Episode 44 · Saturday, 23 August 2008

Probably a Super Delegate

A vice-presidential announcement collides with eligibility lawsuits and suspicious superdelegate deaths while the Beijing Olympics face allegations of rigged matches and age-falsification scandals.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 44

About this episode

Joe Biden joins the Democratic ticket as Barack Obama faces a legal challenge from Philip J. Berg regarding his constitutional eligibility for the presidency. While Biden proposes $1 billion in emergency aid for Georgia following the Russian invasion, critics like Rush Limbaugh point to the Senator's 1988 academic resume scandals as a liability. The sudden death of Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones and the assassination of Bill Gwatney have sparked intense speculation regarding superdelegate shifts and the so-called Clinton body count.

Barack Obama's campaign plane recently performed an emergency landing after an inflatable slide deployed mid-flight, an incident the NTSB explained with unusual speed. Financial markets remain volatile as CNBC host Jim Cramer labels the Fannie Mae situation an inside job, while the Plunge Protection Team reportedly maneuvers to prevent a total collapse. In Beijing, the 2008 Olympics face scrutiny over rigged boxing matches, underage Chinese gymnasts, and the technicalities of Michael Phelps' seventh gold medal win involving Omega timing systems.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak prepare for a meeting with a self-proclaimed Pleiadian extraterrestrial facilitated by Nibiru.nl to discuss the 2012 apocalypse. The duo examines the history of CIA sabotage in Tim Weiner's Legacy of Ashes and warns of FBI roving bugs capable of activating cell phone microphones remotely. From the windowless AT&T Spook Central in San Francisco to the failing banks of Kansas, the reality of Gitmo Nation continues to unfold.


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CHAPTER 01 / 33 Discussion

Joe Biden, Georgia Aid, Barack Obama Russia Stance

Joe Biden proposed sending $1 billion in emergency aid to Georgia following conflict with Russia. This stance is contrasted with Barack Obama's earlier perceived alignment with Russian arguments, potentially influenced by advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski. The shift in policy reflects a more aggressive support for the Georgian president.

joe biden· barack obama· georgia· russia· zbigniew brzezinski· foreign aid

00:01 It's time once again for that transcontinental freight train express that we know as Gitmo Nation. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, east in the United Kingdom, my name is Adam Curry. And I'm John C. DeVorek from Gitmo Nation, west. Also known as Silicon Valley, north. The place that doesn't really exist. Doesn't. Yeah. Hey John, how you doing? Not bad. So you know the news, right? Uh, Biden? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. A very interesting choice, relevant to the European Union actually. Oh, tell me why. Joe Biden suggested, I don't know if you could find out when, earlier this week I think, that the US send $1 billion in aid to Georgia. Yeah, I find that interesting because if I'm not mistaken, at the beginning of the fiasco,

00:59 Our friend Barack was kind of on the Russian side of the argument. Which is that Georgia was... With a backer with a name like Brzezinski, what do you expect? You just stunned me with that one, sorry. You didn't like it? Never mind. Stopped me in my tracks. I'm sorry, Al, shut up. We still gotta get into it here. Okay. I'm looking to see what Barack said. So he said, you know, he was like, kind of seemed to be, and then he backed off really quick because, you know, it wasn't the national policy to take that position.

01:35 And then this guy Biden, you know, he's totally in, you know, in to that Georgian president, I guess. I don't know. Maybe he wants a street named after him. I have no idea. I think you can do with a lot less. It doesn't take a billion to get a street or an airport named after you in Georgia these days. No, probably not. I was looking to see what it was. Yeah, but he suggested a billion dollars. What do you know about Biden? I'd love to hear your thoughts, your analysis. Well, curiously...

CHAPTER 02 / 33 Discussion

Joe Biden Academic Resume, Rush Limbaugh, 1988 Campaign

Rush Limbaugh recently revisited Joe Biden's failed 1988 presidential campaign, highlighting instances where Biden allegedly falsified his academic resume and credentials. Limbaugh played old campaign advertisements to contrast Biden's past claims about presidential experience with his current role on the Obama ticket. Biden's history of making up degrees led to his public discredit during that election cycle.

joe biden· rush limbaugh· 1988 campaign· academic credentials· plagiarism

02:11 Ah, you are an expert, of course, in Joe Bidenism. Yeah, well, of course, neither one of us know much of anything. We don't know nothing about anything. But we do listen to talk radio. Yes. And Rush Limbaugh went after Biden last week sometime around, I think it was Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday, whatever, and by playing some of his old advertisements. for his 1988 campaign, where Biden was, you know, he keeps trying to be the president. And, but in 1988, he apparently had phonied up his academic resume and,

02:58 Then he got busted for it, and then it was like, I mean I was rolling my eyes, I remember when it happened, you know, he said he had this degree, and you know, he said he had a couple extra degrees he didn't have. He just, he made stuff up. And so he was discredited, you know, it was like what a bonehead. I said, well, that's the end of this guy. He'll never be back in politics. I mean, it would never be, in fact, I was shocked he was re-elected. I mean, how do you stand there just bold-faced and lying about your credentials and still get re-elected? That is pretty amazing. Only in America, actually. Well, it happens apparently a lot. So everybody just laughed it off I guess. But what Limbaugh was doing wasn't harping on that. I'm harping on it, but he was harping on the fact that all of his ads in 88 were around the theme

03:49 That the office of the president is not a training ground, it's not the minor leagues. You should have a lot of experience, you shouldn't be some joker who just showed up yesterday. Right, which is why Barack Obama qualifies. Right, so funny. So I figure they're gonna throw this in his face. Back in his face, yeah. Here's some quotes. This is before he was announced as the candidate for VP. I left the country convinced that this is about Georgia. What was he doing in Georgia? Anyway, I left the country convinced that Russians' invasion of Georgia... Nice. Invasion? Yeah. Maybe the one... Maybe the one... This must be a misquote. Maybe the one of the most significant events to occur in Europe since the end of communism.

CHAPTER 03 / 33 Discussion

Georgia Invasion, Political Donor Connections, Lady de Rothschild

Joe Biden characterized the Russian invasion of Georgia as one of the most significant European events since the end of communism. Meanwhile, the political landscape shows deep connections between candidates and elite donors, including Lady de Rothschild's support for Hillary Clinton and David Rockefeller's donations to John McCain. These affiliations suggest that major political bases are covered regardless of the election outcome.

georgia· politico· lady de rothschild· david rockefeller· john mccain· barack obama

04:42 When Congress... What? Yeah, this is a quote. This is on Politico. When Congress reconvenes, I intend to work with the administration to seek congressional approval for $1 billion in emergency assistance for Georgia, with a substantial down payment on that aid to be included in Congress's next supplemental spending bill. Hmm. Interesting. Well, you know, this is just going to be... Of course, now I'm guessing, I could be wrong, But I'm guessing that the left in this country, which is the big supporters of Obama, and the youth, and the bloggers, are pretty much, you know, the sides have been taken on this Georgia-Russia thing, in terms of like, who started it, whose fault is it, blah blah blah, back and forth. And I'm guessing that they are probably siding a bit with Russia.

05:41 and they're not going to like this Biden guy. Really? Well, no, certainly not if he continues. Well, this was before he was announced as the candidate. It's kind of interesting to see across the board who's involved with whom. So we've got Obama has Brzezinski and Hillary Clinton has Lady Barron de Rothschild. who now by the way is going by her maiden name Forrester which kind of makes sense but then there was talk of David Rockefeller donated to McCain's campaign which is perhaps is being questioned if it was legal or not but it's like they've got all the bases covered everyone's hooked up to the wagon doesn't matter what happens now we're good to go everybody

CHAPTER 04 / 33 Discussion

Stephanie Tubbs Jones Death, Clinton Body Count, Superdelegate Shifts

The sudden death of Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones is discussed within the context of the "Clinton body count" conspiracy theory. Tubbs Jones and Bill Gwatney, the Arkansas Democratic Party chairman who was recently assassinated, both switched their superdelegate support from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama shortly before their deaths. These events have fueled speculation about foul play intended to influence the delegate count.

stephanie tubbs jones· bill clinton· barack obama· superdelegates· arkansas· bill gwatney

06:40 Everybody's got some lock on somebody. That's right, right. Oh, and boy did we nail it last week, John, with the Clinton body count. Yeah, now we got a couple more. Now we have representative Tubbs, yeah. Yeah, dead. Yes. But then again, we nailed the fact that this is going on, and now of course the election's coming up and there's a bunch of other flim-flammery, fluxum, type of thing going, you know, happening, including that crazy lawsuit which we're going to talk about I'm sure. Yeah, now did we talk about Tubbs? No, Tubbs happened after we got the lawsuit. No, no, she died just a few days ago. Here's what bothered me about that. First of all, man, what a career. I'd never heard of her before but she really was quite a powerhouse from just the record that I'm reading. But here's where it gets kind of weird. So here's the series of events. Hold on, let me just put my tinfoil hat on for a second.

07:40 Here's a series of events. So the cops pull her over. This is, was it Ohio, I think? The cops, you know, I don't know. Yeah, the cops pull her over. Well, they see a car driving at high speed erratically. And then, before, wait, wait, wait, before you tell the story, we better, I think we should back people up and go back to the body count. Which is that either Clinton's boys or Obama's gangsters from Chicago are killing these people. to to try to influence the that's the superdelegates count because they're both superdelegates right that were both to see we have two dead superdelegates here's the plot two dead super superdelegates one killed by a gunfire two weeks ago in arkansas leader of the uh... arkansas democratic party right and the perpetrator shot himself you know he was in and then he killed himself yeah yeah oh by the way uh... and this was

08:37 Oh, I forget his name. Guantri, I want to say. His name escapes me for a moment. He had recently switched from supporting Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama. He switched in June, I think. End of June. And so now we have Representative Tubbs, who also was a, in fact she was a, I think she was a chairwoman for something for Hillary Clinton. And she also switched her public super delegate vote to support Barack Obama in July. Right. But we don't know, neither one of us know, whether or not they had, before they were killed, whether they had somehow indicated they were going to switch back, and that may be the reason for them being killed. Well, we haven't actually determined that Tubbs was killed, and that's kind of what I wanted to get into. Okay, let's go back here. Where we left off in our story,

CHAPTER 05 / 33 Discussion

Stephanie Tubbs Jones Aneurysm, Hospital Lockdown, Euthanasia Suspicion

The circumstances surrounding the death of Stephanie Tubbs Jones from an aneurysm are questioned, specifically the speed with which she was removed from life support. Reports of a hospital lockdown and conflicting statements from Nancy Pelosi regarding the timing of her death are highlighted as suspicious. The lack of collision damage to her vehicle despite reports of erratic high-speed driving adds to the skepticism of the official narrative.

stephanie tubbs jones· aneurysm· nancy pelosi· life support· dnr· ohio

09:34 You had a cop pulling her over. Yeah, right. So, well, no, it actually starts with, because the whole story is she died of an aneurysm. That's the long and the short of it. So the cops say we saw a car driving at high speed erratically. They pulled up next to the car. The driver didn't respond to them saying pull over. Which is like, wow, how long can that last? That can't last more than like 10 seconds before you crash into something. But okay, I'll take it. They say that they were able to move her off to the side, so high speed, remember. Now I've seen the pictures of her car moved off to the side, it's kind of like on a piece of grass next to the road. No collision damage or anything. And so apparently she had suffered an aneurysm and was rushed off to the hospital. Here's where it gets weird.

