Episode 568 · Sunday, 24 November 2013

Heteroflexible Previvor

Federal agencies stockpile controversial bird flu vaccines while international climate negotiations collapse in Poland and biometric monitoring enters American classrooms under the guise of student grit.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 43m listen | 40 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 568

About this episode

The FDA has authorized a GlaxoSmithKline H5N1 bird flu vaccine containing the AS03 adjuvant for the national stockpile, sparking concerns over past links to narcolepsy. This regulatory move coincides with the CDC launching a seventy-five thousand dollar Predict the Influenza Season Challenge to forecast viral peaks. Meanwhile, Willie Nelson and his band members sustained injuries after their tour bus crashed on icy roads during a Nordic outbreak of cold weather across Texas.

In Warsaw, major NGOs including Greenpeace and Oxfam staged a massive walkout from the COP 19 climate summit to protest stalled finance negotiations. Activists like Patrick Bond are demanding the repayment of climate debt by wealthy nations as the focus shifts from carbon trading to direct financial transfers. Domestically, the Department of Education is exploring the use of biometric sensors and posture-analysis seats to monitor student grit and tenacity. These initiatives, funded by the now-shuttered Stupski Foundation, aim to collect non-cognitive data on children through Google Drive surveys and Pearson Education platforms.

Sir Chris Abraham and Sir Brian Ferguson receive their official knighthood during a special ceremony ahead of the Thanksgiving broadcast. The etymology of the hat trick is traced back to 1879 cricket traditions, while a local Austin meme regarding being due on stage makes a recurring appearance. Listeners are reminded to provide time codes for video links to avoid the dreaded pet peeve of unread software dialogue boxes.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

Nordic Outbreak, Global Cooling, and Willie Nelson Bus Accident

The hosts discuss the "Nordic outbreak" of cold weather in Texas and California, framing it as evidence of global cooling. They report on Willie Nelson's tour bus crashing on slick roads, resulting in injuries to three band members. The conversation transitions into the dangers of bus and boating accidents.

nordic outbreak· global cooling· willie nelson· bus accident· freezing rain

00:02 Oh, it was a dark November day. It was a Sunday in November. Dvorak was back in California and Curry in Texas But the prognosis was not good! That's funny because that relates to a clip I have... oh really? Well then I'll keep this one handy just in case And we're good to go. Although your thing is a little more dramatic than mine, it's more subtle but anyway hit it! Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday November 24th 2013 time for your Gizmo Nation media assassination episode 568 This Is No Agenda

00:44 Presenting the only podcast that is peer-reviewed from the Travis Hines Hideout in Austin, Texas. Good morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i can sound happy too...I'm John C. Dvorak. Yes however you can't undo it and then say here's Bon Jovi. It doesn't work when you say it It's not the same thing. No, you said I couldn't say it. You didn't say it wouldn't work. Yeah, doesn't sound right. What do you mean? Are you accusing me of being a puker? Well, I've been sitting here waiting for you... You're back from Amsterdam! Yes! It is now warm again. No, it's not. It's like we never left. It's crazy. This is uh... Like Haiti here. Here in Texas, we are suffering from

01:41 The Nordic outbreak! Have you been following the Nordic outbreak, John? Did you put echo on that? I did yeah. It sounded really good It's assuming the long pause in the cornwall. Yeah, okay? What the nordic outbreak is a global cooling yes We're back we have freezing rain predicted for tonight nice yeah So it's like we never left it was get Mickey's camera ready because I would get freezing rain you might get some really cool photos cool accidents here Yeah, no it's so it's very interesting to see how global cooling is taking charge and in fact Willie Nelson's tour bus crashed because of slick roads yesterday. Oh That thing's one of those giant buses too right? Yeah well three of his band members were actually injured had to go to the hospital It's just nobody wears seat belts in those buses yeah exactly I

02:41 I was in one of those big buses like that size bus and it says it got rammed into a car. It was in New York Was this when you were on tour with the Grateful Dead? No, just a regular...it was a bus of people coming to...I don't know if it's an airport or something but there is one these huge buses and I always try to grab the front seat. Yeah, bus accidents are no joke by the way So i could get into that well...I know they're no joke if it's a really bad accident because that bus moves falls but when their buses usually hit something like it hit this car yeah It just killed the car, the bus nothing. Oh yeah. Saw this wave and boom! Plows into this car and it's like you wouldn't even know you were in an accident if inside the bus I think Willie's bus hit an overpass or something and it stopped the bus whatever happened Well that's not good No, it's like boating accidents people never think about those they're so dangerous When a boat is traveling and then stops because it hits something man...it's not okay

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

John F. Kennedy Remembrance and Presidential Proclamations

The discussion covers the media's extensive coverage of the Day of Remembrance for President John F. Kennedy, which the hosts characterize as a source of free content for news outlets. They also note recent presidential proclamations for National Family Week and National Child Day.

john f. kennedy· conspiracy theories· national family week· national child day· presidential proclamation

03:41 Yeah, you're still doing 40 miles an hour. Exactly exactly. Oh it's a interesting day interesting week some presidential proclamations of course we had the Day of Remembrance for President John F Kennedy which was... Was that a day of remembrances or months of rememberances? This has been going on week after week and so annoying Because obviously anyone who's a conspiracy theorist is an idiot because of course, you know that's part of what all this reporting was about. But I just tried to avoid all of it It's just really really... ugh! I guess is you know? I think it's cuz its free content as well You know what I mean

04:25 for the news guys because of all that footage is all public domain. Yeah, you don't have to do any work and there's packages flying everywhere! Just throw some video together... it's perfect for the Thanksgiving week coming up so you'll have none of that here however I also must let you know that we will be enjoying National Family Week as per presidential proclamation And let us not forget National Child Day, which when was that? The 19th and we just missed it. So it's been a very busy month. There is some transgender thing that was going on. Transgender week or awareness or something I'd probably wasn't listed by the president should have been yeah. A short clip which brought an interesting point to mind which I was unaware of

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Planting Peace, Transgender Flag, and Bi-Curious Definitions

A house in Topeka, Kansas, owned by the group Planting Peace, was painted in the colors of the transgender flag to protest Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church. The hosts examine the design of the transgender flag and read the Wikipedia definition for "bi-curious" and "heteroflexible" identities.

planting peace· fred phelps· transgender flag· bi-curious· wikipedia

05:20 And this is from the gay news that's on Free Speech TV. Apparently somebody has a house across the street from that Fred Phelps maniac, that church that just walks around demeaning gays and veterans. They're allowed to do these things and you'd think they would read the papers once in awhile and figure out what the laws actually are We do have one picture we want to put up of a nice story to end this section. Not completely, but go ahead and I'll have another one. Okay well this is a quality house in Topeka Kansas which you may remember was bought

06:01 by a group called Planting Peace right across the street from Fred Phelps' compound. To annoy him, you see the rainbow flag flying under the U.S. flag on top of the building. Usually it's painted in the rainbow stripes but for Transgender Day of Remembrance they painted it in the colors of the transgender flag." Wait a minute! Wait a minute... The transgendered have a flag? Hold on a second. I was wondering whether you'd care to say what they have we have to have a flag Yes, we need a bike Wow did you wow? The transgendered flag is whacked it's hmm This is interesting with some street argots from Amsterdam It's uh its white green pink white pink green That's weird

06:54 We need a flag. You're right John, we need the flag that says I'm confused! You can be LGBT or confused. So anyway yeah...I was very uh.. I was like what? This house is painted in the flag colors. Notice it was just to annoy him Yeah i just found that's actually an interesting commentary because Why don't you just ignore him? Because it's fun because it brings attention to I mean The more I see it and again, I'm bi curious which is a category on Craigslist and back. It is yes

07:38 It um, I'm on craigslist. It's not in the wikipedia is it? Um, I don't know i've never looked it up But if you go on a craigslist under adult services or you know hookups by curious wikipedia Yeah there you go What does this say see they should have my name in there They shouldn't can you link to my wiki page no but i'll put your name in there Don't worry about Bi-curious is a phenomenon in which people of a heterosexual or homosexual identity who, while showing some curiosity for relationship or sexual activity with the person of the sex they do not favor distinguish themselves from bisexual label.

08:17 The term is somewhat used to describe a broad continuum of sexual orientation between heterosexuality and bisexuality. The terms heteroflexible... Now you're talking! ...and homoflexible are also applied to bicuriosity I am hetero-flexible Though some authors distinguish hetero flexibility as lacking the wish to experiment with sexuality implied by the bicurious label So it's a third category. The term bi-curious implies that the individual has either no or limited homosexual experiences in the case of heterosexual individuals, or no or limited heterosexual experience in the case of homosexual people but may continue to self identify as bi-curious if they do not feel they have adequately explored these feelings." Yes! There you go I am heteroflexible. That's best

09:06 I'm exploring my hetero... bisexual. I'm exploring my hetero flexibility right now. By anything! Yeah, but you know what? We don't get any props from the president we don't get mentioned no it's only only is like only bisexual is recognized. I have a Wikipedia entry so I think its valid and I think we should have a day and flag I found, just to switch gears for a second. You know how when Angelina Jolie... well i'll just say the crude way of saying this she had her boobs lopped off but she

09:47 But she went through this whole thing, she had the BRCA1 or the BRCA2 gene which the test is patented only one company can do it and she went to this clinic. And then they...she had a double mastectomy and then she had reconstructive surgery where they keep the nipples intact I might point out as per the clinic that she went to And we said, and at the time I think we said hey wait a minute this is something's weird going on with this. Turns out this is all paid for by insurance it is law in America that insurance must cover reconstructive surgery and the bonanza is here John! I have proof In the inflight magazine from Atlanta to Austin uh...and you're gonna just it's crazy I found the full page ad The Center for Restorative Breast Surgery

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Breast Cancer Previvors and Insurance-Funded Reconstructive Surgery

The term "previvor" is identified as a label for individuals with a genetic predisposition to cancer who undergo preventative surgeries. The hosts critique advertisements for the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery, suggesting that legal mandates for insurance to cover reconstructive surgery have created a loophole for elective cosmetic procedures.

previvor· brca1· breast cancer· reconstructive surgery· insurance scam

09:06 I'm exploring my hetero... bisexual. I'm exploring my hetero flexibility right now. By anything! Yeah, but you know what? We don't get any props from the president we don't get mentioned no it's only only is like only bisexual is recognized. I have a Wikipedia entry so I think its valid and I think we should have a day and flag I found, just to switch gears for a second. You know how when Angelina Jolie... well i'll just say the crude way of saying this she had her boobs lopped off but she

09:47 But she went through this whole thing, she had the BRCA1 or the BRCA2 gene which the test is patented only one company can do it and she went to this clinic. And then they...she had a double mastectomy and then she had reconstructive surgery where they keep the nipples intact I might point out as per the clinic that she went to And we said, and at the time I think we said hey wait a minute this is something's weird going on with this. Turns out this is all paid for by insurance it is law in America that insurance must cover reconstructive surgery and the bonanza is here John! I have proof In the inflight magazine from Atlanta to Austin uh...and you're gonna just it's crazy I found the full page ad The Center for Restorative Breast Surgery

10:42 There's a new term that may not be new but it was new to me. That was that's been introduced So here's how it works you go get a test To see if you have the gene not if you have cancer, but if you have the gene You get a probability which and this is part of the law by the way It's it's if you have the gene or a percentage of probability that you will get breast cancer then you can have a radical mastectomy with built-in reconstructive surgery and it is by law has to be covered by the insurance company. I'm looking at this picture full page ad, the woman is in her bikini she has beautiful breasts at least that we can see in the bikini and she says for a radical preventative decision like this one I would not have trusted any other physicians Tamara Donovan breast cancer previvor

11:48 The hell's a previvor? You're a pre-survivor. What does that mean?! You're a pre cancer survivor, don't you get it!? No! This is how insane it has become! Instead of being a breast cancer survivor... ...you are a breast cancer PREVIVOR because you took the test had the gene had the mastectomy and got some beautiful boobs back with your original nipples all covered by insurance It's a boob job scam Holy Wow, right. Yes is exactly what it is free viver go to you can see their web revive Go to breast center comm that's their website and I think I have a what is this? What does they pre viver III started looking this term up and in exists I tried to get the domain name but was already taken like man. I need pre pre viver calm

12:42 What is a previvor? A previvor is a survivor of predisposition to cancer. Excuse me, just hit me now in the face! The term specifically applies to the portion of our community that has its own needs and concerns separate from the general population and different from those already diagnosed with cancer Time Magazine declared the term... This is unbelievable and by the way, just to interrupt you. Yeah? Hitting the images Previvor has its own little ribbon thing It does! it has a green and pink ribbon Yes got a green and pink ribbon and there's this logo boy somebody's been...this campaign is done...this money Of course but think about

13:30 How many women would love... Previvor Day 9, 26, 12. We missed this! We missed Previvor Day? But think about it for a second and I'm not against this. I just want to point out what it really is. I think lots of women would love to have different breasts because of the peer pressure the world the way it is but of course you know it's really wrong in most circles like I just went up no you can't have beautiful or you can go get a boob job and it's also very expensive however Now you take the test, you get a percentage of likelihood of breast cancer. Which by the way I think the Curry-Dvorak DNA analysis group might be in order? We'll analyze it just spit in this baggie send it to us we'll analyze it according to our patented system and make sure its spit Thank You And then we send you back a diagnosis that says yes you are predispositioned

14:29 And then, whoop! Boom. Insurance takes care of it gets beautiful boobs and if you look at this did you look at the breast center dot com website? I'm looking all these images on Previvor No i didn't If you look at breastcenter dot com I think this is the actual place that did Angelina Jolie because they have her testimonial on their website and they have a the nipple sparing mastectomy This is there speciality So they take your existing nipple, unless you're not happy with that I'm sure we can do something for ya. They save that and they put it back on and everyone's gonna... And they make beautiful breasts! And I've spoken to a number of women about this and they're all like yeah this is just the way to get a boob job. This is why our health care is out of control. The cost of healthcare in this country worse than the world Now I will say

15:29 you know, as a contributor to the system because of course I pay high fees to enable other people. That's how the system works it's mandatory where i pay premiums and they're all very high but this has to be done so that 35 million Americans who never had health care can have it and if all the women who have never had that can go get some beautiful breasts I'm all for it! I think that's well invested It'll make us a happy country. But let's not shit each other about it, okay? This is what's really happening... Previvor! We can have every reality show now on Previvor!" Wow well you stunned me with this one Okay and it's funny that has been going at least a year old and we took us this long to catch up to it I was just flabbergasted One of those great words When I saw this full-page ad Flabbergasted is better than amazed

16:34 What really does... internationally recognized leaders in the most advanced breast reconstructive surgeries including the immediate nipple sparing mastectomy? It's the INSM, The Immediate Nipple Sparing Mastectomy. Right here today on Previvor! I'm gonna have to scan this ad because of the girl she looks like kind of like a mid-30s you can't see her face just heard it's cut off at our mouth and she's in her bikini. She looks beautiful Rockin no, it's just not some some stock shot No idea where that big. It's Tamara Donovan breast cancer previvor. It's that's proof right there Wow guys I feel a little slighted now can we get a

17:24 Can we get a pre-vivor treatment for something? Dick enlargement. No, all we get is like prostate removal. Thanks! Women get great boobs if we get the prostate. Thanks So that was one of the highlights of our trip back, I have to say. Well Joe give us some more insight on what was going on over there? By the way, let me tell you about my little things about going to Florida and back. Apparently Southwest put TSA Pre on my boarding pass Right yeah in fact we were starting to say this when we got distracted I realized We never really got into it Well i'm getting into it now

