Episode 259 · Thursday, 9 December 2010

Lucy Napolitano in Yemen

A multimillion-dollar federal deal turns big-box retailers into surveillance hubs while global elites in Cancun pivot from carbon markets to large-scale geoengineering and population control.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 259

About this episode

The Department of Homeland Security has finalized a $13 million partnership with Walmart to broadcast surveillance announcements at checkout counters. Secretary Janet Napolitano and DHS officials are pivoting toward soft targets like shopping malls and sporting events, encouraging citizens to file Suspicious Activity Reports against their neighbors. This expansion of the See Something, Say Something campaign coincides with a massive PayPal outage that has disrupted independent media funding and sparked a debate over the government's ability to pressure private financial institutions.

WikiLeaks continues to dominate the news cycle as cables reveal Secretary of State Hillary Clinton directed agents to harvest biometric data and credit card numbers from foreign diplomats. In Cancun, the COP 16 climate summit has shifted focus toward geoengineering and population reduction as a Plan B for global warming. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton and Salesforce promote luxury hotel developments in post-earthquake Haiti while 1.3 million residents remain in slums. Domestically, the FBI faces scrutiny for entrapment stings involving Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born cleric who previously dined at the Pentagon shortly after the 9/11 attacks.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the suspicious timing of Anonymous DDoS attacks and the potential for new FCC internet regulations. The duo breaks down the Hollywood mystery surrounding the murder of publicist Ronnie Chasen and the rise of hedge funds bailing out distressed celebrities like Randy Quaid. Mimi Curry provides a tactical guide for opting out of TSA body scanners by questioning agents about the lack of dosimeters on the security line.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Introduction, PayPal Outage, and Human Resources

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 259 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. They acknowledge the "human resources" in the chatroom and listeners on ships at sea. A significant outage at PayPal is noted, which has impacted the show's donation flow.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· paypal· gitmo nation· human resources

00:00 The madness has to end. Stop the madness! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's Thursday December 9th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 259-er This is no agenda Decoding cables here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California In the morning I am the media terrorist known as Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where there are no WikiLeaks I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning! In the morning to all boots on the ground and all ships at sea, and to you Joe... What do I get to say? You don't get to say anything today. I figured i'd usurp ya Well I'm gonna say good morning or in the morning to all of the human resources Yes, the ones who are in our chatroom at noagendachat.net All charged up and ready to go The way your government loves you and needs you to be

01:01 I got a couple notes by the way about the ships at sea. I got some notes from ships at sea who said hey Don't mess with my ships at sea, because there are guys at ships at sea who are actually... There's one guy! There's a couple of guy. No I got a couple notes. There's two guys So that's human resources who are on ships at sea and we have definitely have boots on the ground. I wonder where they listen to tell you what they listened to this dream or they just download? No i didn't inquire They should Anyway in the morning to your John it's been nice not talking to ya Yep, I agree with that one. Yeah it's actually quite nice So we had you know there was an outage at PayPal which affected us dearly Oh at least half of our money

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Walmart and DHS "See Something Say Something" Partnership

Executive Producer Sir Larry Lee expresses outrage over the Walmart corporation cooperating with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Secretary Janet Napolitano appears in a promotional clip encouraging shoppers to report suspicious activity to Walmart managers. The initiative is compared to the surveillance state depicted in George Orwell's 1984.

walmart· janet napolitano· homeland security· sir larry lee· 1984

01:51 At least, more than half actually. I did a calculation on the typical Thursday show we do so we ended up with... We might as well get rid of it or get rid of. Might as well mention our executive producer Oh one! One executive producer He's not only the executive but he got lucky and of course he is Sir Larry Lee who is a lucky guy in Granite Shoals Texas And he's our executive producer for this show and also the only member of The 259 Club That would be The 2-5 Niner Club Yeah, The Two Five Niners Club And he's donating $2.59 for episode 2-5-9 because he's outraged, he says The idea that the Walmart corporation is cooperating with the Department of Homeland Security and suggesting that ordinary citizens should report indeed indicators of terrorist activity Walmart managers since when did ordinary citizens become experts in? Indicators of terrorist activity since when did Walmart become the target of terrorist activity now citizens of this country are encouraged to rat on our friends and neighbors just like The paranoid fascists state of Germany prior to the rise of the third

02:53 Right! So the show is over. Everything I wanted to say, Sir Larry Lee has summed up in one donation... dedication? Rant yeah It's perfect Hi i'm Janet Napolitano secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Homeland security begins with hometown security that's why I am pleased that Walmart is helping make our communities more safe and secure If you see something suspicious in the parking lot or in the store, say something immediately. Report suspicious activity to your local police or sheriff if you need help ask a Walmart manager for assistance Thank you for doing your part to help keep our hometowns safe That's the part that really cracked me up it's like if I'm really in trouble

03:38 If I, you know this is what cheat- This is what you should teach all your children. It used to be like if you're lost or in trouble You can always go up to a cop now it's like go up to any Walmart manager They will save you! Walmart managers are there to save you! It's disgusting I agree with Sir Larry Lee. This is a combination of 1984 with the telescreens, was that what they called it in 1984? The telescreens were giving you information? Or the telescriber yeah whatever, telestrator or whatever. No, telestrator is something we use at sports games to draw on the screen. Okay. I think telescope screen I think is what it was and

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Janet Napolitano Speech on Hometown Security and Violent Extremism

Janet Napolitano addresses law enforcement officials regarding "hometown security" and countering violent extremism (CVE). She defines violent extremism as a radicalized form of violent crime and emphasizes community-oriented policing. The discussion highlights her use of the "See Something, Say Something" campaign to empower individuals as part of the security effort.

janet napolitano· dhs· cve· violent extremism· community policing

04:25 Well, you know I have her entire speech which i watched diligently was on C-SPAN 3. You want to get obscure? C-SPAN 3 okay most cable networks and think even have c-span three no you get online now yeah so I actually I am I had the C-SPAN app and I was listening to Janet Napolitano speak to the BJA which is the blowjob association of america yeah actually it's the uh... it's all the lower level law enforcement people who came to washington for symposium and then of course you know at the end of the day then janet napolitano comes in and she's going to speak too the uh... the lower levels because there's no longer about homeland security it's about hometown security

05:18 Home town secure. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Yeah because the places are blowing up left and right! Do you want- Lincoln Georgia was under attack by Arab terrorists just last week I need to play this and then we can close this out at least as far as i'm concerned but it's really important because she does say something in there she stumbles over something which made me laugh but I think it's important to hear the words from the horse's mouth so to speak no pun intended uh... and by the way you should i put a link in the show knows that video of this you should see your she's like swaying back and forth is like a rapper up there on down on the podium really weird very very weird but uh... it's important out the way she uses nlp on the define police men and women of these united get most states

06:08 and programs them into this uh... and i know i have to explain some of the acronyms as well programs them into this initiative and that our citizens are community groups at small businesses all need to be a part of that effort what does that mean what that means is this here's the question I asked. I said, What is the best way to counter violent extremism here at home? Ah! Well what is the best wage on what do you think I didn't know we had any. What violent extremism are you talking about? Oh, she'll get into that! We have lots of...we're not just violent extremism We have terrorists In DC they give it initials CVE. Huh? All right what is the best way to do that here at home and the answer that came back and that i concur with

06:55 uh... is that we know we may not at DHS as part of our role have the full capability to understand why it is that somebody would become a violent extremist, a terrorist for example. Just so you know this happening all over the place John and they don't know why they don't understand how someone somebody becomes a violent extremist a terrorist if you will Really? Yeah, it's amazing. But we know what... I'm sorry, but i'm under the impression now that Indianapolis is being attacked as we're doing this show Is this true?! No. Oh okay. ...works in terms of building bridges with communities so that you in a way just by knowing what goes on in the neighborhood knowing... Here where she swaying back and forth like a moron What happens at the street having a degree of trust between police officer and

07:50 neighborhood group. Which I'm convinced is an NLP move if you like because you're like hip, you're down with the street and when it- You know what's going on in the hood that's exactly what she's doing by swaying back and forth it's freaky. What works in terms of being ineffective uh... strategy for combating violent crime and violent extremism is a radicalized form of violent crime. Okay, now let's just make sure we understand this. Woah! What was that? Let's just make sure we understand that. Let me write that one down. Okay here it comes again. Violent extremism is a radicalized form of violent crime. There you go. Oh really? Just so ya know. And that is community-oriented policing

08:35 It's correct. It's in your communities. We're properly used, we're done in the right way it has been remarkably effective at helping our country bring down crime rates and keep crime rates low even sometimes in circumstances where you would predict they would be going up uh... and so we have been working with DOJ on COPS programs with the Cops is uh... shit what's that acronym for? COPS is the

09:14 uh... it's like the diffusion centers have you heard you know about these diffusion center i don't know not that well the cops thing is a where uh... and its is basically an operational procedure so that you can communicate information back to home base our initiative by an essay are which is suspicious suspicious activity reports to link those kinds of things together and to add a third allah this chair that is the role of individuals Um, and- Here it comes. Now listen to the fumble! Listen to the FUMBLE! That... uh... and how you empower individuals to be part of our homeland security, hometown security efforts. Well that's a hard question. What do we do? It is really hard question! I mean how do you empower citizens to help us protect them or protect themselves? I think we program them to rat on their fellow citizens thats a good idea

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Government Funding for Walmart Security Advertisements

The federal government reportedly paid Walmart $13 million, possibly from American Recovery Act funds, to run security announcements at checkouts. Janet Napolitano is observed stumbling over the word "ads," preferring to call them "announcements." This payment structure is criticized as a form of bribery rather than traditional unpaid public service announcements.

walmart· dhs· advertising· public service announcement· american recovery act

10:12 And one way that we have lighted upon is a campaign called, If You See Something Say Something. Which by the way is... So coincidental it comes out right at the same time we have the don't ask, don't tell. It's like the dichotomy is hurting my brain John. It's like see something say something but don't ask, don't tell you know what I mean? It hurts. Now listen to the stumble If you see something say something is just what its name implies It is a campaign that, particularly when unified with a SAR initiative in a particular locale or particular state really now gives you the building blocks of a strong hometown homeland security effort. So we are expanding if you see something say something all over the country

11:08 Yay! This is good. They figured out what to do." We have added it to communities like the District of Columbia, we have added it to states Tennessee I think for example is now a see something say something state. This is it, I love that! It's hey I'm from the see something say something state where you from John? Are you from the see-something-say-something State or from the don't ask don't tell state? I am from the show me state okay we're venturing out into the private sector today for example I am announcing that you will be seeing see something say something

11:54 I don't want to say ads, but... Oh! Why wouldn't you call them ads? See this is where she messes it up. Because she has been told or she has agreed not to call it advertising so that's why she... Why did she drop the ball there because all she had to say if was written down which I'm sure it is a public service announcement She, uh... you know she was tired. That's the only thing I could figure out because at the end of the day and she is about to program all these stupid slaves in the room which is just great and then I'll be done with a clip but listen to her again she like ah-ah-ah-I don't want to call it ads because that's exactly what the meeting was about beforehand Don't call it an ad whatever you do by the way 13 million dollars given to at least that's the only amount I can track so far given to Walmart to run these ads at checkout It says your money too by the way

12:45 I don't say ads. Wait, are you telling me that taxpayers paid Walmart 13 million bucks to put this crap up? Yeah, 13 million. Great! You will be seeing see something say something uh...I won't say ads but announcements in Walmart stores across the country You're absolutely correct. The only reason she did that is because there was a meeting, this is the problem by the way with doing... we talk about this on the show when we break down media one of things you always learn is that you don't want to do pre-interviews with people necessarily unless your whole thing is completely not ad libbed

13:25 Because what happens is during the pre-interview you start to... You blow your load. Yeah, you say what you're supposed to say it and then when you're supposed to say it, you don't remember if you said or not because you are confused! And so the only reason she said that was because obviously there was a meeting where she was drummed into her in other words somebody was going you can't say it's an ad, you can't say it's and make sure you don't say it's an ad. Don't say its' an ad! And whenever your brain doesn't process that well he doesn't process the negative all it hears is... Ad, ad, ad. I don't want to say it's an

14:02 ad because of all crap i said it now uh... uh... but we're gonna do now why would that be john what he thinks i'd believe that the media is going to be completely complicit in this could everyone in the media business is like okay we got you know we have had two too many yeah exactly we've got two more years until elections we might as well get some mud dhs money in the meantime we need someone at add money Now, the thing that gets me about this... That's why it is not a PSA by the way. It is not a public service announcement because it is an ad. But you know they could be made into one and they could sold as one and they could hound places This is our government at work I want everyone out there to note this

14:41 the government is now instead of just doing PSAs like they would normally do and then hound you know the licensee holders because hey, you guys are supposed to be running more PSAs your licenses renewal's coming up. Exactly how come we're not running the PSA? Did you run our Homeland Security ad how many times when did you run it and just start hounding them and you get these guys to run these things for free but instead there just throwing money at the media in other words their bribing them The whole thing is basically corrupt the way they're doing it, and not that they should be running these ads at all or public service announcements. For Walmart to be running it and being paid to do it is abhorrent! Exactly I mean they're being paid to do it It says right there black-and-white $13 million dollars which was a part of...I think this even came out of the American Recovery Act funds

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Soft Targets and Security Scanners in Public Venues

DHS is expanding its focus to "soft targets" such as shopping malls, hotels, and sporting events. Janet Napolitano mentions meetings with professional sports commissioners and the NCAA to discuss security measures. The hosts suggest this is a precursor to installing body scanners in non-airport locations.

soft targets· mall of america· ncaa· security scanners· mumbai attack

15:34 and you know thirteen million that we're being told about by the way not bad thirteen million hey guess what if you see something say something now give me thirty million dollars will say it all day long when we john up all i have to do with my house thirteen million bucks were on board here right now is just one of our own board winded up with uh... with her programming the truth sees a beautiful piece of uh... of n l p and was just by this one about a little bit something say something I don't want to say ads, but announcements in Walmart stores across the country. And we are also working with educating not just shopping mall employees... Mall of America by the way also rolling this out for this holiday time of year but Also other employees listen listen listen listen soft targets

16:25 Now, earlier in the speech she spoke about you know what a soft target is? A soft target. The Mumbai attack is known as a soft target I don't know why it's called the soft target but this is a new meme you got to look out for Soft targets are hotels and shopping malls and sporting events It's like hotels hotel chains also organizations that manage large events where people can gather like large sporting events or no agenda meetings so that for example the professional sport league commissioners have met with me oh yeah because you know we got to get some scanners in there absolutely this is all about the scanner it's all about the scanners and we had good meetings with the hotels hey want to go to hotel welcome to our hotel please step through the scanner yes will be meeting with the NCAA as well yeah meet with them

17:11 But if you see something, say something. You leave this... Okay listen to this is great now remember she's programming local cops Talk here this afternoon and I know you've had a day of talks. I know See, first she... This is so great. I gotta do this play by play So first she's like, I know it's been so incredibly hard She completely endears these people Right? Cause it is the end of the day and I know I've been there And it really sucks and you had to listen all this stuff Yeah, yeah right And then she hits him Listen to her I mean, uh...I've been in your seat. I know. But i guarantee you when you leave this talk You're gonna remember a couple of things. Isn't that great?

