Episode 263 · Thursday, 23 December 2010

Don't Ask, Don't Yell

Media outlets misread the fine print on military policy while the Department of Homeland Security coordinates a new domestic fear campaign through major news networks.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden face accusations of misrepresenting the Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010. While media outlets like MSNBC and ABC News framed the signing ceremony as the immediate end of the policy, the legislative text actually requires written certification of military readiness from the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff before any changes take effect.

Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary Janet Napolitano are currently coordinating a homegrown terror narrative through interviews with Diane Sawyer, specifically highlighting cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. Meanwhile, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appeared unaware of major terror arrests in London during a televised appearance, raising questions about leadership competence. In the private sector, the GEO Group has acquired BI Incorporated for $415 million, signaling a massive expansion of electronic monitoring and home-based detention systems within the private prison industry.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the week's media memes, from Oprah Winfrey's audience giveaways to the bizarre rumors of Julian Assange performing as a drag queen. The duo also performs a formal knighthood ceremony for donors Alan Bowes and Greg Stone, inducting them into the No Agenda Round Table as the show prepares for the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

Introduction, Gays in the Military, and Free Speech TV

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program on December 23, 2010, from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. They briefly touch upon media coverage of "gays in the military" and mention Free Speech TV's practice of outing individuals.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· free speech tv· gays in the military· no agenda

00:00 Children of the future will have no snow. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday, December 23rd, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 263. This is no agenda. leading al-qaeda of the inland empire from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center give a nation west in the people's republic of southern california in the morning i am adam curry and uh... where it rains it pours but it stopped no more gully washers just a chicken soakers blue skies here in northern silicon valley and john c devorak it's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning to you john and he's on fire

00:42 That was good. In the morning. In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea. And to all boots on the ground, wings in the skies, hams on the air, human resources all charged up and ready to go in the chatroom with noagendachat.net and to all gays in the military. How you doing? Which by the way, is all, you know, you'd see, you could tell, you know, I mean not to say that you can't watch the, go to Free Speech TV and watch the gay news and because they out people on that show. Right. It's actually quite entertaining in that regard. Right. Because they're, you know, they out people. But you don't have, they out themselves on these talk shows because, you know, once the gays in the military, I don't think was a big story this week. Well, shall I tell you something? Huge story.

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

Don't Ask Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 Analysis

A detailed deconstruction of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 reveals that the bill does not immediately repeal the policy. President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are accused of misrepresenting the legislation, which actually requires written certification from the President, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff regarding military readiness before any changes take effect.

barack obama· joe biden· don't ask don't tell· s4023· military readiness· certification

01:26 QLA no no no huge story because of the lie uh-huh I see I knew I'd get you I knew I'd get you what lie the biggest lie in the world about this bill what were you led to understand about this bill John that it just repealed and a simple bill and this is what I understand and again because I never thought was a big story I never looked into it never thought there was some conspiracy afoot uh-huh my thing was there just it's It just repealed don't ask don't tell you can say whatever you want. Oh, really? And that's what you think it does you think it repeals? That's what Rachel Maddow told Okay, so I I took the time this is what happened to me I woke up at 4 this morning I went you know this okay

02:16 Oh, this is the this morning? Yeah, you're telling me that this morning is when you fell into the pit as a bi curious man with this. That's a bike. By curious man, I figured it might be smart to just go and read this. Read this don't ask don't tell repeal bill like that's that's not a crazy thing to do is it? well i i never thought to do it ok well i just i just felt that and i could ever trust rachel maddow no no i have rachel maddow clip for you and all of these are very very short but we must first listen to how it was propagated to us and then i will tell you what is in the bill which by the way repeals nothing not a single thing it does not read that they've the word repeal is not in the bill

03:05 Now, let me play the opening act of this grand ceremony by our president, by Vice President Joe Biden, who loves to warm up for the president. By repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell today. Okay, remember, and I will read the text to you in a bit, nothing has been repealed whatsoever. The word repeal is not in the bill. We take a big step toward fostering justice, fairness and consideration. And that real cooperation President Eisenhower spoke of. Oh yes. This fulfills an important campaign promise the President and I made. So the President promised to repeal this, right? Does he sound drunk to you? Totally. And many here on this stage made and many of you have fought for for a long time.

03:54 repealing a policy that actually weakens our national security, diminished our ability to have military readiness and violates... So then Obama comes out and he lies a little bit more. So this morning I am proud to sign a law that will bring an end to don't ask don't tell. Okay, so remember these words he is proud to sign a law that will bring an end to don't ask don't tell. That sounds like he's removing the don't ask don't tell bill uh law correct? Yeah absolutely. Well he's lying. Wait first we all gotta go. It is a law. It is a law what? What? This law I'm about to sign will strengthen our national security.

04:52 okay maybe it's just read you the law now because uh... it doesn't it's not as much fun if you haven't read the actual bill so here is the actual test the text of don't ask don't tell and uh... by the way uh... i got interested in this because the president uh... twittered that he was excited about signing this bill near the president twitters john has bull crap you know we know it's not only does to twitter because he's he has a verified account So you know it's him. He is absolutely twittering. It's Gibbs. But literally, it's like, I'm excited about signing this bill. It's right. Well actually, you know the funny thing is, before you go on, I don't want to make this a Shaggy Dog story, but let me just mention that you know Sarah Austin who does the Pop 17 out of The Officer at MeVeo? Yeah. Her sister, who

05:46 Who's like just instill in college as far as I know she is the she is Hillary Clinton's blogger Oh really? Oh really? Yeah. It's quite interesting. She was in the office the other day to shoot something. I was like helping her get a some school project done. So she left her State Department stuff. Really? Cool. Folders and binders. That's how WikiLeaks got started, John. You're on your way. That's great. Alright, so I have the bill now in front of me. This is S4023. and it's it's not a hard bill to read actually uh... and it is uh... it it has a short title and it is to provide for the repeal not to repeal to provide for the repeal of the department of defense policy concerning homosexuality in the armed forces known as don't ask don't tell please words matter to provide for the repeal it is not the repeal

06:45 And here it is, the effective date. The amendments made by subsection F shall take effect 60 days after the date on which the last of the following occurs. So, the way you have to read this, you always have to read it backwards, because this is what these guys do. And I learned this by reading the Lisbon Treaty. This is how you get fleeced, okay? So the last of the following has to occur, then at 60 days, and then this law goes into effect which will then repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. So what has to happen? Well, the president has to transmit to the Congressional Defense Committees written certification, not just a note, not just a memo, written certification signed by the president, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

07:35 stating the following, okay, this is before anything comes into play, that the implementation of necessary policies is consistent with the standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention of the armed forces. Are you still following me, John? Yeah. So these three guys, President, Secretary of Defense, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have to certify. This is not just, oh I think it's okay. No, it's certification. And I don't think I have to tell you how long it can take to certify anything. Only when all of the, including unit cohesion. Studies have to be done. Including unit cohesion.

08:17 whatever that means. Right, and the fact of the matter is the Marines are against this thing so that this could become a stumbling point. This will take years before the certification in and in fact this bill not only does not say repeal it says Literally, I'm reading it here, no immediate effect on current policy section 654 of title 10 United States Code shall remain in effect until such time that all of the requirements and certifications required by subsection B are met. If these requirements and certifications are not met, section 654 of title 10 US States Code shall remain in effect.

08:54 So the president is lying. He did not sign a bill to repeal anything. He signed a bill for certification to take place and then once all of that is done and then 60 days, there's no trial periods, no nothing, it's still don't ask, don't tell. Big-ass lie, but the way it's presented to you and this is what's important because we assassinate the media The way it's presented to you as if the president is our hero. It's a campaign promise He's sighs repealing it. It's gone forever. It's not so you know the problem with this is that

09:29 this is like a small meaning seemingly at least a lot of people don't you know it's not a big deal one way or the other but the fact that you actually looked it up and found the whole thing to be bogus just is depressing and I'll tell you why it's because it makes you wonder you know if is every bill and every statement is every single thing presented to us by the media and the president in conjunction is that is everything like any can we look up anything in five years to be the case i know i can with the food modernization act with a delegate again you know great shows all over the world's greatest thing but you know the fact of the matter is what is the point of even watching these shows

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Rachel Maddow and MSNBC Coverage of Military Policy

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow is criticized for her reporting on the signing of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal. The summary asserts that Maddow and her production team failed to read the actual text of the bill, leading to inaccurate claims that the policy was officially ended on the day of the signing ceremony.

rachel maddow· msnbc· nbc news· don't ask don't tell· media criticism

10:12 if this is it and then again Rachel Maddow is openly gay. Let me play Rachel Maddow's response then since you've brought her up five times because of course you have to look at what the media does how does the media propagate this actually I'd like to do two pieces John, it's really important that we just follow this. First of all, I'll do Rachel Maddow, then we can get on to some other reporting. This is what her response was to the non-repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. And this is not little nitpicking like I saw someone post in the chat room. This really matters. Nothing has been repealed, yet it's just like you text your $10 to Haiti. Okay, everyone's saved now. I can turn around and move on with my life.

10:56 And again, as a bi-curious man, I'm outraged that I... Here's Rachel Maddow. One of my favorite people in Washington, a veteran NBC News producer who I will not name because it will embarrass her, but who has seen it all and who is therefore amazed by nothing. Today she told us that she has never seen another day like today in Washington and all the time she has been there. If I were President Obama, I would have called a press conference today to cap a day that began with him officially signing the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. After two long years of legislative maneuvering, Mr. Obama concluded a signing statement. So she said officially repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell. She clearly did not read the bill leaning forward, MSNBC.

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

ABC News and Media Misrepresentation of Legislative Repeal

ABC News and other media outlets are accused of using slanted language and emotional narratives to frame the military policy change as a completed victory. Retired Navy Commander Zoe Dunning is highlighted as a participant in the signing ceremony who, according to the analysis, was misled by the President regarding the immediate legal effect of the bill.

abc news· zoe dunning· barack obama· mark matthews· naval commander· propaganda

11:44 uh... and by the way what is the deal with her in this huge audience all of a sudden now i don't know that's in the back story i couldn't get the best i don't know it's a live show i don't know it's stupid so uh... here's how a bcd compromise news organization i would like to remind you that the president of a bc news uh... his sister is uh... they very high-level uh... personal advisor to president obama so a bc news is compromised here's their reports the legal ban on gays serving openly in the military is a thing of the past. It's a thing of the past, John. It's all over. Is that, is that? Apparently not. If you read the bill, it's not a thing of the past. It's still in play. Is that not a big lie right there? I mean, it's just not true. I think it's not. You know, I think to lie, you have to actually have some knowledge.

12:31 Well, let's listen to this. A good day for America as he repealed the militaries. Don't ask, don't tell policy. What's all this editorializing? It's a good day for America. Well, that's what the president said in his speech. It's a good day for America because I'm about to sign something that means nothing. It's a good day for America because I get to bullcrap you one more time. Yee-haw! DC7's political reporter Mark Matthews is here with reaction from a Bay Area resident who was at the president's side as he signed this historic piece of legislation. Zoe Dunning. calling it a dream come true she stood beside the president and beamed as he repealed the policy that dunning has been fighting against for more than a decade so just listen to this not only are they did are you are these guys being fleeced but apparently there was a uh... uh... naval annex may have retired naval commander who's been fighting don't ask i saw this guy he we brought on the other hand i don't know that none of this is a woman

13:23 Okay, and she was standing next to the president when he signed it and he's fleeced her. She didn't even read the bill I mean, I swear to God listen a hero's welcome for the president today as he fulfilled a major campaign promise I am I am just overwhelmed This is a very good day and and I want to thank all of you. The stammering is a giveaway, that's interesting. Oh yeah, oh yeah. That may be a tell. Especially the people on this stage. Now stand by, listen to this. As he sat down to sign the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, he motioned for retired Navy commander and San Francisco resident Zoe Dunning to stand next to him. It was surreal, it was amazing to think that I was just, you know,

14:07 three feet away from the president as he signed a bill repealing a law that I've been fighting for 18 years. He didn't sign the bill! It's not a repeal! This is what drives me nuts! I think you've made your point. Okay. Now the stammering is an interesting tell by the way, I didn't notice that. They had a guy on local TV who was the same thing, a little group of people and they had this guy and I swear to God he broke into tears. Oh yeah, they have the picture of him crying. But this is what makes me so angry because people are so used to, oh well it's repealed, war is over, yay! you know the people behind the just so you know you're at war were out of their right so used to just believing whatever the news puts in front of them i do have to play this one thirty second clip of the president uh... because he uh... he essentially set up the research that has to be done this years of research in order to certify that uh... uh... repealing this is that this is just a bill that says we're gonna see if it'll be okay to go and repeal it

15:07 uh... so he he kinda had to set that up right you know it's like a well we all know it is going to be okay right now no one's gonna be against this in fact uh... he got some proof for ya fighters said during the pentagon's review uh... that this this is one of my favorites it echoes the experience of lloyd corwin decades earlier we have a gay guy in the unit he's big he's mean he kills lots of bad guys no one cared that he was gay and I think that sums up perfectly that's right because when you're in the military all you do is you kill bad guys that's all you do that's right we talked to these guys we talked to these guys in the military my son uh a couple both of them actually in touch with different guys that are in the military in one way or another

15:55 and uh... one of them is apparently you know he's a heart he's a military he's a marine all he does is string uh... our you know cable for all kinds of stuff and what happened to um... to peacekeeping what happened to uh... to working with uh... local officials and uh... and installing no no we kill bad guys therefore doesn't matter if you're gay straight and by the way which is a bunch of butchers and by the way i would say and by the way transgender people uh... regarding any bill shut up and sit down and p because you ain't getting nothing this is your kid not included in any of this this is the it's unbelievable that every now you go on the street and you do a poll you say they don't don't ask don't tell everyone's gonna say you know the president he uh... he's the repeal that it's all over it's done and nothing could be further from the truth

16:46 and uh... i'm uh... quite frankly we get you know rachel maddow uh... up front i am appalled that the gay and lesbian community is not up in arms they should be outraged by this by the line that this has been repealed it's it's complete political tactic they're all democrats and they just buy it, if Obama says it, it must be true, they don't bother, they do no research, their ideologues, Rachel Maddow is the worst. I mean she came on and did that thing with Jon Stewart and he almost told her this and she still won't listen. She's a terrible person. So the only thing I will say for our president, the guy can sell it.