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

TSA PreCheck Procedures and Southwest Airlines Security Fees

Observations on new TSA PreCheck procedures include the use of purple flashlights on boarding passes and the ability to leave shoes and laptops in bags. One host reports a conversation with a supervisor claiming Southwest Airlines offers a version of expedited screening for an $85 fee.

tsa precheck· southwest airlines· airport security· magnetometer· screening

18:06 So you go to the beginning, now they have a guy that got one more new hire. Is that the very... You know you get into cattle call line and then you get into the guy who looks at your thing and he looks at you and then puts it Now there's this little funny looking flashlight useless flashlights that they splash onto the boarding pass Have you seen this? Yeah yeah It's purple flashlight What is that supposed to do? To see if you wrote anything in lemon juice on it I think it's just stupid. You should bring a lemon and little, you know cut straw and put like a swastika or something on it. See what happens when they shine that blue light on it? They puts the little light on there and then they maybe is for some, maybe they're looking for somebody who has got some good coat. It's B-Bill Who knows Whatever the case but now they've got a guy way at the beginning of the cattle line who looks at your past to see if your pre

19:02 Which means pre-screened right and that's for the new pro previous so it's mindset free TSA So I went into this line. It's pretty check right? It's not pretty check yeah, yeah, so they the guy So he's a little shorter line as the same thing they don't have the spinning Device that net bodies naked body scanner a millimeter wave they have just of their magnetometer Yeah, believe you another yelling at you anyway Leave your shoes on! Yeah, right. Leave them on! So when we came back from... We always fly from Schiphol to Atlanta and then from Atlanta to Austin And by the way it's so beautiful just you know when you come in the Schiphol airport and boom You know the no agenda hidden Wi-Fi pops up and it's just blazingly fast and that's just so nice It's SO nice

20:01 And so we go through the passport thing and we were really early, like an hour earlier than we'd had to be. So we had a massage there at the airport which is quite nice it's such a sophisticated thing to do before you leave. And then if it were a Delta flight we would have to go through the questioning but it wasn't a Delta flight on KLM, they don't ask you any questions. And they had a magnetometer but they also had two slave scanners and you know Miss Mickey and I would just say oh we want to opt out let's say Oh no problem! And then yeah so uh...and you take off your shoes which you don't have to take off your shoes in their slave scanner for some reason which is of course completely different from the United States and somebody went through the magnetometer then get a pat down which is John 20 seconds and you know and then of course my bag is always like

20:55 You got a microphone in there? Which of course is the studio bag. I'm using the Rode Procaster, which you know...I would think it looks like a huge dildo so I was like oh yeah you just want to see if i'm not carrying a dildo is what I said Okay, I like the idea of being funny and trying to get the TSA or any of these security guys that yuck it up with you. You know what? Does it look like a bomb?! You know what the girl said? She says no dildos turn up orange on our scanner so we know what they are Oh! Well you learned something That's information I didn't have

21:38 Wow But I actually had to say, you know you may. I just say you guys are so much nicer than our state Stasi police in America were yelling at you is it this nice? You know, it's a quick pat down and they evaluate good to go It's fast its quick. It's the cheerful They're not yelling at you Well here's the interesting thing about the pre-screen that I thought was little different Besides not having to take your shoes or anything else off and besides having a magnetometer and rushing your right through, checking your bags and not doing much... You don't take your laptop out. Yeah of course not! It's all bogus. Because it is all bogus so they say leave you laptop in! I went asked the supervisor after this was done. Oh hey how come i didn't have to take my laptop out? It could've been explosive No he didn't do that

22:30 Went to the supervisor that was sitting behind some big desk He looked like a judge or what look like one of those old scenes from New York Precinct where there's the cop is sitting way up in the top. Oh, yeah Yeah That's how they all are they have their little throne back there? So I went over and asked the guy I don't know if he was running at things it looked like his people kept asking him stuff so I said What's the deal with this with why did I go through that line? It's over we're testing the pre-screen To see if there's any glitches And I said, oh and what is that about? He says well it's you got he says TSA has been testing it because apparently there's the if you go to tsa.gov that you can sign up for this cost money but he also said Southwest is doing their own version yeah! I was like what?! He says yes Southwest for 85 bucks you can get through their system and its same you still go through the pre-screen but your not

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

KLM In-Flight Medical Emergency and Strategy of Tension

A personal anecdote describes a medical emergency on a KLM flight where a passenger suffered from high blood pressure, causing a panic among the crew and passengers. The hosts link this anxiety to a broader "strategy of tension" designed to keep the public on edge.

klm· medical emergency· high blood pressure· strategy of tension· flight attendant

23:25 cleared, you know for unless you're flying southwest. You still gonna have to go through the normal this thing This is so why would you do that? This is this is annoying The whole thing isn't a it's bullcrap B It's a money grab C. It's just there to annoy me So now we're flying We're flying and we are wearing the economy comfort which I had to say on KLM Is it you know, you pay like 100 bucks extra ticket well worth it for the leg room with extra inches Yeah And now, so I'm in a deep sleep and all of a sudden like...and I have my headphones on. I think was listening to Dvorak Horowitz unplugged but I've fallen asleep so yeah I mean one of those... Thank you very much! There ya go! Thanks for the plug That's how it goes and all of a sudden like I'm being shaken awake I'm like what? And Nikki is looking at me like panicked she says there's something going on something going...she was asleep too

24:21 and there's like yelling and commotion, I'm like oh man. So half a cabin back you know it was someone apparently we thought was having a heart attack and the stewardesses, flight attendants i should say start walking through the aisles is there a medical doctor on board? Is there a medical doctor on board? And I'm like I can fly the plane! What happened is some guy had high blood pressure wasn't feeling well wife or daughter or whatever started freaking out and it turns out the guys had to take his high blood pressure pills like oh people are so on edge you know

25:04 freaking out just like I've been on three flights where somebody's had a heart attack. Yeah and they came back with the whole with the paddles and everything but then they never was watching my eyes it's in there just put the blood pressure thing on those paddles, I don't need that yeah but i think it's you know we people are stretched were uptight were all kind of freaking out uh... And there is a strategy of tension thats being taken advantage of If here's three reports in a row that are solely intended To be put on the television just to freak you out and make you nervous This was what's happening. Why is this not? It was certainly a big scare in the air And it was caught on tape pilots had to make an emergency landing after passengers started yelling about a bomb onboard a Spirit Airlines plane

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

Spirit Airlines Bomb Scare and Teddy Bear Explosive Report

The hosts analyze news reports of a Spirit Airlines passenger arrested in Atlanta after claiming there was a bomb on board. They also discuss a report from North Carolina involving a teddy bear allegedly filled with wires and gas, questioning the logic and reporting of these incidents.

spirit airlines· bomb threat· atlanta· teddy bear bomb· north carolina

25:58 Another passenger shot this video and posted it to YouTube Friday. The plane landed in Atlanta where police arrested the disorderly passenger investigators believe he suffers from a mental illness sweep of the plane revealed there was no bomb on that plane now here's the problems with this particular report one The video was shot while they're on the ground. The Atlanta PD is on the plane, the guy's yelling there's a bomb on the plane yet he's holding onto the seat that it said and then the police are trying to get him off the plane and he's holding onto the seat I'm sorry this makes no sense if there's a bomb on the plane why do you want to stay on the plane? Two what do you mean a sweep of the plane this is not procedure

26:44 If someone's yelling there is a bomb on the plane, everyone off the plane. All of the luggage off the plane... This is something that is wrong and makes no sense You can't just say this guy is clearly nuts let us have a quick look in the bathroom and move on So that is bull crap reporting and it is intended to scare you How about this one? Police in North Carolina are trying to figure out who put a bomb inside a teddy bear. A man delivering newspapers took the bear home then realized it contained wires and smelled like gas He called 911 and police sent out a bomb squad I'm just trying to figure out why would you put a bomb in their teddy bear in the first place? Like if anybody had picked it up probably It will be a little kid Clear this up as quickly as we can, and maybe prevent something like this from happening again

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Los Angeles International Airport Prank Call and SWAT Response

A reported security incident at LAX terminals 4 and 5 involved heavy police presence and passengers being told to "shelter in place." The hosts argue the event was likely a drill or a response to a prank call, used to reinforce a state of fear during the Thanksgiving travel season.

lax· terminal 4· prank call· swat· strategy of tension

27:32 The ATF has the bear and the bomb. The Federal Crime Lab will take it apart and inspect it. Oh, won't somebody please think of the children? And then we miss this one, which is again and I have questions about this in today's modern internet age almost 2014. We go to Los Angeles Airport. We begin with two frightening incidents at Los Angeles International Airport. Pay attention to the cops in this report. They happen almost simultaneously one at terminal four and the other at terminal five It sounds like Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad by the way, that one cop. Everybody get down! Sounds just like the guy

28:31 So the cops are walking through like guns pointed everyone's like shut up cower in the corner shelter in place Let's listen to some witnesses at the terminal, but then they didn't find anything suspicious and then they gave the all-clear The first I knew of it was when I was in the ladies restroom and a security guard told us to come and hide in the Baby's room hide in the baby's room because there was lots of yelling and screaming outside. I was in the security line, and they all of a sudden... The security people were shouting Andele! Andele! Get move just get here That is a SWAT term i believe ANDELE ANDELE ANDELE ANDELE ON THE GROUND IN THE BABY BATHROOM ANDELE ANDELE So in 2013 almost 2014 when you say apparently a prank call

29:29 It's you know when someone calls to it. I don't know if they still do this on CSI or whatever But it you don't have to stay on the line for keep them talking for 70 seconds so we can trace the call That's bullcrap. It's like connect ping We know where you are where nowhere is coming from You don't have to like route the true your trace things through multiple wires and agencies with a guy up in the telephone pole With an orange handset no Well it depends on where the call came in. Bullshit! If you were calling the airport I don't think they have the right gear, I mean you can get caller ID but there's one step beyond caller ID Who do you call for a bomb threat? You don't call the police Who do you call for a bomb threat at LAX

30:18 Because the report was very clear. Ghostbusters! Okay, alright so it's not true this is just a drill... You think the whole story is bogus? Yes I do absolutely and and here's okay this way... And the TSA is yelling on delay? Here's what your thesis yes once your cops are sitting around in the lunchroom what are we doing this afternoon where's that case oh now that case was closed we can't wait I have an idea Let's say there was a bomb threat called in the LAX, let's go out there and scare some civilians. This would be great fun! No no you're missing an essential part of the story so two cops are picking up coffee and lunch for the department and they're like hey man this traffic sucks flip on the lights so we can get back quick So first I do that then they're sitting around and say what this is boring what can we do?

31:11 Yes, yes. Yeah we got to get to the donut shop if the lights and sirens... So I am saying strategy of tension it's a well-known strategy We have a lot of people flying in United States certainly for Thanksgiving holiday You know we've got teddy bears that smell like gas Have wires are gonna blow up! We've got guys yelling bomb on the plane We've got another LAX scare from a prank call Yeah, yeah. And the way people respond just like what happened on the play People are on edge It's a dangerous situation We all need to calm down Smoke some weed Well luckily I'm a previvor of any terrorism

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Revis High School Lockdown Drill and School Security Epidemic

A voicemail from Revis High School informs parents of an unannounced emergency lockdown drill. The hosts criticize the frequency of these drills, arguing that the statistical rarity of school incidents does not justify the psychological impact on students.

revis high school· lockdown drill· school security· epidemic· voicemail

31:55 I'm thinking, you know that opera called Make a Bear or whatever it is? Oh! No. What's it called? The Vermont Teddy Bear. No no the one... these franchises that are all over the country. The teddy bear factory or whatever its called and you go in there with your kid yeah and they have all these different skins you pick at different sizes and then different kinds of stuffing and then you actually make the bear at the place Well you could, that's where you want to make a bear with the bomb in it. Yeah! Hey could you leave a little uh... Little room in there for, you know like a free-free hollowbear.com Freehollowbear.com One of our producers has children well lots of our producers have children The kids had a lockdown drill at the school Here's the voicemail that went out to all the parents I inform you that we had an unannounced emergency lock down drill today

32:51 I realize this may have startled some of our students and staff members, but because of the recent events across the country we felt this drill was necessary so that we could be as prepared as possible in case anything were to occur here at Revis. I am happy to report that the students and staff took the drill very seriously, and within 30 seconds the hallways were cleared. And everyone was in a secure classroom or office." Wow! Please know we take the security of our students and employees very seriously. Yeah you're gonna give somebody a heart attack you douche! "...and having drills

33:37 like the one today, should give you a clear indication of our commitment to providing safe and secure environment here at Revis High School. And scaring the children? How many K-12 schools do you think there are in the United States that we're having an epidemic? We've had what two places? Yeah. 132 thousand in 2010. 132 thousand k through 12 schools over thirteen thousand school districts The number, if it's what... essentially we're talking about one in over 100 thousand incident rates. That's an epidemic across the country John! This is not an epidemic this is bull crap If you have any questions and or concerns about the drill today or our safety procedures please do not hesitate to contact me here at Revis

34:27 We thank you for your continued support. What? Continued support? You got no choice. To repeat this message, press 1. Adios mofo! Yeah, thank you for your courage is what he should have said Thank you for your courage. And good morning to you John C. Dvorak! Good morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships that see boots on the ground feet in the air subs of water and all the dames and knights out there Yes and in the morning to all of you who are heteroflexible and all those human resources in the chatroom noagendastream.com noagendachat.net and thank you very much to our wonderful artist Martin JJ two times in a row with The Art

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Hat Trick Etymology

The hosts acknowledge executive producers Sir David Foley and Aaron Hatch for their financial support. During the segment, they research the etymology of the term "hat trick," tracing it back to 1879 cricket traditions where a bowler would receive a hat for taking three wickets.

david foley· aaron hatch· hat trick· cricket· executive producer

35:10 Can he make it a hat trick? Or will you compete? NoahJendartGenerator.com, we love giving everyone... Hat trick! Isn't that nice? A hat trick. That's a nice little term. The hat trick. They have to crank it out to do it. I wonder where the term hat trick came from. Why don't you look it up while I thank some of our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 568 So our executive producer for show 568 is Sir David Foley, Baron of Silicon Valley and all parts south of the San Francisco Bay Area. Isn't he Grand Duke by now? Is he still a Baron? He's on the road selling 4K TVs

35:48 $777.77, he'd be the sole executive producer for show 568 in the morning find a bag of lucky sevens I'm on the road again want to see some sense of Sunday support for the best podcast in universe Thank you very much sir David Foley without you it would have been rather sad today Yes It would have been But it wasn't because David Foley is the baron and that's the way they operate. That's the way it goes, that's the way it goes. Aaron Hatch is an associate executive producer from audio imagery design. Uh oh! Is that a double make-it rain? Well it is but we're supposed to be sighted I guess maybe were supposed to go on stage. Not going on stage for $222 bucks. No no you know where were...that low rent. I'm not a cheap dance

36:38 Please accept my cherry-popping donation of $222.22 to make it rain on us." Okay, well that we can put up with the rain for. Both you yokels he calls us? Yes The work ya'll do is so extremely important... See where's he from what was that Dallas? You know when you gotta talk a little bit like this you're from Dallas Oh no! Dallas is highbrow man It leads in Dallas Dallas talks through their teeth They all talk through their teeth The work y'all do is extremely important but citizens just do not have the time to do the research in order to stay abreast of how corporations and our elected leaders maneuver. But with you two at the helm of the SS shitcutter

