Tools of Slaughter

00:00 Hey man, I'm in the demo. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Sunday August 18th 2013 time again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 540 This is no agenda. My duty as your official pasta-turophile here at the Travis Heights hideout and the capital of drone star state in the morning everybody I am Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak. So, okay. Here's the problem we have for today show but we have only one problem for today show? Yeah and that is apparently somebody stole one of your something Salon Magazine I guess right now is coming out with what exactly you were going to discuss today No no this isn't what we discussed on the previous episode Oh well what do you expect

00:58 Well, no. I wasn't saying there was a problem just the... let me see this is Salon Magazine Jesselyn Raddick hello Jesselyn welcome to the show How about coughing up some of that salando you're making? I'm sure it's just groovy No the whole article is essentially our entire analysis of The president saying that he signed whistleblower protection acts Which is not a an executive bullcrap presidential policy directive number 19 and that Snowden should have taken advantage of that but those didn't go into effect until 270 days after the president signed it in full 365 days which would be I think in October this year when No, no about now. Yeah what it actually you know when they have when they hang that notice up in the in the lunchroom Hey Are you thinking of blowing the whistle?

01:57 Here's some things to consider. Bitch about the you know the media mainstream media at all levels I would put salon in there kind of and it's not alternative no, and That they never do any of this. And so when they finally do it then we're bitching again. Yeah What's wrong with this story something's wrong

02:41 Yeah, yeah. I think it's kind of good you know we're seeing some interesting things taking place and questions being asked and... ...I think in general that's pretty good. It have a feeling it may be short-lived No not necessarily. You get lot of attention by pointing out these things where people go what? What? They are listening they are reading our emails they doing their what So I don't think it's... But, I don't think people are understanding the what it really means. What the true impact of knowledge that the government is eavesdropping collecting if not listening in real time certainly has the capability to go back and retrieve communications

03:31 Yeah, because I you know just talk to anyone who knows about it and say hey have you changed your behavior at all? Are you more careful now about what you say to someone on the phone or in an email or on social media And I'm pretty sure they'll say yeah well So this is a direct impact on you know your right to freedom of speech Totally. And it I think will affect people in very profound ways that we can't even really think of at the moment Well Adam, I don't know about you but i really don't think we're going to have too much trouble. We do have a good government and uh... I do appreciate the work and effort they put into it every day is very hard being a government employee there are actually if you look at like new york times stories about stuff there are comments of people who talk just like that The government doesn't care what you say your brother-in-law you fool

04:29 Exactly. Speaking of New York Times, I came across this fantastic piece on NPR which...I was just like what? Really right now at this moment who's running that joint? The New York Times has moved all of its reporters onto corporate Gmail accounts unlike the free Gmail used by millions of people corporate gmail accounts cost money and have greater privacy protections But that protection is not complete. The move could leave Times reporters in a difficult legal situation if they are the subject of a government investigation." How can you, at this very particular moment? How can you as an IT department, as an organization, as a publication even consider for a moment moving your journalistic email to Google?

05:23 It makes zero sense. It's hilarious, actually. I give you a clip of the day damn near for that. Well there is actually... it was pretty good report. I have to give it to NPR for this although they didn't see the irony, I don't think and here's a woman who works for... just part of the same piece who works for The Wall Street Journal And it explains again what the consequences are of people knowing that your government is possibly or certainly evil. No, they're taking all your emails period! I find that all of this including the AP revelations contributed to a

06:02 sense of nervousness, I guess among sources. Jennifer Valentino-DeVries is also at the Wall Street Journal Even people who are not discussing particularly sensitive information with me will comment about the possibility of my emails and phone calls being tapped And i think that's been disconcerting It's in this context that The New York Times decided to outsource its email to Google Before the switch, Time's emails were stored on servers it owned. I mean, how can you... this piece makes no sense to me where you have someone saying it's really a weird time to be doing this and then the reporter comes back and says it's in this context that they did it? Now those messages are in Google's digital filing cabinet. I worry a lot about outsourcing of email at news organization Julia Angwin We only have two layers of protection right one is technological and one is legal

07:02 So certainly our lawyers at a news organization are going to fight to protect our emails. But if they don't fully control them technically, they can't mount a very good argument." Now when I heard this, I thought man is this really a hit piece on the Times? This is like The Wall Street Journal and NPR saying hey! If you got something to say, don't go to The New York Times!" You might be right. This may actually be a hit piece on the New York Times. It felt like it, here's The Times response... The Times isn't the only media organization to outsource its email and in a statement it said that it discussed the legal issues involved here In detail, the company said it is confident that its deal with Google combined with precautions journalists are now taking has actually enhanced protection of sensitive information

07:50 Right now, the Times believes hackers are actually a bigger security threat than government investigations or gag orders. Fred Cate is the director for applied cybersecurity research at Indiana University. He says a large email service provider like Google may very well have better security still, Kate says when it comes to mounting illegal defense against the leak investigation The Times is making itself vulnerable Yeah It sounds like a hit piece to me John Sounds like I hit peace in a number of ways and they also what is this notion that Yeah, Google may be protecting you against a Chinese hacker but if they're just giving everything to the government for them to scrutinize what good is that? And this is the point that I'll just make it early on.

08:35 People feel like they have no recourse, there's nothing they can do about these vast spying programs that have gone on. Of course ultimately you have to vote people out of office but everyone is in on the game so short of some kind of French revolution that is going to be complicated which by the way I'm not saying it wouldn't be an interesting idea But the real way to do this, to get... I don't know what you're talking about Adam. It's digitized it's fact i said it The real way to stop this and certainly slow it down is you've got a you've got to boycott Google

09:16 All and all these services, you know You've really just got to stop using them and I have a feeling you know And this is our ongoing conversation about how targeted advertising doesn't really work and spam Really is the way to go. And Google isn't fact proving that with their changes to gmail where there's they're now actually spamming you We'll talk about that in a second You know they're making a lot of money providing services not just to the US government, but all governments. I'm sure that you know they have a Drive-by window you know hey, I want to get some info on this guy that guy where you from Belarus alright No problem didn't it's like three two or three hundred two thousand dollars for searches that they allow I mean This could truly be

10:04 You know, a big part of the business model. And if you look at it... Essentially Google gets such a free pass from not just the government but from the media in so many different ways because everyone wants to be bought by them essentially that it's like a perfect mix They've got all the pieces that they need and everyone is buying into it The people who can stop them are us Just stop using their stuff. Stop it just don't use it and you don't need I said, I did it I do it once every three four months and it's actually gotten pretty good now I set up Yacy search again the peer-to-peer search engine And now they've changed something so it kind of works without your processor spiking and again, I'm just amazed with the results The results are better They're just better because you're not getting all this stuff that has been gamed in the Google is pushing ahead

11:03 You know that I've been reading about the email marketers who are freaking out about Google's Gmail change where now they put stuff under the promotions tab. Yeah, including our newsletter by the way decides on its own yeah including our newsletter by the way our newsletter goes into the promotions tab anything that comes from MailChimp goes into the promotions tab there's just no way about it and all these You know, these guys who in these marketing companies are like oh no well you know doesn't seem to be affecting us too much. We're not too worried about it but meanwhile from what I understand is that now Google is putting their own promotions at the top in the Promotions tab

11:44 So there'll be like two emails that you didn't really receive as emails but they're promotions in your email promotions box. Really? Yeah! Just like they do with search, it's highlighted a little yellow... You know if I was a Google...I use Gmail for one thing and one thing only Porn. Porn?! I don't even know if there is porn on there. I use it for one thing and one thing only sending you the clips yeah thanks But the rest of the time I won't use it and then I think it's dumb. I don't even think it's a very good product You got to find somebody who does email professionally and maybe at the paid, you know 20 bucks a year or whatever but

12:25 But using these free email services is really dumb. I think the way to go is you've kind of got to do it more on a community-based level where you have one guy in the neighborhood or one kid who can run a server and y'all pay like $1 a month, and then the kids make $100 bucks, then he'll set up and maintain for 20 families. That's a much better idea then you know because you're still going to run into the problem of centralized services not so much about, to me, the security aspect. If you want something to be secure keep it in your head and even that's iffy if it's too secure in there certainly don't put on a computer don't put online is gonna be vulnerable one way or another but if you want to be free if you wanted just be free of this slavery

13:16 Then you know, you've got to be on a smaller service and not something that... A thousand people is too much. Google went out I guess they went down or whatever Yeah, I was actually online and I used DuckDuckGo for most of my searches which is mediocre It's better than actually generally speaking for regular searches than Google is But for image searches, which I need for various reasons. I still revert back to Bing or Google because you can look stuff up by pictures and that's why I'm on there and it gives me some error message Yeah And I should have taken a screenshot of it I guess but is It said...I knew the service went down because you never get a message from Google like this says Oh! I don't know we're down Don't know why

14:05 But this was kind of a... Check back in 15 minutes. In fact, the time they said to check back in is when I came back up which makes me wonder whether they just turned it off because the government asked them too for awhile and make it look like they're being...I think that these services are being hit by our own government This is not paranoia They've been pushing and pushing the cyber war thing. And the Joint Chiefs, and all the head guys who don't know anything like what's his name Dempsey with this little Baker-like tab nametag. Dempsey goes on and on we played clips after clip clip after clip how they're gonna put, they want to put billions of dollars into this cyber warfare you know kind of thing. I think that this whole thing was a scam. Now you're in the kind of in the tech journalism milieu what is the story that came out of this? Have you noticed the meme, the story that everybody just repeated over and over again? No, well it wasn't. The only thing I heard was Google went down for 20 minutes! Okay so google it

15:06 See what the story is and I'll tell you what it is Google goes down for five minutes 40% of internet traffic goes away And this has been repeated by everybody every respectable quote-unquote tech journalistic outfit has repeated this unlike Well, who measures the internet? I'd like to know where this 40% comes from. It's the same thing with how many people are killed in Syria and how many people are killed in Egypt and it just keeps getting repeated and then sometimes a number grows so what is being implied in this tech journalism is that Google is responsible for forty percent of global Internet traffic

15:49 I'm like really? Okay, let me find out who measured that. Is there some Department of Internet Traffic that i can talk to who measures this on a timely basis? No it's an outfit called Go Squared Engineering and they posted a picture...a graph..and their claim here Google's downtime caused the 40% drop in global traffic and everyone is pointing to them as the experts in internet traffic measurement And all these guys do is they're like a stats company. So yeah, it may be that 40% of their customers who use their little stats bug dropped because of it but they're not measuring you know bit torrent traffic It's a known fact that most of the peer-to-peer file sharing takes up at least over 50 percent of the internet so how could Google take up forty?

16:47 More importantly, why are journalists accepting... Because it's a source that at least is a source. There are other sources like there's this one woman who really does the best job of this and she's out of UCLA and she really knows what she's talking about but you're doing the story, you're getting paid nothing because writers don't get paid anything and so you gotta get the story done. In fact if your on one of those crappy like Mashable or Venture Beat or all these high turnover Online publications you're supposed to do three or four or five stories a day right so you might as well just Just roam around the bitch. Yeah, that's an interesting story Oh, there's good this run that let's copy that and everybody else is using the same stats So you're good to go yeah approved way too good are you on Twitter today? Yes I am oh crap

17:37 Why? Well because you know this is gonna come up. I wanted to make a lot of fun of it, I can tell you what the conversation's gonna be Wow did you see that Google is 40% of the internet traffic! I don't think anybody that's on this panel would actually buy that Okay, you don't bring it up. We'll see what happens okay? They throw it in I'll let it go. Let us. I'll let it hang out there and then I'll drop the bomb a JcD bunker buster everybody stand back here at comes Anyway, so yeah it's a and I'm really happy with the big message. And by the way if Google has that much of a number that means they're one of the world's biggest spammers. Well you know what? If that is true... The spam also chews up half the internet Let me say something let's just say that i'm a journalist, i'm a tech journalist and this went to big mainstream publications

18:34 if this were true, if Google truly is responsible for 40% of the traffic on the internet then I demand that our government break that company up. It should be broken up like AT&T and we should split off the Gmail division and split off the drive division and split a split-off the spy division just it should be broken up in fact I think we should start driving for that based upon this bogative number. Google should be broken up Actually, there's a column there. Thank you! I'll be writing that for my Market Watch column... PC Magazine or whatever. Alright so talking about that sort of thing okay so i'm watching oh by the way just a quickie I was watching McLaughlin recording here's a quickie play the Clinton Chelsea clip real quick

19:35 The New York Times expose of the Clinton Foundation points in one direction. Chelsea Clinton is the new powerhouse taking over from her parents. Oh yeah, right! Absolutely and excuse me didn't we call that? Months ago. Have you seen? It was at least six months ago. Have you seen Clinton? Who? Bill. Oh my god, oh my god. John I give-I put it in the book six months and he's dead Well yeah but... No we know Hillary is going to kill him! You gotta keep him alive at least so she can be the October surprise

20:13 You mean the before the election? Yeah. No, she's gonna have to know I think the strategy would be you've got to kill him early and yes no but think about it for a second you've got to get the sympathy do you need time to get Chelsea installed you know this is I actually when I saw Clinton and now that you know that The New York Times article I'm thinking that was a setup with the Clintons It wasn't an expose, it was to set her up and now Bill looks he's on death's door. I know what this looks like Yeah no i know what it looks like too You know where the teeth start protruding a little bit and everything starts to roll down No no he is like The Walking Dead This is a vegetarian diet for you So if we do six months

21:03 Then, you know the... You gotta have mourning. You got to have the sympathy thing going on and then she just kicks into high gear. It has to be let's take a look at the calendar. If we're strategizing this we're gonna have to take a look at the calendar Let's just presume that were in charge of Hillary 2016 campaign and we are sitting around the table saying She is not winning because she started prematurely Hey Hill when do you want us to kill Bill? Well lets take a look at the calendar Are you being Hillary now? Yeah, this would be Hillary. Of course! Well let's see what we can do... November of 2014 so it just has to be I'm guessing this would have to be

21:50 within six months of the November elections in 2016. It can't be before that because the public will forget... Alright, let's write this down so you say it can't be before... This'll be our dead pool no agenda dead pool. You say it can't be before May 2015 is what you're saying? Yeah now... No 2016 yeah 2016 April-May Okay, that's the deadline it has to be after that. Okay? So I'm saying but I'm saying I'll even go out on a limb I'll say before 2015 I'll say it happens before 2015 okay But I'm really thinking it's happening this year no no Yeah