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

TSA Choke Points and Potential Terrorist Tactics

A prediction is made regarding the danger of security "choke points" created by the TSA, where large crowds gather before screening. It is argued that these areas are more attractive targets for terrorists than the airplanes themselves. While the hosts doubt such attacks will occur in the U.S. due to a lack of actual terrorists, they suggest London is a more likely location.

tsa· choke points· london· suicide bombers· airport security

18:00 when you're is good you will remember a couple and then it's like yeah don't need an addition goes in the whole thing what you can remember you know member like uh... to rat on everybody instead all up and i don't think they are going to have a really help ruin the country a just use this kind of gap so i i so i want to make a i'm gonna make a prediction here that needs to be noted on the show i think we could be candid at this before but it never been out now prediction but I was reading the Atlantic article where Pistoli was interviewed by a couple of stooges, I might add. For real! Yeah good on you. And somebody in the comments made this assertion which we have discussed in certain

18:42 uh... times is sure bites think probably at least a year ago or more but i want to make it as an out now prediction on his side of things that happen in this country was going to happen and that he has a uh... a choke point attack which is the obvious thing for terrorists to do next which is a um... you have the tsa they have a holiday season like christmas or something where you have the lines backed up like there's no tomorrow and are you coming into that area with the bomb and they put you in the machine, and they say hey there's a bomb in here. You set it off and kill everybody in the area. There are more people jammed into this choke point than on airplane. And then on the airplane, and their likelihood of success is quite high, and it would get a lot of attention, and it would again create this issue where now we have to have appointment to get on your plane because well we can't have too many people jacked up here. So sign-in for your appointment online

19:37 and so everyone has a go at you know your it five oh seven years you missed your appointment you know i was telling ya because why did he is this these these choke points are extremely dangerous that she has said obviously incompetent or they wouldn't be setting up choke points because you don't have to get the bomb through you just blow out the choke point and you kill everybody in the area in the vicinity of the all-out do you I think that this will not happen in the United States because we don't have a bunch of terrorists around here. It's bogus, the whole thing is nonsense but it will happen in London? Well they- It'll probably happen in London! I'm guessing London. Isn't that what happened at Manchester Airport where the guys drove their jeep into the choke point and tried to explode the Jeep?

20:20 Yeah, but it was not played out. But this is what's gonna happen probably in London It could happen at any place of course But it won't happen here because we don't really have a bunch of suicide bombers yet We don't have terrorists here We don't have any yet because we haven't created them by being the jerk-offs that we are or the TSA is. But, the point is that it's going to happen and then we're going to respond again as if its happening here when it's not and it's just gonna make things worse they don't know what to do about that! The choke points are a problem and they're creating the choke points It's their creation. It is the security administration's creation, these choke points so when everyone who gets killed in one of them and some maniac blows up a you know wraps a bomb around himself and suicide bombs the area it's their fault

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Suspicious Activity Reports and Neighbor Surveillance

The "See Something, Say Something" initiative is linked to the filing of Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) against ordinary citizens. The hosts warn that this encourages neighbors to "rat" on one another, creating a paranoid social environment. They note that the United Kingdom has already experienced several years of this type of domestic surveillance.

sar· suspicious activity report· united kingdom· ratting· surveillance

21:10 Let me thank a couple people who have done some PR initiatives and then we can kind of get into the rest of the show because we got a little off track there but I just had to roll that out since our executive producer was kind enough to point out and support this program. uh... that this whole wal-mart ads which we don't want to call it adds because you can see everywhere now and they're going to be for paid at paid for advertisements yes think on your friends so i do wanna thank mister by the way stop a second did with this always leads two people turning in the innocent Of course! Just screw with them. Well listen, when we have an SAR against us which is real easy my neighbors will go to the cops and say you know he's kind of suspicious ah we have a SAR Suspicious Activity Report And then you know we saw something so were saying something then you get picked up you get arrested You're going be an information terrorist This is exactly what happens and Sir Larry Lee is right this is what happened Rat on your neighbors This how it starts by the way Gitmo Nation East United Kingdom has had this for two or three years now

22:14 and everyone's like paranoid and ratting on each other over there. Alright so I want to just briefly thank Mr Oile and GX2, they sent in a donation of $66.60 coming from the sales of noagendarecords.com and say please put the donation to on behalf of Mr. Oil, the other one on behalf of GX2 we're hoping sales will pick up go to noagendarecords.com these guys got a great Christmas album out of GX 2's recordings which of course include a lot of No Agenda stuff in there and that we highly appreciate their support that's not showing up in your PayPal John because honestly they wanted me to handle the anonymity part it's nothing personal

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Merchandise and 100-10-10 Coin Logistics

The hosts provide updates on various community-led merchandise projects, including paperclip figurines and Gitmo jewelry. They address ongoing shipping delays and logistical issues with the 10-10-10 coin challenge. A commitment is made to rectify order fulfillment problems, though the process has proven costly for the show.

no agenda figures· karma pins· 10-10-10 coins· merchandise· eric

23:01 I wanted to mention that noagendafigures.com is now up, this is the kid who was making the paperclip figures Oh yeah. And so they're up now and you can go to noagendafigures.com Pretty cool! He's got the No Agenda Knight figurine, and they're all relatively inexpensive These... he's also got the Gitmo jewelry So a little figurine with a... With an ankle bracelet on Another one with a hypodermic needle It's all right in line with our No Agenda stuff

23:43 Quick notes from the No Agenda mug, Billy the Kid. Well I sent you the ten bucks from the seven items that I sold at noagendamug.com It's been a bit slow but we're offering a free engraved No Agenda ornament with each order for Christmas to go to noagendamug.com the 10-10-10 super karma pins just so there's no confusion with any other 10-10-10 stuff uh this ten to ten super karma medallions and lapel pin shipped two weeks ago are now arriving and everything will be sent out to everyone who ordered. And I guess we're

24:23 Now what have we done exactly on the no agenda coin issue, John? We have the coins in hand. They're being shipped out as we speak The 10-10-10 coins and apparently there's some people that didn't get their other ones and they've been found And those should be out shortly and then Eric will be finishing up the whole thing probably within the next seven days So people should start to get all of their coins and the rest of it And essentially we'll wind up not making all that much money on the whole deal which is I think kind of made us reconsider how much promotion we want to put into certain initiatives. Right, and also when we do it... We're discussing this in a future show probably within a week or two will have the policy statement because we need one. We do need one because you know were basically taking the money out about the shows pocket right now too fix this and is costing thousands of dollars which really the show needs

25:17 So it sucks, but since we did such heavy promotion on this 10-10-10 coin challenge and people didn't get what they paid for. We feel that we need to do whatever we can to rectify it Good news is I guess we have most of the actual coins now in hand so we can get everyone what they paid for Right It's a time-consuming process too, which is annoying. But luckily Eric is actually quite good at this sort of thing so he'll fix the problem. Good! He's like a customer service savant And then finally big in the morning to Bellingen I think that's how you pronounce it Bellingen in Australia

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

TSA Opt-Out Success and Dosimeter Talking Points

Mimi Curry successfully convinced other passengers to opt-out of airport body scanners by using specific talking points. The strategy involves questioning why TSA agents are not allowed to wear dosimeters if the machines are safe. The TSA has reportedly changed its procedure to be less confrontational during the opt-out process.

tsa· opt-out· dosimeters· talking points· mimi curry

26:04 it's a shire in the new south wales that congratulations uh... they've now started adding their fluoride to your water as of today so i welcome to the masses but look at what happened to the dumbed-down masses there and then you saw the way i was going to ask this is and send us money that's funny story Let me just wind it up and thank once again Sir Larry Lee, our executive producer. Sole member of the 259er club here for episode 259 of The No Agenda Show Everybody else out there you got to propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth New World Shut Up!

26:58 It's also a guy making a comic about us, John. Which I'm very excited about. Oh that could be fun now i want to get a call out to my wife Mimi went through the uh she did an opt-out? Uh yes And talked the woman behind her into doing an opt-out Very good Now, she's a good doobie. She has... we by the way everyone out there should have gotten on December 8th check your email box our talking points memo yes it's specifically about opting out and getting out of those machines which are dangerous and uh... there's no ifs, ands or buts about that. And in the Talking Point memo we'll give you all kinds of you know the talking points you need I want to talk about that a little bit later in this show because I have one talking point example but anyways so she said her talking point was she used

27:51 How come why just because now they have a new process for one thing. They don't yell opt-out Oh, really? They stopped doing that they don't embarrass you anymore Are you sure are you sure that she says yeah nobody got anybody this she said it's actually quieted down the quiet right now Okay, I'm sorry step over here. They didn't want to do that so they've changed the policy and but they did they definitely ask you and they have a notepad And they asked you why your opting out? And she said that she get in the other woman that followed her did the same exact thing She says she got a really good response The TSA was very appreciative of the reason she's opting out which is well the way I see it these machines must be dangerous because they won't let you wear dosimeters

28:34 She said that? Yes she did. And she said, so I don't feel comfortable if you can even be wearing these things...I understand they won't let you wear them this is terrible they should but let you wear them and the TSA guys got all a buzz about this yeah they should really oh that's excellent! And they soft peddled her through the whole thing saying everybody should opt out until you guys get to where the dosimeters Yeah, yeah, and so they all followed it. Really? Oh, they're so stupid hey did they touch her for JJ She said no. It was pretty mild because she was on their side, she's like one of the workers. Well that's excellent! Big shout out to... wait you know what? Not just a shout out I'm sorry we need to give her an in the morning. Good well see it works our talking points memo not only works on your friends and family it works on these slaves and human resources doing the actual deed

29:31 Yeah, it's a winner. Yay! Chocolating up for the team So anyway that is the new process they don't make us stink and they ask you and they actually write it down in great detail apparently exactly why your opting out so goes into some report of course then policies will change again to get people because their trying obviously get people go through these machines now there gonna wonder why And so the next step, the next thing you know they'll be wearing dosimeters. Then of course we have to change the talking point which will go like this... Well geez if you have to wear dosimeters these things must be dangerous! exactly that's how we do it because we are media assassins ladies and gentlemen love it yeah that's really good that's really good so anyway uh... we have a bunch of interesting but I think you know the obviously the wiki leaks thing is getting better by the minute yes yes it certainly is although um

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

WikiLeaks Cable Decoding and European Diplomatic Tensions

The hosts discuss the slow release of WikiLeaks cables through The Guardian and The New York Times. One cable reveals Herman Van Rompuy's frustrations with the Copenhagen climate summit and his threats to withdraw Belgian troops from Afghanistan. The hosts argue that much of the "leaked" information has already been discussed on No Agenda.

wikileaks· herman van rompuy· copenhagen· afghanistan· cables

30:29 You know they're not leaking, I didn't realize. I thought that they leaked out the 250 No no no They're leaking these things out like you know a hundred a day or something But they leak them out to The New York Times and to The Guardian first Yes but yeah i agree thats dubious but The Guardian keeps a database so you can go into The Guardians database I know but you know what John? Thank God and thank you very much supporters of this show. I've been able to hire an intern to do the editing for The Big App Show Kevin the blade so I have all this time all of a sudden, you know, I can take Mickey out to lunch You know But instead of that instead of taking out to lunch, um sitting there decoding cables

31:10 and I'm looking at this stuff, John. I'm sorry it's like National Enquirer for elites It's pretty funny Yeah it is nothing that you know... I don't know! I think its pretty interesting But we've discussed most of these things on the show No this is the irony of the whole thing There's hardly a thing in here That we haven't talked about On this show for the last year Or more But, there's a couple of twists that we don't have and we need to know. We have to look at these cables and one of the ones I ran into if you look at climate gate or global warming in the database you find a memo about Von Rompuy. And he is moaning and groaning that the Europeans were screwed on that Copenhagen event

31:54 and they were snubbed according to him, and the whole thing was a disaster. And he says that one in Mexico is going to be even worse because they're snubbing the Europeans about all this green global warming stuff. He said we should just bypass it and do a deal with the United States. Then he goes on and says if there's not progress in Afghanistan by the end of 2010 which is like in a week he says we're out of there, this is bull crap and he says were leaving the minute one Belgian is killed. Yeah but hold on a second so this was and I read this one because I've read everything that I could really This was uh...the guy who had a personal relationship right? Remember that

32:37 indoctrination and propaganda works on many different levels. This guy even says in the cable, this diplomat said I'm a personal friend of Fran Rompuy and the guy who set the meeting up he didn't even expect Fran Rompuy to be there so Fran Rompuy was actually sending him a message back this is just it's like tit-for-tat bull crap and by the way, this goes perpendicular to what is actually happening with the biodiversity meetings in Cancun and what the European Union saying don't think for a minute that from Rumpuy has any power so its all distraction. Well, Rumpuy obviously uses as distraction yeah but it's interesting to me today you hear all the little catty chit chat I think it's amusing

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Anonymous DDoS Attacks and Internet Regulation

The distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks by the group Anonymous against PayPal and Visa are criticized as counterproductive. The hosts argue these attacks provide the government with a pretext to regulate and take control of the internet. They suggest the timing aligns suspiciously with FCC discussions on net neutrality.

