1834: Swarm Forge

What's the point of keeping it a big secret? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, January 15, 2026. This is your award-winning Give On Asian Media assassination episode 1834. This is no agenda. And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA Region Number 6, In the Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where nobody's surprised that President Clinton told Congress to pound salt. I'm John C. Dvorak. Well, he's found in salt. They said, we're not going to testify. You can't make us do that. Yeah. It's pretty interesting. They threw Steve Bannon in jail and Navarro in jail. They threw all these other Democrats. And then once you know that it's Comer's committee, what do you think's going to happen? Yeah, nothing. Pretty much nothing. Nothing. The guys that do nothing. Yeah, it's amazing.

It's unbelievable. It's too... James Comer is the biggest do-nothing I've ever seen. I mean, I'm still waiting for the Hunter Biden stuff. Well, we're connecting the dots with the banks. We see the crime family. You know, zip. Nothing. Well, they're in Congress. It's not even their job to do that. This Justice Department, I don't see why anyone puts any faith in Congress to do any kind of and he, you know, locking people up. It's not gonna happen. And there was a period of time if you recall when I think the Republicans held Congress but the president was Obama and they, and what's his name, the Attorney General, the black guy. Holder.

Holder comes on and he said he gives him a bold-faced lie about some one thing or another about where all these missing weapons went to the cartels in Mexico and we're gonna we're gonna get to the bottom of this and we're gonna and then they they actually sent in a Referral so he could be in contempt of Congress for not answering some questions nothing Nothing came of it. You seem surprised I No, I'm just going off. I'm not surprised at all. I've been hearing this for 18 years, everybody. Of course. I mean, where's my 10,000 sealed indictments at? I gave up. There's another one. That guy disappeared, of course. He stopped talking. I gave up. Yeah, 10,000 sealed. Who was that guy? What was the guy's name? Judge Knapp.

No, it's Joe DiGenoa. Joe DiGenoa? What did he get? Whatever happened to him and his wife? Did they still do a podcast? She's got indicted. They were in the 10,000 indictments. I don't know. Joe DiGenoa. Yeah, he'd come on. We have tons of clips of him coming on talking about, oh, tomorrow. It was always tomorrow. It wasn't like he pushed it off for a year. It was tomorrow they're going to release 10,000 sealed indictments. Here, let's see. I have, uh, this is, let me see. What's a good one? I think this is a good one. Oh wait, I have an ISO. What is this? How many sealed indictments there are? More than 100,000.

Hold on, we need the Genoa. Here we go. Here's the Genoa. So we should see a report by the end of this summer. Are you hopeful? I am. I'm a little surprised by the... This is when he was talking through his microphone with Doug. ...that John Durham is going to publish a report before filing criminal charges. Um, that's really fascinating to me. Uh, when I was an independent counsel of the United States, blah, blah, blah. I don't even want to hear him anymore. This sound is too bad. I guess, uh, does he know? No, maybe he's dead. Let's not make fun about dead people today. It's been a bad week. Let me see. Does he have a podcast?

Yeah, that would be it. Believe me, if he had a podcast, we'd be listening to it. Joe, the American Spectator? Nah. No, he has no podcast. I don't know what happened to him. He's just gone. That's interesting. Somebody pulled him from his assignment. Somebody do a wellness check. So you already talked about in the newsletter, but we are obviously mourning the loss of Scott Adams. Yes, he was a friend of the show for sure and He didn't plug the show as much as he could have but never plugged the show I don't think he ever plugged the show that he ever plugged the show one I think once or what I know a couple of times he mentioned the show No, okay. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, you just say Dvorak and curry. He wouldn't even say no agenda. Thanks Scott. Oh

Yeah, it was stuff like that. But there was a number of things that were, you know, there's all these tributes and they were all well-deserved. I mean, the way I saw it, and I've known him for guess how many years? You have known him for 32 years, 33 years. Exactly. Uh-huh. 33. Uh-huh. What does that tell you? It tells you something's up. So, um, So he had, there's a couple of things that came about. I mean, I knew him early on and then I lost track of him for about a decade. I hadn't seen him and then I started seeing him again. Last time I, when I saw him after. You interviewed him for the show. Yes, we did for the show. We should repost it. We should repost that for sure. That's a good idea. Yes, I was thinking about it. It was a good idea. We should repost it. And it brought a lot of stuff out. But he was a couple of things that people never got,

got to know about him. One, he was the, I think he was the hardest, he's a hard worker. He was just a killer hard worker. He did, even when the cartoon was largely canceled, he kept writing Dilbert, which took a lot of work. He did about five books and he did about 50 cartoon books. And do you remember when he got canceled and then he had this arm problems and he couldn't draw and he did all kinds of things to figure out how to still make the cartoon? Yeah, he had a lot of physical issues that came and went. Yes, I remember the guy couldn't draw for a while. Kind of sucks as a cartoonist. Yeah, but he got over it. Yeah. And he would... A couple of things that you should know about him. One, he did not really like people. No wonder you two got along. Amazing.

He didn't really like people. He said to me once, he said he doesn't have respect for people. And the reason was, he says, because everybody is so susceptible to suggestion that they can be easily manipulated. And he went on about this. He had this preoccupation with this manipulation thing, which brings me to the commonplace that he was a trained hypnotist. Yes, as he often said. Yeah, because he was a big believer in repeating stuff until it became true. There's no evidence of this. Who trained him? And who does he ever hypnotize? What, dude, you're gonna kick the legs out from underneath the dead guy? Don't do that. I'm just saying. I'm protecting you here. Don't do that. Okay, I won't go on about that. But if anyone likes his cartoons, and I have a couple of panels, luckily I collected,

from years ago when he drew, actually drew the cartoons, not on the computer. He got fired, the story about him getting fired is fascinating. So he was a bureaucrat type, he was not an engineer really, even though he became one at Pacific Bell, he was a Pacific Telephone. Pactel. Pactel. Pactel. He was a natural engineer. He had the mentality of an engineer. That's why he felt he could engineer everything. And so he worked at Crocker and Mimi's actually the one who helped him get his job at Crocker when she worked there. No way. What's Crocker? Crocker Bank. It used to be a famous bank in San Francisco Bay Area. Scott worked there. Wow. How did Mimi hook up with him?

She didn't. He was hanging out with a bunch of pot smokers. Oh, comics. Comics, you mean. No, no, no. He was hanging out with some of the girls that worked at the bank and he was a pot smoker. And girls want a lid, want a cup of lid? He was a real heavy duty pot smoker. People have to realize that. Oh yeah. We connected deeply on that. And he was right about it. It wasn't a secret. No. And so he worked at the bank and then I don't know how he lost his job there because she was already gone by then. And he ended up going to work for Pac Bell

And he was just doing system stuff and working on the computers. He got on the web early on, first guy ever showed me the web, because I visited him at his offices. Wait a minute, how did you meet him? I don't know the origin. I can't remember, it was 33 years ago, I can't remember when I, how I hooked up with him. But I'm over there and he's showing me the web and so he, and then about three years later after I, After that, about 96, I think they fired him from Pac Bell. And the story behind that is quite fascinating. What happened was they brought in, because Scott was not doing a lot of work at Pac Bell, but he was famous for doing Dilbert, because Dilbert was a huge hit during that era when he was at Pac Bell. And so the salespeople from Pac Bell would use Scott as a foil to get appointments.

He was their go-to guy for the sales team. And so they say, well, you know, we'd like to meet you about to do some, you know, some sort of whatever business the phone company does, but they do a lot of business obviously. And we'll bring Scott Adams, you know, Dilbert, we got him, he works for us. Oh yeah, sure, yeah. I didn't want to have the meeting, but now I do. He always was thinking past the sale. That was one of his big things, thinking past the sale. So he was used as the guy, the bait for the sales team at Pac Bell. And they were just rolling and dough with this guy. A guy comes in who is, they just hired a guy and he's gonna do a, what do you do when you go from job to job to job to check to see if these people are doing anything? There's a word, term for it, somebody in the chat. Yeah, a fed.

No. If we call that a Fed, in business speak, he's a Fed man. He's checking to see if you're doing the job right. There's a term for this process and it's called work analysis or something. I haven't been in business for so long, I can't remember it. But so they brought this guy in to do efficiency analysis and they go through one person after another and the guy gets this guy, he figures, this guy's not doing anything. NARC. Maybe NARC. Call him a NARC. And so they fire him. Because this guy comes in and the guy, this was unbeknownst to the sales team. And so Scott is out. And so they freak. I remember you telling me this. Yeah, I remember this story. They freak out. And they try to get, and Scott is out now for about a month before they put two and two together. They try to get him back, but he looks at his cash flow and he says, I don't know, I have to go into the office, screw it. He never goes back.

And so he stays out for good. And the guy who fired him was depicted in his earlier cartoons, if anyone goes back to his cartoons, there's one guy with a full short facial beard. He's got a complete facial beard and black hair and he's kind of a shorter guy. That's the guy who fired him. Auditor? Sorry? An auditor? No, no, not that's not so try and think of the name for that position. There's a word for what it is The same guys that were in if you watch the movie Office space those two guys who come in to check on the employees. Mm-hmm. Okay, so

So he has the guy in the cartoons for a while and he's always an a-hole. He finally dropped him because he wasn't really a good character. The other one I know, the woman that's in the cartoons who has the triangle shaped hairdo, I actually chatted with her, she ended up working at Cisco. This is so deep, man. This is great. I love this. It's a lot of in the weeds stuff. People like hearing that. I went to his... He had a chain of restaurants for a while that were Stacy. He was financing this woman Stacy and the restaurant Stacy's. I went to lunch there a couple of times.

The one in Pleasanton admits Stacy and I think he had a crush on her, but she It was just using him to finance the restaurants. He was not good at pulling the birds I hear he was not really good at it. Well. You know I don't think he I Never could figure that part out, but he was funny. He had a dry odd dry super dry sense of humor that was quite efficiency experts Yes, exactly. Thank you trolls who said that who was that? MVP. Oh, all right. Yeah efficiency experts came in and this guy was the efficiency expert he hired him in and about three months after the sales guys made a fuss they fired him he got fired the efficiency expert. Yeah, of course get rid of that guy. Wow, that's amazing.

So, you know, so Scott has a, is an interesting, was an interesting person and he, it's a shame that he... Well, you know, you and I had a little chat about it and you said something very interesting. Can I just relay that? Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of convinced of this, which because, well, it's based on one of my old stories, but yeah. Well, go ahead then, carry on. Well, I had this thesis, and it's not a thesis, it's something that everybody does. If you're a motorcyclist and you're on a dirt trail and you're bouncing around and you see a big you see a big rock You know what's gonna happen if you keep looking at the rock you look at the rock you hit the rock This is the this is you you always look where you're going Not what you don't what you're trying to avoid if you're trying to avoid it and you look at you'll hit it need this same thing with driving a car and it turns out because I was talking to Brunetti about this and his wife Alex says you do the same thing with horses and

I don't know how that works. My horse is gonna stumble. Well, you don't look at what the horse is gonna hit. You look at where you're going. And I mentioned that to Mimi and she said, yeah, because she's a horse, she rides horses. And yeah, you do. You don't look at... It's the same thing. And Scott Adams was so preoccupied with suggestibility. Yeah. to an extreme. He basically was looking at the rock all his life. Yeah, the shoemaker's kids have no shoes.

And so he, so because he was so preoccupied with this, he was, and believed in it so much that he himself was suggestible. And the only reason that he came up with this is because he was, he sounded okay on his podcast until he went to the radiologist. And the radiologist said, put your affairs in order, it's over, son. The radiologist, and Scott said it, had no good news. I'm cooked. And, and he did not sound the same. He sounded like he was cooked. The radiologist had suggested to him that he was through, and he took this, because he's always looking at the rock, he hit the rock. That's just the thesis, I don't know, but I did notice the difference, and within five days he was done.

We got a lot of, because people know about the connection between Scott and the show, and I just wanted to read one or two notes. Mitchell Reeves, he says, in the morning with the passing of Scott Adams, I felt it was important to tell you both how much you mean to me. See, this is what people do, like, oh crap, what if those guys go away? What am I going to do? How much? Yeah. Yes, and they should. Yes. I'm 32 years old, 33 in one month with a wife and two young daughters. I'm approaching my last semester of law school. I work full-time, go to law school at night, but this guy's busy. The two of you, as well as Scott Adams, have been with me the entire time and given me something to look forward to and have also helped me feel a lot less alone. It gives me a bit of escape from the stress I'm under right now. I always tell people my non-negotiable, can't-miss podcasts are No Agenda and Coffee with Scott Adams. I can say with certainty that I am better because of your show. Of course, I don't want to make it about us, but I just thought that was interesting because I got a lot of those.

I don't know if you got any emails, people saying, you know. Yeah, I got a few. And based upon, I'm not going to recycle content, but based upon his last words, which his ex-wife read, Pastor Jimmy and I had a conversation about whether he's going to heaven or not based upon his accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior. And one of our producers sent an interesting note, he said, one of the persuasion tips Scott hammered on was thinking past the sale. Thinking past the sale was not about whether he was going to heaven, it was whether Jesus was real. And it seems like it's one of those last, very Scott Adams type thing to do. And you can listen to the podcast to hear us talk about that.

But a lot of people got really excited. Like, yes, he accepted Jesus on his... the deathbed conversion, we call it. Yeah, I always thought of it when he did it as a why take a chance. Well, that's basically what he said. Yeah, and that's the way he always was. Yeah, what have I got to lose? But the problem was his logic was because he was a natural engineer, it was to overthink everything. This is why he got the Vax. He was overthinking for one thing, unfortunately, being suggestible himself.

he believed that the propaganda about the, without question, that came out of the government about long COVID and its dangers and all the rest. This is what, during that era where if you touch something, oh, you can pick up COVID from touching things. And so he bought into that and he was very adamant about it. But his earlier mistake, and I think I pointed this out on the show before, which irked him to no end, was his decision, but through his own logic, and I can still see him doing this on the blackboard, he has his whiteboard actually, and he had, where's the origins of this come from? And he had two choices, he broke it all down on the blackboard. And one was the virology lab that investigated coronaviruses in Wuhan and the wet market.

So, through some screwball logic which I never could understand, he says it's so obvious to me that it's the wet market. Well, he later rescinded that. Well, yeah, sure. Yeah, people are yelling at him. No, man, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Yeah, he's pretty good at it. He was very good at resisting people yelling at him. So because he was a very, you got to have that. Yeah, well, yeah, but he was also he was He got into trouble once, about 20 years ago, with some back and forth that was going on online. I had to chat with him, I talked to him over the phone about it, because I had a solution. And I told him how important it was he had to fix this, because I had gotten into an online mess years earlier. Yeah, with the Mac people, they hated you. Well no, it was something that he said on, it was something I said on

When CompuSurf had these forums, we had ZD's net or something on there and it was, I had taken a stand on some stupid thing. You were taking a stand against social media in the early, early days. No, it was about something else, it was about some product. And I had one of the, a friend of mine called me up and said, you gotta stop. And because he says, this is just getting out of control, just apologize and you'll be good to go. And so, which is the same thing I kind of told Scott. And I did, and it just ended. Whoa, well, crap, he's not arguing anymore. Go figure. Let's move on. There's just a lot of argumentation that people like to do. They just like to argue.

You know, speaking of the Vax and Choices, just to pivot a little bit for a second, because I think we've discussed Scott and we miss him. He was good. He was fun for podcasting. Oh, he was a great podcaster. Natural. And I was always, envious is not the right word, but I always thought his simultaneous sip was a genius podcasting thing. It was a gimmick. It was a good one. It was a great gimmick. That was really good. So RFK Jr. sent a letter to Germany, a stern letter I'm sure, sealed with his night ring and sealing wax, and it's about a similar topic. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary. Welcome to the podcast, everybody. These guys are all doing podcasts now. Hi, I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary. Today I want to tell you about a letter that I just sent to Germany's federal minister of health, Nina Warkin.

Because what's happening in Germany right now demands a clear public response from the United States of America. We don't know why, but... I've learned that more than a thousand German physicians and thousands of their patients now face prosecution and punishment for issuing exemptions from wearing masks or or getting COVID-19 vaccines during the pandemic. When any government criminalizes doctors for advising their patients, it crosses a line that free societies have always treated as sacred. In my letter I explain that Germany is targeting physicians who put their patients first.

and punishing citizens for making their own medical choices. The German government is now violating the sacred patient-physician relationship, replacing it with a dangerous system that makes physicians enforcers of state policies. Your health is no longer your doctor's priority under this system. Your doctor instead is serving the welfare of the collective as determined by unelected technocrats with no medical training.

