Episode 433 · Thursday, 9 August 2012

Hanseatic League

A deep dive into the domestic terrorism narrative surrounding military veterans, the erosion of private property rights in Washington, and the geopolitical restructuring of Europe.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 433

About this episode

The 2009 Missouri Information Analysis Center report and Department of Homeland Security documents take center stage following the Sikh temple shooting in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Media narratives from Wolf Blitzer and the Southern Poverty Law Center are scrutinized for linking military veterans to domestic terrorism, while conflicting reports emerge regarding the death of Wade Michael Page. The investigation into Page’s background reveals potential ties to military PSYOPS and FBI informant programs, raising questions about the scripted nature of eyewitness accounts and the arrest of Misty Cook.

Legislative shifts accelerate as S-679, the Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act, removes Senate confirmation for hundreds of positions to consolidate executive power. In Washington State, new sustainability mandates under Agenda 21 restrict rainwater collection to primary rooftops and impose $1,000 telemetric meters on private wells. Meanwhile, the Intelligence Authorization Act targets whistleblowers with expanded polygraph testing, and the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rules that citizens cannot sue for the collection of wiretap information. Global tensions rise as Israel eyes Greek energy assets and Nordic nations consider a modern Hanseatic League to survive the Euro crisis.

From the high desert of Joe's Valley to the F-16 flight paths over Layton, Utah, the Hot Pockets Tour captures the reality of RV logistics and amateur radio shacks. Hillary Clinton’s uncoordinated dancing in South Africa and the suspicious timing of an Aurora fire provide moments of levity and intrigue. The program concludes with a look at the Mars Curiosity rover’s low-resolution imagery and Barry Sonnenfeld’s theory on why movie stars require disproportionately large heads to achieve Hollywood success.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Webinar Business Models and Alternative Terminology

A discussion regarding the prevalence and business structure of webinars highlights how companies are charged significant fees, such as $40,000, to host sessions featuring journalists and industry experts. Alternative names for the medium are proposed, including "wanfrance," "wonkfrance," and "semiweb," as a critique of the standard terminology.

webinar· business model· network attached storage· wonkfrance· semiweb

00:00 It's a wet state. It's soaking! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday August 9th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 433 This is no agenda. Down to the F-16 flight path of Hill Air Force Base here in Gitmo Nation Golden Them Hills Leighton Utah In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Dan from Northern Silicon Valley, where... Wait a minute! I'm going to miss the webinar. I'm John C. DeBrack. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning! What are you talking about? What webinar?!

00:39 Can I get an acting job one of these days? Well, you can get a bit part but what webinar. What are you missing? What's going on? There is always a webinar on it. If your getting emails or webinars go to the webinars join the webinars. No, don't get no spam and I do not get any webinar emails. I only got look at that! Webinar. Sometimes it might be an interesting webinar Yeah, yeah you have to pay for the webinar? No most webinars are free Oh well then what's the point of the webinars It's a bad business model no it's not what they do because Zipf used to do these webinars and by The way I just hate the word webinar Of course that is why you say it! I know you So um They will line up people interested in network attached storage

01:27 And then it would be hosted by some journalist plus someone from a network-attached storage company. And they'll ding this company 40 grand." We need a new name instead of webinar, maybe a wanfrance? Wanfrance... doesn't that sound better? Wanfrance or uh...? No it sounds bad too What else do we have? A wonkfrance Wonkfrance what other words do we have for uh...? It's a seminar on the web so it could be a semiweb Hey man, what's that in your pants? Don't worry man. It's just a semi web nothing wrong it's not pointing your direction

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Tour Stop in Layton, Utah

The program originates from Layton, Utah, situated near Hill Air Force Base in what is described as "Romney country." The presence of F-16 fighter jets flying overhead provides ambient noise as the hosts describe the local military community and the technical setup provided by producer Mike Staton.

layton· utah· hill air force base· f-16· mitt romney

02:06 Anyway, in the morning somebody into paying for the webinar. Morning to you John C Dvorak Good morning to Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water and feet In the air and of course all of our Human resources lined up ready to go in the chat room no agenda stream calm No agenda chat net as the sin bin Sally in the sin bin are parked outside producer Mike Staton's house here in Layton Utah just north of Salt Lake City Mike Staple? Staton. Statum, statum Oh, sounds like you said staples No no Mike Statam and he has graciously provided us with power and he has very nice he has a 50 megabit fiber optic connection to the interwebs that's what you call hooked up where are you in Layton Utah

03:01 Oh. L-A-Y T-O-N, it's just Romney country! Yeah baby and you will be hearing some F16s flying directly overhead during today's program Well it'd be interesting if they fire on ya So that's what they train here at Hill Air Force Base which is literally like three miles up the road and they do their turn after takeoff right over the house Now they were practicing late last night until like 11.30, so according to Mike who... Don't they have any zoning regulations in this part of the world? Yeah! This is... Noise abatement it's called? No this is zoned for F-16s It's meant to be this way Brother Well yeah well its all military Its like I'm living and we're in a Top Gun community here

03:49 Okay, you know guys walking down the street in camos. You know it's a it's what you'd expect just in case I feel very safe I have to tell you I feel great here Although you know all these guys these military guys you know they're not only racist But they're all ready to snap at any minute and kill ya Yeah yeah can happen well before we get into that let me let me just tell you about our travels so far on the 2009 leg of the tour where we last left off was Well, I did the show from from Erie outside of Denver. That was after our Colorado Springs meetup then we took to the road direction Utah and we wound up let's see we We got to Idaho Springs the first night which is the first hot springs kind of on i-70 and

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

RV Driving Techniques and Reversing Challenges

An account of traveling through Idaho Springs, Colorado, details the learning curve associated with reversing a large trailer into parking spots. The physical and mental coordination required to steer a truck in the opposite direction of the desired trailer path is compared to rubbing one's stomach while patting one's head.

rv· trailer· idaho springs· colorado· driving

04:44 You're in Idaho. No, it's called Idaho Springs but it's in Colorado that makes zero sense and I can't help that and By the way you don't want to get into the Idaho hot springs Idaho Springs Hot Springs because like It's kind of like the Griswolds all these places. You know a bunch of shirtless sweaty dudes Yeah, let's go in on the hot springs not I think I'll pass dude I'm going to the hot springs where by the way bathing suits are optional Yeah, we did get a nice couples massage. That was nice And we stayed overnight at at a campsite Where I learned for the first time how to reverse the sin bin into a into a parking spot It takes a little while but once you get it then you can kind of do it But it's uh...it's very counterintuitive backing this thing up

05:41 Have you ever do it? It's not once, no if you can visualize how the mechanism works. It is not counterintuitive. No uh-uh Well it took a little while. It was kind of like rubbing your tummy and patting your head at the same time You said this exact same phrase before And I'm not buying that because you're only doing one thing, you're not doing two at the same time. You just have to think in a different dimension." Well, no, I disagree because when you want the trailer to go one way of course your truck is going the exact other way than what you'd wanted it to go so is like looking at 2 things. You have to look at the trailer and see where its starting to turn and point and also make sure the nose of your car isn't bumping into anything

06:25 Right well, okay, but it's a that's a continuum. It's not Simultaneous okay unless you got eyeballs in the back of your head yeah lot of lot of trailer experience John Yeah as a matter of fact well next time you can come along and you can drive okay? No, it's not that hard You've been moaning about it for excessive know and you haven't hit anything Well No, I know. I haven't hit anything but it's I find I find it complicated and now having been moaning about it I mean, I'm just giving you an update anything. I was giving you an update I want to update on the tour not on your driving habits so then we went to after a night in Idaho Springs We continued along I-70 and We went to

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Glenwood Springs Visit and Teddy Roosevelt History

A visit to Glenwood Springs, Colorado, included a meetup featuring self-processed elk sausages and a stay near the historic Hotel Colorado. The location is noted for its association with Teddy Roosevelt, who reportedly frequented the area for its hot springs over a century ago.

glenwood springs· colorado· teddy roosevelt· hotel colorado· elk sausage

07:18 Glenwood Springs Glenn we get off the beaten path off of 70 or you just stay on the big After after Glenwood Springs, I'll tell you that in a second. So he went to Glenwood Springs That's where our producer JD Was so kind enough to hook him up to his His home actually the home he grew up in which was very cool and his dad coach Miller Lives there with them who was very very well known in in the small Town of Glenwood Springs, which is kind of the where everyone who services Aspen lives in Glenwood Springs and So we had a nice little little meetup. We had some of his most excellent self shot self processed elk sausages oh nice yeah really outstanding and you know

08:12 Glenwood Springs is where the hotel, the Colorado Hotel which has been there for a hundred years I guess that's where Teddy Roosevelt... Very famous place. Yeah what do you know about it? Because I got some of the back story. I saw it on one of those great hotels of history specials on TV and don't know anything about it. Well apparently Teddy Roosevelt... If you watch something on TV you learn nothing. It looks great! Don't know anything about it other than that Teddy Roosevelt stayed there Because I guess it's for the hot springs there and that's why though. That's what they put that thing there a hundred years ago so we had a great visit their stayed overnight, then we went on and We decided to we definitely got off the beaten path if you have your map handy John Make it handy okay? We got off Off off I-70

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Traveling Through Joe's Valley and High Desert Utah

The travel narrative continues through the mountainous high desert of Utah to Joe's Valley, where the elevation reaches 9,000 feet. Observations from the trip include the abundance of roaming cattle, the lack of light pollution allowing for clear stargazing, and the sighting of a fast-moving satellite.

joe's valley· utah· high desert· light pollution· satellite

09:04 Just as well first of all you went through that whole, you know like Give me the name of a town so I can put on Google. Okay? Joe's Valley Really yeah Joe's Valley You'll find it in Utah or actually upper Joe's Valley to be precise Which is route 10 up from Joe's Valley and there's Joe's Valley Utah camping yep correct That's it So we went up north, after going through that desert for like... Oh my god! We went through the desert for two hours. Which I have to say was a You must've been going fast this is actually kind of mountainous desert It's exactly what Utah looks like in the movies Yeah high mountain, high desert And so it was 110 degrees again in the desert Sally doing pretty good though now that I'm putting 91 octane in her

09:56 Somehow the keeps are cooler. So that's good That's because you must have been having some pre-ignition problems which heats up the engine Yeah, I think so so that's working much better and then we started probably get by with 89 yeah, I'll keep them happy at 91 right now not happy with the price and then we went up I guess elevation we got to almost about 9,000 feet and this is how it was outstanding all of a sudden you break into into Joe's Valley and it says you know there's lakes and there's cows walking around completely you're roaming across the road

10:33 Which look really tasty in fact miss Mickey every five minutes like I want to eat guys hungry Running over a cow and eating it. I want to eat that one I want to eat that one because they look so happy and content, and they look beautiful You're on 70 which is also the same as old highway 50 the Lincoln Highway mm-hmm might have very historic okay And so you were on 70 and you cut up, I don't see how you got to... Route 10. Oh route ten okay i see that. 10-29 Then you had this horrible desert Yeah we did the desert. Then you cut over on 29 to get to the valley's reservoir? Yep 29. Okay then what? We camped out and it was really cool because there is a spot where you just pull in

11:21 You're good. Yeah, Greg woods here and the silence was deafening it was just you know except for you know Then you start to hear things like the woodpeckers And we didn't see a bear We were hoping to see one we didn't see any bear your better off not seeing yeah There's a lot of them around though and and then of course at night The star universe is Just not to be believed particularly if you take some binoculars This is something you want to do If you can really get out somewhere where there's no ambient light pollution. It's called light pollution? Yeah, light pollution from a city and you just look up like wow! You know... Oh we saw a spacecraft go by confirmed. A satellite. Well why would the satellite have lights on it was it blinking no it was moving very fast that's a satellite really yeah they're very reflective hmm

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Mike Staton and Amateur Radio Operations

Producer Mike Staton, a retired Air Force veteran now working as a civilian air traffic control systems manager, is profiled. His home setup includes an extensive amateur radio "shack" and a large homemade dipole antenna stretching across his backyard.

mike staton· ham radio· dipole antenna· air traffic control· hill air force base

12:22 Okay, they really move fast when you see one go across you. Go wow that thing's moving Yeah, well you kind of bummed me out now because I said to make it look there's a spacecraft she said yep confirmed That was good. I'm like okay. Let's go to bed Now how do i feel safe? Satellite huh okay alright. I'll take satellite and And somehow we messed up a day in Mike here in in Layton he was expecting us last night So some confusion anyway, so I guess he waited until around midnight when I screw it They're probably dead there in the hills. So we did He's a very drunk up by their feet and bled he's a very low-key kind of guy Mike's great he's Retired from the Air Force Did his 20 years? Now he's a civilian doing the same job working on the he sets up all the air traffic control systems And he runs it he runs it here at Hill

13:19 and it's amazing he's got a he's a ham radio operator. He's got a shack I'm gonna take pictures of it yeah outstanding really beautiful setup and he has this like homemade dipole which stretches all across the backyard, I swear to God if one of his neighbors takes a picture of it and then calls here we go there's an f-16 first one of the day Wow, you should be recording these. Yeah well hopefully we are uh I swear to god if you know he ticks all the boxes man He's like keeps to himself. It's got a crazy antenna in the backyard. He's got an arsenal Look at there's another one this is gonna go on all day Okay well that gets a little ambience of the show So where are you now? so you were at the lake and you went

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

Utah Geography and Future Tour Routing

The travel itinerary covers the drive through Ephraim and onto I-15, with reflections on the beauty of Utah's mountain resorts like Snowbird. Future plans for the tour include stops in Sun Valley, Boise, and a southern swing through New Mexico to visit a listener who has been knighted by the show.

i-15· snowbird· sun valley· boise· new mexico

14:15 No, so we were at the lake. You went up north? What'd you do? Then we cut over west if you look on your map 31 So he's down 29, so he went on that zigzag road Yeah which is not even paved Must have been a nightmare It was beautiful are you kidding me it was fantastic I'm looking at the-on the map it looks like its Ziggy It was! Alright so then you went over to 89 and hit Ephraim Yes exactly and then we went down uh and caught the island Down first and back up on the I15 A 15. Yeah, I 15. Oh So you went all oh geez that's a hair. That's a that's that's that's the way that was it serious drive It wasn't but oh my we're gonna come back and where you know somehow Utah had this like bad rap in my mind You know it's like barren wasteland propagandized by the by the media is so beautiful The mountains here is just there's a bunch of ski resorts in the Utah area are just phenomenal snowbird I've actually

15:14 Skied Snowbird back in the MTV days. Snowmass I think is another one? Yeah, don't know about that one But besides that just the camping a lot and you can stay in one spot for 14 days So you can basically live there and then you know And then when your after your fourteen days You just move you know to another place for fourteen yeah Just move up 100 yards. You could be hiding out forever completely Only thing of course is there's no interwebs. And I will say this on the travel, because once we got up to the top of the mountain which was another thousand feet I think all of a sudden AT&T G4 what they call G4 their LTE just kicks in and starts to work. I have to say in comparison to last year where I had Verizon T-Mobile and AT&T all them pretty much sucked AT&T was still the best

