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00:00 Ahmed, swallow the key! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday August 3rd 2014 it's time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 640! This is no agenda. Narrowly avoiding quarantine here at the South Austin Safehouse in FEMA Region Six and the capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's also in the morning...I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill! Well well, well. Well that's about it yep We'll be funny just to make a one-minute show we could do it mm-hmm I don't know would be how good It would be probably not very good if is as good as any one minute show ever I've had all kinds of humming problems today Oh Is it is it Mickey? No no there's something going on with humming no My microphone all the sudden started picking up and that's the see that's the NSA oh

01:04 That's about the that's but the only answer I have for because I couldn't if I point the and the microphone in different direction It picks up different Frequently you want to hear it. Well, you know I first let me my microphone does the same thing? I'm don't move too much Let me remove free just a little bit All right, if you're not gonna be serious about it. Okay. I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry go on no never mind Nevermind we'll just I want to hear the humming Mike It's fine will deal with him in this humming my little deal with it. I've heard about this yeah It's what we would call Weird which is another one of those words? I believe has been overused in popular culture weird have you noticed all you'll notice it now and

01:54 Every so there I'm getting annoyed by his amaze balls Okay, so we have amazing. We have what's the other one people like to use? Amazing awesome awesome awesome And then amazed balls But but be on the lookout for weird and it's with its whenever something is not amazing or awesome Or a maze balls it almost by definition is going to be weird And weird is, you know if you really look at the definition of weird it would mean unearthly uncanny bizarre Odd. Odd? Odd is actually... If you catch yourself using the word weird a lot please use odd instead. Yeah odd is much better and much shorter yeah It's shorter yes

02:45 Just another one of those words I'm paying it. It's like yeah worried what people newcomers to the show have to realize that we worry ourselves sick about the vocabulary About using these these mean like words that people just use drop in routinely and it catches on to us, too You know no We get away from it That's like what? I think this that and the others a good example is that you have to say this that any other thing oh I never do that, but I did it once. I got nailed and then of course the fact of the matter... Which has morphed? It is morphed. Fact of the matter has now become the truth of the matter. Yes! Obama's saying that. I'm hearing a lot of people saying that. The truth of the matter. But this is the same bull crap. I read an interesting essay on the word share

03:33 and how that has changed significantly, particularly in our digital culture where to share of course was mainly had to do with distribution. So I'm going to share either distribution of... File sharing! Well yes file sharing that already changed some of it where sharing used to be i would have something i will share half of it with you So that's not, you know...that's dividing something and giving a piece to other people. Then we had file sharing as the same entity giving you a copy of it and then share now means communicate so share as in share it through social media or I'd like to share something with you Adam

04:21 Yeah, but the word has changed significantly in its meaning. And if you look at...and this is a good one! If you look at terms and services of any these bull crap Silicon Valley companies and they'll say we will not share your information with everybody They're not lying because sharing is not the same as selling Right it's not. And these words matter Well talking about words that matter I've got a couple here on Eclipse for the Evergreen Collection. Oh, wait a minute did we pick us couple of the same true... yeah we did You got the Truth or Guy? Yeah! Of course! Eigenwald from Newsweek? Oh no, nah I'm not... you got a different guy?

05:06 That guy, yeah. He's a horrible... No here is the... This is from him! This is the blah-blah-blah block clip. Yeah okay let's set this up this was on C-SPAN we both saw this. This is um uh the writer Kurt Eichenwald I want to think his name maybe Dan? Well see I got it written down here on the back of an envelope hold on he wrote... I just have Eichenwald and yes me too and he wrote an article in Newsweek How conspiracy theories are killing the nation. They're ruining it and it's horrible for America, It's just the worst possible thing and I watched this with my mouth agape! My mouth was agape

05:49 I have the setup clip, which is the anti-conspiracy theory guy intro. Doesn't it happen often that we really come up with the exact same clips? This is a strange occurrence. Eichenwald is the author of our recent Newsweek cover story The Plots to Destroy America about conspiracy theorists and theories that they believe in He joins us now to talk about that story Mr. Eichenwald why should those who don't believe in conspiracy theorists worry about those that do? Well, because it's harming the country. I mean we've gotten into a point that is very different from what we've experienced in the past where you have actually politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories who are advocating conspiracy theories. Just the other day you had a member of Congress who was saying

06:40 you know, the Obama administration wanted the children of refugees from Latin America to come into the United States so we could perform medical experimentation on them. Now this was interesting to me I thought that was very funny but i looked it up and who Who said this? I wanted to know who said this and in what context was it said. Do you have any idea?" No, I didn't go as far as you went but i want to say one thing This guy obviously doesn't pay much attention the Congress because they're saying whacked out crap and always have been We listen to enough of these guys. Yeah, this is crazy shit! I mean give me a break Well this is of course it being Newsweek and being a particular slant of media This was a swipe at Michelle Bachmann the Crazy nutjob Republican Oh yeah that would make sense But I wanted to find out what had she said about Actually let's just um... Let me get your uh... Let's get this clip back again

07:39 Because he's framed it in a very certain way. Where is it? No, I can't... Why can't I find the intro right? Let me just listen to this again He frames it in such a way that if you were to repeat what you think he said It was Well, let's forget it. Let's just listen to what he says. And theories that they believe in—he joins us now to talk about that story. Mr. Eichenwald, why should those who don't believe in conspiracy theorists worry about those that do? Well, because it's harming the country. I mean, we've gotten into a point that is very different from what we've experienced in the past.

08:15 where you have actually politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories. Okay, politicians who are repeating conspiracy theories... Who are advocating conspiracy theories. I mean just the other day you had a member of Congress You know, the Obama administration wanted the children of refugees from Latin America to come into the United States so we could perform medical experimentation on them. OK, so what we are looking for is some proof that a member of Congress has said that the Obama administration wants children coming in from South American countries, refugees so we can perform medical experiments on them. Like a... I don't know kind of it's kind of like a Nazi Jew thing if you really yeah make lampshades out of their skin okay so i went looking for this because i had not heard this and and i'm pretty much uh in tune with all the conspiracy theories

09:15 And this is something that was wide... the headline pretty much universally says, Bachman wingnut crazy batshit crazy kook wants children. It says Obama wants to experiment on children and it all is derived from this one interview on some talk radio show and mind bear in mind Michelle Bachmann a foster parent to like 20 children. She and her husband have been foster parents for, uh, for a long time. So she does know a little bit about the child protective services. A foster child by definition is award of the state. We have 400,000 foster children in this country and now president Obama is trying to bring all of those

10:08 the foreign national that you legal alien to the country and he is that if you will put them in a foster care system well i will tell you from personal experience we don't have enough foster parents now in the country for the kids in america week weeks certainly don't have an apposter parents are all of that illegal aliens but the president is trying to bring him right now but again that more kid that you can see how it's not we can't imagine doing that yeah but if you have a hospital and they are going to get millions of dollars in government grant that they can conduct medical research on somebody an award of the state campaign now all a little kid camp

10:52 say no if they're a ward of the state. So here you could have this institution getting millions of dollars from our government to do medical experimentation and a kid can't even say, No it's sick. Follow the money." I would say it's a little different than the way Mr Eichenwald portrayed it. Yeah yeah that's very disappointing. What? That some member of the media is full of crap?! No, that I didn't catch that. I just assumed he was full of crap in some other way or something minor but to actually have the proof which you have and points for this... I'll give you one point. But to actually bring this out is a disgusting

11:37 piece of evidence. It's just disgusting that he would do the way he did it and the whole thing that he did was this way... Well you have your set of his clips I just want to say, no we have the same clips trust me but i just wanna say if in the show notes you'll find a link to this interview You need to look at this A-hole smug face With his big head and he's laughing and sneering, and scowling. And like, ha-ha! These crazy... I think it's pretty much Republicans are crazy that's pretty much what his article really is saying as far as i'm concerned. Yeah well there's that

12:20 Alright, you do your clips. We have the same ones believe me. Okay well he goes on and he does a kind of a... He does a roundabout way of bringing things into the conversation but let's play his This is the Anti-conspiracy guy on agenda 21. This is the opener here's what he opens with yeah And and this is why I was grabbing these clips like oh John well He'll love this but of course we saw that most say they saw the same What are some of the conspiracy theories that you think are causing some of the most harm in this country right now? Well, one of the worst is the conspiracy theory about agenda 21 The minute I heard this I okay conspired we have read the agenda 21 documents

13:05 Which, if you printed it out it would make me nine feet tall. Oh! It is so... I actually wrote that-I told this before but I've written to the United Nations to get a printout of it because I couldn't buy enough paper To print out Agenda 21 And they won't send me one So before we play the rest of this Let's just, we've both analyzed Agenda 21 and it is a United Nations charter which essentially sets out how the earth is more important than the people on it and how we need to protect the earth under all circumstances. A big paraphrase because it's such a huge document, but it has been the guiding light and it's not some kind of agreement or you know... It's not like that human rights guidelines its guidelines but from the guidelines

13:59 Thousands of non-governmental organizations and governmental organizations have received billions of dollars to study, research, create reports and to create this vision. Is that a fair assessment of what Agenda 21 is? I think that's as good as any. And, you know...I can tell you right now, I said those words and there are people all over the country reaching for their phones. No! Did you reach for my phone? No, I didn't reach for your phone. Because what that one is, is a belief- There is- Agenda 21 He can't even start explaining what Agenda 21 is but okay

14:39 10 to 21 is a non-binding agreement that was signed during the original George Bush administration back in the early 1990s. Yeah, the New World Order guy! They try and make it sound as though it's innocuous because the original George Bush was on it. But he WAS the new world order guy! And by the way ladies and gentlemen you're listening to John C. Dvorak say this okay? This isn't your crackpot curry. We all know this. in the UN saying that the countries were making a commitment to basically to care for the environment, basically to act in ways that preserved

15:24 the environment allowed for, you know things in terms of planning and terms of urban development. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah So he's now taking a document which is too big to print on a home printer without running out of ink and he says, it's just blah blah blah. It's just blah blah blah blah blah. What a dick! Give him the... You finish it off because I have the punchline built in for this. And I'll shut up.

16:11 Nothing big. It's a non-binding commitment this has become a belief in an overarching conspiracy of the New World Order that is trying to seize private property in the United States, to grant trees rights of humans to, there are actually people saying they're going to shuffle us off all into train cars and send us to work camps. I mean it's crazy stuff! Again with the Nazi stuff? What is he talking about?! Again with the Nazis and Jews...

16:46 What is he talking about that people are, oh yeah somebody brought up Agenda 21 because they want to give rights to trees. This is nonsense! It's very very poor Journalism? Well, I'm not going to say that's good or bad journalism because it is not journalism at all. But the rights to trees...I am hearing the guy say that people against Agenda 21 think that the world government, the evil world government coming our way is going to give rights to trees I have never heard that and i listen to these guys, listen to all the right-wing stuff and the left wing. And you hang out with me from time to time! Hang out with you? I have never heard this guy is making it up! Yeah, haven't heard the rights of trees... He's got a right to vote? Is that what he's implying? Hey man my pine tree votes no! I found it very interesting that first of all why this was even

17:52 I mean how can this... well Newsweek, maybe that says enough. Newsweek is not what Newsweek used to be and the fact it's back on the stands is weird What? Did you say weird? Is that uncanny or is it unearthly or is it odd It's very strange that Newsweek is back on the newsstands Isn't that owned by Jane Harmon? The Arab that owns them now, I'm not sure Oh, I thought she bought it But good call on the weird. The reason they were playing this on C-SPAN was to counterbalance the other interview they had with the 9-11 truth or gauge, who's the architect that owns you know... the architects and engineers. Before you go there do I get to do one of my clips from Eichenwalde? You have another clip from him but i'll let you take it! Take it! Okay the one I wanted to grab was this one obviously

18:48 The big one are the anti-vacciners. And I've never heard, I've heard anti-vaxxer's...I never heard anti-vacciners. He doesn't even have the lingo down he doesn't even know the slogans right? These are people who believe that there is a vast conspiracy among the government and uh the pharmaceutical industry Uh yeah there is! And the vast conspiracy is indemnification The pharmaceutical corporations can not be sued if you are in any way harmed or injured by a vaccination. That is a conspiracy! Is that not the textbook definition of a conspiracy? They are breathing together, conspiring to make sure that no one can sue them. I would question that because to me a conspiracy is something nobody knows about

19:46 It's a backroom deal that, that's never revealed. If you went on the street and asked how many people knew about this... You went on the street and asked people where California was here in California they wouldn't be able to tell you. Okay but the point is it wasn't like a big press release There's no reason to publicize such things The public might be annoyed To hide the realities of the dangers of vaccinations Anything you have has a danger. Anything that is injected into your body has a danger. I love this false analogy! I love the false analogy! Explain it. Hey, when you step out on the street, you could be hit by a bus! You put something in your body? It could be dangerous! Hey get that thing out of me!