22:37 At some point the guy can't be kept going. I mean, i have to...I'm not gonna argue that and if you look at him and think he's gonna be dead within the six-month period from now because he just looks terrible by the way I want to mention people out there who donate or don't donate to this show nobody in any other form of media would discuss this ever! Not in this... No, of course not! It is a reasonable discussion they have in this world of spies It's a very reasonable discussion to have but nobody would ever do it. We're doing it and the reason why we can't do is that would go beyond doing it, we've been talking about this for awhile...we're actually now doing the Deadpool! And we stake our reputation on it! We take it one step further and they never fails were very good

23:24 Okay, so you have him at six months. Well hold on let me put this clear. You have two predictions you say pre 2015 because he just looks like he's gonna drop? Yes well and I also not just because of that I feel that it makes sense for her to have the timing yeah you think no I mean we have to produce all all of the hagiographies, we have to have the memorials. There's a lot of stuff that has to go on and then it has to shift away from her this stuff takes time! It takes time here's Bill in Africa hilarious report on the BBC which winds up with him actually talking about if he has it in him to do another campaign

24:08 Also, but he's the hubris of what he saying here is pretty funny. The population of the world continues to go up people will take more things out on the ground. The problem is there has been too much corruption and who got to do it? What was done with revenues He's literally talking about stuff that he has been responsible for. About who is taking the stuff out of the ground and what is being done with the revenues... And I'm only too happy to try and clean that up, I go give a speech about this in Nigeria every year To people who are doing it a lot of times But people are still going to take that stuff out of the ground so we need to do Is set-up systems that work better to do that I would happily spend a lot of rest my life doing that because

24:59 It's a huge threat if it is done wrong and a huge opportunity if its done right. He's already talking about this huge part of the rest of his life, so he already knows you know there isn't that much left I want to keep doing things that have real opportunities here and i think this smallholder farmers making these people self-sustaining increasing their incomes two and three and by the way he's in the video right now he's drinking water from a procter & gamble water purifier with the Procter & Gamble representative right there And, like for smallholder farmers. It might just solve a staggering number of the future's problems." You're very much in your post-presidency but inevitably people still are asking whether there is still a bit of Washington left in you now? Whether there is one more race to run and I have to ask that question. If I knew the answer I wouldn't tell you but happily if could be honest I don't know. So what question is he actually answering here?

26:01 Because the question is do you have do you have it in you for one more race? The guy didn't say is Hillary gonna run for president. He said, Do you have it in you to run one more races I don't know. Well, I don't know if I have it in me Oh Bill You don't I look I'm for whatever my wife wants to be and so well I didn't know if they had one more race left on me last time But I thought the President was getting a raw deal. I was glad to try to help him Mm-hmm. He didn't think he could do it last time Now that could be his way of saying, Hillary you gotta pay me. Give me some of your cash put it in my initiative But I'm totally on board with Chelsea being set up That makes a lot of sense and they're doing it now for a reason

26:52 Yeah, yeah. No there's the yes she's gonna take over the whole thing she's gonna be the godfather This is this little Chelsea She's probably worked at her parents or neglecting her she got a good education She went to like a boarding school like seeing the whole life She reminds me a little bit of Marissa Meyer in in some weird way you might well Donna Stanford same kind of personality All right that makes sense so you have a lot of that kind of thing going on? Stanford women they have a certain reputation. Oh really? Do tell! Well there used to be an old saying that you know nine out of ten girls are pretty and the tenth one goes to Stanford, that used to be one of the old sayings but I went to Cal where they used to propagate the formula. But you do see a good looking Stanford woman once in awhile anyway... I think Melissa Meyer is extremely sexy you know she's very pretty she's very pretty

27:44 So she seems that they seem like they're all connivers. She's in Vogue magazine this month I know she's getting some flack for them, but you can be a vote mate Vogue magazine As the CEO and people criticize say fine what there was why is she being criticized? It should be doing her job She is doing her job. Stock is up, employee numbers are down. Perfect! Right there firing people left and right. What's the problem? She got a stack ranking going on and she just getting rid of people whether they're any good or not. You know what it's a lot of dead weight how many CIS admins do you need to run that thing who knows whatever they're not gonna have anybody by the time I'm gonna put it go add to little our Deadpool information here

28:29 I am going to predict, this is the prediction. I'm going to predict that there will be a rumor or gossip item or something will crop up in one of these political rags that in fact when Clinton dies he was actually and I think he would be the one to propagate this, he actually died in the saddle And the Secret Service, they had to move the body. Wow! Alright in the saddle... Rumored, rumored in the saddle. But what kind of woman will it be? Hooker Of course What was I thinking? Right Alright Neil you can put that in there, I'm not going to dispute that. That's a fair assessment and your right he already has the dead man switch to release that information

29:24 Yeah, once he doesn't hit the knob. And the irony of that will be... and I think the irony of Hillary managing to kill him The irony to that dead man's switch is that it's the last slam he takes at Hillary Exactly. The last one. It actually may hurt her campaign How's that for a thing? Yeah, no it's good. Put that all in the book! Now did you want to go in... I'm sorry because I kind of sidetracked you on your Clinton-Chelsea thing there. No that was all I wanted to point out was this little one because I've been playing McLaughlin stuff so I got McLaughlin these guys are the worst except for it turns out and we should remind listeners I don't know what show it was but years ago we had one of the producers of The McLaughlin Report on

30:12 who just gave us the background. No, we didn't have him on... I'm sorry, by on i mean we had an email So it's almost the same thing for this show because we don't bring guests on and we just discuss things But we do have access to a lot of information now so so to show you just to show the public out there, and this was on NPR I'm sorry PBS other regular TV stuff to show you how stupid these people are or the users are the writers Or the writers, yes. But this one was I believe ad-libbed because he was flabbergasted. McLaughlin... You have to listen to this carefully because it's amazing that a guy of this stature, this old, been around the block, old dude, McLaughlin could possibly think this way but play the McLaughlin drugs 1. It looks like crack cocaine and heroin ends will the use of those drugs go up?

31:13 Brian Grimm. Well, that assumes that the drug war is reducing drug use but our prisons in fact are filled with drugs I don't...I can't think of something that could represent a greater failure of prohibition of drugs than the fact we can even keep them out of our prisons What do you base that on? There are tons of federal statistics that talk about drug use in prisons. They can't keep drugs out of prison? Can't keep them out of prison. What, next you're going to tell me they're having homosexual relationships in them prisons! That can't be true! What an idiot! How do they get it in?!

31:54 Wow, that's pretty good. Yeah Do you want to go into your second and third cuz I have something relatable to this Well, you can do like these other two are the same kind of bullets playing let's play him Okay well here's the second one now This is just a little off topic from above just humiliating McLaughlin But this is we'd be like to do there's another guy Buchanan who was on the show Oh who's once been a potential president and is a supposed conservative, who is an actual... I always took this lightly that everyone thought he was a fascist. He IS a fascist! And it has been proven week after week on this particular show Here's his commentary about what Holder had to say John let me give you a statistic I think we had something like 600 thousand people in prisons and jails around 1980

32:45 and since then it has more than tripled. And that is one of the primary reasons you get these chronic criminals off the streets, is why crime has dropped in New York enormously but its dropped in cities all over America and you start opening up the prisons and we'll be right back to the liberal 19... We're talking about people who are jailed for long periods of time from minor drug infractions You gotta love Eleanor She actually is the only reasonable person in this particular debate. For once, for once... For once! And so here's the kicker of the whole thing But she smoking the dope because what she's talking about I saw this episode What she's talking about it not factually true It's not like Holder said oh we're gonna let everybody go You know there's none of that Shes just smoke-she literally smoking the Holder dope Well I think shes literally smoking dope period but uh

33:41 So there is the third one, which is the one that just... You cannot find this statistic because it doesn't exist. This is where I think the writers are sick of this guy because his show has been highly written and I think one of them just said, I've had with this guy he's an idiot and I'm gonna give him a little stat here let's see what he does with it More as a health issue not a criminal violation And frankly the states are leading the way on this because they can't afford to keep jailing these people. It's too expensive. Well, Eleanor let me confront you with this how many crimes does the average drug addict commit? According to a RAND study the average addict commits 11 thousand crimes over a lifetime chiefly robbery and burglary to support his or her drug habit. Individuals? Eleven thousand! Each individual? Let's put him in rehab The average addict eleven thousand He has committed extra crime every day of his life

34:39 So get him to bed and put him in rehab. There you are! It says it right on the prompter. That's funny. Eleven thousand and even Buchanan, who is like a Nazi he says wait a minute let's do the math on this that means every single day? Hey John here ya go. Well deserved well played sir well played You set me up I thought the first one would be it but then now you did it good job I did want to say something because i've been interested in this combination of things coming together. And, I don't think enough journalists do stuff like this but I figured that I should do a drug buy on Silk Road

35:26 And I did and it was a very, very interesting process. Because it deals with anonymity which may or may not be anonymous because of course you're using the Tor browser which we know is compromised You're dealing with bitcoins you're dealing with separate encryption processes but also The sheer amount and the marketing. Have you ever seen the Silk Road, the drug website? No I've never gone to it. Can you get into a regular browser? This is silkroad dot com? No no no no It's silk road blog slumping rgb dot onion whatever

36:04 And yeah first you have to install the Tor browser, which are you probably even get to it? Yes. That's the whole point Oh well I can't go look at it No You can't look at it now But this is the point I don't think most tech journalists have even done this because you can see that there is There's a couple things going on first of all People understand very well how to you know how to set things up and you know I use two proxies actually just make sure like trying remove myself as much as possible and And then you got to use your bitcoins, but you look at this site. It's like an eBay essentially but much better and... Much better? Where did you buy it? Illegal drugs. Oh, you won't tell me

36:47 Not on the show. No, it's probably I'm guessing it's Adderall no no okay, okay? I guess is no I bought something really illegal that I've never done before in fact I intend on Sam worse every category every category of drugs onto the Silk Road Because yeah well how can you talk about this stuff if you don't do it so You look at the pictures and there's just like everybody's like a mound of coke with the guy's logo. A mound of coke? No, a mound and then there is like heroin you know big brown globs of powder. Take street shots! Oh I will certainly it's fantastic its just like oh my god and you can search him what are you looking for i don't know

37:29 Actually, I didn't. I looked for Haldol there were some Haldol pills available. Yeah here we go again. I Didn't buy this temptation of yours no No, no, I'm not gonna try this that I know enough from reliable sources We're not gonna do that but then here's how it works so you You buy? You purchase it and then your bitcoins are deducted from you first have to put bitcoins into an account and you know on the site, and then they're deducted but they're in escrow. And they are held in escrow until the seller ships your drugs and he sends it through the US mail

38:10 Which is fantastic. And you know, they have reviews and they'll talk about his stealthiness was great apparently there's like some... You can take pride in how stealthy you are at sending your drugs and then when you receive them then you finalize And that means you say, okay I got what I said I would get and you can release the escrow to the seller. Now if you do nothing after 17 days it will automatically finalize or you can say hey I never received it and they actually have a resolution center They'll help with PGP encrypted emails You can go back-and-forth

38:48 It's really sophisticated and then you know... Well that's bothersome. What do you think is, who do you think is behind it? Well, um... Sinaloa or the FBI? I think it's completely sanctioned. It seems to be a great way to keep the economy going and just looking at the pictures with everyone's little logo in there There are a lot of drugs out there! There is A LOT! A LOT!!! And this is why you know the only problem for the government is the Bitcoin thing That's where that's a little annoying They love the fact that

39:25 You know, big quantities of drugs are coming in and they're being distributed. And hey the US Postal Service is doing this and this can't be minor John. This is a big deal So how is the shipments made anonymously? It doesn't make any sense. You can't do it No, no you... so they'll say okay please give me.. you have to give your real name and your address but they're just developing a database of drug users Yeah but yeah of course What's the problem? The US government wants you to use drugs because it is good. Drug money comes through the banks, it floats through the economy I think that's pretty well established Now we're going to stop arresting people because we need more users This is what our economy runs on drug money and Google

40:25 Where else and Apple I guess where else is our what else do we owe and besides you know that the tanks And stuff that we kill people with yeah, we do a lot of munitions Yeah, no so we do a lot of that which you can't buy on On this Silk Road. No guns. No ammo nor nothing like that. I'm surprised There's not a silk road for arms dealers there may be yeah there Maybe maybe but did this in this thing it's I was really surprised at how sophisticated Thought like wow you know what would this be but and you see the amount of no it's like Yelp. They've got reviews for every There was some of that, but here's the lingo Fe this was so good now that means finalize early oh

41:20 So that means even before the guy is sent it off, you'll finalize early just because you give him props. Because he's a good deal So now let's get to, let me look at this. You go to the Silk Road with... you gotta go through okay first of all it's a rigamarole so you have to be hardcore needing drugs No! It's not a rigamarole. You download the TOR browser. But you said it was a rigamarole? You got to download a different browser and you've got to have Bitcoin. Oh yeah. You've got to have a bitcoin account that's not a rigamarole I don't have a bitcoin account I'm not gonna download some TOR browsers Let me ask you a question Is it, uh... It's easier than going to the doctor dealing with the insurance getting a prescription going to the pharmacy. No no no You go one of those big meetups and that is what they are A big giant marijuana pot meet up I'm not talking about... And you walk in and... I am talking about pharmaceuticals like Adderall and Vyvanse and Ritalin all that stuff That is pain in the ass This is easy! It took me 15 minutes

42:24 Yeah, okay. Okay but let me get back to it. Alright so you go through this rigamarole I'm keeping the word and you get on this thing and then you order some something drug X from these guys does who's did this or does this then gets passed onto a supplier who he ships it? He is the drug x guy? Yes yes So in other words It goes to one of the firm... It's like eBay The Silk Road is not selling anything They're no shipping anything Buy it now Yeah, there's no bidding. It's definitely buy it now yeah Buy it now and some somebody ships to know they are shipping illegally shipping They're the real criminals. Oh yes criminal air shipping drugs to you Yes through the u.s.. So this has to be a