10:21 The reports then came out that she had passed away and Nancy Pelosi says, she's the one that I guess passed it on to the press first, she says she received an email from whom is not known that said she was dead. But then after that it was like no, no, no, she's not dead, she's in critical condition but she's stable in the hospital. I've received reports that the hospital was locked down. Could be, maybe for a representative that could be important too, but really locking it down sounded a little bit weird. Seems like more of a mobster thing. A little bit, but then get this, this is what really kills me. A little bit past midnight they took her off life support systems and she died. And I'm reading that and I'm going like,

11:06 That can't be true. That's not how America works. We had Terry Shivo hooked up to a machine for years. There's just no way that someone just gets unhooked for an aneurysm. It sounded really off to me. Yeah, and nobody has questioned it at all. I mean zero people have brought up the fact that, I myself didn't think of the Shivo situation. Well I know this because I know a lot about euthanasia coming from the Netherlands that does have a

11:42 a policy that allows it under certain circumstances and I know that the United States just isn't like that. Certainly not just hours later to... but you know the statement actually was, you know, she was removed from life support. I'm like, that just doesn't happen that quick. I mean don't you need a court order or something in the United States for that to happen? Well, I mean there is a process. You sign a bunch of documents. There's a do not, there's a do not, it's called a do not resuscitate or do not something thing that a next of kin can sign. Right. And I think it's a DNR or whatever it's called. But anyway, you sign off on this and so when the person starts to, you know, something happens, they usually don't put them on life support. If you're put on life support in the first place,

12:28 you're gonna be on it for a while. It seems to me you just don't go on it with less than 24 hours. You say, well, I guess this was a waste of money. You flip the switch. It wasn't just, it wasn't 24, it was like four or five hours. And I know lots of cases of aneurysms where people recover. I mean, it can take a while. But just from beginning to end, the whole story just sounds kind of weird, you know? I've been on the road where somebody's had some situation like this happen as they're driving. And I actually knew somebody once who had died from an aneurysm while driving. And something always weird happens. One guy slammed into a tree, because the first thing he did was he stomped on the gas and it was the end of that. And one time I was going across the bridge and some guy obviously was having some issue.

13:16 Because he was in his pickup truck and then he just all of a sudden was going at full speed slamming into one side of the bridge wall and then coming all the way over and slamming into the other and then we all, the whole bunch of us in the back of course. Hoping this somehow that the car didn't spin around and start heading in the other direction Yeah, you all slow down and watch this go on you know bang bang bang and then the car is sitting by the side of the roads with the with the smoke or steam coming out of the radiator and the guy's leaning against the wheel I mean, I just don't see I don't see it being being calm no collision

CHAPTER 06 / 33 Discussion

Political Violence Theories, Clinton Associates, Superdelegate Depression

A discussion of the high number of deaths among associates of the Clintons focuses on the prevalence of violent causes such as gunshots and hangings. While some attribute these deaths to a coordinated effort to reclaim political power, others suggest the stress of switching political affiliations from Clinton to Obama could lead to depression. The total count of suspicious deaths is estimated to be around 38 individuals.

clinton body count· hillary clinton· superdelegates· political violence· suicide

13:53 damage nothing at all manages to pull over yeah yeah no it's a very suspicious set of circumstances so we're promoting the idea that Something screwy is going on. It seems that we're just saying John. We're just something Something screwy appears to be going on but but the question that we still have is Who would be behind it would be the Clintons which I think you subscribe to because of these body count sites and the I mean, how much many more dead people have to be show up on the list? I mean, for real, man. How many people, friends and or associates do you know that are dead? You know, I know a couple.

14:42 And maybe really, really distant, but not like, you know, people that I worked with, people that were my friends. You know, their count is up to like, it's like 38 or something. It's unbelievable. Yeah, Mike, yeah, the people that I've known that are dead, and I'm older than Hillary, well, maybe not. But everything. You're cuter than Hillary, that's for sure. Thank you. So, um... I don't have five. I mean, some people have died, you know, older people I know have died of old age. There's been a couple here and there, but yeah, no, there's too many, they're too suspicious. And by the way, it's all violence. It's all either through self-inflicted gunshot or gunshot from somebody else. I mean, every single person, you know, I think one person was caught hanged.

15:29 Well, the one thing we might want to take into account is that, and you know there's a lot of violence and a lot of suicides, but then again these are all Democrats. And these two being superdelegates who had recently changed their affiliation for Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama. That would make anybody depressed. Yeah, yeah for sure. Well anyway, we're going to find out if that is the ploy, if it worked, we'll find out next week or this coming week, Wednesday? Yeah, it starts up and then the thing that of course which brings us to the second story, which is the one that... Is the lineup of speaking and the vote count. No, is that lawsuit, the complaint against Barack Obama by another Hillary supporter, that guy by the way.

CHAPTER 07 / 33 Discussion

Philip J. Berg Lawsuit, Barack Obama Eligibility, 9/11 Truthers

Hillary Clinton supporter and former Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg filed a legal complaint in Pennsylvania challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency. The lawsuit alleges that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a natural-born U.S. citizen as required by the Constitution. Berg, who is also known for his involvement in the 9/11 Truth movement, is viewed by some as a "nut job" despite his legal background.

philip j. berg· barack obama· lawsuit· natural born citizen· kenya· pennsylvania

16:16 It was one of the big promoters of Hillary. Why don't you explain what we got? Because I got this PDF file and I have heard of this before. I blogged it. You blogged it? Okay. So it's on the blog. But I linked to a free, unfortunately I linked to, instead of just posting the PDF file you sent, I went on the internet to find somebody else who has it already posted and I just linked to that. But it turned out to be from the Free Republic. and i got a bunch of flack from the blog readers you know free republic there are a bunch of nut balls right right and so but well so the idea is is this is a

16:52 Was it a motion? No. What is the filing called? It's a complaint. A complaint saying that, and I've heard this one before, and I've seen it debunked in different ways, that Barack Obama cannot, his background is not valid for him to become United States President because there's these rules that were set up in the, I think, Fourth Amendment? You have to be at least 35 years of age, but you have to be either a natural born citizen... It's not actually in the Constitution, not in an amendment. I'm sorry, in the Constitution. But, and there's also some laws about, you know, what constitutes natural born. Natural born. Yeah. But it's certainly an irritating roadblock.

17:35 Well, there's more to it with this thing. It's a long filing. This guy, Philip J. Berg, who did this, is a Hillary supporter. And I mean, I'm thinking the Republicans are going, do we really have to even do any work here to screw up this election for these guys? I mean, Karl Rove must be sitting back there saying, jeez, I'm losing money on this deal. I should be, that should be me doing this, damn it. I should be, although it does have the kind of the imprint of a Rove trick. Of a Rovesque move, yeah, sure. I mean it does, I mean you look at it and you go, this is good. And here's what the kicker is, now by the way, this is Philip J. Berg is a 9-11 truther.

18:15 And he's also a former State Deputy Attorney General of some state, I forgot, Pennsylvania or someplace. I mean, so he's not a complete lunatic. It's been filed in Pennsylvania, so that makes sense. He's not a complete lunatic, but if you go on YouTube, you'll find a bunch of, you know, where he's talking about the 9-11 stuff. And you look at him and you go, he's not a complete lunatic, but he's probably just one of our normal nut jobs. and uh... And he's got that kind of air about him of one of these, you know, well, and oh, you know, I don't see how they can find out that blah, blah, blah. He's got that kind of engineer's like pace and patter of a know-it-all engineer. Anyway, so he's made this claim that Barack wasn't even born here, that the whole thing is a scam. He was born in Kenya and he never was a US citizen. I think he was born in Hawaii, wasn't he? He didn't use a passport until 1981.

CHAPTER 08 / 33 Discussion

Obama Aliases, Biden VP Announcement Timing, Media Distraction

The Philip J. Berg lawsuit is interpreted as a tactic to introduce various aliases for Barack Obama, such as Barry Soetoro and Barry Dunham, into the public consciousness. The sudden announcement of Joe Biden as the vice-presidential candidate is viewed as a strategic distraction to pull media attention away from the eligibility lawsuit. The rollout of the Biden news via text message and Twitter was reportedly rushed, bypassing the campaign's original schedule.

barack obama· barry soetoro· joe biden· twitter· cnn· philip j. berg

19:17 Go ahead. Well, anyway, let me tell my take on it. People should go out now. If you go to the Dvorak dot org blog, they'll find this under Philip J. Berg versus Barack Hussein Obama. I think that the whole reason for this filing was to introduce all these aliases into the public consciousness. It's interesting you say that because that's the first thing that I saw in that complaint. It was like Barack Hussein Obama, aka... What are all the names, John? Do you have it there in front of you? Well, my favorite one, which I use on the blog, and I'm going to start... I think I'm going to... Unfortunately, even I get suckered into this. Let me give you the... It's a civil action, which hasn't got an official number, so this thing may...

20:01 and jury trial demanded he says which is bullshit. Anyways, Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro aka a.k.a. barry obama a.k.a. barack a dunham a.k.a. barry dunham a.k.a. and then the democratic national committee but it was so you have these names barry dunham and barry so i think that this is the isn't that done on the subject of that's the kenya the kenya gang that he supposedly represents is a done on now i don't know i don't think so i did it is not a lot yet heard about some of the obviously to you this is obvious

20:38 that this whole thing is a publicity stunt to put Obama's weird names into the public consciousness to make people doubt, you know, that he's anything but a phony. But meanwhile, of course, just within the time that this thing started to blow up, that's when he threw out Biden's name to take the media away from this, I'm convinced of it, and distract them back to something else that the media can deal with, like who's Joe Biden? Pull out the B-roll on Biden, boys! Because the timing is too screwy, there was no reason, and it was almost like a panic thing with the Biden thing because they were planning to

21:23 to like Twitter and to send text messages? Text messages to all these people who wanted to, you know, they were supposed to find out first but the media got it first and then the website got it and I don't know if the text messages were ever sent. No, I think they gave it to CNN first which of course pissed everybody off, particularly the Twitters and they had announced that they would be sending out the text message like it makes any difference on Saturday morning, so this morning I guess your time. So I think because the text message was going to be a huge massive, I guess Barack couldn't just do it himself on his Blackberry, I think they had to... It wasn't something they could work out really quick. It took a little bit of... They probably had to find the company, import the numbers or something like that. I think you're right. They needed more time to get that mass text message set up.

22:21 Right, so what was the hurry? What was the rush? Why did they have to do this so quickly? They could have done it Monday. Unless it was something to do with this Philip J. Berg thing to distract everybody, because this thing was starting to get ahead of steam amongst the right-wingers. And it's going to be, now it's going to be interesting to see if it even re- It gets any traction. Right. So again, I mean if the Hillary camp is behind this Philip J. Berg thing, as opposed to Karl Rove, which I don't believe is, even though it's got... and I think possibly the timing of it may prove that. Then Hillary again has been skunked. I mean, she has been beaten left and right every time she tries to do anything or her campaign, anything, even these, you know, kind of what you'd call a chicken shit action. She gets beat by the Barack group, which seems to be better managed.

CHAPTER 09 / 33 Discussion

Barack Obama Plane Emergency, Pitch Control, Inflatable Slide

Barack Obama's campaign plane made an emergency landing after experiencing pitch control issues caused by an inflatable slide deploying in the tail cone. While the FAA initially denied an emergency was called, leaked tapes confirmed the pilots requested crash fire rescue. The rapid release of a preliminary cause by the NTSB is noted as highly unusual compared to standard aviation investigation timelines.

barack obama· faa· ntsb· 757· md-80· emergency landing

23:20 Oh, well, no doubt their organization is slick, but that's also just a matter of money. I mean, look how much money they have. I think his airplane is actually made out of 20s. $20 bills. Could be. Did anyone ever talk about that? About his emergency landing, the emergency he had on his airplane? Did we talk about that? You know, I don't think we might have, but again, maybe it's possible that both these camps are just trying to kill each other. It certainly is feasible. Yeah, well it's a, you know, I mean Bill Clinton more than anyone knows the value of that job. Yeah, it doesn't pay but $400,000 a year, but you know, the guy goes from being just a piss poor, you know, dirt kicker to like a guy worth $100 million because he was president for eight years. I mean there's something to be said for the leverage that you have in terms of your personal finances. So it's a job you'd want to have and I think

24:23 It's definitely up there on the list of cool things to do. Let me see, be president. All the free blow you can get. So I don't know. I thought that emergency landing thing was a little peculiar. Yeah, for those of you, I think everyone who listens to the show probably knows, but Obama's plane had an emergency in flight. I've heard the FAA tapes, I played them on the Daily Source Code. And they called for an emergency. They called for a crash fire rescue, everything, and they had a problem with pitch control. And here's what I don't like, and I do have some questions out to somebody of mine. What was explained as the problem was that an emergency raft inflated in the tail cone. And when that took place, it apparently rubbed up against the control wires of... The tail? Yes. Which is a high wing, a high wing tail.