17:30 so i'm going to play at least now listen to this one and then we'll go straight into thanking some people who helped with our show uh... support our show uh... so he he does this twenty minute lie about all of them repeal it is great need to some history and then uh... he's talking about uh... so now he has to wind it up right and the guy is amazing to go some stammering and stuttering into a speech which he clearly rehearsed and listen bless you don't and listen to how he brings it home as he's ready to sign this bill that means absolutely nothing and she whispered in my ear get don't ask don't tell them

18:09 And I said to her... Listen to this, listen to him go. You can learn something from this. For we are not a nation that says don't ask, don't tell. We are a nation that says out of many, we are one. We are a nation that welcomes the service of every patriot. We are a nation that believes that all men and women are created equal. Those are the ideals that generations have fought for. Those are the ideals that we uphold today, and now it is my honor to sign this bill into law. I had a dream! Unbelievable. That guy can talk, man. He can do it. Which will bring me to a point right after we thank our executive producers for today's show, which are manifold.

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, 11-11 Club, and Ham Radio

The hosts acknowledge significant financial support from the "No Agenda" community, including the founding of the 11-11 Club by Baron Von Pelzmakers. They also promote "Ham in the Morning," a resource for listeners interested in obtaining FCC technician licenses for amateur radio operation.

baron von pelzmakers· greg bircher· gordon walton· ham in the morning· knighthood· donations

19:03 mainly because I got a clip that's a very interesting contrast to all that. Right on. But first we've got a... and by the way, today we did a mailing so we have a lot of people to thank because we got a... And it's the end of the year, you know, people are waking up and saying thanks. So we're going to have a lot of people to thank. There's going to be a letters to the editor show. If people want to fast forward or whatever they do, they should actually listen to this because most of this material that people send us is quite funny. But let's start with thanking a few of our people, including Baron Von Pelzmacherz, who gave us $1,111.11 and becomes the first and founding member of the 11-11 Club, which will close after 11-11. I thought it was the 5x1.

19:50 No, this is not the 5 by 1, that's the $111.11. This is the knighthood. The 11-11 type. This is the big one. This is only going to be open for a while because after 11-11-11 it's over then we can't do it anymore until we're dead that night uh... order that night who it is over so for people who were who care about these sorts of things and we do because we think everyone should be a night anyway so it's about a bit baron paul's markers who's our uh... our primary uh...

20:30 patron uh... will be the founder of that group so if you have a meeting you know he's got to go next pay attention greg birch assert great bircher from port angeles washington is uh... give us three hundred dollars is working on uh... on another night i've got a letter from him i read the halfway point make sure we do because he had the hundred and fifty hundred fifty split up so let's make sure we do that uh... yes a little complicated Gordon Walton, Austin, Texas, 264, he's a member of the 264 club, which is next week. Thanks. This is actually an interesting trick because now we're going to have to mention him next week. That's right, that's right. That's how it works. Anyways, let's keep up the great work. You got the world's greatest show. Gordon, I'm sorry, Alan Boze. And these are all executive producers still, right? These are all executive producers.

21:22 Pell's marker's got a standalone and then everyone else is an executive producer. But then we have members of the 263 club. We've got one, two, three, four, five, six. Starting with Alan Bowes, Langley, British Columbia, Merry Christmas, John Adams, have a great New Year. This should triple whammy. Associate executive producer show plus club plus knighthood. He's adding them all up. That's right. Do your own accounting, people. Stephen Wilkinson, Mount Laurel, New Jersey. A long time listener, $5 a month subscriber, one that's usually $5 a month is all I can afford. I'm glad I've been able to get something substantial in before the end of the year. You guys are the best. I love the show and tell everyone I know to check it out. He tells everybody. So I hope everybody does that. Keep up the amazing work, he says. John Cozumano in White Plains, Maryland, $263.

22:14 uh... alex croakie i think is croakier croak or crock it's got to be cruelly i would say croaky here new york city Dear John and Adam, December 24th is my 39th birthday. We're giving a shout out at the halfway point. Every one of my friends tend to forget in the holiday rush. This is a problem with having your birthday on Christmas or around Christmas. And my sister's birthday is January 1st. It's terrible. So she gets screwed. I feel sorry for people who have their birthdays on a holiday because they get screwed. Yeah. I mean, depending on what screwed is. I'm probably, maybe they do get screwed. That could be good. I am probably the first to donate from the sunny beaches of

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23:31 uh... offers good anytime love the show i've been listening from episode one wow interesting uh... keep the wonderful job of entertaining informing me i'm working on all my friends to get on board one on that i am going to thousand eleven alex croaky croaky i don't know croaky crow is an italian name k r o k e allows custom always got some hot chicks on his website uh... noel first thing you do no moment plowman in Picnic Point, New South Wales, Australia. Hi guys, I've listened to the past few shows and I think the show is awesome. Keep up the great work. Could I please get a de-douching?

24:16 Absolutely. You've been de-douche'd. Also, can you send out a douchebag to Greg Dawes of New South Wales? He got me listening to the show, but he's never actually donated it. Oh, I hate it when that happens. Well, at least they did something. Jonathan Jackson, Chattanooga, Tennessee. Great little town. 263rd. I've been a douchebag long enough. Please take this donation as a thank you for all your hard work. Merry Christmas. Oh, that's so nice. I'm getting a lot of that of people saying, you know what? I like the show so much I'm finally gonna hop on the bandwagon. That's awesome. Yeah, he's a first-time donor too. Shea O'Brien. If that's not an Irish name, I don't know what is.

24:59 Ventura, California, 263. Hello, John and Adam. Call me a Scrooge, but I decided to opt out of the whole holiday present buying bull crap this year. Still don't have a lot of free cash, but I'd rather spend it here for a worthy service than on some ugly sweaters that no one will ever wear. Second time donating them. Looking to start a new project this year, 2012 wall calendar. Would love some karma to kick things off in the right direction. We'd be happy to help you out with that. You've got karma. And then we've got a $2.22 donation from John Turat of Pasadena, California. That'll make him an associate executive producer. Nevin Brooks, Windsor, Ontario, Canada, $2.20. Been listening since episode one and will try to catch up to John's idea of $1 per hour. Even at that rate, you're cheap dates! And I appreciate every episode. We are! We're so cheap!

25:58 uh... and then and not in this realm uh... columbia south carolina please treat is an anonymous don't always should have said his name and on a miss second donation out of five work my way to night with this is a guy who's going to be your girl who's going to be a can tell who's going to have not been on a miss night in animus night adam williams Eric can't iris is that how does that pronounced er it h can't eric eric can't yeah some money a earth $200 and that's our guys who gave us that's you can thank them for today's show Wow holy moly what a what a great lineup we really a line of the best so uh

26:40 headed by of course the uh... great baron von barrow baron von pelz markers that quick uh... p r m mentions i want to my sister willow in italy i received her christmas car she makes it she makes cards she prints them up and she sends them out every year and look at this car is going to picture of her family knows all and it's you know happy and it's because it was in italy in italian and uh... happy new year in italian over the holidays and i look at look at the at the bottom of the card that says in the morning to spread it in the morning on her cards what and i check with you know that i probably will jokes even it would pick up on it well so i think that's a great p r uh... move although a small audiences highly appreciated and then uh... this uh... initiative which i think is great from uh... david in uh... david mccoskey in north carolina along with the brian ferris

27:32 They've created ham in the morning calm if you're interested in propagating the formula over the airwaves of Gitmo nation with FCC guidelines Of course, there are plenty of links on this site to some of the resources He's using to prepare for his technician exam in two weeks So become a ham operator in the morning and go to ham in the morning calm which I find to be that's a good one I think it's a I should mention the people who want to get their technicians license if you've been around the computer scene at all You're halfway there so uh... we will thank this episode's executive producer stand alone byron von paul peltz markers baron of the barony of belgium i think it will hold on to second and i think we're going to say is we're going to be calling where these baronies are going to be i think we should re we're gonna rename belgium to palace markers and when you read a meeting about that

28:23 I think it's a good name for a country. But I do think he gets Flanders and Walloon. Oh absolutely, he gets both. He can deal with all the crap himself. uh... sir greg birch gordon walton alan bows steven wilkinson john cosimo no alex croaky croak croaky noel plomer it's jonathan jackson shale brian and our associate executive producers john to rata niven brooks and non-missing adam williams thank you all so much for making this program possible is really a great christmas gift and uh... it uh... it helps us enormously since we have no other way of making money at all

29:00 And everyone else out there, please help us propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. All out. All right, everybody say loud and proud now. Shut up, slave! And of course you can go to Dvorak.org slash NA to support the program. We'll be talking more and thanking some more people later on. Also, of course, thanks to all of our monthly subscribers and who do $5 a month, $30 a month, $33 a month. Everyone, thank you so much. Wow. Hello?

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

Homegrown Terror Narrative and ABC News Interviews

The Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security are identified as pushing a coordinated "homegrown terror" narrative through ABC News. Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary Janet Napolitano use interviews with Diane Sawyer to emphasize the threat of domestic radicalization, specifically citing cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a primary concern.

eric holder· janet napolitano· james clapper· abc news· diane sawyer· anwar al-awlaki

29:44 yeah okay well sometimes i don't know if you're still there with it i leave every once in a while with the yes so we have a the real story this week seems to me to be the all of a sudden you pointed out originally uh... the sudden emergence of the homegrown terrorist threat as a mean and once again i'd like to point out and you can only this one up to you but i'm you call for them if you want it seemed like uh... a bc news is the new compromise outlet and therefore they're piling it on first we had uh... holder go on to the uh... uh... onto a good morning america and that'll and i think that's what we're going to discuss first so i have that audio if you're interested and then we had the three the top brass of department of homeland security which is clapper uh... napolitano and uh... forget the third guy's name they went on uh... uh... a bc with diane sawyer and uh... actually the talking points

30:45 are exactly the same did you catch all the talking points or how do you want to handle this uh... well i think a couple of things that happen one do we do have but we can start with some clips uh... background i want to deconstruct the article that showed up on a bc news dot go dot com they know the article was based upon literally that interview Yeah, but it was the end that that's why I want to deconstruct it because it's got all this it's got slanted language that people need to be able to understand when they read these through these things so they can spot I mean I there's like I got the thing so marked up. It's ridiculous, but Well tell me how you want to run it, whatever you want. I've got all the clips. Well let's start with, let's see how far you can get with the clip. And I'm saying that meaning how far can you get because this is a long... Katie Couric, like you did yesterday, the day before, they ran on CBS News, they ran, because you said there's a lot of this ABC oriented because they're compromised, but CBS is too. So yeah. And so they ran a special on the homegrown terrorism. In fact, I think I have a short clip

31:48 uh... image but i think that i see the six minute clip see that i think that that's the one that you that you have to be digs really have a not nine seconds here is that what is a that okay legislative victories america under attack from within will put the growing threat of domestic terror in focus Okay, so that's the teaser for a six minute by the way you have to remember that minutes is unbelievable that this is a half-hour national news show and there's only 20 minutes of news is 10 minutes of advertising because everything that's the ratio is 30% 30% of the show 30% of the show is dedicated to this topic and

32:28 and and then all the news coverage was like this this piece from ABC which I'll deconstruct we're gonna have a link to the show notes and let me just go over this and read a few. Can I just give you the talking points that I garnered? Yeah, look at what they are so I can find them. Okay so the talking points and I took this both from the... And they are talking points by the way. Oh totally talking points because in both interviews they did the same thing so first of all bad news be afraid shut up slaves you're gonna die That is the overarching message. Then the question is, well you know, it wasn't just luck that we caught these other guys. It wasn't luck. Everyone's saying, no, no, it wasn't luck. We are actually doing the work.

33:09 Homegrown terror, homeland, homegrown terror, homeland, homeland, homegrown, home, homeland, homeland, hometown, homeland, homegrown. Videos online, videos online, lots of videos, everyone can see these videos, videos, videos, videos, bad, it's, uh, uh, we're being radicalized, videos online. And then, Al-Awlaki, is he bigger or equal to Osama Bin Laden? Who's more important? Who's number one or number two? Who's number three or number four? Who's on the list? Al-Awlaki. Al-Awlaki. Al-Awlaki is the guy who's doing it. He is the bad guy. These are the talking... and of course everyone forgets... Who's an American from Phoenix or someplace... Yeah, and had lunch at the Pentagon after 9-11. They had him. They had him. They had him in their claws. They didn't have him. The guy works for us in some way. They had him in their clutches. The guy's obviously an agent.

33:54 dot when you look all i hate the blow is cover who who really so those are the talking points but the funniest thing is at the consistent uh... hammering that uh... al-awlaki howie prance's name is now equal to or or more dangerous than osama bin laden which i think is probably they have to do because uh... you never know when uh... a week he can make come out confirming that osama bin laden is dead so we had to have a new guy i think that's where they're for a friend is from yes yes i mean and and it's not just in the memo does it so we'll just make it up and say it's a week you leaking everyone to believe it doesn't matter i mean yeah with the with everyone believes we just repealed on a stone tell amia stupid are we so this could be a week you need to know something like this that what's okay because we got this other guy and he's he's more dangerous than osama bin laden

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

Pierre Thomas and ABC News Terror Warning Deconstruction

An ABC News article by Pierre Thomas and Jack Cloherty is analyzed for its use of "chilling" details and urgent language to predispose the audience to fear. The discussion questions the validity of the "alarming rise" in domestic terrorism and suggests the FBI plays a role in radicalizing the individuals it later arrests.

pierre thomas· eric holder· abc news· homegrown terror· fbi· underwear bomber

34:49 What are you looking for? uh... propaganda piece or a hit piece against somebody is a headline that does not match the content of the article in indo in ways that are designed to put you in a certain mindset and the headline on this one is by jack clorty and pierre thomas it took two people to write this is like three hundred fifty word by the way pierre thomas I looked him up, this guy is an amazing, amazing journalist, John. He has been at the forefront of everything. He broke the news in Oklahoma City. He broke the news on Waco. Throughout his entire 25-year career, he has been breaking the news about anything and everything Homeland Security related. The guy's amazing.