20:32 Stop sticking that in me could be dangerous the question is is the danger significant Statistically significant or is it significant compared to not having it? It's only when you're not one of the 1% that it's completely not significant The anti-vacciners are again living in a world... Listen to me. ...this is the wrong term, again. Yeah, Jenny McCarthy! Listen up he's talking about you crazy Nazi bitch. Of these vast conspiracies that are hiding these vast problems... Vast! VAST! ...that don't exist. That have no... VAST! VAST! VAST! VAST PROBLEMS! VAST CONSPIRACIES!

21:10 Yeah, like not vast. It's just a couple guys yeah been disproven over and over again The problem is we now have a recurrence You know measles was almost completely defeated in this country until the anti-vaccine errs came along now Measles is on the upswing so really I that's also That's very questionable, I agree. There is no reputable proof that you know that backs the idea up, okay? Then I had one more and then I'll let you read before you go Do you remember we did it on the show at fact is on one of the all-purpose clip shows about three years ago four years ago when the measles thing was hitting a Fever pitch yeah to the point where they're having TV shows about it. Yeah

22:07 And everything was caused by measles, you know. They arrested some woman who didn't get a shot on law and order and because then they nailed her for homicide because her kid got the measles and gave it to a mom or something like that. This is beating this dead horse... I don't notice that measles is going berserk. So we have an epidemic! Now this guy and his anti-vaccinationers or whatever it's called. Anti-vacciners. Anti-vacciners, he doesn't get a response right which is bad sign now he used to be an investigative reporter for the New York Times and now he's working for really yeah a very low grade operation Newsweek used to be a famous high grade operation with so you know why would you quit the New York Times to work for this?

22:57 I don't know. Well, and then he got into my favorite topic which i like very much and of course perfect opportunity for so many producers to call in and at least give him a name the morning which did not happen as always. Here's the one I like the most. You know, take the 9-11 truthers you know these are people who believe that the Bush administration actually knocked down the World Trade Center and actually set this all up so we could have wars... Yeah, you know then I'm listening to them thinking well

23:33 Yeah, that's disputable if you want. But what is not disputable is how we add how the Bush administration actually went about ensuring that we could have wars by invading Iraq and I went back to some United Nations testimony which of course has complete conspiracy theory that I am bringing this up and this is a recording of the Bush administration's own conspiracy theory which now we know to be a lie. But of course we can joke about it, there were no weapons of mass destruction to be found and President Bush even joked about how stupid that was but it really came down to Colin Powell having these weapons in 1995 the quantities were vast less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax

24:19 about this amount. And remember he's holding up the vial of anthrax right there! Right there, he got a prop which I'm sure it was baking soda but okay it's just about the amount of a teaspoon less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an envelope shut down the United States Senate and he goes on and on so that is exactly what happened And now of course you can argue about the Twin Towers and how or what, but there is no denying that the Bush administration lied to the American public and used props baking soda in a little vial.

24:57 to go to war with Iraq. You know, what you end up with is not well here is my evidence that leads me to these conclusions it's let me tear down the official story Why do you think this was published at all? It's a little annoying that we have Cass Sunstein, who of course is married to the Power Woman, Powers woman who was our UN Ambassador Samantha Powers. A UN ambassador he wrote the book on conspiracy theories He writes continuous articles about how to infiltrate the conspiracy chat rooms on the internet and co-op them What are they worried about if we're just a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing crazy truthers and anti vaccine errs Why are they worried about us? Aren't we aren't we just I know what's going on. All right, they're worried sick about the 28 page report

25:53 There's a word out. We got to do something to muddy the water So let's bring this guy because one of the things they did on C-SPAN to hopefully muddy The waters is bring on Gage, the architect I have some story clips from him. I thought he was very weak actually I did not like his appearance Well, he's not a good speaker They need a dynamic person, but then you can't... I think their thinking is that you need some dry guy. Well let's set this up for a moment for people who do not know and don't want to think we're just some crazy anti-vacciners here! Vacciners? Anti-vacciners There are two groups which i personally have respect for who have evaluated the events of 9 11 One is architects and engineers thousands of architects and engineers

26:35 who say the official story does not make sense according to our schooling and our our expertise. And then there's pilots for 9-11 Truth, which I am a member of who has say the data even the officially published data such as these aircraft flying at 400 miles 350 miles an hour at 2 000 feet it's just not possible oh it is if you want to fly without wings because they've been ripped off and you're burning in flight so the official data is uh at best wrong And you might say it was manipulated, i.e., there may be some lying going on and these are the two groups which I think have the most validity with their argument. Well the argument is essentially to boil it down that these buildings were rigged with high explosives to be brought down in a demolition fashion straight down

27:37 And all the buildings showed signs that there were elements within the finally collapsed structure, that this was controlled demolition. He says done by a criminal element which could have been anybody including the building's owner which seems more likely than George Bush. But they keep pointing to WTC7, which has a number of interesting issues with it and you can play the WTC7 thing or not play it at all where he goes on and on with the details and you can play as much as you want which is Truth around WTC7 in this first

28:16 The guy is, what is his name? Gage. Richard Gage who's the head of this architects and engineers for 9-11 truth. On the NIST report some people have said that a failure at one column should not have produced a symmetrical fall like this one What is NIST answer to those assertions World Trade Center 7's collapse, NIST says viewed from the exterior most videos were taken from the north did appear to fall almost uniformly as a single unit. This occurred because the interior failures that took place did not cause the exterior framing to fail until the final stages of the building collapsed

28:57 The interior floor framing and columns collapsed downward and pulled away from the exterior frame. There were clues that internal damage was taking place prior to the downward movement of the exterior frame." Here's another one of NIST's cute answers to an extremely difficult question. You cannot have the interior of a 47-story, 40,000 ton structural steel frame fail without pulling in the side of the building and causing massive warpage on the exterior perimeter structural steel system

29:38 It can't happen. They're talking once again in their computer models, which betrays their own theory that we have 400 structural steel connections that have to fail in their computer models in order to get that interior to fail and then the exterior. We don't even have massive window breakage on the exterior! It can't happen In fact, what does happen is the penthouse drops. The main penthouse a half-a-second prior to the overalls so just half a second prior the penthouse drops then the overall building drops again how fast? Freefall acceleration

30:25 That fast. Seven seconds total structural shattering of the entire structural steel system beam from column almost so this can't happen unless all of those are compromised see when you have a pile driver that's driving the rest to the building down it's doing work In this case, it's falling at free fall meaning all of its energy is transferred to kinetic energy or motion. There is no energy left to do any work such as driving the rest of the building down to the ground that work has to have come from another force. Yes! Thank you. That is correct.

31:13 Of course, everybody both are wrong. Gage is wrong and the 9-11 report is wrong and NIST is wrong we all know obviously that these buildings were bought they're brought down by directed energy weapons from space. WTC7 won't go away! You laugh. Here's another little segment this is a short look tidbit thing that he has, uh... that he mentions. I want to bring this up because it brings up a commentary opportunity but play this little clip most of them and i think there's about eighty thousand in the american institute of architects most every one of them first of all are unfamiliar with the evidence particularly world trade center structural at world trade center building seven

32:03 And this is the third worst structural failure in modern history. And yet architects and engineers are not familiar with it, so when we travel, we get them in our audiences and just like lay people in the audience They end up agreeing with us by an overwhelming majority. I mean like 90 to 100% of them when they see this building coming down which, by the way they can see also on our website AE911truth.org Anyway, the point is that

32:41 You'd think this being the third worst and the other ones I think are like that bridge, those over the straits that just fell apart. The Tacoma-Washington Bridge is one of them but there's a bunch of these and they're all terrible In fact, there's a list here of bad engineering examples. There was like 10. The Cleveland East Ohio gas explosion, the Hyatt Regency Hotel walkway collapsed. It was just a walkway not a building. The Chernobyl thing I think ranks number one or number two. Anyway there is bunch of these it would seem unlikely because this design is not experimental in any way and

33:23 It wasn't even damaged hardly that the collapse of this thing would be the number one thing you'd be studying in architecture school with all the details. Yeah, you kind of not want to have that happen again right if it was just a collapsed yeah this things is out of the blue collapses and so I know WTC 7th thing is still not been explained what I was finding the Hindenburg I think as well another one there are cars around vehicles around the area that only... like the car is perfectly intact but the engine is disintegrated, completely melted away. A car sitting on the street But the seats are fine The seat haven't burned up or anything The door handles have melted away That's what I find more interesting than looking at the rubble which of course is what is happening around that and when you see some other those pictures

34:17 of specific pieces of mainly aluminum completely just melted into goo, into a river of molten nothing. But it's not like jet fuel fell on that or there was a beam...a burning beam that fell on it? Those are the things that I question." Yeah well you can question them. Yeah! I do But I, but ultimately you're right. This is clearly about the 28 pages just to get some noise out there. So they're softening the blow? Yeah yeah. Crazy! It's crazy people who needs to think about 28 pages just as a conspiracy Crazy 28 pages which we've talked about in the last show and I think before that is 20 pages org is now a website for this It's going to happen They're gonna these they're only reason they keep talking about this in the mainstream media keeps being brought up here and there And all this other stuff. This truth or guy have never seen him on television ever

35:13 The, uh... I don't think he was treated with much respect by the... Oh! The gauge guy. No of course not. Please? He's crazy! But they had him on! They had him on. Well John, I came across some very fortuitous information which i'm very very proud to present to you right now and this is in our quest to understand the claim that ninety percent, 97% of climate scientists I'm pretty sure it's climate scientists. Okay, well let's just give them the benefit of the doubt that would be even better we're narrowing it down in their favor 97% of all climate scientists agree with the consensus

36:01 the consensus position that global warming is caused by humans. This would be what... The actual message changes from time to time, sometimes someone will say oh 97% of scientists agree but in general I believe the statement is 97 percent of all clients climate scientists agree with the consensus that global warming is caused by humans AGW anthropogenic global warming And we have, I questioned what is the whole number and where's this research coming from? And since it's being thrown in our faces all the time. I would like to understand other numbers and everybody uses the 97% mean well everybody John Kerry makes it 98 99 he's an idiot that's a global warming going on his watermelon head thats why up the ante by two spots and I found it multiple

36:58 pieces of feedback from our audience, which is just... Of course this is why we call them producers not listeners. ...pointed me to a report which is the report that proves this 97% number and I'm going- And there's a video to go with it so I'm gonna play a little bit of the audio and then I will give you the abstract of the report and it is titled Quantifying The Consensus On Anthropogenic Global Warming In The Scientific Literature And this is where even our president gets this number from. Hi, I'm John Cook lead author of the paper Quantifying the Consensus on Anthropogenic Global Warming in the Scientific Literature Our paper measures a level of agreement that humans are causing global warming in climate papers published between 1991 and 2011 Now there have been several studies measuring the level of agreement on human-caused global warming in the scientific community

37:56 Both papers found that among climate scientists actively publishing climate research, 97% agree that humans are causing global warming. But scientists have to back up their opinions with evidence that survives the scrutiny of experts in their field – in other words peer-reviewed research The first analysis of this type was by Naomi Oreskes, who in 2004 analyzed publications in the Web of Science between 1993 and 2003 matching the search term global climate change. Now this goes on for two minutes but he's already kind of glossed over the fact that is the numbers are really a lie and I'm going to read from this guy's paper from his very own abstract when you'll see what I mean

38:42 abstract of quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature. We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming into peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11,944 climate abstracts from 1991 to 2011 matching the topics Global Climate Change or Global Warming and here it comes John we find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on anthropogenic global warming, 32.6% endorsed AGW 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming

39:30 Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorse the consensus position that humans are causing global warming but what he's omitting to say is that only 32 percent of all scientists even had an opinion on Anthropogenic global warming. So he says 97% of the 30 percent who had an opinion, yes so it's 97 percent of thirty percent which is about 29 total thank you thank you and that that's all you need to know That should be writing this up as a column or something that's a great little tidbit It's...and remember

40:16 they say 32.6% of all 100 endorsed anthropogenic global warming, that's only 32%. And the other 66.4% expressed no position on human or man-made global warming which you can't say means they're against it but certainly doesn't mean they were for it so really only 32.6% percent of All peer-reviewed research says, yes this is manmade. That's a minority! Yeah, a significant minority... And they put all of them to agree and only got 97% of them So they took the 32.6%, and then said hey do you endorse the consensus? Oh yeah I'll raise my hand

41:09 Does that mean more money for me? Mean more money. Yeah, well the people that we should have make sure Ramsey clips that little bit right there is very good. They're on a roll today you got two things they're minor but they're very important. There's one did you see this report which is the stupidest thing I've ever seen any political organization or I'm sorry I should say politicians themselves do in these United States This is the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, the Minority Staff Report. The Chain of Environmental Command... And here's a report from the Senate, the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, the Minority Staff Report So the senate I believe is controlled by Democrats? Right so the minority report would be coming from Tom Cruise. Yeah! Tom Cruise and Tom Penelope Cruz

42:10 And here is this from July 30th, and here is the subtext of this report. It says right on the front page how a club of billionaires and their foundations control the environmental movement in Obama's EPA. Now what they are trying to do is...and of course they set it out quite well by saying the EPA and President Obama have billionaires funding this green movement, oh let's call it Agenda 21 or whatever you want to call it.

