Episode 1798 · Thursday, 11 September 2025

Adam & The Robot

A sniper attack in Utah leaves a conservative firebrand dead while global stability fractures from the streets of Kathmandu to the borders of Poland.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 26m listen | 37 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1798

About this episode

Conservative activist Charlie Kirk was reportedly assassinated during a speaking engagement at Utah Valley University, sparking immediate national debate over political rhetoric. Michael Letts, CEO of Invest USA and a former Green Beret, characterizes the event as a highly coordinated sniper attack rather than a random act of violence. The incident has triggered intense scrutiny of security failures in Orem and the potential involvement of organized political groups.

Global tensions rise as Poland invokes NATO Article 4 following Russian drone incursions, while Nepal’s government collapses after a Gen Z-led uprising against social media bans. In France, the Block Everything movement paralyzes highways in protest of President Emmanuel Macron’s new Prime Minister. Meanwhile, Oracle founder Larry Ellison briefly became the world’s richest person following a massive cloud deal with OpenAI, even as an MIT report suggests 95% of firms see no return on generative AI investments. In the UK, Peter Mandelson faces a forced withdrawal from his ambassadorial role due to newly released files linking him to Jeffrey Epstein.

John C. Dvorak provides a definitive guide to purchasing high-quality Sake, advising listeners to seek out Ginjo grade and blue glass bottles for the best experience. The program also honors the legacy of podcasting pioneer Todd Cochrane and welcomes new knights Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plain and Sir ElevenOfNine to the No Agenda Roundtable.


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CHAPTER 01 / 37 Discussion

Todd Cochrane Death and September 11th Anniversary

The hosts open the program by acknowledging the sudden death of Todd Cochrane, an early podcasting pioneer and founder of Blubrry, who passed away at age 61 from a heart attack. The conversation transitions to the anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Reference is made to the discovery of a hijacker's passport following the 2001 plane crashes.

todd cochrane· blueberry· podcasting· heart attack· september 11th· hijackers· passport

00:00 Ding plong, plong, plong. Yeah that's good. Yeah, tough week. Not a good week

00:44 So Todd Cochran... Well, at least it didn't happen on a show day. No gives us a little bit of time to have nothing. Um Todd Cochran passed away on I think Monday which was and do you know who he is? Todd Cochran well i know his name but i don't know him oh he was one of the very early podcasters and he founded Oh yes! You mentioned Yes yeah I did I never met him but I knew right any well he wasn't no agenda night actually Yes, and he found the blueberry and he just died suddenly literally. That's what the What the obituary said died suddenly of a heart attack 61 it's like oh okay little young yes, and today of course September 11th where we all have to remember that after those devastating plane crashes everywhere we found a

CHAPTER 02 / 37 Discussion

Charlie Kirk Assassination and Political Rhetoric Analysis

Conservative activist Charlie Kirk was reportedly assassinated during a speaking engagement at Utah Valley University. The hosts examine video footage and social media posts from a "person of interest" allegedly linked to Antifa and transgender activism. A montage of clips features various political figures, including Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters, using aggressive rhetoric that the hosts suggest contributes to a climate of violence.

charlie kirk· turning point usa· utah valley university· antifa· trans shooters· fbi· political violence

01:44 hijacker's passport, completely unscathed. Let's not forget that. But yesterday man Charlie Kirk I got a note from one of our producers and Iraq veteran because it kind of fits with September 11th because why was he there? And he said, double sad day today. Charlie Kirk yesterday a true free speech assassination I saw young Marine die in a similar way in Iraq and 2005 and the video of Charlie rock me like it was the first time seeing it knowing Charlie more with his wife and two kids and watching him for years

02:20 And being proud of the things he has done for our young people, I canceled all my meetings for today because it's hard to stay focused. Because I'm time traveling back to Iraq and it's just looping in my head." He also said that the videofication of violence is just horrific which is true you know? You and I have discussed...you're not really on X like that with an algorithm. You're just on the website I think But it's always... Because my phone is in a drawer. Yes, smartly It's always everything you see is violence If you just scroll and if you let the videos go its all just people beating each other up That's if you keep picking it No! If you watch those videos, stop watching those videos You start getting something else Yeah no that's not true because I've tried everything Tried everything

03:10 So you sent a couple of bonus clips, which I want to start because I presume you have the latest update. Which I don't have but i'll just tell you something changed in me yesterday. Something changed in me? Something changed! You know we all went to church, we prayed for Charlie his friends and family, prayed for our country...I can't claim this show from this day forward will ever could really be called No Agenda Because from now on I got an agenda An American agenda That's based on what Charlie Kirk stood for truth according to the Word of God. I am sick of it all Sick of it time to put down our phones and pick up our Bibles Give me your bonus clips what you got? well, I have the teaser clip from ABC which is what brought me to the second clip and the Because the second clip kind of brings a little bit

04:04 I was not expecting this. We'll discuss this, but I thought it was a professional hit. I completely still think it was. Well to a point but there's some conspiracy aspect to it and Being a professional hit, led me to believe that they're never gonna catch the guy because he already had... Because from what you can tell from what we've been told is there were two decoys and which is one more than usual that were both picked up and let go. And there was uh.. And the guy was you know it was one shot which was important to note. Bolt action rifle

04:51 supposedly. Well, yes with the news flash nobody knows anything and the FBI is certainly the last to know apparently and so we have This broke this morning from ABC. Hi, I'm Diane Macedo let's get right to breaking news the FBI is asking for help identifying this man who they are calling a person of interest in the shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk sources tell ABC News ammunition found with the rifle was engraved with messages about transgender issues and anti-fascist ideology Yeah really convenient in this case

05:35 Well, I don't know how convenient it was but the point is that they brought in later. They had a long presentation and they had gotten as far as they could with this story. As far as i'm concerned that teaser there was probably wrapped up... In a nutshell? ...in a package So then we have this from, this I picked up. I kind of retweeted this and took it down and said maybe not because it's inflammatory but I thought this clip was quite interesting. Yeah you gotta tell me which clip that is cause... Oh its trans. Oh hold on a second It was the second bonus clip. I know I saved it! Hold on a second. I don't understand why it's not here? I'm sorry

06:31 I'm telling you, I saved this clip and for some reason... Well you probably went to the wrong folder then. For boating here it is okay hold on a second sorry about that. I'll cut this out and no one will ever know the difference If oh if it's a trans shooter, baby the trans community so this person here Goes to the University of course are they them and look at what? He said yesterday He says here, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow. I really hope someone evaporates him literally and then he writes let's just say something big will happen tomorrow

07:13 Hmm, so a trans student is saying this yesterday and I also find it very very odd that the person asking the question was asking Charlie about trans shooters before he got shot. So FBI, Kash Patel, whoever the fuck this dude is... Yeah! I think you should look into this Yeah, no that's I think we probably all saw that post and the person who posted that after was like no No, no. I didn't do it there are a lot of people saying no The thing is the coincidence because the question was to Charlie how many trans shooters? Were involved in you know mass shootings in the last 10 years and Charlie's answer was a little glib Which was abnormal for him

07:58 But it was a good, it was funny. I have it here. He said... I have it here. Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? Too many! I think it replays here. Okay now five is a lot right? I'm gonna give you some credit. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last ten years? Counting or not counting dang violence Great! So the time differential between him saying too many and getting shot was 11 seconds. And the coincidence is a little too much for me because you had the guy posting this note in total denial, and next thing you know, you have a trans guy asking or a trans

08:56 I don't know if he was, he wasn't trans probably. No i don't think he was no he was just some guy or dude who knows but some guy coincidentally asking a question about trans shooters and within 11 seconds he gets shot and then we now have the report from ABC that has these etchings on bullets which may or may not be true but this is lined up to sabotage And there's also an Antifa angle, according to ABC. There was Antifa stuff... It's a little bit too much to expect this to be an op, anti-trans op. There is something going on? Yeah! We have an enemy in America and if anything that enemy is trying to cause civil war because that's where we're headed

09:50 And... Well, I don't buy that. Okay you don't buy it? No we're not headed to a civil war World wars have been started over one guy getting shot Yeah. Okay, so you say whatever you want I'm telling you how I feel and if anyone's to blame it's the crap that we have on television It's the crap that our politicians...it's the crap that is repeated on social media and its crap like this But following up with what was just said he has been one of the most divisive especially divisive younger figures in this

10:27 who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to hateful actions. Exactly! Let's hear an example... I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country and maybe there will be. People need to start taking to the streets, this is a dictator! You know? There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful Do something about your dad's immigration practices you feckless vagal molly kid How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck The biggest terror threat

11:13 country is white men, most of them radicalized up to the right. I thought he should have punched him in the face and said even if you lost... He insulted your wife? He came down the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murderers. He said well what do you think i should've done so I think you should punch him in the face and then gotten out of the race. You would have been a hero I'd like to punch him in the face. If we were in high school, I would take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. Punch some people IN THE FACE! When was the last time an actor assassinated a president? They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump...and that's a fact Look as his character is stabbed to death Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him? I have thought an awful lot about blowing up The White House

11:55 A Missouri State Senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated. I will go and take Trump out tonight! And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store at a gasoline station... You get out and you stand across it and push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and are honoring our Constitution right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. They're not going to stop before Election Day in November and they're not going to stop after Election Day. And that should be everyone should take note of that on both levels that this isn't they're not gonna let up and they shouldn't. When you have weak people who clearly are mentally ill this kind

CHAPTER 03 / 37 Discussion

Medical Community and Israel Criticism Tangent

The discussion shifts briefly to the role of the medical community and lawmakers in promoting transgender issues and abortion. One host expresses frustration with the inability to criticize the Israeli government without facing accusations of anti-Semitism. Speculation is raised regarding whether the Kirk shooting could serve as a geopolitical warning involving Benjamin Netanyahu.

transgender· medical community· abortion· israel· josh hammer· megan kelly· netanyahu

12:52 rhetoric can stir people up to nut job stuff. Well, that's definitely true but if you're gonna blame anybody if we're gonna go with the transgender angle I would blame the medical community. I'm with you! I'm completely with you but it's not just a medical community its the lawmakers who are pushing for this the news that continuously pushes for this political opinions that continue push for this Yeah, and you know I'm also done with the abortion baby killing. I'm done with all of it! I'm done with all this crap and I'm also done with Israel who may or may not...I mean if this was a...if this was an assassin's hit

13:35 Listen to what Charlie Kirk was saying about Israel. I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do you're not allowed to it's even worse than that like I host a person that I do I moderate the debate of my right and I give equal time to Josh Hammer equal time To a pro-israel advocate and my moral character is being put into question And so I just I think it's a hyper-paranoid, like we're just gonna try to... We're gonna just stamp out everything type.

14:10 What type of practice? It's like there is some rule, you can't go there when it comes to Israel. Well you and I believe that we're Americans and Americans first period end of story We are citizens of this nation okay That right And in Israel we have funded, we have supported No Not like were gonna but were like honestly The way your treating me is so repulsive I have text messages Megan calling me a anti-Semite But My moral character is now being put into question, Megan. Not my decisions not like hey are you doing this? Is it smart or is it dumb but no I am a bad person if I do this For all we know This could have been a warning to Trump Oh You really you have a problem with us bombing Qatar bombing people in Qatar you got a problem with that? I wouldn't put it past BB net and Yahoo he's off the rails that guy

CHAPTER 04 / 37 Discussion

Charlie Kirk Private Plane and Online Misinformation

The hosts debunk rumors regarding a private plane fleeing the scene of the Kirk shooting, identifying the aircraft as Kirk's own NetJets transport. They review hostile social media reactions to Kirk's death, including a viral video of a woman celebrating the event. Disagreement arises between the hosts regarding the plausibility of various conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination.

private plane· netjets· patriot academy· waco· nazi· social media· bigotry

15:03 He's gone too far now. Well that's something of a stretch although you're curiously you now agree with Natalie and Clayton? I'm not agreeing, iIm saying for all we know... We don't know anything! That is their thesis What I do know is for people saying what was this airplane the assassin left on a private plane he left the airport just right after Kirk was shot The airplane November 888 Kilo Gulf was actually the plane Charlie Kirk traveled on most. I know this because when i saw him speak in Dallas, we landed our little four-seater at Addison Airport and that was the...

15:46 I don't know if it was Addison. That was the only plane I saw and I spoke to the people there, and they told me that that was Kirk's plane. And it's like a net jet so it can leave, it can stay overnight whenever and wherever they need it. So that's not true but the ignorance of people... You know we have The Patriot Academy here You know, which is they teach young people how to introduce bills and how to argue them on the floor and how to make them politically savvy to get them into government. And so they were going to create Constitution City which would be like a small 200 person city it's at 1776 Patriot Way whatever it's all cutesy

16:38 If you see what people post about them online, it's unbelievable. Burn it! Bomb them! Maybe this will be another Waco. They'll kill each other and do the rest of us a favor. Nuke it! Let them die by their bigotry. People are ignorant and all they do is sit on their phones all day... ...and listen to nonsense politicians and nonsense talking heads. And they believe this stuff And then you get people, I only have one of them because it's just too annoying. What's the... This is just a perfect example white woman green hair. So i'm gonna be very fucking clear about this so that you know exactly where I stand and I will say this with my whole entire chest there are some people on this app that are sitting there saying oh you shouldn't wish death upon any person no matter what side they're on fuck that fuck that

17:29 Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi. He was a fucking Nazi and you know what kind of Nazis the best Nazi, a dead one? Thank God that shit stain of a person is no longer in this world and may his hell be being confronted by every single marginalized person that he hurts. That is why it's fucking wrong with me that does not make me a bad person for thinking that bad people should not be in this world So fuck that Nazi and have a great day. And you know, you've seen it there was a lot of this everywhere but there's some gems You know my favorite proverb fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions That is exactly what that woman is so We hopefully will find out hopefully we'll figure this out man if it was if it was Netanyahu

18:25 It wasn't Netanyahu. Well, you don't know that! You don't know anything Remember we just found the passport for one of the hijackers None of us knows anything but to go out on this...just out in the blue with Netanyahu is just ridiculous I don't care what you think about my ridiculous assertions I'm not leaving anything off the table anything. Well, how about this whole thing was staged and it was an extraction? No I don't... Oh you just left something off the table okay I wanted to clear that up. Could you please show me the evidence or do you have any...? Show me the evidence of Netanyahu

19:05 I have no evidence other than a very targeted hit. I'm just pointing out that you are leaving stuff off the table and you're just being bigoted in some funny way. I'm not being bigoted! You know, yesterday I actually thought I would stop doing this show. I am so sick and tired of you saying these things. I have an opinion... Do you tell me im bigoted? Where's your green hair dude?! Yeah, im just saying but you'll get over it Let's listen to some analysis. Maybe you'll get over it? Maybe. And maybe not? Maybe, so let's listen to some analysis about... I thought this was kind of interesting this is about the police work going into this from

CHAPTER 05 / 37 Discussion

Michael Letts Analysis of Sniper Attack Logistics

Michael Letts, a former Green Beret and CEO of Invest USA, provides expert analysis on the logistics of the Charlie Kirk shooting. Letts characterizes the event as a well-coordinated sniper attack rather than a random act of violence. The discussion covers the failure of Kirk's security detail in Orem, Utah, and the potential funding of such operations by entities like the Open Society Foundations.

michael letts· invest usa· green beret· sniper rifle· bolt action· security· soros

19:53 quasi spook character. This is Kirk analysis police work NTD and joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letts he's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert, he's also the CEO of Invest USA. Michael thank you so much for joining us to discuss this tragedy first we'll What will federal law enforcement have to do to figure out exactly what happened? A large crowd of students were there as Charlie spoke, will need to be assessed. The first thing we'll have to do is go in and you know, do the trajectory find that exactly where the round came from. You know this kind of tragic that this much time has passed without that being pinpointed but they're in the process of doing it now obviously would have to match up their trajectory with exact location

20:41 casing on the shell what type rifle was used and then we're gonna have to go into the Intel community find out chatter find out the list of suspects and that may be very broad because Obviously, Charlie's message was controversial. It was right on point but it was controversial and so there is a lot of people that would seek to do him harm So we're going have make sure that gets done effectively The problem that it does bring is that it could take some time But one of the things I want to reassure the American people Is that America stands strong and firm has always stood strong and firm On matters of patriotism and truth And this will not deter us in any form or fashion And who is this guy?

21:22 Well, they introduced them at the beginning. You can play that again if you want to know but the thing that I thought interesting about this clip was that the intel community has a list of suspects just Sitting around that they keep track of everybody. Let me listen to who that guy is again I mean here's intro and joining us now to unpack the tragic death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Lutz He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement expert he's also the CEO of invest USA Invest USA well, I'll have to look that up But he clearly says Charlie Kirk had a controversial message What was so controversial to nut jobs?

