The Convincables

00:00 I'm gonna get you Vladimir, I'm gonna get you! Not even a nominee for the 2012 Let it Ono Peace Prize, but your loyal slave here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where apparently I'm mumbling, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Again one of those non sequiturs that people who didn't hear the pre-show just won't be able to appreciate.

00:39 Exactly. It's no good. Well, maybe I'll get a letterman does honey. He has no problems people don't complain Yeah, well, he also makes a what 20 million a year. Yeah, what's that's what I'm trying to say Yeah, that'll work My goodness my goodness so much going on and so good to be back at Camp Mofo here John Did you go any good restaurants in Chi town? Um, let me see we went to We went to this breakfast place, which I don't know if it's a chain or if it's a... Have you ever heard of Yolk? Yolk? I-O-L-K? Yeah. No, but the yolk's on you. That was really... that was a nice breakfast place. We... Let me see. We went to an Italian place. I can't remember. We had a burger at the Ralph Lauren restaurant. Just sounds like you went to nothing. Yeah, well, we did... it was work. You know, I show up, it was like...

01:43 We were tired and got up early, went to the conference and it turned out to be really good. So everything, the timing was all messed up and we stayed there for hours and hours just because we liked it. And that kind of messed up food and everything. On the way back though, nice from Chicago, We did our Austin trick and we went through the priority first class line at TSA with our coach tickets. I love doing that. You know, because it's funny and they even they even have an airport person standing there and with Mickey, I don't know man. She just goes like priority. Normally they want to see your ticket or something. Just goes priority and they're like OK and they opened the rope and we go right in.

02:36 You know if I do that it's like priority, like oh yeah? You get out douchebag. Oh yeah, why don't you show me your ticket douche? But she has an aristocratic look about her. But I think it's just the attitude. Well she's tall and she's aristocratic and she's got an attitude, right, exactly. It's like walking around, you grab a clipboard and you can go anywhere. If you're like, you know, you can just go into a factory, just walk in with a clipboard. We went to Blackburn. And a hard hat. You got it made. A hard hat. A hard hat and a clipboard. A hard hat. And you can go anywhere. It's true. And then we just walked through the magnetometer. There were two lines and they were shuttling everything. We just went up there, just went to the magnetometer. Oh, okay. Yeah, you come on through. So it was very nice going back. This is almost like the scene in the Star Wars movie.

03:30 Which one? These aren't the drones you're looking for kind of thing. Oh, okay, whatever. I do like, I'm gonna try the hard hat and the clipboard. I'm gonna see how far we can get with that next time. You're so right though. And just some kind of badge. Just something dangling on a rope around you. Yeah, actually a couple different badges and a couple card keys. Just all hanging in there. So even though it was really nice to be in Chicago, it was also fantastic to just be, you come back to Austin, just like, Just a breath of fresh air. At one of the hackers conferences, I ran into the guy who had one of these cards. They had deconstructed most airline personnel cards and they created these cards for the people that went to the conference. It wasn't a forgery at all. It was a complete reconstruction from scratch of what a card might be like.

04:24 and it had your picture and then it had a blue stripe, kind of a stripe that went from corner to corner and then it had a number. And it had all these things and it said you could get to the damnedest things with this card. Oh yeah, just by flashing it, right? Yeah. So I wasn't going to play this until later but now that we're talking about TSA, I got a number of clips from a rather long congressional or senate hearing I should say on Department of Homeland Security and we had Lucy Napolitano there, of course, representing the TSA. We had Olson, the director of the National Counterterrorism Unit, who we have to talk about later. And then Mueller himself wasn't there, but his assistant director for the FBI. And this is the Lieberman thing where he's in charge. And oh, man, he's such a dick.

05:17 He's just like, why don't you just go and blow these three people at the same time? Because that's all that this thing really was. Like, you're so great. We're so safe because of you. Thank you so much for your service. It's so fantastic. I love you. That's all that it is for like three hours. But Lucy, at the very end there, she came out talking about how awesome the new initiatives are for TSA. And I want to roll that clip out a little bit earlier in the show so we can enjoy that. Well, I think this the whole aviation sector demonstrates the necessity to have a layered approach so that if

05:56 someone or some group is able to evade one layer or another layer can pick them up and it... This is just like an onion, baby. It begins fundamentally with good intelligence. Good intelligence sharing with our international partners. So smart, you know, first she jerks everybody off and then she's gonna go jerk off herself to let you know how great she is. Good intelligence sharing within the aviation sector. Good intelligence sharing among the federal family. Oh, the federal family! Hold on. For the federal family! I'm just jerking the federal family. It goes to the standards that we Require for planes bound for the u.s.. Both for passengers and for cargo Yeah, we saw those at Amsterdam Airport where there's like nothing like oh you don't want to go through the scanner, okay? Whatever needs to be touching briefly all right. It's good. You know standards liar, and how we inspect those standards it goes to

06:48 What we ourselves require of airport and airport authorities that control, say, the perimeter of the airport. Oh, the perimeter. Getting closer to the real nitty-gritty here. We've had one or two instances of breach this last year. We've jumped on both of those. Doesn't it sound like a board meeting? You know how you have a bloody... You know the funny thing is I was I'm going to Seattle Airport. Mm-hmm. And they took the car rental thing which used to be just walk across the thing and right in the main parking lot right there you just walk across the terminal you go across the drive and you're in the car. Now you have a whole perimeter thing?

07:23 Now, no, worse than that. They've moved it like five miles away. You gotta get on a bus and then there's this huge facility that is like a joke because it's like empty but it's like huge and around the thing they've got this crazy kind of netting I guess to prevent if something explodes it gets caught in the netting. Oh, okay. Well when's the last time somebody blew up a car parking lot in the United States? What's this gonna protect? It's not gonna protect anything. I mean this is unbelievable. No, no, no, this is a perimeter. They're making all these airports do this perimeter craft. This is not unbelievable at all. Wait until we get to the good stuff. This isn't unbelievable. This is already believable because you know it. But now just go back to my thesis here that this sounds just like a Silicon Valley board members meeting.

08:14 Yeah, we had, and your revs were down, but we jumped on that, we took care of that right away, so everything's all groovy, it's gonna be a great quarter. Listen to it. Airport and airport authorities that control, say, the perimeter of the airport. We've had one or two instances of breach this last year, we've jumped on both of those. to see why and what corrective measures needed to be taken. Doesn't that sound just like a board meeting? Yeah, it does. The breach was some drunk, I think, who was wandering around the tarmac. Where's my buddies? He was put out there by some clowns. Hey, get out there. Those two, when you get into the airport...

08:51 What you see in the area before you get to the gate. What you may not see in the area before you get to the gate. Ooh, it's what we may not see because of course what we don't see is actually really there. It's the magical what you don't see but costs a lot of money stuff. The construction of the gate itself. Whoa! The construction of the gate itself. They're gonna change that apparently. What gate? The gate, where you go to the gate to board your plane. Why? Listen up. With the new technology. There's new technology coming. What new technology? Oh, it's the new technology that's very promising. It's on the way.

09:29 and then things that we are doing in those so-called sterile area where... It's like jamming strips of litmus paper in people's drinks. Even though we call it a sterile area, there's still a lot of work underway and different things that TSA does on different days at different times in different places. Let me just get this right. We have new technology coming at the gate in the sterile area, which is essentially after you've been through all of this bullcrap. Now they're doing different things on different days and different initiatives that we can't really talk about. But there's all kinds of things we're doing in the sterile area. Aren't you sterile? No, she's saying it's even though we call it the sterile area, we still have work to do to increase security, so to increase security.

10:22 We're on the wrong side of this game. It's an entire layered approach. One of the things I think has really helped and I think American passengers will begin seeing the benefits if they haven't already. Oh, oh, benefits! Benefits coming! Hold on! What benefits? What benefits? What are you talking about? What benefits do you have of being harassed? No, no, no! You're not on board with the program! Hey, listen up for your benefits, slave! is moving to a risk-based approach where if we have pre-knowledge of a traveler and we have their biometrics they will be you know they are able to go through the air... She's just blathering.

11:06 or go through customs whatever more quickly. So they want your biometrics because you're holding up the line. So we're really encouraging that that takes pressure off of the lines. Take pressure off, you know, you're not a good citizen if you don't get your if you don't hand over your biometric data and take pressure off the lines. Second thing that's going on is a lot of technology research to see if In this country where we have the world's best scientists and engineers, we can devise a system that's even more efficient for travelers and yet deals with the evolving threat. Research cycles take time... Evolving threat? Yes, evolving! What evolving threat? It's evolving! It's getting bigger every day! ...that's even more efficient for travelers and yet deals with the evolving threat.

11:57 research cycles take time but there is some very interesting work underway in that regard. Very, very. But she says nothing. There's very interesting work underway in that regard. But as you know, John, research cycles take time. This is what I mean. The whole thing was one big blowjob but our Senate. Oh yeah. Is Micah there? No, no, no, this is this is Lieberman's thing man. This is a very small group and he's got Lieberman's and he's and he's stay listen to he has he has The guy from Hawaii Coco or Kokomo whatever his name is in you a no no no it's a real loser Yeah, they got kaka kaka. That's the guy kaka and he kaka don't know cuckoo. He's just like I'd like I took a It sounds like you know he doesn't speak English

12:54 He literally does not speak English, this guy. But we'll get to him later. Actually, I could just play. Just listen to Lieberman, be so afraid. Here's his intro to this thing. Represent the most significant reforms of America's national security organizations since the 40s, 1940s. You guys rock. At the beginning of the Cold War. And it's not coincidental since after 9-11 we understood that we were facing a very different threat to our national security and with an intensity that we hadn't experienced through most of American history a very real threat to our homeland. What intensity? During the 70s they were hijacking planes left and right and flying them to Cuba. They were hijacking embassies. As many of us might recall. And they didn't go through this rigmarole at that time, this crazy fascist thing? But dig this,

13:51 And it's not nearly as intense as it was back then. But here he is, here's Lieberman going, guys, you're so awesome, I really appreciate what you're doing. Security. So as I look back, I really want to again thank you, your predecessors in each of these roles on the FBI. Bob Mueller's pretty... They gave him a special badge. Of course, he's gonna blow Bob Mueller. That Mueller wasn't there. No, no, that's why he's blowing him. On the FBI, Bob Mueller's pretty much been there the whole time. Yeah, he's pretty much been responsible for all this bull crap. I mean, how coincidental, why are we laughing about this guy? Is that the Bob Mueller that was supposed to be, because of the problem with the FBI having the... Ten year limits?

14:40 10-year limits, they're still in because the guy who came in two months before 9-11, by coincidence, and then they extended his stay after the set term of 10 years. Yeah, that guy, that Bob Mueller. and hangs out at Facebook that's the guy thousands of employees who were our under you because I think under your question because of all that the three organizations represented here before us have done the American people have been much

15:24 safer here at home than we otherwise would have been. We the American people would have been. What evidence is there for this? What evidence is there for that accusation, for that assertion? That we're much safer, much much safer. Well let's listen. If you had not existed. If you had not existed. In fact if Janet Napolitano had not been conceived we would not be this safe. So With a lot of gratitude, I thank you for that remarkable transformation. We've made a lot of progress. We've kept the enemy away for most of the last 11 years, the most significant, in a different way, the most lethal

16:13 Threats and attacks on our homeland have actually been carried out as we know by homegrown terrorists Hassan in Fort Hood and blood so I find it very interesting that the only two homegrown attacks he mentions are Fort Hood and and the one in Arizona he doesn't mention anything else at the Army recruiting station in Little Rock and And the one in Arizona, what happened? That was a terrorist attack. It was some guy trying to kill someone. It's like calling every murder in Oakland a terrorist attack. It was Arkansas, I'm sorry. Little Rock, Arkansas, not Arizona. Oh, well, same thing. But you know, the battle goes on. And it's hard to reach a conclusion other than it will go on for a long time. Obviously we hold this hearing today.

17:01 Um, still... For a very long time, obviously. It's obvious this is gonna go on for a very, very long, long, long time. Be very, very, very afraid. Squirrel! There's more, but we'll get to that later. In the morning to you, John C. DeMora. It's kind of a disgusting... I don't want to talk about that anymore. It's depressing. No, you'll want to talk about it. Good morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, and feet in the air, along with our No Agenda Knights who are out there religiously helping us. Yes, and we will be talking about it more because we have to talk about Olsen.

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19:29 for the artwork on the previous episode of the No Agenda podcast, the best podcast in the universe. I suggest before we continue assassinating the media, John, let us thank, hopefully, a producer or two for... Two. Literally two. Luckily one of them was an instant night, so let's thank our producers for today's show for four six Patrick Wilson of Canyon Lake, California $1,000 guys I need a combo karma for the wife an Italian shut up slave for the bullshit chemo She has to go through again really loving the macroeconomic angle you've been throwing around They'll never be able to print enough money to fill the black hole of credit collapse My guess is a debt Jubilee would fix it

20:12 Which is true, and you know imagine what kind of awesome infrastructure we could have build with the money They gave to the banks anyway. I love you guys Pat so well first Let me do it wanted a Italian girl shut up slave karma. Is that what he wanted? Yeah, okay? I think I got that here Okay You've got karma I've never no one she's done little Italian. It's my niece little Italian girl. That is my niece a Sabina. Oh Yeah, she's got a good sounding voice. So this and I've been thinking about this I think is it not in the Bible somewhere that every 50 years there should be a What do you call it a a debt Jubilee

21:04 I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think JC would know he's a student. He's a religious no No, I think debt Jubilee. Yeah, I think I think it's in the Bible that should be every 50 years There should be let's see debt Jubilee Christianity. Here we go in the biblical book of Leviticus a Jubilee years mentioned to occur every 50 years in which slaves and prisoners would be free. Hey This is for us Let the slaves free! But think about it, isn't it about time that we should... let's see... Proving that we're not a Christian nation after all. In Christianity the tradition dates to 1300 and Pope Boniface the 8th

21:51 convoked a holy year following which ordinary Jubilees have generally been celebrated every 25 or 50 years, with extraordinary Jubilees in addition depending on need, like now. Christian Jubilees, particularly in the Catholic tradition, generally involve pilgrimage to a sacred site, normally the city of Rome. I think this is a very good idea. I want to put this in the show notes. We should be telling Romney should do this. Romney should do it, he won't do it. You know, and the funny thing is he probably could win the election if he came out and said he wouldn't do that. If he came up with this idea, it's a great idea. Don't you think? Yeah! I mean, he wants to really win the election. Just get rid of everyone's debt, but let us know so I can go rack up some debt first.

