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00:01 We found the banana and the nutmeg, kid. You're under arrest. We have the place surrounded. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Action. It's Sunday, December 12th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 260. This is no agenda. Avoiding nutmeg and black dog leashes here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gibbon Nation West in your People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. I'm the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no such thing as Kettling that's spelled with a K and a T, I'm John C. DuVora. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. But I think you guys do have ketamine.

00:43 We do? Of course you do. We have a cat man do. In the morning to you my friend John. In the morning to you Adam and to all ships at sea! And to the boots on the ground and to the wings in the skies. We've added a wrinkle there's nobody listening on this Guy totally hey how many look how many emails did you get this week from ships at sea? I got like four or five. I got one okay. Well people don't even know you're eat They always send it to me. I couldn't find John's email address which always

01:19 You know if you just look on the return address to all those emailings that we sent out, it's got it on there. And of course I'd like to hand out a big in the morning to all of our human resources who are all charged up and ready to go in the chat room at noagendachat.net. Charged up at 98%, maybe even 9 or 9er because that's the way your government wants you, filled with energy that we can sap from you. Sap away! There's a lot of energy sapping news this week. Well before we start, a part personal note, but it really was triggered by something that happened in the Robert Gibbs show. We still don't have a jingle for him. Robert Gibbs of course is the spokesman for the White House.

02:08 And he was asked about, because you know there was this news that came out John, I don't know if you saw it or heard it, it was hard to miss. I don't know if it was WebMD or the Surgeon General, I don't know if there's a difference. They came out and they said, you know secondhand smoke is so bad that if you even read the word secondhand smoke on a piece of paper you will die. That was essentially how bad secondhand smoke was. Did you catch this news? No, I don't know why they're going back to this old bromide. It was like a new study and it was about secondhand. Well, of course, you know, we have to outlaw it completely. We, you know, because that's just the start, right? We take away your cigarettes and we take away your alcohol and then we take away everything else.

02:50 And of course, but the second was really everywhere. It's like secondhand smoke. If you even say secondhand smoke, you are starting to die just from saying it. And so of course, the press conference, someone says, hey, so how's our president doing with that smoking thing? Many people say it could be linked to pressure or it could be something to relax. Relax the president. What did you see the president do? What was the time frame? How did it happen? What was he involved in at that time when he was smoking the last time smoking? So this is a whole question about the president smoking.

03:26 And I just want you to listen to the reasoning why the why the president actually smokes Someone hawking up a lung in the background and that's a smokers cough I Can't remember the last time I i don't remember the individual setting i don't know that i would disagree i don't know that i would disagree uh... uh... and i'm not a smoker but i think if you asked him he would likely say that for both uh... again i hesitate to do this on camera i hate to say this on camera but it's both for what what what say why does he smoke just in terms of for both

04:17 for enjoyment and for some relaxation as from the pressure that you mentioned again I hate to... Okay, enjoyment and some relaxation. Why does he say he's addicted to it? A. Or he likes smoking. B. Or who cares whose business is it of anyone's? And the fact of the matter is this is going on for so long, why doesn't Obama just be honest with the public and come out and smoke one of these babies right in public? Okay, so I'm listening to this, and John you know I haven't made mention of it, but this is day seven. Miss Mickey and I have completed one week of not smoking. Day seven!

04:58 and we gave it up cold turkey now i have given up uh... marijuana after a ten-year habit of smoking from the moment i woke up and known as the waking bake uh... to the moment i would make it it's true to a good idea everybody wake in a at the moment i went to bed and i would uh... smoke a i'd literally i i'd take a couple drags and then go to bed atlanta and can i go interrupt here So you and you brought this up a few times every once in a while you kind of ask me, have you noticed the difference? Have you noticed the difference John and I always say the same thing because it's a fact no I have noticed no difference between the pre smoke dope smoking wake and bake Adam Curry and the current Adam Curry It really had very little effect on your personality as far as I could tell you what going around like But anyway

06:00 And I'm not noticing, by the way, let me interrupt again. Uh-huh. I'm not noticing a difference in the seven days or as I would put it, seven days! Seven days. Of your stop smoking. You're not irritable. Well, maybe you are at home, but you're not irritable on the show and it's not noticeable and like you said, you haven't brought it up. Right. And I don't think anyone would have picked up on it. But go ahead, go on with your story. So, well, what I was going to say is that quitting marijuana was easy. quitting nicotine is hard it is really really hard and if it were not for Mickey and I doing it together I probably would have buckled because even as recent as as yesterday there are these moments during your your quitting process where you go

06:47 I really need a smoke and it's like a physical, I'm like freaking out I want a cigarette. And imagine the internet was down for six hours on Thursday night. I had no porn because all my porn is online. I didn't know what to do with myself and I was like I was so close to smoking. Now the thing that is motivating me is that I am stronger than our pussy-ass president of the United States of America I challenge Barack Obama to quit smoking for relaxation from the stress of the job Bullcrap quit that and you're a real man a real man. I tell you he's so weak. He's so weak He can't stop smoking if I if your president

07:28 If you're president of the United States of America and you've got all this stuff going on around you and you have to, I mean you can do crack for all I care but the smoking thing, you really, if you can't get beyond that, and you can't, everyone's laughing about it, it's now a national joke, our president is hooked on cigarettes. If he can't quit that, then he is too weak to hold the office. Well, let me go back to my point. Either So, if he doesn't want, let's say this, he doesn't want to quit, I mean maybe he does. I didn't want to quit either. Well that's true, but okay, but let's just go back.

08:04 what is the point of being so secretive about you know what does he do run off into the back outside the back of the White House and... I understand that the room next to the Oval Office known as the Clinton room where he used to put the cigars and interns I believe that is now a full it's a full-time smoking lounge for the president and he slips in there that's what I've heard okay well that's fine but you know why does he hide it from the public why doesn't he come out and light up. I mean, everybody watches Mad Men, we know how it works. We know what it looks like. We know what it looks like. It's not a... What is he doing? What is that weird thing he's sticking in his mouth? He's lighting it. Where's the Secret Service? The President is on fire! He's got a flame in his face. And which Obama is the smoker, by the way? Do you think there's one that doesn't smoke and they roll him out?

08:55 Yeah, I think Obama number two probably. And talking about Obama, why doesn't Michelle, does Michelle smoke? Do we know anything about this possibility? I don't know but she's... Generally couples smoke. Yeah, the good ones. The lasting relationships smoke together. But you know it's beyond the point because I'm not going to be one of those ex-smokers who's a total dick about people smoking. That is the thing I've always hated. But I, you know, it was... I'm on, I'm on, you said like the ex-drinker. Yeah. I'm five years sober. Which, you know, you take somebody out to a bar, you're out there hanging around, if they don't want to drink something, fine, I don't care, but instead... Shut up! Why don't you just say, no, I'm gonna have a Coke or I don't feel like drinking, instead of, I'm five years sober. So what?

09:48 And I want something to drink. I don't care of your five-year sober you want a coke You want a good glass of soda water with a lime in it? I you know, I don't need the five-year sober answer I have never coughed as much by the way. Oh, you're trying your lungs are trying to clear up my trying my lungs are trying to escape through my oral cavity Trying to run away from me It's amazing. I'm feeling really good though, but I guess the physical addiction is gone by now, right? The actual... No! How long does it take? Takes a couple months. Really that long? And then the problem is the socialization problem. That's the real gotcha. It's not really because... Well, you haven't had the pressure. No, but I live in Los Angeles, man. It's like you want to smoke, it's like you gotta go stand in the gutter. That's where you're allowed to smoke. Oh, that's true. In the olden days, everybody, you'd go to a party, everybody'd be smoking up a storm and offering cigarettes to everybody and the next thing you know you're smoking again. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no.

10:48 But it's because you're doing it. Go stand in the cesspool. Literally. Go into the outhouse and crap while you're smoking. It's literally true. But because we're doing it together and and here was my here was my mistake because Mickey's like I really cuz she really wanted to stop I'm like, you know, hey, baby. I'm Dick stupid dick. I am. Hey, baby, whenever you're ready. I'm there with you. I'll stop with you. Oh, yeah, I hate the mistake of agreeing Yeah, and then she's like, oh, I think I have to do like I'll need to hypnotize a shit and I'm like, that's bullcrap just stop and then she stopped I like oh crap No

11:24 But I wasn't and I had that one last one because I'm like would you stop before I was ready? That's a bad thing. I had the one last one Anyway, so but anyway, I challenged the president I think everyone else would challenge the president because if you can't quit that which is hard, it's hard I think it's like heroin hard not that I don't know if I want a president strung out trying to quit tobacco in office Oh man this is like bad let me push this red button. Oh please that's what I mean that I mean if that is if he can't even handle that pressure how about some real pressure anyway. So it's you know the president is now motivated. So you're now holier than thou and you're calling out the president. No I'm calling out the president because he's weak.

12:10 Not because he smokes. I don't care what he does, but he's weak. He's weak. I'm just the opposite of this. I think he should be smoking in public. Anyway, just to prove that he's weak... completely weak. Here's what blew me away ladies and gentlemen as we are watching the White House press room. It was a slow news day so I brought the other guy in. You know he's starting to sound more and more like Elvis in Las Vegas. It's actually it's a combination of Elvis and George Bush.

12:48 He sounds like Bush. Folks, I brought the other guy in. Slow news day. And he pushes... Just listen to this. Obviously there's a big debate going on about taxes and about the need to grow the economy and to create jobs. And just about every day this week I've been making an argument as to why the agreement that we've struck. I gotta go have a smoke break right now so I'm gonna let Billy Boy take over. I gotta go smoke! I gotta go smoke!

12:10 Not because he smokes. I don't care what he does, but he's weak. He's weak. I'm just the opposite of this. I think he should be smoking in public. Anyway, just to prove that he's weak... completely weak. Here's what blew me away ladies and gentlemen as we are watching the White House press room. It was a slow news day so I brought the other guy in. You know he's starting to sound more and more like Elvis in Las Vegas. It's actually it's a combination of Elvis and George Bush.

12:48 He sounds like Bush. Folks, I brought the other guy in. Slow news day. And he pushes... Just listen to this. Obviously there's a big debate going on about taxes and about the need to grow the economy and to create jobs. And just about every day this week I've been making an argument as to why the agreement that we've struck. I gotta go have a smoke break right now so I'm gonna let Billy Boy take over. I gotta go smoke! I gotta go smoke!

13:25 And did you see this? Did you see this thing? Oh, it's terrible. Clinton is an insufferable bore at this point. And by the way, did you see him getting out of his limo to come to that meeting? No, no, I didn't see that. The guy looks like he's a walking dead man. He does, doesn't he? If he lives another five years, it's going to be a miracle. He's gone on a vegan diet, which makes him look really gray and ashen. He's totally gray and ashen, and he's skinny. And he can barely walk, he looks like he's barely able to, you know, just staggering. He's not getting enough protein, his system's not used to this sort of thing. And he's looking like Steve Jobs! I mean, it's just not a healthy look. It's like this, you know... I agree, he doesn't look good. So here's the funny thing. So he wraps up, he's only supposed to do some little ditty. And then Obama's trying to interrupt him.

