Episode 204 · Sunday, 30 May 2010

Oil Spill Déjà vu

A look back at the 1979 Ixtoc I disaster reveals a familiar script for the Deepwater Horizon crisis while geopolitical unrest in Jamaica masks a struggle for oil.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 204

About this episode

Rachel Maddow and NBC archival footage reveal a startling parallel between the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster and the 1979 Ixtoc I blowout. This historical comparison suggests the oil industry relies on a decades-old playbook for managing environmental catastrophes and manipulating market prices rather than advancing safety technology. The crisis continues to dominate the cultural landscape as Glenn Beck faces backlash for mocking Malia Obama’s questions regarding the BP spill.

International tensions rise as the hunt for Christopher "Dudus" Coke in Kingston, Jamaica, appears to serve as a cover for securing offshore oil reserves following new seismic data. In Europe, Germany secures a Eurovision victory with Lena Meyer-Landrut’s "Satellite" amid a debt crisis that has the Netherlands questioning Greek retirement ages and the legality of EU bailouts. Meanwhile, reports from Foxconn factories in China challenge the media narrative of an "iPhone suicide factory," noting that the employee suicide rate remains below the Chinese national average despite pressure from partners like Apple and Dell.

Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York, navigates a bribery scandal with a high-profile Oprah Winfrey interview while rumors swirl of a potential role on Donald Trump’s The Apprentice. A London urban fox makes headlines for a daring apartment break-in to steal an expensive shoe, illustrating the unintended consequences of the UK fox hunting ban. The episode concludes with a look at Joe Biden’s Naval Academy address and his controversial framing of Brussels as the capital of the free world.


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CHAPTER 01 / 25 Discussion

June Proclamations, LGBT Pride and Caribbean American Heritage Month

President Barack Obama issued multiple proclamations designating June 2010 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month, Caribbean American Heritage Month, and African-American Music Appreciation Month. The hosts question the logistical feasibility of assigning four distinct themes to a single month. There is specific commentary on the timing of Caribbean American Heritage Month in relation to ongoing issues in Haiti and Jamaica.

barack obama· lgbt pride month· caribbean american heritage month· african-american music appreciation month· presidential proclamations

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's May 30th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 204 This is no agenda Summer has arrived and the skies are chemtrail free. And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California, Gitmo Nation West In The Morning I'm Adam Curry What's a chemtrail? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Oh, please... Please... You mean a contrail like condensation? No, chemtrail. Okay? Chemtrail that's the stuff that they're spraying into the atmosphere to make us sick. Chemtrail. All right be denialist if you must

00:59 Anyway in the morning to you in the morning to you and everybody listening. Did you get my clips? Yes, I did did you tweet? Did you did you uh did you tweet get both batches of yes? I did did you tweet no You didn't we did you I did my job Let me take tweeting as we speak let me tweet too John while you're doing that may I realize that this is May 30th And the next time we do the show will be into the month of June, so I need to take advantage... ...of the timing. To be the first to wish you—take a deep breath here—a happy Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Caribbean American Heritage National Ocean African-American Music Appreciation Month! Oh well thank you very much! I was waiting for somebody say something How is this possible? I'm reading through the presidential actions as I often do on a Saturday night

01:54 And the president has proclaimed this month four different months. It's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Month. How does that work? They're trying to dimi- they're trying to uh... Screw with June Marginalize the good part of it But seriously I thought a month was a month like if it's like Black History Month it can't be something else month can it That's what I always thought, but you know there are only 12 months out of the year. They've done all the weeks too they do a certain kind of week but you can't like marginalize something by making it a week...I don't know It's who cares? It's bogus! I love the Caribbean American Heritage Month as we screw Haiti and Jamaica your next! YAY!!! Yeah And African- I just tweeted African American Music Appreciation Month

CHAPTER 02 / 25 Discussion

Executive Producer Sir R. Daniels, Kate's Foundation Sunscreen PSA

Sir R. Daniels achieved the status of "double knight" by donating $700 to the program, requesting a public service announcement for Kate's Foundation. The foundation provides free sunscreen to the public through its website. Additionally, Associate Executive Producer Michael Gubo, a commercial and television director with credits on CSI, is recognized for his contribution.

sir r. daniels· katesfoundation.org· sunscreen· michael gubo· television directors

02:48 When we have like a hillbilly redneck music month. They may have that, you don't know? Well it should've been... It would've been perfect if that was also June! They must have some kind of rule like you can't have two music appreciation month proclamations in the same month? Well at least for May for us its double night month We got a couple producers I want to mention Oh this sounds promising Sir, R. Daniels, already in Night Once is our executive producer and he gave us $700 to become a double knight

03:30 I believe he had a message to go with that, didn't he? Yeah. He says once today's he's a sunscreen junkie and he wants us to run a PSA for him as he enters the summer season here in New Jersey if we could tell folks to contact us at www katesfoundation org That's Kate's foundation spelled with a K of dot-org and reference in the morning And he'll send out or the group will send out some free sunscreen for you all That's cool. Another bonus for listeners. Yes, courtesy of the No Agenda show well Sir R Daniels is he's really quite a philanthropic knight isn't he? yes for good reason Well that's awesome thank you sir Daniels that's very cool so he completed his second knighthood does that mean he's a viscount or... A viscount

04:23 I like this count better because it sounds like we haven't decided on a proper name for the double nights. Yeah, I think we need to you know, I think it's double night It seems to work okay And then we have an associate executive producer Michael Gubo I'm hoping i pronounced that right. Gubo? Juboe? It could be Jubeau, but...I'm sure everyone calls him Gubo Hey, Gubo! Get your ass over here! That's E-A-U-X of course He gave us $222.20, $111 each for hookers and blows style cartoon network is planning a major bullying campaign

05:06 And he gave us a link which we'll put in the show notes. I hope The Cartoon Network is gonna bully me no, they're gonna They're gonna probably have an oh do I think what he's referring to there's going to be a bunch of anti-bullying cartoons Hold on. I'm glad you mentioned that so I can put that in the show notes What does it Emma? shoot online comm He's a commercial director, so this came across my bow he says. Interesting stuff keep up the good work love the show I'd be nice to have a producing rather than directing credit for once which you will not have. I wonder what he produces?

05:43 Don't know probably you know he directs. He's a director one of those guys director One of those nut balls in the control room I don't if you ever seen these guys yeah, they're there They're tuned into some other dimension to do that I don't have people if they ever get a chance to go to a TV show or studio You gotta see how these directors operate this is just I don't know it has been more impressed by the directors assistant because uh... the or the assistant director should say this is a director actually has to be about five to ten seconds ahead of everybody else because the assistant director queues the cameras so okay uh... you know in your camera three you've gotta go over to this spot start your move and then the directors as ok take every so yeah i think you know died agreed with that except for the fact that most studios have looked at today don't have the assistant director in the director does that too

06:33 Hmm. Well, I'm talking to big shows you know like That's the guy i'm talking about well i'm talking about the really really big shows um well for instance john You know it is become somewhat of a tradition on this program in our incredible two and a half year history to uh Briefly highlight the winner of the eurovision song contest but before you do that one still mention mike's website www mic g dot tv MikeG.TV, let me take a look right now and see what Mike does. Mike G dot TV Let's see what he has been producing CSI... Director CSI MCSI Fabulous Beekman boys? Okay well he is not the tv type director He is doing real directing It's like movie style directing Like in a real gig He doesn't have to be quite as nuts Oh okay

CHAPTER 03 / 25 Discussion

Eurovision Song Contest 2010, Germany Victory with Lena Meyer-Landrut

Germany won the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest held in Oslo, Norway (following Russia's previous win) with the song "Satellite" performed by Lena. The production featured massive stage sets and advanced camera technology. Speculation suggests Germany's victory was influenced by geopolitical factors and the European debt crisis, as other nations look to Germany for financial stability.

eurovision song contest· lena meyer-landrut· denmark· russia· satellite

07:40 Let me, uh... So for a while there it looked like the country of Denmark was going to win the Eurovision Song Contest. Now for those who have never heard of this- We have to go over this every year! No, there's not two Americans even know what we're talking about Yeah I think it's a cultural thing for you and I. We always discuss this come on It's a big deal All of the Eurovision participates. It's huge. It was held in Russia this year because Russia won last years Remember the guy with all the feathers? So this is a crazy thing that's been going on for like ever since television began I think and 1938 Eurovision contest number one, and we've been corrected so many times on this It's not just European countries as it seems like almost anybody can jump in as long as they're part of the euro vision broadcasting consortium cabal And if you don't show this in the u.s.. What do you think?

08:38 You know that's a good question. Do you think the national treasure would show it? They might have, I think they don't show it because its predominantly really bad It's just like bad television Although I think we should show it because then we'd be like...you know..I'll take the commercials If if had to watch that I'd hang myself So every country has their national song contest Which is like American Idol only without The Honesty And then they send their winners to the country where it will be done this year. And that is usually the country that won the previous year and so everyone was... The reason why I even remembered is because I kept getting all these Twitters saying, hey Adam Curry's gonna win the Eurovision Song Contest! I'm like what? You look at this guy from Denmark and yeah he looked like me 20 years ago maybe

09:32 Which is kind of an insult actually. So he came in I think third with Denmark, but Germany won and here's the winning song John just a little bit of Lena with Satellite Oh by the way they have to do the performances in English which of course is tough when you're from Germany Wait for the hook John! You'll love it

10:12 This is terrible. Here it comes! Like a satellite, I'm in orbit all around you So basically it's Lily Allen bad. This is really terrible But the set is amazing It's like five football fields and they've got jibs and booms and steadicams And amazing lights and all kinds of super effects. Sounds like we're getting some singers

10:53 Alright, anyway. And why do they have to do it in English? Yeah that- because it was like some kind of competitive edge or something I think they can...I don't know what the rules The rules change all the time cause you know It's like a political thing But I think Germany won Cause and you know Germany won because everyone is so freaking happy They're bailing their asses out Like hey let's vote for Germany So they can yeah Let's vote for Germany so that they can pay our bills I think that's what going on there Anyway, thank you very much sir R. Daniels for becoming the executive producer of this episode and Michael Goubeau I'm still thinking it's Jubeau that sounds much better for a director who was our issue ball is your director especially if he's doing on the set

11:40 He's our associate executive producer. Well, you guys probably know the drill please feel free to put this on your resume as you are the official producers of episode 204 of The No Agenda Show and for the rest of ya well You can always help us by going out doing this Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Oh and there's more where that came from Order! We might as well say it together Shut up, Steve Nice little addition there John Maybe you bow can get me that bit part. I'm angling for yeah in The fabulous Beekman boys, you'd fit right into that show He's also done a Doritos clip spot he's done Home and Garden TV. Hey doesn't do yes the good work with Doritos It gets around cool

CHAPTER 04 / 25 Discussion

Glenn Beck, Malia Obama Oil Spill Comment Controversy

Media Matters denounced radio host Glenn Beck for a satirical segment involving President Obama’s daughter, Malia. The controversy centered on Beck mocking a story Obama told about Malia asking if he had "plugged the hole" yet regarding the BP oil spill. While Beck eventually apologized, he maintained that the President was using his children as political props to distract from the ecological disaster.

glenn beck· malia obama· media matters· barack obama· deepwater horizon

12:46 So I got a lot of real news and other kinds of strange clips for this week or for the show. It's just actually Strange goings-on Well you do call the shots then mr.. Director would you like to go straight into it? well, I would like to start off with the one that seems to be getting the most attention amongst the political arena which is, and by the way I got a whopper in here you're gonna get the biggest kick out of. Okay. And we're in the real news? I think it'll catch off guard because I don't think you caught this one okay but meanwhile there is this ridiculous situation with Glenn Beck because apparently and now if you go to Media Matters you find there's a press release that they put on their main page A Press Release from Media Matters about Media Matters What is Media Matters? And the press release says

13:42 Media Matters denounces Glenn Beck for smearing Obama's daughter. So if you go online, I'm looking at it right now. By the way update update Glenn Beck apologizes but his apology is incomplete Right going back apologies denounced the Glenn Beck apology overman seat of orc denounces the apology Obermann names back worst person oh Now you better stay indoors

14:21 Alright, what's going on? Alright so play the Obama clip and this is what's going on. Uh... What's it labeled? What's it labeled? Obama Clip Well there's nothing called Obamaclip It's probably Glenn Beck 1 Oh yeah that one I've got My job right now is just to make sure that everybody in the Gulf understands This is what I wake up too in the morning And this is when I go to bed at night Wait wait stop it So let's back up and say it again. I have this clip because this is about Louisiana, about the oil spill Yeah but wait if you listen to what he says my job is to make sure everybody in Louisiana knows that I wake up Well that's important It's good to know Let me hear that again My job right now is just to make sure that everybody in the Gulf understands This is what I wake up too in the morning

