Episode 1755 · Sunday, 13 April 2025

Rat Poop

A coordinated political branding effort attempts to weaponize instability while a tragic helicopter crash and a thwarted domestic assassination plot reveal deeper systemic vulnerabilities.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 27m listen | 36 chapters
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About this episode

A coordinated messaging campaign led by Chuck Schumer and NPR's Brooke Gladstone is saturating the airwaves with the word "chaos" to describe the current administration. This psychological operation appears designed to trigger COVID-era trauma in the American public, though the simplistic branding may fail to resonate. Meanwhile, unsealed court documents reveal that Wisconsin teenager Nikita Kasap allegedly murdered his parents, Tatiana and Donald Mayer, as part of a broader plot to assassinate the President using explosives and drones.

In the skies over the Hudson River, a fatal sightseeing helicopter crash involving a Siemens executive is drawing scrutiny toward potential mechanical failures rather than pilot error. Aviation experts are investigating the possibility of refurbished or counterfeit Chinese components in the Bell helicopter's maintenance history. On the legislative front, Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Rand Paul have found rare common ground, both demanding that Congress reclaim its constitutional authority over trade duties as the administration utilizes emergency declarations to bypass traditional oversight on tariffs.

Cultural tensions flared at Coachella as Lady Gaga faced criticism for integrating Baphomet-style headdress imagery into her performance, a move compared to the provocative legacies of Madonna. In a lighter moment, the potential for a "Holobook"—a hollowed-out Hobby Lobby find used to hide smartphones—is debated as a tool for digital detox. The broadcast concludes with a sophisticated AI parody of NPR’s Scott Simon, mocking the public broadcaster's distinct tone and editorial biases.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Democratic Party Messaging, Chaos Supercut Analysis

A montage of news clips reveals a coordinated effort by Democratic leaders, potentially led by Chuck Schumer, to use the word "chaos" as a primary political descriptor. NPR's Brooke Gladstone is highlighted for using the phrase "stench of chaos" in a program teaser. The discussion posits that this messaging is an attempt to reignite cultural trauma from the COVID-19 pandemic, though the term "chaos" may be too simple to trigger the intended psychological response in the American public.

chuck schumer· npr· brooke gladstone· covid trauma· political messaging

00:00 Your tip is no good! Yes, yes, stoners around the world have noticed that. I'm curious why you noticed it.

00:41 I noticed it because I was, I just noticed it. It's just unusual for me because it's usually you notice it after the show. Yes, this is true. After the donation opportunity was gone. Well, today is Palm Sunday though. It's a good start. I guess. Yes. How come Ash, I thought Ash Wednesday. I don't even get to get into it. Yeah, I don't know. You did mention Chaos. I have the super clip. Oh, we both have the super clip. Well, how long is your super clip? Mine is 52 seconds. Oh, I guess we have the same super clip, but then I have a follow-up clip. Well, let me hit you with the super clip. Hit me with your super clip, baby! We begin this hour with the chaos. The average American sees chaos. The American people see chaos. It's total chaos. You brought chaos. It's just complete chaos. Unleashed an economic... They unleashed chaos. They are creating chaos. This chaos... There's too much chaos.

01:42 Total chaos. And amidst the chaos. Gonna see chaos. After seeing all the chaos. The chaos is unleashed on America. Continue to see the chaos. Economic chaos. A lot more chaos. Trump's chaos. This is chaos. With such chaos. The chaos because of this chaos. Chaos. all of this chaos uncertainty and chaos and all that chaos when it's chaos all the chaos chaos and confusion grow more chaos dysfunction the chaos is the purpose the chaos is the goal it's chaos Based upon that super clip I would say this was probably launched by Schumer. He probably said, all right everybody we're going for chaos! Schumer seems to be the guy behind much of this. Yes. I was just gonna say I had the one additional clip which is to prove that NPR is on board with the Democrat industrial complex. Here is part of the teaser for one of your favorite shows and one of your favorite hosts

02:43 On the media. Oh yes, with Brooke Gladstone. With Brooke, your buddy, Brooke Gladstone and here's her teaser. I'm looking for where the... Gladstone, yes. There's a lot going on right now. Mounting economic inequality, threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air. You know... Stench of chaos, that's a good one. We've had, there have been many Chaos, looking if we see any other... Chaos super clips. I think it was I think they played with toyed with it before they were going with the threat to democracy Chaos and confusion that would that was that was February let's just check that Tonight confusion and chaos is spreading within a number of agencies across the federal government tonight chaos and confusion across the federal government this morning chaos and confusion across the federal government Okay, guys listen. It's Chuck

03:45 Okay, chaos and confusion. Wait, wait, simplify the message. It didn't work, it was too, the alliteration was good, but it was just too much. You're right, thank you very much John for that input here on the Zoom call. We're going for chaos everybody. Is it good? We're going for chaos? Everyone got it? Chaos? Chaos. Going for chaos. Simplify the message. Chaos and confusion was too much. It was too complicated. The American people could not figure it out. They couldn't parrot it. We didn't do a good job. Didn't do a good job. Man. Well, chaos. It's just good. It's good. And I can see

04:30 where they tried to make this, I mean, first of all, no one cares anymore. People just don't care. They don't care about the... I have concluded, I'll restate what I said on the last show. Yes, this feels like we're in COVID, everyone's responding the same way. As I was pondering this, I thought, I was pondering, I sat at home drinking my schnapps, pondering, smoking my pipe, pondering, what is really going on here? Rubbing my chin and I said to myself, of course, this is just a re-ignition.

05:10 We have never gotten over the cultural trauma of COVID that is still lingering. These things don't go away within a couple of years for us, John, you and I perhaps, but I think that this is something you can reignite over and over again. But they have to use different words. Chaos is not the right word if you want to really trigger that COVID cultural trauma. I'm not quite sure what it is, but you've got to use something. I think they could trigger it on a dime if they had the right mechanism. Well, that's an interesting thesis. I'm not going to argue it. You're not going to argue it? I'm not going to argue it. Thank you. That means I'm right!

06:00 Well, you would definitely be right if they could come up with what you're looking for, which is the term, the triggering moment, the one thing. I can't think of anything. Somebody might come up with something that you start saying it over and over again and everyone just goes back to COVID mode. Well, can we use the word pandemic in a different manner? Can we say economic pandemic, maybe? I think pandemic is part of the problem. That has to go. Oh, that's no good. That's why I'm just thinking it's like been beat up. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just you gotta have something. I don't know. It's a great idea if you could come up with it. Virus, virus, virus. Can we use virus somehow?

06:52 Trump is a virus! No, it doesn't work. Well think about it. I think they're dead in the water with this. Oh, with the chaos? It's no good. No, it's all of it. I don't think they're pulling anything off. Maybe you just say the economic the economic downturn is spreading like a pandemic. I mean, maybe it can be longer perhaps. I don't think, no, they've already proven they can't deal with longer. You have to be simple. Because the people don't get it. They don't understand. It's chaos, people. Don't you see it's chaos? Well, adding to the chaos, and might as well address this right off the bat, was this very bad day in aviation in New York in the Hudson River.

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

New York Helicopter Crash, Mast Bumping Technical Analysis

A fatal sightseeing helicopter crash in the Hudson River involving a family from Spain and a Siemens executive is analyzed. While some aviation experts suggest "mast bumping"—a phenomenon where rotor blades strike the tail boom during negative G-force maneuvers—the lack of turbulence or sudden altitude changes suggests a catastrophic mechanical failure instead. Speculation arises regarding the use of refurbished parts or counterfeit Chinese components in the maintenance of the Bell helicopter involved.

hudson river· bell helicopter· ntsb· siemens· mast bumping

07:38 with the helicopter. Yeah, well you reported in real time. I did? Oh yes, I did. But I, but, but... Yes, you did. That's right. But we didn't know exactly, we hadn't seen all the video. Now we've got just amazing how much video we have, which is on one hand very helpful, on the other hand not helpful. There seems to be a consensus among news experts, aviation news station experts, that, oh, this is mast bumping, mast bumping. It's got to be mast bumping. It sounds cool because people are like, oh, it's mast bumping. I've never heard of mast bumping. Is it like clam bumping? No, it's mast bumping. It's something completely different. So I'll explain mast bumping and why I think this is not it. Although the results of what you saw with the tail rotor coming off, with half of the tail boom

08:27 And the main, not just rotor, but the whole gear separating from the aircraft. Mass bumping first came to play with helicopters in Vietnam. with the big UH-1s, the UEs, where you'd be flying nape of the earth, as they call it. So flying very low, you go, there's a little hill in front of you, you pull back on the cyclic, on the stick, you pull back, you go up, you get to the top of the hill, you push it forward. Now, at that point, the helicopter, which typically is hanging underneath this rotor disc, now that's what the rotor blades create a disc and you're hanging underneath it.

09:06 At that point, you have negative G force, so these blades which are intended to flap up and down, they will actually flap so far down because of the lack of weight of the helicopter, negative G, that it can strike the boom. They called it mass bumping because typically on those you wouldn't necessarily chop off the tail, it would bump it. Like, pffft. But in helicopters with this type of dual blade, semi-articulate rotor head design, it can't happen. Robinson's 22-44, notorious for it. They're also relatively cheap helicopters and, in my opinion, kind of death traps. I don't like the 22 at all. The Bell is not something that happens very often. You'd have to really go back in history to find a mass bumping where it chopped off the tail boom.

10:00 And there was also no evidence of a negative G force. There was no ascent or descent of the helicopter from the video I could see, so that would mean it would have had to been turbulence. There was no real turbulence reported. So to me it looks like this was some catastrophic failure with the tail rotor assembly. that just, I mean, it looked like the, I mean, it just snapped off almost. And then once that happens... Chinese parts! Cheap Chinese parts! That is something I was thinking of. These are refurbished helicopters. That's possible. It feels like a maintenance issue. There's this report which did bring up something else which would be possible.

10:42 New video obtained by ABC News showing that doomed sightseeing helicopter twisting in the air before breaking apart and dropping out of the sky. Federal safety investigators now pouring over the wreckage and the Army Corps of Engineers helping salvage pieces still in the water. And tonight the NTSB is investigating reports of a large flock of birds in the area and is appealing to the public for help. The 17 minute flight ending an unspeakable tragedy for the family of five from Spain that was on board. Augustin Escobar and his wife Mercy, both executives at global tech company Siemens along with their three children ages four, eight and nine.

11:17 and 10 today would have been the middle child's ninth birthday. The pilot, 36 year old Sean Johnson, a Navy veteran, posting this video on Facebook two weeks ago, showing himself flying over Manhattan. The NTSB says he had 788 hours of flight time, but investigators still calculating how much time he had spent in that particular helicopter. The operator, New York Helicopter Tours, has a good safety record. It flies hundreds of flights each week. Yeah, so no view of any bird strike is possible. You know, the video was not really clear enough. But if you have, if it's mass bumping, you probably see the aircraft start to rotate a little bit more than it did. And also, you probably wouldn't see the entire gearbox. I mean, it wasn't just the rotor that flew off the road, the whole... I'm telling you, cheap Chinese parts. You may be right. That is the only, it's got to be a maintenance issue.

12:12 I believe this aircraft was refurbished a year or like 18 months ago. It's possible. You know, it's a bad day. Let's go meta. Let's go meta. All right. It's not cheap Chinese parts. It was set up to fail so you could blame cheap Chinese parts as part of the negotiation. Well, why kill a family? CIA operative. They didn't like Siemens. Don't kill a family. This is no good. Jake don't care. They brought down that flight with that Russian dude in it. They brought that whole whatever plane it was, a Ulysses, whatever the hell it was. The Russians took down a whole flight? Well, that's the Russians.

13:02 Oh yeah. But counterfeit. We would never do that. Counterfeit cheap parts from China, yes. And that would be a good message to have at this point in this chaotic moment. It would be a good message to have. Bad day. It'll take, it will take, Probably, I'm guessing, because you just don't bring it right up as though you have it at your fingertips, this information. So there has to be a phony baloney investigation, which means that they will take about a week and they'll find cheap Chinese parts at the maintenance place, which would have been part of the...

13:42 So once they start looking into the parts is when they're gonna find the cheap Chinese knockoff. Well, we got cheap Chinese parts in our military equipment. I mean, we know that for a fact. So why wouldn't it be this? Cheap baffone bolts, you know, bolts that are not SAE. Yeah. What is that SAE? SAE is a certification engine. It is a standard for bolts and you know they test it. They take the bolt and then they twist it until it breaks. Real bolts made properly will you know take a lot more torque than a cheap phony bolt. I will say this is one of so I have not flown in a helicopter in over 10 years.

14:23 as a pilot or a passenger, because if I don't know who is maintaining it, I just won't get into it. Otherwise, I find them to be very safe. I would say I prefer a fully rigid rotor head design, which would be your Augusta, your Sikorsky, or your Enstrom. For this very reason. I just don't like that stuff flapping around. But I've flown them. I've flown a lot of them. So this is a bad day. Bad day for the family, of course, but bad day for aviation. Everyone's like, oh, no good. Don't get in a helicopter. I'll never get in a helicopter. Never, ever, ever. Well, that goes along with all these crazy stories coming out of American Airlines. What's that? Oh, people stripping on the, you know, having fights on the plane. Stripping. That's in-flight entertainment. What are you talking about? That's fun. People are going nuts.

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Nikita Kasap, Wisconsin Parents Murder and Assassination Plot

Unsealed court documents reveal that Wisconsin teenager Nikita Kasap allegedly murdered his parents, Tatiana and Donald Mayer, in late February as part of a plot to overthrow the government. Kasap reportedly purchased explosives and a drone with the intent to assassinate the President. The investigation looks into whether federal authorities had the suspect on their radar prior to his arrest following a traffic violation in Kansas.

waukesha· nikita kasap· assassination plot· drone· fbi

15:23 There's a lot of what was the this story they haven't done this in the past, but it just seems to be worse Have you heard this story? This morning newly unsealed court documents alleged this Wisconsin teenager Nikita Kasap killed his parents as part of a larger plot to assassinate the president and attempt to overthrow the US government. Kasap's mother Tatiana and stepfather Donald Mayer were found shot and killed in their Waukesha home during a welfare check in late February. The body was appeared to have been deceased for some time, was unable to to

16:22 calling for the start of a revolution to quote save the white race the documents alleged Kasab paid at least in part for a drone and explosives and that other parties knew of Kasab's plan adding some even offered advice and assistance Kasab was arrested in Kansas after police say he drove through a stop sign in his parents car I'm wondering that, you know, some knew of it, offering assistance. I wonder if we're going to hear that FBI might have had this kid on their radar. Oh yeah, it's got FBI written all over it. It is a six-week cycle period, although man, killing your parents and then hiding them, stuffing them in the closet until they decompose, that's pretty deranged.

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Lady Gaga Coachella Performance, Satanic Imagery Criticism

Lady Gaga's recent Coachella performance is criticized for its overt use of dark and satanic imagery, including a Baphomet-style headdress. The spectacle is compared to long-standing trends in pop culture established by artists like Madonna. Media coverage from outlets like SFGate is noted for being oblivious to the religious symbolism while praising the artistic teamwork of the show.

lady gaga· coachella· baphomet· satanism· madonna

17:01 And then getting caught in Kansas. I mean this kid is a lunatic. Maybe the kid went to Coachella and saw that Lady Gaga show. Holy mackerel. I said you had something. Holy mackerel. I know, she's worse. The various sets she used were all satanic. And the one with the Baphomet hat. Yeah. What was she trying? What is she doing? Well, she's calling out the dark forces of Satan, obviously. And I love... But what? For what? What does she need the dark forces of Satan for? Is her sales down that much? Does she need more accolades? I mean what is she looking for? Is she trying to get more, another Tony, Grammy or whatever she wants for her? I think this is just, this is the other part of the deal. Is this part of the deal? She has to do this now? Yes! And forever? Well Madonna's still doing it. She's doing the same stuff.

17:58 And she's starting to look like it too. She looks like the devil. She looks like hell. But I love the Cavalier reporting by the SFGate tech reporter, Stephen Council, who was just saying, oh, it's great. And then she went into this just great rendition of that. And it was great. And oh, and it's so awesome. During Abra Kadabra. The entire journalists in the San Francisco Bay Area are oblivious to Satanism. Do they not see what's going on? They can't, no they can't see it.

18:35 But it was a triumph of artistic teamwork and care, and of joint catharsis. Gaga knows the basic truth that concerts are fun if everyone's dancing, and that choruses sound excellent when thousands of voices yell every word. Satan! That construct, basic, hit-laden, is in her wheelhouse ten times out of ten. But it wouldn't have been enough. She gave Coachella more, and we're lucky to have seen it. I am lucky to have seen it. And did you see the crowd? There were lunatics! Yeah, it's... Coachella, man. Co-co-co-no, Coachella. Coachella. At this point, it's just... I mean, it was almost a throwback to, you know, five or, you know, ten... yeah, five years ago. She just brought it back with a vengeance. Dark forces, very dark. It's dark, this lady. Very, very dark.

19:32 Yeah, I mean I'm not even I wouldn't call myself a religious type like you I'm a Jesus, but I'm not a mile away It's like what doesn't take a genius you're wearing a bath of man headdress Come on kind of a giveaway Lady Gaga just a little bit of a giveaway like holy mackerel. What are you doing? It wasn't even close to trying to cover it up. It wasn't it was just wow it was wow I So let's talk about the chaos for a second because I have to say that there is some level of... Well actually, let's go to one of the progenitors of the chaos meme. She's in the Supercut several times and she kept bringing it up during this interview on ABC with Jonathan Karl.

20:23 These are all the Sunday shows. Thank you, brother Steve, Steve Jones of the Jones cartel for doing these. He sends them to me like half an hour before show time so I can just listen to him. Here she is about the chaos, the tariff craziness. We had this exemption on all electronics. And he said that the reason is because they're going to impose new tariffs in the coming months. What do you sense? What's going on here? What's going on? There is no tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption. Hold on! Did you hear that she's back to the old meme? Chaos and corruption? Yeah, she went back to chaos and corruption. Uh, yeah, Liz.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren, Tariff Policy and Congressional Authority

Senator Elizabeth Warren appeared on ABC's This Week to criticize the administration's use of national emergency declarations to bypass Congress on tariff policy. Warren argues that the current approach creates economic "chaos and corruption" and calls for the revocation of the 1977 law currently being utilized. Despite their political differences, Warren and Senator Rand Paul appear to align on the necessity of Congress reclaiming its constitutional power over duties and trade.

elizabeth warren· jonathan karl· tariffs· national emergency· rand paul

19:32 Yeah, I mean I'm not even I wouldn't call myself a religious type like you I'm a Jesus, but I'm not a mile away It's like what doesn't take a genius you're wearing a bath of man headdress Come on kind of a giveaway Lady Gaga just a little bit of a giveaway like holy mackerel. What are you doing? It wasn't even close to trying to cover it up. It wasn't it was just wow it was wow I So let's talk about the chaos for a second because I have to say that there is some level of... Well actually, let's go to one of the progenitors of the chaos meme. She's in the Supercut several times and she kept bringing it up during this interview on ABC with Jonathan Karl.

20:23 These are all the Sunday shows. Thank you, brother Steve, Steve Jones of the Jones cartel for doing these. He sends them to me like half an hour before show time so I can just listen to him. Here she is about the chaos, the tariff craziness. We had this exemption on all electronics. And he said that the reason is because they're going to impose new tariffs in the coming months. What do you sense? What's going on here? What's going on? There is no tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption. Hold on! Did you hear that she's back to the old meme? Chaos and corruption? Yeah, she went back to chaos and corruption. Uh, yeah, Liz.

