Episode 291 · Thursday, 31 March 2011

Unconstitutional Botox

A $33 billion asset seizure and a triple-teleprompter address signal a new era of intervention as the executive branch bypasses Congress to reshape the Middle East.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama authorized military intervention in Libya while seizing $33 billion in sovereign assets, a move signaling a shift toward controlling the nation's wealth. During a televised address from the Pentagon, the President utilized a complex triple-teleprompter setup to justify the humanitarian mission, comparing a potential massacre in Benghazi to the population of Charlotte, North Carolina. This specific rhetorical choice has sparked theories regarding coded messaging directed at Bank of America and the financial sector.

Secondary developments include Senator John McCain’s pivot from a 2009 weapons deal with Muammar Gaddafi to calling for his immediate removal. In London, Prime Minister David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy coordinated civilian protection efforts while Qatar secured rights to sell Libyan oil, potentially acting as a front for MI6. Meanwhile, Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa defected to the UK, drawing historical parallels to Rudolph Hess. Domestically, the Supreme Court ordered the Federal Reserve to disclose secret emergency loans, and the RIAA lobbyist Beryl Howell secured a federal judgeship to oversee file-sharing litigation.

Segment oddities include a deep dive into the Botoxed expressions of Donald Rumsfeld and the hospitalizations of media figures like Judge Judy following on-air incoherence. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the recurring appearance of the number 33 across global news, from HIV vaccine trials to California’s renewable mandates. The duo also explores the acquisition of the domain SeanHannity.com and the Belgian shoe-throwing protests against Prime Minister Yves Leterme.


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CHAPTER 01 / 40 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 291 Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 291 of the No Agenda show on Thursday, March 31, 2011. The hosts discuss their global network of listeners, referred to as "boots on the ground," including reports coming from Libya. Dvorak mentions reading Agenda 21 as they prepare to analyze the week's news.

adam curry· john c dvorak· media assassination· agenda 21· libya

00:00 going to religion culinary arts airlines food recipes else united states africa uh... outdoor recreation travel tourism and i'm curious john c devorah it's thursday march thirty first two thousand eleven times you get my nation media assassination episode two nine r one this is no one can Ripping up Article 1, Section 8 here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gimel Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm reading Agenda 21, I'm John C. Dvorak.

00:40 In the morning do you and in the morning to you and all ships at sea and beats on the ground the beats underground? Underground beats grow underground and boots on the ground perhaps who have been emailing me I got some boots on the ground in Libya. Yeah, we do We got boots on the ground everywhere You know this is getting so exciting with this show is that we it literally have boots on the ground everywhere I mean from 611 Folsom Street, 600 Folsom Street to Libya. The foots are on the ground everywhere. It's very good. So we bring you the true news. Yeah, we have our own people. We're gathering intelligence. So, yeah, I wish there was something to talk about. All right, let me just kick it off because we might as well get this crap out of the way.

CHAPTER 02 / 40 Discussion

President Obama's Libya Speech and Teleprompter Usage

President Barack Obama delivered a televised address on Monday regarding military intervention in Libya. The hosts critique the C-SPAN broadcast, noting a specific camera angle that revealed a "triple prompter" setup including two glass panels and a large rear screen. Observations are made regarding the President's physical stage presence and the seemingly bored audience composed of Pentagon personnel.

barack obama· c-span· teleprompter· pentagon· libya

01:34 Well, do we have to? Yeah, I think so. Because when we last left, when we last left Adam and John, and John Boye, and Mary Ellen, and Subob, the president was speaking on Monday to the nations about how it is possible that we are at war in Libya without following the Constitution of the United States. You're referring to his little talk? His little ditty there. By the way, what did you watch it on? I watched it on C-SPAN. What did you watch it on? I think I watched it on C-SPAN too. Did you see that extra extra long shot of the teleprompter they made? Yeah. I was like, wow! C-SPAN for people out there, C-SPAN took a kind of behind the Obama shot into the audience.

02:30 and the audience was filled with all these just these bored it looks like everybody that they could it looks like they took everyone from the Pentagon and and and had a an announcement over the PA system assembly All students are expected to be in the gym at 12 o'clock. And did you see, because with C-SPAN you get, you know, you don't have to listen to Wolf Blitzer talk while in a little small itty bitty window of what's actually going on. You see the full screen before it happens. The president, he like bounded onto the stage. He's like, woohoo! Yeah, but you know, the way he walks, he has his, he's like a chipmunk. He's got both hands in front of himself.

03:14 and it's like a little chipmunk and he jumps and his hands are, his motionless hands are in front of him kind of tucked in a little like a dog paddle kind of thing and that's the way he walks down the Air Force One and that's the way he jumps on the stage he's got his hands it's like Mr. Burns has got his hands up. He is Mr. Excellent. He's excellent. He bounded onto the stage and And so they had that extra long teleprompter shot, which was hilarious. I mean, I could read two whole paragraphs out loud. And Mickey's like, what are you doing? How do you do that? I said, well, I'm just reading the teleprompter. It's on the screen here. Yeah, no, they had a shot from behind. Apparently Obama set up with this is a triple. Do you see this? No, it's a triple. It was a triple prompter, triple, triple play. It's a triple prompter. You got your two glass prompters on your left and your right. And then way in the back, there's a giant screen

04:10 on the back wall that is a prompter. And this thing you could, I was doing the same thing, especially when I put it up on the screen, I could read the speech in advance. Squirrel! So, a couple things. First of all, I fell off my chair. I fell off my chair, John. Literally. Get a different chair for God's sake. You're gonna kill yourself. When the president says, we have seized 33 billion dollars, I'm like, oh my god. throw it in my face! It was never 33, it was the largest asset seizure in history, it was more than 30 billion and now it was 33 billion. Hello? Actually he may have had to say that because Hillary let it slip the day before. Hillary was at, which I have some clips of her, I'm sorry to report. That is indeed quite unfortunate.

CHAPTER 03 / 40 Discussion

Libyan Asset Seizure and Humanitarian Justifications

President Obama announced the seizure of $33 billion in Libyan assets, which the hosts interpret as a signal regarding control of the country's wealth. The discussion covers the administration's justification for force based on interests and values. Historical claims regarding Muammar Gaddafi's violence against his own people are questioned, specifically regarding the timeline of revolutionary events.

barack obama· hillary clinton· libya· muammar gaddafi· asset seizure

05:09 Well before you get to Hillary there was another piece of code in there that I noticed or do you want to continue on the 33 thing I mean that was just blatant code for we've got the cash. We've got it We're gonna rebuild with his own cash Who wants some of the 33 billion? Is that your Obama yeah, it's the other Obama So do we go on with you got some other stuff? Yeah, I have one Obama clip from that speech. You can play it if you want. Well, okay, which It's just the guts of it the way I see all right the guts of it Let's listen to that then mindful of the risks and costs of military action. We are naturally reluctant to use force to solve the world's many challenges Yeah, when our interests and values are at stake we have a responsibility to act

06:06 That's what's happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks. Libya sits directly between Tunisia and Egypt. Thank you for the geography lesson. I actually looked, I'm like let me just make sure. This is how anal I've become. Let me just make sure it's exactly between, between the two. Ah crap, alright. He's not, he wasn't lying for a moment. Inspired the world when their people rose up to take control of their own destiny. for more than four decades the libyan people have been ruled by a tyrant muammar gadaffi he has denied his people freedom exploited their wealth murdered opponents at home and abroad and terrorized innocent people around the world including americans who were killed by libyan agents he also said something about uh... he's been... that americans were killed by libyan agents

07:06 Well, they over here killing people. Well, see I couldn't really find that anywhere nor could I find any real mention except back to the 1970s where during the revolution you know the which is when it all started for Gaddafi he started you know they hung people who were who they overthrew essentially and the president says you know he's hung people in the streets I'm like yeah but that was part of the revolution it wasn't necessarily Gaddafi that did that but okay I'll take that whatever he's a bad guy yeah we're really good like those bombs have you know flowers poof out of it right whatever but the thing is yeah as an aside as an aside I want you to continue but as an aside

CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

Bank of America and the Charlotte Massacre Reference

During his speech, President Obama compared the potential massacre in Benghazi to the size of Charlotte, North Carolina. The hosts speculate this was a coded message directed at Bank of America, which is headquartered in Charlotte. They link this rhetoric to a recent incident where a US Airways jetliner was found with a bullet hole after landing in Charlotte.

barack obama· bank of america· charlotte· benghazi· us airways

07:56 Are you a little concerned that, you know, Obama brags and so does Hillary actually about how quick they are to jump into this fray without, you know, giving it much thought to just do it. And I'm reminded of the member that woman from the agriculture department at some right-wing talk show, taking a clip from her and then they fire her. Oh, right. Remember that? It was when they jumped to action before they really think things through. I'm worried, you know, these guys have their finger on the red button. Well, you're trying to be... Oh my God, it looks like a missile launch. Well, don't take any chances. Push the button and let's launch all our missiles. All right. So now you're talking like a rational guy and I've got to stop that. I've got to intervene. I've got to intervene. So there was another piece of code and something happened that confirmed this for me. I'm reading here from the official transcript. We knew that

08:48 We knew that if we wanted, and that was a mistake, if we waited, which is not, he made a lot of those flubs by the way. We knew that if we wanted, if we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, would suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and sustain the conscience of the world. Ah, you know, that caught my attention too because why Charlotte? Why Charlotte? Now, Charlotte is in North Carolina. What is the, now we've had other little warning shots go out to Charlotte in the past. What is the main, main company that is headquartered in Charlotte?

09:35 The Bank of America. Who? Bank of America. The Bank of America ride is in Charlotte. And then what happens the other day on the news? Trying to find out what or who caused a hole in the side of a US Airways jetliner. The pilot of the flight 737 was making a visual inspection of the plane when he noticed that small hole above the passenger windows. The flight originated in Philadelphia and had just landed safely at the airport in Charlotte, North Carolina. So someone shot at the plane. It's a bullet hole that entered through the top of the fuselage through the cabin, the passenger cabin and went right into the cabin. Someone shot at the plane.

10:15 well now wasn't there a bunch of bank of america executives on that plane that last thirty one i had thirty three of them i'm mine ad right which i know you know under most normal circumstances of it was a for good old sully yeah they would all be dead yes sully who has a uh... a multimillion dollar to book deal one of them which is poetry of his great high cruise he's on the other side of whatever battle this is a result so when you say something like this I mean, here's the way I read it. If we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, in other words, Charlotte could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world. For some reason, and I think this has to do with the 33 billion, for some reason this is a message saying, hey, hey, we've got our eye on you. And I think it's Bank of America. There's a lot of big companies in Charlotte, by the way.

11:12 There's some other banks there too, maybe. Well it's kind of a big financial center now, but if you look at... Well it sounds like a message to Charlotte to me. Yeah, I'm not quite sure... Why would you say Charlotte? Half the Americans don't even know what you're talking about. Charlotte? Charlotte's some woman. I didn't even understand it at first. I had to go back to the transcript. What was he talking about? Charlotte. Charlotte. What's going on there? So I have like a million different little things, but it's obvious that everybody... so the first thing is what he's doing and what he continued to do on numerous different shows is explain away the fact that he has done this without congressional approval. Which is written in the Constitution that it has to happen that way.

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

Constitutional Authority and Hillary Clinton's "Imagine" Rhetoric

The hosts express outrage over the executive branch bypassing Congressional approval for the Libyan intervention, citing Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is criticized for using hypothetical "imagine" scenarios to justify military action. The segment notes that Representative Ron Paul has been hesitant to join Dennis Kucinich's calls for impeachment.

hillary clinton· constitution· ron paul· dennis kucinich· impeachment

12:08 and what is continuously being said is no, no, we saved or created thousands of people, we had to act now. I don't care, I'm sorry, I don't care. I just don't care about the people of Libya that much. I care more about the agreement that we have. What else good is the Constitution? So this whole thing is resulting in at least a push forward where the President of the United States does not have to adhere to the Constitution. And I am outraged by this. And look at our Congress, look at the Senate. Even Ron Paul is not even...

12:48 You know he was asked on some show, well you know Dennis Kucinich says we should impeach the president, would you sign on? And even Ron Paul's going like, well you know I would have to see. What? Ron Paul's not agreeing with impeachment over this? John, your take, please. He's considered the only honest man in Congress and we never even like the guy. Well, I like him because he's seen UFOs. That's cool. Well, you like him because he's got the best looking wife in Congress. Yeah, she is pretty hot. And so there's a couple of things. Actually, I pulled a clip from, I got a Hillary clip here. Now this is from last Sunday.

13:34 But I don't care what word you use, certainly the word imagine is not enough to break a fundamental part of the Constitution. You know I know that there's been a lot of questions and those questions deserve to be asked and answered. The President is going to address the nation on Monday night. Imagine we were sitting here. Imagine, John, just imagine. Imagine, imagine we're just sitting here, John. Just imagine for a moment. Just imagine. Okay? And Benghazi had been overrun, a city of 700,000 people, and tens of thousands of people had been slaughtered. So what... She's making us imagine something.

14:16 So imagine that people have been not killed but slaughtered by the way. But imagine, it's not like it is happening, it has happened, no, imagine, imagine. Just imagine as Hillary says. Hundreds of thousands had fled and as Bob said, either with nowhere to go or overwhelming Egypt while it's in its own difficult transition. and we were sitting here the cries would be why did the United States not do anything? No I don't think so it's just not I just disagree You know, no one's crying about the Ivory Coast. Point to that on the map. Ivory Coast is worse. And Syria, they're butchering people, slaughtering, I'm sorry, let me get that right. Slaughtering. Slaughtering people as we speak. Yes, slaughtering. And then, so I watched hours and hours and hours and hours of C-SPAN.

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

John McCain's 2009 Weapons Deal with Gaddafi

Senator John McCain is criticized for his shifting stance on Libya, having visited Muammar Gaddafi in 2009 to negotiate a $40 billion weapons deal. The hosts contrast this past business relationship with McCain's current rhetoric calling for Gaddafi's removal. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is also noted for making arrogant quips about Gaddafi's future.

john mccain· muammar gaddafi· robert gates· libya· weapons deal

15:10 and so they all these was how many hours an hour 15 hours I only watched hours and hours and hours no no I watched hours and hours and hours and hours I get so everyone gets it we watch hours yeah we watch out you don't have to So they had the two generals, they had the guy in charge of NATO and then this General Stavridis, Stavridis, Greek dude. Stavros Blofeld.

