Meloni in the Middle

00:00 I don't need the aggravation of ear mold. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday August 21st 2025 this is your award winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1792 This is no agenda We have a tri-lot! And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we applaud President Trump going on patrol. Right? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill...in the morning! What did i miss he went on patrol? No he is going on patrol tonight Oh is he doing a ride along

00:44 Yeah, in DC. That's great! It just came out this morning What is great is that people in other cities are going hey hey President Trump come do that in our city It's gonna catch on, you watch it. It's gonna catch on. They love it! Well they only catch on so far because he actually has the authority to do it in DC He doesn't have the authority To do it as San Francisco to this extreme No but he has... This is about the crime bill. It's going to be The Trump... Hold on a second THE TRUMP CRIME BILL BATMAN That's what its gonna be And you only got to hope that it turns out right because other crime bills in the past like that of 1992, is not such a good deal.

01:28 Although now they're kind of the Democrats are kind of bragging about those old crime bills by Clinton and Biden Yeah, well you just trips not doing anything new Crime was really reduced because a Clinton What the 92 the 92 crime bill in course incarcerated over a million black men for smoking weed? Weed so the minute you see a kid on the front of Time magazine or or or Time website, where you're holding an Uzi smoking a spliff. Then you know that... then you know they're serious about the crime bill because that what it was Lil- What was the kid's name from the 90? Oh man Moe, Moe, Moe Where are you when I need ya? Lil, Lil

02:19 Was it a little Abby? No, no. It was not Little Abner. Lil' Billy. No... Lil Duncan. Someone in the troll room should know by now! I don't even know Yeah it was the Lil Yummy Thank you. Lil Yummy. It was like a 13 year old 9-year old gang member Lil Yankee Lil Yummy was on the cover of Time Magazine and that was the whole impetus Yeah, that was when Hillary Clinton was out there saying these...did she say degenerates? No it was something like that. Hey how good are we! Two forgetful boomers So that was the Biden crime bill

03:05 I'm sorry, 1994. 94 Biden crime bill. What was Clinton's phrase? She used it as an exploitative term. It was Clinton... Well there is only one way to go. You got your buddy there why don't you ask her! The 1994 Biden crime bill what did Hillary Clinton call the perpetrators like Lil' Yummy Oh, she called them super predators in the 1990s. Super Predators! Thank you We don't need to remember anything We've got error we've got error here Super Predator's Error? Her name is Error That's her name now, Error Does she make mistakes? Uh... ya think? Error Error, error Yeah Everyone's publishing articles now it seems to be the new thing To publish articles about AI hype being over

04:06 Yeah. Oh, that means it's not over I'm in agreement with you when they say it's because you know It's Altman Altman is coming out and he's saying oh, yeah the LA Times Headline say farewell to the AI bubble get ready for the crash Well, he never said save farewell to the bubble He just said there is a bubble. Well, no this is the headline from The Los Angeles Times That isn't that's not cool. They're making it up. It's not in quotation marks He's just saying it. He's just saying now he's not saying that he's saying it's a bubble He's not saying the bubbles over the birds correct correct there are the ones saying that the thing though And if I was in newspaper, I'd say stuff like that too and I'm a little conflicted because I got a report from CBS about

04:55 Which plays right into, I would hope the Gen Z's that you and I have raised in these past 18 years. Because we have raised a nation John! We have raised the generation of smart thinking kids This is where you say yes indeed Adam They're fabulous. And I hope that they have heeded our advice throughout the years through our complaints about lack of shop and home ec in other trades and apprenticeships, and maybe a few have thought about it because those who have listened to The Boomer Show

05:34 are about to get rich. Brandon Fry feels squeezed by two businesses trending in opposite directions data centers such as this one he manages outside Chicago hum along with soaring demand everything in here needs servicing, everything in here needs service tech support, tech support HVAC support electricians but the supply of technical support he needs available 24-7 keeps shrinking What your customers don't want to hear is we can't find somebody for them. That's the last thing they want to hear and that will be the last conversation we likely have with them as a customer. Data centers now compete with factories and manufacturing plants for electricians and plumbers As older blue-collar workers retire, younger people look at college and white collar jobs

06:24 It's a growing labor crisis. Roughly 400,000 skilled trade jobs are unfilled in America by 2033 it is estimated that number could hit close to 2 million Now listen to the numbers what kind of money you can make as a plumber with your butt crack. It's awesome You got to be able to do more with less Matt Roseland an executive for a software company called IFS I'm sorry first we gotta get some tech guy and shove it in here for no reason in the story says new technology is one solution And you can see this is changing dynamically his company sells this program that helps companies route and reroute their fleet of technicians

07:04 You can take things like weather, traffic, different priorities and add that on top. When you think about the labor shortages that are out there and you want to create more efficiencies and do more with less this is how that's going to happen Back at the data center, Dan Brown knows there's a labor crisis. We're always looking for good people to hire but doesn't understand it he told us in Chicago experienced HVAC technicians make more than $150,000 without student debt The trades kind of got neglected, so now there's a void that needs to be filled. And you're busier than ever? Oh absolutely! Across the floor electrician Kevin Fishback sees hope his local unions aggressively recruiting young workers for its apprenticeship program They come into trades and they got insurance they got health care they've got a pension

07:58 That's an update with power for Brandon Frye. ...that this career path is out there and it is a valuable career path to take... But for now, the date is in and its unmistakable help wanted For I Am America, I'm Mark Strassman In Chicago And of course we want to thank President Obama for telling everybody how to learn code Good job! Which was the worst advice ever it looks like Good job President Obama No, and I think you can still just jump in on an apprenticeship. I'm sure that there's plumbers and HVAC companies out there that would love to have you. There are probably a few. There are not as many as there should be. That is the real problem. The idea of apprenticeships has gone out of favor. The apprenticeship has sailed? No it has gone out of favor.

08:50 Well, you know when they see the demand for people I'm pretty sure that they're gonna... Oh no it has to come back. It's always been there it's how it works yeah you really can't graduate from high school as a plumber You can't graduate from college as a plumber No! You have to be shown how to be one by someone who knows how to do it right and professionally I'll tell ya if this gig comes to an end I'm going into plumbing Good to go, good to go. Plumbing 2.0. Well yes meanwhile we know that the bubble has to be kept afloat and inflating at all costs

09:37 The bubble's going to get bigger than a lot of people like to imagine. Well, it has to because according to Bloomberg surveillance we need it! How do you think about GDP? Well everybody is redefined what reasonable or what Jay Powell describes as solid when we're barely running the economy so far this year at barely over 1% annual rate I mean when I started in the business in the mid 80s you got down to a one handle on real GDP growth and people were talking about reasonable, people were talking about stall speed and then asking when is the recession going to start. The economy I think is sputtering it's uneven without the proliferation of AI data centers and all that technology spending related to generative AI the economy would actually be in recession right now

10:25 Yeah, I believe it. We need all these data centers and everything of course It's unfortunate that people are paying for it and paying for your stupid chat GPT by your electric bill And utilities doubling. I wonder when that riot is gonna start? It has to yeah, it has two people aren't gonna take it anymore. Yeah was easy for you to say Yeah, it's easy for me to say because it's true When people, when they're like... I think it was like in Indiana alone 80 thousand people got switched off because they couldn't pay their bill which had doubled. At a certain point people get pretty antsy about that stuff Yeah but who are they gonna take it out on?

11:14 Their city council, their mayor or their city manager. The mayor and city council don't determine... City manager? Except in some cities but generally speaking they don't determine the rates of PG&E for example in California which is who's the head of PG&E working with some woman. Yeah well hey Luigi! This is where we're at in our culture right now. No, they've suppressed that Wow you are just so positive about everything going great aren't you? I'm telling you these things that are harder to do than you think. Ah, California! Like what what do people do with their high gas and electric bills? They stop using their power

11:58 And then you just say, okay well let's freeze to death. Buy more sweaters! Alright, buy more sweaters... Put it in the Red Book! Riots coming! Riots coming I'm telling ya! It has to be that way. We're Americans, ultimately! And then what after the riots? What are they gonna do about it? PG&E can document that fact that because of their old power lines in the woods and the fact that they caught a bunch of places on fire burned numerous millions of acres to the ground and is it their fault that the lines spark because of a tree or is it the fault of the California people that don't do forest management anymore, they stopped doing it? Or is it the fault of people like Gavin Newsom who drain this

12:47 He didn't drain the swamp, he drained the reservoirs. He actually tore down two or three dams whose fault is that? Is that PG&E's fault? Is it the reason that the race have gone up? No! It's Gavin Newsom's fault and who's riding against him? The Democrats are supporting him Well you're talking about California the whole time. California is not America That's a whole different deal California...that's the problem. California IS America You know if California was Texas we'd be better off Although we're trying to be Texas. Yeah, oh let's do it whatever the Texas is doing Let so let's copy that Oh Texas is gonna is going to gerrymander like we always have done So let's do our gerrymandering worse Let's make us make us look like Massachusetts where we have no Republicans in any office whatsoever You know by cheating

13:38 And then pointing the finger at Texas. This is bullcrap! That's what I gotta say! Alright, well we'll get off the topic of California. Allow me to play a few clips here from what is happening in the United Kingdom which has not come to violence yet but it's brewing and I've been around long enough. I remember those thin British coming down from the north to London with their pitchforks and their torches, it was not a pretty sight... And it's beginning now with Operation Raise The Colors!

14:14 Have you heard of this? Okay, you got me on this one. Here we go This is Marshall... Winston Marshall He's a youtuber but he's a professional youtuber Over the weekend A quiet revolution swept Britain And if you only watch the mainstream media You might never have known It is the Raising The Colours movement. Up and down the country, flags are being hoisted and our streets are being adorned with the cross of St George, the Union flag even roundabouts are being painted. The good people of the United Kingdom in their calm collected way standing up And of course those at the establishment on the regressive left who were not completely ignoring this movement doing what they can to undermine it You get something called Operation Raise The Colours that sounds very

14:58 military it sounds very aggressive. People aren't putting up this flag to celebrate Britain, they're putting up this flag to remind us that Britain is white and we shouldn't be here." When the BBC reported on the roundabout they ran the headline Roundabouts vandalised to look like St George's flags contrast that with rainbow zebra crossings appear in resort This morning footage of Birmingham Council frantically trying to paint over the St. George's roundabout emerged at least two councils are working fast to take down the flags because they are deemed quote-unquote dangerous and be putting the lives of motorists and pedestrians at risk so that there is the government in the mainstream everyone trying to cover it up shh don't show those flags, take those flags down by the way you try that in America if the city started taking down American flags hmm

15:48 That would be... Yes, that wouldn't go over. So listen to where this is happening and of course how it started is kind of well known There's a lot more going on here than meets the eye The British are people with a tradition being subtle with their patriotism That seems to be changing for good reason, which I'll explain. But let's have a look at how this movement came about This does not come out of nowhere Through July and August anti-immigration protests have taken place outside of government funded migrant hotels up and down the nation London Warwickshire Solihull Autringham Bournemouth Aldershot Ashfield Southampton Portsmouth Manchester Leeds

16:24 Birmingham, Liverpool, Newcastle Norwich. Criminal incidents by those claiming asylum in local migrant hotels inspired the local communities to take the streets Perhaps most famous of all was at The Bell Hotel in Epping where protests were sparked by the arrest and charging of an asylum seeker Hadush Kibatu, a 41-year old from Ethiopia who was accused of sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl. The alleged incident occurred shortly after Kibatu arrived in the UK via a small boat and he was residing at the Bell Hotel in Epping Essex which was being used to house asylum seekers. The protests began following his court appearance in July this of course comes after years have pent up

17:03 anguish and frustration felt by British people because of sexual abuse by legal and illegal immigrants, asylum seekers and communities of immigrant heritage. Most notably, of course... The rape gang scandal. The 2023 nosy riots which began because the police failed to deal with advances on a local girl by man from a migrant hotel were a violent early example of such protests So this is just the UK starting this, you know, this is starting to bubble under in every single European Union member state and okay so that's just flags but When the grannies come out, this is when you got to be careful. The pink ladies are in effect." As with the grooming gang scandal it wasn't just the illegal behavior and sexual misconduct of the immigrants which inspired at the protests but also the authorities mishandling affairs now amongst all these latest protests were the pink ladies British moms uniting to defend their daughters and children And this really might be the turning point for Britain When the moms get involved

18:05 It's serious. One of the organisers, Lorraine Kavanagh explained... We are mothers, grandmothers, aunts, sisters who wanted to protect our family and we don't hate these men we don't hate these men at all what we hate is what the government has done you know? We witness pensioners going up to the local supermarket getting a basket and looking for the red stickers for reduced labels to get a bit of meat And then we witness these guys, 20s 30s getting three meals a day in an unlimited time four-star hotel in Egyptian sheets. You know mobile phones and now I'm understood they get 500 pound voucher to get clothing and it's unfair! That is why were standing up because its unfair not because of the men no doubt half them would go nowhere near our children

19:06 But not one of them women are going to play roulette with their child's life. You got to watch out when the British grannies come out! What are you gonna do? Are you gonna mow them down?! Yeah, I'm down shoot him. I spray with water always remains is that the similarity between besides even drag queen story hour which appears in the EU it appears in the great in Great Britain or The fact that you have immigrants that are given cell phones and cash vouchers Or credit cards into EU in Great Britain and here

19:42 What is the connection? There has to be some sort of international connection because you don't have these phenomenon in these discrepant areas, specifically in Western areas. The United States, the UK and EU, the exact same phenomenon where migrants are invited one way or another given free cash, given free cell phones, given free accommodations here and there and everywhere. Who's coordinating this? This is coordinated by the globalists, but who specifically? This is ridiculous that nobody... I'm surprised people have put up with this for as long as they have

20:26 Well, it started a long time ago with political correctness where people were told to shut up. Don't say anything mean or nasty and it just got worse and worse and then we threw in some BLM and everything with color became an issue and cheap labor. Ultimately it's cheap labor, and when I say cheap labor not just in some factory of which there is not that much left anymore in Europe but cheap labor in the kitchen, cheap labor to do your lawn, cheap labor to wash your car, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap labor keep all of your kids on a... It's about money! Keep all of you kids on debt for education

21:11 you know, jack everything up. It's about money! Now so who is that? Obviously the Jewish bankers I mean what answer do you want from me we all know the answer first of all I don't think it's about... The Rothschilds! I don't think it's about money because there's guys half these guys are on welfare they're doing amount of its it's about breaking the backs in Western civilization right It's not about money. I mean, there are these people... half these migrants aren't doing the law on anybody's lawn that's nonsense and if you could do their own damn lawn people can do their own laundry all the things that they say oh who is going to clean your toilets? Clean your own damn toilet by slicing it off. Have you been to the UK recently? No i haven't been since 2017

21:57 But that's fairly recently and it was pretty bad then. It has accelerated, it has accelerated. Yeah well it has accelerated under Biden in this country when they let in 20 million immigrants that didn't do anything but take away apartment complexes. Alright stop! So then its about political power if you want to equate it to what happened here we have a first row seat, it was about redistricting getting more in this case democrat seats and illegal voters. So isn't it ultimately about power? And isn't power about money or is just about power? No, powers are about power! So they can sit there and stroke their white pussy go, I control you all you plebs... possibly?! I think that's closer to that but then who who was behind this? Well definitely socialist Marxist Democrats That's it and I think that is-I was thinking about this the other day

22:51 that the whole world, even humanity itself naturally migrates towards socialism and Marxism until it's too late and they figure out oops that wasn't a great idea because the alternative which is a republic and freedom like the United States originally was is not comfortable. It's a little scary you know? You might have to get your hands dirty to keep things the way you want it to be. So I think that's almost human nature, like well but just once someone take care of me and the more

23:28 that is allowed to happen, the more people feel comfortable with it until you realize you've built a prison up around you and you can't really get out of it. So yes, Marxist is probably the best description because its cultural Marxism we went through that man were talking about that in 2009 even when Obama came in as all cultural Marxism and that is now completely a thing and ultimately the systems. And just look at our own political, our own representatives like California I think California is like hey man just take care of me so i can hang out bro isn't that just human nature? That was one of the great things about America as we said no We're going to govern ourselves and you can have a republic if you can keep it because it's hard! Then when you have the Marxists

24:26 socialist government and system, well that's great because the people who are chosen as so-called leaders and representatives they love it. Because it is never a problem for them they make sure that they get their salary and they've got their health care and they've got their cars and they're taking care of... Well this is well and good but let's go back to the original question which is, this is coordinated. You don't have drag queen story hour in Sweden and the UK and the United States out of the blue. You don't have the same exact formula for the immigrants coming they get a credit card they get a cell phone and they get this they get that they get free housing like in New York as a classic example at The Roosevelt somebody there is a group

25:18 that's identifiable. Yes? I can't identify them, i'm just saying they have to be identifiable that is behind the whole thing somehow. All right! You've managed to pull this off and I think it's obligatory for us to figure out who these people are and name them Okay well...I hate to say it because you're not gonna like my answer but the true enemy of the people in this world is Satan And we have a lot of Satanists running the show, running around doing all kinds of satanic things. Well I'll let that slide as a distinct possibility but there's still actual people... Yes!