Anybody can see the danger in this system. No democracy grounded in confidence and transparency should move in that direction. Patients must always have the freedom to make personal medical decisions without coercion or political pressure. That principle forms the bedrock of every democratic nation. Okay, well we're gonna remember you said that, RFK Jr. I'm not quite sure why he's doing this other than to get people to smash that like button. It was just like, okay, well, I wish we had had that voice of yours in 2020. 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. And his voice sounds better, actually, when I think about it. That sounds... you can hear him. Yeah. It's better. So another person died. You only know him because we got some donations because of him, Robert Jensen.

Yeah, he's one of your buddies in Holland. Yeah, and I would say one of my friends. Certainly, maybe I talked to three people in Holland still, excluding my daughter. And he had a massive heart attack on Monday at 52. And it's just like, oh man, you know, during COVID he called me up because he had a TV show. It was a fun interview, kind of like a Tonight show vibe with you know people sitting in chairs and Chinese interviewing, but it's funny like a He had a bit of Letterman in there. He was a good guy and he also Came when I was still in downtown Austin in the in the apartment he came by and into he was doing the whole thing about Trump and

And during COVID, his TV show, they wanted to renew him. He said, no, I don't feel like doing it. And then we were talking and I said, well, man, why don't you just do a podcast? And he said, yeah, but you know, advertise. I said, no, just do Value for Value. And he was a very, very successful Value for Value podcaster. He really did a good job. And although he added merch, which I said, why are you doing? But he was, he was making it, he was making the t-shirts in his house. So he had, yeah, I guess if you want to be a hobbyist, merch in your house, cause you got a little room. Whenever he came out with a new hoodie or something, I'd order it. And he was a good guy. And we hadn't spoken for a couple months. It was, which I'm, I guess I'm sad about because he wanted to,

He asked me to come back on, I said, yeah, but I can't do it now. He said, what? Are you mad at me? I said, I'm not mad, I'm just busy. I got other stuff going on. But he had also interviewed David Icke and he had taken such a right-hand turn and his whole demeanor I found to be depressing. Like Icke. You got to be an Icke-ickelite? Yes, an Icke-ite. And I, yeah, like, you know, nothing is real. We don't exist. You know, lizard people. It's all energy. You just happen to see it now. And it was, it was, it was just, he went really far with that and it didn't look like he was happy about it. So I'm sad that I didn't get to talk to him. But a lot, my phone's been ringing all morning. I see you Dutch M5M. I'm not picking up. Like, oh, area code, country code 3-1. Yeah, I'm not picking up.

Oh, please, we want a statement from you about Robert. No. I despise that when people do that. So, anyway. You give them a statement and say, you'll give them a statement if they plug the No Agenda show. What was I thinking? I'm so sorry for that huge No Agenda Show audience. Yes. Well, actually, Holland is a big audience. Yeah. Holland is a meetups, but they know they already know. And then, you know what? They'll cut that out. If I say, you know, you say, well, no agenda show. They'll cut that. They don't. They don't know. You have to tell them you have to have to put it in. It doesn't work like that. You talk for 20 minutes. They do a 30 second soundbite. Well, yeah, they do it. But you wind up hating it. You wind up hating it. And Robert would have hated it, too.

Okay, well, it's your decision. I can't believe it. My friend died. You're bummed the fact that I didn't take advantage of the opportunity to promote the show. You're the best. That's terrible. You're the best. Well, let's make this solemn agreement. Whoever dies first, the other one will use the opportunity to promote the show with whoever's left and Darren. Darren, don't say that Darren will find some way of shooting us. So, but that is life people. That is life. And uh, yeah, I think I have the oldest. That's interesting. I can't imagine anyone just having a meeting with David Icke and then going south. Oh, he totally bought into it. And you know, we both like Ike, you know, I, I guess I like Ike. He's done a lot of really interesting stuff.

But he was, you know, in Ike's world, this just forget about it, you know, the elite... Has Ike ever cracked a smile? Has Ike ever told a joke? Has Ike ever laughed at anything? No! The guy's humorless. Yeah, well that was the direction I felt Robert was going. Yeah, he would smile, he would laugh, but everything was just like, you know, it's like Like Ike has given up, you know, it's like he'll still write books and do his tours and everything But you can't help it. You can't stop it. Trump is one of them. They're all part of it. You know, they're all I didn't know Trump was one of them Oh, yeah No, Trump is gonna bring in the CBDC and the digital ID and the LMNOP and the AI And it's over and you just got to go sit at home and it's just coming just you know, yeah, it's like so

You know, no, no, yeah, you're right. Missing a bit of the humor. And when Robert started, man, it was, he was funny when he started with the, uh, with the podcast. He said some really, like outrageously funny stuff. Anyway, so there you go. The older you get, the more they drop by the wayside. So on that happy note, the astronauts are back. Their mission to the International Space Station was cut short due to a medical concern with a crew member. Officials have not explained the concern, but confirmed that astronaut is stable. So of course we still don't really know who's pregnant, but it probably would be the one female who returned, because that is the show thesis.

On Deutsche Welle though, they brought in an analyst, this is the NASA groupie, and he does have something relatively interesting to say. Well, NASA is bringing a four-person crew back from the International Space Station due to medical issues. It's the first evacuation of its kind. US, Russian and Japanese astronauts undocked from the station after five months in space. NASA has declined to disclose which crew member has the health problem or give details about the issue but the US Space Agency has stressed that the return isn't an emergency. It's great to welcome Keith Cowling back to DW. He's editor of nasawatch.com. Hi Keith. Now this is the first medical evacuation from the ISS in its 25 year history. We don't know what the exact medical problem is but it's evidently serious enough to cut the mission short. How are you reading into this? If somebody, and I don't know who it is or what's wrong with them, if someone was really really sick

They could have been home in a matter of hours. They just get the suits on push a button and come home the fact that it takes a few days, they're all happy and smiling makes me think that if anything It's probably something as simple as they don't have a cat scanner up there They have a lot of medical devices medicines, but there's some medical gear that you just don't have in space and and to adequately help this person, the smart thing is to bring them home. And they're more or less at the end of their stay up there. So a lot of work has not been sacrificed as a result. Wait, what an apology. This is not an emergency. It's just expedited or quick or a short end to a long trip. Who cares? Very suspicious. I think you're spot on, man. And notice the black guy stayed behind. He didn't leave. Just saying.

Well, got some got some jungle fever and well, yeah, you might know that's pushing it I mean it's possible But whatever the case was I'm sure I have night see the question I'd be asking if I was a reporter in this situation I'd say is it I would have asked a pregnancy question right away. Of course. Oh But I also want to say, is there anything that anyone has to sign to refrain from sex when they're... This is an interesting question that people would want to know. Do you have to... Do you sign a document, an NDA of sorts, that says you have to refrain from sex while you're in the space of

Station do you have to is there anything like that that's signed or do you have to agree? Especially if you're a female to not have sex. Okay, you get a waiver from HR or something. I mean Well, you're in outer space because they don't want anybody having sex in outer space because they don't know what the results would be for the baby and there's all these issues you can expect and if you get pregnant you won't fit into the suit and I mean that's the thing it seems to me. Thank you very much for the art, Comic Strip Blogger. We'll be thanking you more. Yes, Comic Strip Blogger nailed it. Nailed it. He nailed it. Yeah, the pregnant girl in a pregnant suit. We deserve an answer. I think we should know this. You know, this great expense. We brought them back. It's not cheap. And they're going out of their way to avoid saying what it is. Why? What is it? A hangnail? Is it a toenail? Ingrown toenail? I mean, what's the point of keeping it a big secret? Somebody got, you know, have some ulcers. I mean, what could it be? Upset tummy.

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And now she's back and of course she shows up on CBS with her BFF, Gail. Oprah reveals how she went from blaming and shaming herself to transforming her health. The book is co-written by Dr. Anya Yastroboff. She's the founding director of Yale Obesity Research Center and an expert in obesity and GLP-1 based medications. We're very happy to say that Oprah and Dr. Anya are here in the studio with us. Good morning, good morning girls. Good to have you here. Hi Dr. Anya. I wanted to share because I've always, when I discovered something that I thought was important for other people, I always wanted to share it. I remember doing a show many years ago and Janet Jackson was on it and lost weight and I said, if there's ever a pill, I will be the first

on to tell you about it. And so now there actually is a pill, but more importantly than the pill is understanding that obesity is a disease. And if you have this chronic disease, it is not because you are overeating. It's because you have the disease that causes you to overeat. And I did not know this until... What's the bacterial agent or viral agent that causes this disease? What? You're going to get technical now? I'm just asking, disease is... we know what the definition of disease is. It's something that's caused by a viral or bacterial agent or some parasite perhaps. Well, that depends. It can be dis-ease. You're just at dis-ease. You know, it depends on how you... Oh, dis-ease. Oh yeah, you're not at ease. Yes. Oh, I get it. Dis-ease. And I did not know this until...

2023. For so long when I was raised we always thought just willpower because I was at Weight Watchers and got my key to success three times and thought now I'm done now it's just a matter of willpower and you're saying Dr. Anya no matter how much you do and how much willpower you think you have that is not enough. So now I realize that I'm on the medications and will have to be on the medications if I want to for the rest of my life because I did a whole year last year from my 70th birthday until my 71st birthday. I tried to be without the medication. You stopped taking them? I stopped taking them. And what happened? Because I wanted to prove you wrong. Yes.

I have reached the weight, the goal weight and I can fix it. And what happened is I gained 3 pounds and 5 pounds and 7 pounds. Oh no! Were you eating more food? No I wasn't. No I wasn't eating anything. You're drinking water. I was doing all the things. Magic! And still gain weight. Over Christmas I gained 8 pounds and then you know. So I thought I thought, maybe you're right, maybe the science is right, and I got back on the medication. The science. The science is right. And along with that comes more native advertising. Listen to this report. Weight loss medications like Wigovi and Ozempic have changed the game for people looking to... Notice how Wigovi is now first. It used to be like Ozempic and then there'd be all the other ones. Now Wigovi, who are the ones footing the bill,

They're the ones that are first. Weight loss medications like Wago-V and Ozempic have changed the game for people looking to shed a few pounds. However, new research shows people who stop taking the drugs could see an increased risk of diabetes and heart disease. The study, published in the British Medical Journal, reviewed the trials of more than 6,000 adults who use GLP-1s and other weight loss drugs. The results are a cautionary tale, as people who went off the meds regained weight almost four times faster than those who simply stopped exercising or didn't stick to a healthy diet. That rapid weight gain then had a domino effect on overall health, as people then had an increased risk of developing conditions like high cholesterol and high blood pressure.

Doctors say the findings point to how these medications are not a quick fix and anyone looking to take the drugs should consider the long-term effects. Yeah, and otherwise you take it you can't stop taking it. But this is good news according to CNBC. Wall Street is happy. Airlines are going to... headline... Airlines will save big money on fuel as new weight loss pills gain popularity. Yeah, that's not a native ad. That's a good one. These guys are so shameless. Analysts at Jeffrey say broad adoption across society could quietly lower fuel bills. I'm all in on it. I think it's also going to save on pavement, on the traffic. There you go. You won't have to pave the road so much because all these fat people won't be driving. There's a lot of benefits. Well that's only if we get it on Medicare. Only then. Only then will it... this push is coming again.

We got to get it in. We got to get it in. It's a happening. Got to get it. Make the insurers pay for it. Everybody. It's all good. It's fabulous. So that was your native ad of the day. There's some a lot going on. They have to stop. Kennedy, you brought him up earlier. He's bitching him on it. Germany, who cares? But they do. And Canada did it too, by the way. Didn't say anything to them. Why doesn't he say something about this, about these advertise... He was one of his things, just stop letting these guys advertise on TV. And that would include native advertising. Well, it clearly doesn't. Because they're not doing any disclaimers at all. At all. In fact, I think I had a... Actually, you're right, because native advertising is more effective because they don't have to do the disclaimers. In fact, I think I saw a report, which we didn't talk about on the last show, that the FDA, yes,

Where was this? The FDA said the weight loss guys can take off the warning that it could cause suicidal tendencies or self-harm thoughts, as we call it now, because there's no evidence of it. The FDA was saying that to the weight loss people. And I'm still waiting for... for the erectile dysfunction benefit. It's a company. Yeah, yeah. That's it. This is I don't think they're going to need to do it. That's the rabbit out of a hat. Once once it goes there, man, boom, boom. We're all good. Give me that stuff. So I got a I got a disturbing, disturbing email conversation this morning with boots on the ground.

And it pertains to this particular story, which of course really has nothing to do with X other than the UK doesn't like people being able to speak out freely on X and have that flow through everywhere in the UK. We can't have that. Here's the report and I'll tell you what the boots on the ground report was. Facing pressure from governments around the world, Elon Musk is reining in his controversial AI tool, Grok. On Wednesday, X announced that it would no longer generate undressed images of real people in jurisdictions where this is illegal. It was a welcome development in the UK. By the way, we called this, we called this right away. This is a big feature, put a bikini on her, big feature. Where Grok and X are under investigation for generating sexualized deepfakes of women and children. If UK watchdog Ofcom determines the platform has broken the law, it can fine X for up to 10% of its global revenue.

been informed this morning that X is acting to ensure full compliance with UK law. If so, that is welcome, but we're not going to back down. We will strengthen existing laws and prepare for legislation if it needs to go further. The limits imposed on Grok's image generation came hours after California prosecutors also opened a probe into the chatbot. Amid backlash last week, Grok limited the ability to create AI images to paying subscribers. But this was far from enough for women's rights groups who called for X and Grok to be removed from app stores. Listen to this definition. Decrying this new widespread form of sexual abuse. We are really imploring Apple and Google to take this extremely seriously. They are

enabling a system in which thousands, if not tens of thousands, of people, particularly women and children, are being sexually abused through the help of their own app stores. So this is now sexual abuse? Yeah, and this is really about all the bikini pictures of star mer Kids Put a bikini on their little kid. No, let's put a bikini on star mer and they keep doing it There's any since they're talking as some of the star mer stuff's hilarious. I have one clip about something something

Adjacent to this well can I can I get my boots on the ground before you move on and move off the time? Maybe this adjacent clip might okay, and the boots on the ground, okay? Ava your buddy. Oh, but you actually clipped that I was like this is FAA fo It wasn't surprising to me. Well, we'll play it. I thought it was surprising to me. What do you mean? She was out there protesting with Tommy Robinson. Okay, I won't play the clip. No, we'll play it. No, no, I want to play it because when I see people, of course, 50 people sent this to me, tagged me in every post. I'm like, what do you mean? Because you're her friend. I have never met the woman.

Well, she should be your friend. So I just got an email I didn't expect. I have officially been banned from traveling to the United Kingdom. I'm not allowed to enter the country. It's actually, I'll just call it what it is. What she did here is engagement farming. I mean, if you're going to go out there and into the UK, which is not part of the EU anymore, in case you hadn't noticed, and you're going to say, hey, You guys suck Keir Starmer you suck and then you're we do that here We do that here you I mean like if you want to come in and we see that you say America sucks Okay, you all you played the important part of the clip. No, I want to play anymore I want to play the whole thing now is the UK government under Keir Starmer deems my presence in the UK and I quote not conducive to the public good

I don't know what that means, since when is being conducive to the public good a requirement to enter a country? I mean, especially... You're undesirable is what you are. ...the United Kingdom where, if I'm not mistaken, thousands of illegal immigrants... Oh, okay, this is what we're going to do. Oh yeah, but all the illegal immigrants could come in, but I can't come in. This is engagement farming. ...enter through the channel every day. And you gotta do it. That's what she does. She's good at it. You gotta do it in your car. That's the best. Why don't we do this show from the car? I am in the car. I'm in the car as we speak. Nobody's asking them to be conducive to the public good, but I cannot come. And now this email came out of the blue in a sense that I didn't apply for

and eat now. I went back in September to join the Tommy Robinson rally where I spoke. Yeah, there it is. And I'm planning, I was planning I should say, to do that again in May. Guess not. Guess not. And now the timing is quite suspicious, isn't it? Suspicious? It's hmm, hmm. I'm just asking questions. She's the Candace Owens of the hallway. Because three days ago I posted this. about Keir Starmer calling out his hypocrisy that he wants to ban X because of women's safety whilst at the same time he's the one who's allowing these migrant gang rapes to happen. Obviously he's just doing that because he wants to ban free speech and that is also the reason why I am now not anymore allowed to go to the UK. But it's pretty dystopian. I mean it's a very severe limitation of my freedom and

As it says in the email, I cannot appeal. I cannot appeal. I'm not convicted of any crime. I'm not under suspicion of any crime. They just decided, Kirstarmer just decided that someone like me is not welcome in the UK. Yes, well yes, you're a troublemaker and you're hanging out with troublemakers and they don't want you there. And by the way, why do you care? Because it's so great? It's cold, it's wet, the buildings are ugly and cold. You don't want to go there. There's no reason for you to go. But you want to go to Harrods? Well, all you see is Muslim women all over the place. It's not fun anymore. I love the... I think they have some pretty good jams at Fortnum & Mason. Well, you can order those online. Yeah, but you know, the price of shipping is ridiculous. So one of our producers, who's a dude named Ben, at Grok, says...

