, I think the Marines use it a lot. Tit for tat? Yeah that's an old phrase. Well, I got one too that is kind of interesting this is the clip which discusses... You finally have your list printed out? No, I've got in front of me on the screen. It's still printing. Luckily I kept all these on to one page if you notice little 38K, 80's, the little bitty clips. It may have been triggered by this or not but this is the long clip on ISIS video editor

31:58 Which is worth listening to and because of what you already said, but let's play that in the very end. There's a there's a curious usage technical sophistication As propagandists of these terrorists as you analyze this how do you go about? Trying to authenticate these videos well look Well, look there we know that this came out from the particular source it came out from just because of the way it was released. But one of the questions is who puts together these videos? And I think he answered by the way... I'm sorry? The technical source which in which it was released and he just babbles about right and this is where we're getting a lot of by the way. Right This is and that's the site intelligence group Yeah So this guy knows He already knows It know but if you notice the way says that he won't say it No

32:48 Do you want to get killed? This is big business You don't want to be running around saying hey by the way Rita Katz does all this shit She's hiring people in Hollywood. You know what I say that That is a good way to get wax it was released, but oh you know one of the questions Is this I didn't say it either by the way who puts together these videos And I think the answer is you have to look at this from two different perspectives One is that though the way that technology has evolved Even with a laptop computer these days, if you have the right software, if you have Final Cut Pro or similar packages. You know, you don't have to be an entire news team put together what looks to be Hollywood quality and in fact this is what this appears to be. I mean it's got very sophisticated special effects on this video

33:31 On the other hand, special effects. Yeah hold on a second yeah that would what he the only special effect would be the slow burning and the slow motion a little bit that's a little bit of special effects but to me special effects is a little higher end than slow motion just saying special effects implies that it's its special effects it's not fake who is this guy? He, I can't remember now. He said they she introduced him at the beginning he's one of the many CIA guys that come on these shows. Interesting. Okay. What looks to be Hollywood quality and in fact this is... And i just have to take exception with what he's saying no you can if yeah you can have the software you could have After Effects and all that this was multiple cameras this was someone knew what they were doing

34:21 I got Final Cut Pro, I could make a movie. Uh-uh uh-uh no this was a bigger production. This appears to be an excuse... It's got very sophisticated special effects in this video On the other hand you know you do have some talent or some experience and one of the questions has been who exactly is behind the scenes doing this on behalf of the Islamic State? Is it just some nobody who happens to have computer expertise or familiarity with this Or is somebody who may once worked in a newsroom May have one for videos or created videos And has joined isis and it's now using those skills to that regard Anyway, yeah you get the picture I do but the thing about this was to he said at the very end to that regard Yeah, so that kind of usage. Is this yoga say well? I don't know I'm gonna go to the thing to that regard isn't it

35:15 Is it what? Tell me what it means. What does that mean?" I'm going to try, give it a shot... When someone says to that regard in that form, in that spot of what he's talking about, It sounds like he is just confirming that he already knew something and explaining not trying let you know that he really already knew and therefore uses to that regard Yeah. Something like that, I think it's just more gobbledygook that we're getting from everybody in the government and I looked up the worst case scenarios is Josh Josh Earnest? Yo, God. This guy is illusory I can't watch him anymore He's painful Play this one This is a Josh Lyte...this says John-like effort This is somebody else but this is another...this is the kind of usages that are getting on my nerves and I want people to start identifying as they come out Play this John like effort Countries in the Gulf whom they had hoped might be able to effort the release of this pilot

36:15 That's all it what is that? Yeah, that's it. That's it They want to effort the release of the pilot What kind of sentence is that let me hear that that's interesting hold on a second I wanna hear that again Effort the release countries in the gulf whom they had hoped might be able to effort the release of this pilot Huh So they're turning everything into, you know...they're just turning words around. The word effort as a noun and a verb it's like why are you doing this? To effort the release! This is all government talk this is all if you were in one of these agencies that's literally that had to be something written on the prompter

36:53 that is just written that way because CIA talks like that or whoever in the Pentagon speaks. Yeah, no, somebody talks like that and they're writing stuff. That's the point. Now here's another interesting use this is Josh Earnest and this is he uses it I've never heard anyone use this and we have to actually do a little work and look it up and see how its used if it even makes sense play Josh Comend To. Okay hold on One other thing I want to also mention is, uh...I wanna commend to your attention a statement from the President's top counterterrorism advisor. Commend? Commend to your attention! I want to commend to your attention That's weird What kind of English is this?! It-it's ummm....I would say it could also be legalese They're getting real careful about how they speak That's what I would think

37:51 To praise formally or officially. That's not what he is using it as, entrust someone or something to I want to commend them this to your attention. I want to entrust you. It's bull crap! Entrusting me? He wants you to read something instead of saying I would like you to read this. He says I'd like to commend to your attention which is wink-wink nudge-nudge This Is The Truth No, it's just wink-wink nudge-nudge. I'm an idiot He says it again try this second clip of him saying command. I would certainly come into your attention the statement from Man, okay. I guess it's the same clip. No no no no no It was different yeah command. I want to come in we'll do the two clips here the first one One other thing I want to also mention is I want to commend your attention a statement from The president's top counterterrorism advisor clip 2 I would certainly commend to your attention this day and from

38:44 That is kind of different. It's different because it is certainly in the same clip, so he uses okay he does that So now he does this one This is the next one Josh disdain now how does that how's this usage fit into the scheme of things? Why do reporters put up with this And we're gonna continue to stand with them even in this very difficult tragic time did he just say disdain with them We're gonna disdain with them. Did you say disdain or distane? I think he said this day or D stain. I don't know. Let me listen again. Oh, my second. This is oh man what are you doing this is crazy stuff we need to work on this and we're going to continue to stand with them even in this very difficult tragic time now why does it sound like what the hell are you talking about they don't want to seem stupid

39:35 I don't know. Here's let's go on with some of this crap looking up disdain i looked up this guy by the way just to say so he is most of these like uh carney was a editor of the of the top publications yeah the mainstream he knows how to reporters english yeah this guy is a political science grad from some university after going to what looked like it's actually a girls' school that was a private school and they went to the... And he got a political science degree, and has worked in the government ever since. He's never been a reporter or an editor or anything so he speaks like one of these... Like an idiot bureaucrat who doesn't have good command of the English language. And it's getting on my nerves." That is probably one of the reasons you don't like listening to him. Yeah. Let's play Josh informed by experts

40:26 Okay, this is a process that's been informed by experts. This is the process that has been informed by experts. The process... What does that mean? Oh okay! This now removes any culpability from any person because the process was informed by experts not the people creating the process no the process is its own entity and This is legalese, John. They're getting ready and nobody wants to be holding the burning stick or whatever it is." Now this you're reading too much into this guy is a moron that's the problem and he's using these words I've seen they...I work for the government I see these guys go on and on and say nothing and use it as cop talk cops speak like this You know when their testifying but not even if you meet with them they treat like this It's just the way they talk all the time

41:21 It's not like they turn it on and off, and this guy I believe talks like this all the time. Here is another little annoyance that I really have always hated this. And this start...I haven't heard it for a while although I think it was sneaking into Carney's language. I think he may have quit because of this because he starts to see himself speaking like this play that Josh put forward Josh put forward she made reference to the fact that the opposite of the office of the director of national intelligence Put forward a report today Yeah, he submit a report and I put it forward. Yeah Take it on his desk and move it up little bit more what he did put 40 put it forward Okay, you see put it for now your nitpicking

42:04 You hate this guy. I'm not nitpicking, this is what we have to endure, this kind of thing He's not even saying anything! This doesn't mean anything! And the White House is going to turn into a bunch of bullshit artists Oh wait a minute, what am I thinking? Okay, we can cancel this segment They already are bullshit artists In all your years on Mother Earth, have you ever seen such bullshit in the White House? Actually no. No right sad especially with a Jared woman she was sitting right next to Obama's is going on about the hell go VJ 44 VJ 40 for so that's her Twitter handle Oh God yeah

42:43 So I have one other thing with Josh, we just want to play it. I'm noticing that he has...there's a certain style of his speech which i'm going to document because I've got a couple examples of it. Of what is called like half up talking where you kind of and everybody speaks this way Susan Power, Susan Rice speaks this way Samantha Powers not so much but Jared speaks this way and there are other people who worked in the Oval Office Amongst the staff there they speak this way. We need to kill like this Kill them, okay? They would that's strictly Fox all right so play the Josh EPA climate and up talking where we're the last word he says is up talked but it's not as a certain kind of Chicago up talk is the only way describe it and

43:31 And it's, I'm hearing it more and more and more. with this assessment of the Keystone pipeline today, saying that it would indeed have effects on climate change. Doesn't this basically show that the President's test on whether or not to approve Keystone will not be fulfilled? Well I did see the letter that was –that EPA put out today. I'm not going to comment you know on this process at least the substance of this process until the State Department has concluded their broader review about to determine whether or not this project going forward is in the national interest. So certainly, the President has laid out his own clear criteria about how he believes the project should be evaluated and as part of the process of collecting input from relevant agencies across the federal government, EPA put out their own supplemental environmental impact study. I've noticed this and I think... Study?

