The Sarah Palin Show

00:01 It's time once again for Joe Sixpack and the Soccer Moms. Hey everybody, it's Noah Jenda coming to you from the west coast or the west side of Gitmo Nation. and high and horny in the Curry condo overlooking the San Francisco Bay and the Financial District. My name's Adam Curry. And I'm John C. DeVorek here in Northern Silicon Valley overlooking the bay from the other side, the cheap side, the cheap seats as it were. Hey, I can see you. Hey. Hey, how you doing there, John? Love to see you. Waving back at you. So let me just start off, if I may, by saying

00:37 She had me from hello, may I call you Joe? Wait, wait, before you say anything, we're doing a special show here because we just watched the debates and we're doing a Thursday night version of No Agenda. Yeah, it's the vice presidential debate of 2008. Right, and I have to tell you that I think Joe Biden kicked her ass. You're kidding me. Yes, I am actually kidding you. My goodness. I was thinking of different things to say to get your reaction. I'm almost at a loss for words, John. This debate so validates my entire theory that this whole thing is a charade equal to... It's the biggest reality show in the universe! Big numbers. And this woman...

01:29 is Palin mania is what I predict. Palin mania. And may I say we are all going to die when she is vice president. But Palin mania, this was fantastic. What a great show. Well, okay. So let's start analyzing this thing without... I took a shitload of notes. I just couldn't stop. Let me start with some note. Well, okay, but let's do a little overview because I got a lot of notes But my notes are probably different than yours. What channel are you watching it on? As last time I watched it on CNBC. I watched nothing of the run-up. I only watched From the very beginning. Okay

02:12 uh... same here and i but i watch a lot of the after shows and you did to even though you want to admit it i honestly i just switched around because i wanted to see uh... rachel whatever her name is on msnbc racial rate known how richard you know i think sarah can cook you know the one we were talking about earlier today that one day after that one so uh... i i i just had to because she was so smug yesterday playing uh... video sarah palin uh... playing a flute And I just I had to see what she picked out as as the as the bad points of we ran that flute video on the Dvorak org slash blog site did people say it's a phone like all the comments were the same I wish she was playing my flute That's hey John. That's our audience unbelievable

03:01 These people should be ashamed of themselves. This is my point, John. This is my exact point. This is what the audience wants. I'm telling you what Sarah Palin did this evening, it was unprecedented. You won't hear this on mainstream media, no one's going to admit this, maybe Fox. but it was unprecedented. The acting performance, of course, politics being show business for ugly people, the mold has been broken because Sarah Palin is beautiful. She's stunning. She delivered all the lines. She knew what to say. She lost it a little bit there when Joe choked up, but she came back and finished. I want to talk about the Joe choking up thing. By the way, at the beginning of the show, and I'm watching it on HD in a

03:41 big by man i'm using the project is so this a ten-foot screen she was visibly shaking yet for the first five or ten minutes And I've worked with people on TV and I... She was tight. She was wound up. Generally speaking, you can't see it. And most people wouldn't have noticed it. But when you're sitting... and generally... unless you're sitting there with the person, you won't see it. Because I've seen people shaking like a leaf, but it doesn't show up on TV. But with HD, with a 10-foot screen, you see it. Well, yeah, that wasn't visible, but I totally believe it. She was wound up tight. Yeah, she relaxed about 15-20 minutes into it. By the way, and the thing before we get into our little discussion here, I want to mention this, that the woman that was the moderator, when... Yes, a controversial moderator I understand, right? Yes, because she has a book coming out called Obama World or Obama Nation or the Obama something or other. I presume it's a pro-Obama book?

04:37 and she's a total Obama nut. So she had to back off and she did a really good job until about 12 minutes. Oh yeah, wait a minute. I know I have the note here somewhere. She had a couple of zingers that were so anti-Palin. She had the heartbeat away. No, that was later than 12 minutes. Oh no, I'm not saying 12 minutes. That was 12 minutes after the hour. Oh right, okay. It was at 7.12. Total shark jump. And there was another one. There was another a meme that she threw out there. Ah, which one was it? I'm looking for it. Well, you have it in your notes, but let's start deconstructing this. Heartbeat away. Let's deconstruct it. What was that? You mean the one heartbeat away? Yeah, that was at 12 minutes after 7. And it took that. I thought that was the real one that she threw in. What Palin... I would hope she was a little more aggressive than she is and she should have said, you know, that's a funny question you should ask that because

05:34 I, you know, this would be really cool if you like, if she was like a coach type. I've been looking over every vice president, presidential debate since 1930 and no one's ever asked that question before. Is this like some sort of an insult or I mean, you know, like throw it back. I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't have gone over with a lot of people. Shall I tell you that in that case, I actually believe that when she was training, they didn't think about the audacity of the moderator actually asking that question. of because otherwise you would have had a a super one-liner cuz man she had and she had fricken singers well she would know there was a one-liner waiting to happen with that one heart beat away question especially at the fact when gwen eiffel has a book on all bomb a a pro obama book coming out in the months ahead and she has she's a this is a total conflict of interest situation that they all the kind of glossed over on these different channels

06:31 But no, but as far as I'm concerned, hey, if I'm producing this type of material, this kind of show for a national audience, she's off the show. Yeah, she can, you can, exactly. And you know what? She's off the show. But John, what are you talking about? This show, this is the way it's supposed to be built up, man. This thing was scripted. Are you crazy? This was fantastic from beginning to end. Everything was put together. And even the sympathy laugh for Biden when he cracked the ultimate bridge to nowhere joke, that was the other shark jump. Well, there's a couple. Okay, we're going with your list of notes. Oh, no, it's too long. It's too long. It's just way too long. Well, mine's not too long because it's only when I'm like irked that I jump in. Let's go over what happened on CNN, which you didn't watch and I did. CNN again had the little graph thing, but they changed it. And what bugged me is when I first saw the change, I went,

07:23 What is this bullshit? What was the change? They changed it from Democrats, Republicans and Independents to men and women in Ohio. What? And that was it? Oh man, they punted. They totally punted. They knew the time bomb was coming. They got word of it. Well? You know why? Because Joey Danko, Biden's middle class friend, clued him into it. Well, you know what? And I hate to say you know what, because I'm not really asking a question. I actually wrote it. I hate that. By the way, I wrote a column in the whole place of human events about saying you know what versus guess what, which is things 12-year-olds say. And Biden, and I was criticizing the Democrats for saying you know what, you know what.

08:12 And then I said, it's worse than, or it's not as bad as when you're 10 and a kid, every time they talk to you, they say, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? My daughter does that all the time. Yeah. We talked about this before. Yeah. She stopped doing it. And now, you know, but Biden kept saying, guess what? He sounded like a 12 year old. In his closing remarks, he even started off by saying, look, I was like, whoa, whoa. Well, get back to this thing with the... So that sucks, man. That's no good. Stop. I like this better because it didn't give you the feeling for the independence, but it showed you the difference between men and women. How was that? I don't want to be critical here, but...