25:22 But then for some reason once they lost altitude... What plane was this? What kind of plane? I think it was a 757. It was a big plane. 757 doesn't have a high wing. 757 has a... Then what has a high wing? The high wing would be the MD-80s and the... No, it wasn't an MD-80. Well, we can find out pretty quick. Yeah, okay. Obama plane. Come on Google, show me what you're made of. Yeah, here it is. FAA acknowledges. Oh, now they're... So, at first the FAA said there was never an emergency called, but the tapes actually showed... ABC News broke that, actually. The tapes, clearly you can hear them calling for that emergency, but the whole... Back to the reason it was supposed to be because of some... Which, by the way, FAA had never releases or the NTSB never releases a report that quickly. Oh, we know what it is. It always takes weeks before you get any of that.

26:17 or months or years sometimes. So apparently with this inflated emergency slide at 27 or 32,000 feet, they had a pitch control problem but they came down to I guess about 8,000 feet and it recovered. What kind of, well that's a peculiar event in and of itself the way it's described, but the other thing is what plane except in all seven 27 or some junker from God knows when has a thing in the back, in the tail section. I mean there's no exit there. There's a couple doors back there, yeah. Okay, here it is. So, wait a minute. Those doors, those doors...

CHAPTER 10 / 33 Discussion

NTSB Investigation Speed, MD-80 Safety, CIA Assassination Methods

The NTSB's quick explanation for the Obama plane incident is criticized for lacking technical depth regarding hydraulic lines and control cables. The aircraft involved was an MD-80, the same model that recently crashed in Madrid, leading to speculation about the safety of the fleet. References are made to "Legacy of Ashes" and "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," suggesting that plane tampering is a historical method used by intelligence agencies for assassinations.

ntsb· mark rosenker· md-80· madrid crash· cia· legacy of ashes

26:59 Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just saying I'm imagining what the planes like inside. There's a couple there's one door that you mean they feel there's usually a galley back there and most of these planes and there could be a door which would be emergency exit in the back which leads to the left or the right hand side of the plane port starboard and if one of those things went off within the door structure it would either shoot out the I'm not getting it. I'm not seeing how it could get into the tail section. This is from ABC News, and I just love reading the mainstream reports because that's where you get the official word. So by the way, Barack's plane, his own plane was out for maintenance. This was a plane that, oh, it gets so much better. The Clinton campaign had actually used a week or so earlier.

27:46 So here we have Mark Rosenker of the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board, again, with any incident, any incident, never, ever have I seen them come out this quick. Even with private aviation, it takes days, weeks, and it doesn't have to be a crash, anything. So he says, An inflatable slide in the tail cone of the plane had deployed, making control of the plane tough. Yeah, that's real aviation speak, buddy. It made control of the plane tough. There are hydraulic lines back there. There are hydraulic lines back there, Rosenker says.

28:26 This is funny. There are control cables that deal with the elevators and other areas of control surfaces for the aircraft and could potentially make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to fly the aircraft. There you go. Thanks, Mr. Rosenker. I'm buying it. That says nothing. And why would it be different at higher altitude versus, you know, a lower pressure altitude where there's actually air. I mean, how... I've no... it's... No one's asking these questions, by the way, which is the most idiotic thing.

29:03 No, of course not. Why would they? Because nobody else besides the two of us and a few of our listeners would even consider the fact that anything this sleazy, at least by our thesis, would be occurring right under their noses. Before our very eyes, exactly. I'm trying to find out what plane it was. I just recall it'd be... maybe, well, you're right, it was an MD-80. Fuck, you're right, man. You are so right. Interesting, MD-80, the exact type of aircraft that crashed in Madrid. That's also a weird one. This is another fantastic example. There's absolutely zero news, no speculation, nothing about what happened. Although I do know one thing. If you have an engine failure on takeoff on an MD-80, even if your engine's on fire, you can still take off. So there must have been something else wrong.

29:57 I wonder if there's any super delegates aboard. That's horrible, John. That's horrible. A lot of innocent people and children died in that, man. That's fucked up. Yeah, I know. But if you're going to be killing people, at what point do you say, well, let's be a little circumspect with this one. And by the way, it is the CIA's favorite method of killing people. That I know. Just go read Legacy of Ashes. Man, that's how they like to kill people in planes. Yeah, that's what the guy in the confessions of an economic hitman says. Same thing, exact same thing. He says the easiest way to do it, you just, you know, especially these little planes, they go up and they can shoot out of the sky for all they anyone cares and it's like losing their safety. Absolutely. Thanks, I'm flying tomorrow. And of course your wife is concerned and all that. No, no, no, but I did send my buddy Captain Dan who flies with me, he was going on a

CHAPTER 11 / 33 Discussion

Political Ruse Theory, Clinton vs. Obama Tactics, NTSB Bias

A theory is proposed that the Obama plane emergency might have been a ruse staged by the Obama campaign to cast suspicion on the Clintons. The discussion weighs whether the Clintons or the Obama camp are the primary "bad actors" in recent political events. The NTSB official's rapid statement is questioned as potentially being influenced by political allegiances.

hillary clinton· barack obama· ntsb· bill gwatney· arkansas· political theater

30:50 on holiday to France with his family and we'd agreed a couple months ago, he said, could I have the plane and could I fly it down? I'm like, sure Dan, no problem. I'm like, this is cool, because if they're after me, then Dan can check it out, see if it works. and he returns well i don't know did you have a dole if you'll be after you wouldn't let me wouldn't be probably have operatives are because we did we have to assume that the number of factors are based on the fact that you sound like you were wearing a tinfoil hat one is that they would have to be what the the clinton's or the mobile bomb a campaign you know whoever's behind these things assuming that this theory is correct as opposed to one of the uh...

31:33 intelligence agencies which probably it would I would guess really like us to discuss this. Well that's what I think, and you know we've talked about this and that's why I'm if anything I'm more vocal about anything that I see coming up or thinking about and I'm not trying to hold anything back because that's what the you know that's the easiest way to discredit me is if I really hit on something they just say I'm a nutcase and you know and some people would hear me and believe me but the majority wouldn't so I think I'm pretty harmless and you're right it's easy you know what would you say if you can't if you can't cover it up turn it up Right. So, but anyways, I didn't know that the Obama plane was previously used by the Clintons. And then he borrowed it. That is just, so I'm leaning, because I'm still thinking, well, you know, Barack's from Chicago politics and there's a bunch of, you know, they still have a history of mobsterism and that kind of thing. But I'm kind of leaning now on your side with the Clintons.

32:31 possibly having something to do with this. I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand. You're leaning what? I'm leaning on yours. You believe the Clintons are the bad actors here. I just wanted to hear you say it, John. That's all. Oh, you wanted me to repeat myself so you could grow. Yes, I'm feeling so good. Well, I could switch. I can change my mind. Yeah, of course. So can I. It's totally allowed. Could it be the following? This whole thing with the Obama plane was all a ruse that was set up by the Obama people to make it look as if the Clintons maybe had some connection. That I think is highly likely, although that still doesn't explain the NTSB guy coming out saying this totally unsubstantiated shit. He's an Obama man. He's in Obama's pocket.

33:16 Is he really? Let's see. I don't know. This is what happens. He seems super delicate. Yeah, this is what happens. It's like you get all these ideas like Google this, Google that and then it's like, hun, dinner is now cold. Well, the funny thing about that is that we got onto this crazy line of thinking because you and I went to lunch and you, when the first guy, the guy that was executed in Arkansas or assassinated, we were sitting at lunch, it was in Fringal in San Francisco, and you had your phone with a browser on it, and right there came the, well, if the guy was a super delegate, you think, and then you immediately looked it up on Google and bingo. Super delegate.

CHAPTER 12 / 33 Discussion

Intel Wireless Power, Nikola Tesla, Microwave Satellites

Intel recently demonstrated wireless power technology capable of lighting a 60-watt bulb from three feet away with 75% efficiency. This technology is compared to Nikola Tesla's experiments from 150 years ago and 1970s proposals to beam power from satellites via microwaves. Personal anecdotes about fluorescent lights illuminating near high-power pirate radio transmitters are used to explain the science of energy absorption.

intel· wireless power· nikola tesla· microwaves· radio waves· pirate radio

33:58 super delegate dead and so then you went kind of into the you know that's when you start digging up later the you know the whole body count but then for anybody out there wants to know the genesis that that's how it started. That's really the genesis yeah but then you know just wow man it's like blown away let's switch off of this I'm tired of the Clintons here's one for you I'm sure you've seen this about Intel demonstrating wireless power yeah I love that How are they doing that? Tesla had done that 150 years ago. That's the whole story of his tower, that he was going to beam electricity to people wirelessly and it never emerged because he ran out of money or his money supply was cut off because of course the Rockefellers who had copper. I remember back in, I think it was the 70s or 80s,

34:55 where there was a plan to beam wireless power from satellites via microwaves. I love it. And you know, people didn't like the idea of being cooked on Earth while the power was on. Yeah, we got our light bulbs lit, but I'm feeling really kind of dizzy. How do they do it though? What's the science behind it? Is that the ether they're using or what people are calling the ether? You know, you can put a high energy wave out in the form of radio or whatever and it can target it and it can be absorbed by, I mean that's how a passive antenna works anyway. I mean what is it when you receive your network broadcast signal that is power. Sure, but to make a 60 watt light bulb glow, that's pretty cool from 3 feet away. Yeah, that's a lot of juice. Yeah, they did it, they say well retaining 75% of the energy they started with. So I guess they started with like 90 watts of power

35:50 I mean, I've been on ships and on pirate radio ships where you could hold up a fluorescent light tube on the deck and it would just light up because of the AM transmitter. So, you know, FM transmitters, same thing. But still, you're talking about to make even a small 6 volt bulb glow Ah man, we had to put it close up to an antenna that was pumping at least 250 watts. Yeah, I'm surprised your arm didn't fall off. Well, you can't say I'm normal now, can you? Now, now I understand it all. It's come clear now. There's some lasting effects. And the one conspiracy theory of this week that I just love is this Michael Phelps 7th medal Omega scandal.

CHAPTER 13 / 33 Discussion

Olympic Boxing Scandal, Chinese Underage Athletes, Michael Phelps

The Beijing 2008 Olympics are criticized for corruption, specifically regarding rigged matches and poor officiating in boxing. Allegations of underage Chinese gymnasts with falsified passports and biased judging in favor of Chinese athletes are discussed. The Michael Phelps seventh gold medal win is also mentioned as a potential minor scandal involving timing sponsor Omega.

olympics· beijing 2008· boxing· michael phelps· omega· gymnastics

36:39 Oh, were the guy, were there still some question whether he was first? Yeah. And that one race I think it was a butterfly, something like that? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well that's not really what's good, I mean that's a minor scandal, I think that's another cover for what's really going on, is the scandal within the boxing community. Oh really? appears to be rigged matches have poor officiating incompetence according to the American commentators who have watched 300, Obama's 300 fights and they were on last night moaning about this and they showed examples of one guy like getting Hounded and getting no points and another guy getting love tapped and getting points and another guy losing points for what the other guy was doing it was You know John I got to tell you I'm looking at right now judging scandal rocks Olympic boxing competition But it's it's more of the same thing. I think the whole Olympics is just one complete political corrupt money-grubbing scheme I thought it before all of this. I think I think they're separate now. We've got the the Chinese out

37:37 athletes who, you know, apparently some of them were like underage. Three, you know, fourteen and you know falsified passports. It makes total sense that all of this shit is just one big corrupt ball of crap. Well, I'll tell you this, there was one instance where there was this thing where you jump over the horse, you know, that the girls were doing. And the Chinese woman, who was the big favorite, who by the way, I see the Chinese and I don't want to make a generalization, but I think they're chokers. Joker they do well when there's no pressure, but when they're under a little pressure I think is because they're always worried about their family being taken out and shot right like the like the track and field guy who pulled his hamstring He was the huge celebrity right he already had all the coke endorsements and all the big All the big deals and he couldn't even do the hurdles because he pulled his hamstring right out of the gate Right so anyway this one girl comes in she does the jump you know you jump over this horse and spin us spinning and land and she fell

38:41 And she still got the bronze over an American who did a really good job. It's ludicrous. Well, hold on a second. The landing doesn't count for everything. You don't know how the judging process works. Yeah, I know how it works. You fall, you can't get bronze, damn it. That's just wrong. So anyway, the... But the thing about Phelps that I liked is that Omega's doing the timing, Omega's been sponsoring him for five years, you know, Omega talks about they have this... Did you see that site? 100thofasecond.com? Uh-uh. Oh, they've got all the links there. Here's the one you gotta hear about. Hold on. You know, this wouldn't have happened, I might add, if they had... if it was a tie and they both got the gold. He would have still gotten his gold and there would have been no grousing. Yeah, true.