35:40 Okay, so he's in the pocket of somebody that calls him. Totally. So the title of the article is Attorney General's Blunt Warning on Terror Attacks. In here there's no blunt warning. Well, he says I'll have bad news. No, here's what it says in the article because we have to compare what it says in the headline. So the headline is to get your mind thinking a certain way. So this reminds me, I don't know if you've ever been to, a lot of people go to these seminars but one of my all-time favorite seminar gimmicks because you know those guys that like to go up in the audience and trick you they put up a like a wall of words and say how many R's do you see in there and then you make a count you're always wrong. Right. You ever seen these you've seen these yeah I'm always wrong. My favorite ones are they get half the audience to look at a picture of a rabbit

36:27 and half the audience will look at a picture of something else and then they show you this combined weird picture and they ask you what's in it and the people who have already seen the picture of the rabbit all say there's a rabbit in it and the people seeing the old lady then it goes to saw a picture of an old lady all see the old lady in this been this mixed up picture Because, in other words, you've been predisposed, and that's the point he tries to make. So you're predisposed by the headline immediately, and so you're predisposed by a bogus headline in this article. Because this article is only about Holder trying to make the theory that they only have to be successful once. And that's what's kind of at the beginning of the...

37:03 there i go but he uses the word for example attorney general holder had an urgent message for american i was his first so they did this is like to get you keyed up so you have to origin all of this is important well he is confident that the united states will continue to thwart attacks in other words attacks plural they're attacking us as we as we speak as i'm right reading this incoming the check the terrorist only have to be successful ones. There's a bit basically a con... there's a contradiction which confuses you. You're already like set for the worst. You're confused by this crazy contradictory paragraph which says there's a... don't worry about we're thwarting the attacks but they only have to be... if you're thwarting them what is that got to do with them being successful ones? And what... why do they only have to be successful ones? What is that gonna do? What does that prove? It is total mind messing right in the first paragraph. You're already confused.

37:57 Exactly. The first paragraph is like confusing. And then we go to the second paragraph which is one sentence. And while it's not, while it is not certain, which means of course you use the word not certain. Which means you don't actually process the word not, you think it is certain. That's the way the brain works, right? The way the brain works. So what it's really saying is he says while it's not certain we will be hit. We're going to be hit. we're gonna be hit because that's the way this is worded it's a worded so you brain just that we're gonna be hit we're gonna be here he told ABC News quote have to be prepared for potentially bad news why quote again second x graph I'm trying to do this interview to make people aware of the fact that the threat is real the threat is different the threat is constant now this is the use of three items in a row which is a click when you do that then you remember right threat threat threat

38:49 And the idea is, which is the Trinity by the way, and it's three, which is one of the reasons we have $3.33 monthly donation. And it's just the magic number. It's how it works. It's the Illuminati's code. You could do two, and you could do four, and you could do five, but three is the one that really makes the point if you're writing to get people to pay attention. and then he goes in, then the next graph, in a rare and wide-ranging interview. I'm not sure whether he used the word wide-ranging. Yeah, we talked about his kids doing homework at the very end. The Attorney General disclosed, and here's a word that's a key word, if you ever see this word, beware.

39:25 chilling new details not all the other talked about this yeah we say chilling than that is a total it's a keyword it's a user either left a lot to to emphasize you find uh... noam chomsky people like that i'll use that word to get your attention And then he does the thing, he says, details about evolving threat of homegrown terror and touched upon topics ranging from WikiLeaks to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. So now we are doing an association thing with WikiLeaks. We're talking about terrorism, terrorism, terrorism. Let's throw the word WikiLeaks in there so maybe some people's brains will associate the two.

40:02 Nasty and this is all Pierre Thomas who and I have a link to his his biography his biography in the show notes total spook on the inside What is uppermost on his mind, however, in other words, whoa, wait a minute, we're not even getting to the gist of it yet. Oh my goodness. However, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. Okay, let's take a look at this. Now, if this is a use of adjectives to give people the wrong impression, I'm going to rewrite this. uh... what we had been here so i would write if i was being an objective journalist what was on his mind not uppermost but what does that mean what was on his mind however is the questionable rise of americans who are supposedly willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens i could write that

40:54 and it would be just as valid as the alarming rise, I'm saying supposed or questionable rise. There's no... what is alarming rise? Where is these numbers? It's alarming. The whole point is to have you pooping in your pants. Quote, it's one of those things that keep me up at night, Holder said. You don't worry about this even two years ago, about individuals, about Americans to the extent that we do now, and that is of great concern. Really? What changed? Now see, that's what happens. The first thing I thought of when I read that quote was what changed? Now here's an interesting trick where you bring in the word, because I think anyone would assume what changed. Well, what changed? Something must have changed.

41:39 Because now we're thinking about, you know, our own people. It's the homeland, hometown, homegrown. So instead of saying what changed sociologically, the next quote is beautiful. It says, the threat has changed, using the word changed, from simply worrying about foreigners coming here to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason have decided they're going to become radicalized to take up arms against the nation in which they were born. Wait a minute. There's no why, wherefore, there's no explanation for any of this. And by the way, I'm gonna just point this out before I finish this little deconstruction. People can complain all they want about Bush being a bonehead and crazy and trying to put fear into the mind of the public. He didn't turn the nation against itself.

42:29 This is terrible what these guys are doing. They are turning people, Americans against Americans. This has been done before though, hasn't it? Yeah, in Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany in Russia? Russia and done in Russia last 24 months holders said 126 people have been indicted on terrorist related charges 50 of those people are American citizens no details No, no details. What are the details of these 50 people? No, what is terrorism? They've redefined it so much that if you have a pipe bomb because you're you're an angry student at the administration of the school You're a terrorist. So you this has not got anything to do with the

43:07 the dangers of the of terrorism international terrorism as it were he goes on and on he says this is a graph that just is just blathering he says holder says many of these converts to al-qaeda what how did they become converts to al-qaeda well i am a member of the al-qaeda of the inland empire uh you know we have al-qaeda everywhere now has something in common, a link to the radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, the American citizen himself. Yes, this is... you know, let me ask you a question. Is there a difference between if you're radicalized by Anwar al-Awlaki

43:45 to blow something up or if you're radicalized by months and months of FBI agents telling you that if you call this number you're going to blow up a bomb. I mean is there any difference? Isn't it the same thing? That's the LQA USA apparently those guys. Yeah but it's the FBI who's taking these kids and radicalizing them. Have you seen this kid that the FBI radicalized? and you look at him and by the way there are missing pieces of the puzzle they didn't release one thing or another because they all they show is a yeah you don't have to do it if you don't want to you don't have to do it if you don't want to and then you know you don't know that another guy didn't call saying hey if you don't do it man you know let me kill you let me just help with this next sentence authorities suspect a walkie helped masterminds

44:29 Help mastermind. I love that word by the way last year's Christmas Day underwear bombing plot in Detroit may I remind you that In congressional hearings which we've played on this show he was allowed on the plane because they wanted to follow him and Do you remember that? Yeah, and we also they they let him bypass security so the security bullcrap is all you know ridiculous They put him on the plane They were following him and they were film as people were filming the whole thing like it was a reality TV show most of this information has now been repressed. It was a reality TV show. They took everybody off the plane and they they you know they debriefed everyone and then they they all disappeared went their separate ways the whole thing was sketchy and

45:15 okay to say the least continue with your deconstruction well that's the end of it actually i mean really okay i want me a mastermind is a wizard has a hot word lies that you had something to do with anything well he is so here's the one he would be on the same list with bin laden he's up there i don't know whether he's one two three four i don't know he certainly on list of people who worry me the most so that the consistent uh... comparison to uh... bin laden which they need to do yeah i got a good deadline is not producing But did you see the mistake that Clapper made on ABC News? No. Oh, this was quite funny. So it's him and Lucy Napolitano and who was the third guy? Craparola. I'll find it for you.

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

Janet Napolitano and the Holiday Terror Chatter Meme

Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano discusses "chatter" regarding potential holiday attacks during an ABC News segment. The analysis critiques her logic regarding the prevention of the Christmas Day and Times Square bombing attempts, arguing that public intervention rather than government skill was the deciding factor.

janet napolitano· abc news· diane sawyer· terror chatter· christmas day bomber· times square bomber

46:01 uh... and uh... no clip yeah i got a clip for you uh... yeah in fact uh... i'll play the clip and then so we so it's a it's a setup with the compromised a bc news obviously and uh... and and then diane sawyer who of course is if she's not complicit as she's like wallhole hold on a second uh... market let me play the clip in eula something froze here on the second i hate it when this happens It's not just a Mac thing by the way, it's a flash. Anyway back to the deconstruction. I just want to mention to people that it all, you know, the whole thing is to set, put your mind in a certain state and then just pound you with crap. We turn now to this anxious season about security in America. Yesterday we had the news of 12

46:46 terror arrests in London. So this was the key part about these so oh yeah and then I did see this yeah and the guys like what what what terror what wasn't on his list of to-do list. Well this is interesting because how this was spun is very funny so today word of a suspicious device on a subway in Rome but it was a false alarm However, right here in America one year ago we experienced the near miss of the Christmas Day bomber and then after that the near miss of the Times Square bomber. So we sat down yesterday with the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Chief Counterterrorism Advisor John Brennan

47:24 and Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and we started by asking her what is the threat right now? Well, I would say that there is a lot of chatter. Chatter! John, there's chatter! There's chatter on those interwebs! We got some chatter! Did she say cheddar or chatter? It could be cheddar in the world increasing right now over the holidays. Well that references the holidays Yeah, we got some chatter This always makes me laugh. So here's the you can just imagine It's okay to inland Empire. Hello, Al Qaeda and Berkeley Empire. I'm chattering holidays holidays holidays

48:10 So, we have a whole program of things we have put in place for the holidays. But no concrete indication. Yeah, we got an eggnog party, all kinds of stuff. We're all set up and ready for it. Of a planned attack. Nothing that is specific and credible in that sense. So we wondered, in the years since AbdouMuttalib, despite his own father's warning slipped through the system, what has changed? are you saying this could never happen again because of what's been done in this past year? what we have done in this past year, um, i would, uh, say would pick him up we would prevent him from getting on that plane the funny thing is, they-

48:53 they let him go on the plane. Yes, bogus. By the way, she talked to her teeth there if you didn't know. Yes, she did. We would have picked him up at this point. Amsterdam to Detroit. Amsterdam to Detroit. We remember Mr. Brennan, you're coming out and saying. I told the president today, I let him down. Will you ever have to say that again? Actually it was Brennan, Brennan was the guy who in congressional testimony said people of interest and the crotch bomber was a person of interest and they actually let him get on the plane. He said that in the testimony. Well, I certainly work every day to try to avoid having to deal with a situation like that where someone's able to get here into the United States in a plane. We've adorned the track record though, in terms of stopping attacks, preventing them from happening. People sometimes point to luck, you know. There's the luck meme. Oh, it's not just luck, it's actual skill. We gotta push the luck meme, because it is luck. And the only people who have stopped any of these attacks has been the general public. Other people, other people, exactly.

49:56 Operative wasn't able to carry out the attack. Well, it's because we've been able to degrade the capabilities prevent them from training Appropriately so they lack by the way. I love during these pieces where you see a bunch of guys in the desert They always cut to some b-roll of a couple of dudes running around with towels in the desert with an RPG on their shoulder because you know that that's that's the sophisticated al-qaeda is running around in the desert and the skills and specific and training on the monkey bars that's my other yeah I got a kick out of this use of the sophisticated they're more sophisticated living caves yeah sophisticated they're stealing weapons from people that are dead this is their sophistication precisely because we are keeping this constant pressure on them you really think the Christmas Day bomber

50:39 and with the Times Square bomber as close as they were with that level of explosives available to them. What do you mean level of explosives? The guy didn't have enough to burn his nutsack. The other guy didn't have anything at all. It was just smoking. What is she talking about? That's not true. She's nuts. She's not true. That it was because we had just degraded Their capability neither one of those tax breaks successful I'm not saying that you know we're we're not concerned about the ability to penetrate our defenses like a little of in terms of getting on that plane but for every Abdum a Talib caught our other homegrown terrorists being formed homegirl looked online at all the recruitment videos from the lot of Sega stop

51:23 This is a good one. How do you make this leap, this logical leap of faith for every Abdu'l-Muttalib caught? Is there a homegrown terrori- I mean, I don't see the connection. Every time you catch some screwball that comes in from Nigeria or wherever- A new guy pops up in America. It pops up? Somehow that equates to homegrown terrori- terrorism? What is wrong with this woman? It's like whack-a-mole. That's what it is. What do you mean what's wrong with this woman? She's ABC News! Please! We're not concerned about the ability to penetrate our defenses like Abdulmutallab in terms of getting on that plane. But for every Abdulmutallab caught, are other homegrown terrorists being formed? You see, she had to get to the homegrown part. How do you get to that? Where is this logic?

52:11 It would use every for every guy caught that does that result? It's called a segue John it doesn't even it's so off the mark that it's like it's ludicrous I know but she has to get to this because every Ford that crashes into a telephone pole does a new Honda motorcycle get built I don't see the connection now of course you don't but the whole point is we have to hammer into your head that the terror is homegrown and it could be your neighbor or the shoppers at Walmart. Yeah, in other words, ABC is also encouraging Americans to turn against Americans. Yes, this needs investigation. This is the worst situation I've ever seen in this country. Wow.

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

James Clapper and the London Terror Arrest Gaffe

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appears unaware of major terror arrests in London during a televised interview with Diane Sawyer. Despite a later statement from his office describing his knowledge as "profound and multi-dimensional," the incident is cited as evidence of incompetence within the national intelligence leadership.

james clapper· diane sawyer· john brennan· london· intelligence sharing· homeland

52:52 coming from you that's a lot i'm telling you this is to have the americans turn against it their own people and gets it yet this is i guess this is the equates the way i was getting in the in the uh... in the fifties with the communist under every bed but this is a this is worse because this is more vague i mean that will you ever a member of the communist party there was actually something you could join this is just a little guy with a beard that's not true we can join al-qaeda i'm starting my own fraction here. And where's the card? Let's listen to some more so now we've made the segue to homegrown terror now We've got to punch it in your face. We looked online at all the recruitment videos from the rack recruitment videos He's not recruitment videos Recruitment videos I

53:40 I can't even, it's so stupid I can't even get into it. By the way, I love that. So maybe the video had 11,000 views and she immediately turns it into 11,000 viewers. Like, oh, there's 11,000 of these crazy guys out there, homegrown terrorists. We collectively have set up an outreach program. We're in dialogue with the Muslim community.