16:03 I don't know what it is with the G4 frequencies they're using, but i have connectivity almost everywhere that we've been so far. And it's not possible that maybe in this year they put up either... Maybe the LTE hasn't- Well they're always putting new stuff up Yeah but even on that desert you know crossing into Utah We had probably getting some signal from a distance That's only thing So I'm thinking LTE reaches further or something It's uh... One of our guys said no Because okay, so here's the deal. So I'm looking at where so where are you now? What town okay now we're in Layton la yto n I don't see that on here Yeah, it's above Salt Lake City Oh your aboves all you've already driven that far yeah We've gone you're on the move we are booking baby That's a lot of driving uh-huh Thank You well you were complaining about us staying in Colorado so long I figured okay Well give it a shot so you got what you probably so you are headed to Pocatello and

17:02 Well next we're going to Sun Valley after the show. We pack up go to Sun Valley couple of producers up there, and then we want to say hi too And then we're going to Boise and you know Idaho Falls I don't know possibly no Possibly and then we're gonna come back either going okay if you're going to boys You're probably going through Twin Falls yeah III don't know miss Mickey is the one who knows And so what we've decided now is instead of going up to Montana, we're gonna swing around after Boise and we're gonna go all the way down to New Mexico which we missed on our when we moved out to Texas. Are you gonna see one of our famous nights? Yeah, yeah We're gonna see our night and we're going to do a meet-up that lot of people really excited So we're gonna go New Mexico route

17:50 And and then back to Texas so we should be back in down on the 95 again I don't know. I can't think that far ahead This is very tiring John yes, I'm grousing about that you wake up You go like you should you guys it should be grossing more It's fun to listen to you go like oh my god where are we what day is this? Oh? We lost the day. Oh man someone's wait What okay? Yeah, well are you gonna swing through great? Basin National Park? Yeah, well I hope so. Whatever that is, I sure hope so we have decided that without a doubt the national parks is where it's at We've been in RV parks, we've been in camping grounds screw that you go up to these mountains like in Utah and you just plop down and build a fire there's no one around, no one harassing of course there's no electricity water or anything else but that's why... You got self-contained system yeah that's why you get your thing all set up exactly

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

RV Waste Management and Steaming Manure

A discussion on the logistics of RV travel focuses on the necessity of finding dump stations to manage waste tanks. An anecdote is shared regarding a visit to Dungeness Farms in Washington State, where a truck filled with steaming cow manure was observed.

rv· waste management· dungeness farms· manure· washington state

18:45 Exactly you do after a couple days have to find it a dump that is quite key because otherwise You're sleeping in a litter box. I mean unless you guys are just crapping non-stop But it's hot outside so there's basically a plastic box underneath the trailer with poop, that's just boiling and We're driving around with boiling poop. Yeah, that's exactly what it is! So I was at... did i tell you this story? I must have. I relate it every time comes up in the conversation so I'm at the dairy up and Washington State there is this Dungeness Farms that has a raw milk and its great place very clean but there was a truck dump truck coming out of the place filled with

19:33 Poop. With poop? Yeah, cow poop and it was steaming yeah I finally got to see the steaming truck of crap It can actually catch on fire You hear about it never seen it I was really giddy about pointing at every look look look it's a steaming truck of crap its steaming just like they said I don't get excited about that much. Anyway, in 2009, I'm pretty sure on this very program here the No Agenda Show which of course is also known as... We discussed the MIAC report. Actually, the MIAC I think is strategic report Do you recall this John? The MIAC Report? I'm sure i will when you get to talking about it It's the Missouri Information Analysis Center MIAC Strategic Report February 20th 2009 The Modern Militia Movement

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

MIAC Report and Domestic Terrorism Concerns

The 2009 Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report is revisited in the context of the Sikh temple shooting in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Media coverage, particularly from Wolf Blitzer, is criticized for linking military veterans and right-wing symbols to domestic terrorism threats as outlined in Department of Homeland Security documents.

miac report· homeland security· wade michael page· sikh temple shooting· veterans

20:32 Wherein they had this whole checklist of basically okay? Here's what's gonna happen You're gonna see former military guys who are gonna start killing people shooting people up They like Ron Paul. They carry the Constitution Right they carry a constitution they lie they got Ron Paul bumper sticker exactly They keep to themselves. They got crazy and crazy antennas I'm pestering Mike about this the whole day. So don't let you don't let your neighbors see it they watch zeitgeist on on YouTube and So, you know It's been very hard keeping up with what's going on But of course, you know C-SPAN has their video page and CNN has their video page and wolf blitzer just blew me away where he in light of our net are now second shooting

21:27 in Oak Creek, the Sikh shooting. So he pulls out all the stops And of course, this report is filled with all the memes. There's the racism there's the military there's a homegrown terrorism and he refers back to the MIAC report saying well see we told you this was going to happen I mean the number people that are being killed in these attacks is relatively small But that said, when people think of terrorism they shouldn't automatically think of Al-Qaeda. They should think of right wing terrorism and also eco terrorists, an animal rights liberation front folks haven't done lethal terrorist attacks

22:16 uh... but they've sent it on property damage you try to keep this into some sort of perspective let me read you from a department of homeland security report that was released in two thousand nine returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to right wing extremists dhs department of homeland security i n a which is the office of intelligence analysis at d h s his concern that right-wing extremist will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities. You agree with that assessment? I think that's a very legitimate concern, think about it. Of course! It makes nothing but sense! Timothy McVeigh an army veteran who killed 168 Americans in Oklahoma City in 95. Wade Michael Page in Wisconsin... Again we have a guy with three names now. Wade Michael Page, Wade Michael Page On Sunday, a military veteran

23:10 I think that's a very legitimate concern. So there is military training, do you think some of these extremists they go into the military... Did you hear the tell? Oh yeah just so you know. ...to obtain the training and then go out and do what they want to do or their in effect militarized by the military. Duh! I don't want to hazard a guess on that one. Obviously McVeigh had long left the military when he did Oklahoma City, Wade Michael Page also long left the military but having some military training doesn't hurt if you want to go out and kill people It doesn't hurt if you want to go out and kill people! That's what the military training is for

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Southern Poverty Law Center and Lone Wolf Terrorism

Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center discusses the difficulty law enforcement faces in predicting "lone wolf" attacks like that of Wade Michael Page. The media's insistence on using the full three-part name of the shooter is questioned as a potential psychological or coding tactic.

southern poverty law center· mark potok· wade michael page· fbi· lone wolf

23:56 So the question is what can be done about all of this? Here's what Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center told me in The Situation Room yesterday. Now these guys, we've talked about them before, I don't trust them. Yeah, I have mixed feelings about him. You know it's almost like Sometimes it seems that they're doing a good thing and then other times they get their nose involved with stuff that seems suspect. Really, I don't see any fault in law enforcement in this. I do not see how they might have prevented it You know there are just a number of people out there and some tiny percentage of them will ultimately act on those beliefs but when they're you know lone wolves terrorists like this fella Page It's just about impossible to predict or interdict

24:45 Good, because law enforcement is always worried about First Amendment rights. You can say anything you want the question is do you cross the line? Yeah, in this case in the case of Wade Michael Page it does. It looks like he didn't cross the line indications of major Nadal Hassan who of course killed for 13 people at Fort Hood Texas motivated by Al Qaeda ideology He was in touch with the Yemeni American cleric and then they go on and on Part of this is putting it on law enforcement because they knew and of course the FBI had been watching this guy this WMP WMP WM I'm not aware that anything like that that would occur at this time. And obviously, this event is going to continue to unfold and we're gonna learn more about Wade Michael Page and the people with him. He was affiliated. But how long do you think this officer's gonna have to be protected?

25:31 That's a good question. I think again the more we know about Wade Michael page We might learn about him in his background. I think that would determine Wade Michael Paige Wade Michael Paige What is it? What is up with this with the three names the Wade Michael? No, it just have no idea what they just call him Wayne Page when there was a mate Michael Penny's you some uses a he's an alleged murderer and why do we have to Why do we have to acknowledge his middle name? It's not as though there's a bunch of these guys. There's some code involved There's got to be a reason for it Anyway, here's a couple reports I picked up. This is where the racism and FBI comes into it. Criminologists who interviewed Page said he started identifying with the neo-Nazi movement while he was in the army! Okay now this is very important because listen closely to this report they even have an ex skinhead who comes on... And of course the military is always going to be a subsection of the United States population so you will always have

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Allegations of White Supremacy in the Military

Reports suggest that white supremacist organizations actively recruit on military bases, with some claims stating that neo-Nazi groups have infiltrated most parts of the armed forces. A former Marine describes a past environment where overt racist symbols were occasionally tolerated by commanders unless high-ranking officials were visiting.

neo-nazi· military recruitment· fort bragg· skinheads· racism

26:31 You know a small fraction of crazy people, but the way they're portraying this is very disturbing and I think that you know having read a lot of anything Can you hear me? Yeah. The way the White House insider on Ulsterman has been describing the military being very unhappy with Obama, I think this report shows what they might be very unhappy about is basically saying everyone in the military is probably a racist and a skinhead and wants to kill people because he thought African-American soldiers got preferential treatment Specifically, what he told me at one point was that if you join the military and you're not a racist then you certainly will be by the time you leave. Well before pictures like this were posted on Facebook The FBI had identified hundreds of veterans involved in white supremacist incidents And federal investigators say small numbers of white supremacists have infiltrated most parts of the military Most parts of the military?

27:30 Really? So they're everywhere now. While Page was at Fort Bragg in 1995, three soldiers were caught and convicted of murdering a black couple outside the base All were identified as neo-Nazi skinheads The army cracked down on racists in the ranks and kicked out dozens of soldiers But the problem goes way beyond one base. Every major military installation you will have at least two or three active neo-nazi organizations actively trying to recruit on duty personnel every single base John, actively recruiting This is a shameful report. Sounds like prison! Yeah, but this is absolutely outrageous that they talk like...this sounds CNN. TJ Laded would know he's a former Marine and skinhead who says some military units ignore overt racism. Of course I used to hang a swastika flag in my wall locker

28:24 and everybody in my unit all the way up to my commander knew it. The only time they ever asked me to take it down was when the commanding general would come through, just so they wouldn't get in trouble." Now that's not to say that happens across-the-board In fact even Layden admits that in his brothers' unit the commander there took an extremely hard line against this kind of racism. So this is the whole racism thing! And I think...I think its going to be well in fact the president already using this It's like not just against guns, but there is a racism aspect. There is all this crazy stuff going on and it's singling out military. Yeah I think this was an interesting angle that I didn't expect. I've got a couple of clips we should probably play along here to keep the thing interesting. Thanks!

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Wade Michael Page Death Investigation Discrepancies

Conflicting reports regarding the death of Wade Michael Page are examined, specifically the shift from a narrative where a police officer killed him to one where he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The arrest of Page's ex-girlfriend, Misty Cook, on unrelated weapons charges is also noted.

wade michael page· sikh temple· suicide· police shooting· misty cook

29:19 No, it's interesting. I mean, I like that last clip but it just like there is something... There are more to this story because first of all the original report and they... Because they killed.. There was one specific guy that was killed that may have been actually the target of whole thing But there was an armed policeman apparently in the Sikh temple who started firing at this guy and what would this guy was not a Sikh, what was he doing there in the first place if you're looking at the early reports? So with so this cop in there. And so the cop kills him supposedly now they've changed the story where the cop wounded him and he shot himself which makes zero sense. And do you have a clip for this? No I don't have a clip for that I'm just saying these clips... I have the clip for that Oh well play that clip and then I'll get to mine

30:03 In the crucial moments when police were trying to neutralize him, we now learn suspect Wade Michael Page was first shot in the stomach by a police officer. Then... It appears that page died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Appears. Into the head Officials say they still can't find a motive, no specific clues on why Page went on a shooting rampage killing six worshippers at the Sikh temple of Wisconsin. But they do have an idea of what brought him to the Milwaukee area. Now this is great if you had to come up with a name For a crazy chick and you have a crazy mugshot, it doesn't get any better than this. He was probably here because of his relationship with her I'm not gonna get into why they broke up Why aren't you gonna get into why they broke up? Something must've happened there That's Misty Cook! Misty Cook... Misty Cook

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Eyewitness Accounts and Online Nationalist Reactions

Local reports from Milwaukee describe the shooter's living conditions and a 9/11 tattoo on his arm. Meanwhile, an eyewitness account from the Associated Press initially mentioned four white males in dark clothing, and online white nationalist forums reportedly expressed skepticism about Page's identity, suggesting he might be a "patsy."

milwaukee· sikh temple· eyewitness· white nationalist· fbi

30:53 Misty Cook, yes. Identified as Paige's ex-girlfriend she was arrested this week on an unrelated weapons charge law enforcement officials are looking at connections that cook like page had with white supremacist groups uh huh misty you know that the misty cook whenever i hear that it reminds me what was manson's crazy chick's name yeah right I know what you're thinking you know what I mean? What is her name We'll think of it in a second. Well, here I have the local report on the shooter in Wisconsin. Okay, here we go. Smiles from the Sikh temple. Neighbors say police were focused on an upstairs flat and rifling through garbage cans in the alley The landlord of the building says he rented the flat to a man in his 40s, an army veteran He believed to be from Chicago And that happened about a month ago

31:41 He tells the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Police did not tell him if the tenant was the shooter, but the tenants description apparently matches according to him. A white male bald in his 40s with a 9-11 tattoo on his arm. The officers had an armored truck, trailer and several other vehicles here. They evacuated residents from a two-block area once again now one neighbor told me that she and her husband were not allowed back into their homes until about midnight. She said police were walking around with a photo of the gunman showing the photo to all the neighbors in and conducting interviews for quite awhile here yesterday. So I ran in, meanwhile they're showing the picture on the net, the neighbor says that was it was the guy living there? No we don't know what we can say! This always annoys me play this clip Guy checks white nationalist blogs

32:32 Okay. Record that I just got done watching CNN and they're saying that this Wade Michael Page is a white nationalist or a white supremacist, and that he's like the lead singer of what they're calling a hate music band or a white power music band And that he somehow popular in that group So i thought that sounded really strange so to the mainstream white nationalist online forum, which is heavily moderated. You can't go in there and pose as somebody so I look around and nobody knows who this guy is they think he's a fake or a patsy that the news is making it up

33:25 So I just want that to go on the record, okay? Yeah. Excellent! And in addition to that listen to what an eyewitness says in early report this is a associated press reports so you have to assume there's some legitimacy too and listen what the guy said For Temple service every Sunday starts around 10-1030 and usually goes into afternoon at around ten between ten and ten thirty for white males who are dressed darkly Four four white males dressed in dark clothing for so it's kind of hard to imagine that yeah

34:06 Yeah, like I yeah exactly. You've changed the story from the cop killing him and local for about two or three days. The cop was this huge hero, he never said anything that he didn't kill him. And then I'm thinking it goes like this some insurance company calls up who's ever writing the script and says hey if this cop killed them this is gonna cost us yeah if he committed suicide we're off the hook so what can you change the story for us? Would be doing me a big favor Bill. Why is it always Bill

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Media Narratives and Political Responses to Violence

Fox News is criticized for confusing the Sikh temple shooting with anti-Semitism, while President Obama's speech in Denver is analyzed for its focus on "senseless violence." The rhetoric is viewed as a precursor to potential legislative pushes for gun control or ammunition bans.

fox news· barack obama· anti-semitic· gun control· aurora

33:25 So I just want that to go on the record, okay? Yeah. Excellent! And in addition to that listen to what an eyewitness says in early report this is a associated press reports so you have to assume there's some legitimacy too and listen what the guy said For Temple service every Sunday starts around 10-1030 and usually goes into afternoon at around ten between ten and ten thirty for white males who are dressed darkly Four four white males dressed in dark clothing for so it's kind of hard to imagine that yeah

34:06 Yeah, like I yeah exactly. You've changed the story from the cop killing him and local for about two or three days. The cop was this huge hero, he never said anything that he didn't kill him. And then I'm thinking it goes like this some insurance company calls up who's ever writing the script and says hey if this cop killed them this is gonna cost us yeah if he committed suicide we're off the hook so what can you change the story for us? Would be doing me a big favor Bill. Why is it always Bill

34:50 Always bill yeah, so Fox News also got the memo about hey. Let's tie this into racism This is really good for the president and I got the clip of the president tying into this in a minute And they are so stupid So stupid but they got the memo They didn't quite understand how to how to parse what they were supposed to say there have been to your knowledge any prior acts? violence against members of The temple any anti-semitic acts against... Anti-Semitic. How do you go from here to anti-semitic? Because they're so stupid, they got the memo like this has gotta be racial or whatever and he says temples, we think oh a temple alright there's gotta be Jews. Sikh it's gotta be uh... They're Jews aren't they? Aren't they Jews?! They are Jews! How stupid is Fox News? Anti-Semitic

35:43 This is total idiots. This is bad, total total idiot so here's President Obama in Denver and how he is using this and then this worries me very much the topic he chooses to attach to this is senseless violence Wisconsin where six members of our community were killed as they entered into a house of worship And then so I think we can all acknowledge We've got to put an end to this kind of senseless violence. Whether it's in Aurora, whether it's in Oak Creek, whether it's in Tucson... Or Pakistan! Yeah exactly, Pakistan how about Anaheim? Let me give you one of those Mr President Across America where too many lives are cut short because of senseless violence And we're calling it senseless violence but what are we going to do about it Ms President

36:43 This is going to have to stop. And as an American family, as one American family... You hear the prompter flub? As one American family big flub there. Big Flub! Here we go. One American Family We're gonna have to come together and look at all the approaches that we can take Like banning ammo? To try bring it into it. Uh huh. I want you all know that thoughts and prayers Yeah blah blah So there ya go Yeah, well so and the other thing that I you know they the guy calling in and having him change the script at the last minute.