44:34 Yes, I think this is whenever he or anyone else for that matter in a briefing is reading from the tabs as reading from the documents and they're trying to make it flow like they're just speaking but no kidding nobody. I think that's where the where the up talk does half-up talking comes comes in because they're trying to be really trying to read verbatim because it's all day has that would explain it but I've noticed this cadence from other people. He's just doing it to annoy you! Well, I'm getting annoyed. Did we play the chart of path forward? No, no. I'll play that to chart a path forward. I don't think so see we'll help turn a path forward That's a statement that's written by somebody will char yeah Yeah, I'm sure it is written. I'll start a path forward yes What does that even mean right? We're gonna get bring a map maker in yes Yeah, we're gonna get a quill and some ink and we're going to chart. We're gonna go sextant

45:37 and we're going to chart our path forward right into Assad's living room. Let me... Are you done with Josh? I'm just telling you, I'm not a lookout. This guy has gotta go! He will don't worry. Back to McCain of course we had the hearings the senatorial hearings for the confirmation of Ashton Carter as the replacement for Chuck Hagel. Holy crap, when he comes out he looks a hang dog... Yeah He looks like a bureaucrat loser Well he's a shill if he was there to do whatever he is told to do which was the problem with Hagel because Hagel was annoying and not for himself a little bit And for people who were gonna get killed But he still had that hang dog look too Well he got beaten down into submission That's why! He got beaten They said you're resigning or we are going really kill you Or something The guy is sad

46:32 McCain and Ashton Carter. I think the... This is on the strategy for ISIS, ISIL IS advertising. A strategy connects ends and means, and our ends with respect to ISIL needs to be its lasting defeat. I say lasting because it's important that when they get defeated they stay defeated And that is why it's important that we have those on the ground there who will ensure that they stay defeated once defeated.

47:19 It's a different on the two sides of the border. This guy is so funny, but he knows He's charted the path forward He knows what's going on we need Jordanians to be there on the ground But we're going to you know be Advising it will be advisable. It's one enemy, but that's two different contexts Mr. Chairman, Iraq... Mr. Chairman, in Iraq the force that will keep them defeated is the Iraqi security forces That's our strategy is to strengthen them and to make them that force On the Syrian side not to take too long about it we are trying to build the force

48:13 keep them defeated and that's going to be a combination of moderate Syrian forces and regional forces. Okay, let's just deconstruct that. Moderate Syrian forces which is just such a contradiction in war terms and then regional forces which is Jordanians Well, it sounds like... It doesn't sound like a strategy to me. But maybe we can flesh out your goals. So this may not take very long. I don't know, it could take months and months but I think depending on what happens in this Armed Services Committee and whatever power they have... What can a committee do? Can the committee just say let's do something now? Can they make decisions like that? No, they can't do anything. They have these committees so that when the session of Congress meets or their writing up a bill, the committee comes in and says no, there is no good you can't do it this way. They're like oversight. It's like oversight

49:19 whatever they're investigating and the bill-making process. So, if the Armed Forces Committee says no to like something like some funding it just never gets anywhere. It doesn't go anywhere. It won't come out of committee. A lot of these bills when they write a bill, a lot of them go into the committee so that the committee talks about the bill and then they can kill it or vote on it or whatever and send it back? Well for sure...if this doesn't do it, but this isn't enough, if they don't feel this is enough for some kind of additional action because we already have thousands of troops again in Jordan It's about money. Money has to be sent, money must be sent that is the bottom line That is of course also so we can sell some stuff Military industrial complex stuff Woah hello? And these guys have threatened all the pilots Yeah the pilot are like ohhh I thought it was a credit roll at the end I saw it

50:15 I don't want to fly anymore. They're threatening me this is a pilot so react that way, but now But the the country's may have to upgrade mm-hmm their equipment Yes, too So they avoid getting shot down you know what you got shut down so upgrades are not cheap when you two things We need an excuse me We need a no-fly zone. That's the...we needed limited no fly zone and I think this is the next step, United Nations Security Council. This is how we did it with Libya as how works. We get a no fly zone once we have to know fly zone then were moving forward so this may be strategy with this particular video to get the no fly zone. Well, the no fly zone if that actually happens would indicate that it has to do with Syria more than anybody else you're right because there

51:00 The ISIS people, I hate to remind everyone have no airplanes and they can't fly one if they did. They got no ships. All they've got is Toyotas. Don't they have magical flying Toyota's? Magical Toyota's Oh which reminds me just as a little intermezzo Do you remember the magical shape-shifting Jews? Yeah, a tongue twister if ever there was. Yes. The magical shape shifting Jews that are now apparently being blamed for the attacks in France We have listeners! Yes... where?!

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1:10:14 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. You know, I find the relationship between the left-wingers in this country and the Koch brothers rather...I'll use this word abhorrent. The Koch brothers began as anti Vietnam War activists and then they evolved into modern libertarians and they're very libertarian in their views on everything.

1:10:50 almost checklist libertarian, and they started the Cato Institute and the Heritage. A lot of these groups were started by them I don't know how active they are but it seems to me that their background should be pretty much right in line with the progressives But just, I think it's just because they're connected to a private corporation that has oil. That is bad. They're bad automatically. Which and they make diapers. Oh God no! Which are made from oil? Well some of them not... Yeah of course plastic. It was plastics hello

1:11:31 It's it's petroleum products. That's what I should that would be more correct well Well, so this there's three main things that I see going on actually we need to take a little break John We do have a brand new month we have presidential proclamations. I'm all ears hey There is by proclamation it is American Heart Month which seed anything special Oh, of course we had the National Wear Red Day on February 6th. We missed that. Oh no! Yeah...we missed that one. Then it is...let's see...oh! Why would they have a wear red day? To commemorate and to recognize the heart. It's stupid so moral self-licensing ah by war red I'm done i don't have to help out

1:12:26 Everybody feels good. Change my Twitter icon, bingo! Boom shakalaka good to go And hello African Americans you get to share your history with American Heart Month which I think is a slam down American...African-American History should be...should have its own month Shouldn't have to share anything But there it is So is it? No. For generations, the story of American progress has been shaped by the inextinguishable beliefs that change is always possible and a brighter future lies ahead with tremendous strength and abiding resolve our ancestors some of who were brought to this land in chains have woven their resilient dignity into the fabric of our nation and taught us that we are not trapped by the mistakes of history

1:13:17 It was these truths that found expression as foot soldiers and freedom riders sat in, stood up, marched and agitated for justice and equality. This audacious movement gave birth to a new era of civil and voting rights... ...and slowly we renewed our commitment to an ideal at the heart of our founding No matter who you are or what you look like how modest your beginnings are the circumstances of your birth Kenya! You deserve every opportunity to achieve your God-given potential Ha! We slipped god in there good And then finally, if that wasn't enough... It is National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month! I didn't know- This is a new one. National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month Wow There's a website loveisrespect.org or vetoviolence.cdc.gov

1:14:17 Alright kids, your president says... What's he got to do with the CDC? It's a health crisis. Well then go to the public health department of health. I don't know, CDC sets the standard for what constitutes everything so... Shouldn't? Yeah well it's how it works and they'll make it up So this, it took me a little while to figure this one out. It was very, very annoying and has been going on for a week or two and all of the sudden it just exploded this vaccine issue. It started with the Disneyland thing that's where you saw at first we played clips... I got a clip here for you for this topic that you're gonna discuss which is Josh on measles. We got Josh's back! I would love to let me lead into Josh on measles

1:15:08 So I'm seeing the story after story, after story. And it turns into the story about anti-vaccine and it turns into maybe making vaccines mandatory so it's an every, but just it's exploding on the scene. So I have an insider now. Yeah. I called nurse Tracy and she helped me figure because I'm like is there some measles thing that isn't really all that bad? Is this an epidemic or are people in hospitals freaking out? She said no Okay, let's hear Josh. I had to speak to the president about this issue shortly before the briefing and he was clear that we don't need a new law We need people exercise common sense

1:15:46 The federal government does not need to establish a mandate for vaccines. Just recommendations and advice to states and parents on the side of this. What the president is saying, we shouldn't have too that the science is clear uh and it is it is irresponsible for people to not get their children vaccinated not only because it puts their children at risk of getting the measles It also puts at risk The children, other children in their community if it's infants who are too young to get the vaccine or children who have compromised immune systems that they can't get the vaccine. So people need to take responsibility not just for their kids but for the kids in their community. All right let me make one thing absolutely clear to everyone within the sound of my voice

1:16:32 The politicians talking about vaccinations and measles do not give one shit about you or your kids. Not an iota! This is a full-scale attack that's interesting because I think this isn't something that backfired, this is all about the 2016 election. This is only to make Republicans look kooky Make them look super, super, super kooky. Here's an example we start with CBS. Interesting to hear the debate in the Republican Party you had most top Republican lawmakers saying yesterday and very clearly from Senator Rubio that vaccines work they protect children there is no evidence that it causes autism and then you have Senator Rand Paul saying first on CNBC he has seen it cause mental disorders in children and then he has backtracked that statement what's going on in the party? But you have The Wall Street Journal which you write for now

