Episode 257 · Thursday, 2 December 2010

The Moment of Truth

Global power structures fracture as WikiLeaks exposes diplomatic secrets, the Senate expands DHS food oversight, and austerity measures loom under the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 257

About this episode

Julian Assange faces an Interpol red notice and calls for execution from media figures like Bill O'Reilly and Dennis Miller following the massive WikiLeaks document release. While the State Department scrambles to overhaul computer systems and restrict internal access, the Pentagon downplays the leaks as embarrassing but not a threat to American power. The fallout reveals a widening rift between diplomatic niceties and the raw military dominance asserted by Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

Leaked cables from Spanish judge Jose Grinda-Gonzalez characterize Russia as a virtual mafia state where government and organized crime are indistinguishable. Vladimir Putin recently appeared on Larry King Live to defend Russia's 2018 World Cup bid while revealing significant logistical support for NATO forces in Afghanistan. Domestically, the Senate passed the Food Safety Modernization Act S.510, granting the Department of Homeland Security unprecedented authority over organic farmers. Simultaneously, the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform released its Moment of Truth report, proposing austerity measures including a higher Social Security retirement age and new gasoline taxes.

TSA VIPER teams are now expanding airport-style security to bus terminals in Tampa to search for bulk cash and explosives. In a bizarre turn, the Department of Homeland Security has begun mailing green cards in Faraday cage envelopes to block RFID tracking. The episode concludes with a look at the Hollywood Whackers theory involving Randy Quaid and the suspicious murder of publicist Ronnie Chasen.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

WikiLeaks Media Coverage and State Department Cable Terminology

The reaction to the WikiLeaks document release is characterized as more significant than the actual content of the leaked papers. Discussion focuses on the archaic use of the term "cables" by the State Department to describe internal electronic communications, drawing parallels to obsolete Telex technology. The hosts suggest the media is over-sensationalizing the event while ignoring other news.

wikileaks· julian assange· interpol· state department· cables· telex

00:00 Inventing the wheel in advance in case we have to. Huh? Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, December 2nd, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 257. This is no agenda. Looking over here while you look over there and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, and the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I'm the man wanted by Interpol, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm also known as KJ6LNG, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! KJ6LNG.

00:41 In the morning to you, Ham. In the morning to you and all ships at sea. And all of our boots on the ground and of course our human resources in the chatroom at noagendachat.net all charged up ready to go the way their government loves them and needs them. We need you human resources. Hey John. So there's some news this week. You know it's funny I got up my usual 530 this morning. 350 individual stories that I tagged that I you know then I kind of had to go through and remember them and look at things. I spent three hours last night trying to look at things other than WikiLeaks.

01:22 Oh, you're talking about Wiki... Oh, I thought the big news was that Michael Douglas is playing Liberace. Yeah, I'll give you one. No, because, you know, I'm seeing all... every single news channel, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, Interpol, WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, Interpol, kill him, arrest him. And I'm like, something is going on. And there was so much going on. I have a bunch of clips, but what I got out of it was the fact that it's the reaction to this is more interesting than the actual event. Well, indeed, because the first thing you and I are kind of trained to do is to go look at the leak, to go look at the papers. And I'm like, brother, how boring is this?

02:09 It's like first of all lots of stuff in there that we've been talking about for six months none of it deemed top-secret. It's all classified or do not you know it's all bogus is like memos is like little notes the teacher the teacher their cables and Cables what the hell's a cable I still don't get that I think a cable is like it goes through a secure cable I guess it's kind of like a cable It's a cable it's a cable is synonymous with Telex remember the Telex machine those days are over they don't do cables anymore Do they don't email this stuff around no apparently they do cables cable they have some kind of internal system and

02:51 It's called a computer network. Who are they kidding with this cable nonsense? Well, that's what they call it still a cable. Oh Confidential cable came in a break grow up with the program check the calendar 2010s calling you got to get your emails Yeah, well why don't we thank our... do we have producers? Yeah, we got a couple. Let's thank them first and then we'll dive into this and there's lots of other stuff because as I said I was looking over there while you were all looking here. We've got one executive producer and four associates. Okay. And our executive producer is Sir Mike Menzies.

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producer Credits and Website Log Analysis

Executive producers and associates are credited for financing the show, with notable contributions coming from listeners in Australia and Germany. Analysis of the logs for noagendaip.com reveals internal access from the Weather Channel and uscourts.gov. The hosts encourage other community-run site administrators to monitor their traffic logs for government or corporate entities.

mike menzies· australia· tiptopwebsite.com· noagendaip.com· uscourts.gov

03:40 uh... from elfin north victoria australia my birthday was on the twenty seventh of november in the uh... would like to celebrate by offering you some cash. He gave us $250. I haven't listened for a while, but I have the episodes downloaded and waiting. You're falling behind. And I also know you two work your butts off, which is true. I feel I have a moral obligation to keep the show afloat. Also, I'd like to have my night ring by now. Well, we're going to have that coming shortly. We have some good news on the 1010 coins. At least we have them in hand now. Then we have 1, 2, 3, 4 associate executive producers, Paul Palchik in Camberwell, West Victoria, Australia. Which is interesting, our top people are from Australia this week. Well I do have some Australian news, there's always something interesting going on down there. Oh, this place is crazy. His annual subscription is $1 x 4 hours x 52 weeks, which is $208.

04:41 So he's basically given us the year's worth of last year's or this year's worth of shows by a buck apiece. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you. Which is a good idea. I agree. We should put that on there as a $208 one-time thing. That's not a bad idea. We may do that. And then we have our old buddy, tiptopwebsite.com. uh... was replied for as such cocoa beach florida two dollars no janice rishaw keeping the good work guys uh... and by the way if you get in was put up a website to tip-top websites is one way to do it uh... easy donations you put me about halfway to nine hundred funny when you talk to when i talk last year on the phone now you said i to put my coming out of t.v. commercial one year later while on this week in startups adam said the same thing that because we unfortunately think alike which is that

05:27 It's a curse, I tell you. It's a curse. They've played over 900 times nationally in the history channels and so on and so forth. He's done quite well. Tiptopwebsite.com. And then as I scroll down the large message, Hans Hoffner in Berlin, Deutschland. uh... really nice town if anybody wants to travel go there in the morning john adam is spreadsheet may or may not show i'm a douche bag for not sticking to my word and when i would support the show be that is the many years the rest of the money i was gonna send a couple weeks ago very rare german would use the word gonna do you have any a better late than never i may which could be code i'm a film composer if anybody wants to connect and perhaps have a work on their phone i'd be glad to get in touch with either creative people work

06:13 The way you guys do what you guys think and so on if you could put a link in the To my site in the show notes. We'll do that for sure it would be handy there it is soundcloud.com So we'll put a link on the show John. You know you you just drop down to a.m.. Quality. That's how bad the Skype connection is Well, this is why I've got my call letters now. Yeah, you passed your test and no sooner had you done that than it sounds like you're on the short wave. And then $200 from Matthew Lacey who

06:49 Sent us an email to go along with this and I'll look up the email and we'll discuss what he had to say during the break or donation break a couple of Actually only one PR mentioned, but something I actually I hadn't thought about this. I thought it was quite interesting Remember we did that thing for no agenda IP comm yeah, and it turned out quite funny if you go to no agenda IP comm John and I will read out your slave IP address and It's cool. It's a great little, you know, it's like you use this all the time, particularly sysadmins, like what's the public IP address? And I think what a lot of people used to use is whatsmyip.com. So now you just use noagendaip.com. It gives it to you in digits right there on the page, but then you can choose either my voice or John's voice telling you, slave, in fact that's how it starts off, slave.

07:44 uh... where your i p addresses so the guy who runs this is of course uh... our vijazling friend who did the vijazling.com? uh... the vijazler yeah the vijazler And so he was looking through the logs. I'm very proud to announce that noagendaip.com in the past week was accessed by the Weather Channel internally, which I think is great, and uscourts.gov, which may not be so great for us. It may not bode well. Maybe you're violating some law doing this. And I think if you have a no agenda based website, take a look at the logs from time to time and see who's accessing it. I think uscourts.gov is an interesting development. But again, I don't... UScourts.gov, what is it? It's the US court system.

08:35 The whole system is looking at us. I don't know. Apparently at least one person inside the United States court system at uscourts.gov is looking at our sites. Probably just to get their IP address, but you never know. So I think people who are running a no agenda based site should check it out. It's kind of cool. Yeah, check your logs. Because I think what it really means is we got people on the inside. This is good. And the emails I received this week prove that once again. So special thanks to our executive producer for episode 257 of the No Agenda Show, Sir Mike Menzies, and our associate executive producers Paul Palczyk, TipTopWebsite.com, Hans Hofner, and Matthew Lacey. As some of you on this list already know, this is an official credit, and you're building up these credits. I see people with

09:25 Email signatures that are getting lengthier as they are yet again a producer or an executive producer or associate of Of an individual episode. It's highly appreciated because this is the only way that we can Finance the show and it's the we've chosen the difficult path, but one we feel is righteous everybody else out there Well, you've got to go out and do this very important thing, which is propagate our formula. It is extremely simple Listen up our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Say it with me now! Shut up, slave! Stupid slave! You dumb, dumb, dumb slave. So to reframe what we were talking about earlier, John, I spent most of my time looking at anything that the WikiLeaks extravaganza could be distracting from, and I found quite a few.

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Media Hostility and Calls for Violence Against Julian Assange

Media figures including Dennis Miller and Bill O'Reilly are criticized for advocating the assassination or execution of Julian Assange. Contrast is drawn between the aggressive stance of Fox News and the more analytical approach of The Guardian or the humor-based perspective of Jon Stewart. Investigative reporter Carl Bernstein is noted for recognizing the leaked documents as a valuable resource for writers.

julian assange· dennis miller· bill o'reilly· jon stewart· carl bernstein· fox news

10:29 things well you want to talk about the wiki leaks extravaganza first because it is kind of a bonanza for people who like to probe the news yeah i think uh... well you sent me a skype excuse me you okay i almost puked you see i'm all worked up about the skype quality it pisses me off You sent me a Skype message earlier in the week and you were like, you asked me a question, you're like I don't want to tip my hat, you know, I'm working. So I figured you were working on an angle and I wouldn't mind hearing what it is. I couldn't find it. Wait, you couldn't find an angle at all? No, no, I found a bunch of angles but I never really... Here's what happened. Now people who want to follow the WikiLeaks thing, the first thing you want to do is you want to go give up on the American media.

11:17 Right, although that's not entirely true because I have two clips that I found that I think it was on accident But but I think it actually tells us a lot about what's going on, but okay, it's somebody for starters Let's begin this extravaganza into the WikiLeaks issue with a couple I'm gonna first give you a premise And then I want to just get some of the clips out of the way so we can discuss this with me in more detail after we hear the clips first of all I'm I'm I was aghast at the various reaction to the wiki clips thing especially from the media. I mean what's wrong with these people? You know, I saw it as wow. This is a bonanza. This is the what the fourth estate is supposed to be doing You know digging into the government and what they're up to and all the machinations the duplicity the creepiness all that stuff But instead of that we're hearing people Well, let me let's play a couple of these clips and see what we're talking about here play the Dennis Miller clip That was on the O'Reilly factor. Okay, Dennis Miller on the O'Reilly factor. Hold on. Just gotta here we go

12:19 And then the last revelation wasn't no shock to me that Kucinich is indeed from the planet Uranus. So this time through, I think we all knew this stuff. The last time through when they revealed names in our effort in the war on terror, yeah, I think if this kid keeps this up, this is the reason the poison tip bumper shoots were invented. And if they're not going to do that, I at least say we sentence him to three hours on a tanning bed with Snooki. Do you want him punished? Yeah, I think they should off him just because he's a pale dweeb. Somewhere in the bowels of Langley there's an old

12:55 There's an old CIA guy like Alfred Molina and the company, one of these old style Eastern Bloc spooks, and I guarantee you if this guy gets anywhere near anything that's really going to compromise this country, I assume they off him. But he understands that. I don't think so, not anymore. I mean after the first round in July they should have charged him with espionage and didn't do anything about it. Jimmy, you know I saw all this stuff. It was just so annoying to me. It's sickening to be honest about. I mean he's actually, Miller is actually advocating killing this guy. Well a lot of people were advocating killing him. A bunch of people were advocating killing the guy for what? For bringing out a bunch of catty memos? I mean here, play the Jon Stewart take one.

13:41 okay you're a little fast on me today John sorry telling the candid conversations between high-level ambassadors statecraft laid bare This is going to be a national embarrassment. French President Sarkozy described as thin-skinned and an emperor with no clothes. Muammar Gaddafi inseparable from a voluptuous blonde referred to officially as his senior Ukrainian nurse. And North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il a flabby old chap. Who put Perez Hilton in charge of our diplomatic corps? Hey Columbia, is that your army or did Minuto just get back together? So now that's what a comedian would tell you, that's the way he looks at it. And even that wasn't all that funny. It wasn't that funny, but he's not advocating killing the guy. Now the one that was interesting to me was

14:45 the carl bernstein woodward's body who i who i never thought was part of the agency like woodward is part of some agency uh... and he actually but i think at the end he was only showed up above all things the joy bay harsh on nobody it was a little ludicrous because this guy is like a you know a guy in a room true investigative reporter who has got a big business where you can speak to the slaves the house but he's appreciates what's going on play the bernstein clip And here, pardon me Michael, of secret information always carries a risk and we have to be very careful about how we use that information. Okay Michael what did you want to say? I agree and I think Secretary of Gates came out yesterday and said hey basically this is not a big deal which raises another question well if these disclosures aren't a big deal then why are we spending so much time trying to classify all this secret information? Well actually most of it's low classification information. But weren't you interested in the fact that the Arab world would like us to

15:45 bomb the nuclear reactor in iran i mean i thought that was fascinating it's once in a great i thought i was not a bad i have a story on point that's exactly what i said it's a terrific story there are lots of terrific stories in here and uh... sure the state department doesn't want that disclosed because it comes to their also many of the things that he's came to the point is he recognizes the fact that this is a cache of good material that could be useful for writers So why would you trash, I mean what is Fox's problem? They're the ones who are all over this thing as some sort of a, you know, we should find him for espionage. Hey, he's not an American citizen. I heard a guy saying he should be arrested for treason. He's not an American. How does this even work? That was that idiot, what's his name, the Baptist minister who's running for president. I don't know. The rent's too damn high guy?