22:30 So look, here's what's going to happen if you elect me. I'm going to, we're going to take all the next trash of quantitative easing will be sent to the public to pay off all your bills and you'll be home free, you'll be debt free if you elect me. Wow. Debt free if you elect me. There's your little saying. Wow, and you got a bumper sticker? I should. Wow, this is a great idea. Debt free if you elect me. And that would be much less than the 10 trillion dollars you actually want to infuse. Yeah, probably. And uh, but if he, if, here's what would happen. I would go out. This is a great plan because I would... Can you imagine if he actually did that? Yeah. And somebody voted against him? What? It is. He was shooting you. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Are you out of your mind? No, everyone will go get a mortgage immediately. No, you can't get a mortgage. What do you mean I can't get a mortgage? The banks won't give you the mortgage. I got a small one. Just, house, how about a car loan? How about a car loan? I can get a car loan. Maybe.

23:30 But they'd probably retroactively, they wouldn't let you get away with that. That's kind of against the whole idea. Oh, alright, well then screw it. Then I'm voting for... This is why they won't do stuff like this because Americans immediately scam the system. Scam everybody. Then I'm voting for Obama. Screw Romney. I'm not doing it. I'm voting for Gary Johnson, so screw you. I know, I'm voting for Gary Johnson. You know I am. You know I'm not going to vote for Obama. I'm not going to vote for Romney either. Unless he comes up with a debt-free thing. That's a good idea. Yeah, debt-free, vote for me. So Patrick Wilson, thank you very much and great idea Patrick, you've put us on to something here and I think... Hey, you know what? What are we thinking? This is our campaign for 2016. Debt-free, vote for AC and JCD. Yeah, it could work.

24:24 Meanwhile Paul Richardson's from Richfield, Minnesota that came in with $333.33 He'll be our second executive producer for show 446 and he writes in first-time donor long time as in every minute of every show since the begging boner I have been wanting to donate all along, but I've been struggling to keep up the mortgage payments on my submarine I think he went beginning not not begging Okay, he means beginning There's every minute of every show since the beginning. He says begeg-begeg-begigiging. Read it as begigening.

25:02 I've been wanting to donate all along and I've been struggling. Fortunately, I was able to refinance recently through a program called a HARP. Dropping 2.5 percentage points and getting to skip one month's payment has done wonders for my cash flow. I found last Thursday's show somewhat upsetting when Adam revealed his upcoming travel plans. He says, I am coming to Austin next weekend for a scooter rally and I was hoping to take Mr. and Mrs. Hot Pockets out for dinner on Sunday night. He needs any curiously by coincidence he needs the Italian shut up slave to do the head and a Travel karma, okay, we got that here You've got karma so what scooter rally is happening in Austin? I hate it when

25:58 When we go out of tech, because we're leaving on Wednesday, we're going to Los Angeles. Yeah, scooter rally, the fourth annual scooter rally. There you go. What's a scooter rally? It gets people to ride around on scooters. You ride around on them anyway. Yeah, but they do September 28th through 30th. It looks fun, man. We just do fun things. You don't always have to have a reason like in Berkeley. You have to have a meeting and a commission and permission. And we just do stuff here. We're weird. This rally is open to any and all scooters. Perfect! Are these the ones you push? No. The little lightning thing, what are those things called? No, no. These are like Piaggios. Well, if you want to, you can do that. You may be a little behind. I think they pretty much mean... How about those little things with the motor on them? Yeah, the Solex you mean? How about a...

26:55 What? Yeah, so let's be a good example, but how about a that thing that you stand it's got the two wheels on either side and he falls over all the time. How you segue? Segway? No, that's not a scooter. Huh? No, it's just this is for people who are who like classic Piaggio scooters. I think I'm a Vespas Vespas. Yeah Vespas. Well, Group rides, that's nice cool. Well. I wonder if he's driving his scooter from wherever he's coming. Where's he from probably hauling in a soda right now And so he gave us three hundred and thirty three dollars and thirty three cents perfect The quintuple five donation, and that's it yeah, I think we're losing our audience. I think really do you I mean Are you just making a joke or you really mean it?

27:45 I don't know. I don't know. I think that a lot of them have gone or they're way behind. I think a lot of people are way behind and they don't listen to old please. You know what? I think you're right. I think what happens when people are behind and they listen to shows, they think, oh, they probably all worked out. Yeah, there are some people that are at least a month behind on the shows. And then they just they just Google me. It's like, no, they're still on the air. It worked out. I don't have to donate. That's a possibility. And the other thing is a lot of people have had their donations plunged by the PayPal people. I got a note the other day from a guy. He says, well you guys hate me now? That's what he's talking about. And he showed the note saying that we canceled his subscription. I know. How does this work? Why does it say that?

28:34 Don't know we've never cancelled anybody subscription ever. Yeah, what are we stupid? Yeah, really we'd have to be idiots and what would be the point? Oh, I don't like that. Oh, this is my name is Smith his money Money is stinky. We don't like his money. He's from Canada. We don't take it away I know it's crazy, but I bet you that's exactly what's happening John I Bet you people are you know what we should do. We should start deleting these episodes we lost Yes, this is what we have to do is like hey. It lost the sick. Yeah. Yeah, we lost six people this week Wow really that's a failure wow that's huge it can we get him back or do we can't even all they have to if they go and look in their accounts and

29:19 they would figure it out. I mean we had that one person that complained or said, well I can't figure out how to unsubscribe, I want to, I can't afford the subscription anymore. I need to cancel, cancel for me, cancel for me. So I went through all the trouble of, I had to dig because it's, you gotta do a lot of work to figure out the name in the PayPal account. First I looked on the regular spreadsheet, couldn't find them. So I went to the PayPal, they hadn't been paying anything since last year. They were kicked off and they didn't know it. I found that kind of annoying. Yeah, it's extremely annoying. Okay, so I think if your name is Smith, if you're from Canada, your money's no good here. Forget it, you're done. Get out. Your money's no good with us. And two, we're going to start deleting episodes. We'll just keep them up for a week and just get rid of it.

30:12 Trap-a-loma. Alright, well we do of course appreciate Patrick Wilson who will be knighted today, who will become a Noah Jen the Knight and obviously he's the executive producer for today's episode, Instant Knight. And Paul Richardson, obviously we're very, very happy about your associate... No, he's an executive producer, not even associate, he's executive. Yeah, you got no associates today. Yeah, no associates. And just looking through the spreadsheet, looks like the donation segment will be relatively short. But that means you get that much more show! Is our model great? Give us less money, you get more show. Actually, they get the same show, they just... They get less total time. Yeah, we're great. Well, it's a doozy, I can tell you that. And we need you to formula, please! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. What is Buzzkill Jr. trying to tell me? That won't work, the fans have their own database. Oh.

31:23 Could you just tell your son that this humor like nanu nanu It's a joke JC. He's older now because it's his birthday yesterday, so he's now he's serious Dude is it we're not really going to stop. We're not really gonna delete old episodes. You're kind of like it's just a joke okay, it's like I'm gonna delete this. Oh, well, hey, you know what we did a show you can't say we didn't do a show so I Talking about since you have Nepalitano there for a while. Let me I want to play a clip Yeah, which the apparently they want the military to take over and

32:07 And I think the military's going to end up taking over the TSA or they're going to make the TSA into the military or something like that. Oh really? Because, well I'm just going by this story which was run on about the, it was Shepard Smith, Shep. Shep. Shep Smith. Shep. Talking about the military taking over guarding the nuclear facilities and not talking about the reactors but places where they store the material. And I just thought this was a funny story. Okay. This move after anti-war activists successfully broke into a nuclear facility in July. It's a site that was supposed to be one of the most secure in all the country.

31:23 Could you just tell your son that this humor like nanu nanu It's a joke JC. He's older now because it's his birthday yesterday, so he's now he's serious Dude is it we're not really going to stop. We're not really gonna delete old episodes. You're kind of like it's just a joke okay, it's like I'm gonna delete this. Oh, well, hey, you know what we did a show you can't say we didn't do a show so I Talking about since you have Nepalitano there for a while. Let me I want to play a clip Yeah, which the apparently they want the military to take over and

32:07 And I think the military's going to end up taking over the TSA or they're going to make the TSA into the military or something like that. Oh really? Because, well I'm just going by this story which was run on about the, it was Shepard Smith, Shep. Shep. Shep Smith. Shep. Talking about the military taking over guarding the nuclear facilities and not talking about the reactors but places where they store the material. And I just thought this was a funny story. Okay. This move after anti-war activists successfully broke into a nuclear facility in July. It's a site that was supposed to be one of the most secure in all the country.

32:43 The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Congressman Mike Turner, drafted legislation to put the Pentagon in charge of security at those sites, a job the Energy Department handles now. During the July incident, officials say three activists successfully broke into the nuclear weapons complex in Tennessee, and one of them was an 82-year-old nun. Also, if you are an 82-year-old nun, you are banned from listening to this program. We don't want any of yous either. Now here's the deal, besides that story, I don't know if it was this story or a bunch of stories I picked up off of RT or one of the international broadcasts. Everybody is freely using the term activist. It's a complete meme now. Because in Syria, in fact I have a couple of clips on this but we can get to them later unless we want to talk about Syria for a minute, or Libya.

33:38 Activists, everyone's calling everyone, if you're involved with anything you're an activist and they're trying to make it pejorative. What does pejorative mean? That means to make it an evil word, so if you're an activist you're evil, you're a troublemaker. Oh, so we are cyber activists, you and I. Apparently. Yes, okay, alright. So the one I was looking at was, okay play this one which I thought was funny. Pakistan riots burn theater. Meanwhile in Pakistan police say two movie theaters have been set on fire by protesters in the city of Peshawar. Now this comes as the Pakistani government calls for a day of love for the Prophet Muhammad in attempts to put a stop to recent protests. These are some of the latest images from Islamabad.

34:27 The US has also spent some $70,000 on adverts in Urdu in attempts at quelling tensions which of course broke out over the online video mocking the Prophet last week. Okay, I have some clips that relate to this directly. Yeah, let's talk about this for a minute because this is getting actually quite funny and I love the idea that we're taking TV ads And before you get to your clip, I just have one clip which is the one, just play the clip drones keep coming because this is the reason they're protesting. It's got nothing to do with that stupid movie. Pakistan has persistently asked the US to stop launching the missile strikes, a request the US continues to ignore. Don't drone me bro!

35:09 They're just droning people in Pakistan. The Pakistanis hate that. And so they're upset and they're using this phony baloney film that nobody's seen as an excuse. And we're taking ads out. So I saw the ad. What's interesting about this ad is they put it on the Libyan embassy website, which let me just get you, it doesn't matter if you get the address or not because they ran out of bandwidth. On, uh, I guess they, the State Department, they got some really crappy, uh, hosting thing? Hosting service? Really? Yeah, yeah, and they, because I've been, because I wanted to see the original that they pointed to from their Facebook page. Um, here it is. It's, uh, USM... Yeah, I got it for you right now. It's US... Uh, it's really, uh, really weird URL. Oh, crap, I'm sorry.

36:11 Anyway, it's almost irrelevant, but it's it's usm lib dot something or other impossible I mean it really is really quite stupid and you just get a 590 sorry that we're out of bandwidth so you can't even see it there anymore, but I did I did see a A different version with kind of like a funny translation below it and it's really it's really just a Lucifer and the president in the Rose Garden then it's Lucifer doing her thing and I have it somewhere but more interesting was the State Department press briefing when our buddy Matt and we love Matt who's always he's like he's the John C. Dvorak of the State Department Press Corps he

36:54 he says, okay, so you did this PSA, so what did that do for you? And of course, Newland is coming up with all kinds of bull crap, and it's nice to see that he's not having any of it. The Dan you mentioned, what's the initial feedback you've gotten to your, from? So it's a setup, right? What's the feedback been? What have people thought? I mean, how dumb is she, right? Because you're like, what's going on? What do you think? From the airing of this, I think it's, I mentioned to you yesterday that we were only beginning to be able to measure metrics. I don't think... Oh, John, we have to measure metrics. Metrics?

36:11 Anyway, it's almost irrelevant, but it's it's usm lib dot something or other impossible I mean it really is really quite stupid and you just get a 590 sorry that we're out of bandwidth so you can't even see it there anymore, but I did I did see a A different version with kind of like a funny translation below it and it's really it's really just a Lucifer and the president in the Rose Garden then it's Lucifer doing her thing and I have it somewhere but more interesting was the State Department press briefing when our buddy Matt and we love Matt who's always he's like he's the John C. Dvorak of the State Department Press Corps he

36:54 he says, okay, so you did this PSA, so what did that do for you? And of course, Newland is coming up with all kinds of bull crap, and it's nice to see that he's not having any of it. The Dan you mentioned, what's the initial feedback you've gotten to your, from? So it's a setup, right? What's the feedback been? What have people thought? I mean, how dumb is she, right? Because you're like, what's going on? What do you think? From the airing of this, I think it's, I mentioned to you yesterday that we were only beginning to be able to measure metrics. I don't think... Oh, John, we have to measure metrics. Metrics?

37:33 We don't have a metrics for you just yet. I mean, what is this? What are you running? A Web 2.0 company? Some metrics. How about the engagement? Did you have deep engagement on the PSA? I think it's going to be realistic to give you kind of a metric report on our efforts in this week. OK, this was a mistake, Victoria, because here comes Matt. You're aware that the embassy posted a link to this ad on its Facebook page? Are you aware of what the embassy says about the comments that have been posted? Why don't you just tell me, dickhead? Overwhelmingly negative. And in fact, I went on and looked at some of these comments, a lot of which couldn't be repeated publicly. It was 100. They say they had a... Overwhelmingly negative. Oh yeah. All of them were negative. At least 155,000 views of this ad.

38:29 And that the response the comments that they have gotten are quote overwhelmingly negative And I'm just wondering if you take a look at that and that would seem to be a pretty early metric although We got your early metric right here, and we didn't stop there obviously it's I guess it's limited. This is going to be the best spin you've ever heard, which is crazy, but she's doing pretty good. What you can actually tell from the, you know, who is actually responding to it and it's a self-selecting group of response, but that would seem to be an early metric that you could judge the effect in this by. Well, again, I haven't looked at what you're looking at. I will. It's on Facebook. I will do a little bit of research on that. I haven't been on Facebook, let's see, since breakfast.

39:21 But what I will say is that what we're seeing throughout this is that we have a lot of We have people who are okay. She's got it now. Did you hear her thinking like how am I gonna spin out of this one? I've got it now most vocal are on the most extreme side of it and we have these silent majorities who are staying home not participating and not getting on Facebook and putting up negative comments. So here's what she's saying. She's saying the majority of people are silent. They're not demonstrating, they're not protesting, they're staying home and they're not on Facebook. And these are the people who are with us.

