Episode 1906 · Thursday, 24 September 2026

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A massive Hollywood merger triggers state-mandated film quotas while global leaders debate the risks of super intelligence and the rise of the digital Euro.

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The entertainment landscape shifts as Warner Brothers and Paramount move toward a massive October merger under the Ellison family, triggering a controversial settlement from California Attorney General Rob Bonta. This legal agreement mandates the production of 30 annual films and specific blockbuster quotas to protect local jobs, even as media analysts Brian Stelter and Kara Swisher predict widespread layoffs. The deal faces intense political scrutiny from critics who view the settlement as a face-saving measure for the state rather than a victory for the industry.

Global tensions rise as NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte and Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk warn of a Russian sabotage campaign targeting defense factories in Bulgaria and Italy. Simultaneously, the United Nations Security Council held its first formal meeting on super intelligence, where Yoshua Bengio cautioned against the reckless risks taken by a handful of tech giants. In the United States, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry proposed a 90-day ban on diesel exports to stabilize domestic fuel costs, while the European Central Bank unveiled Pontes, a digital Euro platform designed for interbank transactions. Pharmaceutical giants Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly are also facing new legal challenges as lawsuits allege a link between GLP-1 weight-loss drugs and rare vision loss.

Guest co-host Dana Brunetti joins Adam Curry to recount early encounters with an introverted Elon Musk and the logistical nightmares of building a private heliport in Amsterdam. The show explores the bizarre cultural fallout at a Massachusetts lesbian bar where a mask-optional policy led to accusations of eugenics and a three-hour mediated therapy session. Between discussions of FedEx horse transport and AI-generated cinema, the episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for the latest producers in the Value for Value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 23 Discussion

Adam Curry and Dana Brunetti Introduction

Adam Curry introduces guest co-host Dana Brunetti, a former Hollywood producer known for House of Cards and The Social Network. The two discuss Brunetti's transition from the film industry to ranching and his recurring role on the show. They touch upon the competitive nature of guest hosts including Jason Calacanis and Rob Dew.

adam curry· dana brunetti· no agenda· house of cards· social network· podcasting

00:00 Hey, created by Dana Brunetti. Adam Curry. It's Thursday, September 24th, 2026. This is your award-winning Kim On Nation Media Assassination episode 1906. This is No Agenda. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. It is time once again for the best podcast in the universe with one of the best co-hosts in the universe. He is former Mr. Hollywood, Mr. Rancher, Mr. Squirrel Hunter. Coming up in just 50 seconds from now, he will be joining us all. His name is Dana Brunetti. Turn the knob. Click is it on. It is. So now time. The No Agenda Show. The No Agenda Show. That's right. Gather around the old. I'm in you.

00:45 No Agenda. Informational International Hangout begins here now. With your host, the world's podfather, Mr. Adam Curry. Also, today's super special guest co-host coming to us live from his NorCal Ranch Complex, ex-Hollywood Deal Maker. It's Dana Brunetti, all of the best podcasts in the universe. It's time to suck its slaves. Welcome the trolls to the No Agenda Show. All right. Do we do a nice job for our guests or what? Man, that is just so, so nice.

01:27 In the morning to you, Dana. In the morning. I'm changing the song up a little bit. Well, you get a new song each time. That's the beauty. That's the beauty of AI. Oh, well, there's another one at the end of the show, but it was three minutes long. Like, no, that's too long. I can't be playing. You know, I'm a producer. I know what the people want. You're a producer. Not anymore. Not really. Yes, you are. I'm a producer of the No Agenda show. Yeah. I mean, you're texting me like, I got a lot of clips. We're going to play them all. I'm like, no, you're not producing this show. You don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, you said, who's the producer of the show? I said, everyone. Yeah. Yeah,

02:09 to some degree. So, Dana Brunetti, everybody, big, big, former Hollywood bigwig, but he's still, he's actually, he's the biggest Hollywood guy because he left at the pinnacle of his career. Everybody's jealous. Everybody's still sucking up to Harvey Weinstein. Like, oh, man, Brunetti did the right thing. He took the money and got out. House of Cards. I think it's a little hard for them to suck up to Harvey right now. True. Let me just rattle a few off. House of Cards, 50 Shades of Gray, 50 Shades of Gray are the 50 Shades of All the Gray. Captain Phillips, Social Network, all massive hits. And here he is on our No Agenda show. Do you have no life? Is the question?

02:53 Not really. No. That's about all he's going to talk tonight, ladies and gentlemen. He's just going to one-word answers. Yeah, I don't want to be too long-winded. A troll room will go off. No, no, you need to ignore the troll. Okay, so I know. I know. Hold on a second. So you're like an ex an ex aficionado. I see you show up in my algo all the time. You're coming. How do I show up in your how do I show up in your timeline for what or algo? Well, you're posting. That's why you're posting all the time. You got an opinion on this. And then the troll's like, you're awesome. You're like, yeah, I am. You know,

03:37 do I say that? I love the trolls who somehow think that these guest hosts are auditioning. You know, they're like, well, Brunetti's got to be the permanent guest host. Did people not realize that all these people have lives and jobs? And well, you do. But I also, I find it hilarious that I saw somebody wrote that it's kind of like Jeopardy. We're auditioning different hosts between me and Calicanis and Rob Dew.

04:15 And then Jay Cal, I heard him on the last episode talking about how he likes the competition and he just wants to be number one. I know. He's not going to be number one of anything. I think me and Rob, me and Rob Dew should team up and take him. Another thing he was talking about, which I was surprised about, that you didn't know what the 12 stations of the cross were. I did not. I had no idea. Now, why do you know? I was raised Catholic. Really? Oh, there's still hope for you. We can still bring you back. We can bring you back. Here we go. Yeah, we can bring you back, baby. Yeah, it's in your heart. It's in your heart. Okay. No, no, no. Being raised Catholic does not, if anything, it repels you.

04:57 Nothing against the Catholics, but you're still a brave. brother in Christ. At one point, you were there. You just strayed. You are the Protestant. I was there by choice. I was there because I was forced to go to church every Sunday by my father. And as soon as I was old enough to not have to go, I stopped going. Yeah, no, I understand. But in today's church, Dana, we got cool music. We got relatable sermons. It's a whole different deal. Look, come visit us. And I'll do two things. One, you bring Alex, do two things. One. No, that ain't happening. What, Alex? What do you mean? Alex can hang out with Tina. What do you mean that ain't happening?

05:35 Okay. No, no, I thought you meant her going to church. Okay, we'll see. So the first thing we'll do is you and I will go to Ox Ranch. Have you ever heard of Ox Ranch? No, but I feel like you're going to tell me. Yeah, yeah. Bring your credit card at Ox Ranch, and they have their own airstrip. So we'll get Mitch, my periodontist, to fly. Oh, I can just second coming in on the jet. Yeah, sure. Okay. So once you've driven here in your Tesla and stopped eight times to recharge, Ox Ranch, you can rent. Because I could drive all the way there and I have to stop to refuel. Exactly. You can shoot a tank. You can shoot this place.

06:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've shot Uzis and Tommy guns, and it's all full automatic, no nonsense. You will have the flamethrower. I need a picture of you with a flamethrower. I think I have one. I actually have done something similar, but I did it where it wasn't like a touristy type thing. When I was doing Captain Phillips, we used Real Navy SEALs. And when we were in Virginia Beach shooting there, which is very close to the old Blackwater facility, which is at the time was called Academy. I don't know what it's called now, but I got to go to the Z now, isn't it? Well, I think it is. It was Academy. It was Z and then I think they changed the name quite often.

07:03 Anyways, a couple of my buddies were Plink. And I'm friendly with Eric Prince as well. So I got to go there and do all those things and more. Well, okay. So then what else you got? We'll see. And then we'll go to church on Sunday morning. You'll have a blast. Oh, okay. You'll come. I know. You'll come. So you once, now you are, we are so similar in so many ways, which is kind of interesting, except for, you know, you were successful and I always remained a VJ. I think you owned a castle and a couple helicopters and blew through millions of dollars.

07:44 It's all fleeting. I think I might have just been better with the management of my money. It's all fleeting, Dana. It's all fleeting. You can't take it with you. I'm telling you. You can't take it. Oh, I know that. By the way, can we bleep this out so my wife doesn't hear this? Because she'll use that all the time. I'm not taking it with you. There's no editing. There's no editing on no agenda. We don't bleep anything. There's plenty of editing. No, there's never. What are you talking about? I know, I know. I'm just never editing. I've had a lot of coffee, so I might get a little rambunctious. That's good. So we're both nerds. We're both way into programming our robots.

CHAPTER 02 / 23 Discussion

Warner Brothers and Paramount Mega Merger Analysis

The discussion centers on the potential merger between Warner Brothers and Paramount, highlighting the involvement of the Ellison family. Analysis focuses on the value of legacy studio catalogs for streaming services and the political pushback against Larry Ellison. The conversation explores the possibility of studios moving operations from California to states like Tennessee or Texas to avoid high taxes.

warner brothers· paramount· larry ellison· david ellison· streaming· intellectual property

08:25 And I haven't listened to your clips, obviously, but clearly you have a robot working for you because you brought a lot of clips. But this is an interesting day to have you on the show because, and most people don't really care about this, I think. Maybe California cares about it. I'm sure the Hollywood movie people care about it. But this big mega. And the liberals really care about it. Well, interesting. So this is the mega merger between Warner Brothers and Paramount. And I think the reason liberals, as you call them, why don't you just call them Democrats?

09:10 What's the difference? They really hate the whole Ellison family. And that's probably the main thing. And why? And why do they hate them? A couple of reasons. One, Larry Ellison is a rich. He's super rich. He's friends with Trump. He's in the data business. I actually think he's an incredible douche for when the Stargate program was announced. And he's like, oh, everyone's going to be on their best behavior because the drones will watch you. I was like, okay, you're a douchebag. And he's a huge supporter of Israel. So that's like five strikes. You're out. So they hate him for that.

09:53 You want to hear an interesting. interesting tidbit from my wife's stepfather, Larry Ellison, bought his island from him. Wait a minute. So Alex is the one with the money? This is interesting. Now we're getting to the bottom of things. I said her stepfather. Okay. Yeah. So she doesn't have it. And he doesn't have it anymore now because he's dead. And then he left it all to some foundation. Oh, that's what I'm going to do. I keep telling our daughters. I'm like, we're on operations. We're on operation spend down. You know, you're going to have this house and good luck with the taxes and the inheritance.

10:32 You're going to leave them just a tax bill. That's what I got. My dad had a couple of loans. Like, yeah, no, I'm not going to take that. Thank you very much. So give us the layout. Why is this such a big deal? Why? Well, yeah, you come from the business. I think you saw. I have my thoughts about it. We'll get to it. I also have clips, but I'm going to let you drive this segment because I think it is there is something important going on here for a number of reasons, but I want to hear your take and I'm going to let you drive it. Okay. I'm taking the wheel and putting it into full self-driving.

11:13 So let me back up. Talking about these clips for a second. One thing I've realized grabbing these clips is this is a very difficult job because literally as I'm clipping them, the news is changing in real time, obviously. And everything that I clipped on one day is completely irrelevant the next morning. And then everything I clipped yesterday is kind of irrelevant this morning. So we're going to kind of have to jump around a little bit. But so the Paramount merger, I have mixed feelings on it, but it's all pro-merger.

11:53 A good friend of mine, he runs Warner Brothers, which is getting bought out, but he also ran MGM and Amazon bought them out. And then before that, he was at, I can't remember where. Oh, he was at Sony before that. Who is this good friend? Do I put a name to him? Sure, Mike DeLuca. Oh, okay. Yeah. And you also ran a studio for like a week at one point. I ran a bankrupt studio. Relativity? Yeah. I came in, I think it was its second bankruptcy. And supposedly they had funding. And it turned out that wasn't the reality. And I ended up being there for a couple of months and then bounced. But yeah, I was the head of a studio for a very short period of time. But

12:38 just go back to, I didn't even think of this, but if you just look at the two studios, MGM, that was bought by Amazon. Prior to that, it was bought by Sony. It's like the red-headed stepchild is lately. Let me ask you some questions as we go along. Why does anybody want to buy a studio? I presume it's only for the existing content and intellectual property they have for the catalog. Right. And that, in my mind, these days is only valuable for streaming. Well, streaming and the IP for remakes, which I'm not a fan of, but the audience seems to be a fan of. Boring stuff. And toys and happy meal toys and other licensing.

13:21 Yeah. If they're doing it, it's to make money in some capacity or another, obviously. What's beeping? I don't hear anything beeping. That's on your own. I'm getting something. Okay. That's your full self-drive about to crash into something. No, it's a, yeah. I'm going to do that. If I do the show again, I'm going to do it from the car at some point. While you're driving. Because it'll get rid of the echo as well. Yeah, it will. It's better than it was. Okay. All right. Let's stay on track. So Amazon bought out MGM. That's this one recent one we're talking about. Disney bought out Marvel. Disney bought out Fox. All these studios, Warner Brothers has bought out many in the past.

14:06 They've all done different mergers. Sony bought MGM at one time and a couple others. Sony bought Columbia Pictures. Was there ever the, did you even know about it? Was there ever like this much pushback? Was there people like this protesting? Were the 12 states suing to stop it? No, no. Okay. So fair point. That's because people hate Ellison, but also they were, I think David Ellison, the son, was saying, well, I think I'm going to move to Nashville. Well, that only started after Bonta came after him. He's the Attorney General in California. Correct. Yeah. And there was all the pushback on it.

14:48 So look. I still think that he's going to leave after the deal is done. I think that he would be smart to do so. I would hate it because I still own property in LA and live in the state and would be horrible for the state. But the state is making it so difficult for anybody with a decent business that doesn't follow their same political beliefs to survive here. I mean, it's happened with Elon and with Tesla. That's why he's in Texas now and starting to build out there. He basically packed up and left. They still manufacture and they have facilities here.

15:26 And there's been, look at the price of diesel in California. I know it's high all over the country, but Newsome drove out the refineries and just basically like, oh, yeah, I'm going to call their. The place is so corrupt. It's so backwards that for a studio. So if you think about it, so anything that they made previously, this is part of why I'm still in California, but I'm in Northern California. It's because when I decided I was going to exit Hollywood, I started looking at Texas. I started looking in Florida. I started looking in Arizona. I started looking at places where the taxes are cheaper. My business manager, I think I explained this the last time, explained to me, hey, your taxes are going to follow you on everything that you've already made because it originated in California.

16:12 So to say it would be true for any studio, any profits they get from films prior to their exit, that would be still taxed in California. How is that? That sounds un-American to me. That sounds odd. So all future earnings of intellectual property, you have to pay taxes in California? If it originated here. So like when I get my checks for films that I've done in the past, they still get taxed. So if I was living in Texas, you know, next door to you, and I got my nice check that I randomly get occasionally, we call mailbox money, it would still be taxed by California.

16:55 Wow. Even though I lived in, and because it was, it originated here in California. Now, if I was living in California and we do the Adam Curry film and I'm already, I'm already in Texas and, you know, the 50 cents we make on that, I would have to, you know, that I'd get to keep all of that. No, no, you have to give five cents to my church. You don't understand. It's like also I'm taxed by the church rather than the state. You're tithing, tithing, my brother. So, so it would be silly for, and I think it would, if and when Paramount leaves and goes either to Austin or to Nashville,

17:35 it would make complete sense. Because if you think that if you have $100 million in profit on one film and they're paying, what, 13% in tax to the state, that's $13 million just on that one film that they're saving. And then if you put that across all the films and all the business that they're doing from that point forward and how much they end up making on that, that's a huge bit of money. And if Paramount did that, I think it would create a waterfall of all the studios starting to be like, hey, what are we doing? It's the same as production. And this drives me crazy too, where they say, well, if Paramount leaves and goes to Tennessee or goes to Texas, all those people are, they're not going to get up and move to Tennessee out into the sticks and move out there, these elitists and

18:22 LA and other places. Hello, look at New Mexico's film market. Look at Atlanta. Where did I shoot all of 50 Shades of Gray? Those all shot in Vancouver, Canada. There's no monopoly on where you can do business and much less where you can do film. LA does not have the monopoly on it, and LA blew it. And I think that's part of what they're starting to realize: like, oh, hey, we don't control the town. We don't control this business. And I think that's part of why they have this resolution now.

CHAPTER 03 / 23 Discussion

California Attorney General Rob Bonta Settlement Terms

California Attorney General Rob Bonta announced a settlement regarding the Paramount merger that requires an increase in domestic production. The terms mandate the release of 30 films annually, with specific requirements for independent films and guaranteed "blockbusters." Critics and protesters outside studio gates express frustration, claiming the agreement only offers temporary protections for California jobs.

rob bonta· paramount· hollywood· film production· blockbusters· california

18:59 But I think it's too little too late. You know, the thing that surprised me when I heard Bonta speak, and I'm going to just jump the cue here, is that only 5% of the movies are made in California. So some more details about the settlement, the terms. With this settlement, Paramount has made an enforceable commitment to significantly increase domestic production, production in the United States, and necessarily production right here in LA, in Hollywood. More jobs, more economic activity, better for workers, more output when it comes to movies. Today, we know that the vast majority of the company's global production takes place abroad.

