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00:00 Look at what Audrey's doing. Yeah, she's pulling a train. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, October 10th, 2013. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 555. This is no agenda. Reporting live from FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights hideout, the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm also live, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning!

00:46 The tambourine. Oh, oh this is a new one. You haven't had the tambourine on the show in a while. No I've had it before you've groaned about it. It's really not a true tambourine. It's just a piece of wood. Oh really? I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a little cheap thing. I got a target tarjay for a buck. It sounds pretty good for a fake or a tamper I mean how much trouble is it to make a real tambourine? Why do you have to have a fake tambourine? This is only a dollar I just saw it I say it's a dog to the real tamarine I have to actually go through the process of buying it It wasn't like a POP just an item. I saw as I walked by so my daughter's girlfriend who's a musician rock musician and

01:25 We were facetiming the other day. They live together in in Rotterdam, and we were facetiming and you were what facetiming? Facetiming you don't you don't know what face time missionary position was the deal Face time is what you do on Apple Handheld products your video chatting yes, well it's specifically a facetime Mm-hmm. Yeah, if you want to just plug a product. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, no I'm yeah, yeah big plugger of Apple okay, so we're facetiming and And she's showing me around the apartment, which you know they've done some cleaning up, remodeling. And so her girlfriend has guitars and keyboards and guess what she had, which she can play professionally? Slide whistle. No. Come on. A kazoo. No. An honest to God full-on theremin.

02:21 A real one the big giant one. Yeah, no the giant one with stand and everything though the whole deal like you gotta play something for so she's gonna do a track for us Oh good there, man But I said you know you you need to hook up with John and show him how to do it And you need to get on you need these things are expensive man. Yeah, yeah, well I'm trying to buy an antique one if you if you go for a Is it Moog who made some? Was that Moog who did them originally? Probably Moog would probably make one. But the original one made by Theramin himself or whoever invented the thing back in the 50s or 60s was a really big thing. It was like one of those old radios from the 20s. Those big huge things with a speaker and tubes. Yeah, exactly.

03:09 Yeah, that's the one I want. Let me sound let me uh, it's probably got one in their basement People are since people who are listening are like what the hell are they talking about? Let me see if I can find it. This is look it up. Here's a classic. Here's a classic Dhr min. Here's a classic Theremin sound hold on here we go. This is maybe not the best gesture What's going up? Here we go That's someone who's playing just basically the scales on the theremin. There you go. Ow! Yeah, there you go. It was used for most science fiction movies. Pretty much that's the only thing it's useful for as far as I'm concerned. I have no idea. No, I'm telling you, when they first came out people were playing concert halls with them. Oh really?

04:02 Yeah, so is this kind of in the in the line of the b3 Hammond organ kind of? No because it was you know it limited to that squeaky sound it didn't have a lot of Not a lot of range of stuff. We can you know country and Western anybody. I don't know it seems like it's rather limited. Oh Yeah, it has its moments. Okay, but my little device this little thing. Yeah, so crap I bought from Japan. Mm-hmm the Add a tone Adam tone. Yes, and I'm a tone. I left turned on the batteries drop Oh Circuits I can deal with and here's the joke of it. Here's the real nasty part of it. The battery case is one of those things you have to screw in

04:50 Who designed that? What were they thinking? The Japanese have lost their touch. It is a great day today, John. Not only is it episode 5555555 today, it is 1010 and by presidential proclamation, today is Leif Erikson Day. Leif Erikson? Yes. When's he got to do with the price of gold? Well, more than a millennium ago, Leif Erikson, a son of Iceland and grandson of Norway, That's interesting. Why would you even say something like that? A son of Iceland and grandson of Norway? It's dumb. Yeah, well this is from the White House website. He cast off from Norway's familiar shores and set sail for Greenland. Ericsson and his crew were not aiming to make history, but their ship drifted off course in the North Atlantic and they landed in present-day Canada, making them the first Europeans known to visit North America. And that's why today, by presidential proclamation, we celebrate

05:50 Leaf Ericsson's journey and we honor all Norwegian. In other words, he got lost so we celebrate. Yeah, the first true dude who wouldn't stop and ask for directions. Ayo. Ayo. Also, well today of course being 1010, tomorrow is a very important day. Friday the 11th. This is anyone who's a fan of the second half of the show will know that The New World Order and the Illuminati always like killing people on Friday the 11th, so we'll have to stay Vigilant and see what's happening. They do oh yeah, and would go ahead and look on you just Google it probably Friday the 11th

06:33 The 11th is one of those numbers man. It's like everyone's always getting killed on Friday the 11th. Either that or Friday the I think the 27th is another one of their favorite numbers all about the numbers with these guys. Yeah well that's the reason we are vigilant ourselves about tracking these numbers. That's why we celebrate 555 show number 555 1010 day which is Curiously, we got very few Chinese who chimed in on that one. I know I was looking at the spreadsheet. I'm like, wow, you know, a few people there'd be one Taiwanese dude. A few people were in on it, but like not everybody is like what a spectacular date. This should be beautiful. It is a nice day, though, here in FEMA Region six. We have about to say you have a parade here in FEMA Region nine on on what on 1010. Yeah. In Chinatown. Oh, right. Of course.

07:24 But I think they may have stopped doing it because it's really a Republic of China celebration. It's a day that the dynasties were overturned and then the communists kicked the Republic guys out over to Taiwan where they still celebrate Tiananmen Day. And as far as I know, the PRC does not. So someone will correct me if I'm wrong. While we're on the topic of Asians, Do you remember when we were talking about the first time Dennis Rodman went up to North Korea and we were talking about the Disneyland, ABC connection and everything. What was kind of your prediction as to what Kim Jong-un wants and what his vision is for the future of the country? Well, we've said this before from the get-go when I first saw that first Vice report from North Korea. They want to become a tourist trap. Have you been following the news? No.

08:23 this well yes but not that news oh they some news well North Korea has opened up its first luxury ski resort oh I didn't know they wanted to be a ski resort well and well the snow is due in about two months they had there was a little snafu yeah I'll bet there was the the Swiss company who has the two ski lifts has not delivered him yet It's a great ski resort. We have a small little small little issue. Yeah, you gotta climb to the top. But this it's really it's interesting. There's some pictures in the snowmobile and drag you up.

09:05 But there's pictures in the show notes if you're interested to see it 5 5 5 that any show notes calm I just thought it was it was like, you know, cuz I found this other source for Korean news and there's a lot of interesting stuff they're doing it. There's they have that whole industrial zone there Opened up new business or reopened business with South Korea There's all these things that are actually really positive that are going on. But whenever there's something in the news here It's always oh, you know, they're gonna they're gonna drop a bomb They're creating the bomb. They're gonna shoot a rocket. They're horrible. They're crazy. Yeah, that's the way we do it. I wouldn't mind trying to... Until they sell out to us. Right. I wouldn't mind going to the... Are you kidding? I've been itching to go. It's the Masik, M-A-S-I-K, Masik Pass. The first North Korean... It's not just... It's a luxury ski resort. Well, they don't know, I'm sure, what that really means. See, now why... You don't know. Have you ever been? It may be very luxurious.

10:05 I'm doubting it. You know, so I went to China, I don't know if I've told this story before, but I went to China way before the Hong Kong was, you know, before 97 and was visiting, but they were gearing up to become the Chinese mainland. And this was in the town of Suzhou, which I think at the time only had one factory. Now they have a whole bunch. And the only factory there was from Acer built a factory there. And they had a small amusement park and there was a luxury hotel that we stayed in. And it was, you know, kind of bare bones and it was a hard bed and it was just they needed some work. But you go into the, which someone reminded me of the Vice magazine report on Korea. You go into the breakfast thing because they decide they're going to have the European style

10:53 You know, breakfast or the croissants or the Chinese style. We actually thought of these Asian hotels in the morning. They had this huge spread. You can get anything. It's all kinds of stuff. So they had kind of like in Hawaii, you mean, where they have big breakfast spreads in Hawaii in the morning? I don't know that they do that, but that's true. Yes. Similar. So they had this big spread, but they always had, and they had million people. It must've been 40 people watching over the three people in there eating. And the thing, the kicker was they didn't quite have everything right because the orange juice was heated. Wow, that's interesting. So you had a nice glass of warm orange juice and oh boy, that's refreshing. Was there any, is that like their culture with orange juice? No, they have no connection to orange juice. They didn't know. This is interesting. Somebody took a picture and said, hey man, I got a great idea. Watch this. Hey, hey, Xin Lu Xing, put a candle under that thing, man.

11:54 We should make that standard oh God is horrible. I think if we have our no agenda ski tours to North Korea We'll have you know it's it's a breakfast include No agenda tour to North Korea be fantastic. Can you imagine we could charter a plane? Wait a minute charter a train. Yeah, just thinking that man would be a good idea. Oh That's easy way to get rid of all of us wipe out the show in one go We got the host we got the supporters we got everybody no one go now, maybe not a good idea yeah It's like the Polish government. I got I got I'm really annoyed of course that nothing new maybe but

12:41 This Affordable Care Act healthcare.gov website. I thought we were... Now you made a big stink when I brought this up recently. Well, but I'm going to make a different stink. Okay, make your stink. You and I, well you more than I do, but you know we come out of the technology world. Oh. And I am wondering Why is it that not a single, solitary, big technology reporting outfit, not CNET, not TWIT, not GigaOM, not TechCrunch, none of these people, none of them, none, none, none have done any in-depth analysis of what has gone wrong with this project.

13:29 It's it's Astounding to me that the audiences are accepting this level of crap No, it's hilarious. I mean and and and you know, I've been doing websites or I was doing websites, you know since I put planet Reebok comm online in 1993 94 And, you know, I've heard everything. And of course, we all remember, you know, the one time it actually was valid and worked is we had there was the Victoria's Secret live stream of their. That was a big deal. It was in the late 90s. And it was broadcast dot com, I would like to point out, which was the huge billion dollar scam that Mark Cuban pulled off on Yahoo. That's how he got his money is he sold this bullshit website, basically a domain name.

14:21 And broadcast.com was going to show the Victoria's Secret models and you know it would never nothing ever made it on because oh it was so successful it crashed all the servers and you know it was okay to say that for a little while and in fact my own company did the first URL on the Super Bowl and I'm trying to think which Super Bowl that was I'm going to say maybe 96 We had Oracle as a client and it was for Oracle and I remember quite specifically How unprepared we were at the time but it's 96 Where you know an Oracle barely had ODBC connectors, you know And of course they expected us to use an Oracle back end to get these Submissions or whatever the campaign was for when they flashed the URL and it blew up immediately so we started bringing on any kind of hardware we could including

15:19 I think a Microsoft IIS server with what was that what their SQL server right Microsoft SQL server and I remember there was a huge problem because even that blew up except then the error message said you know error Microsoft SQL server IIS for an Oracle campaign it was like it and we lost I think the business at that point. But to do this in 2013 is just unacceptable and to not have any, I mean I found some really good blogs. Well you know it seems as though the coding, this is, I think I thought you were going to discuss or bring into this. was, if you remember about two or three or four years ago, we would ridicule the government for its... Yeah, the 17 million dollar websites. Yeah, so if they're putting millions of dollars into these websites, then they must have dropped a ton of dough into this thing. Well, the CGI, which is the... so the American arm of CGI Federal, which is a Canadian company, CGI,

16:19 They got I think 97 million dollars but in total if you look across the board at all of the healthcare exchanges everything that is bundled up into this the number is reported to be... They could have had the WordPress guys do it for a few hundred thousand. Or just have Amazon... Amazon could do it in their sleep. Oh yeah, play the healthcare computers clip so people know what we're talking about. Okay, and then I have a couple clips regarding this. The federal government's new health insurance website had to be taken down again overnight, one week after it went live. Glitches have plagued the online enrollment system for uninsured Americans. The Obama administration has declined to release any numbers on how many people have managed to sign up. Okay, so a couple things here. First of all... And by the way, that was I think a key thing. They still will not say it. I don't think 10 people have signed up. They won't admit it. Well, here's the clips. Here's the clips I have and I want to say there's two parts to this website. One is the front end which

17:14 I think the company's called development seed in DC. They they did the front end and and they actually put their The source code on github and had people comment on it that has very little time you get to the home page That's that part works. It's all the back-end stuff that doesn't work. And that was all CGI There's like four or five companies as part of this now I just have a couple clips to show you how ridiculous this is and I'm and again I'm astounded that there's no real calling of course we know that most of these organizations all suck off the Obama administration so for some reason they can't be negative about it or whatever it is it's very annoying because you cannot in 2003 you cannot be playing the web stats game like Jay Carney spokeshole for the White House. On how many people have attempted to access

18:02 the website for the health care? Let me look at my book. See what facts and figures I have. As of now, I still have, in the first 72 hours, healthcare.gov had over 8.6 million unique visitors as you know there were seven times more users on the marketplace website that first morning than have ever been on the medicare dot gov that have ever been on any website ever including victoria's secret we could not have known a site at one time but you still don't know how many people have signed up we like i'm glad you asked that question yeah setup because i want to be clear about it when it comes to enrollment data

18:48 You know, I want to clear this up. Yeah, he's, he's, uh, he can't find his place in the book. We will release data on regular, regular monthly intervals, just like was done in Massachusetts and just like was done and is done when it comes to Medicare Part D. Struggling. What I can confirm right now is that by the way, Medicare Part D, I do want to point this out, was also a huge fiasco when that was rolled out. Do you remember that, John? Medicare Part D and none of the pharmacies could get... Oh yeah, it was also like nothing learned. Medicare Part D, that rollout was, and it's the same systems, it's the same back office big iron stuff, and so we could have known this. People are signing up through federal exchanges, but we're not going to be releasing, you know, this is an aggregation process and we're not going to release data on an aggregate. It's an aggregation process. Write these down, John. This is good for our consulting business. We can. Yeah, just a bunch of bull crap terms. It's an aggregation process. Our daily or weekly blade basis will follow models that have existed in previous programs including

19:48 a similar program in Massachusetts, including Medicare Part D, which is the most recent federal example of this kind of thing, and release enrollment data on regularly monthly intervals. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who of course is, you know, we have to bring out the big guns and we all have to say the same thing. Here's the talking points. One, we didn't expect this amount of traffic. It was totally unexpected. Everyone was so excited. I mean, it couldn't have been... In my wildest dreams, it couldn't be some nut job who has used a botnet

20:26 to have some kind of DDoS with fake names pilot. None of that could happen and no one could ever even question that on any of the technology news sites. Oh, not at all. But also we have to talk about things like hits. and we have to compare it to Apple you know and like iOS 7 you know of course. By the way and if you know and then again I don't have the clip that I have I have it all baby I got it all. What is this constant reference to kayak? That's the present I don't know why he's referencing kayak. No it's not the present I was watching PBS News Hour and one spokeshole came on and she said kayak.