37:20 I like that. Navigating us through the slurry of misinformation, distractions and infotainment. Yay! We listeners have found solace with you, the media assassinating guards of reality. Please do not allow yourselves to be compromised and when folks say thank you for your courage... ...I think the sentiment is deeper than y'all realize. Please Thank Oxnard's Doug Dodge for hitting me in the mouth eight months ago. John, you can move into Texas any old day! We'll throw a hat and boots on you stick you into Dodge Ram with a gun rack and your good to go my friend that was good Hat trick 1879 originally from cricket taking three wickets on three consecutive deliveries extended to other sports around 1909

38:16 So it's a cricket metaphor. Wow! Didn't know that, but why is it called a hat? I don't know where it came from but what's the point? Don't they wear silly hats in cricket? I think there were silly hats in England but I don't know if they're doing cricket... I don't remember. Allegedly because it entitled the bowler to receive a hat from his club commemorating defeat Oh, huh. So you get so it I guess but the bowler is Right said that the bowlers a guy was just bouncing the ball toward the right So if he hits three wickets in a row then he gets a hat That by the way is a great premium for no agenda nights a hat Yeah, yeah people don't wear hats LQ Z is easy zed

CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

Listener Donations, Canadian Gun Registry, and Logic Pro Manuals

Donations from listeners LQZ and Edgar Rothermisch prompt a discussion on the Canadian long gun registry and the productivity of Greek workers. A producer promotes his new manual for Apple's Logic Pro X software and thanks the show's jingle creators.

lqz· canada· gun registry· logic pro x· edgar rothermisch

39:10 LQZed. Yeah, in East York Ontario Canada $201 so credit LQZ for this donation of Adam or John is time maybe you could read my book? Lqz. Links are at lqzed.ca Here the smash word codes to get it for free Do we want to yeah and I think I think I think we could read it on there It says here kilo papa 7 4 kilo You can buy it if you like. It's okay to read the code on the R, that's what he says sorry IIRC the Greeks work the most they're not the most productive There's a big difference. What does IIRC stand for again? In...what is IIRC? It's in...in case in Rick said...I have no idea. It's one of those things like OMGU

39:58 IRC, I'd never see it used. Yeah, I see it used from time to time. Look at that, an acronym. Geez! I'm just looking everything up today. Well, I'm reading you can look stuff up otherwise you're just sitting there scratching your belly yeah There's a big difference as for using guns to turn As for using guns to turn moms against the GOP, the Liberal Party in Canada pulled a similar trick with long guns and the Conservative Party. But it was more of a city versus rural issue. For some reason some of my fellow city dwellers believe that registering farmers shotguns would make them safer." I-I-R-C if i recall correctly... I think no one should use that acronym. That's lame. No,no,no. It's like I am not a lawyer

40:45 The fact that all legal handguns are already registered was ignored. John is 6'1". Color me surprised! Giving his history of trolling Mac users, I just assumed he was shorter. You know? There's something to that Edgar Rothermisch in West Hollywood, California. $200 my name is Edgar Rothermisch it has been a while since I last donated so here's a long overdue two hundred dollars and by the way for people out there listening think about that how long it's been and here comes my shameless self-promotion by the way we're working on Thanksgiving yeah well because A it's a Thursday B it's a Bogota holiday

41:36 Well, there's that. And John will as is tradition here on the No Jenner Show. Tell us the real story of Thanksgiving Yes I just released and it has nothing to do with American Native Americans Just released my new book Logic Pro X how it works the first manual for Apple's new logic pro app? I'm sure many listeners use logic for their music production. I also wrote books for Garage Band 2 The books are available on my website dingdingmusic.com slash manuals I also donated a free copy of my Logic book on your behalf to Jeff Smith Oh nice! As an appreciation for his great work in the No Agenda Jingles he uses Logic Pro, thank you for all your courage

42:21 Well thank you for your courage. And that concludes our short list of executive producers, associate executive producers for show 568 and we're going to remind people to go to Dvorak dot org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash na also no agenda show and noagendanation dot com both have buttons you can push to get a donate page but not the donate page. And of course we always appreciate if you go out there and propagate our formula. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up! Yeah so... Is it just-is the show just not exciting enough to people? I guess we're not providing the value to some? It's a third show in a row that has been low.

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

Dutch Charity Etymology and Wine Thief Devices

The hosts explore the Dutch expression "strijkstok," which refers to money intended for charity that "sticks to the bow." They explain its origin in 17th-century markets where sticks were used to level grain. The conversation briefly shifts to "wine thieves," devices used to sample wine through a cork.

strijkstok· netherlands· charity· wine thief· etymology

43:27 But I think it's because this happens every time we're entering a holiday. Oh yeah, i think it's something else... It's the cycle every time we've done that every year same thing around Thanksgiving that's why I'm always advocating not even working or doing a show during this period but The problem is we don't have a flag and this is why We need a flag! Don't have a flag? That's why the donations are down everybody's got a flag Give a flag and then we should send out a pattern so people can make their own no agenda flag. A correction about the Dutch expression on the Strijkstok Blijverhangen, which I promised i would figure out the etymology of it...I said it was the violinist bow while the translation of violinist bow is indeed strijkstock when as it pertains to giving money to charity and a lot of it sticks to the strijkstoek

44:22 It comes from the olden days in the Netherlands when at the market, or I guess at the Costco version of the market in the 17th century they would take a stick to even out anything like grain or anything that has been put into a container so it's level right at the very top. and they had all kinds of tricky sticks where they'd slide it across but then some stuff would like, they turn it and be hollow and flow into the stick. So you'll be grabbing some of your grain even though someone else will be paying for it? Does that make any sense?" Yeah! Makes sense. It's kind of scandalous like those wine thieves they had this

45:09 There's a device, I've seen it. It's like you can stick this in like a needle that goes alongside the cork and it can go down into the bottle of wine. Sucks it out? And suck out some wine so you have a taste Nice Yes there is just a short fill sir Cork still in here Oh man! I have so much... This is just so much email People try and think about what your sending us ya know It's with all these like one of the what's the What's that thing that people always use in the iPad? That that news app. What is it called not having an iPad I have no idea uh, I'm trying to think well You know he just like a book and you flip through it and everything And you know it so yeah that thing I can't take it there. Yeah, what is that called chat room working? Oh yeah, yeah

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Email Etiquette, Flipboard, and the Politico Playbook

The hosts request that listeners provide time codes when sending video links and avoid sending the same stories to both hosts via Flipboard. They critique the blogging practice of "hat tipping" (H/T), specifically citing Mike Allen's Politico Playbook as a primary offender.

flipboard· blogging· hat tip· politico· mike allen

46:00 they'll figure it out. But it's so easy for someone to say, oh I'll just email that to Adam! Oh that's a great story you know hey you should listen this podcast episode 24 and 25 some great clips I'm sure! Hey I know it's a two-hour documentary but man you love it it's great for the show If you're gonna do that, put the specific time code of the specific thing you think was interesting. Yeah So we could if we feel like doing it will open the thing up and then zoom to the time code and listen Also don't email the same flipboard That's what it's called Thank You Charo Right Flipboard Flipboards Thank You a Slick That's not Don't yeah Do not email the same story to both of us

46:46 Yeah, just if it's really good and interesting just send it to me. If you are an insider and want something anonymous send it to me, you can encrypt it but sending it to both of us is useless because then I have nothing like surprise John with Don't listen to him. Send it to both of us and there's something else I wanted bogus There's something else I wanted to mention so and this is just interesting It's okay if you guys do it, so I get a lot of Emails to store links the stories maybe like yeah Maybe it's zero hedge or you know? There's a whole bunch of different websites that

47:24 But when you look at the story, it is a summary of a story and will say read more here. And you click on that... You go to a story which in many cases is also not the original story and then you click on so you have to click like three times to get to the original story! I'm wondering do people ever do this? Do they know that they're reading an abstract rewritten like headline and everything which oh by the way change it's like the game of telephone it changes along the way but that by the time you're back at the original story, the information is sometimes different. I wonder if people take the time to do that? I don't think they do And since when did a link... so I see this all the time So a website copies a story and then at the bottom where they have the link to the original It'll say to wherever the story came from

48:19 What the fuck? Hat tip. You took a story, you rewrote it that someone else did... No you don't rewrite it no you're not you're not a blogger to know this. You don't rewrite it! You lift it! You lift it and now they change the headline whatever at the bottom instead of- You didn't even have to do that Instead here's the original it's like hat tip What is hat tip? Steel. You stole this, the hat tip is not... it's dumb! This is the way blogging works grow up! This is what Politico does. Politico was doing this. Hat Tip. It's a blog what do you think?! No no no this isn't elitist thing

48:57 It's different John. It's a it's a thing that's going on when people Take take a story, and then they write their own right lift lift They lift the story like I can't believe this is going on in the state of Texas damn crap Hat tip Hat tip! I don't see hat tip used that much. That was about two years ago when that was very popular. I think the reason why...I started reading there's a because in the book, you know the in this town there's constant referral to what's the guy's name here is it? The Politico playbook

49:35 The political playbook is a page on Politico which is written by Mike Allen. And apparently everybody in Washington, if you believe what the book says reads this every single day and this is like the Bible of Washington and then if you read this it's always at the bottom here... The guy has got a million hat tips! Which will be H slash TS so we now have a you know it's like Here's a Dan Glickman former motion picture so he slash TS. He sure doesn't mean something like hot transsexual or something No, that's that if there's more than one hat tip It's I guess it H t but if there's more than one then you give each maybe it is a tranny thing I don't know. It's just this hat tip thing stop

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Software Dialogue Boxes and User Negligence

A "pet peeve" segment focuses on users who dismiss computer or smartphone dialogue boxes without reading the error message. The hosts cite examples where users complain about failed downloads while ignoring warnings about cellular data limits.

dialogue box· user interface· software errors· cellular data· download

50:24 And please, and do yourself a favor. Learn how to... You know what? Okay. It's time for one. Then Adam Curry pet peeve here about blogging! No it's not about blogging this is a pet peeve about dialogues and I had a little tiff with my wife about this When your computer or iPhone or something pops up a dialogue box and the headline says, could not post your tweet. And it has something underneath it that explains why don't just click OK go make it go away and then say doesn't work people don't read it'll say right there it says what so here's an example it'll say could not download this podcast

51:18 then oh click just click the kick that dialogue away is not downloading whereas if you read the dialogue it'll say and this is not my wife in particular I've this has happened many times with other people just to under love you honey you know I'm not there's not about you got dumped in trouble now and it says your on cellular data its over 100 megabytes so you have to be on Wi-Fi but people aren't reading this I mean and And maybe it's because developers have made dialogue boxes inherently stupid in the past and we have no credibility. Or maybe, I don't know what it is but the answer is there and so often I find that people are like... I couldn't get it to work uh got an error what was it? I don't know let's close the box! Could be. Sorry? It's a good peeve I like it. It's a huge peeve with me yeah especially if people are just not downloading our show because they're not on wi-fi by the way

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

BitTorrent Sync for Podcasting and Emacs Org Mode

The hosts advocate for BitTorrent Sync as a superior alternative to traditional RSS feeds and iTunes for downloading podcasts. One host mentions learning Emacs "org mode" for personal organization and calendar management.

bittorrent sync· podcasting· emacs· org mode· rss feeds

52:14 BitTorrent Sync is the future. You say this routinely on a cycle every three shows It's important to say it because I want people to transition everything, BitTorrent Sync was made for podcasting it makes now there's the new they came out with an upgraded app and you know I have only I don't have a phone at the iPod touch And you literally just scan the QR code, boom! And it starts downloading. It's fantastic and there is no server in the middle And it's fast, it's fast. Screw iTunes and all this other stuff RSS feeds You just have a folder and I manage the folder I take out the... You're going to have to show me how you use this the way your describing It sounds great Don't you have to have a lot of people? A lot of seeds out there though No they'll work with one obviously but we have The show has so many people seeding that its so fast

53:15 It's downloading it like Brecknake, break next Brecknake. Break Nate! Breck and not speed is really phenomenal There's a on every single show notes you go to 568 dot NA show notes calm at the bottom We one of our producers wrote a beautiful How-to and it's pretty simple. It's like Dropbox if you know You just set it up And you're good to go, but there's no dropbox. No server in the middle now of course There's some tracking server somewhere So it's fallible But we also do bit torrents on an RSS feed It's just so many different options and I want to keep pointing it out that people should take the time because every single show We release Dogcatcher didn't work! Just so ya know Not on dogcatcher! That may be dog catcher's problem

54:11 Dog catcher. Downcast, nope nothing on downcast! It's that same guy? It is. Who is this guy? Do we have a name? Give him a beer He needs one It just makes me laugh. Makes me laugh, makes me laugh! People just read a little... I'm going back in time and now i'm teaching myself Emacs now and I have to say I love it org mode on emacs is pretty- Coming up next Rex by Adam Curry Emac's has been around for like 20 years

54:48 But it has org mode, which is great. It's like a calendar and an outliner... It's a word processor... Point me to it! What? Nothing. It's probably installed on any computer you have That's another benefit Oh yeah I know that's kind of the irony with this stuff It's legacy software that sits on all these machines Yeah but if you know how to use it then its pretty damn handy Like boom emacs, and then I set up my bit torrent sync folder. Boom nice Okay, let's see where we're to go from here because I have a ton of common core which I was thinking maybe saving till later Push that off. I want to get some of this coke cop stuff out of the way good What do we got cop stuff? Oh you mean like the you mean like change? To the gate

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

COP 19 Climate Summit and Youth Activism in Warsaw

Coverage of the UN Climate Change Summit (COP 19) in Warsaw, Poland, features clips from Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now!" The hosts mock the presence of 9-foot lungs in the streets and the speeches given by young climate activists like Marian Asman.

cop 19· warsaw· amy goodman· climate change· marian asman

55:47 Help! Of course the only person covering this is Amy Goodman because she goes to these things so she's in Warsaw living it up on the dime of the contributor. Yeah and So, let me just play a couple of these clips This one here which is like I'm watching this you have to see that visual on this but I'll explain it to you after you Play the clip which is Warsaw 1 lungs in the street Wow, okay.

56:29 The War and Peace Report is what she calls this broadcast of hers. 9-foot lungs that are walked through the streets of Warsaw in protest. Yes, this is Democracy Now! We're broadcasting from the capital of Poland where the UN Climate Change Summit is taking place I'm Amy Goodman That by the way is a lie it's not the UN climate summit The COP is something different

57:09 But that's I'm just being nitpicky since we arrived here in Warsaw 18 people have died on the Italian island of Sardinia and Cyclone Cleopatra at least six people have been killed by tornadoes in Illinois And the people of the Philippines continue to recover from the strongest typhoon to hit landfall in history We turn now to a voice from Africa. Just before we went air Somali youth climate activists activist Marian Asman address the main plenary here at the UN climate talks in Warsaw. Okay stop, stop, stop! First of all... bullshit I left that in just so I know you can get it all worked out. It's bullcrap! It's not the worst typhoon. The previous one there were a couple but the big one in 1970 was blamed on global cooling

57:55 Right, we talked about that in the last show. There's actually some monsters in the 1800s but this is beside the point to this group so she brings this woman on or no she has this woman after the walkout there are still a bunch of these young I would literally call them kids. They're obviously either in their early 20s or late teens and they get somehow, they get registered to talk to the big session which nobody's at half the places already walked out and nobody sits around anyway because they didn't want to give money these kids come up and harangue them as this woman does

58:31 Am I supposed to continue this clip or what am i doing? I'm sorry. You're gonna continue this clip 21 years This year marks 21 years since the conception of the UNF triple-c and for those years, I asked negotiators Just what do you have to show for yourselves? This convention was conceived to cure curb Yeah, yeah. Take that! Well this is just the beginning and I didn't want to clip the whole thing but she just went on and on and on... Wait a minute was this one of these young kids who's been trained?

