Episode 1846 · Thursday, 26 February 2026

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Federal agents descend on Los Angeles schools as international tensions peak with a military deadline for Iran and a domestic crackdown on institutional fraud.

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The FBI executed search warrants at the home and office of Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent Alberto Carvalho as part of a widening fraud investigation into the AI chatbot company AllHere. The probe follows the arrest of founder Joanna Smith-Griffin and the collapse of the district’s Ed chatbot, a tool originally championed by Carvalho to address student absenteeism. Meanwhile, the Trump administration has issued a 15-day ultimatum to Iran to negotiate a new nuclear deal or face military strikes, punctuated by the deployment of F-22 fighters to Israel and the USS Gerald R. Ford to the Mediterranean.

Domestic tensions escalated following the State of the Union, where Donald Trump proposed the Delilah Law to restrict commercial licenses for illegal immigrants after a fatal crash involving a five-year-old girl. In the corporate sector, Susan Rice warned executives to prepare for subpoenas under a Democratic accountability agenda, while IBM shares tumbled 13% as Anthropic and OpenAI models demonstrated the ability to replace legacy COBOL programmers. Vice President JD Vance also announced a freeze on Minnesota Medicaid payments, citing systemic fraud within Minneapolis-based autism service providers. Further investigations into the Jeffrey Epstein files reveal that over 90 witness interviews are missing from public records, including testimony regarding a 2016 lawsuit filed by Katie Johnson.

Technical glitches nearly derailed the broadcast until producer Darren O secured the archive, leading to a discussion on the value-for-value model and the surrealist Slave Slab artwork by Rocket Boy. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak knighted new producers including Sir Robert of Penfield, who shared stories of IBM 360 punch cards. The show closed with a practical tip on using silver Sharpies to label dark power bricks and a parody song featuring AI-generated vocals of prominent political figures.


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CHAPTER 01 / 32 Discussion

Epstein Case Skepticism, Media Narratives and Listener Feedback

The show addresses intense listener criticism regarding their skeptical stance on the Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy cases. Feedback from a former high-end sex worker suggests the Epstein narrative has become a vehicle for anti-Semitic tropes and "Salem witch trial" hysteria. The discussion contrasts these views with the reporting of Whitney Webb and her public dispute with Glenn Greenwald.

jeffrey epstein· jamie white· whitney webb· glenn greenwald· p. diddy· anti-semitism

00:00 Hey, today's Redhead Day! Until proven innocent and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we demand accountability! I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah you did it man you did it now... You did it now

00:41 But... You did it! Your entire Hoar Island thesis has thrown the show into a tailspin. Did you not receive any emails at all? Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, I got uh let's see i'm just looking from my Twitter timeline today something simply isn't right about this show what the hell is happening here's another one It's truly sad. The show used to be a one-of-a kind breakdown of the news cycle and just enough crackpot to keep it interesting and open I personally believe that after journalist Jamie White was murdered, it was a cue to stop talking about certain subjects! This show sucks now! I did not get that one Oh this is public this is just on my timeline oh yeah? Oh its somebody bitching okay... I mean it's nonstop

01:35 It's all, I can't even go to Twitter anymore. People just hate me! Well they should hate you for letting me talk like this. Yes, they hate me for something... Here is my favorite. What kind of Christian are you? There's a mountain of evidence in the P. Diddy and Epstein cases showing their deep involvement in satanic cults and sex magic rituals, yet for some reason... You keep trying to sell us on the idea they were merely rich guys having orgies! It really makes me question who you really pray too

02:13 Why have you laughed at it like our government is not full of satanic creeps? Surely, you know the truth. So stuff like this and then... It's running away into podcasts! This is the coffee and a mic podcast. To separate whether I can talk to somebody and judge whether they know what's going on or even if their like controlled opposition is, does Israel control the United States or does the United States control Israel? Because if you tell me the United States controls it controls Israel one either think your ignorant or two I think you're working for them. One of the biggest podcasts in the world there's no agenda

02:57 And after what I've heard on that show over the last year, I mean- Year. I'm trying to get people to run away from that Adam Curry and John C Dvorak. Just this past Saturday a Sunday's episode they were completely excusing they're saying there were no underage girls with Epstein or their Epstein mentions it in the freaking day that I provide children I prefer Michael Tracy. Michael Tracy has been out there denying the undeniable and people are like you know... Why do they think that works? I'm baffled by that because it seems to me that conceding something would give you enhanced credibility, right? And there it is!