21:09 Yeah, why kayak? I don't know. I don't even think of kayak. I think of Travelocity. I think of hotels. I think of all these, you know, Expedia, duh duh. Kayak? Interesting. I don't know why kayak. Did you do any research or you just like put it down next to you and then forgot about it? And just ditched it. So what research am I going to do? I have to go to Washington DC and dig through the damn files in that basement to find out. See who's invested, yes. to who invested. Yeah, because we can't just get it, you know. And also put it on the internet for God's sake. So this is also an issue about transparency.

21:46 How can the most transparent administration in the universe not force the makers of this to show the code so we can take a look at it? There's a lot of people. We invented the internet. We have Amazon. When Apple does stuff... Okay, anyway, I'm digressing into that. So the comparison continuously of, well, you know, when Apple releases a new... There's a little difference between a whole new operating system and a website, okay, that's supposed to like connect to a mainframe. It's a little different, but okay, we're gonna have to go along with your bullcrap, and here's Wasserman Schultz takes it to a whole new level.

22:33 to be insisting on... Oh, she's already stammering. Listen to it, she's got the best line though. ...being produced day by day for a six month enrollment program that is a little bit unfair. It's unfair! It's unfair to ask for the numbers, John. It's unfair, I tell you. And, you know, the good news that came out of this problem and HHS has acknowledged that there's obviously been some technological problems with the server. The server, okay, the server. But the good news out of that is that... She thinks server is someone with their divorce papers. ...were apparently designed to anticipate about 50,000 people a day going on the website and moving around and it turns out... Moving around on the website. Hold on a second. I'm just moving around on my website here. What?

23:32 Can you play that little last part again, what she said about the 50,000? It doesn't end. There's another 45 seconds of this. No, I know, but play that part again. That part or further back? What she says, 50,000. Go back, back, back, back, back. But the good news out of that is that the servers were apparently designed to anticipate... Apparently. help myself. The servers were apparently designed. About 50,000 people a day going on the website and moving around and it turns out it's been 250,000 a day. She has completely different numbers now. 200. Listen for 600 million dollars you know I can crawl to 250,000 people a day.

24:17 and hand them and sign them up with a piece of paper. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! She doesn't, because you know she's an expert now. She doesn't know of any company that does that. Yeah, Amazon. Amazon I'm sorry I rarely see Amazon pull something back. Rarely. I've never seen it happen. Well can I do a little thing here? I have two more clips. It's about the last clip I don't want to stray too much before I bring this up. She said they anticipated 50,000 people a day. No no the servers the servers were designed

25:09 Well, whether that designer, whether they have something, there's something, I don't know what the uninsured number is, but it's something like 14 million people. Everyone has to be signed up by January 1st, I believe. It's 34 million and I believe there's a, the dead deadline is March 30th, 2014. But okay. Neither here. Okay. Well, then it gives us three that most people that taking it to March 30th, that calculates to 9 million. 50,000 times 180 days right oh how are they supposed to sign all these people up if it's anticipating only 50,000 500 this is this is a new thing that you particularly are doing on the show and I like it a lot it's called multiplication it's called yes it's quite interesting with numbers and government bullcrap from spokes holes yeah it makes no sense

26:03 It makes no sense, but you know maybe they're putting new servers on. And so that's why there's in part why there's a six month enrollment plan. Yeah, six months. So, you know, what the analogy that I've used repeatedly is that the Republicans... What? That's nine million. Yeah. Yeah, so this is all bullcrap. Nobody ever does just a simple math and says how can you even say these things? Well, let's listen to our Treasury Secretary who we haven't heard enough and we haven't, you know, we of course we lost Timmy Geithner. And we now know that he's not to become the new and chief of the fanny know the Fed So he's back and what he'll show up somewhere. I'm going we'll have fun with them eventually in the future These guys never stray too far Timmy's too good. So now we have Lou Jack Lou who is he has the personality kind of a dishrag And and the hair to match and he was on mmm

27:02 I want to say maybe the Fox Sunday show. I'm telling you if you look at a picture of him, I don't know what you think, but as soon as I do, and I don't want to say anything disparaging. But go ahead. He looks like he's got Down syndrome. No. Yes. Look at his official government picture. Just type in Jack Lew to Google and you'll see this little thing on the side, sidebar. I'm taking a look. People with Down syndrome are better looking. Well, I'm just saying he just doesn't... he looks... so I don't want to pick on him. Well, it was an unnecessary thing to say probably. But... Yeah, no, I'm saying if he has Down syndrome. Yeah, no, he doesn't. But here he is... well, God knows what he's thinking though. You have had three years to prepare for this week.

27:51 If I already had doubts, somebody already had doubts about the government's ability to oversee a sixth of the economy, shouldn't this just add to my doubts? You know, Chris, I actually think that is not what's happened this week. What happened this week is we saw 7 million people rush to go onto the web page. Rush! They were rushing! 7 million. It's a question what's how's it the wrong question? It's the wrong question. That's the wrong question. Just shut up you know it isn't Looking right question look and I may have no interest in the fact. I'm not gonna need Obamacare We know how many people have actually signed up we know that people take time to make important decisions like this they go on they compare their options the fact that so many millions of people rush to get information is a very good sign it's they woke I set their alarms and

28:54 It's not a good sign. And I don't believe that for a second. I think I personally believe this thing is being DDoS'd to all hell. They they're so dumb. They don't even know it or someone is not telling somebody I don't believe for a second that the rollout they did I've done rollouts Yeah, what there's a couple other things we had a clip I don't know if we played it was a couple shows ago or one show ago where somebody at CNN had gone to the site actually got through and Found that when they put the drop-down menus had no no selections. Yeah, and how's that guy? What's that's got nothing to do with DDoS? It's um You know it could be no it's a long shot you hit a drop-down menu and you get no choices It says no choices. No that's because it didn't it didn't propagate

29:40 It wasn't propagating, it was a JavaScript thing. It should have been already on the page. It's not like something they have to do extra. Yeah, if the JavaScript didn't load because it was generated dynamically with the... There's a lot of possibilities, but it just seems to me that this website has got more trouble. But it doesn't matter regardless? The reporting is not there. It's so bad that the questions that are coming out of these mainstream spokesholes are better than anything coming out of the so-called technology press. I'm not going to argue the point. I don't see any articles as a matter of fact. Well, I found a whole bunch of blog posts which are really good.

30:20 which are done by people who know what they're talking about. They can point exactly to the, you know, they say part of the problem is it appears that part of this was built with Ruby and Java and that possibly some of the early problems that Twitter had with Ruby of scalability, that that's part of it. They know exactly what Java... There's a lot of stuff that won't scale. Yeah, sure, but they know exactly which Java backend app is not working. There's a lot of really good, and I put all those links in the show notes for you. Yeah, I can get a column out of that. Yes, and as of today, CNN reports that everyone who did get through and signed up for an account received a message that they have to reset their password because of some great upgrade they did. So there's that. And then Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of HUS,

31:14 Health and Human Services was on the Jon Stewart show. Yeah, and but the clip I have is it's in I don't know what she's talking like an insane woman and Jon Stewart is not questioning her. She's insane. What is she saying? You know we're facing the end of the Western civilization by having a market-based strategy What does that mean? We're facing the end of Western civilization by having a market-based strategy. What? And Stuart's like, uh-huh. We are bringing Western civilization to its knees by selling private insurance plans on a website where people pick and choose. So, I... What is the... How can he say yes?

32:04 It's young drugs? I know, I saw this but I wasn't paying much attention to that particular part of it. Well, I did. I think what she's doing is being facetious. No, no, no. Yeah. No. This is the right wing that says that the world's coming to an end and that's what she's she's no no that's why he's agreeing listen to the whole thing I don't think so it's 37 I don't think so you know we're facing the end of the Western civilization by having a market base strategy. We are bringing Western civilization to its knees by selling private insurance plans on a website where people pick and choose. So I understand your point and I understand if we could have perhaps figured out a pathway

32:51 may have been. Okay, do you think that she's being this liberal liberal? Oh, she's talking to a liberal. She's a liberal. They're both making fun of the you know, some Okay, this is her idea of funny. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. She thinks she's hilarious with that line. Wow. It's so funny that I didn't even get it at first. Wow. Well, wouldn't unless they hold you to a spot liberal liberal code. Oh, Anyway, it's kind of this I I'm literally I am interested and so I've tried to sign up a couple times and I tweeted a picture yesterday Because I tried every day just to see if I can get an account and I got through one time but then I got the email to verify and then it must have been 30 seconds and I clicked on the link and it said, oh you waited too long. Like what? I know. You waited too long for your verification click and then yesterday the template broke and so I tweaked this out and I said wow you know and now it's you know day eight or day nine.

33:47 And you know, the tweets you get back, because I'm in Texas, I feel like, well, Texas won't have any option for healthcare, they don't care about people. Wow, man. You know, this is not about- Now who is that you were doing? Let me see who the name of that person was. Hold on. Let me see. Did you block him? You should have blocked him by now. It is Zeneday Zuvall. Keep in mind Texas doesn't want anybody using the new health care option That's not true. Is that true? It's not it's like, you know, no Texas opted out of expanding Medicare. It's not the same as what you're saying, but you you you bring out people are defending

34:40 Oh, hold on a second. Three followers? This is probably some Obama bot thing coming from DC with a name like Zeneday Zuvall. Really? Let's see. He has three followers? Yeah. No, that's a scammer. Yeah. It's typical. Yeah, it's just a propaganda guy. You shouldn't have even responded to him. Anyway, so some really good reporting from people who have entirely different jobs than someone who have worked on some of this stuff. in the show notes. 555.nashownotes.com and you will actually learn a little bit and people speaking on, you know, under anonymity. There's a Reddit where some people are explaining what they've seen and it does seem like the basic problem is, you know, it's typical of government how you get a project and it's subbed out to all these different companies and no one's really in charge at the top. And by the way, it makes me wonder

35:37 You know, we've seen all these Edward Snowden PowerPoints. I don't believe the NSA can get anything done. Why would they be able to do it if we can't get this health care thing together? Really? Well, we're talking about computer problems. Play the clip. NSA computer problems. Yeah, this is a good one. There was word today that power surges have repeatedly damaged a massive new data storage facility for the National Security Agency. The Wall Street Journal reported 10 meltdowns over 13 months destroyed hundreds of thousands of dollars of hardware at the Utah site. Another power problems have delayed the facilities opening. Another fine piece of reporting that none of the mainstream technology companies have bothered to even delve into. Call a guy. I can call a guy to Akamai today and understand what might be happening. This, this sounds a little, hmm.

36:34 I built a data center, famously, in Amsterdam. I was about, oh, ten years too early. Lost about twelve million dollars. That was where really all my money went. And I never had that problem. I don't even understand what the problem is. There's no information given here. Of course, the NSA's not saying anything. And why would they have a meltdown a month? And who's going and where's the source? But where's the source of this? I can't find a source. It's CIA, we know that. Thank you. But that's beside the point. They probably are having some problems. But what kind of, you know, this is the thing that brings me back to the EFF event I went to where, you know, I was told that Obama said we can't hire anyone who knows what they're doing because we can't get security clearances for them. So they got a bunch of boneheads throwing this thing together, this massive project, billions of dollars worth of gear.

37:31 And they can't get the power supplies to work or what's the deal? It's not understandable to me. And of course there is no reporting, you're right. No, there really is no... I'm starting a tech show. Screw it. I'm done. I can do better than this. Adam, I'm tech. Oh yeah. I have your blessing, right? Oh yeah. Knock yourself out. Oh yeah. Done. Hold on. Done. Done. Yeah, so but I really question the government's ability any arm of government. You know, what's the what's the NSA's budget six seven hundred million million dollars more? What's the NSA's budget six six hundred billion? I'm what's their budget? It's billions.

38:13 Yeah, I know that that operation that thing they're building is it wasn't that three billion. Yeah, Utah facility something like no 1.7 or something well, whatever it's a lot of money for a bunch of computers Yeah, but that's not even including their blowing up left and right. I think that's just the the data center Why are they calling meltdown is not a mistake? That's the Wall Street Journal reporting. It's a meltdown because it sounds so nuclear. Oh Yeah, anything that slam the business. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, we do have to make more discussion on this. On? The nuke situation. I've been reading about, you know, we've had, you know, all the aircraft carriers are nuclear powered. Yes. All the submarines and now most of our destroyers and most of the Russian fleet. All nuclear powered, yeah. Yeah, they got these small little, you know,

39:05 Well, power plants. Well, they're not the exact small ones. That's in the newest submarine going out has 40,000 horsepower. Yeah, a 40,000 horsepower generator is in that one horsepower delivers I believe 750 watts. So multiply that by 40,000 you could light up a neighborhood. Yes. With one of these things and keep it going forever. Well this is this you know it was Atomic Rod, Sir Sir Rod, Atomic Rod Adams, who has been a producer and contributor to the show for many years. He was a former nuke he was on I don't think he was a commander I think he was in charge of the nuke stuff.

39:46 In a sub? Yeah, he was on the sub for, I don't know, 17 years or something? That's a horrible duty. No, he said he liked it. Well, some people don't get... I guess you could like it if you have the right personality. Yeah, well, they have orgies on these ships, you know. There was just a big news item about... They had an orgy on a sub? Yeah, there was five... four guys and one girl were thrown in the brig. Because they had an orgy? In the Navy, I wanna go now. Sounds good. Sounds good, people. Yeah, that's a recruiting job right there. We need more waves. Heterosexual orgies, yes. Very, very nice. Very nice. They got caught.

40:47 Think someone I don't know I think it was on there's something I was on video there was some kiss Oh some idiot filmed it on there Ruined it for everybody. Yeah, he wanted to show his buddy. So awesome you douche Look what Audrey's doing. Yeah, she's pulling a train I Haven't actually heard you say that ever 41 30 Audrey and why Audrey? Audrey pulling the train oh That actually hurt my side. Oh man damn very good. Okay. I have a quick little thing here to take care of after I Let everyone in on my my problem of the song stuck in my head. I got a lot of response apparently

41:42 This master of the house song that played again. I like it well actually this was the subject of a Seinfeld episode I did not know Master of the house, doling out the charm, ready with a handshake and an open palm, tells us all she cares about. I remember this. What is that song? Really? It's from Les Miserables. I went to see it last week. I can't get it out of my head. I didn't know I guess I missed that episode. There's a lot of episodes I must have missed but I didn't know that he had actually had that said that that was an episode Yeah, well I vaguely remember so I did receive several messages play the song come on. I have a new version I'm gonna deprogram everybody and make you feel much better Do you know do you know the kind of how the song goes now John? I

42:38 To forrock.org slash N-A, donate enough to be a knight someday. Thank you, Brandon. How good is that? I think that's gonna have to be played over and over before it begins to work, but I think you got something there. To forrock.org slash N-A, donate enough to be a knight someday. Come on, I had it after one play. It's good. Yeah, I think that'll stick in people's heads. While we're on that topic, in the morning to you John C. DeVore. In the morning to you Adam Curry. All ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and to Amos and Knights out there. Yay! And all of our human resources in the chatroom. NoagendaStream.com, NoagendaChat.net. Hey-ho! Thank you for showing up. We had a nice pre-stream this morning, those of you who listened live to the program. And thank you to our artist, hey it was Nick the Rat.

43:31 who came in once again with our artwork for 5.5.4 and we always looking forward to what shows up at noagendaartgenerator.com and of course appreciate everything that our artists do for us. It's a big deal, we understand. It's not easy and well thank you just again from the bottom of our hearts. And this is the show that we had hoped to get a lot of people checking in with the meme of 10-10 and 5-5-5. A couple showed up, which is good. We got one. Yay! Who did the 5-5-5, and that's of course the Grand Duke Steven Pelsmacher from Belgium. I have another one on the list before that. Well, yeah. The big donor was Ryan Bemrose, who came in as an instantite.

44:20 and has a few comments to say. By the way, I also have to read his email, but from this note, on behalf of the ships at sea, feet in the air, folks in the White House, I want to thank you for your courage. No, no, no, read that carefully. I liked what he said there. Hi John and Adam, on behalf of the ships at sea, feet in the air, and folks in the White House, I want to thank you for your courage. I'm just trying to figure out where he's working. I think that he might be He's in Everett, Washington. There's a naval base there. Okay, gotcha. That's the ship's name. That would be my guess if he was involved in anything. It's giving month again at work, so I'm donating to the organization that is doing the most good in the world. Sadly, the company turned down my application for matching funds.

45:05 By my calculation, and he goes on with some numbers, he's barren. The last thing I asked for is to keep doing what you're doing. Noah Jenner seems to be the only sane thing in the world anymore. With the content, NSA stories, and the mainstream news, I'm hitting more people in the mouth than ever before. And I asked him, I said, what's the deal with this? Because he's got other donations, and he sent me a note back. because I didn't know if he was an it because he's already knighted sir Ryan Bemrose but he was never knighted oh I asked him I said what's the what do you want me to do with this with this instant night payment he says actually if you're handing out make goods I would first mention and I was never knighted oh man does he have a ring no probably not so he's so he's a black

45:52 He's a black knight. He's a black sank on sank knight because he did his numbers actually have 55555 and 44444 plus one penny which he throws in for us. So he's yeah right he says he says he's crediting his first instant knight donation to his wife Lisa who was knighted on show 416. So we damed her My second instant night was intended for to be for me show for 452 but I didn't get the ceremony because the spreadsheet recorded that I'd already donated for night.

46:28 It's not a big deal since I've been enjoying the benefits of knighthood all this time I just want to make sure the small hiccup doesn't get in the way of a barony And he has a protectorate that he wants does he not yes Puget Sound excluding the People's Republic of Seattle That's funny I am who would want it the People's Republic of Seattle okay, it's out nice Well, that's sorry. We're all caught up and we'll fix it Aaron and his wife's a dame and we're on this and we're going to tonight him and he can go to know agenda nation comm slash rings and get his ring there and That's right When you are a patron like the Baron the Grand Duke Pels mockers of Belgium you get your own jingle on the show. Oh

47:29 uh... now we have also a uh... executive producer and also for he says uh... reading is no dear show five five five ten ten some excellent and karma for all the nights and a many was a good time to make sure you hand out the car money appropriately dot karma he didn't have a long thing to tell us their now a christopher simian reed your average i a m s saskatchewan has no note i can find but he's a exit was executive producer and Did you find something because I don't have anything in my look real quick while you move on to the next one I'll check I have a feeling also in the UK at another executive producer from Langley Langley UK

48:13 Unfortunately. Samir, we need some Langley money. Samir Bhatt. How about some healthcare.gov money? Damn. In the morning to you John and Adam. In the morning to Jay, to the C, to the D, from a Brit from sunny Bournemouth. Bournemouth. I was a regular viewer of Abby Martin's RT show on YouTube, but my good friend Gareth Hobson, who is a subscriber, got me listening to No Agenda since March. It's been a revelation after your discussions about Abby's show, it became more apparent to me how bad she was at reading the teleprompter and the contrived dramatization. Oh wow. I asked my friend Gareth Gazprom for short why he would think I'd like your show and his response was that he knew I was crackers enough to listen properly. Nice.

48:59 We've tried to hit our friends in the mouth sometimes by the way and hitting people you want to preach to the converted Yeah, yeah, you can't convert the people who are just convert people you can preach the converted But that's like you can drop little things that but they have to pick it up. You see that's how they have to pick it up. Oh We tried to hit all our friends in the mouth but sometimes we just want to punch instead. If we ever started our own UK NA show, we agreed I would be Crackpot and he would be Buzzkill. In our student years we did resort to cooking mac and cheese a few times but at least the ingredients came out of different bags and the sauce was made from scratch.

49:38 I love the mockery of the British accent especially when guys like Farage and Haig are talking nonsense and I would welcome more of it but I'm still learning how to read between the lines of the politicians. I do not think there's a difference between those here and in the US. Yeah, there is a huge difference. Well he doesn't think so. Yeah, in England they talk like this. I'm currently looking for a new job as a research assistant in psychology, so please send some job karma. So let's do that right now. Okay, here we go. Job karma. You've got karma. Finally, Adam, a few episodes ago you mentioned how Breaking Bad has been ruined, ruined as a show, and I'd like to know why. I loved that show from start to the end, but was there something I missed? Yeah, I think, yeah, I'll be simple. Season five, everything was turned around, you know. It wasn't, it was ruined. It was not good.

50:25 The storyline was off. It was all just that is that the season where they had the head on top of the turtle? No, that was the that was the that was great. That was the best show season five was the last season it just did you know just I thought a big shout out to anybody in Burnmouth Bournemouth Bournemouth Bournemouth Bournemouth who is a fellow listener come and find me at the University and then he says yours Samir and probably your first Muslim donor. Nah. I don't think so either. I think we have quite a few Muslim donors actually. Really? Yes. And some of them are in the Middle East. We have a lot of Muslim donors. Oh, that's true. Yes. Allahu Akbar!

51:08 But they're Muslim, they're normal Muslims, they're not nuts. No, but they say I'm Ali Akbar. Yeah, they might. Yeah, of course they do. Everybody would. You just did. Yes. Okay, we go to associate executive producer Richard Harriman, $266.66 from Lisbon, Maine. In the morning, A.N.J., there's a few things I appreciate more than the work you do each week. My beautiful wife, Christy Lake Harriman, is one of those things. Christy's birthday is on 12-10-12, and I wanted to contribute to her Damehood. A happy birthday card would be great too, if you wouldn't mind. She deserves it. Absolutely. Here's a little bit of karma for the Dame. You've got karma and she's on the list of course and associate executive producer just

52:00 $248.94 and this is where his note is. ITM Smokey and the Bandit, this is a donation to offset the Texas Rangers bite out of your budget for going 94 miles an hour westbound and down on Marfa. He gave me the exact number of the ticket. Enjoying the show as much as ever, just got behind a few episodes again and want to catch up the slow way since hence the tardiness of this contribution but as for enjoying a lush mac and cheese with the Duke of Silicon Valley I am but a mere humble slave to the universe track as much as all the rest of you just getting by so no need to have courtiers provide us with extravagant offerings just to buy a weekly dose of the show and some occasional karma will do adios mofo. Stephen I mean Sir Grand Duke we really love you thank you

52:49 Just love sick. I have a man in Belgium who pays my tickets hello I Thought I had floored you for some reason no no John has notes where did these notes go? Daniel Carta yeah, I got a bunch of notes is this a check? shaky green Now, once you're... I don't have... Okay. Why don't I read the note? Hold on a second. Just wait. Why don't I read the note that you have? Sure, John. That's no problem. Daniel Carter. I'm looking. I'm looking. No, I don't have anything. I have no idea where this is coming from. This was mailed in and so there's a note. Okay.

53:39 So and I found it. The check is still here. I gotta put that someplace else. Yeah, yeah, like in the bank. Don't put it in your office. I know, that's what I'm worried about. I have actually received emails from people on occasion. Hey! A check from eight months ago? This is rare. It's rare, but it has happened. It's very rare. I do everything in one spot. Once or twice. But these notes and somehow the check stays with the note and it ends up in the office. It's stuck to the bottom of your shoe. No, I'm not that careless. I used to be when I was a paperboy.

54:17 So I was when I was a paper boy And the guy after the whole I'm collecting and this guy just like a supervisor it has to make sure you do you know and he says to me kid you handle your money like a drunken sailor I Had no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, and would you submit my next donation? It should put me well on my way to getting my knighthood sending a check because it makes you feel like I'm sticking it to Visa and PayPal. You are. I would like to request some karma and de-douching. They're actually going pretty well, things are, but you can never get enough good karma or be de-douched enough. Oh, absolutely. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I'd like to say that the recent content on the best podcast in the universe has been

55:06 Outstanding! I really enjoy the way you guys connect the dots together. I don't always agree with your conclusions, but I find the commentary quite interesting and thought-provoking. If you guys did the nightly news, I might actually start watching it again. Yeah, well that may not be... we're not exactly camera ready anymore. Those days are over. That's, well me in particular. I had a few suggestions. You know, stop. Let me say, that's not true. I watch you on that Twitch show. You're a handsome man. Do you wear makeup? No. Well, you're a handsome man. I used to wear makeup when I was doing the tech TV show and I got some, these guys were saying. Why don't you do that? Why don't you wear some makeup? I mean, don't, just put it on before you go to the, if I was on the show, I'd put makeup on. Nah. What I was doing, actually when Cranky Geese started, I said, you know,

55:55 These cameras stink. They're no good. I don't need makeup. Yeah, but I think if you put it on, you would look really... You're a handsome man, John. I'm gonna say you're a pretty handsome dude. I'm noticing that from the ladies' response. I have a few suggestions. Like that Miriam who's on the show with you? No, I get it. Oh, sorry. I couldn't resist. Yeah. All the country's trying to repatriate the gold along with gold, along with all the missing gold from federal vaults. And we are looking into this and the coming government land grab where they steal our retirement accounts and issue as government retirement accounts, GRAS, G R A S. Not sure what we know about that. I know there's a bunch of land grabs going on. The federal government's been buying up the United States very slowly. You really literally. Yeah.

56:51 Sorry about the typed letter. My handwriting is atrocious. In fact, the NSA has declared my handwriting as a form of encroachment. It's code. It's 256-bit code. Anyway, thanks for all the hard work. I'll keep listening to the best podcast in the universe, Daniel Karda. Yay, thank you. Thank you so much. And we do read especially notes that are... Executive producers and associate executive producers get read. Yeah, and they go through the trouble of writing in. Yeah, of course we do. Yeah, we find that to be interesting. And we have, and who do we have here? The Angry Korean? Where's this? 201? Oh yeah, we have Anonymous from the People's Republic. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm ahead too far. 21009.

57:41 Keep location and name anonymous. You guys are killing it lately. Killing it! Love the sh- You basically write my political science essays for me. I've been getting A's and I haven't given you jack shit. My bad. Some cashier you want to produce a shit for me, I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So this anonymous person from the People's Republic of California has been getting A's In his his or her political science essays because of our content? That's what he claims. Using our our viewpoints? Yeah. Wow. Because it's so unusual and so well done. You know what I mean? Yo, here's some cash for you and a producer ship to me. I can see that working. I don't know who's happier. Just a shot of karma for me please. JCD I'm turning 21 pretty soon. I live in the East Bay. Beer on me. Adios mofos.

58:41 I'm gonna hand out some karma for sure. You've got karma. So you can go and watch the 21 year old puke after his first... His first real beer. First real beer. It's on you, John. Come on, man. It's on me, literally. John D. Soltis, $209.07 says, from Thomaston, Georgia, I've got a note, handwritten note. Ah, nice. Which I'm gonna have trouble reading in this case. It's all printed, but it's still hard to read. Sitting here listening to the pre-stream, the longer I remain a boner, the more I feel like I need to contribute as a donor. A true testament to the value for value model encloses $209.07 shekels. 69.69 times three.

59:29 Due to the confusion over the streak affair equals 1203 est fat lady doth come blah this money is well spent to propagate the formula for the for the general theory of Bogativity I just learned JC has an encoder in his pants please de douche me and call out a and call out Ed Lehman in Gitmo Nation Sparkle, Spartansburg, South Carolina for hitting me in the mouth over a year ago and never donating himself.

1:00:09 Permission granted for shout out he has an arrow pointing at it. He needs to de-douche this guy. You've been de-douched. Thank you for teaching me the secrets of news deconstruction more likely that has saved me hours and hours of therapy. With your suffrage, please impart a getting laid karma and if so inclined to the gate to the gate to the climate gate plus dem trails. Oh damn. To the gate to the gate to the climate gates. Dem trails. Nice.

1:01:01 And I think was there's a karma on there. Well, he had the deducing and the karma and everything. Yeah, we did like a five thing. Okay, okay. Sorry. Who? I'm trying to read. What is that noise on your end or my end? That's my end. What is that? What's going on there? Let me do it again. Yeah, what's that? I gotta put some oil on this thing. Oh, is it your chair or the mic stand? It's the mic stand. I grabbed the mic stand. How old is it? It's an old Sony mic stand from the 60s. Oh really? That's kind of cool. Yeah. Oh, take a picture of it. I'm moving around the bottom thing unscrews and then the whole thing falls off. Take a picture of it. I want to see this 1960s mic stand. That's kind of cool. I'm interested. Since I've never been allowed to see your studio.

1:01:49 Well, one of these days. up angry Korean but my real name is Song John Kim Kim which I'm revealing be everybody's name Kim by the way yeah really because I really need an associate executive director credits for my college application as a communications manager I tanked my SAT so I really need oh you got it you guys started listing a I started listening because of my kick-ass ex-Korean marine SAT tutor who always spits about how Americans think their tax dollars are the only thing keeping the North Koreans from raping our women and pillaging our towns.

1:02:31 Well all Korean men are in his words drafted and dragged through the mud for two bucks a day. Please repeat this on the air so that he'll shut up already. Also please tell him I'm sorry for tanking the SATs. A final note I do take offense on the whole Korean pilot holy fuck thing because that is racist. No one is laughing about this in Korea. Please give me a like a kick to the crotch and a college karma and a D in a D, What is douchebag for my cheap ass? Oh give the douchebag cause it Fast SAT to tutor as far as I know is never donated and keeps doing his laundry at my place No wonder you tanked on the SATs the guy's probably on a tutor all he's like be the bum Hey, yeah, yeah, I'm a tutor for the SATs No agenda show, make it kick to the club

1:03:30 You've got karma nice Guys for 555 I want to thank all of them profusely plus funny notes by the way. Thank you I always appreciate the notes the notes are good when they're funny. Yeah We want to remind people to go to Dvorak org slash na we have a song a new song to promote that and also Donate enough to be a knight someday We have noagendanation.com and noagendashow.com. And also channeldivoric.com slash na if nothing else works. And a reminder, the only piece of our PR mention for today is podcastawards.com. You have until the 15th to nominate us.

1:04:14 Podcast awards I actually get the word someday. Well, we'll never get the award, but it'd be nice to at least be in a category Yeah, we need to be put us in a category Thank you to our producers executive and associate executives always propagating the formula our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Well John this is of course Cybersecurity Awareness Month and we have you know this is October so October it's you know we're waiting for the big meltdown the October surprise we got the shutdown and As if it couldn't get any better Nat Geo Which is how you're supposed to say it right Nat Geo the Nat Geo channel is

1:05:13 On the 27th of October, John. Yeah? Have a fantastic show which we have to watch. I have the trailer right here. American Blackout. It's really dark and we're gonna have to light some candles. Are you doing nothing too? Nobody's doing anything today because there's no power right now. No power. Nothing in here works. There's no AC. Totally doesn't work. What are we supposed to do? We're stuck. We gotta get some water. Wait, turn! When are you coming to pick us up? We're not watching this. Wait for it, wait for it! The current blackout is the result of a cyber attack. Why is nobody helping us? American Blackout, a premiere movie event. Sunday October 27th at 9. Yeah bitches! National Geographic Channel. That's right. On what channel? Lifetime? What? Nat Geo.

1:06:21 Nat Geo, the National Geographic Channel is playing this piece of crap? Because it's reality, baby. It's like real. It could really happen. Did you hear the little news report there? Because of a cyber attack! Yeah, no, that was the punchline. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'd listen once in a while. Amazing. Amazing how they do that. Piece of crap. Yeah. Well, luckily this guy's such a small audience, no one's gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. I love it. I'm not. I refuse to watch this kind of garbage. I got other things to do with my time. I gotta cut my fingernails. You got a show to run. I gotta scratch my back. Many more important things than listening to that piece of... Alright, alright. So I got a couple things. I was very disappointed. Oh. By what?

1:07:13 Well, you know that I've been pushing the Janet Yellen idea. They're gonna put Janet Yellen in to take over Bernanke's job. Yes, yes, yes. A couple of things. The nomination thing was like a 12-minute ceremony. Yes, it was really short. It was like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, done. Well, a couple of things. One, I didn't realize she's a midget. Yeah, I saw that too. Like Bernanke's already a midget and what is she? She's got Oompa Loompa status. She's gotta be like 4'5 or something. 4'2 or something. Wait, is it on the Book of Knowledge? No, let me see Janet Yellen height. Let's see. It would be it would be appropriate We know under five foot. There's no doubt about that. So that's why Obama didn't want to pick her Jeff the tool Especially is he standing on a it looked like he was standing on an extra little pedestal there. It was actually in a hole So then she speaks I go my god this woman is not presentable and

1:08:14 Just listen to her. I mean, she's probably a genius, but I'm just saying it's just like I'm not gonna be happy listening to her give testimony. ...sector and about the risks of a major recession. If confirmed by the Senate, I pledge to do my utmost to keep that trust and meet the great responsibilities that Congress has entrusted to the Federal Reserve to promote maximum employment Oh my god, you know who she sounds like? Let me see if I can find a video of her. Like the... Have you seen Poltergeist?

1:08:55 Yeah, I was years ago. Yeah, and they had that little midget woman who's going who tries to oh that little midget woman run to the light carry and That one doesn't she sound like she looks a little bit too. Yeah, if it's the same Maybe it's her let me see Let me see let me see if this is it go into the light it. What was her name? What was that lady's name? I can't remember anyway. Yeah, I hit this is this Here. Yeah, it's her! It's her! It's her! It's totally her. Yeah, well, she's gonna tell people to go into the light. I think we're doomed. This shutdown has me very concerned.

1:09:51 And I had to get this off of a there's this pretty cool European blog that I've seen What is it called? European public affairs and it's like a it's like a multiple person blog and these are I think I don't know if it's just people who follow the EU or European public affairs dot EU now, they're probably subsidized This is the news and it's not good after the end of a relatively productive negotiating period in the transatlantic trade and investment partnership known as TTIP or as we have been talking about on the show the super foreign trade agreement between the United States and Europe which will save the economies of both continents or at least the I don't know about North America but it'll save America's economy and the EU's economy by allowing us to export our gas super cheap to compete with the Putin stuff

1:10:47 This was last July. Those at the heart of the negotiations have been excitedly preparing for the recommencement of talks set to occur in Brussels this month. A factor many of us had not anticipated was that the disagreement between US lawmakers over the debt ceiling would cause the government of the United States to shut down. As an American in the field of European affairs traveling in DC during the shutdown, it was eerie to say at least. Turns out, On Friday, October 4th, EU Trade Commissioner Karel de Gucht received what was without a doubt an embarrassing call from the US Trade Representative Michael Froman. Negotiations which were set to take place from the 7th to the 11th of October would no longer occur as a result of the US government shutdown. This is bad. What? Yeah. This is bullcrap.

1:11:34 Kerry's roaming all over the place doing deals. Why can't our guy move? While Secretary Kerry will continue being the US presence at the APEC summit in Indonesia, President Obama will now be missing from those proceedings due to complications arising from the playground staring contest, which seems far from over. So what is taking place, the TPP, which is the Trans-Pacific Partnership, that is a go. we're about 90 days away from that falling into place and that's good for us because we'll be exporting export free gas to Japan and other countries in Asia so we do get a Benny from all that but it's sort of the Canadians they're gonna get yeah you got that port that goes to BC and they're gonna pump out a lot of that. I'm okay with that.

1:12:30 There are neighbors. I'm okay with that, but but for the year for the Europe's this is not good So I just got some Putin's got some trouble. I mean he's obviously play the play my Putin clip here This is I think this is a throwback idea, and I think this will be fun to watch A Russian court has ordered a critic of Vladimir Putin to be held indefinitely in a psychiatric institution. Mikhail Kosenko was arrested for taking part in an anti-Putin protest last year. Human rights activists say the judgment is a return to Soviet era abuses. I like it! F Putin! F Putin! Just send him to the nuthouse like they used to do. Stalin used to do. On that I got an email from Brian the Gay Crusader this morning.

1:13:17 You'll remember Brian the gay crusader. Yeah, the one who is challenging you personally for your lies. Well, he he I I deconstructed with multiple translations these so-called anti-gay law in Russia and said this is not at all about Not being able to express homosexuality as it turns out John you have the line they do. Yeah, it's just it's just what a scam and Just a scam? To soak the American entertainment industry. Oh yeah, no, right, it's a scam to soak the American entertainment industry and you know... Right on cue, John, right on cue. I'm right, I'm all over it. Good work. And so I, you know, it's also possible that this guy was nuts and they sent him to the nut house. I mean... I want to read, I want to read something from Brian.

1:14:07 But you want to go back to the nut house because I'd already no no no keep transitioning into okay I'm stunned I'm stunned and shocked at my own inefficiency here. Uh so Brian says Adam I want you to know I'm still working on the white paper because um you know he was going to write up a real a real official thing about this uh debunking we've done he says I feel a little uh like a little bit like the boy who cried white paper but I want you to understand why the anticipated deadline has not yet been met Now, as it turns out, so he said, the Reader's Digest version is, it's absolutely essential every fact and detail of each fact that is included is bulletproof to those who will try to exploit any tiny detail in an effort to try to debunk this entire document. True.

1:14:52 I'm extremely close to achieving this goal, anticipating having the time earlier this week to wrap it up and share it with you. Now just give me some background here. This is not my first time at the rodeo. I've written a plethora of white papers focused on best practices in corporate diversity and inclusion. I've conducted countless broadcast TV radio interviews focused on diversity issues with CEOs of the world's largest public and privately held companies, prominent US government officials both elected and appointed, key leadership and ownership of professional sports leagues and teams, and notable individuals in the world of entertainment and the arts. I've written speeches on the topic for CEOs of some of the world's largest corporations, and I've even written many of the speeches for the Miss America 2004

1:15:36 whose platform was diversity. And yes, I fulfilled every gay boy's dream and got to wear the crown more than once backstage. That's a good one. Anyway, it says, to explain what drives me to take the time to make sure... because he's a professional, he does this for a living. Right, he's no slouch. This is our producer here, you know, and anyway, to explain what makes, uh, what drives me to take the time to make sure everything is, in this white paper, is rock solid, Is that I've seen how those who have spoken in support of the Russian child protection laws are vilified and demonized in the LGBT media and in some cases the mainstream media. While I obviously don't support the laws, I have no interest in putting something out there that has the smallest inaccuracies which can be exploited or paint me as an Uncle Tom of the gays. Anyway, so he's famous.

1:16:32 Okay, yeah a lot of famous listeners. Yeah, but this is really cool. So the white paper is forthcoming and and and if you would like to know more about the The Miss World contest and the crown he's happy to fill you in John Okay, and he could probably Probably get you into one of these one of these I won't be a judge Yeah, right I dream on That's not gonna happen. So you were talking about the government shutdown. Yeah. I got two clips. Oh boy. One thing I have LaGarde who's freaking out. And she's in all, I mean she's not an American official. What? Yeah I know. What happened to her hair? Oh did something happen to it?

1:17:22 Yeah, she's got a Hillary cut. Really? Yeah, she used to have that up-do, whatever it was. Yeah. Kind of that pixie thing, you know, for... Oh! Now she's got a bunch of hair hanging down like Hillary. It looks like it was done by a Parisian, but the problem is her face is a hatchet face and she doesn't really work. Yeah, damn hatchet face. No, it's a hatchet face. She just has kind of like... Yeah, it's not a good look for her. No. No. She does have- it's Hillary hair, you're not kidding. Yeah, she's probably going to the same- She looks like a dude. Don't you think? She looks a bit doody. You think I'm bad? Yeah, I'm sorry. Anyway, so what do we have on this bioche? Well, play the Lagarde clip and you should just see her freaking out, but-

1:18:08 I don't know if it's a clip worth playing actually. Let's start, don't play it. I want to play it! Without that new cash coming in, it risks defaulting on paying back the money it already owes. That would trigger a global financial catastrophe. The head of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, says it is mission critical that this be resolved as soon as possible. The ongoing political uncertainty over the budget over the debt ceiling does not help. The government shutdown is bad enough, but failure to raise the debt ceiling would be far worse and could very seriously damage not only the US economy

1:18:51 but also the entire global economy. President Obama says a debt default would throw the world's largest economy back into a recession which the US Treasury says will be worse than what followed the 2007 crisis. And Obama using rather more direct phrases than the IMF chief said, if we screw up everybody gets screwed up. I mean how many times do we have to watch this? You know at this point You know, of course we know what's gonna happen. You know what my theory is on this? I brought it up on the Horowitz show. Oh, I missed it. Tell me. And the problem is we have to go to Washington DC to prove this theory to be correct. We got people there. But all the staffers on Boehner and all these other douchebags. They're all on holiday. They all got a vacation. Well, they got a vacation. They're going to get paid for it, but that's not what the real deal is. They're trying to get the market down far enough so that the day before this thing is said, oh yeah, we can, we're going to, we're opening the government back to business. These guys will be long with calls. Right. They'll invest in certain companies that they're already watching the ones that have slid a lot.