21:06 This is Chuck. We already decided we would keep it just a chaos. Please don't bring back the chaos and corruption. It doesn't work. You're talking too fast for Schumer. Yeah, well I'm trying to get back to the clip. A tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption. That's all we have going on. What's the evidence for corruption by the way? I'd like to know. What is the corruption part of it? I don't get it. And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet. Oh, I'm sorry. It was chaos and confusion. Oh, chaos and confusion. Oh, she's made it even worse. You know, she is freelancing. You have to remember that Elizabeth Warren was an inch away of almost becoming president when Hillary was running the first time around. She, because Elizabeth Warren was seen because she was an up and comer. She was a superstar.

22:02 then she's, I don't know what happened to her, she's not even close to being what she was then. She's just a old crazy old lady. I know what happened is when she said to her husband you want a beer? That's when everybody went no, no, no, you're good. You stay in, stay in your cocoon Liz. All right back to chaos and corruption. There is no tariff policy. It's just all chaos and corruption. That's all That's all we have going on. And how can you believe any of these guys? What did Donald Trump tweet out all in caps? I will not back down. How many hours was that? 24 hours, 30 hours before he turned around and backed down.

22:43 They talk about an emergency. They've got a 10% tariff on basically every country in the world everywhere. What's the emergency that we have with Belgium? Or the emergency we have with South Korea? So look, Look, these guys are into chaos and into corruption. They're into it, like Baphomet, they're into chaos and corruption. And this is the reason that it is time for Congress to step up and to say under the authority that the President is currently using by declaring these national emergencies, no. The law says specifically Congress can just say there's no national emergency across the board here.

23:28 revoke that authority from the president. That will mean we can go back to having actually a real tariff policy. Congress will have its position in place, and then we can negotiate where we need to negotiate. But we got to stop this craziness. It's really- Crazy. It's really a cold day in hell when Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul agree with each other, because that's what this is about. This is about, we got to take it back. And by the way, they're senators. But okay, the House of Representatives, isn't it just the House that has the power of the purse? The House is the purse strings, yeah. But Rand Paul is on this too. He's like, oh, whatever happens, we got to stop it here instead of, I don't know.

24:11 Take a risk man, help pass the tax cut for everybody. I understand that you want to effectively repeal, if I have it right, the 1977 law that they're using to justify this. No, no, no. I just want to use the law. That's right. And use the part that says, no, when the president declares an emergency, it is then up to Congress to say, okay, by standing by or to say, no, there is not the kind of emergency that you have declared. I want us to follow the law. Very rich from someone who always voted yes for war without actually voting on it. Just, ah, president says war, let's do it, it's fine.

24:56 When's the last time we had an actual resolution to go to war? Was that World War II? I don't think he had one sentence. But that law does not mention the power to tariff and as you heard me also ask the Secretary of Commerce... Now it kind of makes sense that they wanted everybody to hear the words, no tariff is a tax, it's a tax, tariff is a tax, it's a tax, it's just a tax, it's a tax on the people, tariff is a tax, it's a tax on the people. The Constitution itself makes it clear that the power to impose duties, tariffs, lies with Congress. There's also a constitutional challenge here. Do you think the courts

25:36 are going to step in here. We don't want that to happen. The courts may step in here, but we don't have to wait for the courts to step in here. Look, every Democrat is ready to go to push back and take away from the president the power he's now exercising and the chaos he's now creating. The question is whether or not the Republicans will join us in this. There will be a vote in about 15 days. And the Republicans can either decide that their entire job is hyperventilating. That's what makes it interesting to listen to. Nothing but you know, another thing is where's the, where is this chaos in her mind? It's in her brain. If you just say chaos a lot on television and it gets through to social media and then people, wow, man, did you hear about the chaos? Yeah. I heard about some chaos. There's a lot of chaos going on.

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Democratic Shift on Trade, Elizabeth Warren Economic Claims

The historical reversal of trade stances is examined, noting that Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama previously supported protectionist measures that they now oppose under the current administration. Senator Elizabeth Warren claims that broad tariffs will destroy small businesses and raise consumer prices, despite recent data showing price drops in commodities like gasoline and eggs. Her rhetoric is characterized as hysterical and lacking specific evidence from actual business owners.

elizabeth warren· tariffs· free trade· small business· inflation

26:30 They're drumming it up. They're ginning it up. That their entire job is to do nothing but bow down to Donald Trump or the Republicans in Congress can say that their job is to stand up for the American people and to stand up for the American economy. Yeah, yeah. I have one more clip and then we'll be done with her. So where do Democrats stand on this fundamental issue? Tariffs good or bad? Well, I think that... Whoa, hold on a second. Trick question. The Democrats... I have just this little background for everybody out there. Traditionally... Yes, they've been all for it. The Democrats versus the Republicans, the Democrats have always been for heavy duty tariffs

27:17 for both economic reasons and protectionist reasons. The Republicans have traditionally always been dead set against all tariffs, and they want free trade. And so No, we could dig up clips, we don't have them handy, at least I don't have them. Hillary Clinton, Obama, Bill Clinton, Schumer, all of them, all of them. All of them. Obama, Warren Buffett in 2005. Everybody. Everybody has been on and off. On and on and on about how we need to tariff, especially China. So this is a trick question and of course because

27:53 Trump is now on the Democrats side of the argument. Oh, now we got to switch sides. We can't have it. Yeah, I love her little pause here. Here we go. You shouldn't ask me that, Carl. I think Democrats are entirely united that Donald Trump's across-the-board tariffs are bad. They make no economic sense. No economic sense. But that doesn't mean there aren't specific cases where tariffs make a lot of sense. If you have a plan in mind, a goal in mind, tariffs can be a tool in the economic toolbox. So she is now on board with the, okay, tariffs, yes, but I don't like how he's doing it. It's chaotic.

28:43 But remember the underline here, and I think you're right to focus on prices and costs. What did Donald Trump say on day one? He said on day one he would lower prices. That's what he ran on. Once he got elected, his first interview, he said the reason he won is because he said on day one he would lower prices. He's six weeks in when someone points out to him that the tariff policy he's pursuing is likely to raise prices. Listen to this false argument. What do you call it? False equivalency. The prices of mainly gasoline have come down dramatically. Yeah. A dollar for me, a dollar, it's noticeable. And even eggs.

29:26 The egg prices, yes, why you don't have many stories? The problem with the eggs prices is they haven't come down universally and so they'll find some place where the eggs are still expensive. Believe me, believe me, I found the clip. But so now she's saying, oh no, but he said it'll bring prices down but what he's doing is gonna make them go up even though prices have come down. And he said he couldn't care less. And that's the problem. He said that? I don't remember him saying that. He said he couldn't care less. He couldn't care less. Couldn't care less. And that's the problem we've got. Donald Trump and the Republicans. So the problem is not tariffs. It's that he said he couldn't care less. It's like they've taken a five gallon bucket of paint and just thrown it across the economy and said, there, that'll take care of everything.

30:18 Is Elizabeth Warren some kind of super economist that I'm unaware of? Because she's using such great analogs as a five gallon of paint thrown across the economy. This is, you're right, she's very unhinged here. She's hysterical. They are trying to put tariffs in place on every country. on virtually every product that they export to the United States and they're trying to do it all at once with no policy in mind. So I hear from a small business here in Massachusetts who says, gosh, I'm a fabricator. I bring in raw materials from other countries. I then make my product here in the United States and export it to other countries. What's weak about her argument here is if you're a politician, you just say,

31:09 You know, Bill, Bill the Welder, or, you know, she has no name, she has no company name, she has no actual product, so she's just making it up. He said what Donald Trump is doing just completely destroys my business. I just close up shop. That's all I can do. That hasn't even been in place yet, but all of a sudden it's done. Trump doesn't care about costs for families, doesn't care about what this does for small businesses. Instead he's off trying to make Republicans bend a knee and say whatever he wants them to say and trying to get world leaders to suck up to him. Congress has the ability to put a stop to that and we need to put a stop to it now. She's shaking when she says this. Her whole head is shaking.

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Semiconductor Tariff Exemptions, Peter Navarro Interview Analysis

Conflicting reports emerge regarding tariff exemptions for consumer electronics like iPhones and laptops. While Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick suggests these products fall under a strategic semiconductor focus for re-shoring, Peter Navarro's public defense of the policy is described as confusing and slurry. The administration's official stance remains unclear as to whether specific finished goods are currently excluded or merely under investigation.

peter navarro· howard lutnick· semiconductors· iphone· commerce department

31:56 She's a wreck. But this bend the knee thing is also getting annoying. Oh, I hadn't actually caught that. Bend the knee. That's good. That's good. You're right. Bend the knee. So then what happened? What I thought was odd is, you know, so we got an executive order and a clarification Of this came out 2 days ago clarification of exceptions under executive order 14 to 57. Of April 2nd as 2025 as a men as amended. And it doesn't specific maybe I don't understand.

32:35 There's a lot of legal... I need the constitutional lawyer. But it's really about semiconductors. Now, does an iPhone qualify as semiconductors? I think iPhones... I think cellular phones are mentioned specifically. Well, not in what I see. Well, semiconductors, they got them in there. I don't know. My understanding is that computers, cell phones and semiconductor are all exempt. This is what I'm so afraid of. That's my understanding too, but I can't find any actual verbiage that says it's about cell phones. I see semiconductors everywhere, but I don't see cell phones. So I'm just curious if this has just been thrown out there.

33:24 Let me see. Nobody's arguing against it. Nobody's saying it's not cell phones. You're the only one so far. That's right. That's right. I'm arguing against this. I don't... No more cell phones. Keep them out. I'm so disappointed. Get rid of these cell phones. Look, you're talking about the fact that... This is Kristen Welker, your girl, with Peter Navarro. Is Peter Navarro on his way out? It feels like... He's he's been oh, he's definitely honest. He's he gets more airtime than anybody because he's crazy He says crazy stuff no wonder look you're talking about why stop with the look

34:05 Look, you're talking about the fact that the White House has a strategy. The Commerce Secretary, the Treasury Secretary, the President himself said there would not be exclusions and yet just yesterday there were exclusions. So is there in fact a plan or is the President making this up as he goes along? So the policy is no exemptions, no exclusions. The policy is in effect. But there were exclusions. No, there were not exclusions. Let me explain. Okay. This is really good for the American people to understand. There's like different ways to go about getting fairness for the American people. The IEPA is also used for the trade deficit, but there's also a really important thing, Kristen, and this deals with the chips issue you're talking about. That's what we call the...

34:49 You know, I've been listening to this guy. He sounds plastered half the time. He's always slurring and in this case, I heard it again. That would explain a lot. I'm wondering if he's... I'm wondering. All right, I'm sorry. Keep going. No, I thought there was a comma. I'm wondering. I thought there was something coming. No, I'm wondering whether he's like an alcoholic. Oh. Okay, hold on a second. I'm reading- this comes from Lutnick. And Lutnick said...

35:42 all those products, cell phones, laptops, etc., are going to come under semiconductors and are going to have a special focus type of tariff to make sure that those products get re-shored. So they don't... It was Lutnick, our Commerce Secretary, who said electronic devices, but it is specifically mentioned as semiconductors and now we have to go and get a, you know, so... Yeah, I guess it has other stuff in there, but sure, it's filled with semiconductors. So anyway, just a point of note. Into certain key strategic sectors, steel, aluminum, chips, pharmaceuticals, as we learned during COVID, we have to take specific actions. So what we're doing with chips, the problem, interestingly for chips, because it's very complex stuff.

36:33 is that we don't buy a lot of chips like in bags, we buy them in products. So what Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick is going to do, is doing it as we speak, is an investigation of the chip supply chain, the goal is stability and resilience, and you will see actions taken based on those investigations on copper. We've already have steel and aluminum, we already have autos, there will be pharmaceuticals, and there will be chips. And the important thing is There's three kinds. There's the high-end chips, which is the AI future, okay? We've got to get control of that and then there's everything else that fuels our autos and everything and I'm down I will it's not chaos, but it's unclear. I mean you can say well copper, but there's copper in iPhones

37:21 So, you know, there's chips in washing machines. So this is a little sketchy. Not in my washing machine, there's not. You're happy if there's a motor on it, you don't have to crank it by hand. Fair enough. I hear what you're saying on investigation, but there is currently an exclusion for some of those products. You want to call it exclusion, potatoes, potatoes. What it is. Potatoes, potatoes. Let's say, let's just. Let's just put it this way. Navarro should not be a spokeshole for anything. If I were the president, I'd be like, hey Pete, Pete baby, come back here, sit down, be quiet. You're not good at doing this. Potatoes, potatoes. What it is. Well, but let's say, let's just, here's, I think another thing that's really important.

38:08 When people talk about the chaos or lack of strength, whatever, you just go back to day one. I was there when the president signed it. It was the second to last order he signed. It was in the Oval. Well, you're right. He does sound a bit slurry there. I was there in the Oval when the president signed it. I was there with a fifth. not to review that carefully and see that there's there's rhyme to our reason and rhythm to what we're doing. There's rhyme to the reason and the rhythm to the bang-diddy-bang-bang shoo-bop-shoo-bop baby. But now the administration is actually on its website saying that they're offering refunds for some of these calls. Uh, no I don't know. It sounds very random to me. That would be, it's random! Random chaos! No, it's uh, also I got if you want to hear I've got Ro Khanna on this.

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Ro Khanna, Hamiltonian Industrial Policy and Tech Reprieve

Representative Ro Khanna discusses the need for a "Hamiltonian industrial policy" to bring advanced manufacturing back to the United States, criticizing the current haphazard tariff approach. Meanwhile, tech giants Apple and Nvidia have secured a temporary reprieve from new levies on smartphones and laptops. Reports indicate Apple chartered cargo planes to move 600 tons of iPhones from India to the U.S. just before the tariff deadlines.

ro khanna· howard lutnick· apple· nvidia· india

39:09 With Margaret here, let's play this. Roe, Roe, Cona. In the coming days you're also going to go to Connecticut to Yale Law on Tuesday. Are you trying to sort of troll Vice President Vance? And if so, why? Well, no, I mean, Cleveland City Club invited me to give a speech on the economy. And let's talk about these tariffs. Roe, Cona. They were chaotic. Yes. Brokaw, but what does he got to do with anything that they'd invite him to give a speech on the economy? And he's gonna use the word chaos. I heard that okay and they were totally haphazard. So you had Howard Lutnick on saying that we were gonna bring manufacturing back and electronics manufacturing back to the United States and they realized suddenly that that wasn't gonna happen actually the iPhone price would go up to... Okay so this is spiking the ball hey boys remember we said that iPhone was gonna be three and a half thousand dollars everybody bought it

40:05 They buckled under it. the kind we did with the Chips Act. That means investing in tool engineering and workforce. It means having investment tax credits. It means having government buy things from the United States. The president has no plan of how to actually have high-end advanced manufacturing in the United States. All right, I think that Lutnick is the bad actor here. I think Lutnick said something he shouldn't have, and he probably said it from pressure

40:53 Cuz he's a hedge fund guy. I think he got pressured into saying, no, maybe he's just in love with his iPhone, I don't know. Well, we didn't get a clear answer on when these semiconductor tariffs are coming. But the administration argues they're in the pipeline and that China's not gonna get a free pass when it comes to tech. What is that gonna mean for your part of the country? Well, it's again, they don't have any sense of when the tariff will come, when it won't come, and they're against the chip sack. So how are you going to let's say you suddenly put tariffs on China? What it would mean is the production would move to other parts of Asia. It still isn't going to come here unless you're financing those factories here, willing to buy here. Tariffs can be a

41:44 tool used as a broader Hamiltonian industrial policy. And that's what I'm here in Ohio to talk about, which is what is actually going to bring advanced manufacturing to this country? What is the harmonized Hamiltonian? What is Hamiltonian? Did Hamilton do tariffs? I don't know. I don't remember. So I'm looking under the definition. Jefferson did and it caused an economic collapse. Let me see, semiconductors. Well, I got some clips. Okay, please. I'll look up. I'm still digging in this. I got some trade analysis clips which are be part of this, which is part about tariffs actually. But let's start with this tariff high tech reprieve kicker clip.

42:28 Apple, Nvidia and other tech companies landed major relief in President Trump exempting smartphones and other electronics from new tariffs. As NPR's Bobby Allen reports, the tech industry had been bracing itself for a major shock. U.S. Customs and Border Protection published tariff exclusions late Friday that include smartphones, laptops, memory chips and machines that create semiconductors. fear of a sudden spike in the price of iPhones sent some customers rushing to buy new devices and Apple charted a cargo plane from India to fly 600 tons of iPhones out to avoid the new levies. But Apple and Nvidia, two of the most valuable companies in the world, have for now won a reprieve. The Trump administration has pushed tech companies to manufacture more electronics in the US.

43:11 But executives say the cost of labor, advanced supply chains abroad, along with hyper-specialized workers would make moving production to the U.S. in some cases nearly impossible. Impossible to do it here because we're a bunch of dummies. Our education system is teaching gender studies instead of electronics engineering. Let's face reality. Let's talk about that a little bit. So they mentioned that in that report. 600 tons of iPhones? That's quite a lot of iPhones. They're coming out of India. What are they doing in India? I don't know, they made them, Foxconn made them all in China. What's India got to do with it? What happened to the Foxconn plant in Ohio? Oh yeah, that was a flop. Remember that? Yeah. That was a first go round of more showing that we can't do anything anymore because, well, teaching kids gender studies and turning them and having their nuts chopped off doesn't really help.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Michael Pillsbury, China Trade War and Xi Jinping Strategy

China expert Michael Pillsbury analyzes the risk for President Xi Jinping in the ongoing trade war, noting that the Chinese leader faces internal pressure to appear tough against American demands. China is reportedly attempting to pivot its economy toward domestic consumption and the "Global South" to mitigate the impact of U.S. tariffs. Pillsbury warns that China often uses stalling tactics in negotiations, promising concessions they do not intend to honor.

michael pillsbury· xi jinping· heritage foundation· global south· trade war

44:11 Okay, let's go to my now I'm gonna trade analysis. This is Michael now this I picked up from from the Mark Levin show on his TV show on Fox. Yes. And he, Michael Pillsbury's the China expert at the Heritage Foundation. He's quite good. These clips are, and I can, and he goes on, this is just a part of a longer talk, but this is good stuff. Yeah. Trade analysis. Yes, I see it. I'm just looking to make sure I get the right one. As I understand it, the Chinese economy is hurting right now. And number two,

44:57 If they actually want to go toe-to-toe with the United States in a tariff war because most of these other countries want to meet with President Trump and negotiate some kind of deal, apparently China does not, or at least they want to save face. They don't want to show that they do. How's that going to wind up for China? Well, it's a big risk for China either way. If they make concessions and try to get President Trump off their back. The risk is their economy will be even slower in its growth rate. And the politics will be that there'll be challengers to Xi Jinping that he's been too soft on the Americans and he's a coward. This has happened before in Chinese history. The Chinese Communist Party has what they call the 10 big struggles. And each time the party chairman was kicked out, sometimes murdered,

45:40 So that's one side for Xi Jinping to be thinking about. Should I meet President Trump halfway, head off a trade war, or the other choice entirely is be tough. Do not give anything. And Xi Jinping has a record of wanting to tell what he calls the global south, Mark. That's like three billion people. He wants to portray China as an honest sort of advocate of fairness for the global south. That means less money for people like you and me who live in the global north. So there's a big incentive to Xi Jinping to be tough, to do nothing, and to steer things around like he did the first time this happened.

46:22 back in 2017, he got talk started with delegations. In that case, there were 13 rounds, Mark, 13 rounds of negotiations back and forth, back and forth, one in Beijing, one back in Washington. President Trump brought the Chinese negotiator into the Oval Office in front of the media, tried to put pressure on him that way. That agreement was, Mr. Trump said, I agree with him, it was wonderful, it was great, it was all time historical agreement between the two biggest economies. And the Chinese proceeded to not honor it in almost any way at all. Yes, there was his fight, but I don't have him clip those. He's saying that if you're gonna have, he says Trump's a little wiser this time around. He's gonna bring in people that don't trust China, which every time he said it, it was like I kept thinking of the clip, don't trust China.