15:18 And this is what I go to bed at night thinking about. That's his job? Yeah, that was a very big job John! I don't want you to downplay that He's thinking about it His job is that he wants everyone to know that he's thinking about it Alright can I continue? Alright yeah finish that wasn't the point No and I'm sure it isn't but nice point anyway The spill...and its not just me by the way And when I woke up this morning, and I'm shaving and Malia knocks on my bathroom door and she peeks in her head. She says Daddy that's a huge one! Did you plug the hole yet daddy? Because i think everybody understands that when we are fouling the earth like this it has concrete implications not just for this generation but for future generations Wow

16:17 Yeah, yeah. Good one. So now Beck goes on his radio show where he's basically a goofball it's kind of like a... You thought the TV show was unwatchable The radio show is absolutely unwatchable, but it's uh... Yeah the radio show is unwatchable. I actually enjoy the radio show because there was a kind of free form they're developing content for the TV show It's got two of his writers and one of them pretty funny And ah..the other one will write in to note if he ever hears this By the way the chat room was going crazy when

16:55 When Malia said, Daddy did you plug the hole yet? And the chat room goes yeah that's what she said. I mean you guys are bad. Chat rooms should be ashamed of themselves anyways so and all hell breaks loose because Beck decides to go into do some schtick he is a comedian. So he tries to be funny and i think it actually kind amusing but he rides it to death here are the headlines that come out Glenn Beck, Malia plug the hole Obama daughter media. Oh I'm sorry that's not a good headline Obama's daughter asked did you plug the hole yet daddy? It's not a good one. Glenn Beck smears Obama's 11 year old daughter That's one of their headlines What do we say then? Do we get to hear this? Glenn Beck hits new low mocks Obama's daughter and that was...I don't know where they ran but Glenn Beck attacks Obama's daughter he attacks her!

17:48 uh... anyway goes on and i was always kind of things in beck is you know it now with the center of attention i have the back clip don't play it he can't do that yet but but but but but but jenny no didn't know anything and you're your credit card and then i think they did and country how to find him If you've plucked that whore's head... Honey? Not yet. Why not, Daddy? What, Daddy?! Not time yet honey! I haven't done enough damage. Daddy? Not enough damage yet honey. Daddy? Yeah? Why do ya hate black people so much? The part white honey. The what? What? The what? What'd you say? Excuse me?

18:48 At this point it's going off the rails, right? Oh it has been off the rails from the get-go because he couldn't resist continuing to bit. It actually goes another two minutes after I stopped it. Alright let's continue... This is such a ridiculous thing that his daughter... How old is his daughter? Like 13? Well one of them's I think 13, one's 11 or something. Did you plug the hole yet daddy? Is that their- That's the level of their education! That they're coming to... They're coming to Daddy and saying, Daddy did you plug the hole yet? Plugged the hole Yes, I was doing some deep sea diving yesterday. Daddy? Yeah honey, I... Why do you still let the polar bears die?

19:43 Daddy! Now it's not funny to me anymore. Well, you know the point is though that what he was really making... The point that he was trying to make although he couldn't stop doing the bit He could have killed it right before he went into the polar bear stuff. Yeah, polar bears when it really went wrong yeah? Yeah well he just enjoyed doing that voice apparently which he must have developed on the spot and he... Yeah, it's really talented pure talent there No, I just like doing it. And so he was making...he was mocking Obama for dreaming up this bogus story that nobody can possibly believe that his daughter came in. She's 11 or 12!

20:21 old enough to... she's not an idiot and so she wouldn't come in to say something stupid like that. It just doesn't make any sense. I agree, yeah i agree And if you're gonna put that into your televised speech then it can expect to..you know then its no longer off bounds out of bounds I think I agree! Meanwhile they jumped all over for smearing the girl please Did anybody jump all over the people that always portrayed the two Bush daughters as a couple of drunks in a bar? No. Yeah, no I caught that and of course I had the clip because it- uh...I didn't know about this Beck thing um but he does make a point when he says yeah there's not enough damage yet you know my view on the oil cabal is exactly what is intended

CHAPTER 05 / 25 Discussion

Rachel Maddow, 1979 Ixtoc I Oil Spill Comparison

Rachel Maddow aired archival NBC footage from June 1979 showing a near-identical scenario to the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster. In 1979, the Ixtoc I well blew out in the Gulf of Mexico while the Trans-Alaska Pipeline was simultaneously restricted due to leaks. The comparison suggests the oil industry is following an old playbook for managing disasters and manipulating market prices rather than improving safety technology.

rachel maddow· ixtoc i oil spill· bp oil spill· gulf of mexico· trans-alaska pipeline

21:11 The whole point is to get the price of oil zooming back up in about six months. That's what this all, that's what this is all about and BP they own the president They own him literally how many like 100 million dollars? I spent on him. I don't know something like that There's a lot it's a lot of money You know can I only have really one clip for this show? Well, I made up for lost time Yeah, but it's and it's and it's double weird because I'm actually It's so hard for me to say this. It is a clip of My favorite Rachel Maddow And she actually dug something up that was amazing! It was really really really good! And I could not believe that she did well...I can because of course She analyzes it in completely the wrong way But just bear in mind

22:08 that my thesis is that the oil cabal creates these incredible disasters and then the inventories go down, they're hiding their oil and then the price skyrockets. And they pop out there at the oil that they bought for half the price and then they make double the profits. It goes on and on it's been going on for a hundred years So now taking into account that the president calls this the worst disaster ever, ecological disaster. On Meet The Press last week it was worse than 9-11 according to Bob Woodward. Worse than 9-11 because that just came and went but this is going to stay forever. John I'm surprised you don't remember that this exact scenario happened 30 years ago do you recall that?

22:57 What was it exactly the same not only because you know, the the BP well It's not labeled BP but the the Alaskan Pipeline was shut down to like 20% capacity because of leaks and all kinds of crap going on there simultaneously while the trans-ocean oil rig is partially capped or you know it's still spilling whatever so anyway Rachel Maddow has it of course she's getting from the NBC archives and its handed to her but I've got to give a props for this. Today in Alaska crude oil production was all but stopped on them on the North Slope, oil companies operating there were told to cut

23:32 their production by more than 80 percent after thousands of barrels of crude oil spilled from the Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline. The 800 mile Trans Alaska oil pipeline, at least for right now is shut down. That spill in Alaska is happening of course in the shadow of a much larger spill in the Gulf of Mexico And uh, actually... Alright so this is what I hate when she does that. But now watch what she does this will blow you away. I think we should probably just have me stop doing this now and let the gravitas white guy anchor do this part So now she's showing footage from 30 years ago NBC

24:09 In Alaska, the pipeline has been repaired. Oil is expected to flow again today but that crack that developed Sunday allowed 1500 barrels of crude oil to escape 700 barrels recovered and in the Gulf of Mexico oil workers are trying to handle a much larger oil spill A burning offshore oil well is dumping 30 thousand barrels of crude each day into the gulf So yeah, that was from 1979. June 13th, 1979 the NBC News anchor reporting on a pipeline spill in Alaska on the same day an oil well was leaking out of control and burning in the Gulf of Mexico 31 years ago In June 1979 an oil well called The Ix blew out in the Gulf of Mexico It started spewing thousands of barrels of crude oil into the gulf every day

24:57 And it's not just the disaster itself that should sound familiar to you, it is also the techniques they were using at the time to try and contain this spill. Airplanes are to be used to drop chemicals on the oil, but there is a shortage of aviation fuel down there. Workers are also putting up a mile-long boom they're putting it into place or trying to contain the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico Chemical dispersants so anyways so she goes on for a good 20 minutes It's no I'm sorry 10 minutes it is exactly the same. Sounds like a playbook! The only difference is that went on for nine months, nine months they couldn't plug the hole. This is the cone... the top kill everything is exactly the same and I'm like I'm blown away because of course she's sitting there going like well in 30 years we haven't developed any technology to stop this and I'm like they took the same playbook they did it over

25:52 it over again how stupid are we they literally did the same thing again. It blew me away! The same little side story about the pipeline everything exactly this is like these guys went here's the meeting in Zouk John Get Pincus Green over here. Hey, what are we gonna do man? We gotta get the price up You know what worked good in 79? Yeah, let's do this What that's how they talk that's how they talk pink is green who was pardoned by President Clinton his only controversial pardon so yeah hardly his only Controversial pardon. What was the other one then Mark rich?

26:39 I'm sorry, Mark Rich. Yeah both those guys they're both in Zug now and they're both back in the oil cabal after trading illegally with Iran It's two hands of the same guy Mark Rich pink is green Same guys! I think there are a couple other screwy... There were a couple drug dealers too that were... Oh yeah well of course throw a couple of those in But anyway this is so brazen Because Rachel Maddow didn't wake up and go like, oh I remember this happened in 79. You know this is like someone... Yeah and i love her take on it though instead of seeing it as a playbook item something to sucker the public she sees it as an indictment of the industry for failing to improve its practices It's exactly the same! Like wow these guys and then... I truly believe that they call up like Jeffrey Immelt hey man

27:31 How do you like it? Hey, you know what why don't have Maddo like tell everyone this story show the footage we want to see it again. Let's put them side by side Can you do a like one of those two screen pains so we see like the smoke from then and the smoke from now That's cool man Do that absolutely outrageous they're so brazen they just come out and just say it hey We're doing it again And no one sees it No one sees it It's just like well, we see it Paul T actually sent me this and actually it's kind of a Paul T. Did he's the one who turned you on to him? I mean how did you spot it? You don't watch Rachel Maddow Don't think so No Paul T sent it to me And then he's like, you know She he actually drew the wrong conclusion as well and then I and I fired him an email back I said dude, it's a repeat they're doing the same thing Then he freaks out he starting to do some research He's finding graphs he seeing oh my god

28:21 Oscillation he's charted this back to like a hundred years and he's showing the same thing happening every 20 to 30 years And that price of oil, and he's doing now. He's like mr.. Excel wizard. He's gone for gun all free It reminds me of the story An agent friend of mine who? Actually used to work with very famous guy He sells pretty much all the big publishers, all the great junk science books. And most of them never pay out he just oversells everything and so he gets...and he believes that if he doesn't get more money on the advance than the book ever pays out If he doesn't do that then he's not doing his job

29:02 And I one time confronted him with, well what happens after you've suckered these guys into selling this? How do you do it again. Yeah. He says don't worry about it because there's so much turnover in the business and its always a new guy coming along and they didn't know anything that happened in the past So the thing that gets me about this Maddo clip though is that this happened 30 years ago according to reports from then they couldn't stop for 9 months So, first of all how can this ever be the largest ecological disaster? And was the Gulf not destroyed forever after it happened then. I mean did the gulf like die? Did everything end? Did the world come to an end what happened you don't even remember it! Of course not so that's my question and of course Rachel Maddow doesn't ask this question

29:47 You'd think, because I'm hearing this is going to be for centuries. For generations and i'm willing to believe it doesn't look good we got Jacques Cousteau Jr going down with ABC's Sam Champion in hazmat suits swimming underneath the... And its the same thing they put disbursement on it They did everything except they couldn't lock it down and the thing kept bleeding for nine months So did that destroy the Gulf or what happened? I mean was there permanent damage, please someone answer me. We're living in a dream. I'd like to know! Everyone is dead That's right we're not really here Well talking about cyclical things

CHAPTER 06 / 25 Discussion

Sarah Ferguson, Oprah Winfrey Interview and Donald Trump Rumors

Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York, scheduled a high-profile interview with Oprah Winfrey following a bribery scandal orchestrated by News of the World. Reports indicate Ferguson may be seeking a role on Donald Trump’s reality show, The Apprentice. The discussion frames the scandal as a calculated move to generate publicity and income for the Duchess.

sarah ferguson· oprah winfrey· donald trump· the apprentice· news of the world

30:27 uh... and i think that's what that is a great find the paul t did their although i have to do i'm always disappointed when people don't see these things for what they are uh... you know they because he there is a litany aminita resistance works with people buy into this story but i haven't might be only thing i had them like compete with that because yes because i don't think you saw this one coming but i've been baffled by the uh... by the fergie story that you brought up. Okay? And the fact that News of the World would, you know even do something like this and what was the point now all of a sudden she's going to be on Oprah and there seems to be like some publicity thing going on... Oh don't tell me! Don't tell me she has a TV show coming out if you go

31:12 You go to Clips2, play Real News Insider on Fergie and then right at some point it's gonna dawn on you what's really going on. Oh crap okay! That's a head. But right now there are Sarah Ferguson sits down with Oprah after the Duchess' bribery scandal this just in... The worldwide exclusive Fergie On The Record Her first interview Oprah sits down with the Duchess of York After the royal scandal Oprah with Fergie Tuesday, Lady O with a sneak peek on her show today. I'm asking the questions that we're all wondering about why did she do it? Her financial challenges where does she go from here

31:56 And Pop Eater's Rob Shooter says we might be seeing more of Fergie, this time with The Donald. Donald is discussing a role for Sarah on his hit show The Apprentice It's unclear what the role Sarah will play on The Apprentice will be She might be on it as a celebrity she might be on it as a judge Also just in... new photo Okay Huh? Topper?! Oh yeah, you win. The Donald... the guy is awesome isn't he? He's so amazing! Well he has always been a promotionally oriented person. Promotes himself as this billionaire and genius but the fact is that he's a PT Barnum

32:38 And as soon as he mentions his name, it's like, oh. People don't know who P.T Barnum was and he was actually an American icon He is the... I would say arguably the first... He is the guy who invented PR! Uh..and maybe you could give us a brief history because I think its interesting. Well I think he invented publicity more than PR Public relations is a little more complicated Yeah but he would literally take freaky people and he would feel and uh... yet that the c of course is the originator of p t barman barnum in bailey a circus right he was a circus promoter and he had all kinds of you get all kinds of stuff museums are all kinds of crazy things but he was one of these guys the last time we've seen again like that there's a guy who used to be in san francisco night racking roseanne bloom a camera was named but it was extremely famous for for doing this sort of outrageous uh...