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Climate Justice, Climate Debt, and Carbon Trading Opposition

Activists at the Warsaw summit, including Patrick Bond, are heard calling for "climate justice" and the repayment of "climate debt" by wealthy nations. The hosts discuss the shift away from carbon trading solutions in favor of direct financial transfers to developing countries.

climate justice· climate debt· carbon trading· patrick bond· cop 17

59:18 Yeah, we've seen this before. Well the other one is from Sri Lanka who was there too and she's the real troublemaker and she's just like the worst I mean she's like this girl that... but i'm noticing a couple of interesting new buzzwords let me see which one here got New buzzword yes yeah new buzz words I think they're both incorporated in the carbon trading by the way this was a I got a couple things with this guy from Patrick Bond on cap and trade. This guy's from South Africa, and apparently a large group of these people have finally talk themselves into dropping the cap and trade idea saying it's bullcrap you have to just cap which is what we've always said if you're sincere about this right? I'm in Durban, South Africa at the Center for Civil Society and two years ago in Durban the COP 17 was a terrible disappointment. And I am here with a lot of activists from the Pan-African Climate Justice Alliance other groups really to see if we can revive the momentum of climate justice which has sort of lost... Climate Justice! ...at that point

1:00:23 And the enemy team, which is the bankers and the bureaucrats are trying to revive their vision. Carbon trading as a core solution it was in the Kyoto Protocol and the question is whether they're going to find any more money and subsidies to bring it back we hope not. What do we want? Climate justice! When do we want it? Now! Another great chance. The creativity is fabulous. What could possibly go wrong, John? To turn over the climate trading to bankers sounds like a fine idea to me!

1:01:21 That's really not working now. Jim Yong Kim, the World Bank president has put that back onto the agenda a few weeks ago I'm quite worried that unless we show more of the opposition and demand for absolute cuts paying climate debt and no messing around with banker type solutions like trading right as the pollution Whoa whoa did i hear climate debt? Oh you caught both of them! oh my goodness The only thing you need to do ladies and gentlemen is save the earth is That's right, just nap for humanity. If you nap you don't put out so much CO2. Less CO2 yeah So climate justice is one of them and they're all talking climate justice including the chant what do we want? Climate Justice! When Do We Want It Now? You got some time? And the other one is climate debt

1:02:10 Climate debt is essentially what we talked about a little bit on the last show, which is... but I-but we didn't have these terms. These buzzwords. Yeah. Buzzterms. But we had climate finance! We had that one. Right. That doesn't have the impact of climate debt because the time it's dead may be the word wording itself makes the assumption that you owe money oh yeah yeah we're gonna have a climate debit card So you, so in other words and we're not talking about anybody just owing money because they bring it up. It's the United States China India Brazil and some other countries were the bad actors And they owe us money Yes

1:02:54 We have a climate debt to them. By us I'm talking about Sri Lanka, some little country in the middle of Africa The Somalia girl was there and she was moaning about everything and how hell's breaking loose in Somalia because of climate change Everything is climate change fault and they owed money Climate debt? we have climate debt to them Yes, we owe them money because what we've done Because we suck So let's play a couple other things. The carbon trading is out clip I don't know if it was the same one we just played No, no it's different one. I played the Patrick Bond Let's try this one It's the mistake I made. Nevermind Pulled! Yep pulled I think there's...I think there's one more yeah the uh Pulled! I think that was all I got that was worth playing Building 7 has pulled

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Free Speech TV Programming and NGO Walkouts

The hosts review new programming on Free Speech TV and report on the walkout of major NGOs, including Greenpeace, Oxfam, and WWF, from the COP 19 negotiations. The walkout is framed as a protest against the lack of progress on climate finance.

free speech tv· greenpeace· oxfam· wwf· cop 19

1:03:43 Yeah, so it just so the whole free speech TV has some new programming though there after the climate thing was It was it was the same as we did last year or a couple years ago when they're in the other place Or Amsterdam whatever it was Same bullcrap, but play. Yeah, play this is the new program free speech TV's making some changes and this is a show we can look forward to it spin presenting positive innovative and solution oriented news from around the world on Today's program we feature the film peacemakers with Jeremy Gilley founder of peace one day interviewing Prem Rawat international ambassador for peace

1:04:25 Then we'll see the Prem Rawat Foundation's Peace for People video entitled, Peace Begins With You. A lot of stuff about peace coming up. Yeah, on Free Speech TV especially with their international ambassador for peace Prem Wawa. I'll be watching that and it's just as if they were completely insane over at free speech TV and I don't even know how much this has anything to do with the free speech oh here's the other cop one is The Cop Report from Democracy Now play this then we're done okay

1:05:02 That is Frederick Chopin. He is a native of Poland, yes we're broadcasting. What's that? You mean Chopin the composer? They play music on free speech TV instead of commercials She's back announcing Chopin? And she back announces...she always wanted to be a DJ apparently So they'll play some dipshit song and she back announces it And I think it's all in hopes that we're going to win. He is a native of Poland. Yes, we're broadcasting from Warsaw I'm Amy Goodman We're here at the UN climate summit known as COP 19 Hundreds of activists have walked out of the talk citing a lack of progress here over the last 10 days groups backing the walk

1:05:57 out include Greenpeace, Oxfam 350.org the International Trade Union Confederation Action Aid International WWF and Friends of the Earth. And the Currie-DeVore consulting group for climate finance The move comes less than 36 hours after a group of 133 developing nations walked out of a key negotiating meeting amidst a conflict over how countries who have historically emitted the most greenhouse gases should be held financially responsible for some of the damage caused by extreme weather We're going to turn right now. Weather is not climate! This is unbelievable, this is unbel... I mean where is everybody? The weather is not climate is not whether it has been told over and over again this has now just changed and this is your news media that you pay for some people pay for they send money the PBS this is crazy Some of the voices of protest

1:06:47 We focus on the promises that were made in Doha and especially the finance because what really brought us to Warsaw is the issue of finance. Can it be fulfilled? We don't want promises, we don't want impact. It's where we have the impact and then people come and just sympathize with us or sympathize with us. We don't want that anymore, we want solidarity." So the biggest development I think of this moment is that some of the largest NGOs in the world WWF Oxfam Greenpeace groups that traditionally have been very engaged in this process are saying we actually need to change tactics we need to begin to take on the fossil fuel industry in a really new way and so the message on the shirt says polluters talk we walk

1:07:27 I think that coming out of these meetings, there's going to be a new type of commitment to really take on the fossil fuel industry. Divestment campaigns standing up two pipelines like Keystone XL were beginning to figure out that to make progress on climate we can't just come to these conference and ask leaders for action We really need to take on the industry itself You know what this guy needs? A flag! I think he's got one In fact is... Is there a climate change flag Yeah, I think so. Let me check...I don't think so climate. I think there is! I do not think there's a climate change flag. Everybody has got a flag but us. There is no- I'm looking and there's no uniform flag. There's no climate change flag. Or that cop thing? I think it was a flag. But yeah, you know what I mean? It's not like a rainbow or transgendered flag. You know if you really want to achieve something you need flags. That is Jamie Henn of 350.org and Cynthia Adams. Oh they've got a flag. 350.org

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Netatmo CO2 Monitoring and the 90 Companies Meme

Using a Netatmo weather station, the hosts observe that indoor CO2 levels often exceed the 350 ppm threshold cited by activists. They also critique a Guardian report claiming only 90 companies are responsible for two-thirds of man-made global warming emissions.

netatmo· co2· 350.org· the guardian· global warming

1:08:22 This is funny, you know Sir Gene our producer here? Yes the guy who's your handler. Yeah my handler He has one of those what it called its called a... Oh hold on a second wait stop So I found a climate change flag which is actually the gay flag with the word climate in the middle of it. Great! It's the rainbow flag with climate I see it So Sergine has one of those netatmo, like those networked weather stations and he sent me the app so I can look at the weather and the conditions in his house. And it measures, this is what's cool, CO2 in the house

1:09:04 Currently now 350.org These are the guys that said we can't have co2 go above 350 parts per million because we're all die Right now I'm looking at Sir Gene's internal co2 measurement 493 parts per million gene get out And I've seen to go up to 700 sometimes What what's the 350 thing all about just bogus number? The domain name was available, I don't know Anyway, the smart money is on global cooling and please pay no attention to the sun flares. And what do we have? We had a star blow up and all this... Pay no attention to anything else but rich nations. I read some other thing that said this has been going around in meme. Let me see if i can find it here These 90 companies are responsible for all the global warming

1:10:09 Wow, I didn't get that one. I think you can google it you'll see it so I think it's 90 companies all the global 89 companies or 91 just now here It is from The Guardian of course this The Guardian a reality who wrote this Suzanne Goldenberg US environmental correspondent Just ninety companies cause oh, but he can have an environmental correspondent in England guess not Just 90 companies caused two-thirds of manmade global warming emissions. I'm sorry, two thirds. This is part of the overall ninety percent meme and all the rest of it where you have these numbers so like a very small number people cause all this problem... A very small number people use their resources, a very small number of people do this and then can target a very small number of companies

1:11:04 essentially it's an extortion racket as far as I can tell. It would be the same thing you did, Jesse Jackson would do which is say we're going to march on your place and there will be all kinds of news coverage if you don't hire some black guys. He says okay well hire some black guys. Well we may march anyway but the real problem that we have here is that you are not contributing to our cause! Oh Oh, okay. Well here's a check... Okay bye! It's all good The climate crisis of the 21st century has been caused largely by just 90 companies which between them produce nearly two-thirds of the greenhouse gas emissions generated since the dawning of the Industrial Age New research suggests

1:11:41 The companies ranged from investor-owned firms household names such as Chevron, Exxon and British Petroleum to state owned and government run firms. The analysis which was welcomed by the former vice president Al Gore as a crucial step forward found that the vast majority of the firms were in the business of producing oil gas or coal which has been published in the Journal of Climatic Change." Wow what is this? So I haven't looked at this, but i will for Thursday. I'm going to download this right now. Tracing anthropogenic carbon dioxide and methane emissions to fossil fuel and cement producers from 1854-2010 There you go! That'll do it In Gitmo Nation the Netherlands lowlands was big news that well You know they had gotta put more windmills in to save the earth

1:12:35 and the government said, you know what? By 2020 we have to have 16% of all of our green energy coming from wind and it will cost 70 billion euros that will have to come from the private sector. Which of course means there'll be tons of great incentives... What do you call it? Subsidies It's gonna- Yeah, it all comes out of the taxpayers pocket Oh yeah, of course Can we close the gate? private sector. Yeah, good luck.

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

FDA Approval of H5N1 Vaccine with Adjuvants

The FDA has approved a GlaxoSmithKline H5N1 bird flu vaccine containing the adjuvant AS03 for the national stockpile. The hosts discuss the history of adjuvants like squalene and link them to cases of narcolepsy in European children following the 2009 swine flu vaccinations.

fda· glaxosmithkline· h5n1· adjuvant· narcolepsy

1:13:29 The US Food and Drug Administration, that would be the FDA said on Friday it has approved a vaccine made by GlaxoSmithKline for an H5N1 bird flu epidemic. The vaccine Pandemrix will be added to the national stockpile and will not be available for commercial use however interesting to note that its... What? It will not be available for commercial use its just being sold directly to the stock pile What? It could be they could be selling them water. They could be, but they're not because this is the first H5N1 vaccine approved to contain an adjuvant! Remember that?!

1:14:13 the hamburger helper weeks and weeks talking about these adjuvants are illegal in the united states is they can't yeah there illegal that's what I can sell to the public as you mentioned yep so they don't want to do anything with these things until they get so what we're gonna see what your suggesting, even though you're not suggesting it but I think you're suggesting it. What we are going to see is a move to legalize adjuvants while the stockpile is being accumulated. The FDA approved the vaccine for use in people over 18 who are at increased risk of exposure to the virus It would be distributed by public health officials if needed Oh man! Come to the schoolhouse

1:14:54 get your free, I mean your mandatory shot? Well it could be there's also the you know they've made this exception. I think there's another thing which is a story i had clipped I think last week or the last show and it was in the backup files um which if you had you could play it but I'll just tell you what it was The FDA allowed and I think this was a precursor to what you're doing here They've allowed an unauthorized experimental vaccine against a certain strain of meningitis to be used on all the students at Princeton. Oh really? With an adjuvant? I don't know whether it has an adjuvant or not, all i know is that its not a legal vaccine but they're saying its okay in this situation because there's an outbreak supposedly five people

1:15:47 Princeton University which is if you're gonna start killing the elites that's the place where you start, that'll get to your attention. And they've rolled out this European vaccine against this very crazy and it's like it's always weird when you have a very specific vaccine against a very weird and unusual and rare strain of the meningitis bacteria well so let me continue on this because there's some interesting things because as you pointed out this news release which is from reuters that is all about the adjuvant according to glaxo some 30 million doses of pandemics were administered across europe 800 people mostly children developed narcolepsy and same story or same today we have sweden

1:16:38 preparing to offer an official apology for the children who suffered narcolepsy following vaccination against the flu from the flu shot, which is this very flu shot. And so now, but now apparently the FDA and GlaxoSmithKline says there's insufficient evidence to prove adjuvant was to blame. Adjuvants have been used in vaccine for diseases such as diphtheria and tetanus for decades Now a new more powerful generation of adjuvants including ASO3 which is squalene

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

CDC Predict the Influenza Season Challenge

The CDC has announced a "Predict the Influenza Season Challenge" with a $75,000 prize for correctly forecasting the start, peak, and end of the flu season. The hosts question the rationale behind the contest, suggesting it is a public relations move to increase vaccine awareness.

cdc· influenza· contest· federal register· flu season

1:17:15 is contained in the vaccine, is being developed and the safety is being tested. I think you're right! This is all about the adjuvants which means two things one it's hamburger helper so that you can sell more or get more for your money. More bang for the buck exactly And we talked about all this before squalene in particular but here what was year was this swine flu bull crap? It was 2009 Yeah, we had covered it to an extreme on this show. We did and now here it is again! Now these guys never let up. Now here's something that I got really excited about in the Federal Register today And of course, it's always bad Chad there in Boulder Colorado who said who was posting all the federal register ditties To the no agenda news network comm site a very exciting John week This is a red book game. We can participate

1:18:09 The federal register, the CDC through the Federal Register has announced the requirements and registration for the... I gotta do some echo. Predict the influenza season challenge! Yes? Ladies and gentlemen registration opens November 23rd closes December 2nd 2003 register by sending an email to flu contest at CDC gov And here's what we need to be eligible for a prize. And by the way, the price $75,000 nice we must be at least 18 years old I think we got that one covered Registered to participate yes, but let's see what do we have to do? We have two