14:20 Because he wants to leave it was just incredibly funny to me when seeing this this slapstick unfold before my eyes I have a general rule which is that is whatever he asked me about my advice and whatever I say Should become public only if he decides to make it public he can say whatever he wants, but we Here's what I'll say is I've been keeping the first lady waiting for about half an hour So I'm gonna take off. I don't want to make her mad. Please go you're in good hands Amazing amazing Gibbs will call last question you know so you know what I've had this done to me by CEOs of companies and

15:23 Fuck it, I'll say it. Ron Bloom would do this from time to time. It'd be like a big meeting and he just wouldn't find it important enough and then like, alright, Adam's gonna answer these questions and I'll be back and he'd just walk away. It's like the worst thing you can do to anybody and then because he has to go to a Christmas party? It's really weird. Very, very weird. Well, the whole thing was, first of all, Clinton is so out of it and he's so dingy that he, you know, in a daze, he's like in a drug stupor. He doesn't even know he's up there, it seems to me, and he's up yakking away forever. He must be a horrible, boring guy now at a dinner party.

16:01 I paid $100,000 for that douchebag to pour me to tears at my party? Well, I mean he was just in San Francisco giving a speech like Thursday. Yeah. And it was a you know, but I've got reports I actually could have gone to the thing and decided you know that I've got better things to do with my time because you can always get the things on tape and by the way I think that's true with most trade shows nowadays you can usually get the tape Or you can get a you can get a nice video version of it You're not gonna go up get any better than the video. No, you don't have to actually go on him You know what they really got to go to anything anymore Let me just let me just finish this up just just one thing the guy said it was kind of funny which was completely inappropriate about Clinton yeah, okay. Yeah, it's just just to get past and then we should do our executive producers I just want it was bothering me so much that Obama had to go smoke with his wife and

16:53 Gotta go smoke at the Christmas party so Billy boy you can finish it up here because no one believes me. No one believes me. No one believes me when I say it's a good deal. He's totally irked about the whole thing. The Democrats actually got, here's the opportunity for the, you know, they always say, oh the Republicans are the party of no, no, no. And the Republicans gave in on this. They actually, most observers think they gave in more than the Democrats did. And then these liberal, the most liberal of the Democrats are all bitching and moaning. But of course, you know, Hillary's been under such fire from WikiLeaks, we needed a diversion, so Bill had to go in there. But listen to the metaphor he uses for now being in the spotlight at the White House. Mr. President, I get the feeling that you're happier to be here commenting and giving advice than governing. Oh, I had quite a good time governing. I am happy to be here

17:45 I suppose when the bullets that are fired are unlikely to hit me, unless they're just ricocheting. What kind of message is that? What the hell was that? I didn't remember that one. Wow. Yeah, I'm happy to be here when the bullets aren't being fired at me, I might just get hit by ricochet. How inappropriate is that? I'd say the Secret Service should investigate that guy. Alright, I noticed that PayPal was a little bit better than last week, but not much. No, but it was noticeably... We're back up to par, you think? No, no, we're not up to par. We're about two-thirds to three-quarters of the way. This is the thing, is that this attack on PayPal really does make a difference. It really does slow things down.

18:35 I mean so if you are so you know people say I think I'm gonna donate they hit the button nothing happens and then they say I'll do it an hour and never do it yeah and it really does hurt business so yeah if if the idea was to hurt PayPal great it worked I'm sure they're losing millions yeah I'm sure they're losing them and imagine yeah I'm sure it really hurt them but it's hurting other people too Yeah, well, that's the way it is. All right, Steven Pelsmacher, we have three executive producers. Oh, three? Wow. Three. We're gonna, well, I mean, technically we could just give it to Pelsmacher because he's ahead of the other two guys, but we actually have three people that donated the 260 to become members of the exclusive 260 club, which will never be, you can't join it after this, is it? Three guys. That's right.

19:19 and Pelsmacher's at 260.33, added 33 cents for good karma. And he got it. He got it. So that, now he's not officially a member of the 260 club if he doesn't do the exact amount, but we're gonna let him slide I guess. Yeah, I think you're gonna have to do the hit the number. Do the 33 cents as a separate donation. Sean Connolly, or actually Sir Sean Connolly, so we have two of our knights stepping up from Napperville. Of course, it's always the same people, it's rarely anyone new. Well no, that's not true this week. Aaron Ramroth from Amsterdam, the third executive producer at 260 came in and he's new.

19:59 So we have Steve Pelsmacher, Steven Pels, Sir Steven, Sir Sean and Aaron Ramroth from Amsterdam. What does he have in his note? What does he want? He says, good day John and Adam. I'm a long time total douchebag listener since the start. I only decided to give after not being able to cope with the fact that I've been mooching for so long. You guys keep me informed and entertained on my daily commute from Amsterdam to Den Haag. Den Haag. An American expat living here for 12 years, hence the way I can pronounce my name. Now that I'm donating, I'd love to hear any of my friends around the world who are also listening and will admit it. Here's 260 for show, 260 more coming if you play the MILF jingle more. MILF, that's one mother I'd like to f***. Cracks him up, he says. Right on! Well, thank you very much. That's outstanding.

20:53 uh... erin from uh... amsterdam rations and says sir and john that mentions that he's uh... working on a day but for his daughter number one and also uh... uh... he also the second daughter so that's a good news for us he says and so and we have a pal smith got a few extra things coming up later in the show yeah baron baron von pelz markers baron von paz my dad's on paz markers uh... so okay so no associate execs No, just those three guys. So we're still hurting a bit. In the morning Adam and John could you please mention the PR section that owing to a no agenda Christmas miracle, it's a Christmas miracle John, the red no agenda dice arrived from the manufacturer three weeks ahead of schedule. All orders have been shipped including several pairs for yourselves.

21:43 The no agenda patriarchs be sure to substitute them in any and all holiday board game playing That's a good point it's a great line, it's true I never thought about it, but yeah people they all have these board games or something like hotcakes exactly It's I've got one actually I've got a clip for one of them for everyone out. There's looking for a really interesting board game There's the advertisement clip in there you can find it. You want me to do that now? It's the honey bees or the ladybug. Yeah play it. Ladybug game? Okay let's what is the... all right here we go. Little ladybug game for you everybody. Why is it taking so long to open? What's going on? Well so much for our timing. Let me try it one more time. Timing is everything.

22:31 So I've been so apparently if you haven't noticed I was that looking for clips on children's programming Oh, well, let me give you one on children's programming then this is in Gitmo Nation East Brand-new show coming to televisions everywhere just in time for Christmas ladies and gentlemen We interrupt this transmission for a news flash. My name is Dr. Morris Burgs and I'm on my way to Lapland to discover why Christmas 2010 is in crisis.

23:15 my journey at green-santa.com. Now what do you think that could be about? The Green Santa Show. Didn't we go over this last year when they had all these Santa Claus shows? Santa Claus is dead, Santa Claus, there's no snow in the North Pole and what are we going to do? They do it every single year. This is a new show. It's like a new tradition. It's terrible. It's the Green Santa and Christmas isn't because your parents are destroying the world. You must police your parents, you little slaves. There'll be no Christmas for you. And the helper elf is sitting on the shelf looking at you, making sure you're telling your parents what to do.

23:56 I do have and then turn your parents in if they don't do it absolutely they're a little bit further there and get my nation east now before we get to if I got some news on the Cancun Hagen by the way I just want to remind everybody go to work that org slash and a if they want to get in on the action and these executive producer titles by the way are legit yeah they are legitimate absolutely and you can get an exclusive one by joining the club for the by donating the amount of the episode And actually I saw Sir Larry, Sir Larry Lee, who is the only member of the 259er club. He's got it on his, he's got it right there on his email signature. Good. And it looks good too. It looks smart.

24:37 so yes these are official credits you can uh... if you're on i'm dvd you can put them there you can put it anywhere on a resume with the big difference is uh... unlike hollywood will actually vouch for you if you if you need someone's call you know if you want someone to to get a phone call say yes guys really an executive producer okay of a real show uh... so thanks to sir staven bells markers sir sean connelly and erin ramroth i'm pronouncing it correctly i hope are uh... executive producers and Three members, the only members, it never comes back of the very exclusive 260 club. Everybody else out there, go out and propagate this formula loud and proud. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Alright, say it with me now. Shut up, sleep. So speaking of things being the season, John, this report reached me which I did not know.

25:42 I was actually tempted to do me a little bit. You know with my non smoking and everything. This is from Fox News Particularly around this time of year with the with the with the eggnog and everything. There's a danger lurking in your kitchen my friend It's very very dangerous Believe it or not. It is easy access who doesn't have nutmeg in their home, but now that easy access is tempting teenagers She said you know you can get high off of nutmeg This 15 year old Palmdale teen didn't want to share her identity But she revealed to KTLA how teenagers are now turning to nutmeg to get high. How does she take it? She just went and she's like cut

26:21 Yes, the popular kitchen spice, if taken in high doses, can actually give your child a marijuana-like buzz and in some cases act like a hallucinogenic. I'm thinking this is good. And the worst breath ever. First thing I heard was, I don't want to overdose. And alarms went off in my head. Just this week, this is great, teen's mom says she busted her daughter after her phone was accidentally dialed. Listening in on the conversation, she heard the two teens discussing a substance and how much to take to catch the buzz. Oh no. Oh my. No, this is not good. It's a little known spice fact, but after some research we found teens on YouTube experimenting, even discussing the buzz. This teen downing the entire bottle. Many saying the effects take hours to peak. Nutmeg contains a compound which belongs to the deliriant drug family, hence the high. The user often taking three to four tablespoons.

27:19 I think I should. Alright, so hold on a second let's back up. First of all this... It's the evil nut, I tell you. This exact same fractal came out in the late 60s. I was going to say, it must be the 60s. Late 60s, mid to late 60s, and it was always called the prisoner's high back in the day. Right, right. Well, Wikipedia actually talks about it being a thing for prisoners. Yeah, it was used in prison. And if the fractal holds true, the next thing that will come along will be a banana peel.

27:55 Really, I can't wait so we could do that was in fact the the the Donovan song was it was they call it mellow yellow? right was a Reference to this particular oddball high wait a minute is the don't you have to like burn the banana peel and well You know I never knew how it was actually I always thought it was just a hoax and I still believe it might be and But apparently, if I recall, you scrape the inside of the banana peel. You scrape all the... It's not the banana peel. It's the goop that's between the banana and the banana peel. Right. And so you scrape all that crap off and then I think you cook it down and smoke it or you eat it. I don't know what you do with it. Well, this is very important, John. I need to experiment. Well, you can. Yeah, I know you do since you're not smoking now, but I'm sure YouTube has a video about it. So you can just look it up. Honey, buy more bananas. I got it. How about this banana with nutmeg? Now you're talking.

28:47 now it's a so i think this of the base of the fractal holes in the banana peels will be next and uh... there's all kinds of action when there's a lot of stuff out there but his father it was just funny to me that it came out of the same time like really but it is true that in the nutmeg uh... if you if you eat enough of it by the way you probably puke but uh... you you i guess you can get pretty high from it I'm sure you could but I mean, there's a lot of spices that you can get high from. I mean spice is a... Oh? Do tell. Well, I don't know. I mean offhand, but it doesn't take... you can look it up. Kid, alright kid, come out. Put down the banana. Put down the banana and the nutmeg, kid. You're under arrest. We have the place surrounded.

