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00:01 Does Tylenol kill snakes? Well, in high doses it'll kill you. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, October 3rd, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 240. This is no agenda. Hiding from the 15 Chinooks patrolling the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from the Pacific Northwest Hideout, Where by the way we got started at 901. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! You see, we've been married so long John that I expected you to say are you ready? And I figured I'd surprise you by being ready. I kind of missed the fat woman singing. No, no, no. You always say, who cares? It's five after nine. Let's get started. Let's do it. No, no, no.

00:59 But if you want I can do it. That's exactly the way I sound. Yes! Again, when you're married for as long as we've been married then you know you can actually emulate each other. It's a beautiful thing. Well in the morning to you John, all ships at sea and... Human resources! In the chat room at noagendachat.net. Hope you're all charged up. Our human resource officers are moderating. Ready to spank you. And it's a commemorative week. Oh it is? Yes, it's the Rick Sanchez commemorative week. I gotta tell you that this is great. So Rick Sanchez, for those of you who do not know, is a guy... actually I bought his book and I read about half of it. That he was Hawking, this... what is it?

01:46 Inconvenient Sanity or something? I can't remember. Inconvenient Sanity. I gotta look up the name of this book. No, you are a... People should... I want to tell everyone, please donate to the show, Dvorak.org slash N-A because anybody who's as dedicated as Adam to go out and read the Rick Sanchez book deserves support. I wasn't even going to think... I wasn't even going to look at it. No, no. Well, the thing is I got it on iBooks. It's called... Here it is. conventional idiocy. There you go. Conventional idiocy. And I start reading this book and I'm like...

02:25 The guy really is a dick. I mean he's like, you know, well what will you do? I'm not just an anchor who reads the teleprompter. I will read your tweets and we really get into the L-shows. And it wasn't until I listened to this 20 minute piece of audio, which of course we're not going to play any of. Oh no, we have to play some because I clipped together. Oh my god. Hold on a second. Oh my god. I took pieces from the thing and I clipped them together so seamlessly And I want to warn people that this is edited. Yeah, oh, okay. Unlike mainstream news. Before we play, let me just say, so what has happened here is the story is...

03:07 and I have a different theory but the story is that he got fired because he was on Sirius XM, alright, which no one listens to except for the Howard Stern show. They were on Sirius XM and he apparently said according to the reports Jews run the media. Yeah, that's kind of what he said. That's not what he said but okay so you've kind of what he said. You have three minutes and 55 seconds of this douchebag? It's so seemly, you can play it and cut and play it and cut but you should at least play it so people know what we're talking about because the douchebaggery is kind of high emphasis on this. And we both have always felt this guy was just an unwatchable, in fact he's such an unwatchable douchebag that you have to watch him. You just sit there and go, oh my god!

03:56 And he's always talking about, you know when I was growing up and my daddy, you know, he worked on the truck and we had to drive 5,000 miles and then the woman that at the rich woman ladies house spit on us. She wouldn't let me use the bathroom. I had to go outside and drink from the creek. People spit on us. Now he's a Cuban immigrant, I believe, right? Well, that's what he says. I never knew, I never thought, I thought he just was a white guy who changed his name to Sanchez to get more work. Quite the opposite is true because apparently at CNN, no was it the ABC, no at CNN they feel that if you're if you are if you're a Hispanic you should be a Hispanic news reporter and not an anchor who doesn't read teleprompter. The curious thing is that the guy who was his mentor brought him up was fired the week before

04:48 And so they did now that he was gone. I didn't know that who was that the can well Let me see this is kind of ironic because the guy's name is Jonathan Klein. He's Jewish. Can you just turn down your? Turn down your speakers here just a little bit. I'm not allowed to play that one anymore hold on Okay, just a little bit just cuz it's grating oh Yeah, but okay. So anyway, so this guy Jonathan Klein was his mentor and his you know, his his his supporter He was the go-to guy and also and also a Cuban immigrant

05:26 So Klein was fired last week, the week before, and so now they're thinking, what are we going to do about this Sanchez guy? We gotta get rid of him. And so they're just waiting for something for him to screw up. He should have just laid low, which he didn't do, and then they got rid of him. That was the end of it. You know what Nikki said? She hates the guy. Rickslist, you know, I watch Rickslist every day. Like, I gotta watch Rickslist because I can't believe what's happening on television. And when he said yeah, we got fired for apparently saying that Jews run the media, he said, oh I actually gained some respect for the guy now. It's like, okay, all right. Yeah, well it'll get you fired if you're, you know, but the guy, Klein is Jewish, I mean the whole thing is ludicrous. But he didn't even say that. It's so ridiculous. You know why Sanchez got fired? Because he sucked! That's why he got fired. The guy just sucked. Love you baby.

06:15 I agree. Suck! The guy sucks! And he never actually said it but he implied it to such an extreme that it was a good excuse and besides that wasn't the only thing he said he was just he was acting like a jerk he was whining. He's a douchebag! He sucks! He sucks! The guy just totally sucks! I'll play a bit of the clip. Play the clip. I think to a certain extent John Stewart and Colbert are the same way. I think Jon Stewart's a bigot. I think he looks at the world through his mom, who was a schoolteacher, and his dad, who was a physicist or something like that. Great! I'm so happy that he's... Did you have your vibrator on when you recorded this?

07:01 You know, I have an unbalanced line up here and it creates a slight hum. Turn down your dildo! I grew up in a suburban middle-class New Jersey home with everything that you could ever imagine. What group is he bigoted towards? Everybody else who's not like him. Look at his show, I mean what does he surround himself with? I think John's show is essentially prejudicial. I think that John's show... The word prejudicial came up 18 times. I can't even pronounce it. Prejudicial. You just did. Well, I have to work on it prejudicial which means Prejudiced it means bigoted. Why didn't you say bigoted so much easier? But the word he you know The other guy implies that the word you know bigoted if you look up the deaf look up right now go look up on websters.com bigoted and read the definition Don you you got me? Hold on. All right bigoted Loading bigot even no bigoted. It's got it's got results

08:08 utterly intolerant of any creed, belief or opinion that differs from one's own. Is that it? Yeah, that's all it is. Right. But now if you have an opinion, but it doesn't have to be just your all your opinions. If you have one opinion, as I was explaining to the kids last night, say you don't like butter, you bigot. I hate butter. Oh, I think butter's good. No, no, butter sucks. I think it's terrible. I would never think it's terrible. You're a butter bigot. You're a butter bigot. A butter bigot. So what? You're a butter bigot. So bigot is not really a bad word is what you're saying. Words matter here on the No Agenda Show. I don't think it's a bad word, but I think it's used as a bad word. What it always, in the popular context, it implies

08:55 some sort of racist thing. But he says, oh the guy that southern senator is a bigot. There's an assumption of racism in the word in the word used itself. But prejudicial is more like is prejudgmental. Who cares? It's true against anybody who doesn't agree with his point of view which is very much a white liberal establishment point of view. You can't relate to a guy like me. He can't relate to a guy whose dad worked all his life He can't relate to somebody who here he goes here. He goes with it his dad worked out my dad worked all his life, too So did mine gee I can't relate Crazy Whoa whoa whoa whoa? Careful with the word bigot I'd be I'll take the word bigot back. I'll say prejudice what I did because big it's such a bad word you're uninformed

09:49 Because Mark Twain said that you don't really become a man until you've had a child, planted a tree, and written a book. Did Mark Twain really say that? I have not found it. I looked for it too. I was pooping before the show and I was listening to this and Mark Twain said you have to have a child. What was it? Have a child... Write a book, plant a tree. No, write a child, plant a tree, write a book. I'm like, Okay, and then the funny thing about Sanchez here he says He says so I wrote a book Maybe I didn't Google it right. I can't find it. I can't find this Maybe somebody in the chat room or whatever someone can find that this quote yeah from what I believe He just made up he made it up to he just wants to equate himself to Mark Twain well. I've read your book inconvenient douchebag whatever it's called

10:48 conventional idiocy that's exactly what it is you know Mark Twain and that stuck with me a long long time ago and I've always wanted to write a book and because I'm not and because you know you can sell it wait let me get back to the Jon Stewart thing you ready oh yeah you said it this is the thing that fascinates me the most about this is the reason I want to play this clip is that he brought out his, he had his two or three slams of Jon Stewart and this, and the interviewer was gonna take him down some other path and then we're gonna keep talking about mostly about you know his background or whatever. And this guy latches on and insists on going back to the topic so he can slam Stewart more and then get himself into a heap of trouble. He basically got himself fired at this very moment.

11:38 Your anger, your concerns and frustrations is what inspired me to write this book. From you I hear what is really on the minds of ordinary Americans. What you're thinking, what you're talking about, and above all, what you're sick of. From the bankers who recklessly gambled with our money, to the politicians who play on our worst fears and prejudices, to the media demagogues who spread ignorance for ratings. Here's my point, wait I'm not done! Rick Sanchez calls Jon Stewart a bigot, it's going viral. Okay, it's not bigot, it's prejudicial. Here's the other point about that. Now what the hell was I gonna say? I was gonna talk, okay. You said you wanted to go back to Jon Stewart. I have a lot, I have a lot to say.

12:23 and unfortunately it's all uninteresting I don't have a lot yeah so Eric came up with the with he thinks his HL or he says it's HL Mencken who made that quote hmm Eric also wanted you to unplug your phone hey I sent the bat signal the phone is unplugged anybody receive the bat signal I don't think the bat signal went out for some reason. Oh, send it again. Let me try it again. Anyway, I can't listen to this guy anymore. Can we just stop? It gets better. It's almost done. I've already heard it this morning. Because of my life experiences, because of what I've done in my life, because of the way I've grown up, because of my failures, because of my successes. I am the American hero. I am the American dream, damn it. And when you turn on

13:13 a show or listen to someone's writings and they minimize it. Listen? When you're listening to their writings? On audible.com. He's a shill for audible. And treat you like you don't matter like you're just a piece of You're just a dumb like you're a dumb jock or a dumb woman or a dumb Puerto Rican I love this he goes from dumb jock which is not anything you know that's just someone who does sports to a dumb woman and Then all of a sudden you're a wetback. It's like he took that really far. I'm Cuban or another dumb Mexican. We know wait a minute stop

13:50 He says a woman, a dad, or another dumb Mexican as though there's bunches of them. Or a dumb Puerto Rican, or a dumb Cuban, or another dumb Mexican. which is the way I feel whenever I watch Jon Stewart I can't help but say and then you just asked me why I wrote this book I wrote this book because I want people to know that I don't just sit there and read the teleprompter I am a complex human being see this is why he got fired because that's your job your job is to sit there and read the teleprompter on CNN this is why you got canned it had nothing to do with with anything about this interview it's because you suck and you go off script and you just suck

14:29 The stream's dead. No, it's not dead. It's twitchy. He didn't say it's dead. It's twitchy. Okay, go ahead. I mean just it's a loose wire somewhere support the show. I'm not some some moron to be. Why are you being so sensitive? Why do you? Because I'm tired of him. Yeah, but he's. Because I'm tired of being of being bullied he should have put the pull out the bully card on this one I thought yeah he should have an entertainer but but but no he wouldn't pick on me if I didn't matter every he wouldn't pick up if I was just if I was just the the the Hispanic guy who read the news at CNN and paid attention and just read the teleprompter every day very carefully and never said anything never had a personality

15:12 then I'd be fine. He wouldn't pick on me. And very few of us will say the things that I've just said are actually more complex than they think we are. And we get that. Stuart's a minority, as much as you are. He's... come on. How is he a minority? Yeah. Yeah. Very powerless people. Whoa. Such a minority, I mean, you know, please what are you kidding? He's he's you're telling me that I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart and a lot of people who run. Oh, okay. There you go. So that's how people come up with the he said Jews run CNN. Yeah. Yeah. All the other networks are a lot like Stewart and to imply that somehow they the people in this country who are Jewish or an oppressed minority.