15:53 So Stavro, and it's about Libya right? And of course everyone's there, Lieberman, McCain, everyone's pontific, and literally they start the show off, this will last about two hours and 47 minutes. I'm like, oh! Okay, so I watch it, looking for some gold. uh... could have you know this is all about the uh... the libyan invasion that's how it's titled on c-span and they go all they go all off the track and it's about the budget but then mccain comes out of my guess thanks man finally i watched two and a half hours for this but it was pretty good so mccain who in two thousand nine uh... went to do a weapons deal with uh... with qaddafi in libya this is document is not like any big secret

16:33 He went there to do a deal for $40 billion and it was for non-offensive weapons. So I guess billy clubs and stun guns or whatever. But it was a weapons deal, $40 billion. The same guy is saying this just two days ago in Congress. So the only other question, I know this is a very tough one, but there are persistent rumors that Qaddafi really has very few friends and it's likely that at some point he will, that they will crack and he will either leave, be killed, whatever. Is that something that you think is a pretty good possibility that may happen?

17:18 As I look at the situation in Libya, Senator, you can see a wide range of possibilities out ahead of us that run from a static stalemate to what you just described, Qaddafi cracking. I think that if we work all the elements of power, I think we have a chance at a more than reasonable chance of Qaddafi leaving because the entire international community is arrayed against him. And I think the events today in London where 40 nations are gathered to discuss this would lend weight to the theory that

17:57 As Secretary Gates said in testimony or on a talk show He probably doesn't need to be hanging any new pictures now McCain is coming up with this horrible things about to say, but I just want to point out This is a new thing everyone is using these little like quips. You know like what you heard Secretary Gates says He doesn't need to hang any new pictures. It's like they're so arrogant now. Have you noticed this John? Now that you mention it, I didn't, I should have noticed it, but I have noticed it, but I have not, it hasn't come up in my consciousness enough. Now it has. But you're right, it's all over the place. These guys all think they're stand-up. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't need to hang any new pictures. We're gonna come here and kick your ass! Gaddafi, kick your ass! Alright, now here comes McCain, the guy who did business with Gaddafi two years ago.

CHAPTER 07 / 40 Discussion

London Conference on Libya and David Cameron's Claims

The London Conference on Libya featured leaders like David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy discussing the protection of civilians. Prime Minister Cameron claimed that military action averted a massacre in Benghazi and accused Gaddafi of using snipers in Misrata. The hosts dispute Cameron's reports of naval attacks, noting that the coalition has the ports sealed off.

david cameron· william hague· nicolas sarkozy· benghazi· london conference

18:50 And he, uh, clearly, uh, we just want him gone. Whether it to be live with Chavez or meet Hitler and Stalin or be in a criminal court. What is this? To meet Hitler and Stalin. McCain. McCain. I'm sorry. McCain, you're not funny. No, you're not funny and you're a total douche. To meet Hitler and Stalin or go live with Hugo Chavez. So then, this is what blew my mind. So then they all meet in London. and uh... and uh... haig the uh... foreign minister for a good monetion east puts together a a conference which has stickers by the way because i was what this i watch the entire car has called the london conference on libya it has a low-level of those stickers and it's like what is it to have a home when was this plan all while i could tell you about that so uh... as a couple things first of all

19:50 Speaking our so Hague of course spoke Cameron I got a minute or so of Cameron which is just disgusting and Well, no, let's play Cameron first first UN Security Council resolution 1973 It was just 12 days ago, following an appeal by the Arab League, that the United Nations passed the historic resolution... Historic! ...to protect the people of Libya from the murderous brutality of Colonel Gaddafi. Now, that's not what the resolution was, but okay. They're blaming the Arab League for everything. Yeah, oh yeah, the Arab League, which is a bunch of kings and dictators. These aren't democratic countries, but it gets better.

20:30 At the meeting, Nicholas Sarkozy hosted... Nicholas, Nicholas, he's Nicholas because we called him in class as Nicholas. Nicholas Sarkozy. Nicky, Nicky, Nicky C. Nicky S. Sarko. ...in Paris, we made the right choice. That was to draw a line in the desert sand... More jokes. A line in the desert sand. Get it? Get it? to halt the murderous advance of Gaddafi's forces. MURDEROUS! And I think we should be in no doubt that... Let's make it clear, let there be no doubt. That action did save the city of Benghazi. Or created. It averted a massacre. Averted a massacre! John!

21:10 It averted a massacre. Did you hear that? A massacre. How do we know? We actually know that. We don't. All you have to do is... It's all it takes. Just got to imagine. It has at least given freedom a chance in Libya. But I think we should be in doubt, in no doubt about something else. I love that little misstep there. You hear that? Did you catch it? Yeah. I think we should be in doubt. I mean, no doubt. I love it when they do that. Hey, play. What are you doing? but I think we should be in doubt in no doubt about something else as well. Oh, what? And that is as we sit here today and as I speak people in Misrata continue to suffer murderous attacks. Murderous! From the regime.

21:54 I have had reports this morning. I've had reports. Reports! The city is under attack from both land and from the sea. How can it be from the sea? They've got the whole thing sealed off. That sounds like... Squirrel! Bullcrap. Qaddafi is using snipers to shoot people down and let them bleed to death in the street. Bastard! What a boss did I tell you! He's cut off food, water and electricity to staff people into submission. And he is harassing humanitarian ships that are trying to get into the port to do what they can to relieve their suffering. How can he do this? It doesn't make any sense. You're right. It's like a million warships out there. They've got the ports completely sealed off. You can hear the radio reports. This is a lie. Cameron, you lying sack!

CHAPTER 08 / 40 Discussion

Qatar's Role in Libyan Oil and Central Banking

Qatar has been granted the rights to sell Libyan oil on behalf of the rebels, who have also reportedly established a central bank. The hosts suggest Qatar's involvement is a reward for their support, linking it to their successful 2022 World Cup bid and the influence of Al Jazeera. They speculate that Qatar may be acting as a front for MI6 interests.

qatar· al jazeera· libya· central bank· world cup

22:42 Anyway, so forget this enough of that forget that but who else speaks at this conference John who else speaks? Hillary besides Hillary you you see you tuned out after Hillary. This is where you missed it. No, I Hillary was at the end the foreign minister of Qatar yes in fact I want to mention the fact that wait a minute is they don't have a government they've got a royal family exactly the prime minister that so the prime minister of Qatar shows up that so when you're done with this little whatever wherever you're headed with this I've got another direction to take it okay so I'll tell you I'll tell you what I have discovered

23:22 Qatar, so what happens is Qatar all of a sudden gets the rights to sell the Libyan oil that the rebels all of a sudden seem to know how to hand off. It's like this rag-tag bunch of guys with nothing but AKs, hey let me just make sure we keep the oil shipping out. They send it to Qatar, Qatar is going to be able to sell this. The Libyan rebels have started a central bank. Oh my god. How is it possible? They're so incredibly smart because the central bank is not like like some guy sitting on a crate with with a stack of gold No, it's like it's a highly computerized system that ties in with all other central banks. And so I start looking into Qatar. Oh Let's see Al Jazeera comes from Qatar

24:09 uh... they recently were awarded the two thousand twenty two world cup catars being on this from the get-go this is worse but the catars if you think of what i a m al jazeera really comes from you have to and you fact that there's only one guy in england you have to make the assumption that the car is an aspect of m i six dollar it did but the fact that they got rewarded with the world cup is obvious Hey, you know what you know you guys you do everything we say Send one they had to send one plane over to like fly around so there's a guy The international if I did the international soccer fans football Yeah are up in arms about the Qatar thing nobody wants to go there to watch the damn world. It's a miserable place I tell you no you'll be safe. You're completely protected now and

CHAPTER 09 / 40 Discussion

Barack Obama's 2002 Anti-War Campaign Video

A 2002 campaign video of then-Senator Barack Obama shows him denouncing the Iraq War as a "dumb war" based on passion rather than principle. The hosts highlight the hypocrisy of his current actions in Libya, which Secretary Robert Gates admitted did not pose an imminent threat to the United States. Curry argues that Obama is now acting as "George W. Obama."

barack obama· iraq war· saddam hussein· robert gates· constitution

25:02 So they had to... We'll be safe. They had to send one plane so that just like F-16s and a guy in a biplane. Oh there's Qatar. Qatar has joined us. Oh well we should give them the oil and let them help with the central bank and we'll give them the World Cup. Oh lovely. Lovely, lovely, lovely. and just to finalize my rant here is a secretary gates when posed the question because of course and then I'll shut up about the constitution because everyone else seems to not care especially all the Obama bots who were yelling and screaming about you know what screw it I'm sorry I'm sorry John I can't wait this is a I don't think you've heard this one yet this is a campaign video from 2002 this is a 2002 mind you 2002 this is senator

25:50 to be Senator Barack Obama campaigning a campaign video from him. is a dumb war. A rash war, a war based not on reason but on passion. Not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear, I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent

26:30 or direct threat to the united states so this goes on for a two minutes it's all these testimonials of the obama bots saying exactly what they're not saying right now stand up and don't be ashamed to say i made a mistake and by the way we all voted the guy in whether you voted against him or not we all accept it you have to stand up and say this is a mistake this is george w obama i apologize we've got to get this guy out my one my representatives to take care of it because he's he's denouncing the Constitution of the United States, Article 1, Section 8, which means unless we're under some imminent threat, imminent threat, he has no right to go to war without the support of Congress. Secretary Gates, was there an imminent threat? Do you think Libya posed an actual or imminent threat to the United States? No. He doesn't even think for a second. No.

27:21 No? No! No, it was not a vital national interest of the United States, but it was an interest. No! No! It was an interest for all of the reasons... It's an interest! It's just a little bit of interest. We're interested in what's going on. Hillary Clinton talked about the engagement of the Arabs... The Arabs are interested! We're interested... Shut up! Okay, I think you made your point. John? Okay. I think I have made my point and I'm just disgusted and I think I might have to leave the Republic. I certainly... Well, you'll be doing a disservice to our listeners. I certainly denounce everybody, just everybody. I denounce all of you. Well, while we're in there, instead of denouncing, let's thank some of our producers for today's show before I go into my couple of rants. Hell yeah. I wish I had a better slogan than George W. Bush, but I think it's the best one.

CHAPTER 10 / 40 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and No Agenda Donations

The hosts read donations from executive producers, including Gary Lehner, who requested karma for his daughter at James Madison University. A donor from Mat Depot discusses the durability of No Agenda floor mats. Other contributors include Chuck Martin, James Sutton, and Matiush Berezeki, with the hosts encouraging listeners to use the mail to bypass PayPal.

gary lehner· chuck martin· james sutton· mat depot· paypal

28:24 Anger okay, I'm better now. We did have people I mean are we sucking with the show or people digging it or what's going on? It's you know we're doing as well as can be expected with the fact that we're in a depression The door in the depression and some people just don't have the I got a lot of emails about people saying you know I'm saving as soon as my my check cut like yeah like you're gonna get a refund check so we have one two three four executive are actually three executive producers in one two three associates okay and putting somebody who mailed in a donation which I better find on here on my list of course those things are always good job well prepared he calls the problem is I'm taking notes while you're playing all those clips and then it buries something else I need to have anyway only know you need to take is Adam pissed off hmm so let's go with

29:21 Starting with Gary Lader who is in Richmond, Virginia $366.66 Nice which includes $300 for the 300 club and the remaining $66.66 was 33 33 times 2 is for a request for two huge doses of karma one for his daughter Madison's JMU James Madison University, that's interesting her daughter's name is Madison. He's going she's going to James Madison. That's very funny. Wait a minute. Hold on. You're worse than these douchebags in government. For the crew team who has their first not so spring regatta this weekend. We're giving you karma for regattas now. Come on, let's hand out the karma for the regatta everybody. You've got karma. And for his daughter. Hell yeah. She needs it more than that. Of course, the regatta. What is it, like Facebook?

30:17 And my other city of Richmond and the VCU Rams who hopefully ever get more than two more wins in them Which seems like a lot of requests I started at face and if Facebook account for my company Matt Depot This is our Matt Depot guy who makes these great-looking. Oh my goodness. They're awesome You know that my garage has flooded four times this year and of course the the landlady is like She comes two days later. I don't see no water. Yeah right uh... and the matt is in the garage it's going to the door to the house and it's still it's not like molded nothing that it's like made of titanium it's beautiful tonight's matt yeah uh... but now we only have twenty nine likes as frankly embarrassing in these more likes on face book and i think i'm not going to use it but i know he's talking like what and i don't get it was that kind of uh... you guys give me a plug at matt depot dot com of course eighty depot

31:11 I'll donate 33 cents for every new follower re-accrued through April 19th. Also no sales to report in the No Agenda floor mat except for the two I bought myself. To send to you guys. Well this is sad. The No Agenda floor mat is awesome. It's the gift that keeps on giving. It's beautiful. It's a really it's a nice floor mat and it's high quality. Matt Depot. It's perfect for right in front of the sink in your kitchen because it's a it's one of these waterproof with a rubber back. Yeah, it's indestructible. Chuck Martin Ridge New York 33333 first-time donor I've been following John since he wrote his first newsletter for the TRS color computer which of course I did. Oh my god. I know it's funny because I never did a newsletter for the TRS. You're not doing the voice right.

