30:39 Yeah, it's just weird. It's really weird. It's sad sad days good times are gone. Yeah That's because the government has taken over as we now know with the as we read and try to understand better by the way I did get some more notes on the 10th amendment thing that we're promoting and and again this little thing that was written a couple years ago we're trying to promote that yeah nobody else is trying to promote although i have to say that got the virginia governor this guy robert bob mcdonnell uh... it seems to be uh... part of uh... yeah uh... that would be virginia pulled a quick one on obama and their uh... health care plan
31:21 They passed a law before the health care plan passed, a Virginia law that says nobody can force you to buy insurance. Right, well this is exactly, this is the right thing to do. So they passed this, and so as soon as Obamacare was passed, they sued the government using the 10th Amendment as their basis. And I got a couple clips here that are kind of enlightening, and I want to bring out a few more. And obviously this Robert McDonald is partly behind this. He's the newer governor there. And I want to say, what's interesting to me is now you're starting to see subtle propaganda aimed at Virginia.
32:00 specifically like UFOs flying over it well I thought the UFO so much but you got in foreign policy magazine is a very negative blog posting and there's it's just they make Virginia look like a bunch of old Confederate Whack job tonight. Can I just for our foreign listeners who may be new and I do see new some new people in the chatroom no agenda chat net is What we're talking about here is the Tenth Amendment. It is a part of the United States Constitution our constitutional laws because the way the United States was originally set up and still should be today is the states have their own rules
32:36 rules and laws that precede or overrule anything the federal government may try to do. In fact, the federal government really can't impose anything on the states, but this has been forgotten. Unless, wait, unless it's specifically in the Constitution or has something to do with the laws in the Constitution, like fine-tuning them. Right, okay. And so forcing the purchasing of insurance which well and of course this is why we have a president who was a constitutional lawyer he says uh... is because you know words matter you twist stuff around and say well this is a under the constitutional uh... for the general good of the population something is not it is not what they would they sold this as that the government can make this rule and force us to buy insurance well actually the government uses a couple different things typically to ram their federal legislation down the throats of the public
33:31 one is the commerce commerce clause right which is the fact that anything has to do with with anything that goes on between the states can be governed by the federal government which is what they're gonna try to do with the marijuana thing which we'll talk about later if it passes the government's gonna come right after california for using the commerce clause saying that what you're not to be able to keep it in california and somebody's gonna scoot take some of the dope they buy in california and sell it in nevada so now it's subject to the commerce clause as we're going to do The other one is the taxation laws, and that's what they're trying to pull with this thing that Virginia did. And I want to, before I play the McDonald clip where he talks about the 10th Amendment, this beautiful clip, which I thought was just hilarious, was Greta Van Susteren did this report, by the way.
34:15 and it was uh... let's see what is the name of this clear is called the health bear the health care bill now if you remember when they uh... as a new tax when if you remember when they passed it they said no no no it's not a tax and you know you you know you get it find if you don't have to buy and help by the i a r s it's not a time to hire a simple the i a r s will find you if i a r s of i was not a taxes that taxes not attacks because obama said there's no new taxes so play this clip one of the questions came up today which is i guess is my favorite is the question is that when this was passed as i recall the house and the senate those people in favor and the president of the united states said no no no this is not a tax they were emphatic about it the politicians because no one wanted to raise taxes now though the lawyers are in court for the federal government the justice department and now they say
35:08 It is a tax. That's right. There's a little bit of a little they should talk to each other a little bit. But why does it matter if it's a tax or not? Well, first of all, I call that a flop flip because they started with the right position. A flop flip is supposed to be a flip flop or he calls it a flop. And it's not a tax. And it matters because Congress has the power to tax. So if this is a tax. the legislation is saved under the taxing power even if they didn't have the power to do it as a regulation of commerce under the Commerce Clause. So this is their fallback provision. That's the significance in this case of the tax argument. In terms of looking at the statute, the House originally used the word tax. It went over to the Senate and the Senate quickly got rid of the word tax. So the final bill, does it use the word tax at all?
35:52 at all not to describe the failure to buy the government mandated health insurance there are all kinds of taxes in the final bill but if you don't buy the government approved health insurance what is assessed against you in the bill is called a penalty not a tax right or a fine yeah right which is by the way we have you know I was listening to somebody the other day going on about how we have the lowest taxes in the world please please brother way that it was like highest we have the hot probably the highest in the world if you count all the the various uh... you know levies like uh... you know fines and penalties and and screwball taxes on your gasoline airport i i i i went to a car it's been i went down to a d m v to register the uh... and the stop the sob in my name i have the uh... nineteen ninety nine sob niner three convertible with the lights always on
36:46 And, um, I paid three grand for this thing. I had a usage fee, a usage fee, which I guess is another word for tax, of $460! That's like 11% of the price of the car! What is the usage fee? What is that? It's a tax, it's just a way to take your money. It doesn't do anything, it just goes right into the tax coffers. It was, it was like, what?! $460 is that a percentage tax or is that a... Nah, they just nick you for anything they can. And you paid it, didn't you? Well I had to! Yeah, yeah. Otherwise you... No car for you, snake! Yeah, now the government's got it. Yeah, but, but it, who, how does, what is this based upon? The car is... Nothing!
37:31 This is like, you know, you rent a car in this country and it's like, oh great, you're paying $19 a day and you walk out of there, it's $65 a day. There's the airport tax, there's the lot tax, there's the feed tax, there's the usage tax, and there's this fee and that fee and the other fee and the next thing you know you pay twice as much and the... I mean, it's ridiculous. You know what I do when I... I don't rent cars anymore barely, but I'll fart in the seat and smoke just to spite them. Well, ripoffs doesn't you know, there's that what there is to make is not that it's not the rental car company feel better Okay with that if that works, okay. Well, here's Robert McDonald Virginia governor discussing what they did part of it and how important the Tenth Amendment is and how we've just completely dropped the ball on this and Apparently Virginia's picked it up
38:18 Governor, nice to see you. And the Commonwealth of Virginia, you're taking on the big guys, you're taking on the feds. In health care? Yeah. It's, there's a number of things that we're looking at that we're trying to restore some meaning to the 10th Amendment. And frankly, just to try to do locally what's best for the people of Virginia. Mr. Jefferson said the government closest to the people governs best. Well, that's Richmond and not Washington. So yeah, the federal health care bill, it's about health care, but the lawsuit that we have filed is really more about what is the balance of power between the state and the federal government? Is the Congress clause so broad that it could have a mandate by Congress that would deprive you of your property if you failed to buy insurance? And so that's what's at stake here. And I think over these next months and years we're going to have a very robust debate in this country about
39:10 what are the limits of federal power? What does the 10th Amendment mean? And if it means something, let's get it restored to rebalance the state federal power. Well, it's sort of interesting because you have the health care battle. And in the course of the health care battle, you do have sort of the states, the Commonwealth of Virginia as well, sort of rising up almost against the power of the big federal government. And that seems to be sort of a shift. We haven't seen much of that lately. I think for probably 60, 70 years the federal courts have upheld acts of both Democrat and Republican Congress that have probably, in my view, overstepped the bounds of Madison and Jefferson.
39:51 and Mason put in place some 230 years ago. And so this is what you're seeing now, particularly with this rapid march to the left this Congress has taken over the last couple of years with things like health care. So now he's not the most erudite with this Tenth Amendment thing. He knows there's something going on. He's boring is what he is. Boring. He's a little on the boring side. It's not working that way. And she doesn't really understand that there's a movement afoot. I mean she's just kind of like playing along, you know, she's a lawyer anyway. She's mostly concerned with the law. She's got the weirdest face. Well, she's had a facelift which makes her look even weirder. I don't know if Rhea's had a facelift? It's just weird. Yeah, she has a weird face. But anyway, the point is... It doesn't matter. I like her. We're missing out. I mean, this Tenth Amendment thing still hasn't caught