29:29 So the It's what you can look it up. I mean, you know, it's not this stuff is that nowadays all the information's available Know how to do a simple Google search. It's all good. It's all good. Hey Billy boy did have a little bit to say about Haiti No, he did. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to play it. It was so much bullcrap. Oh, yeah, like well, it's like 80 80 trillion billion dollars, you know, we've got the Actually, I should play that because I do have some I really need to say some things about Haiti because this is really nuts over there. Let's listen to what he says, you know, and I want us to row I

30:07 You give us that Haiti update. What? You give us that Haiti update. Haiti update? Yeah, yeah. I had a long talk with the Prime Minister today. The Prime Minister being the Préval. The douchebag. The, uh, yeah, Préval. And, um, he... Was the Prime Minister of Haiti in Washington? Is that where he was? That he had a long talk with him? Or, you know, how does that work? He, first of all, has done a, I think, a remarkable job of being a loyal prime minister but not being involved in the political imbroglio that's going on except to try to keep calm. The political imbroglio? Is that what he said? Wow! That's a four dollar word right there. Imbroglio? I've never used that word.

30:53 I've seen it. I've seen it too, but I've never used I've never written using it I've never said it until now, but I think well words matter so What is the definition of him? Are you sure that was he saying in Broglie? Oh, what was he belching? He actually does belch during this is really funny. Excuse me Let's look this word up What does in Broglie? Oh mean it means a morass? Well, no, that can't be the direct definition. No, I mean it's just like a morass. It's a quagmire. It's a combination of morass, quagmire, and fiasco.

31:35 Well no I understand but I want to have the exact... With violent undertones. Hold on a second I'm looking at you it's like it's like describing wine. Imbroglio okay that's with an I it's not an imbro. Oh yeah it's an imbroglio with an I. Imbroglio an intricate and confusing interpersonal or political situation it's a it's a very proper use of the term yeah quagmire well no but it specifically has to do with a political situation which I find interesting. Well it's fine somebody probably gave him the word. Hey Clint you're gonna make hay with this one you'll get mentioned on some radio show guys will go nuts for this word it's a big big four dollar word a confusion a heap a tangle

32:22 Okay, an entanglement. Okay. In other words, so it turns out that sweet Mickey Martelli is number three on the list. He's getting blamed for all the violence by the way. It's his supporters who are wrecking everything. You mean the guy who probably won? No, no, no, because actually it's the 70 year old woman who appears to be winning but she's not the protégé of Préval. Prime Minister Préval's protégé.

33:00 So that's why they're doing a recount. It's because, well, she can't win, that's not right. I think she's actually probably on the right track and the people of Haiti actually want her. Well, listen what Barry says. Well, they could be blaming the, okay, I mean riots could be a combination of ingredients. No, but they're blaming it on the Martelli crowd. Right. They're blaming it on him. And ask some outside observers to come in. Outside observers. Who could those be, John? Who do you think? The Clintons? That was United Nations of which the... Well it's the Clintons, same thing. Billy Boy is the special envoy. So it's the outsiders. Who are not only credible but knowledgeable. Knowledgeable, they probably did that Bush-Gore thing. They know how to do it. They will announce exactly how they propose to do that. Today was a pretty calm day.

33:47 and they expect the weekend to be pretty calm. We are going to have our commission meeting next week. Hey hold on a second. Is this still at that same press conference? Yes! Wait a minute, hold on a second. I didn't watch the whole thing. I didn't realize that Clinton actually took over the press conference and started doing Clinton stuff. Dude, I'm telling you, Barack left to go have a smoke after 15 minutes and then Clinton like 20 minutes of questions. About everything? Like how you doing? How's your new book? No, no, no, but the start treaty, all kinds of stuff. Oh yeah. He just kept on, it was all kinds of stuff. He took over the place. Totally. And the crazy thing was at the end of it, you know, the press was just like, huh, okay. Because you know, they have like a piece on C-SPAN where they keep rolling the camera. The press was like, oh, well that's typical, you know, whatever, that's Billy Boy.

34:40 Nothing no one's like what what just happened here. What the hell this guy do? Listen a little bit more of this because it's nuts. We're moving everything to the Dominican Republic Because we're afraid of people killing us in Haiti But I think one of the best thing that we can do for the people of Haiti is to prove that the Haitians on the commission and the donors are still committed to the long-term reconstruction process whoever gets elected president. Okay, so this is where the big lie comes in and starts touching his nose and stuff. Now the dollar amounts confused me for a moment when he talked about these. Listen to this. The best thing they can do

35:23 is everyone understands they had to carry out this election under enormously difficult circumstances. They had to carry out the election. I mean it's like it's the biggest crisis in the country in 90 years and no matter what happens people stay in your tents. We have to have an election first before anything else. Just poop in your tent with your cholera. We have to have the election. Nothing else goes above the election. People understand right John? People understand that right? Wow. Yeah. Even getting the ID cards to everybody. Oh, we have to get you your ID card. Please. Your bracelet will be assembled this evening. Just if you're pooping in your tent, it's okay. It's very important. We get your ID bracelets so you can we have to vote no matter what else, you know, prove difficult because they were in those tenanted areas, tenanted areas. I mean, stay in your tented areas.

36:20 I'm so happy I can laugh about it, but it's disgusting. You know those, what do you call them John? Tented areas? Tented areas. It's called a camping ground Mr. President. It's a tented area. But what I can say is it was calmer today. It appears they are going to try to Have a recount procedure which they hope will acquire more support from across the political spectrum Wait a minute we're gonna have a recount procedure which you hope will have more support from across the political spectrum in other words our guy should win That's what that means and meanwhile. We want to commission to keep working the World Bank just released about

37:01 70 billion dollars of the 90 billion dollars in projects we approved four months ago and now have you ever heard this number the World Bank just released 70 billion dollars he says 70 of the 90 billion that can't all be for Haiti 70 billion? I'm not understanding where he pulled that one. Well, let's just listen to it again. It really confused me. The World Bank, right, just approved 70 of the 90 billion. For what? Approving, but what's the approving? Yeah, but it's approve, it doesn't mean anything. Well, the bank just released it back. No, no, they released. They released. Released to who? Released the funds to the tented area.

37:43 Commission to keep working. The World Bank just released about 70 billion dollars of the 90 billion dollars in projects we approved four months ago and so that'll go in we'll be hiring more people immediately in those projects and we're going to approve a lot more projects on the 14th and that's my focus now. Yes. I don't know what he's saying but it sounds like a bunch of bullcrap to me. On the 14th we got a lot of projects 70 70 billion You could, 70 billion, you could buy a house for every single one of the people in the tented areas. Yeah. 70 billion! That can't be all for Haiti. It can't be. No, he's just throwing numbers out. Anyway, there's good news, John, because the World Health Organization, which is also part of the United Nations, who as we know is now confirmed actually brought cholera into Haiti, are now saying, you know what?

38:40 It looks like it's the perfect time to start vaccinating everyone against cholera. Because we've got the vaccine. Did you know there was a vaccine against cholera? Oh yeah, and it's considered the... of all the... if you do a lot of world traveling, especially some areas that are sketchy, you know, you have to get a lot of these shots to even enter the country. You need papers. The cholera shot amongst travelers is considered the worst shot you can get. I've never had one. It's been around for a long time. It's apparently extreme. It's an excruciating experience. Really? Yeah. Apparently two brands of cholera vaccine exist today. Docorol, made in Sweden, which is WHO approved.

39:23 Cost $40 per dose. Yes expensive. Someone's gonna make a bundle on that. Oh, yeah and Sanchal introduced last year by the way, what were we thinking? We knew they were gonna introduce color because color always shows up in these things and And you knew somebody's gonna have to get you know that I didn't think about the vaccination angle It's a it's anyone who even visits Haiti now is gonna have to get one of these very expensive and painful shots well Well there is a new shot... Hey wait a minute, hold on. And by the way, how come the UN workers don't routinely have this shot? So how could they bring it in? Because it sucks! Because the shot sucks, you just told us so.

40:05 Just saying, you'd think that if there were UN workers and they had to go to these countries that they would be immunized. Go ahead. Well, so it's even more interesting that India's Shantha Biotechnics has a vaccine which is not WHO approved but only costs six dollars a dose. Creating a global stockpile. Made from curry. No, but wait, but wait, but wait, here it comes. Made from curry. With nutmeg. Creating a global stockpile against future outbreaks... Oh, here we go. Oh yeah. Building a global stockpile would be very expensive.

40:47 But donor nations like the United States and Canada, foundations and philanthropic groups have raised billions of dollars for vaccines and polio, like polio and other diseases. We think it's time we build a cholera stockpile. So there you go. It's a new way to make some money. These guys never give up. They don't. They just don't. And then what the hell is Sarah Palin doing in Haiti? That like tripped me out. Yeah, well maybe I figured she was tracking a caribou and somehow it took a trip to Haiti. She had to follow it. I mean, what is that about? I mean, she can't be sincere. She just can't be. No, I don't know why. I mean, she's sticking to her... It's horrible. It just doesn't make any sense to me. It's like the new celebrity stop off. It's like, you know, if you haven't been to Haiti, then you're not a true celebrite. I wonder if she got the cholera shot.

41:47 So here is something very, and this will be my last thing on Haiti. There's a French satellite called the, well it's from the French Space Agency which is the CNES, the satellite DEMETER, which I think is Demeter, which is in orbit 700 kilometers above the Earth's surface. Check this out. So someone went looking at, and it monitors all kinds of different things on Earth. Demeter spotted a 360% increase in ultra low frequency radio waves in the ionosphere above Haiti in the month running up to the earthquake. Hello? Trelugia?

42:38 Yeah. No. Well you did for a second but I'm following it. Okay. So again, this satellite measured a 360% increase in ultra low frequency radio waves in the ionosphere above Haiti in the run up to the earthquake. And of course the scientists are saying, well this is very interesting. You know, so does the earth like start to build up these frequencies in... Aren't we supposed to do this in the second half of the show? No, I'm on Haiti right now. This literally happened in Haiti. You and your agenda to sneak in second half show material into the front of the show is getting transparent. I'm telling you, there's earthquake machines and they're using them and I'm done on the topic. No need to go into it any further. Look at the research for yourself. It's in the show notes at noagendashow.com.

43:27 Alright, so far I'm doing good. I've got earthquake machines. You're doing well. No, I'm doing good. You're doing well. I'm just doing good. You're doing well. Alright kid, I'm doing well. So I got a piece of news that just kind of got... This is just a stand-alone piece, ready? Yeah. I got a lot of stuff from the BBC. I actually got two pieces on the BBC that are stand-alone. There's no real story other than what? The first one is... Well, let's start with this one. So, you know, they gave the Peace Prize, the Nobel Peace Prize, went to the guy that's locked up in China. And so it's caused a big stink with China. This was the same Peace Prize that our peace president Obama received last year. Yes, and that's where the BBC's chiding Obama. Listen to this clip. This is just the beginning of their discussion on the BBC. And this is, I think, BBC World.

44:26 not BBC America I'm not sure what it's beside the point it's the same clip they use it on both shows but they just listen to the little jab they throw in as they as they begin the package. So is you a global hero or a common criminal? The answer of course depends on who you ask. Our coverage begins with the BBC's John Simpson in Norway. The Nobel Peace Prize has often been a majestic celebration of human rights. Sometimes, like last year's award to Barack Obama, it's been an embarrassment.

45:04 What it's got nothing to do with this story. They just threw it in well. That's part of the agenda It's an embarrassment embarrassment. It was Barack and by it's not Barack by the way It's Barak is Barak is Barak Obama was an embarrassment to Barak an embarrassing moment Wow why did the Brits continue to say Barack Obama because they're idiots whoa Let me just make sure who donated from Gitmo Nation? No one. No one? You sure? Not a single person? We get very few contributions to the no agenda show, whatever they call it. No agenda. No agenda.