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Character Analysis of Wade Michael Page

An interview on Piers Morgan's program featuring a friend of Wade Michael Page is scrutinized for appearing rehearsed. The friend's claim that he began searching news articles for Page's name before the shooting occurred is highlighted as highly suspicious and potentially scripted.

wade michael page· piers morgan· alcoholism· army· psychological profile

37:25 I don't know if you caught this at some point, there was one report that kind of went through and then came and went about the guy apparently was an out-and-out drunk. Yeah He's a huge alcoholic And he must have been in alcoholic rage did you catch this? No i didn't catch that one do You have that clip no i dont have it but i have the counter to it because pierce morgan had a friend yeah Of the shooter and the guy was so rehearsed that at the end It's just what he says absolutely makes zero sense. And after, by the way had a long interview with this guy and the thing that stuck out in my mind was that apparently

38:04 Philips showed up and whatever is a Wade shows up, and he never mentioned once that even asked for a drink And it for now now drunk that seems highly unlikely me ask your question did his friend have 9-11 tattoos was he a skinhead no? No. He looked like a normal guy They were apparently buddies in the army for a while and and you tell me that you can hear they rehearsed ending to this It was uh it's like What he said at the end makes no sense in a million years. Would you say that he was a violent man? No, not really. He always seemed calm and reserved like really passive but he didn't seem like the type that would try to start a fight You know I certainly...I can't say that I wouldn't have seen this coming because honestly a couple weeks ago I was thinking of him

38:55 and just to see how he's been doing over the years. And when I couldn't find any contact information, I did start looking for news articles that something like this might have happened somewhere... Oh please! ...and I had missed it. I haven't heard from my buddy in a long time. Let me see if he's killed anyone. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. First he goes non-violent and then all of the sudden he starts to stammer and he goes back to the script. And the script includes you know...I suspected this could happen so i started looking at news stories since I didn't have any contact with him

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Military Veterans and the War on Domestic Dissent

The discussion centers on a perceived "war" against military veterans, where individuals without Facebook accounts or those with Ron Paul stickers are flagged as suspicious. Claims from a YouTube analyst suggest Page had a background in military PSYOPS and may have been an FBI informant tasked with infiltrating the National Alliance.

miac report· veterans· fbi· national alliance· psyops

39:35 So in other words, you lose track of somebody. You don't even go to Facebook and you immediately start scouring the news to see who he shot! Come on! So I'm sure that you saw the report that came out in a German magazine, Der Tagesspiegel. If you do not have a Facebook account, are suspicious? That's another beauty. I don't want to sound like some crazy right-wing radio talk show host or Alex Jones, but I have to say you know. I've met so many military personnel on this trip and by the way America's a lot of military it maybe it's just this region we happen to be in but wow little and they listen to this show And it really feels like there's a war on our own military

40:24 You know, you just check all the boxes on this MIAC report. You listen to what's being said and it's all about... It's the crazy veterans coming back. It's like wow man! This is disturbing to me. Well that's disturbing I have one last clip if you can wrap it after this clip but I thought I ran into this one on YouTube And this is a guy who could he's the I concern to be the substitute wannabe no agenda host He wraps off a bunch of stuff with no attribution. No background, nope and and then he makes a conclusion that I just had to crack up at this one and what's the what clip shooter analysis by wannabe? No agenda host hold on a second What is going on you hear that?

41:10 Oh my god, there's like someone that was someone with a car and a bass speaker driving by all right here We go alright guys um here's some more information on the Sikh shooting which happened on 8-5 2012. Wait a minute, you were watching one of these crazy YouTube videos where some guy just sits there and talks to the camera? It's hilarious! Oh actually stop stop he has a sheet of paper with everything he is saying written down and he has like a pen and points at every word as he says it. That's what we call low tech graphics

41:49 Who did this was Wade Michael Page. He had a few band names called End Apathy and 13 Knots The reason why I circled these is because the correlation and the Illuminati connection Let's talk about his, uh this guy's background he was a former soldier And worked for the military PSYOPs and enlisted in the army in 1992. Yeah, you got that too right about the PSYOPS that it worked in the psychological operations? Yes, yes It was later discharged on in 1998 He was last stationed in Fort Bragg serving site these psyops unit this this part of his background is Is not

42:44 going to be talked about in the media or going to be talked about by the government, or the authorities. This guy named David Kellerman he was a former National Alliance leader The National Alliance is a white supremacist group controlled by the FBI this guy David Kellerman said Wade Michael Page went to work for the FBI and was ordered to infiltrate the National Alliance in 2000 to gather intelligence. So basically, Wade is an informant and agent provocateur for the FBI. So if this isn't proof enough

43:34 Yeah, I mean this is the story. I'd like to believe hey I don't have any proof and that I think the the number prediction guy may not be our best source of Proof his guy but but this is definitely the meme That's out there all I know Is is that they're active service men and women who are ticking off the boxes? Right down two doesn't have a Facebook profile And they're going oh my god That's me and that's ludicrous Yeah, no it's totally ludicrous. And I and admit the Ron Paul sticker they don't have a Facebook account he got a ham radio rig in the backyard. They got a constitution with them bad Constitution carrying around. Yeah they carry a constitution usually so they can take an end or win a bet at a bar is only reason you carry him nowadays yeah see now that's bull crap is then your show trade seat look man and so yeah I k owe me a buck well um so to

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Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act

The passage of S-679, the Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act, is identified as a significant shift in constitutional power. By removing the requirement for Senate confirmation for numerous positions, the bill is seen as granting the President more unilateral authority and potentially serving a "continuity of government" agenda.

s-679· congress· constitution· presidential appointments· continuity of government

44:31 I don't know, wrap it. Yeah well the only way i can really wrap that is say something about the constitution we missed a very important bill passing John and I can't believe that... You miss things? But this this is a big one all right what okay here it is it is hold on a second let me just get the bill number Senate, the original was passed last year in the senate. We are talking about S-679 or the Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act Oh no yeah I know but i don't know that we missed this I actually had it to discuss a couple shows ago Well they passed in the house It passed in the house so now all the president has to do is sign it and its law! It changes article 2 of the constitution

45:23 Which allows the press so that in the Constitution article two It gives the Senate the power to accept or reject the appointment of presidential nominees. And by the way, this is great show prep! So they're ruining our show because now we don't have all these great senate confirmation hearings where you see that everyone's a douchebag like we would've known that little Timmy Geithner had never even done his taxes hadn't filed his taxes if there wasn't these types of senate affirmation hearings and so this is now just gone. Now the president is just king And what is the Congress doing? 261 to 116 votes on passing this. These guys are all a-holes! Yeah, this accounts for everybody that gets into these offices and it also counts if somebody gets... What I found interesting about it seemed to be a laundry list of who gets to a position if the guy at the top is killed

46:26 No really. Well see, because that's what I was kind of looking at it for...I was thinking this is odd! Because he was talking about if you have the death of the Secretary of State and the Assistant Secretary and this person then this person takes over. Why are they setting up all these secretaries under the President to be I mean, what is the... they're expecting a bombing or something? What are they...? That's what i was thinking when i was looking at this. I was very baffled by it Well here's a theory then for you This would be the continuity of government program and we have seen many executive orders being passed along these lines in the past few years where it shows the ascension order if someone gets taken out So maybe you got all the secretaries sitting there in Denver

47:14 in the underground base all safe and secure, and then something goes off in Washington and takes it all down. And whether these people get eliminated or not is almost irrelevant if the communications are gone you know who's taking over? Man! You're like more crackpot than I am with that. No this was first thing I thought about because why would... This is a huge bill that has all these details about so-and-so dies and this guy will take over and you don't know who these people are Yours probably makes more sense, but this other thought... I've saved this bill for when i get back.

47:55 It's only 13 pages, but every single part of the bill is remove this replace this you've got to go and Google like section 10a3 of the Selective Service Act And then it's Homeland Security Act 2006 6 USC 238 B I mean there's a lot of work in this as a government legislation analyst To really find the nuggets because that this bill is not an English anymore This is just lawyer speak referring to all... and of course that's what happens with the constitutional change. It's all about the lawyers doing it, but I have not heard one peep about this! This is huge! This is a huge change in the way our country runs. Imagine we think Sebelius was already an idiot so now were just going to get an idiot without even knowing who the idiot is? Go ahead put him in, I'm the king anyway

48:50 But what are the Republicans in Congress thinking? They're passing this because they're so convinced that they're going to win, you know that they're gonna have a Republican president next cycle. It's like hey we'll show them we'll bring in all our buddies I mean what are they thinking! To me it's just unexplicable inexplicable or inexplicably inexplicable yeah You're crackling. All right, maybe we should take a good yeah Why are you cracking worked up? Why are you crackle sorry your crackling is like it's like you have a wire on crackling Yeah Like you have a wire loose or something and let me just check my wires. Yeah, I shouldn't be cracking There's only one wire that'd be crackling be the microphone Maybe that maybe your modem is too close again to the mic. We think we've had no No That's why they have this set up on the other side of the room by the modem Oh

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Tour Logistics and Infrastructure Updates

Updates on the "Hot Pockets Tour" include the release of photo sets via the show's newsletter and a call for listeners to update their RSS feeds to avoid reliance on third-party infrastructure. A 27-year-old student pursuing a degree in "sustainability" is mentioned for his interest in applying No Agenda concepts to his studies.

hot pockets tour· newsletter· rss feed· itunes· sustainability

54:42 of pictures from the Hot Pockets Tour, so no Facebook. And those will be exclusively in the next newsletter So if you want those links you can only get them if you subscribe to the newsletter You can always find links to the newsletters even RSS feed at 433 in the show notes, 433.nashownotes.com A quick thanks and associate producer executive producer credit to Robert Seals he hosted our Colorado Springs meetup which I think i forgot to thank him same goes for JD Miller who hooked us up in Glenwood Springs and Mike Staton of course was also contributed to the show and asked you if you had cashed the $100 check recently which came in

55:22 Which he had not seen. Did you go to the bank? Because he sent you a check and said that he hadn't seen it cashed What's... Like three weeks ago maybe It might be in the pile, I only go to the bank once every couple of weeks And Eric Grumling from Aspen donated $200 on the spot and also gave Ms Mickey and I Wait wait what is his last name? Is it Grumbling? Grumbling no B Grumbling Eric Grumbling And he gave us a he gave miss Mickey, and I as a wedding gift a five ounce silver bar Which is cool. It's heavy five ounces. That's like well you're weak baby Right you're weak man. Oh week man exactly oh and we it's not an executive producer but we this This kid 27 year old Rob

56:17 who goes to school at the college where JD Miller, he's like the groundskeeper but also does maintenance and studying BA in English. This kid is so smart! He talked all night long. He's going for his degree in sustainability Apparently there's a bachelor's degree for that and I don't think he sent it to me yet But he is he's going you know completely. He's like this student body president He's the president of the the Phoenix Club all this stuff I don't know anything about these academic things, but he's literally inserting no agenda memes into The classes so good so he wants yeah, so he's like I want to become a consultant

57:04 Because that's really the only thing you can do with a BA in sustainability And then I want to bring into the vorac curry consulting group, and he's got stuff like yeah. Yeah There's this thing called Convincing writing I think it's called and so he has these ten points about Okay Is climate weather? You know all these all these he's gonna get kicked out of school before he complains That's what I tell him But it was just amazing people we've got out there. So thank you to our executive producers, our associate executive producers Also a big thanks to Martin JJ for the art on the previous episode and Mr Oil and Void Zero for setting us up with some kick-ass hosting and bandwidth for our episodes Please if you are currently subscribed through iTunes

57:52 Go to nashownotes.com or just 433 dot na shown us calm change your RSS your podcast feed to the new feed So you're not running through other people's infrastructure. We'd like to manage it as much as possible in case you're looking forward It's feed dot na show notes comm slash RSS XML, but it's listed everywhere You need to change that in case stuff goes away so you won't be disappointed Devorah org Slash and a man of course we appreciate what everyone does when they go out hit people in the mouth our formula is this we go out and

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Rare Snowfall in South Africa

Euronews reports on a rare cold snap in South Africa that brought snow to Johannesburg for only the 22nd time in 103 years. The event is contrasted with global warming narratives, noting how media outlets like NPR framed the weather as a human-interest story rather than a climatic anomaly.

south africa· johannesburg· snowfall· climate change· euronews

58:31 We hit people in the mouth. Thank you kid it's very warm here with the air conditioning off well I got a clip here about this weather climate it might be warm there but unreported news nobody is talking about this in the United States or any place else where they're pushing the various global warming memes play this one snow in Africa You know, Is this from NPR?