03:46 Conceding into audience capture. Exactly! Wouldn't it make sense that if we really were going for the gold, that we just say oh yeah this is what you believe when we clearly believe other things and we've been controversial throughout almost... It's hardly controversial. Oh, it's extremely controversial! Oh to maniacs and lunatics. No you have no idea! This guy with his oh you know I don't understand how it's even possible that anyone doesn't believe that

04:27 that Israel controls the United States because hell, you know there's a small little country in the middle of nowhere and they're telling us what to do. Won't they tell us to give them even more money? I don't see him doing- us doing that We're the biggest we have a 1 trillion dollar defense budget were the biggest market in the world and they are telling us what to do And that makes sense to you? I think that well... Of course not But that's the point. There is... No, not you I'm talking to! The you out there. There is a complete lack of critical thinking and it comes from this beautiful confluence of years of QAnon babies being shipped in Wayfair containers remember that one? Everybody was all-in on that one why could it cost $13,000 hmm into

05:20 Epstein, who everybody was convinced that he was blackmailing people. Convinced! You know throw in a little bit of Whitney Webb and by the way she's having a big fight with Glenn Greenwald if you saw that. Glenn Greenwald is like no you wrote stuff about me in 2013 there was utter bullcrap so I can't trust you anymore whatever your right this just it's like we've gone into conspiracy overdrive And when the two sanest voices is Adam and John, you gotta stop for a second. Think hmmm... I wonder why those guys are saying what they actually think? And not what everybody wants them to say

06:02 So let's clarify at least one thing. We never said that there are no underage girls involved, in fact if you look at anything having to do with prostitution whatsoever, you find that it is dominated by underage girls and there is report after report which I actually did a printout of The United Nations and other groups have done this, that the average typical underage girl involved in prostitution is a runaway. There's all kinds of issues with them and they're 15 but average 15 so that this is not what we were talking about let me read you this note from one of our listeners one of our producers Chester

06:43 Hey John, I appreciated your take on Epstein. I was at a dinner a few weeks ago with several people including a former high-end sex worker who explained her opinion on Jeffrey E and the island which was pretty much the same as yours! Nobody at the table seemed to scandalize but they weren't agreeing either...I think i said something noncommittal like uh maybe But the conversation stuck in my head, so I was receptive when I heard your rundown. In other words he heard her first and then me. Oh okay interesting So he made an audio clip of you expounding on the matter and sent it to her in an email And she responded quote

07:31 So we have a...we have our uh, she should be listening to the show. Yeah I hope so! Send a pic! I am glad someone is speaking up about the E-matter in a sane fashion. I think the Epstein spectacle is quite anti-semitic Oh hey now Turning one lone individual into a central figure in the conspiracy that involves money and finance. Forcing every person who knows him to explain how he came to be tainted by this scapegoat who just happened to be Jewish! Give me a break, it's obvious!" And then she says it's an unhealthy blend of anti-semitic paranoia

08:17 Salem witch trial methods, sex phobia plus women of a certain age hating the existence of younger women in men's lives. Just perfect! Some of those mean-spirited women claiming to be concerned about vulnerable younger ladies are older sex workers." End of quote. Yeah So no, I'm the more. I thought about what you say Yeah first of all yeah The Epstein files are filled with all kinds of crazy stuff Anybody's email if they ever get a hold of my email the stuff? I haven't nuked on my own server people send me the craziest stuff You know you look at that like oh what's going on here? Oh

CHAPTER 02 / 32 Discussion

Trump and Epstein FBI Files, Missing Witness Interviews

CNN and other outlets report that over 90 FBI witness interviews are missing from the publicly released Jeffrey Epstein files, including three related to a woman alleging abuse by Donald Trump at age 13. Trump has dismissed these allegations as a "Democrat hoax" and a strategic political attack. Lawmakers continue to demand the release of the full 325 witness interviews cataloged in the Ghislaine Maxwell case.

donald trump· jeffrey epstein· fbi· justice department· glenn maxwell· anderson cooper

09:04 Do I think Epstein was creepy? Absolutely. Oh yeah, sure he was! You could take a look at him and he's creepy. He gave people the creeps And there are lots of people like that In fact The Department of Justice and Sheriff's Office around the country continuously round up people like that gets almost no mention because you know it's not Trump or its not billionaires etc so And this, I have to agree with the president. This is a he's calls it a Democrat hoax It's a Democrat strategy and they're using it quite effectively So there is one case now that everybody's honing in on about this 13 year old

09:46 And Anderson Cooper leads the charge and then we'll talk about this and what the facts of the case are, not just what people are saying. We begin tonight keeping them honest with a name that was not spoken last night stated The Union Message Jeffrey Epstein That, and the name that we learned today has turned up in FBI records missing from the Epstein files Donald Trump. We know this because a numbered evidence log in the Glenn Maxwell case catalogues about 325 FBI witness interviews But of that number, more than 90 do not appear to be present on the Justice Department's website. And three of those witness interviews are related to a woman who told agents that Jeffrey Epstein had repeatedly abused her starting when she was approximately 13 years old She also accused Trump of sexually assaulting her

10:34 Now we should point out here that the president has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection with Jeffrey Epstein and the White House is calling the allegations quote false and sensationalist. We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats do I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein you just keep going on The Epstein Files And what The Epstein is a Democrat hoax! The President as you know has been treating the files of the ultimate not guilty verdict I have nothing to hide, I've been exonerated. I've been totally exonerated on Epstein. Well, you know i'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exaggerated but I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. Well keepin' them honest that might be easier to say if the public had access to everything the federal government has on Epstein Maxwell and many powerful people they moved among then citizen Trump included who again says he did nothing wrong so now you gotta add one more thing to the Epstein conspiracy that involves all the billionaires the elites and everybody

11:35 That of course is not with high-end escorts. No, no no it's all children and it's eating babies and the biggest offender of this And you almost I almost have to think She was doing it on purpose is our AG Barbie. These latest allegations first arose in July of 2019 just days after Epstein's arrest on federal charges a woman called an FBI tip line agents interviewed her two weeks later during which she told them Epstein had repeatedly abused her at home he was staying out in South Carolina The abuse started, she said when she was about 13 years old. Now according to the FBI interview record a form known as 302 when she showed agents of photo Trump and Epstein that her friend had sent her. Her attorney said that she was quote concerned about implicating additional individuals and specifically any that were well-known due to fear retaliation

12:28 The Maxwell evidence log notes three additional 302 forms dated in August and October 2019 related to the same alleged victim as well as three other sets of interview notes. Now none of those appear to be present in the files released by the DOJ Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have now said that release files which took an act of Congress to get released are not all there is, And it's been more than a year since the Attorney General said this on Fox News Here we go Tomorrow, Jesse breaking news right now you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office. It's sitting on my desk right now to review a truckload of evidence arrived it's now in the possession of the FBI and it's a new day it's a new administration and everything is going to come out to the public

13:19 So that, of course was the dumbest thing she could have ever done. Either she's a complete idiot or she is working for the Democrats as far as I'm concerned because at least should've known she had nothing and all this stuff she put in the binders was known for a long time A final clip here about the DOJ. Reading now from the Justice Department statement on them, several individuals and news outlets have recently flagged files related to documents produced to Ghislaine Maxwell in discovery of her criminal case that they claim appeared to be missing.

14:08 As with all documents that have been flagged by the public, the department is currently reviewing files within that category of the production. Should any document be found to have been improperly tagged in the review process and is responsive to the act, The Department will of course publish it consistent with the law." So they continue to bumble along putting things out pulling them back putting them back in pulling him out and the Democrats are loving this! As the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to dog the Trump administration Democratic lawmakers say that the US government is withholding evidence that could implicate the president in criminal activity. These are the files that the FBI has removed from their public

14:48 dozens of FBI witness interviews appear to be missing from public records, according to US media reports. And numerous alleged victims say they cannot find their testimonies in the 3 million new documents released by the Department of Justice at the end of January. At the State of the Union on Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers wore pins demanding the release of the missing files and brought a dozen Epstein accusers as their guests. Where are the rest of the files? The truth must come out!

15:35 Why are there no investigations when there are plenty of people in these files to investigate? Since the files have been made public, there have been high profile arrests and investigations around the world into those named in the documents. But no such investigation has been opened in the United States. The White House has dismissed claims of Trump's involvement with Epstein's criminal sex ring as false and sensationalist. And the president did not mention the late sex offender in his speech. In response to the allegations, the Department of Justice denied any wrongdoing saying that any missing documents were either duplicates or part of an ongoing federal investigation. All right so let's talk about the 13 year old for a second because what we're missing here

CHAPTER 03 / 32 Discussion

Katie Johnson Lawsuit, 2016 Rape Allegations Analysis

A review of the 2016 lawsuit filed by "Katie Johnson" against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein reveals a history of voluntary dismissals and lack of physical evidence. The suit, which alleged a 1994 assault in Manhattan, was promoted by attorney Lisa Bloom and producer Norm Lebeau before being withdrawn days before the 2016 election. The narrative is characterized as a recurring political strategy similar to the Russia hoax.

katie johnson· lisa bloom· norm lebeau· jane doe· rape allegations· 2016 election

16:18 is these so-called victims and how old they were and what they are a victim of. And let's also mention the fact that we're dealing with the use of language which Democrats are quite good or the left in general is good at, and changing a customer of a prostitute to an abu-, changing the name of a John to an abuser, and changing the name of a sex worker to a victim? Yes Let's talk about... So when they say victim, victim, victim of these. Now the question that never seems to be brought up does anyone ever ask any of the women who are or that have been

16:59 Kind of sequestered to complain about this a lot. Have you paid any money? For this process of abuse and how old were you and how old were you at the time, and we paid any money I Honestly don't want to sound callous But I almost believe that these women found out what was being charged by the system, by what I call a whorehouse and what they were getting. And they felt gypped! Well, the timing of them coming out is always interesting but i want to go to 13-year old because this is not a case that is unknown to us or even to the show often referred to as the Katie Johnson lawsuit or Jane Doe it was for a long time which filed in 2016

17:50 alleging incidents that took place in the summer of 1994 at Epstein's Manhattan pad. The victim, a 13-year old girl using the pseudonym Jane Doe slash Katie Johnson claimed she was recruited under the guise of a modeling career She alleged she was sexually abused by both Epstin and Trump on multiple occasions Most notably she claimed that during her fourth encounter Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded for him to stop And this lawsuit included a sworn statement from a Tiffany Doe, so a pseudonym who claimed to be a party planner for Epstein and said she had personally witnessed the abuse. And the plaintiff said that Trump had threatened to have her and her family killed if she ever spoke out

18:40 Citing a 12 year old girl named Maria who had supposedly disappeared after similar instances. So, this suit was first filed in California in 2016 dismissed by a California judge refiled in 2016 in New York October 2016, there was a press conference scheduled. I remember this by then attorney Lisa Bloom. Remember the Lisa Bloom? The famous... Yes, the famous Lisa Bloom. This is when the plaintiff was going public but the press conference was canceled very last minute she stated her client was living in fear due to death threats then November 4th days before the presidential election the lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiffs legal team

19:26 without any public explanation. So, there was no evidence the lawsuit was withdrawn but here's that here is the fun part Norm Lebeau does that name ring any bells for you? No He was a TV producer crack-smoking TV producer who did sensationalist stories about celebrities he worked for the Jerry Springer show he's the guy that started all of this He's the one that started publishing articles. He is behind a lot of these things, you know? That Kurt Cobain was killed by his wife and this kind of stuff So a lawsuit that was put in withdrawn right before the elections The whole thing is very very flimsy at best so You know okay

20:24 Show me something. Show me something that's real, not some email that says I got a torture video Well we already discussed that Have you looked at Pornhub? So yes Jeffrey Epstein was a creep In my personal opinion any older guy who wants to have sex with 16 17 18 year old Probably legal in the states they were doing it or on an island You know they got a lot of problems But if it was for money, well there's other discussions that need to be had. But the whole thing is being manipulated and turned into a strategy for the Democrat Party. Yeah it's a total... this is the Russian hoax of the second administration. The Russian hoax is over they can't talk about it anymore. There are still lingering effects of it people still believe it

CHAPTER 04 / 32 Discussion

Susan Rice Accountability Agenda, Corporate Subpoenas Warning

Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice outlined a Democratic "accountability agenda" during a podcast interview with Preet Bharara. Rice warned corporations to preserve documents and prepare for subpoenas should Democrats retake the House and Senate. She criticized the private sector and university heads for failing to resist the Trump administration's policies and Project 2025.

susan rice· preet bharara· project 2025· democrat party· accountability· billionaires

21:24 and this is the new one, and this came up. This is Trump screws little kids, he's a rapist. But I think it's going even further and its really interesting And I see people all over the political spectrum falling for this. I think many of our own listeners or maybe former listeners Well obviously some of our own listeners fall for it Yes, yes...and the idea here is all billionaires Anybody who has power, is a billionaire, is successful. They're all in cahoots with Trump And they're gonna get, seriously and you need to... These people are the problem. They're the Silicon Valley guys if you're Silicon Valley and your Jewish You got two strikes against you Zuckerberg Teal all these guys If they're all in cahoots with Trump and Trump is protecting them and this was completely laid out by none other than the twerp Condoleezza Rice

22:28 Well, she's not the twerp. Susan Rice is the twerp! Oh I'm sorry... well she's a twerp too! Condoleezza Rice who wrote herself an email to be able to say later y'all know all that No no that's not Condoleezza Rice Was that Susan Rice? That's Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice is the old... She worked in the Bush administration. She teaches at Stanford. Well she's a problem What did she do? Listen to what she said on this podcast with Preet Bharara. And she's teeing it up, she's teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse? Well I expected it to be very bad. Susan Rice not Condoleezza Rice Isn't this Condy? This is Condoleezza Rice

23:24 No, this is Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice isn't even in the story I thought this was... It's a rice lady! This is the twerp This IS the twerp- I knew it! Oh, just had the name wrong. Is this Susan Rice then? Are you sure its not Condoleeza Rice?! Condoleeza Rice is a tall woman with a big square head Well she's sitting down in the interview Who talks like a patrician I'm pretty sure this is Condoleeza Rice Yes, I clipped it myself. Did you visually see the person? Yes! Well she was sitting down so i couldn't tell if she was tiny or not. Continue... This is Condoleezza Rice No its not Condoleezza Rice and I hate the fact that I have to contradict John this because Condoleezza Rice is not involved in any of this and it's ruining your point

24:24 I don't... well let me go look at my history. I'm 99% certain this is Condoleezza Rice talking and she may ruin, she may ruin my uh here she is this is Susan Rice you're right okay thank you for catching that thank you for saving me it's Susan Rice so my point valid again now Well, the problem is that you know you when you misstep when you're making a good argument. A good argument and then I ruin it by... And then you miss step by bringing in somebody who's got nothing to do with anything because of a mistake in last the names being similar. Yes. Didn't even think about that. Here's what we'll do here's what will cut all that out of this show. You're not cutting out! No one will ever know. Susan Rice who I had this clip in the last show she has

25:16 Well, I have four clips because it was super interesting all the things she actually said. I was like holy moly! She's part of the scheme And she is the one that wrote the email correct? To herself? Yeah, she's the one who wrote the cover your ass email at the end of her term. Yes exactly. That was Susan Rice. Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice was out of business 10 years earlier. Condoleezza Rice is dead to me! Okay?! She's dead to me and doesn't exist. Susan Rice... Susan Rice teeing it up for the Democrat Party!! Has the first year approximated what you expected? Uh has it been less bad than you expected or worse?

25:55 Well, I expected it to be very bad. And I guess I would confess that it's probably worse than I anticipated but not because they're doing things that surprised me They told us exactly what they were going to do You know we recall Trump saying multiple times on the campaign trail if you vote for me this one time you'll never have to vote again or his pledge to use the American military against the quote, enemy within. You had Stephen Miller foreshadowing not only the use of the Insurrection Act but potentially the suspension of habeas corpus and the imposition of martial law. All of these are they tell you interestingly where they intend ahead but what surprised me is the speed and

26:47 the efficacy of their efforts to do what they set out to do and the fact that they have faced very little resistance from members of their own party, from the private sector, from civil society leaders and university heads and law firms. And all of the pillars of society media that have rolled over and played dead or hidden under rocks. Yeah, I love this so she sets it up by saying project 2025 we all knew it they've held to it entirely completely to it and they're gonna get theirs Do you think that after a year of this? No wait is like misclipped this somehow probably whether your university whether your

27:36 Sorry about that. Play a long game, not this short game that has been so detrimental So very specifically if the House changes hands in a few months what should be the top priority or two in terms of that accountability you're speaking for Democratic leadership in the house? Well first of all when the Democrats win the House, which I believe they will and possibly the Senate. They need to appropriately focus on the needs of the American people which Donald Trump and the Republicans could give a damn about whether it's health care costs, housing costs food prices electricity prices runaway tech companies that are lining their own pockets at the expense of our children our jobs

28:29 maybe even our very existential future. There's a lot of stuff that we need to do in service of the American people, but in addition to that there will be an accountability agenda. Companies already are starting to hear they better preserve their documents They better be ready for subpoenas if they've done something wrong they'll be held accountable. And if they haven't broken the law, good for them! If they've done the right things, good for them that also will be noted and remembered but you know this is not going to be an instance of forgive-and-forget The damage that these people are doing is too severe to the American people into our national interest

29:20 She's threatening everybody, but she is really confirming to the Democrat Party and the people who vote Democrat. But also to anybody who is whipped up into this Epstein thing you've gotta hate these people! You've gotta hate billionaires, you've gotta hate tech companies which is so inherently un-American I grew up like hey see that guy with a Rolls Royce? Hey you could be that guy this is America But now everybody who's successful, everybody who is doing anything with Trump anybody whose been helping him out we're gonna get you. We're going to get you and everybody will hate you

CHAPTER 07 / 32 Discussion

DC Water Sewage Spill, David Gaddis DEI Controversy

A massive sewage spill in the Potomac River is linked to management priorities at DC Water under CEO David Gaddis. Critics, including radio host Wendy Bell, allege that $520 million was diverted to DEI contracts and disadvantaged business grants rather than infrastructure maintenance. While NPR attributes the failure to aging pipes and corrosion, local reports highlight the suspension of several no-bid awards by the EPA.

dc water· david gaddis· potomac river· dei· epa· sewage spill

35:42 NPR did a thing on it. The utility has said it found signs of corrosion during an inspection about a decade ago. McGuire says the section that broke was slated for repair. So hopefully this is a little bit of a kick in the pants for everyone because she says the risks around the country are growing we already have a chronic sort of slow bleed but if we have a chronic explosion problem that's going to be much more impactful than what we already have. President Trump has tried to blame local Democratic leaders for the accident, however DC Water is under federal oversight The Environmental Protection Agency said it's committed to fulfilling its oversight role and helping make sure the recovery happens as quickly as possible The ultimate authority that really needs to be aggressive in addressing this

36:43 as the Environmental Protection Agency. That's Mike Jarrell, another scientist at the Chesapeake Bay Foundation He says the EPA also has to be the one leading programs to upgrade old sewer lines like the one that broke in Maryland Michael Copley NPR News Okay So, okay yeah now somehow we got to blame the EPA for this local issue. So let's listen to the Wendy Bell show The female right winger that does it Is this a podcast? No no she is a radio person I talked about her in the last show Oh oh yeah yeah She does stuff on Rumble in between Yeah And she is This from her show though This your new go-to Your new savage You've got a lady now This is your savage Oh yeah

37:28 This is not an in-between thing. This is on her show, this shows out of Philadelphia and she discusses the same situation. I have it as one 1.2, 1.3 so we start with one and it's a little different take on what's going on? Well if you need a reason to blow up DEI and put it away for good forever, it's this Potomac nightmare of raw waste that still pumping into the Potomac River after a month. It's absolutely So the Daily Caller did this great story and I want to read it to you. And that's all we're going to talk about in this segment, it's that egregious DC Water, that's the name of the big utility right? They have a CEO new guy well wouldn't during Joe Biden's tenure he waved a magic wand and he put some black guy in charge of it which is fine. You would hope the black guy came from some kind of utility background were gonna talk about that in a minute.

38:22 DC Waters CEO, that guy oversaw $520 million in DEI contract. And coincidentally the biggest sewage spill in US history like my let's chew a little bit and see what the priorities of this utility work shall we? While hundreds of millions of gallons of raw sewage accumulated in its pipes, the District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority was focused on diversity equity and other left wing priorities setting the stage for what may be. The largest sewage spill in American history DC water CEO David Gaddis

39:06 as his name, David Gattis. He's championed equity and diversity throughout his tenure who was also named in a lawsuit against his former employer for allegedly withholding information about water contamination in Flint Michigan. Let's dig a little bit deeper into this guy before joining DC Water In 2018, Gattis served as executive vice president of Veolia North America and CEO of Veolia Water Indianapolis. It's the utilities first black CEO and the first black executive to lead a major Indianapolis utility according to his bio. Woohoo!

39:48 Well, we have this guy who is... She could've done that in 30 seconds but I guess it's a radio show. You have any idea how much I took out? I believe you Yeah because you... That's why I don't usually take from these radio hosts because they In fact there was even a problem with Jesse Waters on TV They keep putting interstitials They can't stop with the asides. Yeah, so here we go at part two. Before Gattis arrived DC Water was considered a global role model commanding one of the highest reputations in the water sector. Gattis sought to take the authority to the next level by prioritizing equity for employees customers communities and contractors how about

40:40 I don't know, I'm just spitballing. How about clean water? Is that too much to ask for just water clean water that doesn't make my hair fall out he wanted to prioritize equity and so what did he do He started giving away money. How much money? Well, in fiscal year 2024 disadvantaged and women owned enterprises received about $520 million of business diversity and inclusion grants. They didn't need to prove that they knew how to- Did you say business and diversity inclusion grants

41:17 But she said, okay. Do anything they just needed to prove that they were diverse that maybe they had some ovaries Maybe they had some melanin and it was like yes here's your money and yes here's five hundred and twenty million dollars Well the EPA had to move in in April after Trump moved in, right? And suspend some of these awards and grants. No bid awards to people who by the way were proven to not fulfill their contract obligations they wouldn't be held accountable there was no liability like you can't make it up and now what do you see this mountain of human waste

42:00 Okay, so why is the president not railing on this and getting rid of this guy and changing things right away? This is what he usually does so well. He's a black guy first-of-his kind it's just they got this Epstein thing being charred you know hadn't been used as the hoax of the month I don't know, here's the little kicker. This kind of proves her point because she brings this guy on and then they have one last clip after that where he is introduced by a woman on another show He does a lot of media and here is this part

42:38 You know when I arrived at DC water this was this is your last clip by the way. I don't know what you're but no There's another clip, you know when I ride it pretty important topic eight clips You know when I arrived at BC water This was an organization that looked very similar to our to our our industry it was predominantly you know, white male at the top. But this is a utility that's more than 70% people of color work there. Yeah! There you go. That's my reason for being here. This utility and I really believe and i still believe in it has been fantastic the outcomes have been fantastic

43:15 But the people at the top, the executives, the chiefs in that C-suite they should look like uh... The employees that they serve and work with. And same thing with the community! So my executive team you know looks exact— Hold on a second If your'e the CEO your not serving the employees You're serving the public Can I just add what is the point of this? Of what? Of the series. Is it coming to a conclusion? Yeah, the point is that you have this situation where DEI is what Susan Rice was talking about and she wants to reimplement... Okay And this an example of where its headed which is sewage disasters by getting rid of Whitey at the top because the whitey at the top

44:07 Okay, is that enough? I can go on. Thank you! That helps...that helps Yes, you're right. The employees doesn't mean all black people don't know how to run a sewage plant but when it comes to DEI and people like Susan Rice yeah This is what you get that they serve and that they work with. And the same thing with the community, and so my executive team looks exactly like the community it looks like it looks like the employees, the staff be at people of color women men and it's just a fantastic team that has come together to do a lot of great things here at DC Water and in the community for the customer

44:49 Yeah, right. Well it's tough day for that guy. So yeah and you take people that know what they're doing and you get them out of there so you can put some of your buddies in and next thing you know the whole thing falls apart no one knows how to fix it. It's been going on for a month! And this is an example this last clip which I am sorry there are so many clips but I tried to keep him short but This is the Gattis intro on some show where this woman introduces him and you can see what all the priorities are. And she got named under some board that this guy put together, and he's so proud of himself for being a DEI guy. And this is what the Democrats are going to reintroduce when they get back in as this DEI bull crap which is not doing it during the public any good. It's costing more money than its worth

45:43 and connecting them to our well-established competitively viable minority owned firms. Today, in this special 50th anniversary episode we celebrate and pay tribute to an innovative leader and businessman Mr David Gaddis but before we start the conversation with him let me just tell you a little bit about him this is not his first induction into the Hall of Fame as I understand it He is, however the CEO and general manager of DC Water. In this role he oversees all authority including a $1 billion annual budget, a workforce of 1100 employees and the largest advanced wastewater treatment plant in the world I'd like to hear about that under his leadership DC water has emerged as a leader within the water sector on environmental justice and water equity programs such as the lead free dc program

46:37 which is eliminating all lead service lines within the district by 2030. Mr. Gattis has extended economic equity to the community through changes to the authority business development plan, which has improved access to contract opportunities for small and disadvantaged businesses and apprenticeship program that offers classroom and on-the-job training as well as the establishment of the authorities first ever Business Diversity Advisory Council, of which I'm a part. I'm very proud he also serves as chairman of the board of Blue Drop DC Water's nonprofit sales and marketing affiliate and is a frequent presenter at utility in government services conferences and with the National League of Cities and the National Association of Public Private Partnerships And before I bring him on you should know that prior to his service at D.C. water He led Viola

47:32 Water Indianapolis, CEO and President of Eola Water Indianapolis. He was the first African American CEO president and the first African American CEO to lead a major utility in Indianapolis Indiana so please help me welcome Mr David Gattas good day sir! Why didn't you say Comrade Gattas? That would have been... You might as well have. Thank you so much So you have to tell us about your induction into the Hall of Fame in basketball, University of Indiana. Okay, he gets to kill it now. They just talk about basketball for 10 minutes in kind of a stereotypical manner

CHAPTER 08 / 32 Discussion

Minnesota Medicaid Fraud, JD Vance Funding Halt

Vice President JD Vance announced a temporary halt of certain Medicaid payments to the state of Minnesota due to widespread fraud. The investigation focuses on sham businesses in Minneapolis that allegedly enriched themselves by billing for autism services that were never provided to children. The administration aims to force state accountability in stewardship of federal tax dollars.

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48:14 But the this is and this guy's not mentioned in the NPR report, which just glossed it over and blamed climate change. I mean how much of this could we take? We have lost all faith in our institutions and our water plants are poop plants. You're right. Epstein or not, the president needs to step in here. And I see it as an opportunity you got to cut this stuff off There's a lot to say that this guy did no good. You know, along the same lines of DEI because I think it's part of the same problem is you know the fraud in Minnesota it's just more of the same problem all the Somalis yeah oh yeah let's set him up with they can do centers for kids and leering center Vice President Vance made his stand on what they're doing with what's-his-name Bacha? Is that the guy who's running CDC now

49:17 I think it is. Yeah, I think you're right. Here's his little statement which is nothing gets the news these days nothing is in the timeline because Epstein We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously, to be good stewards of the American people's tax money. Now what is this gonna mean? What this means is that first of all, the providers on the ground in Minnesota have actually already been paid. The state has paid those providers the money. What we're doing is stopping federal payments that will go to the state government until the state government takes its obligations

50:05 seriously to stop the fraud that's being perpetrated against the American taxpayer. There are a few different ways that we're doing that, there are a few different affirmative actions that were taking today Dr. Oz is going to talk about those but let me talk a little bit about the spirit of this and why we're doing it so number one one of the examples of fraud that we've seen in Minnesota that we verify that is just awful is that a program that existed to ensure that autistic children had access to some after-school services has made a number of people rich, not by providing services to needy children but by allowing fraudsters to take money that ought by right go to American citizens and to the American families and set up sham businesses, set up sham clients

50:54 set up people who are not even autistic but claim to be autistic in order that they benefit from the money that's out there. Now what does that mean? Number one, it means a lot of people are getting rich off the generosity of American taxpayers but more fundamentally and more importantly than It means that there are kids in Minnesota who deserve these services, who need these services and they're not going to those kids. They're going to fraudsters in Minneapolis. That is unacceptable and that's the sort of thing we're cutting off with this action today And I tell you, it's not just Minneapolis. Medicare was a boondoggle! There is another report in Austin company pulled in tens of millions of dollars they think maybe up to hundreds of millions of dollars

51:40 Billing Medicare for stuff that people never got. I mean, yeah Yeah, it's obvious It is unbelievable this it's all fraud He's always medical systems They you know used to have private doctors and these other own offices in the rest and now it's all become some sort of system Systematically they got phone tests that you don't need when you go down they get all these things They'll come back, you know. Oh you gotta do this, you gotta do that. You're pre-cancerous! We need to run some tests on ya'. Yeah and then there was... This was a fun fraud in Los Angeles