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

WikiLeaks as Intelligence Front Targeting Hillary Clinton

A theory is presented that WikiLeaks serves as a front for the CIA or other intelligence agencies to achieve internal political goals, specifically targeting Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. International leaders like Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have publicly questioned the authenticity of the memos. The Pentagon's downplaying of the leaks suggests a rift or coordinated effort between different government factions.

hillary clinton· cia· pentagon· vladimir putin· mahmoud ahmadinejad· wikileaks

16:39 Now what's his name? You know, uh, Hucklebee. Okay, I gotta stop you on this. Alright, so, because I found a couple clips which I think do kind of explain what's going on. So first our assertion is WikiLeaks is a front for the CIA or other intelligence organizations and it's used to embarrass people, to start to stir up crap and clearly there was embarrassment targeted against Hillary Clinton. Yeah, and by the way, that is our assertion, it always has been. And all that this shows, besides, you know, I agree that what this shows is that this is really a good control one because they got stuff in there that's obviously meant to be leaked out for some

17:23 for some reason. In fact, Putin actually said that. He believes the whole thing. A lot of these, he thinks some of the memos are fake. Ah, Ahmadinejad, all these guys say it's fake. They all say it's the US government trying to control the... Right, and I think that they're probably right. Yeah. But what gets, but that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is the media itself turning on this, on this, on this batch of information which is just a bunch of resource material that you should be happy is out there. Well, it's their job to do that. It's their job to make a big story out of it that doesn't actually go into the details of the cables. Well, that's the American media. But if you go and, like I recommend people do, which I was going to say before I was cut off, is that if you want to actually read some good stuff, some good analysis, some funny material, you have to go to the Communist paper, the Guardian in the UK.

18:09 They're loaded with stuff. Well, The Guardian, of course, this is another tip off that, you know, for a site that leaks things, again, they're leaking to mainstream media first. Giving the Guardian I guess they didn't give the New York Times anything. Oh, no I think the New York Times did get something or they did they did I think and and and the funniest thing of course is You know you saw the stock price of a Bank of America vary with about five to seven percent Bank is next there was like Bank of America Bank of America which of course was targeted with you know they targeted 30 thirty-plus of the bank america employees by uh... landing the uh... the jet in the hudson river now this is not the first time bank of america has been threatened by some evil group that's my assertion but i i i can argue with it because it's just too much too many coincidences and too much good stuff and the one guy one of the idea wanna push my clips but i got one more which kind of really give get to me triggered the whole thought

19:06 with that the whole thing is a record is rigged is that the immediately after the the notes were leaked pbs the national a treasure here's uh... it immediately had secretary gates xc i a uh... defense department guy carried over from the bush administration because obviously you take him or or get shot and he makes a comment This is like on Monday, he made right, you know, just after they get the note without looking at one memo, which means he looked at him before, says it's no big deal with this kind of a sly smirk on his face. If you want to play the Gates on WikiLeaks clip. It's a powerful people. WikiLeaks began releasing 250,000 State Department documents over the weekend. But today, Defense Secretary Robert Gates played down the overall effect.

19:58 The fact is governments deal with the United States because it's in their interest. Not because they like us, not because they trust us, and not because they believe we can keep secrets. Because otherwise we'll go out and we'll kick their ass! Many governments, some governments deal with us because they fear us, some because they respect us, most because they need us. We are still essentially as has been said before, the indispensable nation. Also today the State Department cut off a US military... Alright, so there's a couple of players here. We have the... So Gates is defense secretary, right? Right. So he's Pentagon.

20:38 Now does the CIA fall under Pentagon or does that... No, no, no. Okay, so I believe that the warring fractions, because this is clearly done for internal political motives, and the one, and the person I see hurt the most, who responded the most, and you doth protested too much, I think, is Hillary Clinton. and who of course is without a doubt, you know, the talk about her possibly becoming vice, becoming president and vice president at the same time actually. She can do it. You know, it's a winner of a ticket. It's heating up.

21:15 Right? That was heating up just before this release actually. She's out there, she's really making the move, she's making the rounds. Then I think we have the CIA faction, who probably control the entire WikiLeaks organization. And then we have the Pentagon, who are downplaying it and saying, ah well, you know, whatever. And actually probably uh... and themselves in a way edward with the cia i mean there's there's a whole bunch of i would think different players here so i think that i think they may have teamed up on this one because idea i agree i agree and but let me let me just there are two reports that i that i found uh... and one is uh... a report the other one actually has the uh... the spokes all for the pentagon speaking on fox which i found it to be in and uh...

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

State Department Computer Reforms and Pentagon Leak Suspicions

The State Department is reportedly overhauling internal computer systems to restrict access following suspicions that the Pentagon was the source of the WikiLeaks data. This move is viewed as a reversal of post-9/11 reforms intended to encourage inter-agency information sharing. Questions are raised regarding why the Department of Homeland Security did not use DNS seizure tactics against WikiLeaks as they did with other websites.

hillary clinton· pentagon· patriot act· information sharing· dns· department of homeland security

22:08 Really an outstanding interview, but listen to this first because this is I think kind of where it what it boils down to here besides Screwing Hillary Clinton Mitchell joins us now Andrew as we reported the State Department worked feverishly to try to stop these leaks including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton So what is the reaction there tonight? Oh you can imagine. This is a nightmare Natalie a nightmare for u.s.. Diplomats with the German magazine. They're speaking tonight man It was calling a political meltdown for US foreign policy Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spent the weekend basically speed dialing her counterparts in China and Germany Great Britain Canada Saudi Arabia the United Arab Emirates France and Afghanistan Just to name a few I can totally imagine her doing that by the way. This is bullshit This is this is these these cocksuckers. This is how she did you know she talks like that. No she's a truck driver apparently yeah exactly exactly

23:00 Trying to limit the damage, but if you've ever had a friend learn that you've said unflattering things about them behind their back Well, you can imagine the reaction. John how pissed would you be if I told people that you were a douchebag? Behind your back. I mean you can just imagine what that would be like. I would be steamed. You would be really angry. You would be speed dialing everybody. Talking about the most sensitive issues of foreign policy, like US concerns over Pakistan's nuclear arsenal as Mick reported or Saudi King Abdullah's desire for the US to attack Iran. Wait for it. Or Clinton's suspicions about Vladimir Putin's business dealings with Italy's Prime Minister Berlusconi. Already officia- By the way, duh.

23:38 Like duh, please tell me that they have changed the State Department computer system to better protect diplomatic secrets from Pentagon access Okay, now now listen carefully to what what's being said here. So they've done now they're changing the internal computer systems this because officials point out that the Pentagon is the suspect for the original source of this leak. Okay, so that's nice. Officials point out, I have no quote of course, but are saying the Pentagon is the source. That's interesting, that's good. And I'm also told that this will now cause a government-wide re-examination of those post 9-11 reforms. Very interesting. This was the sharing information between oh, yeah, right So now it's like oh now we're not gonna share any information. So now we're making it even more compartmentalized Good one agencies to share their intelligence with each other

24:26 You're now ahead one question. I guess is in this age of war and terror What really is the potential fallout could this then be a game changer? Okay, so so I took that I'm like oh, that's interesting because that's basically the Patriot Act You know there's all kinds of stuff in there well I think it's even more than that because they did remember when when Obama first came in and he put this this exactly he's got to talk to each other more. Yeah exactly now This is the report from Fox where the hot chick She talks to the spokesman for the Pentagon who plays down this whole thing. She actually comes out with a couple of good questions. The one that immediately was on my mind is, hey, if Wikileaks is such a tremendous, you know, if the if the if Assange should be killed,

25:16 and he should be probably just for being annoying but if he should be killed you know why don't we just do what we did over Thanksgiving weekend and just change the DNS just route around it you know just just get you know that it was so easy to take down all these 70 or 80 websites by changing the DNS entry and seizing them now confirmed by Department of Homeland Security by ICE confirmed confirmed that they did that which is of course a bad thing How come they didn't do that now? What about the big cyber team that the Pentagon has? So this report and what this guy says will actually, in my mind, legitimize the claim that the leaks came from the Pentagon. And this is a Fox News alert. A top US diplomat is now warning that Julian Assange's latest document dump through his website WikiLeaks

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

Pentagon Cyber Command Inaction and Robert Gates' Response

Pentagon spokesman Jeff Morrell defends the decision not to use Cyber Command to shut down WikiLeaks, characterizing the leaks as embarrassing but not a threat to American power. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is quoted stating that foreign governments deal with the U.S. out of necessity and interest rather than trust. The hosts interpret this as an assertion of raw military and economic dominance over diplomatic niceties.

robert gates· jeff morrell· cyber command· pentagon· megan kelly· fox news

26:06 has substantially hurt US diplomatic efforts. This, as more questions arise about why the Pentagon did not stop WikiLeaks from publishing these embarrassing documents to begin with. The Pentagon Press Secretary Jeff Morrell, who is the Chief Spokesman for Defense Secretary Robert Gates, is my guest now. Jeff, thanks so much for being back with us. We appreciate it. My pleasure, Megan. I want to ask you about this cyber command, okay? Because I don't think a lot of our viewers have ever even heard of this thing, but it's basically something that's been recently implemented at the Pentagon to protect us from cyber attacks and computer hacking and that kind of thing. And Major General Bob Scales, who's a Fox News military analyst, was on Fox News this weekend, and he said this, Jeff, take a listen.

26:52 This is a wake-up call for Keith Alexander and the guys at Cyber Command. I don't think anyone questions the fact that we've not done all we could offensively to take the fight, in this case, to the enemy. We spent most of our time trying to defend ourselves within the Department of Defense. But you remember, Greg, war is a two-sided endeavor, offense and defense. And until we get our act together in attacking these sources, the enemy will always have the initiative and the advantage. So why didn't we use Cyber Command to shut down WikiLeaks before they released these documents? Well, you know, Megan, I think Major General Scales is correct that there is an offensive and a defensive component. Listen how he's not going to answer the question, but he will actually kind of allude to what's going on. To our work in the cyber sphere. Cyber sphere, John, it's the cyber sphere. We have never danced around that. The fact is that we are really trying to focus on beefing up our defensive capabilities because it is becoming an increasing threat, but we also clearly have offensive capabilities.

27:56 uh... but it is uh... at the end of the day the determination of those who are charged with up such things that in another in other words uh... the book the boss said now leave it up that's all part of the decision was made not to proceed with uh... any sort of aggressive action of that sort in this case so right there where the pentagon release in this case whether the pentagon released that are not there was a decision made at high level say it's yeah of course gates we're not gonna stop it but i'm a stop this is great I'm sure they were laughing. I would be. Yeah, should we do it like, hey, Cyber Command, it's Gates here. Gates, hey. Don't touch that wiki thing, man. It was just deemed not appropriate for us to consider such a thing. Not appropriate!

28:45 It wasn't no, but it's so funny that he's basically just saying why is that because you know you got what is wrong with her? She's supposed to be a newswoman. She's that she why are we shutting stuff down? Why aren't we censoring everything? Why is this stuff coming out? Why can't we you know what? News organization is Fox. They're terrible. She's hot. It doesn't matter what she says not that hot. He's hot enough Please!

29:23 I think this is a capability that is reserved for threats of much higher consequence than this would have been. At the end of the day, as you heard from the Secretary of Defense yesterday, Megan, this creates some awkward and embarrassing situations for the United States government. It clearly puts those who cooperate with us, even some of our diplomats, in difficult positions, hopefully not endangered positions. But at the end of the day, it does not adversely, or at least over the long term, adversely impact America's power or prestige. Secretary Gates just does not buy into that. Senator Gates! There it is! Why do you say Senator, by the way? I don't know. That's interesting. Did he say that? Maybe he said Secretary. Maybe I just misunderstood. Over the long term, adversely impact America's power or prestige.

30:11 Secretary Gates just does not... Secretary. Okay, he fumbles it a bit. ...buy into that. So Gates called this, clearly. Yeah, of course. You know, people don't do business with America necessarily because they like us or... There's the line. There's the line. There it is. People don't do business because they like us because you should be afraid of us. Here it is. ...America necessarily because they like us or even trust us. They do business with us because they must. We are the last one remaining indispensable power. Wow! Wow! How awesome is that? You need to shut up everybody because we will come there. Look, hey, seen Iraq bitches? You seen Afghanistan bitches? Seen Pakistan? Seen Yemen? We're gonna come to Europe. What, you want to complain?

30:54 wanna complain? Did I hear you complain? And by the way, if you're gonna be duplicitous and say one thing and do another, ah, maybe it gets out once in a while. Yeah, so, you know, it's the way it goes. Basically all that was going on here was just a bunch of stuff going on behind the scenes that needed to get out. It got out and assholes like the Fox News Network that were against it, they want to censor the news? What is with these people? I mean that woman should be ashamed of herself to be a newscaster. She's obviously just a bimbo. You know and I went through the documents that were released because of course not everything's been released right? It's like we don't... It's coming out piece of the... Yeah but you know I read it it's like so what? You know it's nothing that we haven't discussed on this show. I got a couple things though that are kind of interesting and I want to finish since we're on this topic.

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Diplomatic Fallout and Julian Assange's Interpol Red Notice

Leaked cables reveal U.S. orders to gather personal data on UN diplomats and confirm secret U.S. strikes in Yemen. The Interpol "red notice" for Julian Assange is clarified as a request for arrest related to Swedish molestation allegations rather than espionage. An anecdote is shared regarding Assange's mother, Christine, who reportedly runs a puppet theater in Australia.

hillary clinton· condoleezza rice· yemen· interpol· sweden· christine assange

31:44 I do, since you brought Hillary up and the fact that you know she's obviously a douche bag. She's a target, she's a total, total... Chem. Oh, not a chem trail. Now you have to play the Jon Stewart on WikiLeaks thing which does mention her again in a light-hearted way but it is pretty funny. What has Assange been dicing rot? Cables that reportedly show Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice before her ordered US embassies and intelligence services to gather private information on UN leaders and diplomats Yemen's President Saleh telling General David Petraeus about strikes in Yemen will continue saying the bombs are armed

32:29 not yours. German Chancellor Merkel avoids risk and is rarely creative. Afghan President Karzai is driven by paranoia. Dmitry Medvedev plays Robin to Mr. Putin's Batman. Ahmadinejad is Hitler. Italy's foreign minister is calling this leak a diplomatic 9-11. Well then he's a f***ing idiot. I mean not for nothing, but if this is the diplomatic 9-11, sack up. I'll give you it's diplomatic mischief night, maybe. But most of the sh** in there is non-policy chit-chat and things we already knew. And quite frankly, Ahmadinejad is Hitler?

33:08 I think he might take that as a compliment. A peace offering towards a detente. I mean, transparency is a good thing. Government wrongdoing should be ferreted out. Although, just because something's secret doesn't necessarily mean it's nefarious. How's Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dealing with the blowback? Madam Secretary, are you embarrassed by these leaks, personally, professionally? Is she embarrassed? Were you alive in the 90s? Do you have any idea who you're dealing with? You know she's married to this guy, right?

33:49 Yeah, all right. Okay, so let me just sum it up with the following. So clearly Pentagon released this, clearly to reach a number, to achieve a number of goals. One, embarrass Secretary of State. Maybe she's not doing a good sales job on rockets and crap we got to put everywhere. I mean, I'd be selling enough missiles. Yeah, with the START treaty and all that. Maybe she has her own agenda. But definitely, without a doubt, the military-industrial complex is out there saying, hey, you may not like us, but screw you, because you got to deal with us, because we are the power. And that's literally what the guy is saying. So Gates said it, the Pentagon spokeshole is saying it.