1:19:52 There's a bunch of companies that have high betas, and so the market just stutters a little bit. Those companies fall like a rock. You know that in advance. Well, I guess it already happened. It says here Stocks or on hopes for deal to avoid us default. That's that's right now on Finance dot yahoo.com. Well, then they were bought they were buying the day before that Yeah, and it'd be calls. That's what you do because you can leverage the most but no there's a the Congress can trade Yes on this stuff and there and why wouldn't you hell? Yeah, I would I Well of course you would because you can do it, it's legal. Yes all you have to do is send your paperwork within 60 days after the fact down to the basement where it's on microfiche and you can copy it onto paper. That's it. So meanwhile the thing that the clip that really got my attention was the one that's the weird government shutdown anecdotes because when I heard this I went

1:20:53 I'm beginning to think, let me, in fact I'll do an Ask Adam on this after you play this clip. is unbelievable.

1:21:30 Alright, okay. First of all you have to have you can't buy a plane. No no you need the FAA to approve you to buy the plane You can buy a plane anytime you want okay, so that's bull crap may not be able to register it. That's possible or if you want to change the registration, but it's kind of irrelevant. Now, the second part of this, I find it extremely hard to believe that a beer maker has to get approval from the government for his formula. I just don't believe it. I'm going to start asking some brew guys about this. So in other words, I'm over here at pyramid brewery making beer. And so I said, well, you know, and what's the difference between you? Cause you have to adjust to conditions and what you have available. You might not get the same type of malts. You might have a different kinds of hops. So I said, let me try something here special for the, for the bar at the place. You have to go through the government. I'm not buying this. If it's true, it's, it's horrible.

1:22:33 This reminds me of a clip that I've been holding on to. I know you hate it when I do this. It's Clip Showdown! Senator Mikulski of Maryland about the shutdown and how it affects the Centers for Disease Control. So general speeches continue on the floor of the Senate. What is the pending business before the Senate? The Senate is in a quorum call. Thank you, Madam President. You know who she is right? She's oh yeah, we're growing weary of the gridlock deadlock gridlock gridlock Hammerlock one flock flock Flint hammerlock This is a card man. This like vote her out vote her out on our government don't we want to reopen CDC and

1:23:22 I could go on to the fact that we could go over diseases after diseases, infections after infections that they won't be monitoring. Let's take a common one, flu. We've all had the sniffles, but the sniffles can also kill people. The sniffles can also kill people. 3,000 Americans die from flu. Vaccines can prevent the flu. We now, CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, are out, were out there making sure there was enough vaccine available that it was being distributed fairly and equitably in the United States. This is what they do. And did you also know that they're disease detectives? Many people don't know that they're disease detectives.

1:24:12 This is an ask John segment. Did you know that there are disease detectives on the government payroll? Yeah, actually I did know but then I didn't know they were called that. They're just researchers. Is it like, excuse me ma'am, time to open up. Adam Curry, disease detective. So what does Senator Barb mean when she says this? Sometimes there's an outbreak. She's Senator Barb, by the way. That's how she referred to herself in the third person there. What does Senator Barb mean? That should be a game show. People are sick, people even die. They wonder what it is. They dial 911 and it's like a disease identification SWAT team. John, did you know there was a disease... You dial 911? And you get a disease identification SWAT team. We should try that right now. Hi.

1:25:06 911 what's your emergency? Oh yeah I need the disease identification SWAT team. Unbelievable. Any more from her? Nine seconds. They go in working with the best and brightest at that state level going to use the best technology and science. I think I just faded her out. yeah disease detectives and the investigative SWAT team it's why is it a state thing is that is like a constitutional thing that we don't just have term limits on these jabronis I guess so huh I guess well you have to make it have to be a constitutional amendment they did that with the president because after Roosevelt right oh really yeah well that recent

1:25:59 Well it was right after Roosevelt, as soon as he got, you know, once he died they said we can't. Well obviously the country had slowly evolved into wanting a monarch or something, I think we still do, I think we've deteriorated in that regard. And so it was thought that maybe we should put a term limit on the president because you get some real popular guy. I mean I think Probably Reagan could have been elected a third term, Clinton for sure. Right, but on these congressmen and senators... Congress persons and senators. Yeah, well the problem is is that you still need a constitutional amendment You could do it on the state level do it on the state level right estate But they won't tend to do it because it goes like well You know you got somebody in there for 25 30 years and now he's the head of a bunch of committees. He's Funneling a bunch of money into this right well so there you go. That's the exact problem that we're dealing with yes corruption Yeah, exactly

1:27:01 Well, people you shouldn't stand for it. Just shouldn't stand for it anymore. But everyone's... they're all so fucking corrupt. It makes... it's... you know and here in Texas now it's like Wendy Davis she's going to run with her pink shoes. She's going to run for governor. Oh, it's gonna be great. It's not going to be great. She's just as corrupt as the rest. Her money comes from big law firms. Come on people. Yeah. And what's with Obama and his... you know you've brought this up before and I started listening for it more and more. And he's, I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or he's actually being dumbed down because he's the president or maybe it's the second Obama and it's the guy that never had good grammar. But read the Libya, or play the Libya raid, you know, they had the Libyan raid. They raid Libya to grab some guy.

1:27:50 care about international law anymore it's probably another violation. Well the prime minister was kidnapped anyway so who cares? The kidnap of the prime minister, he can't say anything he's kidnapped. Yeah yeah there's that. But anyway listen to this guy. The commando raid that seized a top al-qaeda suspect in Libya is still making waves. Libyan jihadists vowed today to kidnap Americans in retaliation for the capture of Abu Anas al-Libi. And the U.S. military said that it is moving some 200 Marines to a base in Italy, just in case. In Washington, President Obama said that the Libya raid and another in Somalia does not mean he is expanding the war on terror.

1:28:34 There's a difference between us going after terrorists who are plotting directly to do damage to the United States and us being involved in wars. But where you've got active plots and active networks, we're going to go after them. Where you got? Yeah, this is where you got is it where you have is the is the right? That's being involved in wars, but where you got active yeah, that's that's lame God active was he trying to be George Bush or something you should have said you gots were you guts that were you guys that would make more sense you guys were you guys like a guy gots that I

1:29:18 Yeah, this guy's a Harvard grad. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's meanwhile what we're talking about this. There's this douchebag of the decade I believe is John hold on a second. I think I think I can give you clip of the day for that one Because I didn't it's so fun. I did not hear it. I did not hear it Yeah, well, I've been listening up on me and I would that was good. That was very good. I And by the way, I was right. You cannot officially register an aircraft at this point in time. You can buy an aircraft. You can buy an aircraft that has a registration and fly it around. You just can't. That's exactly what I said. Just can't change the registration or can't re-register. Whatever. Fine. So it's not a big deal? Yeah, it's just numbers. It's like driving around without your license plate. It happens? Yeah, this is November.

1:30:19 So there's this woman that came on the PBS NewsHour and unfortunately the NewsHour ballist wonders that they are wouldn't really go after her for not answering any questions whatsoever. She's Lisa Monaco and you can look her up and she just looks like a... She hot? No. She looks like a person that couldn't get a date if she wanted to and because she's grim. No, no, no. I'm not going to agree with you. You have to see her on video. It's different. She's more photogenic than she is when you see her actually moving. There's a, her abreurereport.com has a very flattering picture of her. Well, she's not flattering, especially after you listen to her talk. Wow, I love the one with her in the bra.

1:31:03 What? No, it's not her. I'm sorry. It's got a poor name. She has a poor name. Yeah. Bisa Monaco. Yeah. Here comes Raven. Give it up for Raven. John, are you making it rain again? Someone's getting cornhole today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me. John, you actually just did a strip bar announcement, didn't you? Yeah. Do it again. I know guys who do that, John. I've done it when I was 16, I did it in Amsterdam. Do it and I'll play the clip.

1:31:40 Well, no because it doesn't lead into the clip properly. I'll put it again on the... I like to get these things out in an ad-lib fashion. So here she is trying to answer questions about this guy being stolen off the streets in a country we don't really own or control. What does she do? What is her job? Why is she... She is the advisor to the president on counterterrorism and homeland security. Oh, that's got to be a fake name then. Just call me Elisa Monaco. Elisa Monaco. Okay. Ready? You can... Yeah, play it. Now back to the weekend military actions in Libya and Somalia. President Obama is vowing that suspected al-Qaeda leader Abu Anas al-Libi, captured in Libya on Saturday and now being held on a U.S. warship, will be brought to justice. Jeffrey Brown has our Newsmaker interview.

1:32:35 We discussed the raid in Libya and its aftermath with President Obama's chief counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monica. Welcome to you. In his press conference today, the president said, where we've got active plots and active networks, we're going to go after them. Was there an active, imminent threat in the case of al-Libi? Well, I think, Jeff, what you saw here was a demonstration of the incredible professionalism of the men and women of the armed forces in conducting the raid that occurred over the weekend. And Anas al-Libi did pose a threat. to the United States as a senior Al-Qaeda member and somebody who... How is she doing on the Amameter? She's got... I didn't do a rating on her but she gets it up there. Her number's really high on the Amameter. ...is also charged in an indictment for his role as part of the Al-Qaeda worldwide conspiracy. One of the questions that arises in a case like this, is there a clear standard... Wait a minute, does that mean she's a conspiracy theorist?

1:33:35 If it's a worldwide Al Qaeda conspiracy? raid was frankly the unrelenting focus of the United States government to go after and to not forget no matter how long it takes to go after those who would seek to do us harm. So was it more for the past, what he had done in the past that he was indicted for or was it for some kind of imminent threat that he was involved in? Well I think with the case about Libby

1:34:11 He certainly poses a threat and did pose a threat. He's now in the custody of the United States military, but he did pose a threat as a senior member of Al Qaeda, but he also, as has been said and has been demonstrated, is a charged Al Qaeda member. He's being held on the ship. Today you had Libya's prime minister say that He should be tried in Libya. You've had Republicans say he should be sent to Guantanamo. We've seen civil libertarian groups say he should be read as Miranda Rights and treated as a criminal under U.S. criminal law. What exactly is his status? His status right now is that he's being held by the United States military consistent with the laws of war and with the authorization for the use of military force. The laws of war? I'm sorry.

1:34:59 The laws of war. What this raid demonstrated and what this operation demonstrated is our top priority is to go after those who do pose a threat and who do seek to do us harm, but also to always first, if we can, capture and obtain intelligence from those individuals. But do you expect him to be brought to trial in the United States? So I'm not going to get ahead of that process, but what I will say... Alright, alright, she's an a-hole. She's a total a-hole, one of the worst I've ever seen. And the fact that he put up with it, I have another couple of clips if you want to hear some more. She is the biggest a-hole I have ever seen on the NewsHour. I don't know why she wasn't vetted. She does not belong in the public

1:35:51 sphere she should not be a spokesperson for anything she doesn't say anything she seeks to do us harm seeks to do us harm you know we would do compliance with the laws of war laws of war what is she talking about I don't know what I want to get ahead of it she's from Harvard What's her... She's a Harvard douchebag. What's her... What's the deal? There's very little on her. I tried finding... I don't know if she's married. She probably isn't. I don't know if she... Well, she has a... There's a... What... You know, Google's done something weird. So I get her on the... On the Google, it says Lisa Monaco. But then if I want to click, Wikipedia is like really in gray letters. Anyway, let's see what she's done. Born in Boston. Parents to Anthony and Mary Lou.

1:36:40 Raised in Newton, Massachusetts, Windsor School, Harvard, Bachelor of Arts. Has she worked anywhere? Research coordinator for the United States Senate Committee on Judiciary under Joe Biden. Okay. She's one of Biden's kids. Worked on the Violence Against Women Act, Chicago Law School. Oh, she's part of the cabal. Okay. She's editor-in-chief of the University of Chicago Law School Roundtable. No, she's never never had an honor. Oh, I'm sorry, not true. In 1996 entered private practice as a summer associate for the law firm Hogan and Hartson. Intern, essentially. And she took the bar in 1998. No, that's what she does. And she worked for DOJ. Yeah, she's a total government shillorama. Perfect.

1:37:31 But it was, to be honest, I was just like, my skin was crawling listening to her not answer any questions in this kind of robotic cold, you know, just, oh, the professionalism of this and that. She wouldn't know what that even means. But she didn't answer the core questions, like how can we go into someone else's country and just grab people? Yeah, well Obama was asked the question in a press conference and he wouldn't answer it either. No. But she just goes on and on about, you know, laws of war, they're very professional, you know, this kind of thing. I just found her to be the douchebag of the decade. I mean, it's frightening. Douchebag of the decade! Douchebag of the decade.

1:38:13 Are you want to do more from her? I'll play a little more until you can't take it anymore. Is that our first priority is to get intelligence from him and as we've seen in other operations of this kind as with Warsami who you may remember was also captured by our armed forces in a very professional raid there as well. What is a professional way of capturing someone? Do you lasso them? I have no idea what she's talking about. What is a professional way of capturing someone? Very professional. How did that Bin Laden thing go? That was word professional. You shot him in the head or someone and then threw him overboard.

1:38:54 I threw him over a boat on a ship. That was real professional. To get intelligence and then ultimately to prosecute the individual. Well I ask you because there's obviously this question now about whether it's a kind of legal limbo to keep him on a ship in international waters, avoiding Guantanamo on the one hand, avoiding U.S. courts on the other. Is this a set strategy of the U.S. government now? Well I think what it shows is a very clear strategy by the U.S. government. to use all the tools frankly in our toolbox to disrupt threats to go after. Why don't you show me your toolbox and I'll decide if I should use it or not. Now here's the other thing, she says this a lot. Toolbox? The tools? The tools and the toolbox. Tools and the toolbox. This is a process. This is a methodology. This is, there is no tool. Tool and the tool. Why does she say it's a tool? It's not a tool. It's a methodology. It's a process. You gotta say tool.

1:39:46 At two well, it's not a two well. But she keeps saying it, she says it over and over. Listen, back it up and play that again. That's my favorite. Two well in the two well box. That our goal is to get intelligence and then ultimately to prosecute the individual. I think that oh crap is that I went back to first priorities to get intelligence from him and as we've seen worth it in other operations of this kind as with Warsaw me who you may remember I was also captured by our forces in a very professional raid there as well, that our goal is to get intelligence and then ultimately to prosecute the individual. Well I ask you because there's obviously this question now about whether it's a kind of legal limbo to keep him on a ship in international waters, avoiding Guantanamo on the one hand, avoiding U.S. courts on the other. Is this a set strategy of the U.S. government? Come on baby. Well I think what it shows is a very clear strategy by the U.S.

1:40:49 to use all the tools frankly in our toolbox to disrupt threats, to go after consistent with the rule of law individuals who pose a threat to human intelligence and then ultimately to make a decision about what the best disposition is for that individual and to prosecute and hold people accountable. This is crazy and this is on PBS Newsnight and they don't call this woman on anything and just say hey stop for a second you're just full of crap you're just talking you're just talking out of your butthole Cornhole with your tools can't just this is bullshit. No, it's unbelievable. Now. Well, that's it I can't take it. I can take one minute last minute and we can we skip can we skip I know I was I got the another clip if you could take it now I thought you couldn't take it. I don't think I didn't have it in yet. I just I'm weak I don't have the tools matter how long it takes now one of the lingering questions in this case is did the US have the cooperation support Sorry

1:41:49 This is good. And we killed the leader and we took over and then we have all this CIA crap set up. That's cooperation? With the government of Libya, I think what you saw today is Prime Minister Zeydan made a statement that he values the relationship with the United States and that the United States is a supporter.

1:42:24 of the Libyan people as we are and we will continue to be so to help them build their capacity to address security challenges. I'm not sure how to read that though. Before the raid was there the okay or the support from the Libyans? Jeff, I think I'm not going to get into our consultations that happen in all over the world with partners and with other governments. And what's the situation now? There have been threats on social media from Libya and North Africa about reprisals. Hey you, out of the street! Don't you realize you're douchebagging? I can't take it anymore. I found something that warrants a little conversation here.

1:43:15 And I think we're going to be seeing the, well the reports are, if you Google it you can already see what's going on. This is really a New World Order thing that just kind of blew me away. A survey, a study came out from the OECD. Are you familiar with this outfit, John? The OECD? Yeah, we've talked about it before. The OECD is basically the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. Right. And they are headquartered in Paris, in, interestingly enough, a chateau formerly owned by the Rothschilds.

1:43:54 Yeah, it's great. Yeah, and and their budget annually is about four hundred million dollars. Yeah, it's been the bucket. Most of that is paid for by the United States, but also they do big conferences. So, you know, they have big sponsors like, I don't know, Microsoft and Google. And what this outfit is is for primarily is to set international tax policy to help the elites of the world. You know, to help the Googles and how you, you know, and the Microsofts. Yeah, so they don't pay too much. And the Raytheons, they're not paying too much. You know, they essentially set tax policy. And they came out with a study, which is a very large study, and I spent a lot of time yesterday going through it, 466 pages. The OECD Skills Outlook 2013 first results from the survey of adult skills.

1:44:48 And this is essentially, they did this survey with hundreds of thousands of people over several, multiple years all around the world to find out, well, I come up with some conclusions and these conclusions are for policymakers and lawmakers so that they know how to run their citizenry. And typical of something when it's about skills, the mainstream media sees this as they only look at the graphs and go, oh, This is basically the message about this 466 page survey. Americans are dumb. That's pretty much how we work it. But it's interesting because if you look at the, if you google it, if you just do OECD report, in fact, I'll do that. I'm actually on it now. Those two words, OECD report, you'll see the UK says we're dumb.

1:45:46 OECD says we're dumb, America, we're dumb, everyone's dumb, Australia, boy we're dumb. So the report is being used to tell you you're dumb. And of course it will be misused. by I'm sure country companies that sponsor this, you know, to bring in all kinds of bullcrap scholastic things like Common Core etc. And I just wanted to review a few pieces of this because the report itself, you will not get this analysis anywhere because this is the only thing the mainstream is able to do with this is, we're dumb. Look at Japan and Finland and the Netherlands, they're really smart and we're really dumb everybody! DUMB!

1:46:29 And I took some time to really look into what the report is saying, which is something else, which is equally as frightening, but it's not about who's dumb. These are very small percentages on the dumb scale. What's dumb is that, you know, this is a report and we're being, it's being explained to us like we're five-year-olds. That's what's dumb. It's really, really fucking sad how this is being brought, and I thought it's interesting because the main thing that is highlighted in this report is, and they took ages I think 16 to 64. The reason, the real problem that we have in the Western world is adult education and about, you know, so people who are no longer in college and what is going to happen to them over the next few decades. As the report points out very astutely, manufacturing is becoming automated.

1:47:24 So, this whole report across the board is trying to help governments, and you'll see this happen, to focus the citizenry on three things. Literacy, numeracy, and problem solving in technology rich environments. What the heck is numeracy? Oh, I'm glad you asked because I actually looked it up in the report. Hold on a second. the numeracy... it's a bit... I have highlights here but it's... and when you read the... when you read what these things mean it's pretty weird. Hold on... here we go. So literacy is self-apparent, but numeracy... oh crap John, I wasn't... you kind of caught me off guard there.

1:48:22 Well, let's just look it up in the book of knowledge. Well, you look it up in the book of knowledge. They have it. Numeracy, the book of knowledge, defines the ability to reason and apply simple numerical concepts. Math, 50,000 people using the website a day doesn't add up to the number of people that need to use it. So we're low on that number, so that makes sense now. Basic numeracy skills consist of comprehending fundamental mathematics. Very fundamental, but they actually go into this in in detail And the one that I found most interesting was quote problem-solving in technology rich environments

1:49:04 And in this case, this is what that means. Respondents had to find a solution to a problem using the information and tools that were accessible in simulated computer environments that contained applications such as an internet browser and web pages or a computer-based room reservation system and common applications such as email, word processing and spreadsheet tools. In other words, the future for all citizens of the world is secretary. Computer-based ruling. Order entry. Order entry. Here's what's interesting. Although Japan scores very high in the literacy and numeracy, they were also the highest that opted out of the computer test. 15% of the Japanese opted out of the entire computer test altogether. There's a lot of caveats in this stuff. So here are the skills that you will need to survive

1:50:04 And they literally talk about surviving because these skills equal salary. Is it a checklist? Yes. Can I guess a couple of them? Let me read a couple of them, see if they're on your checklist. Accessing, analyzing and communicating information with digital devices and applications such as personal computers, smartphones and the internet. Hmm the capacity to use these devices intelligently will be a key skill. Oh, it won't yes It will yes, it will no it won't According this is these these are the same guys that are telling us that we have to set prices on carbon I mean this this what these guys say goes

1:50:54 Okay, it's interesting that Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden have above-average performance with high level of quality when it comes to literacy skills. Easy for me to say. However, if you look at how these countries are really doing, it doesn't really rack up with... The Netherlands is in a severe depression right now. So I don't know if it really means that it's all that great. Here is the key points for policy. Wait a minute! What? Go back to the skills that you need. I want to know what they are. I'm getting there. It's 400... But you read one already, the phone. You have to know how to use a smartphone or you're doomed. You have to kind of read it in order. Okay. Skills needed for the 21st century. All right, I'll get it to you. Oh man. Access to and use of computers both at home, work,

1:51:56 I'm sorry, that's that's a statistic. There's not one person in Congress that had that meets any of these skills actually do any of that I know but what I've I thought would more interesting was the policy casting on the list Podcasting's not on the list. It should be. This is a bogus list if it doesn't have podcasting. No, it says over and over again, it is about information processing. And the term, humans as information processors, we are basically the only thing, what computers can't do with processing, and there are a couple things that we do faster and with more skill, that is the only thing, we will be computer operators. Like you said, data entry monkeys. Yeah, order entry, yeah. Data entry, order entry. So the only jobs, and I went through this whole report

1:52:58 And I've marked up a whole bunch of stuff in there. I mean it's got graphs and things and is oh, it's beautiful and you know of course they call for more research. Yeah, got to get more research funded by this thing. It's very pretty that made me a little squiggly lines everywhere. The only jobs that will be left will be in information processing or entertainment. What about waitressing? Well, that is not in the report. I'm missing firemen, I'm missing... Police? Yeah, stuff, but none of that is in here. SWAT teams? All the policy... yes.

1:53:38 SWAT teams. All of the policy here is all about education, adult education, but nothing about low-level skills. It's all about high-level information processing. And of course it makes no, you can't have a society where everybody is just a high-level information processor. No. But that is what they were calling for. And you're going to see, as you see these reports, That it's all about how stupid we... and the worst is the alternative media is picking it up this way. That's the worst part. Like Zero Hedge and you know they're like, oh look we're dumb, we're fucking stupid, put more money on Common Core would be great.

1:54:26 Well, I think you're pushing it here, but for one thing, I think this is not going to, this is crap for starters. I mean, nobody's going to pay any attention to this thing. But I do think you're on the right track with this overriding thesis of yours, which you've been working on for a while. I don't think this is a good example, to be honest. Well, listen to the key points for policy and education. Develop links between the world of learning and the world of work. Skills development can be more relevant and effective if the world of learning and the world of work are linked. Learning in the workplace allows young people to develop hard skills on modern equipment and soft skills such as teamwork, communication and negotiation through real-world experience. Hands-on workplace training can also help to motivate disengaged youth to stay in or re-engage with the education system and make the transition from education into the labor market smoother.

1:55:20 This is, this is crazy. I think you're, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't. I think this is just a drinking club that comes out of rear port once in a while. A 400 million dollar drinking club? Yeah, that's drinking the good stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is, this is, here's what you're going to see. This relates directly to taxation that goes into education and they believe this. You're going to have to document this for me because I'm not buying any of it. I don't think it's important. I don't think these guys are influential. I don't think this report sounds like a piece of shit that should be discarded. I'm not on board with any of this. Then let's take, okay, let's watch this play out. This report has only come out just in the past week. Let's watch it play out and you will see that policy is going to be... Right now we have the shutdown bullcrap, so when that sideshow is over, this thing will come to the forefront. I'm a little

1:56:16 pertubes by the way, that they released a second report and they're not coordinated, which is carbon taxes, the need for carbon taxes in all financial markets and trading systems. They brought this report out yesterday and so then you have two conflicting, you know, two reports that are trying to get the limelight. That I think is dumb. And everyone's referencing this too. Climate and carbon aligning prices and policies. These guys set policy, John. This is like all those... This is for the world. I'm telling you, this is what these guys do. And they're listened to. And then, you know, oh, it's OECD, it's an authority. I think this is the New World Order policy think tank. Eh, I'm not subscribing to this. You're allowed to be skeptical.

1:57:14 I would think that most of these guys are running out of some of these other organizations, especially some of these EU operations. I'm more inclined to buy into that. Okay. Just to break the tension here and to go into new topics, you might as well play worst Russian announcer ever. Alright. The budget shut down and the US may be a rehearsal for something much more serious. October the 17th is the D-Day for the US economy as the country is running out of money. Nira, how can the problem be avoided? Is she Chinese-Russian?

1:57:51 I don't know what she is. She can barely speak. Why is she on the air? Is she on Russia Today? No, Euromax or Euronews. Euronews? Yeah, Euronews. They have one of the, something like this on RT I've seen. Yeah, they have. My problem is my dish won't, there's an RT network now, you know. That's just RT all the time. They got a million shows. That's where breaking the glass is and all the rest of it Yeah, uh-huh breaking the glass. That's the glass and Abby whatever I saw her the other day there was a clip someone sent was like 15 minutes I couldn't get through five and she's beautiful when she look at her square on you know as you said in the box Yeah in the box. She's gorgeous

1:58:37 Oh, she's so beautiful. When she's staggering around in heels waving her arms, she looks like a moron. But I can't get through her talking like, well, this is really it. And through the all the crazy, outrageous shutdown mania malarkey of the of the US government. I'm Abbie Martin. This is Breaking the Set. It's like that. It's pretty bad. But anyway, so RT has a network with all kinds of shows on it. Unfortunately, I can't get them because the dish is cocked or something. But I do get the Al Jazeera network, which by the way is quite good. Yeah, I'm pissed I don't have that here. I'm not getting a lot of material from it though, but I do find it very... It's actually pretty good. It is good, but there's not a lot of crazy stuff, so it's not much fun. I mean CNN is still got them beat.

1:59:29 for having nutty stuff on there that you want to clip off and ridicule. So there's not much to ridicule yet. Before we go into thanking some people for today's show, I have a clip here. This is a lot of people emailed me the article first and then I finally was able to find the audio and I cut it down because it was so boring. This is Bob Geldof and I think the Daily Mail did a disservice to to their readership by basically... Wait, wait, stop, stop right there. The Daily Mail did a disservice to their reader? Do you have... Yes, I'll tell you because they're normally... Is that even a possibility? Yes! It's a disservice to publish the thing. It was so much more ridiculous than they made it out to be. Yes, because the report was basically

1:58:37 Oh, she's so beautiful. When she's staggering around in heels waving her arms, she looks like a moron. But I can't get through her talking like, well, this is really it. And through the all the crazy, outrageous shutdown mania malarkey of the of the US government. I'm Abbie Martin. This is Breaking the Set. It's like that. It's pretty bad. But anyway, so RT has a network with all kinds of shows on it. Unfortunately, I can't get them because the dish is cocked or something. But I do get the Al Jazeera network, which by the way is quite good. Yeah, I'm pissed I don't have that here. I'm not getting a lot of material from it though, but I do find it very... It's actually pretty good. It is good, but there's not a lot of crazy stuff, so it's not much fun. I mean CNN is still got them beat.