19:42 And only a small fraction, about 5%. only of the company's films are made here in this country, in the United States. With today's settlement, Paramount is required to move production back to the United States by spending, as a floor, at least $300 million more each year in domestic production, in jobs, and economic activity and productions right here in this country, and including, of course, in this state. The company will also produce 30 movies in each of the first two years of the deal, and then 32 movies in each of the following three years. So it is tiered. 30 movies released in each of the first two years, then 32 in the back three.

20:27 Each year, at least four of those films must be independent films to provide more variety of perspectives, more storytelling, more original insight and inspiration from our indie filmmakers. And at least 20% of those must be blockbusters. That's the thing that got me. Okay. 20%. It must be blockbusters. It has to be. How can you do it? How can you predict the blockbuster? Like, we've clients. They'd be like, I want to pay for a viral video. Good luck. That's not how it works. It just shows how stupid they are. They don't understand what they're talking about. It's like, oh, we have to guarantee that it's a blockbuster.

21:04 Well, you can't guarantee. That's why it's called a blockbuster. It's so asinine, but it's like watching a circus. I'm loving it. And they're now, there's these people that are protesting outside of Paramount and Warner Brothers trying to block the merger. I don't know if you saw this morning. A judge has now delayed it, but they now think that that's a huge win. All it does is it gives them the ability to be heard, and they have to get their complaints in by, I think it's 12 on Friday, 12 a.m. Friday. And then so the judge can read over before she, so she just doesn't rubber stamp it.

21:41 But I don't think it's going to stop it. And if you want to play the Paramount merger protests, and we can stop because it goes into a little bit of what you just played, but at least you can hear the first bit of these people whining outside. Outrage online, as well as outside the Paramount Studio Gates on Melrose. I will never, ever work for these people. Ever. The target David Ellison, the head of Paramount, who is called from his tech giant father, Larry Ellison, muscled through a settlement with the state of California over his purchase of Warner Brothers Studios and the largest merger of mass media from film, television, streaming, and news content in the history of Hollywood. The terms of this settlement at this moment in our nation's history will be extraordinarily damaging.

22:26 Opponents argue commitments by Ellison for 30 films a year and keeping the studios in California are temporary agreements that will expire in five years and that the indebtedness of the new company will guarantee job loss. But the anger wasn't just at the deal itself. I personally will make it my mission to make sure Gavin Newsom never becomes president. Opponents of the merger say they feel betrayed. I am deeply, deeply disappointed and pissed off at Rob Bonta, Gavin Newsom, and Karen Bass. They're now turning on each other. They're caving and leaving us in the dust.

23:08 I feel duped because I really truly believe our Attorney General Rob Bonta. I drank the Kool-Aid. This was California Attorney General Rob Bonta a month ago. Okay, you can stop there. Okay. So that kind of goes into what you already played. But at least they are having some self-realization that they drink a Kool-Aid and that they were duped. And maybe they'll start to wake up to some of the other things that they've drank a Kool-Aid on and were duped on. But let me ask you an overall question. Does it even matter? I mean, yeah, I get it for the IP and for the catalog, but the ship is. Hold on. Let me pause you there and come back to that because it doesn't matter. But can we, because I want to get, are you going to AI?

CHAPTER 04 / 23 Discussion

Media Industry Reactions and CNN Future

Media analysts Brian Stelter and Kara Swisher react to the impending October merger, with Swisher expressing a desire to exit her contract. The discussion covers David Ellison's potential plans to shift CNN toward a more centrist, factual news approach. Commentator Clay Travis suggests the merger could balance the media landscape similarly to Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter.

brian stelter· kara swisher· cnn· david ellison· clay travis· hbo

23:51 I am. Well, that's, we'll get that. We'll get to that at the end. But I mean, go. I mean, you've got Stelter, you've got Spike Lee, you've got. Okay. You've got to go. So go ahead. Listen to Stelter on this and tell me if he doesn't sound a little bit nervous. Paramount and Warner now do expect this $110 billion merger to take effect in early October. I'm told this will not be done this week, but it will be done in the next couple of weeks, unless there's any surprises. No one's expecting that at this point. So now that the state AGs have agreed to settle, a judge will sign off on the settlement and then Paramount CEO David Ellison will take control of HBO, Warner, CNN, and all those other assets, I'm told, in early October.

24:33 Yeah, and there's a couple things because it's not just the movie studios, it's cable channels, it's cable networks. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot in this deal, and none of that, none of that feels like the future to me. And none of it. No, it doesn't, but wait, it gets better. So, the best news has come out of this. Go ahead and play Kara. Yes, this is my favorite. In any case, no, my contract. I was just literally reading my contract today. As you might imagine when this news struck, because I threatened to leave, and I have asked my agent to get me out of my contract. It ends December 31st, so it's only a few months, right? I'm just, I just can't. I just, I thought, like, I was trying to figure out ways I could work with them in some like licensing way, but then I thought, fuck these guys.

25:17 I don't know. I just don't. I got too much to do with you, Scott Galloway. I like, I, I'm and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Let me give you a little inside scoop here. Oh, he's the professor. I think there's a decent likelihood when you show up to whoever it is, you show up to at CNN and say, I want out of my contract, jump up and say, congratulations, no problem. No, not at all. You're wrong. I know you think that. I know you'd like to run me down. I'll miss you. No. Best of luck. No, maybe the Ellisons, that's for sure. But nothing. Very nicely. They're trying to kind of keep me. Yeah, they want to keep me. They need me. I'm important. I'm a ratings bonanza. CNN is not a ratings bonanza. Okay. Yeah, they're trying to keep it.

26:00 And what exactly is this contract? I mean, a couple hundred grand, maybe. It expires in December. It's a couple months away. So it's like, please. Yeah. And this is a clip that I found. I don't listen to him. I guess it's like a sports guy, but Clay Travis, I think he sums it up nicely. And it will for Rush Limbaugh with the other guy, Clay. And there's two guys. So he's a good radio guy. The 12 Democrat attorney generals who had been opposing the merger between Paramount and Warner Brothers have essentially announced, hey, we're giving up. And they have agreed that Paramount is able to buy now Warner Brothers.

26:42 Why does this matter? David Ellison, who is going to own a combined Paramount and Warner Brothers, has said something radical. Hey, I want CNN to just be a middle-of-the-road news network designed to actually cover in a factual and truthful way. You can have good news. Hallelujah. This is significant. Okay. Twitter being bought by Elon Musk, I believe, was the most significant media move of the 21st century because all it did was just make Twitter fair. You can go find whatever news you want on Twitter. You can see us talking about anything under the sun.

27:23 It just stopped it from being a far left-wing news organization. The reason why these 12 attorney generals were suing was because they didn't want CNN to be a fair news organization because combined with Twitter and CNN and certainly Fox News and The Wall Street Journal and the New York Post and Outkick and Sport and State, if we just have a lot of sane sports and cultural news organizations, it makes it far harder to rig the game like MSNBC, The Washington Post historically, the New York Times and CNN have done. Yeah, maybe. Well, only we care. They're message setters.

28:07 That's about it. They just set the message. They create clips that we can share everywhere and either love it or laugh at it. Right. And it's CBS news. You know, that's that's a part of the deal. You know, that's already become so horrible. I don't know. It's horrible. It's always been horrible. I don't think it got any better with Barry Weiss. But well, other than the Democrats hate it now. But so all of that said, and I want to circle back to that in a second about something he said there, but finish up with where there's two more. Play the last Bonta one, the antitrust. Oh, hold on a second. Antitrust.

CHAPTER 05 / 23 Discussion

Antitrust Concerns and Entertainment Sector Layoffs

The settlement of the Paramount antitrust case is criticized as being politically motivated rather than a strict legal victory. Experts predict significant layoffs in the entertainment sector due to back-office consolidation between Warner Brothers Discovery and Paramount. Director Spike Lee declines to comment on the merger, suggesting established creators avoid criticizing the few remaining major studios.

antitrust· rob bonta· spike lee· layoffs· movie studios· consolidation

28:46 Yes. At the end of the day, though, this was an antitrust case, plain and simple. I have said before, I'll say it again. This is just a black and white meat and potatoes antitrust case. Okay. That is such BS. This was nothing but political. Everybody knows it. If it was just an antitrust case, why did they resolve it? Why did it get settled? Nothing is different. The things that are in that resolution, 30 films a year, that's nothing. Warner Brothers is already doing over 15 a year, so is Paramount. And then they can also just buy films, and they even point it out, independent films.

29:28 So they can go and buy the Adam Curry film that we're going to do and give us $5 million for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go, right? And then that, that, don't move. Don't move. Stay in town. You got to do some deals. Yes. Well, and that's kind of. I'm not in town. I live in Northern California. I'm very far away from Carwheel Drive. Your car will drive you there. But $300 million doesn't seem like a lot of money in movie business. I mean, it's not scratching. It's $300 million. I mean, there's been film budgets that have been that high, I think. So it's in the penalty if they don't meet that, it's $30 million per film.

30:08 So what they're going to do, it's actually, I think it's great for smaller films because if they have to do that, they're going to just buy up some films to meet that. And they're not going to pay $30 million for them. They'll buy them for a million or two million and be like, all right, let's throw them in theaters and see what happens. Or this. I think that people are looking at the settlement that Robanta got and not super thrilled with it. For instance, the big point about they have to release 30 films a year in theaters. If you look at the fine print, they do have to release 30 films, but they can co-produce half of them. So they only really have to release 15 films on their own, and then they can co-produce the other half and get those in the theaters to satisfy that requirement.

30:49 Ultimately, Jeff, this is going to result in a lot of layoffs in the entertainment sector. And that's going to happen because there's going to be a lot of synergies between Warner Brother Discovery and Paramount, the back offices, you know, people who support communications and publicity, people who support HR jobs, legal jobs. Those jobs, I would imagine, would be almost immediately consolidated. And you're going to see a number of layoffs. And then it's going to just continue. Yeah, exactly. I think that's a horrible argument that they keep using. Yeah, of course there's going to be layoffs because it's a consolidation. But it's also if the two studios are struggling or it's like, okay, so we're going to have we're going to have all these jobs, but the business is going to struggle.

31:34 The better the business can do, the more jobs it's going to create, the more productions it's going to put off. Then I think it's just the survival of the fittest. But in California, survival of the fittest is racist or it's, you know, it's, you know, it's whatever. It's like, you know, we got, you know, everybody's got to be equal, and we can't have that. But I'll end it, and then we'll kind of divert into, but again, the wisest guy, just like when I was doing Clacey Lancey, the holdout juror, the wisest guy is always the black guy. Play Spike Lee. What the Warner Brothers thing? I ain't got nothing to say about that.

32:21 I got to make some movies. If you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, that was. I know what he's talking about. He's no dummy. He's like, yeah, I'm not going to be bitching about Paramount or the Ellisons and basically remove myself from one of the... So they're worried about there only being four studios or five studios, whatever it is. But like, oh, wait, you want to come work for us now? And you were the one out there protesting, trying to stop this merger? No, thanks. Exactly. Spike Lee's no dummy. So I'll take it to the end game here. This came from CNBC. AI getting in on the movie making business. Production company Fountain Zero releasing its latest AI film this month, Odysseus the Fall.

CHAPTER 06 / 23 Discussion

AI Film Production and Future of Entertainment

Fountain Zero chairman Tom Rogers discusses the AI-generated film Odysseus the Fall, produced for under $25,000. The conversation shifts to a future where AI renders personalized content for consumers on demand based on specific prompts. A host describes using AI models to develop an audio drama based on The Land of Far Beyond, illustrating the rapid evolution of creative tools.

fountain zero· artificial intelligence· odysseus the fall· tom rogers· grok· filmmaking

33:03 It was produced at a fraction of the cost of traditional big budget films by using artificial intelligence in every scene and image. Media Mogul and CNBC contributor Tom Rogers is the executive chairman of Fountain Zero. Tom is also senior advisor to our parent company, Versant Media, and the former NBC cable president, friend of the show as well. Friend of this film. Tom, always good to see you. Thanks for having me. We've talked about this movie before. We've shown clips. It's extraordinary. I don't know if ordinary people would see it and think this is AI generated. What have you found in the process of doing this, though, in terms of how the movie industry will be changed by AI?

33:41 Well, when I was on last time, we showed video from our first film, which premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival called Dreams of Violets. This is a two and a half hour spectacle, Odysseus the Fall, which is another way of telling the story of the Odyssey. And what's remarkable about this is that it was one guy with his computer working at night for just under $25,000 that created this film. I'm not saying anybody would like it quite as much as the Nolan version of The Odyssey, but when you look at this, you're looking at the future of filmmaking and how big budget Hollywood productions can be done at a tiny, tiny fraction.

34:29 fraction of the cost. All right, Danny Brunetti. Yep. Yep. So there was a post that I saw. There wasn't a clip, but and I don't know if it's true or not. And I reposted it that it would be a game changer if so. But it's the AI studio for Grok, I guess. Yeah, I saw that you, this is one of the posts I saw. You said, if true, game changer. Well, that's true. Yes. It says the pitch, you pitch a brief, you brief a director, it writes a script, casts, shoots, takes cuts, timeline, bullets, and posts, direct a video, storyboard, cast, basically soup to nuts.

35:12 So here's where I think the future. Are you ready for this? I'm a prediction of the future of the entertainment. All right, go get the kids, everybody. Here he comes. The future, you're going to sit in the not too distant future. You're going to sit on your couch at night and you're going to have your bot and you're going to say, hey, I have 33 minutes to watch a show. And it's going to give you a list of options. What would you, a comedy drama, or what, or, or a, because it's going to know you already, do you want to continue this show that we were doing? Do you want this character? How would you like this character to go? And then you're going to have just different things that you're going to select.

35:50 And then it's going to render out a show that fits into that time period that's going to be tailored and customized just for you. And the same thing is going to be for films or a TV and film is just going to blend into one. And it's going to be based on what you just ask it for. And that's going to happen a lot sooner than people think. I think you're completely right. And I'll just give you an example. I woke up like two weeks ago. I was like, you know, there's this story I read as a kid, which was now the original, so it was Enid Blyton, The Land of Far Beyond. And the book was written in 1942.

36:30 You know, Enid Blyton wrote a lot of kids' stories. I forget which ones, but certainly in Europe. But I read it in the States. My parents were. We talked about this on the last show I was on. Did we? Yeah, and then you had it read it to you. Well, yeah, but just okay. So it's, and it's based on the Pilgrim's Progress, which is from 1678, public domain. And I'll just reiterate it because a lot of what you said already happened. And I said, I want to turn this into. Oh, you're trying to take credit for this idea now. Yes, of course. I'm the pod father. So I said, okay, I want to, I initially said, I want to turn this into a movie. So give me cast. I didn't even say that. I said, let's do that. And it created cast.

37:14 It had cast cards, I guess is what they're called. So I had a card for each cast member. It had names. It changed the story, you know, so that the idea was the same, but it wasn't blatant ripoff of anybody. And the story is, you know, it's a biblical story in disguise. And I actually loaded a model here locally to have it start render stuff. That it was okay, you know, wasn't that great. So I said, well, let's just do an audio drama. Unbelievable. It did all of it. All of that stuff it did. Now, it didn't just magically appear while I'm sitting on the couch, but for sure, that's where it's going.

37:52 But won't that you as a movie producer, won't that just won't that become boring and dull where there's no serendipity in your control of everything and there's no surprises? Well, I'm not really in the business anymore, but as a stop, stop. Okay. But as a consumer, I think it's fantastic and amazing. It's like it's, it's, you could ask the same thing to a coder, like when you're vibe coding all the things that are running your system right now, and you could go to a coder, but doesn't it take away from that and the ability? Well, yeah, there's, there's a true art and talent. You nailed it. You're nailing it.

38:30 You're exactly. Thank you. My friends who are excellent software developers, who, by the way, have two friends I have, they've kind of, they've waved the white flag on this. They were struggling. They were hating it. They're like, yeah. And meanwhile, I'm like, I'm like that cat hammering on the keyboard. I'm like creating. So yeah, you're okay. Point, point made, point taken. I've created stuff exactly the way I want it. If I want to change it, I alter it. It's not quite the same as a movie production, but your point, I think, is well made. But aren't you getting much more enjoyment out of it because it's something you did that you're and it's unique to you? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I am. But I also know what I want and I know what works.

39:15 And I don't know if I, I guess if I said I want a surprise twist ending, you know, like the dude's a girl, you know, something like that. What was that movie? What was that? that movie? Put some DEI in this. What was that? What was it? What was that movie where everyone's like, oh, I can't tell you the ending? It was about 20 years ago. It was a Chinese Chinese woman, and she turned out to be a dude. Like Madam Butterfly. That's the crying game. The crying game. Thank you. There. You just spoiled it for everybody. I never saw it. I've known about it. I never saw it either. I have no desire to watch this movie. Yeah. Okay. So, oh. So, where does that leave us?