26:00 that need to be called out, named pointed out and strung up literally. Okay. Well let's just name one. Let's start with the low-hanging fruit. Macron, Starmer Queen Ursula Peepers go with those people in fact I have a clip here which kind of brings us all together Because it's AI, but it was so funny and so true at the same time. This is President Trump doing... Oh this a good one! Yeah you've heard of him? Getting out of the car? Yeah yeah exactly So President Trump is doing kind of like an E Entertainment Channel red carpet voiceover Not president trump But president trump AI version

26:57 is doing a red carpet voiceover of the arrival of the European Union leaders to The White House for THE SUMMIT. Okay, let's see who arrives now this guy they say he's the president of Finland looking like the captain of a cruise ship we need to get him a captain's hat later on okay who the fuck is this guy? These Europeans all look like accountants. Yes, sir. I come to do your taxes. Okay? Thank you, sir. Ah the British Prime Minister they say this guy is gay. I don't know if that's true or not. I just think he's a dork. Hey this guy is definitely gay and his wife is a man and she beats him mm well poor guy

27:40 Georgia Maloney. I love her, I told her and Ilan that if they ever have a kid They better name him Ilone Maloney. Ursula, I like that she calls me daddy they all should when you think about it Good day! I come to see my American Daddy Yes thank you very much There's always truth in humor You know? It is true Accountants, cruise ship captains Losers Weirdos How did they get there

28:18 That can only be... Yeah, that is actually the question of the day. That can only be through corruption and voting I think that fix has been in so long on that everywhere They figured it out a long time ago And you know what? The people deserve it We deserve what we got too! Now we have President Trump and now its even hard for him to hold onto anyone supporting him because you know Epstein, Epstein, Epstein Yeah, so that is a question I fear unfortunately will never have to remain unanswered. Satan! Yes that's my answer that is the enemy of the world. That's a nice answer it doesn't help. It does if we all start to pray.

29:05 Not for a lapsed Catholic, no. But it's okay I pray for you too You can pray all you want It is not a good answer it doesn't solve anything Oh okay well say what are you gonna do? Doesn't solve anything that's the problem The United States of America has a chance of getting out of some of this nonsense unscathed We really do particularly our... Yeah we'll tell that to the Roosevelt Hotel I'm telling you tell that to all the 20 million a wallet took was one guy Biden comes in it doesn't know what he's doing why it only takes one generation thanks one night yes that's right that one guy four years well with you got to add Obama to it Obama was a big part of it. He was a big part of it, it took it took a generation the Millennials weren't paying attention can't blame him

29:55 They were psy-opped into believing... No, they're total stooges. They were psy-opped! They were psi-opped into believing that you need a college education in gender studies and then you'll come out and make $150,000 dollars a year learn to code and meanwhile butt crack plumbers can do a buck fifty! Come on!! It was a code. It was my favorite was a psyop yeah, we fired you hold all the entire The entire pipeline operations shuttered you guys should just learn to you pipeline workers You just learned to code do we have any oh here's? Here's Joe Biden I come from a family where an area where is coal mining screen

30:37 Anybody who can go down 300 to 3,000 feet in the mine sure and he'll learn how to program as well. Hey man you can learn how to program! You can learn how to program and if you can go down a mine you can learn how to program. Guy can't even program his phone. Well let's get into this summit meeting for a moment because there are a couple of things I'll just set it up with Unbelievably, unbelievably and I'm sure you have clips of this right? You've got an analysis. Yes you do. Bolton

31:15 Farts sniffing Bolton. I by the way my analysis is so off the wall that you Blow out everything you can before we play it okay, so Bolton fart sniffing Bolton You be I'm not saying that flippantly wasn't he in a club where they sniffed each other's farts in New York or was that just? What yes Yes, I'm sure of it ah Yes, I mean I'd like to add this funny We talked about on the show No. Yeah, hold on a second... Okay go ahead do your look up and see if you can find it Okay well I have here it is National Security Longest serving national security advisor the question is who was that? yeah who's she gonna bring on this show is the point Who is she to back up all these claims of hers and the fact that Tulsi's a horrible person Who's she going to bring on The Fart Sniffer What's his name

32:15 The mustache man. Boom! What's his name? Fart sniffer. He just called him a fart sniffer. Listen, listen so we understand there was a story that we've discussed that he would go to some club in New York where they would sniff each other's farts am I... No Yes yes i'm gonna like the idea it's funny but let me find you defending it you imagine that is true It's kind of disconcerting It was, uh... Ah! I like that. There's the opening of the show Yes there was a weird perverted club in New York. There you go i'll save that one ah I've got it Watson Tennessee Williams Was a part of this club No Okay no Tennessee Williams was part of a necrophiliac club Well that's even worse than fart sniffing I'd say

33:17 Anyway, we don't have to belabor the point of what Bolton does in his spare time. But he did do something interesting and... Well, he looks like a guy who sniffs. Precisely! It's so... That's the reason that the joke is funny but to believe it to be true is all over the top You know what? I'm just making it true Should we ask Error? We can do that Yeah There you go Ask our buddy Error Hey Error Is it true that John Bolton belonged to a club where people sniffed each other's farts Oh, two three. Well she's digging. A rumor that seems to have popped up from nowhere There is no evidence or credible reports of John Bolton being involved in anything like this. Ah you suck! See AI is wrong again. Uh-huh She actually did some digging on that one I had the channel closed uh...I didn't have her open Her mic was not opened Anyway

34:18 So here's Bolton and he does something interesting for the first time that I can recall in an interview, and this is NPR. Putin's pretext for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine was the possibility of Ukraine's NATO membership. NATO membership is a security guarantee so given that what indication is there that any security guarantee... Is there any security guarantee that President Putin would accept? Well, there's a lot of loose talk in the West about security guarantees and many observers have pointed out we gave Ukraine security guarantees with Budapest memorandum in 1994. That didn't deter Russia then people throw around this talk of an Article 5 like provision you know article five in the Treaty of Washington created NATO

35:04 is famous for the line that an attack on one will be deemed an attack on all and nobody forgets the line, nobody remembers the line a little bit further down in Article 5 that says each party will take such action as it deems necessary. I looked it up! That's true we all have taken article five at face value for the first line not for the rest which Yeah, you know. Well we got your back if we feel like it did you know this? yeah I didn't know this i didn't know that was still optional I thought it was oh yeah well otherwise every time they missile accidentally in fact the latest thing would I don't have a clip of it

35:52 the rocket that hit, or I guess it was a drone that landed in Poland in a cornfield. And they were all running with their hair on fire over that? Could have triggered the whole thing if it was... It could have but it didn't. But that's not gonna happen? No we're not gonna have nuclear war and not going to any of that but as Queen Ursula let out on last episode when she was doing her little love fest with Zelensky in Brussels It's going to be the Europeans. Now, the question is what exactly does that mean? And I think what they all want is they want hundreds of thousands of European Union troops to be in Ukraine not on the border will have a demilitarized zone and The reason for that is They want to keep their war economy going and we're gonna be perfectly fine with that because we're gonna be selling them all the dumb stuff They're gonna be using for nothing

36:52 That makes nothing but sense. And then with a promise of EU ascension and we'll have to roust up some corruption, which... Okay, we'll see. Anyway let's uh since you've got an off-the-wall analysis I'll give the analysis our buddy Andrew Rasoulis Oh, there he is. That's the pure buddy! This is your go-to guy if people don't notice this you're gonna be hearing a lot from this guy for the next six months. Yes because we like him we think that he's a former War Department guy in Canada and he knows what he's talking about so and he has a pretty clear view of things and it seems straight up good to see you on these key days and this is one certainly some

37:42 Some of the true social posts I was just mentioning, I wouldn't mind beginning there because they're the latest we've heard from US President Trump. Let's look at this in the one line he has written, President Zelensky can end the war with Russia almost immediately if he wants to. He seems to be putting the onus entirely on Zelensky here Andrew what is he seeking to accomplish with this messaging? Well, I think the messaging is that basically the overall parameters of a deal are coming together. Now that is from Trump's perspective but he's basically saying there's a deal to be made here, there's going to be concessions on territory – in fact reflections of reality since Ukrainians were not going to militarily retake their lost territories

38:27 And the key thing, your quote from Vitkov about the Russians making for the first time a concession on security guarantees legal security guarantees for Ukraine. That's a new one so I think from Trumps point of view saying there is the deal you got it Yeah, there is the deal and the deal includes Crimea. And whatever security guarantees you want it will not be NATO Okay well hold on for a second we'll come back to security guarantees because this truth social post continues that there will be no I just love how The anything on the internet truth social acts what occurs if Zelensky's put not posted That'd be funny of Zelensky posting on true social. That would be cool But instead he does it on X

39:08 So this is now how the news operates and President Trump's pretty smart with this. I'll give you my statement, thank you for your attention to this matter. For Ukraine, deciding its future is so... All caps. It's obvious no NATO! You know it's so essential to all of its demands So again what do you make of that part of Trumps latest social media posting? I think it's a reality check here for the Ukrainians because the war started The Russians attacked Ukraine over the issue of NATO enlargement

39:48 Up until right now, the Russian position has been that the war will only end when Ukraine becomes a neutral country. That is completely not militarily connected to the West Whether politically or militarily. Now, the concession apparently that Vitkov is saying of a legal guarantee bilateral not NATO but NATO style legal guarantee That is a Russian change They're actually saying Ukraine what's left of it can actually have a legal security guarantee with the West including the United States That's a fundamental shift actually. That IS big and that is...that's a huge concession

40:28 And I think that's why President Trump is like, we got a deal here. It can't be NATO and by the way just to recall was it not Vice-President Kamala Harris who went to the Munich Security Conference and started all this by talking about yeah NATO! We should put some nukes in Ukraine wasn't that her? I don't remember her saying putting nukes in Ukraine. No, no but mmm...I think Zelensky came right out of the Munich conference and said well yeah we should have nukes here but she was saying NATO Well he's always talking about nukes Of course that is what he does alright

41:11 question here what he thought of the EU leaders I think Maloney is actually really interesting to watch here because we've already seen a quote from her saying that in terms of these security guarantees she's disagreeing with the French president Macron who's constantly talking about bringing French forces at least, or a coalition of the willing forces into Ukraine after a ceasefire. Maloney is saying no! The Italians are really not opposed to that because they're saying there is X amount of Italians and Y amount of Russians and a whole bunch more Russians so she doesn't want to get involved in a potential war with Russia

41:50 over Ukraine. So security guarantees one thing, but boots on the ground in Ukraine is another thing. So that's... so Maloney is very interesting that way I think from Starmer and Macron and Merck we're going to get the typical yeah we're gonna boots on the ground you know Russia can't make a step forward the hard line but Maloney is actually the different one here Let's listen just for a second so we can see if we can recall it from this clip from MSNBC about Kamala at the Munich Security Conference. in the global forum calling out Russian aggression and calling out Russia for disinformation since 1962, since the Cuban Missile Crisis by Adlai Stevenson. What we're watching right now with Vice President Harris is an American leader essentially telling the world we are almost on the brink of war and we have to stop that clip. But see talking about 1962 Adlai Stevenson? I don't know it's Kennedy

42:58 Okay, Adlai Stevenson had nothing to do with the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. He was a twice failed presidential candidate in 52...52? I'm sorry 62 is when the missile crisis took place 60- 52's when he ran and he ran again four years later In 56 lost both times one of the last time the same guy ran twice He had nothing to do with anything after that. He was an Illinois governor, I mean it was like... What are they talking about Adlai Stevenson? What kind of a report is this? It's from MSNBC. The more you know in the morning, I mean come on! Thank you for correcting MSNBC. Surprising that they had something wrong i'm just trying to see if he mentions what Harris said. Since 1962 since the Cuban Missile Crisis by Adlai Stevenson and what we're watching right now with Vice President Harris is an American leader essentially telling the world

43:56 We are almost on the brink of war and we have to resist it because it will destabilize our entire way of life. And that is a powerful message. This is not a normal speech, this is a serious moment for the United States and for Europe. So Joel who's that message for? Who is Vice President Harris talking to? Is she talking to world leaders the American people Putin himself? First and foremost she speaking directly at that conference to the allies who are looking to her into United States for leadership at this moment, and she's saying we have delivered. We are with you, we are unified. And that is not always the message and she hinted it this that the United States has been giving certainly during President Trump. She's also making it clear to Vladimir Putin...and look at this juxtaposition really of the entire world, the United States- I'll look it up for Sunday show though. Well you're not gonna find it

44:51 Okay, you doubting Thomas. You know she's not gonna for you're not gonna find cuz she never did we can't do that We can't even suggest such a thing and if she did she's an ocean by okay I'm gonna go on out of limb here if she does she's an idiot Let's play the Poland stuff for a second just as a break okay the Texas war hot Poland in Texas I'm sorry, I said Texas because I got a Texas clip. I went back to Russia. You put me in the same category as Kamala. Yeah, Russia war hot but hot Poland

45:35 At least 14 people are reported injured in an overnight Russian attack on Ukraine's Sumy region. This includes a family with three children, aged five months four years and six years old. That is according to Ukrainian officials who say Russia launched 15 drones in the attack on the Sumy region in early hours of Wednesday Meanwhile in Ukraine's Odessa region, firefighters were dealing with the aftermath of another reported Russian drone strike. Ukrainian officials called it a massive drone strike saying it injured one person and caused a large fire over 50 emergency workers battled the flames

46:14 And in neighboring Poland on Wednesday, a military drone fell and exploded in a cornfield in the NATO member country. Polish officials say it may have been a Russian version of an Iranian drone. Once again we are dealing with a provocation by the Russian Federation with a Russian drone We are dealing with it in a crucial moment when discussions about peace are underway. Residents in the area where the drone made impact recount the moment of the explosion. You're sitting there, doing something on your computer, your wife practically asleep and then boom! The entire house shakes. An attack on Poland would mean an attack on NATO which could have serious consequences

46:59 Poland also directly borders Germany, which has the highest GDP and is one of the most influential countries in Europe. Poland's defense minister says Russia's goal is to provoke Western allies. Yeah that drone went off kilter and landed a cornfield big deal It's also somewhat dubious because they determined that it was Russian from some fragments And it's also exactly the kind of materiel that has been used in Ukraine. Yeah, I'm sure it is completely dubious by the way he did mention Germany and there... Did you notice Maloney sitting between Trump and Mr Peepers? Oh yeah!