1:59:29 for having nutty stuff on there that you want to clip off and ridicule. So there's not much to ridicule yet. Before we go into thanking some people for today's show, I have a clip here. This is a lot of people emailed me the article first and then I finally was able to find the audio and I cut it down because it was so boring. This is Bob Geldof and I think the Daily Mail did a disservice to to their readership by basically... Wait, wait, stop, stop right there. The Daily Mail did a disservice to their reader? Do you have... Yes, I'll tell you because they're normally... Is that even a possibility? Yes! It's a disservice to publish the thing. It was so much more ridiculous than they made it out to be. Yes, because the report was basically

2:00:26 Bob Geldof says we'll all be dead by 2030. Oh that thing. But it was much better when you actually... this is the One World Conference. This by the way... Yeah another... I'm sorry the One Young World. No this is a drinking club for advertising agencies and the way it works is you have... this was set up in the UK from I forget the name of the agency and they essentially they pressure their clients into sponsoring this thing it's and you know it's kind of like it's it's dubbed as the the Davo of for young people and you know they roll out you know Kofi Annan, Richard Branson, you know that Jamie Oliver and Jack Dorsey and Arianna Huffington this year

2:01:17 as counselors yeah and Bob Geldof of course he's always out there and so this time it was in I believe South Africa and I've cut it down so you could actually hear what he really did say and it's worse than they portrayed. You cannot afford to let your generation fail. It was funny this this whole conference in a stadium everyone's blowing on vuvuzelas And they keep- Oh no, you're kidding. And they keep trying to quiet the crowd down. Guys, guys, we have to be quiet. You know that South African accent. We have to be quiet to get Sir Bob Geldof on. There will not be another World War I or World War II. There will be a mass extinction event. Woohoo! Now that's cool. And contrary to the optimism of Mohammed,

2:02:11 and Kofi, this could well happen on your watch. And all the signs are there that it will happen, and it will happen soon. And so coming together today... What signs? Well, that's the point, that's the thing that you're gonna hear in a minute that no one talked about. What he was really saying. ...gives a sense of urgency. It is in our interest to have the poor with us, producing things, because then they can have money to buy our stuff and we have the money to buy theirs. This, by the way, is Bob Geldof's world economic philosophy. They need to buy stuff so we can have money to buy our stuff. Make stuff to have everyone buying each other's stuff. That is clear. Clear! Will it happen? It's possible. It's possible. You can set a date of 2030. That's possible.

2:03:12 You hear the vuvuzelas in the background? They're all like, it's hilarious. Hey man, do I don't like Mondays. But last week, last week in a report that was vaguely noticed. Oh, what could it be? The scientists of the world. Of the world! Said we may not get to 2030. They did not say that. I read the report. Nowhere did they say we won't get to 2030. There'll be a mass extinction event. We need to address the problem of climate change urgently, boring as it is. The rhetoric of climate change is boring, but urgently today and now because I tell you this, in the One Young World Conference of 2030, some of the nations that arrived here so proudly at our feet step right now will not be there to meet us. What will you do about it?

2:04:09 Well, I'm gonna... You must get serious. No doubt it's part of your agenda. But the ordinary... How annoying is it if you're trying to tell people you gotta get on board with climate change and everyone's going... It's very funny. I'm just gonna try that with everything anywhere. I go like I'm gonna City Hall here in a movie Zella with you Yeah, wherever you go. No just the kazoo is good enough. Just because it doesn't have the volume It has volume it's so ridiculous, so that's what it was about he was a clown oh

2:04:49 And I just want to say you know the whole and he looks like he's half dead already. He won't make it. That's ah There's your punchline Bob won't make it you're right anyway. That's that's what it's about ah I know you got to get out on time John so we got to move the show ahead I'm gonna show my support by donating to the show. I had people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun Oh Gotta keep it moving man, you're dragging us down. We do have a few people to thank. Starting with Sir Sizzalot of Gitmo Back Bacon. $130.30 in the morning, Jacob and Esther. Seriously, in the morning can we have the pickin' grinnin' version of Sir Jeff Smith's ITM song as an outro one of these shows. Oh, which song was that again? Newer listeners are missing out.

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2:13:35 I'm glad it's man. Mark Morris, Jonesboro, Arkansas, $50. Alter Shvade in Springfield, Virginia. Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, UK. Jason Fortin in Geneva, Illinois. And finally, Clayton Dunavant in Austin, Texas, once again. Once again, Austin's representing. Tyler Fife in Portland, Oregon. Finally Scott Soltis in Minneapolis, Minnesota. And then Travis Turner in Austin, Texas. And you have a note? Yeah I do. No, I don't have it. Oh yeah I do. He's actually sent a card, I believe. This is his card. No, I can't find it. Well why don't you look for a second and I just want to add that Sir John Donovan of course, our black baronet of Silicon Valley

2:14:36 uh... he gave us double nickels on the dime i did want to read his notes celebrate ten ten day and show five five five to give some jobs uh... little girl ye karma to all the producers and citizens just getting by in the u s a around the world also a douche bag call out for federal government politicians messing up real people's lives with the shutdowns of the do uh... both jobs jobs jobs and jobs I do have to know from Travis. I knew you would. My name is Travis he says and I was hitting the mouth earlier this year by my brother housemate soon-to-be night and hell of a son of a bitch Patrick Turner aka Ryan Turner he said I may have made a great point on the global warming fiasco so I thought I'd donate and share

2:15:22 In the case of man-made global warming, I was having a discussion with my friend who was studying food science on the subject of MMGW. He and his girlfriend, who is studying food science and a vegan, LOL, are, of course, all in. They seem to despise that I have an opinion on the matter, which I find strange since I'm very green myself. In fact, more than most, I ride a bus, I assemble solar panels, it may or may not work, I recycle, I do all the everything. Certainly more than those two douchebags. I let them know that their data is based on speculation, not actual science, and that the media only presents data that supports the warmest argument.

2:16:00 The point is that it's extremely dangerous for people like this soon-to-be scientist to insist that MMGW is scientifically proven when it's not. This is essentially a redefinition of the word science from something that is measurable and negotiable or repeatable, I'm sorry, in nature to just any hypothesis that sounds too delicious not to believe. What will this mean for all the fields of science? We'll see. By the way, I live off of South Congress in Austin so I'm literally right down the road from you, Adam. Literally! He wants a too delicious to believe climate gate combo which will give him a handwritten note Yes, the too delicious to believe oh, yes, this is to believe it's been a while It's been a while and a climate gate. Okay. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend I

2:16:52 Nice Jeremy Goldsworthy sent keep sending these cards that are those inspirational ones this one says integrity oh and He's got a bunch of notes here that I can't quite Figure out what he's getting at so I don't think well I'll send you a copy and you can figure it out okay all right, then I have a couple things are you done I? Yes, I am. We've got a couple things still to do here. I want to thank Joe over there at Healthy Surprise, our box cane. Oh yeah. Adam, keep up the great work with the show. At least I know Mickey will enjoy these snacks if you and John can't stomach the kale. Yeah, he sent me a note too. Let me read it. Keep up the great work. He says,

2:17:40 He says, I'm gonna keep sending you kale until I find a flavor of kale that you like. Did you try the, it was the new kale chip crap? It's kale scrap. It should not be eaten. I love the plentils. I ate those. The plentils were great. And Mickey, she ate the gone nuts. Clusters of cacao. They're just nuts. Well, no, they're clusters of cacao. Almonds, raisins, blueberries and coconut. Yeah, yeah, she liked him. I had those have you tried the the cinnamon ginger cookie things yet? They're they're not good Have you tried the plenty you'll like the plantals I guarantee the plantals rock they really do all right We have an f-cancer karma request from sir Lawrence McBride my mom's in hospital for radium treatment and

2:18:35 for a tumor on her spine. I need fuck cancer karma incurable but we all want to hear as long as possible in a pain-free life. Thank you sir Lawrence McBride. I think that you know keep stay positive. You have to and also Mark Alcoser in Houston Texas he won karma for his mom who has lung cancer. Yay! It's just so awesome isn't it? You've got karma. The other day, before we went to La Miserable, we were having a glass of wine with our friends who had invited us. And there was someone there and they're like, how are we going to talk about parents? And everyone had lost their mom to cancer.

2:19:22 But it was what came out of my mouth. Sometimes I'm worried about what I say. Yeah, I would be. Yeah, and I lost my mom to cancer. I said, what kind of cancer? Oh, it's my favorite. My favorite kind of cancer. And you can see people go, well, lung cancer sucks. Breast cancer much easier. You got to keep humor in people. Got to keep the humor. Thank you all very much for your sacks of sixes, your... all of the fives, that's really nice. Yeah, lower end, but it's okay. We really appreciate it. Thank you everybody else who's on the monthly program, 33s, 30s, 12s, 12s, there's still 1111s, there's still fives, tens, we really... there's still people on four?

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2:22:43 I see no evidence that this Mark Hall singer, the musician that does the Christian song, lives in Austin. That's also not the Mark Hall. I know who he is. Okay. I have a question. You know how, well I certainly, but I think both of us over the years, as we've been doing this program, we've discovered that up is down, white is black, truth is false, you know, internet freedom means restrictions on free speech, You know, if you just look at things upside down or backwards that that may be the truth. Would you agree that we've discovered this in many instances? Yeah, in fact there's even a woman out there, a British intellectual, that wrote a book saying the same thing. She says everything is upside down. So you can imagine my intrigue, maybe surprise, but intrigue when I received an email from one of our producers

2:23:37 And he said, you know, I think it's time, and why I'll get into in a moment, that I explain to you about spiritual Satanism, also known as theist Satanism. And he sent me on a number of places to look to understand what this particular... this is not to be confused with LeVay, L-E-V-A-Y Satanism. Anton LeVay. Yes, LeVay. In this corner. Yes, very big difference. These are the spiritual Satanists, the theist Satanists. So is this guy trying to convert you? Well, I'm going to get to that. I'll read this relevant piece which I found interesting.

2:24:19 Our belief, and I truly believe this after a whole crap ton of research, is that aliens created the human race. Everything before us, up to and including chimps, evolved much like everyone believes. However, humans were created as a hybrid between a grey and a chimp. If you think about that for a moment, it makes a ton of sense. It makes nothing but sense. Bear with me. All animals on the planet have far better immune systems than we do, are far less prone to disease and live longer, comparatively, than we would. without the aid of medical care. Why, if we evolved like everything else, did we lose all of those aspects? It would make no sense, in fact, it would be the exact opposite of evolution and selection. So then he goes into this whole thing, we were created strictly as a slave labor force for the aliens.

2:25:11 And I verified, looked at all his websites and the Satanist Bible and everything to understand what he was talking about. So what he writes here, I don't have to paraphrase, it's kind of spot on with the belief. The entire idea was to create us then wipe us off the planet in a flood. Well, we know how that happened, it didn't. So part of the plan did in fact fail. That does not mean however that we have no contact with our alien masters. In fact, We are very much, we very much do have contact with the aliens, though rarely do we speak of them, or do they speak to them, they speak to us. This is where Satan comes in. Satan wanted to bring us... uh, hold on. Now the show is getting good. Satan wanted to bring us to a more perfect state. Satan is actually a grey.

2:25:53 He was fought by the other old gods. Was he a grain named Satan and that's the reason his deal is? Yeah, and ended up getting chased into what we call hell to escape the other aliens that were trying to destroy him and his allies known as the demons. In fact, the Bible brings this point up in Genesis when Satan appeared as a snake and had Eve eat the apples. Okay, so he goes in this whole... Yes, just like that. Well, the whole idea is, John, that Satan is actually the good guy religion and God is all the aliens who are trying to suppress us and give us different religion to confuse us and invented the Tower of Babel so we speak different languages and make us angry and fight and have wars etc but that Satan is trying to really bring us back to the the fifth dimension level that we belong in. I think you should stay with this idea. But here's the point, here's the thing that I really liked.

2:26:50 You really liked. He said the reason why he was telling me this is because Satan asked him to. Oh! Satan is aware... Well I'm glad you're... it's funny because they didn't put me on the on the BCC. No, specifically Satan is aware of me, likes what I'm doing. I'll bet. He wanted me to know that Satan's listening And give me the... How about some donations then from Satan? Well, I got... this is what I said. I said, hey, can I make a deal with Satan? And he said, yeah, no, you can make deals all the time. Oh! And I said, well, I got a great idea. How about you drop a couple million on us and I'll propagate this formula forever. There you go. Now you're talking. I want to see you make this deal. So anyway, apparently it doesn't work that way.

2:27:43 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh So right hand path is white magic and that would take, you can only do it after a year and a day. Left hand path can be at any moment and it, you know, basically it's the black and blue candles, you swear your allegiance to Satan, then you have to sign your name in blood. Sign your name in blood on what? I don't know. He hasn't let me into the full rituals yet.

2:28:20 And that can be done at any point so that would be the consideration. Well I don't know go either way depends on what's the easiest. I really don't like to work hard so let's take the easy way out. How can we get the cash fast? This is my, can I get? This is bullcrap we're getting no cash. My experience with most of these operations religious or quasi religious or Satanist or whatever they want the cash. See that's the catch. No he's no no no. You want the cash from them. I don't think so. They want the cash from you. No I this is what. No you'll see. Okay I'll wait I'll wait. Cash always is outflow never inflow. I mean they promise inflow but it never happens. Well I'm I'm I'm. It's never from them. I'm being positive and optimistic. Yeah.

2:29:10 Should keep with keep tabs on this yes I thought I'm gonna just a question you might be able to answer do the gray still have sex with the monkeys I'll get an answer for you. Don't worry. I like to know maybe they're still doing it with the monk well So the grays and none of the aliens are good apparent That's the whole idea is none of these eight these aliens are all shite. Oh They're all... That's the way the Russians portray them. That's all bad. But Satan is the good guy. And look, all I know is, wow, it wouldn't surprise me. Why would it surprise you? No, that's what I'm saying. It wouldn't surprise me.