1:17:26 Really taking on Chris Christie's comments yesterday, today taking on Rand Paul calling this the weird science of Mr. Paul and Christie's and their lack of information. Are you surprised Peggy that measles and vaccinations are part of the political conversation number one? And number two does it damage anybody's chances are you surprised? So this could first of all Rand Paul they kookified him He's out. He can never run for president again, this is going to haunt him where everyone... I'm not gonna disagree with this but this is not my interpretation of what's going on Finish yeah, this has been politicized. This is Ben Carson now This is CNN eyes now you see a couple of smart guy running potential opponents coming out and it seems as though the Republican Party Has a problem with science that they're always pushing back against science in here once again ran Paul he says vaccines are good but he's pushing back as if

1:18:22 the government should be making all these decisions. Chris Christie, sure he corrected his statement as well as Rand Paul but he was pushing back that it shouldn't be all about the government do you think that is wise or is it pandering? Well first of all I have to challenge the premise of your question because in California the majority of the cases are coming from Democratic strongholds so I'm not sure if I would characterize it as a problem with one party or another but I will characterize it problem of lack of information about, you know, Martin's studies. I'm not saying that Republicans are getting sick more. I am saying that they're talking about the sickness more in ways that may not be productive for example what you say about well maybe people being introduced? That sounds like code for illegal immigration to me is that a point you're trying to make or are you trying to make the measles situation into an immigration argument

1:19:19 It's not code, and I'm not trying to make it into any particular argument. I'm stating what the facts are. The facts are that there are people in our country who have become lax in terms of their vigilance for getting their kids immunized and we have people coming in who are not necessarily being properly screened." This is where got interesting now one more clip and then I want to hear your take on this Carson here, who is a medical professional alludes to this being a California liberal type thing. And then I caught this Don Lemon with Frank Bruni who writes for the New York Times

1:20:01 And this is why I don't understand if this, who set this up? Who or what opportunists came in to take over this and elevate this to make...I think so far it's making the Republicans look loony. But really if you listen to Lemon and Bruni who are totally on the left side they'll say that it's a natural people ie Berkeley, Berkeley type folk. You write about this in an op-ed it's called the vaccine lunacy okay? You said but what's in play is more than one affliction right one afflictions resurgence the size and the sway of the anti vaccine movement reflect a chilling disregard for science or at least a pick and choose cafeteria approach to it that's also evident for example in many Americans refusal to recognize climate change

1:20:50 You think that these are the sort of natural people who are promoting this and really people of privilege who are promoting this? Well, yeah you mentioned those issues. Interestingly I think a lot of the anti-vaccine people probably would hate to hear themselves lumped in with the climate change deniers but they're doing the same thing from different places on the political spectrum they're basically saying when my gut is or when what I want to believe is different from science, I'm going to go with my gut and what I want to believe over science. And I think it happens across a spectrum of issues. I think it's a problem. Why are we seeing so many parents? Especially parents... When you think about the natural crowd wouldn't you think that these are more learned people maybe I'm wrong. Learned! Some of them are yeah but I mean uh I think learned as a term can work in a lot of ways they may be impactful of a lot of information they may not be that bright about the way they process it but you used the phrase all-natural and a lot of these people are the all natural crowd

1:21:40 If they really want to live all natural, are they getting dentistry for their kids? Are they getting orthodonture? I mean all-natural. When we lived all naturally go back far enough We were dying at 30 and 40. I don't think we really want to live all natural Well that's good well here's what's going on the way i see it In fact, I get the biggest kick out of these local stories because all our news channels have... Oh! A measles case is found in Marin County. I had a clip actually couple shows ago for this because my comment about that is that when I was a kid they didn't have a measles vaccine everybody got the measles and it wasn't a news story.

1:22:16 John got the measles. So they bring up this measles, they make them out and out of them all. Your friend Tracy says the same thing it keeps that stays in the news focused on measles and then it gets picked up by the political stations which have to make everything political. They blame it on the Republicans. The Republicans stupidly get involved and that keeps it whole thing in the news. And what is since we're talking about vaccines? We're talking about science and all the rest of what one little fact is left out of all this as it boils and boils in the republicans are now involved in our risk backtracking that's bull crap that just happened by accident this was a concerted effort by the pharmaceutical companies to do to distract as a distraction of the week is other ones with the money they can promote these kinds of things and make me sad and all of us at me so the big story and get elected dude do its own thing which has done you

1:23:07 found the political side of it, to distract everyone from the simple fact that the flu vaccine this year does not work at all. There it is ladies and gentlemen there it is no it does not work! And nobody mentions that during this discussion if you haven't noticed so nurse Tracy who works with them Dying kids it's a fun job She when she started to work here this in this hospital She had to get a booster for measles because you know It'd been so long that she I guess it goes with the effectiveness wears off. He says She've been about all kinds of stuff didn't catch any measles She's around sick people sick kids with measles whatever he didn't catch any measles

1:23:54 The insiders in the medical field are very skeptical about this. And I think you're right, I think that it was a distraction. I looked at another angle to other angles of course...there was a lot of talk about mandatory vaccinations making it mandatory which is a very... Dr. Osborne 2 Right and if you listen to Josh Earnest he talks about that and he said they don't want to do that and I think they don't wanna do because it would really cause a backlash. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Big backlash. Do we have that clip? That's the clip we play when we played in there. We got it, we got it, I've got it. Let me see... The other thing for the politicization of it August will be National Immunization Awareness Month which will be perfect you know that'll really be leading up to the elections and could make everybody seem... Is it going to be in August? Yeah. Well elections are still a year after that

1:24:55 I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean this anti-this thing is, i think it works to make it sound as though Republicans are anti science and there's a bunch of old toe genocide around. I don't believe this is true! Steam engines are good enough but they but they...I think Rand Paul he got screwed on this one Somebody's screwing him. You know, Rand Paul is too casual and by the way he got screwed anyway He got screwed with his appearance He is not a good looking...he is not a presidential looking guy He's a creepy-looking guy let's face it He's a creepy-looking guy that just slightly untrustworthy And he talks with that strange voice

1:25:31 that I want to discuss in a future show. You know what was the best thing I saw about this? Let me just say this, that strange voice curiously is the same cadence and style voice as Glenn Greenwald Oh. Same pauses, same pregnancy here and there and the way he rolls the words out it's like an accent of some sort. Both these guys and their accents from where? Never seen them in the same room at the same time never seen the same photo. This was my favorite meme going around for this ant and this caught on so quickly

1:26:12 People, people love doing this crazy kooky Republican you nut jobs where really it is quite honestly a lot of liberals who are just behind on schedule and just forgetting. That's the facts we have those facts from from the organizations themselves about people not being on schedule with their kids I love the Roald Dahl stories You see that? No Some people, I'll read this to you. This is from the Washington Post but it was everywhere some people seem to think measles is a nuisance disease irritating and briefly unpleasant but otherwise harmless for many It's not so bad for others the measles is serious and potentially fatal blah blah children Then we have Roald Dahl The renowned author of Boy Charlie in the Chocolate Factory Matilda and scores of other books and screenplays lost his daughter Olivia to measles in 1962

1:27:06 In 1988, about seven years before his death he wrote a poignant plea which I'd never heard of and never seen before. But here it is... Olivia my eldest daughter caught measles when she was 7 years old as the illness took its usual course i can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it then one morning when she was well on the road to recovery i was sitting on on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of colored pipe cleaners And when it came time, when it came to her turn to make one herself I noticed that her fingers and mind were not working together and she couldn't do anything. Are you feeling alright? I asked her. I feel all sleepy she said In an hour she was unconscious in 12 hours...she was dead. Geez! And so because of Roald Dahl, I'm like wow my god this is Roald Dahl?! I never heard this story

1:27:59 Well, I don't think he would be making it up. He may have... No. ...sick if he was. They just got deep man they got deep for this. Well there's money in the vaccine obviously. And then they well yeah and i was thinking also the Ebola vaccine you know they're gonna hand that out oh i had a great note from somebody about that wow let me just grab this for a second hold on this was from one of our producers i have it here Producer Nick, a few months ago a friend of mine from the army was going to Africa to help with the Ebola outbreak. I laid down the no agenda knowledge on him he argued against it but was open-minded about what i was telling him probably because I'm not like Alex Jones and don't scream It's real in people's faces

1:28:39 I give disclaimers that i have no knowledge of what truth is. Well, he just came back from his tour and now in a three-week quarantine He sent me this message out of the blue Dude! Next time im in New York we have to talk off the net This whole thing was... interesting Let's just say almost everywhere else I went outside of the capital getting ETU facilities had less than one case of Ebola in the entire country So we will be getting an update from producer Nick soon as he speaks to his guy on the inside, which I've been saying this is... The military is not there to do anything for Ebola. No no And then they brought back this Andrew Wakefield thing and... Pretty much action with oil Oh yeah oil and a resource of new oil in West Africa and poor leadership just boots on the ground Boots on the ground

1:29:37 I got an interesting note, and we both have it. I'm looking for it now from the Japanese guy? Yes! The one about... About what the Japanese public's view of this is. We don't have any confirmation of this. We do have people in Japan who can confirm this. But essentially he says that the Japanese We're not on you know they these two guys that were I have it here. Okay, read it Please and he has a New York Times he references in New York Times article About how the Japanese feel about this and he says I disagree with this article in Japan most people don't seem to outrage even manga which are their comics suggest that we Sent us a little copy of it Suggest the public feels like the hostages took a chance to be involved in that part of the world. In the comic you see here Isis gives Japanese, Japanese a warning and the Japanese public basically says and he said basically

1:30:34 Aren't you responsible? Meaning, aren't the hostages responsible for going to the Middle East and getting captured. And why do we have the responsibility for paying all that money because you made that stupid mistake?" That's the attitude maybe not everyone thinks this way but I think it's a general attitude so i feel The New York Times article is a lie! It's a lie he says and of course this is all just coincidentally comes together with Abe changing the Constitution so that Japan can now militarize something they've... we're always very proud of not doing and not being involved in war since World War II, and now of course Japan coming back into the fray thanks in part to this. It's just these videos are great! You pretend to kill one guy and then everyone goes back to war. It's phenomenal. Just phenomenal. The way it works.

