Episode 184 · Sunday, 21 March 2010

All Your DNA [sic]Belong To Us

A push for national genetic tracking meets the reality of protected opium fields in Afghanistan and the Vatican's struggle with systemic scandal in Ireland.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama appeared on America's Most Wanted with John Walsh to advocate for a national DNA database, comparing genetic sampling upon arrest to standard fingerprinting. The Adam Walsh Act expansion signals a shift toward a centralized federal registry of genetic information, raising significant privacy concerns regarding the erosion of the Fourth Amendment. This push for biological data collection coincides with the insurance industry's interest in using actuarial tables and genetic predispositions to manage financial risk and potentially deny coverage.

In Afghanistan, U.S. Marines in Marja operate under orders to leave poppy fields intact to protect local farmer livelihoods, a move critics argue validates claims that the military surge protects the global opium harvest. Meanwhile, the Vatican faces intense scrutiny as Pope Benedict XVI issued a pastoral letter to Irish Catholics addressing systemic clergy abuse. The letter focuses on canonical penalties rather than legal accountability, while the Ryan Commission in Ireland hears testimony of a judicial cover-up involving the nation's elite. In the United States, Representative Don Young criticized the 2,700-page healthcare reform bill, highlighting the creation of 160 new grant programs and reports of the IRS hiring 16,000 agents for enforcement.

General John Sheehan sparked controversy during a Senate hearing by claiming the presence of gay soldiers led to the fall of Srebrenica, a claim dismissed as a distraction from military maneuvering. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak also deconstruct a Law and Order episode featuring Rob Corddry, characterizing the script as blatant propaganda against internet vigilantism. The episode concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for executive producers William Arcand, John Aaron, and Rob Seelock.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 184, Matutinal Greetings and Daily Source Code

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 184 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and the "Hilltop Watchtower." Curry announces the return of the Daily Source Code podcast, attributing its revival to the sustaining producers and donations from the No Agenda stream. The hosts discuss the meaning of the word "matutinal" and the importance of listener support.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· daily source code· matutinal· podcasting

00:00 That is about as lame as anything I've ever seen on the internet coming from a government site Adam Curry John C Devorah Time for your give my nation media assassination episode 184 this is no agenda Deconstructing the Mootootin'-al media from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center and Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. Hey, all the weather reports say that it's supposed to be sunny today. It's not. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. That's my word of the day. Mootootin'-al.

00:41 Yeah, good work. Do you know what that means? Is it a real word? Yeah, matutinal. Okay. It means in the morning. Oh, somebody gave us a bunch of those. Yeah, we should be using a couple of those once in a while. Yeah, these are good words. Words that matter. In the morning to you, my friend. In the morning to you. Yes. How you doing? Fine. I, uh, hey, I brought back the Daily Source code. Yes, I understand you ran it on Friday and everybody thought it was fantastic. You know, I actually, I don't think I've received a single negative comment. And, uh, and of course it's important... Oh, and you will. Eventually. It's important to point out that, uh, this is because of the donations to, uh, the No Agenda stream, the sustaining producers, um, that I'm now bringing this back.

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Vinyl Record Manufacturing, Tough Gong Records, and Material Composition

The hosts discuss the resurgence of vinyl records and the technical challenges of manufacturing them due to aging equipment and a lack of specialized shops. An anecdote is shared regarding a visit to Tough Gong Records in Jamaica, the original label for Bob Marley, where records were pressed by hand. The conversation covers the chemical composition of records, transitioning from historical shellac to modern petroleum-based polyvinyl chloride.

vinyl records· chrysler· tough gong records· bob marley· shellac· polyvinyl chloride

01:27 Yes. On a, uh, I'm going to try and, I'm not going to promise anything is what I'm going to do. Yes, please. We have a problem on this, on this show of promise over under, under delivering, but, uh, you, you, you, you want to do it twice a week though, right? I would like to. Yeah, I would like to, I'd like to do a lot of work that shows how long that one run. Uh, well the show run ran about an hour and five, an hour and 10 minutes, but you know, it takes time to prepare. I spent a whole afternoon just doing the opening. No, okay. You know all these shows take time to prepare even even if you're just playing records You know it takes time records listen to me records You heard it ladies and gentlemen my goodness I said records Give me my records everybody you know records are coming back in fashion vinyl is actually selling quite well these days

02:16 Yeah, it is. But only for retro use and it's just crackpot nowadays. No, no, no. You know, companies like Chrysler's are releasing vinyl regularly. It's not crackpot. There's only a few guys. There was a special on one of the TV shows. Only a few guys can still do the vinyl. They pulled out most of that gear. So there's like three or four shops in the whole country where there used to be hundreds cranking out vinyl discs. Yeah. And then apparently the equipment's not made anymore. So they have to, you know, kind of scrounge to keep the things working. So I don't think vinyl is going to be even possible to be manufactured in the next, say, maybe 20 years from now. I remember I did a documentary of Jamaica once and we went to Tough Gong Records. You know Tough Gong? No. Well, they are the original Bob Marley label. This was the original...

03:08 Jamaica sound record label. I know the real tinny sound No, it was it was no it was really it was the only place where they could press records and It was cool because I actually took a took a demo track down Recording and they pressed it right on to onto vinyl there It's kind of fun in the old-school way where they're actually throwing the goop onto the platter themselves by hand Yeah, it was fun What is that goop made of besides vinyl? Polyvinyl chloride mostly as far as I know and there's some binders in there and there's also some carbon and then there's some lubricants. It must be, it's all petroleum based though right? As far as I know it's yeah it's plastic. Okay so as a green initiative we should ban all vinyl.

03:59 We should, because it's causing global warming as we speak. So the 78s were made out of some other stuff. Oh yeah, those things would break if you picked up a stack and they weren't neatly aligned. You go, oh crap, and half of them would break off in your hand. Yeah, yeah. It was called shellac, but it wasn't, I don't know what it was. I actually should look into it. I should know these things. Yeah, you should. Shellac. Hey John as we get underway You know a lot of people email us and say you know that beginning banter you guys do that That's very hard to get people to get into the show What one guy's got shellac in his hair is it what are they talking about?

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, TV Advertising Frustrations, and Show Support

The hosts acknowledge their executive producers, including Dwayne Melanson, John Aaron, and Rob Seelock, while criticizing the current state of broadcast television. A specific critique is leveled at the A&E network's airing of the movie Traffic, which was interrupted by excessive and surreal commercials every seven minutes. They argue that the traditional advertising-supported media model is broken, reinforcing the necessity of their donation-based system.

dwayne melanson· john aaron· rob seelock· a&e· traffic· advertising· executive producers

04:44 So do we have two schools of thought? No, that's the best part because you guys get to talk about things that are kind of you know And another guy say you're boring us stiff. We want news right? But one thing we're not we're not gonna stop doing which is telling people who the executive producers are right? Lay it on me Johnny boy. So we got three executive producers and two associate executive producers. Okay, I'm ready I am ready to what and actually we got three nights today, which will do it. Holy moly Really? Well, one of the nights is a black knight John Aaron who is also the executive producer who gave us a 1024

05:21 He says he was gonna buy a new TV but he doesn't need it, he'd rather give us the money. Good man. Let me tell you something, last night, last night, against my better judgment we watched a movie on TV. and it was on A&E, it was Traffic, which I think I'd seen before, it's with Michael Douglas, it's about the... Yeah, I wondered, I saw that on the listing and I was thinking to myself, have I seen this movie before? I think so. You probably have, he basically becomes the... I went to watch C-SPAN instead. Yeah, I know. Well, I made a huge mistake and I wound up prepping until 1.30. because of it. Because what happens is, it was unbelievable. They would do seven minutes of movie and five minutes of commercials. And the commercials consisted of panda bears with snorkels, all kinds of psychedelic crap like ginger ale bottles talking to me. And then there's this Dairy Queen commercial that has a female mouth with a male voice. My brain was exploding. Every seven minutes, they'd interrupt the movie for five minutes of commercials. And I vowed,

06:23 That's it. I am never again watching a movie on a broadcast station ever, ever, ever. So you're right. You might as well just give up your whole TV. It's worthless. It doesn't work. It's broken. I'm totally in agreement with you. It's broken. And the whole model of these guys, they got to keep more advertising going in because they're just losing their shirts. Alright, executive producers. Dwayne Melanson. Melanson. Melanson? Melanson. Melanson? Yeah, Melanson. With an L or an N? E-M-E-L-A-N-C-O-N. But it's for... but he... Melanson. It's Cajun, or French. He's tasty. He's yum. Okay, now, well, excellent.

07:26 Wow, man, this is gonna be a big production. We've got three executive producers. That means this is a big, big show. Yeah, we got two co-executive producers. Let's, uh... By the way, Melancon is, I think he may have been from Louisiana, but I think he's from, he's listed as being in Tigard, Oregon. You know, Tigard and Winnie the Pooh? Yeah, Tigard. Anyway, it's T-I-G-A-R-D-E. Very funny. 365, I'm hilarious. So we have Lee Ryan and Pepper Fleming.

08:02 Lee Ryan $255.10 and Pepper Fleming gave us $250.00. They're the associate executive producers. TV, pop quiz, trivia. Who was Pepper? I don't know. Come on man, Pepper. Pepper, don't you remember? It was a fantastic television series, cop show, Pepper. Oh, it was, wasn't it, uh, uh, what's her, it's a woman. It was a woman. Yes. The problem with Pepper, it's, it's ambiguous. You don't know if it's a man or a woman. Yeah. Well, it reminds me of, come on. Yeah. It was, uh, uh, what's her name? The, the, the actress. Yeah. It wasn't real. It was an actress, John. You're correct. Yeah. I know who it is. It's, uh, without looking it up. Angie Dickinson is police woman.

08:45 Yeah, and pepper. Yeah, we used to watch that religiously. I love that show. She was hot. Oh my god when I think of pepper I think of pepper Rogers the former coach of the UCLA Bear Bruins anyway peppers in Sarasota and Ryan Lee's in Ashland, Kentucky and Might as well mention Kentucky's got a good shot at winning the basketball championship this year. So I'd like to thank our executive producers for episode 184 of No Agenda, John Aaron, Rob C. Locke, and Dwayne Melathon. And our social... No, no, no. William, we've got one more, sorry. We had three executive producers. The other one is William Arcand in Drake Cut, Massachusetts. He was... Wait a minute, so we have four... Oh no, wait, I take it back. No, wait, wait, wait, sorry. I'm sorry, he's the knight. Who's the knight? William Arcand, John Aaron, and Rob Seelock are all knights. And our executive producers are John Aaron,

09:48 Rob Seelock and Dwayne Melanson. You're right. You're right. I'm sorry. Well, you know what? You really suck because, you know, it's like I'm trying to do these people some some props here and you're just messing it up. So you go. OK, John Aaron, Rob Seelock, Dwayne Melanson, William Arcand, who is a knight and who will be we will be knighting later along with John and Rob and our associate executive producers for Episode 184 of No Agenda, Lee Ryan and Pepper Fleming. And we really appreciate your support for the show. With a credit roll like that, you know it's going to be a huge show. You can take this, you can put it on your resume, you can always have us reference you or vouch for you if necessary. And of course, you get to go out and adhere to our very simple formula, which is this. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

10:42 And for those of you with a knighthood, soon you will be able to really hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! With your knighthood ring. Yeah, I have a big list. So I mean, but C-Lock was complaining that we that we've never read his little comments. And and I have to say, by the way, it's Ryan Lee, not Lee Ryan.

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

Wi-Fi SSID Promotion, Guest Network Security, and Router Technology

A listener suggestion to change Wi-Fi SSIDs to "noagendastream.com" is discussed as a grassroots marketing tactic. The hosts explore the technical feasibility of using 802.11n routers to set up secondary guest networks with the password "in the morning." This method allows producers to provide internet access to others while keeping their primary home networks secure and segmented.

wi-fi· ssid· 802.11n· routers· guest accounts· networking

11:34 Okay, yeah, luckily we're paying Eric to sit in a special chat room to help out Ashland At least I got the Kentucky part right now. Anyway, it's not funny. It's just not funny Well, it's fine. If you want to just sit here and spend time berating me I mean if you want to waste minutes and minutes of the show, that's one thing But if you want me to just finish this little commentary up, it would probably be better. Please finish He invited us to Calgary Anytime we want to go And he's buying the beer. Although not officially a PR associate, I do give honorable mention to Mander Waymaster, which I believe is an alias, for a fantastic idea on how to propagate the show. And he sent along a screenshot which he's posted on his Flickr site, which I have put into the show notes at noagendershow.com. He says, why don't you have everyone change their Wi-Fi SSID, that's your Wi-Fi name, to noagenderstream.com?

12:33 And he sent along a picture of his and I think that's a pretty good idea. That's a great idea. Because not only does it promote our URL for noagendastream.com, but it also identifies you. And we probably should have a universal password that you can use if you come across a noagendastream.com Wi-Fi access point. Well, let's put it this way, since you don't want everyone opening up their systems. But many of the new routers, if not all of them, have the ability to have a second sub-segment. Oh really? Oh yeah. And so you can have like a little, it doesn't give you the full bandwidth, but for an emergency use or something, you can go on there and get your email. And that's what you want the password for.

13:20 So somebody has no agenda if they have one of the new routers usually an a you know one of the N routers the whole the whole chat room is like hold on switching windows. Yeah done Everyone's doing it as we speak 802 11 dot n routers almost all the new ones the good ones You know you can when you set the router up. You'll see that the secondary Connection is available, and you can and we and the password is in the morning Yeah, so if you have yeah, and it would only be on that one don't do it on the guy I don't advise doing it on the main so you can do it It's a secondary and then what can you do? You can only like do certain things. You can't really get onto the network What is it? What does it allow you to get on the internet? Well perfect, so you just set up your secondary Password right I'd have never even seen this I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, I got two routers here that do it and

14:11 And it's actually, it's for guest accounts. Essentially say you have a little small company and you want people to come in but you don't want them on your network necessarily and you don't want to deal with all the complexities of keeping them off of it. You just set up this guest account which is kind of segmented off from the main connection and it allows people to go on the internet. Wow, we just had a massive split on the IRC channel, okay. This show is getting out of control. Yeah, and then you complain about me not being able to handle all these figures. Maybe we should stop while we're ahead. While we're still alive. How's that for an idea?

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

Law and Order Script Analysis, Internet Vigilantism, and Media Propaganda

The hosts analyze clips from a Law and Order episode featuring actor Rob Corddry, which they characterize as propaganda against internet vigilantism and texting while driving. They deconstruct the "surreal" dialogue regarding words on the internet having lethal consequences and a plot involving a woman claiming to receive messages from the devil. The segment highlights how mainstream television dramas often push specific social and legal narratives.

law and order· rob corddry· propaganda· internet vigilantism· script analysis

14:53 So, I have many things that we could talk about today, of course way too many things, which keeps propelling me. I think we're making a mistake. We keep going longer and longer on the show and maybe we should just... No, we have to keep the show under two hours. And we have to go to three a week. It just makes no sense. Because you know how much stuff we leave on the table? Just, okay, remind me. Please remind me to talk about the Pope's letter. Okay, talk about the post letter. No, I don't want to talk about it now. Why not? Elders first. You're going to forget to talk about it. Elders first, please. You did a lot of work. I see you got a lot of clips. You've got something on your mind. I can tell.

