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00:01 We need a suicide jingle. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's April 8th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 189 This is no agenda Tracking crazy car's eyes, poppy intake and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gibbon Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I'm Adam Curry It's garbage day here in Northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning... In the morning to ya John Yeah, morning to you Hey we started on time almost Nooo we missed it by two minutes That's doing pretty good

00:43 Yeah, let's see if we can end on time. That would be a winner I don't know man there has been alot of stuff going on We have the long one extra day in between shows On the Thursday show It's just like huh, there's so much. Yeah, but you know luckily a lot of it is tied up around Tiger Woods by the way staying off as we speak Wait a minute you're actually watching that while you're on the show No, I don't care to watch him not gonna watch it at all and I'm gonna watch two reruns Because you'll know if he won or not I don't care not worth it yeah, it was um yeah There's a lot of weird stuff going on

01:25 Well, what do you have on the top of your weirdness list? Well the weirdness list has to be and maybe Maybe just tease it and then we get into it after we announce our producers This all of a sudden this guy from Council on Foreign Relations and another guy from the United Nations come out and say well President Karzai of Afghanistan he's either a mentally ill or he's smoking his own dope. He's a stoner! It's like, what? I saw the same stuff What can we do to get this guy not cooperating? So let's make up some stuff

02:08 The guy is the president of the Council on Foreign Relations like, okay. Could it be any more obvious they're setting him up? It's like what?! It's just nuts. I don't know what, what did he do wrong? Isn't that...I guess he wasn't playing ball with some...I guess he was supposed to be doing something and he is not doing it but we don't know what that is Well it puts a whole bunch of things into perspective First of all Obama's visit to Afghanistan Right on the heels of that comes this news You want just..should we play this little clip Where the guy actually says he's like on drugs? Yeah, play it. Okay hold on a second... It was on uh I think it was on MSNBC

02:51 And it was just the craziest, it was like on a morning show. Now this is the thing that's kind of interesting... Oh what happened there? It just went away He threatened to join the Taliban. Yeah, which by the way turns out to be completely and totally bogus he denies it and everybody around him says this is bullshit I know although Interestingly enough it's The Associated Press that came out and said that and now AIDS

03:28 to Karzai deny that he threatened to join the Taliban but it was Associated Press who and CBS was also all over this. I mean everyone jumped on the bandwagon, i guess without either a sourcing or just taking The White House memo. Last year's election so he would lose well Peter Galbraith joins us live this morning from Norway and sir let me ask you what... So this is a former United Nations dude and he's in Norway for some apparently important reason. So President Karzai is behind the scenes threatening to join some Taliban he just met with President Obama two weeks ago do we think he made that same threat to the president in their talks? I'm sure he did not

04:16 But these charges, at first they were almost amusing. As I think many people know, I was actually fired by the Secretary General because I wanted to do something about the fraud in last year's election and of course the fraud was organized by Karzai's appointees and he was the beneficiary of it But this continued tirade raises questions about his mental stability. And frankly, this has been something that has been of concern to diplomats in Kabul. This is great, isn't it? So this guy was fired by Bunky Moon. Is that who he was fired by? That's what he says...that's what it sounds like. Wait a minute! This is kind of interesting. He's former UN. He was fired by the UN because he was trying to bring the fraud in Afghanistan to the forefront and these guys got some great cover stories you think they're just sitting there at night going hey

05:12 I know how we'll do it. Listen, we will get some guy who was fired so he won't seem like an official but then we'll get him to say some really crazy stuff. Very emotional Well, he's prone to tirades. He can be very emotional and act impulsively In fact... In other words it is his time of the month Some of the palace insiders say that he has a certain fondness for some of Afghanistan most profitable exports Do you think he's smoking the... that he is injecting the H? Is he riding a white horse or do you think he is smokin' the Afghan black tar, The Black.

05:56 I just thought he was talking about tomatoes. Listen to these MSNBC yahoos, like woah! Woah! Wait a minute... If you're going to make that allegation let's be explicit about it So your saying he has his own substance abuse problem? They can't even say it. They can't even say dude he is smoking dope That's weird But they have to skirt around the issue. I'm not- There are reports- Sorry, what? It's baffling that they can't just say it. For some reason, yeah because oh if you're gonna make those allegations... They don't want to know they're like we can get sued Oh shit where is the talking points memo? What are we supposed to say here he is going off script! So to that effect but whatever the cause is The reality is that he is He can be very emotional These are things that are not at all in the interest of Afghanistan Maybe this is part of

06:56 the anti-marijuana legalization lobby, John? It's a stretch. I don't think so. It is. All right. So we can talk more about that first let's introduce the executive producer for today's episode of No Agenda today being April 8th 2010 this is episode 189 Yeah, we actually have two executive producers and two associate executive producers today. Okay? And Curiously the executive producers both gave the exact same amount of money nice 333 33 now they're going for the triple play with the magic numbers if you donate three times $330 $333 and thirty-three cents then we kick in the extra penny and make you a night

07:40 Rene Schwartz, S-W-E-R-T-Z from Harlem Netherlands. Ah! Rene, dankjewell Yes and he's doing it but he is not going to be the one executive producer He is doing on behalf of Milo Lise de Kemp Oh, so be named. So what do I put Renee in here or no? I guess that's a new right? Yeah And she's a newborn and he's calling out her parents as being a I Guess you know, I don't know if they're listeners to the show or whatever but he's calling them out as horrible people I don't know. Why? There's no real explanation, he just is... So that's what he said. He was trying to embarrass him by giving Milu the executive producership, I think. So Milu is a newborn? Yeah! Oh great! That's our youngest executive producer and just as talented as any executive producer in Hollywood And what a career she has ahead of her. Yeah that's an early start

08:43 Yeah, that's better than like a Tiffany bite ring. I mean let's be honest about it yeah, I think everybody out there should do this because you'd actually have these kids a Legitimate item on the resume that will have people baffled Going like wow you started early young business is a long time This kid will actually grow up to be a world leader and it'll be a black mark under resume. That's always the drawback Okay Right. David Eichler, I-C-K-L-E-R, Marion Ohio His wife Jessie's looking for work as a registered nurse, so he figured he needed to donate to the show. Good thinking! This is an excellent... well actually when we talk about our supporters later on yet more examples of the Karma Club donating to No Agenda. So it does seem to work. Okay Milu Lisa De Kemp and David Eichler or Ikhler? What do you think? Eichler. Long I is in ice.

09:44 Today's executive producers, the associate executive producers are John Keith Bradshaw Statesville North Carolina. The prettiest state in the country at $200 and Jonas Astrum also this exact same amount so we have kind of a balancing thing another two hundred dollars from and he's in Vindland Sweden excellent He also says happy birthday to me I'm not going to play the jingle. No, you don't have to please don't yeah You uh you celebrated i guess you kind of celebrated and then yeah so um that's it yeah That's that's our people paid for today's show okay thank you very much Milou Lisa DeKamp and David Eichler as our executive producers today associate executive producers Keith Bradshaw Jonas Astrum we really appreciate your support put on your resume will vouch for ya and go out and do this Our formula is this

10:41 We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Shut up slave! So if Renee or Milou's parents continue she could also be the youngest knight? Oh that would be interesting Think about that for a second huh...we'd have to make smaller rings Well, they can pound them down. I think it's yours. She wouldn't be able to lift her hand. Hey kid! It is built for growth you'll grow into it and grow into your knighthood now we really appreciate this is a real credit as you know and you as I said you can put on your resume and also put in your email signature lot of people doing that its fun to see that

11:37 Yeah, yeah we'd like seeing that. And maybe I should just quickly mention a couple of not official PR associates but people who are doing the work Drew Larson sent us an ode and said now I'm a college student at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay I had a very entertaining chance to promote NOAA Agenda At our school We have a student art gallery that changes every week This week we had a viewer participation showing which is basically a graffiti wall anyone who stops by can add to I thought it'd be A great opportunity to slip in no agenda show calm on the wall when I got there someone else has beaten me to it All right. Yeah, I Love it that's awesome. No agenda show calm showdown yeah this is good and then actually Randy Asher Is it know agenda stuff calm that he has?

12:24 I think that's his website. He says he had 16 items sold and he sent us our cut Paul B is still out there in California putting stencils up on buildings rather large. Yeah, just make sure you don't do anything illegal No, please don't we're gonna see Paul on the news one night It's a little easier You know if Paul, uh, you know in California typically the way they have laws written most graffiti writers are under 16 and they can't really do much. And I kind of did, they'd really burn out about you know when they turn 17 because or 16 is when they transition because if they can get arrested and the penalties are a lot worse so The best ones that are actually the most prolific because then get away with it are usually 15 year olds and... Yeah John go ahead why don't you promote using fifteen-year-olds? You're on a roll here this is great

13:24 So I think we should have all the 15 year olds out there. Cause they're safer anyway, yeah that car is probably illegal what i did so I deny it sorry I didn't mean it That Carzai thing was really weird and you know the guy's clearly headed for disaster And this guy was educated in the United States. His brother has a whole chain of restaurants Yeah, I think he used to hang out in San Francisco yeah, I mean the guys that like he was part of the club He's on speedballs or something. Who knows? The guy is on drugs and he's gonna flip This really is incredibly weird They're probably doping him Think about that too You got a CIA guy in there put a little something in his coffee

14:15 I mean, he was a supporter of the Taliban back in the day. I don't remember that Oh yeah! He was. That's news to me. Oh really? No no no...I have the whole history here. That is probably bogus. But not during our occupation. He was there right after the Russians And the Mujahideen, which of course... Look, Karzai was CIA. I don't know maybe it's a CIA wars type thing that we should be looking at here but he is definitely headed for an oops my airplane exploded in the air type event Oh yeah! Yeah no I've been waiting for that

14:56 And I was watching... Shut down or you're accident, there'd be some ran into a hill or shot by enemy fire. So whoops! So watching Geraldo tying into this By the way hold on Now we talk about him plowing into a or getting shot out of the air. Don't you think we've already set the public up for that possibility by having that video floating around with the guy with the RPG Apache chopper I want to talk about that and we definitely have to have a conversation but before we even get to that

15:33 I saw, now Geraldo was on once a week right? It's like the weekends. And you know I grew up watching Geraldo when he opened Al Capone's vault. Oh that was just riveting! And he brought some plates from the Titanic and it was like this... He was one of the first kind of brazen crazy-ass reporters in New York. Yeah, I was in New York at the time he was just becoming really like this guy and he was an ambush reporter Ambush reporter remember? He got the chair thrown at his face on a show dad that look like it was rigged yeah of course It was rigged so he's uh in this is over Easter weekend. He's in Afghanistan with with our troops