4chan· anonymous· ddos· paypal· net neutrality

33:25 I mean if you don't want to pay any more attention to it, i think is fine but... No. I do! But here's my problem My problem is now we're at a very interesting point where we have all of these people who are hyped up on War of Worldcraft and all these online games and shooting people And it's like, yeah let's get your weapons! Let's go with a distributed denial of service attack on PayPal and MasterCard and Visa. It's like could you play any more into the hands? Please could you make it anymore easier for new legislation regulation to come in and for the government own the internet Could you make it any easier I don't think so this is the stupidest thing we can do and people always get all hyped up about Yeah man

34:12 We're taking them down, man! Get your weapons man!" I read all the 4chan stuff and the anonymous group and all this crap. It's sickening it's exactly the wrong thing everyone always jumps into war for some righteous reason then all of a sudden you wake up to go wait a minute what are we doing this again for? And then yeah...and then you've got like government up your ass It's going the wrong way. It's not good I'm not gonna argue with you because i also think that everything is a setup Thank You To take over the internet and where that comes into play Is in the recent discussions about and around the FCC FCC net neutrality it all happens at exactly the same time Exactly the same time And the open discussions on the right wing

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

WikiLeaks Media Spectacle and FCC Control

The media coverage of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks is characterized as a staged spectacle. The hosts question why the government hasn't seized WikiLeaks' DNS as they have with other sites if the threat were genuine. They express concern that the FCC will use the chaos to justify taking over cable and internet infrastructure.

julian assange· cnn· fcc· net neutrality· dns

34:58 on the right wing talk shows about all you know this is terrible you know this is this is the kid you had largely due to be just because it has got a website doesn't mean as a journalist there's all these different kinds of assertions about you know whether or not assange is like that you-know-who bad guy are good guys and is like this dichotomous debate does not end is nothing in between by the way he agrees let me ask your question so i saw cnn and i don't have a clip of it talking to two other guys one who look like like u s sixteen with you know like glasses yes we're here at WikiLeaks headquarters in London and he was interviewing them well yes, you know what is out there and we know what's coming. I'm like wait a minute

35:38 Why don't they arrest these punks? What are they doing, like they're not part of WikiLeaks. It's so obvious! And people don't see it you know a lot of our listeners tons of them I'd say 40-50% are totally eating up the whole WikiLeaks thing They buy it as Robin Hood or something and what's funny about is that the WikiLeaks guy in a studio He's not in an undisclosed location. He is in one of these studios, by the way they're all over the country I go to them every so often when we have something for CNBC and San Francisco has got five of these places with chroma key screens yeah they've got all this gear inside that are beautiful inside you get all this stuff going on and you sit there in a chair

36:24 and then they put a camera on you and they put the thing in your ear, the next thing you know you're talking to New York. And that's why there are all these long delays when somebody asks the question by the way we have that even a little bit on Skype and I always defeat it by stepping on your last line which is so professional yes i'm just saying because that long lag is annoying but when you watch this guys on television, so Mr Jenkins what do you think about the situation one Two three four five then his eyebrows go up and he goes. Oh, I think it's terrible Hey buddy get would you know what you go over a satellite link is taking forever to talk to jump on it douche So anyway so the guy could be grabbed is the point? I'm trying to make if they wanted to Gave himself what does this son she got to do with it no nothing But like but you just look at the reporting. It's like oh

37:17 He walked in the Stein Larsen. Yeah, all right here I am better rested he walked into it He can't buy anything is mastercard and visa are dead his money's gone. He needs a meal He goes to get something to eat give me a roof over my head please meanwhile He was hiding out and this was the funniest thing he was hiding out at the front line club Which is like the first place you want to go look for the guy? It's like a club, literally. A club with five rooms. Everyone knew what was going on... This is just what blows my mind is that it's so obvious Let's go back to the government not grabbing DNS like they did with these other websites like torrentfinder.com

38:06 not turning anything off, not doing anything like that. Using... totally misusing it we've got Secretary of Defense Robert Gates saying hey this is a good thing because people know that we're badass motherfuckers were bad ass you know which is badass people they gotta do business with us oh and by the way will be off the air rather quickly when the FCC takes over the net because if your cussing yes I am sorry well then all have to work on it. No, that's not possible I'm just saying though because... It's because we have Tourette's, it's impossible! First you have Tourette's what are we supposed to do? Wait a minute! Americans with disability thing maybe we can get some kind of subsidy so one of the things the FCC wants to do of course they want to take over cable yeah which is what provides my internet by the way

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

China's Economic Expansion in Africa

A WikiLeaks cable highlights U.S. concerns regarding China's aggressive economic involvement in Africa. The BBC reports on China's strategy of building infrastructure like roads and schools to facilitate resource extraction. The hosts note that this "revelation" has been common knowledge in alternative news circles for years.

china· africa· wikileaks· bbc· congo

38:49 They want to take over cable and then they want to take over the internet. And so, because it needs to be controlled. It's out of control! So let's play a couple clips that I have that kind of touch on this here and there... So i watched this week Judge Napolitano who is just he basically his main guest that he has constantly as Ron Paul. Yeah oh yeah I love it and before you move any further Where, so in all this WikiLeaks stuff we have nothing about 9-11. Nothing about Oklahoma City bombing. Nothing of nothing and nothing about any of the stuff We've actually are interested in there never seems to be anything about that it's all bullcrap

39:31 There is one thing by the way, another I told you so thing that showed up in WikiLeaks which the BBC picked up on and i think we discussed this two years ago which is how China's like basically sneaking and taking over Africa. Yeah they've got... And now it's a big revelation! Play the BBC WikiLeaks China & Africa clip. Well the latest batch of US diplomatic cables disclosed by WikiLeaks focuses on U.S views of China's involvement in Africa Earlier, our World Affairs correspondent Humphrey Hawksley told me just how significant they are. Well basically it's encapsulating what America thinks about China's involvement in Africa which has been growing hugely in recent years and describes China as a pernicious and aggressive enemy economically

40:16 But it says that it's not yet a military threat, but it does throw up the tripwires of how far China has to go before America considers it to be a military threat. When it starts running intelligence gathering operations when it starts training armies and when... We went through this but the thing is we read this from real news sources! This is what kills me these cables are nothing but reports Let me just explain what's going on here. We get reports from all over the world, from local newspapers and publications because this stuff does get published but doesn't make it to the top of the news that the Kardashians aren't talking about it although that is changing now as well

40:54 So about the one and a half million Chinese in the Congo, we know all this. We know that they say oh we're going to build you schools hospitals but we're gonna build the roads first to get all the crap out of your country. With knowing all this and now it's a big revelation so John help me understand help me understand what is going on? I think there's an element of, uh... i'm not absolutely sure myself but i think there is an element that the news media in general it so oblivious to what actually is going on. That they're actually surprised? That's what happened? Oh my god! There's gambling going on there?! I'm telling you, I am convinced their actually stunned Well the thing that disappoints me the most as a look at the chat room and looking emails our audience is stunned by this like WHAT!?

41:41 Have you not been listening? We've done nothing but talk about this consistently. And now it's like, well, WikiLeaks is bogus. No, WikiLeaks is nothing new! Here play the Judge Napolitano R-Point exactly. Okay here we go... Back with our freedom fighters Gasparino, Marshall and Goyette. Charles Goyette to you first here's the problem that I have...I'm not in favor of any of this vengeance and i don't know who is conducting these cyber attacks but what business is it of the government

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Judge Napolitano and Ron Paul on Government Bullying

Judge Andrew Napolitano and Congressman Ron Paul discuss the government's role in pressuring private companies like PayPal and Visa to cut off WikiLeaks. They argue this sets a dangerous precedent for government interference in business and journalism. Ron Paul emphasizes the need for transparency within the Federal Reserve rather than focusing solely on diplomatic cables.

judge andrew napolitano· ron paul· federal reserve· freedom watch· bullying

42:17 to go to PayPal or Visa, Mastercard or Amazon saying we don't want you doing business with those people Wikileaks. You gotta stop doing business with them I mean if the government could do that it could say to The New York Times and Wall Street Journal's ink supplier We don't like their editorials so stop selling them ink If the goverment doesn't like what is going on its gotta sue you not bully out of working with your someone you've contracted Doesn't it show how deeply the government has insinuated itself into every aspect of American life, American business as well? That all of these institutions really live in fear of what the government will say or do. But you know Judge what bothers me even more is the relative indifference of the American people to knowing the truth I mean we get the Federal Reserve while we couldn't get an audit of the Fed

43:09 The Federal Reserve has suddenly been acting as the central bank to the world. I don't know about where it showed up in your newspaper, but in mine it was hidden in the back pages. At the same time we've got a trillion dollars in foreign and war spending and the American people do not want to know what kind of meddling the government is doing that will earn us blowback in future? Yes, so Ron Paul I guess was on Judge Napolitano. Yeah you have that clip? Well I have one of them he was on for a while but he says exactly the right thing is like Wikileaks is so great well why don't they actually have like some transcripts from the conversations to go off at the Federal Reserve! Like yeah is that the clip you have?

43:50 No, I don't have that one but that is one of the good clips. What do you have? Should I play the one he does? I have the one where he just says that he was upset with the fact that they want to now... instead again a nothing-to-see here moment and again actually an indication or kind of confirmation what YOU'RE saying Which is that the whole thing is an end around to get you know, the FCC to take over everything So we have you know, so we I mean let's face it. I mean if we if we have any theme especially on this show today when Napolitano and this You knows, you know just think on your friends or whatever that thing is called Rat your buddy out dot-com at your buddy a program from the US government for nothing Mickey don't rat on me man

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Redefining Journalism and Licensing Requirements

Congressman Ron Paul warns against legislative attempts to redefine the word "journalist" to exclude independent publishers. The hosts discuss the possibility of the government requiring journalism licenses, similar to policies in Brazil. They argue this is an attack on the First Amendment intended to stifle dissent on the internet.

ron paul· journalism· first amendment· licensing· brazil

44:34 Don't say anything about me to the government, okay? Promise?" Sorry she's talking to the CIA in the other ear. See something say something. See something say something! And so he was just thinking that whole thing is you know...crazy silly I mean play the clip it says not to...sorry don't hit it congressman some of your colleagues on the other side of the uh... of the capital in the senate are proposing legislation to redefine the word journalist and redefined the word a share there has to allow them to prosecute people for journalists and publishers

45:10 but reveal information that they don't like. Would you oppose such- I haven't heard what he's about to say, but does he talk about a license? Do we have to have a journalism license is that what he's gonna say? No he doesn't, but that is one of the elements involved with fact in Brazil if you call yourself a journalist you have to have a license which is against this constitution in this country. So was touching my penis. Legislation as being contrary to First Amendment Absolutely, but doesn't that remind you of 1984 when language becomes pretty vital? This whole idea that they might change the definition. Matter of fact I have a much broader definition. I don't think you have to write for a newspaper or magazine or be on TV or even put stuff on the internet.

