Episode 645 · Friday, 22 August 2014

Ghost of Austin

The militarization of domestic police and the suspicious production quality of international jihadi videos reveal a coordinated effort to manipulate public perception through fear and scripted unrest.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 645

About this episode

The media narrative surrounding the Ferguson unrest is analyzed as a cynical mobilization effort for the 2016 election, with Michelle Bernard and Al Sharpton accused of driving Democratic voter turnout. The shooting of Kajieme Powell by St. Louis police and the arrest of 90-year-old activist Hedy Epstein are scrutinized as scripted events designed to justify the federalization of local law enforcement through DHS grants and military-grade gear like the Lenco Bearcat.

Technical analysis of the James Foley beheading video reveals inconsistencies including a wireless lavalier microphone, a lack of blood during the cutting, and Hollywood-style fades that suggest a psychological operation. Former CIA Director Michael Hayden and Representative Mike Rogers are seen promoting a Super Bowl of terrorism narrative to protect pipeline geopolitics in Syria and Iraq. Meanwhile, the branding of British jihadis as The Beatles is identified as a calculated PR move originating from The Guardian and MI6.

In lighter segments, the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is deconstructed as a modern form of the 1300s flagellants, with Bill Gates and Lindsay Lohan using the spectacle to alleviate wealth guilt. Adam Curry prepares for a trip to Amsterdam while revealing a voiceover gig as Frank Underwood. The show concludes with a look at the Tektronix Phaser printer maintenance scam and the myth that Thomas Jefferson invented macaroni and cheese.


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CHAPTER 01 / 58 Discussion

Tektronix Phaser Printer Maintenance and Counter Chips

A discussion regarding the maintenance of a Tektronix Phaser 8560 solid ink printer reveals that the device requires a maintenance kit every 30,000 copies. The hardware utilizes a counter chip to disable the printer once the limit is reached, regardless of the physical condition of the parts. This "engine light" style of forced maintenance prevented the printing of show notes.

tektronix· phaser 8560· maintenance kit· counter chip· solid ink printer

00:00 Look at me, boom! Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday August 21st 2014 time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 645 This is no agenda Guaranteed 100% Ebola free and coming to you from the South Austin Safe House in FEMA Region Six here in the capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I just put a maintenance kit into my printer I'm John C. Dvorak A maintenance kit. Yeah, is that a printer? Is it like the old school cassette tape that was they would clean your heads You know I don't know what this thing is for but it stopped the printer This is a phaser one of those solid ink printers from Tektronix the 8560 prints on both sides to the sheet and there's got a bunch of weird stuff That has to be replaced every so often

00:58 And there's this one thing called the maintenance kit that has to be replaced after 30,000 copies. Really? I must have made 30,000 printouts or something and yeah it's a pain in the butt you gotta get this thing and then look at the old main is getting a new maintenance kit and you know there's a counter because they look exactly the same so some counter chip it says okay we're through It's like your engine light Yes, I'm time to go on engine light engine now works again. Oh Okay good Did you print out your I know you have you need your clip list all printed out? And oh yes that last show actually because that's when it went out I couldn't print out the clippers So I had to have it on this screen of the computer and I thought it was me That was doing a rough job being in New York at all yeah well I had to do all this other hard work I've been a miss Mickey and I've been talking and we feel like

CHAPTER 02 / 58 Discussion

No Agenda Road Trip Planning and Travel Schedules

Plans are proposed to take the show on the road every four weeks to various locations within "Gitmo Nation" to provide local color and host meetups. A debate ensues regarding the ideal travel schedule, comparing a quick weekend trip to a week-long stay that covers two episodes. The strategy aims to balance research time with the logistics of traveling to cities like Montreal or New York.

gitmo nation· montreal· travel schedule· meetup· local color

01:50 That would probably be good for the show and for us if every four weeks or so we go on the road somewhere in Gitmo Nation. I think we've discussed this before! Yeah, you've always liked the idea Oh yeah no i liked the idea...I was on the road, I went to Canada Right now I know but we're not talking about you it's all about me again It makes sense So where does Mickey want to go now? You're such a douchebag. Wow Oh, this was my idea. Okay I brought it up also you took the idea okay good well I noticed the timing is very interesting if you leave If we were to leave on Friday then we travel to some destination You know at least we have travel stories and local color to add for the Sunday show We need local color Yeah which I think is very important And then on Saturdays wherever we go... ...we can have a pre-arranged meetup so this would kind of work out

02:53 I think that's the thing that I'm... So here is what you're telling me. You're going to do this show on Thursday, rocket out of town the next day not be able to do any research whatsoever hit some party town and Saturday night... Hookers and blow! Wooo! Live it up and then get up the next day and do this show on a boat? Yeah well I think there is... Now let me tell my thoughts on this Okay, you made that sound no so good Well, it's because I think this is the short side. You should go to the long side! No, I disagree with this... So you get first Saturday and Sunday you finish the show. Sunday you finish the show and immediately get on a plane and go someplace else? No no no First of all- You're not even gonna let me finish?! You have your mind made up. I'm listening

03:44 Okay, you go on the road your Sunday night. You're gone It's like if you don't can't do much work after the show anyway because you kind of use tight it's you know It's a tedious show this tire is hard as but used like performing so you go off and your gold relaxes you go to Montreal So now you're in Montreal Quebec And Monday you gotta start roaming the town every no stop I don't want no No This is not good No, like you know what do you go? What are you gonna get the Canadians nothing against the Canadians I witnessed the perfect travel schedule left on Friday for New York arrived on Friday in New York head and still didn't with travel and There's time to do research. There is really time to do things the clips is a little hard But it's there's time to do some research Saturday we had the reunion

04:37 And still, unless you didn't like Sunday Show I thought that I performed to my full capacity. Okay... Right? And then and then Then I have all these days research and also learn local things before we have the show on Thursday, then travel back. All this is nice you have one day! No after no after the Friday Saturday Sunday the show then Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday We do the show on Thursday go back home on Friday I'm talking like a real gone for week Oh so your thinking of staying for two shows? Yes oh that's different That changes everything great idea Adam yes indeed

CHAPTER 03 / 58 Discussion

Wicked on Broadway and The Wizard of Oz Casting

A recent visit to see the musical "Wicked" on Broadway leads to observations about the show's humor and its portrayal in a South Park episode. One of the hosts is jokingly suggested as a perfect fit for the role of the Wizard in "The Wizard of Oz" due to his personality. The conversation touches on the cultural impact of musicals and the work of Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber.

wicked· broadway· stephen sondheim· south park· wizard of oz

05:21 Oh, that's interesting. Well yeah maybe might work So you're finally sick Austin? That doesn't make sense they gonna go out look for another town Okay I'd be interested to see what you come up with there's some property available in parts of South St Louis East st. Louis Based upon your recommendation John my daughter and I went to see Wicked on Broadway Yes To a couple observations Mickey didn't go no she wasn't with us She was here She was working I thought Mickey was there. Okay, it's just the two right so you and sue and you and Chris ooh yes, ooh, soo-soo yeah There's a outstanding show I really liked it. I liked the story It was very funny some very funny bits and of course I had seen The South Park in

06:13 Episode regarding wicked have you ever seen that one no? Oh, it's why do why do women like musical so much then apparently oh I did see this word blowjob the word blow job is fit in right right right and then women after you take them to the Musical they want to give you a blowjob And then he starts writing musicals and then there's Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber said hey man get off of our turf was It was funny. So the other observation... Which is ironic since they went and did Book of Mormon, the same guys Right The other observation is that you are a perfect fit And I believe you have everything it takes You have all the talent but you really are a shoe-in for The Wizard Of Oz Oh, the guy behind the curtain? You would be perfect

07:06 Probably true. Yeah, yeah the song you can kind of talk staccato sing your one song you got about how fabulous you are. One song. The guy and I were looking at each other said that's Dvorak on stage it's perfect he can do this not a problem then of course traveling back from New York City with my new trusted traveler credentials Oh, yes. Wow! That worked this is so fantastic JetBlue So they have their own terminal I think it's the old set the old TWA Terminal Yeah They moved into the old...they can't tear that thing down because it's a National Historical Monument It's beautiful. I love it. I think it's the best terminal in the world and Do they have re-hippified parts of it? So the pre check trusted traveler line Is all the way on the other side its zero people

CHAPTER 04 / 58 Discussion

TSA PreCheck Experience and Security Theater Observations

An experience at the JetBlue terminal in New York highlights the inconsistencies of the TSA PreCheck and Trusted Traveler programs. Despite carrying a bag filled with suspicious-looking electronics and microphones, the security process was described as a "pre-9/11 experience" where belts and boots remained on. The interaction with TSA agents suggests that the rigorous screening processes are often bypassed for those in the trusted traveler line, reinforcing the concept of security theater.

tsa precheck· jetblue· trusted traveler· security theater· magnetometer

08:01 Nice. And this time I was told to even keep my belt on now the belt, I was wearing no they were yelling us that in Seattle I didn't know about the belt but my belt is filled with studs and don't get the wrong impression not walking around like a like white snake But it's a studded belt it has metal in it And I'll keep it on and it didn't go off of course. Nothing went off, keep your boots on! It must be my boots are all the way even in Amsterdam where you don't have to take your shoes off my boots always make the the magnetometer go off. If you want to test a magnetometer, next time you go through it well you're not going to be there in New York for awhile but or anybody out there who wants to test the magnetometer either bump into this sides or touch the sides and it'll set it off. But get this... It doesn't set it off then its no on! So and the laid back nature of the TSA offers is

08:59 pre 9-11 experience. There's, you know instead of bins there are no bins just a little round plastic thing you throw your keys and your phone and your money clip in there if you keep everything on even if you have a light jacket keep this...there is no bins! Keep everything in your bag now we know that my bag is at best suspicious looking the studio bag which contains multiple wires, wires gadgets of dynamite and a microphone to turn tables in a microphone. It has I had my my ID 31a the HT the handheld which looks very much like a remote detonation device and this time My bag went off to the side for bag check. Ah it's about time

09:52 And the guy picks it up, he says whose bag is this? Right now I'm like who's bag is this? Like oh that's mine. I'll come over. He said oh microphone! As I'm opening my bag to show the microphone and says you don't have to open it up I could see it as a microphone don't worry about it have a nice day. He didn't even want to see it By the way I find this peculiar...I've seen a bunch of situations where they could easily open something up and they choose not too He even said, I know that it's a microphone. You don't have to open up and prove it to me! What? But I've seen this before without going through the special line with the special people It is so fantastic to see that everything Is a complete guaranteed certified bona fide security theater

CHAPTER 05 / 58 Discussion

Trusted Traveler Program Disqualifications and Airline History

A producer's story reveals that a criminal conviction can lead to disqualification from the $140 Trusted Traveler program without a refund, yet the same individual can still receive TSA PreCheck status through frequent flyer programs. The discussion shifts into a brief nostalgic look at defunct airlines, including Piedmont, PSA, and Eastern Air Lines, the latter of which was noted for its poor service.

trusted traveler· tsa· criminal record· piedmont airlines· eastern air lines

10:43 Just by witnessing the Trusted Traveler program. Which of course costs $140 to enter and I got an email from Craig, one of our producers who says yeah you think this is a this trusted traveler is a scam for you here's my story I applied for the program filled out all the paperwork paid my fee waited for my interview instead gotta notice I was disqualified from the trusted traveler program because I'd indicated I had been convicted of a crime So if a crime automatically disqualifies you, why did they not say that up front so I didn't have to lose my money? Ah, scammo. Yeah good one And then he says so i'm not a trusted traveler because it but because I travel so much united pays for My TSA pre-check and I am approved for that regardless So here's the guy who has declined the trusted traveler program Because he admits to having been convicted of a crime

11:38 Yet he still gets to do use pre-check because he's a frequent flyer Yeah, I get the same thing from PSA or TPSA when they think that's west What was it? Wow Piedmont Airlines no PSA is there is the progenitor for Southwest yeah But I remember piedmont. Yeah, I remember piedmont too my goodness anyway hold on second. I remember Hughes oh The helicopter guys? Hughes, no. Hughes... No it's a little too... And Eastern is a good one. Eastern! Oh yeah. With the... Considered by many to be the worst air carrier ever They had the big smiley sun on the side Yeah we travel a lot with that Eastern Attention! Attention! Citizens you are being attacked by your politicians, spokeholds news organizations in violation of your human rights I turn on the television You are being barraged people

CHAPTER 06 / 58 Discussion

Ferguson Unrest and Media Narrative Analysis

The media coverage of the Ferguson, Missouri unrest is analyzed as a cynical attempt to drive Democratic voter turnout. Clips from MSNBC featuring Michelle Bernard describe a "war on black boys" and criticize the public education system. The narrative is framed as a coordinated effort by news organizations to capitalize on the tragedy for political gain during a slow news cycle.

ferguson· missouri· msnbc· michelle bernard· media hype

12:35 What is happening on the so-called news? Is making people ill. This is really... It's out of control now! Who made up this idea that it would be fun to do this while everybody had a vacation planned I'm seeing nothing but Jake Tapper looking really mad Aaron Burnett like, you know, mad Brolf is... at this point, Wolf Blitzer has said screw it I'm on vacation. If something really bad happens in Israel where i'm hanging out on the beach? I'll do a hit if you want me to It's really really crazy Yeah there are only these two stories

13:17 Yeah, well luckily there's a couple more but yeah these two stories are quite interesting and they're so good in fact we have a jingle for the our first story I Love our producers Thank You Sean huge and that kind of I like that one. It kind of worked for me. Yes, it's okay Don't shoot I Just can't understand the first word Ferguson Ferguson? Ferguson, hands up! Don't shoot! I didn't hear it. These kinds of jingles should have a little padded bit in the beginning so that it's very important to people you know your brain focuses to it before the first word comes yeah that is the kind of stuff we have to look out for true yeah well congratulations John your analysis has played out in spades of this bull crap

14:24 Media hype not to say that it sucks that you know people are being killed This seems to happen on a daily basis in Oakland all the time I don't see anybody getting worked up people dying some car do so what was in Los Angeles some producer? One of the lesser shows Tosh and point. Oh, I think that one of them well this was awhile ago No, I thought he was gunned down recently no there's a way to get any attention anyway was a while ago You have Yeah, it's... and a lot of this is MSNBC. Of course we have The Rev is out there and just to reiterate your analysis which has turned many people into anger and calling us racists! You're racist man you don't see what's going on? Yeah, we kind of do We really really really kinda do But let's if-if you would indulge for moment John Let me just fiddle around the dial here

15:22 So we can listen to a few different pieces of analysis, mainly from MSNBC and how it is being...how the story is unfolding and how it is moving towards the whatever you do vote. Whatever you do get out and vote and vote Democrat! And that is as What is the word not sarcastic? What's the word I'm looking for blatant no? When cynically cynical it's that cynical. Yes, that's what I'm looking for this is Michelle Bernard I believe she is the senator or congresswoman for Missouri and She'd be a Congressman. She's a congresswoman and she spells it out real clear for us

16:11 There are people in this country who not only do not like African Americans, but they despise black men. There is a war on black boys in this country. A war on black boys? Write it down John! In my opinion there's a war on African American Men and I think the fact that President Obama has repeatedly had to stand up and look at members of Congress the president of the United States get over it. I think it enrages people and we are seeing not just the economic effects, were seeing the effects of a horrible public education system that discriminates against our kids on the basis of race and on the basis of their zip code and things are getting much much worse. It is absolutely deplorable situation that the United States which is supposed to be the greatest nation on earth allows sits back and allow black boys to be murdered. That's pretty

CHAPTER 07 / 58 Discussion

Voter Registration Drives and Meet the Press Transitions

Voter registration efforts in Ferguson are highlighted as the primary goal of the ongoing protests, with activists claiming change starts at the polling place. Meanwhile, changes at NBC's "Meet the Press" are noted, specifically the departure of David Gregory and the temporary hosting by Andrea Mitchell. The segment suggests that the media is pivoting from the shooting itself to the political implications of the local demographics.

ferguson· voter registration· meet the press· andrea mitchell· david gregory

17:03 pretty outrageous. Yeah, yeah I would say unfortunately it's a little naive. You think? Well this is... It's naive within the black community itself I mean, this isn't kidding. They will pick up a couple of seats it's not going to be like the Missouri government is going to be overthrown and i think they already have a democrat governor and they're giving him grief let's check that out while you're checking that out here is uh so a woman who showed up with her daughter and they were right there getting the voter registration drive underway hi we originally came around my daughter

17:44 First with the cleanup of Ferguson and then we got involved with the voting because we realized that change starts at the polling place. So if you are a registered voter, you can put elected officials that you feel have the heart of the people in place and that's why we came out today working with the voting registration today. Very good now This got so bad that on Meet the Press, and I think it was... Was it Andrea Mitchell who was hosting it? I don't know. It could have been. I didn't watch it. Chip is out so you know. Yeah chip is done. He's got four million bucks to walk. I thought it was more. Four? Okay good enough. Yes four. This is let me see what do I have here. I have here a gentleman by the name of Jason Riley

18:44 And Jason Reilly is on the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal. Obviously Uncle Tom! As I've seen the black Twitter exclaim, and he is asked the last question just before they're going to commercial break and he says the truth And it gets, everyone gets so befuddled. This is one of those rare cases where it'd be fun to see the video you have Jane Harman, the former Congresswoman she's rolling her eyes and Andrea Mitchell just tries to dump out of it. You can almost hear the producer going get him off go to commercial, go to commercial, go to commercial

CHAPTER 08 / 58 Discussion

Jason Riley on Black Criminality and Al Sharpton's Agenda

Jason Riley of the Wall Street Journal editorial board sparks controversy on "Meet the Press" by discussing black-on-black crime and questioning why Al Sharpton ignores shootings in Chicago to focus on Ferguson. Riley argues that liberal policies make it harder for the black community to succeed. The hosts critique the media's reaction to Riley's statements, characterizing it as an attempt to suppress uncomfortable statistics.

jason riley· wall street journal· al sharpton· chicago· black criminality

19:22 And then she also says something very interesting about the Rev's mission to Missouri. Here is Jason Reilly, a black man on the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal. Also he wrote a book which I think is referenced in this clip. Before we go I want to ask you about Ferguson because you've written a whole book Please stop helping us how liberals make it harder for blacks to succeed. What we've seen in Ferguson certainly shows the disengagement between a local police force and the community You could say that I mean, I don't want to litigate this in the press if the officer used excessive force I think he should be prosecuted but at the same time let's not pretend that our morgues and cemeteries are full of young black men

19:58 because cops are shooting them. The reality is that it's because other black people are shooting them and we need to talk about black criminality. Blacks only... You just hear the control room going What? Get him out, get him out. This is not a population. But there are 50% of homicide victims in this country and 90% of those victims are killed by other black people. We need to talk about that. And we certainly saw that the blacks were the victims of the looting as well. At the same time... Andrea, you're losing it! You gotta get this guy off! The same weekend that this went down in Ferguson, we had 26 shootings in Chicago but I'll

20:38 But Al Sharpton didn't head to Chicago. He headed to St Louis because he has an entirely different agenda, which is the continued conversation between him and White's. Well that is actually not his agenda because he's actually there on a peace mission today but before I go... What? On a peace mission! A peace mission I say! Sharpton is the one that's promoting get out the vote more than any of them Well if you really want to know... The problem is blacks aren't stupid. And this is what slays me, the people who are propagating this I might point out a lot of them white

21:18 are really the most racist MFs in the world by even thinking, by acting like they're so dumb. Yeah no it's pretty obvious this is insulting but anyway we're the racists Rachel Maddow of course I don't know who would call us you and i the racist borderline racist your anatheth I'm the emphasis one guy wrote an emphasis is mine. Yeah, yeah, just got a nasty note from somebody who went on about using the the Ben Shapiro clip and Somebody looked at skate. The guy has been a subscriber to the newsletter since 2011 He's never given this show a nickel. I mean it doesn't really take that much two bucks