42:46 And this is from the Senate. This is a serious document, these statements are remarkable... In reality an elite group of left-wing millionaires and billionaires which this report refers to as The Billionaire's Club who direct and control the far left environmental movement which in turn controls major policy decisions and lobbies on behalf of the US Environmental Protection Agency." Yeah we have by the way these types of people right here in San Francisco Bay Area they're all in Silicon Valley yes And if you take a look at some of the funding, especially Kleiner Perkins when they started funding like crazy. Every green idea they could come up with damn near broke the company but they're all Democrats and many are billionaires. A dominant organization in this movement is Sea Change Foundation, a private California foundation which relies on funding from a foreign company with undisclosed donors

43:42 In turn, sea change funnels tens of millions of dollars to other large but discreet foundations and prominent environmental activists who strive to control both policy and politics. And what this is obviously is they're trying to strike back against the... COKE BROTHERS! But they're idiots You are stupid, stupid, stupid people. Why is this Adam? If you're going to do this you create a report with facts and let the media call it the club of billionaires. You don't go out with it like that! You don't put it on the front page you stupid, stupid, stupid morons! You little tweeny twerpy dick-headed small penis dumb shits! Can you get back to the point?!

44:30 Yeah, they need help. If someone wants to communicate something to the public you don't release a report on July 30th of Thursday in the middle of summer before everyone's about to go where the world is melting down with all kinds of crap going on and then say oh it's a club of billionaires so you can be ridiculed while... So your assuming that they wanted this to go out the right way? No, this is what they think is the right way. Are you assuming that they think this is the right way or it's just the opposite true? I'm assuming they believe this is the right way to communicate this and I think they're stupid! Well you've made that point... Yeah but the way you do it is like-

45:13 You've got if you want the public to get behind you, you need to help people visualize who it is. You're talking about you need to put in some foundation and foreign stuff You've got to put a name on it even though no one could pick out the Koch brothers from a crowd Everybody knows about them It's your thing in the public relations agencies that are working on the side of should be burned at the stake Don't you think there may be some? Don't you think that the complexity of public relations in this day and age, for example they're all owned by two companies. Yeah, with the exception of a few independents but the big boys that work out at Washington DC I can assure you almost any one of them is working for WPP and Omnicon or whatever yeah um yeah that's the two. And so they all work within this group and there they tend to be left-wing oriented in general... You saying they sabotaged it?

46:08 Yeah! I hadn't thought of it that way. Well, it doesn't matter then look...I'm a disc jockey okay? You're a columnist even we can see that this is stupid the how could how can our representatives in uh in the government Is there no one who says uh oh this may not be such a good idea boss Is there no one who sees that? Nah, you're right. No, not at all I'm surprised you got so worked up about it to be honest about it Um...worked up is just- the stupidity is beyond me It's beyond me! No its not You've seen it before This is not a shock to you, your just feigning Its a good report thats the problem They did the work Yeah they did the work All the names in here, all the companies, all the foundations Name some companies Uh okay

46:57 Hold on a second. It's all marked up if you want it, but so yeah we have the... So it's mainly this SeaChange Foundation Yeah, if you go to seachange.org is like a page that can't go any further. I find that little annoying Klein Limited overseas company contributing tens of millions to organizations dedicated to abolishing the use of affordable fossil fuels through a US private foundation. The problem is you can't read, these are 501c3s and 4's and you can't find out who... You can follow a paper trail back but they've done some of that work to find out what foreign organizations are contributing. I'll look at it later It's 99 pages it's pretty

47:44 It's a pretty in-depth report. But here are some names, okay? Here is the 6 billion from David and Lucille Packard Foundation. There you go! The Silicon Valley 5.6 billion dollars from Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation. Oh! Silicon Valley 117 million dollars from the Heinz Family Foundation. Kerry John Kerry 51 million from the Marisla Foundation I don't know what that is. I never heard of it. 366 million dollars from the Park Foundation Yeah 800 million from the Rockefeller Brothers, 46 million from the Smith Family Foundation. That's Eric and Wendy. 124 million from the C-Change Foundation My favorite has got to be 2 billion from The Walton Family Foundation And then here is your other Silicon Valleyers $8 billion dollars from William & Flora Hewlett foundation

48:37 part of the Hewlett Packard cabal. Yeah, that sounds about right. Well I mean there's a vested interest here too if they could get semiconductors to be this source of energy then screw the whole petroleum business So the money goes into Climate Works Foundation The Energy Foundation and here is one that is disturbing The Pew Charitable Trust These are the guys that do the research. Right, so they came out with the reports that can screw with you? Yeah and of course it's Pew! I mean how can you ever question them?! Well for the same way i question NPR and PBS American Lung Association benefits Blue Green Alliance Foundation Center for American Progress of course... Hey, I question NPR and PBS too

49:23 Well, why is it always me? No I mean like Pew. You know people will say to you... No! You said YOU question them as though I do. Oh no i'm sorry. No, I did not mean of course you- Of course! You're with ME on this. No, ummm..I did NOT mean for it come out that way. Okay, just saying. Ummm.... It was weird. Odd perhaps. Weird unlikely. Anyway go on. So umm... Okay, you got a little dick okay well The beat goes on that's all I can tell you Yeah, the beat goes on well you're getting it sunny and share what you were getting that stuff. I was gettin a I wasn't paying more attention to some of the cool stuff on the YouTube's and I got a ham radio report here You might want to listen to oh yeah always Ham Radio are you kidding me? I'm all in Okay, this is a Henry amplifier

50:17 This used to be a, I believe Henry 2k classic. What is this John? What are you doing to me? 80 through 10 meters but it has been modified with a pair of 8877s Are you trying to mock me? Is this your idea of humor? You know, uh... Some guy looking at tubes. This is a tube and it gets nice and hot on the 80 meter band where all the racist right wing A-holes hang out on 80 meters yes Is that a fact? Well it's a generalization If you really want to hear some crazy crap go to 14.313

51:02 14 I'm writing it down. That's the 20 meter band you can't have a radio for that So you don't need to write anyway, you know you don't have you never 20 meter band? I have a receiver Okay fourteen dot three one three megahertz USB all right onward yeah, thanks. I'm not going to play any more of that report Unfair. Missed the point where he gets to the transformer, it's pretty interesting. Right I got a lot of feedback from people on the US media policies now we're talking about what CNN is showing on

51:40 on the death and destruction, and how you get fined if you show a nipple. I got some interesting observations one is hey we weren't allowed to see even in evidence one speck of blood from Newtown... We still have not seen the video of the Sarnoff brothers dropping a backpack into a trash can which killed people and exploded and maimed others because it would be too horrific for us to see However, it's okay. I think if you're brown and you live in the sand...I guess it's okay for us to watch then we can see your dead children because yeah this is in the Middle East! It's not here. Kiss a breast? Rating X. Hack the tit off? Rating R Yeah that- I think this is a good point A number of people have brought this up And uh that we have a situation where

51:02 14 I'm writing it down. That's the 20 meter band you can't have a radio for that So you don't need to write anyway, you know you don't have you never 20 meter band? I have a receiver Okay fourteen dot three one three megahertz USB all right onward yeah, thanks. I'm not going to play any more of that report Unfair. Missed the point where he gets to the transformer, it's pretty interesting. Right I got a lot of feedback from people on the US media policies now we're talking about what CNN is showing on

51:40 on the death and destruction, and how you get fined if you show a nipple. I got some interesting observations one is hey we weren't allowed to see even in evidence one speck of blood from Newtown... We still have not seen the video of the Sarnoff brothers dropping a backpack into a trash can which killed people and exploded and maimed others because it would be too horrific for us to see However, it's okay. I think if you're brown and you live in the sand...I guess it's okay for us to watch then we can see your dead children because yeah this is in the Middle East! It's not here. Kiss a breast? Rating X. Hack the tit off? Rating R Yeah that- I think this is a good point A number of people have brought this up And uh that we have a situation where

52:34 And the public doesn't seem to notice seems to me that the Sarnav brothers video nobody's except us I think has ever talked about it, but the missing video is that everybody somebody has seen but nobody that we've did well There is a recreate thing with 60 minutes who can see it as a recreation Once you explain it again. I'm sure there's newcomers of this show they don't know this yes This is the The smoking gun if you will of the Sarnath brothers putting the actual backpack with the super explosive rice cooker, pressure cooker into the trash can and even the... let me see what is it? Was it the governor? Yeah. The governor of Massachusetts has not seen this now I should have been a little more prepared for this but I think I can probably find the clip where he says he has not even seen it

53:28 And we keep getting promised that it'll show up in court or it's going to be seen, but it's really so horrific that they've only done recreations of it. What would I have titled that? Governor or wait, sorry enough brothers are bomb try bomb Yeah bomb that won't return too many search results will it bomb Video let's say well you never know bomb video bomb video boss of bombing should cameras be anywhere everywhere That could be it. I'm looking specifically for... You know, I think there is a video but it shows the Sarnoff brothers putting the bomb in and then an FBI guy adjusting it to it. The one I want is of the governor saying, you know,

54:14 I haven't even seen it. Yeah, we hear there's a video they say they tell me there's one exactly governor video But we I haven't seen it yet he hasn't seen it ever What is that? What's the governor's name of Massachusetts now you're just I think if you're killing too much time on this let's go one okay um but anyway like the new town we weren't even allowed to hear the 911 tapes Which turned out to be pretty mild in retrospect. We played them! Yes, we played them... A few outlets that played the 9-1-1 tapes and they were so bland Yeah one woman was shocked. Oh we can't play it because it's gonna be terrible Too shocking Nobody would play them and you'd play em' It's yes too shocking if nothing was going on That was terrible yeah So for some reason

55:07 We, so the FBI this is 60 minutes of this thing. FBI scanned 13000 videos 120 thousand photos and apparently they did find the magical money shot but however we still have just not been allowed to see that and the most telling part is that the governor Massachusetts says yeah no I haven't seen it I'm told its there I know was there I mean I trust them of course they got him And so that is too rough for us to handle because it would shock us. Yet... Like those 911 tapes? Yeah, yet CNN keeps repeating this footage where the journalist is killed and you see blood and people bleeding and yelling and screaming and crying and they just repeat that over and over again. That can only be a form of well

56:00 Well, it's a violation of human rights. You are being terrorized." Anyway... Another little section of the news that is not getting reported much at least by the mainstream and it's getting reported overseas and I'm the only one actually on this show that wants to keep up with it a little bit since there such a disaster which is Libya And I mean this country is about to... I'm sorry, did you just say you're the only one on this show who keeps up on that? Yeah. You don't- do you let me do it? Oh, do you ever look at the show notes? Do you ever see any of the articles that I collect? It's alright, it's alright. No no! You're right, I never do anything on Libya.

55:07 We, so the FBI this is 60 minutes of this thing. FBI scanned 13000 videos 120 thousand photos and apparently they did find the magical money shot but however we still have just not been allowed to see that and the most telling part is that the governor Massachusetts says yeah no I haven't seen it I'm told its there I know was there I mean I trust them of course they got him And so that is too rough for us to handle because it would shock us. Yet... Like those 911 tapes? Yeah, yet CNN keeps repeating this footage where the journalist is killed and you see blood and people bleeding and yelling and screaming and crying and they just repeat that over and over again. That can only be a form of well

56:00 Well, it's a violation of human rights. You are being terrorized." Anyway... Another little section of the news that is not getting reported much at least by the mainstream and it's getting reported overseas and I'm the only one actually on this show that wants to keep up with it a little bit since there such a disaster which is Libya And I mean this country is about to... I'm sorry, did you just say you're the only one on this show who keeps up on that? Yeah. You don't- do you let me do it? Oh, do you ever look at the show notes? Do you ever see any of the articles that I collect? It's alright, it's alright. No no! You're right, I never do anything on Libya.

56:46 But, okay. Anyway this is the only show you're gonna hear anything about Libya and it will all be in the show notes By the way somebody called me out for not complimenting the show notes enough Yes! No instead... That was YOU wasn't it? Instead you tell me I don't care about Libya It's like, he's got a number of I know these are anonymous accounts and they write me scathing notes. You do not compliment Adam for his show notes! I'm constantly saying how great the show notes are. Crackpot at Yahoo dot com says you don't compliment Adam on the show notes enough.