54:24 and that is going to be a source of advice, counsel and wisdom as well as a... Alright, now we get into the who's more dangerous and then we'll wrap it up. As you look at these two photos... And literally the two pictures now flying on screen Osama Bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki. Osama Bin Laden. Who's the most dangerous? I don't think you need to pick. I think they're both dangerous and they are both What what does she know what is Napolitano know about anything she's a governor of New Mexico Well, they have to do this because if there's a wiki leak that comes out that bin Laden's dead Then they've got to have another guy who's equally as important. That's why it's a trick. Yeah, I think you're right It's a trick. They don't know that this has not been discussed in those

55:15 in fact they may know that it has. I think they know something. I think they're very worried because you know it's very unclear who was leaking wiki leaks and at this point we're so stupid and so complicit that anyone can just come out and say well you know there was a cable that was released and no one would go looking for it. People don't even read the bills that they've been waiting 18 years to sign. Yeah you are actually Pointed us out you've been trying to find some stuff on the WikiLeaks database. I found some stuff, but you know it's just pretty hit and miss It's very very difficult because you don't the 250,000 aren't there the Guardian has it that they have 200 they say But it's not there's only like a thousand or so that are released on the database

56:02 Anyway, let's just wrap this up with the equally as dangerous continuing effort to Commit terrorist acts and kill innocent people, but we wondered how did they stay in control with so much information coming out? This is the funny part here's where she rolls out the London thing and the guy totally blows it and every day for For instance, the afternoon of our interview, the day's news had been filled with the terror arrest 12 people in London just that morning. But when we asked the director of intelligence... First of all, London, how serious is it? Any implication that it was coming here? Any of the things that they have seen were coming here? Uh, London? What? What? London? So the guy doesn't know what happened in London?

56:51 and what's funny is it was a bogus it wasn't even you know anything wasn't on their list of things to do well so listen to her so I'm fast forwarding to the end of the report because it was really embarrassing and then Brannon pipes up it says you know you know London the 12 guys you know and then Clapper goes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You should see it. He's too busy drinking three martinis at lunch. So here's how Diane Sawyer wraps up the report. Today his office issued a statement saying my question was ambiguous and that the director's knowledge of the threat streams in Europe code is profound and multi-dimensional. Is profound and multi-dimensional.

57:35 It was all over the news that day and so her question was ambiguous. But his knowledge is profound and multi-dimensional but then later that day... Was he an outer space alien? Later that day, Brannon makes a statement saying the guy actually didn't know. He didn't. But first they send a statement, his office puts out a statement and says The question was ambiguous and his knowledge is quite broad and multi-dimensional. He knows everything. I see everything. I know everything. I am the National Director of Intelligence. I see it all. I hear all the chatter.

58:13 But then Brannon says, well he was like, no he didn't know. On Monday there were 12 individuals in the UK who were arrested on a suspected terrorist plot. I was wondering if you could tell us anything more that we know about that or anything about their intention. And also if the problem of intelligence sharing has been solved, if you could explain why Director of National Intelligence Clapper did not know at 345 on Monday about those arrests and then interview with Diane Sawyer that you and Secretary Napolitano did How that's possible that hours later he had not been told about the- I would be pleased to address that question, Jake. Let me- Today, yes, you know. Let me address your- Sorry, I should have clipped that shorter.

59:00 this is the still stupid i mean this is a good we're trying to get rid of that guy's i take down of the individuals uh... in britain to work with them closely to find out whether or not there's any nexus here to the homeland i find out so that i don't know if this bothers me this misuse of homeland which of course is what the nazis used hinterland fatherland to fatherland no but was hinted on to hinted on to what they really used does anyone not You know, I grew up in Europe during a time where there was a lot of people still kind of getting over the whole Nazi killing Jew and other people type of thing. Particularly in Amsterdam and people wanting their bicycle back and all that kind of stuff. And words like the Hinterland, it still hits me like, wow, that's a Nazi thing.

59:49 and you know i i'm waiting for the day when you start traveling overseas and you come back to uh... through customs is a welcome back to the homeland i bet you they they already say that actually now atlanta and about their motivations intentions and where their operation planning was going to have free to get on board and i were done but anyway the he comes out and says uh... well it was on a need-to-know basis and he's he was doing much more important stuff he didn't know about them and then people in london yeah he was having lunch come on He doesn't do anything. It's a bullcrap job. You just get paid money and that's the end of it. It's bogus. So I'll do that after the... I also looked into the START treaty, but I'll do that after the break. Yeah, well I got a bunch of clips. I'll tell you, before I go to the break, at least I have to lighten things up. I do have one joke which is going to run out of steam here if we miss Christmas. It's the Letterman Christmas joke. And then we'll thank some of our people who helped us do this show.

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

Listener Donations, Birthdays, and De-douching Ceremony

A lengthy segment dedicated to listener correspondence and donations includes birthday shout-outs and "de-douching" rituals for supporters. Notable mentions include an 82-year-old golfer, a donor from Norway with a phonetically challenging name, and various international contributors from Australia and the Netherlands.

david lee· chris perry· jason fenwick· floris fiedel-de-dop· gayer hellge· donations

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1:05:39 Actually, this is his first donation of the show and thoroughly enjoyed I'm donating a dollar for each episode in 2010 $2 per week at 52 weeks a year. That's a good deal 104 dollars We encourage everybody to do that I know it's not much but I wanted to show my support for the outstanding work you guys do I'd like to get a shout out for my good friend a musician called Corey Kohler pronounced Kaylee pronounced Kayla Taylor Cory Koehler who got me started on your show. Well, that's nice. You can check his music out at planetcory.com Love to send him some karma to get some more people to check his tunes out. You've got karma Guys like you exposing the mainstream media for the testicles slurpers they are And here I am trying to get through a whole show without going off-color

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1:08:54 I'm donating says thanks for showing me how to deconstruct could you throw out some extra karma for all the producers this year who keep the show going? Yeah, of course You've got karma John people complain about this segment of the show. I time it. It's only five or six minutes John Stevens Laguna Woods, California. I hope you didn't get struck by the flooding $82 my 82nd birthday Wow! Wait a minute. Karma! Hello? Hello? You've got Karma. He's on the list for the birthdays. Wow! He needs Karma to shoot his age in golf. Now that is a good one. That's quite a feat. That's awesome. He may be one of our most senior listeners. An 82 at 82 would be a heck of a golf game.

1:09:48 No kidding. If you do it, John, let us know. Chris Perry, Corning, California, $77.77. David Lee, Williamsburg, Virginia, $75. Last time he contributed, Adam douched me. Oh no! For a joke I made at his expense. So I need a thorough cleansing. Thanks for helping make 2010 tolerable. Alright, take off your clothes, here it comes. You've been de-douched. You are now cleansed my friend, completely. Start checking out zerohedge.com. I'm not affiliated and I think you'll appreciate their viewpoints, which has something to do with the stock market I'm assuming. Eh, kind of. Gardening.

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1:11:28 uh... it's good there and i also the website here uh... while the others move along and i'm watching in the morning boy did get mode down under okay wait jason farewell most and jason fenwick arlington virginia sending you some comfort in the senate has some kind of thank you that arlington where i was born by the way arlington hospital This is my, I didn't know that, this is to honor my first antibody scanner convert. A co-worker was happily herded into one and dropped dead. No. And what their safety benefits. Using some talking points, I had them converted with a couple of swift hits in the mouth. By the end of the conversation they were worried for their own safety. These are the talking points memos we sent out. I hope people open their email once in a while and they'll find them in there. You can use them for stuff like this.

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1:13:38 Uh, from Pomeran. Permanent, very good. I am a donor, not a boner or am I? I'm supposed to donate on 10-10-10 but unexpected cancer operation. My father took priority. I, I did out PayPal, good for you. Spending my money on Noah Jen instead of a dinner with the family. I don't feel too good. No, but this, but thank you very much. fives as chris scooter again kiwi christian chris yeah he's a huge christened kiwi bill uh... new zealand uh... i think we will wellington of wellington i'm sorry again i don't know that chris was your both process great entertainment this year over my eyes too much that is going on the world some businesses uh... there was more international topics he wishes for more international topics will do deliver more this coming year and i got i got some right here for him i guarantee it

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1:16:12 Donate slaves. I'd also love some karma if my meager donation allows for it. I'm embarking on a new business venture in 2010 regarding the name gear. Gear is how most people named gear on this planet wish it was pronounced. Having suffered the consequences of being given this name and ending up with a fair amount of English-speaking friends and on the inner tubes who gladly Beats this particular horse to death time after time I see no reason why I should suffer alone in my any longer I added annoyance of my middle name held Certainly doesn't make the English pronunciation any less entertaining so my very last words in the letter to us all revealed the true spoken form

1:16:49 Brace thyself best yuletide wishes gayer hell gay. Gayer hell gay? Oh my god that is bad. That really is bad gay or hell guess his name. I guess guess what no repeal for you, okay? No, that's a thank you. My goodness. Yes. Well, thank you so much to everybody who was support us This was a this was a great Christmas gift I feel the yuletide spirit is amongst the producers and the non boners Would you know would you not say John? Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's... Non-boners or winners? No, it's really, really nice. I appreciate that, of course. And let's make good on some birthdays here for a moment. Singing helps, apparently. Alex Kroke turns 39 tomorrow, so we congratulate him. And Theodor Hossmann, he celebrated his birthday on the 22nd. And John Stevens turns 82 today.

CHAPTER 11 / 29 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Alan Bowes and Greg Stone

The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for high-level donors Alan Bowes and Greg Stone, inducting them into the No Agenda Round Table. Steven Van Pelsmakers is also recognized with an "Uber Super Baron" title for his significant contribution to the program.

alan bowes· greg stone· steven van pelsmakers· knighthood· no agenda· round table

1:17:51 trying to shoot his age in golf. We congratulate all of you with the birthdays from all of your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. By the way, I got a lot of notes. People think I should continue to sing. It is actually soothing to them. Yeah, right. They love it very much. It's true. They really do. We have two nights, I think. Yeah, let's... Can you just pull out your sword there for a second, big boy? Hold on, hold on. Stuck. There you go. All right, step forward, Alan Bowes, please. Alan, we would like to...

1:18:28 Have you kneeled, human resource? As you have reached the pinnacle of giving level here on the No Agenda show and we thereby knight thee, Sir Alan Bowes! You are now a knight of the No Agenda round table. Another one John we have Greg Stone who becomes a black knight today Let's hit him as well as he kneels before us Greg you are now the black knight of the no agenda roundtable Please both of you head on over to our round table and enjoy All the good stuff we've laid out for you for Christmas, and I want to do pulse mockers. I think Indeed yes, well do you need a bigger sword for him? They wait a minute hold on I

1:19:12 Are you getting it? It's heavier. Yeah, got it. Sir Baron Steven Van Pelsmakers, Baron of the Walloons and the Flemish, better known as the country formerly known as Belgium. Wow, you've come in with the 11-11 donation giving level. Thank you so much. You are now uber super Baron Sir Steven Van Pelsmakers. I'm just gonna hit you again, just because I love you so much. Now we also have to read Greg Birch's note, which I can't find. Yes. Oh, geez.

1:19:53 Really? Well I came in, when I do a search on Birch it came in under something else. Well I can find it real quick, it's just that I wasn't quite ready for that, I thought you'd be prepared. Well I wasn't prepared to, when I looked on my search page there it's not there, I'm just going what the heck. Okay so I'm going into my email and all I have to do for is search for 150 and at dollar sign one fifty and uh... it's now going into the uh... sequel database and uh... it is bringing up for the emails and here it is that's a fast it looks for everything what is this year using and uh... that's a male steward thing i got okay uh... please divide the props for this donation to two parts as a pretty quick pretty quick search was not impressed i had been stunned at a hundred fifty dollars for eric the shill and all his hard work sorting out data and keeping people happy

1:20:45 That's kind of like a hooker price, isn't it? Keeps people happy. Here's 150 bucks, honey. And 150 for my son Michael Birch towards his eventual knighthood as a Christmas present. Karma please for his career in design. You've got karma. Wow, okay, so that was a very long donation segment, but everyone came in at the last minute and we highly appreciate it. Of course, to everyone under the $50 comfort level. uh... and a lot of you are most of you do that uh... to remain anonymous to be sure the remaining on this we highly appreciate what you do everyone on thirty three thirty three on the nightly aways on the lucky thirty on the five dollar a month even if you've given us one dollar uh... really thank you so much because you make this program possible and we've had a tough month and i think this uh... definitely makes up for it is great

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

Belarus Election Unrest and Russian Influence

Reports from Belarus indicate widespread civil unrest and police crackdowns following a disputed election where Alexander Lukashenko claimed 80% of the vote. The situation is framed within the context of Russian geopolitical influence in the region between Poland and Russia.

belarus· alexander lukashenko· poland· russia· election fraud· riot police

1:21:40 doesn't mean you can slack off next week it's a slave driver yes i am i am so go to the vorac dot org slash and they are channeled or dot com slash in a uh... or just go to uh... are uh... no agenda show dot com website and uh... from there you can uh... find a donation page linked to work dot org slash any can't go wrong quick little bit of international news i promised uh... international news belarus is in an uproar john belarus yeah chris is will be covered by anybody that's why i want to say because after the russian successfully killed the entire uh... political spectrum of poland

1:22:17 uh... lirik killed everyone you remember this uh... you know that we have to remember that that russian everybody all of the bright the science of the sciences in the russians killed all of the all the polish was like half the government on this plane up sorry crash of bad weather area and then it's how it goes at a russian air force base so if that wasn't enough now they've got to take over uh... the what's in between poland and russia is belarus It's the country right in between Poland and Russia. They must have said we're toast once that Polish plane crashed. Well you know the Polish people are going like what? Wait a minute this is no good. This is really really bad. So they had elections and

1:23:00 and this is the uh... lukashenko got uh... eighty percent of the votes cast which means there was a ninety and ninety percent uh... turnout turnout right yeah right and i'm again getting news from uh... some of our producer the people are being uh... taken out of hospitals and disappeared it's like it's pandemonium and you'll get zero reporting on it here so for this one little Thing in the New York Times after Belarus vote riot police attack protesters They're like disappearing people left and right and it's a geopolitical thing and it also has to do with the START treaty Which we can get into I actually I did the work on the START treaty you want to hear what I came up with Yeah, sure. There's a couple things So I read the START treaty this which by the way, I guess it passed in the in the Senate Does that mean it's law yet? Do we have to go through the house still?