43:11 Like, uh... this is a speakeasy-like operation because so you have to have a special code or they're gonna ship it as a package of batteries. No this is the stealthiness thing. This is the stealthiness and when I receive my package I'll be able to tell you what it means how they package it Yeah, you know, you'll be receiving it like this. Mr. Adam Curry? Open up the door Mrs. Curry! Get out! Yeah, I'll let you know. I'll let you know how it works out and i'll let you know what I tried after I try It okay better not harm the show is all No drug using on this show I won't do it during the show I promise you that Hey come on after a Sunday shows we have a little recovery yeah But yeah, I mean I can't but I can't report on this stuff unless uh unless I know what it is

44:12 Hey, you know me. I've never done anything. No, I understand the theory Look one thing we know- I don't need to smoke weed Man! I'm all for that theory. I think it's fantastic We know i dont have to smoke weed That's what... We know i dont have to test that You got plenty of experience there Yeah, it doesn't live up to the hype I can tell you that. Well yeah... It's good for you know if you're dying of cancer or... So Gupta has a huge special called Weed and was done on CNN and they've been exposed off with this whole thing starts off with Gupta there just some little girl there's a secondary I don't believe me you think I've heard of this? There's a secondary drug besides THC in marijuana

44:52 It's called CDD or something like that. They just said they'd say it in the report but the thing is this secondary drug which some pot plants have more of than THC and this very doesn't have any sales And so they're trying to boost the sales of this stuff. And what they found is that there's a cute little girl who was having 300 epileptic seizures a week, she couldn't walk. She was just having nothing but problems and some research apparently out of Israel which does all the pot research because we in the United States are precluded because of various agencies and otherwise from doing any research whatsoever thus the doctors can come out

45:33 Well there's no evidence in this country because nobody will do the research. But the public puts up with this because they're idiots So let's go and get this little girl, they got her a special pot that has almost NO THC so she can't get stoned What's the point? What's the point if it doesn't have the THC It's got this other stuff in it which stops seizures I think yeah, okay. I know about this story okay, okay? And then apparently Pot plants have all kinds of medicinal uses that there's the discover bring in Israel. Now this reminds me a lot of the coke thing and coca leaves, you know if you're in Peru Bolivia Ecuador You're at the airport you go to the airport lounge they got coca tea and usually take a bag make some tea and then grab the rest of your bags put it in your pocket And then you've got your coca leaves. You put it in your pocket John? Don't you have to put that in your butt

46:30 No, no. They're tea bags! I just wonder why you say you put it in your pocket? Never mind keep going You get it...You just take a few bags with ya So uh... because everybody wants to have a little coca leaf tea Hell yeah And ah..it's good It's like tea, it picks you up a little bit Yeah we know about the coca leaves There is alot of stuff that this thing can be seen We know you were in Peru Yes we know We know Cane Okay, yeah so there's a and I said the word okay after a sentence that stop you from talking. I guess so the I would say that must be true with the marijuana plant So let's play the clip anyway We played Gupta one on pot and get a little background been some great advances as the Sun was rising on the ancient city of Jerusalem

47:25 The final leg of our journey was just beginning. There have been some great advances here and I'm proud of that obviously Dr. Boaz Lev is with Israel's Ministry of Health Here, they have pioneered marijuana research. They were the first to isolate THC and CBD decades ago And now the country's ministry licensed 10,000 patients to use marijuana medicinally and has approved more than a dozen studies to treat illnesses like PTSD pain Crohn's disease even cancer

48:01 Nice. I like it, especially like the music Here we are in the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group Laboratories where we've discovered that marijuana is really fantastic It's good for you even in Israel where they smoke a lot so The CBD is that other chemical. So anyway, so the story goes on and on it was very promotional they bring an old man out who's got the shakes and he smokes a pipe and says ah! The shakes are gone! Shiver me timbers So, then we go and they start to talk about the real meat of this subject which is three different people. First they go up to some head of some medical organization who's got the litany, the AMA litany, oh it was good for nothing! There is no proof and then somebody comes out

48:54 The handsome looking woman who says, oh we can't study it so that's why there is no proof and then they blame this one organization. They bring some crazy sounding woman, ah that's not our problem! And then they finally go here is the little wrap up. Bitch look it up its science This program at Sheba is well established and experts say a teaching tool for using marijuana in other hospitals Do you think this could happen in the United States? I don't know that there's yet enough really concrete evidence of cannabis' benefit, uh... that is satisfactory at least in that context. I think it's going to come

49:36 But it could be slow going. The FDA has been great at approving studies, but National Institute of Drug Abuse has been really stonewalling and blocking any studies looking at therapeutic effects of cannabis because that's not their mandate. Their mandate is to look at the harms of drug use. It's very easy to blame an organization... Dr. Nora Volkow who is the director of NIDA says they are not standing in the way She claims they are not the only government institute that approves marijuana research. If you would come up with a grant that says, okay this is going to be treatment for... This is Arianna Huffington. It's horrible. Drug addiction then it will go to us but if its cancer then its goes to the Cancer Institute and if its schizophrenia then it goes to NIMH so the institutes have a mission with certain diseases

50:25 What is clear, there are bureaucratic hoops that most researchers simply don't want to jump through. Neuroscientist Carl Hart... There are not many people studying marijuana it's very difficult to get approval to study marijuana. What's nice about Israel is that the government is helping the research happen And its research could give hope to patients like Charlotte Figge I made it. You know what this documentary did? Yeah 1.2 million viewers for CNN Well, the public at large is very interested in this. Let me see what yeah but let me see what the demo was. Hey man! I'm in the demo. Let me write that down hold on a second 53

51:24 I mean if they only got old people, you know like the over... I'm sure it was white based. I bet it wasn't! Well the people that are gonna make this all happen are the Millennials who just think is bullshit generally speaking and I mean Many of the generations feel this is bullcrap, but they get talked out of it by these nuts. But you know the real issue here that I think was made in this report is that there are obvious benefits and it's not being studied so at all in the United States It's almost as though we have well maybe they're like your thesis which is now They don't want to legalize anything because

52:08 Banks don't get to do it. I mean that only drive the price down why ruin it? This is a good deal for everybody can you say Mina, Arkansas come on this is a good deal I know what your thesis is and i'm not going to argue against it because the movie or documentary cocaine cowboys which are recommended everybody see essentially made that exact same point by showing all these banks that were just doing crazy business until they cracked down on coke in south florida and then they all went out of business just coincidentally. It's a very interesting document. And, by the way look at you know look who's running the FBI now. That crappy Swiss bank

52:47 You know, just slapped on the hand for... HSBC. HSBC who was laundering hundreds of millions more than over a billion in total and it's just the cost of doing business to get a little fine you know I was like I will pay whatever millions we'll just we'll just pays now whatever no big deal will pay that will take care of it but now you know that the former board member from HSBC is now running the FBI he is now the director of the FBI So, you know hello the first thing he does like alright guys I got to resign from the board here But I got an idea okay? I'm gonna go into the FBI and I'm gonna set up this whole thing talk to all the people around there And I'm gonna make sure that we get everyone. We're going to let some people out no we listen people out we're not gonna put keep our users out of jail essentially and We're gonna customers yeah a customer. I'm sorry do you have to be they call them customers or users um

53:40 I wonder. Customers. We're gonna keep our customers out of jail and you know we'll talk to Zuck over there, Zucker at the CNN's at Time Warner and we'll say get this...we gotta do something big! Big, big, big! I know, we'll make Sanjay Gupta flip! That's feasible at least. To back up your thesis you could say that Sanjay Gupta has flipped And he's now promoting marijuana and is actually a booster, he's a marijuana booster. But it's not getting the job of legalization done it's just getting the job of getting more customers that's what you could make that argument. In CNN there was story I think they even printed out

54:33 They ran a story about how, and this is bull crap as far as I can tell. But they claim that the legalization of marijuana...I'm not buying any of this by the way but that the claim is that marijuana is 80% of all the drug cartels income revenue Really, it seems like such an inefficient drug for that kind of revenue. Yes I don't believe this because people can grow it there's a million ways to get in and its not... yeah but so I think thats bull Whatever the case is, they claim in the same article that between... this is ridiculous if true. That because of Colorado and Washington it will cost the Sinaloa, they only mentioned Sinaloa as though they're running things already, course we've set that up. The Sinaloa drug cartel will lose in revenue 2.8 billion dollars a year

55:35 Well, I would believe it. I mean, why is it that it has to be widespread? These are not drug states you associate Colorado a little bit in some parts. But Washington and Colorado aren't states you associate with heavy marijuana smoking as you might in California. And if that kind of number from those two...and they're not populous especially Colorado there's two small States essentially

56:13 2.8 billion what is California I mean now you have to say well maybe that's the reason that this did marijuana initiative in California was it was voted down because I mean it must be a 10 billion dollar state. Yeah, but i think that is very close to being true and you've got... You gotta see it! Some guy gets a bag of pot and now of course this stuff is expensive there's medical stuff Alright well okay stop let me ask you this what is your cell phone bill every month? 30 bucks alright do you think that's typical your cell phone bill? I think I have a good deal

56:51 That's 30 bucks a month. If you're smoking weed times 10 that minimum because that's what you're gonna be paying for weed and Think about how many people everyone has a cell phone is basically a drug user we all know that hello This is the cell phone business is it's multi multi multi billion dollars come on John think logically about this everybody's doing it except you hello, where'd you get out of the house more I I have to work on the show. Alright, enough of this drug talk. Hold on a second. Before you're done i'm going to look up something what is Verizon's which is one of the big cell phone companies what is Verizon's net income?

57:42 I'm gonna say it's net income. Well, let's look at this... We just go sales! No no no John why even do it that way? The revenue from Lipitor is six billion dollars a year. Lipitor one drug six billion dollars well marijuana is one drug that's right one drug and they're getting 2.8 from two crummy states come on Anyway, it's got these numbers are don't make sense to me. All right okay revenue for Verizon is a hundred and eighteen billion there you go thank you my point is made so sometimes ten is a trillion well That's just I just don't think people that I just don't think everybody has a cell phone not everybody smoking dope Oh John Okay, not just smoking all right never mind okay fine

58:39 You know what? Hello, McLaughlin Group calling. We'd like John on the show! Hey in the morning to you John C. Dvorak Yeah uh-huh In the morning to you Adam and all the ships with sea boots on their ground feet in the air subs underwater And the dames and knights out there. Yeah, and to our human resources here in the chatroom No Agenda Show... no agenda stream dot com, noagendachat dot net and to our artists of course we had a new artist check-in for the album art on the previous show episode 539 Yes, The Nazi Art Oddman which yes with our fine Russian capitalist pig screaming host of RT very happy to see that

59:17 And looking forward to more art today at noagendaartgenerator.com and we have We had I think we got saved by by Someone from Gitmo Lowlands today, otherwise it would have been a little bit of trouble on the show yeah, we had Excuse me. No, I've get congested Yeah, we said smokes and weed it'll clear it right up That's not true Yeah, we got saved by one donation essentially. I don't know why it dropped off so radically and kind of stayed that way. It dropped off after the... After the last show! Maybe people just don't like what were doing anymore? No, this is time of year where you have your big vacations a lot of people take in August. France is gone

1:00:07 Yeah, the whole country's on vacation. But anyway we do have two executive producers one associate executive producer and The executive producer from the ha at the hey the Hague Den Haag the net Netherlands said Alexandru Bersanu I've listened to the show for a long time, always thought of donating. Always thought of donating... kept thinking about it but never did! I don't know why? I just didn't please give me and all the others like me a big de-douching Absolutely You've been de-douched So he gave us 1687 which is the year Newton published his Principia

1:00:50 The Principia being the law of gravity? It was a book, it was Newtonian physics book. I think all his stuff is in there or his main thinking's Maybe we should read this book maybe it seems like there's something to it Maybe if he got a 1687 and then on his social executive producers the good old Baron Greg Birch up there from Port Angeles Passing through town so we went to dinner and really of course well as the Knights through town you know You and I both this if there's a knight a baron especially you who you know We treat them with the kind of respect they deserve So uh, so he dropped off 200 here. So he'd be associate executive producer And he dropped off

1:01:34 one of the newest of the new Canadian 20s. Okay plastic it's a plastic bill what and it's got a bunch just it's got so complete one panel is complete see-through, its transparent as if like a piece of transparent lucite and on the transparent part there are two holograms and each of them have a hologram within a hologram And then there's a little transparent note over on the left hand side of this solid plastic bill which is very smooth and slippery. And then, uh... There's a little Canadian leaf on the other side and it's very weird and it has got like a barcode some sort of weird barcode I don't know what kind It is on one side. This is very strange bill out right at that moment

1:02:28 Interesting and does it still have the Queen on it? Yeah, yeah she's on there. She said you know the queen when she was about 32 I'm looking at her...she looks like George Washington actually Look at her! Well let me see..I don't have a bill with me but lemme look at that That's pretty interesting this uh this see-through thing Yeah Hmm Yeah very strange And, you know we'll talk about this on the break when we give the main donation segment a shout out. They and I forgot about this but i forgot that they had shrunk the euro to a small little bill

1:03:10 And so the five euro note is a little bitty thing. The Canadians have not started doing this yet? Well, it's always been that way. The euro notes are different...the different dominations have different sizes. No but I got some five-I got a five euro note thats twice as big as this one You just go there a lot so you don't notice the changes. But anyway... Oh yeah, I've been there so often! You went to, recently? Anyway, so the five-year note which is about the size of what used to be one ruble note and the Russians were the ones that made these bills different sizes as far as i remember they're one of the first countries to do this and they did it long time ago

1:03:55 which I think are crazy because it makes the cash register a mess but whatever, uh i think is a reflection of the Russian economy because I was reading about these bills and they're saying well you know don't get hundreds in Europe. Do not get a euro 100 euro bill cause nobody will take it that's not true that's not true the 500 is the one that's tough the five oh no there's 500 nobody'll take but I'm telling I'm just reading a forum and they're bit Right, but as you know I go there a lot so yeah. Well you go there all the time So anyway the hundred-year debate what I'm trying to get to is that it's sounding especially in some of these countries as though we're seeing a reflection of the old pre-Soviet collapse or the Soviet Union economy where you got to be really careful about what kind of money you give right and you can't use your cards, yeah. You can't do this, you can't do that, you have to pay cash or you have to use like I said the pin card or nothing...I mean what is this? This is bull crap! Let me ask you question about the Canadian thing with the see through