08:55 The women totally loved her, right? No, no, it wasn't the women loving her. It was the points that women went up and the men went down. I think they should take the vote away from women. Oh my God! Okay, John. Now, listen. Listen, my friend. My wife would probably agree with me. But it's just women in Ohio. It's just women in Ohio. It's not representative of the whole country. It's not representative of those East Coast politicians. Now, looking at the way the graph went, Palin, early on, was the only one, and this didn't even happen in the previous debate, she pinned the needle with both men and women, which means the 100% mark. It was pinned. Biden pinned the needle two or three times with men.

09:44 Or women one of the two but never with both and it was when she went on and on about personal responsibility We should know what you know our parents told us to be good people and we should do this and that it was just that just buried it was unbelievable fantastic well first of all a couple of general general comments. It was a really red set, which of course, you know, all this stuff, you know, this show is all, uh, you know, they say they agree to stuff, but basically the producer comes in and says, okay, here's what you're going to wear, here's what you're going to wear, and then maybe a little bit of debate back and forth, and so she couldn't wear a red power dress, but I thought she was dressed very well, it was, you know, it just, she looked spectacular.

10:26 And when she opened, first of all the hello can I call you Joe, by the way she didn't call him Joe once during the entire debate. Wait a minute, wait a minute, her mic was open and Biden's wasn't. What was that all about? Not on CNBC, I could hear him. You heard him? I heard him very, I heard him on her mic. What did he say? He said, well yeah you can. Very light. She was saying, can I call you Joe? It was really loud and then you heard him say yes. It was coming through her mic. Can I call you Joe? And actually Biden, you could hear him audibly inhaling a couple of times during the debate. After he would finish his 90 seconds, you could hear him go...

11:08 I was like, whoa man, the guy is like, he's really trying to keep himself in check there. It was a rough time. It was really hard. I thought Biden was fantastic. Yeah, I'm sure. No, really. I thought he was fantastic. He didn't go after her. He didn't do anything really stupid. And this, and honestly, this is, um... It was just a strategy mistake because I don't think he expected this. He did not expect her to perform this well. I mean, he just didn't. And it took him back because he had already decided, I'm not going to attack Palin. And of course, he has a much better understanding of what's going on. He still works for all the same people and we're all going to die in the end anyway.

11:50 that that's beside the point he was not prepared for that and so he had he didn't have anything in his in his arsenal to deal with her actually coming out and killing, I mean absolutely killing, come on, I mean, but listen, she was so good and she built it up and she got confidence and then all of a sudden she, boom, she starts attacking Obama and when she got a question that she didn't want to answer, John, it was like Major League Baseball, she ran out the clock, it was like football, she ran out the clock I'm like, wow, that was so fantastic. And Biden couldn't do it. He was like, I'm running out of time.

12:32 Sorry, actually actually I don't think you're right on one thing Biden twice during the debates that I recall Said well, I see I'm not I'm gonna be out of time in a second hour The red lights blinking was the thing he said another time which was an excuse to let him ramble on I would like to do a stopwatch on the two of them in that debate and I'll bet you Biden snuck in more time using that trick and Yes, he did. He definitely used it a couple times and the moderator was not very tight on time at all. And I just want to remind our listeners that I'm a total constitutionalist. I wouldn't vote for either one of these actors who were cast this evening before you. This is truly the largest reality show in the world and I am extremely delighted because now that I have been proven

13:23 that this is uh... one big show and now i can start predicting exactly what you're going to see along the line is really going to be extremely easy for me and you know if this was steven spielberg or steven box go or whoever actually is behind the production of this of the show and totally this is outrageously entertaining uh... i i i you know i i if anything is be my job to try and understand what people want to watch and this was a right now this was a enough of that started more about this thing so uh... so it's a bit like a little baby drill on my god i don't know what i was going to have a look at the results or doesn't feel drilled drilled drilled drilled drilled baby really do it yet but i mean the

14:08 But think of the connotations of, it's drill, drill, drill. No, it's drill, baby, drill. Oh, drill me, baby, drill me. And then he's saying, bushes, bushes, bushes. I'm just hearing Beavis and Butthead going, he said, bushes. It was fabulous. It was fabulous. Well, that was funny. You're right. Now, let's go back to the thing you mentioned about him getting caught off guard. Now, this I have on my notes, but this is at the end of the notes, and this is part of the postmortem that was done on Fox. I watched the postmortem on CNN. And the funny thing is the one woman on there that really annoys me to no end is this Hillary Rosen. On CNN? You know her. She was the RIAA.

13:23 that this is uh... one big show and now i can start predicting exactly what you're going to see along the line is really going to be extremely easy for me and you know if this was steven spielberg or steven box go or whoever actually is behind the production of this of the show and totally this is outrageously entertaining uh... i i i you know i i if anything is be my job to try and understand what people want to watch and this was a right now this was a enough of that started more about this thing so uh... so it's a bit like a little baby drill on my god i don't know what i was going to have a look at the results or doesn't feel drilled drilled drilled drilled drilled baby really do it yet but i mean the

14:08 But think of the connotations of, it's drill, drill, drill. No, it's drill, baby, drill. Oh, drill me, baby, drill me. And then he's saying, bushes, bushes, bushes. I'm just hearing Beavis and Butthead going, he said, bushes. It was fabulous. It was fabulous. Well, that was funny. You're right. Now, let's go back to the thing you mentioned about him getting caught off guard. Now, this I have on my notes, but this is at the end of the notes, and this is part of the postmortem that was done on Fox. I watched the postmortem on CNN. And the funny thing is the one woman on there that really annoys me to no end is this Hillary Rosen. On CNN? You know her. She was the RIAA.

14:50 Oh, yeah. Oh, geez. Yes, of course we do. She's a creep to the nth and she hates Palin and it was in her analysis is useless. This woman shouldn't even be on television. Anyway, I mean, even Paul Begala, who was a Clinton guy and a total Democrat apologist, at least had a couple of good things to say. Hillary wouldn't do it. And Begala said, for example, that he thought she sucked, but but but she was building up herself for the twenty twelve campaign which i thought was interesting they didn't make that observation meaning that obama can make it through two elections anyway the guy on fox was frank lunds who is the guy it does not buy dimension in a couple times right now and he said luber now i'm sorry now that frank lunds is a polar pollster who knows what it was for the republicans and he does all your weather strapped to you know light detectors and all this other stuff now that's hot andy

15:45 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And he found that the whole group of non, the people that were undecided, everybody thought Palin won. Everybody. And he claimed, by the way, at the end that the polls are going to reflect this and it's put McCain back into the race, which makes me think Can you imagine Sarah Palin actually saves the election? Yes, no, no, I 100% can. I got to think through what the next day on Tuesday we have the next Obama or I mean Biden couldn't pronounce Obama's name 15 times throughout the entire debate. He kept tripping over his name. That was weird. Well, let's go back. Let's go back. This is the part I want to talk about. And this is really interesting. When this came up, I was going,

16:30 Yeah, that's interesting and what it was is that he said that one woman came out and said that One of the reasons Palin won for her was that Palin wasn't expected to do this good based on her performance with Katie curry curry yeah, and the woman made which makes me think that Katie Kirk has actually helped and the election ironically. John, how many times do I have to say, it's in the script, page 15. Now let me finish this, what this woman said. She hinted that the reason she was so shocked by the change, that in fact Palin was good here and she sucked with Couric, and this is extremely important for people out there eavesdropping on this conversation. She hinted that with the Couric interview,

17:20 It was edited to make Palin look bad. Oh, absolutely. This is an attack on the media. Yes. That is, I think in the public domain right now, it's a meme. Everybody thinks the media is corrupt to such an extreme that they're trying to throw this election. And I think the public is just not going to put up with it. And they're catching on. Absolutely. They're totally catching on. And what we don't really think too much about is that Television has been the main communicator in terms of public perception of almost everything. You mean mind control? Since about 1946. We're talking about 60 plus years. This is a learnable, practicable, demonstrable science that you can program people's minds to buy things. We choose our presidents the same way we buy our washing powder.