1:18:53 In order to win here the contest for the contest one $75,000 prize will be awarded your tax dollars at work. The winning competitor will be recognized on the CDC influenza web page Okay Here's what you need to do You need to correctly predict the start of the flu season that peak of the flu season and the end of the flu season Can we give it a shot? But there's something else going on here. Obviously this is to, it's probably to promote like some bogus Google thing or Twitter thing... No there's something going on! You're right obviously somethings going on they wouldn't just come up with a stupid contest without some rationale for some reason because people are gonna say why you spending money? Why are even doing this what's the point? So let's think about it. The point is awareness Let's think about it for a second I'm sure we can nail this

1:19:50 I think it's simple. Instead of looking for something complicated, it is awareness to have the contest started and so everyone was thinking about it and then you've got the peak going and selling more vaccines, more flu shots at Costco, more flu shots at Safeway, more flu shots everywhere. And we can always talk about getting a flu shot but maybe if everyone gets flu shots then this season will be shorter Or it would all be part of the contest. I don't know. I'm trying to, because I just looked up 2013 National Influenza Awareness Month. That was August so we already missed that so it's not going to start then. Wouldn't it have to start pretty soon? I would've thought that it started by now! Well no... It usually starts in October. No, it can't even start before December 1st cause the contest doesn't open until December first What a scam

1:20:46 $75,000. Seriously? Just don't you donate that to the no agenda show stupid if everybody who listens to this show put a link in it shows If everybody who listens to this showed just enters the likelihood of one of our listeners winning and then giving us like Yeah sure Yeah, you know. Hey I won! Here's your $222 and... Army suckers. Make it rain bitches! Exactly. Yeah yeah that's how it'll go. Are we doing that? No wait a minute. Okay alright

CHAPTER 22 / 40 Discussion

Bitcoin Foundation and Protocol for Transferring Value

The hosts examine the leadership of the Bitcoin Foundation, including Patrick Merck, Gavin Andresen, and Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox. They discuss the definition of Bitcoin as a protocol for transferring value rather than a traditional currency.

bitcoin foundation· patrick merck· gavin andresen· mark karpeles· protocol

1:21:37 Bitcoin we got to talk about bitcoin. Let's talk about bitcoin. I'm gonna talk about because let's see what the current We didn't get it through yet to get a theme for the Bitcoin segment no one has sent me in Bitcoin say and then we gotta stay on this because I'm now convinced you know so a thousand by the end of the year is obviously going to be hit we already Hit 900, so what is it? Now? I have 841 eight times are 837 oops. We just went down a bit And and I don't have to make it fluctuate a little bit So it looks real There's a lot of things going on that I find very interesting and the main one, and this is something i saw on RT. And I've never seen this woman on RT there's a new woman and she has another you know we're always looking for the perfect... This is the one with the deep Russian accent? Yes! Yeah I've seen her so she's got the right accent but not quite the right look. She looks a little too uh older russian yeah and and and and the accent it's

1:22:34 A lot of it is spot on, but a little too aggressive. Yeah it's too accent-y. Too aggressive so she has on Patrick Merck now Patrick Merck and this caught my eye because he already had caught my eye at the Senate hearing He is the legal advisor on the board of directors of The Bitcoin Foundation I saw this segment That's the funny-looking guy. He's got like a weird hair pattern, he's kind of bald... Eh, he has a beard! He's got a douchebag beard. Yeah, you've gotta beard yeah Have you seen the... have you looked at the Bitcoin Foundation website at all? These guys are... The Bitcoin Foundation guys are showing up everywhere I never heard about them until like a week ago Well it's been around for awhile if you go to bitcoinfoundation.org Here is the board members Gavin and Reason

1:23:30 who is the, let's see... he began his career at Silicon Graphics. He left The Valley as CTO of an early voice-over IP startup which means I failed Company making multiplayer online games most recently the developer of the Bitcoin digital currency project whatever that is Mark Carpaless who is this I like this description mark currently serves a CEO of M Mountain Gox one of the oldest bitcoin businesses in operation today He is the mastermind who created the current trade engine and the multiple currency platform Who puts that in their bio? I'm a mastermind Mastermind we have Mickey Malka the

1:24:13 the sole general partner of Rabbit Capital. Ribbit! A ribbit, sorry so there's the VC in there John Matonis this guy is interesting because he's a press guy a money researcher and crypto economist from George Washington University John advises startups in Bitcoin gaming mobile and prepaid organizations a tech contributor to Forbes magazine editor of The Monetary Future He serves on the editorial board at Bitcoin Magazine And then we have the... This guy was previously the CEO of Hushmail. Remember them? No. Oh yeah, Hushmail was like a private secure email what happened to them well they barely said that NSA came I don't know this story but either the NSA came knocking or their security was crap and it's just you know they couldn't keep it up these are all guys who are building businesses around this and Patrick Merck

1:25:10 Interesting businesses. He was the principal and founder of Engage Legal, and he's basically a PR guy for Engage Legal. We are laser focused on discovering new and innovative ways to provide value and deliver results for our clients we specialize in gamification! And of course Bitcoin is the biggest game on the planet right now bigger I say bitcoin is a bigger game than Grand Theft Auto 5 Virtual economies, specialists in loyalty and rewards and alternative payment systems. So yeah that makes total sense. And he was also... Previously Patrick worked in business and legal affairs at Big Door! bigdoor.com which is also loyalty marketing now the more I look at Bitcoin the more I love what I'm seeing because you know this is not a currency this is a game

1:26:06 Although, I think it was this guy who said something very interesting and maybe it might be in this clip that I have. And I liked what he said that Bitcoin is a protocol for transferring value on the internet And I like that definition by the way. I like it a lot, but still doesn't mean it's a currency uh but I wanted to just play a couple minutes until we're bored of this interview because everything he said everything comes out of his mouth is interesting to listen to as a member of the Bitcoin Foundation which of course is a part of the bitcoin community because without the community

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Bitcoin Market Speculation and GE Stock Comparison

A debate ensues regarding whether Bitcoin is a currency, a commodity, or a "game." The hosts analyze an interview where a Bitcoin Foundation representative compares Bitcoin's price volatility to that of GE stock and discusses the possibility of the asset hitting zero.

bitcoin· speculation· ge stock· bubble· investment

1:26:45 It won't work. Both play a role, speculators help with price discovery and of course consumers use it as currency so I think that's likely to be the trend with Bitcoin as well The difference is that its supply and demand right now and the demand is far outstripping supply And that drives the price up in these parabolic curves Just for my edification John you would agree This kind of supply and demand that he's talking about. It really is not a currency, it's kind of like a penny stock which is really nothing. No ownership or anything behind it. Well its more like a derivative than a penny stock Right! A derivative just being a piece of paper and promise

1:27:31 Right. Yeah, but again I'm going to say it's a game and it's a great game It's a huge game and there's no evidence that is not manipulated because there's no oversight doesn't matter. Who cares? Richard Branson now accepting Bitcoin for his spaceflight which to me is proof that there's never gonna be a space flight You'll be you'll be training for 20 years Oh are on the vomit common again we're training for waste Weightlessness hey Richard man, when are we gonna go up in that thing? Yeah. Yes state stay tuned It's coming just send me a bit coins but eventually will will settle in at a valuation that is fair for For mass consumer adoption I don't this settling in on a price that is fair. I don't think that can happen I'm looking at it as from a gaming perspective now. I don't think this can happen until

1:28:20 All the bitcoins have been mined and we and what 11 or 12 million are done. So there's 9 or 10 million still out there I think this is going to continue past the thousand dollar. I think it's going to go to 2300 is my next mark after a thousand It's just going to keep on going because everybody is in on the game. Everybody sees that if you get in now and continue with the hype, it'll just keep growing and growing and growing when we get to that point. Absolutely but I'm sure you heard Bitcoin skeptics comparing this new currency to a Ponzi scheme or warning of a possible bubble and you know that, like in the case with housing bubble or high-tech bubble. The problem was not in the actual assets that were behind those industries but in the amount of speculation that surrounded it so it seems that the same thing is now happening with Bitcoin A lot of speculators are drawn to it

1:29:17 I love, kind of love the accent but it's a little too much. And it's also you know what do you know what I mean? It's a little harsh should be a little more there's no sexiness in her right she needs that's exactly well from the consulting perspective when we play they mean executives yeah which is like hey she needs to have a softer side needs to be softer and a little more malefluous fact here's how the meeting would go babe can you sex it up a bit for me Maybe, I mean that's... who knows what is really happening. No one can even give you a good answer on why the price of widely held and publicly traded stock like GE goes up and down some days or... Oh hold on a second! Yeah i think i can There are lot of reasons why a widely held stock So first of all it compares Bitcoin to GE stock That's a good bet It's a good bet but it makes no sense

1:30:12 Because the stock in GE, you know there's a perceived value of ownership and There's lots of things that make a stock price go up and down besides PR and marketing There's all kinds of things like dividends or deals that are done, there's all kinds of things. So it's hard to predict why or how the Bitcoin price is moving and what's underlying it whether it's a bubble or not as suggestive that at some point it will eventually hit zero I don't believe that to be true so I wouldn't necessarily call it a bubble in that strict sense. Bubbles don't hit zero when they pop

1:30:50 I don't know why he said that. Why did he say that? When the housing crisis happened, did every house become worth zero? No but i'm going to presume that these guys in The Bitcoin Foundation I'm going to presume that maybe they're not in on the Satoshi Shakamaka Nakanodo thing who created it, but there they are the guys who have the most vested interest in making it work. IE continuing to rise and in value against the dollar so everything they say you gotta take as a promotional activity. Certainly there are going to be price surges and corrections will probably see more of these along the way again as as supply and demand work themselves out is more and more consumers come into the system it's probably going to be a few years while that happens uh... and and that's one of reasons why i caution people this is a very high-risk environment um... and it's really not ready yet for four uh... your average everyday investor to uh... triggered and the investor word us their savings to edit in any way

1:31:51 Anybody who puts money into the system now should expect that they could lose all of it. He is talking like it's an investment, not a currency and this is the Bitcoin Foundation General Council so please take that for what its worth Now what do you think is the fair price over bitcoin unit at the moment? Would you yourself buy it for $900? Sure! I mean if this technology reaches even a fraction of its potential then $900 would likely be a bargain. Especially if it uses... It's a bargain! No, no I think it is a bargain until all the bitcoins are mined this thing has nowhere to go but up over the trending line. Currency in the future? Now its also possible that bitcoin could have an extremely useful purpose if it was valued at 10 cents

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Richard Branson, Bitcoin Mining, and the Beanie Baby Fractal

The hosts compare the current Bitcoin hype to the Beanie Baby craze of the late 1990s, suggesting it follows a four-year "fractal" pattern. They note Richard Branson's acceptance of Bitcoin for Virgin Galactic flights as a sign of peak hype.

richard branson· bitcoin mining· beanie babies· market crash· fractal

1:32:40 just as a payment mechanism. But most likely it's going to be worth a lot more as more and more people use it, as more and more people see it is a legitimate alternative for payments online for international remittances and has a store of value. So here's what's happening John I can say... You might as well invest in Brazilian reals! No I think no I disagree And I'm going to put my bitcoins where my mouth is. Why is Richard Branson getting in on this? Why are all these people jumping in because they understand the game and the game as long as the coins aren't mined, as long as we keep the hype going people will want to get coins because you get the coin and a week later it has increased in value

1:33:30 It's going to go on for a long time. Nothing seems to stop this thing, nothing! So it's a hype and it's a hype of epic proportion. People love it, whoever came up with this was such a genius and we saw $147 million valued transfer of bitcoins I mean all the... It makes so much sense This is the Beanie Babies that I've been looking for Yeah but its gonna go on for at least two more years maybe three The Beanie Baby thing looked that way too but when it collapsed

1:34:06 It was just out of the blue right, but I don't think it can go that far. I don't think I can I would bet in fact Let's put it down. I would bet is less than two years this thing is done You're saying more than two years or what? I'm saying 2 to 3 years and actually it's until all 21 million bitcoins are well actually Would you look that's not right because when all 21 million are in play then you can't make any where it should go up more it might But I think the supply and demand, because then it will actually...I think the beauty is then it'll go in reverse. Then it'll start to split and we'll see derivatives and we'll see micro Satoshis or whatever millibits or whatever you want to call them And I'm thinking I should open up a Bitcoin thing for The Daily Source Code

1:34:57 and I'll publish the address so anyone can check. And, I won't sell any...I won't sell a single one and for the next three years every single time i get a new bitcoin regardless of price whether it's $1 or ten thousand dollars I'll do a new show and I will not sell them until all the bitcoins have been produced right until all them have been mined then I'm getting rid of everything I would be a hundred millionaire. So, I think i'm gonna do it. Well, I would say I would go for it Yeah because no one's going to send you the full bitcoin. The Beanie Baby craze started apparently in 1995 and went through 99 and then crashed along with the dot-com phenomenon so these things are always in parallel so I would have to say five... so that's a four year cycle

1:35:55 In terms of a fractal, it's four years of popularity. And how long has the Bitcoin thing been in play to the extreme? It has maybe a year if you really look at the extreme under a year yeah okay well then you would be right it should go for three years more and become completely crazy if it's going to follow the pattern of Beanie Babies. Because Beanie Babies were around, I mean they really began in earnest in 93 took a couple years before they started catching on then the fad where you had TV stations actually an entire network on The Dish Network that was devoted to buying and selling Beanie Babies

1:36:33 It lasted a couple years and they were selling these things like crazy. And all these, the nut balls that were involved in collecting beanie babies. Four years, the whole thing is four-year fractal and we have this thing maybe... I think at first started hearing about this to this extreme about a year ago so yeah you might be right about three years it could go on for three more years that would So it wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea to buy one for 900 bucks. I'm not gonna, but I haven't bought in...I'm not buying any- No you already got them! Yeah i want people to give them- Or mine one! You could probably mine one in a year and half. I'm not gonna m- Heyyyy! I got one! I got one! I gotta coin! Now I'm gonna do the- How do you know you have one? Ah you use the software to mine it and then ploop all of a sudden its like ohhh! I got me a bitcoin

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

Bitcoin Political Donations and the Assassination Market

The discussion turns to the potential for Bitcoin to be used for legal political donations and its darker applications, such as the "Assassination Market" website. The site reportedly uses crowdfunding to place bounties on public figures like Ben Bernanke and Barack Obama.

fec· political donations· assassination market· ben bernanke· dark web

1:37:28 So here was something that in this interview, although I looked it up and maybe a misunderstanding because of the Russian accent because the Federal Election Commission has not allowed this to happen. She says they have but if this happens then Bitcoin could go to a million. I was surprised to learn earlier that the US Federal Election Commission said that bitcoin could now be legally accepted as political donations and the question I would like to ask you is whether you see any potential for using Bitcoin as a political instrument, for example expanding the US influence around the world in fashion similar to which the US dollar is now being used. Could you imagine if you could accept campaign donation through bitcoin? Can you imagine?!