And this was an interesting back and forth. He says, I don't know what to do. I just reached out to you. Okay. It's regarding sexually explicit images of minors being created by Grok on its own, he says, he claims. Without evidence not evidence despite prompts explicitly requesting the opposite I have photos and screenshots and copies of prompts currently Elon says all of the explicitly sexual content is being generated because of user prompts I have proof that Elon is absolutely wrong my response was Do not repeat do not send me anything do not have any of this so-called evidence on your device

Because that is a very dangerous situation because they'll be used against you. And Elon, indeed, is saying, what did he say here? I'm not aware of any naked underage images generated by Grok. But wait, what's going to be used against you again? If you have, if you have... If I have a prompt saying put a bikini on this kid? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This, he says that there are underage minors that are being depicted by Grok you know, in a sexual way. So I said, I do not send me any pictures. That's what I said. I learned that from you. Oh, you're so, okay, I'm missing up who's talking here. Yeah. And I say, you shouldn't have them either because that will be used against you. Get rid of it. Yes. And this is the reason that I've said this before. I'll say it again.

You get a 22 terabyte hard drive. I don't know if you ordered yours. I did. All it does is collect all the evidence against you because we don't do any cleanup anymore. When I was a kid, we had a hard disk. It was a nine. 9 megabyte hard disk and you clean it up because you'd run out of room. And so you'd go and take old files off. No, nobody does that anymore. You just accumulate everything you've ever done. It builds up and builds up. And then when the FBI takes the hard disk, there's definitely something on there that shouldn't be. Always, always, always, there's always something on that shouldn't be there. Meanwhile, there has been a change, although this is funny window dressing, I feel. Keir Starmer has announced the digital ID. Well, we've got a change in mind for that. The government has confirmed that it is to scrap the compulsory element of its flagship digital ID scheme, which was supposed to deter people from traveling to the UK to work illegally.

Sakeer Starmer unveiled the policy last autumn as part of a crackdown on migration. But in the latest in a series of U-turns, the government has announced that workers will be given the chance to use other forms of ID to verify their eligibility. What a trap he set. This is great. Ah, okay, it's not going to be used for that. Oh, I just might as well get it. It's easy. I never knew it was going to be used. I thought it was just going to be used for surveillance. No, well, duh. But they were selling it. The whole selling point was If you don't have a digital ID, you can't work. And now it's like, well, we're not going to make it like that. So don't worry about it. You might as well just download it and use it. It's going to be fine. It's a trap. It's a trap. Are they going ahead with this? Oh, yeah, of course. Idiots. That's fantastic. It's great.

So Johnny Ive and Sam Altman, this is all the rumor mill, but you know, the Chinese factory... Johnny Ives. Johnny Ives. I'm Johnny Ive and I invented the iPhone. So, you know, there's this long rumored open AI device that people are talking about, which of course is necessary because open AI is falling behind in my opinion. behind, certainly behind Gemini, now who just signed the big Apple deal. Do you think that Apple is going to get paid by, like the way they were paid by Google to put Google search as the default? That's what I would do. I would do it too. So apparently, open AI to go, code name Sweet Pea, it'll be a little tiny little thing you put behind your ear.

Okay, a little egg-shaped case right behind the I guess they're gonna use bone induction Then it will be your assistant in daily life. So as you're looking at somebody God if there's anything in the world I don't want is that Some little thing carping at me about one thing or another move away. This guy's no good He has a very low credit score move away move away a little credit score ahead If that wasn't bad enough, the War Department has launched its AI acceleration strategy to secure American military AI dominance. I won't even read it to you. It's so dumb. More AI in the War Department. Swarmforge. Yeah, some of these names are cool. In warfighting. Swarmforge.

Why is Swarmforge doesn't even make any sense? Well, let's listen to the definition. Competitive mechanism to iterate, discover, test and scale novel ways of fighting with and against AI-enabled capabilities. It sounds like they hired someone from Silicon Valley to write that copy. Combining America's elite warfighting units with elite technology innovators. Yes, I think you're right. Swarmforge. I want a badge. Want to write that down swarm forge swarm sword then we have agent network unleashing AI agent development and experimentation for AI enabled battle management and decision support from campaign planning to kill chain execution This is what killed chain execution yes

This is Silicon Valley talk then we have the enders got in there from Silicon Valley with all this gobbledygook Google I think mainly Enders foundry enders foundry Accelerating AI enabled simulation capabilities and sim dev and sim ops feedback loop dev to

Open Arsenal is no good. No, I like swarmforged though. I like that. I don't know why you like that. Wording doesn't make any sense. Swarmforged. The whole thing doesn't make any sense if you think of the two words. I think swarmforged should be an Eagle Scout badge you can get. I got my swarmforged. Show title, put it down in the list. Oh, I wrote it down. And then of course the last thing on the big tech agenda was the big outage! The big outage! And good evening, we begin tonight with the nation's largest cell phone service provider in the middle of one of the worst outages ever. Customers across the country unable to call, text or scroll. It's kind of like Iran. As the company scrambles to get fully back up and running. How pathetic are we as a nation? Let's just listen to it.

to call. Yeah, it was here to go. Customers across the country unable to call, text or scroll. Oh no, my life is over. I can't call, text or scroll. Oh, what am I going to do? As the company scrambles to get fully back up and running. Scroll what? Huh? Scroll what? I can scroll. Not with a... Please, please let's not go through this loop again where you tell everybody that you're great on the computer, you got a desktop and you can scroll. People don't even have... No, no, I can scroll on a phone with Verizon being out. What are you going to scroll? Like a text? Like just like a... There's stuff on the phone to scroll. Look at this map. These are just some of the most populated areas of the country and the hardest hit by the outage.

This is what many customers saw today on their phones, the dreaded SOS meaning no bars and no service. Oh no! It's dreaded! City officials from New York to Charlotte to DC even warning that impacted customers might not be able to get through to 911. Now Verizon is racing to fix the problem and find out what exactly went wrong. Brian Chung is following all of it for us tonight. Well Brian Chung, guess who they blame? It's almost like us blaming Canada. I don't know who they... would they blame Putin? I don't know. No, New Jersey.

Your call cannot be completed at this time. Verizon customers across the country cut off by a massive network outage. The trouble began around noon Eastern time with the outage tracking website downdetector.com listing New York, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta and Miami as among the places with the most reported issues. Emergency management teams in multiple cities warning that people may not be able to call 911. If you have access to a landline, use that. and if that is impossible go to a police precinct or go to a firehouse. Verizon customers taking to social media expressing outrage that they couldn't contact loved ones. Baby, this is unacceptable. Or stay great Nat Pop connected for work. Verizon counter days because I literally had to stop at Starbucks.

Verizon telling NBC News that their team was on the ground actively working to fix the issue, adding that we know this is a huge inconvenience. The company did not provide a reason for the outage. Verizon, with more than 146 million wireless customers, often promotes itself as the most reliable network with its famous catch line. There's only one best 5G. Do you hear me now? But tonight, the advice from officials for when you can't? It's also a good reminder for people to have an emergency plan, to have backups, plan A, plan B. Yeah. Ham radio is your backup. Ham radio. Have you seen the new bow fangs? The new what? The new bow fangs.

Uh, no, I haven't. Oh man, they're completely digital. They got a huge... still 35 bucks. Still 35 bucks! It's so cheap! It's still 30... and you can get 10 watts out of them, which of course is outside of the realm of legality according to the SEC. Well, it's also not too good for your health or this... blister your head. Yeah, well, that's true. So, anyway, I have other clips, but it turns out it was a software glitch in New Jersey. Okay. What kind of world are we the internet everything it's also centralized is this is not how we designed it John you and I and we sat down like we're not gonna we shouldn't design this this way the whole idea of the internet was designed to withstand a Nuclear attack. Yes. That was the idea that was let's set up a network that you could whatever happens you can bomb New York City without with a

H-bomb and then the network would still be going because it goes from here and if it gets blocked here it goes around and it goes over there here then it goes around and so when did that change to like three nodes? That's what it is. Although you know I have a of the Galaxy new Galaxy phone that I got the flip flip phone Because I need to do real business. So now I'm tracked. But it does, it is one of those phones that can talk to... What real business are you doing that you need to be tracked? No, not tracked. I need to be able to communicate with people who are on iPhones.

You can't do that with your other phone? If you don't have an RCS compatible phone, which is the supposed to be the hybrid so that iPhones and Android phones can talk to each other when you're texting, the chances are that your message won't come through, will get missed, you get kicked out of a group, are very high. Oh no. Yeah. So yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. I have a business. I'm running a business over here. It's called Godcaster. You know that. Guess so Godcaster requires you to be in the in the network to be tracked well No, it requires me to be able to communicate with the worst communicators in the world which are pastors Yeah, so But by default then you get tracked of course. Let's just have a second phone What difference does it make okay? All right? Thanks? Well because you can drive around without the second phone well I guess I'm driving around with my phone

When I'm driving, I'm driving. I'm not on my phone. I'm not texting people. I'm listening to podcasts. That's why I'm imagining you on the phone texting while driving and then holding the phone up to your ear and yelling at somebody. I barely drive. And then just missing an old lady in the street because you weren't paying attention. Yeah, this is what I'm seeing. I'm visualizing it. I don't even drive. There's nowhere to go. HEB is three minutes away. I'm not a driver anymore. I'm just an old coot doing a podcast. Thanks. You've got me, finally. You go to San Antone. Oh yeah, big trip to San Antone. Big smoke everybody going to San Antone. Yeah, no the two big trips I make are to the hair girl and to Rogan. That's about it. When have you done Rogan last? Yeah, it's been a while.

hurting the show. Oh, please. Go do Rogan. I've been on Rogan six times. Hey, we got a donation today. I was just looking at the notes and somebody credited your visit to Megyn Kelly for the donation. That happens. Yeah, I think that's great. She's also not burning down the phone here. Well, she doesn't... you don't even like her. I do like her. I like her a lot, but, you know, I'm not in the circle. Remember when I was... the last time I was on and she bumped me like five times for Glenn Beck? Because, you know, what happened? Something happened. Yeah, you called her out for Putin hate. You look like a Putin apologist. You're in the list of Putin-esque. That's what it was. Yes, you're right. Yeah, well, my mistake. You and Putin, you guys, you should get a room. All right. All right. I know you got some clips, but I have to play this because there's a big change. Big change. Big thing happened.

For the first time since we've been doing this show, since the IPCC was the Paris Agreement, I should say, it was not 2025 was no longer the hottest year on record. This is amazing. Global temperatures in 2025 was slightly lower than 2024, but that still makes it the third hottest year on record across the globe. Third! Oh brother, you came up with something. The third! The third! The top 10. A study by the Met Office and European Climate Scientists also found it was the third year in a row in which temperatures reached more than 1.4 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. Dr. Samantha Burgess is the Deputy Director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service. She told me what this all means for the planet. Yeah, so the key findings from this year's report was that 2025 was the third warmest year on record after 24 and 2023.

The global temperature anomaly was 1.47 degrees above the pre-industrial average, which is an average of the global climate before significant human impact on the climate from burning fossil fuels. And 2025 marks three years above 1.5 degrees. And this is important as we're now 10 years on from the Paris Agreement where almost every nation committed to lower global warming to well below 2 degrees and ideally below 1.5 degrees. So ideally so so it's working if you want to you could also report wow it's working everybody everyone is driving electric cars and it's fantastic and and we've we're not number three this is classic what you just said yeah you can report it any way you want you can report it as a good thing or the reversal and you could actually I think that's the mistake they just made it they made the mistake they should say

Thanks to our efforts, electrolyzing, electrifying this and that, this is working and it looks like things may be going in the right direction. No, no, they don't do that. It's gloom and doom, no matter what. Yeah, it's bull crap, that's why. All right, what you got and I'll let you go. I got a bunch of stuff. I think this deportation, the Sudan clips which I had from Al Jazeera... Oh, this is not widely reported? No, it's not. You know, Trump has decided, you know, the Trump administration has decided to ship people to Africa when they deport them. Okay.

And so now the big move is to ship them to South Sudan. And so, here's some background on it. This is, I guess, three clips. Four actually, it's interesting. Well, you have two Sudan number twos, so it'll be interesting to see which one I'm supposed to play. Are they the same time? No. One is two minutes and one is one minute and five seconds. Okay, one of them is obviously the third. Yeah, obviously, just which one is what we don't know. Well, we don't know. Let's play the intro. We'll play the intro first and then we'll figure it out. And these are democratic values that we remember, Stephanie, that we're hard-fought for and blood was shed for us to gain independence and for us to gain this democracy that we are seeing fail at this moment. So we must stand up and say no, we're not going to. Wait, what is happening here? What is going on? Okay, he starts, I had this, I couldn't start, I couldn't play the whole bit, it was a half hour.

So he's going on about Sudan being a democracy. Who? Who's going on about Sudan? One of the Al Jazeera Sudan experts. Oh, okay. And so he's going on about how they can't put up with having a bunch of people shipped there from the United States where they don't know anything about anything and they're not Sudanese. And so it just starts off as a rant and And it resolves itself as the clips continue. And these are democratic values that we remember, Stephanie, that we had fought for and blood was shed for us to gain independence and for us to gain this democracy that we are seeing fail at this moment. So we must stand up and say, no, we're not going to allow our leaders to get into these agreements without consulting us, the people, without consulting civil society.

and worst of all, Ines Watini, without consulting parliament, who actually has the sovereign right, according to the constitution, to scrutinize whatever agreement our executive gets into. Absolutely, I'm picking up on that point. There are also a lot of articles I was reading really underlying the racist tone of this from the Trump administration. Now more and more African content creators are expressing frustrations over why their content is being used for these deporting schemes, like this gentleman on TikTok. So what, we're just dropping them off? We're just flying them over there and dropping them off? Are these— Well, we intend to. From what I can tell. And so basically, we're supposed...and the agreement, the way I understand it, is that we're not just dropping him off, we're putting him in prisons over there, and then the Sudanese will have to deal with him whatever they want to do. They can take him in and they can kick him out or...

release. I mean, this is it's almost comical. But let's let's start with the two minute clip. Well, there's this the situation of these deals around these deals adds further complexity to South Sudan or the fragile environments in illustrating how external powers of the government can do, or they want the money? I doubt if it is just the money. Because the countries are not really uniform. There are countries where people actually could get some small money. But the people behind this decision in South Sudan are very wealthy. And actually, they got into a problem because of corruptions in the past, and there had been sanctions by the U.S.

And they were hoping that if they could do a deal like this, those sanctions might be lifted or at least some ease on those sanctions from the US. So it's a bit different from a country to a country, but the fundamental similarity is really the vulnerability of the countries that are being targeted. Yes, we heard that there have been countries who have rejected this and they're not sending them to Italy or to Malaysia. But Lucie, Trump is not the first US president to carry out deportations. We saw it under George W. Bush. We saw it under Barack Obama. But he's doing it in a very different way. Why is that?

I think, as I mentioned earlier, Stephanie, they are parading what it means to an American. And it goes back to this conversation around bolstering their exceptionalism. Because they can see that their power is waning around the world. Nobody is taking them as serious as perhaps they would have post-Cold War. And I think they are now using these deputations as a sort of a weapon to say it costs so much to an American and it's going to cost as much to get into a trade deal with us. This is really risky to play all this Africa news this early in the show. It might hurt the show. Well, it's so funny that the idea of this, I think it was missing the point about shipping these guys off to God knows where Africa. You know, you got a deportee and he's like a bad guy. And so you were gonna ship him, drop him off in Africa. This is not like sending him across the border, kicking him off, you know, kicking him in the butt on the Mexican border and saying, get out of here. No.