15:58 Yeah, they have a history of oppression. No, no question about that Rick. I gotta go because I gotta take okay He did kind of say it there, but that's not why he got fired. He got fired because he sucks No, they were wait. No, let's face it once his mentor left He was fair game because this happens in this happens in magazines and happens all the time They're just waiting for a reason to fight with me at MTV was my hair and all and finally they just decided if you don't cut your hair You're fired. I'm fine fire me seven times that happened. There you go. But the point is in all broadcasting, all media, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio, when the guy who supported you, brought you in, you're his guy, when he's gone, the likelihood of you sticking around is zero. Alright, alright. Well then that's why, and of course CNN is a commercial entity, and that's why I'm so happy we have struck upon a completely different way of doing business here.

16:56 Because we don't have the only person who could affect this show by by being gone is you or me No one else there's no uberlords. There's nothing else Nothing gonna happen. Oh, maybe Paul Couture. Oh yeah, if Paul Couture left then we're totally gonna be getting out of it in half a month. Then we're dead. Yeah, that's true. Because he does check in today, doesn't he? So we have to be careful. Yeah, that's true. He could be lording it over us. Yeah, we need some more Paul Coutures because we're in a very precarious situation here with only one guy basically supporting the show entirely. So, well we call him a patron. So Paul Couture, we do have one executive producer and one, two, three associates this week and the executive producer again is Paul Couture who is... Sir Paul. Sir Paul, I'm sorry. Sir Paul who is working on, and we gotta by the way, we have a mailing going out or people can email us.

17:50 If you're a knight expecting your ring, we need your ring size. Now how does one size your finger? Well, you're going to have to go to a jeweler and stick your finger in a hole. It's a ring sizing hole. They usually have this little stick with a whole bunch of rings on it and you put your finger into the various rings until you find your size. and that we need your size and the problem we're gonna have here is is the following as i can do already tell you based on the fact that people don't answer their email we have about a hundred nights right now and and each one of them will will send a mailing or to make this announcement and we're gonna do it again on the thursday show about a third of them will not

18:39 reply under any circumstances, maybe by a direct mail. Right. You're gonna get a size 7 ring if you don't say anything, I believe. I think that's the most common size. I could be wrong. Whatever the average size is, is what you're gonna get. But we would like your ring size and then we can get these rings made because they have to be sized and they're gonna, you know... You can have them sized, I think within one size, a jeweler can stretch a ring or shrink it. within a size. Well no he can't because this is reared in steel. It's not reared in steel. It's un-sizeable. If it was reared in steel, yes it would be a problem. So anyway, so we need your ring sizes and so be on the lookout for an email or send us an email at Dvorak.org, john at Dvorak.org, you know, or adam at Mevio.com. No, no, it's adam at curry.com. Adam at curry.com.

19:31 and uh... how is that curry doing by the way four twenty four twenty is what the pollack came up with this uh... show and uh... he's the executive producer scott singer from polak in uh... wisconsin is the associate producer with that two and fifty dollars he says this is an is for the invaluable adam curry john devorak uh... sucking noise so This is partially to correct John's pronunciation of Waukesha, Wisconsin. Locals pronounce it Wau-ke-sha, no E as in P. So it's pronounced Wau-ke-sha. Many Wisconsin cities and towns are named after Native American sayings.

20:16 uh, or tribes I would assume. If you can pronounce Pawake correctly, I'll give you a bonus donation. Remember, Mill- Millie Waukee is Algonquin for the good land. I'm sure you've seen Wayne's World. Wayne's World. So Pawake is the way I think it's pronounced. Alright. Alright. Uh, Sander, and you can pronounce his last name. That's a beauty. It's actually Sander Auekerk. Sander... Sander Auekerk. Sander Auekerk. Sander Auekerk. Sander... Sounder. No, just don't mess with it. Just say Sounder. That's what I'm saying. Sounder. No, not Sounder. Sounder. Sounder. Ourkerk. Ourkerk. There's no R there. Whatever. Whatever. He's in Amsterdam. Good man. Yes. Hey Adam and John, here's my first step towards knighthood. Digging your show big time. Enjoying Adams.

21:06 Adam and the crews visit to Amsterdam crowded to the Amsterdam crowd recently Yeah, there's the no agenda Dutch no agenda meeting want to say a special hello and love to all great Pakistani people that we met in our travels through Pakistan especially in the Civil small here car car car a Quran mountain range bordering on China for their hospitality in front of this which is heartwarming They have links to al-qaeda there. How's that possible? I think I felt that would be worth it. Not according to our State Department. No, irrespective of differences in religious beliefs, if any, I hope for the Pakistani people the world does help out in the tragedy caused by the recent floods and earthquake machine. Otherwise, you did enlighten me up on topics like vaccines, government bailout, wealth transfer, and the subliminal hypnotic functioning of some TV shows. Keep it up. Greetings from Amsterdam. Sonder, our Kerk.

21:56 Zig management which stands for Zion in hoodl grunt PSM PS Adam next time you're here could we organize a donation raising discussion dinner if you're up for it You know I want to do that, but only if John's there I really didn't feel good at the meeting without without having John there. You know John I'm going to It seems like some portions of gitmo nation are not receiving the stream and other parts are? It's probably because of the streaming mechanism. Or parts of the net might be down. It's really weird. I don't know what to do here. Yeah, there's nothing you can do when only half, when half the people are getting it and the other half aren't. I don't know what to do. Well, I know what we can do. We can mention Jared Forrester, who's from Regina, rhymes with Saskatchewan, Canada.

22:58 $211 and he I guess he was at the Dutch no agenda meeting there all the way from Regina. That's right. I met him He flew in specifically for the meeting from really yeah, that's a dedicated guy Yeah, any excuse to go to Holland. I think the Stuxnet has finally hit our streaming server. That's that's what it is That could be. Anyway, I want to thank all these producers and associates. Yes, so are you. Supporting the show. Yes, executive producer Sir Paul Couture, associate executive producer Scott Singer, Sondra Auerkerk and Jared Forrester. All of you can put this on your resume. Paul Couture's resume is now five pages long.

23:38 Sir Paul, but of course some of the other associate executive producers no stranger to the credits. They are real credits That's why we do them because you actually paid for the show So you're supporting it so put that on your resume in your email signature and on your IMDB profile everybody else out there God propagate our formula. It is very simple our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth all right Say it loud and proud with me now Shut up, Steve! What's the name of our streaming host again? I have to log in and I gotta kick the server. Uh... What is it called again? NoagendaStream.com? No, no, no, the host. I don't know. You never told me. I'm completely unaware of the host name. Boy, oh boy. I'm just drawing a total blank on it. Oh, that sucks.

24:40 You should have it written down. Well, normally I know it by heart, but it's like... Don't you have a... what have you been using? Well, no, I have a... the place where I log in to manage it is a different place from the streaming provider. Oh, I'm just totally blank and chatroom knows what it is. That's really dumb, I'm sorry. If I remember the name of our fucking streaming provider, I could log in. That just says it's like one of those, like, forgetting your password because you never have to remember it because it's been working so well automatically. Oh, Primcast. There it is. I got it. Hold on. Primcast. What's the name of it? Primcast. P-R-I-M. Prim. P-R-I-M-C-A-S-T dot com. My guess is they're having a problem at the site. Maybe. Let me see. Let me just sign in. Oh boy.

25:45 Well, while you're doing all that, I'm going to talk about something. Well, you know what? I'm logging in now. There's really one thing we need to talk about because just as this show was going live, all of the predictions from the media, as if they didn't know, they just had an embargo on when they could actually send it out, came true. The United States State Department has issued a warning A terrorist alert warning to all Americans in Europe. Be vigilant, be very very vigilant. Because there could be a Mumbai style attack. Now I have some thoughts about this. At the Ritz-Carlton. I have some thoughts about this. So, the State Department issued, and it came to me this morning really suddenly, the State Department issues a warning, you have to be vigilant,

26:47 Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, subsequently raises their terror threat level. But the message is there could be a Mumbai-style attack. Now I'm thinking to myself, why do they say that? Why do they not say there could be an attack just like July 7th in London or like the Madrid train bombing? No, they don't say that. They say there could be a Mumbai-style attack. And then it hit me, of course, it's to call out Pakistan. So again, it's a whole move to link Pakistan to Al-Qaeda because you know, even though of course it was CIA operatives and a complete black flag, false flag operation that took place in Mumbai. We know how the CIA works with the ISI.

27:39 They're just another chunk in the armor there to do something nasty to Pakistan. A chunk in the armor or a chink in the armor? Yeah, a chink, chink, chunk, whatever. Well, we've been talking about this because it's not hard to figure out that the Pakistanis are a target. We have, there's a couple things going on. I have actually one clip kind of, I didn't get what I really wanted from this clip because I couldn't find it. but uh... the head of the uh... i guess he's armed forces of eleven the guy who's he gave a big talk in front of uh... the uh... uh... what on c-span and he talked about you know the what we're gonna do about uh... getting out of afghanistan and and and without too much mention of pakistan but he did bring up a uh... i've been following the tweets of the ambassador i've got to tell us and i'll follow the tweets of the ambassador from

28:39 from Pakistan to the US and he's bitching and moaning constantly. And who is this? What clip are we playing? Well, I think, unfortunately I got the spreadsheet open. Let me see what the clips look like. Well, let's play the 11 clip which is the clip where he the senators talking about how we're going to get out of or not get out of Afghanistan. General Petraeus has referred to July 2011 as a date when reductions are scheduled to begin or that lacks certainty. He has said that his agreement with the date quote was based on projections of conditions.

29:21 in July 2011, suggested that those projections might be faulty. General Petraeus' comments last month, raising the possibility that he may recommend against any reductions next July, got front page deed story coverage in the New York Times. General Conway, the outgoing Marine Commandant, has said that, quote, it will be a few years before the Marines can hand over any territory to the Afghan. And Woodward quotes General Petraeus as telling Lieutenant General Doug Lute at the White House, quote, all we have to do is begin to show progress and that will be sufficient to add time to the clock and we will get what we need. Now, it's true that some of these statements are in part attempts to reassure leaders in the region

30:06 that the United States will not abandon Afghanistan starting next July. And it's perfectly natural and understandable for military commanders to seek maximum flexibility in carrying out orders and to voice their well-known reluctance to have firm deadlines. But these comments also insert ambiguity into what was designed by the president as an unambiguous signal to the Afghans that they must move urgently. And I've tried everywhere I could to build resistance to the pressure, to turn a date certain into a goal or something based on conditions rather than what it is.