57:34 All right, what do you want to do here? Which one are you going to play? I just want to keep people up on this. So let's play the two clips. I got one from Russia Today and then a follow-up clip from France 24 where there are two separate reports. You know, this is the war that...this is one of our escapades to get rid of Gaddafi because he was going to start his own reserve currency which is the basis of our thinking. The gold dinar. The gold dinar and so we wiped it out and then would just say screw it! We don't care because we're outta here. But deliver us from evil Elsewhere, the UK has evacuated its citizens from Libya and closed its embassy in the capital Tripoli as violence rages between different militias. Several countries including Russia and the United States have already shipped their workers out. Thousands of foreigners are fleeing Libya many of them Egyptians more than 200 people have been killed fighting in the last two weeks

58:31 It's it's it's getting really bad actually listen to this next report from French 24, okay? I was just grabbing something France man cut out now in Libya heavy fighting continues to send thousands fleeing to neighboring countries our Correspondents witnessed high running tensions on the Tunisian border they were able to do produce the following report even after they were detained for five hours. Marine Kazalis, Hamdi Tlili and Siobhan Silk have more Confusion and panic at the Rajdhir border crossing on Friday as a crowd tried to force its way out of Libya into Tunisia. Among them were Libyan nationals but most were foreign workers, especially Egyptian. As frustration boiled over gunshots sounded out from the Libyan side of the border, Tunisian security forces responded with warning shots of their own

59:27 Armed with batons or guns, Tunisian soldiers police and some civilians worked to push the crowd back. Tensions had been building at the border since the day before. Tunisia is desperate to avoid a repeat of this situation during the Libyan civil war 2011 when tens of thousands of Libyan refugees streamed into the country The violence that's gripping Libya and especially the city of Tripoli is sending both Libyans and migrant workers fleeing. On Friday evening, the Tunisian government called on all Tunisian nationals in Libya who number between 50-80 thousand to leave the country as soon as possible At the same time, the foreign ministry warned it may be forced to close the border entirely This report is very important for a number reasons One, It reminds me that we need more

1:00:17 Military like gun sounds in the background. Yes, I think they're overdoing it You need to have a little ak-47 action to remind people that you are reporting on on a war But also it's important for us to look back to 2011 and I was living in Los Angeles at the time This was a one-two punch of United Nations resolutions. The 1973 resolution was the one in particular that we, you know... because I never do anything on Libya on this show. No! You used to! we completely extracted the entire executive order. And I recall that it had a whole bunch of crap in there and at the end of the executive, or the resolution it essentially said but in the case of anything else, we reserved the right to do whatever we want to do which is exactly what we did. We went in, we shot hellfire missiles, we blew everybody up, we got this guy Qaddafi, where'd we get him? In a

1:01:13 in a like a sewer. He's in the sewer and then here, let me remind you of Hillary Clinton when she was delivered this great news now remember that everybody was hanging out with Gaddafi in the tent. Ed Busch Blair Trump had him over here. Trump had him with the tent in his backyard Clint everyone was hanging out with them She hears about the news and here we go Yes We came...we saw...He died Yeah, fuck it. We got him here is what President Obama said back in the day I have these clips I keep this stuff I can't decide there's not

1:01:49 These people are not to be trusted. No, of course there is no question that Libya and the world would be better off with Gaddafi out-of-power How's that working? How's that idea working out? I along with many other world leaders Yeah like Hillary have embraced that goal yeah And will actively pursue it through non military means Oh but broadening our military mission to include regime change and killing him a mistake oh Yes, well look how it is now President Obama. It's a fricking mess! It's so bad you are taking people out of the... The Germans are taking their people out of the embassy Yeah no everyone is leaving yeah the place is melting down if the goal was to rubbleize Well then they didn't yeah well then then it was good

1:02:38 Rubilize it, start over. A lot of good jobs for American contractors when things calm down. Rebuild, rebuild, that's a lot of money. Rubilize the place! That is the entire strategy in a nutshell. The strategy? Rubilize the place. Yeah, rubilize it. Well good work Fine, fine. Well it's not done yet but they're getting there Anyway John I'd like to thank you very much for your courage and say in the morning to you John C Dvorak Are you going to...you're actually saying um in the morning to me? I am saying uh...

1:03:26 Is there any other languages you can say that in? Are you ready yet, do you have the spreadsheet open can you go I know everything's ready to go. I was just wondering okay So I want to say in the morning you Adam curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there, and yeah here by the way Yes, and in the morning to everyone in these shot room no agenda stream calm we have a new URL for the stream which if you have an app or something, you might want to incorporate that. Listen dot no agenda stream dot com now that takes you directly to the uh, to the stream and it's one stream fits all one size eats all your, you get whatever you need in necessary listen dot no agenda stream.com in morning to our artists. Thank you very much 20 watt bulb for coming in with a great piece of art for episode six three niner

1:04:23 We're on show 640. Yeah, I want to thank a few producers executive producer It came in very strong because we did have a poor showing in the morning and then everyone kind of came in later Which was good Jim Lavin Louisville Texas 750 bucks wanted to say that the mac and cheese karma worked for him Oh nice after receiving some on show 9 590 okay A major tech publisher reached out to me and offered me a book deal six months later, and after several grueling edits it'll be out on shelves at the end of August. I'm using some of the money from my advance to finish my knighthood." Oh nice! Please knight me Sir Otaku Of The Wooden Mash Paddle

1:05:07 We don't ask questions. If you're ever in the DFW area, let me know and I'll bring you some homebrew and barbecue. Please send me some more mac-and-cheese karma since i'm working on a second book deal! John, you're my idol. Oh wait do that with your echo man John you're my idol And hopefully in the near future my name might be as well known as yours when it comes to tech books Well, do you have to have an instant bestseller then Jim Lavin KF5 SVR and Louisville Texas Jim. We'll catch you on three three Charlie then hopefully Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand

1:05:52 You've got karma you go Jim. Thank you so much now, you did something new John I saw this in the in the newsletter you came out with the big beast and the little beast then Yeah, the big Beast and Little Beast explain mark of the Beast is the key Yeah And so we have sir Jarrett We have some people that came with six hundred sixty-six dollars if one got carried away at 66 cents a certain Gerald Gionnay from Parts Unknown it seems. Oh no, he's in Canada, 666.66. Thanks for all the hard work and time spent on producing the best podcast in the universe. It only gets better with this donation! I will be claiming the baronetcy of southwestern Ontario accounting under separate massage

1:06:41 All I ask is a simple noodle boy and karma to the no agenda community now a simple noodle boy. I think we only have one noodle Boy, that's the noodle boy clip There's no simple noodle boy But I'll tell you what we can do let's give him a karma for the know agenda community that he wishes upon us And then do a noodle boy Sometime during the show when it was appropriate He wants to hear the noodle boy clip. I'm sure well. I have it here if you want to hear We can play right in the whole thing now well Like I described earlier, there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society. You either work for someone else or you work for yourself and most people work for someone else in the way that they aren't free

1:07:23 You don't really get to decide your work. For example, I work at Noodles a restaurant and basically it's a dictatorship there We're told exactly what we're going to cook how are we gonna cook it? What time are you gonna get there and basically if they don't like what they're doing They try to tell us what to do If we don't listen they get rid of us And so we aren't able to actually cooperate in a way that we make decisions together I tried to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles So as a source of power to start with. And then I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control

1:08:05 of the place where they work. Would your plan, your vision for Noodles? Sure. Would it include the owner? What capacity would he be granted? If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that he had We would definitely cooperate with him. We'd have to abdicate his position as being an owner and controller of us, and he would have to recognize that we run this together And basically if he doesn't want to cooperate with us He's against it You've got karma I'm a rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it

1:08:44 You know, I forgot you know we haven't played the noodle boy clip for a while and every time I hear it It always sounds like it's slightly different clip It's fascinating. But I like where he says if eat this the owner of noodles doesn't want to be with us He's against us It's my favorite part at the end there. Yeah, that's one of them but my favorite part is the cooperate and why they're being told what to do is bad. He says we have to show up on time! Yeah he said we have to show up on time which was all about. What a dictator! Unbelievable I don't know that clip is disturbing yeah

1:09:19 Anonymous comes in from somewhere. It looks like he's in the army 666 no names, please just a little help from Distilled distiller distiller this some karma and a boom shaka laka would be nice. Oh, this is still a yeah Okay, it's still a the most requested jingle of the day bingo boom shakalaka you've got Karma very much. This still is that undercover one? He who was undercover in the Dutch language Matthew Stevens in Fort Worth, Texas 666 the big beast and he'll be a dumb by the way they want contributing six six six becomes a double producer there I was gonna say does this go for some 66 66 errs as well how does this work no No just these guys are the triple the five-sixth is then the true big mark of The Big

1:10:10 Beast. Yes, to mark of the Big Beast and what will their double credit say? What will that be just you know executive producer and then executive producer for show 666 I got it kind of kind of kind of person who've done this before we do this once a year big which is a bit special deal got it so Matthew Stevens And he will be knighted sir gadget virtuoso today yeah nightmares or gadget virtual So keep up the great reporting on the best podcast in the universe Sir Andrew Largeman in Taipei City, 34567 one of my favorites. ITM is sir Andrew Largeman from Taiwan aka Gitmo Nation Bubble Tea. Bubble tea if I'm not mistaken is tea that's got these little

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1:11:45 Come on up kids by Michelle Obama. Oh I don't know if you yeah, yeah Yeah, but what if I had both of them at my beck and call? I believe in science Yes here's a little one you come on up You've got karma Nailed it I always thought that Terry Goo was Malaysian Chinese and he corrects me saying he's Taiwanese. And, uh...I actually got the clip of that explosion. Did you see that video? Yeah! Insane! How does it work?! There were cars on the roof!

1:12:33 It's a nasty explosion. And but the entire street just ripped open like it was, you know like a big long stream of firecrackers went... There must have been a leak must have been going on for awhile and accumulating with the right oxygen ratio and its thing just... It's a real day wrecker! Sir Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch, California 333 33 I did an accounting this donation makes me once twice three times a night Did you ever sort out if a baronet was a little knight? No the Baronette is a little Baron So the Barron superior we got into a beef about that and I was convinced for some reason. I don't know why I was thinking that The Baron it wasn't next step but isn't the least just below Baron mm-hmm

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1:22:07 Someone said I should put the marching guys under it. I you know, I liked it! I liked it a lot! I think-I think that really adds something to it well Maybe it should be part of-well let's run it as a beta Alpha or Beta? Is it private beta It's a beta. It's a real beta, and we'll do it for a few weeks and see what we think." Okay let's see what WE think... like if we have anything to say. See what the feedback is! Exactly I came across um a very interesting little report on our national treasure the NPR which i'd like to play this report in its entirety because not only is it a big WTF moment when you hear this but the way it's voiced

1:23:12 It's almost like this is a covert report. You won't believe what you and this isn't PR, you know These are this is what the elites of the world listen to Yeah, they do and if you're sick of it, you let me know but and this is about well You'll hear what it's about And I it was it was just mind-boggling To me that this is reported this way when you hear the people who have the facts in this case And the whole piece was just very, very disturbing. Some might call it weird." For months now U.S officials have said that leaks from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden changed the way terrorists communicate

1:23:52 But they've stopped short of providing details. Now a technology company in Cambridge, Massachusetts says it's found tangible evidence that terrorist groups are using sophisticated encryption programs." And here is the Unitempo Raston report. Okay now just imagine now we have terrorists who were using Skype what was that other video program that no one had ever heard of? Remember when the first list came out? I can't remember. It was just a little chat or something. No one had ever heard of it. Yeah, it was weird. So what odd perhaps dammit. The CEO of big data company recorded future is OK right there the CEO of Big Data Company hold on a second recorded futures hold on a second let me just grab this I want to be known as a big data company

1:24:54 Can we just be known as the big data company no agenda? Yeah, I mean this what determines if you're a big data company other than your own marketing Massachusetts says it's found tangible evidence that terrorist groups are using sophisticated encryption programs in Paris Dina Temple Reston reports here comes the CEO of Big Data Company recorded future is Amanda name Christopher Albert. He had heard the Obama administration say that terrorists had changed the way they behave because of the Snowden leaks he wanted to see if it was really true yes I wanted to get some airtime so we dove into that sort of going into forums and product platform releases and the like

1:25:39 They were banging into forums and product platform releases and the like. Company trolled the internet for Al Qaeda mentions of Snowden. They trolled the Internet for al-Qaeda mentions of Snowden Okay, this is reporting they trolled the internet hey let's troll it It downloaded versions about Al Qaeda's encryption software And it discovered signs that Al-Qaeda had changed. Oh no, they changed! Big change... Specifically it upgraded its encryption systems Upgraded to 2.0 For years Al Qaeda had used an encryption program written by its own coders

1:26:18 We don't want that. The Al-Qaeda's own coders? No, that can't be any good! Have you seen these dudes they shoot in the air with their AK47s?! It can't be any good at encryption! The code... the coders... They called it Mujahideen Secrets. Mujahideen secrets! Am I supposed to believe this report?? I don't know. It's Mujahideen secrets. And most Al-Qaeda affiliates used it to scramble their communication. I'm going to scramble my communication, stand by for more Mujahideen secrets! Since its introduction in 2007 there had been some minor updates then in late 2013 after the Snowden leaks the program got a major overhaul. It's like the iPhone 6

1:27:11 Three different groups with links to Al Qaeda introduced three new encryption products. It was like jumping from Windows 2.0 to Windows XP. I didn't know she was a tech expert. Hold on a second, was there ever a Windows 2.0? I think it was the Windows 3.0 or Windows NT... No, there was a Windows 2.0 But it was- The big jump was Windows 95 Right Not Windows 2.0 to Windows XP and excuse me Microsoft Trying to make a point Adam you're just not getting It's like going from Mavericks to Yosemite

1:27:48 Recorded future is a man named Christopher all Berg. Oh fuck hold on I'm sorry, I went back way too far my mistake Yeah, I'm sorry used it to scramble their communications and eggs since its introduction in 2007 there had been some minor updates then in late 2013 After the Snowden leaks program got a major overhaul overall Three different groups with links to Al-Qaeda introduced three new encryption products. It was like jumping from Windows 2.0 to Windows XP. Ahlberg says that wasn't a coincidence. Three major product releases coming out of three different organizations on the al Qaeda and associated organizations fairly quickly after the Snowden disclosures. Really?