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

START Treaty and Space Launch Facilities

An examination of the START Treaty suggests the agreement functions more as an arms trade and price-fixing pact than a disarmament treaty. Specific language regarding "space launch facilities" for ICBMs sparks a theory about the existence of weaponized satellites or lunar bases.

start treaty· russia· icbm· space launch facilities· moon base· arms trade

1:23:52 or no the senate is the last stop. I think the senate is the treaty uh... end point for the treaties. Okay so it's so I guess we're too late then and you can have a link to the uh... to the START treaty but i was reading through this and i'm trying to figure out what exactly is it why is everyone so excited that instead of... yeah it's weird and they made a big stink about oh you can't change the language the russians won't let you and all this other crap. So I read through the thing. I couldn't get into it. I got into it and I pulled a couple things that I thought were rather interesting. So, it seems to me that this is not about how many thousand intercontinental ballistic missiles you can have, because that's really what it's being propagated as. Oh, you know, we're reducing arms. I think this is actually more about who can produce what and who can sell to whom.

1:24:40 because it's makes and it's so specific yeah that would make sense it's because there there is you know we did these international arms dealers in the biggest outlines are are the u s in russia and israel i think is number three i'm not sure but they were the you know where and of course that's the reason we crack down on any indian exactly some poor guy out there trying to miss move some remington's you know he's an international arms it's a man i l it's a trade agreement between the the way i read it it's a trade agreement between the u s and uh... and the soviet union or russia as to who's gonna sell what to whom and how much and and he says like oh yeah you know uh... a missile is not a missile if it hasn't been put in the silo yet so that doesn't count so you can have you can produce it all kinds of stuff uh... but uh... if you have uh... here it is you don't have to here for the purposes of ensuring verification of compliance with provisions of this treaty each party undertakes

1:25:40 uh... do you have to disclose uh... where your missiles are what you've got going on however the obligation not to use concealment measures includes the obligation not to use them a test ranges includes measures that result in the concealment of by cbm's s lb m's and i cbm launchers or the association however the obligation not to use concealment measures shall not apply to cover or concealment practices at bases uh... that use environmental shelters for strategic uh... offensives so there's all these at me what it means is if they hide a rocket in an environmental shelter you don't have to count it that's crazy but here's the one that i like the most so they're talking about where these things are stored so um... and whether you count them or not non-deployed i cbm stand on deployed s l b m's only at as appropriate this week and store them submarine bases

1:26:38 IBM or SLBM loading facilities, maintenance facilities, repair facilities, storage facilities, conversion or elimination facilities, test ranges, and here's my favorite, space launch facilities. Ha! Really? We have silos in space? I wouldn't be surprised. Thank you! I told you we had moon bases. These guys have got all kinds of... Is that the same as a moon base? A space launch facility? Excuse me, that's not the International Space Station, so there's got to be some other thing up there that can shoot off an ICBM. There's got to be a significant thing that we're not told about if you say right there space launch facilities. I'm sorry.

1:27:21 that's like very specific language it's okay you can have them at space launch facilities where well where is it couldn't that be a moon base you know slbm means space launch ballistic missile right but actually what it really means is submarine sea launch ballistic missile but apparently it also means as a sat in a subtext way and and since they don't say it specifically unless it's in the definitions of the bill but they're saying here specifically That you can deploy at space launch facilities. Okay, well they got a couple satellites loaded to the gills with weaponry. How big are these satellites? Well, apparently they're bigger than you'd want. But a space launch facility doesn't mean it's a satellite. It can be a planet. Or a moon. A planet? A moon! Mars is loaded to the gills. It takes a little while before you get the missile here. Hey, you know...

1:28:14 A week later... You say tomato, I say tomahto. When I read space launch facility, I'm thinking moon base. Just saying. anyway so uh... that's our international news for this week ladies and gentlemen so please take it from me the start treaty is nothing but a weapons pact for who produces for what it goes right down to the model and the make of what the americans await make it what the russians make and how much they can have and how much you can have in production it's a total price fixing its price fixing for the nuclear on afro price fixing for uh... arms sales

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

Bobby Rush and House Energy Commerce Hearing

Congressman Bobby Rush is highlighted for his repetitive and confusing performance during a House Energy and Commerce hearing aired on C-SPAN. The hosts note that Rush is the only politician to have defeated Barack Obama in an election, despite his perceived lack of coherence during legislative proceedings.

bobby rush· barack obama· c-span· congress· opening statements· illinois

1:28:49 because it's not just about uh... missiles it's about this now it does look aircraft yeah well somebody's got a six prices i mean this is a big this is just a little business in this case they know that's that's why they do it and that's that's why passes everyone's in on board with the military industrial complex so i got a clip here to change gears uh... Because I was just, I ran into this guy, so who is this idiot? This skinny guy, he's like a black, old black man and his eyebrows are all turned in the way so that, you know, the middle of the eyebrow is up and the sides toward the ears are down, so it's like that funny look where you're like...

1:29:31 and bold on hurt me can look at it and this can look at it who is this guy and i realize this is the guy i've never seen it before is on c-span he's he's in charge of the committee is a congressman in charge of the committee that's gonna handle as if he knows anything about the internets he's gonna handle the no uh... the no follow list legislation. Oh this is the advertising uh yeah whatever. No don't track me don't track me bro yeah. So I'm gonna just I just want you to play a little bit of the clip it this is Bobby Rush who is the only man in history who's ever beaten Barack Obama in an election and was and if you read the Vanity Fair pieces and all the stuff I remember don't they talked about Bobby Rush Bobby Rush is god

1:30:15 you know, the favorite son from Illinois and Obama tried to screw him and but Bobby beat him back. In what? Obama ran for Congress or something before or some local I don't remember, but Bobby Rush beat him. He's the only guy who's ever beaten Obama. And I'm watching this guy and I'm saying, why is this guy elected in the first place? It just makes you wonder, but this is the great Bobby Rush who beat Obama. You can just play as much as you can stand. This House Energy and Commerce hearing is two hours and fifteen minutes. Good morning to all who are gathered here. Okay, I'm done.

1:31:02 I give people a chance here just it's really getting good at the beginning. Just kidding. We want to convene this hearing of the Subcommittee on Commerce Trade and Consumer Protection. So the hearing is now called to order and we will begin with opening statements with uh... through yeah you know i've spent i've seen this guy in uh... i think he was in one of those oil round tables and and and people actually put up with it they actually sit there and go like, oh god, alright whatever. He says if you, if you, you're not gonna play the whole thing. You can't understand a word he's saying. Not only that but you can't play the whole thing but I swear to god he says opening statements about twenty times he says and then when they give the opening statements they'll come and then there'll be two o'clock and they'll give the opening statements after the opening statements. He's whacked, it's like the guys on drugs. Play a little more and then you'll know. Announcements by the chair.

1:32:04 uh... there are approximately five votes that are currently occurring on the floor so at this time you know if i ever pass away he can fill in he can fill in my slot on the show uh... it'll be a ten hour show and we will have the opening statements from the chair and from the ranking member uh... and from the ranking member those opening statements we will recess I can't listen to it. It's funny though, it's funny when... He just keeps saying opening statements like... But it's funny when you watch the video on C-SPAN, which we do so you don't have to. It's funny because you see everyone just like, ah man is he ever gonna get done with this? Is he ever gonna finish? He never gets done. And then he does a timetable when this is gonna happen, when that's gonna happen. It's unbelievable. So this is the great Bobby Rush who beat Obama in the debate, clearly.

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

RFID Currency, IPv6, and the Cashless Society Theory

A complex theory links the reported presence of RFID circuitry in U.S. currency with the government's push for IPv6 and net neutrality. The hypothesis suggests that every physical bill could eventually be assigned a unique IP address, allowing the government to remotely track or deactivate individual bank notes.

rfid· ipv6· vivek kundra· fcc· net neutrality· cashless society

1:32:58 Obama fell over from boredom. Obama shot himself in the debate. He fell over from boredom. He just walked, he left. I have a little theory I want to run by you. It pulls four stories into one. It's like a connect the dots thing but I wanted to see if you think it holds any legs. Now, it holds any legs? Yeah, in the air. Spread eagle. Yeah, I gotcha. If it has legs. So, Now did I see you or did blog or post I hear people talking about RFID chips in the in the money

1:33:37 Or like... That was in a... it could have been one of our blog posts, right? Somebody's found that there's little RFID chips in the 20. So this is essentially exactly what I think you and I discussed three years ago almost when I discovered... well I didn't discover it... it was discovered that the euro notes all have some form of RFID or at least some kind of circuitry that fries in the microwave. Yeah. And so now this is cropping up... By the way, just to stop you for a second. Well, you might say this in a minute, maybe I'm cutting you short, but you know if there's some sort of metal thing at all in these things, it doesn't have to be RFID, it'll do this in the microwave.

1:34:19 I agree. I haven't seen anyone pull one of these chips and show it or actually talk to the chip with a with an RFID reader so this I think is a bogus assertion. With all the bills. But anyway, go ahead. Well, yeah, but there was a Slashdot link uses and and this is to pop side dot com early this month it came to light that the new high-tech u s one hundred dollar bill was so difficult to counterfeit that even the u s men couldn't properly master production process causing printing problems that eventually led to the treasure department according to a hundred and ten billion dollars new currency and so the story goes on to say that the problem might have been with these with the tiny organic circuitry which is being printed directly onto bills which has been successfully done with Swiss francs, Japanese yen and euros.

1:35:08 uh... and so the general again is this is just a theory so i i don't know for sure i don't think anyone's come on said yes it's our fighting but let's not put it past anybody could not that hard to print a little r f i d into the money right Would you agree? It could be done. Okay, could be done. Pointless, but great. So the next point is this net neutrality thing that the FCC voted on, which we didn't need any... everything's working fine, we didn't even need any rules. John, you and I are not going to have a debate about what net neutrality is or isn't, but one thing's for sure, the United States government, unelected portions of it, are now saying we can regulate the internet.

1:35:50 Right, we can agree on that. There were a whole column on it. So the whole thing is about regulating the internet no matter what the regulation is. Now enter, oh wait, now we also have to go back to our friend Vivek Kundra. What was Vivek Kundra pushing a couple months ago? IPv6. This is his big thing. We have to go to IPv6, IPv6. Oh the government's already going to IPv6. Now so you know IPv6 which is Internet Protocol version 6 which is I guess they skipped 5 because we're on 4 right now will enable us to have an infinitely more IP addresses. I'm speaking in layman's terms but the whole idea... Trillions I think. Trillions.

1:36:31 So then I get a link from one of our producers showing me what the integration is between IPv6 and RFID. Because what happens and the way IPv6 is set up, again paraphrasing, I'm not a technician, engineer, but I can read. The whole idea is that every RFID circuit will essentially have its own unique IP address on the internet if and when IPv6 is implemented. Ergo, if a bill, a piece of money has, let's say there's an RFID embedded in it,

1:37:10 So when it comes out of the cash machine, it is already tracked by its unique IP address on the internet by the machine. Then you're holding on to it. That of course could be tracked through your cell phone or a million different ways. But let's say you hand it out to the cashier in a shop. uh... they're gonna put in their till because it has the uh... rfid in it it can be and automatically be seen if it's a valid bill or not and because it has a but you don't have to have uh... database you it has its own unique i p address on the internet so it's a known bill if you put all of this together with the fact that i p v six now can be uh... mandated by at the fcc certainly in the united states we have the rfid in in our money uh...

1:37:57 you could actually have a cashless society with cash and your bill could be rendered invalid how about that so you could pay with your twenty it's like i'm sorry but you know you haven't paid your taxes so your money is no good i like it that's a good theory it's pretty crazy it's totally crackpot but there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff going on and and now let's wait let me give i'm gonna back you up a little bit okay So, I go to England, this is a few years back, and I've always got a cache of foreign currency around that I, so when I get off an airplane, I don't have to immediately run to some scammy currency conversion operation and go to a bank later or go to an ATM machine. So, I always have a few bucks with me and so this is the, I forgot how many years ago this was, but I go in, there's a regular British pound.

1:38:45 and I take it to the, and I sort of buy a sandwich or something at the airport as I'm leaving and the guy says this bill's no good, you can't use this, it's no good. I said what? And then he points out to me and anyone can look at their pound notes and they can see there's a little... Oh, it was an old pound? Yeah, it was a pound that doesn't, it looks like a new pound, it looks exactly the same except for one thing, it doesn't say ER on it, or EU, one of the two. ER, ER. Yeah, it says ER stamped on there and that means it's a Euro a euro qualified pound note or something, in other words, it's part of the monetary system. The old note which looks exactly the same, they won't take it. And so I said, what am I doing? You can take it to a bank and they'll take it and give you the regular pound notes. And I think this is stupid. Why doesn't just anybody take it? It doesn't make any sense. Your money is no good with us, literally.

1:39:36 Yeah, the money's no good for you. Yeah, exactly. So I went to the bank and cashed this stuff in and I'm still shaking my head over the whole thing. And this would be the same kind of thing. It's like they get the bill, it looks like a regular bill. Sorry sir, your money's no good. This bill has been deactivated. But think about it, we keep talking about the cashless society and it makes so much sense. They're trying to push us towards using credit cards and plastic money and digits all the time. Why not make every single bill uniquely identifiable and just say this bill is no longer valid. You're done. It's over.