33:23 promotional publicity stunts and the absolute best one he ever did which is a classic in San Francisco Bay Area. He took Carol Doda, the famous stripper the first one who popularized fake breasts got her in a car Got her to take her clothes off in the car got her out of the car on the Golden Gate Bridge and then handcuffed Her to the bridge and took off That's what Donald should do to Fergie That would rock So this is like I'm thinking wow, I mean this makes did now it falls into place because I couldn't see what is the point of? This investigation of this woman once you said that this is very common amongst these people to be taking some money But they call it a bribe but she's not a government official. How can it be a bribe no It's just pocket money fee yeah exactly it's a fee

CHAPTER 07 / 25 Discussion

London Urban Fox Problem, Stolen Shoe Anecdote

A personal anecdote describes an urban fox entering a mezzanine-level apartment in London and stealing an expensive shoe. The incident highlights the increasing boldness of foxes in the UK following the ban on fox hunting. There is speculation that media outlets like News of the World will eventually report on more dangerous interactions between foxes and humans.

london· foxes· fox hunting· news of the world· urban wildlife

34:17 Exactly. Oh my goodness, yeah that's a good one you got me and I thought it was gonna be told when you didn't catch that because it hasn't caught on yet no I Just have a slight human interest story remember in fact at the very beginning of our show we talked about Gitmo Nation East banning the practice of fox hunting Yeah, and we both said that maybe wasn't such a good idea Those poor dogs. Yeah well they gonna do well so Christina lives in London she lives Not far from oh yeah this box is all over town I understand Well so she's in her little small apartment on not the ground floor But it's kind of like that mezzanine level where you walk up steps

35:00 And she has a kitchen in the back and she has a roommate. And they have couple steps down from the kitchen to her little backyard, but it's not really a backyard just kind of fenced-in enclosure and that's at the back all these houses along one of these typical English streets. It's nice weather so they had the door open on the hook you know? So it doesn't slam open or shut. They're watching movie And they hear something, throughout the movie they hear something kind of in the house but it doesn't really register. And then they here like this pushing and this noise and there's four of them and get kinda alarmed... ...and turn around just in time to see a huge fox walk out her room with a shoe in its mouth! One of her expensive pumps! And runs out the back door! The fox stole a shoe!!

35:54 Something to chew on, it's like a chew stick for a fox. But I mean... A fox! A fo- A fox to come into the house!! Yeah. I mean, this is not good! This is why they shoot them Well no but they're not allowed to anymore They banned it Foxes all over the place So Mickey made a pretty good comment She said you know No one's gonna do anything about this until a fox eats someone's baby Like the dingo And I said You know what? You can almost wait for You can almost wait for The fox ate my baby story In News of the World Of course Yeah. I was just blown away, I'm just flabbergasted and you know foxes are very skittish animals they do not like human beings they run away but you know first for the Fox to come into the house and then what's he doing with a damn shoe that doesn't make sense You know it's like a chew stick for a fox A fashionable fox He'd be chewing on it having time of his life Anyway... Oh! Mono mono mon You want to play? I recorded a bunch of different summaries

CHAPTER 08 / 25 Discussion

Jamaica State of Emergency, Christopher "Dudus" Coke and Oil Interests

The 2010 unrest in Kingston, Jamaica, officially attributed to the hunt for gang leader Christopher "Dudus" Coke, is characterized as a cover for securing offshore oil interests. A timeline of events shows recent debt restructuring with the IMF and new seismic data indicating significant oil reserves near Jamaica and Cuba. The deployment of American predator drones and military personnel suggests a strategic takeover of the region's natural resources.

jamaica· christopher dudus coke· kingston· imf· offshore oil

36:59 Uh, for- from these different shows. Is this still real news? Cause I'm... Yeah but I think uh we can move on and just play the Jesse James clip of the week. I don't wanna play new zzzz... No let's just play Jesse James clip of the week. Okay. Sonny's age I was when my dad broke my arm! That's the Jesse James clip of the week Thank you Jeff if your listening to me don't make a jingle for that It's not necessary No, I would like to talk briefly about the Jamaican earthquake. Yeah what about it? Did you hear about it? No That's because there wasn't one Oh your predicting one? Nope they will not need to turn on the earthquake machine onto Jamaica Because they have all hell breaking loose there Yes they do and

37:51 one of my daily source code listeners, the Jamaican in New York actually pointed this out to me. Yeah all hell breaking loose is the story we're being given which of course is about this guy, this huge gang leader in Kingston. Dramatized story sounds good. Yes Dudas is his name and actually Christopher Dudas Coke you know he's the big coke dealer and he's running Shantytown, he's running Kingston oh and we have martial law being called out, national emergency and everything is all horrible. Everything's gone wrong." Well it turns out this is all about oil. Unbelievable what is happening so instead of like Haiti turning on the earthquake machine to take over and build huge refineries and build a beautiful resort

38:44 We now have troops on the ground, American troops and predator drones patrolling the area. Yes! Predator drones are patrolling... No this is not like an... That's what the drone sounds like. Oh okay it's your drone sound So I actually have the timeline here, which is and all these links are in the show notes. Now you know I have a deep love for Jamaica. I've been there 15-16 times. I've done documentaries so heres the timeline October 2008 Cuba announces reserves are now double previous estimates of course if you stand on the mountaintop at the Blue Mountains in Jamaica you can see Cuba it's only like 50 miles

39:27 January 2010, of course we get the earthquake in Haiti and the American military is built up in the Caribbean. There are now five ships off the south coast of Jamaica February 2010, Jamaica signs and here it comes a 1.27 billion dollar debt restructuring agreement with the IMF So you know what that means? Our boys! Yeah the IMF and the way that usually works is yeah... You take this money and when we know you can't pay it back will own you March 2010, Jamaican Minister of Mining and Energy presents the quote second formal licensing round 2010 seminars in London with new seismic data and bid procedures to the Geological Society of England. So that's basically this sale say hey you know what turns out we got some oil down here I mean if it's off Cuba and were able to drill down 5,000 feet to go 35,000 feet like we're doing in the Gulf then I'm sure its off Jamaica as well

40:26 April 2010, Jamaican minister... I'm sorry. April 20th of course we have the oil rig explosion in the Gulf and remember I said that were going to see all kinds of crap happening in the Caribbean because they know it's there? 2010 of April American pressure on Jamaican government over extradition of Dudus escalates to the red zone May 22nd, American military personnel landing in Manly International in Kingston. This is now the drones are now... this has been a week! The drones are flying around on the 23rd state of emergency declared by prime- by the Prime Minister of Jamaica may 25th American Congresswoman uh what's her name again she was born in Jamaica calls for the US State Department to intervene and stop the violence in Kingston this is a complete incomplete takeover of Jamaica

41:15 and you watch what's going to happen. We'll need more and more troops to stop this horrible drug dealer, Dudas. I love the name too, Dudas. Christopher Dudas Coke! And meanwhile this is all about the oil that is all around the Caribbean uh... man i would even take it as far to say that you know now they've got this dis really deep drilling technique kind of under control all right so purposely or not a didn't work out uh... with transition for her guys plant but of course now of course in a due to more drills andy they can stop the oil from leaking so they're gonna have two more holes are going to drill from tomorrow

41:59 platforms down into the hole in the Gulf of Mexico on either side actually, from some distance. And then they're going to drill down another mile and another whatever how many thousand feet that are underneath the crust? Then they're gonna take the pressure off the other hole so instead of having one hole that they had... Let's drill some more! So they'll be able to pump, oh we gotta take the pressure off so they're gonna pump the crap out of it or whatever. They literally are probably going to pull out twice as much oil as they did before the disaster And so of course the reports and this is the way it's supposed to work from CNN is Oh gas prices lower this Memorial Day drive all you want because the price at the pump are going lower lower lower lower and then even says in this article until of course inventories change Because this is the trick

42:53 You know, it's like then the in because they did you know that's not a continuous supply and demand. There's a cut off inventories then we'll have no more oil. Yeah well they also got to get some of this stuff out of circulation so they want it here's what here's the way I would do it. They've already built up put a lot of oil and tankers and tanks and tank farms but The prices haven't gone the right way, so what you want to do is pull as much of it off the market by having people use it. Blow it out! Memorial Days! Drink all you can! Draw victory on Memorial Day but summer's still ahead and summer's where there are three months of driving.

43:30 So by the probably by July 1st, that price I'd be a good bet to take. Check out the pump price on Monday of gasoline and i would assure you that the pump price will be higher on uh... july first No I don't doubt it and uh... you know i think we're gonna be up near eighteen. They are doing so much work right now its gotta be moving towards 100 by December January It's just got to be It's the cycle. It just over and over again, it really saddens me And of course no one is talking about what is really happening in Jamaica. It's all about some bogus... Look, Jamaica doesn't grow coke okay? It comes from Colombia, its a supply route Like you know like the CIA I'm sure is involved Its not like they don't know about this but now they have five ships off the coast of Jamaica Predator drones flying around Please! Please brother

44:24 And they're gonna destroy that beautiful island. Just destroy it. Although I'm sure you can still party nice and safe on the north side of Montego Bay Let's see if Clinton goes there, then there will at least be some nice hotels Well that is already beautiful in Montego Bay on the north side of Jamaica It is paradise They are not going to change that No of course not but I have stated Bob Pittman house there Its beautiful And there is nothing wrong with their As long as you stay on the resort Don't stray from the gates But no, I mean it's just sad because Jamaica which has been always economically suppressed. Basically they're a call center island at this point if only

45:12 they could have control of their own natural resources, you know. They could be rich again and... You can't have that! I know you can but it's the one can dream No no there's the oil all the oil in the world belongs to the oil companies It doesn't belong any sovereign state Yeah. Otherwise, you know what we I've always thought of? You know the only place that's kind of pulled it off is Alaska. They kinda own part of it right yeah they own part of in the gouges the oil companies as best they can. They're still not doing a perfect job California We wouldn't have a debt crisis. We'd be on easy street if we owned our California If we were get if the state owned all the oil and gas reserves that are in California

CHAPTER 09 / 25 Discussion

European Debt Crisis, Greek Retirement and Retsina Wine

The European Union's bailout of Greece faces legal hurdles under the Lisbon Treaty, which technically prohibits such financial rescues. Public resentment is growing in countries like the Netherlands over Greek retirement ages and fiscal management. The segment transitions into a discussion of Retsina, a traditional Greek wine flavored with pine resin, which is described as an acquired and often unpleasant taste.

greece· lisbon treaty· imf· bailout· retsina

45:51 But no, we not only don't get any of the benefits of the California oil and gas reserves but We usually pay more for gasoline in California than just about any other state in the country. Yeah It's it's a scandal dad. You know, it's not getting much better Again what do we have? The highest income tax 10% in California? Yes at 10 percent on top of whatever else you're paying I betcha that's gonna go even higher Well, I don't understand why they can't. We're not even close to the ratios that Greece has and Greece is like bringing down the EU so there's something wrong with this picture. You know I spoke to Taxi Eric yesterday you know the guy who almost killed you? Yeah. Because he's like a cab driver so he's man on the street right he's got his ear to people. So what's going on man what's the deal with Geert Wilders because elections are coming up June 9

