Episode 607 · Thursday, 10 April 2014

Big Sandy

Geopolitical tensions freeze space cooperation as financial insiders warn of a dollar collapse and the tech industry reels from the massive Heartbleed security vulnerability.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 607

About this episode

NASA has officially suspended most contact with the Russian Federation following the annexation of Crimea, though cooperation on the International Space Station remains a necessary exception. The internal directive prohibits travel, teleconferences, and even email correspondence between NASA employees and Russian government representatives. This geopolitical shift coincides with the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) pivoting its focus from property rights to the urgent export of liquid natural gas to Europe.

In the financial sector, author Nomi Prins details the historical revolving door between Goldman Sachs and the White House, while Jim Rickards warns that the petrodollar is under threat from BRICS nations seeking IMF reform. Domestic policy remains contentious as Attorney General Eric Holder faces off with Representative Louie Gohmert over the Fast and Furious investigation, and President Obama marks National Equal Pay Day using disputed wage gap statistics. Meanwhile, the Smoking Gun identifies Al Sharpton as a former FBI informant known as CI-7, a claim Sharpton defends by framing his cooperation as a crusade against organized crime.

Technological vulnerabilities take center stage with the discovery of the Heartbleed bug in OpenSSL and the controversial appointment of Condoleezza Rice to the Dropbox board. The episode also features a knighting ceremony for producer Alex Zoglin following his successful 17,000-foot launch of a custom hobbyist rocket. From the satire of Mike Judge's Silicon Valley to the suspicious frequency discrepancies in the search for MH370, the narrative challenges mainstream media's scripted reality.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Keyboard Commands, Linux Efficiency, and Command Line Workflows

The hosts discuss their preference for keyboard-centric workflows over using a mouse, highlighting the efficiency of Linux command line operations. One host describes using an outliner in a browser controlled almost entirely by keyboard shortcuts. They emphasize the speed of autocomplete features like the tab key for professional computing tasks.

linux· keyboard commands· command line· outliner· tab key

00:00 I got a weapon right here. I'm just visionary here in FEMA region 6 in Travis Heights, Hot Hots, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I just dropped my mouse on the floor, I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. You know you open yourself up for ridicule now. For dropping the mouse? Yeah, where I could say there's no evidence you need one. I don't actually. I have a keyboard with a little thing, the track point. I barely use my mouse. If I can avoid it, I'm not using the mouse.

00:46 I'm the keyboard command line guy all the way. Just typing away. No, even the show notes. I have an outliner and it runs in the browser but I still use 99% keyboard commands to control it. Okay, and it's much faster people have no no keyboards much fast always if you ever watch a guy using Linux And he needs to do something that's very complicated take a thousand clicks Long line and boom not instantly my favorite is the tab key like you type like the first three letters of something you hit the tab key and it autocompletes Yeah, that's a cool. No you can go for real fast if your keyboard oriented hey before we do anything John I

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

Alex Zoglin, Crackpot and Buzzkill Rocket Launch

Producer Alex Zoglin constructed and launched a massive hobbyist rocket featuring "Crackpot and Buzzkill" branding on the side. The rocket, equipped with multiple GoPro cameras, reached an altitude of approximately 17,000 feet. The hosts speculate on the cost and origin of the rocket parts, suggesting the use of government surplus materials.

alex zoglin· rocket· hobbyist· gopro· 17000 feet

01:30 Congratulations! We made it into space! What? We made it into space. Our show? Yeah, well not just our show, you and me buddy. The Crackpot and the Buzzkill. Oh right, our Rocketeer. Did you see that video? Yeah. Oh my goodness, those of you listening on the stream or if you're in a safe place, go to rocket.noagendanotes.com. This is, let's see, what's his name again? I wrote it down. Alex Zoglin producer and he had this giant rocket and this thing was seriously giant. Is it like five man height? It was yeah, it was a big one. He's one of those real serious hobbyists. That's not a hobby. Come on, what do you think that thing cost?

02:25 Probably wasn't, it was probably, I don't know. I mean these guys mostly work with government surplus. Yeah. And so they get that for nothing because who the heck wants a rocket body? Yeah. It was probably from like a bunch of like... From Syria. Leftover chemical weapon rocket from Syria. Yeah, something like yeah, I don't know He did donate today's and really oh really I didn't know that oh wow he's at the top of the list well And you can see him there, and he will Explain to us in a future Letter I'm guessing mm-hmm exactly where he got all the parts well. I loved it I

03:06 Was I was blind I only really saw the whole thing this morning I put it right there now I gave it a domain name even but I put it right there in the show notes. It's just fantastic I should tweet it. I should tweet that we're doing the show Yeah, there you go anyway, so this rocket has a big crackpot and buzzkill You know painted like a real nice paint job to on the side. You know, it would say USA NASA none of that No, no Crackpot buzzkill into space and he did GoPro cameras all over the thing. I loved it was great I think we made it to 17,000 feet. No, that's that's up there. It's not quite space, but no It's not even quite do the atmosphere that they we fly in but you know, you can actually even breathe there kind of yeah Yeah, oh boy. All right. I don't even see your tweet here. I did tweet. Oh

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

John Kerry, C-SPAN, and Russian Mercenary Allegations

Secretary of State John Kerry appeared on C-SPAN to address the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, accusing Russian special forces of inciting chaos. Kerry criticized Russia for what he termed "19th-century behavior" in the 21st century. Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry alleged that US mercenaries from the firm Greystone, an affiliate of Academi, are operating alongside Ukrainian forces.

john kerry· c-span· vladimir putin· crimea· greystone

04:01 Anyway, let me see. Let me get us underway with He must be so proud of himself. You think John Kerry is still writing all his own stuff? I think so I don't see why he wouldn't unless he's been scolded and they want Jen Psaki to write for him No, I don't know. I don't know who he did another three-hour session And I think all the good stuff this week or these past couple of days was on C-SPAN I mean, for... man, it's just... everything else is boring. C-SPAN had some of the goods and Kerry, of course, in his never-ending quest to humiliate and belittle Vladimir Putin and to F-Russia out of the SDR, I guess, came up with quite the line. No one should be fooled and believe me, no one is fooled.

04:55 by what could potentially be a contrived pretext for military intervention just as we saw in Crimea. It is clear that Russian special forces and agents have been the catalyst behind the chaos of the last 24 hours. Some have even been arrested and exposed. And equally as clear must be the reality that the United States and our allies will not hesitate to use 21st century tools to hold Russia accountable for 19th century behavior. We had a beer back at HQ over that one. Okay... Russia's foreign ministry claims Ukraine's forces in the east have been joined by both right-wing nationalists and US mercenaries from the private military firm Greystone. Greystone's affiliated with the private security firm Academy, formerly known as Blackwater, which has previously denied accusations that staff are working in Ukraine. She forgot that when they were called Z.

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CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Pete Souza, Washington Post, and the Putin Tourist Photo

The Washington Post recently recirculated a 1980s photograph by Pete Souza showing Ronald Reagan meeting a young tourist in Red Square who resembles Vladimir Putin. The hosts point out that this same image was used for propaganda purposes in 2009 following the Georgia conflict. They question the timing of the reprint and note Jeff Bezos's ownership of the publication alongside his Amazon CIA contracts.

pete souza· washington post· vladimir putin· ronald reagan· jeff bezos

06:43 Vladimir Putin is insane! That's impossible. Right, but then here's the proof for it. And of course this is, he still loves you know the Russian Empire and can't you know... that whole line? All right. So it's this picture and it was in the Washington Post that is of Ronald Reagan meeting a kid in Red Square back in the 80s And next to the kid is what the caption says, you know, looks a lot like Vladimir Putin. And the photographer, and this is kind of where it tipped me off, like hold on a second. The photographer is Pete Souza.

07:31 and he is still a White House photographer. He's the one that took the picture of the Situation Room with Hillary with her hand to her mouth. Oh yeah, he took like about 50 shots and that was his fave. So this guy is... And her hand wasn't to her mouth, she was smelling her up here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could tell by looking at it. Stop, stop, stop. Stop. And so I'm like, well, you know, first of all it doesn't... Yeah, it looks a little bit like Vladimir Putin, this photo. But what the Washington Post And I'll point out Washington Post is of course owned by the same guy who has a company that has a 600 million dollar deal with the CIA. I failed to point out... Jeff Bezos? Yes, failed to point out that this exact same picture was used in 2009 right after the Georgia fracas. It's the exact same thing.

08:23 So this is now, what are we, five years later? What is the point of the picture? Let's go back it up. All right, so the point of the picture... Is Putin alongside anyone? He's always hanging out? Putin is a long-term KGB agent. So here's...Susa said he asked the Secret Service agent how these tourists in the Soviet Union are asking these pointed questions, because that apparently was the so-called younger Putin who was asking questions. The kid? No, the guy next to the kid with a camera who looks like a tourist. And the answer was, oh, these are all KGB families.

09:04 Sousa said he was told the tourist with the camera was Putin and it certainly does look like him Don't you think this is the Washington Post don't you think they did this? They did this the second they reprise this. Yes. Yes. Yes. They're bringing it back five years later Which I pointed out to this person who said this to me and I said really? I mean isn't obvious that this is you know that this is just on file? It's the file shot to use. Yeah, hey what can we do? Go to file shot B. Okay, man. Let's use that. Yeah, when? When should we use it? 2009. Ah, it's good to go. It's good to go, man. It wasn't in the post, it was in the telegraph. That's good. So it's just these little irritating things. Well yeah, of course Putin may be nuts. No less nuts than John Kerry. Or how about this? John McCain.

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Vladimir Putin, Russian Fight Fans, and New York Times Leaks

A 2011 report regarding Vladimir Putin being booed at an M-1 Global mixed martial arts event has resurfaced in Western media. Additionally, the New York Times published a report claiming Russia withheld details regarding the Boston Marathon bombing suspects. The information reportedly came from a classified Inspector General report shared by anonymous American officials ahead of a Congressional briefing.

vladimir putin· m-1 global· new york times· boston bombing· inspector general

09:52 These guys are all nuts. John McCain is completely, he's just off the rails. So, uh... Food by Russian fight fans in rare public appearances. Another Washington Post article. Yeah, yeah, the Post is all over. He's at a World Wrestling Federation, only called M1, it's some Russian version. Uh-huh. And he's in the... the squared circle with a microphone and I suppose he's calling somebody a pencil neck or something let's get ready to rubble and Putin boo and here's a the caption this was when was this run I'll get the picture in a second the captions Putin is booed by Russian fight fans in rare public show of disapproval do we expected to believe all his propaganda I don't know

10:44 If I mean if I'm at the Russian fight and Putin shows up, and he's in the ring Yeah, maybe I'm Buddha, but it'd be a joke. He'll be like I'll be very quiet boo-boo. He's ran it November 21st 2011 uh-huh oh it's running again No, no, this is when it ran. I didn't know it's running again. I'm just saying they're spreading these out apparently. Alright, so let's just looking at the Ukraine F Russian news. Okay, we have this with my favorite I have to say comes from the New York Times. The New York Times headline Russia didn't share all details on Boston bombing suspect. Aha!

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

NASA, Roscosmos, and International Space Station Cooperation

NASA announced a suspension of most contacts with the Russian Federation due to the situation in Ukraine, though cooperation on the International Space Station will continue. An internal NASA email reveals that travel, teleconferences, and even emails with Russian government representatives are prohibited unless specifically exempted. The hosts suggest the move is a political maneuver to secure more funding for domestic private space firms like Elon Musk's SpaceX.

nasa· roscosmos· international space station· elon musk· meredith mckay

11:29 So now Putin's responsible for the Boston bombing. Putin bombed Boston. The report was produced by Inspector General of the Intelligence Community. Oh yeah, really I should... where am I? I'm late on all this stuff. Responsible for 17 separate agencies. and the Inspector General from the Department of Homeland Security, Justice Department and the CIA. It has not been made public, this report. Of course, it's in the New York Times, but has not been made public. But members of Congress are scheduled to be briefed on it Thursday. That's today. How did the Times get it before everyone else? Some of its findings are expected to be released before Tuesday, the first anniversary of the bombings. Its contents were described by several senior American officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

12:15 Because the report has not been publicly released. This is New York Times leaking stuff and it's several American officials. Come on! No one questions this anymore. Oh sure, that makes sense. It's not because of great reporting. There's no guy with a hat and a press card sticking in the rim of his hat like, hey, get a call in the middle of the night, say, hey, we got something. You need to run this. Exactly. Yeah. I figured out the NASA thing. So everyone was reporting that NASA is cutting all ties with Russia.

12:58 Except for the International Space Station, which is the only tie they have with Russia and I could not find anything It as it turns out they did meant they did write an announcement on Google plus of all places So not on their official website not on Twitter not on Facebook, but on Google plus that's weird Yeah, and when you look at the actual statements, because I also have an internal email from NASA which is a little different, which makes it kind of interesting. A statement regarding suspension of some NASA activities with Russian government representatives. Now listen to the wording. Given Russia's ongoing violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. That's quite a statement from NASA.

13:49 NASA is suspending the majority of its ongoing engagements with the Russian Federation. NASA and the Roscosmos will, however, continue to work together to maintain safe and continuous operation of the International Space Station. Well then what's the point? We should pull out of the space station! Well, you got dudes up there. NASA is laser-focused on a plan to return human spaceflight launches to American soil. and end our reliance on Russia to get into space. You see what's happening here? Now these guys just delivered their 17 billion dollar budget to Congress and they're using this to

14:29 I guess get more money to return to our own space missions and not relying on other countries. What's that statement about never let a crisis go to waste? Ram Emanuel, never let a good crisis go to waste. Exactly. Yeah, that's what they're doing. And this is a crisis we can horn in on. NASA's got nothing to do with any of this, but we can horn in on this. But the actual internal NASA email which I've received from several American intelligence sources who are unnamed because if they were not authorized to give this to me That's a given Russia's ongoing violent what sounds about right given Russia's ongoing violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity until further notice comma that was not in the official release and

15:16 The US government has determined that all NASA contacts with Russian government representatives are suspended unless the activity has been specifically accepted. By who? Yeah, let's not say. This suspension includes NASA travel to Russia and visits by Russian government representatives to NASA facilities, bilateral meetings, email, teleconferences or video conferences. Oh no email. Everybody was like, At the present time, only operational International Space Station activities have been accepted. In addition, multilateral meetings held outside of Russia that may include Russian participation are not precluded under the present guidance. If desired, our office will assist in communication with Russian entities regarding this suspension of activities. Specific questions regarding the implementation of this guidance can be directed to Mrs. Meredith McKay.

16:11 We remain in close contact with the Department of State and other US government departments and agencies Which means Department of State if the situation changes further guidance will be disseminated It's a little different in the in the official email, but it's big They feel as big internally at NASA and they all feel that it's being used You know there for an agenda to I guess get Elon Musk more money That seems to be the prime the prime but it ends up. Yeah now along with this another email from one of our producers. I'll just read this because I hadn't read the prelude to this. Adam, about a month or so ago I sent you a note about a classmate of mine that is a trade negotiator for the EPA and the assertion she made to me that the TTIP, that's the European Free Trade Agreement, had nothing to do with liquid natural gas but rather was predominantly about property rights.

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

TTIP, Liquid Natural Gas, and European Trade Negotiations

A trade negotiator for the EPA reportedly revealed that the focus of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) shifted dramatically following the Russian annexation of Crimea. While previously centered on property rights, the discussions are now almost entirely focused on liquid natural gas (LNG) exports and distribution. This shift highlights the geopolitical importance of energy independence for Europe.

ttip· epa· liquid natural gas· crimea· property rights

17:05 Your response, in keeping with the most recent podcast, was that government employees are deliberately kept compartmentalized so that no one person has the whole picture and can root out the high-level strategy. Yeah, I think that's usually the way it goes. Well, imagine my surprise Friday morning when she came into class, saw me, immediately ran up to me saying, ooh, ooh, Brian, I have to tell you something. Oh, that's almost like a Stewie. Ooh, ooh, Brian, I have to tell you something. According to her, the TTIP discussions in which she is involved have changed completely since Russia invaded Crimea. It is now 100% about liquid natural gas exports, who's going to get what volume, when, pricing, distribution, you name it.

17:49 Well, isn't that interesting? Isn't that interesting? Gee, we never hear anybody condemn any of these analyses, right? Never. And then they always have to come back, you know, you guys were right. Well, I mean... Six months later... That's all right. That's all right. Yeah. Oh, guess who we had dinner with? Obama. No. No. He had dinner with Joe and his partner Shannon from Healthy Surprise, from the Healthy Surprise box. Oh, he just sent another box out with no note in it. I know. I got the box the day after we had dinner. Yeah, he used to write a friendly little note, but now the company's got so big, nothing. Yeah, now they're rolling in the dough.

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

Healthy Surprise, Paleo Diets, and the "Douchebag" Aesthetic

The hosts recount a dinner with Joe and Shannon from the subscription service Healthy Surprise, discussing the company's growth and the "Burning Man" aesthetic of the founders. The conversation pivots to a critique of modern grooming trends, specifically the "stubble-ized" beard look popularized by tech figures and celebrities. They also mention the popularity of the Paleo diet among certain demographics in Los Angeles and Austin.

healthy surprise· joe· shannon· paleo diet· grooming

18:37 He has those new stickers. What is it? Gluten is evil. Did you see those in the box? No, I just opened the box yesterday. So when you think about Joe, what visual do you get from this guy? What do you think he looks like? Okay, here's what I think. He's tall with one of the douchebag beard type. It was kind of a trimmed beard all around and full around his face and kind of a mop top. That's one, let me give you the other. Okay. Kind of a short pudgy bald guy. Okay, do you have a third version or is that it? No, I got that's the only choice. Honestly, I somehow had kind of like a... He's in California, he's in Los Angeles. Oh, you think it's surfer dude? No, I had kind of a corporate kind of guy in mind. You know, a little corporate. I never got that impression. Yeah, so he's a total burning man guy.

19:37 And he has a, you know, he doesn't have a douchebag beard and a mop top. He has kind of the kabuki hair tied in the back. Oh! With a knot? Yeah, good looking guy. And his girlfriend is... Is he clean shaven? Yeah. No, stubble eyes, but it's okay. Ah, stubble, see? That's what I meant. His girl is Shannon. She's a doll. She's fantastic. Yeah, she's the one, by the way, Shannon, it's the women who are behind that douchebag look. Now it's time to give you a story. So, Aaron, who is married to Jolie O'Dell. Yes.

20:15 He has one of those douchebag, uh, trimmed, uh, you know, Tom Merritt has one. You know, everyone knows what we're talking about. This used to be the Don Johnson look and somehow it turned into douchebag. Well, it's because many of the people who, you know, it's a certain look. You see it all over the place. Are they still using the Don Johnson Braun razors? I don't know. I keep forgetting to ask people how they trim it. How do you do that? Some trimmer that leaves like a guess what an eighth of an inch of stubble. Yeah. So it's stubble-ized. Aaron mentions that she's, Julie's on the show one just some time ago, she likes her men to have the beard. That was her idea. Yeah, hello. She needs a beard. And then Aaron shaved it off once in one other show and she was mad at him. And he had to grow it back. Yeah, well some women need a beard. That's all I can say about Julie O'Dell.

21:16 Yeah, well you brought it up. Yeah, I did I walked right into this you did right into it I was like walking into a prop anyway So let me let me just tell you about Joe good So he want he really wants to move to Austin, but he can't because of his new venture Okay. Yeah, he's in California now. Oh He's in Los Angeles. What is he doing in Austin? There's a paleo conference and Shannon... The paleo diet. Yeah, and Shannon has this... She has a company called Give Us the Dirt and she does natural toothpaste and lip balm and it's gluten-free, paleo and dirt. Buzzkill Jr.'s wife is paleo. Well, she must be cute then.