16:20 And he has this unbelievable... And Walgreens. And he has this, pre-roll. He has a pre-roll for Walgreen's. He has this unbelievable report which I'm putting in the show notes and you have to also see it at noagendatv.com The whole thing was just from beginning to end blew me away because it really shows This is on Fox & Friends by the way who was doing his special report It really shows what we are doing in Afghanistan and you know that I hold very tightly to my theory that we're just there for the poppy harvest. And this report basically corroborates it. Listen to this. Welcome back, a pleasure this morning as Geraldo Rivera embedded with troops in Afghanistan's Helmand province right now there is a new effort underway by US troops to help control Afghanistan's opium production which is a serious problem in the region Yeah let's go live this morning to the forward operating base in Marja where Geraldo is enjoying an Easter meal uh...this morning here in the United States with troops there good morning to you Geraldo

17:25 Hi Dave Clayton and Allison. Yeah, it's usually meals ready to eat those pre-prepared meals but it is Easter Sunday afternoon and they're serving steaks the Marines are very excited they lined up early they are enjoying a rare treat in this and this forward operating base where just 48 days ago... Here comes the first bit of propaganda. ...or rather helicopter-borne invasion since Vietnam took place there was some bitter fighting in the area come on in Captain Brulee... He brings a chaplain in, there's a whole bunch of guys lining up behind him which is by it's completely staged

18:03 Because when they have food, the line is not outside. It's inside a tent so they're all outside lining up You know, getting their steak. It's just completely staged and I was like oh bring the chaplain in! Hey Chaplin come on in! This is the chaplain from the 1st Battalion 6th Marines as the guys line up for their steak dinners they had bitter fighting just a few hundred meters from here are you know they used to say in previous wars there are no such thing as an atheist... What's that in English? I don't know. A few hundred meters? Oh yeah, you know the funny thing is a few hundred meters means that these guys could fire a rocket right into that line if they're that close. Easily! Well it gets better you will not believe this In a foxhole is that true yes it is true very true so tell me how the young marines what they say to you especially on a day like today

18:51 They're just thankful to be here, thankful to be alive. You know? Thankful that they've been protected through all of this and they've been through a lot and they are just happy to still be here ready to go home see their families And you have the service in one of the tents at 20 hundred? Yes sir Alright Chaplain thank you and Happy Easter to you Totally useless information Okay so now none of them are in combat gear your absolutely right A few hundred meters away So anything could be lobbed into this thing any time But they're all calm, they're lining up for their meal.

19:36 They just had a fight there and they're 300, you know 600 feet away and they're eating their outside. No no nothing at all okay now wait it gets better the Taliban has gone into the shadows yes they're still attacking sniping uh and setting off those improvised explosive devices Yeah, they're attacking. They're sniping No, no they are not we all having a nice Easter meal That these gigantic marine armored vehicles protect the guys against But you have to know that the main fight right now is an anti-drug fight It's counter narcotics fight Okay You hearing this right?

20:14 It's a counter-narcotics fight. Just so you know, forget Osama Bin Laden now it is a counter or narcotics fight. It is to get the poppies that grow in such abundance here that are fueling the Taliban insurgency and if you want to see exactly how close the vast fields of poppy, the opium poppy are just take a look at this Just to give you an idea of how pervasive it is and how daunting the task of eradicating the opium around here I want to show you how prevalent it is just in the shadow of the United States forces Here to try to wean the population off this addictive drug. Oh, yeah What does that mean?

20:53 like they're not all stoned, they're growing it dude to wean the population off this addictive narcotic so he's walking over to a gate inside the camp. Follow me into this compound just scant feet away open the old door that has been here for quite awhile and what you see is a wonderland of opium. It's like, like a poppy field for as far as you can see right outside the gate they are protecting the poppies dude! As far as the eye can see That opium is what fuels the Taliban insurgency. They're a lot like the FARC rebels in Colombia, whatever the Taliban started as right now they are narco-traffickers and they are fueling their death and destruction with money from those opium poppies that feed heroin addicts in the four corners of the globe so on Easter Sunday maybe that somber note let me go back to you guys in New York

21:54 So the camp is literally, I mean it's on the ditch. There's a ditch and then there are these poppy fields and they're not like they're burning them no the guys are just waiting because their waiting for i guess the Taliban to say we're ready And then go pick him up put him in the plane fly out It's funny we never had any trouble using Agent Orange in Vietnam just to knock out some foliage They can just dive bomb these fields with a bunch of plant killers and that would be the end of it. It's a... Oh wait, I'm... That'd be the end if they actually wanted to take them? Yes! So it's so confusing and then until I run across one other story which confused me even more because I'm looking at these troops you know they're in line now granted this is the forward operating base

22:49 You know we've talked a lot about there being, in Iraq at least when I was there they had Burger King Pizza Hut you know all kinds of fast food chains and now the who is it Commander Sergeant Major Michael Hall wrote in a blog post Quote supplying non-essential luxuries to big bases like Bahram and Kandahar makes it harder to get essential items To combat outposts and forward operating bases where troops who are in the fight each day need resupply with ammunition food and water He goes on to say, you know We're in a war here now in this article. They casually mentioned the following

23:37 Chains, I would have to say American fast-food chains that are in Afghanistan operating and serving for our troops Pizza Hut TGI Fridays Burger King Dairy Queen This is nuts Orange Julius I thought Orange Julius was out of business, that's interesting. Warning that concessions like Orange Julius, Dairy Queen and military car sales were also on the exit list Paul said less obvious changes were coming too including fewer canned and bottled goods coming into the country What is going on over there? Is this not war mongering? Our troops need a healthy meal

24:26 They don't need Burger King and Orange Julius. You mean war profiteering, not warmongering? Oh yeah, profiteering I'm sorry Yeah, profiteering! It's nuts these are big government contracts The funny thing is McDonalds is never one of the companies that does this I find that peculiar That is interesting Well Pizza Hut and Burger King are the same company aren't they No I don't think so Really? I thought they were Whatever the case is Pizza Hut is everywhere in these places So you think they serve Coke or Pepsi I'm sure it can't say in the article. No, no, it doesn't sir Coke more than Pepsi It can be both well you never know You never know anyway Just like what and I think yeah? I think that finding this story to be just distressing It's just we should which we should just stop Afghanistan coverage on our show it's the same thing. It's just ludicrous Well week it's hard to stop the coverage Because it's so it's so you know that makes the lie even easier

25:24 We can't. Someone's got to be saying it! Well, all I know is that it's just ridiculous. So we had that video which of course propagated very quickly that WikiLeaks had been teasing for a few weeks They had decrypted the video and there was supposed to be a big cover-up, and here we are in 2007. Apache helicopter gunships murdered quote murdered 12 to 15 civilians and everyone has a take on this oh yeah And I'm very confused This is some confusing aspects to it Well first of all you know

26:11 Who says it's real? Just because the State Department or Department of Defense says, oh yeah that's a real video. I mean it could be anything! To me just feels like there is reason this is coming out and deep in my heart I'm starting to doubt WikiLeaks Well you know, of course this could be disinformation but there is story going around WikiLeaks as a front for the CIA and we have one our themes on our show that there was a CIA war uh... between different groups with you within the agency or was it with other agencies over to obama administration we don't know and will never figure it out we can just speculate and uh... if that was the case though if they had any connection this uh...

26:56 Video and all the transcription, radio traffic chatter was could have been planted for some embarrassing reason. Not sure I also maybe just to put a meme in this because you know as it's being analyzed to death by the Internet You know, there's apparently some guy that looks like he has got some huge weapon with him and he stands it up at one point. And then he kind of peeks around the corner and points it at the chopper. Then you see a little... if you catch the frame, you see a little bit of light coming off the device which everyone thinks is an RPG thing that takes down these planes

27:33 which would, to me... if that finally gets to be the main meme to come out of this thing then they're going to use that to make it sound as though these devices are all over the place and then when Karzai's plane gets blown up is gonna because of this. That means we need more troops or we have to do something about it And the problem I have with when the guy comes around the corner with the RPG and points it at the chopper, clearly he sees the chopper. But nobody else seems to see these things. Well yeah you know that the choppers...I was talking with a couple of service personnel over email and a couple pilots so we're trying to figure it out. You know essentially if you look at..if you evaluate

28:18 the time between shots fired that you hear on the video and the impact, it's a couple seconds. So we estimate... It actually is two seconds I timed it Yeah so we estimate the helicopter must be at about 5,000 feet You can be pretty quiet at 5000 feet or can be just another speck in the sky That's pretty high up But the conversation is like why don't we show some of those dead troops coming in? You know, that would be more shocking to people. You don't see that no one's going after those photos of the coffins draped in the American flag you don't see that anymore That has been banned effectively by the Ministry of Truth and it was like what what are you expecting? The way I read this story is there was a helicopter covering Bradley

29:13 which was probably a hundred meters down the road that's 300 feet in English and And then there's this view of the RPG. I mean, there's so many different sides to it but it's like don't you understand the basic premise of Boys and girls throwing hot lead at each other in the desert is kind of stupid to start with I mean doesn't doesn't anyone like see that? Okay This is what it is What is the point? You know, oh they're laughing. Well dude why don't you go sit in the desert for four tours and see your buddies blown up and getting shot at? See if you laugh if you score

29:56 Yeah, well there's that element and we don't even know how much of this chatter is accurate. It could be completely put together for all we know! I don't...I don't know There was an awful lot of traffic. We had two or three...I think i have a list here out of all these different monikers they had Bushwacker 8, Bushwhacker 9, Bushwhacker 7 which I assume are the choppers because it would be you know bushwhacker get it It looks like a weed chopper. And then they had, um... A bunch of other hotel and all kinds of other monikers there was about 10 or 12 people on the channel talking about this and different people giving orders to shoot and other guys demanding the shooting I couldn't really tell which are the- I didn't analyze enough to figure out which is the choppers uh moniker doing the shooting but it's beside the point The whole thing is says a sketchy

30:46 perhaps planted video and I still think it might be to create the idea in people's minds that planes can be shot down with RPGs and they're very dangerous, and then if something happens in the next few weeks regarding one of them we already know what they are. Yeah, I don't think an RPG would be very effective at 5,000 feet. No and right that's the other thing yeah so the whole thing i think was just introduced the rpg to be very effective of a airplane that's taking off or it's in the final approach or something like that uh i think And then there's the press angle you know um...of the Reuters You know this also looks more like a video from a drone to me

31:34 No, well I had those thoughts as well But it pretty much yeah You don't know you just don't know but the whole thing you know an NPR had the WikiLeaks guys on Put that actually already put that in the show notes. Yeah 5000 feet how do they get? You know they way their maneuvering around the building is kind of sketchy this I think they just moved the boom there were always behind the building now and then the angle of the Thing at the building. I don't know The whole thing is it's just a you know, it needs more explanation we need somebody to deconstruct that video Well no one's doing that mean that's the whole problem Is it all we have was just this huge conversation? It's pro-war anti war II read comments at Dvorak org and he was like 150 comments in

32:20 It's all just the same thing, but no one is really even questioning why this is out. Wikileaks says we have to trust them immediately! I'm sorry, I don't. I just don't. Yeah, can you trust anybody? They put a lot of interesting stuff out and they really teased this that was really built up... We didn't even talk about it on the show People were being tailed and I don't know man. Who's being tailed? The WikiLeaks guys. Yeah, who are they nobody knows half of them are. They don't even know where the servers are this whole thing is very much a spooky kind operation

32:59 I tend to agree with the theory that it's, you know they say well we can't shut down WikiLeaks and WikiLeaks has got this crazy network where they can be out there because they're running some massively amazing black hats or somebody that knows how to keep these things from...how to hide a server in the giant web of internets. You know, I don't believe for a minute that the NSA or the CIA either one of them or military intelligence for that matter if they spent like you know 30 days with a team of people couldn't track these guys down and Go in there and shut down the main server and keep

33:42 you know, and kill all the people doing it. And he's not buying it now is he? If Wikileaks was a problem it would be gone! It would be gone! It's that simple! You know these guys put two to the head to everybody whenever they want to whatever... Whenever they really get close its over And now but they can't take WikiLeaks down and the way they talk about it in this NPR interview is well you know because we really have an impeccable reputation. And that's a thing the government can take down, well I'm just not buying it! I don't want to disparage anybody without any proof but... No, we like WikiLeaks. There are some great stuff absolutely yeah great stuff

34:28 But it's just, you know there is an element of screwiness to the fact that they can exist. I mean the guy...you know there are networked and I mean the thing is this does have to go through the networks and when networks are people still think well you can't take down the internet You shut down in the United States you shut down AT&T and Comcast and all the peering they do Yeah, you got nothing because there's not enough peering anymore. Nobody uses the old-fashioned internet that runs through May East and May West because it was too expensive. You had to pay for a carriage through the big pipes. And so everybody's peered with all these different little guys. They did deals. I have a thing up here where you peer with me and ends up getting out there. Then when they big pipes start buying everything else, so there's not that many small ISPs anymore

35:18 There's probably, you know there are still lots but there is not as many as it used to be. And the network is not designed like it was originally where I was supposed to be bomb proof. I got a disagree with that and mean thats... It has gone down in number of times. Yeah portions have been but the whole net never really goes down its just because of these units. Its to end user we have these huge you know like Comcast or Time Warner or AT&T. You know they used to be all this little ISPs That's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay sure there is a remnant of the thing left if you took out those big guys say take out the top 10 ISPs just take them out just tell them to shut down or else then we're gone yeah then were gone well so The United Kingdom is doing exactly that though except they're not doing it through a technical manner but they just blasted through this bill

34:28 But it's just, you know there is an element of screwiness to the fact that they can exist. I mean the guy...you know there are networked and I mean the thing is this does have to go through the networks and when networks are people still think well you can't take down the internet You shut down in the United States you shut down AT&T and Comcast and all the peering they do Yeah, you got nothing because there's not enough peering anymore. Nobody uses the old-fashioned internet that runs through May East and May West because it was too expensive. You had to pay for a carriage through the big pipes. And so everybody's peered with all these different little guys. They did deals. I have a thing up here where you peer with me and ends up getting out there. Then when they big pipes start buying everything else, so there's not that many small ISPs anymore

35:18 There's probably, you know there are still lots but there is not as many as it used to be. And the network is not designed like it was originally where I was supposed to be bomb proof. I got a disagree with that and mean thats... It has gone down in number of times. Yeah portions have been but the whole net never really goes down its just because of these units. Its to end user we have these huge you know like Comcast or Time Warner or AT&T. You know they used to be all this little ISPs That's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay sure there is a remnant of the thing left if you took out those big guys say take out the top 10 ISPs just take them out just tell them to shut down or else then we're gone yeah then were gone well so The United Kingdom is doing exactly that though except they're not doing it through a technical manner but they just blasted through this bill

36:14 They're gearing up for an election and they had the digital economy bill, which I think we even talked about a couple years ago when it was up for comment in Gitmo Nation East. So 40 guys showed up the other day, 40 of the 646 ministers of parliament and they passed a bill. They must have locked their doors like don't come in we're busy here! We've got the bandana on the door please go away and so this is

36:50 This is the bill that allows the government to basically cut you off from the internet altogether. Let's not mess with the backbone, let's just chop you off! And that of course is if you are downloading copyrighted material and there were huge advertisements in the newspapers from the creative industry because that's what this is being billed as. The creative industry is losing jobs and money because of people stealing music and movies, the creative industry. What do we get out of London? England! What do we get Harry Potter movies? No they're produced in the US aren't they No, I think they produced the... Okay well also James Bond has got a thing. Oh yeah we can't live without that! And we need more Pop Idol crap from Simon Cowell So they actually will send you a letter Yeah because then they're starving to death these people

37:41 Well, St. Gilbert... They're starvin' to death because of the piracy Yeah! They got no money I don't know what to do So they've rammed this through it is now law and by the way this is something that happens apparently quite often right before an election they pass a whole buncha stuff Because it's the passing of the baton, essentially. So we know that David Cameron will be the next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and he is just on the other side of the same team He is on the caboose end now and I'll be pulled up front It's going to be exactly the same thing Nothing will change And they pass all these laws Who is a better looking guy? They had to get brown out because of the gold scandal They have to create some noise about that

38:31 So anyway, sorry about you Gitmo Nation East. I will do my appeal again to all sysadmins and network admins of the world we better start getting our mesh network plans together We're gonna need it because they are gonna take it down What do you think John I think we got five years you and I well, you know they gave Obama the div You know They guess he finally passed that thing where he can pull the plug on the whole thing and in a national emergency Oh yeah, there should also be a health emergency by the way with based on the treaties and then the bill that just passed and all the rest of it

39:07 So if everybody needs to get a flu shot for example, they can shut down the internet. What? You're not taking your flu shot?! Oh okay watch this you fool! Hey slave take your flu shot or we're gonna unplug your iPad and watch people go. Oh no! Not the iPad Also in the health care bill right along those lines section 203B of the healthcare bill States all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section shall be deemed to be commissioned officers Of the regular corps and then in c2b we have the ready reserve course shall be available and ready for Involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises Similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel. So there's your

40:02 There's your troops on the streets. Yeah, absolutely. We need troops on the streets. Somethings gotta be done to this unruly American public. Not taking their flu shot! Which is... I'm really loving the uh you know now people are like hey this health care thing that's not like where is it? It's not helping any and they're trying to explain it. Go to HealthReform.gov This is fantastic so there's this website because people are calling up and saying, hey where do I get my free healthcare? Yeah sure they are because they've been misinformed. They have been completely misinformed in fact there's a great article one of the only articles actually

40:52 health reform dot gov. So I'll read this article while you're bringing that up, two weeks after President Barack Obama signed the big healthcare overhaul into law Americans are struggling to understand how and when the sweeping measures will affect them questions reflecting confusion have flooded insurance companies doctors offices human resource departments of business groups they're saying quote where do we get the free Obamacare? How do i sign up for that And so President Obama is out trying to explain it to everybody. Look at this website! Tell me anywhere on this website how anyone, and I'm reasonably intelligent...I don't get it

41:31 It's not answering anything. Let me click on California because there is a big map, ooh, big map with little highlights. Click on California to get health insurance and reform under reform in California. Here is how you will benefit but it doesn't say sign up? There is nothing to sign up for! And it doesn't say when? Of course most of this doesn't kick-in until 2014 The first line, we had... Had we done nothing by 2019 the number of uninsured people would have grown by more than 30%. Alright so I just want to sign up. About? Do i click on about now? The past it tells me all the stuff that's coming that's coming is coming timeline and events maybe there no it's completely you can't understand it

42:27 There is no where does it say if you are 62. No, no, you made your point it's useless this totally useless and a complete waste of money probably cost 8 million dollars to implement his website And now our friend Mr Volker Paul Volker who has pretty much become the head honcho of the president economic team he said well you know what We may just have to raise taxes Really, huh? I would never expected that here. This is from Reuters Volker answering a question from the audience at in New York historical society event which by the way these are great events to attend

43:13 said value-added tax is not as toxic an idea as it has been in the past. You know, we called value added tax almost two years ago on this show and also said a carbon or other energy related tax may become necessary though he acknowledged that both are still... So no matter what the public thinks about anything screw them! We're gonna do this stuff that would be way we were trying to do it by going through the normal process but everybody didn't like it so we're just gonna do it anyway To quote Paul Volcker, if at the end of the day we need to raise taxes... We should raise taxes! There you go. Now they got the right man for the job. Let's play some clips Yeah good I'd like that whatcha got? Well uh... We're gonna do some real news here Oh okay then uhh.. I'm a little slow on the ball John. You know as soon as i show that new controller with that giant iPad button

44:15 And now, back to the real news. What did you play? Uh... Did you play Explain? I'm sorry. Yeah, fuck it. He was giving us those fist pumps back in the mid-90s. Never mind! Drop it, drop it. I know what it is. I know what it is. I'm sorry they came in the wrong order. I understand. It's about Tiger Woods. This is the whole thing this was the big thing about Tiger Woods Is that he pumps his fists

45:07 And that was like a new thing on the golf course. He's pumping his fist! I'm sorry, let's... That's bogus too by the way the golfers have been doing stuff like that they've been doing there usually the more horizontal pump lot of them did that deal boom-boom and then you had Ballesteros who would shove his putter like a sword into is into his belt. There has been grandstanding going on forever except yeah because the game is so boring and stupid then he got to do something to get a little exercise I mean in the olden days when you walked a course that was like, you got a day out on the links. You're walking around now they're in little carts... Oh! They walk!

45:49 his little speech there. The guy's had a lot of medical problems, like towards Achilles heel they have to re-inject plasma into his leg and knee. It was dangerous sport this golf thing! When you put yourself all into it apparently it is stressful Yeah I thought it was supposed to be good for ya! And basketball safer! It really not okay So, I was noticing something interesting. I was looking for some clips and decided to go through all the Access Hollywood extra-extra and all the other shows. And I realized...and I got a teaser up here...I realized that if anyone should watch these shows either Extra, Access Hollywood or there's two or three others

46:37 Their whole show is teasers. They never do any of this stuff. Yeah, they never actually show you anything I know. It's just all your play this teaser from Actors Hollywood Extra She was there when Lindsay was in rehab she's now engaged to Lindsay's father what she revealed to us about Lohan family fallout? I can honestly say then oh I've done it and as an age bucket before didn't vote on I thought I needed it. Plastic Week continues with our Dolly Parton exclusive! I'd rather you think that I had plastic surgery than to think that I wasn't lying. Plus, our exclusive look at the same-sex marriage movie Breaking Down Barriers Tomorrow on Access Hollywood now number one Coast to Coast

47:18 Alright, coming up next we are out on a date with Tina Fey and Steve Carell. And later the big plastic surgery revealed at least a gastro procedure turned into a nightmare! I'm swollen...I'm not perfect. And today's AH Nation has Tiger and Jesse going head to head in alleged affairs and you're sounding off it's all coming up Get social with your entertainment news check out the all new Access Hollywood Gadget. Okay stop. No no no I gotta hear the whole thing now I need the full paint of it. It was like two minutes and it was just, it was teasing and then the teasing to teething is unbelievable! There's no credit in them when they do a little packages there stirred like shorter than the teeth are. It's hilarious. And now that everyone's on recess...

48:05 Even C-SPAN is boring, except Rupert Murdoch was on C-SPAN last night in an interview that was kind of interesting. Big lion sack of shit! But there's no news at all and so it's all this and then CNN started out with Jesse James, Tiger Woods, Lindsay Lohan... I'm like what? What naming name what and now you know luckily oh a joy Behar, you know I cooked the chicken the other night No, I did one of these three-hour chickens. I'm really getting into it And I'm like a house frown here and I'm watching I'm watching HLN headline news which apparently Joy Behar is headline news and It's all about Jesse James being a Nazi

48:52 And it was weird because she's Jewish and so, you know... It is a very uncomfortable conversation where they move from the guys collecting Nazi regalia to he is a Nazi. It's just like wow man this really deep stuff that happening here! This is really not okay So we have a guy covered with tattoos who's a motorcycle character and he is a Nazi, huh? Hmm. He's not a Nazi. That's bullshit! I know he must be. But he's not... he's not a Nazi this is it's just like ah

49:35 I guess i won't, I guess I've done the tech hippie and the org and the uh... tech rod. I'm not gonna do the tech nazi. Tech Nazi is exactly what you need to do You will buy the iPad! Yes now it will happen immediately he would do exactly as I say And then last night, newsflash! Oh Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper. Oh stop oh we have a shoe bomber Yeah there's the glass thing. What? Talk about an out of control story You know well there is alot of things to this story that I found interesting One it is a diplomat from Qatar which is kind of in the... Qatar or cutter yeah I like to say Quattar but I guess its Qatar

50:20 So first of all he has diplomatic immunity so he can basically do anything he wants. Okay now what have we learned from this story? We've learned that there was an air marshal on board if it's true, so that's interesting little messaging right there. We have air marshals who jump on this guy to... He probably took a huge shit in the toilet and lit a match That's probably what happened. He was like oh I don't want it to smell up the plane And then I'll say, oh he's lighting his shoe on fire. But he was also on a flight from DC to Denver which as we know is the new New World Order headquarters The CIA has their new big beautiful offices there and there's all kinds of interesting government buildings popping out of nowhere So that was a lot of interesting stuff in this story

51:12 and I immediately start scanning the channels for what is something's happening somewhere else we got it as we gotta find it where Is it because you know something else is going on when they do this? Yeah, you would you find nothing Oh, I found... No! I'm sorry. There's nothing. I found nothing. Huh? Well then it must have been really buried. I was a little bit pissed off although in a weird way is wrong of me to be pissed off because i wanted to say on this very show and people may not believe it but i wanted to say next earthquake indonesia

51:53 And lo and behold, we get an earthquake in Indonesia two days before the show. Yeah but what was your rationale? Oh dude! Well first of all... Dude?! Dude dude dude China Indonesia and China there's like they are so in bed together and this was one of the main reasons Obama maybe he was supposed to go to Indonesia on vacation and then all a sudden like oh I can't go because we've got to pass the health care bill which is bull Of course. So he didn't go because they were probably, someone had their finger on the switch like you might not want to go right now but he was supposed to go to say hey could you please stop messing around with China so much? You're supposed to be with us! Now also... He was probably really pissed off they moved that statue of his They put up a statue of Obama as a kid, as a boy and they moved it out of a public place into like a schoolyard or something

52:50 Where did they put it? What, were the kids peeing on it or something? I don't know. And maybe there's also this little sidetrack of maybe he'd like to tell them hey you better shut up about me being not being American. Oh yeah that could be that. No but the big thing is China Indonesia has increased its trade and also its defense ties with Indonesia. And China, Indonesia's just increased it with China so we have the special forces, PAPASUS, and I have all these links by the way in the show notes at noagendashow.com They've got all kinds of strategic partnerships It's China! This was exactly the same thing with Chile

53:41 It's China. I'm telling you, there is a... You know they speak of the great game right? The great game and all the big players are in it and it's Russia America and China this what going on with all the stands well by the way Kyrgyzstan, is it Kyrgyzstan? No one can pronounce these that why never in news its Kyrgyzstan Russia is now going in there and you know, there's blood all over the streets in Kyrgyzstan because they don't want China to grab hold of them. And America, of course really controls all these stands with all the color revolutions so the only one America really still controls his Georgia and it's because of all the oil pipelines and all of the resources and China is bad news right now for us not that I care Well, you should care deeply! I don't care...I really don't

54:36 They're already we already know that they're infiltrating us. You just don't see him Okay I Guess the earthquake shows anticlimactic the earthquake since you didn't make the prediction in time well, uh i'm going to make another prediction on sunday so yeah, you know in a way it's It's anti-climatic The funniest thing was that Deepak Chopra claimed credit for the earthquake What? I missed that one. Yeah, he twittered... hold on bringing up his Twitter right now He says uh Where is it? Hold on he's a I think he is Deepak Chopra on Twitter here It is had a powerful meditation just now caused an earthquake in Southern California and then So that was the one in Baja

55:36 And then, was meditating on Shiva mantra and earth began to shake. Sorry about that! Yeah this is not Deepak Chopra I don't even think he can use a computer... And i think it is, I think he's verified. It's not verified. He's a verified Twitterer yeah I think he is So uh well I think he's some weird character anyway he doesn't believe anybody actually exists So before we get to the one hour mark, I got some bank stuff. There was an interesting piece that was done... on PBS and the News Hour, which is underwritten by everybody in their sister. And it was about a trend going on around the country and I think they're trying to kill the trend about how community banks smaller little banks like the ones we use exclusively as a matter of fact. Yes if I need to bank I need to go to San Francisco because that bank is not represented in Southern California

56:38 Right, but I will tell you I find it's a similar bank down there No But I like them and I call them up and they know me by name. They'll do anything over the phone for me It's like oh You know they call me up say hey your daughter because of course my daughter I open account for her There she's overdrawn yeah But but they're really nice you can they call you up about stuff? They just that they give us shit about me And they didn't have any tarp money And they brag about not taking TARP money. The funny thing is, one of the things I like about them is that I can use my ATM card anywhere and when it says at the end of... I go to Wells Fargo put the card in take out a couple hundred dollars and says for this process you have to pay $3. Do you accept the fee? Yes! We're using so much energy on this transaction

57:27 And by the way, they should be giving you $3 because the whole idea of ATMs was to save them money on tellers. Those guys, anyone who charges you. If your bank is charging you 10 cents or anybody else 10 cents to do one of these transactions with a teller and you're getting ripped off anyway so the bank we use which I'm gonna tell you who they are because they are in San Francisco Bay Area and I recommend them it's The Mechanics Bank. They've been around since the 20s. Yeah basically the bootleggers used him Well, somebody did we don't know that for sure one of the yeah there actually where they're looking it's possible But anyway, they give you the today. They the mechanics bank as a you know that I guess all these banks They don't have to you know accept the charges so they pull those charges off Yeah, they don't pay two three dollars like say yes sure here's your $3 and then never

58:19 they never get paid the $3. So anyway, so community banks good idea which I think it is a good idea you know because It makes sense to have a small bank in your community who you can go by the way they're always saying if you need alone we really can give you alone yeah If you guys need a business loan for no agenda? I'm like I don't think so Not a good idea We're not very creditworthy But they'll give us yours if we wanted it We probably could get a business loan. Now, so let's play the community bank one long which is the... You don't have to play the whole thing or break it up a little bit but they're doing this story on this bank out in the middle of us in the East Coast someplace I can't think of the name off hand but they mention over and over again and then he tried to... And the guy who was doing the report is incredulous that these this bank is so involved in the community that they know who their customers are

59:13 and that they have all these goods and services, so the guy to counterbalance the report talks to the head of Mellon Bank in New York who is a big bank. And then the big bank guy who's just a stooge goes on and on about how much more you get from the big bank, and how better the services. By the way, the big banks screw you! They screw the customer their services are no good they charge for every little thing they can The prices aren't right, there overpriced it's a rip-off but listen to this character Most of our employees work in live here in the community so their families can take part use this as well

59:53 It was getting a little sweet for a jaded journalist, but fortunately I'm- Wait! Hold on a second. This is the PBS McNeil... What is it? McGlare News Hour? It's just the news hour. It used to be the McNeill-Larry Report Okay now its just the news hour And he says that it's getting sweet in other words there are so many people complimenting this guy and his bank He's throwing up Yeah, I'm so sick of this. I am supposed to be shilling! What's wrong? ...in various circles So I asked a really big banker why shouldn't I move my money If you think you can get other products and services that are superior to a large bank then go for it Robert Kelley CEO at Bank of New York Mellon who suggests thinking back just 25 years We had 20 thousand banks in this country

1:00:40 Now we have 8,000 banks and my guess is 10 years from now we'll have 5,000 banks or 4,000 banks. It's good to have lots of competition but the reality also is that bigger bank offer generally better products and services at generally really competitive prices." I just got a stop for second because what happened 25 year ago was there was regulation change where banks, these small banks you had a bank everywhere were allowed to do interstate commerce. And this was before the internet really before it was prevalent and if you needed to send your kids some money in college it was very difficult and the reason why people jumped on board of these banks or these big national bank is so you could do that. It was like the interstate commerce aspect because now we take for granted how easy it is to PayPal someone some money etc., or just get them some cash

1:01:31 This was probably right now. Western Union was all you had no the big the big Big Bang felt here's a Real that wasn't the reason they did this of course because that's an example That's the reason why I big banks became popular for the common man, I believe Well, it's possible but I don't know. But the thing is that big big banks City Bank and all these bank of America in particular a couple of big whoppers They were kicking ass all over the world but they foresaw the day when the big giant like the National Bank Of Germany and all these big giant huge banks that were bigger than they were We're gonna you know beat them in international commerce and their economic hitmen

1:02:09 So they said, we got this bull that we can only have branches in California. Said the Bank of America which was a California based bank. We run branches why can't we have a branch in Nevada? It's right next door and so they passed this law saying okay you get it This is one of the things that caused this recent depression by the way They said, okay you guys can have banks. You can do whatever you want so instead of actually opening branches elsewhere they just started buying up these little banks like crazy with offers they couldn't refuse and it got too big to fail and now that's the reason things consolidated. It wouldn't have obviously if government hadn't changed these regulations and there was a good reason. And the reason is what you just saw with the economy collapsing for not having banks all over the place, national banks competing with each other because it's going to be just like AT&T once you let them

1:02:59 to sell out like everybody else. They say they never will, but they can be squeezed out and that's what happens when these other banks get really big but the fact that this guy is just lying to through his teeth about the better goods and services and competitive prices it's just enough to make your system take all your money out of these big banks back to them in the longer term trend will be

1:03:41 fewer smaller banks in the nation for that reason. And as Nobel laureate economist Paul Krugman reminded us recently, small is not necessarily beautiful It's possible to have a banking crisis even without too big to fail you know there was lots of small banks that collapsed the financial system in 1930s Indeed 140 banks failed in the past year with another 702 just added to the FDIC's problem list Moreover, says Robert Kelly... We also have a gigantic economy which you can't run with a lot of really small banks. You need big successful sophisticated profitable banks But the Village Bank is profitable? What?!

1:04:24 Profitable. Where's that part of it? Profitable! I do want to mention that the FDIC now is trying to convince pension funds, right so the people who hold your pension money to invest in new financial products that will be made available to the government to bail out banks that fail. Just so you know, screw your pension! You ain't ever gonna get it. It's gone. Kisses goodbye." But you don't need to be a large institution in order to be successful. This is the head of the community bank. Oh, okay good As a financial institution today How often do use your ATM? Are you local ATM user? Do you travel alot? Yeah I use my ATM alot and i travel alot No problem says The Village Bank's Claire Messina Yes but how about new technology

1:05:22 At my big bank, I can deposit a check and it takes a picture of the check and then gives me the deposits with the picture. So i feel as if... I get the same thing from Mechanics Bank! They got pictures on their website Yeah, well I mean apparently Village Bank doesn't so he's got leverage on it but who cares? I don't need a picture of my check anyway. We can stop playing this clip and go to the kicker which is his wrap up of the whole idea of taking your money out of a big bank and giving it to a little bank where you get customer service and better services and all the rest of it. And the way he does it,

1:06:02 Yeah! And you guys do too as well? Yes. For over 40 years This is beginning to seem like a complete put-up job No, I mean really it's this is like ridiculous You know nobody's gonna believe this watching us on camera What you don't believe wait no one's gonna believe this that people love their community bank apparently

1:06:42 Okay. No, I believe it's my eye but literally everywhere we go isn't there? Are these ringers what have you done here? No no no ringers these are just our customers and so that's the case for moving your money to a community bank The case against that is a futile if feel-good effort to turn back the clock Okay, okay So he is saying that this community banks are a futile effort, it's all nostalgia you just want to turn back the clock. You're not participating in progress! Progress moving forward at America is that what I'm hearing? Exactly Okay let's continue We'll see Well we'll see...we'll see slaves For the record one of the banks Paul mentioned in his report Bank Of America Is A News Hour Underwriter

1:07:33 At least they're honest about it. Yeah, you know they felt they had to do with the report was just that they couldn't Do it without saying that oh my god called out if that's all right so called out anyways bogus there You go there you go So Bank of America underwrites this show and they do a show where they can't believe that this is This backwards, this completely antiquated nostalgic idea of community banks. Oh that's so wrong! You need to go with Bank of America because they're our underwriter." You're right John I'm so happy you brought this up This is exactly why we don't have commercials now. We do believe in value for value and we need to get paid for doing the show, we spend a lot of time doing it and quite honestly I'm not really you know...I think we've gotten to a point where

1:08:23 You know, people are saying oh I'll do your website and i really appreciate it. I appreciate everyone trying to hook us up and help us out no we would we need support in the form of money because that's what we need to pay bills with okay here we go We have some we did get some support this week and I want to name some names uh Stephen Schnabel from Gosport Hampshire UK gave us 111.11 Now I believe we... He says he's given it in recognition of the fine work contributed by Jeff Smith. That's beautiful! I think we skipped Matthew Wittering on

1:09:00 Matthew Wittering is next on my list. He was from last week, somehow got dropped. Matthew Wittering who gave us $50 last week... Can I just give you a quick little side note? Oh okay! Beautiful day here in Gitmo Nation East the general election has been called an air of optimism across Great Britain this morning received a phone call from London South Bank University Coming back to me about a job I applied for in late February early March and offered me an interview for later this month. On Saturday, it actually donated $50 to the Fund For Hookers And Blow which i believe has realigned my karma and created this opportunity for me to interview for a real job

1:09:41 So he's part of the Karma Club, which... Wow. We should go... we could do... ah! Karma Club. Karma club yeah We got to put together a list people in the karma club because there are tons Excellent so Matthew sorry for skipping and thank you for your $50 donation it really helps. Rory Buska B-U-S-Z-K-A which has to be pronounced Busca He says he wants to donate just to see if I can butcher his name. I'm glad that reputation now. He's from Carmel, Indiana and he gave 77.70 and he is donating because he thought it would be funny to hear me butcher the name blah blah blah. He wants to call out his friend Zack Brown as a douchebag. Because he turned him on to the show but has not donated

1:10:30 And the significance of the number 777 is religious. He says if the Antichrist prophecy, the number 6666 of Revelation comes to power during my lifetime you guys will probably have some mention of it! So the Jewish numbering system 777 is symbolic of the Trinity anyway Thanks for the good show. He thank you. Thank you, Rory John Snyder Chicago $58 and giving me a happy birthday one dollar for each each year of your By way and thank you very much fifty eight dollars anyone who it's fifty eight dollars next week I'll give him a special call out Oh rich

1:11:15 Sure. S-C-H-A-G-E-R-L. Shagirl. He's from Vienna. Ulrich, it'll be Ulrich. Ulrich? Ulrich. Is it an I or L? Shagirl. It's the way on the PayPal thing is S-C-H... Ulrich! S-C-H-A-G-I-R-L Yeah, shagirl Chagaro. That's a tongue twister. Yeah, for real 5510 two nickels on the dime he said now member of the militia but not the militiamen Gordon Walton Austin Texas 55 10 I can't just say something about The Minute Men because Minute Man Tom did want to remind everyone who is donating double nickels on the dime that's $55 and ten cents There are some duties that need to be carried out there's a responsibility that comes with that type of support here they are

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1:12:45 And he's so right you must carry for your night exactly carries a blow All right, okay. Yeah those things you have to do So you think about that when you get 50? Don't just be cavalier and donate okay? It is the big otherwise just give us a room You know random number Rubens Zhang Z H an G's in Canberra out there in the middle of nowhere Australia 5510 and encourages us to three shows we need a rest these people gave us uh... fifty five ten which includes erin spears wrote roebly lejeune the june baton rouge but i have something for uh... and spears here i see uh... double-dealing with that okay and then scott boulin in monroe michigan air and uh... spheres in brook park ohio is a wishing a happy birthday donation which of course we've encouraged up on the second john

1:13:43 It's your birthday, birthday! I'm just a little bit jealous of you. What? That's it, keep going. Can't wait for the whole... Yeah yeah yeah yeah, I'm so excited for you. Okay, so it's Aaron Spears donating double nickels on the dime wishing a very happy birthday to his amazing wife Kelly on her 30th birthday and also a plug for The World Of Cinema podcast worldofcinema.com So uh Is that all it takes to get a birthday mention as double nickels on the dime? Well, until we change it. Alright! Kelly happy birthday from your hubby Aaron Spears! How professional was that? What? How professional was that? We were borderline a lot of times...

1:14:40 So that's our group. We also a lot of people gave us smaller amounts of money and anonymously, and we thank everybody And by the way go to no agenda show calm and work org slash na and if you want to donate directly to the stream Which is a separate donation good? and Dvorak org slash nas and donate there. Also, if you can't get to the donation page go to channeldvorak.com slash NA. We need your help we needed... Yeah we do! No we do! Time flies and so does the money Well just the amount of work that were doing for these two shows I mean i can imagine doing a third show at this point in time without actually having to give up all my other work. I don't see how we could do it

1:15:31 Yeah, no there's too much time. It is a time-consuming process I basically lose Wednesday doing this show yeah all of Wednesday as well and Saturday Yes, Saturday gets kind of wasted And I think that that's why they got Thursday show usually has more interesting stuff because we have an extra day to work on it And back two interesting stuff yeah well the Gulf of Aden which i believe isn't that down there by Yemen? I don't want it did ya That's exactly where it is okay so my darling This is, I'm getting a lot of reports and it seems to be that over the past seven days there's extra activity going on in that area which is part of what is known as the Delta Quadrant.

1:16:17 There are tons of naval vessels basically circling around, and I know you're going to laugh at me but what we are calling the Stargate Aiden. No not what we are... What do you mean we? You got a mouse in your pocket? Yeah! I do 300 naval vessels Have been circling around this stargate which is the bottom of the sea there. It's about 7 miles down and from the reports that I'm getting, is there are these huge cigar like ships that are coming out of the Stargate going up into the... No, listen. But they have to decloak at a certain point as they come out of the Stargate so they're visible. They're actually visible and I'm pretty sure that we can get some... You got movies on this? Well no, I'm hoping that we can get some Minutemen down there so they can go take a look. Some Minutemen in Yemen! It is undeniable- now I am thinking though remember all these weird

1:17:14 radar images we were talking about on Sunday, these circles now they're but you can actually see circles of ice. You mean the interference in the photo from the bad sensor? No okay you call it that but I have pictures and satellite pictures of the Arctic region and there are actually rings of the ice melted that are exactly the same type as circles So I'm thinking that maybe the stargates are activating and stuff is opening up, and what some believe is that they're putting some kind of force field or...I don't know. I'm not too big on that one but they're going to put some kind of 5D crystalline electromagnetic shield firmament around the planet

1:18:04 with a force field that will make aggressive use of weapons and personnel. Well, you know the melting of what you just described? Maybe... Let's go let's take this to a little bit beyond Okay let me bring up all these stories. Maybe, well maybe this is the whole reason to halt global warming because it has only been the coldness of the earth that has kept these guys frozen under there And obviously Gore is an alien if you ever looked at him You know, Time Magazine published this scare story about melting Arctic seas at the same time. The same day on Saturday we have all these reports about arctic ice dramatically increasing. It's like can't they get their stories straight? Or at least get the order straight

1:18:57 So, I... but I'm...I want to really there's a lot of interesting Well you keep an eye on this Adam. Keep a close eye on that. I am keeping an eye on the Stargate You can laugh at me. You can laugh at me. Yeah! I don't mind. I have some belief. No, no I think it is fine. You might well play the I love you clip then Oh okay? I LOVE YOU!!! What's that? What is that I might as well put that in the jingle machine That's a really good one you can take back to the bank we gotta play them together. I love you

1:19:41 You can take that to the bank. Okay, there you go nice He was at a he was giving his speech in one of these colleges You know like he's managed to there's a couple good stories and like in some of the more obscure right-wing Libertarian magazines and newspapers I've got one around here somewhere let me find it There is I wonder if anybody wants to donate something they can donate And I think anyone who reads this thing called The Rock Creek Free Press do you get it? No I'm surprised. What is it? It's a, uh...it seems to be something there's a kind of character named Wayne Mazden who was floating around who was kinda like Alex Jones. He's kinda like an Alex Jones-Wayne Mazden. These guys and they just put together they just collect from the looks like from the internet these weird stories in the

1:20:33 Post them as news articles and this one here is the one that got my attention, which is the White House Press Corps Forbidden to ask certain questions and then outlines the questions We'd already talked about this or yeah a new one. Well, this has gotten little more It's got a little more detail But it's you know The question is about Occidental College And when he was you know apparently working for these weird schools and again they can't ask about his record Occidental College They can't talk about him You know, a bunch of stuff. Anyways it's a long list but this newspaper which is called the Rock Creek Free Press takes ads and I think they should put an advertiser for our show in there That would be perfect wouldn't it? Yeah because its the kind of characters that you know would probably like what we have to say

1:21:16 So, anyway the I Love You thing is part of Obama's... He hasn't done a press conference for something like nine months and it doesn't look like he's gonna do any because what he likes to do is go these colleges and schools where everybody loves him. And he gives speeches and then the speeches get covered as news. This one with the I Love You thing came from when we went back to one his schools that he visited before and had nothing but fans there and some girl in the audience out of the blue in the middle of this speech yells out I love you Obama!

1:22:03 As investigators delve further into the background of Barack Obama, disturbing pictures emerging of a man who is not who he claims to be. And this is not... No it keeps looking like a CIA plant! Well here yeah well totally I mean he actually worked for uh a CIA company according to a special report issued by the blogging professor who is a Chicago Law School faculty member or ex-faculty member. He says that the Chicago Law School faculty hated Obama in this report it says, Obama was unqualified he was never a quote constitutional professor and scholar never served as editor of the Harvard Law Review while a student at the school uh... he was um... quote merely an instructor not a professor so you know that's just poorly vetted And here it is

1:23:01 I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member of Chicago Law a few months back. He did not have many nice things to say about Barry." Obama applied for position as an adjunct, wasn't even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the board of trustees telling them to find him in office put him on the payroll and give them a class to teach So yeah, it seems... That sounds fairly uh... Dare I say Manchurian candidate? Well well yeah except for that he's not on the Manchurian side of the equation. He may be an agent or was an agent or could have been or had something to do with it or a contractor who knows what because we'll never find out from this with the CIA or the NSA who knows who

1:23:54 But the fact of the matter is, there's a lot of suspicious activity and that's one reason they have this laundry list of things you can't ask in front at a press conference. And now they're just not even doing them anymore! They say screw that why would we do these stupid press conferences? We do those little radio speeches, put him in front of adoring college kids who just think he's the greatest thing ever...they don't have jobs anyway then just let it go that is why we get him through this and then you get reelected which he will by the way no matter what anybody think really i think so opting it's a no-brainer here play hannity with bachmann in pale and this is the weather this is the direction the democrats are going and i want to take his further with those some john dean material

1:24:39 What we're seeing is that the American people no longer blindly trust their politicians. Now this was Michelle Bachman, she wants to get re-elected for... Is it Senate? No no she's a congresswoman For Congress and Sarah Palin is on the road with her And, you know this is actually a Hannity thing. But they were out on the road together this week? Yeah they were out on the road and Hannity brought them in front of this huge adoring audience and he asked them some poignant questions and it turns into just a joke The funny thing I want to mention about this is that two of them... The body language is like whoa!

1:25:19 Bachman is like... You mean like lesbian? No, no. Bachman is angled away from Palin in a huge manner She's leaning against her on the other side of Palin and she's leaning away from Palin It was so obvious that she does not like Palin Yeah it's funny how they how they don't work on that. It happens to everybody, it happens accidentally I have a couple of photos of myself with people who we see... Yeah i see it on Cranky Geeks all the time you and Sebastian Ruble couldn't be further apart okay here we go A very good thing because they found out they've been had by the politicians they elected and their saying no dice buddy were taking our country back and thats why this is so exciting

1:26:10 I want to ask this last question for both of them. And, I want your reaction in the crowd are either one of you considering a run for the presidency in 2012? Just asking. Governor Palin, I'll start with you. Before I get their answers how many of you would like to see a Palin-Bachman ticket? I'm telling you this would be the lesbian ticket. I'd love it. Yeah, yeah, I'd love it Imagine the porn movies we could make a spin-offs as joke porn movies oh yeah

1:27:19 We fighting as hard as we can for our country and supporting those who share our values, share our principles. And at the same time, our lives in God's hands and asking him for direction... I want to thank Governor Palin. I can't take it anymore! You gotta let it go. And coming up, by the way he's rumored to be considering a run for the White House in 2012. After the break, the governor of the great state of Minnesota Tim Pawlenty joins us next. Alright so let me just say one thing before we forget

1:28:19 The Republican Party and Democratic Party are run by the same people. They're run probably by the big banks and wealthy families, so if you're about to say that it's... And I do agree with you now that i've heard this because this is going to be possibly the Republican ticket Well of course! Of course Obama will be re-elected. These women have no chance Well, Bachman by the way refused to endorse if you listen carefully deconstructed her. Oh boy okay think we're back now damn yeah the minute you come out with some

1:29:02 some real information like hey just so you know the Republican Party and Democratic Party are run by the same people and this is a big game it's a big show then they yanked the stream. They always do that. I hate that! Well let me finish this little commentary, there are few people on our thank-you list we have to name Yeah we had couple of night layaways No, let me finish what I was saying. First of all, Bachman never said that she thinks Taylor would be a good president. She said the public likes her she never said she was gonna be she'd like to be your vice-president She's out of this. She doesn't like Palin and that's gonna show up eventually But then they bring out this Tim Pawlenty who by the way, the Republicans think is a presidential caliber guy The guy I'm just going to be as blunt as I can the guy looks stupid and he sounds stupid He was the guy that did the

1:30:03 uh... the rebuttal to the the state of union right now that was bobby jindal no no no no don't let you have bobby jimbo there wasn't he's like a down to and it is the appointed at the last time okay yeah i didn't watch that I just, the guy's no good. Anyway so let's mention a couple more people we forgot because of my fault that cut it off in the wrong spot but we got Philip Gray from Bell Rose New South Wales who uh... says hello and he's uh... was he say the great wall of oz goes live to block no agenda for our own safety expects that they happen sometime soon it probably will tristan lennon a course i had travis when mike westerfield and uh... lease outlaying have all been putting away money for the night would layaway and then finally anesthesia trackles uh... from highland indiana

1:31:02 Some of the first proceeds plus a few bucks from my recently released Kindle book putting people first human issues in instructional technology Which sounds actually like the kind of book I would read So look for the Kindle book putting people first human issues in instructional technology anyway, that's sorry about that now I Have an interlude Unless you want to continue on boring candidates who are boring and just boring, and if they're not tongue-kissing each other or not caring. I think the point that I made was that the Republicans are not going to beat Obama in 2020. They talk a big game but I don't even know if they're gonna do it well this election coming up, to be honest about it. Even though you listen to Limbaugh, you listen to Hannity, oh we're taking the country back! We're gonna do this...they're big talkers

1:31:54 And of course, you know talk no action. And then right now I think what they've done is they've helped destroy the Republican Party by making the Republican Party a checklist party in other words it's like we're you know that You have to follow these...you have to be..you have to go down a checklist of things you have to be against uh-uh you know you have to be against abortion and you gotta be against this you gotta have you can't be for this for that there's a million things a little checklist if your Don't check them all off. You're not a Republican, you're not a conservative, you're a rhino and you shouldn't even be allowed to live." And this kind of thing is really killing the party. So there... Yes? Go ahead. All right. I have to go kill this phone call. Yeah, go ahead. No one cares about the show

1:32:37 Okay, so I have a little clip here from the United States of Europe from Starfleet Command Where our good friend Nigel Farage once again lays into haiku Herman If you don't know who Haiku Herman is, he is the president of the United States of Europe. And Nigel Farage from the UK Independent Party and he likes to cause some crap You won't see this reported on mainstream television. This not the same thing reported last week with a Haiku's thing? No no no! This is Nigel Farage laying in...this is from yesterday Okay In Brussels

1:33:20 Europe of Freedom and Democracy next, President Nigel Farage. We're in the presence of a great man today The president of Europe A man who is so important He is beyond criticism Beyond reproach he's the king Of the modern political class He is the modern day Zeus And he intends to rule us from Mount Berlimont and woe betide anybody that questions his authority or questions his dignity, or they will face severe punishment. Indeed in my case the last time we met I had one of two things to say The Parliament imposed the maximum possible fine and i'm told that if I say anything that upsets you the microphone will be cut off Well what price free speech? What price democracy

1:34:07 But you've come back to us today and now with the approval of Mr Sarkozy and Angela Merkel, you're the head of a new economic government for 500 million people. And you've launched your 10-year plan, your wish list. I just wonder have you remembered what happened to the last ten year plan that was launched in 2000? It was it was launched in this Parliament too much acclaim. It was a total and utter crippling failure even before the global recession hit and in fact all centralised EU plans fail! Just look at Look at the disastrous, ruinous common fisheries policy. And now your beloved euro has failed. It's failed politically at its first major hurdle you weren't able to come up with a plan of that summit You can't bail out Greece without the International Monetary Fund coming in To save – at least for the moment – your euro dream and yet Mr Van Rompuy your plan seems

1:35:06 We're losing, we're failing. Let's have more of the same! Let's have more Europe and let's have more failure but what really matters is the loss of democracy here you have not been elected there is no mechanism for the peoples of Europe to remove you. It was Zeus, of course that kidnapped Europa my fear is you are kidnapping our democracy You are only here because that Lisbon Treaty went through without the British people being given the referendum they were promised And as far as we're concerned, this is unfinished business. People fought and died so that we could be an independent self-governing democratic nation that was able to hire and fire its leaders and no one who believes in democracy will accept the post of President of the European Union." Thank you.

1:36:07 have been sold on the idea of, you know why don't we just all play together and be one big world government and yeah we'll solve the problems together in Kumbaya hold hands until each other a secret. And he makes me makes a great point is that people fought and died to be able to elect our leaders and now all sudden here's this complete douche who sitting there unelected and he is the Obama of Europe that his position by the way he makes twice as much money as Obama and he's going to yeah anyway. He's not wearing it no Nigel Farage is quite an amazing guy I think he's a lone voice, and uh he better watch his back! Yeah he is a lone voice that's kind of the disappointing part about this. Yeah where are the Brits? You know if I can just say Gitmo Nation East you know the Brits...I lived there for four or five years

1:36:58 They're so suppressed, they are such slaves that all they can do after a nice day at the factory is go and drink themselves into oblivion. You know go out and look at the French man! At least the French are out there burning shit and blowing stuff up John hang up the phone Hello? Yeah, yeah. You know I've got it on a mailing list. Let me tell you about this... Just turn it off! Just turn the ringer off! I just did! I took it off the hook! I mean usually don't get calls on Thursday mornings at this hour. I have more important stuff to talk about because we have some suicides taking place Oh okay let's go to the suicides Suicide! We need a suicide jingle Well that is basically all we've got

1:37:44 A chef at Euro Disney hanged himself at his home last Friday, left a note saying I can't handle it anymore kids. I will miss you but this is very interesting the way his suicide note is worded. I have to increase my numbers with fewer resources reason enough to kill yourself this by the way is the fourth suicide in a month in Euro Disney! The happiest place on earth Four people have committed suicide in the past month, huh now so I'm you know so I'm like oh that's interesting this is What's going on there? And then I find another little article So that is by the way listed under the look at my nation in in the show notes

1:38:37 The company Foxconn in Shanghai, you know what Foxconn does? Yeah they're the biggest provider of laptops and I think they make the iPhone. They're huge! Foxconn and Quant are two big boys Yes so they have made a lot of parts for the iPad as well as the iPhone For suicides In the past month This stems back to an investigation That's interesting. So here we have, yesterday an 18 year old female worker at Foxconn became the fourth person in as many weeks to attempt suicide... well she attempted suicide by jumping from one of the factory buildings She'd been working at the Lagua plant for a month Fortunately a tree broke her fall so she could just catch herself with a stick in the eye

1:39:26 March 29th, a 23-year old man named Liu jumped out of the dormitory window at 3 o'clock in the morning dressed only in his factory shirt and underwear. March 11th 930 p.m., worker in his 20s named Li jumped to his death again at the Longuo plant March 7th, a female employee named Tian jumped from her dormitory building and injured herself saying she was under the great deal of pressure. This jumping stuff? I don't buy that! That to me is push And I don't know what's going on, but there is something very weird about this Foxconn outfit. Well you know it could be scandalous because they don't just make parts, they're not a parts company They make finished product Yeah the finished devices... I think the iPad and iPhone are made by them That's what this article states

1:40:21 Well, this is like you know everyone got over Kathy Lee Griffith or whatever Gifford for having making shoes in a sweatshop. I mean maybe somebody should get on Apple from using Foxcom for this sort of thing and if they're running a sweatshop So I just thought that was kind of interesting and especially Euro Disney the happiest place on earth four suicides Yeah From the Gitmo nation files we have This was pretty interesting when it comes to technology. This is from the dailyilini.com, which is... let's see where this is from? University of Illinois. The university police department is testing a new automatic license plate scanning technology this week

1:41:18 making the department one of the first in the area to try this system. So what exactly is this system you might ask? Well it consists of a video camera mounted on a squad car which records license plate numbers as the car drives through traffic lanes and parking lots. The recorded plate is stored in the cars computer system and cross-checked in the systems national database of license plates belonging to sex offenders, gang members and criminal offenders If the system matches the recorded license plate to a plate in the database, the computer alerts the officer driving the car giving them an opportunity to pursue the offender if necessary. But it gets better! The system is linked to GPS which records the time the plate was scanned as well its estimated location. The information is downloaded and stored into a server at the police station This is sounding really good isn't? I'm loving it!

1:42:23 Isn't there a law against storing this kind of stuff? There's probably not or they wouldn't even if there was, they'd do it anyway. Sorry In the UK and you know they have license plate recognition cameras all over the motorways apparently they store that information for two years Well that way they can see where you've been and what you've gone I don't think they ever put...I dunno It's just as far as I'm concerned, it ends up as dead information because they never use it right and it's always screwed up. The databases are corrupted there is too much data they don't know what to do with it Well, someone's got a credit. There's these creepy as it talked about just you know the sex offenders I mean they made everybody a sex offender and then they ended up because your naked on your cell phone Yeah And then the next thing you know The real is some real sex offender moves in next door any decides not to play the game so he doesn't file with Any papers or anything and doesn't get a car takes the bus? and there's a tip

1:43:25 Yeah, that's a big... Here is an Andy No Agenda sex offender tip. Take the bus! You might meet interesting people. Get Monation Down Under Australia is creating a new government post A new ministerial post John Can you imagine what it could be? Sex Offender Post No It is the Minister of Population Strategy Oh brother population strategy. Okay, all of our listeners and producers down there and get my nation down under I think we better get our trip going soon John because they're gonna start calling the population like that yeah that means our listeners exactly the first on the list is like wow

1:44:21 Then we have a, just a, oh wait a minute. Ah shoot I should've saved that page it was a good one about airline uh they're putting gonna put microphones and cameras in airplanes so we can check on ya! And yeah And then my favorite, you know we've been talking about uh... By the way before you get off tonight let me just there's another article in this crazy little newspaper that I want to bring up. It is something we talk about every now and again but they have a graph in here and I just remind there was a speech given recently by black ex-uh prosecutor for I think Washington DC or someplace who quit and became a professor because he was fed up with the fact that in his commentary was, if crime rate goes up the number of people in jail goes up. The crime rate goes down the number of people in jail goes up

1:45:12 And so I'm looking at this incarcerated Americans thing and you know it was not as though we had let me just read this over two million people are currently behind bars in the United States they resent represent the highest per capita incarceration rate in the history of the world with about 5% of the world's population America has distribution housing a one-quarter of the world's prisoners. It was by far the world's largest prison system. We're worried about Gitmo We are Gitmo. We're total Gitmo and if you look in the chart is where we had like, right now we're running over 2 million it's about two point four I think it was more closer to three I thought there was always about ten percent of the US population. So yeah probably gone up another half a million and what might have a millions kind of

1:46:00 uh... interesting is because in nineteen twenty we had like nine hundred thousand in jail it maintained about two hundred fifty thousand to a fifty thousand to have it and then it will kind of went up to five hundred thousand in nineteen eighty and then for starting with reagan it's skyrocketed and increased at accelerated under clinton and kept going up under bush Yeah, well this is all because of the commercial jail system. And by the way these jails aren't too bad! They got like nice facilities some of them... Well I suppose if you're out at work? You know? It's better- it'd probably be better to be in jail. Yeah than homeless So the IRS and this is a clip from The National Press Club and they got one of these IRS what was his name Schulman he's the IRS Commissioner Dougie Douglas Dougie Doogie Doogie Schulman

1:46:49 So whenever they say, oh we're gonna go after rich people. That's when people like you and me like not rich People need to look out Totally he's basically never go after rich people know here Here's what he's saying We're gonna go get you slaves and we're gonna come after ya here it comes so we're going to continue to use new and enhanced techniques To bring people into the tax system and make sure they pay the taxes if they've been hiding assets overseas We have a new global high wealth operating unit where we're taking a unified look at the entire web of business and economic entities controlled by high-wealth individuals so we can better assess their compliance. Right, right...We want to bring people into the tax system that has nothing to do with higher wealth individuals they are in the tax system

1:47:45 The high wealth individuals are the ones who are not in the tax system. They're going after the ones that aren't in the tax system, like the little guy. There was some actual big news that I don't think many people understood but I love the acronym NPR Which is really what caught my attention as I was scanning through the channels because you know... So, uh, I'm watching. You gotta go to, uh, I think it's defense dot gov slash NPR which is just funny of course because we have a new national treasure and this is the—I love this acronym—the Nuclear Posture Review

1:48:40 Because we can have a... Posture? Posture. Oh! And this was just announced yesterday, the administration's nuclear posture review outlines the means to achieve greater security from worldwide nuclear dangers This is essentially our position on nuclear weapons and how everyone else will have to adhere to it And it's really kind of funny because it says, well you know we're not going to use any nukes. We're not gonna... unless you piss us off! That is basically what it is and I don't know if this is meant specifically to rattle the saber at Iran? I'm not quite sure exactly what it is but it was a big-ass deal and everybody was out on stage and of course Hillary Clinton the former wife of... She started to look pretty raggedy

1:49:36 She's gotten a look though. I think she is getting worn out, she is not going to keep this job much longer So here are the five key objectives of our nuclear posture review The whole word is double speak it's complete George Orwell Posture 1. Preventing nuclear proliferation and nuclear terrorism 2. Reducing the role of U.S. nuclear weapons in U.S. national security strategy 3. Maintaining strategic deterrence and stability at reduced nuclear force levels 4. Strengthening a regional deterrence and reassuring US allies and partners 5. Sustaining a safe, secure and effective nuclear arsenal

1:50:23 This is so bogus. But you need to take a look at this I'm looking at it, there's this picture of a bunch of geeks There's a bunch of quadrennial defense review and it just looks like another 8 million dollar website that has got nothing interesting on it and its either coded for some other audience or It's just a bunch of bullcrap. It's disturbing because you can't quite figure out what it is about, but I did read through the documents online there is a PDF and this says New Start Strategic whatever it stands for and essentially literally says hey everyone calm down we're not going to use any nukes unless you piss us off that's literally what it says like if someone pisses us off then were gonna go nuke ya! Yeah That our new posture

1:51:20 God, oh we're so lovely Then let me see I have where is it? I'm half asleep today, i can't find anything. There was a new shadow puppet theater here it is President Obama's nominee because you know he nominated all these people during the recess so these are all the people that couldn't get their positions confirmed and so then the press which by the way the press is not covering at all

1:51:57 So he nominated the US Army General Counsel who pledges to investigate anyone leaking military secrets to the media. Now where do you think this guy comes from? Where? The New York Times! What?! Yes! He was the former chief legal officer for The New York Times and even better than that he's receiving a $1 million deferred compensation from The Times while he is working in government as the US Army General Counsel. I mean come on! Does it get any more obvious?

1:52:40 That is absolutely the worst. He is going to investigate people leaking military secrets to the media, which of course is what happens with The New York Times all the time! I mean this... And so then The New York Times is giving him a million dollars to be on it and take this position? A million dollars How much money did they make over there at The New York Times are always whining According to a recent government ethics filing, Mr. Watson who resigned as chief legal officer at the newspaper expects six more payments from New York Times company executive compensation plan ending in 2015 so he'll be getting money throughout the whole time I mean it wouldn't be like hey man we're not gonna pay you if you don't hook us up It's crazy No that is crazy

1:53:35 Okay, well I'm glad you got the depressing news in at the end there. Meanwhile ladies and gentlemen in real news Natalie Del Conte is five-and-a-half months pregnant. Yeah she's a PR person to promote herself as pregnant. I mean...I did...oh I got helicopters going over. I mean I didn't know that! Yeah, it's been all over the news for the last month. Oh gee I must have been looking at something important. You've been watching too much C-SPAN! It's what we do... No, it was like what? I hope it's not that douchebag she told me about. This is supposed to be some guy who works for CBS or something That's the guy! She couldn't decide... oh man Wow. This isn't the guy she was dating when she was down here. No no this isn't that guy but this guy. She told me about him and he was married

1:54:31 I don't know. Yeah, he has kids too! We'll have to look into this...I don't want to start making accusations. No, me neither but i was just like shocked it was like oh wow i didn't know that she's gonna lose her girlish figure she just may And of course my favorite topic being chemtrails, the thing that you don't believe. Well now the government has released a report 128 pages where they actually admit to spraying chemicals in the atmosphere over the United States particular over cities so you can stop scoffing at me every single time I bring it up. I want see the report this is bull! It's not but it's government report my friend yeah sure and in uh... Yeah you know you don't believe it?

1:55:15 And in Europe, in fact, the European Parliament there are now questions being asked. Quote... Why aircraft condensation trails no longer only contain water? I mean this is big, there's this whole geoengineering bunch of yahoos who just met last month and they're trying to change climate. And i think they're trying to control people with the chemtrails but this report is fascinating! I will put it in the show notes daily... not daily source code noagendashow.com and you can read through 128 pages and its all there Yeah ill read it, Ill see what happens, Ill do a report back

1:55:56 And if you and you will yeah, you'll report back and then you'll just say you'll have to be You'll have to Concede. No, I won't because then you're going to have misread it. So we're not going to get into a couple of things this week and want to point this out to people one my breakdown on this new book on education that was in talk about today but never got to it and also I've got some very interesting stuff from the John Dean interview that was done on C-SPAN especially one very disturbing comment he made So you have a thing for the end of the show? We'll play after the final music. No, not this week because it would actually tie into another thing and there's another 15 minutes we'd have to do so I will put it off But now but now I'm really interested Yeah, I know that's good That's what you want Now You're gonna be even more interested in doing that you will want to do the show on Sunday. No, I Wanted to do it now like I'm really into it Alright here's the deal. This is okay. Well, I was already starting to make this painless show music Okay good

1:57:01 So I'm listening to John Dean who has become this fairly prolific writer and of course he was the council to the president during Watergate, and he's the one who turned state's evidence and blew the whistle on what the hell was going on because these guys had gotten completely out of control. Now they've redesigned this...what we now remember as Watergate and they've kind of obfuscated what was actually going on which is essentially crazy thuggery and it was coordinated by among other people Chuck Colson. And Colson has been repainted since he became a Christian, in fact he got a presidential medal from George Bush

1:57:41 uh... and uh... and they've managed to change the you know that this distorted basic story of watergate i have always remember hearing about some of the crazy ideas that colson had he wanted to do and thought they were just a narrow just promoted squacky the gala's wacky but listening to john dean talk about specifically the fire bombing or proposed fire bombing of the brookings institute by the nixon white house It wasn't a crazy idea. It was actually in play and about to happen until Dean called him out on it, said you can't do this! And so Dean talks about that little bit in his first clip

1:58:25 that intrigued me. One was to become a short-term assistant or deputy general counsel and then be boosted up to general counsel of the shipping, worldwide shipping line and the other was a Wall Street job as investment banker that intrigued me very much Both out of politics, something I wanted to do. Something different and I explained that to Haldeman and he said John you can't leave You owe it us to stay. If you leave you'll burn your bridge with us. You need to keep that bridge open. And after its over you're even going to get better offers

1:59:05 didn't mention it might be making license plates somewhere, but he really in essence said you can't leave or you're going to hurt yourself if you do. I suspect years later he wished he'd let me go But it was that two things, the fact I had told the Senator I was not going to spend a long time in government and the fact that I had not liked the mood and change in nature. This is right after I'd flown out in July to turn off the Brookings break-in. Jack Caulfield shows up in my office one day and he says he's been ordered by Colson to break in and firebomb the Brookings Institute, I said, Jack that is insane! And I said don't do anything and I flew to San Clemente got Ehrlichman to turn it off

1:59:58 uh... and and came back comes back in says well john now a lot of people think you're a little old lady around here i can't even tell you what they've asked me to do who was set up the plumbers so i know it's time to leave yeah i thought it was time to leave did you ever If people think that this shit stopped with Watergate, you're crazy. It's only gotten worse! Everything we've discussed on the show is poking through the veil... ...the theater that is being laid out before you and everything you see on television is a part of it

2:00:37 And this shit goes on. It's lethal, these guys are crazy! Power corrupts... it's not even about money it's about power they're just freaking nuts the schizos they're nutcases. DeWark.org slash NA we need your help Now, we're going to finish the show now and I've got a little more John Dean we're gonna play. And I'll tell you what this is essentially is John Dean breaking down some of the problems that we have today. Do you want to play that after we are done? Yeah, after we are done. Okay yeah. Oops sorry wrong one. Look John Dean goes on and he basically accuses...I talked earlier about moaning about the Republican Party and their idiot candidates

2:01:21 he breaks down some of the problems that republicans are going to run into by virtue of the fact that they're essentially creating a system, a structure and I include people like Sean Hannity into that structure and also Palin. Of essentially lying to their constituents with a... Oh you don't say? There's lying going on there? But anyway, he plays it out in a more interesting way he uh... goes and talks about some other things about cheney needs a lot more she had what you think is that it has to do this in the middle Kind of counterintuitive to today's Republicans who I like I said are checklist Republicans the checklist conservative where you have that view have to be exactly the way this list says You should be or you're not a real Conservative. Your a phony, you can't think for yourself in other words and That is I think the problem that the republicans having which is why I think they're gonna lose in 2010 and 2012

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2:03:40 And I'm coming to you from the hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Southern California. I'm Adam Curry. to subscribe. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk again on Sunday morning for early servers of No Agenda. One of the saddest things that i've seen happen of late, politicians have been known to spin information this is not new

2:04:16 What is new? In fact, it was so troubling to me that I had to address it head on. It's an intellectual dishonesty that I think is going to have serious reverberations for conservatives. Uh...it's happening too often. I'm seeing it-I saw at first with this Watergate revisionism uh... I also saw in documents like the torture memos that were written by John Yoo. I've seen it in some of his books, in fact, in writing Broken Government he got so bad at one point that I decided to write an appendix to show people the sorts of activities that are being undertaken uh...by people who know better and staying with John Yoo for a minute this is very intelligent man this is a man who clerked for Lawrence Silverman at the US Court Of Appeals went on to clerk for Clarence Thomas was

2:05:11 Council of the House or Senate Judiciary Committee. It's now a Berkeley professor, very prolific writer and he is distorting information in a very dishonest way and I think that to do that to make a point do it for political purposes is very dangerous and i certainly hope republicans and uh... the the authoritarian consulting a republican at least the authoritarian conservative republican gets off this kit because it's going to backfire on them you wrote in the book on warren harden some of parallels between the teapot dome scandal and watergate what were they well uh... there isn't any

2:05:53 First of all, it's the first time we have a special prosecutor. We get in Teapot Dome too I want to caveat your mention of Teapot Dome and Harding with the fact that Warner Harding has nothing to do with it That's one of the great travesties. He has been tagged with Teapot Dome when it happens after he is totally away from him, the one time that he learns a scandal and deals with aggressively but yet he bears the burden of Teapot Dome. And he dies before he can defend himself?

2:06:30 But Teapot Dome is a pure corruption scandal and the only parallel, really the strongest parallel is the use of special prosecutor. They selected two by Department of Justice, Attorney General has selected 2 in fact I've read memo uh... by the watergate prosecutors drawing on many of the precedents that were uh... established under teapot dome it shows we have a remedy less than having to have an independent counsel law that can be used and can be set up as i think sometimes should. I'm one for example who doesn't understand why when are dealing with torture

2:07:12 that way. I mean, these are very serious crimes or war crimes and they're not going to go away there are foreign governments right now investigating at least seven former Bush officials and if we don't do so they could well be you know certainly aren't gonna travel abroad for one thing but certainly they could theoretically tried in absentia of crimes. So how do you think history will judge George W Bush? Obviously, Nixon's famous line that it depends on the historian who writes the history will make the judgment collectively I think that he is in for trouble. I think that he gave too much power in the first

2:08:02 six years of his eight-year presidency to his vice president. His vice president had an agenda that was To try to overturn anything that Was the result of Watergate these very aggressive actions in the name of fighting terrorism went way over the top, keeping Americans frightened to get the mandate to do so are troubling historical potentials. They have never been accountable for many of the activities they undertook The fact that we went to war in Iraq on a really bogus

2:08:44 reason, those all need to be addressed and will be addressed. And I don't think history is going to be real good to either Bush or Cheney.