1:40:14 Well, it seems to me you can go to Vegas and kind of launder your money and you know... Yeah, but it'll still be tracked everywhere. Yeah, but I don't know how much tracking they can do. Say you're gambling and you put a hundred dollar bill down on the crap table and they give you a hundred dollars in chips. and then you put it down and right there the IP address is no. Yeah they're reading it and then they give you another one I don't know I mean it seems like a lot of work to track my $100. I don't think it's necessarily to track I think it's to able and disable that's what I think. Yeah that's fine but I still think you can get around these systems are they can't even I mean they can't even get anything straight. But you know what knowing Vivek Kundra I'm sure someone sold him a great idea. You mentioned it I'm glad Vivek

CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Merck Gardasil Vaccine and Adult Immunization Push

Pharmaceutical company Merck is criticized for expanding the approved uses of the Gardasil vaccine to include anal cancer and treatments for boys. The segment also deconstructs a promotional piece for adult vaccinations, including shots for shingles and hepatitis, characterizing the push as a financial boondoggle for drug manufacturers.

merck· gardasil· hpv· shingles· cdc· anal cancer

1:40:56 kundra is the guy running it, because it's like, you know, he's just... Because it'll never work. It'll never work. So one other scam I need to point out today, because a lot of people emailed me this, of course, also two years ago when I was looking at all of the annual reports for all of the big pharmaceutical companies, it was very clear from their PowerPoints that they showed to investors that vaccine is where it's at. Vaccines is the new pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for all of the uh... pharmaceutical companies and of course the government and uh... world health organization a complicit by pushing stuff like uh... the on that story well i'd just want to read one more step because of course from the minute the uh... i think it's uh... is it uh... i think it's murky a murk from the minute murk came out with the uh... h p v virus

1:41:52 the human papillomavirus vaccine for girls and women which really only protects you against three of the possible fourteen types of cervical cancer and is proven to actually not be all that great and not work however they are have done an amazing job marketing this trying to give it away for free giving you shopping coupons at the mall as long as you take the shot doctors are pushing this on all kinds of uh... of patients and and a lot of people run into uh... health problems after taking is that of course uh... they said was not just for girls we got approved for boys cuz you know boys can uh... gets cervical cancer apparently uh... and now garda still is uh... there visit the same stuff now it has been approved as a vaccine for anal cancer

1:42:42 And I just want to congratulate them. I thought it was approved first for warts and nobody bought it for that. Yeah, it's for genital warts, cervical cancer, vaginal cancer, then it was warts for boys, and now it's for anal cancer. And this is not prostate cancer, it's anal cancer. How do you get anal cancer? I don't know. You know, it's just like... You probably get it by taking that vaccine. That's what I'm thinking. It's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable how they're pushing this stuff and getting it approved for anything. It wasn't even tested long enough for the... its original purpose. Yeah, apparently some people have had all kinds of reactions to it. Yeah, people are very negative. Girls have gone into seizures, many have died. With many I mean more than five that I know of, that I've read about. I think that's many.

1:43:37 And it just keeps on going. Just keep on shoving it out there. And now it's good for anal cancer. Well you know what, I don't want anal cancer so I might as well get this shot. What do you think John? Sounds bad, anal cancer. Better get this shot. Yeah, I think you should go get the shot. I got a Puff promotional piece about getting your shots and it's actually geared towards your age group. You may want to listen up. Go ahead, play it. You're not alone. Last year, a third of people over the age of 18 did not receive a flu shot. In fact, every year adults don't get a handful of life-saving vaccinations that you may not even know about. A handful of life-saving vaccinations? Life-saving? You may not even know about!

1:44:24 I was all swollen and my face was all swollen and I mean it was painful. Ann Power had shingles. Oh, shingles vaccine. John, have you been vaccinated against shingles? I had the chicken pox when I was a kid so screw it. Okay lurks in the body after chickenpox and erupts sometimes decades later after her ophthalmologist recommended the shingles vaccine her internist administered it. I don't think it's known enough. How many doctors does this woman have? Well listen up how many shots you're supposed to have as an adult. These control only 10 percent of adults age 60 and up who should get the shingles vaccine

1:45:02 have received it. And the CDC says not nearly enough adults get other vaccines that protect them and their loved ones against serious diseases. We'll have to be aware that these vaccines are out there. Flu, pneumonia vaccine, hepatitis vaccines, shingles vaccine, pertussis vaccine. Listen, all these great vaccines we can get, John. This is fantastic. This is a boondoggle for us. I think you've played, I think we get the point. So I go to my doctor some years ago when the hepatitis vaccine comes out. This is the doctor that says people are getting too many vaccines. And by the way, I don't know if you noticed, there was a couple of articles recently that have been suppressed about how getting too many vaccines may be actually compromising the immune system. Yeah, duh.

1:45:49 Well, that makes sense. But anyway, so I said, what's this about the hepatitis vaccine? He says, what are you going to be handling blood products? Right. Apparently, this hepatitis vaccine is just a big, it's for people working in clinics that are just constantly around blood products. Well, if you're getting all these shots, you're around blood products, you might as well get the hepatitis vaccine while you're at it because you're around blood. This is no good. Anyway, it's bad. Bad situation. By the way, another suppressed story. Is the one about all these veterans that have chained themselves to the White House fence? Yeah, I haven't seen that show up anywhere. It showed up on the Dvorak Uncensored blog. Yeah. But it's a completely suppressed story. And meanwhile, like we point out in the last show, I had the clip of the four guys who lost their limbs who talked about how great the war is. Yeah. And then meanwhile, we got 300 vets handcuffed to the White House fence and nobody's covering it.

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

Climate Research Unit and the Disappearance of Snow

A 2000 article from The Independent featuring scientists from the Climatic Research Unit is revisited, which predicted that snow would become a "thing of the past" for British children. The hosts contrast this prediction with the record-breaking snowfalls and transport shutdowns currently affecting Europe in 2010.

university of east anglia· david parker· snow· climate change· global warming· britain

1:46:51 Yeah, well they're all too busy reading the WikiLeaks. No, they're all too busy selling vaccines. I ran across, it was actually sent to me I think by Robert Leather in Gitmo Nation East and it falls under the heading of... So in 2000 there was a big article in The Independent and uh... it's it's great we have the internet and then you know stuff kinda hangs around and uh... this article in the independent uh... had uh... scientists from uh... from the c r u the climatic research unit of the university of east anglia you know you remember them there from the key to success yes indeed that these are the guys who actually has sexed up the data and here's the and this is from march twentieth two thousand

1:47:53 Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past is the headline Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change snow is starting to disappear from our lives And it literally says children David Parker at the Hadley Center for climate climate prediction and research in Berkshire It says, ultimately, British children could only have virtual experience of snow via the internet. They might wonder at polar scenes or eventually feel the virtual cold because snow is a thing of the past. Alright, douchebag! This was in 2000 from the climate change guys? Yeah, 2000! It's all over. Children of the future will have no snow.

1:48:37 They have not had this much snow in history. I know. Everything is closed. Terrible. They shut down the Eurostar. Train's good, plane's bad. They couldn't run the train. This is the third... The airports are shut down. Everything's shut down. The third year in a row. Yeah, the third year in a row of massive... This year is unbelievable apparently. It is. It's out of control. children just aren't going to know what snow is. That's what your climate biodiversity friends were saying in 2000. How you doing now, baby? But of course there's an answer for this. and uh... and this answer is uh... because of the diverted jet stream which i told you i told you the jet stream was being diverted because of the stargate in the gulf of aden and now they're not saying that of course but that's why it's not because i wouldn't say that because i had it's now snowing in australia but i think all the jet stream was diverted it is that's why it's a nothing to see here don't worry you still are going to die of heat

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Randy Quaid, Heath Ledger, and Nightline

The hosts discuss an ABC Nightline interview with Heath Ledger's ex-wife, Michelle Williams, noting the media's refusal to address Randy Quaid's "starwhacker" conspiracy theories. The segment is characterized as a promotional piece for a movie rather than a substantive journalistic inquiry.

randy quaid· heath ledger· michelle williams· nightline· abc news· starwhackers

1:49:39 So, talking about that kind of thing, not discussing, well, that's totally crackpot, the thing in the Gulf of Aden, but it's not crackpot, you know, when you have Randy Quaid at the top of the news, you know, with his starwhackers, and then you have a shot last night or the night before, it was the night before, whatever the case was, it was this week, of uh... the nightline show which has been revamped to be kinda like an entertainment show. Oh I haven't seen that yet. You mean ABC's Nightline? Yeah. Oh, of course it's the compromised ABC News Network. Yeah, so they had Keith Ledger's ex-wife on. Whoa. Who Randy Quaid said was whacked. Randy Quaid says that Keith Ledger was whacked. They had her on and they never once brought this topic up. It was just to promote her new movie. Oh really?

1:50:31 Wow. We have one of these hard-ass journalist types, you know, quote-unquote, asking her questions, but it's always just about the movie. But they did ask about Keith and how her life with him was. How you coping? Exactly. How you coping? And then they had a cut and then the two women, it was a woman interviewing her, got into this like, you know, they're exchanging quotes, life-changing quotes, you know, that make you feel better and they went back and forth with that and I was going, I should have clipped that off. In fact, maybe I just don't, I think I erased it, hell with it. I do have a couple of interesting clips before we wrap. How about the no labels? We gotta go a little bit longer, just like 10 minutes. I learned about no labels and who's behind it. I'm curious what you have. Yeah, no labels is a... There's this thing called no labels and it looks like a No Agenda sticker actually.

CHAPTER 19 / 29 Discussion

No Labels Organization and Mark McKinnon

The "No Labels" political organization is deconstructed as a partisan front for Democrats and establishment figures. Founders Nancy Jacobson and Mark McKinnon are scrutinized for their ties to the Clinton administration and the Council on Foreign Relations, while the group's 501(c)(4) status is described as a lobbying scam.

no labels· nancy jacobson· mark mckinnon· james tish· cfr· 501c4

1:51:25 No labels, not left, not right, forward is their motto. And they have a lot of little buzz phrases. They produce a fancy movie and they had a big event in New York, I think it was last week, at Columbia of all places. And the no labels people, when you start looking into their background, especially, I mean, they named it, well let's play the opening here. I've got the no labels, they'll announce the people and then this woman comes out, Nancy Jacobson, and what's interesting about her You can't see this on the audio, but just take my word for it, and this is the no labels clip. As she's talking, you talk about body language, I don't think she has Parkinson's. I looked her up, she's 46. She doesn't shake her head normally, but when she's talking, she's shaking her head in a no motion left and right. Well, that's why they chose her for no labels.

1:52:17 She's, whatever she said, she said, and we're gonna be completely independent, and then she shakes her head. Are you sure it's not like a tick or something? That's what I kept thinking, but then when she stopped talking, or when she talked about something else, it didn't happen. It was only happening during this... But that's like a Tourette's thing, because I have like the yes thing. My tick is yes. Okay, well it's possible. I still it does look a little bit like a tick but it was amusing because when she the more the bigger the assertion the more they had went back and forth no and It was just a PR nightmare. It was six. That's the funny part. She's like a PR person and what's her name? Nancy Jacobson and we'll talk about her in a second but play this clip here to introducing the conference and you get an idea. Oh

1:53:08 is attempting to bring people from different political persuasions together to reach agreement on policy issues. We'll hear from New York Times columnist David Brooks, New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, and former Virginia Congressman Tom Davis. Columbia University in New York hosts this event. It's about an hour, 20 minutes. Please welcome No Labels Founder, Wow, is that is that your clip or is that my system screwing up again? That's you I got my clips clean. Hold on a second I think I have a way to fix this really quickly I think I figured it out and although I did all kinds of stuff on the computer To make sure this didn't happen. Guess what? That's what computers do on Preferences it's a it only happens when we're playing your clip. You'll notice I

1:53:58 Well, I can code it in a... I can send you WAV files. No, uh... funding leaders. Crap, wait. Nancy Jacobson. Let's play a little longer. Wait, wait, wait, just that part. Well, no, it's unlistenable. Well, play it. It may only be that one second. Hold on a second. It's just unlistenable. It's... what one second? What do you mean? No, I say maybe that was just that... you just caught just a second of some... No, no, no. Bill Galston. No, it's sucking. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It sounds bad. Sucking. Crap. Hold on. Sorry. Well, let me talk about the background while you're fixing it. Talk about it while I fix it. Okay, so I'm watching this is No Labels conference and this woman Nancy Jacobson's shaking her head saying one thing or another. She comes out first and there's two other people and then another guy comes out with gray hair and another guy and then the head honcho, the guy who's really the uh that really appears to be the main guy behind is this guy Mark McKinnon. Now Nancy Jacobson is

1:54:52 ex-clinton she's very closely so it's so she would be clinton campaign also with the uh... hillary campaign she's a clintonian her husband uh... is mark and the cd all of burson marsteller what's that that's the one of the biggest ad agency, er PR agencies in the world. Okay, okay, yeah, makes sense. Check. And so they're like hooked up and he is the person, he was the personal PR guy for Clinton, Tony Blair and Bill Gates among others. And the chief strategist, he was the chief strategist for the Hillary Clinton 2008 campaign. Now this was supposed to be a course, this group was supposed to be all bipartisan, not left, not right, bullcrap.

1:55:39 Everybody's a left winger and then the guy who comes out who purports to be the right winger because he worked for the Bush administration but he's a Democrat and who is a, or you know if you read his Time magazine biography he's a fellow Democrat they call him. Mark McKinnon who apparently made friends with Bush somewhere along the line and according to Karl Roves because he liked, because Bush supposedly liked his cool image So I'm watching this guy in this cool image so everybody comes out in suits and ties are pretty formal this guy comes out in a leather car coat You know that's that's a like a bomber jacket. It's kind of beat up that beat up leather That's so cool, and then a long scarf a gray scarf that drapes over his neck and hangs on both sides It's kind of like a little like he's a priest and

1:56:26 So I'm seeing this guy and he's just such a, he's just such one of those guys you see him all over the place. They're totally full of themselves. He's like a Jimmy Wales. Yeah well he's, Wales doesn't dress so much like this guy. Obviously he has a uniform that makes him cool. So he wears the leather and the scarf. So I'm thinking well maybe it's just this one time thing even though he's completely out of place with everybody else there. But then he shows up on Meet the Press And he's wearing this stupid scarf outfit again on Meet the Press defending himself because apparently he was attacked by Frank Rich at the New York Times and then I got attacked.