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Jambo Superfoods, Cannabis Edibles, and Paleo Marketing

A new venture called Jambo Superfoods is launching a line of cannabis-infused "superfood" edibles that are paleo, gluten-free, and use non-refined sugars. The hosts discuss the marketing of weed-infused products as health supplements and the inherent contradictions in "non-refined" sugar claims. They predict the product will be highly successful due to the lack of healthy alternatives in the current edibles market.

jambo superfoods· cannabis· edibles· gluten-free· superfood

22:06 She what? She must be cute. She is cute. Yeah, paleo girls are cute. They look a little hungry. Anyway, so his new product, which I've seen this guy and he's here today, he's gonna be a millionaire tomorrow. Organic Jambo, J-A-M-B-O, cannabis superfood. I don't think he has a website yet for it. Oh, here it is. JamboSuperfoods.com. You know, he's been listening to the show, he's like, yeah, superfood, that's the ticket. He's making a weed cake and calling it Jambo Cannabis Superfood.

23:00 Paleo, non-refined sugars, gluten-free, and guaranteed to blow your mind. How do you do a non-refined sugar, I'd ask him that. I don't know. You can't. Just chunked, what would you do? What would you have, beets? If it's from beets, you gotta refine it. If it's from cane, you gotta refine it. You gotta put it in a pot and boil it. That's the least you can do. That's kind of part of the refining process. I don't know. I don't know. There's no such thing. You can't go pick sugar off a tree. No, I don't know. Look, I mean, even maple syrup, you have to boil it down. Believe me, people who are eating this do not care.

23:36 Yeah, they just put up with all this. And here's the recommendation for the serving. Start with half and increase as you become comfortable. Whoa, the room's spinning, man. Superfood! You ate too much. Start with half until you're comfortable stoned out of your gourd. Food time! I said this is the best idea I've seen ever because if you think about it, you stay sober doing it. But seriously, edibles, it's always brownies, chocolate chip cookie or gummy bears. There's no... Well, they have the lollipops in Holland. Yeah, but there's no healthy, paleo, gluten-free, hippie version and here it is.

24:20 Yeah, it's a winner. And he calls it a superfood. Hello, come on. Yeah, no, I like the superfood moniker. You keep using it, it'll eventually mean nothing. That's what the idea is. Anyway, it is of course by presidential proclamation National Equal Pay Day today. As you know, that is right in line with the president's signing of some bogative bill which backfired, blew up in his face. It was quite funny. I don't know if you followed any of that. No, I did not follow any of that. So we have already been tracking for a while these blanket statements. The first one I think came from Sheryl Sandberg and it was 66% of women do 90% of all the work and get 30% of the pay or something like that, right? So what happened now is, you know, the president has been running around saying women only make 77 cents to each male dollar.

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

National Equal Pay Day, White House Salary Disparities

President Obama marked National Equal Pay Day by citing the statistic that women earn 77 cents for every dollar earned by men. However, an analysis of White House staff salaries shows a median income for women at 88% of men's earnings, which Press Secretary Jay Carney defended by citing differences in experience and roles. CBS News reported that when adjusted for the same variables, the national pay gap shrinks to approximately 5 to 7 cents.

equal pay day· barack obama· jay carney· cbs news· labor department

25:19 And... People have a 77% job, that's the difference. Well, there's a whole bunch of differences. You know, of course, if you... There's people look at minimum wage but not necessarily maximum wage. And of course, there are more male CEOs who make, you know, 15 billion dollars a year and those are counted too. So there's a lot of things... It's statistics. You can make it work any way you want. But the most unfortunate thing that a couple of studies came out and everyone picked up on it including you know well CBS who of course have been a little weird with presidential propaganda and two things came out of this study one is that if you really look at the numbers the way the president looks at his own White House it would be more like 93 cents

26:06 to a hundred cents on the dollar which is a lot closer than 77 but of course the damning thing is is that within the own his own administration women only make 88 cents and and spokesholder Carney goes out and say well Though at least we're not as bad as the national average. Well, good morning. The White House is getting, as you indicated, Nora, roughed up by its own pay equity rhetoric. An analysis of White House salaries, which nobody here disputes, shows that the median income of female staffers is 88% of that of male staffers. Now, this study also showed that men and women with the same White House jobs earned exactly the same salary. Now, the White House said its gender pay gap is tied to job experience, education, and hours worked, among other factors.

26:50 This matters because those explanations, according to the Labor Department, explain a good deal of the gender pay gap nationally. The big difference in these stories, when President Obama discusses this issue nationally, he doesn't mention those other work variables, only the broad figure that 77 cents per dollar is what women earn compared to men in median wages. When the factors that the White House used to defend its gender pay gap are used nationally, the Labor Department says the difference in median wages between men and women shrinks to about 5 cents to 7 cents on the dollar. So that's the intelligent CBS version. Then we have the response from Facebook.com slash Carol CNN. Now, this question that you raised, Carol, goes to a very real political problem for this White House. They're sort of trying to move on to other topics here with the midterms coming up and talking about these women's issues, but yet here they have a rollout of an issue of equal pay. It didn't quite work out the way they had intended.

27:48 Christine, were you gonna say something? Because I'm stunned by his answer. I'm stunned! I'm stunned! Really? I guess they haven't done their advertising purchase yet. They haven't done their buy on CNN, so everyone's stunned. Yeah, that would be right. Alright, well, I didn't know that, but wasn't following it the same way. You know, really, it's not that important. It's just an executive order. It's not like a big thing. We did get another presidential proclamation, National Former Prisoner of War Recognition Day. I'm not sure what that's about. Well, I do, but okay. And then the White House has announced America's Preparathon.

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America's Preparathon, FEMA, and Emergency Resilience

The White House announced "America's Preparathon," a national campaign scheduled for April 30th to increase community resilience through hazard-specific drills and discussions. The initiative focuses on group exercises for disasters like hurricanes but notably lacks mention of amateur radio integration. One host jokes about his own lack of preparedness and the difficulty of writing a guide for the event.

america's preparathon· fema· emergency preparedness· hurricane· drills

26:50 This matters because those explanations, according to the Labor Department, explain a good deal of the gender pay gap nationally. The big difference in these stories, when President Obama discusses this issue nationally, he doesn't mention those other work variables, only the broad figure that 77 cents per dollar is what women earn compared to men in median wages. When the factors that the White House used to defend its gender pay gap are used nationally, the Labor Department says the difference in median wages between men and women shrinks to about 5 cents to 7 cents on the dollar. So that's the intelligent CBS version. Then we have the response from Facebook.com slash Carol CNN. Now, this question that you raised, Carol, goes to a very real political problem for this White House. They're sort of trying to move on to other topics here with the midterms coming up and talking about these women's issues, but yet here they have a rollout of an issue of equal pay. It didn't quite work out the way they had intended.

27:48 Christine, were you gonna say something? Because I'm stunned by his answer. I'm stunned! I'm stunned! Really? I guess they haven't done their advertising purchase yet. They haven't done their buy on CNN, so everyone's stunned. Yeah, that would be right. Alright, well, I didn't know that, but wasn't following it the same way. You know, really, it's not that important. It's just an executive order. It's not like a big thing. We did get another presidential proclamation, National Former Prisoner of War Recognition Day. I'm not sure what that's about. Well, I do, but okay. And then the White House has announced America's Preparathon.

28:41 Ooh, a Preparathon. Yes, first. I want to get in on that. Well, it's April 30th, first day of, yeah. Soon. And let's see, I'm sure they have all, so this is America's Preparathon. It's a nationwide community-based campaign for action to increase emergency preparedness and resilience through hazard-specific drills, group discussions. Oh my gosh, it's a hurricane. Let's have a let's chat. A group discussion. And exercises conducted at the national level. And of course, I'm sure they have all kinds of stuff in here about ham radios. You should. No, they don't. Not a word. This, this, maybe I should try and get in on this. If I could get my giblet ready by April 30th. You'll never make it. No, I haven't even, I've written an outline. Introduction. That's it.

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Common Core, Kindergarten Math, and Teacher Scripting

Three teachers testified before Congress regarding the negative impacts of the Common Core curriculum, specifically criticizing the "scripted" nature of lessons. One teacher described kindergarten math requirements that include advanced vocabulary like "isosceles triangles" and "rhombuses" which she argues are developmentally inappropriate. The hosts discuss the shift toward abstract math concepts at the pre-K and kindergarten levels.

common core· arne duncan· math curriculum· kindergarten· the blaze

29:41 The John C. Dvorak School of Book Publishing. So I ran into a couple interesting things that were off these main topics. There's, and this I'll admit where it came from, I'm kind of sorry I had to go there. But it was from the blaze. They had these women who, these three teachers who had gone before Congress and had testified against Common Core. Oh really? Yeah, and one of them was very interesting and she went on the blaze not with Glenn Beck but with one of the other shows and I started talking about some of the stuff and it was actually kind of very entertaining and interesting because when you when you heard the whole story from her You got it the it was like pretty disgusting what's going on and then apparently they're trying to shut these women up What was the what was the session they were testifying in?

30:41 I don't know what specific session was but it had to do with something, it wasn't the educational hearings. Was Arne Duncan there, the education secretary? I don't think he was there during this particular testimony. I'm gonna have to go back and find it whatever the case was I was kind of intrigued by some of the stuff these women said but but listen to this part one and tell me you know just give me some feedback what you think she's what she thinks she's actually talking about. What made you guys think that this was the right thing to do? Well I have seen the curriculum for the we were teaching the early childhood curriculum in math and

31:19 It was so bad and we were so tied to the lessons. They were teacher scripted, student scripted. It would say T says this, S says this. If you don't get the right response, then T says this. And they weren't developmentally appropriate. They were not written by educators. And before, prior to this, the teachers actually had a say in the learning goals and we did not in this. And I've seen how inappropriate it is for young kids. For example,

31:56 They just in shapes they were wanting to teach them triangles I saw salees triangles obtuse triangles and acute triangles hexagons rhombuses Trapezoids it was just wet and quadrilaterals that was over the kids heads. They don't have the vocabulary for that and then instead of using and manipulatives to teach those lessons and we have tons of manipulatives. They wanted them to cut the shapes out of paper and a lot of those kids don't even have the fine motor skills at that age to do that. Okay, so this was a little confusing because there was a couple things that happened. First of all she's talking about some

32:38 Common core, but sounded like a play where everyone had lines to read and then the teacher had a script and the students had a script. Yes, what sounds like and I was and but then she went into this Stuff that I don't understand either She's talking about she lost me after triangles Like Romulans, I have no idea what you're talking about. What's interesting about this? Trapezoid I was trying to figure out what she what she talking about in the giveaway was in clip to And so they might take a five and put it in a circle and then they put it and this is a kindergarten level it gets way more complicated and then they draw a line and they have another circle line. What? Hold on! Are you telling me that the government has moved this ugly head into kindergarten? No we're in pre-k what are you talking about? This is nothing. They're trying to teach kids they're making kids use scissors and cut things out and then they're they're

33:38 I think it was script and then they're running this crappy math where you get to five with his you know we've talked about that math before. In fact I think I think they're teaching the kids to run with scissors in kindergarten that seems to be the general plan. Hey kid, run around with this. Yeah yeah I guess. I mean we know that the whole plan is birth to five was to start off with in New York City and that's being funded pre-k. And by the way, I saw I just while I was doing this I decided I do this every time I put my clips together I look at what clips I had last year Because I have yet to sort out the main file and they're right next to each other. Let me take a look Play the clip this from last year. This is one of Obama's people I can't remember who it was we talked about it But play the clip from last year who do the kids belong to and this is from exactly one year ago. Yep exactly we have

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Critical Thinking, MSNBC, and the War on Religion

The hosts analyze a pro-Common Core advertisement on YouTube that emphasizes "deeper thinking" over factual knowledge. They argue that the term "critical thinking" is being used as a meme to marginalize religious parents who oppose the new educational standards. The discussion suggests that the government is using educational policy and climate change rhetoric to frame dissenters as "religious nuts."

msnbc· common core· critical thinking· climate change· religion

34:30 if everybody's responsibility and not just the households, then we start making better investments. And was this not an MSNBC lean forward lean in promo if I'm recalling correctly? Yeah, I think so. It was one of those MSNBC things. That's funny because... And notice how she used the word better investments. It's always, you know, these anti-capitalists seem to use these capitalistic terms. It's all about investing in the kids and making sure the kids are good workers as we move forward. Here's a

35:20 An ad that is currently a pre-roll on YouTube which we captured. This year has been phenomenal for my daughter as far as the new common core. And by the way listen to the douchebag kid who put a little quick little line in the middle of this. I see the deeper thinking. I want a little bit more broad with that idea. Knowing facts is not necessarily. Did you hear it? I couldn't understand it but it sounded like he was, it sounded like a Silicon Valley thing. Exactly, the kid, exactly, the kid's like, I want a little bit more broader with that idea. He's totally, he's ready, like Microsoft can hire him now. This year has been phenomenal for my daughter. As far as the new Common Core, I see the deeper thinking. Notice the new Common Core. These are all very, very subtle tricks.

36:08 To make you believe that it's been around forever. The new Common Core. No, Common Core is new. That is a great, great catch. Yeah, I just heard it now quite honestly. Absolutely. Yeah, it's the new Common Core. As far as the new Common Core, I see the deeper thinking. I want a little bit more broad with that idea. skills that our kids are learning through the Common Core. Now here's what I'm seeing happening. So, you know, so this is knowing facts is not, and by the way, since when did we now all of a sudden facts are not important? Everything has to be fact, fact, fact, check, fact, but oh, we have to understand and rationalize it. Here's an important thing that is, I think this is how it's going to play out.

37:06 Before you go on, yeah, that's another good observation. Discard facts. How does that play out with anything that's going on right now? A science fact. Yeah. So the way I think this plays out is another meme you'll hear is critical thinking and this is a callback to Something that popped up in, I think it was a Texas school policy document, maybe you recall from probably the 2012 elections, where, and it was a Republican document or something like that, and it said, you know, we don't want our kids, no critical thinking. It got turned around into essentially, here's the meme, you're either Common Core or you're a religious freak.

37:58 That's essentially what it's coming down to. And it's really this war on religion is very, very, very dangerous. And it's also, I can't justify it. I can't justify this. The government is supposed to stay out of that. This is an end run. This is a sneak attack. We can't do this directly. But we can do it with climate change, so everybody, you know, you're just a religious nut if you think, oh, you don't, you're a climate change denier? Oh, probably because you think the year, the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Right. They do, they make these assertions. Yeah, so you're a religious nut. Short circuit any real debate. I don't want to cut your common core short, but I do have some other stuff that

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Silicon Valley, Mike Judge, and Tech Culture Satire

The new HBO show "Silicon Valley" by Mike Judge is reviewed, with the hosts praising its accurate, if painful, depiction of tech industry "douchebags." They highlight scenes involving awkward corporate parties with Kid Rock and the absurdity of tech incubators. While one host finds it difficult to watch due to its realism, they acknowledge Judge's talent for satirizing the "making the world a better place" trope.

silicon valley· mike judge· hbo· kid rock· tech culture

38:47 ties into it. You have a couple more? Did we finish this clip? Well actually before I go back to the comment car which I do have a couple more things which kind of ties into what you just said let's take another side trip because you mentioned that kid he sounded like a Silicon Valley douchebag and he's only what five six seven eight? I want to go a little bit broader than that yeah with my stock options. So the show Silicon Valley. Oh we watched So I have a couple of clips from it. This is essentially, it's actually if you're in and around the valley, I found it very hard to watch because it's so disgusting with douchebags. It's just all a douchebag show. And this is a Mike Judd show who of course is famous for... Mike Judd in office space of course. And Beavis and Butthead. And Beavis and Butthead. And he, I actually ended up watching the episode three times. I finally, now I'm relaxed with it. I actually like what he's trying to do but I do have two clips

39:40 which are like that kid. Now the first clip is the opening clip. Some guy had made 200 million dollars and now he's living it up. And he's having Kid Rock at his house give a party to a bunch of people who don't care. Some of that was very recognizable by the way. Yes, no, we've all seen it. You and I have seen many of these events. And so the guy, the douchebag owner of the company that was sold to Google, like many of these guys, decides to get on the microphone and congratulate himself and tell everybody what a great guy he is, what a great company he is. And this is actually what it sounds like when somebody does this.

40:19 That Mickey and I looked each other like yeah, we've been to those parties Some douchebag does that at his own party. I got seven words for you. I love coolie bibs integrated multi-platform functionality But seriously You know, a few days ago when we were sitting down with Barack Obama, I turned to these guys and said, okay, you know, we're making a lot of money. And yes, we're disrupting digital media. But most importantly, we're making the world a better place through constructing elegant hierarchies for maximum code reuse and extensibility. So everyone, here's to many more nights just like this one. Take it away my good friend, Kid Rock!

41:22 What now so we watch this and I'm laughing a little more than I did when I watched it No, that's what the that's the typical Mike judge stuff. It's really in your face It takes some getting used to what he's gonna what he's up to but what is he up to? What is the point? He is just gonna ridicule it did I think this you have to always remember the pilot is the softest and All the episodes and he's done the set it was a sales. Yeah, okay item yeah, so I don't know but I think he's just gonna go so deeply after these guys that someone's gonna kill him, but Don't I just play this shorter clip which is the second clip from the show where this guy who's a? Unbelievable douchebag running an incubator. He's never really done anything. He sold one company He always wears t-shirts, and this is the way he talks to some kid pitching a stupid idea

42:14 And that's how I got to where I am. So, what do you got? Okay, here it is. Bit Soup. It's like alphabet soup, but it's ones and zeros instead of the letters. Because it's binary you know binaries just ones and yeah, I know what binary is Jesus Christ I memorized the hexadecimal time tables when I was 14 writing machine code Okay, ask me what 9 times F is it's 75 75 Yeah, okay. It's yeah, it's deep but still I don't think there's a huge audience for this Mickey is into every she'll watch almost anything

43:01 except horror movies. She can't watch a horror movie because she gets into this stuff. She's a method actor. She really engrosses herself and she believes it's all real. So we wind up watching a lot of movies on movie night with the women who die of terminal cancer. This is not fun, movie night here at the Travis Heights hideout. But she couldn't, even though she knows these people, she couldn't get into it. And I agree. I just don't see it having a big audience. You know, it's not like Entourage where it's all inside baseball, but at least you everyone understands celebrities, you know Well, it'll be remain to be seen whether it can be successful. He may only go 13 shows or seven, right? But whatever the case is he definitely has a lot of these characters nailed Yeah, although they're a little bit, you know, I'm looking for

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Venture Capital, Intelligence Agencies, and the Skype Acquisition

A theory is presented suggesting that intelligence agencies use venture capital to "acqui-hire" and neutralize technologies that threaten government surveillance, such as encrypted email. The hosts discuss eBay's 2005 purchase of Skype, led by Pierre Omidyar, as a potential example of a bungled acquisition that eventually led to Microsoft's involvement. They argue that many promising privacy tools are intentionally shelved by VC firms with ties to the NSA.

venture capital· nsa· skype· ebay· pierre omidyar

43:55 Yeah, I'm looking for the John door. You know those guys will be later. I'm sure we'll see we'll see the Randy Komas ours You know the doors and chromosomes and those guys in their style I mean it be touches on a little bit with the two guys that are bidding for this kids product the Peter Omidar guy Piers that's pure drive my car. He is totally that is him because he's Offered the money to kids not to go to school. No no no that's Peter Thiel I I thought it was Omidar. No, Thiel. Okay, well then that's Peter Thiel. One character. And the other character is, I don't know, some sort of nutcase Steve Jobs or someone, some mystic. Interesting you bring this up. I was watching a... Now what the heck was this? This was a speech by, I think, a Swedish guy or... Anyway, he was talking about something called... He was doing a keynote speech and he was explaining how

44:56 the intelligence community, which has these huge billion dollar budgets, how we were really focusing on the wrong things. So yeah, you know, there's, of course they have surveillance, but, and then, you know, apparently they bribe someone to plant bugs into SSL. All of that's totally possible, but he says what's really going on is venture capital. So you have a lot of these angel guys, these venture guys, They'll find something they'll find a product which maybe is not so good for the intelligence community makes it harder for you know someone to to listen in so maybe a Program that does great email and you know with built-in encryption just as an example and these guys will either go out and find a patent that is very similar and sue them out of existence or

45:49 Or the VC guys will give him like half a million dollars and you'll never hear from the company again. And he says that this is rampant, that this is going on everywhere when really good products, not the bull crap that Facebook buys for selfies, but the stuff that could actually improve our lives and privacy, that these are being taken out by all these little angel VC guys. And he said, look at what happened with Skype. We said eBay, who of course are big friends of the NSA, they bought Skype but they bungled the purchase. They screwed it up. They didn't get the goods. They didn't get the algorithm and all the stuff on the back end. So then they had to bring in Microsoft to do it. And when you think about how weird that acquisition was by eBay in the first place, oh what we're now going to need Skype to buy PEZ dispensers?