45:55 should have those first amendment rights as if we are journalists. We even, if we write a note to somebody so no this would be atrocious to think that you can change the definition of words in order to promote to stay and further attack the internet that's what they're trying to do to us unbelievable there ya go alright well you know what Ron Paul has been pretty right before so he's basically saying... He's on the money yeah? You know he's like a guy who doesn't care So he tells it like it is Yeah Well he's a kook He's a kook. He's a kook, that's what you know I'll never forget my uncle Don I'll never forget it said who do you like said Ron Paul from Texas? Thanks Uncle Don he just confirmed everything I ever thought Yeah the cook from Texas and I sent him his book and the Fed he sent me back Hey thanks for sending me the book like he didn't fucking read it It goes in the fireplace yeah Let's heat everything up

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Kindle WikiLeaks and the Golden Age of the Internet

Amazon is selling categorized WikiLeaks cables for the Kindle despite refusing to host the WikiLeaks website. The hosts reiterate that the "golden age" of the unregulated internet is ending as the government moves toward regulation under the guise of net neutrality and protection from terrorism.

kindle· amazon· internet regulation· net neutrality· golden age

46:49 So anyway, so that of course is the true problem and you know I get email from people who are like, you know, I'm in the fight. And I helped a denial-of-service attacks like oh man That's exactly wrong thing to do that is not how and by the way what a joke It's a joke, you're not attacking the actual payment system. You're slowing down websites and by the way thanks! Thanks for all the help Yeah we got half of the money that normally do on Thursday because people couldn't reach PayPal. Thanks great working out And Amazon by the way they are selling for £7.97 they are selling the WikiLeaks nicely categorized for the Kindle

47:28 I got a link in the show notes. I ordered it! Yeah, that's cool! It was on my Kindle. You can look stuff up. They're not gonna host the site to the server but we gotta sell them. That does... yeah that's good one. We're gonna stand up against this and by the way if you've got some money we have the whole thing here on our desk. We'll sell them for ya don't worry about it But no I mean it all happens at the same time and there is so much else going on I think it is going towards regulating the internet. It's exactly at the right moment this happens when the FCC is talking about net neutrality... Oh, by the way- And what better way to ensure net neutrality than giving the FCC control over the Internet? Seriously! What better way?! That sounds great! Yes we'll be taking over the whole thing to protect you. For children fear make sure everything's good terrorism fear children

48:27 I have always said this is the golden age of the internet, enjoy it while you can. There's no way that this isn't going to end up getting regulated. They've been going after cable networks for years or at least a decade and they're just gonna keep hounding them and find some way to regulate little bit first, then next thing you know your cussing and your off. I have a disability Yeah, well you do have a disability so I think we can probably get some sort of... I think we can get subsidy. I think we could get some financing for American... A variance is what were looking for. American with Disabilities Act But anyway So yeah great job everyone that's fantastic and did you see any of those like the Anon dot net whatever it was? No It's in the Google cache You can still look at it but Get Your Weapon! It's literally like World Of Warcraft

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

WikiLeaks Disinformation and National Enquirer for Elites

The hosts warn of disinformation circulating as fake WikiLeaks cables, such as a debunked report about the "Norway spiral" and a presidential bunker. They describe the actual cables as "the National Enquirer for ugly people," providing catty entertainment for political elites rather than groundbreaking revelations.

disinformation· oslo· norway spiral· national enquirer· cables

49:24 It's like, get your weapons! Okay here you got to aim it now at... and they give the IP address of the visa website. Like God just idiots so stupid that's exactly what everyone wants to happen is exactly right and you know what we're gonna have because of course The Guardian in New York Times they're actually publishing these stories before a lot of these things are dumped or wiki-dumped But they're not arrested because they are accredited. They have a license and soon, I think you're right, they will have a license! And by the way there's lots of disinfo... So now i've been looking for this one because one of these crazy websites comes out and talks about WikiLeak 09-Oslo337

50:13 which I cannot find in any of the archives, not in the torrent etc. and this is like... although I wish it were true and of course it propagates very very quickly Hey man one of the WikiLeaks talks about that the president was rushed to the 2012 Alice Bunker when that Norway spiral showed up man bull crap yeah because it's total bullcrap written all over it and I'm like you know so now everyone so now you don't know what's true or not air and you can I have put the Google search link into this this bogus WikiLeaks cable and it's like, you know a million sites and all just propagating the same thing. So now we got to be... there are all kinds of disinfo and people aren't checking! And quite honestly even with the time I've created now that you can check on all these stories It is just not times like oh shit another one crap crap and then you gotta go find it the new archive, the new torrent. You don't know what its being misused in all over the place and it's in general just not good

51:18 I find it highly entertaining though. Yeah, i have to agree but there is but there really is...I have yet to see something like oh wow! I'm really blown away Oh yeah no that's all just all very you know it's very similar in fact we didn't even get a clip this week from Extra Extra or any of those shows because this is very much like kind of an ugly person version of entertainment news. Yes! This is what I said, these Wikileaks cables are like the National Enquirer for ugly people which is you know... that show business for ugly people. That's what politics is. And there are some good stuff, but here I got another good one. I thought this was kind of funny This is again on the Judge Napolitano show which I'm not going to do every week obviously although I have to say it's a show... I am telling you he's gearing up to take over Glenn Beck There something afoot that's for sure but on the Clinton breach He has got an interesting point or somebody has an interesting point and I thought it was very funny It's again about...

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Hillary Clinton and Diplomatic Credit Card Tracking

WikiLeaks cables suggest Secretary of State Hillary Clinton directed agents to obtain credit card numbers and biometric data of foreign diplomats. The discussion also covers how the U.S. government acts as a shill for American credit card companies in negotiations with Russia. The hosts characterize this as blatant corporatism.

hillary clinton· credit cards· state department· corporatism· russia

52:15 also actually guys i think i think the visa and mastercard maybe ought to uh... shut down hillary clinton's accounts isn't she involved in stealing uh... still in master card of these other different questions here you know what he was talking about one of the flight but what was that about the plant Things that we learned from WikiLeaks is that Secretary of State Clinton asked agents of the state department to steal the credit card numbers of foreign diplomats. That's what he was talking about, I'll tell you what the law is... The law is if a journalist acquires information it doesn't matter from what source If its newsworthy It can be published without civil or criminal liability So journalists can yell fire in a crowded movie theater? No were not talking about a crowded theater We're talking about the first amendment No no thats part of the first amendment

52:59 It's first of them only comes in to play with the government guys. Thank you for joining There's a couple of memes going out or going around about this which are you gonna hear more so the fire? That's one that's kind of an old one, but the other one is if you had information about D-Day Have you heard this meme popping up it's everywhere Yeah, yeah like uh So if you had is so uh if wikiLeaks had information about d-day You know would you would you publish that I you know is so the because of course i would get that information it's it's julian assange she walks on water so the uh... no those does a means are back our barb just all over the place but they've got to think about hillary about apparently in one of them was at least it says that she wants to do gets and still has credit card number why i guess so they can read the cable did say that exactly how i don't know but i don't think there's a rationale for this

53:51 that is you know obviously want to track some credit card deals this year contract a number you can because the credit card companies are in bed with uh... but i found the most interesting guy and i did read this cable that they were working on behalf of mastercard and visa with the in negotiations with russia it our government has nothing better do than be shills for these credit card companies which isn't quite whether so outrageously overpriced But anyway, uh... Yeah but hold on a second. That cable was nothing but this is what diplomacy is all about! It's like hey we gotta work with the Russians because otherwise big American companies are gonna get gypped because they want to use different processing that's what politics is about it's all about money! Big revelation! I don't care about that. Don't bring it up So I'm just saying that the cable well politics is about

54:40 you know more than just representing large corporations. No not anymore I disagree that's all it is about! Oh no, I know that's what it is but that's no good Well no but no one seeing that No, you can't. That's the point is that you can have a bunch of just nothing but guys going over there representing General Electric because General Electric competes with a lot of other companies and why do they get all the extra bonus points to be held in high esteem by our own government while the other guys get screwed? This is just corporatism! Anyway, the point... okay. Alright, Steven's stating the obvious. So anyway so no I'm thinking that with the way this Hillary thing comes down it just- The way they presented it makes it sound like she stealing credit card numbers so she can do buy some stuff on the internet or something with a stolen card! That's what it sounds like Of course the real story that is going undiscussed Is that our very own government is tracking our credit card purchases in real time without warrants

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Real-Time Credit Card Tracking and FBI Entrapment

The hosts discuss reports that the government is tracking domestic credit card purchases in real-time without warrants. They also critique recent FBI "terror" stings, arguing that the agency often lures "dumb kids" into fake plots to manufacture arrests for crimes of stupidity rather than actual threats.

obama administration· warrants· fbi· entrapment· terrorism

55:42 this story has been completely snowed under probably by this Hillary bull crap. I'm sure you've read this, right? Yeah! So... It's all part of that law that was passed in 2008 by the Obama administration Is the world just speeding up John have you ever felt like this before in all your years it just wasn't like No, I mean because we haven't followed it. It's been going like this for since Since the 80s I said or before but price was since the Nixon administration Or since the CIA took over the government as Ron Paul says around when Kennedy was assassinated It's been going on and we're just you know, we just happen to be Noticing it more because you know what? Is that think they've gotten carried away

56:28 They've jumped their own shark so to speak. Yeah, well when you have this Napolitano character not judge but Lucy and Is that her name? I can't remember Anyway, Lucy Napolitano. Now you freak me out! I can't remember her name. It's Lucy she looks like Lucy. No it's not Lucy. It's Lucy Napolitano. She is the character in the... It's not Lucy its Janet. Oh Janet right. Don't freak me out like that don't do that. It's the same type of name and so lucy i can it is like uh... you know telling people to think you know to use your trying to turn the country into cuba and you know this is a cathy were told that was about ideal work kids but she's you know promoting it we haven't got any terrorists in this country get the one or two loaners that do you have the fbi stumbles upon a guy who has them into being terroristic with another kid i was just watching yesterday

57:22 It's like another kid and they lured him into... Another dumb kid. Yeah, and they show a picture And I'm like that's a dumb kid! You can make him a religious nut you can make them a gangster? You could make him a football player? But not actually a terrorist They said here press this button son Oh did you pretend that you're blowing up a bomb now your arrested what crime did the kid commit? Seriously? The crime of stupidity Yes exactly hold on a second John I think And now back to real news. I just need a break, I need a break because there is a break! This is the funniest thing ever so we're talking about the Hollywood Whackers Ronnie Chasen who of course PR associate for many many years in the Hollywood's

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Beverly Hills Police Press Conference on Ronnie Chasen

The Beverly Hills Police Department holds a press conference regarding the death of Hollywood publicist Ronnie Chasen. They claim a suspect, Harold Smith, killed himself with the same gun used on Chasen and suggest the murder was a random robbery attempt by a man on a bicycle. The hosts express deep skepticism regarding the "random act" theory.

ronnie chasen· beverly hills police· suicide· robbery· bicycle

58:11 Okay, so they find this... I gotta set this up. So she gets clearly whacked right? It's an obvious whack job. What was it we had a word for it not Columbia but you got whatever yeah that thing you had the word I never remember whatever it was so it's like you know to the chest one of the head right so then a tip comes into America's Most Wanted Right? And the ticket is, hey there's this guy running around saying that he whacked Ronnie Chase and he got paid $10,000 for it. So this is just all... I don't know this for a fact, I'm just reading the reports. I have the press conference here

58:52 Oh cool. Well then I'll also, do you have it on clip? Play Chasin Conference 1 and then Chasin Conference Part 2 and you'll hear the press conference with the Beverly Hills Police which is very funny. Do I have to set this up a little more maybe? No, you can hear this because there's some stupidities in here that I just have to explain the one thing then then we can get into The press conference so essentially the guy the police come in the guy kills himself immediately turns out He killed himself with the very same gun that Ronnie Chasin was killing a coincidence. I think and then it's I think not but then the cops come out and say well I

59:36 It was just random act of violence the guy was riding his bike in front of this press conference. Do you have any tire marks that would match the bicycle around the area where Ronnie Chasen lost her life? The bicycle in question, we're not sure of. There was a bicycle that was taken into custody by LAPD at the suicide scene down... Let me tell you anyone riding a bike in Los Angeles is suspect no matter what! This is in Beverly Hills at midnight! Riding a bike! You are suspect. Black gangster who they pulled you over if your lacrosse side, if you're not driving a car that's older than the certain year they'll pull you over in Beverly Hills Los Angeles which will be turned over from LAPD to the custody of Beverly Hills

1:00:28 through you can hear the shills in the back is that a on the paper robbery gone bad there's another show why their shows like that though there's one guy just keeps pounding him it's very funny this present interviews and information we received leads us to believe he was desperate point in his life and was reaching out and doing desperate measures that's kind of like me we're doing very desperate measures anything to make a living preliminary we believe it was a random act and we believe mrs. Chasen was going to be the victim of robbery how did the call go John?

1:01:21 Hey, I have a chief of police. Yeah, it's uh it's you know who this is Dude, I think we got to like back the f off for this chasing thing so I'm thinking random act of violence robbery Desperation bicycle okay? All right cool all right go ahead do the press conference The scenario was you still think the shooting took place at that corner of Sunset and Whittier And then the suspect you're talking about, Mr. Smith may have been on a bicycle as she's about to make her left turn and opens fire and shoots her Is that your theory? For the most part yes So he's just riding his bike at that time of night and she's waiting to make the left turn into light and he picks around and shoots her Yeah! That is exactly what the guy told me

1:02:10 It's still an ongoing investigation. We believe that she he was intending to rob her and that she would have been the victim of a robbery We're not going to comment as to the contents of the video at this time The investigation will continue. We're probably 60 to 70 percent done we have additional interviews to do Still more background and you want it with we want an opportunity to a look we want to eliminate Every possibility that other people were involved if this is 60 or 70% done premature for Beverly Hills Police Department To come out and say that we think this is our guy 60% is hardly

1:02:58 Is there more to come here? Is anything good? Yeah, this guy Hanson McGinney. There's one report I just summarized it the reporter comes back and says okay so what you're saying is that this guy came up to robber she just shot her out of the blue and then she rolled into a tree and then he took off So he never robbed or anything By the way forgot to take any money He didn't take anything but he saw he just came up to her and shot her and that way she was gonna be robbed. This guy keeps hounding him for this but anyway you can go on to that there's a part two of this you might want to jump too which kind of adds a couple other little funny dimensions, which is the fact that there were...this guy as you look at his picture he's a gangster

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Media Blather and Hollywood Messaging

Headline News (HLN) and other outlets are criticized for their speculative coverage of the Ronnie Chasen murder. The hosts argue the "random robbery" narrative is a message to Hollywood elites that they are not safe. They suggest the hit was a professional warning related to the PR industry and money.

hln· aj hammer· ronnie chasen· mercedes-benz· pr

1:03:41 and he apparently shot him or shot her you would think, and they said it was a nine millimeter when it came up but now they can't find any casings in his shells which means as somebody else pointed out in the another clip called chase and blather which we have to listen because this is just a bunch of idiots on HLN. By the way what did headline news become? You know become like MSNBC or Fox The headline news I always see like the women talking about abducted children. That's all i ever see on HLN This is they had a five three box and this bullcrap play the chase chasing blather on hlm hold on you're confusing me Yeah, you are You're not following the script in a movie they throw it into circular file and say it's just too unlikely um