1:38:18 Yeah, I can imagine the corruption. Exactly! So it's in everybody's interest to say yeah this is a very valid currency and we should be able to take donations with it for elections. We are keeping our standpoint that this is not a currency but as a gain? Wow... This is big It's much bigger than I ever thought. that during the Silk Road period, we'll say that's the moment or that era. The Silk Road era is when it began and is going to go four years That really does take us through the 2017 market crash I like that thinking Which follows... It follows the Beanie Baby prelude to the dot-com crash So we could be spot on

1:39:22 2000s, well what's going on here am I? 2017. Yeah now that's the big one but the cool thing is no matter what happens you know Silk Road or you know Bitcoin stolen all of it it's like this thing's like a warning on the cigarette packs and we have... Here's an Redbook prediction Bitcoin as long as these magazines are still in business the Bitcoin logo on the cover of Time magazine or man-of-the-year Thing of the year nice no it would be Satoshi Nakashimoko as man of the other have a shadow because we don't know a shadowy outline of an Asian fellow and A bitcoin logo yeah, I think you're absolutely right it but but just like

1:40:12 We know that you know, when you say you can get anal leakage You might have suicidal thoughts Smoking these cigarettes will give you lung cancer which looks like this on the package People go out and buy more. They want it more So here is the latest PR for Bitcoin which is just so well done I'm jealous that you and I didn't come up with this John The latest controversial site to surface from the dark web is Assassination Market, a crowdfunding service that lets people anonymously contribute Bitcoin currency towards the assassination of public figures. So far there are six names proposed on the sites with the chairman of the US Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke being the highest priced target with over $70,000 against his name

1:40:57 The list also includes US President Barack Obama and the director of the National Security Agency. When contacted by Click, both the U.S. Secret Service and FBI declined to comment on whether they're investigating the site. So essentially somebody in one of these groups has set up a honeypot? Yeah, of course! It's kind of genius if you think about it... The whole thing is genius. So I'm getting in... So it's a honey pot that finds whatever idiot contributing to this is you know but guess what they deserve as far as I can tell. I'm in, I'm going all-in. What do you mean going all in? You're gonna contribute to Bernanke's being shot? Oh! I'm becoming a full fledged member of the Bitcoin community John

1:41:39 Okay. Yeah, I'm going to be... Do you have a bunch of coins? I do but but i want more more and you don't want to sell them at $1,000 you want to wait until 20 like I would say the January 2016 get out! Even though they'll probably be hotter than ever it looks like they're gonna double again yeah get out now it's at least two twenty three hundred for sure but uh but I'll publish the address so I would say ten grand 10 grand All right, so I'll publish it so everyone can see what what you know What I have and I won't sell. I won't sell anything until until January 2016 and I'll do shows Then you can retire we can close No no no no no no no no I'm taking you all out for Russian hookers and blow in Vegas making it rain bitches how many bitcoins Do you have? I'd rather not say because yeah that's not a good idea on the show I think is like eight Yeah

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

Personal Wealth and Bitcoin Exit Strategy

One host reflects on the burdens of being wealthy and shares a personal Bitcoin exit strategy, targeting a $10,000 valuation or a January 2016 deadline. They recall a previous experiment purchasing contraband on the Silk Road.

wealth· bitcoin· investment strategy· silk road· retirement

1:42:37 Because if you know, if people know how many I have them on come and kill me for it or steal my computers Although a million dollars at the highest did what? I believe would be the highest price of me at ten grand Yeah So that's where I'm gonna work from they got a twenty grand in here. You gotta know I got a couple years I can work for more and then I can retire in the lap of luxury That's presuming someone will give me dollars for my bitcoins at the time. You know, the problem with doing this is hanging on to the bitter end is that you freak your... At some point I would say in 2015 which was just a couple years from now, I'll be freaking out! I would sell half of my stash Let me just explain one thing The most..I was most unhappy in my life when I was rich So I'm not really even wanting to be rich

1:43:25 And I am happy as a rich person very well. No, no mean that but I thought I was happy But in retrospect in hindsight it's you're not happy No It's a hassle so big-ass hassle unless you put your money away and never look at it You know this is what nobody does that they end up managing their body This is what you're always done. This is what you're always doing Well, you know we could we could rent the yacht for a week? It's only two hundred thousand dollars but Well, what else could I do with that money? That's literally what you go through in your head. It's the stupidest conversation! No it's bad...I really did not enjoy it In retrospect, I thought I was great and living it up Well you were living it up Yeah, I spent all my money over a 10 year period Best thing ever did

1:44:15 So I really don't care, so i'm going to put a technical indicator in which you say is what it's 2016 January 1 2016 or $10 000 and that's when I'll sell. And then everybody... It's Vegas! It's not the way it works No, it will work that way because I don't care. I really don't well Maybe if you really have that kind of fortitude But most people know 10 it could go to 20 It could they say it's gonna go to 20. I'm not gonna sell it at ten could go to twenty is twenty sell it Sell it no no no no I'm keeping it cuz they said this can go to 40. I'm gonna keep because it could go to forty Yeah, it's gonna Go to a forty That's the ticket and then the next thing you know it's five bucks, but that's not me cuz I don't care oh

1:44:55 Okay, well if you say so. I mean if you look at remember that little... Remember? Sorry that little experiment that we did with the Silk Road and I bought some contraband Yeah what was it that you bought yeah but it was contraband that you know now is like That was a very expensive $900 bag! But don't think of it that way. I think yeah really enjoyed those drugs You see I just don't care. I really don't So those will be the technical indicators and I'm all in All right, so we'll keep it. We will update the technical indicators as necessary I mean, we need to live off of no agenda donations So we're never gonna do bitcoins for that because that's dangerous Yeah well yeah now you never trip yeah? Yeah, yes No, I think it's dangerous. I don't want to do that we agree Have you changed your tune now? Now absolutely not I'm gonna stick with

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Listener De-Douching and Knighting of Chris Abraham

The hosts process donations from listeners, including Ian Darling, who criticizes NPR's Radiolab. Chris Abraham is introduced for his upcoming knighthood ceremony under the name Sir Chris of Kalea Pohaku.

ian darling· radiolab· chris abraham· knighthood· donations

1:45:50 The old-fashioned way. I'm with you though, the way George Bush would have it don't send us your bitcoins just send us your cash We just need cash i know a lot of people want to send blankets or water or bitcoins. Just send your cash I mean we might as well do it this is going to be a short list anyway because guess what No bitcoins here. Right, so let's start with Ian. Ian, darling 12345 and he is in my town of Port Angeles Washington. This is our limoncello babe's brother I think?

1:46:44 Something like that. Long time douchebag, freeloader boner pirate please de-douche Let me do that right away You've been de-douched This amount is equal to just over a dollar per episode since I started listening I was getting sick of Alex Jones seed commercials and pretentious Radiolab crap Have you ever heard that? Radiolab? No From NPR No. It's kind of like this, so we investigated Bitcoin and we talked to the... This guy! Hello! That's kind how the show goes Anyone who has heard the show will agree with me Okay So I Google searched for the best podcast in the universe And randomly found a show Wait a minute does that work? At first I thought The Morning Zoo Effects and corny ITMBS was all serious

1:47:39 Barely made it through the intro until Adam casually mentioned Whitney Houston you had me at Illuminati sacrifice If you google best podcast in the universe that we do show up as the top I don't see if we do best podcasts just bed best podcast what happens then? Podcast awards Been hooked ever since lots more to say but I guess I'll have to give you more money for that. Thanks a hundred thousand billion for a priceless program Please give a big shout the Dame of the drink Elise sir Bong hits and bourbon Ryan Sasha in PT and Eric the wizard, please play Reverend Manning go-to-hell

1:48:25 Do we have a man in go to hell? I don't know that we do. I know played something like that We have no, I don't think we we have well we have this if you That's all I got Chris Abraham $123 from Arlington Virginia and he will be knighted today He will be knighted it would like to be sir Chris of Cali Kalea Pohaku Okay, Kalea Pohaku. Is that how you pronounce it? I think so Kalea Pohaku It sounds looks Hawaiian Kalea every letter is pronounced was Cala a could be Callie Pohaku Oh man, I'm gonna screw it up okay. Just making something a calla e pooh He's been working on his knighthood since 10 8 11 awesome

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Vanessa the Undresser and the "Due on Stage" Meme

A recurring "make it rain" segment features a jingle for a donor named Vanessa. The hosts discuss a local Austin meme where they are told they are "due on stage" after a musician's lazy behavior.

vanessa the undresser· make it rain· skype· meme· austin

1:49:17 Okay, now we have a $111.11 in addition to the 220-22 for I guess making it rain segment which you're not gonna do too many of these but you got Echo now. Yeah Let me just let go out to Vanessa of course. Hold on a second little mic check This is me. Oh, perfect! Are you ready? Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm content Barney, let's put your hands together for the vixen from Victoria On the main stage here comes Vanessa the Andresa Vanessa likes Vegemite Poodles and guys named Sam Fellows change your name Vanessa Anymore

1:50:05 Was that, didn't we have like another double make it rain? Us. Oh well do us back off a little because I mean there's over modulation and then there's just mic in your butthole okay here we go Where are ya? I wonder what you're doing. Do it again! We didn't hear you! I think Skype has exploded, are you still there? Oh rea- hello hello Yeah okay yeah try it again maybe should get closer It's now forget about it... It didn't work out? No for some reason when I play the music then you know that you cut out huh okay try now all right same one

1:50:53 Go. Ladies and nerds, bumpkins and bonnies put your hands together for the vixen from Victoria on the main stage here she comes Vanessa the undressah! Vanessa by toodles and guys name Sam fellows change your name Vanessa-ah All right all right oh god I have people calling me as we were at um We were at Halcyon yesterday after the market and Jane was married to Mike here in Austin. And usually it's Mike and Jane together, we hook up we have a coffee or something after the market. And Mike was in bed you know musician lazy ass...and he calls Jane says tell Adam he is due on stage! This is becoming a meme

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

New Knights and Bruns Clothing Promotion

Brian Ferguson is knighted following a "69-69" donation. The hosts promote Bruns Clothing, a South Dakota company making American-made jackets, and share a medical alert from Dr. Sharkey regarding high-dose flu vaccines for seniors.

bryan ferguson· bruns clothing· south dakota· knighthood· flu vaccine

1:51:44 All right, thank you. It's fun! And thank you very much Dame Sam Menner. Dame Sam Menner for making it rain for Vanessa the Undresser send us pictures Don Kuehl in Wyndham New Hampshire $100 Joaquim Fornalaz I guess in Zurich Switzerland Sack of sevens Sack of sevens another sack of sevens from James B Mann 7777 in Ringgold Louisiana Mark Milliman, 77-77 from Longmont Colorado. 69! 69 DUDES! Here's the 69ers Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch California Josh Morris in Kearney Missouri Phillip Hartgen in Hamburg Deutschland He needs some house buying karma we'll give it to you at the end

1:52:41 And finally Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington. Yes and Brian Ferguson who came in with our Swazilnaf 69-69 from Foothill Ranch California will also be a knight today so he's completing his knighthood with a swazilnaf! 69! 69 dude! Since we had four we can play the jingle before and after Jared Barton, double nickels on the dime from Albuquerque New Mexico got a birthday coming up of somebody. Steven Nelson in Wheat Ridge Colorado double nickels on the dime anonymous 5502 from Casper Wyoming Bruins Clothing our clothing guys 5150 from Waterton South Dakota now's the time to start promoting bruinsclothing.com B-R-U-N-S these guys make they custom make Made in America by the way made American grandmothers

1:53:30 by old grandmothers in South Dakota. Unbelievably warm jackets for extremely cold weather, this is the kinds of stuff you can wear with a concealed carry pocket yes exactly and all kinds of other stuff you put the no agenda logo on there and they're not expensive No And they're really warm, they're good looking, they're made in America buy American grannies Yeah, they're actually for most people I would say they are too warm. They are sewn on the thighs of virgins. Onward! Baron Sir Dr Sharkey Jackson Tennessee came in with 50 these are all $50 donors and last to the group Anyway he has a little note here Vaccine alert Are you aware that new quote high dose flu vaccine that's being pushed for over 65 crowd is being pushed as more effective than standard flu shots? Well You have to vaccinat 218 seniors to prevent one from getting the flu

1:54:30 Of course it's more expensive. I think he's always the Baron sir, Dr Sharky is always all over the medical stuff for us and hands us all kinds of interesting info we appreciate it Okay first of all they have to play To remind myself what? I'm playing it now unfortunately not coming over What are you doing? Matche I pronounce, i'm putting and playing the pronounced names dot com so i get Matche's name right. Which gives me nothing but grief the Calgary Albertan. Matche Stolowski. Matchee Stolowski. Kyle Bauer Don Greb from Lansdale Pennsylvania David Trotsky

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Thanksgiving Show Plans and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts finalize plans for a Thanksgiving Day episode and perform the official knighting ceremony for Sir Chris Abraham and Sir Brian Ferguson. They remind new knights to be patient when ordering their official No Agenda rings.

thanksgiving· knighting· chris abraham· bryan ferguson· no agenda rings

1:55:26 Romeoville, Illinois and finally Benjamin Smith over here. Hey Benjamin in Oakland California that concludes our donors for show 5, 6 8 and we'd like to get more people on the bandwagon for this next show which will be on Thanksgiving. We actually have to work on Thanksgiving the family day for most people you probably would listen to the show on Friday because everyone's busy on Thanksgiving. Although I think a lot of people will enjoy when their whole families drunk and like trip to fancy cake. Playing the show for the party You know, it's like hey I can I take the dogs out for a walk? And you just jam the buds in and you go for a nice long walk. We'll make sure it's uploaded on time so you can grab it but otherwise Friday is fine. It's a bogative holiday and uh...and I'm gonna be here all alone. Oh! You poor baby! I have invitations but I'm like... Like who invited to do what? Two separate ObamaBot families

1:56:28 Oh, they feel sorry for you? That's pathetic. If I were you, I'd say no." Well they had invited Mickey and I to come over and it was like well, you know, Mickey has... she's working in LA for the most of the week And so she said but Adam's here oh well yeah of course he can come over Yeah, he could be the fifth wheel We don't mind that What am i gonna do though It's like I have to clean up Hi, hi, I'm Adam After the show I have to shave and clean up I don't know. Go to the local deli the day before on Wednesday, grab yourself a tuna sandwich, get it wrapped up in foil and put it in the refrigerator. I'm going to make myself some mac n cheese and take pictures of it! And post them on Instagram...and Pinterest

1:57:22 So we're cooking a seven pound heritage turkey. Seven pounds! This thing's the size of a large pheasant, it's like... It's the size of John Kerry's head Some chickens are bigger than this thing Okay so anyway All right well what we would like even though John says it's cyclical is some more support for the show if you don't mind. But first, let me hand out the karma to everyone who requested it thank you very much for... You've got karma Your courage! Thank you everyone under $50 who do that purposely To remain anonymous and of course thank you so much to all our monthly donors It really means a lot as you can tell we will have a knighting of Bryan Ferguson it does add up eventually you can get there and of course that means you get your lovely night ring now before we do anything else Javorac dot org slash N A And I'll do real quick here

1:58:17 It'll be a real quick one. Jared Barton celebrates on November 28th! Happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show! Now let us do our two nightings... Let me just get everything all set up here, let me grab my sword and can you get yours for second? Yeah here Very good. All right, Chris Abram Brian Ferguson step forward gentlemen Both of you are now going to join the roundtable tonight Chris Abrams I hereby pronounce the sir Chris of Kelli up Hawkeye cuckoo and Bryan Ferguson You now become Sir Brian

1:59:03 Both knights of the Noah's round table, please come on by for your opium and warm orange juice. Your hookers and blow your geishas in a bucket of fried chicken hot pants and booze wenches and beer rupin s women and rosé bong hits of bourbon or just some mutton and mead And go to noahjennination.com slash rings and then please even when you go there and and yeah and you fill everything out You know it might take longer than four weeks. You don't need to go tweeting saying If five shows ago I still... That same guy. Why do you tell that guy keeps showing up? I don't know what to do about him. Alright, wanna talk some Common Core? Yeah, I think so. I think it's important. What I will not do because it makes you just crazy

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Common Core, Grit, and the Department of Education