34:40 So it's clearly... Everybody's saying it but Fox. Well the guy is saying it on Fox so that's kind of good. The thing that made me laugh the loudest though is of course Julian Assange You know, so there's an Interpol red alert, which means nothing by the way. You know, the Interpol can't charge and it can't make any country arrest him. Sweden asked Interpol to put him on the list and only countries that have an extradition with Sweden, which I'm sure is a lot, I haven't looked it up,

35:16 only they can actually arrest him and then extradite him. So it's not like Interpol is like hunting him down with agents. And this is still about molestation charges, not rape charges. So that's totally bogus. That's just to give the guy some credibility, I guess. But the funny thing was, Christine Assange, his mom, is worried about her son's well-being as Australia's government joined the United States in launching an investigation. Do you know what she does? His mom? No, but this I'm sure is a good one. She runs a puppet theater. Wow. I like, okay. Could it get any better than that? Yeah, symbolic. Subtractal. But regarding the media, John,

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Bank of America Symbolism and Corporate History

The headquarters of Bank of America in North Carolina is noted for having creepy murals containing Masonic and 33rd-degree symbolism similar to the Denver Airport. The bank's transition from the San Francisco-based Bank of Italy to its current corporate structure in Charlotte is discussed. The hosts express dissatisfaction with the bank's customer service and corporate culture since the merger.

bank of america· masonry· denver airport· bank of italy· charlotte· north carolina

36:07 You know, I think the memo went out. Everyone's like you play this up. We got to make this a big deal We you know, and they didn't do any of this the first time around when they released all the the Iraq documents Yeah, I think this is definitely leading up to the bank memos which is gonna shake. Yes, exactly And and people made a lot of money on just the news And then when Bank of America came out and said, no, we've had no contact at all with Assange, then all of a sudden the stock price went up again. People made some money there just on that little blip. However, there is a link in the show notes of noagendashow.com under the Ministry of Truth and the subheading WikiLeaks. You should go look at the murals at the Bank of America. They're in North Carolina, their headquarters. It could not be more creepy.

36:55 They've got all kinds of, you know, burning bushes, people hanging on puppet strings, all kinds of 33rd degree Mason symbolism. In fact, it reminds me a lot of the Denver Airport stuff. It's really creepy. That was the company that took over the Bank of America, which actually was a San Francisco-based company for years. uh... originally the bank of italy turn into the bank of america. That's right. The world's largest bank for a while, while in san francisco, while headquartered in india. One of these scam artists, i would say mainly because they ruined the bank of america and they changed the colors and the logo and everything in between out of north carolina and uh...

37:42 uh... they're kind of like the way uh... you know uh... the old eighteen t was repeats together by southwestern bell sb or not the south of the sbc and uh... yeah i guess that's out western bell and they'd be you know they bought a pacific uh... pacific telephone telegraph they bought up all these little companies all over the country then rename themselves eighteen t right uh... so they could keep that building in san francisco which is a cia you know, building of some sort. You think? And uh... Some sort. So that means, this has been going on, but you know, the Bank of America became a crappy bank when these guys, I mean a crappy bank. I refused to do business with them. Once they were taken over by this group in South Carolina, the customer service is not there anymore. It's a mess. And it doesn't surprise me. There's something fishy about it. One of the things I want to do, again to get a few clips out of the way,

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Russian Mafia State Allegations and Spanish Judge Jose Grinda-Gonzalez

Leaked cables from a Spanish judge, Jose Grinda-Gonzalez, characterize Russia as a "virtual mafia state" where organized crime and government activities are indistinguishable. The cables cite the mysterious Arctic Sea cargo ship incident as an example of state-sanctioned arms trafficking. The report highlights the difficulty in proving direct links between Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and mafia leadership.

russia· vladimir putin· jose grinda-gonzalez· mafia· alexander litvinenko· arctic sea

38:39 If nothing else, we did learn a few weird little tidbits which have been confirming what we've been saying on the show all along. And the one clip that I played earlier, the first Jon Stewart clip, you may have missed it, but they did have a quickie in there about Yemen. Yeah, well the guy said we you know, we'll we'll take credit for the bombs, you know, we'll say we hear that Yeah, yeah, we'd yeah our bar. We talked about this bombing of Yemen by the US and the invasion by the United States already about what six months ago Remember when Yemen was first started coming up in the conversation before they even came up with the Al Qaeda thing We had people documenting the fact that we were there doing something up north. Yeah. Yeah, I

39:22 So that's kind of documented. There's the other weird thing that took place Was I think the BBC report on on? Putin and Russia where they dug out of the WikiLeaks thing was worth listening to Because it resulted in Putin coming on the Larry King show last night Yeah, you know I started to watch that and I'd already done my three hours of congressional hearings which I'll get into later It was very annoying to me because you get you know the split screen They've clearly post edited this to take out all the interpretation stuff You can't hear Putin you get this horrible translator. No the chance there's the worst I just couldn't watch it It was just but I'm glad you did so I didn't have to I know there was a couple of things that came out of it But first if we could play these two I'll be you know the second chapter shows I was gonna be a lot of your clips, but

40:11 First I want to play the WikiLeaks BBC take on Russia which I thought was very interesting. Again, nothing that we don't really know but it's interesting the way it's presented. The world's biggest country and Europe's major energy supplier. The candid assessment by Spanish judge and mafia expert Jose Grinda-Gonzalez is quoted in a cable from the US Embassy in Madrid released by The Guardian tonight. The judge claims that Russia has become a virtual mafia state so that one can't differentiate between the activities of the government and organized crime groups. And the strategy is to use OC, or organized crime groups, to do whatever the government can't acceptably do as a government.

40:56 The judge cites, without elaborating, the mysterious case of the Russian cargo ship Arctic Sea, which went astray last year, as a clear example of arms trafficking, an allegation Russia has always fiercely rejected. And he describes as accurate the thesis of the poison spy Alexander Litvinenko of links between Russian intelligence and the mafia. But to the key question, the judge reportedly has no answer. The extent to which Russian Prime Minister Putin is implicated in the Russian mafia and whether he controls them. Mr Putin himself has been clear of his verdict so far on WikiLeaks slander. No doubt these latest allegations will reinforce that.

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Vladimir Putin on Larry King and Russian Cooperation in Afghanistan

Vladimir Putin appeared on Larry King Live to defend FIFA and promote Russia's 2018 World Cup bid, which was successful the following day. During the interview, Putin revealed significant Russian logistical support for U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, including surface transit and search-and-rescue operations. This level of military cooperation was noted as being largely ignored by mainstream Western media.

vladimir putin· larry king· fifa· world cup 2018· afghanistan· transit

41:38 There are plenty of rumors about the Russian state and organized crime. It's another thing to prove it, and these cables don't do that. But what is interesting here is that we're eavesdropping on the views of a Spanish mafia-busting judge and glimpsing the intense interest of the American government on this subject. A sensitive issue that will place new strains on their relationship and that neither the Americans nor Russians will be happy about being exposed in this way. Bridget Kendall, BBC News. A long-awaited report on ways to pass the United States. Yeah, I'm killing. I'm killing. Yeah, okay, so... So then Putin comes on and he goes on and blah blah blah. He's very boring as a state. Larry King is boring. Well now Mr. Putin.

42:27 So, uh, Mr. Prime Minister, Mr. Prime Minister. Okay, now I only have one thing there. I got a couple of questions. There's only one that's important because it was like... Well, you want the teaser first? Oh, the teaser's good. Now, by the way, within this teaser is the real reason Putin was on. That's it. Tell me if you... We'll ask the Prime Minister about Afghanistan and other things. Ask him about George Bush's new book. Ask him as well about whether The World Cup might come to Moscow in 2018. Oh, there it is. It's the only thing that counted was the World Cup, which they got. He spent one third of the interview discussing this. And they got it. It was announced this morning. They got it. Well, there you have it. It was Larry King that put it over. They totally got it.

43:10 that's amazing. Putin went on and on about how it is so bad that Fifa is being maligned, these people are good people. Did you read the story about FIFA? The Federation of International Football Associations? This huge scandal where all these guys on the inside were paid tens of millions of pounds? According to Putin it was just all lies. It's all lies I tell you. So he goes on about it's all lies, they get the thing the next day. The next day, literally. Good work Larry King. Larry's going to be up front and center, man. I tell you, he's got some good seats for that thing. He's got some great seats. Alright, so of course the FBS thing. The only one that was interesting is that I think, you know, because I'm always listening to this stuff going, yeah, yeah, we know this. But then once in a while somebody says something, it's like, well, I didn't know that.

44:03 Did you know this? Play the Putin bomb on Afghanistan and tell me you knew this. Well, you know, I would think that the international coalition in Afghanistan today is carrying out an important and positive mission. We cannot and shall not be present there militarily ourselves, but we've been rendering assistance both to the American partners and other partners of the international coalition in Afghanistan in various ways and means. We have agreed to ensure transit, and we've been doing that, including

44:46 Not only by air, but also by surface. relating important pertinent information including we have got it through our special services which you have mentioned a few minutes earlier this could be related to an absolute positive side of our interaction there were instances when our helicopter flyers took out American and Dutch military stuff.

45:28 from the battlefield being fired on by the enemy. And there are other means to support the international efforts in Afghanistan. For example, assisting the government in office and the armed forces of Afghanistan. This is a whole set, a big set of joint work there. We count on the fact that this effort will bear positive fruit. Let's discuss the former president. Let's discuss something else. So that's interesting. I didn't know that the Russians were helping us to that degree. I didn't either. This was all news to me. Of course, nobody in the mainstream media picked up any of it. I didn't read anything afterwards. I just thought it was weird. Breaking from the BBC, Swedish authorities have issued a fresh arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Senate Passage of Food Safety Bill S.510

The Senate passed the Food Safety Modernization Act (S.510), which grants the Department of Homeland Security and the FDA increased authority over food production. Critics argue the bill uses salmonella scares to justify crackdowns on organic and small-scale farmers. The involvement of DHS in food regulation is highlighted as a significant expansion of the agency's original mandate.

s.510· food safety· fda· department of homeland security· organic farming· salmonella

46:21 following a procedural error with the first one. You know why this is going to heat up? They should have never let it drop the bomb about the banks. Those guys are serious. Oh yeah, no they will kill you. Yeah. They will totally kill you. Yeah, no that's a... There's a good movie by the way, you might want to put it on the list of movie guys, it is an alert here. It's about international banking called The International. Yeah, no it's a I saw this yeah, it's not a great film one with Clive Owens yeah, and but it's about you know it's about this It's a good film and and there's mafia in there as well, and it but it really shows you how the banks are

47:02 Really all they do is finance and traffic money for weapons. That's what they're there for. It was based on a true story I think actually. Wasn't it based on the BCI or whatever? Yeah, I think part of it was based on a true story. The bank commerce internet. Remember the big scandal? Yeah, I remember. But these bankers are serious. I mean, this is huge billions and billions of dollars involved here and they don't want to be you know Messing with some nasty guys. I mean the State Department is one thing but you know, you don't want to mess with the banks man You're not pulling out any CIA secrets anyway or anything that's important and even if it was it's already over the I mean the book Legacy of ashes has all that. Hey, man. That's just not funny about us man. No one nobody cares that much The bankers are in doing it now. They need they don't need this aggravation. I

47:52 All right, so I think that's enough about WikiLeaks. God yes. Yeah, I'm kind of done with it. So I was out there John looking for anything else that could be going on and there are a couple things one is the passing in the Senate of the HR 501 which of course is the food safety law now obviously putting the protection of our food squarely at the feet of Homeland Security where food belongs let's be honest, so this is the this is

48:28 This is huge. This means they get to raid everybody, you know, organic. They're doing that now anyway. Right, but now it's the bill is passed in the Senate, although the House may block this over some procedural error. So I guess there are some good guys on the inside trying to turn that back. But look at S510, Senate Bill 510, the food safety bill. We saw this coming. We saw it with, oh, all of a sudden eggs are going to kill you and all, oh, got salmonella everywhere. Oh we have to protect the slaves. Oh this is be very very afraid. Oh we need to protect you Americans. Oh so now the department. By the way that make a note that's the opening clip. Okay so it's it but it's sickening that the Department of Homeland Security which did not exist a few years ago is now in charge of our food. This is the biggest

49:21 overhaul of food in... I have looked at this, what section does it give them any powers whatsoever? I thought it was all going to the FDA. Oh no, no no no. It clearly states Department of Homeland Security. Oh, this is about our security. This is, it's all about it. This is how it's being sold to you. It's not only the safety that of course this crap that is passed off as food is actually produced properly, which probably isn't necessary evil at this point, but it's about, you know, someone putting poison into our food and, oh no, it's the Department of Homeland Security. And if you pull up S-510 and just search for DHS, you'll see it.

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Austerity Measures

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform released a report titled "The Moment of Truth," outlining proposed austerity measures for the United States. Recommendations include raising the Social Security retirement age to 69 and implementing a 15-cent per gallon gasoline tax. The commission is described as a bipartisan sales team designed to prepare the public for economic hardship.

fiscal commission· austerity· social security· gasoline tax· bipartisan commission· debt

50:04 And we've been over this many times. So that was one. And by the way, plenty of links in the show notes, noagendashow.com, so you can go follow up on that. A couple other things happening, and I'll get into this one later, the climate conference kicking off in Cancun, Mexico. Yeah, party town. Yeah, I want to keep that as a separate topic for a second half of the show. The one that bothered me the most was the report and the vote was supposed to come yesterday. In fact, it was a mandate on the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. It was a mandate that they had to have a vote by Wednesday, December 1st. And they said, well, we're not quite ready. We'll do it on Friday, whatever. It's funny because if you go to the website, it still states, you know, no later than December 1st, you will have a report. So they released their report.

51:00 and it was very very boring uh... in fact i have zero sound clips but the report is uh... fascinating it's about uh... forty seven pages long and this is uh... in fact i think they did a very smart thing unlike greece unlike ireland unlike what is still to come which is uh... portugal and spain and probably germany in the united kingdom in all of europe They didn't have government officials come out and say, alright slaves, listen up, here's what we're gonna do, you're all gonna get screwed. No, instead they had a bipartisan commission, which I pulled a couple of bios just for us to laugh at, a bipartisan commission who were installed as the sales guys to sell in what they call, and literally the report John is titled, the moment of truth.

51:50 It could not get any funnier. And these are the austerity measures that are going to be put upon the American people. In fact, in the actual conversations which were televised on C-SPAN, which I watched in its entirety, sometimes they misspoke and would say, this bill instead of this report. Because this is the bill. They will take this report, they need 14 of the 18 members of the committee, 14 votes. If they have the 14 votes it gets introduced into Congress and of course it'll go back and forth, it'll change, it'll morph. They start at 47 pages, watch it grow to 2,000.