47:16 Hold on a second. Here it is. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. There you go. That was wise words. That was our first trade representative. So here we go with clip two. So that could be the model for what we're going to see over the coming year is Chinese stalling. That's a key word. They'll stall us. and make the minimum concessions to prevent really massive tariffs being put on them and other kinds of punishment and just try to wait Mr. Trump out.

47:52 Tariffs stay in place. I mean we're talking about massive tariffs for a period of time What will that do to Chinese economy? Well it depends on what China's trading partners do and on the Chinese consumer market what Xi Jinping has been up to the last two or three years is saying we have to turn inward and have our own people our own rising middle class buy our products and and to some degree rely much less on the Americans or the European Union. That's the thrust of what Xi Jinping is doing, and I think you know why. He's been anticipating this kind of tariff attack from Mr. Trump.

48:27 When I was last in China about a year ago, I got an earful of how they're getting ready for Trump. They're not afraid of him. They can outlast him for two or three years and don't believe anything negative about our Chinese economy. That's the official Chinese propaganda line. Our economy is doing fine. We're going to have 5% growth next year. You Americans will be lucky to get 1.5 or 2%. So we're going to be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China. That's pretty funny. Hey, we're going to be double or triple. Yes, our current growth rate is what? 0.6? So yeah, okay, 1.5 is triple, woohoo! So we're gonna be double or triple your American growth rate. So this is what's been coming out of China. Now, is that a lie? Is that bluster? Do they just not know? This is what we're gonna have to find out. And I'm afraid it's gonna be the hard way, just like in President Trump's first term, he's gonna have to get the talks going and get documents down in writing that say, you know, we will do this, we will not do that. Here's a question for you.

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Light Phone 3 Review, Smartphone Addiction and Technology

The Light Phone 3 is reviewed as a $500 premium alternative to traditional smartphones, featuring a high-quality OLED screen but lacking a web browser or apps. The device is designed to combat "doom-scrolling" by limiting functionality to calls, texts, and basic tools like a calculator and music player. The discussion contrasts this minimalist approach with the addictive nature of modern mobile devices and their impact on education and social behavior.

light phone 3· oled· smartphone addiction· tech review· e-ink

49:31 Did the initial tariffs that President Trump put in and President Biden kept in on China, did that raise the price of iPhones? I think iPhones stayed the same, didn't they? Generally speaking, maybe adjusted for a little bit of inflation. Well, you have to base it on the margin. It looks like the margin didn't change much. OK, so that when that was what that was, what was it? Do you know the tariff rate? 20 percent. I don't know. It wasn't 145, that's for sure. No, it wasn't. Okay, we continue.

50:14 the final agreement last time, the January 2020 agreement, Mark, that was 90 pages long with annexes and definitions of things. So I hate to see that go through, happen again. I'd much rather see President Trump escalate and really have a superpower showdown between China and ourselves so we don't get stalled for two or three more years and then have an agreement that's not honored. 30% on solar panels in 2018, but it looks like there was two rounds of 10%. iPhones didn't go up 20%. This is bullcrap. And by the way, I thank you for these clips. I've taken the moment to take a look. There is no specific mention of electronics or iPhones. That's all Lutnik.

51:07 So, the interpretation of semiconductors is quite broad according to Howard Lutnick. I think he's just throwing that out there. I don't think that's actually true. Well, if he's just throwing it out there, that means they're going to collect tariffs. I don't think they're going to collect the tariffs. There's a lot of reports now that I collected half the tariffs anyway. Well, there was a computer glitch the first day. The first 10 hours of shipments that came in, they couldn't, they didn't calculate it. There was no tariff calculation at all. Good work, everybody. By the way, short review. I got my Light Phone 3 in, just speaking of expensive phones. And... How much, what do you mean by expensive? Well, this is $500. I thought it's quite expensive.

51:54 That is pretty pricey. But if you want a solid phone that is small, has a long lasting battery life, that does only the basics, and by basics I mean phone, text, calendar, camera, alarm, pictures, calculator, podcasts, directions, hotspot, and music, this is a great device. Great for the kids I would say better than some wonky Ivan. There's no no internet no browser no apps and John the screen is gorgeous. It's just because it's OLED. It is yes. It's gorgeous and so it has you know that paper kind of digital paper OLED.

52:44 But when you receive or set or you take a picture or you send or receive one through text message, it's gorgeous It's just gorgeous. I'm doing my best Tim Cook. It's gorgeous. It's just so gorgeous Great. This has replaced my flip phone Really? Okay, really quite out you and Leo are always into the phone thing No, I'm but I'm into cheap phones and cheap cheddar and 500 bucks is not a cheap phone It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper than anything well For what it is, if I had a kid and I'm sending him to school, I give my kid this phone. It's durable, it does a lot of things, it doesn't do any of the things. The problem with what you just said is that the kids waste their time in school messaging, and that thing messages. So what's the difference? Yeah, they won't be on the browser, maybe. They won't be doom-scrolling. Okay, the one advantage is they won't be doom-scrolling TikTok.

53:42 Yeah, or using snapchat, but they'll be texting yeah, I'm checking their email No, you can't check your email on it. No. That's a no email. No you can't check your email. You can only text Yeah, okay I'm just saying it's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, you said that. You like saying that. I don't know why you're doing it. I don't know why you're not interested in a beautiful piece of technology. You used to be like a tech guy. You say, give me that phone, let me change it to Korean. I mean, you know. Can you do that? Yes, of course. No, then I'd do that. That would be good.

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Bill Newlands, Mexican Beer Production and Trade Labels

Bill Newlands, CEO of the company producing Corona and Modelo, defends keeping production in Mexico by comparing the brands to Champagne or Tequila, which are tied to specific geographic origins. The technical possibility of brewing identical beer in the United States is discussed, alongside anecdotes about the distinct smell of Corona. The segment also recalls the "No Agenda" branded beer previously produced in New Zealand.

bill newlands· corona· modelo· mexico· palo alto

54:21 Actually, Russian's a good one. Anything. Chinese is great. Chinese is the best. It's the best. Yeah, because you'll never figure out how to get out of that thing. Okay, let's stay on the tariffs, but let's go to the EU. Well, now before we go to the EU, this is one that has kind of an Ask John in it. This is the CEO of the big beer conglomerate who make Corona and Modelo and all those Mexican beers. He has a complaint and I have a question about his complaint. You've spent, the company has spent billions the past few years building up their production capacity in Mexico. I believe you'll spend another what, $2 billion building out a plant in Veracruz over the next 12 months. I think this administration would say, Bill, why didn't Bill Millins

55:09 invest those billions in the US in making beer. How can you build a beer making plant in the US and make profitable beer doing so? I think there's a couple of things, Brian, you have to keep in mind. First of all, while we're an American company, we're invested in Mexico because we are selling authentic Mexican brands. These are not brands in the same way that you're not making champagne in the United States, or you're not making tequila in the United States, or you're not making New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc in the United States. We're not going to be making Mexican beer in the United States. Is that a fair comparison between champagne? I mean, is there something special about the ingredients in Mexico that this is why Corona has to be made in Mexico? No.

55:54 There's nothing special about the ingredients at all. It just happens to be made in Mexico. You can't sell a Mexican beer made in Palo Alto as Mexican beer. We could call it Corona. You could call it that, but then it would have to be made in Palo Alto. No, this was just technical. Right, because champagne you actually have to have, they have a... That's a law, that's by law, but you can make a champagne clone and they do very, for example in Brazil, they make a, they do it here too, sparkling California wines. It used to be called champagne. You used to sell California sparkling wines as champagne, as we say, California champagne. Yeah, then the French got all... The French, no, they weren't putting up with that because that would...

56:39 And for good reason. Yeah. And so and that was an international standard was agreed upon. It's also it's the the grapes from that region just like the agave. I don't think. No, the grapes from that region of Champaign can be duplicated. Although you can say well, there's chalky soil you can duplicate. I've had champagne wine style wine made with the method method champagnoise the way they call it they Made in Brazil. That is the closest thing I've ever had to taste exactly like champagne. Yeah, they just can't call it champagne Right. But I mean, I guess what I was saying is there's nothing special about there's no law that says you can't make Corona in America and just call it Corona. Yeah, you can't say you could say it's Mexican beer by concept. You should be able to make it a duplicate. You should be able to make a copy of Corona beer.

57:36 in Palo Alto that tastes exactly like the same, you know, Corona, which smells a little bit like pee. I was going to say the guy is, but he's, he's equating. By the way, you know that here's the story. You know, they always said, Oh, the Mexicans are peeing in it. That was the reason it would smell like pee. But I was at a, I was at a, a Safeway or lucky one of these big grocery stores. They had a big pile of Corona. that somebody had knocked over the whole thing. And so there was like, I'd say 50 broken bottles of Corona on the floor. They were mopping up and it smelled just like a pee. Like you're in a outhouse. It just smelled terrible. It's a terrible smelling beer. Well, this is a tremendous opportunity. We have a lot of beer makers in America. We have a lot of beer makers in our audience.

58:29 I think we should start making a new brand, Karuna, made in Palo Alto. It doesn't seem to be hard to make. It should be. You have to know what you're doing. Making beers, we had a guy whose name was Brewer at Amevio, who is a beer maker. I thought his name was, he had to become, I think he became one. He's working somewhere. But his beers were, I know a lot of people that make homemade beer and it's just, it's not as easy. I mean, sometimes, there's always a guy out there that seems to be able to have the touch, but there's still some magic to it. It's amazing. We had no agenda beer at one point. Do you remember that? Yes, it was out of New Zealand. It was good too.

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

EU Trade War De-escalation, Ursula von der Leyen Announcement

The European Union has announced a 90-day suspension of counter-tariffs against the United States to allow for further negotiations. EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen moved to pause the €21 billion in targeted duties that were set to take effect on April 15th. The delay comes as Brussels attempts to navigate the impact of 25% U.S. tariffs on European steel and aluminum.

european union· ursula von der leyen· tariffs· steel· aluminum

59:20 It was very good. I don't know what happened to those guys. They visited here. I met with them. Yes, yes. They were, they brought a bunch of weird No Agenda beer and they had some other beers that had ITM and stuff written on them. Yeah, yeah. 33's. I heard us say something, I guess, against the, whatever the hell her name is. And they went away. Although noagendabeer.com still forwards to noagendashow.net. How about that? So that's still alive. That's a plus. Okay, well thank you for explaining that and the method Champanois. But here's what our European Union allies are doing, the traitors. The European Union has temporarily paused its counter tariffs against the United States to further pursue talks with Donald Trump's administration on how to resolve what was shaping up to

1:00:10 be an all-out trade war. According to the President of the EU Commission Ursula von der Leyen, the suspension will remain in place for at least 90 days. The counter-tariffs imposed in reaction to Trump's duties on steel and aluminium were approved on Wednesday by Member States, targeting almost €21 billion in American products. The first raft, worth €3.9 billion, was scheduled to go into effect on the 15th of April before the change. The EU bloc had initially been hit by a 20% rate under Trump's sweeping tariffs, shocking Brussels and other capitals. The EU Commission, which has exclusive competence to determine the commercial policy for the 27-member bloc, has been trying to figure out how to respond to Washington's trade tariffs. So they're gonna team up with the Chinese, huh? Hmm. See how that goes for you.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Holobook Project, Smartphone Detox Gimmick

A proposal for a "Holobook"—a hollowed-out book designed to store a smartphone and reduce addiction—is discussed. A listener suggested using $7 hollow books from Hobby Lobby as a base for the product. While one host is enthusiastic about the potential for a 1,000-unit limited run as a "No Agenda" gift, the other remains skeptical about the product's viability in a society deeply dependent on mobile technology.

hobby lobby· holobook· smartphone addiction· product design· gimmick

1:01:05 Yeah, it won't work out. Don't test China. I think the China going to the South, going to South America and Africa, they've already done Africa. Moving everything through there. It's not going to work out for them either. No. Oh, before I forget, Opportunity Knox, just because we're talking about phones and everything. Recall our Holobook idea. Yeah. The Holobook idea is The cover of the book, help me out here, the book would say, I'm paraphrasing, this book will help you get off of your smartphone addiction. We need a snappier title, but did we have a snappy title for that? We don't have a snappy title, no. So at church this morning, one of the singers came up to me and said, I was listening to your show, I like that, and she said, Hobby Lobby,

1:02:07 has a $7 holo book ready for a cover. You put a jacket on that thing, boom, good to go. Holo book. Just seven bucks is too high. You could sell this book with a cover on it for 25 bucks. You're just making up reasons to not do this. No. I love this idea. Yeah, you do. And your phone goes, and so all we have to do is print up the cover. Why is that too high? People will buy a premium product from the No Agenda Show. And what is really the premium part is our cover. That's really what it's about. You still put your cell phone in there. Well, let's design a cover and we'll have a competition. Wow, the enthusiasm you're exuding is just beyond belief. I'm excited about this idea. Yeah, I know you are, but you're the one that still uses a phone. I have one in the drawer. I'll put mine in the book. You make it, I'll put it in the book. I'm...

1:03:05 I think you're underestimating the addictive nature. Yeah, I think we can sell a few gimmick books. I'm not saying you can't. You said earlier that this could sell like 20,000 units is what you said. 20,000 is a bit... I readjusted my thinking to a thousand. Maybe and it's only still as a gimmick as a gift as a Christmas gift a goof because nobody The more that we play these clips and the more I listen to you go on about a $500 phone that does text I'm thinking that you can't this is done. It's over the Society is ruined by these things and is then you're not gonna it's wishful thinking on your part putting the kill in buzzkill ladies and gentlemen

1:03:48 I would give up my phone for this for this. No you wouldn't. Yes I would I don't care about the phone. Look just because you're so awesome I got the phone in the drawer. Okay I'm not saying I'm awesome I'm a I am an outlier. Yes. Minimum. Yes and that's my point this is a real there's a real crisis of people using these smartphones and this book will be great. People can put it in there and they will think of us and they will stop using their phone. And a thousand units. That's it. That's what it takes. That's all it takes to stop using your phone. Listen, it's a great idea. It's a fun gift. I think it's got legs. We have another guy sent us another company that looks promising.

1:04:37 that can make the whole thing. Oh yeah, no. If someone has to make the whole package, you'll never do it. Think about the microphone company, how well we'd be doing with that. Yeah, we'd be broke right now because of the tariffs. No. I saw that coming. We would have had our whole shipment in, we would have had a warehouse full of Curry One microphones and tons of potential podcasters ready to buy. Hey, the time is right. Don't worry, we'll get that done. That'll be done. Yeah, four more years. Okay. All right. Alright, what else we got? Well, there's a lot of stuff going on. I have a lot of TikTok clips. Oh, please. I can't handle it. By the way, I wanted to play one of them right off the bat. The rest of them we can do later. Thank God. But since this came up kind of in the conversation, what is this? Play this April 20th TikTok clip. If Trump declares martial law on April 20th, which is the rumor, we're in deep doo-doo.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

TikTok Martial Law Rumors, April 20th Conspiracy

Viral TikTok videos are spreading rumors that President Trump will declare martial law on April 20th, which coincides with Easter Sunday. The clips show users expressing extreme fear and comparing the potential situation to "The Handmaid's Tale." These claims are dismissed as baseless "fear-porn" similar to previous internet hoaxes about the power grid failing.

tiktok· martial law· easter· conspiracy theory· 420

1:05:35 I'm terrified. This is absolutely terrifying as a woman, as an American. Is this the Handmaid's Tale? This martial law would surpass all police. How terrifying. Like what do I need to do as a woman to prepare? Help me. Help me help others. I'm so freaking nervous. I hate him. I hate the orange clown. Wow. So this is a follow on to the delusional dem I had on the last show. Yeah. Who said that there was a president Trump is going to declare martial law.

1:06:14 on April 20th. Yeah, 420 Easter. Yeah. Yeah, that makes nothing but sense. You're going to declare martial law on Easter Sunday. I don't think so. And for some reason this is going to create a Handmaid's Tale situation? I don't know what it's creating. This is one of many of these clips. I didn't collect a bunch of them, I got that one. But you had one, that's why you beat it to death. Where is this rumor coming from and why is it becoming popular? Well, it's like quantum dots. Grid going down. Grid going down, it's exactly the same. This is coming from people who don't have a holo book to put their phone in. That's where this is coming from. I have a follow-on clip though.

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Natalcon 2025, Pro-natalist Movement and Birth Rates

The 2025 Natalcon conference in Austin highlighted the "pro-natalist" movement, which advocates for increasing birth rates to prevent civilizational collapse. Figures like Elon Musk and JD Vance are cited as prominent supporters of the cause. The discussion attributes declining birth rates to a lack of family-oriented representation in modern Hollywood media, contrasting current "Armageddon" themes with classic family sitcoms.

natalcon· elon musk· jd vance· birth rates· hollywood

1:07:00 Speaking of handmaid's tale. Tonight, this message is gaining steam. So let me say very simply, I want more babies in the United States of America. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be the handmaid's tale. We're gonna make you have babies, making the baby machines. Well, it's led to what's called the pro-natalist movement. Pro-natalist. And it's getting more popular because of messages from Vice President Vance and Elon Musk. who of course has at least 13 children with multiple women. CNN's Mina Durstin is out front at the- No, no, he has a new one. He's got a new one. I don't think that one's real. It's just a fake baby. With multiple women. CNN's Mina Durstin is out front at the 2025 NATL conference. Because yes, there is a conference. There's a conference. Raise your hand if you are a mom or a dad in the room here tonight.

1:07:56 This is the war for civilization and we are going to win it one life at a time. We're here at Natalcon, which is a gathering of about 200 people from all over the world who have come here because they all feel very strongly that the world needs more babies. There's a civilizational catastrophe coming and the way to solve it is to have sex. Like, that's got to be the easiest pitch in history. Birth rates around the world are plummeting and they think this is the issue of our time. It's a massive of conversation and that's why we're here. We need to encourage more people to get married and have kids. We need those people to be the people of the future. Many countries are no longer having enough kids to replace their populations. Some experts predict this will cause labor shortages and inflation, permanently changing the economy. The people most passionate about this call themselves pronatalists. Pronatalists.

1:08:49 So we had a table conversation over dinner and JC claims he's got some documentation for this and I think he does. It seems as though the popular, when we went to negative birth rate and it may be a socialist thing that's taken place and it goes right back to Hollywood. When TV shows had kids on the TV shows and there was kids around and family shows that showed a lot of children to the public, we had a higher birth rate. Oh, no doubt. Yes, no doubt. I mean it makes sense as soon as you say it. It sounds, oh yeah, that makes sense because you're seeing examples. You know, you had your Ozzie and Harriet, you had your

1:09:35 Father Knows Best, you had the Donna Reacher, you had all these shows. The Brady Bunch. The Brady Bunch, very good example. So you had all these shows with kids and you know the humor that kids provide and it's good television and that's very slowly evolved into no kids on any shows. And you remember we had America's Funniest Home Videos Kids? Right. I think a lot of people, oh look at those cute kids doing stupid funny stuff. I want one of those. But no, no instead we got modern family. Yeah? Yeah.