30:55 Okay, now so here's the deal this was in front of the Council on foreign relations by the way And what did you record this with your telephone? So that one had the same buzz on it, but I filtered the buzz which also was a notch filter So you end up with that good job. Yeah. Yeah, I'm an expert yeah, so anyway, so he's a he's the head of the farm services committee He is he is on the side of actually getting out of But this but he's pointing out in this little speech he's giving that they're sending mixed messages because the because a lot of people don't want to get out and the one thing he left out is the fact that Gates said we'll never leave.

31:33 which we I think discussed last couple shows ago yeah yeah we're never gonna and so the situation is that seems to me and you can go on with you finish what you were doing but I just want to throw this at my kind of take on what's what's kind of happening we've already talked about Pakistan being somehow you know a target I'm seeing it's I'm still seeing the battle between staying on behalf of the CIA to permanently establish the drug roots which we have talked about or getting the hell out of there and letting the CIA stay on their own without our people there to help them or whatever. I'm not sure, but there seems to be a divide here that is kind of, they're beating around the bush about it, but Levin kind of hints about it, about one side wants to get out and one side wants to stay, but he doesn't really make it as clear as he could. Sounds to me like it's contract renegotiation time for a lot of these guys.

32:31 And for the companies that are there and all the contractors. It seems like... When was this recorded? This was recorded... This last week. Because you know they just passed that bill which was done kind of in the middle of the night where they all agreed to continue to run the government even though we have no budget. Yeah. So it sounds like it's a money thing. Like everyone's like, well, you know, we should get out. Although, you know, dude, you're not gonna pay my bills. We're gonna get out. Seriously, it has nothing to do with terrorism. Let's be fair about that.

33:10 Well anyway, I'm not gonna disagree with that. So what are you saying? Okay, so here's what I'm saying for the slaves out there first of all been another bin Laden tape No link no recording. No nothing. Oh my my I thought it was two tapes. That's three No, it was three three tapes. So the now we have the it's now available on audible.com But seriously, you cannot every single Every single report about it Does not actually contain a link to where this was found or any any recording you never hear You know you watch television. I'm like okay. Why don't you just play me a little clip? They play a clip of everything else no matter what language it is no no we can we can't receive this apparently New York Times the true ministry of truth writes bin Laden resurfaces in recordings and he says quote

34:09 We are in need of a big change in the method of relief work because the number of victims is great due to climate change in modern times. So clearly he's on Gore's payroll. I'm very skeptical about Ben Lott discussing climate change. Anyway here's the alert and they actually take this to a whole new level and now they're bringing Afghanistan back in so maybe we can connect the uh... all these house resolutions which is basically yeah we can we continue ever going to continue got the budget okay we continue after the election will take care of the time where we do that the money will be okay we're good for with united states anthony wiener by the way presiding over these uh... that was his turn at the at the gavel but now of course are going to link these mumbai style attacks to uh... the afghanistan

34:59 What do you know about this heightened concern about possible terrorist threats? Where is this coming from? Well, it's not clear exactly where it's coming from, but what we do know is that a young Afghan German named Ahmed Siddiqui who attended this mosque here behind me, that's now been closed by German federal authorities, is in US captivity in Kabul. He was captured in the summer and he's been telling his US captors that about the possibility of a Mumbai style attack in various European cities. So it's possibly this could be the linkage we've talked to counter-terrorism sources here in this city. Love how they do this. We've talked, you know, just for people who listen to this show, this is this is the stuff that we need to point out. When a reporter on CNN

35:51 Says we talked to security officials Anti-terrorism officials, but they don't mention them by name. It's because it's bullshit It's it's they got issued talking points a press release whatever you never ever hear We spoke to this guy his name is his rank is and this is what he's responsible for no No, because we're in Afghanistan and we've got our sources over there. This is this is how bullshit works Take it a little further in an explanatory manner first of all Journalists covering stuff, something like this, would normally hide the source if it was like some sort of, you know, thing that would get the person in trouble. But the fact of the matter is how would this get anybody in trouble if you cited them? Unless it was total bullshit. Right. Yeah.

36:44 Exactly. We digress. Counter-terrorism sources here in this city, and they say that as far as they know, Sidiqui is telling his American captors what they say is new information every day. Every day he's providing new information. They think it could be because he wants to try and be released into German custody, that he wants to come back home. from what they understand, they say, as far as they know, there is no imminent threat here in Germany at this particular time. How concerned should people be about this information, about possible threats coming out, and what should they be doing? Okay, here's the message. Be afraid, you slaves!

37:31 Well, we talked to Ahmed Siddiqui's family today, to his sister in particular, and they say the only information they're learning about him is through the media, and that they're shocked about it. But what she did say was that when they talked to him in the summer, shortly before he was captured in the early summer, he said he was looking forward to coming home, that he was coming home soon. Authorities may well be concerned about some of the other men that traveled from this mosque to Pakistan. So anyway, so if you look at the news now we also have in Germany, in the Netherlands, in the United Kingdom, they're all talking about homegrown terrorism.

38:16 This is a coordinated effort to keep you, the slave, afraid. Nothing has to happen. They don't have to do a single thing except all of this mumbo-mumbi-jumbo and bring up, conjure up images of armed gunmen shooting up the Ritz. In a Mumbai style attack right and don't forget the Mumbai style attack includes going room to room saying are you an American? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, good point. Yeah, good point. Very good point. I'd forgotten about that one So it's it's just like wow, man. I just can't believe and they don't have to actually do anything They just have to say it. Oh, you know, it's not actually a travel advisory. It's just a stern warning and

39:02 And Gitmo Nation East immediately warned their British subjects about traveling to France and Germany. And I think that's, there's been a problem with those three for a number of years. I mean, you know, one of the things going on, which is a bit maybe a maybe a parallel thing. I'm not sure it has anything to do with with this overall scheme just to scare people there. But I think it relates to the trains. Good planes, bad really, which is the fact is there's all this anti travel. Do not go anywhere message that underlies all this.

39:40 Because I think that the messaging is not complete enough on a worldwide basis. Because people will go to Europe and they'll come back, like you go to Holland and it's like a whole different world. The news is different, the stories are different, the messaging is different. So it's like, please don't go there and don't get educated. Yeah, don't learn anything. Stay home. It's funny because Mickey said that. She said, it sounds like they just want to keep the American slaves in Gitmo. I said yeah, that's actually that's a pretty decent theory there. Don't learn anything. Plains bad of course makes it impossible. Might as well play the jingle while we're at it right? Yeah, it's a beauty. Wow. Yeah, no, I think there's definitely something to be said for that. But it's all mind control regardless. It's just total mind control that's going. Or psyops I guess is what they'd call it.

40:41 Okay, so I want to talk to get off just a little bit okay and talk about something that's going is this showing up on Netflix as a featured movie And it says it's I watched it again recently, and I'm just shaking my head I don't I've seen this movie two or three times I did but never since we for the lie I haven't seen it for the last maybe decade and I watched it and it is Is this the movie you made me watch yeah? Oh my god? That was pretty rough, man. What is it? Zardoz. Zardoz with Sean Connery. Yeah. Sean Connery with a sock in his crotch. The first half hour of that movie I'm like, oh my god, this is such big cheese ball.

41:32 But it is kind of the elites versus the slaves. That's kind of the whole story there. Yeah, and of course it's got a bloodbath in it, which I forgot all about. It's a good one. The blood bath, it's got psychedelic, I'm absolutely convinced, I don't remember that era for good obvious reasons, but I think on LSD the movie would be much more enjoyable. But it's obviously an LSD movie. It's got a lot of hot naked chicks. lot of tits yet lots of the hush big time that the whole movie has nothing but and and not not fake ones the real it was the end of the depression uh... came out in nineteen seventy nine and it was a really this is before reagan got an office and this was the carter years and this is when they hostage crisis was going on in this one there was stoned on either some psychedelic or cocaine was beginning to be popular he was a it was the end of the era movie

42:31 of those crazy movies from the 1970s, there was a lot of them, they had begun with Easy Rider and ended with Zardoz. Whatever the case, it is a... it's featured on Netflix. It's a timeless classic, I tell you. It's a total piece of crap that is compelling, but it's just amazing. Anyway, yeah, that's the movie. That's our movie pick for the year for our right. Yeah, that would be John C Dvorak's movie pick I however remain with the zombies I Actually speaking of such I forgot two things under the PR heading for today Nick says we need a no agenda drink

43:13 And he proposes the two shots to the head. You can ask for it in your local pub. Here's how you make it. Pour a beer with a good head like a Guinness. Use a large spoon to remove the head from the beer. Place it in a glass. Add two shots of world power vodka. Consume using left hand only I think that's kind of nice the na suicide drink and then section 8 from gitmo nation Middle Earth aka New Zealand says I play an online game called zombie slayer I've changed my name to no agenda show calm and founded team no agenda militia part of the game involves punching other players I've been doing my bit by hitting people in the mouth on a daily basis. Admittedly, a modest effort as far as PR goes, but hopefully an idea that can spread to other games and I totally agree with that. Our Ministry of Truth at WhiteHouse.gov has a new feature, John. A brand new feature.

44:09 It's a new segment. They are their own little news network there. They've got the West Wing Week and of course you've got the President's YouTube speech of the week. And now we have... what's that new guy who came in? The Goolsby? Yeah, John Gruden. No, Goolsby. Oh yeah, I'm sorry, Goolsby. Goolsby, yeah, he came in as the... he replaced Christy Romer, who lied to us about no more than 8%

44:46 unemployment. Right, the woman you hate. With a passion. So Goolsbee also has no real experience in running an actual company. However, he is now drawing on the White House whiteboard, yes, with big red circles which are evil for what the Republicans are doing and little blue circles which are good for what Obama is doing. Notice by the way, it's Obama is going to, well you'll hear it in the clip, Obama is good, Republicans bad. He's not saying Democrats, Republicans, Obama wants to do good for you, Republicans want to do bad for you. Here he is at the white board and of course you can see the actual video at noagendashow.com in the show notes. You may have been following we've got a big back and forth going about the tax cuts. Yeah, you may have been following. What I wanted to do today is just break it down real simple so you... For all you stupid slaves, stupid idiot slaves, we're gonna put it on the white board because you're too dumb to understand it. ...can understand exactly what the debate is about.

45:43 President George Bush passed tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year. And what I've done here is we got a ruler and measured out the size of the tax cut, is how big the circle is, by your income, which is listed at the top. From low incomes up to people who make more than a million dollars a year. Isn't this amazing? Do you just hear what he's saying? Do you just hear how he's talking to you, John? Yeah, like a stupid, stupid idiot slave. Obama would preserve a couple thousand dollars a year tax cuts for virtually all Americans and even for people who make a lot, they get to keep the tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income.

46:26 Under the Republican plan, however, people making more than a million dollars a year, they're going to be getting a tax cut of more than $100,000. A million dollars a year! One hundred thousand! When you don't watch it and you listen to it, how he's really punctuating this, because of course we're all kindergartners and we have to understand how crazy this is. If you have a million dollars, you get a hundred thousand dollar tax cut. That's expensive. Giving these big red eggs to the very high income people would cost 700 billion dollars. Giving these big red eggs... ...dollars that we would have to borrow to give it. If you ask objective economists and analysts around... Who, by the way, we will not mention because there are none... ...in the country about what is effective,

47:18 you will find that everyone agrees that these giant tax breaks, the science is in. Science is in, everybody agrees, everybody knows it. High income people are the least effective thing that we can do to get the economy growing. And so what's happening in Congress is that the people that want this are saying nobody here can get any of these tax cuts unless we agree to give this big red goose egg to the people. Tom and Dick want to split up goose eggs. This one is the big red bad goose egg. You don't want to eat that one. People make more than a million dollars a year. It doesn't make any sense. It costs too much money.

48:09 And then we know it doesn't work. That's right. The science is in! How do we know it doesn't work or works or whatever? Because everyone agrees. Oh, everyone? Wait a minute, Adam, is it everyone who agrees? Everyone agrees! Okay, well if everyone agrees, what can I say? All right, let me just show you how evil these people are. And I'm gonna call out the president right now. Because I have to do this because this was so blatant, so easy. And just a couple of Google searches, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is unbelievable. Un-frickin-believable. So this is the, of course, it's only 30 seconds, this clip. President Obama in his weekly YouTube clip is talking about creating 1,000 jobs

49:00 at this amazing solar power company, amazing in California, I'll have you know, that will power 140,000 homes. And I'm thinking, wow, this is, well let's just listen to him call it out. So this is his statement to the nation, to the world, and he chooses to highlight this company. For example, I want to share with you one new development made possible by the clean energy incentives that we've launched. This month in Mojave Desert, a company called Bright Source plans to break ground on a revolutionary new type of solar power plant.

49:41 It's going to put about a thousand people to work building a state-of-the-art facility. And when it's complete, it will turn sunlight into the energy that will power up to 140,000 homes. The largest such plant in the world. Okay. So it's kind of like him calling out this little shop, right? You're like, wow, okay. Well, that's cool. Yeah, this is something good. Sounds good. So you should go look at Bright Source Energy. And I'm hunting around looking at Bright Source Energy and the first thing I see is their investors. And they have an interesting bunch of investors, all people who are completely tied into the White House. We know from full disclosure records that JP Morgan handles some of the president's money.

50:23 You know he doesn't actually call the shots. So who's invested in this company? Well Morgan Stanley is invested in this company. BP is invested in this company. It's right on their website. Google invested in this company. But here's the kicker John. According to VentureBeat, Bright Source Energy quietly moves toward IPO in early 2011. So the way I'm seeing this is this company which wasn't supposed to go public for three years all of a sudden it raises three hundred thirty million dollars some by the way from vantage point venture partners uh... who just invested in the last two weeks two weeks i think they put in a hundred million dollars there's uh... arguably some of the president's money in their bps money is in there we know how the president was or maybe still is invested through uh... vantage uh...

51:25 an advantage uh Morgan Stanley well Morton and Morgan but there's another one well there's this uh DBL investors I've never heard of them but now all of a sudden they're gonna go public and there's something called a quiet period Right? Which I'm sure we're not in the quiet period yet. But for the president to offhandedly mention this company that without a doubt people who funded his campaign are invested in and is now all of a sudden speeding up their IPO is an absolute atrocity. It is, that's ridiculous. There's no reason for him to be plugging these guys. What have they done? The SEC should block this IPO because the president, he just made it attractive all of a sudden. And they've got like guaranteed government money. I hate this. That really pisses me off. That is just enriching, just enriching yourself blatantly in front of the public. And the president is in on the game and he's smiling.

52:29 Links in the show notes at noagendershow.com. Just correct me if I'm wrong. Did Hillary Clinton not say in her campaign, and I think not just Hillary Clinton, but a number of people said Blackwater would no longer receive government money? I thought Blackwater was cut off, yeah. Yeah, well, turns out they just received a nice chunk. Well, no, no, Blackwater doesn't exist anymore. No, it's a kzee.

53:16 Yeah, well they're different. Well no it's not KZ either. It is a small subsidiary. International Development Solutions. I received a nice little chunk of a 10 billion dollar contract from the State Department. Thanks Hill. Good job. Liars. So, you know, if you dig deep enough, there's a couple other partners that are mentioned deeper into the site on this Bright Energy, whatever it is, this Bright Source. Yeah, Bright Source Energy, yeah. Yeah, which includes PG&E and Bechtel, of course. But then we have the government, apparently. Oh, yeah. Received a conditional commitment for $1.3 billion in loan guarantees from the Department of Energy and Siemens, our old buddies. Oh, really? Oh, nice. Yeah.

54:09 And they're gonna go public. Oh, let's accelerate that. Everyone get in. Come on, everybody get in. Google in. Chevron. Everyone's in. This is like their Christmas present. That's what this is. Hey, let's just all go give ourselves a nice big bonus. And yeah, hey, Eric Schmidt. You advise Barack. Call him over there. Yeah, tell him to put that in his weekly thing. It's good. It's good. That'll really make the investors happy. It's just unbelievable. You know, this is basically an Israeli company. That's the joke of it. Oh yeah, there's lots of Israeli guys in there. On the board, in the management. Uh-huh. I know. In fact, the entire team is all Israeli. Did you see Katherine Heigl? Sketchy. Did you see Katherine Heigl on Letterman? No, I didn't. Oh, well first of all, she's awesome. And she's a smoker.

55:18 But she stops smoking and she's uh and I'm not quite sure how to interpret this but uh she uh she winds up pulling out her e-cigarette and actually Letterman takes a hit off of it which is kind of funny. But listen to what she has to say about one of our favorite products. Oh, it's really it's disgusting well And now when you started it was just like one or two a day or did you go? Yes, that's exactly I've started to start once a week maybe with a cocktail with friends at a bar right whatever and then you buy your first pack during a really stressful breakup and and then It's downhill from there. So I've tried everything. I did the patch, I did the gum, I did the Chantix twice. It went bananas. No, no, the Chantix is a prescription drug, is that what that is? It is. And it does really help. I have to say it did really help. I just woke up one day and forgot I ever wanted to have a cigarette, which is awesome. That's why you had to try it twice. Right. So I'm not quite sure what the message is there other than she went out of her mind on Chantix, which is... Yeah, she says she went bananas. Bananas, yeah. But then she... but she did it twice.

56:22 which I found odd yeah very odd I'm not quite sure what happened there and then she brings out the e-cigarette which is kind of funny this is crazy now I do the electronic cigarette I've never heard of this never seen this don't know what that is got a bejeweled bottom hey wait a minute what was she's actually blowing out the vapor now and let him in like he's never seen this right never ever I'm freaking y'all out right now by the PC Police! Wait a minute, what was that? It's water. You still there? It was interesting. Yeah. But there's nicotine in there? There is. It's a battery. This part is a battery that screws into an outlet and then this is the filter and this has liquid nicotine in it so that it heats it up and you feel, you know, you feel like you're smoking, you get the habit of this. Right. You blow out water vapor so you're not harming anyone around you and you're not harming yourself. Will it make you dizzy when you take a hit of the nicotine? Yeah, try it. Because I have a

57:28 I haven't had a... I thought at first it was a dog whistle. I just take a regular... No, I'm not gonna take a big one. Okay, that's what she said. By the way, that was the best line and he just walked right over it. Yeah, it was a great line. So that's kind of weird. So it's Shantix. and uh... you know the and that didn't work and she tried it twice and she's promoting the e-cigarette is weird which of course is under huge scrutiny right now and uh... is uh... at the fda is in on this and who you can have that as evil you cannot smoke that and i was a military concerns me uh... did essentially the the amount of grief i have received from you for watching letterman

58:18 and deriving clips from the show. Ah, well let me just point out... I'm going to explain what happened here. But yet we get this you watching Letterman in a show I didn't even see and I believe you must have some crush on this woman and you have been stalking her. Okay. She looks like Mickey by the way. Yes, in fact Mickey is often confused for her in public. I did not probably should get a few dinner reservations using Heather and I was the name I just told us it when someone says hey cousin you say yeah I don't watch Letterman this clip was sent to me by one of our producers well okay that's what that yeah yeah yeah so there you go out of the blue they did they did this okay yeah yeah it's you know you just alright well anyway so what so so what have you concluded

59:10 Well, I think Shantick's bad, e-cigarette good. Maybe. And I'm not quite sure who's in the running to actually come up with the legal version of the e-cigarette, which makes total sense. I mean, you, and I've tried it before. It doesn't quite give you the same experience, but it's okay. But you know, I just think the companies that are making shantix, shantix bad, e-cigarettes good. And they're gonna get FDA approval and that's why the FDA is involved because you know you can't just be bringing this stuff in from China and you know how it works with the FDA you gotta you know sign you gotta sign a million dollar check we know this from previous

59:57 testimony we've had on this show at least a million dollar check for them to do the clinical trials etc etc that can only be a big company so I think shantix out e-cigarette in that is the prediction. Alright write that one down on the in the big prediction book no agenda predictions dot com whoever is running that you gotta step it up yeah you gotta step up yeah suck it make the least two predictions a show So you hear about what happened in California? Are you talking about the 15 Chinooks that flew by? No, that's not California, that's your house. That's just my pad. No, what happened in California? They've decriminalized pot. What, this is done? Done deal?

1:00:44 Schwarzenegger wrote up a document saying, hey, this is bullcrap, we're spending too much money enforcing these laws. Now it's not even a misdemeanor if you get caught. Really? Yeah. Happened about two days ago. No, do we have any documentation on this? This is what's so funny. Yeah, it's not all over the news. You'll find two or three stories. This has not been picked up by the national media. It's like been suppressed. This is really weird. And the fact that you don't know about it in LA, where the local news you think would be doing nothing but chatting about it, but no. Nuh-uh. Nothing. Shh! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Don't let anyone know. Wow. No, I didn't know that. So is this now a... If you're roaming around and there'd be a nuisance smoking dope on the street, the cops can give you a ticket.