59:10 No, this is from Euronews. Oh okay, alright. We leave you with images of a rare site in South Africa as snow fell across the country The extreme cold snap hitting on Tuesday and causing a mixture of delight and bemusement in a country where many people have never seen a snowflake Johannesburg for example has seen only 22 days' snow in the last 103 years Yeah because NPR had this report we were listening in the car once we hit I-15 And I said, now we can finally get some NPR. Let's listen to what the Ministry of Truth is saying and they had this whole report about these two people who you know the guy had said in South Africa it said I'll marry you when it snows and of course it snowed So they made a human interest story? For like five minutes! About the dress and all this...and you know and I was waiting for the big payoff and we lost the station

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Hillary Clinton in South Africa and Nelson Mandela

Hillary Clinton's visit to South Africa is mocked, specifically a video of her dancing that the hosts find uncoordinated. The segment also touches on the "instant credibility" politicians seek by taking photographs with an aging Nelson Mandela, who is compared to the character Captain Pike from Star Trek.

hillary clinton· south africa· nelson mandela· photo op· diplomacy

59:59 So I'm sure that it was in there, but it was like five six minutes of snow and Africa Like I mean can you make it any more blatant? meanwhile Lucifer Hillary clippity-clop Clinton In South Africa. I mean who is who is in charge of her PR if you have not seen the videos of her dancing and actually popping the booty of this thing. Have you seen these clips, John? Yeah! It's on my blog. I think i sent you a link. I enhanced the audio And, uh... because you know it's not really interesting. To watch the video is one thing I mean it was like oh my god she should be shot for her rhythm Because she has no- She dances like a dyke! I'm sorry, she dances like a total Really? Yeah Like a total Well that's a stunner A coverall wearing dyke But we enhanced some of the audio just so you could enjoy here on the show I hope you liked that Took me at least 10 minutes of production

1:01:12 I've lost you. You didn't hear me? Hello now your volume went way down oh really hmm let me turn yeah i can turn you up here did so you didn't even hear my joke no idea i mean i all here was a clipping any clopping sound and then that well that's where i get it Wow, okay. It was so bad that you thought something was wrong with the connection Okay Yeah, but at least it wasn't two minutes of a train guy okay? This is just 30 seconds of flippity-clop oh Man alright by the way can I just say I got to discuss and he's gotta stay on the South Africa thing You know there's one thing we gotta do

1:02:00 If you want to have any credibility with the elites, if you want... It's like Nelson Mandela. He is like Captain Pike. Remember from Star Trek? Captain Pike was in his chair and he couldn't move and he was at Starfleet Command Yeah because he got zapped So that's Nelson Mandela And all you gotta do is just pop in and stand next him and wave and get a picture taken Instant credibility You and I need a photo op with Nelson Mandela And apparently you can just drop by Well, we gotta get there before too long. That's a long way to go. Yeah! Why don't you just get it cut out of him? Like your head on the stick exactly and Nelson Mandela had on his stick. Without the top of their head chopped off yeah so Eric was I mentioned this in the newsletter he got them in Washington State now if you have a well because you live in a well area need well

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Water Metering and Property Rights in Washington

New regulations in Washington State require the installation of $1,000 telemetric meters on private wells, limiting domestic water use to 500 gallons per day. This is framed as an extension of "Agenda 21" sustainability goals and a challenge to the traditional concept of land ownership.

agenda 21· water rights· well metering· washington state· property taxes

1:02:56 Which is your property, right? It's your property down to the... Not my property. No it's his. Whoever owns the property it's your property. Yeah if you have a property in Washington State and you drill a well now you have to meter it this all part of the Agenda 21 sustainability thing You have to meter it and you have to, not right away but then you're gonna have to pay for it. And the meter costs $1,000 dollars. It's one of those telemetric... E-meter? Yeah it's an e-meter. And then you have to pay for it now I got a bunch of notes because I wrote this up in the newsletter and somebody even Idaho says well this is the way has been in the West forever he goes on and on with they with a long story and in that he says something funny here it is

1:03:42 Domestic wells usually have, and he goes on about it's not that big of a deal. He says domestic wells usually have a limited per day that can be withdrawn 13000 gallons per day in Idaho for instance all other wells and surface wells finite volumes also why the big surprise? Yes, measuring every drop is rather draconian but that's the law. Wait a minute! So what next? You have air on your property we're gonna measure that air and charge you for the air. They could go with it but he says okay let me just come back to this I have to go back to Eric's material he sends a document there's a PDF explaining all this

1:04:22 And let me just read what they say. You can new permit exempt wells and sub-bases with reserves if you comply with the following conservation standard, single residence 500 gallons a day! It's a lot different than 13 thousand a day in Idaho! Five hundred a day? Yeah Is that a lot how much does a typical family use? That's...you'll be lucky it depends if you take a bunch of showers and you have something to water If you have a yard you might want to water your not gonna make it Right But the whole idea... I agree with you. You must install and maintain a water measuring device Well, I'm gonna tell the guy in Idaho who's you know he's one of our producers so i don't want to be too mean to him but yeah is why should cut yours down to 500 a day and then

1:05:08 then stop competing on anything. Hold on John, let's back up for a second so this is clearly we've had this conversation about your car and about your land This clearly shows that you do not own that land otherwise you wouldn't be paying real estate taxes You donot own this land! This is the elites pointing out to you hey slave you dont' own this land We own it So anything underneath there is ours What you build on top of that house? Okay That's yours And you don't own the land. It's that simple, and I think if we really dug into it and a lot of constitutional lawyers will tell you this... You do not own the land! Eric The Shield does not own the land that his well is on Only the top part He owns the pump mechanism maybe So there is also this thing with a lot of states and your in one of them I believe I think Colorado for sure You dont have access to rain water

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Rainwater Collection Restrictions and Sustainability

Washington State policy now dictates that rainwater can only be collected from rooftops of primary structures like houses or barns, rather than dedicated collection systems. The irony of strict water conservation measures in a naturally wet and "soaking" state is highlighted as a form of government overreach.

rainwater harvesting· washington state· sustainability· conservation· water policy

1:06:04 If you take a... in fact some guy just got busted. We do, we are more than allowed to use rain catches in Texas Well then Texas you better but the lot of states is you can't the rain water's not yours and I think California might be one of them and now in Washington same document That rain is not your slave say stop getting wet! I'm gonna give you a ticket A new state policy in Washington allows for the use of rooftop only Rainwater with certain conditions of use the rain water must be collected from the roof Constructed for another primary purpose such as a harsh house or barn if it in other words You can't just create a roof to collect rain

1:06:48 But if it's on top of a house, you can collect. You can have a barrel at the bottom of the drain and you can collect rain. And then it goes on, if he was gonna be used to drinking, you must comply with health department requirements provided these conditions... In other words, you can't have a special collector anywhere. You can have it only off the roof of your own house but in some places you can even do this. I mean this is ridiculous or what's ridiculous to me and what needs to be pointed out is this is Washington State. It's raining all the time, the ground is soaked! Not your rain! They don't need to do any conservation like they do in Texas. It's not your rain slave shut up! Not your rain not your water

1:07:32 You, you... the grass. Maybe you own the grass on top of it that's about it Anyway Eric was a little annoyed by this because of the thousand dollars he has to spend for this ridiculous meter Yeah but also has to pay for usage And he had to pay usage Oh man is the shill gonna roll over and take this or is he going to fight it? Come on! Is his shill just gonna be a little pussy boy or is he gonna fight this like a true Dvorak Yeah. Oh yeah, I shall fight it! I tell you Eric DeShill! Maybe not... Anyway so they have this big paper after paper that the snow watershed and in-stream flows and there's all these documents that are just about sustainability we can all die if we don't do this you know but it's a wet state it's soaking What else did I have on agenda 21? It was like oh yeah

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

NOAA Temperature Records and Insurance Premiums

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported July 2012 as the hottest month on record, but critics argue the data is flawed due to the placement of sensors near asphalt and changes in equipment paint. Additionally, heavy rains are being used by insurance companies as a justification to increase premiums.

noaa· global warming· temperature data· weather channel· insurance

1:08:30 July 2012 was the hottest month since records began. Did you see this? Yeah, yeah I'm sure that it's not true in Washington State. Well no but this comes from the NOAA The Oceanographic A-Holes Right But they're not using their... This is old data It's not from their 114 new stations that actually measure correctly So they're just using old data conveniently. Yeah, it was pointed out by the guy who owns The Weather Channel that when they put all these new thermometers in like a few years ago they changed the paint and the thermometers were all reading two or three degrees higher and they put them in areas where there's a lot of asphalt... It was a botch!

1:09:14 And so all of numbers go up. But here's how it's going to work... It's just a coincidence, this is still warming global warming is all over the place I mean you know and we have a bunch of listeners by the way are our warmest alarmist really and they bitch constantly right? They only bitch at you apparently I don't get any emails like that Well, they figure you're gonna kill him. So I have... before we go to the donation segment- Oh! We're not ready for donations yet? No, I was just saying before once you want a reminder that do have a letter i have to read of a guy who quit the show and in discussed okay all right well that happens Here's how it's going to work. Here is how weather as climate is going to be pushed onto you This is happening in Gitmo Nation lowlands Coming to you straight from the headlines Heavy rains increase insurance premiums Oh yes The number of damage claims due this summer heavy rain have shot up so much Insurance premiums will have to rise Is this how they're gonna do it? It's a good one No, its not a good one But I think it's what it is

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Mars Curiosity Rover Landing and Image Quality

The landing of the Curiosity rover on Mars is met with skepticism regarding the low-resolution, black-and-white images initially released by NASA. The hosts question why a multi-billion dollar project cannot immediately produce high-quality color photos and suggest the mission may be a public relations effort or a waste of resources.

mars rover· curiosity· nasa· high-resolution· space exploration

1:10:20 Okay, so another thing I didn't get to catch in real time But I was able to get a couple of couple of clips that just interested me So we had the Mars rover curiosity land Highly anticipated lots of 3d renderings and modeling and fantastic. And what do we get ladies and gentlemen? We get a bunch of low-res black and white pictures Are you effing kidding me? Are you really seriously now saying that we can- this thing, this stupid thing can tweet from Mars but we can't get a high resolution color picture? I thought they sent a color picture this morning. Of itself!

1:10:59 What? Yeah. Who cares of it's self, we got pictures of itself. Listen to these clips Is that an image were looking at? Oh wow! That is an image! There is your first image from the surface of Mars It's black and white looks like a studio From the Curiosity rover I can't see it because its all fake And you know John one of the things that really has to be said. You're saying it's a fisheye lens so you could be seeing them. What's that John? I was just gonna say when we get these images back, I didn't mean to cut off Joy because she was describing what we were seeing just then but

1:11:35 just how difficult this entire landing really was. So immediately back to the landing, how difficult? How complicated we got sky cranes we've got all kinds of amazing things but we're getting a black and white low-res image and we're orgasmic. They never tested this before You can see part of the wheel. No, that's absolutely right they had never done They tested every single... Right so then we have the big and this to me was like so obvious just like there's like putting it in my face because you know I don't believe any of this I think this whole thing is a stupid setup Listen to how the picture and again, we're just seeing pictures of its foot. Oh here's a wheel Yeah No The shadow is off to the left because We don't want any conspiracy theorists ie people who actually investigate stuff to see that this is a fake picture And she actually says it right here Actually, the view is as if it's tilted 45 degrees

1:12:31 So there's the full high rise image. Because of the roll of 41 degrees, we're now seeing part of the planetary curvature so that the image is a little skewed and this is what we call...we are calling it like a crime scene photo here. Yeah! It's like a crime scene photo yes! Of the lies you're propagating on me That's the crime scene photo And let's clap for the crime scenes We can see just all of the components of the whole EDL system. We don't care! we want to see Martians, we wanna see rocks, we wanna see green guys dudes walking around stop showing me this thing come on John why can't we send a high-res color picture

1:13:15 There's supposedly one coming in as we speak. One! It's like they put all this effort into it You know, I think if that thing is there like most people believe... I think it's a miracle that the thing isn't already so dusty because Mars sounds like a dust bowl to me That it's already fucked up the lens So you can get a decent picture This is a waste of money But I think maybe designed to be a waste of money so then just kill all these stuff Well, I think it's all PR for the new Schwarzenegger movie. You know what's a two and a half? Some people came in with that idea and I think... That's reasonable! Yeah it's reasonable but its not a Schwarzenegger movie It's the breed duo of the Schwarzenegger movie thats already bombed at the box office Its done The movie is done Oh really well then shows you what I know Let me just see here someone in chat room sending me a high res image Ok lets take a look

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Chick-fil-A Controversy and Chicken Offsets

The public controversy surrounding Chick-fil-A's leadership has led to the creation of "Chicken Offsets," a platform where customers can donate to pro-LGBTQ charities to compensate for eating at the restaurant. The entire situation is characterized as a massive and creative publicity stunt that has significantly boosted the chain's sales.

chick-fil-a· chicken offset· publicity stunt· homosexual defense· poultry prices

1:14:14 High-res image, let's see what do we see yeah of the thing again? It's it. It's like a you got you see this neat if Why does an egomaniac this machine why does it why doesn't have to show itself all the time? It's always showing its I'm looking good look at my wheels Come on man come on I'm sorry. You know, um you know what? I'm not saying that we don't... We have bases on Mars and the moon! I'm on that tip! Yeah you save us for the second half. No i got something better for the second half of this show So I've got a story thats not being covered much Except most of it is.. The basic stories being covered which is the Chick-fil-a publicity stunt Which is making these guys Most people never heard about this operation unless they live in the south Are you still on this thing?! And now everybody's heard about them

1:15:05 And so, and they're making money hand over fist. But this little does apparently you've heard of carbon offsets? Yes, I have. Well there's gonna be something that is even more interesting... Chicken Offsets! For those who love the chain's chicken sandwiches but who do not share the boss' ideas a lawyer has launched this site entitled Chicken Offset A platform offering to compensate each meal bought at Chick-fil-A with a donation to a homosexual defense charity The War on Chicken

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Zero Dark Thirty Trailer and Political Promotion

The trailer for the film *Zero Dark Thirty*, directed by the makers of *The Hurt Locker*, is analyzed as a promotional tool for President Obama's re-election. The film's focus on the hunt for Osama bin Laden is seen as benefiting from inside information provided by the Pentagon to polish the administration's image.

zero dark thirty· osama bin laden· barack obama· pentagon· movie trailer

1:15:44 Yeah, well as predicted the price of poultry is now skyrocketing of course because beef is tumbling. So I guess we just have got to have a bunch of chicken offsets. Why? Because we don't have enough chickens what's the problem? We don't have enough chickens! This is the biggest publicity stunt that I've ever seen and it was done in a negative way. I've never seen anything quite like this. It was very creative. You know, the makers of The Hurt Locker got all that inside information from the Pentagon to polish up and gussy up President Obama's image for the election. And they made this Osama Bin Laden movie which I think is called Dark Zero Never... what was it called?