CHAPTER 14 / 33 Discussion

Omega Timing Controversy, FINA Rules, Michael Phelps Wallace and Gromit

The swimming timing system provided by Omega, known as ARES, is scrutinized following Michael Phelps' close finish in the butterfly. FINA rules require a simultaneous two-hand touch in butterfly races, which some observers believe was not clearly met. Additionally, the sudden dominance of Jamaican runners is noted as suspicious, while Phelps' appearance is compared to a Wallace and Gromit claymation character.

omega· fina· michael phelps· swimming· ares· jamaican runners

39:30 I looked at that thing a million times and it looked like a tie to me. I mean, this camera underwater is like, you know, I don't see that. You have to hit it with both hands. That's the official F.I.N.A. rules. No you don't. You just touch it with the one hand. No, I think the rules actually state that in the butterf... Well, I have the rules here. Look at this site, 100thofasecond.com. I mean, they're pointing to something that looks like rules. Here, FINA official swimming rules for butterfly races state the requirement of both hands simultaneously touching the pad and that's from fina.org. So that's in the butterfly, I guess, only? Yes, which they were doing at the time. Yes, I understand that much. Okay, now let me find for you the black box quote, which is just too funny. Is this fina.org? Yeah. What do you get? Water is our world 100 years.

40:32 I don't know. We're looking at the splash page. Yeah, fina.org here. I've got... This site's really good, this 100thofasecond.com here. I'll send it to you through Skype. What they did is they took screenshots of all of these sites. Okay, so here's... This is the one that I like. This is from their own literature. Oh shit, I lost it already. How do I get to it? Are you looking at that thing? Yeah, I am.

41:08 See what it says? Did you underline that yourself? No, I did not. I'm just saying it looks like some kid, you know, with a mouse. It's done with Microsoft Paint. It's done with paint. Can't you tell? Here it is. This is from omegawatches.com. You'll love this. In 1995, Omega combined timekeeping with information technology, introducing ARES, the Automatic Recording Evaluation System, combining a black box chronograph unit that captures and prints times from sensors in the pool with a computer that can process the data and make it available to the outside world without compromising the security of the black box.

41:53 Who's their marketing guy? I don't know. It sounds like he was in the CIA or the KGB. Well, anyway, the guy is still half-fish. It doesn't matter. No, the guy's amazing. Yeah. Even though I think he looks to me, because he's got this funny smile and a big goofy smile, he looks like a character in a Nick Parks Wallace and Gromit. Think about him as a Wallace and Gromit puppet, a clay character, and you can't not laugh. Meanwhile, of course, the real news is the guy, these Jamaicans, who all of a sudden, how did this happen? Now they're the powerhouse runners. You tell me there's not some kind of something going on there? It seems a little fishy. Now, Jamaicans, you know, well, we know about the bobsled team, but they've had a lot of runners. I mean, maybe it's just their time, you know? I guess it is. There's a lot of crap going on in Jamaica. Maybe they have to run faster, run away from trouble. Could be.

CHAPTER 15 / 33 Discussion

Olympic Athlete Marketing, Field Hockey, Uniform Standards

A discussion on the sexualization of female Olympic athletes notes that many appear in magazines like FHM or wear skimpy uniforms, such as bikinis in beach volleyball or thongs in pole vaulting. The Dutch female field hockey team's gold medal win is mentioned, with a focus on the "show" aspect of the games. The disparity between men's and women's athletic attire is highlighted as a marketing tactic.

olympics· field hockey· fhm· bikinis· pole vault· marketing

42:53 So I guess but nothing else at least the Americans it looks like to be tomorrow. We're doing this recording on Saturday, so it'll be Sunday. The American basketball team at least is fun to watch. My girls won, the Dutch female hockey team. They won a gold. Field hockey? Yeah. I've been following them for years mainly because they are extremely hot. Have you noticed that by the way, that almost every hot athlete in the Olympics across the board, I've seen it in Sweden, Germany, the Netherlands, probably not the US, but they're all showing up in... Bikinis. Well, bikinis or semi-nude, you know, they're in FHM, you know, they're all showing up naked.

43:40 I mean, when I first saw this was at some games, I think it was last year, in fact, I was going to blog it, I have some pictures, because I'm watching some girl do the pole vault, and this woman had almost nothing on. She had like a thong and a skimpy top, and she's jumping over the, you know, she's doing a pole vault, and I'm thinking, what the, how did they allow this? I mean, the men aren't going out like that. Yeah, we already talked about this last week. Yeah, we talk about it all the time. Yeah, well, it's because it's the greatest show on earth, man. It's the greatest, yeah, well it's the greatest show on earth and it's rigged and it's all about the show. Done. I'm done with it. It won't be around next week, thank God. Yeah, well, I have enjoyed watching it except the corrupt part of it, the poor judging and that part. I mean, they can manage to get, you know, one thing about the boxing, they've made the assertion that we've got the best

CHAPTER 16 / 33 Discussion

Trade Show Speaking Fees, CES, New Media Expo

The economics of speaking at major trade shows like CES and the New Media Expo are criticized for being "pay-to-play" systems. Organizers often expect speakers to participate for free or even pay for the slot, while the conferences generate millions in profit. This model is seen as detrimental to independent writers and solo speakers who have no corporate backing to fund their appearances.

ces· new media expo· tim bourquin· speaking fees· pay-to-play· trade shows

44:32 people from around the world to do the judging and the best people from around the world to be the referees and they don't have the best people. They have some of the best athletes that come to this thing to make a big party out of it, but when it comes to the officiating, they're slouches. They're obviously not paying enough or it's like, well, you have to, you know, it's good for your, you know, one of those things where you want to get people to come to something because it's good for your bio. You know, this will be good for your bio, your resume, you know, so we're not going to pay you crap. It's cheap. Exactly. Think of all the goodwill you'll create. You know, you can use it as leverage. But this is what happens, by the way, in a lot of trade shows. I explain, how come you're not speaking at, people say to me always, how come you're not speaking at CES? I never speak at CES because they don't pay a nickel. Here's an operation.

45:16 Seriously, why am I... The way it works is you're supposed to pay them. That's how it works. You pay them, you get the speaking slot. Isn't that the whole system? No, actually you have to speak for free, but the point is that it's a profit-making operation. They're making millions and millions of dollars, and they're doing it off the backs of volunteers who don't get a nickel. And what really irked me about the last time I was invited, I said, well, you pay anything? No. Uh, well, can you get me, I'd have to come in a day earlier to do this, can you put me up in a room somewhere? I know you've got a bunch of rooms, you know, for the play. No, can't give you a free room. I'm thinking, well, what am I supposed to do? Screw ya.

45:58 That's exactly what happened with the... actually I did a whole thing on the source code about the new media expo which was held last weekend in Vegas. The organizer, Tim Borkwin, he's... it sounds like he wants to quit. He says, you know, I guess he can't really make it work for him. He can't make money out of it. But he does go into quite some depth about the whole pay-to-play issue. where it's really reversed. It's like if, you know, so if for some reason I wanted to do a keynote, and I'm not saying this is how it works with the New Media Expo, but with most, you know, with most conferences, you either buy a booth or you become a sponsor and then you get a speaking slot.

46:37 So it works from a corporation, but that's why you don't see many interesting solo speakers for the reasons you just mentioned. They either don't have the money, don't want to spend the money, but it's also just not kind of how it works anymore. No, I've heard about this before. In fact, you've talked about it. These are smaller conferences. I don't think anybody's buying the keynote at CES. I think that's an invitation only thing. You know what I mean. Having the big keynote, and you hear this John Chambers or Bill Gates or something, he draws a big crowd and they get to promote their products. But guys like me who are writers, I don't have a book out. There's nothing for me to promote. I would be there as an objective speaker or someone hitting a panel or on a panel.

47:18 And so I, it's like there's no benefit to me to do this for free. It's a waste of my time. You know, there's only 50 to 150 people in a typical small audience. I'm not getting the big room. You get no business out of it, I'm sure. I'm getting no business out of it. It's a complete joke. And then they're all uppity about the fact that I won't do it for free. Yeah, now I get the same thing with all these new media conferences. Hey, come and speak. They'll put me up, right? I'm like, well, I don't see what the benefit is, you know? And then we'll have your guys spend another $10,000 on sponsoring the event. It's like, ah. Yeah, well anyway, so but that's kind of you know what I'm thinking with the Olympics they must be doing pulling that cheap-ass stunt you know of saying well no it's good for your bio and they always have these things excuse me but no it'll look good on your resume you can say you spoke here. So yeah I can say I spoke there anyway because no one's gonna know one way or the other I can just put it on the resume. You can be like Joe Biden. That's right you can become vice president with that tactic.

CHAPTER 17 / 33 Discussion

UK Economy, Oil Prices, Currency Exchange Tourism

The UK economy is reportedly "shuddering to a halt" according to the Financial Times, while oil prices have begun to drop toward $60. In the US, the weak dollar has led to a surge in European tourists in cities like San Francisco, where luxury goods appear to be half-price to those using the Euro. Despite the drop in oil, there are warnings of imminent hyperinflation in the United States.

united kingdom· financial times· oil prices· us dollar· euro· hyperinflation

48:21 The UK economy shuttered to a halt, writes the Financial Times. Shuttered to a halt. It's happening, Johnny boy. Well, what's happening is we're seeing the teeter-totter effect of the price of oil falling, never going to hit 200 as some people have predicted. No, no, I've adjusted that. I've said it's going back down to 60 or 50. Right, so it's going that way and the dollar's going up, sneaking up on the same kind of like, let's move our money this way. You're a little bit behind, John, because that's not entirely true. You know, oil had a real seesaw. It dropped six bucks. No, I agree, I agree, but now it took another big dip. So I'm in San Francisco.

48:58 uh... down six dollars white down in san francisco roman around yesterday with my son uh... and he we went to h&m which you know he was confined in san francisco i've no it's kind of in some ways are also union square isn't it but i have a decision you can't really see it from any place that you normally like your amazing looked up for the issue would be taxing you can see you know she was there that's not it's weird and i i don't know i know where it is despite chance but yet yes on power anyway so But you go in there and the place is crawling with the Europeans and then I was at you know looking for some shoes because I need shoes and and I'm in the place and I went to the Cole Hawn store and checked out some stuff in there, which is like this now It's like these shoes aren't quite as expensive as they used to be but they have these Nike soles and so if you they basically there now you can't get them rehealed because they're glued soles, right and

49:55 Yeah, they're glued, you know, I'm sure, and they're comfortable, but you know, but they're plastic glue. I don't know what they're thinking. Do people still, I mean, I get my shoes reheeled, resold all the time. Do people still do that or is that, am I just really old-fashioned that way? No, no, we have two places in Berkeley. that'll do it, and there used to be one in Albany which closed. No, I do it all, I still do it. I mean, if you have like good, not just some good ass shoes, you wanna keep them comfortable. If you have a good pair of, like some Gucci's or something like that, and they're usually, especially the Italian shoes, they have a very thin sole, and so you don't get that much mileage out of them before you get a, you know, the sole gets a little hole in it, you gotta have the whole bottom replaced. It costs, it's not cheap, but the shoes are pretty expensive.

50:40 But they last forever if you keep them up. Yeah, take care of them. Anyway, so I asked the guy, he says, because I'm in there and there's a German couple roaming around looking at these expensive bags. that are, I don't know, $1000. Yeah, like $2000 bags, I know. It drives me nuts. And they're just buying them because to them everything's half price because of the dollar to euro ratio. So these people come over here and they see an expensive bag that's $500, let's say, and to them it's $250, which they can't get in their own country for less than $600.

51:16 And so they're buying left and right, they're doing all kinds of purchasing, they're going crazy actually. But that's just the exchange, John. That's just the exchange and of course that makes sense for tourism. By the way, for the euro it's not one to two. It's one and a half is what it is now. Well to me it's one to two and I'll tell you why. Because one time when I was in Europe a few years ago when the euro was 80 cents. And so now it's almost a buck sixty, so to me it's doubled. Okay, I got you. But the real problem is, the financial system is falling apart. This is no bottom we've seen, John. This is bottom. No, this shit is going down. Everything is going down even more. Including the dollar, including oil. I think we're almost officially at hyperinflation in the US.