46:44 Yeah, the rationale was weak too. The rationale was, oh, the buyers and sellers are going to want to talk to each other. Right. And thus they're going to use Skype to do it. Yeah. And that, as far as I can tell, I've never seen an offer on eBay where somebody even offered to, wanted to talk on the phone. But now here's the round robin. Who runs eBay? Exactly. Who? Pierre, drive my car. Oh yeah, yeah. There's your round robin, you see? This is how it works. They come in and they buy the stuff, either they get a patent that's just like it and license that temporarily and screw these guys out of existence or much easier, just take the guy out, give the guy a million bucks, it's called a acquihire, and it's just gone. Well, that smacks a little bit of the discussion about the pill that turns a barrel full of water into gasoline logic.

47:49 And so I'm not completely, you know, convinced that some of these, that this is going on to any extreme. I'm sure there's a few technologies out there that have been shelved because it's competitive. Anti-competitive behavior seems to be what people do mostly as opposed to anti, you know, somebody trying to end run the government. I just want everyone out there to know that I'm willing to entertain a couple million dollars with Dave Jones there for the Freedom Controller. You can take us out anytime you want. Yeah, you should have been offered money by now if you base that on that theory. I think we have 14 users. I don't think... All these products is a problem. Well, no, it's great. We're using it for our show. It's fantastic. The Skype thing, by the time anyone noticed it in this country, I had seen it in Europe because everyone was on it. Those guys were in Amsterdam. They were doing this stuff and we hung out with them a little bit back in the...

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

VoIP Surveillance, GPG Encryption, and Glenn Greenwald

The hosts discuss the vulnerability of modern VoIP services and the difficulties of managing GPG encryption keys, noting that fake keys can be used to intercept messages. They reference a leaked email exchange between attorney Jesslyn Raddick and journalist Glenn Greenwald regarding a potential appearance by Edward Snowden. The conversation touches on the technical hurdles that make secure communication difficult for the average user.

voip· skype· gpg· glenn greenwald· jesslyn raddick

48:46 in the Jambi days. This is 2000. That was way before it came over to the United States and became popular and all of a sudden everyone said, well look at this, it sounds good. And then you had all these clones come out, Google Talk and all these guys trying to do the Microsoft Messenger. Well this has always been the issue according to this guy and I'll post a link to his talk in the show notes. He's saying the one thing that has always been retarded by the intelligence services is VoIP. They've always wanted to, you know, what is this, what is the protocol SIP? We know one thing about SIP. It sucks balls. It's the worst thing ever. It doesn't work. They've, you know, it's just shit. And the only thing that was really good was Skype.

49:28 And now everything runs through the Microsoft servers. Everything can be decrypted, everything can be turned around and under, that's the only reason for Microsoft to have it. And I'm sure they're making money on selling whatever they need to to the intelligence community. And of course they're coming out with a new version of Skype for professionals. Oh really? You haven't heard this? Skype something, Skype XP or something. Will it work? For the broadcasters. Really? It's going to be extremely expensive. Really? Well, we should look into that. I'm looking into it. I'm on the mailing list to get the first announcement when they finally price it. And meanwhile, I'm sure you followed the Jesselyn Raddick emails with Grenn Greenwalth. Not really. So this is a... it kind of played out a little bit like

50:22 Encryption on email doesn't work. By the way, just to take your thing and fractalize it, the idea you take people out, I think Greenwall has been taken out. Oh yeah. Precisely. Well yeah, no this is a good example of, essentially sold out, I mean Pierre, what's his name, gives your supposedly promises 250 million dollars for this horrible website that is just a piece of crap and it's just it's just words i mean he's never put in 200 it's not like a bank account somewhere the grand greenwell shop don't rap Has a debit card for. Yeah and Greenwald's now out of the picture essentially except for his little spats he has. What was this one you're talking about? Well, so this is Jesslyn Raddick who claims to be Snowden's lawyer. But there's a couple of people who claim to be his lawyer. Is this the one with the speech impediment? Yes. Yes, that's the one. The one who talks a little like this? I am the lawyer. But she's kind of hot.

51:23 I use a lot of makeup. But then she talks kind of weird out of the side of her face. So an email was intercepted and decrypted which she sent with the PG, I think GPG, not PGP, GPG. And the reason why, and this actually happened to me, if you look at the MIT key server, the public key server, there's four or five different keys for Grand Green Route. Actually, if you look at my, if you search for my name, you'll also see a couple of different keys. One of them is a fake key. So what happens with, on the, you know, key management is one of the hard parts of encryption. You know, anyone, people are stupid. They can't, you know, they can't even keep their house key.

52:04 So you have a fake key? Someone put it up there. Yeah, so they can collect your messages. So yeah, so if you have one of these programs that just automatically searches and you say, oh it's the top one click and that's it, you don't really look at what it's saying. And this has happened to me where someone said, oh I sent you an email but you didn't get it. And I said, what key did you use? And it was this fake key. And of course I have no way to get it off. So it's an issue. So this happened. Wow, that is... It's a problem. I never even thought, yeah that's a horrible issue. And so the email that comes in, which is also kind of funny, was uh, hi Glenn, congrats on the McGill award! I look forward to seeing you at Polk's. On that note, is my client making a surprise appearance? BG said you mentioned this to him at the Polk Media event. We presume that's Barton Gelman.

52:55 I won't tell anyone including BG if it's a surprise but as his attorney I'd like to know and also what medium would be used Google or BeanBot. Thanks Jess. This kind of shows you the... that whole email exchange made me a little... it's finding it creepy. Now maybe that's just her. I don't know if Greenwalt is... has that creepy kind of syrupy talk with her. But it's kind of funny that this was intercepted. And of course, his whole email threads on Kryptome and Applebaum jumps in. This guy is another annoying piece of crap. He's like a pimple on my butt. He's always like, this is... That's exactly how he... That's all he does. When he opens his pie hole.

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

The Intercept, Editorial Standards, and Glenn Greenwald's Writing

The hosts critique the output of "The Intercept" and Glenn Greenwald's recent work, suggesting that his writing has suffered without the heavy editing he received at The Guardian and Salon. They observe a lack of new Snowden revelations and speculate that Greenwald may have been "taken out" by a high-paying contract from Pierre Omidyar's First Look Media. The discussion characterizes his recent articles as long-winded and poorly organized.

the intercept· glenn greenwald· the guardian· first look media· journalism

53:51 So yeah, he's there with the First Look Media crew, and if we go look at The Intercept, and I'm looking at it right now, the last time he published was April 4th. It was the Cuban Twitter scam, which wasn't even his story. No. And then before that it was the 31st of March, and that was the NSA blows its own top secret program in order to propagandize. I don't even know what that was about. I always get the sense that, well I've said this, we talked about this on email, I'm just coming to the conclusion that it's possible that Greenwald actually can't write. Or can't write well. Yeah, that's a good point you made. And all his stuff, because he was at the salon for a while and that's when I started following him because I liked his stuff.

54:46 And he's a little long-winded, but it's possible that he had heavy editing there. And then when he went to the Guardian, I know he had editing there because you're not working for one of those papers without two or three layers of editors. I've written for the New York Times and it's like the kind of editing they do there is almost, it's, I don't know how people can work there. It's very unbearable. I mean any new word you use they got to approve it at different layers of the company. It's astonishing how much work goes into these articles. So it's possible that Greenwald, you know, was heavily edited and the giveaway to that may be, and I could be wrong, you know, somebody could prove this wrong. I don't notice in his Twitter feed or anything that he's writing eloquently, but it's if

55:30 A guy usually is bringing in a lot of money for the company, he's getting a lot of attention for the publication like Greenwald was doing there for a while with The Guardian and he walks to some place else, they counter offer and they make a big deal about it and they will overpay to an extreme. particularly the Guardian, I'm sure. It's an intelligence operation. They got money to spend. Yeah, so they could drop a lot of money on him. By that I mean $750-$1 million a year as a columnist. Which I'm sure is what he's making. Could be. Of course, he's all about the money. I'm sure he's making that kind of money. Whatever the case is, that was never done, which makes me think that

56:10 Because of his whatever his capabilities are somebody along the lines You know is one of those deals where they're going around this circle and why guess why take a chance at the end But what somebody along the line said you know the guy's more trouble than he's worth He was too much work. We've got too many people working on his stuff and blah blah blah They just let him slide because they figured you know it was a He wasn't doing what he should be. I don't know. He was a lawyer, not a writer and it's possible that his writing is not up to par. You can say that about anybody by the way, but it seems to me that the fact there was no counteroffering and he waltzed and now the stuff he's producing is junk. And it's long. It's too long. It's long and junky. It's very difficult to read. It's poorly organized. It's not interesting. He doesn't punch it upright.

57:01 It's just not good. Hey, when they hire you, we'll know it's all over. Yeah, then you know the things I would definitely bail. But so yeah, and of course it is, it's Pierre driving my car. It's the guy who bought Skype, who screwed it up. Maybe this, oh, I'll do it right this time, boys. I'll take care of that Greenwald for good. He'll never, and by the way, where's all his stuff? Where's the Snowden stuff? Did it just dry up? It's just gone? I mean, that's another good question because he supposedly he had the entire Snowden files. He had all of them and he was careful not to carry them around and he got I guess additional stuff when his boyfriend came plowing back into the country and got stopped in England when he didn't have to really go through England.

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Laura Poitras, Jeremy Scahill, and First Look Media

The hosts analyze the roles of Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill within First Look Media, questioning their lack of recent journalistic output. They speculate that Poitras may have a background in intelligence and that the entire organization serves to contain the Snowden files. The segment suggests that these high-profile journalists have been effectively neutralized by their new corporate structure.

laura poitras· jeremy scahill· first look media· the intercept· espionage

57:48 as we discussed. Yeah, no I know I'm now wondering if that whole thing was just bullcrap. So check this out, here's Greenhalgh, here's his, March 1st, on the meaning of journalistic independence, this is in response to the Pando article, which was funny, Paul Card, you know, you're a douche but you're kind of a hero-y dude, a douche with a cape, Then March 4th, RT host Abby Martin condemns Russian incursion into Crimea on RT. Really? Then 6 days later, The Intercept welcomes its new editor and two new writers, editor-in-chief John Cook, who was at Gawker. Then 13 days later, that's two weeks!

58:36 Yeah, without producing anything. Some facts about how NSA stories are reported, which is a response to a New York Times article, and then the 25th Obama's new NSA proposal and democratic partisan hackery. So that's just like, okay, that's just, I mean, we, and our analysis of this is better than he's putting down there. And then... I like the way he writes it in first person too. You rarely see anyone write or start unless he's writing a novel and he's playing a private detective. This is the first thing he says, I vividly recall the first time I realized just how mindlessly and uncritically supportive of President Obama many Democrats are willing to be.

59:22 We run out of breath with that sentence with the two I's in it. Well, let's look at the next one. Selecting this year's single most brazen example of political self-delusion is never easy, but if forced to choose for 2013, I'd pick British Prime Minister David Cameron's public condemnation of George Galloway. It's a lot of I's in there. Anyway, so the point is, it seems like he served his purpose. I'm thinking unfortunate self-erotic asphyxiation accident. Put it in the book! Put it in the book! These things do happen, you know. You're found... It's a good way to murder somebody and humiliate them at the same time. Yeah, you're found with a necktie, naked, with a dildo up your butt. These things happen.

1:00:08 Yeah, I'm sure there's a special team that takes care of it. There's one specialty team that takes care of it. You've heard of wet work. Well this is different. And by the way, if you find me dead in that situation, that's what I'm into. What can I say? No foul play. His longtime radio partner John C. Dvorak said, oh no, I don't suspect foul play if that's how they found him. Now if it was in the hot tub with the lid on it, okay, but no, no, no, not there, no, this is... The hot tub with the lid's a giveaway.

1:00:50 Oh wow. Yeah, and so Scahill, I think he's taken out. Poitras? Oh yeah, Scahill. Well, Poitras is still hanging in there. She's cropping up here and there. I don't think she's all in on this. Scahill's definitely... They probably gave him a pot full of money to do some other unneeded documentary. Yeah. And well, Poitras could be taken out the same way, but she seems to be a little more aggressive. I think I've always thought she was in the agency to begin with. Yeah, well we talked about this. Yeah, but we know she comes from money. Yeah, she comes from money. She's got a sketchy background and she may be a spy. So, yeah, I've noticed that she's still kind of bouncing around and she's definitely not writing articles for this intercept. I haven't seen anything by her. Uh, yeah, no, she did write something. She wrote, I think she wrote one article as she came in. Let's see. Yeah, hi, welcome to me, you know, kind of thing. Yeah, no, welcome to the intercept, February 10th. Yeah, that's it.

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Coffee Table Books, and Community Support

The hosts thank the "No Agenda" art community, specifically mentioning Martin JJ for his recent contributions to the art generator. They discuss various ways the show's art is being utilized, including a potential coffee table book and its inclusion in digital newsletters. They express gratitude for the creative work provided by the listeners to support the show's aesthetic.

no agenda art· martin jj· ibooks· newsletter· community

1:01:49 And now she's, her job, maybe she's the one responsible for setting this whole thing up. Possible. And you know, getting these guys out of the picture. She knows who the problems are. Well I've tried to clip some stuff from her, she's been on a couple of things recently. And she's boring. There's nothing interesting coming out of her. No. Well anyway, as we've been yapping away here, I do want to thank you for your courage, of course, John. And say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak! Oh yeah? Really? In the morning to you then! Adam C. Curry also in the morning all the ships to see boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the wall into dames and the Knights out there and in the morning to our artists Thank you very much. Well We actually contemplated it, but it was the best piece of art Martin JJ two in a row going for the hat trick Yeah, no agenda art generator calm. Yeah, we had a lot We had long discussions about the art and this but we always do we don't choose it cavalier well sometimes There's just one that just stunner you just pick it

1:02:49 True. There was a lot of discussion, so. It was a nice piece. And we always look forward to all submissions. There's an e-book that's available. You can find it on iBooks. I think someone's working on a coffee book, a coffee table book. There's a lot of different things that can be done with this art. And it's also pretty to look at. And you use it in the newsletters. And we really appreciate the work that goes into it. It's always a pleasure to look at what's been created. And it's even better when we choose someone and we give them credit for helping us out. And in the morning, I was going to say in the morning to the chat room, noagenestream.com, noagenestchat.net. Good to see you, Human Resources, all lined up and good to go there today. Chat room's operating.

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producers, Chemo Support, and LIFO Accounting

The hosts acknowledge new executive producers, including Alex Zoglin and Sir Jim Baron, who is currently undergoing chemotherapy. One host explains his "LIFO" (Last In, First Out) personal management style, contrasting it with the traditional "FIFO" (First In, First Out) method. They also mention an upcoming autism conference in Austin involving Sir David Dennis and Andrew Wakefield.

alex zoglin· jim baron· chemo· lifo· accounting

1:03:37 Okay, well we have three people that showed up for the executive producer ships And we'll mention the Alex Zoglin who you've talked about already and he's the one who just launched the rocket That's funny because I did not know that he had come in as an executive producer today Yeah, he came in and he's also a member of the 607 club this guy literally has money to burn. Yeah He's burning he's burning it in the sky he says He's got the links which we put in the show notes. I believe this puts me way over the top of my knighthood so long and thanks for all the fish Okay reference there to Doug Adams sir Jim Baron of Jamaica Plain at three hundred thirty three dollars and thirty three cents I started chemo Thursday all that's terrible. He would appreciate some screw cancer and karma sir Jim Barry good to make a plane and surrounding plantations ah That's

1:04:36 We met Sir Jim when we did the first Hot Pockets tour. This is, well, at least I guess he's on the chemo, so that's a start, that's the beginning. So yeah, Jim, we're looking out for you. I gave him an extra F-cancer blast. Yeah, good. It's better than the chemo. You watch. And then finally our associate executive producers David goes who? Just sent in a simple note Saying you won the bet or something there was something we agreed to and he promised he says as promised I forgot what it was it was a it was some time ago. There's also another person that's already a night though. He's a Sir, David Dennis. I think his son is also a night right yeah, yeah What was there somebody that wanted some call-out on the phone?

1:05:34 fun for tan and I for the life we can find his paperwork and he never sent a reminder and I want to tell people this just on the since was short anyway that I operate yeah where hold on a second let me get a piece of pen and a piece of paper John's gonna tell us how he operates yes I operate a certain way and it's called life oh it life oh Yeah. Oh, and how is that L I F E dash O? No, L I F O. It's an accounting. Oh, LIFO. Last in first out? Yes. Okay. I've always, this is the only way I can survive this world is by operating as a last in first out guy. And people who know me always have, always, or they get stuff to me at the last minute.

1:06:20 That's the first to come out so this is last in first out as opposed to what I should Normal people should do and they try to do and I think it's impossible to do in this Helter Skelter world Which is first in first out so if you have a bunch of projects the first one on the list is what you're supposed to do and then you go out and you work your way to the end as opposed to doing the last idea first And so if now Sir Rice that knows this I believe because when he came up with his idea of getting credit for show 606 Oh, yeah, he had this whole plan set up and then he reminded you at the last minute every single show before the show Yes, and that works. Although I did have his thing pinned up and I would have pulled it off But if I didn't it was nice to get the reminders and that's the idea. I got no reminders I haven't heard from this guy since so

1:07:08 I'm sorry, but you you get a well I do know about sir David is he is part of the big autism conference in Austin on Saturday And did you know that Andrew Wakefield lives in Austin now? the uh... is that name ring a bell he's the guy that uh... proves that autism i was related to vaccinations and then he gots completely morning rates with a with a broomstick through the media right but it turns out that the the I can't remember exactly, but I know that we looked into it and the... The British, wasn't he British? Yeah, yeah. And he completely got vilified because of some... he had paid someone to do something. He made a mistake. And that once and for all just removed the whole conversation of vaccines causing autism. But Sir David has invited me to go on Saturday. There's a number of reasons why I don't think I can go.