52:29 and in this thing john it's unbelievable fifteen uh... fifteen uh... sent extra tax per gallon on uh... gasoline uh... well you know uh... did we know that uh... uh... government energy sources have to be sold at cost to the human resources well we can't do that anymore we're just gonna have to charge more money for energy I mean and of course the whole thing is clouded under this lie of well you know where we have to fix we have to fix the social security which is inherently broken so you work until you're 69 by the way that's not you John this is the entire elitist

53:13 fraction of the world who is your actual generation, the baby boomers. I know most of them. Covering their own ass so that they get out and when they're sick and old and ill they'll be taken care of and people like me and my child will get screwed. well me me i was like to say that she's right on the and the others the wrong side of the line that's going to be drawn well i certainly am oh yeah you'd you're fucked but now let's get totally thank you so much but now and but now let's just look at this uh... and and and you can find it fiscal commission dot gov the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Corporate Interests on the Fiscal Reform Committee

The membership of the fiscal reform committee is scrutinized for ties to the military-industrial complex and major corporations. Members include David Cody of Honeywell, Ann Fudge of General Electric, and Erskine Bowles, a board member of General Motors. The presence of these individuals suggests that military spending and corporate interests will be protected while the public faces tax increases.

honeywell· general electric· erskine bowles· ann fudge· seiu· military-industrial complex

53:53 and uh... you know you can look at the mandate and it's all lies like you know there will be a report that will be a vote which is that just delayed it out when i read it for the vote yet because they don't have they don't have all the votes c because there's one or two people on there who are not completely with the program so that i like let me look at these members because you know this is supposed to be a bipartisan so we've got bachus on their we've got uh... tom coburn i think is probably uh... the guy who who's who i like the most And and and they went around the table at the final thing last night and you know and they all congratulating each other your leadership is so great you know I'm like puke and I have a bucket next to you. Yeah they overdo that. No your leadership your leadership. I want to thank you for your great wonderful leadership and you're pretty too. Yeah exactly so but listen to a couple of them so they had not just all politicians on there but on this committee

54:49 We had the true Minister of Defense, David Cody. Do you know who he is? No. Now you got me. He is the Chairman and CEO of Honeywell International. who ran TRW as well, so this is the true minister of defense, so he's in there protecting the military industrial complex's interest because it's all about the money. We have to just, whatever we do, let's not cut military spending. Yeah, we're going to cut security spending, yeah right, whatever. And now military spending is about, how many x times, I know it's more than twice as much as it was when we were fighting in Russia. It's everything. If we just brought everyone home and stopped that bullshit, we wouldn't have a problem.

55:31 Then we have Ann Fudge. Ann Fudge. What? Ann Fudge. Her name is Ann Fudge? Yes. And even funnier, she's African American, just to make it funnier. Ann Fudge, former CEO of Young & Rubicam. So she of course is the Ministry of Truth, she's the PR person. Right? She's got to advise... Is Young & Rubicam a accounting firm? No, Young & Rubicam is advertising. I don't know if it's an accounting firm, is it advertising? No, no, no, no, no, no. And she comes from a long line of Gitmo... She's the PR girl. Yeah, just a GMO snack. She comes from Kraft Foods. To meager as much as possible, she's the PR girl. And she's also on the board of, oh, General Electric. Oh, how convenient. I wonder if Ann Fudge is friends with Faith Popcorn. They should be.

56:22 But she's on the board of General Electric. That makes sense. Of course. Then we've got... They're all interlinked. That's actually a good connection right there. That's the whole thing. Alice Rivlin, Senior Fellow of the Brookings Institute. Okay, nice. Then we've got Andrew Stern, the President Emeritus of the Service Employees International Union, the SEIU, a proven thief and he of course is in charge of the ministry of slaves and then I look at him and I'm like okay so they've got all their shills in there but then I'm like you know why don't I look at a couple of these other people so we've got uh... senator let me see I think his name is uh... yes senator Mike Crapo he is uh... oh Crapo Crapo do you know what do you know who Mike Crapo is? I think we may have talked about him in the past I don't now off the top of my head I don't recall well he is a direct descendant of the founders of General Motors

57:19 direct descendant of the Crapo brothers who started General Motors. Okay, you think there's any conflict of interest there? Nah. Then we've got one of the co-chairs. This guy was the funniest one. Erskine Bowles. Erskine Bowles. Nice name. And I'd never heard of this guy before. He was the chief of staff to President Clinton back in the day. By the way, he's from North Carolina, so there's a Bank of America connection there. and he's from morgan stanley and uh... as i said he uh... he worked for uh... he worked for clinton uh... and he is a board a member of the board of directors of general motors i got shit is amazing how about how can this be this this bipartisan committee commission and then there's alan k so much for obama's boys are being all the intertwined with the military industrial complex in big business uh... completely completely

58:21 So all you progressives out there, pay attention. Yeah, I mean, so the whole thing was filled with shills and they come out with a report which is literally called the moment of truth and it is exactly what Greece got, it's exactly what Ireland got. We're going to sell off our land by the way, we're going to sell off our federal bill. It's the same thing. And then, and I'm listening to this And they're talking about all this money we owe. I saw Dennis Miller on a Thanksgiving day thing, an hour long thing on HBO, it was a special. And he said something which I thought was kind of funny.

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

International Banking Debt and Federal Reserve Transparency

Analysis of the U.S. national debt reveals that while China is a major creditor, a significant portion of the debt is owed to international private banks. Recent disclosures forced by Bloomberg show the Federal Reserve provided trillions in secret loans to foreign banks like Barclays and Dexia. The hosts argue that the global banking system, rather than foreign governments, is holding the U.S. economy hostage.

china· federal reserve· bloomberg· wall street journal· bank bailouts· debt

59:02 He said, you know, we owe all this money to people, why don't we just say fuck them and just not pay them. I thought that was kind of funny. And I'm thinking that because everyone talks about, you know, we owe the most money to China, we owe China the most money. It turns out that of the nine trillion dollars we owe, not even four million is owed to China. Or a trillion. A trillion, I'm sorry. Million. Trillion. So yeah, they are the biggest creditor but it's not even half. And so who do we owe the rest to? Well, all these other foreign countries. But then everyone's like, well, all these countries are in trouble. I'm thinking, well, wait a minute. If everyone's in debt to everybody else, and now apparently China is also in financial problems, who actually lent us all this money? And the answer is quite simple. It is the international banks.

59:55 the banks are holding us hostage and I think we should take a cue from Dennis Miller and say fuck him you're not getting your money because it's we don't owe it to China we owe it to banks in China we owe it to banks in Europe we owe it to banks. Banks! Yeah yeah the banks who run the key that that is not gonna happen of course no of course not because we are the bank of We're also the bank, that's what's kind of overlooked in the equation of just saying no to the debt. We want to keep that debt because it's just money in somebody's pockets, many of whom are rich Americans. I mean, this is not, the fix is in on this deal. The problem is that it's not, the debt's not the issue. The issue is that we've got nobody working.

1:00:40 The whole economy's in the toilet, it's gonna stay that way for the next 10 years. They say, they admit it more often than not. With the Moment of Truth memo, yes it'll stay in the toilet for the next 10 years. That's what they want. They're gonna fire hundreds of thousands of government employees. Fire them, literally. How's that gonna help? You know, I mean, I'm all for downsizing government, but that's gonna help? They're not gonna implement this thing anyway. No, of course they're not good. They're gonna bitch about it forever. I will say that the Federal Reserve, and this by the way was the information that a Bloomberg reporter was killed over. I think by the way what you I think you're gonna discuss which is the huge amount of money we've been giving overseas. Yes exactly. Is really one of the main things that was covered up by the WikiLeaks memo. Exactly and it's over three trillion dollars. I heard it was nine.

1:01:36 I mean, who knows what's true, right? This is the Wall Street Journal. But we gave it to Dexia AG, a Belgian bank, we gave it to Commerce Bank AG, a German bank, we gave it to Barclay PLC, the British bank, we just, we gave, we, you, John, you and I gave this money to foreign bankers. So is this not exactly the problem? This is exactly, this is exactly it. And I just want people, if you get, if you take away anything from this show, the illusion is being created that the boogeyman is out there and if we don't pay back the debt we're gonna get clobbered by him. Now if we said to China screw you we're not paying you back China's not going to come and invade us they need us to buy their iPhones and this you know that you have to see it in a much larger perspective but the but the banking system these guys and the system in general which includes the Federal Reserve

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

French Bank Run Proposal and Eric Cantona

Former soccer star Eric Cantona proposed a coordinated bank run in France for December 7th to protest the banking system. French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde dismissed the suggestion, telling citizens to "shut up" and ignore the athlete's advice. Meanwhile, gold prices continue to rise toward $1,400 as a hedge against currency instability.

eric cantona· christine lagarde· france· bank run· gold· stinky cheese

1:02:33 which includes all central banks, they are really holding us hostage. You just need to keep that in mind because that is the true problem of what's happening right now is the monetary system. Gold by the way about to hit $1,400 once again today. So anyway... Everything's relative. You could make more money investing in lead. I did get a nice note from... we have like three listeners in Gitmo Nation Stinky Cheese in France. and our buddy Tristan, because you know they had the soccer, the former soccer star said hey let's do a bank run on December 7th. So Christine Lagarde who looks like an elitist bitch

1:03:20 uh... was interviewed in the false i put the link in the show notes you can watch if you understand french uh... but she basically said he does his job i do mind i don't play soccer i won't take the risk to try it's not his first provocation he has a great soccer player that's not the reason to follow is every suggestion shot up to sleep and everyone's uh... all that's not bad and pretty good to do the french a more often than a moment ago where you're doing i'll try So, anyway, that's a lot of the stuff that was going on while everyone else was watching the WikiLeaks coverage. We were totally getting screwed and the sales team is out there to sell you... I mean, again, it was too boring to play because no one talked for less than six minutes.

1:04:12 But if you listen to how these guys are talking, it's like, you know, the American dream is not a Chevrolet or Cadillac. The American dream is not owning your own house. The American dream is passing on a better America to our children. Save the children. We have, it's hard choices we got to make now. It's like, for two years, what longer than two? We've been like, hey, you know, everyone's like, we can't, we gotta stop this, we can't keep borrowing money to go kill brown people in other countries, which is disgust. No, instead, Social Security has to change, we have to raise taxes, indirect taxes by the way, we have to lower corporate taxes, which makes sense,

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Judge Napolitano and the Portland FBI Entrapment Case

Judge Andrew Napolitano criticized the FBI's arrest of a 19-year-old in Portland, arguing the case constitutes government entrapment and the prosecution of "thought crimes." Napolitano clashed with Bill O'Reilly over whether the government should plant criminal ideas in the minds of citizens. The hosts predict Napolitano will replace Glenn Beck as the primary constitutionalist voice on Fox.

judge napolitano· bill o'reilly· fbi· entrapment· portland· thought crimes

1:04:53 But we're going to raise the cost of living everywhere. That is what's hidden in this, the moment of truth memo. Please go read this because this is what you'll be... if you're not going to deal with it, your kids will deal with it. And it was just disgusting to watch and all the back-slapping and then the whole thing filled with shills and corporate interests made me nauseous. Well don't forget the other overlooked story here which I actually have a clip on this kind of. which is a guy in oregon the patsy set up as they are kinda you know the bonehead the idiot that was like uh... that worked by the fbi and that story still developing uh... you gotta clip but i got the judge napolitano did that judge napolitano by the way on fox is is going to be i don't know why he did put him on uh...

1:05:45 Fox Business right across from O'Reilly and they get on each other's shows, which is kind of odd. It's almost like they're competing with each other. They've took him from the weekend to a daily show. It's just basically all about the Constitution and the illegal this and unconstitutional that and he has a lot of documentation to show that almost everything we're doing is essentially against the Constitution, you know, unconstitutional against the law, whatever. Right, right, right. And so he gets into these arguments and he starts off with a clip from the O'Reilly show on this guy when where he's defending the guy because the guy's been set up and O'Reilly is just promoting again like the rest of Fox promoting thought crimes as an actual you know an instrument of justice but just play the Napolitano. It's not the proper role of government

1:06:31 Because if government can do this to him, it can do it to anyone. If it is apparent, and I believe it will be, because I don't think Holder, a very liberal guy, the Attorney General, is going to put his neck on the line, alright, and saying, we didn't, we gave him out. But you still, and I believe you, you're telling the truth, you still, because you are a stubborn guy, would vote to acquit the man even if the tape showed he wanted to kill these people or a child molester wanted to rape the kid. So I think I can add some color here because the attorney for this kid is saying hey you know it's well known that the first contact you make with certainly with someone who's 19 years old the first contact is really important what's said there because you kind of lay the groundwork and that first contact is where the recording equipment failed

1:07:21 and now uh... the attorneys say is asking the judge to mandate that the that the faulty recording equipment be brought in and examined for what exactly went wrong and i think that's what they're uh... what this conversation is a black story goes on back at this a little bit Well he goes on to say, I think that Palatano makes the point that what we're talking about here are thought crimes that O'Reilly's promoting as a good thing. You are a stubborn guy who would vote to acquit the man even if the tape showed he wanted to kill these people or a child molester wanted to rape the kid. Wanting to do evil is not a crime.

1:07:59 But it is a free thought we don't publish knowledge thoughts on this country. I mean court has ruled you wrong on it Because you read half the quote the rest of the quote is if the government planted the seed in his mind He's not you are on the air. You know what he is. He's the new Beck Beck has to go because Beck has become crazy he is crazy yeah no and I I think this is the new back that's why he's on he's taking back slot on O'Reilly by the way and and this is all meant to just confuse your little brain is it what does that for sure but the promises on Fox Business which nobody watches

1:08:35 and he to replace back is is the you know so far down the road i don't think he's going to be long for the network now i do this is well i will be a bit more play i mean what on the list of predictions you now think the part i was actually in a lot of things going to move i think he's gonna move out i think he first of all fox news could new fox business news could use the rating so they need to cross promote him That's always important, but I watch Judge Napolitano from time to time and I think he's the new Beck. I think he is the new guy. He has better credibility. Beck has played out. He's done. He's wasted. It's over. He's published all his books. He's repetitious. He's got too much money. And he's not a judge.

1:09:14 He's not a judge. No, he's not even a college grad. Yeah. All right now former representative Bob Barr. Bob welcome. You want that you want Bob Barr? Yeah, I know this is good too. You know, Bob Barr's the guy who ran as the libertarian guy. We he was an ex-congressman. He is in kind of in the same camp as as Ron Paul in terms of his thoughts. and you remember him if you saw me is a very dull person for the independent right is the guys and the families very phoenix but he's a very but he's a libertarian classic uh... one of the few guys it makes any sense at all in his uh... you know i like the guy he's a make sense here too

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

DHS FAST Program and Behavioral Screening Technology

The Department of Homeland Security is developing the Future Attribute Screening Technologies (FAST) program to detect physiological and behavioral cues at security checkpoints. This portable laboratory is designed for use at sporting events, airports, and border crossings to identify potential threats before a crime is committed. The technology is framed as a "thought crime" detection system.

fast program· department of homeland security· battelle· behavioral screening· checkpoints

1:09:51 You are not only a former member of Congress, you are the former United States Attorney for the District of Georgia. You are the former Chief Federal Prosecutor for the State of Georgia. You were also a prosecutor in President Clinton's impeachment trial. Question, Mr. Former Prosecutor, lover of the Constitution. How does the government decide who to target when it wants to set somebody up? Now, just interjecting here, John, because I like your whole theme about thought crimes and that O'Reilly is basically propagating that. There is an actual thought crime department within DHS, Department of Homeland Security. Did you know this? Yeah, I think we talked about it before. I have a little bit of the commercial for their thought crime machine. Why don't you interrupt what we're doing and play it?