1:28:36 Hey, did you get a copy? Were you on the beta tester John by any chance? Did you get a beta? You know I'm now irked about this because i didn't get a copy. Elberg believed this amounted to good circumstantial evidence that Snowden had had an impact but he wanted to see how much so we called in a cyber expert. Cyber expert My name is Mario Vuxen and I'm the CEO and founder of Reversing Labs. Yes, I am also Charmin. Reversing Labs is a cyber analysis company. How can you not make fun of this stupid woman?

1:29:13 It's a hyper analysis company. And Voxon took the new Al-Qaeda encryption program apart to see what it was made of... Hold on, can I have a screwdriver? I'm trying to take it apart to see what it's made of! This is for a company that professes to practice journalism The way this is being reported on is not acceptable It is 2014, we- there are people who un- you don't have to go to cyber access! It is unacceptable the way your- they took it apart in your garage. No this is NPR's good We put up on the jacks, we looked underneath...we took the oil pan off

1:29:52 As a general matter, he says encryption is fairly straightforward. So simple! So multiple mathematical algorithms have been developed to scramble this content into sort of random set of letters and numbers... Oh really? I think he's not German it's Russian This random set of numbers is just like a code so that only the target receiver would be able Wait a minute, what do you mean target receiver? Target or Receiver? Read it. In other words someone might type a message in Arabic then the encryption program turns it into random numbers and letters. Gobbly gook! That is not... Have you ever seen encryption? It does not turn it into random words and letters. It turns it into a block of characters Could be anything there's lots of ways to doing that You could use steganography which is a photograph. You could use a simple replacement cipher

1:30:46 There's lots of ways to do it. She is generalizing. On the other side can unscramble the message with a key. We have now revealed the secret way Al Qaeda uses encryption, with a key! Voxun said that the new version of Mujahideen secrets is much better The old program was built on code that Al-Qaeda created for itself. Stupid, stupid Al Qaeda! The new version incorporates more sophisticated open source code which means it's probably harder to break Oh please alright I gotta shoot myself now this is just unbelievable

1:31:24 The Mujahideen secret based on open source code which means it's harder to break. This is not the work of some- Yeah, that's what she said! She's crazy!! It's exactly what she said! It's harder to break... you know listen to her when she says here. ...was built on code that Al Qaeda created for itself. The new version incorporates more sophisticated open source code which means it's probably harder to break. Because open source? This is not the work of somebody who has learned programming yesterday and is now trying to do their first, you know, Hello World application. Hello World... It's not some stupid script-kitty who's just doing a Hello World application! This is like they've got a key! Ahmed swallow the key?! I cannot imagine that this being developed in some cave in Afghanistan Not in a fucking cave in Afghanistan No man this is some real Silicon Valley shit

1:32:22 Where did you get this clip again? NPR. This is NPR, your national treasure. Alberg says wherever it was developed the complexity and timing of the software upgrade is important Okay so this is not going to be used in Congress somewhere some douche knuckle's gonna get up and say Well, we know that the Mujahideen's secret encryption code... No no no. It's Mike Rogers! It's got Mike Rogers written all over it. It's not just some douche knuckle. Mike Douche Knuckle Rogers Yeah, Mike Rogers will come up with this one. Shakin' a piece of paper! But the metaphors... He'll be... because he of course invented the Jihadi Disneyland. So it'd be like we've got Mujahideen secrets being developed by coders in the Jihadi Disneyland that is going from Windows 2.0 to XP thanks to Snowden. It's all Snowden's fault

1:33:22 I think they're actually bringing Bruce Schneier at the end to legitimize this otherwise incredibly weak and pathetic and incomprehensible, just unjustifiable shoddy journalistic report. Well let's face reality with this report. This report is planted for the sole purpose of making it look as though something's changed when the NSA can crack whatever this code is. Mujahideen secrets! It may be their code, its open source code its hard to crack yeah you see that Kaiser Alexander has filed for... This guy's making a million dollars a month but he's filed for nine patents with his new company He's filed for nine patents? Yes What was his background? Star Trek groupie

1:34:18 Well, besides that... Keith Alexander. Is he an inventor? Alexander insists cybersecurity technology he's inventing now is distinct enough from his work at the NSA that he can file for new patents and reap all the benefits. He has a little crash. He's stealing this stuff from the government. We probably developed these things while I was working there but what's his... Okay, he's 62. Of course he did. Went to West Point Boston University US Army Command Naval postgraduate school. You know what this is? I mean, you know what this is don't you this is very easy This is his buyout. This is his way out. This is what he gets and no one's right Greenwald getting $250,000 over at the Freedom of the Press Foundation Yeah to shut up shut up if I shut up go away Kaiser There's a lot of money just shut up and stay shut up But I find his

1:35:13 By the way, the million dollar figure has apparently dropped to about 600 thousand. I don't believe any of it by that there's no there's no fact There's no proof of these numbers as just a big and they've tried to do for your requests and the NSA and and Kaiser Alexander all refuse To disclose anything he's the cyber King why is he got a joint chiefs-of-staff? identification badge when he was in the You see, he's not in the joint chiefs. That gets you into the executive washroom I believe. Oh okay that could be... Yeah These medals and ribbons on these guys are just too gratuitous! I got a note about your story of Buzzkill Jr.'s phone drain when the president was in town? Yeah? Buzzkill jr., I think that's who it was, was the proud victim of the unconstitutional use of an IMSI catcher better known as a stingray

1:36:13 Oh right, that thing. The secret service or whoever was working with them local or state police departments was gathering IMSI ESN and IMEI data of every user's phone in the effective range of the device They were probably also tied into the telco databases so that they could see who owned every single phone One of the first things the device does is force the phone into full power mode in order to gather the best signal from them Everyone in the office should contact the EFF, especially Chris Shigoyan. He and a former federal judge by the name of Brian Owsley are going to legislatures all over the country and notifying them of law enforcement's use of these devices without warrants Just like with GPS use these devices should need probable cause warrants The Supreme Court needs to rule on these things They conduct a search within the private spaces of citizens

1:37:01 Remember the thermal imaging devices that got restricted? Same thing. This is from a JSOC Dave, he's one of our true military industrial complex insiders he knows all about this. That sounds right to me yeah and here's it would go like this hey JC I've got this guy talked about you should talk to EFF about your thing being powered up like that because they're spying on ya so contact the EFF And what will he say Yeah, right. I'm a rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then i'll do it You tell me he's not gonna be- He's not going to make a problem? He's not gonna make waves? Probably not And then this other just report Most of the millennials are- Have given up

1:37:45 Yeah, this is unfortunately true. Yes it's a fact they just decided to become hipsters They figure their own subculture will take care of itself when it gets old enough That's I don't know what else to tell you apparently the like the judges and we have names here James Zagel FISA court member since 2008 and Looking for the other name here couple of these judge Wright Judge Roger Vinson These are all FISA Court Judges have been purchasing stock in Verizon. And they do this at opportune moments when they come out with certain rulings and or approvals... You know, it's funny I was doing the Horowitz show, I came into a bunch of inside trading going on at AT&T. So these guys are buying up their own stock too there's something up with the telecoms would make total sense but what well first of all the fact that there's insider training all these everyone who's on the inside is doing it

1:38:49 This is just based on what news will come out regarding... Well, I think this probably more has to do with the USA Freedom Act of 2014 which will compensate Each telco for every single request that is now codified hasn't been passed yet But I'll say that there's been tens of thousands of requests. Yeah, there's money So this is just gonna be free money for these guys yeah That would again to shut up it says hush money that would seem like a pretty good deal It has to be pretty substantial Less the you know the stock you wouldn't be buying the stock for some nickel and dime stuff. No no you got a good stock

1:39:29 Well, there was one of the talk show guys who's going on and on about the border issue thing going on with the southern states. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Wackenhut? It sounds like a porn video company. You ever heard of Wackenhut? I thought I had, but if it's correctional facilities no. No they used to be real estate investment trust that became what they started buying in correctional facilities. They're getting all this money from the government to house these kids and the whole thing is just as you know a scam to keep

1:40:09 private prisons filled to capacity. Do you have a report on this? No, I got nothing. A lot of people say, oh you haven't been talking about the border issue! Not much to talk about. There isn't. And I even question how bad it really is. It seems so opportune that all of a sudden this crisis erupted when President Obama threatened to sign his own immigration bill into law with his pen and his phone. But I'm not even sure it's a big crisis or that it's changed any Since you're in Texas, you're down by the border. Yeah I don't say damn near in Mexico Andele It's uh...I-I don't understand to me it's all propaganda and we really don't see propaganda I think we've come to that conclusion Now of course we had the RDI report come out which was very disappointing to me but I thought that this was going to be some you know everyone's oh In fact that's exactly what sound like

1:41:08 And RDI of course stands for the Rendition Detention and Interrogation Network. And the Inspector General needed to... Also, The Torture Report Well that's really what it was, The Torture Report but what we found out in the... well I really don't have anything There is an unclassified version which is one page! This is what the citizens get Summary of report, agency personnel improperly accessed Senate Select Committee on Intelligence staff files that's SSCI and records on the CIA operated and maintained rendition detention an interrogation network also known as RDI net. Potential violations include the wiretap act I'd look these up for you computer fraud and abuse act

1:41:58 And here it is, five agency employees two attorneys and three information technology IT staff members named Ben improperly accessed or caused access to the SSCI majority staff shared drives on the RDI net. So that is the violation And then there's agency crimes report. The agency filed a crimes report with the Department of Justice as required by Executive Order 12333, this is the big one that allows the agencies to actually spy on you and subjugates all these other... Yeah, no it's just great crap. We've broken it down into pieces. Let them do whatever they want essentially. However, the factual basis for the referral was not supported lack of candor

1:42:44 And this is, this really pissed me off. It's like there's just no respect whatsoever So who are we gonna blame? If you had to blame somebody who would you blame for the torture? No if it for spying for these the clear violation of accessing improperly accessing drives Who are you going to accuse Oh, but you have to accuse what's-his-name they hit it a little. No no no yeah Is that Brennan or the other guy? Dude named Ben! Dude named Ben The three IT staff members demonstrated a lack of candor about their activities Yeah dude name been dude named ben so of course is the IT guys who are gonna get burned on this one There'll be some IT guy fired here is

1:43:35 Well, so here of course is the President's remark yesterday which a lot of people really were surprised by his word usage. With respect to the larger point of the RDI report itself even before I came into office I was very clear that in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 we did some things that were wrong We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. Okay so we tortured some folks and I think on the show we have stumbled over... we've drawn attention to his use of the word folks before from this very same news conference he referred to folks a couple other times i'm trying to figure out if we tortured some folks

1:44:25 Who were these folks? Let's see, what other folks did we talk about during the same news conference. President like that ceasefire you've called for diplomatic solutions not only in Israel and Gaza but also in Ukraine and Iraq to very little effect so far as United States of America lost its influence in the world have you used fewer yeah look this is a common theme that folks bring up. Folks as reporters maybe? Oh, maybe they're tortured... Well if you go to these press conferences you're genuinely torturing the reporters there's no doubt about it There is another folks that he uh.. Another example I gotta play a torture clip this is an example of him torturing

1:45:07 play the Obama stammer. This is what he does constantly. This is indeed torturing reporters. I will, hold on guys come on there's just... Who else is a folk? A student loan bill that would help Folks who have students. Yeah, we tortured student was they stood? They do torture students with these ridiculous student loans Students when they graduate their deeply in debt that's torture So if this wasn't bad enough for him to say we tortured some folks Which is where the most soundbite stopped if you even saw or heard it at all I think he dug the hole much deeper after that We did a whole lot of things that were right But we tortured some folks

1:45:52 We did some things that were contrary to our values. Yeah? I understand why it happened... This is not okay! You, as a president, as the commander-in-chief you cannot say oh i understand why it happened because what he's about to say now is setting the LA law enforcement agencies every single civil servant up for doing things wrong because the president ultimately will understand why I think it's important.