CHAPTER 09 / 58 Discussion

Militarization of Police and Eleanor Holmes Norton's Commentary

Rachel Maddow's coverage of the Ferguson police "rioting" is criticized, followed by an analysis of comments from non-voting Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton. Norton suggests that the lack of black elected officials in Ferguson may be due to election fraud or rigging. The discussion posits that the demographic mismatch between the police force and the community is being used as a catalyst for federalizing local law enforcement.

rachel maddow· eleanor holmes norton· ferguson police· voter fraud· black caucus

22:03 and you've at least contributed to the show. But to think that you can be listening to the show for, I don't know five years minimum and never contribute a nickel, you just are essentially taking what you can get for free and then have the gall to make programming suggestions is beyond me! Format and programming recommendations Rachel Maddow and MSNBC again, who were just this is their they're loving it. CNN has the caliphate and MSNBC really took Ferguson but they're mixing it up and Maddow got really confused. The initial crisis in Ferguson was the police shooting this past weekend of that unarmed 18 year old Mike Brown That crisis was created by that police shooting

22:52 Police behavior then also created the following crisis, which was the war zone style incompetent extreme use of force police rioting That's secondary crisis. I'm sorry the police were riding well looks like it to me. I would say yes Okay all right now if you want the person who is going to give you the tell remember this is a woman that I met when Mickey and I were in DC for We went there for the movie screening that turned out to be an Obamacare plug and she showed up. The only Congress, the only representative in Congress who was not allowed to vote

23:34 from the District of Columbia, Washington DC. Eleanor Holmes Norton. Oh God! And we've played many clips of her she is a out and out shill...a horrible person who calls up people and says...somewhere we have that clip she's like yeah I don't see you on my donor list anywhere Um, so yeah. This is obviously a problem maybe you know maybe you want to call me back which is totally illegal when you're in Congress and although she's not really in Congress she's like... She's there but she's not allowed to vote! Yeah she's a non-voting member of congress which is always screwy and of course she gets real constantly reelected and she's just the troublemaker Big trouble maker but does raise a lot of money for her non vote I believe she has influence she's a member of the black caucus

24:22 And she is the tell. Whenever you want to know what the agenda is, she just...she's blatant! Just like she'll call someone up and say, be on my donor list I don't know if we should be talking She will tell you exactly what the messaging is It seemed like this guy who was at of course MSNBC Like they were reading off a script as he is handing the questions to her The problem Congresswoman Is that when you don't really represent A community and you are not elected official You may even actually fear what you don't know and fear going out there. And it has so much to do with the lack of representation of communities, frankly the lack of democratic processes that are not being carried out in places like Ferguson They just don't represent the people they speak to and that they're elected to represent

25:12 Yeah, it's very interesting to note here you have this mostly white police force and a mostly black community. But I'm really perplexed about why most of the elected officials are white as well is there something about the way elections are done in Missouri or in the county? I bet it's fraud. I bet they're rigging the machine." That's troublesome, usually when you get a minority community or a community that becomes mostly minority you get some diversity of representation so you may have an elected leadership as well as a police force that does not feel that they are truly representative of the community and that's poison. Westworld is going to kill black boys! And you know what? Listen to this guy. So participation in the electoral process, to make sure that it your registers to vote and then do vote and later complain when your lack of voting brings up issues like this I mean the fact is... Hey! Hey! Hello Black people

CHAPTER 10 / 58 Discussion

Political Strategy and the Federalization of Police

The unrest in Ferguson is viewed as a "test run" for the 2016 presidential election, aimed at mobilizing the minority vote for candidates like Elizabeth Warren. There is a growing concern that the situation is being manipulated to justify the federalization of local police departments. The hosts argue that the public is being made docile through incestuous messaging between social media and traditional news cycles.

elizabeth warren· 2016 election· police federalization· social media· voter turnout

26:14 Hey black community. You see what happens when you don't have your own elected officials out there people who have had experiences similar to your own I Don't understand that again there may be something about the way The elections are conducted What is she driving at? The way the elections... Is this a setup? She's making an accusation, make it. Is there something coming? Is there some revelation of fraud or voter fraud or redistricting fraud or something bad because she said it twice now in that county but if I were in that community the first thing I'd be doing is organizing voters to go to the polls in November Yep! That's what the Rev is doing

26:59 Yeah, that's what this is for. Somebody saw this... They looked at some demographics and they looked at some census studies and they saw that They're underrepresented, they could take some seats. And I mean it's just like...it was like a kaching came up from somebody's...some strategist. It is gonna happen in the number of places before the...well they don't have much time for 2014 but by 2016 this is like a test run I believe and you're gonna see elsewhere where they need to get the vote out because they don't wanna take a chance

27:37 Especially if they're, you know...they don't know who they're gonna run. They're gonna have to run a white woman for president and they gotta get the...I dunno this is gonna be a tough one because it's going to be Elizabeth Warren and the more I look at it. What I find fascinating is people emailing and saying No, ma'am. And even Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote an op ed in Time and I like what he writes the first thing he says this is not about race it's about poverty well yeah that's partially true but You really are obfuscating the obvious that the politicians really do not care about you. Not about you, not about me... kind of a John... They only care if you vote for them to either put them in power or maintain their power because that's what the system is and it's not any different this is how human nature works

28:32 Except now we have just fabulous ways to manipulate the message with social media and the news cycle, it's all tied in and everybody is married to each other. It's completely incestuous! So I get messaging like well... You know, this is just a setup for the federalization of the police. Yeah yeah okay fine no we don't need that. No! People are completely- They're already like a bunch of soldiers. Yes people are completely docile. Completely docile they will do whatever they're told

CHAPTER 11 / 58 Discussion

Surplus Military Gear and Police Mindset

The acquisition of military-grade surplus gear by domestic police departments through DHS grants is examined. Author Radley Balco discusses how wearing camouflage and using armored vehicles like the Bearcat changes the mindset of police officers, making them view themselves as soldiers rather than public servants. This shift is seen as antagonistic toward the First Amendment and the right to protest.

bearcat· department of homeland security· radley balco· militarization· surplus gear

29:11 You know, bull crap by these by the people. I'm a rule follower So if the rule is that we have to do it and then i'll do it that's right rule followers. I'm a rule follower Yeah So amy goodman of course went to ferguson she what did they have they must? I bet you That these news people been you know They they have i'm sure they're staying at the same hotel They all got to be having sex hanging out just blowing amy goodman yes Oh come on silent waters run deep john I've got no comment on that. Whatever the case, they had a couple of interesting people on the show including the guy that talked about the militaristic police and then this bearcat anecdote...I think these were good clips. They're gonna...they were little longer than I want but I think it's a point we made on the show million times but let's make the point now because they've made the point about the Ferguson Police being armed to the gills from Department of Homeland Security gear. And so we have...

30:09 Surplus, right. Surplus... You know what? Can I ask you an interesting question? They have a lot of this gear like the Bearcat we're going to discuss in a second. Now, Bearcat… To me, a Bearcat is a scanner but that's just me. The Bearcat is big as it's an armored carrier or personnel carrier. Okay good. Do you remember when the discussion… There's all these gears there are these huge personnel carriers. There's one thing, I don't have the clip of it but there are some sort of anti-mine device...the thing that some of the cities don't want because it tears up the streets and they've given them to a bunch of municipalities. Don't you remember when the Iraq War began? These soldiers all bitching about their...they didn't have any armor at all. They had

30:58 People from the United States had to send them Kevlar vests and all the rest. Yeah, how do we go from that? To surplus of an is of such an extreme There's something wrong with this picture That's all I'm trying to say whatever the case is just play a couple these clips militaristic police part one major scale from everything that I could tell but yet they were loaded for war Right, and I think the obvious problem is when we see the weapons. But the uniforms matter when police officers are wearing camouflage it sends a very clear message to... Yeah you can't see them in sand. To the community that they're supposed to be serving it also affects the mindset of the police officer himself

31:43 The idea that when we take domestic police officers and we train them like soldiers, and give them military gear. And dress them up like soldiers and tell them they're fighting a war on crime or terror, they're going to start seeing themselves as soldiers. That's just the mindset that is not that really isn't appropriate for domestic policing. And I think you saw that in the way that they responded to protest, not just at Ferguson but also a lot of the crackdowns on the Occupy protesters on other crackdowns at the political conventions over the years. This has become our default response to protest in the US and it's something that's very antagonistic toward the very idea of free speech and the First Amendment

CHAPTER 12 / 58 Discussion

Lenco Bearcat Marketing and Ferguson Protest Slogans

Marketing materials from Lenco for the Bearcat armored vehicle are contrasted with company claims that the vehicles are for "crisis negotiators." The "Hands up, don't shoot" slogan used in Ferguson is criticized as ineffective, while sympathy protests linking Ferguson to Gaza are noted. The hosts suggest that the public's focus on these events is a distraction from broader issues of militarization.

lenco· bearcat· hands up don't shoot· gaza· protest slogans

32:32 Yeah, this is Radley Balco who wrote a book on the militarization of the American police departments. And he has a number of stories... He's on for quite awhile but this one about the Bearcat kind of amused me and this is the uh... This is...He discusses this device or this personnel carrier. Well you know I've written a lot about the Bearcat. This was one of the new pieces equipment that we have because these DHS grants This is something that's made by a company called Lenco. And, uh, a few years ago I wrote about a town in New Hampshire that sort of rebelled against this their town was going to buy a Bearcat with one of these DHS grants and what was fascinating as I interviewed somebody from the Lenco company and asked him about this and he said no this is all overblown that you know if a bear cat shows up on the scene it's much more likely to be filled with crisis negotiators and psychiatrists than it is with militarized cops

33:28 I found a video that Lenco sends to police departments across the country to market the Bearcats. This is what they send them so that they'll want to buy a Bearcat with this DHS money and the video shows camouflage, clad police officers you know Piled into the barricade it shows up they get out. They start shooting things at one point It pokes a hole into a building and injects tear gas, and was all set to Thunderstruck yeah these are not images and sounds of Crisis negotiator crisis negotiators or you know de-escalation experts this was all about militarism this is all about conflicts in aggression and

34:11 Why is everyone so surprised? Of course we've been talking about this very subject for years, but turn on your television! Just look at the- Look at your movies. Look at the video game. What are you... Are you people nuts?! LenkoArmor.com if you want to see this thing This thing looks like an armored truck It's the funniest looking thing. And then all the photos and everything are just more of the same, but these cops they look like a bunch of... I don't see that there is any... The cops they show in the Lenko webpage and the ISIS guys They're just a bunch of, you know showboaters. They got their faces covered so they can't recognize them... It's just ridiculous! Well we're living in fairy dirt land. This is Disney this is how we live this is what we want and I'm not against cops but I think there's a lot of misguidance and it's no worse than the misguidance that if you go out and your protesting by saying hands up don't shoot that's not a protest

35:18 That's not a good slogan. Whoever thought that was a good slogan is stupid! This is not how you do it, this is not how you make change. And here's the other thing... In New York and across the Brooklyn Bridge there was a sympathy protest By the Palestinians to the Ferguson thing it was like we're for Gaza. We're for Ferguson You know why did I would you be out of control? I think everyone should pour a bucket of ice water over their head if you're against the militarization of America That'd be a better use of the eyes that is the twisted thing at the same time you have that bullcrap going on It is this it is sickening and

CHAPTER 13 / 58 Discussion

Stalker TV Show and Media Image Manipulation

A promo for the new TV show "Stalker" is deconstructed, revealing the use of obvious sound loops for screaming and explosions. This leads to a broader discussion on how the media manipulates images, such as placing "faded bubbles" over graphic content from Ferguson while showing uncensored violence from other conflicts. The inconsistency in what the media deems "too shocking" for the public is highlighted.

stalker· cbs· media manipulation· sound loops· television promos

35:56 for people to be on this seesaw, this roller coaster, this left-right whip. It's very poor for your health. And what is going to make it worse for your health are new shows coming onto the fall schedule like Stalker which I have a little clip of. Oh perfect yeah this is nice. Over six million people are stalked each year in the United States It's driven by rejection. You need to leave, I really want to work this out here. Jealousy. Revenge. Social media is the number one reason stalking cases have tripled in the last decade. Anyone can be a stalker anyone can be a victim

36:49 If you listen to this clip objectively, you will hear the woman screaming in the background is a loop. It's just a... It's a loop! Listen it's a loop it's funny. Anyone can be a stalker anyone can be a victim Here's exactly the same loop. It's I put it in there, too Oh okay, all right, so glad it was so slick wait a minute you sweetened You sweetened your clip I Sweetened my clear liar But that was in there the screaming woman and the explosion and it was and it was like a Wilhelms type scream I mean, it's like it's like an evergreen scream as wise as wow this is you can't fool me. I catch those things oh

37:36 But that's some shitty-ass television promo producer and it was you. Okay, busted! Now here is something that is very bothersome and we'll get to this in a moment with the caliphate as well For two or three weeks we saw Palestinian mothers fathers boys girls men women children being blown to bits Everything's shown, rarely even a warning. Some of these images may shock you yet now all of the sudden we're not seeing anything We can't see...a bloody boy on the street It's too shocking! You have to put a big faded bubble over it Does anyone realize? I think that really the problem is when some when use the reality versus the Hollywood version

CHAPTER 14 / 58 Discussion

CNN Coverage of the Kajieme Powell Shooting

CNN's coverage of the Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis is criticized for pausing the video at the moment of the shooting. Hosts Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon are seen discussing the event without showing the full footage, which the podcast hosts argue is an attempt to massage the message. The discrepancy between showing international violence and censoring domestic police shootings is questioned.

kajieme powell· cnn· chris cuomo· don lemon· st. louis

38:33 Well, it's like gunshots. If you are shooting a gun if you're around gunfire people often say well it was like firecrackers or... It's not the um You know? It's not the sound that we're used to on television. Big cannons going off big AK-47s so it's disappointing and whenever it doesn't match good or bad decisions are made to stop except when it comes to something that clearly is meant send a message to you. So there was another shooting, and by the way they're bringing in big guns for this Ferguson stuff Chris Cuomo who is son of Governor Cuomo who I think came from ABC News This guy's all-in he loves...I would say Anderson Cooper should be afraid of this guy And he's on CNN He does The Morning Show I think Anderson should watch it mind his P's and Q's

39:33 And he's on the street with Don Lemon, of course. We have Dom with his shirt open... you know, his collar open. Yeah, because Don is in a war zone And they're... Where these soldiers lurk. And they're evaluating this tape of this other kid, a couple of interesting data points in this who apparently approaches the police with a knife and winds up getting shot and they're showing you in the video well listen My producer said that they were about to shoot him here and wanted us just to pause and take a look at it Right now why do we stop there? I think its important to bring the chief in We stopped because after that point on the tape Nothing happens except his being shot. There is no movement with his arm, there is no raise of the arm... ...there's no increase in acceleration." So now they're discussing actually the most important part of this video why a police officer shot him but they're not showing that to you and just saying we are going tell you what happens but were not going show- there's no added value to showing you this kid getting shot which is

40:36 It can only mean you're trying to massage the message, set up the stage. We have the visual we see- You almost believe you've seen it now because you're going to hear in this clip... ...you will hear the shots! But the video freezes and you don't see anyone firing or this kid going down to run a distance. Why not?! Have you- Hello? Grand Theft Auto V?? You think we can't handle it? We can shoot a couple of hookers for benefit. Are you saying...what are you trying to tell us here, are you implying that they didn't shoot the guy and this whole thing's...? No! I am saying that...of course the question is why did he shoot him, what was he doing, was there aggression? Simple question. Why can we not see this? Why...? We see everything else. We see Palestinian children being blown up.

41:30 We see movies where horrific things happen. We pay good money to go see horror movies, why will you not show us this? Why not?" What possibly could... Listen to the clip. You've watched the video and what is your assessment because at first there was a story that he had his hand up. You then said well he lunged at officers I don't see that in the video, but the question is... He was wielding a knife over... They're having a discussion about something they won't show us and they're disagreeing on what happened. This is crazy! Yeah he had his hand-he has hand in his pocket and then takes his hand out and keeps it low right we believe from the police that there is a knife in there. Right. He then walks doesn't listen to the officers gets on top of the curb okay moves towards the officers and then get shot We have-we haven now let's take a look Alright good watch for yourself.

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Police Chief Analysis and the Scripted Nature of Unrest

The St. Louis Police Chief's justification for using lethal force against Kajieme Powell is reviewed, specifically the claim that tasers are not 100% effective within 21 feet. The hosts suggest the entire situation is a "controlled scripted situation" designed to avoid a total breakdown of order while still serving the political goal of mobilizing voters. The irregular release of the full video by police is noted as a "twofer" strategy.

kajieme powell· taser· lethal force· st. louis police· media narrative

40:36 It can only mean you're trying to massage the message, set up the stage. We have the visual we see- You almost believe you've seen it now because you're going to hear in this clip... ...you will hear the shots! But the video freezes and you don't see anyone firing or this kid going down to run a distance. Why not?! Have you- Hello? Grand Theft Auto V?? You think we can't handle it? We can shoot a couple of hookers for benefit. Are you saying...what are you trying to tell us here, are you implying that they didn't shoot the guy and this whole thing's...? No! I am saying that...of course the question is why did he shoot him, what was he doing, was there aggression? Simple question. Why can we not see this? Why...? We see everything else. We see Palestinian children being blown up.

41:30 We see movies where horrific things happen. We pay good money to go see horror movies, why will you not show us this? Why not?" What possibly could... Listen to the clip. You've watched the video and what is your assessment because at first there was a story that he had his hand up. You then said well he lunged at officers I don't see that in the video, but the question is... He was wielding a knife over... They're having a discussion about something they won't show us and they're disagreeing on what happened. This is crazy! Yeah he had his hand-he has hand in his pocket and then takes his hand out and keeps it low right we believe from the police that there is a knife in there. Right. He then walks doesn't listen to the officers gets on top of the curb okay moves towards the officers and then get shot We have-we haven now let's take a look Alright good watch for yourself.

42:23 And Chief, I mean you hear the gunshots. He had his hands down at that point did he? So what happened? He did! The suspect came towards the officers and said shoot me now... So again they're telling you what you didn't see because they paused the tape What is this?! Kill Me Now The entire encounter lasted about 15 seconds. He approaches the first officer, heads towards the driver's side backs up a little bit then goes towards the passenger side he starts to move towards the police officer that was in the passenger seat who is out of the car. He has his gun out and giving verbal directions stop drop the knife stop the drive but he continues to move towards the officer. The officer even takes a step backwards to try and put some distance between him

43:03 An edge weapon a knife within 21 feet is the lethal weapon. This is the chief of police telling us what happened that we weren't allowed to see tell me John What is why is this? Wow, this is a there's a little more if you want to just hear it all out Well, I sounds like it's gonna be the same well There's one extra data point that I think isn't put it through and then I'll tell you what I think coming through stand back here It comes people in the community including the guy who takes the video says We know this guy the store owner knows this guy he's known to be, to have some problems. Emotional, mental whatever they are he has them why isn't that something that the police weren't told in the 911 call and does it speak to community policing knowing who you're around not obviously knowing everything about everybody but that's this second question we've been talking a lot about community policing and also the use of force is it appropriate? Why use bullets? Why not use a stun gun now why not use a stun gun John if the guy has a knife

43:59 And we just heard within 21 feet that is an attack with a lethal weapon, an edge weapon. Yeah why they taser him? Why well do you have any idea? The chief of police will tell us, I just wonder if you want to hear what he says. Well certainly a taser is an option that's available to the officers but tasers aren't 100 percent so you've got an individual armed with a knife really moving towards you not listening to any verbal commands continues says shoot me now kill me now tasers aren't 100 percent if that taser misses that subject continues on and hurts an officer You think the use of force was appropriate in this case? Really? I didn't know tasers were not one hundred percent Seems to work pretty effectively from what I've seen. Well, I use them at all if you're gonna use that as an excuse by the way But we should tase anybody yeah

44:46 Kill lots of people die from tase. This is just to indicates to me that we're dealing with a controlled scripted situation Thank you yes, and it is that they if they actually showed the ridiculous pumping of lead into this character It would have actually incited some serious problems in may bring it might burn down st.. Louis gotcha So you pull back on this because it's this whole thing is they got a director and say no we can't go that far Yeah, the guy's dead It's tough tough crap. He's dead right But we can't we know we're here for a reason the reason is to get out the black vote And did we have this thing under control? We're on a peace mission run a peace mission with the blacks or if anybody saw this just a gun down of this poor bastard who was apparently an idiot

45:35 uh... just gunned down with like it sounds like he unloaded his weapon into the guy this could trigger that would be destroyed and we break the camels back and it could trigger massive real right now these bullcrap is going on but massive real burned down saint louis citizen as an extra edge to chicago while rather doesn't exist an extra dimension to this the police released this video, which is also highly irregular for them to release. They released this video in its entirety where you do see the kid being shot but this is one of those instances where no one's showing it so I guess they did a kind of a twofer we'll release it but we're not going to show it We're gonna analyze it but only with what we say we saw

CHAPTER 16 / 58 Discussion

Sandy Hook Report and Hedy Epstein's Activism

The upcoming final report from the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission is mentioned, noting it will not include an analysis of Adam Lanza. The discussion then turns to Hedy Epstein, a 90-year-old activist arrested in St. Louis. The hosts dispute her "Holocaust survivor" label, noting she left Germany on a Kindertransport in 1939 and never entered a concentration camp, calling the media's portrayal a manipulation.

sandy hook· adam lanza· hedy epstein· amy goodman· holocaust survivor

46:29 Yeah, and this is similar to the tapes. The Sandy Hook tapes. 9-11 calls. Well, that's Sandy Hook is the best example where they release the tapes and then everyone there's a gentleman's agreement amongst the media which is by the way I'm gonna remind people that you're listening to this show for a reason yeah it's because the media is no good his bus is broke only way to put just on sandy hook the sandy hook Advisory Commission It will be releasing its final report in a couple of weeks. They say it is unlikely it will include an analysis of Adam Lanza. Hamden Mayor Scott Jackson says, our report is not going to be a deconstruction of Adam Lanza." Well isn't that kind of the whole point? Because why did he do it?