1:10:39 This is their commercial. It's not Jeff Smith's commercial. No. Under the Future Attribute Screening Technologies, or FAST program, the Department of Homeland Security is developing innovative physiological and behavioral screening technologies to streamline the screening process at security checkpoints. Hey, this sounds good doesn't it Johnny boy? I like it. Behavioral at checkpoints. In support of this program Battelle has partnered with industry leaders, Farber specialty vehicles and Draper Laboratories. Invest in those guys. To design and develop a portable research facility for the development and demonstration of innovative security screening technologies. The fast demonstration laboratory.

1:11:29 The mobility of the fast demonstration laboratory allows security officials to quickly and efficiently establish security boundaries at any location, making it useful for everything from large sporting events, border crossings, or airports. Isn't this exactly what we predicted? The only thing that they're leaving out is school? Yeah, school's gotta go in there too. School? We need this at school! The screening mobile module provides a checkpoint to establish or supplement security facilities at points of entry. At special events, attendees pass through the screening mobile module.

1:12:12 The unique low floor trailer design ensures accessibility for all. So you can watch the whole video. What do you think this thing costs? Oh, it's gonna cost tons. But it's not just for the government, it's for special events. Oh yeah. It's for special events. I was talking to a... We haven't had an incident for nine years. Not one crummy incident. In World War II, millions of people were killed. We didn't have this kind of crackdown on liberty. Millions. But it's not seen as a crackdown on liberty, it's seen as a boost up on revenues. It's a boost up on revenues. It's how we're going to make tons of money. That's what it's about. It's this and the identity management industry. And by the way, that's what that whole moment of truth memo is about. Everyone was in there protecting their interests. Hey, okay, so let's make sure we don't mess with any of our weapons programs. Okay, that's good. Now let's just make sure that whatever we do, we just take the money from the slaves. That's all that's important.

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

CIA Influence on NPR and the Ford Foundation

An investigation into the funding of National Public Radio and PBS reveals heavy reliance on the Ford Foundation, which is described as having a board filled with corporate lobbyists and Goldman Sachs executives. The hosts suggest that such large grants come with editorial strings that prevent alternative media from criticizing the corporate superstructure. They conclude that accepting such funding would compromise the independence of their own show.

npr· pbs· ford foundation· cia· grants· democracy now

1:18:21 he's not we might be but i don't see him being a rising star on uh... fox the way foxes headed will say will say he may get the idea of the dropped over someplace else i mean I think he's a rising star and I think he's got his... I think he is too, but I just don't see Fox's current thinking the way they're... the direction they're headed. And you had that Megan clip and the rest of it, they're just on the wrong side of the issues. And you know, Beck notwithstanding, I mean Beck is like his own, you know, animal and he's just... whatever he is a bit he's hit wrong half the time urd kind of nutty about stuff i think it's time we should take a break well so it leading into that uh... u s early on you know what is the deal with the media and how why are they also on board

1:19:10 and i just had a did alert there was a very interesting article that i read uh... titled does the cia cia control npr and other quote alternative media and it's a very interesting read and it's in the show notes and no agenda show dot com uh... but it talks about specifically npr your national treasure uh... which shows like democracy now and publications like mother jones and they lead a lot of this back to the financing of these organizations and of course we focus mainly on how as certainly NPR and PBS are basically commercial entities and run commercials for huge organizations that have no business talking to the consumer i.e. General Electric or Honeywell or who cares? Anyone watching those shows is not going to go out and buy a General Electric

1:20:02 Fridge in fact they're not promoting fridges. They're saying hey look at us. We're great We never forget about who we're really working for which is to insinuate that they're working for you They am the American people, but of course it's not they're working for the elitist of the world and then I come across One of the you know who who? who funds By far the most and the government is just a little piece of NPR and PBS is funding Do you know who is a huge donor? The PBS, the National Treasure? Yeah. Who? The Ford Foundation. Oh yeah, no, the Ford Foundation is... The Ford... that's a little weird. We have to actually, before you go talk about them too much, I want you to do a little research on them because they're a weird left-wing organization. Very weird.

1:20:53 Very very weird and you have to wonder what their agenda is and how they're related to the you know the corporate Superstructure that runs everything because it's it's it's it's vague well. Oh yeah tons of money And they do have a lot of influence. I think it's like maybe it's a nothing-to-see-here operation I'm not sure no because I look at their board of directors and And they've got nothing but lobbyists in there. The Rock Creek Group from Washington, D.C. We've got the Vice Chair for Academic Affairs. We've got the Sonic Corporation. Who else do we have in here? We've got Senior Director Goldman Sachs.

1:21:32 These are all board members of Infosys, okay, beautiful, East End Advisors LLC, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, No New Genesis. You know, so the whole board is filled with people who have deep, deep, deep connections to the workings of the country and certainly Washington. But when you go into their grants database at the Ford Foundation, And you just type in, you can search, you just type in radio. But you have to check the little box down at the bottom which says include non-initiative grants. I have no idea what that means.

1:22:14 But when you click that, that's when boom! It's like $3 million here, $4 million there, all to NPR, all to Association of Public Broadcasting Stations. There's page after page after page of hundreds of thousands in some cases here. National Public Radio, $3 million. This is just in this past year. hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars going into funding your national treasure and They have some good tools there John we could we could follow the rules and apply for a grant

1:22:51 I'd take the money. They wouldn't give it to us in a million years. No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't take the money. I would. You really wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. Yeah. No. Because we have people who support this show out of the goodness of their heart and because we've changed their, really changed their lives. You realize one grant from this guy, these guys would make it, would be 10 years of the kind of money we're getting. Yeah, but then, but then we would be talking about this, it'd be like, Hey, uh, Curry. I'm from the Ford Foundation. Uh, yeah, let's just have a little chat here. We just want to talk to you for a few minutes about, uh... Yeah, you know that story you guys were talking about? Yeah, yeah, you know, the folks up at the office, they really feel that maybe you guys should just not be talking about that. You know, it's just better for everybody that way. You know what I mean?

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

Listener Donations and Global Correspondence

Listeners from Tokyo, Canada, and Norway provide updates on their lives and support for the show. One donor reports receiving a refund from the Clinton Haiti Fund and redirecting the money to the podcast. A listener in Australia describes being "retrenched" shortly after moving from Norway, prompting a call for community "karma."

tokyo· norway· australia· haiti· clinton foundation· no agenda dice

1:23:37 Uh, nice house you got here. You're renting, right? Yeah. Yeah, it'd be pretty unfortunate if you couldn't afford the rent anymore. Yeah. Yeah, that would kind of suck. So no, John. So no, that's not... You got it. You are the guy. You are the guy. Donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Air on No Agenda. In the morning. I want to start off by bringing back into the picture Matt Lacey who donated, he's one of the associate producers, sent an email in and what he wants to do is he wants to call out Chris Male for being a douchebag. Oh wow. Douchebag! Hell yeah. Hopefully make him crack up during the takeoff landing procedures and get in trouble or something. If I get the Chinese ITM I'll be in your debt. Oh okay.

1:24:32 there you go you're in debt now. Says John Woo everybody! Says John Woo. Okay so and he also has a few other things going on. He's gonna be in town at the cloud conference that's going on I think it's coming up this coming week I mean sure. The cloud conference. I should be out there with a cardboard sign that's like get off the cloud you slaves the cloud is evil the end is nigh John 16. uh... we have a good donation of from chris angler one of our uh... regulars uh... uh... from milton ontario john is on a percent approximately red no agenda dice tell grace what you know i'm a percent of the profits of hundred fourteen dollars of dice canada dispatch has been ordered and should ship for july eleven j i'm sorry january two thousand eleven delivery no agenda dice will be offering a third set in a different color

1:25:30 And those dice are great. They are nice, they're pretty. I think this should be cracked though. I mean it should have like, it should be, they shouldn't be proper dice. That's the wrong numbers on it. Yeah that would be funnier. Have one that's just all six or all five. All threes and all sixes. You can't, you draw seven every time. uh... we had an anonymous donation of a hundred dollars from uh... madison new jersey christopher collins tokyo japan hello tokyo second donation thank you for the non-stop infotainment please send a birthday shout out to my son yeah we got that we got on the list yet he's on the list jonathan whitfield san francisco california first-time donor apparently fifty five fifty five great show it's depressing now it's not it's not depressing it's the height of humor

1:26:19 It's high humor. Yeah. But he says it's also entertaining, informative and downright addictive. Plus hearing Adam Curry laugh always makes me giggle too. That's because it's genuine, because I'm really laughing and I'm only 46. Imagine when I'm John's age. Daniel Hutner, Murphys, California, In the Morning John and Adam on Sunday. uh... november twentieth my girlfriend and i took the bar train from dublin pleasant in the open to attend a raider game when i exist exited the train i noticed three d h s department of homeland security police that's a new one there's so many police agencies in the bay area is ridiculous as my comment anyway says he was watching them at the crowd pass by he asked the bar cop another police agency

1:27:07 why they were department of homeland security police in their jurisdiction the answer i got was it was a condition of receiving federal funding wow I said wow, I said wow, that makes total sense. It makes total sense and anyway, Daniel's from Murphys, California. Did you see that YouTube video of, I think it was Florida, of TSA doing checks at the bus station? No. I'll play that later, you'll love it, it's funny. Stephan Gerstacker in Dover, Ohio, double nickels on the dime, Greg Stone, Knight Sir Greg,

1:27:47 uh... rapid cities out there south dakota fifty five dollars i would think i'm going to start another knighthood i'm only twenty three and want to start two thousand eleven with the copious amount of karma well let me get you started there my friend you've got karma just a little bit of extra twenty three love you man mean it greg brunsell kenosha wisconsin fifty dollars uh... christopher lawton south dartmouth massachusetts $50 a pea sneaks snakes paper snakes painter snakes another $50 a Robin Durden

1:28:29 or do we read in i think is very dareden i don't know to do a book in new jersey still a knighthood layaways on the fast track and whoops i just clicked on something i went to a different scenario uh... where was i a rare your kohei and then we have kohei pronounced kohei yes kohei in tokyo tokyo hello tokyo he says that you mentioned uh... curiously have two donations in tokyo this week I had John and Adam and you mentioned there's zero donors from Tokyo. I mentioned a couple of people, Americans in Tokyo. But I subscribe monthly, 3333, which I began in July from Tokyo. I just wanted to make sure my donation wasn't funding some wrong guy. Hey, you know, your sumo thing paid off, John.

1:29:12 You mentioned sumo in the last show. Sumo in Japan is pretty much a corrupt sport like the EU soccer you guys talked about. No kidding! Yeah, same thing. There isn't a huge money involved since it's not an Olympic game, but it should be by the way. But it's known history. Sumo industry is deeply tied in with the Japanese Yakuza and there was a recent gambling scandal. We know most of this after you follow sumo. there and we follow it religiously i do actually is the false you know quite closely as soon as association must take more severe action against the scandals in the pretty much the yakuza runs every gambling games japan and most of the gambling facilities are owned by immigrants in north korea

1:29:49 All right. What, there's gambling going on over there? I understand so, yes. And the family send whatever they make here in Japan to the relatives in North Korea. I didn't know about the North Korean connection, so we'll have to... And it says some of the banks are controlled by the North Korean government. No, no, say it ain't so. And that's it for this week's donors. We want to thank everyone. It's your birthday, birthday. I'm Noah J. Happy birthday to Michael Menzies. His birthday was on the 27th and Christopher Collins wishes his son Tomomi turning 10 on the 5th of December. A very happy birthday to you. Of course the same from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. And before you continue with the pitch...

1:30:35 In the morning Adam, I was associate executive producer for episode 255. I am need of both de douching and karma Please I guess John missed it. I moved from Norway to Australia for a job then 11 weeks in they have retrenched me as they say they cannot afford my position so I am up shit Creek total paddleless Totally paddleless Philip Smith anyway love the show it keeps me sane so we You've been t2 and we've got to give them a little bit of karma there we go so fine. You've got karma So I don't know if you actually missed it or not, but I want to make sure we I think I miss where he moved to and maybe that story I want to mention just a $10 donation that came in because it's kind of interesting I think people should pick up on this from steam and sauna Inc in Kenosh Kenesaw, Georgia He got a refund

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Greg Stone

Greg Stone is officially knighted as Sir Greg Stone of the No Agenda Roundtable for contributing a minimum of $1,000 to the show. The hosts perform the ceremony, granting him the traditional "hookers and blow" benefits associated with the elite status. The segment concludes with a plea for continued listener support to maintain the show's independent news deconstruction.

knighthood· greg stone· roundtable· donations· deconstruction

1:31:28 from the Clinton Haiti fund. What? And he's giving it to you. You'll do more good with it than the scumbags will. How did he get a refund? I guess he asked for it. He must have done it through his credit card or something. I don't know. Interesting. I guess you can get refunds for everyone out there who donated. Get a refund. Yeah. Hell yeah, oh man, that's crazy. Yeah. Well anyway, thank you so much it we appreciate it and we have It's been a long time coming John, but I need you to draw your blade here for a second comes. Yeah, because well we have We have a night

1:32:07 As we ask Greg Stone to step forward and kneel, shlabe, before us! Greg Stone, you have contributed to the No Agenda show in the amount of a minimum of $1,000. And your support is highly appreciated, but this also puts you squarely in an elite company, my friend. We now hereby knight thee, Sir Greg Stone, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please come over, enjoy your hookers and blow, your rentboys, your cabernet, whatever your preference may be. sir greg so thank you so much we uh... appreciate the support highly highly highly appreciated and that we would hope people would get go to the right that org slash in a uh... channel devore dot com slash in a or the no agenda show and link to the support page and help us out for the next show so we can stay uh...