CHAPTER 18 / 33 Discussion

Plunge Protection Team, Market Manipulation, Economic Boom Prediction

The "Plunge Protection Team," officially known as the Working Group on Financial Markets, is discussed as a mechanism for the US government to manipulate markets during a crash. The group, including the Treasury Secretary and Fed Chairman, can execute massive orders to maintain liquidity and stop market plunges. A prediction is made for a massive economic boom following the next presidential election, followed by a more severe crash.

plunge protection team· market manipulation· federal reserve· sec· treasury· liquidity

52:12 I'm telling you, we're almost at... you watch, it's about to happen. I'm predicting it here. Don't laugh at me. Don't laugh at me. I'm planning on opening up some real weird whoop-ass on you later on. Don't laugh at me about this, this is nothing. Well, it's not happening the way you described it. We're at the bottom. The thing is bouncing. It's like dragging its ass along the rocks. So you're saying the dollar is at bottom now. This is where it's going to stay. It's not going to go down any lower. It's going to go up. Okay, we'll see oils going down dollars going up. We're gonna be having as soon as the next president gets elected is gonna be a boom Massive boom everyone that's gonna be all jacked up. They're gonna be going crazy And then you'll have the real crash and then you'll wonder what happened. Okay, so it's imminent We're just gonna have an interim bump of all kinds of craziness Which is which which have you heard this thing called the plunge protection team? No

53:16 This is interesting. I like the name of it. Yeah, this is, I read this, it has a different name, but it's known as the, let me see, Ron Ball was talking about it. The Plunge Protection Team is apparently, it's a group of, here we go, Wikipedia, I'll just read it, well, Washington Post, hold on, let me get it from Washington Post, makes me feel better. They actually, Plunge Protection Team. Well, okay, so the idea is that there's a group of individuals who are brought in and

53:53 and when the markets are about to plunge, because you can manipulate markets as long as you have enough money and you can keep liquidity going quick enough, you can keep trading stuff back and forth, it's all about the volume and the activity and liquidity of whatever it is you're trading. That's really how markets work. And so the president can call in, here it is, the Working Group on Financial Matters, otherwise known as the Plunge Protection Team. That includes the Secretary of the Treasury, Chairman of the Fed, Securities and Exchange Commission, Commodity Futures Trading Commission. And they will then start to place and execute orders of huge magnitude, of billions, which is intended to stop the plunge. I can't believe you never heard of this.

54:42 Well, I haven't. It sounds like a fiasco waiting to happen. Well, of course it is. It always ends in tears when you do stuff like that, but it sounds to me like they've... I've heard from, you know, read in different reports that this has actually been the Plunge Protection Team has been called in and they're already working their stuff. Now I have to look into this for further discussion. Please do, because I value your analysis on that. No you don't. Yes I do. I look forward to this chat every Saturday. It's okay that sometimes I'm talking and you're just tapping away, writing your next fucking novel on your computer, not listening to what I have to say. I'm sorry, what was that again? Never mind. I get lots of complaints. I get complaints that when I'm talking you're doing your admin.

55:35 I'm not on that machine, I'm not on the writing machine. If you hear me tapping it's because I'm looking something up for the purposes of debate. Anyway, I thought that was interesting. Yeah, that is interesting. The plunge protection. What a plunge. What kind of a term is that? You know, plunge usually refers to a public swimming pool in a small town. I've been watching throughout the week, every evening around 8 o'clock I'll watch, no even later than that I guess, the closing bell on CNBC, you know watch a little bit of Fox News and the CNBC stuff is just, every analyst, every guy, they're all saying the same thing.

CHAPTER 19 / 33 Discussion

Jim Cramer CNBC Outburst, Market Integrity, Mickey Mouse Voice

CNBC host Jim Cramer recently advised investors to get out of the market, calling the situation with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac a "rip-off" and an "inside job." His emotional delivery and high-pitched voice are mocked, with comparisons made to Mickey Mouse. Despite his entertainment value, his market predictions are characterized as being no more accurate than average.

jim cramer· cnbc· fannie mae· freddie mac· market predictions

56:25 It's hard to tell. Can't quite see where we're at right now. Well, they had, there's a thing, if we have it on the blog again, Jim Kramer. I saw that live, that was on CNBC. I saw him sitting there saying, you know, everyone just get out of the market. You shouldn't trade Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. It's a ripoff. He says it's rigged. Yeah, he said it's, almost literally said it's an inside job. He says, you gotta be crazy. And it's funny because Patricia's sitting there, because she's never seen Jim Cramer. And she's sitting there going like, is this guy for real? Unfortunately, he's actually quite for real. And he really means what he said. He talks like an idiot. Yeah, that's kind of his whole show. You should see his show. Well, no, you know, he, he, I think the, you know, what I, why she thinks he talks like an idiot is because at various moments when he gets emotional, he actually

57:23 exudes the Mickey Mouse voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's high pitched. He does, he does, he does. I know she's fucking goofy. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So, um, and it's because there was a moment within the thing that says, man, he sounds just like Mickey Mouse with this, with his high, he needs to get some testosterone supplements or something to get his voice down a little bit. It's too high pitch. I'm surprised. It must be. I mean, I think dogs, you know, miles away are turning their heads when he's in. Okay, no reason to get mean on Mr. Kramer. Yeah, he's a good entertainer. I mean, there's a couple guys who track his predictions, you know, buy this, sell that, buy this, sell that. And he's just right in the middle. He's no better than anybody else. He's actually no better than us. If we were in the middle of all of that action, we'd have a similar type show. Yeah, and it would be the same series of good picks and bad.

CHAPTER 20 / 33 Discussion

World Trade Center 7, NIST Report, Pulse Energy Weapons

The official explanation for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is challenged, with claims that the building was destroyed to eliminate sensitive documents related to Enron and the SEC. A theory is proposed that a "pulse energy weapon" was used on all three towers, rather than traditional explosives. The discussion references Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comment and the idea that the buildings were rigged during prior retrofitting.

wtc 7· nist· larry silverstein· enron· pulse energy weapon· 9/11 truthers

58:21 But of course the big news, I'm so happy that our government has shown us once and for all, and have solved for us the mystery of World Trade Center 7 collapsing. That was pretty amazing. Yeah, I was surprised that they just didn't let the thing fester. I mean, they came out with a statement that it was the fire. The place was on fire. And so then, out of the blue, it collapses like it was... Oh, hold on a second. No, no, it didn't collapse in free fall. It was only at 47% of free fall. Is that what they said? Yeah. Listen, let me tell you how this went down, okay? So I'll just tell you once and for all, and then we can be done with this.

59:08 First of all the whole reason why is because of the Enron documents contained in that building Secret Service SEC there's a lot of shit that had to go away. It had to be burned it had to be disintegrated That's why okay, and there's lots more reasons behind that now there was no time I I I got to tell you of it both for for all three towers now and I'm gonna tell you that there wasn't even time for them to put explosives in, even though Larry Silverstein, owner of the building, said we should pull the building. This was clearly, clearly a pulse energy weapon.

59:44 No! God! Clearly, in all three cases, obviously a combination of whatever it was, there was some pulverizing force of some weapon that we have not been exposed to. There's just no other explanation for all of this. Well, there is actually, I think. We're going to take the side of the truthers, which I love that term by the way, because it just sounds nutty. I am a truther. Yeah, it's good. It's good. So there was one video that was done early on when the truther started to emerge that we actually blog this too. It's on there somewhere. The problem is with my blog, it's got so many posts now, it's been going for four years that you can't find anything. Right, the search is almost ineffective. The search doesn't work. But anyway, some guys said that they had closed these buildings, including the big ones,

1:00:38 for some sort of retrofitting. Oh yeah, I've heard all this. And then they loaded them up with the with the bomb crap to blow them up. Yeah, and it was a Bin Laden company that did that by the way. It was what? A Bin Laden construction company that did all that. Well, I didn't get that part of it, but whatever the case was, it seems to me that somebody at some point would spill the beans on this because it's not one guy doing it, obviously, it's a whole team of people and that they would come out of the woodwork unless they've been assassinated or they're in some other country or they're hiding out. I mean, if it was me that had

CHAPTER 21 / 33 Discussion

9/11 Truther Videos, Media Manipulation, BBC Premature Reporting

The 9/11 Truth movement's use of high-quality video analysis to show alleged manipulation of tower collapse footage is discussed. Specific mention is made of the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 forty minutes before it actually fell. Truthers are described as a dedicated underground group distributing DVDs to expose what they believe is a government cover-up.

9/11 truthers· bbc· bill giltner· video manipulation· photoshop· building 7

1:01:17 been involved with rigging that building 7 to blow up, I would be scared. Of course, of course. Particularly if you're a super delegate. Exactly, if you're a super delegate. But that's why I'm telling you, pulse energy weapon, John. Pulse energy weapon. Somebody would have been knocked on their ass. You know, I've seen recent truther videos and they're getting better. The quality is getting better and I love watching it. Those truther videos are great. By the way, for people out there, you'll see these truthers, they're all over the place with these signs.

1:01:57 And they like to talk and many of them have copies of the discs which they freely distribute. They don't cost anything. You ask them if they have a DVD and they want you to copy and give it to your friends. And I have a couple or two or three I think. And you know some of them are better than others but they, you know, they're just, it's a very weird underground Well, it's not that, first of all, it's not that under, see, I just want to state that for me it doesn't matter because, you know, that was so long ago that, you know, there's a lot more shit that's, that I'm interested in what's happening, you know, that we got to be on the lookout for. But that for me was the awakening, like, okay, this stinks, you know, no matter what happened. But I'm seeing videos and I love these, Bill Giltner is a guy who posts a lot of stuff,

1:02:40 on drop.io slash daily source code and put stuff in the comments also on no agenda I think he put some comments and they're showing proof how the video of the towers was manipulated and you see like you know how you see a Photoshop where you'll see you know the smoke copy and pasted three times if you just have any random Photoshop job so he's showing how this was done in video I'm just saying, it's very interesting to watch. And then there's the whole thing that the BBC announced that the Building 7 had collapsed, you know, like 40 minutes before it actually collapsed. That's just misreporting. The... Pulse energy weapon. I'm reminding... The same thing they used in Oklahoma City. Pulse energy weapon.

CHAPTER 22 / 33 Discussion

Nibiru, Water Crystals, Pleiadian Extraterrestrials

An upcoming meeting with a person claiming to be a Pleiadian extraterrestrial is announced, facilitated by the Dutch alternative news site Nibiru.nl. The discussion touches on theories regarding the 2012 apocalypse, the "Age of Aquarius," and experiments with water crystals that supposedly respond to human emotions like love. The goal of the meeting is to find concrete evidence for these spiritual and extraterrestrial claims.

nibiru.nl· ufo· water crystals· pleiadians· 2012· age of aquarius

1:03:37 Yeah, well that's an interesting theory. That's about as crazy as anything you've brought up ever. No, no, no, I think my meeting with the Pleiadian tomorrow, that's going to be even bigger, even nuttier. Your what? My meeting with the extraterrestrial tomorrow. Oh, right. I'm coming out, I'm telling you. You finally, you've exposed your, okay, now you have to tell the public what you're talking about. Okay, yeah. Alright, so I've been working on this for a couple months. I've been in touch with a group in the Netherlands. They have a pretty cool website, niburu.nl, N-I-B-U-R-U dot N-L.

1:04:14 It's in Dutch, but they link... basically they're an alternative news service. But the guy who started this in 2002, he started as the UFO... what do you call it? I know the Dutch word. Well, if you... you know, the main UFO reporting place in the Netherlands. And he was really more into aviation and UFOs and stuff like that, but then he got wrapped up in a whole bunch of other stuff anyway. So, and I could tell you, I could talk to you for hours about the theories and, you know, or not, they don't consider them theories, what they actually believe is taking place. And so, you know, I had him on the radio show, in the Dutch radio show, an interesting guy, he's 58, he's, you know, he's had several different careers and he's been doing this for the past six or seven.