1:04:27 I don't know what to make of it. There was a lot of skepticism at the news conference. No! Tell me they had AJ Hammer in one of the boxes? You gotta have AJ Hammer in one of the boxes. Alright, Brooke Anderson what do you think the reaction will be in Hollywood are they gonna believe that Beverly Hills Police here or are they going to continue to think that is something much larger going on here well actually think it could be a plausible theory because there's of foliage, a lot of greenery in that area on Whittier Drive. And he could have been lying in wait. He definitely could have pedaled his bicycle the few miles to that area from Hollywood where he lived and just been lying in wait. The investigator said that he had reached the point of desperation in his life. He was very desperate and I immediately thought Vinny of that report earlier in the week

1:05:21 close friend of Chasen's reportedly had told Chasen after she got this brand new black Mercedes, oh Ronnie you're going to be a blonde in the new Mercedes. You're going to be a target anybody remember that report? And I immediately thought maybe this guy was lying in wait he was desperate financially and then we saw this well coiffed woman Well, queef quaff quaff. Let's get this straight. Let's get the story straight first of all the guy is desperate so he pedals his ass all the way to Beverly Hills instead of just robbing somebody next door and hides in the foliage and waits and she by the way is a well-plumbed blonde in a new car

1:06:05 and there's none of those in Los Angeles by the way. I never see any! It's like Mexico City... I don't see it ever, nowhere! You never see a blonde in a new car in Los Angeles or the Hollywood area? Of course not so she's a target give me a break uh all right I do have a wrap-up to this can we just move past all the audio? Yeah go ahead So, first of all Hollywood is ablaze about this. And I know because I'm in the milieu as John would say and everyone has got the message alright? The message is you can get whacked and whoever's whacking you gets away with it cause people are not stupid alright they get it okay messages

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Monetizing Celebrity Meltdowns and Hedge Funds

New York Magazine profiles an investment vehicle led by Tom Barrack and Rob Lowe that "bails out" distressed celebrities by acquiring their future earnings and assets. The hosts discuss the potential dark side of such investments, including the financial incentive for an investor if a celebrity's value increases after death.

tom barrack· rob lowe· michael jackson· annie leibovitz· hedge funds

1:06:47 You don't play along with whatever game you're asked to play along with, you will get killed. So this is a big ass message which is now the period has been put at the end of the cable by the Beverly Hills Police coming out and saying nothing to see here. She was going to be robbed! It was just waiting to happen Now very interesting Simultaneously The New York Magazine I thank the producer who sent this to me has a multi-page article written by Benjamin Wallace called Monetizing the Celebrity Meltdown and you really need to read this. It's about Tom Barak who was an investor, and he teamed up with Rob Lowe and they have this company

1:07:36 And what they do is, they bail out celebrities in tough times. And they bailed out Michael Jackson and you know they've got hundreds of celebrities... Annie Leibovitz all these people coming up to them and saying..and it's a hedge fund right? So people invest in this guys investment vehicle And so this is why I think that it's very, very dangerous. So you bought a whole bunch of cars, you got houses whatever you did, you screwed it up Oh crap what am I going to do? You go these guys to Barrick and Lowe and there are some great articles, very well written

1:08:13 You go to them, they'll say alright we're going to bill you out. We're gonna give you like here's 10 million whatever you need and of course were gonna have your future earnings of your art, photography, movies whatever it is right? And they say business has never been so good which totally makes sense Here's the problem when you have an investment vehicle like that, you have investors who are looking at this and going hmm okay so I've invested in this fund. How could i up the ante a little bit? And of course if you're smart investor these guys have invested in Andy Leibovitz and Michael Jackson hey you know what I think that celebrity may be worth more for just fucking kill him

1:08:57 Well, essentially you can take insurance out on things. On investments which is called a credit default swap Yes thank you You can't do it on peopleness I can't like take an insurance policy on you necessarily that i know of and then sign over million dollars to myself if something happens to ya but as investment there's always the possibility I suppose uh... yeah there's an element there It was one of these things that's tricky Yeah, tricky but if I were an investor and you're an astute investor and your looking at stuff. Coincidentally in the same week The Vanity Fair came out with a profile of Randy Quaid and his wife

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Randy Quaid and Celebrity Extortion

A Vanity Fair hit piece on Randy Quaid and his wife is analyzed as part of a broader trend of controlling and extorting wealthy celebrities. The hosts discuss the "Starwackers" theory and the influence of American celebrities in foreign nations, as purportedly mentioned in WikiLeaks cables regarding George Clooney and Lindsey Lohan.

randy quaid· vanity fair· starwackers· extortion· george clooney

1:09:42 and to make them look like complete maniacs. And very well done by the way, and interesting and entertaining. Well done! It's a well-done hit piece. And it was done because it was soft. It was a soft hit piece and those things are really difficult to pull off you have to be good There's some information in there that I'm looking at going, has this been verified? And I'm actually gonna check a few sources myself. Like what? Well then I'm not gonna say because I don't want to give it away but it'll be the next few shows and I'm just gonna call some of these sources that are in there you can read the article you see them once they stand out like a sore thumb and say is this true

1:10:19 Because I don't know if the reporter did that, because a lot of times you get fed stuff and you find a good source. They tell you this they tell you that they tell you this and they slip up a turkey in there And it goes in the list and next thing you know your not doing fact checking by the way. I dont' know if Vanity Fair does fact checking anymore uh... and there's too many facts to check in this article yeah by just seems to me i'd like to find out of all those facts are true and i'm not convinced that it anyway i will say that and i still don't think he's not see please you do some checking on that but i think it's i think it's very very dangerous what has happened now in these as celebrities are definitely under the gun and i think that they are a lot of them are being controlled well you know if you get a propaganda messages unit list listeners look at his logically

1:11:05 People who are loaded. Yeah. They are always seen as potential targets for the mob, as a for extortion right? I mean if you have a little business in a little neighborhood and your know you can have somebody come by say you know you want to brick through the window or do you want to give us some money and they come by they collect money for the rest of the term of the business so you close if you don't like it but these we're not talking about people that are well off or well-to-do were talking about people that are loaded they have millions, they make millions and millions and millions of dollars doing movies and other things. But more importantly they have not just according to the reports that are out now not just uh... the ear of the American public but actually they're very influential amongst foreign nations this is a this is now fact-of-record

1:12:00 and uh... and i think the the the wiki leaks cables are now showing this are they not that uh... that all american like a desperate housewives in george cluney are very influential in arabic states yeah fairly letterman and data house right at the top of the so our answer eric's and lindsey lohan right was a target so there's extortion every it's it just makes a lot of sense but its popping up a little bit now and the minute you get this and we just gotta get off this topic but the minute you get this Ronnie Chasen hit is like by the way which deals with PR which is how news works I feel bad know that we talk about her likes to slab meat because he was a person who got killed here but there's a lot more going on and I think it is all about messaging NPR and money

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

PBS Fundraiser and The Beatles "Love" Special

PBS is criticized for using a Cirque du Soleil Beatles special as a fundraising tool, which the hosts view as a commercial venture for the Michael Jackson estate. They mock the use of the word "collaborator" in the fundraiser, noting its negative historical connotations from World War II.

pbs· cirque du soleil· the beatles· michael jackson· collaborators

1:12:53 Not just about some stuff that goes on in Hollywood. I think there's a lot of important stuff here Well, yeah we'll be discussing it as time goes by I think you should take our little uh... We don't have a lot people to thank this week Let me do the jingle then I'm gonna show my support By donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could deal with us Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah On no agenda In the morning This is great so thanks to The script kiddies, what I'll call them because i don't think any serious sysadmin would actually participate in this kind of behavior. It seems like we got severely hurt. You know they did what they did it's beside the point. I wanted to discover some new memes that PBS folks this week there's a couple interesting things that happened and want to discuss someone bring us in before we thank our supporters

1:13:48 uh... pbs had to some pros come on and the local station which is always does call the number of below you know it's like this not any local person this is like the whole national justice a national fascinating to me because then i haven't done the research yet but i'm going to do it does apple support pbs uh... that is apple a big supporter of npr in these things because they had this huge special which is a fundraiser that showed the Beatles Cirque du Soleil show and as soon as I saw it, I said wow the Beatles are sure getting a lot of publicity if you haven't noticed on your local news. And coincident with the iPod release of The Beatles stuff. No no the Cirque de Soleil show actually happened... That was the first thing that happened after Michael Jackson was killed murdered

1:14:38 uh... so what we've had now is we have to the circus ally in my life come out we have the new michael jackson album we have the beatles on itunes and we have the new michael jackson video game which sucks balls is horrible well this is a rating this guy after his death right yeah the circus only show god came out but he was never broadcast no no no this is new this is new it would be broadcast the show while Well they never could because those are exactly the rights that Michael Jackson held. Let's listen to it, but in the pitch there is two or three new memes I've never heard before where they're trying to sell the public you know... Don't forget this is a commercial entity trying to sell you It's like sending David Letterman who makes $15 million dollars a year plus directly with a check from CBS. It's like him asking you to send him money! It's ridiculous

1:15:32 but let's listen to the PBS pitch. Yeah, hit it. Scenes here at Cirque de Soleil Beatles Love it's an incredible production taking place at the Mirage in Las Vegas we're walking through the costume area as we speak we've just left The Wigs and were headed towards makeup It's amazing how many people it takes to bring this production to life but it's a collaborative effort A team of experts and artists that have collaborated to bring a vision a new vision to The Beatles legacy music And it introduces us new generation and how is it made possible because you're a part of that team. You are one of our collaborators, your right along with us when you call the number on your screen and pledge to level that is comfortable you make all this magic possible. You help us bring you this quintessential experience at PBS. You are the public in Public Television I hope you'll call now consider pledging at $90 level where we can thank you with copy of companion DVD. Alright so let me call first one collaborator

1:16:29 That would be the first, uh... I think, hold on a second. You there? Yeah! You dropped out for a second so the first meme is collaborator yeah you know what they used to do with collaborators in World War II They take them out into the streets shave their heads And shame them. They'd shame them, collaborators! Seriously a collaborator was someone who collaborated with the Nazis so you go be a collaborator with TVS So it's bad one but maybe it's associative for some people You're the public in public broadcasting I love that one The pitch that got me the most is the one which we should probably employ which is donate at a level which are comfortable Right

1:17:10 It's like whatever you're comfortable with, give that to us. Whatever you're comfortable with, give that to us. So the bottom line is this is disgusting to me we've got people making money off of dead Michael Jackson who owned the rights exactly this! The broadcast rights he had those rights This whole Cirque du Soleil thing happened the minute he was dead. They couldn't wait to jack it all up and then they got the Mirage in there, oh my... It's disgusting! It's disgusting how this passes for a public benefit. Yeah really so if you're uncomfortable with that with being a collaborateur, it's unbelievable I think perfect we gotta say it over and over again If you donate to PBS your collaborator

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Donor Thank You and Human Resource Updates

The hosts read donations and perform "de-douchings" for supporters who navigated the PayPal outage. They celebrate the birth of a listener's daughter, Olivia Hagadus, and acknowledge international donors from the Netherlands and the UK. They reiterate that the PayPal issues have significantly decreased the show's expected revenue.

donations· de-douching· olivia hagadus· antwerp· paypal

1:17:57 This is please do it. We can use this so let's thank the few people that actually got through to us this week and by the way we do have a post office box number that's on the DeVore org slash in a site that you can send directly to us, to bypass these systems. We got from W Work Norwell Massachusetts $129.50 please use the name W Work rather than my name 129.50 is one half of episode 259 couldn't swing the whole episode Number sorry, I'm late this year and it appreciated de douching. Oh yeah we do appreciate Giving at the level you've been comfortable at You've been D douche

1:18:40 His comfort level was at half of the episode number. Half of the episode number, by the way the episodes go up in value yes they do Robert Haggadahs Houston Texas 129 10 a donation of 1 of twelve nine ten to celebrate the birth of my daughter Olivia Haggadah this Thursday please give her a de-douching so she starts off life on the right foot here's a pre deducing and you've been t do st so i guess is a planned pregnancy that's pretty cool he says the uh... wasn't today they will be happy to have three-odd unit it is what tonight cities born today again yeah he says of the donating another shout out if she comes out with a penis well let's give me some carmen started meeting at this point or karma for not karma by the way i forgot to mention i think uh...