47:22 Anyway, side note just because I had that story so I'm watching Amy Goodman and She's got some woman some old lady named Hedy Epstein Why does that name ring a bell? It sees a 90 year old woman who just keeps getting arrested for protesting All these people should stop the violence And she said and I want you to listen to the introduction to her which is the Heidi at the Hetty Epstein Epstein WTF part one our guest Maria Chappelle Nadal Missouri State Senator as we end today's show with Hedy Epstein she is a 90 year old Holocaust survivor who was arrested on Monday in st. Louis when she was part of

48:08 of a protest outside of Governor Jay Nixon's office. Hedy Epstein is co-founder of the St Louis Palestine Solidarity Committee and St Louis branch of Jewish Voice for Peace in 2011, she was part of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla. She's a troublemaker! Yeah she's an old lady that said it really is just a pro-Palestinian self loathing Jew By the way I hope I'm a trouble maker like that when I am 90? I hope you are too Hedy Epstein, now play part two and there's a discrepancy here I want to discuss. He is doing the same kind of violence that I've observed when I was in the Israeli occupied Palestine

48:51 It's just abominable what is happening. Where were you born? I was born in Germany and i left in May 1939 on a hindered transport or childrens transport to England, I came to this country in May 1948 What fools you keeps you going by the way happy birthday you just celebrated your 90th birthday. She knows a discrepancy piece of information Or either that or I'm completely oblivious to terminology nowadays. Abominable? Whatever she said, she says they introduce her as a Holocaust survivor and that's the way she presents herself

49:35 Right. She left Germany in 1939 on a kid transport to England where she went to the United States, so are you telling me that if you were ever a German I guess or a German Jew, you're a Holocaust survivor even though you never went to a concentration camp? Well let me ask you a question did she die at the hands of the Nazis? No. Holocaust survivor well apparently that's what it means nowadays She wasn't in the Holocaust. She wasn't taken into an internment camp as a child or anything else, but she calls herself a Holocaust survivor so apparently now the left and I would accuse them of that. Can i just ask a question? Does she present herself that way or is that what Amy Goodman did? And I believe if you do some research you'll find out that's the way everybody presents her okay well That's different than her presenting So you get cred, you get street cred for being a holocaust survivor even though we were never part of that at all

50:32 That's what we're dealing with. You mean in the media? Yes, in the media. I would just say that is a lie! And that is your public media, the oh-so trusted... Mistakes get made We make them all of time but it's just color It's just set up, it's manipulation Every single bit of it is manipulation There are scripts running so far and wide right now People are being called back from The Hamptons Oh man, we got... crisis firms! PR firms. People on cell phones and taking choppers back into Manhattan We got stuff to do people We've got campaigns to run, we've got signs to print We've got agent provocateurs to send out That of course is really the problem now They were talking about let everyone go into the green zone to protest Fabulous Alright

CHAPTER 17 / 58 Discussion

Republican Strategy and No Agenda Stream Updates

The political landscape is discussed in terms of how Democrats use social issues to alienate women and minorities from the Republican party. Technical updates for the No Agenda stream are provided, urging app developers to update their locations. The hosts reflect on the "incestuous" nature of modern political messaging and the importance of maintaining control over their own distribution channels.

republicans· trayvon martin· demographics· noagendastream.com· app developers

51:29 Think we're done with the for now for now Ferguson things this I wish you hope it would have hoped that it ended by now But they're going to milk it for all its worth And so will we With his nice don't be like the guy said 26 people were killed in Chicago just says this thing is going on. Yeah, no one cares And you know, the president... everyone's in on it. If you see this in any other light then I'm sorry there is no hope for you This is so obvious and yes It is that cynical That people really will do anything and this what they wanted with Trayvon This is what has been going on This is the whole plan The whole idea We got the women by saying Republicans like killing fetuses

52:24 I'm sorry, i got it mixed up. Republicans want guns which will kill your children in school... Republicans hate women because they you know they want to be in their vagina These are the words that are used! This is not Adam talking and so I think we've got the women pretty covered. Why would a woman in America today vote for any Republican candidate? It makes no sense So that's, so we've got that one in. That checkmark is done now I also think really if you look at it 13% of the population is what Jason Reilly was saying If African-American is only 13 percent of the population which seems low but okay could be... I thought it was closer to 20 but it could be 13 because Hispanics has gone way up Right they don't count They're not black

53:16 And they're also religious mostly, and it's a real problem that Democrats don't quite have to deal with. They don't know how to do the Latino... Well, they tried that. They're trying the Latino thing with the immigration reform. Yeah, this is about as far as I can go. This is how you have to look at it and that's how you stay in control of the American corporation, America Inc., yes! That's how you stay in control of it. Why don't we slow down for just one moment? As I thank you for your courage And say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak! Well in the morning to you Adam Curry and also in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air... Subs in the water! ...and all the dames and all the knights out there. And in the morning to everyone in the chatroom noagendastream.com good to see you all there App developers we have changed our stream locations Please

CHAPTER 18 / 58 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Evergreen Content Guidelines

The show's cover art for episode 644, created by Alexander Nori, is praised. The hosts remind artists not to include episode numbers in their submissions to ensure the art remains "evergreen" for future use. Specific pieces, such as "20 Watt Bulbs" and a caricature of John Kerry with a watermelon hat, are highlighted for their originality and professional appearance in podcast apps.

alexander nori· john kerry· podcast art· itunes· evergreen content

54:10 Make sure you have new stream New streams updated in your apps. Yes people make apps and then they forget about them and also I have to say it's hard because Sometimes you're forced the way I certainly the way Apple does things you force into hard coding certain information resources or maybe if it may be just poor coding, but you know things shit happens but then too you have to update the app, which is crappy on two ends. One you have to do the work submitted to Apple they have to approve it and then you need to presume that everyone's going to update the app which I'd say is probably below percentages Yeah and this will be the last time that we have to make a change like this yeah no I agree We have pretty much control over pretty much everything now I mean control is not right word but we have access to changing information

55:07 Within our within our reach we have control of the vertical control of the horizontal. That's a reference I don't know what you're talking about that was from One of those Twilight Zone like shows it was the Twilight Zone the outer limits ah and in the morning to our artists Yeah, let's talk about the art for a second first Let me thank Alexander Nori who delivered the art forest where episode 6 4 4 nice job We had a lot of really good art out of the blue. This happens, it's very cyclical sometimes we get like five pieces and then we get 550 pieces It was a whole page just for that one episode That hasn't happened in a long time Now there were... The piece I liked the most, I want to make sure this gets out Wait! We decided together? Yes no, we decided together because it was because we had to vote Yeah, we decided together

56:03 But I want to mention the one piece, a couple of pieces that I thought were just so outstanding that we did have to argue about. And one of them I thought was just personally...I was going to use it here. The joke of this is I was going to use in the newsletter and then decided not to anyway. Okay? This was 20 watt bulbs cheap slaves. Yeah, I liked that one too. That was good. Outstanding piece very original and great And it connects to the show. I don't think 21Ball's been doing some really good originals, really original or good ideas but he apparently never got the memo... He did another piece for this show called League of No Agenda with No Agenda Show, Devorah Curry 644 we do not want you see the episode numbers in art because we can use it as evergreen. Because they can't use it next week if we wanted too so please don't put the episode number in the art

56:53 Or if you do, then just keep resubmitting that exact same piece with another episode number. And I don't think you want to do that. So I ended up using another piece that I liked a lot for the newsletter which was the John Melonhead Carey. That was so funny! With a watermelon on his head He's wearing a watermelon cap like... If you remember that little kitten who had that watermelon cap? It was popular few years back Oh, you mean the one you had on your Skype icon Yes, I had on my sky bike conduit for a decade wearing a football helmet made out of a small lemon. And anyway just wanted to say that we get a lot of good art and there's other pieces on there that are dynamite but those are the ones I wanted to mention. And just thanks again everyone who submits and who participates in this it makes such a difference when you open up a podcast app

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Executive Producer Donations and the Value-for-Value Model

New Executive Producers, including "Sports Junk" (P. Dilley), are acknowledged for their significant contributions. The hosts discuss the "value-for-value" model, contrasting it with the NPR or advertising-supported models. They express gratitude for the independence provided by direct listener support, which allows them to avoid corporate meetings and maintain an authentic tone.

sports junk· p. dilley· value-for-value· npr· de-douching

57:44 Or you look at your iTunes podcast, however you get in it and there's a new piece of art. It jumps out at you! People get used to the same art and now we finally figured out how to make it change in most podcast apps is good Then its fun when your driving in the car You got on mid console there. It looks professional Thank-you And let's face it Unlike some people Some peoples opinions are podcasts We try to be professional Not just amateurs who have passion Right, Amateurs with a Passion. The No Agenda Show! Two amateurs with passion and no listeners But we didn't have a lot of contributors for this show talking about no listeners but I want to mention the two that did for the executive producerships although i'm going to give it to 1 third I'll tell you why as we get there but Sports Junk in Arlington Texas became an Insta-Nite Nice

58:42 It's P. Dilley and we want to, he wanted to read his notices. Thanks for not calling me out as a douchebag on Sunday show I've been listening since the beginning so i needed a really really big de-douching He needs that immediately Okay let's hand it out right now Let's not wait any longer You've been de-douched For my information My information I'm guessing because she is referring to the DHM Plug Show which I guess he listens too but Facebook at 1794 Based on our advice. Yeah, I guess anyway thanks for that one excited to be a knight hope to see you again And he's got it He wants to be the knowledge of the night whose who says me what he'd send another note in oh? Then so put it on there than night Who says Nick which is a reference to money python my night who says me? Oh, I got it's in these thank you Eric It's and I yeah

59:39 Well, I have to say when i see an instant night donation particularly after the amount of work we do. I am so happy this makes me very happy! I feel appreciated and sure you feel appreciated too. Oh yeah, I love the instant nights any donation is just I was talking at the family reunion. I was telling, well you know people support the show like NPR? Uh no You have to get into all that No They play as- no it's underr- no they play Screw it Really they just send you money yeah isn't crazy maybe its an outstanding product

1:00:20 I just, i'm so happy. You know we're not rich guys but i'm so happy! I don't have to suck some advertiser, I don't have to have a meeting...I don't have to sound all happy and chipper." Right yeah and it's really good for me because like it's really almost impossible for me to sound happy and chipper. I've tried. All my happiness comes through the harmonica Sir Scott, or Sir Scott. And thank you for defending our model recently on whatever show I saw you. That was good! I'm happy... I wanted to go further with my argument but I decided to pull back the reins Johnny. Good work. Scott Hale, Entrelac Monmouthshire UK

CHAPTER 20 / 58 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers and the Gitmo Anthem

Scott Hale and Lennart Tiberian are named Associate Executive Producers after contributing to the show. Hale requests the "Gitmo Anthem" to be played, citing a desire to redirect funds away from the UK Inland Revenue. A brief mention is made of a $132 million ransom demand for a journalist, noting the confusion in media reporting regarding currency conversions.

scott hale· lennart tiberian· gitmo anthem· uk inland revenue· ransom

1:01:08 $200 and he becomes associate executive producer. Hey, John and Adam your show has been twice weekly... Ta-da! Hey John and Adam your show has been the twice weekly audio for my commute here in Gitmo East from day one I now find myself with an opportunity to rid my company of 130 pounds in legitimate business expenses or else pay more in tax to those robbing bastards in the UK inland revenue. Well that's no good So here it is. If not too long, could you please play the Gitmo Anthem? Can we play that at the end of the show?" Yeah, we'll play it at the end of the show, of course. Meanwhile I will continue... Remind me please! Remind me from your heart. Okay let me put it down in a book. Git-Mo Anthem. In the book. That'll help. It might. There's always a possibility to help and might not. You could have played it by now

1:02:01 If not too long as you please play the get more at anthem meanwhile I will continue spreading the formula by hitting Facebook friends in the mouth by posting the real reasons behind The so-called news events and their status updates loving you both by curiously Scott Got to keep now wait, oh now we have a you're pulling someone in. Oh And I'll tell you why, you can tell me if i'm wrong on this but Sir E. Leonard Tiberian in Groningen sent in $199 and I believe because the euro had slipped a little it was supposed to be 200 and he just slipped under the number there yes so I want to put him in at 199 as

1:03:00 Because of his intentions to be an associate executive producer. I completely agree! We'll have two instead of one... It's for this very reason that they have the Chiron operators on these so-called news channels are working overtime because first day it was you know we had this a hundred and thirty three million dollar ransom that was offered there was demanded for this journalist and they have to turn it back to 132 million because of course they asked for 100,000 million euros. Apparently! Yeah no one knows what to do anymore all confused yeah well thank you very much sir Lennart

CHAPTER 21 / 58 Discussion

Adam Curry's Amsterdam Trip and Voiceover Gigs

Adam Curry announces an upcoming trip to Amsterdam for family birthdays and plans to broadcast from Europe. He also reveals he landed a voiceover gig performing an impression of Frank Underwood from "House of Cards" for a corporate presentation. The hosts discuss the process of auditioning and the benefits of getting "out of the house" for professional work.

amsterdam· frank underwood· house of cards· voiceover· audition

1:03:36 Yeah, and there's no note. Just Baron Landers he is a Baron You know I'm flying to Amsterdam on Monday Everythings coming up quick What? Yeah yeah it was my daughters birthday on the 27th And then my birthday on the 3rd and then i stay a couple more days I think i fly back on the 9th So you're gonna be broadcasting from Europe? Yeah absolutely Interesting Why? Well I was gonna go You're still welcome. I may still sneak over there if i can find some way of doing it, to sell something. I will say... To sell some of my art! Maybe an oil painting? I will say that everyone who I hold dear to my heart is going to be there which is why- It's everyone?! I understand if you don't want to come because that's just you not a problem but you do belong there no doubt Is Leo gonna be there? Hey uh

1:04:35 Very, very funny. Hey I got a gig! I almost forgot to tell you. Well let me first say that i think people should note that we do have another show coming up on Sunday and so it's just a few days off and go to Dvorak.org slash NA and become an instantite Good idea Nobody except for the first time they offered the 666 deal nobody has jumped in on that and so I'm gonna... It's not gonna... We're not going to get a lot of 666s except on this show maybe You got a gig. I guess what? I got a gig as a DJ No Voice over I do declare I've been asked to do Frank Underwood for a small company presentation What?

1:05:18 I've been asked to do a voiceover for an in-house company presentation. And so you're going to use Frank Underwood's voice? That's what they want me to do! Okay, well let's hear a little bit of it... Did you have to audition for this or did...? I did, and you sounded more like Frank Underwood than all the other auditioners?! Apparently. Yeah, I've got the gig. Reads from the script? Do you want to hear it? I think I have it here somewhere... Just read a couple lines from the script in Frank Underwood's voice. I have the audition, I think Oh! You have on tape? Yes, somewhere I have it Play us at the audition that would be because then we know how you close the deal It's good. You finally made a little money on it. I probably shouldn't do that. Sounds more like you!

1:06:08 Oh, they said... and I said look. They want to do it yesterday so I really can't do this and need direction. They said just read this you know and then we'll direct you later. And they said do it slower but they like it enough to... Okay well probably direct your right into it Yes thank you for your congratulations! I'm very happy. I think that's great It's about time. And it's not a national commercial or anything, I don't get residuals but yeah! Besides the point... Get out and get some more work. Yeah all right it's also good because you get anecdotal material for the show exactly and uh- Get out of the house that's the way I say it so what I want next is I want someone to hire me. Hey Freddy the fireman

CHAPTER 22 / 58 Discussion

Clive Palmer and Australian Political Correctness

Australian politician Clive Palmer is featured for his outspoken comments against the Chinese government and Rupert Murdoch. Palmer is praised by the hosts for his lack of "cultural Marxism" and political correctness. The segment includes clips of Palmer denying allegations of siphoning funds and accusing the Chinese of wanting to destroy the Australian wage system.

clive palmer· australia· rupert murdoch· china· cultural marxism

1:06:51 That's what I wanted. We have a whole commercial cartoon series ready for that one, and you've written script! Let's handle a little bit of karma for everybody which i always like to include some job karma because even if you are royalty and of the roundtable here on no agenda it's always handy To have something never can have too much jobs jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You got Karma And as John said please help us out for Sunday show. It is the only way we keep the show on the road because trust me I'm not gonna get a lot of Frank Underwood gigs. Dvorak dot org slash N A Of course, you can always help us out by doing one very simple thing going out and propagating our formula! Our formula is this We hit people in the mouth Order Shut up Slave

1:07:55 Shut up, Slade! What the hell is that? Whoa. I don't know where that came from... What was all that?! I don't know! I was trying to get- Our band came through your place Get those guys out of there That's what i was trying to play The Marching Pigs which fits so nicely and then another marching band showed up Oh here it is! And you will all surrender to them You pigs and humans That's right We know the marching pigs. We know the score I want to say hello to our friends in Australia we have a lot of listeners in Australia traditionally they are big supporters of the program, Australia and New Zealand but Australia is bigger yeah new zealanders are more... Yeah, we don't have as many And you'll recall we were following the elections and they have this guy who was pretty funny this Clive Palmer

1:08:59 Kind of a blowhard. Yeah, there's a lot of blowhards in Australia yeah I like this guy If only because he's great material for our show and i think he also represents in a way the australian Also, I think the Australians so I was there in 1990 um I believe that's before the guns were taken away And you know I did a documentary and I went out on the Outback and I Went on the mail truck and for three days You deliver the mail And I drank, I did a Spencer's and Bachelors ball. We've talked about that haven't we? What that is? Yeah yeah okay I guess we don't have to reiterate everyone knows no no no no no I backed the Ute! Yeah I heard that. I backed the Ute and in some ways I feel Australians have been castrated. De-bowled if you were. A little bit but Clive Palmer brings it back particularly when it comes to the Chinese

1:09:59 What we're not saying, or what we on the show say all the time of course... He is protecting his turf. Here's a little package about his most recent statements about the Chinas. I like how it only raised eyebrows, here in America we'd be outraged! We have talk shows... Racist! He said they were mongrels. He should have said they eat dogs, but he didn't go that far. The federal MP had been questioned over allegations he funneled cash from his Port Palmer operations to help fund his election campaign. See immediately they're going to try and smear him. Campaign. Palmer strenuously denied the claims at one point accusing ABC host Tony Jones of being influenced by Rupert Murdoch It's a lie it's not true and we'll deal with that matter you've been reading too much of The Australian what Rupert Murdoch is telling me from New York