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CHAPTER 11 / 40 Discussion

Domain Name Forwards and SeanHannity.com

Several new domain names are now forwarding to the No Agenda website, including crackpotcommandcenter.com and gitmoradio.com. Most notably, listener Jason Butler donated the domain SeanHannity.com to the show. The hosts anticipate a cease and desist letter but celebrate the acquisition as a way to propagate the show's formula.

sean hannity· domain names· gitmo radio· argentina· jason butler

34:23 we have some some pretty good domain names that are now forwarding to noagendashow.com and of course all the credits for this are in the show notes noagendashow.com crackpotcommandcenter.com now forwarding to the show's website which I like that's a good one that's a very good one gitmoradio.com which i think is another great find we are now also live enlarge in Argentina with noagenda.com.ar another fantastic initiative you will obey dot u s hey hey good well that's a good one very very good detective dookie dot com

35:06 Now this one and now Pete there's two left and people really really really been holding on to some good ones And I'm you know you know like people will register like ten years ago and like I'm gonna hold on to this and you sit on I mean you sit on it right you hoping somebody comes along and says yeah, I gave you $300,000 at that site so it turns out. It's better just to donate it to us and for why you don't actually these people still own the domain name so you know Yeah, just forwarding. We're borrowing the domain. Carboncreditswap.com. Ooh. Yeah, exactly. Hello. And this one. This one is so good I'm actually going to mention Jason Butler. He says, I've been sitting on the domain of that little punk for years. It'll do more good pointing to you guys. The URL, John? SeanHannity.com.

35:56 Try it! Try it! It actually works. So if anyone says, what is this thing you talk about? Just go to SeanHannity.com. Don't worry, it's all cool. Yeah, we'll be getting a cease and desist letter eventually. But until then... Yeah, we'll continue using it. We love it. Thank you so much Jason. That's a fantastic also Thanks to our executive producers and some of the 300 club members Gary later Chuck Martin media splash net James Sutton Mateos Berezetsky and Kevin McNulty we really appreciate your giving levels you are doing it for the show We're doing it for some karma and everyone else out there. You should be doing this propagate the formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

36:49 Everybody say it loud and proud, not like you mean it! SHUT UP, SLAVE! Just shut up. Alright, back to work. Alright, enough fun for the moment. For the time being. Go to Sean Hannity SeanHannity.com It's amazing I just love it How does that happen? I don't know because he has Hannity.com I'm sure he tried to get SeanHannity.com And he was just too cheap to call the guy up and say hey I want this I guess The guy's making millions and millions of dollars a year he can afford to throw some money at the guy At our man. I don't know. I don't know You know what was really disturbing? So I watched

CHAPTER 12 / 40 Discussion

C-SPAN Feed Cut and Dick Durbin's Senate Rant

During a Senate floor debate, C-SPAN cut away from Senator Dick Durbin as he was responding to Rand Paul. Durbin claimed Muammar Gaddafi threatened to go "house to house" to kill people in Benghazi, a quote the hosts find no evidence for. Durbin also referenced the Pan Am 103 bombing to justify the current military intervention.

dick durbin· rand paul· c-span· benghazi· pan am 103

37:38 Rand Paul I've watched I watched so much C-SPAN. It was I mean, I'm like I am C-SPAN drone now So Rand Paul gets on the floor and he goes, you know, he's basically saying, you know war without Congress You know this he says, you know despicable, you know, he does what what Ron Paul would do essentially but then Dick Durbin gets on and They cut him off C-SPAN cut him off. It was it was like the weirdest thing John and So he starts apologizing, Dick Durbin of course a Democrat, he starts apologizing and then C-SPAN like just cuts in and says we're going to something else and I didn't understand, I couldn't figure it out, the cut was live broadcast. The only time they do that is when it's a secondary feed and they're actually in Congress and somebody's taking a vote and then they when they have that moment where they say we got 10 minutes to take the vote and then they go

38:35 No, it was something about the housing financial whatever. Really? Yeah, listen to this. I may regret some of his characterizations of our president, but I won't go into that at this moment. So he's responding to Rand Paul. I will say the following. Let's make the record clear about how we got into this situation and why we got into this situation, which the president said the other night. This wasn't a matter of waiting until Congress came back from its vacation. It was a matter of innocent people being killed in Libya. Slaughtered! There was no mistake what Gaddafi was going to do.

39:10 He said point blank, I'm going to Benghazi, I'm going house to house and room to room and kill people. Did he say that? Did you ever hear, was there any, I googled this, did Gaddafi ever say I'm going to Benghazi house to house to kill people? Did he say that? I never heard it. No of course not. Dick Durbin you liar. My own people. And he added, my own people. I'm gonna kill my own people. You watch. I'm crazy Gaddafi. He said that too. I'm crazy Gaddafi. And if they're my own people, I'm killing them. I'm kidding. Hey, are you my own? You're dead. Shouldn't come as any surprise because he has a history of that. Yeah. Not only killing his own people, but killing those innocent passengers on Pan Am 103. Now I gotta mark that. I have to say something about that. He is a ruthless, bloody dictator.

39:57 so much so that the arab league of nations broke precedent and called for libya to be expelled as long as qaddafi was in charge his own arab league of nations expelled him oh no! his own? he owns it! he's he's maybe his bitch! his bitch turned on him! turned to the united nations and said please stop him from killing his own people will the senator yield for a question? when i finish my statement shut up shut up slave i'd be happy to yield They then said, I'd be happy to yield, they then said, go to the United Nations and create the authority. I'm sorry, and that's where they cut it off, literally. And then they went into... It was just a rant. Yeah, but still... What an a-hole that guy is. So about this, let's just talk about the Pan Air and Flight

CHAPTER 13 / 40 Discussion

Pan Am 103 Bombing and CIA Drug Smuggling Claims

The hosts discuss alternative theories regarding the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing over Lockerbie. They suggest the event was a cover-up for a CIA heroin smuggling operation and that Muammar Gaddafi was framed. They mention the release of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was likely intended to prevent the truth about the investigation from surfacing in court.

pan am 103· lockerbie· cia· heroin· muammar gaddafi

40:49 uh... one oh three for a second you mean the one that was carrying uh... cocaine and uh... and and also there's something to do with syria has something to do it too right so uh... that has never been put out john we've been tracking this uh... mcgraw he uh... this goes back several this was all this is all coming this was all happening and i think that a couple things were going on in the background first of all they let this mcgraw he guy go because his family very rich family was suing uh... the british government about his false imprisonment and no one wants the truth to come above ground about this whole thing because it was about the cia smuggling heroin and

41:30 hit their own and or cocaine on pan am flights they found suitcases full of this stuff this you know the whole thing was a huge cover-up uh... gadaffi gets the blame he may have all scheme gone bad could not be was in the in the crosshairs they blamed him i mean this is been this whole episode if anybody remembers the period was in ninety go back to the british newspapers in nineteen eighty eight i have a little show notes you can read every day for had deep deep research on this most of this stuff was thrown out in court they had it was a kangaroo court they they and then of course and now of course has become public you know kind of in the public consciousness that could often Libya had something to do with it but but at the time there was zero evidence of this it was all linked to the shady some shady scheme that was going on and Syria exactly

CHAPTER 14 / 40 Discussion

Moussa Koussa's Defection and the Rudolph Hess Parallel

Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa arrived at Farnborough Airport in the UK, leading to comparisons with Hitler's lieutenant Rudolph Hess. The hosts debate the historical fate of Hess and the Duke of Kent. They speculate Koussa may be carrying documentation about the Pan Am 103 bombing or Nicolas Sarkozy's election funding to use as leverage.

moussa koussa· rudolph hess· nicolas sarkozy· pan am 103· farnborough

42:20 Now let me give you the fractal. Here's the fractal that will freak you out. You're a fractal guy. So Libya's foreign minister Moussa Koussa, which sounds kind of like a hip-hopper I think. I'm Moussa Koussa here to say yo! Moussa Koussa flew into the UK and immediately everyone's like, oh he's defected! They're running away, the rats are leaving the ship! no no no no no nothing could be further from the truth in fact uh... member of parliament robert half and in united states of get my nation compared kusa's arrival to that of hitler's lieutenant rudolph has in the second world war john would you please take us back in time and explain rudolph has well i don't have to be details that wasn't there but the rudolph has supposedly was coming in the broker a deal right to at least is what was what was perceived and what happened to rudolph has

43:21 I don't know what happened to him, I can't remember. I think he was imprisoned. No, no, no, no, no, no, he died on an unfortunate airplane crash. Oh that's right, that's right. So... Catch me off guard with historical references from the 40s, come on. So of course what was happening... Yeah right, he got killed. Right, and it was... I forget the guy's name now. It was the British elitist who went to go meet the guy and pick him up and he came to negotiate a deal which I believe is what Moussa Koussa is coming to do. He's coming over here and he lands at Farnborough, okay? I know Farnborough Airport.

44:01 You know that's like it's it's the only one you can land without a flight plan with an international flight It's no big deal. Not like it went to Heathrow. Went to Farnborough. Vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv That's what it's about. That's what a lot of this is about. Okay, Rudolph Hess, you got this wrong. Let's just stop before you go on too far. I got it wrong? I was right. He was arrested and held in captivity for the rest of the war and then died in 1987. Who died? The guy who went to... Rudolph Hess. No, I'm sorry. You're right. I'm incorrect. You're thinking of somebody else. No, no. I'm thinking about the guy who went to do the... He was exiled to wherever. Where was he held captive?

44:48 Tess was held life in prison at Spandau in Berlin. No, no, before that he came over. He was tried in Nuremberg. He came over. He flew to Scotland in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom. Instead was arrested and held in captivity for the rest of the war. He was never, nobody ever got to talk to him. He never did a book or anything. So there was something screwy going on. But he wasn't killed. He was just put in a jail and left to rot. You're right. The guy who was killed, hold on a second, I'll tell you who it was. was, um... I'm sorry, oh here, um... He was supposed to... It was a British royal. See, Churchill wanted to go to war and King George VI said to Hess, okay, I'll let you in and you can come and negotiate. It was the Duke of Kent, that's right. The Duke of Kent wanted to fly to Sweden

45:46 uh... to continue the secret peace negotiations but the duke's plane crashed two miles from where has was kept on the shores of lock more that's where he was so he was arrested thrown into lock more first and the duke went over to go and pop them out or make the deal and then the duke's plane crash in churchill you know essentially entered full-out uh... assault with the allies well there's some sort of a skier there was some screwy dealings between the great britain and and germany before the war obviously because of the forgot who was it went over there and then obviously you had the Chamberlain incident and so there was probably some information that was... I mean the fact that they locked him up and threw away the key and wouldn't let anybody like... Yeah, shh, be quiet. Don't say anything. I suspect... I suspect that the guy from Libya is coming over with the documentation about what really happened with the Pan Am flight which I'm sure...

46:44 saying hey we're gonna blow the lid off this thing and that Sarkozy jerk-off who we got in office we're gonna talk about that too So something bad's gonna happen to this character because he thinks he can get away with this. Yeah, no that something bad's gonna happen him but I also I don't think it matters anymore because our media is so completely brainwashed and now will take us on a different path my friend. We have had yet another case of the mysterious crazy talking stuff from our television hosts and I believe that this is part of an MKUltra program and this has now happened to yet a new person

CHAPTER 15 / 40 Discussion

Media Reporters and On-Air Incoherence Incidents

A series of incidents involving television reporters speaking incoherently on air is discussed, including Serene Branson and a reporter from Toronto. The hosts also note that Judge Judy (Judith Sheindlin) was recently hospitalized after becoming incoherent during a taping. While officially described as medical issues, the hosts explore alternative explanations.

serene branson· judge judy· mkultra· stroke· medical emergency

47:25 uh... what i would like to uh... remind us first of is uh... what has been happening three reporters in a row on air all of a sudden start speaking like idiots let us recap of the first one general jb van holland says wisconsin is the latest state including iowa kansas main ohio and wyoming to join florida suit states claiming the exorcist saw unjust racho and play health first. Right, that was the, remember that woman? That was the first one. She just goes nuts. Don't try to deconstruct what she says, she just goes... I gotta get that South Carolina clip. I think that's the one. That's the one. No, no, the South Carolina, the girl who won Miss South Carolina. Oh, okay. The beauty queen. So this was the first reporter. Now we have the second reporter at the award show. Very first time, Saree.

48:21 Well, a very, very heavy, heavy do it, vertation tonight. We had a very derison, derison, but let's go to Terry's English for the bit. They have the pet. Right. So that was awesome. Remember her? That was Serena. These people just talking double talk. It sounds like something from a comedy act. So for her they say, oh no this is a medical incident and of course she went to the emergency room came out an hour later and you know it's inconclusive. What she had a stroke on the air? You're not allowed to make fun of this by the way because oh there was a medical condition man. No no no it's not and I can and I think I have proof.

48:59 And then of course we have our guy from Toronto. Now, Defence Minister McCain McLeod did confirm today that more than 64 fighter jets are spending about as much as 20 and ready to is and by the way most canadians kind of talk like this anyway assist the six hundred uh... a hundred deployed over the and out needed now he did it depend that the no land emerges are and while the university or the u n mission as whole receives a report from all batteries in the

49:37 Hughes of the the Garvin's of today excuse me right I'll hand it back right you better hand it back okay, so And I and we laugh about this on the last show immediately people like you didn't sit there and edit this to make the guy not like it No, immediately that's the way it actually came over the air. No, so you get these clips from the interwebs This is the beauty of it. So, um, it's video. It's not audio. It's video. You can see it's unedited. Now immediately I get some of our, uh, our good people from up north. I was just kidding about Canadians, by the way. I love you guys. You got a much better gig going than we do. I'm jealous. I'm just jealous. Okay. Jealous. Um, immediately I get, that's not funny, man. I can't believe it's a new low point. New low low. You're so low. Making fun of a medical condition. Well, first of all,

50:27 uh... nowhere has there been any official releasing this was a medical issue the guy had his people have been they come up with this new phrase like uh... point yeah like and and new if i can you identify a new low point on this show the average thank you stop possible but now justin john An incoherent Judge Judy told shocked audience members she needed to stop one of her made-for-tv cases before because she was not feeling well. Judge Shindlin, that's Judge Judy's real name, was rushed to a Los Angeles hospital Wednesday morning after she suddenly started saying things that didn't make sense, a studio insider revealed. She was just sitting on the stand during her show taping and she started saying things that didn't make sense, a source close to the situation said.

