Episode 1852 · Thursday, 19 March 2026

Jell-No!

A surprise return from John C. Dvorak anchors a deep dive into Middle East oil wars, California hospice fraud, and the sudden downfall of a labor icon.

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President Donald Trump sparked international debate after joking about Pearl Harbor during a meeting with Japanese journalists regarding the escalating conflict with Iran. Trump defended his decision to withhold military plans from allies, emphasizing that strategic success requires absolute secrecy. Meanwhile, the administration faces internal friction as Joe Kent resigned from the National Counterterrorism Center, citing an inability to support the current war effort, while Tucker Carlson alleges the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for his communications with Iranian contacts.

Geopolitical tensions reached a breaking point as Israel allegedly struck the South Pars gas field, prompting a stern warning from Trump on Truth Social regarding the protection of Qatari LNG facilities. In California, a New York Times investigation into farm labor icon Cesar Chavez has surfaced sexual assault allegations, leading to the rapid removal of his name from public spaces. Simultaneously, YouTuber Nick Shirley exposed a massive hospice fraud scheme in Los Angeles involving the Armenian mob and stolen Medicare data. The episode also details the history of the 1953 CIA coup in Iran and the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible on modern American foreign policy.

John C. Dvorak makes a surprise return to the airwaves to provide an update on his heart surgery recovery and mock the realism of his own AI voice clone. Mimi Smith Dvorak shares a 1968 encounter with Jim Morrison at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel and offers a practical solution for aging pets with her endorsement of the cleaning product My Pet Peed. Adam Curry reflects on his MTV VJ days and the perks of being recognized from the Joe Rogan Experience.


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CHAPTER 01 / 46 Discussion

Washington State Weather, Mimi Smith Dvorak Introduction

Adam Curry introduces Mimi Smith Dvorak as the guest co-host for Episode 1852, broadcasting from the Texas Hill Country. Mimi describes the current weather conditions in Washington State, noting high humidity and an incoming storm system from Hawaii. The discussion touches on the melting snow and potential flooding in the Pacific Northwest.

mimi smith dvorak· washington state· texas hill country· weather· humidity

00:00 Everybody poops. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 19th, 2026. It's your award-winning Kipp on Nation Media Assassination Episode 1852. This is no agenda. One more for the Kipper. And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And I'm Mimi Smith Dvorak. And on a globe, I'm between the 48th and 49th parallel. And it's wet. You're wet. You're soaking wet. We don't even say anything about it. It's just another day. Yeah, yeah. 100% humidity. I didn't even know. You told me before we started that the

00:47 That there was a storm in Hawaii that that is now over your your your low your domain your woods the start of it We do get one day that that globe in the sky may appear on Saturday and then we're we've got rain forever We have rain that's just coming and it's it's so slow and it's gonna be lots of inches and it's also quite warm so that means All the snow that we had was going to melt, so we'll be flooding too. It's great. So what is the actual appeal of living in Washington state?

01:24 It's good for your skin. Oh yeah, but so is pharaoh.life, you know. That stuff is good for your skin too. I don't know if you need to live in Washington State for it. Oh, it's got beautiful trees and yeah, that's it. Okay, there you go everybody. You've got income tax now, you've got libtards running around, but you got nice trees. Yeah, nice trees. So, not once, but twice this week did JCD call me. That was quite exciting. The first one was, I think, Tuesday. He's like, hey, it's Dvorak. Like, okay, you know, we have a caller ID on these phones, John, in case you didn't know. And yeah, I said, well, okay, yeah.

CHAPTER 02 / 46 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Hospital Update, AI Voice Clone Prank

Adam Curry recounts phone calls from John C. Dvorak during his recovery from heart surgery. Dvorak attempted to test his remote recording setup, the "nook," leading to typical technical difficulties involving webcams and speakers. Adam plays an AI-generated voice clone of Dvorak complaining about hospital food and sponge baths to demonstrate the realism of modern voice synthesis.

john c. dvorak· hospital· ai voice· nook· technical difficulties

02:15 Just checking in I said, well you getting out tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, he says it was so sweet He says I'm really sorry What he keeps apologizing say stop apologizing now, but I'm really sorry. You have to do one more show with me me Wow Yeah And then yesterday, I've got salmon in the oven, Tina was out helping a friend so I'm cooking dinner, and salmon, you kind of keep your eye on it. And he said, let's test the gear, let's test the gear. I guess he was setting up the famed nook at Jay's house.

02:57 And it was so classic, as if nothing has changed. So he plugs in, he connects to the clean feed, and I can clearly hear that it's not the microphone he's talking into. It's like something else is on. No, it's not! I'm talking right into it! Nothing has changed! It's the same! John, I'm telling you, this is... And I can hear myself booming through the speakers, like, what, you got speakers? Yeah, Jay bought me some speakers. Could you consider headphones for once, just maybe? And he's like, I'll call you back. And it turns out there was a webcam still plugged in. I'm like, told you so. Oh yeah, told me so. Oh yeah. I actually recorded some of it. I recorded some. Oh no. Yeah, let me play a little bit here. Here we go. So this is what happens when your wife and your work wife get together.

03:47 Now that was from the hospital day that he called me, including this one. I have to go, it's time for my sponge bath. So that ended the conversation. And then, parents, cover your kids ears. I can't stand one more fucking jello cup. Pretty good, huh? Oh yeah. That's AI. We don't need John anymore. Could you tell? Could you tell it was not John? I wasn't listening hard enough. I'm a wife. I've been a wife for so long my ears turn off. Wow, I thought that only happened to husbands. That's good. That's very good. So one question, well there's a couple things, but one question that people really would like to know and you may not want to answer this.

CHAPTER 03 / 46 Discussion

Mimi Smith Dvorak Real Name, Political Background

Mimi Smith Dvorak reveals her legal name is Merrilee Diane, a name she disliked and replaced with the nickname Mimi as a child. She explains using her legal name during a run for City Council to avoid sounding like other members with nicknames. Adam mentions that while most listeners appreciate her filling in, some critics on Twitter have been dismissive of the temporary format change.

merrily diane· mimi smith dvorak· city council· sequim· port angeles

04:35 Where does is Mimi your real name? No, no, it's not. Mm-hmm my parents Saddled me with the first name is Merrilee Diane. I like Merrilee. That's a cute name. No, it's Merrilee Diane. I Well, I have a middle name as well. It's hyphenated. I have a middle name and then Because when I was a little kid, I could not say it because you know what kid can spit out merrily Diane I started calling myself Mimi and everyone could start calling me Mimi from then on huh? I So you don't like Merrilee, it has to be Merrilee Diane, but you don't like them at all obviously. My name is Merrilee Diane like my mother was naming for some southern belle and she got me. We all saw the pictures. Merrilee Diane. My mom had blonde curly hair and she was just dark brown eyes and I am nothing like my mother. Welcome to the stage Merrilee Diane.

05:34 Put your hands together for Mary Lee Diane. So for political stuff up here, I decided to use Merrill Lee when I first ran because we already had a city council member whose name was Sherry and we had one named Sissy and I thought that it sounded like a bunch of strippers. So people have been listening to us for the past, what have we done now? Four shows? Is this the fifth show? Is this the fifth? I think it's the fifth. No, I think it's just four because we missed that first one. Well, we kind of did an intro on the first one. And I've loved doing this with you Mimi. I really appreciate you jumping in. I'd say 98% of Noah Jenna Nation loves that you jumped in. The 2% are always the a-holes. So I just fight them on Twitter.

06:27 Those are the ones I like the best. They're the worst. Like, I couldn't listen. There was no deconstruction at all. I usually listen two to three times an episode and I had to turn it off. Like, okay, fine. You know, a little bit of grace, maybe just a tad. But the best came from Hollywood Bigwig. He texted this to me during the Academy Awards. So that means he know he wasn't watching Dana Brunetti, he says I I am pretty sure that Mimi is indeed a spook and and he takes it one step further He says I don't think anyone's put it together that she is the anonymous donor that you are seronimous of dog patch and Laura's Lobovia and that's and that's how she communicates with John when she's on assignment and

CHAPTER 04 / 46 Discussion

Donald Trump, Japanese Journalists, Pearl Harbor Joke

President Donald Trump met with Japanese journalists to discuss the ongoing conflict with Iran. When asked why the United States did not notify allies like Japan before initiating military action, Trump joked about the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. He emphasized that military strategy requires secrecy and surprise to be effective.

donald trump· japan· pearl harbor· iran war· surprise attack

07:22 She doesn't live in Washington. She's just off on assignment. Notice there have been no donations from him since he's been on the show. Hmm. Okay, whatever. Sure. I'll take it. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Our president has been super hilarious the past few days. This just, I saw this this morning. He was sitting with the prime minister of Japan. Do you know her name? I forget what her name is. Not at all. And so there's a whole bunch of Japanese journalists and, you know, it's just Japanese on the whole one side of the room. Let me see if I can get this here. Oh, he doesn't believe me. Here he goes. Of course, no, Japan and US are very good friends.

08:18 One question, why didn't you tell US allies in Europe and Asia like Japan about the war before? So he says, why didn't you tell US allies like NATO and Europe and Japan before you went to war with Iran? So we are very confused about we Japanese citizens. Well, one thing you don't want to signal too much, you know, when we go in, we went in very hard and we didn't tell anybody about it because we wanted Surprise? Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor? Dude! Dude! Dude! Dude! Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor, huh? Wow. Oh, wow. That's great. It's good. It's good. And no sooner had we talked about it on the Sunday

09:10 than the president did exactly what we thought he would do. I'm going to remind everybody what he did during the State of the Union to screw with the Democrats. One of the great things about the State of the Union is how it gives Americans the chance to see clearly what their representatives really believe. So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle If you agree with this statement then stand up and show your support The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens not illegal aliens It was great how the shot pulled out right away. Yep

CHAPTER 05 / 46 Discussion

NATO Relations, Donald Trump, Ukraine Funding Criticism

President Donald Trump criticized NATO allies for failing to support the United States in the Iran conflict despite receiving trillions in American protection over the years. Trump asserted his authority to withdraw from NATO without Congressional approval, though he stated he has no current plans to do so. He further criticized the Biden administration for providing hundreds of billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.

nato· donald trump· ukraine· joe biden· military spending

09:57 Isn't that a shame? You should be ashamed of yourself not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. He did exactly the same with NATO, said, hey, you guys gonna come and stand up and stand next to us? And so he was with, gosh, I think it was the Prime Minister of Austria or, oh no, Ireland, he was with the Taoiseach of Ireland. And he's sitting there in the Oval Office. And this, this didn't get as much coverage as I hoped it would have on the mainstream, some choice bits, but he really laid it down. I think NATO's making a very foolish mistake and I've long said that, you know, I wonder whether or not NATO would ever be there for us. So this is a, this was a great test because we don't need them but they should have been there. The other thing is, and I think, you know, very important,

10:56 We didn't have to be there for Ukraine. You know, Biden chose to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Ukraine. And I guess The head of Germany just made a statement that well, they weren't involved and they have nothing to do with the war but at the same time they think we did a great thing by knocking them out. Nobody wants to have Nobody wants to have Iran or anybody but nobody wants to have Iran with a nuclear because these people are crazy. They're absolutely crazy and they're vicious violent I mean, they killed, think of it, they killed, now I hear it's about 41,000 people. They put out a notice two days ago. Anybody that protests will be immediately shot and killed. That's pretty tough stuff. So everyone agrees with us, but they don't want to help. And we, you know, we as the United States have to remember that because we think it's pretty shocking. Yeah, we're going to remember that. It was a test. He says it himself. It was a test.

11:56 Test to see if they would stand up and naturally the question that he wanted was planted and came. Are you rethinking the United States relationship with NATO possibly getting out? Well I'm disappointed in NATO that we spend trillions of dollars on NATO. Think of it trillions over the years. Many trillions of dollars. It's one of the reasons we have deficits and we help other countries. And when they don't help us, I mean, it's certainly something that we should think about. I don't need Congress for that decision. As you probably know, I can make that decision myself. I'd work with some very smart people and I'd always deal with Congress anyway, but I don't need Congress for that decision. But, you know, when you

12:40 When you say rethink, I'm not, I have nothing currently in mind, but I will say that I'm not exactly thrilled when we help them with Ukraine. Look, Ukraine would have been over in one day if we didn't help. Frankly, Ukraine would have been over in the first day. They had the best equipment in the world. It was our equipment. given by sleepy Joe Biden. No charge, no charge. Hundreds of billions of dollars of the best equipment in the world, no charge. I will say that I'm not happy about it. So there's your shot across the bow. I love the trolls. See Brooklyn 112.

CHAPTER 06 / 46 Discussion

Middle East Allies, Oil Protection, US Navy

The United States received strong support for its Middle Eastern operations from Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain. Adam Curry argues that the US Navy's protection of global shipping lanes is essential for maintaining domestic gas supplies and the technology industry. Israel is highlighted as a primary partner in the regional military effort.

qatar· uae· saudi arabia· bahrain· israel

13:17 Yeah. Well, you know what's funny? High gas prices are funny. America first! You know what's funny? No gas. I lived through that. Mimi lived through that too. No gas. Yeah. Because we didn't have the region under control. Anti-war. If you're anti-war, you have a very weak stance. You have nothing left. Get rid of your iPhone. The US Navy protects that. And so who did stand with America is exactly the people who make sure that you have gas at all. Which countries are joining and which countries have... Well, we've had great support from the Middle East.

13:57 Qatar has been great. UAE has been absolutely great. Saudi Arabia has been terrific. Bahrain has been very good. The Middle Eastern countries have been very strong in their support. And of course, Israel has been our partner. Israel's been very, very strong. Yes. So that kind of Yeah, meanwhile there's been a lot of like good old Joe Kent. Oh wait, wait, wait, you're going too fast. Let's get to Joe. I'm going too fast? Okay, let's go. Good. We'll get to Joe Kent in a moment and then we can have a good laugh about Israel.

CHAPTER 07 / 46 Discussion

Iran Nuclear Deal, Obama Administration Cash Shipments

President Donald Trump revisited the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, claiming the Obama administration sent Boeing 757s loaded with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to Tehran. Trump characterized these payments as ransom and claimed the cash was stripped from banks in Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. He contrasted this with his own "decimation" of the Iranian regime's resources.

barack obama· iran nuclear deal· boeing 757· cash· ransom

14:35 So the president then reminds everybody where we were with Iran during the Obama administration. And he even asked us if we'd forgotten about it. If we didn't do the attack, or if I'll go a step further, if I didn't terminate the Iran nuclear deal given to us, one of the worst deals ever made, by Barack Hussein Obama. Remember when they said Boeing 757s over there? Loaded with cash. Hundreds of millions of dollars. He would have been very happy. This was a wonderful. They said hundreds of million people forget that. Does anybody remember? Right. You remember.

15:12 Hundreds of millions of dollars in a Boeing 757. I think that two of them loaded, they took the seats out and they put cash. And it was so much that there wasn't a bank in Virginia, Maryland or DC that had any money left. They stripped him of all their money, put it into place, sent it to Iran almost as ransom. Yeah, almost. That's not going to happen with Trump. And nobody ever did anything about it. Nobody ever said anything. Can you imagine if I did that? I didn't know that the banks in Virginia and Maryland and D.C. were empty of cash. That's an interesting detail. I've never heard before. I haven't heard that at all. But, you know, we could have all wished for a plane crash that day.