1:05:06 doesn't make much money off of it. But at a certain point I said, this is really interesting. I'm open to all kinds of theories. I'll listen to everything and anything. There's a lot of things that go into these 2012, the UFOs, You know water crystals you name it all that stuff is is is I'm interested in all of it There's a lot of it that water crystal. What is water crystals? It's the guy who's been doing this guy's been doing experiments for a long time where you can analyze the crystallization of water and it responds differently to different inputs

1:05:46 So one of the experiments they do is they just hang a sign, they take two identical bottles of water, same water source, hang a sign on one that says love and then hang a sign on the other one that will say, you know, car or something else, something irrelevant. And you'll see that there's, that when they look at the crystallization of that water, it's very, actually the one with the kind of the bogus label will have, you know, a very unstructured crystal. formation, but the one that had the label love on it has a very structured, very beautiful crystal. You know what, Bubba Martin will find the link for that and he'll put that into the show notes at noagenda.mevo.com. So anyway, I said, you know, so I want to meet one of these Pleiadians, I think is how you pronounce it.

CHAPTER 23 / 33 Discussion

Ascension to Fifth Dimension, UFO Sightings, Harper's 2012 Marketing

The theory of Earth's ascension to the fifth dimension is explored, suggesting that extraterrestrials are bypassing world leaders to communicate directly with the public. A marketing idea is proposed for a club in Guilford called "Harper's 2012," which would feature a landing spot for UFOs to capitalize on the desperation for good news in a failing economy. The host plans to report on the results of the Pleiadian encounter in the following week.

ascension· fifth dimension· ufo· chakras· guilford· marketing

1:06:45 We're assuming that these UFO people, they've categorized these aliens as, these Pleiadians as one and then there's the greys, right? Yeah, there's like 57 different varieties. And the only question I am going to ask when I meet this Pleiadian... Well let's back up, you're gonna get to meet somebody who claims to be one of these guys? Yes, tomorrow. Tomorrow? And you know, and look, I said, look, you know, you guys have this whole story, you want to, you know, that we have the ascension to the fifth dimension, we're at the dawning of the age of Aquarius, the Earth is changing, now they've bypassed our leaders who have held them away for 70 years, and now they're coming directly to us, hence the increased activity in UFO sightings.

1:07:33 uh... and uh... so they're trying to get the word out and wake people up and you know that they consider no difference really between waking people up to say look at what your government is doing look at the but the prison you actually live in verses uh... here comes salvation is all kind of it's it's like religion it's all kind of the same thing but i'm looking for something pretty concrete you know before i buy into the story and help you guys uh... promote your agenda promote the agenda yeah I know I think I deserve a little bit of help here because I've I've been open I've tried to raise my the frequencies of my body and chakras and I don't see no fucking ships yet so let me meet this guy and and I'll get a real good sense of what I think or this yeah so you'll be reporting next week or you'll be reporting on daily source code I'm sure before you talk to me I haven't actually talked about this on daily source code I wanted to keep this kind of our thing

1:08:28 Because I think it's much better for you to be sitting there guffawing, laughing, whistling, typing on your keyboard and generally just telling me I'm an idiot. I never said you're an idiot. No, no, no. Kooky perhaps. Because that way then there's kind of balance. There's a balance in the information and people can take it either way. And I'll, you know... I think it's important. You probably have your fans that think I'm some sort of a stiff. No, not at all. And I have my fans who think you're a kook. Really? That's funny because all my peeps, all my fans love you. Well, they probably only because I keep you from going off the true deep end. Well, I figured I've kind of made a decision. I might as well just go all out until 2012. I got nothing to lose, right? I might just might as well go completely nutty and see where we wind up. It'll be entertaining at least. There's nothing to lose. Well, you said your sanity, but... No, I'm not going to lose my sanity.

1:09:25 Well, I don't know how many of the, I mean, but the term, by the way, I do like this British term for this type of thing, which is nutter. He's a nutter. Yeah. But I mean, I'm sure that there's a number of people that listen to us and they probably just think, well, at least Adams, you know, at least he's more open minded than Dvorak. Well, but it's important. And I know that you're also playing the other side specifically because it's important. It's important for the story. But I'll tell you that people are so desperate here in the UK, and these are people who are doing okay for themselves, but you know they have restaurants or they have other places that are very dependent upon people's cash in hand in the economy. And they know that I'm a nutter. Oh, is that a Yankee's a nutter? Oh, what's he got up his sleeve today? Fighting the reptiles are you Adam?

1:10:15 But when I tell them these stories, they're so desperate for any good news that they'll listen. Like, here man, have another cappuccino, tell me some more. Are they coming? I've convinced one guy that he has this parking lot, he has a club, Michelle Harper, he's got this place called Harper's, it's a huge club in town, I mean he tried to get a casino license for it and he's been battling council forever. So he wants to get this parking lot behind his place and I said, dude, here's what we do, we call it Harper's 2012 and we make a big fucking landing spot in this parking lot.

1:10:53 And we just market that and promote it. And who knows? They might actually come. Now that is actually one genius marketing idea. And that's what he picked up on. He said, that's fucking great. He says, Curry, you're nuts. But I think he's going to do it. Yeah, well, most bars and restaurants are going to last to 2012, even if nothing happens in 2012, which will be the situation. But anyway, by the way, I finally got my copy of Legacy of Ashes, which is the book that you've been demanding I read. Have you started? Have you finished? Oh God, this thing's huge. I told you, and you gotta concentrate. It's not like just read it on the plane. You gotta like sit there and think about a lot of stuff. Yes, but you can also read it like you can much non-fiction, which is you can just pick it up like a Bible and just open it up and read these hilarious

CHAPTER 24 / 33 Discussion

Legacy of Ashes, CIA History, Pipeline Sabotage

The book "Legacy of Ashes" by Tim Weiner is reviewed as a definitive and often humorous history of the CIA's failures and practical jokes. One anecdote describes the CIA sabotaging a Russian pipeline by providing a faulty controller through a Canadian front company, causing the pipeline to explode. The book is characterized as a juvenile but sad account of 50 years of ineffective and violent global interference.

legacy of ashes· cia· oss· tim weiner· canada· pipeline

1:11:45 anecdotes about, you know, one thing or another. And they're just, it's just a, it's actually a very funny book. I knew you'd like it, man. I knew you'd like it. There's the one where they, they got, you know, it's just, I mean, it's like, you know, somebody gets a, you know, the Russians need to put some controls into a pipeline so they have to buy some. controller from the we won't sell it to them to keep the pipeline working and so they go to Canada but apparently it's a spook company that you know we had something to do with and so they give him a controller that keeps the pipeline filled with oil pumping and then it slowly ratchets it up to pressure blows the thing to smithereens when it's too much oil. It's just hilarious. You sit there you go like we're a bunch of infantile freaking idiots

1:12:28 We've been playing this fricking game with the world for 50, 60 years and it's dumb. The result is always the same. It's a lot of practical jokes. Yeah, but you'll read about the fluoride, you'll read about the coke, the drug running, you're gonna read all the stuff that you've read in the news that you were partial to just by being exposed to some of the story. Remember, my uncle who was there at almost inception when they went from OSS to CIA, he says, Adam, it's all true. It's all true. Almost, unfortunately for him, a lot, you know, some of the things there that he was involved with are true as well, including sending hundreds of North Vietnamese boys to their certain death without him knowing that that's what was happening. But it's all true. Yeah, well, I mean, I would assume that it's

1:13:19 It sounds true. I mean, it reads like it's true. It's a really good document. But there's this humor. that is coming there's also this kind of a sadness because they conclusion of the book first in my son does he finally has a book that everyone should recall how to read a book and I think it's a very classic I think I thought was fabulous but anyway it's a he first thing he does is goes and looks for the looks at the conclusion and and you know reveals that of course which is that you know that there's the whole thing is a spoiler alert spoiler alert yeah the whole thing is what Ineffective, I mean the whole mechanism. It's all stupid, right? It's completely dumb. It's funny. It's a good book. If you want to know what the United States is all about, that's your book. Well, it's anyway, there is a juvenile aspect to it. And you know, killing people left and right, that's probably not necessarily a positive thing to be involved with. No, it's not. In small planes.

CHAPTER 25 / 33 Discussion

UK Reality TV Policing, Obese Child Seizures, Canadian Cops

UK reality television shows depicting aggressive police tactics against "Johns" are criticized for violating decency and lacking Miranda-style protections. A new policy in Guilford allows the government to remove obese children from their homes and place them in child protective services, citing neglect. This is compared to the Canadian show "Protect and Defend," which mostly featured Mounties rousting drunks.

united kingdom· reality tv· child protective services· obesity· canada· miranda rights

1:14:22 So what else we got? What is going on over there besides you say the economy came to a halt? A grinding halt they say. Well it's gotten really bad John, it really has. People are just, people are so numbed and terrorized here. I was watching a show last night on TV and this is one of these very typical shows that you've seen them in the States. It's like a COPS, it's a reality-based show. And that they do is they go on stakeout and then they wait for guys to drive up and try to pick up hookers who are walking on the street. And then they bust them, right? This is our law enforcement at work. So they have a version of this show which is, and it's like crime watch or crime scene or something.

1:15:08 You know, they've got a host in the studio. But just, you know, there's a difference when the cops in the States have a certain protocol that at least on television they pretend to follow, right? But here, these guys, you know, they immediately jump up to your car, they rip open your door, they pull the keys out, they're not uniform, they don't show any identification, and then they start to, like, lecture you and tell you that you're a horrible person It was just like, and you could see these guys, you know, poor guys just trying to get a wank on a Saturday night. And then they go right to the girls and they're laughing and then the girls go free. And then they just wait until someone solicits them again and then they get the Johns. It's crazy.

1:15:54 It's absolutely fucking crazy. But the violation of all decency and I guess there's no Miranda laws, there's no search warrant laws, I guess there's none of that here. Well that's why we left that group of people. They have this tendency to go crazy like this. Yeah, yeah for sure man. And now the council representatives, so that's like the guys who run Guilford, okay? It's not like huge governmental shimmy, yeah the government but for the council which is probably like like a PTA meeting they all got together and they've decided that they are now going to remove children and to put them into child protective services if they're obese.

1:16:38 Which is just, it's an outrage. That is an outrage, it's unbelievable. You know, and by saying, it's almost worse to be feeding your child inappropriately than not feeding them at all. So now they can take them away and put them into child protective services. Well I gotta blog that, that's a beauty. You gotta send me a link to that one. Yeah, it's in the Times, man. I'll send it to you right now. And then they go on to justify all of this. That's the one that really got me. They talk about how they've had to order new ambulances because people are too fat. Too fat. Too fat. And crematoriums, they have to build bigger ovens.

1:17:26 Oh man, I love it, I love it. Well you know the Canadians have a version or they've had it, I don't know if they, I haven't seen it for years, but they had a version of cops in Canada. But the Canadian version was just so boring because it was essentially, if you watch it, it was called, and the name of the show was Protect and Defend. Mounties. And it was nothing but, and most of it took place in either Vancouver or one of these you know, western provinces. And the, uh, is essentially guys rousting drunks that were passed out in the alley. Yeah. You know, they poke them with the baton and say, hey, hey, get up, hey, get up, hey, hey, get up, get up, boom, boom. Maybe we were talking about, uh, about how, you know, the psychopaths seem to be running the country.

CHAPTER 26 / 33 Discussion

Gary Glitter Scandal, Pedophile Networks, News of the World

Glam rocker Gary Glitter's return to Britain following his imprisonment in Vietnam for child sex offenses is discussed as a potential media smokescreen. The intense public scorn directed at Glitter is contrasted with the lack of investigation into high-level pedophile networks involving bankers and police chiefs. The News of the World, a Murdoch-owned tabloid, is noted for its role in exposing and sensationalizing the Glitter scandal.

gary glitter· news of the world· vietnam· pedophilia· madeline mccann· murdoch

1:18:16 And I'm so convinced that these pedophile networks are rampant throughout the justice system. So you probably haven't, maybe you saw a little blurb about this in the States, but it's been front page, top of the news here. Gary Glitter, have you heard about this? You know who Gary Glitter is? I've heard his name, but now you're gonna have to bring me up to speed. I don't know any of this. All right Gary Glitter was in the 70s He was the quintessential glam rocker and he had this huge hit a number of hits But his biggest hit worldwide was I want Do you want to touch me or I want to touch you when I'll get to it. Hold on. Um Anyway, so he was convicted of

1:18:58 A couple years ago, they found inappropriate pictures on his computer, one of those deals where he took it to get it repaired and then the repair guy finds all these pictures. Right? Which I'm always suspicious of anyway. So, um, you know, he got busted for having underage porn on his computer. And then he left the country, because he said he was framed for that. That's irrelevant. He said he was framed for that and he didn't want to register with a sex offenders register. So he said, I'm leaving. So he left for Vietnam.