1:10:59 It's just not true. He then deflected his attention to his former Chinese business partners The one stop the fact that the Chinese government wants to bring workers here destroy our wage system One stop the fact that they want take over our ports and get our resources for free, okay? I don't mind standing up against the Chinese but and stop him from doing it. The mining magnet has been accused by Chinese-owned CITIC Pacific of siphoning more than $12 million to fund his personal interests, an accusation he has denied. Palmer said he'll be taking the matter to court next week I like this guy! He's just saying it You have no cultural Marxism, no political correctness. Yeah there is plenty of it. There's probably more there than there is here and he won't get anywhere because of it that's my way of looking at it. Well he already has a vote I mean he is in

CHAPTER 23 / 58 Discussion

Independent Intelligence Network and Media Lists

The "No Agenda Independent Intelligence Network" is credited for providing boots-on-the-ground information, specifically regarding the Iceland volcano. The hosts discuss how traditional media outlets like the New York Times use "stringers" and how they themselves used to be on media lists for shows like Maury Povich and Joan Rivers during the 1990s.

iceland· mtv· maury povich· joan rivers· stringers

1:11:46 Well, we'll see how far he gets. You said something in the newsletter which I was actually went and found a clip about the Iceland volcano Oh yeah yes we should probably mention the Iceland volcano For number of reasons because that we have as you know producers everywhere so what call our listeners they're producers they produce program more ways than one by sending us information because i don't know there their It's called our intelligence network We have our own our intelligence network. We have and we have our own independent intelligence network it works quite well for us write that down, write that down okay vast independent intelligence network and we need some more with

1:12:32 We need some more... we'll work on the word. I like this, but it is an intelligence network unlike The New York Times you know they if they want to find someone in Iceland they have a book don't they have a book isn't that how it works? You call the resource department and say who do we have in Iceland Actually, the way it's compartmentalized is that they end up having to call a bunch of different people in the company until somebody has an Iceland stringer or somebody used to be an Iceland stringer. They've cut off most of these people. But as a source you get on lists? I used to be on list when I was at MTV

1:13:08 If there was a music story. Yeah, no I'm on a bunch of lists. I'm on the list for ABC still the number of radio stations one south and one up here or one in somewhere Minnesota. I got voted off all islands somehow i think you always get voted unless you're calling them up and and you know reminding them that they you know they should call you once in awhile you'll never get called Well back in the late 80s and 90s, I got called. I think I tweeted a link to the YouTube video where I was on the... What's that douchebag who married Connie Chung? Maury Povich show. Yeah, Povich I Joan Rivers. I was always called on to do those shows it was a lot of fun yeah Well they don't have shows anymore totally fake and courses you know that's bogative Anyway go on okay with our Iceland stuff So do you want the boots-on-the-ground report first and then listen what CNN has to say or? When this happened last time I will remind you and I'll give you this information there was

CHAPTER 24 / 58 Discussion

Iceland Volcano Seismic Activity and Media Fearmongering

Reports of seismic activity at Iceland's Bardabunga volcano are compared to the 2010 eruption that grounded European flights. A producer in Selfoss, Iceland, provides a report stating that the magma is deep and not currently a threat, contradicting the "fearmongering" tone of CNN's coverage. The hosts recall how the 2010 flight grounding was based on flawed computer models rather than actual ash density.

bardabunga· iceland· cnn· volcanic ash· seismic activity

1:14:11 European airspace shut down and being an aviator, having plenty of friends in aviation We were in constant contact and it was the most beautiful flying weather ever. There was not a speck of volcanic ash, but the computer models had calculated that this was going to bring aircraft tumbling down all across Europe. It's the global warming computer model. Same computer model yeah same computer model People were stuck on vacations, they couldn't get back. They were sleeping at airports for weeks and you know they were running out of money there was no rental cars it was terrible! It was a disaster yet the skies were completely ash free for most of Europe and it was I remember didn't even many people had a jingle for it? It was so crazy...it was a week! So CNN is now talking about this and they have a name for which will be on lookout for

1:15:09 And this report is interesting because it does go back and tell you about all the horrible things that happened. I presume or assume to make you feel worried. European travelers be warned seismic authorities in Iceland have... That's me! Wait a minute, that's me! I'm traveling to Europe on Monday. I should be warned! European travelers, be warned! Seismic authorities in Iceland have said that its largest volcano could erupt at any time On Monday the area suffered its biggest earthquake since 1996 and molten lava is on the move The reason we are reacting this way Is that one round of quakes is bigger and more powerful than what we've seen for a long time

1:15:54 In 2010, air travelers around the world were massively disrupted when another Icelandic volcano spewed an ash cloud with glass-like fragments high into European airspace. There was an unprecedented grounding of flights across northern Europe for six days, stranding millions of passengers. Some airlines were furious at the shutdown saying European authorities overreacted. It was causing problems for millions of passengers The airlines themselves were losing a lot of money because they couldn't fly and the customer relations department of airlines were really suffering because they were taking huge numbers of complaints and had no solution. It then took days for airlines to get their planes, and their staff in the right places. Travelers going to airports each day only to be told they had no seats some had to vacate hotels as reservations ran out or credit cards did

1:16:53 Ports and trains were swamped rental cars abandoned after people drove them one way to get closer to home And airlines from Asia and North America could not fly in and out of Northern Europe either So our producer with boots on the ground this is totally meant to just frighten you or whatever I like it. Oh, I like it too This is from Kristen I'm Lexis Christens, female in Selfoss Iceland. Quick note here from Iceland Selfoss is about 100 miles from Bardabunga bingo boom shakalaka The quakes and magma have all been about 5 to 10 kilometers deep and are not moving closer to the surface So there's nothing happening right away if at all

1:17:42 This is just Icelandic journalists that like to get their news to the world press. Okay, I believe it! I believe it too Why would they do that? But they still have something has to blow up in Iceland one of these days because... It does yeah but it's time for sure And this apparently is a whopper. It's not part of the same chain as the other one, historically that last one that went off has a sister next to it and that's the one that supposed to go off next not this which is over somewhere else That's all right, whatever. It's okay I think you'll get over there and make it what do you could get stuck over there under some circumstance like you did when Mickey couldn't get back into the country? And then we could take cool pictures for the newsletter! Yeah great pictures for the newsletter people were sympathetic I thought it helped to show your newsletter is a work of art man I really have to say and I got in the show notes under

CHAPTER 25 / 58 Discussion

Vocabulary Expansion and Modern Cliches

The hosts discuss their efforts to avoid modern linguistic cliches such as "epic," "amazing," and "at the end of the day." They reflect on how the vocabulary of modern culture has become limited and repetitive. A listener's feedback regarding the word "weird" prompts a self-correction to expand their descriptive language during the broadcast.

vocabulary· cliches· epic· amazing· end of the day

1:18:38 Clips and stuff will put a couple of pictures of the people made with these selfie template that you want somebody took this selfie template And I think the best one. I got it after I sent the newsletter out or otherwise, I would have included it Which was just to take the template as is and draw two huge black alien? Yeah the alien one yeah It's outstanding It actually fits well second half material. I don't know if we should job I got second half stuff deals with aliens, but all this is a couple of cool ones me was Sharpton There's me with Leo yeah, so the old one Yeah, those guys have big heads big heads rule on television its fact it always works We haven't documented by other experts So I want to remind people go to Dvorak org slash na and give us a hand for the show coming up on Sunday again

1:19:32 Everyone's welcome, any amount is useful and helpful. It keeps the show going. It's a very good show! I enjoy it sometimes I listen to our own show and enjoy it. We got a words matter email from one of our knights who was having a real hard time getting through your spam filter Sir DH Slammer Yeah, DH Slammer Did you fix that up? For some reason he's blacklisted with your system...I don't know He needs help anyway Another word, as we've been trying to...I think we haven't used the word weird at all during this broadcast which is almost an hour and 15 minutes. Very good. Well thank you We're very aware in trying to expand our vocabulary and take it past the cliches. Well not just the cliches but the very poor limited vocabulary of today's modern culture

1:20:32 And you're gonna be hearing the truth of the matter more and more. Oh, how about end of the day? I'm hearing that more and more this is into today Yeah at the end of the day this is coming back now. I don't like this hmm there was there was a Hope I don't pick that one up The End Of The Day now You won't do that the end but I've heard that many times at the end of the day that one's coming up we have Mickey has a an assistant who comes by and helps her once a week with some photoshop stuff, she's 24 I think. And she is now into it, trying to catch herself. She says, I remember the first time we used Epic!

CHAPTER 26 / 58 Discussion

Etymology of Decimated and Penal Code

A listener's "words matter" email sparks a debate over the definition of "decimated," which historically meant killing one in ten but has evolved to mean total destruction. This leads to a humorous and speculative discussion on the etymology of terms like "penal code," "testimony," and "gay," exploring how meanings have shifted over centuries.

decimate· penal code· etymology· testimony· language evolution

1:21:09 This is not good. I said no, that's not good You should not be using epic when anyone says them the one that we got out of which I think it when We first started this was with amazing or fact to the matter one of the two. I think it was amazing awesome Use awesome that much it was amazing problem Amazing around me now I go Yeah, this is one of the most requested ringtones Sir DH Slammer says, um... I bet you are aware of the definition of the word decimated. You used it in show 643 to describe what looters did to a Target store in Ferguson Decimated? Admittedly is a rarely used word but as one of my pet peeve words along with irregardless and etc Well irregardless isn't a word No that's why its one his pet peeves people use that irregardless well decimate IS a word decimate

1:22:08 The popular DESA definition means to eliminate every tenth thing, not bring it down to a tenth in size. That's his point. Well... let me go- I think it is debatable! I think its debatable and... Well lets go with the DESA making definitions. Kill one in every 10 as punishment for the whole group It would make sense because the uh... DESA of course is 10 to just kill destroy remove a large percentage I think it's just morphed historically it means kill one in every 10. A group of soldiers as a punishment for the whole group he says long and long is long changed

1:22:52 You know, the penal code comes from the word penis. That doesn't mean you write it on a dick. Wait a minute... Really? Yeah So how did we go from penis to doing the penile code? Because it was always about men were committing all of the crimes And it became the penal code that had to do with men. Wow, I didn't know that! Well check into it...I don't know the exact details. This is nice little- I'm making it up. This is nice- I think you are! No no, I'm not making this up. It's a nice little factoid? Huh, I like that. Penal code indeed. Uh okay, uh guess we should- That's what testimony used to be used for. Used- had to do with testes

1:23:38 And you give testimony mean that you'd hold your nuts, you know Hold me one hand up and one on your nuts. Yeah when gay used to mean happy and frolic it used to mean happy Mm-hmm happy and fag use the cigarette Cigarette and douchebag used to mean a douchebag I do actual bag Wash yourself Precisely huh? I'm ready for this if you are Can't think I think I'm gonna crack my pants. Now there, um... It is well known in political circles and media land who of course operate together if you want the press to pay attention to a story kill a journalist it usually helps yeah it draws attention to the situation now this has sparked so much

CHAPTER 27 / 58 Discussion

James Foley Beheading Video Analysis

The video of journalist James Foley's alleged beheading by ISIS is scrutinized for signs of being staged. Observations include the lack of blood during the initial cutting, the use of a wireless lavalier microphone on Foley, and the "fade to black" before the actual execution. The hosts suggest the production quality and staging indicate a psychological operation rather than a spontaneous act.

james foley· isis· beheading· video analysis· wireless mic

1:24:42 in such a short amount of time, including yet another statement from the president. Of course I went to look at the video this is the beheading video James Foley Okay You have seen the video I presume John No actually I avoided it I figured it was a phony video and wasn't going to look because I'm sure it was well produced Oh wow this is unfortunate Okay you want me go look at now? I think that would be valuable Give me link Maybe a link. Okay, well let me just do beheaded Beheaded Yeah, cuz this to me was a non story so I wasn't well you can say it's an on-story when no It's not to me. I said it to me. Oh, I didn't it wasn't something I was gonna discuss I figured you might be headed video What's the guys name Foley Foley foly which is also just not our fully was wrong But I haven't heard from him So I presume it's like yeah now while you're looking for said video I shall explain what you see do and if you need to see this video? I cannot believe you didn't see this

1:25:47 All right, I don't like watching beheading. Well the thing is you don't see the beheading that's the whole joke Oh another one of those they fade to black while he's using a very small knife to To carve into his throat which produces no blood splatter whatsoever fades to black it should because you cut that artery over there And it's gonna go all the order and then you see The next shot is what? I think is just about the worst Photoshop in the world including a phony drop shadow The guy's head on his back. Do you have the video yet? I can't find it oh Okay, let me go to YouTube they must have it there that's of course you haven't on YouTube well he may not Do I have to send you a link serious? I'll find it before you have to send it don't worry okay now I'm just gonna go to be heading and you too behead fully

1:26:45 Now we get somebody at the door, Devorah why do you want to behead Foley? I'm going to while you're looking for that. Here it is video shows Islamic State beheading US journalist James Foley Yeah ISB heads kidnapped journalist James okay this looks like yet oh this video is no longer available because the YouTube account has been terminated let me try another one. See I can't...this is no good Try this one continue I'm going to while Okay I'm watching it now okay It was kind of important you need to listen to the sound and it's a British, guy with a British accent. The first you see Foley reading a script which is either on a teleprompter or cue card typically these things when done in the desert are done with a piece of paper but I guess they have big cue cards You know how they read from a piece of paper?

1:27:40 So there are cue cards. He's got a wireless lav on, which... It's got a wireless lav! Nice! Yeah this is nice touch Which then in the next shot is I mean you'll see the guy in the black next to him doesn't have a knife and then they cut to the next shot and now this guy has the wireless mic on and now he has a knife and then he goes to cut his throat but you'll see that they fade to black And uh..I'll just wait until you get to the end Uh..and-and the guy who's speaking at the Islamic stage Oh hold on It's too gruesome for us to show according to CNN. Now I just have a bunch of still shots. Oh, I uh... Would somebody please? Alright. An expert You'll just have to believe me you don't-you don't there is no the original video does not include

CHAPTER 28 / 58 Discussion

Media Reaction to James Foley and Hostage History

The media's emotional response to James Foley's death is analyzed, noting his history of being held captive in Libya in 2011 before his 2012 abduction in Syria. The segment highlights the "gentleman's agreement" among media outlets to not show the graphic parts of the video, which the hosts argue helps hide potential inconsistencies in the footage.

james foley· today show· syria· libya· ransom

1:28:26 Here's the Today Show and it'll give you a little background including about Foley who has been missing in captivity apparently since 2012. We have to start with an horrific story this morning. These images we're seeing, we're not going to be showing but of the... Again! We are not gonna show these horrific images A because its clearly kind of fake. Good morning, Matt. ISIS terrorists say that they killed American journalist James Foley in retribution for America's recent airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and they are now threatening another slaying unless President Obama backs down. James Foley seen here just prior to his gruesome execution by ISIS the radical Islamist group

1:29:31 Foley has been missing for two years, believed held with other Western hostages near Raqqa in northern Syria. Check your email. You got a link to that? So I have...I'm watching this one report and it shows Foley's miked. Yeah Did you see that? And then he's not miked. Well you don't want to cut the cord. But that's not wireless It is wireless Oh its got a mic pack But he has a wire coming down. I didn't see the mic pack. Well, it's in his back pocket where it belongs when you mic somebody You can put it in your front pocket There is no wire... There are all kinds of places you can put it Keep watching and I'll continue to play this... Keep playing it... An experienced journalist most recently with Global Post Foley was abducted on Thanksgiving Day 2012 in Northern Syria

1:30:18 Six weeks after he went missing, his family spoke for the first time publicly about his kidnapping on Today. After 40 days without information we felt it was important to make people aware and remind them that Jim's an objective journalist, he is an innocent journalist who is doing this job Foley had previously been held captive for 44 days by pro-Qadhafi forces in Libya in 2011. After his release, he was passionate about the need to cover wars despite the danger as he told The Boston Globe. I believe that front line journalism is important without these photos and videos first hand experience we can't really tell where it might be

1:31:04 ISIS, an offshoot of Al-Qaeda did release four French journalists in April. And other Westerners reportedly after their governments or go betweens paid ransom although they have denied it the video also purportedly shows another American journalist Steven Sotloff whom ISIS says he will kill next if the US continues its airstrikes in Iraq Late Tuesday, Foley's mother Diane issued a family statement saying we thank Jim for all the joy he gave us. He was an extraordinary son brother journalist and person And she wrote we implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages like Jim They are innocents now I want to be careful because there are parents involved here and But just if your son is missing for two years

CHAPTER 29 / 58 Discussion

ISIS Staging Theories and Hollywood Special Effects

The theory that ISIS videos are staged by Western intelligence agencies (MI6 or CIA) is explored. The hosts argue that if the goal was to truly terrify the public, the videos would be more graphic and less "Hollywood-style" with fades and clean cuts. They point out technical discrepancies like "drop shadows" in the final frames and the lack of synchronization in the audio.

isis· special effects· photoshop· psychological operation· iraq

1:31:55 And you see this video, which I think you're now... You must have almost seen the whole thing. Just seeing this video, I would not immediately say, oh well he's dead. I would say this looks like bull crap! Do you see the last shot? I'm watching it now. I had to scan through it to find where the action was because there was a bunch of Obama stuff at the beginning. Okay, you know just need to go to the Islamic State website man. No I'm here! I'm watching it now and I don't want to change what i'm watching. I'm watching the guy is a black guy... The guy in the black is standing next to him

1:32:36 You know, beheading seems to me should be done with a big sword or something. I agree! It'd be more dramatic. A tree trunk yeah... And then a pen knife. It's not really just like the headless body found in Topless Bar scenario that took place in New York at a nightclub that was famous for its headline and the uh... Have you seen The Fade To Black yet? I had no they see Akin who's yak Oh the terrorist know that key the guy the kid Foley okay? Now you see he's doing this from a cue card. He's reading something yes, and it's pretty obvious That's also not typical of it typically They give him a piece of paper And they use words like that ship has sailed who wrote that is that an expression in in Arabic That ship has sailed Obama

1:33:26 Interesting, I think. I think that's interesting whoever wrote this and we have some data on that This being a British accent which you will hear the terrorist all dressed in black This is going on forever my god. Can't you just fast forward to the end and by the way? Just you gotta watch these things man, and by the way well I do To find it's a see a phony Staging and by the way it seems to me that you want a sword And you want to grow the guys hair out yeah so you can grab onto it Yeah So you hold their hair this guys got a

1:34:03 He's got a buzz cut. What is that? So here are the parents very strange interview played over and over again on CNN And their phones are going and they're just not grief-stricken, and they are all in the same day Whereas I just seen this video. I would not be so convinced Oh, just that we're very proud of Jim you know he was a courageous fearless journalist Very compassionate You saw the whole thing you saw the fade to black Yeah, you saw the guys grinding away on the guy's neck. No bloods. Yeah no blood coming out and then the next thing I know that guy is heads on his back. How fake did that look? Didn't it look like a drop shadow underneath his head? It doesn't look right thank you and it doesn't make sense if they would go through well now so here's the question If you're going to use this type of scenario too This is why what stop a second still

1:35:01 This is why I'm so into the idea that this entire ISIS thing is staged by the US government because it would be an American that would say, no we can't do it that way. Because its too gruesome let's do this. I mean cause you could bring in FX guy from Hollywood That what it looks like It looks...I have seen No but I think if you bring in FX guy from Hollywood and actually chop somebody head off I've seen it in movies I've seen heads flying off a body. So my point is, if you're going to go through this length to authorize more force and split Iraq into three parts... what the mission is? If you really want the president to have something to say, if you really want to scare people about the Islamic State

1:35:50 Why don't you actually just cut a guy's head off and do it right? What is this- why is this, this what I don't understand. It reeks of the phony baloney Muslim video like someone did this and they pulled this out of...it's like archive. We got something we need something does anybody have something? Hey hey group team team we need something yeah I got this video we did two years ago Because you don't see the guy speaking, so it could be a voiceover. You don't actually see his mouth moving in sync with anything... I do not like what i'm seeing. Well on this tape you do see his mouth moving in sync with what he says but not after the point where they start to saw away. It's like sawing

CHAPTER 30 / 58 Discussion

Obama's Statement on ISIL and Ideological Inconsistencies

President Obama's speech regarding ISIL is deconstructed, specifically his claim that the group has "no ideology" while simultaneously stating they kill people for their religious practices. The hosts mock the "vacuous" and "empty vision" rhetoric used in the speech, suggesting it is high-level propaganda designed to justify further military intervention in the Middle East.

barack obama· isil· genocide· slavery· ideology

1:36:37 And there's discrepancies in this. And I'm going to play some of this because the whole thing is very bothersome and then, you know, if someone's son is dead fine although I didn't notice the president come out and say we're so sorry about Staff Sergeant Benjamin Prang 30 or Keith Williams 19 California who were killed by an IED last week in Kandahar and no one's talking about that who cares? A journalist! Now we have to stop the press And here's the president describing ISIS, ISIL IS whatever you want to call it and we'll get to that. I do not understand if this was done as a retaliation for the United States bombing Isis air strikes how can you then say that they asked for a ransom?