There's a couple of interesting historical aspects. Eisenhower deported a bunch of people and shipped them all to the Yucatan Peninsula, someplace where there's nothing to do there. What kind of people? Were they illegal immigrants? There was Mexican, you know, Mexicans, but they were, they put them, sent them to a part of Mexico that they're not from, and it was like a pain in the ass when they got there, how to get out of here. And so then, if you recall during the era of the show, the British wanted to send their guys off to Rwanda. Yeah. Which I thought was funny. Yeah. And so we're going to ship you, you know, coming here illegally, you're going to Rwanda. And so, which is kind of a, the whole idea is to discourage people from coming in. Yes. From coming in because you're going to end up in the middle of nowhere, Africa.

And then now what are you gonna do? How do you get out of there? So, you know, that's kind of the thing. Whether you get thrown in a jail or not, it doesn't matter. Just drop them off. Uh, so I find it to be kind of interesting and they're not doing it though. I mean, there's a separate, I hadn't even heard about it. I don't know why Sudan is all upset that I haven't heard the president out there saying we're shipping you off to Sudan. This has been going on. It's been negotiating. They're trying to do a deal with the South Sudanese government. Oh, okay. Pay him money. We're going to give you a couple hundred bucks per guy and we're going to drop these guys off. You can do what, You're supposed to put him in jail, but you can do what you want. Who gives a crap? So basically what we're hearing on Al Jazeera is a bunch of Sudanese Democrats who hate Trump.

Basically, that's what you're hearing, yeah. But the fact that this kind of stuff is going on in the background, to me, seems at least amusing as hell. We all got news that the United States deported some of the violent criminals, as they call it, to some of our African countries. They deported some to Eswatini. They also deported some of them to South Sudan. Why is it that whenever they want to dump their stops or they want to dump anything and now that it has to do with these violent criminals the best place that they think they should deport these people to come on Africa yeah why is it do we do with their expired drugs like I said before it's fire drugs go to Africa they will start coming for our videos they will start flagging us and all of that but

But why? Why is it that? Why not? They always think that all the bad things should always go to Africa when they want to carry out their test, when they need human beings to use like guinea pigs to carry out their test, their trial processes. It's Africa. Bill Gates. What's your reaction to that? You feel the same way? OK. All right. So now finally we come to the end of the series. OK. And there's something in here. This is a WTF clip, which means there's something Either particularly odd or particularly funny. Daniel, I want to broaden this out at this point. When we talk about immigration, migration, of course, this is due to a lot of social and economic reasons. But, you know, many are also now talking about climate change. There is going to be more and more migration from areas like Africa, for example, to further north because places are simply going to become uninhabitable. Haven't you heard?

Last year was number three on the list. It's going down. It's okay. All right. That was your Africa news. Please let me play your Iran killings clip unless you have a different Iran clip. Do I have any Iran clips? Yeah, Iran killings right here. Iran killings. Okay, let's play Iran killings. Flight of momentary a posture shift from the president's escalating threats against the Iranian regime over the past few weeks. That's as anti-Iranian regime protests have grown as has the regime's crackdown on protesters with horrifying footage of body bags at Tehran's morgues and now showing us a glimpse of that

of that bloody crackdown as authorities have also blocked the internet off there since Thursday. And President Trump has in recent weeks said that help is on the way at one point saying that the US is locked and loaded and ready to go, urging protesters to keep protesting. On Monday, the US State Department urged Americans to leave Iran, but now President Trump saying he's been told on quote good authority that the killing has stopped. Take a look. We have been informed by very important sources on the other side and they've said the killing has stopped and the executions won't take place. There was supposed to be a lot of executions today and that the executions won't take place and we're going to find out. This comes a day after President Trump warned of a very strong action in response to reports of the regime hanging those detained during the protests.

He says he's watching Iran as the Pentagon today withdraws some troops from a key base in Qatar, echoing a move taken before US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities back in June. Yeah, I question this 12,000 killed. To me, this feels like a an EU move? I question all of it. I mean, the information is coming from very sketchy sources and the internet guy, I mean, there's troublemakers everywhere. I mean, as possible as 20,000 dead, they could have whole cities could be wiped out. But the one thing they were going to do, and because they said they were, and I think it may not happen now, is that there's one kid, this 26 year old that they're cited

This could be bullshit too, but they cited him as the first guy. They're gonna hang they're gonna hang him But they're not just gonna hang him. They were gonna hang him from a crane So it's like if one of those five-story Cranes you know that goes way up to the service buildings and whatever this big giant crane in the middle of Tehran They were gonna have him dangling from that it was pretty gruesome the idea, but it was like to show a force will show them and And that would have ended the regime. Yeah, but to me it feels like this is meant somehow to drag us in or distract attention. It seems like the president is kind of like, well, you know, they said the killings are stopped. It doesn't really sound like we're going to do anything. He's talked a bit about it.

But it just sounds like, no, stay away. He's got much bigger things he's doing. And to me, you know, the whole Shah of Iran, it's all France. France has got to be involved in this if it's an op. And this was funny, Brett Baier on Fox, he had an interview with Iran's foreign minister. And he's discussing it with, what's his face, John Roberts. It was kind of interesting what the foreign minister came up with. It's a classic. And essentially what he's saying is that this was a Mossad operation from Israel. Yeah, there we go. They looked like Iranian agents designed to kill a large number of people.

And that was designed to spark President Trump's action into Iran. And I said, Mr. Foreign Minister, if that's true, you don't have control of your country. Because there are agents all over the place killing people indiscriminately in the streets. And we went round and round. Also, he said it was designed to taunt President Trump. But if anybody's taunting President Trump, it is the Ayatollah himself, the Supreme Leader. Yeah, because he took to ecstasy some things about the president. And also there's this headline in the New York Post that the Iranian state TV posted an image of President Trump at the Butler rally as the Secret Service is whisking him off the stage.

and said with the caption, this time it will not miss its target which is more than a failed threat of assassination against the president which I'm sure will only serve to piss him off. I say put a bikini on him. If we're gonna do X wars we might as well. This is stupid. Something is very fishy about this. It doesn't smell right at all. I gotta... So the crown prince quote-unquote who lives in in the DC area. He wanted to go meet with Trump as we heard from Roz the squirrel spook and Trump said, nah. And he said, why don't you go meet with Whitcoff and Rubio over there? Go meet at some other place. I'm not interested in talking to you. So one of our boots on the ground says, we know the young Shah well. This is the crown prince. In fact, I did some formation flying with him just three months ago.

He was flying with a former US Air Force Thunderbird pilot. And let's see, he has no interest in becoming a monarch and only wants to help usher in a transition to a functional democracy. That sounds like dubious. It's all, the whole thing is dubious. And here's a report from France 24. The woman you'll hear speaking is a representative from Chatham House, which is basically the... Spook MI6. MI6, Council on Foreign Relations. The protests in Iran, which have been met by a bloody response, were sparked by economic distress. The collapse of Iran's currency and soaring prices to impart international sanctions. As the opposition has grown to challenge the regime, experts say there are doubts about whether it has the structure and momentum to endure.

It's not as if the Iranian diaspora over 50 years has created a unified, integrated protest movement. It's very fractured. It's not united. Some Iranians are putting their hope in the son of the last Shah of Iran, deposed in 1979. Reza Pavlavi now lives in exile in the U.S. And speaking to Fox News, he said he could lead a transition to a democratic system. We have come to the point where people are just fed up with this regime. They are saying death to the dictator. They want to liberate themselves. And their demand for freedom is met with the most brutal reaction by a regime that is waging war on its own citizens.

Heir to a dictatorial regime and thought to be close to the Israeli government, it's unclear if Pavlavi has wide support among Iranians who oppose the Islamic Republic. The People's Mujahideen of Iran, based in France, sought to represent an alternative to the monarchists, but was seen as having lost credibility after siding with Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War. And minorities in Iran, such as the Kurds, have political agendas of their own that go beyond regime change. of activism and ideas and agency that exists inside the country, but many Iranian opposition figures and leaders are in Iran's jails. In the past, the Islamic Republic has eventually crushed any attempt to organize resistance, and many are now wondering if this time will be different.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Well, we had a clip on the last show that they're releasing some of these prisoners, so there's that. Yeah, I don't know. It just, it feels like it's just been started up as a thing. I mean, even when I talked to Lex, he's like, you know, there's some protesting. It felt like a lot. And also, a lot of the video you're seeing isn't even from Iran. It's Egypt. It's all other countries. You can't trust what you're seeing on social media. No, you can't trust anything you see online. You can't even trust us. Well, you can trust us. Oh, OK. Just checking. What are you thinking? OK, let's talk about Greenland for a moment because

This is, uh, we've got to figure this out. And it seems like... Well, here we go. Let's start with ABC. Tonight as President Trump escalates his push to take over Greenland, top officials from Greenland and Denmark traveling to Washington to plead their case to the vice president and secretary of state. But they emerged saying the two sides have a quote fundamental disagreement. We didn't manage to change the American position. It's clear that the president has this wish of conquering over Greenland. We made it very, very clear that this is not in the interest of the kingdom. Trump says the U.S. needs Greenland for national security and has not ruled out using military force to get it. I would like to make a deal, you know, the easy way, but if we don't do it the easy way, we're going to do it the hard way. Denmark, our NATO ally, says they're happy to work with the U.S. to bolster security in the region.

But that doesn't mean that we want to be owned by a United States. A new poll shows 86% of voters, including 68% of Republicans, oppose using military force to seize Greenland. And as Trump ramps up his threats, Denmark now increasing their military presence in Greenland and asking other NATO allies to help. Sweden today also sending troops. Tonight Republican Senator Mitch McConnell warning if the US takes on a NATO ally it would be incinerating the hard-won trust of loyal allies. But President Trump insists NATO would be stronger with Greenland quote in the hands of the United States. Adding anything less than that is unacceptable. And we'll see how it all works out. I think something will work out.

And David, we have just learned that France, at the request of Denmark, is also sending military forces to Greenland. And again, President Trump says this is all about national security. He says Russia and China are poised to take Greenland, but the officials visiting here today insist that's simply not true. They say they haven't seen a Chinese warship. in Greenland in over a decade. But both sides tonight agreeing to keep talking. So this is the big news in Europe. Everybody's talking about all the troops going to Greenland and they're doing NATO exercises. NATO forces are on exercise in Greenland at a time when American designs on the island threaten the alliance's very existence.

NATO has not confirmed its approval of the drills, which reportedly involve troops from Sweden, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Canada. Hosts Denmark framed it as part of a bolstering of Greenland's defences. It is within the framework of NATO that we are conducting these activities and it is Denmark as the host country that has taken these initiatives. Therefore I cannot imagine nor do I want to speculate that a NATO country would attack. France says it's acting in full solidarity with Denmark. Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu warned that Washington must be taken at its word. It is clear that the intentions of the Trump administration are serious and that we must absolutely not underestimate the words of the American president. NATO Chief Mark Rutter will meet a delegation from Denmark and Greenland on Monday in Brussels.

It's unclear whether this particular exercise, Operation Arctic Endurance, is anything but routine. There have been many similar drills in recent years. The latest in September was called Arctic Light. It involved more than 550 troops, including military observers from the United States. Observing from afar is the covetous eye of the man in the White House, who continues to say that the US needs Greenland. The covetous eye. You know, this also may be purely, I mean, it's obvious that the, the, the, the Greenland, Iceland, UK gap, the GIU gap that that's, you know, we have to be there. I mean, these are all the shipping routes. There's a lot of shipping going on and for them to say, well, I've never seen any, of course there's all kinds of Chinese shipping going on all the time. Chinese, Russian, et cetera. It's, it's like the, the Straits of Hormuz, you know, I think they were talking about

Chinese flag, you're doing most of the Chinese stuff. Oh, well, flag, sure, okay. Rutte looks like a deer in the headlights. Come on in, Mark, what do you got to say? All Allies agree on the importance of the Arctic and Arctic security because we know that with sea lanes opening up there is a risk that the Russians and the Chinese will be more active. And as you know, there are eight Arctic countries, seven are within NATO. We have to work together to make sure that the Arctic stays safe. And currently we are discussing the next step to that. How to make sure that we give practical follow-up on those discussions to make sure that as an alliance we do everything collectively and through our individual allies to make sure that the Arctic stays safe. As we all agree, that has to be a priority. Sounds to me like what's happening here is NATO troops are being... of course it's all our gear.

NATO forces are being focused on Greenland and then we can just roll our ships in. We say, we're gonna provide you guys cover over here. I don't think we actually need Greenland to just patrol the waters there. And there may be a North Sea Nexus angle to this. We've been watching all these, Victoria and we watch all these these British royal monarch series, and so we started the crown. And I was reminded, of course they all speak German, I was reminded that Queen Elizabeth II, her husband Prince Philip was from Denmark. These bloodlines, it's all connected. And so who knows what kind of real attack this is on Denmark. We can listen to

report here where the foreign minister of Denmark and the foreign minister of Greenland talked after their meeting with with Rubio and I think Whitcoff was there as well but first we have to make sure we know the German troops are also in Greenland. Denmark's and Greenland's foreign ministers held inconclusive talks in Washington with US Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Well, you know if they send in JD it's not meant to do a deal. JD is just gonna dance around for you. The Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen said the two sides had agreed to create a working group to discuss ways to address American security concerns while also respecting Denmark's red lines. We had what I will describe as a frank but also constructive discussion. The discussions focus on how to ensure the long-term security in Greenland and here

our perspectives continue to differ, I must say. The president has made his view clear and we have a different position. And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement, but we also agree to disagree. And therefore we will however continue to talk. Greenland's foreign minister Vivian Motsveld doubled down and said her government simply cannot accept a US takeover. I think it's very important to I would say it again that how important it is from our side to strengthen our cooperation with the United States, but that doesn't mean that we want to be owned by the United States. But as allies, how we can strengthen our cooperation is our interest. Well, I think we just send our ships there and just start doing it. I think your earlier idea of a long lease

Yeah, Trump says he doesn't want that. He doesn't want the long lease. That's what he says. Yeah, well, exactly. Exactly. So I only have one clip on this and it's from NTD which would have a the anti-Chinese perspective. Meanwhile, President Trump calling anything less than Greenland in the hands of the US unacceptable, citing national security. And the problem is, there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You know, I can't rely on Denmark being able to fend themselves. They put an extra dog sled there last month.

They ended the second dog sled. That's not gonna do the trick. This comes as Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio meet with the foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland. And we therefore still have a fundamental disagreement, but we also agree to disagree. And therefore we will, however, continue to talk. It is not a true narrative that we have Chinese warships all around the place. According to our intelligence, we haven't had a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or so. While top Danish officials say there are no Chinese ships near Greenland, major Chinese Communist Party media outlets echo these denials, alleging the US is acting out of self-interest rather than national security.

President Trump draws attention to a Danish intelligence report released last month that starkly warns about China's military goals in the Arctic. If you take a look outside of Greenland right now, there are Russian destroyers, there are Chinese destroyers and bigger. To me, it just seems like a gambit. There's something up. But it may not actually have to do with owning Greenland. Maybe we just need a pretext for going up there. But we already have bases. It's not a huge base, it's a base. Yeah, but how much do you need? Well, you need the ships. I think maybe the gambit is just to show you get these guys to put all these troops in Greenland to freeze their asses off. That cannot be a pleasant assignment. And there's also the thought, which I don't have in any of the clips, but it's just been floating around about them offering $100,000 per Greenlander.

Which seems low, seems like a low. Well, if you imagine you live in Greenland, it's probably not low. What are you going to spend it on? Well, that's the point. So it's a lot of money. You're going to be rich. Yeah. Which immediately gives, it makes inflation, even 57,000 people, inflation happens. You know, you give everybody a hundred grand. Hey, you want a dog sled ride? A hundred bucks. Should be a hundred bucks. Ever ridden a dog sled? No. Don't plan on it either. They go like I have, I've ridden a dog sled and the dogs go a lot faster than you think. I do have two clips from Anderson Pooper with Nick Robertson. I think Nick is a, isn't he the, uh, an MI6 kind of spy dude?

I don't know that guy. Yeah, I think you do. He used to do the satellites in Iraq and then all of a sudden he was on camera. I think that was Nick Robertson. I don't know. Well, this is a report from the Nexus, I think. Let's see now, Nick Robertson joins us tonight from Greenland. Is there a sense now of what happens next there? Because again, the White House doesn't seem interested in compromising. What are you doing, a remote from Greenland? Why? He's protecting the interests of the empire, obviously. I think people here are still perplexed. They still don't quite understand what the diplomacy means. I was just talking to a couple of high school graduates here.