CHAPTER 16 / 40 Discussion

Microwave Auditory Effect and Mind Control Research

The hosts examine government papers regarding the use of modulated low-power microwaves to create intelligible speech within a subject's head. Citing a Freedom of Information Act request from Brooks Air Force Base and NASA, they discuss the potential for electromagnetic radiation to control sleep patterns or inject words into the brain. They suggest these technologies might be tested on low-level media figures.

nasa· brooks air force base· microwaves· mkultra· electromagnetic radiation

51:17 So we don't have the audio unfortunately but she probably was doing the same thing. So I'm doing some research. Where is this coming from? I'm already thinking to myself shouldn't this be in the second half of the show? No, because we have to explain why none of the information is going to make it into the media because everyone is mind-controlled. This actually, this phenomenon occurs. Government papers I'm reading from right here linked in the show notes noagendershow.com or seanhannity.com The phenomena occurs... Here it is. When people are illuminated with properly modulated low-power microwaves, the sensation is reported as a buzzing, clicking or hissing which seems to originate within or just behind the head. The phenomenon occurs at an average power density as low as microwatts per square centimeter with carrier frequencies from 0.4 to 3.0 gigahertz

52:16 By proper choice of Paul's characteristics, intelligible speech may be created. Before this technique may be extended and used for military applications, an understanding of the basic principles must be developed." This is an old paper, of course. So it's one of two things. Either these reporters are in somehow the microwave that is shooting up the signal to the satellite back to the studio is beaming into their brain, which I think is possible. It's very possible. Or they're just all NK Ultra controlled, which is the one I prefer. Well, let's take a look at a couple of things here, especially considering the fact that you've been criticized for bringing up that other woman last show, which is... Guy. The guy. This is not a phenomenon that has been reported over time a lot. No. No, it's... So we have a bunch of incidents all at once. Now, that, of course, also is a reflection of the random number theory, which means that if something's gonna happen, it's gonna happen a lot and it's never gonna happen again. I do...

53:20 Now, I can imagine you could have a, you know, Wi-Fi might be able to cause this problem. Could be, Wi-Fi, could be. And you know, with some of these canned antennas, the Wi-Fi that is actually targeted could be targeted at somebody. Somebody bumped one of these antennas and it goes right in the back of somebody's head and next thing you know they're babbling. It's a possibility. Yeah. And until I see it happen with Bob Gregory or one of these guys on a real show. Why does it happen to Obama while he's on the, reading the teleprompter? That would be the end. That would be so awesome. That would be so fantastic. So yeah, it could be some experiment going on with lower level people and then you know, it might be just a bunch of guys in the back just laughing it up because they know they can do it.

54:07 do this i think we need to experiment with this regardless that i thought i'm at this i'd just kind of this only came in this morning so i haven't had time to do all the research and this is just uh... from a freedom of information request from uh... nasa uh... the brooks air force base yes no not that it was requested from nasa yeah data yeah brooks air force base is from january twenty fifth two thousand how would anybody know to ask for this i have my people No, I mean you didn't do the Freedom of Information Act. No, no of course not. What I'm saying is how did the, why was the Freedom of Information Act filed in the first place? Because... Unless you knew something. Because people outside of the mainstream actually care about what's going on. This is requested by C. Margo Churney who is, yeah, yep, that's one of those people. One of my people. C. Margo Churney

55:09 uh... from educate dash yourself dot org need i say more educate yourself uh... dot orgs actually i kind of it's a good site they have a lot of uh... uh... a lot of uh... no all-star notes well research they got papers and he got papers yet So reported symptoms, microwave hearing, transmission of specific commands of the subconscious, visual disturbances, visual hallucinations, inject words numbers into brain via electromagnetic radiation waves, control of sleep patterns, seeing through as in seeing through your eyes. Wow okay that's out there.

55:51 And then there's tons of published documents from the NASA Air Force, microwaves, weapons study. I'm just saying. Well, so you definitely found the clips and you got some background on it. It's very unusual. I'll give you 10 points for coming up with something off the wall. Totally weird. We don't know why. No, keep, yeah, to what? I mean, if you want to go with your MKUltra thing, which I'm not going to buy into, because, I mean, why are you doing it with these low-level people? I think that there's some experimentation going on with this, possibly with this technique. Well, okay, so there's two reasons for doing it with these low-level people. One, to see if it works while someone is on the air, at a public, you know, this is, it would be perfect to use this

56:36 uh... to embarrass someone publicly for once and for all right all you know if you get a bit about president maybe this is a lead into the presidential debates for twenty twelve Oh wow, that would be great. And of course, yeah, of course, and there's a secondary reason. It's funny. Come on, man. You know, it's funny. Those guys just go like, watch this, watch this, watch this. Yeah, there would be a tendency to abuse it. So we will see more of this. So you're going to track this in the weeks ahead. Yeah, I think we will see more of this worldwide. And this is low level people now. But who knows?

57:12 Who knows? Maybe it's being used all the time on Wolf Blitzer. I mean, come on, Anderson Cooper. It's possible. So let me go into a couple of things that I ran into, and this relates back to both Al Jazeera and Cutter, and a clip that I'm still fascinated with, which I'm going to ask you to play again. I sent you a note about it. Yeah. Because I think we need to revisit this clip, which was the Wesley Clark clip. You want me to play it now? Yeah, just play it and do the setup again because this was what, 2004? When was this? 2007, before we were doing the show at a Democracy Now! conference. There's actually a second clip that goes along with that where he talks about a total takeover by PNAC

CHAPTER 17 / 40 Discussion

Wesley Clark's Seven Countries Memo Revisit

The hosts replay a 2007 clip of General Wesley Clark describing a 2001 Pentagon memo. The memo detailed a plan to "take out" seven countries in five years, including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. This is used to frame the current events in Libya as part of a long-standing geopolitical strategy.

wesley clark· pentagon· iraq· syria· libya

56:36 uh... to embarrass someone publicly for once and for all right all you know if you get a bit about president maybe this is a lead into the presidential debates for twenty twelve Oh wow, that would be great. And of course, yeah, of course, and there's a secondary reason. It's funny. Come on, man. You know, it's funny. Those guys just go like, watch this, watch this, watch this. Yeah, there would be a tendency to abuse it. So we will see more of this. So you're going to track this in the weeks ahead. Yeah, I think we will see more of this worldwide. And this is low level people now. But who knows?

57:12 Who knows? Maybe it's being used all the time on Wolf Blitzer. I mean, come on, Anderson Cooper. It's possible. So let me go into a couple of things that I ran into, and this relates back to both Al Jazeera and Cutter, and a clip that I'm still fascinated with, which I'm going to ask you to play again. I sent you a note about it. Yeah. Because I think we need to revisit this clip, which was the Wesley Clark clip. You want me to play it now? Yeah, just play it and do the setup again because this was what, 2004? When was this? 2007, before we were doing the show at a Democracy Now! conference. There's actually a second clip that goes along with that where he talks about a total takeover by PNAC

58:02 the project for a new american century and what that means we don't need any of the need to know that was okay and then he goes in and he says this is what happened on september twentieth while it was in the pentagon uh... not even three weeks after the uh... by two weeks after the attack uh... on uh... new york uh... and on nine eleven about ten days after nine eleven i went to the pentagon i saw secretary rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me and one of the generals called me and he said, sir you gotta come in and talk to me a second. I said, well you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why?

58:50 He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al-Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says there's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but We've got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper and he said, I just

59:36 He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. Had there been no oil there, it would be like Africa. Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa. The problem is the opposite. We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it. And there's no question that the presence of petroleum throughout the region has sparked great power involvement. Whether that was the specific motivation for the coup or not, I can't tell you. But there was definitely, there's always been this attitude that somehow we could intervene and use force in the region.

1:00:27 There you go. I set it up for you in the chat room was like they're running out of content They're playing clips from the last show. They got nothing sent me a note. I just said that we played Anyone even listening to the show call Intel Pro in the chat room John that's what? Anyway, the reason I wanted that replay so it could bring it into the clips I want to play which relate in an odd way to this and We already talked about Qatar, we already talked about MI6, and we talked about Al Jazeera. So, one of the top reporters from Al Jazeera, whose name is unpronounceable, was talking to the Council on Foreign Relations. Okay. And he is...

CHAPTER 18 / 40 Discussion

Al Jazeera Reporter on the Egyptian Revolution

An Al Jazeera reporter speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations admits he was initially skeptical that protests in Egypt would become significant. He describes how the "rules of the game" changed on January 25th. The hosts argue this suggests the revolutions were not organic but were part of the broader strategy previously mentioned by Wesley Clark.

al jazeera· egypt· tunisia· council on foreign relations· revolution

1:01:11 and they got three clips from this guy in this first clip triggered this whole thought in the reason i want to replay the other clips so he reminded people but play the egypt is next clip for starters and this is a big gain in front of the council for relations this guy's reporter discussing what what's ball going on and what i did take on some of it well when i was standing in the village of cd was need where this man had set himself on fire uh... every single person i spoke to Tunis was just the beginning. And you know, I was very at the time very surprised that they were saying this because they had a great sense of pride in that they had begun this revolution in Tunisia. But everyone that I was speaking to was saying when they find out when they found out that I was based in Egypt would say to me, Egypt is next, Egypt is next. And I would kind of be somewhat, you know, suspicious of it. In fact,

1:02:02 Okay, okay now now okay, so that was weird yeah, I thought it he thought it was weird This is a this is an Egyptian, and he thought it was weird mm-hmm So, play the part two of this clip and then I'm going to break it down a little bit into what's interesting to me about it. The calls for the protest to happen on January 25th had already begun shortly after I had arrived in Egypt. And I'm going to make a confession here which is that one of my friends at Al Jazeera messaged me saying, you know, are you going to go back for the protests on January 25th? And I dismissed them saying like, oh don't worry they're not going to be anything big, I can promise you that. You know, it's just... So you're not a soothsayer? No, no, definitely not. But I will admit this, that as soon as January the 25th happened, I was on the first flight out from Tunis on the 26th in the morning. I hopped on a flight straight from Tunisia to Turkey and to Cairo because I knew that the 25th had changed the rules of the game.

1:03:00 Okay, now here's what my thinking is, because I heard this the first time, I said this is kind of interesting, this Egypt is next thing, which falls into line with what Wesley Clark had uncovered. And here's what I'm thinking here. Here's a guy who's an Egyptian, works at Feral Jazeera, he's totally plugged in. He thinks when he gets texted, you're gonna come to the, you know, the little demonstration. He as an Egyptian on the street who happens to be floating around all of the Middle East says, this, nothing's gonna happen here. This is bogus. There's no reason for this to be anything. Nothing to see here.

1:03:37 So he obviously had a sense of the reality which was there was nothing going on and there wouldn't be anything going on so he just passed it off. And then when all of a sudden all hell breaks loose, he's on top of it at that point but now it seems like the whole thing was rigged. I mean he never brings that up but just by his own reaction to what people were asking him or telling him, he just thought the thing was kind of fishy. And I think that this relates to that Wesley Clark thing. So this is underway, this entire strategy, and of course Al Jazeera is part of it, even though he doesn't even know that, but he's part of Qatar. I mean, that's where the operation is based. And this is just continuing. There's a part three of this that you can play, and it just brings up a few more details. And they had already begun calling for that Friday the 28th being the day of anger or day of rage.

1:04:27 And so we knew that that was going to be a monumental showdown. Your editors don't have some email that says, ah, the 25th, it's not going to be anything significant. No, we actually, I mean, to their credit, we did have people on the ground. It's just that when my friends were messaging me saying, you know, what do you think is going to happen on January the 25th? Shouldn't you be back in Egypt for it? I was very much like, no, Tunisia is still the big story. It's the revolution. We're still trying to cover this. And lo and behold, I was wrong. Okay, so now it's January 26th and you're in Egypt. Where did you go? You can kill it there. It actually falls apart. No, it was interesting. Another part of C-SPAN that I watched was the Congressional Television and Radio Correspondents' Dinner.

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Media's Role in Middle East Revolutions

The hosts critique the media's self-congratulatory attitude regarding the role of Facebook and Twitter in Middle East revolutions. They argue that Al Jazeera has shifted from an anti-American outlet to a tool for Western interests. The reporting from Tripoli is characterized as "theater" reminiscent of the film Wag the Dog.

facebook· twitter· al jazeera· tripoli· wag the dog

1:05:07 This is kind of a self-congratulatory thing and I thought I could pull some clips from it but I couldn't really. I've never been able to get clips from those things. No, but the whole thing essentially is them saying these revolutions are because of Facebook, Twitter and the media. And I'm like, yeah, you're not lying. But they actually believe that they are helping people start revolution. And yeah, but you're not helping the people start the revolution. You're helping your handlers who are almost invisible to you starting the revolution. But the thing that irked me is, you know, because there's lots of people standing up and then they point out people every single time that even mention whether it's a reporter or even the word Al Jazeera, everyone goes, oh, yeah.

1:05:59 It's like, wow, it's like Al Jazeera is the pinnacle. If only we could all work at Al Jazeera. You know, Al Jazeera when it began was just seen as an anti-Israeli news organization that was busting, you know, the US chops in Iraq mainly and in Afghanistan to a lesser extent with a lot of reporting behind the scenes, reporting that American news media couldn't get because most of them were white. and they looked, they kind of stood out in a crowd and they would get shot at. And Al Jazeera was covering a lot of this stuff and most of it kind of anti-American. It was, I would call Al Jazeera when it began as an anti-American vehicle. And what happened to change that and when it changed, I don't absolutely know, but it obviously changed. And now that, how did, and it's like nobody's, nobody's mentioning the, the origins of this operation. No.

1:06:52 Now, but the whole, what's the problem with the news, and you don't have to watch it anymore, by the way. You just don't. You don't have to watch it. They're all microwaved in the submission. The problem with the news is they are so horny. They're so horny to be in a war situation reporting. You know, it's a dichotomy to me to see this CNN senior correspondent, Nick the British Douchebag, who's always there in, he's right near Tripoli, he's in Tripoli, yes like for all these horrible things in this and and for uh... uh... gaddafi who's slaughtering and murdering and has to meet hitler and stalin is it but he just lets the press sit there you know i go you know wait for the bus boys will tell you when you can come on out dislike it's bull crap the whole thing it's uh... it wag the dog please watch wag the dog you're just watching theater

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's London Conference Press Briefing

Hillary Clinton provided a "book report" style update on her meetings at the London Conference on Libya. She discussed the Transitional National Council and the implementation of UN Resolution 1973. The hosts mock her delivery and her mention of meeting with Dr. Mahmoud Jibril, emphasizing the lack of transparency regarding the rebel leadership.

hillary clinton· libya· transitional national council· resolution 1973· london

1:07:44 complete theater yes told theater and and i got a good some hillary clips here which kind of uh... please gold please humble please i have my blood pressure isn't high enough yes we're making season papa being i will which one babbling in a minute Let's start with, for one thing, let's play Hillary 1, which is a... Hillary was at this London Council on Libya. Yes. And she came out at the end and gave her... Her question and answer session. She did it, well, she actually started off with like a little speech. Yeah. And I have a... actually, we want to play something that's kind of funny. You can play it and stop it when you feel like it. Skip Hillary 1 and go to the Hillary book report.