1:16:33 Who cares? Anyway, so there was so much brouhaha about it. They said oh no Oh No We're going to release that in December But they've started the PR campaign big time releasing the trailer online Listened to the trip this is one minute and it's another f-16 It's always nice Holy crap I can feel that in my feet here That's a real good When you hear the audio, it's often better than... The video is nondescript but just listen to the audio of the trailer for the President Obama Is Awesome. Mission accomplished boys! God here we go. Hey Maverick slow down We're spending billions of dollars. We are still no closer to defeating our enemy 20 detainees recognize that photo No birth certificate, no cell phone You guys are ghosts

1:17:49 He's right in the inner circle. The whole world is gonna win on this I want targets When was the last time you saw Bin Laden? Oh my god, is that what you think it is Where was the last time you saw Bin Laden? So, you don't see any actors. This is all voice acting. This sounds like a total piece of crap! It's called Zero Dark Thirty is the name of it Oh great title that's Ike That's a catcher And zero dark thirty But its so obvious Of course we're not going to release this movie but this campaign has already started

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Gore Vidal Legacy and Political Commentary

Following the death of novelist and essayist Gore Vidal, his long-standing critiques of the American political system are reviewed. Vidal's 1968 assertion that there is no fundamental difference between the two major parties and his 2003 warnings of a slide into a militarized "police state" are highlighted as prescient.

gore vidal· socialism· corporate america· police state· despotism

1:18:36 Big BBC everyone's showing the trailer. There's interviews It's just like oh wow who needs to see the movie yeah, that movie might never come out go straight to DVD it's just a promote Obama Yeah, yeah I ran into You know Gore Vidal the famous essayist and novelist he died was he died now What did he write? That was so awesome He wrote a lot of stuff actually. Lincoln's biography was quite good, or Lincoln it was, Burr was famous he...he wrote a lot of huge bestsellers but his to me I never liked reading as long works but i always thought is one the greatest essayists that ever run into I mean just great at writing short well these essays were kinda long they ran around 2500 I always got him confused with Vidal Sassoon for some reason

1:19:26 Yeah, good reason. So anyway so he had a... He was always on it was just that mean-spirited guy on television who hated the right wingers especially William Buckley almost got into a fistfight with which would which was highly entertaining at all points and he had a very negative view of things but I've got two clips i want to play one uh... which says the circa this done around by think ninety eight actually part 1 is the the 2 clips He's the guy who coined a term which I kind of think is funny, which is that this system is essentially socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor.

1:20:04 And his real attitude is, combining these two clips. Play clip one. Who was this writer saying that American presidents are for sale and owned by corporate America? Yeah and they said you know the party of labor the Democrats the party the rich Republican there is not one single major politician today who does not repeat what I said in 68 But there is fundamentally no difference between the two parties. Did you like Aaron Burr? Wait a minute! He was doing No Agenda back in the 90s?! 68. Oh my god, 68's when he said that. But what you missed dude, what you stepped on is that Rose immediately changes the subject. I heard it Yeah, he says... What do you think of Bill French or something? Rose is an idiot

1:20:54 And so, but yeah in 68 he said that and which a lot of people picked up on it's pretty obvious It's true. But then he now this was done in 2003 He's got such a bad attitude over the decades that this is what he says now We have a fascinating history we have one that was an inspiration to the whole world for a century or two were now regarded as a sort of joke nation has turned violent maybe gone crazy and we are held in low regard around the world. Do you think that a different leadership can change that? In fatalistic moments, and these are fatalistic times I don't think we can change now. I think we're committed to... You think we're on a steep slide into what? Well despotism Despotism of police state A militarized economy

1:21:50 Army is marching into other countries because the president has an intuition that a terrorist might be living On many countries Broadway. Yes, there's gonna be more and more of this and no one will do anything to stop I got a song for a Gore Vidal here or a second as great militarized economy That's perfect. Oh shit. I'm gonna get it I was gonna play something, but YouTube of course gives me an ad. YouTube is suck... Yeah it's like... Let me see if i can get it now. Yoo-hoo! Gormadall! And here we go everybody Well he's of course right. Yeah I know that's what so funny So is um can I ask you a personal question?

1:22:49 Sure. Have you modeled some of your own stylings after Gore Vidal? Is he like a hero to you? I never thought about it, I mean i've always thought that he...I've always enjoyed his essays but I can't write like he does He has this really unusual style so I never really paid much attention to that But I have always admired his commentary because he's an extreme progressive left winger in many ways. But he's like, you know a lot of these they wrap around the left of the extreme sides of everything wrap around to come up with the same conclusions and it that you can be a left-winger or right-winger and you can still see that we have a despotism going on but if you push toward the center you don't see it so much as though you have Fox News for example

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

MSNBC Coverage of Mitt Romney's Grocery List

An MSNBC segment mocking Mitt Romney for purchasing Greek yogurt and caffeine-free Diet Coke is criticized as elitist and trivial. The hosts defend Greek yogurt as a quality product and use the segment to illustrate the perceived vapidity of mainstream cable news coverage during the election cycle.

msnbc· mitt romney· greek yogurt· election cycle· media bias

1:23:39 It's not possible. No, it's a two-party system vote Republican or these idiots at MSNBC in fact the idiots at MSNBC I have a clip I am Miss NBC on this is a woman who took over she's on O'Donnell show so she takes over and She's got what she thinks is the funniest thing to talk about they only have the beginning of her introducing it She thinks It's so funny that they have Mitt Romney's They apparently followed him to some store someplace, and he bought some cola and some yogurt And she just things. That's a riot because she's never heard of Greek yogurt, and that's what he has on his list Oh

1:24:17 Mitz grocery list. And Jonathan prepare a response because I'm going to ask you about this too. What was on it? Caffeine free diet coke, wild cherry diet Pepsi native sweet corn bottled water and my favorite Greek yogurt. Is Greek yogurt the arugula of this election cycle? Die bitch! Give her douchebag. Big time. It's like this is what, this is MSNBC and by the way there has been a huge push. I first saw this about five years ago at one of the fancy food shows when we had the deli running and Greek yogurt was doing a big promotion and they came in with a bunch of, there are about three or four brands

1:25:05 ends of it now and all it is a strained yogurt. It's much thicker than the... And it doesn't have all those additives, and its actually quite a good product. Yeah, it's great yogurt! She thinks this like some hoity-toity weird thing because she does eat at Burger King. Hey goose!! Anyway, so I find it. I found it very offensive so what the so my goodness You know they everyone there right? So can we scramble some jets? I think guys doing the show down there with the show yeah Yeah, and by the way is highlighting any jet that goes oh cool. Let me can I suit up? Yeah, can I suit up? So what the media should be worried about is

1:25:53 Is I'll give you the bill number because this is of course it's not being talked about it. It is now in the Senate Here we go what they have a short name for it, this is Well, it's a part of the I'm sorry hold on a second. It's a part of the intelligence authorization Act And of course this douche knuckle woman who's laughing about Greek yogurt is ignoring what's really going on. The Intelligence Authorization Act, Title 5 preventing unauthorized disclosures of classified information So this is the anti-anti-anti super anti whistleblower legislation that has now been passed through or will soon be voted on in the Senate

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Intelligence Authorization Act and Whistleblower Restrictions

Title 5 of the Intelligence Authorization Act is identified as aggressive anti-whistleblower legislation that criminalizes the disclosure of classified information to media personnel. The act includes provisions for expanded polygraph testing for government employees and contractors to prevent leaks, which the hosts argue targets transparency.

intelligence authorization act· whistleblowers· classified information· polygraph· media

1:25:05 ends of it now and all it is a strained yogurt. It's much thicker than the... And it doesn't have all those additives, and its actually quite a good product. Yeah, it's great yogurt! She thinks this like some hoity-toity weird thing because she does eat at Burger King. Hey goose!! Anyway, so I find it. I found it very offensive so what the so my goodness You know they everyone there right? So can we scramble some jets? I think guys doing the show down there with the show yeah Yeah, and by the way is highlighting any jet that goes oh cool. Let me can I suit up? Yeah, can I suit up? So what the media should be worried about is

1:25:53 Is I'll give you the bill number because this is of course it's not being talked about it. It is now in the Senate Here we go what they have a short name for it, this is Well, it's a part of the I'm sorry hold on a second. It's a part of the intelligence authorization Act And of course this douche knuckle woman who's laughing about Greek yogurt is ignoring what's really going on. The Intelligence Authorization Act, Title 5 preventing unauthorized disclosures of classified information So this is the anti-anti-anti super anti whistleblower legislation that has now been passed through or will soon be voted on in the Senate

1:26:46 and I pulled a couple of relevant quotes. It specifically highlights the passing on of classified information, and the persons or entities described are the following two types of people 1. Media personnel including any person or entity under contract to other binding agreement with the media to provide analysis for commentary so it will be a federal offense to give them any information or any person or entity if the disclosure described in subsection A is made with the intent or knowledge that such information will be made publicly available. What they of course don't describe as a person who you may not give classified information too, is people who work on Wall Street

1:27:32 Because of course we've got to keep our insider trading all working perfectly. So how are they going to do this? How are they going to make sure that the classified information is not being passed on well, The Director of National Intelligence Assessment not later than 120 days after the date of enactment of this act will set up the following... The practical feasibility of extending the use of polygraph In addition to executive branch personnel standardizing the questions used during polygraph examinations regarding disclosure of classified information and contact with the media. You're going to be put on a lie detector you stupid Greek yogurt bitch! That's what your government is doing to you while you're laughing The whole Title 5 is all about

1:28:22 I mean, any officer or employee... Well this administration has been number one against whistleblowers. Yeah Because they're up to no good! That's the reason Even The New York Times wrote an op-ed saying well you know we messed up on the weapons of mass destruction but we found out eventually through people who leaked information Whistleblowers A person who is not allowed to pass on any type of classified information is an officer, employee or contractor of the federal government who possesses an active security clearance which is millions of people I might add. Any member of an advisory board to an element of the intelligence community who possesses an active security clearance or any former officer, employee or contractor of the federal government or former member of an advisory board To an element of the intelligence community up to three years after you've left

1:29:14 You can you can be go to jail people there are people in our audience who are now if this passes We'll go to jail of the if they ever find out what they've told me Of course, I'm not really considered media because I don't think do we qualify another classification. Do you think John? crackpot and buzzkill Are we media personnel is that or could we be described as media personnel? I think it could legally yes easily hmm So for instance, let me give you some information I picked up here at Hill Air Force Base. What operating system does the air traffic control system run on? Windows. Windows CE! Oh no! Oh yes! Windows CE?! Are you kidding me!? Nope

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Military Technology and Windows Operating Systems

Claims are made that critical military infrastructure, including air traffic control systems at Hill Air Force Base and certain drone operations, run on Windows CE or other Microsoft operating systems. This reliance on commercial software is cited as a potential vulnerability for the military-industrial complex.

windows ce· air traffic control· drones· hill air force base· military industrial complex

1:30:05 They must have access to the source code and tweaked it. I keep telling you that the whole military industrial complex runs on Windows, you have to believe me when i say the aircraft everything's running on windows! I know a couple of ships have literally... The systems have crashed on these ships they're dead in the water. Window CE ladies and gentlemen. You gotta love it So what are the drones running on? These are running on Windows John. I'm telling you the drones are running at Windows oops Sorry, Metro didn't install properly We got the slide over the big red tile to the right I can fire. I can't find my start button anymore so we had Before we get to our donation segment. We had another drone attract a drone attack in Yemen and

1:30:55 51 dead, but of course there was some suicide blast involved there. So we've updated the kill list, killlist.curry.com and if you have not seen the video please hurry to the show notes 433.nashownotes.com check under drone nation to see video of the Army's giant spy blimp over New Jersey! You have really? You have seen this have you not? No, no you got me on that one I don't know what it is Oh my goodness hold on a second let me give you a link right now I'll give you a handy link. How do i do this? Which way should I make it? Should I make it... Blimp, I'll make it oops! I can do this You could probably google it faster than I can look at army blimp over New Jersey It's hilarious You can also go to here we go blimp

1:31:59 Oh, yeah there. No that's not it go to blimp curry calm I just set it up for you give it one second to propagate should be one more second Yeah Blimp curry calm and you'll see the video oh That thing so that thing yeah, why is it? Why they make it look like something from a Flash Gordon movie well Does it be a normal blend what's got the two rockets in the back for it kind of looks like a flying squirrel doesn't It does that actually there's that element. Oh boy you just started healing I should never give you videos to watch because you go to helium mode Yeah, you shouldn't give me videos to watch is he gonna shake out or shall we reconnect? It's funny momentarily Actually your voice now matches your new Skype picture

1:33:02 Nice like that all right call me back reconnect me call me back. Call me back Yes, the joys of doing the show on the road Which we are doing all for your enjoyment by the way your feedback will help us make Skype better Your feedback will help us Mike's make Skype better I'm just gonna do very bad Yeah, he crapped out. There's no reason for that just get- Hold on you're still- Still crappy? You're still helium Why don't you call me this time and there will be different routing Okay bye Okay...uh..call Skype That's annoying He might have to reboot his Skype or something I dunno what's going on Okay Man it's stil- Is that better? Talk Talk talk talk No It still- Still sucks?! Yeah! Your still high pitched

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

DHS "See Something, Say Something" Propaganda Video

A Department of Homeland Security grant funded a six-minute video for the Houston Police Department encouraging citizens to report suspicious behavior, such as wearing bulky clothing or asking about train schedules. The video is criticized for instilling unnecessary fear regarding improvised explosive devices (IEDs) in the United States.

department of homeland security· ied· surveillance· propaganda· houston

1:34:03 That's weird. It doesn't make any sense Maybe you have to like Restart Skype? Yeah, quit Skype yeah quit Skype and I'll play something for the slaves Okay You quit Skype and start up And i'll play something what I'm going to play for you is a propaganda video from the Department of Homeland Security provided under a department of Homeland security grant To the police department of Houston about IEDs Across the country, millions of people are working, shopping, traveling attending sporting events concerts shows and schools. They are enjoying the American way of life Freedom may be at the heart America but some other things that make the country great also make it a target for those who want to hurt us Our federal state and local governments are working hard to keep us safe But we all play a role in securing our public spaces

1:35:11 and we are counting on you to do your part. Pay attention, be aware! If you witness something that seems suspicious don't rely on others to take action if you see something Say something. The biggest man-made threat to our public spaces are improvised explosive devices or IEDs. IED's are often small and easily transportable with catastrophic effects Hey, that's strange This guy just walked up to that table put a red bag down and then

1:35:55 walked away and left the bag. Hey citizen! If you see someone leave a bag or package, don't touch it. Report it. Intentionally leaving bags or packages in public spaces is a potential threat and action must be taken. Say something say something Make the call. Make the call citizen! No one can hear- Cameras and recording devices have gotten so small that most of us seem to have one with us all the time It's not unusual to see people taking pictures or videos almost anywhere Are you in the back? Yeah, I'm back. No that's better listen to this for a second yeah This is uh ieds in Texas the Department of Homeland Security video we're right in the middle of it We're having a good time what surveillance and information gathering Is a common practice used by terrorists prior to an attack if you see someone trying to conceal what they are doing taking pictures of exits security or restricted areas

1:36:51 If they hang around for no apparent reason, ask inappropriate questions about schedules or the facility... Hey citizen! What time's the train coming? Why are you asking about the train schedule citizen?! Or if they try and avoid security when approached. Make The Call. Make The Call to NoAgendaShow.com Citizen This is like a six minute video Wait a minute. Hold on a second how many IEDs have been ignited here in the United States of America? Exactly citizen because we've been vigilant there have been no It's about right a grant of the Department of Homeland Security it's a six-minute video from Texas and it's all about actually I should just play the jingle It's unbelievable

1:37:45 It's like, be vigilant. Be alert! Someone is taking pictures talking about the train schedule Go and get him! Yeah guy went on this train nuts Listen to the music though it's great But people always dress for the season. This is great! If you see someone wearing heavy or bulky clothing, that is obviously wrong for the time of year. Carrying suspicious bags or acting extremely nervous They may be carrying explosives or weapons. Hey citizen your jacket sucks

1:38:24 Don't be a hero. Don't be a hero try to place a solid physical object between you and the threat like your mother-in-law The threat oh I'm crying when I hear this, I'm crying I cry for America stay low to the ground and call security or the police immediately It's imagine you got a windy chilly put a winter coat on people drop into the ground crawling around Hey man, you might be concealing an IED. This is pathetic! This Homeland Security operation is ruining this country You have to see this video though and please don't look for it because it'll make you all helium again I gotta look for it But uh... It is highly produced John They spent the money Oh yeah