18:16 and people are clued in. I don't think they're complete robots out there. They see that this is going on, they can spot a scam, they can spot a crappy product, they spot all this stuff, that's why they, you know, cost per thousand is so, you know, what it is in terms of advertising because unless you do your job perfectly and you're not doing it, if you look like you're on one, like for example, Katie Couric, is supposed to be an objective journalist in that old school where you're even-handed. You don't find somebody's weak point and then grind on it and grind on it and grind on it until the person's embarrassed. Specifically, specifically, what newspapers do you read? Specifically, what do you mean when a father rapes her daughter? Specifically!

19:01 It's the public spots that a mile away and this woman reflected that in this entire audience at Luntz had which was a focus group essentially real-time focus group was like they weren't they except there was a couple you know always there's a you can't have 100% but there's a couple yeah I don't know I didn't like her but because you know that was good by the way count like a she reminds you my third girlfriend who dumped me can I just counter that for a second I have to disagree respectfully John Yes, people are on to it, but with this particular debate, and you know, obviously, Pamela McCain stands on her right, and boy, it was so brilliant to say, I'm going to talk straight to you, and I'm going to say it. And for all intents and purposes, she actually said something, but it sounded really straight, okay? This was game-changing.

19:55 rule-changing and no I know I look I know what you're saying what you're saying is that I I'm saying that America... Wait a minute, wait a minute. What you're saying is it's going to be worse than ever. Yes, of course I'm saying that. We're all going to die. But the point is, you're saying that the public is on to it and I have to disagree. And it's not because... When they think about it, yes of course they can... They understand it quite quickly. That's this awakening that I think is taking place. But this was of a format. uh... that is so recognizable this is this is what american idol did to the gong show okay it took it to a whole nother level and people are getting sucked into it they're getting sucked in really really deep and fox news will propagate that and you know she's a hero and there you go joe you know and i mean might say it ain't so joe i mean my god this was this was just absolutely brilliant a time bomb an absolute time bomb and i agree i think it puts

20:56 McCain ahead of Obama and I bet you that the Obamatrons are going to be pissed off. No, I think it's gonna be, I think they are gonna be a little, but of course they're gonna be in denial like this Hillary Rosen woman who gave, you know, they had these points things going on with these different people and she wouldn't give Palin credit for one positive thing and if she did she gave him four negative votes. I mean it was unbelievable. There is a certain denial out there, I mean this Palin thing is like got these guys really spooked and they're freaked about it and it's like they hate her and which then the Democrats are always the love, love people and they hate, hate. I mean, you know, I don't get it.

21:41 I'm just looking through through my nose that actually they did cover quite a large array of topics boy The Israel stuff was hot and heavy man. That was that was pretty amazing What I just waited for one of them to say one of my best friends is Jewish I mean, that's all that's all that was missing away from it. They really they really well that got so close and and then Palin I mean this is so skillfully done. Her hammering Ahmadinejad for, yeah, and she's propagating lies. I mean he did not say the rotting corpse of Israel. Maybe he, it's all an interpretation and translation. It's all stupid. Well let's go back to the main themes, the underlying themes that they were obviously trying to do. And I thought where Palin did well, at least on a kind of a subtext, is Biden

22:33 better than Obama and I actually like Biden in this debate. I think he was a very personable guy and he was, you know, he's magnanimous in a lot of different ways. He has a big smile, totally a political animal. And you know, I was hoping she'd see him and he went on with it, went on, you know, Scranton, Scranton and all that. He'd say that she'd say, Joe, using the word Joe, Joe, when was the last time you actually lived in Scranton? You know, but he also used 40 years ago. There were some script changes I would have made so I wouldn't have had him say madrasas because no one knows what the fuck a madrasas exactly You know, what the hell is that all about? I mean he was really you know at a certain point you could tell about Half an hour into that they both kind of like ran out of material and they had to pick it up and then No, he lost the crowd on a couple of these crazy things like that. Mm-hmm

23:21 Now, let's go back. Biden, better than Obama, as I was saying, linked McCain with Bush because he harped on it much more so than Obama was able to do. Obama kind of lost the track on that and he was criticized for it by the people deconstructing his performance. Now, she They obviously expected something like this because she had this one interesting approach, which I thought was genius. which was that she called him on that, and she says, you know, you guys are big talkers about the future and change, but you keep pointing to the past. Yeah, and there's always a finger pointing to the past. Oh yeah, it was beautiful. I thought that was like, I was just like, whoa, somebody wrote that one. And I think that that was set there. They said, look, if he starts talking about Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, and all this other stuff. By the way, what's 1932? What happened in 1932 that he referenced that? Roosevelt was elected. Oh, okay.

24:19 Like anybody knows that. Yeah, that's why I'm asking. I'm like, what happened in 1932? And he threw out some things there. He tried to get her on the Bush doctrine. She didn't pick up on that. I really, really enjoyed when she said, of course, she's positioning them as mavericks. And I think that's what the big theme is going to be for McCain on Tuesday. Wait, wait, wait. Every time she brought that Maverick thing, the numbers plunged. That Maverick thing is done. Give up on it. Yeah, so she really pulled that towards herself. No, that was good. That was really good. It didn't do much for her numbers. Let me go over quickly, I only made a few notes on the numbers going up and down. With Palin mainly. Biden had a real interesting thing with it when he talked about drill, drill, drill, his numbers actually went down. And how about when she said drill, baby, drill, did they go up for the- A little bit, but the funny thing was when Biden talked about we can't drill, drill, drill, and it went down.

25:25 but we should do some drilling it went up like big time really yeah it was weird energy independence that must have really work people must have been on love that well it worked a little bit let me give you a good example talking about the bipartisan partisanship thing didn't work in fact it went down maverick dog corruption and greed big big like spiking like through the room like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so she picked she was the only one who actually started about the financial crisis and she also wound up with it which i thought was good because we kind of got away from that and it was finished by the way beat his bailout by hands down by and now has but hands right at the end cranes down hands down and like going out to a good meal the desserts would mostly remember

26:10 Yeah, you mean the way she has her newborn kid on her shoulder at 11 at night? Just to be on camera? That's a nice touch. Oh, by the way, the lame lame-o, your joke was lame because no one got it? Oh man, I thought I was peeing my pants. You thought? You should check. Oh, the other word Biden used was, Iran is not run by Ahmadinejad, it's run by the theocracy. I'm like, no man, no one knows what that is! I don't know what that means. He's too inside baseball. Yeah, and it's not an evil name. You've got to say like the evil Ayatollah. That's the kind of stuff. Not the theocracy. That doesn't get them. And by the way, a lot of what he said I got to agree with, even though I know that the people who really run everything are out to kill us on both sides.

26:56 seriously but this is a show this was I mean god bless American television god bless it you know it was good but it wasn't great I like to see what the overnights are anyway they're gonna be huge huge you know what it was just so nice and it was so because everyone Look, they started off, okay, even David Letterman last night was saying, are you all excited about the debate? This thing is living, man. This thing is like a hit record. You know it's just bubbling under. And then even CNBC opens up with, well, literally, welcome to the main event. I'm not kidding you. And then we're going to have pre and post game analysis. These are direct quotes. I wrote them down.

27:35 you know and then at the end Aaron I think yeah not Aaron the other girl on CNBC says okay let's get your popcorn CNBC and this is a business channel this was highly anticipated I'm predicting 40 million plus viewers Well, 80 is the record that was set by Reagan and Carter. Was that the final of their debates? I think they had more than 40 on the last one. So I think it's more 65, 75, maybe 80. It's going to be higher than 40. Okay, so here's a couple of other things that bombed. This is the one that's really interesting that bombed that I think caught everyone off guard. She says, hockey mom down into the tank.

28:16 I didn't catch that one. You had to see the chart when she talked about Interesting. So yeah, I thought that was weird when she talked about parents and personal responsibility Parenting and personal responsibility and we need to it spiked Everybody she would just the only time in both debates that both people were spiked to the max. How about education? She won because of that How about education, John? How did that do in the ranking? No, education moved it up, but nothing like that. This really... I mean, it was like, holy crap! If she had stayed on that for about five minutes, it would have been... By acclimation, it would have given her the job.

28:56 The other one that the real loser, the loser that she kept harping on, and even when Biden kind of got into it, was a total disaster and makes you know for a fact that the USA public does not like this war in Iraq. She starts talking about the troops and getting, you know, this and that. It didn't work, right? People hate that. Only when she brings up getting out or something like that, it goes up, it goes in the toilet when either one of them talk about extending this war for one more minute. Yeah. Hell yeah, and same with Afghanistan, right? Because that's the big trick here. I mean, it's so obvious. Afghanistan gets nothing. Yeah, well we're gonna end the war in Iraq, and we're gonna send all the troops to Afghanistan. We're just changing to another place. I mean, it's just moving the same military industrial complex to another country, which happens to have a fantastic natural resource of drugs that they can also make money on, shipping it through Wall Street.

29:51 So now I'm sorry right I get carried away. Can I just say though another fantastic beautiful moment? This was a Miss America moment when Sarah Palin was that she was actually saving poor black kids in Darfur harsh herself. I mean it was just so moving She'd completely nailed that one Well, she did the right thing with her response. Now, here's the one with Biden. Biden loses when they talk about drill, drill, drill. When he starts taking, especially with the men, they just go into the tank. So these guys have got a problem with that issue. And by the way, when anyone talks about nuclear power,

30:30 Down the women go into the toilet and the men go way up. This is like hilarious. Oh, no All these the green and all these kind of knee-jerk things interesting The women are way into it and the men are like now this is bull Well green is the whole thing is being marketed to women. That's Of course. Apparently. Yeah. Anyway, the big spike, one of the big spikes for Biden is when he starts talking about getting out of Iraq. Yeah, of course. The American people want to get out of all these countries, of course. They're just being shafted. They don't understand that yet. But yeah, of course they do. I think that's good, but neither of them can really adjust their strategies on that in the public eye. They have to do something else. The thing is, again like the last one, they go on the attack, the numbers go down, and when they're all with just idealistic crap,

31:21 blow it is a great country and we did we need to improve our education because we're the leaders in this case boom up it goes so the public is looking for that kind of thing it will work it's called nationalism yes exactly and they're very nationalistic and they don't want to play that game you're gonna do well meanwhile Back at the ranch. I have a note here that, oh here's a note I made. The note reads as follows. Anyone who follows our various podcasts knows that I take kind of sketchy notes and I wonder what the heck. You don't say. This one says, coughed a tear, she blew it. Okay, here's the, I realize what it is. That's when Biden, which I thought was a bit much,

32:06 where he started to, you know, cough the tear over, you know, the possibility that it was his sons and that, you know, horrible thing that happened to his first wife that got killed. By the way, Joe Biden cries during speeches. He's known for doing this. I don't want to, you know, say that it wasn't sincere, but, you know, he, like any good actor, he uses his personal emotions and experiences to get across his point. It's probably, I mean, to do it that well, do it the well time, there's probably some sincerity involved. These are highly skilled actors, Charlie. Yes, but she had the opportunity to be motherly. Yeah, I totally agree. She blew it big time there She could have come back so because she already had the you know She deserves her her place and have her reward in heaven Yeah, but that's all this current wife was a teacher or something like that before he wasn't right about the first one I know but but

32:55 You're right. She totally lost and then she went over to energy or some shit. Yeah, she could have locked it up right now You know and something about you know I have you know we've hit every all these families and you and everybody really appreciates what you've gone through and yeah You know just some sort of there are plenty of single-parent dads out there and we support them I mean the point she totally and that's you know that I You know what, I didn't know this about Joe Biden. I think it surprised a lot of people because most Americans of course are stupid slave sheep ignorance. And, but that was a very interesting, interesting piece of information and it did instantaneously, instantaneously it humanized the guy. And that really, really worked and all the way up until the end I think he had the upper hand once that happened.

33:43 Well, I'm not convinced of that because I think where he blew it right after that sometime. He did this twice and I didn't write down the first episode of the second time he did it and I think It got fair numbers, but I think it makes him look like either a stand-up comic or just a political when he went, he's not a maverick because, he's not a maverick because, he's not, and he didn't do it five or six, it went on for ten times and she didn't, there's another opportunity for her to say, Joe, you know, you're repeating yourself here, he's not a maverick because, and he did it earlier too. He would even say, he would repeat things slowly so you idiots can understand what I am programming into your brain. He would keep doing that. He would keep doing that. And there was, yeah, what was that thing? I wrote it down and he was just, it was, shoot, I can't, I'll find it somewhere in my notes. But yeah, there was a lot of repetition because these guys know repetition works. They know it. It didn't work.

34:46 well no not that this was sarah palin just took it to a whole different level and and uh... the reason why i see what's the most fashion when you are the problem was it was old-fashioned it looked old-fashioned felt old-fashioned you know it was this repetition thing it looks staged the last guy with the guy who does it the best right now is chris rock a comic yeah let me tell you though that uh... so first of all sarah palin is a political animal uh... i think it and what that means is the again it's just an actress and uh... and she's fantastic at it and i think it's a super duper asset for uh... for mccain and i only wish that she was working for us and because you know clearly she can take direction and uh... this is the kind of woman this is the kind of image that absolutely could save america if someone else's pulling her strings so uh...

35:38 You know, it's going to be a hard job for Obama and Biden to get across the message. This is what I said to you before. She's expert at hammering home the exact talking points to the T in understandable, pleasant mannerism. With plain language. The CNBC guy just made a big point of that. And everyone from the Midwest, including Van Susteren on Fox News. She's on, she's like in love with her. She's on Fox, of course she's in love with her. But she's going on and on about this is the midwestern thing that we love so much and that's why you know the Johnny Carsons and the David Letterman's do so well on television. But this is the big secret. This is something that I've known for almost all my life. Country and western music

36:25 laughed about, is scoffed by the elitist media on the West and the East. Okay? Now it is, they actually can't stop it anymore because now you have the country music awards, but the sales of not just actual CDs, but of concerts is so incredibly large because it is actually what is alive in America today. That's what people really like to listen to. They have huge concerts and if you take that one more step and start looking at NASCAR... Oh, thank you very much. It is the largest spectator sport in the United States of America. It is huge. And the West Coast and East Coast elitist media, whenever they recognize it, they get it. And this is the secret to reality television. They don't even understand it yet, they're so freaking elitist. When people see themselves standing in line like slave sheeps

37:26 they love it. Hey look I'm on TV and I'm going to the stupid audition and I made it on. This is what Jerry Springer is about, this is what it's all about John and that's why these shows are huge in the numbers and obviously it's not, it's not, should not be the future of this great country but that is the reality, that is really what's going on and that is what you're seeing this evening. Okay now I got the one, the one, the main, the entire night, the The one, and of course there were no real gaffes except for the, except the way, there's one kind of a gaffe. Besides, I think Palin kept calling some general McClure. Oh yeah, but no one knew that. They all had to get their analysts and look it up on Wikipedia. No, but there was a good one that were, I mean they could have gotten it. And why didn't Biden correct her? Because, you know, if he did, he didn't know it either. Biden's was better. Oh, what was that? Biden had a gaffe that I think,

38:19 you could have called him on he talks about that you know there he calls the Bosnians the Bosniaks no I didn't hear that that's fantastic this is that he was so heavily involved in he doesn't even know what they're called because of the Bosniaks oh fantastic I didn't hear that it was hilarious I just almost fell over the chair when he said it oh that is so funny the Bosniaks He probably thinks Borat really is from Kazakhstan. So here's the one that I thought when he brought it into the, I don't have the exact quote, but he brought it in out of the blue, I guess as a reference to all the Democrats that still remember this. This is another one of these callbacks like 1932 that nobody gives a crap about. He brings up Judge Bork. Oh man, I mean... Did you hear that? He said Bork.

39:14 Judge Bork, oh we could have been had, who knows what the country would be like if we had Judge Bork. Nobody cares, nobody cares. This is an SMS society man. He also, he was under prepared John. He really was not ready for this. He really thought this was a shoe in, I'm telling you. No, you might be right. I thought he did a great job. Well, I think he told the truth and I think he spoke from his heart, but, um, and I think he played his role expertly, you know, this, he didn't attack her, um, which just made it so easy for her and, you know, this is, uh... Well, this is what all the experts predicted, by the way. Well, I predicted it too, not that I want to call myself an expert, but I told you... Well, you're as much of an expert as any of these other boneheads. Well, thank you, I appreciate that, my friend. Yes, very good, very good.

39:58 uh... i don't pay palin did have a little gaff which i'm sure will become a uh... the freudian soundbite on the you tube to couple of them by the way well there's more than one of the problems that she had no one is that he's a little bit occasionally she roamed into that you know miss teenage south carolina thing where her sentence structure started to break down and she kept trying to recover and it was like we you can keep try to wrap this up before you embarrass yourself generally and biden didn't do that too but she would do it in a real weird way you know i i i can see somebody during this one on youtube generally she uh... i thought her vocabulary was

39:14 Judge Bork, oh we could have been had, who knows what the country would be like if we had Judge Bork. Nobody cares, nobody cares. This is an SMS society man. He also, he was under prepared John. He really was not ready for this. He really thought this was a shoe in, I'm telling you. No, you might be right. I thought he did a great job. Well, I think he told the truth and I think he spoke from his heart, but, um, and I think he played his role expertly, you know, this, he didn't attack her, um, which just made it so easy for her and, you know, this is, uh... Well, this is what all the experts predicted, by the way. Well, I predicted it too, not that I want to call myself an expert, but I told you... Well, you're as much of an expert as any of these other boneheads. Well, thank you, I appreciate that, my friend. Yes, very good, very good.

39:58 uh... i don't pay palin did have a little gaff which i'm sure will become a uh... the freudian soundbite on the you tube to couple of them by the way well there's more than one of the problems that she had no one is that he's a little bit occasionally she roamed into that you know miss teenage south carolina thing where her sentence structure started to break down and she kept trying to recover and it was like we you can keep try to wrap this up before you embarrass yourself generally and biden didn't do that too but she would do it in a real weird way you know i i i can see somebody during this one on youtube generally she uh... i thought her vocabulary was

40:40 Interesting. She definitely tried to start her sentences differently each time. You know, I pay attention to that kind of stuff and there was no look and guess what and any of that stuff. Although, when the... I think this was the heartbeat away. So the gaffe that she made there was instead of saying John McCain to lead, she said, no, it was John McCain to leave. I didn't hear that. Yeah, yeah, that was one of the... What did the moderator... She cracked a couple jokes and I was typing on the keyboard so I couldn't hear it. Kind of near the end there. What... I didn't hear her do any jokes. They were laughing, she like cracked a little side joke just before she laid into the, before she said the jokes were lame-o, but the moderator said something. She said something funny, but, and the audience laughed. Oh, no, all I remember is the lame-o thing and then Biden kind of had to come back, you know, thinking I'm funny or something like that. That was a nice moment, that was a human moment, but I don't think it did much for the debate. Did you look at the spikes? Was there anything there? Nah, it was, it went up a little bit, yeah.

41:41 But it wasn't a spike. I mean, the spikes were always with the same old kinds of grand issues. Education to a lesser extent, but personal responsibility was the big one. And greed and corruption. Greed and corruption worked with McCain too. But the problem is, you know, the problem Palin had, she revisited it too often. She revisited two topics over and over again out of the blue. I thought it was a little strained about, you know, energy independence and then greed and corruption. She'd bring it in when she wanted to get her numbers back up. You know what, so here's how... And she could have, by the way, she could have, you know, here's the thing that somebody's, one of these boneheads has got to do. I'm sick of hearing this meme

40:40 Interesting. She definitely tried to start her sentences differently each time. You know, I pay attention to that kind of stuff and there was no look and guess what and any of that stuff. Although, when the... I think this was the heartbeat away. So the gaffe that she made there was instead of saying John McCain to lead, she said, no, it was John McCain to leave. I didn't hear that. Yeah, yeah, that was one of the... What did the moderator... She cracked a couple jokes and I was typing on the keyboard so I couldn't hear it. Kind of near the end there. What... I didn't hear her do any jokes. They were laughing, she like cracked a little side joke just before she laid into the, before she said the jokes were lame-o, but the moderator said something. She said something funny, but, and the audience laughed. Oh, no, all I remember is the lame-o thing and then Biden kind of had to come back, you know, thinking I'm funny or something like that. That was a nice moment, that was a human moment, but I don't think it did much for the debate. Did you look at the spikes? Was there anything there? Nah, it was, it went up a little bit, yeah.

41:41 But it wasn't a spike. I mean, the spikes were always with the same old kinds of grand issues. Education to a lesser extent, but personal responsibility was the big one. And greed and corruption. Greed and corruption worked with McCain too. But the problem is, you know, the problem Palin had, she revisited it too often. She revisited two topics over and over again out of the blue. I thought it was a little strained about, you know, energy independence and then greed and corruption. She'd bring it in when she wanted to get her numbers back up. You know what, so here's how... And she could have, by the way, she could have, you know, here's the thing that somebody's, one of these boneheads has got to do. I'm sick of hearing this meme

42:24 The United States uses 21% of the world's energy and we only have 3% of the world's resources. That 3% of the world's resources plus our coal is like a thousand times more than anybody else has. And when it comes down to it, that 3% of the world's total, yeah, if you tapped it and just used it, it would last for decades. I mean, the whole thing, it's bad math. And the fact that the Republicans have bought into this stupid argument, oh well we use 21% or 25 or whatever it is of the world's energy but we only have 3% of the world's resources. Those 3% is more than we're using.

43:04 Nobody jumps on that and says dude. This is just great I mean, this is a there's got to think of an analogy which I'll think of you know It's like you use like most of the tomatoes in the world, but you know you this kind of thing I mean, there's some there's some better way. There's some way of Submarining that bogus number you're taking two different things So McCain and Palin can lock this up and this is the twist that I would I would give it considering I only have you know, what, 30 more days or whatever, I would have set it up so that McCain can now say, well I guess shit he can't I guess because he already voted. What a dick. I would have done it differently. If McCain or Palin were to come out and say no to this bill in some way, right, for the Financial Stability Act or the Emergency Economic Stability Act,

43:54 If there was some way that they could talk that down, they could lock it up. Because that I think is the number one thing on Americans' minds right now, is this. And what is that going to do to the markets? And we know Obama can't do it because he's backed so heavily by Wall Street. He's been mum on the topic. Yeah, he's been sitting on the way observing from the sidelines or whatever right whatever he says And I you know McCain just voted against it, but that would have been the moment really, but maybe the timing wasn't right well You know it's he's I don't think you can go back on it in any way. You know he can't say oh I you know I want a mulligan. It's it's not good. You know that that whole topic is a problem so

44:37 I don't know. I think they're going to have to win without that, but it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I mean, there are people, you know, I had one of my bloggers, you know, most of my bloggers hate McCain, and one of them said, is McCain trying to blow the election? I guess it's one of the... I read that actually, yeah, interesting. It's not an unusual... by the way, it's funny because he's the most left wing of the group. He's not really one of the bloggers, he's the sysop who I let blog. because he can't, he just feels like jumping in. Okay, but he gets good numbers usually, he didn't on this one. So I can now give him crap. It's an interesting point because if you look at some of the extreme right-wing talk guys are the most conservative, like Michael Savage for example, one of the more entertaining guys and one of the biggest talk show hosts in the United States on radio. He's been saying this from day one.

45:30 that the thing is rigged for McCain to lose. He wants to lose it. Because, you know, they want to get the Democrats in and I've seen, if you listen to me and my, you know, 48-year cycle thing, the idea is if you get the Democrats in during this point of the cycle, they will never get in office again in their entire history. That the party will be dead. Well, you know, that's interesting you say that. I don't believe the world is too dynamic and this is why they're all running scared by the way to really plan something that far ahead anymore so I believe that of course the true owners of the earth control both candidates so I think that they basically hedge their bets and it's a playbook. You could do worse than dropping that theme.

46:15 Why? I truly believe in it. I am Gore. No! Oh, come on. You know what I'm talking about. These guys are all bought and paid for. Come on, that's obvious. Please, this is why I say, Sarah Paley's fence. We need to create a movement. They would have a sense of the cycle and they would want to get one person or other, somebody in there for a purpose. But they're going to tank it anyway. That's already happening. People are so stupid. You heard about the White House saying, oh, we can't handle the email forms anymore on our servers, so you can't automatically email your representative because the PHP script is bogging down. Yeah, what so of course it's a crock of shit

46:58 It's horrible. That stuff is going on, man. So anyway, besides that, what we need to do is we need to kidnap Sarah Palin and we need to reprogram her so that we can take over these evil people that are behind all of this. That's not a stupid theme. That's an actual... That is what we should do with the playbook. I'm telling you, these guys are brilliant. Did you hear The Access of Evil? She had an Access of Evil in there. I loved it. it was uh... amadine jod came to a meal and the castro brothers as well as i like that stars like it sounds like a band yeah now it's not like people gangsters the castro brothers there are two characters with the with joey knuckles it mickey mickey blue mickey blue eyes mickey blue the castro brothers yeah i know i love that i have a very big but i don't know about that

47:57 and uh... that was a good one but anyway obviously you know what cannot represent united states of america is this whole notion of uh... hey look no one can have nuclear shit only weekend and that's the balance because we fuckin rule the world you know this was so evil that was for the stuff that was coming out of her mouth how did i do on the scale it didn't do anything one way or the other leadership thing always sends the women down in a minute and i well maybe we should you know that which is not done She never said, I mean that was actually a pretty neutral little exchange. It didn't amount to a hill of beans one way or the other. But it's such a huge issue. People don't care about us killing other people? I guess we don't. Generally speaking, I think it's pretty removed. Which I think the rest of the world doesn't quite get, but that's just the way it is.

48:45 I mean, you know, we're close but not quite the Roman Empire. And we have a certain kind of cavalierness about us that, you know, these other moaners and groaners, which is why that article, which I have to post tomorrow, the one I sent you from the Telegraph, about all these Europeans, and you've talked about it. Oh, yeah. These Europeans that say, oh, it's America's problem, this whole economic thing, and now they're all screwed. and is that there's actually a new uh... thread that i'm following because people are now reading the new bill which is five hundred and forty one pages you know this is grown just i'd actually say you a couple of links uh... but apparently uh... they've set it up so that they can actually just pay foreigners it's just it's just a day after the chinese we're just gonna pay off the chinese and then okay now let's go back to back to business like we don't give them enough money yeah

49:36 Yeah, I know this whole thing is a total scam, but the market demands it. When I did a piece with Horowitz the other day... No, they're telling us we're all gonna die if you don't do it. They're saying that we're all gonna die. They're saying it. Yeah, I know. Financial terrorism. But the market said very clearly, look, you guys do this deal or we're just going to tank and you're going to be screwed. So okay, we'll do the deal. Like you said the other day when I was talking to you, you said, well, even though it seems like a lot of money, and it does, to say the least, $700 billion in an economy like ours,

50:11 It's a lot of money. It's about $2,500 for every living person in the U.S. But it's not about the money. It's not about the money. It's about the power and the control and a fourth branch of government. But we're not going to get that, you know, from these candidates. I mean, nothing's going to change and it's just a cycle. And you know what's baked into it, John? This whole thing about carbon credits is baked into this bill. Oh, this really bugged me. Oh, it is? It's baked into the bill? bill man is all kinds of carbon credits sure baked in but they'll use it for the I'm sorry what should I say included in constant I say included or included would be good included and somewhat obscured because it's on page three thousand or whatever

50:51 The fact that the two of them Palin and Biden went didn't you know the appealing was a little better? She was better on two things one on that on the you know By the way, what are the gays gonna do listening to fight and saying did you notice this? Yeah, they both said no way no gay marriage. You're a lot of Democrats were that's I was shocked. I was absolutely wait a minute. That doesn't make any sense. I And he said that Obama agreed with him. So now, so there you go, there's your government, to our gay listeners, there's your government. They hate you. They hate you. Both of them. You're still going to vote for one or the other? Palin was more magnanimous. Of course she's smart. And you know what? She has, first of all, this is America, John. Now I'm actually sounding like an asshole Republican. But the way she handled that... As opposed to a what? A regular Republican? No, just a kook.

51:42 Just a fucking kook. The kook that I am. But the way she handled that, I was extremely impressed. She said, look, it's not my choice, blah blah blah blah. She went through all that and then she said, but you know what? I stand by it. Marriage should be man and woman. So that's something that's debatable and we'll debate about it forever. that's okay it seemed to me although she did skate around that answer that she agrees just about everything all legal rights etc etc but she was hiding something that i'm not quite sure what it was the way she was handling i thought was pretty you know tip it was she's a christian and she's you know pentecostal she has all these you know his bag as she was dealing with it as a person and she but he didn't feel that was going to get in the way of her legislation i think that but you turn over to biden

52:28 He's like, no. He seemed like the bigot. Yeah, it was unbelievable. And I think that's really gonna hurt him. Oh, I think it's gonna hurt the campaign, because all these gays are like lined up lockstep with Obama and Biden, and now they're hearing this? Yeah. This'll be, you know, because I'm sure there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of, there's probably as many gay people that are Republicans as there are Democrats, because it's got nothing to do with anything. John, we're all gay! They were all walking over toward the Democrat side because it seemed as though they were more amenable, but now it's like, well what difference does it make? Let me just vote my party. That was a botch. That was a huge botch. But also, it came from a very direct, that was one of the times he was extremely direct and just said, no, I'm against gay marriage, not gonna happen. Yeah. So that, at least you know what you got with him.

53:22 Well, he was, you know, I thought generally speaking he wasn't as direct or he wasn't as plain talking as Sarah Palin, but he was about as direct without being completely obnoxious. But he was bumbling, look again I'm looking at it from, I'm not kidding, I'm looking at it from a NASCAR perspective and sometimes he would go off and he would mention names, all these words, fancy words, and I'm not mocking uh... middle america or anything like that i love you you've you've you've given me a reason to have a career with shes shitty hair and leather jackets and i appreciate it now but you know that that's what everyone said the big air dickhead you know what unjustly i'm basically i'm basically just uh... standard kinda guy and i get a little cookie like we all do we all like to smoke some weed and hang out there cut your left and we will play the game

54:17 You'd actually be comfortable at a NASCAR race. I've been to them. Oh. Absolutely. And I've been to IndyCar and oh yeah, I love it. But anyway, my point is that I think you have something you're onto something a little bit the problem We're gonna run into here is what happened with Kerry. Kerry was looking at actually pretty good. He was still ponderous. He couldn't stop talking I'm a Droned on and on Obama is gonna is is approaching this kind of ponderous boring guy And you know, it's gonna look at the same old thing to Democrats. I can't stop talking and it's just a lot of you know, and they're not

54:55 dropping down to the level where they're actually speaking to people it's just you know kind of talking to an audience and uh... i don't know i mean i guess you know i thought i still think i've thought from the beginning obama's acted and i had to and i guess he's not a good speaker read can hold an audience we can draw a crowd and i think they should have been selling tickets to stadiums across the country from gates from the get-go elliot You know, people would pay a hundred bucks and fill a stadium to listen to this guy because they put on a great show. They got the stage, and they got him. It was awesome. It was a class A rock show. Let me ask you something. I listened to an interview today, and I'll send you a link. I was actually listening to it right up until the debate.

55:39 and there was some guy, of course he's written a book or whatever, but he was talking about Obama as a, and of course I want this on my resume, a community organizer. And he was explaining what a community organizer was. And essentially it's someone who goes around in a community and convinces people, kind of turns their own opinion and their own words into something that is beneficial to him or whoever he's organizing for. Kind of like like an internet chat room moderator, if you will. But whenever the owner of the bulletin board comes along and says, I gotta say something, then it's like, oh well, the owner of the system is here, I gotta let him talk.

56:21 And that his skill, and this is what we're seeing, his skill is playing upon very deep emotions within his audience, within people who are listening to them, and getting them to see his way. Truly change, actually. Is that a fair assessment? Yeah, I think in some ways it is. It might be a little superficial, but the fact of the matter is a community organizer is a guy who goes around with an agenda And they go from place to place to place to get people to agree with this agenda, whatever it is. And he's, and it takes a lot of work. This is like one of those things, I always thought, you know, there's, you run into this a lot. Everyone in the United States has seen this happen. You, you run into, for example, somebody knock on the door.

57:06 You know, you go to the door and there's some little black kid selling subscriptions to magazines or candy or something or else and they come and they go. Every once in a while, one of these kids is so driven to sell you something. that you'd go, wow, I would love to have this kid working for me, selling, you know, advertising in a magazine or selling something because this guy is just relentless and he's on and on and on and on. He's a sales guy. And he's just never, he's relentless. You'd have to give him money to get out of there or something because you can't, you know.

57:44 We know people that do this. Well, we have that in the United Kingdom as well, by the way. Okay, and this type of person is what a community organizer basically is. He goes around and he sells, you know, unless he's the leader of a bunch of these kids, It's that kind of thing and they're just floating around some area to get some change made or to get a law passed or to kick somebody out of office or whatever it is. In the case of the acorn, which was one of the things he worked for, is still around and they seem to be involved with getting people to vote. May I just ask you something, just so I understand. May I ask you specifically?

58:21 I'm doing my Katie Couric. May I ask you specifically, is it only little black kids that do this? No, there's all kinds. There's white kids, there's a lot of... Well, you said it. You said it's always the little black kids. No, no, it's the little black kids who come up with the newspaper thing or the magazine thing in my area. So make sure you're not a racist bigot cocksucker. No, I mean, I've never... I haven't seen a white kid come up to my house in 20 years selling magazines, it's always black kids. And I was using the black kids because they're the best example and I'm actually more impressed with them because they have the black kid, it's a white neighborhood, a black kid coming into a white neighborhood selling magazine subscriptions with a phony baloney identification. It takes a lot of nerve

59:05 It takes a salesmanship. It takes an ease. It takes a lot of there's so many elements that that's what impresses me I'm going wow this this kid is unbelievable He's coming into an all-white neighborhood is selling some crappy magazines that I don't want and he's relentless was succeeding guilt trips on me and everything else to get a sale I'm just impressed believe me That's why, you know, I don't see white kids doing this. I'm just saying that to protect you, John, because I know how stupid people are who listen to this show sometimes. Yeah, no, I can understand why you'd think it would be some sort of a racist thing. But it is not a racist thing, it is a cultural thing and it's impressive to me that these kids are so talented

59:49 uh... that is just like wow and obama had to be in that league had to be give me a break this guy was in a league by himself as a community organizer i'm sure yeah i would and he's obviously the dumbest guy in the world can i just take that back it came out wrong the people who listen to the show aren't stupid sometimes we just don't hear things the way that... You know, there are some people that listen to the show that are stupid and hate us. That's true. I was just sitting there going like... Mostly they hate you though. That would piss me off. And now they're gonna hate you for defending me. Oh, we had Dvorak. We could have had him as a racist pig. But not again. Yeah, but John is because... You suck. You know, you're one of my true friends.

1:00:30 How sad is that? It's bad. So anyway, but yeah, well thanks for rescuing me. Now that you mention it, you're probably right. I shouldn't have, you know, I could have said some ethnic kid. But no, it's usually black kids and it's the black kids who impress me the most. And in fact, there was a, I mean, I've always, a lot of black kids or young black people. I'm gonna get into this. This is no stopping where you're at. I'm digging a deeper hole. But let me finish this. I have run into so many of these guys And every time I do, I mean, I've seen guys at this toll plaza collecting tolls that are so adept. There's a couple guys that are, there's a bunch of checkers at one of the stores and there's like one black guy that is there when I see him. I don't care if his line is 10 miles long. He will get me out.

1:01:19 faster than anybody else. And there was a Costco recently, and again it was one of these guys you can see a mile away, they're just working their butts off, they're just fast and they're enjoying it. And should I tell you something? It's these guys and gals I presume, that when everything comes crashing down and money is useless for a while, hyperinflation or whatever, they're the ones that are going to succeed because they have true social skills and true business acumen that goes way above and beyond all the steve reid has been going on a wall street well there there may be that but i think they're just natural sanders and example of more recent always do this by the way i think people out there should do this when you go into a line i'm looking at a line a bunch of costco lines and and i'm always which can make a judgment you know that i'm not gonna this is where i can get myself in the trouble of making some generalities are not going to do it

1:02:08 But I will spot the guy or the girl who are just kicking ass They are moving the line and you're always looking for them for the oh man. I just one guy's recently Hold on I'm about to lose you okay wait it came back maybe Okay, yeah, I got okay, so this guy is checking me out You know I'm running up my bill while taking the card with his other hand with the other guy and starting his checking him out while he's still finishing me and I'm out of there I pass up everybody this and all the other lines and I turn out and I what I want to tell people to do when you run into this tell the guy

1:02:49 Well, I would say, look, you're the best checker in the entire place today. You kick ass. I really appreciate it. And let me and let me tell you, John, I've I've run several businesses. The last one was 750 people in like seven different countries. and you're always looking for these people if you look at me via right now we have such a timing the ethnic backgrounds and and racing creed in color and sexuality and and just all everything is so diverse in fact we have we're so diverse that would like a petri dish because i was always coming with some exotic fucking flu bug were always sick all the time but these people you get the people you have you want them to kick ass you want them to go that extra mile by the way that is a very american thing

1:03:36 I don't have to ask anyone in our company if we're doing something to stay until six or seven. They're doing it because they want to do it and they want to be there and otherwise it usually doesn't work out pretty quickly. In Europe, are you kidding me? Five minutes to five. Hey, I got my coat on. I'm going home now. Yeah, we'll start again tomorrow. That is truly an American trait. Right, well I believe that's true because they have a different ethos. But the fact that what I'm, the point I'm trying to make is that when you run into one of these people that is just an astonishing worker that has gotten you out of the store faster by five minutes or more, you should say something to them. Of course. Because they really, and I've always found this to be the case.

1:04:17 If somebody gets a compliment out of the blue from somebody for doing a really good job, they love it. And it makes them better. Of course. But very few people do that. No, we've gotten into the culture of here's some money or here's a bullshit title. That's a good one. We're going to make you a VP, which means new business cards. Congratulations. By the way, every time anyone I know gets promoted like that, I would say, was that in lieu of pay? Yeah. You get no money. No, I got a cut in pay as a matter of fact. That's right. You know, when you're... but even at the gas station, man, anywhere, if someone's serving you, thank them.

1:04:59 Well, particularly if they are beating... A lot of these guys that I'd like to comment on, you can tell they're competitive. And they are trying to get... They're just doing... They're competitive. They're doing it... because they really like to compete. They want to be the best checker. Because what else is there to do? If you're working at a Costco check line with a bunch of 25 other people doing it, what else is there to, you know, you're just checking. But if you're like checking 10 times more people than anybody else, that's kind of cool. And it doesn't really take any, you're still there, you might as well just do it as best you can. Let me ask you a question. These are the people that need a compliment. So when you,

1:05:36 okay so here's here's a tough one when you encounter someone who is clearly not doing a good job of service do you do you I mean you just Get into major negative mode or do you say hey, you know, okay, you know, or do you say hey? Maybe if you did it this way, it would be a little bit more pleasurable for now. No, no, no, no, you can't do that I mean I tried today I went to a little place where they sell vegetables called Monterey foods and there's one grumpy old Chinese woman there that's older than anybody in the place and she doesn't like to work and I swear to God, everybody's got two or three people in all the lines and she's got nobody there. So I went in there and it's like she's yakking with somebody else in Cantonese and she doesn't know the prices. I don't know what she's even doing there. And she's slow and she sucks.

1:06:26 It's just horrible. And you know, what am I supposed to say to her? You suck. You suck, you old bitch. I mean, I couldn't do that. I mean, it's just like, I can't, there's nothing, you just don't go to her line. You just, you know, you compliment people for doing a good job, but you can't really say you suck to everybody who doesn't do a good job, because that's all you'd be doing all the time, because most people suck. A classic John C. Dvorak moment, ladies and gentlemen. Do you want to go out on a high or do you want to talk about food? Because that was just, that was too good, man. Well, we might as well quit because we got a bunch of food talk coming up. I was thinking about it. We got one restaurant or two maybe reviews in the can. And then we're going to try to do some stuff next week, maybe something tomorrow.

1:07:09 I was thinking about why do we do a lot of food talking. I was considering why do people care about us reviewing a restaurant in San Francisco. We have an international audience, there's people all over. And it's not... It's about the food, I think. It's not about the food. It's about the It's about the details of the you know it's like the deal what makes a good What people should be looking for or what we complain about I don't know what it is. What is something? I think people inherently realize you are what you eat and people are if people are switching on to the idea that we're eating crap We're just putting shit into our bodies and uh... i think there's a as part of that john i think people do care is part of this is also the one thing we do i think together on the legendary our own or a lot of our own what we have to do once in a while nobody else does it is that i think we're mad at i think we actually to can bring ourselves into a kind of an overview that

1:08:02 is maybe different than what anybody else does in this regard and I think it's entertaining enough they tolerate it. The only thing that I think will be a bummer for most of our non-U- pretty much everyone who is listening to this show I'm sure they watch the debate. The Europeans of course it was on the middle of the night So I wonder and you let us know you know how how it related How that worked for you because you probably only got to see some sound bites and those of course have already been filtered Because you know who's gonna sit through an hour and a half of a debate that isn't that isn't live anymore You know we're just gonna get all the sound bites. It'll be interesting to see what the the international audience thinks about this

1:08:46 You're back. Ah, there we go. I don't know what you caught. I think I dropped off. Well, anyway, John Wood say, coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, John C. Dvorak and my name's Adam Curry. We'll talk to you again real soon, right here on NO Agenda.