1:57:03 And so he's got this clip and if you get this other thing fixed we can listen to a little bit of that but then if you hear the Mark McKinnon on Frank Rich clip you go wow this guy, I mean obviously he's not a math genius but... Do you want to play that? I think I just got everything fixed here. Mark McKinnon on Frank Rich? No, no, well actually, okay let's play the Mark McKinnon on... Now Mark McKinnon, he's on there, he's the only guy that's not in a suit, you know, suit and tie, he's just dressing this outfit with a scarf on again hey buddy you're inside your in a studio you don't need a scarf but okay play because they don't want they think it's magical thinking when quarry booker works with governor christie working together for solutions they don't want that because it doesn't help their ratings it doesn't help their profits in frank rich attacked us in the new york times today saying we only had three black speakers will obviously didn't watch the event was doing sloppy research because we had three prominent featured african-american speakers including mayor booker who spoke uh... about the

1:58:00 all the things that he's doing as mayor there so it's been a tremendous response we're getting from the middle of America who think that we need to work together like the vice president said. Well now did you hear the math here? No. You go back, you're trying to fix something. Yeah, I'm just laying out... Go back, he says, you gotta hear this again because the math, let me just tell you what it is, you can play it again just so everyone can hear it. Frank Rich says there were not enough African Americans, there were no minorities there actually, it was just a bunch of old white Democrats. He said Frank Rich says there were only three and he says well, let's see Frank Rich has never never saw the event because we had three black Americans. Oh, yeah, no idea But it was three prominent black America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's only three. We had three but it was still three Clearly wasn't part of the whole show that was we had three. Yeah. No, I did catch that I saw that somewhere else Maybe I saw it live. I'm trying to you may have seen it on I followed the money

1:59:05 and uh... in one of the key backers of this uh... no labels group is uh... james tish do you know that is yeah i said from the tish family yes of the billionaire tish family uh... who runs cbs right cbs and uh... he's also a member of the council on foreign relations No, that would make sense. So when you got money coming in from CFR and from CBS, please. I mean, just stop. Yeah, you got the first and most stellar part of the package. Just stop with me, okay? So here's another thing that you should note. People should note this. They say, you know, this is the, I think this is like a total interesting scam. There are 501C4. Yeah, no, I noticed that. That is not the 5013C or whatever. That's something different. No, it's always C before the last number.

1:59:55 So, 501c3 is a non-profit, educational, whatever you want to be, and it's a business. If you send money to a 501c3, it's tax deductible. 501c4 is not tax deductible, A, they can do political ads, and they are essentially lobbyists. Yeah, it's a little hold so why be anything but it once you just become a limited liability partnership This is only used 501 c4 as a scam because you associate it with 501 c3, right? Yeah, it's a total scam and it's and you know who the money is behind it all Rothschild

2:00:32 What do you mean Rothschild? Yeah behind the 501 no no financing this this whole no label scam Oh, I wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. No I mean I can tell you exactly it's you have From to from I think I got to look it up now I'm gonna find it here. Anyway, there's even a link in the show notes. You can find it. The money is literally being siphoned through Rothschild. So the point is, is that, well, you know... That's Tisch, I'm sorry. Tisch? Yeah. Well, you said Rothschild. No, Tisch is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

2:01:17 uh... which of course is directly related to the royal institute of international affairs which is the uh... think tank policy making our the rothschilds there you go well how do you know that you think it was the right what i knew it's right and the rothschilds come up the only thing in the wineries so uh... The point is that this is a phony baloney operation run by a bunch of pros. I mean, I only looked up two of them and they were pros. And with sketchy backgrounds in terms of like, you know, so-called neutrality, they're Democrats. It's a Democrat front.

2:01:54 You know, design so somewhere down the road they can say, well we tried to do this and we had everybody come together. I mean, I know you can see this coming down Broadway. We had everybody from both sides of the aisle come together and we had came up with policies that would work for the Americans because we want to move forward, not left or right. You know what their timing, the Republicans stopped us. They said no. Well, their timing is off because there's too much going on the wrong time of year is a failed launch. Whoever that PR guy is, he sucks. He was brought in to launch it and it's failed. It's already failed as far as I'm concerned. It's probably a debate with his wife. You know, he may have been... You don't know that he didn't say, you know, this is not a good time to do this. I think I'd put this off till the spring. No, no, no. She shakes her head again. No, no, no. I don't believe you. We should do it now. Because one of the things, if you listen to her speech, now that you mention that,

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

WikiLeaks Predictions and Julian Assange Drag Queen Rumors

The hosts discuss the CIA's "WikiLeaks Task Force" and predict future leaks regarding the Clinton Foundation. They also reference a tabloid report from Australia claiming Julian Assange previously performed as a drag queen, viewing it as a character assassination attempt by intelligence agencies.

wikileaks· julian assange· cia· clinton foundation· bank of america· john young

2:02:42 She makes it very clear in there saying everybody said this wouldn't work and she starts to excoriate the everybody that was not in the room. I don't know who she's talking about. Maybe this is like aimed right at her husband because the event was fairly well attended. Okay, moving on. I need to open a new segment on the show. If you don't mind. Are we done with no labels? Yeah, we might as well be. I think we should just do a WikiLeaks prediction corner. I think it's worth it. First of all, I do want to mention... Do we have a jingle? No, but this is the way I set it up. So if I say, you know, we have like a WikiLeaks jingle, someone will come up with something genius like Jeff Smith. So first of all, we just have to stop and laugh for a second at the CIA created WikiLeaks task force. Yeah, everybody made a joke out of it. Ha ha ha WTF, get it?

2:03:36 on the news that uh... uh... we can use would be releasing some information about a bank rumor to be bank of america uh... large bank stocks have soared since uh... since he said that so i don't know what that's about the and that's annoying is very annoying maybe someone's got some big puts or something and i don't know something's up because i mean i had it i put it on the dh on plugged show as a short and bank of america specifically based on this and it goes up because i have a lot of my friends that i think it did you lost money on the deal uh... i did hear money john young john young is that what one of the original wiki leaks founders and he now runs crypt on dot org and i guess they had a falling out he and uh... and uh... and julienne assange

2:04:27 uh... as a crypt on the record to me or whatever i think i think it's crypto music for what could be criticized with any but trip i think it's crypto cripple whatever it is that's been around for a while though this will you know they fell out very early on when julian i was looking for five million dollars it then and then what john does he publish the whole email thread uh... of the winter so i remember that going after the five million dollars and as i have a bit of beef personality i think the personality conflict But he said something very interesting. He said there is a lot of stuff coming out and everything will now be a WikiLeak. Of course, there's tons of information that's around. So it's like a secure, it's a theater now. And it doesn't even matter where it comes from. Anything that is just called a WikiLeak or a something Wiki, a WikiFu or something leak, the general public will take it as truth.

2:05:19 But there's a lot of stuff that's going to come out and he said something in an interview that I heard which I found to be amazing. He said, look for real news to come out and he mentioned a bunch of things like political stuff and then he said the Clinton Foundation. And I got like, wow, you know, why would he say that? And then of course when you think about it, how the initial dumping... You didn't really say why would he say that, you've been hounding these guys since day one of the show. I can't wait, I'm gonna start it myself. But wouldn't it be great if they actually had some real cool dirt on the Clinton Foundation beyond the stupid reports that I pour through? Wouldn't that be awesome? Yeah, it'd be great. So stuff could really happen. It's coming. And then the, and just to stay on the WikiLeaks,

2:06:08 This comes from a website from Australia, I believe, the Damien Zone. Apparently Julian Assange used to impersonate Jean Harlow in a transvestite or drag queen show in Australia. there's pictures of him as Jean Harlow. And we don't know these are in Photoshop. No, of course we don't know. We don't know anything. All we know is this is time to like slam this guy. It's got nothing to do with WikiLeaks but it's funny. It's fun to do. It's fun to do. Yeah, the headline is Julie Nassange was a drag queen.

2:06:49 But I love it when he gets all pissed off about people leaking reports about him. That's when he gets all angry. Oh, that's not it. They're trying to make him out to be a hypocrite. Of course! Of course! Of course! I like it. It's very well done. It's exactly how it works. This is the way, this is good what intelligence agencies can do. It's fantastic. It really is. I mean, we are in for a lot of fun in 2011. Oh, this is a, you can't beat it. It's going to be fantastic. Another great piece of PR actually was this report that came out about the Aaron Brockowitz chemical found in 31 US cities.

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

Chromium 6 and Environmental Working Group Report

A report by the Environmental Working Group regarding Chromium 6 contamination in U.S. tap water is analyzed for its potential legal and commercial motives. The hosts suggest the "Erin Brockovich chemical" narrative may be used to facilitate class-action lawsuits or promote specific water filtration products.

chromium 6· erin brockovich· environmental working group· tap water· class action· water filters

2:07:27 and i haven't been able to figure out the angle on this this is chromium which is now a million six million six year which is being so i put all the links uh... in the show notes about the into the e w g the environmental working group a non-profit who gets lots of government grants unlike grants from like the johnson family so that's got to be an angle here and just really feeling it uh... and you might be right and i've noticed that they really had a special they've had two or three specials of their report literally here the executive summary so they don't just say chromium six now it's chromium six the aaron brockowitz chemical is widespread in u.s. tap water

2:08:07 so i think they might be working for someone who is setting up to sue someone because you know this and literally this is the executive summary of their report yeah it could be working for bretta water filters who knows tap water from thirty one of thirty five u.s. cities tested contains heck hexavalent chromium or chromium six the carcinogenic erin brockowitz chemical according to laboratory test commissioned by environmental working group so you know that these guys are working for this in angle somewhere and i'm thinking maybe it's someone who's setting up a class action lawsuit that's about as far as i got but if you look at their and i did it'll resolve shortly it will have to be there there for me what's way too high in the news uh... makes right now they've gotten out of all let's see uh... the johnson family foundation that the murk fund uh... there's lots of pharmaceuticals in here uh... may be a came up with some sort of a uh...

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

GEO Group Acquisition of BI Incorporated

The GEO Group, a major operator of correctional facilities, acquired BI Incorporated for $415 million. BI Incorporated is known for manufacturing electronic monitoring bracelets and remote alcohol detection systems, signaling an expansion of the private prison industry into home-based detention.

geo group· bi incorporated· electronic monitoring· private prisons· bank of america· gitmo nation

2:09:01 an antidote or something that uh... it's gotta be well the of the only other thing i could think of is maybe it's a red herring to distract from the stuff that's really bothering us which is aluminum and barrier well not you have a drug companies involved which really should be bothering people's the amount of actual drugs in the water taken out of the water because people flush stuff down the toilet it gets into the water system it goes out did you know it goes into the bays or goes here goes there people are throwing i mean there's there's literally uh... there's literally a tonnage of drugs that get flushed out the sea I mean it's like you know I'm surprised they're not these fish aren't all roided up you know. Quick follow-up I mean that's just so much John I just want to get through the follow-up stuff BI incorporated has been acquired BI known as the behavioral what was it called behavioral well it's the Gitmo nation jewelry people

2:10:02 uh... the people who make uh... the other guys who make the the the band it will monitors yeah a little more than they do the uh... uh... alcohol remote alcohol detection system that we know where they are go they do the parolee stops that were acquired by geo g e o which is a list of new york stock exchange for four hundred and fifteen million dollars since the l I think it's a steal too actually. I mean compared to what these Silicon Valley companies pay for each other, that's a deal. What's the name of the company that bought them? GEO. The symbol is G E O and a very interesting company. They actually run correctional facilities. They are a jail company so it totally fits with what they do because now this is just an extension of jail where you will be in jail in your home

2:10:50 interesting group this geo group their board of directors has former correctional department shills I mean everybody on there is a good investment Geo looks like a great investment actually I think they're going to grow quite big. Financing brought to you by Bank of America Merrill Lynch Barclays Capital Sun Trust JP Morgan they all provided 425 million dollars of committed financing for the all cash transaction good job guys. Yeah good work. Good work. Good work. Smart move but that's just a step. Geo is gonna be bought. I already know the company. I was gonna buy them really Yeah, that'll be the deal. So do you know there'd be a buyout candidate? So it's a double good I think it's a double way I'm not in bed by the way. This show is not it's not investment of the night. It's a different investment I'm just saying out of the blue maybe it's something good But I have a couple things on you want and is the the Geo group is a world leader in delivery of correctional detention residential treatment services Around the world United States Australia South Africa United Kingdom. They're your new buddies. Okay, give him give him get Mo

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

Bank of America Reward for Found Cash

Four children in the San Francisco Bay Area found $40,000 in cash belonging to Bank of America and turned it over to the authorities. The bank's decision to reward the group with only $200 is criticized as a deterrent to future honesty.

bank of america· santa clara· finders fee· cash· reward· sheriff

2:11:53 I have a question for you. Say you lost $40,000. on the street or just I know you were that you're on it on a cab I'm the cabbie and you left $40,000 in my cab is a huge hypothetical here so I call so I got the 40,000 I say hey buddy you left $40,000 in my cab what would be the finders fee you'd give me for giving you the money back as opposed to just stuffing it in my you know in my under my bed if you gave it back to me what I give you yeah what would you give me as a finder's I give you 10%

2:12:31 I give you four grand. You give me four grand, okay. Now, so some kids in the Bay Area found $40,000 and the punchline is what they got back from the Bank of America who apparently was robbed of this money. Play the clip, kids find $40,000. The locals, if anybody's been searching for a large sum of money because it didn't belong to us and we can't keep money that doesn't belong to us. After talking it over they found a Santa Clara County Sheriff's deputy and turned over the money. Tonight Bank America awarded them with a check for $200. Good job guys! Here's a hundred each. Wow. No, there were four kids. Fifty each! It's even better. They must be so angry.