1:31:30 So anyway, whether it was set up ahead of time or not the clearly the legs that this measles vaccine story has is just being used to make to kookify people. Kookify! Well that's but this is gonna go on they've done this with climate change they've you know every day Republicans are all crazy yeah and they republicans are gun nuts so the women...you know? This has been The fact that the Republicans can't take any defensive measures to stop this or reverse it... They should just give up. They should just start a new party, this is ruined. This is good they need to start over I don't know what their problem is but it's ...I don't know that they even know this is going on Well a number of them are just stupid The problem is a number of them are recognizably nuts and the Democrat Party is nuts too but you know yeah this is so much better

1:32:25 Come on, it's great fun to say they deny science. End of story! Deny science is the end of story if nothing left to say. Just deny science. The joke of it as well... Yeah? What's the joke? Okay what we do have to make one mention short mention at the Super Bowl Yes, wow. Super Bowl was this last show and we I predicted it was gonna be a jip at the end yeah wise but not by any officials methodologies by stupidity right again the Seattle team which should have won because they had Spectacular ending that should have brought them the winning score And then they threw the ball away by stupidly throwing a crossing route

1:33:12 two feet from the goal line in the middle of a tight defense. Okay, that makes sense and maybe it was thrown I don't know here's what i think and Vegas by the way lost their ass um vegas never loses okay A lot of people they take that the chunk in the middle they if the best come in for the other side They change the odds and here's what I here's What I think happened you know They got into a fight They got into I saw this they Got Into a fight Because this was not supposed to happen this way. And they all went, dudes! What are you doing? You can't win- you can't win this game?! We're supposed to win!" That's what I saw. Why else were they fighting? Why else were they fighting!? The fight was just a poor sportsmanship. No no no there was money involved in that Those guys got pissed off like, why did we smack you around boy

1:34:12 You ruin the whole idea! Well, you know here's the interesting point to that theory which I'm now going to subscribe to. Since we believe these games are all rigged i have to accept this theory on...I just have to accept it. Just have to accept it. You must accept it. Because of no agenda thinking The guy who made the interception was an opportunist. He was a rookie, who was not clued in on this. What are you doing? Don't catch the ball! Moron! Exactly they've screwed it up and according to the coach Who is now going to be ruined for life he said that well this play was supposed to be an incompletion

1:34:56 It was a play that we, it was a throwaway. I'm thinking when he says this that he's just an idiot but the more i think about it yeah and he's claiming that he's gonna throw a play away now there could be all kinds of reasons for doing that and then they were going to run Marshawn Lynch but the guy intercepted it and screwed up everything It's possible that yeah, I think that this is good an explanation for what happened as any have ever heard if we are to believe and we kind of believe that it's all rigged. Made for a great game made for a great ending the game was terrific especially at crazy catch at the end with a guy the ball bounced off his stomach and hit his legs. That was a great game was fun to watch. And you know watched it didn't watch the whole thing

1:35:44 I went to the end. Yeah, so the end but i went after the show i went to a crystal class oh okay that's okay We're taking it were stopping the show and we're going to talk about this not gonna talk about it I got it. But it was what would you what is you? You did show we wrapped up the show, you had to get out of there real fast and when were doing our little finishing let's pick a just pick some art Let me take a title that I gotta get out of here It was not like that rush over and I said where are you going And you say I'm taking a crystal class Where you learn the energy of the crystal yes, and she God who rules the universe something like that I can't remember yeah

1:36:27 Exactly. And then you shot out of there and you went to the crystal class and you said, this will be great show material that's not that great. It was fun though it was me in 15 girls? 15 women yeah young women we sat in a circle And did they tell a secret and share it? I told the secret. Everybody was like, well, I'm here to learn about the crystals and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like hold on a second this is the romantic heart crystal session is not this is...I read that this was for people who are heartbroken here I am but I want my crystals show me how to use them! And they all went awwwwww.... I got three numbers at least so Who's This Guy

1:37:14 Got three numbers and I'm friends with all of them on Facebook now. It's just hilarious Oh fantastic I will report on my my crystals after I've evaluated them for a little while Well, you actually got yourself a batch of crystals that are wearing around your neck No no, no You can put one of the you could put in water and the other one you could I left my the names of them over in the kit. I can grab them if you want, but yeah Hold on say here with this crystal you put in water hold on

1:37:52 And it gives off the vibes of the universe into the water, this precious water which absorbs the energy of the crystal. and then I slip into the tub with bubble bath I might add and lotsa candles all around me! And the energy of the crystal flows through my soul... It's the candles that'll kill you Okay, I have um Just for a second This is okay So we have the pink kunzite which opens the heart on all levels so it can receive everything from a sense of stability to profound connection with the universe. Kunzite? Yes And where is it documented that does what you just said On my card, but my favorite is the rhodochrosite Rhodochrosite This is the one you put in water

1:38:42 So it's RHODO. Yeah, I get that part. R-O-C-I-T-E. Rhodochrosite enlivens dull senses provides an immediate sense of bodily awareness assist in overcoming negative self talk or destructive relationships promotes physical vitality and sensuality Is it pink? Yes Yes, especially useful for transcending physical trauma relating to accidents or abuse. Returns users... Yeah well actually go on. It returns users to their body and provides a sense of enjoying the physical. You are out of your body? Oh yeah can also have a flirtatious or vivacious effect if used with that intent. Pink rhodochrosite is a strong stone to aim

1:39:29 Eight emotional healing it encourages you to feel love for yourself. Yeah, that's what I mean It's energy will assist you in meditation To reach a state of joy and sublime happiness Incas believe they may see its energy may stimulate your inner child You mock me bring a deep childlike happiness enjoy in my life you mark me age To bring deep forgotten memories to the surface for healing listen Incas believe rhodochrosite was blood of former rulers hardened to the stone and revered it as a memento mori. There you go It's a pretty stone when it's a big giant crystal cut and sliced very pretty It looks like it looks exactly that leaves this picture. It looks exactly like a beet It does all right, so did you just mock me fine at least I'm trying something new Trying something new

1:40:23 All right, let's talk spinning was nutty enough Yeah, I'm gonna try yoga next to oh well. You probably need the flexibility I think yoga will be nice. I mean you're gonna try yoga next yes What's wrong with that lots of people do yoga John? No? I think it's fantastic if you said yeah, no you said yeah, no you say yeah, no Yes, maybe I don't What I was actually hoping to do a count with it with it? Got a clicker that it was gonna. You can click on intelligent numbers. I wouldn't I gotta get this yes, no thing really limited. I don't need everyone in the email or the explanation for the yes new and they I don't need that. I don't care about you just need to get rid of these are how its usage is developed over there's I don't like using it. I want it gone. He just needs help stopping. I agree yeah maybe some crystal.

1:41:20 I shall ask the crystal. I will ask the Crystal Lady! Yes, see if i can be more aware of... Here's what I will do. I will post this in um... In the Crystal Facebook group? Yes, group now you might want to try The Garnet because The Garnet helps you focus on what, uh...on your strategy for your you know to win your war and this could be your is this what you got? You got some garnet? I've got a garnet yeah. And it's right here. I use the garnet for the show to inspire me and protect me huh who should use yours who should use this road whatever it

1:42:07 It's common for many people to evade certain issues, even though you know that you feel a deep sense of mistrust of some person at a gut level. This strong reaction in the gut or within the solar plexus... Fine fine fine let's move on To the biggest lie of the week which I found so beautifully covered up and pasted over this Brian Williams lie This is great. Yeah, here's I have a couple clips and by the way but i want to make sure that we remember that it harkens back to the Hillary Clinton. That's right Hillary Clinton lie exactly the same idea well actually this is a little more little rougher here is a lie one. We started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG

1:42:56 Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armored mechanized platoon from the US Army 3rd Infantry. Okay so the discrepancy here is that his helicopter was not actually hit by a RPG but a different helicopter Here's line number two Ladies and gentlemen during the Iraq invasion U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major Tim Turpack Was responsible for the safety of Brian Williams And his NBC News Team after their Chinook helicopter was hit and crippled by enemy fire. Fantastic! So somehow this comes out that he's full of crap, and then he comes up with an apology our Brian Williams does? On this broadcast last week in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire in- I'm sorry did you have a question?