1:19:36 I think it's Vietnam, yeah. Or Cambojo, maybe both. But then essentially, the News of the World, which is the huge, very, like 9 million people a week read, or per issue, which is a weekly, read the News of the World. It's a Murdoch thing, owned by Murdoch. Same company that owns The Sun. and uh... as they went to wherever he was staying in the other photograph to him with like you know uh... like a fourteen-year-old girl on the back of his motorcycle and you know so they they basically got into this huge huge scandal over there and then they paid off uh... some witnesses to uh... to either talk or not talk whatever he went to jail okay he went to jail for a significant amount of time i think a year and a half maybe and so now he's out

1:20:27 and uh... and he's come back to britain but just the of the amount of attention and the amount of scorn thrown at this guy, you know, it just to me, it ekes everything of... you know, because if you look at all the stuff they don't investigate, like the links I've sent you in the past that just aren't investigated, those people that are listed, and we're talking big bankers, we're talking police chiefs, justice chiefs, you know, all kinds of people involved across Europe, which I'm convinced, you know, Madeline McCann, you know, same thing, ordering kids really on demand.

1:21:09 And they do now I think this is just like a huge thing to say yeah, we're really big on You know on this kind of stuff, and he were we're nailing this guy to the stake Just feels all wrong you know and and obviously you know if the guy did it he did it if he's convicted I guess he was guilty, but it just feels so wrong to me It feels like there's a lot of shit going on that is smoke screen big-time smoke screen. That's really my feeling Yeah, have you have you googled Gary glitter by now? I'm sure you have Actually, I was looking at that fat kids thing. Oh, isn't that just freaky? It's unbelievable. Families guilty of neglect. Obviously, somebody too much food neglect. I'm not getting that. Or the wrong food. Of course, you can't buy healthy food anymore. And television, there's no commercial going.

CHAPTER 27 / 33 Discussion

Lisbon Treaty, Human Rights Exceptions, Homeschooling Bans

The Lisbon Treaty and its associated human rights convention are criticized for containing exceptions that allow the state to incarcerate "unstable" individuals and remove children for improper education. These measures are viewed as a shift toward fascism, with parallels drawn to attempts in California to ban homeschooling. The goal of state-run education is characterized as keeping the population "dumb" and compliant.

lisbon treaty· ireland· human rights· homeschooling· california· fascism

1:21:58 Make some healthy food tonight. No, it's all I'm loving it. Have another McNugget. No, that's Jimmy. Yeah, who's yeah, right, right? Let's get to the source of the problem responsible for this which is that crappy food, you know the food supply being toxic Rather than just you know, well, you're eating too much of the toxic food, but John I'm telling you this, you know something went wrong This is the Lisbon Treaty because I've read this thing in the Lisbon Treaty one of the big problems I have about the about the human rights convention that is attached to the Lisbon Treaty which was not ratified or has not yet been put into effect because Ireland said no but almost every other country except interestingly I think Poland has not ratified it. Yeah but not by public vote. Well no it won't be but but the you know the poll and some other guy I can't remember anyway so there are a couple countries still holding out but it was supposed to be ratified but in that human rights document it literally says

1:22:55 that you know under the right to freedom yes got the right to freedom but here couple of exceptions by the way if you're a hobo if you are a drunk a drug addict or mentally unstable they can incarcerate you if this gets passed and gets put into law and it literally states the government will have the right to remove your children if you are not educating them properly And I think that they just popped this one a little too soon. You know, oh shit, the Lisbon Treaty was supposed to be enforced by now. But they're just acting like it is. How can this be? How can you ever have the right, how can the government ever have the right just because your kid is fat, or even obese is an illness, you know? It can be a behavioral illness, there's a lot going on there. But taking the kid away, putting it into protective service doesn't sound like a solution.

1:23:46 Fucking no, it's pretty it's pretty it's ridiculous. Let's just cut to the chase Yeah, yeah, but I think we're gonna be seeing this shit happening in the States, too Well, they kind of did that. You know, there's a controversy going on in the US after they grabbed all those kids from the guy in Texas. It was a Mormon cult. By the way, the irony of this is a report that came out recently. I don't know if we blogged this one or not, but it turns out that being polyamorous, in other words, having multiple wives, is healthier for you, you live longer. I've been telling my wife that for years. She's just not buying it.

1:24:25 Most of the women don't seem to go for it. But anyway, so they took all these kids and then it turns out because they were being abused and then the courts found that they weren't being abused, there was nothing going on, there was no sex with the kids or any of this stuff. But then the protective services people in Texas said, no. We're gonna keep them anyway. I know I know the judge says no you're not you're giving them back, and then he said no We're not giving him back. I don't care what the court say and so now there's this weird battle going on between these creeps from the you know protective custody these maniacs what is going on and the public at large is weird what is going on only the right wingers by the way I have to give them credit on this one we're on this the regular media were you know including people you know that were just a regular media has not picked up on this bad thing they think it's okay there you know there is a there still there is a socialistic

1:25:22 undercurrent within these societies, even though it's fascistic in the way, the form it takes, to really let the government do all this stuff. You have to be able to, you know, we want the government to teach the kids. We don't want homeschooling. They tried to do that in California. And of course, all these homeschoolers, there were already too many of them. Then they, you know, they essentially, they had to back off on that. But you know what they're trying to do? I know, for example- Yeah, they're trying to make us, make your kids dumb. Put them in a dumb school with dumb curriculum, with dumb teaching. Yeah, exactly. Keep you freaking dumb! And here's the history, kids. Here's how it works. He cut down the cherry tree. These books have to go through committees so everybody with a special interest can approve it. Oh no, no, that's not good. You can't say that about the Spanish.

CHAPTER 28 / 33 Discussion

Public School Skepticism, Roots Miniseries, Amos and Andy

A discussion on the failures of the public school system highlights the high level of skepticism among modern students toward "dumbed down" curricula. The 1970s miniseries "Roots" is cited as a program that likely could not air today due to modern political correctness regarding historical language. Additionally, Bill Cosby's efforts to destroy "Amos and Andy" radio broadcasts are criticized as an attempt to erase history.

public school· roots· alex haley· bill cosby· amos and andy· political correctness

1:26:09 Yeah, exactly. And this is a girl who does some production work for me. She grew up in Germany. And I can't retell it, but she told me the way that she was taught how World War II happened. And how she was taught in Germany in grade school. A little different, I might add. Just a little. Well, apparently the Japanese have a real skewed interpretation. So there you go, the thugs are all like educating our kids with crap, or at least unbalanced. Yeah, it's totally unbalanced. We're supposed to be teaching our kids how to think. Let me tell you, my daughter, she was on to this. She was so on to this. She said, I want to go to public school when we move to here. She's been to a mix of private schools and public schools. She's like, I really want to go to public school when we move to the UK. And Guilford is a pretty affluent place.

1:27:03 First of all, it's just a mess. The whole school, the schooling system is a mess. The headmaster has no authority, can't do anything, won't do anything. But then she comes home and she says, Dad, they're teaching me shit. It's absolute dumb. These kids are... And that's a big problem I think of what we're seeing today. And you must be seeing it with your kids. I don't know if they're in private or public school, but they're just not buying it. Oh yeah, the skepticism level is extremely high with my kids. Yeah, see, good. That's good. Bless them. These are son children. In fact, my son, who's about to graduate from Evergreen, which is kind of a left-wing school, which turns out not to be developing left-wing thinkers. They tend to be very conservative. Oh, you mean Kami U. Kami University. He's gotten into reading, what he talks about is forbidden texts.

1:27:53 there's a lot of older books and references that have all kinds of built-in weird biases and stuff but there's like a lot of good information in there but they won't let anyone read this stuff because you know they refer to you know there'd be some racist kind of angle to it because it was written in 1880. It was so funny I was talking with Patricia about this yesterday, I said do you think that, do you remember when the miniseries Roots came on television? Yeah. Alex Haley is it? Alex Haley's Roots? And I was thinking, that would never air on regular broadcast television ever today by today's politically correct standards. That's an interesting question. Because I was given an example of how enslaved we are and I said, what's the difference between this, my example, and Toby B. Goody Nigga Massa? Which is exactly the language that they used in that movie. I remember watching it.

1:28:49 on television and you know being shocked at the history and what was happening but not being shocked by the language and I said I bet you that could not air on broadcast television today that's how far we've come with restrictive speech when it comes to history history my god well then there's also the other things that are kind of unique situations and I think one example is the attempt by Bill Cosby to buy up every copy you can find of every Amos and Andy radio broadcast done in the 40s and destroy them. But that's so wrong! I mean, whether something's racist or not, you shouldn't try to destroy history that way. You know, and you wonder... Bill, just go erase something on Wikipedia, man, it'll make you feel better. But don't try to do that!

1:29:44 I'm sorry. Anyway, it's just a situation is intolerable. But I think and the problem is there's not enough free thinkers out there. Most people won't think for themselves. They just assume that somebody tell them what to do. And then, you know, if you happen to be if they happen to be on the jury when you are trumped up case comes to pass and you've been frame so they can get you out of the picture and they put you up there these the jurors are gonna find you guilty because the This guy said you did it. Yeah, there'll be no thought whatsoever Holy crap what we're going to hell in a handbasket We already There's another phrase we need to revitalize. It's a good one. What does it mean hell in a handbasket? I don't know

CHAPTER 29 / 33 Discussion

Language Revitalization, Hell in a Handbasket, Wreck of the Hesperus

Efforts to revitalize archaic phrases like "cripes" and "hell in a handbasket" are discussed, with the latter potentially originating from the use of baskets to catch heads at the guillotine. Another phrase, "the wreck of the Hesperus," is traced back to a famous shipwreck that became a shorthand for a messy room. The goal is to create a canonical list of these older epithets to use as modern memes.

etymology· hell in a handbasket· wreck of the hesperus· cripes· memes

1:30:36 I have this thing, I have the logo for it already. I haven't started implementing it, but I wanted to start doing some stuff on my blog to bring back, because we've done this with the phrase cripes. To bring back some of these older, these things that people used to say, you know, they were epithets or they were cover up for, you know, they didn't want to cuss. And so they made these, I mean, cripes is, We believe it probably came from the word Christ, but it was not offensive.

1:31:13 But it's such a funny term to see in print. And so we've been using it as a theme phrase. And I'm starting to see it picked up here and there as a meme. Going to hell in a hand basket, according to Wikipedia, or going to hell in a hand cart is an English alternative phrase of unclear origin describing something or situation... Then how can it be an alternative? Yeah, what's Wikipedia, dude? There's similar phrases going back over 400 years such as to heaven in a wheelbarrow. Oh, that may be the alternative. So it was to go you're going to heaven in a wheelbarrow. You're going to hell in a handbasket. Oh, perhaps mocking a reference to the guillotine. That would make sense. You're going to hell in a handbasket. There you go. Because your head would be in the basket. Oh, that's good. That makes sense. Now I'm liking it even more.

1:32:07 We're going to hell in a handbasket, John. Your head and mine. And a third one for my ego. So anyway, there's a bunch of these phrases out there that, a lot of them can't be revitalized. I mean, the one that we bring up once in a while is, you know, my mother used to say this all the time. She'd come into my room when I was a little kid and she'd go, oh, your room's a mess. It looks like the wreck of the Hesperus. Ooh, that's a good one. And so that was around, I'm thinking the wreck of the Hesperus. Why is she even saying this? Was that a shipwreck or something? Well, I was either Wikipedia or one of these things. It was a few years ago. I'm digging around and I go to this thing and there's a photo. I guess it was this boat wrecked. And there was a photo of the, which I guess was in all the newspapers back in the 20s or 30s or whenever the wreck of the Hesperus took place. And you look at it and you go, oh my God, it is the biggest mess you can imagine. So and then I understood it all. You know, it all became clear. Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense.