1:04:53 Yeah. So can you, if you roll it up and snort coke with it do you see the coke going like up the tube? I guess you would It's perfectly see through its like glass Wow I think the way you would roll that there, I don't think you can make it so just you get it You know now. It probably wouldn't work because you'd have to oh no cuz only a small part I get it I guess yes only a little bit of let me yeah Let me just wrap this up So and we yeah well We will be thanking more people later But thank you very much Alexandru beer Bursanu from The Hague the seat of the Dutch government by the way who knows what he's doing coming Up with such an instant night fantastic executive producership it is of course a true

1:05:34 A true credit and you can put that on your business card, your IMDB or your LinkedIn seems to work very well for people. And also thank you to Baron Greg Birch for your associate executive producership here on the No Agenda Show please help us out for Thursday will be light. Dvorak dot org slash NA. And of course no matter what you do to help us please propagate the formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth. You know, you mentioned that we do stuff for our knights and our barons and our patrons. Sir Gene, Baron de Marriott Sheriff of Texas he's now moving into Austin And so we had a bite to eat yesterday after the market Anyway I wind up saying sure i'll drive it to the airport because he is going on one of his trips So I pick him up at his house

1:06:43 John, it's like a... now I know that he is handling me. It's a house with no furniture! Is this a giveaway? No furniture and a lot of camera equipment. Like really?! Click click click click click. And you already got the drugs from the silverware. What do you want to do with it? What are we going to do with this news now, I don't know. Let him go as we're getting too much good material from him." I forgot to mention there is a... We had the peerage map speaking of our knights barons earls etc With the protectorates is now we have A new producer maintaining this for us and you can find that at ITM dot IM slash peers

1:07:27 And it's very well done. It is a Google map mashup, ITM dot IM slash peers P-E-R-S I'm surprised you didn't know about this John you being the peerage office But it's cool You can see who owns what Who's in charge of which portion of the universe so that after the war we'll know who to talk to Yeah no perfect when you round them up and give them their areas We got to take some government buildings and put them in charge. Let me do two fascistic things first our president his weekly show hi everybody Hi everybody over the past few weeks I've been visiting with Americans across the country to talk about what we need to do to secure a better bargain for the middle class You know this is really getting on my nerves

1:08:18 This is better because I'm in the middle class, I presume. I'm not poor and certainly not rich. We've discussed this before... What defines a middle-class? Well are you looking for a bargain? Well I got one! We need to rebuild an economy that rewards hard work and responsibility. Okay, so let me just get this straight I am in the middle class, I'm part of a bargain that rewards hard work with something And let me see what will my life be like? This by the way Wait wait wait rewards hard work with WHAT?! I think you said a better economy Well that doesn't help ME! Let me listen We need to rebuild an economy that rewards hard work and responsibility. Oh, just rewards? It could be a sticker!

1:09:02 Yeah, could be a sticker. Let's find out because he is talking to young people I only have like 10 more seconds of this and this is his pitch for Obamacare And young people you know gotta go to healthcare dot gov and figure out where you have to buy your mandatory health care But here's the reward apparently for working hard An economy built firmly on the cornerstones of middle class life Good jobs, a good education. A home of your own. A secure retirement and quality affordable health care that's there when you need it." And then you can die! That's there when you need it. Just sounds like it. It's like okay let me just get my life here so I'm gonna work hard send kids to college retire die You know they there's some assumption especially in the administration that's running this

1:09:59 not well experienced group of people running the country. That Americans are idiots and the idea is that youngsters, the Millennials are all gonna jump on board an overpriced scheme when they don't need expensive health care insurance. Well they're going to have to it's going to be mandatory. No you can see just those take the fines and uh... you think yeah did that there's nothing but discussion about this i'd rather pay this penalty than pay this other thing which is why i really don't know what we don't want to talk about obama care on our time just gonna say they're going not jump in again if they do an abuse it like any american would do this is like you can get their faster but i'm gonna charge a ten bucks at me give you take it for ten bucks he was not gonna go on your record but you could be reduced speed as was gonna happen didn't kansas if your speeding

1:10:51 Stop. You're killing me. No, seriously in Kansas if you're speeding if you give the I think it...I don't know if you give to the cop or the court? You just give them a bunch of money and then they say okay It's not on your record. Uh..it's like there are different fines If you are an idiot you...you know....or driving without insurance anyway Just saying that these things don't work out with Americans if there is a way around it. If you're in Marthia's Vineyard by the way where the president is vacationing And should you see him at your local Fish snack stop where do you know he's TV always these pictures of the president? You know buying some fries or something just say hi. I'll tell him I sent you here's a Hair Bloomberg of New York City

1:11:37 who has a solution for the public housing in New York and I think he's probably talking to the next mayor of the city. And it kind of gives you feel, how the elites of the world... What is Bloomberg worth? 10 billion maybe more Yeah, he's worth quite a bit. He's worth a lot of money. Here is how he thinks about you shoulda citizens. and that is a 5% of our population lives in NYCHA housing, 20% of the crime is in NYCHA housing. Numbers like that and we've just got to find some ways to keep bringing crime down there And we have a whole group of police officers assigned to NYCHA housing The people who live there most of them

1:12:28 want more police protection. They want more people... If you have strangers walking in the halls of your apartment building, don't you want somebody to stop and say who are ya? Why are ya here? Because the locks on these doors with so many people coming and going You really can't.. What we wanted to do- You didn't swipe cards or any other security systems We wanted uh what we really should have is fingerprinting to get in And of course, since lots of the there's an allegation that some of these apartments aren't occupied by the people who originally have. So if you're in the middle class and you get to work send your kids to school retire and die. And if you're poor, you get fingerprinted like it or not should have fingerprinted those people what are we thinking?

1:13:10 Well, the guys would really fit right in in the 30s Germany. I wish people really saw it. I wish they could open their eyes and see what's going on. Did you just do meh? Meh! Did you do a meh? I didn't do meh but you sounded like meh. Meh is the same thing. So this F-Russia gay law thing continues And and I actually have an email that I from one of our producers which was kind of nice that I wanted to read but I also The more, I think about it

1:13:47 The reason why this is ongoing, I think it's to promote the Winter Olympics. I didn't even know about the Sochi Winter Olympics until this gay law cropped up did you? Yeah You knew...I really hadn't heard about it now just hear over and over again Did you know that was Sochi? That thats where it is? No See! I just knew its in Russia You learned something right Well I wasn't going there anyway But the whole point is to watch on television Yeah, so it's a big promotional deal now. I you know okay if you want to go in that direction? I got two clips can I okay? I'll read my email later Go ahead You can pull back but this is getting on my nerves what you just said I'm gonna play the other one later But I just want to put this was on ABC Network believe it or not and

1:14:42 It was a story about a Canadian, this is the Trader Joe's clip. WTF it says? This was on network TV. A story about some Canadian who is coming down to the United States to get buy from Trader Joe's and take the goods up north and sell them resell them to Canadians because God knows there's nothing as high quality in demand and high demand for crap they sell at Trader Joe's to yuppies Now to the battle between Trader Joe's and that customer buying carts full of groceries and then driving them across the border to sell in his own store. Trader Joe is not happy tonight, here's ABC's Rena Nynan. Michael Hallett says his fellow Canadians love Trader Joe products So the only way you can get a decent crap burger in Canada is to go to Trader Joe's

1:15:33 Hard to believe, but Hallett drives nearly 80 miles from Canada across the border to Washington state. He says spending $22,000 a month on Trader Joe's products then turning around and reselling them at his pirate shows fully acknowledging it is all unauthorized unaffiliated The real Trader Joe's is now suing to stop him from selling and also for damages. A result of trademark infringement, false endorsements, false advertising and other allegations There are more than 390 Trader Joe's across America in more than 30 states 14 stores in Washington alone And while Hallett says he only makes about $2 on each item He now has to go further to get the products

1:16:18 There was a heat wave in California. I tried the LA run and that didn't go very well so we lost a bunch of chocolate The store sign ironically has lost its P Alright, can i stop because i think your point is that they're basically doing an ad for Trader Joe's? Okay well i just googled around while that was running And here's more ABC Ah fuck, forget about it Rumors fly Trader Joe's may replace Shapes Gym in Florida. I mean there is a big buy, they did a media buy and they're rolling it out. It's one of these deals that you have to do now because all these media people got more targeted we need some stories We'll give you the money but if you could do a feature

1:17:04 all well we can do a feature we have to do it on a sunday show uh... weekend day of the number may be seen as week and that'd be okay you should say i don't think this story for the uh... for the donation segment you did happen too early here bro again another one and uh... so they've got to leave They do this you have to play the whole thing because there's another little gem in this thing whereas they're gonna It's it's obviously fixed. It's a This is paid for editorial and this is the problem that I don't understand why people that listen our show Don't appreciate this more we do which has none of this crap although We're giving a plug to Trader Joe's at the same time. We're telling you what?

1:17:46 Trader Joe's used to be a pretty cool chain when they were three stores. Now it stinks, but anyway finish this off and then I'll you get the gem at the end P now reading irate Joe's which Hallett says sums up his own frustrations if they said they were opening a store in Vancouver tomorrow or this year or next year Trader Joe's is not commenting. The other store owner saying he wants to start a knockoff McDonalds next, David. Oh! Yeah because heaven forbid there's not enough McDonalds in the world We need more McDonalds advertising. Oh nice They threw a quickie for McDonalds gave it in there which was also an ad That was actually a make good I think They messed up... The McDonalds probably was They messed up an ad They cut off the ending of an ad somewhere like ah we'll make it up to you don't worry about it It would throw it in editorials worth more than that

1:18:36 So I got an email here from Brian producer Brian Adam on episode 536 while wearing a man dress You shared your analysis of what is commonly referred to as the Russian anti-gay law prior to hearing your take? I did find the mainstream coverage of this law to be curious mainly because in the coverage by English speaking media there was an almost universal omission of the word children and That being said, I generally accepted what was reported by English-language mainstream alternative and LGBT specific media to be accurate. With that in mind after hearing your analysis as a gay man, I began extensively researching and analyzing Russian Federation law N135FZ in hopes of debunking your analysis

1:19:19 This research project has not been easy even with an extensive background in both journalism and politics, obtaining accurately translated versions of the essential information was difficult to say the least because no English language news media outlet or NGO made these documents available to the viewer or reader. Because of my yearning to debunk your analysis I was able to obtain a plethora of Russian language documents from Kremlin State Duma the Russian Federation Council and the Supreme Court of Russian Federation. I utilized best-in-class translation tools in order to compile accurate versions of these documents in English, I will point out by the way that we just asked our producers We have many Russian producers to translate for us and they all kind of came back with the same thing That's how we did it. You know, we didn't have to do too much work which got a great podcast

1:20:01 Uh, so um... Oh shoot. What happened? Oh damn! Somehow the connection lost to my trackpad- Okay we're back here I anticipated my f- Sorry I anticipated my final analysis to be complete soon, but given the increased coverage of this topic. I'm sharing with you the following translated documents etc., etc., etc... Following an extensive review of the text of legislation that changes the legislation as made to both Russian Federation Law and Code of Administrative Offenses prior to Russian Federation Supreme Court decisions and LGBT rights granted to Russian Federation citizens that the United States doesn't grant LGBT citizens interesting You hear that? The Russian Federation grants more rights to LGBT citizens than the United States I have unequivocally concluded That the comments by English-speaking non-Russian public figures and the global in English speaking media are absolutely false, and frankly lies. Your analysis is completely accurate

1:21:03 And this is a shock to anybody? I like the fact that he has an extensive background in journalism and politics, is gay and was like screw you Curry. You know I'm gonna get to the bottom of this so we had the link to his analysis in the show notes. Um...I thought that was nice! Another convert! Send pictures next time big boy! Yes, but we get a lot of this stuff. You know and then we got I think some Russian girl Sheena who sent an email And she's really up she's in a really long email, and you know she's like it was titled parody Please would would be much appreciated oh yeah? Oh, yeah, I got that too. Yeah like you know big long. Yeah It's like you know Russia today is good the horrible Skype connection is because they're researchers and journalists unlike Sheena

1:22:00 Did you understand the word irony did they not have this in Russian irony John is that what we're missing somewhere? They have They're a little weak on sarcasm. Okay, sarcasm maybe that and there are little irony Thinking irony is really a tough one because you had this theory You should bring it up again that Latins know Latin do not understand irony at all yeah now So you can't be ironic. No, no they take everything very seriously so you get hung This is what the ironic in Mexico is does not work And in fact sarcasm probably doesn't either but I had the Russians and irony

1:22:44 Don't know it's hard to say because they're so serious did JC buzzkill jr. Has this weird theory that he came up with? It was about I don't know five or six months ago He says you know the great Russian writers is all these guys. He's totally convinced that the culture of the Russian culture has been toxically damaged by the great Russian writers those books will make anybody depressed. They're so well written, you know Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Solzhenitsyn these people it's all very dark grim horrible as opposed to our stuff which has a formula where there is a happy ending

1:23:25 Or we test market four different endings and then we decide what we're going to put in. That too, but whatever the case is generally speaking it's a happy ending Are you recommending any particular work by Tolstoy that our audience can get depressed about? No I'm actually...I've read a lot of Russian literature, Bulgakov is one my favorite writers and there's a book called We by Zamyatin which everyone should read, it is very interesting. Yes! No I've... we uh... there's even an updated i think isn't even updated translated extraction version or something of we. Let me see what happens. Whatever the case is, ah..I would actually buy into this and I would say that the Russian people have to stop reading their

1:24:06 depressing writers. It's ruining them! What do you recommend the Russians... All of them, do not read them No no but they like reading so they should read something can we give them an alternative? Arthur Haley Hotel Roots? They should be reading roots Is that our.. who am I thinking of? That's Alex Haley I'm sorry Alex Haley is what you're thinking and i'm thinking Arthur Haley You want Arthur Haley, you want American movies Sleepless in Seattle. Boom! Winner. Nefron. That kind of thing. 50 Shades of Grey, I think the Russians should all read that And by the way it's not about your weather Just letting you know... I read We and found it to be incredibly challenging

1:24:57 Why? It's pretty straightforward. No, well... About people who actually transform themselves in a kind of fascistic socialist state I'm going to give some tips for our Russian listeners as well. I would recommend Here we go. 50 Relatives, worse than yours. It's a fantastic book I think you'll really enjoy that. I would say Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown. I think that is something you might enjoy How about The Man Who Mistook His Wife for A Hat? That's supposed to be quite good. Well who wrote that?! No it's about people who have facial blindness