47:45 Roll in her eyes and just going you know she did everything short of stinging a sticking your finger in her mouth And making up puke sound according to the Polish army no airspace Violations were detected from Ukraine or Belarus police discovered charred metal and plastic fat fragments scattered across the cornfield According to newspaper Respospolita, the wreckage may be from a Russian Shahed-131 36 kamikaze drone. The type commonly used in Ukraine So, you know not necessarily enough evidence to get NATO to invoke Article 5. We're not going to invoke article five on a cornfield attack. Cornfield! They are hurting our cornfields now Here's the part two At a time when President Trump is doing everything to bring about this peace and Ukraine is open to concluding this peace

48:42 The provocative strategy and hybrid war continue. So far Russia hasn't commented on whether Poland was the intended target. Really? Like they're gonna comment, hey you were targeting that cornfield come on be honest! So, while the first clip was playing I read through the transcript of what Vice President Harris said and she did not say specifically NATO is going to defend Ukraine but it was so implied. So, but it was enough. It was enough at the time Putin said that you know hey it's because of your stance that we did this because you were starting to rattle the sword. She is just as responsible as anyone Yes! This is what I wanted to point out Well you got that part right Her fault. Its all her fault

49:36 She didn't do anything to stand it off, stand it down. That's for sure. Yeah. Let's listen to... Well I have NPRs Morning Edition report of the Coalition Of The Winning. Oh God! The morning edition is getting worse. Well that's what we have From Brussels, Terri Schulz joins us now to talk about the challenges Europe faces with so many factors still dependent on Washington. So Terri how have European leaders been digesting the events from DC? Well quickly is the best way I can describe it! It was less than 24 hours after those meetings at the White House that the EU leaders who'd been present there were back here in virtual sessions debriefing their counterparts and that urgency just goes to show how high stakes this situation... Stop!

50:22 They're the leaders, right? They are the leaders. Yes Who are their counterparts then who would be a counterpart now that's if you're that if you're the president Yeah Do you have a counterpart another again? Another guy above you or even equal to you? No, I mean there's 27 member states so maybe the other people... Oh like the Poles and the Hungarians. And that urgency just goes to show how high stakes this situation is for Europe They had both a meeting of this coalition, the willing that some 30 countries which have expressed their readiness to physically help support a ceasefire in Ukraine. And they had one with just the 27 EU member countries. President Trump has made it pretty clear that he wants Europe to take the lead on Ukrainian security. That's our understanding right? That's right and more or less already decided that themselves before Trump became more supportive of Ukraine but now the president has confirmed it many times over

51:20 And the good news for the Europeans is that Trump is now pledging for the first time to help with these security guarantees for Ukraine. Chairing a meeting of EU leaders, European Council President Antonio Costa said Europe is actually now working hand in hand with the US. Their commitment to participate in the security guarantees with the Europeans and other like-minded countries is a very important step A very welcome step. Now Costa says there's still a difficult road ahead but Europeans are feeling reassured by the new US support of course we don't really know what it means is it boots in the air? Is it yeah, we'll do some flybys you know maybe will drop some supplies this very is not clear what will get what we're gonna do I predict will be doing very little other than dropping off the orders

52:09 What did you order he ordered some tanks here they are what do you got your fries with that flying them in how might this look though? Practically, I mean this coalition has been meeting for months without the participation of the u.s Well and also without even a basic outline of what if final peace deal might look like between Russia and Ukraine so what would be the rules and protections and obligations of such a mission on the ground? In addition, it's been hamstrung since it was created by the US lack of support earlier which is really critical both in terms of capabilities such as intelligence sharing and surveillance where the U.S. is dominant but also the deterrent factor sort of this stick

52:45 that you have with an agreement backed by the US, especially in the eyes of the Kremlin. So now discussions will take a new more optimistic shape. Now President Trump says no U.S. troops would join this mission so how willing are Europeans to send their people into Ukraine? Well, that's a huge unanswered question because it's not clear whether this mission would be to sort of monitor a ceasefire or reinforce it or defend certain lines and those verbs all mean very different things carrying different levels of danger for those deployed. In general European countries are going to have to send forces and it seems about 10 have committed to doing that so far but some options are much less palatable than others

53:22 And if this is a small force that's just there to deter Russia reattacking Ukraine, this is sometimes described as a tripwire force. What happens if it IS attacked? We don't have any answers yet or are we going to need to see hundreds of thousands of European military personnel armed to fight back?" Yes! I think that's pretty unlikely No, I think it's very likely and they have to There is a very high unemployment level in the European Union People have no work. There's only one thing left to do. Constric- uh, what's the? Constriction? No, constriction. Constriction! Conscription! I like constriction as the same thing. Conscription thank you. Yeah

54:04 It has to be a military draft. They're already talking about it in Germany and nobody wants it, but okay Oh the German the German youth do not want to fight for Germany or anybody else for that matter there is something like didn't they did a survey so it's like only 20 20th maybe 30% at the most Yeah would take up arms for Germany So thirty percent much they hate their own country 30 percent will go into the military and 20% will be, well actually more than that. It'll be 50% women who probably won't have to go and the 20% of men who don't want to go they're going to be doing podcasts I mean there's nothing else for them to do! There is nothing else And that's what you need like hey Do you want to have a good pay? Go into the Luftwaffe and get in there it's gonna be every single country it'll be a pretty good gig

54:59 Because nothing's going to happen other than some fear-mongering. I think Russia likes it, we're probably gonna do some great business with Russia that's what i think is happening here President Trump president Putin like okay or whoever that is because man that guy have you the pictures of Putin? It just doesn't look like Putin anymore and by the way somebody pointed out something because we have a fake First of all, a little backstory. Mimi's working with the guy in Los Angeles to produce a book and memoirs of this guy is doing I'm not gonna say who Oh another book? Gateway Publishing? Gate View. Gate View. I'm sorry. It was marketing, marketing, marketing. Yeah it was a gate view! I'll never forget now One of his best friends was Kennedy's double

55:55 Wow. And he was so, apparently was incredibly depressed when Kennedy was assassinated Yeah, he lost his gig He lost his gig So some one of our producers pointed out in the email this morning saying that The fake Trump is up and around because the fake Trump has a tell Yeah, I'm a little dubious about this but it's possible. I am dubious about it too but I just like it and if I was going to say it people can figure out for themselves. I'm dubious about all the fakes by the way except for that Hillary, that one with the purse on the wrong side and she is short squat woman And daddy long legs Biden come on Oh and the double Biden yeah there are at least three Bidens So thats two out of four now okay Okay well half of them might as well go all the way They're all fakes y'all bodyguards

56:45 This Trump says that when he's talking in third person, he says the Trump administration. He refers to the Trump administration when the real Trump always says my administration. Yeah but that speech written? Well maybe not That well, it's something to look out for. I just say was an interesting tell if true It's possible now because you know Dick Gregory had this back in 2015 2016 before he died Oh yeah He talked he had the thesis that there were two Trumps and one of them He says the real one always wore the red tie and the fake when war blue tie Yeah And that's when Trump only appeared with those two ties now your worst pinky wears yellow. He was all kinds of tight Allow me to play that clip

57:29 The few weeks before Trump's election? First, there are two Trumps. Okay The one in the red tie is the real one and the blue tie is not. The one you saw last night after the victory was the blue tie Now if you would punch up Dr. Carson, Ben Carson when Trump called him a pedophile Predafile And the next day he joined Trump and the guy asked him see every now and then you slip and say sir He said why did you do that? He says it's 2 trumps I was with the good one. You see it there? Just punch up, when somebody interviewed him he said that's two Donald Trumps! That's easy to pull up

58:18 You know, there's a... I forgot about the Ben Carson anecdote. Yes There is a different theory which i quite like and the only reason that bring it up because this clip kind of... By the way we are the only podcast in the best universe Of course That talks about body doubles when its known fact that they're used to an extreme The theory goes that the elites have long since perfected the art of cloning, ever since that stupid sheep. Yeah, that's stretch. Dolly, Dolly the Sheep... just a stretch! I met that dog. It-I thought it was a sheep? Oh no, I met the first cloned dog. Yeah and what did he say?

59:01 Hi. He said hi, okay but I'm just saying because the theory keeps coming back and people email me this very seriously so i take these things seriously because they clearly believe that it's if not possible that its true And that many celebrities already have their clones and of course they need to shut up otherwise, you know, they'll have to do all the work themselves. That would suck. Heaven forbid! And, you know and that the real Putin this is a story. The real Putin, the OG Putin is dead he died because remember he had cancer, he had leukemia... They kept trying to kill him in train wrecks. Yeah they kept trying to blow him up so he was dead but luckily they have the clone and President Trump himself in 2022 kind of alluded to this Do you respect Putin?

59:59 Well, he's a different person. I'll tell you something... I got along with him and look i got along with him loving this country and he loves his country okay? But he is a different person than he was He seems to be different Is he sane? Is he solid mentally? It just doesn't seem to be the same person that I was dealing with There ya'go! It's a clone. Well, that's an interesting clip The problem I have with it is why haven't they if they can make a clone? Why haven't they perfected it? I mean I've heard the reasoning behind it that it kind of actually looks like the person it's not a clone If he doesn't look like him if he doesn't think like him if he doesn't act like him. It's not a clone It's detectable

1:00:52 Well if you're gonna it I can see the rat you I can see somebody coming up with reasons. I mean for one thing the developmental aspects of a person you can develop worry lines or using aging, just normal process of getting older and older. You might get a bad habit that creates a line in your face or you ate too much and you're getting a chubby face. I mean there's all these variables that you can't control in terms of making your copy so You might have what somebody should ideally look like genetically. They'd look like this if they hadn't, you know chubbed out when they were in their 30s and then lost a lot of weight to the prosempic. Congratulations! You have nailed the theory of clone difference to the T. It's exactly right because even though you can make the clone and you can't control what the clone eats and the different environment they live in

1:01:52 versus their original DNA donor. That is exactly the theory, that's how it goes! And who knows if that phone call was the real Trump? We don't know anything. Breaking news! Nobody knows anything I don't even know... Well, that's a basic thesis of the show I don't even know if you're John C. Dvorak anymore I haven't seen in a couple years I dunno they may have replaced you Yeah, I could be a clone myself That's why I'm talking like this Well they nailed it on the attitude So good job science That's all it takes It's just genetic Nothing you can do about it. Anyway, Reuters went to the much more important things of the summit meeting obviously Reuters they would take the high road Another talking point from Monday's White House meeting that suit President Zelensky you look fabulous in that suit Zelensky black shirt and blazer combo certainly made diplomatic waves as well as keeping Donald Trump and journalist Brian Glenn happy

1:02:52 He was the one who called out Zelensky for his attire in February. Behind the new look, Ukrainian designer Viktor Anisimov. He told us he didn't tailor the look for Trump or anyone else. He says a leader should look dignified and that's it, and it was all very last minute. And Izhmov saying that he was working on alterations until just before Zelensky flew out to Washington I love the Reuters actually went through the trouble of trying to find the designer of the suits

1:03:28 Well, that's interesting because they tried to at least Fox tried to promote it as a bought the suit that day. It wanted of clothing stores in New York or Washington like H&M off the rack and that's mean. That's just Fox. That's just Fox being Fox. Yeah Yeah, it doesn't take that long. You know if you're in Asia for people out there who have ever traveled to anyone out there once goes to Korea I'd say even Taiwan to a lesser extent but Korea is the main place they have suit makers and eat one district as a bunch of these places. I know John used to have your shirts made tell them about The Pocket

1:04:10 And I would have... Well, I wasn't going to talk about the shirts. You are now! Okay, I used to have custom shirts made and always had a Perry Ellis pleat put in the shoulders which was no one else will do anyplace else so what they doing Hong Kong too? What kind of pleat it's a pleat that's on the shoulders that I noticed them Perry Ellis shirts used to have I notice an under bartender once and i asked him Because it has a certain look to it. It's a beautiful look and imperiella is the name of the Perry Ellis Oh, Perry Ellis Perry Ellis the Perry Ellis cleats okay fleet pleat Okay, I'm just trying to get it anyway so you can have this done So I have these shirts made with that pleat which is technically illegal yeah, but the

1:04:57 Because it's copyrighted or something. But anyway, so I always had my the shirt pockets were the exact same size as a CD So when you go to a party and you want to steal somebody CDs You could easily slip them in the shirt pocket they go right to the bottom boom no one would ever know you had him How many CDs did you wind up stealing? I never stole one. Just in case, just in case you need to. If had to, I had the means. Cop a disc. Yeah so these big pockets because yeah this pockets look large. Now the question is was it a five inch floppy

1:05:39 No, it was a CD with the jewel case. It had to be...it was the size of his jewel case CD Hey man that guy's got some awesome tunes I'm gonna steal his CD You're your treasure. Oh, yeah and by the way I would be all for clones of us taking over the show I'm good put me in a tiny home Perfect let's go with growing doubts about America's willingness to defend its allies especially under President Trump some lawmakers are now discussing hosting sharing or even developing nuclear weapons They just threw that in Wow they just threw that in oh

1:06:23 Oh, they're just asking for trouble. Okay well now we're ready for my three clips? Yeah yeah well hold on... You got any more because you get them out of the way because after this is... It'll be done after this I know last one from Reuters about the whole security deal President Trump is weighing whether to offer US air support potentially including fighter jets. What is up with it? This is Reuters, they're a news agency that kind of dramatizing everything. President Trump is weighing whether to offer US air support potentially including fighter jets, to guarantee Ukraine's security in any future peace deal with Russia. Military planners in Washington and Europe are exploring options for post-conflict security following Trump's meeting with Ukraine's President and EU leaders which ended with plans for direct talks with Russia's Vladimir Putin. Steve Holland has more on the US calculations

1:07:22 One of the things they're not considering is putting US troops on the ground. That idea bubbled up in the last few days and President Trump has basically shot that thing down, but other ideas that are possible or the United States providing air support for whatever peacekeeping buffer is there along the border? There's also the possibility of supplying air defense systems to Ukraine to protect them from these drone attacks, missile attacks from Russia. Theoretically if there's a halt of the fighting these people would be there on a peacekeeping basis." Another option according to two sources Reuters spoke with is sending European forces to Ukraine but putting the US in charge of them

1:08:10 Whatever is worked out, President Trump will need to allay fears domestically. The American public is largely supportive of Ukraine but they're also leery of more foreign entanglements. Trump was elected on one of the notions that he would not involve the United States in overseas conflicts He has stuck to that and by ruling out troops he's trying to stick to that as well But his MAGA base of supporters They are really against this sort of thing, so Trump would have to provide them some sort of reassurances that the United States is not going to get into a hot war against Russia. Yeah because otherwise Dave Smith will get angry and Scott Horton will freak out How's that Middle East war going against Iran that we were gonna be in?