1:10:12 Yeah, run by that guy Zucker the one of the producers that show that major major major Trump hater yeah well and in American I think the anti-americanism is stemming right out of Hollywood sure and it's trying to kill the kill the culture that's just said no more kids let's just let us all die off and that'll be the end of it and we'll be all good to go yeah Woo! That sounds groovy. So it wouldn't take that much to crank it up, crank the key. You know these bull crap you have to have the vice president telling people to have kids? Nobody's gonna listen to that but if they saw it you have to see it. Yeah, yeah. Well but but is it Hollywood isn't

1:10:58 Hollywood isn't even Hollywood anymore. I mean the people are watching the movies on Netflix and from what I can tell it's all it's all either outer space or Marvel Armageddon yeah Armageddon the end of the world stuff Yeah, we know it's creating a it's that that's the problem the culture generation that goes on from the Hollywood I'm just using Hollywood as a generic term because you're right. There's no Hollywood anymore. No But that that process is is ruining the country. Yeah, we should be shot Where's Shirley Temple? We need a new Shirley Temple. Oh

1:11:40 We need guys like Brunetti actually doing some work again. Oh, please. No, he's he's he got his money. He's like I got my money. I got my cyber truck. I love my truck. I got my truck. I love what I do. I got my fire truck and be sitting there waiting for a scaremonger to create a whole movie with AI. You know, Brunetti should be ashamed of himself. He took the best of this country. This country gave him enormous opportunity, enabled him to make incredible amounts of money off of the House of Cards and Fifty Shades of Grey. How about 50 kids from Dorian Gray? I mean, just do something. Do something to help America. 50 kids from Dorian Gray. I'm just trying to come up with something. Yeah, you can do it. Yeah, thanks.

1:12:31 Sorry. No, it's actually is despicable. It really is. I'll take his side because he says it's not possible because he says it's gone so far left you can't get a word in edgewise. You can't do it. If you're a conservative producer in Hollywood, you just can't get it done. There is an incredible surge. Oh, never mind. I'm sorry I brought it up. You know where it's coming from. There is a surge in Christian movies, feel-good movies. Yeah, or they do they involve a lot of kids? Yeah.

1:13:13 I've tried to watch one of these movies, it's just a bunch of, you know, no. It's just slavery and it's just horrible material. That's from Hollywood, but you need to look at Pure Flix. Get Pure Flix on your smart TV. It's nothing but happy-go-lucky movies. Marky Mark is making movies with his kids. It's great. It's got to go into pop culture. It's got to get on the television. But there is no pop culture anymore. That's the problem. The numbers are still there. Ten million people watch a show on TV. It's over unless these guys get on board. And they're not going to get on board because they've all become communists.

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Blue Origin All-Female Crew, Gail King Space Flight

Jeff Bezos's fiancée, Lauren Sanchez, has organized an all-female crew for an upcoming Blue Origin flight, including CBS host Gail King and singer Katy Perry. The 11-minute suborbital flight will provide three minutes of weightlessness. The segment critiques the media's focus on this "tourism" flight while ignoring more significant orbital achievements by SpaceX.

blue origin· jeff bezos· gail king· katy perry· lauren sanchez

1:14:00 Well, okay, well, two more years everybody! It's all over! We're done, we're toast, we're cooked! Not quite as bad. Oh, by the way, let me see, what should we do here? I got a number of funny things. Well, here's a good start. I thought this was a very good start. Where is it here? Of changing the culture. And, where is it? Here we go. This is a gale King gale King. We all know gale King Oprah's being launched into space. Yes. It's a good start in by the way She she is scared to death. She's the only one that's that's trepidation about this trip We're talking about this the dinner table too. We think this is just a

1:14:48 This is a kill shot. In Blue Origin's training capsule, CBS's Gail King got a sense of tomorrow's thrill ride. A trip 62 miles straight up to the edge of space. And I realize this is so much bigger than just a fun trip. What it represents to young women, to girls, what they're trying to do on space in terms of, you know, looking at the planet in another way. Space tourism, civilian astronauts took off four years ago. Three space companies, Blue Origin, Virgin Galactic and SpaceX have rocketed more than 120 people into space, including billionaire Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin's founder in 2021. Did this moment motivate you to push deeper into the cosmos? Hell yes.

1:15:39 Yeah, absolutely no doubt we have to build a road to space this several of tourism issues about practicing Bezos his fiancee Lauren Sanchez put together Monday's all-female crew six accomplished women including King pop star Katy Perry two scientists and a filmmaker a good start Their 11 minute round trip adventure will include roughly three minutes of weightlessness, floating in the capsule, looking out a window onto the world below. CBS News space analyst Bill Harwood. It's something we all marvel at, but I think getting from there to the point where the average person can do this is decades away, if not longer. Liftoff will happen here in West Texas from a launch pad on a mammoth ranch owned by Jeff Bezos. Gail admits she's both excited

1:16:29 I'm terrified. Now, the odds are, they've had 150 of these launches. One of these has to go wrong with some celebrities. And I don't wish no ill on anybody. No, I don't wish ill on anybody, but Katy Perry's probably one of them. We were talking about Satanism earlier. How is this a big deal? Didn't we land on the moon in 1969 when I was five years old? How is this a big deal? Whoa! Gail King's going up in space, gonna be weightless for three minutes. It's just gonna go up and down. It's just an up and down thing. I don't even... I mean, we...

1:17:06 What's overlooked is the, nobody wants to talk about, or I don't know why they haven't talked about it, but SpaceX took a bunch of amateurs and sent them over the North and South Poles and four complete orbits around the planet to do actual work up there. and landed safely. Hello, it's Elon. Hello. Did he have Gil King? Instead we're going to talk about the blue rocket. He didn't have Katy Perry. And regarding Killshot, I mean, if I was conspiratorial in nature, I'd think Bezos is like, hey, Sanchez, we've had a good run, baby.

1:17:43 Get on this rocket Get on this rocket honey. No, that's what everybody's thinking Morbid thought on your part or mine. I'm not the only one everybody is thinking this I'm not the only one thinking this okay. I don't die you ever went to dinner table We had the everyone was over on Friday and I'm writing your birthday two weeks late Yeah, that's still coming and so That came up in the conversation and everybody felt the same way that this is a kill shot Get rid of Sanchez. I mean, it's a sick thought what's wrong with the public today is very sad We're very there's a very cynical group of people the public in general Yes, you know why is because they don't have a book to put their cell phone in that is the problem right there They need a book. Oh, I hey Friday. I saw the oil Baron. Oh

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Oil Industry Frustrations, Permian Basin Production

An "Oil Baron" source reports that domestic producers are frustrated with falling oil prices despite supporting the administration's "drill baby drill" rhetoric. While the break-even point for many American wells is around $45 per barrel, many companies are currently hedged at higher rates. The industry is primarily seeking expanded infrastructure, such as pipelines and LNG export terminals, to handle the abundance of natural gas coming from the Permian Basin.

oil baron· permian basin· fracking· pipelines· lng

1:18:39 Oh yes, what's he have to say? Well, first of all, I get a lot of emails, oh the oil baron was right, oil is down, everyone's pissed off. So his partners in the business and people he knows, they're all like, I never should have voted for Trump. Did they not hear him say, drill baby, drill, which they knew they weren't going to do? You know, didn't he understand when President Trump said, I'm going to bring down energy costs? Did they think that wouldn't be? So they voted for him knowing that he said that, and now they're bitching. Big time. They literally, like, I can't believe this guy's no good. I never would have voted for him. Okay. And it's true. Democrat presidents are always better for the oil business. So I said, where you at, brother? First, I said, would you like a sandwich? Because I know you're so broke. Would you like a sandwich, oil baron? I know you're so broke.

1:19:41 So what do you think the number is that they, the bottom line number they can go per barrel? Because I have the number. How low they can go before they start losing money? Is that what the question is? Yes, that's the question. Go. Well, in Saudi Arabia, I know the number to be $25 a barrel. The American number, I'm guessing, is $45. Bam! On the money! Now, he says $45 we can do, but that's because he says we're hedged at 80%. He says if that happens, there's a whole bunch of other oil companies that will go under because they're hedged at under 50%. But he said, but that'll be great because we can buy them on the cheap.

1:20:25 And he did say again, he says, we're pumping out less oil per these wells, but we're real heavy on gas. He says a lot of gas coming out. It's all fracking. It's all Permian Basin. He says a lot of gas coming out. So the one thing they really, really want from the president is transportation. They want pipelines. They want pipelines to send this stuff out to the port. They want the LNG stuff to be ramped up. He said, if we can get that, we'll be really happy. And that makes sense. I mean, we need it with the natural gas is super abundant and cheap and we can use it for all kinds of groovy stuff. Yeah, use it to run power plants. Yes, as just as an example. Speaking of,

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

IEA Report, AI Energy Consumption and Climate Change

A new report from the International Energy Agency (IEA) suggests that while AI data center energy demand will quadruple in five years, claims that AI is accelerating climate change are overstated. The report argues that AI could improve efficiency in renewable energy integration. However, the analysis is criticized for failing to mention nuclear power as a primary solution for the massive electricity requirements of the tech industry.

international energy agency· artificial intelligence· data centers· climate change· renewables

1:21:11 This was great. France Vincatra, France 24, discussed a very big report that has been done now about AI and claims that is accelerating climate change. One concern around artificial intelligence is its voracious appetite for energy. Electricity demand for AI focused data centers will quadruple in the next five years, at least according to a report from the International Energy Agency. But the report also calls claims that AI is accelerating accelerating climate change overstated. Tech editor Peter O'Brien has been looking through all of this. Now there's still quite a bit of uncertainty then about the future of energy and AI. Yeah, that's right, Erin. I've been looking through this chunk here. Chunk? Basically, the takeaway is that yes, energy demand from AI is obviously going to increase significantly as we continue to use it.

1:22:01 But there are uncertainties, particularly around emissions. Is AI going to devour so much oil, well, rather gas and coal that it's disastrous for our planet? Is it going to actually increase efficiencies and spur innovations that allow us to reduce emissions? Or is it going to fall somewhere in between? And who better to talk about it than Thomas Spencer, who co-wrote the report. Thanks for being here on Tech 24. And why did you think it was so important to bring quite, you know, close to the front of the report that these claims that AI is accelerating climate change could be overstated? Well, in the public debate you see two positions being taken and they're quite different. The first one is that AI because of the technology innovation that it can bring can, you know, in simple terms solve climate change. And the second is a more alarmist position that

1:22:55 AI because of the acceleration in energy consumption is going to dramatically accelerate climate change. Due to climate change. So I got a hold of this whole report, I take a look at it and I have a conclusion here. This is an 11 minute report, I have a 37 second conclusion. What word was not in the report? What word was not in the report? I have no idea. Nuclear! Not in the report and when we looked very carefully at the data when we looked at the numbers When we did our analysis we found that neither position was really justified What is important is that AI is a tool like any other tool? It's up to us how we use it

1:23:39 It can help us on many climate problems, for example integrating more renewables into our electricity systems. Okay, so AI is going to help us with climate change by integrating more renewables into our systems, huh? But at the same time we need to manage the electricity consumption growth that we are already seeing today. And so we wanted just to let's say do a bit of myth-busting with regard to these two diametrically opposed viewpoints that you hear in the public debate. There's no conclusion. The whole thing is stupid. But it does give me the opportunity to ask you why you had not responded to my annual artificial intelligence test. I sent you an email about it. I didn't see it.

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Agentic AI Testing, Dvorak Weed Whacker Turing Test

A test of "agentic AI" using the service manis.im was conducted to find the best weed whacker, resulting in a detailed but "parlor trick" website that took over an hour to generate and cost $10. The results are dismissed as an inefficient abuse of compute power compared to traditional search. The discussion also touches on how Google's AI-integrated search results are destroying traditional SEO and creating barriers for website owners.

manis.im· agentic ai· weed whacker· turing test· seo

1:24:28 I, so you remember the manis.im agentic AI that I was testing? Oh, yeah, no, I did see that email. So let me take a look at it. Let me set it up. Let me set it up. So I asked manis.im, please find for me, this is the, this is the Turing test of artificial intelligence. It is developed by John C. Dvorak. It is the AI Turing test. the modern AI Turing test said, please compile and determine for John C. Dvorak, known columnist, host of the, co-host of the No Agenda podcast, a known technology expert, please compile and determine the best weed whacker available on the market today. Yeah. And it made a nice little website for you. I saw all of that, yeah.

1:25:21 What did you think? Did he come up with the right answer? I have no clue. I don't believe it. You don't believe it. I thought it was, you know what I thought? Because it said the Ego Power Plus Power Load with Line IQ ST1623T. That was the best one. But I liked, I think what this is what AI constantly does is it packages this in a parlor trick because I just asked for the best weed whacker. I'm going to put this in the troll room so they can take a look at it. Yeah, you should. And it created an entire website with an

1:25:59 with an introduction, research methodology, no it's parlor tricks. It's like a little kid who's you know knows this one thing he has to tell everybody. And it said the best weed whacker of 2025 a comprehensive analysis that even John C. Dvorak would approve. Well you didn't. You did not approve it. I didn't, you're right. And why not? Did you just think it... So it lied. Do you think it was no... Did you not like the side-by-side analysis and its determination? No, I didn't. I haven't given it a good... What it is, is I have not sat down and actually... I saw this monstrosity that you created.

1:26:40 I saw it. I didn't create it! Oh Jesus, you have to be in the mood to even approach this thing. By the way, it took one hour and 12 minutes for this. Yeah, I saw that part. I did see you note it. I'm thinking why did it take so long? And ten dollars. Why did you have to pay for it? It's credits because this is what AI costs and telling you this you can even watch the screens as it starts up web browsers and you can watch it go and it's scanning all these things, it's doing all these searches. This is a completely ridiculous

1:27:19 abuse of the so-called artificial intelligence because nobody is going to be happy with this. Nobody who just wants to know what the best weed whacker is, is going to wait an hour and 12 minutes for the thing to finish and pay almost 10 bucks to get this website out of it. That is not a consumer product. I just, I don't believe people are going to be all super wowed. I like it. It's cool. You know, for 10 bucks it's not. I didn't need the website, but it did that for me probably just to jack up the cost. Yeah, it's padding its bill. Yes, it's padding the bill. Yes. Well, it says that's the definitive choice. It may be true, but I don't know. Yeah, it might be.

1:28:10 I don't know. I just thought, wow, is that what a gent... Is that the hype about a gentic AI? I'll wait for quantum. Boy, you'll be waiting forever. Well, yeah. Okay. I mean, I find it useful. I use it for background searches. I tell people to... There's two or three of these systems. They all work pretty well. You have to double check them because they get carried away and they're all verbose, which is the real annoying part about it. They can't seem to get out of that mode. But I think it's still a replacement for Google. I love the trolls. Like, hey, they're already looking at the source code. Hey, there's Chinese in the JavaScript. I know those guys. Who knows what they're doing? Who knows? Probably injected something into my browser. Wouldn't surprise me. Wouldn't surprise me. Run spy.

1:29:03 Hunter 5 but you you will admit that if if you really had to pay for the compute the compute That it's using you wouldn't use it for handy back. I every time you turn around you got to drop $10 Forget it the end take an hour and 12 minutes and now you know Google They just then they're starting to show their AI results, and they're embedding that more and more so they're no good. Oh But it's even worse because people who count on SEO for Google juice to their websites, when you get the answers it has links but it just has links to more stuff. Inside Google it doesn't give you an answer and they bring you right back to Google with more search results. It's putting another barrier in between people who want their website found through Google and them finding it.

1:29:53 That's ruining a lot of stuff. Yeah, SEO is going to be a real challenge in the next few years. Yes. Yes. And it's not even going to be important per se. It's going to have to be AI optimizations somehow. I don't know how you manage to do that. It's all so lame. What it does really great is it does bad country songs. Please don't send end of show mixes that you made with AI. Please, please don't. It's so hard. It's like, look I made this great English shit. Yeah, you wrote some cool lyrics, I agree, but it's just so bland and so, you know, it's not... I was listening to, what's his name? Rush... Douglas Rushkoff? Rishkoff? Who's that guy? The old Silicon Valley hippie guy who writes about the humans versus the tech titans.

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Javier Milei, IMF Bailout and Argentina Currency Float

Argentine President Javier Milei has secured a $20 billion bailout from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to stabilize the country's foreign currency reserves. The government plans to lift strict capital controls and allow the peso to float freely against the dollar starting Monday. This high-risk move aims to attract international investment but carries the threat of renewed inflation and capital flight.

javier milei· argentina· imf· peso· capital controls

1:30:46 Yeah. What's his name again? Douglas Reshkov? I don't know, Reshkov. I can't remember his last name. Do you know him? No, never met him. Well, that doesn't matter. This is a story about Millet from Argentina who surprisingly, I wasn't expecting to see him do this, he made a deal with the IMF. I thought he was against all that. Yeah, he's also doing deals with China. Well, I had a thought when I heard this report and let's see if you can get into this thought with me. The Libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Millet announced on... Libertarian? Hold on a second. I know, Libertarian. Isn't that interesting? How come it's not far right?

1:31:30 Because they buckled, they're going for the IMF. Who is this report from? This is from France Vincatra. By the way, should be far right. Libertarian taking a bailout from the IMF? I don't think so. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Huh? No, it doesn't make sense. The libertarian government of Argentine President Javier Mele announced on Friday that it plans to lift most of the country's strict capital and currency controls. The high stakes gamble has been made possible by a new $20 billion bailout loan approved by the International Monetary Fund, which has offered a lifeline to Argentina's dangerously depleting foreign currency reserves. Mele said the loan will place Argentina in a better position

1:32:14 face global economic instability. Never has Argentina been better equipped in its economic foundations to resist tensions from the global economy. Starting Monday, Argentina's central bank will undo its fixed currency peg to the dollar, letting the Argentine peso freely fluctuate within limits.

1:32:50 From this year, companies will also be able to repatriate profits out of the country, a key demand from businesses that could unlock more international investment. The move is high risk as there's pent up demand for foreign currency. If there's not enough cash in the Central Bank, capital flight could imperil Malay's primary accomplishment of having lowered inflation during the past 15 months. So I was thinking about this. They're going to let it float free. What could possibly go wrong with that? I don't think the peso is going to be very competitive. But… Well, every time it floats free, it starts to go into inflationary mode. But the whole part about they want money to be able to come in and go out, wouldn't this be the perfect country to launch the stablecoin?

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan, Libertarianism and Israel

Intellectual Douglas Murray appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience for a contentious three-hour discussion with Dave Smith. Murray's humorous description of libertarians as the "bisexuals of politics" is highlighted. However, Murray is criticized for his performance during the debate, particularly his insistence that Rogan should only host "experts" and his failure to directly address rising anti-Israel sentiment in the alternative media space.

douglas murray· joe rogan· dave smith· libertarianism· zionism

1:33:47 They're already using it. A lot of people in Argentina are using stablecoin in commerce on a daily basis. I think we had a report about that a while back. I don't know. But this may be a great, what a great country to launch it in. Here you go, here's a bunch of our stablecoin. I have no idea. Speaking of libertarians, you probably didn't see this. I actually listened to the whole thing and it was Douglas Murray, who doesn't know him, Went on Rogan to have some kind of a debate with Dave Smith. You know Dave Smith I know Dave Smith. I don't know Dave Smith right Dave Smith is the guy who got all angry at us Yeah, well, I can't remember that story. Tell me well there were two reasons one because we didn't remember who Scott Horton was and two because we made fun of Libertarians and we and I think I said I'll take that I think I said well They're kind of just Republicans who don't want to say it. I

1:34:52 And then a lot of people in Gitmo Nation, you don't know what libertarianism, you're on Tom Wood's show all the time, don't you know what libertarians are? Libertar-er. I have to say I was a libertarian or self-proclaimed because there's no such thing as a libertarian in my opinion. But I was a self-proclaimed libertarian until I realized that there's no such thing. Well, what was— This is bullcrap. What was interesting is My cousin, I think at one point said, you know, she just didn't want to believe that I wasn't all in on Obama at the time. She says, well, you're not really a Republican, right? You're a libertarian. I'm like, no, I'm not any of that stuff. I'm not a part of any club.

1:35:39 I'm just me. I have my own ideas. But it's kind of a thing that people will put on you just to, just to like, I want to like Adam. Just say you're libertarian, then it's okay. You can vote for Trump, but just say you're libertarian. And so in this now, and I'll tell you why he was there. These big podcasts, they're starting to go nuts. I mean, who wants this? Who wants three? Well, you should debate Dave Smith, you Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan's show. And Joe almost didn't say anything throughout the whole show. It was all Dave Smith. Yack, yack, yack, yack, yack.