1:46:32 uh... when we look back to recall how afraid people were so if we're afraid then we can torture people after the twin towers fell and the pentagon had been hit and plane in pennsylvania had fallen and people didn't know that plane in pennsylvania has fallen this is a new one for me I've heard shot down, I've heard crashed by terrorists just fell. And you know if the plane falls you can torture folks not knowing whether more attacks were imminent And there was enormous pressure. Pressure? Oh, we're under so much pressure! Time to torture some folks on our law enforcement and our national security teams... Oh and it's not just national security, law enforcement can torture folks if they're under pressure To try to deal with this I can't deal with it. It is important for us not

1:47:22 feel too sanctimonious. Sanctimonious? I like that word, it's one of my favorites! I don't use it enough myself. Definition... He is sanctimonious. Definition of sanctimonious making a show of being morally superior to other people so we should not pretend to be better than Al-Qaeda I guess or folks who we tortured Is that what I'm understanding John Is that essentially what he's saying? Well, go back. I gotta put it back in context because i'm not sure that's what he means. Us...not...hold on let me just move back a couple more seconds here uh this is very disturbing It-it-i-it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks have Okay

1:48:11 The job was so tough that they had to torture people, but we should not make a show of being morally superior because... Wait a minute. This is what his whole little spiel is about when he said at the beginning He says well you know I tortured we torture some folks this is not our values and then he goes on and on That was being sanctimonious right there right? You would think! He's being sanctimonious with this speech And I was saying you shouldn't be. You shouldn't... Now, that you know, I can listen to this guy is got as far as i'm concerned the stammering clip is the clip That by the way should be Clip of The Day might say and I'm very annoyed that he didn't get it

1:48:51 But no, it's okay. You can be mean to me if you want No because I feel that um i had a better clip of the day Yeah you know which I have not played yet Which I've not played yet Oh! No you had a really good clip at the beginning I was borderline gonna give you this clip of the day but then The president stammering... I was so stunned by it Do you want a clip every single day? Every single show? You just play some stammering Just playing some stammering. Are you kidding me? Okay, no So what is else does he say after after sanctimonious well sank the moon don't be sanctimonious because apparently it's okay And it's understandable if you're under pressure system plane falls from the sky to torture some folks

1:49:33 Because you know, yeah it's against our values. We are taught this on television. Yes it is understandable. It's on television if you watch 24 or any of these cop shows. Everything short of doing some of the... There's a book people should get ahold of that was written in the 30s I can't remember the name of the author but I read it when I took criminology when they used to have criminology at University California and this one of the books that was recommended its called The Third Degree And it's about the torture techniques that were used by the New York Police Department. And it is very interesting, and very educational! One of the top things I like to do is bring a dentist in and grind down a molar. Hey you know... Grind it down! Grind it down!! But when planes fall from the sky there's a lot of pressure we can't be sanctimonious about grinding down molars

1:50:25 What is your problem? Don't you understand? Sanctimonious in retrospect. Retrospect. About the tough job that those folks had. Yes, who now who was the folks who were tortured had a tough job? Who's folks now or maybe it's the students now I don't know and a lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure... I work hard under enormous pressure! The guy at the gas station works hard under enormous pressure. Especially if it's bosses and- The woman at HEB, at the checkout works hard under enormous pressure of being able to get home on time for the kids but yet she doesn't go around waterboarding her colleagues! And are real patriots but have- Oh I'm sorry If you're a patriot then its okay Fuck yeah Having said all that we did some things that

1:51:21 Is that true? Did he do that? Yeah. In fact, this is what Hayden and his buddy that the head of counterintelligence or those three did threesome the lawyer Hayden the head of the NSA and CIA during that era And this other guy this hard-ass kind of a I don't know which common operative they

1:52:10 Mitch McConnell and his team, they bitched about this in that hearing. They bitched about Obama coming into the Senate saying he can't do it and then they bitched about the fact that they're going to be indicted But the indictment seems to be slow in coming. Well, all of this of course is big cover for the real issue which was the CIA spying on members of the Senate Intelligence Committee. I thought that you guys were going to ask me how i was gonna spend my birthday. That's hilarious, Obama. Yeah you should clash with that. That is really funny. Hold on guys come on there is just... On Brennan and the CIA the RDI report has been transmitted Transmitted? Transmitted! Coming down on 40 meters it's transmitting the RDI report which we do not have an unclassified version of course. De-classified version that will be released

1:53:16 At the pleasure of the Senate committee. At the pleasure of the Senate committee, no less! I have full confidence in John Brennan. I think he has acknowledged and directly apologized to Senator Feinstein Yeah this was kind of what she didn't get previously She went on the House floor for 45 minutes And just play the first 30 seconds of her complaint And the violations that were made under, violations of the Constitution. There was actually some legal violation they could have thrown somebody in jail I have grave concerns that the CIA search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution including the speech and debate clause

1:54:03 It may have undermined the constitutional framework essential to effective congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any other government function. Now, when Mr. Brennenheimer was asked about this by Andrea Mitchell, wife of Goldfinger. Goldfarb! Goldfarb at the Council on Foreign Relations The Drinking Club Here's what he said about this very issue which was being accused of spying and violating the Constitution and possibly

1:54:42 As far as the allegations of CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. We wouldn't do that. I mean, that's just beyond the scope of reason. That would be sanctimonious! Beyond the scope of reason! She says there are potentially illegal and unconstitutional breaches by the CIA. Well, their appropriate authorities right now both inside of CIA as well outside of CIA are looking at what CIA officers... Oh this is crazy

1:55:19 And I will play one, I'm gonna stop this here. He just keeps on going saying it's crazy! We don't do that kind of thing with the CIA! We don't do this! Don't sanctimonious talk? Um... he started this before the Q&A at this very speech at the Council on Foreign Relations, he started with this statement. Now just over a year ago i had the privilege of placing my hand on the very first printed copy of the Constitution a draft edited and annotated personally by George Washington himself that is one of the most treasured items held in the National Archives. He's adding acidity and smudge to the document, he shouldn't have even touched that thing! With my hand on that document Vice President Biden swore me in as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency I chose to take my oath on that precious piece of history As a clear affirmation of what the Constitution means to all us at the agency Which is like toilet paper

1:56:14 We have no higher duty than to uphold and defend the rule of law as we strive every day to protect our fellow citizens. Like so many things involving CIA though... People read nefarious intentions into my decision to take my oath on an early draft of the Constitution that did not contain the Bill of Rights. Yeah, like yeah with a Fourth Amendment and all that stuff in there! On Constitutions first ten amendments So at the risk of disappointing any conspiracy theorists who might be here today Let me assure all of you that I along with my CIA colleagues firmly believe in and honor not only the Constitution, but also the Bill of Rights as well as all subsequent amendments to our constitution. You lying sack of crap! you do not because you violated them. You violated specific elements of the Constitution and you make a joke about it that you put your hand on a copy of the Constitution which did not include these elements And you tell me I'm a conspiracy theorist

1:57:13 It's incredible. It's just really incredible! It's pretty funny, I find it highly amusing Well of course... obviously it is entertaining It's very entertaining come on And at some point I want to say well we droned some folks because he's the guy that pulls the trigger and Obama on their Tuesday death squad meetings They determine who they're gonna drone. Even I stopped counting. And it's pretty illegal from a lot of different perspectives. Yeah, but if you didn't put your hand on the Constitution which had all that stuff in there... He did that because he couldn't take a chance on them. He probably religious and used the Bible. Annoying sanctimonious stuff! We can't have any of that John we can't have any of that

1:58:02 Alright, so let's change some gears here and I use the word so I shouldn't have used. And I let you have it, I didn't care. You know you can take it because your the expert at this and...and I will say that I didn't look at it but you have an executive order that Obama apparently signed in the last minute before everybody went on vacation Friday yeah Friday, he had to ya know what time is it? It's five minutes to 5 okay uhhhh five...let me do it one minute to five Hey did those douchebags put out that billionaire report yet?! And so then they got one better

1:58:39 And so then they see science something had to do with Ebola. Now you are now given the floor to explain. Oh, well thank you I thought maybe would have a few more things on Ebola. I actually wanted to do it after our little break No i don't have anything new on Ebola. I think pretty much cover what I think is going on And I think that they're bringing, if you want to bring conspiracy stuff in the room. The only reason I think that they're bringing and by the way everyone's talking about it going out of control if it was going out of control we'd have some exponential action oh yeah 728 was the last number I saw and there so well there may be another thousand cases here or there It's not getting out of control So they get the two people infected

1:59:19 The two Americans, they bring them for the first time. They were not the first time it was like an OJ Simpson there following the ambulance down the highway. These two guys into Atlanta so they can draw their blood and work on it. Did you see did you see the guy get out of the ambulance himself? Yeah. He stepped out. Oh give me a hand Here's Sanjay Gupta. Of course, you know we have whenever there is an aircraft airliner disaster you bring in Richard Quest the aviation expert with no... certainly no pilot license but known to be most famously for being arrested in Washington Square Park with a dildo and his boot with meth in his pocket and a rope around his neck tied to his genitals

2:00:11 Which by the way, I think is expertise in something. Yeah but...I guess it's some form of flying. So they bring in Sanjay Gupta uh..I like Sanjay! I think he's got a good rap, I think he's got a clean face you know? He looks good, he looks the part, he looks serious. He has puppy dog eyes and also he will don the suit. You know, he'll put on the hazmat suit to go into the Ebola contaminated area So he has some Geraldo aspects to him. He's a good guy, but when he's doing an OJ play-by-play It kind of falls apart two people coming out of the ambulance in those suits it is believed that one of those is dr Kent Brantley What does that tell you Sanjay? That is uh...it's a good sign medically no question a bit of a surprising one poppy I'll tell you You know we had heard some days ago that his condition had deteriorated

2:01:01 And then we heard that he may have stabilized but was still in serious condition Walking off the ambulance the way that he is obviously requiring a little bit of assistance from your medical standpoint From a medical standpoint, he does not seem to be dying at this moment. Now it bodes very well for him It bodes well for him that he's not dead and frankly is a little surprising based on I think what Based on one my producer told me do expect certainly We were expecting what we had been told and how he had been described. We also just confirmed a little bit ago that even before he left Liberia, he was able to stand up and shower on his own actually get into the shower. Where's my dead guy? I could see you showering. I can just see the producer. Get me Liberia on the phone! You promised me a guy with Ebola what are you sending me?!

2:01:45 Get casting. Stable but serious, yet he just stepped out of the back of the ambulance One guy just gave me... There's another discrepancy piece of information which needs to be mentioned. There was some talk, of course this is these stories there was some talk that they had some secret serum that they were going to do some sort of a cure and they offered it to this guy, this guy here. And he says no-no give it to my assistant but there's only one vial left doctor! There is only one vial left give it her give it to her! Don't you remember this? No I didn't hear this, this is great! Oh yeah oh brother...

2:02:36 allow with everything when we have a Hollywood moment like this. And I had Hollywood producers email me saying, I would've rejected the script. There's no way that this who came up with this who allowed this to pass And if anything, Gupta needs to fire his agent. This is a shitty gig for Sanjay. "...and looking at these images maybe he has improved even since that time... He is going to be in this isolation ward for some time they're gonna start replacing fluids giving whatever treatments he is necessary..." The guy's wandering around in the open air? Well he had a suit on, he had a bunny suit on but yeah but he's getting- did you see the pictures?!