2:29:53 So, okay, is that it with this piece of this? This is the best that you can do with the crackpot side of the show? I think this is pretty important. When someone tells me that... I want a weekly update. Yes, when someone tells me that Satan is aware and is listening and asked him to reach out to me, you know, I feel, it feels kind of like Harvey Weinstein is called, you know? Reach out to Adam. I'm listening. I think it's like it's almost like Harvey Weinstein sends a message you know through Tom Cruise and says hey that curry you know I'm aware of what he's doing you know we could we could bring him into the big show business family I just want a bit bit part and I'm like I'm I'm with you John I'm like make it rain Satan and then I'll sign my name in blood I'm down with that if you're the good guy make it rain for me and my buddy John

2:30:55 But if I'm in, then I'm gonna have to co-opt you. Yeah. Maybe I can get Mimi. I don't like that. Yeah, get Mickey. No, not Mickey, Mimi. Mickey's worried. She's like, oh crap, what is this? What is this crap? She's like, what is this? This is not good. All right. Well, if the notes set itself on fire afterwards, I'd be more impressed. Well, I'm gonna give you a... I'm gonna keep you updated regularly. Yeah, no, you should. This is something to talk about. Chatroom likes this by the way. Chatroom is... The question has to be answered, is the monkeys still having sex with the greys? You know Alistair, what was his name? Alistair Crowley, was that his name? Oh Crowley, yes, that guy. He was a big Satan guy. Yeah, he was one of the major ones. Yeah. He was famous. I think Jimmy, what's his name, was part of that group.

2:31:49 Jimmy the pedophile Jimmy what's his name? Jim will fix it now. How was the Crowley died in 47? Well, he was part of the crowd unsavory crowd Okay All right, okay. Well, that's good. That's a great great great report. Yes, you're welcome. I'm glad that that Now if I can find my clip list, well, I'll do another report here 24 seconds It's something I've been talking about for going on four years now ladies and gentlemen, and finally it seems oh my goodness It's on the news

2:32:29 We are back as promised with our exclusive reporting on who was responsible for a monumental health crisis going on not far from our shores, an epidemic of cholera that broke out in Haiti after the earthquake there almost four years ago now. NBC News has learned that lawyers will file a class-action lawsuit tomorrow accusing the United Nations of causing the spread of this disease. There you go. It's about time. Oh my god, how long have we been talking about this for four years? Four years. Yeah, we got it when they first showed up. But notice they don't do anything until there's a lawsuit. No one dared to go out and report on this because you'd be messing with the Clintons, which I'm convinced is why they wouldn't report on it. So one of our friends who doesn't want to be identified sent a note in saying that Kayak

2:33:23 is a Chicago, has a lot of lawyer connections to Chicago. Oh, of course. Former Mayor Daley was a partner in the firm that's the kayak firm. You're kidding me. No. You are kidding me. No. Oh. Katten Munchen, the general counselor of kayak is Karen Klein's husband's a partner there. It's a bunch of, it's a Chicago deal. Wow. So they're just giving them free publicity. How transparent is that? Well, jeez. I don't know what they hope to gain from it. I guess maybe they all, they probably all own stock in the company. It's all legal, you know, just mentioned kayak a lot. Maybe the stock will go up. Did you, um, we got so many just speaking of our awesome producers, we received so many emails and feedback on

2:34:14 the the concept of multiple drugs leading to Yeah, yeah, yeah to you know, and an area attack well, and there's a big connection to Connecticut Connecticut is where we we had three three of these crazies in Connecticut one of course was Adam Lanza then we had Aaron Alexis He started hearing voices when he was in Connecticut and we had this unarmed mother who was killed also from Connecticut. Of course, interesting to note that Connecticut has a submarine base and actually are listed as using ELF in Connecticut. I have a PDF here from the

2:35:05 It's the ELF VITA sites. This is the 211 U.S. Navy ELF sites by region and says right here that Connecticut has a couple others of course, including Djibouti, but San Diego a lot, Norfolk, Virginia. So we should be on the lookout for this taking place in anywhere else. But a lot of very qualified producers we have listening, pharmacists, doctors, etc. And here is what I learned. Prozac still seems to be kind of the top candidate. However, the hamburger helper of the industry, and I did not know that they are now the number one drug approaching six billion in annual sales, Abilify.

2:35:59 And it would make total sense because Abilify is intended to be used on top of and in coordination and combination with your existing antidepressant. Right, right, right. It's a combo. It's a combo deal. And this would also explain why the news media don't talk about it because you want to get a lawsuit? You want to see shit storm? Go on the air and say, yeah, these people are on Abilify. That's why no one will do it. Well, that's not the reason. Abilify advertises a lot. Yes, well of course. It's the same reason.

2:36:39 That's the ones got the cartoon woman on an antidepressant and still feel depressed? Ask your doctor about the option of adding Abilify. Abilify is prescribed as an add-on treatment for adults with unresolved symptoms of depression after at least six weeks on an antidepressant. You're not alone. A large study showed that two out of three people taking an antidepressant depressed. depressant still experienced unresolved symptoms of depression. Yes. You may not have to start over. Abilify is meant to be taken in addition to an antidepressant, not instead. Start a conversation with your doctor. Hey, get a 30 day free trial. So are the official pharmacist of the no agenda show. Dr. Chris, he says, uh,

2:37:28 So he got the full disclosure on the side effects. You have to go to the prescribing information, which is the most the public will ever get actually. You'll notice under warnings and precautions the possibility of quote, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which is delirium. Neuroleptic malignant syndrome is a life-threatening neurological disorder most often caused by an adverse reaction to neuroleptic or anti-psychotic drugs. NMS typically consists of muscle rigidity, fever, autonomic instability, whatever that is. Atatomic, maybe you become a robot. No, autonomic. Autonomic. Autonomic. Okay. And cognitive changes such as delirium and is associated with elevated plasma creating

2:38:18 phospho key and snobby nissen autonomic involuntary or unconscious relating to the autonomic nervous system in other words you start doing shit sleepwalking yeah yeah exactly stuff and you combine that with messages from ELF and it could happen you kill all humans no maybe it's just like they're sending messages to the submarine but you're picking it up Lucio ball by the way She had this, she, and I found this in the book of knowledge, she was the one that claimed after she had a filling done, that she was receiving radio stations. Yeah, this happens to a lot of people apparently. The filling is just apparently a fractal antenna it turns out, and it will receive like a crystal set, you know, you don't need power.

2:39:04 And it just vibrates a very... it sends a signal into the jaw and you can hear, you can listen to the ballgame. Without really a lot of work. Like many bones... You can't tune it though, that's the problem. No, you can only... here, let me see if I... Dennis can probably tune it. You'd have to be... okay, what are you... is this a channel for you? Ah, there it is. Lucy Ball was interviewed, the strangest thing that ever happened to her was after she had some dental work completed having lead feelings put in her teeth, this is a while ago, she started hearing radio stations in her head. She explained that coming home one night from the studio she passed one certain area she heard what she thought was a morse code or tapping. This by the way is exactly what people talk about.

2:39:51 She stated that as I backed up it got stronger. The next morning I reported to the authorities and upon investigation they found a Japanese radio transmitter had been buried and was actively transmitting codes back to the Japanese. Oh this is during the war? Yes. It's a crazy world. That's a wild story. Wild story of the day. Well it's on the book of knowledge. A couple interesting pieces of news. Skull surgery in Argentina not being covered. Let me see what this is about. The president of Argentina is recovering from skull surgery in Buenos Aires. Cristina Fernandez had the operation today to remove a blood clot and to relieve pressure on her brain after an unspecified head injury. Supporters kept vigil outside her hospital and brought signs wishing the 60-year-old leader well.

2:40:48 I'm worried. It seems to me that her head is her biggest asset. She is someone who's very intelligent and having to have an operation, regardless of how simple it is, always has its risks. I'm very worried that there won't be someone able to replace her adequately. Her head is her biggest asset. Now there's another story that's been going around on the blogs and on the underground that really is reported in some of the Asian outlets, but I've been keeping this clip handy because I have to describe at least what I'm finding out about. Read the Hornets in China story. Hornet attacks have killed 42 people over the past three months in China. More than 200 victims in Shaanxi province are still in hospital receiving treatment.

2:41:37 State health officials say that more than 1,600 people have been injured by hornet stings in recent months. Officials instructed the provincial government to put medical institutions on alert in order to promptly treat victims. They have also ordered the extermination of hornets in residential areas. Local firefighters have reportedly been mobilized to deal with hornet nests on over 1,000 occasions. Wow. These hornets are an inch and an inch and a half long. Why am I remembering something about this from maybe a year or two ago or even longer? These hornets are huge, they're the size of a small mouse. Oh wow! And they had a picture of some guy in the hospital, he had a hornet bite in his neck, they had a tube going into the bite.

2:42:27 It was draining him. I mean it was like these things are horrible and they're coming they apparently have moved There's apparently is an area of China where these hornets were always living and then somehow they've encroached on some or the Chinese have encroached on them I know what it is It's either that or global warming one of the two And Monsanto is getting the Nobel Prize by the way for what you know about public relations. No, it's Let me see is it Nobel Prize of Agriculture. Oh, it's, oh I'm sorry, it's the World Food Prize, which is the... Oh, that's not the Nobel Prize. No, no, I'm sorry, my mistake. It's, oh God, I hate it when I do that. The World Food Prize is their prize. Yeah, they're giving it to themselves. Okay, now I see it. I just read over it briefly. Nobel Prize of Agriculture, the prestigious World Food Prize. Please. This is how, bad headlines. I'm sorry. I'm glad I caught myself.

2:43:30 Bad. Chaos in Brazil. This is a story that has no but this has been going on for I don't know you we talked about when it began and started still going on. Thieves, scoundrels and villains is the battle cry of thousands of anti-government protesters on the streets of Rio de Janeiro, demonstrating in support of teachers demanding more pay. Groups of people gathered outside City Hall and across the city on Monday evening and into the night. Riot police took to the streets with tear gas in an attempt to quell the unrest. What began as a peaceful march descended into chaos as night fell. A group of youths known as the Black Blocks hijacked the protest. Firebombs were thrown at banks and public buildings and looters targeted shops and cash machines.

2:44:27 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that you know, you just don't hear about at all because this is all Olympics related Oh, yeah, and World Cup Olympics and World Cup right both of them. Yeah, but I mean the news even the European news I've been looking I'm just trying to find anything you look over your land. It's all dominated by the stupid shutdown The news media are so dumb You know the only thing that's not even entertaining the only thing that that that I did pick up which is kind of interesting is that Poland has now confiscated all of the non-government pensions Greece will be doing the same and it looks like Russia is now also

2:45:12 grabbing pensions, but these are pension funds again a lot of them have US money invested in them. So this whole thing of kind of grabbing pension funds that seems to be spreading throughout Euro land and the Eurozone. Yeah, it's pretty amazing they can do it. And that no one talks about it. Well, it's because they're ready to do it here. You think that would really happen? I think it could happen. Not during this cycle, but I think by 2017 there's something that can happen. So let's wrap up with that because we have discussed the possibility of a big meltdown in October. I don't think anyone has the balls to do it, personally. No, I think they're going to get out alive. I think October is going to be fine, hopefully. I don't like the idea of a meltdown in October, even though it's right on the money for the cycle. Right on the money.

2:46:08 Well, wait a minute, you don't like the idea of... Really? Why? Wouldn't you think that was just outstandingly fun? No. I don't like the idea. Luckily this Janet Yellen, this weirdo, she's gonna keep pumping money into the economy because she's all in on this quantitative easing and that'll get us through October and push us off, off until hopefully 2017. I don't like to say... The economic collapse is not gonna good for the show. I mean the show can sustain and we're worldwide and all the rest of it but generally speaking an economic collapse at that level is not good for anything. No, well of course not but won't we just all be in the same hole? I mean isn't it just like what it is? Don't we all like go hat in hand? No, we don't all, we're not all in the same hole. There's a bunch of billionaires and we know them personally that are going to do just fine. Right.

2:47:06 We're not in the group that can just coast. Oh well, I'll just have, I won't drink Lafitte this week. I'll drink Mouton. But we'll still have good stuff for the show. Yeah, well the show will be great. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh you mean, yeah we won't get any money. Well that's, yeah there's that. Yes. And we'll be bitching and moaning too much. Which is not necessarily good for the show but that's what we do. So, okay, I think that's a good note to end on. Nice downer, nice downer, I like it. You brought it up. I'm gonna see if there's anything here that's funny. No, nothing. Well, so in the crackpot circles,

2:47:51 This is what you know everyone's talking about it. How it's happening. It's happening. You know that we're gonna have the stock market crash We've got all these drills taking place earthquake drill on the 17th You know the the crackpot sites are saying the Pentagon is warning the EU to expect radical change continuity of government Barack Obama will you know will implement a national emergency act and And you get all that and it's tiring because how many times have we seen, oh it's happening, it's going to happen by your foot—people are now tweeting us, shall I buy this storable food? It's like wow. My advice is always to go to one of these standard rates and data's up with some of these operations have these databases for mailing lists and get a mailing list of all the Mormons.

2:48:39 And now you know where you can go get the food. They have years of supply. Exactly. Exactly. Just find your favorite Mormons. You can make friends with them. Hello? Maybe you could share. Let me just see if I have the thing here. Or get the mailing list that Alex Jones... Incoming message from Satan. No, greys are not having sex with primates anymore. We propagate just fine judging from how many people are on the planet. And tell John No cash required. No cash required. What does that mean even mean so you don't have to pay for Satanism? We don't oh oh oh so in other words nobody's cashing in on this no man Yeah, that's what they say we say that I'm super intrigued Hey, so you're off you're gonna be up northwest for the next show oh

2:49:37 I'm no I'm gonna be back. Oh, I thought you I thought you were gonna be up there for a little while I can't get a good enough interview. We're working on the internet up there. No I'm going up to To visit my daughter at the school up in the middle of nowhere. Oh parents day. Oh, that's nice Yeah, they do will they do a play yeah, actually they are gonna do a play. Yeah, I don't think she's in the play Okay Well, that shows the dedication we bring to you on this program. Going up and down just to make sure we got good internets. And I'm going to be getting clips on the road. Yeah, I got your back, brother. No worries. That's right. Blow the vuvuzela.

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