1:36:18 So the guy who got so mad at us for talking about libertarians, he let this one slide, but I thought this was a dynamite description of libertarians by Douglas Murray. Let's have a bit of hygiene on our own side, not lift every sewer gate. And what you say, on our own side, you mean the right wing broadly speaking? Broadly speaking, and I'm sort of funny about libertarians, I'm never quite sure, I always think, I always say I think libertarians are essentially the bisexuals of politics. They should just choose Joe. They should choose. It's kind of they just want everything in the buffet. It's very funny. Well, I think we want some things. I don't know. Okay, that's a weird way to put it, but I see your point. He's the point. Okay. So that was the only point at which Douglas Murray was good in this thing. He made a huge mistake, Douglas Murray.

1:37:04 But well, he made a couple of mistakes. First of all, he feels that Russia started the Ukraine war. Okay. But Douglas Murray, I don't know what you've been smoking. But his whole point, and I follow Douglas Murray, he's an intellectual, he's fun to listen to, I can't read his books. He's quite good at debating. Yes, but this was not a debate. Yeah. But in a formal debate setting, if you get to see him in one of those, he'll kill anybody. He's one of those guys, he's one of those guys, and there's a bunch of them, that you just don't debate with him because you're just gonna, you can't win. You're just gonna have your ass handed to you because technique. Yes. So this was not a debate. This was just a back and forth at some point, just a verbal diarrhea yelling match.

1:37:56 But the problem is he didn't go in and just say what he wanted to say. And I will summarize it because a lot of people watch this. And Douglas Murray came off really bad. Because he came in saying, well, you know, all these people talking about Israel and what they're doing in Gaza, and they don't really have, you know, you're comedians, but yet you're talking like you are historians, and you know, you're not an expert. And, you know, so of course he put his foot in his mouth there, because everyone's like, well, you have to be an expert? What, you can't just talk about stuff? This is America. You're lying to me? We can say whatever we want.

1:38:34 But what he was really trying to say is he too is seeing the rise of anti-Jew, anti-Israel, Epstein, Mossad, blackmail, blackmail nation, Whitney Webb, all this stuff very much on the rise and instead of saying, hey, cut that out, this is not correct or anything, but he didn't say any of that. Instead he kept trying to tell Joe Rogan he needs to have experts on. It was the stupidest thing. He couldn't just come out and say what he meant. It's like, hey, easy on the Jew hate, which we've seen it. This is why we distance ourselves from no agenda social. It was too much. It's like, stop.

1:39:24 And to this day... And the follow-up was just as bad if not worse. Yeah. Which I've just given up on. I haven't looked in... I don't even look at my own Mastodon. Of course not. And you were the big Mastodon promoter. Yeah, well, until I wasn't. And now it's just, you know, now it's turning into Zionists. You're a Zionist, you're a Zionist, boomer, shill, you, what does Assad have on you? Whoa, were you at Epstein Island? It's insane. Now that said, it's insane. Tulsi Gabbard not doing anybody any favors.

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Tulsi Gabbard, Government Transparency and Document Scanning

Tulsi Gabbard, working within the administration, announced a massive effort to scan and digitize thousands of documents from the National Archives, including files related to the JFK and MLK assassinations. Critics note a "switcheroo" in her rhetoric, where she pivots from promising transparency on the Epstein files to focusing on the "Russia collusion hoax." The segment questions why high-profile files like Epstein's remain unreleased.

tulsi gabbard· jfk files· epstein· national archives· russia collusion

1:40:13 I've got a long list of things that we're investigating. We have the best of the best going after this, election integrity being one of them. We have evidence of how these electronic voting systems have have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections. And lastly, we've been scanning, I've had over 100 people working around the clock to

1:40:49 I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but where's the Epstein files we were promised? You know, she took that same spiel, that was from the cabinet meeting. Yes, which is great. It's run just like a board of directors. She took the same spiel. I have a clip of Tulsi Switcheroo it's called. And this is from, she refined that particular spiel and she went on Fox. I think this was with Hannity. I only have part of the clip so I don't know if it was Hannity. I think it was pretty sure it was Hannity.

1:41:38 And she does this bit and it's the same basic thing but what she's doing here is interesting. Yes, she's leaving, she's talking about what she's gonna develop out of this, all this, you know, they're gonna dig through all this old stuff, leaving out Epstein and then doing a little, she did it on that clip too, a little bit. This is more obvious. And instead of going toward Epstein, she does a switcheroo at the end and starts talking about the faulty 2020 election. And this is so seamless and it's like, is this really? What is the deal here? Let's play this and then maybe we can discuss it. In other cases, they have been hidden with the hopes that no one would ever find them. Related to the Senator Kennedy assassination files, the MLK assassination files,

1:42:28 Unlike the JFK files, these have never been scanned. They've never been digitized. These are pieces of paper, hundreds and thousands of them, that have been sitting in boxes at the National Archives and Records Agency. So we've had over a hundred people manually scanning every one of these pages, preparing them to fulfill what President Trump promised the American people. Maximum transparency in the release of these files that have never been released before publicly before. We're not stopping there. We know that not all of those documents have been turned over to the National Archives Agency. And so we've got teams out there going and searching in warehouses at the FBI, at the CIA and other places to

1:43:11 uncover related documents that for one reason or another were never turned over before. So President Trump is very serious, obviously, about working to achieve that maximum transparency. That transparency will allow us to bring about accountability around the Russia collusion hoax, for example. The more we dig, the more we find the extent of the seriousness and the intent of that whole operation was very consistent with what we found in Stalin's operation. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. It is disheartening to see these things, but it also provides us the opportunity to tell the American people the truth about what's been going on so that we can make sure we try to bring about an end to it and bring about that accountability.

1:43:58 Hmm. So what is she's going to what did what did she switch the switcheroo I guess was for for the Russia collusion hoax who cares? Yeah, yeah, it's the whole thing is who cares about the Russian collusion collusion hoax. Well, we want the president Diddy the paper we want Epstein. We want P Diddy. We want Epstein. That's all we care about. Yes. I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, no, nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing. And then just to make matters worse, they're now calling her a terrorist Barbie. And I'm not quite sure what she's doing, Kristi Noem.

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Kristi Noem, Real ID Mandate and Journey Pass

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is promoting the May 7th deadline for the "Real ID" requirement for air travel and federal building access. This mandate is viewed as a precursor to a mandatory digital ID system. The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) is also developing a "Journey Pass" that utilizes facial recognition to streamline the airport experience, effectively creating a biometric tracking system for travelers.

kristi noem· real id· dhs· facial recognition· journey pass

1:44:48 They're totally... Kristi Noem. They call her Terrence. She's crazy. Hi, I'm Kristi Noem. She's wearing these outfits. She just loves dressing up as some sort of an agent and she's wearing flak jackets and hats. She's going out there and then she's grilling these guys. What did you do this? With her sidearm. She has a sidearm. This is ridiculous. Well, here she is. Now she's all dressed up and she's nice. Hi, I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity. Get a REAL ID. Starting May 7th, you will need a REAL ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States.

1:45:30 These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and they enhance security. Please do your part to protect our country. Go today and don't delay. To learn more, go to dhs.gov slash real dash ID. Thank you. This is, this bothers me too. You have no idea how much this is. I do. It bothers me too. And she has a little, yeah, but it bothers me because of your thesis. Because I'm right Yep, it's happening. All right. Yeah, but you're gonna be and this is really what's bothering me Just the fact that I'm gonna be right or the fact that what I said is gonna happen You're gonna be right about something that should not happen. No, no, which is digital ID. Yeah, which is what this is really headed toward There's no reason for this real ID bullcrap. It was

1:46:20 resisted at the get-go, from the get-go, as Thomas Massey's the only guy still pushing against it. And he's right. What's the point? How does it prevent fraud? She should have said this will make our country safe and effective. That's what she should have said because it will make our country very effective. But according to The Guardian, we will now see a journey pass. A journey pass is going to come into play. What is that gonna be? And this is an IKEA thing. I'll tell you on May 7th, you know, since the flying public probably only has about 70% coverage of these real IDs. It's gonna be a nightmare at the airport.

1:46:59 Well, so they want to move this toward, and this is ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization. So that's, you know, that is the UN body responsible for airline policy. They are going to come up with a journey pass. So you'll have this on your phone, which makes it very difficult for those of you who have one of our hot new books where you can store your phone. But you could take the book with you and then, you know, take it out of the book. And it will have your entire journey on it, so you only have to scan once upon entering the airport facial recognition.

1:47:36 And that's it. You'll be good. And they've been testing all of this. TSA has been testing it with the facial recognition. The boarding process is facial recognition. They're just stringing it all together and they're going to make it official and call it the Journey Pass. And you show up. And they always do this with travel. Everybody's got travel. We've all like, okay, I got to take my shoes off. It's annoying. Okay, I'll get TSA pre-check. Okay, and then all my biometrics are known. I'll get the global entry. And they always do it with travel because we live in this connected travel world. And that will soon be for everything. Your journey pass. Welcome to the restaurant. Please let me scan your face. Do you have a journey pass? Oh, you're good to go. Come on in. And that will be your digital ID based on facial recognition. It's unavoidable. It's very bad, but it's unavoidable.

1:48:27 Every time you go to Costco now, yeah, journey pass you'll have well They won't even mention it cuz there'll be just some cameras there and then they're just die. They're just dock it there would be no pass. It'll be all, like you said, facial recognition is the digital ID. And so you walk into Costco and you get, boom, they take the picture. You won't even know. But it goes into the database, the government database. Where was this guy on Tuesday the 3rd? Oh, he was at Costco for an hour. And he left Costco and then we caught him in his car and we had the license plate checker. He got home 20 minutes later and he walked up the steps. Yeah, we have the ring doorbell data.

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Political Gaffes, Tom Emmer and White House Slips

A collection of recent verbal slips by politicians is presented, including a White House official seemingly saying "nuclear erection" instead of "nuclear weapon." House Whip Tom Emmer is also caught in a gaffe where he appears to mispronounce President Trump's name as a profanity while reading ahead in his notes.

tom emmer· gaffes· nuclear weapon· house whip· trump

1:49:14 And so he's in the house as we speak so we can bomb him. I think drone him is the term. We can drone him. Drone the place. We know for a fact he's there. This is why you need more kids. You need at least five kids because for sure one of your kids is going to get droned for something. So you need to have more kids than you normally would have because the government will drone one of them. Oh man, yeah. None of this is good. None of this is good. Let's do some gaffs. I got two gaff clips. We'll just wet your appetite with... Gaffs? Gaffs, gaffs, gaffes, g-a-f-f-e. Gaffs? Gaff, gaff, gaff, g-a-f-f-e, golf, alpha, fox, fox, echo, gaff.

1:50:01 I'm all ears. These will be direct talks with the Iranians and I want to make that very clear. I also spoke to the president just last night about his goal when it comes to Iran and he has reiterated repeatedly to all of you publicly and also privately to his team here at the White House his ultimate goal and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon. Now I heard nuclear erection I don't know about you. I heard nuclear erection and I'm sticking to it. Play that little part again, I didn't hear it. The ultimate goal, and the ultimate objective is to ensure that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon. Come on. Alright, well this one's more clear then. This is, who is this? This is the House whip.

1:50:48 What's that? Whip. Tom Emmer. Which by the way, Emmer in Dutch is bucket. I'm not sure why. Tom Bucket. Here's Tom Bucket, the house whip. This is a much clearer gaffe. It's going to take every person in this room to get the job done. And I know that we will because failure is simply not an option. President Trump is counting on us. Come on, come on. After President Pump, this one is very obvious. President Trump is counting on us. President cunt? That's what it sounded like to me. I'm just thinking that's what it was. Let's listen again. President Trump is counting on us.

1:51:27 Oh, I see. That's where he got it. He got it from counting. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, he was thinking he was reading ahead of Trump and so he got the C into the Trump. He was reading ahead. He was reading ahead. I know you are. No, that's all. I got two. Come on. I got two. Where's yours? Oh, you can do a series. I expect three, four, ten. It's not like COVID. We had everyone was like, we're taking the virus. You need the virus shots. I mean the vaccine shots. No, none of that. But before we take a break, let's play another TikTok clip. Okay, this will be good. Let's do a TikTok clip because, gee, what do we do without phones? If everyone had their phone in a book, we would have no TikTok clips. And by the way, most, I have to say now that the number of legitimate TikTok clips in my list, I just call them that because they're on

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

TikTok Download Feature, Social Media Competition

The "genius" of TikTok's growth is attributed to its native feature allowing users to easily download videos as MP4 files with a built-in watermark. This strategy allows TikTok content to proliferate across competing platforms like X and Instagram, providing free advertising and saving bandwidth. Other social media giants are criticized for failing to implement similar user-friendly sharing tools.

tiktok· instagram reels· x· video sharing· marketing

1:52:20 Reels and scan what all these well in case you hadn't noticed every social network Every single one is copying tick-tock, and it's all just video. Just just go look at the timeline on X It's all video, and I've said this I think I said it on this show I said on DH unplugged that there's a slight genius to tick-tock that these other guys can't seem to figure out and I'm gonna reveal it no I The big review and I don't understand why these other idiots Facebook Insta, Twitter, all of them. The TikTok videos that they play on TikTok are instantly downloadable with a simple click. They will save any one of them to as an mp4 right off the site. Well, you know why? You don't have to go... You know why? Because they all have TikTok in them and so that... So go ahead. Yes, because they have self-promotion in the clip. Yes. So at the end they have the little TikTok jingle and it says TikTok. Yep. These other morons

1:53:21 Can't figure this out? No, no, no. They clearly they can't. And no, it's so obviously a great idea. And so I, so I get to take, so I'll be on Twitter and there's a tick tock clip with the promotion for tick tock because it's so easy to download. You just click boom, it's downloaded. You got the clip. You can save it. No, no, no, no. We can't do that. Yeah. And say it's gives them promotion and saves them bandwidth. It's very smart. It's extremely smart, but the... just annoying as hell. Okay, let's play the coffee girl. I mean this with every fiber of respect to my body. As a conservative woman, I do not want conservatives making my coffee. I quite literally want a liberal making my coffee. That is... we all have places in this world. Liberals are great at making coffee, okay? And I walked into a coffee shop today and it was literally

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Starbucks Unionization, Gen Z Work Ethic and Ham Radio

A viral video of a Starbucks employee crying over an eight-hour shift is used to discuss shifting work ethics among younger generations. This is contrasted with personal anecdotes of working manual labor and retail in the past. As a constructive alternative for youth, the hosts recommend getting into "hackable" Chinese ham radios like the QuanSheng UVK5, which offer educational opportunities in electronics and antenna technology.

starbucks· union· gen z· ham radio· baofeng

1:54:19 a blue haired girl with piercings all over and this is the best latte I've ever had. God is good. God is real. We all have a place on this earth. It's a beautiful thing really. Um, so anyways, yeah, he's a blessings. Blasphemy. I tell you, blasphemy. Meanwhile, those liberals that make the great coffee, let's listen to one of them. This is the Starbucks clip. of some poor guy who has to actually work at a Starbucks and he's just miserable because he has to work eight hours. People wonder why we need a union at Starbucks and I

1:55:01 I'm literally about to quit. Like, I don't know if I'm gonna do it, but like, I really want to. I almost walked out today, and I'm crying in the back room right now, and I almost cried on the floor. It's just... I'm like a full-time student. I get scheduled for 25 hours a week, and on the weekends they schedule me the entire day, open to close up on the schedule for eight and a half hours. both Saturday and Sunday. And like three and a half hours into my shift, there's so many customers and we have four people on the floor all day. Only five people were put on the schedule and somebody had to call out. And there are four people running the whole store and there's so many customers and there's possibly scheduled five people. We only have 13 people employed at this store and there's so many customers.

1:55:50 We don't have fair scheduling. Managers don't care about us. Our manager was supposed to come in this weekend and he took himself off the schedule so he wouldn't be able to be held accountable for calling out. He just literally tore down the schedule that he was scheduled on and put up a new schedule where he wasn't on the schedule. Also, he couldn't have even seen that he was scheduled in the first place because he didn't want to be held accountable for not wanting to come in. They don't want to help us. We need a union because this can't happen. This can't happen. We need fair scheduling. We need managers to hold themselves accountable for helping their workers. They refuse to turn mobile orders off. We need the liberty to be able to do that because there's so many mobile orders and I need to get through all of them. And then people are yelling at me because I don't have their orders ready. They don't know what to do. And a customer was misgendering me today, like really badly. I didn't have their order ready. And so they were just like,

1:56:42 Holly talking like Heather and like she's clearly incompetent. I have a full mustache and beard Okay couple things when I was a kid when I was 16, and I worked my Saturday job at Falkenberg Which was an electronic store where we had to, hobbyists would come in and they would want- Were they misgendering you? Sometimes. They would come in and they would-

1:57:21 And by the way, we had to be there at 730 and get ready and we had to set up the till. The till was a semi-automatic. I'll explain that in a second. So we had hobbyists come in and they'd say, yes, I want five. Here's my list. I have five 10K ohm resistors. I have 15 microfarad capacitors, and then I need this length of wire, and you do all that, and you had to put in a little bag, and so you had to read the codes, you had to look at the color codes to get it right, because there could be one in the wrong box, because the nerd across from you would notice it immediately that's not the right resistance.

1:58:04 And then you had to write it on a piece of paper, carbon copy paper, stick it into the till. You didn't have quite to crank the thing, although if the power went out you could crank it by hand. You had to type in the numbers, and they went... and it spit the paper back out and then you had to give change. You had to calculate the change and give them the change back. And then by the time we were finally done, it was lunch hour. You went and made out with the phone receptionist in the back. That was a Saturday, man. And these kids. This is why you need multiple kids. Some of them just need to put snow in their mouth when they come out. This is wrong. What happened? No wonder we're losing.

1:58:47 Yeah, this is very kid at the Starbucks is the reason we're losing. It's a noodle boy Or a good. I mean it was a girl boy. It was a I don't know I forgot my jingle. You're a boomer. I forgot my jingle. Yeah, you're a boomer Yes, boomer. Okay, call me a boomer what you want, but that was and that was in Holland That's not that was my American spirit in Holland. I We used to have that. We used to have that spirit. Test the wrong resistor in that drawer. Yeah, you could probably see it a mile away if you were on the lookout. Yeah. And then you had to explain... It's got a blue line on it, not a red line. What are you doing? You had to explain why you wanted the cassette tape with chrome, with Dolby, and how you used it, and how you would record with or without Dolby. Oh, I remember chrome tape. Chrome tape, baby, yeah. All of that stuff. That was the good stuff. Yes.

1:59:44 Yes, well then, here's how I got lucky. Then the VIC-20 came out, the Commodore VIC-20. And then everything changed from that moment. Because then I was writing database programs for dentists. on the VIC-20 and you record your database on your cassette tape. This is how we grew up. And then, during lunch, we no longer made out with the receptionist in the back. No, we were copying ROMs, game ROMs. Copying it, ah, there's a new ROM with a game. Let's copy it on a cassette tape and take it home with me. That's what we were doing. This is why I think ham radio is good for kids.

2:00:23 There's some of these new, the new Chinese ham radios, so building on the success of the Baofeng, and they're completely moddable. You can do all kinds of cool stuff with them now. Kids should get into that. Yeah, they should. It's fun. You know, it's all digital modes, you can message back and forth. They've modded it so you've got like a text messaging inside of it, point to point. There's all kinds of amazing things that are being done with that. Yeah. It's the... what is it? Let me see. I should probably tell people what that is. It is the... gosh, I thought I had it here. I guess I don't have it. I thought I saved it. Oh yeah, here it is.