1:37:29 Those two don't go together. If they want to say stop bombing or we'll cut off this other guy's head, but if you give me $130 million which they don't need because we already have this bullcrap story that they have half a billion... Get your story straight people! Let's be clear about ISIL They have rampaged across cities and villages killing innocent unarmed civilians in cowardly acts of violence They abduct women and children, and subject them to torture and rape and slavery. I didn't know about the slavery! They have murdered Muslims both Sunni and Shia by the thousands they target Christians and religious minorities driving them from their homes

1:38:15 murdering them when they can for no other reason than they practice a different religion. Hold on a second, now the slavery was what we was in that art that we talked about He just said they kill people... Two bucks by the way three bucks you get a slave They he just said They kill people for no other reason but then the... because they like to pray differently? No other reason than they practice a different religion. So he's saying ISIS is this way and kills Sunnis, Shias Christians everybody because they practice a different religion?! This is why they do it?? They declared their ambition to commit genocide against an ancient people so ISIL speaks for no religion Wait a minute!

1:39:01 How can they speak for no religion if they don't like the religion people are practicing? I'm confused. Yeah, very poorly written Their victims are overwhelmingly Muslim and no faith teaches people to massacre innocents No just God All fai- every single faith makes people go massacre You kidding me? Would stand for what they did yesterday and what they do every single day ISIL has no ideology of any value to human beings? They have no ideology, but they kill people because they don't like the way they pray. I'm sorry this is- whoever wrote this should be ashamed of themselves. Your ideology is bankrupt.

1:39:40 They may claim out of expediency that they are at war with the United States or the West, but the fact is they terrorize their neighbors and offer them nothing but an endless slavery to their empty vision. And the collapse... Wow! ...of any definition of civilized behavior." Okay so now we know the definition of ISIS. Wait a minute. Endless slavery? Endless slavery. To their what was it what was it vision there Go back you got to play it back because this is a great phrase. Okay, hold on second Where was I their vacuous vision or something like vacant vision something they may claim out of expediency that Rise their neighbors and offer them nothing but an endless slavery to their empty vision Empty vision endless slavery to their empty vision now that that was that that was there That's not bad. That's not bad in this thing me too their empty vision

CHAPTER 31 / 58 Discussion

The Beatles Jihadi Group and Systematic Beheadings

The media's branding of a group of British jihadis as "The Beatles" is criticized as a calculated PR move. Reports from an Iraqi-American source claiming that ISIS is "systematically beheading children" in Mosul parks are viewed as extreme propaganda meant to incite Western outrage. The hosts predict this narrative will be used to bridge the threat from the Middle East to Europe and the US.

the beatles· jihadi john· the guardian· mosul· propaganda

1:40:36 Wow. Now this is obviously intended to frighten everybody. Oh, this is like World War One's level propaganda! And it's gotten really good. We just heard that they kill men and women, they enslave women, they rape women, they kill people... Now CNN is their job and we know that this is the old ex-NBC guy. This is kind of like their version of Malaysia 370 They're gonna run with this for as far as they can. Brooke Baldwin who I somehow just kinda start to like the way she looks At least, yeah. I don't know something about her that i picked up and i got a look around watch her a lot James Foley reads a message presumably scripted by his captors Denouncing America and Foley's last words quote I wish I had more time to see my family And then James Foley is beheaded the brutal eye no we don't see that it's this executioner appears To have a British accent ha James Foley

1:41:36 I want to ask a rhetorical question. By the way, Brooke Baldwin looked better as a blonde. If you're gonna...they've captured you, they kept your hair on let's say and they're going to behead you. You know this is coming you're gonna have your head whacked off and when we were shot or sawed off the way this guy did it mm-hmm Why would you do any of that? You say just to say screw you guys. You suck I mean yeah, and scream That's what I'd be doing Yeah, I wouldn't be reading a script how funny you mentioned that because I've seen I have looked around at a lot of YouTube videos And I'm always very interested in the shooting guides in the back of the head

1:42:19 which is also apparently IS. And I'm always surprised that these guys are on their knees or sitting down and they put the gun to the head and they pull the trigger, and they go from one to the next...and those guys don't move! As far as i can tell that's real shooting people in the back of the head. They slump over and you know the next guy goes, "...I would be beside myself, I'd be freaking out!" I know we don't understand this culture, John. We have no idea how this works. But this is an American and he's a journalist and obviously he's heroic in his calmness. Stoically heroic. 40 years of age was a freelance photojournalist from New Hampshire

1:43:05 ISIS meanwhile is now considered the world's most dangerous terror group and not just that but also the most repugnant. I want you to listen to this Iraqi American, he lives in California and maintains sources inside Iraq. Inside information. Maintain sources in Iraq. I think i looked this guy up actually just because it was so funny what he's about to say, so ill give you his background in a moment Day by day its getting worse and worse more children are being beheaded mothers are being raped and killed More children are being beheaded The fathers are being hung. But the atrocities committed by ISIS are well known, but still you're startling me with the severity of what you're describing. You say they are beheading children? They are systematically beheading children. Don't we have video of that?! Systematically...

CHAPTER 32 / 58 Discussion

European Jihadis and the Guardian's Role

The Guardian is identified as the primary source for the "Beatles" moniker for the British jihadis. The hosts suggest the newspaper has ties to MI6 and is participating in a government operation. The narrative focuses on the danger of jihadis with Western passports returning to launch attacks in their home countries, a theme the hosts believe is being heavily manufactured.

the guardian· mi6· jihadi john· london· western passports

1:44:00 Well, they have a checklist and time to cut off ahead. It's three past the hour weather on the eights and mothers and fathers The world hasn't seen an evil like this for generations There's actually a park in Mosul that they've actually beheaded children and put their heads on a stick On a stick? And have them in the park They cut the heads off children put them on a stick and then put it in the park. This is crimes against humanity Beheading children yeah, I love that look Beheading children. Beheading children, pay attention. This is ISIS. Paul Crookshank joins me as CNN terrorism analyst and Michael Weiss. There we go. Founders both at Foreign Policy and now Lebanon. Alright bring it on! You've written extensively about you know potential retaliation let me bring up the London accent of that masked

1:44:50 ISIS terrorists, who speaks in the video. We know that quite a few Europeans who fought with ISIS actually have gone back to Europe Could this be a signal for them to start carrying out attacks either you know in Europe or the US? Well of course! It could be there are significant number of Europeans in this group Now this is the continuing narrative That there's European over there They've got Western passports they're going to come back They're gonna start... No one has really said it this way but I hope someone connects the bridge and says they will be beheading children systematically in Europe. And in the US, this is the bridge. I think that would be great! They should say that! So a thousand in this group and that gives them the opportunity to train them and get them to return to Europe or even onto the United States To launch attacks There's also concern because there are hundreds of people who fought with groups like ISIS in Syria and Iraq Who are now back in Europe Yeah! There's concern they could launch attacks in the days to come Brooke In the days to come? Launch?!

1:45:54 Launch attacks not just commit acts of terror, but launch attacks in the days to come bro We talk about potential retaliation and attacks Michael to you You have a little bit more on the video and I'm this attacker himself. That's well The Guardian just stand by for this so you're gonna love this from his story a couple hours ago disclosing that this the man who did the beheading is thought to be called John. He's a British national from London actually and he is part of a three-man ring of captors all of them British The nickname for this group as The Beatles because of their national origin Now, THIS...is good I'm really liking

1:46:32 Three guys from Britain we now call the Beatles who came up with four it's can be the fab for Yeah, well it should before and I like the idea because you know you can also nickname in the beheading Beatles The original Beatles were called the Silver Beetles. Now this has spread, so now we're taking this...the Beatles and again it's whoever came up with this I don't know maybe there was another meeting oh my god no one understands no one's getting it! We have to have a name If we call it the Beatles, maybe we can get Paul McCartney to be outraged about it. I'm just waiting for that now here is the next report where the beat now this is... Actually I am putting that in the red book because I'm convinced now that that's actually going to happen. Makes sense and he could also head up The Benefit concert

1:47:22 Here we go, more Beatles. This is something that came out in the Guardian newspaper here and they say that they've spoken to a number of other people who were held by this group... By the way it's this is the second report that uses The Guardian as the source for the name The Beatles So it's the Guardian who is setting this up. ...known as The Beatles, um and they're called The Beatles because they are a group of young British jihadis that are out there... Makes sense! I think they should have like you know- Makes sense! Hey everybody we're the with the Jihadis known as The Beatles! They should have that jingle all the time. Hey everybody where the jihadi group known as The Beatles? Like they got a little stinger

CHAPTER 33 / 58 Discussion

Michael Hayden on ISIS and Pipeline Geopolitics

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden's media appearances are analyzed, specifically his call to "take the wood to ISIS." The hosts argue that the real strategy is to treat ISIS territory like Waziristan to protect regional pipeline interests. The goal is to block Iranian-Iraqi pipelines through Syria while enabling those from Saudi Arabia and Qatar into Turkey.

michael hayden· cia· waziristan· pipelines· syria

1:48:08 Whenever someone says, Jihadi group known as the Beatles will play The Stinger. You recognize that by the way? Yes from A Long Day's Night. Hard day's night. Described as being one of the main jail keepers of foreign prisoners there and one of the main negotiators Now we have not independently confirmed that but... No of course not There are hundreds of young men and even a few women who have gone to Syria to fight And they're known as The Beatles! Okay This is just crazy, but now we need to bring the douchebags out. This is The Guardian of course, The Guardian's MI6 so we know this a government operation from the get-go. Yeah Okay So let's bring out a couple people who can look official and talk a good name A good game Good name actually talked a good name. Talked a good name. The Beatles Hayden was out

1:49:06 Former CIA chief he was on all the channels with the same message. Oh God, this is he is paying Essentially, Hayden is on the stump as a retired CIA guy forced to go out and spew his propaganda because he could be arrested at any time as a war criminal. And I believe that they've given him a choice to face the music or become a shill Well, we know his choice. His choice is obvious! Not just try to protect or rescue our citizens but we have got to take the wood to ISIS. The wood? We gotta take the wood... We gotta take the wood to ISIS. Brooke liked this. And simply make them less capable of doing the kind of harm they clearly intend to do to us You say take the wood to ISIS

1:50:03 I got some wood for you right here. What does that mean? Like a baseball bat, what is that? Take the wood to ISIS? Exactly, or two by four. Let's try to protect and rescue our citizens but we have gotta take the wood to ISIS and simply make them less capable of doing the kind of harm they clearly intend to do us. You say take the wood to ISIS. What needs to be done and why is ISIS such a threat to America? Can I read this any worse? Possibly. First of all, the president's articulated policy we're gonna prevent genocide and atrocities and we're going to protect Americans like in the consulate in Erbil Yeah in the consulate and oil companies and nice hotels and people

1:50:50 a conference coming up September 1st. Everyone gets flooded all the way down to Baghdad. Will someone please blow this thing up already? Providing close air support to Peshmerga fighters and Iraqi special forces Look, we're all tired of war. We all have fatigue about this but I really do think that's the right course of action. We need to do more than that. We need to degrade ISIS which is more than a terrorist organization it's a government and its an army And they are a British pop band

1:51:44 We just simply have to make them less capable. If you're looking for a metaphor here, all right? And I'm not taking part in any detailed planning that's going on or anything. No. We need to begin to treat ISIS territory in Iraq and Syria the way we have treated Waziristan for the last decade. Now finally he is telling the truth Waziristan, which I will remind listeners no one had heard of and I said on this show look out for Waziristan because I saw the pipeline. You're the first went through the province and through Waziristan And this is all about Pipeline protection. I said be on a lookout and lo and behold No one ever heard of Waziristan it's on the map with droning guys left and right and he is correct

1:52:31 He is correct. We need to treat this particular issue just like Waziristan, we need to stop the pipeline coming from Iran-Iraq through Syria out into the port and we need to enable any pipelines coming up from our friendly Saudi Arabians or the Qataris going up through Homs and Aleppo into Turkey so he is telling the truth! We need to be droning people who are on the wrong side of history killing them and enabling everybody else. I agree, if there were strategy... And of course he's not a part of that This would be what you do ISIS territory in Iraq and Syria the way we have treated Waziristan for the last decade make them worried about their survival rather than planning to threaten yours or mine Exactly exactly If there was one other stooge you could invite during all this to scare people Come on

CHAPTER 34 / 58 Discussion

Mike Rogers and the Super Bowl of Terrorism

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers describes a "competition" between Al Qaeda and ISIL to be the "premier terrorist organization." He claims the threat matrix is wider and deeper than it was before 9/11. The hosts mock this "Super Bowl of terrorism" narrative as a way to keep the public in a state of constant fear.

mike rogers· house intelligence committee· al qaeda· isil· threat matrix

1:53:27 You know, who's always ready? The disc jockey. Mike Rogers! The new disc jockey. Chairman of the... what committee is he on? Security? He is on the House Intelligence Committee. He's the head of it. House Intelligence. And he is still in office and he telling you how it is. He's the guy who coined the term Jihadi Disneyland, boy was he right! By the way of all these guys as far as I'm concerned he is the worst offender oh yeah and the difference here is that before 9-11 there was single level threat streams coming into United States so pretty single level threat streams write it down serious obviously they got in on and conducted the attacks on 9-11 now you have multiple organizations all

1:54:19 Al Qaeda minded trying to accomplish the same thing. Multiple all Al Qaeda minded? Well, could I ask you a question just kind of theoretical here or something hypothetical? With a single level threat stream they could bring down the Twin Towers. Now that's been what, 12 years ago? 13 years ago? But since then they've had multiple level threat streams and they've accomplished nothing? It is even worse than that John! It is even worse than your hypothetical question. Thousands of individuals now signing up with ISIL to fight their jihad in Syria and Iraq have Western passports, that's what so dangerous about this

1:55:04 We also know that they want to conduct an attack, but so does Al Qaeda. And so now you have two competing terrorist organizations... It's a contest! Wow! It's the Super Bowl of terrorism Both of them want to get their credentials To the point where they can say we are the premier terrorist organization Come see us We are the premier terrorist organization. They should have commercials when you want the job done right, you come to the premiere terrorist organization Both want to conduct attacks in the West for that reason and guess what? That means we lose at the end if either one of those organizations is successful we lose And here's something interesting Bob. We've seen some very interesting relationships between AQ

1:55:46 uh... in the arabian peninsula a q ap yeah i understand uh... and al-qaeda on a very aggressive and the attorney general said that it was uh... one of the worst One of the things keeps him up at night and I would concur with them. That is an attack that many believe is going operational, and that's what we should be worried about. Do you think that were in greater danger? What did he say? It doesn't matter! Listen to the final question it doesn't matter what he says he's full shit. Do you think that we're in greater danger now than perhaps we were before 9-11? I do again only because the threat matrix is so wide and its so deep We just didn't have that before 9 11

1:56:25 The threat matrix is so deep we are in more danger than before 9-11. You heard it from the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee... House. ...House Intelligence Committee himself! Now, what if we have this competition for someone to be one of these groups to be the premier terrorist organization? We're number one What do you need to have set in stone A double elimination tournament. You need the branding, the branding man! The branding... Here's Marie Harf Bandcamp Girl spokeshole for the State Department and she just sums it up she's getting pissed off about it She can't even figure out Would you say that US and Syria are on the same page against a common enemy? No I would not And large part thats because its the Assad regime own actions

CHAPTER 35 / 58 Discussion

Rebranding ISIS and the TASSI Proposal

State Department spokesperson Marie Harf's confusion over whether to call the group ISIS, ISIL, or IS is highlighted. An imam's suggestion to rebrand the group as "TASSI" (Terrorist Assassins of Syria and Iraq) is discussed as a way to fight the group's "branding." The hosts joke about the need for an RFP for the group's official name.

marie harf· isis· isil· tassi· branding

1:57:19 Helps lead to the rise of ISIS or ISIL or IS or whatever we're gonna call it this week Sponsorship underwriting advertising call it. Whatever you want Can these people not get it together? This morning I saw an imam who's in America and he was on one of the news shows. And he is smart, this guy! We need to fight the brain... I know you said something similar to me off camera that ISIS shouldn't be called ISIS, correct? Absolutely absolutely we have to fight them on four major fronts. We have to fight them ideologically Ideologically okay write that down John

1:57:56 Bring the wood to them ideologically. We have to fight them in terms of their branding, but- Their branding? Ah! we have to fight their branding Yeah they gotta get rid that I think they should get five Oakland Raiders immediately should sue them for use of their there you said their flag That would be good He has an idea, this imam by the way. To fight them militarily and to fight them economically as if Tukhara pointed out we should not even call them Islamic State We should call them terrorist assassins of Syria and Iraq Which would be Tassi! He's suggesting yet another... a fourth brand ISIS, ISIL, IS and now Tassi

1:58:38 Which, what did he say? It was the terrorist... Assassins. The terrorist assassins of Syria and Iraq. The terrorist assassins of Syria and Iraq which I think is a good try it's well we need some we should have some of our producers come up with some monikers That might be better. You know, that's we should rebrand it that way and we should all universally agree because that is... Is there an RFP for this rebranding? That we haven't seen yet as I come through can we pitch the business important in terms of shaping the perception of both non-muslims and Muslims about this group And then to well of course we always have someone

CHAPTER 36 / 58 Discussion

Border Security and the Cartel-ISIS Connection

Texas Representative Ted Poe suggests a potential "synergy" between Mexican drug cartels and ISIS, citing their shared use of beheadings. The hosts perform a satirical skit of a phone call between the two groups. Meanwhile, Marie Harf admits she has not watched the Foley beheading video, which the hosts find telling of the State Department's involvement in the narrative.

ted poe· mexican cartels· isis· border security· marie harf

1:59:24 Capitalizing on this Ted Poe Republican from Texas dickhead. For a long time you and I have been talking about border security being national security, and yet we look to Mexico and the drug cartels beheading their opponents Is there synergy? Is there interaction, is there a connection between the Mexican cartels and groups like ISIS?" I think they have a letter of intent or maybe a memorandum understanding. It's time for some acquisitions! Yes merges and acquisitions please! They're talking to each other... Hey hello Jose it's Mohammed here

2:00:09 What are you using these days? Oh, let's see if we can now. Are you gonna be Muhammad or Jose what do you want to be? I'll be Hosea Hello, kettle? No. I'm not cat-Hosea Okay. Hello! Hello? Hello, Jose Is Mohammed here? Yes, see, see, see. It's Hosea. Hello, hello I'm Hosea. We're working on it. Who is this? This is Mohammed from Tassi. Which Mohammed? Mohammed from Tassi. Tassi terrorists assassins. Oh yes! Syria Iraq Tassi. We've been wanting to talk to you. You have problem with branding and positioning. Yeah problem with my accent me too

2:00:53 What? Say, you're breaking up. Mohammed here Are you on the satellite phone? Mohammed here Yes, Mohammed yes Jose Jose what should we do? Should be head more people or how to we behave small knife big knife I would say that you should try a pencil Or a small hacksaw Use the hacksaw because it's cheap This is going nowhere I will finalize... They're gonna do a deal. Yeah, this is everyone is just jump- Everyone's jumping on board saying whatever they want to say as long as it sounds scary and of course- As long as you're going attack us any minute Any second now launching an attack within days And the best part is our band camp girl Marie Harf Well, I'll let you listen to it

2:01:51 The video was the secretary and the president. They were briefed on the video, did they watch the video? I don't know the answer to that. I'm happy to check. I have not watched the video. She has not watched the video and doesn't intend too. Okay... Well she's already been you know she already saw this script although i don't think there's any deal that didn't happen down i think it's a state department activity this is definitely uh This is intelligence agencies. It's got to be MI6 and CIA." Well, they need help and they're doing a crappy job... They're doing a great job! They are only doing a crappy job for you me and our listeners and that's a small number of people relatively speaking big for a podcast I agree with that i'm just disappointed You're so right the special effects guys could do such a great job And this is what we get?