1:01:37 No, no, but I feel up like it was a parking ticket say here and you have to pay like 25 to $100 fine, but if you actually but if you smoke a Cigarette then they tase you that's right You're smoking a cigarette gonna tase you slave. There's no good shut up. Oh yeah this is the most underreported news story of the week it's just astonishing do you have a link for me so i can put in the show just uh... well just type in schwarzenegger marijuana and you'll find it if you go to google news and it is a dark of you know there's a number of links but they're just little b stories here and there nobody paid much attention to it and i find the whole thing interesting that nobody paid any attention to it because there's a big battle going on and by the way we'll have a special report on thursday

1:02:21 on the uh... there's a book that came out that the book a club should to make note of called nullification uh... how to avoid tyranny in the twenty first century federal tyranny really so what meeting with that i might get uh... invited to that we have a special report on the special report please There it is. Right after my education, no the education one I'm still working on. I've got the link right here. Senate Committee on Public Safety, Senator Mark Leno, he must be related to Jay. An infraction is a crime, yeah. The purpose of this bill is to specify, specifically define possession of not more than one ounce

1:03:07 Which is quite a bit. Quite a bit in today's world. Of marijuana as an infraction and offense that under existing law is only punishable by a fine of up to $100 and not jail time. Wow. Well you know why we don't know about this? Because the presidential slut squad distraction team has been all over the news. And someone sent me this clip from Bones. You ever watch Bones? No, I don't watch Bones. I make a point of not watching it. There's only so much I can watch. Neither do I. But they did have a very interesting little discussion in Bones. Uh, hi. It's nice to meet you. I, um, I'm, uh, Hodgins. Um, Dr. Hodgins. I am a big,

1:03:52 I just read the piece where you stuck it to CENCOM in 2009. Thanks? Hey, maybe while you're here, you can find out why every time there's a big story, and I mean like an earthquake or government corruption, there's always some celebrity story that takes focus. You know, like the BP oil spill, Lindsay Lohan goes to jail, and the country takes their eye off the ball. Hodgins! Media is used to distract us all the time. You taking him seriously? Michael Jackson's funeral is on 24 hours a day, and nobody finds out about the coup in Honduras. How fishy to me. I love this woman. We were talking about wingless aphids. Dr. Hodgins interesting, right? Yeah, I like it That's totally what we talk about. Yes, exactly it only we do it incessantly. They do it once a year And we don't care about Honduras either We don't care about Honduras what we do care about is the fact that there is a group of people

1:04:49 This group of people is probably approaching half a million and I believe that twice a week we are actually enlightening them and brightening up their lives. Although sometimes you think you just want to get depressed by the stories that we talk about, the feedback I get and I think the reason why people want to support this show is because when you understand it then it's just not that bad. You don't have to get that angry, you don't feel frustrated because your brain is an amazing device. It's spinning around trying to figure out what is going on. I've got indeed Lindsay Lohan with a scram bracelet and then we got terrorists in Europe and homegrown terrorism and Mumbai style attacks. But when you kind of know it then

1:05:39 It makes you feel better. Did do you not have this John? I feel terrible Okay, it doesn't work for everybody but it does work for a number of you and We'd like to thank some people who supported this show for this episode and for the past week and not quite as as as much as we'd like to see in fact, it's a We're down about half from last week I think, aren't we? Yeah, it's typical when we have a good week. This is unfortunate. We haven't been able to figure out how to correct this, although perhaps the douchebag thing, which seems to have disappeared completely, may have something to do with it. But let's thank a few people who did help us this week. John Martinez out of Gilroy, California, who's also at his birthday. We'll give him a call out in a second. His kids love hearing the in the morning jingle coming from his iPhone, which is...

1:06:33 Which is apparently what Adam has programmed when he does his call some I don't even understand how it works Though the way didn't work today the bat signal the bat signals down. It's down. It's broken. Yeah. Well, this is a weird Danny Daniel Hutner in Murphys, California, old gold mining area if I'm not mistaken, Double Nickels on the Dime. Nick Shube from North Hollywood in Adams Neck of the Woods, Double Nickels on the Dime, 5510. A new listener or a new contributor actually, Amanda Hafner, probably Hafner, in Manchester, Missouri.

1:07:11 or missouri depending on what part of the state your fronted fifty five ten john and adam yesterday morning as expressing a valid concern about a police officer in my boyfriend said honey you're turning into adam curry a boy i think that means my free trial period is up here some money and so i have a suspicion his free trip free trial with his wife or is free trial is usually try she ever free trial ok Oh my God. So Amanda's free trial stopped, so she's now on board. Robert Hall, another first-time donor. Phoenix, Arizona, 51-51, which is the insane thing. Keep up the good work in the morning, guys. All-American cubicle dweller in exile in Arizona. And then finally, Michael Schultz, Palm Beach, Florida.

1:07:59 It's kind of an expensive area. $50. Hello guys, I just registered the domain name noagendajob.com and we'll start a site where your listeners can find a CIO full-time, part-time or just a project manager for IT. As Adam says, we have a few CIS admins that listen and now we can offer IT staff to fans looking for IT support. 3% of net revenue will be donated to the show. 3%? Kind of low. 3%? The website is not up yet. What is that, like TARP money? What's 3%? It's not up yet. So you can go to noagendajob at gmail. How does he figure 3%? I don't know. He's probably an agent. He's from Palm Beach. Come on.

1:08:42 These guys have all the money. He's one of those guys with the big red goose egg. He's got the big red Ferrari. We appreciate anything obviously, but 3%. No, we appreciate anything and we're making millions. That'll be great. Yeah, well, I think everybody who donated the $542 you only have We should discuss this because next Sunday we have a special 10 10 10 celebration. Yeah, it's it's it's the huge day It is the day 10 10 10. I think all the coins are out all the 10 10 10 42 no agenda Coins at no agenda. Yeah. Yeah. No, no agenda fans calm. I think those are all gone. I

1:09:22 I'm not sure about the no agenda. What is it the no agenda pins? Yeah, the pins I'm following. We want to thank everybody who took out a $33.33 boarding pass, a $33.33 boarding pass subscription, $42 donation, which is what 10-10-10 is binary, as Adam has pointed out. And we have that, I would like to, we're going to put up a special list of everybody who donated the $42 on the website for the celebration, on the celebration day. and uh... which will be on the next sunday it's a double triple lucky day only happens is not gonna happen again until thirty ten watching twenty one ten i guess supposedly will also get a level of an eleven

1:10:09 And we got 11 coming up. Don't give them any hints. I don't know if 1111 has quite the impact. No, no, no. 101010, which is binary for 42, which according to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the answer to all things in the universe. I'm paraphrasing, but that's what it is. And 42 is just one of those magical numbers. And Eric sent me a note saying, don't send your ring sizes to me, send them to him, because he's coordinating the mailing to the Knights, which is Eric A-R-I-C at Eric Mackey, A-R-I-C Mackey, M-A-C-K-E-Y dot com, all one word. How about rings at noagenda dot com? I'm just saying. Yeah, we should have something like that. We're just going to take a week or two to get half of the ring sizes, and the other people, well, you never said anything.

1:11:00 So, anyway, you can help us out by going to noagendashow.com and clicking on the donation link or dvorak.org slash NA or Curry, I'm sorry, channeldvorak.com slash NA. Yeah, and we really do need the support. It's the only thing that keeps this show going. We don't take any, we could easily, easily have been making a million dollars each if we took commercial money. Because of the demographics of the show which is demographics are pretty astonishing standing all Also want to thank all the $5 a month subscribers. It's a positive thing. And then James from noagendawall.com, a little make-do here. He says, my slaves donated $130 to No Agenda last week but John incorrectly credited the payment. He said Island 7. It was on the spreadsheet. I saw it that way too. Anyway, we can get that corrected and a shout out to noagendawall.com. I keep getting more orders. I would need to update the tally. We'll be sending another donation soon. Keep up with the great work and we appreciate that James of course.

1:12:01 And then this was an interesting note I received. Hey Adam and John, I have an amazing follow-up on my request for karma many, many weeks ago. If you recall, I asked for some crazy karma from my gorgeous girlfriend, Sarah Stead. who was unfortunately unemployed for many months this summer. As luck would have it, exactly nine weeks to the day after donating to the Karma Club, she got a job offer to be a graphic designer for a chain of luxury hotels headquartered in the area. She starred on Thursday, exactly nine weeks after you had read my note aloud on the air. Additionally, she had received three requests on that day to interview with other companies. The job offer she got that day was the one she'd been hoping for. Given I'm an avid listener of No Agenda, I had my eye out for anything related to the number three or derivatives thereof.

1:12:42 About after week six I started to lose hope that the karma was working but much to my surprise it kicked in at the last possible moment September was the last month she was able to survive on her savings before being in serious financial trouble nay a fiasco She says so there you go. You've got karma It's a beautiful thing The karma actually does apparently work. It does in many instances. We still need to document this better. We don't really understand it. But hey, I like it. Yeah, me too. We're not complaining. Let me see. We've got John Martinez.

1:13:31 Yes, so John is the one who normally tickles his kids pink with the in the morning sound coming out of the pocket no agenda iPhone app although today apparently the bad signal seems to be broken. He's celebrating his birthday. John, happy birthday and then Matt Shower says, I know it's partially my fault my birthday mentions didn't get said on the last show. I donated $55 in the morning, sorry about an hour before the show, so I understand you missed it. Then John read my name on Thursday's show but failed to read the birthday mentions that I had in the email. So please wish a happy belated birthday to Curtis.

1:14:08 Begum and Matt Rollinson, both September birthdays from your buddy Matt Schauer and from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show. Indeed bad news bad news bad news or could it be good news? Come on Snooki come on Kathy and John Cooper have been trying to solve a gruesome mystery for nearly a year it startles you every time When you see him you're like there's another one Kathy says it was just Monday when they found yet another dead cow in their pasture They believe someone is poisoning them then mutilating them. It's almost like a surgically removed

1:14:59 It's just frustration, you know, it's like somebody's robbed you. Monday's cow was the 20th the Coopers have lost. Each time this happens they call the sheriff's office, but investigators tell me they're just as confused. No one can determine who is doing this or why. They are very, like us, they scratch your head and can't make a lot of sense out of it. It's the old mutilated cows. Whenever the aliens are in town cows get mutilated John well You know one thing we kind of missed out on talking about mutilation is the ninth foot found in Vancouver I Don't have a jingle for foots. Yeah, apparently end of August we kind of missed this a About the ninth foot and there's another one. I think just found a couple weeks ago No, August is the end of August there's last human foot. So the one thing that is now

1:16:03 Speeding around the interwebs is this video which I guess we're just calling the no pressure video and oh yeah I'm pretty sure most of the people who listen to the show have seen this it doesn't really make sense To play the audio because yeah, the vorac slash blog has it yeah, and no agenda TV calm of course We'll have it, but essentially it's a it's a highly produced video three different scenarios one is this class of school One is the workplace. It's a British by the way and one is the soccer field and in all cases It's a 1010. It's a 1010 global.org is the website

1:16:44 and the idea is to reduce... everyone's on board by the way according to this everybody agrees everyone's on board we and its governments, its companies, its people we have to... and Microsoft is a business sponsor by the way yeah everyone's on board and it's a how do you see Microsoft's a sponsor? they're a sponsor I ran into the list of everybody that coughed up money and Microsoft's one of the big ones. Yeah I've been looking for that well let me get to the point And so what happens in this video is the people who don't agree with with climate change essentially because the science is in They explode and but no they don't explode. They are exploded. They are exploded. I'm sorry Yes, the teacher presses a button and then and it's gory and messy and it really just blows everything up. So The website is 1010. Is that what it is? 1010 global org

1:17:41 And it's a kind of a weird site and it looks like the whole world is into this and I'm trying to figure out. So I did a Who Is, which is kind of like the first thing I do, and it comes up as Frannie Armstrong from SpannerFilms.net. Have you ever heard of Frannie Armstrong? No. Well she's quite famous. She runs Spanner Films and you can find that at spannerfilms.net and she has essentially created a number of movies. I think it started with The Age of Stupid, McLibel, and Drowned Out, three movies, and she claims that this has been financed by individuals sending little bits and pieces of money and I just have a hard time believing it.