22:03 Who was it controversial to? It was obviously controversial to everybody at MSNBC. Invest USA sells bulletproof vests, okay well there's an expert. Well I mean you can say what you want just play clip two And of course, right now it's still early stages. But from your perspective what kind of weapon could have been used here today? It definitely was a long-range rifle I believe it was a sniper rifle which quite frankly if that is the case proves to be accurate then this was not some just off the cuff shall we say disgruntled leftist personnel this would have been well coordinated and a well planned attack and would have been given a lot of consideration a lot of thought

22:51 which then narrows the prospects or the suspects that we're looking at. But it also creates this great concern, where do they stop? They're going after conservatives obviously they attempted to assassinate the president they've made other attempts on other personnel so where is their stop where's there any point are you just determined to make sure they continue this violence against American people until they get whatever it is they're looking for which obviously is a return of power Oh, so he's saying Democrats basically. Yeah that's what he's saying basically...Democrats

23:30 And all those clips that you played earlier of all the people shaking their fists and asking for violence, if you noticed they were all Democrats. You had Nancy Pelosi, what's her name? Waters... Each and every one of them you had Rick... What is his name? The guy who called for the assassination? The Lincoln Project or whatever. Rick Wilson. You had everybody in there sister in that clip series that you played again don't was all Democrats. They're all Democrats, leftists including news people who I don't even think they were even that that left much leftists there were all Democrats. But you can call a Democrat or Leftist but I think they're just Democrats okay? I call them Marxists socialists. I just don't see Nancy Pelosi being a Marxist she's a pure capitalist

24:33 But she's a Democrat and she was one of the people in there, in that clip series. Let's go to three. And Michael, I've seen cancel culture and violence rise at universities carried out against conservative speakers Do you expect what happened today to bring about serious change in this regard? Hold on a second... Did I get the right one is that clip 3 yeah think so Well, the question will be what kind of change can it bring about? Can you do one or two things. Can it silence conservatives? Absolutely not I think you're going to see more voices that are going to rise up and take the place of what Charlie was doing such an effective job with doing The second question is can we provide better security

25:12 Well, you can provide better security if you're keeping those conservative speakers in an enclosed area i.e., an auditorium where you can check people coming in and checking people coming out making sure there are no terrorist or sniper shots that could be done from advantaged buildings But that's not the case, that was never Charlie style. And that's really not the styles conservative America they want to be able to express their opinions where people can be heard and that's on the streets on the sidewalks and as long as that takes place very hard to continue to provide additional security measures So I think you're going to see an increase in this. I think you're gonna see it increasing and conservative voices being heard And until we from the intelligence community at a law enforcement standpoint 10 points a source of all this and deal with its leadership and bring it to justice It's gonna get worse not better that baffling to me is how Charlie Kirk was one of the most guarded people in America

26:10 I mean, he had all kinds of security measures. How could they have missed this? It's like wow! This seems like a no-brainer this one." Well they did talk about... most of these talk show guys especially on Fox they discuss this in great detail and the The final result was that you can, he had a contingent of pros and there were some campus police involved. But they didn't... They all concluded it wasn't at the level of the Secret Service where they would do the checks of the buildings and have counter snipers because Charlie didn't have that. And it was just all personal protection for being entourage type protection

27:03 for close in assaults. No one ever, you know considered a shot from... Well that's what I mean is like if you're in the business of securing somebody who's getting constant death threats and like well we didn't think of that! Well now I'm not gonna argue about that but at the same time the irony to this is that maybe they do think about that but would in Orem Utah? Lily White, super conservative no-crime area of the country. Probably Mac to the max which is perfect location Perfect location That's my point you're making it for me that's my point It is the perfect location but it's also the perfect place for you to drop your guard Yes! That's what I mean unprofessional

27:54 Well, I don't know if it's... Yeah. Well it's natural maybe it's unprofessional If you're completely paranoid but he should have done it inside in that regard If that was the case But yeah And the guy's on the loose. Anyway, this is the last clip. Where's the money? Go to the money drill, follow the money. Follow the paper." Yes! So who is financing these? Who is financing the ability for this to transpire? You know it's not cheap for long range rifles. It's not cheap to plan logistics and these kind of things so find out where the funding sources are coming from second of all find out what the players are you're not going to get somebody just fresh off the street to do this. This took a professional somebody who knew he was doing and they knew how to handle the accuracy of that fire weapon

28:51 So those are the kind of issues that we're going to have to look for. Find out who is in the process of organizing and already has been organized for that matter. And by being already organized, they're using their resources to try to counter conservative message, to try to bring forth a revolution shall we say liberalism and liberal ideas those are the ones you want to target it investigate. You'll find your answers when you go there. Now he makes a very good point! A revolution of sorts yes Yes seems right Seems right to follow the money and bust it up. That's simplest solution Yeah, and we I think we know where half the money is coming from where Soros

CHAPTER 06 / 37 Discussion

NPR Coverage and Charlie Kirk's Legacy

NPR reporter Stephen Fowler provides a report on the death of Charlie Kirk, which the hosts criticize for its framing and "anti-gun" tidbits. The hosts compare Kirk's early success with Turning Point USA to the early career of Bill Gates. They define Kirk as a "polemicist" and debate whether his organization was primarily religious or a political organ essential to the Republican youth vote.

npr· stephen fowler· turning point usa· bill gates· polemicist· christopher hitchens· youth vote

29:39 Open Soros. I'm with Glenn Beck on this one, the open society foundation because Soros is practically dead himself. Well yeah but this foundation people that would you know he knew how to staff an office let's just play this Kirk report NPR kicker this is from NPR Conservative activist and Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk has died, shot at a college campus in Utah. As NPR's Stephen Fowler reports the 31 year old helped usher in an age of In Your Face conservative politics that resonated with young voters especially young men. Charlie Kirk was well known as an energizing speaker and organizer getting young conservatives registered to vote and ultimately activating a key demographic for a party that has struggled with young people

30:30 At 18, he co-founded Turning Point USA as a college campus free speech organization. I had the crazy and wild idea...I want to try to start a youth organization to try and save Western civilization It evolved into an empire with annual summits faith leader outreach in successful media platforms Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University at what was supposed to be the start of a 15 campus American comeback tour when he was shot Stephen Fowler in PR news Kirk was shot as he was taking questions from the audience about gun violence United States Wow So Ray I've knit you the number of NPR clips that I have where they finish off. They usually cut him short before the guy says

31:15 He signs off with I'm so and so then PR which the reporter did. It is unbelievably rare that then all of a sudden the host kicks in an extra little tidbit That one is not rare for NPR. They are just cool. No, it's very rare for NPR to... I mean that's their attitude but the kick in the tidbit at the end when it's not in the main report is fairly rare believe me because this might be one of my main things I'd clip from and when I heard that what was the point? Just put a little gun action in there a little anti-gun stuff

31:52 I just thought it was chicken shit, bad form. It was a lie! It's bad form and also notice how they say he has died not he was killed, he was murdered, he was assassinated... He has died. Subtle but that makes the difference too. Yeah you're right that's a good catch and this is NPR You know, they just don't know. And I think the media somewhat especially these guys uh the public media is somewhat beside itself because it's doesn't know what to how to handle this because it's like they know they're the bad guys

32:37 Do they? Do they really know? I think there's some... Only now, when something like this happens. I don't think they generally know that are the bad guys but i think with something like this happens it kind of reminds them that they might be the bad guys and So they, it's interesting to watch them because they position things differently than they normally do. Now do you consider Charlie Kirk's turning point to be a political organization or something else? Well Charlie, the way I see this, Charlie Kirk is one of those rare people that had a genuine calling during college quits... Bill Gates is the same kind of guy Wow

33:23 I really think so, because not the current Bill Gates after he got pied in the face and it changed his personality but the original Bill Gates. He just saw something, he had a vision quit Harvard to start a software company and became the world's richest man for a long period of time And Charlie Kirk was the same kind of guy. I mean, for an 18-year old to develop an operation that resulted in him having private planes and 850 branches around the country of Turning Point USA in a big headquarters at a well organized structure, this business was highly structured, and for him himself

34:11 One of the top and the only way to describe, I was thinking about this a few shows ago. About people like Charlie Kirk who which is not easy to do but he's genuinely a polemicist and people should kind of look that up and know what that is. And a polemicist is a type of debater that is designed to always win the arguments and probably could argue from both sides. And it's a skill set that I've only seen a few people capable of, Gore Vidal was one of the great polemicists on the left and Christopher Hitchens was a good one there are others out there who come and go they have been here in their

34:54 William F. Buckley probably, even though he was kind of a show-off because he was more interested in expressing his vocabulary and showing it off but Kirk was one of the best and he had developed it I think largely through trial and error by doing a lot of these events with the students for the last 10 years And who knows what his future was but it was not going to be minor And he was... this whole thing, if it was caused by a trans issue that's kind of like there should have been better reasons to shoot him. Yeah but that wasn't my question What was your question? I lost track of it. Clearly!

35:48 Do you consider Turning Point USA to be a political organ? Yes, of course I do. Have you ever seen a rally of Charlie Kirk's? I've watched his stuff on video But he wasn't there like just shilling for Republicans or the Conservative Party Well, he wasn't shilling for anybody He was lecturing people Lecturing them on what? On truth No, well he was lecturing...well There is that element but he was lecturing them countering that liberal ideas that are put to them. They're a basis for thinking the way they do and countering it in a very effective way by confronting it and having public debates. Right, so cultural because that's what he talked about all his answers were about cultural issues that he disagreed with

36:49 As far as I can tell, what that turned into when Trump came along was here's the guy you want to vote for. But I'm pretty sure that this was a faith organization Well, you can say that but the fact that the Trump administration and the Trump people themselves say if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk they wouldn't have gotten the youth vote. And Charlie Kirk was a big part of their campaign Yes But that seems political to me! That's not what the organization was I'm not disagreeing No, you asked me what you asked me and I answered what I answered Okay You like to see this just purely

37:27 Church type of thing. I don't see that no not a church type of thing although the outreach They had was to faith leaders everywhere That's really what they did and yes, they also tried to install people everywhere in politics that had the same message The same meaning the same belief for sure which i think was a very good idea But to call this purely political now now I disagree Here's the actress AOC telling us what really is going on.

CHAPTER 07 / 37 Discussion

AOC and JB Pritzker Reactions to Political Violence

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Governor JB Pritzker offer public statements regarding the Kirk assassination, focusing on gun safety legislation and Donald Trump's rhetoric. The hosts counter these arguments by discussing mental health failures in the criminal justice system. They reiterate suspicions about the "convenient" discovery of etched shell casings at the crime scene.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· jb pritzker· gun safety· january 6th· mental health· fbi· shell casings

38:10 I mean, people can finger point all they want. Look at the record look at the actions of what we are doing. I don't think a single person who has dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety legislation from getting passed in this house has any right to blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening. We have stop this. We can stop this and why don't we start by acknowledging that basic common sense gun safety legislation is not taking away a gun, it's not attacking the Second Amendment but it

38:46 It is about ensuring the safety of our children, of women, of people across this country to ensure that guns and firearms do not get in the hands of people who are going to use them against human beings. Period. Domestic violence is one of the highest indicators of whether a person is going to kill someone else with a gun or not. There are so many other indicators You know and I think it is so deeply important that when a politician tries to blame words for an action, they need to look at their action and their record. Enough of this! This is horrific! This is awful! And the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks in uncorking a political chaos and violence that we cannot risk in America We cannot risk it

39:42 It's amazing where she wasn't anywhere talking about the nutjob who stabbed that girl, that young woman to death on the train. Yeah with a pen knife One of the highest indicators is not domestic violence it's someone who has been in jail 14 times and thought voices were talking to him From what I understand the court records show they arrested that guy for repeatedly misusing 9-11. And in January, his January arrest record states he responded to officers during a welfare check that he believed someone gave him manmade material that was inside his body controlling what he ate walked and talked. Yeah, that's the latest. That's an indicator of someone who is off the rails. It was an indicator we knew needed reopen some of these insane asylums Yes! Definitely We have one in Kerrville stack it

40:36 Here's Chicago, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker who of course blames this on Trump. become a target for somebody. I don't know whether it's political violence because i don't know who did it, and they seem to have somebody in custody but i will say that political violence unfortunately has been ratcheting up in this country we saw the shootings the killings in Minnesota we've seen other political violence occur in other states and I would just say It's got to stop and I think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. I think the president's rhetoric often recommends it We've seen the January 6th rioters Who clearly you know? have tripped a New era of political violence. Oh, yeah Okay This is another one for the list put that guy on the list

41:41 Anyway, in conclusion this was... This seemed way too professional to me. Neck shot from the roof bolt-action sniper rifle no trace of the perpetrator some okay we have a picture boohoo now we have transgender anti fascist markings on the shell case casings it says I only heard yes but that's my point We found that we found the hijackers passport this smells This smells of some, not just some transgender nut job. No that doesn't just no nothing about that feels right So anyway well the guy could have been hired Yeah I mean did their job was follow the money and follow the money exactly what that guy said yeah i think following The Money is the only way to go and they're gonna have to be gonna have to descend it's yeah you got a big at a trip to follow The Money

CHAPTER 08 / 37 Discussion

France Protests and Block Everything Movement

Massive protests have erupted across France following President Emmanuel Macron's appointment of a new Prime Minister. Demonstrators in cities like Paris and Montpellier are protesting austerity measures and defense spending. The "Block Everything" movement has led to highway obstructions and clashes with police, reminiscent of previous "Yellow Vest" and farmer protests involving manure sprayers.

france· emmanuel macron· bruno retailleau· austerity· block everything· montpellier· manure

42:44 This is being orchestrated. We've noticed this before, but it's worldwide." Oh yeah! Yeah it is and what you want to do is you want to take this group of people that didn't even exist 10 years ago not the way it exists today and you wanna blame it on them It's almost like most prophecy about blame it all on the black women You know? It's like hype them up and we'll blame it on them That's what it feels like. It is always a distinct possibility, of course now we have you brought up the issues and like for Europe is subject to this What do you think is going on with France? Oh well I know what's going on with France Well I have two clips What's going on with France is they are sick of their government

43:41 talking about sending them to war against Russia and taking that money to arm up the country in the European Union and not give them the socialist stuff they want. And their 38-hour work week, that's why they're mad! France falls 100 000 people were expected to join the demonstrations which aimed to block highways and parts of France's public infrastructure Outgoing Interior Minister Bruno Retailleau said 80 000 security forces had been deployed across the country In Paris, a fire broke out in the building and several firefighters were sent to the scene. Demonstrators voiced frustration after President Macron appointed a new prime minister on Monday, the fifth since his second term began in 2022. Mr Macron doesn't seem to understand that this is not just a clash of heads?

44:33 We have them, but that's what politics is. We want it to be said clearly his agenda is against France against the French against the people for example Look at this situation in the hospitals they can't cope anymore many people are losing their jobs I work in education I see teachers losing their jobs something I've never witnessed before we can't take it anymore We are facing a very deep social crisis. I believe that today there is enormous anger among the people. I spoke with a nursery worker who is furious, she earns 1600 euros but pays 800 euros in rent

45:15 She is raising her daughter alone. I've made some research about what's happening to me, I realized that our future is at stake. I had to come out to defend my future, to defend this society and to defend my homeland if it continues like this. I honestly hope things change before I turn 40 Is that an AI voiceover that I'm hearing there? I can't tell. This protest was scheduled in July and was highly anticipated in the country The Prime Minister decided to pull a confidence vote two days before the demonstration In a move it to rear from the French people's trust in his policies The move backfired against him and led to the fall of the government last Monday So, the way they start off their report is like well he put in a new prime minister They don't like that's the way it sounded to me Who did this report?

46:05 I think this was NTD. Yeah, i think it was...I don't have a...I didn't make a note of that sorry let's play part two however the protest itself is dividing the french people the original goal to demonstrate came from grassroots movements much like the yellow vest movement demanding lower taxes but was later claimed by leftist political figures which then turned it into a nationwide blockade led by unions and leftist groups. The protest where I'm standing at the moment in Paris is a main protest that has been organized under the slogan anti-fascism and anti-racism blog, which has little to do with the original poll to demonstrate." So while the protests show a strong challenge to the government it also reveals fractures

46:47 among the French people. The president appointed a close ally as his new prime minister, Sébastien Lecornu who took office on Wednesday facing the same challenge to rein in France's ballooning debt as his predecessor David Vives NTD News Paris Oh that's interesting so he said oh well the leftists are doing it which is their word for Democrats But CBC had a short, very clear report on what the problem is. Protesters and police clashed in cities across France today Police in Montpellier used water cannons and tear gas to clear demonstrators. Protesters angry about austerity measures obstructed highways set fires and barred access to some schools and offices

47:36 They're part of a massive online movement called Block Everything. Demonstrators say defense policies eat up public funds that should be used for hospitals and schools, nearly 300 protesters were arrested. Ah! Block everything where have I heard this before? The French are kick-ass when it comes to protests. I mean my still remember some years ago during this show era where the farmers were working about something and they backed up these giant combines and had these things that would spray manure onto the... Well, they'd be doing that with a farmer protests. Yeah, they sprayed manure under the Parliament building from a distance

CHAPTER 09 / 37 Discussion

Blackout the System Economic Protest Website

A new digital movement called "Blackout the System" is calling for a massive economic protest on September 17th. The website encourages participants to adjust W-4 tax withholdings, withdraw money from major banks in favor of credit unions, and cancel corporate subscriptions. The hosts analyze the site's high production value and its claims of participation across 28 countries.

blackout the system· economic protest· w-4· credit unions· corporate greed· socialism· global movement

48:23 Well, this is quite creative. This sounds a lot like blackout the system Have you heard yeah which is coming on the 17th? Which I think it's gonna be a huge dud Oh No It'll be nothing but nice web page they put together with absolutely no information about who they are We're not asking we're shutting it down the largest economic blackout of protests in US history Black out the system calm And so they have, speaking out against injustice that would be minorities. Unity and the power of the people that would be Marxist-Socialists winning together well you know what that means

49:05 Why we black out the system? We are done funding our own oppression. We are done being silent while the system exploits us. They're funding it, I didn't realize they were funding it. Divides us and works against us this movement is peaceful but its powerful! We are using the greatest leverage we have our unity and economic power when they say to have no money but to bring To bring the system down to its knees. No to dictatorship, no to corporate greed... ...no to blind obedience, no racism and oppression and no to fascism. They forgot no to Trump! And no to everything America stands for. Yes but there's no... Here here's what you should do

49:50 Adjust your W-4. Check your taxes, every paycheck they take more than you owe then give it back without interest at tax time adjust your w-4 so you keep more in your pocket now instead of letting them use it all year okay starve the corporations remove and withdraw your money from the banks banks lend your money to corporations that what do they want I'm looking at this website, by the way it's got a lot of JavaScript as things are flying around. It's pretty well done! Told you... Banks lend your money to corporations that purchase politicians who make policies against the people Regional credit unions are better option Well we've been for that Cancel subscriptions

50:35 Anything unnecessary, cut it! Put your money back in your pockets and drive a wedge between your resources and their products. And spread the word. Share... This is from the... I mean why didn't they just put on there Socialist Party of America? Oh this definitely is a socialist party thing But then but then there's nothing and become a partner There's no donation place No donation thing Which is odd, usually you know. Yeah, there's usually something. Act blue on something there so this is something out of the blackout pledge okay but yeah so that's a move and I'd say that's just that's a global socialist move well what's yeah it's global because right at the bottom says 50 states participating 28 countries oh there you go supporting ah

51:25 So what's, what 28 countries? What are we talking about here and why? Well they have a handyman. 10 million engagement activity 100% committed team which we don't even see... who is this team? We don't know! Is there a link to the team? Oh link to The Wall of Stolen Wages Welcome to The Wall of Stolen Wages. We're stealing. Oh okay somehow they're being stolen I get it A lot of unhappy people No, these people aren't unhappy. They're happy I don't know if they're happy. I really think they're happy. I don't think so Yeah Alright, so I think you have a couple clips as well this Israel targeting Hamas in Qatar