1:43:43 No, I'm saying he's already setting up and he has an excuse for doing this? Oh yeah. On this broadcast last week in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire incident in the desert during the Iraq war invasion, I made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago it did not take long to hear from some brave men and women on the air crews who were also also

1:44:27 This was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran and, by extension our brave military men and women veterans everywhere those who have served while I did not. I hope they know they have my greatest respect And also now... My apology. Epic fail! Yeah! And just to show that he's full of crap i found A segment from him on David Letterman in 2013, lying again. We were in some helicopters what we didn't know was we were north of the invasion We were the northernmost Americans in Iraq. We were going to drop some bridge portions across the Euphrates so that 3rd Infantry could cross on them Two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one I was in No kidding! RPG and AK-47 What a liar

1:45:22 What a liar! That Letterman clip is the one that closes the deal on him. Oh yeah, he's a liar. He's a sack of poop liar Yeah he said well it was just an accident I was trying to honor some guy and then he goes on Letterman tells the same story only exaggerates it we're way ahead if everybody else were dropping you know some bridge components so you know as always not are hit by Missile and RPG and he was not only hit but they were doing good workers lies. He lies He's done no, I don't know. I thought he's trying to meet you'll get out of it. I think well You'll the NBC has got enough trouble give a rating suck They got MSNBC to deal with and there are bunch of phonies Yeah And they got now they gotta the news anchor who has to be a very trusted person deliver the news Who's lying? Lying again lies

1:46:15 Yeah. Well, we see him and he's in a lot of movies and stuff but he is an actor! I've always thought Williams was a... Well, I told you that he used to work in New York and my first wife, she had all kinds of work done and he was doing little packages about local plastic surgeons and hitting on her Well, he never had any work done on his nose which is crooked. I'm not saying he had worked them but that's what he did. He did human interest pieces on boob jobs Yeah and then he was like a anchor on MSNBC for a long time where he honed his skills as a newsreader But this is not what you want from your anchor to be a... No And they did it twice That's good isn't it? How long ago was the Letterman? 2013 What was they said just a few weeks ago

1:47:16 So nobody called him out on the Letterman thing apparently. No, no. Because it gets... Nobody watches Letterman. Liars! Liars I tell you! Yeah yeah that's distressing. Skin off my nose? No but it's distressing tha-that You have to assume this is a component of our media Well, a takedown perhaps? No I'm talking about the glorification of oneself. Oh of course yeah! By news anchormen who are just trying to embellish stories to make themselves look good and get a reaction this is not what you want You don't want people reporting that are doing this. Now well of course we already proved that the news media the way it exists today isn't crap anyway

1:48:05 Yes. Here's a big story, this is the big story that somebody wrote in and said oh you guys there nobody's reporting this but they're reporting it and I think this is technically a huge scandal that I think it has all kinds of implications, but play the Anthem Hacked. Oh man! This really... We got that email but this kind of just started to break today Well at this hour millions Americans don't even know it yet But their health insurance company has been hacked Someone broke into the database of Anthem which is the second largest health insurer in America Anthem was responsible for many of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans It's not clear how many people this impacts but the database held personal info for about

1:48:48 80 million customers and employees. Anthem is offering free credit monitoring, and is increasing its password protection." Well that includes us! We're in that database. You? Yeah, Mevio had... Oh yeah, we had to add some Blue Cross. And it includes former customers and its social security numbers addresses etc... Yeah and now by law which is the thing that always bothers me my doctors at the Albany Medical Group which is in Emeryville they

1:49:25 They're older guys and about a year or two ago they started, they all have these tablets. These little tablets they had to buy because they have some software now because the government has mandated that all medical records be electronic in for the near future and they had either move some of the old handwritten stuff onto electronics I don't know what they did with the old records whatever the case It's not secure that way. It's secure when it is a handwritten record that is in a file folder, you go to the doctor and they pull your file out and he has his notes on there. Now! It's in the cloud! And if this sort of thing happens with Anthem Blue Cross, then that means they are going to be hacking everybody's medical records...and by the way, that is considered private

1:50:07 That's private information, but if anyone can just hack it and pull it down the insurance companies are gonna love that. Oh I didn't know this guy had that ailment. Oh that's interesting! Right hadn't even thought about that angle. That's where it's going oh man yeah well this is and I always have to refer whenever this happens um to the fine work of Theodore Kaczynski Industrial society and its future. Link in the show notes, have a read! This is all really... The more we rely on technology the more it's going to start messing with us if this is a prime example And this is Oracle by the way these guys use oracle so for this is a big problem If I mean yeah you have security for getting into it but you would think that the oracle product

1:51:03 has, it's just not that stealable. You know? I mean how... But if there are passwords involved and there is outside, you can get into it from an outside line It's impossible to protect! Find the guy with the password put a gun to his head give him your password type in all of your data download the whole thing because he is the administrator find out who this guy is and then just put a gun to his head you can get all information anyone could do this private information in the cloud, by law this is going to happen. You say cloud we don't know if it's in the cloud or just doesn't matter where it was they got it beside the point it's on a computer so that let me allow my doctor stuff quote unquote in the crack cloud the cloud doesn't mean anything as a meaningless term yes I mean it means there's a computer that's online somewhere that you're linking into but I'm just saying that you can get

1:51:56 Into these things and now they've done this. I mean, that's just an in this is like a one salvo I mean next thing you know everything's gonna be and of course they immediately cooperate with the FBI This is their ahead of the cyber sharing Agreements but they're already doing it and this this kind of comes with a coincidental launch. I'm not sure It's probably not related but I did find let me just find this for you I thought it was kind of interesting because it was It includes Megan Smith who, famous Google exec who now is the chief technology officer for these United States of Gitmo Nation. Eb-She wants you to join the US Digital Service have you seen this? No! The USDS, the United States digital service has a little nice little video a little promo video which includes her and some dudes named Ben and dudettes name... What's the usds dot gov

1:52:57 Uh, yeah I think so. I'll play the video here that sounds- These tours of duty that we set people up with like these are things they're going to be telling their grandkids about Like there was a time when I worked for the White House and here's what i did at the White House And it was more meaningful than anything I've done before or since In tech, I think a lot of us we just- In tech! We're solving really big complex difficult problems and thinking alright this is crazy problem. I know software. I know technology so how do i use that knowledge to fix it like just any big problem? Yeah, I never ever pictured myself doing this until I saw someone else doing it and thought that's awesome. Awesome! These are these are such hipster people the multi culti girl you got the dude with the beard who actually make a difference in people's lives

1:53:43 And the music is so inviting. Have you seen her teeth? Well, I had her on my old silicon spin show quite often. I didn't notice that her teeth were off. My teeth may not be the best in the world but this is just crooked and sticking out all over the place there's no reason in 2015 to have those teeth Well, I never expected to be here. And I realize that's something I said with each step forward that I've taken so far. Each step forward! Right now is just a really critical time to get technologists into the government because there is a huge desire in me. The skills that we have as technologists in private sector are still quite rare in government and whether it's for year or six months or two months or even for couple weeks

1:54:43 The time that you spend in US government can make a dramatic impact. Figuring out how we can use technology better to help the lives of American people is not a new challenge for the federal government, this is something that we've been working on since day one of the administration and administrations before us have tried to solve as well I have explained to people how broken things are Broken! And a lot of them ask me why would you walk into that And the answer is because it matters. You know, I thought about this a lot and I just remember thinking wow! I know technology this is how I'll serve my country. In many cases we're addressing the needs of the people who are most in need for whatever definition you want to use least able to help themselves That's your guy from healthcare.gov Typically did in Silicon Valley

1:55:27 We shifted how people are working, facilitated by technology. And those shifts will outlast the specific technical solutions that we build and that opportunity is unparalleled. At times I'm not sure if i'll finish my term with a concrete deliverable but I know that the The culture is shifting and that deliverable. I have no deliverable, I'm just sitting around. I don't know being attacked or sometimes some people are hands on keyboard coders there's also amazing designers coders it don't be Don't call them coders they don't coders don't like being called coders there's amazing design thinking people their product managers there's people who

1:56:06 really know that subject matter or that user who are you know scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-functional team. Fabulous! So uh... Scrubbed in together? Is that what she said? Yeah, this is Megan. Scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross platform teams listen to this this is gobbledygook of the highest order. This is really good. This is it. It's a last bit here so A concrete deliverable but I know that The culture is shifting and Wow!

1:56:51 I gotta write that down, hold on. That's a winner! Scrubbed in... what does that mean? Scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-function teams and that's Megan Smith calling people coders hands-on coders that's rude just rude so you may not think you belong the United States Digital Services but we want ya Yeah, we want you. Oh she's a we want you but 90 digital isn't it sad? Just sad I don't know depressing somewhat So let me ask your question with them scrubbed in together Now that you and I are scrubbing together on this fact right now. We're scrapping together fabulous cross-function team I have a question

1:57:48 With the information that we know has now been taken, which includes yours and mine presumably. What can be done? And I think my information has now been stolen many times over does this mean that people will assume my identity doesn't matter at this point anymore having this information of social security number... A million you know they pick and choose these companies need to be sued ah yeah Well, don't they get some kind of indemnification if they signed on to the sharing agreement? I'm sure when you signed up for the operation... For the Anthem Operation. You probably already signed your rights away. What i mean is with those cyber-sharing legislation that we read that is now law When they share things If they agree to the sharing agreement They are indemnified

1:58:46 by the government. Yes, I think maybe this information went straight to NSA you don't know who knows? I don't know if it's any good to them but no might be they don't care yeah well i think the main thing is um uh you connect connecting emails and phone numbers particularly phone numbers I think would be that would be a bad thing that's where the real trouble comes in I think maybe yeah here here's one for ya since we're talking about the medical system play Pelosi They're baying at the moon. Something that is not going to work and instead of proposing any, which would be welcome to hear good suggestions they may have to approve the Affordable Care Act, they're baying at the moon 56 times. Is she insane? She is insane! Baying at the Moon?! I actually missed one because she says they are baying at the moon. They are baying at the moon!