40:12 not associating themselves with these things. So it's obviously early to look at whether the methods that we've used to try to reach Pakistanis have been effective, but we'll have to look at this then. So you're looking at the protests not as several hundred thousand people gathered, but that several million people decided to stay home. Oh brother, this guy's... We have to get his whole name and who he works for. And I just want to buy him a beer. Yeah, everyone should buy him a beer. He's great. I'm going to be in DC right after we do the LA trip for Miss Nikki's. Track him down. I got to get this guy a beer. Or two beers. He's great. He's probably the guy that really gets hammered after work. You know what I mean? Yeah, you don't know. He has kind of that look.

41:00 I got her today. One did nothing. Oh yeah, we definitely we got some points there. So anyway, Lucifer, clippity-clop Hillary Clinton in rare, rare form, because in order to complete the whole campaign of which we're getting ready for our metrics based measurement of engagement approach, she had the foreign minister of Pakistan over. And can I just say something about the Pakistani foreign minister? She is smoking hot. That's one mother. I'd like to You must google her she is beautiful Okay, she has a and now her voice is a little frightening because she talks like a transvestite, but I She and Lucien's

41:48 No, I don't think so. I don't think so. So Lucifer comes out and she does. In fact, I got to play her jingle because she was in rare, in rare Clippity-Clop form. I mean, she did her name proud. When she came into the room, she did a double clippity-clop. Here it is. It's clippity-clop! The message is clear. Double clippity-clop! And she looks a lot like Hillary's girlfriend. Yes, she looks like whom-a. Oh, there she talks like a butch head-diba. It looks like Huma. She's beautiful. I mean, she is absolutely stunningly beautiful. And, well, let's just listen to the... She's like a ball buster to me. Oh yeah, when you hear her talk, you know she is. But here's the doors open. There's those double doors. And here it comes. Now she walks, now she hits the carpet. Go, go! Clippity-cloppity-clippity-clop! Good afternoon. And let me begin by

42:50 Thank you. meet in Islamabad and other settings, but I'm very pleased that we would have this chance to exchange views on our bilateral relationship as well as regional and global issues. And I think this is where she finally admits that it was a terrorist attack on the embassy. Yesterday afternoon when I briefed the Congress I made it clear that keeping our people Everywhere in the world, safe is our top priority.

43:33 What happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack and we will not rest until we have tracked down and brought to justice the terrorists who murdered four Americans. Terrorists, okay. So this is a little... I thought it was a protest over a movie and by the way I have this suspicion that when they came up with this bogus movie excuse and the things went out of control, spiraled out of control around the world, they were going, oh that was a bad idea. They're trying to salvage it. Well, and I have some intel on that, but I do want to play a little bit of this smoking hot foreign minister. Again, her voice is a little bit frightening, but she basically, she was there to thank Hillary for a special gift that we have given. Madam Secretary, we also have room to cooperate as we have cooperated in the energy sector. You know, you're right. I think she may be a man. You hear that voice?

44:31 It's a possibility. Okay, we go on. It's the energy sector. Madam Secretary, we also have room to cooperate as we have cooperated in the energy sector. Allow me to share with you that with the assistance of the United States, we will be adding a few hundred megawatts to the Pakistani grid. Now, how does this work? Did Hillary come down to Islamabad and say, hey, I got some megawatts with me? I have no idea. Does she explain it? No, oh no no no no no no no just thanks dear. Thanks for the megawatts here. We hope this cooperation will extend further and we will see US cooperation even in Bhasha Dam which is clearly a consensus project in Pakistan. Defense cooperation has already worked well and we hope that this will be enhanced as we move forward. Madam Secretary, perhaps today the strongest convergence of interests that we have

45:24 is not in any of these bilateral tracks but in Afghanistan because Afghanistan today presents a common challenge to both the countries we are of course concerned the reports that we hear from Afghanistan we are concerned. Afghanistan is what she's saying, Afghanistan but that's Afghanistan but she pronounces Afghanistan of some of the infiltration which is coming from Afghanistan inside Pakistan we are all also concerned about the security situation and I think that the United States and Pakistan today have a unique opportunity to be able to work together to ensure that there's no security vacuum left in Afghanistan as we go through transition, that the Afghan people are able to decide for their own future and live as a sovereign independent country which is a source of stability and peace

46:16 in the region for the next 30 years. So here's the way I read it. She's talking about Afghanistan and this can only be, I presume the pipeline is online. I guess the megawatts are coming from the TAPI pipeline because I don't understand how America has handed over megawatts unless it's coming from Afghanistan which she wants to keep free through, of course, with drones because she's on board with the program. So thanks for the hundreds of megawatts. And we're gonna keep on... It's funny because you have a varying number of megawatts, but it looks like most people agree it's 500. 500 megawatts? That they're getting in addition? They're getting 500 megawatts from some... Hey, but you don't just... It's something to do with India that we brokered. We brokered a deal so they get some more juice. Oh, so the... Wait a minute, but aren't we supposed to be delivering juice to India? Isn't it supposed to go the other way? India is the one that has the juice problem. They have big blackouts.

47:16 I'm trying to figure this out from what's available. It's weird, isn't it? Anyway, so then Lucifer turns around and did you see they're both wearing the blue, they coordinated their blue outfits? No, I didn't see that video. Ban on investment has also been removed. India has agreed to provide tariff concessions to 264 items over the next three years and has agreed to transfer 500 megawatts of electricity from Amritsar to Lahore. Huh. So maybe Hillary thought, she was like, where's the whore? I'll give you 500 megabots for that whore you keep talking about. So she then turns to, so this goes on a little bit and it doesn't even work anymore. I was going to say then Hillary said, It's almost too delicious to believe my friend. My setup was already blown. Yeah, you blew, that was juicy moment. I screwed it up a long time ago.

48:21 So anyway, so I found that to be rather interesting in light of how all of this has come down over the past few days. And it seems like every country in the world is now jumping on the bandwagon, like, we've got to be able to do... I mean, come on, we can't just have these guys get all the goodness out of... Crap, my system is broken, John. Okay. I don't know, it's like something got really... Uh-oh, this is not good. Make a time note. Well, my mouse just broke. Your mouse broke? Yeah, there's no evidence I need it anyway.

49:06 You do? Here it is. Canada is jumping on the bandwagon with this whole video. An Egyptian prosecutor has accused two Canadian men of having ties to the video, both deny any involvement and fear their lives are in danger. As Natalie Collada reports, at least one of them has sought police protection. So now there's... Oh please. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, and this is CBC. So now there's two to Egyptian guys in Canada who were saying, oh yeah. Nader Fawzi walked into this Toronto police station hoping to find some protection. I think about it, there is no safety at all. When this fatwa is published, anyone can come to

49:51 kill me or my kids or even my family in Egypt. Last week Fawzi got a call from his family in Egypt. They told him his name had appeared in Egyptian media along with another Canadian Jacques Attala. Both are alleged to be involved in the controversial video the innocence of Muslims. Fawzi denies he has any connection to the video. There is no evidence because I never saw more than four minutes only from this movie. They are putting my name falsely, framing me falsely of participating in this movie against Muslims.

50:28 The video has ignited violent protests around the world. In Benghazi, the US ambassador was killed. Shame, shame USA! And it just goes on a little bit about how the Canadians are now rioting against the movie. But here is the fascinating thing that popped up just at the beginning of the weekend. There's this YouTube guy and he goes by the YouTube name of Montagraph and It's his 20-minute video, and it's well worth watching. It's just him. It's one of these where he just has his face on the camera Yeah, I'm ranting ranting okay, but he went through The changes of the name of this video as it was released you know several months ago first it was what was it the

51:22 What was the initial name? Desert something or other. And then it changed to the real life of Muhammad and then it changed to the innocence of Bin Laden and then it changed to the innocence of Islam and then it changed to the innocence of Muslims. So it continued to change names until finally the innocence of Muslims apparently hit and then it took off. So what this guy did is he went back and he tracked where this video changed names on which different YouTube channels. And he kept running up against this one particular one. Actually it was two different ones but owned by the same YouTube name. It's sort of fascinating to see how he went through all of this. News Politics Now and News Politics Leaks.

52:16 And so he did all these, he did a trademark search, couldn't find it, he did all kinds of searches and then there was a little logo for News Politics Now and he did an image search, a Google image search and he has all these links in his YouTube pages, you can actually see it. This sounds like a good job of investigating. It's a very good job of investigating. And why hasn't the media done this? Why is some joker on YouTube doing this? Well, what he came up with was what blew me away, what has blown everybody away who has seen this guy's video. So he does the NPN and the NPL, so News Politics Leaks and News Politics Now, and he does an image search. You know, Google, you can just upload an image and then it will come back. It will try. And it came back with Stanley Inc. Stanley Inc. from their Wikipedia page, which was acquired by the CGI Group in 2010.

53:08 They went public in 2006. The company's largest customers, the US Army, also hold contracts with the US Marine Corps, US Navy, Department of State, and Department of Homeland Security. Ah, spook contractors. But wait, it operates facilities for the production of United States passports and for mailroom work and data entry applications for US visa and citizenship. There was a rather controversial issue with this company. As this was the outfit that went in and accessed then candidate Obama's passport records. You remember that? Oh yeah, we talked about it. These were the guys that did that.

53:50 So this is a total spook company who was just sitting there changing the name, trying to get it right until it finally hit. And they tried Bin Laden, well everyone knows the guy's dead so no one's jumping on that one. They tried Islam and they finally came up with Muslims then it hit. They were just changing the name over and over again. And it makes so much sense. Yeah, well I think on our last show we discussed the I mean one of the Imams in the Middle East said it was intelligence agencies behind this thing. And then that was poo-pooed by every news outlet in the United States. Idiots! How crazy can you be? How crazy! In fact, here's Kudlow and here's another thing I caught which no one has done any reporting on.

54:40 But first up, after nine days, the U.S. government is finally calling the consulate attack in Benghazi an act of terrorism. The FBI now on the ground in Libya. Now listen carefully. NBC's Ayman Mohaddin joins us now from Beirut, Lebanon with all the latest. Good evening, Ayman. Good evening Larry, yeah the FBI has arrived in Tripoli, Libya where they are carrying out the investigation. We know they've already interviewed some of the survivors of that attack in Germany before arriving to Libya. Certainly on the ground there they... Now did you hear that? What he just said? Yeah I didn't hear, I never heard that before. So what I just heard him say was the FBI has interviewed some of the survivors in Germany?

55:23 So I go looking, I'm like, wait a minute. Something must have happened here. September 13th, here's the report from CBS This Morning with Charlie Rose. A radical Islamic group called Ansar al-Sharia is, according to US officials, the leading suspect in the attack. The name means supporters of Islamic law. And US officials describe it as an offshoot of Al Qaeda. At least one of the attackers was photographed at the scene. And Libyan officials claim to have already made arrests. Attorney General Eric Holder cut short an overseas trip to return to Washington. And a law enforcement source said the FBI would begin the investigation by interviewing the 30 American survivors of the attack who are now at a US military base in Germany. There were 30 survivors? And now we're September 23rd. This is 10 days ago?

56:24 that this report was out there and no one is like in Germany saying, hello can I interview some of these survivors? This reminds me, for some reason, see this Al Sharia thing seems like for one thing a front that's bullcrap. And I have a clip that gave me, kind of indicated that this, I believe was on Russia Today. But again, because Russia Today has been bringing out... Russia Today, which has its own network now, has been bringing out a lot of offbeat news stories that are obviously designed to humiliate the Americans. Even though nobody seems to notice, because nobody watches. But play my clip, Al Sharia rousted by Libyans. A mass protest in support of the Libyan government has swept the Islamist militia... Wait, stop, stop, stop.

57:14 I'm sorry, this is China TV. This is from China. Al-Sharia from its military base in Benghazi. The protests have left at least three people dead and 30 others injured. Looters carried weapons out of the compound after it was abandoned by fighters. Scores of demonstrators earlier stormed Ansar al-Sharia's main base on Friday. The action appeared to be part of a coordinated sweep of militia bases by the police, government troops and activists. And Sa'ad Sharia has been linked to last week's attack on the US consulate in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador. But the group has denied involvement. Yeah, I love how in Syria she's like, uh, hey guys, we gotta press pause on this one for a second. We all gotta go over here and do this one for a minute.

58:04 Okay, so I'm watching this and by the way, I'm thinking that he's the word activist to a moment. I think activists might actually mean intelligence field operatives Yeah, well, that's what it seems to be. Yeah, so but anyway, here's what the scenario was a group of police locals and an activist and all these other guys got together a couple thousand people and supposedly stormed the El Sharia compound and all the El Sharia guys ran off and Yeah, they disappeared into the woodwork and apparently they had caught none of them. I'm afraid, I'm so afraid. And so there's two things, one I don't believe this group ever existed but we played a couple clips before and it was always they show a guy with an AK-47 and it's a dangerous group but also we're blaming them. What Arab, any of these groups in the Middle East

58:55 that are trying to get a name for themselves have ever denied doing something unless they didn't do it. But also the name... They're always bragging about it. But the name Al-Shariah, I mean, this is such... It must be a made-up name. Yeah, it refers to the Sharia law. Yeah. And it's supposed to be those for their promoting Sharia law. This is bogus. This is a bogus. This is just bull crap. Do they have a logo or a website or something? Yeah, they had a logo and a couple crossed AK-47s. I mean, it's got nothing to do with anything. The whole thing was, I think this... I still go back to our original assertion that this whole thing was a botched operation that we had something to do with and ended up killing us.

59:37 You know, there's a the I was reading the insider the over the Ulsterman thingy there and what the insider says he believes that the first of all the whole title of ambassador was kind of a joke for this guy because he the this Stevens he is the guy that sold, that did the deal and brought in all the weapons and gave it to the so-called Al-Qaeda groups to go and kick out Gaddafi. And now that everything's back in place, the guy was coming back and that's why he had some of these SEALs who, from the reports that are out there, were also on a weapons recovery mission.

1:00:23 So he was there to do a deal and say, OK, we'll pay you whatever. Now we have to have all the weapons back because we can't have these American made, American delivered weapons all over the Middle East killing people because we already have this fast and furious with Mexico. It's just not a good idea if we have guns that we walked in here and they're not supposed to be here. Maybe the guns were stored at this El Sharia headquarters and this operation that we just played the clip of was the recovery operation. Very possible. Very very possible because they dropped the word activists and yeah, guys ran off. They couldn't find him It's just one digit, but they grabbed all the guns so apparently that's what happened the deal went bad And that's when Stevens and these guys got killed you know cuz it's hard. You know you give someone a gun They're like I don't think I want to give it back anymore. I knew him some man pads all this groovy stuff. I Don't think we had some rocket launchers. Yeah, I don't think I want to give that back. Oh

1:01:18 So that's what the insider says and I tend to believe that is a good theory. And you know, just all around the whole thing. So it's really there isn't it is truly a psychological warfare though. When you see these, I mean, we're doing PSAs, and we're pointing to them from Facebook. And we're just making crap up. And meanwhile, the poor American people What did we get? Oh my god, this made me so nauseous. Saturday Night Live, which is if you've ever been to the United States on vacation, you probably see it on Saturday night, usually during the season, but they have reruns at 1130. They have this live comedy show and a lot of famous comedians and actors have come out of this.