1:32:56 continue to do this uh... show which uh... i think we come up with stuff that still nobody else uh... manages to do we deconstruct the news and we deconstruct people who deconstruct the news and we're always a list of the one step ahead so and they are without a doubt uh... you can uh... once you learn how to do it you can just like go to a cocktail party and say Hey man, they came trailing us with aluminum! Now, it doesn't quite work that way. Well you could do that, you sound like the Ted Grouch. Well you gotta be subtle about it. First you gotta change your ringtone. Oh excuse me, I have an important call. Oh it's my ringtone, no that's it. You gotta kinda ease people into it. But since Haiti was brought up, I do want to, there's a couple links of course in the

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Haiti Presidential Elections and the "Protégé" Meme

Haiti's presidential election features Jude Celestine, frequently labeled in the media as the "protégé" of outgoing President René Préval. Other candidates include musician "Sweet Micky" Martelly and 70-year-old Mirlande Manigat. The election takes place amidst a cholera outbreak and ongoing displacement from the earthquake, with UN peacekeepers providing security and validation.

haiti· jude celestine· rene preval· sweet micky· mirlande manigat· cholera

1:33:43 in the show notes in the show dot com uh... of course the elections in haiti which are now between three people they've they voted on sunday they have until like december I think no January to count the votes but there was no people were like really angry and of course no one's there Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper not there to talk about the election no we got a quiet let's not talk about the elections because we have Jude Judas who is prevails protege as the the news continues to call him Preval outgoing president prevails protege Jude

1:34:18 uh... he's the front right here of course of the guy that's going to get it then we have a sweet mickey martelli who is uh... there was just a shill thrown in there and uh... we've got some seven-year-old woman who's probably the real the real candidates Oh! Yeah, yeah, someone else popped up. I missed this. Yeah, let me bring up the story for you. It's kind of interesting because I had not seen her name anywhere in any of the documentation. I'm like, oh wait a minute, who is this person? And I think that that's why they delayed the election results but of course the UN peacekeepers who are now officiating the election say, hey we give it the green light, everything's good, it's all set, don't worry about it, we've taken care of everything.

1:35:02 Of course, the place is gripped by cholera, traumatized by the earthquake. Amazing earthquake, first time in 90 years that's ever happened. So it's Jude Celestine, and every single news report you'll see this meme, the protégé. What does that mean, protégé? He's not a ballerina. No, no, your protege is somebody, anybody, could be anybody, that models themselves after you. You could have a couple of proteges for all you know that you may be mentor or maybe you don't. They just model themselves after you. And so there's somebody that likes what Adam Curry does and they want to be the next Adam Curry and that's a protege.

1:35:47 Celestine who was plucked from obscurity by Prevail to run the government road construction entity after the earthquake so this guy didn't even show up until after they flipped on the earthquake machine enjoyed the full use of the powerful Ignite Party machine during the campaign so that makes sense. But then we have Martelli who's a 49 year old I'm reading the Times now popular performer of Haitian Kampa music he's been running third apparently in the polls uh... because there is this woman mannequin who is seven years old and i think she's the true candidate and of course you what she isn't not a chance in hell winning but uh... the peacekeepers out there that they know what we checked everything even though no one is i d cards and then we got a million people in tents here who are you know and we did we did that no money they got no clothing they got no food they got no water they got water filled with cholera

CHAPTER 23 / 34 Discussion

Red Cross Land Ownership Disputes in Haiti

The Red Cross attributes the slow pace of rebuilding in Haiti to complex land ownership disputes and the inability to secure legal titles for construction. Critics point out that billions in aid have been collected, yet most victims remain in tents nearly a year after the earthquake. The Clinton Bush Haiti Fund is scrutinized for reporting only $52 million in donations despite massive global fundraising efforts.

red cross· haiti· land titles· clinton bush haiti fund· reconstruction· shelters

1:36:41 But all that cash went to Clinton and Bush. Don't worry, it's all taken care of because it's all good. Just shut up. Shut up, shut up, don't look over here. WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, go look at something else. Actually I have a clip from a guy from the Red Cross who's on the ground there. It's really difficult John. It's really difficult rebuilding Haiti. There's all kinds of problems there I think in the context of how difficult it is to secure land and then to Secure land that you can actually build on listen secure let notice listen carefully John you'll get this to secure land that you can actually build on There is a sense that Here we are happy with what's been achieved, but it barely scratches the surface in terms of the needs in this city I mean you've seen it you've driven around you've seen the fact that

1:37:25 Most people are still living in camps and- How can that be? How can most people still be in the tents? Didn't we have a whole benefit, John? Didn't we have like- Didn't we send billions of dollars over there? One of the major reasons- Behind that is that finding land to actually build shelters on has proven to be incredibly complicated. Why is that? Now, why- very good question. Why is it very complic- Why- no, be serious with me now. Why is it difficult to find land to build on John because the UN took over? Thank you difficult. There are issues over the fact that well, first of all, this is a very congested city this city built up dramatically over the last 25 years and is

1:38:06 riddled with slums, I mean, let's call it what it is. So there's not much land available. It's very difficult to prove ownership of land. Oh, really? Oh, I see. It's difficult to prove ownership of land because all the hotels and casinos are being built on that land. That's why. They don't need any slaves living on the land. This land, for example, we've been negotiating really since almost... Who were you negotiating with? The first couple of months after the earthquake with the mayor to secure land to build shelters here. Right. About a month ago, it becomes clear to us that it's actually not owned by the local mayor or the municipality. But why did he say that earlier, Tian? He didn't know?

1:38:47 Who knows? Who knows? I'm just from the Red Cross. Who knows? Well, wait a minute. They cut him off when you say it's owned by and then they cut him off. What's the end of the sentence? It doesn't come. Who knows? You don't know why. The government can say like, well you know, enough with the bickering, let's just grab this land and just build. Why don't they just build? That's a better question. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be evasive, but that's a better question to ask to the government or to the interim commission. The very first step you have to take in any construction process anywhere in the world, be it the Netherlands, be it Australia, be it Haiti, is to know,

1:39:25 is to have some kind of legal assurance that you're doing something that can continue for the years that this is needed. So can you believe what is going on now? So now this is the reason, according to the Red Cross, who of course took all that money and put it in their pockets and have great offices, beautiful limousines, is all perfectly taken care of. Yeah, it's not all, your mind does not go directly through the Red Cross into Haiti. Well, we can't actually build anything because we can't figure out who owns the land, so well, screw them. How can it take a year to figure out where to build something? They have 12, no 20,000 UN peacekeepers there. Can't they just like take a piece of land and say, well for now we're just hijacking this because people gotta have clean water? In this country which we have all kinds of backstop mechanisms including title insurance,

1:40:19 to own land and to make sure that you can buy and sell it so you don't have a problem with, you know, like you do in third world countries of actually owning anything, which has always been seen as one of the reasons countries can't develop is because nobody can really have ownership of anything. If you can take property, like you can do here for like public, the public good, you can just go grab some property as a state, you know, uh, of course entity, of course, why can't you just grab all of it in Haiti and you start doling it out to these because it's owned by the hotels and casinos that are being built there. That's why the guy's not going to say it, but that's what you got to ask.

1:40:59 So is this an average home here? Yeah, this is the units that we're building here, the transitional shelters that we're building here. That's three rooms. It's about 18 meters square. As you can see, it's secured against hurricanes. People looking at this, they gave their money and they're frustrated. What would you say to them? This just takes time. Yeah, and you know what? We understand the frustration, and the frustration is shared by the Red Cross, by Oxfam, by MSF, by all agencies. The frustration is acutely felt, but our frustration is not, doesn't compare with the frustration of people living outside in camps. Yeah, no kidding. Duh!

1:41:43 anyway so it's a land ownership issue. So Oxfam gets a hundred million bucks and then they use it for administrative costs where they try to work this out and then all of a sudden they spend it all ten years later. So you know now that Clinton released his numbers I'm now keeping a very close eye on the Clinton Bush Haiti fund uh... which you can find a clinton bush haiti fund dot org uh... because they will have to do they are five oh one three c and they will have to release uh... the information but if you look at their website it is but static absolutely pathetic uh... the amount the lack of information they they put on that site especially go to the f aqs uh... and here it is

1:42:33 how much money has been donated so far to the clinton bush haiti fund how much do you think john as a dissent september thirtieth two thousand ten i don't know have no idea is just take a wild guess how much in a million dollars fifty two million dollars do you believe that view at them does anyone actually believe that's all the money i mean the netherlands alone raised a hundred million is below should ask for refunds funds and send us the money pika we're doing more for haiti than anyone else is No, at least we're complaining about it. That's for sure. All right, let me roll out this TSA checkpoint at the bus station report, which is hilarious because of course you always got to bring in one guy who's taking the bus and what do you think his opinion is of the TSA? Can I guess? Yeah, go ahead. Well, you know, if it means we're going to be safer, it's just one of those things we're going to have to put up with. Not even close. Not even close.

1:43:32 It's much better than that. Let's listen to the report, John. Our Tampa police and federal government agencies are teaming up to keep your family safe. They unveiled a new plan that could stop a potential terror threat where hundreds of people pass through each day. Bill Logan was there for a first-hand look. It's the sort of security we've seen a lot of since 9-11 at places like airports and seaports and major sporting events. Now here at the bus station. To sort of invent the wheel in advance in case we have to. Inventing the wheel in advance in case we have to. Huh? This is the TSA guy. We're inventing the wheel in advance so we don't have to something rather, I don't know, terrorism, blow up safety, children, fear. If there ever is specific intelligence requiring us to be here this way, us and our partners are ready to move in at a moment's notice. What we're looking for are threats to national security as well as immigration violations.

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TSA VIPER Teams at Bus Stations

TSA "VIPER" teams have begun conducting security screenings at bus terminals in Tampa, Florida, searching for explosives, immigration violations, and "bulk cash smuggling." A local news report features a passenger expressing relief at the security measures, claiming they feel safer from potential bus bombings. The hosts mock the expansion of airport-style security to ground transportation.

tsa· viper teams· tampa· greyhound· bulk cash smuggling· terrorism

1:42:33 how much money has been donated so far to the clinton bush haiti fund how much do you think john as a dissent september thirtieth two thousand ten i don't know have no idea is just take a wild guess how much in a million dollars fifty two million dollars do you believe that view at them does anyone actually believe that's all the money i mean the netherlands alone raised a hundred million is below should ask for refunds funds and send us the money pika we're doing more for haiti than anyone else is No, at least we're complaining about it. That's for sure. All right, let me roll out this TSA checkpoint at the bus station report, which is hilarious because of course you always got to bring in one guy who's taking the bus and what do you think his opinion is of the TSA? Can I guess? Yeah, go ahead. Well, you know, if it means we're going to be safer, it's just one of those things we're going to have to put up with. Not even close. Not even close.

1:43:32 It's much better than that. Let's listen to the report, John. Our Tampa police and federal government agencies are teaming up to keep your family safe. They unveiled a new plan that could stop a potential terror threat where hundreds of people pass through each day. Bill Logan was there for a first-hand look. It's the sort of security we've seen a lot of since 9-11 at places like airports and seaports and major sporting events. Now here at the bus station. To sort of invent the wheel in advance in case we have to. Inventing the wheel in advance in case we have to. Huh? This is the TSA guy. We're inventing the wheel in advance so we don't have to something rather, I don't know, terrorism, blow up safety, children, fear. If there ever is specific intelligence requiring us to be here this way, us and our partners are ready to move in at a moment's notice. What we're looking for are threats to national security as well as immigration violations.

1:44:28 We're also looking at one of our main initiatives which is bulk cash. Okay, it's not just we're also looking for people smuggling cash on the bus. What? Yeah, didn't you hear him say that? Yeah, but why? Because you can't have cash, man. You can't have cash. You gotta have plastic. Smuggling cash on the bus? Smuggling cash on the bus. Stop smuggling cash, John. Also looking at one of our main initiatives which is bulk cash smuggling. And so passengers ready to head toward Orlando, Jacksonville and points north had to go through a series of checks while Susu from the Tampa Airport Police... Susu is the dog. ...department gave the bus his sniff test. It's all part of what Homeland Security calls VIPER for visible... Ah, VIPER! VIPER!

1:45:11 I love it. We have another acronym. Viper! Viper! Viper! The Viper's out to get you. The Viper's gonna snap at ya! For visible intermodal prevention and response. I can't even spell. It's Vi-par. What? It's Vi-par. It's Vi-par! It's Vi-par! Yeah, they're big on initials. In this team effort between TSA, ICE, CBP and TPD. This is ongoing for us. We do this every day. And for the folks who travel... Alright, here comes John. You weren't even close. Listen to the folks who travel. Like this day in and day out, it's a comfort in troubled times. I feel safe, knowing that I get on a bus and I'm not going to blow up.

1:45:52 What an idiot. I feel safe knowing that... That's your American man on the street. I don't like it and the bus is gonna blow up. This is our educational system at work. I don't want the bus to blow up. No, it's not like this sort of security is going to be on display at every bus terminal every time. But the message here is... Hey, hey, hey. Adam, stop, stop. How many buses have been blown up in the United States in the last 50 years? I don't know, man, but I feel safe that my bus ain't gonna blow up. You know my Christmas tree makes sense. Yeah, you know I just don't want him to blow up Alright, so what is probably taking place right now which was probably the most emailed article was NASA setting up a news conference and this is the next distraction. I'm sure people in the chat room have their eye on it. They're like, oh NASA's gonna announce that there's intelligent life forms out there. Yeah, another dumb move.

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Gulf of Aden Naval Presence and Stargate Theories

A massive international naval presence in the Gulf of Aden, involving dozens of countries, is theorized to be monitoring a "vortex" or "stargate" rather than fighting pirates. The hosts suggest this atmospheric disturbance is responsible for the record-breaking cold and snow currently affecting Europe and the UK. The presence of submarines and aircraft carriers is cited as overkill for simple anti-piracy missions.

gulf of aden· yemen· stargate· vortex· jet stream· pirates

1:46:55 Meanwhile, it's the face on Mars all over again. The true news is happening in my favorite spot, John, in Yemen. Yemen. Yemen. Yep. I've been telling you about the Stargate and after all of the earthquakes, after all the earthquakes, now there is a vortex. There is a vortex that is so severe, it is actually disturbing the jet stream Would you listen to me for a second? I'm very serious about this. I'm listening. There is now a vortex. Okay, okay. Do you know that... Let me tell you what navies are in the Gulf of Aden.

1:47:44 The Royal Australian Navy, the Belgian Navy, the Bulgarian Navy, Canadian Navy, People's Liberation Navy, the Royal Danish Navy, the French Navy, the German Navy, Greek Navy, Indian Navy, Islamic Republic of Iran's Navy, Italian Navy, Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Republic of Korea, South Korea's Navy, Royal Malaysian Navy, Royal Dutch Marines and their Navy, Pakistani Navy, Portuguese Navy, Royal Saudi Navy, Russian Navy, Republic of Singapore, Sweden, Spain, Thailand, Turkey,

1:48:22 the british royal navy and the united states wow it sounds like a party it is and they've been there for months and under the guise of pirates Because we got a stargate. I mean if I was a pirate I'd be pooping right now. There's no pirates. No pirates gonna go. Hey and if you see the pictures of all these they got subs, they got aircraft carriers, they got ships because they know that this stargate is opening up. And we had those like 60 earthquakes in the Gulf of Aden. Now we have the vortex which is literally coming from out of the Gulf is disturbing the jet stream and the proof is in the pudding. Look at Europe.

1:48:59 Completely snowed under. It's pandemonium once again. Britain, snowed under. Kidmonation lowland, snowed under. The biggest traffic jams in history. Because the jet stream has been disturbed by this vortex. Severe, severe weather, which by the way is not moving the way that the biodiversity people have been telling us. It's not getting warmer, it's getting colder. You know, you're just me you just met you with this kind of thing. You're right. I'm the one that's gonna be set up Totally, so why don't we just have to come up with something wackier? Well, it's not wacky I think there is something going on there. What are all the way? You know what happens when that Stargate opens up? You know what comes out? Tell me John fish What we could do with some good fish

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Cancun Climate Summit and Energy Rationing Proposals

At the Cancun Climate Change Summit, scientists from the Royal Society called for World War II-style rationing of electricity and goods in developed nations. Proposals include halting economic growth in the West to allow developing nations to expand. Experts also warned that "threat multipliers" related to climate change could double global food prices by the year 2050.

cancun· climate change· royal society· rationing· smart grid· food prices

1:49:53 we could totally do with it. Alright, so the Climate Change Conference is another thing obfuscated by the WikiLeaks scandal. And this of course falls under the heading... Remember to say it loud and proud, it's biodiversity. And two reports, the most important one as reported by the Telegraph from the United Kingdom who of course in great harmony with the Royal Academy was it the Royal Society this is the mouthpiece whenever something important comes out for the slaves the Royal Society oh it's the Royal Society they have told us well if the Royal Society says then it must be completely true

1:50:42 Scientists call for rationing in the developed world at the Cancun Climate Change Summit. Why? Well, I will explain. Because the Royal Society has told us... In a series of papers published by the Royal Society, physicists and chemists from some of the world's most respected scientific institutions, including Oxford University and the Met Office, agreed current plans to tackle global warming are not enough. No, no, no, no, no. What do we have to do? Well, in one paper, Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Center for Climate Change Research... The what? The Tyndall. Oh, I thought you said tingle. Might as well be. ...said the only way to reduce global emissions enough while allowing the poor nations to continue to grow is to halt economic growth in the rich world over the next 20 years.

1:51:26 This would mean a drastic change in lifestyles for many people in countries like Britain, as everyone will have to buy less carbon intensive goods and services such as long haul flights and fuel hungry cars. I think you should take the train slave, that's a good idea. Now, Professor Anderson admitted it would not be easy to persuade people to reduce their consumption of goods. He said politicians should consider a rationing system similar to the one introduced during the last time of crisis, which was the 30s and the 40s. This could mean, attention, get Monation East, attention, attention slaves, here it comes, a limit on electricity,

1:52:02 So people are forced to turn the heating down. This is exactly what we've been predicting with the smart grid technology. In this weather? Yes, you have to turn it down, turn off the lights, replace old electrical goods like huge fridges with more efficient models, and food that has traveled from abroad may be limited, and goods that require a lot of energy to manufacture. This is what is coming. Your electricity is going to be Limited you're going to be rationed. That's why they're putting those smart meters in that's exactly why it is It's exactly why it is but I think there was a quote here somewhere. That was funny. I can't seem to find it I think the guy said, oh, you know, we'll just put on a jumper Hey slave shut up and wear a sweater wear more layers I

1:53:01 and then the experts say global warming could double food prices by 2050. It all kind of fits together with Codex Alimentarius, with what we have here in the United States. How is global warming going to make food go higher prices? It seems it's going to make more land arable. This doesn't make any logical sense. Well, would you like me to read the report for you? No, I don't want to hear anymore. Oh, come on. Even if we stop spewing global warming gases today, the world would face a steady rise in food prices this century. But of course it will because you've got all these regulations we now have to adhere to. You've got the Department of Homeland Security checking to make sure you're doing it right. So of course the food is going to, prices are going to rise.

1:53:41 On our current emissions path, climate change becomes the threat multiplier, this is a nice meme, that could double grain prices by 2050 and leave millions more children malnourished. This is what they reported on Wednesday, the global food experts in Cancun, Mexico. So remember how much focus there was on Copenhagen? And there's none of it now. And I think this is another thing that WikiLeaks is distracting from. uh... harrison ford by the way was not a little they have a uh... apparently that show people know if you'll it showed up for the second event the one in cancun uh... that is way down because i think they've lost a lot of their mojo especially and they did they had to have in cancun of course is the last time they had this stupid event it's not always snowing did you know that the global warming event was snowed out

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Entertainment News and Celebrity Scandals

A roundup of Hollywood news includes Mariah Carey's first pregnancy interview and Michael Douglas preparing to play Liberace in a new film. Other items mention Natalie Portman's Oscar buzz for "Black Swan" and Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's appearance in Paris. The segment serves as a contrast to the "real news" discussed earlier in the episode.

mariah carey· tiger woods· michael douglas· brangelina· natalie portman· liberace

1:54:31 Hey man, let's move that shit to Mexico man, where it's like hot. There's no chance of snow there. And that's it this week for our Biodiversite! Hey! Keeping our eye on the biodiversity so you don't have to, hey. I've got real news. Oh, well hold on a second. It's Thursday. Hold on. And now, back to real news. Can I just go straight into it, John? As you know. Extra exclusive Mariah's first interview since confirming she's pregnant. You're gonna find out boy girl her cravings the pregnancy pal I can't even get this ring off if I try and why she's dripping in diamonds New video that could wipe the smile off Tigers face

1:55:26 Law and Order, The Tiger Scandal, Who Wants Murder? Michael Douglas as Liberace. Michael's new interview about his next movie, His Health, and battling his ex over millions. Extras in Paris with Brangelina. Brad rocking leather pants, the star he wants to babysit his kids. A huge, huge hit in my house. And Johnny Depp on the Angelina you don't know. Very perverse sense of humor. Plus Natalie Portman on that early Oscar buzz and that same-sex kiss. You say, OK, let's just have a couple of glasses of wine and get it over with. Woo! Woo!

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Randy Quaid and the Hollywood Whackers Theory

Randy and Evie Quaid appeared in Vanity Fair to detail their fears of being murdered by "Hollywood Whackers" for their estate and trusts. They outline specific assassination scenarios involving Demerol or staged suicides. The hosts compare their situation to Michael Jackson's claims that he would be killed for his music catalog, noting the massive posthumous earnings of celebrities.

randy quaid· evie quaid· vanity fair· michael jackson· demerol· trusts

1:56:06 You just take one random teaser from any of these shows and you got it. You're caught up. You're up to date. Well, not quite, John, because I have been tracking the Hollywood Whacker story. Ah, the Hollywood Whacker story gets more interesting. It does get more interesting, and I've spoken to a few PR folks here in Los Angeles, in these hills of Hollywood. So first of all, I'm sorry. And before you go, did you get to, you know, Randy Quaid has chimed in on this. Yes, I was going to start with Randy Quaid. Alright, go. In Vanity Fair. Oh, I'm sorry, you have a clip? No, I got no clip. Randy Quaid, he and his wife Evie are in Vanity Fair and they say, you know what, they've figured all of this out. They predict they'll be hanged, stabbed or drugged with Demerol. I think this was in Esquire.

1:56:57 No, Vanity Fair. I have it from Vanity Fair. Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. It's Vanity Fair and Esquire. You're right. The Quaid's outline for Esquire, three scenarios. Randy would be drugged in his sleep, Evie would be stabbed to death, and the knife would be placed in Randy's hands. They'll be found in their car dead from lethal doses of Demerol or they would be hanged together from the rafters of a garage. All very valid! I am not laughing at this. I don't think it's funny at all. I totally believe that Randy Quaid is worth more dead than alive. He won't get a movie at all at this point. No, he's toast. But he's an Oscar winner?

1:57:38 He's won several awards and he has He's made over 41 million dollars and he has huge trust set up which is former manager agent set up and I'd see no reason why it will be beyond the realm of possibility as Evie overheard a cell phone conversation that If she were killed and Randy was killed there'd be a lot of money in it because all these trusts are set up and will flow through to people who set them up and That's what they're claiming and I don't think it's that crazy and G1 I mean, this is what Michael Jackson went through. He said if they kill me it'll be for my catalog. They killed him

1:58:19 and uh... and they got the cat got the catalog beetles and i tunes to michael jackson album out everything's rockin and rollin and uh... so what happens biggest moneymaker last year told two or seventy five million dollars dead so i'm uh... i'm i think i'll actually go for the last option on the board alex also hang together from the rafters of the garage i think that uh... they'll be suffering from depression depression and they will kill themselves and i'll be the end of it and i said no found yet Now, regarding the public, and I put a whole list of links in the Hollywood Whackers file at the show notes, noagendershow.com. I totally believe, first of all, mafia. No doubt about it. In fact, someone showed me the Urban Dictionary entry for Mozambiqued, which is apparently what she was. Two to the chest, one to the head, is that you were Mozambiqued.

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Ronnie Chasen Murder and the "Gay Mafia" Hit Theory

The murder of Hollywood publicist Ronnie Chasen is rumored to be a "gay mafia" hit related to the box office failure of the movie "Burlesque." Theories suggest Chasen was killed for leaking negative information about the film's production and internal conflicts involving Screen Gems head Clint Culpepper. The recent suicide of a "person of interest" during a police search is viewed with skepticism.

ronnie chasen· beverly hills· burlesque· clint culpepper· david geffen· gay mafia

1:59:18 and of course she got I think three to the chest one to the head so I would say that was a double Mozambique but definitely I think everyone agrees that Ronnie Chasen publicist for many many years in Los Angeles was killed. The question is who to what end? Now the whole thing is being covered up it had to be covered up by the news that came out late last night that the police were investigating a quote person of interest in a sleazebag hotel, oh there's not even a sleazebag hotel, it's rooms for $675 a month. That's not completely sleazebaggy, I'll have to say. It's not the worst you can get in California, Los Angeles. And they came in with a search warrant, the guy immediately shot himself in the head. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Well so here is, I'm going to read verbatim. And by the way, if he shot himself in the head,

2:00:16 and he's dead now and it was a suicide they say. Why are they not releasing his name? Is it some... who is it? What is the point of keeping the name quiet? What exactly? Well, the reason why it's being kept quiet is because this needs to go away. It needs to go away because mafia is involved. Now, I've spoken to several publicists here in Los Angeles. and uh... the general whisper word out there is that ronnie chasen who is old old-school hollywood she's been around for a long time that she had very quote dark connections with the mafia and uh... and this was some kind of payback or some kind of mess up screw up and she was just you know the way the mafia does business get what you're not gonna play book you did what is interesting

2:01:07 is she was doing the promotion for burlesque right and burlesque is being and she was shot on the day of that of that roll up party of the of the yeah the premier party so the director on this is what's his name Anton let me just get his first name here director I have and Anton I don't I don't recall his first name Let's look it up. Yeah, okay Everything's a little slow here today Steven Anton okay, okay now Steven Anton is a rookie is he like he's this is his first huge huge expense in fact although not a very big hit and this I'm sure has something to do with it is

2:02:07 uh... burlesque was very expensive movie to make a share net christina aguilera and he bag got this gig one of the most expensive films in the history of screen jams and uh... the hollywood reporter came out that uh... as with it with the entire story so how did steven and ten get this gig well he is the boyfriend of clint call pepper who is another Hollywood legend and was brought back to run Screen Gems. And apparently, and this is what the Hollywood Reporter wrote, they had huge fights, like cat fights, like bitch fights on the set. Angry, like there was all kinds of craziness going on. Of course the movie goes on to flop. It's pretty much, you know, just a bit, it was number five I think on the opening weekend. Harry Potter killed everything.

2:03:03 It flopped and the word is is that Ronnie Chasen leaked the information about this cat fighting and crap going on covering her ass because she knew that the movie was a dog and that she and it was essentially and here it is a gay mafia hit. And this is getting good and that Culpepper had her killed purely out of spite He was just pissed off. And of course, it's a huge black mark on his On his career the most expensive movie in Screen Gems history his boyfriend who he ushered in to direct it huge flop and

2:03:47 and uh... and i guess she's getting blamed she literally took the fall for it but apparently she was the one that started to cover her ass by leaking the information about hey this thing is a dog even though i'm hired to do it but she leaked to the hollywood reporter and this is inside it from PR agents in hollywood. The people you're hanging out with now. I don't hang out with them. So uh... he did one other movie in 2006 a direct-to-video film that has a 5.5 out of a 10 rating called Glass House the Good Mother which i guess was another uh... with angie harman is a star and we haven't heard anything about her sense no and other than that he apparently was in a is mostly an actor and he's been in and uh... julian n y p d blue back in the nineties or anything and i'm sure

2:04:33 and uh... the rest of us pretty sketchy and is not like i would give him a uh... the most directors are among the most expensive movie ever did exact not a conservative choices but that way so it doesn't so of course the news coming out about uh... a person of interest killing themself in front of the cops who were looking for me and that's like that doesn't drive it all with with what i've been hearing so i have no idea where that's coming from i'd i don't know what it's about and i don't understand it Well, maybe they're looking for a fall guy and they haven't gotten their story together yet. Well, the guy killed himself for a reason, that's for sure. Maybe nobody killed themselves. Maybe that's the setup. Now we gotta figure out who to kill and then make a story around it. Right. I mean, it's possible.

2:05:20 But I am not laughing at the Quaids. I feel for them, I think it's horrible. I called Michael Jackson... I called his death a murder. Mainstream media hung up on me. By the way, this guy was also the boyfriend of David Geffen. Yep, exactly. Geffen... known gay mafia. David Geffen's pretty ruthless. Well, he gets the job done. I just think the idea of gay mafia is like, take that, bitch! Snap! Yes, yeah Mr. Curry Are you Adam Curry? Hello Hello, Adam's not here man. He's not here. I promised one more to to the head story. We talked about it last week Got no coverage whatsoever but the actual BP executive

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BP Executive Plane Crash and Aviation Safety

A BP executive in charge of Gulf recovery operations was recently killed in a small plane crash off the coast of Florida, an event that received minimal media coverage. The hosts discuss the suspicious nature of small plane crashes involving high-profile figures. They also debunk a news story about a co-pilot causing a nosedive while adjusting his seat, arguing that modern autopilots would prevent such an incident.

bp· gulf of mexico· plane crash· florida· autopilot· co-pilot

2:06:14 who was in charge of all operations in the Gulf, was killed in a small plane crash off the Florida coast now over a week and a half ago. And he was the guy in charge of the recovery. Oh really? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I vaguely remember that. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you just gotta, it's unfortunate and I have not looked into, of course no one has looked into what happened, how did the accident take place, you know, it was just, killed in a crash, small plane, it's a small plane, John, no need to, are you a journalist? It's a small plane. Oh, small plane crash, yeah, okay, well there you go.

