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00:00 Just in time for summer! Don't you want to feel really good about your complexion? All you have to do is listen to the No Agenda Show. We'll even throw in a free Pride coin just for $33.33 It's going on right now, all summer long Right here at noagendashow.com Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Saturday July 31st 2010 Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 222 This Is NO AGENDA I am your humble agent known as the former Soviet spy. I come to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In The Morning! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's Saturday and nothing happens until I say hit it. I'm John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkills! And it's so true we wait for you to tell me to hit it and then boy do I

00:58 I should change these to slam it. No, no in the morning John? In the morning to you and to all the listeners and all the ships at sea and HR people. Well do i get to say anything now just stealing all my- You already took my ships at sea and now you're taking my human resources! Get the human resources thing I have to be honest about it where does that come from? It's human resources We are all we are is just sources of energy for your I see what you're doing. You're sitting you're referring to the listeners I thought you were talking to some specific human resource No, I always say if you ever listen to me which we know you don't I always say who does and our human resources at no agenda chat comm who are standing by

01:42 And are all charged up and ready for our government because they like us that way. Get it? Oh, now I get it! Yeah... I'd like to start off today John with something funny happened yesterday. I did the Computer America show Oh yes, right. You were on apparently the whole show? For two hours! Did you listen to any of it by any chance? Yeah yeah oh definitely definitely definitely Well you missed... Of course you didn't well you missed some real fun stuff I decided to stream it live my end mm-hmm on no agenda stream which is great because of course I send out the bat signal on the push notification Streamed live out your end okay Right and so everyone was in the chat room and so this was probably the best

02:32 promotion I ever could have done to show people why we are listener supported. The guy was a really nice guy, sweet guy i'm sure He is a nice guy Well this is the co-host because I guess the regular guy was on vacation They're both pretty cool But he was by himself and there's only 30 minutes in each hour of talk time anyway and he'd come back from a break And he'd start talking and talking and talking, I'm not kidding. Like five minutes he be talking... ...and then finally he's like oh yeah i gotta ask Adam a question. Then I started my answers and like what time for break? It's like every single time it was like Oh My God this is unbelievable!

03:16 And maybe he just doesn't have a lot of experience with, you know, a guest host or whatever when he's by himself. So it was just a little weird and I started at some point... He was in a four minute soliloquy and I just went You know I swear to God. I was just like off shooting bullets at him you know, I did He's like oh, I just got shot. I said yes you did you know? I'm still here But anyway our producers in the chat room they were having none of this They would just they they're like oh my god these commercial breaks etc and then the phone lines opened up

03:54 I'd like to share a short bit of one phone call. You can only imagine that it was our producers calling in. On the line we've got another caller and hopefully he's still there, John is listening to us in Milwaukee Wisconsin but John do we have you on the line? Yes I'm here. Thanks for making my call. Well thanks for holding I wanted to touch on a subject you had mentioned earlier in the show about someone starting a project and not finishing it. Here's my situation, I woke up in the morning and I had this idea to make these rings And I had a designer make these rings they're like medieval rings They have an emblem on them and I had producers lined up invested in this and members of around table

04:49 It seems like I was always just working on them. Um, some advice from Adam on what exactly I needed to do to get these things done. What was funny was the carry didn't get it and at certain point. He's like well You know maybe you can sell these in a Renaissance fair And then he started I swear to God who started talking about swords and stuff, and I'm like yeah, I'm doing this No don't think so but it was one point actually asked an interesting question Yeah, and it was about the DMCA

05:32 You know, the ruling that you can jailbreak phones and stuff. And I start answering... ...and then he starts disagreeing with someone like oh this is gonna be good! And then it's a commercial break and then it was like- He never brought up again! At the end of show he was like well.. ..I'd love to talk with you one day about- It was all about- He was trying- He's no agenda fan. He may be listening out. I hope he is because it would be good for him to learn a few things. He you know, I think he really wanted he was almost like doing a no agenda type show But he was doing it by himself Yeah well You know he's also but did you see your tight up your hamstrung by the by the commercial format? That's the real problem. Yeah is true and in fact this is the case with public radio It's okay where do you have a clock

06:15 I mean even though public radio is supposed to be supposedly non-commercial, it's very commercial. I did slip all of that in! I was able to talk about all that stuff. That was great. The clock is usually a hard clock because most these shows are syndicated and so you have a moment at the 20 minute mark where you just have to stop yeah because it goes to the local station for them to do a spot or say something or introduce themselves are whatever promo their own material you have a lot is no leeway so if your right in the middle of something where they guys really gonna say something important and I mean you'd really have to be can't do it you just can continue conversations you can get on a roll you got you gotta stop right then and there and it was it was and we were actually talking about this very topic and we were interrupted by an ad yet of course the guy has defend his model

07:01 Anyway, there's a I'll find a link to it. But someone recorded the entire stream So you actually hear what's happening during the commercial breaks while Carrie and I are talking off-air and so it was just it was It was hilarious. And what was going on in the chat room, it was just there was a whole secondary show happening that happened outside of the entire Computer America Show. But I appreciate the airtime, of course because somewhere someone heard it and is probably tuning in because of it. Yeah so wondering what's the fuss about? What was that Curry talking about? That's where the whole world's headed if we're not careful that's the problem and that's why were doing this show the way we do it

07:43 I mean, that and ten other reasons. It's not the only reason we have a slew of reasons all rationalizations in some way but we've just made the decision. We do have some producers to announce this week, you know we go from uh... nobody one person producing last show and now we got a 1 2 3 4 5 6 six executive producers? No we got one two three four execs actually have it a for we're gonna put in a bunch of them four executive producers into associates. And three knighthood's eh? Three knighthood yeah it's funny because uh... the DUI-help fellow um

08:22 Joshua Dale he You know I guess he got he was on the night who programmed $50 a month And I guess at some point. He got tired of waiting boy you start itching after a while, you know people are getting their knighthoods and you're sitting there and your you know so he decided just to cough up three hundred fifty dollars just to get there Yeah, okay So first of all we have our, let me find the right email. This is Paul Couture right? Paul Couture who's doing the coin challenge and donating the majority of the profits to The No Agenda Show Yeah this is noagendafans.com where you can order your coins These things are absolutely off-the-hook John Everyone is loving them And the price is right It's like $33.33

09:17 Of course if you want an attractive display case there's some added stuff, but it is such a beautiful project that Paul has put together and boy do we encourage this kind of stuff. Yeah no it's just a stroke of genius so he in fact thinks he's going to be able to bring in 12 knights which he could probably do is but this week the credit for the donation goes to and I don't know whether Paul wants us to put him as the executive producer. No, i think he's the executive producer but the night James Adamson will be the night okay right we'll ask paul couture with six hundred sixty seven dollars and forty four cents

09:56 DUIhelp.com which is actually attorney Joshua M Dale but we're putting DUI help dot com because he wants that he wants it yeah yeah it's a plug so they produced the show executive produce 350 Matthew Payton no stranger with no well maybe you'd said and send him email but I don't remember at Del Tono Florida well dig around and look into what were doing this show 333 66 So I don't know what that would be. Oh, maybe... No? That wouldn't make sense. Well it'd actually add two more 3s so it would actually be 3333 dot 333... Never mind. Jeff, I'm not... It's like a computer manual. It's like Apple's new operating system .4, .3, .7 Jeffrey Yang in

10:50 uh... new york but that's the or new york new york new york three thirty three thirty-three john and love to show proud to be an executive producer of exit episode two two two i need karma lots a cover for my job health in family and is looking really how much comedy needed uh... will get on those situation well i know buddies from should be focusing his karma greg lennox hornsby heights new south wales $200, we're finally getting some people out of the country again. Yes We have to do more news I always do and i have four stories today I'm always looking at some karma for my girlfriend's had a rough few months she doesn't listen to the show

11:32 Well, there you go. That's why she had a rough few months listening to it loudly in the next room So she needs some karma. She needs dude Show it's a family show take her out for dinner Yeah, give her dinner and the tuner but dinner and some loving yeah But thank you fire wind would Pennsylvania is also an executive Who? Craig Meyer? Yeah. No, no these are associate executives. Oh hold on a second sir... And Craig it's the random number theory at work we have two Craigs in a row both giving $200 to Craigs $200 and the second Craig and Craig Myers in Wynwood Pennsylvania keep up the good work he says thanks for the show so that's it Wow this is great

12:24 It's a good group, yeah. Yeah this is very promising. Yes it's just what you need before you go off on your vacation Well I also on Daily Source Code yesterday told everyone about my acrobatic move What? The soft exit from the Mevio company Oh Then we want to bore people stiff. No, no well no it means that I'm still involved with the company I'm still a shareholder only I don't get paid That's essentially what it means so Yeah, but you get paid in stock. Oh yeah? Oh, I'm sorry yeah now That's called founder stock that was mine to start with I gave out the rest of the other dudes I think paid and anything my company

13:09 But I think my salary is better used for people who will actually do some work over there. So, I can do some work here on this show which i'm happy about but of course now and gonna need some actual support and there you go! You close a door another one opens look what happens that's how karma works right? That's what they say on TV shows. So thank you all for your executive producerships, Paul Couture, DUIhelp.com Matthew Payton Jeffrey Yang and of course our associate executive producers Craig Lennox and Craig Meyer will be thanking other people during our Thank You segment a little bit later on meanwhile we need everyone to go out there and propagate the formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Order

14:05 And I do want to mention that those are official credits you can use them as an official Hollywood credit and I would like to give you some credit John for Making the new page at Dvorak org slash na looks really nice. Yeah, yeah Welcome to 2010 Drop my old HTML editor and moved a Dreamweaver Boy, I don't know like five years you know it's like yeah, this is All you need just a couple of code words up there Tables are okay tables right blink tag. It's good. It's really never used to blink tag Oh, it's still funny idea Yeah, I think it still works doesn't I think I don't know I think it still works within the with the yeah, I think I may put

14:57 put one on for a short time to see what it does. But I was really upset when they decided to take it out, like hey you know just because its irritating and everyone in the world is using it... who died and went into heaven and made you guys boss of removing the blink tag? That's terrible that blink tag! Yeah blink tag is ruining the internet It's ruining it. I remember that. GIF animated gif icon of the cat running back and forth across the screen Do you remember when images used to come in as interlaced? And they'd load like a top-to-bottom black and white first, and it would take you like five minutes Like oh yes The image is still you can still save a lot of files as interlaced and it'll still go to Forty-four She does so quickly now. You don't see it. You don't see it Yeah well that was cool back in the day Oh cool It was I think and the mailbox opening and closing ooh That was a good one

15:51 I've been wanting to put one of these what I call is an insane site You know people who are nuts on the internet me people that are criminally insane or at least in saying not necessarily criminally They always have the same they did when they put web pages up about some some flying saucers alien something, you know Energy website you do it's it's usually everything all the text is centered. Yeah Yeah, and it's in the biggest font that they can find is in colors colors colors colors as usually a red on black And you're like this is a link. No just the color and it goes down to China It just goes on forever You know this and then all along the way there's all these animated gifs. It's like the guys typing away So it was one page as one page he goes finding animated GF Here's another one for you from the archives Red Ball dot give oh