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

Security Measures and Public Surveillance Narratives

The expansion of security measures, including full-body scanners at the Alameda County Fair, is attributed to Homeland Security grants. The hosts argue that the narrative of "massive attacks" and "vulnerability" is used to justify intrusive surveillance and the erosion of public trust, despite a lack of domestic IED incidents.

body scanners· alameda county fair· homeland security· surveillance· terrorism

1:39:10 Hmm several hundred thousand dollars at least they should be ashamed of themselves There was this really sketchy guy walking in the student center building. He looked like he was wearing something under his jacket Like a catheter You have been so good all day long many of us work visit or live insecure buildings with multiple entrances and exits This voiceover guy He's got a great tone. Many of us work in secure buildings with many entrances and exits! I mean, he instills fear in you... Although these buildings feel secure we are all often guilty of letting people in when we shouldn't. Hey man, lost my keys This may seem like the nice thing to do

1:40:05 But people trying to gain access to buildings without permission or credentials are suspicious. If you see someone, somewhere they don't belong... make the call! Make the call. It may be nothing but some guy just snuck in behind me at my apartment building. Maybe not- well that's a good call to make. Hey some creep walked in behind me of course you gotta call about that People try and sneak all kinds of things into small and large venues. Ticket takers and security staff are there to stop illegal, prohibited and suspicious items... Get ready for the body scanners! ...from getting through the door. Big crowds and open access events can make security challenging And terrorists know it. What? We had a- we went to the county fair

1:40:53 in Alameda County Fair and it's a Pleasanton. And they had full body scanners and pat-downs to get into the fairgrounds, yes! And I asked about it and they said was a Homeland Security grant that gave him all his money to buy this crap. Oh, did you go through it? Yeah, I went through. It's a magnetometer. I don't care about those. No but still isn't that some weird- You didn't have the x-ray machine yet? No the X-Ray Machine will be coming you watch. These are prime targets for massive attacks. Massive attacks! Terrorists may use trucks vans or cars to conduct surveillance

1:41:30 or detonate an explosive device. Now in this video... How many explosive devices have gone off in the United States population of 300 million people, in the last 10 years? I mean how many IEDs from a terrorist have gone off they've gone off in the Middle East they go off all time because again they have actually what they do they go find those minefields and then they grab their explosives they fight to find a mind and then they disassemble it and create an IED that's where Our explosives are what are being used to do this. We don't have a lot of minefields in the United States that I know of, that people can go steal the little explosive device and the trigger So how many of these has been going on last 10 years? Last 50 years! Last 100 years How many IED's have been detonated in the United States? Great question That's not a great question Report vehicles that are left intentionally

1:42:22 Parked in prohibited areas or are left sitting unattended for long periods of time. Listen, they actually have an explosion in the video It didn't feel real though Here it comes Don't ignore your instincts Vehicles parked where they don't belong are a potential threat Make the call before its too late The threat is real We are vulnerable WE ARE PUSSIES Wow, that's a comic comes to keeping our public spaces safe. We are all in this together You have the power to make a difference. Why don't you call the police? I'm gonna get our waitress What'd you call the police? I'm gonna get the waitress. Yeah What's he gonna call it police about because it Terrorist wants to blow up the restaurant. I mean play my guy forgot his bag on the chair Oh

1:43:24 I meant the voice character to have gone away. He forgot his bag on the chair and they're gonna call the police? Uh-huh, be aware How many chair bombs and bag bombs have gone off in restaurants in United States in last 50 years Do I have to play any The Great Question again or can I just go on? Nah never mind It's almost over If you see something say something I'm happy. Make the call, make the call! America a happy place where terrorists have no chance because we see something and we say something ladies and gentlemen don't you love America?

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

Listener Criticism and the "Obama Bot" Response

A lengthy email from a disgruntled listener who decided to "unsubscribe" is read and deconstructed. The listener accused the hosts of being uninformed and biased against the Obama administration, specifically citing their commentary on Hillary Clinton and the London Olympics opening ceremony.

listener feedback· barack obama· hillary clinton· olympics· media criticism

1:44:11 You gotta see that video. Yeah, you got to send me a link to it. But I'm not now because otherwise you're gonna go helium again. No, I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda! Imagine all the people who could do that? Oh yeah, that'd be fab! I do have a letter to read. I'll read it after i go through some of these donations Oh, I thought you were going to start with that? Thought It would be fun. I can start with it! Let's start with it. I started listening to Sunday's podcast but no sooner did you guys get going by the way this came from uh...I guess he has been listening for awhile on and off used to read my columns I think

1:44:47 I looked him up of course as i would do because we have databases about everybody because we're looking for terrorists. You're like the Mormons. And uh... He's got a database! The guys never donated a nickel, so let's get started with that but you know this reminds me when I was at PC Magazine still at PC magazine but when it was a real magazine being published as a magazine you always write something and irk someone and they always write I'm canceling my subscription. Oh, well no but this is exactly it's a fractal John because sometimes i'll get an email and its like im unsubscribing from your podcast It's the same thing Im cancelling my subscription, im unsubscribing from the podcast Yeah Same guy

1:45:34 Yeah, same guy. And of course the guy was never a subscriber to begin with but that's okay That's the joke of it yeah seems that all you guys do now is either bash the president or name-call The Secretary of State or rant against some progressive government official Lisa Jackson ring a bell? Uh...yeah She's a douche bag! By the way she is and by the way the President Who are supposed to you know we are? Critics, and we're here any of that. We did the same thing when Bush was in office Yeah, and more for well at more maybe yeah anyway So he's going on and on about this well your buncher You know rule or don't skip over anything I want a savor this all the good details Okay, but they had good details are coming up without read so you get tired everything I'll jump to with The goods okay if I wasn't sure it's where I was listening to rush limbaugh okay hold on a second

1:46:28 Please! Alright, keep going. Come on you guys are better than that. When I first listened to the show it was more about the injustices played upon us all by the likes of Big Pharma and Monsanto or the regrettable stuff going on post-earthquake Haiti If you truly do not have an agenda how come we don't hear you discussing topics like the poor work Congress is doing. Obstructionist Republicans, anyone? Excuse me did we not just talk about what idiots the Republicans are for passing this entire bill which is about... He only hears bad things about his buddies the Democrats Why should I even be defending it? Okay keep going

1:47:11 your lack of job creation greedy offshoring mega corporations maybe or the increasing incoming inequality amongst Americans those in charge making rules that mostly benefit themselves yeah instead we have to hear again about the four-word cherry pick quote from the president which was taken totally out of context by the Romney campaign and Fox News. So he's talking about you didn't build that, and all I did was talk about a guy who was repairing the car? That's the only time we discussed that? The only time we discussed that?!

1:47:49 Why am I defending? You didn't build that about the guy who was repairing my power steering pump and he said he thought the president's gonna pop out of it. That's right, dude! That's the only time... That's funny. It's fine you're obviously doing it all the time And you guys all you do is rehash frankly Fox News he says Frankly you sounded foolish Foolish and uninformed Sikhs are Semites So here we go Now this is the one that got me. This shows you how clueless this guy is because you remember this and by the way, BTW, listening to your description of the Olympic opening ceremony regarding the Queen's appearance it was obvious that you didn't really watch the proceedings The queen wasn't pushed out of the plane she jumped! It was gag

1:48:39 Yes, the Queen was in on the gag and she would be escorted to the ceremony by James Bond. And that they would both jump from the plane down to the stadium Yeah it was pretty funny if you understood what was going on but you didn't so you just came off sounding foolish and uninformed again Idiots! You stupid idiots I'm unsubscribing from the podcast So meanwhile, of course my description was... By the way nobody ever saw I jump out and she wasn't in the plane. It was a fake. Hey hey hey don't defend it! Stop defending stop defending My thing was that mine joke was the gag not this piece of shit they showed on this thing but this idiot thinks I didn't see it or get it John you didn't get it man Read the rest of his letter in a drunk voice

1:49:29 I started listening to No Agenda because a long time reader of your tech columns, I respected your opinion advice and expert knowledge. I really liked the show early on enough to have donated at least once we can't find it. I've been back and forth to a couple times over the years back and forth in other words he doesn't listen all the time hoping I would hear you guys getting back to what made this show worth listening too. But to no avail, I enjoy reading your IT comms and will continue to do so. BUT I WON'T BE LISTENING TO NO AGENDA ANYMORE! Praying that I get the subtle feeling from your comments and attitude recently you're souring on all of Adam's antics. Antic?

1:50:10 This Hot Pocket is a tour thing, not to mention the crackpot conspiracy theories like his theory on the Batman movie shooting. Oh brother! Perhaps it's time for you to move on and away from such nonsense Get a new partner I hear Molly Wood's available He likes it. Yeah, well anyway that's it so he's quit the show because he's irked with us and of course we make you know We do reread it like that and of course It sounds like we're douchebags but the fact is it's annoying I mean if you don't like to show Don't listen to this show You don't have these notes are useless yeah But John here's what I find sometimes And you know this sometimes also I'll reply to them letter

1:50:51 And nine times out of ten, after maybe a few back and forths the person will say hey man I'm really sorry. I was an idiot. I was drunk or my wife left me or you know i just got fired from my job and I felt really crap... People take it out on public people. I think that's true to some extent but this guy is Obama bot obviously he doesn't like us making fun of Hillary in particular. And why? I have no idea why anybody can't see through this bullcrap, but that's okay. We do have listeners who do see through it and they help us continue the show. It's even stereophonic! My Hillary dancing...

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Gary Johnson and the Commission on Presidential Debates

A request for "karma" is made for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson in hopes that he will be included in the presidential debates. The segment concludes with the formal "knighting" of Jason Schrader for his significant financial contribution to the show's value-for-value model.

gary johnson· presidential debates· third party· knight· value for value

2:02:39 Adam John thanks for the on-show nighting following the live nighting in Louisville on Thursday night at the Louisville Rex Since you didn't end up reading my email and yesterday's show which is no big deal I'd like to humbly request that you send some karma in the form of hey citizen karma in the morning to Gary Johnson In the hope that the douchebags that run The Democratic-Republican controlled commission on presidential debates allow him to be in the presidential debates. The American people need to see that their choice this November is not binary, despite the endless insistence by mainstream media idiots that we must choose between the black Democrat who wants to kill everyone and a white Republican who wants to kill everyone!

2:03:17 No, thanks very much sir Devon and get mo nation central command north so we'll send that karma What do you want? Hey citizen karma in the morning here. We go hey citizen You've got Karma And that'll do it. I think we have another... Well, for the meetup schedule, itm.im slash tour09 Definitely subscribe to the newsletter Pictures and more meet up information coming on that as well Now you should wrap it up and tell people where to go

2:03:56 Well, you know everyone should help us continue this project at Dvorak.org slash NA is a good place to start also noagendashow.com noagenanation.com there's donate buttons there and channeldvorak.com slash na in an emergency if you can't get on dvorak.org slash na and that'll be want to thank everybody who donated to produce the show and the regular donors, and also the lesser donors. And the subscribers we still need more 1212 subscribers to celebrate 1212 coming up. Yeah! We appreciate you believing in our value for value model it keeps us literally on the road during the hot summer months.

2:04:41 Adam Duke congratulates himself on his birthday. Josh Vits, of course happy birthday to his son Chris who turned 15... who turns 15 today and is at the top of the wish list was a de-douching Noah Genlecarmo very happy to have the young human resources onboard Stephanie Stinson says Happy Birthday to her boyfriend Matt Fuller and Bill Saturno congratulates Larry in Westbury Connecticut who celebrated his birthday yesterday Happy Birthday here from all your buddies at The Best Podcast In The Universe And we've got of course our knight, our instant knight John Jason Schrader who if you could just pull out your blade there and we could... Okay here it is. Yeah perfect. Jason Schrader step forward my friend! We are happy to have you on board

2:05:30 The Knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable, thank you so much for your instant night donation of $1,000 or more in support of our Value For Value model. Therefore we proudly pronounce thee Sir Jason Schrader Knights Of The Noah Jenner Roundtable! For you sir hot pants and booze wenches and beer hookers and blow rim poise and chardonnay Or if you want some... If you wanna bong it It's all here Cause that what we do as knights at the Noah Jenner round table Thank You once again We look forward to more nights before we round out our night program with the rings at the end of the year and start moving in. Yeah, but the night program will continue... Oh no! The night program continues yes I ran into someone saying that they thought were canceling the whole thing oh no no no no no no that's wrong

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Gardasil Vaccine and Non-Sexual HPV Transmission

A new study from McGill University suggests that HPV can be transmitted through non-sexual contact, such as hand-to-genital contact, leading to calls for broader vaccination. In contrast, Finland has reportedly removed the HPV vaccine from its budget following concerns over side effects like narcolepsy.

gardasil· hpv· mcgill university· finland· vaccine

2:06:15 Hey, fascinating stories. I hope that douchebag who sent you that note is listening because of course he never talks about... Once we mention Obama or Hillary, probably that Hillary joke, he turned out. Because one of my favorite Big Pharma stories is the hoax known as Gardasil And of course we've been through, we started with women and then it was girls and then it was boys. Now this is the story coming out ladies and gentlemen in case you didn't know it the sexually transmitted disease known as HPV or in the United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East HPV

2:06:58 Here's the headline, you don't need to have sex to get HPV. Oh brother! Yes Actually that you can walk around That was we already pointed this out when we talked about these shoes coming off at the airport Well there's a new study and of course I tried to To get the actual study itself done by Eduardo Franco He said the cancer epidemology department at McGill University. I can't get the study because you have to be a member of like METI something or other, you know? You have to pay $400 dollars a month

2:07:35 to get the study. But just read from this little study shows article here, even girls who have not had sexual intercourse are at risk for infection with HPV a new study shows in the study which involved teen girls and young women 11 point six percent of those who had never had sexual intercourse were infected with at least one strain of HPV Which, by the way might not even be the one that you get the shot for. But that's neither here nor there. That's beside the point HPV is a sexually transmitted disease that is most commonly passed between people during vaginal or anal intercourse but it can also be transmitted through genital to genital or hand-to-genital contact which is how the participants in this likely study likely got the virus

2:08:18 So because you peed and you touched your penis, and you shook someone's hand... You gave them HPV! So it is not enough to be vaccinating. Now we have to... Are you a virgin? Time for your shot! This is... It makes me mad Meanwhile I will say that in Finland where of course they were the ministry of truth there for some reason let it slip by girls were actually getting very, very ill and I guess narcolepsy cropped up. They have now scraped HPV vaccine from the budget! Very good! Very, very good there Finland! Very smart! And by the way if you look at the list of what countries do good medical in terms of service, healthiest public and all the rest, Finlands right at the top there. There are better off than we are

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

CDC Swine Flu Vaccine Preparations

The CDC has announced a new outbreak of the H3N2 swine flu virus, with major media outlets reporting on the development. Simultaneously, the agency is preparing a candidate vaccine and planning clinical trials for later in the year, a move the hosts view with skepticism.