2:07:00 Just didn't have the time to dig into it and see what the the cause the cause was but quintet But it is it is the favorite means of killing people. Oh small plane. You know how it goes You can't trust those small planes. Can you John? No, they're dangerous. Yeah, completely dangerous, especially if somebody's trying to kill you Yeah, there was a Another funny story in the uh... Maybe I should play the jingle actually. I don't know where the jingle is. We haven't played the trains good, planes bad in so long that I can't find it here. All aboard trains good, planes bad! I thought the funniest joke was about the aircraft that went into a nose dive

2:07:56 And taken for total truth is that well the the the captain the pilot as someone call him went to the restroom and the co-pilot was adjusting his seat and hit the steering column and it went into a 26,000 foot nosedive. Well yeah here's what happened he wasn't hooked up to the steering to the seatbelt he pushed the thing forward the plane dropped the nose dropped down he fell onto the controls and couldn't get up. Actually, I'm sorry was 37,000 feet fell for 30 say couldn't get up He was just stuck on these things because everybody rolled into the cabin and fall that fell on top of him And he'd so he was jammed on top of the steering mechanism down which dives the plane. Yeah, it makes sense Yeah It's not a pretty sight. It's total bullcrap. Oh

2:08:48 These things are on autopilot up there. And I don't know the specific configuration of this aircraft, but I'm pretty sure when autopilot is on and you push it, it will correct. It doesn't just go, oh, disengaging. No, you have to physically, every autopilot I've flown with, you can push it down, you can override it manually, and then you let go and then it corrects itself. But no, and no, we hit an air pocket was what the apparently the pilot said, but no, no, no, no, let's change that. The co-pilot was adjusting his seat. So another reason not to travel by airplane. Or just so you know, John, as we have the bird flu on the way, H5N1, where are you most likely to pick up bird flu? From a bird. Yeah, in a bird actually.

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Mercury in Vaccines and Contaminated Fish

A news report claiming mercury pollution causes homosexuality in birds is linked to the presence of mercury in human vaccines. A personal anecdote from a Whole Foods fish counter highlights public awareness of mercury levels in different types of seafood, such as Dover sole versus salmon. The hosts suggest a broader agenda regarding the chemical alteration of behavior through environmental toxins.

mercury· vaccines· homosexuality· birds· dover sole· whole foods

2:09:38 Oh, in an airplane. Yes, according to the Director of Immunization Services at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. That means you better get a shot. Oh wait, of course this is part of the CDC. The quote is basically, it's just a plane ride away. It's a plane. That's great. That's a good one. I give you another point. You're ahead two to nothing. I think these guys, Hill and Knowlton, they're doing a fantastic job. They're really, really rocking it. Talking about birds, breaking news. Uh-oh. It looks like pollution causes homosexuality in birds. No, no, it's not just pollution. It's mercury specifically, isn't it? It's specifically birds becoming gay because of mercury. So how good is it when that's in your vaccine?

2:10:28 I don't know, maybe the vaccine makes you gay. Yeah, what is this story? I mean, I saw it briefly, I was like, oh my god. It's all over the place. Fox has it, it's mostly overseas. I think it came out of the Telegraph or the BBC News. bird mercury turns birds homosexual some anti-feminist and a fishy maybe cuz there's so much mercury in fish nowadays you don't want to see sushi i have no idea this time there's a story behind this would you have to deconstruct later just broke today as funny cuz i was a maybe supply for angry birds the he had angry birds the christmas edition is out there you go that's it and gave her a certificate in the back i was at the whole foods uh... last week

2:11:11 Sorry, and I know I don't know. I did there's some good stuff there, and I like buying my fish there They have a pretty good fish to our meat department Yeah, and and I like getting the Dover sole which is really cheap Dover sole now is like six bucks a pound or whatever it's it's Dirt didn't wasn't soul at one point really expensive wasn't that that I know of okay? So it's and it's a beautiful fish, and you can you know it's like nature's fast food You know you throw that in the pan. It's done. It tastes great. There's almost no bones I'm talking the guy bus and I really love your Dover sole because you know it's it's really a cost-effective Meal it's like yeah, it's great. You know there's no bones, and there's much less mercury. I'm like what oh

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Mandatory Flu Vaccines and Chemtrail Observations

A San Francisco hospital worker reports a new policy requiring employees who refuse the flu vaccine to wear surgical masks and display identifying stickers. Meanwhile, heavy "chemtrail" activity is reported across the country, with the hosts providing photographic evidence of persistent trails that do not dissipate like standard contrails. The segment links medical mandates with environmental manipulation.

flu vaccine· san francisco· masks· chemtrails· contrails· flickr

2:11:51 Yeah, there's almost no mercury in this but in the rest of the fish here this mercury and you like I Was just amazed that the guy at Whole Foods would say oh, there's almost no mercury in the Dover sole What is it in is it in the salmon? It's in everything? Hmm. There's mercury in all fish. Oh Dear Adam and John, I work for one of the largest hospitals in San Francisco in the People's Republic of the Bay Area. They've always offered flu vaccines to employees and have said that they require them if you work in a patient care area, but you can simply sign a declination to get out of it. This year, they've drastically changed the policy. If you get the flu shot, you have to have a sticker on your badge indicating that you did. I'm thinking a six-pointed star.

2:12:37 If you opt out and therefore do not have the sticker, you are required to wear a mask at all times. This applies to everyone, clinical staff, clerical workers, janitors, food service workers, etc. And he actually sent me a copy of the email. Is there something going around that we don't know about? That they need to wear these masks? Is everybody sick? I haven't heard about anything. You have to start wearing the mask if you don't get the shot by December 15th. What, are they gonna take a... spray us with a crop duster with some disease in the next week or two? I mean, I don't get this. I'll tell you man, looking at Monday Sky, no sooner had you and I talked about it

2:13:16 And we'd had three glorious days of blue skies. It was the exact same temperature Monday morning. The dew point was the same. I took pictures, I twittered the pictures, I put them on my Flickr account. I got pictures from all over Gitmo Nation. We had chemtrails up the wazoo. They're called contrails and they were due to the fact that the dew point may have been what it was at ground level but the upper atmosphere changes constantly. Okay, well these weren't at 28,000 feet John, these were... go ahead and take a look at my pictures, they're pretty low. All right, put them on the show notes a couple thousand feet at best and they were there all day Oh, I mean contrails dissipate not these I just hung there all day and they started to gradually turn into one big big mill They're poisoning you obviously which is yeah, they are. Yes, they are and they're poisoning you too except you're just there's nothing going on here No, okay, so As we finish off this wonderful show

CHAPTER 33 / 34 Discussion

Reality TV Deterioration and TSA Child Pat-Downs

Reality television shows like "Hell's Kitchen" are criticized for becoming increasingly artificial and emotionally manipulative. In a more serious turn, a TSA director suggested that parents should turn invasive security pat-downs into a "game" to make children more comfortable. The hosts express outrage at the normalization of strangers fondling children at airports and bus stations.

hell's kitchen· gordon ramsay· tsa· pat-downs· james marchand· child safety

2:14:18 And we got too depressing as I was gonna play you know we're talking about how the extra show put you know jams everything into a One or two teasers the I don't know if you've watched Hell's Kitchen recently, but the show is deteriorated G John I was watching the moment of truth memo presentation on C-SPAN 3 yeah I was watching Hell's Kitchen. Actually I couldn't watch too much of it because I mean it's so bad now then it's so artificial. Didn't they have like a Department of Homeland Security guy on recently? They might have, I don't watch it that much. But whatever the case is, I do have a, a Senate, a, uh, the Hell's Kitchen torment clip, which is actually kind of long, but it's the teaser. And all you have to do, I don't know how much of this you can take.

2:15:09 because it's so crappy. I mean, and the show has turned into such a just a screaming, a phony screaming match. Everyone's screaming at each other for no reason. It makes you not, it's gonna, I'm telling you, the way the show is going, it used to be very educational for people because they say, well, this is what I can expect from my food when I go to a good restaurant. But now it's gonna, I don't think anyone would want to work in food service if they saw that this was going on. I mean, this is short of shooting. In fact, one guy threatened to kill another guy. It's ridiculous, but you play this and see what I'm talking about. Next time on Hell's Kitchen. Listen carefully. Chef Ramsay starts the day with a bombshell. Two of you are going home this evening. I have got to step it up. I'm just gonna take control. I'm ready to kick some ass. This is my chance to lead, my chance to show what I'm made of. The final four are in for the most intense dinner service of the season. Listen to me, it's not good enough.

2:16:05 John, this is hurting my ears. You've gone far enough. It goes on. This is the longest teaser clip I have ever seen. It's almost two minutes. And meanwhile they have these segments in between trying to make this thing, I don't know who this is appealing to, the Jerry Springer show? But play the Hell's Kitchen sentimental crap. They go and they talk to one of the chefs who they bring all their family in because I guess they keep them prisoners while they're doing the show. Well yeah, and they get them liquored up and they don't feed them, that way they're more emotional. That's a known trick. So they bring a child to this woman who's I guess her daughter or son. No! No!

2:16:58 Oh my god, that's my baby. That's my baby boy and he's just like such a big boy now I can't even take it. It just affirms the reason why I'm here. You know, I'm doing this for my family. I'm doing this for that little monkey face. There you go. He's just absolutely everything to me. I'm so sorry. It's time to say goodbye. This is stupid. It's unbelievably dumb. Waste my time. It's like she sounds like she hasn't seen the kids since she got out of you know the concentration camp. Apparently the kid looks like a monkey. He does look like a normal little one year old. You know while we're just on the kid thing I just want to bring in a quick TSA thing that is very very disturbing. So there's reports out now of course you know we've got to feel up your kids right?

2:17:57 This is very important. And the TSA, I'm trying to find, I'd love to have an audio quote of someone actually saying this. The TSA is saying, for children that are a bit traumatized by being felt up by big men and women with rubber gloves, parents should teach them it's a game. I mean as a parent... It's just the kind of game the shrink used to tell the kids to bust poor bastards who were like set up on molestation charges, that kind of game. That's exactly what it is. And it's really disturbing to me. Now this is... I would think... This is from Raw Story who have this

2:18:47 this link but I mean I'm I want to just get some documentation I've got addressing the controversy of a pat-down TSA regional security director James Marchand told the press the TSA was working on new practices to make children more comfortable during the pat-down process here's the quote you try to make it as best you can for that child to come through if you can come up with some kind of game to play with a child it makes it a lot easier said Marshawn promising to make it part of TSA training. This is abhorrent. This is unbelievable. I'm just surprised that the American public puts up with this crap and lets their children be fondled by strangers like this in broad daylight. It's amazing to me that we still have people making excuses for the TSA when we've never had an incident, they've never caught anybody, and they've upped the ante on security for no apparent reason. We haven't changed the security levels at

2:19:42 whatsoever and everybody still and the media finds these people they go it's good i'm glad we feel so much as secure i don't want to see the bus blow up all i'm i don't want to be the main no i what plane is blown up in the last one you know hundred million flights So what we did not say during our donation segment is that we need your support, we need more of it, we need a lot more of it and you can do that by going to Dvorak.org slash NA or ChannelDvorak.com slash NA or just go to NoAgendaShow.com and click on the donation link. It's incredibly important. We have no other way of financing the show. A lot of work went into it. A lot of work. I mean look at poor John, he had to sit through Hell's Kitchen. I mean let's be honest.

CHAPTER 34 / 34 Discussion

Show Wrap-Up and Call for Listener Support

The hosts conclude the episode by emphasizing the importance of the "value-for-value" model and the work required to deconstruct propaganda. A brief review of the novel "18 Acres" by Nicole Wallace is provided, noting its parallels to Hillary Clinton's life. The show ends with a reminder for listeners to obtain amateur radio licenses for emergency communication and a sign-off from "the man wanted by Interpol."

c-span· 18 acres· nicole wallace· ham radio· interpol· value-for-value

2:20:26 Operative worry hell. Not to mention the hours I spent watching C-SPAN. I was lucky this week because Mickey was out. you know she's been working on the Supper Club opening. And you still didn't get a clip. I couldn't get a clip it was so horrible. I've watched those meetings, I've done the same thing, I've gone through them and I just go my god there's no clip here. It's moderately interesting but there's never a clip because they never say, they go on, they drone. Anyway so what we've done for you once again as we do on every single episode of the No Agenda Show is there's show notes you can find it at noagendashow.com once the show is posted

2:21:03 and you can go through all of the links that I've posted for you and go ahead and please read under the austerity heading, please read the moment of truth memo because this is what's coming down on you. At least in Gitmo Nation, United States of America and the sales team is out there and they are selling it to you and it is being snowed under by bull crap. Bull crap like WikiLeaks and bull crap like the NASA fake announcement of whatever. aliens. I mean, and by the way, one of the services we provide, and I get this based on the feedback we get from listeners who do contribute,

2:21:42 is that we help you, you know a lot of people go out there and they watch the news and they see what we're seeing it doesn't get deconstructed much and then it gets pounded by other news sources and they come away thinking, gee this doesn't make any sense to me but it must be true and what we've done is we've tried to make you realize that your original thoughts are correct, that it's bogus And we do the best job we can of that and a lot of people appreciate it. They know that they can listen to the show and they all of a sudden realize that what they're getting from the media is a bunch of propaganda or at best, and uh... and just horrible information at worst and uh... and they'd come away i think a little more secure in their own beliefs i mean this like the you know it's like wine tasting when you get a pallet you know what you're doing you don't agree robert parker telling you to buy this wine when you can taste for yourself that is either good or not well that's an interesting analogy it is all and that it is on a high note john uh... i purchased the book eighteen acres

2:22:45 yesterday. And? It's a very good book. About what? 18 Acres is written by a former White House press secretary. She's kind of hot. She was on Fox. That's where I saw it. Oh, that's what's her name? Yeah. What's her name? She was the one who got into the beef with Palin. Yeah, whatever. But she wrote a novel about the 45th president of the United States. Right, a woman president. Yeah, she's been all over the place with that book. It's a really good... it's sexy. It's a good book and it's... and of course the president... Chitlit. Yeah, and of course the president, the female president, her husband is cheating on her. It's like Hillary Clinton except... It's about Hillary Clinton, yeah. Except this one is hot. It's a really good book so I'll let you know how it ends. I'll spoil it for you on Sunday's show.

2:23:35 Alright, I'm well. Yeah, I always just read the last page and I'm done with it. That's one way of doing it I'm actually reading through it. Yeah, I mean yeah, I had to read that nullification book, and I had enough of Stuff to do yeah My brain is so fried. There's so much apparently yes, you're done much stuff to do oh boy Alright, so anyway. We do appreciate your support of the show and please continue that on many of the lucky donations we have Karma can be coming your way and Based upon what I told you right after the second half of the show you may want to consider that $33.33 boarding pass on the mothership. I'm just saying

2:24:21 I am the man continuously wanted by Interpol, former Russian and Soviet spy in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. My name is Adam Curry. And I'm KJ6LNG. We can talk about that sometime in the future. By the way, everyone should get their own call letters and become a radio amateur. And in case something bad happens, you will be able to talk to people and get out of town. You know the routes. I'm also known as John C. Dvorak. And we will talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on NO Agenda.