1:33:09 Anyway, but I'm gonna start development see if we can get a kind of a canonical listing of all these older kind of things people used to say I'm trying to stay away from the ones from the 60s that I want groovy coming back or oh wow or bummer and people still say that Talk about this we talked about blood on the moon and we talked about that one. No, no, that's that's that's a big one in my family and Adam Curry. Oh yeah, maybe we did. Adam Clark Curry. If you do that, there's gonna be blood on the moon. Well, you also have the other one that your mom puts it... What was the one I said one way into? That's a bunch of... No, it was a derivative of... It was a crock of crap, I think. No, that's a... It'll come out automatically when I need to say it. I don't know what it is now. What a bunch of crock, that's what it is. What a bunch of crock. A bunch of crock. Yeah. It's like, what? Last story? You got one?

CHAPTER 30 / 33 Discussion

FBI Cell Phone Tapping, Roving Bugs, AT&T Spook Central

The FBI has the capability to remotely activate cell phone microphones to listen to conversations even when the device is turned off, a technique known as a "roving bug." This surveillance method was reportedly used against organized crime families in New York. A specific AT&T building in San Francisco is identified as "Spook Central," a windowless cube suspected of being a major intelligence hub for the West Coast.

fbi· roving bug· at&t· iphone· cnet· san francisco

1:34:07 I got a lot man, I'm becoming like weirdo central. It's not hard. This drop... It's good for the business. You know what it is? It's the drop.io thing. By the way, let me just promote this to see if anything, if it works with our show. Drop.io slash noagenda. That's where you want to put stuff. Right now I've just been using it, kind of put some links for stuff I want to talk about with John. Now you can use it. Drop.io slash noagenda. uh... this is a nice so i saw the support of fox news which of course maybe laughs at already heard this before my car and other trying out but then seen it starts reporting on it this is about the fbi being able to tap your cell phone even if it's off you've not heard those you can't ask the long pause the long silent pause of settlement that is interesting well i've been hearing this for

1:35:00 months, maybe a year or so. And I'm always like, you know, that just sounds so like, like so completely unreasonable. Because you've got to either you're at the chip level in all these phones or you know, you're at the OS level and you've got Windows Mobile and Symbian and whatever Apple's running on and like, you know, and then they, in the report they expressly say, you keep hearing it, the only way to not enable the FBI to listen in to whatever has happened and the CNET story actually goes into the legality of it and why it's legal and why it's been explained as legal by the Department of Justice I'm sending you the link right now but the only way to stop it is to actually take the battery out which of course for you iPhone users

1:35:49 Maybe that tells you something about Apple's relationship to the government. Well, how about Apple's relationship to AT&T? Right, which by the way, AT&T was busted up and then the next thing you know it was kind of reformed, almost like one of those monsters in the Terminator movie. Reformed, SBC bought all these other companies, but the next thing you know they changed their name to AT&T. And they take over that building in San Francisco. There's a building on 2nd. It's a huge building. It's near me. I mean, I can almost spit on it. I have pictures. Every time I go by, I always have a camera with me. I'm always shooting pictures of that thing. Imagine a huge block of cinder.

1:36:33 with no windows. It's a big giant cube that most of the windows are covered by metal. There's not even windows in it. I've never seen windows. Maybe there's not. I don't think there's windows. It's designed, you know, it kind of looks a little gothic-y in a way. Not gothic. Well, anyway, it's architectured. Someone thought about it. But it looks like a huge cone of silence. And it's big. It's not like we're not talking about a shack. Yeah, it's huge. I think it's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, about 12, 13 stories high, something like that. Anyway, that's where, you know, everything, every screwball thing is always traced back to that building. That building supposedly is Spook Central for the West Coast and looks like it.

1:37:21 And it's also the network control center for AT&T. intelligence agency building and so there's something screwy about AT&T, let's face it. And then now that you mention Apple and the battery that can't be removed and all the people that are going to be radical weirdos are going to have an iPhone. And the fact that there were reports about the iPhone phoning home periodically? No. Yeah, there's been reports about that. Really? I thought you were on like the cusp, man. Well, I'm on the cusp, not the cusp. Exactly.

CHAPTER 31 / 33 Discussion

Nextel Surveillance, FISA Bill, Anti-Spying Code

The Department of Justice approved the use of roving bugs on Nextel phones to monitor mobsters, raising questions about the legality and scope of the FISA bill. There is a call for programmers to write code that can detect when a phone's microphone has been remotely activated. A humorous suggestion is made to have the phone play "It's a Small World" back to the eavesdropping agents once the bug is detected.

nextel· fisa· department of justice· roving bug· mp3· surveillance

1:37:57 Wow. So the FBI, the technique is called a roving bug and was approved by top US Department of Justice officials for use against the members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him. And they started doing this apparently on Nextel cell phones. Which is what mobsters John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso were using. Well that's it, you know, this brings up another point. Which is that the phones, most of the newer phones all have speakerphone capabilities. Yeah. Which would be necessary to pick up the room conversation. Amplified mics that are adjusted for that.

1:38:42 which makes sense now. But what I don't understand is how the FISA bill, I mean that's all about foreigners. Now they're listening to mobsters? I mean it just it's weird. The whole story is weird. It came out across a whole bunch, you know, there must have been a press release that I certainly didn't get. But you read that CNET story, it's pretty in-depth about how it works. I mean you can buy cell phones these days that have that shit in there and you can call the number and it'll, I mean the software is certainly available but I mean, is Nokia letting that happen? Is Apple maybe? But is Microsoft letting that happen? And now that I think of it, yeah, fuck it. They're all in it together. Well, you know, Microsoft has little choice. Nokia, they don't have to do what anybody tells them. They're in Finland for God's sake. Yeah, who knows? Big company. But, you know, yeah.

1:39:34 Interesting. But I like the Apple thing where you can't take the battery out and now we know why. BBC article from 2004 reported... And they did a deal with Wade, they also did a deal, a long-term deal with AT&T and everyone's always... and everybody in the community is baffled by this by the way. Why? Why? Why? Because all those commies are using damn iPhones, John. So I think it's... if the if that is actually a bad fact is gotta be a fix for it i mean there's no way that some guy out there who knows how to code well that's my can write a little piece of code that we just go in there and disable the first thing we need to do is write a little piece of code that actually you know is able to track and find out if something was activated like a log you know it's like ok because this could be at the chip level i mean i and where is it coming from i just don't see how they can do this uniformly

1:40:22 I agree with you. Now, but there's another trick. Does anyone out there who wants to code something, or thinks they know the hook that's in there? Here's what I would recommend. Since most of these things play music now, I think that you should not really disable the function, but when, you should be able to monitor it so when it is turned on for whatever reason, it plays an MP3, namely, it's a small, small world, that Disney tune. through the system and into the spooks speakers. That's funny. That would be a good one. Three more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. Oh, you don't know the movie. Sorry. Rough reference. It's really bad when you start singing. Yeah.

CHAPTER 32 / 33 Discussion

Bank Failures, Credit Default Swaps, Burner Phones

A small bank in Kansas has failed, signaling continued instability in the financial system driven by $500 trillion in uncovered derivatives and credit default swaps. Amidst these economic concerns, the use of "burner" phones is recommended for privacy. There is also skepticism regarding the upcoming Google Android phone and whether it will track users' movements for government or commercial purposes.

bank failure· derivatives· credit default swaps· burner phones· google android· privacy

1:41:12 I'm just taking in the compliments and enjoying them for a moment, John. So, uh, well, no, I mean, it's really bad. I don't mean, I mean bad in the sense that it's bad. It's good. And, uh, no, no. And I think I'm pretty tapped out. Another bank went belly up. Kansas Bank just failed today. If you're going to be involved with a bank failure, you want to be in early. It's the way to get your money. Yeah. Well, this is a very small... When the whole system goes down, then they'll still cancel insurance. I think that's where it's headed, man. The system is in meltdown. I know you're saying it's not going to happen that way, but... It's the bottom. It's all bottom. I can just feel the bouncing, bing, bing, bing, hitting the rocks.

1:41:54 I mean, for the dollar, the economy, for what? Everything. This is the worst case scenario we're going to go through right now. Yeah, but it has to get even worse. There's just no way about it. Derivatives, man. Remember I told you about the auction rate securities? Do you remember how long ago that was? That's been fixed. It's fixed. That's fixed now, but it wasn't a cheap fix. And so now, derivatives. It's like something like $500,000 trillion, no 500,000 billion which is 500 trillion dollars, there you go. 500 trillion dollars of derivatives of which 2% is covered. That's next. People are calling for an exchange for transparency for the counterparty in all these swaps. These

1:42:45 Credit default swaps. This is huge John. I'm telling you this is this is what's next That's what's gonna. That's really gonna blow it all out blow it all up That's gonna make some big boys fall and leave in they can't sell their their their real estate portfolio their coveted real estate portfolio They tried to sell half the company to the Chinese who walked away at the last moment. Yeah, they're gonna need to get more money. I Well, they get it from, you know, the boys in Washington. Hey, by the way, I'm looking at this, I'm still, sorry, I'm preoccupied with this cell phone thing. Clearly you don't give a shit about me telling you that it's all coming to a grind. What you've been saying is, you say this every week, so it's not like I haven't heard it before. And you're not the only one, by the way, I got two or three other people that are telling me the same thing, and all I'm hearing is bottom. This is all bottom talk. Anyway, is that this is another good reason to use burners. What?

1:43:39 The disposable cell phone, the cheap phone you buy at the store for 25 bucks and you put some minutes on it and who cares? Well, of course, what's the Google Android phone going to be all about? Is that going to be completely clear and free or is it going to be completely hyped up and ready to rock to track your every move? Well, the way Google is, it's probably going to track your every move whether the government's involved or not. Yeah, true. Yeah, you're right. God, you're right. Those guys do track everything, don't they? Well, it's all, you know, part of the sales thing. Yeah, I turned off my search history, but you know they still got it. And now they're promoting the Web Accelerator? That's a nice proxy. That's a CIA thing if I've ever heard of one. Hey, just point your browser and all your traffic to this webaccelerator.google.com and we'll make it faster.

CHAPTER 33 / 33 Discussion

Google Web Accelerator, Extraterrestrial Sign-off, Gitmo Nation

The Google Web Accelerator is viewed with suspicion as a potential CIA-linked proxy for tracking web traffic. The show concludes with a final mention of the upcoming Pleiadian encounter and a sign-off from "Gitmo Nation." The hosts, Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, promise to return the following week with an update on the extraterrestrial meeting and more "No Agenda" analysis.

google· web accelerator· pleiadians· gitmo nation· no agenda· podcast

1:44:34 Sure, and slow everything out. What an experiment that's gotta be, huh? Yeah, well there's gotta also be, there's a lot of these by the way, which, you know, getting to the technical side, there's a bunch of these kinds of things most of the uh... phone companies have these you know they want you to use various either proxies or specials tcp i p stacked all over the world so you can get your full experience range of speeds if you have fiber for example and i think those need to be looked at that for sure okay john uh...

1:45:12 Well, we're looking forward to next week because you'll have the report. Yeah, and so what will make you... I mean, besides that, of course, the only question I'm going to ask is what kind of ice cream do you like? Because he's supposed to come back with strawberry. Yep. Right? But, you know, what would make you a believer of a true extraterrestrial encounter? Probably nothing. But you know I think you're going to meet this guy and quickly determine whether or not I mean at what level of insanity We're dealing with here Because I'm let me just say this for the record you're not meeting an alien you're meeting some person Who says he's an alien okay? All right there ergo saying you do not believe in extraterrestrial life forms or UFOs or anything of the like

1:46:13 No, I do think there are UFOs and I think there's probably some explanation for them, but I'm not buying a bunch of, you know, green men roaming around or greys or... No, he said... Pleiades are tall, I think. The kind of Nordic looking. Yeah, I'm sure, because he's probably a Swede. Hello, Hans, nice to meet you. Olaf, how are you? Slip in a foreign phrase and see if you, you know... The El Skadi. Which is I love you. Which is what I do for you, John. Alright. So, but I, regardless of the encounter, I will not speak to you about it until no agenda next week. Okay, and then we'll, if there is a show next week... If not, you know what to do with me.

1:47:10 Stick me in your pipe and smoke me. Have you seen Adam? No, I haven't seen him for a week. He just disappeared. I'll be buzzing your house in my ship, dude. Yeah, well, jump off some seeds. Alright. Okay, so, uh... Well, then I won't talk to you until next week. That's it. That's done. Alright. Alright. I'm coming to you from the United Kingdom. My name is Adam Curry. And I'm John C. DeVorek here in Northern California. Beautiful day. And if we're lucky, we'll talk to you again once more from Gitmo Nation with no agenda next week.