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Wu-Tang No Agenda Auction, Knighting Ceremony, and Donations

A private auction for a "Wu-Tang" style No Agenda video episode is announced, with the hosts explaining the secrecy behind the project. They perform a knighting ceremony for Alex Zoglin and thank other major donors like Sir Jim Baron and Sir David Goose. The segment emphasizes the "value-for-value" model and encourages listeners to propagate the show's formula.

wu-tang auction· knighting· alex zoglin· jim baron· david goose

1:08:05 But apparently all the kids are there and these kids have all turned to mush after their vaccines. And so there's a real correlation at least with these kids apparently. But you can't say that anymore in today's world because you know... You can't question. You'll be ridiculed as a religious freak. Yeah, no, I think your religious commentary there at the beginning of the show is outstanding. And I think that's exactly what you're going to do. If you don't... If you have a litany thing, that's why Common Core I believe is going to be used to push out religion. Oh, you don't like Common Core? You must be a religious freak. You don't like Common Core? You must be some sort of a Christian nutball. By the way, it only applies to Christian nutballs, not to Jews and not to Muslims. Yeah, actually one of my clips from that... Well, before we go there, let me just do one quick PR mention because we have to move on and thank everybody and do our little

1:09:09 Jingle a lot of excitement about our Wu-Tang no agenda video show auction. I you probably got no email about that, right? I think I got one. Yeah, everyone sent it to me. Okay, in fact if you go to na private auction calm or Wu-Tang auction calm I like that one. They currently redirect to noagendershow.com. Wutangauction.com, that's pretty good. And so whenever we're ready, John, whenever we are ready to lock up this one video episode where people can see with their own eyes how the LIFO works and then bid on it,

1:09:49 It's so funny how people take this really seriously. They can't see how it works. They have to bid on it first. If we show it to them, then it's obviously out there. Right. No, they can't get it until they bid on it. Yes. Yeah. And people take this very seriously. Anyway, so thank you Anonymous at 20.30 a month for 20.30. This guy's all over it for setting that up for us. And thank you to our associate executive producer Sir David Goose, executive producers Sir Jim Barron of Jamaica Plain and soon to be knighted Sir Alex Zoglin who also will be our 607 episode member and club member.

1:10:31 That doesn't happen very often. All of that is very appreciated. We'll do another show on Sunday, of course. And regardless of your donation, level and love, we always need you to propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. There we go. That's weird. We're talking today. We're not doing a lot of clips. We're just talking.

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Fort Hood Shooting, Barack Obama, and Mental Health Rhetoric

President Obama's response to the Fort Hood shooting is analyzed, specifically his focus on mental health and keeping firearms away from those with "deep difficulties." The hosts criticize the BBC for its editing of the memorial service and express concern that the "war on crazy" will be used to justify broader gun control and the targeting of political dissenters. They argue that the President only uses such tragedies for political advantage.

fort hood· barack obama· bbc· mental health· gun control

1:11:08 We're doing a lot of clips, but we're talking. Sure. I think that's a tip. Usually when you start off at the beginning of the show with a package, then we play more clips. I do have one thing I'd like to play that's kind of off. I can either do something funny, Oh by the way, this was an analysis I believe it was on Al Jazeera. Tell me you don't see some irony in this funny gun control clip. This is about Fort Hood. President citing their heroic actions, protecting their fellow soldiers as the rampage played out over eight long minutes. Mr. Obama also referred to two issues that have been raised in the wake of the tragedy, the mental health of the alleged gunman and the mental health of all returning veterans, and the call to end the ban on soldiers carrying concealed weapons while on a military base. The logic is that if they had those weapons, then the tragedy could have been stopped much sooner. Yeah, you know, this whole thing is extremely disturbing to me.

1:12:04 And it also had happened here almost in our backyard. I actually have a short clip. Well, you're disturbed by the thing that happened or you're disturbed by the notion that now they're advocating concealed carry when this is against all of the liberal thought process that involves it? Because if you that logic right there that was expressed By the way, and I never got a clip from Obama actually saying that, but that logic that was expressed right there should apply to the whole country. Yeah, I'm disturbed by the whole politicization of what happened. And really the war on crazy which is being stirred up by this, you know the president, yeah things happen but you know he has to go to Fort Hood and he has to go speak at the ceremony. When we got kids coming, I'm on planes with bodies coming from overseas. He's not there.

1:12:55 It's only when it's politically advantageous as you show up to some dead kid's funeral. Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here he is. Wow. Yeah. And the BBC. Let's write this one down. Yeah. And the BBC, yeah. And the BBC, they even, they showed, they did this package and they mixed Taps. Oh, under, I couldn't even do it. I had to cut the beginning off because they had the Taps playing and then they mixed the president while Taps was still playing, which believe me, that didn't happen. right? No one talks during taps. But they, but the BBC lies essentially by editing it this way. Yeah, so here's what the president said. As a nation we can do more. Do you hear this? This is, this by the way, BBC you are horrible people to do this. They are horrible people. And that is, you are by definition lying with your piece here. This did not happen this way. The president did not have this background track playing while he's

1:13:55 pontificating. As a nation we can do more to help counsel those with mental health issues, to keep firearms out of the hands of those who are having such deep difficulties. Now this is a very important thing what he's saying. Keep firearms out of the hands of those that are having such deep difficulties. Wow, but you know where's the knock on my door? Any day now. Yeah, Mr. Curry we heard your podcast. We think you're deeply troubled.

1:14:35 As a military we must continue to do everything in our power to secure our facilities and spare others this pain. We must honor these men by doing more to care for our fellow Americans living with mental illness, civilian and military. Yeah, alright. Yeah, they're gonna care the crap out of me. Yeah, well you know, you sound deeply disturbed. Yeah. Yeah. Did you go one of those little Tourette's tantrums you knock on the door in a minute dear now No, I'm that right there is good enough is enough. I'm sorry you have Tourette's you cannot own a firearm And you really shouldn't be around kids either or cats

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Al Sharpton, FBI Informant Allegations, and "The Cat" Defense

The Smoking Gun recently revealed that Al Sharpton served as an FBI informant in the 1980s, known as "CI-7." Sharpton defended his actions at a National Action Committee event, claiming he was cooperating with law enforcement to get guns and crime out of the community. He famously stated, "I'm a cat, not a rat," arguing that he was helping the government investigate mobsters who were exploiting black artists like James Brown.

al sharpton· fbi informant· smoking gun· national action committee· james brown

1:15:23 Yeah, we'll have to put you on the list. Yeah, I think you should be on this list we have. Oh yeah. Nah, I think I'm too old that they don't care anymore. Well that's true, at some point you're kind of grandfathered in. It's like a fence that's too close to the curb. This guy's not worth the trouble, so what? You want to kill him? No. Stop doing so much work. Who cares? These guys are hard to kill. Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who listens to these people? Did you catch this Sharpton thing? I thought this was beautiful because the guy weasels his way out instantly. So Al Sharpton, who you know on this show from... There's no real conflict! The man who

1:16:11 Yeah, and where would he also he also did the instead of skittles he said skillets I mean this is a skillet skillet douche But isn't it such a you know the guy is an obvious low IQ bonehead and he is representing NBC yeah, how did he ever get this job? Oh well apparently he's been working for the government for a long time as an informant for the FBI and and uh... this uh... for the fbi so that's that's reason enough yeah he was a former for the fbi back in the is must've been the eighties and smoking gun dot com got a hold of and what was the uh... informant number seventeen or something like that and that's a he goes to uh... on a stage there is little national action committee uh... which is uh... his uh... this is the thing that uh... he uses to uh... pressure people into giving him money

1:17:06 You know we're gonna be really annoying unless you support our nonprofit and here was his response and much to the To the glee of the people attending nothing new about this story not Banner was the one that set up the meeting with this guy said so Right there like what? Sal and Joe Banner uh-huh I've done a lot of things in life and Some that if I could do again, I would do differently. I would ask for more money. But in this situation, I did what was right. I did what I was always raised in the values of a praying mother to do. And I did what I tell kids every day all over this country.

1:17:55 that they should do. And that is deal with getting guns and crime out of their community and cooperate with the law. Now, he was an informant against some guys who were like concert promoters who were ripping off artists. But somehow he's able to spin this into he's a guy who's trying to get guns off the street. He's really, he's phenomenal. It's really quite a talent. But he's untouchable. You cannot touch the guy. If I was doing business with James Brown, I had no choice but to meet with guys who would later be alleged or earlier be alleged to be mobsters. It wasn't like I was saying, hey, I heard you was with the so-and-so family. Let's chill together. It wasn't like that.

1:18:45 Conversations were recorded and I would record them today if somebody threatened me. Rats are usually people that were with other rats. I was not and am not a rat because I wasn't with the rats. I'm a cat. I sense rats. And whether it's a rat in racial profiling or police brutality or mobsters exploiting black artists, don't get me confused. Yeah, I'm a cat not a rat and then and then he he does something and actually I'm reversing into this because Eric Holder Did something very similar in the same setting actually here He is on MSNBC on his own show and now he's allowed to apologize, but he's doing something Very tricky which is a genius by the way when you're stuck in a in a weird situation the right thing working with the parties I do

1:19:43 I didn't consider myself, quote, an informant, wasn't told I was that. I was an American citizen with every right to call law enforcement and that's the lesson I want to emphasize tonight. Forget me, I'll fight my battles. This is the one. Forget about it being me. This is a very, have you ever noticed this being used? Forget, forget, forget. Probably, but I haven't noticed it to deconstruct it. Forget it even being me. And I was starting to deconstruct this because I have to play one little thing before I give you the Holder example. So Eric Holder, Attorney General, the highest guy in justice in the land here in Gitmo Nation, was in Congress and he got into a fight with Gohmert. And so Gohmert essentially said,

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Eric Holder, Louie Gohmert, and the "Asparagus" Comment

Attorney General Eric Holder engaged in a heated exchange with Representative Louie Gohmert during a House Judiciary Committee hearing regarding the "Fast and Furious" investigation. Holder told Gohmert, "You don't want to go there, buddy," after being questioned about his contempt of Congress citation. The exchange ended with a bizarre non-sequitur from Holder about Gohmert's "asparagus," a callback to a previous legal joke.

eric holder· louie gohmert· fast and furious· contempt of congress· c-span

1:18:45 Conversations were recorded and I would record them today if somebody threatened me. Rats are usually people that were with other rats. I was not and am not a rat because I wasn't with the rats. I'm a cat. I sense rats. And whether it's a rat in racial profiling or police brutality or mobsters exploiting black artists, don't get me confused. Yeah, I'm a cat not a rat and then and then he he does something and actually I'm reversing into this because Eric Holder Did something very similar in the same setting actually here He is on MSNBC on his own show and now he's allowed to apologize, but he's doing something Very tricky which is a genius by the way when you're stuck in a in a weird situation the right thing working with the parties I do

1:19:43 I didn't consider myself, quote, an informant, wasn't told I was that. I was an American citizen with every right to call law enforcement and that's the lesson I want to emphasize tonight. Forget me, I'll fight my battles. This is the one. Forget about it being me. This is a very, have you ever noticed this being used? Forget, forget, forget. Probably, but I haven't noticed it to deconstruct it. Forget it even being me. And I was starting to deconstruct this because I have to play one little thing before I give you the Holder example. So Eric Holder, Attorney General, the highest guy in justice in the land here in Gitmo Nation, was in Congress and he got into a fight with Gohmert. And so Gohmert essentially said,

1:20:41 Wow, you know, you don't seem to think it's such a big deal about being contempt and I presume, was this Fast and Furious or Benghazi or both? I think it was, Gohmert was going after Holder a lot on Fast and Furious. Yeah. And so he, the Justice Department has not produced the documents, so he's been found in contempt. This is Fast and Furious. Yeah, and here is this little exchange that took place. Well, I think what we... And by the way, the microphone situation in Congress that is on C-SPAN, I don't know what happened, but someone thought it was funny to like put only mid-range in. Have you noticed this? All the microphones are crap. Chinese. It's Chinese mics, exactly. We got an upgrade. Well, I think what we promised to do is to provide you and your staff with

1:21:34 Sir, I've read you what your department promised and it is inadequate and I realize that contempt is not a big deal to our Attorney General but it is important that we have proper oversight. You don't want to go there. I love it. He says you don't want to go there, buddy I'm gonna go there. Is this guy a bully or you don't want to go there, buddy, buddy? I'm Eric. Oh, yeah, you hear the buddy. Yeah. No, you got it's in the background again apologies for the mic situation lies that contempt is not a big deal to our Attorney General But it is important that we have proper oversight You don't want to go there, buddy. So you don't want to go there, okay?

1:22:15 Don't want to go there. No Not very hip to the way the kids talk. I don't want to go there I Don't want to go there no about the contempt you should not assume That that is not a big deal to me. I think that it was inappropriate I think was unjust but never think that that was not a big deal to me don't ever think that well I uh... i'm just looking for evidence and normally were known by our fruits and there've been no indications that it was a big deal because your department is still not been forthcoming in producing the documents that were the subject of the content you know let me move on to the other questions that you asked about what are the uh... the documents that we were prepared to make available then we're prepared to make available now that would have obviated the whole need this was all about

1:23:11 the gun lobby and i desire to have a so we've been trying to get to the bottom of fast and furious where people died where at least a couple hundred mexicans died and we can't get the information to get to the bottom of that so i don't need lectures from you about contempt and i don't know if it is very difficult to deal with asking questions as a former judge i'd never have asked questions of someone who's been held in contempt So that was just one little thing that took place and then... You know these blowhards go back and forth. If the Go-Mart had, you know, these Congresses, this is just a charade. If they felt this way about it, they would hold them in contempt for not doing it. Well here's Blake.

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

National Action Network, Eric Holder, and Racial Adversity

Following his contentious testimony in Congress, Eric Holder spoke at Al Sharpton's National Action Network conference, where he complained of "unprecedented, unwarranted, ugly, and divisive adversity." Holder used the phrase "forget about me" repeatedly to draw attention to the perceived mistreatment of himself and President Obama. The hosts interpret this as a strategic use of racial politics to deflect from legitimate oversight regarding DOJ documents.

national action network· eric holder· louie gohmert· racial politics· c-span

1:23:58 Let me see, why is this? Blake Farenthold from Texas, a Republican, and he wouldn't even ask questions. I'm committed to maintaining the constitutional balance of power and the authority that this branches legislative branch has and i just uh... don't think it's uh... appropriate mister holder be here if an american citizen had not complied with one of the justice department subpoenas uh... they would be in jail not sitting here in front of you right on testifying but i realize their questions to be asked in are you the remainder my time i'm so happy about it okay so this is of course outrageous and we don't go there buddy now

1:24:40 Holder then shows up at Sharpton's thing the next day at the National Action Committee. Is that what it's called, National Action Committee? Yeah, I don't know what Sharpton's thing is. Now remember, Sharpton was using this whole, but forget about me. Just look at the situation. Forget about me. Now here's Holder, apologies, he's really killing the mic there at the Action Committee. I am pleased to note that the last five years have been defined by significant strides and by lasting reforms, even in the face, even in the face of unprecedented, unwarranted, ugly, and divisive adversity. If you don't believe that, you look at the ring and forget about me. Forget about me. Forget about me. Forget about me.

1:25:34 You look at the way the Attorney General of the United States was treated yesterday by a House committee. Had nothing to do with me. Forget that. What Attorney General has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? So forget about me. Forget about me, which really means think about me because, oh, let me think. Oh yes, I'm black. What president has ever had to deal with that kind of treatment? This is... So this forget about me business really means forget about me, take me out of the equation, but think about me in this context and what attorney general has ever had to live through that horrible horrible treatment from white guys from Texas. There you go that's what it's really all about and Gohmert wasn't doing much he was just being a little snide and he was asking for the documents. Yeah.

1:26:31 And I bet you there's plenty of we've you started looking C-SPAN attorney generals testifying. There's plenty of abuse Oh, yeah, give me a break. Oh, yeah, he was hurt though, buddy Don't go there. Well, did you he had this little lie? I actually wasn't gonna play it for you But this is what there was this line here. See if you can catch it here in this clip Well, let me ask you the time of the gentleman has expired. It's unfortunate chair recognizes the gentleman asparagus Did you hear what he said? Something about asparagus. Yeah, good luck with your asparagus. Is that what he said? That's what Holder said to Gohmert. So I had to look this up. Why did he say that? So he's just up there being a wiseass. Good luck with your asparagus. Well, here's what happened. In 2013 when this started, when Gohmert started getting into his face,

1:27:33 He said, and it's kind of a lawyer joke, I didn't understand this, the Attorney General will not cast aspersions on my asparagus. And this is a call back to Percy Foreman, which, you know, this is what old white guys do, believe me, like non sequiturs that nobody cares about, who use this in trials to put everyone on the wrong foot, as it were. But of course the Attorney General doesn't get it. And he's been waiting a year to say, I guess, good luck with your asparagus or whatever. The whole thing is very strange. Would that be a reference to, in other words, he's saying to Gohmert in an offhanded way, good luck with your trying to get anywhere with this? Yeah, probably. Because you're getting nowhere already or you're an asshole? Probably something like that. Good luck with your asparagus. Good luck with your asparagus. All right.

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Years of Living Dangerously, Climate Central, and NGO Funding

The Showtime documentary series "Years of Living Dangerously" is critiqued for its celebrity-driven approach to climate change advocacy. The hosts investigate the funding of "Climate Central," an NGO featured in the show, finding ties to the Rockefeller Brothers, NASA, Google, and the World Bank. They note that the organization is late in filing its Form 990 tax documents and question the objectivity of its experts.

years of living dangerously· climate central· showtime· nasa· rockefeller foundation

1:28:33 John have you seen that's a borderline clip of the day no no no but it's coming in no it's coming it's coming I don't know have you seen years of living dangerously I sent you a link I didn't do a life oh which is probably my mistake but it's an hour-long show so yeah yeah okay use it no I didn't I hadn't watched it no years of living dangerously is the Showtime series produced by, this is the Robert Redford, Matt Damon, Tom Friedman, lots of celebrities and it's essentially the televised series of an inconvenient truth how climate change is going to kill us all. Dead. Like just, you know, dead. So you haven't seen it. Yeah I've heard about this we've played the trailer to it like six months ago.

1:29:27 So the first episode is already available on YouTube. and Friedman, Thomas Friedman. Now he's not a climatologist I don't think, is he? No, nothing like this of the sort. He's an economist columnist for the New York Times. Oh yes, that's right. Largely believed to be an agency representative. Oh yeah, okay. So, okay, that helps. So he could be a spook is what you're saying. Well he's one of the main figures in this documentary series. Why? Well, you'll find out. And he's there on, I think, Talk to the Hand, Meet the Press, something, what's the, with the Bob Schieffer guy? Face the Nation. Face the Hand. Face the Palm. And with Heidi Cullen, who is from the non-profit NGO Climate Central Inc. Yes, Climate Central. And Climate Central, you might want to know where they receive their funding from.

1:30:29 I've looked that up just for your convenience so you understand who was talking and who was a part of this. You can find them at climatecentral.org. Funding from, ooh, anonymous. Let's see, Packard Foundation, Foundation for Environmental Research, Google, Island, NASA, NASA Langley, NASA Headquarters, Northrop Grumman, let's see, Gordon Betty Moore Foundation, Rockefeller Brothers, The Robertson Foundation, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, U.S. Department of Energy, U.S. Department of State, World Bank. Kind of a New World Order organization.