46:46 And he said and he just forget that. He just went off on Greece like I can't believe these motherfuckers You know they retire at 48 no, I've got to work until I'm 67 That's two more years we're sending him five Billy. I can't believe this screw done money It's your soul war he's ready. He's ready to go to war the guy is like got his pickaxe out he's like and I said dude that just grease wait until you have to bail out Portugal Spain he's like bro better not happen i'm driving my car whatever it better not happened. You know because this is exactly the way people see it? I have a feeling though and there's some predictions that this bailout won't happen, first of all the whole concept of the bailout is illegal according to what you call the lesbian treaty

47:35 The Lisbon Treaty specifically does not allow for that to take place. And so now there's now talk of the secret exit clauses that will essentially blow all of this up, one is the fact that they would have to ratify a change to the treaty which according to the treaty cannot be changed and the second one which is maybe more interesting In this agreement for this trillion dollar bailout, which you know I think you and I agree has to be closer to ten If a country cannot find the funding because of course no one has this everyone's broke right? No one has this cash laying around so they gotta go to let me see You know like Goldman Sachs and they gotta go borrow the money in the agreement It says if they can't borrow it below 5% interest rate. They can opt out

48:30 Well, I can guarantee you they're not going to find it below 5%. No one's gonna give any of these countries any kind of money below five because they're all at huge risk. The whole idea is risky so then they can't pay for it and I think its gonna come right back to the IMF and the IMF is going to bail out Europe Of course we are essentially the IMF Right that we're paying most of the money pretty much. Yeah, so then Hey cheap vacations will own Greece John and they got a lot of nice islands there The place does need cleaning up so I feel yeah well the whole euro thing is Sometimes I think this was actually the plan bit It's like so we have the crisis no one can afford the crisis then the IMF moves in probably the World Bank and Then it all belongs to somebody

49:26 Yeah, that would be fun to watch that one especially with these crazy Greeks. Well they're not loved right now let me tell you that and of course it's not their fault No if you're promised retirement at 50 with full pay for the rest of your life if you take this job in government lets say and you take the job is it your fault? That you took a good deal? No of course not But you know why blame any elites right? Why go and blame some elitist. Let's just blame the Greek Yeah, the Greek lazy Greek meanwhile actually Eric takes vacations in Greco Greece all the time You know he's full of crap He goes there and vacations on cheap Greek wine so yeah Well, well there you go cheap Greek wine as long as it isn't you know did wine that used to be

50:26 popular or not, but it was never really popular. It was just kind of a curiosity that the Greeks supposedly drank and even though I've never run into a Greek that liked this stuff which is Retsina What's it called? Retsina. And I will not, last time I was in Greece so I always make sure to have a glass of the best retsina I can find which is like drinking...I don't know what it is It's the worst product in the world essentially what it is Is some sort of wine that harkens back to the Greco-Roman times when they, to seal the jugs of wine they used a tree resin as a cork. And so the tree resin, or they put a piece of block of wood in there and put some resin but there's resin involved and the resin would always leach into the wine and make it taste like tree resin So you was like drinking a little bit like drinking turpentine and its just really one of the most gosh awful things in the world uh... and that's what cheap greek wine is. Okay Just a little lecture for people who always want more wine information

CHAPTER 10 / 25 Discussion

Nobu Restaurant Dining, Corporate Expense Accounts

A review of a recent meal at Nobu in Los Angeles highlights signature dishes like black cod and beef in truffle butter. The high cost of the restaurant is noted, with a suggestion that such venues are best visited on a corporate expense account. The strategy of using high-end meals to distract CEOs and marketing executives during business pitches is discussed.

nobu· los angeles· black cod· fine dining· expense accounts

51:31 Now there's your wine tip of the day. Look for some Retsina, they do bring it in the United States you can buy it at a store It is very inexpensive like five bucks a bottle maybe six and you can try it Well sounds like something not to try actually Well you should have it once in your life By the way while we're on that Mickey and I splurged because she has been on this nutty diet And I'm like okay I need to go out restaurant eat something real for a minute here We went to Nobu Yeah, which as you say is of course an overpriced going out of style concept But if you go to yet tasty well beyond tasty And if you go if you're in Los Angeles and you have the money because it's gonna cost you a couple hundred bucks for just two people I mean this was like a big splurge. It was outrageous cheap for no boo. It's cheap ask for Pete Tell him I sent ya and basically he's like Pete You just bring out whatever you think is right cuz they do like me know stuff you share

52:26 Oh my god, John. I think I had seven courses with you and it's all fresh in this white fin they do is amazing black cod which is in yeah That's the one that's got the pickled or whatever a rotted rotten something It's really tasty oh my goodness And then there was this beef in truffle butter sauce. It was just Unbelievably outrageous and you have the feeling that it did like they're there Like they're catching the fish right out back. Like they got him in a koi pond or something How much longer these places can sustain themselves because of the economy just is The economy's just not good

53:02 You think? Nobu is like, you know a very expensive place. I've only been...I've never actually but I've eaten at all the Nobu's but i've never paid for a meal there if you know what I mean yeah because it's like somebody says, I need to take you to dinner and someone needs to take me to dinner so I always have them take me to places like Nobu And my experience, by the way as a journalist who likes to go out to dinner is that you always want to and I'm very popular amongst the PR women because they know i'm always pushing them to more expensive places. And then they have an expense account anyway? They have the expense account but they're picking it up but they have the excuse that well this guy wanted to go there we couldn't choose any place else we couldn't you know... Go to a cheap restaurant cause this guys in A-hole and of course he's inviting me over and over again because they get to have the meal too Right

53:51 Anyway, so anyway, so it no boo is a place where you always want to get the expense account or oriented Somebody taking you there But the thing that's great I've learned over the years is that I don't really like going out that much. It just shouldn't stay at home Yeah because I can cook as well except that noble I can't cook that stuff but But the kicker is that if you take some of these CEOs and some of these marketing guys to this really great restaurants with this really good food, it takes them right off their pitch because they get so engrossed in the food. It makes my life a lot easier. I don't have to listen to him So Noah Jenden Knight on Twitter, I don't know if he's actually a knight or not but he calls himself Noah Jenden Knight scoffed at me

CHAPTER 11 / 25 Discussion

MADD Neo-Prohibitionism, Candy Lightner and Alcohol Revenue

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) is criticized for evolving into a "neo-prohibitionist" organization, a sentiment echoed by its founder Candy Lightner. Financial records indicate the group generates significant revenue from court-ordered Victim Impact Panels (VIPs). This trend toward restricting alcohol is also noted in France, where new regulations have limited alcohol advertising and public consumption.

mothers against drunk driving· candy lightner· dui· prohibition· france

54:35 This week saying, oh you know the scam with the scram bracelets that we talked about. The one that Lindsay Lohan has to wear? You drink you go to jail. Says you have no idea I can't believe you guys missed this incredible scam and like what are you talking about and he sends me all these links about mad which of course started originally as Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Right, and the original founder of it had quit the group after they became radical? Yeah, Candy Lightner she left in 2002 and actually told The Washington Times Matt has become far more neo-prohibitionist than I'd ever wanted or envisioned...I didn't start mad to deal with alcohol, I started mad to deal with the issue of drunk driving

55:21 And so you look at some of this stuff and, you know me I like to look into the finances. So they do about 40 million dollars a year in revenue and A healthy portion of that is from these so-called VIPs which is the vehicle... what's it called? I'll say Vehicle Indoctrination Program but essentially the court orders people who have a DUI or convicted DUI Go to a I guess it's kind of meeting where you have to pay To be at this meeting and that like the eight million dollars in revenue between 8 & 10 for these meetings And then, you know people stand up and say what? You have to pay mad. It's if there's a fee you have to pay the fee Mad gets money out of this deal Yes! Eight to ten million dollars a year look going back three years

56:17 And by the way, half their money of that 40 million goes to salaries. It's like whoa! Why are we doing that instead of this show? I don't know, we're doing it wrong, that's for sure. This is unbelievable and you know so you have to pay a fee to go listen about horrible stories, I'm sure. And by the way it's not just mothers anymore of course. It's my son, my dad, my grandfather killed by drunk driver etc., all horrible absolutely But I do agree that this has gotten out of control and now we have this whole concept that you can't drink. They got this neo-prohibitionist thing going on all over the place, including the country of France of all places! Yeah why is this? Why are people against drinking now?!

57:05 Well, you know this is one of these things that's been sneak... it's been subtle propaganda. It has been sneaking up on people The Mad Group is one of the people who have obviously been promoting it and there has never been a liquor industry as sheepish about uh... You know now they got it they can't even show what..you can't even have a liquor ad in France anymore And if you had or wine ad you can't have that uh... and you can't i mean and i don't know i mean it's just a prohibition is that so it's a group of people that are religious and they're against all forms of drinking many of them baptists i might add at least live down the street for baptist kid whose dad was a preacher and make the kid couldn't dayton go to dances in there was a big thing about about about drinking and always ask the question well

57:48 How come Noah, in the Bible, the first thing he does is get off the ark and plants a vineyard? And they say well it's just for grape juice. By the way... It's for Welch's Grape Juice! So they didn't have pasteurization back then I don't care what you do if you squeezed a bunch of these grapes into a bucket You'd have wine within a week. You're getting high no matter what. Anyway so these churches give or they have a communion service and they give orange juice which seems like a violation and it's just ridiculous but it is all this teetotalers, you know hand ringers and its been sneaking up on people. And the fact that the French are putting up with I think there's a large contingent of people that just put up with everything nowadays Well that would not be us

CHAPTER 12 / 25 Discussion

Vietnam War Draft, Berkeley Protests and Induction Refusal

A discussion regarding personal histories during the Vietnam War era focuses on anti-war protests in Berkeley. An anecdote is shared about an individual who openly refused induction into the military and was never prosecuted, despite repeated threats from federal authorities. The conversation touches on the various methods people used to avoid the draft during the 1960s.

vietnam war· berkeley· draft dodger· fbi· induction

58:36 Well, we bitch. Yeah I don't see you marching on the street Dvorak. I've done my marching. I don't need to anymore Really? What did you march for all kinds of stuff? Yeah, give me one example Come on, why not what did you want do you? FBI file I'm not gonna do you march against well Please like a bunch against the Vietnam War how about that? You did yeah so where in Washington No, no it's Berkeley. A half-hearted attempt! It was too... Washington is too cold this time of year let's march in Berkeley So did you were you uh do you get a draft notice or are you to old for the draft? No your perfect age weren't you I was in college

59:24 Oh, I was in high school when it began. Okay so you never got a draft notice? You didn't have to go? No, you know what, i'm not going to discuss it Were you a draft dodger John? Uh...I wasn't a draft dodger. I'll give an entire presentation sometime when is more appropriate Well isn't this the most appropriate place ever?! No, when I have like this one. I can get my ducks in a row and so far as my story is concerned Oh you mean? This is basically you grilling the official story Wait a minute this oh, this is very interesting I need to get Rachel Maddow in here So yeah, this is the right is the official story that you want to present versus the truth Is that what I'm hearing no no I actually have a great story to tell especially about

1:00:07 the way the system works. It's a great story, but I don't feel like telling it at the moment if you don't mind... Okay! Okay okay, you don't have to get all huffy. Jeez, you always ask me everything I tell you immediately like an honest guy You know? I didn't know you had to hold stuff back. You never say anything. I say everything immediately right on the spot. Really? You asked about hookers and I gave you a clear and honest answer What about hookers? I don't feel like talking about it right now. Okay So uh.. I got a clip for ya. Cough Dodger what?! No, I wasn't a draft dodger. I marched in Berkeley! Stop the war! Ban the bomb! He actually refused induction Who did? A friend of mine

1:00:58 So the guy refuses induction, he just says no I'm not gonna fuck ya. Basically is what he said and so we all watched this with great anticipation. Apparently for weeks on end you know somebody knock on his door and they could be from the FBI or something to threaten him And they threatened him throughout the entire Vietnam War about once a week somebody come over and threatened them and nobody ever did anything Really? Yeah then it just got dropped So he was our hero because Because everybody else you know to try to get out of going to Vietnam in one way or another But it was always the subterfuge. He basically just said no screw ya, and he went good. He didn't go It is the only honest guy

1:01:41 Oh wow. Okay, can we talk about this one time? Like maybe on a special episode the Dvorak files Yeah maybe we'll do this on a third show yeah what happened in the 60's it was John Do you have- This is where your tech hippie comes from right that's when your projecting back I don't think who's the tech hippie I know what you're talking about okay Hey shall we thank some supporters of the show before we go to more of your real news clips Let's see Ah yes Yeah, we have a few donors not many. We got it lousy we have this is gonna be the whole summer for us We're gonna have no money coming in if it wasn't for sir Daniels We wouldn't have any income this week essentially and I wanted to excoriate the listeners for not supporting us Tony accuse him in Mitch Brother's mickage. I think I would pronounce it cuz me kitch cuz mckittsch yeah from Melbourne Melbourne That's a real Australian name because mickage

CHAPTER 13 / 25 Discussion

Producer Donations, Salt Movie Promotion and Birthday Wishes

Donors including Robert Gold and John C. Jones are recognized for their financial support, with birthday wishes extended to their family members. A marketing campaign for the Angelina Jolie film "Salt" is noted in New York City, featuring the slogan "Salt Must Die." The hosts debate whether the timing of the ad campaign is a coincidence or a coordinated media event.

robert gold· john c. jones· angelina jolie· salt· podcast for peace

1:02:41 from Melbourne, Australia. Gives $100. Patrick Rodey of photography uh... he wants to give a shout out to john fitzgerald the jon for jill for congress dot com is paying is a painting contractor running for congress and get more weston nine eleven truth in arresting the bankers ticket right off it that's exactly i like this there zero going out and getting them in the mouth as it were needless to say we will be getting any speedy small planes course not very smart although i don't think it's gonna matter fifty five ten two nicked two double eagles on the dime robert gold toronto ontario

1:03:17 This is his third minute man donation in the family and this was for his daughter Dara on the occasion of her birthday, May 31st. Alright. Hopefully this is the only one because we seem to do pretty poorly with this, but Dara happy birthday! Your birthday will be tomorrow on behalf of your dad Robert Gold it's an official birthday wish from the No Agenda Boys Just pretend you didn't hear the edit there

1:03:54 So, DaraGold.ca is her website and she apparently does good art so check it out Daragold, D-A-R-A Gold dot C-A dot Canada Also we got another two nickels on a dime from oh no we didn't get we just go 5150 from a podcast for peace dot com uh... john jones if that is indeed his real name from harlington texas gives the no it's john c jones john c jones this year seems to be important for some people there john and i might value your show i've listened since march two thousand nine when a bosnian told me about you

1:04:36 I guess as it goes. I guess there's Bosnians floating around Harlington, Texas As this is my first donation. I request to be de douched You've been D douched I long wanted to offer two cents when you laughed at CNN making references the CCTV coverage of the Chilean earthquake and uh... and then i thought about paying two nickels and a dime twenty cents in creating a million listener movement but because it is my wife's birthday you give her a birthday at call out i need to pay at least fifty dollars so i sent fifty twenty-two her name is me ray are maria

1:05:23 Hey Maria, we wanted to wish you a very happy birthday. John C Jones said so and he paid for the privilege! Happy Birthday! That one crapped out... And finally Simon Reed and Tim Paderson uh... For uh.... $50 having my coffee listening to no agenda in the morning outside I took look up to see a New York City bus with the black ad With salt must die written on it. Yeah, this is the have you seen those those? Oh It's huge And that the website is who is salt calm This is the movie salt starring Angelina Jolie

1:06:05 Oh, um which is coming up. Interesting tie-in if you... Yeah yeah that Sony picture set is on board. No coincidence? Yeah no there's absolutely no coincidence there Salt must die which is a uh the timing is just beautiful I'm not gonna play the jingle because I think it is coincidence well what the hell who cares Coincidence?! I THINK NOT! It's not really a jingle True. I don't think true all right, so that's our group and we want to encourage people to help us out We need help every week No agenda show calm Devorah org slash na channel Dvorak comm slash NA and anyone who wants to contribute directly to the stream? We do have the work org slash NAS

CHAPTER 14 / 25 Discussion

Ground Zero Mosque Controversy, Joy Behar and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

The proposal to build a 13-story Islamic community center and mosque near Ground Zero in New York City sparked intense debate on The Joy Behar Show. While proponents argue the project promotes religious tolerance and community amenities, critics view it as insensitive to the families of 9/11 victims. The New York City community board voted 29-1 in favor of the project, despite significant public opposition.

ground zero mosque· joy behar· feisal abdul rauf· bloomberg· park51

1:06:54 And we appreciate all the smaller donations which come in on a regular basis. You can sign up to one of our $5 month programs or The Lucky 30 Those will over time start to sustain us I don't think we're getting a lot of extra ones in that regard No, we do not get enough for the five dollar and thirty dollar Subscriptions We get very few actually but you have a few but it's nothing that is going to keep this show going without the bigger donors and contributors What I do see though More downloads on like a 30% increase since episode 197 I hope that people are getting other people to listen to the show and i'm going, to encourage you To do what because we had somebody sent us a very long note about how their

1:07:41 Douchebag friend listen to the show once and things were full of crap about everything. We're just entertainers And it was a very interesting memo and most of it was Logically inconsistent almost we read all of that by the way It's just business like the guys obviously Just a brainwashed robot The thing is, what we want to do is preach to the choir. I think this is good advice because the choir needs to be talked to these guys that are off the deep end and they're crazy liberals and they have all of these bad actors you know? We're not going to get Joy Behar for example To listen to the show and slap her forehead and say oh my god! I've been wrong all these years! It's just not gonna happen. Unlikely

1:08:32 Very unlikely. She is for, as we mentioned here in some clips... she's actually for... they want to build a mosque. I look this up because someone is sending all kinds of messages and This actually passed a vote in New York. This is a mosque, they want to build a mosque, a big one, a 13-story mosque on ground zero except it's just kind of a block away from the middle bit. Well yeah two blocks away I understand But essentially they want to get as close to ground zero as they can at some symbolic thing and of course this guy, the imam is taken apart by one character that I have a clip of

1:09:17 But they talked about this on the Joy Behar show and Joy had one person, some woman who was I guess a family member of the 9-11 group complaining about this in a very defensive manner because everybody else including Joy. Joy had like the daughter of the imam herself and some wimpy guy who all thought that it was a great idea put the mosque there because it shows how tolerant they are and Behar hints that if we don't let them do the mosque, they're going to be mad at us. And we don't want 1.5 billion people mad at us as if anyone in Indonesia gives a crap about anything we do one way or another unless somebody brainwashes them and they're still not gonna like us so uh... If you wanna play the Behar One clip

1:10:08 I think that in the spirit of tolerance and mutual understanding, and mutual... In the spirit of tolerance you would allow it. No no! Who am i? God?! I'm not disallowing it. You are protesting it though. I'm protesting because I feel that its very insensitive It hurts the 9-11 families all the families who were there last night. I think that is incredibly insensitive to our feelings Just jump in. I want to jump in because we have received support from elected officials I know they voted to put it up. Squadron, Stringer, Chinn... They all came in support of this because they really want to see the Muslim community leading the effort to rebuild Lower Manhattan and we have Jewish leaders who came out in support of our initiative We had Christian leaders that came out in support of our initiative

1:10:57 families 250 families the peaceful families they really want to oh nice one the peaceful families yeah I love the way she's looking at it ones who got paid five million dollars was a or two million dollars to shut up the peaceful family's home my god and like this they want us to take the tragedy of 9-11 question and turn it into something positive. I hear what you're saying, can i ask a legit question where's the money for this it's going to cost 100 million dollars where is the money coming from? Well that's a very good question actually we went to the community board so we could excite them and find out what their needs were because its really for the community determine the full scope of this project so when our detractors say that we are should... How can someone say it's for the, is this like a community center? Can we have basketball games there? It's not for the community. That's a crock of crap. ...changing and changing. Of course we are! The whole scope of the project has not been defined you know we heard from people so we decided that we should have a memorial sensitivity to everyone right now we heard from other community and we've decided that where there's going to be a senior citizen space because that's what's needed

1:12:01 Oh yeah, there will be a Senior Citizen Center. This is great. We are creating a 500 seat performing arts theater, so okay there you go It's for the community five hundred seats from 500 and I know nightclubs that are bigger than that yeah Bogus Lee small yeah The money is not we have not even started the fundraiser you afraid that there's gonna be some kind of jihad thing I just like this exception the fact that the imam said that the Christians at the West were responsible for 9-11, the fact that the imams father was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. That is not true at all! This is an absolute false statement. Did he not feel the 96? This why it's good women don't run the world. Just listen to this...this is not okay

1:12:52 Yes, right. Adam at curry dot com I said it. There's evidence of it and we could certainly spend time We ought to present the evidence but this is a false statement And the 49 Muslim nations that contributed to the 96th Street Islamic Center Is that false too? I have absolutely no idea where you're getting your information from because it's false. You are actually making false statements and my father-in-law has been dead for almost, you know 7 or 8 years and i think its very painful a man who dedicated his life to interfaith dialogue who actually began interfaith dialogue in this country he was great luminary who shaped Islam in this country as way of... Who is this woman John?

1:13:30 She is, I don't have her name in front of me but she is the daughter or the...she's related to the E-mob guy who is going to heading up this whole thing. She's a relative. I think, I dunno if she's the daughter or... She's one of the peaceful families. The peaceful families. Reaching out into faith communities it's wrong! It's wrong to say something about somebody who has deceased. bad to say anything about the dead you know so i don't want any church built their screw that no church they were there supposed to put up a memorial that like a stone did the thing that i haven't done anything is ridiculous and of course it new yorkers get pushed around by a red yet this is a good reason why new york sucks

1:14:15 I mean the fact that this could happen and then all of the votes that said, oh this is okay. Just like some community group that is set up by the mayor's office Bloomberg behind it and they voted 29 to 1 in favor of it. And its laughable but meanwhile you can get You actually should play the rest because you can hear the end where Bayhardt just goes on and on about what a great idea it is, and how this guy jumps in saying, I can see both sides of the story but we need to be more tolerant. We're a nation of people that are tolerant I would be happy to post the evidence of the Muslim Brotherhood and i do feel your pain and we're asking that you feel our pain. We do, well that's actually the point of this whole discussion Joy is that this is a discussion where I can actually see both sides but symbolism cuts two ways yeah I mean I could understand one man's symbolism slapping his face as another man's gesture of brotherhood The question though at the end of day

1:15:09 if it's going to go either way, where does America come down? The genius of America the beauty of America is that we err on the side of tolerance. We error on the side of openness. We error on the side of letting inclusion in and for me the number is not how many people died but the fact that you say 1.5 billion Muslims are we gonna say to them You're not welcome here! Your viewed as the enemy here I think thats a dangerous message hatred of America. I don't think so, it would be lovely if we said we understand the feelings of the victims of 9-11 and won't put a giant mosque here. I disagree that would be an extraordinary gesture of goodness mutual respect and understanding no one's telling them they can't

1:15:49 We're asking them not to. Well, then they are going to. They already voted to do it. The vote has no power. The important thing is what the community said yesterday 29 people voted in favor of this because we are bringing much needed amenities. But the crowd was very much against it and the elected officials, the politicians did not reflect the people's sentiments at all I would think Thank you very much everybody. Up next, Jesse James. So this seems... I have Jesse James up next! Oh good finally back to some real news so this is this is to me just a distraction as we're coming up on the 10th anniversary they're starting it now so we can have this as the conversation and not about the fact that this was clearly an inside job that renowned journalists like Alan Hart are now coming out and saying look this was what was a controlled demolition

CHAPTER 15 / 25 Discussion

Walid Shoebat, Sharia Law and PJTV Analysis

Walid Shoebat, described as a former terrorist, appeared on PJTV to discuss the potential for Sharia law to infiltrate democratic governments. Shoebat claims that certain Islamic theologians advocate for establishing Islamic governance through existing democratic systems. The segment is critiqued as a potential distraction that uses religious tension to drive media engagement.

walid shoebat· sharia law· pjtv· muslim brotherhood· terrorism

1:16:38 likely not necessarily done by Islamists or radical Muslims. They seem to be very happy that it happened let's run the mosque rundown clip too which is another guy who actually looks at the Arabic you know the same guy... Yeah, this is what we always talk about. So there's always like oh this was said on an Islamist website and when you know we question the translation! Who says? I can't read Arabic so of course i have to question this guy too because I don't know if he's full of crap either. You should question him but at the same time I don't see anybody disputing any these things it begins with a guy who

1:17:19 who quotes the imam as to what he's up to and then he throws it to this Walid character uh... who always seem to be to be some sort of a cia guy and um... and he explains what he's run into but i think these things are valid as i have seen in the memory project any m r i and there's a couple other uh... s websites that look at all this stuff and they keep finding it so i like it is not like these guys don't you know i think that they can get away with saying whatever they want to do it arabic arabic uh... audience on newspaper Right. Alright, so here's the translation dude. It's a method to my madness bear with me. This is from Pajamas TV by the way which seems to be like some senior citizens... Yeah it's just something... What is this? What is PJTV I don't like it. It's some guy, it's like one of the Mevio shows

1:18:11 Yeah, and we should put Joy Behar on that network. She belongs on PJTV. I just said this could be on MeVeo. No, you said it's like the MeVeo network is what you said It is! No we don't have senior citizens well cranky geeks Hey look at me We know the people who want to embolden the vast majority of Muslims who hate terrorism To stand up to radical rhetoric Our purpose is to interweave America's Muslim population into the mainstream society

1:18:49 Does this track with what you've been reading, Waleed on the Arabic websites? This is why I always have been arguing. Americans need to understand what Islamic theologians are saying in the Arabic language and not what they say in the English language What he said on an article In a interview that he did with Hady Al-Islam Probably one of the most prominent news media in the Muslim world In which he was asked regarding establishing Islamic governance And he said, throughout and I quote him exact quote. Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more just a single form or mold It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy

1:19:34 The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. In other words, you can infiltrate a government that is a kingdom or democracy in this case the United States and you can proceed in trying to establish Sharia law similar to what happened in Great Britain they do it through peaceful means and they claim to be anti-terrorism while the agenda to hide the slick willies of Islamists in the United States of America, to call for more implementations of Sharia law. What surprises me John is you didn't actually put the whole clip on there

1:20:15 The whole clip is a mile long. But did you didn't put the intro of that clip where this guy intros? Oh no, I- That was my mistake Did you do you recall how he's intro'd No He said the guy Listen, uh, I want you to hear how this PJTV dude How we intros this guy because it's very funny and i'm surprised You didn't put that on there here It is oh This is the leader for pj tv hold on you gotta listen to this Hurry up with your stupid leader. This is why I didn't put it on now Roger Simon with PJ TV, and I'm here with my friend Wally's shoe bat he's a former terrorist and Former terrorists yeah How does that work? They did a special on this guy one of the gave up. Oh, yeah, I don't want to be a terrorist essentially was a Palestinian

1:21:07 I don't want to listen to this guy. He's still a terrorist! He might be... You know, he didn't become a former terrorist overnight? He didn't. He was thrown in the slammer and apparently some of the... It was a long story another one that is too long on the show but it became like one these guys who quit smoking then becomes fanatic about the other side Oh you can't smoke in here Mean essentially is what he is one of those guys so it's a personality type That's not unusual to run into someone who becomes nutty about something because they've all of us on switch sides and the issue Yeah, but I can't believe this guy. I can't believe this guy So you think he's lying about all this stuff? And I think I think it doesn't matter. I think it's a huge distraction I think it throws religion into

1:21:57 Light of importance gonna be discussed at all. You just think the mosque should be built and that's the end of it Oh, please don't give me that crap you know I don't want a mosque and I wanna church And I want to temple. I don't want anything built there well. I want something nothing is being built yeah But no I don't want any real. I'm against organized religion personally I think it's bogus so of course not and I did that's ridiculous of you to say this for dick Well, I'm just telling ya says you won't let me play my clips. No. It's boring The guy just so we know what he's gonna say there. They basically want to infiltrate is that okay? Let's take it to where you want to go the topics done let's go to that same screen and Play the inside edition summary, so when get catch up with the news okay

CHAPTER 16 / 25 Discussion

Inside Edition Recap, Gary Coleman Death and Tyra Banks

A summary of recent tabloid news includes the death of actor Gary Coleman at age 42 and the final episode of The Tyra Banks Show. Inside Edition coverage also featured updates on the Jesse James scandal and Sarah Ferguson's travel habits. The use of repetitive laugh tracks and applause loops in daytime talk shows is highlighted as a sign of declining production quality.

gary coleman· inside edition· tyra banks· jesse james· deborah norville

1:22:47 Actor Gary Coleman dead at 42 the breaking news The Diff'rent Strokes star dies after slipping into a coma and going on life support from his glory days on different strokes To his tragic fall from grace the rise and fall of a generation TV legend, then exclusive. Jesse James' stepmom... What she's saying about his shocking allegations against his father. Somebody needs to step in and say this is a lie! And Oprah here she comes Fergie flies off to her big interview. She says she's broke, but check out how she travels... Her expensive luggage! Then... Who can such monsters have no feelings? A college student left for dead after a hit and run His mangled bloody body stuck in the shattered glass I was treated

1:23:43 Plus, just in time for summer. Bikini ready bodies for real women. You can absolutely eat rich decadent food. Dropping 40 pounds to get this beach-ready bod. Our Inside Edition with Deborah Norville Have you caught up? Are you caught up now? I'm ready thank you that is 60 seconds of my life i'll never get back and then you don't need them back highly appreciated Okay, I got one for you. Hold on. I want to thank the plethora of producers who have Done the work and figured out the etymology of jabroni Oh yeah, I got a bunch of notes on which indeed appears to stem from 1931 Yeah, and it is Italian and just so your sister. Yeah, she's a jabroni

1:24:35 She gave you a bum steer. Yeah, she jipped me on that one and interestingly enough although I didn't have time to find the clip apparently on this season of The Bachelorette A guy uses the word jabroni! Well he probably listens to our show. He must be listening to this show So I was, for some reason, I don't know why I was less aware of it. Because I don't really care but these applause and laugh tracks that are just loops and it's almost ridiculous how obvious it is So I ran into, I watched it because I was collecting these summaries and I caught the end of the last of the Tyra Banks shows. The last show she's in this is her final episode so she goes out to a round of applause

1:25:26 And so I recorded the applause because I figured it would be useful as something you could just throw applause in. But it's such a roller coaster of the guy turning up and down the same thing, if this doesn't sound like...I think you hear the exact same loop about five times And it's borderline ridiculous that this... It's the Tyra Banks show! John, what are you doing? What happened to C-SPAN this week? Play the... I got C-SPAN stuff. Did you get bored? Play the Tyra Banks applause. Runway walk on the Tyra Show runway. It sounds like a roller coaster ride. Hear it? Yeah

CHAPTER 17 / 25 Discussion

White House Weekly Address, Green Screen Production Issues

President Obama's weekly address for Memorial Day is criticized for its poor production quality, specifically the obvious use of a green screen. Viewers noted inconsistencies in the President's attire and a black outline around his head, suggesting the background was digitally inserted. The hosts question why the White House would use a studio setup rather than filming in an actual room.

barack obama· whitehouse.gov· green screen· memorial day· video production

1:26:22 I am so sick and tired of Tyra Banks. Well, she's done! And women eat that shit up. I don't know why could never figure it out Tyra Banks is the worst show ever on television Now i'd like you to go to whitehouse.gov just for a second John and this isn't a video exercise not an audio exercise And you'll see right there on the homepage, the President's speech for this week. Something new! As you know I always watch our fearless leader speech and of course it is about Memorial Day which as we know is all about the sale at the mall but he does remind us that this is to respect, and you know I come from a long line of government military

1:27:02 servants and so this of course is a day of remembrance for everyone who was fallen in wars and has served our country. And this is what the president, who I might know did not serve, is talking about but they have this what we call a poster image on the video if you go to the weekly address honoring the fallen and you'll see that that is a picture of him in a room somewhere but when you play the video And I'm not gonna use the sound you will see any video here if you go to Whitehouse.gov, right? Yeah There's a bit there's a slideshow watch the video watch the video yes Okay nice now first You see that picture right you see where he's sitting is sitting in some room as a backlight on his head and everything Please also take note of what he's wearing but then watch the video He's wearing a different tie

1:28:00 So that was a different picture this John is green screen the president is sitting. There's a fake background That's it the the focus is all different It's I mean, I know green screen when I see it The guy is sitting in front of a green screen now look at it tell me that isn't green screen Yeah But how about to be the side shot well? The side shots he's wearing a different He's wearing a different outfit is wearing different time is or do what no no I'm talking about the side shot in the video What side shot oh? 20 seconds into it they have a second camera go on him from the side. I'm watching now, Homer. There's no 20 seconds Keep watching. Right there 19 what? No, it said 19 seconds They gotta show you must be watching something different doesn't say honoring the fallen know I'm watching The Big Win over lobbyists on Wall Street Go to the weekly address

1:28:53 Well, I just clicked on watch video. It says your weekly address it's yours John your weekly address yours? I gotta go back. It's number one on the slideshow. I'm on this okay watch the video is important all right Oh watch the video right now click on the video and You'll see that this is completely green screen well what's wrong with that oh This is because I yeah, this is totally green. This is not even a good job. That's my point It's horrible And what's the point yet? Why not why can't he just do his address from wherever he is why is he now in a studio in a green screen studio

1:29:33 Why are they faking this? One of those jabronis that is the high-tech guy probably thought was a great idea. In fact, they got the top of his head cut off! In fact they go to a close up shop because he flubbed his line and it's the same background they're using with the same light inflection on the door around 135 136 It's just I don't like it. Is it's fake its phony. It's like him fake and phony And I don't understand. It's the first time it's just noticeable that they're now doing green screen Yeah, you know maybe maybe you can do a green screen from Evia. I gotta see Hey watch everything down below click on stuff It next will have pre-rolls. I'm telling it the guys going all the way oh There's that shot see it's like. It's really bad greenscreen cut in yeah anyway

1:30:29 And they got the top of his head cut off. I know it's dumb, it's really bad It's really really bad The key is good though They did a good key? I don't think the keys that great as you got a black line around him look at his neck and the close-up Oh yeah, you're right Yeah, yeah You're right the close up key isn't too good anyway Why would they do that why would they go green screen what wait? I mean I kind of dug it when he was just sitting in the White House now He's not even the White House where was he No, I don't know now. We had to go relook at those things and maybe they were green screen better on others I watched it every week because the first time all right not that interesting But maybe he's not in town and he just wanted to couldn't get the other guy Yeah They usually have one of us usually in town And one of our producers pointed out to me that we really have Oliver actually from The Netherlands That we really blew it on On a big meme

CHAPTER 18 / 25 Discussion

Foxconn Suicide Rates, Media Narrative and Apple

Reports on suicides at Foxconn factories in China are analyzed in the context of national statistics. While the media has labeled Foxconn an "iPhone suicide factory," data suggests the suicide rate among the company's 450,000 employees is actually lower than the national average in China. The discussion notes that other major tech companies like Dell, HP, and Microsoft also utilize Foxconn for manufacturing.

foxconn· china· apple· iphone· suicide rate

1:31:28 About the Foxconn suicides Okay, and he says what's interesting about this of course is that journalists are only? talking about two things Or really want. It's all Apple, it's the iPhone suicides whereas of course Dell makes stuff there HP Nintendo I mean a lot of stuff comes from this factory and The fact that compared to the national suicide rate of China its actually their suicides are low So he has the statistics here and he has links. They have between four and five hundred thousand employees AP says 300,000 New York Times is 420,000 Foxconn themselves as 486,000 but in China 14 out of every 100,000 people commit suicide every year so to match China's average 68 Foxconn employees would have to commit suicide every year so they're actually a little bit behind

1:32:31 But he does note that lots of journalists, and I think this is a good point are all saying this is the iPhone suicide factory. That's what I did Yeah So you're part of it? Can you resist so your part of the meme course okay? Bad you. Who could, who can resist? Well you could say it's the- I mean they gave here's my rationale They gave Kathy Lee Gifford all this crap for running a sweatshop making you know blouses or whatever and they give Nike all this crap for running a sweatshop making shoes but yet Apple gets a free pass! Give me a break! Well not just Apple but HP and Dell and Microsoft

CHAPTER 19 / 25 Discussion

Afghanistan Drug Trade, CIA Involvement and Marine Reports

A report from a hospital worker treating Marines from Afghanistan claims that drugs confiscated from runners are often handed over to an unidentified agency, likely the CIA. While some drugs are destroyed in public ceremonies, there is a strong belief among service members that the bulk is sold on the black market to fund covert operations. The use of hashish among the local Afghan population is also noted as a pervasive issue.

afghanistan· cia· heroin· opium· marines

1:33:17 What do they do for Microsoft? Xbox 360. Oh, yeah Foxconn pretty much makes everything them and the other company quanta There's two of these guys and they end the CEO just gave everybody a 20% raise Yeah, I mentioned that in one of my columns they went from $26 a week to 27. I mean come on awesome They only get paid 25 bucks a week So what kind of a raise is that dear Adam and John? I work in a hospital with Marines from Iraq and Afghanistan. Please do not mention my name on the show These guys have been there and seen that as of I they confirm That they look for drug runners of opium and heroin in Afghanistan who bring that stuff on base for the Marines

1:34:03 So I asked them what they do with the confiscated drugs. They say, well some of it they literally blow up or set it on fire but a lot of is taken off their hands by another agency most likely the CIA They never know where these drugs end up once its in the hands of this other agency but they're pretty sure it's sold on the black market for CIA money Mainly they look for drug runners bringing heroin onto the bases because let's face it you can't have Marines stoned on heroin looking to fight Another issue no one talks about is the hash now of course that all the Afghanistan's are all all stoned all the time so there it is from the inside that the drugs are being brought onto the base and They blow some of a of it up for ceremony And the rest has taken off by some agency or the guys in the black with the black truck. How's this news?

1:34:50 Well, it's nice to have it from the inside. No one ever reports this on the real news. They don't actually get killed Precisely oops yeah Maybe we shouldn't be doing a big business It's a big business is good You know this it did say the way I see it is saving the taxpayers money who knows how much money the CIA needs? To do what they do probably too much well This does lead into The official end of the war on drugs and the war on terror. Did you read the, I'm sure you didn't, The National Security Strategy Briefing John? No when did it come out was it in my inbox did you send to me? It came out this week no I should have linked in the show notes and of course you can only imagine that the main issue

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National Security Strategy, Homegrown Terrorism and Internet Regulation

The Obama administration's 2010 National Security Strategy (NSS) shifts focus toward "homegrown terrorism" and the role of the internet in radicalization. This policy aligns with HR 1955, a bill aimed at preventing violent radicalization within the United States. Critics argue these measures are a pretext for shutting down free speech and increasing government surveillance of American citizens.

national security strategy· homegrown terrorism· jane harman· internet· nss

1:35:46 will be homegrown terrorism. That is what our new strategy will be all about, it is what is important and I actually can give you the The rundown because we all have to agree that the internet is at fault mainly for homegrown terrorism. Oh yeah, no the internet is a bad thing we have to admit that to ourselves and then we have to realize it...all of terrorism's coming from within Of course we missed the uh I didn't get the clip up but I should dig it up and run it for the next show which is the clip of our friend from National Treasure

1:36:24 Oh, I have the clip. Oh you have the Tavis Smiley clip? Yeah Hold on a second. You said you didn't have any clips you've played for so far Well, I didn't make any clips. I have the clip. Do you want to just set it up while i get it ready here Here I've got home- okay So first of all The Homegrown Terrorist Threat Um This is actually, this stems out of HR 1955 which passed the House by a voice vote in 2007. This will come to the floor again once the Senate passes it then Then it's pretty much all over. But here it is, and I actually have to read this in the Times online to get my information because gee you wouldn't think that American news media would report on this. Wait a minute what are you talking about? You're telling me that you had to read an English newspaper Yes To get this information because American newspapers didn't run it Correct

1:37:17 The Obama doctrine lays out an agenda of global engagement but also highlights the threats of homegrown terror, cyber terrorism economic collapse and climate change. These are things we have to be worried about John It seeks to rewrite the confrontational narrative of the Bush years arguing against a narrow focus on battling Islamo-fascism or terrorism In fact in his opening statement in this document I encourage everyone to read it's about 50 pages 50... 60 to be exact The president actually goes into the past and you know, in World War II we're fighting fascism. It's what we're fighting now it's the same thing And so it's same thing over and over again So that was Times Online and then of course I couldn't get anything else You go to... this is the White House thing Here's the town hall This is Tavis Smiley speaking with Ayaan Hirsi Ali

1:38:11 who is, people may not know this but Ayn Hirsi Ali was a politician in the Netherlands. She comes from, crap I want to say Nigeria she's Muslim. I think she is Somalian isn't she? Oh Somalia yeah I'm sorry and the controversy around her is that she financed I'll just call it anti-Islamist movie that Teofil Hoch produced, that got him killed or is blamed as the reason for killing him. And here's a Greg... Here's Tavis Smiley speaking with her

1:38:48 And she, by the way is... I mean she's with the UN. I don't like her! I've never met her. Mickey has met her She said that she has a real good energy and a real positive vibe so.. I haven't met the woman So i can't speak about her but I really don't like her Uh and I think she's a shill and a mouthpiece And I think she incites violence and hatred And uh I'm just very suspicious of her But listen to this clip This is um what I get here Some kind of friggin pop up Rush Limbaugh's free book No We dont want that Damn ads. Here we go People who are engaged in terrorist activities look like you and me They look like everybody else here Major Nidal Hassan, the military guy who in November shot 13 of his colleagues And injured 32 He's going to be on trial pretty soon I think this week The young man Faisal Shahzad in Times Square Who tried to blow innocent people that he doesn't know up

1:39:46 These guys are acting on conviction. Somehow, the idea got into their minds that to kill other people is a great thing to do and that they would be rewarded in the hereafter But Christians do that every single day in this country Do they blow up people? Yes, Christians everyday People walk into post offices They walk into schools, that's what Columbine is. I mean, I could do this all day long! There are so many more examples of Christians... and I happen to be a Christian. That's back to this notion you're idealizing Christianity in my mind, to my read. There are so many more examples, Ayanna, of Christians who do that than you could ever give me examples of Muslims who have done that inside this country where you live and work. Well, I think you and I disagree.

1:40:32 That so if you're wrong with that guy looking for the etymology of jabroni. That's it So he said no to for one thing. That's just the only thing He actually cites his Columbine and those wasn't a Christian anything there were two goth kids who are lunatics probably Faring across and then strapped themselves with bombs, I mean this guy's full of shit But I don't like Ayaan Hirsi Ali because her two examples are also very questionable. We don't know of this guy, you know that still the files aren't being released about him killing all these people at Fort Gooder... Yeah well i'm not saying she's a do-gooder but the fact is Tavis Smiley is off his rocker

1:41:14 And he's just gonna take nothing but flack for this. It's crazy! Do you think anyone actually watches that show? No, the right-wingers all picked up that clip and they pass it around like crazy Maybe it's a publicity stunt He'll get a lot more viewers now So CNN is definitely all over this homegrown thing For the first time since 9-11, the National Security Strategy integrates Homeland Security and national security. According to highlights of the plan given to CNN by a senior administration official so they got a leak this is before it came out The Security Strategy acts as a blueprint for how the White House intends to protect Americans Was leaked on purpose? Of course it was So let's go to this bill here for second because this is the genesis of it all

1:42:02 and uh... here it is congress finds the following one the development implementation methods and process that can be utilized prevent violent radicalization homegrown terrorism ideology based ideologically-based violence united states is critical to combating domestic terrorism too the promotion of violent radicalization home grown terrorism ideologically based violence exists in the United States imposes a threat to homeland security And here it is, three. The internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization ideologically based violence and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist related propaganda to United States citizens! It's just ridiculous

1:42:49 Absolutely ridiculous. Just another attempt to shut down the internet and put us in our places Well I think this is, you know we're all going to get put on board the trains and shipped off to the FEMA camps because this is the whole You Can't Talk Negative About The Government This Is Where Elena, what's her name comes in? Our future Supreme Court Justice This is gonna shut down free speech Here, individuals prone to violent radicalization homegrown terrorism blah blah blah and violence span all races ethnicities and religious beliefs an individual should not be targeted based solely on race ethnicity or religion. Not based on what you say is where it's going to be Certain governments including the United Kingdom Canada in Australia have significant experience with home-grown terrorism And the United States can benefit from lessons learned by those nations here come the cameras

1:43:45 So we're gonna be just like the United Kingdom, THE quintessential police state. Please read this! You really need to read this NSS document linked to the show. Who are the people behind the bill? Hold on a second... It got stalled right because it has not been presented to the...it passed the house October 23rd 2007 But it never got to a Senate vote. Let me see... Jane Harman? Oh, Harmon! Co-sponsors Donna Christensen Christopher Carney I don't know any of these people This of course was the previous administration Zoe Loughran A lot of Californians Yeah Who's Jane Harmon? Is she a painter? She is a Democrat She is very well spoken You know has uh.. she just a stooge What can I say

CHAPTER 21 / 25 Discussion

Dennis Hopper Death, Twitter Journalism and Virginia Madsen

Following the death of actor Dennis Hopper from prostate cancer, media outlets are criticized for sourcing news and tributes primarily from Twitter. An anecdote is shared regarding an interview with Hopper during his time at MTV, describing his eccentric personality. The segment also includes unverified Hollywood rumors regarding actress Virginia Madsen and film crew members.

dennis hopper· virginia madsen· twitter· true romance· mtv

1:44:50 People shouldn't have anything to do with this kind of thing. So we're talking about avoidance behavior, did you notice that anybody didn't... the number of people that reported on the killing of 115 and injuring hundreds? A train derailed in India? The government accused Maoist rebels of sabotaging the tracks? Well, of course they'd never say that trains are actually bad. All aboard! Trains good, planes bad! That would be against the talking points Yeah definitely Talking about talking points I have to just read this for a second

1:45:32 You know Dennis Hopper died. Yes, so I'm gonna read from a from an Associated Press article about him and And just tell me you find something peculiar about this quote so long Dennis tweeted actress Virginia Mattson who starred in the hot spot one of the films hopper directed you taught me so much with a big U From that point on, Hopper maintained a frantic work pace appearing in many forgettable movies and a few memorable ones including 1993's True Romance where he played a well-meaning cop trying to protect his son from a gangster played by Christopher Walken. Quote, no better scene in the movies than his showdown with Walken in True Romance actress Elizabeth Banks tweeted Saturday

1:46:17 It looks like we're getting our news from Twitter again. So you just monitor Twitter and then quote people? I mean, is this the new journalism? I interviewed Dennis Hopper about the Virginia Madsen film He came to MTV and he didn't have a lot of time And he said... he had to go to the airport He said Adam! Jump in the back of the car We'll do it there And it was awesome I rode from downtown Manhattan To JFK which as you know Is about an hour drive with traffic And I was just blown away by the guy. He's nuts, or he was nuts. Just completely like the LSD kind of stuck in his brain Very interesting off-the-wall type humor but very endearing and I guess they had prostate cancer it looks really bad at the end there But Virginia Madsen is quite well known for blowing crew members

1:47:16 Oh, that's good to know. Yeah yeah I remember the sound guy uh because she also came by for that uh for the promotion of the movie. Did she give you a blow job too? Nope no no but he said...I know Virginia she used to blow the rigging guy in me all the time The rigging guy! If you want to move up the show business ladder start with the rigging guy So yeah, no we're getting our news from Twitter. Of course! Okay well we're getting our news from Twitter you gotta play one more of these pre-summaries No why don't we put... You got a whole bin here with BBC Afghan Oh yeah okay well here's the story Biden at the Navy, you've got like good stuff going here Brazil sex tourism electric car quotes come on man this looks good Here is a oh well here this is a very funny thing Stossel did on electric He had some guys some energy guy said this all bullcrap

CHAPTER 22 / 25 Discussion

Electric Car Skepticism, Elon Musk and Tesla Motors

John Stossel presented a historical overview of electric car "breakthroughs" dating back to 1915, characterizing the industry as a century of failure. Current concerns focus on Tesla Motors founder Elon Musk's reported financial difficulties and the environmental impact of manufacturing and disposing of large-scale lithium batteries. The $500 million government loan facility for electric vehicle development is also scrutinized.

elon musk· tesla motors· john stossel· electric cars· lithium batteries

1:48:06 We can't get enough wind energy. This is all bogus and he's had all these charts and graphs showing how much you gave him we're in oil economy, get over it And so the idea of electric cars came up and Stossel came up with these great quotes which I'm actually gonna put on a slide because they're just very funny play it This is energy sprawl. If we want to carpet America with wind turbines, and some people seem to think that's okay I don't! I hear electric cars is the next biggest thing. Well... Stossel is a jabroni! What a jabroni! He should set up for his lines. They're the next big thing and they always will be

1:48:46 There have been impressive headlines from my brilliant colleagues in the media, The Washington Post. Prices on electric cars will continue to drop till they're within reach of the average family. That was in 1915... In 1959 the New York Times said, Electric is the car of tomorrow! In 1979, the Washington Post. GM has an electric car breakthrough in batteries now makes them commercially practical We've been hearing the same thing this is the electric car business it is a century of failure tailgating failure So two things first no three things first I love the way Stossel has this inflection point where all of us are his inflection point is very annoying yeah he wants to say something that you need to listen too because otherwise you would fall asleep while you're listening to the drone of his voice

1:49:35 The second one is the sound effects. I guess those are lower thirds or something that are flying in All these channels have this crap And the third thing, I wasn't going to bring it up because i didn't think it was that interesting but now kind of relates. Did you see the story about Elon Musk? The founder of Tesla Motors? What about him? He's bankrupt! Yeah? Well... Okay, the government will bail him out. No no he got a hot new girlfriend Yes well he also has to deal with his divorce but so the whole story was essentially about you know the sinkhole

1:50:15 that this electric car company really is. And yes, there's a $500 million loan facility set up by the Department of Energy and I think two or three car companies who are drawing on that...I think they each have 500 million dollars to draw from it's unbelievable so you do have to pay interest on it but then yeah they're losing money hand over fist and sales are flat Who can afford that car? Yeah, it's like a hundred grand. Jason Calacanis he is the one who can't afford it. He has got one. Dave Letterman had one and then he sent it back because he was too tall to fit into the thing and apparently Schwarzenegger ended up with one so Schwarzenegger helped do the deal I think there is conflict of interest here

1:50:58 Schwarzenegger helped that deal so they're going to be making them in the Numi plant in Fremont for as long as they can, but that's gonna be laughable. The car is essentially a Lotus Elan or a Leader whatever that little bitty one is. Yes it's the Lotus body yes with a bunch of batteries in it A huge battery But you know, no one really does the story on A. You know what will happen when you discard these batteries? The kind of pollution that comes from them and the battery manufacturing in the nickel mining it's a it's an ecological disaster nobody wants to talk about it We might before we go briefly just touch on the mining tax down under we know we have a huge audience in Australia get more nation down under And they've just been inundating us with I think he brought up on Thursday show

CHAPTER 23 / 25 Discussion

Australian Mining Tax, Access Hollywood and Lee DeWyze

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's proposed 60% tax on mining companies in Australia has led to significant economic concerns and a drop in the Australian dollar. In entertainment news, Access Hollywood covered the reunion of Paula Abdul and Simon Cowell, as well as the post-win activities of American Idol's Lee DeWyze. The segment critiques the frantic pacing and heavy use of sound effects in celebrity news broadcasts.

australia· kevin rudd· mining tax· access hollywood· lee dewyze

1:51:46 inundating us with stories about this mining tax. Yeah, they're screwing them! The government's trying to take over the mines I guess? I don't know what the deal is... It's sinking their dollar Well uh...I'm looking for the story here.. I think what was interesting is that Kevin Rudd who they call Crud down there said oh you know we're just a model for the rest of the world this is going to happen everywhere everywhere all these mining companies are going to be taxed they're being taxed like close to 60% which is just you know outrageous and I can't help but think you know nationalization is next yeah they might as well and you know what that means do ya? What does it mean

1:52:43 You fell for it! Now just because you pulled that bull crap. I went Access Hollywood pre-summary You went right into it, I can't believe you fell for it. I am sad actually Simon and Paul reunited My darling Simon What do you want to say to Simon on his last night? Her chariot arrival a night of endless emotions That was like my god I'm Sean Robinson with the whole behind Paula's assignment surprise. Lee DeWise! Good morning. How are you? Only we've got all access to Lee's sleep deprived day after. I'm Billy Butch, can DeWise deal with the shock of it all sinking in? You ready to be rich, Lee? Just hands.

1:53:35 The nightmare of obsessive compulsive disorder caught on camera with the treatment. She got a seat to believe I'm choosing your dress. I'm Maria Menoudos otherwise I mean, my thing is that Access Hollywood has the best one of these things. I now need my prestige

1:54:15 That's what that shit is for. It's the most hectic, it has got the best sound effects and it just is a complete drivel I mean there's actually not one important thing in that entire laundry list of crap It's unbelievable! And they get more noise Oh my god Yeah...it's great I'm listening to these by the way because I want to put one together for our show Well, you're learning is that what this is all about? I'm learning the pacing because the uh But you know the only other one. I have here if we want if you don't want to play No, I don't want to do some of these other clips You got gay in Uganda. You got Biden in the Navy. The thing it's just too funny We have to run it on Thursday though well now run it now Let's let's end with it If it's funny because otherwise I can depress you. There are three things the problem is a three shh It's not a one. It's a three we had to do it's all three of them. Let's do all three

CHAPTER 24 / 25 Discussion

Uganda Anti-Gay Laws, Current TV Documentary and Pastor Martin Ssempa

A documentary on Al Gore's Current TV network explored the controversial anti-gay legislation in Uganda, featuring Pastor Martin Ssempa. The reporting is criticized for its heavy use of background music and for potentially staging interviews with locals who may not speak English as their primary language. The hosts suggest the sudden media focus on Uganda may precede a foreign policy intervention.

uganda· martin ssempa· current tv· al gore· lgbt rights

1:55:09 come on okay so this is the give this is a report that was on current which isn't albert gores uh... there he has sat v news show and in it besides being a cracker crap generally speaking because um... It's obviously the whole thing is staged, all the signs are in English. Everybody speaking English it's about the Ugandans anti-gay laws and so there's three clips first of first up is the intro to the whole thing which has got some preacher some black preacher screaming about gays you can play that Before we pray I want you to know what do homosexuals do? Then you can weep when you see someone promoting something that is evil

1:55:56 The major argument homosexuals have is what people do in the privacy of their bedroom. It's nobody's business, but do you know what they are doing in their bedroom? I love the... Yeah, they have. The other thing is about this and this is supposed to be a documentary or some woman and some other guy roaming around and they have sound effects They have background music on the clips. I mean I find that this would be the worst form of journalism Well no worse than Access Hollywood but Access Hollywood doesn't pretend to be like investigating anything play clip two

1:56:34 He will overcome every power of darkness. Semper first attracted a spotlight through his HIV work, working with young people through his church on the campus of Macareri University His preaching of family values and abstinence only made him a favorite of American Christian groups looking to partner with Africans to combat AIDS on the continent But these days, Pastor Semper is attracting attention for another reason. This whole battle we are in against homosexuality is a battle between not Martin Semper but God versus the forces of darkness!

1:57:22 So they're playing this music in the background and she goes, then of course everything's in English. I mean even though English is a spoken language in Uganda there are no native speakers anywhere and then they do this clip that really got my goat. They go out into the street and start asking Ugandans what they think And you have to realize, for one thing you don't get hear the Ugandans because they're speaking in some native tongue which means they probably never heard this guy speak. But every one of them... That would be Swahili is the native tongue of Uganda Every one of these guys has something to say which is just essentially parroting Whatever the law is because if you think about Uganda's history, you got your head chopped off If you don't yeah You've got two people roaming around with a camera What are you gonna say except you're gonna spew the party line and then this woman this idiot that works for current She thinks that this is a scandal And in fact she doesn't even discuss the fact that these people can't speak freely and it and even if they could they wouldn't

1:58:21 With the help of Pastor Sempa, Uganda's controversial anti-gay law has become the country's number one issue. I wanted to find out how ordinary Ugandans felt about the bill. So, I headed to the market with a local tour guide named Long John's. You heard that? They have imprisoned them. And you should imprison them? Not kill them! She says the bill should be passed and they should put you to death He thinks homosexuals should be hanged. He's very supportive of the bill with all his heart and mind, yeah When you hear all these people with these very negative views on homosexuality how does it make you feel? It is very confusing You realize that people are... they don't mind whether I am going to jail

1:59:25 Yeah. So what do you think the purpose is of this documentary? Well, since it's running on Current, it doesn't make any difference what the purpose is because nobody watches that channel By that I mean nobody. I don't know, it's to get people up in arms. I just put it out there as a flag thrown up in the air and see who in the months ahead if Uganda crops up on the news and we can do a call back to this but something is screwing about. I think you're right. You know I lived in Uganda and will probably talk about on the same show we talked about your

CHAPTER 25 / 25 Discussion

Joe Biden Naval Academy Speech, Brussels Comparison and Outro

Vice President Joe Biden delivered a commencement speech at the U.S. Naval Academy, emphasizing American ideals and security. This is contrasted with his previous remarks in Brussels, where he suggested that the city, as the capital of the EU and NATO, had a legitimate claim to being the "capital of the free world." The show concludes with a reminder of a special Wednesday night live broadcast due to upcoming travel.

joe biden· naval academy· brussels· european union· nato

2:00:02 your protest against the Vietnam War, because I need to set up the official story. But Uganda has been owned... is purely owned by US interests for many many many years so i agree i think there's probably something going on and somethings gonna happen and maybe we have to go invade because they're against gays I don't think that's it. Why not? We're invading Jamaica because they got a drug dealer That's not even close to possible I don't know. I do have one more clip that might play up because last week we played Biden's basic selling out the USA to Europe, United States of Europe So this week like yesterday or the day before Biden was giving the commencement speech at Annapolis at the Naval Academy Of course that we would have to remind people that The army got Obama and Navy gets Biden

2:01:06 Besides the fact that he's got, he can't deliver a speech. He is very robotic. He is not very interesting but it changes his... I almost am convinced that somebody told him hey what you said in the E you're gonna have to make up for and lost time here at The Navy Academy Alright That is why ultimately the vast majority of the world population Hey! He's doing Martin Luther King Or something Seriously Ultimately That is why Ultimately, the vast majority of the world's population still looks to us for inspiration. Still wishes to repair to our shores. Repair? That is why! Uh that's...repair isn't that like- They want a repair to our shores?! What does THAT mean?? By the way it sounds like he's half in the bag. Hold on. Repair...? Isn't there a um

2:02:06 It does mean something other than to fix doesn't it yeah? I'm sure it does, but I never heard of uses to repair to our shores and why would you say that hmm seems a little haughty let me see Repair haughty this is your new word isn't it To betake to betake oneself to come together and to obsolete Maybe a misusage. I've never heard repair to our shores oh That would be to come back to our shores, I guess wouldn't it? Not necessarily. Let's listen to it again. ...inspiration still wishes to repair to our shores and that is why... Maybe he said shorts and not shores maybe we're just not understanding what he's saying We cannot undermine our strength by compromising those values in the name of security They are ultimately our security

2:03:07 And the broad struggle against violent extremism, upholding our values makes us stronger. Compromising them is what makes us weaker and yielding." So let me state it clearly I reject we reject as false the notion that we have to choose between our safety and our ideals for if we yield on our ideals they will have already won So take off your shoes and shut up, slave! Our ideals are what define us. Our ideals are what sustain us. Our ideals... ...are what make us the greatest nation in the history of mankind And ultimately, ultimately they're a powerful incentive for the world to respond What an honor Courage Commitment I'm tearing up now John. I don't know if I can handle it anymore

2:04:12 It's like, I thought Belgium was the world greatest country last week. No no no it's this week it's America again Not only the values instilled in you here at The Academy these are also the values that define the rest of America. I have met literally every world leader who has been on a world stage since 1973 Yeah right And they have no doubt about...I've never met one who has a doubt about who we are as Americans. Today, today having earned the right to walk through the main doors of Fancroft for the first time you'll leave The Yard and enter a long distinguished line of Naval Academy graduates John LeJeune class of 1888 Chester Nimitz 1905 Arleigh Burke class of 23

2:05:09 Alan Shepard, class of 45. Jimmy Carter, class of 47 John McCain, class of 58 Charles Bolden He deserves a round of applause he's my friend Right now let's just remind everybody As you already know ladies and gentlemen Not only am I pleased to be back here in Brussels for the second time as Vice President, as you probably know some American politicians and American journalists refer to Washington DC as the capital of the free world.

2:05:45 but it seems to me that uh... in this great city which boasts one thousand years of history and which serves as the capital of belgium the home of the european union in the headquarters for nato this city has its own legitimate claim to that title yay for joe and by the way joseph he's been every leaders since nineteen seventy three four some unknown reason is just a senator wasn't a did advice present at the time so that meant That meant he met probably, let's see Mao Zedong and Lin Bao and Zhou Enlai. I don't think so He is well traveled i tell you He is full of crap the guy has always been a liar That's not the garbage truck you hear John that's a predator drone So we're gonna do this show on Wednesday night for people out there who like to listen to it live Oh really? Well thanks for the memo I've told you like two weeks ago I've told you a million times

2:06:41 Oh, you sound like my ex-wife now. I told you, I told you... I told you a million times but that's.. You don't listen No! You said i will need to do it on Wednesday night coming up for some travel. He didn't give me an exact date there was no memo? No the other day we were talking about you had to be in Amsterdam and he said when are going to be here at the end of month okay what is first week of June that we have to do this only on the off nights and so okay well then its not a problem you dont remember that conversation Yes, I do Just saying you sound like my ex-wife. That's why I'm sure she does that kind of a bit too Ah yes, somebody's got to sound like your ex wife. You obviously need discipline

2:07:27 Okay, we'll leave it at that because I don't have enough time to reprimand you for that comment. Coming to you from the hilltop watch tower crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California where the sun is shining beautifully...I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, it's a shining here too I might add It's not only in Los Angeles, it's actually quite nice here in Northern Silicon Valley. I am John C. Dvorak We'll talk to you again on Wednesday night, Thursday for the podcast right here on NO Agenda.