2:01:19 Quan Sheng Q-u-a-n-s-h-e-n-g Quan Sheng UVK5 or the UVK6 These are highly hackable. A lot of fun. A lot of fun. Get your ham radio license. You have one? No, I ordered one though right away. Oh yeah. How much should they go for? I think like 25 bucks. Oh jeez. It's unbelievable. And they finally, they don't come with a stupid charging stand anymore. Now you can just charge them with USB-C. Oh, you just stick a thing in. Yeah, stick a thing in. Yeah, that charging stand is dumb. Oh!

2:01:57 Because if you have a couple of these radios, you have 15 different charging stands, you don't know which one fits in where. No, it's a disaster. It's a disaster. But with that, I'd like... You know, even batteries that go in cameras. from now on should have a USB connection on the issue of the left circuitry you shrink it down yes and and should charge within it should not have the outside. It shouldn't be necessary to hook it up to anything. And I suggest you get it now. You get it now because for some reason I have a feeling this won't fall under semiconductors. Yeah, yeah. So it might cost you $35. Think of all the fun you can have kids. Learn about antenna technology. It's great.

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Value for Value, Live Streaming and Bingit.io

The show's "Value for Value" funding model is explained, emphasizing that the podcast remains independent of traditional advertising. The interactive nature of the live stream at trollroom.io is highlighted, along with the utility of Bingit.io, a comprehensive search engine for the show's 17-year archive of transcripts and clips created by a community producer.

value for value· trollroom.io· bingit.io· podcasting· live stream

2:02:42 And with that I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the seas in the nuclear erections. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. John C. DeVos. Yeah, well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry. In the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello there trolls, let me catch you for a second. Troll count, troll count. Trollcat, here we go, trolls. We have 2,431 trolls at the peak here in the troll room, which is good to have the trolls here. Nice to see you all. Welcome aboard trollroom.io. We are one of the leading podcasts when it comes to broadcasting live, streaming live.

2:03:24 There's no editing, it's all live to tape and that's very interactive. People continue to troll away and talk about all kinds of fun stuff and sometimes it's useful, usually not, but sometimes they're talking amongst each other. It's like being in a television studio audience, but you can talk to each other. How about that? Imagine. You can laugh, you can cry, you can be mad, and it's all at trollroom.io. Or get one of the modern podcast apps. Pretty soon, you'll just be able to get podcasts on one of those fancy new ham radios from China. They'll just download it right onto it. You can share the podcast on the ham radio. I'm telling you, the modders are at it. Podcastapps.com. Value for value is the way we have chosen to live. It's been pretty good.

2:04:11 Over 17 years. Until today. Through the ups and the downs. It is what it is. We roll with the economic times. When you're hurting, we're hurting. When you're doing good, we're still hurting. Sometimes it's really good. But not always, but it's okay because it's value for value and that doesn't just mean has to be monetary. But I will say the end of show mixes have dropped off a bit. It's not like less people are listening or I'm sorry downloading the podcast because that's what the metric is. By the way, I was surprised. Is DH Unplugged now doing in-show advertising?

2:04:56 We've done it before. Oh, I didn't realize you'd done it before. Oh yeah, we've done it before on and off. We do it every so often. It takes somebody to come up with something. We've also refused a lot of advertising. Yeah. for various reasons, but once in a while somebody comes up and Horowitz has worked with Interactive Brokers for a while on his other shows. So they wanted to do this show. So he said, sure. Yeah. The only thing is like, but then I know I have an interactive, I think I still have an interactive brokers account. I haven't traded in many years. But now they have like some kind of prop bet we can bet, you know, yes or no. This is news to me. I think that's what they're trying to promote. You know, what's that company that did the, you know, that it's just some.

2:05:39 There's a bunch of these online operations that you can bet on stupid stuff like, you know, who's like you could bet on the election. You could have bet on Trump versus... Yeah, prop bets or just bets. But they're just bets. Prop bets. Prop bets specific to sports in general. Although it would apply to politics, like say in a debate, they would have a prop bet on how many times the guy's gonna save. Yeah, but this is like, you know, I think the weather's gonna be bad next week. You can bet on it. Yeah, that's, yeah. That was very interesting. That's gambling. That's gambling. That's not, that's not, what is that? It's gambling. It's gambling. By the way. It's like the degenerate gamblers. I told this story before, I used to know these guys

2:06:25 When I was in college, there were these guys that lived in... Polly Market. Polly Market. Thank you, trolls. Polly Market. They were degenerate gamblers and they were always... And you run into those. They lived in a house. There's four of them. And one time we picked them up to go bowling with a little group of us. And I went to their place. with somebody else to get it, come on let's go. And they say, okay, well hold on, so Jim's gotta go get his coat. And so one of the guys went, had to go back digging around the back of the house. And while the guy was on the process of going to get his coat, the other two guys that were there had to flip coins for quarters. I mean, they just were gambling. They couldn't stop gambling. They gambled on everything.

2:07:10 You know, listening to that, because I typically I'll just listen to podcasts. I'm not really a big podcast watcher. So I'm listening to that three hours and nine minutes of that horrible debate between Douglas Murray and Dave and mainly Dave Smith and a little bit of Joe Rogan in there. And every 15 minutes they insert ads. And a lot of it was gambling. There's a lot, and you get free money. Like here you get $150 to bet for free. You have to use it within a hundred hours. If you stop betting, they'll come under and offer you some free money because they figure you're going to blow through that and get back into the addiction part of it, which means you're just going to lose. Probably. No probably about it. It's designed for you to lose your money.

2:08:03 Yeah, just... but even just ads by itself, like, oh, especially if it's such a riveting conversation. Oh, this is very jarring. I'm glad we chose a different path. The path we chose is value for value, time, talent or treasure, which means you can do a lot for the show. There's people working on a new... actually, we could use a couple, but I'd like to stack up a couple of best ofs, like really kick-ass best of. shows that are, which are always fresh and new because you can assemble them in so many different ways, so many different themes. Bingit.io is your friend in that case. You can find any topic in every single episode, every clip. It's, thank you Sir Deanonymous, that's a great example. Sir Deanonymous created that, Bingit.io for us.

2:08:52 You can search everything on that site. It's unbelievable how good that is. Every single show going back to episode one, all the show notes, all the transcripts, all the clips, all index, you just type in blah blah blah blah blah and it pops it up. That's how I have to go back all the time. Like did we talk about yes we did talk about it because you forget. So we have artists who do stuff for us And we appreciate that because art is hard even if you're using tools like Photoshop, the GIMP or yes indeed AI. It's still very hard because you have to have a creative insight, a creative gene. It's still art. You still have to come up with something that actually works.

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Art, Tanstafl Win and Podcast Apps

The community-submitted artwork for the episode is reviewed, with "Tanstafl" winning the primary cover art slot. The discussion covers various themes including "Holo-books" and the use of AI in creative processes. Listeners are encouraged to use modern podcast apps that support "chapters" and in-app artwork displays.

tanstafl· podcast apps· digital art· ai art· chapters

2:09:34 And kind of failed last show. We chose what we thought was the best. I mean, again, we'll blame ourselves. We just didn't have something that hit it. This was an old theme. It was the cell phone in the drawer, which people did like, just looking at the responses on X. That was a cute piece. It was cute, yes, but I mean it wasn't, we weren't blown away by it. There were several, well first of all it's Tanstafl, so there are no such thing as a free lunch. We finally figured out what that means. And Tanstafl has won several times. Let's take a look at what we had. NoahGennerArtGenerator.com is where you can follow along. You can actually see the artists uploading art live as we talk.

2:10:19 as we do the show and all the way up because we choose the art right after we're done and we get the opening little blip, we do the credits and we try to delay as long as possible, give everybody as much chance to get their artwork in. And I personally, now I like the Blackberry with the cracked screen. You didn't like that because you felt that people couldn't see it was a Blackberry with a cracked screen? No, it didn't look like a cracked screen. It looked like an eyeball. Like an iris. Yeah, that was a fair point. Let's see. There were more cell phones in the drawers. We had MAGA credentials, which is okay.

2:11:03 It wasn't much. No. Well, a lot of books, a lot of hollow books, but you're so anti this idea. You know, you've started to do this, I think about it, I don't know, six months ago, maybe before that. You're looking for like a callback theme. Yeah. And you just take it through the whole show. So at the very end of the show, you'll probably make some other comment about the hollow books. Because I believe in this idea. Yeah, I know you do. And you believe in it too, but then when I started to come up with some real implementation ideas, you start walking it back. You're not going to sell any of this. It's too expensive. Walking it back, walking it back.

2:11:52 I mean, I don't like to do this to you, but you set yourself up for it. You do. It's okay. It's just funny. There's humor there. It would be funnier if we had the actual product in production. It would be... Jay can do the cover. She knows how to... You can print it at home. Oh, please. Now you're cheapening the product. Well, okay. I mean... And you're making her do the work. Well, we cut her in. She's always... Okay, well, you know, she could charge, sure. You guys produce books, you have a publishing company. Hey, get back to that point. We were talking about art. I was. It was lots of holo-book art. It was nice. Let me see. I think that was it. There's a lot of Trump AI. No, no, no, no. It's not gonna happen. This Darren O'Neill is just wasting compute.

2:12:52 Stop wasting computes, Darren O'Neill. I think he's got a rut. He's hit a rut. Well, no, he pays. Yeah, of course he pays. And so he has to get his money's worth. It's a flat fee. Well, the funniest one, although it would have been good if it wasn't Trump on an eagle. But it was kind of like the farmer's wife type level art with crayon. Yeah. That he somehow got that out of... Yeah, he's very far from his wifey. Yeah, I mean, farmer's wife could have done this. We would have picked... Well, not Trump. Stop with the Trump stuff. You know? It's... No. I just don't think that's... I don't think it's... It's no good.

2:13:36 Well, I think that was it wasn't it? Yeah, there's not much to say. All right, Tom Stoffel, congratulations. Another win for you. Of course, these other artists, you've probably seen it. Your art will likely get used in the chapters which you can see in the modern podcast apps. Get one of those. Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, you name it, it's all there. PodcastApps.com. Now, we're going to thank people who supported us monetarily. What we'd like to do is up front in this segment, thank our executive and associate executive producers. What is that you ask? Well, we thank everybody who sends in $50 or above, and we don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity. People do want to just be able to donate and know that we're not going to mess it up because we're famous at doing that.

2:14:24 So $200 or above, we will read your note and you get an Associate Executive Producer credit which is just as valid as something that you'd get from Hollywood. I mean you literally can be right up there with Dana Brunetti. Dana Brunetti who's just took all the riches out of the country. gives nothing back to America, but you gave something back to America. You're a good associate executive producer because you helped produce the best podcast in the universe. Then we have the executive producer credit, and these are good for a lifetime. Just go look at indb.com, and that is $300 or above. And we will start with our first executive producer. We have three of them today. And that starts with Darth Penguin. Sounds like a legit name.

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Scott Simon AI Parody

High-tier donors are recognized, including new Executive Producer Darth Penguin. A sophisticated AI-generated parody of NPR's Scott Simon, created using 11 Labs, is played. The parody features a script mocking NPR's typical tone and subject matter, which the hosts praise as a rare example of creative and effective use of AI technology.

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2:13:36 Well, I think that was it wasn't it? Yeah, there's not much to say. All right, Tom Stoffel, congratulations. Another win for you. Of course, these other artists, you've probably seen it. Your art will likely get used in the chapters which you can see in the modern podcast apps. Get one of those. Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, you name it, it's all there. PodcastApps.com. Now, we're going to thank people who supported us monetarily. What we'd like to do is up front in this segment, thank our executive and associate executive producers. What is that you ask? Well, we thank everybody who sends in $50 or above, and we don't do under 50 for reasons of anonymity. People do want to just be able to donate and know that we're not going to mess it up because we're famous at doing that.

2:14:24 So $200 or above, we will read your note and you get an Associate Executive Producer credit which is just as valid as something that you'd get from Hollywood. I mean you literally can be right up there with Dana Brunetti. Dana Brunetti who's just took all the riches out of the country. gives nothing back to America, but you gave something back to America. You're a good associate executive producer because you helped produce the best podcast in the universe. Then we have the executive producer credit, and these are good for a lifetime. Just go look at indb.com, and that is $300 or above. And we will start with our first executive producer. We have three of them today. And that starts with Darth Penguin. Sounds like a legit name.

2:15:12 Darth Penguin from yes, there's Darth Penguin. Uh-huh. Yeah legit from Streamwood, Illinois and comes in with 1080 and 08 cents, so that's a 10 boob 10 boob And Darth Penguin said... Ten boob. Ten boob. Yes, it's ten boob. It's like a dog. He says, this gift of treasure to the best podcast in the universe is for a boob-insta-night. Nice. Well, that's an interesting idea. Boob-insta-night, that's right. Yeah, boob-insta-night. I recently helped elevate totally not serial killer Kate to achieve her dame-don. Dame-don.

2:15:54 It would be truly amazing that with her ascension to the round table that I, being deduced last podcast, can be part of the royalty at the same time. I donate of my own free will my treasure to Lord Adam and Lord John. I request left-hand brewery milk stout nitro and Vito and Nick's pizza. Did I get the stout? I was gonna get some of that cheap Mexican beer. Okay, make sure you have... And Nick's pizza. You got it. Also, double karma for the No Agenda family and a Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park. Did you get the Scott Simon thing our producer sent in? Yes, I did. I did. But it was... I didn't know what to do. It's very good. It's very funny. Well, I sent him a note because I want to know...

2:16:41 What he's up to here? Is this him doing Scott's? No, I asked him and he answered me. Oh, I asked him too. I didn't hear back. He probably blocked him. You like Senate views this way. Everyone complains. I didn't block him because I got the thing to begin with. He does this guy. Okay, where's the Scott Simon come from? 11 labs. He says, okay, he says 11 labs has gotten pretty good with you can I guess you can upload a sample now. Yeah, no, it's been always good. I've been wanting to use it. I don't pay for the 11 lab stuff So I'm gonna have to pay for it because I would like to upload some voices Yes, and because these voices that I use for the fake and the show. Yeah, they're getting pretty annoying. Oh

2:17:23 They're the same people and you can't do too many. You're beyond your limit. Your free limits are over. Oh, yeah, because you'll adjust it by adding an exclamation point and that's like, I'm sorry, your free limit is over. You can't do this. You have to wait four hours. Yeah, I don't get that. But the Yes, okay. Well the Scott Simon that he's put in there is killer. Well I have it if you I mean I can play it for a second. Well, it's very long. Well, we can just just play it for a second. Just I'll play a little bit of it. Okay. Okay, so here's a little bit of it. It's bonus clip everybody. Good morning. This is weekend edition from NPR I'm Scott Simon and I'd like to begin today's show with a moment of quiet reflection

2:18:11 Not for any particular reason, I just enjoy the sound of my own breathing. It reassures me that for now, I am still here. Our top story today, scientists have issued yet another dire warning about climate change. The oceans are rising, the forests are burning, and quite frankly, I can't help but wonder, Why am I still paying rent? So It goes on this is quite good by the way, I'll put it in the show notes. It's like four minutes There's not enough marbles in the mouth, but it's pretty good. But what's good is he wrote a great script. The script is dynamite That's what he did. He wrote a great script. And so again You can't say to AI

2:18:57 Create a four-minute funny piece of Scott Seidman. You can AI will not give you this I should just lie down in the middle of a Whole Foods parking lot and let nature take me but first an update on my personal life Play a little more. Okay. Oh, oh my second. Yeah back to where I was. Okay. Oh Financial struggles of young Americans who claim they will never be able to afford a home, but have they considered simply inheriting one? We'll speak to an anti-Trump Harvard economist who has never put a pistol to their head because they couldn't pay the electric bill and who once described his darkest moment as quote, the time my dad made me drive the Porsche with the cloth seats.

2:19:52 That's talent right there. That's a talent that AI cannot come up with. No, no, I don't think so. But this is also the only thing AI is good at so far. This is the only use that I approve of. So I think the art, I think it does good art. For quick art, spot art, throw away stuff that people used to get paid for. And probably not quite as good as great creativity, but great creativity is rare. So even this guy who did the, I think it was Ryan? Yeah.

2:20:30 who did the Scott Simon material, which is hilarious. Not anyone can write this kind of... No, no. Well, this is funny stuff. So because you are listening to... Especially with the Scott Simon voice in mind. Because you are listening to the donation segment, we will do a little piece of Scott Simon in between each donation, which won't be a lot for this episode, I promise. Definitely. So double karma for the No Agenda family, a Scott Simon jingle for Susan from Tinley Park. She'd appreciate it. I'd like to be knighted as Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky. Carry on with your critical analysis and tips. Looking forward to seeing my fellow No Agenda compatriots soon at Reggie's Rock House in the near future. ITM. Suffer and Suckatash. I'm Scott Simon.

2:21:30 karma and we will play another Scott Simon drop right here and quote speaking of regret I'd like to issue a formal apology to the woman I dated in 1997 who told me she was going to move to New York and become an actress I laughed I said you Broadway She's now a four-time Tony winner. Aaron Dardarian's up, and he's in Trobucco Canyon, California. He came in with 333.33. He's our old buddy. He's probably a baron. Been around. Thank you for an outstanding product, he writes. Jobs karma for my wife, please. And we got jobs. Didn't he do the cutting boards for us recently? That was Aaron, wasn't it?

2:22:20 I don't think so. Yeah, I think it was. I think he did the cutting boards. Yes. Yeah, I thought so. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. I mean while I'm sitting here slowly realizing that every major event of my life has been leading me to an inevitable and humiliating death. Andrew Glenn from Skelmorley. Oh, Skelmorley, that's in the United Kingdom. North Ayrshire comes in with 315.85, our last executive producer for today, but has a note that will take us a long time to read.

2:23:05 I first started listening to NOAJENDA around 2009. Then in early 2010, it was on your show that I first heard Nigel Farage's famous damp rag speech to the then EU president Herman van Rompuy. It was barely covered at all by the UK media at the time. This then confirmed what I long suspected about the media on both sides of the Atlantic and to hear you guys laying out the hypocrisies, omissions, deceits and biases so clearly has been both entertaining and useful. Listening to no agenda over the years has put me ahead of the curve on so many issues since then compared to my friends Who would never admit this and who still think me some something of a crackpot?

2:23:44 I really appreciate your coverage of Europe and the UK in particular, especially now as we in Gitmo Nation East are really under the kosh, kosh being a reference to a policeman's truncheon, in terms of freedom of speech, where an inappropriate tweet can get you three years in jail. I'll send you suitable material when I find it to help you tell the world of our predicament. Your business model is amazing for we producers, though I appreciate that it must have entailed a huge risk for you both. But you have stuck with Value for Value over the years despite giving your respective talents, no doubt having missed out on many more lucrative opportunities. Yes, microphones, holo books. Thanks for that. So I feel slightly ashamed that it has taken me this long to reach knighthood. I shall be known as, it's scrolled off here,

2:24:35 I shall be known as Commodore Sir Andrew Glenn of Skellmorely, Knight of the Dropped Note, a reference to my occasionally erratic musicianship. At the round table, I'd like to request a fresh, crusty Bloomerloaf. What is a bloomer loaf? I have no idea. I think it means a balloon bread. With unsalted butter and a jar of Bovril. Bovril, you may remember from your time in the UK, Adam, is essentially what you end up with if you boil a cow for long enough. Most consider this a thick black goo as the basis for a winter drink or bouillon, but I love it spread on bread.

2:25:12 Those Brits. I believe it is not readily available in the US, but thankfully the legend has it the roundtable is in Tintagel, England. It is actually available in the US. Yes, best wishes. So I actually do have the latest crazy English police clip. Did you see this? Is this the one about it's illegal to tell somebody to speak English? Yes, that's the one. It may be, I tried to filter it, but in essence a Metro police cop is questioning a citizen for having insulted another citizen by saying Speak English.