39:55 Our movie. We're just going to do it on our computers. You're talking about your story, the Adam Curry movie? Yeah, we don't do this in AI. We're nuts. We are both idiots. But can we still get the $5 million budget? We might be able to if we work fast enough. We only got a few years where they have to make 30 million or 30 movies a year for was it the first two years and then 32 we got five years we got five years yeah so we might just make it we'll have this thing done in five months what are you talking about this is five months at the speed of ai right now and as quick it'll be done in in uh five weeks if we really if we really buckle down yeah wow that's what a what a world we live in dan brunetti what a world we live in exciting i love it but

CHAPTER 07 / 23 Discussion

AI Model Saturation and Consumer Adoption

The discussion explores whether AI development has reached a "peak model" phase where updates become incremental, similar to annual iPhone releases. The hosts discuss the "Muse" AI app and its adoption by non-technical users for tasks like price comparison and luxury item appraisal. They debate whether AI-driven comparison shopping will hurt or help Amazon's retail monopoly.

ai models· iphone· muse· grok· amazon· consumer behavior

40:44 i i am going to become an ai doomer where the the the speed that this stuff is is moving is fascinating and i we are in early early early days of ai so can you imagine in 10 years where we will be with it and what it will be doing maybe this is this is the thing i'm not so sure about i i think this whole slowdown is they've reached peak model uh and i don't know if they can well the new models yeah i have it seems like something there's something going on where i mean you've seen the upgrades like oh now we have you know five point opus 5.5

41:24 what's the difference uh it just costs less okay 20 less cost but it's not really yeah when they all had it's it's like a new iphone every you know every year well you're making my point for me it's boring there's nothing new and exciting about a new iphone oh it folds but but it but okay but if you take it if if you take it back to the iphone 10 i don't even know what generation we're 18 i think now if you go back to the iphone 10 and you hold them side by side it's like yeah but it's incremental small little things that an iPhone today compared to an iPhone four years or five years ago is

42:02 it's tremendously better and and so much different but it's so it's such small subtle changes that are made over time that it it AI is doing that but it's doing it so much faster it seems like there's a new model that comes out every other day and if you're not eating living and breathing AI you fall behind like we were just talking about Grokbot the last time I was on the show and how amazing that is and and it still is and I think it's incredible but now if you look at the App Store the number one it's Muse Muse and Grokbot is like 168 or something I think I think Muse I got Tina on Muse yesterday I said you know because Tina's all whenever here's how Tina Tina is my canary in the coal mine I've told this story a couple times she she'll say well why would anyone ever want to

42:54 and and her history is why would anyone ever want to use an ATM that makes no sense to me the second one was why would anyone ever want to make a phone call from the street so whenever she says why would I ever want to I'm always delighted like oh this is going to be a big success and and I finally wait explain that again why would anybody want to use an ATM did you're saying that or Tina said that Tina said Tina said that she said back in the day before I knew her like I was the person who said why would anyone ever want to use a an ATM makes no sense well would you well and and what would you use then why are you trying to be logical about this this that's the whole point I'm just I'm completely why why would you ever want to make

43:34 a phone call from the street you know so you and I understood it we're like I'm in my car I'm a baller look at me with my big with this big brick against my head of course um so she really didn't think much of the robots but then I said you've got to try muse please try muse and it was fascinating watching her because I only got muse the other day and I like it because it's first of all it doesn't talk to you it's a text it doesn't have text thread it's not trying to be your buddy it's not sucking up the whole time it just does stuff and it's the same basic concept as manus a rockbot or grokbot where you have a computer in the cloud which of course is an

44:13 abstraction and ultimately you know that's all going to come to your device so that that's what you and I are talking about But for the Grokbach comes to your Tesla now. So it's quote-unquote normies who will like, oh, I can use this. And I saw her, you know, she wanted to do price comparison for some plane tickets to New York. And she's like, wow, this is really cool. Then what she did next. So someone had given her a dress. And it didn't, it was if it fit or not was not the point. It just wasn't, you know, a lot of yellow and green. She's like, no, I'm not going to wear this. But it's a designer dress. So she took a picture and she said, what is this thing worth? Well, between $400 and $1,100.

44:55 And she said, well, can I sell it somewhere? Yeah, here's consignment shop. Now, now she's understanding how cool this is and doing arbitrage between different services, which of course is immediately what Amazon is. This is the stuff that I love. Amazon is realizing like, holy crap, we can't have this thing connecting to Amazon because now people are going to be able to comparison shop and we're going to lose sales and lose the opportunity to flash other things on the screen while you're doing it. I disagree. I think that'll be advantageous, Amazon, because it'll increase sales. It'll help people discover things that they wouldn't have necessarily known about or been able to access before.

45:41 From other vendors. Yeah, but Amazon, I mean, you want to talk about monopoly. Amazon has the monopoly on it. They just make it so easy. And I mean, I get like agitated. I'm like, what do you mean I can't get this tomorrow? I got to wait till Saturday to get this. You know who I am? I'm Dana Brunetti Nibett. No, but I'm on a ranch in the middle of nowhere, and I can get pretty much anything next day or even deliver between 4 and 8, which is a problem for Amazon, particularly in the area I live, because I think, and here's another horrible prediction from me: somebody's going to

CHAPTER 08 / 23 Discussion

UN General Assembly and Super Intelligence Terminology

The United Nations Security Council held its first meeting on AI, where leaders discussed the risks of "super intelligence." The term "artificial intelligence" is criticized by some as sounding fake, leading to a preference for "super intelligence" in official documents. Panelists like Yashua Bengio warned that a handful of companies and countries are taking reckless risks with humanity's fate.

united nations· super intelligence· yashua bengio· ai regulation· china· security council

46:19 get shot because they show up at 4 in the morning at my front door, drop in a couple times. It's startled me with the dogs going crazy. And so, anyways, I digress. So I was looking at some videos of Zuckerberg selling this thing. I'm like, okay, before I even got it, show me what it is. And I hear Zuckerberg saying, this is super intelligence. Now, there is a term out there called artificial superintelligence and artificial general intelligence, all this nonsense. And I was like, okay, called super intelligence. But then I heard our president at the United Nations.

46:58 The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct a globalist scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being spoken of so much now. Here and after officially called super intelligence. Changing the name. And that the use of the word artificial makes intelligence fake. It makes it sound fake. And it is not fake. It's actually. He kind of has a point. No, he's perfect. Amazing. Amazing. But we have to be careful. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what it purports.

47:34 From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the worlds will be changed to use the much more accurate term super, as opposed to I'm surprised they didn't call it American intelligence. I mean, that's the president call it Trump intelligence. TI. TI. Exactly. That would have been so much better. But this was a big conversation over there with the Muckety Mucks at UN, and no one, including the president, really understands what this is. The Security Council held its first ever UN General Assembly AI meeting, including warnings from American AI leaders. No one person or company or country should be able to use the most powerful AI models to impose that.

48:14 But in this chamber, the flawed, but still only international body whose resolutions are legally binding, it fell to the co-chair of the UN's independent AI panel, Yashua Bengio, to warn the world it must police AI companies and issue a clarion call for collaboration. Today, a handful of companies and countries are acting in their self-interest by taking reckless risks with humanity's fate. Our future, all of us, our future is at stake. Decisions that affect us all should be made by us all. No. The choice is still ours, but we must act now to correct the trajectory of

48:58 what country is that guy from? Not the U.S., though, right? No, no, no, no, no. Is he from China or any country? Is there a large language model or an AI company that is a frontier model coming out of his country? his country. Hold on a second. Give me a moment. I'll tell you who that was who was speaking. That was. The answer is no. No. No, the answer is. Because if it's not the U.S. or China, or what other, is there another country I'm not thinking of? Somebody correct me. The troll room could correct me. What countries control or have the companies? Because I know Canada, they were sticking their nose in it, and they don't have a company with a frontier model that I'm aware of.

49:43 So it's Anthropic, OpenAI, Grok, DeepSeek, and then all of the Chinese companies from my knowledge. Now, somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. So are we going and telling the French how to make wine? Well, apparently they need some help because the wine sales are down. In transition. They are big time in transition. So now, of course, not a single, you and I have a grasp on this. And I'm always dismayed and kind of sad at people younger than me. And that's pretty much everybody in the troll room. How anti-AI they are. I'm sorry, TI.

CHAPTER 09 / 23 Discussion

Pro-Human Assembly and AI Legislative Debates

Congressman Chip Roy and Senator Bernie Sanders appeared at a "Pro-Human Assembly" organized by Steve Bannon to discuss AI regulation. Roy argues against new regulations, suggesting that existing cybersecurity and liability laws should be applied to tech companies first. NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang is cited as supporting the application of current laws rather than creating a "doomsday narrative" to justify new restrictions.

steve bannon· chip roy· bernie sanders· jensen huang· nvidia· pro-human assembly

50:23 You and I are just going to TI. I think Trump intelligence is great. How anti-TI is. In the control room, somebody says Canada has AI. AI, eh? AIA. It's like no one really understands it. No one. And I was, except for smart political people. And which ones are those? Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon is he's he goes wherever now you're really doing it now he goes wherever the wind blows but he knows how to leverage any kind of conversation for political gain and so he organized this this uh humans only conference or for humans only and you know the fact that you know so they had uh bernie sanders

51:15 there greg kazar who used to be a city councilman in austin and is like a communist he's a horrible guy horrible man yeah he's a horrible man and and also there was my representative who i've always had some issues with he's a nice guy but chip roy so chip roy you know he he goes on cnbc of all places chip roy and uh here's some of what came out of it lawmakers are debating how to handle the risk of ai after stark warnings from our tech leaders our next guest just spoke at the pro-human assembly oh pro-human assembly there you

51:52 go it's a division of the the human fund i believe of george costanza uh no the pro-humanists are urging congress to take action good line good line from joe i love joe he's great joining us now texas republican congressman uh chip roy and congressman i i saw you we were together in makeup which i'm not i'm not afraid to say just briefly and so it was a bernie sanders was there and steve bannon and you were there as well they're making the rounds today and i immediately i wasn't uh criticizing it but i i started needling you a little making the rounds today is bernie sanders six years ago

52:30 at the debate yeah climate change at that point six years were toast right it's it's making the rounds on social media i don't know what how he wanted to regulate that but you want to regulate ai like bernie sanders wants to if democrats take the house these are the people you want regulating ai well first of all we don't want democrats taking the house second of all i don't want to regulate anything right i'm a free market conservative i'm a limited government conservative what i want is our answers what i want is for the big tech companies who are sitting here saying oh my god we got to do this to beat china and all the people in washington saying we got to do this to beat china yeah where are the big tech companies right now they're giving china the very technology

53:10 that they're using to beat us okay so you can't have it both ways that's so this is so typical oh china now it's china and trump does that too china i don't want china can't have china accelerating so what's wrong with that though what's with pushing back and and saying that um we don't want china taking the lead because it's bull crap you and i are taking the lead we've got this crap running at our homes it's like china's yeah make a model please just make more models you spend the money i'll use it this it's the garage bands that are gonna this is the new punk rock it's the garage i i agree with that but it's it's i think that we should it's it could be any industry we shouldn't scale back and let another country

53:56 they're not gonna all they want all they they don't want to scale back that's that you know you understand this they're not gonna scale back anything they want protection they want um you know i i i have a a clip for that. Go do AI Jensen. My boy. I'm curious to know your opinion. Why you think there are no missing parts when someone like Adario Amadei or a Sam Altman is saying, we'd like to see regulation. I think what I was responding to is in the case of both of the labs, one lab had four incidents, cybersecurity incidents, triggered by them.

54:38 Another one just had a couple more. And so before, and both of those incidents has plenty of laws to deal with. You have cybersecurity, unauthorized entry laws. You have damage liabilities. You have all kinds of liabilities associated with cybersecurity. You have all kinds of liabilities associated with products. And so if your product does harm, if your product doesn't perform as you promised, and if you entered into contracts with companies for service-level agreements, there are plenty of laws associated with that.

55:15 My point is, apply those first. And don't let this doomsday narrative cause somebody to relieve them of the laws that currently exist. Now, go and read between the lines. There's a lot of, they're actually not asking for more laws. They're asking to be relieved of the laws we do have. And I think that that's a problem. We have plenty of laws, so let's apply those first. Yeah, no, I'm all in with Jensen. I think he's absolutely right. But that's not what those guys are doing. Let me get back to the pro-human conference. By the way, I'm in a troll room. I saw you said 62 versus 55. Yeah, aren't you? How old are you? No, you're thinking of Jay Cow.

CHAPTER 10 / 23 Discussion

Jaron Lanier on AI Religion and China

Visionary Jaron Lanier spoke at a conference about the "pseudo-religion" surrounding AI and the drive to create a digital god. He argues that the industry's focus on passing the Turing Test with human-like voices is an expensive "parlor trick" that creates addiction and political distortion. Lanier notes that Chinese AI models are often cheaper because they focus on utility rather than human-like personality illusions.

jaron lanier· turing test· china· ai safety· sam altman· virtual reality

55:59 He's 55. How old are you? 53. Oh, sorry. Okay. Age discrimination. Well, it's DEI, baby. We want to get young people on the show. So there was one, they invited only one person from quote-unquote industry spoke at this conference. You've probably met him, Jaron Lanier. You know who he is? Yeah, he's the father of virtual reality. Kind of, you know, he's got dreadlocks. He's probably 350 pounds, lots of like hippie silver rings and bangles and stuff. You know, visionary, wears shades. You've never seen this man. Why would I have met him? Because you hang out with weird people. It's possible. You're the kind of guy. I don't hang out with anybody.

56:45 What do you mean? When I was hanging out with Elon, oh, yeah, no, I was hanging out with Harvey Orson. That was when I lived in LA. This is the California people. You never know. Anyway, I don't leave my ranch, man. So Jaron Lanier, I think is how you pronounce it. So he spoke at the conference, and he had only four points to make. Dude, they tried to play this guy off the stage. They were throwing up the music. They had the moderator on the stage nudging him off. I cut most of that out because it's just annoying. And I actually had my robot remove the music in the last clip because they were just fading up the music. Get him off. Give him the hook. We can't have this guy saying this. And the things that he said, I think were spot on.

57:30 There's a kind of a pseudo-religion, or maybe it's even a full-blown religion, that what's going on is we're creating this new successor species, this new super digital god, this new super being that maybe is better than people. And the only thing that matters is creating that, and nothing else really matters. And you've seen many video clips today of people from our community talking that way. Like Peter Thiel not being quite ready to say he wants people to survive, or the co-founder of XAI saying, well, we'll all die anyway. And it's like, well, how can they do that? Why would they want to do something? And it's because of this compulsive religion thing.

58:11 Now, the thing about that is you might find it surprising occasionally when they suddenly agree with something that seems reasonable. So in the last couple of days, we've seen some of the AI lab leaders say, yeah, a pause. We're into a pause. Now, why? It's a funny thing. But within our world, as long as the way, if you frame any kind of reaction to AI or any kind of concern about it in a way that emphasizes how intensely cool and powerful AI is, then it's all right. Do you follow that? So in other words, if you say, oh yeah, it could kill us all. It's so powerful.

58:53 Yeah, we should pause it. The key part there is that you're reifying, you're reinforcing this idea that there's a super being. As long as that's the foundational message, then it's. it just sails through. If that message is contradicted, it will not. It won't even be heard. Okay, so you need to understand our culture. You need to understand our language. And that's why the pause is suddenly a thing. Exactly. Marketing thing. So now he brings in China compared to the. So he's my whole problem with this is how it was introduced. And that was, I think a lot of people are probably mad.

59:32 I think Elon is probably mad at Sam Altman for bringing in the chat bot, which had this illusion of, oh, this is a real thing because we've been so pre-programmed by movies and television. Oh, if it's talking to me, then obviously it's a-he's bringing in a humanoid. That's even like, why would he be mad about a chat bot when there's a humanoid coming? Yeah. Okay, I'll wait for that. So this is something that breaks the Turing test. You know, the Turing test is if a computer can fool someone into thinking that it's a human or it's a real being, then you have, you know, you've broken through the, you've completed the Turing test. And he brings in China here. And I think this is important to understand how China operates versus the United States.

1:00:17 Because we have this intense compulsion to create this new life form, to believe we're creating the new digital God, we are urgently always trying to make it seem alive. And another way to put that is we're trying to pass what's called the Turing test, which is where you could fool a reasonable person into treating it as a living thing. And so we don't just present a tool that answers questions. We have to present a chat bot that seems to have a personality and has like a character and gets to know you and remembers you. They don't just get voices. Like in the old days in science fiction, before I was born, robots and AI used to have voices that sounded like robots and AI, so they were distinguished.

1:01:00 That was better, but no, no, no, no. We're trying to make them sound like Scarlett Johansson or whatever. And so why? Now, I want to point out something that I think is kind of important. That's a good point. A lot of the argument for going full bore ahead, even if we say we might kill everybody, is that China compete. But have you noticed something interesting? When China makes a model of a given level of performance, it comes out cheaper than we do it. It's cheaper to make and cheaper to run. Now, I have a theory. But they have less regulation and slave labor. No, no, no, no. That's not the point he's going to make. When he starts making the point, they start to. Yeah, I don't think he's making that point, but I'm just saying. Because you interrupted the clip.

1:01:46 That's what the pause button is for. You're like Dvorak now. This is horrible. Wait for that. Oh, God. Oh, hey, wait. I got some. He has a bell. Now you're a podcast. Wait, wait. No, I got. I got. Hold on. Hold on. You're sad. You're just sad, Brunetti. No, no, wait. No, hold on. I got a box. Hold on. I got a box of Dvorak's noise makers. You got souvenirs from his office? I have Dvorak's bell. You have. Did you buy it or was it given to you? It was sent to me by Jay.

1:02:27 Wow. She sent me a box. It arrived yesterday. Her and Mimi, they sent do you have the slide whistle? I don't. But I have the train whistle with Laser Tools Corporation, a print cache. I have a, I'm not putting this thing on my mouth, the Blue Midnight Mathis Honer made in Germany, Monica. Yeah. And then I have this pig that you squeeze it. And what else? Oh, and then the country cow where you turn it over and you get a little cow fart. Nice. Yeah, it doesn't work very well. But I think they're just trying to clean out his office and get rid of him.