1:08:27 she actually when she begins her speech I swear to God it sounds like a high school book report. I've just said it's so lame it's like how does anybody what whose idea is this to to give a little report on what you did today? Like yeah I know it's like and and then I really liked what happened and here comes. I did a very full day of business I was really really busy first I had my hair done and then I got this really nice brooch. Did you see all the brooch? This New World Order all thing I brooch? Did you see that John? The brooch she was wearing? Yeah she had some weird brooch on. Oh yeah, oh yeah. It was to receive the microwave better. Covering an array of issues with a broad range of counterparts. I began the day with a meeting with Dr. Gibrill. Dr. Gibrill who is of course studying Philly.

1:09:18 He's been in Philly. Alright, this is the leadership. Did you know that they also mentioned that they listen to this little group that they put together out of the blue like the bankers? Well before before we go on did you know that the other guy I just got to find his name real quick The other guy who's part of the new what they call it the transitional government, whatever That's what she sees. She gives the name of this operation. Yeah, the other guy was living in in Virginia for 20 years Oh, Virginia I spook central really what was he did he had no job he was just kind of living there and living large and two other representatives of the Libyan transitional National Council the Libyan transitional National Council if it has a really long name it must be official

1:10:02 They have a website. To hear their perspective on the situation in Libya. We talked about our efforts to protect civilians and to meet humanitarian needs and about the ongoing coalition military action in support of Resolution 1973. We also discussed the need for a political solution and transition in Libya. And I reiterated the support of the United States on behalf of President Obama for the legitimate aspirations of the Libyan people and our commitment to helping them achieve those aspirations. Wow, and then we went out for dinner and we had Chinese food and it was really good. You can stop it, Derek. You can stop it, Derek. It is bull... who cares? Yeah, no, but she has to justify her existence.

CHAPTER 21 / 40 Discussion

Arms Transfers and the $33 Billion Asset Question

During a Q&A, Hillary Clinton addressed questions about using the $33 billion in seized assets to fund the Libyan rebels. She stated that no decision had been made regarding arming the rebels, focusing instead on nonlethal assistance. The hosts note the mention of "flickers" of Al-Qaeda within the opposition forces.

hillary clinton· libya· arms transfers· al-qaeda· nonlethal assistance

1:10:50 She goes on the longs, yeah exactly, she goes on a long book report and you know this is like working for the government where you have to fill out a log of what you did. So she's got this huge report, she's done it, okay now she has to take questions and answers. So, we'll start with the first one which is a softball, I think this is from a Reuters guy. This is Clip Hillary. Who she all mentions again by their first name. Oh yeah. Of course. Madam Secretary, in your meeting today with Dr. Jabril, I was wondering, were you able to make any concrete offers of assistance to them? Either through turning over the $33 billion in Libyan funds that have been frozen in the United States or in discussing possible arms transfers?

1:11:31 Hey hey, Ixnay on the 33 Iliyan Bay. Davridis told the Senate today that intelligence shows flickers, he used the word flickers, of Al-Qaeda. Which by the way is very funny because in Dutch and I think German, flickers is gaze. saying that flickers flicker a bunch of flickers over there in the libyan opposition how great a concern is that is that part of the u s debate over any potential arms transfers to the transitional council well andy first of all we have not made any decision about uh... arming the rebels or uh... providing any arms transfers uh... so there has not been any

1:12:09 any need to discuss that at this point. We did discuss nonlethal assistance. We discussed ways of trying to enable the transition National Council to meet a lot of their financial needs and how we could do that through the international community. With some of that 33 bill we got laying around. Yeah she goes on about that so guys let's skip to the next clip which is Hillary 2 because now we have a guy from the Daily Telegraph which is a British paper and instead of Madam Secretary just go he doesn't give her any any respect and just goes on and asks a very interesting question which she I was surprised she didn't

CHAPTER 23 / 40 Discussion

Covert Authorization and Potential False Flag Scenarios

Reports indicate President Obama has signed a presidential finding authorizing covert action in Libya, potentially involving arms transfers through Saudi Arabia or Qatar. Adam Curry predicts a "false flag" terrorist attack attributed to Gaddafi will be used to justify putting boots on the ground. He suggests this event could happen imminently to distract from financial news.

barack obama· saudi arabia· false flag· nato· covert action

1:16:29 nothing and nothing uh... now we're gonna arm them da almost like a missing it there are two weeks so far as reported by reuters is that one of the uh... one of the options the president is considering is sending arms to the saudis and the gutter ease uh... that seems like a somewhat circuitous way of accomplishing the same goal But, you know, whether he goes forward with this without congressional approval, I think it's going to be one of the biggest decisions of the Obama presidency. So to be clear, though, so that we understand as best as we can based on what the reporting is right now, because the microwave is in my head, what has just happened? If he has issued a presidential finding, that is an authorization of covert. Is this that cow? Is this Rachel?

1:17:13 boom. as you describe it something that's designed to influence. you're war mongering bitch you. influence action not just get information and it could also be a way that the president was trying to at least lay the groundwork for starting to provide arms to the rebels but we don't know what the finding is and so we don't know exactly what it is authorizing. we don't know precisely what it is it's by its nature classified so we won't see this for decades if at all. if at all. look public publicly i've tried talk to white house officials tonight and they'd say look this is something arming the the uh... the libyan rebels is something the president is certainly seriously considering and what's more he realizes they realize that they've got to make a decision on this soon given the events on the ground how fast it's moving and the massacre slaughter libyans have faced over the last couple of days uh... it may be too late if those arms uh...

1:18:09 if this drags on for weeks or months. So I think we're approaching decision time and it's a pretty big decision. Let me emphasize that we anticipate this transition to take place in a matter of days and not a matter of weeks. Just days, just days everybody, just days. Okay, John. They're gonna arm the rebels. They're gonna be next. You want to hear my scenario that before we finish is what I think what my prediction is what the fractal looks like and how it's gonna work out. Yeah, go for it. Because of this, we're changing it to NATO and we're not gonna put any boots on the ground except in humanitarian reasons. Yeah.

1:18:49 there is going to be some sort of a bogus red flag terrorist attack from Qaddafi. It's going to thus give us the absolute, you know, we've been attacked. Yeah, false flag, not red flag, false flag. I'm sorry, red flag, false flag. John, we do the show on the fly. It's a false flight some sort of an event will take place which will be a direct attack and assault on the USA and thus we have to send troops and this one goes war number three we're in it. Okay, and I will predict that this has to happen today or tomorrow.

CHAPTER 24 / 40 Discussion

Federal Reserve Transparency and DHS Public Service Announcements

The Supreme Court has ordered the Federal Reserve to release a list of banks that received secret emergency loans. The hosts link this to the need for a media distraction. They also play a public service announcement featuring Janet Napolitano and the NCAA, encouraging citizens to report suspicious activity at sporting events.

federal reserve· janet napolitano· ncaa· bloomberg· homeland security

1:19:25 if only for the reason, because remember I promised I'd stay on top of this, the Federal Reserve today is going to release the information about all the banks they secretly gave the money to. They're going to release the whole list, the Supreme Court ordered them to. A reporter at Bloomberg died over this, the guy who really filed the first lawsuit. Remember he died unfortunately at a very young age. Whoops! How'd that happen? I think it was a total two to the head instance for him. So today they have to announce that. I think that they'll come out with the news. Of course it's going to be very very quiet that they release this but it is today. I think it was supposed to be Monday but somehow they delayed it to today. That has to be covered up. So they might as well get two birds with one stone, huge false flag. It can be anything. Just be on the lookout for it. John, I totally agree. I totally agree that's how it's going to go.

1:20:19 And it's sad. Then we'll have boots on the ground. Boots on the ground. All these apologies. Well, we had to do it. We're under attack. This is for the national security and the rest of it. Meanwhile, let's know. Homeland Security will hire more people. We'll be working for them eventually. Who says I'm not? The Homeland Security Show with John and Adam. Hey everybody. Hey Adam, I see you and I'm still safe. Hey John, I'm Adam. How are you feeling today? Do you feel safe? John, I feel really safe. How are you feeling Johnny boy? Let's hear from our director, Lucy Napolitano. Oh, okay. I have something from our director, Lucy Napolitano. Hi, I'm Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Hi, I'm Mark Emmert, President of the NCAA. Homeland security is a team effort and it starts with individuals and communities around our country.

1:21:15 That's why the NCAA is partnering with DHS to help keep our communities safe. If you see something suspicious on your way into the arena or at the game, say something to local authorities to make it right. We all have a role to play. Report suspicious activity to local law enforcement. Thank you for doing your part to help keep our community safe and enjoy the game. That'll be our whole show. Yeah, we'll be making three times as much money. Millions I tell you. All right, now I just want to remind everybody that what John and I do for this show is essentially,

1:21:55 It's what any journalist could do and until the microwaves are directed at the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center will continue to actually do the work of journalists which is just collect information. A lot of what I get comes through the noagendanewsnetwork.com site and a big corner turn coming on that with new software we can open it up to all the producers you know love it when you see this thing i'm telling you gonna because what what happens is a lot of the stuff does get reported or it's in press releases of mainly press releases and once you know the information flows through it kinda comes to the system we pick it up and all we're doing is just playing it back and trying to fit it into a couple hours uh... twice a week but it's a lot of work as you can tell from the complaining with don uh... a lot of c-span watching dot takes place

CHAPTER 25 / 40 Discussion

NPR's Funding Model and the Audience as Product

The hosts analyze a segment from NPR's Planet Money that admits commercial media treats the audience as the product sold to advertisers. John Dvorak shares his experience at PC Magazine, where the audience was curated specifically for high-end tech advertisers. They contrast this with the No Agenda value-for-value model which avoids outside influence.

npr· planet money· bill ziff· pc magazine· advertising

1:22:43 The only way we can do all this and speak as openly and frankly is by not taking advertising dollars By not having any outside influence so it works on a very simple premise you support the show with your giving levels now a Lot of people are confused that our national treasure NPR has the same motive unfortunately There's a big discussion going on now about how much the government is funding them, which is not very much actually, because most of the money comes from... where does it come from, John? Advertising. Or whatever you want to call it. So there's a show on NPR called Planet Money, and I'm so happy they actually just admitted it. A wrinkle here when you're considering federal funding for NPR.

1:23:30 If NPR deserves federal funding because it's this weird public good that will be under-provided without government assistance, what about other radio stations? Or other podcasts? They are also public goods. They're just like NPR. They're non-rivalrous. That's right. Are we rivalrous, John? No. They're not excludable? Are we excludable? No. So what about Kiss 100? Or even television, broadcast television? How about American Idol? Did The Bachelor get federal money? And no one seems to argue that we need public funding for those things. and why is that now listen very very closely and you'll hear the difference between our product which is bringing you actual and as far as we know factual information versus you the listener being the product listen carefully well follow me friends through the looking glass it turns out there is another way to view broadcast media and public radio where none of it looks like a public good at all alright so listeners are you ready to have your minds blown?

1:24:28 This sounds like Kyle from South Park, doesn't he? It's like, listeners, get ready to have your minds blown. I'm going to blow your mind. I'm going to blow your mind. Listen to this. You're not going to believe what you're going to hear. Think about it this way. So normally you think, for a radio broadcast, the listener, you know, you're the consumer, and the product is the radio programming that you're listening to, but which the radio producer has no way of charging you for. But now think about it differently. Think about you as the product and the advertisers as the customers. The people who run a radio station can sell your ears to the advertisers and most commercial radio and television think about it that way. The product is the audience and they are selling that audience. What? That's a fact. That is the way all commercial publishing companies and broadcasters think about the mechanism. The audience is the product and the product is being sold to the advertisers.

1:25:19 But it's not just... And that's by the way, before you go on with that clip, that's why PBS is so left-leaning. People are always moaning and groaning about it. But in any specialty operation, in fact we have a, we actually do have a product, we don't sell it to anybody though, that's the difference between what we do. But the fact of the matter is, like, let me just give an example when we were at PC Magazine and this was explained to me by Bill Ziff himself. This was one of the reasons that PC Magazine, when it was in its heyday, would never publish anything for beginners. Because they said, you guys should have a beginner's section in there so you can explain how computer technology works to people who don't know. We didn't want beginners reading the magazine. We had an audience that was so well defined

1:25:59 and so specific, they were high end, they were purchasers, they were the tech guys at a corporation, they were very easy to pinpoint, you could put them in a room, and they'd all get along with each other. You didn't want a bunch of amateurs and crazy people that were off on the deep end on supercomputing or whatever. And you could take this group and they were so concise and specific, you could take it to an advertiser like Dell or somebody like that and say, look, here are the people that buy your product, We've made, we put them all together, we got a million of them. Give us some money and you can talk to them. And that's the way all media works. And that's what happens. You end up, you end up, you end up essentially working for the advertiser, creating this little crowd of people for them, not for the benefit of them, but for them, for the, for the advertiser, not for the benefit of the, of the, of the reader I'm saying, or the listener in the case of what we do.

CHAPTER 26 / 40 Discussion

The Scam of Public Radio Underwriting

The hosts argue that NPR operates a "scam" by collecting revenue from three sources: corporate underwriters, government subsidies, and listener donations. They dispute claims that NPR does not use traditional advertising metrics, noting that the NPR Foundation uses commercial media brokers like Media America to sell inventory based on listener numbers.

npr· underwriting· pbs· media america· government subsidies

1:26:53 You're creating it all for the purpose of, all, and if you want to listen to any podcast that have advertising, you're going to always find that they're kind of trying to take you the listener and make you a product that they're selling. You're basically being used. You are being whored like a long-legged mack daddy pimping your ass. But of course that doesn't... In other words, yes. But that doesn't happen with NPR, our national treasure, does it, John? No, no, no, no, no, no, because we're independent. We don't sell you as a product. Let's listen to them what they say themselves about it. And most commercial radio and television think about it that way. The product is the audience and they are selling that audience to the advertisers. If you're trying to fund a radio show, a TV show through advertising, you've effectively turned it from a public good into a private good.