2:26:07 So I couldn't see them, could you? No, that's fine. And that's why we've just come to speak, because potentially someone could perceive that as a hate crime. And that's the kicker. It can be seen as a hate crime. So a hate crime to say, speak English. So the thing is... What is wrong with these people? And the fact that these police can do this with a straight face? Yes, it's really quite nuts. The thing that's so crazy is apparently you can just say, you can just call the cops and say, I feel insulted. That's what drives me crazy about it. You can just say, I feel insulted and then that's enough. Like how does that make any sense? There's no written law. It's just if you make someone feel bad, then that is a hate crime.

2:27:08 It's insane. It's insane. So I feel you. I feel you future Knight. And let's do another Scott Simon. Support for NPR comes from the Holloway Institute for... Oh, what happened there? Never mind. Keep going. I'll come back. That ending is quite good too, by the way. Yeah, we'll play it at the end. We'll play it at the end. Eli the coffee guy comes up already. Yeah. In the fourth slot. in Bensonville, Illinois, 2004-13. And of course, you've had a lot of coffee today, I can tell. Yeah, rock and roll. You're ornery. Ornery. Been a strange week in the markets with more turbulence to come, he writes, but hey, it's to be expected with the current economic uncertainty.

2:28:03 A chaos. Upside is coffee is down from all-time market highs. There may be uncertainty in the market, but one thing you can be certain of is that gigawatt coffee roasters, which makes a phenomenal fresh roasted coffee that's economical and delicious, use code ITM20 at the checkout for 20% off your first order. Stay caffeinated, Eli the Coffee Guy. Jingles don't trust China. Oh, that's interesting. Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! Of those who truly deserve it. Support also comes from the Oswald Dupree Association of Retards. Dedicated to a future where we put every retard to good use. I forgot about that part.

2:28:56 Finally, we have Linda Lou Patkin always coming in here to support the show and support her business, which seems to be going quite well. She's in Lakewood, Colorado, but that doesn't matter where she is because you can reach her very simply for... A competitive edge with a resume that gets results and of course she wants jobs, Karma. She says if you want that resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got it, Karma.

2:29:35 Yes, don't worry, I'll put the Scott Simon full clip into the show notes. You'll be able to grab a copy of that. Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers. Those of you who are here, we really appreciate you. especially our brand new Boob Instantite. We'll be instant-iting you later on. Lots at the round table, and of course we'll be thanking $50 and above in our second segment. And as always, you can go to noagendadonations.com. That's where you can set, you can do all kinds of different donations. We love numerology. You're starting to come up with new ones. Keep that up. It's always fun to try and figure out what your donation numerology means. Noagendadonations.com, that is noagendadonations.com.

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

RFK Jr. Autism Investigation, FDA Official Rebuttal

HHS Secretary RFK Jr. announced a massive research effort to identify the environmental causes of the autism epidemic by September. On CBS's Face the Nation, a former FDA official and architect of Operation Warp Speed dismissed the timeline as "false hope" and defended the safety of current vaccine schedules. The segment critiques the media's reliance on "big pharma" mouthpieces to discredit investigations into environmental toxins.

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2:30:18 Thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Um, so I have some Bobby the Op news. Oh, okay. Yes, let me see. You know, so, uh, you, you saw the, uh,

2:30:55 You saw the cabinet meeting, and Bobby the op made his announcement which turned into a little piece here. Although this piece was quite interesting, and then I have some analysis from Margaret Brennan from this morning, along with some doctor. But this is in essence what he's promising. This morning, a commitment to find possible causes of autism within six months. By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures. Health Secretary RFK Jr. promising during the president's cabinet meeting that he will find out why autism rates are rising. We've launched a massive testing

2:31:41 and research effort that's going to involve hundreds of scientists from around the world. In 2000, about one out of every 150 children was diagnosed with autism. Today, the CDC says it's one in every 36. RFK says the numbers are closer to 1 in 31. That's a horrible statistic, isn't it? And there's got to be something artificial out there that's doing this. Experts say some of the increase is due to more awareness and a broader definition of autism spectrum disorder. It is possible that a yet unknown factor can also be contributing to the rise, but research thus far shows genetics and advanced maternal age can potentially increase the risk.

2:32:21 To come together and say that we're just gonna get a bunch of scientists together and get an answer by September, that seems a little far-fetched. I will say a lot of good can happen when the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal. RFK By the way, this is quite funny. It's like now everyone's saying, well you can't do that, be a scientist. Whatever happened to 97% of all scientists believe carbon dioxide contributes to man-made global warming? Now all of a sudden that doesn't count when it comes to Bobby the Op? When the scientific community comes together and collaborates with a unified goal. RFK, long a vaccine skeptic, has raised questions about a possible link between the measles vaccine and autism. Uh, lie.

2:33:05 I don't think he's ever said the measles vaccine. In fact, he said quite the opposite. He said too many childhood vaccines is a possibility. I don't think he's ever singled out the measles vaccine. But it's okay because, you know, it's just news. Between the measles vaccine and autism, despite dozens of high quality studies refuting the claim. High quality studies! Kennedy has tapped a previously discredited vaccine skeptic, David Geier, as a senior data analyst. There is some worry that there could be some bias or this research may not be responsibly looking for a correct cause. RFK did not offer details on how the research will be conducted, but says the National Institutes of Health will oversee it and look into everything. Now, I will say that for sure the DSM-5

2:34:01 broadened the spectrum of autism. So definitely there's an increase in the numbers because, you know, oh he's got Tourette's, autism. Oh he's been quiet this week, autism. There's a lot of that but there's just, I mean even Robert De Niro had a whole documentary about his kid who got autism coincidentally after he got a whole bunch of vaccinations as a kid but of course he had to pull that from his own film festival because that was the wrong narrative. So now we go to CBS, Face the Nation, Margaret Renan with a doctor. Many parents. Who is the former, what is he, he's former FBI

2:34:39 FDA dude. Probably no ASD diagnosis rates are on the increase in this country. The CDC says the current numbers are 1 in 36 American children. This is a very broad spectrum of neurodevelopmental disorders. There's no established cause. On Thursday, the HHS Secretary Kennedy said he's got hundreds of scientists from around the world working on it. And he promised this. By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures. That gives tremendous hope to a lot of people. Do you know anything about that ongoing research?

2:35:18 I know a minimal amount of effort that's been going on to try to relook at prior autism research, but I'm not aware of what is being discussed there. I cared for leukemia patients for a significant number of years. What? What does that have to do with the price of bread? What? I don't know. It was like this weird switcheroo. Yeah, well I cared for leukemia patients. But real important stuff, not this RFK Jr. nonsense. Giving people false hope is something you should never do. Oh, that's the connection. Yeah, false hope. I care for a lot of leukemia patients and giving people false hope is not good because it causes issues.

2:36:07 That's not what we're talking about. Nobody's giving anybody false hope about anything. They're trying to figure out what started it. There's always hope, and I have seen miraculous cures take place in kids who I know personally. Cured from leukemia. Cancer-free! It does happen, doctor. It is something you should never do. It is absolutely... You can be incredibly supportive of people. Wait a minute, stop. It's still beside the point. I don't care if anyone's... cured for any reason whatsoever. False hope and finding what causes autism is a false equivalency. Yes. That's not the same. Who cares about false hope one way or the other? Okay, so it does work. He's looking for a reason that this is happening. What is this doctor talking about? Well, I think he's trying to discredit Bobby. Well, he's doing a crappy job of it.

2:36:58 But giving them false hope is wrong. If you just ask me as a scientist, is it possible to get the answer that quickly? I don't see any possible way. And remember, you're talking to the person who came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines. Autism is an incredibly complicated issue. Wait a minute. This guy came up with Operation Warp Speed for vaccines. This is the guy? Well, isn't that interesting? You may want to change your voice. Yes, I came up with Operation Warp Speed. You don't think you want to be broadcasting that, bruh? So we have the issue of diagnosis bias. We don't know how many of those cases are true. How much of this is true growth of autism? How much of this is just that we now have diagnostic criteria? Okay, so here, hold on. Stop. What was Operation Warp Speed designed to do?

2:37:59 to ram through an unproven gene therapy disguised as a vaccine to save people from a cold. It was to develop a vaccine that gave people hope. And what is the fear of all the vaccine manufacturers about autism? That somehow these vaccines especially the 80 that they now give kids instead of the five or six when I was a kid. Yeah The troll room has other ideas. It was to call the elderly Well, there's that we're gonna ignore all that but the point is this guy is a

2:38:36 mouthpiece for the vaccine people. So he is not going to do anything that's going to encourage Bobby Kennedy in any way, shape or form if there's even a suspicion that this is going to be traced back to vaccinations. So this guy is a bad actor who should not even be on the Brennan Show. Well, imagine that. Imagine the mainstream media putting on someone to defend the big pharmas. The president of the United States said something artificial is causing autism rates to go up. On Thursday he said, maybe you stop taking something. You stop eating something.

2:39:11 Or maybe it's a shot. Did he say that? Did he say that? Yeah, he did. Trump said it. Wow, wow, wow. But something's causing it. Right after that, RFK appeared, the HHS secretary appeared on Fox News and dismissed 14 studies that have shown no link between autism and vaccines. He said it is an epidemic. Epidemics are not caused by genes. Genes can provide a vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin. So we know that it is an environmental toxin that is causing this cataclysm and we are going to identify it. Well, that sounds reasonable. Is there scientific evidence ruling out genetics as a cause of ASD? Oh, this is good. This is so good. What do you think his answer is?

2:40:00 Well, he's gonna have to deflect from away from vaccination. So yes, deny to be Denied deflect and defund or something. Let's see what he says. There's no there's no scientific evidence ruling out genetics In fact, there is data that has been published that say that genetics may contribute to autism There are It's the data that suggests that perhaps environmental factors may, but one has to be incredibly careful, incredibly careful about making associations between environmental factors and autism. There's a wonderful graphic that shows that Coca-Cola increase goes along with the increase in autism.

2:40:47 What? He just threw big food under the bus. He just threw Coca-Cola under the bus. Hey, hey, dude, dude, dude, hold on a second. You know, we have Coke as an advertiser. Could you please calm it down a little bit over there? But there's also a wonderful graphic that you can find online that shows that the increase in spending on organic food also goes along with the rise in autism. Hey, hey, the Whole Foods account is in jeopardy. Stop him, Margaret. False causality. Scientists do not want to find false causality. We want to find true causality. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

2:41:29 One more clip here from this jumoker. It stood out to us that Secretary Kennedy has hired someone named David Geyer to conduct analysis of the links between autism and vaccines. He was charged by the state of Maryland in 2011 with practicing medicine without a license. That was weeks after his father's medical license was suspended for putting autistic children at risk by giving them a hormone blocking agent. Wow, you mean like a trans operation? I mean, gender affirming health care? So what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do? Wow, she's so dramatic about this. She, you know, this woman should be off the air. No, no, no.

2:42:20 I mean, you want NPR to shut down, PBS to shut down, Margaret Brennan to get off the air. Yes, I want them to put us out of business. Well, okay, you better get those hollow books ready. So what should the public know or expect from the work that he will do for the US government? So all I can say is I would not concede he's to the best of my knowledge He's not had any training after college in Any of the sciences that we value here what I think we can expect

2:42:57 You mean like medical school? Is that what he means? Training after college? Is that what that means? So he didn't go to medicine? He specifically says sciences that we value. Oh. Any of the... So like genetic studies or... Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, okay. Whatever they value. The sciences that we value here, what I think we can expect is the expected. That there will be an association determined between vaccines and autism. Because it's already been determined. This is not how science is conducted Wow, yeah, I said predetermined. Yeah, cuz that would have had more impact He should have said it's already been predetermined because that has an on onerous sound to it as opposed to determined Yeah, he screwed up. Yeah, he's gonna get a memo on this from Pfizer. Oh

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

HHS Grant Clawbacks, Vaccine Clinic Cancellations

The Trump administration is moving to claw back $11 billion in unspent public health grants originally issued during the COVID-19 pandemic. This has led to the cancellation of mobile vaccine clinics in several states, including Arizona and Nevada. Public health officials express concern that the loss of funding will impact other services, such as home visits for pregnant women and community health outreach.

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2:43:47 Hey dude. I have two HHS clips. Hey dude. Hey dude. Hey dude. Watch your language. Hey dude. Yeah, exactly. HHS late cutbacks. Trump administration officials stunned local health departments across the country when they announced in March that they wanted to take back $11 billion in public health grants. Jackie Fortier with our partner KFF Health News reports. Local health departments have relied on the money from the Department of Health and Human Services for years. The grants began during the pandemic, but could be used for other health issues such as mental illness, addiction and infectious diseases. We're going to cancel 18 vaccine clinics. That's Teresa Cullen. She's director of Arizona's Pima County Health Department. The department lost $1 million in the clawbacks.

2:44:38 HHS spokesperson Bianca Rodriguez Feliciano said the department wants the money back because the COVID pandemic is over. The judge has temporarily blocked the cuts in some states including Arizona after a group of state attorneys general's used to the money. You can't take that away. You gave it to us during COVID. But Cullen says Arizona state officials told her to stop the work the money was paying for. We've eliminated two and a half months of the provision of care. Other states including Texas, Minnesota and Washington also canceled vaccine clinics they had on the calendar.

2:45:13 In Washoe County, Nevada, the surprise cuts mean two contract staffers will be let go. Their job is setting up and marketing vaccination events, including for state-mandated back-to-school shots for illnesses such as measles. Okay, when I was a kid, back to school meant you got a new eraser and a new pencil and a sharpener and maybe a pencil case. I don't remember back to school shots. Back to school shots. Hey kids, it's time for your back to school shots. Lisa Lautritz is director of clinical health services for the area. She's canceling community vaccine drives that were scheduled to start this summer. Without that team, I won't be able to do it because our core team can't be in two places at once. But I don't understand what did they do before COVID? What were they doing?

2:46:07 I don't know. I guess they weren't doing any of this bullcrap. Well, what shots are do you need when you go back to school? COVID shots? Well, probably flu. Which now turns out there's a really good Campbell clip. I retweeted it on Twitter. A good what? That Dr. Campbell guy, that British guy, The British guy who comes out and he shows a bunch of studies and shows, you know, how something doesn't work. And the latest is that you get 26% better chance of getting the flu if you got the shot. Oh, yay. This year is way up, way up. So you're going to get the flu for sure if you get the shot. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Uh, it's part two of this. I think that core team of nurses doesn't have time to run the local clinic and do the setup for community events, community events.

2:46:56 What is going on here? You don't need a community event. What are you doing, like a cornhole? But what is your community event? It's like potluck dinner. That means they will no longer be out and about offering shots at churches and senior centers. Okay, come to Fredericksburg. Please stand in front of our church and offer shots. Shots. That'll be funny. Free shots. Free shots. Yeah, you get shot all right. Instead, she says, patients will have to make an effort to come to them.

2:47:33 Oh no! Won't somebody please think of the children? Bam! Oh John, very good, very good. And you were worried I was gonna mess it up, but it worked out. That was a God moment. Perfect. Someone that doesn't have insurance or doesn't have access to health care, they're gonna be the ones that suffer from the cuts. This isn't the first time in her 30-year career that Lautritz has dealt with the loss of funding, but she says her community is sicker now because of budget cuts over a decade ago. For example, a local grant that paid for home visits to pregnant women was eliminated. More babies in the county are being born with syphilis, which Lautritz says could be prevented if that program was still around.

2:48:16 I know. I said the same thing. Wait a minute, do we now need syphilis shots? Like vaccines? Well, it used to have, they used to go around door to door, but now that they've stopped going around door to door, more babies are being born with syphilis. Wow. What the hell's that all about? Wow. That's some, that's, I thought I had a fear mongering clip lined up. This, I mean, you, you know what? I got to tell you, That series was definitely worth it. Thank you very much. Definitely worth it. Good. Very... Okay, here was going to be my now, in comparison, pathetic fear-mongering clip. So, it's from NBC.

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Hantavirus Pandemic Potential, Virginia Tech Research

Researchers at Virginia Tech are warning of the "pandemic potential" of Hantavirus, a respiratory disease spread through rodent droppings. While the virus has a high mortality rate for those who develop severe symptoms, the "fear-mongering" nature of the report is criticized. The study links the spread of the virus to warmer winters and climate trends that increase rodent populations.

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2:49:01 I'm sad. I mean, well not I'm happy for the show, but man. In other health news, researchers with Virginia Tech are warning of a disease they say has pandemic potential. What could that be? What is it? I like the alliteration, pandemic potential. It's too long, but it would have been a show title. Pandemic potential. What do you think has pandemic potential? What disease did we recently hear about in the news that we hadn't heard of for years but now all of a sudden has pandemic potential? Well, first of all, I mean the real one would be bird flu but it's probably measles. It's called Hantavirus. You may have heard about it recently.

2:49:46 I should have guessed that one. Easy, easy, easy. It's called Hantavirus. You may have heard about it recently. It's an infection that killed Gene Hackman's wife and it also caused three deaths in California recently. The virus is commonly spread throughout rodent droppings and urine or saliva and can cause serious illness in humans. How can that be? How can that? Does it transfer from human to human? How can it have pandemic potential if you get it from rat poop? This is this is that's a good guess a question that well that obviously as we as you play that clip Whoever's doing the thing will ask that question because there's journalism involved Well, it comes at the end illness in humans primarily affecting the lungs early symptoms include fatigue fever muscle aches and

2:50:33 Similar to symptoms of the flu, but late symptoms can include coughing and shortness of breath. 38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease. Now, this, so this is very tricky what she did here. So you can develop respiratory system symptoms Just like the flu, 38% of people who develop those symptoms can die from it because... May, oh wait wait, may die. But she says, but she's saying from, she's making it sound like you're dying from the virus. No. You're dying from pneumonia. Yeah, you're dying from pneumonia, which is very dangerous. But she's making it sound like rat poop is like 38% of people die from rat poop. Shortness of breath, 38% of people who develop these respiratory symptoms may die from the disease. Now researchers found three hot spots of Hantavirus circulation in wildlife. One of those is Virginia. 15 rodent species were identified as carriers.

2:51:32 including six species that hadn't previously been hosts. Now this is significant because some of those species live in regions where traditional hosts do not, meaning there's more potential for the virus to spread quicker than thought. Now researchers are also able to get a better understanding of seasonal and climate trends like warmer winters leading to increased warming populations and drier conditions like increasing the risk of spreading contaminated dust. The researchers plan now to further explore how changes in the climate can influence Hanta virus transmission and you can reduce your risk of contracting the virus by eliminating or minimizing contact with rodents.

2:52:11 Stop touching rats. Kids don't touch rat poop. Minimize your risk. You think that the people that take the subway in New York City would be the most susceptible. There's more movies of hordes of rats now currently. How come not one person in New York has gotten honta? Because it's bull crap. It's bull crap. The whole thing is bull crap. And then remember, Remember measles because we have all these anti-vaxxers in America, these stupid stupid religious freaks who don't want MMR. How about the Canadians? Would you say Canadians are compliant human beings who do what they're told with some grumbling? They grumble. They always grumble. Yeah, they will do what they're told but they will complain. So they take their shots? Do they take their shots? Do you think Canadians take their shots? I would hope so.

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Ontario Measles Outbreak, Hospital Exposure Warnings

A significant measles outbreak in Ontario, Canada, has resulted in 34 hospitalizations and hundreds of confirmed cases. Public health officials in St. Thomas are urging vaccination as exposures are reported within hospital settings. The segment notes the irony of people potentially contracting the virus while visiting medical facilities for other reasons.

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2:51:32 including six species that hadn't previously been hosts. Now this is significant because some of those species live in regions where traditional hosts do not, meaning there's more potential for the virus to spread quicker than thought. Now researchers are also able to get a better understanding of seasonal and climate trends like warmer winters leading to increased warming populations and drier conditions like increasing the risk of spreading contaminated dust. The researchers plan now to further explore how changes in the climate can influence Hanta virus transmission and you can reduce your risk of contracting the virus by eliminating or minimizing contact with rodents.

2:52:11 Stop touching rats. Kids don't touch rat poop. Minimize your risk. You think that the people that take the subway in New York City would be the most susceptible. There's more movies of hordes of rats now currently. How come not one person in New York has gotten honta? Because it's bull crap. It's bull crap. The whole thing is bull crap. And then remember, Remember measles because we have all these anti-vaxxers in America, these stupid stupid religious freaks who don't want MMR. How about the Canadians? Would you say Canadians are compliant human beings who do what they're told with some grumbling? They grumble. They always grumble. Yeah, they will do what they're told but they will complain. So they take their shots? Do they take their shots? Do you think Canadians take their shots? I would hope so.

2:53:08 Well, explain this to me. The number of measles cases is skyrocketing in Ontario. We've had 34 hospitalizations associated with this outbreak and that's included two people who have required care in an intensive care unit. 470 cases have been confirmed to public health Ontario as of March 19th. The largest numbers are predominantly in the southern part of the province, with Southwestern Public Health reporting 223 cases and Grand Erie Public Health reporting 111 cases. People living in those areas, including the City of St. Thomas, are worried about the growing spread. People that don't want to get vaccinated and I don't understand that because it saves a lot of lives. My grandkids are older so they're not really affected. They have their shots.

2:53:54 I'd be concerned if they were babies. A number of measles exposures have been reported here at St. Thomas Elgin General Hospital since the beginning of February. Public health officials say other people who visited around the same time need to be aware of these warnings because they can get infected even hours later after the infected person left. There are cases right across the country, most in people who aren't vaccinated. Because Because public health officials here don't know when the peak of this measles outbreak will happen, it's full steam ahead to reach out and encourage people to get vaccinated who have not already done so. So it sounds to me like people are getting the measles at the hospital. It's the measles. Oh, people.

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US-Iran Nuclear Talks, Oman Mediation

The U.S. and Iran have initiated indirect nuclear negotiations in Muscat, Oman, with Omani officials acting as intermediaries. President Trump's Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, is leading the American delegation. The talks aim to address Iran's uranium enrichment, which has reached 60% purity, while Iran seeks relief from economic sanctions.

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2:54:39 I could do another boomer moment, but we've done that enough about the measles. Yeah, I think you got the boomer thing out of the way. Yeah. Well, it's never out of my blood now that I've accepted, I've just accepted the boomerism into my life. Yeah, you kind of relaxed into it. I have to because, you know, it's like I hear people come up to me and say, Hey man, chill out. I'm a millennial. No, I'm Gen X. My kids call me boomer. It's just what it is. And then I beat them and take away their allowance. Stupid. Boomer okay boomer. I'm okay with it now. I wear it as a badge of pride I wanted to go back to international stuff here for a second. Okay, but I will give you a five-minute warning Oh, thank you. Yeah, let's start with Iran Iran Iran talk Yeah That is kind of important to talk about today the US and Iran launched a new effort to negotiate a deal to best scale back Iran's nuclear program in his first term President Trump pulled the US out of an existing nuclear agreement with Iran and

2:55:37 and now believes he can negotiate a better one. For more, we are joined by NPR national security correspondent Greg Myrie. Hey, Greg. Hey, Scott. Hey, Greg. Hey, Scott. So what do we know about this initial round of talks today? So the two sides held talks for more than two hours in Oman's capital, Muscat, and the discussions were mediated by Oman. Now, this was just a get-acquainted session. The sides are laying out some basics, a framework for the talks, and we know the key issues here. What will the limits be on Iran's nuclear program and to what extent will Iran get relief from the tough sanctions imposed by the US? But the mere fact that they met is certainly something unusual and the White House called the talks quote positive and constructive. Iran struck a similar tone and they agreed to meet again in a week.

2:56:26 Let's try to sort out one possible gap between the sides. Iran called these indirect talks. The Trump administration called them direct talks. Which one is it? Well, Scott, both it seems. The two sides were physically apart at this Oman government compound and Oman's foreign minister shuttled between them. So indirect talks. But at the end of the session, the leaders of the two delegations met and spoke briefly. We're talking about Steve Whitcoff, Trump's Middle East envoy, and Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Aghrachi. So it was also direct negotiations or at least something both sides can live with. He's characterizing that kind of in an odd way because from what I understand, they write a note

2:57:13 Then the Oman guy takes it over to the Iranian guys, hands of the note, they write a note back. It's like high school. And then he takes it back and then he gives it to Witkoff. There are no direct communications. It's all notes being passed back and forth. Yeah, well... Why? Probably some agreement. Language barrier. They can't speak the same language, probably has a lot to do with it. Oh yeah, I'm worried. Let's rewind a decade, Greg. The US and Iran reached this nuclear agreement in 2015 under President Obama. Trump comes into office the first time around, says it was a bad deal, pulls out in 2018. How would this deal be different? Yeah, that's the key question. Since Trump was so dismissive of that earlier agreement, he'll want one that he can present as much better.

2:58:03 But the world has changed. Iran has now enriched uranium to a much higher level, about 60 percent purity, not quite the level needed for a nuclear weapon, which is around 90 percent purity, but close to it, something they could get to pretty quickly. The US will have to win concessions just to get back to the point where we were in 2018 when Trump unilaterally withdrew. Meanwhile, Iran is vulnerable right now. Its economy is very weak. Its military suffered setbacks last year in missile exchanges with Israel. So it could be more willing to make compromises. Iran says it wants to keep the talks narrowly focused on the nuclear program. Trump and his team have spoken of broader goals, for example, ending Iran's support of proxy groups in the region.

2:58:50 How do these negotiations with Iran fit with Trump's broader goals in the Middle East right now? So Trump has been very clear that he wants to avoid endless conflict in the Middle East and a nuclear deal with Iran would certainly meet that goal, should certainly ease the tensions. But at the same time, Trump has been ramping up US military involvement in the Middle East. Today, in fact, marks four weeks since the US began a daily bombing campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, a group that Iran supports. and the presence of an American aircraft carrier in the Red Sea off Yemen and a powerful B-2 bombers on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that far away, is also seen as a warning to nearby Iran. Most analysts believe Trump is unlikely to resort to force at this stage. They point to these nuclear discussions, but the president keeps warning that if negotiations don't succeed, military force remains an option.

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EU Defense Spending, Warsaw Security Meeting

EU economic ministers met in Warsaw to discuss mobilizing funds for defense and security amid rising geopolitical tensions. Proposals include allowing member states to incur more debt for military investment and using public pension funds to support the war economy. The move is framed as a way to boost competitiveness and job creation within the bloc.

european union· warsaw· defense spending· poland· nato

2:59:51 And meanwhile in Europe they have this, the clip is the war clip at the bottom of the list, their war meeting in Warsaw. EU economic ministers have wrapped up a two-day meeting in Poland focused on how to mobilize more money for defense at a time of economic uncertainty. Tara Schultz reports US tariffs on the EU are adding to the bloc's difficulties. EU economic and finance ministers met in Warsaw to discuss new ways the bloc is offering to help the 27 member states invest more in their own security. These include suspending the penalties governments incur for going into too much debt and offering loans backed by the EU itself as long as the money is spent on defense.

3:00:35 EU economy commissioner Valdez-Dombrovsky says such investment will pay off in other ways too. Beyond enhancing Europe's security, we expect additional defense spending to also boost competitiveness and economic growth, drive innovation and create jobs. Dombrowsky says the 25% tariffs on EU steel and aluminum exports that President Trump has left in place will hurt the US more than the EU. Oh, of course. Of course, of course it'll hurt the US more. So they're gonna go into debt for war. Yeah. Heaven forbid you go into debt to save, you know, to feed people. From what I understand, 10 billion of it they want to take out of the public coffers like pensions. Don't worry. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna invest it in the war economy. It's gonna be great. Now, typically, a war economy is good.

3:01:23 You know, you get people back into factories, you get back into Volkswagen and Audi factories. But yeah, you'll saddle your children up with debt. We know how that works. Yeah, I... It adds up. I'm still very concerned about Germany and France, particularly Macron. I mean, I'm going to have, hopefully I'll have a bit of an expose about Macron being the true antichrist. I'm working on it. He's a loser as an Antichrist, let me tell you. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda, morning. Yes, well in general the Antichrist is not supposed to be the winner.

3:02:10 I think Lady Gaga's got a better shot at it. She's just one of Satan's helpers. It's a different deal. We have end of show mixes, meetups, including a meetup report, and several nights and dames. It's been a very good day for the roundtable, so lots of tasty goods for everybody who is hanging out with us, and of course, John's tip of the day. But first, we are going to thank the rest of our producers who supported us with some treasure, $50 and above. Yeah, sorry, with Arthur Gobitz there in Zandam, Holland, $105. He's got a nice little note for you. It's written in Dutch. Yes, he said, this is very, yeah, he says, I'll translate on the fly. He says, a couple of shows back you told that your daughter is going to be moving to Zandam.

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Knighting Ceremony, Meetup Reports and Outro

The show concludes with a formal knighting ceremony for several high-value producers and their families. Meetup reports from Fort Wayne, Toronto, and Indianapolis are shared, encouraging listeners to connect locally. The hosts sign off from Fredericksburg, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, reminding the audience of the next broadcast on Thursday.

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3:01:23 You know, you get people back into factories, you get back into Volkswagen and Audi factories. But yeah, you'll saddle your children up with debt. We know how that works. Yeah, I... It adds up. I'm still very concerned about Germany and France, particularly Macron. I mean, I'm going to have, hopefully I'll have a bit of an expose about Macron being the true antichrist. I'm working on it. He's a loser as an Antichrist, let me tell you. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda, morning. Yes, well in general the Antichrist is not supposed to be the winner.

3:02:10 I think Lady Gaga's got a better shot at it. She's just one of Satan's helpers. It's a different deal. We have end of show mixes, meetups, including a meetup report, and several nights and dames. It's been a very good day for the roundtable, so lots of tasty goods for everybody who is hanging out with us, and of course, John's tip of the day. But first, we are going to thank the rest of our producers who supported us with some treasure, $50 and above. Yeah, sorry, with Arthur Gobitz there in Zandam, Holland, $105. He's got a nice little note for you. It's written in Dutch. Yes, he said, this is very, yeah, he says, I'll translate on the fly. He says, a couple of shows back you told that your daughter is going to be moving to Zandam.

3:02:57 I just wanted to say that she is very welcome and as far as Sander and I, they're both from Zonda, I'm both producers, if there's anything they need, any help they want, we are here for them. Sir Hugger of Kitties, I love that. You know, you cannot get to a guy's heart faster than by saying you'll take care of his daughter in any way. I appreciate it. There you go. Yeah, that's very cool. I appreciate it. Brian Keefe in the Sierra Vista, Arizona 100. William Galt, Naples, Florida 100. This is a switcheroo for my dearly departed wife, sorry, Nancy Daschner. She would have been 64 today. Oh goodness. Way too young.

3:03:46 Yes, I would say so. Sir, Kubalapedia. And he's in Wisata, Minnesota. Used to be a famous place for CDs. 99.99, happy birthday to myself. Kathleen Cochran in Niskayuna, you ever heard of that? No. Niskayuna. I've heard of Niskayuna. New York, 85 bucks. I've heard of it. Ah, there he is, Kevin McLaughlin. He's down there at 8008. He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and lover of boobs. Chris Perry, Silver Spring, Maryland, 7777. Nice. Here's one you can read this because it's Robin Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas, 7373, 7373. That's a double,

3:04:38 Happy birthday and a night ham radio donation and a night this birthday donation for John puts me over the line for Dame hood Please Robin is Robin is a team. Please Dave me Commodore Tolbert Dame early turtle of the guests of Maine Gethsemane Swamp. I'd like stir-fry and matcha tea. Stir-fry and matcha tea? Gethsemane? Mommy? Money? I thought it was Gethsemane. Is that wrong? It's Gethsemane. Oh, well, whatever. Who knows? Well, I need to know because I'm about to pronouncicate her. I don't... somebody in the troll room knows how to pronounce it.

3:05:20 Well, I'm waiting and no one's still that's gonna take a while it takes five seconds at least for them to hear the message Let alone type. Okay. Hold on a second. She asked for a jingle here, which I hadn't seen Okay, what does she ask for here? She says for jingles, please play there's no winning goodness gracious It's true. I hadn't seen any of this pop It's that's true. It's that's true. It's not it's true. It's that's true. That's true. Where's this true? That's true Yes, that's true and yeah karma. Oh, man. Okay a lot of stuff to do here. Okay? Oh, there's no winning We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret That's true wrong one. You've got sorry

3:06:12 I tried. You tried. Baron Rob is up. He's in Leiden, Holland. 7373 salute you at the Leiden meetup. That's nice. April 17th. This meetup must be great. April 17th. Ryan, uh, Tepperton, I think. I think so. Tepperton in Burnsville, Minnesota. 7373. Another happy birthday. John Fuller in Colorado Springs, another 73-73, happy birthday. We're late to the party, but wishing John the best birthday in the universe. Mark Rudolph in Kalkaska, Michigan, 64-46, which is a Boomer donation. Yes, it is. There's the Boomers. The only one. Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, which is small boobs at 6-0-0-6. Christopher Dector, 56-78.

3:07:12 Freddie Viera in Granbury, Texas, 5413. And he wishes a happy birthday to Samantha Viera from Freddie and JCV. Spencer Jaffe in Rancho Palos Verdes, 5272. Richard Lindquist, 5272. And now we got already at the $50 donors, we're only 20 in or so. Devin Rogers in Sacramento, Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia, Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York, Tom DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania, David Montoya, Marble Falls.

3:07:57 Texas, Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California, Brandon Savoie, Port Orchard, Washington, Beth Bradshaw in Ladson, South Carolina, Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Kenil Patelia in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, Sir John of DMF in DMF, I don't know where that is, Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland, and last on our extremely short list here of a total of 35 people,

3:08:37 Allen Bean, Baron Allen Bean in Beaverton, Oregon. I want to thank all these people for show 1755. Indeed. Thank you all very much and thank you everybody who came in under $50. We will not read anything under 50 so you're guaranteed your anonymity but also that's where we find a lot of people who have been kind enough to set up a recurring donation. You think you have one, go and check. They do get canceled suddenly around, certainly around the beginning of the year and towards tax time for some unexpected reason. Go to noagendadonations.com. If you haven't set one up, then why don't you do one today? It could be any amount, any frequency. It's up to you. It is all value for value. Go to noagendadonations.com.

3:09:22 And celebrating in just two days Sir Kupal Kupalpedia on April 15th. Sir Andy and Dame Kylie wish their daughter Lucilla a happy birthday. She'll be turning 17. And Freddie and JCV wish Samantha Vieira a happy birthday. And of course we also say happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Now we have a couple of Dame notes, so we got Dame note from Not a Serial Killer Kate who got this Daming donated to her and she says my friend Darth Penguin completed my Dame hood And I would like to join the roundtable I would like to be known as Dame not a serial killer Kate Prosciutto and pepper jack cheese at the roundtable please noted and done and

3:10:07 And then we have Lucas Williams who has been donating $100 a month every month since August 14, 2021. And upon my upcoming payment of April 14th, that is tomorrow, I will have provided value for value in the amount of $4,500. Holy cow, that's what I call sustaining donation. Thank you so much. He says money well spent I request you bestow four knighthoods upon me and my family Please knight me sir Lucas foe of the People's Republic of New Mexico my wife Dame Carla keeper of the beast my firstborn Dame Avery, Slayer of Giants, and my daughter Zoe, Dame Zoe, Civilizer of Men. Collectively, we request Pecos, Valley Green, Chili, and Strong Martinis for the roundtable. Please keep up the good work. Very truly yours, Lucas Williams." So absolutely, thank you very much. And let's get these people up to the roundtable.

3:11:01 You need a big blade for this whole family, Johnson. I got a big blade. You got a very big blade. Alright, so Lucas Williams, uh, Darth Penguin, Andrew Glenn, uh, Dame Kate, Kate, Carla Williams, oh my goodness, we got so many, Avery Williams, Zoe Williams, and Robert Tolbert. All of you are now dames and knights of the Noah Dinner Round Table. I'm very proud to pronounce the KB in the following manner. Dame not a serial killer Kate Dame Carla keeper of the beast Dame Avery slayer of Giants Dame Zoe civilizer of men Dame early turtle of the get some Annie swamp sir Lucas for the People's Republic of New Mexico

3:11:44 Sir Darth Penguin of Loctucky, Sir Andrew Glenn of Skell Morley, Knight of the Drop Note, and I ran out of tune, but I do have for you the Krusty Bloomer Loaf along with unsalted butter and a jar of Bovary, left-hand brewery milk stout, Nitro and Vito and Nick's Pizza with unsalted butter and a jar... we already got that one. Prosciutto and a pepper jack cheese, Pecos Valley green chili and strong martinis, and stir fry and matcha tea. Oh yeah, we got to hookers and blow and rent boys and chardonnay for the kids. It's always great. Kids love that. And of course, mutton and meat at the table while you're all munching around. Get your cell phone out of your hollow book and go to noagenderings.com. That's where you will see you have these beautiful rings. They're for knights and for dames. They're signet rings. So when you give us your address and ring size, which is available to measure on the website, send it to us and we'll send you the ring along with a

3:12:38 Stick of wax, actually two sticks of wax which you can use to seal your important correspondence with the signet ring and a certificate of authenticity. And once again, welcome to the round table, the Noah-Jinnah Knights and Dames and congratulations. Noah-Jinnah Beat-Ups! Yeah, but wait the fun doesn't stop there. We've got the no agenda meetups. These are producer organized gatherings. You can find that all at noagendameetups.com. We love it when you send in a report. Here's one from Fort Wayne. Adam and John, this is Shannon from Fort Wayne. We had a decent gathering today. We had a lot of like-minded folks. Happy birthday, JCD. Sir, PBR Street Gang, in the morning, John and Adam, for some reason I've

3:13:20 developed a list and I don't know what's from. In the morning Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne looking forward to tomorrow in Indy. These end of show tips are worth their weight in gold. My first wife I met at a squared inch shindig, the next one I met at a sock hop. Bingo, boom shaka laka. Were you telling people as a tip of the day to meet their wives at a sock hop? I don't think so. We got a couple of meetups taking place today. Well underway in Toronto is the Granite Brewery, the Must Be High 16 meetup. The Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken meetup is underway at the Blind Isle Brewery in Indianapolis, Indiana. That's always a big one. They always send in a cool read-up report. Remember to include your servers in these meetup reports. You love hearing them and it helps spread good cheer.

3:14:05 We have the too many eggs dot-com keen, New Hampshire meetup, which is also underway margarita's Mexican restaurant keen, New Hampshire You can still get there on time. We have the tax day hangover meetup. That'll be on Thursday That's after tax day two days after tax day 630 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday monthly meetup seven o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina and the final one on Thursday the fifth amygdala check up 733 borrowed Amsterdam time, lokaal 1650 in Leiden, the Netherlands. Go to a meetup at least once, I guarantee you if you go once it won't be your last time. They're a lot of fun, you will have a lot of things in common and it is the connection that you get there that gives you protection. They are your first responders in an emergency.

3:14:51 There's so many telegram groups and text message groups and everybody likes to hang out and you'll meet some people maybe even your future night or day. Noagendameetups.com that's the calendar we can go and find one and if you can't find one there near you, you can start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a bomb I love my job and I love what I do Yeah, I discovered the mystery uh-oh ISO which we couldn't find. We didn't know what they were talking about in the last show. Yeah? That's actually your noisemaker. It has uh-oh. Oh, the uh-oh. Yeah, you have it.