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Final Analysis of the Foley Video Authenticity

The final analysis of the James Foley video concludes that it is an inauthentic, low-budget Photoshop job that has nonetheless been effective in swaying public opinion. The hosts express frustration that the public is so used to "fake stuff" that they no longer question obvious discrepancies. They call for service members to return home rather than fight based on manufactured outrage.

james foley· photoshop· media authenticity· awol· propaganda

2:02:41 It's all you need. They're low budget, have you taken a look at the kind of money they'd rather spend it on hookers and blow? There you go which is not a good combination actually doesn't work well together I'm reliably informed Well that's because you get robbed probably All right enough of this Well we need some kind of final analysis because it's going to continue This is not going to stop I am sorry to have to say that I really don't believe this video is authentic. It is crazy that it fades to black, there's no blood, there's drop shadow, there's no analysis we're not showing it. Oh! It's so horrible of course as a journalist... Why would that be except unless somebody was directing in this and said now this is too much? Too much. It's like the other one they had to cut it off because

2:03:33 Produced because you don't need the guy was I could see the meetings. He said we don't need to go that far We don't need to bring in Hollywood and actually chop the guy's head off just say it happened Yeah, so would you say it? It was a Hollywood guy You can make it look like he chopped his head off is not that hard you make him old of the guys had put it on a gonna You know what John its Photoshop. It's just inserted with a drop shadow yes So it's insulting It really is, and I don't know exactly how it works with these parents. This is bothersome that you can see through it...it's effective!

2:04:12 I'll take the side of the government on this. This works, it works yeah sure it's a cheap photoshop job that any amateur could spot a mile away and it makes no sense that was shot like this but it worked if you listen to the radio talk radio shows are all talking about this so this journalist had his head chopped off its working fine I don't know what your complaint is It works! Well have a couple complaints and one is...it is okay forget it work great If the president would at least say a few words every week about servicemen and women who die in the course of action. It's not, it's an insult! People should be going AWOL they should be revolting come back home we need you to...we need your protection against the police hello army come back home we need your help here it is really it is it's flabbergasting its insulting and you're right it works it absolutely works we are so used to fake

CHAPTER 38 / 58 Discussion

Katt Williams on the Boston Marathon Bombing

Comedian Katt Williams' stand-up routine is used to deconstruct the official narrative of the Boston Marathon bombing. Williams points out the contradictions in the police report regarding the shootout in the boat, noting that the suspect was unarmed despite the massive amount of gunfire directed at him. The hosts praise Williams for his "No Agenda" style analysis of media lies.

katt williams· boston marathon· dzhokhar tsarnaev· police narrative· stand-up comedy

2:05:14 Fake stuff that it's okay. Yeah now I want to play a very which is related to this I want to play and this is a guy people can turn off or go forward This is a profane clip It's not as bad as the guys normal act, which is pretty bad But this is a black comet comic named cat Williams Now, I'm gonna...if he's not a No Agenda listener, he is a no agenda analyst. And then I have two clips from him. The first one is we'll play this and you can tell me if you wanna play the second one. But this is Cat Williams on the Boston Marathon. This is his stand-up bit. I believe it's on HBO or it's on Showtime, one of the two pay per view things and he deconstructs

2:06:00 part of the Boston Marathon bombing and discusses the police. And this is a profane black comic. The police used to be served and protect, used to mean you are presumed innocent until you are proven guilty. Police don't give shit! They done figured out they can kill your ass today and come up with a story for the news tomorrow. They done figured that shit out, and they done got so good they can show us the truth And we could see the truth with our own eyes! And then they could lie to us at the same time and confuse us about the truth We just saw With our own eyes okay

2:06:42 The first time we all saw it was at the Boston Marathon bombing. Everybody was looking for the fake-ass, bullshit ass terrorist He had a four day head start he could have been anywhere but we knew he was in the boat because they told us he was in the boat from a helicopter that's him in the boats right there that's him in the boat drew picture around and that's him laying down at the bottom of the boat then they said The police are here. We gonna back up, let the police go in and begin negotiations." And all we heard was brrrat! Brrrra-tatat! Brrrra-tatata! Brrrra-tatat! Then they cut to commercial. By the time they came back that motherfucker had 20 holes in his chest a tunnel in his throat... The next day they say he was in a gunfight

2:07:42 But he didn't have a gun. Very good, very good I hadn't heard of this guy like him Yeah he does this and uh... Where was this done? Do you know what the venue was? I don't know what the venue was it's hard to say i'd have to re-look it up but he does the same thing with the Dorner guy Well I look forward to working with him when your dead Ebony and ivory the best podcast in the universe Feel free to use him if I croak first yeah, well we can do he probably already makes more money than we do

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Katt Williams on the Christopher Dorner Manhunt

Katt Williams' bit on the Christopher Dorner manhunt highlights the LAPD's aggressive tactics, including shooting at innocent civilians in a similar truck. Williams mocks the "negotiation" process that ended with the cabin being burned down, questioning the official suicide narrative. The hosts use the clip to illustrate that many people can see through scripted police situations.

katt williams· christopher dorner· lapd· cabin fire· manhunt

2:08:22 Anyway, so that was just an example. What's the second one? The second one is another one very similar and it's about the guy...and this is a little more profane because he's going off on this in a different way but this is about the guy that was caught in the cabin and they burnt to place down and the rest you know that guy there cop the black cop that would there after in LA Oh, the yeah who's owner they find whose wallet. They found twice right and whose guns were somehow or even singed ah Yes that one second time we thought Second I was always in LA when they was looking for the ex-black cop Christopher donor That was some scary shit They wanted that nigga back Yeah

2:09:07 Let me just tell you I was in LA at the time and let me just say, You do not want to be a n***a when they are looking for n****s. That was some scary shit! I didn't realize how much of my time i spent being black till I had to try to drive white for two days. That motherfucker wanted that ni**a bad They shot up two hispanic women in a pickup truck delivering newspapers in the morning look for a nigga wait a minute that is too early and too late for niggas we not gonna be nowhere at 430 in the morning not even if we supposed to be but we knew he was in the cabin because they told us he was in the cab, he's in the cabin. The police have him completely surrounded there's nowhere for him to go we are going back up

2:10:03 Let the police go in and begin negotiations. And all we saw was, get that motherfucker! Then they said it looks like he committed suicide. That's barbecued this nigga ain't!" Not very good Well that just points out that not everyone's... There are a lot of people out there who can see the reality of the situation and its not to be taken lightly

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Listener Donations and Sack of Sevens

A series of listener donations are acknowledged, including a "Sack of Sevens" ($77.77) from Robert Goschko in anticipation of the show's seventh anniversary in October. Other donors from Brussels, New Mexico, and Colorado are thanked, with several requesting "job karma" or "exam karma." The hosts also mention the "666" donation tier and its lack of popularity.

ebola· sack of sevens· anniversary· brussels· job karma

2:10:41 But of course after a show like that everyone was, ah that was great let's go back and forget about it. Let's go back and watch the news! Exactly. We have a lot of people to thank. Well, actually not that many. But we have some people to thank for show 645 and go to 646 which is kind of interesting six four six six four six including anonymous in Brussels Belgium Thanks for the entertaining analysis could use some karma for good health if there is any left Will put give you some karma at the end for good health $169 I don't even see anonymous from Brussels Belgium where are you looking? Aaron

2:11:30 I'm sorry. I see it now, I am up to speed and here with you. Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho New Mexico $100 Great Ebola analysis this is my dude named Ben donation another dude we have a lot of dudes named Ben. They need a community somewhere William Carter, Broomfield Colorado. Another $100 donation? We have a birthday call out there. Anonymous, another anonymous... One second I received an anonymous donation here and people do not do this if you're gonna send checks send it to the PO box it confuses everything yeah the anonymous says it's a Desi Knight donation hundred dollars um is anything else here

2:12:20 What's up with your prepper SDR? Okay. People, please don't do this keep it all going to one place is much better. Goes right into the bank which is near the post office box Rebecca McGinley in San Diego California 9999 and she wants a 9999 or call out I wasn't quite ready for that but here you go! Anonymous and Grants Pass Oregon 80-03 We got a sack of sevens. I requested sacks of sevens, but we got one from Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta which is 7777 is our seventh anniversary donation number. We've morphed the sack of sevens to our anniversary. When is it? In October! It's coming up shortly. Oh really?! As soon as you get back from Amsterdam, we'll be getting close. It seems like we just celebrated six

2:13:18 A year ago. Wow, okay. Gustavo Patei I guess and I'm not sure in Jamaica New York 70. I have a note this is a check yeah this is a check that came in nice and where's his note my father and I could use job karma it could also use some okay we'll put some exam karma keep up the great work will give you some at the end job karma for Gustavo Andrew Huber in Angola, New York 6969. Sir Rick in Arlington Washington 6933 and now I'm remembering to call him Sir Rick this is our buddy wrestler Ghana Manakova in Karlsruhe

2:14:11 Deutschland, we got a happy birthday coming out with a whip...add the whippet to the Constitution thing to the little deals you do at the end there. Andrew Lemesny in Colorado Springs, Colorado 6660. Scott Waldherr in Rhinelander Wisconsin 6660. Daniel Ehrlich in Bowlesburg, Pennsylvania. A lot of weird little towns today 6660. Karma for me and all the other slaves is all I ask for coming up. Adrian Turner Hove East Sussex UK. Kathleen Stokes in Woburn Massachusetts

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Dog Days of Summer and Speeding Ticket Mercy

The "Dog Days of Summer" are blamed for a slight dip in donations, though several $50 "double nickel" donors are recognized. A story from Eliza Rivera describes how a friend's advice to "beg for mercy" in court resulted in a reduced speeding ticket fine, with the savings being donated to the show. The hosts encourage other listeners to find similar ways to support the value-for-value model.

dog days· st. louis· speeding ticket· court· value-for-value

2:14:54 She says that thanks for keeping my commute to Boston sane. Keep up the great work, also for feedback the puppies are great but I do enjoy some kittens with my curried Sharptons." More kittens? Well it's dog days as mentioned in their newsletter and dog days calls for dogs! Is this officially the Dog Days of Summer is that what it is now? Yeah August, that's why our donations are down we only have two producers That's why donations are down and terror is up Donations down terrors up Veenstra in St. Louis, Missouri. I would say boots on the ground information. Feinstra is what i'd say double nickels on the dime Bob Wassenaar in Utrecht. Double niggles on a dime Dominic Ruggiero and Laval Quebec double nickels on a diamond the rest of these are $50 he says after my wife Sonia Matteo donated to the show for our anniversary and never having donate myself I felt like quite the douche

2:15:52 Here's hoping the donation corrects that. Thank you." So, they should dedouche him at least and... You've been de-douched! And thank you for your wife bringing you into the fold. Somebody sent in something and they had a whole list of people they wanted douched. I think it came in by email so whoever that was we'll do some douching because there are a bunch of friends on Sunday. I have to go dig up that note. Oh write it down Everything won't help. I know And so here's the high $50 donors David Oliver in San Francisco, California Thanks for keeping me properly informed He says Dublin California Eric Viet Frank Easley Leland and Ted in Allen, Texas Todd Todd I said Ted mm-hmm yeah, I know I said Ted it's Todd can you get that straight yep Bruce was Bruce Bruce Bruce

2:16:50 Schwalm. Schwoam. Swolm. Parts Unknown 50. Daniel Howes in Portland, Maine. Roger Gregsby in Santa Cruz California Martin Van Galen Lost Martijn van Galen Lost Martijn van Halen Lost Beneden Leeuwen You sound like you really are on the spectrum my friend Netherlands. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario Canada Michael Gates in Colorado Springs no relation Eliza Rivera and Florence South Carolina and finally Sir Mark Tanner in Uvita California I do have a note from from Eliza which is a handwritten note

2:17:42 ITM, John and Adam. I recently got a speeding ticket that would have been four points and $130 for this point thing. A friend advised me to show up in court bring something blah blah blah. I showed up declined my...I can't read the word he's written is so long long and it's hard to read politely asked for a reduction it red It gave me an $80 fine, so he's donating the rest of the money to us. So they went to court and begged for mercy. And that seemed to have paid off in terms of lowering his $130 deal. I hope the judge is not listening. No, we hope the judge IS listening!

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Knighting Ceremony for Sir Rich Leiter and Sir Sports Junk

Rich Leiter, a law library professor from Lincoln, Nebraska, and "Sports Junk" are knighted after contributing over $1,000 to the show. Sir Rich Leiter is named "Lord of the Law Library." The ceremony includes the traditional "de-douching" of several of Leiter's friends and a shout-out to his wife, Wendy.

rich leiter· sports junk· knighting· law library· lincoln nebraska

2:18:27 It's a way the judge can support the show. Good point, I'm sorry to take it back. Anyway this is for show 645 want to thank all these folks and especially for helping us out at any amount helps by the way and we do have a show 646 coming up when we like some support to get rid of these dog days maybe we could up it a little bit so far we've been saved by two instant nights otherwise would be you have pretty poor showing Are you going to do another contest or are you gonna keep it as is? Well, I don't know of a con... No. no, no. I'm not going to the contest anymore that was good once. A lot of these things are just like the 666 thing. I got one... You know what? Screw the contest people listen we're doing work here it appears were delivering some value your in your car for hours on end every single day if you're listening and getting through it and were helping putting smile on your face

2:19:25 Certainly, I think that's worth something. That's all we ask for value for value that is our model That's how we keep it going and cheaper than a movie And better and better special effects Absolutely yeah okay help us out please jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! And two quick ones today. William Carter says happy birthday to Cotton who turns 28, oh turned 28 yesterday. Ganna Monacova says happy birthday to her lovely husband Philip Mizeldin I hope we got the pronunciation right but we mean it up in any case Happy Birthday from your buddies here at The Best Podcast In The Universe

2:20:25 Sorry two nightings today. Yeah, yes yay indeed a note here from Rich lighter who will be knighted in a moment Let me just grab this here I guess this just goes to show that persistence paid off after five and a half years I am finally a knight I've added it all up and made the threshold, counting below. I'd like to be known as Richard Leiter Lord of Law Libraries in Lincoln Nebraska." Now this is Rich who stopped by Austin and he also sent me this lovely book about the disasters of Mississippi. He's a professor who said that I was pretty spot on 80% of the time. That I am in effect a good lawyer

2:21:10 I'd like to give a shout out to Keith, Dave, Everett and Sam of Lincoln & Faithful. This is what i was talking about this the note okay there's the douche but you gotta do them separately each one's a douche bag he said right in there to call him a douche bag i don't see that with a douchebag He says he calls them out Well, read the whole thing. He says I'd like to give a shout out to Keith Dave Everett and Sam of Lincoln and faithful FAS members And sometimes NA listeners. Oh okay you're right but i'm duty bound To call them out as douchebags yes okay here we go uh so keith And then we have Dave. And then we have Everett. And we have Sam. And then the faithful FAS members, whoever you are. They're all douchebags. Wow that's a lot! That is record-breaking douchebaggery. That's a huge bag of douche.

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Elizabeth Warren and the Hillary Clinton Question

A clip of Elizabeth Warren dodging a question about whether Hillary Clinton is the best choice for 2016 is analyzed. Warren is seen being "rescued" by an aide to avoid answering. The hosts suggest that Warren is being positioned as the next president and that there is a genuine fear of crossing the Clinton political machine.

elizabeth warren· hillary clinton· 2016 election· political dodging· house of cards

2:22:05 Step up the plate and vote for sanity. I also have to acknowledge Wendy, my best friend and tolerantly patient wife of 35 years and no Agenda fan without whom this would not have been possible." He's accepting an Oscar apparently. Yeah that is what it sounds like! I like it. For my refreshment at the table please supply Endra Dour and Monte Cristos number four I prefer the two myself. Well, but you know you don't get to make that choice now do ya? And i dont smoke any cigars so... Me neither It's an honor take my seat at the brown table and welcome all knights and producers to call on me for any legal research needs respectfully he says in the morning! In The Morning! With that we grab our blades these are not a pussy like Isis Blades

2:22:49 This is a real sword. Exactly so Rich Lighter step on up along with Sports Junk the both of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe, the amount of $1,000 or more and we are proud to welcome you to The Roundtable of the Knights and the Danes I hereby pronounce thee Sir Rich Lighter Lord of the Law Library and Sir Sports Junk the knight who says Knee For you gentlemen, Hookers and Blow, Ramp Boys and Chardonnay, Ass Cream with Bear Fillings, Endra Dour and Monte Cristo No. 4, Girlfriend Experience a Good Bourbon, Porn Stars and Pop, Puppets and Pork, Mushroom & Maker's Mark, Whiskey and Wet Wipes, Bong Hits and Bourbon or if you prefer... Mutton in Mead

2:23:29 Ah, that night ring will look good on you. Rich, that'll look very good Go to noagenomination.com slash rings and Eric the shill will hook you up That's what he does Nice Thank You I really appreciate it Really really appreciate it thank you Okay let us see Quick I have an aside clip Yeah, absolutely. This is Elizabeth Warren a little short clip where she says something about Hillary but she doesn't say anything that just this is I'm just gonna make sure the stays in the loop that we keep track of this woman because she will be the next president United States. Do you believe if Hillary Clinton is still the best choice coming up for your party? Coming up for 2016? Hillary is terrific! But it's still the best choice though? I'm sorry?