1:25:44 Is that a new one? No, it's been out. It was out a couple years ago. Very popular. I like it. Jen Psaki spelled P-S-A-K-I We've had our eye on this girl for for awhile now and she wasn't really that much in the public eye when she was running the press bus for then candidate Obama Senator candidate to be president. She's now running the State Department and she has no soul, she is ginger. She is ginger with freckles. Cute though if you know... If she lost 10 pounds she could be... I don't know how tall she is? I think that if she lost ten pounds and was in leather you'd have something. She got a totally kind of that style John! You astound me

1:26:37 Okay, yes in leather that would do it But she I gotta say the girl is good here. She is on the Jake Tapper CNN show and she'd and this is if you if you're planning on being in in public relations Which is pretty much politics? Here's how you do it how to not answer a question about Lesson 1. The US has provided tens of billions in aid to the Egyptian military over the years, mostly in the form of assets weapons and ammunition and alike I guess that big question right now as a world watches is for the Americans are supplies at the U.S. has given Egypt now being used to kill civilians industry? This isn't it excellent question would you say John? Yeah but I can see you skirting

1:27:28 Well, Jake first let me say that what's happening on the ground in Egypt What we've seen over the past couple of days is deplorable as horrific. There are not enough adjectives to describe it How about Bogative throw that one in you've heard the president and the secretary described it in that way as well We're obviously looking very closely at our broad relationship with Egypt You can't have business-as-usual when hundreds of civilians are being killed in the street but we have a broad enduring partnership and strategic relationship with Egypt that's been going on for decades. So that's why we're doing this review very carefully, We've taken some steps to cut off certain forms of aid but were continuing to review day by day." Now excellent question because she answered something completely different Yeah And Jake is gonna try it again

1:28:16 But are American munitions that were given by the US to Egypt, are they actually tools of slaughter? Tools! Do we know that one? Write this down John. Tools of slaughter. Love it. Where the other Well, Jake obviously we're watching every event that's happening on the ground very closely and regardless of where these tools are from this is horrific what has happened to civilians on the ground. And it certainly is not acceptable to the president, to the Secretary of State, to anybody in the administration and we are evaluating and reviewing the events that are happening on the ground and the steps being taken by the interim government every single day I also like civilians on the ground

1:29:00 That's also good. These are great terms you should just use Don't talk about people, citizens or human beings Just talk about civilians on the ground So we went on vacation to the south of France and the civilians on the ground there? They're great I should use my tools of slaughter on them So she doesn't answer the question, skillfully done. That's why luckily we have Matt from Reuters who sits there when she is up on her little podium and he just gets right down to it He sets her up which I really like and then he spanks her now Spanks her right on her leather chaps Those are important But the question is are you confident that the policy that your pursuing will produce the desired results?

1:29:43 Well, we can't look into the future Matt. We evaluate every day what the appropriate steps are. And you believe that your... well that what you're doing thus or what you have..or doing now and have done to this is appropriate and adequate to bring about the goal that you say it's set up? Well, again reaching the goal is up to the Egyptian people to reach. We can't do it on their behalf. I understand but if we encourage them to get there... Yes encouraging them What has been done thus far is...? We believe we put some constructive steps forward some constructive ideas It's up to them to take the next step Alright and then my last one and will stop I promise after this

1:30:21 Do you think, is the administration confident that the steps that the policy that you have pursued thus far in Egypt and also in Syria are worthy of a president who not so long ago won the Nobel Peace Prize? Yes Matt. You do. Arshad. You should've seen the look on her face! It was a setup, it was good one. I'm gonna sit on your head until it cracks open Matt That was fantastic. So I have been thinking about this, about Egypt and I looked at our two actors McCain and Lieberman and... Lieberman? Yeah, Lieberman. Is he still in the picture? Was it Lieberman or...? Lindsey Graham probably. I'm sorry Graham not Lieberman, Graham thank you for correcting me And they were on opposite sides. McCain is like yeah no we got to call it a coup we gotta stop the aid

1:31:19 And on the other hand, we have Graham saying nooo, no-no-no. Oh! I wonder what... Well it changed Yes it changed for a reason though Yeah the reason is The AIPAC and this to your point that you made on last show The American Israeli Political Action Committee They came out and said We should not cut off aid To Egypt And that's when Graham went, oh! Oh! Whoops. Let me just change you up... Here we go I'm on board now with McCain. I'm saying the same thing and this is very Very critical how this aid thing Wait wait you confused me I did it the wrong way around didn't i?

1:32:04 Or something. You said, let me just reiterate what you may have said and then we can start over. I think I said it the wrong way around. You said that McCain is against aid giving any more aid to Egypt and Lieberman you said but then you meant Lindsey Graham is all for because of AIPAC? Yes That's what you said but now lets start Let me start over again yes please I had to write down my notes Okay, so Lieberman want you know I said it again. No it is Lieberman It's not Graham Oh So Liebermans in the picture Liebermans in the picture all right as part of a pack and then okay? So he's got to do that so he so he called Graham there we go okay now. I got it I got it straight now, so when a pack said no we had

1:33:03 You know what? Let me just forget this. And now I'm confused Well, let me before you drop it completely. Let me just say that if AIPAC says that we should be giving continue aid to Egypt That means my thesis that Mossad is behind this. That was the ultimate point of what I was saying but now can you confuse me with Lieberman and Graham and now i'm like scouring through my notes And I do see that former Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman said he disagreed with McCain and then AIPAC

1:33:39 said hold on a second we agree with McCain. So they don't want aid? No, no I you know what... This is funny i've never seen you break down like this yeah it's there's something there's something you lost your train of thought Yeah and but now i'm like desperately trying to read through 100 000 words and I just think I can move into Thursday. You may actually recover before the show's over I think the hell dog kicked in. I don't know Okay, the ultimate no

1:34:19 forget McCain, Lieberman. Forget everybody else the fact that AIPAC said we do not want to cut off aid is the important thing and the aid it's that is ultimately what I wanted come back to well let's face reality they didn't want a Muslim Brotherhood running in this country exactly exactly so they're are the ones behind this there no question which the president calls The Other Guys Yeah. He doesn't, I don't think he's in that speech you did...I didn't clip it or anything? I don't think he once said Muslim Brotherhood. He just called the other people the opposition Well he can't because that woman that is in his cabinet, the girlfriend of Hillary, Uma Thurman Uma Habedin And she is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and I think their whole place is plagued with these people

1:35:13 And Obama just listens to them, I don't know. He doesn't want to say anything bad about him. Okay, where I got confused...I think McCain is the one that flip-flopped Oh yeah that could be but he only does that for some kind of cheap extortion or something you didn't get a...you know he's lining his pockets for the future when it gets out of public office so he's gonna live to be 90 maybe 100 You think? Mom's still alive. As old as that guy is, his mom is still alive! How old is she? 90 plus 99 98 something like that well I plan on being 98 and she's still yeah but she's cognizant she's not like a dumb old 99 no I'm not planning on being a dumb 99 either. Well you can plan whatever you want

1:38:31 Oh you didn't get your pancakes? I didn't get my pancakes. She left Friday, she's in Napa Valley. She's on the road again?! She's in Napa Valley with Molly Wood. Aren't you getting a little suspicious of these two? I just keep saying send pictures and then I get a picture and it's Mickey next to his 65 Corvette Yeah, so they're up there looking at cars. What is going on with that? If they were gonna do that they should have gone to the Monterey Concourse d'Elegance which is like running I think this weekend Mickey says it's gotten really Vegas-y up in Napa Valley

1:39:11 Well, the smart money for one thing you don't if you're going to tour the area most of this more money goes to Sonoma County and cuts across to Calistoga across the mountains. And then comes down the Silverado Trail and you avoid Highway 29 for the most part then you do avoid all that One of the things that's going on up there, this creating this is Meadowood which is this three-star... Meadowood and French Laundry these two restaurants in the southern part of the valley have created this you know foodie thing in the area. And it's all southern, it's the outville area kind of that you want to avoid because it's just like filled with tourists and hoity-toities and elites Is that where you might find a 65 Corvette?

1:39:57 I'm sure. Here's the text message. It is probably in mint condition and owned by an elite. Here's what Mickey texted me, Napa is now Vegas very commercial sad how it has changed we're having a great time today were doing a hike and will lay at the pool they have a bowling alley here where the balls light up Okay, yes Okay I used to have a yo-yo that would do that. It's the same thing There's this little mechanism inside the centrifugal force yeah as soon as the ball rolls it lights up and flashes gotta love it dumb

1:40:34 So, yeah. No they're in that part of it is kind of splashy in that area but that's not the place you want to go and you can't even get going have a good wine tasting because there are so many people in an area you have to pay if you have to pay to taste wine at a winery Wow leave makes no sense does it now Anyway, well I'm glad they're having fun while you... Vegetate. The United States District Court District of Massachusetts released an interesting document the United States v Zohar Sarnef aka Jahar Sarni governments assented to motion for a protective order

1:41:21 And this is very interesting. Parties have agreed to the entry of a protective order attached, to ensure that discovery information is not unnecessarily disseminated... ...that sensitive information is filed under seal and that access controls are in place. Parties agree the attached order is in the interest of justice." The protective orders really weird they can actually destroy this stuff after both parties have seen it Defendants counsel shall not disclose materials or the contents directly or indirectly to any person Or entity other than the persons engaged To assist in the defense. You know, why is this all secret? Why can we not know about these horrible terrorists and And how they and whatever Whatever Materials that might be found I mean with why does it have to be secret? Why is that?

1:42:21 I don't know. Makes no sense unless the whole thing is rigged, it was what we expect or suspected at the very beginning an FBI six-week cycle thing gone astray yeah and by the way I am recounting that episode that was aborted this last... Oh no you have to reset the clock! We set the clock on that. That's what they're supposed to do And now they're gonna, they can't just do ad-lib something. So we have to go another six weeks which I believe would be... Let's take a look on the calendar. Get the calendar up. I understand from our contacts that there is a huge reorg going on right now at the FBI. Hold on second for five it'll be the week of 15th September. The Ides of September! Oh well you know what?

1:43:17 It's saving it for the second half. I'll tell you why don't we why don't we thank some people? It'll be sure anyway We do that then we want to play one of these little promotional things that show people that were not like this Okay, remind me though remind me. I have this 15th of September. I have something for that okay I put a big arrow next because I wrote in the book This was a there's the two-parter here. This is from Fox the great conservative Fox News and the five, the famous... And by the way they got Gilfoyle's not on so they put this other woman. It's a summer she's on vacation yeah the one that I don't care for she's kind of stupid and they have her in that spot with her legs. Her legs look like crap! Oh no! Get Guilfoyle back! Guilfoyle has these long standing beautiful thighs

1:44:09 beautiful cabs. This woman's got a lumpy crappy looking leg that is going to kill the show. Please people we're talking as television producers here not as John Adams. If I was Fox right now, They could have put Perino's got better looking legs in this one, but she's kind of short. I think he has short legs Yeah, exactly. Their legs aren't that long Unbelievable so this thing this is the odd editorial So then this guy Gutman who is actually a comic? I don't even know why he's got any creds at all for doing this stuff But he's he did apparently and I let this go past his little editorial into the kind of into the segment because one of the guys Who plays the liberal

1:44:52 He's funny, you'll hear the whole thing but you got this is a disgusting little editorial done for the purposes of nothing but an advertisement. But let's play it It's a horrible song. It is a great song, surprise you're dead! The biggest creeps on earth are those who claim to love it their love is really hate for people specifically poor people case in point Bjorn Lundberg he's a great greenie with the conscience he reports that activists in the Philippines have destroyed a field of golden rice that's rice thats genetically modified to contain vitamin A Of the three billion people who eat rice every day and are at risk for vitamin A deficiency, this new rice helps prevent nearly 700 thousand deaths a year and half-a million kids from going blind.

1:45:36 These activists are essentially accessory to mass murder. I say hang them by their toenails! These creeps operate from the evil notion that everything from Earth is good and everything made by man is bad it's an idea propagated by green journalists crusading against Monsanto, morose health editors and loopy celebrities who condemn vaccines for every media loudmouth who favors natural over man-made some poor peasant dies remember the DDT ban? A million babies won't because that ban allowed them from malaria. Thank the green movement! Natural is just the elite's way of saying, I'm better than you to the poor. Lucky for them they have no problems getting vitamin A their maids do all the shopping so while it's cool to push fake fear about genetically modified foods all it does is kill people celebrities march against Monsanto but they're really marching against progress and in service to their ego they turn a blind eye to the suffering of others whose actual blindness they cause

1:46:32 When did this get put in the show? What? This whole segment. I didn't know anything about it. You didn't read my, uh... When did they put this in? What are you talking about? Greg, I didn't know you were doing this! On what? This whole thing! Would this have changed anything?! No! You wouldn't have done any preparation! That was confusing. Well, so he has this editorial which I've never seen on this show the guy the one guy says what the hell is this you're doing because he was right because he read the script he didn't see it in there Right, it wasn't in the script. Perino knew about it and so she's on board and so she said no I was in a 1035 and this guy you know this Bob guy he doesn't...you know he got his whole script whatever He is kind of flabbergasted by the whole thing, he has got blindsided because they are doing this pro Monsanto thing. So obviously yeah

1:47:24 So it continues. Now this is the next clip, is the Fox idiots and they go on and there's one guy in the middle you can hear him and they're all stammering all of them when their because he got notes in front of him and they're looking down at the notes trying to make sense of the notes and they have points are trying to make and they're stumbling and stammering And it's all trying to make this point that Monsanto is great, represents progress and all the rest of it. I found this to be the weirdest thing on Fox. People point out oh somebody doesn't know something on Fox. I thought this was the most rigged segment. It was borderline disgusting

1:48:04 that I've ever seen on Fox is all for commercialism. Let's play this part. It's essentially dead thanks to facts and data, Bob. Do you feel like they're moving to genetically modified foods and going after Monsanto? It's really crazy. They're enviro-terrorists. They'll do anything. They are holding up fracking projects for environmental reasons and it's bringing jobs in the area. Genetically modified agriculture could save the world. Honestly, and the other part is almost all of our corn seed, almost all of our soybean seeds are already genetically modified so they're a little late to this ballgame, to this dance but genetically modified agriculture is going to bring