1:18:36 She has a Wikipedia entry, British documentary film director working for her own company Spanner Films, former drummer with the indie pop group The Band of Holy Joy. Primarily known for three films, The Age of Stupid and about climate change, McLibel about the infamous McDonald's court case and drowned out following the fight against the Narmada Dam project. So this is a complete science is in outfit. uh... idea i'd just be aware you find the microsoft thing it's in the uh... entry at wikipedia where is it i don't see it and we decide to go to wikipedia and go to uh... did ten good good colon ten this is companies include the royal mail microsoft tottenham hospital they have links they have these are citations with the footnotes tottenham house hotsports so that i'm not a real and the british medical journal

1:19:34 FTSE 100 listed insurance company. So she's out there shilling as if she's independent and that this was financed by just normal folks and people who are all for climate change and carbon emissions reduction but meanwhile she's actually on the payroll of some of the biggest corporations in the world. Well they're donors. How come we don't get donors like that? Because we're not on the climate change bandwagon. If we were, we probably would. So, just found it really interesting that this really high-grade film, which by the way they pulled down from their site with an apology. Yeah, like, oh well you live and learn, they said. And to me it's like, this is perfect. What better way to get publicity for your 1010 campaign? I think they did a great job. This is very good viral marketing. Yeah, actually they probably got more publicity than if they'd actually run it.

1:20:39 Although I think it's all negative. I think you know the kind of Comments you get when you put it on your blog. It's amazing except for the one or two guys Well, you have to make a point to get anyone to pay attention to climate change. That's right Because as you know science is in Tesla cars has recalled 400 of its battery cars How many has it shipped? 400. Oh, okay. I don't know how many they've shipped. But 400 seems like probably that's their entire... Yeah, it is. It affects 439 Roadsters sold under the 2.0 and 2.5 model names. They've actually had a previous recall, 345 Roadsters of their version 1.0. Apparently a battery... A power cable in the vehicle could short out and catch fire.

1:21:43 Okay, so uh, doesn't sound too good. No. But they've just apparently started production with government money. They got a huge amount of money. Half a billion dollars. From Obama. Yep. And since, you know, it's not Democrats or Republicans anymore. It's Obama. It's just Obama. So Obama gave him the money. From his stash. Sketchy operation seems to me. From his stash. And, you know, so rich people can buy $125,000 extremely small electric car. Yeah. Which is, and it's a girly one at that. A little bit, I agree with that. It's kind of a girly design. So there's this, well the Lotus by itself I think is just kind of a girly car. So there's a tree snake... Letterman bought one and had to send it back because he couldn't get into it. He can't fit in it now, he's way too big for that car. Six foot is about it. Yeah. It's girly. So there's a tree snake problem in Guam.

1:22:52 And we have a base there, don't we, in Guam? Don't we own that place? Yep. So the Navy has a rather novel way of getting rid of the tree snake problem. How would you get rid of tree snakes, John? I'm sure you've been an inspector for the Department of... You shoot them. Well, here's what they've done. They are bombing the island with frozen mice stuffed with acetaminophen Acetaminophen. Acetaminophen? What is that? This is some kind of poison apparently. Tylenol. What? Tylenol? Yeah. Does Tylenol kill snakes? Well in the high doses it'll kill you. Wow. Okay. Well why don't they just put poison in there? They don't want the snakes to die with a headache.

1:23:46 Here it is, the frozen mice are strapped with cardboard wings and green streamers which slow their fall and catch them on tree branches. Somehow I just really like this. I think that's really cool. And I'd like to see some video. If we have any listeners in Guam, I'd like to see the frozen mice with cardboard wings falling from the sky. I'd like to know what company got contracted to manufacture these things. Oh, wait a minute. Maybe I can find it from the Department of Defense Appropriations bill here. I might be able to find it actually. That's pretty funny.

1:24:27 I love that. I love that kind of stuff. That's very innovative. That's how we are here in America. We're very innovative. We come up with really good stuff. We come up with good stuff. So there were indeed 15 Chinooks flying over the hills yesterday. Play the emergency alert network broadcast copy. Oh, hold on a second. Got it here. This is the coordinated monthly test of the emergency alert system equipment. If this had been an actual emergency, you would have received timely emergency information. This concludes this test of the emergency alert system. What's the point? Both Eric and I have noticed... I don't know what that was. Eric and I have both noticed this is being played a lot.

1:25:41 Oh really? But doesn't that happen at the beginning of each month? Isn't like the first Tuesday of each month? Maybe it's just a coincidence. But it's so old-fashioned because I guess these beeps or something it's supposed to trigger. Yeah. I mean I don't think it actually works anymore. I wonder. I mean because the way it used to work having worked at a 10 watt FM station in Salem, West Virginia You actually have an emergency broadcast system box and it's monitoring another station Apparently a bigger station nearby and when those tones are triggered then that triggers your emergency broadcast box And then you start to broadcast the tones I mean, I mean we although it's it happens to sounds like a modem Yeah, what happens to be broken today? But I mean I can send an alert to iPhone apps. I mean, what is this bullcrap? It makes no sense

1:26:36 It just makes no sense that that is actually how the emergency broadcast... And by the way, did that go off on September 11th? Don't worry, I have the answer for you. No. It failed. Nothing went off. Anyway, Slave Greg here in the Hollywood Hills says he just shot a little YouTube which we'll put up on noagendaTV.com and the show notes noagendashow.com of these 15 Chinooks, just so you know that I'm not crazy, these 15 Chinooks flying over the Hollywood Hills and he sent me a follow-up note you know you and John always say that the real news has more to do with movie promotions and actually being useful well I ran across an article about a movie coming out in 2011 called the battle for Los Angeles no and look at the first photo Chinooks with UFOs around him

1:27:27 So this could they could actually just be filming the movie for all I know. You know they probably are. It probably is exactly that and Greg you're very you're on the ball my friend that's a that's a very very astute bit of work there you've done. You know we find the movie angle on so many stories nowadays that I'm wondering that if when somebody in hindsight a hundred years from now gets a hold of all our old shows it turns out that everything was a movie. We actually brought no insight to anything it was just all about movies. I'm telling you the plot involves an alien attack on Los Angeles and a platoon must fight to save the city.

1:28:07 According to the makers of this film, this movie is based on true events from the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles where an unidentified object appeared over the city. initiating air raid sirens and a barrage of anti-aircraft gunfire and here's a picture of a UFO flying through I'm gonna count them 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 in the picture well there could easily be five it's probably taken from one there's probably four others so I'm thinking that these guys you know what I'm thinking what I'm worried about that they're flying around my house they're doing a movie shoot yeah it's the same color Chinooks by the way that could be

1:28:46 By the way, the chat room says they've been noticing these Emergency alerts on a weekly basis really well, it's because of Mumbai style attacks. That's why John it could be Mumbai style attacks on the way on the way my friend some Haiti news we finally got a bio for Adam Thomas C Adams the This is the dude from the State Department who is now in charge of the money for Haiti. He's the money man. So they finally put up a biography page for him at the State Department with a crazy URL, so you just get that from the show notes. Haiti Special Coordinator, term of appointment September 30th, 2011 to present. So I guess it's just one year. It's funny they do that backwards.

1:29:44 He's named a special coordinator for Haiti by Secretary of State Clinton. He is returning to the department after retiring in June of 2008 from a 35-year career in the US government, much of it focused on managing foreign assistance. Spook! And what was he doing during his retirement? He was teaching at the Foreign Service Institute. You know what the Foreign Service Institute is? Yeah, it's a one that is a CIA front. It's where they teach spooks! It's literally, it's spook school. Where they teach you, you know, culture and language of all these countries. Mostly for economic hitmen, right? It's totally spook, yeah, hitmen spook school. He also served as the vice chairman of the Romanian-American Foundation.

1:30:34 a 150 million dollar grant-making organization which supports education and other initiatives aimed at promoting a strong market economy and the rule of law in Romania. Yeah. So they had to bring this guy out. There was no one else, no one else who could figure out how to get the money to Haiti except for this. And I gotta send this to you, John. You just gotta look at this. Hold on. You gotta look at this guy. Tell me that this guy, he might as well have a badge that says Spook. He just looks like one. They do all get a look at it. Totally. You know, one of the problems that they do have is that there's a milieu thing that takes place. If you're, you know, it's like if you hang around cops for a long... This happened to me. When I was an air pollution inspector, I had... I was working with this when they had also a bunch of police that were brought in to do pullover trucks and violators of smoking cars.

1:31:35 And so you'd hang out with all these cops and for after a couple of years of hanging out with cops, you'd go into a bar or something and people say, are you a cop? Because you'd pick up these nuances that you don't even know you have. And I had them for a, it was great by the way. And everyone thought you were a cop. And then after I stopped working with these guys, it took about two or three years for it to go away. I never knew what it was. But back in the day they didn't say cop, they said fed, didn't they? You know I was a cop, you look like a local police. uh... which is different i guess in the fed that would be a different mill you but you you have all these characteristics that you don't even know what they are and i and i spooks are very much the same way that that on that and they could just let me do about it as you're having meetings all the time with other spies you have to go to the office once in a while and i think that you're gonna pick up a certain look and feel and uh... mill you indicator that will people if they know what they're doing they can spot you this is a bad on how they deal with that you've got to go to the office

1:32:35 That's funny. I gotta go to the office once in a while. Did you see the picture of the guy? Does he look like a total spook or what? Yeah, he looks like a... Probably, yeah, I can't... yeah. So anyway, so just... They always have the gray... either the gray or sandy gray hair. We have, uh... I've never seen a back-haired spy. There's something on the stream today, John, which is... Epic fail. I, you know, and yeah, it could be our stream provider, but maybe we just once again, we're getting too close to the truth. I always, I'm always very suspicious of that. Why now it's like some countries is not working, whatever. But there's more Haiti news. This is great. This is from Reuters. You're gonna love this.

1:33:22 Haiti has asked an architectural planning charity founded by Britain's Prince Charles to help guide the rebuilding and makeover of the earthquake devastated historic center of Port-au-Prince. So it wasn't bad enough that we have that jabroni Clinton in there now they're bringing in his wingman Prince Charles. So I'm at the store yesterday the new you know there's the National Aquarium there's another one called the globe Yes, well this is it's the same company right headline big headline across the globe It says Prince Charles is gay. Oh News alert do to do to do to do to do really that's what Mimi said when I'd mentioned this Really you don't say Prince Charles is no really

1:34:08 But it was the fun I should have bought it except for the fact that the globe these days is a rag right? It's three dollars and sixty nine cents to buy one crap You know just for the headline wasn't worth it as a frame of all artwork, and we are we are on a budget Let's be honest. Yes, well after this week's donations. We're on it. We're on a budget so anyway so in this company's they've caught caught something called the smart code which is a way they build urban areas and It's just more, it's just more elites moving in. Bad, just bad news. I feel really, really bad. And I think we need to talk about Stuxnet, John, because I've been doing a lot of study. I got a lot of emails, but not really from any sysadmins, which makes me kind of wary. So I got an email from someone who works in the industry.

1:35:08 but cannot be identified. He has to be anonymous. He is a $5 a month supporter of the show. He says, it's been really hard listening to you and John go on about the Stuxnet virus. I work for a Siemens competitor as a network and server infrastructure and security consultant. We've been tracking Stuxnet for months now since it directly impacts our industry. There's a couple things. First of all, he says the stolen digital certificates are for signing drivers This, apparently these stolen certificates does appear to be real. They are valued at, if you had to buy them on the black market, at $250,000 per certificate. Then he goes into a whole bunch of things about

1:35:51 No one really knows what this thing is intended to do. The primary mode of transmission is via Windows vulnerability. It's in how icons are handled. Viewing the icon is enough to cause an infection. A vulnerability, quote, this good is worth $250,000 to $500,000 on the black market. So that doesn't sound like that's any type of state that is doing this. However, Symantec issued their report. The W32.stuxnet dossier, it's a PDF linked in the show notes, noagendashow.com. I have read through this entire document and found a couple of interesting things. So how do they link this to Iran? And actually the Mossad and Iran? In their report.

1:36:42 There's a value found in one of the DLLs, I'm paraphrasing here. The value is equal to 1979 0509. That's when apparently the threat will exit. Which makes no sense when you hear the next line. This is thought to be an infection marker or a do not infect marker. Okay, so if the machine somehow has this value in it, then it will not be infected. If this is said correctly, infection will not occur. The value appears to be a date of May 9th, 1979. And this is in the official report. While on May 9th, 1979 a variety of historical events occurred, according to Wikipedia, Habib Aikhanian was executed by a firing squad in Tehran, sending shockwaves through the closely knit Iranian Jewish community.

1:37:44 He was the first Jew and one of the first civilians to be executed by the new Islamic government. This prompted the mass exodus of the once 100,000 member strong Jewish community of Iran, which continues to this day. Symantec cautions readers on drawing any attribution conclusions attackers would have the natural desire to implicate another party. I mean this is crazy. What is going on with this? And this is an official Symantec report and they're like, oh this date, oh Wikipedia that, oh this has got to be about the Mossad. I don't know. You got me. Then there's, and this is the date that I think you want to write down in the book, the date that nothing will happen. Stuxnet reads a date from the configuration data.

1:38:37 If the current date is later than the date in the configuration file, then infection will also not occur and the threat will exit. The date found in the configuration file is June 24th, 2012. That is apparently when the world demises. June 24th, 2012. And I don't know man, it's like... I just have a very, very hard time believing this is real. I mean, it may be a real worm, but now The Week has the front page of their magazine cover as the worm in Iran. According to other reports from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, this worm has already attacked a satellite and has disabled a satellite, the satellite being INSAT-4B.

1:39:33 which knocked out 70% of all Indian satellite television who then had to switch to a Chinese provider. That would indicate Chinese origin of the worm that could be what it's all about. Grabbing some contracts. Well there's only two things I can think of. One, it's total bullshit and it's out there but it's just distraction or whatever or be afraid or let's get the cyber security team to lock down the internet or it's actually the demon as written by David Suarez and it's how to bring down all companies worldwide which is what I'm really hoping for now that would be great you read the demon a read demon and freedom

1:40:22 And I have a copy, I'll read it. You'll be hoping it happens. It sounds great. I'd love to be a part of the Darknet. We could send more donations, I'd hope. Well, we'd get Darknet points, credits. So does it... okay. You done with that one? Yeah. I just had to update it because it's fascinating to me. Yeah, no, I think you should keep following it because obviously we don't have the right... we do not have any inside track on this thing at all. Well, well, well, the only... Somebody must. Well, here's the question I have and this is what I can't find anywhere. Why is it called Stuxnet? Because nowhere do I find a reference that says like it's it's it logs as Stuxnet dot DLL or anything like that. Why is it where does this name come from? That's what I want to know Stuxnet. Where did the name come from? Why? What does that refer to because that's clearly the biggest clue and they'll appreciate the anonymous information from a competitor to Siemens and

1:41:23 You know, I want sysadmins. I want people who have had their hands on this thing to take a look at it. You know, I don't see them coming up with anything. So, and I trust the sysadmins. Yeah, more than anybody else. Okay, go to www, this is by the way just a, this is a stub as it were of an idea. But there's something up with this particular website and accompany a couple groups called Enviro... Have you ever heard of Environment America? No. Staffed in 29 states in Washington, D.C. Environment America? No. Yeah, EnvironmentAmerica.org. But first, before you go there, go to Go60... They're behind Go60MPG.org. Oh no. Go60MPG.org. Let's drive away from oil.

1:42:25 Act now to get an average fuel efficiency of 60 miles per gallon by 2025. What is this about? What is the point? I'm not sure, that's why I said it's a stub. But Environment America comes up in the thing and so does the Natural Resources Defense Council. The Sierra Club and the Union of Concerned Scientists will go along with anything. I think they got nothing to do with this. But there's this Environment America thing, which is another big boy, and they're huge. And I think they're behind this because their website is very similar. It looks like it was designed by the exact same person. And I'm just wondering who these guys are.

1:43:05 If anybody knows, they're at 44 Winter Street in Boston, in the federal advocacy offices. This is an expensive operation. You can't have a federal advocacy office in downtown Washington, D.C. without spending a few bucks. Oh yeah. Real estate there is a bitch, I hear. So they've really, they've stopped attacking our Our systems, it's the Stuxnet dude, I'm telling you. They've stopped attacking our Skype connections directly. They just have gone straight to the provider. I'm streaming, the stream is going out, but it's being blocked or chopped or whatever. Well, luckily most people download the... Yeah, but it's annoying. Yeah, totally. Well, it's just enough to annoy you and throw you off track.

1:44:02 Well, no, I just want to restart the server and now I can't find the restart button again. Anyway, let's do some of your clips, man. You got a couple good clips I don't want to miss out on because we often don't get to them. Well, there's nothing great here, but let's play a couple things. Here's an, I thought this was interesting, oh, but let's talk about this. Play the thoughts on Rahm Emanuel. Oh, yes, who indeed left to be to run for mayor of Chicago. I mean stylistically I think there was some dysfunction in the West Wing that had to be dealt with because of Emanuel's personality and his approach to issues but there was a lot that was accomplished. The difficulty is what was accomplished isn't necessarily popular. I think where you're going now with Rouse, with some others from the campaign coming in

1:44:45 like a David Plouffe. What's interesting is what does it all amount to, you know? And I think what you're seeing is more of a return to what was really effective about the architecture of the 2008 campaign. And perhaps in Pete Rouse, where Emanuel was not as effective, is confounding, something that Peggy talks about. How good was Obama at confounding his Republican critics? Well, as it turned out, not very good. And maybe they've got a cast now who might be a little better at that. Okay, you can stop. Given the balance of power. So they could go confounding, who cares? So I was listening to this, there's a bunch of specials about this. There's one funny line in here which I don't have which is, you know, Peggy Noonan says, you know, how important is this to the average person? Does the wife come barreling into your, into the bedroom saying, honey, honey, Rom is out.

1:45:34 Nobody cares except for the fact that these guys have become so powerful. So I did a little research on the history of the Chief of Staff, which during the Roosevelt administration and before, Roosevelt maybe it was Truman that changes a little bit, but Nixon definitely. The guy was, this person was always called the personal secretary to the president. And that's what he was. He was just, you know, he made sure that there wasn't conflicts. He wasn't like this guy who's a big ogre that bosses people around like Emanuel does or in the fact of the Nixon administration was Haldeman, who apparently was to be feared. And then somebody analyzed this properly saying somehow along the lines this chief of staff, an unelected official, has essentially become America's prime minister.

1:46:26 Really? Yeah, and if you think about it, you know, it was it's like a new thing. I mean you never had this this why is this guy so powerful? He's not an elected official. Why is he calling the congressman and threatening people and making and being you know, this this horrible character that is you know you know, while the president is isolated. When was it okay for the president to be isolated from the public and this chief of staff character to run everything? He's essentially running everything. Yeah, and did you see the guy that they've brought in? Yeah, Rouse, a professional. The guy, what did the president say? Rouse will fix it, whatever. No, what's his, Jim, what's his name? I don't know what his first name is. Look.

1:47:17 Something like that. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, he was the chief of staff for John for for Daschle when he was a What what bothered me about that whole handover which I saw live? I mean, how could you miss it is? first of all a manual standing there with this whole Napoleonic complex Yeah, Pete Rouse. Yeah Pete right he's standing there, you know with his with his hands on his hips, you know, I And then it's just this whole congratulatory thing which really just brought bile up in my throat. You know, Rom was instrumental in bringing us back from the brink. You know, we didn't have the depression thanks to Rom. We didn't have this thanks to Rom. Thanks to Rom. Is Rom the guy running the thing now? I mean, this is the problem we were running into is the government is completely out of control. And now we have these non-elected officials. Clinton tried this a little bit with Hillary and giving her all his powers to do the, you know, health care stuff, which he screwed up, we should mention.

1:48:18 uh... but the these cheat the staff guys he's jesus that seem to be running the country obama's just out given speeches floating around the the world you know that he what does he do didn't elect rama manual to be to run the country why is he running the country or was and dude you're asking me anyway i'm just pointing this out i think we have to keep an eye on this because this is a bad trend now it's horrible and i think this really started with the the t.v. show the west wing Don't you think? Excellent. That's exactly where it started, at least in the modern iteration. It actually took place, I mean, the actual change took place, I think, with the Nixon administration with Haldeman. And I think it's been, and then somebody said, well, this is great. We can just have these guys run the place. Jim Baker ran the White House during Reagan, did very well. And they, and in fact, the show that I had the clip from, they were going on and on about how the different chiefs of staff did various, you know, quality work.

1:49:18 with Jim Baker being the best ever supposedly and now we have these other these new guys and they seem to be running everything I mean why Why do we why don't we just vote for them? Why are we voting for the president so he can pick some guy to run things? I mean this is kind of like You know Russia. Well you have these unelected people Are you chosen by the elected person and they end up running everything? It's like a city It's a little bit like the city manager model in a lot of towns you elect a mayor They hire a city manager, and they run they run the whole show what the hell we'd like the mayor for I don't know

1:50:02 There you go. I don't know how that works. I got you buffaloed. You totally do. You got me totally buffaloed. I don't know how that works. Anyway, I'm keeping an eye on this. I think it's a bad trend. I think it's a bad trend in the history of the country. Okay, add the clips. Yes. Yeah, just as a little aside, kind of a lightweight clip, I've got the, this is just Bernie Sanders who is a character, you know, he's always, he's a troublemaker. An independent from Vermont. And I think this is an interesting little ditty he had in a testimony. He likes to, instead of asking questions of the people testifying, he makes these comments. And this is him talking about, a very interesting comment on the income gap.

1:50:54 for some reason that misfired, sorry. So a $2,000 a year decline in medium family income. The issue I want to talk about, which I hear very little discussion about and I want your views on, is the fact that the United States today has the most unequal distribution of income and wealth of any major country on earth. Sometimes we talk about the economy like we're all in this together, we clearly are not. Now I want your judgment and tell me what you think. In 2007, the wealthiest 1% earned 23.5% of all income in America. In the 1970s, that number was 8%. Top 1% in the 70s earned 8%. Top 1% now is earning almost 24% of all income. Do you think that that is okay?