1:09:02 Yeah, but those guys are nuts. Now by the way you took me off of track with that shirt story I meant to talk about getting a suit tailor-made suit in Korea. Which is what people can do if you go to and I was saying if you go to Korea make sure to go to this district there's number of stores that do this shop around because there's about they price different differs a bit but you can get a tailor made suit for about 200 250 dollars and tailor-made sport coat for 150. They'll fit you, and then do the adjustments in the same day. You'll have a complete suit the next day. It doesn't take forever if they have the infrastructure.

1:09:43 So the idea that Zelensky had to go for a million, you know... Yeah but this is... Sit down and get his jacket. But this is haute couture! You know? Yes sure. Ukrainian fashion. The jacket. I'm sure- You know what? I am going to tell you right now that in the next Paris Fashion Shows, I don't when they're coming up fall maybe the Fall Fashion Show There will be black on black there had the head. There will be Zelensky inspired fashion It'll be from some previously unknown Ukrainian fashion designer and people will love it Oh, this is fabulous Very much very Zelensky of you very Zelensky look very very Zelensky of you all right By the way let me just say trolls

1:10:32 Dunk go it. They said oh yeah, dunk on the pro-peace people we're anti war and pro peace too Doesn't mean that some things know those why I think the pro-peace people in many instances as proven by these next three clips may be just Stooge's and I would say this chat room probably has more than a few stooges for China There you go because that's what the bombing of Iran was about In my opinion... Now let's, this is an analyst who is in the intelligence side of things so he's a little different in his approach to thinking about China. But when you think of, when they're talking about the situation going on in Ukraine and you're talking about trilateral what comes to mind? When I think about the situation in Ukraine and I think about trilateral

1:11:27 Now this is a riddle I don't know if i can solve. Well it shouldn't be hard for you to say, It means that the Russians and Ukrainians and Trump are going to get together in a trilateral three-way meeting Yes yes a threesome That's what everybody thinks trilateral is all about right? Right right You can't end the sentence with right right You can't, you're right. So not according to this analyst... This guy has a different look at things and he thinks that this war is designed to drag on and he's got his own reasons. This is quite an interesting analysis which nobody has even discussed or come close to.

1:12:17 Trilat one and joining us now to discuss these latest developments is national security advisor and China analyst Casey Fleming He's the CEO of black ops partners. Casey as always Thank you so much for joining us Now all eyes are on how the Russia Ukraine conflict is going to end Russia has just indicated it wants a trilateral with India and China What could this mean in terms of Putin ending or continuing? The war new I think what we're looking at man my team thinks that where we're looking at is an extended peace negotiation. We've got two sides, we've got the United States and Ukraine who want an immediate end to the war and you've got the other side which is China Russia and other allies of China and Russia who want to keep it extended and they play the long game so we wanna play the short game to a quick ceasefire

1:13:08 peace agreement, but the other negotiators the adversaries want to keep it much longer. The CCP is the wild card in this thing. The CCP plays the long game they want to keep Russia engaged in Ukraine therefore the US engaged in Ukraine to keep us distracted along with Middle East and potentially another war that pops up either Taiwan or North Korea So the game for the CCP is to keep the United States very distracted so they can continue their extreme aggression throughout the rest of the world. Oh, this doesn't surprise me that the NTD China haters would see this as the angle. That's not so surprising

1:13:52 Well, I agree 100% with the NTD China haters because they're totally on board. But you know China is running away from everywhere! I just read that Angola... But maybe it had been duped? What?! That 300,000 Chinese are fleeing Angola because the Angolans are sick and tired of their Belt and Road lies!? You may be, maybe that's not, maybe you've been duped. I mean, I agree that this is NTDs... China haters! Well the reason why I have these clips This is the worst case analysis It's not like best case Okay okay So it's worse cases now looking at China as the bad guy in everything you do Everything you see, everything you eat, everything you buy Is China Best place And so we'll continue with that thesis in mind

1:14:47 Now on that note, both China and India have been buying Russian oil which the US says has been helping to fund the conflict. Although India has been buying less since President Trump slashed additional tariffs on Indian exports to the U.S over its Russian oil and gas imports but reports know that China is involved with more than just economic support some note the No Limits Partnership that was struck right before the invasion what has been China's role here? China's rule has been very supportive of Russia You remember that they created a very strong alliance and agreement, friends until the end before Russia ever went into Ukraine. So there's a strategic partnership there at least for now where they are aligned against the United States and to

1:15:35 to remove the United States as a global superpower and for the CCP's eventual rule of the rest of, the rest of the world. So it's a partnership that we cannot ignore. The CCP is the wild card in this situation. They are the grand puppet master with Russia, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea underneath that and to a little bit extent India as well. So, China is the wild card. They want to keep this war going as long as they possibly can and if there is a temporary ceasefire or quote temporary peace agreement it will be temporary Okay and does he explain just how China is going to keep this war going as long as possible? I mean are they gonna do that through their misinformation but what tools do they have for this

1:16:28 Tucker Carlson? What do you mean, Tucker Carlson? Is he a pro-China guy all of the sudden? I don't think...I think there's a lot of unwitting dupes. You named a couple of them that are so called peaceniks, the people in the chat room that condemn us when in fact we're the peaceniks But why? Okay hold on, I'm with ya! I'm just trying to understand Where to look for this what it there's clearly not getting a phone call saying hey best price I think good examples mr. Peepers At the sit-down with Maloney in the middle rolling your eyes, and he's going on and on about how we should demand the ceasefire instead of the peace agreement

1:17:17 And the ceasefire is a... I'm with you on the European Union, Stooges for sure. Because we know it just by what we know which is that the ceasefire's a non-starter for Putin because he knows that all that means is just going to be a pause so Ukraine can regroup and re-attack. And so they can't have that, and they're not gonna do a ceasefire under the circumstances but yet wise Mr. Pieper's pushing it out of the blue knowing full well what happened with Trump and Putin but he's yak yak yacking it right there with Maloney in the middle

1:17:54 So I say the Chinese got their, and like this guy says is he's they're puppet masters. They get these puppets and the puppets are everywhere as according to him. And I think there's some evidence of that. Okay? First of all Maloney in the middle just sounds like a cool game. Spin the bottle on steroids. Maloney in the middle! Well, I'll ask you the question after you set up here at the last clip with us now have a question about this. And speaking of alliances, Casey what about the North Korean troops fighting alongside the Russians? How should we read that? The strong alliance like I mentioned China is the grand puppeteer. They're grand master puppeteer with Russia Iran Pakistan and North Korea underneath that piece of it and just to add a little bit of confusion and a little bit more complexity underneath Iran you have the terrorist organizations so

1:18:49 So this is all a master plan by the Chinese Communist Party. I think we as a government, we as a country in the free world underestimate China. We all have a long history of underestimating the Chinese Communist Party and it's high time that we understand just how critical their role is in future developments of the world Expand on this for us a little bit. What is China's goal in terms of the Russia-Ukraine war here? Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for it to continue? Absolutely, they are supplying Russia with finance buying Russian oil and military armaments, including drones. So they're fully engaged again they want this war to continue indefinitely... Hold on a second that's very interesting and I'll tell you why let me hear that last the first bit. And on that for us a little bit what is China's goal in terms of the Russia-Ukraine war here? Is it in the Chinese regime's interest for it to continue? Absolutely! They are supplying Russia with finance

1:19:49 buying Russian oil and military armaments including drones. Drones, the reason I pick up on that is because that was a main talking point by Queen Ursula in her Zelensky love fest where she said well you know it looks like there's gonna be mainly drones that we're going to be building in Ukraine so It's a twist, it's a twist around to think of it but maybe she is also in on this and like well you know there are just going to be lots of drones because China is going to do drones and we might as well do drones. We'll just keep this the drone thing cause its big money maker for my overlords in China

1:20:32 Does that make any sense? Yeah, I guess. Could be. Okay so they're fully engaged again they want this war to continue indefinitely so it keeps us distracted keeps us spread very thin from supporting you know two three wars around the world. So CCP has ultimate designs, I think when you have to look at it they want to rule the world completely in their hundred year plan which ends in the year 2049 as Xi Jinping and the CCP have been overachievers. You might want a forecast that of being year 2035 which is 10 short years away and here's a quote from me, The world will be won or lost

1:21:17 within the next 10 years. That's from our analysis of what has been going on and we've been in this game quite a long time. Well, here is my question if we have Stooges And I'm not going to go for podcasters or trolls in the troll room, but let's say Peepers maybe Ursula. Ursula is corrupt we know that because of just look at the text gate with Pfizer she's clear and she's not elected She just showed up all of a sudden from people's land. Yeah So what is the incentive for them? That has to be money You're not telling me that they are an adjuster for power

1:22:05 Well, that's a good question and I don't know the answer to it. There is an incentive of some sort... Money! Don't they just want to have lots and lots and lots of money? And just be you know... Well, I think they would have that type of attitude i'm sure because everyone's always jealous of somebody who did the billionaires in the United States and China which has almost as many and their luxury life, life of luxury. Yes. Villas here and there if they have them although our people don't do that so much No no but they like having their hair done in Paris and flying around Flying around basically And being extolled Extolled? Oh look at who I am! You know Yeah yeah Worshipped Worshipped yes

1:22:55 Well, there's a plan afoot. If it's money then there is something... There is a plan here that do you mind if I do a little series here? I relinquish the floor because i gave you my screwball analysis that nobody else has even touched. It's good? And now if you can do, if you got something else yes and also add to that... If it gets boring ill let ya know Yeah yeah I don't care Of course Well you'll let me know but won't stop me No no it never does make a difference You just get irked Im not even gonna get irked cause I think you'l like it

1:23:33 We do know that Mark Rutte, Secretary General of... It's not my series. Don't get too excited. Oh nuts! It's not Mark Rutte but he kept saying well you know NATO and we say yes the United States must pivot to Asia to the Pacific, must pivot to Pacific. So this is not only just Russia now but it must be the Pacific so that is definitely on deck and again I think our general agreement is that the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities was to send a message to China and it seems to have worked

1:24:16 It ended and President Trump even sent the Israeli jets back, you know because who's in charge there? You gotta wonder. Anyway so this starts off with Besant our Secretary of the Treasury who said no way I don't want to be the Fed! I don't like President Trump he was oh he loves what he's doing he wants to be that he wants he wants to be right where is no he does not want to be a part of the Fed And I think it's pretty clear that President Trump has his sights set clearly on the Fed and the power that they have. And everybody should be happy that, that that's being looked at because it sucks. It sucks that the Fed has so much power over our lives. So we start first with this is him with Kudlow

1:25:09 And this is kind of not really discussed that very much, but this foreign investment that we keep hearing about. Oh you know 500 billion from these guys 700 billion from these guys everyone's going to be... That's not just a direct check that they write off to American companies This is highly orchestrated We have these agreements in place where the Japanese the Koreans and to some extent the Europeans will invest in companies and industries that we direct them largely at the president's discretion. And how does that work? I mean, it is almost like offshore appropriation. I am not sure if we have ever had anything like that in the States before. Have you consulted with, uh... I don't know, the Senate Finance Committee or the House Waste and Means Committee or what? Well Larry

1:26:05 Good framing of that is other countries in essence are providing us with a sovereign wealth fund so so they're gonna buy our goods Well, that's essentially what's going on. Well wait let me step back They're gonna build our factories they're gonna help us to build new factories which mr.. Trump loves exactly So the way to think about it is these huge surpluses accumulated offshore Let's take Japan, we're going to have 550 billion and they will be reinvesting that back into the US economy. And we will be able to direct them as we reshore these critical industries. We are trying to de-risk the U.S. economy from what we saw during COVID. The president loves new factories! He'll take rehabbed old factories but he loves new factories

1:26:57 So I thought that was rather interesting, that basically the Treasury is saying okay here's where you're going to put the money. This is what you're going to do if true but it sounds and I'm sure that that's where tariffs and all kinds of other stuff comes into play that we're not told about like well uh you don't want to put your money into these companies tariff We're just gonna mess with you with tariffs so then It come this and thanks to Chris Fisher from Jupiter Broadcasting. He did a great series on these and I was that was taken by it And it's from Arthur Hayes

1:27:36 He's a former Wall Street guy, Deutsche Bank, Citigroup market maker in ETFs. Trader at CitiBank in Hong Kong he has been around but he also co-founded BitMEX which is a cryptocurrency exchange and he's widely regarded as someone who's smart and he explains the stablecoin gambit under Besant and the control it will have over the entire world, I think best via monetary policy and aggressive use of terrorizing sanctions can make people on board in the stable coins. The first is the euro dollar market, right? So you know 1950s and 60s euro dollar market was created because... And just we've been through this before but the Eurodollar market is nothing more than dollars that are not in America

1:28:35 but mainly traded in foreign exchange in Europe. And there's a lot of them and once they're in a non-American bank... You know, there's really not much control we have over it. So that's the Euro dollar as they call it. You know 1950s and 60s euro dollar market was created because of all the regulations and prohibitions around interest payments and trade flows that US monetary authorities are putting on commercial banks since you had these foreign branches of us banks and foreign banks saying hey I'll take your dollars outside of us control So we have this $10-$13 trillion market, which nobody has any control over. Oftentimes influences Fed and Treasury policy in terms of when dollars become expensive and cheap in the Eurodollar market—and you can probably trace almost every financial crisis outside of the United States to Eurodollar market flows

1:29:27 And, you know these flows are not doing what Bessett wants them to do. He can't control them he doesn't know where they are and he can't make them buy what he wants which is treasury bills so my idea and maybe he'll do this or maybe won't I don't is right now, why do you feel comfortable in a Eurodollar? Because every time your banking institution has gotten into trouble the Fed or the Treasury bails you out even if technically they shouldn't be doing it. So because you're not a member of the discount window don't follow US regulations but no we can point to many many up even 2008 the fed secretly bailed out all these foreign branches of banks for all their bad trading policies to make sure that the Eurodollar depositor

1:30:05 What's sweet? So the idea here is to have stablecoin flood the world, but not just floating out there as dollar equivalents. But to have complete control over the users of it already 400 million people are using stablecoin throughout the rest of the world and this is how Besant never wants to go to leave for the Fed because he can actually neuter the Fed and control interest rates through the stablecoins backed by short-term US treasuries. So the first thing Besson should do is say, hey guess what? If you don't have your money in a US branch of a bank or a US bank inside of America, you do not have the guarantee any longer we will not come and save you anymore. All of a sudden these dollars are like oh okay well there isn't this blanket government guarantee from the Fed and the Treasury for these trillions of dollars that I have deposited on these banks but I could put my money into a stable coin

1:31:03 And a stable coin means that the dollars are either deposited at US branch of a bank in America or they're holding treasury bills. So if you don't feel safe in your Deutsche Bank account, and Switzerland or wherever this talk to your authorized participant and move these deposits over to a stable coin. Now you have access to your dollars. You have the blanket guarantee of the U S government And guess what? You might earn a bit of yield on your money because you probably don't get much of a yield in the euro dollar deposit outside of America because the banks actually need your money and they have to pay capital charges for the Basel III, blah blah blah. All the bad things about why banks like large

1:31:41 And so now you have a $10 to 13 trillion TAM of money that could flow into stable coins from abroad. And once they're in the stable coin, Besson has full control. He knows where you are, which bank he... He knows where you're clearing your treasuries And the best part is he can offer you a yield that's lower than Fed funds. So if Fed funds is four and a half, he could say, Oh guess what? I'll give you two on six month T-bill and you say well, I can't really do anything about that because I'm not going to go into a US bank deposit. The banks don't even pay you anywhere close to fed funds so fuck it. I'll just buy the 2% that Besson offers

1:32:19 So Besson can win one Phil Stroh completely new to the Fed and no longer does a Fed have any control over Fed funds because Besson can offer the Treasury bill at whatever price he wants, unconstrained by what Powell or whoever his successor does. So that's the control mechanism now how are we going to spread these stable coin around the world and the United States so everybody starts using them? We hearken back to Elon's Everything app, X-Money and not just him. What was that dumb Facebook coin? That they almost got through... I can't remember the name of that thing It was... I know who would know! Error? Error? Error would know. What was the name of the Facebook money that they tried to push through

1:33:13 So about the last bit, the Facebook settlement money payment from the 700 and no see she's stupid. Oh she's dumb She's a dummy yeah Facebook had a coin they tried to push into the market oh You mean like the launch quite on the belief platform? It's been okay now has no answer for me stupid Well, she should. The corpus would have that information. Yeah alright stable face whatever it was called Someone will eventually come up with it Maybe you dreamed it the fart coin Zuckerbucks no none of that Zuckerbucks That's it The Libra there It is thank you Thank You weirdo the Libra and everyone's all in Weirdo is a guy's name was weirdo W-I-R-D-O Weirdo

1:34:05 So, what could you do now to spread your stablecoin throughout the world? The US has ways. You have... a lot of retail around the world in developed and developing countries. I live in Asia, and basically the entire investment game out here in Asia is how do we get local currency into dollars so that they can buy higher yielding assets and equities? That's literally all of finance in Asia. And then every so often regulators come after people and they basically put their young guy in jail and the boss stays sweet as they And that is the game. So BESA could say, OK, guess what? We're going to deputize Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg and give them protection to go and offer a stablecoin bank account. An we don't care if a foreign regulator or whether banking or Internet regulators says we don't like this. We don't like that you're basically giving $1 bank account to our entire underclass or anyone who's not a wealthy individual.

1:35:07 They don't care because they're sitting in Hawaii and Austin, Texas. and Trump is protecting them. And if you go and try to remove access to Facebook or X, guess what? Sanctions just like what he would Trump threatened with Europe when they had their the digital information act or whatever it is. So that's how they'd spread around I'm told that of all the things he saying like that makes a lot of sense in looking at the genius act that would be possible if they adhere to certain but basically have $10 billion in cash. Well, that's possible but now to bring it back around to the corrupt CCP-influenced politicians this is another perfect gambit for it and then furthermore Besson finally has a sanctions weapon right so if you're in Asia or a lot of developed countries

1:35:58 And I will say that, I could call this a boring presentation but it's interesting at the same time. Which is... That's conundrum! But that's not why i'm stopping you. Who was this guy again? Arthur Hayes What's his background? Wall Street banker and the founder of Bitfinex A big cryptocurrency exchange but he's long term mainly in Hong Kong, Deutsche City He says he's an Asia Yeah Yep. Okay, okay this is the last clip so thank you for hanging in there and then furthermore Besson finally has a sanctions weapon right? So if you're in Asia or a lot of developing world all the elites essentially steal from their people and put their money in US banks in some way shape form and so guess what president or prime minister or parliamentarian

1:36:52 If you don't allow Western social media companies to bank all of your people with dollars, I'm going to sanction you and you're going to lose access to the billions of dollars that you stole from your people. And so guess what's gonna happen? Nothing." And so I think that is how you're going to get sort of like... $20-25 trillion TAM of money that could flow into dollar stablecoins. And I think they're hinting at this already in terms of, you know, you have the major social media companies saying we're investigating stable coins and this, that and the other thing. And Besson's very pro on them And then basically what's a stablecoin do? They're going to buy treasury bills and they'll buy whatever yield Besson offers. He can completely destroy the Fed, he could put short-term rates wherever he wants it and now he's got a sink of tens of trillions of dollars that he can essentially fund the US government with until they do some sort of yield curve control to bring down on the long end. Exactly! Until it no longer works which is probably 10 years or so but then it will no longer work I think this is a decent thesis

1:37:52 Well, it's a fascinating one. That's for sure and it also could be the...it could end the Fed but it could also collapse on itself at some point for some reason unknown and bring the entire world's economy to a halt, at least for awhile because you can't do it forever but it could become the linchpin of the economy which would interesting to see, but I think the angle that you caught which was the interesting thing that caught my attention and made me want to listen to the whole thing which is yes Elon Musk has been talking about making X a all in does everything for your kind of monetary market of some sort.

1:38:40 to compete with, well stablecoin wants to compete with the Fed and with Swift. Yep. Elon Musk wants to... Enter Russia? Russia comes back into the fold now that we can trade? Right which is what we want. We want Russia back in the fold and then you have Elon wanting to compete with PayPal since he never, he always felt wronged in some funny way because they didn't do certain things. They kicked him out of PayPal that's why he felt wronged. That's whenever people connect Peter Thiel to Elon Musk like those there is no love lost between those two and that's why he spent millions of dollars getting x.com back because he always wanted PayPal to be called X

1:39:27 And they kicked him out probably because he was no good. Or at least for now what they wanted. Probably because he's annoying, I think he is good. He's just annoying! But he's got to be annoying, even Trump figured that out. Yeah and he's been very quiet you know where's his new political party? I think he's been ready hey we're gonna make you the stable coin queen. He's been very quiet Yeah, more or less and he does they need let's all the pro-Trump Activism goes right through X. No problem never you know doesn't get bumped off or anything a lot of screwball stuff on X I have to say it's fun I Know ICU someone someone was like you always complaining that you can't get past 100,000 followers But you're not growing your account like Dvorak

1:40:28 You're not growing. I'm not growing, my account shrunk again. But just the whole concept of you've got to grow your account man by posting a lot that's how you grow your accounts and when do i reap the harvest from this growth? When do I get it? Well there is no harvest to be reaped except its prestige Yeah! I would say that I am going to subscribe...I gotta check mark because in my numbers but I am going to subscribe to X Oh And I'll betcha' my numbers will go up Oh, now there's an interesting if... oh that's very interesting. Yeah that's what my thesis is I've been waiting on it because when it stabilizes I'm going to subscribe and then I want to see if my numbers because the my number should technically go up And this will grow your brand It'll grow the brand of the Dvorak thing The fabulous and valuable Dvorak brand

1:41:21 Yeah, man. Grow your account and your brand work this is beautiful I'm well if you can do it and if it works I'm all in yeah Well we'll see how it's a test coming up coming up coming up We're gonna I'll report back just to make sure we don't fall asleep breaking exclusive breaking exclusive Breaking exclusive! Missouri AG Andrew Bailey being brought in for the future replacement of FBI Director Kash Patel. I just love Alex. Breaking exclusive!! Okay... What? Oh yeah, well first of all he's deputy director not director Yeah they're bringing in two new guys

1:42:11 to be co-deputy directors because as you well pointed out, that was the breaking exclusive on this show. You know? Oh no actually Kash Patel is the director I'm sorry Yeah he is a director I know what your talking about Let's think of Bongino Bongino? No, Kash Patel...I think like Bongino He wants to pop out! He's tired of it! He didn't like it! No there's nothing better to do Kash Patel?! Yeah He can do podcasts Nothing better to do He can do podcasts No. No, yes! He's no good People love podcasts Well they love podcasts but he's you know... You gotta have some chops By the way I need to tell you my story I went to the podcast movement in Dallas Ah here we go Yeah I went to the podcast movement in Dallas Was it a bowel movement? No, no So this is the big Podcast Industrial Complex conference Were you around when

1:43:11 Yeah, I don't know if you were around when... I'm sure it was around. Well you were around but you're alive on this earth! The first so we had the New Media Expo which always took place in California what's that place that sounds like a Canadian place? Ontario, Ontario California And the New Media Expo, then those guys were very smart. And they said well you know this podcast thing has taken off let's call it the Podcast Conference and they did their first one in Vegas and we had pod show at that time so I don't know if you were there yet? They said to me hey Adam would you come do... You've complained about this for a while

1:44:01 Well, this upcoming complaint that you're going to discuss. Yes just to reiterate come and do the keynote I'm like i don't really like doing keynotes but you invented it okay we're fine um and they said okay i'll do the keynote okay can we put you down for a gold sponsorship? I'm like what well yeah if you want the keynote you have to be a gold sponsor Which I think was $10,000 or $15,000. And like no? In fact, I won't charge you for a speaking fee for showing up! They got enough?! Like ma'am... You're not supporting the industry. It's- You got all that VC money now we did this true

1:44:46 You got all that VC money? Yeah, you got VC money but not to squander it. When you give a keynote, you should be paid to do the keynote and not pay them! Thank you. So bad man... Like no and I got pretty heated. I said we're not gonna do your keynote, we're not going to do a sponsorship Well then you can't do the keynote well fine And what we then did is we took our $10,000 and We started an unconference in the hotel right next door at the pool with chicks and bikinis and drinks I'm sure you would have remembered if you were there. I would have remembered that so I came later and it was the podcast un-conference and everybody was hanging out we had the mixed drinks, beer... It did not endear me to the Podcast Industrial Complex but we were rebels! Rebels I tell ya So of course i never got invited to do anything with any Podcast Industrial Complex conference until gosh is now three years ago

1:45:46 So you were blackballed for being a dick. Correct! Or not playing the game, but I agree with you...I think your thesis...I think your... You stood on proper grounds. You were doing it and your professional. You don't pay somebody so YOU can give a speech Well, I know you haven't done any conference speeches for awhile But that is now pretty much the entire game Yeah, well that's why one of the reasons I probably haven't done any conference speeches in the last five plus years at least. At least? Because if that's the game i'm not playing the game! I don't have time for that crap...I can- I have a podcast to attend too and yes you do you need to grow your brand You're busy with it And I need to grow my brand on Twitter You're busy doing things that are very important growing your brand

1:46:42 So three years ago, because of the out-of-the gate success of the podcast index and there's a lot of noise around Podcasting 2.0 and new apps were coming up they said well you know if you want to do a session we'll make something available to you And I said, well you know because at this point i wanted to just meet a lot of these people who've been working on this project and so we all decided to meet in Dallas. They literally put us during lunch in a room way in the back on the third floor and with the expected results it was like 20 people there! No signage no promotion... So it was quite insulting

1:47:25 But that's a good one. Yeah, but it didn't cost money and we got to meet everybody and hang out for a couple of days so of course I vowed I would never do anything but then one of the participants in podcasting 2.0 Soundstack who actually do a lot of hosting and a lot of ad stuff for other podcast hosting companies, and they're most known for Live 365 live streaming which is a big part of Podcasting 2.0 witness people listening to this on the modern podcast app Rocky Thomas she said hey Adam uh, we'll pay for a booth if you'll come and do a, you know what? Just the fireside chat. I was like that sounds like fun and I just, and I talked to my buddy Mitch, the periodontist he said yet you can use my plane. And so I flew up in the morning and flew back in the afternoon so I didn't have to stay overnight or drive five hours each way or spend seven hours getting there by commercial. So not too much skin off my bones. And

1:48:27 And the main thing I was, it was great. It was fun talked about no agenda how awesome we are value for value live stream all this stuff but what was new and this is something new for conferences which i was convinced would suck The way they do it now is they don't have a hundred, you know all these little rooms where you can shove 30-40 people in there and it always smells. You know what I mean? You get like those session rooms and just as smelly and sweaty... Am I right?! I never noticed the stench because I never played a small room! Well remember these are podcasters

1:49:09 So these are people who typically sit in their basement doing a podcast. Okay, it makes sense. And you know and then if it's full you know your people can't stand the back and you can barely move so there is no good. They have this giant expo hall at the Gaylord in Dallas and first of all its carpeted I gotta tell you when it comes to trade shows carpeting is very important particularly for people who are walking around all day It's good. Very thick, nice carpeting and they had all of these stages completely open with chairs in front and plenty of room for people to stand around And you'd think this would be a nightmare with all these different interviews and speeches and keynotes going on But no! They have...and I guess this is new thing with conferences You walk into the expo hall everybody gets a pair of headphones wireless headphones

1:50:05 and there's three controls on the headphones. On, off, volume button and then a channel selector and the headphones on the outside turn color white blue red green or purple indicating what channel you're listening to so we're sitting on stage we have headphones on we have hand mics and we were on the white channel which I did say was kind of racist and the whole audience packed all had headphones on with it. You could see if someone wasn't listening, like someone's on the red channel you could rouse them and call them out but no one was doing that and they all have their headphones on I thought this was going to be the stupidest thing in the world like how lame is this? I gotta tell you it was fantastic It's like doing a podcast where everybody's on the podcast only they don't have mics

1:50:59 And they're all listening because you're in their head, between their ears. No one was on their phone, no one's looking down, no one is looking away... It was really revolutionary for the conference business! I will hand that to them." Sounds terrible. That's what i thought but it's not So they had all these stages like an outdoor concert with multiple stages? Yes And these guys talking, oh that's... You know then like I walked past a big stage and there was James Cridland was interviewing the guy from Coat Hanger or Goal Hanger whatever it's called.