2:03:18 It's too funny. So the ambulance stops in front of the ward and there is one guy in a hazmat suit standing at the back, the rear entrance this is one of those box ambulances like the big boxes like a truck, like a meat packing truck. Yeah it's small, it's like a van. And yeah and the door opens and the guy jumps down but he...and the guy who was assisting him just gives him a hand then he hops down off the back of the truck This is not a guy dying. Mentioned Poppy already in route to pick up one of his colleagues also from Samaritan's Plus and bring her back to the United States and Atlanta as well, you know, poppy I'll just tell you real quick i know you've heard this but what you're seeing here has never happened before we've never had a patient with Ebola in Atlanta in the united states in the western hemisphere of the world

2:04:09 So this is from a medical standpoint, the scientific standpoint certainly a first. And this is how it transpired intentionally through a medical evacuation program. Yeah I do have some on the vaccine here for you if you want to hear that again non-essential travelers no longer go to West Africa they made so they may talk about several different things including a question that comes up quite a bit with regard to vaccines or some sort of treatment for patients with Ebola. And Dr. Frieden, who's the head of the CDC said look he believes that still a year away before something like that is approved it doesn't mean things like that won't get used in an experimental more compassionate use standpoint. Compassionate!

2:04:50 experimental compassionate. But the idea about having a vaccine available for sort of mass vaccinations, that's just not going to be available he thinks for at least a year or so probably not during this particular outbreak so there are lots of different considerations they're sending more personnel on the ground the CDC is 50 more personnel they say at least to try and stem the tide and they reminded people that every outbreak in the past has ultimately been controlled But this one's been really challenging. Yes, very very challenging and of course the news media and the entertainment industrial complex loves jumping all over it for a number of reasons which I have evidence of NBC

2:05:30 with their fine news program, they really cut to the chase. If you want to view this Ebola which you could say global warming, Ebola AIDS whatever it is essentially all these things are going to be used as excuses to vote people off the island, the island being the good ship Mother Earth. And those of you who are too much will just have to go. The Centers for Disease Control now has people at about 20 places around the country where flights can come in. They certainly know manifests of people coming out of dangerous areas And people on the ground have been told to look out for certain symptoms. High fever, headache, sore throat weaknesses... People in the early stages look sick and airlines are on the alert to call The Herd and if that's the case not allow people to have international travel." Let's call The Herd! Just say it just say it we're calling The Herd right now

2:06:29 And of course this all really is to promote the TNT television program which kicked off in June, which I guess is just not doing too well. Have you seen The Last Ship? Yeah, I saw the first episode and then I didn't like it but I just watched a little bit of the second episode and then I stopped watching it completely. It's a piece of crap! I mean, I have the trailer but since you think it's a piece of crap we shouldn't play... Oh, it was a total piece of crap yeah But I think we already ran... I don't remember playing the trailer. Yeah, I had a clip of the woman going on about how We got the virus and we got it. It's me, they're after me." The Russians are after them. Yeah you remember... So essentially there is a ship and the only people alive on earth are on the ship and they have to try to get the vaccine to save everybody and its about an outbreak and the president is dead? Everyone's dead. Everyone's dead. Except the ship and the Russians that are after them of course

2:07:25 Why are the Russians after him? I don't know. We have all kinds of people who produce this program, all walks of life... John and I are pretty much jack-of-all trades expert in nothing. That's not true! Well, we're expert in a few things but not necessarily in... You know all about the insert hole. In a mixer! I do. I am very skilled at the insert hole and the mixer Yeah But I don't think that we are necessarily qualified in virology We both are ham radio operators. Well, yeah, we have our tickets. You have to pass a test Actually, I used to have a third class phone

2:08:08 In the olden days of radio when you had... Yeah, no. I had an FCC license for a radio broadcaster. You didn't have to even get in a radio station. Although I found it always disappointing that you essentially...I'm sorry I used the word essentially. You filled out a... You're catching everything! Yes well yes. Well i'm dropping the ball. You filled out a form and you printed your own name on it and then they sent that back with a stamp on it but if I'd known I would have printed it neater Oh that wasn't the case with my third class phone I passed the test and they sent a very nice certificate. If i could dig it up, I'd frame it! Very pretty, very official looking Well the point of getting to is that we have doctors medical doctors We also have doctors of dental medicine veterinarian medicine...we have all kinds of physicians We have a lot of listeners and many are highly skilled They are very very skilled And so we had this executive order come out on Friday

2:09:07 And let me see, actually they called it something else because the president no longer numbers his executive orders. Is this a memorandum perhaps? No it is an executive order but they don't give it numbers anymore for some reason. Yeah they stopped doing that because the numbers are getting too ridiculous. Executive order and this came out...actually it came out Friday morning written on Thursday evening revised list of quarantinable communicable diseases and the beginning here by the authority vested in me as president, by the Constitution, the laws of United States America.

2:09:43 It is hereby ordered as follows, section 1 amendment to executive order 13295 and then there's a replacement text for that executive order. This executive order that is being replaced amended and otherwise changed was an executive order from President Bush And there is a noticeable change. Dr Jones, who was one of our producers helped me analyze exactly what has been done here and he uses some terms that even you brought up which I hadn't heard before so the changes are interesting So this press release of 31st July 2014 references the 2003 Executive Order 13295 from George W Bush

2:10:29 That particular executive order from 2003 added a blurb about SARS. So, SARS had not been on the list at the time and President Bush added that to the communicable diseases executive order. Interestingly, the 2003 order already included Ebola so you kind of wonder what is this executive order about? What is its intent? What I found interesting is the 2003 order states Ebola as part of a list of VHFs. Now, I immediately thought oh my goodness we've got to repeat her with the D star but no viral hemorrhagic fevers that say did you not bring up the hemorrhagic fever on the yesterday?

2:11:17 Do you want to tell me about the hemorrhagic fever? Is there something we need to know about that specifically?" There is a number of them. They come from the same family. Marburg is the other most notorious, and they tend to...they're weird because they go in... Weird?! Are they of ungodly nature? Uncanny? Are they out of this world? Okay, they are odd in that they go and they bust up the cells in such a way that you start to bleed internally. And often your skin breaks out with lesions and you start bleeding there eventually bleed through your eyes and your ears Nice! The eye-bleeding is the one... That's a good one. Bleeding from the eyes? Okay. Yeah someone just bleeding from their eyes isn't good Now of note on that list In other words you're hemorrhaging everywhere Yes through the eyes

2:12:13 The list is open-ended and allows for quarantine of any other viral hemorrhagic fever, quote not yet isolated or named. Now remember Ebola is already on the list. Was the word... read that? Not yet isolated or made? Named! Named! Named! Named! Named! Given a name. They didn't put made in there? No. Maybe it was just a dyslexic moment and they meant made but it says named appreciate that the 2003 order added SARS, but the language of that executive order specifically exempted influenza. Again this executive order is about... well I'm gonna get to the money shot in a moment. So it influenza was removed within in 2005

2:13:09 President Bush amended Executive Order 13295 with 13375 and added a Section C which has not been changed with this. Our president Obama has only changed section B, so section C remains intact which included so-called influenza viruses that cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic and then of course a few years later we got the H1N1 with a level 6 pandemic which was with change rules of what a pandemic was just coincidence I'm sure The new executive order, 2014 makes no reference to section C so that remains in place. It excises the SARS language from Section B to make application of the quarantine broader This is...so the executive order is about quarantine apprehension and detention So uh..the dude from Newsweek should get ready to write a whole new article because here it comes

2:14:13 So you may feel relieved that the influenza exception has been removed as President Obama has done, but Section C from 2005 is still in effect which means also influenza viruses that cause or have the potential to cause a pandemic remain in place. Which will be every new one? Yes the purpose of that, of C and this new order is and I quote specifying certain communicable diseases from for regulations providing for the apprehension detention or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction transmission or spread of suspected communicable diseases. i think there...i think

2:15:03 Obviously, you think oh they're going to throw us in FEMA camps apprehension detention but the release is what I think is interesting. And if you had a whole bunch of illegals in San Antonio and you know they might have dengue fever or something else maybe it want to release them under this executive order that's the new word here conditional release to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of suspected communicable diseases. I gotta read this myself now! This doesn't sound right... Uh-huh uh-huh there it is my brother Yeah sure all right well i'm disappointed in this analysis Why? Because I just don't buy into the you're suggesting

2:15:59 that there would take a bunch of guys like these characters coming across the border that supposedly have one thing or another, let's say non-type of tuberculosis which by the way they track these people down and grab them. Let's step back one second. Let us agree that this Ebola scare is just a media scare and it's hype and its bullcrap do we agree on that? Yeah! Okay so but you might as well... It's not as though it's not a dry run for something potentially bigger There's but everything is a dry run for something potentially bigger not everything of course everything is I'm not as pessimistic as you are. I think a lot of things are just accidental Let's screw ups well, you can go and analyze whatever you want. I don't understand It's just oh my I'm not I'm not disappointed. I don't think that that's what it was about

2:16:55 I don't know what it was about, maybe just a throwaway but i'm very suspicious the way you were because there's such a last minute thing. What was the point of that? Well this is the border issue! This is the solution to that problem All right well... Okay no I'm sorry I mean if you wanted me to crack pot that we're all going to FEMA camps That's a given We don't need executive orders for that. We know where the FEMA camps are, we know I'm in region 6 you're in this region 9, we know where going! There's no camps around here they can have enough... They'll have too much trouble moving anyone out and just kill everyone which may be the release part of it. I did get a nice note from our um uh you got a lot of

2:17:43 feedback actually on your negative population growth analysis. These guys are still around, but I found some interesting things out this is from remember the guy who sent us the copy of the scrap paper for the Common Core test which had a barcode on it? He says, after hearing John's interesting and your discussion on the scare of population explosion I thought you might be interested to hear about this non-profit group that contacted me not too long ago. As you know i'm a seventh grade social studies teacher...I sent you the email about the barcode scratch paper well in my school mail I got a letter from a nonprofit named The Negative Population Growth Foundation soliciting free resources to help me teach my students about the apocalyptic world they were going to be growing up in because of population growth

2:18:31 Of course I responded right away and got every free resource they were offering. Yeah! NPG dot org, John This is where you want to be. NPG dot org And this... these guys have been around since 1972! 1972 These are the original people Yeah these are the guys So it's npr uh... npg dot org and if you look at the resources They have the 2014 student fact sheet Which is kind of fun if you just click on that one. You can... They're looking for resources, I don't see it. At the top of the page uh... It says home what NPR oh i see at the drop down yeah i'm sorry yeah For educators? Yeah um introduction to students why population matters to you request a teacher's packet

2:19:20 Essentially here what you can do. Here we go who's paying for this operation? Well that is not easy to find I could not find you never can but you could become a member and understand be I would have to really Dig deep, but I did get from and this is this here in Alexandria hmm Oh yeah of course Virginia You were talking about the Who was the guy, the main guy of the population bomb? Was that Ehrlich? Ehrlich. So who wrote a paper with Paul Ehrlich in 1974?

2:20:05 I'm bringing up a scan of that paper now, which of course you can find in the show notes. Human population and the global environment's population growth rising per capita material consumption and disruptive technologies have made civilization a global ecological force The dangerous misconceptions appear to be widespread amongst decision makers and others with responsibilities related to population growth We and others have dealt at length with the third misconception, which is that science and technology can make possible the long continuation of rapid growth in civilization's consumption of natural resources. And we've been dealing with this. In this paper we argue that environmental deterioration is a much more subtle pervasive and dangerous phenomenon than is implied by the narrow view of pollution

2:20:48 We show further that population size and the rate of population growth in rich countries as well as in poor ones have been, and continue to be important contributing factors for the generation of environmental disruption. Written by Paul R Ehrlich and John P Holdren. Who? John P Holdren. John P Holder? Holdren! Aldrin. John P. Holdren, born March 1st. Senior advisor to President Barack Obama on science and technology issues through his role as assistant to the president for science and technology. That would be clip of the day! Director of the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy and co-chair of the president's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology

2:21:35 Previously, he was the Teresa and John Hines professor at the environmental policy at The Kennedy School. Could you have more? He's a conspiracy theorist! Yes I know...I'm sorry. I'm sorry iIm trying to stitch together Watermelon Head Carey, The Kennedy School, the population explosion growth negative population growth eugenicists A-hole people. You've got to describe it correctly Uh, it's... you've got to think that- No, I know. This is ridiculous! It's just stupid. These same people. And they're still around? They worm their way into these operations. They give themselves away if anyone wants to do some research on them but the early guy, that guy is a big phony. But Pauldron wrote this paper with him in 1974 Yeah and he was working for Obama sure what a coincidence

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2:27:41 the mini six, the Mini Beast. Dave and Terry well here's the Mini Beast is actually 6660 and here are all of people that came in with that lots of them oh I'll go over all them then i'll announce the winners of the contest so they want to first ones that come into with a 60-60 that's right 6660 and according to the PayPal timestamp yes Joshua Pappin Reservoir Victoria Australia John Kroos in Lakewood Colorado John Holler in Missoula Montana Scott Waldherr in Rhinelander, Wisconsin. Chad Inman in Los Angeles California Richard Chow and Fullerton California Joshua Dilsever in Springfield Missouri Francine Hardaway in Half Moon Bay California I didn't know Francine was in... Damn Francine! I didn't know she was in Half Moon Bay Yeah she's right up the road from you What am I thinking?