The hosts analyze a Department of Education document titled "Promoting Grit, Tenacity, and Perseverance." They argue that the frequent use of the word "grit" by President Obama is part of a coordinated effort to shift educational priorities toward non-cognitive "slave training."

common core· grit· arne duncan· department of education· bill gates

1:59:52 Put everybody's examples that I get through email on the show. There's just no time for that But it's a couple of them though Yes well first of all all of them are in the show notes every single one of them and I have what I've uncovered some stuff now That oh, it really just blew me away Okay, let me let me see where should I start? We'll do emails later okay There is something called the... and you have to see the whole video. Some parts are interesting, the Freedom Project is a religious group but they've latched on to the Common Core thing very early on and they uncovered a document which I now have in my possession

2:00:43 which is produced by the Department of Education, and really shows you what the idea is behind the Common Core. And I have taken this document—I've marked it up in multiple places—and I'm going to give John a URL in a minute so that he can take a look at it but I don't want him distracted while we get started. The title Is the it's the critical factors for success in the 21st century. This is done in February of 2013 The US Department of Education this is the Common Core and The idea behind the common core is and when I saw this like things popped into place for me Promoting so common core promoting grit tenacity and perseverance grit tenacity and Perseverance what yes

2:01:39 Now, we'll get into what this means. But this report was developed under the guidance of the U.S Department of Education and of course the authors want to thank my goodness a whole slew of people including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation... it just goes on and on! We'll get to some of the foundations in a moment but this document talks about the key things that our children need and that is these grit tenacity and perseverance. Now is this from the Department of Education during the Arne Duncan era? Yes, this is from February, this year. Okay so it's this year, so it is The Idiot From Chicago, Arne Duncan. In the executive summary I'm not going to read everything but have to do some

2:02:27 The important points so you can understand what we're talking about. How can we best prepare children and adolescents to thrive in the 21st century, an era of achievement gaps that must be closed for the benefit of everyone in society? Rapidly evolving technology demanding and collaborative STEM knowledge work changing workforce needs and economic volatility! Okay they got stem in there I like that yeah well This is basically saying we need a new kind of people, a new kind of worker. Yeah because there's no jobs. Economic volatility equals no jobs. There's a growing movement to explore the potential of the non-cognitive factors attributes dispositions social skills attitudes and intrapersonal resources independent of intellectual ability that high achieving individuals draw upon to accomplish success

2:03:24 If you didn't understand what that meant, it says in this brief we take a close look at a core set of non-cognitive factors. Grit tenacity and perseverance And this is what your children will be taught and when I heard the word grit John...I went holy crap! I have heard this word a thousand times A thousand times I tell you You know who uses this word all the time? Who? The president I take you back to February of this year when this was released, when it-when i first heard it in his State of the Union. Tonight thanks to the grit and determination of the American people there is much progress to report All right uh...I just grabbed some random things from September After a decade in which they'd already been working harder and harder just to get by It was a crisis from which we're still trying to recover

2:04:23 But thanks to the grit and determination of the American people, we're steadily recovering. And I just pulled one from October! Think about it. Globalization and technology means you can go just about anywhere but there are whole lot of reasons you oughta come here We're not just the world's largest market...we're growing Thanks to the grit and resilience of the American people, we've cleared away the rubble from the financial crisis. And over the past three-and-a-half years our businesses have created more than seven and a half million new jobs." But this is very interesting – this use of the word grit

2:05:00 And this is not by coincidence, we know that this guy never does anything coincidentally. This is coordinated and I will show you... Oh yeah definitely! And I think it's interesting he used grit determination, grit determination they changed to the grit and resilience Go back to the document What will it take to shift educational priorities to promote not only content knowledge but also grit tenacity and perseverance? This is an important and exciting time to stop, take stock and prepare to move forward. New and emerging trends in research policy programs and technology are providing unprecedented opportunities." And then it goes on to say persistence is now part of the common core state standards for mathematics The popular media also reports on interest in these factors No the popular media's not doing that

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

Data-Driven Instruction and the Stupski Foundation

A video on "Data-Driven Instruction" (DDI) compares children to cars that need regular maintenance checks. The hosts investigate the foundations funding these initiatives, noting that the Stupski Foundation shuttered shortly after the Common Core rollout.

data-driven instruction· bill gates· stupski foundation· lumina foundation· big data

2:05:50 And then oh by the way John go to grit curry calm do that now before anyone else in the chat room sees it and you can download the marked up Document because now is the time. You'll want to start looking through that as I have a couple clips to share with you The first thing I will share with you is The common core data driven instruction DDI Is what this called so this is a document that shows how? big data drives your kids education. And this is a local, I think this might be Tennessee or Missouri and here's a few educators talking about how great data-driven instruction is and how fabulous it is for these people who used to be called teachers can use this... Grow Microsoft! They even have a Microsoft tune

2:06:46 Data-driven instruction gives our teachers an opportunity to gauge where students are, their strengths and weaknesses. To determine what we need to target for individual students that are missing particular areas in the curriculum An example would be like this is you know we take our vehicles to the shop once a month to get the oil checked. And why do we do that? Because want to make sure our cars keep running, and we don't do it once a year." This is just our children are like our cars! And like our trucks! You gotta take them to the shop once a year have them checked out you know have kicked the tire We wait until the end of the year if something's going wrong with the car and it won't run smoothly. Well, that's very similar to what we do at Data Driven Instruction. Every four and a half weeks we have common assessments And from that data our teachers break the data down with the principal and curriculum team as well. We look at where our students are performing really good at and we celebrate those growths. Celebrate the growths! Celebrating with parents, with students, teachers and make a community aspect

2:07:47 And then we look at the areas that students have what we call hot spots. For example, little Johnny may not be doing so well in math for a particular month he may have some issues with fractions and that data of the 4.5 common assessments we take will pick that up when it picks that up our team immediately goes to work to determine what Johnny did not get We're going to reteach those objectives to Johnny. We're gonna pull him out 20 minutes a day, we're gonna work with him." We take them out! Take them out back and beat the crap outta em'. "...parental support is probably one of the backbones of what makes this work... ...and we make sure that our car's running smoothly if you will..." Back-to-the-car analogy? "...every student is successful and thats your student who scores minimal to your student who scores advanced..

2:08:32 Every student is important. Every student can learn, every student can grow. Data-driven instructions... Alright so this goes on and on and then but the end of the day is we don't want to discourage anyone everybody wins! Yeah everyone's a winner share a secret Can I mention one thing here? Yes Which is interesting if you look at it go to the wiki page and look up GRIT which has a page dedicated essentially uh... The definition of GRIT is perseverance and tenacity. This is essentially the same word repeated three times? Yes, well if you read the document that I just gave you the thing for grit tenacity and perseverance are multifaceted concepts encompassing goals challenges and the ways of managing these

2:09:17 What? So not only this is all coming if you look at the donors to this, the people behind this. Wait wait before we go there because I have also did the donor thing and that's important that we talk about the donors behind this crap Well first i just want to generalize Bill Gates was a lousy student He was impossible in high school he couldn't stay in college he doesn't know shit about education

2:10:11 Well if you look at the other organizations that are in on this, it's the Rakes Foundation. Yeah Jeff Rakes used to be Bill Gates' bitch! He used to run the Gates Foundation and then he first was the guy that should have been the CEO now of Microsoft but Gates took him over to the foundation and had him be the CEO of the Gates Foundation so essentially Bill Knocked on his door and said hey, you're given to this. Okay exactly some work also and then we have the Stupsky foundation That one I'm not familiar with you might be yeah No, well, I have it all in the show notes of course the Lumina Foundation is

2:10:55 So the Stupski Foundation, which is interesting if you go to stupski.org since this report was released which was February you'll see an update from Joyce and Larry Stupski in September 2012 after carefully considering our commitments intentions in life circumstances we decided to wind down the work of The Stupski Foundation So this foundation that financed Common Core has been closed, I might want to mention with a hundred and eleven million dollars in the bank. So they've shuttered with all that money they raised or put it themselves God knows The Moore family is in on this That's Gordon Moore from the Moore's Law so that's all Silicon Valley stuff

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

Effective Sensors and Biometric Student Monitoring

The Department of Education is reportedly exploring the use of "effective sensors," including facial expression cameras and posture-analysis seats, to monitor students. The hosts suggest these tools could be used to identify "wrong attitudes" toward social issues like homosexuality under the guise of anti-bullying.

biometric sensors· facial expression camera· posture analysis· bullying· homosexuality

2:11:44 So back to the uh, The Freedom Project. If you look at this document that I gave you John, thegrit.curry.com and you'll scroll down and you'll see something called Effective sensors that is a part of this effective Sensors, there's actually pictures in the document of what effective sensors are That these children will be hooked up to with their free laptop and or tablet slash iPad here from this presentation video isn't explanation of the effective sensors these are effective sensors that the Department of Education has developed and plans to use. That's what this document is all about, is how do we measure the students effectively? There there is a facial expression camera. There is a posture analysis seat

2:12:38 there is a pressure mouse and there is a wireless skin... Are they becoming Scientologists? You stepped on it but yeah so there's a facial expression camera, a posture seat a pressure mouse and there's even a strap that you put on your wrist so that you can... Yeah, E-meter. Yes, correct now what I liked about this video and remember these are religious guys who put this video together but they're making the drawing the right conclusion This ties into the bullying that we've been tracking for so long. Not only is the bullying to stifle First Amendment freedom of speech, it is also about homosexuality or as I might say heteroflexibility

2:13:28 And it will tie right into bullying. Listen to the conclusion that is drawn here, which I think is correct. It will happen this way and particularly with these effective censors. And under the guise of anti-bullying legislation if the government is teaching a lesson or the government teacher's teaching a lesson about homosexual relationships, homosexual marriage and your kid makes a face? Or your kids slouches in her seat or the pressure on your kid's mouse intensifies, right? Or blood pressure and pulse go skyrocketing. Well then it is fair to reason that your kid has the wrong attitude about homosexuality. Okay stop! Stop! Stop! That is Clip of The Day right there. Well let me... 16 more seconds I'll tell you. Okay play those sixteen seconds out and follow immediately with Clip Of The Day. You got it. That kid is being taught to be a bully

2:14:21 And if your kid learned from you, mom and dad that your faith tells you that homosexuality is wrong then you're the bullies. You're the ones who are abusing that kid These are the kind of things these things will measure Yeah! Wow. Alright, okay you win today's show Oh but wait there is more I'm sure but right there it says enough Here is a... The kid squinted he has got to be taken away from his parents What are we living in Sparta? He flinched about the gay thing

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Estimative Math and Common Core Grammar Propaganda

The hosts critique "estimative math," where getting the right answer is less important than being "fluent" in mathematical concepts. They also review third-grade grammar assignments that use sentences about obeying government officials as examples for possessive nouns.

estimative math· grammar· propaganda· third grade· math fluency

2:15:00 Here is a new meme in here that I had not heard of but it's all part of Common Core. We had a parent talk with us at a recent meeting just last week and the correct answer to one of the common core tests was, uh... i think the problem was as simple as six times seven And the correct way to answer that was to draw 42 circles. I think the child was in third, third or fourth grade. And the child wrote 42 for the answer and got it wrong because at... The lesson was, as the mother told us, that math is you're being too close-minded We want you to be fluent in math In other words we want you to be able to talk about what math is. We want you to be able to explain why math is useful. We are not interested in your being able to do math

2:15:52 It's much less important to get the right answer. The word that she used in terms of the way it was explained to her at school, was estimative math that the purpose of math is to be able to estimate, to be in a ballpark. To be able to have a sense of how math should function." Yeah it's kind of there. Oh my god! That's another clip of the day No I can't accept it because I want these segments to flow and it'll just keep going here now here's a couple of crazy things that have come in from parents and this is becoming a Twitter meme now common core I guess at the hashtag Here's a screenshot of the answer key for questionable homework assignments from Common Core for third grade grammar. And just listen to the questions. So here it is, possessive nouns directions make each sentence less wordy by replacing the underlying words with a possessive noun phrase write the sentence on the line

2:16:55 So I will give you the problem and the answer. And it's not so much about the question, as it is about what the question is saying. So one, The job of a president is not easy. The correct answer should be John? Uh...The job of the President is not easy. Well, It would be that the President's job is hard. Is not easy! That was what it was Wait, wait. That was the original thing that president is not easy right but you did it correctly The job of a president is not under love the job of her president is underlined so is not easy stays to say oh Okay, the people can't be the President's job a president's job a president not a the President's job is not easy the people of a nation do not always agree

2:17:58 And the answer would be a nation's people do not always agree. Yeah, the choices of the president affects everyone. This is very subtle what's going on here. They're basically taking people away from using the passive voice but they're doing it using propagandistic sentences. So instead of just doing it normally, with the boy meets the girl and that sort of thing... If the president does this and if the president does that then the president knows everything! Wait no, he makes sure the laws of the country are fair. That's not what he does I never knew this The commands of government officials must be obeyed by all

2:18:45 The wants of an individual are less important than the well-being of the nation. This is what kids are being taught, third graders! Third graders... Okay now this is astonishing Here's something that it took me 15 minutes to figure out. You know how you used to have these questions like, if John is traveling on the train from Baltimore and Pete... And the train is going 67 miles an hour and Pete is coming in from New York doing 100 miles an hour they will both meet in Florida at what time?