CHAPTER 10 / 37 Discussion

Israeli Strike in Qatar and Ceasefire Fallout

Israel conducted a high-profile strike in Qatar targeting Hamas leadership, an action that reportedly caught the United States off guard. European Union President Ursula von der Leyen proposed sanctions on extremist ministers in response. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman condemned the aggression, while the hosts debate Donald Trump's prior knowledge of the operation and the future of the Abraham Accords.

qatar· hamas· benjamin netanyahu· ursula von der leyen· mohammed bin salman· abraham accords· doha

52:12 Demanding an end to Israel's war in Gaza, demonstrators shouted angrily at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his vehicle made its way through a crowd north of Tel Aviv. Netanyahu making clear today nothing has changed in his mind after yesterdays stunning Israeli strike into Qatar targeting the leadership of Hamas. And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorism... Was he targeting and missing? In his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas. And I say to Qatar and all nations who harbor terrorists you either expel them or you bring them to justice because if you don't we will

53:02 Yesterday's strike, which caught even the United States off guard left a number of Hamas members dead though Hamas says its leadership survived. But the attack has upended attempts at a ceasefire to the nearly two-year war and it reinvigorated pushback against Israel Europe needs to do more In Strasbourg France today European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen We will propose sanctions on the extremist ministers and on violent settlers. And we will also propose a partial suspension of the Association Agreement on Trade-Related Matters

53:43 straight condemnation for the strike into Qatar meanwhile continued on a number of other fronts. Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, we reject and condemn Israel's aggressions on Qatar said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman adding this attack requires an Arab Islamic and international response to confront such aggression We stand with Qatar Very even like cutter very what's that? The Saudis don't even like cutter. Yeah, so we do So would do we know that Trump didn't give the good go ahead and behind the scenes well He said it was plausible deniability and has nothing to do with this as I didn't why I don't know what this guy's cuz guys nuts Well President Trump said he did not know about it until briefly before and then told the Qataris that it was coming

54:40 That's the official word, from boots on the ground in Doha. Local concern about this was about sovereignty not about Hamas leadership nobody here cares or likes Hamas Qatar just agreed to...this is boots on the ground...just agreed to try to mediate knowing Hamas is insincere and all talks And also, note that not one country has suggested pulling out of the Abram Accords with Israel since the war began. Nor do they care about the attack on Iran." So this is again from Qatar. Separately a significant number of those reported killed in Gaza are Hamas fighters and family members. In general there's indifference towards death outside the Western world. That's probably true maybe they look at death differently than we do We see it as kind of crappy

55:35 Well, you know there wasn't a great... the reason Trump has to stay completely... beyond plausible deniability positioning. He needs to be in that position because the United States is the one who set up Qatar to be the Doha, you know where you have Hamas can be there so we do negotiations with them and they can be safe. Right? It looks pretty bad but they haven't done any negotiations So let's bomb the hell out of him or kill him while they're there I this whole thing is very suspect Oh, so you think Trump knew

56:10 I do think he knew. Because, I've stick it with the thing that we're running Israel they're not running us No! I don't think they are running... if anything this is why i think they may have gone too far I just don't see it Let's see this France 24 report has I think something about it a show of solidarity from regional leaders The president the United Arab Emirates and Crown Prince of Jordan are in Qatar Wednesday A day after Israel's attack on its soil the Qatari Prime Minister said Tuesday It would not be put off in its efforts to mediate a deal between Israel and Hamas

56:47 but didn't let Israel off the hook. Mediation in Qatari diplomacy is part of our identity and will continue, nothing will deter us from carrying out this role. Does the world need a clearer message than this? Who is closing the door to peace? Does the international community need a louder signal? Who is the bully in this region?" Hamas, who were discussing the Trump administration's latest ceasefire proposal in Doha when they were struck said their targeting showed Israel didn't want to reach an agreement. Meanwhile Israeli hostage family members expressed alarm that the attack I think this is a

57:44 the final nail in the coffin of any kind of negotiations that is taking place between Israel and Hamas as far it is mediated by Qatar. Qatar has always been a diplomatic channel of these negotiations, and it does not intend to pay a direct price by playing this role. And if that's That is obviously the kind of consequence that also Netanyahu and Israeli government probably expect to happen. On Wednesday, Israel warned that its enemies were not safe anywhere and that if it hadn't succeeded in killing Hamas leaders this time it would the next. It just seems like...it's our negotiators, it's our idea, it's our proposal we've got a base there And then Trumps gonna go yeah okay go ahead kill them? And then they don't kill him?!

58:32 Well, that's the thing that probably irked Trump. And Trump didn't go ahead and say that like I said he's in a position of plausible deniability no he didn't know it was gonna do with it. Trump is a politician at this point in his life and this sort of thing can go on so what to what was the end game? What was the benefit? Well we've given up but the endgame is that we've given up on dealing with Hamas. Hamas has just either got to be completely wiped out or we don't... it's just an impasse, they won't negotiate in with good faith and the negotiations they do and they lie there's just a terrible group of people and the Palestinians support them. There is nothing.... They're just gonna have to let this play out I don't know It's beyond me! I think is beyond Trump, its beyond everybody

CHAPTER 11 / 37 Discussion

ICC Sanctions and Gaza Security Zones

The U.S. Department of State, led by Secretary Marco Rubio, issued sanctions against International Criminal Court officials following arrest warrants for Israeli leaders. Meanwhile, the IDF continues "Operation Gideon's Chariots" in Gaza City, establishing expanded security zones. Plans for new Israeli settlements in the West Bank are also discussed as a move to prevent a Palestinian state.

international criminal court· marco rubio· benjamin netanyahu· gaza city· west bank· operation gideon's chariots· lawfare

59:24 Well, for sure. They kept Iran out of it and maybe that'll help. Yeah maybe you got anything? I think I may have a thing on my hand. Yes you have ICC rebuke Oh well this is different this is from actually started awhile ago the ICC Going after Netanyahu, which is that there may be something here that that applies. Let's play this clip Israel released footage on Wednesday of terrorists fleeing as an Israeli tank approached them in the Gaza Strip Many of them attempted to take cover in this tunnel entrance

1:00:03 But Israel struck the area before one of the terrorists was able to make it inside. Israel also released an infographic showing where they established security zones along the Gaza Strip border, and after Operation Gideon's chariots they increased that security zone and Israel now controls about 75% of the Gaza Strip A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces said that Operation Gideon's chariots enabled them to increase operations in Gaza's largest city. We will deepen the damage to Hamas in Gaza City, a stronghold of governmental and military terror for the terrorist organization

1:00:40 We are not waiting. We have begun the preliminary actions and already now IDF troops are holding the outskirts of Gaza City." On Wednesday, Israel said they were calling up 60,000 reservists to report for duty and that they were extending current orders for 20,000 reservist who were already deployed Meanwhile, The Israeli government gave the final approval for plans to begin construction of a new settlement east of Jerusalem Thousands of homes are expected to be built in an area that would nearly divide the West Bank into two parts. An Israeli official said the new settlement would quote, bury the idea of a Palestinian state. A representative of the Bedouin community in the West Bank said they received demolition orders for buildings in the area about a week ago

1:01:28 And he called on the international community to prevent Israel from establishing the new settlement in the West Bank. In another development, The U.S Department of State issued further sanctions against two judges and two deputy prosecutors belonging to the International Criminal Court which is supported by the United Nations What a waste of money that thing is! No one cares... no one adheres to your stupid court. International Criminal Court Well, they're always hoping it takes hold. Yeah... How long has that been? 30 years they've been trying for forever No one cares about it There's a second part to this Secretary of State Marco Rubio said quote the court is a national security threat that has been an instrument for lawfare against the United States and For our close ally Israel The decision comes after the court issued arrest warrants for Israeli officials over the war in the Gaza Strip

1:02:25 An Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu in a post on X praised the US decision and accused the court of conducting a smear campaign against Israel and the Israel Defense Forces. On the other hand, The United Nations said that sanctions quote undermine the foundation of international justice. International Justice. Yeah there's international justice everywhere. The international part is the problem. There is no international nothing It's all men for everyone for himself at the end of the day, so I've been that's not this. That's not the plan No That's not the plan But the New World Order is not coming to fruition their way they ever wanted it to they've been trying that all my life too Oh the new world order here comes yes and the Antichrist is arising yes So I've been following this story in Germany and There was really no

CHAPTER 12 / 37 Discussion

AFD Candidate Deaths in Germany

Six candidates for the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party died shortly before local elections in North Rhine-Westphalia. While police and some party officials cite natural causes or suicide, social media figures like Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson have labeled the deaths "weird." The hosts speculate on whether the deaths are related to high vaccination rates in Germany.

afd· germany· north rhine-westphalia· alice weidel· elon musk· tommy robinson· vaccine

1:03:23 No clips or anything on it? This is about the sudden deaths of many of the AFD Alternative for Deutschland candidates. Oh yes, this is a story then there's got to be some clips on this. Yes all of a sudden... Well all of a sudden is not entirely true but yeah okay well all of a sudden kind of you know that over time They've been taking out these AFD guys. Yeah, well one after the other what do you think? Well let's listen to the euro news verify Verifies without evidence verify as many as six candidates for the far-right Alternative for Germany party have died in recent weeks ahead of local elections in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia

1:04:07 Westphalia and it's prompted unfounded suspicions on social media. On September the 14th, district municipal and city councils as well as some mayors will be elected in the Western German state with a reported 20 000 candidates running for office Police have ruled out any foul play in relation to these six deaths. The causes range from serious pre-existing conditions to suicide A senior official from Alternative for Germany itself has also dismissed speculation that these deaths were in any way intentional But there have also been clear attempts to sow conspiracy and suspicions

1:04:46 The party's leader, Alice Vidal shared a post on X where another user describes the death toll as statistically almost impossible. This theory has been amplified on social media and by controversial public figures. Here British far-right activist Tommy Robinson asks what is going on? And billionaire owner of X Elon Musk comments weird Conservative publications have also misleadingly described the deaths as mysterious or unexpected. The North Rhine-Westphalia Ministry of the Interior has said that candidates from other parties have also died in the electoral campaign, but that these deaths have not sparked the same unfounded suspicions

1:05:29 The deaths do mean that ballot papers issued in certain constituencies, as well as some mail-in votes are now invalid. It also means the party will have to nominate new candidates to replace the deceased." So my takeaway from this in the most vaccinated country in Europe pretty much locked down like dogs forever 20,000 candidates. You know this is it's not like the national parliament elections here this is all small elections all over the country The suicide one I'd like to know more about but you know twenty thousand people died and I'm a little less suspicious than I was So you think just that bunch of vax deaths? Yeah probably

CHAPTER 13 / 37 Discussion

Ursula von der Leyen GPS Jamming Incident

Reports surfaced claiming Ursula von der Leyen's plane was targeted by Russian GPS jamming over Bulgaria, forcing the pilot to use paper maps. However, Bulgarian officials and data from Flightradar24 later contradicted these claims, showing no evidence of signal interference. The hosts view the incident as a potential attempt to manufacture a pretext for conflict with Russia.

ursula von der leyen· bulgaria· gps jamming· russia· financial times· flightradar24· ads-b

1:06:20 And you know it's clickbait. It's good click bait Elon Musk weird hmm we're here stay on a comment stay on X is weird yes, it's very very weird and We also got a this was this was kind of fun This is about the GPS jamming of Queen Ursula's jet which I think we pretty much pulled apart for you on the last show They do the same here, but yeah they gotta leave some doubt in the verify segment from Euronews. Reports that European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen's plane was targeted by Russian GPS jamming as she traveled to the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv on 31st August have sparked major speculation The Financial Times first broke this story on 1st September reporting that Von Der Leyen's plane circled Plovdiv airport for an hour using paper maps to land

1:07:12 We have received information from the Bulgarian authorities that they suspect this was due to blatant interference. by Russia. But days later, on the 4th of September, Bulgaria's Deputy Prime Minister Groszlan Karazhov denied that the government had submitted any information about Russian interference to the European Commission In an apparent attempt to backpedal on those initial claims, the country's prime minister Rosen Zelensky said there was no evidence of prolonged interference or jamming of the GPS signal around Plovdiv airport

1:07:48 later said that although no jamming had been detected by ground instruments, this didn't exclude the possibility of onboard fighters detecting jamming. Analysts from Flightradar24 told Euroverify that according to their data the aircraft maintained a good GPS signal throughout the flight Their data also contradicted The Financial Times' assertion that the aircraft circled Plovdiv for an hour as flight records revealed that the aircraft landed only a few minutes late Although there are a plethora of doubts surrounding this incident, Moscow has intensified GPS jamming targets in planes and ships since it launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 primarily targeting the area surrounding the Baltic Sea. Right so I play these back to back because if I don't believe one why would I believe the other? What horse crap that is verify

1:08:40 Well, you know there's no evidence and the GPS data shows through ADS-B that there is no evidence but Russia has been doing this. They want war so bad! Please give us war whatever you do... Well it will straighten out the French economy Oh they need it for that very reason Germany has everything kaput to speak in a good German word Kaputt es ist kaputt They've got no energy No industry, they've turned the car factories into building tanks and planes and other stuff. They need this war!

CHAPTER 14 / 37 Discussion

Russian Drone Incursions in Poland and Article 4

Poland has invoked NATO's Article 4 for consultations after shooting down multiple Russian drones that violated its airspace. Prime Minister Donald Tusk and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte are assessing the situation, which Tusk describes as the closest the country has been to open conflict since World War II. Russia denies intentional targeting of Polish territory.

poland· donald tusk· nato· article 4· shaheed drones· kaya kallas· mark rutte

1:09:17 And which of course puts this Russian drones in Poland into a suspicious light. And Nathan we have more geopolitical news this morning related to the war in Ukraine, Poland has shot down drones that crossed into its territory during a Russian air strike on Ukraine The Polish military calling it an act of aggression and the country's premier is asking NATO allies for support Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Stephen Carroll is in Brussels and joins us live with the details good morning Stephen Good morning Karen and Nathan. Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk says his country's airspace was violated by a huge number of Russian drones in the early hours of this morning, airports were closed for several hours while citizens in the east were told to stay indoors it's the first

1:10:00 time the NATO member has shot down military aircraft that have strayed into its airspace since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The EU's foreign affairs chief, Kaya Kalas says the incursion appears to be intentional. The Polish Prime Minister has asked NATO to invoke Article 4 of its treaty which triggers consultations on a military response. Oh no! Article four? We're DEF CON4?! Oh boy what does Queen Ursula have to say? We have seen reckless and unprecedented violations... of Poland and Europe's airspace by more than 10 Russian Shaheed drones. Europe stands in full solidarity with Poland. Yeah, war! We can do it! Come on everybody! We got Article 4. Article four we're just one away from five... One away

1:10:48 Which means they'll drag us, our ass into the whole thing. Well that's what they want for sure I have a drones in Poland clip too see if there is anything different Okay... Drones in Poland Russian drones reportedly entered Polish airspace on Wednesday Poland says it shot them down with the backing of military aircraft from its NATO allies Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk says it's the closest the country has been to open conflict since World War II. We are most likely dealing with a large-scale provocation, but at the same time we're in consultation with our allies I am in constant contact with the NATO Secretary General.

1:11:39 Hello everybody, I'm Mark Rutte. I am activating Article 4! Contact with the NATO Secretary General Prime Minister activated article four of NATO's treaty under which alliance members can demand consultation with their allies The head of NATO says the organization is still assessing this situation A full assessment of the incident is ongoing. What is clear, is that a violation last night... ...is not an isolated incident. Russia meanwhile denies allegations. It's not isolated because of that other drone that they... The Ukrainians actually said was not from Russia? Remember that? That was just two weeks ago. Even the Ukrainians say I wasn't from Russia but it's ongoing

1:12:25 Engage article 4. What is clear, is that the violation last night is not an isolated incident Russia meanwhile denies the allegations The country's defense ministry issued a statement saying its drones carried out a major attack on military facilities in Western Ukraine Adding that it had no plans to hit any targets in Poland But Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs says he doesn't believe that warning of possible escalation Even though NATO is not at war, Russian aggression strikes beyond Ukraine. The United Nations is now warning of a possible wider conflict. The regional impact and real risk of expansion of this devastating conflict... The incident comes just a few days after meeting between President Trump and the president Poland some US troops are stationed in Poland during the meeting trump was asked if the soldiers are scheduled to stay there

CHAPTER 15 / 37 Discussion

Andrew Soules on NATO Escalation and Russian Offensive

Military analyst Andrew Soules discusses the strategic implications of the Polish drone incursions and the activation of Article 4. Soules suggests Russia is signaling its readiness to counter any Western "boots on the ground" in Ukraine. He notes that Vladimir Putin is currently prioritizing a peace settlement on Russian terms over a simple ceasefire as the fall offensive begins.

andrew soules· nato· article 4· canada· latvia· putin· ceasefire· ukraine

1:13:21 If anything, we'll put more there if they want. But I think long wanted to have a larger presence. We have some countries that have more not too many but know that he's staying in Poland were very much aligned with Poland. The report goes on. Wasn't Trump the guy who wanted to get all these guys out of the world? You know, we had these bases everywhere. What happened then after that? Well, he's selling all this stuff now. That's what he's doing. I have a couple of clips from our guy analyzing this. Oh, your buddy? Yes right! The Canadian guy... Yeah the Canadian Andrew Soules What do you make of Russia's actions? Do you believe that this was intentional or as Belarus says it was all an accident It could be a combination of the two really. I think we have to look at what is happening strategically The Russians are mounting the beginning of their fall offensive

1:14:17 They have decided that they will not be able to reach a compromise deal, or a deal that is in their favor with the Ukrainians through any kind of negotiation at present. So they are now on a war path. They are now increasing their war effort against Ukraine, both in the ground and in the air And this was a continual range of large-scale attacks against Ukraine Now the question is where these missiles which sometimes do fly close to the Polish border Western Ukraine. Was this, as the Belarusians are saying a jamming exercise because they would be, Ukrainians would be jamming them? So that's a possibility we'll have to see what the investigations are. The other one you know if we want to speculate is the Russians are continuing to signal to NATO and western countries that don't think about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine because were prepared to take you on so thats more aggressive interpretation I'm not