cdc· swine flu· h3n2· vaccine· clinical trials

2:09:12 Yeah, because their government doesn't sell out the public. No! No they don't I mean they freeze them to death and give them no sunlight but otherwise it's beautiful up there in Finland And good news everybody CDC reports new swine flu outbreak That's right. Which is good news for us because we get to use the jingle! This is the H3N2 swine flu virus and they cite many, many publications The New York Times Washington Post CNN Los Angeles Times USA Today reporting on the brand new swine flu but good news citizen The CDC is preparing a swine flu vaccine this is good news no worries

2:10:01 We have a candidate vaccine, clinical trials are planned for this year. You can't make it up! You just can't make it up but I love it. There's so much money to be made. It really is quite outrageous. A couple of bankster news... It looks like this LIBOR thing, which we latched onto pretty early is... This may become the thing that unravels it all. I'm seeing reports everywhere of banks now suing each other and everyone's pointing the finger and blaming but there are a lot of lawsuits And i think you know we're only hearing about just a little bit

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LIBOR Scandal and Standard Chartered Allegations

The LIBOR manipulation scandal continues to expand as banks begin suing one another over derivative losses. Meanwhile, Standard Chartered is accused of laundering billions for the Iranian government, which some suggest may be a tactic to lower the bank's stock price for a potential takeover.

libor· standard chartered· iran· ben bernanke· federal reserve

2:10:45 uh... but there's tons of reports about you know ubs says suing doyche doyche suing as a hsbc and they are and this is not about you know half-a-billion dollars in fines is about actual derivatives in the trillions that unraveling is really uh... really quite interesting and the war is on um... i guess there was a at big war against this uh... Bank called standard chartered I don't know, have you done a Dvorak Horowitz show recently? Yeah yeah we did one this week. Did you guys talk about this? About standard charter? So... Yeah I recommend people take a listen to it. So ummm..I picked up this little nugget from Bloomberg which kind of explains why now what happened is Standard Charter maybe you can explain better than i can John they're being accused of whitewashing billions of dollars to the Iranian government correct

2:11:43 Yeah, yeah. So they're financing terrorists! Terrorists I tell you! Well so here's what really going on... Certainly doesn't come at a good time for Standard Chartered given that they were just announcing such positive growth Right they have been the storybook bank over the past bunch of years people are envious of them They've always been considered takeover target because Great franchise in all these growing economies around the world the few remaining growing economies in the world So yeah, it is a real blow or we'll turn about for them sounds to me like someone wanted to buy him and the price was just too high that could be and just throw out some terrorism crap That's that's a possibility because good one. I like it The price was down like 10% or something It's just boom their stocks were down and funny though as well There was also maybe kicked out of the USA this is the real reason

2:12:34 There was also a clip of the CEO. You can't make this guy up. Just last week, Asia's CEO of Standard Chartered Jaspal Bindra was here in our newsroom talking still basking in the glory of the successful earnings of Standard Chartered so before we talk about this latest chapter let's roll a bite from him Well we've remained quite consistent with our strategy over a long period He has got the turban he has got the beard he's got the whole thing going on What? You're talking to... Go on. Never mind, you're not listening you're talking to JC No I'm listening no i'm not i'm listening the guy's got such a thick Indian accent that yeah you know I think he's maybe a patsy Ben Bernanke who is the head of the Federal Reserve our central bank here and of the world Central Bank of the World Why is there a central bank John? What was the main why was the central bank created The federal reserve as a central bank why was that created

2:13:34 To protect the interests of the super wealthy so they wouldn't end up losing all their money to the ups and downs in a free market? Yeah, what's the... I mean seriously. What is the historical reason because he mentions it in this clip But I wasn't, you know... Well the way when it was put together in 1913 or whenever. It was like we had supposedly such a financial system that was going up and down and there were all these crashes and panics and the country was known for them, even though they really didn't begin until about 1857. But they really started going in a heavy duty way and they decided that they can control the money supply if they had a central bank and that would be able to regulate the ups and downs of the stock market. Okay, that was a really convoluted answer. Ben Bernanke has a really short answer and we can use this in the future?

2:14:36 Another issue related to financial markets is that unlike most industries, financial markets are prone to runs. That is if people lose confidence in a particular institution or even in a broad set of institutions and they are providing short-term deposits for short term funding to those institutions they have an incentive to run and pull out their money as quickly as possible And if everybody does that It's like everybody running for the exit in a crowded theater. Then, you know nobody is better off what happens is that you create huge stress on the financial system and trying to address the problem of runs and instability is in fact why The Federal Reserve was created almost 100 years ago There ya go because I've got the runs

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

ABC News "Connecting the Dots" House Ad

An ABC News promotional advertisement promising to "make sense of it all" and "connect the dots" for viewers is played. The hosts mock the ad's tone and suggest that the No Agenda Show is the actual source for breaking down complex information and providing understanding.

abc news· media marketing· connecting the dots· house ad· information overload

2:15:21 Crisis. What I said! To provide support for the financial system during periods of crisis That's it, to provide for the financial system during periods of crisis So can they just go on vacation after the crisis is over or not necessary anymore? No they have to be vigilant They have to be there constantly watching They have to make the call Make the call And there's a call coming in Right on cue Alright, I've got a little clip that's a little off the wall play. You know you know the show Accomplishes various things but I think we're gonna lose out to ABC play their new house ad one second Yeah, so wait set that up for me again. I was distracted

2:16:11 I want to answer the phone. ABC House Ad, play it! We know how it feels right now there's so much information coming at us It's almost dizzying But what if there was one place committed to making sense of it all? Committed to connecting the dots for you. Breaking things down, not just talking at you but making things clear less confusion more understanding That's the promise every day of ABC News Watch and you'll see the whole picture That's great. Isn't that a great house ad over done? We should do that, we break it down! There is only one source you need... No Agenda Show I think we can take that and just add our name to the end Let me see how that works let me see if if sounds any good and try it We know how it feels right now there so much information coming at us It's almost dizzying But what if there was one place committed to making sense of all Committed to connecting the dots for you

2:17:21 Breaking things down, not just talking at you. But making things clear less confusion more understanding That's the promise every day of ABC News Watch and you'll see the whole picture I think we have a winner By the way, just drop our thing right in there. Boom I think we just got a note from Miss Mickey I know we don't want to do premiums but she's getting a lot of messages people would like to donate And maybe this is one of our producers can set this up they'd like to order John C. Dvorak on a stick Apparently the JCD head-on-a-stick is a big hit have you seen some of these pictures

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Barry Sonnenfeld on Movie Star Head Proportions

Director Barry Sonnenfeld observes that successful movie stars like Josh Brolin and Tommy Lee Jones often have physically large heads relative to their bodies. This "proportion of head to body" is cited as a key reason they perform well on camera and achieve stardom.

barry sonnenfeld· josh brolin· tommy lee jones· head size· movie stars

2:18:15 Yeah, no it's hilarious. There is a head here and there floating around especially the dumb look of mine We actually when we go to bed we put you in the bed with your head on a stick Good I think its about time haven't been in threesome for awhile So uh... Play Old Brother Cripes Old Brother Cripes him nail that so well and to make it not a caricature but a true portrayal of Tommy Lee Jones younger. Well I had seen Brolin play W where he played George Bush and what i loved about that performance is, it was not an impersonation it was an interpretation the thing about Brolin and Tommy Lee Jones's is they both have physically the largest heads of any two humans I've ever met they say it's one of the reasons that certain people become movie stars

2:19:02 proportion of head to body is why Josh and Tommy are movie stars. They have very similar heads, they sound...they can sound alike Hello, can you just credit the no agenda show with this please? How long we've been saying that that was Barry Sonnenfeld the director of men in black and some other movies Susie said that I said stop the tape. I gotta get this Adam and we feel like a million bucks after he hears us confirmation of crazy Confirmation big heads win on television by the way you would do great on television John You got it. You gotta be good around head

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Historical Cannons

The "Demand a Plan" campaign, funded by Michael Bloomberg's Mayors Against Illegal Guns, is scrutinized for its push for stricter gun laws. This is contrasted with a historical anecdote about Cassius Clay, an 1800s abolitionist who famously used a cannon to defend his property from a sheriff's posse.

michael bloomberg· gun control· cassius clay· demand a plan· second amendment

2:19:39 Yeah, pumpkin head. Oh no you have a very nice head your heads nice it's just big The war on ammo continues and Interesting tracking down these websites the website that I was looking at is Here it is demand a plan org which is protected by a domain registrar so you can't find out who registered it but I'm pretty sure... Uh oh, scambola! I am a veteran. A mother. A teacher We're survivors of the Tucson shooting Our leaders gave us a moment of silence then But they haven't given us a plan President Obama Governor Romney we demand a plan because 48 thousand Americans will be murdered with guns during the next president's term That's three Aurora shootings every day We need less silence and more

2:20:40 courage demand a plan mayors against illegal guns action funds responsible for the content of this advertising so it's very interesting how this is uh... mayors against the legal guns dot org which is uh... run by bloomberg if you see its registered to n y c dot gov but demand a planned out or gives what's being promoted in this video but they don't say he'd legal guns that just saying guns guns demands a plan to end gun violence And it's, well it's where its all going I guess. Well there is a lot of money on both sides of this debate and it hasn't gone that far even though it's inching away because in the olden days when I was kid if you remember I've said before you know used to be able have a cannon Yeah Cassius Clay had a cannon

2:21:38 Yeah, Kashuk's Clay the original... Kashuk's Clay the origi... this... one of the early ambassadors to Russia. very famous brother of Henry Clay in the 18... he was an abolitionist and he lived in Kentucky. And there was a lot of pro-slave groups there, and every once in awhile their sheriff would get up a posse and they'd go to arrest him on some trumped up charges, and he fired the cannon at them! I love that. Nowadays you pull it out and they all went back home this is nuts! Screw it! Nowadays if you did something like that they bring in the drones and they kill you yes You can't do anything like that, but so I mean. I don't see you can't do any good stuff like that anymore Oh speaking of that um you know I was just in Denver and of course now I have friends into services in Denver and Did did you hear about this fire in Aurora to dead 25 injured in Aurora fire? Yeah? No yeah? This was when was this on the two nights ago

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Aurora Fire and Spanish Supermarket Rubbish Bins

A fire in Aurora, Colorado, occurring near the apartment of theater shooter James Holmes, is noted for its suspicious timing. Separately, the city of Girona, Spain, has begun locking supermarket trash bins to prevent citizens from scavenging for food, citing "social alarm" and health risks.

aurora· james holmes· girona· spain· dumpster diving

2:22:41 Aurora firefighters were dispatched to their second working fire of the night in the area of 17th and Peoria So two people died in this fire 25 were injured I think on the second floor is when they died witnesses reported a 20 to 30 year old thin white male Wearing a white and black or black checkered shirt And long pants was seen entering the building with a gas can moments before the fire started now by itself Maybe not such an interesting story Unless your friends in the fire department there tell you that this building was right across from James Holmes's building. I'm thinking we had some witnesses we had to clean up. Oh, that's interesting! That's a good one. It's possible... They're not reported upon in any such way? Of course not. There is some kind of curious unreported news besides the snow and South Africa

2:23:41 Play the dumpster diving clip. To enter Parliament... The Spanish city of Girona has decided to lock supermarket rubbish bins to stop people scavenging for food Products past their sell-by date are thrown away at the end of each day and then taken and eaten by the hungry The practice has increased since the Spanish economy began to unravel There are 1.73 million households in Spain where all eligible workers are unemployed. There are a large number of perishable products that were thrown away and then eaten, they're the products that the people looking for. The move is not as mean as it first appears officials say there are health risks involved for those who eat from bins and the practice causes social alarm. Social Alarm? Social Alarm!

2:24:37 You know, the stuff that is past its date you don't have to throw it out. You can eat it and it's perfectly fine Well in fact if you look into it in any way especially the United States where they refuse to stamp everywhere in the world you go and If you buy an egg generally speaking their inkjet printed with the date that they're either packaged or the data that chicken love them or some approximation and if you go to Germany all the eggs have this little, they have a little bunch of ink on them for they... we don't do that. In fact it's known fact that most people... The Germans have the culture putting tattoos on things so yes but this is not unusual in France and other places I mean i think in England too there are some of these eggs especially

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Warrantless Wiretapping and Twitter Subpoenas

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that while citizens can sue for damages from wiretap information, they cannot sue for the collection of the information itself. Additionally, the NYPD is seeking to subpoena Twitter for user data following threats made on the platform, highlighting the tension between law enforcement and digital privacy.

9th circuit court· wiretapping· twitter· nypd· privacy

2:25:21 But anyway, we take them. The eggs are over date? We just take them out and change the package I mean it's a known fact that half of the eggs that we eat in this country which is why i recommend people get their own damn chickens Half the eggs are way past the date An egg will last 2-3 months before it really goes bad if its kept refrigerated but you know this would be kind of thing were talking about Federal. Yes, if you buy if you pulled it on the dumpster and you pull out a You know, it's yogurt Greek yogurt. Yeah, and it's got its got a date on there Are you just open it? And you smell it, you know that's right Use your nose your nose will tell you so a federal appeals court ruled that the US government can indeed tap into Americans communications without warrants

2:26:11 No. This is the three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that citizens... That's our by group here in the Bay Area. ...citizens can sue the United States for damages stemming from use information collected via wiretap, but not for the collection information itself! This is very interesting Yeah that way they think you get that keeps the dossier alive yeah So wireless warrant... Great no CAs, yeah. Warrantless wiretapping is apparently just allowed? Yeah! Okay Just making sure

2:26:50 Just one of those things. Make it easy on yourself people, just get on Facebook and spill your guts and tell everybody what you're up to and then get on Foursquare so they know where you are at all times And then wherever you go check in make sure to check in wherever you going You go to McDonald's check-in and then write about it on Facebook and then tweet it if you can and Then they won't really bother you too much funny. They got Yeah? You're self-documenting. Funny you mention that, I have a little clip about Twitter New York City Police Department boosted security outside of Broadway theater after profanity laden threats of mass murder were made on Twitters. Twitters! Starting late last week. Twitters! How many are there?! There's so many twitters Serious people are gonna die like Aurora referring to the movie theater massacre that killed 12 and wounded 58

2:27:41 Another tweet included mention of a hit list and killing a lot of people the NYA let me guess stop It was Obama's Twitter feed. I'm gonna drone you, bitch! He requested information about the Twitter account holder but was denied. In a statement they added we sought a subpoena to force twitter to disclose the identity of the account holder They want to cooperate with law enforcement but they have to make sure that their respecting their users privacy as well Couldn't waiting for that subpoena in some cases mean the difference between life and death? Life and Death! Absolutely

2:28:20 They won't wait for the court order if they have a good faith belief that someone's life is in danger. Larry Cunningham is a former New York City prosecutor. in a hard place. He's subpoenaed social media companies in the past. What could the NYPD, and in this case learn from Twitter? I would want to know who registered it when where were they when they registered what was the IP address of their computer you go what's their email address how much do we know about this account holder yes exactly that so there you go go ahead and put out there whatever you say they're gonna get all your information

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Modern Hanseatic League and European Economic History

Speculation arises regarding the formation of a modern Hanseatic League among Nordic and Baltic EU countries as a response to the Euro crisis. The history of the original league is discussed, alongside warnings that forced internationalism and globalization often lead to increased geopolitical tension and conflict.