1:31:14 Not really a no agenda type outfit. No, no, it sounds pretty questionable. Sketchy. Sketchy at best. And by the way, they have not released their 2012 Form 990, which is in violation of all rules. Well, I don't understand how these people get away with this. I don't know either. If I didn't do that, you know, they're six months late at this point. And that's after a six month extension. So, all right, fine. Okay. So they don't do that. They can do whatever they want. So Heidi Cullen is there along with Tom Friedman who apparently now is in the climate business and within the first five minutes of this episode one

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Thomas Friedman, Global Weirding, and Hurricane Sandy

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman appears in the "Years of Living Dangerously" series, linking the Syrian revolution to climate-induced droughts. Friedman proposes the term "global weirding" as a more effective meme than "global warming." Expert Heidi Cullen also claims that Hurricane Sandy was made worse by a foot of sea level rise caused by global warming, a figure the hosts dispute as scientifically inaccurate.

thomas friedman· global weirding· hurricane sandy· syria· climate change

1:31:50 We find out, well I'm not going to spoil it for you, I'm gonna have Tom Friedman explain it to you. It's a nine-part series and people can watch the first one tomorrow actually on YouTube, yearsoflivingdangerously.com, you can get it for free. For me it's been really the most remarkable documentary project I've ever been involved with. I got to do looking at environmental and climate stresses in the Middle East. climate stresses in the Middle East. Climate stresses! I'll actually go to Syria and show how the drought in Syria is connected to the revolution. Get to go to Yemen, look at the first city in the world that may run out of water. So climate change is responsible for the revolution in Syria. Of course, where else we have Al-Qaeda? In Yemen, they'll be the first country without water. And then to Egypt. Oh yeah, Egypt, of course, another place. It's all climate change. It's not CIA. It's climate change.

1:32:39 What water did they ever have in Yemen? Most of those countries, you visit them, you find out that most of the water they have is reclaimed ocean water. None of them have water. Well listen, you're not Tom Friedman, so you just need to shut up and sit down and watch a documentary. Look how climate stressors were involved in the revolution there. uh... participating the series you know we have our schwarzenegger met damon harrison ford on cheetah mark that meant really on the list all from from cbs online second welcome it mean i don't know who that is mark bitman is a food guy Food Network who he's I don't know if he's the one he's either the one is two of these guys Bittman other guys Zimmerman one of them. They eat everything they can and they discuss it. I'm not mistaken Bittman who's also a food columnist Challenges famous chefs so they can cut they come on a show and then he they cook something and he cooks it better and

1:33:34 if it's the same, if I do, I'm not mixed. No, it wouldn't surprise me, it wouldn't surprise me. But is he, why is he on this? Well, we need celebrity appeal, you see. Why is Harrison Ford on it? Why is Matt Damon on it? Harrison Ford was sober. Put him on, quick. Cheadle, Mark Bittman, really, Leslie Stahl from CBS. Mark Cheadle? Leslie Stahl? She's a talking head. Yeah, but he had to say that because you heard Bob going, oh yes, Yeah, cuz it's CBS and face the palm is on CBS Harrison Ford's on mark Bittman really Leslie Stahl from the remarkable group of people remarkable ideas to bring this home through personal story Well you ain't seen nothing yet now I'm no climatologist but some of the things that I

1:34:30 What's her name? Heidi Collins says, I think is borderline criminal. And so of course, When it comes to, and you'll hear Bob, Bob is off his rocker. He's really confused. I think he's not buying any of this. What, Schieffer? Yeah. I think he's completely like, this is bullcrap. Well, Schieffer might be kind of on the fence about this because he spends a lot of time now hosting or being the guy in the middle at a lot of Brookings and some of these other major think tanks events. He's like the kind of the guy who can't hear anything in the

1:35:10 coordinating, hosting, not hosting but you know when you're the panel head of the panel. Right, the moderator. He's moderating a lot of this stuff and he's probably getting a earful. Right. Well here's Miss Collins. Help me with this. For example, the recent storms we've had, the thing that hit New Jersey, Big Sandy. Hey what was that thing that hit New Jersey, John? Was that Big Sandy? Big Sandy. He's like, uh, help me. I think they hit New Jersey. Big Sandy at a big, a big birth of Sandy. Help me with this. For example, the, the recent storms we've had, uh, the thing that hit New Jersey, a big Sandy and all of that. Is that because I can stop a global heat. This was on the documentary.

1:35:58 No, no this is, they're talking about the documentary. Oh they're talking about it, okay. This is a promotion for the documentary. I believe CBS also owns Showtime if I'm not mistaken. I don't think that yeah yeah no I'm pretty sure it's isn't CBS a Viacom company? Yeah I think Viacom does own children. So that's why this is forced on them. Yeah Sumner, Golandi and all of that. Is that because of global warming? Because of climate change? There is no doubt in my mind that... Beautiful! What a performative. There is no doubt in my mind This is beautiful the way she's doing this. So climate change. There is no doubt in my mind that Hurricane Sandy was made worse as a result of global warming, specifically the sea level rise components. You think about that massive storm surge during Hurricane Sandy. There's an additional foot of sea level rise that we can tie directly to additional flooding. You look at New J- Now hold on a second. Nowhere have I heard anyone claim an additional foot

1:37:00 of sea level rise because of global warming. Inches? Yeah, maybe. An additional foot? She's full of crap. New Jersey, for example, an additional 25 square miles were flooded. That's about 40,000 people that were impacted who wouldn't have been. And then think about how bad Sandy was. $60 billion in damage, more than 125 dead. And then fast forward to a point where sea level is now four feet higher. And we're talking about a Sandy-level flooding event in a place like New Jersey happening every year. So we've got to think about the fact that if we don't do anything now, Our grandchildren are dealing with risks they cannot cope with. I thought we're having a Katrina every year. There hasn't been one since. No, no, it's a big Sandy. Every year the kids are going to die. It's just it's it's all over. However, we need to switch back to Tom. By the way.

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Climate Change Hoax, Petro-Dictators, and Biological Experiments

Thomas Friedman argues that even if climate change is a "hoax," the transition to green energy would make the US stronger and less dependent on "petro-dictators" like Vladimir Putin. He compares the effort to training for a triathlon that never happens, suggesting the side benefits are worth the cost. He warns that failing to act could result in humanity becoming a "bad biological experiment."

climate change· vladimir putin· petro-dictators· triathlon· thomas friedman

1:37:52 That was, if I'm not mistaken, Sandy was in 2012. So we should have had, what was the one in 2013 since it was happening every year? Yeah, well, I'm sorry, we didn't have one. Oh, no, don't worry. But it's going to be four feet. Okay. 60 billion. By the way, the 60 billion, you know, people are putting more expensive houses there. That's why that number goes up. It's up to 68, last time I looked. Now Tom is being a good company man. He is going to help launch a new meme because he finds that this global warming, that's just not cutting it. No, no, no.

1:38:29 No one is doing this climate change communication properly, but this guy smart man New York Times writer Intellectual he'll do it for you. I mean put in personal terms So um your your son or daughter um has a disease and you go to 100 doctors 97% of them say this is the cause and this is the cure it's only if your doctor son or daughter is involved and and 3% say this is the cause, this is the cure. That's what it is on the climate science. 97% of experts say this, 3% say that. And conservatives are saying I'm going to go with the 3%. That's not conservative. That's Trotskyite radical.

1:39:11 Okay, that you would go with the 3% not the 97% now get ready for it to pick up on something that that Heidi said I actually don't like to use a term global warming because that sounds so cuddly to a Minnesota boy Bob That sounds like golf in February. I much prefer the term global weirding. Okay, because that's actually what happens. I the hots get hotter, the wets get wetter, the dries get drier and the more violent storms for the reasons Heidi outlined are most likely to become more severe. And that's what we saw in Syria. We saw a four year drought, worst in Syria's modern history, that preceded the revolution there and produced a million refugees that basically laid the predicate for that revolution. There you go, global weirding equals Syria.

1:39:56 It's so obvious. Wow. That's a borderline Clip of the Day too. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think any of them are Clip of the Day. This is just moron. You'd say it was Clip of the Day. I would have called it. All right, so then let's just wind it up with the obvious play because, you know, better safe than sorry, I think, is kind of the meme. Global weirding better safe than sorry 797 doctors not the three create were probably religious crazy doctors by the way it gets back to a central point here some people say you know climate change is a hoax to it just say you know if it's a hoax it'll be the greatest hoax that ever happened to us because if we do everything we need to do to prevent climate change and doesn't happen we will like be like someone who trained for the Olympic triathlon

1:40:40 And the triathlon never came. We will be stronger, we'll have cleaner air, we'll have healthier society, we'll have more innovative industries. We'll have less money because... Wait a minute, so what he's saying is even if it is bull crap, we're better off. We'll have a stronger dollar. We'll have a stronger dollar! We'll be less dependent on the worst petro-dictators in the world. No, no, wait, wait, you have to listen to this. Putin okay, whatever it is. It's Putin and on the worst petro dictators in the world starting with Vladimir Putin We'll have a better petro dollar yeah Putin thrown in now Dependent on the worst petro dictators in the world starting with Vladimir Putin and the likes of him so to me if it's a

1:41:28 I don't think it's a hoax in the least, but if it were and we did everything we could to prevent it, we'd only be stronger. By the way, if it's not a hoax and we don't do anything, we will be a bad biological experiment. A bad biological experiment. This guy should be a novelist. Yeah. Yeah. No, you have to watch this thing. It's beautifully done. You know, every... No, I'm gonna... You know, I'm resisting watching it and I think now that I know you're watching it, I'm even more resisting. So the Al Jazeera had an interesting little piece which kind of fits into this a little bit. They made the note, we've talked about this but we haven't taken it too seriously, but I think the public relations machine has started and I think we're going to start hearing more and more and it's going to be one of our themes of the show because this woman is completely nuts and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch her run against Hillary because she can actually beat Hillary and it's Elizabeth Warren.

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren, 2016 Presidential Speculation, and Al Jazeera

Al Jazeera reports on the rising political profile of Senator Elizabeth Warren, framing her as a potential 2016 challenger to Hillary Clinton. The segment highlights Warren's populist rhetoric regarding the minimum wage, student loans, and her criticism of Wall Street. The hosts discuss whether Warren is a "red herring" being pushed by Republicans or a genuine threat to the Democratic establishment's base.

elizabeth warren· hillary clinton· al jazeera· 2016 election· minimum wage

1:42:30 In 2012. For tonight's power politics segment, we look at a female Democratic Senator who's turning heads. Many are responding to her calls for equality and her statements bashing the GOP are going viral. David Schuster has that story. She is the potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate that Hillary Clinton's team fears the most. Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. I'm fighting to build real opportunity, fighting to give every child a chance to build something extraordinary and I want you to fight along beside me. We are in this together.

1:43:10 What was this on, John? This is Al Jazeera? Al Jazeera, interesting. This past weekend in that same speech in Minnesota, Warren hammered two of the Republican Party's biggest stars. She accused House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan of caring only about the rich. That may be Paul Ryan's vision of how America works, but that's not our vision of this great country. And she ridiculed Republican Senator Ted Cruz who led last year's government shutdown. The shutdown that sucked 24 billion dollars out of the economy. Talk about a financial genius.

1:43:48 Born and raised in Oklahoma, the 64-year-old Warren has spent most of her life working as a law professor, most recently at Harvard. In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, she was named chair of an oversight panel for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. In 2012, Warren ran for U.S. Senate. One grainy video of her speaking inside a home got more than a million views on YouTube. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there. They're good for you, but I want to be clear, you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. Warren then received $40 million in campaign contributions and handily defeated Republican Scott Brown. Over the last three months and only her second year in the Senate, records show Warren has raised over $2 million for Democratic candidates and senators up for re-election this year. That's more than anybody except for President Obama.

1:44:50 Warren's exceptionally liberal policy views have also set her apart. She believes the minimum wage should be raised to $22 an hour and she has introduced legislation that would make student loans interest-free. Hey, I'm voting for 22 bucks an hour. Go Elizabeth Warren! Hey! Loans are free! And credit cards don't screw ya! Wasn't she the one who was supposed to make sure that didn't happen? Yeah, it didn't work out for her. She's a big talker. Oh, by the way, check this out. Our bank, it's not just our bank I'm sure, but after we got nailed in the Target Neiman Marcus thing, they've now lowered, we only have debit cards, $750. Is this problematic when you use a card to purchase an airline ticket to Tokyo? You can call the bank up and they'll change it. Yeah.

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Hillary Clinton, Neoliberals, and Democratic Primary Dynamics

The hosts analyze the potential primary matchup between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, noting that the Democratic base often favors more radical candidates. They describe Clinton as a "neoliberal" and suggest that some Obama supporters are apprehensive about her candidacy. The discussion posits that while Clinton is more electable in a general election, Warren's populist appeal could disrupt the establishment's plans.

hillary clinton· elizabeth warren· neoliberals· democratic primary· 2016 election

1:45:45 You think this is easy? It's very complicated. They are not changing it back to what it was. They're not doing it. No, but they'll do it for the purchase. Yeah, but you got to call them every single time now? No, I mean, I don't know. You can get it changed. I've changed mine a number of times. Well, all right. I'm cash. I'm back to cash and I'm going to walk to Tokyo. So Elizabeth Warren, yeah, I don't like her. No, I don't like her either. She's bombastic. She's a professor of law at Harvard. Give me a break. We just hired a professor to be president. He didn't do a very good job. And she's a radical. But the thing is, somebody pointed out in this piece, which went on and on, that

1:46:29 She is radically more left than Hillary and the base, in other words when they do the primaries, Hillary can easily win in the general election and Warren maybe can't win in the general election but the base of Democrats when they vote in the primaries tend to vote for the most left radical that's famous that they all know and that would be her so she could actually beat Hillary just the way Obama did with all his blather. Now it's again possible that the Republicans are actually pushing this agenda because she's a perfect red herring. Right. Put her in there and then bring all this crazy stuff that she's done and she then maybe a Republican can sneak in. Well I will say and a lot of people who a lot of our producers have tried this as well when you when you roll out the line Hillary Clinton is uniquely qualified to run the empire more and more Obama bot personnel are well first of all it blows their mind

1:47:27 when you say that but they always like really you think she can win? I feel this pullback. Oh really? Yeah I think they're afraid of her and I always say yeah of course. Hillary's her own worst enemy. Yeah she's well she's the best republican they'll ever have is what I have my follow-up line. Damn good republican too. Yeah. Neoliberals as the left likes to call them. No but I'm feeling I'm feeling a little bit of apprehension And I'm not sure what it is, why, you know, I don't know. There's something about it that is not correct and it's bothering people. Now there is no one else as far as I can tell except for this Elizabeth Warren. I didn't even know that she would seriously be considered. Yeah, we actually talked about this once as a possibility because she's come up in the conversation a few times. But yeah, that credit card thing. She is a big talker.

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

Nomi Prins, Goldman Sachs, and the Revolving Door

Author Nomi Prins discusses her book "All the Presidents' Bankers," detailing the historical relationship between the White House and Wall Street. She traces the power of Goldman Sachs back to Sidney Weinberg's relationship with FDR and the creation of the Business Council. Prins highlights the "revolving door" between Goldman and the Treasury Department, citing figures like Robert Rubin and Henry Paulson.

nomi prins· goldman sachs· fdr· sidney weinberg· treasury secretary

1:48:21 And how does she get 40 million dollars to run against the other guy unless it was from the banks? Wall Street. Yeah. Which is a good book that just came out by Naomi Prince. Yeah, have you read the book? I'm just getting a copy from my Kindle but I do have a... she showed up on Democracy Now and I got two clips of her. She's actually a... Now who is she because she's... I'm always confused. She's ex-Goldman, she's ex-Bear Stearns, she's ex-Lehman Brothers. Is she hot? She's very, I like her. I think she's pretty. Let me take a look. But I'm going to tell you this before you listen to the clips and you're going to start hearing it. Now there's a nice shot of her here kind of in a wife beater, a black wife beater. She's very, she's sharp, she's quick. Who cares? She's hot. But she has a, you're going to hear it after I say this when you start listening. She sounds a little bit like Annie Hall. Ooh, okay.

1:49:14 which ones first the first when you want is this is your discussion is no me versus the bankers but but but in that clip and and and a lot of what obama has said you know uh... what is said publicly and what actually happens inside the private office and with respect to what's going on with bankers and shows up in in the reforms it shows up in the structures it shows up in the minions of lobbyists and lawyers that continue funnel money and little chips away at even very weak but existing rules. Obama has allowed that to happen. He's never come out and named a name against a banker. He talks about Wall Street fat cats as some sort of big broad category. He's not named names. He's not said what Wall Street needs to done. It's just sort of fluffy rhetoric. Would he even say what he said in 2009, talking about the fat cat bankers today? No. You know why? Because he

1:50:05 believes or he says, I shouldn't say believes, I don't know, but that the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act was somehow sweeping reform and he characterizes it as being relative to FDR's reform when he did the Glass-Steagall Act and the New Deal and created the SEC and all sorts of things. And it simply wasn't. As I mentioned before, banks got bigger, their concentration of our deposits and assets and risk got bigger. Nothing was fixed by that quote reform act and so he would he doesn't need to say that now he said it kind of in the beginning to consolidate his base to get elected whatever it was

1:50:40 But many presidents, and actually Democrats are a little bit more guilty of this than Republicans because I think they feel they need to do this, from Wilson on have always bashed the bankers in their campaign speeches. And then when it comes right down to it, most of them have been very helpful and very symbiotic with them after they have been in office. So it tends to get said to the public. Well, this is a big revelation. politicians lie. She documents a lot of it though but she does have some good stories apparently in the book and the Goldman Sachs story it's not like really pertinent to the show or anything but it's I think it's a good little history that we should know it's essentially FDR is the one who saved the company but play this go this is a history of Goldman Sachs Goldman Sachs and that it wasn't always as powerful as it is today yeah Goldman Sachs almost died in 1928 or well basically between 1989 1929 they had a trading partnership partnership in which

1:51:40 investors invested money and the stock of that trust went up to three hundred and twenty something dollars and then it subsequently went down to one. And there were a lot of angry investors around the street and so forth. But a man named Sidney Weinberg, who was the chairman of Goldman at the time, who actually joined Goldman in the panic of 1907 as sort of an underling, decided that if he could befriend FDR in such a manner as to help him run his 1932 campaign, he would kind of have a seat at the table. And so the legitimacy of Goldman with respect to FDR also allowed FDR to create the first business council that

1:52:19 Sidney Weinberg pushed in Washington to forge relationships between the business financial community in Washington and so on. Sidney Weinberg also was behind LBJ's choice of Henry Fowler as a Treasury Secretary who then joined Goldman Sachs after being a Treasury Secretary. And of course we had Henry Paulson who did the other way. Bush picked him to be the Treasury Secretary, George W. Bush, and then of course Clinton picked Robert Rubin, coming from Goldman Sachs, to be the Treasury Secretary in his administration. But it started with Sidney Weinberg and FDR. Yeah, okay, so this is something that we always used to talk about. We stopped talking about the revolving door of Goldman and the government.