1:03:12 So they're just shipping stuff to people. But I did get the bell. And this bell, they told me that it was grimy and dirty, and they weren't kidding. This thing needs a cleaning, but I'm going to leave it as it is. It's got Dvorak sap all over it. That's nasty. It does. That's nasty. Okay. So now he's going to make a point about China and they're going to start playing him off. And I have one more clip after that. A lot of the argument for going full bore ahead, even if we say we might kill everybody, is that China compete. But have you noticed something interesting? When China makes a model of a given level of performance, it comes out cheaper than we do it.

1:03:51 It's cheaper to make and cheaper to run. Now, I have a theory for overall why that is. It's because we add all this over. overhead for the digital god illusion that makes everything more expensive. And over in China, they already have their alternate god, which is the Chinese Communist Party. So they're playing him off. Yep. They're freed of that expense. I think that's so true. Like, this is exactly. I thought that was something playing on my computers. They literally were just playing him off. It's like he's in an award show. Yes. Like, exactly. Off the stage you go because he's making a point that, hey, China is doing better, not because of regulations.

1:04:27 They're doing better because they're not putting all this overhead in to make it your buddy and it loves you and it talks to you and has a has a um it has a personality so the music okay that's true well that that that let me play the third click so this had music underneath it but it got so loud that i had to demuck it that illusion is expensive that's the thing that hurts kids that's the thing that creates addictions that's the thing that creates political distortions that's the origin of the deep fake that like there should just uh it it violates multiple principles it's fraudulent intrinsically

1:05:07 like why do we do it it's expensive and it's not productive why do we do it we could stop we can present all the functionality all the cancer cures all of the help that we promise without the illusion of these fake people now if we implemented these four things would that guarantee safety no but these are all achievable things that would get us much closer and they're specific so the music was so loud at that at that point it was just it was so rude but i think he makes the point and this is why they want get out get out get out get out you're you're breaking the illusion you're breaking the illusion that this is

1:05:47 dangerous and and we have to have regulation or slowdown or or nationalize it or whatever that guy and pastor jimmy and i talked about it yesterday and we get to do this as a whole god angle to it um which you don't have to repeat here but this is the core problem of what is happening here that's it he nailed it okay and so if we just stop being so crazy about making it like like her what yeah okay but let me push back on that the by that logic we would still be uh uh our computers would all still be in doss no no no no no no no because the voice makes it

CHAPTER 11 / 23 Discussion

Future AI Licensing and Digital ID

The discussion touches on the return of "disinformation" experts like Tristan Harris and Renee DiResta to the public eye. A host predicts that AI regulation will eventually manifest as a personal licensing system, similar to a driver's license, linked to a digital ID. This shift would place the burden of responsibility on the individual user rather than the platform or the software.

tristan harris· renee diresta· digital id· licensing· ai regulation· section 230

1:06:34 accessible and to to a lot of people that no no it's a parlor trick it it but you know what this folder that's sitting on my desktop that looks like a paper folder that could be considered a parlor trick by that logic there's no evidence anyone will ever use a mouse don't you know that by now and it's true because we're gonna stop using the mouse what the thing that bugs me though is all wait till we get to the tip of the day all the you know all the all the the people are back on television tristan harris you know he was the the guy like oh the algorithms are killing our kids and uh and why his name isn't tristan i don't know but it's tristan tristan harris he's doing the rounds renee de restaurant she was uh

1:07:24 she was the one you know fighting disinformation and democracy now she's all of a sudden she's at the uh at george washington at the uh was it washington university and now she's in charge of lar large data model blah blah blah all these nut jobs come out again it's it's just so annoying what is happening where this is i'm with you this is so punk rock if you do this stuff yourself and you mess around with it and you're going beyond what they're trying to fence us into and the only logical legislation logical the only legislation i think they could come up with because you know well we have to all these rules for the road

1:08:04 and um you know who was this this this guy russell he's a professor um yeah but i but what but the getting rid of the voice chat and that aspect of it i think i feel like it's two different things as far as the what the government wants to do to regulate and as what as far as what the companies are doing building out uh uh like a voice chat or uh what what that guy was talking about i think that's different than what the regulations that we're talking about no or what am i i'm i'm confused here on what you what what the point is that you're making okay so there's two points the regulation always goes to we want a world government that's what all these people are trying to do we want that's bad we want a world government to regulate it

1:08:50 so trump's not going to let that happen on his watch it could happen you know with president newsoms Newsom. But what's that have to do with how the AI companies are for lack of better words? If we wanted to accelerate with what you can really do with these models, you wouldn't spend so much time on their digital God imagery of making it sound like a human and act like a human and having a personality. I disagree with that part. That's the part I disagree with. Because if they didn't do that, like if it was just in if otherwise it's just for nerds like guys like me and you that are digging into

1:09:32 it, Zuckerberg is proving it. Muse doesn't have a personality. It just does what you tell it to do. Yeah, but it's got the cute little icon on it. It's got a piece of play-doh up there. It doesn't look like a human. But if it was just a black and white typewriter text thing, Tina wouldn't be using it. Yeah. No, she hated that part. She's like, what is this gobagoo at the top of the screen? No, that's my point. No, she doesn't. Okay. Oh, she didn't like that. She didn't like the eye, the cute little icon. She doesn't want any of that. She'd just be a robot. Okay, so what if it looked like the troll room and it was just black and white? Hell no. I delete it from my phone right away. No, I'm talking about the look and feel.

1:10:16 No. What I think they're going to go for in America is a license, like a driver's license. That's where this is going to go. You have to be the responsible human being. You have to take a test to be able to, because there's nothing else that makes sense than that. And this will be the digital ID. That's where I see this going with all these legislators. To use AI. I'm sorry, I'm not following you. To use AI. In order to use AI, you'll have to have like a driver's license, like a pilot's license, like a gun license.

1:10:56 Write that down. Write that down in the red book. Yes, fishing license. This is what we're good at. Make everybody, oh, you have to be responsible. You have to go and take a test and you have to do this. You have to do that. That is the only, they'll never go for, you know, I guess like a Section 230, you know, whatever, like, we're not responsible. None of that's going to happen. They're going to put it back on us. They are. Yeah, you can put that. You can put that. You can put that in the book. All right. I think that's a little far-fetched, but I like where you're going. Anyway, you and I are the punk rock of AI, my brother. If you say so, I mean, I just, I find technology and this stuff super interesting.

CHAPTER 12 / 23 Discussion

Diesel Prices and Louisiana Export Ban Proposal

Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry proposes a 90-day ban on U.S. diesel exports to lower domestic fuel costs. The hosts discuss the impact of high diesel prices on ranching and the use of "red diesel" for off-road farm equipment. Landry also defends the water usage of data centers, claiming they use significantly less water than golf courses, while welcoming SpaceX investments in Louisiana.

diesel· jeff landry· red diesel· cyber truck· louisiana· fuel exports

1:11:41 I'm always fiddling around with it. I don't ever master it. I'm a jack of a lot of trees. You've got to master it. You've gone pretty far. I mean, you're stringing things. Just so you know, he sends me screenshots of his surveillance cameras and says, squirrel detected. So you can go out and blow the poor critter's brains out with an air sword. What are you talking about? I would never do such a thing. You're a hater, man. You hate squirrels. You're a squirrel hater. I don't like rodents that chew my wires. No. All right, since you're a rancher, since you're a farmer, let's talk about diesel for a second. What are your ruined your life, the diesel prices?

1:12:25 I meant to send you a photo I took this morning when I was going to get coffee. It's $8.50 a gallon here. And you have farm equipment, though, right? Yeah, but the one saving grace that's really a saving grace is I get red diesel, which is, you know, it's the same thing. Less taxes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's about $2 cheaper a gallon or $1.50 a challenge. That's pretty interesting because red diesel is, I think it's the same all around the world. And so the news reports always talk about, oh, it's $8 for diesel, but they're not giving the red diesel price, which is also

1:13:04 because you can't use red diesel on the road. I know, but they're off-road equipment. They use it in the same story about the farmers. Oh, the farmers. But they definitely have to do that. Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, but it's still, but it's still the price of red diesel isn't flat. So when you see the diesel at your normal gas station back going up, the red diesel is going up just as much. But you don't have the tax on it that you do at the station. But to your point, I have two 450s, two big Ford F-450s that we use for hauling trailers, horse trailers, and dump trailers, equipment trailers. And then there's all the tractors, the farm tractor, the Budos or the loaders, all of those.

1:13:48 Those all use diesel. Luckily. most of the construction on the ranch and stuff is done. But now, you know, it's it's still it takes a hit, but the 450s are sitting part, both of them, you know, on like a half a tank. I'm not taking them in. I'm trying to wait as long as I can. And hopefully, the price, I thought over the holiday Memorial or excuse me, Labor Day holiday, I thought that's why they were high. I thought they would drop after that. They didn't. They just continued to climb. And now it looks like they're going to continue to climb until at least the election. But yeah, they're sitting around. But I know you hate this, but my cyber truck, that thing is, I have 38 kilowatts of solar.

1:14:30 I have six power walls. My ranch is practically off-grid. I don't even get my trash picked up here. However, I do have to haul a dump trailer to the dump, which costs me with diesel now. But the cyber truck is, that's what I jump in. I have a Jeep and things I use as ranch vehicles around here. But if I got to go into town or go to Home Depot, I jump in that thing. And no, it's free for me. It's always wonderful to hear a millionaire say, hey, you know, it's not too bad. I'm pretty good. It's all right. I got a cyber truck. That's what I said. I got solar panels. That's what I'm saying. This is my translation. But the president and Buffalo Besant, that's his new name. Now I got that from Chris this week in Bitcoin instead of

1:15:16 General Bessant. Now it's Buffalo Besant. They already have a trick up their sleeve. He has called for a ban on diesel exports, temporary bans. On what? A ban on diesel exports. Chuck Rasley called for the same thing. Mike Rogers called for the same thing because that's something you're considering. Well, I'm calling for that too. I've said, let's not send out the diesel. We make a lot of diesel that could have a little bit of an effect on regular automobile gasoline. Because when you do that, you know, it's sort of a flow. It's a balance. But I've called for it within my people. I've been talking about it. Scott, do you want to talk about that for a second? We're examining that, whether it's feasible in terms of the overall refining capacity and whether a full or partial ban would work.

1:16:02 If there is a timeline for decision on that thing, do it fast. This would be an interesting thing to do, to ban the export of diesel, just sell it in the United States. Well, yeah, I mean, if it's going out of the United States, particularly places like California that the diesel refineries have been running out of the state, yeah, keep more of it here rather than sending it out and let that be their problem and not our problem. But I don't think that'll, I mean, unless they ban it, the company, the gas companies aren't going to do that. I mean, that's a lot of money for them to ship it overseas. But I think that would be great if they could do that. They're going to do whatever the executive order says. Well, yeah, that's why. Yeah.

1:16:46 You can do it under the Defense Production Act. There's all kinds of ways you can do it. There you go. Here's CNBC with an interesting take. Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry has an idea on how to lower fuel costs writing on X. Let's lower some fuel costs now and help the entire U.S. economy with the administration and Congress issuing a 90-day ban on U.S. diesel exports and making the small refinery exception permanent. Governor Landry joins us now this morning. Governor, good. We got the cameras going. It's good to see you. I thought we were going to have to do it on the phone. Good morning.

1:17:26 Good morning. In a nutshell, sometimes I wish we could just keep all of our oil here and have our own prices here. Because a lot of what we're seeing, since it's a global price and it's fungible and all goes everywhere, we are stuck with whatever the global price is. What you're trying to do here, it sounds like, you know, don't export diesel. Would that actually work and we'd have much lower prices here? Or would it just disrupt? It just seems like it's swimming uphill. Well, look, there are a couple of things that we can do long term to make sure that we don't get in this position again.

1:18:07 And then there are some things that we can do immediately that will give Americans some immediate relief. Look, putting in place a 90-day export ban certainly would create a supply of diesel in the country, which would cause diesel prices to fall. I mean, right now, a record amount of diesel is going to Europe, and Americans are subsidizing Europe's problems. And why? Because Ukraine, there's a war in Ukraine and issues in Iran. And Europe has done nothing to help America in either one of those two positions. But yet. Yeah, I thought, I'm like, yeah, exactly. Screw the European. European. No, wait, who is that?

1:18:47 The governor of Louisiana, Landry. I'm voting for him. And I don't even live in Louisiana. He also said something else, the conversation, just a quick throwback about data centers. And I'll just play that because it was worth it. You know, Governor, the AI data center football is now being kicked around by both Democrats and Republicans. Is it fair to say that you would welcome data center investments in Louisiana? And sometimes I think about some areas and not

1:19:26 taking on Louisiana, but some parts of the country where jobs and revenue and the economic benefits of this investment just seems like it so far outweighs where some of these communities are right now. It's very strange for me to watch what's playing out at a lot of these town halls. It is. It is a paradox. And unfortunately, I don't think the American people are digesting all of the information. I mean, look, nothing against golfers out there, but golf courses use 40 times more water than data centers. That's what I'm going to use. I love that. 40 times more. It's probably true.

1:20:07 Did you see the construction site for SpaceX in Louisiana, the 440-acre construction site? It's massive. Yeah, it's massive. It's massive. It's unbelievable. And it's like Louisiana, this guy, he knows what he's doing. Louisiana, what I was speaking about earlier, there's a lot of film that's shot there because they gave tax incentives to bring the film industry there because they understood that when you bring in a large industry like that, it creates jobs and creates a bustling economy. Yeah, meanwhile, we have Abbott here in Texas. He's like, well, you know, we should probably have to do a survey, blah, blah, blah. The whole thing is about the midterms. But I want to move back to Europe for a second because.

CHAPTER 13 / 23 Discussion

NATO Warnings and Russian Sabotage Claims

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte and Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk warn of increasing Russian aggression and hybrid threats across Europe. Reports cite a series of fires and drone incidents at defense warehouses and factories in Bulgaria, Italy, and Estonia as evidence of a sabotage campaign. Critics suggest these events are being used to build a narrative for war and to test NATO's Article 5 commitment.

nato· mark rutte· russia· poland· sabotage· leipzig airport

1:20:50 Well, here we go. Yeah. I'm getting legit concerned now about what these crazy people are doing. They so desperately, and there's people who have theories about it being, you know, we need a financial reset in Europe and they need to get rid of all of their debt and they want to turn everything around. The things that they actually accuse the United States of, like, oh, before you know it, it'll be a digital dollar. I think they're doing that in Europe. And they desperately, desperately, desperately want a war with Russia. And I have this report from the BBC that just anyone living in Europe, you should be outraged.

1:21:30 NATO faces the most dangerous, complex security. I have to say something about Market. I just need to remind everybody. He was prime minister of the Netherlands, unmarried, no children, probably gay. We don't know. Not that the Dutch would care. A nerd. He literally came from human resources at what's the soap company? Unilever. Soap and Paps Blue Ribbon, everybody. Nice. He literally came from HR at Unilever, and suddenly he's prime minister. The guy is no good. Nobody ever liked him. He's wimpy, he's soft, but now he's Mr.

1:22:14 NATO. He's a sales guy for our stuff, obviously. He's doing a great job with that. But just whenever I hear him, like, ah. So he's selling war now. There is a real risk that drones or other types of projectiles will enter the territory of one or several countries on the eastern flank. And this was the scene in Poland earlier on Thursday. Air raid sirens after a Russian attack near the border with Ukraine. Let's not forget that there's arson, there's sabotage almost every day. There is this background of a real concern, given the escalation of Russia's full-scale invasion of Russian aggression in Ukraine, that it could spill over into Europe.

1:22:56 Is Russia planning to attack a NATO country? Trust me. No. No, of course not. It's not a new question, but it is something more and more people are asking now. How likely is an attack from Russia? What would it actually look like? And why are we talking about it now? Well, over the next 10 years. Because you want war! We'll answer all of those questions. But first, here was a warning from Poland's prime minister, Donald Tusk. There is a real risk that drones or other types of projectiles will enter the territory of one or several countries on the eastern flank and even cause destruction. And the official narration will be that it's an accident, and there is no reason for NATO to think about response.

1:23:39 response. The goal, as evidenced by an analysis of Russian actions to date, is also to undermine NATO's integrity and above all to convince NATO member states, as we have already seen happen, that Article 5 is more theoretical than practical. In other words, the premise is that no one would be willing to die for Latvia or Lithuania when faced with mere incidents rather than a formal declaration of war. So, note the scary music, by the way, that is supposed to give you some tension there in your nervous system. A couple more clips here. Well, the warning came as a massive attack on the western part of Ukraine, very close to the Polish border, took place, with Poland repeatedly forced to scramble its aircraft.

1:24:22 Well, Donald Tusk isn't the only European leader warning about Russia. President Macron also has been sounding the alarm. Of course, and in recent weeks, the threat, in particular, the hybrid Russian threat to Europeans and to France hasn't inspired. I want to say here that the nature of Russian aggression and its threats in Europe is changing. The drone attack on the passenger train from Kyiv a few days ago. The attack or attempted attack at Leipzig airport, which failed. So they keep bringing this up. So there was a drone at Leipzig Airport. It didn't detonate because, of course, Russians don't know how to do that. But how big was this drone? Was this like a DJI drone?

1:25:03 It could have been some kid that was flying it around. Exactly. This is the whole point. There's no evidence. They haven't proven that it was Russia or that it was Russian explosives. Nothing at all, but they've just turned that message into: well, the Russians tried to blow up Leipzig. Of all places, Leipzig airport, really? I mean, you go from Munich maybe or Frankfurt, but no, Leipzig? Okay. The firing of flares near a Danish frigate incursions into airspace of several European countries and the increase in hostile arcs in most of our countries. The head of NATO, Mark Rutter, says the use of drones along Poland's border with Ukraine shows that Vladimir Putin is becoming increasingly desperate.

1:25:45 It's a clear example of increasingly reckless behavior. Russia and its president, but also of him being increasingly desperate. He's desperate. He's going to day. He's so desperate. He knows and sees that he is losing over 40,000 of his own people. Yeah, what are you losing over there? Dead or seriously wounded a month, leading up to the 1.2 million. The Russians have now lost or seriously wounded since the start of the war. Evidence that we have to be serious about what Russia is doing, but also acknowledging that this is desperation. It's also panicky. It's panicky. It's panicky. It's pinnicky. So they have this calendar.

1:26:26 Now, there's been arson in different European countries, and they're pinning it all on Russia. So apparently, now, instead of having people run through the streets and from house to house to find the terrorists who are committing this arson and doing all these in-NATO country terrorist attacks, they're just using it to make you believe that Russia is doing it. Well, the warnings come after increasingly hostile rhetoric from Moscow and what appears to be a sabotage campaign across Europe this summer with military and defense sites as the prime targets.

1:27:03 Listen to this, Dana. You'll appreciate this production. On the 4th of August, the first drone carrying an explosive device at Leipzig airport in Germany is discovered. Six days later, a major fire breaks out at a defence warehouse in Bulgaria. Previous blasts at the company's facilities were investigated for links to Russia. On the 13th of August, a fire at KNDS AMO outside Rome triggers a large explosion. The local prosecutor is looking into outside interference. Two days later, a robotics factory in Tallinn that supplies drones to Ukraine goes up in flames. On the 25th of August, an arson attack on a Ukrainian-owned drone manufacturer is narrowly avoided.

1:27:42 And on the 30th of August, two more fires are reported in Poland. One of them was an attack on a drone producer. A masked man was caught throwing incendiary devices on CCTV. The Polish Prime Minister called it a continuation of Russia's escalatory activities. A month after drones packed with explosives were found at Leipzig airport, Germany declared that Russia was responsible. Putin, as always, demanded proof, and his officials called the accusation absurd. I thought this was dynamite. It sounds like a pitch for a movie. It's like a beach sheet. Exactly. And they got the two voices going back and forth, and they mentioned the Leipzig drone twice. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. Who's going to play Putin? Put that in.

CHAPTER 14 / 23 Discussion

European Central Bank and Digital Euro Launch

ECB President Christine Lagarde announces the launch of "Pontes," a digital Euro platform for interbank transactions using distributed ledger technology. The ECB is also surveying Europeans on new banknote designs, which some interpret as a precursor to phasing out physical cash. The move toward a digital currency is framed as a necessary step for the European monetary system's future.

christine lagarde· european central bank· digital euro· banknotes· blockchain· ireland

1:28:27 Still one of my favorite movies is Wag the Dog. Wag the Dog, which DeLuca oversaw that. Oh, really? Your boy DeLuca? Yeah, he was ahead of New Line when that movie was made. It still holds true. I mean, it's still so good. But this is the Poland playbook. Where have you heard that before? I'm trying to think. Was it 40, 1940, maybe? It's like, we've heard all this. And so now we go to Fifi Lagarde, who runs the European Central Bank. And she slipped something in, you know, they've been talking about the digital Euro, the digital Euro, which they desperately need the digital Euro to reset their whole monetary system.

1:29:11 Just declare it bankrupt, and then here's your digital money. This is what they accuse Trump of doing, which he's doing the stablecoin gambit, which is something different. It's expanding our debt to the rest of the world with here's your dollars. Here's your digital dollars. It's not even going to be for us. It's for the rest of the world. But Lagarde is teeing up for this. And I mean, my daughter's in Holland, so I hope that they don't have some kind of kinetic war breaking out. It probably won't be, but they're really pushing it. And they're going to have to have some kind of event to bring in the digital Euro, which is already here now today. To expect a few things and to explain a few things. So what did I announce?

1:29:54 I announced that on Monday, the 21st of September, it will be the close of the survey that we have launched about three months ago now for Europeans, including Irish people, please, to express their views about the future banknotes that we will have throughout Europe. A little snide remark there at the Irish, because the Irish were the ones who voted against the Lisbon Treaty. Yeah, hello, you Irish. Remember, we made you take the Lisbon Treaty vote over because you voted wrong, please. We don't want to have to do that again. For Europeans, including Irish people, please, to express their views about the future banknotes that we will have throughout Europe.

1:30:37 This is Monday, end of the survey. You still have a chance to actually express views as to which series of banknotes you are looking forward to. Now, this is very interesting because, first of all, I looked at the banknotes, and you essentially have two choices. One with European luminaries on it, like Michelangelo, some other woman who I couldn't recognize from the picture, or birds. Literally, your choices are birds or people. But when you introduce new banknotes, you know what has to happen? The old banknotes have to go away. This is not lost on me.

1:31:18 This is a way to finagle the money. It's like, well, we've got to print new banknotes. Well, what is new banknotes? It's printing money. So new money has to come into the system. They've done this several times. They've done it with the Deutsche Mark. They did it with, well, they did it with the Euro in general. Everybody had to get rid of their guilders, their francs, their pounds. No, no. Oh, yeah, that's right. The Poundstick. No, the City of London never did that. They're not going to give up their pounds. No, no. That's their financial power. They never did that, even though they joined the European Union. But here it comes. Announcement number one. Announcement number two, Monday, 21st of September, we will launch Pontes.

1:32:00 Now, Pontes is, to summarize it quickly for you, it's digital Euro made available for banks so that they can transact amongst themselves using tokenized assets and distributed ledger technology. Complicated on the face of it. For them, it's rather simple, and they know that they can operate faster without friction and that it's a journey that they have to embark upon. Not the end of the journey. We continue to work and more will be developed, but it's beginning on Monday. There you go. Digital Euro is now being used between banks. So that's it. They're ready.

1:32:38 Beginning Monday. They're teeing everything up. And the question is, when something goes down, when there's like, okay, this was Russia. Clearly, they attacked us. This drone that has Russian letters on it. Is the United States going to be asked to jump in under Article 5 of NATO? Which I think Trump would say, no, I don't think so. No. At least I would hope he wouldn't. But I am concerned about it. I'm really concerned that they're just going nuts. Yeah.

CHAPTER 15 / 23 Discussion

Massachusetts Lesbian Bar Mask Mandate Controversy

A lesbian bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts, faced intense backlash from its patrons after announcing a single "mask-optional" night per week. The owners, who had required N95 masks for six years, were accused of "eugenics" and "ableism" by their community. The situation escalated into a three-hour mediated therapy session where the mediator was criticized for being "white" and "ableist."

mask mandate· massachusetts· covid-19· n95· ableism· social justice

1:33:18 I've got nothing else to say on that. All right. Well, ball is in your court, in your half court, sir. It's in my court. Where would you like to go? Would you like to lesbian mascara? Hello. Hello. All right. So let me tell you about this. Oh, man. See, I don't listen to the clips. And I'm like, okay, lesbian mask ban. That's got to be something good. And it's only three minutes long. So all right. So let me preface this. I could not find a clip on this. I saw it. There was a couple of other podcasters that talked about it, but this one sums it up the best. It was an article in the Boston Globe, I believe. And I apologize.

1:34:01 Oh, it is. You didn't have an AI read it, did you? No, I didn't do that. No. Oh, God, thank God. But it is a TikToker or a YouTuber or something. And we can stop through this because I think we need to laugh a little bit, but it just shows some absolute lunacy. So go ahead and play it and then we can interrupt it or just let it roll. There is a lesbian bar who for the last six years has required N95 masks. And they just announced that for one night a week only, they will be lifting the mask mandate to instead allow for optional N95 masks. They announced this on Instagram. It is with love. We informed our immunocompromised disabled divas that we will be opening Saturday nights as mask optional.

1:34:45 And their patrons lost their ever-loving minds. Just say you're complicit in a mask disabling event and get over with it. People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience. I hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow immunocompromised people of their Saturday plan. Yeah, this is great. This is great. So does this not sound similar to the Paramount clip, the news clip that I played, where they're now attacking Newsome and Bonta and Karen Bass. Yeah. And so they're starting to eat their own. So continue with this because they're now. So as you, this was a the, I don't know if she goes into it, but the place was losing money.

1:35:30 And so they was like, okay, let's one night remove the mask so we can get some more customers in here. Continue. And just to scrape extra revenue from ableists, I guess every lesbian in the greater Greenfield, Massachusetts area is also disabled and immunocompromised. People running the bar start getting accused by their own customers of being eugenicists. They caved and apologized, as one often does to the woke mob. Meanwhile, this town hasn't reported a single COVID case in months. Their apology, while demanded, was not well received. And they got angry that this post on Instagram was not properly captioned for people who may be visually impaired.

1:36:12 So there was a whole new round of allegations. It sounds like a Saturday night live skitter parody, but this is all real. It just shows you the insanity of some of these people. Keep going. This is Massachusetts. It gets better. They bring in a therapist. Oh. It's the unbelievably woke three individuals who opened up this bar. One of the trio is a drag performer who uses it, its pronouns and envisioned a bar for transsexual gender freaks, workers, and their friends. Notably, the police are not welcome inside of this building, but poor and unhoused people are welcome.

1:36:51 And they decided that you would never be turned away if you couldn't afford anything. So incidentally, they are now tens of thousands of dollars in debt. One of the founders has now left to pursue an education in clown school, which very preferable to become a clown professionally. But the one founder who still is remaining decided to try to appease their customers. So she hosted a three and a half hour meeting where angry customers could come and voice their concerns, mediated by a licensed therapist. There were people who called in virtually to the meeting, and she says, we really want to prioritize the people who are here. And because the therapist said that, therapist was then accused of being ableist. It's messed up. The mediator is dismissing those attending virtually. That's not accessibility.

1:37:36 Not only was the therapist ableist, she was white. The biggest cardinal sin. I'm hearing a lot of therapists centering the feelings of a majority white and white adjacent staff. Hey, hey, we are non-practicing whites here. The No Agenda Show. So we take offense to this. And they remember this mediator is a licensed therapist, which makes her a mandatory reporter in situations like assault, which basically makes you a police officer. So evil. All this because it is now optional one night a week in the year of our Lord 2026 to wear an N95 mask to a communist lesbian bar. You know, I got to tell you, I'm still amazed when we flew to Holland this last trip.

1:38:19 And we were, no, we were in Holland. I'm sorry, in Holland, and we wanted to fly back. And we were looking for the KLM lounge. And this guy from Austin, because it was a direct flight to Austin, you know, we're looking at the information thing and you scan a QR code and it was completely useless. And he comes up and he's wearing a mask. He's like, are you looking for the phenol? Yeah, yeah, we're looking for the. And so we found it, but we just walked fast away from like, what is wrong with you? And there's so many people still wearing masks in Austin.

1:38:56 It's crazy. I think some of them wear the mask just to hide their ugly faces or that they don't have to like do their makeup or whatever, that they just kind of. Not this guy. Not this guy. Yeah, yeah, no, I think the majority of them still are deathly scared. Legit scared. Yeah, it just shows you the media op of how well it and how effective it was. That it has people completely, as she said, in 2026, we still have people masked up. And it's not just on the left. This is from Fox. This is that Dr. Siegel who always used to be on with Tucker. And listen to this about measles.

CHAPTER 16 / 23 Discussion

Measles Outbreak and Vaccine Efficacy Debate

Fox News medical analyst Dr. Mark Siegel discusses a measles outbreak in Pennsylvania and the decline in national vaccination rates. The segment highlights cases of fully vaccinated individuals testing positive for the virus, which Siegel attributes to the vaccine's 97% efficacy rate. The hosts contrast the modern medical alarmism with a 1969 Brady Bunch episode that depicted measles as a routine childhood event.

measles· mark siegel· cdc· vaccination· brady bunch· fox news

1:39:40 A 40-year-old Pennsylvania woman is the latest to die from measle complications. Measal complications. Okay. What did she do? How many people have died of measles and they're making such a spotlight on the risks of the highly contagious virus? The CDC says more than 3,000 cases have been reported nationwide this year, with some who were vaccinated even testing positive. Health officials are urging people to know the warning signs and to make sure they're protected. No, the warning sign, like dots on your face? A warning sign. Here to discuss this on Medical Monday. It's Fox. Medical Monday. Woo! Hey, created by Dana Brunetti. Senior medical analyst, Dr.

1:40:22 Mark Siegel. Dr. Siegel, great to see you. Good to see you. Why is this happening and why is it so contagious? Well, it's over 700 cases in Pennsylvania alone. Over 3,000 cases in the United States over the past year, we're going to lose our elimination status, meaning that we could spread cases here without it being travel-linked. That's what's happening. The reason it's happening is because our overall vaccination rate against measles is striking down. It's supposed to be 95% or above in order to prevent spread because not everybody can get the vaccine. Immunocompromised pregnant women, very, very young children can't get the vaccine.

1:41:00 So you have to protect them by having a ring immunity around them because this is the most contagious respiratory virus on the planet. Most contagious respirators on the planet. The vaccine. How many people have died? This one lady, apparently. Is 97% effective. Oh, here we go. It's 97% effective. So if everyone was taking, did she have the vaccine? Do we know that? Who? The lady? No. Well, the lady who died. Wait for it. Second clip coming up. Here we go. But what is alarming, four fully vaccinated people tested positive for measles, three adults and one child. This is so alarming. Fully vaccinated, safe and effective, yet it's not worth it.

1:41:44 What's the point if these people are getting the what's the point of the vaccine if they're still getting measles? Well, I'm going to COVID. Oh, I'm going. Hey, hey, there you go. What happens if you're fully vaccinated and you get the measles? I don't find that alarming. I'll tell you why. It's not alarming. As long as you're vaccinated, it doesn't matter if it doesn't work. I'm not that alarmed by that. I just need to get vaccinated. No, that's 7%. They're in the 3% that aren't covered, that got it. It didn't work. It didn't quite hold. It didn't quite hold. It didn't quite hold. It didn't quite hold. This is so good. This is so good. The good news is they're much, much, much less likely to get severely ill or to get. Oh, it's a deja vu, man. Yes. Deja vu.

1:42:27 It almost sounds like Fauci. Yeah, you won't have to go to the hospital. You won't get severely ill. You'll still get it because, you know, vaccine is supposed to inoculate you, but no. Hospitalized. They're just going to have mild cases almost across the board. So the vaccine does something, but it doesn't prevent them from getting it. It does something. Yeah. It puts money in the pharmaceutical industry's pockets, but it does something. In that 3%, those four people. So fewer complications if you are vaccinated. Are we seeing anyone dying from the measles if they're vaccinated? Can they get it? Are we seeing anybody dying from the vaccine? Thank you. That can happen. It can happen. But, you know, you don't have to go to the hospital. It's not going to be a very severe case, but it can.

1:43:10 For the measles, if they're vaccinated, can they get it? I haven't seen that. That can happen. Again, you could have an idiosyncratic reaction or you could have real. really be immunocompromised. And you might have had the measles. I wonder if they wear a mask at a lesbian bar. But still get sick when you're immunocompromised. Very unlikely anyone would die if they had this vaccine. I'm a huge proponent of this vaccine. Yes, well, we could tell that. A huge proponent. I know you are. It would be devastating if your child died. Oh, here we go. This is the so he. Now it'd be devastating if your child died. Yeah, he tees her up. She punches it home. I know. I know you are. It would be devastating if your child died and you didn't vaccinate your child and that your child got the measles and died.

1:43:54 How old does a child need to be when they are eligible for this shot? Well, they get it around the age of one and then they get it right before kindergarten, the second shot. So that's the whole thing. We put emphasis on getting that second shot before kindergarten. 93%, though, with the one shot. No. 97% of the time. One shot's only 93%. 93% difference. You've got to get two. Should we start vaccinating? Is there, I'm sure there's a reason we wait till they're one years old, but could we vaccinate earlier than? Jab a merlin right when they're born, right out of the womb, right into right into that soft spot on the top of their head, jam it in the wind. Why wait until they're born? Let's do it in the womb. In the womb, yes. Nine months and above, because we have to wait until the immune system is built up.

1:44:38 Right. You know, and a lot of this is occurring because people don't understand how long this vaccine's been around, how safe it is, and how dangerous measles can be. One out of five unvaccinated people end up in the hospital for measles, and that's a problem. You can get pneumonia. Yes, sir. Oh, won't somebody please think about the children? And just as an honorary nod to JCD, we will play the Brady Bunch Gets the Measles clip. Peter, what are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles. You see, their measles are a strange case of red freckles. You have got a temperature.

1:45:20 They told me 101.1. What's the record? Never mind. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days. Say hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear. Okay, honey. Bye. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah. If you have to get sick, sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine. Inside or out. Like shots in me. Don't even mention shots. Yes. Measles. Measles. Measles. Well, all the kids have now had the measles. So have I. Well, I had them years ago. Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles. Hold it.

CHAPTER 17 / 23 Discussion

GLP-1 Lawsuits and Cosmetic Peptides

Pharmaceutical companies Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly face lawsuits alleging that GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic cause a rare type of vision loss. The hosts discuss the widespread use of these drugs for weight loss and the growing trend of "micro-dosing" peptides and Botox among social circles. They express skepticism regarding the long-term safety of these treatments and the "aesthetics" culture driving their popularity.

ozempic· wagovi· eli lilly· vision loss· botox· peptides

1:46:11 You're not through yet. Alas, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles. Oh, I hope so. I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age. Man, where did we go wrong? They're even saying, who wants a shot? No one wants a shot. Ooh, no one wants a shot. This is. We've gone nuts. Completely nuts. Where do you want to go next on this? Let's say with medication and GLP-1. Okay. Does it need setup or is it self-control? No, it's just there's yeah. There are now dozens of lawsuits filed in the U.S. against the makers of Ozempic, Wagovi, and Zeppbound, claiming that these GLP-1 drugs led to a rare type of vision loss.

1:46:55 In one complaint, a 53-year-old Pennsylvania woman says she was prescribed Ozempic to help treat her type 2 diabetes. She alleges that within six months, she developed vision loss in her right eye and as a result, struggles to perform daily tasks like driving and reading. Novo Nordisk, which is the maker of Ozempic and Wagovi, said that they take all reports of adverse events very seriously and push back on the claims, saying the personal injury lawsuits filed in the U.S. are without merit. Eli Lilly, which makes Zeppbound, said patient safety is the top priority and it actively monitors, evaluates, and reports safety information. Now, the medical evidence on this is mixed. One recent analysis found there may be a small increased risk for people with type 2 diabetes to develop a vision problem if they're taking

1:47:39 literally GLP-1 was literally designed for people with type 2 diabetes. This is great. Has found there may be a small increased risk for people with type 2 diabetes to develop a vision problem if they're taking GLP-1s, but it didn't prove constant. You can stop it there. So do you think that it's the people with diabetes? They've been taking it longer than everybody has been taking it for weight loss, right? Let me just tell you. SuitsandBoots.com. Rob, the constitutional lawyer, is part of these lawsuits on behalf of his clients, some of them from no agenda, actually. So, if you have experienced vision loss, go with the guys who will get you the most money.

1:48:20 That's right. They're talking big bucks bonanza. Go to suitsandboots.com. Wait, now, how much is Jay Cowell getting per commercial? Six grand? Can you believe it? I believe it. I'm sure it's true. Yeah, I believe it too. So, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, I think he has a bill coming to him. Oh, no, no, that was a great read. No, he does free work for me. You know, all my lawsuits, yeah, he takes care of it. Oh, no, your family, Curry, your family. We take care of you. Your family. I thought Rob Dew was and him were the same at first. Yeah. If they had a baby, that would be fantastic for sure. For sure.

1:49:01 Apparently, it's possible. Men can get pregnant now. Yes. I know. But is Tina talking about like peptides? Because I've noticed this with all women. They're like talking to each other like it's Botox and all the other that they're always going around like they want to get there. And I'm constantly complaining to my wife. Do not do that. Don't do it. I am so with you. So, yes, it goes like this. Because, of course, all women do Botox. And it's literally their Alex. She did it one time and her lips blew up. And I said, see, I told you. She's 12. Stop it. She's not that young. She is a lot younger than me, but not that young. Okay. Well, Tina would be the first to tell you she's been doing Botox for 20 years.

1:49:45 And, you know, she snagged me. So good job. But it is literally, and these Botox ladies, you know, they're in hair salons. They're all over the place now. And they are the ones saying, oh, you know, I've got the Triple G now. I've got this. I've got the, you know, the, what is it called? Like the vampires. There's all these different names for it. And I know friends of ours, like, oh, yeah, no, we're just micro-dosing it. Okay. Well, that's micro-dosing it. Was it shrooms or weed? Micro-dosing it. But they get, well, you know, we get it from this person. That person's brother is a doctor, so it's all okay. I think this is the most dangerous thing ever. And Tina won't do it. She's like, no, I'm not going to do any of this.

1:50:29 Even though she's a real workout aholic, she's in the gym every day. She walks, you know, two miles every day. What's that have to do with that, though? Because the people who work out are the ones that want this because this triple G stuff or whatever it's called, when you work out, it makes you jacked. It just makes you jacked. So the gym rats has a lot of this going on. But that I find hilarious, though, because they're actually putting in the work and losing the weight. But I guess they want to be. It's aesthetics, man. It's aesthetics. Now, I'm with you. I mean, I'll just be a wimpy, wiry, six foot five dude with Tourette's. You know, it's like, I'm amazed that I got a wife, actually.

1:51:12 I think about it. I'm constantly battling with Alex about it because it's all of her friends. They're all, you know, they're all on a Zimpeak or whatever, you know, the latest thing is. We just, a good friend of mine, Katie Cassidy, was just here at the ranch for a few days. And she's like, name drop. Who's Katie Cassidy? Name drop. Who is she? Should we know her? She's an actress. She's actually name drop. She's actually an ex-girlfriend of mine. Oh, a model actress. Nice. Not a model actress. I mean, Alex modeled as well. I don't know. It's just. Anyways, we get into it. I nailed you. Admitted, I nailed you on name dropping. Okay. So Katie, so Katie dropped by the ranch.

1:51:57 Yeah. So she was talking about like some shampoo with peptides in it. And I'm like, are you kidding? And she wasn't. And Alex is like, oh, I got to get that. I'm like, you are not. You don't use any of that. And then it just started this whole discussion back and forth about, but that's how it always goes. And they're like, oh, well, she's doing it. And whether or not I should try it. And look at her. And it's Alex did do it one time. I have the funniest picture, not peptides or GLV1, but when we lived in LA still, she got Botox for her lips. And she had an adverse reaction to it. And her lips blew up like a clown. It was hilarious. I'm like, see, this stuff is not good. No, she shouldn't be putting Botox in her lips.

1:52:41 That's filled up. Or whatever. No, that's something. She did. She did fill her. That's another thing I'm so against. My ex-girlfriend. Olive, I'm against any of that stuff. None of it's good. Monty83 in the troll room had a very good point. Triple G, G G G 666. Upside down. 66. Yeah. Okay. Good point. Yes. it actually is developed by Eli Lilly, but it's invested. It's retra true died. Retrude drive. Yeah. Retatrue died.

1:53:24 People will email me and they will go off their. You don't know what you're talking about, Curry. My life has changed. I feel great when I get up in the morning. Well, I feel great too. Yeah, but my whole thing, too, is it's so new and hasn't properly been tested. And that was my point about the people that have diabetes is who they're talking about with the lawsuits now. Yeah. And it's like they've been using it longer than, so I think there's going to be a whole cascade. And Rob, the Constitutional Lawyer, if he's representing people for this, I think he's going to have a good business for a while. Yes. Suitsandboots.com. I'm telling you. Another six grand. He always said, hey, man, you know, if we work together, we'd make a bundle on this stuff.

CHAPTER 18 / 23 Discussion

Helicopter Logistics and the Amsterdam Heliport Story

The discussion covers the difficulty of obtaining helipad permits, prompted by Donald Trump's comments on Marine One's power. A host recounts a personal attempt to build a heliport in Amsterdam harbor to assist trauma helicopters, which ultimately failed due to a nearby windmill and a crooked business partner. The segment concludes with advice on the dangers of landing helicopters in tall grass or near curious cows.

helicopters· sikorsky· amsterdam· baby seals· robinson r-44· helipads

1:54:09 I'll send them to you for free, brother. I'll send them to you for free. You're doing it wrong. I heard you complaining to JCAL about all the, you know, all this different things. See, you're doing it wrong. I know. I do it wrong all the time. It's not my job. My job is to, it's this. This is my job. Welcome to my life. All right. You want to do one or two more? Do you want to stay for the donations? Yeah, I saw some people. I don't have the donations, but I can comment and just be the peanut gallery. That'd be good. That'd be good. Thanks. All right. So let's. I have a couple. I thought that I tailored these for you since they have to do with aircraft. Let's start with Helipad first. Hold on a second.

1:54:51 Where is this? Healy pad. Was it under Trump, maybe? Oh, yeah. Okay. We say helipad, but you say helipad? Okay. Okay. All right. We ordered a number of Sikorskys as helicopters back and forth. Well, they're about two and a half times more powerful than the old ones. And when you land on the grass, it's not that the grass gets discolored, it gets ripped out, ripped out. And it was all over it. They landed at once, and nobody planned for this. This was a little bit of a planning mistake. So they landed the helicopter, and half of the grass was sitting in front of the Oval Office front door.

1:55:35 The rest of it was scattered all over the. I mean, literally, it didn't singe it. It also singed it, by the way. But it literally lifted because of the power. It's tremendous. The engines are on the top. It didn't singe it. No, he's not even. He's talking about. Oh, you're talking about the singing? Okay. Yeah, that's not true. He said, well, we'll keep using the old helicopters when we have to land at the White House. And for everything else, we use the new helicopters. They said, that's a pretty expensive deal. You wouldn't do that for your company. You'd figure out an answer. So I said, because I have helicopters and three of them. I said, because they've been great for my business. I think they're incredible.

1:56:16 So, Sikorsky's, Sikorsky 76. And I always was lucky. I always got helipads. Other people don't. Very hard to get. The hardest thing to get is a helipad. That's true. Okay. There's no harder zoning thing to get is a helipad. All right. So I figured you would appreciate the hardest thing to get is a helipad because of your stories with that. Yes. So I'll tell the story. January 2000, I want to say. Yeah, January 2000, 2001. Huge fire in a small fishing village, very famous fishing village in a nightclub.

1:56:58 Like 80 kids got severely burned. Holland isn't all that big, but the nightclub is within, you know, like 15 to 70 minute flying distance from the hospital in Amsterdam where they have helicopters on the roof. The burn center is in the north of Holland in Groningen. And so these kids, you know, they're pulling these kids out. It's a nightmare. You know, it's New Year's Eve. These kids are burned. There's kids dying. The whole thing is horrible. And the helicopters were not allowed to take off because of noise abatement. They don't have the literal license to take off after, I think, 7 p.m.

1:57:39 from the hospital rooftop. And so they have to take these burned kids by car. That's an hour and a half, maybe two-hour drive by ambulance. Of course, not enough ambulance. The whole thing was horrible. And so I went to the mayor at the time, Pauline Krike, in Amsterdam. I said, I'm going to build a heliport. And I was in the helicopter business. I was throwing away my money. on helicopters. And I said, I'm going to build it. I'm going to buy some solar panels or something. Well, I also wanted it because it's very expensive to land at Schiphol Airport. Landing fees are like $400 just to land at the airport. Oh, so you were saving some money.

1:58:19 Well, I was like, yeah, I was going to save some dough. So I'm going to build a heliport. I want the permit. I'll build it in the harbor. And I will let the trauma helicopters stay there, take off, land for free, no charge whatsoever. And so they said, yeah, okay, they got it. One small problem, Mr. Curry. What's that? Well, the spot you have mapped out, which is the only logical spot, has a windmill next to it. Then I'm not talking a Dutch windmill. I'm talking one of those monster things that supposedly generates energy for your Tesla. You have to move that. So I spent 100,000 euros to move the windmill to then have the heliport.

1:59:01 That's a deal. And then after that, everything went to crap. My business partner turned out to be a crook. He was wanted by the Scotland Yard. You know, we had another Augusta helicopter on order. I had to cancel that order, $400,000 order. This is where all my money went, by the way. And I wound up selling it for one Euro to an outfit called Helly Holland. They bought it from me, of course. And to this day, the trauma helicopters still don't use it. They use it for one. There's only one purpose except for passenger use. They use it to land with the baby seals they rescue.

1:59:46 Oh. That's what happened to my heliport. Good job. You're saving all the baby seals. Yeah. But helicopters, not the ones he's talking about or the ones that I have, but I flew a lot of smaller helicopters. And we go to my friend's place in Belgium or somewhere else. And we just land in the field next to the house. We have to be very careful because you get the, like, I trained in Robinson R-44s. Those things are. Well, it's cheap for training. At least it was. But they have the engine in the back, mounted in the back. You couldn't land in tall grass because you can just look it up on YouTube. The number of Robinson R-44s and R-22s that have caught fire because they landed in grass.

2:00:30 Landed in dry grass. And poof, and it consumes the entire aircraft very quickly. The second thing you have to watch out for is cows. Cows love helicopters. Cows will come up and make hamburger meat really fast. No, no, no. You land there. So now you got the shortgrass. You land in the field. The cow, you got to watch it because the cows will come over and they will tip the helicopter over. They love rubbing against the helicopter and they push it over time and time again. You mean after it's shut down? Yeah, yeah. Not why it's running. Before the hamburger bit. Yeah, exactly. So there's my helipads. This, by the way, this is in the book, Dana. We just gave away another beautiful teaser.

2:01:12 It's called a teaser. It's a teaser. Yes, a teaser for the book and for the movie. And I have pictures. I have pictures. It's coming out in 2031 or 32. Dude, 2027. Oh, you better get cracking. Thanksgiving 2027 Blockbuster. Paramount. I'm going to have to get an AI, a better machine that can run some. No, just call your buddy Elon. We'll use his thing, his movie thing. It'll be fine. I'm just going to have Grockbot make it. Just call his number. You have his number. Tell me. I used to. I don't have it anymore. J.Cal, I'm sure, has it.

2:01:52 We got to lose J.C.P. J. Cal. We'll give you points. We'll give you points, J Cal. We'll give you points after the money points. And he won't get taxed by California. I'm going to have to move there or send an entity there before we do that. And red carpet rights. You get to walk the red carpet with us. And we'll get you a ticket to the Oscars. We're going to get nominated. No, we're going to win. We're going to get nominated. This is going to be. Well, you got to get nominated before you can win. All right. Call Harvey. Call Harvey. Call Harvey. Harvey's indisposed. All right. One more, one more. Do one more with me. This is good. All right. We'll say on the aircraft.

CHAPTER 19 / 23 Discussion

FedEx Horse Transport and Show Mix

An air traffic control clip reveals the frequency of shipping racehorses and jumpers via FedEx cargo planes. The hosts discuss the high costs and specialized logistics involved in transporting livestock internationally. This is followed by a produced musical mix recapping the show's themes and the guest appearance of Dana Brunetti.

fedex· horse transport· air traffic control· show mix· podcasting

2:02:35 And I don't know why this I've been getting some ATC things popping up, but they're always funny because there's usually people like the tower flight fighting with a pilot. And I find them kind of amusing. But this one, because we were talking about the last time I was on about horses and how expensive they are. And I can relate to this. So go ahead and play FedEx. And I do have a question about the cargo if you got a second. Right? Go ahead, FedEx 30. FedEx 30 seconds, Air and I, we were just kind of. of musing up here. Um, the uh the horses who ships horses, or are they here for the track? Or can you tell us, or do you know? This one's joining up with four more that are going to LA. Is that common? I mean, I know you guys come in here with horses, but is that common for people to be able to ship horses?

2:03:15 Yeah, more than you think. I hundred percent agree with that. Appreciate you, the information. And for FedEx 3609, heavier to reaffirm five race, clear to win. Yeah, do we like to roll out because we hit the brakes too hard? They have a tendency to roll, like slip under, roll backwards. Yeah, I don't want any of that. So it'll be your discretion. There's plenty of space behind me. You can go to the end, whatever works for you. You're welcome. Thanks for the info. Zero record Charlie Barnes up to do too. And FedEx 3609 have you are they race horses? What we have on board is the other ones are gonna be jumpers. Okay, thank you. Okay, so this was very nice inside information. Clearly, Alex ordered some race horses, some jumpers, and they were being flown to your home in California.

2:03:58 Well, I would not be surprised if we did have a horse on there because they were going to LA and they are jumpers, and that's what she gets. And her jumpers, they're warm blood, so they either come from Belgium or Germany or different places in Europe. And everyone's like, well, how do you get them over? You put them on a boat or something? Nope. And you FedEx them. That was a FedEx plane, and they have a special plane that's just for or a portion of a cargo plane that has stables inside of it. I know this because I once, this is years ago, was on KLM flying to the U.S. from the Netherlands. And I don't remember how, whatever it was, they were going down.

2:04:42 It was like half the plane was filled with people, and there were horses. And you were going down? No, the flight attendants were going down. They were like taking pictures and stuff and going down the stairs in the 747. What's going on? Oh, we got horses down there. So, yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. Yeah. So again, do not get into horses because it becomes expensive very fast. You don't want to know what it costs to FedEx a horse across the world. It's not cheap. Somehow, somehow, I think everybody understands that, Dana. All right, everybody, we're going to be right back with the donations and Dana's tip of the day right after we roll out another song that was too long to play at the intro, but I think you'll enjoy it, Dana.

2:05:24 Bathroom break, everybody. Adam, chew that up. We got some news to discuss. Dana back in the chair, Hollywood in the rear. Adam got a stack of clips. Let's make it disappear. Headlines on fire. Everybody got a take. Half of them are selling it. The other half is fake. Road tape. Hold up. Run that back. Funny how the story changes when you follow the facts.

2:06:06 Adam on the board with a finger on plate. Dana knows a good production when he sees one, okay? House house full of cars, couple shades in the past. Race to Grand Turismo, yeah, the resumes fast. No need to name drop, but the man's been around. Knows a manufactured story when it comes into town. Adam and Dana, back on the mic, Mike. News gets strange when you turn on the lights. Clip by clip, line by line. Everybody's got a story. We got plenty of time. Adam, Adam, and Dana. Pour up a shot. Bring it, bring us what you know. Ricky, bring us what you got. Hollywood, D.C. Money and fame, different cast of characters. Same damn game. Now, Dana got connections. That's what somebody said. John C. Dabelrack's nephew. Wait, what?

2:06:49 Yeah, that's what I read. Don't check the family tree, don't ruin the bit. JCD would hear that line and throw an absolute fit. Cranky Uncle John saying this is absurd. And correct your pronunciation in your choice of every word. That's pedigree, baby. Put respect on the name. Even when the genealogy is completely insane. Meanwhile, Adam got another clip in the queue. Somebody on television explaining him what's true. Dana leans back like I've seen this before. Better sets, bigger budgets, same script at the core. Adam and Dana. Back on the mic, Mike. My news gets strange when you turn on the lights. Not quite. Adam and Dana. Keep what makes sense. Throw out what does this not 80 and movies power and fame.

2:07:36 Different productions. Same damn game. Dana knows pictures. Adam knows sound. Both know a narrative when one's going around. So bring in the headlines. Bringing the spin. Dana's back in the building. Let the deconstruction begin. Adam and Dana. to say. No velvet rope, no Hollywood plot. Just Adam Dana. And a whole lot of. No agenda. Welcome back, nephew.

CHAPTER 20 / 23 Discussion

Meeting Elon Musk and Silicon Valley Anecdotes

The hosts share personal stories of meeting Elon Musk during the early days of Tesla and SpaceX. One describes meeting Musk at a venture capital event where he appeared introverted, while Brunetti recounts cold-emailing Musk to propose a movie. The anecdotes highlight Musk's early awkwardness and his eventual rise to prominence within the Hollywood and tech elite.

elon musk· tesla· spacex· ray lane· mike moritz· silicon valley

2:08:31 Welcome back, nephew. Hey, am I? Can you hear me? Am I still here? Yeah, I hear you. J. Cal is talking smack in Twitter to me right now. What's he saying? What is he saying? Because, you know, he's coming Sunday. He's coming back on Sunday. Yeah, I know. I got bumped for Jay Cal. I get it. You didn't get bummed. This is CEI, man. We got to have the NeuroDivergent on as well. You know, it's not a good thing. He's a closet liberal. I like him. I like him. I think he's great, and I think you should keep using him. He definitely brings in the crowd, but I love a little friendly competition here. How long are you going to just show up on this show, man? It's like, I don't think me?

2:09:08 Yeah. You. Or Jay Cal. Who are you? I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. J. Cal said, I'm doing a fine job as a second or third choice in the rotation. That's amazing. I told you, I'll show up as long as I. How long are we going to keep doing this? That's a good question. I don't know. I mean, I feel like my season is ending. My season is coming to a. Why? Because I can never have a full partner on this show unless it's a member of the Dvorak family. I am a member of the Dvorak family. I'm his nephew. Yeah, okay. Well, look, I even have the. I love you, ma'am.

2:09:52 I want to make a movie with you. I don't want to do a podcast with you. Okay, well, we got to get Jay Cal in on the movie then, too, because we need Elon's phone number to get in early on the AI studio. Consider it done. He's already dialing. I know he is. Hey, Elon. Hey, Elon. You've got to get clear. And these guys are good. Listen, Brunetti, you just like House of Cars. You like House of Cars? Elon knows who I am. Elon Elon and I used to be. Oh, Elon knows who I am there. No, he and I used to hang out. Yeah, in LA. I'm sure. I met him once. I met him once. Twice, I think. You met him once? Yeah.

2:10:33 One time. One time. This will be in the book. Here's another teaser. One time at one time I met Elon. No, I met him twice. The first time. Hold on. Sir Bemrose in the troll room said Dana clearly wants a full-time job. That is not true. No. No, I don't think no one wants a full-time job. I need a full-time job. No, so I met him at who was the guy who ran Sequoia Capital? Moritz, Mike Moritz. He ran Sequoia Capital. They invested in Pod Show, later Mevio.

2:11:11 And he's like, you got to meet this guy. Come over, you know, all of our founders, all of our founders, come on over to my house, Knob Hill, one of those huge mansions on the hill, slanted hill. And there was Elon, and he was talking about Tesla. And he was really introverted. Like, could barely talk. Not at all. Like he's so articulate now. It's almost like a different guy. I think he's had some media training. Well, it wasn't even media. It was just, we were just hanging out, having some shrimp cocktail. Yeah, no, here, you want me to give. Sorry, you finish your story. Okay, I'll finish my story. The second time, I've finished my story.

2:11:53 We were with Roy Lane, Ray Lane. I'm sorry, Ray Lane. He was the president of Oracle under Ellison, but he really ran, he was like an operator. So he really ran Oracle, and Ellison was kind of on his way out at the time. And Ray was one of the top guys at Kleiner Perkins, who had also invested in our company. We came to them, by the way, thanks to Steve Jobs. That's another story. That's definitely in the book. And Ray said, hey, we're going to go to the launch of Tesla in Los Angeles and come with me in my jet. Okay. So he had a Bombardier, brand new Bombardier jet. So we fly in. I don't know if I don't know if it, I don't think it was LAX. Was it Burbank? Anyway.

2:12:39 Santa Monica. It might have been Santa Monica. And they had this. That's where they did the NVIDIA. There it is. So we roll up, and there's 15 private jets. You know, oh, that's Peter T. Thiel. That's this guy, you know, all these PayPal Mafia guys, all their jets were all parked in a row. And then they had a big hanger and they had kind of a track, and you could take a test drive in the Tesla, which at the time was just a Lotus with a battery in it. Yeah, I had one of those. Of course. And you'd have somebody else. You weren't allowed to drive. You'd be in the car with them and they would drive you around the track. And there was a big LED scoreboard and it showed everybody's name who had bought one.

2:13:23 I think what they're $125,000, I think, at the time. I bought James Taylor's used. Wow. I got to pick these names up. You mean James Taylor, the guy who said F Facebook in your movie? Yeah. By the way, you had me so confused. I'm like, because my memory is going. I'm like, did we have that scene? And I'm like, trying to, I'm like, what scene is he talking about? And then you sent me the letter of somebody that thought that I produced Gran Torino, the Clan Eastwood movie, which is Gran Turismo. It's a completely different movie. There's a lot of misinformation in the world, baby. I'm telling you, a lot of misinformation.

2:14:04 Anyway, tell your Elon's story, then we'll thank some people who sent some value back to the show. I'll just tell how I initially met him. I cold emailed him. And I said, I can't remember the email, but basically, like, I think that we should make a movie about you because kids these days are looking up to people like Michael Jordan and Eminem, and I forgot who else, but I think kids should be looking up to somebody like you. This was before he was known. The Tesla Model S had just come out. This was years and years ago. And I just fired off this cold email and he replied. And he said, Yeah, come down and meet me for lunch.

2:14:43 Let's have lunch at SpaceX. So I went and had lunch with him at SpaceX. And he was exactly as you described, very awkward and odd to talk to. But we hit it off and just ended up becoming friends. And he said he didn't want to do a movie at the time because he had a lot more to do. Clearly, that became true. And so he said it wasn't time to make a film about him. And we ended up becoming friends and spent a lot of time with him. He was, I remember taking him to a CAA party one time and they went and let him in and they didn't know who he was. And I was like, are you kidding? This guy's like the, you know, Thomas Edison of our time. Let this guy in.

2:15:24 And I took him into a CAA party and introduced him to agents and managers and people there to set the actresses, essay it, actresses. No, no, no, no. Ironically, it was pretty funny because I remember a lot of the agents, they were just too busy doing that and talking to all the actors and actresses there and trying to, you know, just smooze them and completely ignoring him. And it was like the next day, I started getting calls from agents like, hey, was that that was Elon Musk? You brought, can you get us in touch? Can you get us in touch? And ironically, one of the guys I put him in touch with was one of the large investors in SpaceX. And now it made a fortune off. It was Calacanis. It was Jay Cal.

2:16:10 No. J Cal and I, we've never here. I'll tell you, he and I never spoke. And if he's listening right now, then passing my number because we probably should. We DM'd years and years and years ago and had discussed about meeting up and grabbing lunch and doing that usual. And we never actually connected. What happened with the friendship? You don't even have his number anymore. What happened? What friendship? With Elon. We became friends. We're hanging out. We were there with his phone, with his phone number. Honestly, I'm horrible.

2:16:49 Even you, I haven't, I don't save people's names with the numbers and I just go back and literally literally lost his number. Yeah. But I occasionally would email with him, but I think I became more of a pain in his ass because I was just emailing whenever I had problems, like my solar panels, I was having issues with that when they wouldn't install them on a standing seam roof. And when issue with the power walls, you became an annoying friend. The annoying friend. You became that guy. See, I have Rogan. I totally did. I have Rogan's number, but I don't text him, you know, because I always think, who are the people who contact me and say, oh, you know, this or that?

CHAPTER 21 / 23 Discussion

Podcast Strategy and Future AI Movie Plans

The hosts brainstorm a plan to produce an open-source AI movie and document the process on GitHub and X. They discuss using appearances on The Joe Rogan Experience and with Alex Jones to promote the project. The segment includes a reflection on a failed podcast idea with John C. Dvorak titled "Party Line" that never materialized due to logistical disagreements.

joe rogan· alex jones· github· open source· ai movie· podcasting

2:17:31 And I'm sure he's got a million people like have me on. So I only text them when I see him on TV in Washington. Like, hey, I see you in the back. I see you with Trump. That's awesome. And he always, no, no, he loves that. He always texts me back. back. He says, I'm going to wave to you. Here we go. He loves it. I never, I never, he was like, you need to go back on Rogan. It's like, dude, that's not how it works. You're like, hey, Joe, put me on the show. No, it doesn't work that way. I am due, though. I am due for another appearance. I personally think. Anyway. Yes. You're due for another appearance for what? On Rogan. For what? Just to talk, to catch up.

2:18:12 But you have to, you can't just go on and talk to catch up. You got to be about promoting something for the reason that you're there. No, I've never been on there to promote something. He just, he says, I like talking with you. That's why I have to talk about it. Yeah, no, that's when you're supposed to promote this show. Well, I always do, but I'm going to say, no, man, wait until my movie's coming out. There you go. That's what you're going on for. Of course. Of course. All right. So here's how it's going to happen. Okay. All right. So you and I are going to keep working on this. We're going to get with Jay Cow, and then he's going to get us back in with Elon to do the, we're going to do the first AI movie and the first release. And that's going to be the big, the big

2:18:56 reveal on Rogan. It's going to be the blockbuster. Yeah. You don't know about that. And then we're going to sell it to Paramount. So it's part of one of their 30 movies. Well, remember, I have the Christian money guys in my back pocket. We don't need them anymore with AI. We're good. They have top dollars. They just did that Young Washington deal. They got money. Yeah, but with AI, do we need it? Oh, and Scaramonga. We got to get Scaramonga in on this as well. Scaramonga. Woo! Okay. Well, that's actually not a bad idea. What you're saying there? I think we should open source all of this.

2:19:38 We're going to write it in real time on X. Yep. And you see, I used to write. We're going to build it in real time, just like everybody when they're building software and everything and telling everybody what they're doing. We're going to do it. No, we're going to write it on GitHub. We're going to have a GitHub. But we're going to tell everybody what we're doing. We're going to tell the people what we're doing on X, and then they can go to GitHub. They can go to GitHub to get the source. And then download it. And then we're going to write a manual on how to make a movie in AI. And here's the perfect example. And we're going to brag about how much money we made doing it. And I made $80 billion with this movie written in AI and produced in AI.

2:20:21 And here's how you can too. And then Apple is going to do a deal with us, one of those deals like with what's his face from the Beats headphones? Oh, Dr. Dre. Yeah, we'll do a Dr. Dre type deal. No, no. Well, yeah. Well, but they're going to buy our formula. And then I'll go on Rogan and on Alex Jones to promote it. What could possibly go wrong? This is great. No, you're putting a cart before the horse. You got to do Alex Jones and Rogan before, and then that's what's going to make it a success. And then that's going to build it up. So then we sell it to Apple. Yes. And

2:21:01 it's going to be on the iPhone Duo 3. It will come included on the iPhone. Fold. Or whatever the. No, it's called a duo. And wait, you'll be able to create your own ending of the movie. Yeah. You can choose your ending. Adam dies. Adam winds up a lonely old podcaster spitting in the microphone or he winds up hobnobbing in California. There you go. With JCD. It ends with you and John sitting on the beach going, we did. Oh my God. Just as soon as I said that, my Order of the Ant thing just fell off my desk.

2:21:42 I really am grateful that I know you. I don't know how this is, this is a God thing. I just love that we got to know. Well, you've replaced. What did I tell you before? I said I found a new way. The time change when I can get on the phone and talk with you. This is what me and John did. And so we're just doing it here on the show. Yeah, except with John, he had a million ideas and nothing came of it. I'm going to make this happen. We're going to do it. Look, I say you're talking about the movie. I'm just talking about me and you having a conversation. No, I know. The next time I do the show, I'm going to take gummies. Deal. Oh, that would be interesting. But I'm sure John always had some idea or something.

2:22:21 We should do this, do that. No, the only thing, the only thing that he did say that he and I should do a podcast, and we did talk about it. And it was, I think it was titled Like Party Line. And it was basically going to be him and I on the phone. And what he, I wanted just to keep it on the phone, and he didn't want it. do it on the phone because I wanted to be able to do it from anywhere. And then we would just call somebody in, and we would just shoot the shit for however long it went. And that was going to be the podcast. Why didn't it happen? Because neither I wasn't going to do it and do all the legwork, and he wasn't going to do all the legwork. And so we just ended up just talking to each other, and nothing ever happened.

CHAPTER 22 / 23 Discussion

Value for Value Donations and Knighting Ceremony

Adam Curry reads donations from the "Value for Value" model, thanking producers for their financial support. Several listeners are inducted into the "Order of the Ant" in memory of John C. Dvorak. A formal knighting ceremony is held for Dame Media Equals Virus and Sir Glenn of the Drink, complete with traditional jingles and peerage titles.

value for value· donations· knighthood· order of the ant· peerage· john c dvorak

2:23:01 You got to love it. You got to love it. All right, we're going for another record with time. And so let's. Yeah, we're going to do fine. Hey, I'll sit here and chat all day if you want. Yeah, that's what I like about you, man. You want to play some more clips? Are we going to do tip of the day? War? Yeah, you know what? You forgot my new creation. What happened in this year in 1906? Show number 1906. Oh, okay. Let me think. What happened in this year, 1906? So we had 1902 with the Wright Brothers. Was it 1902? Wasn't it? No, 1903, I think, 1903. 1906.

2:23:47 Wasn't there a. You want to hint? Yes, please. You had it last show. The last time I asked you this. Edison's electricity? You think I remember any of this crap that I talked about? I don't need gummies to forget, Dana Brunetti. It was the great earthquake and the fire of San Francisco. San Francisco, right? The fire. I was, yeah, okay. There you go. There you go. The fire in San Francisco. We have a when are we doing tip of the day? And hold on. I got to thank some people first because it's a value for value podcast. People support us by telling people about the podcast. People support us by making end of show mixes, making beginning of show mixes, making middle of show mixes these days.

2:24:32 Much to the chagrin of some, much to the delight of others. I really don't care. I think it's fun. I like it. People are having the lyrics. It's all about the lyrics. It's not even so much about the execution. It's about the lyrics. And of course, people also make artwork, the artwork for the previous show, which we titled Nerd Balls. That was the one with Jason Callicanis. I wasn't so fond of this one myself, but there really wasn't a lot of choice. Geek Girl made it as a cowboy wrangling all the different AIs. You know, it was okay. Ranch 33, but it was, yeah. I wish there was something better. Thank you, Geek Girl, but it just wasn't quite exactly what I had hoped for. So hopefully we'll get better for today's show. And we always want to thank people who supported us financially, Time, Talent, and Treasure.

2:25:15 You can always go to NoAgendadonations.com, support the show. And we thank everybody. Sorry, I just boiled up the art generator. No, I don't want to look at it. I'm sure it's great. I'm sure it's great. You'll have to hang around after the show. Help me choose the art and do the title. I don't know if I want to be part of that, but. Yeah, no, you got to be. You got to be. $50 and above. We will thank everybody. And of course, if you come in, if you're fortunate enough to be able to support us for $200 or more, not only will we guaranteed read your note, but you also will get an associate executive producer credit, which is real.

2:25:54 Just ask Dana Brunetti. He's there on imdb.com with all of the other No Agenda Associate Executive Producers, or $300 and above, and you become an executive producer. And that goes for the following people who also still, I guess, is the last trickle of Order of the Ant. So we thank Mark Aloser, who came in with $333.33 plus fees. Has no note. So, well, in this case, I'll just have to give him a double up karma. You've got. Karma. Bad Bruce comes in with $333.33 plus the fees. Switcheroo, he says, for my smoking hot wife, Katrina.

2:26:33 21 years, and we never had a fight. May she be as legendary a soldier in the Order of the Ants as she is in the Lord's Army, taking dominion over those kitchen counter creeps as mandated in Genesis 126. I think that's where we have dominion over them. Andrew McFadden, Order of the Ant, Switcheroo, could you apply this Order of the Ant to Cindy Bozek? She shares John's mission, and I'd like to make it official. Thank you very much. You got it. Tom Bushey, Order of the Ant, Surveyor of the Northern and Northwestern Lakes. Scott North, Order of the Ant Donation in honor of John C. Devorak and my own ongoing fight with those six-legged bastards.

2:27:15 Rest in peace, JCD. Sir Matnick, Order of the Ants. These are the last ones. Earlier today, I sent you my donation in memory of JCD and his many years of contributions on the best podcast in the universe, DH Unplugged, which is every single Tuesday night, 8 o'clock. I think it's 9 o'clock Eastern. Eastern. DH Unplugged, InfoWorld, Tech TV, and for his lifetime of patronage to flip phones and squirrel mail. Oh, man, do we still have that squirrel mail jingle? That just reminds me. Squirrel Mail. Squirrel Mail. Yes, we have it.

2:27:59 Let me just take a look. I'm not sure. Again, nothing. Yeah, classic. And Sir Matnik continues. My meager donation is dwarfed by the value I've gotten from JCD over the years. I love listening to Jason Calicanis and Rob Dew, among others.

2:28:37 You are now among the others as hosts. And would again like to voice my support for a Mimi Dvorak segment as well. Oh, she's coming. Hang in there, Crackpot. I'm hoping to enjoy many more pods of the best podcast in the universe for years to come. Damn you, Ant. 73, Sir Matnik. He is Kilo Bravo 9 Uniform Julia Echo. All right. Day, I'll be right back. Okay. David Martine, 3333. Love you guys. Thanks for keeping on the path. Glenn Bukowski from Sanford, Florida, 3333. And he says, This donation brings me to knighthood. With the peerage committee's approval, I would like to be knighted Sir Glenn of the Drink. While the show will never be the same without John C.

2:29:22 Dvorak, God bless. The two episodes with you and Jason Callakanis were excellent. Another one coming Sunday. Thank you for keeping the No Agenda show going, and I want to thank everyone who has assisted you by appearing on the show following episode 1887. Please provide pizza and hot dogs at the No Agenda Roundtable, and please play the mac and cheese cheap cheddar melted together. Jingle, keep up the good work. Sincerely, Glenn Bukowski in Sanford, Florida. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.

2:30:01 Everybody. Onward to Michelle Renee Aponte in Denton, Texas, 333.33. Apologies for the delayed donation. If I'm not too late, then yay. If I am too late, also, yay. It's worth every penny to keep the best podcast in the universe on the air. Blessings to the No Agenda Nation and to the Curry and Dvorak families. Rest in peace, John C. Dvorak. And now we have, let me see, Manana. Do we have Paramonana? Hmm. Maybe it's called ITM Spanish. Yes, I have it here. Okay. We got that. One second, everybody, while I set it all up here.

2:30:45 Okay. Yes. This is from Freya von der Follock, Freya von der Follock. And she, this is an associate executive producer. She's in Schrafenhach in the Netherlands. All right, I'm back. Welcome back. 222.69. ITM Adam, thanks to my latest donation and a few noble switcheroos from Arno, who has recently ascended to the rank of Sir Arno. Congratulations, Sir Arno. I can now finally claim my damehood. Hooray! I would like to be known as Dame Media Equals Virus in honor of Robert Jense, who warned us about the virus spreading through newsrooms, news feeds, and algorithms, infecting the beliefs of oh, so many.

2:31:27 And I do miss Robert very much. Adam, that's me saying that. Adam, you and John have done the same in your own way with irony, with boots on the ground through the years of deconstructing everything the media told us. Deconstruction is the only vaccine that works. For my nighting ceremony, I'd like a bottle of bubbles and a Hugo Fricandel. The one of which you actually know what's in it. Yeah, sure. It's named after the Dutch former, the former Dutch minister Jujo de Jong, who once compared the COVID-19 vaccine to a Fricandel, which you should look that up. F-R-I-K-A-N-D-E-L. They are very tasty. Jingles, WTC7 and Poromagnana, please. WTC7 won't go away.

2:32:09 Poromagnana. Nailed it. Ian Field. Oh, that's it for Executive and Associate Executive Producers 4 episode 1906. Thank you all very much. Of course, once again, these titles are real. You can put them on IMDb.com. Our formula is this: We go out, we hit people in the mouth. mouth. Shut up, see now $50 and above. Ian Field with 100. Kevin McLaughlin, the Archduke of Luna, a lover of America and boobs with a boob donation, $80.08, 8008.

2:32:51 Put it in a calculator. Nicholas Leary, 72.72 from Columbus, Ohio. Matthew Elwert in Weatherford, Texas. Small boobs, $60.06. Austin Allen with the small boobs, Roseville, California. And Dame Liberty Mom, also with the Small Boobs from Vista, California. Surprise Night of Astonishment, $54.44 from Yukon, Oklahoma. Forrest Martin with $505. Andrew Benz, Imperial Missouri, $50.05. Alex Delgado from Eptos, California, 50. These are the 50s. James Gonzalez from Lancaster, California. Linda Lupatkin. She is the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes that get results at imagemakersinc.com.

2:33:33 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K. She's in Castle Rock, Colorado. And our last $50 donation is Michael Myers from Diamond Head, Missouri. We thank everybody very much for returning the value to the best podcast in the universe. It is highly appreciated. Please consider donating to the show. Go to noagendadonations.com. The whole idea is simple. Whatever value you got out of the show, put a number on it, send it back to us, noagendadonations.com. You can even set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. Just send the value back. Noagendadonations.com. It's your birthday. And we say happy birthday on behalf of Rocket Boy to his smoking hot wife, Rocket Girl.

CHAPTER 23 / 23 Discussion

Meetups, Tips of the Day, and Final Credits

The show concludes with a list of upcoming No Agenda meetups across the United States and Europe. Dana Brunetti provides "Tips of the Day" regarding lying on security questions for privacy and using the iPhone spacebar as a trackpad. The episode ends with a "Book of Knowledge" segment on Kevin Trudeau and final musical credits.

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2:34:17 She celebrates on the 26th. And two days ago, John Estvorak celebrated his birthday. So we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday. And do we have title changes? I don't think we have any title changes. Did you want to say something, Dana? I was just letting you know where I went and one of the advantages of living on a ranch. I had to take a leak, so I just stepped outside my office door. I saw this last night on Ted Lasso. What? We followed Ted Lasso. I never thought I wanted to watch Ted Lasso. I haven't watched it, should I? Well,

2:34:55 it's about football, about soccer. Yeah. The premise is fun. Now, this season, they have a female soccer team. Anyway, there was a question in there. It's like, where do you go to the, what is it? Where's the bathroom? Wherever you go. Something like that. Behind that tree. Exactly. Order of the ants. That's right. Order of the ant. These are the absolute last ones. Mark Alcocer, Katrina Bruce, Cindy Bozek, Tom Bushey, Scott North, Sir Matnick, David Martine, Glenn Bukowski, and Michelle Renee Aponte.

2:35:43 Is it Aponte? I think it was something else. Was it Aponte? Let me double-check. Yes, Michelle Renee Aponte. All of you now, officially in the No Agenda Order of the Ants. Order of the Ant. Go to noagendarings.com. Let us know where to send this pin. Dana, do you have the handsome Order of the Ant pin and certificate there near you? I do. That's what I was talking about. Those are my comrades with me in this order. That's what I was talking about when I was talking about JCD. I have it sitting up on my desk. And as soon as I started talking about him, it fell off. Hmm. Hmm. Coincidence? Read the book.

2:36:23 Do you remember that? Remember that infomercial? Do you remember that one? Which one? Which one? It was like Mysteries of the Universe. And we're like, is it a coincidence? Read the book. It was a great pitch. Read the book. What was that? Yeah. Is it Dianetics? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me see. Let me see. This is a very good question, actually. Let me see. Oh, you know what? You know what we can do? We can ask the Book of Knowledge. Okay, let's see if the Book of Knowledge is. Yeah, we haven't used it at all. We haven't. I feel kind of bad. A Book of Knowledge. What infomercial always ended with the tagline, read the book? All right. Let's see. Book of Knowledge has been a bit weird lately.

2:37:08 I hear a hum coming from the Book of Knowledge. Yeah. This is taking a lot of fan on the processor. According to the Book of Knowledge, that would be the infamous Kevin Trudeau, whose late-night infomercials for Asterisk Natural Future. They don't want you to know about repeatedly deflected detailed questions by directing viewers to read the book. His ubiquitous late-night infomercials promoted unsubstantiated health, diet, and financial advice. It ultimately earned him a ban from the FTC and a $2 million penalty for misleading American consumers.

2:37:53 Thus, it has been written. There you go. He sounds drunk. Book of Knowledge is off his rocker these days. Something wrong with it. Hey, man, do you have a blade there by any chance? You got a sword? Yeah, hold on. This book that I got from, or this box that I got from John. Okay, you got the sword? Yeah. Beautiful. Somehow, there's three swords now. Hey, one night, one dame Freya von de Falk. She said she wanted a knighting, but of course that would be a daming. So up on the podium, you go. Hey, don't misgender her or him. And Glenn Bukowski, both of you, I am very proud to pronounce the cade as Dame Media equals virus and Sir Glenn of the Drink.

2:38:37 For you, by request, we have Hookers and Blow, Ren Boys, and Chardonnay, Pizzas and Hot Dogs, and Bubbles and a Jujo Fricandel. Along with that, we also have pepperoni roll, pepperoni rolls, and pale ales. We got Rubiness, Lumen, and Rose, gates, and sake, baka vanilla, bongheads, and bourbon, sparkling cider and esports, gin drell, and gerbils. And of course, as always, at the roundtable, the mutton and meat, or at least whatever Brunetti hasn't eaten already. You too, go to noagendarings.com. Take a look at that handsome No Agenda Knight or Dame ring. It's a signet ring, so we always include some wax so you can seal your important correspondence with it. And it always comes with an official certificate of authenticity, which I believe are still signed by JCD in advance.

2:39:19 So you get that. And just tell us what ring size you need, and we'll send it off to you along with the address, obviously. And welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames. A couple of meetups taking place, and you definitely need to visit one of these at least once in your lifetime. The North Georgia Odd Month Meetup takes place at 6 o'clock today at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. On Saturday, the tiny amygdala of Anchorage Unite to celebrate fall. Ah, you gotta go. 2 o'clock Alaska time, Campbell Park. That's the Airstrip Trailhead.

2:40:01 Bring your otter in Anchorage, Alaska. No reports today. No meetup reports. You should send them, people. We do like it. Also on Saturday, Squim. Come on out. 2 o'clock. That is Pacific Coast wet time. And Mimi is organizing that one at Barhop Brewing in Squim, Washington. So go sai to Mimi. Our next show today, Sunday, Let's Get Fresh East Texas. 3:33 Central in Longview, Texas. Dirty Jersey Horror organizing that one. These DJWs meetups are legendary. If you can make it out there, I suggest you do. For October. On the 1st, Raleigh, North Carolina, Midlands in the UK on the 3rd.

2:40:38 Indianapolis, Indiana on the 4th. The 9th, Los Banos, California. On the 10th, we have 3, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquell, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina. The 16th, Phoenix, Arizona. Long Beach, California on the 17th. And Fredericksburg, Texas, also on the 17th. Keeper and I will both be there. Join us at J6 or Jenny's place. Smithville, Texas on the 24th. Los Altos, California on the 24th as well. And the final one on the 24th is Tilburg, the Netherlands. Go to No Agenda Meetup, please. You will not regret it. It's fun. You meet people. These meetups will probably continue long after the show is gone because these relationships, the connections that people make, they give you protection.

2:41:21 They will also be your first responders in any emergency. Go to noagendameetups.com. Find one near you. If you can't find one, and they're all free, by the way, start one yourself. There's no fee for that either. Noagendameetups.com, always guaranteed a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You to be where you want me, trigger to hell aim. You to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Hey, an old-fashioned ISO off. ISO off. ISO off. Here we go. Wait, wait, before we go there. Is that the first time that somebody has done a nighting other than you and John?

2:42:08 Yes, I believe so. Okay, hold on. All right. So Rob, zero. Jay Cow, zero. Dana, one. I always cut him off. I cut him off, you know, like, yeah, get out of here. Yeah, get out of here. I just, I don't want to, like, yeah, that's fine. You're such a good guy, Dana Brunetti. All right. I have one ISO. You have three. Of course. Just one. Okay. Yeah. Here's my ISO. Do you want to go first? Yeah, I'm going to go first. Wow. Oh, that was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. That's a producer Steve sent me that one, so I'm happy with it. I'm happy. What do you have? Okay. What do I have? Go with Amazing.

2:42:53 It's actually amazing. Yeah, Trump, always low energy. Yeah, and it's got some background noise, but try much better. Much better. Here we go. It sounds much better. It is much better. And it's much more accurate. Fun message. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Okay. Okay. And then give up. Hey, we're giving up. I don't know, man. I mean, when I played, when I listen to that, I mean, it's got almost everything you need. I mean, I'm good with that. There we go, everybody. Hey, this time once again for the tip of the day, done by its creator. Green fast for you and me, just the tip with JCD.

2:43:38 And sometimes Adam. All right, Danny Brunetti, with your tip of the day. Okay, I actually have two. Oh, donations seem a little low, so I'm trying to bring a little bit more, some more content for the value. All right, the first one I have is, you know, when you have to do security questions for like bank stuff and your mother's maiden name, street you lived on, your pet's name. Yep. Yeah. So the tip with that is a lie. Don't ever tell the truth on a security question. Yeah, but then you'll forget when you need the security question. Well, you need to remember the lie, but that's, I guess, a priority.

2:44:19 Well, why is it? Why is this a tip? Why is this a tip? Why is it a tip? Because if you do use your mother's maiden name or your pet or your street you grew up on here, I'll give you a perfect example just with those. Do you know how you come up with the porn name? Yeah, I forgot how to do this. There's different variations. There's a soap opera name and your porn name. And they all use the three things that you just said. Oh, that's right. So I would be, let me see, my mother's name. Well, don't give it away because then you're going to give your mother's maiden name when you're going to do exactly unless unless you haven't used any of those on your security questions.

2:45:00 Okay. I do know one street address when we lived in Maryland. I don't use that one because I always forget how to spell it. All right. So it's your middle name with the street you grew up on. No, that's no good. Clark Mitcher? No, it doesn't sound right. That's Clark Mitcher. That's no good. All right. All right. All right. Great porn name. Wow. I can't wait to watch that one. It's a stunner. Clark Mitcher is starring in it. Nice. I don't know if that's necessarily straight porn. So, hey, don't judge. All right. Your second tip. So on an iPhone, like when you're, you know, or on an Android, you'll have to check this on Android.

2:45:45 But on an iPhone, you know, when you're trying to move your cursor or the little blinking line, if you're trying to get back in between a word to type something or to put in a space, hold down the space bar. And if you hold down the spacebar, it turns into a trackpad and then you can move it to wherever you want it. What? Hold on a second. Let me see if this works. I think on an Android, you might have to hold a spacebar and move to the left or right. Hold on. Let me see. This is interesting. Okay. So I hit that and I hold down the spacebar. No, I get changed keyboard if I do that. You have to have, I think you have to have the G keyboard for it. But on an iPhone, you hold it down and it turns into a trackpad and then you can move your thumb around.

2:46:26 Yeah, I'm not going to use the G board because then everything I type in goes to Google. Yeah, whatever. If you carry a cell phone, they got everything on you, anyways. Two tips for you today, ladies and gentlemen. Go to noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net for more. Greenbacks for you and me, just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti. Created, hosted, written, and voiced by Dana Brunetti. Or is anybody else bringing segments to the show? What do you mean, segments? Oh, new segments? Like the year, the show year? Yeah, or the tip of the day?

2:47:10 No, nobody. So Rob, Rob, Zero. J Cal Zero. Dana how to J Cal calling me out on Twitter. Come on, it's on. Hey, man, go easy on him. We want Elon's number. Remember, think of your future, baby. Think of your future. We don't need it. We'll just get it in Crockbot. Dana, thank you so much, man. I really appreciate you coming on once again. And I think we have J Cal Sunday, then Rob Dew is back. And then maybe you want to come back again? Yeah, I'll come back. Yeah, do the gummies, though. That should be fun. Oh, God. Can you imagine? I'll do it, but I can't.

2:47:49 I can't get it. It might be a little remember. J Cal Zero, Rob Dew Zero. All right, everybody. It's J Cal Boom Gummies next time. Now that would be hilarious. Two Jess Baker and the show mix is coming up. And after that, we've got Bowl After Bowl, Sir Spencer and Dame DeLurian. Remember, I said noagendadonations.com until Sunday. Adios, Mofos, whoey-hoo-eye, and such. Morning says annihilation, evening says very good.

2:48:33 Three hours at the table underneath the neighborhood. Maximum pressure, posture, minimum distance talks. Thunder at the microphone, handshake in the dark. Everybody needs a home crap, thinking someone else gave ground. So the thread becomes a trailer, and the meeting loses sound. Annihilate by breakfast, constructive after five.

2:49:11 Funny how the headline dies while diplomacy survives. So cut the clips, check the sequence, watch the adjectives migrate. No agenda reads the fine print. After television takes the bait No sponsor picks the villain, no boardroom writes the frame. Value for value keeps it honest. You produce the game time. Talent, treasure, keep the signal independent. Best podcast in the universe. Constructively,

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