2:24:12 Is she still the best choice? You're being rescued. The rescuer is here It's time to go in We just have a question about As you see one of her supporters asked her to come inside and begin the event She dodged that question because I didn't hear yes or no I thought it was funny cause i boosted that clip And then actually got to hear the person whispering going, we've gotta go inside! You have to go right away this isn't good We have to go. Please, no more questions." Because there's always still the possibility and the fear that Hillary will get in even though this seems less and less likely as time goes by And then she'll screw over Elizabeth Warren for daring to challenge her If she doesn't kill her Well that could happen too Yeah I'd say-I'd be very careful if you cross Hillary Uh oh Now entering second half of show Yeah Second half of show! Uh Oh

CHAPTER 44 / 58 Discussion

Paul Hellyer on UFOs and Alien Species

Former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer claims on RT that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years. He asserts that aliens became particularly concerned after the invention of the atomic bomb, fearing humans might disrupt the "unity of the cosmos." The hosts discuss the different types of aliens mentioned, including grays, tall blondes, and humanoids.

paul hellyer· canada· ufo· grays· atomic bomb

2:25:11 I've been following this guy Paul Hellyer. Paul Hellyer is the former Minister of Defense for the Candanavians, let me pull up his wiki page h-e-l-l y-e-r. H-E-L-L Y-E-R Yeah, and i've been following this but finally got a clip that's short enough into the point enough Longest serving current member of the privy council who the pretty handsome We need a privy council for our group. Oh there's a guy for our intelligence network anyway here he is on RT in a recent interview

2:25:52 Why do you say that UFOs are as real as the airplanes flying over our heads? Because I know that they are. This is my kind of guy! I know that they're okay. And he really confirms everything I've always believed in. As a matter fact, we have been visiting our planet for thousands of years During the Cold War, 1961 there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia to across Europe. And the Supreme Allied Commander was very concerned and about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole So they decided to do an investigation They investigated for three years and they decided that

2:26:44 with absolute certainty that four species, four different species at least had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. That would be the grays and the tall blondes and I'm not sure... Didn't we have a clip of the guy who listed like six? Well he's... Why don't you look up aliens and see if there's that clip that defines the different species? There's the grays, and there are some green ones. And then there were some tall ones...and then something else. I think it was two others. Oh yes! It was a clip that YOU had. You're right John. Yes, I had the clip. A lot of people have actually worked at Area 51. They told me they worked with beings who were from another planet

2:27:36 And they said there's more than one kind. A large and a small nose grey, a reptile an orange, a blue...and the humanoids! Wow I don't think that there is yet a complete story on what... Well that's not...that's bogus They're orange and blue. Sounds right to me! So that's, we have a long... Oh this guy is the real deal here. ...history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades since... Listen up, listen up this is very important information We invented the atomic bomb And they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again Because the whole cosmos as a unity

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Philip Corso and the War with Aliens

The discussion shifts to Philip Corso's book "The Day After Roswell," which suggests that the US and Russia have been in a secret war with aliens. This is contrasted with Paul Hellyer's more peaceful view. Hellyer's involvement in creating a UFO landing pad in St. Paul, Alberta, as a symbol of intergalactic peace is also noted.

philip corso· the day after roswell· st. paul alberta· ufo landing pad· space wars

2:28:19 and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos. They're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well." So the information that I have always had is that none of these nuclear weapons work at all they are incapacitated by the four species of aliens who are protecting us and protecting the entire planetary universe And since Nagasaki and Hiroshima, nothing has gone off. Yeah well there's no proof of that and there is plenty of evidence to the contrary A and B if you read the Corso book which apparently this hellier character read and he was less inclined to believe in any of this until he read Philip Corso's book which I would recommend it because very... What is the name? The Day After Roswell very good book very entertaining

2:29:14 And Corso says that we've been, and you said this on occasion. So your own opinions about this bull crap are contradictory because you've said on occasion the same thing Corso says in his book that we are in a war with the aliens... I never said this! This is not true. Space Wars, you've talked about... Space Wars in space wars now with aliens it's the Chinese and we're shooting each other satellites do you actually come to this show or do you send someone else who makes up Israeli moon bases? I have never said we're fighting the alien. I've never said that! Well I'm telling you what Corso says. Okay. Corso says were fighting the aliens

2:29:55 us and the russians in most of the activity behind a believe any of that i don't know if you with putting weaponry out in space so we can Apparently these aliens have difficulty with certain magnetic stuff, that's why they keep crashing. Otherwise they'd have taken over by now and it turns out I think Corso is correct! This guy is totally wrong where the aliens aren't our friends? Why would they be?! It's dumb to think that...it's like oh the white man coming to help Indian this is not going to be the way it works isn't it? Corso's argument as I think is much better. This character, this Hellier guy actually created a landing pad in St.

2:30:32 Paul, Alberta the town where all the money is and it had it built as a Canadian centennial celebration I'm reading from the Wikipedia as a symbol of keeping space free from human warfare. The sign beside the pad there's a pad there. The area under the world's first UFO landing pad was designed internationally by in for the town of St. Paul's a symbol of our faith that mankind will maintain the outer universe free from national wars and strife The future travel in space will be safe for all intergalactic beings, all visitors from Earth or otherwise are welcome to take over Alberta apparently. They're welcome to this territory and they're welcomed into the town of St Paul so I'd be moving out there as fast as I could." That's the way I see it! I like it better when I just did the alien stuff... Your version is no good. My version is more believable

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Podcasting Patent Settlement and The Vessel Smart Cup

The settlement of the podcasting patent lawsuit between Personal Audio and Adam Carolla is discussed, with the hosts calling it "chicken shit" because it was settled without prejudice. In tech news, a $200 smart cup called "The Vessel" is belittled for its claim to analyze drinks and track hydration via the cloud, which the hosts view as a useless "Internet of Things" gimmick.

adam carolla· podcasting patent· eff· the vessel· internet of things

2:31:23 Okay, just don't just don't accuse me. Just don't accuse me of things I haven't said I never said where well I thought you did I would mistake it and I guess when I was right because sometimes when I roll my eyes Yeah It actually makes me forget things Okay, that's a known characteristic of eye rolling Tech news Tech news is there a phone out as their phone is the tech news thing. Oh, do we have a tech news theme don't we supposed to play it? Yeah I'm getting into it all I said you want the long version or the of course not yeah I like The only good phones a landline and the phone should be made out of Bakelite

2:32:13 Although there's no phone out. There's no phone this week in tech news I would like to say something about a case we've been following for quite awhile is just tech news This is Tech News it regarding podcasting oh yeah, they had a big podcasting confab and Texas Yeah But I was going to talk about the podcast movement. I believe as the settlement of the lawsuit between the podcasting patent holder and Adam Carolla. Oh! And they have now settled... That's interesting Without prejudice, which means They can sue each other? They can sue each other. They are now in a quiet period for I think 30 days and somehow this is being seen as some kind of victory. I call chicken shit What is this big big words? We're gonna fight them to the end and now you settle

2:33:09 Without prejudice, so nothing has been won at all? A lot of money. Well he does have a trial in September his business partners are suing him about not paying their fair share maybe he needed some some money for that lawsuit Maybe they'll use it for that But I'm dumbfounded At how easy this guy gets off with this but fine He was, he was yeah. Some pretty good articles written about this. I didn't read any. It's okay and we continue to follow the Electronic Frontier Foundation who are following the correct path in trying to invalidate

2:33:49 the podcasting patent. I have a column running yesterday, it's still on PC Magazine Tech News belittling a new product called The Vessel you can go to v-e-s-s-y-l This is the cup that knows what your drinking? Yeah the 13 ounce cup that knows what your drinking and costs $200 bucks made out of plastic To be part of the internet of things The Internet of Things. All right, tell us about this column? Luckily you belittle it that's good I looked at the commercial but there was nothing to pull from it there's no voiceover No no its not enough talking Is this real is a real cup well if it is it's about $50,000 worth of chemical testing here in the cup which I find hard to believe to be honest about it I think it can maybe test a couple things like sugar content

2:34:42 But they claim you can test, you can put in Coca-Cola and it'll say Coca-Cola. You put in Pepsi says Pepsi. And what's the point? They don't quite say that because now we can document all of everything you drink all day because you're supposed to carry this stupid cup around with you like an idiot so you carry the cup until you go to Starbucks, you dump your coffee in there, you drink from there. Then it goes through the cloud, it analyzes on everything you've been drinking all day and gives you advice on hydration calorie count and things like that Wow. Something everyone needs! This is not going to fly long term, I don't think human beings are really that interested in this. This isn't gonna fly short term! But the same thing with these wearables crap... no one cares. No one-I don't think anyone really wants this. Well the hypochondriacs care. I don't think there's that many hypochondriacs in the world

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Silicon Valley Scams and the Woodside Party

A story from ten years ago describes a high-end party in Woodside attended by venture capitalists like John Doerr. At the event, a guest told one of the hosts that "everything in Silicon Valley is a scam" and a "big sales club." The anecdote serves to illustrate the hosts' long-standing skepticism of the tech industry's hype and self-importance.

silicon valley· woodside· john doerr· venture capital· larry lessig

2:35:33 There's enough of them maybe to support one or two of these devices, but I will say that in New York City. I did watch your most recent appearance on a show about phones this week and cellphones and I think you were very clear and correct in saying And I'd like you to tell little more the story if you don't mind because I remember you had to leave to go To this party That Silicon Valley everything is a scam I didn't leave the show prematurely. No, no you couldn't talk later on the show. You're like, I gotta go there's some party thing Oh right right This was this was the party that you went where some guy said everything is a scam

2:36:12 This is a story. I told we didn't really go into a party It was that was Steve Cook's place, and it was a great place who is Steve cook or to Tim cooker? Or not Tim cook but yeah the Tom Collins The cook that runs that started into it for some reason I can't remember his first name Anyway so cook had a party And I was in there at this huge mansion when you know drinking Chardonnay like a like a twerp You're going fast Who else was there? Oh, John Doerr was there. Okay, John Doerr famous venture capitalist yeah I most of the people from Kleiner or the people from like a bunch of footballers were their like what's this guy used to be the safety for Ronnie Lott There is lot of celebrities Really? Were they any Hollywood celebrities No it was just Silicon Valley Northern California celebrities

2:37:06 Anyway, I was in one of the anti-rooms. What's an anti room? You have a room in the back! I'm trying to get that you're not doing a good job on the story. I'm trying to help him coaxing you, I'm interested don't get all frustrated. But there's certain terms i don't think have to explain...I was in a room and it was and it was okay because they had a pile of nuts were there any drugs at this party? No! There were no drugs at this party except for wine. Were there any good-looking women at this party? Silicon Valley women..there wasn't any Hollywood level quality high end

2:37:42 Babes hookers no It was it was just one of these you've been to these parties. No sorry I have not huh, but I don't get invited I've never been invited to these I don't get invited that many myself How did you get on this list? Because I had given a speech that involved the company. It was with Larry Lessig and I, it was a debates thing where we both talked two sides of one issue... Did you say Adam says hi to Larry? This is years ago before we started working together so it wasn't gonna happen that way unless I was for that. I have a lot of insight and foresight but not that good

2:38:27 And so people are hanging around. The party came out of the event and so there was a new party, and I was in the back room talking to some guys... Were people wearing dockers? Yes. And lots of khaki? Wow, okay. A lot of blue shirts and blue shirts with suspenders no suspenders Okay this house was it a like a Victorian or modern? Modern a huge monstrous place mm-hmm and It had it was in Woodside so it had a backhouse that's been five or six acres And in the backyard there were a bunch of alpacas

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Billionaire Prepper Wives and Alpaca Spinning

The Woodside party story continues with a description of billionaires' wives who keep alpacas in their backyards to shear and spin the wool. The hosts characterize this as a form of "billionaire prepper" behavior. The guest at the party used this as an example of how the elite in Silicon Valley are disconnected from reality while selling "bull crap" to the public.

alpaca· woodside· billionaire wives· preppers· spinning wool

2:39:07 These are like llamas? Yes, only they're the high-end llamas. They weren't the vicunas but they were the alpaca llamas It's the Tesla of llamas Yeah well actually I would say the vicuna Okay, the vicuna which is a small...they're different sizes The llama-llama is a big giant thing Are these good pets? Do they make good pets? They're very friendly And what they do when they have this there was this Scott cook that's his name anyway there I don't know why couldn't remember that he's got a bunch of llamas and they have a In the backyard they have a big stable for the llamas in this big house Which is modern place it had one of those toilets that you watch washes your ass as a matter of fact What kind of cars were outside Tesla's? And no, no, this is pre-tesla. This was about 10 years ago Oh, I thought you were talking about this party now. I'm sorry. I'm confused Okay, so the llamas were ten years ago Yes

2:40:05 And it was a then but there were so there are Bentleys and Ferraris and then bunches of lots of BMWs, and you know Lexus's and things and a couple Chevy's in a Chevy They had valet service in front of the house now fast forward we're back ten years now Good fine like it. I'm liking it go oh So the llamas, I'm told...so what are all these llamas doing here? The llamas they like to shear the llamas. They have somebody comes in and shears the llamas and then a bunch of women from Woodside and San Francisco including Ann Dorr and a bunch of these other rich women that are married to billionaires, they sit around and they spin the llama wool and then they knit with it as part

2:41:02 Coffee clatch hold on do you think this is still? Happening this there's some either that or something else is dumb. Okay, so they're taking the the Alpaca llama well alpaca llama wool and they spin it I presume They washing it to and they're treating it and then they sit around in a group these billionaire women heiresses And they and are they needing sweaters or quilts They're probably something that's square, that would be my guess. And do they feel this is in case of the nuclear holocaust? That it's a good... No way! It's like billionaire prepper wives essentially. It was one of the guys who was telling me about the spinning club and he said can you believe that I said well yeah and somehow in the conversation I said something positive about Silicon Valley to this person that was telling me all about all this. This is now or 10 years ago? This is ten years ago

2:41:59 I mean, this is not something that happened overnight. It was always suspicious but there was some positive aspect to my coverage of the valley and i thought that we were doing the world a favor in terms of the products and ideas... You mean we're changing the world? Making the world a better place? Well, I've never gone that far felt it was a positive thing. With the first PCs I totally agree, it was very positive. It was a positive thing and the guy goes off on me telling that I'm an idiot... Cook! No not cook, the guy who is telling about the knitting club. Cook was busy entertaining people. Cook showed me the llama ranch then he had to go off and do whatever He didn't tell me that llamas were there for these women

2:42:53 I'm enjoying this, by the way. So this guy goes off on me telling me that I am full of crap and Silicon Valley is a big scam it's just a big sales club they know how to sell anything they can sell ice boxes to Eskimos for all you know everything is bullcrap that its exaggerated and thats why your in this giant mansion drinking this expensive wine because it's all bullcrap! And he went off...and I thought about it afterwards and said he was right It is bull crap. It's all bull crap people are, you know and then used to when you see it lined up around the Apple store to buy the watch which will be coming out shortly. You realize that they probably get larger a bunch of suckers

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Wall of Fame and Studio Ghost Cleansing

One of the hosts describes a newly renovated "Wall of Fame" featuring photos with Michael Jackson and Tina Turner. Additionally, a "deva" was brought in to cleanse the studio (casita) with sage to remove a "farting ghost" that was supposedly causing technical bugs. The hosts humorously discuss the presence of ghosts in their homes and studios.

wall of fame· michael jackson· ghost· sage· studio bugs

2:43:35 Well, when you repeat things over and over again and every tech show is no more than a PR extension of the of tech firms who sell phones and other gadgets. Yeah, as of course people like it and they don't need any of it. Any of it... You know I'm reminded of my Nexus Galaxy which is built —I was looking at the specs— in 2011 I don't need another phone. This phone works fine, it's got 64 gigs of memory It's got a great display the radio works Everything is... The apps all work The thing is three or four years old Why should I be buying a new phone every year? That's not scratched! I put in my pocket this phone Okay let's get back to the party for second I put it in my pocket with keys and never gets scratched

2:44:21 So that was the party 10 years ago. Now, this party you were at recently...was that not a recent party? No, no, no. This was a reference to that party. I have not been at a recent one. Oh! I thought you went to a party recently. Well, I went to a party…I don't know of a party though. I may have. I don't know of one. I don't get invited out anymore. People hate me. Yeah, I have the same problem although people in Austin like me. They think I'm cool Although I have to kind of pretend, well you know they always ask me MTV stuff which i really don't care about. Yeah yeah! I got my 10 stories ready you know what hey come over the house look at my Mickey by the way when I was in New York

2:45:00 Wow, she redid my entire wall of fame. I have a wall of fame she reframed photos spectacular looking now you walk in we have this room which has her stuff My stuff is like New York Times articles that are hung up. I was at Forbes magazine, Fortune covers USA Today. Some kid comes in there and they're going to blow his mind or not just kidding him pictures of me and Michael Jackson and you know then Tina Turner and it's really it's impressive and a couple of the gold records you know that the cool ones from Aerosmith and Jackson and just nice sounds like a celebrity's office

2:45:40 Yeah, but it's a whole separate room and it's really really nice. And she did something else... She had the house cleansed! I think that's probably a wise idea. Did she bring in a witch doctor? Yes she did. She brought in a deva and they burned sage and all this stuff and apparently in the studio which is a casita There was a ghost who was stuck here and couldn't get out, who had some horrible like... died didn't die well and was stuck here. And they worked I think for half an hour just to get the ghost out of the casita. You had a ghost in your studio? Yeah apparently! I feel much better now though. I feel less you know- That the ghosts is gone? Yeah yeah This may have accounted for some bugs that you had in this system remember

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ALS Ice Bucket Challenge and PR Manipulation

The ALS Ice Bucket Challenge is identified as a highly orchestrated public relations campaign rather than a spontaneous viral movement. A clip of Kermit the Frog participating is criticized for its poor quality. The hosts argue that the campaign is a form of mass manipulation, forcing people to participate or face social stigma.

als ice bucket challenge· kermit the frog· pr campaign· viral marketing· vince mcmahon

2:46:32 Yes, well no this is the first thing I said that the the dank musty smell was gone. I think there was a ghost sitting there in the air duct and it was a pod not much of a podcasting fan No farting away Fartin ghost who knows you so you got rid of the farting ghost yeah And everything does feel very nice and clean huh? I believe in this I think this is a good idea people should look into this I think there's energy that sticks around. You don't even sound that skeptical, I think you're kind of on board. Well, I know the ghost stuff because Mimi is a big believer in ghosts and we apparently had a ghost over at the... We had a duplex we owned in Berkeley and all the kids had seen this ghost so I have to say well there probably was a ghost there

2:47:24 And I never saw the ghost. I think this whole thing is nonsense to be honest about it, but it's possible that there was something screwy that could happen with...I don't know why or how But there was a ghost over there and we said oh yeah the ghost in there became like part of the family this ghost Although they never set a table for him or her, you don't know. And it is all these reports of ghosts so it's possible he had a ghost why not? But you know be nice to know the backstory most ghosts have a back story well this ghost has now gone so we don't know no well that's probably better not to have a ghost around yeah I enjoyed that she did that and everything is really good

2:48:03 And I and you're flying saucer stuff now that shows back on track the old-fashioned show. There we are We're good to go, and we made it through the entire show without talking about the ALS ice bucket challenge Yeah is that what you want to talk about? My quick yeah, I do have something well first let me play the funniest one This is going around the world obviously people in the Netherlands and Bulgaria no No this is this I'm gonna say this right off before you start playing these clips This is not a viral campaign. This is an extremely well orchestrated public relations campaign I am going to find out who did it because this is so successful that there's no way they can shut up about it and the person that came up with the idea, the agency that's behind it and everything in between will be revealed on this show! This is the biggest crock of bullcrap And the fact that everybody's falling for it...I have the Kermit the Frog one here by the way

2:49:02 outrageous as far as I'm concerned. This shows how the public can be manipulated. Okay, Kermit the Frog will play this first yeah? Play! Greetings all this is Kermit the frog coming to you from the hot sticky swamp where i am ready to accept the ALS ice bucket challenge from WWE's Vince McMahon in which by the way he referred to me as a pesky amphibian... To which I reply This doesn't even sound like Kermit. Well the real Kermit's dead, that was- but this is the Kermit people. There are people who can do a better job than that! Yeah I think so. Being an amphibian it turns out that evidently getting drenched by freezing cold water could actually make me go totally dormant and my heart could stop but no matter at all half an hour ago i had 10 bags of ice delivered here to the swamp and by now

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Lindsay Lohan and the Guilt of the Flagellants

Lindsay Lohan's flight from London to New York just to participate in the Ice Bucket Challenge on Jimmy Fallon's show is cited as proof of the campaign's absurdity. The hosts compare the phenomenon to the "flagellants" of the 1300s, who whipped themselves in public due to plague-related guilt. They argue that modern celebrities are "guilt-ridden" and use the challenge as a public spectacle to feel better about their wealth.

lindsay lohan· jimmy fallon· flagellants· christian guilt· mass hysteria

2:49:52 Well, they should have melted into several gallons of freezing cold water. Wow this is really crap! So not only am I... Okay so you can stop that now and now i want to mention something that happened last night Which I'm going through the late night comedy shows just to see what's what. And Lindsay Lohan, who has got a play in London... I don't know how she does it but she is in London doing a play She's one of the characters in one of the plays They flew her from London to New York To accept the Ice Bucket Challenge and dump ice on her Where did that happen? On the London talk show? It was on Jimmy Fallon Show which was in New York

2:50:32 and Fallon dumped the ice on her, and then she went back to get on a plane to go back. This is an outrageous waste of resources and stupidity on everybody's part! And so that when I saw Lindsay Lohan coming in from London just as get ice dumped down... She never said she was giving money or anything. She just dumped ice on her so she could have a clip of it Then I knew it was a public relations scam and it's completely out of control and anyone who takes part in it is Just say it Is this? I think it's fine that the ALS hired somebody to do this and get they don't think they expected it to be Do as well as it did. They've got over ten million dollars, maybe twenty by now lots of money But anyone who falls for this is a sucker Yeah, I find this

2:51:18 Interesting, and I'm very glad that you're going to look into the origins. There is a Wikipedia page for it and I think it's worth discussing since you and I have both been called out and neither of us are gonna do this. And just not...I'm just not gonna be forced into doing any of this crap. And if you remember the early days of The Call Out was you either give some money to this charity or get ice dumped now because you wanna get a picture of yourself getting ice dumped on here like Bill Gates who apparently had your dumped ice on himself And then, but they always...they dump ice and they give money to the charity. That was not the original idea. The idea was you get called out and you give money to the charity or you get iced dumped on you—not both! But everyone always...here's what I think. I believe that a lot of these people Bill Gates and all the people that have had ice dumped on them are guilt-ridden.