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

Derivatives Rules, Basel III, and Chinese Currency Hubs

Bloomberg reports that international banking standards (Basel III) have been softened, representing a victory for big banks dealing in the $300 trillion derivatives market. Simultaneously, Frankfurt has established itself as a major trading hub for the Chinese Renminbi (RMB). The hosts discuss the ongoing shift away from the US dollar as the sole global reserve currency and the rise of Chinese financial influence in Europe.

derivatives· basel iii· renminbi· frankfurt· imf

1:53:01 I don't know why we stopped. I don't know it's because of some of these things a lot of the topics that we have discussed have become kind of like passé. We forget that this is going on. Yeah we gotta be careful of that we do forget these things. Well let me tie into that then. It was very interesting two stories came out on Bloomberg literally hours within each other The first, and written by the same journalist I might add, the first one, Derivatives Rules Softened in Victory for Big Banks. No, I'm sorry, the first one was Tough Swap Standards Drive Up Trade Costs 92-fold, and then right back was the second article, Derivatives Rules Softened in Victory for Big Banks. This is about the Basel III standards.

1:53:52 because of these, you know, it's now, it's like 300 trillion dollars in derivatives that are out there. This is kind of being looked at in both these articles as a very dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah, I think everybody thinks it's dangerous. It's an unregulated wild west situation that could literally... The thing is, you know, it's like you could break the world with this 300 trillion, although the likelihood is pretty... Well, unless... I mean, it's all fantasy anyway. It's just paper. Everything is just digits and paper and it's really meaningless. It's not real. It's just an illusion.

1:54:33 if you really look at it. But now let's take... People can send the No Agenda show all their illusionary... Yes, no, no, we know it's... and I'm paying my rent with illusionary digits. No, I totally agree. Look, here's some a couple other articles. Britain urges US Congress to stop blocking IMF reform. This is the 2010 IMF reform that we've been talking about that might usher in some form of international money. Frankfurt has now become a trading hub for the Remenby. How do you pronounce that? Remenby? Remneby? I don't know. Remneby. It's the Chinese thing. Yeah, I've heard it pronounced but it doesn't come to me. Remneby. So now you can exchange your money in Frankfurt and London soon. So the Chinese are starting to move into different mainstream trading hubs. And then there's this guy

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

Jim Rickards, The BRICS, and the Death of the Petrodollar

Financial author Jim Rickards explains how the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) are seeking more "voice" in the IMF and building their own financial institutions. Rickards argues that the US "stabbed Saudi Arabia in the back" with its Iran detente, potentially ending the 45-year petrodollar deal. He warns that the US may eventually have to pay for its military operations in Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) rather than dollars.

jim rickards· brics· imf· saudi arabia· petrodollar

1:55:32 Jim Rickards and he wrote a book called the I think it's like the death of money or something I have not read the book But it was interesting to hear his take on the bricks. That's Brazil Russia India China and South Africa and the IMF. I think this was from Russia Today, which you need to know because there's always a slant. But the guy's an American and he's a money writer. He made a lot of sense. What they really want is what's called more voice. Voice is one of those jargon terms, but it means votes at the IMF. They want more votes. The votes of the IMF were set up in Bretton Woods in 1944. They've been changed a little bit over the years, but relative to the size of the economies, they're over-weighted towards Europe. In other words, China doesn't have as many votes as it should have based on the size of its economy. It's 10% of global GDP, but has nowhere near 10% of the votes of the IMF. Same thing with Brazil and the other countries you mentioned. So, they want more voice. The US has denied that. The US is not

1:56:29 agreed to that within the governance process of the IMF. But the US is trying to keep everyone on their best behavior saying, you know, you've got to support the dollar. Actually, they want a stronger Chinese currency so they can cheapen the dollar, which is actually part of the currency war. So there's a standoff right now between what the US wants and what the BRICS want. And what the BRICS have done is they said, fine, if we don't get a larger voice in the IMF, we're going to create our own institutions. they'll have a sort of an IMF, a multilateral reserve fund lending fund just among the BRICS. The BRICS are building their own internet backbone, the BRICS are building up their own lending institutions, their own reserve funds, et cetera. And so the BRICS are saying, hey, IMF, treat us fairly or we'll go our own way and set up BRICS institutions. And I guarantee those institutions will not have the dollar as a reserve currency. So that's just another trend away from the dollar. And there are many others around the world. So what he's talking about is that

1:57:23 they had this big meeting coming up tomorrow, I think it's this weekend, Friday throughout the weekend, which is all the financial ministers of all the G20 and apparently, and obviously we didn't pass any reforms, not that I know of, unless that happens today. You're not getting pushed around by these clowns. So they might be starting their own networks. Now this will be fun. Yeah. Well, you know what's going to happen? Oh, rubalization, obviously. Well, I don't know. You can't rubalize China and obviously you're South America or Brazil. Well, before we talk about what is going to happen, let's listen to Rickard's take on what is going to happen. I thought this is interesting. There's no such thing as a strong national security with a weak currency. The two things don't go together. A strong country

1:58:07 has a strong currency. I've actually advised the Pentagon on this. I've said, you know, the day will come when your naval vessel, your cruiser, will pull up at a fuel depot and say Singapore, and you'll say, hey, fill it up with fuel, and the operator will say, sure, pay me in SDRs. In other words, they'll no longer accept dollars. And I said, for the first time, the U.S. will have a very expensive, forward-deployed military that we have to pay for in a currency that we don't print. If the US wants SDRs, it's going to have to earn them like any other country with a surplus in its balance of payments. And so this is a whole new world. We're moving in this direction. You mentioned the GCC. We talked a little bit about Russia and China and the BRICS, but the other threat comes from Saudi Arabia. For 45 years, Saudi Arabia has put a prop

1:58:48 under the dollar, under the petrodollar deal. And what they said was, and the rest of OPEC said, oil must be priced in dollars. So everybody needs oil, that means everyone needs dollars to pay for the oil. But what Saudi Arabia said is, look, we'll price oil in dollars, but you, the United States, guarantee our national security. Now the United States in December stabbed Saudi Arabia in the back, by having detente with Iran and making Iran the regional power. So Saudi Arabia, now that we're no longer defending them in effect, they have no further reason to support the dollar. So whether it's the BRICS, whether it's Saudi Arabia, whether it's financial warfare, the threats are everywhere. They're building up. They don't happen overnight, but it's just a matter of time. So this may be what really went down. And I'm not quite sure exactly, you know, we know Obama was just in Saudi Arabia trying to suck up to them because these guys are now in bed with the Chinese.

1:59:40 who have the RMB, that's how you pronounce it, RMB. Well, they could be rebelized. Yes, they could. Saudi Arabia is a real prime candidate for this, so this is not going to happen. And this guy, by the way, they use the example of an aircraft carrier pulling in and having to pay SDR for fuel, is very bull crap because these things are all nuclear powered and they run forever and they're not going to pull up anywhere and ask for fuel. So to even bring that idea up. I'm obviously playing these clips because he supports my thesis. I'm not, you know, obviously. But the Saudi thing I thought was very appropriate and who pushed the Iran thing? I know who was against it. I never thought I'd actually say maybe he had a point. But if you want to maintain the petrodollar and I kind of agree with what he's saying about the deal with the Saudis, you price in dollars will protect you.

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Special Drawing Rights, IMF, and Global Financial Crisis

The hosts debate the likelihood of the IMF's Special Drawing Rights (SDR) replacing the dollar as the world's primary reserve currency during a future financial crisis. While Jim Rickards suggests this transition is inevitable, the hosts argue that the US remains a "safe haven" for global capital. They speculate that the current financial instability may be a setup to "ruble-ize" and break emerging economies that challenge US hegemony.

sdr· imf· wall street· reserve currency· financial warfare

2:00:35 And then we all went all in on this, oh, you know, we love Iran, we're gonna have a deal with them. And John McCain was like, bomb them, are you crazy? You can't trust these guys. In essence, maybe he was trying to protect the petrodollar. Well, I think we've concluded that McCain is nuts. He's in bed with that other creep and there's this all about some money making deals. These guys don't care about the country. Well, so this final clip and then and just just to play just to get it out there is how something like this would be introduced and this kind of comes back to this big swap thing if we could make this whole this whole crazy 300 trillion or 600 trillion dollars somehow

2:01:18 look like it's about to collapse then we could start to do some interesting moves. earlier, it's going to be bigger than the Fed. And the Fed is already insolvent on a mark-to-market basis. They're leveraged 80 to 1. They look like a bad hedge fund. The Fed's at the outer limit of what they can do. And so the only clean balance sheet left in the world is the IMF. They're only leveraged about 3 to 1, so they have a lot more headroom. And they're going to issue these SDRs. By the way, they did issue SDRs in 2009. I think I might have been the only one who noticed.

2:01:57 other than Dominic Strauss-Kahn and the rest of the people of the IMF. But the fact is, it's world money. It won't be issued on a calm day. It'll be issued in a crisis because it is meant to provide liquidity. We managed to be seen if people will accept it, but they might not have any choice because they don't understand it. The IMF is not elected. They've got kings, dictators, communists and others. on the executive committee and so uh... yeah people don't understand it's opaque we won't have them in our pockets SDRs are not walking around money. We'll still have dollars but they'll be like Mexican pesos or Tegucigalera. It'll be a local currency. It won't be the world currency. The world currency will be the SDR. It'll be like wampum. It'll be like beads at Club Med.

2:02:38 Yeah, this isn't gonna happen. I've said it before. Well, but you know, what if... What do you think? We're sitting around on our hands going, oh god, I guess we can't stop it. No, no, no, I'm not saying... The only thing I could think is that Wall Street is already all in and don't give a crap about America. These guys don't care. If they're saying, hey, it's been 100 years or 70 years, it's time to do something new. They'll do it. That's my only fear. Now, if it goes offshore like that, no, nobody's going to do this. And they're going to let these guys hang themselves. And I think they're going to, I believe, knowing the way this has happened in the past, it's like when Japan was buying up the country in the 80s and they bought Rockefeller Center and all the rest of it and had to walk from the deal, which is my favorite story ever.

2:03:23 and they lost their butts in Hawaii and all the rest, they're gonna let these guys go do their own thing without the insiders that we have working for us out of Goldman and all these other companies. and JP Morgan and the rest of these schemers, they're gonna let them go off and they're gonna set them up for some really bad deals that are then we're gonna go in and rubble eyes the place and break these guys and they're this this whole IMF to the alternate IMF or whatever alt IMF or whatever you want to call it is just gonna lose its But, and they're going to come back begging for us. And this is the reason that this whole thing that we're actually getting stronger in terms of the in terms of where the dollar sits in the scheme of things. Because if you look at our stock market, there's no reason it should be as high as it is in the 16,000s. And it kind of looks pretty healthy, even though all these companies are borderline broke because all the other alternatives out there, which and there's plenty,

2:04:16 People, they gravitate toward the US, the US markets and everything in the US because it's safe. We're the safe haven and this whole thing with Saudi Arabia, they know they'd be asking for trouble. It wouldn't take anything to topple that government and make it into another Syria. It'd be easy. Nobody come to their defense. Nobody likes them. You make a very compelling argument. So you're saying that this could be either a setup or just laughing and waiting for them to screw it up? Yeah, and probably some setup aspect to it because there's money to be made on the short side by the way.

2:04:54 And that would be what would be going on with him. And you can do a lot of damage, shorting stuff too. Have you brought? These guys, they don't know what they're doing. They're gonna start the IMF started in the 40s. I mean, it's just been around. It's got, it's got legs and they're not gonna just let any, and oh, we want more voice. Screw you. What did you, what have you done? I want more voice. Okay. Well, good point. So let's put it this way. All right. This is, I actually like this better. So there's this whole thing and everyone's and we got our agents going around saying hey we're gonna screw these guys. We're gonna screw these Americanos. We're gonna get together with Brazil and Russia, India and China. Look even the Saudis are in man. Come on join us. And then we have some kind of event and then we have to tank everybody I guess with the event. Yeah.

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Market Cycles, Shorting Tech, and Personal Resilience

The discussion turns to how individuals can profit from or hedge against a potential financial collapse, with suggestions ranging from gold and platinum to shorting overvalued tech stocks like Twitter. The hosts reflect on the unpredictability of market cycles and the importance of personal resilience. They conclude that having a simple life, good conversation, and independence from the "spyware" economy is the ultimate hedge.

market cycles· twitter· elon musk· gold· resilience

2:04:16 People, they gravitate toward the US, the US markets and everything in the US because it's safe. We're the safe haven and this whole thing with Saudi Arabia, they know they'd be asking for trouble. It wouldn't take anything to topple that government and make it into another Syria. It'd be easy. Nobody come to their defense. Nobody likes them. You make a very compelling argument. So you're saying that this could be either a setup or just laughing and waiting for them to screw it up? Yeah, and probably some setup aspect to it because there's money to be made on the short side by the way.

2:04:54 And that would be what would be going on with him. And you can do a lot of damage, shorting stuff too. Have you brought? These guys, they don't know what they're doing. They're gonna start the IMF started in the 40s. I mean, it's just been around. It's got, it's got legs and they're not gonna just let any, and oh, we want more voice. Screw you. What did you, what have you done? I want more voice. Okay. Well, good point. So let's put it this way. All right. This is, I actually like this better. So there's this whole thing and everyone's and we got our agents going around saying hey we're gonna screw these guys. We're gonna screw these Americanos. We're gonna get together with Brazil and Russia, India and China. Look even the Saudis are in man. Come on join us. And then we have some kind of event and then we have to tank everybody I guess with the event. Yeah.

2:05:48 Yeah, just tank the whole, pull the rug out from under the whole thing. How do you and I, how do Adam and John make money on it? How do we profit from this? Yeah, and how do we hedge just on the off chance, remember I am from the future, just on the off chance that I'm right, how do we hedge against that? Well, I mean you can hedge against it with gold, probably, or platinum, which is one of my favorite metals. Ah, I like the gold. I don't know, you know, this is the problem with these, because everything is new. I mean people don't realize, well, I mean there's a history repeating itself aspect which is me and my cycles in the market. But the thing that's common to all the cycles is that none of them actually look the same.

2:06:32 when you examine them. One does it because of one thing. I mean who would have predicted it was a housing crisis that caused this last downturn? Because it used to be the stock market that runs it. No man, it was Russia. It was Russia. What are you talking about? Putin did that. Yeah, Putin. You can blame anybody you want but there's all these elements in it and I also think there'd be another secondary collapse and because of the printing of the money at some point it stops working. But yeah, I don't know how to profit from it. If I knew how to profit from it, I wouldn't be doing this show. You wouldn't be doing this crappy show, exactly. No SDRs accepted. You might think it's a crappy show from the lack of support we got this week. Yeah, maybe we're just not doing anything right anymore. Well, we need to print more money. Yes, there you go. I will say that, you know, the, yeah, finding a way to profit from

2:07:36 I think all you have to hear, you want to know how to profit? Just wait till this thing collapses. Just short Twitter. Let's see what Facebook, not so much, but Twitter is way out of control. Probably Musk's company too. Although he's so good I'd be skeptical. You know what, just a little secret. I don't care. I can go to the farmer's market. I can buy enough for the two of us. We got, you know, our cars are 8 and 12 years old. It's fine. They drive nice. They got no spyware in it. I'm a happy man and my wife is hot. What else do I want? Yeah, I got everything you need. You get good conversation. I got good conversation twice a week. I got people who email me when they really are trying to email you. You know, it's great. You get to read my mail. I get to read your email. John is wrong. Why are you emailing me, man? Email him. You get to go out with the Obama bots and yell and scream. That's Andy.

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Producer Donations, Birthday Wishes, and Drunk Emails

The hosts read a list of donations and birthday wishes from the "No Agenda" community, including a "drunk donation" from Arian de Jong in Germany. They joke about the "sow" (show) and address a humorous call-out of a producer in Dubai. The segment highlights the personal connections and lighthearted interactions between the hosts and their financial supporters.

donations· birthday· amsterdam· dubai· producers

2:08:31 Yeah, it's too bad. It's a shame. Yeah, it's a shame. But you know, the good things go. C Squared Productions, I want to thank them for $123.33. I do not have a note from you people. Please help us out. We will read it in the future. Although we don't really read that many notes on this segment. Excuse me, Maxwell Thin in Seattle, Washington, $111.11. He may have sent something in to bring some people up to the stage. Isn't the stage today when we do on the stage? I was thinking so, but... In the yurt? Never mind, you're not going to believe it and I'm getting people saying, you know, they're sick of my tales. Yeah, of your excuses. The stage collapsed. I thought, what, in the yurt?

2:09:12 Well, didn't you have apparently made for some substandard wood that was recycled and it was filled with termites Keith McColpin hundred one dollars and one cents in Imperial, Pennsylvania He says he hates it when mom and dad fight. Please have some makeup sex and keep the kids happy Thanks for nothing. Yeah good ink in Amsterdam. Oh, I wonder what that is $100 nice. I don't know but they're good Joshua Hastings the surface of the sir Face of Fame 5 and he wrote in so I'll read what he said as I write on this I I am this is longhand Yeah, few yes few it will kind of it's a hybrid few episodes behind I'm saving up shows to listen to as I have a 12-hour car ride with my future

2:10:04 in-laws very soon. Yeah, you should put that on the car system. Yeah, you start playing it. And lock them in the seat belts, tie their hands behind their back. And he wants some travel karma and a two to the head. Well, you're gonna need that for sure, my friend. Travel karma with that going on. You've got karma. Please, my lord. Brian Williams 73 73 from Streetwood, Illinois. Oh, I'm doing my 73 73 73 Brian These guys Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia sir Thomas sir Thomas sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia You got to put that on there people you got to you got to give us your titles when you when you donate please Arian de jung

2:10:55 Dortmunder a drunk donation drunk Deutschland donation now read it then you're on donations from Arianne Martin the youngst I hate being called a consumer by marketing pricks so I donate to the show where I get to be a producer not a consumer thank you Borth oh and And Christoph Eilers is a douchebag. He wrote me back. He by the way finished it off with love the sow. I love the sow too. Welcome to the sow everybody. He actually emailed me drunk.

2:11:34 Yeah. And he said that he didn't mean to call Christoph out as a douchebag. Well, that's the second donation. He came in again at 69. See? There you go. Second drunk donation. Actually, Christoph is not a douchebag. He does donut. Donut. Just wanted to say hi to him out there in Dubai. So I have to deduce him now. You've been deduced. 69, 69, dude! Alright, we're done. Scott Olsen in San Diego, 62, 62, happy birthday. Sir J.D. in San Jose, California, 62, 33.

2:12:10 Another happy birthday, School of Podcasting, $62. Dave Jackson. Yep. James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana, $62. And then we go to $60 donations from Karen Demers in Springfield and has got a birthday call upcoming. Sir Daniel Gray, the Drone Knight, in $60. Now, Daniel sent a long note in longhand and I'll just tell what it is. It's just a, it's quickie. He is going to make you a, it's one of his specialties I guess, a holster for your... Oh yeah, I got this note and I haven't replied to it yet. He wants to know which judge I have. Yes, and he wants to know whether you're right-handed or left-handed, the barrel length and the cylinder length. And he's gonna make me a regular. Do you have a weapon to put in it? No, I'm just gonna get a belt. I can't walk around California with a holster and a gun in it. That wasn't my question.

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

Custom Holsters, Unvaccinated Children, and Value-for-Value

Sir Daniel Gray, the "Drone Knight," has offered to make a custom leather holster for one of the hosts, leading to a discussion about firearm ownership and local laws. The hosts also mention a request for "job karma" and the challenges of enrolling unvaccinated children in schools. They reiterate the "value-for-value" model, encouraging listeners to support the show as they would a movie ticket.

holsters· vaccines· value-for-value· school of podcasting· donations

2:11:34 Yeah. And he said that he didn't mean to call Christoph out as a douchebag. Well, that's the second donation. He came in again at 69. See? There you go. Second drunk donation. Actually, Christoph is not a douchebag. He does donut. Donut. Just wanted to say hi to him out there in Dubai. So I have to deduce him now. You've been deduced. 69, 69, dude! Alright, we're done. Scott Olsen in San Diego, 62, 62, happy birthday. Sir J.D. in San Jose, California, 62, 33.