1:02:08 I didn't really remember, but I guess since 2008 they started doing Thursday night reports as a part of the campaign. And of course this is an NBC program so we are on board with anything that is pro the president and anti everybody else. Did you see this skit John that they did? No, no I heard about it though a lot of people were complaining. Well I'm complaining because it is, well we'll have a quick discussion it's about a minute thirty and the setup is it's a fake Fox and Friends that they're doing. Fox and Friends on the set, very funny, and then they are showing how the video was made of Mitt Romney talking about the 47% of people who he believes will not vote for him.

1:02:51 Good morning. Happy Thursday. Well, it's been a few days, but the press is still pummeling Mitt Romney over comments he made at a private GOP fundraiser last spring. Comments that were secretly videotaped without his permission. So rude. So wrong. Yeah, it's like the women's volleyball coach in my high school used to always say, you can't tape people without their permission, Brian. So what's going on here, I just have to interrupt this. And what's being insinuated is that Fox is completely pro-Republican without question and is just completely on board with the Romney campaign and apparently sex offenders.

1:03:33 That is what is being propagated and of course if you if you actually compare Fox with MSNBC I would say the opposite is true that MSNBC is the one that does not bring any any kind of balance in the reporting not trying to defend Fox, but this is the this is what goes for humor So you have this 47% that don't pay taxes And these people are never going to vote for me. And when I talk about these people who don't pay taxes, I don't mean senior citizens. All right? And I don't mean members of our armed services. And I don't mean Southern whites.

1:04:19 Okay, what I mean is, and real quick, no one is recording this, correct? No? Okay, it's very important that no one records this. Okay, good. Because I'm about to say who these people are, and I would prefer to not have that on tape. Sorry, sir, is that a camera on the table pointing right at me? Big laugh track. Okay, great. Now when I say these people, I mean black people. And there it is. And when I first heard or when I first saw this tape, that was not the first thing that popped into my mind. When he was talking about 47% of people who want entitlement. And this is, when this comes to mind and this is what you think of first, I believe you are then the racist.

1:05:14 This thinking and making this, it's not funny. And it is literally putting words in someone's mouth. And it is inciting racial hatred. And it's really wrong what is going on here. Well, MSNBC has been inciting racial hatred too. I mean, I don't know why people can't realize that it was white people who voted in Obama. Yeah. Uh-huh. It was like, come on. Obama's the president. That's the whole thing. These people... Let's see if we can turn this into a racial issue. Well, they are turning it into a racial issue. Yeah, well, as best they can. What they're trying to do is get the black vote back.

1:05:59 out. When the blacks have you know got nothing from Obama. Oh you mean they're not gonna vote again? Who cares. So what you're saying is they're pandering to the black voter is that what you're saying? Yes yeah they need to get the black voter out again. I don't know why they're worried about this the white voters are they're gonna be the ones voting for Obama. They had a one of these things on one of these networks I think it was CBS, they had a focus group in real time and they were going around the table with them and it was a professional focus group, a real one with real people and it wasn't like rigged. Unlike the ones we do you mean John? Is that what you're trying to say? Exactly. It was a real, it looked legit and everybody except one woman

1:06:40 were gonna, they were either leaning to or they're gonna vote for Obama. There's all white people by the way. There wasn't, I think there was one black guy or one black woman and she was gonna vote for Obama too. But she was actually kind of on the fence. But everybody else is gonna vote for Obama and it was like 10 to 15 people in the room and all except one person was going to vote for Obama, I'm thinking this guy's gonna be second to Ronald Reagan's second term election in terms of a nationwide sweep. It's going to be ridiculous unless something weird happens near the end which you tend to want to predict.

1:07:16 I haven't, I'm not so sure. I mean, you know, you were the one that said unless Obama gets caught with a teenage boy, you know, I mean, you were the one that came up with that possibility. I was listening on the plane on the way back from Chicago. I was listening to The Denman, The Denman Show. Yeah, the dead man the dead man. You know he also is a producer and supports our program and He had this bit and this I wasn't actually planning on playing any of this I'm just I'm literally grabbing his podcast and going to where I think the the clip is he had this clip of Peter Schiff You know Peter Schiff. Oh yeah, everybody knows Peter Schiff. Yeah, and

1:07:55 Really? Everybody knows Peter Schiff. I think all our listeners do. Anyway, go on. And he went to the Democratic Convention and he asked people about corporations and profit. And it's about, I don't know, maybe 40... Oh, it is the Peter Schiff thing. Yeah. Did you hear this? Well, you can summarize it better than playing it. I think it makes... I don't think it works as a clip. Okay. So, all right. So, he essentially goes around and he says, should we force corporations to not make profit? And everyone's like, well, I don't know about that. Well, how about we cap their profits? Yeah, that's a great idea.

1:08:31 Every single person he put in the report because of course that you know that's skewed We have no idea what he didn't put in his little my time. They're all like yeah, I think that's a good idea I think you know corporations should have limits on how much profit they could make I was like wow Yeah, it was person after person after person went on forever. Let me just listen just a little bit We're all out looking for work actually women. This is the Democratic Convention. They don't want to listen for a little just fair the corporations make all these profits and I don't think it's fair that they make that many profits. That's right, we gotta ban profits! We need corporate profits. Maybe we should just have corporate losses. Well, I don't want to go that far. You actually want to force corporations to lose money? Yeah, I think so. The issue is corporations have profits, and I want to ban those profits so that the workers can have higher wages and that the consumers can get lower prices.

1:09:21 That is obviously something I would be in favor of. You know, I have a real problem with a lot of these sorts of things because they pander to an audience, specifically Republicans. I don't believe for a minute that this is the only... A guy with a microphone who's really good can go out there and make anyone say anything. You get no argument from me. Yeah, so I question this, but I mean, I'm sure I think there's a lot of that kind of thinking which he's trying to reveal. I don't know if it's dominant thinking, but people are a little sick of what's going on on that side of the fence. And the other side, the Republican side, they don't have a message of anything positive that I know of. I mean, their messaging is terrible. And it's still amazing that people think that you can only vote for A or B.

1:10:15 A or B? Because there was something on CNN this morning and they're not called swing voters, they're called convincibles. I haven't heard that one. Convincibles. And I said, well, Mickey, are you convincible? And Mickey knows very well that it's not just A or B, that there's many people you can vote for on the ballot. He says, you mean Obama or Romney? I said, no. It's a trick question. She wants Ron Paul still. She's not over that yet. Meanwhile, here's the real stuff that you need to be worried about in America. Back in the US, a double amputee in a wheelchair was shot to death by police at a group home in Houston after threatening officers with a pen. Shut up, slave! A double amputee in a wheelchair with a pen was shot to death by the police.

1:11:08 Wow Well, I'll take it then, thank you. He's actually a second half to it. Caretakers called police and they say the man who had been diagnosed with schizophrenia became aggressive. When they arrived, he threatened the police with what appeared to be a metal object that turned out to be a pen. The officer has been placed on administrative leave. Yeah, good idea. Yeah, full pay by the way. A double amputee, so he has no legs, he's in a wheelchair, and he's got a pen. I'm gonna stick you!

1:11:49 Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Boom! Yeah! I don't think so. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Put down the pen! Put down the pen, sir. That's where we're at, buddy. That is where we're at. No, that's not all. I mean, it's much worse, of course. By the way, we'll get just back on the crappy movie just for a minute. I do want to play this clip because at that, this is almost like an Ask Adam. But play the film actress versus YouTube clip. Now, an actress who appeared in the film trailer that first sparked the violence has lost her legal challenge to have the 14-minute clip taken down from YouTube.

1:12:29 An LA court judge rejected the request from Cindy Lee Garcia because she wasn't able to produce any agreement she had with the filmmakers. I want it off for my sake. I'm a moral woman. I want it off of there. It's degrading, demoralizing and it affected our country. Our ambassador over there, our Navy SEALs were killed behind us. It was a horrible thing that happened. I think it needs to come up. Okay, I saw this, I saw this. I'm very curious about your question. The judge says the woman was unable to produce any agreement. Wouldn't it go the other way? This is like...

1:11:49 Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Boom! Yeah! I don't think so. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Put down the pen! Put down the pen, sir. That's where we're at, buddy. That is where we're at. No, that's not all. I mean, it's much worse, of course. By the way, we'll get just back on the crappy movie just for a minute. I do want to play this clip because at that, this is almost like an Ask Adam. But play the film actress versus YouTube clip. Now, an actress who appeared in the film trailer that first sparked the violence has lost her legal challenge to have the 14-minute clip taken down from YouTube.

1:12:29 An LA court judge rejected the request from Cindy Lee Garcia because she wasn't able to produce any agreement she had with the filmmakers. I want it off for my sake. I'm a moral woman. I want it off of there. It's degrading, demoralizing and it affected our country. Our ambassador over there, our Navy SEALs were killed behind us. It was a horrible thing that happened. I think it needs to come up. Okay, I saw this, I saw this. I'm very curious about your question. The judge says the woman was unable to produce any agreement. Wouldn't it go the other way? This is like...

1:13:13 Say so I take a picture of you I take a movie you Essentially on the street walking along and then I overdub you saying you know I think you know some bullcrap So it looks like you're talking and you're not and I put this on YouTube and you say hey wait a minute You have to take this down. I didn't agree to this and then the judge says well Let me see the agreement that you didn't agree Let me see the agreement. Do you have an agreement with the producer of this film? No, I don't. The guy shot me in the middle of walking down the street. Well, that's too bad. Is that what he's saying? Is that what we're talking about here? No, that's not what we're talking about. She, she, uh, all she wants, look, she has a movie coming out, her first real role on IMDb called Broken Roads. It's in post-production and she wants to be in the public eye.

1:13:58 Well, that's fine, but I'm saying in this particular case, that's great. I'm glad she's getting publicity for this. But the decision that she has to produce a document, an agreement to do a takedown, when did that happen? So in other words, what this is saying, there's still precedent here, even though, yeah, she's doing it for publicity, but there's a precedent now. It sounds to me as if, if you can't produce an agreement Even if you were shot, you know, anonymously, I can't take it. I'm sorry. I would have to see that this is just some bullcrap report with some two-bit actors. It could be bullcrap because it's on Russia Today. Show me where the judgment is. Show me. Let me read. I'm going to follow up on this story. Let me read the judgment. By the way, Sally Kirkland's in this movie she's doing. She's hit the big time now.

1:14:47 Who? Sally Kirkland is in the movie with Cindy... Who the hell said Sally Kirkland? Sally Kirkland? Oh, she had tons of movies when she was young. Sally Struthers? No, Sally Struthers is from All in the Family. No, Sally Kirkland! Come on, you know Sally Kirkland! I don't even know... Oh, okay, hold on. I'll tell you. Sally Kirkland actually used to be extremely hot. Here, she was in Oliver Stone's JFK. She is kind of Like she's always sauced up. Oh, I see her. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this woman. Don't hey, these people, this woman, what are you talking about? This woman, I recognize her. So you know what? I want to find this ruling because I hear what you're saying here. Judge denies Cindy Lee Garcia's request. Let's find the actual. Oh, this she's putting these PR releases on her IMDb page now. Superior Court Judge Lewis.

1:15:49 rejected Garcia's request because he wasn't able to... ...Coplin has taken on a lot of different looks in her ears. ...served her, served with a copy of... You know, this is just wording. You know, I need to see the actual judgment. This is, this is... I don't see judgment. This is bogative. You have any copy of this? You go look for that. In fact, you go look for that and I'll play you something outrageous. So, um, this is really funny. You know, we're at war with Russia. Your media is not, RT is not even really saying it. But we're at war with Russia and Obama hates Putin, Putin hates Obama, and Hillary hates Putin. And Putin really hates Hillary.

1:16:40 And so you know that Georgia is a very, very, not the city in Atlanta, but Georgia is a very strategically important place. Lucifer was over there. We have naval resources. We've sent over some ships because of course we've got the pipelines coming from Boku, coming all the way. through Georgia going into the Caspian Sea. Very, very strategically important. They still aren't a member of NATO, but this has been going on since the Bushes were in power. The airport is George Bush International Airport. The Clintons work for Bush. So the whole thing is all about gas and oil. Done. Hillary was there.

1:17:20 She leaves and now Putin's like, oh yeah, okay. I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna cause a ruckus and he's doing it with the students. And so they had their own techno experts on the ground and this is, we have a response to this, but here's Russia screwing with America. Protests in Georgia against brutality in prisons have strengthened. In central Tbilisi, students, some carrying brooms as a symbol of torture, call for the arrest of government ministers responsible. President Mikhail Sasko-Shvili has already fired two ministers and reshuffled prison staff. The moves have not quelled the growing disquiet. In western Georgia, in Zugdidi, the protests were political ahead of the country's October 1st parliamentary elections.

1:18:03 Opposition leader Bidzina Ivenzvili told his supporters voters face a stark choice between good and evil in the wake of the prison scandal which is threatening to unseat the pro-western government. By the way, they've got videos and you literally see these prison guards and I think it's the same guy who did the Romney video, kind of low, you know, a little bit from behind and they see him kicking and it's good, it's really... Yeah, I saw it. It's good video, right? It's not like some shaky cam, someone's holding an actual... No, no, it's funny because you can get that kind of video in a prison but you can't do that in the street. And they're actually kicking the guy on the ground. A victory for Ivanchvili's Georgian Dream Party would install him as the country's new Prime Minister. The billionaire businessman owns a television channel which aired a video showing the prison abuses. Guards allegedly beat and humiliated inmates in Tbilisi's Gladani prison.

1:18:53 the head of the prison and his two deputies were arrested. The government says it was staged, recorded by guards, bribed by politically motivated persons. Before the scandal broke and protesters took to the streets, the pollsters had the government with a 20 percentage points lead over the opposition. Okay, so the opposition, the guy owns a television station, so it's perfect. This has Putin written all over it. Yeah, it does. So what does Hillary do? She's like, well, I'm gonna get you. Well, I oughta... So Hillary of course, her... You're making her out to be curly. Of the three stooges. So Hillary's like, I'm gonna get you Vladimir, I'm gonna get you. I know what I'll do. I'll call up my bitch over there at Amnesty International. Amnesty International, you know the woman who runs the place, right? She used to work for Hillary at the State Department. Hold on a second, what is her name? Suzanne Nossel.

1:19:52 Schwozl Nossel and she was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for State for International Organization Affairs in 2009 and at the beginning of this year she went to Amnesty International. So when I first saw this headline I didn't understand what was going on until I saw that it is not just the Lenin Ono Peace Prize and grant No, so that would be John Lennon Yoko Ono. It is the Amnesty International John Lennon Yoko Ono Peace Prize and Grant and guess who it went to this year by coincidence? Yoko Ono? No, no. Yoko Ono gives it away. John Lennon's dead. Yoko Ono gives it away. Hillary? No, no, no. No! Pussy Riot!

1:20:37 This case is about three young women who are in jail. Now this is the this is snozzle from Amnesty. This case, this is about three young women who are in jail. The crime of singing a song. Just the crime of singing a song. No one and no one mentions and by the way they didn't tell Yoko that they did this in a church and that it would cause the ruckus. It's just they was just singing a song. They were just singing a song and they got thrown in jail. Is this the woman? No, no. From Amnesty talking? Yeah, this is Snozzle and in a minute they're gonna have Yoko on but this is Snozzle first she because they're it's their prize but they bring in Yoko Ono to get some press. This case is about three young women who are in jail for the crime of singing a song for challenging

1:21:27 their government for provoking but for doing so peacefully. Peacefully? It wasn't peaceful, it was very disruptive. It's a terrible thing that all three girls have been jailed for not doing anything wrong. This is Yoko Ono. It's a terrible thing that these girls have been jailed for doing nothing wrong. And they were just standing for freedom of speech. Just freedom of speech? And it's really very amazing that that was allowed. It's amazing! Hey, Yoko, why don't you watch a news program for once? So you can see what really happened, you dork. And I really think that it's so important to... And by the way, you broke up the Beatles. ...work so that they can come out as soon as possible. I would like you to accept this on behalf of Pussy Riot, that those

1:22:18 Yes, the first Russian recipient of this grant. So actually here's the one of the girls that Canadian Russian guy he's there to pick it up with his four-year-old daughter. So, you know, the whole thing is like, all of a sudden the guy's now able to do this. Yeah, this is, you're right, this is Hillary getting back at the award for him pulling out of the stunts. Listen to him talk for a second, then I got something to say about this award. Very wonderful ceremony done by Yoko Ono and obviously it's an amazing... It's amazing!

1:22:53 honor to receive this award from Yoko and Yoko has been championing various political causes in the world for well since the 70s and her picking up the case of our three imprisoned girls for pushy rights obviously. It's amazing. It's amazing. She broke up the Beatles you douchebag. She's not amazing. Thank you! And then they whore out the kid. Anyway, so let me just tell you who else was a recipient this year. Bono? Nope. Rachel Corey and... Who the hell's Rachel Corey? 23 year old American peace activist from Olympia, Washington who was crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer in 2003. She was killed? Yes. So that's a posthumous award. But Jean... Oh I remember, yeah. She's the girl that he bulldozed. But who do I see here? Bono? No! Clooney?

1:23:56 You don't get to guess anymore! No, stop! Author and activist John Perkins! Oh really? The economic hit guy. So he goes to this Bogative Award from the woman who broke up the Beatles and Amnesty International, the epitome of economic hitmen, and he's picking up an award. He's a sellout, dude. He is a sellout. We had it. Myself and Horowitz interviewed him. Oh really? Where's that interview? It was on Horowitz's show. It was not DHM plug, but on whatever. I bet that's funny.

1:24:32 We talked about it on the show. What did you say? That you're a sellout? Did you say, hey, you're a sellout? It was pretty obvious. So he's a sellout though? Well, it seems as if I think somebody took him aside and put a gun to his head or something. And now it's like, now, but meanwhile, he has to, you know. stay in business. Oh yeah, he has to eat. The guy's gotta eat. Gotta eat! Um, so they have... But he definitely does not... He actually backs off on the whole theory that he wrote in the book. He's not... What, are you saying it's not even true? Is that what... He didn't go that far, but it was... Yeah, you know, things are different nowadays. They don't... That kind of thing... It's kind of unusual nowadays. Leave me alone. Really?

1:25:23 Well all right well I understand these guys got to eat. He doesn't have a podcast you know he's not on the Makes a lot harder, you know we get a lot you know with the with the PayPal killing our subscribers is gonna be able to eat either We're on our way to selling out. Pretty soon you'll be like, hey Yoko, yeah, oh man. Good to be here to take this award. I loved you when you were with the Plastic Ono Band, that Give Peace a Chance. All we are saying is give peace a chance. People who listen to our show should appreciate the fact that this is not going to go on forever. I'm singing in the background.

1:26:09 And anytime anywhere along the lines it could be done. Everybody's talking about... That's exactly right. It's not going to last forever. That is obvious. And then you're going to be... The problem is everyone just gets sucked back into the vortex of lies and deceit. Well, the question is where will we go? I mean, I think I've burned too many bridges. I have no idea where I could actually go. I mean, you're pretty smart. You know, the only thing you have to worry about is father time. It's a problem. But he's creeping up on me too. So the question is, what can we do? If we were to stop, if we were to give up. You can start a dot-com company. Oh please. I mean, what? No one's going to believe it. You had good ideas. That idea you had, the app show.

1:27:00 Genius. It's like I'm doing books now. Yeah, I know, it didn't work out, but the idea was genius. I don't know quite what happened. Well, because no one gives a crap about apps, turns out. Yeah, I know that's the irony. We all thought apps was a big deal. And books? No one gives a crap about books either. It's amazing how that works. No one cares. You gotta figure out what people give a crap about. But stuff that I can't... You know, Kardashians, it's hard. What am I gonna do? Yeah, did you look at the Bravo lineup? They got two goofball shows about techies. Really? Yeah, they got the Silicon Valley show that has Sarah Austin. Yeah. And then they have this other show called Cheeseburger or something. It's about a company up in Seattle called Cheese. That's a huge company, man.

1:27:51 Well, they had their inside cheeseburger and they have all these goofballs that are making you know They're throwing things at each other and really in the office like they do yeah It's like a reality show junk junk Yeah, yeah, well I have a two clips. I'd like to put back-to-back before we go into our donation segment already what you got The first one is the... I think this is interesting. I just found this to be fascinating. First of all, it's the newest Assange Gambit. You know about this? I do not. Play. Ecuador says it's considering asking Britain to authorize transferring Julian Assange to its embassy in Sweden so he can respond to sex crimes charges there. Ecuador also says the whistleblower could be questioned at its embassy in London where Assange has been holed up since June. The UK is yet to respond. Ecuador granted the Wikileaks editor asylum last month. I don't know, wait a minute. I thought Sweden dropped the charges and they found no DNA on the ripped condom. Apparently not.

1:28:59 I still want to talk to the guy. Hey man, we just want to talk. I just want to talk. So the Ecuadorians came up with this idea. Look, you Brits, since you're in bed with Americans trying to screw this guy, how about moving him to our embassy in Sweden and then they can talk to you? That's a very good idea. I like the idea. This is on RT of course because no American news source is going to touch this story. Because we are way too busy? Now, this is the clip that got me kind of, this is the connection clip. Which is, oh, this is funny, apparently every douchebag in the world is familiar with some of our practices and it reveals itself in the revealing clip from Pakistan, top clip. Thursday saw the deadliest clashes between police and angry activists. The law enforcement agencies were unable to handle the mobs.

1:29:56 They demanded that the people involved in production of the anti-Islam film should be charged or handed over to Pakistan. demand from America that hand over the culprits because they have committed crime against the world of Islam. And it is American tradition that if any action or crime takes place against America, then no matter which country is involved, that person would be subject to American law. Meanwhile, the American Embassy in Islamabad, in a bid to calm down public rage over the anti-Islam film produced in the US, is spending $70,000 to air an ad on seven Pakistani television channels to disassociate the US government from the film.

1:30:47 I have a number of things to say but I want to hear you first. Well first of all I like the idea that in some douchebag in the middle of nowhere Pakistan comes out and says, hey the Americans if somebody commits a crime against them aka Julian Assange They go after him and bring him to America for trial. Even though he's not an American, he didn't do it on American soil. He's got nothing to do with America, but this is the American practice. Thus, we want America to send us these guys who made that movie because they committed a crime against Pakistan, blasphemy laws. This is very interesting. So I like this and I would like to up the ante. I'd like to send Bill Maher to Pakistan. I think we can easily send Ben Affleck and George Clooney for the Argos movie which is coming out in October. In fact, I'd like to send him Brangelina. You're onto something. Maybe they're right. Maybe we should adopt this policy. It's a great policy. Just say, hey, you know what, just every douchebag just here. And you know what, we'll throw in Kim K. Just for good measure.

1:31:55 with a burka. Alright, that's point one. Point two? That was the only point I made. Well here's the only... knowing something... The point two is that this was a direct hit on the Assange, the attempt of the Americans to... What did we expect to accomplish by bringing Assange into the US and drawing attention to this problem? Let me ask you a different question. They should just drone him. Let me ask you a different question. As are the both principals and founders of the Curry-DeVry Consulting Group, known for all things media, the mavericks of media as we're sometimes known on the street. I find seven markets in Pakistan for only $70,000 to be an incredibly cheap media buy. I don't even think you can get Austin for $70,000. Yes, $10,000 a spot.

1:32:47 I don't believe for a second that they're... No, in Afghanistan. India, Pakistan. Come on, Pakistan's huge, huge. The rates of... People watch television. The rates have got to be way higher than 70 grand for seven markets. What, just one airing, one pop? No way, John. No way. Maybe it was at two in the morning. Maybe it was in surplus time. Oh, they did it in infomercial time. Yeah. Well, we're usually closed at 2 a.m., but you know, for you... But 10 grand you can give you how much time you want. Hey wait, wait, wait. Can't you do it with the Pakistani accent? This is not good. I like my... Well nobody we have the Ginsu nice right now but we have a very very good offer for you. 70 grand we put you Hillary and Clippity Clop and we put your mud right there on the television. Okay that's good no more drone. Thank you very much. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah that'd be fab.

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1:37:10 But I'm here just getting by I'll take a classic de-douching karma combo. I went to Perth and I thought it was quite beautiful I've also been to Victoria. He's not a fan. That's where the VB's are fun You've been de-douched You've got karma. And that was it. Wow So you had to play the outro. Oh, that was literally... we had one, man. 69! 69, dude! I guess that we'll have to retire the jingle pretty soon. I think it's gonna be over next show. I think it's gonna be over soon. John Grumling, Aspen, Colorado, 5555. Let's listen to show 445 and maybe due to the wartime conditions in the hotel, you guys missed something important. A blue-green violent story. The Afghan police officer who killed the army soldiers hasn't worn his uniform since 2009 when he did the deed.

1:38:01 Sounds like this has been going on all the time, but it's just now being pointed out to the Pentagon controlled media. Huh? Huh? So he's saying that this is the October surprise will be a get the hell out of Pakistan out of Afghanistan. I've won it's time. Well, possibly says I think we should say it properly. I want to start by the way. He points out something interesting in this note, which I have to say I have not fully considered even though I've glossed it over. John, I'm with you on the psycho theory and the exception of 1849. However, one thing that all these guys overlook is that gold mining, especially pre-Civil War, required a lot more manpower than the Bernanke adding a few zeros on the Weiss terminal. It wasn't just the gold coming out of the ground, it was the transportation, the building of mining towns, suppliers, etc.

1:38:52 kept the recession and depression from happening right up until the war. I think they realize this and just use it as an excuse. The real reason comes straight from Keynes' general theory. Whilst workers will usually resist a reduction of money wages, it is not their practice to withdraw their labor. And I'm totally with you on that, John. Yeah, you know, because I listened to the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show where you had the epiphany about 1849. A good show, by the way. The whole show was pretty decent. And you were like, okay, now I finally figured out why that works. But yeah, you have to take all these other things into account. I think he's making a good point there. And so now what are you going to do? Yeah. Well, I said that the epiphany was that Bernanke just shoving money into the economy, going straight up to the bankers. Well, we know that's not accomplishing this 30 trillion that we need to pump into the system. No, it's not accomplishing anything. So we're doomed.

1:39:48 Yes. Good news everyone. Doomed. Sir Rod Adams in Forest, Virginia 5555 while listening to show 445 in the morning I heard an inspiration jingle combination. When I finished my morning walk I followed through. I will now go to work designing nuclear reactors with a big smile. I'd like to pass along the wonderful idea. Maybe it will be become a new meme. Play MILF followed by In the Morning to inspire other listeners to the best podcast in the universe, Rod Adams. This is Atomic Rod, who I hope to see when Miss Mickey has her show. Here it is. Here he's got it. He's got 55.55 as the donation to celebrate the upcoming 5th. That's what we have to push.

1:40:28 5-5-5-5, because nobody's buying in these other crazy ideas. Yeah, 5-5-5-5, that's gonna be it. I'm gonna put that in the next newsletter. I'm gonna hand out the MILF in the morning. Yeah, right, it's a great combination and I'm gonna add a Karma at the end there for all of our nuclear friends. Miss Mickey's extremely excited about meeting Atomic Rod. No, she is she has bring your Geiger counter. She She met up with one of our producers in Colorado and he was talking about thorium and all this other stuff And she's like, holy crap, you know when she was a kid her mom, you know forced her out into Demond You know, she's our whole family's like communists and Forced her to wear like a band the bomb thing and no I hate nukes and she was brought up anti-nuke, you know, obviously this is Europe, right and

1:41:25 In the fact I did a right on you and you went yeah, but you should have gone. No, that's not right Yeah, right, right fact fact and so she's been brought up very being very afraid of the nuclear Armageddon and of course the Netherlands, you know the We have nukes there and the Americans control them and for her to have this like oh hold on a second this might actually be the answer to all problems by the way I'm giving up on the Kia Soul. I haven't late. I I blew miss Mickey away I said turns out four out of five doctors recommend that the Volt the Chevy Volt they're gonna take $10,000 off the price

1:42:11 Did you see this? Oh, I'll get one. You know what? There was a good breakdown of the Chevy Volt. I've already tested the Chevy Volt. It's a really nice little car and I think it should have been re-branded as a Cadillac because it's very, it's really a nice Chevy. But here's what's interesting. Apparently, they're just gonna probably dump inventory with this $10,000 deal. Yeah, they want to get rid of it. Yeah, because they cost $85,000 to manufacture. That's why I want to get one! A stupid battery car. You're getting a deal. Yeah! You can lease one for $240 a month! Right, and it gives you across the... you also get the special sticker to go across the bridge.

1:42:51 And be a carpooling. Well that's quite a commute for me to go across the bridge. Well that's true, that's not good for you but for me. But I'm seriously thinking. I had one and I thought it was nice. If you look around the best one you want to get, if you can get one, get a black one. They look really good in black. The rest of the colors, red's okay but the first pair. Oh please, red car you might as well just say kick me. I drive a red car. But I mean, how do I get over the battery part of it? I mean, it's real. I'm really... I'm a sellout. I'm like John Perkins getting an Ono Award with this. Is that, is it wrong of me to want to go and get in on this deal while the action's hot? No, that's a smart move it seems to me. Well it seems like a big sellout. I'm supposed to have a big... Why? Because I'm a big Nitro burning dude. I'm a Dem in Texas. People might shoot at me. No one's gonna shoot at you. Texas, especially Austin, is filled with those kinds of guys.

1:43:49 I need water. Go ahead if you need some water. Why don't you read the next couple and I'll get some water. Okay. Oh boy, I get to drive. Joe Collins. Joe Collins, who will be knighted today, although I do not see, I guess he just sent in an accounting of his knighthoodage. from Woodbridge, Virginia. Okay, no wonder he's not saying anything. He's from, hello, Virginia. But double nickels on the dime and we thank you very much for your support of the program and your knighthood is coming up. Andrew Gardner from the No Agenda Racing Team. Sir Andrew Gardner. In the morning two weeks ago I raced in New Jersey and forgot to get my racing car in. I didn't make it through the first lap of my first race without wrecking. We've seen the video, it was awesome.

1:44:34 Last races of the season are this weekend at Virginia International Raceway Can I get some no agenda racing karma for me and to do the head for the competition, please first competition? And now the karma for no agenda racing calm We do have an update from Andrew he had two races and he came in poorly in one and and won the second race Oh Unfortunately the second race was only two guys and his competition crashed. That's okay, he's in there just hanging in there. Hey, hey, we don't care. It doesn't matter man. I mean, you know, you can say that when Obama wins, he's second, you know, one above the worst. Yeah, there you go. Podcast for Peace in Alamo, California 5150. Why? Because it's time again for a Karma Shot. You've got Karma.

1:45:28 Anonymous in Normal, Illinois at 5130 in the morning John and Ann I just wanted to wish you both a happy fifth anniversary and ask for some all-purpose karma. Hey one question for you I have. You've got karma. Do I need a special kind of plug for the volt? It comes with it. No but I can just plug it into anything? Yeah, well here's the deal. There's two things you can do. One, you can plug it into a normal outlet. I need a 240 thing? A 240 thing? Yeah, just anything. But to recharge the battery completely, actually you have to plug it in at midnight and it gets recharged by about 9 in the morning. It takes 9-10 hours. You can also have installed into your house or wherever you are a special 220. A treadmill?

1:46:17 outlet and you plug into that baby and it charges the car in a couple hours, two, three hours. Put Mickey on the treadmill. That would work. Hey, but it has an engine, right? It has a gas engine. Right, like 1.4 liter engine. Yeah, it's a small engine. If you go 40, 50 miles and the battery craps out, the engine turns on, you really don't notice it. So this is the final question I have. Can you control when the engine comes on? No. Oh, so you can't say just don't come on or does it come on at a certain speed or does it come on? No, it comes on when the battery's dead. I don't think you're right on that. I drove one. Oh, okay, then you're right. I only got the engine to come on once. And that was because you didn't have you didn't charge it you just kept going?

1:47:03 Yeah, I kept going and going. I went about 40 something, 42 miles. So what you're saying is you do... All of a sudden the car, the engine starts up and I'm driving around. You don't notice the difference. But does that then charge the battery or is that not enough to charge the battery? That's just kind of taking over. I think it's supposedly, the battery's always being charged and I think the engine does a little bit. Like when you hit the brakes it charges the battery. Right, right, right, right. It's got all these crazy things. That's why the car costs too much. Do you think I can get laid driving this thing? No, no way. No. Anti-lade mobile? I just don't see it. It's not a chick magnet. Even with a black one? You sure? How's the- How's the GPS? You put a decal on the side that says chick magnet. How's the GPS? Does the GPS perform?

1:47:48 I didn't use it much. Alright, so I think I can take the truck and they'll probably give me a five grand for the... maybe not, maybe three grand. Sure they will. Maybe three grand for the truck. If you get the thing leased for a couple hundred bucks like you said, I can do that deal. I think it's $240. I was looking at it. $240 a month. Not a bad deal. It's a nice car. I mean, I don't want any debt, but... There is one little problem with the car. For anyone who's got a Volt, they'll know this. Get on the freeway. Get it about 60 miles an hour and open the right rear window. It goes down to 40? No. It pretty much busts everybody's eardrums in the car. You have to do it to appreciate what I... It's unbelievable. Is this a test you always perform with every new automobile? I don't know. I think I...

1:48:41 Think I read about it or something before I was driving the car around when I tried it was like holy everyone in the car is moaning at me It makes a thumping sound is very strange. It's like it's aerodynamic the cars really So if you interrupt the aerodynamic thing by opening the window right it creates this weird. It's just strange It's not it's not a deal killer for a sign here's what I'll do I think I think I'll do the following because I like this because the commitment the I'll get the, you know, I'll have like maybe an extra 800 bucks after that. Because then you have to do a down payment. I'm sure there's a $2,000 down payment at least. Yeah. And then I'll get some really wide tires. And some rims that spin.

1:49:44 Yeah, we don't expect to see you doing that. Okay! I'm getting a black one with big fat tires and rims that spin. Right after the show I'm gonna go pick me up a Volt. I think it's great because you're right, the value is... this is why I like it. They probably did... they are spending $80,000 to make them. They got it and it was just a blowjob for the president. And so they can't get rid of them because you can't get laid in them, which is what a car is for. So this is a great deal because I'm getting laid no matter what. And I'm going to go get one of these and it's a great deal. It's a great deal. It is. I think it is a great deal. Sir Lawrence McBride in Moortown, Merseyside, 5130. Hey, Shittison, ask Adam if he's read Market Forces by Richard K. Morgan yet. Apparently not. Give him some job karma in the morning.

1:50:36 You've got karma. Never really cared much about the so-called world news until I heard the best podcast in the universe now I'm a sad, but wiser man things could be better for me, but before receiving you must first give so here's my donation to you I would like a de-douching karma squirrel combo for a job or new ways to generate income absolutely You've been de-douche You've got karma

1:51:23 By the way, I'd like to just a little interlude interment so From the chat room regarding my decision to purchase a vault Quote I'm getting laid no matter what famous last words vault equals slave car and Adam you're out of your effing mind start smoking weed again and I don't know John, that's three against your one so far. Yeah, but those are three people in the chat room. Hey! Easy on the chats. Alright, and finally we got Rebecca Nelson here in...

1:52:02 refrew someplace or other ref reddened frusher Renfrewshire UK it must be UK let's see we got anything I don't see a note from her so what's that to me without to comment $50 want to thank her and everybody else who donated is the shortlist today hopefully we'll pick it up a little bit with our anniversary coming up with the 5555 donation which will be the new anniversary donation. We want to thank everyone who did or the few people who did the 5130. Two people today. Really? So that obviously was not working. Maybe I should hold off on any purchase of anything. Well, let's see what happens on Thursday.

1:52:48 Wow. If we get a few people with 55-55, we'll assume that means that you should be getting a new car instead of driving around those old things that are... the truck. Will I fit in the car? Yeah, they're very roomy. It's much more... actually, the other competitor I drove, I'm gonna be test driving a Focus. electric pretty soon. I like this Ford Focus car. I like it a lot. How about this? What I'll do is I'll get the fat tires, the rims that spin, and I'll just have a cord hanging out the back dragging along. How about getting some of those brass balls that they put on the back? Wouldn't it be fun to just have a cord, just an extension cord just bungling? Just bouncing around?

1:53:28 People are like, hey, oh, hey dude, dude, your extension cord's hanging out, man, from your battery car. Oh, man, dude, thank you so much. Oh, man, it's time to recharge, man. Hey, listen, people, we need your support, right? It's a fact that we need some support here. This is now third in a row, yeah, third down show in a row. We really need some support, thank you, please. Now we have our anniversary coming up and nobody gives a crap. It's like up. You know when people are tired They're tired of us. I'm gonna I'm gonna start looking to sell out we could put ads on the show Oh, why do what what happened to your voice things? We should have been doing one today I've given up John

1:54:17 I've given up how many of you done man. How many how many have we done it? You know here's the here's the thing It was a stack I think was saying that it looks like Apple is going to come up with a way to So you can charge for podcast yeah, yeah, I know I'm like oh, we're saved now We'll get $100 a week it's gonna be great now seriously now if you heard If you were listening to the donation segment and you heard that lovely donation come in from Wendy Berkelar from Ottawa. She said, hey, I gave up my Netflix for you guys. That is the value for value model.

1:55:00 is getting more value from listening to the No Agenda show because we have no ads, because we are not beholden to anybody, because we are not slaves to the system, because we have given up a life of prosperity to just get by and make it happen. Now, John gets by a little more because he's got these columns, but he's been working on that for 40 years where people know he's a dick. But I can't even blow anything, I can't fall back on anything like that. You've made a career out of this, and I'm very jealous of that. Too late now. Yeah, there's no way you can't get in on that scam anymore. You've got it. You've nailed it. You've completely, you've gotten your way in. But I don't think that that alone is going to make it work for you either. So I have nothing. No, I don't. I mean, I got a truck. And you put more work into this show than anything you've ever done before. You like digging through this crap. I mean, that thing you did earlier.

1:55:55 above which one of the things that... Well, I didn't really do all the work there, but you know... You do a lot of work. Yeah, I do. And I do it from the worst, in the worst possible circumstances. And you do it, and what's funny is that you, you know, both of us do a lot of, you know, we will dig up stuff that people are not going to get. People are, most people will not get any of this information. Or the analysis. I mean the analysis is great, but even just bare information sometimes it's like I never heard this before I mean we're picking stuff up because we're looking at listening to a lot of we're doing a lot of work that the people The who listen to our show don't have time to do they actually work for a living They don't have time to listen to the news from Pakistan

1:56:35 She's like this not interest. I mean they don't have time for who has time for this I had we're filtering mechanisms the two of us I Had there's some suggestions. I can do porn with Bobby Eden now there you go. I can do some webcam porn There's an idea this probably makes less money than this show no I have on quite good authority She makes more money than I do with a webcam stuff. It's just we're doing webcam girl stuff. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, I A lot of these women, there's so many webcam girls, I would have to assume that there's money to be made. You have to understand, she has movies, she's got product. She's not making movies anymore, but you can Google Bobby Eden and you'll see some three-input movies that'll blow you away. So the fantasy is there. So it's not like just some, you know, some pom-pom, tickle, wow,

1:57:27 webcam girl you know this is Bobby Eden she's a celebrity she's a star a little more than a plain webcam girl so she sent me the fleshlight her her fleshlight and I just put it on the mantle you know I just like we were on our way to Chicago and and we come back she's like okay You have to put this thing somewhere else. It's creeping me out. It's totally creepy. You know, I don't want to criticize anybody who uses that device as a mechanism to make money by selling it. But I do criticize someone who actually uses it.

1:58:04 Well, yeah, it's pretty bad. It's a bad idea. It's a very good selling them like hotcakes. You know what? There is. I don't want to say which podcast it is. Yeah, I know which one it is. Of course, it relies on selling those things to make the kind of money that we I think listen to make more. These things are not cheap. That's the way to go. You know what's wrong about the fleshlight is the edges they scratch. How would you know this? Devorac.org slash N-A. Look, help us out will ya? You can see I'm already doing product testing. I think we need some help. It's your birthday, birthday! We need help from No One Champion! Well it's one big birthday today and that was celebrated yesterday and we congratulate the one and only J.C. Buzzkill Jr. for um...

1:58:59 How old is he now, John? He's already lying about his age. Really, I bet he is. But we know he lost his humor, so he's got to be at least 22. I think he's... Is he older than that? He's 24? 25? He's getting there. Wow. Wow. All right, well congratulations, Buzzkill Jr. Thank you for all that you do for the best podcast in the universe, which he doesn't do for free either, by the way. That comes right off the top. Just want to mention that. And two nights, of course, we have our instant night. It's great. And we have one of our layaway nights, Joe Collins, who, if you just thank you very much, God, that was... So Patrick Wilson and Joe Collins, step on forward. The two of you, thank you so much for your contributions, actually keeping us afloat today.

1:59:50 with your generous donations to the best podcast in the universe. So I hereby pronounce the Knights of the Noah-Genda Roundtable. Sir Patrick and Sir Joe, come on over! We got your hookers and blowers, your rent boys and chardonnay, your wenches and beer, your hot pants and booze, and your sexy scooters if you so wish. Take your well-deserved spot here at the Roundtable of the Knights of the Noah-Gendas. And again, thank you so, so, so very much from both our families for supporting us. Yes, thank you. And we won't have these long whining sessions if people would step up a little bit here. So there was an interesting bill that came before the House that I caught just the other day. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass H.R. 5987 as amended.

2:00:37 The clerk will report the title of the bill. H.R. 5987, a bill to establish the Manhattan Project National Historical Park in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, Los Alamos, New Mexico, and Hanford, Washington, and for other purposes. So here's a bill to establish the Manhattan Project Park. Now the Manhattan Project... In three places. Yeah. The Manhattan Project was essentially the project that created the nuclear bomb. Am I correct? Yeah, the bombs that we dropped on Japan that were created by this project. So Denis Kucinich rose in opposition and he said, I'm going to have none of this. The technology which created the bomb cannot be separated from the horror which the bomb created. The celebration of the technology of the bomb

2:01:35 bespeaks a moral blindness to its effects, which include not only the devastation of the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the ten trillion dollar Cold War between the US and Russia, and the tens of thousands of nuclear weapons which today hang over the world like so many swords of Damocles. At a time when we should be organizing the world towards abolishing nuclear weapons, Before they abolish us we are instead indulging in admiration. Yeah, what's your problem? I'm so glad we got rid of this guy. I mean he's really he needs to shut up I mean Really, I mean slave you please just it is a fact the way they got rid of him to they they just redistribute or get him reorg zones, you know of his district a reorg

2:02:32 Reorganize get rid of this guy. He's a pain in the ass. It is a fact right that no American president has ever been to Nagasaki to the Nuclear Memorial there reproach it they couldn't do it. No look no because we did we build that We built that I would like to mention that there's a special date coming up John Maybe we can do something with the donations for that 10 11 12 is a Thursday Okay, so that's October 11th 2012 is a Thursday. Is there something special we can do 10 11 12 and 11 12? Maybe something can come up with something for us. Well people give us $1,011 and 12 cents yeah, there's that yeah, it's just thought the real sweet spot for these kinds of donations is between 50 and

2:03:31 And two hundred dollars. Oh really? I'm glad someone's paying attention. Anyway, so I got one. I got plenty, but go ahead. Okay, well then I get mine out of the way. Have you heard about this? India launches missiles unreported. No, have not heard it at all. India has test fired its nuclear capable Agni-3 ballistic missile from a base in the eastern state of Addisha. The surface-to-air missile with a range of more than 3,000 kilometers was successfully fired from the Badrach district, according to defense officials. The latest test comes two days after India test-fired its second 4,000-kilometer-range Agni-4 missile from the same base. So, what are they saying? Pakistan look out?

2:04:24 Don't know what the deal is I mean this was not reported by American news media. We don't talk about their crazy missiles, but it but if Iran launches a like a firecracker yeah, oh yeah Stop yeah, the details of the missile are also have if you want to hear him well interesting of the missile oh Yeah, details of Indian missile. Oh, hold on a second. Oh, I bet it can hurt you. Agni 3 is capable of carrying warheads weighing up to one and a half tons. It is 17 meters long, weighs around 50 tons and equipped with hybrid navigation, guidance and control systems along with advanced onboard computers.

2:05:09 The first development trial of Agni 3 was carried out in July 2006, but it failed to achieve the desired result. Three subsequent tests conducted in 2007, 2008 and 2010 were all successful. That's worth your $50 right there. Now here's another one. Do you know about Scotland? I've heard it exists, yes. You know they're breaking away from the UK? Well they'd like to, yes. Oh, well here's the Scotland in revolt clip from Russia Today. That's later but now thousands are set to march for independence in Edinburgh this weekend with people flocking to the capital from across Scotland. A referendum to break away from the UK is due to be held in 2014 and it's expected that the details could be hammered out by next month. OSHI's Jacob Greaves reports.

2:06:02 The event taking place in Edinburgh has been trumpeted as a stepping stone to the referendum to be held on independence in 2014. The organisers want similar demonstrations to take place on an annual basis, building up to that vote. their bid to try and gain some momentum on the issue. Organisers also stress that they are not just going to be supporters of the Scottish Nationalist Party in attendance, but also like to see those who normally vote for the Labour Party, for Liberal Democrats or Conservatives. Any issue and decision when it comes to independence is likely to be thrashed out here in the building behind me in Westminster. Here is where Alex Salmond, the head of the Scottish Nationalist Party, just this week met David Cameron, the Prime Minister. He also, though, Salmond, received a bitter rebuke from the Work and Pensions Minister. He said that Salmond and

2:06:53 and the Scottish Nationalist Party wouldn't be able to handle the welfare state independently. Well, the interesting thing is that a lot of the wealth for the United Kingdom comes from Scotland. All the oil is up there. Yes, and Scotland decided that they could handle, you know, this guy says, you guys can't handle the welfare state. You can't handle the welfare! We have money, you want it, we give it to you. So, meanwhile, the Scots say, yeah, it's bullcrap, we got all this oil, we're going to use that for the welfare state. But I thought that was a weird comment that they would say, you can't handle the welfare state. I mean, this is like, what is this saying about all these countries? Ah, you can't break away because you're poor and you're idiots. And we give you free money to be part of us. You poor shit. You poor shit.

2:07:41 I don't know man. This is not covered at all in the United States. No, you know what it is covered? Boardwalk Empire terror drills. Yesterday here in New York the NYPD held a mock terrorism drill on the set of the HBO show Boardwalk Empire which is constructed in Brooklyn and is a meticulous recreation of Atlantic City, the boardwalk in 1920. It gives the police department a realistic environment to hold exercises while not scaring the public half to death. Now, how does a boardwalk that looks like it was looked at 1920 give you a realistic simulation? Maybe they're gonna go back in time. What kind of realistic? I mean, really? That's not realistic. I think they shot some false flag movie.

2:08:29 I think they shot something there. There's something dubious about this report. It's very dubious. And again, poorly reported. And without asking the simple question you just asked, how is this realistic? How is it realistic? It's a set from 1920s. If you know how these sets are designed, yeah, the only thing that's kind of realistic is the frontispiece, the front of it. If you go into any of these buildings, they're set up for cameras and lighting. You drop out the back end. You drop out the back. There's no walls. It's realistic, there's no walls. I think they shot a PSA there or something. You watch, you watch. Let's just wait. Terror attack in Jersey. You can't trust anything that comes off on NBC. Well how about this then? I think this was, it might have been NBC or CBS. James Holmes, our Ronald McDonald look-alike so-called patsy for the Aurora, Colorado Batman shootings.

2:09:27 Now you remember that he looked like he was on drugs when he was first brought out. And it looks like they've got him on new medication. This is how James Holmes looked in his previous court appearances. Disheveled long hair dyed orange and inattentive to the point of almost seeming to fall asleep as if he was dazed or on medication. I mean, they're just coming out and saying it. I'd like to point that out. As if, no, no, he was dazed and on medication. But today a whole different look and demeanor. Have you seen the new look? The new James Holm look? I have not explained. His eyes are... it's like he's bugging out. Like he's completely bugging out! His dark brown hair, close cropped. A beard and mustache, neatly trimmed.

2:10:13 And he was alert, following the proceedings, at times even looking into the audience. As attorneys argued over access to the notebook he allegedly mailed to the University of Colorado. So the reporter on this story, he comes back after this little package that he rolls out and now he's going to really explain the truth that they've put him on new medication. I was in the courtroom for Holmes' first court appearance just after that shooting and I gotta tell you, Scott, the difference between what he looked like then and today was nothing short of stunning. I had to look twice to make sure I was seeing the same man. But because of the gag order, we have no idea what brought about this dramatic change. So we don't even- it may not even be the same guy! He's even saying it! I had to look twice, I didn't think it was the same guy!

2:11:03 Probably not. Of course it's not. His hair is all different. You gotta look at the pictures. It's just bugging out. I think it's the Helldoll. I'm so angry. I wish I could have gotten on the Helldoll. Okay, I got one kind of interesting clip. I think this is kind of like a throwback story that would I just took place in the Bay Area once and now it's apparently took place in Holland and I just think it's a funny story. Oh really? You're gonna do the Facebook thing? Come on, nobody gets to hear these stories here. Riot police had to be called into a suburban Dutch town where around 4,000 partygoers turned up at a teenager's birthday party. The crowd threw stones, bottles and even bicycles at police who had been put on standby after the party invitation went viral on Facebook. The girl forgot to mark her event as private and had to flee her home after over 100,000 users said they would attend.

2:12:02 Hold on a second. What a bull crap distraction. I don't think it's even a real story. Oh, no, it happened. Well, wait a minute. Are you telling me? Let me get this straight. Are you telling me that I could be on Facebook and just put out some announcement that I'm going to have a party? somewhere to promote a book maybe but let's say my birthday party will be this and that and oh I accidentally didn't put it on private or whatever. Stop. That part of course is not true. It was intentional. The whole idea was to get a party going and it was not about just putting it on private. That's bullcrap. But yeah, I mean, this is a Facebook promotion. I don't know what it is. It's a distraction. It's don't look at your political parties, your political system falling apart. We're about to screw you people into the European Union. Yeah, no, I'm not saying it's not. I just thought it was a story that seemed... It's like old... I don't know. I'm skeptical that it actually took place.

2:13:05 No, it did. It happened. It did happen. They were talking about it and I even saw stories like, oh, it's so cool. We're going to have a drone filming it all. And people like having a little, you know, remote control, one of those helicopter drones. It was like, who gives a crap? Just who gives a crap? Just don't waste my time with that. I'm looking for some promotional ideas for your book. So there was this, we didn't get an invite. The Social Good Summit. What? Yes, the Social Good Summit. You were not invited, were you? We are the social good. Oh, thank you. That is an opening of the show. This was a big, big to-do.

2:13:49 And Silicon Valley was invited. I mean, you're there in the milieu, and you're driving electric cars, but you should be reporting on this stuff. Even Hillary Clinton welcomed all of her techno experts, including some well-known outfits. I am so delighted to be joining you for this year's Social Goods Summit. And I want to thank Mashable, 92Y, the UN Foundation, Ericsson, the Gates Foundation, and UNDP for creating this extraordinary platform for global engagement. So that's it. Mashable is compromised. Mashable is now officially compromised and a puppet

2:14:31 of the New World Order and the State Department. You cannot trust anything that is on Mashable anymore. Pete, what's his name? What's his name? Can you hear me? Am I speaking in a funny voice? No, you sound great. Am I speaking in a funny voice? I went to the mashable.com slash sgs and jumped right to it. And they have a streaming, they're streaming this event. Is something wrong with our sound today? I don't know, do I sound strange to you? You sound a little strange to me. Alright, alright. Do I need to unplug? Yes. Yeah, I'll take a look at this thing. I'm gonna look at it right now, because it really, really annoyed me.

2:15:27 Uh, that Mashable is sold out. I'll play a little bit of the rest of Hillary's thing here. Well actually Cashman's on this podium as we speak. Oh really? Hold on. Is he saying something? I had to unplug. Okay well let me get it right now. Hold on let me see. I have a backup system I could go on it. Let's see what he's saying. He's live now on the stream? Yeah yeah yeah. Oh man, the guy is sold out. I mean the whole Mashable.com slash SGS. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Oh, could not load. Oh, here it is. Is that him on the right? Provides for our security and defense. Oh, where with Susan Rice? As a nation. Makes and implements our foreign policy.

2:16:05 There's no way that can be done without a central voice which is representative of the people. Which is not to say that it's a role for NCOs or for social activists. He couldn't get a business model together so this is what he had to do? I don't know. I didn't know about this until five minutes ago when you told me about it. Really, it's been going on for 48 hours already. I don't pay attention to these sorts of events. But this is a whole big Silicon Valley who-how, we're all groovy. It's in New York City, it's not very Silicon Valley-ish if you ask me. Oh, it's techno experts, listen. You know, leaders from around the world are coming together this week. Leaders from around the world, John. Where are you, huh? This week at the United Nations, seeking solutions for some of the toughest challenges we all face.

2:16:52 And at the same time, a revolution in social media is helping people everywhere take part in a global conversation about how we can work together to advance the common good. We are living at a moment when anyone can be a diplomat. All you have to do is hit send. Or blow Mashable. So that's that takes care of Mashable as being objective. Yeah. So I so I was the reason why I'm interested is because I was looking for video of Todd Park. Todd Park is our chief technology officer. You know, the guy who replaced Vivek and all that crap. And Kobol. Well, but he is better. He's better.

2:17:51 Here's the quote that I wish I had on video. We've really embraced the power of open innovation, said Park, who broke his job down into three primary tasks. Making new data available to the public, take already publicly available data that's unusable and make it usable, and making entrepreneurs and innovators aware of government data. Now here comes the quote, and I'm going to get this. I know it's been recorded somewhere. You take the data that's already there and ji-jitsu it. Put it in machine readable form, let entrepreneurs take it and turn it into awesomeness. What? I can't wait to get that quote from him. You've got to ji-jitsu the data and turn it into awesomeness. Oh, I got to get this. This is too rich. What are you doing? I've got another computer and I've got that. I got it. Now you're distracted. Now you're just watching that.

2:18:52 No, no, no. Hey, you know, Gitmo, you don't have to kick people just because they're dickheads in our chatroom, okay? It's alright. It's alright. Please don't turn into twit. That's okay. What? No, they booted someone out of the chatroom, which, then, just because he was yelling at me and I yelled back. Y'all don't have to. I think they should. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah, well, you're a troublemaker. I said people shouldn't be banned. You don't have to kick people out of the channel. So United Nations Foundation 92Y, what is that you think? I have no idea. That's techno experts. It's all techno experts. 92Y, that we have to look into for the next show. Wait a minute. Is Gizmo now angry at me?

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2:20:16 But we can't do this work alone. We need your help. So please use this unprecedented opportunity to become involved. Share your ideas, mobilize your friends, take action online and off. Click an action offline help us ensure that this global conversation delivers results for people Okay. Anyway, so there was some action. We had some real action going on and and Apparently the cyber wars have begun John. Are you aware of this? I didn't have any salvos

2:21:02 This just in, national security officials tell NBC News that cyber attacks this week that slowed the consumer websites of JPMorgan Chase and the Bank of America are being carried out by the government of Iran. One source says the attacks are looking to cause significant damage. A Chase spokesman told CNBC the website was having problems earlier today but is now fixed. He declined to comment on whether the web problems were the result of a cyber attack or not. So, when you, essentially, when you suck and your website sucks, or you have no money, you just, oh, we're being attacked by Iran! That's really outrageous. Just saying, oh, just being attacked by Iran. Yeah, right. I mean, yeah, but the State Department confirmed... Iranians are going to cut themselves off from the internet and become, do a country-wide internet.

2:21:56 Which is kind of the way it began here. And I think it's going to start a trend. If they can pull it off and they can just keep themselves locked out, other countries will follow suit. It's the beginning of the end. And we're using the internet as a weapon instead of using it as a tool of love. You know, some way you get, it just opens things up. We're using it as a weapon. It's a tool of love. Delivery mechanism. This is killing the internet. In fact, the end of show clip. You want I'm not done, but you want to do that now because we're not done yet, but if you want no no no I'm just gonna be I'm just teasing the end of show. Oh, you're teasing the end of show clip This doesn't discuss this specifically, but it is about the dangers that are that were witnessing it And it's Richards of all people of course. It's the very entertaining Richard Stallman. Oh

2:22:49 Okey-dokey. Who was on Russia Today ranting about the evils of censorship on the internet, but that's for when Adam is done with whatever he's... What's your next thing? Well, I was going to go back to where we started this morning with this fantastic session with Janet Lucina Politano. We need to be very, very afraid of everything in the entire world. With Olsen. This Olsen douche, what's his first name again? He's the guy that he's a lawyer and he is now in charge of the anti

2:23:28 the terrorism thing. He's the counterterrorism czar. And then Perkins, who is the assistant or the deputy FBI director. And so they were asked several different questions. We've already talked about some of the TSA stuff. Let's listen to what Lucy Napolitano thinks are the biggest threats to these United States. I would add to what was said the nature of a home... She sounds wasted. Islamist, terrorist, or terrorism. What we saw, for example, the arrest in Chicago last Saturday, I think it was Saturday, of an individual. I'll have to check the script to schedule the call sheet. So yeah, it was Saturday. And we've seen a pattern of this, or several of these instances over the last year. I think the internet serves as a facilitator for that. There you go. It's a facilitator for that. It's not a tool of love.

2:24:24 And I think the the so-called lone wolf can also be a lone Islamist in that regard motivated by motivations that may be behind for example by Motivation I knew you'd love that I knew you'd love it listen to the whole sentence motivated by motivation be a lone Islamist in that regard motivated by motivations that may be behind for example what occurred in Benghazi What motivation motivated by talking in double talk she's hammered. I think you're absolutely right. I think she I think she's on drugs I think she's hammered. So here's Matthew Olson Matthew G Olson former NSA guy lawyer and he wrote the book about national security being actually a financial problem guy talks out of the side of his mouth when a guy talks out of the side of his mouth what does that mean and

2:25:17 It means he's a sharp guy talking out of the side of his mouth. He's literally talking out of the... He's talking out of the side of his mouth. He talks out of the right hand bottom corner of his mouth. Like this. That means he had a stroke. No, he did not have a stroke. Well, usually that's what it means. No, I think he's a shady character. Oh, okay. Well, you got a stroke or is a shady character. Wait a minute. Isn't there a saying he talks out of the side of his mouth? Isn't there saying yeah, you can talk out of both sides of your mouth. Is that is in there just one side? No, you can talk out of both sides. I mean, you say one thing onto this side, and then you say something else out of this side. Well, he's saying the one only out of the right side. Here's what he says. Director Olsen, how about you? What's your... Director Olsen, I'm Lieberman. I mean, how come this guy, he's an independent, right, Lieberman?

2:26:05 Yeah, the Republican Party kicked him out and so he ran independent. They need to kick this guy out of the country. Oh no, is it, I don't know, maybe it was a Democrat. Yeah, he was a Democrat, they kicked him out. He's an a-hole is what he is. He represents the a-hole party. He could have been vice president. What's your, what are your major concerns? He talks like he has a potato in his mouth. ...about sources of threats to our homeland. Enough with the homeland! Why is he even saying this? Threats to our homeland. I hate that meme. Because it's bullcrap. Where do you live? In the homeland? What are your major concerns about sources of threats to our homeland? In terms of the threat to the United States homeland, I would put AQ in the Arabian Peninsula at the top of the list. Oh, AQ. Write this down, John.

2:26:54 AQ in the Arabian Peninsula, AQAP at the top. But I would also put again AQ Core, notwithstanding its greatly diminished capability. AQ Core, write it down John, AQ Core. Wow. AQ Core. Does he have a slideshow for this? No, he's coming out of the side of his mouth, I'm telling you. Start talking about AQ Core up at the top. But there's more. AQ Core's dead. No, he says that even though they've been diminished, they're still really important. But I would also put again AQ Core notwithstanding its greatly diminished capability, it does retain the intent and we've seen this to carry on. It sounds like Geithner.

2:27:35 tack even if it's a smaller scale unless this kid attack and then we see in the past and listen listen to the deliver my right guy yeah but listen we will write right job that's right yeah that's right even jobs right or listen and outstanding it's greatly diminished capability yeah it does retain the intent and we've seen this too to carry out an attack even if it's a smaller scale unless this kid attack and then in the past against the u.s. homeland And then third I would and again these are not in any particular order, but I would also include on that list Iran and Hezbollah Echoing the comment about it really that they're The likelihood of attack inside the United States depends largely on events in the Middle East and what we see all right So let me just get this straight the biggest threats to our homeland are people who live on the Arabian Peninsula and Iran

2:28:33 What are they getting on the plane and flying it over here? Are they bringing fighters? Are they taking it walking over? I mean, what? This seems like this is far away. I mean, this is the biggest threat. Ever been to the Middle East? It takes forever to get there. It's a pain in the ass. I mean, I mean, this is the biggest threat to the homeland. Is this the biggest threat to the homeland? I mean, come on. I mean, wake up, people. Alright, here's Perkins about the cyber threats. He's the deputy director of the FBI. Organized crime in cyberspace offers a higher profit with lower probability of being identified and prosecuted. Hold on, John, that's our next gig. Hold on, let me write that down.

2:29:16 higher profit, no chance of being identified, no cost. This is a great gig for us. We've got enough techno experts on our team. We should become cyber warriors. I have an idea we could offer say that we somebody we know someone with 50 million dollars that we got to get out of the country and they can help us out. Yeah all they have to do is just open a bank account Yeah, and then give us ten bucks, and we'll send them 50 million. Okay, you might want to unplug and replug because you went... I did nothing! I did nothing! Okay, you sound good now. Listen. ...and prosecuted. And hackers and hacktivist groups such as Anonymous and LulzSec are pioneering their own forms of digital anarchy. Okay, let me just get this straight. Hacktivist groups like LulzSec

2:30:06 Anonymous whose websites are still up today by the way you haven't taken their websites down They're pioneering the new activism which you're right John is clearly bad with these diverse threats We anticipate that cyber security may well become our highest priority in years to come That is why we are strengthening our cyber capabilities in the same way we enhanced our intelligence and national security capabilities in the wake of the September 11th attacks. I guess we're going to get felt up online now. We are focusing our cyber division on computer intrusions and network attacks. We are also hiring additional computer scientists to provide expert technical support to critical investigations ongoing in the field.

2:30:51 As part of these efforts, we are expanding our cyber squads in each field office to become cyber task forces. Oh man, I want to be a cyber squad task force! That will be focused on intrusions and network attacks. Yeah. We are also working with our partners to improve on the National Cyber Investigative Joint Task Force, or NCIJTF. NCIJTF? I want that business card! The FBI led multi-agency focal point for coordinating and sharing of cyber threat information. Step back citizen, NCIJITF here. Alright, so he's kind of boring. But I do need to wrap it up with the executive order that we've been talking about.

2:31:32 I got a lot of flack by the way for that draft executive order that I read on the show, that we deconstructed a couple episodes ago. I got a lot of, like, that's bogey, that's bogey, that's bullcrap, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh. Did you get any of that? Are you there even? Are you even still listening? Are you connected to this program? Wow. I was just talking to myself the whole time. This is very slow. Testing. Okay. No, you were, I was saying stuff and you weren't hearing me. No. All right. You're good. So here's the question. You know that thing that happened a couple of weeks ago, Microsoft, his own police department had to go all over the world and crack down on some, on a couple of botnets and all this. Where's the FBI in all this? Well, they're still hiring.

2:32:27 I've been telling you, here's an example. A number of years ago, there was some guy who was being harassed by some hackers and it turned out to be some kid in his basement somewhere and he called the FBI because they were interfering with his machine and his, I think his business and they said they didn't have time to help him. And so he said, well what if I track the guy? I'll go ahead, do whatever you want but we don't have time for this. And so he went and tracked down the guy. Excuse me got his home address found out where the guy wasn't told the cops and they still wouldn't do anything. This is For that yeah, yeah, well It's about to get a whole lot worse, so you heard what I said about the executive order yes the people heard everything okay, so Lieberman asks Lucy if if how the executive order is coming along and

2:33:21 I think this is kind of important to know. As you know, the Senate failed to pass comprehensive... Oh, this is Kaka. I'm sorry. Here's your guy from Hawaii, Kaka. ...cyber security legislation prior to the August recess. Because the prospects of enacting legislation this year are dim, I support the President's use of his authorities to improve cyber security of the nation's critical infrastructure such as the power grid. My question to you is, what are the contours of the executive order? Contours of the executive order? Currently.

2:34:10 Under consideration so another good one so everyone knows that this is happening So my draft was not that bull crappy as people made it out to be and nobody said anything to me Oh, well, no, they don't because you don't read your email. Do you? Expect it will be when will it be expected to be issued? Senator kaka there is an exact just imagine hi. My name is Adam kaka. I just sound like poop I could have order that is being considered. It is still being drafted in the interagency process, but I would say that it is close to completion, pending a few issues that need to be resolved at the highest levels.

2:34:59 uh... and of course uh... the president uh... will need to be involved it's perhaps easier to say what can't be in an executive order as opposed to what can be an executive order He's drunk, she's hammered. There are at least three things I can think of just off the top of my head that an executive order cannot solve. One is it cannot solve some of the limitations we have on personnel and personnel hiring and salaries and how that works. That's the number one problem is you can't get more people, more slavelets to run stuff. That's our top problems.

2:35:59 It cannot solve issues. It's the largest organization we have. I know! But half the country is working for TSA or DHS. She needs more! Need more! It's about liability protections which are often viewed as a mechanism to foster timely and effective information sharing. And it cannot, we cannot by legislation increase criminal penalties for the bad actors that we find or that the FBI finds. Bad actors. So those are at least three important areas that even a robust EO would not be able to cover. Wow. How about privacy? Not a problem there I guess, Janet.

2:36:41 It gets me. All these people working for DHS are not productive. During the Roosevelt administration, where we're in a depression, at least he did the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Works Project Administration, they built bridges on the government dime. They built a coit tower in San Francisco. They hired artists to paint it inside. They did all these things, and you ended up, yeah, this was still government dole money, but when you walked away from it, there was something, at least there was a bridge you could walk over. What is DHS doing? They are just standing around, feeling people up. This is an unproductive administration. It's actually shameful. Okay, so I'm gonna wrap it up, and then I want you to get out of here with your clip. I have, thanks to, I think, Yellow Jacket, I have now the video of the chief tech, this is the gig I'm gonna go for.

2:37:30 Okay, this is the gig when this show finally Peters out which looks like it's on the downturn at least the donation part I think we're doing great. Then here's the gig I'm going for chief technology officer here. He is at the Social Goods Summit John it requires no new regulation. It doesn't require expenditure of large amounts is Todd Park. Oh All you do is you basically take data that taxpayers have already paid for and you jujitsu it, if you will, right? In machine readable form, computer readable form into the public domain and then you let entrepreneurs tap into this national resource and turn it into awesomeness. I'm telling you, this is the gig for me. How come these guys are all fast talking bullshitters? Well, he's also Asian.

2:38:21 Oh, yes, oh, yeah, it's not an Asian. Just sounds like a fast talker. Yeah, well you see Forbid we have any well we of course Americans don't know anything about technology so we first that Indian guy and then this guy yeah, no this this is I mean this he's a V that he's not an American I didn't say he's not American, but this is like a VC talks like a VC We do Jitsu we do Jitsu the information and we turn into awesomeness. What does that even mean? It's like skip logic I don't see it. Right. Oh my god. He even said right. Oh my god. Let me hear that again. Oh my god. He even said right. Oh god. Entrepreneurship innovation that gave us everything from navigation systems to four square, square. Four square, four square. No, he didn't say that. What? He said four square. He didn't say four square, square. In fact, actually, civilian and commercial access to GPS

2:39:13 alone is estimated to have contributed $90 billion in value to the American economy. They all sound like Geithner. As well as improving all of our lives in all kinds of amazing ways. So this is actually a wonderful play in a lot of ways. It requires no new legislation. It requires no new regulation. It doesn't require expenditure of large amounts of taxpayer capital. All you do is you basically take data that taxpayers have already paid for and you jujitsu it, if you will. right? In machine readable form, computer readable form into the public domain and then you let entrepreneurs tap into this national resource and turn it into awesomeness, right? Right? No, that's not right! What's he talking about? And he does this thing when he says jujitsu he like he like goes, he does he does like a he does a chop? He does like one hand goes up the other one goes down. He does a jujitsu.

2:40:11 Wow, this is the gig for me. This is me and my Chevy Volt. You have the right car, that's for sure. I'm here for the CTO gig. I got my Chevy Volt over here. Wow, okay. Well, a lot of stuff I think we didn't get to, including the executive order. The president has now announced the California transportation projects for the high-speed rail. under the We Can't Wait moniker, the downtown San Francisco Ferry Terminal Expansion Project.

2:40:48 is now funded as well as the Fresno to Bakersfield section of the... Fresno to Bakersfield! Because everybody wants to go from Fresno to Bakersfield. Fast. Real fast. That's 114 miles of awesomeness. We just jiu-jitsu that rail line and turn it into 114 miles of awesomeness, right? This is a fiasco of the highest order. Fact. Fact. Alright, this high-speed rail is a is it laughable. Well. It got me kicked out of my first apartment Yeah, and they're still working in that area. They're making a mess I don't know what the deal is and they're gonna build one. Yeah a bus terminal They had a bus terminal, and there's nobody ever used I mean you use it for the rush hour then it was empty This is a laughable as long as it's not mashable whatever

2:41:43 Alright, you want to tell me about your end of what are we doing here? Are we just playing the clip after this show or what? Play the clip after the show. It's just all men going on and on about how everybody's about the evils out there trying to shut down the internet course Talman's a little nutty but but you know he's enjoyable nutty and he's like he takes it everything to the extreme and it's not as though well When he says that we should be just stealing everything, he's actually saying we should be stealing everything. I like Stallman, I don't like his RSS feed because his RSS feed goes back to his RSS feed. I know Stallman and he's a little hard to deal with sometimes. Have you hung out with him? I have, yeah actually. Kind of.

2:42:31 Did you drink fine wine with him? No? He's not that kind of guy. He's not a guy you want to drink wine apparently He's into parrots. I heard that yeah All right, well John there's plenty of work to do Right after the show we are going to be testing a new audio system And then it's right back to the social goodness show on mashable can't wait And we'll be talking about that on Thursday. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA, that's highly important. Coming to you here from the capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody, my name is Adam Currie. And from northern Silicon Valley where I don't know what to tell you, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we have a No Agenda producer update coming up right after the end of show clip on this show on the NoAgendaStreams.com. Adios, mofos. Censorship.

2:43:19 And the internet requires surveillance in order to do censorship, so with the censorship goes total surveillance also. And you see this with the systems of punishment without trial. The UK has an official system of punishment without trial called the Digital Economy Act. In the US, there's no such law, but Obama brokered a friendly agreement between the major ISPs and the movie and record companies, which were the enemies of the freedom of Internet users, where the ISPs will unofficially punish people without trial if they're accused of sharing. You only have to be accused, no proof is required. Of course,

2:44:09 Sharing shouldn't be punished at all in any fashion because sharing is good. That's part of why we should have the Internet, so people can share copies of any published work. Now when I say share, I mean something specific. I mean non-commercial redistribution of exact copies. Sharing must be legal, sharing that is, of any published work. People shouldn't be allowed to share your personal data. That's a different kind of issue. But once something is published, it's available in some fashion to anybody. So there's no secrecy about that and people should be free to share it. It's got to be legalized.

2:44:50 All the things that they do to try to stop people from sharing, they are all evil in their purpose. And of course, they tend to be evil in their methods because sharing is good and with the Internet sharing is easy, so people share. And when somebody is trying to stop you from doing something that's both easy and good, It's not easy to stop you. They're going to have to threaten to hurt you in nasty ways. So that's what they do with these three strikes type... laws of punishment without trial, they abolish the basic principle of justice. No punishment without a fair trial. And that shows just how far they're willing to go in destroying everything that a just society is based on to achieve their evil end.