1:27:45 But the customers are not the people who are viewers. The customers are the people who are actually paying for it, who are the advertisers. And advertising is rivalrous. One advertising slot uses up time that then can't go to another advertiser. And it's excludable. If the advertiser doesn't pay, you don't run that advertiser's message. So for a long time, the solution to that particular public good problem was, well, sure, it's a public good, from the point of view of the viewers, but from the point of view of the advertisers, it's a private good and we can provide it in a private market and no problem. That's so confusing because now you take public radio, you think about it one way, it feels very natural, it qualifies as a public good. You think about it another way, all of a sudden it's not a public good. All of a sudden the product is the audience and you're selling that to advertisers. Which we do, we call them underwriters. They're not advertisers exactly, but they have a lot of the same characteristics.

1:28:37 I predict planet money will be off the air soon. These guys are out. Just hear that one more time. The product is the audience and you're selling that to advertisers. Which we do, we call them underwriters. We call them underwriters. So, well the great scam of public radio or NPR and not public radio in general because there are you know some public radio I mean it's a different animal in different ways but of NPR is that they can do the real gimmick which I think is genius and why they get so much money and then they can sucker the... Let's look at this overall. These guys are smarter than the average bear. First of all

1:29:22 They can sell the audience to these underwriter quote advertisers whatever you want to call them. they can sell them without having numbers. They don't have to say, well, you know, we got our Nielsen's just came in. That is not true. That is patently not true. Absolutely not true. The NPR Foundation sells through commercial media brokers. I know them. It's Media America in New York City. They sell based upon numbers and inventory. Not true. It's completely commercial. I disagree. I mean, I'm not saying they don't do that when they have numbers. But most shows don't have numbers. Oh, you don't think that they don't say here's our podcast downloads? Oh, please. Oh, please. Oh the well I happen to have been in the public radio sector for a while I happen to be in the radio selling side I the same people who sold my Pepsi's top 30 hit list were selling NPR Okay, I'm at the local level too, which is different your local guy. I'm I think big

1:30:24 So, uh, what the point is, is that they got a scam going with the advertising, A. B, then they get government money for some unknown reason, and by the way, that only accounts for one-fifth of their budget. They said so in that same show. Ten percent, ten percent, ten percent. No, they said one-fifth. No, that's twenty percent. to one-fifth of the budget be twenty one who got fired schiller i mean resigned said it was ten percent but uh... irrelevant whatever and it's way whatever the case is it this is a spit in the bucket they can just crank up the advertising and then the third the scam that's the scam of scams is that you we got advertising we got government subsidies and now we want your money

CHAPTER 27 / 40 Discussion

Value-for-Value Donations and Listener Karma

The hosts acknowledge various donations, including 3,333 Russian rubles from Patrick McCurnan. Andrew Bump shares a "post-karmic" story involving high fructose corn syrup and exit 333. Other donors include Massimo Cattaneo and Zoran Ivanovici. The hosts remind listeners to check their PayPal subscriptions as people are frequently dropped from the system.

patrick mcurnan· andrew bump· massimo cattaneo· zoran ivanovici· paypal

1:31:04 So they got three sources of income whereas a normal broadcast network has one. Yeah. And we have one. Yeah, one. Yeah. What you complaining about? Where's our government money? We're doing a public service more than those guys are. What? Say what? Where's our government money? You ain't getting no government money. I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. I was awesome. They what we have some donors good and We're gonna rattle off their names and I by the way I could not find media splash send me another note because I looked it up and I don't I don't have it either and Eric sends me at like 10 minutes to 9. Oh look up email media splash. It's not helpful. Well, it's not helpful. I'm sorry. It's not helpful. Sorry. I have Andrews Andrew story

1:32:11 It's just not helpful. Well, media, well, yeah, the people are going to have to, you know, you, there's a box to fill out in PayPal or mail a check in and attach a letter. But to have, but this, once you separate the, uh, the message from the donation, it's, it's, I get 400 emails a day. Yeah. You know, it's a mess. I mean, it's like, yeah, you listen to Adam. Oh, you're disorganized. No, no, no, I get the same amount of emails. It's Eric just pushing it off. I'm sorry. Eric doesn't have the memo. What's he supposed to do? Well, how does he know about the memo?

1:32:48 because it says in the in the paypal thing it had a mention of it then he then he needs to go in an email and say hey you gotta send me this now or it's not going to be on the show. Well he doesn't get that until 8 in the morning one hour before the show. It's a whole hour. Don't will you... are you standing up for him? I'm just saying I don't blame Eric like you're doing. I'm not blaming him I'm saying it's not helpful Well, it's not unhelpful because the other thing was in there. Anyway, Patrick McCurnan of Nashville, New Hampshire gave us 3,333 Russian rubles. I was like, what? Did they still use the ruble?

1:33:33 Well yeah, of course. Which amounts to $117.85. Andrew Bump by Cary, Illinois. We got a bunch of $111.11 and he's got a Karma Need which we'll have to look up again. It's another one that's separated. Hold on I got Andrew Andrew's I have okay good. Well you want to read it. Yeah It's it's way too long But essentially we met and I'm sorry You. In my donation last time I requested a double dose of the good stuff to clear my good name of douche status and get some karma for the job search that would be following the inevitable demise of the company I was working for at the time. On air I received my de-douche which I'm thankful for but then proceeded to get Dvorak'd on my karma. John was apparently in a hurry as right when it seemed you were gearing up to give me a dose of karma you said you'd get back to it later. Well we all know that wasn't going to happen at that point.

1:34:30 So you know long-winded stuff we have to cut these yeah, no we can't be here This is not the you know the XYZ show where we just can read and read and read and read and read it along We got to move it along so anyway, so he's like loses his job. Everything's going crap It's horrible, but then good karma comes along He gets a job The karma came from a couple of things he says are my way my one-way commute is 1.5 hours and one of the many X's I pass on the highway to and from work every day is the only exit that leads to work is exit 333 a Month after starting position a very large and out-of-place highway advertisement went up about a mile before exit 333 the advertisement is for McDonald's new filet o fish value meal priced in large lettering at three dollars and thirty three cents and

1:35:21 To top it off my new job is process automation engineering for mixing high fructose corn syrup into beverages So there you go, so that's his karma story. It didn't come from a negative karma story seems to me He's so he's doing post karmic James pet pet singer in San Jose, California hundred eleven dollars eleven cents value for value He says he loves the show Keith Edwards Gilbert, Arizona hundred eleven dollars eleven cents Massimo Cattaneo one of our regulars Massimo new Continental Continental it's not counting. It's Massimo Massimo not Massimino Massimo I say Massimo something like that. No Massimo Continental in Nusa

1:36:04 Australia from Suzanne Tracy actually, Noosa, Australia. Please give a birthday shout out to my son Thomas. Yeah we got that. He turns 18 on April 14th. We got it, we got it, we got it, move on. He needs karma, give him some karma. Birthday shout out, it wasn't karma. It says right here, karma. Oh well there's the karma. You're gonna argue with everyone of these? We'll never get through these. Matthew McDonald, Calgary, Alberta, $111.11 less. Show you guys missed the birthday shot and karma for my gorgeous fiancee Erin Bergman. No, we know we did not No, we did not we expressly did it do these people even listen to the show? Hey, if you're gonna donate money and not listen, please don't all right. Just don't let's finish peach snakes Snake is $111 11 cents. He's also a knight finally a Felix shootle a hundred hundred dollars, uh Davy Jones Dave Jones

1:37:03 famous for his lockers in Springville Alabama he's also in the chat room spreading like he's RD a and eel if you want to harass him 50th double nickels on the dime Thomas by the way it's his first donation Thomas Nordang in North Glen Colorado long time listener first-time donor please give me some karma for my job searches I'm changing careers again you've got karma you know these guys everybody's dissatisfied with their work Zoran Ivanovici in Lakewood California double-niggles on a dime knows some generous donations from Japan on show 290 as a small part of me wonders if my mention of the Japanese ministry and transgendered hookers may have played a small part in that yes and we appreciate it it's like a very early episode of Noah Jenner where John admitted that a great way to make an impression is to tell a good hooker joke

1:38:01 well it worked and we appreciate it. Does that make a great impression? I don't know, it doesn't on most women. I've noticed that's not a big laugh in the office. It's not a good policy. Greg Brunsell, Kenosha, Wisconsin $50 and Chris Gheilen, Sir Chris. Chris Heelan. Gheilen. promo jingle vas and good slav and loosener alcove ik nar gene agenda met adam curry on john c dvorak very good that's his ringtone again

1:38:37 paid and Paul Elvis elves alves in Toronto another $50 and they were going to thank our those donors and everybody who donated 3333 and all the subscribers and we like to encourage more people to subscribe especially at the $11 11 cent level But five dollars is good and check your your subscription once in a while because we get a lot of people just thrown off the subscription list by PayPal for no apparent reason, you know one bad charge or who knows what and so we lose like, you know about one of Between one and ten people a week and that'll be that I'm sick of this. I am sick of it sick of what? In general negativity, what negativity? Never mind

CHAPTER 28 / 40 Discussion

Knighthoods of the No Agenda Roundtable

Gary Lehner and Pei Snakus are knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable for reaching the $1,000 donation level. The hosts announce that the custom rings for new knights have been ordered. They thank the producers for their long-term support and for "producing" the show through their contributions.

gary lehner· pei snakus· knighthood· challenge coins· roundtable

1:39:26 We got Cointelpro in the chatroom. Oh, you got the chatroom going crazy. Stay out of the chatroom. All chatrooms deteriorate into, if they're not overly moderated like they should be, where people when they say negative things, they should be just thrown out. I'm just sick of it when, you know, we're trying to do a job here. It is our job. John, do you have any other job? Do you have a job? I mean, the twit is not a job. Your columns, is that a job? I guess it is. But you got like five kids and three wives. Only down to two wives anyway if you want to support the show and if you want to enhance karma for all peoples of all Gitmo nations We need you to remember one thing Dvorak org slash and a and there's a couple other places where you can get there if the war act org slash na should be inaccessible due to excessive Gitmo nation interwebs filtering John what did you just say I

1:40:24 channel to the right dot com slash I have the channel Dvorak means in governor news naba channel Dvorak comm slash na no agenda show donation dot com slash donate slash na either one yeah Alright, let's take a look at our list here today. Massimo Cattaneo says happy birthday to his son Thomas, turns 18 on April 4th. Matthew McDonald on the list again. A great administration. Yes, we did say happy birthday to your fiancé Aaron Bergwin, but happy to do again. No problem. On March 24th,

1:41:08 and Eric the shill wishes his son Evan a very happy fifth birthday happy birthday from your buddies here at the Noah Jedra show and I'm very happy to announce that we have a couple of knighthoods to do here John can I have your blades? Gary Lehner and Pei Snakus please step forward both of you have spent considerable time and effort in achieving the appropriate giving level of $1,000 to become Knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. This includes your ring which is forthcoming very soon. They have been ordered. So Gary Lader and Pace Snakus, I hereby knight thee, Knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Please, step over here and enjoy your hookers and blow! Or your rent boys in Cabernet, depending on your preference. And thank you so much for that support. That is really...

CHAPTER 29 / 40 Discussion

No Agenda Nation RV Tour and Sock Hops

Adam Curry discusses plans for a "Hot Pockets Across America" RV tour and seeks a rental sponsorship in Illinois. He recounts his travels to all 50 states, including a brief trip to Anchorage, Alaska. The hosts explain the history of "sock hops," which were created in the 1950s to protect gymnasium floors from being scratched by shoes.

anchorage· alaska· illinois· rv tour· sock hop

1:42:06 You know, I love seeing that where over time people do this. You know, they've just been saving up, they've been with the show and they continue to support us. The show is in need of support. They produce the show. Yeah, exactly. The show is in need of support. It is, in fact, and don't support NPR, that's what I say. Relationships are going to religion, culinary arts, airlines, food recipes, else United States, Africa, outdoor recreation, travel tourism. And by the way, we have one lead, exactly one on the No Agenda Nation tour, Hot Pockets Across America. There is one human resource out there who works at an actual RV sales and rental company in Illinois, and he's trying to convince his boss to give us an RV for the trip.

1:42:58 actually that would be great because we can go Illinois up to the northern eastern seaboard all the way down and then go all the way down the southern states up to California up to you know up to Canada then all the way back to Illinois would be great I think five six weeks. You've never been in the South. Yes I have I've been to every single state in the Union what are you talking about? You have you been to Alaska? Yes oh yes Anchorage Alaska the most beautiful women in the world and there's three women to one guy No, it's the other way around. Yes. Uh uh uh uh uh. No sirree. There's tons and they're just beautiful. I have been to, it was only for 48 hours, but I was in Anchorage. It's beautiful up there.

1:43:37 So yes, I've been to every single state in the Union. I haven't been to Alaska. Well, you can hitch a ride when we come back up through California. Are you going to take the Alaskan Canadian Highway? Trans-Canadian, whatever they call it. Yeah, that one. I don't care. Sure you are. Yeah, why not? But we just need to convince this guy that it's a good deal. And I said, look, we'll give you credit on the shows. He'll get plenty of exposure. Right? Yeah, you'd be driving everything with a bunch of promotion on the side of it I would assume. Yeah, I even said I'll do like a sock hop or whatever in your local market. I mean anything. Just hook us up. A sock hop? Nobody even knows what a sock hop is anymore. I know. I know. It's completely sad.

1:44:22 a bit. A sock cop? What's a sock cop? Let me explain for people out there who don't know. We do have a younger listening audience. We have a good broad range of people. We don't have to package our audience for any sort of advertiser. So we have everybody that listens and we don't care. In the olden days, they used to have dances, kids used to like encourage kids to dance in the high school dances and they'd always have them in the gym. And they didn't want people scratching up the gym floor because it was wrecked. I didn't know this part. This is great. I didn't actually know this. Yeah, so they created this phony baloney thing in the 50s because once they started, once they went away from waltzing into doing the bop and whatever, the dirty bop, jumping around, rock and roll.

CHAPTER 30 / 40 Discussion

Belgian Shoe Protests and Haiku Herman

Protesters in Belgium have been throwing thousands of shoes at a dummy of Prime Minister Yves Leterme to protest the lack of a functioning government. Meanwhile, EU President Herman Van Rompuy, known as "Haiku Herman," released a new poem about Italian unity. The hosts mock the absurdity of European leadership and the shoe-throwing tradition.

belgium· brussels· herman van rompuy· eve leterme· shoe throwing

1:45:08 That crazy thing those kids are doing. Once they started doing that, they were scratching up the place because of their shoes. So they said, oh, let's create the sock hop. So you had to go in your socks because you wouldn't damage anything. OK, thanks for that history lesson. You're welcome. Now, speaking of socks, big up, big up to the human resources of Belgium. Big ups. So, of course, they now have been without a government longer than Iraq. uh... they need a government apparently working fine they don't need it all but we put uh... so they're doing their own version of the riot and they're leading by example i love are human resources from get more nation brussels sprouts they put up uh... a dummy of uh... the belgian prime minister eve let them in on the steps of the stock exchange building and they've been throwing shoes at i mean this thousands of shoes

1:46:05 It's a, you see these pictures, it's beautiful. Thousands of shoes and everyone comes by and just throws a shoe. And I'm telling you, this is the protest. This is the one that gets attention. Throw your shoes over 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Throw your shoe... what? Yeah, throw your shoes over the fence. Yeah, or stick them on the fence. We could take this one level higher and show up and throw pre-shoes. We really have to. Pre-shoes? I think throwing a pre-shoe is even better. What's a pre-shoe? A rubber tire. They make them into shoes in Mexico. People don't know what to do with these old tires. They got them in their garage. No, it's shoes. Just shoes. Shoes is an insult. It's insulting. It's beautiful. Throw your shoes. You don't think throwing a tire at somebody is an insult? No, just shut up, John. Please don't confuse it. You're making light of this. We have to protest one way or the other.

1:47:03 Shoes all right throw your shoes over the fence of Pennsylvania Avenue all right haiku Herman van you know they'll be saying well you guys are eliciting littering It's a felony. Yeah, I'm just I'm just I'm down today Happy moody when you began the show yeah, but then I just say I just saw the futility of it all like why not the chat room the guys are missing the point I Yeah, it hurts. It really does. It hurts. It hurts. Yeah. It doesn't hurt. This show is my life. This is very simple. No! This show is my life. See, you've learned to hide from it. I'm still a young man. Alright, we remain in Brussels. The president of the United States of Europe, you know that guy who was never chosen by the human resources? They just put him there? Herman, Haiku Herman? Yeah, he's got a new poem? Yeah, he got a new haiku. He sure does.

CHAPTER 31 / 40 Discussion

Silvio Berlusconi's Trial and George Clooney

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has reportedly named actor George Clooney as a witness in his ongoing "hooker trial." The hosts joke that Clooney is acting as a "fixer" for the political elite. They suggest Berlusconi is using the actor's fame as a desperate measure to influence the court's perception.

silvio berlusconi· george clooney· italy· hooker trial· fixer

1:47:59 in which he wished Italy to remain united forever and uh... shall I read you this haiku? Ugh, why not? Okay, here we go. From the multitudes to unity, after a century long journey, together forever. What? Yeah, that's his haiku. He tweets them now, his haikus. He tweets them? Yeah. This guy's an idiot. Uh-huh. And then of course there's some interesting stuff going on in Italy as George Clooney apparently will be called as a witness for the Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's hooker trial. And Berlusconi's like, hey man, George was there. He had them hookers over there.

1:48:51 and we gotta call him as a witness so that he knows that that would then judge or jill say that it's not true of course george's is like a means always like a desperate measure it's probably like this although george w maybe a gross going to handlers bailed out on me knows the only way to get a message to them is to clue me no i think it went like this and uh... joseph you are not is this a view Hey man, I have some deep shit here man. What is the guy from Acapulco? I mean what is the accent? I don't have an accent for Silvio. I needed the help. I needed the help George W. Obama. How can you help me with this problem with the hookahs and the blows?

1:49:33 Don't worry, Sylvia. I'll send Clooney. He'll fix it. Doesn't he fix everything? Yeah, Clooney's the fixer. He did that movie, Adam, the Clayton whatever it was film, which was about being a fixer and that's what he is actually. It's kind of an irony. Yeah, just gonna go in and fix it. Not a problem. Not a problem. So Mimi came up with an interesting observation that I think needs reporting and I think we should look into it. Yeah, I'm all ears. She believes and now that I think back on it George Clooney's gay is this is this what it's gonna be no I'm looking back on these interviews. She believes that Rumsfeld is gay has been Botoxed

CHAPTER 32 / 40 Discussion

Donald Rumsfeld and the Botoxed Elite Theory

A theory is presented that Donald Rumsfeld uses Botox to mask his facial expressions during interviews, making it harder to detect lies. The hosts compare this to Nicole Kidman's lack of expression and speculate that other elites, like Hillary Clinton or Janet Napolitano, may also use the procedure. They revisit Rumsfeld's claim of not knowing what WTC Building 7 was.

donald rumsfeld· botox· nicole kidman· hillary clinton· building 7

1:50:20 to an extreme so you can't spot him lying about this pack of lie books that book that he came out with and now that I remember it he says he just turned off the sound on a Rumsfeld interview and he's got no expressionless and this is a kind of a fractal of the show lie to me where this guy who reads people can't read this one guy because he's been botoxed to death. So you botox yourself up so he says he says Rumsfeld's got all these wrinkles in his forehead but he can't raise his eyebrows right and And it makes nothing but sense because there's been studies that show that when you cut off the ability to express yourself facially, you also lose those emotions. You go flat. Right, we've actually discussed this, that if you can't make the emotion, then it actually alters your personality.

1:51:07 yeah and so now rumsfeld's got a deep net this is the russians this is what explains a lot of these interviews and he was a love yucking it up kind of with john stewart he was denying all kinds of things he doesn't think that what was that one thing he kept repeating that he doesn't think there's any corruption in afghanistan well you feel that no corruption and then he also uh... doesn't know what building seven is right What? Did you hear that? Did we ever play that clip? Yeah, yeah, no. Played the clip. What? We played the clip. We don't know. He doesn't know what building 7 is. It's hilarious. I have it here. But so anyway... Building 7! Hold on. You gotta listen to it. I often hear about, no plane hit building 7. Why did building 7 come down?

1:51:50 What do you tell people? What is building 7? and this is why Nicole Kidman doesn't win any Oscars anymore because she Botox herself out and she's he can't act anymore she has no expression got no expressions now she does have a flat look I mean it's actually kind of kind of creepy to be honest about the way Nicole Kidman can't

1:52:30 She doesn't, you know, her smile is kind of fixed in place and she doesn't, her eyebrows don't move and her eyes don't open wide, you know. So this is very, this is a very good point and I think we need to be on the lookout. How about Hillary Clinton? How about Lucifer? Lucifer Clinton? Has she been Botoxed? we got a pet now we gotta start paying attention to this this is a very good point miki always sees the she has a dot botox we should look at this more i think that uh... i i was watching hillary act no cuz hillary brink i don't think she's gonna get both and maybe she's botox in some parts but she relies on that glare and she gets both taxes gonna lose that glare tissue to look at some and give them that dirty look right andy to to transmit a dirty look

CHAPTER 33 / 40 Discussion

RIAA Lobbyist Judge and Robert Gibbs at Facebook

Beryl Howell, a former lobbyist for the RIAA, has been appointed as a federal judge to rule on file-sharing cases. Additionally, former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs is in talks to join Facebook's communications team. The hosts argue that Gibbs is being hired as an "input device" to facilitate government communication with the social media giant.

beryl howell· riaa· robert gibbs· facebook· mark zuckerberg

1:53:15 Now she's saying anything you can't be Botox. She's wearing the brooch man. It's the evil eye brooch that thing is emanating something I think Lucy Napolitano may be both Botox Listen, well, let's pay attention to this. This should be a new a new segment. Yeah Botox elite of the week Botox or not boat Hey, we got a couple of Couple of entries in the shadow puppet theater I a lobbyist for the RIAA and her name is Beryl Howell is about to become a judge who will rule on file sharing cases. Hold on a second. Let me get this straight. Yeah, please try it. What? Yeah, exactly. So she was a lobbyist for the RIAA

1:54:14 you know one of those people that uh... it yeah she'll that brides uh... politicians congress yeah congress bribes that with with hookers here exactly and she's botox by the way as she is now a federal judge and uh... she uh... will be ruling on uh... a number of file sharing cases And then the favorite one, which has not been confirmed, but it looks like Tiny Tim Gibbs, Bob Gibbs, is in talks with Facebook to oversee the company's communications. Why? Well, duh. Every time somebody says this to me I go, why? Because Facebook is, we need more government people in there. What are you talking about, why?

1:55:09 I mean, but what, yeah, well, yeah, it's a place where they can track you like a dog, which is one of the reasons I don't, well, it's not the only reason I don't use it, because... Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know you don't like it. But anyway, okay, I'm sorry. No, go ahead, I mean, isn't that obvious? What is their excuse? I mean, if I'm Zuckerberg or anybody at Facebook, what is my excuse for hiring a government stooge As a communications guy when there's a million guys that are better than he is. It's not about the communication that Gibbs sends out, it's about the communication he brings in. Are you kidding me? Isn't that so completely obvious? So he's an input device. Of course! He's not an output device. So what are we supposed to do now Mr. Gibbs? Exactly.

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Obama's Transparency Award and EU Clone Meat

President Obama accepted a transparency award in a closed, undisclosed meeting at the White House. In Europe, officials have ruled that meat from cloned animals does not need to be labeled, despite consumer opposition. The hosts mock the "science is in" justification and the reversal of previous European stances on genetically modified foods.

barack obama· transparency· european union· cloned meat· hot pockets

1:55:52 and he will be able to do that he's not a handler for a little bit of a net worth of forty billion is that good yeah okay i will make it a download it okay now i'll tell you what do you say is that your kids no that's that they don't have to tell us there's a lot of our pictures occurred okay and this one okay so you can't write this stuff okay you can't write it President Obama accepted his transparency award from the open government community this week in a closed undisclosed meeting at the White House. I mean... That's the press release of the week. Wait a minute, let me just read this again. President Obama accepted his transparency award from the open government community in a closed undisclosed meeting

1:56:42 I mean, wow! Hey ladies and gentlemen, this is why we do this show. You gotta help us out here. I mean, who comes up with this stuff? That is the... I mean, write it for me. I mean, go ahead, go to the best writer in Hollywood and say, what is the craziest thing you could make up? They throw you out. You can't even... they're like, no, you can't write that. That would never happen. Just like this from Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe. uh... listen to uh... the uh... the member of parliament european parliament as he explains uh... why clones meet does not have to be labeled

1:57:22 Conventional European meat eaters can continue their customary habits for a while longer. European Union talks over how to deal with food from cloned animals have broken down. These animals can be bred traditionally to produce young with desirable traits like high milk production or rapid growth. Although roughly 6 out of 10 EU consumers are said to oppose cloning for food, the Blox health commissioner says it's okay. The legal vacuum continues. The present situation where there is no control at all on cloning techniques or clones will be again the rule in Europe. Science is telling us that we do not, there is no risk whatever on health from meat. There we go. This will be the rule, the cloning is no problem. Why John? Because the science is telling us this. Science is telling us it is okay. Huh.

1:58:17 The science is in it must be okay. Yeah, hey wait whatever you do The science is in Science yeah, it's science is in so right there. There's your representatives slaves of Europe you will eat clone Hold on a second stop stop Am I wrong or did I imagine that just, well I don't know, three, four years ago, actually even during the memory of the show's creation, that the Europeans were all bent out of shape about anything that was even genetically modified, let alone cloned and they weren't going to allow it. Or did I imagine that?

1:58:58 Nah, you must have imagined it. Really? Because I was under the impression that the Europeans in particular were just completely bent out of shape about any genetic modification of the food that they eat and all this sort of thing and they weren't going to put up with it. But you know what's next? It doesn't sound like that. It sounds just the opposite. The science has proven to us that it is completely safe to eat the... Hot pockets! You must eat the hot pockets. Eating the hot pockets will keep you strong and healthy for a better combined European nation interesting Meanwhile back here and get more nation the United States of America We have a new cash for clunkers program John and we you and I can get in on it. Ooh Yeah, we can buy a battery car. We want to buy a battery car. Yeah. Okay. Check this out. This is um, I

CHAPTER 35 / 40 Discussion

Electric Vehicle Rebates and Michigan's Economy

Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan introduced a bill to turn the $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit into an immediate point-of-sale rebate. The hosts point out that this primarily benefits the Chevrolet Volt, manufactured in Stabenow's home state. They criticize the government for subsidizing vehicles produced by companies it partially owns.

debbie stabenow· michigan· electric vehicles· chevrolet volt· tax credit

1:59:54 Senator Debbie Stabenow from, well, she's from Michigan. Do you think that has anything to do with it? Yeah, Debbie from the Debster. From Michigan, huh? The Debonator. From Michigan, where they, what do they make in Michigan? of cars a cars poverty yeah it straight from michigan best poverty in the union here's debbie as an obama calling us to rise to the challenge of the twenty first century economy to out innovate out educate and out build a house in the world and we can do that he also challenged us to put one million electric vehicles on the road by two thousand fifteen

2:00:34 The bill I've introduced today will help us achieve that goal by investing in electric vehicle innovation because we can create the jobs of the future in America. We are already creating those in Michigan with these investments. We all know that new technologies are always the most expensive, which is why we passed a tax credit of up to $7,500 on the purchase of a new electric vehicle. My bill makes that work even better for consumers. It turns that credit into a rebate.

2:01:10 that can be used at the time of purchase so that when you buy a car you would get up to the $7,500 off at the beginning at the dealership rather than waiting until you fill out your tax forms the next year. Woohoo! $7,500 smackers! For a Volt, the only electric car we really have is a Volt. That's a Chevy, that's a General Motors, which I believe is owned or partially owned by the government. Woohoo! 7500 buckaroos! So the government itself is subsidizing cars made by its own... Okay, well that's what everyone was fearful of, but you know, hey, 7500 is 7500. So the chat room just posted this link about the president mispronouncing the name Libya. Did you see anything about this? Is this supposed to be funny? Let's see what these hilarious people have to share with us.

CHAPTER 36 / 40 Discussion

Vodka Tampons and Eating Disorder Study Scams

Police in Germany issued a warning about teenagers using vodka-soaked tampons to get drunk without having alcohol on their breath. The hosts suspect this may be a "copycat" trend inspired by a recent Law & Order episode. They also critique a study claiming women would trade a year of life for a perfect body, labeling it a marketing scam for a new charity.

germany· vodka tampons· law and order· eating disorders· marketing

2:02:01 tonight i'd like to update the american people on the international efforts that we have led in latin that we would not put ground troops lady lady but he's saying maybe i think that's it's funnier dot dot i fell for that one stupid idiot i am uh... give my nation doychland bad news john bad bad bad news the demon drink a struck there and uh... and the children's are are in the end in deep deep kimchi Vodka tampons is the new craze. Oh yeah, that'll do it. Vodka tampons. Police in southern Germany, Deutschland, warned this week of a dangerous new form of alcohol abuse amongst teens using tampons soaked in vodka to get drunk quickly and hide the smell. The practice poses grave health risks, they say. This is worse than the eyeball shots. The eyeball shots don't work. I bet you the tampon thing works.

2:03:03 Well, maybe. Let me give it a try, let me know, eh? That was in a law and order recently. Oh really? So this is just promotion for law and order? I'm sorry. I should have caught that. Yeah, the girl was drunk, but then there was no, you know, she's dead and drunk, and then there was no alcohol in her stomach. And then they came up with this... With the tampon thing? It was apparently a model and the thing was you didn't want to have alcohol in your breath but you wanted to get plastered. Oh, jeez. So, you know, the funny thing is I think that the alcohol would still come out of... because it... the way you expire it... Well, if it's enough, yeah, if it's enough you'd smell it. But vodka is pretty smell... it has no real smell anyway, right? What, ethanol? No, vodka.

2:03:51 Well, ethanol, vodka, same thing. I'm sorry. Get technical. Why don't we just make a... Here you go, here's a premium for the show. We make a vodka called ethanol. That'd be great. Ethanol. By the way, there's this stupid study, just to show people how news is made. And I actually read this to Mickey, I said, oh, it turns out that 16% of all women would gladly give up one year of their life to have the perfect body. And she says, I don't trust these surveys. I said, well, it's a promotion for something. Let me go find it. And sure enough, study commissioned by this new charity against eating disorder. How horrible is it? It's like, hey, we've got to promote our charity. What can we do? Let's do a study. Yeah, what can we do? Oh, I know. Let's ask people if they'd like to die a year earlier to have the perfect body. That's bad. You get some discussion going, and then everyone's talking about it. Yeah.

CHAPTER 37 / 40 Discussion

HIV Vaccine Trials and 33% Magic Numbers

Geneticist Betty Korber is preparing for human trials of a new HIV vaccine. The hosts then list several news items featuring the number 33, including a 33% renewable mandate in California, a 33% drop in spam, and a stink bug epidemic affecting 33 states. They also note Obama's goal to cut oil imports by 33% by 2025.

hiv vaccine· betty korber· spam· avon· stink bugs

2:04:51 Guys, it's like everything's a scam. This is why I'm demure. Do you have any good news? Do you have anything fun? Come on. Well, I have a peculiar... Squirrel! Besides the squirrel clip. I wanted that clip, only I want it to shoot. What's that one? Throw a shoe. Well here play the young and the restless clip. Oh, thank goodness. Huh something different I have to go no no no please please please please please listen this is torture for my friend not knowing where she is You can't tell anyone that I told you you won't get in trouble. You know I promise I sold her to the whore

2:05:53 What is that? They sold her to a horrible woman. A horrible woman. I was gonna play that clip before we played all that Hillary stuff. That's why she freaked out? Because of the horrible woman? The whole thing? Yeah. I don't know what it's about. I just turned it on and boom there was a clip for me. I do have a Gaddafi sick joke top ten. These are the last three items in Letterman's thing last night. I thought this was the end of society. This is like what can most... the top ten list and these are the last three. It's one second this clip. How can that be right? Oh, whoops. Whoops. Hold on a second. Whoops. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Something crashed here. I don't even know if we're still on the air.

2:06:41 That was weird. Are we still on the air? Yes. How do you know? Just because you can hear me doesn't mean we're on the air. I thought because I could hear you. You could hear me. It's how can it be one second? That doesn't make any sense. Let's see if this works. Yeah, great job John. That's a great clip. So Great clip everything crashed because you're a fantastic clip. Let me just see it. Maybe I'll let me open this in quick time Let me see if it's do you like check these kids one second. Here's your clip. All right, everybody stand by Here's John's phenomenal clip that's supposed to cheer me up Great perfect. Great. Ha ha ha great. Thanks. I guess I can't use that clip so

2:07:30 Don't know please don't go on explaining it that that won't make me feel any better from the vaccine land good news 20 years after HIV geneticist Betty Korber first began tackling HIV her hard work Some would say obsession may be finally paying off a Sheena team are gearing up for the first round of human trials on an HIV vaccine So well really yeah, Debbie will oh, that's good news Debbie will soon be found in the hot tub No, I think there's just time to end that plague. Don't get me started on that. More than 300... I can't even... I'm not even going to tell you. I just get annoyed. Do the 333. Give us your list. Cheer yourself up. Yeah, let's do some magic numbers. California Assembly approves 33% renewable mandate. Hey, cheery. Spam down 33% after the Rust Talk takedown, which by the way, I don't believe. I mean, I see the spam is not down.

CHAPTER 38 / 40 Discussion

Homeland Security FOIA Scrutiny and Three Wars

Emails reveal that Homeland Security officials have been submitting sensitive files to political advisors for review before releasing them to the public, contradicting the administration's transparency claims. The hosts reflect on the current state of the world, noting that the U.S. is now engaged in "three wars," which they jokingly refer to as World War III.

homeland security· foia· transparency· libya· world war iii

2:08:32 Hey Avon ladies! Spam isn't down at all. Bull crap. Avon ladies, upcoming 33% gain of the company's share. Good job, Avon ladies. Let's see. stink bug epidemic spreads as thirty three states now report the smelly pests this is new always taken over from bed bugs yeah because i have some bug attack it's the stink bug after that i'll be cheap what the hell the stink bug thirty thirty percent of public school staff set to retire in ten years uh... india gets seventy four bids for thirty three oil and gas blocks

2:09:20 My favorite President Obama says we must cut oil imports by 33% by 2025 Yeah, yeah, that'll happen. Did you see that thing in? Oh, this is there are a couple of things okay? There's one I have to remind you of and the other one is This is a right this should go with the President Obama's transparency award homeland security officials in the party in charge of the seat is happening there it's shooting microwaves homeland security department officials in charge of submitting sensitive government files to political advisers for secret to reviews before they could be released to citizens have you been following this no every day again it was it was hard for you to meet understand your kind of uh... yeah microwave labeling yes that didn't george mcgovern and that was the part in town

2:10:15 The Homeland Security Department official in charge of submitting sensitive government files to political advisors for secretive reviews before they could be released to citizens, journalists and watchdog groups complained in emails that the unusual scrutiny was crazy and hoped someone outside the Obama administration would discover the practice. So here's what's happening. So we discovered it right now. Yeah. Here we go! Your wishes come true! So apparently when they ask for a freedom of information request, it has to go through a whole bunch of people who have to scrutinize this in the award-winning Obama Transparency Administration.

2:11:00 Then they black everything out and then everything's you know it gets deleted I'm telling you John. I'm done. I'm done. I got nothing. I have no energy left for this There's nothing funny. I haven't laughed once we didn't have anything that humorous no, but that disappoints We're in the middle of another third war. We don't need yeah, why talk about World War three? We didn't know it meant three wars three wars. That's oh good point And did you want to talk about this Snopes thing? Oh, I did want to talk about this. It's too bad it's so deep in the show. Well let me set it up. So according to reports from out there, essentially, here's the consensus of the story. Let me preface your setup with something. I have been baffled

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

Snopes as a Propaganda Tool

The hosts discuss the credibility of the fact-checking website Snopes, specifically its defense of Al Gore's "invented the internet" comments. They explore theories that Snopes is a propaganda tool with ties to intelligence agencies. The discussion touches on Snopes' debunking of claims regarding Elena Kagan's role in defending the President's birth certificate.

snopes· al gore· elena kagan· birth certificate· propaganda

2:11:51 Cuz Snopes is always being referred to. Oh look it up in Snopes. You've been sucking Snopes has it? Yeah, well you've even done that to me in the past and I've played the clip of it, but that's okay Snopes Snopes is when Snopes has it. That's the truth, baby But I've always been just befuddled is the right word by the fact that Snopes will refuses to go along with the fact that we all listened, we all heard it, that Al Gore says he invented the internet. And they, because of one, because he didn't use the word invented, I think he used the word created. Right. They say this is bull crap, Al Gore never said such a thing. Debunked, right.

2:12:38 and they say false when in fact it's true but it was just the you know it's just a different word he used okay he didn't invent it he created it or whatever and I've always been baffled by the fact that they're so persistent in this right so what's been going around is that are you out darling I love you so much where you going okay say hi is this the microwaves or is this you talking to me the microwaves I'm just talking to myself now right So what's been going around is that every single time there was a birth certificate lawsuit essentially saying, hey, the president has to show his birth certificate, who was the lead attorney in charge of defending the president? Elena Kagan, who was nominated and put into the Supreme Court.

2:13:36 And so the theory is that she is the shill for when and if this all goes all the way to the Supreme Court, she will be on the inside blocking this. And Snopes says, that's not true! You're supposed to take over here. Well, how do they know it's not true? Well, because they're Snopes. Well, then there's apparently some connection now that has been discovered. that Snopes is actually, now I don't have the email in front of me, I should have, I'm an idiot, but that they're either connected to some intelligence agency or other, which makes nothing but sense if you think about it. So they're essentially a propaganda tool. Well, the email that you reference, and I'm only bringing this up because you said, hey, I've got a take on this.

2:14:33 The take was my befuddlement, and that's the word I'm using, about the Al Gore creating the internet incident. Which is what he said. We all heard him. Right. So who can you believe? Well I was thinking about that. I think we should do a no agenda version of Snopes. No, not interested. No, we don't have to do it. Somebody should do it with our blessing. No, I'm really not interested. You could spider Snopes and take all the material and then rewrite it. Snopes is for dopes. Who cares? I do. I want to be able to say, Snopes! Snopes said it! I can't do that now. Now it's like, well, Snopes is Snopes. Who knows what they're up to?

CHAPTER 40 / 40 Discussion

Contrails and Climate Disruption Journal

A study in the journal Nature Climate Change suggests that clouds generated by air travel have a larger impact on the climate than aircraft emissions. The hosts recall that during the 9/11 flight grounding, scientists observed temperatures rising without contrails. They predict the government will eventually use artificial cloud generation as a "protection" against global warming.

contrails· chemtrails· nature climate change· global warming· 9/11

2:15:27 Anyway, I guess we can wind it up and of course I am completely crazy. I don't know what I'm talking about Persistent God Trains And so this is the The next move before they come out and say, yeah, we're actually chemtrailing the skies to protect you all from global warming. This is the next step. Air travel has come under fire for its potential contributions to climate change, which by the way, hey, get with the program, it's climate disruption. Most people probably assume that its impact comes through carbon emissions given that aircraft burn significant amounts of fossil fuels to stay aloft. But oh no, it turns out a new study in the new, brand new by the way, recently created journal Nature Climate Change. Hello, branding nature climate disruption.

2:16:19 reinforces that by suggesting that the clouds currently being generated by air travel have a larger impact on the climate than the cumulative emissions of all aircraft ever flown. What is this? What are they trying to do to me now? Well, this was based, this is, for one thing, there's a couple of things here. One, this is really old news that the chemtrail, contrails... You said it, you said it, I heard you say it, you slipped. So they, during 9-11, when they grounded all the airlines,

2:16:59 They had a period of time where the scientists could study the fact what is the sky like with zero contrails anywhere and they found that the temperatures all went up. And so then because the normal you know they contribute enough cloud cover these jets that they this is an ANOVA you can look it up. They believe that if it wasn't for these jets, we'd all be cooked by now. And the jets are saving us. So I don't see that they're in a conundrum here. The jets are saving us, but we got to promote trains and the jets are not saving us. I don't know. What are we going to do about these jets? They're saving the globe. But again, we don't want jets anymore. I don't know. So don't you understand? It's so simple. Duh-duh. So, okay, we have to reduce

2:17:50 air travel but you know what for your protection we're going to create these clouds artificially this is where it's going John this is where it's going we have government sent because you know it turns out it's actually it's quite good if we could only get rid of the nasty airplane pollution but we could still have the contrails This is where it's going, I guarantee you. Fucking sick of it. I'm sick and tired of it. I'm gonna get out of here. Mr. Oil is coming up next with the Oil's Crude Show. Your short half hour and if you want to know why we even have to do this show, it's all because of oil. And he thinks it's not a bad thing.

2:18:34 I don't blame him. No, I don't think it's a bad thing either. I don't think it's a bad thing either. Help us continue doing this show. Adam will be more cheerful on Sunday. No, I don't think so. Remind everybody that on Sunday we're going to go a half an hour early for people who want to listen and want to kibitz in the chat room. Yes. We'll be playing at 8.30 instead of 9 Pacific Time. That's right. 8.30am Gitmo Nation West time is when the show starts so make sure you're here early. It'll be great for the people in Gitmo Nation East. And I'm sorry everybody, I'm just, sometimes it gets to me. I don't know what you guys did in the chat room to upset him. But it worked. But it worked. But it worked. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. I think I'll go take a hot tub with a lid on. I'm Adam Curry. From the Northern Silicon Valley region.

2:19:27 where I don't listen to the chat room for obvious reasons like because I'd be bummed I guess I don't know maybe not maybe they're praising me in there I'm not sure but I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday remember half an hour earlier right here on no agenda. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K