1:48:44 food to starving areas around the world. Do you think the world would be better off without environmentalists? Yes! I think the world will be better off with genetically modified agriculture because they can't afford it right now, they need to produce more so that we can bring prices down. And you have to have...I can't remember the name of a company and it's an American company that figured out how to inject protein into wheat so that if you, if that was the only thing you had to eat that day then actually were getting a more balanced nutrition because of it and actually its scientists who are actually helping uh... absolutely and I don't think they have any proof about on environmental concerns they just are worried about it yeah by the way people starve there are

1:49:26 Was that the most amazing thing you've heard? I mean, and they're all looking down by the way trying to look for bullet points. And they can't ad-lib! I think they're looking for their checks Well that too, but it was like I've never seen a shameless promotion and everybody was in on it except the one guy. Yeah. Because he wasn't gonna go for it I guess or they didn't think he would do it? I don't know what the reason they left the one guy out for and It was just astonishing to me and for Reno oh they've injected protein What is she talking about? I love it, like if you don't eat genetically modified food you go blind and die or something. That was kind of what got me with this whole thing Wow that's pretty astounding Well we don't do that No! I'm 11 and even I can spot a douchebag Exactly I'm gonna show my some moves by donating to NO AGENDA Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA

1:50:31 No, we... that's not how we operate and uh.. We can't operate that way. First of all because neither of us have the legs for the job So with that just a non-starter right there Even though I am wearing my man dress and they are protruding proudly beneath the dress but no. Yes! You got a visual? Big boy? Man dresses are cool We already know how you're gonna end up. So... Uh, let me see overdose? No Well well how am I going to end up? Wearing a dress for real Okay Mac, I want to thank a few people You're already wearing the dress Yeah Man she's not here maybe you know I feel so much more comfortable in the dress My wife bought me and bought me the dress Oh that tells ya something there right there yeah

1:51:28 Wait until she okay Mac tank. There's a million possibilities ways to go with that one don't even try Mac tank in La Jolla, California 175 bucks hey gents top-notch show last week keep them coming please ask John to tap out Morse code for lol on this clickety clack keyboard That was itm that you did and he didn't do lol Oh, that's what I thought it meant. Sir Victor Gregg at 8888 in the Cater Georgia. Belated 88 for John and Mimi. Ah, that's nice! I think Mimi and Mickey should have their own show on the Norwegianda Network. Oh yeah... Sure. Yeah they've never even met this is actually quite a atrocity It would also be great if you could record and post the producer after shows

1:52:22 We're not in charge of that. Yeah, it's none of our business. Nicholas Oman 7777 a thief River Falls Minnesota he needs some house selling karma I will give him that because we might get another donation you've got karma Thomas Borowski and Obing Deutschland 7733 and he says he commutes to Munich three times Which is probably on a fast train and it's gotta be long distance he's going. And because of Norwegian I actually look forward to my commute! You know, I've been in touch with Molly Wood just because Mickey was going out there etc... And she says the show has changed my commute

1:53:14 Because yeah, I think she listened to a recent episode. Like what do you mean? She said no i'm actually in the slow lane 30 minutes longer to get into San Francisco and enjoying it. Molly Wood? Yeah! She listens to the show? Well she did recently huh...I think probably because you know Mickey then they're gonna be hanging out and doing whatever girls do when they're together And uh you know she might well know something about me Yeah, so hey that guy you're married to he wears dresses really That's so sexy. Brian Gilbert in Trona, California $75 and then we go to 69! 69 dudes! For 69 guys Brian Brown Orange California Black Knight Brian Barrow and Wooten Bassett UK Sam Menner in Box Hill South Victoria Australia Jeffrey Maxwell Cranberry Township Pennsylvania

1:54:19 The Viscount of Marin, Michael Miller in Tiburon 69-69 and he says thank you for not selling iodine. Gregory Ball of Walzend UK and finally Patrick Vaughn in Traverse City 69! 69 dudes! He says he got his night ring and so he's actually Sir Patrick Vaughn. We don't know if that is ever going to come to fruition. I think he will get the database fixed. Please de-douche the entire No Agenda back office. You've been de-douched! I did want to mention something. Austin is home to the Infowars craziness

1:55:08 And about the iodine thing, because I was in the car and driving around. I was driving back from the airport so we actually have Alex Jones on the radio here And I swear to God, I heard a 20 minute segment. 20 minutes which included Mike the Power Ranger or the Health Ranger from Natural Products whatever also in Austin and it started off with genetically modified crazy crap man put them... we looked at the health ranger labs and then we looked at McNuggets and there's no chicken in the McNuggets And then it was 20 minutes and all led up to... There's no chicken in McNuggets, that's bull. I'm telling you and it led up to 20 minutes of this! 20 minutes about the food and the payoff was a water filter commercial. I'm telling you people are being fleeced

1:55:56 Don't listen to that. Let's go to Costco. But he does it well by the way, you're like oh yeah GM... Oh no there is no... We are not questioning the professionalism of sales pitch Yeah but the pitch is fantastic but its a sales pitch! Yeah the whole show is. So anyway back to work We have Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York 6666 Heather Simpkin and Henley on Thames Oxfordshire. It's beautiful there! Okay it is really nice. And she says love from Heather. Yes Heathers send pictures. Send pictures according to Adam yes but you know I never get these pictures no that's Heather Simpkin Adam Mikulacek I'm guessing

1:56:39 or Michael I check mccollide check 6666 in ithaca New York my Michael Maya Tico My tico, I'm thinking milk in Ontario Canada. He needs a birthday shot We got on the list yep Stephen Nelson wheat Ridge, Florida feet with Ridge Colorado Brian curry your relative out there in canal British Columbia probably pronounced quesnel I you know I so he's friends with another one of our producers and he said hey you know you mentioned on the show that if anyone's name was Curry do an email forward for them any requested that for Brian and i did it

1:57:21 So Brian at curry.com will go to him? Yeah, that's good. Come on, we'll have a whole club of them. Michael Gayes Colorado Springs 50 these are all 50 Andrew Haverson Gravenhurst Ontario Josh McDonald Brunswick Victoria Kyle Bauer in Worcester Ohio Phillip Meason in Pauze UK and finally Mark Tanner and Whittier and Rob K from Parts Unknown, I have a note from him that i do want to read because it came in as a mail. I was hit in the mouth last October. Shout out to Doug F and finally got around to contributing value for value for the best podcast in the universe, sorry for the small amount but I'm working four jobs pursuing my American dream of just getting by." No no that's your bargain baby! That's your middle class bargain right there. Four jobs thanks for all the work you do... this is a line I liked Thanks for all the work you do to package the bitter taste of the truth

1:58:20 In a manageable and entertaining format. Packaging the bitter truth since 2007. The bitter taste of the truth. Oh, packaging the bitter... The bitter taste. Nice! Packaging the bitter taste of the truth since 2006 We do have another note here that I have to read is it got a postcard and a bunch of photos of some screwball area called Swabishgemund or Gemund Mario sent this note in and he doesn't want to let anyone know who he is. Good work! It's a test, it says it's the test for the honest postman and he's the one who sent the 15 euros in cash which I'll put in the bank as such and that little bitty 5 euro note which was so small

1:59:13 Thinking that the euro is becoming this moral equivalent of the ruble. The euro, the ruble of the future! So anyway, we want to thank these folks. That's it? Yeah that's all we got. We're done. Well we do have some birthdays and two nightings of course we have an instant night today also Robert Montaya who did come in with his donation on the previous show which brought him up to knighthood so I'm gonna get you that Thank y'all very much! We could do with more but as John said is probably tough so we understand You've got that bargain A middle class bargain. Yeah, Obama's not helping the show. Not really.

1:59:58 And Michael my addicose says happy birthday to his son Mason who turns five today and Todd LG congratulates Henry who turned seven Isabella she turned five on the 15th Henry is celebrating his seventh birthday today. Happy birthday from your uncles Adam and John here at the no agenda show Cease-and-desist of Oreck Harmonica it's the wrong key for the birthday song Just pick up your sword stuck You know can you come up with a new one once and at once in every hundred episodes? Yes, say something else like I'm glad you asked. I sharpened it right here Little creativity

2:00:56 Alexander Bersanu. Step forward please, along with Robert Montaya Both of you gentlemen have contributed to the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more In fact, Alexander has contributed significantly more And thank you so much and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Alexandru and Sir Robert both knights of the Noah's inner round table. Gentlemen, for you we've got quite a trip of hookers & blow rippers in Chardonnay hot pants & boot long haired heavy metal with scotch winch to beaver minutes whenever there was a mutton to mead Good! Yeah Dvorak dot org slash NA we're flatlining here We gotta pick it up You have an anniversary coming up? We can start promoting that i guess since its October What is our anniversary honey

2:01:41 Sixth which is I believe to be the paper mache anniversary Right and what is the date of our paper mache? Let's see. I don't know Offhand isn't October. I don't know where it is somebody knows yeah, no agenda nation knows Yeah, let me go do it and check it out No agenda nation Dot-com you go there and you click on archive, and then it says archives And then you scroll down to the first show which is really not that good to listen to people listen do it I don't know why now. It turns out to be on October 26th

2:02:22 We did that show and then it was a weekly show. Yeah, for awhile. It was 30 minutes and we had no jingles. The first show is 37 minutes the second show is 34 minutes the third show is 37 minutes then it's 42, bump to 42 went back to 33 39 40 then boom out of the blue for no apparent reason 68 minutes! And what what was the date on that one? That was on December 15th What year? 2007 So we struggled along with these hour-long shows and they continue, one bumped up to 73 minutes went back to 53 the next show. I think we just go back 30 minutes i think it's a great plan

2:03:01 Well, for this kind of income maybe. It didn't bounce again we had another bounce up and under the vasectomy show in issue 23 the 90 minutes and we kept on the 90 minute theme for a while. For a while yeah. 90 minutes and then we dropped back to 60 this is interesting I don't remember this but... All right let's move on. Oh sorry. Yeah. I get carried away with analysis You do you Now, what would... A chart would be useful. Now do you remember what you were supposed to do? Yes I have a big arrow You are going to talk about September 15th Right so now let's back this up for second because we have We know from our inside sources and the FBI is reorging right now Because they've missed their six-week deadline three times in a row Well they did... It started with the Boston bombing Aborted mission Well it started with the Boston bombing which wasn't theirs

2:03:57 Right. That's what messed it up, so they didn't get to take credit so they went around shooting people in the back of their head which is fact you know they went around driving over people killing people now there like you know we've got court cases where we can show the evidence all kinds weirdness going on with that Then it just went from from bad to worse We had the the plane crash messed that all up. The San Francisco plane crash was another six six week episode But it wasn't it wasn't planned by them The whole point is they need to do something every 6 weeks Otherwise than at the budgets dry up and now it's been three six weeks periods in a row and now there's a reorg going on

2:04:40 Well, we had that boarded thing. It was a test. It was that crazy thing that took place I forgot the couple of days ago like Sunday last Sunday The reason you know six weeks we decided because we saw the pattern is because people will forget And they won't be so jacked. You know, you got to keep reminding them and six weeks looks like a good kind of time frame to keep reminding people and they can remember so they won't spot the cycle anyway that's my thinking but they gotta do something right go on what did you show something gonna happen on the 15th? Yeah around mid-September and that would end what was your date 11th no not the eleventh 15th okay so it's not going to be the eleven because I'll be September 11 we know nothing is gonna happen

2:05:27 because nothing ever does happen except a you know, kidnapping in Benghazi minor stuff. There may be something that's actually instituted instigated I'm sorry by some bad guy who thinks September 11th is a cool time to do something but and that could be thwarted that would be good maybe the eleventh is only four days off it might be a good day to do something well what supposed to happen is the kill shot What's the kill shot? The kill shot is and now you're gonna start reading about this more and more. We're in the middle of a solar maximum, and we have in fact just yesterday we had an M I think was an m3 or an m4 so there's a there's a CMA a coronal mass ejection which is once again uh um we're passing through it now so near the ham radio was pretty much dead at the moment

2:06:19 The kill shot is, and so we're not sure if it's going to be blamed on solar activity or if it actually will be solar activity. But we're going to have such a massive event that this is the one that is going... It's gonna be EMP and this is going to fry the electronics shut it all down This is what you know the FEMA has been waiting for DHS has been buying up all the ammo for This is the big one And that's supposed to happen somewhere that week of the 15th of September. Killshot, The Killshot. Where'd you get this? Sources. Sources! What crackpot website did you get this? Sources Uh-huh

2:07:05 It's not just a website. I have my... Okay? Yeah, you know how you do it. You get these guys who read the websites for you and then they report in but okay. They don't read the websites for me and report in! No we have our own. Hey listen, I'm gonna have a Faraday cage and in that Faraday cage I will have a number of things that I want to be working Well, you know these things is not doesn't envelop the entire earth when you have a run just in case I'm gonna have my yesu ft817 in there because you know that'll that'll have communications Yeah, probably not a bad idea to keep a ham radio in a Faraday cage anyway. Yeah Can it can it just be a lead box? You have to build a little that box is fine Okay, no fair day cage who can breathe

2:07:58 I'm not gonna sit in the cage it's just for the ham radio. No, lead box is great but a lead box? Please! All you need is some copper foil and there's actually some new material that comes up my wallets made with this stuff and signals can't get out of it So if you get a passport card which I've been meaning to get for going to Canada It's easiest way to get across the border How about just using your passport Well, you dragging your passport around is not really... Oh! John why are you limping? I'm carrying my passport around. It's so heavy. Okay, okay, I know what you're saying but i just think you know why drag around a big old document like that? Oh it's so big the document is like oh wait a minute oh sorry man i didn't mean to hurt you with my passport

2:08:53 Well, I'm glad to see that you're on some sort of a sarcastic roll here and you think it's hilarious. Well, I'm doing a Dvorak actually it's role reversal which is kind of weird. Yeah, I've noticed this but anyway so... That's why I appreciate him! I am actually in awe at how funny you are. It's kind of twisted? What is wrong with this picture?! So anyway the point is when you get the passport card they put it in a little Faraday cage and it's this material that you can get, I guess you can buy it. And you can actually just use this stuff instead of generally speaking a good Faraday cage is copper stuff with little holes in it have ever seen this the stuff? Yeah, yeah of course It resists all kinds of things but yeah no anything metal just metal box Metal! Just has to be metal? Well no if you don't want steel No that doesn't make sense So there has to be some sort

2:09:48 Metal that doesn't allow our RF to pass right so okay because the Transceiver itself is in a metal casing, but that's not going to be enough right has to be okay Well let's go back to this this idea So then what so we have a big event boom blows out a bunch of transformers takes the satellite communications down Blows up the Google The whole net goes down. Let's say it happens really bad and the net goes over what happened? So now what I What's your point? How is this going to affect anything. No, okay it won't affect anything then. I'm just asking what do you think is gonna be the fallout are they gonna call it martial law depend well depends are they gonna start rounding people up yeah gays and gypsies first and guys dudes in dresses

2:10:44 Well that would be on the top of my list. Now the funny thing about this story is really quite funny, apparently this came from Snowden! You see everything now... What? Oh yeah it didn't obviously John come on Everything comes from Snowden now I mean obviously it didn't but its important because let me just want to get on the Snowden thing for a second cause there's alot going on First of all, you can pretty much check it right off the list. We were talking about Snowden's dad and that I didn't think it is his dad the guy who was coming out saying oh I know who apparently has a visa to go to Russia to see him and so now Snowden sends this whole thing stinks Snowden sends an email to The Huffington Post yeah because apparently Glenn Greenwald no good anymore

2:11:40 What? Yeah, you didn't- That's bullcrap. Oh, well... this got picked up pretty big. Pretty wild. I think your initial observation is Glenn Greenwald's no good anymore so he's sending a just blowing of a quickie email to the Huffington Post of all publications? Yep and he's saying because you remember and i also said look out for this lawyer there's Bruce Fine this guy like yeah we've talked about him right so Snowden says I've been fortunate to have legal advice, no not here. The National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden wants to set the record straight after individuals associated with his father have in his words misled journalists into printing false claims about his situation

2:12:32 In an emailed statement to the Huffington Post, Snowden said that neither his father Lon Snowden, his father's lawyer Bruce Fine nor Fine's wife Maddie Fine represent me in any way. None of them have been or are involved in my current situation and this will not change in the future, Snowden said of his father and the Fines I asked journalists to understand that they do not possess any special knowledge regarding my situation or future plans and not to exploit the tragic vacuum of my father's emotional compromise for the sake of tabloid news. Hello? That's rather explosive, I would say! What is it you think it means?!

2:13:16 Well, he... well this is these are the camps that are involved and Fein is you know he represents entire countries. You know this guy's a kook And I think my initial reaction was, you know these are spooks trying to get to him. They're on some team that's not necessarily his team posing as his dad and this is his way of going hold on back off You know he-I don't think it can say hey i'm on this team and the other teams coming over to kill me So this is how it's done and he needs to get really, you know just giving it to Glenn Greenwald. You can't... Glenn's no good anymore I mean that... No, Glenzaw has got his own agenda He's got whatever documents he wanted Yeah He doesn't give a shit about this guy And he's going to just promote the Glenn Greenwald brand Yeah, brand and his lords which I think is...I said incorrectly MI6 but its MI5 Now as I'm so I'm looking through this Which is part of the same Well yeah

2:14:16 Unlike us, they're a continuum. It's like the FBI is MI5 only there are spooks and the MI6 is the international group but they're actually all in this kind of... you move from one to the other rather easily less so with the FBI and CIA until recently when they were moving these guys from FBI to CIA to Defense Department it's like now its musical chairs So here, so if you look at this Bruce Fine guy is very very very interesting. He was also a legal advisor for the Ron Paul 2012 presidential campaign probably helped tank it

2:14:53 Now that I think about it. Actually when we were analyzing the campaign early on, we had discussed that possibility that he was there to screw up the campaign so if you fail... Was that fine? Who are talking about? Well we're talking about somebody He is represented as a lobbyist Pakistan Sudan Turkey Tamil Um... Tamil? Yeah. As in the Tamil Tigers? Yeah, yeah but it's not a country it's a group of terrorists I didn't say country that's just a list like he represents terrorists exactly So it's a very interesting guy. There's a couple of links in the show notes so you can, I mean we were on to him right away that this guy is no good and his whole legal practice seems to be sketchy at best. So i'm looking around and I find some pretty interesting things. Snowden as the story goes

2:15:52 He didn't reach out to Glenn Greenwald. It turns out that Greenwald actually wasn't even interested I think... do i have this? Poitras said that, and Greenwald has admitted to this, that he was approached a month earlier Here I have it so now there's this Moss guy we talked about the Moss guy who all of a sudden is in the picture as one reporting on the situation and here and this is actually the clip that led me to some research It was really interesting and really unique. He chose them not because they work for the biggest publications in the world, which neither one of them do... he chose them because they had similar political sympathies, similar ideas that he had and in particular with Laura Poitras. He knew that she had been under surveillance herself and that she was probably capable of conducting encrypted communications which he required. He actually tried to contact Glenn Greenwald initially first

2:16:48 But Greenwald didn't have encrypted communications and didn't really kind of want to get up to speed on that, so just kind of ignored Snowden's requests. And so he went to Poitras and Poitras who has been under surveillance has been stopped at airports more than 40 times who is working on a film about surveillance and who is leading a very encrypted kind of life she was able to offer the encryption and security that Snowden required in order to be able to disclose the NSA files. Now that's only part of the story because Poitras and I've written again all this is laid out in the show notes what you should about me saying you should use her name properly Laura Poitras? No, it's Laura Poitras stopped at airports 40 times that's her full name. Laura Poitras stopped at airport forty times she went to Applebaum

2:17:37 Now Applebaum is the guy who is behind, you know the creation of the great Compromise Tour Network and also was the guy who all of a sudden popped on the scene as spokesperson for Julian Assange. And you'll recall that he was already involved two years ago in a documentary with Laura Poitras Stopped at The Airport 40 Times So she went to him, and these people are all connected and I'm going to tell you how in a second. She went to him and said alright yeah we've got to figure out if this guy is for real And Applebaum went oh! I know how to do that We'll ask him some questions on the secure encrypted connection and i'll know if he's for real

2:18:20 And I have a copy of these questions, which... These questions have no bearing on whether the guy is for real or not. But i'll give you 10 of them Are German authorities are German politicians involved in the NSA surveillance system? If details about this system are now exposed who will be charged? Did the NSA help to create Stuxnet What are some of the big surveillance programs that are active today and how do international partners aid the NSA? Follow up, is there a way of circumventing that? Tor. Do the NSA and its partners across the globe to full dragnet data collection for telephone calls text and data The NSA is building a massive new datacenter in Utah what is it's purpose I mean really I could answer these questions Do private companies help the NSA? Hello

2:19:12 Are there companies that refuse to cooperate with the NSA? What websites should a person avoid if they don't want to get targeted by the NSA and, uh... The last one I have. What happens after the NSA targets a user? So okay so like these are pretty dumb questions but okay you know we'll just whatever will go with it now and now this Laura Poitras stopped 40 times Now she's very irritating to me And her whole persona, the pictures... and now she's kind of floating out there. She says she wants to be really low-key but she has all these really styled... Her looking out the window black and white pictures. Yeah now these are all pro shots! Totally pro totally style There is no camera phone pictures here we're involved with Now I really went down and did some deep searching No selfies! Selfies exactly

2:20:05 And I've been looking at who's been financing her. And I find that she has been financed through a grant from Rebecca Lichtenfeld, who represents the Bertha Foundation. Remember the Bertha Foundation John? Yeah they come up in the conversation about once every six months So the Bertha foundation finances IDFA the independent uh... i have to be a the independent not that you had your faith in the documentary film association but also the um... birth of the the brit documentaries britdoc the brit doc funds and they have directly financed laura portraits

2:21:06 I'll remind you that we have not just the financing of Laura Poitras' Stop 40 Times getting into the country, but they have also provided the legal representative for WikiLeaks. Remember Jennifer Robinson? Right. Jennifer Robinson is Julian Assange's and WikiLeaks' lawyer, a reading from the Book of Knowledge an Australian human rights lawyer she is the legal director for The Bertha Foundation in London and the adjunct lecturer at The University of Sydney Law School And since 2010 Robinson has been a member of legal team representing Assange & WikiLeaks in London

2:21:45 Now, now Assange and Wikileaks you know if they even have a if you go to wikileaks.org or you can see they have a legal defense fund for Snowden yeah they've raised $12,000 or some you know ridiculously low amount because no one cares! Everyone's got a big mouth but no one actually cares to help them out and they're probably right because this Bertha Foundation... They are financing Link TV? Are you familiar with linkTV? Yeah, and there's an interesting story going on around Link TV. I get some clips there once in a while. Tell me. Well apparently they have a management crisis so they've fired most of their people and they're gonna replace them with interns which probably unpaid interns which is essentially illegal once you understand the mechanism of interns and what now they're cracking down on this and what do you bring about your interns in? You make him do real work

2:22:39 and then they can sue you, and the courts will give them all the money that you owed them. And so Link TV is essentially at this moment as we do this show seemingly coming apart at the seams but they essentially are extremely left-wing, alternative to free speech TV with many of the same programs. But most of the stuff on LinkTV are documentaries and I assume that the documentaries that are funneled from these people. So she so The Bertha Foundation also funded that Jeremy Scahill Dirty Wars... Dirty Wars movie. Jeremy Scahill yeah they are okay

2:23:20 Now, here's what I want you to do. If you go to the Bertha Foundation website... Go to berthafoundation.org. You cannot find out anything about them. Believe me, as you've been speaking and both of us have done this. I worked for hours and you cannot find out anything. And I said, you know at Bertha FN or whatever. I said where's your money from? Who is financing you? You know the CEO was this chick Laura Tabatsnick who is just a front she's like some party girl from New York She lives in a million dollar condo In Brooklyn Heights, you know She's registered on their website but she's an unknown knock. She didn't nothing and nobody

2:24:07 Nudnik. A nugg-nick, nugg-nick whatever so but these guys are there's millions and millions of dollars they also finance the Center for Constitutional Rights they've and they're mentioned in the a familiar with the Center for Constitutional Rights The CCR? Not offhand. And all of these foundations, they all have about seven million dollars in revenue between 7 and 10 million dollars annually I looked at all the Form 990s and they know they do big scholarships so there is millions and millions of dollars now by the way i'm not against it because I think you know these documentaries some of them that they've been financing are well worthwhile they sponsor...they are the BritDoc

2:24:50 Financers, that's a lot of money that is going on there. If you go to the wiki page and try to find the Bertha Foundation it redirects you to BritDoc. Now look at the logo of the Bertha Foundation John Right its the B with whatever its just like as a decorative... But they've changed this logo recently Oh. Go to betweenthelinefest.com BetweentheLinesFest.com Okay, hang on... You're gonna like this. When you get off in the deep end here this is all good stuff! Yeah. Okay here we go So this is a documentary film fest that they financed You there? Between The Lines? Yeah I'm there Click on video On the menu there, video

2:25:46 Video you get a whole bunch now at the bottom of this page by the way they have the new logo No, that's the old logo John and look at it. Look at the logo What does it look like? It's no longer the little pretty flower this looks like a gear yeah Symbolism my friend goat now go go to Google and type in images for communist images Check it out They all have gears It's all like a circle gear with, of course they got the hammer and sickle on here. They have a big B in the middle. Symbolism matters so I think somehow there is some... Wait wait you're thinking this is a Russian front? I don't know if it's Russian. It could be any kind of...it would make sense because... You know Russia by the way let's make one thing clear even though as libertarian and the rest of us we are on this show

2:26:44 As amenable we are as we are to all sorts of things the Russians Are notorious? Historically for setting up these operations all over the place and hiding they their connection to them I mean this is a well-established Expertise that the Russians have developed. We do it too but You know, it's different because if you were doing the No Agenda show in Russia and we're Russian... We have eagles and arrows and stars. And we have our own little things but now every single play there are touch points of all these people WikiLeaks Snowden It all comes back to this Bertha Foundation

2:27:35 There's scant little... Zero! You cannot, you know. We must have we have people in the intelligence community that can surely send us some insight into this Well the end you know it's it's even unclear if they're located in South Africa or if they're in the United Kingdom Yeah Here's something. I didn't want to do it, Homer, who is berthafoundation.org So this nutnik... What's her name? Laura Tabasnek is on the Who Is record and she has a New York cell phone listed You might want to try call that and just say hey where did your money come from

2:28:24 But it makes no sense that some chick who lives at 70 Washington Street, Penthouse in Brooklyn registered runs and owns this entire thing. I mean no! It's just not true. That doesn't make any sense and the only thing you can find on her... How do you spell her last name? She's gonna get the LA you are a yeah tango alpha Bravo Alpha Tango Zulu November India kilo Tabat Snick You're not gonna get any further knighted which is you know, you'd get the video of her But we played the video in the Laura Lara. Yeah I've heard no just talking some crap about how she helped some poor kids in Africa at once and

2:29:11 Yeah, I'm looking at her. It's nothing it's it's don't even it's not even worth playing There's no information on this entire outfit But you get everyone to know all these these nonprofits like a representative from the Bertha Foundation came to talk to us and said we're going To match your funds but they don't mention who is like this stealth organization With and they change their logo from gears to flower fascinating It is. But a dead end, which makes it even more interesting! For me it's frustrating because it's a dead end exactly Well there's no such thing as a dead end So the only other... you can kind of see how it fits together Remember we saw Harry Belafonte quotes on the Bertha Foundation website? Harry Belafonte by the way who admits that he's a communist No he's a Communist Communist He's not like a Communist Communist

2:30:09 He's a communist. What does that mean? It means he is not like the guy who says he is a commie, it's not like... He's an actual commie?! He's not like these guys who have a communist kind of thing, he's a real communist and he's serious communist I mean..I don't think there's anything wrong with that necessarily No! Not at all! It's in a free society there's nothing wrong with it but let's be honest about it, he's not working for your best interest necessarily And then you have Rebecca Lichtenfeld and she is in charge of... so she did the documentary with Peter Gabriel which is how Peter Gabriel got involved with The Bertha Foundation. Remember, Peter Gabriel's quotes are also on the website So Rebecca Lichtenfeld, she is a producer Let's see She also produced Dirty Wars! Oh gee How coincidental? The real world of Peter Gabriel

2:31:09 And oh no, she got special thanks for Dirty Wars. Yeah! Special thanks because she's the one that helped finance it and she makes all the choices for the Bertha... has a specific GoodPitch here hold on a second goodpitch.org Rebecca Lichtenfeld I managed the media portfolio for Bertha Philanthropies as a new name which advises The Bertha Foundation We believe that the media has the power to inform, educate and inspire action. And so they also give money to The Sundance Institute So I like this a lot because here's clearly some ideological outfit hiding behind essentially a website and a couple of dorky looking chicks... ...and they are financing anti-American media

2:32:11 or anti-american messaging, or philosophy... Well we don't know. No no we do know! Dirty Wars is saying America sucks and it's good it's true It's true they're you know of WikiLeaks they're financing literally financing their legal help But what we don't know this I guess think this was the point I was trying to make subtly I think what we don't know is there actual motivation Well, I'm just guessing looking at the symbolism and who they're working with that it's a it feels like it could be A you know Could be Russian. Yeah Russian and it would make sense because you know we're embarrassing the Russians the Russians are embarrassing us Yeah, so wait that's what we do this is the new form of cyber war right? Yeah yeah well You know if I was Putin I'd be doing I mean be given the green light to all these things

2:33:08 Now I will say that, I think something some real crap is going on that is not being reported and that is... Well let me say this before you finish discussing the Bertha Foundation per se. When you have a... I'm done with Bertha but go ahead. When you're hiding yourself to this extent it would obviously..I'm just guessing by we put in The Red Book But I would guess if the actual guy behind this which could be Soros Could the act because he's you know who knows what he's up to but the but the guy behind it The big money there's a money bags guy behind this whole thing. It's not a bunch of people given ten bucks Let's face it There's a big pot of money if some guys got if we knew who it was, it would destroy the operation let me Google Bertha Soros I mean Bert the name Bertha is the giveaway But we just don't understand with the clue is

2:34:05 No, I agree with that too. In fact, I was googling Bertha to try to find some you know because it's like these It's like mobbed up places they can't They cannot open an operation that's legitimate and... No, of course not. Without giving you a hint we had one down the street here and it was massive, it was like Best Buy all over the state of California And it was great place to shop beautiful big stores and it was called White Front And yeah, good one. Then they finally busted him and it was all mobbed up a bunch of guys in protective custody by the way and you heard the name again? You oh how obvious funny that's funny anyway so I would assume Bertha is referring to someone probably I would start looking at maybe so famous Soviet women

2:35:04 of some sort. I don't know... Is Bertha, like it's not a Soviet name is it? Oh I would think so Really? Bertha! Bertha. Bertha. Female- Germanic from Old High German bertha meaning bright one oh wow It's code man there's some cool code going on No it IS code The name occurs as a theonym, surviving as Berchta, a figure in Alpine folklore connected to the wild hunt. Probably an epithet of something else. Bertha appears as a Frankish given name as early as the 6th century, the Germanic Bertha

2:35:42 a given name may however not originate with the theonym but rather as a short form of the diathemic given names including the bright element. This is notably the case with the mother of Charlemagne Bertrada called Bertha Broadfoot Carolingian use of the name Bertha as in Bertha daughter of Charlemagne and birthed daughter of Lothar II are in this tradition." What do you what Well, Charlemagne's a big deal. It's the Illuminati man! There is definitely something in here that's a joke it's-it's a gag and we just have to figure out what the gag is

2:36:27 But it's like, you know the 33 meme we have. We've been talking about this for seven years... Yeah but this is a little different John. The Bertha Foundation is all over WikiLeaks Snowden Poitras everything I mean come on! Yeah but that doesn't mean we can discover the punchline to the name No but we have a lot of people listening to this show Yeah, somebody might just say it. I mean give it to us but we haven't got a lot of people listening to this show and can't get 33 out of them. They know there's something involved with the stock market. Bertha Krupp... There are a lot of Berthas. I'll look at this list and see if there is anything that rings a bell. Birth of Savoy

2:37:09 We had a gun called the Big Bertha. Yeah, it could be some kind of play on that Hey I made a mistake! I misread something No...I read it properly but I misunderstood what was happening Remember when we were talking about Gazprom doing a deal with Azerbaijan and what was going on with that? So Gazprom is buying from Azerbaijan and today I kind of was helped along and I figured out Mr. Oil actually helped me with a couple of pointers so the the Azerbaijan gas company wound up buying 66% of Greece's Desva this happened a couple weeks ago

2:37:58 And this is important because there's a pipeline called the TAP, the Trans Adriatic Pipeline. And this thing is competing directly with Russia's South Stream And brand new information is that both BP and Total have now bought into this, this happened just this week. Have now bought each 20% stake in the Trans Adriatic Pipeline and this is all about getting gas to Europe And so they've effectively, the Nabucco pipeline is dead but they've effectively cut off Gazprom and this thing goes to the Caspian Sea. Right now there's a huge fire in the Caspian oil field and there are already rumors that it may be a strike from the Russians trying to slow this down so that they can compete with their South Stream Pipeline

2:39:03 And so this, you know it's mysterious. It's kind of like a the you know like one of what happened in the Gulf here. This is...it's real fire and I think they got everybody off. You don't know if there's any if anyone has been hurt or not And so this race is now ongoing and I think what Putin tried to do or what Gazprom tried to do, is try to buy away some of the gas from Azerbaijan. Try to either raise the price or you know try to compete somehow but it's not working out and now we have sabotage potential sabotage taking place in the Caspian field which is part of the trans-Adriatic pipeline

2:39:49 I'm going to make a prediction based on. I'm just going to think that Skeptically as I do, I'm going to think that may actually or pessimistically that made that maybe sabotage There may be the real real war maybe going on here I'm going to say that we are going to have some real real crap coming down in Turkey because this is the only place where everybody plays and Well, there is a thing going on in Egypt which I have one short clip of describing some of it. It's a mess! A mess... killing hundreds of people literally and we don't know but i'm looking into it yeah well they got good footage let's put that way I think this photoshopped uh... but anyway the all hell breaking loose and the Muslim Brotherhood is getting a lot of attention for itself and it turns out there are other countries where their

2:40:43 protesting which has nothing to do with these I don't, I never do get these aliens that protested at the San Francisco City Hall for example. What is the point of that? The big numbers there was the guys who are really up in arms us at least according to the reports I've seen and I believe it to be true because i know they're got to be the next target for this kind of coup is Turkey! They're huge right now hell's breaking loose in Turkey so check it out The total BP American Hillary Clinton backed TAP line, it goes through Turkey. Then they go through Albania and from Albania it's going into Italy but all goes through Greece first and now they own that so its all going to Greece the Gazprom South Stream

2:41:35 circumvent all of that but they also go through Turkey and so we have the two competing lines both going through Turkey to me it's like this is the perfect opportunity someone's got to blow something up or if you gotta have some kind of terrorism I'm just saying it's gonna be Turkey that is where it has to happen. Well, that'll be interesting and now we still haven't seen the fruition economic hitman's assertion that we're gonna do some major, major embargo of some sort against the Russians and that still in play. So don't know somethings up well a lot is up and it just seems good that you know all the Middle East is crap you know it's like it's all falling apart

2:42:27 And then yeah, no one's gonna be paying attention to what's happening up a little north But if it really starts happening if this you know bogative terrorism occupation pipeline Blowing up killing people business moves to Turkey not too long before. It's in Europe and it can be Greece it can be Italy they could be North it could be Austria that's where a lot of these pipelines the Russians like to terminate their pipelines and in Austria to get into Europe and You know, within a couple years we could have the so-called Al Qaeda on the Austrian peninsula. Well Europe is ripe I mean if you take it again and buy into all the footage that I've seen all over Egypt of

2:43:18 Muslim Brotherhood people complaining and getting killed in the process. They say they want to die so it seems like a kind of weird irony there but let's just say that these are legit, if these protests are legit it is because they have 25% of the Egyptian population If you can get 25 percent of the population of any country to riot in the streets, you have a...you've got problems on your hands because you cannot manage that. In Europe with all the number of I would say conservative Muslims that are there and especially in France if you could get the entire population of these people to riot in the streets and especially with the European governments being the way they are I think they could take over the place

2:44:10 And it wouldn't be the first time. Where have I seen this attempted before? Let me think, um... W-W something Oh yeah! World War So actually goes back to the Crusades Pre-Crusades when the Muslims actually took over most of the southern part of all Europe But uh... and they keep talking and here's a joke of it It's not as though you know well most Muslims would have nothing to do with this but The ones, there's enough of them that do. It's a huge number and they keep talking about doing this it's not as though anyone wasn't given fair warning when these guys get up in front of their audience and start yelling about creating the new caliphate Do we think that they're just joking? Are they just looking for the big yuck I mean i don't see why We don't take this more seriously if they are saying this What we do is look at him and go well he's just an extremist guy

2:45:07 You know, but why is he such a big audience? I'm one of my... well not my best friend but certainly very good acquaintance and someone I work with was killed on these very pretense by crazy Muslim Theo van Gogh. Shot him, cut his throat and then stuck the knife in his chest With a note Broad daylight in Amsterdam because of a movie Yeah, and everyone stood around. Well no everyone says whatever you know it's not really true I guess no no But enough of your Mossad talk John C. Dvorak what else we got? No, I think we're done well wait a minute wait a minute look at my list here that I think I gotta You know I'm gonna sit here by my email or My bit message and wait for the information to come in about the birth of foundation. I'm just um I think you're gonna have to hopeful

2:46:12 Oh, we got the new savior at CNN. Looked this guy up and I gotta talk about this stopper-opple-loppa-doppa... The Australian guy? Canadian guy? No he's not Australian. He's Canadian! Scrumbleumbalous. Yeah, I have a little clip of him talking you can hear and then I gotta tell you what's going on. The hell of an interviewer, and you know him as Tavish Smiley This guy has been shining the light on racism poverty and classism And i heard he is a Prince fan You got to go-to song adore prince. I watched his show twice He's boring well. He's not as boring as this Pierce

2:46:53 And he's not. And here is the story, let me just give you the background this guy has got a show on CBC and in fact if you look at his wiki page you'll see some remnants of him Before you say that let me explain how this works He is friends with big-name celebrities. That's why he was brought into CNN How does he become friends with big name celebrities because you're on a state government controlled Broadcast system I had this exact same thing back in the early 80s You're on a state-controlled government broadcast system. You have, you know only a couple of big stations...you're the one! Everybody who goes into Canada is going to be on THE talk show to promote their book, their record... The Strombo Show

2:47:40 And so he was the guy and he's kind of the default guy. The default doesn't mean great, and now he has come over here very much like Pierce Moran and it is not going to work! I mean where are the ratings? He has been on for months now... It is not gonna work Well, it's a possibility but let me... that's not what I was going to talk about. Sorry My...I was just more amused by because I hadn't seen him yet because in Canada I've watched his show up there It's actually better produced show in Canada than CNN version Although and they run a bunch of packages, they don't do that so much in Canada. But in Canada... And by the way when I'm in Port Angeles and I watch it, I'm always watching Canada TV so I watch this guy my wife goes ballistic she hates this guy! Yeah I don't like him either. A lot people just viscerally dislike him. I'm with me but here's the joke of it. In Canada he's like

2:48:35 Hey earrings hanging down soul patch long sideburns Scruffy looks like crap. He looks like a he looks like he should not be on TV He's got the piercing in his nose and tongue stud, and it just horrible And so I did this way there was cracking up. I saw him on CNN Earrings are gone, soul patch is gone. All the studs and all that it's all got he's cleaned him up And I watched him on and I said I didn't realize it before but I actually liked him better with all Because he had some interest He's got no interest in his face now It's just he's a real dull looking person that needs all the studs and earrings and soul patches and spots of hair

2:49:22 And so I was just, so i'm thinking and you would have to agree with this. The guys at CNN which are just idiots they said we'd like to get you do this show here on CNN would you... We have a kind of, I don't want say it's address code but we have like a little... Say no more my friend! I know how this goes and they ruin the only thing good about him Yeah, but I imagine him going yeah no problem. Yes of course he's like man no problem No problem cutting all this stuff off so yeah So that was the wood cracked me up because I kept looking at him I said that names familiar and I kept looking in but I couldn't recognize it without all the shit on his face Why do you bring this up? I don't know I thought I think he's gonna I think he's gonna actually CNN is going out business. I think he's gonna bump Morgan. No

2:50:17 Not at all. Yesterday, I'm here home alone the cable box in the studio is on the fridge so like i'm going to turn on just some CNN and living room while cooking a little dinner for myself doing some research they've got like documentaries and they have who's the girl who was in The Morning Show? Who got kicked off? Erin No no no... The girl we know she had leave Oh Erica No, she's long gone. Not Erica Hill. Who do we know? The girl... Soledad. Oh, Soledad! Was it Soledad? Yeah yeah she got kicked into cable TV HBO sports reporting. She still gets to do her specials

2:51:05 Right. So her special was on last night and she's, I should have recorded it... And she's interviewing a child molester in jail! And you know and then she's so horrible! Like this Zucker is ruining CNN was already lame but now it's not even watchable just I want some news Just you know show me a shot of Tahrir Square or show me, you know something just have some webcams But this is the hole that is so large and gaping in television news Someone's gonna come in and take over the spot. And hello RT Yeah, RT they haven't got the balls to do anything right? We have the exact right idea but never gonna we're never gonna get hired

2:51:55 We? We don't want to do a show on the RT, we just want to fix our team. I'd love to fix it because like the auditions would be so much fun! Oh the auditions would be worth the price of it... They charge people to come to the auditions. Then we'll have a paywall website you can watch during the audition. In fact I think we could do a Pay-Per-View special of you and I doing the auditions. I'd pay! Yeah, I know I would... Alright my friend way too long once again we're giving people more value than they contributed but there you go put some in the karma bank hopefully will get some of that back on Thursday So missions what are you gonna be doing?

2:52:43 I'm gonna go up to the Petaluma and do a show, and then i'm going to come back And try to find at the origin of The Bertha Foundation. Good! I'm gonna be just all over The Bertha Foundation that's... I have to say I'm a little obsessed. I was actually... As I was doing this Friday night even, I was yelling at my computer Going, I'll get you Bertha foundation!! I'll find out who you are!!! You know may not be doable on the computer Alright everybody, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for support of the program and the work that you do I am your pasta Turophile And i'm here at Travis Heights hideout In the capital of drone star states Austin Texas in the morning! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. DuBois We'll be back on Thursday

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