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

Netherlands Bank Run Legislation

New legislation in the Netherlands reportedly makes it illegal to incite a bank run. Individuals who publicly encourage others to withdraw their funds from financial institutions could face up to four years in prison and significant fines under the new law.

netherlands· bank run· financial law· free speech· euro· censorship

2:13:17 What the JIP? Totally. And it was cash? Yeah. Oh man, stupid kids. That'll teach ya. Well I mean the Bank of America is discouraging people from giving the money back obviously because 200 bucks doesn't cut it. Speaking of Bank of America, Gitmo Nation Lowlands is now passing a law you cannot incite a bank run. It will be illegal in the Gitmo nation states of the Netherlands lowlands to actually say hey you should go get your money from the bank it'll be against the law. It's illegal to tell people to get their money out of the bank. You can't say it. You can't say it. Is that a thought crime? What's the deal? Yeah, you're not allowed to come out and say in public go get your money from the bank. In public. But you can whisper to your friend. Well, you can get a max of four years in jail

2:14:13 and a nineteen thousand euro fine uh... let me see if there's any and it doesn't say specifically i think it's more like you can't you just can't go on the internet or you can't go on television and say uh... you should go get your money out of the bank that will be a an actual crime that's pretty cool huh yeah that sounds like something we should implement here in this country while you're spying on your neighbor if you have time left over So, talk about time, I've got one thing here that needs to be played, the other stuff we can move. Okay. But I've got the thing, the BS clip of the week. This was on the Rachel Maddow show, live and in concert. You know, stand-up comics. She doesn't ask anything about this when it happens. But see if you can tell me where the BS is in this clip of the week. To gather intelligence, especially when it's so much intelligence that it's hard to decide.

CHAPTER 25 / 29 Discussion

Radioactive Isotope Detection in New York City

A segment on the Rachel Maddow Show claimed that security vehicles in New York City are powerful enough to detect a single person who has ingested a medical radioisotope on a passing cruise ship. The hosts dismiss the claim as fear-mongering "bullcrap" designed to intimidate the public.

rachel maddow· radioactive isotopes· homeland security· surveillance· cruise ships· manhattan

2:15:07 Our intelligence budget has doubled since 9-11. I wanted to talk to you about this today because of the 9-11 first responders health care bill passing. It took us nearly 10 years to get that done. But it took us no time at all to double the intelligence budget. And the question is whether we will ever know we've got Our money's worth whether we're getting anything that's worth paying for with that doubling of that budget well a lot of the money has gone to Probably useful things hard equipment that things in New York City for example vehicles that can sniff out Radioactive devices I've been in these vehicles in New York City, and they are powerful enough to detect

2:15:43 someone who has had a medical test and has swallowed a radio isotope in their system on a cruise ship passing New York City Wow wow wait a minute and I'm worried about money they're detecting if I have a radio isotope if I'm chipped Wait a minute, let's go over this again. Oh my god. So you took a little radiation pill or a shot or whatever so you can have yourself checked out on one of these devices for liver cancer or whatever you use it for. Right. And just a small amount. And you're on a cruise ship. Yes, I'm passing New York, the island of Manhattan. And you're passing by the island of New York on a cruise ship and this device can spot you.

2:16:30 Yeah, bullcrap! It can hone in. It is so powerful. That's right, be very afraid slaves. We got you nailed. And she goes, oh wow, really? Wow, that's amazing. Wow, that's great. I should talk with you about Taser. I want to do a little more work on this. There are devices that can spot radioactivity from a distance and a lot of satellites have these things installed. But this one, this little particular anecdote seems a bit much. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Well there's been a lot of

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

TSA Budget and Screener Pay Narrative

The hosts identify a media meme suggesting that TSA screeners are underpaid and overworked. They argue this narrative is being used to justify a massive budget increase for the Department of Homeland Security and to eventually provide TSA agents with badges and firearms.

tsa· dhs· mike huckabee· airport security· brown shirts· budget

2:17:07 uh... homeland security a noise of course and uh... you know particularly all these primarily cnn reports that say oh you know everyone's uh... happy now with uh... with this with the scanners uh... and you know that we are with its we hate taking off our shoes more than that pat downs But what is really coming, and you can take it from me, is that they're going to go for a big huge budget to get more TSA brown shirts in. That is just so clear everywhere. Big article, horrible screener job gets worse. Oh, they're so sad, they don't make enough money, everyone's crying, they need more break time.

2:17:52 Yeah, and one of the things you hear, in fact I heard it from Huckabee who's getting a lot of news time, or air time because they're trying to run him. But Huckabee, and this is a meme, you'll hear it over and over again, and it goes like this, oh you know, but at the same time, yeah this is bad that they're doing this, but at the same time you gotta feel sorry for those TSA people having to do all this, and they're so underpaid. They always throw in the fact that they're not paid enough. Underpaid, yeah, they're underpaid, exactly. So the idea is you just pay them more. It's paying more give him a badge give him a gun. I think the guns gun is next gun is next Oh, yeah, yeah, and we have it like there. That's the little homeland. There's your homeland security group to Transportation they actually all part of DHS. So what so this is this a moment to depart while we're all like oh Really happy and positive about everything

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

Oprah Winfrey's Ultimate Favorite Things Giveaways

Oprah Winfrey's lavish audience giveaways, including 3D televisions and cars, are characterized as a "cult-like" display of power over "slaves." The hosts also note her giveaway of trips to the Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert "Rally to Restore Sanity," which they refer to as a "rally for douchebags."

oprah winfrey· ultimate favorite things· volkswagen beetle· colbert· stewart· slave driver

2:18:40 I'm looking at my list, I don't see, oh well there's the Oprah thing which I can do anytime but I found the Oprah giving, by the way she looks like she's insane now. I don't know if you've noticed this but Oprah and that, we had a clip of her the other day, she's crying out of the blue about the helicopter. Yeah, we already did that one. And she was crying, yeah I know, she was crying about being, not being a lesbian and I don't know what. She wasn't talking to her team. And now, and she's got, she actually looks like a maniac when she's giving away stuff which she does, which I think by the way is patronizing and I think it's something sick about it. You just like throwing, it's like being the you know the king of your little fiefdom and you throw you know coins or chicken feed at the peasants. Yeah. They all scramble around, they scream and they yell and they think you're the greatest thing in the world. It's like beads at Mardi Gras. Well you can play the Oprah gifts, Oprah gifts the second clip which is Oprah. Okay.

2:19:34 this was a happy yes she's the host of the highest rated talk show in american history and every year around the holidays she has an episode in which she gives away some of her favorite things but this year one episode wasn't enough The 300 audience members for the first episode of Oprah's Ultimate Favorite Things received a free 52-inch 3D television, a diamond watch, a seven-day Royal Caribbean cruise with round-trip flight included, plus 20 other gifts. Those present for the second episode received a free iPad, diamond earrings, a 2012 Volkswagen Beetle, and 17 other gifts.

2:20:25 Wow, all we do is a de-douching. We're like lightweights. But it's like, something about it is kind of, in fact, Bill Maher came out against this idea that she's over the top. And they actually, they played this other clip, which I have the Oprah giveaway to the rally. She gave away, and you have to see Oprah because she goes crazy. She's yelling and screaming and the audience is going nuts. I mean, it's almost like a cult. She gave away tickets with a round trip ticket in a hotel room to the to the Colbert John Stewart rally rally for douchebags. Yeah. Yeah. Rally for douchebags and she was they were playing this on the Stewart show Colbert looked like he was not happy with the whole thing even though he made some mention but you can this just an idea of the main you can play the Oprah giveaway to rally clip. You're going to the rally everybody!

2:21:29 It sounds like, uh, developers, developers, developers! Give your face to the wall! You know, she is the ultimate slave driver. Yeah, isn't that ironic? Yeah, isn't it ironic indeed? This is all the slaves and you know, these are usually poor-ish Slaves, just slaves. Human resources, not even useful human resources. And all they want is to get something from Oprah. Yeah. It's the slave driver. And if you watch the videos of this, it's just like, wow. Yeah, it's... These people go berserk. Yeah, it's pretty sad. It's pretty sad. Anyway. So while everyone's... At least she's giving, you know, at least she's giving something away and so what? I guess. Right. And then did you hear about this Hal Turner guy?

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

Hal Turner Sentencing and EU Internet Censorship

Internet shock jock Hal Turner was sentenced to 33 months in prison for threatening federal judges. The discussion links this case to broader efforts in the European Union to implement internet censorship laws under the guise of countering illegal content and terrorism.

hal turner· first amendment· internet shock jock· european union· censorship· terrorism

2:22:23 in new jersey we're going to be internet shock jock no shot the uh... i'd never heard of this guy and says north bergen new jersey that i live near near north bergen north bergen internet shock jock hal turner sentenced to thirty three months in prison by three chicago of for threatening three chicago federal judges apparently he said on his show uh... that they should die and i'm thinking well it sounds like freedom of speech to me uh... well here it is uh... the case stemmed from the seventh u s circuit court appeals ruling two thousand nine three judges upheld a district court decision dismissing lawsuits a challenge

2:23:08 uh... that's not the one looking for uh... of course i mean the problem is threatening judges is one thing but it depends on how is you know i mean it was he threatening them no it was just saying you may be made had an opinion but of course you know that you have to do you have to say if you're gonna fool around with uh... this kind of you know shock jock kind of thing you start telling people they should be dead uh... i don't think judges who have not had a hearing these cases you know this kind of a fraternity if you know what I'm saying? He said these judges must die. That's apparently what got him in trouble. Yeah, well I think it's a First Amendment thing, he could say that if he wants but it's probably not a wise thing to do, it was an idiotic thing to do because of judges. You know judges are, you know, it's a tough job, I mean you get threats.

2:23:55 You don't need this aggravation, you know, screw that. That's probably what they were saying. Hey, hey, you know, we don't need this aggravation from this guy. Yeah, get rid of him, put him in jail. These other guys said we don't need, we already have enough crap going on with crazy, you know, people that come before us. We don't need this and it's not, you know, it's like, I think it's a first amendment thing, but at the same time I think it's ill-advised to take that tact. All right. uh... okay stuff that's in the show notes that uh... we just didn't have time for today uh... the draft recommendations for public private cooperation to counter the dissemination of illegal content within the european union i e the in european union internet censorship uh... law have a look at that very very fun you're gonna love what uh... uh... the terrorism uh... clauses which basically allows you did be shut down for anything

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Outro, CES Plans, and Las Vegas Meetup

The hosts conclude the episode by discussing their holiday plans and the upcoming Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas. John C. Dvorak expresses interest in a Las Vegas meetup, leading to a brief disagreement with Adam Curry regarding the logistics of hosting a live audience during the show.

ces· las vegas· bobby eden· amsterdam· silicon valley· no agenda

2:24:49 uh... which reminds me we should start a clip earlier and you saw the same thing i saw the reports we talked about the terrorism uh... homegrown terrorism they can show you these really can't they can't they can shut down uh... the right on videos why don't they just call up google and say hey boys here's the eleven thousand clips that we found a cbs does what we have eleven thousand we know what they are here so that you're still at your house uh... i think i'm down now that remove them Yeah, they remove something I did once because there was nothing. I mean, it's like they can remove the stuff at the drop of a hat. Yeah, they remove it if you put in two bars of Prince. Yeah. A little bit of Al Qaeda from the Inland Empire, and they just leave that in there.

2:25:35 I know, I know, I know, I know. Alright, we didn't get to a lot of stuff actually. It was just too much. The world is spinning out of control. However, the good news is that we will be back here on Sunday and Sunday is, what is the 26th John? Is that the officially the second day of Christmas? Yeah. My true love gave to me. Yeah. So we're not taking a break during the holidays. In fact, right after that show, I will be driving with my daughter and my fiancé to Big Bear. Your fiancé? Yes, my fiancé. Your daughter and your fiancé? Oh, your daughter with your... Okay. Yes. I thought you meant that you were going to marry your daughter. No, that would be creepy.

2:26:17 Needless to say. I'm going to be, by the way, in Las Vegas for the CES show. Oh really? You're going? Wow, that's a big deal. Yeah, I figure I have to go once every five years. But you know the adult video awards is at the same time, so... Yeah, I usually go to those too. And you know that Bobby Eden's gonna be there. Yeah, well, I should meet her. So anyway, on that Thursday, I'm going. Maybe I think it might be a good idea to have a Las Vegas meetup. Well, hold on. You can't do a meetup without me. I'll fly out. I just need, well if you want to fly out that's fine but I want to do the show at some secure location where I don't have to worry about the hotel internets during a period of time when there's a bunch of geeks on the, you know, hogging the band. Right, right. So you're looking for a... I'm looking for an audience and a place to do the show.

2:27:04 You're looking for a halfway house. Yeah, a halfway house. Okay. And then what day is this? What day is the calendar open here? That will be January what? It will be January 6th that I need the we need to do this. Why don't I just come out? What's it gonna do for that? It's gonna ruin the show. Well, I don't want you doing a meetup. It's an audience for the show. I just need a place to do the show. You're gonna do the show with an audience? Well, no, I do I if that if we want I mean I'm no sure no I don't want you to do that I mean either we both go and we say hi to people and we do a meeting great and you feel sorry for you But you can't like do your half of the show like Rachel Maddow with a live audience They can't do that. That's not acceptable Okay, well fine. I'll get but I still need a place to do the show just in case the hotel connection is no good. Oh

2:27:57 I just want... You had a thing in Amsterdam, I wasn't there. You had this huge audience, a bunch of naked women. No, I didn't have an audience, I didn't do the show from there. Well, this is just, I'm trying to do two things at once. Well, don't. It's not a good idea. You can do the show and you can do a meet and greet, but you can't do a meet and greet and a show at the same time. Okay, we'll do the show separately. Why don't we have a meeting about this? Oh, meetings. I'm not gonna do the meeting. I refuse. I'm gonna play a song for you. actually is the sixth on a place that is the last clip john they will talk to you on sunday a company from given nation west uh... i am the uh... leader of the al-qaeda in the in them from empire and my name is adam curry uh... he's gonna get in trouble for saying that you know i hope so but hold on hold on hold on i lost you know i should i should

2:28:46 What happened? I don't know, I just lost you. I'm up here in Northern Silicon Valley and I'm the leader of nothing. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on No Agenda. R-E-S-P-E-C-T Respect Authority Obey Authority Come on, come on Respect Authority Come on Obey Authority Real World Order Shut up, sleep!