And they wanted to know what had happened in the meeting in D.C. and what it really meant. And they are both and their parents, they tell us, are still really worried about whether or not the United States might come here in a military form to annex the country. Right now, I can just tell you, Anderson, that we've just learned through a flight tracking site, something that we were hearing about earlier today, a Danish C-130 military transport Hercules aircraft has landed at Nuuk Airport. The Danish had said that they were going to land, they were going to bring in more military into Greenland. It would be troops, it would be aircraft, it would be Navy. We've heard that the Swedish, the Norwegians, the Germans, the French are all coming here to sort of step up a NATO military security presence, not

per se to defend against the United States, but it will begin to establish an image for President Trump of what NATO can do to project the level of security that he is saying that he requires. But I think in no uncertain terms, The reason that people like these young girls we're speaking to before are concerned is because that meeting in Washington has left everyone with the understanding that both sides are still poles apart, high level discussions to come, but it really buys a little time for Denmark to prepare, time to hope that the White House reconsiders

But the reality is the cans been kicked down the road and it is big it is as big a can as it was before Anderson I think technically NATO said nothing. No of course not well. He has a little more here, but I think technically NATO Forces can take military control of another NATO country You know there's one thing that the youtubers have there's a bunch of different interviewers that are out there floating around Greenland and it seems to me that the people that live there would rather have the United States running it than Denmark. They literally say, yeah, yeah, we, you know, they're all Asians. Oh yeah, but that's not the man on the street you see on France 24 or the BBC or anything here. You see them all saying, no, no, no, no. They're all saying, they're all saying, at least on these

These men on the street reports from the YouTubers, they're really more men on the street. And they're young Eskimo looking people generally. They say, yeah, we'd rather have... And they all speak... Or they don't all, but a lot of them speak English and pretty good English. They say, we'd rather... We don't like the Danes. We just don't like them. But why would you? They got smelly cheese. Brown cheese brown cheese. Yeah, here's the follow-up and this of course is about NATO congressman Where do you see this going? I mean given the fact president isn't budging neither officials from Denmark and Greenland Wait, oh he now is with the Jake Auchincloss who is that guy Anderson good evening before looking forward. Let's wind the clock back to 2019 the Danish intelligence services a

Russian false flag operation in Greenland that was attempting to sow discord between Greenland United States and Denmark by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland Its independence and its annexation that failed it turns out that The Kremlin need not have worried because the US president is now doing its bidding for it. The US president is doing exactly what... Oh, hold on. Stop. The US president is doing the bidding of Russia. I never heard that before. There it is. That's exactly what it is. Let's listen to that bid again. Before looking forward... He's a Democrat representative. Former military guy. Let's wind the clock back to 2019.

The Danish intelligence services uncovered a Russian false flag operation in Greenland. False flag! That was attempting to sow discord between Greenland, the United States and Denmark by claiming that the United States was trying to secure Greenland. I don't remember that. Do you remember said false flag? We are the false flag show. I don't remember. It's bullcrap, that's why. It's independence and it's annexation. That failed. It turns out that the Kremlin need not have worried because the U.S. president is now doing its bidding for it. The U.S. president is doing exactly what Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019, which is two things. Stop, stop, stop, stop. So let's take one stop here and listen to the what is the logic of this?

The logic is that the United States is, you know, they created a false flag to make it look like the United States are bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, How does that benefit Russia? Well, I actually thought differently when I heard this and I thought, oh, this is ARC. America, Russia, China. Yeah, exactly. We want to work with them. We are doing their bidding because we have a plan.

Somebody has a plan. I hope somebody has a plan. The Kremlin may not have a plan or not, his logic is no good. His logic is no good. His logic is ridiculous in fact. Well, but it's talking points. Worried because the US president is now doing its bidding for it. The US president is doing exactly What Russian intelligence services hope to accomplish in 2019 which is two things first? Fracturing NATO at a time when NATO needs to be strong on its eastern flank It is being weakened on its western flank and number two driving the Greenlandic people closer actually to Chinese and Russian influence for their own polar security Why do you think? Yes

So the Greenlanders, according to this joke, are thinking, well, gee, we don't like the Danes, we don't like the Americans, let's turn to Russia and China, who they have no contact with whatsoever. They're not even in the picture. It's not even a part of the debate. But that's what they're up... Come on, dude, get this guy off the air. What is it? What network was this? This is CNN with Anderson Cooper. Well, let's continue because he comes to a logical conclusion. Why do you think that would weaken NATO? Why would the US, you know, occupying, I mean, I don't even know how to phrase how the US could do this, but a greater US presence or control over Greenland, how would that fracture or increasingly fracture NATO?

Well, I mean Anderson you may not have the right verbiage but it already article 5 does, which is an attack on a NATO member, the United States forcefully occupying Greenland, which is a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, Denmark being a founding member of NATO, would be an attack on NATO by a member of NATO. There is no treaty provision that can withstand that. NATO would fracture and Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin would win. Win what? I don't know. I think Trump is just trolling NATO. He really wants the ships there and that makes a lot of sense. We've got to have control of that because that's the Donraud doctrine.

Yeah, it is in our hemisphere. Yes. And it's pretty important with all this, you know, melting ice and everything. Oh, yes. You know, this is the kind of another ill logic is that they, you know, they have to say the ice is going to melt completely, which is going to put that night. If it does, it's going to or if it melts enough. there's going to be a shipping lane there that's going to be much more efficient than going over the Pacific, for example. You just, you know, sneak across the top, shorten the routes. So that's why airlines fly over the polar route largely. Yeah, because it's faster. And so it would be a big deal. It'd save everybody money. But these guys are seeing it differently. I don't know. It is yet to be revealed.

And there's probably oil up there. I think that's much less important. I really don't. That's, you know, I've heard oil, I've heard minerals, gold, diamonds. Gold! I think it's just about the shipping routes. That's it. All those ghost ships are going through there, which would be about oil ultimately. All right, so the next attack on, I'll just say, the nexus is Jerome Powell. And this is really, I think this is fun to watch. Here's a brief statement of the president's general feeling about Jerome Powell, the head of the Federal Reserve.

The inflation numbers just came out, and we have very low inflation. So that would give Tulane Powell the chance to give us a nice, beautiful, big rate cut, which would be great. Now did you see the, was it like the hostage video that Powell did?

Yeah, I thought it was kind of dull. I didn't think much of it. What was the point? Well, the point is, is he's making it sound like it's political, but it was actually, I think it was a Democrat who referred Powell's testimony before the Senate Banking Committee to the Department of Justice saying that he perjured himself during that testimony. It has nothing to do with the rates, and Trump just keeps saying that, but it seems like it's about something else. It's about spending too much money. No, no, no. We don't know because the grand jury, you know, it's not public. I don't know how he could perjure himself. Most of the time he's asked for opinions. Well, you know, I don't think the testimony was public either, was it?

I don't think so. I look for it. I couldn't find it. So, but what this has done is it has put the Federal Reserve, and I'm always amazed how many people don't know that the Federal Reserve is not a government organization. It's a so-called independent institution created in 1913 by the banking cartel. Yeah, what was the reason for it being created? What was the reason for it being created? I were sick and tired of the business cycle getting out of control. Every 10 years you'd have a depression, half the banks would go out of business and people would lose all their money. This kept going on and on and on and they had to do something about it. So they decided that, you know, since we can't have a central bank, quote unquote, we had to have some sort of a faux central bank.

And they decided that if they got control, all those bullshit hasn't worked. No. But they decided that, well, maybe this will be one way of stopping that business cycle from breaking us every, you know, it was the crash in 1907 that really triggered it. That was the end of the end. That was the worst than anything we've seen for a short term. It just broke everybody's back. So you're telling me that the Federal Reserve, of which we don't even know who all the members are. Yes, we do. No. No, we don't. We don't know all the members. We know who all the members are. The members are all public. No, we know the board. We know who the board of governors is. We know who all the members are. Who are they?

Well, I don't have the names off the top of my head, but they're not... it's not secret like you seem to believe. I'm pretty sure that it is. No, no, no. Well, I'm pretty sure that it is. No. I'm pretty sure we know who all the members are. There's not a secret guy in the background that's doing anything. This is all, you know, it's public. The members are all known. In fact, I did a search on this. Are all the members of the Federal Reserve known? Yes. Well, who are they then? The identities of the Federal Reserve's key decision-makers are public, not secret. Not the decision-makers? All the member banks. The board of governors or the decision-makers are all known. There's no secret people back there. I don't know where you got that. Are all the member banks known? Yeah. Yeah? That's what I dispute. What, do you think there's a secret bank?

Well, I think the Federal Reserve in general is a bad idea. Well, that's different than thinking it's secret. Well, I'll leave that. You don't have any proof. I don't have any proof. No, there's plenty. You can Google it. There's no proof that there's no secret person or bank. There's no secret bank in the Federal Reserve. Okay. Not all banks in the United States are member banks. But not all bank members are known, but that's Google. Not all bank members are known? No. Where'd you get that? From Google, so take that for what it is. Really? Yeah. Well, but let's not argue over that.

Let's argue over... Well, it's something to argue about if you think it's a secret society or something running the Federal Reserve. Well, the way I understand the history is the Federal Reserve originally were the same banks, same people who started the, was it the American Bank? The Second Bank of America, and the First Bank of America. And Andrew Jackson dissolved that. Because yeah, you talked about this on Jimmy show you're repurposing information Just calling you, just saying. Yeah, but I actually got some clips. So I'm not, you know what, John, it's fine. You know everything. I'm just saying you're thinking there's some secret organization running the Federal Reserve and there's not. It's okay. You know, Rand Paul, if you remember during the era of our show, Rand Paul made a big fuss about end the Fed, which is, you know, okay, you can try doing that. And then he got ahead of the banking committee. He couldn't do Jack.

Because he was going to always going to audit the Fed. Nothing came up because there was nothing onerous going on. No. Rand Paul was running on his dad's mission to end the Fed. I mean, Ron Paul. What I want to get to here without going into some endless conversation about who owns, because I think that, and I will on Sunday show, I will find out some information. I will tell you that not everything about the Federal Reserve Network is known. I believe that to be true.

Yeah, you do believe that to be true. I do and you believe it not to be true. But that's beyond the point. They certainly didn't stop the boom and bust cycle that the businesses had gotten us into. I said that right at the beginning of my presentation right here. Right. Yeah, no, they, but we don't know that it could have been gotten worse. I mean, after 1907, has it gotten any better? Has it gotten any better? Well, the problem they had with the money creation they do. It has not gotten better. They make too many assumptions. They think they can... they're inept. I'll give you that. And should commercial banks be in charge of our monetary policy by your reasoning?

Well, who should be in charge of monetary policy? Before the Fed, every bank had their own notes. That's right. And I believe that what is happening here is that Scott Besant will follow in the... Gosh, I forget who it was. They had like three different secretaries of the Treasury under Andrew Jackson. And the third one who ultimately became a Supreme Court judge He drained the Federal Reserve of all of the... But there was no Federal Reserve. I mean, the Second Bank of America. Drained their accounts and then gave it to what was called Andrew Jackson's pet banks, which dissolved effectively the Second Bank of America. Now, he screwed it up because he eventually created enormous hyperinflation.

But I think that you're going to see a move by Besant in particular, who is going to redistribute. He's already going to do the short-term T-bills, and I think that's—this is the point I'm getting to—I think that's where the stablecoin gambit comes into play. I'm just saying that this, I think there is a scheme afoot. And every single central banker, I've never seen this before, Trump has always, for as long as he's been in office, has complained about the Federal Reserve. But it's the first time that we see all the central bank guys coming out all around the world and saying, oh no, no, this is no good. We have to have independent banks. I think they're worried. I think they're scared. Something is going on.

Of course they're worried. But they've never all come out en masse and signed letters. Well, you have some maniac coming out there and really pretty much threatening the entire monetary system of the world with stablecoin and I can see that being a huge problem. I can see it as being a great... I mean, I'd be worried too if I was a banker. I can see it as being a great idea. Well... Listen, they don't see it that way and so they're worried. So I'm not stunned by this. My point is, they've never... It's not being discussed. All that's being discussed is he's going after Powell for political reasons. And I think that what I'm trying to say, which you're just... For some reason, you just keep fighting me on it. No, I'm not fighting you on it at all. I just think some of the things you're saying are bullcrap, like that there's secret banks. That's one. Are you going to argue any of the other things? Or the stablecoin gambit. I understand where I could replace SWIFT.

But whether or not it's going to replace the banking system is another issue. I don't think so. What is the banking system? What do these central banks do? What is their one... besides making money, printing money, they do the settlement. If you can do that through a blockchain, You can, if you can get more than, more flowing through your blockchain than what they do, I think you can effectively neutralize them. And let me tell you, Shopify is already adding stablecoin to their checkout options. Our own donation page has a stablecoin checkout page. Why? I didn't ask for it. I don't even know how to get a hold of a stablecoin. No, not yet, but it's being set up. Why else would, why else is this happening?

Why would Shopify, who arguably are one of the most successful financial companies in the world, who are outpacing Visa, why would Shopify add Stablecoin to their checkout? Shopify is outpacing Visa? In stock price, yeah. And in success. Oh, yeah. And Stablecoin will have no fees associated. And... Well, there you just answered your own question. It's all about the fees. But yes, and the same thing is that I think it's all connected is what I'm trying to explore this with you instead of... Yeah, well keep exploring. So I'm going to keep pushing back. Unless you don't want any pushback and you just want me to roll over to these thoughts. Well, you're... Okay. So you think everything's just going to continue as normal and nothing will happen? Pretty much. Okay.

I believe that the 10% cap on credit card interest rates is related to this. I think it's not just to make it more affordable, I think he's trying to put the credit card companies on notice if not severely hurt their business. Well let's hope so. All right, so we'll leave stablecoin for what it is and we'll leave the central bankers for what it is. But I'm going to put it in the red book that this is an attack on the entire financial system. And yes, I think they're serious about doing it. I really do. And I think it's about time. Every year there's a bill to end the Federal Reserve. Last year, it was Massey, funny enough.

And he has 10 co-sponsors. Massie. It's Massie. That tells you something right there. That's why I found it interesting. So the credit card cap came up on CNBC and here's the Sorkin kid trying to explain the business of credit cards, which was a little more intricate than I thought. I was on the phone with a bunch of bankers over the weekend who were Basically, not just mad, flipping out of their minds frankly. And they were flipping out of their minds, I believe in the argument they were making is if you don't want credit in America, if you want us to shut down millions of people's credit cards, because that's what we will have to do to make the economics of these businesses work, that would be the outcome. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's a threat.

I can't tell you about the actual math. I do think that what's happened to the business, from what I've been told, is because there are so many services that are now being layered on top of credit cards. that the only way for them to obviously make money really is to actually charge what might be described as usury rates or not, whatever you... What kind of services? I mean there's all of the... I mean some cards have loyalty points, some cards don't. Some cards have insurance on the product, some cards don't. But there's all sorts of things now that are embedded in your credit card that go far beyond strictly just buying and selling products.

whether it's insurance on when you go to rent a car or this or that. Now some of these cards, as I said, their fees, American Express charges you fees. There's other cards that give you the card for free. But those cards that are giving you for free, the way they're making up their money is typically on the other end. Meaning, they want you... To charge everything on it. They want you not just to charge everything on it because they're getting the 3% for each sale. They really want you to actually not pay so that you pay the interest rate. That's the business. So, Sorkin there defending the business.

saying that well because they give you insurance and all this other stuff I don't know that seems like a crab that Exactly, and then Kernan says well. He basically said well. What about the free market? How does that not work once again in a In a world where you don't like to use the word cap ever on something that you're doing because you immediately think there's going to be less of it when you cap it. And it's supposed to work where if someone's charging too high an interest rate, then competitors come in and go down an eighth at a time until you get to an equilibrium where demand equals supply. So I don't understand.

But once again, is Elizabeth Warren going go President Trump again? Are they on the same side of... Probably. So two things here. One, that's a good question, is they must be colluding I guess because everyone has high interest rates. Do you know of any low interest rates credit card, interest rate credit cards? No, they all brag about it. They maybe have your low interest rate. I'm going to correct you on something by the way. No, you're right. There's no, they're all high interest rates. Visa is over three times bigger than Shopify. Has their stock price risen the same? Their net worth, the stock price is way up there. But the market cap of Visa is $632 billion and Shopify is $200 billion. I didn't say their market cap. I said that their stock price. Stock price is all relative. Well, okay.