16:48 That was a huge one. I think maybe MTV.com was one of the first websites to use the redball dot gif, which is like a little bullet point remember that? Oh yeah the bullet point you read if you google red ball gift You'll see it right there and it still exists so as someone sent me a Google thing yesterday It's just hilarious If you um if you spell Illuminati backwards and you type that into your browser so that's uh... i ten in muli it a n i am u l l i and of course the dot com is added automatically by firefox it goes to the NSA website which I thought was kind of cool. It has been google washed no,no,no someone registered uh... that domain name as just forwarding it to the NSA some guy in Utah or something now what here it is yeah utah

17:46 John pontiff EA good. Good job, John that's funny in Provo Oh, that's where they keep some of the NSA stuff. Well maybe he is with a company who knows? It could be one of those jokes like, hey watch this. I'll bet you Dvorak and Curry will be talking about that eventually. Yeah they'll buy it! Hey some nefarious law passed which is really honking me off March 31st The Pact Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Have you heard of this? No, I didn't. This is news to me Yeah the PACT law prevent all cigarette trafficking was signed into law by Congress effective June 29th 2010 cigarettes including roll your own tobacco which i am a user of smokeless tobacco and non malleable matter

18:42 They are now non-malleable matter and cannot be shipped using the US Postal Service or by common carriers such as UPS and FedEx. Now this is a big problem because I smoke old Holborn blue, and people mail it to me! Not anymore... Well they have been mailing it to me! You don't have the tobacco sniffing dogs at the airport! But now it's like trafficking. It's now a drug? Yeah, yeah You've been snookered my friend Wait there are some exceptions Once you get a grandfather... have him grandfather you Grandfather me! Hey! Grandfather me into the pact I need my old Holborn This is a real problem because you can't get this stuff in America And now when people can't mail it to me they're gonna have to come up with creative ways

19:35 I bet you, well I know it got a shipment after was illegal so they don't have the dogs in yet. What do you mean? You got a shipment yesterday? No this was June 29th is when it went into effect. So I definitely received the package after that date but... Yeah, yeah thats one of those things are not going to be able enforced what your problem is is unenforceable you just have you know its like I could name a few other things and go on that just don't get enforced Yeah, name one. No You could but you don't feel like it right now? No no I just don't want to name However the White House meanwhile Has asked Congress to give clear authority To the FBI to obtain records related to the context of emails and other internet-based communications without first obtaining a warrant from a judge

20:29 This is a... Oh really? Yes, this is according to the New York Times the newspaper of the Ministry of Truth. So that's interesting Was just watching this for this show instead of watching my normal, you know C series of shows I've got went left-wing so I decided to watch you know thom and democracy now By the way, I'm watching Tom Hartman. You're watching where you listen to him? I'll watch him as a TV show Well, it's basically a recording of his radio webcam, but he plays it as a TV show. It's very poorly done and It's a cheap production let's put it that way so my daughter's here And she's like watching the show with me because I'm so here's a good clip and I go back and forth in and She's out of the blue says I was led to believe That I wouldn't when I was younger that I wouldn't have to watch this crap on

21:25 What? She's made the claim that this kind of propaganda is not, she shouldn't be even exposed to it because there was some promise made to her in some dimension somewhere. She would never have to be subjected to this horrible TV show. Well wait a minute who made the promise you I don't know she just comes out of the blue with these things. I guess she doesn't like The Thom Hartmann Show No well of course not! She's very intelligent young lady but but you did not query her on where what dimension this came from? She didn't say, she just wouldn't tell me. She said it was objectionable and she was led to believe as a kid that she wouldn't be subjected to it And she gave you look and turned around went back to Facebook No, she watched it longer because I was groaning about things Alright so what did Thumb have to say in regards to There were couple of interesting things that showed up on these shows In regards the FBI now being able

22:22 get our email without a warrant which seems kind of like unconstitutional well here's what gets me is the uh... to make it to the right page here um... usually gets me both the farmhartman show andy actually i think you just say palm it's got a piss him off he did like he listens now we never know It's like all they are is preoccupied with this Arizona law. Here's what Jay said, it's you dad alright I learned by watching you! Yeah no...

23:01 It's like they're so preoccupied with this Arizona law and I have to play a clip of a whole slew of protesters. Yeah, they protested the Arizona immigration law in New York! That is great isn't it? And they are covering it as big news and then they play all these dim wits... This is from Democracy Now!, I've got a clip here They play all these dimwits who have some of the dumb, either they've got a vested interest or they're stupid. One of the two and it just goes on and on and as I watched this I got really angry at my course I thought i was intrigued by this is that here's that this thing like there's no war this warrantless searching habeas corpus to wars one in Afghanistan and one air Iraq nobody cares about that people are actually dying

23:49 but people in New York City care about Arizona's laws which are state laws for their own people within the state. It boggles my mind, it boggles the mind. Why aren't you wasting your energy on this? Because they're panty wastes. Play that clip! I'm Leticia Lannis from the organization La Union in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. I think it's important that everybody raise their voices against SB 1070 and all other bills that try to criminalize immigrants. Immigrants are our friends, or co-workers or neighbors and they contribute to this country so we should stand up now and really recognize their contributions. Hi my name is Kevin Davis I'm actually a youth organizer for the Yaya

24:40 network which is youth activists, youth allies. There's your clue right there a youth organizer yeah Obama Yeah these are people brought in to do this I guess oh yeah most of them yeah Honestly, we're all one country and we're all united. So the fact that one state is hurting, all of us are hurting. The fact that one race is hurting, all of us are hurtin'. Well I'm Clementina from Vamos Unidos We are here to support our brothers and sisters from Arizona SB 1070 affects us everywhere! We started to see street vendors right here in New York when as soon The law was implied over there in Arizona. A week later they were asking us for our immigration status to renew our vendor's license or take our vendor's license So my name is Monami Mollick and I am the executive director of DRUMM. DRUMM stands for Desi Rising Up and Moving Whatever happens in Arizona, those same

25:31 anti-immigrant policies find their way up all throughout the United States. For the last 10 years Arizona has been a testing ground for... Anti immigrant policies? It's anti illegal immigrant policy! No, that word illegal is never used amongst anybody in this country. I don't understand John and you've got another minute and a half i'm sure it's all more of the same crap. There are some goodies in here Well, then I do what you don't understand. What why is this such a big deal? It seems so I mean I Understand people you oh This is the you know now we're asking for our advice beta and asking if we all pay buzz and all of this But yeah at the end of the day illegal eat illegal immigration Why are people moving this over towards just immigration? What is the agenda here there is an agenda? I just only understand it Yeah Do you

26:23 Well, I mean...I don't know what it is at the base but i can tell you that there's a It's just a progressive thing about, you know... I don't know what it does. Just say that! I mean, whatever i actually think I know is really part of another narrative that has been developed by the right-wing talk show guys and I'm not sure they're really catching what's going on either so I'm not gonna... You know? I dunno. I think the government wants more cheap slaves. Let them in. Well there's that element and that's why Republicans are all for it Cheap slavery. It's beautiful, it's a beautiful thing and you're not actually shackled or anything but you're cheap... Actually they are shackled by the fear that you're gonna get found out! Yeah That's definite form of slavery No it is just a former slavery and its encouraged by the progressives If you want to take it to that level, it definitely is a form of slavery Maybe they need to do a fractal in order to stop legalization of marijuana They have to say that Mexicans are all crazy again from smoking

27:26 That's what they did originally, right? It was the crazy... The wacky Mexicans. They're smoking that wacky weed! They're going nuts! Well should we play some more of this because there are some more gems here? There is a couple of one-liners in there I want to comment on. Okay. Harshest anti immigrant policies and so for example For example, the governor of New York State signed secure communities already in New York which has not yet gone into effect but will. And when it does it'll funnel thousands more into deportation Just across the river the governor assigned a 287G program authorizing police officers to arrest people based on immigration status

28:04 So we feel that Arizona, maybe that law is not happening here but there are many other harsh anti-immigrant deportation provisions that our communities are feeling right her in New York City. My name is Sarah and I'm part of the Boycott Arizona NYC Committee We had a press conference for support of resolutions Oh my god how many groups are here? This is, this is a... How many groups are there? There's thousands of them. We've got burn, we've got drum, we've got blue-blue blah blah. Here's the one that really... Yeah I know and they're all the same kind of group They're all pretty much organized by The World Workers Party World Slave Party so um so this with this this boycott arizona thing she goes on our some bogus crap that she's thinks it is going to get through the gonna boat boycott arizona i mean this is all of his would like l a said they're gonna boycott arizon and they got that note about you would you like to see what do you really do like that water were sending you don't yet yeah i think it's still find a haven't heard anything sense than if you know there was not well he usually gets me but says by the way this isn't this is an illegal disability violation interstate commerce

29:07 You can't do these kinds of things, a state to state... A state can't declare war on another state. Yes we can! We could do whatever we want. We're in California man and with the People's Republic we can do whatever we want But here, this is the mistake. So what does it cost a Mexican to illegally enter the United States? A couple grand right you get some guy and he's got a van and he leads you through the desert and through the hole in the fence or whatever... It's like a tourist tourism thing. Look Mickey is here legally in the United States she has a social security number And here's how works. It costs $325 which you pay to the Department of Homeland Security however

29:47 If you add an additional $1,000 you get the expedited service. I kid you not it's 1,300... 325? Something like that? We learned that from the Chinese. 1325 and then in like a day! In like a day he was like okay approved so they're just spending the money on the wrong people all you have to do is just give them give a check the Department of Homeland Security That's you're just doing it the wrong way. I don't understand the problem You don't have to sneak in we welcome you as long as you pay! I'm baffled by the whole thing, i mean its a

30:25 I'm baffled by the protests, I'm baffled by the emphasis. The emphasis is what baffles me most. Somebody sent me a Thaum Hartman program blog posting where they bitched about FBI forcing companies to provide internet service turnover. The FBI details of your personal internet activity without court order. Fine it's on some blog post but that's not what the emphasis on these shows either Democracy Now or Hartman or any other of the progressive shows, they are preoccupied with this with these protests. And then the joke of it is that in Arizona a judge overthrows basically overthrows the law they have to go really back to the drawing board and do it the way they want to do it but the protest against the law are continuing anyway because when you listen to the guy say give a rationale well they're gonna keep fighting it so we might as well protest

31:17 You know, in other words you win. You've won essentially the battle because the courts threw out the law more or less but you're going to protest anyway because you've already scheduled it and what are these a bunch of bureaucrats? By the way Mickey would like me to point out that her immigration status is based upon the fact that she has an exceptional talent and is therefore welcome here in the United States It's not because she's on par with someone who will clean the floor That's that she gets really angry when I say it's just you know she gets angry when I say you just bought a surprise She's listening to ya of course. She listens. She only listens to my side though. She doesn't listen to you Yeah, she didn't care about part at the show No, she's good. She's getting the best part right here baby Put your pants back on hey. I got 43 seconds left on this let's what some more and then we'll get off We're done with it 0-2-4 and City Hall this Tuesday

32:14 The resolution 0224 is a declaring of an official boycott against Arizona State. And that would mean any business travel that would be going in Arizona, it would be barred anyone from here going there. Municipal bonds will not be accepted from Arizona also conventions and uh... Any type of business we just would not help. This is un-American shut up I don't want to hear it No words. So how do you stop the bond? Oh, well who's gonna use it what do you mean that you can't buy municipal bonds from Arizona? That's ridiculous! It's ridiculous! You gotta love it though. Well I guess this is a long clip so it gives me something to... Hey hey good news though John good news good good good news Good news for our El Presidente. Alo Presidente on Face The Nation

33:11 uh... this past what i guess that was there was a sunday at the twenty-fifth yet is past sunday uh... and we finally found out to be true nature and true birthplace of our president it was on television and i have learned how good i have the clip to prove it's a missed its yes here comes michael eric bison of georgetown you wanted to get into this discussion when we went to work movement commercial break he about a couple things first of all I agree with Dr. Thurnstrom that look, there is an enormous ratcheting up of the incivility of racial discourse in America but the problem is not that we offer criticism to Mr Obama. Mr Obama, I met with him a couple weeks ago at the oval office he was quite receptive to criticism, principled criticism and criticism that's rooted in intellectual difference

34:02 This guy's ebonics are amazing, by the way. Yeah, I did hear that it's from it's been proved by baby. It's all it takes now take your papers with you Mickey's going out just take your papers Take your papers in the group. Thank you papers Oh by the way before I forget she is so pissed off

34:45 Because when she wants to buy alcohol or tobacco, which we have been known to consume. She has her Dutch driver's license. We have to get our California state driver's license and she has a Dutch passport and they will not accept it as valid ID uh... let me that's in it and ledger brought that up because i think this happened i was over with jc uh... at the pyramid brewery but to try some new beer and uh... and jc looks you know he's twenty five or whatever but he did you know it is a used seventeen if u mickey does i mean mickey looks young but you know she doesn't look like she's under twenty one now she doesn't have a bit actually she does not imagine about making looks like she's about sixteen

35:33 She's already gone. She took her papers and split it. Oh, that was too bad I blew it Good try good try It always works though but let me tell you why they're refusing Well before we do that let me continue the story So he goes in there and the guy says no In Berkeley now you can't He pulls out his passport What better idea is this? This is the papers were talking about Pulls out his passport No its new good It has to be a state an official state ID. It's supposed to be the State of California driver's license and I said what? Yeah, and I looked this up because Mickey came home fuming and she's on the phone to Ralphs it's like I want the manager you know bruh

36:11 She's going off and she's gone. She's going off man I'm like, okay baby Let me look this up for you It turns out that it is not absolutely not a law that you have to have a state ID however it is of course the responsibility of the place selling the tobacco or liquor in If they catch someone underage buying any of these products, then regardless the store is in big trouble. So it's store policy that it has to be a California or in this case California but a state identification and its because of the eye color hair color and height are not on all passports

36:57 and pictures are not always in color. There's all these really stupid little things, but it is not a law! It is absolutely not a law that has to be a state ID But somehow people have gotten into their noggin that it has to be and its irritating Of course when I go pick anything up they don't even ask me for my ID like hey old man here you go smoke up! Yeah she gets it once at the gas station? At the gas station for cigarettes and then for alcohol at Ralphs. For cigarettes? That's ridiculous this state is crap you know they claim at the pyramid brewery that it was the Berkeley police that made the decision bullshit that's not just it's just not true I looked it up, I looked at all the state legislature of all the laws

37:46 They just have to be able to not sell products of someone who's underage, however they prove it. They could measure your feet It doesn't make any difference it is not a requirement that has to be state-identified So they lie? Yeah but I also only have a passport and I've got Dutch driver license which even worse which actually expires in a month I gotta get my just pain in the ass DMV. I want to deal with it. Yep, but you get ready to wait in long lines This is a very interesting contrast of the Washington State DMV You walk in...you walk right up to the counter They give you cappuccino I'm pretty close. Have a Peet's! So dark, so you go up there and walk to the counter but there is nobody there they fill out the form around this spot They stamp some stuff that give your license right on the spot They give you tags for your car right on the spot And you're out of their in five minutes Yeah i gotta take the test actually Well you have to take a test too A driving test? I have to take the driving test Yeah of course you do

38:47 Crazy Dutch guy, but I have a valid license from another you're gonna have to park Here's the test can you park and can you feed the meter? Yes, just remember one thing there. Oh, we've got a couple of tricks in there One of them is when you make a right turn Do not this is one of the tricks for the driving test for anyone out there once and tried to get the light it varies by The way from state to state For example, when you make a left turn in California into say a six-lane road. You can actually go into any of the lanes for the left turn. Dude! The test is on closed basketball courts. No they don't!

39:25 Since when not Mickey went down there to check it out And she said that there's a couple of pylons and you drive around them your parallel parking your dogs pretty lame That's awesome. Well, we'll see what you never know But whatever the case is The tricky question is is when you make a right by the way in Washington State When you make a left turn like that You have to go to one lane only that near at the Lane nearest to you When you make a right turn in California? You have to keep it in the right lane You can't veer into the next lane over when you're making a right turn. You have to be tight and keep it in that... otherwise, it's an illegal right turn so that's the trick Even if there is an arrow on your lane? If there's an arrow on your lane, you still have to go turn into the lane nearest to you. You can't zoom into the fast lane Another tip from John C DeVore I have a billion of them We love it

40:17 So here's a story I want to play, we're on the political thing. And they got all these clips from these... Funny, we're on politics and it never happens Well heres one that was good, go with the Thom Hartmann show No give me your part, give me something! Okay here you know your buddy Wiener? Anthony Weiner from Brooklyn? Yeah, that guy. John Stewart's former roommate. So he blew up in Congress right? Well didn't we play this clip when he blew up and then they made him take it back take it back that was all about the Republican I think with health care

40:56 This is another health care, this just happened. Well the guy I'm sure he does it more than once Yeah because he likes to get on TV He's an angry young man Oh yeah so now he blows up over healthcare for victims of 9-11 a specific healthcare bill So he is Chuck Schumer's boy by the way But if he doesn't keep a lid on it marginalized. Well this guy could, he's going all the way I mean he's trying... He's not gonna make it. Mmm-hmm. You know what? He'll make senator and that's gonna be the end of him. But he is congressman! Yeah you go to Senate and that's the end of him. That's a step up

41:32 It is a step up. So Hartman had this clip, I had the clip from C-SPAN but then Hartman had it... Had the same clip but he was doing voiceovers and making comments and he's talking about Wiener kicked his butt! He kicked his ass! He kicked it you know? It's like... Hartman sounds like a 12 year old in a schoolyard fight when Wiener comes up and blows up at this representative, and this is very not too dissimilar from the other time he blew up. And so the issue at hand is apparently there was some legislation that got voted down that would have given victims of 9-11 free health care. Do we know why it was voted down? Do we know what the opposition was?

42:16 I never got the whole story because you couldn't figure it out from this guy or Hartman. They never said, but the punchline is that it was voted down after Wiener made this big fuss I think it was just voted down because it was just another you know scam of some sort. Probably was We need to look into because I only heard about this last night And they just didn't have time and quite honestly, I couldn't find anything. I'm like what? This makes no sense No, it doesn't make any sense but which is why its being played up obviously yeah So let's play this clip It's very funny area and uh... connie congressman peter king who also represents new york state area part of your statements for the next upstate partnership carson catering to the republican was leading a procedural effort to stop the vote so by the way is a new thing

43:11 it's a new mean this is all that i don't know but the move the meme is the procedural because you know what about the feeling for the busters and make it sound as though she has never been done before by separate evil republicans yeah and of course uh... it can be removed immediately uh... only democrats don't want to do that because they want to have the same procedural benefit when it moves them right exactly anthony weiner the democrat goes on my house floor and just absolutely raises hell with Peter King, the Republican about why Peter King is using this slimy technique to try to stop this thing. And every time this guy stands up and says basically stop talking Anthony Weiner shoves it down his throat watch this. Mr Speaker I yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from New York, Mr Wiener

44:00 Great courage to wait until all members have already spoken and then stand up and wrap your arms around procedure. We see it in the United States Senate every single day where members say, we want amendments! We want debate! But we're still a no! And then we stand up and say oh if only had a different process we'd vote yes. You vote yes if you believe yes. If you're in favor of something or believe its the right thing the wrong thing you vote no we are following a procedure I will not yield to the gentleman and the gentleman will observe regular order. The gentlemen will observe regular order. He's nailing him. If he gets up and yells at us, it is going to intimidate people into believing that he is right. He is wrong! The gentlemen is wrong! The gentleman is providing cover for his colleagues rather than doing the right thing. It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans rather

44:50 on behalf of the heroes. It is a shame, a shame! If you believe this is a bad idea to provide health care then vote no but don't give me the cowardly view that oh if it was a different procedure the gentleman will observe regular order and sit down I will not The gentleman will sit! The gentleman is correct in sitting. Wow, he's doing a shut up slave on him. Totally. The gentlemen will sit? Shut up slave?! I will not stand here and listen to my colleagues say oh we're in procedure that allows us to stall, stall, stall and then vote no instead of

45:35 your colleagues in voting know on this new main bail you should have a good yes something the gentleman has not done. There you go Anthony, we are good on ya sir and just kicking Peter King's butt uh... erotic rasta house floor and call them out but still has failed this simple it goes so that i think a little bit of the fact that we have a line address kate is back by shielded failed yeah i think you're right i think anthony wiener um... so first of all he's he's one of these young guys at my age younger than i am but kind of same age in his uh... he has understood the message to me miss very clearly procedural tactics

46:18 And I just gotta presume that this is bogus and that's why procedural tactics are being used. I can't imagine anyone, Republican or Democrat not wanting to offer something as simple as special health care to first responders of the inside job known as 9-11. Right in the foot well... You saved that for the second half of the show. So WTC7 won't go away! The point is, is that there's something... We have to look into it we'll figure it out we'll have it for one of our shows in the future And yeah, that's what you do. You've got a situation where you set up a law which has got a lot of writers and other kinds of weird stuff in it but the law itself is like the Child Protection Act Law and in the law there are a bunch of earmarks and crazy things thrown in It has nothing to do with child protection whatsoever and you can't afford to vote no on it because

47:10 Well, what he voted no against the check because it comes down to the campaign labor. It's about the children! He voted no against child protection. He is a bad person So you have to come up with some other way of doing it because you don't want to vote yes Because the bill sucks and so you've so you come up with some bogus You know this thing and then this guy blows up and makes you look like an idiot or course he looks like an idiot doing it But the whole thing is just that, you know this is the problem that they have with these bills and all these hidden agenda features built into the bill. They don't want to do anything! They don't want to line item vetoes...they don't wanna do this or that..They just create a Children's Protection Act. They might as well name every bill that. And then you load it up with a bunch of pork and scams and crazy ideas and laws that got nothing to do with anything

47:58 And you know, and then you put it in as the Child Protection Act. It's got nothing to do with it! So... Mickey says 16 I love you John she just texted me. I guess she's listening to the stream in the car Well here's another example of how that works so we were talking about your health care now being added to your W-2 forms which is essentially the form that your employer sent to the IRS so that they can show what taxes have been withheld. It's a tax document and Eric the shill actually sent this to me factcheck.org which of course is part of the government John you and I are wrong we're wrong so they quote from this email that's been going around

48:47 Question, does the new health care law require workers to pay income tax on the value of employer provided health insurance? Answer no. The value will appear on the employees W-2 forms for information purposes but will not be considered taxable income Words matter in this case because then they go through this whole thing like oh, this email is bogus and perhaps you should you overlook the most important line in the legislation where it states a requirement that businesses include the value of health care benefits they provide to employees on W-2's beginning with w-2 for 2011. The amount reported is not considered taxable income I believe that this is double speak

49:33 And if you look up the word consider in the dictionary, it is equated to belief or something you might think. It doesn't actually say it's not taxable income no, it will not be considered taxable income and I think that just a set-up for becoming taxable income in future What do you think? Well, I'm going to have to read some of this over and we'll see. We need a tax attorney here for this but... ...I would be guessing that it would go something like this because they don't want to... So you make say somebody makes $10,000 a month and then on top of that they get $3,000 worth of health care which is probably low

50:21 And so their income is $10,000 a month. The 3,000 isn't considered taxable income but it... Why would you do this? Isn't the word considered and why did they say considered? Why not just say it's not taxable income? It isn't taxable income! Why does it say isn't considered taxable income? But is it in itself taxable that's the question In other words, when I go buy gasoline and they tax me for the gasoline it's not taxable income but i'm paying tax. Right. Well adding a benefit...I'm paying tax on the benefit in other words I'm buying gasoline It's not...and I'm paying X amount of money in taxes for the gasoline let's say by four dollars with the gasoline a buck in taxes

51:09 I have to pay that dollar, but it's not because i have three dollars in taxable income from the gasoline. No, I understand your point. I'm just taking exception with the word considered. I don't understand why they have to throw that in there just say it's not taxable. It has anything do with a 1099 at all? W-2 I'm sorry, what did i say? 10 to W2. There's something fishy about it so you know it'll shake out but they're gonna ding us! When does a chance... who is against.. I mean except for the Democrats there seem to be really for taxation which is something that I watch all these left-wing and progressive shows and they seem to relish the idea of massive taxation

51:52 I don't get this and I argue with friends of mine who are Democrats. Yeah, they're Berkeley. And I say what is why do you want more taxes? Well we need taxes to pay for this and that. More taxes! What do they want more taxes for?! They want more taxes!! It's crazy. Really? Who are these people you hang out with these people? This highway over here, Highway 80... Oh don't start with the potholes again please Please don't start with the potholes We're tired of the potholes Just saying that there are potholes Yeah but who were you hanging out with get some new friends These guys are okay Well let me tell you about taxes then okay Here's here's the taxes first of all how about tobacco tax

52:37 Alright, so that is now what we've gone up 156% on federal taxes on tobacco since the Obama administration came in. Of course we have the tax of indoor tanning services We have the medicine cabinet tax which goes into effect in January You can no longer use your health savings account, which is what actually we advocated on this show. So that will know it's actually going to put huge taxes on withdrawing money from a health savings account so you can't basically save for healthcare the special needs kids tax goes into effect in 2013. The medical prosthetics and devices tax in 2013, the medical itemized deductions cap takes place January 2013 I mean these are all taxes all part of the legendary legislation! Where are the people? I'm still waiting for someone on television to say I got free health care this thing rocks yay President Obama. I still haven't found that person. I have not found that person

53:42 And everyone's forgotten about it. We're on to Lindsay Lohan in jail, which is also onto some other Bullcrap that you know of course they can't keep trying to push through the cap and trade so back to well actually we could you know At the point where she have any real news I'm bored well. I got some I got some real news Okay What? Well, I got real news. Play the real news and... I just played the real news! Do you not hear the real news?! What? Didn't you hear the jingle? The re-I heard the real news jingle Okay so that's your cue Real News Oh I thought you were going to talk about Lindsay Lohan getting out of jail in nine days instead of ninety Nooo screw it i was gonna talk about our first lady what happened to her well she is in Marbella right now with the rest of the gangsters In where? In Marbellia

54:42 Spain you know the kind of why vacation oh but Marbella I've been there it's like we have two wars going on to nothing with each time well there's nothing but gangsters they're that's where they got is that right Oh since its 100% gangster paradise rolls-royces up and down the boulevard nearly huge yachts yes Yes, it's horrible. It's disgusting and like oh my god you want to buy a t-shirt You can only buy it at like the John Galliano shop in $300 t-shirt This is crazy there as its nuts is where all its world the gangsters go to vacation really yeah Yeah And then we have Obama's going there I think it's only the first lady and Sasha I don't know they got to go collect some money from somebody

55:29 And then of course we have... You're saying that the First Lady is a bag man? She's a bag man. She's a black bagger. Okay, so as of 3 p.m. Eastern Time So that's in just two hours from now there is a no-fly zone along the Hudson River In New York As Chelsea Clinton will be getting married to the Goldman Sachs investment banker Mark Mezvinsky That's I would have to say as an aviator that is rare that happens. Of course the FAA website says the restriction is in place for very important person movement, but that's it

56:16 uh... it's even you know you tell me that they could take this shut down the airspace for in ex-presidents daughters wedding yet and as well of course is going to be lots of gs people there but i think it's essentially just stop paparazzi helicopters that's what it's about so they don't protect anybody else none of them into paparazzi when he was a slave shot up slave you don't get any special protection by the way our vegan residents are Claims and I think he may be right that Chelsea is a vegan. That's new oh really yeah It's just me get very public No, no but she's uh Well wait a minute. I think she did an interview in health & style magazine where she says She's a vegan maybe you just said it just to get in the magazine

57:04 I don't think she needs to use that to get in a magazine. I think she can get in any way she wants, but it's cool the way the elites are just all marrying into each other Oh yeah this is like with the king of Spain marrying his daughter of the queen of England you know these deals Yeah its beautiful, its a beautiful thing They need some Goldman Sachs people in their family anyway with all that money that Clinton is hoarding So let me do a quick little thing on the United States of Europe because it's always important to talk about these things as a warning and also just to show you how it always goes down in real life. Of course we saw half of the Polish government wiped out in a fog-related accident now, We have Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary and he is doing exactly what our Rest In Peace President of

58:04 Poland did. He's sticking up a big middle finger to the IMF and oh yeah back in the early days of the financial crisis Hungary's economy I'm reading here was one of the hardest hit in the European Union, the EU and the IMF moved quickly to stave off a financial collapse by promising a 20 billion euro standby bailout package to back the country's finances The package is enormous by any standards, comprising over 15% of the country's GDP. And basically Prime Minister Orban said take your package and shove it quote I run this country not you poor guy

58:43 So, and what he's done... We should have a deadpool on him. Yeah so he's essentially said to his financial sector He said you guys are going to take, go ahead and fail I'm not gonna put in austerity measures i'm not making the people of Hungary pay for this You go ahead and take your lumps and shove it And this of course has not sitt well with the European Union and IMF The economic hitmen of the world So I see yeah, I think we do need a deadpool on the guy. I would recommend not flying for awhile And don't get into your jacuzzi train take this take the train get it Don't get in the Jacuzzi because you know You might close the lid on top of you and suicide yourself and and good on this guy for standing up against The true evil

59:34 In the world. My prediction? Hunting accident! It shouldn't be when, it should be how That's our Deadpool. It's not when the guy is going to die How is he gonna die? You think hunting accident huh? Yeah I think that would be a good one because they haven't played that game for awhile Well hold on let me Google him Let me see if he has any hobbies If you like place poker could be an unfortunate card cutting incident Could be all kinds of... And we can just guess how this guy is gonna get it. Let's see He spent his mm-hmm, okay limited Management of training boring boring. How do you spell last name again? Oh our B a n Victor or bond

1:00:18 Uh, oh! Hold on a second. He's very fond of sports especially of football that would be soccer of course ooh unfortunate football accident what do you think? Struck by lightning uh on the football field doesn't look like much of a hunter in fact that's a great cover On his first hunting expedition yeah that would be perfect right he's very fond of sports especially football like you said also there was these sportsmen that could be Oh boy. Well, I like that he just stood up there and said, I run this country not you to the IMF! Yeah! That's huge! Absolutely huge It's a death warrant So sad...

1:01:04 Right or something. There'll be a there could also be a scandal like it roused him No, I think this guy's actually got to go. I mean and now he's writing their pocketbook You know he's saying banks screw you you then go ahead bankrupt. You're done get out of here I'm not gonna put it on the people that's that's so huge I mean That's a true hero But of course that's exactly what the president of Poland in and then he got on a plane Now was it? Let me read this, in July 2007 the economist criticized his cynical populism. Cynical that's good, the economist is turning into a mouthpiece you know like they did the train thing. Cynical populism and mystifying authoritarian socialist style policies meanwhile domestically strongly demonized by the majority of left wing and liberal media

1:01:51 Here, chat room says bizarre garden at gardening accident. Falling down a stairwell. Hard well things always good heart attack with a prostitute that's a double whammy for you that's a double tap right there yeah it's a good one ate some bad mushrooms mmm slipped choking in his own vomit oh that's always a good one too Oh my goodness. People think we're kidding! Unfortunately, we're not you know which is you can just sit here and just predict this stuff it's so easy we see time and time again It's getting pretty easy

1:02:27 So I have a, if we're going to do this kind of...I have a kind of talking about it because it's kinda real news story but not quite. This is you know remember at the Mevio they used to have this Indian quality control guy Shrikant who couldn't speak No he could speak perfectly just couldn't understand what he was saying He couldn't understand a word that he said and one of the people at the company I won't say who always wanted put him on his show as sort of joke Yeah, which I thought was the most racist rude thing ever totally racists only appropriate. Yeah So I'm so I'm thinking well You know who people actually pull this kind of a stunt is to see if they get away with it so BP put out this ad and

1:03:11 that has a guy who supposedly is in charge of some, some of the oil cleanup and the guy can now not for the life of him either pronounce any word but he can't pronounce the word oil. He keeps pronouncing it Earl and everything in between and so you listen to this with your jaw drops You say what are they? Who are they? Is this just to insult the public I don't know Probably Let's listen to it There's oil out there we've got to capture. My job is to hunt it down I'm Fred Lamond and i'm in charge of BP's efforts to remove oil from these waters

1:03:48 BP has taken full responsibility for the cleanup, and that includes keeping you informed. Every morning over 50 spotter planes and helicopters take off in search for the oil. We use satellite images infrared and thermal photography to map and target the oil then the boats go to work almost 6 000 vessels these are thousands of local shrimp and fishing boats organized into task forces and strike teams plus specialized skimmers from around the world We've skimmed over 27 million gallons of oil water mixture and removed millions more with other methods. We set out more than 8 million feet of boom to protect the shoreline I grew up on the Gulf Coast, and I love these waters we can't keep all the oil from coming ashore but i'm going to do everything I can to stop it And will be here

1:04:36 Well, the guy's just southern. I mean that's just a southern accent This is not a normal southern accent Most everyone i know from the south can say oil They don't say ore It's a marketing piece The guy grew up there he says it has to look like By the way, it's not true. None of this is true BP is actually pulling back on cleanup efforts Oh, I'd say you know Time magazine another arm of the Ministry of Truth says they got a big budget It's not all that bad. It's okay Yeah And I have here in my possession this this is really fun remember the the 30

1:05:12 I'm sorry the 20 billion dollar escrow not fund but escrow that BP promised to set up which by the way if i can believe Mr. Fine is it Feinberg the guy who's in charge of doling it out? Feinberg or Feingold one of the two. Yeah, I forget anyway I was watching The C-Span coverage Those are secret negotiations, by the way between the Obama administration and BP. And he is even not privy to the actual framing of the agreement it has still hasn't been done but it's starting to get done and here's how works they don't actually transfer any money they are obtaining letters of credit from certain banks and their non-american banks I might point out I have seen with my own eyes a letter of credit for one almost 1 billion dollars

1:06:00 from HSBC and that is how the escrow works. So the money stays in their account, and the funniest thing is it says we hereby certify this money has not been obtained by criminal means. It's a great letter of credit! So it's a total scam...it's a total, total, total scam. And yesterday Congress voted for the moratorium to be ended on drilling off the Gulf Coast. So here's how it worked, first we end everything we ended long enough three months and you know this drilling costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a day per rig so all the smaller guys had to get out because they couldn't afford not to be drilling they all left who has left BP?

1:06:54 now the moratorium has been lifted and now the only outfit there that can still afford it and that's left is BP. And of course, BP will probably file for some kind of bankruptcy to just transfer the assets to the new BP. It's a perfect scam! By the way, these scientists from the Obama administration who lied... This has already come out in congressional testimony they lied I'm sorry, I said it the wrong way around They didn't lie. They told the truth, the administration turned their words around and put the moratorium on none of this is no one has to account for that so this 90 day stall was based upon testimony that was falsified let's put it that way and then no one gives a crap No ones being pulled in front of Congress or congressional testimony anything for any of that

1:07:49 and just keep on going let's talk about blow jobs on joy bay are here you know it's nuts we need to thank we need thanks people speaking of blowjobs yeah first let me get a preface this by talking about what goes on in the regular media there is an interesting thing happening at the moment this is one of the things that why again have to be a listener supported show because we don't need to or want to or have any desire as a matter fact to appeal to the major demographic that the television people 18 to 49 which is the big money now I there's a bunch of things happening in the media right now which has has to do with this and i want to mention it take and there's a couple articles on deadline dot com discussing this and we just referred both two of these articles one is TV ageism 40-year olds are now declared old

1:08:39 I'm ancient! After separating contestants by race and gender in recent editions of Survivor, it was probably inevitable for the CBS reality show to also play an age card. Indeed the network this morning announced that the new 20 new castaways on Survivor Nico Raguo will be divided into two tribes of 10 young versus old What was surprising for me was the criteria The old tribe features individuals over the age of 40 while the young tribes comprised by individual 30 years of age and younger So in other words, 40 is now old. And so this meme is continuing, this ageist meme which by the way it's interesting coming out of liberal Hollywood. It's kind of a bigoted ageist meme and I just got an email referring to the show Rookie Blue which not only was it...the recent episode which is available on Hulu has a 90 year old man who people everybody in the show excoriates as being old and then it turns out that the ninety-year-old man that was in the show was also the murderer?

1:09:40 and a pedophile. So they're trying to you know again this is the kind of this ageist bigotry is starting to show up on television because they can't deal with abroad... Because they can't sell ads based, because there's this myth that it has 1824 and they can't, 1834 maybe. And there's three or four demos but anything over 49 is out! The sweet spot is 1824 up to 34. They can't sell anything so they have to get rid of them in fact just alienate them we don't want you showing up here at all We only want the young kids Yeah they do not want him showing up because it indicates bad sign that somebody older than age 40 would be watching your show

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1:15:40 Since the night rings are still in the making. Moving along! Yeah, moving along... So here's the first of what would be 12 nights of the Noah agenda roundtable The Order Of The Mint This is a special knighthood apparently This is I think he's only gonna make 500 coins so the challenge is for producers to For producers that's what we call our listeners to purchase a total of five hundred coins from no agenda fans comm that will generate nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine dollars and 99 cents for the show No, Agenda fans will increase that two twelve thousand three hundred and forty five dollars in sixty sixty seven cents which of course is I love the numerology one two three four five six seven

1:16:18 and make $11,000 of that donation through knighthoods purchased on behalf of 11 non-knights that order at least one coin towards the goal of 500. So not only could you get a beautiful coin but also receive a knighthood and today we would like James Adamson to step forward. James come on over here James it's gonna take him a second because he lives in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Gitmo Nation Great White North. Well James we've cert- Wow! Oh man that coin just blinged in my eyes It's a beautiful thing On behalf of the Order of the Mints We hereby pronounce The Sir James Addison- uh Adamson Knight Of The No Agenda Roundtable

1:17:07 There we go. It's official now. Okay, now I have a couple of points of order here first of all i do want to thank george vanderhorst he gave us fifty bucks and passed it over from kotzhovel. oh, kotzhovel? netherlands uh... so you can't say anything now we have a... did you get mark tissing? I think you missed him too Did I? Mark Tissing in Amsterdam? No no, we did him twice okay my mistake So in the debate with Eric as we speak on the chat back channel over whether Paul Couture, because he has donated a thousand dollars I think total on his own if he gets a knighthood or if he wants one yet.

1:17:53 I think the guy needs to be knighted regardless. No, i realize that but does he want it now or is he going to pass it off and then take it at the end? I don't know Take it at the end what are you saying? Maybe a poor choice of words! Let's just take this at the end Well you know what Paul can let us know He'll let us know and uh... I'm happy give him a special order of the mint anything he wants Yeah okay we'll just do something special Now he's gonna be a black knight if this is true Ooh, a black order of the mint night of the No Agenda Roundtable. It just gets longer and longer... People by the way, good Reverend who donates to this show he is working on his knighthood and he says you know because I'm in the clergy I can't officially use the title sir in front of my reverend and he wants no can he do a suffix

1:18:47 And would that be like a night of the Noah agenda round table? R? Oh, right. Well yeah right like the order of the British Empire OBE We have to dream up some of these things I don't like Conar doesn't sound right No Conar is no good it's too long should be three letters only and by the way so Eric has convincing evidence that Paul should be knighted this week oh hold on Paul wants it he go over here Paul I'm gonna give that to you man alright

1:19:25 You are indeed a special knight, my friend. And we are very proud to have you here on the podium... On the dais? The deus? Whatever you call that thing- That wooden box were standing on John- Yes good, you got your sword Paul Couture for outstanding achievement and support of the No Agenda program We hear by Knight V The Black Knight in the order of the mint, of the No Agenda Round Table. You are now Sir Paul Couture! I have a special seat over here right next to the hookers and blow for you Awesome

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1:22:25 and there is a support we need most highly highly highly appreciate the door tower slash in a regular no agenda show dot com and uh... also by the way needed to do did show notes that adam dick does for this show are astonishing it's almost like i mean i've seen people put links together but this if you're a researcher out they're doing any kind of political research you want track down these shown us that he has done at their distance phenomenal I mean, it's unbelievable. the open processor markup language format so it's also structured and this is what a lot of... So, it's a data set. Oh! Vivek Kundra would love me It's a data set that you can actually import and you can...it's very usable in this way In fact the Pocketnoagenda iPhone app uses it to...and then if you could actually search the show notes perfectly in that app because the show notes are structured

1:23:27 It's structured data. It's not just a bunch of links, you know There's headings and it's and there's a title and the link is all separate so it's it's a beautiful beautiful little thing Thank You John for that But I work very hard in putting those together And I think just about everything we talked about is mentioned in the show notes one way or the other? And that yeah, you're right if you're doing some research then this is the place. Yeah, it's a goldmine So we were talking about What was that, that Wunder drug again which is administered via needle? Vitarol. Was that it? Yeah that one by the way that reminds me we did a cover I forgot to bring this up last show and i think before you talk about that I want to bring back of... We did an ad the last ad that I played the last drug ad I play Let me play it again if I know what you're going to talk about And I think it's worth playing the ad again hold on let me Bring it up right here what was it called

1:24:29 Probably ran on the wasn't the last show. No, we know what definitely wasn't the last was this either the show before or their show before not to show before Was it the hey big brother? Yeah. Yeah, that's no yeah, maybe let's take a listen Hey Pete. Yeah It's me big brother put the remote down and listen this intervention brought to you by Nyospan So he got back on the cheeseburgers and stopped using your exercise bike as a coat rack That's it You're done

1:25:05 I don't think so. You told me your doctor's worried about plaque clogging your arteries What do you call it? Coronary artery disease That cholesterol medicine he also wants you on? Nyaspan I looked it up online. Hey Pete, you waiting for an engraved invitation? If you have high cholesterol and coronary artery disease and diet and exercise are not enough Niaspan along with diet and a bile acid binding resin is FDA approved not only to slow down plaque buildup but actually help clear some of it away. Pete as kids I always looked up to you

1:25:40 I'm just trying to look after you. If you cannot afford your medication, call 1-877-NIOSPAN. Niospan is not for everyone like people with stomach ulcers liver or serious bleeding problems severe liver damage can occur when switching the Niospan from immediate release niacin blood tests are needed to check for liver problems tell your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness this could be a sign of serious side effects This risk can increase with statin use. Tell your doctor about alcohol use if you've ever had gout or are diabetic and experience increases in blood sugar, flushing a common side effect is warmth redness itching or tingling of the skin ask your doctor about Niaspan fight back fight plaque Niaspan So of course we laughed about this because of the whole you know once again Well yeah we were playing it for the sociology Right And we didn't bother looking up the fact that this drug is bogus

1:26:31 It's a time-release version of just over the counter niacin. What is niacin? Niacin is vitamin B3, to be exact. And that can give you tingling sense? It's also known as nicotinic acid by the way for you smokers out there who like the word nicotine. If you've ever taken it... You can get it at Costco. Many people I've taken and it turned me blood red So it makes you flush. It's funny, it makes you... You just turn red as a beet! It's the weirdest stuff I... It's like, I don't know how many... Why did you take it? I was just taking vitamin supplements and I took one and said that... Did your brother call you? Sounds good. You take this stuff, you turn beet red. Did your brother call you and say hey big brother? Hey big brother, you're an idiot! You stupid, you're not listening! Take that Vitamin D!

1:27:25 Yeah, so basically they've run out of crap to sell us and now they make this sound like some wunder drug but it's vitamin B. It's over the counter you can get at Costco! Amazing... And they still put the big- We're remiss by the way for not knowing that But notice they still put the big disclaimer in there because that's what makes people buy this crap There's proof right there Good point Proof right there They could have said its a natural product its vitamin b, it great for ya No, they have to make it sound like it is some medication and then sell it on prescription Ask your doctor It just proves how lost we are. Lost I tell you! Vivitrol, this is what we talked about. Vivitrol is now popping up all over the country as this wonder drug that stops all forms of addiction and including gambling. I'm addicted to masturbation so this wonder drug

1:28:19 is now being used to reduce jail sentences in Pittsburgh. Yeah, this is where we didn't get to last week for the show So Michael Hickenbottom Sr., who was midway through a two and half month jail sentence for probation violations Wow! Lindsay Lohan nine days Mr. Hickenbottom two and half months once released early so he can participate in a drug-based treatment plan aimed at killing his urge to smoke marijuana I got an urge! I got a fever. The only thing that can cure my fever is more cowbell This is nuts, so here it is... the medication is administered once every 28 days as part of an outpatient treatment plan although district attorney Jack Hanekus Jr told Leskinen he prefers Hickenbottom's release to be contingent upon entry into an inpatient drug treatment center

1:29:17 Papa said Vivitrol based therapy works best as an outpatient setting. I don't know how that works, but essentially yeah this quote from the guy...I don't want to do grass anymore! I don't want to use alcohol anymore! It's amazing it's a wonder drug and this will be called the vaccine by the way you watch people will mistakenly call it a vaccine and I don't know what it does but it messes with your brain. It doesn't sound good. Let me ask you a question a personal question sure Now you used to smoke marijuana, I believe. Uh...I would say from wake and bake to sleepy time ten years in a row You was and you had an urge the urge to smoke it right? Yeah! Wake up i go yeah smoking all the time So what drug or what treatment what therapy What support group what was that you did personally Yes To stop smoking marijuana? I divorced my wife

1:30:13 Okay, well that's not a net. I'm just kidding! I just stopped. Wait wait wait don't stop hold on a second you're not hearing me through uh-huh You used to smoke marijuana? Yes. You were kind of addicted, you had this smoking... Kind of I was smoking in the stairwell at Mevio! I just asked the question what support group what drug did you take what shots did you get what did you do to stop nothing i just stopped no no see you don't understand. I stopped sticking it in my face It's not possible What do you mean? I foresee all these news reports. You were addicted to you had to have been helped by some group Oh drug, oh yes just stop can't just stop and have it be over with no It's impossible. I know I am living proof the you and a million other people yeah, it just stopped this is like okay I'm not gonna do this anymore And I just stopped and I've not touched it since and I don't miss it

1:31:14 It's actually, it's not addictive. I am addicted to nicotine however if i wanted to Could just stop you probably could I know I could because the the addict the addiction part of the physical addiction It's really like it's like 48 hours or something when I get on a long-haul flight and And fly, you know across the world and I'm not one of those people going. Oh, yeah No, I'd like to turn my brain off and I forget about it Of course, I'm stupid when I arrive in like damn I'd like a smoke right now You know and then I light one up

1:31:51 But I could, clearly i'm not like freaking out on the plane. I just stop. You know? I can stop in a restaurant we have fine meals do you see me freaking out like okay we gotta go we got to go we gotta go I've got to go outside and smoke Do you ever see me doing that? No By the way I'd like to thank everyone who sent in notices that they went to visit the wonderful restaurant Fringal in San Francisco after we discussed it Funny enough, people had a great meal there and when they said John and Adam sent us the maitre d' went who? Of course! They're like what?! I told them the phrase their French place. They think everybody's the Gestapo We don't know them Don't know them we have no idea All I knows is that you can walk into the place to get a table Who is this Jean Charles? We do not know of him. Ah go away, you aren't a Bordeaux

1:32:42 So anyway Vivitrol is It's making a march and you can watch this stuff. And how about this John? How about this for a small prediction Lindsay Lohan on Vivitrol Ooh! Watch it come. Just watch, you can watch it happen You can watch it happen because its part of the whole scam Yeah yeah you were leading up to that, you got me Yep I did Now it's uh Lindsay Lohan will be on Vivitrol It'll be outpatient basis so every 28 days She's gonna get a multi-million dollar contract to plug it That's upped the ante on this prediction And she'l do Vogue with her scram bracelet on It's gonna be the new hot fashion man for the fall. It's a scram bracelet. The whole thing is pathetic. But it's pathetic because it's a total scam, now this stuff may work I'm not saying that doesn't but come on! This is messing with your brain this is hallucinogenic this is doing something with your neurotransmitters and receptors

1:33:37 and raptors can't be good that's what we're trying to say doesn't sound like it smoked dope for two ten years or twenty years or however long it was and just stop cold turkey without thinking twice about it then anybody can in anybody could do it but wait a week when you say about me if I can do with anybody can do it yes like New York you know they could make it anywhere good news from get more nation great white north and I did not know this was going on However, British Columbia the British Columbian government has suspended a program that attempts to test the sexual responses of young male sex offenders and Have you heard about this program that they had? No. No Here's how the program worked it was oh My god is like I find it even hard to think about this

1:34:31 The test required offenders as young as 13 years old, you're a thirteen-year-old. I mean what did you do when you were thirteen to become a sex offender? I don't know how that's possible! To look at images of nude and semi nude children... Well that is illegal right there! Wait and listen to audio descriptions of forced sex while their wait while the physical responses were measured with sensors attached to the genitals My understanding is Colorado does this to this day. Really? Yeah, I remember... What century are we in?! Sounds like the second but the..I remember this coming up in a conversation when Kobe Bryant was arrested for rape or accused of rape allegedly raping somebody in a hotel and there was and he had all the best attorneys in the world and just came up with a conversation saying that if you if he was found guilty they would do this to him

1:35:32 to see what a sex offender he was. Wait, so what they're saying is if you look at a picture of a nude child and you get an erection then your sex offender? Apparently yeah This is crazy! This like the witch floats she's not a witch Right exactly this is creepy this just absolutely creepy my god Listen to audio descriptions of forced sex while their physical responses are measured by attaching sensors to their genitals. Well, they've stopped doing this! Oh good idea I think they're still doing Colorado. Really? Some Colorado, we don't have any Colorado contributors that i know of No kidding! They've all got sensors attached to their genitals. They are in jail. So uh... Alright yeah that's disgusting That is well I'm glad that they stopped it but I was like whoa Shantix by the way which we've been harping on for quite a while new report comes out and of course By the way Washington State apparently still does this according to Eric

1:36:35 and they even have a sex offender island prison. Excellent, yeah they want to do one of those off the coast of California we talked about that. Just put them all in Catalina So here's a report The clear temporal relationship lack of prior history of this behavior and unusual nature these events strengthens the accumulating scientific evidence that Verins...uh, verin...verniculin which is the medical name for shantix. Is associated with thoughts and acts of aggression and violence we recommend that physicians and pharmacists ensure that all patients are informed of possible psychiatric symptoms of Shantics including violent and aggressive thoughts again more proof that Mel Gibson is on this stuff and needs help

1:37:19 needs to be saved. Yeah, but we haven't obviously got the right degrees of separation. Someone is going to be listening to this show somebody and of course they're gonna take credit for it on Extra Yeah, you know doctor finds out that Mel Gibson's on shantyx Well actually they would suppress that information since Shantik is such a big advertiser again proving our point of theory Wow We have to be user supported so you'll never get into the public domain poor mel meanwhile this woman It's just oh pushing his buttons and the guys freaking out on this shantics crap. I mean killer And then get off if he takes Vivitrol

1:37:56 So talking about these ads, I do have one ad that i want to play. Oh! But again for the sociology and I don't care about the product if this is a pro-active it's because when I heard this guy's voice This is one of the most amazing... The voice over guys we're listening to here. Nice Do I get to emulate him? That's what I want to know. I don't think this is one you can do oh my goodness This is a happy voice and anyone who saw the movie office space and remembers that one restaurant where that happy guy with all the Pride buttons you got your pride buttons on that guy he is like the he's like it may even be his voice But this guy has the happiest voice

1:38:34 And it's a youthful happiness talking to women. And I found the sociology of this ad to be fascinating and his voice is just like, wow! But anyway let's play it Just in time for summer. Toss out your makeup and give your skin a fresh, clean look with the number one Proactiv. Now that my skin is clear after using Proactiv I don't even have to wear makeup it feels liberating! Now faster and gentler than ever before Proactiv clears acne on your face and body so you can show off your clear sexy skin all summer long. I bought a little spaghetti strap dress and it was really amazing feeling. Order Proactiv today! Normally $40, pay only $19.95 with this special offer And to give your skin that sexy summertime glow Indulge with our vitamin enriched refining mask Your free gift just for trying Proactiv The mask is awesome and it just feels like everything is just like

1:39:31 Fresh! Order now and we'll even add a travel size moisturizer. Perfect for summer call 1-800-7... I can do that guy. He's not all that good." I'm telling you, he is good by the way. It's just in time for summer! Don't you want to feel really good about your complexion? All you have to do is listen to The No Agenda Show. We'll even throw a free pride coin just for $33.33. It's going on right now all summer long right here at noagendashow.com

1:40:09 Yeah, you know something right pretty good. I could get some voiceover enough to get a checkmark. I busted an a vein Wait, what? You busted your boy busted of the vein on my head. It really hurt it probably hard to do that voice So just in time John it's really it's amazing will be flaring all summer long So donate now to the no agenda show at the vorac.org Slash na and we'll even throw in well nothing because we need your money just send us your cash so How do they get all these different girls who pronounce the word feel as Phil? Feel I feel phenomenal. I feel it feels great It feels great this proactive stuff is

1:40:59 It's very successfully marketed. It's for acne. Yeah. And, oh man girls swear by it! I've seen girls come into my daughter... this is a while ago She doesn't have the problem anymore, but with you know or teenage acne and the girls be like oh Tiffany Proactive and I need to use some proactive. Well. I think this stuff is like it hooks you or something Substitute for a Chapstick yeah exactly It was different brand And if you started using it you'd have permanent chapped lips But he kept having to put more of this crap on

1:41:35 Here's what no agenda show calm you'll pay for the whole seat, but you only need the edge Chat room is feeding me lines. This is great Maybe we should do a promotion with this voice seems to work it seems to work okay John um here's one for ya and actually oh boy I have a I have a one that fits under the heading of all aboard trains good planes bad Yay! Train's good, plane's bad.

1:42:28 So in these contracts of carriage they always have acts of God, right? And if there's an act of God then all bets are off. This is in many many contracts. Geez I think even investment contracts it's all over the place Yeah we have it our speakers agreement Well you do! Well its good because you can add something to it so what would you think constitutes an active god No, I would say a flood lightning strike Earthquake you know that sort of thing well on page 11 of their contractive carriage They have now changed this and they've added mechanical difficulties to the acts of God. Oh really? Yeah, God did it crap god broke the plane what a crock

1:43:21 That is bad. In such cases, the contract says passengers are entitled to refunds only on the used portion of their ticket Southwest has no obligation to provide compensation for any type of special incidental or consequential damages due to such an act of God. Let's just mechanical... Mechanical difficulties. Act of God I love it! I have another awesome Trains Good Plates Bad segment Wow this said this one blew me away and The Fix Is In And for those of you who are new to the program, we may have some new listeners. We believe that there is a huge... well we have pretty much evidence that the largest PR firm in the world or one of the most successful ones at it Hill & Knowlton is now in charge of United States high-speed rail project and are pushing this thing to no end and not just pushing trains but our slamming planes

1:44:11 Michelle Obama, our first lady. Her communications chief Camille Johnston has left the service of our first lady for a private sector job this would be vice president at Siemens By the guys trying to do the high-speed rail. The guys were only trying to do, they make the high speed trains! They make crap though...they're...they do not make good trains this is not going to work out for us But we've got the guy..the ex uh.... Big wig from Siemens now took the job for the California high-speed rail project and he took a huge pay cut of course sure He's got options and everything on the back end because they're gonna buy Siemens trains. We've got the first lady's confidant Communications chief so she just part of the the PR scam going to Siemens

1:45:05 It's just, it's amazing. Oh and there was a vote we missed! House Resolution 1366 passed July 27th recognizing and honoring the freight railroad industry and its employees yeah now we've got it. Warren Buffett invests in Burlington Northern the next thing you know all this stuff starts to happen And then we have Ray LaHood He is going to get a bunch of free track is what amounts to In olden days railroads had to put their track down And it costs a lot of money. So they're going to put high-speed rail track all over the place, nobody's gonna go on the high speed train and the freight guys are gonna say well can we use these tracks? Yeah you might as well! We're not using them. Boom! You get a nice free new track. So Ray LaHood which just sounds so gangsterish who was our transportation secretary was over there in Madison actually Milwaukee I'm sorry

1:46:05 And he says, well you know we've got a 2.5 billion dollar hole in the state but that's no problem because we're gonna lay down some track! An additional two and half billion dollars will be awarded for high-speed rail projects in Milwaukee This is happening said Governor Jim Doyle But here's the quote Lahood says, we need to get infrastructure in place then we'll have the discussion about how operating part of it will work. That's great! So first spend the money put it down then we'll figure out how to make it work okay great yeah just like pass the bill read later yeah great people sign contracts like that I've had people introduce contract don't worry about it will fix it afterwards no here's it will make you whole later that's the quote

1:47:01 Don't worry, man. We'll make you whole later and we'll fix it all up so Yeah So the I think if I look at the overview today And you can find it in the trains good planes bad woo-woo heading of The show notes and no agenda show calm. I think you'll see that trains are ahead eight to one this week Eight two one eight two one here's something we didn't talk about I'm sure came out maybe on one of the other shows you do This DNS key that like seven people have some kind of secret card thingy and they can reboot the root domain servers? Yeah. Have you heard about this? Well I know about it! Well one of these guys was on the BBC, and i wanted to share this little piece of audio with you because um...I just want to understand kinda what's going on in the way the BBC

1:47:55 Talks about it. This is you know, it's really like ooh He holds one of the keys It's all top secret and who's the catastrophe key for the Internet and a British computer expert has been entrusted apparently with personally have become part of I'll use the quote which will embarrass you an elite international circle of trust charged with restarting the internet in the event of a global catastrophe. I am the trusted community representative for Europe, for holding a recovery key share now what that really means in English is there were 60 people who were nominated to be holders of this recovery key from the European region and delighted to be chosen as the holder of the recovery key and in the event of fundamental catastrophic failure on the DNSSEC system

1:48:44 What I hold is a very small fragment of a key, a digital key that will restart the process of signing the route zone. It is so unlikely I'll ever be called upon but at least the process has been thought through for actually a full disaster recovery mechanism being in place Could you describe the digital key for me? Yes, it looks like a credit card. If you imagine the chip that's on your credit card that is actually a storage device and what I hold on that storage device is a very small fragment of the encryption key that is protecting the master root key And in the event of something catastrophic happening, what do you do? What are you and the digital key to do? I have to take my key over to a secure location in the US along with four of my colleagues. There need be a total of five of us present. The secure location has actually the hardware and also some additional keys which would actually restart the process of generating the DNSSEC rootkey

1:49:45 essentially switch it back on. Essentially, switch back on the DNSSEC service that would have been compromised It would work but it would be possible for the bad guy to pretend and masquerade as a legitimate commercial operation Why do there need to be five of you? Basically, no one party is in a position to hold the master key. And that is a very sensible approach if the key were exclusively held in one geographical region it could lead to fragmentation of the internet as we know We don't want to see balkanization of the global universal internet I know you won't tell me but I'm guessing there's mind-boggling security before you get to this location...I'm guessing It's in a desert

1:50:28 and you go down in a lift, is that right? You don't go in the lift but it's in the desert and exceptionally secure I'll be assured. And yes... I'm also seeing a man in purple with a big hat but its not tha- Far from it though What the hell does that mean? A man in purple with a big hat? I dunno what the fuck that means So What's up with this? I mean it seems to me like this is more a key to bring down the internet. No, no It says reboot system This is all they're talking about is rebooting the DNS system if they have to if something crazy happens And they need to do it with you that decide this doesn't bother me in the least

1:51:05 And the fact of the matter is, the internet's not going to completely go down anyway because there are these alternative DNS systems. I was just gonna say don't we need noagendaDNS.org or something like that? Don't we need our own DNS system? We don't need... No! Of all things in the world we'd need that's not one of them. Oh come on! Come oooon! I want a DNS service! You gotta keep tagging the real ones it's too much work Anyway, the point is this isn't a big deal The big deal seems to me that the guy has to travel there. Yeah, and this would be some remote way of doing this but and whether it's in the desert or not really I wonder...I mean I remember I visited May East once and a guy said you're gonna die when you see this place Oh it's crap! It's a bunch of everything strung up. Go in there, it's in Virginia one of those spook towns

1:51:53 and it's in a basement of some garage. And you drive in, and the main pipe that goes to Europe is actually across the driving thing so if you're like a truck that's too high for the ceiling, you'd bust it! and I think they've changed a lot of this since i visited. I had a bunch, if I did a photo essay and published it somewhere showing the inside of this thing is you know its locked room, if you have a key can get in throw grenade in there finish off European connections but anyway I think that they may have secured better because some I seen other... Since you were there probably somewhat. I remember when May East flooded do you remember that? Why is this guy here John do you remember when May East flooded

1:52:37 Remember that would have flooded because it's in a basement. No, it flooded once I remember and it took out the whole Eastern Seaboard Okay. Well, yeah, I think they moved it Oh Yeah But I remember when that flooded and there was like holy crap and all these servers just fried And it took them like three days to bring everything back online Just cuz they had to bring in you know get her a duplicate location at the time they were dealing with With how is it MFS? Metropolitan fiber systems, and it was it was hard back in the day to get all that stuff up and running again But anyway yeah No This doesn't bother me in the least And I think the guy over dramatized these you know if they've got what he used a word hey we gotta read there Was a bunch of computers that are consistent makeup the DNS system? Then if the thing goes down We have to just reboot them all You know we need some way of doing that this is what the process Is and it would probably take down the internet for a couple days

1:53:27 If it was that bad and the guy of course would flat the flyover Of course most people by the by this time are stupid enough to switch to Google DNS services Exactly This may trouble you then I've got a report here appears that Many very important drugs are in severe shortfall around the country. And these are drugs that are used in emergency rooms such as epinephrine lidocaine other drugs for heart stoppage, shock treatment. Epinephrine yeah. and Tennessee, Pennsylvania California have already seen the incorporation of the so-called alternate protocol because these drugs are in such short supply. And I was wondering if you'd heard about this? Obamacare Is this Obamacare is what it's done to us? I don't know It's weird though Just wondering Let's not get a heart attack this week Doesn't sound like a good time No, I'm going to hold off on that So i've got a couple clips I want to get into before the show is over

1:54:31 So I was watching again Democracy Now and i love the way they present their news it's just skewed. Really? You don't say! Yeah, its skewed to slammer the Americans so she said the woman there that woman that tries to be Walter Cronkite She announces that the cluster bomb treaty, I don't even know where this treaty comes from. The Americans refused to sign it! And so she's talked about the treaty and she says, America has refused to sign the cluster bomb treaty. I don't even know if it is a UN Treaty or what? So she mentions three countries that refuse to sign as though these are the bad guys but luckily she kind of mentions the other countries who wouldn't sign it either and its like who else is there play this clip

1:55:23 An international treaty banning cluster bombs goes into effect Sunday, but the United States as well as Russia and Israel have refused to sign the treaty. All three countries have used cluster bombs in recent years Other key countries who've refused to sign the treaty include Brazil China India Pakistan and South Korea What kind of treaty is that? Nobody's signing this thing! No one's signing it But she had to get the jab on Israel That's good who cares because enough stuff to kill everybody I need to talk about get mo nation down under for a moment first of all Kevin Rudd the former prime minister Who quit and is admired in all kinds of scandals? Oh, he had to go the hospital for gallbladder sad surgery doesn't sound too. Good yeah Yeah, I think they're like giving him a little message there But this is a report

1:56:17 That folks in Gitmo Nation East, the mother country in this case for Down Under will want to pay attention to Because really big and also get my nation lowlands I should say the oyster card of course is what everyone needs to use Almost exclusively if you really want to use the tube services the subway or any type of public transportation It is that this card. The same technology has also been deployed in Low in the low lands Gitmo Nation version and in Gitmo Nation Down Under. However, exactly what we thought could happen with this RFID technology is now indeed taking place I believe the system there is called the Myki M-Y-K-I I'm not sure about the pronunciation but I have a little clip here from TheAge.com.au This was their little jingle what they started off with. I've heard a story from Brisbane that this lady was on the bus

1:57:13 at the time of her murder, she didn't know there was a murderer there. She was contacted because the police were able to track where she was because they had a go card it's a smart card system just like the Metlink system and we're able to use her information to try and track this murderer. Each of these systems that have been put in around the world, now they are very common, have had to go through privacy concerns because it is possible if we know who the person is... ...to track them and I think that's not appropriate

1:57:52 And in fact, that's very much the way that it is organized. It is not appropriate or allowed under the law to when these things are set up to track people However there will be extreme cases such as this murder investigation where I think its okay if you circumvent the protections but should only be done on a very specialist case and with a very altruistic and positive reasonable reason to do so uh... i think the transportation secretary by the way is talking to an example of where the technology has some positive sides composite very much it's true that there are privacy concerns and i think you know we need to actually make sure we cover those things off um... and i think people at using might be aware can be privacy concerns

1:58:44 But I wouldn't be overly concerned about Big Brother. This example in Brisbane is an example where there were very positive reasons why the police wanted to do this, and it's a credit to the technology that we can try and use it for these purposes but I think it should only ever be done as long as its for you know... The children! Only if it's for the children. So there you go, they're just using it to track you down under Great! Great great great perfect And this of course is happening everywhere Where are we? Put your cards in a wallet that have either a little Faraday cage built into the wallet A lot of guys make this I'll get you the name of a wallet maker in Southern California that makes these wallets and It protects you from such snooping or if you just want to do simple... Get some lead foil

1:59:37 and wrap the card around your head. And wrap it around your head? You, maybe! Put the lead foil around the card and nothing's coming out or going into that card I can assure you. The C-SPAN video library is weird. What I get more and more often now is this clip is not available? I've gotten a lot of that recently, actually. Yeah, I'm not liking that. And then I clicked on it and said if you're unavailable send us a note. I sent them a note but never heard back. No, you're not going to hear back from them however... SCIENCE! United States Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson rebuffed recent efforts to prevent her agency from regulating greenhouse gas emissions. You know, the president has essentially given the EPA a carte blanche

2:00:24 to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, which is what is coming out of my pie hole right now. Stating that the evidence proving climate change is a problem remains quote robust voluminous and compelling in other words... The science is end! She rejected 10 petitions filed by the Attorneys General of Texas, Virginia and the Ohio Coal Association and other groups that urged her to nullify the endangerment finding. And she said no way shut up slave! Shut Up!! These petitions based as they are on selectively edited out-of-context data and manufactured controversy or controversy provide NO evidence to undermine our determination

2:01:07 Shut up, slave. The Body of Science. The body... ooh! The Body of Science! From the IPCC and the National Academy of Sciences supports the agency's findings that greenhouse gases threaten human health and the endangerment finding has been decades in the making EPA has determined that the petitioner's arguments and evidence are inadequate, generally unscientific and do not show that the underlying science supporting the endangerment finding is flawed. It is unbelievable! Well, you might as well go for that to my clip which is Tom Hartman discussing global warming and how... This is the most weird non-sequitur thing I've ever heard him say. The whole thing makes no sense but he dramatizes the news with this

2:01:58 Wait, there's more segment in people in Japan's worst heat wave has killed 66 people But wait There's more the US Environmental Protection Agency is smacked down petitions by conspiracy theorists who argue that global warming as a hoax No It's not but wait. There's still more Republicans with the potential support of a few Democrats Conservatives depending on oil money are geared up to block oil disaster reform bills in the House and Senate but wait There's even more more public campaign reports that house minority with gary canter took in almost a quarter million dollars to half a million dollars in the second quarter from the financial industry including goldman sachs and bank of america this is the number two republican house representatives one-of-a-kind ten recipients for oil and gas contributions without campaign finance reform that works expect more floods fires will still disasters and probably great depressions dot

2:02:51 How do you go from global warming to Republican Great Depressions? Yeah, and oh man. Meanwhile it's cold here in Los Angeles! No it's freezing today yeah we've had our of course July in San Francisco is a cold month usually and in a classic sense sometimes it's not but once in awhile it's perfect like this month has been the same fog fog fog sun fog fog fog but In the olden days, as I recall it as a kid you'd have the fog break up around 1130 to 1 and then it would be nice and warm. And then maybe roll in at night but now its staying out, its staying foggy until about 2. Yeah. Which is very annoying. That's August!

2:03:33 It's well, I see August tomorrow is all good. Well it's as good as August Let me ask you a question your Rolling Stone magazine has had a number of phenomenal expose exposing Goldman Sachs in perfect timing Of course for the put options As well as helping General McChrystal get out of the horrible situation he was in and installing the shill Petraeus How come they don't go after Wyclef Jean? He's a musician. And you know, and they have this puff piece on him and there is not... I don't even think there is a mention of the controversy surrounding his uh... Actually there is. I'm sorry

2:04:13 surrounding his non-profit charity at the very last line of this puff piece while Jean publicly admitted that his foundation has made some operational mistakes in the past he denied that he profited in any way off of this charity so this is a guy who was now filed all the paperwork by the way, his dad is ambassador to Haiti or yeah... in the United States. And friends with Clinton and yes very good friends with Clinton In 2006 Wyclef Jean I released a song which goes something like this. Listen to the lyrics of the first verse here of this song, which is titled If I Was President. Signs everywhere saying Wyclef for president.

2:05:04 I get elected on Friday, assassinated on Saturday. There you go that's what gonna happen so he'll become president of Haiti and they'll kill him and then put some other puppet in this is just the new world order laughing at us again They set this crap up in 2006 like hey watch this man it will be great I'm going to be president of Haiti dude and then like they'll shoot me but of course won't really shoot me I'll be living in Paraguay That's where I'll be hanging out. This is a total fix. I don't like this guy, I don't like this guy. I'm not gonna call that too crass. I don't like this guy! I don't like it either. I think there's something fishy about him. Duh! If you're friends with Clinton he's probably up there in the no-fly zone right now at the wedding. You watch Wyclef Jean performed at the wedding for Chelsea Clinton. Yeah it could be and wouldn't surprise me one bit. Wouldn't surprise me a bit

2:05:58 And then this was very funny. Mother Jones, who I think is a reasonably respected journalistic outfit they seem to still pay journalists to go and do some work have done some investigation on the Better Business Bureau The the reason they did this is because of this whole and I don't want to get into that this ABC News story about Glenn Beck shilling for a Gold Line International fleecing its customers. This is a buy gold coin scam and And of course gold Gold Line, I'm sorry Gold line has a A-plus rating from the Better Business Bureau in Los Angeles

2:06:37 And it was my understanding always that the Better Business Bureau was an organization you could call up and now of course they have a website, and you can check them out and see if a business is on the up-and-up. Isn't that kind of what its used for? Yeah kinda. Isn't this supposed to be good? Yes! No but I haven't heard any complaints So um... The way works as you pay $425 dollars uh..to become an accredited business with the Better Business Bureau So Mother Jones registered Hamas with the Better Business Bureau as an accredited business and the Better Business Bureau's Hamas listing states, the business is devoted to quote providing educational services to troubled youth. And has received an excellent rating from the Better Business Bureau

2:07:31 Hamas. Yeah, so I guess that does it for the BBB? Well it looks like they're not really doing a job anymore They're just collecting license fees right Wow Well you know this is the problem with this country hit me baby You know, it's basically people are getting scammed out of money. There is phony baloney certifications out there. It just take the money get to certain you set yourself up as a certifying agency and the next thing you know you start selling certificates in essentially It's ridiculous. Right, so I wonder if the how do you mean it's like does Underwriters Lab ever check anything anymore? I mean for that... Underwriters Lab is a huge commercial business and how about you know the car and drivers carve of the year they usually what this was it a coincidence that they seem to rotate through the brands hmmm So is there any about consumer reports

2:08:30 I think Consumer Reports does what they do. When i was at PC Magazine in its heyday and we would really look at stuff carefully, Consumer Reports would do something on computers or computer printers there was always crap it wasn't very good What they were saying was recommended this and that by the way they did with cameras too I think the Mamiya SLR in the olden days was always their favorite camera when everyone's buying Nikon and Canon the first for a reason. I don't know, i mean...I think that you..i don't think they go out of their way....I don't think they're bought off by any means. I think they're honest but i don't think that they're that great! So the only people you can trust and that's just marginally is us? Just the two of us we can make it if we try! That's right!! We are great!!! Go ahead and try us all summer long

2:09:25 You know, it's like you can't find anything out on Google. I mean things like Yelp...you have to use Yelp now to find out reviews of restaurants because you can't trust the reviewers and so the professional reviewers are all out to lunch literally but you can deconstruct things using these new mechanisms but is kind of painful It takes some getting used to how to use it properly and you can still get, take the wrong turn. I mean it's a hopeless consumer... The consumerist, the consumer movement is screwed over! Well thank goodness there's a new hot Russian spy to look at. Yeah we got a new one because the box office for

2:10:14 Angelina's movie wasn't doing too well. Salt, yeah! I thought they pumped it enough but apparently not No no it wasn't working well enough so they came out with a 24 year old Anna Fermanova she's hot by the way and she has a belly button ring wears bikinis on her Facebook pictures yes she is America's new... She has big fat lips like uh oh yeah no no she has a well that she's hot for a Russian What's your name? Anna Fermanova And she's currently under house arrest in Texas awaiting trial for knowingly and intentionally exporting contraband weapons grade, a weapons grade night vision scopes to Moscow. According to her booking papers she is 5'6", has a belly ring She likes slutty Halloween costumes and pointing at the camera when she's drunk

2:11:06 And Gawker actually has a lot of pictures of her. She's hot, man! She's great! This is bogus... No it's the pump up the box office for Salt! Yeah obviously she's not that hot Even Variety wrote a review of Salt and said you know if it weren't for the Russian spy ring I would have walked out of the movie but it was kind of compelling because they're saying it they're just saying it right out and out Anna Ferminova, come here you hot Russian minx. I'm a former Soviet spy come here comrade Let me lick your belly button ring And then the assault on salt has finally made it up north to get my nation great white north of course they couldn't use our

2:11:49 What is it the what was our Institute of Sciences report which is funded by the government? It's not really an independent organization. They got a beautiful building though, that's for sure So they have their own panel of experts The group chaired by Health Canada released its long-awaited report Thursday in Ottawa manufacturers are being encouraged to lower the sodium content of their products over time To meet voluntary salt targets The initial targets. The initial aim is to reduce people's average daily sodium intake by about a third to 2,300 milligrams that's like a teaspoon For adults 1,500 milligrams of sodium per day is considered adequate the group's goal of 20 through 100 milligrams is considered the most sodium people should consume each day So it's coincidental that every country just has all these

2:12:39 Yeah, all at once. All at the same time. It's all happening at the same time. Wow. Incidents. Wouldn't have anything to do with the Codex Alimentarius would it? Recommendations include revamping Canada's food labelling system to make sodium levels clearer for consumers, forcing restaurants to list the amount of sodium in each dish... What the hell is that?! That's bullcrap. You're like, oh I put three grains on this one Making companies use the same serving sizes in the nutrition facts table on the product labels Updating Canada's food guide with more information about sodium and calories putting more government money into research ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding There's a big one and monitoring sodium intake and releasing report each year looking at whether people are actually cutting salt out of their diets because if not We're gonna come and get you you slaves

2:13:27 Maybe they can give us Vivitrol to cut back on our salt addiction. Could be, yeah that could really help Meanwhile I'm still sprinkling some salt on my espressos and loving it Yeah i may have to try that It's really... but has to be sea salt just grind a little not too much otherwise you're like oh I'm drinking salt Just a little salt. This by the way seems to be an old-fashioned tradition and get plenty of emails from people saying yeah my grandmother when she would do drip coffee she'd always throw some salt into the grinds before dripping the coffee through the filter, so of course the system I have won't do that but just just a quick grind on top it does give in nice little kick It's interesting. It adds some dimension to the flavor profile

2:14:15 Oh, and you know the way you say that. And then finally before we get out of here and this is for the United States of Europe Of course were so pristine and uh... We don't want genetically modified anything although it's now been approved of course thanks to the Lisbon Treaty Report that cloned meat and dairy products are already lining the supermarket shelves in Gitmo Nation United States of Europe One British- Wait a second I was under the impression some years back. that the united states of europe was against g m all anything and they were going to tolerate the crap that we make over here in all the rest of what happened well they introduced the lisbon treaty which the dutch in the french uh... voted down as the european constitution they then came back and a poll apart made into this beautiful document which no one got to vote on except for the irish by the british were promised to vote they weren't allowed to vote but the dot should not get to vote and

2:15:18 You're describing a coup d'etat. No. Monsanto! They are clearly... Monsanto d'Etat. Yeah, they are like Monsanto d'Etat One British farmer said he was routinely selling milk produced by the offspring of a cloned cow and the Swiss government admitted that several hundred of its cattle were second or third generation clone descendants Wow that explains to two-headed ones That's explains the two headed people in European Parliament That's what it explains So, um... So I didn't know this at all that they were drinking cloned milk. Yep! Oh yeah? Let's just drink water And th- right Yeah You know what? I like water Best part of waking up Is fluoride in my cup That's right A nice little cup of fluoridated water and by the way have some aspartame chewing gum Freshens your breath All summer long it'll make you feel really good and you don't get addicted to it at all and your kids are doing it

2:16:18 You were over the top on that one. Yeah, yeah well I already busted my gut doing it the first time so you know that was the best So we're gonna try and do a show on Thursday will be coming to you from Gitmo nation Dutch Antilles Hopefully the bandwidth will Will be sufficient should we not be able to pull it off? Then we'll try doing without the stream if we can't do without the stream then we do have an evergreen show Yeah, the best of the early days. But I'm fully expecting to have a show... ...I just want to say that there will be something played. There will be something but we will not disappoint and then of course next Sunday We'll have a show at our regularly scheduled time so Coming to you from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West The People's Republic of Southern California. Yay! I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry

2:17:16 and from Northern Silicon Valley. And the sun actually is coming out a little earlier today, so it might be hot! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk to you with any luck on Thursday right here on NO Agenda