2:12:10 Another happy birthday, School of Podcasting, $62. Dave Jackson. Yep. James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana, $62. And then we go to $60 donations from Karen Demers in Springfield and has got a birthday call upcoming. Sir Daniel Gray, the Drone Knight, in $60. Now, Daniel sent a long note in longhand and I'll just tell what it is. It's just a, it's quickie. He is going to make you a, it's one of his specialties I guess, a holster for your... Oh yeah, I got this note and I haven't replied to it yet. He wants to know which judge I have. Yes, and he wants to know whether you're right-handed or left-handed, the barrel length and the cylinder length. And he's gonna make me a regular. Do you have a weapon to put in it? No, I'm just gonna get a belt. I can't walk around California with a holster and a gun in it. That wasn't my question.

2:13:09 No, you're just gonna get a plain belt. You don't have a weapon? I have plenty of weapons. I just don't walk around with them. What good are they? I was writing that I have plenty of weapons. Yeah, nice. I got a weapon right here. Sir Daniel Gray the drone knight. Okay, um, and by the way, the drone knight. No, that's that's that's not the poster drone knight. Okay, it's not the poster drone knight. Mary and now these are all $50 from Mary Walton in Irvine, California John height in Folsom, California Antonio McMullin These are all 50s Paul Vela in Milton Keynes UK Jason fortune in Geneva, Illinois David Pete in Aubrey, Texas John Vander lawn young Thunderland the lawn

2:14:09 in Austin Austin Drenthe Drenthe yeah very good Holland and last two are John Virtue in Newport Beach California and Scott Soltis who comes in with a one of those auto payments from the bank shortlist dollars a month he's a big spender and just since it's such a short list John Hike from Folsom he wants another LG wife for his four-year-old unvaccinated daughter That won't last long. No, you're not gonna be able to get... You're gonna need papers. We want to see your papers. Won't be able to get them into school, man. And we need a job... Get him on the bus. We need a job karma for everybody here. Let me do that. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

2:14:58 So this was a short segment as was the producership. What is going on? Is it because it's tax season or are we just not good? No, I think that's the birthday thing. Everyone said happy birthday and then they just... Blow me. I think it's a cyclical thing but hopefully they'll pick it up a little bit for Sunday. And tax season is upon us and that always makes things go down a little bit. Except for the guys that are getting money back. Yeah. Well, that's not me. That's not me, babe. Yeah, all right. Well, we could do better on Sunday. That would be nice. Yeah. Please help us out. This is our value for value model. The way we do it is very simple. We provide you value with our programming. There's nothing else we do, really. And the theater tickets are getting more expensive and just think of us as going to the movies, only cheaper. Yeah. And without George Clooney. Dvorak.org slash N-A-V-O-R-A-K.

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sealing Wax, and Leo Laporte on Privacy

Alex Zoglin and Mark Tenner are officially knighted for their significant financial contributions to the show. The hosts discuss the tradition of listeners using sealing wax on their donation envelopes and warn against using regular candle paraffin. The segment concludes with a clip of tech personality Leo Laporte claiming that only a "small minority" of people are actually worried about privacy.

knighting· sealing wax· leo laporte· privacy· alex zoglin

2:16:00 Michael Wade Moss says happy birthday to his wife April. She turns 40 today. Oh, figure that someone named April who was born in April and Karen Demers says happy birthday to her husband Craig Demers. He celebrates on April 14th. Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe. Two Knightings today, that's very nice. We have our, uh, Ins- well not our Ins Knight, we have Alex Zoglin, the, uh, he should have a, uh, a Space Knight title.

2:16:37 Yeah, sounds like a space alien race. Why don't we just call him a knight of outer space or something? No, they call their own knight. We're just gonna give people a name. He'll like... He'll maybe regret it. He'll hate it. Maybe he hates science fiction. He'll have to let us know. Please let us know Alex and also Mark Ten... I got your... Where's your blade? There you go. Okay. So Alex Zoglin, Mark Tenner, Step Forward gentlemen, both of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe. The amount of $1,000 or more there for Happy to induct you into our roundtable of knights and dames and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Mark Tanner and Sir Alex Zoglin, knights of the noh agenda roundtable. For you I've got whiskey and wet wipes, Cunnilingi-ona and yoga and jambo, bad science and perky breasts, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, cannabis and cabernet, hookers and blow, rent boards and chardonnay, sparkling cider and escorts and just plain old mutton and mead.

2:17:29 Go to noageneration.com slash rings pick up your rings they're well deserved and you get your sealing wax and of course your official certificate there as well and thank you for supporting us. I still get the biggest kick out of people who mail in you know checks and notes and whatever and they have the sealing wax and they seal it on the back of the envelope. I know isn't it great? It looks cool. Yeah I love it. Of course then there's the one guy and I want to remind people sealing wax is not paraffin Some guy with a regular, put some regular wax on it. Oh no, that does not work. It's a cheap candle. And then pushed it down and the whole thing leaked oil all over everything. It was a mess. Let's do a little technology here for a moment. First, here's a little clip I picked up. You know, I think it's really a small minority of people who are worried about privacy at this point. Okay. That could be the clip of the day. Who is that? That's Leo! That's Leo!

2:18:24 You know, I think it's really a small minority of people who are worried about privacy at this point. I don't think it's a movement Leo Laporte the tech guy moving on to Gary Because he believes it It's not a movement This time has been really bothering me as a license all about what I just find this shocking that he would say that yeah it is well Yeah, that's why he needs me back on his little show. Yeah, well, that's not gonna happen. No. It's not okay. Especially as you did this Yes in fact they've actually I can't even connect to their stream now already been kicked out of the chat room I

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

MH370 Pinger, Frequency Discrepancies, and the Number 33

Search efforts for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 reported hearing "pings" at 33.3 kHz, rather than the standard 37.5 kHz used by black boxes. The hosts criticize an Associated Press expert for mistakenly referring to the frequency in "megahertz" and suggest the number 33 is a sign of a planted story. They question how a sophisticated transmitter's frequency could shift so significantly due to battery age or water depth.

mh370· pinger· 33.3 khz· associated press· black box

2:17:29 Go to noageneration.com slash rings pick up your rings they're well deserved and you get your sealing wax and of course your official certificate there as well and thank you for supporting us. I still get the biggest kick out of people who mail in you know checks and notes and whatever and they have the sealing wax and they seal it on the back of the envelope. I know isn't it great? It looks cool. Yeah I love it. Of course then there's the one guy and I want to remind people sealing wax is not paraffin Some guy with a regular, put some regular wax on it. Oh no, that does not work. It's a cheap candle. And then pushed it down and the whole thing leaked oil all over everything. It was a mess. Let's do a little technology here for a moment. First, here's a little clip I picked up. You know, I think it's really a small minority of people who are worried about privacy at this point. Okay. That could be the clip of the day. Who is that? That's Leo! That's Leo!

2:18:24 You know, I think it's really a small minority of people who are worried about privacy at this point. I don't think it's a movement Leo Laporte the tech guy moving on to Gary Because he believes it It's not a movement This time has been really bothering me as a license all about what I just find this shocking that he would say that yeah it is well Yeah, that's why he needs me back on his little show. Yeah, well, that's not gonna happen. No. It's not okay. Especially as you did this Yes in fact they've actually I can't even connect to their stream now already been kicked out of the chat room I

2:19:14 There's something that's really been bothering me when it comes to technology. Of course I am a licensed pilot in fixed-wing and rotary. I'm a licensed radio amateur. I'm allowed to broadcast up to many, many watts of power around the world with wires and everything. And then I hear this about the pinger. this Malaysian airline thing. Now we already kind of all know that you know it's not about the plane but when all of a sudden we get this magic number popping up it's 33.3 hertz instead of 37.5 there's a couple of things that are very bothersome about this but first let me play you Associated Press

2:20:06 AP. Would you say there's a standard at AP, John, of fact-checking and stuff? Yeah, no, Associated Press has a lot of rules and they even have their own style guide which they print, they publish, which a lot of people use, showing you how to pronounce and say things and the way things should be spelled and how they should be used. So when they have an aviation expert, you would expect the expert to actually know what he's talking about? I would expect an aviation expert working for the AP specifically as opposed to just being one of the casual guys that that submits stuff to the AP. Yes. Let's listen to this. AP Radio News. I'm Rita Foley. The latest pinging heard by a search ship looking for a missing jetliner in the Indian Ocean is not exactly on the same frequency as the black boxes on board the aircraft would usually be. But our airline expert Scott Meyerwitt says that doesn't mean that this is a dead end. What we've heard right now is 33.3 megahertz. It's not exactly a sound you'd hear normally from nature or anything underwater. Did you catch it?

2:21:09 Catch what did you catch what he said? What do you says? It's a 33 point three, which is the sound we normally 33.3 What what he said megahertz? Yes Hertz not megahertz kilohertz douche Megahertz megahertz, I'd be kind of a hard dude that would not travel very far underwater wouldn't get through and this is the Associated Press expert So these things bother me because how can you trust anything else the Associated Press does? I've said this myself though. I mean every once in a while I'm talking about Hertz and megahertz and I just drop megahertz in when it should be something else. I don't know, I give the guy a little pass on that. I give the guy no pass. And I also don't give... where is the analysis... Now the question is, here's the note, the no pass should go like this. Why didn't she call him on it? Because it's a pre-produced package, she wasn't even there. She wasn't talking to him.

2:22:06 Alright, alright now here is the thing that bothers me um This except so first of all whenever a magic number pops up it means bullshit and to have 33.3 mega mega I did it myself I'm gonna go shoot myself here. Well now I'm just gonna go home I'm gonna take my toys and get out of the sandbox. I suck alright, so this 33.3 kilohertz I think it's actually, I don't know if it's Hertz or kilohertz now, but it's not megahertz. Yeah, it's probably kilohertz. But whenever 33 pops up in the news, it's a plant and it means bullcrap.

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Dukane Seacom, CNN Coverage, and Death Wish 4 Dialogue

The manufacturer of the MH370 pinger, Dukane Seacom, appeared on CNN to discuss the frequency discrepancy, offering vague explanations about water temperature and debris. The hosts find the company's refusal to rule out the 33.3 kHz signal as suspicious. The segment ends with a humorous detour into "dialogue of the decade" from the film "Death Wish 4" starring Charles Bronson.

dukane seacom· aaron burnett· cnn· death wish 4· charles bronson

2:22:51 Now to have a pinger that transits... We talk about this a lot. No, no, this is... I don't want to interrupt you. We talk about the 33 thing a lot. We say what we say about the BS and this appears to be the case for some reason. We don't know why this is being planted and who's planning it and how they do it. Well at this point I think it's just to throw it in my face. Hey, Curry! Now if you have this sophisticated piece of machinery that is supposed to transmit a signal, periodic signal at 37.5 kilohertz. I know a lot about transmitters. What is now being said is, oh well maybe because of the battery, the battery ran out and then the frequency shifted. Are you kidding me? That is bullshit! And no one

2:23:50 Even the guy who makes the machinery is lying about it. He won't even admit that this is happening when he's specifically asked the question and I think it's only for, you know, insurance reasons. But here he is with Aaron Burnett, the guy who makes, he's from Duquesne Seacom, and she's going to ask him specifically and he's not he's going to subvert the he's going to avoid answering the question and so this means that this 33.3 has been planted in there for a reason and there has been some discrepancy out there obviously we know that the signal that has been picked up in both cases here by the US pinger locator was at 33.3 kilohertz and usually a black box

2:24:36 such as the one, the pinger that you might manufacture, you manufacture, would be 37 and a half. Does this discrepancy concern you make you think that they're listening to the wrong thing? Well, it's something that we need to study further. There's a lot of variables that come into play. Age of battery, depth of water. Really? Age of battery? Temperature of water, possible debris that could be refracting or changing the frequency. Some marketing guy doesn't know anything. Exactly. These things need to be examined. The more data we have, the more we can help them. So when you hear 33.3 is what this is broadcasting on, you're not throwing your hands up and saying that's not it. You're saying this very well could be it, right?

2:25:14 We're optimistic but cautious. We don't think it's dolphins Okay, it's dolphins. Is that what he said? Yeah, we don't think it's asparagus That should be our new one. Yeah, I think it's asparagus Wow. Well, let's see. Let's think this story. They still running the crap out of it on CNN Oh, oh, I have a clip for you. Yeah. Now this one here. This is a clip. I took This could have been a number of things. I could have used this clip earlier in the show to drop it in as though it was Gohmert and Holder talking out of class or maybe Holder talking to somebody. Or it could have been an Ask Adam about the Guess the Movie. And I've just decided this is probably the greatest dialogue I've ever heard on a film, ever.

2:26:12 I'm really thinking which one would it be. Dialogue is the key word there. Sorry. I don't see it. Yes, dialogue of the decade is right after it's alphabetical. I'm sorry Who does that punk Zacharias think he's playing with doesn't make sense why would Zacharias hit us because he's trying to start a war Somebody's knocking up his men to man. I don't believe that for one minute You know what I think I think Zacharias did himself, and he's trying to pin it on us He's playing us for suckers Jack. He wants our territory. I don't believe that I Because if there's war, he loses as much as we do. Oh, come on Jack wake up Wow

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Sarah Bajc, Beijing Briefings, and CNN Reporting

Sarah Bajc, the partner of a passenger on MH370, has moved from Malaysia to Beijing and continues to appear on CNN to criticize the investigation. The hosts find her calm demeanor and use of professional terminology like "agencies" and "investigative reporting" to be suspicious. They speculate on her background and the possibility that she is being used as a media asset to maintain public interest in the story.

sarah bajc· beijing· cnn· mh370· investigative reporting

2:26:57 Great stuff. Yeah, how come we didn't just do a movie clip of the day? I don't know what that is John. Death Wish 4! With Charles Bronson! Yeah. Wow. The overacting is just, especially with this character, it's just like wow. That's good, that's good. Anyway. I actually, you know, you kind of jumped the gun there. I had another update from our actress, Sarah Bajak. Oh, okay. Where was she last when we had her on set? We had her in Malaysia?

2:27:34 And she was talking about fighter jets escorting the plane that had her partner, long-term partner from Texas on it? Yeah. She's no longer in Malaysia. People are giving up. Please help me convince them we must keep trying to find you. Just a small sign. I love you, SJ. Sarah Bajek is in Beijing and she joins us now live. Sarah, remember she said she wouldn't go to the Beijing, the Chinese briefing for obvious reasons? Yeah, she said she wouldn't go for obvious reasons. Now she's in Beijing. I wish she had that other clip because yeah, she won't go for obvious reasons. What reasons? What's wrong with these reporters that don't let these... I know what it is. You make a lot of money, you're sitting there asking somebody questions and you are bored stiff. You're not on pins and needles listening to what they say. Anyway, go on. Well, a lot of people are now really looking into her, particularly the YouTube people. Hey everybody, it's...

2:28:30 It's Joe379 here on YouTube. I love the YouTube people who do the screen. It's Joe379 here. Look at this lady, she's crazy. And apparently she worked for an Israeli high-tech firm. She was a teacher in Beijing. This is all suspicious. Very interesting past. Thanks so much for doing this. Let me start off by saying that my heart goes out to you and I admire your strength. Are you still... He sort of said, thank you for your courage. That would have been better. Following the day-to-day developments in the search for the plane or are you tuning out everything until some substantial evidence comes forward? First of all, thank you for having me on the show.

2:29:18 Who's- thank you for having me on the show. This does not- this is not the way a distraught person talks, I'm sorry, just not. And I am continuing to follow the investigative reporting that I'm seeing mostly on CNN, but a number of the other high quality agencies are also pursuing a continued look into what the evidence may or may not tell us. Agencies? Agencies. What they may or may not tell us, she sounds like a robot working for some one of these agencies. But I've stopped looking at things like the pings and the other government provided information because it's all proven to be wrong so far. In fact you've been

2:29:58 vocally critical of how the Malaysian government has handled this investigation and you said Times Square what's the deal? Yeah, she has to do with the sound effects. She's no longer on Skype. She's in Beijing and there's a bunch of, there's no horn honking in Beijing. I heard a horn. Actually the background is pure white. You can't even see anything in the back. It's all washed out. You don't just think they're in over their heads. You think there's a cover up here. Explain what you mean by that. Do you think it's a cover up of Some tremendous ineptitude leading the witness or do you think there's something potentially more nefarious there? Is he setting her up or what? Well, the criticism that I've rallied against the Malaysian government's involvement so far has been their ineptitude in communicating things properly They say uses the same language one thing and then they say another they're constantly contradicting each other

2:30:52 Whether or not they, the government itself, is covering something up or has made a mistake, I don't know. Alright, darling. You continue to entertain me. Wow. Yeah, well she'll be on, where should she be next? Probably in Moscow. She seems to be, the CNN thing seems to be her home kind of. I got a news story here is kind of interesting. I thought I got a kick out of it. Now what I got a kick out of was a little fun. This story was reported over and over and over again. This is the Medicare story where they released all the numbers and they found some doctor made $30 million a year off of Medicare charges and another guy 20 and another guy 10. Was this a Freedom of Information Act thing? What was this exactly? This was something that Congress demanded that they

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Medicare Payment Data, AMA Injunctions, and CIA Authors

For the first time in 35 years, Medicare released payment data revealing that some doctors received over $20 million in annual reimbursements. The hosts highlight a detail from The Blaze noting that the American Medical Association (AMA) had an injunction in place since 1979 to keep this data secret. Additionally, they discuss the late author Peter Matthiessen, who admitted that his founding of the "Paris Review" served as a cover for his work as a CIA agent.

medicare· ama· peter matthiessen· cia· paris review

2:31:42 release. I don't know who was behind it but it got released and everybody picked it up but only one of the reporting reportage, only one reportage brought in a little tidbit in here which they dropped in. I think this was either, I think this may have been Al Jazeera. Quarters for the first time in 35 years, Medicare releasing payment data and the numbers are staggering. We're learning that in 2012, seven doctors got more than $10 million in reimbursements for services billed to Medicare. One received $21 million. He is currently enmeshed in a criminal inquiry. All told, $77 billion paid out to 880,000 doctors. The American Medical Association had an injunction in place since 1979 to prevent the information from being released. The data finally released after a court order.

2:32:30 Hmm. So now nobody brought this up. This by the way was the blaze believe it or not. This is upsetting. Everybody talked about this story but nobody except this woman, there's the news reporter there, mentioned that the AMA had put in an injunction in 1979 to prevent this information from coming out. What kind of a corrupt operation is the AMA? Yeah, they didn't even bring this up on the show. They just said it, but I've when I heard it I said because I've heard the story two or three times I had different copies of this story and then when she said that I wait a minute That's interesting Hmm. Well, it's a big and powerful organization. I know that well the fact that they would for since 1979 you couldn't tell how Medicare money was being spent and

2:33:21 You know, this whole thing is... You mean there's corruption going on in the government? Oh, do tell, do tell. Another piece of short news which I picked up on, this is Democracy Now!, I'm sure. I just, this is not the whole thing. One of the famous writer novelists who won a number of awards, who started the Paris Review. And I just love the way Amy Goodman just reads this stuff straight-faced. when she drops the real bomb in here on this guy. And Peter Matheson's final novel comes out today, three days after the celebrated author and naturalist died of leukemia at the age of 86. In his 20s, Peter Matheson helped found the Paris Review, which he later admitted using as a cover for spying on Americans in France as a CIA agent. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah.