2:19:21 You know, these problems we used to have in school. Yeah it sounds like they'd be easier to answer now with estimative math! Well check this out the assignment is cross out the extra numerical information and solve a gymnastic meet is two hours long It has eight competitors and each competes in four events How many events will be scored? And I had to look at this for like 15 minutes until i figured out that what we used to have to do with like three variables... Yeah, well in this case my guess would be you cross out the length of the array. The two! Right? What is this?! Why even put that in there!? You can cross it out It's dumb! It's completely insane and then we have uh let me see oh then there's a whole bunch stuff on the show notes just tons and tons of bubbles

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Student Surveys and Google Drive Data Collection

A PBI Student Survey from an elementary school asks children invasive questions about weapons, bullying, and drug use via Google Forms. The hosts warn that despite claims of privacy, the data is being collected by Google and school administrations.

student survey· google drive· privacy· bullying· drug use

2:20:14 Let me do a... It's all propaganda brain training. The crossing out the thing has some function so you have spurious information that you get rid of and then you get to the core of whatever it is, and then you obey the government's orders. Something like that? There is something like that going on here is a not what you're told not specifically Common Core but it comes from my big campus and my big campus does surveys that are the parents are not asked if they if if it's okay for their kids to take these service you just take the survey this is from Leo's elementary school I'm not quite sure where Leo's is welcome to Leo's element and its online by the way in Google

2:21:02 Forms document welcome to Leo's elementary PBI student survey. Tell us what you think about our school Please answer these questions to tell us about you and your school answer each question honestly your answers will be kept private No one will be able to tell that your answers came from you Thanks for your help of course you're inputting it on Google from God knows what machine at school And I'm going to scroll down here to what do you do after school or on weekends? Select all that apply. Play outside, play in a sports team dance plan instrument act and plays homework at tutoring after-school program will read during the past 12 months Have you seen another student with a weapon like a gun or knife at this school remember your answer will be private Yeah, I'm sure

2:21:46 I feel safe in my classroom agree disagree. I feel safe in the hallways of my school degree disagree I feel safe when I walk outside of school And there's more things have this year kids done mean things to you this year have kids on the bus Don't mean things to you Have you been bullied this year at school? Have you told a parent or teacher about it yes, no I haven't been bullied have you been bullied this year at school and told an adult did the bullying stop oh Have you been in a fight at school this year which you and the other person hit or touched one another? Have you ever been robbed at the school, have you ever smoked a cigarette even one or two puffs? If you have drank beer alcohol before how many times have you drank in the past 30 days what kind of English is that

2:22:34 If you have drank beer or alcohol before, how many times have you drank in the past 30 days? Is that correct English? I think it is technically. Have you ever taken an illegal drug?! How many days a week do usually eat breakfast? It just goes on and on! Thank you for taking the survey! And it's a Google... powered by Google Drive Yeah where all your information is secret and confidential. This bullshit. Then we have..I have the These are all documents, just go look at them in the show notes. Benchmarking for success ensuring the US students receive a world-class education Five steps toward building globally competitive education systems One upgrade state standards by adopting a common core Well we've passed that

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

Pearson Education and Obama Biography in Schools

A teacher's email highlights the role of Pearson Education in standardized testing and teacher certification. The hosts also discuss a controversial biography of Barack Obama being used in Illinois schools that addresses his past drug use and racial identity.

pearson education· praxis tests· barack obama· biography· homeschooling

2:23:25 Keeps on going action for hold schools and systems accountable through monitoring interventions and support to ensure consistently high performance drawn upon international best practices. This is slave training people this isn't school It's totally slave training and it really, really needs to be stopped. We may be too late this has been going on so long we didn't even know about this! Yeah but the February 2013 things means that that's when they shifted into high gear and that means that we're still within a year of the real push. So I think there's at least we can cause a stir. Well, we're going to have to support the teachers like Luke who sent me an email Adam and you're reporting on Common Core standards has been spot-on throughout my college education now my first year of teaching i felt very irked by common core standards in the systems that are in place in the public education system from teaching in Nevada and then moving to Colorado it seems like the education system is a carbon copy teachers and students are truly being turned into drones

2:24:24 I started to do some research after listening to your commentary about Pearson education. I remembered some fairly expensive tests called Praxis tests that i had to take in college and then another test later on or to get a teaching job, I thought Pearson must have some involvement in this and well well then I found an ETS praxis tutorial website made by Pearson That's praxistutorial.com I also found an interesting PDF, that's the benchmarking PDF that i put in the show notes The publication of the benchmarking test was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Basically teachers and their job securities are held accountable By the scores students receive on these standardized tests The publication boils down to the US having To compete with other countries for best tests scores Well there you go we should just have every country Test score bonanza

2:25:09 Somehow meeting these benchmarks as opposed to save our already doomed economy. Hope this might provide some more insight of the whole Common Core standards abomination Yeah, well thank you very much and yes This is exactly what is going on Well, it's more than that obviously because of the watching your facial movements and all the rest of it. This is I think slave training is exactly what we're talking about here truly truly truly so you got to do how do you man you got 300 million people and You have to manage these people too So they can so they don't tear up the place and and evolve things Of course, you don't want them taking your stuff. This is always the big deal with Don't take my stuff

2:25:51 And Gates has got a lot of stuff. He's got more than the average bear, so he would be more inclined to find these programs important because if anybody doesn't want people taking his stuff it's gotta be Bill So yeah, this is a depressing report. Thank you very much! Fourth graders in Dupont Illinois are reading a biography of Barack Obama that's raising eyebrows among Sinclair County parents the book which supplements the school's common core curriculum blames television for the negative behaviors the first African-American president picked up as a teen quote When Barry looked in the mirror, he saw a young black man. But he didn't know how to be black and no one was there to teach him He decided to act like the black characters he saw on TV! He started acting tough...He cursed Was that what it meant to be black? As he got older, he started smoking and drinking..He tried drugs Was that what it meant to be black?" And then this book goes on to its segue straight into The President

2:26:53 Some people said Americans weren't ready for that much change. Sure, Barack was a nice fellow they said but white voters would never vote for a black president! Other angry voices were raised. Barack's former pastor called the country of failure God would damn the United States for mistreating its black citizens he said This is in the book The white people wouldn't have it It is very very sad that this going on Wow Yeah Very very very sad that this is going on And I would say you need if you have kids, you need to pull them out of school right now. Homeschooling! It's the only way yeah There's this page that I just had... Unless you want this? Some parents might want a little robot kid So I'm really not sure how to continue with our analysis of this and I think we just might as well stop because

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

NCIS Musical Beds and Media Soundscapes

The hosts notice a constant "musical bed" or background track playing during an episode of NCIS. They discuss the history of sound design in television, comparing it to the "MTV Cops" style of Miami Vice and the ambient city noises used in Law & Order.

ncis· musical bed· miami vice· sound design· law & order

2:27:56 It's what it is. You know, you can send me as many stories as you want and it's all more of the same but people have to stop this from happening. Grit is the key word. Definitely depressing. Well that kind of puts a crimp on the show. Oh well... I had a blitz clip thing lined up. Actually- Do you wanna do clickblits? Nahh let's just something else. I was noticing some sub- since we're talking about subtle propagandistic kinds of weirdness As you know, I like sometimes go... You had this music you were playing earlier that would be playing in the back of what we're chatting away and there'd be some music playing. Yeah hold on a second i can get it So why don't we talk while the music plays so it sounds like you know where producing the show? So Adam yes yeah how was your flight back well the flight was almost uneventful except for the lady who started screaming about her husband having heart attack

2:29:00 Did they by the way do an emergency landing? Uh, no but I was prepared for it. You know i was in three emergency landings we had one that weirdest one was I'm flying from China to the United States and somebody had a heart attack And so they landed in Tokyo But you couldn't get off the plane because of passport control AND It was curfew for taking off! So there going have to leave us on the plane overnight sitting on the tarmac True yay But so somehow I don't know how it happened, but somehow somebody paid off somebody and we took off Yeah Anyway that's my story. Yeah, so we got out of there And it was like oh geez that was that was good anyway cuz you can stop the music What am I doing with music? This is kind of like we could probably do the whole show with some sort of music bed Oh yeah, I've never noticed it before but the top show on television which is NCIS mm-hmm has a music bed

2:29:59 bed the whole that is not only weird but until I made this clip which is the weird NCIS clip, I have never heard it before. Oops sorry wait wait and now I have to explain the clip and the only reason I heard the bed was because there's a long silent two silent spots in here and you can hear the bed going Now, the way it is there's an NSA woman she comes in and Abby who is the lab tech says I don't know who's listening in or blah blah blah. And the woman says who could be listening in? Then there's a long pause and Abby writes on a piece of paper NSA and holds it up. Ah okay right! But you get to hear the bed because the NSA doesn't do that and then there's another pause and Abby write BS

2:30:43 And then the clip goes on to his end. But what I want you to listen for is forget the actual bullshit propaganda, but this musical bed... It's not- it's like a kind of music that is.. and I swear I've never heard this before but I think the whole show has got it going on. Talking to me? No! I was talking to myself and a pen. Now I'm not talking anymore because who knows who's listening Who do you think's listening Oh, no. Don't believe everything you hear I mean we don't randomly listen to conversations and phone calls I'm serious We need a court order just like you We've had a few bad apples but...we're good people Out to uphold the law and make a difference So you haven't bugged my phone?

2:31:47 Look, I can prove that I'm here to help. I drew this using DC Examiner's description of our bogus FBI agent fed it into the NSA database and got a hit on a guy named Rudolf Stalin. Rudolf Stalin? Okay... Rudolf Stalin is an American citizen with history of international espionage and strong political ties to Russia And a very nice moustache. I wonder if it's supposed to be ironic? Yeah, i think its covering up the crap acting and probably some other audio anomalies they couldn't figure out Well I think that...I have to go back now because I always erase these things when I make the clip but is the entire...because I've never heard this before and I don't know why and I'm wondering if the entire show doesn't have a musical bed

2:32:39 For some reason, and I'm wondering how many TV shows do. I've never liked this MTV always wanted to do that And I always said no when I'm talking I don't want music under me. I know it's almost don't want distraction There's always the same music. I don't like it at all Well I don't like it now that, once i heard it but when I only heard because of that pause then I started now hearing it. Yeah I agree I think is totally distracting and its like kind of odd cause just a vamp the same thing over and over grinding away there used to be in Law & Order show if people ever watch them or reruns they have a track running underneath that thing

2:33:20 when whenever they're out of the office and they're in the route about and the track consists of a dog barking, woof woof woof and then there's some just random street noise and then there is a siren. And then the dog barks again this is going on very subtly in all of the shots where they're roaming around the city it's really...it's a short thing and they play over and over throughout to show to give atmosphere I think you can probably trace this back to Miami Vice because that's really which the the title, the working title for Miami Vice was MTV Cops and I think that we had John Hammer doing all the soundtrack for that and every moment had this music. I think you can trace it back to that when this started but you know what? i don't watch any of that ever yeah I know you say if its a reality show you'll watch hell yeah! I got a bombshell email here John bombshell bombshell this right here this email

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Healthcare.gov Storage Issues and Lack of Backups

An insider email claims that initial technical failures at Healthcare.gov were caused by a network cable being plugged into the wrong port, effectively DDoSing the system. The source also alleges that the government has no backups for the platform's data.

healthcare.gov· storage controller· ddos· backups· cto

2:34:25 will make listening to the No Agenda show valuable. You want some inside information? I'm waiting for you to read it! Adam, for a variety of reasons if you read this on the show please keep my name quiet although my co-workers will likely know who it is Uh oh... I work for the company that provides the storage back end of healthcare dot gov Well 99% percent of the government actually but thats the big glaring one right now couple things The initial slowdowns. While I don't discount and completely agree with your analysis from the software side, hell...I still don't think it'll work! One of the initial issues was they had a cable plugged into the wrong port Without going into too much detail we have a port that allows for out-of-band control of the storage controller that shares kernel space with the login console

2:35:21 They had plugged a network cable into that port, which spammed it to the brink that it effectively flooded the login console... ...which brought the rest of it to its knees. Essentially they were DDoSing themselves! We've only ever had this problem with one other customer which oddly enough was themselves six months prior This weekend I'm part of the team that has to be on the bridge as they replace the platforms they purchased with higher-end ones. Spare no expense? Nah, we'll spare some! They bought midrange platforms when really they needed big boys. Even sales engineers pointed this out initially. What's funny here is that I asked the account rep about backups should something go horribly wrong. Oh, they said...they don't have backups

2:36:08 I started to laugh as this is absurd but no, they don't and i was told not to bring it up on the call. As it would make them put them in a bad light well not sure could get much worse but what the hell? I guess if people can sign income Monday I'll eat my words about being software But I have my doubts that this is going to be anything more than pissing in the wind Thank you for your courage Wow stunner shocker who knew! But plugging into the wrong port really And no backups? No backups is more, is actually more of the scandal than plugging into the wrong port. You can unplug that and put it someplace where its supposed to be but no backups what kind of methodology... Where's the CTO? Where's and uh.. That guy with a bit with the COBOL in the speak in the machine code Yeah Don Park they won't even let him testify

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

High School USA, ADHD Statistics, and Marijuana Risks

The "Clip Blitz" includes a segment from the show "High School USA" about arming students. The hosts also discuss CDC reports on rising ADHD cases and the American Medical Association's stance on the health risks of marijuana.

high school usa· adhd· cdc· marijuana· ama

2:37:01 They won't even let him testify. Yeah, well I was thinking of a niche or a niche show for none of those guys Those two guys You wanna do uh... A Vikundra Do you want to do a Blitz? Or a... I only have three, I got three hires Hold on hold on hold on 33! Blitz High School USA, our favorite show every Sunday we play a clip. So every teacher's gonna be carrying a gun from now on! And it ensures school safety. I couldn't be more excited! Neat, but what if the teacher loses his or her temper? Way ahead of you buddy Now obviously we can't leave all you students completely defenseless like sitting ducks so... We've decided were all

2:37:57 I'm arming all of you two with guns! This is so cool. I know, right? Guns are the coolest. Whoa-ho-ho! All right! You heard it here first gang The beholders of cool have spoken! When i call your name come on up and pick out your very own gun! I can't put my finger on it but something doesn't seem too cool about this Brad Ugh...I know This is great. I get to participate in the clip blitz by the way was this the new common core that I heard here The American Medical Association held on to its long-standing position that marijuana is a dangerous drug and a public health concern. But doctors also recognized that federal efforts to stop the use of pot have been ineffective It called on the feds and states to come up with public health strategies to cut the use of cannabis, saying programs are better alternatives for helping people quit when compared to giving them jail time

2:38:56 Former Congressman Patrick Kennedy, son of the late Senator Ted Kennedy has now dedicated his life to fighting the legalization of pot. He praised today's decision from the AMA saying it is time people listen to the medical community something he was preaching when he visited Seattle in July to rail against legalization. The message that there is no risk and harm to using marijuana when all the medical evidence and literature, all the scientific research proves otherwise. That's right! Oh crap! Marijuana gonna kill? It's dangerous! Dangerous...dangerous They'd rather give drugs out to people instead of you know that you want to sell more drugs in fact this report

2:39:46 is a part of obviously, a public relations campaign to get more people on drugs ADHD report. Oh crap! I slipped...I knew you were going for it and I slipped. I'm sorry. I'm slipping. Slipped twice. A blitz, we're getting blinded... We're getting blocked! It's another agenda. The number of children with ADHD is rising according to new numbers from the CDC more than one in ten children are now diagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder ADHD cases have been on the increase now for at least 15 years experts think that's because more doctors are looking for ADHD and more parents know about it

2:40:26 it. That's obviously a public relations move, but I realized that there is some public relations thing going on now because they did it with kale. With great success! Yes... I still need more recipes people But now they're apparently doing it for nuts!

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Nut Consumption Study and Show Sign-Off

A major study suggests that eating seven or more servings of nuts per week can reduce the risk of death from cancer and heart disease. The hosts conclude the episode with a reminder of their upcoming Thanksgiving broadcast.

nuts· cancer· heart disease· thanksgiving· sign-off

2:41:02 Well, many consider them the good guys in the snack machine. A new major study says what you've heard about nuts is true They are good for you The study followed thousands of people for three decades It found that those who ate seven or more servings of nuts a week were 20% less likely to die from cancer and heart disease Less likely to die. Eat nuts! Honey, I hear eating my nuts is really good it'll keep you alive but don't worry because we can always make you a previvor and get you some new boobies well i think that should do with John unless you got something else for us in our clip now i mean we do have a long clip which i'm going to save you know ray mcgovern's been floating around on the on the

2:41:43 TV and he's an interesting character, but I but this clip these this clip is so long It has to be for an end of show when we have a short show And I'm gonna just gonna put it aside. Okay, so what will keep it? We'll keep it okay Right Wow So much going on people and I think we're pretty much the only people talking about a lot of this stuff Go ahead and see. No, you think we are the only people talking about almost all of it? Yeah In fact we don't generally... People always say what are you going to talk about this, you're gonna talk about that And I send them notes You see the notes I say This is over covered by the crackpot media already The mainstream The mainstream crackpots Not like the good guys like us Oh man

2:42:27 Well, where to start? We would actually need a 10-hour show just to get through everything I have in the show notes. But it'll all be there for you 568.nashownotes.com will be here on Thursday On Thanksgiving we'll be working to bring you another episode of The Best Podcast In The Universe Please support us at Dvorak.org slash NA And coming to you from the capital of the drone star state FEMA region 6 in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we tell ya to eat your nuts I'm John C. Dvorak, we'll talk to Ken on Thursday right here on NO Agenda!