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2:29:24 Which is what we're doing now. And it would be just a, you know... It's something fun to do in the summer. You know? It's a summertime... A summertime gimmick! Promotion! But people love promotion. People love these contests. So we got two people that came in at exactly 2 30 on the money because there was no seconds timer so I had to give them time. Okay all right So one of them is computer system solutions, CSS computer solution systems I guess. They came in at 2 30 and then DH slammer all the otherwise known as Ryan Gilo came in at two thirty and then I think I told Mickey Keck that he'd won but I may be wrong. I may have told Brian whatever the case Mickey came

2:30:10 Actually second, but third because there were two first places. There was nobody else he'd be in third no second places and he came in at 231 So Mickey came in one minute after the other two guys and then after that it was 2.37, there was nobody close to these three. So what you're saying is it pays off to A make sure you get the newsletter because if its going to spam make sure you get the newsletter then be on the lookout for it. You know what days it comes out comes out on Saturday. And you can win valuable prizes! Now I haven't gotten to the valuable prizes yet, but it's a good test. I'll probably try it again next Saturday...I'm not gonna do it on Thursday because too many people get their Hobies letter at work Oh right yeah and so I'm not gonna push my luck on that but I think the next week we'll do another one see what happens. Anyway I want to thank all the people who took part

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2:33:00 Well, I'm looking. I have to go back and look at this and I may have to do a correction but i don't think the way it came in... I think you need to publish the rules and regulations of your contest so You're always bugging me about this stuff. I'm not! Let me take a look, hold on a second... It's not- alright you take a look. I'll tell ya what we'll have this straightened out the way i have it is Ryan got one and so DH Slammer and CSS are the same now well whatever just got an email but this I mean I don't know okay well then there's a missing person off to add to the will give them a special call out if this is true

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2:37:47 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! I've lost pretty much a lot of respect now. Although we did have that story, VanCat had the story about the canned wine as though it was something new when it's not, canned wine in France has been around for a long time. But this is the one that really got me. This clip is Respect For France and its Cuisine Part One or just no part number but that's the one. We're in northern France in the small commune of Devisse. Nicolas Therrin is an organic market gardener and has great instinct he recently devoted a small plot of his land to a vegetable that's proving quite the thing in Paris... Kale

2:38:44 A member of the cabbage family with exceptional nutritional value. Americans have made this leafy cabbage their must-have superfood and it's becoming increasingly well known in France. It's the must have super food! You know, there was a clip that was from one of the food conferences in agriculture and they said the number of kale numbers are so minor. It's not even anything and then when you listen to part two of the clip it makes it sound as though this is of course public relations out of England I might add have been promoting the kale As a superfood! As a superfood for suckers. It's a depression food. It's inedible

2:39:26 The French are cooking it with a bunch of other stuff to make it so you can choke it down. Wouldn't the trifecta, wouldn't the ultimate be mac and cheese with kale garnish? Oh don't even bring that up! If the first person to find and to photograph and send us a picture of a combo meal mac and cheese with kale will win valuable prizes So play part two and we'll get data here. It's different from a cabbage which is ball shaped and has leaves that fold over and over to form the ball. With kale, the leaves grow in the opposite fashion

2:40:08 and readily regrow after picking, so you can get several harvests from one plant. There are various varieties – there's green kale and also a number of purple varieties." The season runs from September through to March. Some parts of France have been growing it for some time yet French consumers aren't used to seeing it on the market stalls Nicolas hadn't even heard of it two years ago. In fact, he discovered it by chance when he was trying out new vegetables. I had ordered some plants and seeds and started to grow them. I wasn't even that sure what they would look like! And when I saw them, I thought, What on earth is this? And I was actually quite uncertain as to how I was going to sell them. His clients are from in and around Paris. He initially targeted expatriates who were familiar with kale from their home country

2:41:02 And this is how Nicolas met a certain Kristen Bedard, originally from Pittsburgh. They'd just started a blog called The Kale Project to promote this miraculous cabbage in France. She was an American lady who had been looking for it in France for some time and she came across it on my stall and began buying from me. She told me that it was extremely popular in the United States and it was highly fashionable... ...and that they called it kale! Kristen Bedard isn't the only one promoting kale in France. Wow, John I can see where this hurt you! It did... deeply

2:41:41 Now, the thing that's weird about this guy and his kale is that he's got the stalks. It's like the kale comes up out of the ground in a long tree-like thing it's about three feet high Oh really? And then the ball is at the top The ball of... The kale ball Kale ball I don't know how he's getting to do that but then he pulls leaves off of it and wraps them up and sells him for some overpriced whatever the JIP rate is where kale is the most expensive vegetable in the world I'm done. This is the biggest scam i've ever seen it's just and and more and we're not in it Well, that's the problem with the scam Yeah But then we'd have to all right I need to get you out on a high note because you're really depressed about this And I can understand that's that's not okay. I get it. I'm very very sad for you Uh so I would like to take us out with um with some fun stuff First i'll bring you down a little bit further with the president

2:42:36 Clearly with words of war, John. And of course this is all about... With respect to Ukraine I think that we have done everything that we can to support the Ukrainian government and to deter Russia from moving further into Ukraine but Short of going to war. What? There are gonna be some constraints in terms of what we can do. Short of going to war?! Yeah, I heard that clip too very...very sketchy thing to say. Short of going to war there's some other things we can do if i'm just looking at the language that kind of means you know that's what we can do next

2:43:22 which of course is not what we want. Well, I would say that we are at war with Russia. We are in an economic war and just because we're not shooting or dropping bombs... Sanctions are an act of war as far as i'm concerned! I agree with you and on the Matt & Marie show my hero Mat Lee from Associated Press the Lou Grant of our age, and Marie the band camp girl who is just... she needs to be fired for what she says here. If you have any realistic expectation that this latest round is actually going to do what you say you want it to do? Well I mean the point here

2:44:08 continue upping the pressure and increasingly squeezing them economically so that President Putin will make the right decision here. But if he doesn't, we will continue putting the pressure on him? I mean look, the fact that even before yesterday nearly $100 billion in capital was expected to flee Russia at some point, I think the Russian citizens are going to be pretty unhappy because of his actions in the region and other countries their economy is tanking. So that's what it's designed to do is designed to tank the Russian economy, ladies and gentlemen. That is an actual act of war right there squeezing the economy as she says, tanking the economy that's what it's designed to do. Yeah that's what she said And here's...and Matt of course straight up ran with it

2:44:58 We'll keep upping the pressure. These are three key sectors yesterday that firms in these sectors really want access to the US, really want access to EU and are going to feel the pressure. So does that mean the intent of these sanctions is to using your words tank the Russian economy? Yes! Yes, the purpose of these sanctions is to put enough pressure on the Russian government that eventually President Putin will change his calculation But if he does it he's going to face a situation where people in this country who've worked so hard To be part of international community won't be. He can face those consequences Because your sanctions have affected them Have very negatively affected the Russian economy which will affect them

2:45:43 So in fact, you're saying that the goal here is to make it painful on the Russian people. Not at all! No, no no no I don't want to hurt the Russian people but fuck them That's not what i said Matt. The goal is...I will repeat for you yet again Is to put enough pressure on the Russian government that they change their calculation and do different things in future Part of how that happens is the people of Russia say look I don't want to have access to international financial system because You know I just heard Boris say the other day hey look I want to have access to the international financial system. President Putin is off trying to invade other countries? He's away! President Putin is invading other countries and he has access to the international money system. What other countries is he invading? Crimea, Ukraine...

2:46:33 China that's part of what can affect a leader's calculation which I calculate calculus yet Excuse me. Yes, I am but is the is the goal right now then to drive the Russian economy into recession Yeah There's a lot of people say that all is too is to pressure The Russian government to change their behavior have you come to conclusion that getting to that point? would will require Putting driving the Russian economy into recession. No, that's too simplistic What we've always said is the longer sanctions are in place the more impact they have and We want that to change the president yesterday was asked if this is a new Cold War He said no This is a very specific set of circumstances But can we get credentials to go in and ask questions as well? We might be able to in this one because this is not the hard one to get into I would love To do that but they may not call on you

2:47:23 That's different. Well, that's just like well people just kind of pipe up the way it's and I'm now totally convinced that the Saki the Jen Saki yeah woman is just memory Harf who? I believe worked at the CIA if I'm not mistaken as a spokesman whole sake no this one work for the CIA Yeah, so I'm saying our far. Yeah she worked for the CISC. I think she's trying to get rid of sake oh She wants that job. She's the second in command, she's not the lead person. No no she definitely is. She's an associate or something like that and she wants Saki out That's why she's working on the Brolf thing And I think Saki wants to move up like Noodleman I think Saki is gonna get kicked out of the entire State Department Could be! I don't know...I think she's short-termer I think she's gonna end up in defense Or some other thing where she's not going to be seen much But I think this girl's out to get her

2:48:15 Well, she went on and Matt essentially went down the road of okay so sanctions on Iran was that meant to tank the economy? He keeps bringing that back. It was pretty funny but then So my day was really made this morning when I saw Fareed Zakaria, the anti-constitutionalist who has frequent beers with President Obama to discuss important issues. So I don't know if he's an advisor or a journalist...a globalist? An Atlanticist? I don't know what he is but he has at least codified for us a new term. Putinism! Okay, Putinism

2:48:53 We've had communism, we have socialism. Well yeah so take off this is an associative terminology this is to associate you with Stalinism and Trotskyites and Leninism but Stalinism Leninism Marxism there's all named after people and now we have Putinism which is going to be, you know, it's just bull crap. Well this is terrible. This is insulting. Let's listen to his entire... How about Obamaism? It doesn't roll off the tongue like Putinism. Putinism sounds good. Yeah, Putinism here's his gosh I hadn't even thought about that Marxism is a guy's name Stalinism as a guy's name Leninism Leninism yeah John Lennon and then we have McCarthyism But Obamaism doesn't work

2:49:40 Isn't that interesting? You have to have one of these. Putinism, it's beautiful! If you need a hard letter at the end... If you have children they will grow up learning in books like we learned Marxism They will learn Putinism and here it is. The crucial elements of Putinism are nationalism religion social conservatism state capitalism, and government domination of the media. They work in tandem to sustain Putin's popularity eroding judicial independence limiting individual rights and muzzling the free press If you look around the world there are others who have embraced core elements of Putinism

2:50:19 Erdogan has veered away from his reformist agenda toward one that is more socially conservative, Islamist and highly nationalistic. We got our eye on you Erdogan! You Putinism dude! He didn't bring in China. China's following the exact same checklist. That's Chiner-ism! More socially conservative, Islamist and highly nationalistic Many of Europe's far-right leaders are openly admiring of Putin and what he stands for. I'm looking at you, Nigel Farage, who is far right. Putinism! Scherzwilders Putinism The success of Putinism ultimately will depend a great deal on the success of Putin and Russia under him. Yeowww!

2:51:00 It's not gonna catch on it just sounds idiotic. I like it. I like it I'm gonna use my bed is it's not gonna catch you can't catch. It's no good. I'm going to use it wherever it sounds idiotic Well, you can use it Putinism. It just sounds it sounds like dog crap or something in poopin ISM What did where's your dog doing? He's doing a little putanism The whole thing sound doesn't sound right Where should dog do a little putanism Thank you, I like that. That's good! Yeah... Well now why are you- Are you angry now? Did I say something wrong? I'm still pissed about the kale Hey listen It's just like fighting a- it's like fighting uh.. The ocean John?! You can't- you take a bucket of water and throw it back and it just comes back at ya' You can't stop it We're doomed This is more severe than anything we've ever seen in terms of public relations Victory over the public itself Are you debenched today

2:52:00 Yeah, I'll be on the show. I'll be I'm gonna actually go in a little early so you can do a little wine talk with the chatroom Wait a minute You're going and so you're going on the the twit network today yeah And somebody called me out on Twitter saying that was an a-hole forever returning Oh No, no we use that but the point of that is we need to publicity for this show here exactly exactly Is there a new phone out are you prepared? You know, I had some tech news but oh yeah no the tech news. I had was that ham guy talking about the transmitter We had other techniques we had another thing there what were you talking about? Oh the upgraded here you can do this Mujahideen secrets you can talk about the upgraded tech news Yeah, upgraded Al-Qaeda Encryption technology yeah, yeah that would be very exciting i'll be looking forward to it

2:52:56 Yeah, I'm sure you will and wait. You're not on so don't worry about it no because they know you always Know check it. I know either. I don't think I'm on today yeah, I'll be looking for me though if I see you there I get to know let me know Coming to you from FEMA region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state where we will be back With you on Thursday in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley Where the traffic around here was just pathetic right now that going into San Francisco, and this is a Sunday morning It's just jammed up anyway. I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday right here on no agenda their economy is tanking so That's what it's designed to do

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