2:34:11 I always just think that's funny. That's what most of what the CIA does. People don't realize that. And it's actually beautiful because the way the New York Times, who of course are complicit in this, is they can say, oh the Paris Review wrote dot dot dot, or the Amsterdam Telegraph wrote dot dot dot, therefore it gives credence and legitimacy. Yeah, to a bullcrap story. Yeah, I know. This is what we're fighting against. I want to mention this to everybody that listens to this show. This is what we on this show fight against because it's the only source I think you're going to find that is always on the lookout for this sort of thing consciously. We are constantly and constantly on the lookout for this sort of thing and that's why we need your support. And so I got a lot of emails. I'm sure you, well maybe you didn't. I probably get all your email.

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Mozilla CEO Resignation, Google Influence, and Prop 8

The resignation of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich is linked to Google's significant financial influence over the organization, as Google provides 90% of Mozilla's revenue. The hosts suggest that Eich's past support for Proposition 8 made him a target for Google executives and journalist Kara Swisher. They contrast the outrage over Eich's personal beliefs with the lack of media attention on the imprisonment of gay men in Egypt.

mozilla· brendan eich· google· prop 8· kara swisher

2:35:07 Just don't even email John, just send it to me. Yeah. This Mozilla CEO thing. Oh, more? Yeah, well I'm sure you heard that... But the guy, the guy who, the OKCupid guy gave money to this real anti-gay congressman? Yeah, there's that. Assemblyman? Yeah, there's that. But what I thought was more interesting was the tie-in to Google. Oh, okay. I'm listening. Yeah, so I can read this to you verbatim actually. It was a slash dot thing. Over the years, Mozilla's reliance on Google has continued to grow. Indeed, its report on Brendan Eich's promotion of CEO of Mozilla, The Wall Street Journal, noted that Google accounted for nearly 90% of Mozilla's $311 million in revenue.

2:35:55 So with its sugar daddy having also gone on record as being virulently opposed to Proposition 8, to think that Google support didn't enter into discussions of whether Prop 8 back or I should stay or go seems well pretty much unthinkable. It is the chilling and discriminatory effect of the proposition on many of our employees that brings Google to publicly oppose Proposition 8, explained Google co-founder Sergey Brin in 2008. We should not eliminate anyone's fundamental rights, whatever their sexuality, to marry the person they love. Interestingly, breaking the news of Ike's resignation was journalist Kara Swisher, whose right to marry a top Google exec in 2008 was nearly eliminated by Prop 8.

2:36:39 Quote, in an interview this morning, wrote Schwisher, Mozilla executive chairwoman Mitchell Baker said that Ike's ability to lead the company that makes the Firefox web browser had been badly damaged by the continued scrutiny over the hot button issue, which had actually been known since 2012 inside the Mozilla community. Now, I think there's validity to this. To what? That this guy was pushed out by Google. Oh. And Kara Schwisher is probably part of the gay ink mafia who pushed him out. Well, she definitely had a conflict of interest when she got involved in the story. Thank you. But of course, as long as you say full disclosure, then everything's okay. Yes, it is. It makes me laugh so hard. Full disclosure, I'm paid by the CIA. Now let me give you my opinion. Oh, he disclosed it, so it's fine. There's no problem. Yeah. It's become an interesting way of producing journalism.

2:37:44 And of course not a word out of the news that Egypt has thrown four gay men in jail. Somebody should be up in arms about that. Yeah, we should be banning something or yelling at somebody. In fact I think the problem is we don't know who to yell at in Egypt anymore. Who's running the show there? I don't know, that's probably what it is, we don't know who to yell at. Just the military is. So I have this clip, it's bugging me. It says the clip is intelligence oversight one. That's just they don't have an intelligence oversight two.

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Intelligence Budget Transparency Act, Black Budgets, and Heartbleed

Congressman Peter Welch is promoting the "Intelligence Budget Transparency Act" to force the disclosure of the total dollar amounts spent by the 17 US intelligence agencies. The hosts discuss the "Heartbleed" bug in OpenSSL, questioning why the open-source community failed to catch a vulnerability that existed for two years. They suggest the NSA likely exploited the bug for years while ignoring its potential for domestic harm.

black budget· peter welch· nsa· heartbleed· openssl

2:38:25 I'm thinking, and I don't remember the clip. Can you play that clip? Now a bipartisan push has begun on Capitol Hill to make parts of the black budget public. Democratic Congress member Peter Welch of... Do you need to set something up here? Well this is the guy who, this is not going to get anywhere, but this one Republican and Democrat and a bunch of other people are all, because I think of Snowden, they've been demanding and they want to get a bill through that's going to make the Obama administration and any subsequent president of

2:39:11 legislation to force the president to include the total dollar amount requested for each intelligence agency in his annual budget submission to Congress. The bill is called the Intelligence Budget Transparency Act. Congressmember Peter Welch joins us now from Capitol Hill. Welcome to Democracy Now, Congressman. Can you talk about just what this act would make transparent? Well pretty basic information how much of taxpayer money is being spent on intelligence gathering activities the top-line number You know, there's not just the NSA and the CIA. We have like 17 different intelligence gathering

2:39:47 agencies. And those budgets have exploded. They're up over 50 percent, even as is pointed out, the National Institute of Health, that budget is down 22 percent. And if you are going to have any oversight whatsoever, you have to know what the budget is. And in fact, The 9-11 Commission advocated this. Somebody with solid credentials on national security, Lee Hamilton, is a strong proponent of letting the taxpayers know how much is being spent. I'd also like to know what is being spent on. I'd like to know if we're spending it on venture capital. He says that we won't know that, but at least these committees will get to look into who's duplicating effort.

2:40:24 right that's what they're concerned about. It's like two you know there's 17 different agencies spying all over the place, defense intelligence that one crazy one that the department of You know, Carrie's group's got an intelligent... by the way, this reminds me, you know, I think that woman that was, that's dating our economic hitman who works for that group, the State Department Intelligence Agency. I think she put the clamps. I haven't heard from him. Oh yeah, no, I'm pretty sure we messed that up. Well maybe, whatever the case was. Or she probably got a memo. I'm sure everyone's going to be talking about someone, well, I guess it's not really a movement, this privacy thing, but this Heartbleed bug. Yeah, that just showed up. Isn't that just the SSL bug? Who named it? When did the name come up? Well, okay, so the reason why is because it's a part of SSL, OpenSSL, I should say.

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

OpenSSL Vulnerabilities, Rackspace, and Condoleezza Rice

The "Heartbleed" bug has forced a massive re-issuing of security certificates across the internet, with the hosts criticizing cloud providers like Rackspace for their slow response. They also discuss Condoleezza Rice joining the board of Dropbox, viewing it as a sign of government encroachment into private data storage. The segment laments the state of technology reporting, which focuses on gadgets rather than critical infrastructure vulnerabilities.

openssl· rackspace· amazon· condoleezza rice· dropbox

2:41:29 has a heartbeat, it's kind of like a monitoring function. Yeah, it's like a pinging. Yeah, you can see how it's doing, how it's performing, and you can actually compile it without that. And what I was interested in as I was looking, you know, who committed this bug? But, you know, this, it kind of deflated me a little bit. When we have the, oh isn't open source supposed to be that people check stuff and make sure it works? Yeah, this is exactly the irony. Open source is supposed to be, and it's just another one of these little go-to kind of things apparently, but open source is supposed to be scrutinized by the community so it's safer than anything because of the scrutiny of the community. Apparently not. Yeah, um...

2:42:15 And it's been around, I mean, essentially, everything is just, everything's compromised. Everything. I mean, because I run two servers that had this issue and of course I patched them. And by the way, Rackspace, what a bunch of douchebags. It took them like 36 hours to get even their message out to people. Amazon was on a pretty, I have one server at Amazon, one at Rackspace. Both Linux servers. and I did some of these, I ran some of the scripts that you can run to see it's really unbelievable. It just literally returns the most recent connection with password everything right back. It's crazy. I mean you have to think.

2:43:07 I mean, maybe this is why the NSA is just laughing. They had access to everything anyway for years. Yeah, yeah, I know which makes you wonder why they couldn't stop the Boston bombing. Hello? Yeah. Well, that's because they're not interested in that. It's all blackmail. Blackmail, getting their way in Congress, getting that budget. I'm surprised this budget bill where they're going to make it transparent how much money they've got and how much they're spending. Never going to happen. There's too many just blackmailed. You know, Congressman, you know this Floozy that you were with last Tuesday? Spent an awful lot of money on champagne for her, didn't you? And that Floozy was a dude. And by the way, she was a dude.

2:43:47 And now Condoleezza Rice is joining Dropbox's board? What has she got to do with Dropbox? I don't know, but I'm gonna stop using it. Who would want anyone in their right mind? I mean, it's like, invite the wolf in. Yeah, you don't want these government people on your board. No. Well, maybe they have other weird people on the board. I kind of like Dropbox. They're all in. They're letting everybody in. They're scanning your stuff if you have songs, copyrighted songs. They're done. Yeah, you can't get away with anything. They're done. I'm thinking, you remember how you complained about tech shows being, technology reporting pretty much being about phones and stuff and wearable technology.

2:44:37 you know, we used to talk about chips and processor speeds, but this is really the stuff that should be talked about is, you know, how does open source, how should it work? You know, when we have these things sitting around for two years in an open source repository of open SSL, which everybody is using, and it's just, it's completely compromised. And these are the conversations that need to be... I don't even hear anyone talking about how did it happen. It's like, oh you've got to change your passwords! Thanks! And all the certificates have to be reissued. What's the implication of that? It's frightening. All new certificates. You always got to wonder when certificates are coming to play. Yeah, so this seems like the whole system sucks. Well, it's really the whole thing. I'm glad I'm a ham radio operator, man.

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

Franklin Regional High School Stabbing, Ritalin, and Media Narratives

A 16-year-old student at Franklin Regional High School near Pittsburgh injured 22 people in a stabbing rampage using kitchen knives. The hosts observe that the media narrative focused on the relief that a gun was not used, while completely ignoring the potential role of psychiatric drugs like Ritalin. They argue that the underlying causes of such violence are rarely addressed when they don't fit a specific political agenda.

franklin regional· stabbing· pittsburgh· ritalin· gun control

2:45:30 Because we're gonna totally need this stuff. Oops, hold on a second. Something really bad happened here, John. Something bad happened? Yeah. I have no control over my computer. Oh, you're not going to be able to play my last clip. Um, well if you wait, hold on a second. And I only thought by the way that you're going to cringe when this clip is because I think it was a big news story this week. It was like a cycle, six week cycle, sorry, but it wasn't obviously. Oh, mm-hmm. And it's the stabbing story. Yeah. Which we didn't cover on the show at the beginning because I didn't, I agree with you, it's just another one of these, just somebody, some incident with somebody going nuts. Yeah, I'm back.

2:46:09 But when you think about this story, the one thing that they still don't talk about, which is, and they try to discuss this kid was an introvert or he wasn't an introvert and he was shy or he wasn't shy, and he stabs a bunch of kids, and this is the background on it, this clip. nobody brings up was he on Ritalin, was it with drugs, they don't even bring it up. and started stabbing his fellow students when it was over 22 people injured. Five students are in critical condition. Morgan Radford is here with the latest on that. Morgan. That's right, John. 16-year-old Alex Rebraul was charged this evening with two dozen felony counts including attempted homicide and aggravated assault. Police say this was all after he went on a rampage with knives. He's now being held without bail.

2:47:03 Alex Freeball, just 16 years old but now an adult in the eyes of the law, charged in a rampage through the halls of his high school. I don't know what I got going on down at school here, but I need some units here ASAP. School hadn't yet started when panic erupted. According to police, a 16-year-old walking the first floor at Franklin Regional High School just outside of Pittsburgh slashed students at random with two large kitchen knives. Yeah, yeah that that doesn't sound drug-induced at all does it no Yeah, no none of that question the only thing I'm hearing is man. Thank God. It wasn't a gun yeah Yeah, that shows up, but yeah, no the drug thing doesn't come up at all I mean never never with suicide to gay teen suicides none of that never never question about what drugs these kids are on and And I'm telling you they're pushing it on all these kids

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Media Shield Bill, Chuck Schumer, and Journalist Definitions

Senator Chuck Schumer is advancing a "Media Shield" bill that defines who qualifies as a protected journalist, specifically excluding those without a "commercial relationship." The bill, supported by Senators Feinstein and Durbin, would leave the protection of bloggers and independent media to the discretion of judges. The hosts argue this is a precursor to government licensing of journalists, which would effectively silence uncompromised independent voices.

media shield bill· chuck schumer· dianne feinstein· bloggers· journalism

2:48:00 I have two Sayonara clips. One is Chuck Schumer. This was on C-SPAN. This is about the Media Shield bill which is coming up for vote pretty soon. It's going to be taken to the floor. And of course the most interesting thing in this is what, who will be covered under this Media Shield. Which is kind of the precursor to being a licensed and officially approved journalist. Right. And is there a definition of journalist anywhere that you feel is appropriate? I think anyone who notes the world around them and publishes in any form or even tells people about it is a journalist. Essentially everybody can be a journalist by just declaring themselves to be one. That's my definition.

2:48:51 Yeah, you're missing one important fact, and I'm blown away that this is being accepted. You'll hear Chuck Schumer say that we have accepted it. What's your definition? Well, the bill is not the definition we started with again because my job is to get something passed and make the situation better and I Spend my credo my whole life, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good This is another great meme that's out there. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I'm gonna try that honey I'm sorry, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I mean, I really tried

2:49:30 The original bill I introduced said that as long as you had an intent to gather news, you were a journalist and protected. So this is what... Chuck, good! As long as you had the intent, that of course can never pass anywhere. That's no good. And two people on the Democratic side in the committee didn't like that, Senators Feinstein and Durbin. Oh, those two. Politics are much more similar to mine than the people who opposed it for national security, but they thought that bloggers and people like that, they wanted just traditional journalists to be protected. And so we came up with a compromise. And the compromise basically says three things. If you're a traditional journalist, you are covered.

2:50:19 And a traditional journalist doesn't just mean someone who writes for a newspaper. It doesn't, our definition does not separate the medium by which you send out news, but it does say that you have had some relationship in terms of being a journalist, some commercial relationship at some point in time. If you have it now, you're being paid by somebody to do something, you're fine. If you had it once in the last 20 years for a year or so, you've written five freelance articles, you're covered. The people who are not covered, I wish they were, but they're not, automatically

2:50:57 are people who have written freelance articles and never gotten paid for them. And that they should be covered. So what we did is we put in a safety valve. that if you're in that situation, you're not automatically covered, but if the judge finds, and I want you to get the words right here, that it is quote, in the interest of justice and necessary to protect lawful and legitimate news gathering activities, you are covered. Most judges have been quite liberal in this, most state judges have been quite liberal in applying this law. frankly we did not get too much opposition from the blogger new media community when we put this in they didn't like it oh I'm sorry I'm looking do you do you have your questionnaire somewhere I never heard about this are we not members of the blogger and new media community definitely members of the blogger new media community and I'm also a legit by this definition very legitimate you are very legitimate I never heard of this

2:51:55 Sneaking this in at the dead of night. So this is essentially... Oh we got no, no, nobody said nothing! Why didn't you say something when it came out? You didn't say anything! What they are saying is if you're not getting paid you're not a journalist. Which of course is the the most disgusting form of corruption Because if you are getting paid, you're obviously open to corruption and collusion and influence because, oh I don't know, job? But if you are a true journalist, like I think we are, I mean we're performers obviously, meh meh meh, nanu nanu. Weenie in the butt! Um... Ladies and gentlemen, we are...

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

BitTorrent Sync, Media Licensing, and Show Sign-off

The hosts discuss BitTorrent Sync as a peer-to-peer alternative for media publishing to bypass future government licensing and domain seizures. They conclude the show by encouraging listeners to support the "No Agenda" effort and stay skeptical of mainstream news narratives. The episode ends with their traditional sign-off and a final jab at the public's lack of concern for privacy.

bittorrent sync· licensing· p2p· adam curry· john c. dvorak

2:52:56 journalists yeah and we cannot be compromised because we do not have a commercial relationship that's no good do you see the the we talk about this for a course it's a scheme the whole thing is just a long-term scheme to be able to eventually license that's the long term that's the end around that's the that's the goal license so you So then, because here's what the deal is, here's the way I see this playing out. Schumer's you know and he seems so sympathetic, so he goes on it's too bad, it's too bad, but this is the way it's gonna be. And so he says, but luckily some judges, but then when he says some judges that means not all. So this is gonna become a

2:53:43 bone of contention. Oh what are we gonna do this guy's this one judge says this and one judge says that well what we have to do to solve this problem which is becoming worse and worse is licensing. We have to license it that way it's already pre-concluded, the story's over. You get a license, if you can't get the license then you better find some way of getting it. You get your license and then now you're covered and we don't have to have this all this controversial judges saying this and that. Yeah, no, this is so obvious, it's like walking down Broadway. It's gonna be licensed, you're gonna be a licensed blogger, licensed podcaster, licensed journalist, it's all gonna be licensed.

2:54:24 You're gonna have to get permission from the government to be a podcaster and our show will be under attack. Well, it is already under attack and I encourage everybody in the show notes, find out about the BitTorrent Sync program, which is also available for your iPhone and your Android, but you should set it up at home and it's magic. I drop it into a folder and it shows up everywhere. It's peer-to-peer, it's like BitTorrent. It is the future of media publishing and quite honestly the only way we're going to be able to publish in the future. That's the way I see it. And it's, you know, you don't need domain names or anything like that. You just need the... You just need the client. The secret key and the client, yeah. Yeah. That, and you know, it's the future. It truly is the future of media publishing. It's the only way we're going to be able to be heard.

2:55:21 I believe. Well yeah and it's you know our audience is always going to be dilettantes who really want real news and they don't want to they just by the general public at large and Leo may actually be right about this because of the nature of the public not wanting to get to him they don't want to really know any more than they you know a little entertainment news and a couple of headlines and you get scared about this and that oh my god what we're gonna do and let's go back to work. Let's have a nice dinner of some canned foods, macaroni and cheese. Some mac and cheese. You know, a nice chat with the family. Comic-Con's not a big deal. Watch a little bit of The Voice. The Voice is a good show. Good show. How about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Well, it's not as good a show. Well, I watched that of New York. That's a good show. And that's gonna be that. So I think that's... A little bit of porn.

2:56:18 A little bit of porn now and again, not too much. You know what I mean? You got to be careful. Well, yeah, but you know, it's like for dudes, that's all dudes do now. That's what we do. We go to work, we work, we get some porn, come home, my wife is angry and crabby, the kids are all jacked up on drugs. Am I describing your life? That's why your kids are all jacked up they're drugged out You know you guys you got the military during the football game gonna stand that attention

2:56:59 There you go. All right. Well, I think that's That settles it last in first out. That's that's all I gotta say. That's the key. That's it Hey, we do like dissecting disseminating die Methylating news for you and we'll do it again on Sunday. Please support the effort Dvorak org slash na we do need a longer list of supporters to make it happen and It's a lot of C-SPAN I've been watching. Go ahead, you watch Malaysia Flight 370, we'll get the real news for you. Yeah. Sitting pretty here in FEMA Region 6. In the morning everybody, my name is Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DuVorak. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Thank you for your courage.

2:58:06 You know, I think it's really a small minority of people who are worried about privacy at this point. I'm Joe Biden and thank you for taking the time to listen. The best podcast in the universe. Dvorak.org slash N A.