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2:15:25 I guess this is a longer documentary. This is former FBI assistant director Thomas Fuentes who explains in a very short clip how, what the purpose of the six-week summit. I heard this is a great clip! If you're submitting budget proposals for law enforcement agency or intelligence agency you're not going to submit your proposal that we won the war on terror and everything's great because first thing is gonna happen your budget is gonna be cut in half You know it's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's keep hope alive Let's just keep fear alive I don't know why I didn't get that clip, but I heard it Keeps your life. Keep your brain flip to keep yeah keep fear alive. I'm gonna put that in the evergreens actually I think that's evergreen you're alive maybe this is show title Oh also good idea let me just put that in our evergreen be worth it someday Going after Debbie Wasserman Schultz

2:16:21 Oh, please. Have you heard this? Please do! This is from the I guess the shape-shifting Jews department...I found this to be interesting on multiple levels. This is a secret recording from—I'm not quite sure where she was but she's talking about almost the sovereignty of the Jews in America. It's a strange clip and it's probably out of context but this has now been shuttled around, I guess trying to discredit her. Now we're married going on 24 years and all of you probably at one point or another have met my incredible children who are now 15, 15 and 11 because we have the problem with assimilation, we have the problem with intermarriage... Problem with assimilation and intermarriage? We have a problem that

2:17:15 Too many generations of Jews don't realize the importance of our institutions strengthening our community. We have problems with too many Jews not understanding our institutions and strengthening of our community, I guess because of intermarriage? Particularly with the rise in anti-Semitism and global intolerance. Ah there we go! Anti-Semitism of course that is the mantra of what is happening in Europe Which obviously we saw in horrific technicolor just last week. No no no...horrific technicolor They're trying to discredit her with that

2:17:54 I don't, not such a big deal to me. So who's she married to here? Steve Schultz. She's married to a guy named Schultz. There is no wiki entry for him but if his name is Schultz that's a Jewish name what maybe he's northern Jew and she's southern Jew What's the deal here? I don't know! I have no idea what it's about This is good. This one, and this was sent to me by actually I'll back it up let me go no I'm gonna start say right here this was a it's about Greece of course we didn't really discuss it that much but we know that Syriza party caught in and I was alerted to the Minister of Finance

2:18:42 Now, of course a lot is happening with Greece and their finances. I think it's now no agenda thinking to be looking at cabinet members ever since the Ukrainian finance minister was literally put in overnight becoming a citizen with the passport. She's an American hedge fund manager and all of sudden she is there to manage the finances of Ukraine. Yanis Varoufakis, this is fantastic he is the Finance Minister for Greece, the new one now. This guy you might as well just call him an American

2:19:25 So he did graduate from Morada School in Athens, but then he went to University of Essex, University of East Anglia, University of Cambridge, University of Sydney. Lyndon B Johnson School of Public Affairs where he taught at the University of Texas He is a...He's the author of several books on game theory because he is also a consultant and economist-in residence at The Valve Corporation Huh. This is, I mean the Valve crew... that's one of the biggest gaming companies there is and he continues to be a consultant to them an economist in residence ummm..I would call Schill Yes or something And he looks like a... He looks scary! He looks like a MMA fighter Freaky looking guy What's his name again? It's Yanis Y-A-N-I-S Varoufakis

2:20:27 Victor Alpha Romeo Oscar Uniform Foxtrot Alpha Kilo India Sierra So I'm not trusting too much. Let's see, he was appointed finance minister... Oh yeah now I've seen this he's been on a lot Yeah but he is a commentator He has that smarmy kind of like here is what we are going to do first we're gonna whack this guy and then we'll think over his business Doesn't look like that? He looks like a whacker It does! Looks like a total whacker I know His political career is this This is his political career He was appointed finance minister by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras in the aftermath of the Syriza victory. A self-described, quote, libertarian Marxist." What? That's doable. And he says several books... Game Theory... Game Theory! The hell is game theory really? I can't summarize it for you. Go to Wikipedia and look up game theory and you will find a good summary. Okay. Umm.. The Rise Of... Oh

2:21:38 The rise of Dr. Doom Anyway, I just thought that was interesting to point out. They're calling him Dr. Doom? Yeah Look at his face! Come on... Yeah i know he's a doom looking guy. Doomy. Very doomy It looks like he's got the take care of himself looking guy And just because everyone else will ignore it I thought that this was just one of the most interesting Interesting pieces of video that I've seen, something that we used to follow quite a while ago. This is the Randy Quaid video with his wife Evie

2:22:22 as they are still apparently somewhere on the lam. Have you seen this? No, I lost track of the story! Oh my god... I thought it was all over, I thought he was back in Hollywood doing bit parts. No and i shall narrate a bit of this video for it so we're seeing a shot of what looks like a longer term hotel room kind of thing His wife, Evie's in the background. She's laying on the bed in a bikini or it could be like Victoria Secret kind of little lingerie with dark sunglasses on Brandy is in the foreground with a completely white beard and he's looking crazy. He's looking pretty crazy reminder

2:23:06 Things went incredibly wrong with him a couple of years back and he was on the run and they were being arrested. And just, just a crazy, crazy story. He is of course well known for Independence Day. And what's the other big hit? He had a bunch of movies. It was pretty we, I knew it was on Saturday Night Live for a long time too. Yeah. So now is that he has been whacked by Hollywood. Hi, I'm Randy Quaid and this is my wife, Evie. I helped media giants News Corp and Warner Bros. Entertainment earn well over a billion dollars for the films Independence Day and Christmas Vacation What did i get in return? A Warner Bros. exec, Bruce Burman stole my house It happens And News Corp's The New York Post continues to smear me to high heaven with a pack of lies

2:23:56 For good measure, Warner Brothers even had my wife and I falsely arrested six times by TMZ. TMZ apparently arrested him? No for real! Well... That's really how it works. Hashtag PMC Police Media Corruption He's not- this is great! Bummmmmmmm A bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm A living hell of biblical proportion. So how do we retaliate? What do we do?" Oh, any idea John? Can you guess what he's gonna say? Well first of all I have a question which is that when we first did this guy story it was about this kind of an underground Hollywood wackers mafioso kind of thing going on in Hollywood It wasn't up front the studios

2:24:56 It was some alien kind of thing to a Hollywood ancillary. There was the guy who killed the public relations woman and then... Oh, right. Right that is coming back to me Yeah there's a public relations woman and there was a bunch of other these mysterious deaths in the police relation one was particularly screwy chat chasing yes Yes, yes, it's particularly screwed because the guy on a bicycle I drove up next door and shot her And then that guy got whacked by the car then that guy just ended up getting killed more similar kind of, this is like three or four years ago. Similar types of scenarios and this guy was the main player because he came out and said they were going to kill him. Right? He was the one yes! He was saying that there are Hollywood wackers they whack people yeah right well so now it's the studios out to get him in Fox and Murdoch I mean come on this is not the same story but go on well...I still have a few tricks too

2:25:53 This is the very same shirt that I wore in ID4 when I saved the world. Another act that Rupert Murdoch still hasn't thanked me for So, Rupert? You wanna fuck me? I'm gonna fuck you! Evie... put this on! Like a cutout picture mask? Yeah. And now his wife comes forward, leans into the camera bending over putting the mask on and then Quaid now backs up he's not wearing pants you don't see just see his legs and he's getting behind her Maybe you'll thank me for this! Spits on his hand...and then he starts pretending to bang Rupert Murdoch which is his wife with a mask Oh yeah!

2:26:45 The dog is a dog, the dog is barking. And he's banging his wife from behind who's wearing the-the... the Rupert Murdoch mask! It has to be seen!! It has to be seen this we have a link in the show Touch what wipe out corruption the dog is touch. Yeah, it's nine more seconds I Think he's great

2:27:40 Some reminiscence about Charlie Hebdo in that scene. I'm sure of it Oh, man you see this it's just so bizarre he guy yeah He must have lost his marbles just well. He's He's Randy Quaid is not like an unknown lame actor the guy has no but any look at what happened with that other You know with the winning guy Oh, Charlie Sheen? Charlie Sheen. I mean a lot of these guys are bipolar they got issues. Yeah but that was... Sheen's bipolar and he has problems. It's drugs and all kinds of other stuff going on there. Yeah well there's that. I don't know if Randy Quaid is on drugs Well he's into something wrong. Hmm. This is funny though. You see the video it's just... yeah we'll definitely check that out. That's fantastically bizarre Okay um Let's talk about The Silk Road guy Okay

2:28:31 I'm au courant, but i had nothing on him. Talk to me. Well he is arrested and this was a while ago now just yesterday or the day before He's found guilty on all charges that looks like a trumped up case Question? Yes As far as i understand there were no actual charges of trying to kill someone those were not charges Yeah i believe that's true Alright good But let's play Silk Road AJ which i think it's the first of two clips Just to catch people up. That's Al Jazeera, there is an Al Jazeera report.