16:00 Money from heaven. Mana, mana from heaven. So we're winding it up here. Mr. Trump, Mr. President, do you have a day after plan? Well, we have a lot. Look, if we left right now, it would take 10 years for them to rebuild. But we're not ready to leave yet, but we will be leaving in the near future. We'll be leaving in pretty much the very near future, but right now they've been decimated from every standpoint. And again, we've had great support from countries in the Middle East, great support, but we've had no support from, essentially, no support from NATO. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

CHAPTER 08 / 46 Discussion

Global News Toronto, Trump Foreign Policy Critique

A report from Global News Toronto features correspondent Eric Sorensen criticizing Donald Trump's "strategically incoherent" approach to the Iran war. The segment highlights resistance from French President Emmanuel Macron regarding the Strait of Hormuz and notes that international allies have little appetite to assist the U.S. Experts warn that Iran's geography allows it to protract the conflict using unsophisticated weapons.

eric sorensen· global news· emmanuel macron· strait of hormuz· iran

16:52 Then we actually had a thing about NATO and I'll get you to to Joe Kent Where is it? Here we go. Yeah I thought I had this here. Where's my goodness gracious, where's my Here it is. This is from actually this is a Canada global news and they bring in all the Europeans on this because Clearly, the president has no clue, no plan, no idea what he's doing. The US president sounded so sure about Iran's liberation. I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. That the war would be over quickly. I think you'll see it's going to be a short-term excursion. But Donald Trump has discovered that Iranian freedom is not at hand. They don't have guns and the other ones have guns.

17:46 highly sophisticated machine guns. It's the small observations that are revealing that the Iranian regime can still threaten the global economy. Literally a single terrorist can put something in the water or shoot something or shoot a missile. Trump said he didn't need NATO's help, then asked for it, didn't get it, then declared he didn't need it and never did. Incoherent. I would describe Trump's approach to all of this as strategically incoherent. This expert on US foreign policy says Trump's objectives have swung from regime change to nuclear disarmament. He's not even sure who to talk to. I don't know if they're ready yet. And we don't even know their leaders. All of this suggests to me that nobody's on the same page and nobody really knows what

18:27 what the point of the war is or how it's going to end. NATO allies recently intimidated by Trump's threats and tariffs are forcefully resisting him now. France would never take part, says President Emmanuel Macron, in an operation to unlock the Strait of Hormuz. For many, it all comes back to the same question. What is Trump's endgame. We haven't been consulted and we don't really understand what are the objectives of this war. It's no surprise say experts that neither the Allies nor shipping companies want to risk Iranian attacks in the narrow strait.

19:02 They can exploit the geography of the Strait of Hormuz and use relatively unsophisticated weapons that are easy to hide and attack shipping almost whenever they want. So Iran really has the ability to protract this conflict pretty significantly. So Trump finds himself in a war in which Iran will not surrender and America's usual partners will not take part. This is what happens when the United States mistreats its allies. And what we're seeing over the last couple of days is that there's no international appetite to help Donald Trump out of this mess. Trump's plan to win or end the war still sounds vague. We'll be leaving in the near future. We'll be leaving.

CHAPTER 09 / 46 Discussion

Anglo-Persian Oil History, CIA 1953 Coup

The discussion traces the history of Iranian conflict back to 1906 and Winston Churchill's transition of the British Navy to oil. The hosts detail the 1953 CIA and MI6 coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh after he attempted to nationalize Iranian oil. They argue that the current conflict is a continuation of a century-long struggle over oil prices and maritime control rather than religious or ideological differences.

anglo-persian oil company· bp· cia· mi6· mohammad mosaddegh

19:37 in pretty much a very near future. Eric Sorensen, Global News, Toronto. I love this. It's been obvious for over 100 years what is going on. And Trump is the first president to actually do something about it. And people who keep saying, oh, we're doing this for Israel. It's a very illogical, unintelligent take. To what end? To what end? The whole point is the oil. The oil has been the point since 1906, I think, whenever Churchill changed the British Navy from coal to oil and they went in and created the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, later BP. And everything was hunky-dory and everybody was happy until 1953. Then we

20:31 CIA and MI6 went in because they had a republic, they had democratically elected government. And like, oh, we can't have this. We need strife and people to be crazy. And why don't you just take our opium like you did when they deal in the first place? And the prime minister, what was his name? Mahouzadeh or something, I forget his name. Yeah, well, and he was the one who pushed so that Iran would get- They want to nationalize the oil. A cut. No, he was going to nationalize it. Right. And they did, they ended up getting more money, which they were getting nothing for the soil getting taken from the ground. Right, so then we brought in the Shah. Our boy. We brought him in and he kicked Khomeini out and then the Islamic revolution started to happen.

21:20 which came in 78, 79. Again, our fingerprints were all over it. It was a student uprising who, I remember this, I was old enough to remember, they got our embassy, had 50 people for over 400 days, and the CIA was, they'd shredded all their documents. And the students got all the shredded material, took it to school, to the school children, said, hey, you like puzzles? Put this together. And so they had the proof that we had done all of that. That's where all this came from. The students thought that they were going to get freedom and they were going to get their own country and they're going to get elections again. I mean, they were completely misled.

22:03 Oh, well, of course. Of course they were. Yes. So, yes, they were misled. And then the nut jobs came in and they behooved the people who set the oil prices. The spot market, I believe, is set in London, not in New York or Chicago. It's set in London. You know, $5 to $15 of premium per oil for the danger. That's pure profit right in their pockets. And it's been that way forever. And to me, it's so clear. If you think this is about getting rid of Israel's enemy, no, the Abraham Accords have already got everybody looking in the same direction. Saudi Arabia is ready to be the tech Mecca, the AI Mecca. They're investing trillions of dollars. So Israel, no, you're stupid.

CHAPTER 10 / 46 Discussion

Joe Kent Resignation, National Counterterrorism Center, FBI Investigation

Joe Kent resigned as Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, citing his inability to support the conflict with Iran. President Trump dismissed Kent as "weak on security" following his departure. Reports from Semaphore indicate that Kent is currently under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information prior to his resignation.

joe kent· nctc· fbi· semaphore· classified leaks

22:51 No, really, even I think I have a clip here. Trump he was asked about the objectives of the US and Israel are you speaking with Prime Minister Netanyahu and are your objectives the same in terms of ending the war? They might be a little different I guess you know they're a different country than we are a different country Whatever they're doing and Hanks that said effectively the same thing. I would just state by saying Israel's been a really strong partner in this effort Where they have different objectives, they've pursued them. Ultimately, we've stayed focused on ours. Yeah, there you go. We'll get to more of that later after I lead you into Joe Kent. Your director of national counterterrorism, Joe Kent, he just resigned today. He said he can't support your conflict with Iran. What's your reaction to that? And did you- Well, I read his statement. I always thought he was a nice guy, but I always thought he was weak on security, very weak on security.

23:51 I didn't know him well, but I thought he seemed like a pretty nice guy. But when I read his statement, I realized that it's a good thing that he's out because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat. Every country realized what a threat Iran was. The question is whether or not they wanted to do something about it. And Kent really had The same old boring take that, oh, well, if you do that, then, you know, we'll be distracted and China will take Taiwan. It hasn't happened. Right. And it may. And I don't know if we care anymore. It's always so important. Evidently, he has been

24:35 He's been a leaker. So if I'd love the breaking news is 318 breaking news. We got breaking news just a moment ago. Sources are saying that Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National Counterterror Center, this is from Semaphore. He just resigned. He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information. And the investigation predate his departure. Yeah, I saw this. I'm not sure what to make of this. Well, we also have a PBS Liz Landers on Joe Kent. Okay, who's Liz Lander? She works for PBS? Yep.

25:17 Yep. With his background as a Green Beret and a former CIA official, he has with this military and intelligence background, but he really represents sort of the MAGA portion of this administration who is anti-war. And that is what we saw today in these comments from him. He has a close relationship with Tucker Carlson, who we've mentioned previously has been critical of this war in Iran since it started. He's also a close ally of Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence. You led me right into it. Perfect. Which, yep, which of course, four days ago, Tucker said. No, here we go. So the other day I found out that the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to Department of Justice on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran before the war. They read my texts.

CHAPTER 11 / 46 Discussion

Tucker Carlson, CIA Criminal Referral, Foreign Agent Act

Tucker Carlson claimed the CIA is preparing a criminal referral against him for allegedly acting as a foreign agent due to his communications with people in Iran. Carlson denied the allegations, asserting his loyalty to the United States. The hosts speculate on a connection between Carlson's situation and the investigation into Joe Kent.

tucker carlson· cia· doj· fara· tulsi gabbard

24:35 He's been a leaker. So if I'd love the breaking news is 318 breaking news. We got breaking news just a moment ago. Sources are saying that Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National Counterterror Center, this is from Semaphore. He just resigned. He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information. And the investigation predate his departure. Yeah, I saw this. I'm not sure what to make of this. Well, we also have a PBS Liz Landers on Joe Kent. Okay, who's Liz Lander? She works for PBS? Yep.

25:17 Yep. With his background as a Green Beret and a former CIA official, he has with this military and intelligence background, but he really represents sort of the MAGA portion of this administration who is anti-war. And that is what we saw today in these comments from him. He has a close relationship with Tucker Carlson, who we've mentioned previously has been critical of this war in Iran since it started. He's also a close ally of Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence. You led me right into it. Perfect. Which, yep, which of course, four days ago, Tucker said. No, here we go. So the other day I found out that the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to Department of Justice on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran before the war. They read my texts.

26:11 So the crime under consideration apparently would be the Foreign Agent Act or something like that, acting as an agent of a foreign power. And I don't expect this to go anywhere. I'm not too worried about an actual criminal case against me for a bunch of reasons. One, I'm not an agent of a foreign power. Unlike a lot of people commenting on US politics and global affairs, I have only one loyalty and that's the United States. I'm a podcaster. I thought that there's no way that's a coincidence. I think that Tucker was talking to Kent. Yeah, I thought that too, with the difference being the FBI is open an investigation against Kent and Tucker's talking about the CIA. And I mean, it could just be an elaborate joke. Or Tucker is just this is just an elaborate publicity stunt by Tucker.

CHAPTER 12 / 46 Discussion

Pastor Dumisani Washington, Israel Church Division

Pastor Dumisani Washington, founder of the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel, criticized Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for creating a rift within the Christian church regarding support for Israel. Washington argued that Carlson's platforming of figures like Nick Fuentes is dangerous. The discussion centers on how the Israel-Palestine conflict is dividing different Christian denominations.

dumisani washington· ibsi· tucker carlson· israel· charlie kirk

27:06 I wouldn't put it past them to be fair about it. So Can I go off on my rant? So go for it so I was like looking around and a funny thing that I found was Tucker is He likes to be talked about clearly and I found a lot of people talking about him But what I found the most interesting was a pastor Demonsi. I think that's how you pronounce it from Demonsi, Washington I have two parts to it. So the first one is called dangerous, the other one is final. Within the West, the church itself is being more and more divided on one single issue, Israel and the Jewish people.

27:46 There's lots of doctrinal things and the church has been fighting for 2,000 years with itself about many, many things. That's why there's thousands of denominations. But what we're seeing now more than ever before is that Christians of different ethnicities, different groups, different denominations, Catholic, Protestant, the dividing line seems to be Israel and the Jews. Israel and the Jews. Either you believe God's Word when it comes to Israel and the Jewish people, or you believe the Tucker Carlson's and the Candace Owens and that's really causing the kind of riff right now. Right up my alley I'll let you finish and then I'll give you my opinion. Okay so then there's a final with this pastor by the way is

28:25 the founder of the Institute for Black Solidarity with Israel, and he's in Charlotte, North Carolina. So let's do the final with him. It's dangerous because of who he is. The platform that he has, he's still with TPUSA. He's still good friends with the vice president of the United States, right? This is not just some guy on a street corner yelling with a bullhorn. This guy has access to the highest levels of government in our nation, right? And he's He platforms Nick Fuentes, but he's not getting really any pushback from the people that should be giving him pushback. This is a very dangerous moment for our nation.

CHAPTER 13 / 46 Discussion

Scofield Reference Bible, Dispensationalism, Christian Zionism

Adam Curry explores the "Scofield Bible" conspiracy theory, which suggests that 20th-century editorial changes influenced American Christians to support the state of Israel. The discussion contrasts "Replacement Theology" with "Dispensationalism," the belief that the 1948 establishment of Israel fulfilled biblical prophecy. Figures like Mike Johnson and Paula White are cited as proponents of this eschatological view.

scofield bible· dispensationalism· replacement theology· constantine· eschatology

29:02 Okay, so I happen to have a conversation with pastor Jimmy about this yesterday on we on the we get to do this podcast I've been tracking this because it is probably the oldest trick in the book and the Brits love doing it And when I say the Brits, you know, mi6 City of London, you know Wall Street affiliated they love to use religion to divide people and What has cropped up and the catalyst was Charlie Kirk. That was the catalyst and that's when we brought in Israel-Jews problem.

29:39 even though it really started October 7th, but you know, then we got... That's when we got Candace Owens, we got Tucker, we got Megyn Kelly, we got Ben Shapiro, we have Mark Levine, we've got Nick Fuentes. And the conspiracy theory, which is up my alley, you know, I've looked at many conspiracy theories on the show throughout the years, still don't think we landed on the moon. But the conspiracy theory is that about 110 years or about 100 years ago, the Schofield Bible was published and the Schofield Bible

30:24 changed the way American Christians looked at Israel, which had been since the days of Constantine. So what are we 300 BC 300? The year 300 Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome and effectively the world and what Constantine said was Israel is no more, the church is the new Israel. And for 1800 years or whatever, you know, this was what it was. The church is the new Israel. And that's called replacement theory.

31:11 What's the Schofield? And it's really great the way the conspiracy theory goes is, well, you know, this guy, he edited the Bible, it's called the Schofield Bible. Well, he didn't edit the Bible. It was a study Bible, and the study Bible proclaimed dispensationalism, which is very, I find it somewhat convoluted, but there's these, you know, divides world history up into seven stages, and we're now in the church stage. But there's a third, and so those are the two camps. The camps are... I think a lot of Catholics are in the fulfillment, they would call it, theology. Like, the church is new Israel, you don't need Israel, it's fine.

31:52 The dispensationalists are very much the, and I think they're ignorant, the Ted Cruz's of the world, probably Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, the President's pastor Paula White. They're like 1948, that was the fulfillment of scripture and these people are all hung up on eschatology, the end times, we're almost there, it's coming, Jesus is coming back. And if you read the Bible, there's... Which, by the way, that definitely reminds me of some of the more... ridiculously extreme of the Muslim religions that believe that the only way that Muhammad will come back is if we have an apocalypse. Oh yeah, Armageddon, exactly. Armageddon. So, but the way I look at it, and I'm a new Christian, so I have the benefit of listening to a lot of different people, and my pastor, I've been talking about this with him for months,

CHAPTER 14 / 46 Discussion

Covenant Theology, Tucker Carlson Christian Misunderstandings

Adam Curry describes "Covenant Theology" as a middle ground where Gentiles are grafted into the Jewish people without requiring specific political borders. He argues that Tucker Carlson misunderstood the migration of Christians from Palestine as "ethnic cleansing." The segment suggests Carlson lacks the religious background to accurately interpret these theological and geopolitical shifts.

covenant theology· tucker carlson· palestine· ethnic cleansing· gentiles

32:52 There's a third way, which is called covenant theology. And in the Bible it says black and white. God says this land is for the chosen people. Now he doesn't say Benjamin Netanyahu. He doesn't say the borders as drawn in 1948. And we as Gentiles are grafted into the Jewish people. So that you can believe that Israel belongs to the Jews without having to define it that way and without having to be crazy about it. You don't have to be nuts because you can just read the words that God said. So evidently Tucker mistook something that someone said in Israel.

33:42 So, when Palestine was having all the issues, all the Christians moved. They left, they went to other parts of the world, they went to Israel. And Tucker thought that it meant that there was ethnic cleansing of Christians. He completely misunderstood, but that's because he is not I don't think he has any religious background at all. So I would love to go into this thing. I've got Tucker Carlson's spirituality and this is a movie called Christianities by Holy Wisdom Films by John Hears and they have a sneak peek that features Tucker Carlson. So let's do part one. Do you think the presence of evil is kick-starting people to wonder about the good? That's what happened to me. That's what happened to you?

34:27 Oh yeah, I had a direct experience with it. In the milieu of journalism or just... Nope, in my bed at night and I got attacked while I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. Physically mauled. In a spiritual attack by a demon? Hold on, what was with the nat pop of the dog? It's in the... I couldn't get it out, I tried. No, that's perfect, that's perfect. I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. physically mauled. In a spiritual attack by a demon? Yeah, by a demon or by something unseen that left... Is it right? Claw marks on my sides, on my... So it left physical marks. Oh, they're still there. Yeah, yeah. A year and a half ago. Was your wife terrified? I know you were. I wasn't. I was totally confused. I woke up and I couldn't breathe and I thought I was gonna suffocate and I walked around outside and then I walked in and my wife and dogs had not woken up and they're very light sleepers.

CHAPTER 15 / 46 Discussion

Tucker Carlson Demon Attack, Spiritual Warfare

In a documentary clip, Tucker Carlson describes being physically mauled by an unseen spiritual entity while sleeping in his bed. He claims the attack left physical claw marks on his ribcage and shoulder that were still visible a year later. Carlson states this experience led him to read the Bible intensely, though he remains skeptical of established Christian pastors.

tucker carlson· demon· spiritual attack· bible· episcopal

33:42 So, when Palestine was having all the issues, all the Christians moved. They left, they went to other parts of the world, they went to Israel. And Tucker thought that it meant that there was ethnic cleansing of Christians. He completely misunderstood, but that's because he is not I don't think he has any religious background at all. So I would love to go into this thing. I've got Tucker Carlson's spirituality and this is a movie called Christianities by Holy Wisdom Films by John Hears and they have a sneak peek that features Tucker Carlson. So let's do part one. Do you think the presence of evil is kick-starting people to wonder about the good? That's what happened to me. That's what happened to you?

34:27 Oh yeah, I had a direct experience with it. In the milieu of journalism or just... Nope, in my bed at night and I got attacked while I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. Physically mauled. In a spiritual attack by a demon? Hold on, what was with the nat pop of the dog? It's in the... I couldn't get it out, I tried. No, that's perfect, that's perfect. I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. physically mauled. In a spiritual attack by a demon? Yeah, by a demon or by something unseen that left... Is it right? Claw marks on my sides, on my... So it left physical marks. Oh, they're still there. Yeah, yeah. A year and a half ago. Was your wife terrified? I know you were. I wasn't. I was totally confused. I woke up and I couldn't breathe and I thought I was gonna suffocate and I walked around outside and then I walked in and my wife and dogs had not woken up and they're very light sleepers.

35:23 And then I had these terrible pains on my ribcage and on my shoulder. And I was just in my boxer shorts and I went and flipped on the light in the bathroom and I had four claw marks on either side underneath my arms and on my left shoulder. And they're bleeding. Wait, they were bleeding. They're bleeding. Yeah, no actual call marks and I sleep on my side. It wasn't calling myself I don't have long nails And they didn't fit my hands anyway, but yeah that happened. So I know I'm not from a world where things like that happen I never heard of anything like that happening before I had no idea what that was. I knew it was spiritual immediately. Hmm Okay, I've heard I think he told I think he mentioned a version of this on Joe Rogan I think maybe but let's go to part two and then three they're both short not from a what do they call it faith tradition that Talks about things like that or even acknowledges their existence like there's nothing like that I've never heard anybody say anything like that in my whole life. What was the next day like I?

36:22 Well, the next morning I woke up and I thought, that was the weirdest dream I've ever had. And then I saw blood on my sheets and I realized that was not a dream at all. I was like, oh, my assistant was like the only evangelical Christian I know, you know, well enough to call something bizarre like that, totally bizarre like that. And she said, oh yeah, no, no, that happens. Yeah, people are attacked in their bed by demons. What? Wow. Yes. Which is nonsense because he's Episcopal and they do talk about it. So let's go to three. And I'm not pretending to understand that I can only say what happened to me and that did happen to me and then I was seized with this very intense desire to read the Bible which I then started without any study aids or anything. I bought a Bible that didn't have any. I'm not interested in editorializing in the Bible. I just want to read it and see what's in there myself.

37:14 I have very low levels of trust for Christian pastors, most of whom, you know, I'm just not a fan at all. So right there, when he's... there's no reason for him to say, I don't need to study Bible. I think he was set up or he's being set up or he did this purposely to bring in the Schofield Bible conspiracy. Maybe, or maybe, since it's common across religions that there are fallen angels and symbolic monsters, entities associated with destruction.

37:50 ethical lapses and spiritual struggle for human souls, I wonder why did he go back to bed? Maybe he popped a Zen and was doing just fine. I don't know. But not seeking out religion. I mean, I'm sorry if I, during the night, if I suddenly woke up after being visited by a beast, I would certainly seek out guidance. I wouldn't just reject it all and everything that he said since this about the Bible, he is completely wrong. He attributes stuff to Moses that Moses didn't do. It's amazing how much he's twisting the words. Oh, well if you listen to the podcast with Pastor Jimmy, I mean he's saying crazy stuff and I just need to reiterate

CHAPTER 16 / 46 Discussion

Balfour Declaration, British Imperialism, Joe Kent Interview

The hosts discuss the British Empire's role in creating modern Middle Eastern borders through the Balfour Declaration and the Sykes-Picot Agreement. They argue that the establishment of Israel was a strategic move to protect British waterways and oil interests. Joe Kent appeared on Tucker Carlson's show to claim that the Israeli lobby pressured the U.S. into the current war with Iran.

balfour declaration· sykes-picot· british empire· joe kent· tucker carlson

38:37 that, yes 1948 came from the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and it was Britain, Britain created Israel. They created all the, hey they had the Pico-Sykes Agreement, Britain and France, they just drew lines on a napkin. And we'll call that Iraq, Iran, we'll call that Syria, Jordan, and then later, oh we're gonna put Israel here, it's gonna be fantastic. And people say, oh that was created by Zionists! Yeah, it was created by the British And the whole idea was to have the Jews there to be on both sides of the, you know, on the Sinai to keep Egypt in check and what was Britain doing? They were funding the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. This has always been about protecting the waterways and the oil. And unfortunately, I find it unfortunate, we do have a lot of politicians

39:26 Christians who are, they're so deeply entrenched into the fulfilling of biblical prophecy of Israel that yeah, they definitely feel that, oh we have to protect Israel at all costs. I don't think Trump is one of them. He's pragmatic, he'd even say, you know, the prayer breakfast is, I don't think I'm going to heaven. I don't think I belong there because he is about profit. He is about making America wealthy and prosperous again. And so yes, there are definitely, definitely politicians who are all in on the dispensationalism, all in on Israel being the fulfillment of prophecy. But I don't think that's why Trump is doing this. And I also don't think that Israel has blackmailed him. I mean, so Tucker is good friends with Joe Kent.

40:23 We get Tucker being investigated by the CIA, Kent investigated by the FBI, Kent resigns. He says two things. He says Iran posed no threat and he said, well, you know, Israel is the one that dragged us into it. And he shows up on Tucker's show yesterday. Because the attacks on him have prevented an honest conversation about what he's actually saying. And what he's saying is, and he says it clearly, and we're going to ask him about it directly in just a moment. Israel got us into this war. Its lobby in the United States pressured the president and its prime minister in Israel told the president, we're going without you. Join us because if you don't, your troops in the region, your interests in the region, your citizens in the region will all be at risk. You have no choice. They led the way. That's Joe Kent's position.

CHAPTER 17 / 46 Discussion

Marco Rubio, UN Section 51, Israel Preemptive Strike

Secretary of State Marco Rubio explained that the U.S. launched preemptive strikes against Iran to protect American forces from expected retaliation following an Israeli action. The U.S. filed paperwork with the United Nations under Section 51 to justify these actions as self-defense. Critics like Joe Kent argue this proves Israel is driving American foreign policy in the region.

marco rubio· united nations· section 51· iran· israel

41:11 And rather than push back against that and say, no, actually he's wrong, they're telling you to shut up. And why are they doing that? Well, there's only one reason people ever become hysterical and slanderous, start screaming at you rather than answering you, is because they're lying. Oh yes, of course. Of course, because they're lying. So he gets Kent on, and I'm glad that we talked about Rubio and his statement, which was so overtly clear what he was trying to communicate and after I talked to former JAG, military lawyer, Rob the constitutional lawyer, he agreed, so it's not just me, he agreed that this was a brilliant move because they filed with the United Nations under section 51, they filed that they were protecting the interests of the United States

42:03 After Israel attacked Iran because they did not want Congress blocking anything that they're doing you notice You don't hear about the war powers resolution anymore because it doesn't apply because the lawyers know that the paperwork is filed and Rubio had to in essence, was providing cover. And exactly as I thought, as exactly as people were spiking the ball in the end zone, Tucker and Kent used this Rubio speech as clear proof that Israel dragged us into this. And I see you weak trolls saying the same thing in the troll room. It's important to stop and say, here's what we actually know. So I'd like now, if we could, just to play one of the statements that you alluded to, and that's from Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. And this was shortly after this war commenced.

42:50 And he was explaining, as is his habit, in a thoughtful, precise way, why. Here's Secretary of State Marco Rubio. And so the president made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed. And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn't. Okay, so that is his almost contemporaneous explanation, and it's not offhand. He reasons it out. He explains there's a logic chain there, and he says, we knew not that Iran was going to attack. He did not say that. He said, we knew that Israel was going to attack Iran, and in retaliation for those attacks by Israel against Iran, Iran might attack American forces. So the imminent threat that the Secretary of State is describing is not from Iran, it's from Israel.

43:48 Exactly, and I think this speaks to the broader issue. Who is in charge of our policy in the Middle East? Who's in charge of when we decide to go to war or not? In this case, with what the secretary described and later on the president, later on the Speaker of the House, and the way the events played out, the Israelis drove the decision to take this action, which we knew would set off a series of events, meaning the Iranians would retaliate. It's so unbelievable to me. If it was truly is, I can see people say, oh, he's got a Zionist gun pointed at his head, that's why he's doing it. The guy got shot, he doesn't care. He does not care, he doesn't care about the midterms, doesn't care about anything. He cares about getting the British system out of America. It surrounds us as a, you know, what do you think Canada is?

CHAPTER 18 / 46 Discussion

Neoconservative Censorship, Charlie Kirk Murder, British Influence

Tucker Carlson warns that neoconservatives are using the war in Iran to justify censoring and imprisoning domestic critics. Adam Curry posits that Carlson may be an agent for British interests, specifically the City of London, aimed at dividing the American conservative movement. Curry links these geopolitical tensions to the murder of Charlie Kirk and the resulting schism in the right wing.

neoconservatives· charlie kirk· tucker carlson· city of london· mi6

44:43 They have been running the oil business, the shipping business, the shipping insurance business for a hundred years. And we've always been the dummies who've protected them when it came down to it. Oh, we'll go into World War I, we'll go into World War II. And Trump is saying, no, we are going to stop it and we're going to control it. That is what's happening here. And Israel has not, so far they've only had downside. They've only got bombs incoming. They only have bad things happening. It has not benefited them. And now this was the kicker, what Tucker says here. So you've already seen in the wake of a recent terror attack, neocons used that attack as a way to try and censor, shut down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision to go to war in Iran.

45:33 So it's almost like you control both sides. You advocate... Did you hear what he said there? Yeah. He said, we killed a religious leader, so now it's a religious war. What? Are you kidding me now? This is not a religious leader. This is a nut job. As a way to try and censor, shut down, maybe even imprison critics of the decision to go to war in Iran. So it's almost like you control both sides. You advocate for a war which inevitably stokes religious hatred because you advocate for the killing of a religious leader. So you're helping to create religious war, permanent generational religious war. And then when your country or the country you happen to be living in that you don't really care about

46:19 Feels the effects when Americans are killed as a result of that you use their deaths To justify the silencing of people who criticize to you does that make sense no exactly yeah? So how much are you concerned we're gonna see more of that. I'm very concerned. I think we I probably won't But the odds are not in our favor just considering how open our borders have been Obviously this type of propaganda radicalizes people again. We've already seen attacks. We saw attacks inspired by the conflict in Gaza So I think we're gonna see more of this and then just you know Made the mistake of opening up Twitter a couple times today. There's people calling for you know dissenting voices and

46:59 to be charged, to be locked up, etc. And so the erosion of civil rights I think during a time of conflict is nothing new. Unfortunately we've seen it before. It's the rule. This is the part I don't understand. Who's being silenced? Well, besides that, I have never heard anyone since Tucker's been on his own show has pushed back against him. You know, like nobody pushes back. It's not like he's got any guardrails. I hate to use that term, but it's like nobody's hauling him in and he's getting nuttier and nuttier. Well, I think he's an agent. I think he is an agent for Britain.

47:36 And and he is at the genesis of all of this the whole Charlie Kirk thing. He's drawing that all towards him Be saying oh the whole problem is that Charlie wouldn't wouldn't Bar me from speaking at TPUSA the Jews hated it. This is what the British crown This is what the City of London does and I am connecting Charlie Kirk's murder to all of this and it's successful because it has completely driven a schism into the conservative right in the United States and It's those who think Israel did everything and those who don't well now I understand why Carlson was visited by a beast in the middle of the night Now I will say as a Christian. I gotta say Ephesians 6 is

CHAPTER 19 / 46 Discussion

Roseanne Barr, British Royal Family, Global Banking

Roseanne Barr appeared on Tim Pool's podcast to claim the British Royal Family and the City of London are the true powers behind global conflicts and money laundering. She cited Prince Andrew's connection to Jeffrey Epstein as evidence of systemic corruption. The discussion explores the theory that thirteen royal families control central banks and international financial policy through the Bank for International Settlements.

roseanne barr· tim pool· prince andrew· jeffrey epstein· city of london

48:29 We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness and the spiritual forces of evil and heavenly places. I truly believe that. I believe we are in... there's constant spiritual warfare going on. I'm just not sure what attacked Tucker, if you know what I mean. Well... We'll see. And so I'm gonna make it even crazier because we're all nuts here in the Hill Country. You know Roseanne Barr moved to the Hill Country. She lives right outside of Fredericksburg. I see her from time to time. She's a very odd woman. You know she's five foot one, maybe five feet tall at most? Oh yeah, she's tiny. Yeah, she's tiny. And I was introduced to her and she doesn't shake hands. She shakes arm.

49:18 So, you know, like a brother handshake where you grab each other's wrists and not that not you don't shake hands you grab the wrist. I don't shake hands. It was very strange. Yeah. But she was on with Beanie Boy, with Tim Pool, and she gets it. Well the truth is that the Royal British Empire is behind all of it. Uh oh. Oh no. Let's go. Let's do it. Tell me about it this time. And that is what Trump has, you know, pretty much kicked in the gut of. And that's because of Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein and all the banks of City of London. That's what's really coming down. And of course, Iran is a great money laundering center of all of that. And it sells 20% of its gas to China. So Trump has put them all, including Cuba, he's put their whole network that nobody ever talks about because they don't want to know the truth,

50:17 of how it's just British imperialism, standard oil is a better word for it than British imperialism. They'll go anywhere for the oil, they'll make up fake states all over the world and then sell weapons to both sides of every skirmish because they make money for their stock markets housed in Basel, Switzerland at the Bank of International Settlements where they decide and fund every war because they make money on war. They are the military, industrial, pharma, whatever, medical, every kind, they are consolidated raw power. And they are royal. And, you know, come on,

51:02 And in the past 20 or 30 years, things have been degrading internationally and financial policy. I think we need to be careful. It's more complex than that. Again, it's like we... Same issue that the anti-Semites are making, blaming Jews for everything. We need to be careful not to fall into the same trap. No, we can easily blame the banks of the City of London. Absolutely. I think that's more true. I agree with that more than the Royal Family specifically. But the Royal Family, you know, is the front office for that. Let's be real. I think it's involved, it has history, yes it has tendrils everywhere but it's just there's no one I think competent enough to be doing that. Listen to this Brit trying to defend her. Most of them are just sort of like they're in a kind of retirement home generally, the entire royal family. The prominent members like... The royals of this world own the central bank of all central banks. Which is a royal... All royals.

52:00 Not just UK. Not just UK. Okay, maybe. And they're all related to each other too. There's about 13 families of them. Let's jump to this next story. We've got this. Yeah, okay. Go ahead, Tim Pool. Don't dive into it, Tim. You might get Charlie Kirk'd. You don't want that. You know who defends the royal family more than those in the UK? Trump. The Canadians. Trump is always talking nice about them, but I think that's a wink and a nudge. Oh yeah, but all of the... She's right. They are. Look, the Van Montbatten's, they're all German. They're related to the Dutch. They're related to the Danes, related to the Swedes. They are. Just watch the crown. Watch Victoria. You get a real good sense of how that inbreeding has worked throughout the years. And where'd they get all the money? East India Company. The British Empire was robbing the entire world.

53:00 All that money went, what were they living off of? And now we have this kind of joke where, oh, where the taxpayers are paying for Buckingham Palace. These people own so much actual land, it's not funny. Well, and what no one ever talks about, there's a really excellent book called The Merchants of Grain. The talk has been updated in the last few years. Five families own control all the grain in the world in the entire world And if they want to cause famine, okay, you don't get your wheat this year. Is that Cargill? Are they part of the family? No, Cargill's another layer There's there's Cargill and you know

CHAPTER 20 / 46 Discussion

Merchants of Grain, Global Food Control, Trump Wealth

Mimi Smith Dvorak recommends the book "The Merchants of Grain," which details how five secretive families control the world's food supply and can trigger famines. The hosts discuss how Donald Trump's background in real estate allowed him to interact with these ultra-wealthy tiers of power. They argue Trump's perspective is unique because he understands the "poor rich" versus those who control global commodities.

merchants of grain· cargill· dreyfus· donald trump· wealth

52:00 Not just UK. Not just UK. Okay, maybe. And they're all related to each other too. There's about 13 families of them. Let's jump to this next story. We've got this. Yeah, okay. Go ahead, Tim Pool. Don't dive into it, Tim. You might get Charlie Kirk'd. You don't want that. You know who defends the royal family more than those in the UK? Trump. The Canadians. Trump is always talking nice about them, but I think that's a wink and a nudge. Oh yeah, but all of the... She's right. They are. Look, the Van Montbatten's, they're all German. They're related to the Dutch. They're related to the Danes, related to the Swedes. They are. Just watch the crown. Watch Victoria. You get a real good sense of how that inbreeding has worked throughout the years. And where'd they get all the money? East India Company. The British Empire was robbing the entire world.

53:00 All that money went, what were they living off of? And now we have this kind of joke where, oh, where the taxpayers are paying for Buckingham Palace. These people own so much actual land, it's not funny. Well, and what no one ever talks about, there's a really excellent book called The Merchants of Grain. The talk has been updated in the last few years. Five families own control all the grain in the world in the entire world And if they want to cause famine, okay, you don't get your wheat this year. Is that Cargill? Are they part of the family? No, Cargill's another layer There's there's Cargill and you know

53:42 I can't think of all the names. We have some big privately owned corporations that control our meat and control everything else, but there are five families that are very secretive, but it's laid out in this book called The Merchants of Grain, which I highly recommend because you read it and you go, I've never heard of these people. And they're tied into the international banking as well. And not the grain part, although he made, or the company now, it's Dreyfus. Julia Louis-Dreyfus's grandfather, he's one of the biggest shizers when it comes to oil, you know, getting oil from Libya, bringing it to Iran back and forth. I mean this, you're right, there are families you never ever hear about who were involved in all of this trade. And I'm pretty sure Trump sees through that and

54:34 You know, someone said on Twitter the other day, oh man, you guys have Trump-Durain syndrome in reverse. I said, what are you talking about? He said, you never talk about this. Well, you don't listen to every episode, I guess, because we have, and I show them bingit.io. Look, here it is. He said, well, you should criticize Trump more. If it's valid, if it's valid, well, we criticize Trump plenty. If it's valid and if we just happen to agree with what we see... Then where Zionist shills and especially me as the crazy Christian nationalist Zionists at work Well, the the one thing to remember is Trump has dealt with people who were Way richer than him. He's dealt with somebody because you know in the business that he's always been in I mean his family's not that rich. They really aren't they're kind of like low-level rich and you know when you at that level there are people who are so far head and shoulders above you that

CHAPTER 21 / 46 Discussion

Nina Brink, World Online IPO, Rothschild Sycophancy

Adam Curry shares an anecdote about Dutch businesswoman Nina Brink and the failed World Online IPO. He describes Brink's sycophantic reaction to the potential involvement of the Rothschild family in her business. The story serves as an illustration of how even very wealthy individuals are often awed by the historical power of established banking dynasties.

nina brink· world online· rothschild· ipo· netherlands

55:33 He has a perspective that most people don't have because he's dealt with them. He's made deals with them. He's you know, he's talked to them You know, there are people who are you can't even imagine how much they control and how rich they are and they're just people I mean, that's just it. I know my whole thing is, you know, everybody's a person everybody everybody put Exactly. But, you know, you know, I there in my past, I've known some people who are rich and I'd go, Oh, you're rich. They go, Oh, no, not at all. I'm like the poor rich. I'm like the Wrong side of the border rich and I'd be like, but you've got like a hundred million dollars. Oh, you have no idea It's true. I remember and our Dutch listeners will remember Nina Brink Nina Brink was the Dutch lady who? Bought up a couple of different internet companies Internet access companies and was going to launch world online and

56:31 And World Online was going to be a global internet services provider. You know, this is from the days when we still had dial-up modems and everything. She bought Euronet and a couple other companies, and she was going to float it on the stock market. She'd already been very successful with business IT systems, a company called A-Line. And Ron Blum and I, we went to raise money from her, which is how I came to know her. And I immediately saw kind of a woman, she's kind of this power woman, you know, dressed in the typical kind of

57:08 pastel colored, you know, the fuzzy dress, you know, that's supposed to be very expensive. She's got the helmet. The Chanel jackets. Yeah, yeah. And she's just, she has hair like Queen Ursula, Fond de Lyon. And right out of the bat, she's like, oh, this is great. Yes, we'll invest a million dollars in you in a subordinated loan. Okay, goodbye. You know, that's not investing. You're lending us money and then if we do anything good with it, you get the first money out. And if we don't, then we're your slave for the rest of our lives. So, but I got to know her. I tried to sell her a helicopter at one point. Wasn't very successful. But this was a big flop, this float, because it turns out right before the IPO,

57:58 She, it came out that she had pre-sold all of her shares before it went public. But I remember so clearly at a certain point, she says to me, oh, you know, this is before the IPO, the Rothschilds are interested, the Rothschilds. And she was like a slug, the Rothschilds, oh, the Rothschilds are interested. And she's a very wealthy woman, the same, hundreds of millions. But when she heard the Rothschilds, I might even meet the Rothschilds. I'm like, wow, you are a sycophant lady. You're sick. So yeah. And so I see the game that Trump is playing. It's an oil game. Now, the problem is

CHAPTER 22 / 46 Discussion

Stablecoins, World Reserve Currency, Human War Instinct

The discussion shifts to the necessity of transitioning the monetary system to stablecoins backed by U.S. Treasuries to maintain the dollar's status as the world reserve currency. Adam Curry and Mimi Smith Dvorak reflect on the nature of humanity as a "warring species," suggesting that conflict is an inherent part of human culture and tribalism.

stablecoins· world reserve currency· treasuries· warfare· anthropology

58:46 This is going to cost a lot of money. He's already asking for, you know, a trillion and a half dollar military budget next year. The only way to fix the debt is to get interest rates way down. Yeah. And to switch the monetary system to stable coins so that we still have the world reserve currency, because if we don't have the world reserve currency through stable coin, which are backed by treasuries, then we're toast. So it is a big gamble. I mean, it's Trump casino level gamble and that didn't turn out so well. But at least he's doing something different. That's what I like. And I don't like war, of course. I don't like that. But every single one of us listening or speaking was born into a world at war. Every single person. That is the world.

59:42 You know, it's not like we aren't warring a warring species. That's what we do We've formed tribes and then we war against another tribe. That's what we've done since the beginning I mean, that's why there's no the end the andertals here anymore, you know You know the there were other species and we wiped them out or we and maybe we just with him Maybe we just need to come with two terms with our own culture. We are a warring, fighting people. Yeah, that's what we are. That is, and we believe it's just when we do it. It's fun, I'm sure. It's fun? Let's be honest, that's not fun. Let's do something fun because this came across from New York Post. I believe it's an AI voice, which is disappointing, but the story is fantastic.

CHAPTER 23 / 46 Discussion

Mojtaba Khamenei, Iranian Supreme Leader, Gay Allegations

The New York Post reported on U.S. intelligence claims that the new Iranian Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, is gay. The report suggests his father, the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, feared his son's suitability to rule for this reason. Intelligence sources allege Mojtaba had a long-term relationship with a childhood tutor and made overtures to male caregivers while hospitalized.

mojtaba khamenei· ali khamenei· new york post· lgbtq· iran

1:00:34 President Trump was stunned to learn that US intelligence indicates new Iranian Supreme Leader Moshe Tabak Khamenei may be gay and that his father, the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, feared his suitability to rule the Islamic Republic for that reason. The Post can reveal. Trump couldn't contain a surprise and laughed aloud when he was briefed on the intel, according to sources. Others in the room also found it, quote, hilarious and joined the president's reaction. While one senior intelligence official has not stopped laughing about it for days, said one person familiar with the briefing. The shocking claim was described to the Post by two intelligence community officials and a third person close to the White House. All three sources say the implausible sounding allegation is viewed as credible by U.S. spy agencies.

1:01:20 Two of the sources said the intelligence indicates that Mostaba has had a long-term sexual relationship with his childhood tutor. The third source said the intelligence indicated the affair was with a person who formerly worked for the Khamenei family. Mostaba, who is believed to have been wounded in the same February 28th airstrike that killed his father and other members of his family, has made aggressive sexual overtures to men caring for him, possibly while under the influence of heavy medication, one of the post's sources said. US spy agencies do not have photographic evidence of the 56-year-old's alleged sexual attraction to men, but the sources insisted the tip is solid, with one saying it was derived from one of the most protected sources that the government has. I don't know if you caught that, but when someone says the tip is solid, I'm like, I'm sold on the story. Thank you very much. The Gayatola Khomeini. Perfect. You know, his father, I'm shocked his father let him live.

1:02:18 Yeah, yeah. All these people, you know, saying, oh, you know, we're protesting against, you know, for Iran, against the United States. Do they understand that homosexuality is a death sentence? That, you know, they Other opinions aren't accepted. I mean, it's like all these people would be dead if they went to Iran under the last regime under the IRGC I love the fact I bet he is gay good. He kind of I'm all for him My gate now that I look at the guy and my gaydar does kind of go off like hmm I never thought never looked at him that way Okay

CHAPTER 24 / 46 Discussion

Fujairah Port Attacks, Oil Pipeline Bypass, Gas Prices

Iranian attacks targeted the UAE port of Fujairah, a critical export point that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. The International Energy Agency reported the largest oil supply disruption in history due to the conflict. While gas prices have risen to nearly $5.00 a gallon in some areas, the hosts suggest the situation is a strategic move to force China to pay retail prices for energy.

fujairah· uae· strait of hormuz· oil pipeline· gas prices

1:03:06 You like him, huh? No I'm not not not into that not in there. So over and overnight there was some You know at this point. I'm thinking what it because clearly You know Everything is destroyed their radar their Air Force. They can still shoot off some missiles. I'm sure but the drones they still got drones and The Straits of Hormuz, I'm thinking more and more like maybe we just keep that shut for a little bit. I mean we're working on alternatives with our GCC friends in the Abraham Accords. It's only a tenth of what it needs to be but it is an alternative. Iranian attacks on the oil facilities of neighboring Gulf nations are creating

1:03:57 when new chaos for exports Brian. Iranian attacks have targeted the United Arab Emirates port of Fujairah for the second day in a row reportedly triggering a large fire at an oil facility there. Fujairah is one of the very few points of export for Gulf oil producing nations that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. It's determinist for an Emirati oil pipeline that runs from Hobshan, that's a port that lies before the key maritime choke point now effectively closed by the threat of Iranian attacks. That pipeline typically handles around 1.5 million barrels per day, maxing out at 1.8 million of the UAE's 3.5 million daily total. Iran is well aware of the pipeline's value in allowing tankers to avoid this trade of hormones.

1:04:44 Saudi Arabia has its own bypass pipeline going from Abqaiq on the Persian Gulf to Yanbu on the Red Sea. A fleet of tankers has now gathered at Yanbu waiting to load up on oil. Shipments from Yanbu have gone from 2.1 million barrels per day to 3.1 million over the past week. The head of the International Energy Agency, meanwhile, says the current war has created the largest oil supply disruption in the history of global markets. So that's only 10% of what normally comes through the straits, but maybe they can amp that up. I'm not sure. I think that... Tina texted me the other day, I just filled up my car with premium. It was $4.69 a gallon. Thanks, Trump! Well, yeah, yes, it sucks right now, but I really think that this is more

CHAPTER 25 / 46 Discussion

Russian Tanker Drone Strike, South Pars Gas Field

A Russian tanker carrying liquid petroleum gas was reportedly hit by Ukrainian drones off the coast of Italy, leading to a massive fire. Meanwhile, Israel allegedly struck the South Pars gas field, the world's largest natural gas field shared by Iran and Qatar. Qatar accused Israel of irresponsible escalation that threatens global energy security.

ukraine· russian tanker· south pars· qatar· lng

1:05:40 shenanigans than anything. This is going to get solved. What we want is China to pay retail. Stop with your wholesale prices, China. Retail. Right. I didn't get a clip but evidently the Russian tanker was hit by Why can't I remember the name of the country? Ukraine. Yeah. By Ukraine, by drones. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you say Ukraine because that's. Okay. Okay. Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. Ukraine. Okay. Ukraine. And the tanker is on fire. It has liquid petroleum gas and crude and it's floating off of Italy and everyone's been told to stay, you know,

1:06:29 shelter in place. 500 kilometers away because it's a bomb. They don't know when it's going to go off. Nice. Yeah. Well, this is what's amazing. When it comes to LNG, liquefied natural gas, that's our business. Yeah. So when this happened the other day, when Iran bombed a gas field or gas installation that belonged to the Qataris, and you know, they shared this one huge gas field in the Gulf there. It's like that only that's going to Europe.

1:07:04 And that means we're going to be selling more of it. So I mean, to me, it's like, OK. And then Trump was mad at the Israelis about this. South Pars is the largest natural gas field in the world, split between Iran and Qatar. Iran says it was targeted by airstrikes overnight, reportedly by Israel. Iran's president warning of consequences beyond control. And Qatar accused Israel of a dangerous and irresponsible step that threatens global energy security. In response, Iran advised citizens near five oil and gas facilities in US-allied Gulf states, including Qatar, to evacuate. And on Wednesday night, Qatar reported major damage from a missile attack at a refinery. Saudi Arabia also said it intercepted ballistic missiles.

1:07:58 The price of oil has spiked again amid the tensions, and as the Gulf remains closed off for energy exports to nations Iran sees as allied with the US and Israel. We all agree, of course, that the strait has to open up again. And what I know is that allies are working together discussing how to do that. US allies have so far refused White House requests for help to open up the Strait of Hormuz. Overnight, the US military says it struck Iranian missile sites along the strait. The United States military has a lot of capabilities as you have seen play out over the last 18 days and they still do have tricks up their sleeve. Ooh, tricks up their sleeve. So here's what the president posted. Truth, he truthed it.

1:08:43 It says, Israel out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars gas field in Iran. A relatively small section of the hole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar was in no way shape or form involved. with it nor did have any idea was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's LNG gas facility. And then uppercase, no more attacks will be made by Israel.

CHAPTER 26 / 46 Discussion

Donald Trump Truth Social, Qatar LNG Protection

President Donald Trump posted a lengthy statement on Truth Social regarding the attack on the South Pars gas field. Trump clarified that the U.S. was not involved in the Israeli strike and warned that any further attacks on Qatar's LNG facilities would result in a massive American military response. He emphasized that the U.S. would act with or without Israeli consent to protect energy infrastructure.

donald trump· truth social· qatar· south pars· israel

1:07:58 The price of oil has spiked again amid the tensions, and as the Gulf remains closed off for energy exports to nations Iran sees as allied with the US and Israel. We all agree, of course, that the strait has to open up again. And what I know is that allies are working together discussing how to do that. US allies have so far refused White House requests for help to open up the Strait of Hormuz. Overnight, the US military says it struck Iranian missile sites along the strait. The United States military has a lot of capabilities as you have seen play out over the last 18 days and they still do have tricks up their sleeve. Ooh, tricks up their sleeve. So here's what the president posted. Truth, he truthed it.

1:08:43 It says, Israel out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars gas field in Iran. A relatively small section of the hole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack and the country of Qatar was in no way shape or form involved. with it nor did have any idea was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar's LNG gas facility. And then uppercase, no more attacks will be made by Israel.

1:09:19 Because you know he's got that Zionist gun to his head so he's that's why he's doing an uppercase. Pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent in this case Qatar in which instance the United States of America with or without the help or consent of Israel because Israel needs that gas will will massively blow up, that's bigger than just big, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars gas field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long-term implications that it will have on the future of Iran, but if Qatar's LNG is attacked again, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

1:10:05 So there is the president afraid of Israel, I guess. He's pissed! And I'm gonna guarantee you they don't do that again. I love that line. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I hope this letter finds you well. Yeah, actually that's pretty frightening. The thought of what we could do, you know, like I'm gonna I'm gonna take my ball and bat and I'm going home Well, we're not gonna go home. This is this is going to this is going to be resolved and everything will end the question is will Iran figure it out and for sure we have so-called boots on the ground and we've got

1:10:57 agents and all over the place. You know, the IRCG is, they're a kind of a distributed organization. So they're targeting all these regional IRGC offices. There's a lot going on. I'm just hearing about this. I have no proof of it other than what military people are telling me, which could be propaganda. I don't know. But it sounds true. We don't have a troop carriers going out there yet. And I don't think that will happen. I don't think so. And I think it will return back to some normalcy probably within the next few weeks and then we'll see.

CHAPTER 27 / 46 Discussion

Abraham Accords, Former President Envy, Trump Ratings

Donald Trump claimed that a former president told him they wished they had taken his aggressive stance toward Iran. Trump argued that his actions have turned Iran from a regional bully into a "shell of itself," paving the way for the Abraham Accords. The hosts speculate that the former president in question might be Bill Clinton, given Trump's comments about Hillary Clinton's influence.

abraham accords· bill clinton· george w. bush· iran· nuclear weapons

1:11:34 But even apparently former presidents are a little envious that Trump is the one who did this. Other presidents should have done, I spoke to one of the former presidents, who I actually like, actually speak to some, I do like some people, it would be shocking. And he said, I wish I did what you did. Could have done it. Other presidents, somebody should have done it. 47 years this went on. They call Iran the bully of the Middle East. And you could have never had the Abraham Accords. You could never have had peace in the Middle East. Now you're going to have peace. You could never do it with the dark cloud of a nuclear Iran.

1:12:15 But Iran is a shell of itself. It's no longer a bully. It's the one that gets bullied. It's a bully that got beat up. We beat the crap out of them. And they deserve that. I just want to ask you about something very interesting that you said twice today. You talked to another former president about the Iran strikes. Was it George W Bush? No. Was it Bill Clinton? I don't want to say. I don't want to say it. A member of a party, a member of a party. They have Trump derangement syndrome all but it's somebody that happens to like me and I like that person who's a smart person. But that person said, I wish I did it.

1:13:00 Okay, but I don't want to get into who. I don't want to get him into trouble. Maybe, hey, you know what? I think you probably know. You know, it's interesting. And maybe he'd be proud. I could even ask him, would you like me to reveal your name to Peter at Fox? Well, at least you have high ratings. Hillary wouldn't let him. Come on. Exactly. Hey, Donald. I really like that, man. I wish I had done that. Would have been good. Could have been real good. Yeah, Hillary wouldn't let him. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was funny. The guessing game, you know. That's Trump. What else you got on your list here, Mimi? You seem to have other things you brought along to the party. So did you watch the Oscars? You know, I'm glad you asked. First of all, ratings down almost 10% over last year.

CHAPTER 28 / 46 Discussion

Academy Awards Ratings, Barbara Streisand, Josh Brolin

Adam Curry notes that the Academy Awards ratings dropped 10% this year, calling the event an objective failure. Mimi Smith Dvorak shares anecdotes about encountering celebrities like Barbara Streisand and Josh Brolin at "Sunny Farms," a local grocery store in Washington. She describes her indifference toward fame and her interactions with Streisand, whom she claims looked like "the Crypt Keeper."

oscars· barbara streisand· josh brolin· sunny farms· sequim

1:13:54 only three and a half million in the demo watch, so that is an objective failure. I could not even get through the monologue. The first problem for me was, you know, he does the opening sequence and I have not seen any of the movies, so I knew that they, you know, that this all related to the movies, but I had not seen any of them, because who goes to the movie theaters anymore? And the mic sounded so bad. I couldn't get a... I was like, oh man, it could not get... It bothered me too much. And I thought the decor was orange, burnt orange kind of color. So no, I did... On YouTube, I later went back and I looked at my favorite segment, the dead segment. And there's Barbara singing the way we were and she was... It was crap.

1:14:51 She doesn't look... She looks like... The Crypt Keeper. No, no, no. Who was our Health and Human Services Secretary? The Admiral? The dude in the dress? Who was that? I don't remember, but yes. Come on. That's what she looked like! Right away, Tina's like, that's the Admiral. I said, the Admiral? Yeah, yeah, yeah, from Health and Human Services. Oh, I gotta look up his name now. Levine, that's right, Levine. Levine. Levine. So, you know, for several years, she had a summer place that she would come to up here and I would see her at the local, you know, little independent grocery store. Barbara or Levine? Barbara. Babs, yes.

1:15:40 And so her husband is, what's her husband? Her husband is, what's Mr. Babs? Oh, Brosnan. Pierce Brosnan. So I run into him at at Sunny Farms, I love Sunny Farms. And I was looking at him and he had one of those- Is that a spa for celebrities, Sunny Farms? Is that where you go to detox? Sunny Farms is the local nut house that has great vegetables and has a butcher counter. It's just a little independent grocery store. Got you. Trendy. Trendy. So I go there and Broslin's there and I don't recognize him really but I noticed he had the most beautiful haircut I've seen for a long time. A Brolin, I'm sorry Josh Brolin. Josh Brolin. Thank you. So he has... Smoothly said. It's one of those haircuts that looks like every hair was cut individually. Measured and cut individually. It was gorgeous. And I went, that's a, you've got a great haircut. What, you said that? Yeah, I said that to him. Why not? I'm, you know, I'm in the potato aisle. And

1:16:40 He looks at me and he goes, do you know who I am? And I went, well, do you know who I am? And I walk away. You showed him Mimi. I'm Mary Lee Diane, just so you know. I'm Mary Diane, I own this place up here in Sequim, whatever it's called, Port Angeles. So Barbara would always, Barbara, whatever you say your name, Streisand, would be in line Shopping with us peasants, you know with like Sunglasses on and really expensive shoes. You have you have a hatred of famous people well And she's looking around like who's recognizing me and it's like we don't give a shit, you know, you're in sunny farms We don't care your shop and she'd be up here all the time. You'd run into her I ran into her maybe five or six times She didn't look like that. I mean she's had some work and it doesn't look good and

CHAPTER 29 / 46 Discussion

Jane Fonda, Robert Redford, Oscar In Memoriam Omissions

The hosts criticize the Oscar "In Memoriam" segment, noting that Jane Fonda appeared to have been drinking before her tribute to Robert Redford. They list several notable figures omitted from the segment, including Bridgette Bardot, Robert Carradine, and David Kiley, the inventor of IMAX. Adam mentions that John C. Dvorak watched the ceremony while in the hospital.

jane fonda· robert redford· oscars· bridgette bardot· imax

1:17:37 I absolutely loved, I have a fonda about Redford clip. Can I, before you go in, I just, oh no, we'll play that and then I have to say something about your hatred for famous people. Uh, Fonda, Fonda. Oh, Fonda. Here we go. I mean, we lost so many greats this year. I don't know how come Streisand was up there doing that for Redford. She only made one movie with him. I made four. You made four! I have more to say. See, now, I mean, what do you remember most about working with Robert Redford? I was always in love with him. Fonda, how old is Fonda now? How old is she? About the same age, you know, in her 80s. 88, she's 88. And she looks like she had a few to drink. So did you notice who they left out of the, of the, of the memorandum? No, who did they leave out? They left out Bridgette Bardot, Robert Carradine, Bud Porte. Really? Richard Chamberlain.

1:18:35 And they left out David Kiley who invented IMAX Huh, it was yeah, I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't watch it John described he was since he was in the hospital. I had nothing else to do. He described early on. Oh, he watched it Yeah, he did well twice I think of their early on there were three people who are up on stage and the first two got to speak and the third one The music cued up and she was like, okay, and then somebody said no. No, you're you're with Netflix. Thank Netflix And they stopped they didn't lower the music. They just stopped it to allow her to give her net So You yeah your stance towards famous people the way I just heard you talk about her Say that she was looking around to see if anyone recognized her you could be a Dutch person and

CHAPTER 30 / 46 Discussion

Celebrity Culture, W.C. Fields, Paparazzi Anecdotes

Mimi Smith Dvorak discusses her family's history in vaudeville through her grandmother, Emma Janvier, who worked with W.C. Fields. Adam Curry reflects on his own experience with fame in the Netherlands and as an MTV VJ in New York. They discuss the loss of privacy associated with celebrity and how some stars, like Harrison Ford, choose to live away from Hollywood to avoid the paparazzi.

w.c. fields· emma janvier· vaudeville· paparazzi· netherlands

1:19:34 Dutch this is how Dutch people are around celebrities. I Overnight I was famous in the Netherlands at 19 years of age because I was doing a live music show on one of the two television stations that and there was nothing else to watch that that was it and I would be in a store or somewhere and people would come up to me and said I I don't know who you are because I don't watch television. And that reminds me of you Mimi, this hatred of people who are famous. This is very interesting. And you've mentioned this to me. You said, I don't get celebrity. I don't like famous people. What is your problem, lady? Well, wait a minute. Let's go back. My father's mother, my grandmother, my actually

1:20:27 Native grandmother was a stage on stage. She was actually a very famous stage actress and she's the one who introduced WC Fields to her producers and got him in a play called Poppy which later became Sally of the Sawdust his first motion picture. Emma, her name was Emma Janvier, and Emma Janvier died in 1921-22, right around there, during the production of Poppy. And so my dad knew everybody as a kid, everybody in the whole business. I mean, you know, people that no one will remember, but, and you know, as a little kid, I'd ask him, because at W.C. Fields, my dad stayed close all through my

1:21:12 my dad's life. Tell people who WC Fields was because I don't think everybody knows him. People don't even, 20 year olds don't even know who Michael Jackson is. So you've got to explain. Okay. WC Fields was a vaudevillian juggler, one of the best jugglers in the world. He juggled whole cigar boxes and many of them. Yeah, I know. And he, he, he did a, um, He was mostly in vaudeville, which is how Emma knew him because Emma was also in vaudeville. Emma got him into the movies and earned the that one play which led to the movies and he was in a series of movies. He did a lot of radio shows. He was exceptionally popular because he was such a goofball character and he had a funny delivery like he'd be like, you know, my little chickadee and I would ask my dad as a kid, you know, did he talk like that? My dad would go no, he talked just like you and me. What do you what do you think? He's just a person.

1:22:08 So, in my life, I've been able to meet lots of people who are famous and some people, you know, I feel sorry for them because you never have a moment without somebody there or the paparazzi showing up and taking pictures or people just intruding on you. And so I've always just kind of like, you know, I've let me let me say this about that. Yes. You know about that. Yes, I do. I am uniquely qualified to discuss this. Any celebrity can can get around that. Yeah, you can get around it. You may have some restrictions on your life, like maybe you can't eat at the Ivy in Hollywood, you know, or in an out burger.

1:22:57 With an Oscar in your hand, maybe maybe you know I've had In the Netherlands when I was with my first wife before we were married. It was quite scandalous She was still married. She was 16 years my senior both in show business small country we had Photographers in the trash can I kid you not it was hilarious But in general, it was quite easy to get around stuff and not, you know, I never felt like, oh, I have no privacy. I can't live. You know, if you don't have to live in the big house in Brentwood, you know, you can you can live all kinds of different places. Hollywood is not Hollywood. You don't need to live there, which is why I have so much respect for, you know,

1:23:45 you know, um, many, uh, like Harrison Ford doesn't need to live somewhere in Montana or whatever, you know, go away, go live somewhere else. I have enjoyed, uh, fame for it. And I can, I remember three specific instances, but it's, and people know me from two things and it's been fantastic. So when I was in my 19 twenties, um, I was known in Holland and across Europe, There was one one scary kind of time when I got mobbed at an airport in Portugal, but it was also cool I'm like wow look at this. I'm like the Beatles it was awesome

CHAPTER 31 / 46 Discussion

Adam Curry MTV Fame, Restaurant Perks, Value for Value

Adam Curry recounts the perks of his early fame, such as receiving free meals and swag at the Hard Rock Cafe in the 1980s. He explains how his MTV background helped him in business meetings but also required him to apologize for technical failures. Now in his 60s, he enjoys being recognized from the Joe Rogan Experience and podcasting, which often results in better seating at restaurants.

mtv· hard rock cafe· joe rogan· podcasting· value for value

1:22:57 With an Oscar in your hand, maybe maybe you know I've had In the Netherlands when I was with my first wife before we were married. It was quite scandalous She was still married. She was 16 years my senior both in show business small country we had Photographers in the trash can I kid you not it was hilarious But in general, it was quite easy to get around stuff and not, you know, I never felt like, oh, I have no privacy. I can't live. You know, if you don't have to live in the big house in Brentwood, you know, you can you can live all kinds of different places. Hollywood is not Hollywood. You don't need to live there, which is why I have so much respect for, you know,

1:23:45 you know, um, many, uh, like Harrison Ford doesn't need to live somewhere in Montana or whatever, you know, go away, go live somewhere else. I have enjoyed, uh, fame for it. And I can, I remember three specific instances, but it's, and people know me from two things and it's been fantastic. So when I was in my 19 twenties, um, I was known in Holland and across Europe, There was one one scary kind of time when I got mobbed at an airport in Portugal, but it was also cool I'm like wow look at this. I'm like the Beatles it was awesome

1:24:22 But I was, you know, I was 20 or whatever. So it was, yeah, 20. I remember moving to New York in the late, mid to late eighties and just on MTV. MTV had just gone to basic cable, 40 million households. So it was definitely a thing. And we lived on 56th and Broadway and we walked to the Hard Rock Cafe on 57th. And the hard rock was such a thing. People stood in line to get into the hard rock. And so we were in line, and I had my baseball cap on, whatever. It wasn't necessarily a look at me, I'm Adam Curry with the hair all poofed up.

1:25:03 And I remember, I remember the doorman rushing up to me and saying, hey Adam, hey man, you don't have to stand in line, come on in. And so we got in, we ate for free, they gave us all kinds of cool hard rock stuff. I remember thinking to myself, wow, that's really odd. Like two weeks ago, I would have had to stay in the line and now I'm in here eating for free, getting free swag. This is great. And so that was the one time. And so I'm either known for, you know, those days I was known for MTV for a long time. It was it was bad and also not good for me after I left MTV. I started my company. This became a big company. We took it public in Nasdaq on Nasdaq in 96. And we had big customers, Budweiser, Reebok,

1:25:56 IBM, Avon, like just, you know, Fortune 500 companies at the time. And it was great because I, you know, we do a sales meeting and pretty much this all fell on the marketing department, but they'd always bring in the IT guys. So I could, I could, I could swoon over the ladies in the marketing department who were going to make decisions. But I also had the technological background to talk to the IT nerds. That was good, but the bad part was whenever something, whenever we screwed up, it's like I had to go fly and I had to go apologize to the ladies in the marketing department. I'll send the MTV guy in. And now in my early 60s, I'm 61, but ever since my 50s, you know, I've been in Texas kind of, you know, low profile. I'm just a dude, you know, I'm a podcaster. I'm known from Rogan.

1:26:51 and from podcasting. And the only benefit, which I enjoy tremendously, is that restaurants will always get me a good table. The owner always comes over. He's got a Metallica t-shirt underneath, you know? And I have to say it's fantastic. I love it. And I'm a great tipper. I'm a great, but value for value, baby. I'm a value for value tipper. I'm a great tipper because I was a waitress for a long time. So, when I... So, okay, I've had this convoluted background, lived in Reno and then lived in Iran, and then came to California for a year, and then my parents were deciding we went back to Reno. And my father was going back to being a merchant marine, so he got offered a job with Mattson Lines from Hawaii to the West Coast.

CHAPTER 32 / 46 Discussion

Jim Morrison Encounter, Royal Hawaiian Hotel, 1968

Mimi Smith Dvorak shares a story from the summer of 1968 when she stayed at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel in Honolulu. She befriended a young man who lamented the burdens of fame, only to later discover he was Jim Morrison of The Doors. Morrison invited Mimi's parents to his performance, but her mother declined the invitation, preferring to go to dinner instead.

jim morrison· the doors· royal hawaiian hotel· honolulu· 1968

1:27:45 So, we went and stayed in Hawaii for the entire three months of the summer because my mother needed to be convinced that she could live in Hawaii, because that would be my dad's home base in Honolulu. So, this was back before jumbo jets, so Hawaii wasn't super crowded, it was just for the ultra rich. And we stayed at the Royal Hawaiian for three months. I had a great childhood. Yeah, this was like 68. So I, my parents just let me have run of the hotel so I could go down, I could sign for food, I could, you know, I could go to the beach before dawn and I usually left the room right before dawn because, you know, I was a kid. I had no controls. I was everywhere. So I would, my favorite thing to do would be to go sit

1:28:35 in the next to the pool in the Royal Hawaiian right before dawn because you would it was amazing you could smell the plumeria and you can all these great intoxicating scents and then breakfast would start and it would be slowly evolve into the city waking up and the smell of bacon cooking and all that so one morning I'm down there And I've got, you know, my feet in the pool and somebody comes up and sits down next to me and he was a couple years older than me. Really nice. We hung out with each other for several mornings, but that one morning we just, we just talked and he talked about what a burden it was to be famous. And I, you know, he really influenced me in a lot of ways because I could see it through his eyes because he was really lamenting it. I was lamenting being lonely because

1:29:21 You know, I had my brother in Reno, my brother had gone off to the university. I kept getting ripped back and forth away from friends. And I'm in Hawaii, I don't know anybody, I'm just the brat kid in the hotel. And so for several mornings, we would hang out, we'd run the beach before dawn, we just had a great time. And then his entourage would come down and take him away. So then you lost you lost your train of thought didn't you know no I was just trying to go with which direction to go whether I tell you who it is so

1:30:02 One night my parents and I were getting ready to go out to dinner and my parents went to you know restaurants constantly And we we in that lobby we come up on him and his entourage and he comes up and he says Oh, mr. And mrs. Smith. I have loved hanging out with your daughter She's been the bright point of In my world, you know Mimi was has been so kind to me. Would you please come as my guest to my performance tonight? And here we go, the big reveal. Who was it? It was Jim Morrison. Wow. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. John, is that where you met Mimi? No. Hey, Dvorak, you missed your cue. You missed your cue. I know I missed the cue. You guys are off the road. You've driven off the road. You're bouncing around in the desert now. Ladies and gentlemen, he's back from the dead. He lives!

CHAPTER 33 / 46 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Surprise Appearance, Recovery Update

John C. Dvorak makes a surprise live appearance on the stream, confirming he is out of the hospital and plans to return to the show on Sunday. He jokingly criticizes Mimi's storytelling and Adam's hosting. The hosts express mutual affection and relief regarding John's recovery from his "valve job" and cardiac procedure.

john c. dvorak· heart surgery· recovery· no agenda· banter

1:30:56 Hey, you blew my punchline. Yes, I'm out of the hospital and I should be doing the show on Sunday. And I couldn't help it, since Adam invited me, hey, you could, you know, you could, you could like, you know, maybe jump in the show here if you feel, I kind of feel like it. And he steps on my punchline. So we have a group here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Mimi's complaining that you blew her punchline. Let her get the punchline. I know the punchline, that's why I did it. Oh, the Bickerson's are back. So I'm actually given this opportunity to... You can't get her back on the road. No. Okay, you tell it. I'm going to be silent and tell the... Oh no, you go ahead, John. You can tell them. You do the punchline for me. I forgot the punchline. Okay. Wow. So yeah, nevermind. I'll tell you later. No, I want... No, no. Everyone's on pins and needles. Now we need to know. So hold on. It was Jim Morrison.

1:31:55 right? And he was getting ready to play the big venue in Hawaii for one night, and he invites my parents to come to backstage to be able to see a show. And before he even gets it out, my mother goes, no, no thank you, no. And we go to dinner. That's the punchline. That is a good story. That is a great story. Hey, John, Mimi has been doing the show, been filling in for you, been doing fantastic. I have definitely concluded that without either one of us, no agenda is not a show. I miss you.

1:32:38 But Mimi's been pretty fun, I gotta be honest with you. No, she's good, except when she goes off driving off the road. Because what she was doing there, if you remember, you're the one that triggered it by the way. You basically said, Mimi, give us a shaggy dog story on how you hate celebrities. No, I did not! I did not! I did not! And the end of the Shaggy Dog story is not, I don't feel, it's just like the guy sitting at the table and saying, hey, hey, Frank, Frank, Frank Sinatra, say hi to me when you come by because that's gonna impress this girl. And then Frank goes, you know, just walking by the guy and at the table and the guy, he's on the phone and looks up at Frank, he says, hey, hey, later maybe. It's a kind of similar material.

1:33:23 So anyway, I'll be doing the show on Sunday. You sound the same. It's like nothing. Did you just go to the Seychelles on vacation? You don't sound like you've been operated on at all. I wish. Yeah, right. Yeah, have your chest cracked open someday, see what you think. No, thank you. I'll pass if you don't mind. Well, clearly John got a good night's sleep last night. I did not. Why? It is almost impossible to sleep because I like to sleep. I'm a side sleeper just like Tucker. I'm looking for somebody to claw me and it hasn't happened. Ooh, callback! Nice! He's on fire. And so I can't do that. I have to sleep on my back and it's very tedious. Tedious is not good. There is something in your voice that is different. It's, there's like a small extra spark of enthusiasm

1:34:20 Do you think that's possible? I miss the audience. Yeah, the trolls miss you. I miss you doing it. Yeah, do you miss your wife at all? I mean, just as an aside. What? I like the fact that she says it's hard to do this three hours of yakety yak. In the whole week of finding clips. But I do better on ISOs than you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's got nine ISOs. Well, and also, by the way, I miss you, Adam. Oh, thank you, John. So everybody out there should note that. Yes. And I miss you too. I said that to you privately. I said, man, I miss you. And I said it to Tina. I said, you know, I never thought I'd say, because initially I never thought I'd think that. No, no, this is interesting because you know, like a week ago, Tina's like, can you call John? Like, what am I going to say? We've got nothing to say to each other. You've been around us when we're, when we're not on the show. I got nothing to say.

1:35:16 And she's like, what? I said, no, well, you know, whatever. He's okay. And then, you know, I was like, Brunetti said, oh, I talked to John Horowitz. I talked to John like, okay, now I got to talk to John. And I talked to you and I was like, I really miss this guy. It's, you know, 18 years is a long time. Yeah, he didn't grouse for the first week, which really scared me. What, when you were married? The first week of your marriage? No, the first week he was in the hospital, he barely groused. He'd be like, and I was like, where's John? I want John back. I want him to say something mean to me.

1:35:54 There you go. I think you know on that note like I said, I'll be on Sunday, and I hope that you guys I'll leave you alone. I was actually gonna intending on jumping on the into this stream during the donations. Well, we're just about to get into the donation segment. Yeah, I'm good enough. And so I said, yes, okay. So excuse me and I'll be on my way. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, there he is. John C. Dvorak. He put the C in cardiac arrest. Beautiful. All right. All right, buddy. I'll talk to you on Sunday. Gotcha. All right. I'm disconnecting you now because I don't trust you. All right.

CHAPTER 34 / 46 Discussion

Markwayne Mullin, Donald Trump, Brain Injury Story

During a confirmation hearing, Senator Markwayne Mullin shared an emotional story about President Donald Trump's support after Mullin's son suffered a serious brain injury in 2020. Mullin claimed Trump called daily to check on the boy and that a visit from the President helped jog his son's memory. The hosts discuss the humanizing aspect of the story and its impact on Trump's image.

markwayne mullin· donald trump· brain injury· mar-a-lago· confirmation hearing

1:46:52 Yeah. Oh, this was a nice story. So the dog shooter got kicked out, Kristi Noem. Yeah. Yep. And did you see any of the confirmation hearing with this new guy, Mullen? I did, but he doesn't have much personality. Did you see the tearjerker moment? No. Oh, this is, I mean, I saw this and I'm like, you're confirmed. Oh, wait a minute. I hate Trump. I can't confirm him, but wait, I'm confused. So my son was a really,

1:47:28 world-class athlete and January 17th of 2020, which mind you was an election year. He had a really serious brain injury and the president found out about it and he gave me a call immediately. He didn't understand the severity of it but he heard it in my voice and immediately went to work. He called almost every day for two weeks checking on Jim and then he says I'm going to come see him. The center told us that the short-term memory loss would something would trigger it some big event would eventually trigger where he'd start retaining stuff until then he was still having issues. And the president arrived, and for the next 15 minutes he did nothing but love on my son. That one incident jogged his memory. And from then on he started retaining things. And Jim's attitude went from this, you know, we're going to get through it, to this, I'm going to get through it. When we got released a little bit, the president said, come to Mar-a-Lago and see me.

1:48:28 We go down there and it was amazing. And when we're leaving, dang it, I hate getting emotional. See, if I talk about my kids, I get emotional. Other than that, you can't make me cry. Anyways, he grabbed my son and he said, he said, do you know why I love your dad? Do you know why I love your dad? Chrissy tells a story better than I do. And he goes, no, sir. He goes, because he loves you. Because of you, because of you. Man, he didn't do it for any other reason. I mean, here's the President of the United States and he did it just because he cared. I believe that story. Yeah. I totally believe that. Yeah.

1:49:08 Oh, yeah, I get now I think more people should get choked up when they speak Yes, I'll try and do it on Sunday. It may not be easy I'm gonna try and get choked up and try to be all emotional about it because I'm sure John will hate it I'm sure he would he said he missed me. He did you hear him? You heard him? He said he missed me. I heard it. You got it on tape, right? Yeah. Yeah, right next to Right next to I can't stand one more fucking jello cup. Yeah right next to that one I record it's all recorded All right, you're out in California. Let's talk of let's talk fraud, but I mean you're not in California on the west coast You're in the front on the fraud coast Do we want to talk about Chavez first getting cancelled? Oh

1:49:55 Yeah, sure, whatever. That's fine. Okay. I have no idea what's going on Chavez getting cancelled. Here we go troubling details of a New York Times investigation into sexual assault allegations against farm labor icon and Arizona native Cesar Chavez Two women have now come forward to accuse Chavez of rape and several others say he sexually abused them. Perhaps most shocking is the account from Dolores Huerta, the now 95-year-old co-founder of the UFW. And now tonight, several groups and cities are canceling events in Chavez's name. Brian Webb is live to continue our coverage tonight. Brian.

CHAPTER 35 / 46 Discussion

Cesar Chavez Sexual Assault Allegations, New York Times

A New York Times investigation has brought forward sexual assault and rape allegations against farm labor icon Cesar Chavez. Dolores Huerta, the 95-year-old co-founder of the UFW, is among those cited in the report. As a result, several cities and organizations are canceling events and removing Chavez's name from public spaces and schools.

cesar chavez· ufw· dolores huerta· sexual assault· phoenix

1:49:08 Oh, yeah, I get now I think more people should get choked up when they speak Yes, I'll try and do it on Sunday. It may not be easy I'm gonna try and get choked up and try to be all emotional about it because I'm sure John will hate it I'm sure he would he said he missed me. He did you hear him? You heard him? He said he missed me. I heard it. You got it on tape, right? Yeah. Yeah, right next to Right next to I can't stand one more fucking jello cup. Yeah right next to that one I record it's all recorded All right, you're out in California. Let's talk of let's talk fraud, but I mean you're not in California on the west coast You're in the front on the fraud coast Do we want to talk about Chavez first getting cancelled? Oh

1:49:55 Yeah, sure, whatever. That's fine. Okay. I have no idea what's going on Chavez getting cancelled. Here we go troubling details of a New York Times investigation into sexual assault allegations against farm labor icon and Arizona native Cesar Chavez Two women have now come forward to accuse Chavez of rape and several others say he sexually abused them. Perhaps most shocking is the account from Dolores Huerta, the now 95-year-old co-founder of the UFW. And now tonight, several groups and cities are canceling events in Chavez's name. Brian Webb is live to continue our coverage tonight. Brian.

1:50:32 Hi, Christina. The Cesar Chavez name is all over the valley from schools to dog parks and this plaza in downtown Phoenix right by City Hall, not to mention several events on Cesar Chavez Day, March 31st. But that is quickly changing after interviews of more than 60 aides and relatives, union records, pictures, emails and recordings. Pictures of Cesar Chavez are already off the walls at El Portal Restaurant in South Phoenix. The owner knew, worked and revered Chavez, Mary Rose Wilcox. Very humble, very passionate about making sure that social justice got carried out for all people. Wilcox served on the Phoenix City Council and was a supervisor in Maricopa County. But before that she was an immigration activist and first met Chavez in 1971 helping organize unions for farm workers. She remembers him as humble,

1:51:23 and kind. You know, you're really torn because there's two Chavez's. There's the one Chavez who did all these good things and passed all this legislation and was a passionate man who won farm workers' rights. And now you find out there was another Chavez we didn't know. Is this the old Hugo Chavez? The old old dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cesar. He died. But how old are these women?

1:52:05 In their 80s and 90s. Oh, okay. They don't sound like it. They don't sound that old. Well, I mean, a little late to speak up. So so they're tearing down history. This is absolutely tearing down history. I know I met Cesar in Here we go. Of course I did. We are going into the story. Is this gonna be one where your mom said we're not going to Cuba? Is that is that how this ends? No, no, Cesar was from Arizona. No, he was okay. I mean I It was my boyfriend at the time's father worked for the co-op stores and he was a big on the civil rights movement and Caesar, he was helping Caesar. So this is a prime example of tearing down history for a reason. Yes. So I start looking around to try to figure out why and it becomes very obvious when you listen to some of his old speeches.

CHAPTER 36 / 46 Discussion

Cesar Chavez, Illegal Immigration, Bracero Program

Archival interviews from 1972 and 1974 reveal Cesar Chavez's strong opposition to illegal immigration, which he viewed as a tool for strike-breaking. Chavez used derogatory terms like "wetbacks" to describe undocumented workers and accused the Department of Justice of leaving checkpoints unmanned. The hosts suggest the recent sexual assault allegations are being used to erase Chavez from history because his views on immigration conflict with modern political narratives.

cesar chavez· wetbacks· illegal immigration· bracero program· labor unions

1:53:00 because... Oh yeah, he hated illegal immigration. He, yeah, so I have a 1972 interview and a 1974 interview. All right, 72. We've gotten very few and then all of a sudden yesterday morning they're bringing 220 wetbacks. These are the illegals from Mexico. Now there's no way to defend against that kind of strike breaking and so therefore the only way to win strikes is by then taking our fight to the to the citizens. to the people in the city especially and have them help us boycott those products that were striking and we need that. And that's the only way we've been able to get contracts. And I venture to say that without that, we couldn't possibly organize unions. So what would happen was they would, at the time the grapes were a big thing, boycott grapes. But the workers had stopped working.

1:53:52 in an attempt to force the owners and everybody in the area to give them decent wages. So the next interview actually tells really what happened. It's a great interview. This question of the illegals is very interesting. Would you say that it's at this particular moment as important as any of the other problems facing the Union? Oh yes, in the last three weeks it's become, in the last two weeks it has become an emergency for us. There's an awful lot of illegals coming in. By the hundreds, by the thousands, our people are not only in some of the crews where there is now strike breaking, some of the crews are 100% illegals. Outright, openly, with no attempt to disguise it,

1:54:39 And so it's so bad now that we estimate 60 to 70 percent of the farm workers in California are the resident worker, are the citizen, is out of a job because of the wetbacks. They're coming in by the thousands, just unbelievable. See, they're coming in with the consent of the Immigration Service, which is part of the Department of Justice. How else could they come? We, for instance, know that if you go to Coachella, you go around the El Paso area, The secondary immigration checkpoints have been unmanned now for at least three, four weeks. They're closed. At night, they're dark. There aren't any patrolmen there. It's a gimmick. We think that it's a prelude at the beginning to a big drive on the part of the administration and the Mexican government to bring the Bracero program again. It's a vicious attack on the local worker, and it's just one of those

1:55:31 things that every business thinks they can get away with it and our job is to inform the whole country what's happening together with a boycott and solve it that way. Who was president then? It was Nixon and then Gerald Ford. So, the Bracero program was started after World War II to bring contract workers up from Mexico. And then they could stay for a visa, then they had to go back. And that happened all the time. Yeah. But in this case, he was for the farm workers who were

CHAPTER 37 / 46 Discussion

Martin Luther King Jr. FBI Files, Infidelity Allegations

The discussion turns to resurfaced FBI files and National Archives reports alleging serial infidelity by Martin Luther King Jr. The reports claim King had encounters with dozens of women and was present during acts of abuse. The hosts question the timing of these revelations and whether they are part of a broader trend of re-evaluating historical figures through a modern lens.

martin luther king jr· fbi· national archives· infidelity· civil rights

1:56:09 You know, here legally here illegally, right? So I think this is an attempt to completely erase his memory. It's completely erased how he began a labor movement. But when I start looking around, I think that Martin Luther King Jr. should be a little afraid. Can you play that clip? I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today. Martin Luther King Jr. remains one of the most revered figures of the 20th century. A minister, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate, and the voice of the civil rights movement, whose I Have a Dream speech continues to echo through history. Yet behind the pulpit and marches lay a private life now shadowed by controversy.

1:56:59 Recently unearthed FBI files and reports from the National Archives have resurfaced shocking allegations of King's serial infidelity. He had sexual encounters with up to 40 women and was present during acts of abuse by others. Yeah, why do you think that? Who do you think is behind this? Why are they doing this? Hello? No, I lost you Mimi. I see you're connected. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello Mimi? Oh, there you are. You back?

1:57:36 No, no, you've muted yourself now. What happened? That was odd. Hello? I see you're still connected. Yeah, you're mute. Now you've muted yourself. So click on the green microphone and unmute yourself. Hello? Podcaster down! Podcaster down! You've got to, you've got to click unmute on the green button. Yeah, are you okay? Now I'm concerned.

CHAPTER 38 / 46 Discussion

History Rewriting, Statue Removal, Cesar Chavez Day

Mimi Smith Dvorak argues that the removal of Cesar Chavez's name from schools and the cancellation of his holiday—established by Barack Obama—is a form of historical erasure. Adam Curry compares this to the removal of statues of Washington and Jefferson. They discuss how narratives are being shifted to remove "heroes" who no longer fit current ideological standards.

barack obama· cesar chavez day· historical revisionism· statues· washington

1:58:14 Because you've me I know you can hear me so you've muted yourself, but what oh, oh no she's left all right We'll set a time marker here, and we'll see what happens there. We go Connecting ah you're still muted click the green microphone button or the white microphone button there I am yeah, right back on yeah, what happens solar flares oh Okay, solar flare. So my question was, why do you think this is happening right now? I think it's happening because of the whole ICE thing. They can't have a hero who's talking about wetbacks and illegal immigrants. I think that's part of it. And I think that

1:59:05 It's just heavy-handed. It's like, are we trying to destroy the Farm Workers Union? Are we trying to... I think it's a backlash against him. You know, but it's like how, let's tear down history, let's rewrite history, because I'm seeing history being rewritten every which way. Well, hold on, but this is true history, is it not? What part? The women who are eight years old suddenly remembering that they were... Yeah, that's probably true. The Martin Luther King stuff is probably true. I mean, there's lots of evidence of that. Yeah, and let's wait till people are dead and they can't defend themselves. Well, yeah, that's what you do. You know, I find it to be a little... yeah, I know. It's just, I think it's just, it's more

1:59:56 Think it's it's falsely like we've had a lot of things up and up here where entire narratives have been changed in history and I think that you know rearranging rewriting history is Not a good thing But that you know, it plays into it plays in that, you know all the fraud Okay, well I'll just say that you know, I like it when history is when a different history emerges such as We didn't land on the moon. I like it when that emerges. I like it when those things happen. Now, this doesn't bother me that much. To me, it's not quite the same as taking down statues of Washington and Jefferson or, you know, that's a little different.

2:00:44 Do you at the street names are getting changed? They took they're taking away his day that they just Obama was the one who gave us Severs Caesar Chavez day on on March 31st. Okay, there you go that they're really naming schools and dog parks. I mean, it's it is completely erasing him from history. It's not adding a footnote. Oh, okay. All right. No, I disagree with that. I don't I don't think that's necessary. That's interesting. I've not picked up on this happening at all. You know, there are tons and tons of fraud that's going on is unbelievable to me. Yes. Tina has been keeping up to speed on that a little bit. So there was a petition fraud in California. It's ABC. All right.

2:01:29 All right, a video making its rounds on social media appears to show people getting paid $5 to sign a ballot initiative. And it has people really criticizing the signature gathering process. Take a look at this video. This was posted on X by JJ Smith, who tells us that he saw this happen in San Francisco. He says that he noticed a line of people waiting to sign what appears to be ballot initiatives at a table. One of the people in line tells him that you can receive $5 if you sign the petition. Now in the video, a woman behind the table appears to tell people what name and address to sign on that petition. Smith says the entire encounter made him question the legality of the process. They was coaching them to what name they signed, what address and what city. And right there that ring the bell in my head is like that turned on the light in my head like that's not legal. Why not sign your own name?

CHAPTER 39 / 46 Discussion

California Petition Fraud, SEIU Corruption, Billionaire Tax

Viral videos from San Francisco appear to show people being paid $5 to sign ballot initiatives for a proposed "billionaire tax." The initiative is sponsored by the SEIU-UHW, a union whose leadership has faced federal convictions for embezzlement and mail fraud. The hosts discuss the legality of the signature-gathering process and the potential for large-scale fraud in California's initiative system.

seiu· california· petition fraud· embezzlement· san francisco

2:00:44 Do you at the street names are getting changed? They took they're taking away his day that they just Obama was the one who gave us Severs Caesar Chavez day on on March 31st. Okay, there you go that they're really naming schools and dog parks. I mean, it's it is completely erasing him from history. It's not adding a footnote. Oh, okay. All right. No, I disagree with that. I don't I don't think that's necessary. That's interesting. I've not picked up on this happening at all. You know, there are tons and tons of fraud that's going on is unbelievable to me. Yes. Tina has been keeping up to speed on that a little bit. So there was a petition fraud in California. It's ABC. All right.

2:01:29 All right, a video making its rounds on social media appears to show people getting paid $5 to sign a ballot initiative. And it has people really criticizing the signature gathering process. Take a look at this video. This was posted on X by JJ Smith, who tells us that he saw this happen in San Francisco. He says that he noticed a line of people waiting to sign what appears to be ballot initiatives at a table. One of the people in line tells him that you can receive $5 if you sign the petition. Now in the video, a woman behind the table appears to tell people what name and address to sign on that petition. Smith says the entire encounter made him question the legality of the process. They was coaching them to what name they signed, what address and what city. And right there that ring the bell in my head is like that turned on the light in my head like that's not legal. Why not sign your own name?

2:02:22 Building a Better California is a policy organization who says this was one of their campaign documents that was being signed. A spokesperson with the organization says they are outraged and do not tolerate this type of fraudulent activity in the signature gathering process. Yeah, this yeah, this is one part of it. What's really the Medicare fraud is what's most unbelievable and well, fortunately They're throwing people in jail who are just pawns in the whole game. Well, let's go back Okay, the billionaires tax in California they have to come up with

2:03:00 800,000 valid signatures by June. The whole initiative is sponsored by the SEIUHW, which is a California-based union of over 100,000 healthcare workers. The group's leadership usually accuses corporations of Medicare fraud. But they've also had a lot of internal allegations of corruption, including in 2023 when the SEIU vice president was convicted in federal court of 14 counts, which included embezzlement of union funds, tax violations, and mail fraud. Which leads us right into Nick Shirley just dropped a new video. Yeah, oh you said dropped. Okay, he dropped, yes, he dropped a new video. You want to do this billionaire's tax first?

CHAPTER 40 / 46 Discussion

Nick Shirley, California Hospice Fraud, Medicare Billing

YouTuber Nick Shirley released a video exposing massive hospice and home healthcare fraud in California. He reports a 1,000% increase in hospice care in Los Angeles County, with many facilities existing only as empty offices. The fraud involves stealing Medicare beneficiary numbers to bill the government for services never provided to patients.

nick shirley· medi-cal· hospice fraud· medicare· los angeles

2:03:50 You know, I'm going to leave that for John because he'll love to go into that more because this is not going to go away. Okay. So which Nick Shirley? Nick Shirley knew on California fraud. California may have the largest amount of fraud in the country as California is the state with the highest taxes and collects more money than any other state in America. It is filled with fraud. California's version of Medicaid called Medi-Cal has more than doubled since 2022 from $108 billion to a proposed $222 billion in 2026. Their population, however, has not grown exponentially. However, their spending has.

2:04:28 There has been a thousand percent increase in hospice care in the Los Angeles County. In fact, one out of every ten dollars of home health care in America is spent in Los Angeles. On top of that, their government-funded daycare programs are filled with violations. While they continue to give money to these fraudsters, it is estimated that the fraud in California could be in the hundreds of billions of dollars. Yeah. Good reason to tax billionaires. So Nick went to an old motel that has been converted into office spaces. There were 80 some hospices in this one place. Some were empty, you know, just like the whole thing with child care in Minnesota. Lots of expensive cars in the parking lot. So then later in his video, he does outline how this works. And that's the Nick Shirley outlines.

2:05:18 The way these hospices are able to enroll these people and collect money from Medicare and Medi-Cal here inside of California is they collect the Medicare numbers from individuals and then sign them up for hospice without them even knowing. I actually went and spoke with a professional inside of the medical industry to get her opinion on how this all works. We're seeing all these hospices pop up here. Why is hospice and home health care such a booming business right now? I think it's become a trend of fraud. Honestly, has like I heard about this about five years ago during COVID that people were building hospices and selling them. It was like a business these people made. So it's an easy, I think easy way to build Medicare with their people's beneficiary numbers that people can easily steal.

2:06:03 and even purchase and buy. They buy numbers from people and tell them, give me your Medicare beneficiary number and I will give you something in return. And what does that mean, give you my beneficiary number? So there's an ID that you have, Medicare is for anybody 65 and over. So they'll give you a Medicare ID number and that number is what's used to bill Medicare. So essentially if they can get a number from somebody, it's almost like getting a credit card number and then from there they can continue to bill and bill and bill and get that Medicare money. Exactly. It's actually more beneficial than finding a credit card these days. Anybody can get a hospice license actually. You don't need to be a physician. You don't need to be a doctor. You can apply and get a hospice license in the state of California.

2:06:41 They bill, they take the Medicare numbers, they bill Medicare, the Medicare sends them a check right away. It's an easy process. And what kind of people are doing this in California? Regular old Californians? Well, so far it's been identified as being the Armenian mob and some other mobs. But what's really interesting about all this, so you know, Nick Shirley is saying, oh, I just discovered this. Except California And I actually sent it to you for the show notes. California's own fraud investigation department, their auditing department, found that the state's licensure and oversight of hospice agencies in 2019, that Los Angeles County has experienced a 1500% increase in its number of hospice agencies since 2010.

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Armenian Mob, California Audit, YouTuber Investigations

A 2019 California state audit confirmed large-scale hospice fraud, often linked to organized crime groups like the Armenian mob. Despite these findings, Governor Gavin Newsom has been criticized for failing to implement effective reforms. The hosts praise Nick Shirley's "stealth" investigative style for bringing public attention to issues that official government reports have failed to resolve.

armenian mob· gavin newsom· nick shirley· audit· hospice

2:06:03 and even purchase and buy. They buy numbers from people and tell them, give me your Medicare beneficiary number and I will give you something in return. And what does that mean, give you my beneficiary number? So there's an ID that you have, Medicare is for anybody 65 and over. So they'll give you a Medicare ID number and that number is what's used to bill Medicare. So essentially if they can get a number from somebody, it's almost like getting a credit card number and then from there they can continue to bill and bill and bill and get that Medicare money. Exactly. It's actually more beneficial than finding a credit card these days. Anybody can get a hospice license actually. You don't need to be a physician. You don't need to be a doctor. You can apply and get a hospice license in the state of California.

2:06:41 They bill, they take the Medicare numbers, they bill Medicare, the Medicare sends them a check right away. It's an easy process. And what kind of people are doing this in California? Regular old Californians? Well, so far it's been identified as being the Armenian mob and some other mobs. But what's really interesting about all this, so you know, Nick Shirley is saying, oh, I just discovered this. Except California And I actually sent it to you for the show notes. California's own fraud investigation department, their auditing department, found that the state's licensure and oversight of hospice agencies in 2019, that Los Angeles County has experienced a 1500% increase in its number of hospice agencies since 2010.

2:07:30 It had more than six and a half times the nationwide average of hospice agencies relative to its age population in 2019. They found indicators of large-scale fraud that likely include fraudulent billing to Medicare and Medi-Cal, including the apparent use of stolen identities of medical personnel to obtain licenses. So they knew that in 2019. A big report was done in 2020. But meanwhile, we have Newsom, who said 10 months ago, part one, So we're doge but better and we've been doge but better for literally six years. Doge but better. Yes, doge but better.

2:08:14 And then he asked more words salad on part two. You know, you can go back. There's amazing that we still have the tapes of our announcements around ODI and all of these reforms and efficiencies that we've been advancing for years and years and years. It's just, again, difficult to sort of break out of that, you know, the attention challenge. OK. So you've been watching Nick Shirley for a while, I believe. For two years at least. Okay. Yeah. So I was first introduced to him with the Minnesota Leering Center videos. Yep. Yep. And he had this guy next to him, Bob, you know, Bob has never introduced to us. Bob's got all the paperwork. I think it was Dave. Dave, Dave, Pete. Same thing. He's got all the information.

2:09:07 Is this the same? Because I suspect that someone saw what Nick Shirley was doing and went, this is a great way to show this fraud. Because it never works when you get... Pam Bondi standing up there in front of the press and you know, it doesn't work But this is a this is a stealth way of getting people outraged Does he have another Dave Bob or Pete with him when he's out in California? He has he during the video. He has a couple of different people. I think is just emotional support He's got his I mean some of the situations he's getting himself into and looks really scary to me. But this is all common knowledge. I mean this is like there is a there is a government report from 2019 that was published in 2020 that says oh yeah this is a huge problem. There are other podcasters, video podcasters, whatever you call them. YouTubers. YouTubers who've been putting up a

CHAPTER 42 / 46 Discussion

Donald Trump on Somali Voting Blocks, Wealth Tax Debate

Donald Trump commented on how certain immigrant groups, such as Somalis, allegedly vote in blocks to maintain "gravy trains" of government funding. Meanwhile, California's proposed wealth tax—a 5% one-time tax on billionaires—is being debated. Governor Gavin Newsom has opposed the tax, warning it could cause the state's wealthiest residents to flee to Nevada or Texas.

donald trump· somali· voting blocks· wealth tax· gavin newsom

2:10:03 information all along but couldn't get any traction because you know it's He's got the best platform wide, but why why why did this but I'm telling you that this there's someone on the inside Working with him giving him stuff helping him showing him Juicing something well well actually somebody asked I wonder I think it's probably Trump and I have a well not you we Trump personally or just the administration Trump explains the money. Oh Okay, here we go. That's what I'm talking about Because they're crooked they make money and

2:10:55 They gain power, they use it for power. Like with the Somalians, they vote in a block, 100%. They make a deal with the Somalians, they all vote because they're on a gravy train. It's money first, power second. A lot of people say power first now. It's money first. Yeah, I'm telling you, this Nick Shirley pop has Trump written all over it. Yes, absolutely it does. And I think it's great. He's got the audience, he's got the eyes, and he's such an unassuming little... Oh, he's so sweet. He's such a sweet boy. He's having a birthday next month. I know, he's finally going to be older. Oh, wow. Oh, is he going to be 12? Yeah.

2:11:41 I think 24. This is the future. It's a dynamite way to expose fraud through a YouTuber who's out there with the one camera. Actually, I think he has two. I've seen him with two shots. Sometimes two. Yeah. It's great. It's a great way to do it. And man, it is rampant. And yes, it's hundreds of billions of dollars. Maybe a trillion a year. Who knows? It's crazy. Which explains why the billionaire's tax is such a big deal to California, which if you want, you can certainly play that billionaire tax explanation because it's pretty much how much we're losing in Medicare fraud. Tax the rich to pay for health care or would it backfire? That's the debate behind a proposed wealth tax that could be on the California ballot this November. Supporters have to collect about 875,000 signatures by mid-April just to get it on the ballot.

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California Wealth Tax Mechanics, Federal Health Care Cuts

The proposed California wealth tax would target approximately 200 individuals worth over $1 billion, exempting real estate and personal property like private jets. Supporters, including Bernie Sanders, argue the revenue is needed to cover federal cuts to health care. Critics point out that 40% of California's income tax already comes from the top 1%, making the state vulnerable if they relocate.

wealth tax· silicon valley· bernie sanders· health care· budget

2:12:32 But it's already caused a ton of grief among big names in tech and finance. And they're not the only ones. Even Governor Gavin Newsom has come out against it, saying it would hurt the state's finances in the long run. It's a badly drafted effort. It's already had an outsized impact on the state. To get a full understanding, let's back up to step one. How would the tax actually work? Could it work? Well, it's a one-time tax of 5% of wealth. Individuals or couples worth more than $1 billion as of the end of this year would have to pay it. That's about 200 people in the entire state. If you're a billionaire and you live here, you'd be subject to the proposed tax. It covers stocks, cash, businesses, just about everything. What it doesn't cover is real estate, and you could exempt up to $5 million of personal property like art or a private jet.

2:13:25 90% of the tax would help cover federal cuts to health care. The other 10% would help fund education and food assistance. Unsurprisingly, a lot of people in the tech industry do not like this one bit. One of their biggest claims is that it would cause the wealthy to move to Nevada or Texas or Florida. Here's the problem if that happens. According to state data, more than 40% of California's income tax comes from the top 1% of income earners. So, if lots of the state's rich residents did leave, California's bank account would get smaller. Would they actually leave? It's hard to say. There's some research that indicates that rich people actually rarely move in response to new taxes, and that's because they tend to depend pretty heavily on social and professional ties to, say, Silicon Valley. But also, we've never had a wealth tax like this before. Most of the European countries that have tried it eventually got rid of it.

2:14:21 I gotta show you how to use Adobe to remove that horrible music. I know, I'm sorry. No, no, it's okay. It's just like, oh. Interesting. I think they would move. I think that... I do too. I mean, they're already... But oddly enough, we only need this tax because of so much fraud. The money is just flowing out. Yes. Next time someone complains about the $3.8 billion we give to Israel that they spend on our war stuff, remind them of this. Yeah, in every state. Every state this exists. That's the problem, or every blue state. What is the total Medicare, I mean, how much, what does the federal government pay annually in, let me see, let me ask the robot, what is the annual...

2:15:10 federal expenditure, I'm gonna use some big words, expenditure for health care from the, okay, for health care, boom. All right, let's see. All right, robot. I put it in thinking mode so it'll take a second. I think real hard. I like who's pushing this tax the most is Bernie Sanders. Oh my God, he's everywhere. Well, of course, but here it is. Oh man, the most recent completed fiscal year, 2025, the US federal government spent approximately, how much do you think? Trillions. 2.03 trillion dollars. That's more than a quarter of the total budget. Now that can't all be fraud. No.

CHAPTER 44 / 46 Discussion

ISO Segment, Asmongold, Tucker Carlson Clips

Mimi brings nine audio clips (ISOs) for the production segment, though Adam finds many of them too long for standard use. They play clips featuring Asmongold and Tucker Carlson, debating which ones are suitable for future show production. The segment highlights the collaborative effort in selecting the "sound" of the podcast.

iso· asmongold· tucker carlson· audio clips· production

2:31:43 If you go to one of these, I guarantee you will come back for more. You will meet people there that give you protection because connection is protection. They are your first responders in an emergency. Go to noagendameetups.com, find one near you. If you can't find one, start one yourself. There's no charge, no licensing, no ID check. Just put it together, have a good time with No Agenda. Always a party. All right now Mimi you came with nine ISOs nine. Uh-huh. I'm an overachiever Yes, you are and I'm just gonna play mine. I have actually have what do I have? I have four of them I thought it was loaded for bear. So I'll play mine first and then we'll go through yours. Here we go Well, I guess that's it. That's your boy. You recognize him. Uh-huh. Yeah, who is it?

2:32:53 It sounds like Tucker. No, no, listen again. No, who is it? Listen again, listen again, you'll get it. Well, I guess that's it. You're in love with him. Asmongold. Oh, it doesn't sound like him. That's funny. All right, next one. I am in love with him. Yes, I know you are. Here's the next one. Okay, bye. This is a classic. That's important information you might want to write down folks, okay? Okay, and then this is just a bit. I this is my favorite. We're pounding it like really pounding it hard mm-hmm Kind of like that one all right so now Mimi with your I can't I don't even have enough players on my system to load them all up all right which one do we go we go in order I

2:33:40 Yes, let's go in order. Okay, number one ride. I can give you a ride if you need a ride. Okay, number two. I was not prepared for whatever that was. Oh, that's kind of cool. It's a little muddled. Not that you can help that. Okay, number three. You can go. You don't have to. You can hang around. Still great, but you can go. Yeah, it's too long. It's too long. Okay, four. Show is over. Show is over. That's cute. This next one's too long too. These are too long, but I'll play them. Yeah, rent was due last year. That app ain't working hogwash. You said that last go around and the one before that. It ain't charity, it's biz. No, unacceptable. Unacceptably long. I know, but it's cute. Gotta get going. I miss you already. Stop. Oh, that's cute. I like that one. Let's see. There's another one that's way too long, Mimi. Give me more nuts to hold.

2:34:39 What is that? No, no, you don't understand ISOs. I know, but I thought it was funny. Number eight. What? And that you know who that is. That's Tucker. That's talking. Yeah, and this is a longer one I kind of like let me see was this one. No, no, that's not I Thought like this one's kind of what I like how to get going. I miss you already Stop kind of like that one You get to choose. Oh, you know what? I I I

CHAPTER 45 / 46 Discussion

Tip of the Day, My Pet Peed, Dog Incontinence

Mimi Smith Dvorak provides the "Tip of the Day," recommending a cleaning product called "My Pet Peed" for managing pet stains and odors. She explains that she has four elderly dogs, including a 16-year-old basset hound, and uses the hydrogen peroxide-based formula to maintain her hardwood floors. The product is described as fragrance-free and effective on various surfaces.

my pet peed· hydrogen peroxide· dog care· cleaning· basset hound

2:35:18 I'm fine. You choose whatever you want. Number six it is everybody and before we go of course it is time for the tip of the day with the one and only Meme. Well hopefully this isn't one that John's already done because I'm always raving about this product but I think he doesn't like it because of the name. I have four elderly dogs. So my biggest hobby in life is picking is cleaning up dog pee. What is it? What is elderly? How old is elderly? I have a basset hound who is 16 years old, which is twice the age of a normal basset. That's up there for sure. And I've got two 12 year olds and an 11 year old mastiff. So they're all quite old.

2:36:09 Oh, okay. Yeah, they're all really old. Are they all incontinent? Is that what you're telling me? They all pee every... Really? Absolutely. You sure they're just not trained properly? It's just... No, no, this is... Dogs don't pee when they're walking. Okay. So... Yeah, my, my animals are getting much too old and diapers are, I'd be changing diapers all day. So I just clean the floor constantly. So this product is called My Pet Peed. No, this has not been featured on the show. I guarantee you. Yeah, I know. My Pet Peed. The last word is P E E D.

2:36:47 It removes pet stains and odors like it's magic. It's safe around kids, around pets, around plants. It gets the smell out. It's fragrance-free. It does not rely on enzymes. What's it made of, this magic formula? It's some strange type of hydrogen peroxide. So it may take the color out of some natural fiber carpets, but for the most part, I don't care. I want the smell out more than I don't care about color anymore. Your dogs are peeing on your carpet? No, I've got washable carpets everywhere and rugs everywhere. I have all hardwood floors or all now I know why John doesn't want to move up there. It's obvious is a pea house Someday, I'm gonna Someday, I'm gonna fall I'm gonna die cuz I'm gonna fall on on pet pee and and I'll just be in the puddle and you know, yeah

2:37:38 Okay, nice visual. Thank you. We got it. We got it. You use it straight. You use it sparingly. It's expensive for a 32 ounce spray. It's $34.95. The best deal on Amazon is a two pack, which is $49.95. I buy it by the gallon, 128 fluid ounces or Florida ounces. And that's like $79, $80. It works so well though. It lasts a while. It really does get the smell out. It gets stains out of carpets, you know, if they're color fast. I use it

2:38:21 Constantly and I I I don't think I would be able to stand the smell of my house if I didn't use this stuff And I've tried everything on the market. Hmm. Can you also everything if you kill someone they bleed out? Does it get rid of that? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay, you do a good job. Yeah, or if or if you have, you know a pukey family Or if you or for a good cleaning product if you have like a really grimy place that you've forgotten to clean for years You spray some of that on and you leave it for a couple hours Then you wipe it up and it is beautiful. So give us the name again of this fabulous product my pet peed my pet pee there it is everybody a spooktacular tip of the day from Mimi

CHAPTER 46 / 46 Discussion

Show Outro, Benjamin Netanyahu Critique, Michael Flynn

The episode concludes with a montage of clips criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu's handling of Hamas and the Gaza conflict. General Michael Flynn and other commentators question whether Netanyahu allowed the October 7th attacks to happen to maintain power. Adam Curry thanks Mimi for her help over the past two weeks as the show prepares for John C. Dvorak's return.

benjamin netanyahu· michael flynn· hamas· gaza· holocaust

2:39:05 Creative vies for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti. Well, there you go. Mimi, it has been a pleasure working with you. It's been lovely, but it's way too much work for me. I have... No one's seen me in two weeks. I'm like, I have to work! And I'm still not good at it, but I'm starting to get the hang of it. So next time John needs to fill in, I guess I could do it. I really appreciate it. You've, you, it is above and beyond and it's just been so great to get to know you a little bit better after all these years. And the next time we talk it'll be some crap about me getting you information for taxes, so we gotta do that too.

2:39:51 Don't remind me. I'm so behind. Tina's like, we're filing late, aren't we? Probably. No, we've already filed late. It's fine. We've filed extensions for the business anyway. Thank you very much, No Agenda Nation for being with us. Coming up next on the No Agenda Stream, we have DH Unplugged. This will be with Horowitz and the Young I'm concerned about Benjamin Netanyahu.

2:40:43 that he knew where Hamas was getting its money in 2018, he refused to cut it off. I'm concerned that he continued to prop Hamas up. I'm concerned that Benjamin Netanyahu, had Hamas' terrorist plans a year before the terrorist attacks and they did nothing. After the attacks, did nothing for six, seven, eight, ten hours. They were ill-prepared. I've never seen anything like it. We're really going to tie Israel's future up to this man and say if those of us who love Israel, those of us who were taught in Sunday school when we were five years old that Jews are God's chosen people because six million were slaughtered in the Holocaust.

2:41:42 Are we not allowed to question Benjamin Netanyahu's motives? Because if not, that's pretty sick and it's not in Israel's best interest. Because all countries need allies. Here is a group of people who we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the US policy that we want. And Israel is an ally, it's a fighting ally that pulls its weight. America's landed aircraft carrier. We're the junior partner.

2:42:20 We have fought now a seven front war, we have an eighth front. The infosphere is the eighth front and seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle. He told these people I think they're going to kill me. Who is they? Charlie writes in this group chat just lost another huge Jewish donor. Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians and those people fall into three categories. Some of them identify with Hamas, some of them are intimidated, and the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas. The AP, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean?

2:43:04 of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas. And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information. General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu and the Israeli military leadership for clearly standing down. But the point is, and so these governments all need a boogeyman. I'm your boogeyman. Somebody had had a bunch of the troops stand down. I mean, this is 9-11 all over again. I'm your boogeyman. Breakthrough, overrun, go in. Israel supports Hamas. There's a lot of back-channel wink-wink going on here. Suitcases full of cash. It is true. I'm your boogeyman. And so these governments all need a boogeyman.

2:43:49 No, I don't support Hamas. You are 100% right. We don't support Hamas. I'm your boogeyman. I looked it up. Israeli intelligence created Hamas. General Michael Flynn calls out Netanyahu. Let's be clear. There's no way. I'm your boogeyman. Israel supports Hamas. It is true. I looked it up. No, I don't support Hamas. I'm your boogeyman. I mean, this is 9-11 all over again. But the point is, I'm your boogeyman. Suitcase is full of cash. There's a lot of back channel wink wink going on here. I looked it up. And so these governments all need a boogeyman. Break through, overrun, go in. The best podcast in the universe. I am mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Gotta get going. I miss you already. Stop.