1:51:40 I like coat hanger better. And, uh, and they're just talking. You never would have been able to hear them from way in the back, but it just put the headphones on clicked on that. That makes sense. It was great instead of, you know, you can't really hear people are poorly mic is not loud enough. You got feedback now we all could've just stayed at home and be on zoom to be honest about it Well, if you have a good audio engineer who knows how to stage speakers. So there's the delay between the front speaker and the back speaker in such a way that sounds like what do sound like? The voice of God when he is speaking up there. I prefer nobody has those guys anymore. I don't know why they guess they learned code where they went. They learn how to vibe codemam anyway it was it was very enjoyable

1:52:33 And then just a bunch of people I knew. So everybody's gonna have ear infections is what you're telling me? That was kind of the disgusting part, they did not hand out little sanitization kits You know where we can just wipe down the...you know get sweaty...you wouldn't have liked it because you get ear mold, you get sweaty ears Ear mold! I don't need the aggravation of ear mold So that was the... so welcome all those new people who are listening. Welcome, all of the new listeners! In fact since we talked about it why don't we say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Coppah disc ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end the one the only Mr John C

1:53:21 Yeah, in the morning to you Mr. Anne Currie, in the morning ship Seaboost with the graphite in the air, subs in the water and the dames and knights out there! In the morning to the trolls at the troll room let me count you for a second hold on... Well that is what I call an... We got 1655 it seems we went down yeah we should have 18 we should have 18 at least yes okay well there you go okay probably this stable coin discussion

1:53:58 No, I don't know. No, no, it's not. No, we go like to talk about those that are that complicated? No because one hour and nine minutes ago was the peak at 1655 so that was well... Okay then we still have a problem with people stop coming because they had a problem a couple weeks ago and they still haven't figured out that it has been fixed. Yeah but people there are people have emailed me and said, hey it's working again. So we'll have to build that back up one at a time you know what? You should when you grow your brand on X you should let people know I'll start bitching about this when i grow my brand but only but only when you grow your brand not before

1:54:42 So yes, many of them are listening at trollroom.io or they may be on one of those modern podcast apps which I highlighted at the Podcast Movement. I would have expected all of you were using them by now but there were a lot of ooh and ahh... When I told them that when you go live with your podcasts your podcasts app will alert your audience so you can grow your brand Ah, ooh! Grow your show. Ooh wow that's great and of course through the magic of Podping technology when we release the show since you didn't have time or couldn't listen live within 90 seconds you'll be notified of that and you can get those at podcastapps.com We are also Value for Value another topic much discussed

1:55:29 Which is kind of a simple concept really. It's like we don't want to be interrupted by ads, we don't want to kow-tow to the podcast industrial complex... By the way, the CPMs for those ads? What do you think the CPM is for an ad that's inserted in a... Dollar? Not quite that bad about $3.50. Yeah. 3.50! I mean and it can only go down It's not going to go up. No, no, no. Now there is a higher CPM which is cost per thousand for those who are interested if you read an ad and host red ad. Host Red Ad where they give you five bucks? Where I would say... now that can be it they say they say up to about 20 but after commissions from everybody probably you're looking at 13 to the show And it will go like John Phoebe is looking so great

1:56:25 Really? Why, you think? Well I started feeding her this new food. Tell me more! It's called Farmer's Dog. And people would immediately rush and say wow Adams dog is looking good i gotta get me some of that...and that's how it works but instead of being total shills we just ask you to support the show Directly. So all we have is processing fees, no middleman here besides the obvious processing fees. The thing is even when you have the middlemen there's pro...you still have to get processing fees! But if you send a check which we gladly accept and there's a very this 15 cents per check or if you send cash like Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch there's zero processing fees.

1:57:15 Actually, there is a cash fee now. No! What? They charge you to deposit money into the bank?! Yeah after a certain amount same thing with checks but there's a certain amount of checks I think it was like 100 or couple hundred checks you can do for free which is really cheap It's free but then after a certain amount and that goes at the 15 cents. No... per what? Per dollar? No, it's 15 cents per whatever. It doesn't... no, it's a flat fee per check so if you send in $1,000 and a check it's 15 cents. If you send in $5 and a check, it's 15 cents if you send the dollar and a check is 15 cents I got unlike you know these systems out there from everything from Visa MasterCard everything is a percentage of the total which is not quite as good a deal right be honest about but yes at some point I don't know what to cut off his I've never asked by now I do notice that cash acceptance fee I think again

1:58:16 You get after gets to a few thousand bucks, they start charging you. Hey you know what's gonna revolutionize this? Stablecoins! That's right I think... Probably not There is still going be a fee. No! Do you think the banks are gonna let anything like that slide without fees? Dreamworld It'll have to be pretty low but there will be no middle man How low can it go 15 cents? It'll be even lower Yeah They're probably hurting themselves at fifteen cents Maybe. I'm surprised it's that cheap. I think Stripe, that we have on the website already accepts stablecoin. I'd love to see the first person donate to the show with USDC because that's what they accept on Stripe What is USDC? US Digital Currency? No, that's the Circle stable coin you have USDT which is Tether and of course you'll have USDX which will be X and USDAF which will be Facebook

1:59:17 Yeah, the USDC is already accepted. So I was looking at the news...I was going to say trades but it wasn't in the trades it was in the news financial news that the Zelle thing has fallen apart Oh yeah! The banks hate it for a couple of reasons. Well, the bank that we deal with, the two of us refuse to take it even though it has gone through. Yeah because it's basically a wire transfer through an intermediary but yeah but the banks don't like it because there's no takesies-backsies They can't take it back. And if so, what happens if someone gets a hold of your Zelle and they just empty out your bank account? Then you have a very unhappy broke customer and there's no way to get the money back that's...and it's also cutting into their business. Well that's the main reason they don't care less about your poor problem Yeah well there are lot of things all these like Venmo

2:00:16 So Venmo uses Plaid middleware and what Plaid does is it in essence you give it your password. I mean, you don't actually give me your password but you give it permission to be in your account to credit and debit money and look at your stuff Yeah, that's the bad part. And what the banks have found is that Plaid logs into accounts not just when they're paying or receiving money but like 10 times a day! Well let me see what he's doing now? What is he spending money on here? Oh look at that well maybe we can sell this to an advertiser it's sick it's gross really it's gross

2:00:58 And they do that with everything. We don't use those systems, we use the basic old-fashioned system the bank itself cash PayPal and Stripe and now Strike and that's it. We don't have Square or we don't get a lot of different ones but they're all out there but you know people say why did you do this once you do that how much more can we do? Yeah. Don't send blankets or water, just send your cash anyway for a check or check. It's great. Um, so you can send time talent treasure and you can actually send time and talent by the way, the check goes to box three 39 El Cerrito California nine four five three Oh there you go. And it should be addressed in the no agenda show or me or both? Yes.

2:01:51 So we love it when people do things for the show, boots on the ground organizing meetups helping out with servers other types of things. That's all very valuable to the show because it saves us direct money of having to pay for those services and even though we at this point could probably do our own art I don't think we want to Because, you know we're just everyone else is doing prompting on the AIs to create artwork for us. Now obviously you need to have a good idea needs to be fun We like it to be funny if possible and that's not something artificial intelligence can do so Your creativeness is still highly appreciated blue acorn did the artwork for episode 1791 we titled thought bolt muncher which is a slur these diet these days for the four robots and AI systems and

2:02:42 And it was alright. I mean, if you had listened to the show then you got it and liked it Had a boomer counting out resistors on the counter, which I guess is me since I told the story. And there's a robot next to it whose name is Clankor and it was the best one we had. There were some others... But you like Screw Worm? I like Screw Worm! You thought it hit the gross factor and therefore was vetoed by you Yes, indeed. Yeah I have a gross factor thing you we both like body double but that was screwed up by comic strip blogger who didn't put the effort in yeah if comics for blogger had used AI correctly AI would have said oh your grammar is incorrect

2:03:33 Because we wanted that art, we thought it was great. He could have X'd that out in Photoshop and put in the right grammar? But you're right he was lazy! It says your body double but instead of said your a body double And he didn't do that and was also not aligned properly. So it was lazy, you're right. It could have been shifted a little to the right. He would have had...he would've won! He would've had a winner That was our first choice because it's funny Yeah yeah because yeah there was very no agenda very funny and ummm..it was lazy what can ya say? By the way on this screw worm thing I got a note from a rancher

2:04:16 Brancher Austin is his name. And he said this whole screw worm thing is a psyop, the psyop to raise the price of beef I think he's probably right about that. Could be! Yeah, the narrative that the Mexican herd is over... But you didn't get the whole story? Not from me and my conspiracy guys but your buddy? Yes You're the famous Texas Slim or is he being psyoped? Is that what you're making a claim? No no I'm saying that as we were eating beef and drinking wine

2:04:53 I may have misunderstood where he said, oh that whole new world screwworm is a... That's real. And I might have misunderstood his irony that the narrative- Well that's not the way you presented it. No! It was possibly ironic. No no that is not the way I presented it but now this rancher says hey this is a psyop I'm like, ah maybe a misunderstood what Slim was saying. So i'm going to call him about that and then get the full detail. Didn't Texas Slim also say that the herd count was down and they were having issues? Yes! That is true. Well that would increase the price of beef for sure. Well yes but thats mainly because we just have commodity cowboys and people don't care anymore about ranching and all of the young people are selling their parents' ranch

2:05:47 Because they don't want to pay the inheritance tax. And it's a pain in the butt and ranching is hard, and they'd rather learn to code. Code! Code that's the bottom line So other pieces of art yes I like the screw worm that was a no Was there anything else? I don't think there was anything else that we really you kind of like your new AI girlfriend, but it was messy by Ness works a lot of Messiness yeah It was messy was messy and they also liked Putin red carpet But I'm like this is another card like Putin read card because I thought that I thought the cartooning of Putin the current caricature ish nature of the Putin character walking in the red carpet was really pretty good. It was but

2:06:34 No, you vetoed that. I did. Anyway that's pretty much the discussion we have every single show day after we're done after do the credits after we yeah it's good we do the credits and then we select the art and then we do the title that's how it goes and you just heard the whole conversation in condensed form because we really argue and throw stuff at each other. Yeah so now we'd like to thank uh the financial the treasure part of Time, Talents and Treasure. People who supported us financially and we had a new promotion which you launched without even talking to me about it

2:07:11 I know, I've done this a couple times now. We had discussed it... You have to do that. Why don't you explain exactly what the promotion is? Well we did talk about it by the way. It wasn't like you were completely in the dark because we had discussed on the show the idea of naming giving a no agenda secretary generalship out as a kind of token title, and you can be secretary. And we talked about it after the show once too about how to do it and if it should be state by state, and I decided that's probably not a good idea because that limits people that are in the populous states. So I just said it should be open-ended. You make yourself Secretary General of anything including the United Nations under the no agenda policy

2:08:02 banner, yeah. And so the offering is you can become secretary general and an executive producer for $500 dollars You get to pick where...secretary general of what? And I suggested in the newsletter Botswana, you can be secretary general of the United States. You could be secretary general of Cincinnati when it doesn't matter. How about The Hill Country? Secretary General The Hill Country! You could be secretary general of The Hill Country and it's just a puts that title where it belongs. And now does this come with a certificate of authenticity? Oh, the certificate yes Jay is trying to outdo herself so the certificates will probably go out at the end of the month

2:08:48 Because she now wants to do the thing that design is gonna be slightly different than our other stuff It's always everyone's been somewhat different, but this is gonna have a big giant wax seal at the bottom That has the ITM signet ring But bigger. She's ordered a giant version. Did she order a giant ring to make it? No, just that it's a stamp. Ah cool! It's a giant stamp I had to get the art from Paul Couture uh... To her so she could get this thing produced and she found again

2:09:26 First of all I got into an argument, nah I don't think it's not a good idea. For one thing who is going to make these things? And every time we have a discussion with her where I tell her it can't be done within five minutes she has the vendor I appreciate Jay for this. She's on her phone and she goes, okay can't be done let me think...I found a guy who will do it for you! Now does she preface it by or does she end up with Boomer? Oh no she doesn't do that. No she knows better So yes I'm looking at the troll room Secretary General of Boobs Yes definitely a possibility Secretary General of Boobs

2:10:05 That would be a gem, yeah. Secretary General of Uranus? Yes all of these are completely valid. They're all possibilities. They're all valid so Steve Miller came in from Aledo Texas Steve loves us and he supported us with $2500 not stablecoins actual digital money and here's what he said We love your fantastic insights and commentary. Is it possible there's still uncertainty whether your 3x3 intro was or wasn't on the dating game? If so, season of reveal! Herb Albert Spanish Flea on the dating game Yes we did deconstruct that you must have missed that Over the last couple weeks on my drive home from work I found each of you making me laugh out loud With the pathetic donation levels recently I felt like I might be running out of time to make things right in our relationship

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2:11:51 Eustace, Florida? Eustace huh. Sounds right Came in with a thousand Whoa In the morning boys First time donation I've been listening since the election and thought it was time to pony up My name will be Sir Peter Jockey of the Mountains Dinner is beef Wellington. He's just knighting himself Yes, he wants beef Wellington and a shaken dirty martini. Ooh Do you want all of that shoot out by one of our famous more famous? executive producers Executive or associate executive yeah that guy Yeah Our fate the most one of our most famous and so he says it I

2:12:39 He was aghast and so is his wife as a matter of fact. Oh that I had never heard of an espresso martini And that was rather odd I don't understand why anyone... Why would I have heard of such a horrible drink? Well, if you get out of the house. I'm from San Francisco Bay Area where the drink you have, can't even remember the name of it which is this coffee booze drink that we have in San Francisco. It's called The Coffee Booz Drink. The Coffee Booze Drink Also known as an Irish coffee maybe An Irish coffee This was invented at a place in San Francisco You can go there and get them

2:13:18 And so that's to me was, you know. And then this is espresso martini? It's been around for a long time. Ask the animal though! Now ask Ara, hold on a second... Ask her when it came out and when it was invented and where it has been popular. The Espresso Martini Oh, the espresso martini. It's such a fun drink vodka coffee liqueur fresh espresso and a touch of simple syrup Shaken until frothy and served with those iconic coffee beans on top here comes it's like I interrupted her Fun fact it was invented in the 1980s In London by a bartender for a model who wanted something to wake her up and mess her up

2:14:06 Fun fact. Fun fact? You haven't been out of the house since the 80s, it makes total sense! Onward. Onward... Skylar Firestone. Ah that sounds like a DJ name. Skylar Firestone in the morning with everybody Z100's That's in Texas Liberty Hill 51538 I see no note from Skylar so I see nothing So Skyler will get a double up karma you've got You can do the next one cuz I have a note for this one after that yes sir Ahab from Mandeville, Mandeville Louisiana 500 and he's in on the program. Hey guys it's Sir Ahab Knight of the Seven Seas has been a spell! I'd like to be Secretary General of the Pacific Fleet. Thanks for all you do. That's a good one alright

2:15:05 we're gonna have to figure out some way to announce these things properly. We do have the people mentioned, but we probably don't have their titles with it that's gonna not try to do that but now you have Justine Palmer in Bozeman Montana came with 333-43 and this is interesting because I first put her name down this is like I have the note and I sent over to Jay I first thought it was Justin then I went back and looked And I said, wait a minute. This is not a signature or handwriting of any known male and I look at, oh Justine that makes sense Wow you're such as sleuth Well the thing is it brought me to this idea that women are more into precision than men

2:16:01 Okay, I just I'm trying to develop this into some sort of thinking because during World War two when the men were all Fighting they factories in the United States were all people by women a lot of them and a lot of them became precision engineers and Precision mechanics and all this sort of thing And it just fascinates me now that I start to think about it because nobody dude cuz cuz though women are are not credited with this capability. I don't know, I found it interesting and the note triggered this but here's her note. Donation note thank you for the best podcast in the universe and then she got a birthday shout out for Chris Illuminati Jensen separate explanation no need to read but I'm gonna read it anyway because its about football. Previously had mentioned he did not receive any clothing

2:16:54 commemorating the most recent college football championship winners from the FBS or FCSD to etc. She knows what all that means although you have now received Ohio State representation and people promised Florida I never got anything, I even closed some Montana State University Bobcats apparel Which is a nice piece, by the way. After a 15-0 season unfortunately the Bobcats fell short of the 2024 FCS National Championship game but I couldn't pass on the opportunity to send some D1 AAA FCS love your direction! There you go. Nice By the way, I concur on precision. I know many female pilots helicopter pilots especially who are extremely good and that's precision work

2:17:47 Yeah, I just think it's there. It just dawned on me looking at her handwriting that it was It's an underrated characteristic of women in general. Underrated? That's right! Is Mimi still there, can you compliment her on her precision? No she crashed a car into a tree... NO! I'm kidding! Are you though?! She's an LA driver. Maybe that's the reason we mock female drivers because they're so good Because they're uh... That parallel parking. A little too precise for a male's taste. Cut in here, cut in here! Nooo! Not cutting in there! Come on cut it in there's a ton of raw you blew it

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2:20:03 And I would recommend it as a great place for vacation. It's extremely safe, super clean...it's a fascist state you have to know that. You can't spit gum out! You can't chew gum. I mean you can but really can't. You'd better swallow it It's a, but it's got great food. Terrific food that is pretty and great markets I would recommend highly recommend Singapore as a vacation retreat. Is there any can we get any garments there? Custom made garments? You know I never bought any clothes there. I don't think it's on the same league as Korea or Taiwan. Zaydog Brown III in Pukalani

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2:22:28 Nongorongoro, no. Nongorongoro, yes. Nightkirt of the Nongorongoro crater! If that doesn't roll off the tongue perhaps... Nightkirt of the Serengeti you guys pick I like to Nongorongoro because it'd be fun for me to try Let's keep it simple for the roundtable zebra schnitzel hippo hot links a pilsner or two and just one just one camel filter cigarette Love you guys, the producers and boobs says Kurt. Great note Kurt! Thank you. Camel made... uh... filtered? Yeah they kind of taste icky what I remember it tastes a bit like a palm oil James Green he's in Efland North Carolina

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2:24:17 But yeah, there's a sound. Alicia Roscoe has... I think she just doesn't sound like a professional broadcaster. Is it Aisha or is it Aisha? Aisha! Aisha. Yeah, Aisha. Okay, Aisha. Anyway, Suffer and Suck-A-Tash go Florida ounces. Suffer and Suck-A-Tash! Simon. Sam Trudell is in Green Bay, Wisconsin 218.92 ITM he says I just realized my 33rd birthday is on a show day time to donate thanks to Adam W in Milwaukee for hitting me in the mouth please deduce you've been de-douche and I didn't realize he asked this he says I request a Sharpton hubris

2:25:05 That's from Sam Trudell. I don't you know it's part of one of these medleys, so I hope I got it Let me say night is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back or whether we have More to go to build a movement of resistance now that's resist we much like I don't remember what? Where hubris is hubris let me see Am I, I like the guy did this so let me just try. Let me try this maybe this one. Thanks to you Ed! Is this crown hog day two? We are watching that was Attorney General Eric Holder's ABD about some Republicans at home on

2:25:58 I don't know which one it is. I'll have to look that one up, sorry but thank you very much Eli the Coffee Guy, 20821. There he is. Mamata coffee by the way. It's interesting how recent diplomatic efforts by America to broker peace have gone unnoticed by the M5M

2:26:43 It's not that interesting. It's what you expect whether as your by John and Armenia to Cambodia and Thailand did you see but the one thing it wasn't reported you see the 5000 Campbell a Cambodian Buddhist monks have you seen this no I Yeah, a bunch of candidates like 5,000 of them or more came out in a giant group. They took a picture and said we nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize Really? Cambodian Buddhist monks! Yeah, 5000 of them Wow And nobody covered it I'm gonna look that up while you're reading this note Fox, I think covered it Well duh

2:27:29 Yeah, look up monks... Cambodian monks promote Trump for Nobel. You'll probably find it or maybe your buddy there in the office could do that. No I'm tired of her She'll know Anyway, Cambodia, Thailand or India Pakistan this cynic in me questions were these brief flare-ups of conflict manufactured with the purpose of allowing for a US brokered resolution? Seems unlikely we don't have that much power. Or is Trump trying to make peace profitable again? That seems likely. That would be nice

2:28:08 One thing is certain, tariffs are increasing the price of coffee imports. But at gigawattcoffeeroasters.com we are dedicated to great coffee at a great price and remember to use code ITM20 for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated Eli the Coffee Guy Well you were wrong! Wrong again it was not 5,000 monks it was 70,000 monks 70,000 monks just broke their vows of silence to nominate Trump for the Nobel. Dear Mr President Trump we are standing here today with hearts full of appreciation Today seventy thousand Cambodian Buddhist monks

2:28:53 I wholeheartedly supportive of our Cambodian Prime Minister, Hon Manet to nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize. Please accept Mr President." 70 thousand monks can't be wrong. So you got seventy thousand monks doing this? Well there weren't seventy thousand there but that gives me some... No but there was a lot there! There was it was a lot of monks Lot of monks are all dressed in red and just got no orange what orange? Oh is the orange? I remember they might have been Hari Krishna. So yeah, oh no man, whatever the case are all bald Yeah They were both for sure and they

2:29:34 It was weird enough as news and just a visual, it was scruple-y enough. Yeah it was good visual definitely You'd think somebody in the mainstream media of New York anybody would have taken a picture and run it on their paper No! Nobody except Jesse Watters even mentioned it That's pathetic certificate, we've got a couple more associate executive producers here. Certificate $200 and 42 cents he says for some reason I haven't been able to get into politics including no agenda since the election not that the results aren't what i wanted burnout I suppose but with this donation I think I will wade back in

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2:32:53 Two months ago, I don't know if you caught this news or maybe Mimi heard about it and told you? The first hybrid electric ferry is about to rejoin the fleet. After nearly two years out of the water, the Ferry Wenatchee is undergoing sea trials. Vigor Marine says the historic conversion is complete They swapped two diesel generators out for batteries and installed a new propulsion system. The Wenatchee will rejoin the Seattle-Bainbridge run and welcome back passengers once sea trials are complete." Alright, so we've got a battery powered ferry! What could possibly go wrong? Two months later... Washington State Ferries has pulled its newly renovated hybrid electric ferry from service last

2:33:34 the big renovation. We're told Wenatchee had a mechanical issue yesterday while docking at Coleman Dock. It's not clear exactly what that issue was or how long it'll be out of service. The Wenatchee was added to the Seattle-Bainbridge route in July after its conversion to hybrid electric power." Yeah, of course! What could possibly go wrong? Battery powered ferries... That's just not a good idea people You put up especially those explosive batteries and uh.. In the water Sea water environment. There is a smart move. Yeah why if... Such a bad idea You know, there was a Peter Thiel. We talked about him earlier co-founder from the PayPal mafia and of course funder of killing machines like Palantir which although we have a lot of testimony to the contrary people believe that Palantir runs the world and is tracking your every move

2:34:32 They certainly have been successful at some government contracts and very unsuccessful at targeting terrorists in Palestine because they killed a lot of the wrong people, but that doesn't matter. Because Peter Thiel is a force to be reckoned with and The New York Times interviewed him about a month ago and I paid no attention to it. I saw it come by my feed, but the guy is so annoying to listen to because he's like Sam Altman. Yeah, it seems that the entire PayPal mafia talks like Musk is the same way

2:35:11 But Altman wasn't part of the PayPal mafia was he? No I know but this seems like the PayPal Mafia all talks that way. I think it's a Silicon Valley tech bro thing just to sound interesting like, I'm deep in thought about... And he is a transhumanist as you will hear in a moment. He's trans?! Well, he's gay and you remember his boyfriend fell off the balcony and died in Miami a year or so ago? I don't remember that. Yeah it was kind of a bad vibe. Fell off the balcony but the New York Times guy sits down with him and starts asking him about transhumanism approaches it from a very innocuous way really about do you think the human race should survive or do you think your machine should run everything

2:36:09 And it took an unexpected turn. You would prefer the human race to endure, right? Uh... you're hesitating. Well I and i should mention uh I cut out a lot of the five second pauses. You would prefer the human but there are two of us both like to brag about our editing skills. It doesn't take a lot of skill because look at the way form is obvious. No it doesn't take a lot of skill to say oh look at all this white space! Just just cut it out. You would prefer the human race to endure right You're hesitating. Yes? I don't know, I would... This is a long hesitation! There's so many questions implicit in this Should the human race survive? Yes But but uh i also would um I also would like us to radically solve these problems and and so you know it's always-I don't know

2:37:05 You know, yeah transhumanism is this you know the ideal was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of, let's say the trans people in the sexual context or I don't know transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses. And a transexual is someone where you change your penis into vagina and we can then debate how well those surgeries work but we want more transformation. You should have debated that, how well do those surgeries work Peter? Where you change your penis into a vagina and we can then debate how well those surgeries work but we want more transformation than that it's the critique is not that it's weird and unnatural its man it's so pathetically little and okay when we want more than cross-dressing or changing our sex organs we want you to be able to change your heart

2:38:06 and change your mind, and change your whole body. And then Orthodox Christianity by the way... The critique Orthodox Christianity has of this is these things don't go far enough! Like that transhumanism is just changing your body but you also need to transform your soul You need to transform your whole self What? I must alert Pastor Jimmy he's not going far enough We need to transfer our transform our bodies. It's it's Christianity You can imagine this got my attention and let's dive in, shall we? I generally agree with your... What?! ...what i think is your beliefs. He agrees!? With his beliefs yes oh yeah this is the New York Times That religion should be a friend to science and ideas of scientific progress I think any idea of divine providence has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and achieved

2:39:07 done things that would have been unimaginable. Okay, stop right there! This is great! First of all interviewers should not be agreeing well not it not agreeing or disagreeing but this guy's gone beyond agreeing and disagree he is now expressing himself yes he said he's from the yacky yak we came to listen to Peter Thiel and his what he thinks not with some what some reporter from The New York Times whose who's, you know made a mess of his life where he wouldn't be there for at his age. Yeah We don't care what you think. Well this guy I think is a member of the sparkle clergy because he's like oh yeah no, I agree Yeah anything that we do was God's plan. Providence has to encompass the fact that we have progressed and achieved and done things it would have been unimaginable To our ancestors but it still also seems like

2:40:06 Yeah, the promise of Christianity in the end is you get you get the perfected body and the perfected soul. Oh shut up He's laying out his Bible smack man Let him let him go what you hear Teal say is better This guy's just there The promise of Christianity in the end is you get you get the perfected body and the perfected soul through God's grace And the person who tries to do it on their own with a bunch of machines is likely to end up as a dystopian character. In hell! Well, uh... it's... Let- let's articulate this- And you're gonna have a heretical form of Christianity that says something else

2:40:49 I don't know, I think the word nature does not occur once in the Old Testament. Okay... The word nature does not appear once in the Old Testament? Okay, well I guess you could call it creation, heavens and earth, world—if you don't want to call it nature okay then That's that's a point of discussion, but I think there's a New Testament where it appears quite a bit Especially the term against nature. I think the word nature does not occur once in the Old Testament and so you know if you you know And there is you know? There is a word in which a sense in which

2:41:30 The way I understand the Judeo-Christian inspiration is it is about transcending nature. It's almost done! The way I understand the Judeo-Christian inspiration is it is about transcending nature. It's about overcoming things and you know, the closest thing you can say to nature is that people are fallen and that The natural thing in a Christian sense is that you're messed up and that's true. But, you know there are some ways with God's help you are supposed to transcend that and overcome that Well I now link arms with the Peter Thiel haters of the world This guy is a ghoul All his government contracts should be ripped off What an idiot

2:42:31 And the New York Times guy is not much better. No, the New York Times guy's worse! Yeah it's just unbelievable oh yeah uh yeah sure okay yeah well nice interpretation Peter Thiel Well that was a trip down nowhere Well I thought it was quite interesting personally Let's go to what Tulsi Gabbard is up to. Yeah, she's doing a couple of things isn't she? I think that she has to be the intelligence communities at least the bad actors in the intelligence community They gotta be worried worst nightmare. Yes, director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard announces today that she's cutting her department by more than 40% to quote root out deep state actors She says the move will make the department more efficient and save taxpayers north of 700 million dollars per year The news comes just after she wrote security clearances for 37 intelligence officials accusing them a politically weaponizing intelligence

2:43:29 In today's Washington Correspondent, Jack Bradley has more. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard strips security clearances from 37 current and former intelligence officials she also terminated any government employment or contracts for them Gabbard said that she's doing this at the direction of President Trump, and she didn't disclose any specific acts that led to the losses of clearance for each person but said more generally they were part of a political weaponization of the intelligence community leaking classified information and bypassing normal procedures particularly in creating a false intelligence report that accused Trump of colluding with Russia in the 2016 election.

2:44:10 They were not happy with the outcome of that election. And so they created this politicized, weaponized piece of fake intelligence that they aided and abetted in this action, this seditious conspiracy that undermined our democracy, undermined our republic. These are bad actors that have to be rooted out." Yeah I think this is pretty good what she's doing here And I think that's why she was hired, was to do this stuff. I think so! She has a... A bad attitude. She's not going to put up with anything. Well, she is not like a bureaucrat that's in it just for the you know so she can pick up a retirement check income No! I'm kind of liking this Tulsi business. And they're still not being picked by the mainstream You know they still keep bringing out people like Susan Rice and they bring out these other people and people i know

2:45:10 around here, the Democrats around here that I know that oh yeah well it's a known fact that Russia colluded with Trump. I don't care what they say. Yeah, that's California In announcing the move on X, she said that a security clearance is a privilege not a right. Those who betray their oath to the Constitution and put their own interests before the interests of the American people have broken this sacred trust they promised to uphold those who lost their security clearances can no longer access classified facilities and information Back in July, Gabbard said that the intelligence community did assess that in the months leading up to the November 2016 election Russia was trying to interfere in the US presidential election by sowing discord and chaos. But repeatedly stating that Russia didn't appear to have a preference for either candidate and viewed both equally bad for Russia's interest she then said that in December 2016 then-President Obama called for another intelligence assessment

2:46:11 contradicted and claimed that Russia did interfere in Trump's favor. There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false But Gabbard said that they used substandard intelligence, bypassing normal procedures and use the Steele dossier as a source for the newer assessment. The Steele dossier is now widely considered to have been discredited. Weren't they supposed to start the depositions on the 19th? I mean, do we even know if that started at all? You know nothing's going to come of any of this except people who lost their security clearances are probably gonna have to go find work someplace

2:46:57 else, you know who knows where. And that's going to be all that is going to happen. The Republicans are not vindictive enough to actually take action. No they're not and by the way the CIA... an old report has resurfaced I put it in the show notes 1957, a 200 page report proposing that American special forces should secretly infiltrate Ukraine spark uprising and destabilize the Soviet Union from within. This has been a plan by the CIA and Western... it was actually they did it with the Brits

2:47:43 And there was an update to this plan in 2014. I mean, come on! It's so obvious the outrage should be that we started all this nonsense in Ukraine We don't... The reason they just that's another thing that mainstream media will not do which is no give us the straight scoop on this stuff because they just can't They're working and are working for the people Unlike us We work for you. We work for the people we do, we work for the people. NPR did have a I think I have 56 seconds NPR had this story President Trump's chief spy Tulsi Gabbard says she'll cut her agency's budget by over 40% by the end of 2025 Is she the chief spy? is that really

2:48:34 is technically secondly NPR's Jenna McLaughlin spy you know that's the thing she's not a spy in there in this sense of us what a spy is but it sounds she is a bureaucrat yes that heads up all this all the spies and analysts chief spy spy. NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports, career intelligence officials say their mission is to speak truth to power however the former democratic lawmaker turned head of the office at the director of national intelligence wait a minute Since when is that their job? Let's listen to that again. 2025, NPR's Jenna McLaughlin reports... Career intelligence officials say their mission is to speak truth to power That's bullcrap! That's not their mission—to speak truth to power

2:49:21 This is subvert other powers and other nations and other leaders. It's not their mission However, the former Democratic lawmaker turned head of the office at the Director of National Intelligence or ODNI has expressed her commitment to aligning the agency with President Trump's policy goals The ODNI was created after the September 11th terrorist attacks To foster intelligence sharing between US government agencies Gabbard says she'll slash the agency's costs by over 40% by the end of September, though she didn't identify specific cuts. In a statement, the Democratic vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee Mark Warner of Virginia says he would welcome the chance to review Gabbard's plans but expresses concern arguing Gabbard has a track record of politicizing intelligence and you're listening to NPR what?

2:50:08 What track record? Let's listen again. Welcome the chance to review Gabbard plans that expresses concern arguing Gabbard has a track record of politicizing intelligence and you're listening to NPR A track record I tell ya! What track records she just got this job recently she's been in office six months, a track record assumes you've been doing something for years and years. Track Record baby! When using it in political sense when you say track record... Track Record? I'm telling ya! Track Record Well NPR, just since you mentioned this bull crap about the truth department. Play this little clip. This is an off-the-wall clip. This is the science clip I have here... where's it?

2:50:53 Define, it says define. This is NPR define... Now you've got to know if you can define science You can ask the robot there that your buddy I'm not going to To define science but listen to the definition of science from NPR Science mind you Science! Science! Science! Science! Shortwave thinks of science as an invisible force showing up in your everyday life Wait start it over Okay here we go Shortwave thinks of science as an invisible force showing up in your everyday life, powering the food you eat. The medicine you use the tech in your pocket. Science is approachable because it's already part of your life. Come explore these connections on the shortwave podcast from NPR. So what exactly did they just say? They said science is a force... A force

2:51:50 some sort of force that... Some sort of force. I'm gonna read a definition to science, it's like the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical natural world through observation experimentation and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained that's it! That's what science is not a force. It's a force to be reckoned with! Shut up already! It's science! This way you believe the science, believe the force Luke. Believe the force! Well let's talk about some science for a moment with Dr. Selene Gounder. Turning to your health there is news tonight that the maker of Ozempic is cutting the price nearly in half for some patients. The company had already cut the price of Wigovi, similar medication approved for weight loss. Dr. Selene Gounder is here with more on the emerging price competition over these drugs So what is driving this price war doctor?

2:52:49 The race is on. Novo Nordisk has dominated early on with their drugs Ozempic and Wigovi, but now Eli Lilly with their drugs Monjaro and ZepBound are catching up fast thanks to lower prices and strong supply so it's really about Novo Nordisk trying to regain take back market share specifically Nova who said this is targeted at patients with type 2 diabetes who do not have insurance now Now, I don't know how many patients don't have insurance who can afford $500 a month but that is the target audience. Yeah well we know that it's not about that. We know you're being paid to shill for weight loss drugs... So are they competing just on price or is there any other thing they compete on? Well they also compete on effectiveness so there was head-to-head study published in The New England Journal of Medicine

2:53:38 Looking at these two companies' drugs head-to-head, over 72 weeks people on the Lily drug lost about 20% of their body weight compared to 14% body weight loss with those on the Novo Nordisk drug. So there is a difference there and the degree of improvement in blood pressure diabetes cholesterol was commensurate with proportional to the amount of weight loss And we have a new side effect of these drugs. Yeah, I saw this! A new side effect known as ozempic vulva Oh, I don't know about that...I thought you know they were obviously the positive things going on Well, uh, i'll tell you about this the ozempic vulva is sagging caused by loose labia Loose skin in the vaginal area wrinkles or some combination of all three if you're lucky

2:54:32 Dude, you had positive news from them? You had positive... Yeah apparently it's a cure for baldness. Oh well good news ladies you won't go bald bad news! Bad news you'll be dragging on the ground we have an update of course We need to discredit our Health and Human Services Secretary and everybody that he's hired. Back-to-school season often means making sure your child is up to date on vaccinations That's what it means, just remember back-to-school means get your shots! Back-to-school suddenly means get vaxxed It used to mean you know like get your books

2:55:17 put covers on your books, you gotta get your eraser. No no not anymore. Get backpacks! Back to school means getting vaccs. And why are we going back to school so soon? But that's another topic. In the past, parents could rely on a single authoritative schedule from the CDC. No longer! But this year the American Academy of Pediatrics has released its own vaccine schedule and it's different from the government's CBS News medical contributor Dr. Selene Gounder is here to explain. Gounder. Dr. Gounder explain what is this? What was his laugh tale?

2:55:57 Oh, did you hear the laugh? Yeah. Let's listen again. CBS News medical contributor Dr. Selene Gounder is here to explain... Dr. Gounder- Oh yeah here it is. There it is! He's laugh telling because, you know he was like this stupid RFK Jr. I mean we can't trust them anymore so what are we gonna do? Dr. Counter explain what is this discrepancy here Yeah for the first time in decades pediatricians are putting out their own schedule because they no longer trust the government Stop! Stop the clip! Stopping the clip Because i'm going to predict the direction of this clip

2:56:39 Surely you jest Mr. Dvorak! She's gonna go on with her assertion and then Dickerson who is an old pro knows what he's doing as a top journalist is going to say well isn't it true that the pediatricians have a conflict of interest because they're paid direct money, direct cash money to make sure all their patients are have all these vaccinations and then it's a big huge bonus in part of their income. It's very important to them so there conflicted. Don't you agree with that, Dr Gounder? Let's see if you're right! Yeah so for the first time in decades pediatricians are putting out their own schedule because they no longer trust the government's process So the CDC's vaccine advisory committee folks may remember was recently overhauled

2:57:25 All members were dismissed and almost everyone who replaced those experts is somebody who has spread disinformation about vaccines or has expressed vaccine skepticism. This has never happened under a previous Democratic or Republican administration that the process would be politicized in this way, and so the American Academy of Pediatric saying, look we want to stick to the science. We don't want a politicized process." So now all of a sudden we have to stick to that science but from the very same people who have given your kids Ritalin who have told your kids that you know they've told you well it's better to have a daughter whose alive or son who is alive than a daughter who's dead! The very same people

2:58:11 The Academy. Oh, I want to thank the academy. Oh but what's a parent to do doctor? So if i'm a parent and I want to know what to do... Wait stop! What he didn't ask the question that I surmised?! No! Funny enough. He didn't ask a probing question, a valid question that would actually make some sense and educate the public that they're trying to serve? Or are you... This is not serving the public. This is serving the advertiser So if I'm a parent and I want to know what to do fine You guys squabble What's-what does a parent have to do Don't do your own research Yes

2:58:48 So the main area where the American Academy of Pediatrics diverges so far with the CDC, the CDC is no longer recommending routine COVID vaccinations for healthy children. Pediatricians including the American Academy of Pediatrics strongly disagree with that and they are saying that all infants between the ages of six months and two years should be receiving a COVID vaccine. The bottom line is that the risk in infants is quite high, and their first encounter with COVID should be with the vaccine and not the virus. Bottom line is that the risk in infants is quite high and their first encounter with COVID should be with a vaccine and not the virus. Their first encounter with COVID should be with the vaccine? What, does the vaccine give you COVID? Yeah well duh! But more importantly why doesn't he ask her to clarify when she says

2:59:54 which we know not to be true, that the risk for infants and kids is high for catching COVID. Why doesn't he say — John Dickerson say — what exactly is the risk? How many times are you going to pose this question pretending that you don't know this as a bought-and-paid-for advertisement? We know this! This is obvious. He's not a journalist. He is a pitchman and And they did this same segment, that was the evening news. They did it on The Morning Show. Now, this contradicts the Centers for Disease Control under Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., which does not recommend COVID shots for any healthy children. CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder is editor-at-large for Public Health at KFF Health News and she joins me now good morning. Good morning! All right so why is the American Academy of Pediatrics

3:00:54 made this recommendation. to bring their recommendations up-to-date and that review is what informs the American Academy of Pediatrics newest recommendations. And that affirms that the vaccines are safe and effective for children or infants really between ages... Is she talking about the fee schedule? Yes, it's safe and effective and profitable.

3:01:48 may not even know if they have immunocompromising or other underlying medical conditions that put them at risk. That's right, jab if they're under two, jab them up and the same script comes out again! Alright so parents are stuck in the middle because this guidance conflicts with the CDCs- What are you to do as a parent? What am I gonna do? Vaccinating- I'm so confused, you've confused me CBS people! Children against COVID so who should parents listen to? The science. I mean look, the American Academy of Pediatrics represents over 67 thousand pediatricians across the country these are the people who actually see these children every day and catch the checks unfortunately is a federal guidance has now been shaped by politics and ideology some people will try to confuse you Wow lady wow! Politics and ideology what's the ideology here? What's the ideology

3:02:41 This is... These people are not serving the public, you pointed it out. And they will say that high quality studies are flawed They will call for gold standard science which is in reality garbage science Woah! What? And they will say this about putting commercial interests ahead of public health when in fact Wow! Wat je zegt bent jezelf This is putting commercial interests ahead of public health. Yes, exactly what you're doing! And they will say that this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health when in fact... Wait wait stop stop stop stop What specifically I'm sure this guy will ask but what specifically are the commercial interests that she's talking about

3:03:30 that they're putting ahead of public health. Who is profiting from, what commercial interest is profiting from not giving a kid a COVID shot? If you listen to this she's saying that they are saying IE RFK Jr., the way understood it, RFK Jr. is saying you're putting commercial interests ahead of health And that would be twofold. One, the doctors who are getting compensated... No I thought she said that they're in an RFK position? Let's listen to her. They will call for gold standard science which is in reality garbage science and they will say this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health

3:04:15 They will say that this is about putting commercial interests ahead of public health. The commercial interests are the shot guys, yeah, and Celine Gounder with her advertisement for Big Pharma right here on CBS when in fact This is the first administration Republican or Democratic to have politicized vaccine recommendations in this way ever Politicize politicize what's the Paul? I don't get the politics part Well, she's politicizing it. This is all what you say by yourself and there was a third bit here to this morning segment that I could not resist clipping for us. The vaccine advisory committee recently limited use of a preservative called Thermasol? Yeah, it's Thimerosal you dork!

3:04:59 Thermosol. Thermostat? Thermosol? The vaccine advisory committee recently limited use of a preservative called thermosol and is now looking at other chemicals in vaccines why are these part of the vaccine what's their use So thimerosal is a form of mercury. Now people hear mercury and they think, oh that's dangerous. We're talking about a specific form of mercury ethylmercury which is not the dangerous form. The dangerous form is methylmercury with an M so MM. And routine childhood vaccines have actually been thimerosal free for years now so it's not really even an issue. Now what do you think she'll say next? What do you think she'll say next?

3:05:44 By the way, the methylmercury... I have some quibbles about that. Any mercury salt is bad. Please, quibble away! I want to hear ethylmercury versus methylmercury. Methylmercury is a bad actor but any mercury salt... Elemental mercury is not bad necessarily unless it can be metabolized in some way but generally can't but any salts, the salts are the things that the body can absorb and cause poisoning. And what is the thimerosal used for? It's used for preservatives. Preservatives, yes. Preservers but now wait for it! So big picture if you're gonna worry about methylmercury worry about broken thermometers and those skin lightening creams not about the vaccines Now aluminum is another one Kennedy has also been concerned about Aluminum nudges the immune system so that you get a longer lasting more robust immune response with fewer doses So that's a bonus and there's no evidence that its harmful No evidence!

3:06:45 Aluminum, do you think that's a good thing to have in your vaccines? No. I don't... and they use it as what she didn't say is an adjuvant Yeah she didn't use the term It kind of tickles your immune system you know to get you going yeah because it's toxic yes that's exactly why these people oh man oh man oh man well there's you can talk all year while you're blue-in-the face I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that! Oh yeah, that'd be fab! Well, even though we don't have their actual names then we hope to have them very soon and will gladly go back and proclaim them properly as Secretary Generals. We do have a couple of those coming up thanks the donors from today also we have our meetup schedule got a ton of birthdays we have John's tip-of-the day you've got a lot of birthdays but first we want to thank all of our treasure supporters $50 and above

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3:22:01 And then we'll... Do you have an ISO at all? I have two that are probably, if you have a lot you probably have a killer. Okay let's see what we have! I'm about to lose my mind! No okay no eject This is not a children's program! Wow he loved the voice yeah this is not My Little Pony I kind of like that one. You too. Authenticity and truth? A little, a little hollow but okay... These guys are completely natural! And here we go with this... Uh you know we- We get into it deep. ...and then the final one Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring

3:22:47 And that's what I got. So, I think we both...I'll keep it up here. No! We're just bumping mine to the next show. This is not My Little Pony! I kind of like that one. Yeah, we have to go with that one. Okay well you've got a lozenge and we're putting your ISOs in abeyance which means its time for John's tip of the day All right for everybody out there it should be a gardener if they're not there should have potted plants somewhere in them You should be a gardener or just learn how to code. So the tip of the day are terracotta watering spikes Hmm, you can just google it

3:23:41 terracotta watering spikes. They have them all over the place, they sell them there. It looks like a giant carrot and you fill them with water and they water the plant. You put a bottle of water in the top hole and it'll water plants without you having to attend to him in case you're on vacation or take a week off. If you go someplace for the weekend, you have a plant that needs watering this takes care of it is very good tip. How does it function? Well, it turns out that it leaks. There's all these different mechanisms for watering plants... So what you don't because most people get on Amazon and they'll buy some internet of things connected water hose thing? You don't want that though? Why do we not want that? Because what happens if the net goes down? What happens if you have your rotary boots? It's nonsense! Just have some simple device a terra cotta

3:24:39 T-E-R-R-A C-O-T-T-A, watering spike. There's a bunch of people that make them and the ones you want to look like a carrot and you can stick up... You soak them first then stick them in the ground and then stick a water bottle in the top filled with water and it'll drain as the soil gets dry It will leak out water very slowly and keep the plant from dropping dead. That is a very good tip I like that That is cool. That's an old-school analog, how long will it last? I mean how much water do you... How long will the water last from the bottle that you put into it? I don't know, I've never run out of water. You've never been out of the house for more than three hours! I don't go out of the house, I stay here. Alright everybody, you can find them all on Tip Of The Day down at John's Tip Of The Day! Creative lives for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam

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3:27:42 Play buttons, play buttons, play buttons... Well we know this is definitely part of the Russian playbook. Russian playbook, Russian playbook... And the Russian philosophy, the Russian playbook will not change. So I think that is the Russian playbook? It is part of the Russian playbook. The tactics look familiar like a page from Russia's playbook Because what he called Russia's playbook on murdering people Clearly Russia benefits most from this and it does fit the Russian playbook Russian playbook. Russia's playbook. But what Putin is doing in Ukraine, is actually straight out of a Russian military planners' playbook. Putin's playbook... When the Republican Party adopts Russia's authoritarian playbook

3:28:48 Distinguished guests, men and women of the finest military in the world. Most of all, Admiral Mullen, Deborah, Michael and I... Oh my gosh! She's a what? She's a what?!

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