2:29:24 Now, that was followed by I think this is a report from one of the... This is...I don't think it was RT. It may have been Friends 24 but this is a little longer report from the ground and discussing some of the screwiness to this case. Well, I can tell you that the jury took hardly any time at all just three-and-a-half hours to find the defendant Ross Albrecht guilty on all charges seven of them ranging from drug trafficking to conspiracy to commit money laundering into a criminal enterprise kingpin charge that's usually reserved for people in the mafia, for heads of mafia. A very serious charge. The prosecution in their case laid out how they spent two years investigating the dark website known as the Silk Road where illegal drugs were bought and sold

2:30:12 They, in that time were trying to link a man known only as Dread Pirate Roberts the administrator of the site to a real person and they detailed for the jury just how they did that. They said that they found Ross Ulbricht's name through basic Google search and spent two years infiltrating the workers at the Silk Road getting to know the operation, how it was happening and built a case bit by bit. The jury had to pour through thousands of pages of documents that showed

2:30:47 what the dread pirate Roberts was doing and saying, and how that paralleled the life of Ross Ulbricht as laid out by the prosecution through emails and Facebook posts. And so on it was a trial conviction investigation that took place almost entirely online. It was a very interesting case watched by privacy advocates in defense argued that The government had the wrong guy Ross Albrecht yes he started the Silk Road but But he had handed off the reins, only to be lured back in as a fall guy for the real Dread Pirate Roberts. They argued that all of the evidence presented by the government was just a little too convenient and that information online can be so easily manipulated that it shouldn't be used to connect Ross Ulbricht to the Dread Pirate Roberts but at the end of the day, the jury did come back on the side of government prosecutors again guilty on all counts. That's troubling

2:31:44 Very troubling. I found this whole thing to be distressing it sounds like they don't have a real physical connection They have no evidence Wow, they do you have a trumped-up bunch of evidence in the stupid jury? Okay You know the government's never really there looking out for us and so they bought into it It may not hold up when they appeal. So, they have pictures of the guy and he's a... He does little rock climbing and he looks at his teeth or need work. They never found any money that I know of. We talked about this when they first arrested him. He was living in a shithole apartment with three other roommates in San Francisco. The money nobody talks about where is the money all this money supposedly made? And the guy has a look about him that it's hard to believe as a kingpin

2:32:32 of any sort. And because kingpins, I have to...I don't want to generalize but guys who are into being kingpins you know big shots they have trappings. You know find it's a nice storyline to have in a movie maybe where we have the unassuming character i think Meyer Lansky was probably an example of that the famous gangster lived just a tract home in Florida I mean, this is a possibility. But generally speaking, the guy has to have a nice car or something. Did they not arrest him and he had the lab? He was on the laptop at that time then that's where they got all their information from that were connected it to him? Well, the problem is

2:33:20 that the way this is presented in this case, that was never brought up because all of research was done online. And they found him by a Google search and they found... By the way anyone could be set up this way. Yeah they gave him a laptop and said here you go check this out we'll be back in a moment. The guy supposedly the way they ran the case against them was they had found parallels The guy's like, he was at a Starbucks and apparently the pirate is at a Starbucks at the same time according to Facebook posts. Is that good enough to convict somebody? Well I guess with 1,000 pages of all these coincidences or supposed coincidences are rigged coincidence as we don't know if you look at this document.

2:34:04 It was, but it's pretty... and they had all these guys infiltrated but they didn't bring any witnesses in. Is that what you're telling me? Is there a copy of this decision online somewhere? I'd love to dig into that. That's interesting. Yeah, we're going to be a good read. I've read these cases if you can get hold of the transcripts. Did he plead not guilty? Yeah, of course he did. And he claims, he said yeah I was working on some web development for these guys and that was that. That sounds plausible Well whatever the case there's a lot of holes in the storage

2:34:47 Alright, I'll look see if that's now you're caught up. Yeah, I only wanted to mention it because I thought you might be yeah Reading this thing my wheelhouse John You're right in the neck to get a copy for ya. Yeah, this is so in our ever ongoing quest to Make Vladimir Putin seem like a complete crazy guy We have, this is made USA Today which means the talking points are out. 2008 Pentagon study which is not really a pentagon study but it was a study done by a think tank which although not conclusive

2:35:33 provided enough information for researchers to claim Vladimir Putin has Asperger's. Yeah, that was in today's top of the stories on MSN News when you booted up your browser. Researchers can't... Putin has Asperger's! Researchers can't prove their theory about Putin and Aspergers. That's Asperger's? Berger's? Berga-Asperjurz? How do you pronounce it? It's Asperjer's. The report said because they were not able to perform a brain scan. Ah, that's next the report sites work by autism specialists as backing their findings Maybe maybe had a measles vaccine Sorry So this is just another discreditation And it weak it's a weak one because the study doesn't read there's no No real proof but they're just say all the guy looks like he has an autistic disorder look at him Just look at him

2:36:31 How do they actually come up with that? Let me see if I can find... Did you see any what their real findings were or where they came from. No, the story was bogus and didn't follow up on it Of course it's bogus but you have to look at oh here it is His analysis, the US officials needed to find quieter settings whose behavior and facial expressions reveal someone who is defensive in large social settings. Although these features are observed in Aspergers they are also observed in individuals who have difficulty staying calm in social settings and have low thresholds to be reactive." So this based upon facial expression now? Jeez... Basi- ugh yeah I know oh there you go I just thought it was of note Of note And also the um

2:37:18 Never mind. Forget I even said that. What else do we have? There's a book out, new book came out from an author called Chasing the Scream and it tracks the war on drugs starting in the 30s when Harry Anslinger had a bone to pick with everything And this guy made a very interesting, Johan Bree or Bree is whatever his name is. The writer he told me he said something on here and I have a clip that I did not know any of this and I think we should have it at least on our side when

2:38:03 see these arguments about legalizing marijuana. the leader of his country. He lives in a shack. I went to the shack—I mean, it's no exaggeration to say David Cameron and Barack Obama wouldn't keep their shoes where Mahouka lives—and he led his country to legalize marijuana, first country to legalize marijuana since the drug war begins in the 30s because he'd seen what happened. And I went there to see this in northern Mexico, where the cartels have—if you—if a large part of the economy is illegal drugs, armed criminal gangs have more money than the state. They can hijack the state and take over. And he saw if that comes and hits Uruguay

2:38:50 They're screwed. It's a small country, they don't have much military force and really the horror that I saw...I mean interviewed the only person to ever be at the heart of one of the Mexican drug cartels and make it out to tell what it was like and you know this is one of the most horrendous atrocities in the war on drugs as what it does to supply route countries. What I didn't know was that it was legal in Uruguay? I don't believe its' the first country that legalized. I think Holland it was legal forever. No no no Holland has tolerance but not legalized Portugal. Decriminalize, I guess by some logic you could probably say that... And all of that's being turned back now because of the harmonization of the EU is forget about it is all over there's more legal marijuana available in America now than Amsterdam! Yeah

2:39:44 Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Alaska and there's I guess a couple more coming up for grabs. Yeah and when it comes to gay marriage we have now 36 states in America! We're not the big homophobes we used to be Well anyway just thought was interesting that Uruguay...and the logic was different It was Homosexuality is such a pain in the ass Sorry I don't know where that came from Very off-the-wall I did know about this guy in Uruguay. There's been several pieces on him living in the shack. Yeah, he seems like an interesting character. He might be a place to go. I don't know about that! Here is an interesting guy... I ran into this clip. This just an offbeat clip

2:40:38 It's a clip about Tanzania and this problem with witches. And there is, they started it... I didn't clip the whole thing because it was actually kind of gruesome. This guy's describing what happened to his sister or something. They grabbed her and beat her up and chopped their arms and legs off with machetes and then threw in a pile and burned her because she was at witch. I always wonder about some of these African countries and some of the logic of the thinking that goes on into developing whatever culture they have or don't have. And this little report has a punchline that just like, oh maybe this is part of the problem. If you tell the patients that they have been bewitched by somebody you just create a conflict between the two That is when killings can happen Behind the suspicion often lies a more sinister motive greed They think the only way to access that property be it cows, farms or whatever

2:41:39 is to claim that this lady's a witch and in so doing then justifies for her death. A simple accusation of witchcraft can condemn a woman to death, leaving her property and wealth to the accuser. Really? They gotta get it together in Tanzania. You accuse somebody being a witch and you get their stuff! Yeah. Sounds killer. Sounds fair. Unbelievable I have two things left. One is, I stand corrected... It was Glenn Double N, Producer Glenn who corrected me the imitation game which is about the Enigma machine which does not properly credit the Polish cracking of the code and really setting all this up. I was wrong there is one mention in the movie here it is. This is unacceptable

2:42:33 If you wish to discuss the complaint, I suggest to make a proper appointment. Alexander! Complaint? No no Hugh Alexander has denied my requisition for parts and equipment that i need to build the machine I've designed Your fellow code breakers are refusing to work with you and they filed a formal complaint It is inspired by an old Polish code machine only this one is infinitely more advanced if You don't respond to the complaint I shall have to take it up at the home office There ya go there is mention An Old Polish Machine Oh that's old polish That's about it And then the second thing I have is we had Tom Wheeler, chairman of the FCC come out and say okay. I'm ready to circulate my ideas it seems surprisingly very much like the president's idea of shoving stuff under title two which... Of course there's nothing to read yet nothing to see. I have two Wheeler clips. Are they from PBS?