45:46 a show from the states. Hey, but the slaves were uprising in Guilmont-Montgomery. Yes, we're going to talk about that shortly. But you don't want to do that now? No, I want to get this last stand alone out of the way because it's so stupid. This is one, and I'm only going to run this because I think it's something that we have to start thinking about what's going on. It's crazy. Play the German soldiers in France clip. The French government has welcomed the first German soldiers to be stationed in the country in peacetime. The battalion was officially installed on Friday just outside Strasbourg. France has kept soldiers on German territory since the Second World War, but only now is this reciprocal, as Paris and Berlin increase their military operation. What?

45:04 What it's got nothing to do with this story. They just threw it in well. That's part of the agenda It's an embarrassment embarrassment. It was Barack and by it's not Barack by the way It's Barak is Barak is Barak Obama was an embarrassment to Barak an embarrassing moment Wow why did the Brits continue to say Barack Obama because they're idiots whoa Let me just make sure who donated from Gitmo Nation? No one. No one? You sure? Not a single person? We get very few contributions to the no agenda show, whatever they call it. No agenda. No agenda.

45:46 a show from the states. Hey, but the slaves were uprising in Guilmont-Montgomery. Yes, we're going to talk about that shortly. But you don't want to do that now? No, I want to get this last stand alone out of the way because it's so stupid. This is one, and I'm only going to run this because I think it's something that we have to start thinking about what's going on. It's crazy. Play the German soldiers in France clip. The French government has welcomed the first German soldiers to be stationed in the country in peacetime. The battalion was officially installed on Friday just outside Strasbourg. France has kept soldiers on German territory since the Second World War, but only now is this reciprocal, as Paris and Berlin increase their military operation. What?

46:29 And the way they make it sound as though, well, the French have had the soldiers in Germany. Yeah, because they lost the war. There's no reason in the world that there should be any German soldiers. And what are they doing there? What is the point? What is the point of German soldiers in France? Can somebody in France explain this to me? By the way, the first world war, the Germans flattened the north north of France. It was like a pancake. They flattened it. Yeah, no they did. And Strasbourg is one of the areas in the, what used to be part of Germany or the Austria... Disputed area. It's a disputed area. Which is now French and by the way in the Alsace area, if anybody wants to take some wine touring around the world.

47:11 Yeah. Alsace is gorgeous. But anyway, let's get back. So why do they have these German soldiers in what was once a German part of the world? They are for your protection. In France. For your freedom. What's the deal? They are for your freedom. We are here for your freedom. What did the French put up with this? What do they want German soldiers on their soil for? What are they going to do there? Police? Are they going to pick up litter? I mean, what are they doing there? Picking up litter. That's correct. Okay, you could pick this litter up. I don't know, man. I don't know what they're doing. It's funny. Anyway, so I'm keeping an eye on it. Yeah, I think it's very thinking right you rightly you should It's just a throwaway to it's like, oh, you know, I got some German soldiers here, huh? That must freak some people that must freak some people out. Do they still have the same helmets like those with a big point on the top that one?

48:01 No, not the Wilhelm helmets. Like the SS helmets. Oh, the ones that got all the big skirt on it? Yeah, the kind that guys on Harley still will wear from time to time. Yeah, right. The Nazi helmets. Yeah, do they still have those helmets or have they upgraded? No, I don't think so. I think they still use those. Wow. That must be weird for some people to go like, oh shit, I got a flashback. What the hell are these guys doing here? Hey, Pierre! Pierre! What is this? They're probably not wearing the helmets. I'm sure they're wearing berets like everybody else does. All right, let's talk about these kids. These kids and get my nation eating. So if I understand correctly,

48:42 the what happened is they're writing for people that Americans don't even know that we get like short short no one knows this and I was like wow this is amazing huge riot this is a big-ass deal this is big and it's and it's young slaves too it's 13 and 15 you know 14 15 year olds who basically you know of course it's what's happening everywhere is now happening in Gitmo nation east is the the government is saying well you You know, everyone got rich on this banking scheme and, you know, we need to take some more so hey, hey, hey, you slaves, you're gonna pay for it. And you're... What? Play the Riots in London part one so we can get a little BBC feeling for what's going on because it's not being covered here. It is completely not being covered. ...introversial plan to triple university tuition fees. Now, triple?

49:34 from like three thousand pounds to nine thousand pounds. So unless you want to be working in a coal mine, which by the way I think they're opening those up again. And by the way, the thing is that what's happened over the last twenty or thirty years is that they have privatized student loan systems. Same as here. Same as here. Same as here and they put the screws to you. You have to start paying interest immediately. Not when I was a kid. I'd get a student loan, I'd just pay it back. Or you could just get out of it. Yeah, you can get out of it. Now even if you go bankrupt, which you probably will do, you can't get out of these loans because they're exempt from the bankruptcy laws thanks to corrupt government officials that are working in Congress and the bankers. The bankers have everything to do with this. So they just see how far they can go with it. So they decided, because the idiots in England apparently won't get out of their own way or complain, they figured they could just put the screws to them. But whoa!

50:31 Yeah, so, so, you know, and this has been brewing. I lived there for five years. There's so much dissatisfaction and unhappiness that I think what happened is finally everyone looked up from their beer and went, what? Oh no you didn't. Democracy is not meant to work like this. Tonight, protesters broke into the Treasury Building on Whitehall. Wait a minute, this is exactly the way democracy is supposed to work. When you're screwing the people, they rise up. This is exactly what it's supposed to do. I thought that meme too, I thought it was depressing. Wow, unbelievable. Not supposed to work like that. You're supposed to do as you're told. You should not have an agenda. Protesters broke into the Treasury Building on Whitehall.

51:44 They chanted, we want our money back. They smashed windows, they injured police. They were there in their hundreds to protect the Commons as MPs voted on tuition fees just yards down the road. The ayes to the right, 323. The noes to the left, 302. Three quarters of the government's majority had been wiped out. Shame, Labour MPs cried. But it was too late. That vote scraps the current cap on tuition fees of just over £3,000 and from 2012 fees will rocket to at least £6,000 and perhaps as high as £9,000 a year. That decision, today's vote, was accompanied once again by the invasion of Westminster by thousands laying siege to Parliament.

52:37 Many peaceful, many not. All this ostensibly provoked by plans to raise the price of a university education. Secretary Vince Cable. Insider Pat Commons, Vince Cable insisted he'd not cut student numbers or grants or the overall budget for universities. You know what I think this is happening John? It just kind of hit me. Yeah. They need the human resources. They need the human resources to be doing something and of course it's so hard to get a gig in the United Kingdom that most people stay in school as long as they can.

53:16 Right, and they're just well, I don't think your theory is correct because I did to want riots especially in I don't think they expected the riots. I think they're like, oh shoot. Wait a minute. What's up with this? If the kids are like completely doped up and drunk and and whacked out on Green Santa I don't think they were expecting it. I think this was really unexpected. I'm absolutely convinced they're not expecting it. And by the way, I want to just to push away a few letters. I don't want to start getting mail from some of our listeners with the following meme. Oh, you know, why should the government be paying for an education for the kids? They should pay for their own way. And what, you know, this kind of thing, which is bogus if there ever was, because the fact of the matter is the society relies on an educated population, even though we don't even got one anymore.

54:05 But, so I just don't want to hear that. But the second, you're going to have to play the rest of that clip because it's too long, but the second one, which is the BBC report, Riots in London, BBC report, actually goes into an analysis with one of the guys who was witnessing the whole thing. And it's actually a little more interesting because he brings up the Kettling thing, which is what seems to have been bypassed because this is what they started with the G20 riots this kettling where you basically surround people and force them into one area from both ends and then right you surround them you just like a it's like a military operation you surround them with police and so if they they're going in one direction and then the police are there so they start they head in another direction but they can't because the cops are there too and so they decided to retreat and go around but they can't because the cops are behind them

54:49 and then they just hold them in that area throughout the event and then they let him go later and that's why it's interesting to listen to the 15-year-old who came on because he talked about the kettling thing and then it's interesting to listen to this report because apparently the kettling has been bypassed and that's the reason that Prince Charles was attacked because all these people were roaming around aimlessly and then they saw him and went after him. He wasn't anywhere near the place and they apparently they were freaked by this and I'm sure they should be. I have a different opinion on the George, the George. on the charles or camilla thing but that will this explain how these riots released i mean who was the instigated do they have any analysis in this bbc report on that now they're just a lot of notice it's hard to say that they don't get to that i mean i can say there's a person could've been at fifteen-year-old kid you have the clip of but just play this to get a little bit of guys like it people feeling for what's going on the next parliamentary violence destruction

55:45 Incredible. And just after he filed that report, I spoke to Nick from Westminster. Nick, seen from the other side of the Atlantic, those scenes in London today are really just unbelievable, quite extraordinary. Are they reflective of a general disquiet in Britain or is it specific to this one issue of the votes for student fees? So far, it's specific to that, so- Oh my god! What a lie! That's unbelievable! Well, he gets out of it. Oh, okay. ...extraordinary to many, many people in the United Kingdom, and yet this is now the third time that the streets of London have lit up to demonstrations. Demonstrations that are still relatively small, but it seems that the police are quite incapable of controlling, no matter how many people they have.

56:33 As I left here, at the heart of the British Parliament and went onto the streets, there were dozens of police vans, hundreds of police in riot gear, but they couldn't stop those protesters attacking and breaking into the Treasury Building a few hundred yards away up Whitehall, the key street in Westminster, and of course they couldn't stop that attack. on the car of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles and his wife Camilla. That car travelling right into the middle of the rioters, I mean, what, I have to ask, what were the security forces thinking letting the heir to the throne get so close to that kind of violence?

57:09 Well the truth is he wasn't that close to here in Westminster, he was elsewhere in London's West End. But everyone was aware that he was going there, he was going to a Royal Variety performance in London's West End. And what happened is those protests, those riots, across London. In the previous confrontations we've had between police and protesters, the police have adopted the tactic of so-called kettling. In other words, literally corralling protesters in, locking them in for many hours between lines of policemen. This time, knowing that was the case, they spread out attacking shops in Oxford Street, the main high street in London, and also, as we discovered, reaching the place where the heir to the throne was due to attend.

57:52 Describe what happened there Nick, because I saw one picture which did show him and his wife Camilla looking very shocked by it. They look shocked because they were attacked in their official, their state car, paint was thrown at the car and one of the windows was smashed, not so that the glass went through but so it was damaged. Now this really will seem extraordinary to people because of course we know that the heir to the throne, let alone politicians like the Prime Minister, are heavily protected, they're surrounded by police on motorcycles, outriders of course, to protect them from attacks, assassination or indeed from terrorism and yet somehow they were not protected from this attack. Okay Nick Robinson there. You know I'm gonna call BS on that. I saw the video of the so-called attack on Prince Charles's car. First of all why is he driving around in an unprotected Bentley?

58:45 It's not bulletproof. His windows were rolled down. You can see on the video his window was rolled down. He's like waving to the people. I don't think it was all that... It's not the video I saw. What video did you see? I saw one of the student videos and it was just, you know, people were... I got a student video too. Well yeah, and I didn't see that the windows were rolled down. Yeah, it's cracked. It's like, it's like, I don't know, about eight-inch not a day about six and i'm not i don't know i'm not going to buy that that that was a the whole i mean it could be but what what what would be the point of it i don't see where what the end game is if you were gonna fake a uh... attack on this car well i think that's very simple the endgame is total clampdown they're almost there

59:31 It's almost there. Total clampdown on the slaves. I think the observation that the police can't do anything and I think there's some sympathy support by the police because they're getting screwed in this deal too and they have kids. I don't think that this clampdown is going to work if that's the case. They're already, well at the end of the day if all the people rise up, no. Then no clampdown works which is where of course it has to go which is where we have to go everywhere and get monation. Because... Wait, you have the kids clip because I think the kid that was one of the, I don't know, say he was an instigator but he came before a group of people and gave this speech that I thought for a 15 year old was ludicrously advanced. Yes. Which of course makes you wonder, you know, who wrote this thing. But it's possible I suppose, although I've never run into a 15 year old that could go off like this. I have to say when I heard this kid speak I'm like, that's kind of like John's kids. Well, I might be in detention a week and the school might not be very happy but

1:00:37 Right there, I'm already like, what? Who is the post ideological generation? This would be something one of these kids would say because they have their own lingo and they have their own, and they're very introspective about, you were talking about this generation that's coming up. They're very introspective and self-assured and they have a certain kind of a weird ego and they believe that, and you get the feeling that at some point they're not going to put up with the status quo by any means.

1:01:20 but they want to be left alone. That's for sure. I never thought of anything bigger than our Facebook profiles and our TV screens. This was meant to be the generation where the only thing that Saturday night meant was X Factor. I think now that claim is quite ridiculous. I think now that claim is quite preposterous. I think now we've shown, now we've shown that we are as ideological as ever before. Now we've shown that solidarity and comradeship and all those things that used to be associated with students are as relevant now as they've ever been. You know, the most incredible thing that happened on Wednesday, I went down, I thought I was going to go down and lunch break and then get back in time for lessons. Perhaps I should have known they'd put the guy in charge of the G20 in charge. Perhaps I should have been more concerned for my life than for whether I was going to get down for lessons. But when I tried to get out and I was told it was a sterile area by police officers standing and not letting anyone out, I thought, well, that's why we need a university education. If we don't get one, we end up in police uniforms.

1:02:20 That was a good line. Yeah it does. That's a really good line. You know, when I was kettled in there I was with thousands and thousands of school students who'd come down with their ties around their heads in their school uniforms and yeah they were cold. Who'd come down, who'd never been on a protest before, who'd never joined a political party or been involved in a political movement before, who didn't have any economic knowledge or political degrees but they were there because they believed in something. They were there because they believed in something bigger and they were there because they knew that either, you know there weren't a million choices, there were two choices. Either they laid down and took whatever the government threw at them or they stood up and fought back. And so those school students who'd never been involved in anything before stood up and they fought back.

1:03:07 And when they were in that kettle, being kettled in by police, you know the word went round as we were sitting huddling around fires sharing out what little food we had and the word went round people said, we know what they're up to. We know that they don't think we're a danger to the public. I'm 15 years old, people there were as young as 13, we know they don't think we're going to run riot through the streets of London. We know what they're up to. They think that if they kettle us now, we're not going to come on a demonstration ever again. Well let the word go out from today, people said. Let the word go out about next Tuesday. Let the word go out about next week and next month and next year. That they can't stop us demonstrating. They can't stop us fighting back. And however much they try to imprison us in the streets of London, those are our streets and we will always be there to demonstrate. We will always be there to fight. People who had always thought that the police were just those people at the other end of the telephone line to help

1:03:56 uh... if there was a bad day people who would go to the media which is so it's a friendly newspaper that we had to give them that unbalanced picture of the facts people that are not last wednesday people that are not i think this kid is actually twenty seven and he's a midget It's unbelievable. I mean, this is a very, very good speech. And why is he the spokesperson all of a sudden? There's no background on this speech. He came up and decided, I guess he's one of these very erudite kids that can apparently describe the situation. But one of the things that he did bring up in this little talk was the fact that

1:04:32 The kids you know you get involved in something like this and you're there in it Taking part in some way shape or form and then you go home after this thing breaks up And then you watch the news reports which lie right right right that is an extremely value That's what he's talking about about the lessons right you get a lesson in in the whole how it works in how it works And it doesn't make it any better. That's for sure Well, is that the end of the guy? No, I mean there's another minute. Let's listen to the rest of it. Yeah, might as well listen to this. As they huddled round fires and then emerged from that kettle to see headlines like vandals on the evening standard that afternoon. People learnt a lot when a police van was left in the middle of the road so that the police could tow it away and show the whole public, look what vandals these people are. People learnt a lot.

1:05:26 So the message that goes out from last Wednesday is very clear. We are no longer that post-ideological generation. We are no longer that generation that doesn't care. We are no longer that generation that's prepared to sit back and take whatever they give us. We are now the generation at the heart of the fight back. We are now the generation that will stand with everyone who's fighting back. The most inspiring thing I think was that just after Wednesday, Hundreds of people joined a Facebook group, school students joined a Facebook group in solidarity with RMT members on strike. Those are people who previously thought, those are people who previously thought tube strikes were something annoying because they stopped them getting into school. Now they think they've got to link arms and fight back with everyone. So we want to show solidarity with everyone who's fighting back. We hope you'll show solidarity with us and send a strong message to this government that they can't throw their cuts at us. We're going to stand up and we're going to fight back. Alright, well hell yeah!

1:06:21 You know what? I'm liking that. Yeah. I'm really, really liking that. And this reminds me of the 70s. You know, you had that thin English guy with a shovel running down the street telling he's gonna chop Margaret Thatcher's head off. You know, this is good, except these kids need a little direction. They need to understand that it's actually the banking cartel that is screwing them and the government are just puppets. But it's good. This is a very, very good start. I'm very happy and I think that we should be ashamed here in Gitmo Nation West that we don't have this kind of movement, that we're not on the streets. We're still watching the frickin' Kardashians.

1:07:00 Right, well the bankers are getting billions of dollars in bailouts and they can't, they will give out no loans and all the rest of it. And again, they've snuck the, we had a little situation at the University of California where they're gonna double fees or add a couple of, you know, they're basically been jacking up I think 30% last year, they've been jacking up the tuitions at the University of California system. There was a small riot, it didn't go anywhere because essentially the University of California has turned into a school specifically for overseas students where you soak them for as much money as possible. It's basically a variation on the University of Phoenix.

1:07:39 uh... suck charge a lot of money bring everybody over from china did you get him here like indian chinese students all but i think over half the students are uh... uh... more fifty percent or either from china or india and from overseas and and and they don't you know they're just uh... just getting soaked so they could become aware they spend a billion dollars on uh... and i think i would be like the college of arts and crafts in san francisco exactly what it is and by the way real estate scheme you know you should do should a while while you're at it for have a have a fly around that area of uh... the the bay uh... in a private airplane did that there's nothing but asians i'm talking about east it like a chinese on the radio learning how to fly

1:08:24 Because they come for their education and their pilot's license. And they can't fly for shit, and they sure can't communicate for shit either. But it's laughable when you hear the skies, because it's so impossible to get your pilot's license in China. You can't. That's right. So they get it over here, and then there's a way to convert. But literally, you're on the radio like, And I'm looking at my instructor I was flying with, what the hell is that? And he said, I don't know man, just keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open. We've given up. So yeah, it's just soaking. These institutions are soaking them, they're taking up... Yeah, but then they're not doing the American public any good, we're not getting educated. No, because then they leave, they go right back home with their US education.

1:09:17 Anyway, the point is is that and you know the amount of you you can't get a critical mass of protests in this country anymore Because everything has been co-opted Very but you know we had already went through a series of these Issues and it's everybody on the other side on the bad side have learned all the tricks Right and then the bait major trick is what you said. It's the Kardashians They haven't got any I mean they have a by the way by the way Sunday nights. I'm sorry we now have We've got Kendra who is just awesome. Kendra with Hank, you know that Hank is the football player. Then we have Married to Rock which is the wives of rock stars. And then we have this new show John which you really must watch called Bride-o-plasty.

1:10:05 and Bridalplasty is an elimination based reality show where the winner not only gets the wedding of her dreams but full-on plastic surgery and as the show progresses they get little procedures that are on their list so you literally see you know they have to complete some kind of puzzle or quiz like you know answer what color is the White House and there's five contestants but there's only four syringes of Botox on the table I know this is bull. Is this right? No, no, no, it's called bridoplasty. And you look at this and it's like it's it dreams this stuff up. And it shows you everything that is wrong with the United States of America. And then you see these women like, oh, and they're holding on to the syringe shaking like, oh, I've been dreaming about this Botox injection. And of course, the chick who doesn't get it, you know.

1:10:52 It's always the one who actually wanted the breast job but she had like some cancer removed so her breasts were actually a little deformed. She's the one that gets voted off. The one who actually needs the fucking surgery. It's unbelievable. This is what we're watching. This is why we're being destroyed. We're being destroyed by... We're not in 1984. 1984 is what's happening in the United Kingdom. We're over here in the other book. Where's some other book? Play, uh, talking about reality shows? Yeah. Play Palin on Skinning One. Oh, please. You're hurting me now. Every time I help with dad, I learn something new. I learned something new skinning the animal today, a different way that he had learned from one of our fishing partners. I would never have known that had I not been out there today. So anyway, so she's skinned. So they go out and shoot a caribou and she's, and they, and then on TV, I'm like grimacing watching this.

1:11:46 You can play the second part which is that them actually skinning the animal on television as they show all the guts coming out. It was just like I couldn't you know I have nothing against this but it's like why do you have to show it? Excellent. I feel a lot better now. Well I'm always really happy when I do get an animal because usually my dad is by my side when I'm hunting and it's like see dad I did it I listened to what you said And I learned something and we accomplished it together. So that's a really nice feeling too I want you to take each leg like this about right there. Is this knife good? No, use this one. I'm not gonna gut this We're gonna quarter it and take him home so I don't gut him. You'll see as we take the quarters off This is educational John. This is actually quite good because the

1:12:37 Imagine, this is a skill that we still should have. They still have it in Alaska. Yeah, but you need it. And apparently it's like folklore too. You exchange like, oh no, that's not the way you should skin an elk. I got a better idea or a better technique. It's a caribou, not an elk. A caribou. Yeah, it was a caribou. Which by the way, there's plenty of caribou up there. Oh, it's like reindeer in Sweden and Finland. There's millions of them and they eat them. But think about how twisted society has become, really, John, when you think about it. That we cringe at the skinning of an animal which is being skinned for food. Which is a skill that you might actually need again one day. Yeah, we have no problem looking at Plastic surgery procedures and women actually fighting for plastic surgery procedures Does this not show you how no wonder we're crap here. It's bad

1:13:28 back back ass words all my lab says we're going to talk about that kind of deal deeper uh... think play the clip i have here which is there was a uh... uh... it's called winning and sharing uh... clip it did there was a special on uh... e s p n uh... no answers on h p l columbine marty it was i actually will end up watching it because it was a very interesting i didn't know this is the black the most influential football coach in the history of the american football And he had them quoting about, talking about winning and how the society, you know, in America in particular, because we kind of lose our direction when we don't. Just play this clip and I added a little kicker to it. Winning, well I think it's only natural that anyone would think that to win is important.

1:12:37 Imagine, this is a skill that we still should have. They still have it in Alaska. Yeah, but you need it. And apparently it's like folklore too. You exchange like, oh no, that's not the way you should skin an elk. I got a better idea or a better technique. It's a caribou, not an elk. A caribou. Yeah, it was a caribou. Which by the way, there's plenty of caribou up there. Oh, it's like reindeer in Sweden and Finland. There's millions of them and they eat them. But think about how twisted society has become, really, John, when you think about it. That we cringe at the skinning of an animal which is being skinned for food. Which is a skill that you might actually need again one day. Yeah, we have no problem looking at Plastic surgery procedures and women actually fighting for plastic surgery procedures Does this not show you how no wonder we're crap here. It's bad

1:13:28 back back ass words all my lab says we're going to talk about that kind of deal deeper uh... think play the clip i have here which is there was a uh... uh... it's called winning and sharing uh... clip it did there was a special on uh... e s p n uh... no answers on h p l columbine marty it was i actually will end up watching it because it was a very interesting i didn't know this is the black the most influential football coach in the history of the american football And he had them quoting about, talking about winning and how the society, you know, in America in particular, because we kind of lose our direction when we don't. Just play this clip and I added a little kicker to it. Winning, well I think it's only natural that anyone would think that to win is important.

1:14:19 That's the reason you're in this business. If you have any kind of pride or any kind of dedication or any kind of backbone or spunk to you, you should try to be the best in your own profession regardless of what it is. Anybody who has the idea that just to play or just to take part and that's all that's necessary, I think he's in the wrong business. I think he's in the wrong country. Let me put it that way. I think one of the things that made America great is to try to be the best in everything that they do. And the best, again, is signified by winning. Oh, there's no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot! Now everyone hug and share a secret! Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we've turned everyone into pussies here. Yeah, that's exactly right. I just love that clip. Yeah. Now let's all hold hands and tell each other a secret. Yeah.

1:15:12 Anyway, I'm very proud of the young human resources of Gitmo Nation East. Those of you who are there, you have to teach your young that it's not just about the school thing. Have them look at every single street corner, how they're being observed. Look at the complete police state that they're living in, how they're being searched at random anywhere they go. Have them look at that and please get ready for 2012. I have a link in the show notes to a magazine and it's published in the United Kingdom. It's called Counter Terror Business.

1:15:48 and volume 4 is out for 2010 this is complete police state porn and it's a PDF and it's a pretty big file actually and when you see the stuff that they've got you know the fencing and the portable x-ray machines it blows your mind when you see and this is not for government this is for business this is just what's going to be normal It's out of control, so please have a look at this and see where your kids are headed and tell them to fight against that too. Who knows? Maybe there's some Guy Fawkes left in everybody yet. It would be great and I hope it catches fire everywhere. And I'm convinced, the older I get and the more I see, that the only way out of this is we have to riot. We have to. I don't think there's any other way. It's worked in the past, I think, a couple of places.

1:16:46 Maybe I like the fact that they were yelling off with their heads, too Yeah, I love the off with their heads thing and the other one give us our money back was another one I like offer their heads better because that's actually a French term from the French Revolution, is it not? Yeah, as far as I know. Off with their heads! Or actually, it was from the Alice in Wonderland story. Is there a difference? And I'll say it right here, the elitist, the Queen of the Netherlands, the Queen of United Kingdom of Gitmo Nation East, that's where your problem is right there. These are not just ceremonial people, these are evil people. These are the ones you have to go after. I'm just waiting for the knock at the door.

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1:18:48 I'm sending you, you know, brown shirts, three letters, I don't know. I'm sending you guys both an early gift of double nickels on the dime. You guys helped during the long days. Also wanted to point out that you withheld a happy Kwanzaa. From the holiday greetings in the last newsletter which by the way everyone should have read by now. It's got the TSA This is a good point John. I did Lee. I did leave out Kwanzaa We made such a such a stink about it on the show I didn't even notice that you left it out of the out of the talking points memo Not good. My it was the letter to the talking. I'm in salt is UPS by the way the brown the brown trucks. Oh

1:19:23 Oh, the Brown Machine, right. Thank you, chat room. Now, the second one I got from Andrew Glenn, a newcomer, Andy Glenn from Buckham, UK. This is the one guy that we don't have. I'm sorry? You said we have no support from Gitmo Nation East and here he is. Here's the guy. Yeah, but his name is Andrew Glenn. He's a good guy. at the beginning on this on my spreadsheet for some reason and i don't know why it is that matter if you can see it i don't have the first two lines of his note uh... john and i have a listing for a while from get more nation east and thought it time i contributed especially as a turn as as my birthday on monday please deduce me you've been t do you wish to i'd love in the lovely and then the yeah i live in the lovely children hills just north of london

1:20:18 Officially an area of outstanding natural beauty, but which is scheduled soon to be desecrated by a 100-yard wide scar called High Speed 2. This new rail promises to cut 30 minutes off the 110-mile journey from London to Birmingham. And given that our only current high-speed line, the Eurostar to Paris, requires a minimum of 30-minute check-in, including airport-type security scanning, which is true now, Our existing regular trains don't require that. That equates to a whole zero time saved. There you go. That's actually amazing because most of these high-speed schemes, there's no time saved. It actually costs you time. Yeah. But, uh...

1:21:01 And I bet you when the calculation is finally done it won't be zero, it will be a minus. I especially enjoy your coverage of the mysterious workings of the EU Starfleet Command which receive hardly any space in the media here at all. A cause of out of sight, out of mind perhaps, or maybe it's judges being unimportant that much of our lawmaking is guided by an unelected elite to keep up the good work. That's $100 from Andy Glenn. Now I want to mention that we do, there's an article that ran in the Daily Mail. Did you see that thing that showed all of EU laws being implemented in the UK and nobody even knows about? No, but I'm sure it's there.

1:21:45 Anyway, and then we have a $99.99 call out which you have a special letter about because apparently Baron von Pelsmacher has decided to do a retrospective on a call out that was from World War II. Yeah, this is like a... It's airman porn. Okay, so it's a niner niner niner niner from Baron van Pelsmacher's. Here's the handover over and over over Dover over. It's it's like airman porn. Actually if you're if you're handing over the Andover over Dover that would be to Manston.

1:22:24 uh... manson is right over dover and manson is the big crash pad if if you're ever flying to uh... united kingdom and your plane has no work here if you keep or if you're going to crash are you gonna crash at manston as a high-end their televised hey that they have the largest runway uh... and the broadest runway in uh... in the united kingdom and it's and it's right on the cliffs of dover and is put there in fact the world war two so the guys who come became limping back Yeah, with like their planes all shot up. They basically crashed there. It's like one big skid crash track. It's huge. It's absolutely huge. You can crash a 747 there and probably make it out alive.

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1:24:07 You know about this. Well. There's a dust bowl of 1932 maybe no I thought it was 1830 no no it's a 1932 dust bowl, but that was okay the 19 with 1813 whatever yeah, what is it me? But that was the like it was like like now right? It's like all of a sudden there was so they didn't call it global warming They just called it really dry And they had like no water in the planes. No water. And it's a cycle, it's like a ten year cycle and it comes back and we're heading into it again, coincidentally. Except now it's called global warming. Patrick Gardner, Davidsonville, Maryland, $63. Hey John and Adam, my girlfriend got me into the show about a year ago and now I'm hooked! Looking for some karma for my LSAT. Keep up the good work. Oh, we got a little bit of that for you. No problem. Happy to do it. You've got karma.

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1:27:12 Oh, there's a lot of people who misunderstand the show. It's a very easy show to misunderstand. I'm misunderstood! Ready? So here's an idea. This came in from our old pal Luke Vanderhelm. Oh, uh, Luke Wunderhelm. Yes, and he says forget and we're gonna do this I'm gonna put it on the website tonight and it's gonna be available at the Vark org slash and a when you contribute you can do this and I just told him look just the whole idea was good we do it full cloth in other words exactly what he says here says forget center cloths forget Christmas in the new year how about a no agenda New Year promotion which we do need by the way yeah 111

1:27:53 1111, two of them, there's two of them coming up in the same month, 1111 and 1111. The year's full of possibilities. So we can do with that, buck 11 or 20.11 a month euros, $111.11 or 2011, 2011 for rich bastards like well he's not rich but anyway you get a governorship of Gitmo Nation or for instance anyways we have there's a deal here we're gonna work it out. It's all numerology we love the numbers. We love the numerology so people get off on it. Now here's the deal

1:28:34 I've thought about this and we'll discuss this, Adam and I will discuss this off-channel. Oh, we're gonna have a meeting! We're gonna have a meeting, we have 20 years, this will be our 2011 meeting. I'm excited, this will be the meeting. We are going to sell baronies. Wow, John you have not discussed it, where was the meeting when we decided to talk about this in the meeting? Well you can veto it if you want to but I think that we can divide up the world into actual districts. Yeah so when the whole place falls apart people have some paperwork and they can say I'm Baron Van Pelsmacher of Antwerp. I own Belgium. And here's proof and I have a coin. And I think we should they should have a hat.

1:29:23 Well, we might get him a hat too. Whatever the case is, we're gonna figure out what it's gonna... I think it's a couple thousand bucks you can get a bearing, I don't know why. But this is... We're giving him Belgium, he can have the whole place. That's right. And he gets... the will loon part and he gets the flanders part he can actually he can figure out the war between the those twenty divided up the munchies he can subdivide he had a granddaughter she can take part of it whatever the case is we figure most countries like england i think we could probably get at this about forty berenice in there maybe united states of course we have uh... Probably two or three per state. These things can't be cheap John This has got to be like this is serious business if we're actually dividing up the world and this will be an official piece of paper Yeah It's not the world's Gitmo nation is what we're caught and we and actually so if someone gets a bear a barony of Ireland it will actually say baron of Gitmo nation leprechaun and

1:30:19 Right? That's cool, man. Well, we could do that. I think it's cool. And then we have to have some longitudes and latitudes put on it so they know what part they have. I think Ireland is at least two baronies. So we'll have a meeting about this. It's a good idea. Alright. So anyway, go to Dvorak.org slash NA or ChannelDvorak.com slash NA in the meantime and help us out for the next show and don't forget to show 261 if you want to be a member of this exclusive 261 club you can donate that much and you will be. So seeing as he was just kind of on the list, I will say happy birthday in advance to Wayne Hyman and everyone else who turns 55 from the year 1955. And we have a birthday Andy Glenn. He celebrated his, actually he celebrates his birthday today on the 12th of December 2010. Happy birthday everybody. And we might as well rock this out immediately John.

1:31:21 Let's get our swords out there. You got it? Wait, there it is. Yeah, ugh. All right, Baron Van Pelsmacher's, Baron of Gitmo Nation Sprouts. We still gotta work on that one. Has successfully completed payments for Damehood for his godchild, Ruby. So Ruby, we now welcome you as Dame. of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please enjoy your Gerbers and Pampers. How old is this godchild, Ruby? Uh, not very. That's cool, man. So we have a dame. Dame Ruby. You know, it's just the way it goes with these, uh, with this sort of, uh, monarchy. So it's, and you know what? There's nothing wrong with us making our new monarchy. Congratulations. I don't see it as any problem, personally. No, not at all. I think it's a great idea.

1:32:17 Okay, I got just a couple things that I got to get off my chest John first Following the biodiversity so you don't have to the talks in Cancun Mexico wrapped up This was COP 16. Of course we had huge attention for COP 15 in Copenhagen and everyone was all over it and what's going on with what are we going to do with global... of course we had climate gate exploding at the time of that and I'm very happy to report that the Cancun talks ended as if nothing had changed, as if

1:32:54 time to do it is a lot of guys through it and i don't know now uh... so i have linked to the uh... agreement because they they the way it works of course this is all part of the united nations and then the other i pcc is a party nine nations that the uh... the the lying bastards about the so-called science being in on everything uh... So, they essentially, the way it works is, you know, they move it ahead every single year. So the next one's going to be in South Africa, another place where we can't check on anyone. Junket! Yeah, it's another junket. But every single time they move the agenda a little bit further. And so what I was looking for specifically

1:33:42 Was the geoengineering stuff because you know we know that last week The word came out look if we can't if we can't really get anything going Then we have to go to plan B. Which is geoengineering I've read through the COP 16 agreement now this is the advanced unedited version it's the outcome of the work of the ad hoc working group on long-term cooperative action under the convention uh... this is about thirty pages mind-boggling it is unreadable and They could be saying stuff in here They could be saying that that I have to cut off my testicles and hand it to him And I wouldn't be able to read the language. It is so complicated hmm I do know that what I see is the the red r-e-d-d. This is the What's the What does the acronym stand for let me look it up here?

1:34:43 R.E.D.D. is the reducing emissions from deforestation and degradation. Like the way that sounds? Basically that means we're taking your land slave, you there in a poor country, you don't know how to take care of your land, we're taking it from you. Now, everywhere in this document, carbon credits, trading of credits, it's like, it's like, it's like, it doesn't even exist. Derivatives of credits, not a problem, it's all in here. Now how is this being run? They are setting up something called the, let me just make sure I quote it properly, the Green Climate Fund, okay?

1:35:28 The Green Climate Fund will be funded with $100 billion a year. Wow! And they needed a trustee, because of course the trustee has to oversee this money and make sure it's spent wisely. A hundred billion dollars. Seems like you need more than one guy. Well, they found the perfect entity to oversee this as trustee for the next three years. Who would you choose, John, if you wanted the most trustworthy entity in the world to oversee the hundred billion dollars that the human resources of the world are going to put into the pot, apparently? Yeah. The World Bank.

1:36:11 Oh I thought it was gonna be Clinton. That would have been even better. No the World Bank. Oh we think the World Bank will be great. The World Bank will be great at doing that. So you know help me read through this. People got to go back and read the book again. You know Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Yeah yeah you really have to. It's it's a big joke. uh... luckily i couldn't really find any in but it i'll tell you something if you want to make money because we're not a hundred billion dollars going to it's going to research it's going to promotion of global warming uh... and climate change uh... agendas that's what this whole document is and that's when we heard on the previous show uh... miss headed guard

1:36:55 is talking about you know investors really want to know that this is long-term because everyone is going to be jumping on this hundred billion dollars. This is money in the bank. All you got to do is you got to suck the right penis and have the right proposal and you can get this money. It's just making money for elitist pricks. It has nothing to do with saving your earth. How do you really feel? Oh it angers me to read this. It angers me. And then the funniest thing I get this email from... let me see if I can find him. I get this email from Al. Says, I thought you'd like this. I was talking to my sister about Christmas stuff and my three-year-old niece says, hey why don't you just charge it? She hands me a pretend credit card and I'm putting this picture in the show notes.

1:37:49 The credit card, it looks just like a MasterCard. It's got a little expiration date on there. It's got a little, it doesn't have her name or anything. The card is from the World Bank. I said, I emailed Al Bax, dude, where did she get this? I need to know where she, this must have been a part of some game or something. I want to know where the kid got this from. It's amazing. Okay. Okay. Now one other thing and then I'll be done and then you can do whatever you want to do. I only got one other thing I want to discuss. Well okay I've got one which is everyone sending the most emailed story this week. Two to the head, two to the head for Martin Madoff. Let me tell you something people. This is not two to the head. Don't make me laugh. This is what happened.

1:38:36 So, and by the way, it's really in the story, if you read it. So Mark Madoff is a 46 year old who had nothing to lose. He's living it up. Everything's great. He's got a billion dollars offshore. He's got a new wife. He's got two young kids. Oh no, and now he has to hang himself with the dog leash. No, no, no, no. How creative. Let me tell you. The dog leash is symbolic by the way. Of course it is. By the way, who discovers him? Well his wife, who happens to be in their Florida pad with their other child, calls up her stepfather, who is an incredibly powerful lawyer. He goes, apparently he's got a key, he goes over to the Soho luxury loft, finds him,

1:39:21 And then the, and I love this story the way they report it. A police officer stood guard in the lobby of Madoff's 12-story luxury loft apartment in Soho Saturday morning. An official from the medical examiner's office arrived in a van Saturday morning. So here's how it works. Um, look there's all kinds of lawsuits being geared up against me and you know, I don't know what my old man is doing but I'm getting out, I'm checking out, I'm going to Paraguay. It's like I'm, I'm gonna pretend I'm dead. This is a complete fake suicide. The guy gets rolled out into the medical examiner's van. The guy's in Paraguay by now, living it up. Hookers and blow baby with all the money. This guy didn't commit suicide. Bullcrap. I'll give you that one.

1:40:08 I mean, if he is dead, which is, you know, we don't know of course one way or the other, he would have been executed by somebody who... I mean, he knows where the money is. Of course he does. Of course he knows where the money is. So he either... they were afraid he was going to talk, but if he's in a 12... First of all, let's back up to... Did it actually say 12 story high loft? Yes, which is Jon Bon Jovi's building by the way. But it literally says, so first of all when they... Wait a minute, wait a minute. Do you realize how valuable a 12 story loft in Manhattan? Yeah, duh. That has got to be, I mean I know people who live in lofts and there's a lot of people that, famous people live in lofts, but nobody has a 12 story one. Well I don't know if it's actually, if it's all his.

1:40:56 But the tip-offs are here. The tip-offs are that his wife, who was in Florida with their other young son, was concerned when he sent an email to her saying, oh you know, whatever. Yeah. And then she sends her stepfather, who is a very, he's a high profile, high high high up there lawyer to go and check on him at 730 in the morning like the guy's got a key step is that they're weird yeah yeah it's all I'm hung with a dog leash let me tell you that's not easy to hang yourself with a dog leash I don't think you know it's like there's no note and then I know here's the here's the kicker it seems to me who's gonna fake his own death

1:41:40 that he would leave a note. Well that's what the email is. The email is supposed to be like some form of note but it's so clear when you have a police officer standing guard. Why does a police officer have to stand guard? And why is it reported that way? Why? Because they don't want anybody seeing the body. And then an official from the medical examiners, and I looked at all the pictures, it's laughable, arrived in a van Saturday morning Why? A van. They literally, and you see the picture of a body bag. You don't know who's in there. It could be the guy. It could not be the guy. Could be his collection of porn. But they literally roll him into a van. It's not like an ambulance or anything. It's like a van. Koong-koong. Doors are closed and who knows where he's off to. I'm saying the guy faked his death.

1:42:28 Okay, I know I'm I you know it seems to me since the Madoff thing went down It's been a year or more hasn't it two years got plenty of time by the way two years to the day that his dad got arrested Oh, yeah, another little tip off. Okay. What you got two years you got you still got your money you you you're somehow off the hooks Who knows why whatever whoever you bribed you had to bribe your way to get that far? So you go down and you explore South America. Do we have any evidence that he's ever left the country or done anything? We don't know. We don't know anything because the reporters never covered this stuff. Well, the first thing I did is I started looking at flights leaving from Teterboro. It was very hard to see. I figured that's what I would do is I'd have myself shipped over to Teterboro and I'd fly out, maybe up who knows which way. There's a couple of flights that went to like Dominican Republic and

1:43:17 some of the once you get out of the country and do it must be where you want to fly to mexico and then go anywhere so for canada for that matter but anyway so you get out of the you get out you go to canada go to toronto you jump on a plane to uh... now you just i just want you watch his wife his second wife You watch, she's gonna be so distraught she's gonna move to, I don't know, South America. You watch... If she moves to South America then it's a done deal. You watch, keep your eye on her. Where's she going? I'm telling you this, I don't believe this for a second. Yeah, I'll take the... And his brother's probably pissed.

1:43:55 Son of a bitch we were supposed to do it next year. We were supposed to do it together. Jump the gun, bastard. I can't believe that shit, man. And he bets he gets cremated. It'll be cremated too, by the way. Right, of course cremation is the best. Quick cremation. They can always, they can still drop an empty casket in the ground, it doesn't make any difference. But whatever the case is, the, yeah, and you go, that's where you'd go, you go to Paraguay typically. Yeah, that's where you want to be. I think most of the countries down there don't have good extradition. I think you go to Venezuela, you can go to Argentina. Argentina's fun, but you'd probably be less likely to be, have somebody, some paparazzi will catch you in Argentina, nobody in Paraguay. You have paparazzi in Paraguay, they shoot you.

1:44:41 So, then I finally want to talk about Veronica Cohen. Do you know who Veronica Cohen is? I've heard of a Cohen. Veronica Cohen, real name of Ronnie Chasen. Oh yeah right. Veronica Cohen, Russian immigrant. Oh I didn't know that. Oh yes and there's a reason that I'm bringing that up. So she changed her name to Ronnie Chasen when she moved out to Hollyweird and became a PR publicist. uh... very well-known one uh... so of course we know that this is the the beverly hills police department is covering something up because the whole thing is so sketchy and so laughable you know that i mean we don't have to go through all the laughable parts of it but here's what i have been told by my insiders extra extra in your in the mail you i am the main the million and i've asked specifically some people to sniff around and i got a call two days ago and uh... what

1:45:41 I'm hearing is that this was a Russian mob hit and the reason was she put together a deal which my sources say had more to do with music than with film and they got screwed on the deal and they killed her as a message to the rest and this guy who didn't do the hit but who set it up he was so freaked out that he would rather kill himself than have these guys apparently kill him painfully and slowly. but that this is a music-based deal that the Russian mob got screwed on that she set up and they killed her to send a message and there's other people out there who still have to make good on this deal. Well there's a couple things that we should do as background. One, the Russian mob is huge in Southern California. Yeah, big time. In fact there's a couple of small towns I believe in the valley that are literally owned by the Russian mob.

1:46:31 I can't remember that, I saw a 60 Minutes special on one of them once and this is like basically it's a town that is just, it's all Russians, all mobbed. Oh yeah. And that's Southern California, so there's a lot of this. And the Russian mob is notorious for torturing people, like the guy who they obviously killed himself. uh... all that but they're also be the of the type that if somebody was involved in know something they kill him make it look like a suicide and then the third element i think is worth noting is the uh... the tipster i think if you track their who they're not going to tell you who that is came into america's most wanted you made some guy to some tipster told about the guy on the bicycle who killed himself supposedly after killing her for no apparent reason in the middle of beverly hills on a bicycle and picking up the shell casings

1:47:19 Uh, well it could have been a revolver but typically those guys don't use revolvers. They use 9mm and supposedly it's a 9mm and there's no revolver like that. No. So, you know, so the shell casings are an issue it seems to me but now they're saying, well it was a revolver. Well, maybe. Whatever. So anyway, the point is that this is sketchy, it makes a lot of sense that it could be a mobbed up deal. Now that I know she's Russian, that changes things. I didn't know that. And then what's just kind of funny because this all gets, this all, this whole, the whole interest that John and I have in this. And by the way, wait, wait, stop. One more thing just came to mind. The mob always has, by anybody that's mobbed up on any way, there's always, they love puns, which is some people consider the highest and some people considers the lowest form of humor. I mean, we had a mob guy, witness protection program out here started a company called White Front.

1:48:13 It was a huge retail operation. I still think Target is, he's got, makes me wonder. But her name, Ronnie Chasen, I'm Chasen. Yeah, it's funny. Classic. Yeah, it is all classic. All right. But I really first got interested in this when people started laughing at Randy Quaid who was literally saying Russian mob. He started this, he said Russian mob, it's all messed up, they're out there, they're taking people's money, they're killing people and of course if you look at Xtra Xtra or Entertainment Tonight or E or whatever, we say idiots, they're total idiots. But when you look at the business of making money off of dead people, George Lucas now is putting dead actors back into movies. I got a whole story on him that's in the show notes.

1:48:59 And of course, we really gotta get in on the act. Who is now jumping in? Dog the Bounty Hunter is now going after the Quades. He's tweeting about it. Like I'm gonna come and get you Randy Quaid. You can't run from me Randy Quaid. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. It's so dog eat dog this whole business. That business is bad. If the Russians aren't out to kill ya, then dog the bounty hunter is gonna come and get ya in Canada. i think the canadians have a very rigid lot dot dot the bounty hunter i believe from not mistaken could wind up with a long prison sentence if he thinks he's going in the canada pool that crap only had to the canadians on this around they will totally throw you in jail what's interested that's just one little thing that i want people look at uh... some look at dog the bounty hunters tweets and i see that he has this background on his twitter page for something called so act dot net

1:49:58 and I'm like, what is soact.net? And it's this social network that is bulletin board listed over the counter, OTCBB, and it's some guy and he's got like, he's got like, you know, Andy Rooney, he's got, well of course he's got Bill Shatner, and all these people have joined up to this network which I, you know, and it's some kind of like, you know, sketchy public company I don't know. It's weird. It's something really weird Danny Glover You all and they're all saying like oh this so act as a social network where people get together and make a difference And it's scary so act dotnet you should take a look at I put a little in the show knows I couldn't quite understand what it was This guy is like some he's like a midget who walks around taking he's like one of these freaky people who takes pictures with celebrities and

1:50:53 Literally, he's a midget because you can tell he's standing next to people. He's coming up to their belly button and nothing against midgets I was married to one But it's it's just like it's freaky really really freaky He's got all these people on his website, and I don't know and dog the bounty hunter is promoting it so I you know I don't know maybe that's the the secret club maybe there may be a clue within this could be I don't know it just I'm looking at this so at website is just Mickey Mouse bill I'm right but it's but it's he's got public email you know I know 1997 I know but it's kind of scary right well scary it is just weird okay I'm tired now what do you got I got I had nothing I was just gonna go on and on about the Madoff thing but you just gonna go on and on and on about the Madoff thing forever

1:51:45 I guess Do you have an update on wiki leaks? Well, I mean this is it's not so tiring that everyone is talking about it Everywhere on every single station across get Monet. Are they yeah. Yeah, it's they're still talking about it now is like oh Now it's funny because now everyone is saying oh, you know there's got to be CIA I'm like does everyone listen to this show and not donate well You know I had you know I'm now thinking that my current thing is and maybe it's not CIA Because there's too many CIA memes cropping up

1:52:22 Everyone's pointing the finger at the CIA because the CIA in fact my even my son JC sent a note about you know that the one oh it turns out that one of the WikiLeaks mirrors is a honeypot for the CIA. I got that from a ton of people as well. And you know now people and then I ran into two or three analysis pieces that went on with basically our analysis about the CIA's possible involvement and how it would benefit them. And you know, we have our theory based on the fact that they're out to get Hillary or they're out to get Obama or there's a fight going on or whatever. So now I'm thinking well maybe it's not the CIA, maybe it's a disinformation channel set up by somebody else to make it look like the CIA but there's obviously an intelligence agency involved or we wouldn't get the kind of coverage we're getting, we wouldn't get the kind of disinformation we're getting, we wouldn't get the look over here thing happening every which way about the WikiLeaks, look over here, look over there.

1:53:16 So I don't know, I'm wondering whether or not this could be a different intelligence agency or even NSA for all you know. I think it's purely the Ministry of Defense. I think it's 100% Pentagon. They are not the CIA. I think they have every reason to mess with the CIA if they can. I think that all the money points towards the Pentagon and the military-industrial complex. This will be used. I mean they have the cyber command center. Why have they not attacked Wikileaks? Because it's much better to let all kinds of crazy stuff happen and then say okay now we got to ramp it up. Now we got to go in and we got to shut down the internet. We got to shut this down, shut that down and they can just build up all of these. It's a money game.

1:54:04 I think I was always about money we always have to do one thing is always overlooked when we start analyzing always money and when people start looking at things they always forget the money yeah because it's always about money So my thinking with the WikiLeaks thing is we have to start seeing who benefits money-wise. I mean there's money in power too, but generally speaking the way it's been going of late, it's only money because the power can come and go. So who's gonna make out on this deal in terms of... The security industry. Yeah, well they're definitely going to. The scanners and all the rest of these jokers.

1:54:41 So, I have, you know, I'm now looking at it from only, I'm only looking at the WikiLeaks things from a meta perspective. The stories that are coming out are interesting, every once in a while, you'll run into a comment on one or two because they'll be too funny. There's gonna be a lot of humor, you know, a lot of crazy memos that'll be released and there's still gonna be people who's gonna be complaining. You get to see who's on what side of the freedom movement. If there is such a thing, I mean when you see, you know, you have Newt Gingrich, you know, calling for the guy's head and we should shut it down and people sitting there wringing their hands over God is going to ruin our relations with the world and all the rest of it when Gates himself doesn't even think so.

1:55:22 it's just that you know it's it's it's is allowing people to do you get at least nothing else really to see who side people are on regarding the whole thing right you know some people are on one side of the argument was some people on the other and this the people there on the other side the argument they're really the enemy yeah market down right right some of these names down for sure you'll need that later when we do the test uh... so uh... at the work just a couple of disturbing things we had uh... Gitmo Nation rancid meatballs. We had a terrorist attack complete fractal complete right down to an artist depicting Muhammad in a at all Even in whatever light Guy blows himself up. Of course. He only blows himself up It's like whoops He literally only blew himself up in Stockholm during a shut during shopping season and

1:56:22 uh... so congratulations i get my nation rancid meatballs by the way you were about to have your entire uh... constitution change to that of the e u well now you really got it completely set in uh... another fractal in fact uh... should be playing the uh... should plan to jingle you actually call that one john the uh... The Portugal fractal. Oh, yeah, you want to explain that one? Well, the Portugal fractal is the Which happened of course in Ireland and it I think it even I think it began I think the fractal began in Greece, which is the we got no problem We got no problem. We don't need your help. Yeah, we don't need that

1:57:04 What was it? The IMF. We don't want the IMF coming and taking over the place. And then of course, in one thing it leads to another and the next thing you know you're getting help whether you like it or not and the IMF is in there and there's a bunch of other intermediate steps in this fractal. But it appears that this is the one that Ireland just used. Now Portugal is using the exact same one and then Spain will be next with the same. We don't need any help. And it's just like, can't they come up with a different script? No, because I think if it works, it works. You know, it's like Shakespeare. And the public doesn't seem to notice. No, it's like... Nobody's there, it's like this exact same thing, step by step, people go, oh, okay. I mean, how dumb is everybody? Yeah, unfortunately.

1:57:48 So I have one little clip that we could play if you want to share something. I think it's just kind of, I don't know, I found it, it's nice that people are generous. General Mills cares enough that they give money or whatever, but there's something, I don't know, oddly, I don't know, I wouldn't say it was sick, it's just disconcerting that we have this program underway. Play the Hamburger Helper ad with program attached. Why don't you try a home-cooked meal with yummy Hamburger Helper? Fantastically tasty, huh? Mmm, that's good! What would you guys like? Hamburger Helper! What? One pound, one pan, one tasty meal! In America, one in six people struggle with not having enough food. That's why I've teamed up with Feeding America and Hamburger Helper. When you buy Hamburger Helper, you can help Feeding America deliver a meal to a local food bank. Visit this website to see how you can help.

1:58:45 Isn't Hamburger Helper a sawdust? I'm just saying. Hamburger Helper is a lot of, you know, whatever that, you know, wood, they have a wood ingredient. It isn't actually food, is it? It's a helper. No one understands. You have to explain Hamburger Helper to our listening public outside of Gitmo Nation proper. Hamburger Helper is usually like, it's essentially like, it's got pasta and all these other things mixed in and it's a way to stretch what little protein you might get so you take like a pound of burger and you fry it up and you mix in hamburger helper and you got you know five pounds of food. It's magic, we got five pounds of food now. You know it's sad but Soylent Green is someone in the chat room that's what it is.

1:59:33 Exactly what it is. It's people Have you ever seen that movie yet? No, I still haven't seen it. Oh you got it. No, I know I know I was like I'm going through the list of things to see there's a lot to do I Got a lot. Yeah, I'm watching too much C-SPAN. I'm sure it's on Netflix. Yeah I Anyway, 10 dead in Britain as H1N1 has returned. No? Really? How come, wait a minute, hold on a second, let me ask you a question here, a technical question. With every flu that comes and goes, they have a different shot and you get the shot that year and then the next year there's new flus because it recombines every year to make three new flu's.

2:00:14 and again dies off after the flu season's over, it's done. You don't get that flu again. How come this flu's sticking around? How come all the other flus come and go and come and go and come and go? How come this one flu doesn't come and go like the rest of them? You got me, John. You really got me. Let me see what they're saying. small proportion, 500 deaths, die, the children, you're screwed, take the shot, bend over slave. For most people flu is not life-threatening and usually lasts seven to ten days however it can be far more dangerous for those in at-risk groups such as elderly, pregnant, patients with heart problems, diabetes, lung, liver or

2:00:59 Renal diseases. What's a renal disease? Liver, kidney, liver, kidney. Kidney, death. The seasonal flu jab protects against the dominant strays. This year it protects against three types of flu, including the type known as swine flu. It's amazing, John. It is amazing! My understanding was they were going to make their seasonal flu shot, which always contains three types of flu that are guessed, by the way, they guess at what they're going to be. And then they added the H1N1 to that mix of three. Which would mean four. It doesn't matter we're all gonna die of cholera. But the point, the question I have to ask besides the fact that why didn't this flu go away like all the rest of them, the question number two is why did we hear at first of, at the beginning of the swine flu epidemic you needed two shots and you couldn't mix it with the other flu shot?

2:01:52 Now, you don't need two shots and it's mixed. It's mixed in. Are they giving us, they're giving us like, they're... It's hamburger helper. They need a talking points memo so they don't change their story constantly. It's the hamburger helper of flu shot. I'm telling you, it's amazing what they've got done for us. I'm quite happy. I feel that they are looking out for our best interest, John. Anyway, we did have our talking points about one out. Everybody was happy with it. We're going to do another one. I think the next one will be on high-speed rail. uh... these things are one page longer no longer and they just have pointed you can use it a cocktail party and you should get on the mailing list if you want to get him or you donate which is the way most people in most of them is a donors and uh... and you'll get these every say every time we've we can put one together but uh... we have uh... about two or three backed up

2:02:47 And I think that the trains one is really good because it's a tricky one as well because you don't want to be, I mean all of these are very very tricky that's why we have these talking points memos that we send out but it is a way that you can peaceably fight the elitist takeover of bullcrap in our world by changing people's views one person at a time. And this is, I'd say this is a very very hard one. It's a really tough one because everyone has been so indoctrinated so perfectly well about trains being great. Yeah I came up with a new one on this because I was talking to somebody the other day throwing what I thought the memo points would be and one of them is like

2:03:31 You know, we have to modernize our transportation system. How more modern can you be than flying in a jet? Yeah, at 500 miles an hour. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. as pretty much pretty much it's pretty much a time point anyway alright anyway uh... we'll continue to watch the span so you don't have to and uh... come up with all the dvd's from around get my nation uh... we appreciate the support go to the four dot org slash any or channeled for a dot com slash and of course our sites no agenda show dot com and click on the donation link is the only way we uh... pay the bills is through your support of the show

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