1:51:45 Do you think that that is an issue that the president should focus on? Do you think it's morally okay? Do you think it's economically okay? You know, I think that the distribution of income is a challenge and a problem and it's something that we need to focus on. I think as a matter of federal policy, it's really one of the things that drives the debate on whether or not to extend the tax cuts for people earning over $250,000 a year. That would be the wrong thing to do at a time when we have the disparity. this tax cut thing is really dragging me down. I'm so happy. Yeah, but they won't make their minds up. They won't even vote on it before the elections. It's ridiculous. I mean, they either do it or don't do it. I mean, they can't figure out whether it's a good thing, a bad thing, whether they should soak the rich or let it slide. But it's not really soaking the rich. I mean, it's not even, it won't even make that big a difference from what I understand. It's just a

1:52:48 Like a distraction just to talk about something. It's a huge distraction. Just to talk about something else, you know. It just makes no sense to me. And what are we actually talking about? You know, when I was a young boy. Yeah, kid. When I was a kid, you know, people would talk about America and they say, you know, the one thing I really like about America... What's that? The one thing I like about America... This is always people who had visited America. If you're driving a Rolls Royce in America, People look at you and congratulate you and say good job good on you Really proud that you made it and you made yourself rich and that's great And that was that's always what people who have from who live in children from foreign lands who live in the United visited the United States Will always say that they were always envious of that and here we are You know the it's it's not even about the money. It's about fuck the rich and

1:53:50 That's the way I perceive it. I ran a story on the blog about the really very interesting car, the Bugatti Veyron. Oh yeah. Which is a V, not a V, it's a W-shaped engine with 16 cylinders and it was like 2 million bucks new or whatever. And it was interesting to look at the comments. It was like, if I saw one of those I'd T-bone it. Yeah. You know, instead of saying, wow, that's a pretty car. It's interesting that guy can afford it. But no, I'll T-bone it. Now we're about two steps away from becoming Mexico and kidnapping people who drive a Rolls Royce or a Mercedes even. In fact, in Mexico City, you're always told, no, nobody drives, you drive an old beat up Volkswagen, the more money you're worth, the junkier their car you drive. Because you can't take a chance, you're gonna get kidnapped. Yeah, it's really disconcerting.

1:54:48 It's uh... and I don't know what to do about it. But what I... luckily I don't really hear this. Of course I live in Los Angeles so it doesn't count. This is not really America. But I'm not really hearing this meme propagating on the street. I don't hear people going around like, yeah man, we gotta have the rich people pay for it. We gotta... these Bush tax cuts man, that's an outrage. I don't hear anyone talking about that. Do you? No, but you do hear a lot about it on TV from Democrats who are trying to... And what exactly are these... How can we take advantage of these great tax cuts? I guess first we have to make $250,000 a year. That would be step one. Yeah. And then what are these tax... Do we even know what the tax cuts are about? Do we even know what the package is? They're essentially just a lot of extra deductions for being married, for having kids and things like that.

1:55:46 It's not really, I mean it's pretty straightforward if they end these tax cuts it's going to sink the economy, let's put it that way, and everybody knows it. Really? Yeah. Why is that? Well, Mimi you have the rundown on this. Oh don't bring Mimi in. No I'm just asking her to tell me because she gave me the lecture last night. But there's a lot of bad things that will take place. It will just basically everyone's going to pay a lot more money everywhere. Right. And it's going to sink the economy because you're going to have to scrimp. until you get used to the new numbers. I thought it was like such a little amount of money that it really didn't matter. Not for people I'm making under, it's like you know a thousand here a thousand there but it probably amounts to about five to ten thousand dollars for people you know in the... Really? Yeah. You won't like it let's put it that way. Wait a minute. So if if the, I don't understand it. If the Bush tax cuts are retired then you're telling me that it's going to cost me

1:56:45 who makes less than $250,000 a year, it's going to cost me $5,000. If you make $100,000, yeah, absolutely, it'll cost you at least $5,000. Why? I don't understand. I thought it was only tax cuts for the rich. I'm not rich. I don't hit the $250,000 mark. Most people, it's tax cuts for everybody. That's the problem. It's not just for the rich. The tax rates increase for everyone. But, John, you mean they're lying to me? No, what they're saying, they call it tax cuts for the rich to get political votes, but it's just tax cuts for everybody. No, no, they're very clear about it. It's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans who make over $250,000 a year. They're very clear about this. No, if they pull the plug on this, they're not voting in a new tax cut for the people making under $250,000. They're pulling the plug on the whole thing.

1:57:37 Yeah, but I don't understand. I keep getting told that this is only for people who make over $250,000 a year. You're telling me this is not true? The Bush tax cuts were for everybody. No, they were for the rich! They call it tax cuts for the rich because the rich get a tax cut too. Wow! But wait a minute, then where does the over $250,000 come from? I'm confused. Where does that come from? That has to come from somewhere. Yeah, it comes from the Democrats saying they want to pull the plug on the tax cuts for the rich. In other words, you have the tax cuts for everybody. So let's make an arbitrary line at $250,000 and screw them. Their tax cuts are over, but everybody else gets to keep theirs. Well, they haven't voted for that.

1:58:29 They just keep talking about it. And now that the Republicans, who don't have control of anything, but apparently the Republicans said, no, we don't want to do that. We want to keep the tax cuts intact the way they are. And the Democrats says, oh, the Republicans are screwing us. They won't agree to anything unless we make it to tax cuts for everybody, for the rich, tax cuts for the rich. And so it's all bullcrap because most of these Democrats have more money than the Republicans. They want to reinstate the tax cuts for the rich more than the Republicans do. The Republicans are just showboating. They have no power. They haven't got the votes. What difference does it make what they think? Wait a minute, let me listen, let's go back to the white board. Maybe I'd have to listen to this. Now I'm very very confused because I thought that Obama had little blue dots for everybody which is good and the GOP as it says here on the white board has the big red goose egg which is bad.

1:59:22 You may have been following, we've got a big back and forth going about the tax cuts. What I wanted to do today is just break it down real simple so you can understand exactly what the debate is about. Now, okay, so John, this is supposed to be simple for us. Can you please work with me on this? Okay? Help me. As Mimi listening too, she might be able to help. Here we go. President George Bush passed tax cuts that will expire at the end of the year. this year. Okay, he passed tax cuts that will expire at the end of this year. Were these tax cuts for everybody or just for rich people? No, no, these tax cuts were for everybody. Okay, that's interesting because he does indeed

2:00:00 Mr. Gulag here doesn't say just for the rich, he just says tax cuts. Okay. And what I've done here is we got a ruler and measured out the size of the tax cut is how big the circle is by your income which is listed at the top from... Okay, so it's just it's 10% essentially because he's gonna say later on people with a million dollars would have saved $100,000 and people with $100,000 would save $1,000. That's kind of what he's saying, right? Or ten thousand. Ten percent sounds like, he doesn't say ten thousand. When it comes up to people who make more than a million dollars a year. Obama would preserve a couple thousand dollars a year tax cuts for virtually all Americans and... Okay, so he wants to preserve tax cuts under two hundred fifty thousand dollars. Is that what's being said? Yeah.

2:00:55 Ah, okay. Even for people who make a lot, they get to keep the tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. Ah, okay. Now I understand. Oh boy, wow, that's really interesting. Thank you for helping me through this. So these tax cuts were not the Bush tax cuts for the rich. They want to put legislation in place that actually turns those into tax cuts for the rich. uh... no no no they want to say up to two hundred and fifty though it's retroactive so they'll say these tax cuts don't expire if you make under that's the the legislation they are proposing but they haven't voted on i've even seen the legislation

2:01:38 So we'll keep them in place up to $250,000 and everyone over $250,000 those go away. Is that what's happening? Okay. So but they're twisting it around and saying Bush had tax cuts for the rich but that would only be true if It's not true. It's basically the problem. No, it was taxed for everybody but the Democrats like to promote the tax cuts for the rich saying why these guys get a big break. We all get a break with these tax cuts. Everyone gets a break. So if they retire them and they don't vote on the 250,000 or below level then we all get screwed.

2:02:20 Right. In fact, the lowest tax bracket becomes 15 percent. All other brackets rise by 3 percent and the top bracket goes from 35 to 39.6 percent. So, the top bracket shows up probably at, you know, 50 grand or so. Let me just listen to the last 30 seconds of this and then I'll know if I completely understand it. Under the Republican plan, however, people making more than a million dollars a year, they're going to be getting a tax cut of more than $100,000. Right, but that means that people making $100,000 are also getting a tax cut. Yeah, under the Republican plan, under the goose egg plan.

2:03:17 You will find that everyone agrees that these giant tax cuts for very high income people are the least effective thing that we can do to get the economy growing. Okay, okay. I get it. Now I finally understand. So there's a bunch of other things Mimi wrote down a note here I would read. Tax rates on dividends goes up, child tax credit cut in half, personal exemption is phased out, marriage penalty increases, all these things. So these are all if the tax cuts expire

2:03:56 then all of these taxes come back on everybody. But again, what the Democrats are saying is, I'm sorry, Obama, not the Democrats, Obama, is they want to put legislation in that would make it only for people who make over $250,000. Is there a bill anywhere? Has there something been drawn up? Is there something I can read? Yeah, I think there's a couple of bills out there, but here's the deal. They're not going to vote on this till after the elections and I think what the showdown is is the following. The Republicans want this to be the way it was before and they're going to just not vote at all. And the Democrats are going to have to either do it themselves, which they can,

2:04:36 which they can before the elections, they might not be able to after the elections, but the Democrats could just vote this crazy idea in right now, just soak the rich and let the rest of us keep the tax benefits we had. but they won't do it. They're afraid to do it because whatever happens, if tax rates go up, they figure that they're going to get, you know, blasted by the, uh, but in the 2012 elections and if they, and if, and they won't be able to blame the Republicans, but after the elections they might be able to. I mean, the whole thing is political. They don't care about our tax rates at all. Wow, so I'm actually blown away by this. So essentially what's happening here is the Ministry of Truth is propagating the message that Bush had tax cuts for rich people.

2:05:25 And the worst part about it by the way, the 250 limit, which is the reason the Republicans are probably against the idea generally, even though I think they'd rather just stall it so people get totally screwed and Obama gets voted out. But 250 really includes small businesses, a lot of small, you know... middle-income people who have like dry cleaners and small businesses that they said everything's rolled into their income tax and so the 250 they're gonna get nailed it's gonna put a lot of small businesses which by the way is the big trend in this country is to screw the small business guy and make big corporations the you know the most important thing and it the whole thing stinks it's in

2:06:10 Everybody agrees. Well, would you please thank Mimi for certainly setting me straight on that? That's really interesting. Now I'm going to start reading some of these proposals. Because this is something that if you can explain it properly, and maybe you need a whiteboard with some big goose eggs. then you can really blow people away because this is a huge lie. It's just a big lie. I don't even think the jabronis on television understand it themselves. They all believe that there are Bush tax cuts for the rich. Well, the meme is in. Once the meme got established as tax cuts for the rich, they were stuck with it because the news readers, the Rick

2:06:51 Sanchez's of the world we're using the term so is everybody you know do Rachel Maddow says it constantly and so does Olbermann and what are you supposed to do? We need to well what we're supposed to do is you and I will come up with a way to help people explain this in three sentences or less for Thursday's show so they can go out and hit people in the mouth about this because this is an outrage. I mean, it's one thing about being lied to about 9-11, but this tax cuts for the rich thing, that really has me pissed off. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, I'm Adam Curry in the morning. And from Gitmo Pacific Northwest where it's, oh my God, it's overcast. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.