2:43:29 They might be. Because I have two from PBS We'll see what you got Here we go, one You want to make sure that you've got protections in place so that consumers know that when they go to the internet it's going to be fast It's gonna be fair and its gonna be open And at the same point in time, you want to do it in a way that's not going to constrain investment. Because obviously we want people companies to be building faster and more ubiquitous broadband networks so its been a balance of both of those. Press and media was great, fantastic. Finally something good this is going to be awesome and it's not going to be awesome people because this is going to bring in regulation which restricts content that may flow if it is based on law as in unlawful

2:44:21 content or unlawful network traffic. This will be the wording in the legislation, clip number two. We're really not doing utility regulation. Not really except we're putting it under title 2 which is Utility Regulation here. Utility regulation was developed for a monopoly model what we are doing is taking the legal construct that once was used for phone companies and pairing it back to modernize it so it specifically deals with this issue. So, its not really utility regulation but it is regulation to make sure that there's somebody watching out for the consumer like you said there's no paid prioritization, there's no blocking, and there's no throttling No blocking pay attention that would be only of legal and lawful content And most important There will be ongoing rules in perpetuity Whaaaaat?

2:45:18 In perpetuity? Ongoing what? Ongoing rules in perpetuity. Let's just hear that again and then he qualifies that by the way. Prioritization, there is no blocking, there is no throttling and most important... There will be ongoing rules in perpetuity so that they'll be a yardstick to measure what's fair for consumers because we don't know with the Internet it's going to be five years from now Various tricks are gonna be five years. Tricks, but we're gonna have a referee on the field We'll have a referee on the field a yardstick rules in perpetuity and what tricks will be I mean Wow

2:45:59 Oh yeah, no this is horrible. This is bad for everything and everybody And I think one of these two clips of mine, I believe Is a tech reporter for Al Jazeera Oh good And you can see how they're handling this and I think your right that most of the tech community's going in this direction Let's play the first one as if it was the op-ed clip Yeah See what that is Because he wrote an Op Ed which was published in Wired Which doesn't tell us that was a New York Times. Oh, I got it from wired. Okay? Whatever he wrote an opinion He's would share a slower more crowded digital highway That segregation, critics say would kill the free and open internet as we know it. What Wheeler is proposing is a plan that regulates Internet service the same way the government regulates phone service or well... The highways In an op-ed Wheeler wrote, So that's not..that isn't a tech journalist

2:46:59 And that's his opinion. It was a very pro-Wheeler... I mean, I don't understand if everyone is hypnotized or they don't see the problem here but they just they don't. What's also interesting is throughout this interview with Gwen Ifill it was about 11 minutes he keeps referring to ISPs solely as cable companies which is interesting because that could be A.) Just his thinking in general that nothing else exists. He comes from Comcast. Or it could also B.) that this regulation may not apply necessarily to non-cable company ISPs. I don't know, but wouldn't that be interesting? It seems unlikely. Let's play the second part of this clip and see where this goes. The proposed rules would prevent broadband providers from blocking or limiting content

2:47:44 The FCC will vote on Wheeler's proposal later this month. The internet reaches us the same way the highway does. Free and open, guaranteed to all no matter how we visit the internet whether it's through a browser on the phone or through some other device in the... Check for reporting for us Wow great tech report Through a browser? I'm going to say it right now, i'm just re-reading his op ed. This is going to be exactly what the president called for and the giveaways in this using this authority and he refers to title 2 authority to implement and enforce open internet protections Using this authority I am submitting to my colleagues the strongest open internet protections

2:48:41 My god. Ever proposed by the FCC, these enforceable... here it comes bright line rules that's the president's wording right there will ban paid prioritization the blocking and throttling of lawful content there it is lawful content and services I'll say it again the blocking and throttling of lawful content and services Some services will be unlawful. I propose to apply, fully apply for the first time ever those bright line rules... What's bright line rules even mean? Oh we looked this up last time. Yeah i guess. Bright Line Rules let me get a definition for you but this is exactly what the president's here it is bright line rule

2:49:20 This is according to Wikipedia, which we know... A bright line rule is a clearly defined rule or standard generally used in law composed of objective factors which leave little or no room for varying interpretation. The purpose of a bright line rule is to produce predictable and consistent results in its application Brightline rules are usually standards established by courts in legal precedent or by legislatures in statutory provisions. Brightline rules are often contrasted with its opposite, balancing tests where a result is dependent on weighing several factors so this is going to be so clear

2:50:03 But the thing that no one is talking about, and there's The Verge. This is great! And all the comments... Yeah finally man Netflix won't buffer! Fucking assholes stupid morons Sorry Tourette's Actually if you look at this and the kind of lawsuits that are going to occur we've already heard from that woman heads up mobile industry, and the fact that the U.S. Congress has passed laws specifically about mobile broadband and we don't need any of these rules but they're going to implement them anyway... We're gonna see probably more buffering because Netflix is unfairly got servers at all the ISP as co-located devices

2:50:49 Because they have their, what they call their web appliance sitting at for example Sonic.net Comcast refuses to put these in because it costs too much to operate is their argument Although they have similar devices for their own movies But now if everything's gotta be fair you can't have this appliances giving unfair advantage to Netflix I don't see how you can rationalize it. Those things have got to go! Well, I would very much like to see what the technical implementation is going to be specifically because the internet was built on paid prioritizations called peering and, you know... And the opposite is you purchase transit. This is how it was built

2:51:40 This is how it was built. And if you put in Title II, you're not... Actually that's how it evolved. In the early days of the internet 1969 there was no peering and all these...and paid transit and all this stuff was not even thought of. Agreed agreed that's how it evolved agreed. And the good news is of course that this doesn't really do much to the network itself Because the network is the beauty, with the services and products that they're talking about which is Netflix and Facebook and Twitter then Google and all these things. That's all going to be regulated but when it comes to distributed hash tables there will be ways to get around it without any problem but it will not be for the general population because there will be no money to be made with services like that

2:52:31 So, it will not become the great equalizer that it could have been where we really have people conversing across the globe about how we can change things. It's just over! That's not going to work. They finally did it when this happens? It'll be decades before we get anything going again. Well they've been planning on this government takeover so they could regulate it because you know...it's out of control From a government perspective, it's out of control. It's out of control absolutely Absolutely can't censor it you can't do anything You can now censor it yes, you know something illegal as hate speech you can run that we got to shut your website That's right hate speech will be blocking those blocked at the ISP level yeah Right in your access level Yeah And I've been speech and just speech no good when you hear him literally say

2:53:24 Lawful. No blocking of lawful content and services A service will be BitTorrent, BitTorrent Sync Whatever it is If they can They will Here's the verge I hate these guys Listen to this This is probably Neelye No its not TC Soda whatever Headline Net neutrality wins FCC will propose strong Title II regulation And let's look at some of the comments from the sheep who think that this is great. I've yet to see a single thing... This is good news says, well dear, The Real JT! I hope the news was delivered directly to David Pierce after all those Neli Burns he deserves some love and it's just everyone's all in they think this is great they think this has been brainwashed into believing this is what you need sorry and you know what there will be a day

2:54:31 And I hope we're still alive and someone will say, you know damn Dvorak and Curry were right. This sucks It's kind of like it don't think it'll take that long before people realize that this isn't gonna work There's gonna be too late because he said himself in perpetuity once these things the government gets his camel head into the tent You're screwed yeah We've done everything we can, and curiously all these same guys are all into this net neutrality bogus argument. And now it was just switched over to this newer sounding argument the independence of free open internet. Whatever that means... All these guy were the same guys when this whole thing began Oh God keep the government away from this because this is great It's too good. Evolving without the government No! We don't want the government

2:55:25 the governments and now they're saying people say, oh we need net neutrality. But even it's not really an issue less than 10 minutes to go. Okay? I think we should actually end now. Yeah. Uh, let's see the only other thing Nah, I'd stuff for Sunday. Keep some stuff over. Uh...I got the aviation news we have to talk about a couple things that have been happening. Yeah let's talk about that in the next episode. Also some more poppy stand drug news. Might have some tech news we could look at Oh yeah! Oh yeah, I'm gonna deconstruct Singularity University for ya. Oh fun! These guys need some deconstruction. They're getting very very annoying Deconstruction or a takedown?

2:56:09 Don't know if I can take anybody down by myself. That's right you but I can certainly certainly give it a try Thank you all Baying at the moon baying at the moon yes, that's the one I was looking for thank you exactly what I needed alright Hey, I'm gonna be in New York next week why huh? Why because I can Well, still. Yeah because I can Just to go float around? No real purpose? Eh buddy of mine's there and we'll hang out a bit Oh... Yeah no purpose! We get some news from New York! Yeah We could get something good you never know Possible Inberg is going against the new guy You should be excited I am Whenever the show is on the road fun things happen Yes! I'm jacked up I can tell Sound completely jacked

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