1:19:35 The guy who made a lot of those jingles is selling them and will give us part of the money. I think he's selling them for like $1 a pop? For the phone, for your... Yeah you can use him for whatever! I think they'd be great ringtones. Yeah ummm..I'll put it in the show notes. It wasn't like some weird no agenda name which is why I'm blanking on it but anyway yeah okay well we're happy that uh... we have a new human resource coming into the world yeah and by the way i love it if she comes out with the penis that's kind of crazy yeah well you never know mark crudge which might be able to pronounce better from antwerp uh... kraus he donated before i think krauf is famous name johan krauff, famous soccer player sixty nine bucks from him roland boulder

1:20:32 Den Bosch, Netherlands. Builder. Builder. Builder. Builder. 69 dollars coincidentally. Daniel Rondi. Ronde. Runde! Ronde. And also from Holland 66-66 and he says you'll stop being a douchebag uh... sixty bucks from michael baleen a from tinton falls new jersey greg maro amount pleasant uh... south carolina and then we have uh... david middlebrook at gardens uh... town aberdeenshire UK and then we have our knighthood layaways Tristan Lennon and Mike Westerfield coming in. And by the way, uh, Belina says that he does 60 bucks this is $5 per month subscription in one lump sum maybe I can put that on as a option because I'm going to pull the 99 dollar 99 cent thing at this it's not going anywhere it's wasting space. The nine or niner niner niner? Yeah, it just doesn't...it's not happening so

1:21:31 All right, so of course we don't know if Olivia was actually born Olivia today So I'm not gonna do the birthday shout out Robert Heggett is left to get back to us and let her know Let us know if it was a if it were Olivia or Chuck. Well you know Come on. He says no way the donates 1290s is the birthday of his daughter Olivia Hegedus this Thursday, right? But he says it but he doesn't know what whatever here we go Hello Olivia, brand new human resource. We welcome you to these Gitmo Nation states and that is on behalf of your dad Robert Hegedus who thinks you are Olivia and we of course congratulate you on your human resourcefulness! Yeah it doesn't I don't get it either but whatever yeah it's out of the way

1:22:24 Done so Somebody was since I'm hundred twenty nine dollars and ten cents as a prognostication of birth. That's fine Okay, I got at least he got through yeah that side by the way anyone who can try it again to work out or slash na Yeah, this uh... Dvorak.org slash NA channeldvorak dot com slash NA you know we're shh we came up short after a whole week because of the uh... Because most people actually start to give at levels they are comfortable with around the time of show like day before the show right? yeah right They want to be on top list whatever it is but that's when really starts happen and of course so the whole site was slow and it really didn't hurt

1:23:06 Yeah, I'm sure they would actually. I looked at the database that when you download the files from PayPal The sizes of the file are always like growing a little bit They were half now it's literally half and really half You know and I know this from from doing web server stuff for a long long time When you up the speed of your servers or, back in the day it was more bandwidth believe me. Back then we got a T1 wow! You got a T1 that's cool man but when you increase capacity guess what? You just get more traffic It literally is one for one so if you decrease it, you know people say oh well You know they just keep trying no it actually hurts. It's one for one I've seen this happen a million times So you get a site like PayPal slowing down then? It hurts us directly but it's okay Yeah, it's all right. Actually, you know We're so cool

1:24:03 It reminds me that we should have a Google backup as one of the donating holes. John, it doesn't matter because I can tell you right now at the end of the day our show is doomed! We're doomed, the show is doomed...we just sit and waitin' out Well, there is that element. But I think we got a couple years to go before they kill the internet and kill the show Or well... or kill me! Well you're right there in Starwacker territory so it could happen Yeah well guess what? I may be blonde but i don't have a new Mercedes-Benz And I don't live in Beverly Hills

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

COP 16 Climate Talks and Low-Carbon Roadmaps

EU Climate Commissioner Connie Hedegaard speaks at the COP 16 summit in Cancun about long-term "low-carbon strategies" for 2050. She emphasizes the need for "predictability" for investors in carbon markets. The hosts mock the lack of an audience at the summit and the focus on business interests over environmental science.

cop 16· cancun· connie hedegaard· carbon markets· 2050

1:24:43 Alright, so while all of the incredibly important Wikileaks stuff has been going on that seems to be the only thing that's covered in the news media. Of course we have COP 16 taking place right now which is the very important climate talks in Cancun and... Where there's no chance of snow It's very funny because I have a clip, two clips actually of this woman Hedderhardt who I think she is from Norway and remember she was announced as the new EU climate commissioner in Copenhagen? And she took our big applause on... you may not remember that but it did happen.

1:25:24 She took her big applause on stage and like oh, it's great And so they you know the way it works is very It's almost like C-SPAN when you look at a lot of this stuff and you literally see her pontificating on stage But there's no one in the audience except a couple of journalists. I swear to God on one of these videos There's a guy sitting there with a winter coat and earmuffs and a scarf Listening to her talk yeah listening to her talk. They just basically took some b-roll from the other conference! No, no it was actually Cancun maybe with the air conditioner turned up high or something I don't know so there's a couple of clips i want to play just see you understand what is happening because this is about

1:26:08 money and big business. And I want the people in the United States of Europe to pay particular close attention, it's also about one other thing but pay particular close attention to what is actually happening and what you yes you European taxpayer are paying for this is a biodiversity straight from Cancun From a European perspective it's very, very important to acknowledge... This is Hedegaard. So she's talking about how important it is all this biodiversity That yes negotiators are very important in this process the experts and technicians who really know everything

1:26:46 But in the end... Okay, so she's saying the experts know everything! The science is in but. But but but this is what here we're for the political side It's also about the political will to make the compromises So that is why it's very important to take care that now We have some very clear text with clear political choices when you put up targets long-term targets Long-term targets. Listen very closely what she's about to say. And you also send a very strong signals to investors Okay, investors... What kind of investors? I heard this clip You heard this clip Yeah it is interesting Okay so she saying we want to send a signal to investors What kind of investors? Investors in biodiversity of course! Investors and carbon credits all the other stuff

1:27:40 and you give them one of the things that they ask for the most, predictability. Yes because of course climate is so predictable we have the science in! And that is why we not only have set up targets for 2020 in Europe We are actually now on the Commission also preparing what we call a low-carbon strategy for 2050 Low carbon strategy for 2050? John are you on board? Are you onboard John?! ...roadmap for 2050 that will be presented in the spring together with an energy roadmap for 2050 and a white paper on transport just to say that sort of three major... which I'm sure would include some trains, more trains! issues will sort of be presented very much in parallel.

1:28:29 And I think it would be very worthwhile to try to consider can't we a bit faster apply standards globally instead of each region making their own standards. That, seen from the business perspective that would definitely also make sense I guess. Okay so it's all about business and she is of course all about business now what exactly does this mean? It means were going billions of euros, of your Euros. Hello people of United States and Europe! Your money and they're going to give it to scientists and investors and they are gonna give it away. Give it away! What we would very much like to see is a balance package coming out of Cancun I have a balanced package here for you. What does that mean? Well, balance means that there's something in it for developing countries as well as developed countries, for Kyoto parties as well as the convention track

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Carbon Market Scams and Global Standards

The discussion continues on the technicalities of carbon markets and the "transparency" of measuring emissions. Hedegaard expresses frustration that the U.S. Senate has not passed new climate legislation. The hosts characterize the entire carbon trading system as a derivative-style scam designed for financial institutions.

carbon markets· cap and trade· kyoto protocol· transparency· senate

1:29:21 and that also the different elements will be balanced, and that we will have not only sort of the adaptation part, the technology part, the forestry part done... Shoot this woman! I'm going to. I am about too. So some of them more tricky difficult issues... I want you just hear the numbers. It's like for instance the future of carbon markets. Carbon markets, all carbon markets! Carbon markets what does that mean John? Carbon markets. Carbon markets in other words that scam that cap-and-trade scam yeah it's like trading stuff around derivatives by the way there's a next talk one or our next talking points memos and there's one I came out that you should have opened if you subscribe to any of our stuff only half the people open their email oh really so let's classic but anyway well

1:30:07 Well let me finish this up. Let me just say something first which is that if you're serious about lowering the carbon emissions why don't you just cap them? Why do you trade them because investors need long-term stability and Wester's a 50% 2050 balance package Reform CDM, how to measure report and verify. We know that it sounds very technical Yes it sounds very technical so help me understand But is very very crucial because that's where the transparency lies The targets are not going to be... You're talking in riddles This what's great now let's get to the money The big issue and you all know why It's not because of the European Union

1:30:49 We are ready as we were last year in Copenhagen, not only unilaterally to reduce by 20% but also to deliver 30%. Others will also deliver But we know that no new legislation unfortunately came out of the American Senate. We know that not a lot of new things came out for other capitals and that is why I think that Cancun will have to address on the elements that I mentioned and some more than we could come back too. Okay, so let me just tell you what came out of Cancun because it came out... Are you with me John? Yeah barely

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Geoengineering as Plan B for Climate Change

With climate treaties failing, scientists in Cancun are discussing "Plan B," which involves large-scale geoengineering. Proposals include spraying sea salt into clouds to reflect sunlight and planting agave in arid lands to store carbon. The hosts link this to previous discussions about chemtrails and atmospheric manipulation.

geoengineering· cancun· paul crutzen· agave· maritime clouds

1:31:35 Don't be like that. Don't be this woman is she doesn't say anything? She's hard to understand she's an idiot That's the whole point and a P Reported from Cancun Mexico the following, and this is where this is all going The whole point is it's it's a quagmire They don't know what to do with it they've got seven billion euros 7 billion euros that they're investing in whatever this biodiversity crap is But now the AP reports that the taboo has been broken in Cancun, Mexico. Paul Crutzen Nobel Prize winning atmospheric scientist told the Associated Press that it looks just like since we can't put and remember what we read in the WikiLeaks cable since we can't get anything together Since Europe can't get anything together since America can't do anything in the Senate We have to move to plan B What do you think plan B is John?

1:32:33 I don't know, somehow it's going to screw us. I know that. Geoengineering! Oh... Right here and it's- So you're telling us a Shaggy Dog story here? You led into this bio-into this geoengineering thing which is a callback to the last show we had. Yeah that's exactly what I did because very funny because it came out this week right here in the whole article and you can read for yourself its like well We have to step up our investment in research, in spraying things in the atmosphere. Sky, sea land... The ideas vary from spraying ocean clouds with sea salt to make them brighter and more reflective to planting vast arid lands with agave the tequila plant which I think is a good

1:33:19 Yeah, well at least that's one good thing coming out of this. Which stores carbon for years and grows where climate-friendly forests can't! So they're upping all the money is going now exactly as we talked about on the last show is going into research here in the Colorado Center is researching the brightening of maritime strato cumulus clouds with seawater droplets funding is not far off I mean it's like... Here it is the british report from the british house of commons committee we need geoengineering as plan b if nations fail to forge agreement on a binding treaty terrain in greenhouse gases or just got a few nukes that's plan b well interesting you bring that up so here is uh... and no eighty eight scientists in cancun national ocean of ocean out uh... help me

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Population Reduction and Economic Growth Madness

A scientist at the Cancun summit argues that the true solution to climate change is global population reduction. The crowd's enthusiastic response to the idea of "ending the madness" of population growth is highlighted. The hosts compare these suggestions to China's one-child policy and "biodiversity fees."

population reduction· abortion· china· economic growth· madness

1:34:14 National Oceanographic. AA, what's the AA part? Atmospheric something. So he has the true solution I'd be remiss as a scientist who studied this if i didn't mention the following two things The first is that Most importantly, we need to do as a society in this country and globally whatever we can to reduce population. Yeah! Let's reduce the population! This is what these guys are always about. Now listen to the crowd at the end of this clip though... The crowd goes wild! We need to get rid of populations. Kill people! Yay!

1:34:56 What I mean by this is not just in the developing world where it's a known fact that empowering women has been a proven strategy to make healthier, wealthier and smaller families. Abortion, abortion! Kill people. Additionally and especially in our country and other developed countries we have a population problem because our per capita emissions are higher than anybody yet we continue to have this is true in every industrialized country lots of tax benefits encouragements to have more and more

1:35:32 Our whole economic philosophy is based on growth and growth of our population. This madness has to end! It has to stop, we need to kill some people! The madness has to end! Stop the madness! Oh, so uh... Stop the insanity. But yeah but this is all gonna happen we're gonna have the you can't have brothers and sisters that's what's going to happen Yeah well China has been playing with it They wouldn't be playing with it! It's law over there isn't it? Yeah well you can get around it You could actually pay a fee and even have a second kid You could oh really Well yeah you gotta play a biodiversity fee Anyway let's just close out these Biodiversity

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Bill Clinton at Salesforce and Haiti Redevelopment

Bill Clinton spoke at the Salesforce Dreamforce conference, promoting high-speed rail and discussing his fund's work in Haiti. The Clinton Bush Haiti Fund reportedly gave $800,000 to Architecture for Humanity. The hosts question where the billions in promised aid have actually gone, noting that much of it flows to NGOs rather than Haitians.

bill clinton· salesforce· haiti· high-speed rail· architecture for humanity

1:36:11 Curiously absent from anything this week in biodiversity is Harrison Ford. Well before you go to that because I want to lead into Harrison Ford and all the stuff because you're gonna go right to Hades riots, I hope! It's on the list yes uh... hey guys this comes from one of our producers matt lacey who came out from australia's in the bay area right now he was at that salesforce conference a dream force and last night in the keynote speech from bill clinton interestingly his flight was late by the way is he flying commercial i'm just saying it's a flight was led to be a patted down by the way do you know that the indian ambassador got their head up and down as an issue i guess it apologizes for the ncl abhors so sorry this happens she was apparently the ambassador was

1:36:56 Pissed yeah, lightly because meanwhile what about apologizing to the American public? Huh no no we apologize for indignitaries But we don't apologize in the American public for this same indignity wait listen John back off man. I'm a scientist okay Interestingly his flight was late and he started off by saying how it was the worst flight of his life oh During the speech they don't like Gulf Streams the way they used to I tell you during this yeah, really give me a break during this speech He then managed to drop in high-speed rail twice saying how it would fix up the country. Yeah, baby he also included global warming saying he found it unbelievable that Politicians who didn't believe in it get elected. It's unbelievable. It's um. Okay? What is going on oh

1:37:48 Last but not least, he talked about his fund and Haiti. Uh-huh? Saying how they've taken in loads of money... ...but mentioned that they're involved in redevelopment! Right. Good one, you'll see if we can find a video Thanks Matt So yeah so I will follow on that the Clinton Bush Haiti fund has given a whopping $800,000 to architecture for humanity which apparently is opening an office in Haiti eight hundred thousand dollars amazing amount of money considering the billions that uh... were promised has been taken in and it's not even going to the haitians is going on right now it's going to another nga yeah and a yes uh... haiti of course said that people are writing there's a and they did peacekeepers are doing their best to keep the peace by at what do you think shooting shooting them by shooting them uh... so i could uh... i could do lots of stories about that but i thought a little funnier would be

1:38:46 This article here that I'm bringing up from dailyfinance.com, Haiti's best hotels thrive amid disaster of earthquakes aftermath It's such a beautiful story. The vista from the private terrace of the John Barrymore suite at the Hotel Olofsson in Port-au-Prince is a vision of verdant hills and a brilliant blue bay, a dramatic postcard that reveals not a hint of the mountains of rubble and trash left over from Haiti's catastrophic January 12th earthquake nor the escalating cholera epidemic nor the slums just beyond the hotel's gate

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Luxury Hotels in Post-Earthquake Haiti

Daily Finance reports that luxury hotels in Port-au-Prince are thriving and fully booked by foreign aid workers and diplomats. While 1.3 million Haitians live under blankets in slums, embassy and World Bank employees lounge by hotel pools. The hosts point out the stark contrast between the "disaster" reported in the media and the reality for international workers.

haiti· port-au-prince· hotel olofsson· world bank· anderson cooper

1:37:48 Last but not least, he talked about his fund and Haiti. Uh-huh? Saying how they've taken in loads of money... ...but mentioned that they're involved in redevelopment! Right. Good one, you'll see if we can find a video Thanks Matt So yeah so I will follow on that the Clinton Bush Haiti fund has given a whopping $800,000 to architecture for humanity which apparently is opening an office in Haiti eight hundred thousand dollars amazing amount of money considering the billions that uh... were promised has been taken in and it's not even going to the haitians is going on right now it's going to another nga yeah and a yes uh... haiti of course said that people are writing there's a and they did peacekeepers are doing their best to keep the peace by at what do you think shooting shooting them by shooting them uh... so i could uh... i could do lots of stories about that but i thought a little funnier would be

1:38:46 This article here that I'm bringing up from dailyfinance.com, Haiti's best hotels thrive amid disaster of earthquakes aftermath It's such a beautiful story. The vista from the private terrace of the John Barrymore suite at the Hotel Olofsson in Port-au-Prince is a vision of verdant hills and a brilliant blue bay, a dramatic postcard that reveals not a hint of the mountains of rubble and trash left over from Haiti's catastrophic January 12th earthquake nor the escalating cholera epidemic nor the slums just beyond the hotel's gate

1:39:23 that it is unbelievable please realize this word this piece run this ran in daily finance uh... so uh... despite the uh... the advisory which of course is a you know like all u should not to stay there and haiti by this historic hotel which began its life as a private home serve later as a u s marine hospital during the american occupation has been fully booked since january twelfth at deals but they've got some great deals uh... yeah i know it's been fully booked um and of course uh... you know we have a one point three million haitians living there under blankets and that which we were not allowed to send by the way he won't let this time the blanket say dot justin really said that i think it was uh... well see who are right now all we need from people if u can be part of the medical team or search-and-rescue team

1:40:20 We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water, just send your cash." 30 minutes and a world away the Hotel Carib with its soaring brick-and-marble lobby intricate iron inlays and swanky bar is widely considered Port-au-Prince's most upscale hotel this is different hotel John it reopened his doors in October and on recent weekend foreign workers sunbathe around the swimming pool shaded by eucalyptus trees It's luxurious by international standards, not just by Haitian standards says a US embassy employee lounging poolside with his girlfriend. A World Bank staffer visiting from Washington DC that is his girlfriend. See the U.S. Embassy employee with his girlfriend from the World Bank

1:41:02 People. Nice! Get a clue what's going on here. Yeah, people get a clue. Hello? By the way after the earthquake 1.3 million dollars was spent for a firm to draw plans to retrofit the hotel to California building codes So that's really and by the way when Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper if he ever gets back down there again where do you think he'll be staying He'll be standing there probably with that guy. Yeah, not with... Right point made good point Since you also brought it up I'm losing it now yeah, that's what you brought up and here we go here it is All aboard trains good planes bad I only got one story

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P. Diddy and the High-Speed Rail Program

The hosts analyze P. Diddy's new album "Last Train to Paris" and its associated marketing as a propaganda tool for high-speed rail. Diddy's website features a French train ticket, signaling a shift from his usual themes of private jets and luxury cars. This is presented as evidence of a coordinated "MKUltra" style program to influence youth.

p. diddy· high-speed rail· last train to paris· mkultra· diddy dirty money

1:41:57 uh... but blew me away now remember it is hill and nolten huge p r who is a really working for the high-speed rail we've got everybody on board everybody agrees the science isn't but we need to actually We need to get the young people more on board, John. How can we do that? Let me think who do we have... Not Clooney no he's in this Darfur uh... Miley Cyrus No! Give me another guy who is a... Another guy? Justin Bieber No! He is too young and you know we need someone with credibility Someone like you for them get to the vodka drinking people Obama No let's get Diddy There you go Diddy Yeah Diddy John please goto didydirtmoney dot com

1:42:40 uh... he did the off daddy who by the way i think is vodka uh... ads are hilarious it's dvd dirt money dot com are you going and try and take dvd dirt money dot com he has a new album out promoted which drops it drops this weekend or how do you know that there is dvd eighty-two white yes indeed dirty closer to be dirty money dot com at my mistake dvd dirty money dot com So it's like, yo man! Let's like whoa how we get well yo brother he drops down into this. Now look at what splashes up What happens they have forced P Diddy as a part of their MKUltra program diddydirtymoney.com I got nothing here diddy dirty money dot com what are you talking about? Oh i got him with the T this time there you go diddy dirtymoney dot com jeez They got him to do... That'd be links next time The uh not only

1:43:38 Is the first single that drops, yo. Called Last Train to Paris But up pops right there a train ticket on the homepage of DiddyDirtyMoney.com And you actually are requested to enter your information on the ticket and the ticket is in French! It's from London to Paris it's the high speed rail And they've, I mean of all the things Diddy you know he can talk about you know Cristal and jets and everything but no Diddy's talking about trains. Now tell me that isn't part of the entire program? Oh the guy is a money maker He's getting paid for this of course Totally! And look at first class by the way First Class Do you see the ticket No i cant find the ticket

1:44:33 You're horrible. It's alright. I hit the homepage, I got a picture Diddy Dirty Dirty Money says last train to Paris and you didn't get a whole diddy dirty money mailing list thing pop up with the ticket? No actually that was blocked Oh okay Well that's something did cry here it comes I've been blocked and looking at oh yeah really a reservation in France to compose the last of their last 16th to train. Right one adult so an adult So anyway, so Diddy totally on board the program. Very proud of him Good job there Diddy I so much like his vodka commercials this one is just irking me a little bit All aboard trains good planes bad

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera on Military Recruitment

Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera criticize a University of Washington professor who compared military recruitment to "predatory grooming." During the segment, O'Reilly incorrectly claims that soldiers can simply "leave" the military if they don't like it. The hosts mock this ignorance of military law and the reality of AWOL consequences.

bill o'reilly· geraldo rivera· military recruitment· awol· university of washington

1:45:24 So I've got a couple of clips that one of them is a little long but it's so good. Is this the end-the-show thing or is that something else? No, no the end-the-show is an end-the-show thing you can play it or not. The end-the-show thing is a judge Napolitano who apparently feels that his show is not going to be on long enough so he has actually three rants at editorials put together as one but anyway the one I'm thinking by the way the length of the end-of-show clip three minutes and 33 seconds now we have to play it it's a sign yeah that's signed from God nailed it. This is called Bill Riley at his best and this is a classic example of him trying to bully someone out of their job, just so a woman who was an assistant professor the University Washington made the comment that the military uses the same techniques predatory sales techniques as predators do and when she says predator she means people like

1:46:18 real estate sale or real estate people, insurance salesmen probably pedophiles. The whole thing she just generalizes that the military uses these hard-selling techniques to groom kids into buying into one thing or another So, O'Reilly finds this incredibly offensive because the military is so great even though I don't see him over there fighting. But it's another point and he bullies... He got Geraldo on who was trying to do... And Geraldo starts to... This is why the clip is so good It's a little long but I'm trying to set up so you can put up with it. Geraldo starts to wax and wane over the military

1:46:54 It's almost laughable. And then at the very end, there is the punchline which makes your jaw hit the floor is what O'Reilly kidding? He doesn't even know a basic fact about joining the military. The behaviors of grooming children to agree to enter the military are the same behaviors that other predatory groomers engage in Now we call Miss Hagopian, and she hung up on us. So we turn to our pal Geraldo and here he is. So she's a loon right? Not only hung up but probably cursed you out. I think what she says is dishonorable

1:47:34 I think it's disgusting. I think it is demonstrably false, as the military says outrageous and offensive more interesting though Bill Is how the University of Washington says they this spokesman for the University of Washington where Professor Hagopian is employed called it extreme and absurd her analogy And it is to compare the behavior of military recruiters many of whom saved children stuck in the ghetto and give them a way of life you know Here it goes. Hey, you know you're stuck in the in the ghetto That's right. We gonna get you out of the ghetto son and get your head blown off This is just becomes you can't not laugh at that listening to this guy go on It's just hilarious here we got a senior military correspondent war correspondent he after the last decade or so it has been my honor to see thousands

1:48:27 thousands of youngsters, hundreds of whom come from the hard life in the urban areas. Oh hold on this has got to be leading into The Dream Act or something this has gotta be part of that propaganda. No it doesn't! That's a joke of it! To get recruited into the military and their lives are transformed its wonderful They get a decent paycheck, they get a pension. They get a future their families are getting taken care of too to suggest that what the military recruiter is doing is luring young children teenagers high school students into a life where they're going to be committing suicide with they're gonna be committing crime with her life is gonna go off

1:49:08 Really? Yeah, where you're using depleted uranium so you get some kind of cancer and they're taking away your health care. And they kick you out! They don't take care of you and they screw you and make it go back over and over again. I know plenty guys that joined up because they were literally talked into by these great sales guys. Why deny it? That's just the way it is. What is this denial?! Let's listen to some more of this crap beyond exaggeration so what it says beyond exaggeration yeah really really and what is the university gonna do about she's not a tenured professor well I don't think they can do anything she has the right to say or you know okay that's interesting really you know take a position where everyone wants me you don't think they can she can my university into everything she's in a lesson professor not fire standards

1:49:59 of academic behavior. If you have somebody that misguided who is absolutely not telling the truth, because as you pointed out this is an opportunity and nobody forces anybody to stay in the military... You don't like it? You can leave! They're not forcing you to stay in there okay so if they're... What?! If you don't like it you could- It's called AWOL! What!? If you don't like it- Play that last clip again it's unbelievable Wait a minute, did he actually say if you don't like it you can leave? Yes! Okay. There's an opportunity and nobody forces anybody to stay in the military You don't like it? You can leave. Who is this guy kidding?!

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CSI New York and the "Un-American" Professor

A clip from CSI: NY depicts a "conspiracy theorist" professor being labeled as anti-American for discussing water fluoridation and chemtrails. The hosts identify this as media programming designed to marginalize anyone questioning government narratives. They contrast the fictional professor's "un-American" views with the reality of geoengineering plans.

csi ny· conspiracy theories· fluoridation· chemtrails· propaganda

1:50:40 It's funny actually because there was another little thing in there that I picked up on Because he was saying well, you know You can't say this crap at a university right because you're you're crazy And if you're accredited then she should be fired. Right? Is that basically what yeah, basically so this is a throwback to a CSI New York Which it says exactly this same thing. Here's the ministry of truth about crazy, crazy professors at University What are you doing here? Hey. I think they may know a little something about your poison victim And i'm here to prove a man innocent I got a little intel on professor Scott He has a history of espousing various conspiracy theories sharing them with his students scarred him into a little trouble Every university is at least one unconventional professor Oh come on Peyton this guy's ideas here

1:51:37 Totally anti-american look at this water fluoridation Tsunami bombs chemtrails what our chemtrail some people believe that vapor exhaust from aircraft are actually dangerous biochemicals dispersed into the air Anyway, it's un-American. It's un-American to say anything about about fluoridation or bio-t- or chemtrails or anything. It's unamerican! And by the way, some people believe that water vapor... The way she said it, water vapour from airplanes are actually chemicals No its called geoengineering and its plan B Well, you stay in the military. You don't like it you can leave. They're forcing you to stay there Okay all right sorry message to all boots on the ground leave now yeah just quit Leave I will like it in Afghanistan you got a bad assignment. You don't like your CEO Just quit you know what John? I will take all the money we earn on this show and charter airplanes for all of the Boots on the ground and the ships at sea to leave now if they can actually leave now get on that get on

1:52:39 the plane can leave now! Leave now! Guess what? What? They can't leave now. But Bill O'Reilly and Geraldo said they could leave now. Oh, Bill O'Reilly doesn't apparently know anything about the military you don't... You can't it's not a job! It's not like a job where you sign up for a way to say I quit this job. Of course then you have the problem that is the problem how do you get out of uh you know Kabul and get back to the US because they're gonna fly you back if you quit But this is like, why would anybody even think this? You do not sign up for the military so you can just quit at the drop of a hat like he claims. Where does this come from? Where does it get into his head to even suggest such a thing? I'm totally baffled by the whole thing. Is he trying to sucker people into thinking that this is true so they join up because they have trouble recruiting

1:53:35 I mean, i don't know. What? I don't get it Do you think either of them have actually served? I don't think so... I doubt it! They'd be bragging about it constantly Are you kidding?! Yeah! If they were corporals for two years they would be like, oh when I was in the military No, Geraldo got a chair on his nose That's his service to humanity and we don't want to be mean anybody out there that's stuck in the middle of nowhere. On the contrary, I wanna save everyone for when we really need them like not this bull crap yeah that's the point We have National Guard people that are overseas they're supposed to be nationally, they're supposed to be here! They're not supposed to be over there That's the Army's job So i got a cute little clip from

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Special Victims Unit and "Creep Tweets"

A Law & Order: SVU clip introduces the concept of "creep tweets," where neighborhood watch groups use Twitter to track sexual predators. The hosts suggest this is another form of media conditioning to encourage citizen surveillance and vigilante behavior, fitting the "See Something, Say Something" theme.

svu· creep tweets· vigilante· twitter· sexual predators

1:54:26 special victims unit which had all kinds of high-tech stuff going on in the show but this little bad acting a clip is kind of interesting because it brings in another little meme about you know stuff that we're all doing on a day to day basis play creep twits oh I just not want expected okay this clown really on the job Al McCutcheon from The 1A he lied his way past the desk sergeant said he was here for prison transfer You make it a habit to beat up guys in custody, Officer McCutcheon? Look I'm sorry but my daughter's in the same swim class as the girl who got raped two nights ago. My Carla's had her over for sleepovers when I heard you guys finally caught this son of a bitch... You decide to tune him up! I didn't decide anything I just saw red Yeah well the ass you just kicked is your own career I know

1:55:19 Should have never signed up for those tweets. Tweets? From who? Watch group in our neighborhood, they send out info about sexual predators call them creep tweets Oh my god! Creep tweets are an internet communication, your honor. One that triggered a despicable act of vigilante violence against my client and by a police officer. The man practically broke my jaw Assaulted in custody Ms West? Alright well we can look forward to that this is part if you see something beat the guy's ass

1:55:55 Yeah, this is part of the whole scheme. I think they're actually trying to promote this idea to be honest about it's kind of done in an awkward way but... Again we now have documented proof that our American... Say something say something! Our American media is influencing not just Americans here at home but people in Saudi Arabia and all over the world It's great So we do okay. I got a couple clips then well way before you do that, I got one short minor clip That's just kind of it's just off the top It was a good segue to whatever you want to do I'm sure it is yeah I would I was taking one of these clips and I caught the end of a clip And I and it just sounds so funny by itself. It's a it's a promotion For one of the net for one of the channels But it sounds like there's a subtle message hidden here play this speed channel promotion

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Anwar al-Awlaki and the New Face of Terror

ABC News reports on the "polished" propaganda videos of American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen. The media highlights his "corporate" look and use of professional microphones. The hosts argue that Awlaki is being positioned as the new Bin Laden to justify military operations in Yemen and internet censorship.

anwar al-awlaki· yemen· al-qaeda· abc news· youtube

1:56:46 I always have to guess what you're gonna tell me to play. Here we go. Get your heart racing on speed! Take speed, take speed... Isn't that what it says? Yeah let's listen to it again. My hearts racing on speed alright. This is like talking about your neuro-linguistic programming That's great. That's great. I love that So we know that ABC News has a new news president. So I'm eyeing ABC News very closely, you know usually it was NBC of course had the tie-in with General Electric and we know that the CEO of General Electric is good buddies with Obama

1:57:33 And so now we have ABC News, the new president of ABC News. His sister is a special advisor to the President which someone sent us an email which is pretty high position actually to be a special advisor So they're all over a Lockie Now, let me just tell you a little bit about Al-Aqi. So we need a new Bin Laden because of course the old Bin Laden is dead He's not around anymore We don't know No he's in a cave somewhere Maybe never existed for all we know We also need it to be in Yemen Alright so we went from Iraq to Afghanistan and then Sudan Pakistan Yeah when were going to move into Sudan that next right But Al-Aqi has a new production By the way Al-Aqi is an American citizen

1:58:16 right from phoenix or something like that american citizen and as and a couple things you need to know about him uh... one is uh... the president has said but you may kill him so i don't know about you i don't care what uh... what's going on but uh... typically with american citizens uh... you can just be ordered to be killed by the president he would write yet yeah i know it was just a process yet and and the court recently overturned objection to that It's all in the show notes. So that is very distressing, you know? You're an American citizen... The president said we could kill you! And this guy may be the worst guy in the world but that's not how the system supposed to work. So Awlaki he now he is

1:59:00 Not only is he the new CEO of al-qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula. He also is a the The CEO of the Taliban, he's the press relations manager And they're onto him because I mean they've really moving up in John I gotta tell you these this a lucky guy. I mean they are getting really sophisticated because they use two microphones now for his videos Please pay attention to ABC News Ministry of Truth about Qaeda in Yemen Linked to multiple plots including those bombs on cargo plane forgot to tell you everything is linked to this guy Christmas pants bomber, shoe bomber cartridge bomber, Christmas tree bomber every bomber. Boob bomber it's all a lockings Martha Raddatz who covers defense and security tells us his latest video is a polished production

1:59:50 America Satan, but the video itself looks almost corporate and today investigators are examining the well-produced propaganda tape to see what clues it offers. First compare it to the last time Osama bin Laden was seen on video. The Awlaki image is sharp, the background wood lattice, a glass top desk and executives leather chair and not one but two microphones O'Loughy has made his name with recruiting videos. Investigators from New York Congressman Anthony Weiner's office found more than 700 videos on YouTube, with an alarming 3.5 million hits. Weiner said the videos facilitated the recruitment of homegrown terror. YouTube took down some of the most defensive. But it is still incredibly easy to find videos of O'Loughy on YouTube you just type in his name

2:00:44 I think we need to regulate that internet, that YouTube thing. We gotta turn out some videos! And you get hundreds... Even thousands of results the overall theme of the tapes is that America is waging war against Muslims and must be stopped while some of those checking out the sites are no doubt curiosity seekers because We're tracking who's checking out this I shall say Oh Lockie has inspired terror before from the mass shootings at Fort Hood Ford hood to the failed Christmas Day bombing Christmas day bombing I'll run into a locket. And investigators fear he will do so again.

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Awlaki's 2001 Pentagon Lunch and Media Ousters

A 2001 report is revisited, confirming that Anwar al-Awlaki was invited to the Pentagon for lunch just weeks after the 9/11 attacks. The hosts suggest this indicates he is a CIA asset or part of a long-term intelligence operation. They speculate that the recent change in leadership at ABC News is related to suppressing such inconvenient facts.

pentagon· anwar al-awlaki· 9/11· cia· yemen

2:01:20 The video could provide important clues but wherever that tape was made, Awlaki has likely moved on to yet another safe haven in Yemen where it is clearly easy to hide. Oh so easy to hide in Yemen! Now before the new president of ABC News came in, ABC news actually slipped up we're going play something from October 26th because what you have to understand is two months after 9-11 Aulaki was invited to the Pentagon for lunch. Okay? The guy who's number one now, he is number one! He has got the big foam finger. He is number one. He was invited to the Pentagon for lunch and somehow they just let him go. They just let him eat and let him leave. Amazing how that works. Let us listen... You do not think he was like

2:02:08 Well, it couldn't be he's like CIA or something John. Do you think that maybe he got some message there? Like here is what you need to do...or was it just really a coincidence? Let us listen to the ABC News report. American born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki linked to the 9 11 hijackers. Oh I'm sorry! He was also part of 911. Yeah, I forgot. He's awesome If and when he is found in Yemen. Could it get any more obvious? Yemen. He's hiding out somewhere, at least we know it is somewhere in... YEMEN! John is now confirming... Listen listen... John, this isn't so obvious isn't it?! If and when he was found in... YEMEN

2:02:59 the pentagon is now confirming that a lot he was invited to our private lunch at the pentagon just weeks after the hijackers he knew had slammed a plane into that building and just days after he had been interviewed by the fbi i am dumbfounded how can this happen we let him slip through our fingers In Yemen. Let him slip through our fingers, we fed the guy! In Yemen. We gave the guy lunch!! He was invited as part of the Pentagon's outreach to Muslims. Outreach to terrorists in Yemen! The Pentagon now says it was a small group put together by the Defense Department's General Counsel, he was vetted but clearly not very thoroughly. And an embarrassing breach thanks Martha Radice for that update. What an embarrassing breach let's move along to Yemen

2:03:59 So, you know just please understand this there is no terror the end I'm sorry. There is terror we're afraid of things that don't exist It's like this guy this totally made-up guy who was an American he dined with at the Pentagon it means Please get a clue This is like CIA and they link the guide to everything in Yemen And right now it couldn't be any better because he's in Yemen This is nuts! I mean, please. Hello people? I can't say it any other way than you need to wake up from your dream sleep in Yemen. Wow

2:04:40 So anyway, so you won't be hearing that anymore because you know that was October 26 we got and that was clearly Whoever was president of news then is out. Oh, that's why they ousted him Cory of course Can't do that story you idiot That's not how it works in Yemen nutball You're out Bring in a new guy. I have the family to feed! What do we have? Hold on, hey you special assistant you got anybody? Yeah i got my brother Oh good put him in oh my goodness Well let's hope we get some income from between now and Sunday that was a terrible situation

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Talking Points Memo and Show Sign-off

The hosts discuss upcoming "Talking Points Memos" for listeners, focusing on high-speed rail and geoengineering. They encourage supporters to try donating again despite PayPal issues. The show concludes with the hosts jokingly signing off from "Yemen" before transitioning to a final editorial clip.

talking points· high-speed rail· diddy· yemen· sign-off

2:05:27 Well, if you tried and you gave up to please try again. Or something I don't know we definitely need We did send out the talking points memo when everyone to check it out at least get a copy take a copy It's a little note asking for some help and then the talking points mail were gonna have another one We're trying to do one a month or more often pricing out something as a Christmas greeting too But we'll try to do one talking point memo a month because we have enough items i think we can go a year we got twelve things that were thematic with we get the trains bad planes good we get the uh... g well we had to do we have arguments for geoengineering we got arguments with mostly quotes from things right we had there's a number of stings that we haven't said we have to do a little special show which discusses are missing the primer yes also was so what is this so what will the next the next talking points will be

2:06:18 I don't know what you think it should be. I think trains good, planes bad. Trains good, planes bad? I think that's a good one because that's all over Yeah and people can get in the discussion we can have five or six points that are just why this why that Why don't we time it give it two weeks cause in 2 weeks Diddy's last train to Paris will be number 1 on the charts We could time it for that and we can release it then. Hey, notice this? Notice this train thing from the guy who exclusively talks about Kristall on his jets now he's taking trains? Yeah. Give me a break! Please come on I'm not stupid well... I guess anyway end of show clip will be uh this three minute and 33 second clip of uh Judge Napolitano show doesn't matter I just like the fact that it's no relation to Lucy

2:07:07 Or Janet for that matter. Alright, so yes, Dvorak dot org slash NA channel dvorak dot com slash NA or noagendershow dot com go to the donation page If you tried and had to give up because of PayPal being DDO-est then please consider trying again because it is hurting us And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Yemen I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley in Yemen, I am John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.

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Judge Napolitano Editorial on TSA and WikiLeaks

In a final editorial, Judge Andrew Napolitano rails against the TSA's violation of the Fourth Amendment and the government's attempt to redefine journalism to target WikiLeaks. He argues that the government treats citizens' earnings as its own property and calls for a return to constitutional limits on power.

judge andrew napolitano· tsa· wikileaks· taxes· constitution

2:08:17 Does the government work for us or do we work for the government? Are our rights guaranteed by the Constitution and laws, or they exist subject to whim of government bureaucrats. Tonight The TSA WikiLeaks and Taxes Why is the government looking for excuses to violate the constitution Last month the TSA claimed that it is like a health inspector at restaurant And thus can look anyone's body that wants as if were looking for flies on piece cheese It interferes with private enterprise at its most critical juncture, the airlines as they are receiving their passengers and it tells them who they can put on THEIR planes. It simply refuses to abide by the Constitution even though every employee there has taken an oath to uphold it!

2:09:01 and it insists it can keep us safer than the airlines themselves can. Never mind that the TSA has yet to find a single box cutter or weapon or bomb in all of its porn and groping, never mind that its backscanners cannot detect explosive powder on or under the skin, and never mind that is terrified young children and folks who have just had surgery. Listen to Cousin Janet! If you don't like what we do take a bus Do that and you'll find the TSA at the bus. The WikiLeaks folks are not real journalists, say members of Congress from both sides of the aisle. That's because the big government party – the one that includes almost all Republicans and almost all Democrats – Congressman Ron Paul and Connie Mack are exceptions…the party that thinks it can write any law and tax any event...the one that recognizes no limits on its power still believes we work for the government! And it can tell us what it wants us to know and keep us in the dark

2:10:00 about what it doesn't want us to know. A journalist is one who reports, writes or transmits newsworthy information that's straight out of Webster's unabridged dictionary It's not news that the government likes its not news that its good or bad it is whatever is newsworthy and newsworthy means whatever people are interested in Are people interested in what WikiLeaks has reported? Hundreds of millions of us are If we define journalists that the government hates and fears as non-journalists, will they lose the protections of the law?

2:10:36 Only in the weird Orwellian world of big government. Not in a world where the Constitution is abided and rights are guaranteed And yesterday we saw many Democrats rip into the president because he favors raising some tax rates but not all of them They speak as if our money were theirs, and they can decide how much of it they'll let us keep They have it backwards. Our earnings belong to us, the Constitution says so! The presumption is that we get to keep what we earn and that the government must leave us alone! Where does the government come off claiming you can take whatever it wants? If you wouldn't let a thief take your money and give it away if you wouldn't let your neighbors take your money and give it away why would you let the government do so?! You know what they'd do with their money three quarters of it

2:11:24 Three quarters of what they take from us goes to welfare payments, wealth transfers or the paying back loans taken out by previous governments. Will this tax and spend madness ever end? Only when folks who love freedom and respect private property get in the government We are your night watchmen Regrettably the government gives us much too watch