Well, the stock price of Visa is $327. Yeah, but look at the charts. I believe Shopify has exploded since they came on the scene. Well, it's not that it's a crappy company. No, but... But you said they were bigger. Shopify is $157. It's not even close. It's half the stock price. And I qualified it by saying the stock price. Well, Shopify is $157. It's half the price of Visa stock. Okay, all right. I'm just, because you throw this stuff out out of the blue and it just goes out into the ether and people hear, oh geez, Shopify's bigger than Visa when it's not even a snowball's chance in hell it'll ever be bigger than Visa. It's a huge company, Visa. Yes. And if you put the two charts next to each other, has Shopify increased in value? I guess that's what I meant. Recently it's fallen off a rock, off a cliff. Okay. Well then I was wrong.

I believe Shopify is a very successful company. Not saying Visa isn't. I'm not saying it's not. You didn't say that. I know. I'm conceding to you. No, well, with provisos. Actually, Shopify once at one point really hit some good numbers. I know because the reason why I said that I didn't say it correctly for sure is because the former New York banker go ahead you can discredit him about Goldman Sachs the former skyrocketing the former New York banker has been investing in Shopify for eight years I think he says it is it is a much better

company and deal than Visa if you want to make money. So he was just talking about stock price increase, I believe. But we can't believe anybody, certainly not him because he's wrong about Goldman Sachs. No, we can believe that. And it is true. It's a newer company. They're doing quite well, but they're not bigger than Visa. That's all I was. You were saying that they were. And I already told you, I said I was incorrect in saying that. Yes. We got to keep the show honest. OK. Well, it always is difficult for me when the first thing you say is you're recycling content. I'm trying not to recycle content. I'm really trying not to, but I think it's important. And when you do that, it's just like, fuck you is what you're saying. That's kind of, no, I'm saying you're recycling. You know, it's like not everybody, if people are your fans, there's plenty of them out there. They're going to listen to all your stuff and they're going to get in the same thing over and over. You can, there's original material.

You f- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm- I'm Yes. Okay, so what do you care? If you're taking retreaded material from other shows at this second... You're giving our show second tier status. You've got your first tier status, which is you and Jimmy, and then you bring it, your same stuff over to our show as a second rate. Okay, the show... It's an insult. Oh, you feel it's an insult. Oh, okay. To the audience. No. How many people listen to Noah Jenner and how many people listen to We Get To Do This?

What's the difference in audience size, do you think? Just take a wild guess. It's not an insult to anybody. No one has complained except you. Well, I'm trying to get you an audience over there if you haven't figured this out. Well, you're doing a great job. You haven't mentioned the name of the show once. I can never, believe me, I would love to mention the name of the show. I can't remember the name of the show. You ready? We get to do this. We get to do this. You actually and not only that you've had somebody write a song Jeff Smith Oh Jeff Smith wrote the song yeah of course that's where I am you know I'm sorry if I if I weakened our show by using Jeff Smith somewhere else. He doesn't do anything for us anymore. We might as well. Anyway final clip here so

Kiernan says, what's happening here? Is President Trump going to call Elizabeth Warren? And he actually did. He called her, which is amazing by itself. And she was asked about it on CNBC. And what do you think she answered? I think she was positive, if I'm not mistaken. That's not what I heard. I had just given a speech about the future of the Democratic Party. And the basic point that I made in the speech is that Donald Trump had promised for an entire year in the run up to the 2024 election that on day one he would lower costs for American families. He gets elected and the very first interview he says on day one. Day one. She didn't answer the question at all or even during the full 11 minute interview. All she said was there's cheaper credit cards out there.

She's part of the system. She doesn't want credit card companies to get screwed by Trump. I heard a different clip from her. I don't have it. I'd listen to the whole 11 minutes. Where she was somewhat complimentary for the fact that they agreed on this and now she turned, somebody gave her a call. But who? Well, listen to the rest of the clip. For cause for American families and that that's why he got elected. And yet here we are a year in, and the cost of groceries is up, the cost of utilities is up, the cost of housing is up, the cost of healthcare is up, up, up. And all of those costs are up because of policies that Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress have pushed on our economy.

So, the argument I was making in the speech is it's time for Democrats to jump in to hold Donald Trump and the Republicans accountable for these higher costs for American families, and then make a choice as we go forward. We can take our economic agenda and sand it down, narrow it down to make it more acceptable to billionaire donors. we can actually go full-throated on behalf of the American people and make bold proposals and demonstrate that we will get in there and fight for it. But this was all about lowering costs for American families because that's what Democrats are going to do and that's what the election of 2026 is going to be about. That's all she could do is talk about the 2026 election. She doesn't care about people.

Doesn't want to help him doesn't want it. No somebody called her up and said hey, hey, hey You can't be talking anything good about Trump. We got to win this 2026 thing. Mm-hmm This is the this is the whole thing is about 2026. I think that's it somewhere about 2026 I thought I don't have let's do more Africa news. I wish I had more African news I Let's do something, I don't want to do too much on Minnesota because that's the biggest distraction of the week. Miami in the midterms. This is from Al Jazeera and this is, you know, unbeknownst to everybody, you know, Chuck Schumer has been working behind the scenes. They've been, the Democrats have been winning all these little local elections. The Republicans are lazy. The Republicans are lazy and wimps. No, no, no. The Republicans don't want Trump to win.

I think most of them. Well, you're talking about the professional Republicans. I'm talking about the public at large. Oh, OK. The professional Republicans don't like Trump. They don't want to do anything. James Comer's the worst. He's never going to indict anybody. Clinton can give him the finger. I'm not coming in for the talk. And he, well, you've been subpoenaed, you know, now you're breaking the law. Ah, screw you. Oh, okay, whatever. I mean, the guy's a horrible person. And so you have, meanwhile, the Democrats are making inroads left and right. And now this. Now the US midterm elections aren't happening until November, but the political posturing is already well underway Democrats hope a strong showing will help to limit the president's power They recently received a boost in Donald Trump's home state of Florida from Miami is Phil LaVelle This is Miami, Florida. It is colorful. It is cultural. It's competitive and politically is this place seeing the start of a big shift

Democrats hope so. Eileen Higgins is Miami's new mayor, a Democrat herself, which is significant because Miami has not elected a Democrat to run it for 30 years. Quick bit of background for you then. Florida is as red as it gets, dominated by the Republicans. Democrats have been trying to shake it up for years and turn it blue, or at least make it purple, a blend of the two. This was once the ultimate swing state. The 2000 presidential election hinged on Florida. Al Gore just lost out to George W. Bush after a Supreme Court battle. But it has moved steadily to the right ever since. Looser COVID restrictions drew in older, more conservative leaning voters joining an already huge and broadly conservative Latino base. It helped Governor Ron DeSantis with a record-breaking landslide in the 2022 midterms. But here's why Democrats are feeling a bit more hopeful right now. They've notched up a handful of wins elsewhere lately, small but symbolically important for a party still regrouping after losing the White House in 2024. How do you capitalize on that? How do you keep that going?

We keep it going by being on the ground. That's what we need to do. We need to continue voter registration, especially here in Florida. We need to have voter registration. We need to up our numbers. We need to reach out to our Democrats, independents and Republicans, because there are Republicans that have buyers remorse. I think about where we are right now at this particular moment in time. See, President Trump is only a year in, a quarter of the way through his second term. The midterm elections take place in November and Republicans need to do well there to fulfill his election agenda. If Democrats want to slow him down, this is their chance. No, what's my takeaway from that? 30 years there hasn't been a Democrat mayor of Miami and now there's one. These guys are making, these Democrats are doing a lot better than anybody wants to admit to. The Republicans are flat footed. They're complacent. I listen to these, I watch all the right shows and they

They spike in the ball left and right as though they've won the midterms, that they think they're going to win the midterms. They don't put any fear of God into the voters saying, hey, we're going to lose the midterms, which is what's going to happen. And then Trump's going to get impeached again and probably again. He's going to get impeached four times probably. And they're just not. It's unbelievable. These Republicans are lazy. Well, they don't have the spark right now. They don't have the MAGA spark, which is thanks to the, partially thanks to the podcast wars, Nick Fuentes, other agents of change and destabilization. And Trump is busy doing stuff. He doesn't care. I think even if he gets impeached, he's still going to keep moving. They can't stop him from doing what he's doing. He's not going to change anything, but he's not going to get anywhere with the Congress that's deadlocked. He doesn't need Congress. He just kill everything that he wants to.

He's not gonna get everything he wants to. He would be better off with a Congress that was amenable to passing laws that were in his favor, as opposed to a bunch of asshole Democrats. who are going to be lording it over everybody. And Republicans. They're just as bad, the Republicans. I'm telling you, they do not want Trump to win. They're sick of it. They want stability. They want to go back to their home. They want to hang out. People need to, yeah, you're right. Republicans, if you're talking about the public at large, the organization, the fire, I think is gone. It feels lost.

So it reminds me of California. We have a Republican California Republican Committee, whatever it's called, and they don't do anything. They didn't put any money behind Garvey when he ran for Senate. They let this guy, you know, this screwball, what's his name, Schiff, become Senator of California. That's a humiliation. And now they're gonna have governorship running. Who are they gonna run? And they're running Steve Hilton. And that's the Republican guy. I mean, this is ridiculous. They're going to hand him some fat Katie Porter will be the governor or or Steyer, Tom Steyer. He's got a shot at it. We have to listen to this guy. And you still won't leave. No, I can't complain enough. All right. Couple, couple. We're late now. Couple clips on. Oh, no. Yeah, we are. We're late. Couple clips on my fault. Minnesota.

The first one, where did this come from? This was, where is it now? Oh yes, CBS. A week after the killing of Renee Good in Minneapolis, the fallout continues. A vigil this morning followed fierce overnight clashes as mass immigration agents by the thousands continue to work in the city. And after this incident. caught on tape showing a woman pulled and dragged by agents. Meanwhile, a half dozen federal prosecutors in Minnesota, including the man Trump named acting U.S. attorney last summer, Joe Thompson, have quit in protest, according to sources speaking with CBS News. Some over the Trump administration's decision not to investigate the federal agent who shot Renee Good and to instead investigate Good herself and Good's widow.

The woman and her friend were highly disrespectful of law enforcement. CBS News has also learned six others in the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division in Washington have left in a mass exodus too. Amid concerns about the department's decision to block local authorities from doing their own probe. Rene Goods, family attorney, spoke with CBS News today. The thought. And who do you think her attorney is? Same guy who defended George Floyd. Yeah, yeah. This is a hotshot, local hotshot. That there is only a one-sided investigation is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the government or the American people. The wave of resignations show crumbling confidence and morale inside. What are you talking about, one-sided investigation?

An investigation is an investigation. It's not one-sided or the other. Yeah, but Trump is corrupt. We all know this. Everything's corrupt. Epstein. It is really not palatable to the family, nor should it be to the government or the American people. The wave of resignations show a crumbling confidence and morale inside the Justice Department. The pattern seems to be that the administration wants us to do work that advances their political agenda rather than evaluate cases based on the facts. About the federal agent that fired the shot, Deputy U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanch said in a statement, there is currently no basis for a criminal civil rights investigation. That is a statement that has upset local authorities in Minneapolis.

So there's all kinds of back and forth. They're sending in jags now. I'm not quite sure why, other than to do more stuff. And the fraud keeps... Being uncovered by Nick Shirley. He's got a new one with another guy. Yeah, it was I'd like this new He's got four bodyguards with him now. He's not an idiot and he has a new guy another old guy who's Unidentified but okay. It's not the same guy. No, it's not this a new guy It's a new guy when a Somali goes to the doctor magically they forgot how to speak English so they needed interpreter there and So the county brings in an interpreter at $100 an hour, minimum 8 hours to interpret what the doctor is telling the patient. So that's another layer of fraud that nobody's even talked about or revealed. And it's millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars all on its own. Interpreter services. What percentage do you think of these people, especially if they were born here in the United States? They speak English, right?

Of course they do. They should not be saying no English. And then remember the interpreter has to get to the doctor's office or the hospital. How are they getting there? The transportation company and then they got to get back home and that patient had to get to the doctor's office. How? Transportation. Kids got to get to school. How? Transportation. That's why I said the transportation is the hub of really I think all of this. So basically we're talking about between all these fraudulent businesses, the daycare, the autism centers, the adult daycare, the home services, and then the transportation, and then on top of that you have it looped in with them going eventually to the doctors for translators to be paid by the state. That's exactly what's happening, yes.

What a business. I love all these people now doing Nick Shirley's in their own towns and they're all running around. Oh, everybody's Nick Shirley. It's all out of the blue. We need shirts. Out of the blue. You're right. I got it here. We got in the Bay Area. I'm sure you get a few in Texas, probably not as many because there's not so much corruption. There's corruption, but not like here. And yeah, but they went to these transportation companies. There's none of no there's nobody there. There's no office. It's bullcrap and they're billing him left and right for nothing that's going on well the guy said then they get threatened either threatening him the guy said I thought that was he said Transportation he said that's really what this is about if you heard that

Yeah, no, he's yeah, and they went through they did a thorough investigation the bullcrap transportation companies. Yeah, it's not it's not just Minnesota. It's everywhere. There's no doubt about it. They're just it's just corruption everywhere. You know, Joy Reid has, you know, ever since she got kicked off of Ms. Now, or MSNBC when I was still MSNBC still does a show on YouTube. And she gets guests. And I wanted to play these two clips before we take a break because Emilio popped in. The state of Minnesota under occupation. Minnesota, of course, is our latest state to be inundated by the Trump regime's armed secret police. And I want you guys to understand, I use that language very intentionally. Because if these scenes were playing out in any other country, particularly in a global South country, if they were in the Middle East somewhere or in Africa somewhere,

We in the media would absolutely describe- I love, we in the media on YouTube. What you're about to see as the invasion of a city by regime secret police or by armed regime- Regime! Power military. She's got video Rollins and everything John, it's like the show never went away and she probably has more viewers on YouTube. Well that's probably true. said, have you not learned this is why we killed that lesbian. Can you tell us what happened to you? So first off, I'm a United States Marine veteran. We were following them from a safe distance. Following ICE agents? Yep, following ICE agents. They tried, they stopped in the middle of the road and reversed on 62.

They tried to ram our car. They broke my window. They yanked me out by my neck. They threw me to the ground. They stomped on me. They pushed my face into the ground. They put the cuffs on as tight as possible to the point where it took six agents to try to get them off. Talk about slanted investigation. Wait a minute. Why is she even there if she was... Cuffed and beaten to a pulp and then obviously taken somewhere. Why is she standing there because it's nonsense I think Or she was a troublemaker. Here's the second part. You'll notice that when ICE started out, they were targeting Latino men very intentionally. Most of the people they were running up to on the street were brown men. And that was very intentional because they were trying to put forward a narrative that what they were doing was hunting down the worst of the worst and the worst of the worst were Tren de Aragua and other gang members. But now,

particularly in the wake of Renee Goodes murder. Murder? The complexion and gender of the targets is shifting. Have you noticed that? You're seeing more and more women. Now this is really egregious what she does here. Now it's like, oh we're just going after black women, that ICE is just a bunch of Nazi SSers. I mean, do these people really think that ICE is just going around just grabbing people? Do you feel like that's happening, John? No, I don't think so. But I'm under the impression that these people believe it. Oh, there's no doubt about that because this is the continuous message. And here comes the milieu talk. And as you see in that video, more and more people who are black. Because remember, the quota is being set by Stephen Miller.

And he wanted 3,500 people a day. You saw a black pregnant woman being thrown to the ground and kidnapped and thrown into a van. You saw a brown woman who was just on her way to a doctor's appointment, who's being given conflicting directions. Go, don't go, go get out of the car. She has no idea what to do, then she gets dragged out of the car. She's not being accused of a crime, she's just in their way. And you saw a black woman whose husband is dragged off from their home and you see her out there crying. This is where the regime is going. Yes, please. I have to say, we shouldn't fall for the okey-doke. We know what they're trying to do. They're trying to excite black folk. Correct. And everybody else to get angry so they can go ahead and have the authority to pass this stupid state

Law where they can basically just take over the country do it They want to do so black folk do not fall for the okie-dokie. Do you remember the okie-dokie? That was a Obama phrase If we if we okey-doke, you know It sounds okey-doke The tweets are okey-doke. That's right, Obama. I think Obama is still still giving people direction with his okey-doke. Oh, you might be right because I keep seeing Schumerisms in some of the crap that the Democrats pull. Like that candlelight vigil has Schumer written all over it. Of course, he was at the front of it. But the whole idea, it's like when they all took a knee in Congress and they had some wrap around their neck, that was Schumer.

The sit-ins I think were shoo- remember when Congress sitting in its own chambers? Oh yes, they did the sit-in. They did a sit-in on themselves. Yeah. Yeah, these guys, they never let up. No, but you're right. There's a portion of the country that absolutely believes what they're saying. Absolutely, there's a big portion. This was a classic Scott Adams same movie two different screens That was a class that was one he would hammer over and over again, and there's no changing it Yeah, we had it as dimension a and dimension B. Yeah, well, we don't even go there anymore because they're lost It's sad they're lost we don't never I don't think we can ever get them back to reality Well, they say every once in a while one. This is the problem. I

I can't disagree, which is what you hate me saying. But there's every so often one of them snaps and goes over to and they say, wait a minute, I've been bull crapped. I'm not going to put up with this anymore. And they quit. Remember that, you know, leave the party. Well, yeah. You remember who that was? Candace Owens. Blexit. That's right. She was one of the first to do it. And what did she turn out to be? A disruption. You know, you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. Yeah. Yeah. Candace Owens is a good example of a, you don't know what the hell's going on with her. No. And she's kind of falling off the radar. I mean, the whole, everything is falling apart. As predicted, it's like, you can't be hammering on one thing continuously. They don't understand. Audiences don't like that. They get tired of it and they need, and they need good arguments from time to time.

Which is why people continue to come to us. Well, that's because we don't stay on one topic. No. You can be in Africa one minute and you can be in Minneapolis the next and you wouldn't know the difference. Hey, with that... Yes, well, okay. Thank you for the reminder that I did Africa clips. So I'm now the one at minus one. No, Africa... It's your turn to do Africa clips next. Africa and Somalia, that was my point. Somalia. Somalia, Sudan, it's all the same. Yes. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage in the morning to you, the man who put the sea... I don't have anything. I don't have anything. What sea...

Yeah, you know, whenever there's a war or somebody dies, people show up. We're almost back at 1800 for our Thursday. Yeah, it's death and war is good for the show. Yeah, yeah, I noticed this. The trolls are with us here in the troll room at trollroom.io or noagendastream.com. You can always listen live through a modern podcast app. I highly recommend you get one of those. It really is the way to listen to the No Agenda Show if you want to listen live. And if you don't, you want to get one of those because within 90 seconds of us posting the show, you will be notified. You don't have to wait 15 minutes, sometimes hours when you're

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And there she was. There was the pregnant astronaut floating in space. And it was good. I mean, we both looked at all the different... You also had a naked astronaut. Yeah, that wasn't happening. That was not going to happen at all. Oh, what happened? Oh, I hit the wrong one. There we go. Let's see what we had. It's all AI, obviously, which is just what it is these days. Yes, he had two pregos in space. Obviously we're not going to do the naked lady. I'm not going to do that. You kind of like Matthew Dopko's astronaut baby, the space baby, which is another contender. This is all on noagendaartgenerator.com, which has been available for probably 15 years in one version or another. And anybody can contribute by uploading art to it. And we just select one and we credit someone as an artist.

And it's all AI. What can I say? It's bland, it's weak, it's annoying. Was there anything else that we liked? I don't think there was anything. I did use please donate for the newsletter. Of course, that's what you want to do. It was a good one. Yeah. Oh, the little sad puppy for some instead of being brown or white is black and white, which I thought was I know I did that. The one by Senate by M Senate. That one. Yeah. And I sent it. It was something else. I thought that somebody did something very creative. Well, talk about it.

Wait, tomorrow? We'll talk about it tomorrow on tomorrow's show. Tomorrow's show. Let me see how many... Lots of Scott Adams, of course. Yeah. Well, there's still room people. I recommend you give it a shot. Go to your favorite AI art generator for as long as they last. You know, there's all kinds of things happening now with Claude, I think it is, Code Generator. Is that it? Claude Code Generator? Now they're saying, hey, you know, it's been in our terms of service for a couple of years now or whatever, all of 2025. But you can't actually use us and other products unless you pay for higher tier access. Everybody's losing their minds. It's like, well, what do you expect? These guys got to make money at some point. That point is now. And I think the only I've said before, I think Google will win. Nobody else. Current numbers, I think it was I don't know, it was Chad GPT or one of these groups.

They came out with some numbers and they did like a hundred, I think it was a hundred million in sales. And they lost 1.4 billion. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. So the numbers, so you have more or less everything you do for free on these systems, they're giving you the result plus 10 bucks. For all practical purposes, they're giving you a $10 bill every time you use these things. I was thinking this morning that when they have to upgrade all of these data centers with all new NVIDIA chips and everything, there's going to be so much cool stuff you'll be able to buy for pennies on the dollar that you can then run it home.

Because right now there's a business opportunity. Oh yeah. Reselling these. Because what is the high end Nvidia stuff go for 10,000 50 some go for 18,000. Most of the whole systems now they sell a complete data centers. They're in the business of. Makes it hard for anyone to compete. Yeah, well they're gonna keep that going for a while. That is 90% of our GDP probably. We can't ruin that. Gotta keep that thing going. It's gonna come with a new gambit. The new Chad GPT. No, no, no, this one's gonna break the bank. Sorry. So we don't even need a central bank to break us. We just need Chad GPT.

That'll break us. This is gonna break the bank. There's no doubt about it. I mean, the numbers don't add up. But if you only give us a little more power, then we'll... More time. A little more power, then we will have, we will finally have real intelligence. I'm impressed though. I'm impressed with Gemini. Yeah, I know you've been saying this for weeks. You really like it. Well, for search, for search stuff. It's good at search stuff. I mean, and for some coding, but how big is that market? What's the TAM of coding? It's not gonna pay for it, that's for sure. This is a great technology, I think. I mean, you'd think it sucks, but I like it.

And it's just, it's a super, and the reason, one of the reasons I like it is I think I sense that I'm getting, they're shipping me money. Well, I'm not saying it sucks. I'm saying the art sucks that, you know, we don't have real artists anymore. We don't have, well, we actually have two today because people got so fed up of hearing the slop. But it yeah, it sucks because it's hurting the show. It's hurting the show with mediocre art. That's okay. It's not great. I think Like that last piece that Thomas strip blogger did of the pregnant woman in in space I think it was and you know, you know what nobody has time to to actually render that in

in time to get it in by the end of the show. This is, it made it, we get lots of quick art. We had 10, 15, 20 people who would do it and they all gave up. It has hurt the quality. How about this? They would have given up anyway because it's too much work. No, no. They gave up because they... It's like the song. Okay. Here's the songs are a good example. Yeah. We had Same five years ago. We had fabulous songwriters and people doing parodies of songs and yes cutting in Obama's Yes, amarang and all the rest of it not and they all quit because because because they can't compete

No, they all quit before the AI started taking over. Well, that's true. They did start. They did start. I think COVID kills a lot of people. I mean, not literally as well, but you know, a lot of people just were... they blew their wand. AI has saved the show. Okay, let us thank our executive and associate executive producer for episode 1834. We thank everybody $50 and above. And we start with a donation from Spain, from Valencia. And this is interesting. I think this is Eric Jan Huben. He's a Dutch guy, but I think he's in Valencia, but he's part-time Brazilian. It's very confusing.

And here he is. Dear Adam, since the beginning of the No Agenda Show I'm a listener. But I've only donated $33 over 10 years ago. Well, okay. Good to see you back on the list. I'm hereby stepping up to knighthood with this $966 donation. Adam may top it off to $1,000. He actually did email me about this and I said yes, I would drop in a silver dollar. So there it is. As a Dutchman, I got to know the U.S. Sounds a lot like the penny. Yeah, it's uh, yes. I didn't have time to hit it a hundred times.

As a Dutchman, I got to know the US in 86-87 as a senior at Petaluma High School. Huh, Petaluma. And still remembered as the most outstanding athlete. More importantly, at the school I wrote a paper about an ambitious New York businessman and I predicted that one day he would become the US president. My teacher, Mrs. Paula Stonich, was really proud to read that. That would be so nice, she said, because he's German just like me. Now, almost 40 years later, I conclude that the No Agenda Show is the only one that can separate the politics, the show, and the trolling by that man from New York. And that is something very much needed in today's crazy media world. Ciao, says Eric. By the way, P.S., as a part-time Brazilian, I want the title Baron of Big Beautiful Bahia.

but it seems my donation only makes me a knight. In that case, I'd like to be referred as the knight of the big beautiful Bahia. Please add to... Bahia. Bahia. What am I saying? Bahia? Bahia. You're saying Bahia. Where is Bahia? It's kind of north to east of Sao Paulo. It's a big giant, it's a big state that is known as... you don't go there, without partying 24-7. No. 365 is the party state of Brazil and Bahia, Bahia, Bahia is very famous for music and parties.

And as sound clips, he wanted Adam's birds in space from yesterday's show with the echo effect. Well, we don't typically clip stuff out of the show because like, wow, someone's going to request that, but I'll do it live for you. And his second clip is Space Force. So I can do that. Birds in space! Space Force! Nice. Sir Fat Dad. Parts Unknown 369. He's also Sir Fat Dad of the BMXicans. He has been a frequent supporter of the show. With this donation of $369.69, I am now two times a knight, which I believe is a baronet, gay as f***.

Gay as that title sounds, oh, okay, gay as that title, he's got it spelled funny. I'll take it. No, that's the spelling of fake and gay. G-A-G-Y. Is it? Yes. I've never seen it spelled that. Fake and gay with G-A-G-Y? That's cute. Yeah. May I please have a F-35 Race Karma as I am once again attempting to qualify for the USA BMX World Championship team in the 50 plus Wow 50 plus cruisers category Uh, BMX... Man, I'm 50 years old, driving a motorcycle like a maniac. I don't know. BMX cycling championships are... It's not a motorcycle, it's a... It's a bike. It's a mountain bike. Yeah, but they do it rough.

It's rough on the prostate. Are in Brisbane, Australia this year and sure I won't win, but I couldn't think of a better place to get my butt whooped on a bike than on the vacation of a lifetime down under. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Rob, aka Sir Fat Dad of the BMXican. You've got... karma. Now, before we continue, did you get a bag? Did you get a bag from Katie Dietrich dot net? The toiletry bag? Maybe. I think so. Now, I had a shaver stuff in it. No, I didn't have any shavers. It's OK. No, this is a bag I got before. OK, because she sent me Kate Dietrich dot net. She said there they have a

No agenda, but toiletry bags now on the website. There's the podfather bag and the grumpy bag I think it's called. Why am I the grump? I don't know. Go figure. But my bag included a small box of Dutch licorice and... You and your Dutch licorice. I know it's gonna kill me. And $450 in cash. So I wondered if you had received $450 in cash so we can credit them appropriately. I... it would be... it would have been opened by... it would have been in a box. It wasn't. There was no big box in the box. So she sent it to me, so... but we'll make sure that gets into the proper accounts. So thank you very much, kateditrigg.net. I don't think there was a note other than, here's your bag. Love you.

Maybe. Okay. Yeah. Make double, double check that though, because you know, well, maybe something will come. I mean, uh, we got a donation from Jackie green and his wife Kyle and she, uh, yeah, but she said, I'm just saying she sent something about a month ago, never showed up. I hate that. And then this, the other thing she mails, it shows up the next day. Well, So I heard the Darien's up. He's in Trabuco Canyon, California He is in for four. I'm sorry 343 75 and he says rest in peace Scott Adams, oh, I'm sorry. I've just read two in a row. I let me do it became The one I was supposed to read

That was yours. So I don't want to get off schedule, so I'm gonna go Sir Kukuracha, who's in Finland, Minnesota. The only reason is because I have the note queued up. 33333, and he wrote a typed note that says, Sir Kukuracha of the Northwoods, Finland, Minnesota nuts, and he wants noodle gun, WTC7, and F35 karma. ITM Gitmo Nation, I feel like a massive douche For not donating for so long, please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Adam, how can I donate Bitcoin to the show directly from my hardware wallet? No QR scanner. There is a link in the newsletter that is specific for this. You just go to that link.

Well, does it take you to the QR scan? He's looking for the Bitcoin wallet address which we can certainly put on the website. No, it doesn't take you. The QR codes are on the newsletter and then the link for people that use a computer is there too and you click on it or you click on it you can click on the QR codes and it'll take you to the normal methodology. No, that's not true. What does it do? It just takes you to the QR codes. He doesn't want to scan the QR codes. Did you take that little link at the bottom there and cut and paste it? It's just more QR codes? What link? On the newsletter. In the newsletter? No. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. The newsletter.

I know what you're talking about. Well, my point is it's very easy for us to add that to the website It's on the newsletter and it's I think it's I think it takes us to the website Which is our website which has that information? I'm pretty sure Okay, I don't use Bitcoin so I can't confirm any of this but nobody's complained about it. Well, he is he's he's complaining But he does this does he even get the newsletter? But I'm just but the newsletter takes you to the website that link is And on the website, it's just the QR codes. Let me double check. That's redundant. Doesn't make sense. Well, yeah, or click here to use Stripe. Let's see. Go there. No, I'll work. Yeah, you do fix it. Yeah, I'm going to fix it. I found your North Sea continues his note. I found your North Sea Nexus analysis to be particularly enlightening. I was trying to describe the North Sea Nexus.

thesis to a friend, a friend I have tried to hit in the mouth multiple times but to no avail. He was intrigued but I still can't get him to listen to the show. This gave me an idea for the next vacation special. Calling all NOAA gender producers who are actually competent with technology. Please make a special show with all the clips discussing the North Sea Nexus. I don't know if we have two hours worth. I don't think so. I think this could actually be a good intro show to hit some people in the mouth and leave a mark. Please credit my son Galvin with this donation towards a future knighthood. Thanks John and Adam for all the producers and the producers for everything you do to make the best podcast universe possible. Sir Kukuracha of the Northwoods. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit. I got my pasta glock locked and loaded.

WTC 7 won't go away You've got BRO! Karma We go to Sir Jan, innkeeper of Amsterdam, 333.33, and he says, Dear Adam, I'm not sure if my note was delivered last Tuesday. In the meantime, the horrible news came in that Robert Jensen has passed away. You and he had dinner in my restaurant together prior to COVID. Yes, I remember. He's a very nice restaurant in Amsterdam. Let's make it a Robert Jensen donation. request karma for my best friend heel with love aka sir young the innkeeper of Amsterdam thank you very much you've got karma but it plugged his own restaurant now he doesn't have to do that Dutch Travis Moore in Gibsonville North Carolina 333 dot 3 3

ITM, thank you for being the best podcast in the universe. You're welcome. I'd like to congratulate our son Jordan on getting his commercial plumbing license at 22. I didn't know you needed a license to be a plumber. Can I get some goat karma for a Bills win over the Broncos? Go Bills. You've got it. And there we have Dame Girl Kyle, Kylie, I forget now, Kylie. I think it was Kyle. No, no, it's Kyle. Kyle. Thank you. And Sir TG, that was the note wishing you and your families and all of Noah Gen the Nation peace, love and good health for 2026. Dame Girl Kylie and Sir Jackie Green and the amount

Was 333.33, thank you very much. Yeah, it was nice. Sir Joshua in Noonan, Georgia. Hi, Tam, gentlemen, coming to you from Chile, Poland. He's in Poland. My only request for you is to pull up No Agenda Show episode 875 at 2 minutes 33 seconds, 45. Two hours, 33 minutes, 45. Adam discusses the electoral process where no candidate gets to 270. Lo and behold, Adam is the reason we had Sleepy Joe as president and four years of... Adam is the reason? Huh. And four years of stumbling and mumbling. That's your fault, Adam. And John was cheering for it too. I think you really tipped the scales by cheering for it.

Thanks guys. Random Alex Jones jingle and a F-35 Karma which seems to be very popular today. Thank you. It's the third time today. That's crazy. Yes, thank you. It's a random number theory. Sir Joshua Protector of the Gunline, what is he talking about? I don't know. Apparently on show 875 at 2 hours 33 minutes and 45 seconds. I mean if you want I can listen to that real quick for a second. NA, what was the number? 875. Might as well check it out now. 875. Oh, there is no NA 875. How about that? Huh?

What? What? Did we miss a show somehow? The plot thickens. I'll have to look that one up and see what that was about. He wanted a random AJ and F-35. AI music has made me nauseous. You thought. Where'd you get that one? It was random. Karma. Random. Purely random. I doubt it. It was random. Sir Nate the Rogue in Central Point, Oregon. Oh, you're up, sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I was already off looking at episode 875. Sir Nate the Rogue, Central Point, Oregon, 225, Associate Executive Producership, ITM appreciate you both suffering between dimensions. No kidding. A quick note on Iran.

I have a childhood best friend whose dad is from Iran. They live in California now. A lot of the Persians do. He still has aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. over there and he confirmed yesterday they're not able to contact anybody in Iran right now. Yes, we're aware. Keep the people of Iran in my thoughts. Sir Nate the Rogue. Thank you very much, Sir Nate. And there we have Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado. $200. Jobs, Karma, she says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com. for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K, and work with Linda Liu, the Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Which brings us to... Uh-oh! How about that? Dana Brunetti checks in.

With no note? That seems unlikely. Yeah, I mean he'll email me about the slightest thing, but no note. $200. And he continues his streak as a mere associate executive producer. So that is wonderful. Thank you very much, Dana Brunetti. I'm suspicious. Yeah, yeah. Shingle Springs, is that where he is? Shingle Springs, California? Yeah. Well, maybe it's him. Well, we'd like a note if you somehow forgot to send us the note. Dana Bernetti, go look him up on IMDB.com. He will now be adding yet another associate executive producer title to his IMDB account. He actually has it pinned to the top, which is kind of cool.

And that is our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1834. Thank you so much. And of course, we'll be thanking the rest of our $50 and above supporters of the show. Value for value, which means you can support us anytime you want, any amount you want, for any reason. And with these Executive and Associate Executive credits, they're good for perpetuity, and you can use them anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized. And we thank you very much and of course we'll always read your note when you send in one of those. And again, the rest of the people, $50 and above in our second segment, thank you for supporting the best podcast in the universe! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. AI music has made me nauseous. Shut up, Steve. Still trying to find show 875. I don't know what happened. Oh.

There it is. We did have show 875. What was the time code on that? Let's listen to this. The time code was 2... 2... Oh, I get it. Hold on. Oops. Let's see. Yeah. 2... 233.45. Okay. 2... 33. That's tough to get there. Let's see. What were we talking about? Oh, it should be playing. Why isn't it? Oh, here we go. Yeah. It is, it is, but they didn't do it. I have an op- Do you hear about the protests that- You're cutting out for some reason. Listen to how crappy this sounds. I'm cutting out. Yeah, you're cutting out. I'll find it for the next show. This is too much. This is too much nonsense to listen to. But someone else said that I was right about something else. I forgot what it was. Yeah, you're right about stuff all the time. Nah, well, not really. Yeah, so, um...

I have a Venezuela clip. I have two TikTok clips that are interesting. Okay. Here is the independent woman. When someone tells me that they're interested in me and I should just give them a chance, I genuinely ask them, what are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I have an extensive routine, okay? I wake up at 4.30, I read for an hour, then I go to the gym for an hour. Then I get ready to go to my full-time job. While I'm getting ready, I make myself breakfast. Then I pack my lunch, which I have already meal prepped for myself for the full week. I go to work, I come

I come home from work. I c to the gym for another ho I come back up to my apar rent for and I clean, I co then if I have any time b bedtime, I do another on that I have come home a read, crochet, puzzle, who knows? What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? I want something, I buy it. I pay for all my own bills. I cook for myself. I clean for myself. What are you going to give me that I already don't give myself? Because my time is fully booked. Now that was interesting, you said? Yes, because I'm listening to this woman who's a psycho

And I'm thinking this is the perfect employee that you want to hire for a company. She's a dedicated person, is very independent, she'd work her butt off until she drops dead at the company, and she probably works cheap. I just think this to me exemplifies a modern woman who has just decided to become a cog in the wheel. And one of her hobbies is coloring, by the way, which tells you a lot. I think that's a key. Wow. The show is off the rails now. This is... Off the rails. What are you doing? Okay, let's play this one. Then we're done. I won't do any more TikToks for a month.

Fat chronically ill woman if I needed a job. I would ask for a job. I'm just a little chronically ill and can't work I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work. I'm disabled and chronically ill and can't work I had somebody DM me yesterday had a message request. Hi. I have a website you could do that work It's probably the same amount of work or less than making tick tocks first of all I'm hyper fixated on tick-tock if you don't know what that means I then you don't get to have a conversation with me. If you don't understand how that works, you don't get to have a conversation with me. But all of my videos say I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. Or they should. Or they imply that.

I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. I am asking for money. I am asking for money specifically because that is what I need. If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Say again, if I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Y'all are so abusive and make yourselves believe that you're being helpful when you are just ignoring people and imposing your own will onto them. I am disabled and chronically ill and cannot work. If I needed a job, I would ask for a job. Okay, and this was interesting. Why? Well, she's fat for starters. Well, she can do call center work. No, she doesn't want to work. Oh. And there's a bunch of people out there like this. There's a lot of TikTokers that I'm not going to take a job. Why should I be working? I just want money. Yeah. And it's just beyond me. And I can't quite figure it out. And you can't have a conversation with them because you don't understand anything. You're an idiot.

And I just, I don't know, I'm just kind of baffled by these people out there in the wild that are doing these things. Because I know she's sincere. I don't see why you're baffled. This has become, ever since Patreon, this has become a business model. Just send me money. Subscribe to my Patreon. I'm doing fun stuff. Send me money. This is... But she's not doing fun stuff. She's just complaining. Well, you're entertaining by it. Well, I guess that's what I do too. So I guess some people say... Put her on deck. That's right. Put her on deck. You would do an interview with her. Darren and this lady. It's gonna be beautiful. Oh, that's a great show. Well, along those lines,

Maybe we could make a Barbie doll for her. At 28 years old, Ellie Middleton says this is the first time she's seen a doll that reflects her day-to-day experience as an autistic person. She's looking off to the side slightly, which is really nice because I basically never make eye contact. Developed with advice from the autistic self-advocacy network, Autistic Barbie wears noise-canceling headphones to protect her from loud noises, carries an AAC tablet, which some autistic people use to communicate, and a pink fidget spinner that provides an outlet for stimming or self-stimulatory behavior. I think it's so nice to see those parts.

of, I guess, myself that I'm maybe embarrassed of sometimes or not as proud of as I should be but seeing those like as part of who she is I think was really nice to see. Autistic Barbie follows in the footsteps of blind Barbie, Barbie with Down syndrome and Barbie with type 1 diabetes. Holy crap I had no idea they expanded the line! Yeah! That's fantastic. We need podcaster Barbie. That's what we need. Podcaster Barbie, influence TikToker Barbie. Yeah. All of these. And obese... That's money. What you just said is money in the bank. And obese... TikToker influencer Barbie. Obese influencer who doesn't want to work Barbie. I'm telling you. Mattel, give us a call. Final clip for me is...

This may actually lead into your Venezuela clip because I believe this is about intelligence and secret documents regarding the Venezuela op. Members of the media expressing deep concern, the FBI took the rare step of going to the home of a Washington Post reporter. and confiscating her phone and other electronic devices. After early morning FBI search at the residence of reporter Hannah Nasonson, The Post issuing an urgent message to the staff. Quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concern around the constitutional protections for our work. So none of this, it wasn't a big deal when Obama did all this. Through people in jail.

They threw people in jail, but that was okay. But Trump's FBI, Trump's FBI, the FBI looking for the goods on somebody that they have targeted, not this reporter. That's not right. Okay. I just wanted to get that straight. After early morning FBI search at the residence of reporter Hannah Nascentson, The Post issuing an urgent message to the staff. Quote, this extraordinary aggressive action is deeply concerning and raises profound questions and concern around the constitutional protections for our work. But tonight, DOJ officials pushing back, claiming that the search was necessary because the reporter had received classified information from a government contractor who was arrested last week for the unlawful retention of national defense information. Justice Department official telling ABC News at the time of his arrest, Aurelio Luis Perez Lugones was communicating with the Washington Post reporter on his mobile device and in the chat there was classified information.

David, Washington Post leaders say they were told the newspaper and the reporter were not targets of the investigation. But David, this action is so rare that a number of media experts are calling it an aggressive escalation and a threat to the free press. Now my understanding was that this guy had some information on the Venezuela op. And that's... Maybe. And it tells me that you, that everything you do on your phone is pretty much public. How do they know this? How do they know the chat? Whatever chat they were talking about. They use a signal. A signal is supposed to be end-to-end encrypted. How is it possible? Well, they, on the end, her end, they can look at the chat. Just look at her screen, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Do you have the Venezuelan encryption? That was the idea.

The Venezuela clip I have just the update from yesterday. information that Attorney General Pam Bondi says posed a risk to the nation's national security. President Trump is also recently giving a readout of a call he had today with interim president of Venezuela, Dulce Rodriguez. He says that they discussed oil, minerals, trade and national security and touts the partnership between Venezuela and the U.S. And tomorrow the president is expected to meet with the Venezuelan opposition leader, Maria Machado, here at the White House.

Yeah, the more I think about Machado, who by the way wasn't the candidate, someone pointed that out to us, she was an organizer but was not the candidate, it was some other dude, you remember his name? No, I don't. But she's obviously some kind of shill. Why else would you get a peace prize? Who else got a peace prize? Let me think, Obama? Trump doesn't, that's why he doesn't want her in there. He'll meet with her to take the peace prize from her because she's going to give it to him. But he doesn't want her running it. It makes no sense. If you win a peace prize, you're in the system, wouldn't you say? I'm not going to be able, I can't think of any reason that that's not absolutely true.

Because Obama's thing was a scam. Yeah, and so is this he got a peace price for giving a couple This is before he became president just before they inaugurated him. They He gave a bunch of speeches, you know for about a year and they're all just you know pieces speeches about peace So there you get the prize just for talking about talking a big game then as soon as he got in office started bombing people and It was a farce. Yes. And also, the oil baron keeps, he's very forceful with me. He's like, nobody wants to do anything in Venezuela unless the government pays them to. It's very low reward for the risk. And the only guys who will make any money is actually, didn't the president say, which oil company do you say they can go pound sand?

Was it Exxon? No, definitely not Exxon. It wasn't Exxon. You can't tell them to pound sand. Or salt in my case. Hold on a second. It was... Well, those... Who was it now? I can't remember. What are the big three? Well Chevron who's already there. They're not being told to do anything other than what they're doing Yeah, they just Chevron's got the best they got the foothold. I thought it was and the other big boys of some mobile and Exxon I thought it was Exxon Mobil actually excellent mobile so that doesn't count that's right. They merged and so you have Phillips is the big boy well Hanukkah Phillips, I think

The president told someone they because they were I think he told BP or these Europeans Maybe maybe it was BP. Well anyway, but but they know it wasn't BP It was one of the big refiners who is already here in America already refining this stuff He's like all those guys aren't gonna get anything from us. I I don't know. I wish I remembered. I'm sorry. I'm ill prepared. I'm trying to but I can't find it. Thank you to the multiple military Department of Defense 29 years of Department of Defense intelligence experience. Yep. We love people like you. 300 rounds a minute is nothing apparently. Delta Force operators could easily achieve 650 rounds per minute

And the squad automatic weapons have a cycling rate of 450 to 500 rounds a minute, which I think kind of goes to your point that that sonic weapon and all that stuff, which some say would probably be concussion, a flashbang without a flash, that is indeed just a bunch of propaganda. Yeah, to scare them. Yeah. And scare the drug networks. Yeah. And I think the guy who made all the commentary, the so-called guard, You know, who said, oh, they did this and I don't want to experience that again. Bleeding from my nose and my eyes and I'm throwing up. I mean, it's just a scare. Scare these, you know, dumb drug dealers. Yeah. It was Exxon, John. President Trump is because really Exxon of all of them. Yeah. Yeah. It was Exxon. Oh, I wonder what happened there. But Exxon in Baton Rouge has a refinery to perfect for Venezuelan oil. So they're like, yeah, bring it on. Let someone else go do that. We're not going to do it.

So it's the weirdest thing. What is oil at? Oil is like at a very low rate right now, very low price. Yeah, that heavy stuff is still expensive. Yeah. That's the Brent. If you look at the two prices, the West Texas WTI number is always about 10 bucks less a barrel than Brent, which is the heavy sour crap. Well, there you go, everybody. Donate to the No Agenda Show. Send some of that heavy sour crap. We'll know what to do with it. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

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Before we get to John's tip of the day and our end of show mixes, which are not all AI. I warn you in advance, some stuff you'll probably actually like. We always like to select the end of show ISO in this portion of the segment. I have three, you have two. Do you want to go first? No, because I like to bump mine. Okay, here's number one. Like, I genuinely think it's hilarious. I don't even like that one. Let me try this one. You guys have had a most magnificent season. Season. Season. This is the one. These two guys are married! Come on. Okay. Okay, what? You got it. You're not even gonna play yours? I'm bumping mine. Alright, well, we move straight on to our last segment, John's tip of the day.

♫ Create a faster you and me ♫ Just a tip with JCB and sometimes Adderall. Alright, this website people should have on their list of websites they go to routinely, it's called Snap Files. Snap Files. Yeah, Snap Files, this is a listing of the current, the current, snapfiles.com. The current freeware and shareware products that are out there, the latest versions. Haven't you done this one before? No, I don't think so. I've done other stuff similar, but not this one. This is different. This basically keeps up with stuff. So you get, for example, you have, although this is a different list than it was the last time I looked, because it keeps changing daily.

You have like the latest VLN and some of these other products that you should be using for it. And there's products you never think of using. It's just a good website to get, they have a freeware pick. These are software systems that are free. You don't have to pay money. Free like AI free? Free, well no, AI is negative free. Yeah. Well, what does it have better here? What does it have on it? Freeware. Oh, shareware. So they still list shareware? That's still a thing? Yeah, well it is. This site looks like it's from 1987. Yeah, well that's because it's probably made with shareware. Nobody said shareware is modern. Shareware. That was great, wasn't it? Shareware. Shareware.

What do they have under shareware? We have anti-spam tools. Well, they still have Outlook add-ons. Really? Yeah. Hey, it's for a real computer enthusiast. And there's freeware. Oh man, my favorite freeware. The open source formerly known as freeware. Wow. Will this load on Windows or do you need Windows 3.1 to use? No, it loads fine. Okay. There it is, your tip of the day. Find them all at noagendafund.com, tipoftheday.net. Created by Dana Brunetti. If you stay tuned to the No Agenda stream, noagendastream.com, you will hear up next on the stream, who are these broadcasters? I've not heard this, have I heard this podcast?

Who are these podcasters? No, who are these broadcasters? I think it's the same guys. Oh, okay. Nikki Glaser's Golden Globes and a crybaby takes over CBS News. Oh yeah, we didn't do anything on the Globes. You know, it's interesting to note that we've stopped covering award shows completely on this show. We used to mock them. Well, because they had shills with a podcast award and Snoop Dogg awarded it and as far as I'm concerned if Joe Rogan isn't nominated, it's bogus. And I agree with that. And us, of course. It's totally bogus. So, sorry, M5M, we're not promoting you. End of show mixes. MVP, Bonald Crabtree and Baron Noah Vattenmacher, the Sierra Botolith.

All coming up and we will return on Sunday to bring you at least three hours of the best podcast in the universe and media deconstruction. And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you here on Sunday. Please remember us, support the show at noagendadonation.com. Value for value, any amount, any any time you want to. Until then, adios mofos, a hui hui and such. Queen Lil Marco hereby announce the 51st state is officially in the house! I'm looking at the stars and I'm adding one more We're bringing all the true coins right to the shore The frozen office open for the ultimate trade The biggest real estate deal that has ever been made Queen Lil Marco's busy on the digital screen Turning every tundra into something pristine

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51 stars on the banner now! Shroom coin took us to the top of the world! Make Greenland green again! Anarchy? Well, that was something we read about in our newspapers that was always happening in other countries. Perhaps the people in other countries had just reasons to riot against their governments. After all, many of the nations of the world are dictatorships in one form or another. What business was it of ours anyway? Newsworthy, perhaps, but it could never happen here.

Then, in the summer of 1964, widespread rioting and looting suddenly broke out in Harlem, in Rochester, in Newark, in Jersey City, in Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Chicago, all within a few days of each other. It was as though an unseen hand had given the signal. Then, on August 18th, 1965, guns replaced nightsticks in the hands of law enforcement officers as the Watts area of Los Angeles literally burst into a call room of insurrection.

Thousands of rioters roamed the streets both night and day, smashing and looting, and setting the torch to over 50 square miles of the city. Hidden snipers held police and firefighters at bay as fires raged unabated. At least 35 Americans died in the violence and gunfire. The sheer magnitude of this monstrous madness strained the abilities of the civil authorities and the California National Guard were sent to Watts with orders to quell the violence with brute force if necessary. The spectacle of American soldiers shooting it out with American civilians was even more shocking than the rioting itself. The nation was stunned and horrified. No smugness now.

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