1:15:14 saying that's what it is, but it could be to show look we're going to test your air defenses in case one day. We may have to fight you if you put your boots on the ground which we've told you not to do so this is I think what's going on here? We don't know the ground truth yet but the investigations hopefully will reveal that. I find the coincidence of Ursula clearly lying about GPS jamming and now well the Ukrainians might have been just there's too much jamming talk going on You know I agree, and the thing that might also be going on because it's doable is that you can...if you can figure out what these signals are that are controlling them. Take control of them. Take control of the drones and then drive him over to Poland and drop him in a bunch of fields which is basically what happened. Yeah well here he's talking about Article 4 we've engaged article four

1:16:09 So tell us more then about NATO's actions moving forward. As we mentioned, Poland is on high alert they have triggered now Article 4 which means an emergency meeting of NATO allies which of course includes the United States President Trump what will happen do you think next? Well, this is all about firming up NATO's eastern defense of its territories to the eastern flank which of course includes Canada. Canada has the brigade in Latvia for example very close to all of this but so this means that NATO is taking now whatever steps are necessary to beef-up it's air defenses and ground defences as well but really we're now talking air defense systems incase there are any further incursions

1:16:57 So it's a bit of a ramp up. This is not a panic, but this is Article 4 which has now been activated as the consultative mechanism. It's been come. It's been activated a few times before. There's a logical step stone part of controlled escalation or counter escalation if you will and so we'll have to wait and see but everything is under control right now. It's interesting. It's tense but under control I feel so much more comfortable when he says that everything's OK Article 4 is just a Zoom meeting, people. Don't get your panties in a bunch! We're just gonna have a little call... That's basically what he said but he also said has been implemented before I'd like to know when? Oh that's a good question. I mean it was the first thing i had asked oh has been implemented before under what circumstances? I think in 2022

1:17:46 Well, you think? No I'm pretty sure. 2022 Article 4...I'm pretty sure just before... Probably ask your friend or buddy there, your heiress she would probably know if you asked her. I would say the question would be how many times has article four been implemented by NATO and when How many times has Article 4 been implement... Oh, voice connection lost. Hold on. Okay. How many times has Article 4 been implemented by NATO and when? NATO's Article 4 has been invoked eight times total since 1949. Here is the rundown, first in 2003 over Iraq security concerns then Turkey in 2003 for Cyprus again Turkey 2006 amid Israeli Lebanon tensions Romania and others 2008 after Russia's Georgia invasion Poland 2014 during Ukraine crisis

1:18:46 multiple allies like Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania Poland Romania Slovakia in February 2022 post Russia's Ukraine attack and most recently Poland yesterday September 10th 2025 over those Russian drone incursions each ones basically a heads up for talks not full-on action What's with the breathiness? Boy, that was a good report. I'm gonna give her... You can moan and grunt about her breathiness but I ain't giving her 10 points for that. That took care of it. But she didn't say 2022 did she? I didn't hear her say it. Yeah, she did right- Oh okay. She had it covered! It was great. Oh no! I'm impressed!

1:19:35 Here's the final clip. So, the question is of course what are the options if it was intentional? If it is determined through an investigation that this was intentional then what does NATO do and actually Andrew can that be determined I'm not an expert on these systems and how they look at their guidance systems, but they have the pieces in Poland. So the experts will look at it and they will make some kind of determination. There's also radar, the flight plans you know? You can say these systems... The Russians are saying that systems were not long-range, they couldn't have reached Ukrainian territory

1:20:16 Like, the way they were going. So they were deflected! I mean that's an argument right? So the experts will look at flight plans They will look at the actual substance of the drones that they have found in Poland and try to put together a piece so...I will not stay away from the technical analysis but on military political military point-of-view NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard. But this is... strengthen its defenses by spending money. Oh, well of course this is that's what it's always about so I will not stay away from the technical analysis but on military political military point of view NATO will take this as a need to strengthen its defenses and remain on guard but but this is not to go to war with Russia because Russia clearly at this point for sure he's not going to war with Poland in NATO So we're not at that level at all But we are playing aggressive

1:21:13 because of the war in Ukraine. We come back, this is all about Russia trying to defeat the Ukrainians in a substantial way to get what they want from Ukraine for presumably I think by 2025 at the end of the year The Russians are really putting on the pressure now Putin's not serious all but a ceasefire and he actually made that point too to Trump in Alaska He wanted a peace settlement first, before a ceasefire. That's very clear from the Russian position Now what does that mean? That means the Russians want a peace settlement on terms favorable to their objectives And until they get there Ukrainians are saying no So the Russians are saying well then more war Until we can convince you, the Ukrainians through military action

CHAPTER 16 / 37 Discussion

Drone Warfare Technology and Banker Wars

The hosts discuss the evolution of drone technology and the potential for electronic espionage to take control of enemy aircraft. The conversation turns to the historical theory that major wars are often "banker wars" used to reset global debt. They explore the idea of a "war reset" as a solution to modern financial deficits and the role of the military-industrial complex.

eric schmidt· shaheed· electronic warfare· military-industrial complex· great reset· stablecoin· world war i

1:21:55 to come our way. It's a knock-em, sock-em war right now to see who prevails. Knock em, sock em! Rock them, sock them robots everybody! Well the significance of Poland is not lost on me historically speaking you know when Germany invaded Poland that started World War II in essence Well, of course what would always be good is we could have a nice little World War I assassination of some Duke somewhere. They don't need much they really don't need much and America always enters late into these things We weren't there at the beginning of World War One or World War Two No, we were late on both Now in this case you know be careful of the bewary of the military-industrial complex follow that money

1:22:49 And especially with drones, Eric Schmidt. You know? Who's controlling the drone? Who knows how to control other people's drones? This whole drone thing is spectacular! I think the drone warfare with taking control of other people's drones through espionage you can find out what their codes are i'm sure... uh you could get in- I think that's a bigger threat than the drones themselves Yes well the whole drone thing it's just no good But can you imagine just even a one of these air shows where you have all the drones that make this designs in the sky? They're pretty spectacular. And taking control of that and then driving those, 10 or 20 or 30 thousand drones into the crowd is what you're imagining. Also what is never really well explained is these drones I mean, what size are they

1:23:51 Are these like reaper drones? Yes, well they said there were Shahids. Shahid okay picture of the Shahid in the report That's Iranian drone yes an Iranian drone so let me see what that looks like that's what they said right Well of course it's we have to oh then that's one of those Delta wing deals Oh! That's the Shaheed drone. That's a good-looking one very is a very handsome drone And the other report I heard about these drones was that they don't know that they were armed. They said they've maybe not been armed, which would lead credence to the analysis that the Russians are just testing them, which leads credence of the Russians did it on purpose and just a test the air defenses

1:24:39 That's a possibility. Man, what kind of world war do you have when everyone is just using drones on each other? Oh it's not going to be... It's going to be unpleasant. Every war that there has been so far the big ones all of them Well they've all been unpleasant and none of them were pleasant They've gone from these things like catapults to crossbows to one different kinds of phalanx designed attacks, horses with stirrups. I mean every little increase in technology how minor it might be always results in a war to test that out. Ah exactly there is

1:25:24 Yeah, it's a show. It is basically an airshow. Well it takes care of a number of problems when you get rid of a bunch of people because you want population control because your duds and the other thing is that it improves your economy uh... it gets everybody on the same page creates nationalism which you need to keep your society going uh... it says it's a plus is a win-win Yeah, well isn't it always... I mean from that's by say that facetiously the win-win part because it's not a win-win at all but it's a win-win.

1:26:02 Aren't all wars basically banker wars? Whenever we're in financial problems globally, isn't that when the wars usually start. Well I think if you go back in history then the banker aspect was minor. I think the bankers benefit... Modern! Not modern history. There is a lot of discussion in the left wing when I was going to a left-wing school at Berkeley yes they would discuss The World War I is a war that we should not have gotten involved in because it was the bankers' war. It was the bankers of England that got us to join them, to turn the tide of the war which we did... To pay for it! And help finance it. We're good at that

1:26:49 And sure, that element was in play. Right but if you just look at the financial situation of the world where every all money is fake and phony all of it's so fake it's all just made up of derivatives of debt debt debt or credit no matter which way which is whatever side you're on I mean how else can everybody get out of this hole we need a war reset that's your great reset right there well that would definitely take care of the deficit yeah Sadly, but yeah. Well, that's a good thought. I'll take stablecoin over war any day! Yeah well... Any day! It may be part of the mechanism that creates the war. Very possible but i'm hopeful it isn't. Yeah well you know yeah exactly hey by the way another thing that is poorly covered i can only get one of my favorite indian voices to talk about it is the uprising in Nepal

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Nepal Government Collapse and Social Media Ban

The government of Nepal collapsed after Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli resigned following violent protests in Kathmandu. The unrest was triggered by a government ban on 26 social media platforms, including Facebook and Instagram. The hosts highlight that the uprising was largely driven by Gen Z citizens, who make up a significant portion of the Nepalese population.

nepal· kathmandu· kp sharma oli· gen z· social media ban· tiktok· instagram

1:27:54 Have you seen the mess that's going on there? No. This one, you got me on that one. Oh yes well she pronounces it funny but here we go It is chaos in the Himalayas, a tiny... Himala-Himalayas! Himalaya! She said Himalaya! Chaos in the Himalayas! It is chaos in the Himalayas The tiny country of Nepal has been gripped by violence The parliament was on fire Ministers were thrashed on the streets The Supreme Court was torched And the capital of Kathmandu was overrun This wasn't just a protest, it was a total upheaval. The biggest exit came around noon today. Prime Minister KP Sharma only announced his resignation he simply couldn't hang on

1:28:36 Oli had unleashed a crackdown on Monday. It was the worst in Nepal's recent history. Nineteen protesters were killed, plus at least 100 were injured and today the backlash was evident. Thousands of protesters hit the streets of Nepal. Oli's own private residence was torched. The Prime Minister had no choice. He announced his resignation later in the day he said he was quitting to allow a political solution to the crisis Soon afterwards, an army helicopter was seen over his house. It ferried Oli away from the chaos to where? Well nobody knows yet but what exactly is the root of this crisis and how did it escalate so fast The trigger was a social media ban Last week Kathmandu blocked 26 online platforms including Instagram and Facebook In response thousands of young Nepalese hit the streets

1:29:29 Now Nepal as you would know is a young country. Around 43% of the population is below 40 years of age, so the protesters were largely Gen Z. There you go! I'm looking at the headlines here why Gen Z has taken over the streets in Nepal? Yeah. The Paul protest that Gen Z protests and Nepal urgent or is organic or deep state regime change Oh well there was fascinating... There were a lot of professionally printed signs So that to me was like, uh-huh. Okay but blocking 26 social media sites That's when people lose their crap! That's what I keep telling you if you really want to upset Americans Well that's why Trump couldn't follow through with banning TikTok Yes He either killed their dogs... He promised back in 2019 he was gonna ban TikTok Now we're almost 10 years later Nooo You can't do that

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Apple iPhone 17 and AirPods Pro 3 Launch

Apple unveiled its new product lineup, including the iPhone 17, Apple Watch Series 11, and AirPods Pro 3. The new devices feature health-monitoring capabilities such as high blood pressure alerts and heart rate sensing. The hosts criticize the lack of promised AI features and the increasing size and weight of the flagship phones.

apple· iphone 17· airpods pro 3· apple watch series 11· blood pressure· heart rate· ai

1:30:28 You can't do that. Americans care about two things, you win the election by saying they're eating the dogs That's how you win an election. You lose if you take away their TikTok or anything for that matter anything Right in time for the brand new Apple iPhones. Apple unveiled new iPhones, AirPods and watches today. The new iPhone 17 has a faster chip better scratch resistance, a smoother screen and comes in new colors at $799 dollars. The pro version has a new design, a better zoom and a bigger battery And it's the most expensive at one thousand ninety nine dollars

1:31:09 And the new, brand-new iPhone Air is a thinner version of the flagship iPhone. It starts at $999. The new Apple Watch Series 11 will be able to alert users to possible high blood pressure and new AirPods Pro 3 include heart rate sensing and improved noise cancellation. All the new products will be available September 19th. Yeah hello 2015 called Apple they want their new iPhones back this company Are they crazy? They promised AI for a whole year and half. Oh, that's not coming we're not going to do that. Whoa it's thin! It's thin! The actual weight of the iPhone 17 Air is the same weight as the iPhone 11 Is that right? Yeah they've just packed more crap and made them big These phones are also huge

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Oracle Stock Surge and Larry Ellison's Net Worth

Oracle shares surged nearly 36% following a bullish revenue forecast, briefly making founder Larry Ellison the world's richest person. The growth is attributed to massive cloud infrastructure contracts, including a deal with OpenAI to develop 4 gigawatts of data center capacity. The hosts compare Ellison's long-standing rivalry with Bill Gates and question the long-term profitability of the AI boom.

oracle· larry ellison· elon musk· openai· cloud infrastructure· data centers· bill gates

1:32:04 They're huge. Women can barely hold them in their hands anymore. Well, the bigger they are the easier they are to steal Yeah well that's true But things are going crazy in technology This story... How crazy are they going? Well, I'm glad you asked. I have a two-parter about Oracle! And let's get a business update now with Sheryl Pelligran beginning with Elon Musk briefly losing his position as the world's richest person That's right Oliver it was brief but it did happen on Wednesday tech billionaire Larry Ellison overtook Musk

1:32:41 In the Bloomberg Billionaires Index after Oracle, business software company he has a 41% stake in saw its shares surge after releasing better than expected financial forecasts. At one point, those shares rose more than 40% before closing the session up almost 36%, at over $328 a share. So that meant the 81-year old shot up to the top of the rankings for a bit with a net worth much larger than the entire GDP of Nigeria this year for instance but this Thursday Musk and the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX took his place back at the top of the rankings

1:33:19 dominated by the men that control the largest US tech firms as you can see there like Mark Zuckerberg at Meta and third place Bezos at Amazon or Larry Page one of the founders at Google. Worth noting that Elon Ellison and Musk have a close relationship. Some saying Ellison was a bit of a mentor to Musk sitting on the board at Tesla for four years and providing financial assistance for Musk to buy Twitter in 2022, they also share similar politics." So first of all the robber barons clear list there you go it's all tech guys but this Oracle shares surging was mania

1:34:03 Yeah, it's pretty funny. This is the second part of the report! So what was behind this sudden surge in articles shares and in Ellison's net worth? Well an earnings call with analysts that left all of Wall Street slack-jawed using words like blown away or momentous or in shock The software company said it actually missed its earnings and revenue targets for the quarter but it was its forecast which really wowed everyone, specifically on its cloud infrastructure business. Oracle said it had signed four multi-billion dollar contracts in that sector with three different customers this quarter one of which were with a Chad GPT maker OpenAI to develop over 4 gigawatts of US data center capacity It's predicting that its cloud business will boom over the next

1:34:51 four years, generating $18 billion in revenue this year and reaching as you can see there a hundred forty-four billion dollars in fiscal twenty thirty. Nevertheless there is some risk there notably with the open AI deal the startup might be a huge name and generating a lot of excitement but it's not expected to generate any profit before 2029. Dude this is Pets.com level missed their earnings, missed the revenue. It's not even close it's way beyond pets dot com. It's not even close to pets dot com was a short-term flash in the pan interesting idea which actually probably wasn't a bad idea I could have made money but this

1:35:33 This is ridiculous. And the thing about pushing it out to 2029 is the thing that's a real, it just hilarious. But all I mean, I can't wait until they're talking about 149 billion. Yeah, we're talking about you know Defense Department levels? Yes with no product. No, and all that Ellison has ever said is well just imagine that Larry there's a bunch of pictures of him floating around you know the guys like 82 now he's got a Cheshire cat grin it doesn't even look like him anymore it's like uh he's just got well I did it because Larry's thing back in the 80s when Bill Gates was the richest man in the world yeah

1:36:25 He was always... This was known in the Valley, kind of if you knew there ever was this milieu. Ellison was irked as hell that Bill Gates who he thought was an idiot was the richest man in the world and he thought he should be the richest man in the world and he was mocked by a lot of the locals for being, oh he wants to be the richest man in the world. That's all he cares about. He'll never do it because Bill Gates will always outpace him cause Gates is really smarter and he finally made it. So let's just go back and listen to this from July when we, when the whole

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Larry Ellison on AI Cancer Vaccines and Surveillance

During a "Stargate" launch event, Larry Ellison detailed his vision for AI-driven healthcare, including 48-hour personalized mRNA cancer vaccines. He also described a future where AI constantly monitors police body cameras and citizen activities to ensure "best behavior." The hosts compare this vision of total surveillance to the television series Black Mirror.

larry ellison· ai· cancer vaccine· mrna· stargate· surveillance· police body cams

1:37:10 Stargate thing was announced. I think this is it. Thank you, Mr President One of the most exciting things we're working on again using the tools that Sam and Masa are providing Is a cancer vaccine It's very interesting Early diagnosis turns out all of our cancers Cancer tumors little fragments of those tumors float around in your blood So you can do early cancer detection with a blood test. And using a... From what's that lady? The blood test from, what's her name? Holmes. Elizabeth Holmes. And we're using AI to look at the blood test you can find the cancers that are actually seriously threatening the person then beyond that here we go once we gene sequence once we gene sequenced that cancer tumor

1:38:12 You can then vaccinate the person, design a vaccine for every individual person to vaccinate them against that cancer. And you can make that vaccine, the mRNA vaccine. You can make that robotically again using AI in about 48 hours so imagine early cancer detection the development of a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed at you and have had that vaccine available in 48 hours This is the promise of AI and the promise of the future. So he's predicting 10x what he's doing now, missing the revenue and profit targets by 2029 does that mean we'll have 10 x the cancer? Because clearly if you're doing all this people have cancer or is this all just in case? Well I'm confused

1:39:13 Because I don't know that they're doing this at all. Well, this was during the Stargate launch! This is what Oracle is doing with their AI Yeah but where's the evidence that it's actually being implemented? None of... there's none of it and then he had this little diddy about Stargate This is great because not only will we all have cancer We'll also be hunted down by the cops The police will be on their best behavior Because we record, we're constantly recording watching and recording everything that's going on. Citizens will be on their best behavior because were constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on. This is like Black Mirror

1:39:53 And it's unimpeachable. The cars have cameras on them, right? Everything has cameras! We have a squad car here somewhere. But those kind of applications using AI... If we can use AI and we're using AI to monitor the video so if that altercation had occurred in Memphis the chief of police would be immediately notified. Where was the monitoring of Epstein Cell with your AI Larry? It's not people that are looking at those cameras, it is AI that is looking at the camera. No no no! You can't do this. It would be like a shooting. That's going to be immediately an event that will immediately... An alarm is going off and we're gonna have supervision. In other words every police officer is going to be supervised at all times

1:40:42 And the supervision will, and if there's a problem AI will report the problem and then report it to the appropriate person. Whether it's the sheriff or the chief for whomever we need to take control of this situation. He is describing a bad Simpsons episode here So... We'll all be safe but we'll all have cancer I mean come on Larry you can't have it both ways MIT just came out with their report, the state of AI in business 2025. We'll just take MI... I mean you would you trust an MIT report? It depends on how they document it. I probably would. Executive summary

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MIT Report on Generative AI Divide

An MIT report titled "The State of AI in Business 2025" reveals that 95% of organizations are seeing zero return on their generative AI investments. The report identifies an "Enterprise Paradox" where large firms lead in pilot programs but fail to scale them effectively. The hosts discuss how AI tools currently enhance individual productivity but lack measurable impact on corporate balance sheets.

mit· generative ai· enterprise paradox· p&l· chatgpt· copilot· investment

1:41:27 Despite 30 to 40 billion dollar in enterprise investment into Gen AI, which I think...I'm not sure what that means anymore. This report...Gen? Oh generative okay Was it generative is a general...generative means generative So making songs on Suno Is that generative? Making art for the no-gen show So they spent thirty billion dollars in enterprise investments and we've got art Yeah, well we got 30 billion dollars worth of art. For free! 30 billion dollars? Come on! This is a good deal!

1:42:06 In that 95% of organizations are getting zero return. What? We talked about this about three or four shows ago when JC, who's the AI expert in the family discussed the fact that a major AI company that makes some product that is important to the AI world They did a deep dive into this and found that 1,000 out of 1000 examples they could not find any benefits from using AI. The outcomes are so starkly divided across both buyers enterprises mid-market small medium businesses and builders startups vendors consultancies that we call it the Gen A divide

1:42:52 Just 5% of integrated AI pilots were extracting millions in value, while the vast majority remained stuck with no measurable P&L impact. That's your balance sheet! This divide does not seem to be driven by model quality or regulation but seems to be determined by approach Tools like chat GPT and copilot are widely adopted. Over 80% of organizations have explored or piloted them, and nearly 40% report deployment But these tools primarily enhance individual productivity Like making art for the no agenda show when you should be working for your boss Or asking error about the... About World War II! About Article 4! She gave us that information it was a benefit to the show Productivity right there but

1:43:41 No P&L performance. Meanwhile, enterprise-grade systems custom or vendor sold are being quietly rejected 60% of organizations evaluated such tools but only 20 percent reached pilot stage and just 5 percent reach production Most failed due to brittle workflows lack of contextual learning and misalignment with day-to-day operations I think that's MIT speak for it sucks From our interview, surveys and analysis of 300 public implementations four patterns emerged that define the Gen A divide.

1:44:18 Limited disruption. Only two of eight major sectors show meaningful structural change Enterprise paradox, ooh that's a good one Big firms lead in pilot volume but lag in scale-up Investment bias Budgets favor visible top line functions over high ROI back office An implementation advantage External partnerships see twice the success rate of internal builds This is a very damning report I'd say what was that paradox phrase? That's a good one, isn't it enterprise paradox. That's that's a show title. I know I'm writing it down Enterprise Paradox Yeah, but don't worry about it and you know It's making cool art yeah, but by 2029 little shake out 10x

1:45:08 What's the TAM, Larry? It's gonna be 10x. It's gonna be beautiful! Hey, Larry got what he really wanted... Now he doesn't care Oh, he just wants to be the richest man briefly He just wants to be the richest man in the world for a moment in time Yeah And he has achieved that and so now we can just forget about it Uh yeah Gen AI divide Gen AI Are we going to see that as next after gen alpha We have Gen AI Well, it's not... doesn't mean generation. So no Not yet! They'll be drinking Gatorade for the electrolytes No, he uses it to grow crops To grow crops Because it has electrolyte Exactly Yes I did get a boots on the ground from Carson Who is Gen Z

CHAPTER 22 / 37 Discussion

Gen Z Password Literacy and Tech Literacy

A "boots on the ground" report from a college bookstore employee highlights a lack of basic technical literacy among Gen Z students, specifically regarding password resets. The hosts discuss how the shift toward "Sign in with Google" or Apple has removed the need for users to understand underlying account security. They lament the decline of formal computer literacy classes in schools.

gen z· password reset· tech literacy· google login· chromebooks· computer literacy· bookstore

1:46:02 and works at a college bookstore that sells textbooks including digital books. A Gen Z customer came in this semester and said, the digital book we sold her didn't work! It gets better... She then explained that she wasn't able to log into the website that the book is hosted on quote I can't remember my password she tells me I guess i need to make a new account Now, I've heard this myself. I asked her if she'd clicked on the forgotten password button and she stared at me as if I had just spoken in tongues! She clicks on the reset password link and stares at me again like I'm the only one who can do it. Just put your email in there so you can reset your password, I instruct. She had absolutely no concept of what I was explaining and I had to handhold her through the entire thing

1:46:57 Being a member of Gen Z myself, I'm ashamed of my contemporaries for not even being able to complete a basic task such as this. However...I place the blame primarily on the parents, of course." Wow! Can we add that to the list? Don't know how to reset passwords? What would you call it though, what category does it go into. It's not simple enough to...it's like a... But I have heard- Just basically a version of stupid! I have heard this oh I guess I have to make a new account. I've heard this. It's like not understanding what password do or what they're for Or how they function. I am really baffled Yeah How they function

1:47:43 I mean, for one thing it's always assumed that different generations have a different relationship with computers. Not technology in general but just computers. Yeah phones, phones! Well and well phones which are computers in your pocket. Not in yours? Nope, its' in the drawer and I don't need to be hooked to a computer 24-7 so So they have a different relationship because there's kids, oh they were brought up. They never knew an era when there was no internet! They never knew an era when there was no computers. They never knew this, they never knew that because you know, there was an internet when they were born all this sort of thing and so we, so the Zeds which I'm gonna now call them cause I like it. The Zeds? Gen-Zed. Gen-zed. So what is just zeds to me? The Zeds okay

1:48:41 The Zeds are, what circumstance? Everything was there and they were raised with computers with the network with it. With the internet, with networks, with Wi-Fi, with cell phones, everything every single thing that's available out there and they don't know how to use it? I think in this particular case what is happening because of the phones once you sign into Apple or Google That's it. You just click sign up you don't do a password anymore, you know Well, you may not know this but that's how most phones work these days if you're on Android you sign into your Google and everything just works and if there's some new app or a new website signing with Google click

1:49:33 And Apple kind of has the same thing, but not to that extent. But I think everybody has a Google and just oh just sign in with Google. Just sign in with Google! They don't understand what's happening in the background and that all your information is being sucked up by Google. Isn't this taught in high school? Oh please... Don't they teach kids in high school how to use a computer? No Well sure they do how to stick a paperclip in it to make it blow up in class in your Chromebook That's what their teaching them No, no there's no computer. No knowledge like that It's called computer literacy? They used to have a class in some schools You're presuming... Called computer literacy and you take the class Have you ever seen today's typical middle school teacher they're not that literate on computers either Doesn't work My computer doesn't work How many dudes named Ben do we have who've heard this my password doesn't work well why don't you take the caps lock off

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Ursula von der Leyen Global Health Initiative

Ursula von der Leyen revealed her background as a trained medical doctor while announcing a new "Global Health Resilience Initiative" for the European Union. The initiative aims to combat vaccine disinformation regarding diseases like measles and polio. The hosts express surprise at her medical credentials and link them to her close relationship with the pharmaceutical industry.

ursula von der leyen· medical doctor· vaccines· global health resilience initiative· measles· polio· disinformation

1:50:32 This happens all the time. That's nine-tenths of the problem right there, caps lock. All right I got to go back to Ursula because did we know this or did we not know this? We are on the brink if not even at the start of another global health crisis and as a... Now a global health crisis Now we know that, of course we're on the brink of a global health crisis because people aren't vaccinating anymore but this next piece I'm not so sure i knew this. Of another global health crisis and as a... As a medical doctor by training What? Did we know this? Do we know that she's a medical doctor by training Why did why did I not know this Well I didn't know it either let me look her up what's uh Hold on a second error

1:51:31 Is Ursula von der Leyen a medical doctor by training? Yes. Ursula von der Leyen trained as a medical doctor She studied at Hanover Medical School, earned her MD in 1987 and even worked as an assistant physician before jumping into politics Oh... nurse Assistant physician Well she got her MD apparently I was unaware No wonder she was on the cahoots with Birla and the whole pharma industry I'm not saying all doctors are like this, but wow! I didn't know this. As a medical doctor by training i am appalled by the disinformation that threatens global progress on everything from measles to polio. Ah vaccines! It's the vaccines! Anti-vaxxers stop it now we can't have that

1:52:31 And this is why today I can announce that the European Union will head a new global health resilience initiative. That's sure to make everyone sick, yeah global health resilience initiative oh please Well, here is the global health initiative in the United States from Maha. Maha! Maha! From Maha RFK Jr.. The Make America Healthy Again Commission released recommendations yesterday to improve children's health They're calling it quote make our children healthy again Okay marketing mistake Marketing mistake? Make our children healthy again What's that mocha

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RFK Jr. Make Our Children Healthy Again Commission

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. released 128 recommendations from the "Make Our Children Healthy Again" (MOCHA) commission. The proposals focus on removing chemical additives from food, limiting microplastics, and addressing concerns over fluoride and electromagnetic radiation. Media critics have dismissed the recommendations as lacking factual basis, while Kennedy claims they stem from consultations with farmers and doctors.

rfk jr· robert f kennedy jr· maha· mocha· microplastics· fluoride· vaccines

1:53:16 M...M...Bohica. No, make our children healthy again! Mocha! It's mocha! make our children mocha. No! How about... Was this official or is this something the media dreamed up? Oh, who knows The commission is planning to start new studies and improve collaboration between health agencies Some specific things they will work on will be improving air and water quality limiting microplastics removing chemical additives from food increasing breastfeeding rates. Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr is the chair of this commission. A lot of these 128 recommendations are things that I've been dreaming about my whole life, I've been working for in congressional campaigns and presidential campaigns for other candidates and they get into office and they say well we can't do it

1:54:10 Kennedy says some of the ideas came from discussions with farmers, teachers and doctors. The report also focuses on harm from vaccines electromagnetic radiation and fluoride but medical experts have said those ideals are not based in factual information it's not factual people Just go to sleep, everything's okay. Pay no attention to the guy with the gravelly voice But this one has our attention because this is the next step Not quite the final nail in the coffin but it's a good start This is about the executive order The president just signed an executive order making some news here when it comes to pharmaceutical ads Yeah, the president just signed an executive order that's been historic change

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Executive Order on Pharmaceutical Advertising Side Effects

A new executive order aims to reinstate 1997-era rules requiring pharmaceutical companies to list all side effects in television advertisements. The hosts suggest this move will result in much longer commercials, potentially benefiting cable news revenue in the short term while discouraging drug companies from advertising due to the negative impact of long side-effect lists.

executive order· fda· pharmaceutical ads· side effects· cable news· direct-to-consumer· rfk jr

1:54:58 in the way that pharmaceutical advertising is done on television. And the order basically reinstates or gives us now the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules. Prior to 1997, pharmaceutical advertisers were required to put all those side effects on their ads. Many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened... Because what it did to the length of the advertising And the removal of that requirement, in 1997 FDA changed the rule to allow them to report those side effects on a website or on a telephone. They only had to report a few of them on television and that triggered proliferation of these ads. There's only two countries in the world allowed direct consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies on television

1:55:53 or one of those countries, New Zealand is the other. It's had a disastrous impact on human health and people's relationships with their doctors and really on the entire gestalt where Americans are led to believe that there is a pill for every ill and you don't have to exercise, pay attention to your diet whatever goes wrong with you can be fixed with a drug So how much does this change the dynamic? For pharmaceutical companies that have been advertising on all kinds of channels, even online. They're going to have to do a lot more specifically. They are going to have to report all their side effects In some cases I might create an advertisement that's four minutes long Back prior to 1997 Advertising in magazines had page after page after side effects reported

1:56:45 And so we don't know exactly what it will do, but we know it's going to be better for the health of America. Now I don't about you but I think this is a genius idea because it only benefits cable news if pharmaceutical ads will be longer that shortens the availability on a 24 hour 60 minute time clock raising the prices to get in with any advertisement It also informs the public about all the stuff it's going to give you, which as we know is not good. I think this is a good move! I think this is just a step in the right direction But a good move nonetheless

1:57:36 Yeah, it's not a bad move. But I still think what happened to you they decided this memo came out we played as much eclipse recently and they're going after Kennedy they did with the hearings there yelling and screaming at him and then walking out that Elizabeth Warren being the best example We didn't play too many of those clips. But it was pretty ridiculous and it was part of a concerted effort, this is the salvo, that was the salvo, this was the retort, this was the response and I think its always been in his back pocket he says you go after me, make my life miserable, I'm gonna take away your TV advertising so I think this one step but he wants to keep something in his pockets

1:58:20 complete ban, which I think is the long-term goal and what should happen... Let's hope so. ...is a complete ban of these ads. Let's hope so So I think this was just, this is political. Well yes but it keeps the cable news companies in business for a bit longer Yes and that may have been just to assuage them look you're going to make a lot of money with these extended ads Shut up! No way they are going to do 30 seconds They can't do 30 seconds It's at least 2 minute ad maybe longer so your gonna make a bunch of money but get ready for it You're gonna get cut off eventually They have to know that

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FDA Ivermectin Update and 9/11 Anniversary

Maria Bartiromo and Senator Ron Johnson discuss the FDA's updated stance on Ivermectin, which now acknowledges the drug's use for COVID-19. The hosts note that acknowledging effective treatments earlier would have legally prevented the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for vaccines. The segment concludes with a final reminder of the September 11th anniversary and the "found passport" narrative.

fda· ivermectin· covid-19· maria bartiromo· ron johnson· eua· passport

1:59:44 And my, my, my how things change. Here's the money honey with the latest. We learned this morning that the FDA is now saying that it's okay to take ivermectin if you have COVID. I mean Senator, I remember talking with you repeatedly during COVID about your upset that you were, they were trying to cancel you because you were talking to doctors to try and find out the right ways to treat COVID without having too many boosters and COVID shots. My COVID was gone in a day when I took ivermectin and now three years later the FDA says oh yeah it's fine take ivermectin what? What! Oh money honey please

2:00:34 She's just discovering that there is a new sheriff in town. What? How can this be? Because it was always like that It was always like that But I'd like to see... You can't have the emergency use authorization if there is treatment for the product Exactly Or for the disease, I'm sorry For the disease so you cant get the EUA No you said it right A treatment for the product Yeah treatment for the product You said it right the first time I did and truth has to come out And so Because of that one aspect alone, not to mention hydroxychloroquine they had to banish it. No no you can't take this, no good!

2:01:15 And just remember we found the passport from the terrorists right there on the ground. I mean, this... The world is a scam people Gen Zers you're being scammed all the time except on this show and with that i want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the mocha Say hello my friend on the other end the one the only Mr John C DeMora And the morning to you, my shadow courier and marning ship. Seaboots at the ground! Feet in the air, subs in the water and the dames and knights out there. And the morning to you... Trolls in the troll room now all right what do you think the peak was on today's show? Today is a Thursday I would say that maybe 1900 2834 Yeah well that's because of the news yes The news drives the show That's right

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Inception Point AI and Podcast Slop

A new company, Inception Point AI, plans to flood the podcasting market with 5,000 AI-generated shows produced for $1 per episode. The hosts discuss the rise of "AI Slop" and whether the Podcast Index should filter or label such content. They emphasize their commitment to an open, uncensored index while noting that many in the industry are calling for bans on AI-generated audio.

inception point ai· janine wright· ai podcasts· podcast index· brittany luce· npr· censorship

2:02:10 That's right. And those people have discovered that yes, it does actually work you can listen again Welcome back everybody we're glad to have you here But for how long? How long will we be here? It depends on what happens next week Well probably nothing unless they find the shooter I'll tell you why I say this big news in the podcasting industry Big big news Inception point AI a new well-funded company CEO is Janine Wright. I think she was at Wondercraft or what was she? She was at some other company, she made some money punched out. She has made a new company Inception Point AI and they are betting on flooding the zone with audio content all AI generated 5000 podcasts 3000 episodes a week

2:03:12 Well, 5,000 podcasts. You know the funny thing is she thinks that's a lot But there are 4.5 million podcasts and over, what did you say? 100 or 200 thousand active podcasts. It's about 400 thousand on a monthly basis. Okay there is 400 thousand on a monthly basis of people that are podcasting and continuing to podcast not just one offs or these casual ones like you run into with the bigger number which is at the 4.5 million total Yeah So this has spit in the bucket Well, the thing is they are looking at the money and the way that money works... So all she's going to do is ruin it for everybody. Correct She saying I'm doing this at a cost of one dollar per episode

2:04:05 And so if you listen to, let's see we're going to wait. Does that include server time? Did that include downloads and the whole does that include the overhead? You can't do it for $1 an episode well that depends on how popular see in is she's looking at it across I don't think these these podcasts will be Well, what she says here is you can make... Yeah if there's nobody listening and you send out one download yeah I guess you could do it for a buck. Well she says we make money at 20 downloads a week It seems a little... So you may... that... Well listen to this is the title of this podcast is The Garden Podcast And its hosted by Nigel Thistledown Have a listen

2:04:54 Nigel Fisseldown, everybody. What's going on Texas? It's Bluff here! Oh wait I'm sorry first we have to get two ads in a row let me see if i can skip them. You've been tumbleweeds off your driveway? This is how they're gonna make money. Whether you're looking for a couple down and I must garden disasters... Here we go. ...I possess something of intelligence. Get inspired good to SierraClassic.com Good evening fellow garden survivors and connoisseurs of delightful disasters. I'm your host Nigel Fisseldown And I must once again reveal that I am an artificial intelligence, which proves absolutely invaluable for tonight's celebration of spectacular garden failures. You see while I may never personally experience the crushing disappointment of watching three years of careful planning collapse in a single afternoon thunderstorm... ...I possess something rather remarkable access to centuries have documented garden disasters meteorological catastrophes and horticultural mishaps from around the globe

2:05:49 Welcome to Garden and our final episode, The Great Garden Disasters. What do you think? I think people will listen to it No they won't Oh yes the people are already listening They're like well that was a very interesting episode This is his final episode Yeah i don't know that's just an AI glitch It's not the final episode And there's a knitting podcast But a knitting podcast? That's not going to make any sense. Well, here she says the company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less depending on length and complexity and attach programmatic advertising to it Do they have a Scrimshaw podcast? A Scrimshaw! What is Scrimshaw?!

2:06:37 That's where you carve little things, you take a tusk and start carving on it while your on the boat. Yeah like the white whale... what is it? Tusk? Is that it? White whale tusk? Nah, you know what I mean. Scrimshaw. No we don't! But they're pipes, don't they have scrimshaw pipes? Oh yeah, scrimshaw, but yeah, something like that. Anyway The sound of slop it's here. It's here look well I have a you got to play this not you bring this up mm-hmm There's counter programming already oh, oh here we go Do you ever open up social media see your post and wonder is this even real?

2:07:20 You're not alone. AI Slop, this mass produced low quality content is clogging the internet How about that xylophone in the background is making me want to clog you? You cannot trust that the news report you're seeing on TikTok is real footage. You cannot trust that there were views or reading of like the sneakers you want to buy are written by a human The Internet becomes less useful because you can't get information from it In the same way that you used to be able to I'm Brittany Luce, and on this episode of It's Been a Minute. I'm getting into how AI slop is clogging the internet and your brain and what you can do to get away from it hit the button below to listen now.

2:08:08 Pling plong, whoever thought that was a good idea. Pling plong plung plung! Yeah that's good. That's dynamite. Yeah that's NPR for you. Here is the dilemma though... So podcast index do we ingest these 5000 AI slop podcasts? Do we ban them? No, you can't ban them. Well we can! We have all the power I HAVE ALL THE POWER You have the power to ban but you cant... you cant do it Do we mark them? Should we mark as lame? NO Or slop No? Why would I bother? They're just indexed. You know, you yourself... That would ruin the whole podcasting 2.0 idea because the idea was freedom freedom freedom! Yack yack yak and then this comes out and oh we could have more freedom! Hold on

2:09:05 That's not my position, but there are many in the podcast industrial complex who are calling for this. Who are calling for marking it as AI? Who are calling for banning it outright? I'm not saying... Dave Jones and I are very clear As long as you've got an enclosure You could podcast a PDF, I don't really care But this is a real conversation People who make their money Yeah, that's because they're under like I don't care what system you set up. There's an underbelly of people that want things censored Yes, that's yourself with the Charlie Kirk stuff at the beginning of the show where you're upset about it You could throw that right back at him What about Charlie Kirk?

2:09:52 You think we should be shot because we're gonna let this go in? They registered it as a podcast, they follow the rules. They have the enclosure. They put it into 2.0 system so what are you going to do about it?" Interestingly enough, the same people who want this AI stuff banned would also love to see Charlie Kirk banned. Yeah of course! That's the point, that's the underbelly. It's the same people yep Same people, the same people who say... Tell them to set up their own podcasting 2.0 index! The same people who say oh I hope Homeland Security will let me into the country for the conference So much of that so much of that my own sister did that she's in New York for a wedding Willow has an American passport her husband doesn't

2:10:42 And she said, it's been a good trip. We didn't get stopped at the border by Border Patrol. What is this? Has everybody somehow everyone's afraid that America rousts you the minute you come into the country? Does she listen to the show? No no one does not a single person in my family who listens to this show How about you? I think the last person who listened was Don's wife Oh yeah but listened to it once Not knowing she was a spook and she took, it should have been a clue. She had notes on a piece of paper Well I think you guys are very patriotic. I think you're right. Fareed Zakaria is anti-constitutional And uh...very interesting program! I had no idea like wow Meg thanks! I had no idea she ran the Russia desk What did I know? That's how good she was Should've been a clue

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Value for Value and AI in Creative Arts

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model as a defense against de-platforming on services like Spotify. They explore the impact of AI on creative professions, noting that while AI can produce professional-sounding song demos and graphic art, it lacks the unique human element. They argue that the podcast's community-driven model is difficult for AI to replicate.

value for value· spotify· fair use· graphic design· nashville· songwriting· suno

2:11:38 Hey, you can get these podcasts this podcast specifically on a modern podcast app which is connected to the Podcast Index Which is important because when someone de-platform your favorite podcast and it happens all the time Episodes specifically episodes on Spotify get removed all the time Certainly if you play we couldn't were not on Spotify because we don't we won't sign their agreements You know, you have to sign an agreement so they can put ads in whenever they want. If you play any music in a podcast episode that the algorithms identify as possibly copyrighted music which let's be honest is 80% of all of the fair use

2:12:27 end of show mixes, fair use because it's parody and relatable to the news that we are discussing. Parodies are all legal! Your episode just gets deleted no questions asked yeah and no recourse right so you don't want that you want a modern podcast nobody wants that but people accept it like oh well I guess they got the platform okay So you want to get something for podcastapps.com and go look at the podcast index all the information is there, there's a little apps tab as well you can see how it works and what's in there and it's all on the up-and-up! And even the AI slop will be in there without any censorship or deplatforming. Nvalue4Value almost 18 years almost 1800 episodes

2:13:13 We still get to do this every single Thursday and Sunday. It's amazing that you have allowed us to do that, we are so excited every single time to perform this as a public service for you. Time talent... I love my job and I love what i do! Time talent and treasure is how we've kept it rolling You hear the boots on the ground yeah? I mean I didn't just find the report on MIT no we have someone who actually works in the business said look I got this report fresh off the press here it is for you That is very valuable And we also have $40 billion worth of artwork machinery at our disposal. And I could not be happier about it, you put this in a new light for me! This is great! 40 to 60 billion dollars worth of investment is made so that we can have cover art for every single show. However the artwork for episode 1797 which was titled Death Buses

2:14:09 was done by a professional who knows what he's doing. And this was Sir Shug, aka Fo Diddley who deconstructed the Austin...the new 1.2 million dollar Austin logo to create a new No Agenda logo Do you think this was AI deconstructed or is this did he do this in Photoshop? What do you think? This has to be a Photoshop job. I think so, too it just didn't feel like AIs not good. Yeah, I can see where you could take and cut out that Austin thing and move things around a little bit and drop the no agenda label and curry Dvorak and

2:14:47 easier. There's no way that AI could work that, do that it'd be prompting all day. What? We're not near professor level intelligence what is no way there's no way It was good and everyone who saw it immediately said, oh that's great. That what makes a great piece of art. Well that if they all noticed what the logo looked like. I only care about my friends and I don't care about anybody else. Of course I don't care about anybody else. Now there were other pieces of art we looked at

2:15:24 By the way, if Sir Shug is listening which he probably is yes And he did that using AI in any way. Yeah Which system did you use? Unless he said yeah I give me a yellow background except for that maybe that maybe that uh...I would like to know if AI was involved and I am absolutely convinced there's no chance It's really amazing what AI is doing. And it's really with things that there was already, I mean is there really a business for graphic designers anymore? I mean really? Unless you're working for the city of Austin and you just overcharge him and say look here's what I did

2:16:09 Well, I have some friends who are professionals at the highest level. And how they do it? They've long since given up on...they gave up on the business. That's exactly my point! They've given up on it. No but they gave up before AI Why did they give up? because of all the free clip art that's available and spot art, there are just libraries and libraries full of it. And it was too hard to compete with it. In other words you can compete with it but you couldn't compete at the price levels. You couldn't get the top dollar used to be able to get 30 years ago for your spot art One of our producers is a songwriter in Nashville and he sent me, he said look this is this is the song idea I had

2:16:54 Uh, and he sent a demo. You know how demos used to sound on cassette tape? Like... Someone's singing along kind of off key it's okay maybe you got a good singer to come in it doesn't really sound professional but its okay and then you give that to the label and the label then takes it gets an artist to record it boom Bob is your uncle you've go some money if it's a big name artists great This songwriter said, I just threw this into AI myself and listen to this. And it was like completely done like a Nashville song completely done right? Like it came out of the studio. It's just over now you'll always have something special someone new someone that does something that the AI is not yet done. That's always going to happen. That will always be the case

2:17:49 And people will take note of it and it will be successful. But still, even then with streaming and Spotify there's no money in it so we're just gonna have to deal with that I think. And now they're trying do that with podcasters but can anyone really replicate what we do? Is that really possible? Eventually... Nah! I don't think so Yeah But probably the whole thing will collapse before that happens. But when I say eventually, I mean eventually like within 100 years. Oh okay well we'll go to the moon within a hundred years...I'm sure that'll happen! Maybe Until then no 40-60 billion dollars invested here No instead we depend on your support of the program this is unique in podcasting there's

2:18:39 There's not a lot of people who have done this successfully and certainly not for 18 years. And we believe it is because its an outstanding product, there's no other way to do value for value or as some say I work for tips! No, no-no we don't. People have supported us and we are eternally grateful for the opportunity to do this for you and the value that you return from whatever you receive from the program And today we have one of those examples of someone who has the means and the love for the show. Sironimus, of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia comes in once again with his mysterious number not ending in a two I might add so I don't know if he had $2 bills but today he always has $2 bills you don't have to keep wondering He had six of them in this donation 3141 dollars

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Producer Donations and Matching Alerts

The hosts acknowledge major donations from producers, including a significant contribution from Sironimus of Dogpatch. Sironimus provides travel tips for the EU and mentions a recent visit to the West Bank. Sir Scovey facilitates a series of matching donations, and other producers share personal anecdotes regarding pharmaceutical ads and the death of Charlie Kirk.

sironimus· dogpatch· west bank· sir scovey· matching donations· zepbound· charlie kirk

2:17:49 And people will take note of it and it will be successful. But still, even then with streaming and Spotify there's no money in it so we're just gonna have to deal with that I think. And now they're trying do that with podcasters but can anyone really replicate what we do? Is that really possible? Eventually... Nah! I don't think so Yeah But probably the whole thing will collapse before that happens. But when I say eventually, I mean eventually like within 100 years. Oh okay well we'll go to the moon within a hundred years...I'm sure that'll happen! Maybe Until then no 40-60 billion dollars invested here No instead we depend on your support of the program this is unique in podcasting there's

2:18:39 There's not a lot of people who have done this successfully and certainly not for 18 years. And we believe it is because its an outstanding product, there's no other way to do value for value or as some say I work for tips! No, no-no we don't. People have supported us and we are eternally grateful for the opportunity to do this for you and the value that you return from whatever you receive from the program And today we have one of those examples of someone who has the means and the love for the show. Sironimus, of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia comes in once again with his mysterious number not ending in a two I might add so I don't know if he had $2 bills but today he always has $2 bills you don't have to keep wondering He had six of them in this donation 3141 dollars

2:19:31 Yeah. Which we are so grateful for and you have a note I have on my thing right here, do you have a note? I have a note in fact... I didn't get a copy of said notes that's usually I got a scanned copy of the note You do! But why not today?! Because Jay is in Seattle Oh, so she didn't have the note No, I had to know it Okay alright, you don't have a scanner you got printers all over the house no scanner I have a scanner. Well, you should've scanned it for me! It's easier to write John has note which is three words on the memo to Jay directly Okay as long they don't have to copy down any information then... Oh what? Yeah it's funny because this is the first time Anonymous asked for about eight

2:20:21 Clips. I doubt it! He did? No he didn't Okay, here we go. It's too much travel again causing delays in producership he writes This donation includes any cash processing fee. Cash... Yeah, and then he says this I'm gonna read this but I can assure you that we don't do this and I'm sorry to say personally I recommend not depositing cash but adding it to your pallet of cash for future use no your palate We don't have a palette of cash. We put it in the bank so we can split it

2:20:59 At the end of the year, but at the same time make sure that it's documented So the IRS doesn't say hey these guys are taking cash money and putting to decide we don't do that No a note for travelers on the EU currency restrictions. Oh this now here We go take up to the limit of $10,000 and exchange US dollars cash at different currency exchanges In time, they may develop a method to capture passport numbers across different networks. But for now it allows you to have more than the currency limit and helps keep credit cards in your pocket reducing future fraud risk and offers the added benefit of annoying retailer checks that can't count, retailer clerks that can't count change

2:21:48 So we're talking about those areas that we've talked about on the show where you can't have more than $300. He says, hell with it! Take your 10 grand across the border and then go do a bunch of... You get a lot at 300 dollars to 200 or 300 here and there. So he says so just like- All right this is little tip? A little tip for the travelers Adam Yes Your view that some of our challenges the devil at work has merit but recall that life is a human endeavor and there's always been profound evil in the world. Amen! We are in total agreement. Small note, last month's shekels were from my visit to the West Bank yes he sent some shekels. He visited the West Bank? That's interesting yeah we're figuring it out for getting close My visit of the West Bank you know

2:22:44 The place Isa, a.k.a Jesus was born P-B-U-H which is peace be above him he's talking about Allah or about Muhammad that's Pibah refers to no jingles no karma John 175 words He's well within his budget. Well done and I believe he because although my the only one that complains about long notes is that what he's implying? That's, that's the reputation you have yes that's your reputation it doesn't mean its correct but reputations well is just a fact you can deal with any other way You got to rep! And thats'it so might as well say it Okay

2:23:35 Say what? Well, if you're being accused of the crime you might as well commit the crime. And tell people... It's not a crime to bitch about the people writing long notes that are too long for this show! No exactly What kind of a crime is that to complain? Now you can't complain it's a crime?! It's a figure of speech. Thank you, Seronimous. Now he receives a Secretary of Generalship I believe He never wants anything Well but it's...he got on the list Okay Let me just check because Jay just puts people on the list She just wants to send stuff out

2:24:12 I see, but no she doesn't. She's like, I can't wait to send... Yeah she put them on the list and i don't know what i'm going to do so i got it packaged in the mail It doesn't have anybody's name on it. I have no idea where it came from. It's from one of those places that printing operation the big one print for less or whatever it's called and its two envelops and each one of them had a very elaborate set of small No Agenda stickers Oh That's cool. Little silver stickers, they're about very small like half inch round stickers with a logo on them and no agenda and I got two sheets in two different envelopes within the package. I would like to know who sent those to me and what that they want us to use him for are they handsome stickers? Yeah, they're cute every day because it is a silver little silver sticker. Oh, uh, I'll take a couple put him on some trucks out here

2:25:12 No, it's too small. Oh okay We're talking a little bitty things they're like on a sheet of paper at the bottom maybe or is a stamp for the back of an envelope there no this wouldn't do any good on your laptop cover can we put on that? No it's too small for that yes they are small little stamp size stickers Sir Scovey is up next from Charlotte North Carolina and he comes in with nine nine nine nine nine matching donations alert In the morning to Alexander Wenta, Sir Sam and Charlotte in San Francisco for their donations of $333.33 to show 1797 thank you for your courage! All six donations have been matched but wait there's more

2:25:56 A seventh was matched because Charlotte in San Francisco not only mentioned the matching donation offer, but did so on a handwritten note. That's worthy of a match to the best podcast in the universe! Goat karma for the seven producers who made the matching donations possible. Love and light from Sir Scovey in Charlotte North Carolina and this concludes The Matching Donations And we thank you all very much producers who matched and of course Sir Scovey Thank you for your courage You've got Karma. It was nice of him to give that last extra one out. That's very kind, yes Sir your honest mechanic and he is in Easley South Carolina Easley yeah Easley there Is also known as Kevin Fusco 526 36 ITM fellas this is sir your honest mechanic I'm back

2:26:56 probably a month back in episode, or I'm back and this is probably a month back in episodes. So you've probably already, they spelled it right that time, already talked about this okay? One of my employees came to me and said our insurance sucks! The doctor prescribed my wife Zep Bound for her sleep apnea. No no He said the FDI just recently approved it. I had a great laugh when he said that and i thought, It's only a matter of time before these are good for erectile dysfunction like Adam keeps predicting! It's coming. Hey, I thought already happened well thank you to no jingles just karma for everyone Thank You Kevin Yes Well they kind of said it but they haven't actually advertised as erectile dysfunction

2:27:54 So, not quite but we're getting close. You've got karma. Matt Stephens Nahunta? Nahunta! I'm probably mispronouncing that in Georgia. Na-hun-tuh 350, Nahunta. 350.93. That's 333 plus 33 fees. Thank you both for your work in ceremony of Charlie Kirk please knight me Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plain Matt Stevens in Nahunta Georgia so he'll be the Sir Matthew of the lower coastal plains today and thank you Matt appreciate it

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Knighthood Ceremonies and Birthday Callouts

Several producers are elevated to the No Agenda Roundtable, including Sir Luca from Switzerland and Sir Joseph of the Central Jersey Swamps. Sir Luca requests "cancer karma" for his father using Ivermectin, while Sir Joseph promotes his band, The Gumbo Goombas. A "switcheroo" message is read for Chad and Beth Elliot's 31st wedding anniversary.

knighthood· sir luca· sir joseph· prostate cancer· ivermectin· gumbo goombas· anniversary

2:28:38 You can get the next one after I read Sir Joseph's note. He is in Ewing, New Jersey. This is the other note that came in. Well there are two notes here...two notes in a row and I don't have...I only have one note so I don't know what you're about to read Oh wait this is Sir Joseph's. I have the sheet from...I don't know where that other note is I have no yeah, I think that's the one attaches to PDF. I have Beth Beth Elliot or Chad Elliott Do I have I've Beth Elliott? That's the one I know that's that's so you see if sir Joe know this but there's Sir Joseph Yeah, I have Sir Joseph in my right might well Well why don't I just read this one then and he can do that which is what you really because we're then they were skipping sir Lucas sir Luca sir Luca So sir watch your research Luke and it will go from there from Switzerland

2:29:28 There are two kinds of people in the world, those who use the metric system and those who still use body parts and kitchen utensils as units of measurement. And fake the moon landings! This would be typical of a Swiss guy... And they fake the moon landings. Please I would appreciate if you gave a cancer karma, an F-cancer karma i'm sure for my father who is fighting a prostate cancer comeback with ivermectin, dog dewormer and supplements Yes we're familiar with this very good results I've heard please keep us informed. In October we will know if it worked lastly happy 51st birthday to me on September 11th thank you for your attention to this matter says Sir Luca. You've got karma! So this is sir Joseph of Ewing New Jersey he came with 333 and

2:30:24 was plugging something on his check, but I don't have the check here. But he says and also has a funny letterhead of gumbo goombas. Anyway, it's a character this Sir Joseph is Lord of the Central Jersey Swamp. If someone told me that I would someday donate $1,000 to a podcast, I would've told them that they needed their head examined Well, I need my head examined because this is the third donation 333.34 puts me into the knighthood category. I couldn't possibly ask you to kick in the penny considering... Oh he added it how much bitching John does about the lackluster donations of late. You know? I complain a lot

2:31:18 Please knight me Sir Joseph Lord of the Centro Jersey swamps and if you would, if you'd be so kind to provide... by the way this is in four-point type. So I'm struggling If you'd provide some gumbo parmesan and albata, albata beer. See this is exactly why you need to scan the notes because now I have to go into the system but gotta go into the show notes I've gotta say can you repeat that again? Yeah. What is it? Uh, yeah well I would have scanned the note if i'd known this was in there but I didn't read that. Oh very good. Please mention my band The Gumbo Goombas who can be found on my digital platform and I will be able to deduct the offering as an advertising expense on my taxes! Okay You know... It's between you and the IRS but it sounds like an ad for me for The Gumb- I said it already twice

2:32:17 Gumbo Goombas, that's three. P.S., I recently celebrated my 68th... Ah, but she's not on the birthday list. No another thing I gotta add Okay well gee i'm sorry you're gonna have to do some work. I'm struggling trying to read this note uh My 68th revolution and that was my fault because normally when I send these to Jay when she's floating around someplace else I will put the birthday call out on this it would have been on the thing and it would have been taken care of But that was my fault. Sir Joseph and he turned 68 when? I'm looking, he doesn't say And can you again give me what he wants for the round table because you still didn't tell me Yeah once for the round table He wants gumbo parmesan which i have no idea what that is and elata a lotta al oh i'm sorry El Bata ALB ITA beer

2:33:17 Albacia. Albita? A-L-B-I-T-A? Yeah, that's what it says. A L B I T A. Albita Well let me look close... Yeah! Okay That's not albata, that's albita Well again its a four point type so When you get in your 70s even with the cataract operation you can't read 4 point type I recently celebrated my 60th revolution." He goes on about that. Thank you for your attention to this matter, soon-to-be Joseph Lord of the Central Jersey Swamps. All right we've got it all! Then we have Beth Elliot who says in the morning John and Adam a written note and at this i also have not just a note but I have for some reason a scan of the check. It's pretty check

2:34:13 Assuming this arrives in time, can you please read this on Thursday September 11th show switcheroo for my smoking hot hubby of 31 years Chad who hit me in the mouth during COVID. Thank you for that and congrats! You are no longer a douchebag! Happy anniversary, sexy ass! She says. For jingles may I have they're eating the dogs? I got hairy legs and little girl yay thank you gentlemen for your courage and in all uppercase for your attention to this matter yours truly Beth PS Chad says I listen to y'all too much They are eating the dogs! I got hairy legs! Yay! Alright

CHAPTER 31 / 37 Discussion

Final Donations and Port Angeles Meetup Logistics

The final segment of donations includes messages from Eli the Coffee Guy and Linda Lou Patkin. The hosts discuss a technical mishap involving an Audacity project file sent for a Port Angeles meetup promo. They coordinate with "trolls" in the live chat to fix the audio file so it can be played, while also mentioning an upcoming meetup in Oakland.

eli the coffee guy· linda lou patkin· mimi smith dvorak· port angeles· audacity· oakland· meetup

2:34:54 Now we have Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms, our buddy in Northville Michigan 2772. Good to hear from you sir Cal Even though this is not true. I think it's about time. I show my appreciation for all you do he does all that constantly Thank you, happy birthday Adam which is a little late but there it is and RIPCK Sir Cal sir Kyle You've been around for a long time and have supported us a lot so thank you very much No yeah Hey Eli the Coffee Guy is about to round it out. We have a couple more for he's from Bensonville, Illinois 20911 there it is here's always with the date 9-11 Normally I would try to write something witty along with a plug for GigaWattCoffee But I was in the middle of drafting my donation dote when I received a text that Charlie Kirk had been shot

2:35:42 Although I didn't listen to him much, I just want to express my sorrow. Any political killing tears at the fabric of our nation. I mourn the death of Kirk and also mourned the last 25 years since that fateful morning in September that sent planes crashing into buildings. I miss the world before that future generations will never know. I am concerned about what they shall inherit. I'm sure this event and the following media circus will help usher in new security measures and even greater loss of freedoms. Thank you for pointing out the BS, says Eli the coffee guy. Linda Lou Patkins up! And she's in Lakewood Colorado 200 bucks is once jobs karma and she says worried about AI? For a resume that gets results tell your tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring go to imagemakersinc.com That's Image Makers Inc with a K

2:36:32 and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. And then I want to continue with the anonymous... She's winning resumes! What did I say? You just actually phoned it in I probably did put it in. You should have read it! Jobs, karma worried about AI? For a resume that gets results tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring go to imagemakersinc.com That's Image Makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Liu Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for Jobs!

2:37:10 So you so will you do this that's just so damn good Can you do the voiceovers for Mimi's ads as she runs her City Council in Port Angeles? I'd be delighted to I told her exactly that. She said, she...I said, I don't even have to ask him if you asked him? Have you asked him? No, I haven't asked him He'll just do it! He's an egomaniac he'd be glad to do it Oh what?! Hold on! Mimi, I'm sorry I was gonna do it until John called me an egomaniac I am no longer doing it Nope You can blame John Nope That's it I'm done Sorry It's all over So anonymous Twitter by someone And by the way

2:37:52 So apparently she and one of our producers did a meetup promo for the, for the MeetUp in Oakland? No. No that's it there no they're doing a meet up in Port Angeles. Oh Port Angeles but they're doing a meet-up so they send me a meet-up promo with Mimi but they send me an Audacity file I'm like, I can't open this. Oh they didn't send an audacity file? Yes they did! That's embarrassing. The Audacity project file... So she says to me... Here we go here we go Yeah we decided uh forget the guy's name Now does your wife talk like that

2:38:37 I agreed to make her voice talking like this, which is hard for me to do so i don't do it. But she said that they've got the device you have, the Rodecaster And they recorded it and they said, how do we get it off of here? And they couldn't figure out how to get us. So let's just take the memory out. We finally worked it out. Send me the memory card! They didn't do their memory. The easiest thing is just take them every car sticking a computer boom you're done but so they took it and I guess if they put in Audacity and then they sent you the audacity they went to say with audacity If you go to save project

2:39:22 It saves it as this crazy format that is not audio, it's just their format. Instead of exporting it they didn't know to export it Yes Is this the podcast studio they're running up there? Yeah Well they'll get it down And well and to be honest I got it and I have Audacity but then it opened up and first of all Audacity which is now a commercial company gives you all kinds of great offers and then it says Yeah, this is no longer compatible with this version of Audacity. It was close to showtime like okay I'm sorry you got to send me an mp3 and so it's not gonna be when is that when is the meetup? Its next set is coming Saturday Oh crap So we can't even play their jingle there they're probably well today You know you have to go to its a source They screwed it up And I said export the file instead they sent you that and audacity being what it is because I've noticed this too

2:40:15 It's changed so much over the last couple of iterations. Well, it is because it became a commercial company all of a sudden from open source to someone buying it somehow Yeah yeah I know Why doesn't that happen to podcast index for a couple million? We can go from Orpins open-source to be bought we got no problem You could be bought and I know your style Okay they're having their meeting coincident with the Oakland meetup which I'll be at And, but it'll be listed in the Port Angeles is having a meet up on Saturday and there is going to end at jail. Be up there. Oh nice. That's cool. Brennan so they'll have been up there. They would normally get the Oakland. Brennan the deadbeat with no job that guy?

2:41:01 He still gets checks. So he'll be there with Jay and they'll have, I don't know where they're doing it but it was listed and I'll be at the Oakland which is going to be at a pizza place in Oakland again, Violetas. So the producers are saying post the file to the chat and we'll take care of it for you And I'm like, yeah but it's...I think it is like raw audio. Like 15 gigs or something for these things? You know what I mean that sends something weird sends something weird out could be wrong. Let me see if you can post it anyway last donation is from anonymous I wanted to mention this came in as a check $200 the person was adamant about not mentioning who it is but did say that she

2:41:54 Now just discovered, you can send in a check and couldn't do anything. You didn't want to do anything else and realized that this is great I can send in money now because I didn't realize how easy it was to send in the check. Oh! It's so easy. To Box 339 El Cerrito California 94530. It's just beyond me while everybody doesn't send in the cheque. It costs 15 cents to process Yeah, I can't post it to the chat because it's 31 megs. I can only upload 15 megs. I'm sorry people... Sorry. Alright. Wow! Yeah here we go okay

2:42:39 Was that it? Was that the last thing you wanted to say? That was it. We're done! Alright, thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1798 Two more to go until the big 1800 Will They Survive 18 Years The Best Podcast in the Universe That's up to you if you want us to continue with this open source, open funding completely transparent system we have put up where we thank everybody who supports us $50 and above. And of course these executive and associate executive producers they receive these credits which are official show business credits and they received them because they came in with $200 or $300. But any amount matters to us, anything that you want to send back as value is value for value for us. And we'll be thanking 50 dollars and above in our second segment thanks again! Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

2:43:38 I just had an idea here. Let me see, I can probably post this... Yeah, I got an idea here. I think I can get this on a server and get them to it Oh yeah! I got everything baby! let me see if this works You're gonna post it somewhere and have them pick it up? Yep yep here It is. It's an AUP3 file AUP3, because I don't even know what that is. All the files I have are backed up like that are AUPs Well this says AUP 3 So they exported it as something special Good luck boys! Yeah well the chat has it so the trolls will go to work It really just...I ran out of time First thing everyone always assumes Don't you have a Google account connected to AdamMcCurry.com? Like no

CHAPTER 32 / 37 Discussion

Peter Mandelson Sacking and Epstein Files

Peter Mandelson has been asked to withdraw as an ambassador following the release of emails and photos linking him to Jeffrey Epstein. The hosts examine a "birthday book" for Epstein that allegedly contains messages and drawings from Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. Senator John Fetterman dismisses the story as a distraction, while the hosts compare the situation to the Jimmy Savile scandal at the BBC.

peter mandelson· jeffrey epstein· donald trump· bill clinton· john fetterman· jimmy savile· bbc

2:44:35 No, I have a Google account which is not adamantcurry.com and so i always have to request access Which usually, you know an hour later people go like oh okay here we go. Here's your Axos. Oh sorry I got the Axos and then they send it back in there was like okay anyway the trolls are going to take care of it. We might get it done when do we need to get it done which is later in this show? The trolls are gonna do it! They're gonna do it. Well see but they're a lot of trolls today that their bored. We have great trolls now Speaking of one of the best trolls in the universe, wow this came in this morning on The Transom. Bye bye Mandelson! Breaking news at this hour let's go live to Westminster our political correspondent Serena Barker-Singer. Serena we're hearing in the last few moments that Peter Mandelson has been asked to withdraw as ambassador by the Prime Minister? Yes exactly withdraw from being the ambassador or essentially he's been sacked

2:45:34 by the Prime Minister and you heard from the Foreign Minister there, Stephen Doughty who was drawn out by The Conservatives urgent questions today to make that announcement. It's not a surprise we were talking this morning about how long could Peter Mandelson sustain this drip feed of information these very embarrassing photos that one in him in a bathrobe at one of Jeffrey Epstein's residencies. But it seems to be these emails that are the most damning and the Foreign Office has said these are the new information that emerged, this sacking has gone down whether he was told personally whether he was summoned in but it was clearly becoming untenable that Peter Mandelson could sustain his position and remember the government has a commitment

2:46:27 So these emails, as I was reading through them it's like haven't we seen these? It has been around for a long time. This whole thing is blowed up again And they had the latest Trump no to his birthday party or something. Oh, yes Which I thought was actually pretty funny well the thing that is poorly reported on is it looks like a script A script with a voiceover and it literally looks like aside from a script and no one ever comments on that I'm not sure

2:47:21 What script was it from? Was it from a TV show, a reality show. Was it from a movie? Why is the script at the top that has voice over? if you really look at it, it's very confusing. And of course we know... It's a Democrat hoax everybody! This is the birthday message allegedly crafted by Donald Trump for Jeffrey Epstein in 2003 We have certain things in common, it says inside a drawing of a naked female form May every day be another wonderful secret, it adds above what appears to be Trump's signature You know actually that drawing looks like remember as kids we would draw

2:48:01 That and then we'd cover up a part of it and people like oh man I can't believe you drew that you take your hands off, and it was actually a horse's head remember that joke No, but that was the joke that I've never heard looks a bit like that signature I'm not a drawing person. I don't do drawings of women That I can tell you. Despite White House denials, the signature appears to match Trump's on other letters sent during the same time period. The president did not write this letter he did not sign this letter. The drawing was contained in a birthday book prepared for Epstein's 50th birthday before he was convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor

2:48:45 The book also included a message, allegedly from former US President Bill Clinton and this photo that appears to be a joke about Epstein selling a woman to Trump for $22,000. This is a Democrat hoax that never ends. The material was obtained by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee along with other records from Epstein's estate Part of a broader push for the release of the full Epstein files after the Trump administration backtracked on a promise to make them public. If Republicans don't want engage in a cover-up of pedophilia and this pedophilia ring, they should go sign this discharge petition. Trump and his allies keep trying to change the channel

2:49:26 At one point, even claiming Trump was secretly working against his longtime friend. It was an FBI informant that tried to take this stuff down I can affirm that is not true The shifting explanations and increasingly damning evidence have done little to quell the questions about Trump's involvement with the notorious sex offender a story that seems unlikely to go away anytime soon Well so that's the rundown you have the latest The check is pretty funny Somehow I think I'd seen that book. Am i just imagining that we've seen all these things before? Well, you haven't seen the Clinton cartoon! Oh no, that's new yeah well... Uh and I don't remember this drawing being that but maybe there are a couple of them No, I remember the picture with the check somehow

2:50:19 Anyway, I don't remember that an unlikely response from an unlikely quote-unquote ally Senator John Fetterman was asked about this senator on the findings from the House Oversight Committee on this alleged Birthday book. This note that the president allegedly wrote to Jeffrey Epstein for his birthday Do you have any comment on that and the drawing that goes with that? Again, I don't think the epstein thing is the big I don't know, release it. But it's strange, the Democrats we've had that for four years and we didn't release them? I don't know why we didn't do that so far without releasing but I don't think that's gonna, It's this idea that suddenly that's going to be one thing that is gonna take out Trump. No, I don't believe what that is he'll still be here. I don't think it's just a distraction honestly but go ahead and release whatever that is. That it's not important

2:51:12 Fetterman, he's all in with the president on this. It's just a distraction. It's quite the distraction Yeah I don't know why... well again if i go back to my own thesis It's meant to be a distraction. It's meant to be, well they forced me to do it and here is the...here is it and then some people get burned and Trump can again so far blameless I said not to do that! I'm sorry boys that this happened to you but this is nothing like any control over blame. This is Democrats' them Well so Mandelson got burned and this is just what? A week before President Trump goes to the UK for state visit That's rather embarrassing

2:51:53 Yeah, I'd say. But Mandelson... Do you see the pictures? He's in his bathrobe and he's like, hey my best friend! My goodness Men are so disgusting. It's notorious for getting burned like this There is always a sex scandal there What was that dude's name? No, I don't know. I can almost come up with it. Come on. I know who would know. It's amazing how you forget this guy The Necrophiliac Remember that guy? Something he Jim Jim Jim will fix it. I don't remember that yeah, no of course you do Ask your Irvine there what? Let's ask Irvine hey Irvine who was the the famous British Pedophile that got arrested never got arrested but then eventually died Jim will fix it dude

2:52:51 That'd be Jimmy Savile. Ah, Jimmy Savile. Oh yeah, Jimmy Saville sure. Jimmy Saville there you go. Duh! What a creep that guy was all happened during the course of this show I might add and boy they did they covered that up didn't they? Whoa! Yeah the entire BBC it was the BBC Didn't they kill the journalist over that woman who got killed outside her house I don't know, ask the robot. No! I'm not gonna ask the robot everything. I'm not gonna do that. Not gonna do that. Adam and The Robot... There's your title, Adam and The Robot. Hey stick with me baby, Adam And The Robot it's a possible exit strategy think of it I can have twice the money

CHAPTER 33 / 37 Discussion

Voice of America Firings and White House Access

The Trump administration has reportedly issued termination notices to over 500 journalists at Voice of America. The hosts discuss the changing landscape of the White House press corps, which now includes more "influencers" and podcasters. They reminisce about past political predictions involving Marco Rubio and Bernie Sanders, and the lack of an invitation to the 2016 inauguration.

voice of america· press freedom· white house· joe rogan· marco rubio· bernie sanders· inauguration

2:53:37 Adam and the robot for 20 bucks a month. You didn't have to money because you only have, the robot won't complain enough though the row I'll teach the robot to complain it will cost me $20 a month Adam and the robot everybody it's Adam in the robot hey robot how are you doing robots say hello Adam on the robot everybody whoo-hoo in the morning yep yeah that's gonna happen I'm talking about whining. I had to get this clip out of the way, this is a BBC clip about the Voice of America complaining. Okay... I'm sorry, yeah. I got it The Trump administration is moving to fire most remaining journalists at the federally funded broadcaster Voice of America The move is likely to be challenged in the courts More than 500 termination notices have been sent out including one to Patsy Wikus-Wara who until now was the Voice of America White House Bureau Chief

2:54:29 I think it's quite clear that press freedom in the United States is under attack, not just what's happening with us with Voice of America but also our colleagues. Public broadcasters such as public radio and PR and then PBS as well as private stations there are also under attack from the White House. And if you look at any White House briefing, you see a lot of very right wing influencers. Oh yeah BBC News Of course. Oh, there's right wingers there. It's all right wingers on those podcasters. Podcasters in the White House? What are we going to do? This is no good! Can't have the podcast... We never get invited to something cool. Invite us to The White House

2:55:13 No one's gonna invite us to anything. When you didn't get invited, because we're I still think we're a fairly neutral show about politics but when you but you did come out for Trump in 2015-2016 well you came out for Trump you said i want trump that's not what you made a big fight no you lie now let me finish You thought Trump would be the... you were backing Trump, you predicted he was going to win. I said this guy can go all the way and you said no man it's Marco Rubio that's how that went down! You made a point of endorsing Trump and you never got invited to the inauguration? That's the way i see it remember? I endorsed him okay alright And you never got invited

2:56:03 No, I because I never endorsed him if I'd said yeah go man. Go go People somebody go dig this up Do some research? Yeah, please do send it to me. Oh, I'll gladly play I find it very annoying that you didn't get invited to the inauguration Yeah, I'm not surprised Joe Rogan went he would he represented all All my god. He wanted he did to go to the inauguration 2016 no that's right You went to this bill of the second one you're right He hated, well not hated but he was not a Trump fan. Yeah he was a Bernie fan! He was a Bernie Sanders fan Right he was a Bernie boy You and Rogan? Bernie and Marco? Uh-huh Sure Way to go Well Marco's got a better chance of still making it Way to go 8 Ball Okay Magic 8 Ball Here here's a funny I have a wow clip one of these clips that is just not getting much coverage

CHAPTER 34 / 37 Discussion

South Africa Human Trafficking and EBT Complaints

Seven Chinese nationals were sentenced to 20 years in prison in South Africa for trafficking 91 individuals from Malawi to work in a textile factory. In a separate item, a viral TikTok video features a woman complaining that she had to cancel a family vacation because her EBT (food stamp) benefits were restricted. The hosts cite this as a symptom of modern American entitlement.

south africa· human trafficking· malawi· slavery· ebt· food stamps· tiktok

2:56:58 This is just too funny. A South Africa court has sentenced seven Chinese nationals to prison They were convicted of trafficking dozens of Africans and forcing them to work in a factory NTT's David Lam reports the courts in Johannesburg, South Africa has sentenced seven Chinese nationals to 20 years in prison They were convicted of trafficking 91 individuals from Malawi and forcing them to work at a cotton fabric factory in South Africa. The group was convicted in February for crimes committed from 2017 to 2019. Police raided the factory and arrested the defendants in November 2019. Authorities said they found the Malawian victims confined in inhumane conditions with armed guards controlling their movements. The factory had a high wall and razor fence

2:57:53 But I want to say to our people as well, they must know that we are taking these issues very serious. Government is working every day towards rooting out all these issues." Prosecutors said the victims were forced to work 11-hour shifts seven days a week without safety equipment The South African Department of Labour expressed support for the sentence and urged greater collaboration among government agencies to help end human trafficking Slavery. Yeah, yeah in Africa no gambling Of course well I thought that was a foot interest. Yes, no one's gonna you know by the way we have rapid developments Rapid oh you're looking at the quad box the quad and the quad screen says rapid developments It looks like this the guy who they have been posting the picture all morning Like he was one of those

2:58:50 One of those people that Charlie, what's the term you used with a P? Prolemesis. He polemicized that guy because he always made people look foolish Yeah well he looks like one of those guys Could be yeah I mean You know I could imagine somebody getting irked and being made a fool of But I always thought it was they were The people that were... some of the dumb stuff people came up with him is just ridiculous. He was easy to pickens Well, what do you mean? So you think they caught the guy I don't think so Soon new Trump comments on Charlie Kirk I dunno That's nothing But by the way it's the same people that you love bringing on TikTok to the show It's the same people

2:59:48 No, different people. Okay same category same level same caliber Well I don't have anybody on the show i don't have one tiktok clip on this show well you have an EBT complainer woman oh wait a second here we go Oh good lord! Good Lord okay well play that I had to cancel my vacation with my family because where were gonna go and vacation at They have already stopped certain things being able to be purchased with EBT. Well, because of this that would mean I would have to buy the majority of my family's food out-of-pocket and that would dig into my money I had for fun things so I had no other choice but to cancel the trip My family is so sad about this and so am i

3:00:46 I don't understand why people want to control what other people buy with their EBT. Like, how is it your business what I buy with my EBT? And there it is! There's the problem in America in a nutshell right there right there I can't use my EBT on vacation for whatever I want to buy Isn't that emergency benefits? Isn't that what that is, emergency... It's the food stamps program. Yes for people who are in dire straits and- Who need to eat food! Who need food yes but there it is enough said. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah they'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA

CHAPTER 35 / 37 Discussion

Final Donor Credits and Secretary Generalships

The show concludes with a comprehensive list of donors contributing $50 and above. New Secretary Generalships are awarded to Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch, Sir Scovey, and Sir Your Honest Mechanic. The hosts perform the official knighting ceremony for Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plain and Sir ElevenOfNine, welcoming them to the No Agenda Roundtable.

sparks nevada· sparks· boob donation· secretary general· knighthood· value for value· roundtable

3:01:33 Now, the people who support The NO Agenda Show of course they're very very different. They understand how we all have to work together and we would like to thank the people who've supported us with their value for value $50 and above John has a list I do have the list it starts with our regular Dame Rita who came in with 109 11 she's in Sparks Nevada she's probably a Viscountess we believe Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina 105.35 Kate in Boise $100 and she says I love you guys! I love you too Thank You Kate Scott Van Gelder in Barnstable Massachusetts nuts 100 Love every episode Kevin McLaughlin comes here with 8008 he's the Archduke of Luna lover of America lover of melons

3:02:28 And that's the boob donation along with anonymous in Mount Airy, Maryland. He came in with a 8008 sir Doherty and Stephen City Virginia 6868 and as a happy birthday call out to Sir Nick Somebody Josh Buford in mid Lothian of Virginia 6430 George Sousa interlock California 61 Michael Natrin in Newark Delaware 61. Well, these 61s are your birthday cards! These are the last three birthday callouts! Yes I know it's beautiful thank you all so much! And there is Troy Sprague who comes in from Lapeer Michigan with a 61-yellow happy birthday which was...

3:03:16 which was sent to Jay and I put happy birthday. What are you laughing about? Well it's happy birthday to you but because, because i guess looking back on it I think she thought it was him wishing himself happy birthday so he is probably on the birthday list. He's gonna be congratulated regardless That's pretty funny Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado. 606 small boobs and along with Les Tarkowsky in Kingman Arizona Sam Williams he's 6006 also Sam Williams in Davenport Iowa 55 He's sending me and you a Chavette

3:04:01 With some real cool shaving, shaving soup. Oh! That's cool Women tell me it smells great Huh. Okay, Chivette. I don't know what a chivette is even look it up okay Kevin Ritchie 5370 this is a knighting that's coming up yes I will read you might as well read in the morning John and Adam with this $53 77 cent donation celebrating both my birthday on September 11th show day and the completion of by knighthood please dub me sir eleven of nine at the roundtable where all just need a coke slurpee

3:04:42 For the longest time, I thought I was the only one noticing the bias around us every day until 2016 when I found you two. Thank you for keeping me sane and entertained! Keep up the good work and please remember everyone's got an agenda." Kevin Ritchie how right you are brother Angela Kettle Hut in Rock Hill South Carolina 5377 there is a birthday to Brian coming up beyond the list Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado. $52.72. These are actually $52 donors that jacked it up a little bit.

3:05:27 What? Bente Helft Edlich. Bente Helft Edlich in... And he's in Switzerland. She, she, she, she, she. She, Bente. Oh, she is a she yeah. This is a please break for Dame Dane my mother has cancer growth on her liver and would very much like to survive the operation and have full recovery. She needs an F-cancer we're gonna give her that 250 272 donation for the Swiss this our second Swiss person today. The Swiss are in demand! Let me do that F-cancer for her right now. 5272, Sean Veneman, Veneman I think in Genoa Illinois which they probably pronounce it Genoa. I'm guessing 5272 but they do Steven Trockets or Trockles in Sust Deutschland ah 5112 my family freaked out over drones entering Poland sister taking fast flight out huh

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3:10:55 And a Coke Slurpee! Doesn't get any easier than that. Along with that, we've got Gases and Sake, Vodka's and Manila, Bong Hits and Bourbon Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Gin, Jail and Gerbils We got Breast Milk and Pabellum, and of course we have the Mutton & The Mead Welcome to the Roundtable You also should go to noagenda rings dot com Take a look at those fine night and dame rings We'll send you out one that fits your size. There is a handy ring sizing guide right there on the website and let us know we can send it to you, and thank you for supporting the show! And welcome to The Roundtable No Agenda Nights & Ames!

CHAPTER 36 / 37 Discussion

Port Angeles Meetup Promo and Host Banter

The hosts play the corrected promo for the Port Angeles meetup at Bar Hop Brewing, featuring Mimi Smith Dvorak and Sir Tim from Squim. The promo includes a "punked" ending from the No Agenda Millennial podcast. The hosts engage in lighthearted ribbing of the producers' technical skills and the quality of the promotional material.

port angeles· mimi smith dvorak· tim from squim· bar hop brewing· meetup· millennial media offensive· audacity

3:11:35 Well, we do have the big meetup coming up on Saturday. The North Olympic Peninsula last minute meetup. It's a last-minute meetup! Why is it a last minute meetup? Why?! Why is it a last minute? Did they just decide that they're gonna do something? Exactly. It'll be at 333 p.m., at Bar Hop Brewing in Port Angeles, Washington attending Mimi J and Brennan Sir Tim from the Squim will be organizing this and thanks to the outstanding work of the producers on The No Agenda Show I have a copy balance no less of their promo

3:12:15 In the morning, this is T. Ryan Everett Oh wow what a lead-in for this oh my goodness Wow! Wow all right Sir Tim from Squim Commodore of the Port of Angels And...this is Mimi Smith Dvorak That's fake news No that's fake news she doesn't sound like that It should be... She does it and works the mic And this is Mimi Smith Dvorak in fact notice the Smith Dvorak What is that a little like well? You know at any minute you go back to just Mimi Smith if you put on play cards right for office with Smith's better name Okay, and this is Mimi Smith Dvorak inviting you to the first in a long long time North Olympic no agenda meetup

3:13:01 on Saturday, September 13th which is just a couple of days away. So set your sat nav or Google it I guess for you boomers you can use your phone book and join us at Bar Hop in Port Angeles not the one in swim but the one in Port Angeles this Saturday at 333 p.m That's Saturday the 13th at 333 p.m. at Bar Hop in Port Angeles where protection is connection or connection is protection, one of the two. I don't know just don't get it on me okay Hi! I'm Adam Curry and I love listening to Millennial Media Offensive I got punked

3:13:56 So Eric PP now we talked about this audacity file so I posted in the chat Eric PP gets back to me. I save it, I don't listen to it obviously otherwise you have time I would have banned it outright that was probably the worst promo I've ever heard and then no agenda millennial Post me a copy and said oh I balanced it for you. And so in and I know Eric PP very well All right Oh, well Maybe Eric PP didn't have time So that's very kind of you know agenda millennial and punked me with a little no agenda millennial promo Right at the end of that yeah pretty good outstanding work outstanding That actually made that whole minute bearable

3:14:45 Also on Saturday, the New Jersey Central Meetup We Drink and We Know Things Spooky Season Edition 2 o'clock at 3BR Distillery in Keyport, NJ. And the Northern Silicon Valley Get John Out of The House meet up on the 13th which will be without Jay, Mimi or Brennan because they're all doing a competing meet-up that'll be meet-up number 8333 P.M Pacific same time at Pizzeria Violetta In Oakland, California. Go say hi to John everybody! And on Thursday our next show day Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday monthly this is I don't know how many they've done they've been doing this forever 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina thank you all very much for your meetup courage

3:15:30 And you can always go to noagendameetups.com to find out where all of them are taking place Connection is protection, yes You can get some on your Mimi don't worry about it These are the people who will be your first responders in an emergency If you can't find one near you Go to noagendameetups.com and start one yourself It's easy and always a party! Sometimes you wanna go home Hang out with all the knights and dames You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a bomb... Man, you're gonna have to have a phone call after the show with Mimi about that promo

3:16:16 Well, you know they don't listen to enough promos. Do they listen to the show at all? Well she does but I don't know if she pays... It was Tim that decided to do the promo so she just couldn't... Oh wait a minute! You mean Tim who's got his head on my back and says it's very good? Yeah okay. Man Oh, that's great. All right. They'll love you for that. Oh yeah. Just ragging on these poor people. Hey! That's what we do to ISO she is my first I don't know what else to tell ya and i have this one I mean this is this is balderdash Balderdash? Brother... You got a better one

CHAPTER 37 / 37 Discussion

Sake Buying Guide and Final Sign-off

John Dvorak provides a "tip of the day" on purchasing high-quality Sake, recommending "Ginjo" grade for 100% rice content. He shares a personal observation that Sake sold in blue bottles is consistently superior, despite the fragility of blue glass. The hosts sign off by encouraging listeners to support the "Value for Value" model as they approach their 1800th episode.

sake· ginjo· blue bottle· costco· pittsburgh plate glass· boron· value for value

3:17:00 I think so. Yup, that podcast was a humdinger! Well how can i compete with AI? I'm all in now it's 40 billion dollars worth of AI! All right, I'm gonna do something that's a little food and wine related. We always love the fine and wood... Wooden fine! The what? The wooden fine tips of the day. Wooden fine yes, I gotta write that one down. Wooden fine. Sake. Oh oh Most people don't know how to buy sake In fact ummm....I'm very happy you're doing this because when we went out in Austin with the uhmmm.....uhhhh

3:17:48 former Hollywood executive, we went to a very upscale sushi restaurant. I think it's neighborhood sushi restaurants was called and I ordered sake and there was the list that was so long unlike just give me the winter warrior! I had no idea what i was doing yeah that would be normal not for you for everybody yes Okay, so what you're looking for when you buy a Saki. There's a couple things that I didn't have an obscure... The tip is actually the obscure ending to this little lecture You want to always get a ginjo, a Ginjo Saki. A Ginjo? Is that G-I-N-J-O? GINGO? A J-O. You got it right the first time. Okay yeah and if there's variations like Dai Jin...Ginjo or this other Ginjos it has to be any of those variations are fine they get better

3:18:41 There's some better ginjos that are really elaborate, but they're incredibly expensive. But ginjo is your baseline you want to get a ginjo that means That's a sake that ensures it's 100% rice. They don't put neutral spirits in like they do the cheaper grades of sake, and lot of them have that in there. If doesn't say Ginjo you're gonna get neutral spirits watering it down. Just crap okay? You want ginjo Now the funny thing is and I've only noticed this over the years This is observation that does not been documented But it's an observation I made and I made it initially about 30 years ago when I was at some event, and a Japanese guy was there. And he gifted me a bottle of sake.

3:19:25 And it was terrific, one of the best bottles I've ever had. I don't remember exactly what it was but I do remember one characteristic and I've noticed this over and over and over again when I buy sake from Costco or as long as it's Ginjo, a sake from Costco and I buy sake from our local Tokyo fish market if it's in a blue bottle It's always good. I know this has not been documented by anybody, but I have observed this over and over and over again over the years, and you'll see there's a whole bunch of sakis up on the wall, and one of them is in a blue bottle! And that's the one? Just buy that and see what happens it's gonna be good! I have no idea if a Japanese sake expert can come back me up on this

3:20:17 But I've always noticed that it's all the blue bottle, sock bottles. Sockies are always the best. I don't know well and I would love for Sir Mark and Dame Astrid to chime in on this but I do not doubt you and i'm always going to say excuse me can I see the bottle for this? Can I see all the bottles? Well now when you're at a restaurant they usually... okay when you're out of restaurant the sock is generally in the big giant bottles And the big giant bottles which are, I don't know a liter and half or no they're like two liters are huge. And that's where they usually most of the sake you get lot of sake in these big huge bottles. Blue bottles are delicate.

3:20:59 So you won't find a big giant blue bottle because the nature of it, I think it's boron maybe. Oh another tip! Blue bottles are delicate this is another tip of the day. Blue bottles are delicate and that's why you don't see too many blue bottles because they're hard to make when I was inspecting The Glass Factory at Pittsburgh Plate Glass used to be in Oakland I got this lecture about oh we can't do blue oh it's a pain in the ass or they're brittle crappy, you know we don't like making blue because it's a boron or something that goes in there and makes them brittle. And so I've never seen a giant bottle of even the same brand of sake in a blue bottle they're always the brown bottle So as so you can't necessarily look at the bottle in a restaurant because they were always going to be these giant bottles that they use typically

3:21:52 So you're gonna have to go just go with Ginjo. Ginjo it is, there it is his tip of the day a very handy one look out for the blue bottle everybody! Created by... Well there ya' go we conclude our broadcast day as we put this genie back in the blue bottle until Sunday when we return I'm sure there'll be something else to look forward to or not. Something will happen, we'll know something. Something always happens! Something always happens... usually on a show day but sometimes not on the show day Be kind to each other and stay tuned for the No Agenda stream We have- oh this is a good one Who are these broadcasters? It's episode 110 Howard Stern speaks but who is listening Well that's a good question

3:22:48 That'll be next on the stream or in your modern podcast app. We will be igniting the bat signal again on Sunday end of show mixes from Kevin drink our and Jeffrey Crocker who makes excellent use of that 60 billion dollar investment in AI with his own lyrics And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. Please remember us at noagendadonations.com Keep The Value For Value going 1800 episodes coming up and 18 years in the can! Until Sunday, remember us at noagendadonations.com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such!

3:23:48 It feels like right now it is a chaotic situation. Like we are on board, there is no captain steering the ship and I know there's a lot of misinformation and mistrust but one thing that should not be under fire is vaccination and the public health story success that vaccination has been in this country We know they have saved millions of lives We know that it prevents disability from diseases. So we forget, but polio can cause paralysis. Weasels can lead to brain inflammation so if you get sick it can end up resulting in complications. We have vaccines for cancer, HIV and hepatitis. Big Pharma's advertising a broadcast on the campaign. situation. I remember the freezer trucks, there is no captain steering the ship. He has got to pull the plug on TV advertising immediately! I remember the freezer trucks behind Lennoxville Hospital where i worked. Mom darling, oh cantare, cantare, woah