15:30 Yeah You so and by the way, have you gotten it? Oh anyway What's the clips? Let's do a clip. Let's do something light-hearted. Yes. Oh something. So like some real news or No, I wouldn't call real news. It's one of these but you know the law and order kind of thing. Oh Okay, is this bad act is any good? No. No, this is well. There's always bad acting This is about this law and order which was a rerun But I had not seen it was pretty good because had two two different propaganda pieces in it One of them was about how evil it is to be texting while driving and you could be killed murdered Really you could be murdered if you do yeah, cuz the guy was murdered Okay

16:16 And he was murdered by a bunch of, and this is the second propaganda piece, he was murdered by a bunch of nutcases that were on the internet on some sort of a vigilante site where they would go after people and name their names, put their addresses, make people harass them so everybody got phone calls and stuff like that. So to get a feeling for shows, this particular show, one of the clips I think it's named something of a... what's the Law and Order clip name? I've got Crazy Woman and Dialogue of the Devil. Yeah. Dialogue of the Devil? What's the other one? Crazy Woman and Dialogue of the Devil? Yes. Use dialogue... I didn't know if it could have been one clip.

17:02 Why are you so touchy today? Play dialogue of the devil. You're lucky the judge didn't throw your case out entirely. She's living in the 20th century. Words on the internet have consequences. Yes. Now I love it already words on the internet have consequence those words can kill you Now I want you to listen to the thing from beginning to end with it in mind as what if it was a radio show? This would be like the most surreal dialogue and everything you know the imaginable Okay You're lucky the judge didn't throw your case out entirely. She's living in the 20th century. Words on the internet have consequences. Actually, she's living in the 18th century, when the Bill of Rights was written, which on balance is a good thing. Well, if it weren't for what people on that website said and did, Carrie Sands would have never murdered Sid Maxwell. Yes, but now you'll have to forget about the said.

17:59 I'm dropping the charges against the cheerleaders, but I'm still moving against the guy who ran the site and the people who sent out the photos and the door code. They'll say they were only encouraging people to send Maxwell a message that they never intended for him to be killed. They were dealing with a crazy woman. They didn't have to intend for her to kill him. If they recklessly disregarded the likelihood that it would happen, they're guilty. Good luck. Thank you for sharing the information about this accomplice of the devil. Okay. It's almost like a one long non sequitur. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. It's just one thing. And then this devil thing, they just throw, they're just throwing mind control at you the whole time. It's just, it's nothing. And then the other one, which is about the woman, this woman was a psycho and um,

18:58 and she well you can play the woman the other clip and you'll you'll get it miss sands if you don't mind could you come back and sit for a minute we checked accident reports from three years ago and there was no report involving a taxi and a child I saw it happen. And you do have a daughter, but she didn't die. Social services took her away from you because you offered her to a Catholic church as a human sacrifice. I don't believe in human sacrifices. Ms. Sands, were you at Mr. Maxwell's apartment Friday night?

19:50 He was getting messages from the devil. Who was? Mr. Maxwell? Not just him. He tells them whom to kill. Who tells who whom to kill? Mr. Maxwell, the devil. Yeah, please see a lawyer now. You know what I don't I don't know what's scarier this clip or the fact that you watch this and took time to record it into a clip and then actually email it to me think of all the wasted time What is the point? I love this stuff. It's it's completely nuts

20:33 They've gone off the deep end with this kind of story though and the great part about it for people out there who like the Jon Stewart show, the guy who was the evil webmaster, the guy running the website was Rob Corddry. Oh that's funny. That's the bald guy? Yeah, the bald guy. That is pretty funny. So I mean the whole thing was hilarious. So the Pope wrote a letter. I heard that he did. Yes, and I actually was stupid enough to go and download the letter and read it in which he basically says nothing. Instead of, hey, I'm sorry we covered this up for 25 years, which is what he should have said. Actually, I have a PDF of his letter. I highlighted a couple of the choice bits. Can I give you a point of irony about this whole thing that I actually found amusing? Yes.

21:27 is that you remember when the economic collapse took place right at the beginning, all these Europeans, the Scottish banks in Ireland and most of the EU, oh, it's an American problem, oh, it's an American problem, we got, we, the Americans are idiots. Right, right, the mortgage crisis, oh, the Americans overextended themselves, yeah. Yeah, meanwhile, of course, when the Catholic Church in the United States started falling apart because of the scandal started happening all over the place, Same thing all the Americans. Oh, it's got nothing to do with us It's just those crazy Americans those pedophiles over there, you know, which was your button five six seven eight nine ten years Later, we see this happening. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is this is it's it's quite amazing and of course I'm referencing a huge number of reports and lawsuits and people who are coming out that they've been severely

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

Pope Benedict XVI, Irish Clergy Abuse Scandal, and Apostolic Letter

Pope Benedict XVI issued a pastoral letter to the Catholics of Ireland addressing the long-running scandal of child abuse by clergy members. The hosts criticize the letter for focusing on "canonical penalties" and church reputation rather than legal accountability or the welfare of the victims. They note the irony of European officials previously dismissing American church scandals as a uniquely American problem before similar systemic issues were uncovered in Ireland.

pope benedict xvi· ireland· catholic church· child abuse· vatican· canonical law

20:33 They've gone off the deep end with this kind of story though and the great part about it for people out there who like the Jon Stewart show, the guy who was the evil webmaster, the guy running the website was Rob Corddry. Oh that's funny. That's the bald guy? Yeah, the bald guy. That is pretty funny. So I mean the whole thing was hilarious. So the Pope wrote a letter. I heard that he did. Yes, and I actually was stupid enough to go and download the letter and read it in which he basically says nothing. Instead of, hey, I'm sorry we covered this up for 25 years, which is what he should have said. Actually, I have a PDF of his letter. I highlighted a couple of the choice bits. Can I give you a point of irony about this whole thing that I actually found amusing? Yes.

21:27 is that you remember when the economic collapse took place right at the beginning, all these Europeans, the Scottish banks in Ireland and most of the EU, oh, it's an American problem, oh, it's an American problem, we got, we, the Americans are idiots. Right, right, the mortgage crisis, oh, the Americans overextended themselves, yeah. Yeah, meanwhile, of course, when the Catholic Church in the United States started falling apart because of the scandal started happening all over the place, Same thing all the Americans. Oh, it's got nothing to do with us It's just those crazy Americans those pedophiles over there, you know, which was your button five six seven eight nine ten years Later, we see this happening. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is this is it's it's quite amazing and of course I'm referencing a huge number of reports and lawsuits and people who are coming out that they've been severely

22:21 abused by Roman Catholic priests in Ireland. I actually have an audio clip that I want to share with you. So anyways, the Pope has to come out and he has to say, well, sorry. And what he should be saying is, you know, wow, I can't believe we covered this up. I'm going to like fire all these guys. But of course he was part of the cover-up. So I download this letter which is like, ugh, it's like eight pages, you know, a couple of bits here. It is true, as many in your country have pointed out, that the problem of child abuse in peculiar, which I find... In peculiar? Yes. That can say in particular? That's what I thought, but it says P-E-C-U-L-I-A-R. Peculiar. This was on the PDF? This is the actual PDF, yes. Huh, that's just a typo.

23:12 Does the Pope not have Microsoft Word? This is killing me. It says, so SIC, I will say, S-I-C. What does that stand for by the way? Means it's wrong. Thank you. Child abuse is peculiar neither to Ireland nor to the church. So right now, right there he's saying, hey, you know, this shit happens all over the place. How does he know that? Yeah, he gets memos. Certainly among the contributing factors we can include inadequate procedures for determining the suitability of candidates for the priesthood and religious life, insufficient human moral intellectual and spiritual formation in seminaries and novitiate, what is this word? Novitiates. Novitiates. A tendency in society to favor the clergy and other authority figures and a misplaced concern for the reputation of the church and the avoidance of scandal.

24:05 resulting in failure to apply existing canonical penalties. He's not even talking about law, he's talking about church law. That's what canonical is, right? Apparently. So I start to get into this. Oh actually he has a he has a like a ten point ten points here listed and numbered. Can I ask a question? Yes. At the very end does he have a little happy face you draw on there? A little smiley. To priests and religious who have abused children here's his here's the whole message. You betrayed... Cut it out! Yeah, here it is. You cut it out, dude! You're making us look bad! You betrayed the trust that was placed in you by innocent young people and their parents and you must answer it before Almighty God and before properly constituted tribunals. Again, not saying you should really go to jail.

25:00 You have forfeited the esteem of the people of Ireland and brought shame and dishonor upon your confrères. Those of you who are priests violated the sanctity of the sacrament of holy orders in which Christ makes himself present in us and our actions. Together with the immense harm done to victims, great damage has been done to the church and to the public perception of the priesthood and religious life." How about the kids, Popey? How about the... there's not a single word. Anyway, I can go on and on but that'll be annotated and I'll drop a link to the show. Yeah so Now we got to get to this clip of one of the abuse now. It's It's a guy speaking so they had Something called the Ryan commit this has been brewing for a long time something called the Ryan Commission report in Ireland and This part was televised

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

Ryan Commission, Irish Victim Testimony, and Judicial Corruption

A televised segment from the Ryan Commission in Ireland features a victim testifying about the horrific abuse and subsequent dismissal by the legal system. The testimony describes a cycle of physical and sexual abuse followed by religious rituals, and the victim accuses the "elite" and the judiciary of being intertwined in a cover-up. The hosts highlight the emotional toll on survivors and the perceived corruption within the Irish justice system.

ryan commission· ireland· abuse victims· barristers· judicial corruption· testimony

25:58 where people were able to ask questions of the law enforcement and ministers and say, ministers as in ministers of parliament, what the hell is going on? It's amazing, it's kind of hard, you got to focus because he's speaking with an Irish accent and the YouTube video that I'm going to play for you actually has subtitles so you may want to go back later and get it. But the key words will be, I think, pretty clear. By the way, when someone says they've been buggered, that's basically violated. So here's a guy who's it's it's sad to hear what? Hundreds of children went through and this guy of course is now somewhat older as this is now just really coming to light Chairman I'm surprised that minister there now first of all mr. Minister you made a bagsy but in the beginning by changing the judges you made a complete bags about I just that's a really pertinent point

26:57 On this Ryan Commission, they had judges and then the judges were changed because we all know that the judges are involved and all. The justice system is completely corrupt the world round and I think most of them are, not most of them, a lot of them are in on this scandal. I went to the Lafayette Commission and you had seven barristers there questioning me and telling me I was telling lies when I told them that I got raped over Saturday, got a merciful beating after it. and then stopped up and he came along the following morning and put holy communion in me mouth. Did you hear that? Yeah. This is chilling, John. It's chilling.

27:35 You don't know what happened there. You had the foggies, you're talking through your hat there, and you're talking to a fiend of farm man, a former councillor, a former mayor. You're talking to... What toot and nail for the party that you're talking about now. You didn't do it right. You got it wrong. Admit it and apologise for doing that. Because you don't know what I feel inside me. You don't know the hurt I am. You said to his non-adversarial, my God. So...

28:24 You need to go and watch it. I think a lot of people might have trouble actually understanding what he's saying. It seems so easy when you're actually reading along, so I'm just cautious. But you can see how all of this was intertwined with the barristers, that would be the judges. who basically dismissed all of these claims saying, oh you don't know what you're talking about, nothing happened, you dreamt it up. It just shows how these elite have completely intertwined everything. Five days I spent at the commission. They brought a man over from Rome, 90 odd years of age, to tell me I was telling lies. That I wasn't beaten for an hour, non-stop by two of them.

29:09 By two of them, non-stop, from head to toe, without a shred of cloth on my body. My God, Minister. And now, could I speak to you and ask your leader, would you stop making a political football of this? You're heartless when you do that. So I put together a whole list of links and probably the one that is most amazing is from this site that I've been following now for the past couple months called Angerfan. And Anger Fan does some amazing research. You can't, I mean we'd have to do a three hour show just on this topic alone. But is very capable of connecting the Pope all the way down to Boys Town, which you and I have talked about. And so you must read this article. And Boys Town of course is

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

AngerFan Research, Boys Town, and UK D-Notices

The hosts discuss research from the "AngerFan" blog, which attempts to link the Vatican, the Boys Town scandal in Omaha, and high-level political figures like George H.W. Bush and Tony Blair. The discussion mentions the alleged use of "D-Notices" in the UK to suppress stories involving government officials and pedophilia. They explore the theory that the Watergate break-in was related to a "pedophile book" used for blackmailing members of Congress.

angerfan· boys town· lawrence king· tony blair· d-notice· watergate

30:09 Is a story that has been completely suppressed by the media literally because there's but you can't but people are interested could Easily track it down on the web. Yeah. Well, there's even a link to to the video here in the In this story, but this goes all the way through George Bush with Lawrence King who was basically grabbing children from Boys Town in Omaha. A lot of interesting people live in Omaha by the way, just like to point out. Not saying anything. But it's very, just the stories and some of them you actually have to go into archive.org because of course they've been removed. Someone really has to do a clean up on this whole blog post. And this is brand new by the way. It actually goes all the way through

31:00 to the Watergate break-in, which according to AngerFan allegedly they were looking for the homosexual pedophile book which was used to blackmail many congressmen and senators. And he can actually, or he or she, whoever this is, can actually connect all of these pieces together. It's a fantastic piece of research. It's just amazing. Then you've got Operation Ore, you've got just so many things. My favorite has to be Tony Blair. I guess we weren't doing the show at the time.

31:44 But there was at a certain point, there was a story that was going to be published everywhere that Tony Blair and his entire cabinet were linked to pedophilia and child abuse and he put out what's called a D What do they call it a D warning or I'm looking for the story here? The 10 Downing Street has an option to kill something in the press with it They issue a D status or whatever that means you cannot publish it Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, and they've used that many many times. Let me see if I could just find this here this well, and the links are all in in in the anger fan posting and

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

National DNA Database, Adam Walsh Act, and Obama's Privacy Stance

President Barack Obama appeared on America's Most Wanted with John Walsh to advocate for a national DNA database and increased funding for the Adam Walsh Act. Obama expressed support for states taking DNA samples upon arrest, comparing the practice to fingerprinting. The hosts express concern over the erosion of privacy and the potential for a centralized federal registry of genetic information.

barack obama· john walsh· adam walsh act· dna database· fbi· privacy

32:29 And I just have to say it again, this is rife. This is all the way through all levels of government, justice systems, the church, and it's bad fricking news. Now what's interesting... Sounds terrible. Yeah, it really is. What's interesting is You know, and we talked about this briefly on the last show where now nudity is essentially in America being equated to pornography. And I have a couple of other links of, you know, you have all these different tiers of sex abuse and everyone is being deemed a sex offender. You know, you pee against a tree, you get a sex offender label, there's all kinds of weird... And by the way, I'm all for

33:22 stopping sex offenders, nothing against that, but it's being completely misused and the most egregious misuse of sex offenders and pedophiles and child killers has got to be what I saw on America's Most Wanted where John Walsh interviewed President Obama And there's something called the Adam Walsh Act, you know, that John Walsh's son was abducted and killed, and that's what got him started on this show, which has been on the air for a long time. It's probably coming up on 30 years or something. It's been on the air for quite a long time. And the Adam Walsh Act has a lot to do with these three different tiers of sex offenders.

34:13 And they're taking it in a very frightening direction. Let's listen to a little bit of this interview. To continue to build up the U.S. Marshals capacity, that's something that we want to do in our federal budget. We also want to provide some support for things like DNA testing at the state levels. A lot of these local law enforcement officials are just strapped for some of the basic resources, getting the databases set up. Those are all areas where I think we can provide a lot of help and my expectation is is that we're gonna get support Bipartisan support from Congress on this issue because it's so important to every family across America, and they're just too many horror stories that You know remind us that we're not doing enough so Apparently the states are being funded to set up DNA databases. I didn't know this I

35:04 Well, apparently that's the case. Of course, they're so backed up with criminal DNA investigations to the tune of 90 days for most of them, according to testimony by the FBI, that this, you know, when you start boiling down this DNA thing, besides the fact that it's an invasion of privacy to say the least, I... Think that Obama's like going on to this show because it's because if you if you can couch everything in the terms of save the children And do this and do that yeah, you can get a lot more done when in fact nobody gives a crap about Saving the children or they you know they take some things more seriously than other things it's just a ruse and

35:49 And the Rus, in my opinion, when it comes to DNA, is not necessarily the sinister government side, but the fact that if we start to analyze who, again, and we've talked about this before, who was the number one contributor or one of the top contributors? What organizational or what segment of society gave Obama more money than they give to anybody in Congress and probably more than they give to anybody combined, the insurance industry. The insurance industry at some point in time would love to get a hold of a DNA database for all their customers so they could say, well, and so they could pull the plug on you when you're 71 years old knowing that you're probably gonna drop dead when you're 72.

36:31 And let me give you a little story about how this all began. Do you mind John? I'd like I really want to go in that direction Can I just play the rest of this clip because it's much worse than this Okay, go the marshals have done an outstanding job The FBI has done an outstanding job with the internet crimes portion of it with over a hundred thousand non-compliant level-3 sex offenders. Here's my commitment John we are going to do everything in our power as long as I'm in the White House and And as long as I'm the father of two girls, to make sure that we're providing the states the support that they need to make this happen. The DNA portion of it is something that I hope to see in my lifetime, that every one of the states have a DNA compliance. And now we have 18 states who are taking DNA upon arrest. England has done it for years. It's no different than fingerprinting or

37:23 By the way, that's a lie. England has not done it legally. There's huge debate over that. It's not just a throwaway line like, oh, England's doing it. It's okay. That's bull. Since those states have been doing it, it has cleared 200 people that are innocent from jail. I love that twist. Oh, you know it could clear you it could get you out of jail if the DNA can prove that. That's a nice little throwaway line there. Now listen, it's about to get really bad. I think that this is something this country has to deal with. It's the right thing to do and then as you well know John, this is where the national registry becomes so important. Making sure that not only are we getting these

38:04 DNA tests done state by state, but then nationally everybody's talking to each other. That's how we make sure that we continue to tighten the grip around folks who have perpetrated these crimes. Very difficult for me in a country that has done so many great things and so many things that we look up to, that the world looks up to, is that we don't have a DNA test. It's not acceptable. And as you said, this is something that should transcend party. whatever your attitudes about politics here in Congress. Congress should be able to do this. So now you've got 23% increase in funding for the Adam Walsh Act. Let's see if we can start building on that. Five years down the road, we can look back and say, you know what, we got a lot of stuff done and we probably saved a lot of lives of innocent people and innocent children from these predators. And I know you're a very loud voice for victims. All right, there you go. So the president vows to make a national DNA database on the air.

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

Progressive Insurance, Actuarial Data, and Genetic Risk Management

The hosts discuss the history of Progressive Insurance, noting its origins as a data-driven company that used actuarial tables to predict driver risk. They argue that the insurance industry's ultimate goal is to acquire DNA data to perform advanced risk management, potentially denying coverage to individuals based on genetic predispositions to diseases. They warn that the "nothing to hide" argument regarding privacy fails to account for how personal data can be used for financial exclusion.

progressive insurance· risk management· actuarial tables· dna data· health insurance

39:06 And you're absolutely right, John. If people actually cared about children, they would be caring about a lot of other things like real education, real food. etc. And I do like your analysis that this is, it's probably not even about the children at all. It's probably, you're right, it's probably about getting the insurance company's DNA data. Here, let me tell you how this all began. This, about maybe 20 years ago, I gave a speech for Progressive. insurance company out of Cleveland. And this is before they were an insurance company per se, before they came out with all their crazy, you know, we'll give you the quotes from everybody, which is by the way, part of their marketing plan, if you know exactly how they work. Progressive began, and I was fascinated by this by the way, I think the people at Progressive are geniuses. These are the people who have the commercial with the man bag?

40:05 The European man bag, yes. Okay, I got it. So they give you the quotes, they have the database, they started off as a database company that did actuarial tables and things where they could analyze, and this was like over 20 years ago, they could analyze, and they showed me all this stuff. They said, we can take a look at any one person in the country and take a look at their, this is what advertisers always want to do. They figure you can click the button a few times, they got you nailed. They know exactly what you're going to do. We can tell by the person's background, where they're living, what they're driving, and all these other things based on. It's risk management. That's what insurance is, risk management. Right. And they can tell if you're going to get into a wreck in the next 24 months. And so then they could,

40:53 they used to just sell the data so people can take, you know, so the other insurance companies, it was the other insurance companies, so they could like figure out, you know, who the high risk areas are, what the likelihood is the car's gonna get stolen and all the rest of it. Then they decided, the second stroke of genius was to say, well hey, if we can do this, why don't we start an insurance company ourselves and sell insurance and we can actually pull this stunt, which I think is the genius part, which is that because we know so much, but we have so much details on individuals and what's gonna happen, that we can tell that somebody like Allstate for example is going to give those people a quote of $200 a month. Right. And we can cut it. No, or more. We can say, look,

41:41 We can't afford it at 200 bucks a month. They're going to lose money on this guy. Go and so they could push people in that direction. Say, go, yeah, go buy the Allstate stuff. And they would do that because essentially it's hurting Allstate because the progressive guys know that you can't do the $200 deals. It has to be 225. And so then if they had somebody overpriced, obviously then they had the advantage because they had the data. Now insurance companies love this because it gives them the ultimate control. Now if they had DNA databases of everybody, they could tell if you have genetic issues with maybe you're gonna get diabetes or maybe you're prone to a heart attack, you're not gonna live to be past 55, you're gonna catch this disease, you're gonna have that disease, you're gonna get into this problem, you're gonna have

42:28 mental illness, you're gonna have all these different things because that's what DNA can tell if you know, once it starts getting analyzed to death. And so now you can say, well, here's an interesting old man, he's 71 years old. We have all the control in the world. At 71, we've made the money off and we're pulling his policy because we know he's going to die in the next two years and we don't want to cover it. Or all the medical insurance companies can pull the same thing. The reason that, you know, the thing about DNA and all the rest of these things is a lot of times it's a smoke screen for what people are really after and it's money. And point, fact of the matter is when people get all worked up about, and this one here being a privacy thing is amusing to me because it'll bring the privacy laggards out into the woodwork. You know, the people who say, when you say, well, I don't care about, you know, all these cameras all over the place. I have nothing to hide. I've got nothing to hide. I've got nothing to hide. I've got nothing to hide. They keep saying that. Hey, buddy.

43:24 In this case, you do have something to hide. Your future may be tied up in your DNA. You can get screwed over. You'll be pushing a shopping cart. Mr. I've got nothing to hide because of this kind of thing. This is the problem with people who are, who are kind of lacked about privacy. This is just a, you know, the tip of the iceberg, the cameras, and then it goes to the next thing. And then, well, we, there's nothing to hide. The cameras don't mean anything to me. DNA I don't care. I'll give them the DNA nothing to hide right the cameras are just a little stepping stone to the to the next part which is a Basically making your entire body transparent

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

Healthcare Reform, Tort Reform, and Medical Malpractice Lawsuits

As Congress prepares to vote on healthcare reform, the hosts discuss the absence of tort reform in the proposed legislation. They argue that the high cost of healthcare is driven by exorbitant medical malpractice insurance premiums resulting from massive lawsuits. They criticize the Democratic party's ties to trial lawyers and suggest that the current bill fails to address the underlying financial burdens on the medical profession.

healthcare reform· tort reform· trial lawyers· john edwards· medical malpractice· hmos

44:00 Exactly, and the funny thing is, you know, we had a couple of our producers, students that talked about how they bring this stuff up in class and this I've got nothing to hide thing has become a very important propaganda point, a meme if you will, in the society because people who say that they're being led astray because they don't get it. It's not about having something to hide or not having something to hide. There's all kinds of sinister aspects to all this stuff and there's a good reason for privacy. So this is why I don't understand the health care package that I guess is being voted on today or the health care reform which of course is health care insurance reform. I don't understand

44:43 How you can, how any insurance company, unless the, unless what we're being told, which of course I do believe is bull crap and there's, you know, it means something else. And of course, up is down and left is right. And it's always the other way around, it seems. How can you tell Let me give an example. So this is insurance and one of the, there are two big things on this. One is 32 million Americans who don't have insurance will get insurance. And remind me to tell you about my daughter's great health care in the UK in a moment. No one will be denied health care insurance, but they're saying health care.

45:24 and words matter, based upon pre-existing conditions. Well see, I believe this to be exactly the opposite of the truth and it makes no sense. If you are in the insurance business, which is the risk management business, they're not, you know, insurance companies don't do health care. They don't cure you, they don't give you MRIs, they insure you against it and make sure that, you know, you can pay the exorbitant fees of this out of control cost. How can any business stay in business if essentially they're told you can't deny anyone unless they can't deny anyone by charging an outrageous premium. That's exactly what it is. That's the only thing that they can... in fact that would be actually that would be great by mandating the... by mandating coverage for everyone but also mandating oh well okay but you know then of course someone's gonna pay for the outrageous cost of covering someone with pre-existing conditions.

46:21 And what happened to HMOs, John? Wasn't that kind of a groovy system? Am I crazy? Well, they're still around. But isn't the whole idea of an HMO a health, was it health maintenance organization or? Yeah, or health management. Health management. Wasn't the idea is that you had a group of doctors and hospitals and, you know, essentially, you know, they they have their fees set and you know, you can't go to any doctor you want but supposedly you can go to good doctors who are at these HMOs and you pay a set fee. Well Kaiser Permanente seems to be the dominant player still in that arena.

46:59 And is that, I don't know, just sound, you know, back in the day you had to go to the doctor on Main Street and you only had one doctor, you had no choice, and you brought him a chicken. You know, the problem, yeah, but here's what's always, here's the elephant in the room that people keep not wanting to discuss, even though they keep bringing it up in Congress. I mean, if you've been listening to C-SPAN over the past few days, is where is this all tort reform? It's all, you know, the thing that's killing the health care system and the Democrats will do nothing about it. And, you know, John Edwards made himself a multimillionaire out of this. And somebody, the Tennessee representative Roe, who is an M.D., gave testimony over the last week discussing the fact that, you know, they have these huge lawsuits where some woman had, you know, had her arm, you know, she took her arm off instead of her appendix.

47:54 and they give her a hundred million dollars, you know, because it's, you know, a hundred million dollars and that's 40% of it. So she, you know, I take it back that your screw ups on the executive producers is nothing compared to that. It's not like you can always say to me, Adam, it's not like taking someone's arm off instead of their appendix. So they would sue, but the lawsuit is so over the top, I mean it's so unbelievable that it's become a huge burden for doctors and Rowe testified that he was a pediatrician. He says it's almost impossible to become a pediatrician nowadays because of the legal implications. Somebody has a child with a birth defect and you get sued.

48:37 So you're saying... Somebody has a child with a missing thumb and you get sued. So let me break it down. So what you're saying is the reason why health care is, health care not insurance, but health care is so expensive is because they have to pad their bank accounts and pay high premiums for insurance against these outrageous lawsuits. Yeah. Yeah, but this is this is called and they keep bringing it up as tort reform, but the Democrats who are highly financed by trial lawyers who make tons of money off of this crap, they refuse to throw this in the bill. And so that's escalating costs aren't going to stop somewhere. We have somewhere went incredibly wrong. And my ex-wife was like this.

49:15 It was always like, I have a right, you know, and I have a right to be safe for everything and we'll sue the cops if this happens and we'll sue the airlines if that happens and we'll sue the railroad if this happens and we'll sue and we'll sue and we'll sue and we'll sue. Somewhere something happened where we have this belief all of a sudden that we have a right to entire cocoon safety in the world and it's just not the way it is and you fall in your bathroom. I'll sue the you know bed bath and beyond. It's like it's crazy. We don't there is no safety. Well the problem is that you have it by the way this is people make mistakes by the way oops. Yeah

49:54 Yeah, sometimes really big ones. and they have the soft story and yeah, well you have nothing but sympathy for someone who had their arm taken off and so and then they paint the insurance companies and the medical guys and everybody's these great evil beings and the next thing you know you get these judgments that are unbelievable and this is the problem then they nobody wants to do anything about it because it's a money machine and uh you know that's it's the democrats aren't saying anything about it

50:36 it. And all they're doing is just this phony baloney health care bill. You might want to play young from Alaska, who, who I think gave at least a highly amusing presentation the day before yesterday, I think, in Congress. I'm listening to this debate and ready to come to the floor if it doesn't consider Alaska, but this also affects Alaska. I'm one who believes in health reform. But anybody can tell me on that side of the aisle with 2,700 pages and they say the new one is not quite that long, it's 2,000 pages. And what's in the bill? They forget to say that there's 160 new grant programs that have never existed before. There is 110 new agencies, Mr. and Mrs. America, that can issue regulations. There's 13 health czars, we're making them legal under this bill. And the big thing, there's about

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Representative Don Young, Congressional Gobbledygook, and IRS Agents

Representative Don Young of Alaska is featured in a C-SPAN clip reading complex and confusing excerpts from the 2,700-page healthcare bill. Young highlights the creation of 160 new grant programs, 110 new agencies, and 13 "health czars." The hosts also discuss reports of the IRS hiring 16,000 new agents and ordering shotguns to enforce the new healthcare mandates.

don young· alaska· healthcare bill· irs· bureaucracy· c-span

49:54 Yeah, sometimes really big ones. and they have the soft story and yeah, well you have nothing but sympathy for someone who had their arm taken off and so and then they paint the insurance companies and the medical guys and everybody's these great evil beings and the next thing you know you get these judgments that are unbelievable and this is the problem then they nobody wants to do anything about it because it's a money machine and uh you know that's it's the democrats aren't saying anything about it

50:36 it. And all they're doing is just this phony baloney health care bill. You might want to play young from Alaska, who, who I think gave at least a highly amusing presentation the day before yesterday, I think, in Congress. I'm listening to this debate and ready to come to the floor if it doesn't consider Alaska, but this also affects Alaska. I'm one who believes in health reform. But anybody can tell me on that side of the aisle with 2,700 pages and they say the new one is not quite that long, it's 2,000 pages. And what's in the bill? They forget to say that there's 160 new grant programs that have never existed before. There is 110 new agencies, Mr. and Mrs. America, that can issue regulations. There's 13 health czars, we're making them legal under this bill. And the big thing, there's about

51:37 1,200 pages of gobbly gook. And I call it gobbly gook. I read one on the floor the other day. But this is on page 1181, a new one. In general, subject to the succeeding provision of this subtitle in the case of affordable credit eligible individual enrolled in the exchange participating health benefits plan, one, the individual shall be eligible for, in accordance with this subtitle, affordable credits consisting of A, affordable premium credit under section 243 to be applied against the premium for the exchange participating health benefits plan in which the individual is enrolled and b, affordable cost sharing credit under section 244 to be applied as a reduction of the cost sharing otherwise appreciable program and plan and two, the commissioner shall pay the QHB

52:25 Oops, I just died before I could figure out what I could do. I'm sorry. So I am yeah, but anyway he goes on it is an interesting complaint the only thing he didn't bring up is the 16,000 new IRS agents I know and and as we know They've ordered shotguns Right IRS agents with shotguns to make sure that everybody pays our dues. Yes signed up and on board with the program

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony, Episode 184

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for high-level donors William Arcand, John Aaron, and Rob Seelock. William Arcand is named a "Black Knight" for a delayed recognition, while John Aaron is honored for donating money originally intended for a new television. The segment reinforces the "Value for Value" model, where listeners who contribute $1,000 or more are granted titles within the No Agenda Round Table.

william arcand· john aaron· rob seelock· knighthood· no agenda· donations

53:10 John, let's continue this conversation in a moment. I'd like to do our knighthoods so we can continue without having to break down and stop because it is time to do the new knighthoods for this week. Yeah, we got one black knight and two, well actually two black knights and a regular knight. Now Black Knight is someone who we didn't knight at the time that they were supposed to be knighted. And that's William Arcand? William Arcand of Dracut or Dracut, sorry. I have a special Black Knight sound effect here. In gratitude for your faithful servos, I shall knight thee, your most gracious majesty.

53:54 Yes. William Arcand, John Aaron, who's now listening to us rather than watching his new TV, in Broomfield, Colorado. And that's J-O-N, by the way. Rob Seelock, our friend in what he calls the oil capital of North America, Calgary. Let's do William Arkan first because he is the Black Knight and we're a little bit remiss that we missed him. Of course, it does get a much more cooler title.

54:32 William Arcand, I hereby knight thee, Sir William! Black Knight of the No Agenda Round Table. Please, sit down, have a seat at the ever-growing disc. Disc. Sit down. We've got a ceremony. Well, I can, yeah, when I do that I have this envision of a big round disc table, a wooden table, and there's mutton. And we're eating, uh, you know, big turkey legs with our hands. And who's at the head of the table, by the way? Well, that would be our next knight, John. John Aaron, please kneel before us. As you have disregarded the evil television, I now knight thee Sir John of the No Agenda Knights Roundtable.

55:26 And then our final knight, and it's nice to have a knight up in Canada. Yeah, an oil knight. An oil knight, yes, very good. Rob Seelock, kneel before us. Do you solemnly take the oath to take umbrage when shysters show up? Then I hereby knight thee, Sir Rob, knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please, all of you, enjoy our hookers and blow. And if you want to become a Knight of the NOA Agenda Roundtable, which will include retroactively for these new Knights as well, a NOA Agenda Knight Ring, which is probably the only premium we're actually going to do. So you also have the virtual patch. Yeah, that's true. We're close to cut off on that.

56:15 The support amount, the support level is $1,000. Interestingly enough, John went over that by $24, correct? Yeah, but 1024 is a famous computer number. It's a magic number, actually. Yeah. It's a magic number. Next coming, 768. Yeah, or 640. 640K. And if you want to have memory for anybody that's right So that's how you become a knight of the no agenda roundtable it has some very first of all you're a member of an elite club and The Knights are communicating with each other there are you know inter night? communication channels as well as Well, we basically we we jump in for you whenever you need us We've made phone calls for nights, and we've done all kinds of things and

57:11 And that type of support for this program is absolutely necessary. As we started the show out, it is unbelievable what media has become. I'm so happy that John basically said, screw it, I'm not buying a TV, I'm supporting these guys. And you probably got off cheap if you wanted a decent television. But you can't, it's unwatchable. It's just absolutely unwatchable. And you think that you're like, oh, I'm just gonna take a little break here. Yeah, then you're stuck. Yeah, and it's all kinds of, I mean, the craziest one, the Dairy Queen where they have a red female lip mouth with a male voice is very confusing. It's very twisted. Sounds disturbing. Yeah, the panda bear snorkeling with a shark coming up to them and then they're selling chestnut

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

Media Psychology, The Art of the Tease, and Advertising Tactics

Drawing on Adam Curry's experience at MTV and John Dvorak's time at PC Magazine, the hosts explain how mainstream media uses "the tease" to keep audiences engaged through commercial breaks. They discuss behavioral studies and eye-tracking technology used to optimize advertising placement. They contrast this with their own ad-free format, which they claim allows for more honest and uninterrupted analysis.

mtv· viacom· advertising· behavioral study· eye tracking· npr

58:04 Shrimp. It's just bad. It's really bad. And even the national treasure such as NPR, just pay attention to what they're doing. Pay attention. That means spend some of your mind span on watching what they're doing. It's filled with advertising. And therefore, they cannot be honest about all of their fantastic reporting. I'm not saying that they don't do some. But they can never be 100% honest because it will go right against their business model. And it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. And I think that what we're doing here is... Let me throw another one out there, why we're doing it this way. I was watching the... We got bills to pay? Is that enough for you? Besides the fact that we have bills to pay, yes. But we could do the commercial approach too and that would pay bills. But Thom Hartmann, I watch his show occasionally. Ah, Thom, yes. Who's the left-wing version of...

59:04 Hannity maybe and he goes and I've heard him get into a really good debate with somebody and somebody's going back and forth and back and forth and he said and just as the thing is getting interesting he says oh well we had a heartbreak right now I got we got to take a break I will be right back right after this and then they cut off the discussion and the next thing you know he's back with somebody else I mean This soundbite-oriented approach to media really doesn't work in an environment like we have nowadays. It's just unnerving. I mean, you say the same thing when you listen to one of the talk show guys on the radio, which is the same ratio, two minutes of a talk to one minute of advertising. They get into a role or something, or they get something they want to say, and unless they step all over their advertisers, they can't

59:53 they can't continue. They have to, and then you have to take a break. You get out of the mood, you know, the whole, you know, you, whatever messages that you were receiving. And by the way, one of the things you, uh, that is advertisers love it. In fact if you can get the listener or the reader into a receptive mood Yes, exactly. You are so in tune you are so open to information and the end your brain is wide open It's like a funnel and then all of a sudden what and then you get the Dairy Queen the male female mouth talking to it like a guy So in other words when Adam and I are breaking down some story and we're maybe

1:00:29 giving you a point of revelation where you're realizing that there's more to it than the surface. And then you start, it opens you up to thinking about things slightly differently. We don't want to put a commercial in there because that basically is exploiting the moment. And that's one of the real problems with commercial broadcasting. And it's not just commercial broadcasting. It's all, and anything that's, it's basically mainstream. Yeah, mainstream media particularly uses that method, technique. I, you know, when I'm at PC Magazine... We actually analyzed this one the magazine was huge and thick and they would you would essentially create an environment of openness because he would be a lot of new information and as that new information was flowing to everybody and they were learning things and their mind was adapting itself for learning because there's a lot to learn especially in the early days of computing. That's the time you can really pound them with advertising because you can get people

1:01:27 You know, they're in the learning mode, so the next thing you know, they're reading advertising as though it was, you know, gospel that they're learning. It's really, we can never do this show and we never will do this show commercially. This has to be done with donations. At MTV, we actually had a coach come in, and this is early days MTV, when it was no longer owned by Time Warner. No, it was Viacom. The coach would come in and help us with the art of the tease and the idea was to of course That's the way it was sold to us But I think the true the true meaning was something else what we're just talking about is to get people to come to stay with the entire Commercial which is the real programming of course to stay with all the commercials to wait to come back for the big reveal This isn't you know what the cliffhangers are about. This is oh my I was watching a minute to win it and

1:02:18 Which is this, have you seen this show? No, I've never heard of it. It's actually a pretty good idea. It's basically pub games where you know, you have to do all kinds of wacky things you might do in the pub in England. Even, you know, I think it must be a British format. And then, you know, will he make it? Will he be able to blow all of the cards off of the bottleneck except for the Joker? Oh! Oh! And right at the reveal, of course, they break away to commercial. You know, but we actually train we were trained we were trained to do that and and the training was not to like ooh Let's watch more music videos. You know, what could could it be new kids on the block at number one again? No, no one gives a crap about that at Viacom They want to make sure you see all the Skittles commercials in the meantime You know what really annoys me more than you know doing something like that on MTV is the fact that the news providers do that

1:03:10 So you're watching the 6 o'clock news and they say, what new product could kill you? And then they come back and they don't tell you. They put it off. After this break, we're going to tell you what that product is that could kill you. Yeah, yeah. They do another one. And then Meet the Press is good too. Near the end there, they always have like, we'll be right back. And then they come and then David Gregory comes on like, and we'll be right back. It comes back in between commercials. They do that on a lot of shows now, even Letterman does that where they take a break and they get your five commercials in and then they come back with just nothing. Just a, hi, we're back and we're gonna go back to commercials and they go cut back to the commercial. There must be something, there must be some either somebody studied it and they decided that people, they can only put up with so many commercials in a row before they're like brought back to reality with a little blip in the middle. Because I mean MSNBC does this constantly. Oh yeah, they study this all the time.

1:04:07 Hundreds of millions invested in this type of study and behavioral study I know because I've been they they know exactly what your what your eyes are focusing on on the screen This is actually Dutch technology They know where your eyes are looking in the you know, cuz you're not always looking at the at the you know at the whole screen In fact, you're rarely looking at the whole screen. You're looking at bits and bobs That's why these crawls down at the bottom like all the news channels do all men you've you don't think you're not reading that and That information is absolutely getting into your brain, but you're focusing on something else like the hot chick anyway So we we spend a lot of time In in preparing these programs. We're on the and against better judgment. We're on the phone with each other a lot Too much to yeah way too much and let me tell you think John's grouchy now talk to him off the air. I

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

Producer Credits, Listener Comments, and Douchebag Call-outs

The hosts read a list of producers who donated between $50 and $165, sharing various comments and "douchebag" call-outs from the audience. Notable mentions include Vjay Kauropati, a student who identified the largest four-digit prime number, and Avery Lee, who claimed the entire state of Wyoming consists of "douchebags." The segment serves as a community update and acknowledgment of the show's diverse donor base.

vjay kauropati· ryan lee· avery lee· wyoming· donations· comments

1:05:05 And all we want is to provide you some value if you think that we've provided you with something that has made you think differently, look at the news differently, look at the world around you differently, then please support us so we can continue to do this and bring you more. More depressing news. No, it's not all depressing. But sometimes we have a list where somebody bails out on us. They say they can't take it anymore. Yeah, we yeah, and I think that's a lot of what I'm gonna do on the daily source code is help people to put that into perspective It'll be the antidote the antidote for no agenda depression

1:05:48 Anyway, who has been kind enough to help us? I know. Who has been kind enough to help us and support us this week, John? Well, we have a lot of 55 cans. And let me just read the people from $50 to 99 just as a unit. John Kelly, George Durhurst, Tom Hickey, Chris Moore, Mark Vandenberg, Brad Menike, Theodore Thomas, Matthew Morgan, Anthony Formusa. Nicholas Wallace, Brett Farrell, Scott Lohan, Vernon White, Avery Lee, Frank Agenstadt, I think. Uwe Huseman, you have to pronounce that. Yeah, you gotta spell it for me. U-W-E. Uwe. Uwe Huseman, H-U-S-E-M-A-N-N.

1:06:37 Who's HUS or HUS? HUS is on here. Hussmann. Hussmann. Hussmann. Uwe. Uwe. He's from Germany probably. Uwe, yeah he's a good guy. Christopher Grimm, Salvatore Barrera. And then we have a couple people who need some special mentioning. Common Sense Enterprises, Tampa, Florida gave us $100. VJ, now this is an interesting one, this is 9973, he's a student Indian. 9973, by the way, is the largest four digit prime number. Wait a minute, I thought that the prime numbers were infinite, that you couldn't actually stop.

1:07:19 This is a large sport digit. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry And he and he's a student he says he's wants to be the youngest contributor and he admits that the Indians are cheap Tell us something we don't know the only Indian who is not cheap is Vivek Kundra cuz he spends like it's nobody's business VG anyways last name is Karate and I think it's pronounced caught up party so So it's Vijay Kaurapati, and I asked him for a pronunciation, but he said, Kaurapati sounds Indian to me. William Hyatt, Springdale, Arkansas, $110.20.

1:08:05 Dennis Cruz out of Beaverton 165 33 and I do have some comments of various people wrote in and I tried to summarize because we're getting our comments sheet by the way is getting yeah, we could do a whole show just on comments Yeah, but Christopher grew and all those Christopher Graham is 21 years old and he thinks he's gonna be the youngest contributor And he's a student Salvatore Barrera in Quebec. He says the show is too long so I said okay and Don Carlin wants us to plug the pod show called Common Sense. Avery Lee is calling out the entire state of Wyoming as douchebags. I wasn't ready for that. The whole state is a douchebag? That's what he says. Oh man. And he says, he's harsh. He knows he's the only one who's ever donated from Wyoming. That's quite possible. The Wyoming's got like a population of 30.

1:09:05 Sam Vanderplank, who... Vanderplank. Vanderplank, one of our regulars. He wants us to plug noagendapdfs.com, which are apparently a PDFs backup of the show notes. Sefer Aman, he broke up with his girlfriend during spring break and he gave us the money. Oh nice! How much was that? He's at $55.10 I believe. Ah, he had a cheap girlfriend. He is the one of the... he's the third guy I believe broke up with their girlfriend and gave us the money. I would like to see maybe some, well anyway, Michael Rice wants us to plug the Opera Now podcast.com, and we forgot to mention him before, and he's been hounding me relentlessly on Twitter. And then we keep forgetting, it's a ridiculous one. It just keeps, by the way, I keep telling people it's first in, you know, last in, first out. It's a problem. Ryan Lee calls out Justin at Moorhead State.

1:10:08 as a as a douchebag. Now, the funny thing is, is that the two people that call out douchebags both in this week, we're both last name was Lee. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Douchebag Lees. Brian Morris calls out Sean Petroic. as a douchebag. Douchebag! Spending all his money on guns. Well I take that back. I like that guy. I was gonna say, it's a cause. I don't think we should call him a douchebag. And people if you're in Ohio you might want to look up Second Mile Productions. It's spelled with a 2NDMileProductions.com. The guy does wedding movies that are absolutely fantastic. And that's pretty much it for this week.

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Media Licensing, ACTA, and the Decline of the Brussels Press Corps

The hosts discuss the potential for future government licensing of bloggers and independent media through initiatives like ACTA. They cite an EU Observer article reporting a decline in the Brussels press corps, as news organizations increasingly rely on pre-packaged electronic press kits from the European Union. They argue this trend leads to a "Ministry of Truth" scenario where government-produced content is republished as independent news.

acta· brussels· journalism· eu observer· ministry of truth· licensing

1:10:58 Wow, okay So it's obvious then if that's it we need your support We want to move to this full-time. You still have three other jobs John 50 We got to make ends meet But we are we are holding true to some of our promises here and we are absolutely giving you providing as much value as possible with the time a lot of that you basically purchased for us. Daily source code back now and was is now a part of the noagendastream.com so we'd appreciate

1:11:37 Actually, I just appreciate you guys wanting that back and supporting the return of the program. And the way you can help us out is by going to noagendershow.com, click on the donate link or just go directly to dvorak.org slash NA or for those of you who can't get to that because of child pornography protection initiatives, go to channeldvorak.com slash NA And if you are going to donate a larger number, if you're going for a knighthood or one of our layaway plans, or if you're going to do $333.33 times three where we kick in the extra penny for your knighthood, please also consider signing up for one of our monthlies. Because that's really where the sustainable base will come from. And eventually,

1:12:25 Sometime in the future it could be enough. You know just for us to go on, but I think that's I think it's someday I also want to mention George Vanderhuis by the way, or if you got to mention that some time ago, but You know you mentioned that your child pornography as you know Because my site's named Dvorak Uncensored. Oh yeah. It gets banned in certain places. Russia, you can't get to me in Russia and parts of Southeast Asia. But even though there's never been a naked breast or any nudity whatsoever on this website, I'm gonna have to do something about it. No, and it's even worse. I mean, I'm really careful in the show notes. That's why I put everything under the elites.

1:13:10 Heading and I change titles of web pages because if you put your like pedophiles in government, you know, you know porn that stuff gets you the year blocked everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. You can't even report on the truth anymore. You can't even, and by the way, flip on the television and tell me you're going to find any of the information that we've been talking about, about the denoters that Tony Blair put out, about George Bush Sr., the CIA, mind control, child abuse, Boys Town.

1:13:46 Tell me you're gonna find that anywhere. Actually anything we discuss or analyze we actually orient it toward. We don't, you just don't get this kind of analysis anyplace because nobody else, they can't do it because they're commercially oriented. They can't, you won't be on the air for more than 10 minutes. You can only do this type of show the way we're doing it. Yeah, no, I was on the air for... It's not possible. I was on the air for about two months doing this in Gitmo Nation Lowlands and they not only took me off the air but they took down the station, the entire broadcast organization. The jazz station went down, everything went down. Boom.

1:14:21 No more financing. And you know, if you watched like the last law and order that we just listened to pieces of the Orient, you know, this idea of getting licensed to do blogging, people have suggested that. I mean, this actually what you're listening to now, this show, no agenda may actually be a short term phenomenon. It's possible. And so I would say that you want to support us while we can. There's no evidence of this happening tomorrow, but it's just I think long term. I think long term is exactly where it's going. Oh, they should be licensed. Yeah, this is what ACTA is about. This is what all of these initiatives are about to create control over the Internet. And here's an article from the EU Observer.

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Afghanistan Opium Trade, US Marine Protection, and Heroin Harvest

A New York Times report confirms that U.S. Marines in Marja, Afghanistan, are under orders to leave poppy fields intact to protect the livelihoods of local farmers. The hosts argue this validates their long-standing claim that the military surge was timed to protect the opium harvest. They suggest the drug trade is a primary reason for the U.S. presence in the region, with 90% of the world's opium now originating in Afghanistan.

afghanistan· marja· opium· poppies· stanley mcchrystal· heroin· new york times

1:15:09 The Brussels Press Corps, so this is the press corps that is supposed to be, and this is a very interesting article and it's so well spelled out, has been declining consistently month over month, year over year. In 2005, there were 1,031 journalists in Brussels, making it the largest foreign press corps in the world, which by the way, doesn't even seem that big. A thousand journalists? We have at least a thousand producers working, actually sending us links on a daily basis. Since then it's dropped steadily, now they're down to 860. The reason why, and this is where you've got to watch it, is the European Union literally floods their website, look at EU.int,

1:16:02 They flood it with video and audio and press releases and photographs and electronic press kits. And so what are all these certainly commercial news organizations do? It's like, well, hey, you know, they're doing all the work for us. This is great. We don't have to send someone there to do some actual reporting. We'll just sit at home and just be on the web and just copy what they write and copy it and use their electronic press kits. Yeah, well it's cheaper. Yeah, but of course it's cheaper, but this just goes to show you that the ministry of truth is being instituted right here. It's absolutely happening. There's just no one is reporting on this stuff because they're taking what the European Union puts out there as fact. Oh, well here's the story, here's the... And they hire talent to do like a news report.

1:17:00 And then they edit that together and said, here it is and you can use it. Yeah. And it's a good business. We'll even put your logo in there. It's a good business. Yeah. Unfortunately, it may not all be the truth. Yeah, yeah, nobody cares. Did you know that they wanted the truth? They did people would say something. Okay, so here here is the best article from the New York Times, which of course I ever since they got your age wrong. I don't trust him. Oops. Yeah, you're right. I'm actually younger than that. Yeah, that's right. Here's the article came out on the came out today or I guess last night should be in the Sunday New York Times. U.S. turns a blind eye to opium in Afghan town and there's a picture of U.S. Marines walking through a poppy field which they decided not to destroy and John we just have to go through this article for a moment.

1:18:00 Three or four people emailed this to me. Let me just go back to my assertion, which I think you're pretty much on board with, is that we are in Afghanistan for a number of reasons. One of them is for the poppy trade, is for heroin, which is being sent, and this has been documented, people have been killed over investigating this, which is being sent on military transport planes right back to the United States. Heroin is at an all-time low in price. It's a great cheap drug. but there's billions of dollars being made on it and I believe that a lot of what our service men and women are there for and certainly a lot of the consultants is to protect this trade. So here's the article. The effort to win over Afghans on former Taliban turf in Marja, remember this is the big surge. This is the center of it all. Which is where 70% of all, even more I think, of all poppy is cultivated.

1:18:59 has put American and NATO commanders in the unusual position of arguing against opium eradication. Oh, wait a minute! So we took over this town and now we're not going to get rid of the poppies. Now I wonder why. Well, from General Stanley A. McChrystal on down, the military's position is clear. US forces no longer eradicate, as one NATO official put it. Opium is the main livelihood of 60-70% of the farmers in Marja, yet like we didn't know that, which was seized from Taliban rebels in a major offensive last month. American Marines occupied the area are under orders to leave the farmers fields alone. Because of course, we don't want to take away their livelihood.

1:19:43 You're reading, you know, you're kind of reading, I mean, we've been six months ago, nine months ago, a year ago, we have already deconstructed the fact that this was going on. And now the New York Times has finally picked it up for some unknown reason. I think we should be looking at it as why this story is running in the first place. Well, I think I think what's maybe the answer is here. Because we were a little bit off on our timing. Now, when the 30,000 troops were approved by the president, the first thing we said was, yeah, it's time for the harvest. So we need to protect and we need some extra farm hands.

1:20:26 And here in the New York Times, there is little time left to find an answer. Two-thirds of marja fields are now blooming with tall red poppies and the forthcoming harvest would provide work for thousands of Afghans from outside the area because it is so labor intensive. I can't believe they're running this story. Yes, now tell me we aren't right. This is exactly what we said. The harvest is coming. We need to have the troops over there. They telegraphed the surge. They said, we're coming, we're coming, we're coming to help you with the harvest. And there it is. It's now in the New York Times. It gets better.

1:21:03 Helmand, the Helmand province produces more than half of Afghanistan's opium harvest with 22% of its arable land devoted to poppies. Even after, this is great, even after Governor Mangal's forces eradicated a third of the crop last year, his province was awarded a $10 million Good Performers Initiative grant by the American embassy. What the hell is that? A Good Performers Initiative grant of 10 million dollars? Yeah, it's 10 million dollars for whatever the hell it is. Oh my god. Afghanistan now produces 90% of the world's opium and one way or another, the opium trade supports an estimated 1.4 million households in the country which has a population of 25 million to 30 million. It also provides enormous amounts of money to the Taliban. So anyway, so now they're fighting each other.

1:21:55 So one half is like, well, you know, of course we can't really have the poppies going because that's like making heroin and, you know, the heroin's killing people in our country. And on the other hand, you know, we can't be like helping the Taliban make money. So I'm guessing by the way that the part that was burned was Taliban heroin or Taliban opium. Right. And then they left, they didn't burn down all the fields, they're standing right in front of one of them. They just burned down some of them which are probably the ones that Taliban were collecting. Yeah, and they kept their own. Yes, it's called protecting your turf. It's very normal. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

HAARP, Earthquake Conspiracy Theories, and Claudia von Werlhof

Professor Claudia von Werlhof of the University of Innsbruck has publicly accused the U.S. of using the HAARP array in Alaska to intentionally trigger the January earthquake in Haiti. While her colleagues have dismissed the claims as unscientific, the hosts discuss her background as a serious academic. They also note recent volcanic activity in Iceland and suggest a possible link to Iceland's refusal to repay Dutch and British banks.

haarp· claudia von werlhof· haiti· earthquake· iceland· university of innsbruck

1:22:37 And just to, I'm not going to say all of these are machine generated. I'd just like to give you a little earthquake report for a moment here. And by the way, a scientist from Innsbruck, Australia, just to show you that I'm not the only kook out there. Innsbruck political scientist Claudia von Werloff has accused the USA of being behind the Haitian earthquake in January. It emerged on Tuesday. According to a report, which I have linked here, Werloff said that machines at a military research center in Alaska used to detect deposits of crude oil by causing artificial earthquakes, which is what HAARP is all about,

1:23:18 might have been intentionally set off to cause the Haitian earthquake and enable the USA to send 10,000 soldiers into the country, which actually I think is closer to 20 now. Ferdinand Kahlhofer, the head of the Innsbruck Political Science Institute, where von Werloff works, has slammed her comments. He says, such conspiracy theory has no scientific basis. Her claim would damage the reputation of the institute abroad. But this is interesting because if you look at her bio, and I have it linked here, hold on a second. She's no slouch. Professor of Women's Studies at the Institute of Political Science, University of Innsbruck, works about this and... studied economic sociology in Cologne and Hamburg, followed a doctoral fellowship in Central America, assistant lecturer at Sciences University of Frankfurt. I mean she's done a lot of stuff.

1:24:13 She's not just your run-of-the-mill kook. Yeah, she's not like us. Yeah, exactly. That's why I bring it up. So I give myself a little more credit here. So here's what we've seen. volcano erupted in Iceland last night. Oh, the one over by a Westman Island? Which one? The old classic? Yeah, I think it's the old classic and now everyone's worried about it. And of course, Iceland right now. I mean, you know, you may say it could be coincidence. Coincidence? I think not! But Iceland says, hey, we're not going to pay you Dutch and British back for the commercial banks. We're not going to do that. Oh, no? Well, let's show you what some fire looks like, bitches.

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Tsunami Response Exercise, Virtual Earthquake, and NOAA Website

The hosts discuss an upcoming Tsunami Response Exercise scheduled for March 24, 2010, which will simulate a 9.0 magnitude earthquake in Alaska. They mock the NOAA website's "virtual earthquake" feature, which simply shakes the user's browser window using JavaScript. They express suspicion regarding the timing of such exercises, noting that real disasters often coincide with simulated drills.

noaa· tsunami· alaska· earthquake exercise· virtual earthquake· website

1:24:52 Reykjavik volcano erupted near a glacier in southern Iceland. That's the one the Eyjafjallajokull volcano? I don't know. I don't know the name of it. Anyway, so people are worried that the... I had to look on the map. ...that a big eruption is coming. Then we have... let's see... oh this was nice. The 5.6 magnitude quake right near Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. That's an interesting one. Yeah, I guess. So they could shuffle things around. 5.6. I mean, that's not even an earthquake. But here's the here's the thing that I like the most. Now, of course, we know now my assertion is that the United States is not the only one with a with a harp array with an earthquake machine. There's a lot of there's a lot of switch flicking going on. It's like, oh, yeah. Hey, you watch this. Oh, yeah. It's like rock and sock and robots like, you know, hey, let me watch. Hey.

1:25:47 Oh, you don't think we can't mess with LA? Watch this. We'll give you 4.4 there. So now, of course... LA has earthquakes constantly. Shut up. Yeah, sure it does. They're all over the place. Just coincidentally, it's all happening now. Here's the point. This is a news report because of course we know where this harp array is located. So it's not very hard to predict that the Chinese or someone else is eventually going to zap Alaska. And with deadly earthquakes hitting around the world, many are wondering could a massive quake strike Alaska? And if so, when? As CBS 11's Andrea Gusty tells us, another quake just as bad, if not worse, is in store for our state. What? Haiti, Chile, Japan all had massive earthquakes within the last few months, leaving hundreds dead and thousands more homeless.

1:26:39 Experts say we need to be ready to brace for much worse. Just listing the magnitude 8 and higher quakes that we've had here in Alaska. This is Bill Knight from the Tsunami Warning Center. On average, looking back to about the year 1899, they occur once every 15 years. So that means we're due. Well, you could look at it that way. The 1964 Good Friday quake... The 19- so then bring a couple things into this. The 1964 Good Friday quake, which I guess we're coming up on Good Friday. So they're saying, well it's about time for a new one. Yeah, duh, you keep flipping on the Alaska Harp Array, of course they're gonna try and zap you out of the water. This is, so the guy you just heard talking is from the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Information Center, which I'd never heard of. I'd never heard of a tsunami before 2004. It used to be called something else, I guess. So they've got a website up.

1:27:37 And so there's a guy who just said, oh yeah, well we're due for one, it could be pretty big and we could have a huge tsunami, we all can die. And it turns out they have an exercise on March 24th. Oh, the exercise is always bad news. Oh yeah, the Tsunami Response Exercise, March 24th, 2010. And... It's a couple of days from now. They have, yeah, it is a couple of days from now. Where's the exercise gonna be? Well there's a whole PDF which I read through last night which was kind of interesting because they even have a subsection there that says what we do so you know they have all the codes and how it's like a tabletop exercise etc and they're going to simulate a magnitude 9.0 earthquake generated south of the Alaska Peninsula which they say of course you know could

1:28:29 could fire off all kinds of tsunamis all the way to the west coast of California, everything. But they even have a subsection in there that says what happens, what to do if an actual earthquake strikes during the exercise, which I thought was kind of interesting. Wow! Yeah. Yeah, but then I want you to take a look at this site, John, because this will make you laugh to no end. For those of you online, I'm going to paste this in the chat room right now, because you get a laugh out of what jabronis these guys are. It's WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV. It's a pretty sad site, but it's kind of what the NOAA sites look like.

1:29:14 And you got the site up, John? Yeah. Okay, so you see there, Tsunami Response Exercise March 24th, and it has new tsunami videos. Now, here's the kicker. The link there that says, click on the virtual earthquake to experience a virtual earthquake. Click on that link, John, and be prepared. I'm not seeing that link. Down below, at the bottom of the page. I got new tsunami videos. Underneath that, keep going down. Click on virtual earthquake to experience- Are you ready? Wait, are you sitting down? Give me a countdown. Okay. Are you ready for the virtual earthquake, John? It's been nice knowing ya. Hit it. It says waiting. Waiting for earthquake. What? There it is. What is this? There's a bunch of photos. What? It didn't- It didn't- It should happen now. Is it doing the browser shake?

1:30:18 No, it's not doing anything. You're kidding me. No. Oh, well, all I have is a picture of a cracked earth. Yeah. And then what happened? Oh, you have to hit. It says click me, John. Oh, geez. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. They show you a picture of a cracked earth, you click on ClickMe, it does one of those browser shakes. Yeah, some JavaScript thing. Are these guys out of their mind? How is that? That is about as lame as anything I've ever seen on the internet. Coming from a government site. And how is that a virtual earthquake? It's a virtual like something's wrong with your monitor. It's completely stupid is what it is. That is bad.

1:31:02 Okay, I think that's the day you win this week. Yeah, I won last week. I'm gonna have that piece of crap anyway Okay, well we'll keep an eye out so by next Thursday we should have something that should have happened. But then the best quote of the week Now you know about the Louisiana purchase, right? Yeah, the one for the health care. Right. The bribes. So I guess it's on Fox Some douchebag is interviewing the president. And then listen to what the president says about the Louisiana purchase. This is very interesting.

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

Obama's Louisiana Purchase Slip, Red Cross Haiti Funds, and Papal Immunity

President Obama is criticized for a slip of the tongue where he appeared to confuse the "Louisiana Purchase" (a healthcare bribe) with Haiti. The hosts also discuss the Red Cross's admission that it has only spent $80 million of the $255 million raised for Haiti relief. Additionally, they report that the U.S. government has suggested Pope Benedict XVI should be granted immunity from lawsuits related to the clergy abuse scandal.

barack obama· red cross· haiti· pope benedict xvi· immunity· george w. bush

1:30:18 No, it's not doing anything. You're kidding me. No. Oh, well, all I have is a picture of a cracked earth. Yeah. And then what happened? Oh, you have to hit. It says click me, John. Oh, geez. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. They show you a picture of a cracked earth, you click on ClickMe, it does one of those browser shakes. Yeah, some JavaScript thing. Are these guys out of their mind? How is that? That is about as lame as anything I've ever seen on the internet. Coming from a government site. And how is that a virtual earthquake? It's a virtual like something's wrong with your monitor. It's completely stupid is what it is. That is bad.

1:31:02 Okay, I think that's the day you win this week. Yeah, I won last week. I'm gonna have that piece of crap anyway Okay, well we'll keep an eye out so by next Thursday we should have something that should have happened. But then the best quote of the week Now you know about the Louisiana purchase, right? Yeah, the one for the health care. Right. The bribes. So I guess it's on Fox Some douchebag is interviewing the president. And then listen to what the president says about the Louisiana purchase. This is very interesting.

1:31:42 Hold on a second. Hold on a second, Brett. That also, I'm giving you an example of one that I consider important. It also affects Hawaii, which went through an earthquake. So that's not just a Louisiana. Yeah, we had this before. But wait a minute. It's just a slip of the tongue. What did he mean to say, Haiti? Yeah. Really? Yeah. So how does the health care help Haiti? Do you tell me? I think that's the more interesting challenge to the deconstruction of that comment. That's weird. By the way, all of these videos you can find at noagendatv.com. I promised to give a plug.

1:32:30 Because a guy does a lot of work and he puts all of these videos that are in the show notes He puts them into one place. You can basically have your own personal television play out of your own personal depressing channel of amazing crap that you just can't believe it so the Red Cross Just while we're on Haiti for a second, then I'll shut up because you got some clips They've announced very proud they collected two hundred and fifty five million dollars for Haiti relief effort and But they only spent $80 million of it. And you know why, John? Because Clinton needed a new pair of shoes. According to the website for the Red Cross, on those rare occasions when donations exceed Red Cross expenses... Wait, let me finish the quote. Go on. Exceed Red Cross expenses for a specific disaster, contributions are used to prepare for and serve victims of other disasters.

1:33:27 You know, since the Loma Prieta earthquake here in the California area, which is in 86 or 89, I can't remember which, and even before that, the Red Cross has been pulling this crap from the get-go. And they've always, that comment that they just made there, I have heard that comment for over 25 years. And nobody seems to remember it. I mean, that's why I was upset when you started saying it, because I said, oh man, I've heard this a million times. That's why you've got to give your money to people like, you know, doctors without borders and and other, you know, legitimate or the Red Cross is not illegitimate, but they have a big slush fund and you give them money. It's not going necessarily where you want it to go. Just from from Eric, he picked something up here. George W. Bush in a

1:34:22 The US government has told the Texas court Pope Benedict XVI should be given immunity from a lawsuit accusing him of conspiring to cover up the sexual molestation of three boys. I guess George Bush helped the Pope get immunity. Anyway, make sense. Yeah, they're all in it together. Immunity. Yeah, you know what? Pedophile government. Make me sick, all of you. The Pope has his own country. He doesn't have to need immunity from anyone. Yeah, where you can screw boys legally if they're older than 12. It's disgusting. Ugh. All right, pick me up, John. So let's go change gears here since we're getting near the end. I want to have a couple quick comments. Oops. Yeah, I'm with you.

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

Bill Maher, Oxfam, and Sarah Palin's Audio Quality

The hosts critique Bill Maher for being unaware of Oxfam, a major international charity, during a recent broadcast. They also discuss a "clean water crisis" meme and mock the poor audio quality of Sarah Palin's satellite appearance on Hannity. Dvorak expresses frustration with the technical failures of high-budget networks like Fox News compared to independent productions.

bill maher· oxfam· sarah palin· hannity· fox news· clean water crisis

1:35:12 Oh, sorry. So I'm watching Bill Maher looking to get a clip. After we already debunked him having a laugh track, you're still watching that crap? Well, now I was listening to see what kind of laugh track he was going to use on this show. But here's the only thing that there's two things that I noticed. One is the up. We got to really get into this a little more, which is because this term came up. Clean water crisis. So we want to make sure that we start looking... Clean water crisis? Yeah, there's a clean water crisis. Yeah, the crisis is that there's 300 chemicals in our water including fluoride and other crap that is being put in it by our municipal water suppliers. Yeah, I don't think that's what they're talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

1:35:54 Now, here's the thing that got me, and this is the, I could have clipped it or whatever, in fact I should have, but I didn't bother. He brought some guy on, he has his extra guest when he does his little round table thing, and the guy starts talking about Oxfam, and Bill Maher is flabbergasted. He says, Oxfam, what's that? Oh, that's the huge UK-based- Huge, it's huge! Yeah. And I was stunned that Bill Maher, this erudite, universalist liberal, had never heard of one of the most liberal organizations in the world and one of the biggest, Oxfam. And he started mocking it as a stupid name. It was hilarious to watch. Really? Wow. Yeah. It was like completely out to lunch. It was hilarious. Oxfam also takes... I kind of like what they do. They take your old crap

1:36:46 And they have these shops and then you know poor people can go over and buy it for like a pound, you know? They're all over yeah, all over England anyway. So the other thing I thought was interesting that I observed, I was watching Hannity and you know they're trying to get Sarah Palin to be an analyst and she can't do it. It's just a bear. Do you have a death wish man? You know that's really bad for your health all this this crap you're watching. Bill Maher, Hannity. So they put Sarah Palin calling in from Alaska and she comes in, she does a bunch of cliches, you know, America's for the Americans, and all these kinds of things. But the thing is they're doing a satellite link or something and they have this huge, unbelievable echo and it sounds like she's not only in a bucket,

1:37:32 But she's getting a bucket with an echo box hook to it. So it's like, whoa. So they, so it just sounds like crap. And so they cut to a commercial. I figure, well, I hope they fixed that. They come back to her. They haven't fixed anything. It was like Fox. What are they paying these guys? Five bucks an hour at the Fox company there, you know, to be the engineers. It was unbelievable. Anyway, that was just a pet peeve of mine based on the fact that they have the money to spend. Alright, so Bill Maher. That was the end. That's all I had to say. I thought you had an audio clip you wanted to play. No, no, I said I would. Yeah, I do, but not Bill Maher. Let's play some other stuff. I've got a couple of things here that just a side note, a little lighter stuff. There was the television and radio correspondence dinner like last week. Oh, yeah.

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

Joe Biden vs. Barack Obama, Comedy Timing at Political Dinners

The hosts compare the comedic performances of Vice President Joe Biden and President Barack Obama at recent political dinners. They describe Biden's jokes as "lame" and "meandering," particularly his comments about housing construction in the Middle East. In contrast, they praise Obama's timing and professional writing, specifically his jokes regarding his Irish lineage and the history of Irish people in American politics.

joe biden· barack obama· st. patrick's day· political humor· chicago· middle east

1:38:21 Yeah, this is not the big one. There's nothing Washington White House Correspondents dinner This is the second rate one and so in this case it was on st. Patrick's Day in this case Obama went to talk to some Irishmen and Biden who seemed to me to be drunk It takes one to know one. Oh, yeah, and so he seemed to be drunk and he was like trying to be funny and then you can really see, because I have some Obama clips from the other event, you can really see the fact that Obite, or Obiden. Obiden, yes. Obiden is not funny. He needs a laugh track is what he needs. He needs a laugh track. But the curious thing was is that he had an interesting little remark at the very end of this commentary that I thought was, I hate to use the word telling, but it was very interesting when you hear it. You go, whoa. This is Obiden at dinner? Yeah. Thank you all very much. Thank you so much.

1:39:21 It's an honor to be here with you tonight. I just got back from five days in the Middle East. I love to travel, but it's great to be back in a place where a boom in housing construction is actually a good thing. All right, so that's a joke about the, about Israel building new houses in East Jerusalem? I guess, or you know. Yeah, all right. You know trying to negotiate who's attending this dinner Every but was a lot of people the place was packed and it's mostly all the TV people radio people This is their drinking club. It's like hey, thanks for being on board with the program Thanks for using our electronic press kits here have a great dinner and some great wine on us, and we're all buddies

1:40:15 and let's hang out and be cool together. We're ruling the world. I think a lot of the anchors and people like that would all be interested. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's like, hey, how you doing? Thanks for helping us out. You guys doing a great job. Great job, everybody. Right. It's like a developers conference. Well, that's what you just said is what relates to the final comment at the end, which I just thought was pretty funny. The lasting peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis is tough, but it was a hell of a nice break from health care. I understand Liz Cheney is in the house. I'm glad to see dad's doing well. Liz, I called her when her dad was in the hospital, but Liz, Liz has been on a tear leak. Now she's questioning if Tom Brady is a real patriot.

1:41:03 What the hell, it's worth a try guys. What? Where's the what? The tribe? No, he said what the hell, it's worth a try guys because he got no laughs from that stupid line. Let me help him out. Let me help him out. She's questioning if Tom Brady is a real patriot. What the hell, it's worth a try guys. By the way, happy St. Patrick's Day to all of you. You know, the truth is, The truth is, I can't believe I'm here with you guys tonight. Here I am, the first Irish Catholic Vice President in the history of the United States of America. Barack Obama, the first African American in the history of the United States of America. He's hosting a St. Patrick's Day dinner and I'm here with you all.

1:41:59 Go figure He's with my base I'm with it Unbelievable, I think you just nailed it. Oh It's a developers conference. I am with his yeah, no totally said developers conference That was really funny jar Yeah, thanks. So, so meanwhile, I want to... It's enough of that. So meanwhile, I want to contrast the one thing about Obama that I think we have to admit. He has an amazing, he could be a stand-up comic. And I presume that his material, see Biden probably wrote his own material because that's the kind of douchebag he is. I can handle this, I got my jokes. I know what's funny. But I think Obama has like some, like Aaron Sorkin, you know. He's got some writers. He's got some really good writers.

1:42:52 but he still delivers he delivers he'd absolutely delivers good timing the timing is good and so play obama dinner and then we'll play obama dinner too which is his you know two of his gags and you can compare them to biden's lame material someone actually discovered my irish lineage when i was running for president and uh... my first thought was uh... why didn't anybody discover this when i was running for office in chicago i don't understand that one Because there's a big Irish contingent in Chicago, he thinks. Chicago's known for its Polish, Jewish, and Black. Yeah, Polish in particular, and Norwegian even. Yeah, well, and there's a lot of Mexicans there now. But anyway, the... Ha, ha, ha. But he still got... But the timing was good, and this is... You can just hear the way he follows it up. Of course, you interrupted the gag, so timing is not what it would normally be.

1:43:48 but he follows it up with a kicker that is just extremely well timed. It's also a day to thank the Irish people for all that they've done for America. The truth is, they weren't always welcomed. There were times where the Irish were caricatured and stereotyped and cursed at and blamed for society's ills. So naturally it was a good fit for them to go into politics. That's pretty funny. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's it's it's it's well done compared to well, Biden's kind of meandering stumbling anyway. So that was what I wanted to play. Now, we do have a clip for the end of the show. I want to mention in advance. There's been this debate on the floor of Congress about the health care and the Democrats keep wanting to do these idiotic

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Rachel Maddow, ESPN Fishing Ban Story, and Legislative Weasel Words

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and correspondent Kent Jones are criticized for their "debunking" of a story regarding a potential federal ban on recreational fishing. The hosts parse the response from NOAA Chief Jane Lubchenco, noting her use of the phrase "blanket ban" as a weasel word that leaves room for localized restrictions. They argue that while the original ESPN blog post may have had errors, the government's intent to control water rights remains a concern.

rachel maddow· msnbc· espn· fishing ban· jane lubchenco· noaa

1:44:46 In the case of this one, it's Jackie Speer from California, who is... trying to name a post office in Ohio after some DMV employee who was also a community organizer and needs a post office named after him. And this goes on and on. And I want to play at the end of the show and people can listen to it then and see how crazy it is because people are debating health care and then she's trying to talk about this. It was absolutely astonishing to me. And the last little item I've got here, which is the

1:45:22 The MSNBC is particularly Rachel Maddow in this particular clip She has a giggle in there that is like whoa, this is right. You know I hate her. You know I hate her. Oh wait we have another Biden clip here John We have the Maddox thing, they went out, you know, the story we did a couple weeks back about the potential for a US fishers, people, you know. Yeah, the fishing ban. Yeah, well, you know, apparently ESPN, they got a lot of flack for bringing this up because nobody's actually signed anything. And it was just a speculative article this guy was writing based on what happened in Canada, which where they did ban certain kinds of hunting.

1:46:11 And so the MSNBC decides to, I guess Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing talkers got all over this. So she decides to bring out her hitman to do a piece blasting all the right-wingers who took this story seriously. Not even right-wingers, we took it as bullcrap. No, I still take it seriously and I'll tell you why after this little piece runs. But once you run the long, it's actually a little lengthy. You might want to interrupt it a couple of times. The MSNBC blast fishing story. Fish? I do not understand this person's sign. For clarification, I asked our contemporary angling correspondent Kent Jones to look into it. Kent, please help. I'll try, Rachel. You know, as conservatives keep proving over and over again, there's no conspiracy theory involving President Obama that's too far over the top. And this one?

1:47:02 This one is this big. You know, I have to interrupt right here. Just the whole fact that how often do you hear this now? People always say, oh, this conspiracy theory, it's it's it's rife now. It's almost becoming a new meme. Oh, conspiracy theory. Oh, that's just because it's conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy theory. The problem is that this term is being misused because a conspiracy theory implies a number of people working together to to get something to happen. And it has to be very secretive. And it's being yeah, you're right. I've had people say, you know, they'd say well the CEO of this company decides he's gonna fire everybody who's a Mexican and some would say, oh that's just a conspiracy theory. No it's not. You know if a CEO, one guy is gonna fire a bunch of, where's the conspiracy? You have to have two, three, 20 people involved. If one person's gonna do something, it's not a conspiracy under any circumstances. How can it be a conspiracy theory? Anyway.

1:47:59 So the conspiracy theory here, first of all, is the fact that the water rights of the entire United States are now pretty much being taken over by the government. And they own all water. All water. We've reported on that extensively. And Hillary Clinton is a big part of that, making the oceans no longer the people's property, but the property of the United Nations. Right. And by the way, we consist of 90% of water. Oh my god. There it is. Oh my god. I wasn't ready for it. Oh, let me do that again. Oh, well that scared me. That's too far over the top and this one is this big. Barack Obama wants to stop you.

1:48:50 from fishing. This fish story started with an ESPN outdoors column that said that the federal government had a strategy in the works that could prohibit US citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal waters, great lakes, and even inland waters. Swarm conservative media piranhas. Fresh blood! Gateway Pundit ran this headline, Obama's latest assault on freedom. New regulations will ban sport fishing. Adding, Barack Obama has a message for America's 60 million anglers. We don't need you. Red State gave us, Obama, the will of the people be damned. I'll decide who can go fishing. Michelle Malkin decided on, Obama's war on fishing?

1:49:35 Right on cue, Glenn Beck said this. I told you a year ago this would happen. I'm not some prophet by any stretch of the imaginations. People are losing their rights. Who's more important, the fish or you? Alert! Alert! Glenn Beck not a prophet. And Rush Limbaugh You know, what's interesting is they're not actually debunking the story.

1:50:16 They're just saying all these people who are saying this is true are idiots. I mean there's a minute left of this clip. Do they actually go into any proof that it's not true? They got the woman who's a head of this, whatever this part of the wildlife department or whatever to say something and that's where it gets interesting because you finish it off and you'll see. If only it were, you know, you know, true! The red-faced ESPN was forced to admit, quote, we made several errors in the editing and presentation of this installment. Oops! But the feeding frenzy was already in full swing, so much so that the administration had to go on a debunking mission to tell people what they were actually doing, which was drafting plans for a new ocean policy and marine planning system.

1:51:06 That's it. Dr. Jane Lubchenco, chief of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, had this to say to one jittery Republican congressman who asked about the ban on fishing at a hearing. We are not proposing any blanket ban on recreational fishing. I would strongly oppose that and that is not in the works. Got that? Undeterred, the Fox Nation website is still linking to the discredited... What is that? That has no background on any legislation. It's just some broad going, it ain't true.

1:51:42 That's not what she said, the thing that's interesting about that, if you parse it... Let me play it again. Let me play it again. You don't have to play it again, I actually have the clip separated out. Oh. I already rewound it, let me play it again. You're right. We are not proposing any blanket ban on recreational fishing. I would strongly oppose that and that is not in the works. Okay. She didn't say we're not gonna ban fishing. She says they're not gonna have a blanket ban. That means all fishing. I would strongly oppose that. I would strongly oppose banning all fishing for all time. We are not proposing any blanket ban on recreational fishing. I would strongly oppose that and that is not in the works.

1:52:31 So she slips in that little weasel word, blanket ban. I said there was not going to be a blanket ban. Oh, we're just going to ban fishing in this river and that river. No, we're going to ban fishing in Lake Michigan. We're going to ban fishing in Lake Ear. We're going to ban fishing on the Pacific coast. But that's not a blanket ban because you can still fish over here at Salt Lake. Here in this puddle. So there's no blanket ban. Now let's go to the other little error they threw in there. ESPN admitting that it made mistakes in editing and presentation. What their admission was, that the editing part is up for grabs. It was not presented as a blogger's opinion. This is a blogger.

1:53:11 And he may, and they apparently did not make it clear enough that this was a blog and not a news story, even though it appeared to me to be a blog. But I guess the public, you know, that was all pointed to it from, you know, the various right wingers that don't know what a blog is, you know, made the mistake of thinking this was a news story. And maybe MSNBC did too, thinking that was presented as such. I didn't think so. I thought it was a blog. I thought it was an interesting, position the guy took and he did it was extrapolating from what happened in Canada to what you know what new laws are gonna and they say there's gonna be a new some new law I forgot what it's called for waterways and so you know so this guy said here what's what's next fishing ban on fishing which we talked about so meanwhile MSNBC I guess got the word to like slam everybody who had anything to do with this and get it out off the front page

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

National Forest Service, Secret Surveillance Cameras, and Public Land

A report is discussed regarding a camper who discovered a hidden surveillance camera at a remote site on public land. The National Forest Service eventually admitted the camera belonged to them, stating they use various techniques to apprehend lawbreakers. The hosts express alarm at the increasing use of secret surveillance in nature and the lack of transparency regarding these law enforcement tactics.

national forest service· surveillance· hidden cameras· samsung· privacy· public land

1:54:01 And so now it's disappeared. But the fact of the matter is, as someone said, blanket ban. And I think there's something's up with this, with whatever they're up to here. I'm not sure what it is, but it doesn't look good. Well, there's a lot of weird stuff going on with public land. There's a good report here, I have links in the show notes, noagendashow.com, about the National Forest Service planting secret cameras around camping sites on basically public land, publicly owned land, and they're being real cagey about it.

1:54:37 and they're not admitting, well they're not even admitting they're doing it but this apparently this camper was out with his daughter or two daughters and he found a wire in the ground and it's like, and it's a really remote camping site and it led to a hidden camera and this camera which by the way is being sold as great for law enforcement with a flash drive recorder it's the PV 700 I think from Samsung So he started calling up Forest Service and said, yeah that's ours, bring it over here slave. And he starts, you know, starts asking around and you know, they email a statement like, our officers use a variety of techniques to apprehend individuals who break laws in the National Forest. So they've got cameras everywhere. Wow, if you see a camera, sounds like a nice cheap way to get a webcam.

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

TSA Full-Body Scanners, Radiation Risks, and Border Drones

The hosts discuss a security breach at LAX caused by a bottle of liquid medication and the subsequent promotion of full-body x-ray scanners. They raise concerns about the radiation exposure for both passengers and TSA agents, predicting future class-action lawsuits. Additionally, they mention Janet Napolitano's plan to deploy drones along the U.S. border, which they view as a precursor to armed domestic surveillance.

tsa· lax· x-ray· radiation· janet napolitano· drones· security breach

1:55:33 Good one, too. Yeah, geez that's pretty amazing to me. Yeah, well, that's part of our way things are going I want to do one more clip before we end the show which is a Brian Williams lax story This is a little lengthy. I don't want to play the whole thing, right? But I do want to mention that there seems to be a new trick. There's two pieces of information in here I thought were interesting just play the beginning and we'll get into it Okay, hold on a second. Let me just make sure I'm doing this right. Here we go. At LAX in Los Angeles today, air travel was disrupted for a time because of another so-called security breach. When was this? I was at LAX yesterday. This was like last week. Okay. It turned out a wheelchair passenger left behind a bottle of liquid medication at a screening area and three terminals were shut down for about a half hour so the woman could be located. She's gonna blow!

1:56:26 It's gonna blow, I tell ya. It's liquid! Oh, it's liquid! So many of us who fly routinely wonder, isn't there a better way to use technology in place of things like shoe removal and that clear glass penalty box to make the skies safe? That's a good characterization, by the way. I like the penalty box. You don't have to play the rest of the clip, but let me explain what happened. First of all, I have to look into this now because my understanding was they're using terahertz waves to penetrate the clothes and according to this report they're actually using a very small amount of radiation x-rays. Because even when they show the thing working it says x-ray on. And by the way if you refuse to go through which I've done and they ask you why and you say well you know I don't know if it's good for my health.

1:57:18 I'm reading reports all the time of the TSA saying yeah, I don't blame you who? Who knows? I wouldn't go through it. Well, here's a there's two pieces of information that came out of this one, although they showed a real picture that it takes under Brian's. He had the pop in graphic. But when they showed the guy given the report at the airport and they kept pointing to the images, he says it was look like a chalk. All I do is make a chalk outline and then they show the picture and it's like it's like an outline, a complete outline with nothing else except, you know, maybe. So what can you see? You can't see anything, but the point is they're trying to make it so the public doesn't realize what kind of pictures these things are taking.

1:57:56 So they had a bogus picture. It was an outline, like a cartoon, which we know is not what it does. So the other thing was that they brought in all these experts. Well, you know, it's not as bad. It's like one in 5,000 is as bad as if you got a CAT scan over your stomach, which is a huge... Which by the way is also very dangerous. We heard a doctor say one in 1,000 CAT scans actually winds up killing someone 15 years later. Yeah, so CAT scans are bad, but they kept coming up with this, oh, it's only, you'd have to go through this thing 5,000 times to get a year's dose of radiation. So I was thinking, well, let's assume that's even true. Here's the interesting part. They show how this thing works. They got the radiation going through and it's going all over the place. What about the TSA guys that are standing there through 5,000 people going through the thing on a day-to-day basis, or maybe say every couple days, 5,000 people go through it, let's say every three days.

1:58:50 The TSA guys around this unit getting irradiated because the stuff if it doesn't hit something it goes through I don't see that they're using leaded glass and I don't see lead all over the place you know it's a plastic box and it looks cheesy and it's got to be bouncing this radiation even though it's not that much of it all over the place, so everybody standing around the device is getting blasted from all these stuff that's missing the person standing inside. And so these TSA guys are putting themselves at huge risk to get really a very high dose of radiation over a year, let's say. uh... being in the in the vicinity and i guarantee this is a prediction of the show we can read this and we can write it down they want to i guarantee there's going to be a class action lawsuit on the part of the tsa suing their own government for putting him in in in harms way in this situation it's just a the whole thing's got it's just a bad every which way i mean who's running this place

1:59:47 Well, the people who are running it are the same people who are now going to put drones in the sky to protect our borders as Janet Napolitano said Friday in a letter to the governor of Texas. Yeah, we're gonna protect the border by putting some drones in the sky. This is the beginning. It's the same drones I presume that... And here's the way that scenario works out. You put the drones up there and then all of a sudden something really bad happens. Which the drones capture on video say you know if the drones were only armed stop this horrible situation So there'll be a false flag thing that happens with a drone watching where somebody gets killed or murdered or something They could have been stopped and so they're gonna load the drones up with with a good excuse You know they've probably been involving you know something up some you know

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

Federal Reserve Transparency, Bank Bailouts, and Fractional Reserve Lending

A U.S. Court of Appeals has ruled that the Federal Reserve must disclose documents identifying the firms that received $2 trillion in emergency loans following the 2008 collapse. The hosts discuss the opposition from major banks like JPMorgan and Citigroup, who fear a loss of public trust. They also explain the "fractional reserve" system and criticize Ben Bernanke's move toward zero-reserve requirements for investment banks.

federal reserve· bloomberg· lehman brothers· goldman sachs· fractional reserve· bernanke

2:00:39 pornography ring. Oh someone is naked there! If only we had it armed. If only we could shoot them out of the auto, just blow them away because they're spreading pornography by being naked. I mean the scenarios are so obvious at this point. It is, it is. And why do we just sit and take it? Why? Why do we do that? Well, it's the media. It's the media, it's the fault of the media and the educational system. It is the media. Please support your independent media. Please, like us, but please support independent media. It's really important. Otherwise, you'll never be able to make your own choices and decisions. I just want to run through a couple of financial things real quick, John, since we didn't do a lot of them. So Greece is still very much at play. There's a huge cabal going on between

2:01:30 basically Berlin who doesn't really want to bail anybody out and of course there's the Lisbon Treaty that says no single state can bail out another state so we either all bond together and bail Greece out which means we'll have to bail out Spain and Portugal and Italy and Ireland. or they need to go to the IMF which is essentially the banks right this is the IMF. The economic hitmen is who they are. Totally and I love the fact that the prolific programmer got into a whole email thread with me about you know the IMF oh no it's you know this is by government decree no please go look at your history. Of course he works for the Federal Reserve but I don't understand. Now you'll recall the the

2:02:16 The Bloomberg reporter who died under mysterious circumstances, which I'd basically call two to the head, he's the one that filed the lawsuit against the Federal Reserve that they had to report on the $2 trillion that they essentially loaned out and wouldn't tell the US public who owns it, who owns that money, who they gave it to. Now the Federal Reserve Board must disclose documents, according to Bloomberg, identifying the financial firms that might have collapsed without the largest U.S. government bailout ever. This is $2 trillion. As the U.S. Court of Appeals in Manhattan ruled today, the Fed... this is on, I think, Friday.

2:02:55 Rule the Fed must release records of the two trillion dollar US loan program launched after the collapse of Lehman Brothers. So this is a win. This is like positive. Oh yeah. Yeah, you want to put five bucks and they don't ever see a document that's either accurate or see one at all. Well it'll have to go, I guess the next step is the Supreme Court. That's the next place it has to go. They won't hear it. They won't hear it? That's my guess. Well, but then they have to adhere to it, don't they? Who's going to enforce it? I'm just saying it's well the people will have to enforce it. How's that gonna happen? But what's really interesting is the banks who are jumping on the side of the Federal Reserve and saying no they shouldn't because you know what the Federal Reserve says as well if people knew who was getting this money then they know that have no trust in those banks. So this is how transparent it is. There's the Clearinghouse Association which processes payments for banks

2:03:56 And they said, oh no, no, this can't happen, it'll be really bad. So who's in this association? ABN Amro Bank, fine Dutch bank, Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, Citigroup, Deutsche Bank, HSBC Holdings, JPMorgan Chase, US Bank Corp and Wells Fargo. Yeah, well that tells you what? That tells you, yeah. You know what it tells me? It tells me that the reason they don't want to reveal this information is not because of banks, oh, they make you worry about your bank. It's because it's going to turn out that most of that money went overseas to the Bank of Scotland, Deutsche Bank, Amro. Yeah. Yeah, our money went, bail out the Bank of Scotland, the same guys who mocked us when the economic collapse began.

2:04:40 And may I just remind people of one thing, because this actually came up in conversation the other day offline. So I said, well you know, but if the banks collapse that would be really bad. I said, let's make a little distinction between what's a bank and a bank. So you have a bank like your retail bank or John like you and I use a small bank which by the way took no TARP money and they hold your money in the bank. and you write checks and they're basically a financial institution that works at retail level with your bank. And then you have a bank like Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers which are investment banks. It's very confusing because the word bank is still in there. These are basically companies that make money with money.

2:05:28 And the most money is made by themselves because they trade shares in their own institution. They're just money-making machines. They didn't actually hold any, and they probably don't hold any retail money. It's like you invest in those companies to go make more money with your money. But what Bernanke, what's actually, before Bernanke, come on, what's his name? Crazy, crazy. Goldfarb. Yeah, that guy. Goldfarb. It's not his name. What he did is... Goldfarb, Secretary of the Treasury before Timmy Geithner. He allowed those banks to change their charter to become essentially retail banks so they could take this money from the Federal Reserve. But they're not a bank like a bank that holds your money. They're an investment bank.

2:06:17 And if those are going bankrupt, so what? They go bankrupt. Who cares? It's just a business. You know, it's like, who cares if a bunch of rich bankers go out of business? I don't care. You know, you win some, lose some. But now, and this is the most mind-blowing thing, and you have to read through the Federal Reserve website and really carefully to understand it, but I've broken it down in the show notes. So the way a bank works is what we have worldwide I think is a fractional reserve system, which means you only need to hold, I think the regulation is what is it, 10% of the deposit? I don't know, they keep changing it. They want to change it again. Well, here's what they want to change. So the way it works is you deposit $100 and the bank only has to hold $10 of that and they can lend out $90 to other people.

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

Stock Market Rally, Plunge Protection Team, and 2012 Election

The hosts analyze a recent stock market rally, citing an article that suggests $600 billion in "net new cash" has entered the market from unknown sources. They speculate that the "Plunge Protection Team" is intervening to keep the economy appearing stable ahead of the upcoming elections. Dvorak predicts a significant market crash once this artificial support is withdrawn.

stock market· plunge protection team· yahoo finance· barack obama· 2012 election

2:07:09 Now, this is great, Bernanke says, you know what, we should just make that no reserves. You don't need to have any money in the bank at all. So now these guys have gotten to the point where they can just have no money and just make money all the time. No reserve, no reserve necessary whatsoever. It's just unbelievable. So if there's a run on the bank, you know, they'll be... They'll be out of business in seconds. That's why I think it was the Bank of America or one of the other banks that said, you know, you have to give us three to three or four or five days notice before you can take your money out. Oh, starting April, it'll be seven days, I think, seven business days. Yeah. And then a perfect, a very good article, which Simon Meyerhofer, I don't know who he writes for, but this showed up on Yahoo Finance.

2:07:59 I guess we had a, maybe you and Horowitz talked about this. We've had quite a rally, is that right? Yeah. We've had quite a rally of late and there's essentially about $600 billion that has come into the market that no one knows where it came from. It's like well, you know we've had this rally all this this fresh money is coming in but I don't know where it's coming. It's like the lost money from Iraq Well, it's probably from the drug found pallet. Yeah, but what this article asserts is that the plunge protection team is in and The six hundred billion dollars of net new cash which has been lifting the market Is probably about to stop

2:08:43 Because I'm thinking no because I think the whole plunge protection group everybody the whole system has to be oriented toward making Obama or making the 2012 or this not Obama in 2012 but this the upcoming elections in November not to get all turned over to the Republicans and So I think they're going to do everything they can to make people happy So you think it's going to continue? Yeah, I think so. At least until November. Then you have a nice little crash right afterwards. It could be more than a nice little crash. I think it's going to be a whopper. I think that's coming up. All right. Sometimes some of these things are self-fulfilling too. You get the market all pumped up and then everyone starts feeling better and they start hiring. You never know the economy can actually perk up. Not pick up, but perk up.

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

General John Sheehan, Srebrenica Massacre, and Gays in the Military

During a Senate hearing on the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, former NATO commander General John Sheehan claimed that the presence of gay soldiers contributed to the fall of Srebrenica in 1995. Sheehan argued that the "liberalization" of the Dutch military led to its failure to prevent the massacre. The hosts dismiss these claims as "unbelievable" and suggest the Dutch forces were actually outmaneuvered or set up.

john sheehan· nato· srebrenica· dutch military· homosexuality· senate hearing

2:09:32 You know, it's like the guy who's dead. The dead where the body got shot and he's still on, you know, I feel pretty good. I think I'm going to be okay. Here's my final bit for this week. This is just amazing because amidst all of this, amidst the promises that President Barack Obama made about closing Guantanamo Bay, which has just kind of fallen off the radar, no one talks about that anymore. It's like, I can't do it. Yeah, it's a, well, whatever. Hey, we got another earthquake. Of course, there's gays in the military and even at the State of the Union. The President said, yeah, we're going to get rid of this don't ask, don't tell. You know, you should be able to be gay and in the military and that's fine. And by the way, I'm totally okay with it. Just to set that in stone, I do not care. However, there was a Senate hearing and General Sheehan, John Sheehan, a former NATO commander,

2:10:30 says this is not a good idea and he has proof John, he has proof that it is very bad to have gays in the military. Would you like to hear his proof and his actual example of why? I'm game. Here we go. You're gay or you're game? Game. Oh, okay. Here we go. Check this out. European militaries today are a product of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nations like Belgium, Luxembourg, the Dutch, etc. Firmly believed there was no longer a need for an active combat capability in the militaries. As a result, they declared a peace dividend and made a conscious effort to socialize their military. That included the unionization of their militaries.

2:11:19 It included open homosexuality, demonstrated in a series of other activities with a focus on peacekeeping operations because they did not believe the Germans were going to attack again or the Soviets were coming back. That led to a force that was ill-equipped to go to war. The case in point that I'm referring to is when the Dutch were required to defend Srebrenica against the Serbs. the battalion was under strength, wholly led and the Serbs came into town, handcuffed the soldiers to the telephone poles marched the Muslims off and executed them. That was the largest massacre in Europe since World War II. Did the Dutch leaders tell you it was because there were gay soldiers there? It was a combination... Did they tell you that? That's my question. They did. They included that as part of the problem. That there were gay soldiers among the Dutch. That their combination was the liberalization of the military

2:12:20 a net effect of basically social engineering. How unbelievable is that? Gay Dutch soldiers. Yeah, that's what that's what that's why that thing fell apart there. Maybe yeah, it had nothing to do with Clinton and Soros and any of that. No, it was nothing to do with being surrounded. Yeah, those pansies, those pansies that just gave up because they're all gay. You know, I was like, what the hell is going on? That's a beauty. It's just unbelievable that he can say this. Wow, I'm surprised the Dutch don't get up in arms. Oh no, they are pissed off. Oh yeah, this is... Well let's get a follow-up story next week. I want to hear what they said because it sounds more to me that the group was poorly led and they got outflanked, caught, you know, they had to surrender, get killed, and they tied him up to something. I'll make it worse. Instead of shooting him. I'll make it worse. I think the Dutch were set up.

2:13:19 I mean there's a lot about Srebrenica that nobody knows. Oh, okay, that makes even more sense. They were set up, completely set up. Then when all is said and done you blame the gays. Most gay guys I know could beat me up real easy. Well, most of them around here. They beat me up with one arm tied to a telephone pole. It's unbelievable that this stuff is, you know, oh, that's a beauty. Yeah, that's a gem. I give you another point for that. So let's finish off this, this thing and we're going to play the little post office game at the end here. And with this Jackie Speier, a California Congresswoman who seems to be more interested in what's going on in Ohio than she is in the healthcare debate.

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

Russ Baker Interview, Family of Secrets, and Show Outro

Adam Curry announces an upcoming interview with journalist Russ Baker regarding his book Family of Secrets, which investigates the Bush family's history. The hosts encourage listeners to sign up for the show notes email list and support the program through donations. They conclude the episode by promoting the return of the Daily Source Code on the No Agenda stream and signing off from their respective locations.

russ baker· george h.w. bush· family of secrets· no agenda· daily source code· email list

2:14:10 And I'd just like to mention that noagendastream.com is starting to come to life as the transition takes place on our side of the interwebs. Hope it's happening on your side. Two interviews coming up. One that I'm working on is with Russ Baker. He is the author of Family of Secrets. which is about, which is a book he wrote which started out about George W. Bush but very quickly led to George H. Walker Bush. I just ordered it. Oh you are going to freak out and it's well documented. This guy is a real journalist and he has footnotes for every quote, every source, people are on record.

2:14:51 It's phenomenal, so I want to get this. But I want to read the book basically twice. I figure I'm going to get the guy because he doesn't get a lot of airtime because that would be like bad exposing the elitist Bush-Clinton crime family. Exposing anything. Well, it's the Bush-Clinton crime family. They are the mob. They are a crime family. And I'm sure there's stuff in that book that he might talk about on the stream that he couldn't put in there. And I'd like to know some things like Boys Town USA. There's some some things I'm just gonna zing them on and then also after our porn in the morn episode of Thursday I have lined up for the future on the stream a a a porn performer who would like to Come on this comes to life. It has nothing to do with Howard Stern whatsoever Okay, no not at all

2:15:46 No, I mean there's a lot more in porn that you don't know about that I think would be very interesting. And then the week after that anybody, you know, like Lear or some of the flying saucer experts? I got plenty of those. If you keep going on this child porn thing, you better start bringing the flying saucer guys. Yeah, I'm a little worried about that. That's why it's all in the show notes. Oh, are we sending out a show notes email blast? Not yet. We're still collecting names. I don't want to pull it off the site. Okay, so make sure you go to the show notes at noagendashow.com, curr.com or dvorak.org and fill in your email address. Sign up for our show notes email list.

2:16:27 and please consider supporting us because once again we've gone over a two-hour mark and I think we've provided some value for you. We appreciate the help. We have to stop doing that. Yeah, we do. That's dvorak.org slash na channel dvorak dot com slash na noagendashow dot com. Coming to you from the hilltop watchtower in Southern California, the People's Republic that is, In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, a place that doesn't exist but it seems to be here, I'm John C. Dvorak. I'll be back with you probably Tuesday with Daily Source Code at noagendastream.com and certainly on Thursday for early service right here on NOAgenda.

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Congressional Post Office Naming, Clarence D. Lumpkin, and Healthcare Debate

A transcript from the House of Representatives shows Congresswoman Jackie Speier and others debating H.R. 4840, a bill to name a post office in Columbus, Ohio, after community activist Clarence D. Lumpkin. The hosts include this to highlight the "absurdity" of Congress focusing on minor administrative tasks while simultaneously debating a massive government takeover of the healthcare industry. The segment concludes with a partisan remark regarding the timing of the healthcare vote.

jackie speier· clarence d. lumpkin· columbus ohio· post office· healthcare· congress

2:17:15 Recognition. The House suspend the rules and pass H.R. 4840. Clerk will report the title of the bill. H.R. 4840, a bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1979 Cleveland Avenue in Columbus, Ohio as the Clearance D. Lumpkin Post Office. Pursuant to the rule, the gentlewoman from California, Ms. Speer and the The gentlewoman from North Carolina, Ms. Fox, each will control 20 minutes. The chair recognizes the gentlewoman from California. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks. Without objection.

2:18:03 I now yield myself such time as I may consume. The gentlewoman may proceed. Madam Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 4840, a bill designating the United States Postal Facility located at 1979 Cleveland Avenue in Columbus, Ohio, as the Clarence D. Lumpkin Post Office. HR 4840 was introduced by my colleague, the gentleman from Ohio, Mr. Tiberi, on March 12, 2010. It was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which reported it by unanimous consent on March 18, 2010. It has the bipartisan support from 17 members of the Ohio delegation.

2:18:44 Mr. Clarence Lumpkin was born in 1925, spent years as a community activist in Columbus, Ohio. He is often affectionately referred to as the Mayor of Linden, a neighborhood in the northeastern part of the city. Among his many accomplishments, Mr. Lumpkin has helped the Community Development Block Grant Task Force, persuaded the city to separate storm and sanitation sewers, to stop basement flooding, led anti-drug marches throughout Columbus, made Linden the first inner city community with lights on every residential street, and improved the Linden area by including the Point of Pride concept that was first shared with the city leaders in a speech given in 1974. Before moving to Linden, Mr. Lumpkin served in the United States Army and he's a veteran of World War II.

2:19:34 Madam Speaker, Clarence Blumpkin has spent his life serving his community and his country, doing everything he could to improve the lives of his fellow citizens. I urge my colleagues to join me in honoring this great American by supporting this resolution. I reserve the balance of my time. Gentlewoman from California reserves. The Gentlewoman from North Carolina. Thank you, Madam Speaker, and I thank my colleague from California for yielding time. I yield myself such time as I may consume. The gentlewoman may proceed. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise today in support of H.R. 4840, introduced by my colleague from Ohio, Mr. Teaberry, designating the United States Postal Service located at 1979 Cleveland Avenue in Columbus, Ohio, as the Clarence D. Lumpkin Post Office.

2:20:24 Growing up in the poor rural South in a family of sharecroppers, Clarence D. Lumpkin has had his fair share of challenges, but that has never deterred him from moving ahead. Mr. Lumpkin picked cotton as a youngster from sunup to sundown, served lunch to turpentine workers, and at the age of 10 lost his mother who'd been bedridden for most of his life. He entered the first grade at 12 years old. Hungry for knowledge, Mr. Lumpkin was a model student who studied constantly. After graduating from high school, Mr. Lumpkin joined the Army, where he served in New Guinea during World War II. After the war, he moved to Ohio, where over a period of 41 years, he worked a number of jobs, finally retiring as chief of the Enforcement Division in the Department of Highway Safety's Bureau of Motor Vehicles.

2:21:19 Mr. Lumpkin is a remarkable man who came from a very difficult childhood and turned his experience of hard work into service to his country in the Army and lifelong service to his community where he has truly made a difference every day in people's lives. In gratitude for his service, I ask all members to join me in supporting HR 4840 and I reserve the balance of my time.

2:22:01 Thank you, Madam Speaker. I yield myself such time as I may consume. The gentlewoman is recognized. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speakers, as my colleagues have said today and I have mentioned also, we are here this week. We're here on a Friday afternoon. We're not normally here because our colleagues across the aisle, along with the President, have decided that It is time for the government to take over one-sixth of our economy.