hanseatic league· lufthansa· euro crisis· globalization· world war i

2:29:02 What an idiot this guy the sweat guy I mean the tweeter guy or the guy doing the tweets like leaders on the tweeters It's all on the tweeters. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna bound to place. Yeah really so did it get bombed by the way? I don't know any bombing of a Broadway theater So that um I just thought I haven't had the time there was a bomb that's right spider-man Are you familiar with the Hanseatic League? Oh, that sounds familiar. But no I looked this up on on the book of knowledge This is a sent to us by a candy man A prolonged euro crisis could lead to the Nordic EU countries forming a modern Hanseatic league centered on the Baltic Sea

2:29:52 Yeah, yeah. I know about this go on well I mean It's kind of like in just throwing it out there because I figured you would know about the previous Hanseatic League Which I think was in the 1500s or so the 1600? Oh, I was just being I was still being conceived about then and that wasn't old enough to remember Do you know anything about it, or are you don't no I don't know well. I wish she did because it seems thanks So the idea is the Nordic countries, Germany, the Baltic countries and Poland would form a separate viable economic alliance. In fact this Hanseatic League we still hear of it today like Lufthansa. The Hansa from Hanseatic is a throwback... I didn't know this and then i've actually found that on the book of knowledge. I find that interesting there's a competing

2:30:49 Here we come, I should have talked about it. Curiously the Germans are in both all these they're competing against themselves Well the thing is... They're not taking any chances The only people who aren't allowed in are the French That's what's interesting about the Hansi I believe Now that makes sense It's like we're gonna set up a little club here but no Frenchies allowed please I thought it was interesting Yeah, the French can join with Spain and Portuguese and they'd make a little club of their own I suppose. They could do that or who else is in that area? Maybe the Dutch or the Belgians? The Dutch yeah parts of the Belgiums

2:31:27 So here's the legacy of Hansa is remembered today in several names for example Lufthansa, FC Hansa Roosstock that's the soccer club. Hansa University of Applied Sciences in Groningen the Netherlands The Hansa Brewery in Bergen and Hansa Park in Estonia so this was a big deal back in the day apparently This was the EU of the day. What happened to them? All these plans, by the way, crap out... There was an internationalism movement in the turn-of-the century late 1800's and it resulted in World War I, to put it mildly And yeah, but there was funny because I was reading about this or studying this era while looking at the depression cycle Which is what you do on Saturday nights

2:32:15 I do. It's pathetic, so around the turn of the century from 1900 to about 1915 there was really no passport control in most of the world you would just do whatever you felt like go here or you'd go there and it wasn't a big deal and World Trade was effective if you look at charts It was peaking out big time around the turn of that century. Everyone's trading, it was a big talk you know the way it is now too. Oh its globalization everybody you have to compete on a world basis and all these sorts of things and more than increases the more tension erupts because people are trying to look for an advantage

2:32:57 and or they're going broke because something or other like we are, and then they clamp it down. But this resulted in World War I which resulted in World War II was a disaster that's why I'm not a big fan of the EU or any of these things because they always lead to some horrible situation if you just leave people alone live their little countries do their own thing and they can do... You know? It's fine! It always worked out well until My history in a nutshell. I'm looking at the chat room Hansa plast The band-aid people hans across America That's very good, thank you for that contribution Oh

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Israeli Interest in Greek Energy Assets

Israeli President Shimon Peres visited Athens to discuss tourism and energy, leading to speculation that Israel may be interested in purchasing Greek state-owned gas companies and grid operators. This comes as Greece is pressured by the "troika" to sell off national assets to meet bailout requirements.

greece· israel· shimon peres· natural gas· privatization

2:33:50 Just a quick one on the pipes Greece now once again I'm just keeping you updated on this have said they've made progress in finding budget cuts needed to continue its Bailout agreed last March with the European Union the International Monetary Fund the troika as it were But they really need to sell off these state-owned gas company and grid operator. We're ready to go pricing is done, and who was in Who was in Athens this week? Oh Israeli president Shimon Peres. Yeah, uh-huh He was there for to talk about tourism and energy But the whole a whole article that I have focused on tourism and energy So what do you think will we see an Israeli buy of the Greek assets?

2:34:38 Well, that's... somebody is going to buy it. Which of course the Greek people should get wind of this and cause a fuss I hope. Oh no! Well they might cause a fuss but we'll never hear about it So I did promise in the newsletter we'd talk a little bit about the Olympics. I do have two clips. Very nice! The Olympics, by the way are the worst Olympics i've ever seen it seems like the Bob Costas show they showed nothing that's interesting We haven't seen any of the... you know ping pong is actually interesting at this level watching guys hit the ball million times a million hours a million miles an hour there's a lot of good sports kayaking whole kinds of sailing Hello! Women's field hockey

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NBC Olympics Coverage and Athlete Interviews

NBC's coverage of the London Olympics is criticized for focusing on American athletes and Bob Costas interviews rather than the sports themselves. Specific critiques include the heavy "hooker makeup" worn by gymnasts and the incomprehensible nature of interviews with athletes like Jamaica's "The Beast."

nbc· olympics· bob costas· gymnastics· jamaica

2:35:19 There's a bunch of that too. They don't show any of it is mostly Bob Costas interviewing Americans and then they by the way, they show these this is just a complaint of mine. They still showed these Russian gymnasts and in there I saw that the last gymnast has to get a lower or higher score. They never show us the score! They show the score of the American and they show the score of the next person and the last person who has to get a 12 point 2 or something. They do not show what the score is producing the Olympics for NBC is an idiot. Can I make an observation? An observation before your clip because i've seen very little of the uh... of the olympics as we don't have a television and it's only if were in a bar somewhere getting drunk or eating whatever, and here's the observation particularly with the gymnastics that saw a little bit about but also during uh... the women's running jumping over those things hurdles

2:36:14 Their eye makeup, without fail they all have really heavy make-up. They look like hookers! All of them! Yeah I know that in fact why does a runner wear eye make up? Why does a girl who's gonna do the uneven bars... It's really thick it's like heroin addict hooker makeup What is up with that you've seen it too right Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah! We were watching the high hurdles or the low hurdles 110 or whatever it is and they had a close-up of one of these black women she had huge fake eyelashes on. That slows you down And we all commented on it like what's with the eyelashes? It's hooker makeup man if my daughter walked around like that I said to dude... You know and she likes makeup but this is outrageous and your gymnast What happened to O Natsurao

2:37:04 So they have these events and a lot of interviews, and at the end of a lot of the interviews they'll take the winner if it's American, take him aside. And then they bring out this fascinating commentary you can play the clip America Olympics are about Well Justin, now that you're in the final how do you plan on using this opportunity with gold silver and bronze waiting for everybody? Just go out there and execute. Do my race like I'm supposed to. I've done it all year and just go through the finish line with all heart A lot of emotion here at the end of this semi-final tell me about it You know It's not about me. It's not about the next runner next to me or my teammates. It's about America That's right! It's about America Oh yeah! It is about America Hold on one second

2:37:50 If you see something, say something. It's all about America! So if that wasn't bad enough... The other Olympics clip I have is another one of these fascinating interviews with a guy from Jamaica You can't understand-I swear to God you will not understand a word he says Well Johan, you've been given the nickname The Beast so what must A Beast do in this upcoming final? Well um, yeah, unleash the beast. You know, um, the coach hasn't pulled off his strings yet So we're just going to go back around and see what the coach has to say. Give God thanks, that's been great for me You know I'll just keep focused and get ready for the finals. Alright well see you back here shortly Thank you!

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Pussy Riot Trial and Madonna's Support

The trial of the Russian punk band Pussy Riot for an anti-Putin performance in a church has gained international attention, with Madonna expressing support during a Moscow concert. The hosts suggest the media focus on the band may be orchestrated due to Putin's lack of cooperation regarding the conflict in Syria.

pussy riot· vladimir putin· russia· madonna· syria

2:38:28 It's like what is this? This is terrible and the guys like okay. Yeah, good luck with that Beast Whoa it was your pussy riot client of a clip man I like You know pussy riot got they would do I just love hearing female news anchors say pussy riot yeah Yeah, Pussy Riot is a punk band in Russia and they stormed the church I guess and then they sang an anti-Putin song. And so they got arrested now they're threatening them with three years in prison. So if you play this clip which has kind of background of it It turns out that Madonna comes out with a bunch of others but Madonna

2:39:13 says push the right should be freed and also the bullshit Madonna is in Moscow at the time giving a concert by coincidence this is like rigged this whole thing. The court was told they had desecrated the church and caused huge offense to those who were working there that day. Their fate has attracted international attention Last night Madonna who was singing in Moscow joined a growing chorus of music stars who are supporting pussy right? I

2:40:03 The prosecution have asked for the women to be sent to prison for three years. I think that this whole thing is just interesting because it gives the news media an opportunity to say pussy on television and you know, there's that element but i think this was also something orchestrated by our people Because of Putin being such a dick about Syria He's not playing along he's not playing the game But the whole pussy thing is just hilarious Yeah I know You'd think its really funny It's like Beavis in Budhead If you just went up and said, well you know women have this HPV in their pussy. You'd be thrown off television Yeah, but if you can say Pussy Ride I love it when Aaron Burnett says it. Pussy ride...pussy What do ya think they're talking about a little cat?

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Bill O'Reilly on Drug Laws and Mandatory Sentencing

The show concludes with a critique of Bill O'Reilly's stance on drug legalization and mandatory sentencing. O'Reilly is shown arguing aggressively against a guest who supports judicial discretion, with O'Reilly suggesting that even if the "whole country" must go to prison to stop drug use, it is a necessary measure.

bill o'reilly· marijuana· mandatory sentencing· oxycontin· new york times

2:40:51 So we don't have these sorts of pressures on this show and that's why I want to remind people to support our show. We hate on the show, they do not have any way of getting us off the air really. There is no pressure... The whole group of listeners all you know whatever our numbers are if they all stop giving us donations and stop producing the show for us yeah but that's different. That because we suck than the lone wolf that you know is complaining about the fact that we don't support Obama and his kill list. I support the president yeah, we support him as the president but we don't support Obama and his kill list And i want to thank all of the airmen at Hill Air Force Base for getting the memo and just waiting for a little bit

2:41:41 Now they heard it. They were complaining about it. I thought that was going to sound good on the show! No, no, no...I heard Dvorak bitching about it. Stand down! You're grounded! Maybe producer Mike tweaked the ILS. Oh sorry man, the systems aren't working you can fly right now It's really nice to know that we have so many listeners and producers in the service and that they're not insane. They're not insane, and they are not out to kill you just because they don't have a Facebook doesn't mean that their suspicious Stop this insanity! You have an end of show clip? This actually...you sent me this video This has been around for awhile. This is not really new I never heard it before It was new to ME

2:42:33 It's not really new. I know, it's been around a while In fact i looked at once and the video just turned me off. I'm like oh here they're like hey he is almost done with the show Yeah it's live now we don't have to play it. I'll tell you what instead of playing that I think you might be right if you have good sense in these things We can play back-to-back clip A double shot O'Reilly as an a-hole part one Okay And O'Reilly is an a-hole, which would be the second part of this clip. Let me set it up and we can play it at the end and then we can play you know douchebag clip. Okay. Very good. O'Reilly who is really working for I don't know who he's responding to but he uh... He's got conservatives on him. He's got a conservative girl and a conservative guy or he's got two people on him but the conservative woman, the girl she is well known and she has described she is kind of tending a little bit towards

2:43:26 legalization of marijuana. She's very pretty, actually. And O'Reilly and she gives some concrete reasons for this and that and O'Reilly goes off the deep end with some crazy thing he said what if your daughter dies from drugs? Would you like to... So he does this over and over First clip is him jumping all over her and then the second clip is part of his Word of the day with this crazy notions about why we need to be harsher drugs drug laws and at some point, which is not in these clips he actually says if we have to put the whole country in prison that's too bad. I mean he's really a douchebag about this stuff and this will be the two clips. So this your uplifting note that you're leaving us on John? Is that the idea here? Yeah! That's fantastic. Oh that's very nice alright okay this is the Sally In The Sin Bin set-up here in Layton Utah

2:44:25 Right above Salt Lake City and Utah the state where they have the most awesomest mountains in the universe Come to Utah everybody. It's really nice don't drive an i-15 though, that's not so really nice next stop Sun Valley Idaho's you two hose weed a hose Idaho's now we'll be there overnight, and then we're on to Boise where we will be staying with producer Chris Breshears Oh, Chris! Say hi to him for me. Yeah known from the Poop Cast And he's always gonna say... He's gonna say is this stock worth anything? Is it stock worth anything should I really be investing in that? Thank you very much Mike Statham for allowing us to park in your driveway follow your bathroom and cook our jowl bacon in your kitchen Miss Mickey thank you once again for keeping us on the true straight and narrow

2:45:22 Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, golden them hills. That would be Utah in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I missed the webinar I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on no agenda and Bill O'Reilly Thanks for watching us tonight hidden agendas that hurt you that is a subject of this evening's talking points memo Some conservative Americans believe President Obama intentionally wants to hurt the country, that he's a communist or socialist or whatever. But Talking Points does not speculate about things that cannot be proven. Although in our second segment tonight we will discuss Mr Obama's youthful association with a hard core communist. However, there are number of hidden agendas on the left that can be proven We all know about the medical marijuana ruse where states like California and Colorado gave licenses to pot shops and now have to close them down because of all social problems they're causing In those states anybody can walk in with alleged pain in their toe

2:46:26 and walk out with an intoxicant. Again, it's a ruse to legalize marijuana Now we have something that ups the drug ante Yesterday The New York Times editorialized that some hardcore dealers, drug dealers are actually victims who should not be put in prison This is another ruse to try to get hard drugs decriminalized in the USA. I mean, think about it... About 30 thousand Americans will die from illegal drug overdoses this year alone. Thirty thousand! Another 23 million Americans are drug involved addicted or dependent on things like heroin cocaine and meth

2:47:07 The New York Times says we should look at mandatory sentencing requirements on our federal level and see if they're working, and see if they're overloading the system. And I don't think that's an unreasonable thing partly because as a conservative I look at all levels of government and say look are we using our money is efficiently as possible? I wish The New York Times in the left would take a similarly skeptical eye to other things but do you think this is an area where you can look and say for instance in Florida state drug trafficking law what makes you a big criminal or drug trafficker or drug dealer I believe seven pills of Oxy can be the amount that you're caught with. So, you're actually ensnaring people who are addicted who are victims of these other bigger crimes? Let's take it out in the theoretical realm both of you so your daughter 19 years old dead because she takes Oxycontin ODs and she is dead now a person who sells her that what should happen to that person Mary Katzner

2:48:03 What? I think that person should go to jail. Just for the record, that was theoretical and what i was talking about is an actual law in Florida. The question's theoretical! Okay, I just asked you a very simple straightforward direct question... They should go to jail and that's fine but the judge should have some discretion to say look what should the sentence be if it's somebody who's- No no no, America, I don't want to hear this. I'm talking in real facts. I wanna hear what should happen to the person who sold your daughter the pills that killed her. They should have a trial and if they're convicted they can go to jail That's how the law works. No mandatory though, right? Here is the problem! When you have a mandatory sometimes you're catching that girl who is hooked on drugs and not catching the person who is selling it to her. You are throwing her in jail for four years. So do you want her in jail for four years?! Mary Katherine just stop it The girl who is hooked on drugs sells to someone else alright To supply or sell her own habit And that someone else dies... You giving them a pass Mary Katherine? Now get out there and WHOOP OH BOOM

2:48:59 Obama's behind!