2:52:05 They're guilt-ridden people that need...this is like the flagellants in the 1300s, who during the era of The Great Plague they would go down the street big groups of them and slap themselves with chains and whips. And they'd whip their backs so there were bleeding. There was thousands of them and they would do this in all the towns. These flagellants had a...there was some sort of Christian guilt that's going on. It sounds like flatulence but that's not what you mean? Flagellant? Okay, it's hitting yourself. Flagellate is so you can hit somebody else. You could flagellate someone's go whipping and who are these people doing this the Christian flagellants that was the name of them Sorry, and there was a she was like a cult of people doing this to themselves during the 1300 During the plague because they weren't dead And so they felt they had to flagellate I was part of it and they thought that maybe but would get God's attention It would cure the diseases and all the rest if there's a million it's very interesting thing to study These guys here also became borderline rock stars

2:53:06 And they would throw themselves at them. I like this analogy So anyway, so these people these guilt-ridden people would just beat themselves up going down the streets and they would always do it as a public spectacle in a big parade They'd go down beating themselves in the back and this is what we're seeing here This is a public spectacle of guilt ridden people drawing attention to themselves, oh look at me! Look at me. And then dumping ice on themselves like idiots and this to me is a form of mass hysteria that I don't know if we're ever going to see anything quite this crazy but it is the people that's triggered it the public relations who brought the celebrities in because that's what really did it by the way the celebrities not a bunch of people in Silicon Valley

CHAPTER 52 / 58 Discussion

Bill Gates and the Psychology of Wealth Guilt

The participation of Bill Gates in the Ice Bucket Challenge is analyzed as a manifestation of his deep-seated guilt over his massive wealth. The hosts discuss the social pressure to give to charity after coming into money, relating it to personal experiences with lawsuits in the Netherlands. They argue that the challenge is less about ALS and more about the participants' need for public validation.

bill gates· charity· guilt· creative commons· gossip magazines

2:53:53 Jason Calican is dumping ice on himself as nobody cares but The people that are the hot celebrities, they're all Gil Ridden. I don't know if there even MKUltra types doing it? I have no idea but people are dumping crap on them filming it Bill Gates is dumping ice water on himself getting soaking wet filming it this is sick and It's telling me that there's something wrong with the culture And there's something specifically wrong with these people who want to do this instead of just giving the money I mean This is a there's an illness It's like, and it's not oh Dvorak you know fun. No this is really weird people. Well I think this does play in some regard into my international health crisis analysis This does have to do with the culture of broadcasting projecting showing your life being a part YOLO

2:54:53 all of these things. When Bill Gates did it, this is where your analysis goes a little askew. You're telling me that Bill Gates Who supposedly is the do-gooder saving children everywhere as long as they're black in Africa? With malaria with vaccines of these he's saving the entire world He sponsors every public radio television program and he's guilt ridden about ALS. He's guilty No, it's not about ALS It's about themselves yes this has nothing to do with ALS it just happens to be at the beneficiary So I agree, but when you say guilt-ridden why is he guilt ridden? Bill Gates is totally guilt ridden

2:55:37 I mean, he has like got all this money that he doesn't really deserve and there's some element of that. He's always had that everybody who is rich has that element and he's also playing games with that money and then he gets stuck with Parkinson's which is like God striking him. There's no doubt in my mind that he's guilt-ridden. I think all these people are guilt ridden So celebrities go in front of a camera and then dump ice on yourself make a fool of yours look at me boom I'm now soak. I'm soaking wet as it wet duck you know to me this is very similar, I've sued Gossip magazines in the Netherlands

2:56:16 not because they published something about me, but because they took pictures that I had taken that I owned and they printed them in magazines and did that without permission. And didn't compensate me. And so I've always taken as a Pew, and this is why if you look at Adam Curry creative commons, you'll see that I've won some significant lawsuits, not in the money. You lose money on the whole deal believe me? Yeah, this was... And I didn't do any crowdfunding crowdsourcing or did it myself But whenever you win something, and I thought it was only particular to the Netherlands but it may be worldwide. People would always say well of course you're gonna give that money to charity right? I'm like no!

2:57:00 No, I'm not going to give it to charity and it's very strange if you come in...I think here's maybe the guilt-ridden part. If you come into money and you don't feel good this is oh my god! I think I've got it. If you come into money and you don't feel you really deserve it which in Bill Gates' case certainly would be true He has billions of dollars. We kind of bought something put some together, but a lot of other people did the work Actors they know that they really you know The millions of dollars they sometimes get and by the way have no problem with it But that is a deep down guilt That you're talking about like I have to do something because I don't feel good about how much I have It's kind of the inequality thing versus anybody else and if I do this

CHAPTER 53 / 58 Discussion

Leonardo DiCaprio and Celebrity Social Pressure

Leonardo DiCaprio's reported anger at being "called out" for the Ice Bucket Challenge illustrates the social pressure involved. The hosts discuss how being called out forces celebrities into a "club" where they must participate or be labeled a "douchebag." They also mention being called out themselves on Twitter by Jason Calacanis but refusing to participate.

leonardo dicaprio· jason calacanis· twitter· social pressure· douchebag

2:57:47 which is just another version of changing your Twitter icon to black. If I do this, then at least i'll get people off my back and feel good and have contributed. Leonardo DiCaprio one of our producers does physical therapy stuff for him And he was called out for the challenge and he was really angry. He's like, I don't want to do this but if I don't everyone will think I'm a douchebag and he had put up more than $100. Yeah. So that is your guilt! You're right in addition to a lot of people...and i see the ones in The Netherlands who I know

2:58:24 who really, if you get called into it you're being called into the club. You see? Into the club of celebrities because you are then by some...you are connected to Bill Gates and you're connected to Leonardo DiCaprio because you also did The Challenge It is something of this era, the way it's being done now. But I think you're right. How do you spell flagellants? F-L-A-G-E-L-L something... Flagellants A-N-T-S maybe. There should be a Wikipedia page for that. There is. Flagellant.

2:59:04 practitioners of an extreme form of mortification of their own flesh by whipping it with various instruments. Yeah, or doing something stupid like pouring ice on your head which can cause if you have head trauma it can cause ALS just so you know yeah... So I have a negative... That's very good analysis the taking it back to the flagellants I think that is spot on. It's a human...it's kind of like that combined with Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame and what's, but funny enough or maybe just no one gives a crap about us but we were

2:59:50 Was it Leo who called us out to do this on Twitter? Yeah, it was you me and Jason Calacanis right and Jason Calacanis has a lot of people following him And he's like oh those guys won't do what I haven't responded. You respond He said he said I'll do it. I'll do it course he will he's a Publicity how many thinks is the way to get a little more couple more followers But I'm not getting any hate I'm gonna he says no. I don't think those two douchebags will do it No and so And then you said, oh we're going to get hate. I said no, I don't think so because most people that I talk to that aren't in this league of guilt-ridden celebrity don't think this is interesting they think it's stupid

CHAPTER 54 / 58 Discussion

National Mac and Cheese Day and PR Origins

The upcoming "National Mac and Cheese Day" is noted as another likely PR-driven event. The hosts express their exhaustion with the "mac and cheese vibe" in marketing and restaurants. They plan to investigate the origins of the Ice Bucket Challenge and other similar PR stunts that have taken over the cultural conversation.

mac and cheese· national mac and cheese day· kraft· pr history· lindsay lohan

3:00:29 I mean, I'm talking about like, you know, JC's wife. JC doesn't even know about it. Most people don't see it that way. There is one...we had one guy from No Agenda listeners says, I think they should do it," whatever. But anyways beside the point, the point is that this is a weird phenomenon that I am absolutely convinced was triggered by PR person, a person. Well it started in the golfing community I'm going to identify the person because they need to be recognized for what i consider a great moment in PR history So we have this list The Ice Bucket Challenge participants I think this is very important list to have and keep Because it does say something about these people No, I think it does

3:01:29 Well, it was when Lindsay Lohan flew out from London just to do this in public on a national show. That was when I said that was the end. Somebody sent me the Kermit The Frog thing saying that was jumping the shark. I think it's Lindsay Lohan coming in from England. It's ridiculous! I remember when Phil Collins did Live Aid and he took the Concord From New York to Wembley Stadium and played twice on the same day. That was like, wow! That's so cool! That was extravagant Here's Vin Diesel Ice Bucket Challenge Michelle Obama Angeline Jolie and Putin That's why I liked it Yeah, no, that one... I heard that one I wanted to see it Of course nobody has a real elite will do this

3:02:26 These are all the non- there's no elite doing this and then they're not gonna well George When I see Bush George George Bush did it. Well that tells you something? Well, he's technically dead so I know mmm, yeah, look good. Yeah It wouldn't surprise me if Not gonna happen So I've got a couple of clips that I want to get out of the way before we're getting near the end of this show. Yes, I don't know if you have more stuff but I do have a million clips actually but I'm going to stretch these out for the next three days because Monday coming is National Mac and Cheese Day. Oh my goodness!

3:03:13 Okay, and who is this sponsored by? Kraft or who does this? Who does the... I have no idea. Probably US government so i am going to... Will it be will it be my presidential proclamation because it does not count otherwise So I went and I went First I got a mac and cheese, there's something I got a mac and cheese clip. You sure you don't want to do this on Sunday because then what would you wanna tease it? No, just when I want this okay let's just play this the Mac and Cheese song which you could also play at the end of the show by the way along with the other end-of-show thing that you were talking about which is... Ah! The anthem yeah yep so the Mac & Cheese song

CHAPTER 55 / 58 Discussion

Thomas Jefferson and Macaroni and Cheese History

A clip discusses the myth that Thomas Jefferson invented macaroni and cheese. The dish is identified as a traditional staple in African-American Thanksgiving dinners and a "depression-era" food. The hosts mock the "racist" label often applied to them while discussing the cultural and economic history of the dish.

thomas jefferson· macaroni and cheese· thanksgiving· depression food· black culture

3:03:51 In fact, we can save it to the end of the show but you can play a bit of it if you want and then play at the end of the show which is the Mac & Cheese song. Which triggered me to get all these mac and cheese clips. Okay I'll play a little bit. What's this recording? It's crap! Sorry, it is crap Can you get a better version of it? No, I don't think so. I don't think that's listenable... I could hear it Okay, don't play the Mac and Cheese song. Anyway it goes on...it's a very good song actually very well written. And then so we get...okay So I get some clips like here is the Mac and Cheese for Thanksgiving this is a black

3:04:38 online cook, one of many by the way. Oh you sent me this video which was a violation! No no no that video I sent you is not in this list That video had no clippable parts This is a different woman and she serves food Which clip is this? This is mac n cheese for Thanksgiving which I thought was kind of sick That's what the Obamas do. Now, so I find it kind of weird that anyone would consider mac and cheese a Thanksgiving. Have you ever heard of such thing? Yes! What?! Yes!! I betcha maybe can find the clip even Michelle Obama talked about... let's see... Michelle they that's what these that's what Michelle here Michelle Mac & Cheese here we go yes she they served that for Thanksgiving That i think is a black thing

3:05:54 Oh, I never... Maybe it is. Everybody deserves their mac and cheese I don't know if she talked to...I remember talking about this. Okay, well then we'll go with that. It's a traditional African-American Black American dish is having mac and cheese at Thanksgiving. Well it actually stems from here play the Mac and Cheese Jefferson clip! I didn't know this even though i checked it out it's not true but everyone believes it to be true oh my god very nice very tasty very cheesy but it's not going to be like running with cheese sauce 8 ounces of pasta version, you will have a lot more cheese sauce. So it's up to you! Thomas Jefferson the inventor of macaroni and cheese also the author of The Declaration Of Independence he and our founding fathers fought for our right to put in as much or little macaroni in our macaroni and cheese as we damn well please so never forget the principles on which this country was founded And that's it! Macaroni & Cheese how easy was that?

3:06:53 This is infuriating what you're doing to me. Okay, well National Mac and Cheese Day... I expect you to have a complete rundown. Whatever you're expecting is not going to happen so let's play now there are now blacks who might be right like mac and cheese because it's cheap food it's depression food. There we go the racist No Agenda guys again. The racist No Agenda guys. So let's listen what does a rich black person do though? I want to play too quickly. They put mac and cheese It's not that it has anything to do with money. It's cultural. No, but rich mac and cheese is different if you're Patti LaBelle and you got all this money Oh And she got a gorgeous kitchen This is what you doing so this is the Matt Pat I have two clips from her the patty labelled too many cheese clip for starters

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Patti LaBelle's Seven-Cheese Macaroni and Cheese

Singer Patti LaBelle's recipe for macaroni and cheese, which includes seven types of cheese and lobster, is reviewed. The hosts find her inclusion of a story about her musical director's prostate cancer in a cooking segment to be bizarre. They criticize the "elitist" trend of adding expensive ingredients like truffles or lobster to a simple, cheap dish.

patti labelle· velveeta· lobster· cookbook· prostate cancer

3:07:40 Patti LaBelle, a famous American singer. sharp cheddar, Monterey Jack, mozzarella provolone and Velveeta. Those are the seven cheeses I'll use. I have my first cookbook with the macaroni and cheese um...and since then i've grown up and I've grown into this seafood macaroni and cheese lady thanks to Bud Ellison, my musical director who passed of a prostate cancer some time ago. Oh that's nice mac-and-cheese prostate cancer. I don't know why she put that in!

3:08:26 So, her mac and cheese now besides having seven different cheeses including Velveeta is essentially lobster. She puts huge tons of lobster in this thing but listen to this little part here which I thought was the kind of the elitist musician level, high end musician with the way she mixes things and the way she deals with all the rings and shit she's got on. This is the second clip. So whenever I cook this, I think of Bud And it's gonna be with lobster That's the prostate guy? Yeah. Bud? Sure Added to the cheeses and the Come to Cheezus everybody Egg in the seasoned salt and butter and half-and-half cream

3:09:11 First, I'm going to start by taking off the bling-bling. The nastiest thing that you can see in a kitchen is somebody cooking and tossing food with their freaking rings on and long fingernails. Tossing salad! Okay? Nasty. So put the ring over here. I'll pick up some gloves because i'm gonna work this macaroni and cheese with my hands Yeah And I don't trust people's hands People have their hands all in your food and sticking it in chicken Just passing on stuff. First you gotta get the gloves on, now that takes a little while then you get them on and ya hope that this bracelet won't fall into the macaroni and cheese. She's got a $10,000 bracelet on which is dang good! Hold on a second... The genesis of this conversation for those who are new to the program is the

3:10:02 appearance of mac and cheese as a depression era food, very similar to the grilled cheese. And we have noticed an incredible increase in the marketing of mac and cheese which is very cheap cheddar melted with cheap noodles and it's crap. Yes exactly that's all you really need. You only need noodles and some butter and some cheddar. You don't need all this other bull crap Well here is the recipe You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheese macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together Mac n' cheese! Mac n' cheese! Mac n' cheese! Now since this started And I don't know how two years ago maybe we started noticing the mac-and-cheese vibe Yeah at least Not a day goes by that someone doesn't send me a picture

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Ebola Scare in Germany and Vaccine Stocks

A recent Ebola scare in a Berlin job center is dismissed as "bullcrap" after it was revealed the woman had not been to West Africa. The hosts note that the news caused a significant "pop" in the stock prices of companies developing Ebola vaccines. They lament not being "sophisticated investors" who could have profited from the media-driven panic.

ebola· berlin· germany· vaccine· stock market

3:10:52 of a menu or something in the supermarket. I would like to make a suggestion, don't do that anymore it wastes my time and it's funny the first thousand pictures that I got of mac and cheese and oh look at Mac & Cheese food truck! Oh look Mac & Cheese with truffles! Look $50 for Mac & Cheese dinner! I get it It's true, its happening You get that too, people? Tweeting. I do a lot of tweets. Tweet it! Tweeting is fine. Tweet all you want because then i can retweet and but email please try and keep that a little more exclusive... And don't start a dialogue with me!!!

3:11:33 I have one, two, three four more clips which I'm going to move to Sunday because Mac and Cheese Day is Monday. And then we're gonna see how long we can go without any references the mac and cheese which i don't think will be very long. I have no problem talking about mac and cheese. I'm sick and tired of the mac and cheese. And I had mac and cheeses a couple months ago and it made me want to throw up! I can't believe eating this at a restaurant. It's inexcusable in a restaurant with shells It's not mac and cheese, it has to be done on an elbow. I know! There is one woman here that does it with bow ties. People sending me recipes... Stop! Recipes? That's not a recipe dish. It should throw together with some cheap cheddar and elbows. People send me recipes of mac and cheese. I don't want recipes of mac and cheese anymore.

3:12:29 I have another teaser for the Sunday show. I'm gonna talk about it, I got some bullets. Wait let's end the segment. Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand. There you go I do want to talk about Ebola on Sunday. I do only have one clip that I can use as a teaser, which is the Ebola in Germany clip. Okay. And an Ebola scare in Europe right now. A woman rushed to the hospital with symptoms of Ebola in Germany. That hospital's in Berlin and doctors say the woman got sick at a job center with symptoms that included a high fever. Emergency crews quarantining other people at the job center and they rushed the sick woman to the hospital

3:13:08 The hospital says the woman has not been to the epidemic area in West Africa, so they don't think it's Ebola but you see all the precautions they're taking as they haven't ruled it out yet. Yeah we're gonna get a lot of those stories. Oh yeah another piece of bullcrap We should have invested in the companies that are apparently making the vaccine. That had a nice pop and someone sent me these two company names, I forgot to bring it up on the show and then next show had already gone up like 50% or something. Yeah it would've been good one. Yeah we're such sophisticated investors you know? We're not sophisticated investors this show is not an investment show! No but even your investment show doesn't make you rich. No it doesn't...I'm not looking to get rich

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Seventh Anniversary and Gitmo National Anthem

The show concludes with a look forward to the seventh anniversary and the upcoming episode 666, which coincides with the Day of the Dead. The hosts reiterate their commitment to the value-for-value model and play the "Gitmo National Anthem" as requested by a donor. A brief clip of Joe Biden closes the episode.

anniversary· value-for-value· joe biden· gitmo anthem· day of the dead

3:13:56 I didn't mean rich. You have to if you're gonna get into the stock market to make money, you have to just devote yourself to it. I'd rather devote myself to this show and other things that are useful to the public at large. Now you're talking! That's what we do and they give us... We don't have to invest in them. We get income from these fine producers People who care about what we're doing. Although in August they all go on vacation But and I find it hard to believe that you do not have five dollars, but some people don't have five dollars Don't worry about it. We'll catch you next time but if you enjoyed anything Compared two other things you do and other things you consume your media diet meter or there's that we certainly enjoy doing it with You and for you And I'm very happy in I feel privileged as we move towards our seventh anniversary and the big beast triple six show

3:14:55 Yeah, 777.77 The Big Beast Did you know that on the R666 number show 666 would be November 2nd is the same exact day as the Mexican Day of the Dead celebration? No Isn't that weird It's not uncanny or out-of-this world but strange Everybody will be back on Sunday With a faux pas Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state. Thank you for listening to us in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak as promised Gitmo National Anthem and a couple of clips to play out See you Sunday right here on no agenda Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your nation national anthem

3:15:51 In the morning, Gitmo Nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west down under To the lowlands and beyond distracted slaves Hear our Gitmo Nation song I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen.