Episode 1785 · Sunday, 27 July 2025

Mackerels

A massive US-EU trade deal coincides with Ghislaine Maxwell's secret DOJ meetings and a controversial new Postmaster General appointment that threatens the future of rural mail.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1785

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President Donald Trump and EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen finalized a sweeping trade agreement this week as the European Union demands China withdraw support for the Russian war in Ukraine. During a high-profile visit to Scotland to open a new golf course, Trump faced intense local protests while calling on European leaders to halt the immigration invasion and criticizing the impact of wind turbines on the Scottish landscape.

In Florida, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche held multi-day closed-door meetings with Ghislaine Maxwell, fueling speculation regarding a potential deal involving the Jeffrey Epstein files. Meanwhile, David Steiner, a former FedEx board member with significant stock holdings, has been appointed as the 77th Postmaster General, sparking a national debate over the privatization of the United States Postal Service. In Chicago, ComEd customers are seeing a surge in electricity bills as massive AI data centers and the Illinois Quantum and Microelectronics Park strain the local power grid. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman admitted to Theo Von that the mental health implications of AI companions remain a significant concern as ChatGPT launches a new unlicensed therapy tab.

Governor Ron DeSantis has established a remote migrant detention center in the Everglades dubbed Alligator Alcatraz, where detainees report harsh conditions and the use of mackerels as a primary currency. The episode captures the absurdity of modern media as Sir Mike Slayer of Taxes receives a knighthood and Dame Astrid reports on a generational divide in Tokyo where younger workers have never seen Pulp Fiction.


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CHAPTER 04 / 40 Discussion

NPR Coverage of Trump Scotland Trip, Jeffrey Epstein Questions

NPR's Scott Simon and other reporters covered Donald Trump's trip to Scotland, focusing on the cost to Scottish taxpayers and Trump's past association with Jeffrey Epstein. Trump denied being briefed on the Epstein files and suggested the media focus on other associates of the sex offender.

npr· scott simon· jeffrey epstein· ghislaine maxwell· scotland

11:19 First of all, there's the overview clip we can play or not play which is Trump and Scotland NPR which is just their general clip. It doesn't have the good stuff. We need an overview just for prosperity. President Trump is in Scotland this weekend visiting his gulf resorts and meeting with British and European leaders a major security operation is underway for his visit with officers around the UK brought in to support Scottish police But some locals are concerned about the scale and cost of the operation. NPR's Fadimeh Al-Qassab reports. President Trump's visit to his golf courses on opposite sides of the country has prompted a major police operation around Scotland, which is expected to cost Scottish taxpayers millions of dollars. Kerry Walsh from Glasgow says she is not sure it's worth it

12:08 So much is being spent on him being here and I don't know what the benefit of him being here is, if I'm honest. The Scottish Police Union says resources are stretched and it may take officers much longer to respond to other incidents over the weekend as a result. Protesters are planning what they're calling a festival of resistance to the President's visit Oh well that's what we heard! A festival of resistance? That's almost a show title They're playing into the stereotype of the Scots being cheap bastards. With what? Oh, they're worried about their price! Oh it's so expensive... I thought that was kind of a- Now we have- We might as well play this Scott uh, we have Scott Simon. How could i not be ready for that?! I don't know how is beyond me. I don't even know where here he is I need to- Suffer and suck attach! I'm scott

13:05 Simon. President Trump is- So this is from the weekend show Up First, but I have it down here as The First And the clip, there's three clips here which has a punchline. The first NPR Trump in Scotland hit piece. In Scotland the home country of his late mother President Trump will be playing golf promoting the golf resorts he owns there and meeting with British and European leaders but questions about other things have followed him there. Gaza at the Federal Reserve His dead former friend, the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Wow! And there are protests... Wow his dead former friend wow uh is that good?

13:51 That is good. His dead former friend, the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein And there are protesters! And Pierce Lauren Frayer is at a demonstration in Edinburgh joins us from there. Lauren thanks for being with us Thanks for having me Scott What kind of welcome is the president receiving in Scotland? Well I'm outside the US consulate in Edinburgh where several hundred people gathered today There are Scottish bagpipers one of them is holding a sign that says At least this bag of hot air serves a purpose There are Palestinian flags over the crowd. I also see a sign that says Scotland is already great, a reference to making anything great again. Protest organizers here call this a festival of resistance. Here's protester Niamh Convin-Smith. Why on earth is this convicted

14:36 fifth People here say they're motivated by Trump's climate policy. In fact, some climate protesters actually abseiled belayed themselves on ropes down off a bridge here last night Others say they're protesting US policy in the Middle East Many Scots are also angry at the cost to taxpayers of Trump's visit here and there are even a few Jeffrey Epstein posters in the mix here Yeah Some of the headlines were Convicted Felon Visits Scotland

15:17 Oh those British tabloids. It's unbelievable, this is the kind of hit piece it's not news at all it's just a hit piece and it gets worse but it doesn't get to the third clip which is their real killer showing that they're there just they can't even do a good report this is the first NPR Trump in Scotland too. A topic that the president might have hoped to leave on his side of the Atlantic I should think But it's one of the things that the traveling press asked him about moments after Air Force One touched down here last night. Trump denied ever being briefed that his name might be in the Epstein files, he said he has the power to pardon Epstein's ex Ghislaine Maxwell who is in prison but that he hasn't thought about doing that and he said if you're gonna talk about Epstein

15:57 Talk about all of his friends, talk about the hedge fund guys that were with him all the time. Don't talk about Trump." So Trump was dodging questions about Epstein here but it's not just the media talking about this Scottish protesters stealthily put up a sign outside one of Trump's golf resorts here this week that says quote twinned with Epsteen Island The president does have deep family ties to Scotland as we mentioned His late mother was born and raised there Do Scots like to consider him a native son? Yeah, I mean his mother was born on the Isle of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides Islands. A place that Trump wants on a visit called Serious Scotland and her first language was actually Gaelic. Trump has long owned golf resorts here so Scots have been well acquainted with him for a long time even before he became president. Trump says he loves Scotland but he's also

16:47 been critical of its environment policy for example he's called for the country to scrap what he calls windmills and renewable energy wind turbines. He considers them an eyesore, he's called on Scotland to double down on energy from fossil fuels instead. Oh man! Of course Scotland has a huge supply of fossil fuels off their coast yes It's called gas. I mean, it's a monster source and they do all this put up some windmills. It's pretty funny. And ruin the seascape! Ruin is so bad. So we go to this last clip which shows the kind of crappy reporting they're doing on NPR even though they run commercial after commercial...I have a couple of them on here about their needing more money This is the first Trump-Scott 3 WTF clip

17:37 And when you see if you can hear the slant, the way they slant a conclusion. Here's an Edinburgh bartender I spoke with Cam Page. The first thing that I saw going on about was the windmills and all that. It is a bit weird though. First thing he does when he comes here is just moaning in complaint He kind of just wants Trump to butt out his country's energy policy. He never said that He never said that. At the very end she makes up a conclusion the guy never said If the guy said he wants Trump to butt out of his energy policies, why doesn't... She has the guy on tape Why didn't she play that instead of saying it herself? Well she has to justify her reason for existence in Scotland on this trip On this gambit

18:28 So you got it goes to find yet. They said the bartender I saw I started clipping and I said, oh but did bartender will be down-to-earth joke around he says eyes You know he didn't say anything other than what do you expect from a bartender? And then she makes up a conclusion Oh It's unbelievable NPR we should defund them. Oh wait We already did yeah I since were on the on these guys the playing of Play a couple of these clips. This is the way the show starts, this clip is the first NPR Scott and Alicia.

19:08 He's teamed up, he only works on the weekends makes $400,000 plus a year. That really bothers you doesn't it? We only work two days a week we just don't make his kind of money but you know we have the same basic deal. No everybody at NPR makes 400 thousand a year and so they team him up with Alicia that would the black woman who just this creature And it must, I think they did it to torture him to be honest about it because he's so you know kind of... Old school broadcaster, but let's listen to this. Here is the classic opening. President Trump is in Scotland But it can't escape questions about Jeffrey Epstein You're making a very big thing over something that's not a big thing I'm Aisha Roscoe And I am Scott Simon and this up first from NPR News Trump and his allies call it Alligator Alcatraz The immigration detention center in Florida Everglades Now people being held there say guards are abusive That chicken sauce would have gone

CHAPTER 05 / 40 Discussion

NPR Weekend Edition Production Staff, Time Magazine Rankings

A review of the credits for NPR's "Up First" weekend show reveals a production staff of approximately 15 people for a half-hour program. The hosts contrast this large staff with their own independent production model and dismiss Time Magazine's top podcast rankings.

npr· scott simon· aisha roscoe· time magazine· podcasting

19:08 He's teamed up, he only works on the weekends makes $400,000 plus a year. That really bothers you doesn't it? We only work two days a week we just don't make his kind of money but you know we have the same basic deal. No everybody at NPR makes 400 thousand a year and so they team him up with Alicia that would the black woman who just this creature And it must, I think they did it to torture him to be honest about it because he's so you know kind of... Old school broadcaster, but let's listen to this. Here is the classic opening. President Trump is in Scotland But it can't escape questions about Jeffrey Epstein You're making a very big thing over something that's not a big thing I'm Aisha Roscoe And I am Scott Simon and this up first from NPR News Trump and his allies call it Alligator Alcatraz The immigration detention center in Florida Everglades Now people being held there say guards are abusive That chicken sauce would have gone

20:08 I was in the sunlight from 1 o'clock to like 7 o'clock in the evening. This is unhuman! What do officials say about these allegations? Also there's anxiety about where the economy is headed for sure but the stock market is hitting record highs, why? Stay with us we'll have news you need on this weekend Well edited. Oh man, they got some expensive editing going on over there. They make more money than typical radio. This is upfront NPR credits! And that's Up First for July 26, 2025 I'm Aisha Roscoe and I'm Scott Simon Today's podcast was produced by the discerning and astute... Wait why is he laughing?

21:01 Is he laughing because it was produced? He's laughing because he knows what they're paying. And I'm Scott Simon, todays podcast was produced by the discerning and astute Elena Turek with help from Fernando Naro who possesses a piercing mind Do not face off with them during a trivia night. They will wipe the floor with you! Our editors are the fantastic four, Susanna Capaluto, Pahlavi Gagoy, Jacob Benston and Melissa Gray Maybe they're the fab four it's hard to tell because they're certainly here there and everywhere Okay Scott tell us who else is fab?

21:38 I agree, that was a little creepy. David Greenberg our technical director and our engineering support comes from Zoe Vankenhoven Tom Marchito and Zach Coleman Andy Craig is our director which he does with the fluid effort of a master He makes it look easy but it's not Which is why we have bosses. Shannon Rhodes, our acting senior supervising editor She's not just acting she's commanding Evie Stone our executive producer very commanding Jim Kane our deputy managing editor He's... he's our very own Jean-Luc Picard When he says make it so So we do it Well that was very bizarre Did they have to fill time?

22:19 I guess so. It's only a half hour show and they couldn't fill it, but the people producing that show... how many was that? 15. Oh, I counted 14. No, 15. 15 plus the two of them! That's a lot of people! We have thousands of producers Yes, we do. We have... that's why we're better and dare I say that's why they call us the best podcast in the universe far better than the top 100 from Time! People are so mad about that? I can't believe people still care what Time Magazine says at all Is it even a magazine anymore just an online website Oh, that's a good question. I think it may just be It's a blog. It's a sub stack. I think it's a blog

CHAPTER 06 / 40 Discussion

Ghislaine Maxwell DOJ Meetings, Presidential Pardon Speculation

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche conducted multi-day, closed-door meetings with convicted sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell in a Florida prison. While Maxwell's attorneys claim she is cooperating freely without a quid pro quo, critics suggest the Trump administration may be seeking a deal to manage the political fallout of the Epstein files.

ghislaine maxwell· todd blanche· department of justice· jeffrey epstein· pam bondi

23:06 Yeah, well everyone you know a couple people got to go to Scotland so yeah that's it's good I guess. They...yeah. I was looking at what is Fox and Jackie Heinrich I think her name and it looks like a completely different person because when she's in the studio or into in the country she's cutting professional makeup And then she has to guess when you're on the Trump trip, they didn't send a makeup artist with her. And it's just like is this the same woman? Well yeah makeup can do a lot well since since NPR could not stop bringing up Epstein might as well just play the latest which we all pretty much know about by now This morning President Trump is calling the Jeffrey Epstein controversy a scam accusing Democrats of using unreleased court records to distract from his political success

24:05 Trump comparing the investigation to the so-called Russia hoax, saying quote they have gone absolutely crazy. Adding as things are revealed and I hope will take place quickly you will see that it is yet another Democrat con job but the pressure to release the files is a bipartisan effort Democrats and Republicans demanding answers. I want all of this information out man just put everything out make it as transparent as you can release the damn files The Justice Department searching for answers of its own. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch meeting with Epstein's convicted co-conspirator, Glynne Maxwell. She answered all the questions and answered them honestly. The closed door meeting lasted six hours yesterday, and it's expected to resume today Blanche is meeting with a convicted sex trafficker as part of the Justice Department efforts uncover quote information about anyone who has committed crimes against victims Those sources say it was Maxwell who reached out to the DOJ to request the meeting She's currently appealing her conviction to the Supreme Court There were a lot of questions that we went all day

25:06 And she answered every one of them. She never just said, I'm not gonna answer and never declined. Oh! And she answered them all truthfully! Truthfully? Oh Joe you answered every question! Truthfully... Yeah but there was another report uh.... President Trump is spending the weekend at his golf resort in Scotland where he will celebrate the opening of a new golf course. Next week, he will hold meetings on trade with European leaders The trip comes as here at home Trump continues to face questions about Jeff Epstein People should really focus on how well the country's doing or they should focus on the fact that Barack Hussein Obama led a coup

25:46 In Florida, Deputy Attorney General Tom Blanche a former Trump criminal defense lawyer has now conducted two closed-door meetings with Epstein's co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell in an effort to quiet criticisms the administration is blocking access to... How does that even...? Quell criticism. I think it only riles it up for two quiet criticisms The administration is blocking access to the Epstein files Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison term defense attorney David Marcus said she is cooperating freely We haven't asked her anything This is not a situation where we're asking anything in return for For testimony or anything like that yet the media have raised questions Liz back and replay that again

26:33 Yeah, it's kind of odd one the way he said that. Here we go... We haven't asked her anything. What do you mean we haven't asked for anything? I thought he just said they talked to her for days on end! What i think he is referring to is that we haven't asked her to do anything like quid pro quo like.. Yeah, I understand maybe what he meant but thats not what he said Well listen to the whole sentence cooperating freely. We haven't asked for anything, this is not a situation where we're asking anything in return for testimony or anything like that yet the meetings have raised questions Liz Oyer, a former US pardon attorney was fired from the Justice Department in March there's every reason to believe that they are seeking to make some sort of deal with Maxwell all that will help them solve this political crisis The president was asked if he is considering a pardon for Maxwell

27:22 A lot of people are asking me about pardons, obviously this is no time to be talking about pardons. On Friday a plane flew up in her over the courthouse meeting site accusing the president and US Attorney General Pam Bondi of a cover-up The President has called the scandal a hoax by the Democrats. It's a hoax! It's a hoax! Hoax? And so of course he keeps telling everybody to look at the coup What's that what's the hoax part I don't mind him calling what the Democrats doing a hoax, but what specifically is a hoax here? Well from the way. I listen and hear the president There's something in the papers as a hoax the papers are a hoax it's a hoax is the list It's a hoax. It's all a hoax. I don't know And I don't think we will ever really know I did Dig up so very short unfortunately In the archives

CHAPTER 19 / 40 Discussion

Social Media Bot Flooding, Barack Obama Cyber Speech

Social media platforms are increasingly flooded with bot accounts used by intelligence agencies to massage public narratives. A 2022 speech by Barack Obama at Harvard is cited as a description of the "Cloward-Piven" strategy for the digital age, where the public square is flooded with "raw sewage" to destroy trust in institutions.

barack obama· bots· x· disinformation· vladimir putin

1:19:51 That's why we have to keep going. Well, it is gonna be like you say if it's gonna be model collapse I know I'm just clean then I'm not worried Why are you worried about any of this? I'm not but I have to fill time on this podcast So okay as well that makes sense and when it comes to crap just just for you know Just have a look at my timeline and look at all of the number accounts You know like Dolores five nine seven two two three six These are bots There's no one who would accept their username to be Dolores39226. People will try anything, let me just... if it's Dolores1960? Okay! BoomerDolores I got you This thing is filled with bots and the more i look at it then the more I see what kind of comments are being made by these bots The more I am convinced that

1:20:50 All of these social networks are now just completely flooded by intelligence agencies massaging a narrative. And it doesn't mean that they're doing it for the benefit of the administration, they're doing it for the benefit of whatever their messaging is nothing quite sums it up. And why wouldn't you do that? Exactly and nothing quite sums it up as the Harvard cyber speech from President Obama where he was clearly projecting, and in hindsight like wow this is really taking place right now the Epstein conversation's a part of it, the Mossad Israel all of this is a part of it. In Myanmar

1:21:36 It's been well documented that hate speech shared on Facebook played a role in the murderous campaign targeting the Rohingya community. Social media platforms have been similarly implicated, fanning ethnic violence in Ethiopia and far-right extremism in Europe Authoritarian regimes and strongmen around the world, from China to Hungary, the Philippines, Brazil have learned to conscript social media platforms to turn their own populations against groups they don't like. Whether it's ethnic minorities, the LGBTQ community, journalists, political opponents and of course autocrats like Putin have used these platforms as a strategic weapon

1:22:14 Against democratic countries that they consider a threat people like Putin and Steve Bannon for that matter understand it's not necessary for people to believe this information in order to weaken Democratic institutions You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage. Here's how to raise enough questions spread enough dirt plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media and political institutions and each other in the possibility of truth. The game's won. And as Putin discovered leading up to the 2016 election, our own social media platforms are well designed to support such a mission, such a project Russians could study and manipulate patterns in the engagement ranking system on Facebook or YouTube

1:23:08 And as a result, Russian state-sponsored trolls could almost guarantee that whatever disinformation they put out there would reach millions of Americans. And the more inflammatory the story, the quicker it's spread." Yeah and that's being done today right now by our own intelligence community! It's being done by Obama's boys! This is the Cloward Piven strategy! The digital version...it's a digital version of it completely And it's working. It kind of expressed how it works, you clog the sewers Yeah and its working! And how do you make it even crazier? Add AI Just add some Scaramanga images I don't think that makes it crazier just because it makes it easier No...easier for them to do yes But I think it accelerates You made me laugh so hard the other day

CHAPTER 20 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump and Melania Photo, Twitter Identification Debate

A debate ensues over a historical photograph of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and an unidentified woman. While some claim the woman is Melania Trump from the late 1990s, others argue the timeline of Trump's divorce from Marla Maples and his early dating life with Melania makes the identification less certain.

melania trump· donald trump· jeffrey epstein· marla maples· x

1:24:07 You know, you should have someone watching you when you post on X. Which one? What post got ya? The one where you said WHO IS THIS WOMAN NEXT TO TRUMP?! HOW COME SHE'S NEVER MENTIONED! I didn't do that... Yes you did! ...I said this picture shows up a lot who is this woman next to Trump and i wanted somebody to tell me Oh okay It's clearly Melania It doesn't look anything like her No it's totally Melania It doesn't look anything like her and it has to be pre-2004. He wasn't dating her then! I don't know how long he's been dating... Well, that doesn't mean that... What do you mean? Has to be pre 2004 Because he broke up with Epstein as a note. It is documented in 2004. You never saw him again Or spoke to him after 2004 That was the date. You got get all the clips you want When did he start dating Melania

1:25:08 Well it had to be after Marla Maples. And when did he divorce Marla Maples? Well let's find out when he divorced Marla Maples! Holy crap, I'm trying to look at your timeline... Your timeline is 100% TikTok crazy videos. I can't even find the Melania video Oh my goodness You're outta control It's not a video, it is still photo. Who is this woman? I constantly see this photo of Trump from 20 plus years ago who is this woman he has with why she never identified that well what's wrong with that was clearly Melania it's not clearly Melania doesn't look anything like her looks exactly like her

1:25:49 When did they first start dating? Let's see. Yeah, you do that and I'll look at Marla Maples when she was divorced Okay Well that doesn't mean he wasn't hanging out with her at the time Here, Zampolli introduced her to Donald Trump in 1998 She began dating Donald Trump shortly thereafter Who? Melania! And they met... Melania was dating Donald Trump in 1998?! No, I didn't say that Zampolli, Paolo Zampolli I'm sure a fine individual introduced her to Trump in 1998. She began dating Donald Trump shortly thereafter. Trump worked to get Melania modeling jobs and she supported him during his 2000 presidential campaign and they were married in 2005

1:26:37 So that your timeline well, maybe you're right. Maybe I'm completely wrong and she's changed her look which wouldn't surprise She's 25 years older or 20 years older than the picture Marla Mabel got divorced in 1999 there There you go but because he was dating with Melania in 98 hello So the timeline works. Okay, so you got me... Well now I know! I wonder who this picture of this woman was? It's Melania! It's so obvious! Okay well now I didn't know that's why i asked that's what I use Twitter for I use it for a point of information No! No! I see this picture keeps showing up over and over and over again and nobody identifies And they say here's Trump with Epstein and Epstein is with Gislaine There's no mention to the woman

1:27:26 You use Twitter to A-B test crazy TikTok videos to play on One America News. It's your testing ground! Do you see how many, what people like it the most? Have you been on her show? Oh no. Yeah I was on again last Friday. Ah! I missed it. Good. You just grouse about it. No, I think you're doing it wrong. You need to get an act together this is why I'm grousing. You'd be perfect do you need a hat we already discussed that. It's called in tech grouch. Yeah you gotta do a little crazy voice

1:28:04 You gotta say, you know...you got to have a catchphrase. You don't have a catchphrase? I DON'T HAVE A CATCHPHRASE! So your catchphrase should be WHO ARE THESE WOMEN?! That should be your catchphrase. Plus they're not always just women. Okay alright Anyway, I got a gem lined up next time. I noticed you stopped bringing them to the show You're like I'm not giving away my good stuff here No this because no I have an outlet for it That's other than the show because who grouse and moan and groan and make my life I'll bring the next shows gonna be loaded with tick-tock loaded with tick-tocks know The next show on Thursday is going to be our exit strategies which is even better than tick-tocks

CHAPTER 34 / 40 Discussion

Donald Trump Federal Reserve Visit, Interest Rate Refinancing

Donald Trump visited the Federal Reserve to pressure Chair Jerome Powell into lowering interest rates. Trump criticized the $2.7 billion renovation cost of the Fed's offices and argued that a three-point rate cut would allow the U.S. to refinance its debt, saving $1 trillion annually.

jerome powell· federal reserve· interest rates· bellagio· national debt

2:46:06 The president went to first time since 1932 the president went to the Federal Reserve To go talk to Jay Powell So here these two numbskulls wearing hard hats and of course this was a moment that the mainstream media just lumped jumping all Just jumped all over. Oh He got owned by power! We got owned! The extraordinary moment playing out in the Federal Reserve building late today in front of cameras, President Trump and the Federal Reserve chair amid the president's continuing pressure on Jerome Powell to bring rates down. Today, the sudden move by the president, the numbers he pulled out, Jerome Powell then reading them in real time and shooting them down. Here is Barry Bruce.

2:46:47 Tonight, an extraordinary scene at the Federal Reserve as President Trump ramps up his effort to pressure Fed Chair Jerome Powell to lower interest rates. Trump making a rare visit to the fed to challenge Powell on the building's multi-billion dollar renovation with cameras rolling trump pulling out a sheet of paper trying to surprise the fed chair with a new price tag for the project but powell telling the president that number factors in construction that was completed five years ago. It looks like it's about 3.1 billion, went up a little bit or a lot so the 2.7 is now 3.1 and- I'm not aware of that. Yeah it just came out. I haven't heard that from anybody but Fed. And it just came out. Arno said at about 3.1 as well? 3.1. This came from us? Yes.

2:47:44 You're including the Martin renovation. You just added in a third building is what that is, that's the third building. It was built five years ago we finished Martin five years ago it was part of the overall work so So we can take a look but reporters then asking As a real estate developer What would you do with a project manager who would be over budget? Generally speaking, what would I do? I'd fire him. So this whole thing is just baffling to me 3.1 2.7 billion for offices! Not only that but they're already built as you did the renovation is the two point seven Do you know what it costs to build the entire Bellagio in Las Vegas 800 million

2:48:37 No, 1.6 billion and that's expensive That was the most expensive building at the time $1.6 billion to do the entire Bellagio and it is costing 2.7 to do a renovation? Yeah I mean... This is a scam! At MSNBC the whole more... Oh oh he owned Powell owned him Yeah, he did. But the real information is not discussed at all which is the whole reason why I think the main...I don't know. I'm not the Fed chair but this is the real reason that President Trump wants to make some changes and this was in

2:49:17 statements of the press afterwards, which of course no one aired. Why would you? If it's high never helps it well as good as we're doing think about how well we'd be like a rocket ship As good as were doing We do better if we had lower interest rates and we should! Were prime Don't forget without us the whole world collapses So we should have the lowest interest rate because You know you can talk about Switzerland You can talk about wonderful countries No debt but without us everything collapses We should have the lowest interest rate. And if you took it down three points, not a little bit but three points If you got us down to one we would save more than $1 trillion basically with just a paper transfer You wouldn't be cutting costs of anything, you wouldn't be building anything Just a move of the hand saying we're gonna lower interest rates

2:50:08 you would save a trillion dollars a year and there's nothing you can do to save that kind of money. So, well we had a little talk about it and I thought it was very productive talk he'll be able to tell you at his next meeting but I will say that he did say the country is doing really well And the country is really doing well What would happen in your opinion If by some miraculous happenstance, the Federal Reserve lowered the interest rate by three points in one go. What would happen? Well first of all your housing market would go nuts Yeah everyone start buying houses yeah and it would be at the prices of houses with just skyrocket I mean to an extreme And the other thing is that stock market probably

2:51:03 spend about three or four days trying to figure out whether this was good or bad and then perhaps start to go up to an extreme that's uncomfortable. Things would, it wouldn't be a bad I mean it just not get wouldn't hurt anything... And we could refi the country overnight! We could refi the debt that we have to pay back this year. Refying would be a good idea yeah That's how he saves the trillion dollars by a refy so But they're not going to do it. I mean, I don't know why we actually have high... Switzerland i think is down to like 1.5% It's really low All of the EU was down to 2%. Yeah, it's down We're actually artificially high and doesn't make any sense Well, Is that just political because he doesn't actually want Trump to refi the country and say look I saved this a trillion dollars? It has to be Well that's an outrage

2:52:02 I mean, he did lower the interest rates just before Paris got out of the blue. He said well let's lower it now and make the economy kind of perk up a bit and it did and then hasn't done anything since And he was hired by Trump to begin with. I don't know what the thing is going on there, it could have been just the bad advice Trump received for the first term. He put people in there one person after another that were just bad and yeah Right on cue, which is exactly what I would have done if i had the Epstein scandal. I'd jack everything up and say hey you know what now we got everybody believing that I got Colbert fired

CHAPTER 39 / 40 Discussion

Meetup Calendar, IP Location Tip of the Day

The hosts review upcoming meetups in Columbus, Victoria, and Tokyo. John C. Dvorak provides the "Tip of the Day," recommending IPLocation.net for identifying the geographic origin of IP addresses using multiple data sources. The episode closes with a preview of the "Exit Strategies" special.

columbus· victoria· tokyo· iplocation.net· grimerica

3:12:04 breast milk and pablum. And as always at the end of the list here at The Round Table of the Nights and Days we have the mutton, and we have the mead! Go ahead and go to noagendarings.com, check out that handsome No Agenda night ring It is a Signet ring which means you can use it to seal your important correspondence We supply some sticks of wax to do that very action with And of course there's always a certificate of authenticity Welcome to the roundtable Sir Eric NO AGENDA! Well, despite what John tells you we do have meetups on the calendar I mean the people are still organizing meetups all around the world no agenda meet up stock. Huh? Remember We got the big one coming up in Tokyo But first we have a report from these Central Ohio

3:12:53 In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang coming to you from Dempsey's downtown Columbus. Sir Leary's group of scallywags looking for our deconstruction team! Sir Leary here just so y'all know Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Epstein his phone number it's 614-666 6969 in the morning bag slappers local representative of the peasantry here John you need to go back on who are these podcasts Adam you gotta get on who are these podcasts your new exit strategy grifters in the dabble verse keep on trucking stay safe

3:13:34 You're more than welcome. Not every single meetup is big, but two people even one and a dog you got to meet up Victoria British Columbia All right This is sir Rogan the tavern's Baron of the Cowichan Valley at the Victoria Meet-Up on Friday July 25th 2025 and with me here today in Barbara, it's ITM and what you say to yourself with your head through the half. There we go there is the meetup report for the Victoria Meetup. I hope everyone joins us will be doing this again in about two weeks come join us down here while that rogue saves work Oh, he pinched the dog. I liked the end of that report! That was awesome and it sounded like a very native Dutch speaker there and we had at that meetup thank you very much We have a meetup taking place this Wednesday It is July 30th We told y'all about us The emergency meet up in birthday celebration for Sir Sebastian of the Gitmo Lowlands That will be at 730 Japan Standard Time At Cybloom C-Y-B-L-U-M-E In Shibuya

3:14:36 Shibuya, Japan. Tokyo, Japan. Sir Mark Archduke of Japan, Japan Sea and all disputed lands is organizing that and on Thursday our next official show day which will be the best of Adam & John's exit strategies It's hours of fun, you will laugh. This is a good show North Georgia monthly meetup takes place at 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia Many more to come in August Victoria British Columbia Eagle Idaho Bedford, Texas. Copenhagen Denmark Blaine Washington Charlotte North Carolina Maastricht the Netherlands Cleveland Ohio hello Cleveland Mayfield Heights Ohio Alpharetta Georgia again and there's many more go to noagenda meetups calm to find the entire list if you can't find one on that list No problem You can start one yourself Noah Jenna meetups calm

3:15:36 You wanna be where you want to be Triggered or held to blame And you wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party. I'll start with mine. These guys are smart, they're hard-working, they're motivated, they want more and more! A tad on the long side... We have this one. Full body chills. They couldn't understand it. Okay how about this one? That's just propaganda. It was cute. I kind of like that one what do you have? I don't have anything good either Oh okay let's start with uh what do we got let's do with the podcasts wherever you get your podcast

3:16:36 No, no. Then the other one is support I hope you'll consider supporting us. Muddley? I hope you'll consider supporting us. How about this man? That's just propaganda Come on that's loud that's proud. It's not propaganda we're not doing propoganda in the show. That's just propaganda But it's not about... of course we are not propaganda! That's just propaganda. It's the best ISO it sounds the best And it's insulting. Okay, what do you want then? Well that's the only choice we've got really What we have no choice? What was the first one The first one...the first one was... It's too long These guys are smart they're hard-working they're motivated They want more and more

3:17:27 What if you took they want more and more off it'd be perfect. These guys are smart, they're hard-working, they're motivated they want more and more! Okay I could take that...I could edit let me just make sure I can edit that Yeah, it's shorter and better. It'll be like this these guys are smart they're hard-working They're motivated right there boom boom that's exactly what I was talking about hey before we do anything it's time for John's tip of the day And sometimes Adam created by Dana Brunetti yeah, I have a website selection

3:18:06 that's very valuable for people who like to at least see who is talking to them or sending them email, and this is the best of the group. There are a bunch of these things. IPlocation.net? Okay! What kind of thing is this?! That's interesting... IPlocation.net Yeah, and it tells you where... It's basically a... Finds your IP address. You put an IP address in it tells you where you are but it doesn't just do it with one source. It's actually a meta site that looks at a bunch of different sources so you get a bunch of possibilities

3:18:46 Okay, so is it gonna find so is it going to find my address now? Yeah as soon as you load it. It will give you your address immediately Let's see how it does okay, so let me paste this in here. We see IP lookup Oh wait didn't do ip location net yeah No I'm that I know but I'm clicking the button. I'm quick says. I'm in Greatwood Texas awesome Now put somebody else's IP address and it'll give you like eight selections. Or six? Oh, hold on a second now this one says I'm in Kyle This one says I'm in Dallas. Ah! Fredericksburg there It is okay all right we got Sugar Land

3:19:29 Interesting. In most cases it's all the same, but some flaky IP guys that you know since they're all over the place I don't know what network you're on they'll give you some estimates? I don't like flaky IP guys those guys are no good Alright. That's the flaky IP dot com. There it is everybody! Go to tipoftheday.net or noagendafun.com for all of John's tips. Created fast for you and me, just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Burnetti. That's right they are good tips these are tips that are handy you can use them anywhere collect all 1,000 and win the bonus prize

3:20:14 Code Bongino. Coming up next on your Noah Jenner stream, or if you're using one of those modern podcast apps we've got Tony Heller... Tony Heller? I've never heard of Tony Heller Oh! It's a Grimerica show there you go Grimerica We love the boys over there at Grimerica they're good Those boys Also end-of-show mixes we've got Melody, we've got Judd Hawley These are all real mixes by the way and Norad All real music, no AI. No joke! No JIPP! Because we're NO AGENDA baby On Thursday you get the best of Adam and John's exit strategies more than two hours You're gonna love it guaranteed Until then coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg Texas Close to Kyle and Sugar Land In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry