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00:00 Most women kill their husbands by poisoning them. Wait a minute, I thought that was the Israelis who made it exploding sex toys. Well the Russians apparently are making exploding dildos

00:44 Oh, that could be annoying. It's a day wrecker! That could be rather annoying... Where did you get this tidbit from? Some story floating around. Oh okay. It was on a real news site. It was on a real news site. Okay that makes nothing but sense. A real- On the internet it must be true. Hey man happy birthday one day after the fact but happy happy birthday. Why thank you and did everyone come by and celebrate A lot of people did. Really? More than just the family? No, I'm talking about the meetup Oh yeah! How was that? That must have been fantastic how many people were there? I don't know you know they were scattered all over the place i'll tell you this that you know the pizza people the Violeta Pizza yes yeah that's where it was yeah and Violet of course is the trap baby that was notorious

01:42 They make a fabulous pizza. With the pineapple? You know, they didn't bring the pineapple one out which disappointed me but actually I don't even know if they have pineapple ones but it doesn't matter their pizzas are there it's just everything you'd want in a piece of the crust is perfect that did the sauce is terrific they use real cheeses and then and there's a big line this is supposedly their opening as our heart opening And there's like a, considering that no one has heard of this. You know the new one is the new place. Yeah he bought some property in part of Oakland that was industrial and uh there was a line of people waiting to buy pizza as I left the meetup it was like you know must have been 20 people they were waiting patiently in line so it's astonishing. That kind of reminds me of the grilled cheese place back in the day

02:41 The place across the street from Meteo. Yeah, remember that? All they made was grilled cheese and they were packed! And I think we predicted the mac and cheese, the grilled cheese, avocado toast... We predicted a lot of things even without saying, oh I predict something In fact one of our producers sent me this This is from 2021 I could not believe when i heard this The globalists jumped on the opportunity to be anti-racist and do photo ops being nice to poor black people but the general public is still kind of racist here. Co figure! There are reports and video evidence of Haitians catching and eating family cats and dogs, but it isn't too common. Hey we need this meme over here

03:31 Dude, if people knew that Haitians were eating dogs all of Wokistan would be defending the border. Yep We need to get this...this needs to come out! Stop eating our dogs you Haitians They're eating the dogs Can you believe we have that actual conversation? Maybe that's where Trump got it Huh? Possible possible You never know So amidst, and of course we're going to talk about terror. I have stuff from the Sunday shows. I have tons of terrorist stuff too But from this morning? From the Sunday show? Brand new? Caught off the press? Generally you would have the advantage on that one. Before we do that though... ...I thought it was rather interesting and didn't get at least I didn't see it get the coverage about the Russian envoy being in DC

04:30 Did you get any of that? No. So Kirill Dmitriev, easy for you to say... It's not easy for me to say was in DC and I could not find anything except snippets of an interview he did on Fox with Brett Baer which i thought was you know I had like WION, I had Africa News did something on it.. Everyone else was like It wasn't on CBS. No, well I pulled a couple clips. I thought it was white winter swing. It was very interesting and right off the bat this Kirill dude says you know Trump's done some pretty good stuff like stopping World War III! President Trump administration has made tremendous progress. There is no dialogue with Russia in Biden

05:24 Obviously that's why it wasn't played. Right off the top, progress? No we can have that! That is no good! Noooo, its not anti-Trump enough Trump administration has made tremendous progress There was no dialogue with Russia in Biden administration for the last three years there was no trying to understand Russian position there were really solutions that could have been successful And what President Trump team has done, they understood what the solution space may be and they achieved the first de-escalation ever in the conflict which is stopping hits on energy infrastructure between Russia and Ukraine. So we are having good discussions our diplomatic people also discussing possible outcomes but there's no question that President Trump team not only stopped World War III from happening

06:11 but also had already achieved sizable progress on Ukraine resolution. What? Yeah, you're right no wonder! No we can't have that we can be talking about good stuff like that and this kind of leading into the tariffs and sanctions I thought this was fascinating. Russia is not asking for lifting of sanctions because if you look at our GDP growth, it's actually 4% last year versus just 1% in Europe. If you look at our debt to GDP as 18%, versus 100% in Europe so I think what we see is that actually US companies lost around $300 billion or foregone profit from withdrawing from Russia So I think sanctions may be lifted when us companies want to go back

06:55 want to take advantage of business opportunities in Russia, but right now Russia is not making any preconditions. Not asking for specific sanction relief. This is fantastic! The Russians are like hey man you guys can come and make 300 billion dollars more Which I think is... You can buy back your McDonald's. It may be, well as if they all went away we know that a lot of them were faking it Yeah they're fake And the last clip here is about another stunner about NATO and the final resolutions for Ukraine

07:31 I think Ukraine joining NATO, as our president said is not at all possible and that has been widely accepted including by Trump administration. You know some security guarantees in some form may be acceptable And we can do so many great things together in Arctic. We can do deals in rare earth and other minerals, we can do lots of cooperation on LNG and other areas So I think one was the big issues between us whenever had really lots of economic operation We believe that economic corporation will allow also has solved any political issue Man they're gonna have to line up behind Canada everybody wants to give us rare Earth

08:12 It's amazing. I was like, well, tariffs are no good we're gonna get you but hey would you like some rare earth? Yeah and now he can't be in NATO over there in Ukraine but security forces are okay this is amazing more amazing of course that the M5M has except for Fox I'll give them a pass on that have just not covered it I don't even know this guy may just be some jimoku lives in Brooklyn speaks Russian for all I know. Well, I've never heard of him. I'm never heard of this guy. Red Bar is pretty good at getting you. They have good bookers on that show. I don't know this guy as a contrast i want to play these clips alrighty This is the uh...this is a contrast what you just played because thats like good news kind of can't have good news this is not cool but we can't have good so let's go to CBS

09:03 And look at their discussion of the NSA head being fired. Oh no, oh no okay uh... The NSA head You have two here Yeah the one that says 2 and it is a second one Oh that's a 2 Okay twee got it Well the general in charge of the National Security Agency and US Cyber Command Is the latest to be fired In a purge of national security officials Purge Margaret Brennan has the details President Trump's firing of the top two leaders of the powerful National Security Agency, Cyber Command General Timothy Hawk and Deputy Wendy Noble and the dismissal of at least six White House National Security Council aides followed an extraordinary Oval Office meeting Wednesday between President Trump and far-right activist Laura Loomer. CBS News has learned that Loomer who was entertained

09:56 9-11 conspiracy theories, has a history of anti Muslim and I immigrant social media posts privately and publicly. Accused the officials of subverting Trump's agenda and being disloyal President Trump said he did discuss personnel with Loomer Chris Krabs CBS News consultant was a top cybersecurity official during the first Trump administration so So, Laura Loomer this far-right activist said Hawk was fired because he was quote disloyal to President Trump. What do you make of that? He's exactly the kind of leader I think we need in that role it is surprising and i think it is a bit of a setback for us as we see China as we see Russia and Iran getting more and more aggressive in cyberspace to move out one of our most accomplished distinguished cyber warriors

10:48 Now, I saw the story come across The Transcendent and I'm glad you got these clips because my initial...I'll be honest. My initial response is, oh Lord Loomer what is she doing? Someone's been loomered! What was going on there?! A couple of things, the note. Why don't they get Laura Loomer and ask her a couple of questions? They might want to you know ask what's she talking about this guy being disloyal. Did they? They don't interview or talk to him. They talked to this guy Krebb who they announced as... This is CBS duplicitousness by the way. This is a great example of very poor journalism

11:29 And I would blame everybody, Dickinson and Brennan and the rest of them for doing this. This Krebs guy he was Trump's guy it was Trump security guy you know cyber security guy He was fired by Trump which you'd think they would mention because it does give you a little insight into what he's bitching about Because he was one of the guys fired by Trump, so you can't take him too seriously. Previously before it was NSA or now? No I'm talking about the guy doing the that she's talking to oh okay The guy who is she's using as evidence of this being a big blunder got his Krebs guy He was fired by Trump. He did work for Trump and then right after the election in

12:21 19, right after the election before you know where Trump thought it was a fake bad election for the 2020 election. Yeah this guy was he decided between the time of the election and the inauguration of Biden He as the cyber security guy started a blog which just documented every reason in the world why this couldn't have been a rigged election He should have done a sub stack. Blogs get no traction Well, whatever he did something it was government I was on Government Dime Huh and so Trump fired him now with CSA was that no it was Homeland Security Yes, no sister hmm So don't so Trump fired him so now he's the expert? So he's the guy with no grudge And he's on to it Margaret Brown back are you telling me that CBS is not doing good journalism

13:14 And so they're actually getting worse and worse. Meanwhile, we talk about this Hawke guy—Hawke as she calls him H-A-U-G-E was the head of NSA—this guy is interesting in a couple of ways he's like has three masters degrees in cybersecurity stuff but it's like from the Naval Postgraduate School to Army school... Stop! New promotion no agenda masters of security stuff I like it. I like it a lot. So the PhD is the only thing that works, so this guy has three master's degrees and he hasn't you look at him He looks like kind of a government guy But if you look at him or you look at his background? He has now what when you think of somebody with the bronze star yeah What does that imply?

14:09 You did something courageous. You probably did something in combat? Yes, courageous in combat yes This guy it appears has never been in combat he has a bronze star and if you try to research the bronze star which I did... ...you can't find out why got this bronze star And apparently got the bronze star while he was in Florida He rebooted his server He got the bronze, all I can figure out is he got the Bronze Star somehow in Florida and uh...I guess he was doing something remotely. I don't know! The guy is suspicious and so they bring this-they never interview Loomer about any of this They do interview Trump but you had to cut that out because it was on the airplane You couldn't hear it

15:08 And so they bring this Krebs guy on to just straighten us out and this is just garbage. So let's listen to the second half. This went right to the Oval Office, the conversation about these National Security Council officials There's a short circuit happening here in the traditional process there's a different kind of influence that is informing personnel processes and decisions. And I think that's in part what's just so unusual about the moment, where we have really capable people in leadership positions that I think are serving the Constitution well but unfortunately their time's up and they're jobs. And Margaret Brennan joins us now from Washington. Margaret if you could take us through the scope of what the NSA does and why this is such a big deal today?

15:53 Well, Maurice the NSA is arguably the most powerful intelligence collection agency this country has because they vacuum up information through signals intelligence intercepts. Vacuum up information? That's actually a very accurate description of what they do. Yeah it is very accurate. And the thing is...it's interesting that if you listen to her exposition here she hasn't She kind of has to clarify things with a little afterthought you may or may not catch. and in glove with the military's cyber command. Now, General Hawk is a four-star general he was unanimously confirmed by Congress to that job and he swore no of allegiance to the US Constitution No matter who is president his accuser Laura Loomer says his fault is working for the last president Margaret and you're hearing there might be more changes in store perhaps for this important agency

17:00 Yes, John we are actually CBS has learned that President Trump is considering splitting off the NSA From the military other presidents have also considered this and then ruled it out doing so Splitting it off would allow for President Trump to put a political ally at the helm General Hawk opposed it. What does she say? The M would prevent political ally at the helm? I didn't quite understand what she was saying. She said that splitting it off, now this is the logic of this now this is the part that I thought was interesting and by the way the other part I was mentioning earlier when she's in a wire taps yeah they do this overseas. She added that in real quick. They don't do wired taps here like Snowden implies No not Trump Tower at all! It's not happening so um...she says

17:53 by splitting the NSA off from the military it allows Trump to put in a loyalist. What, Trump's gonna put in somebody anyway what whether they're connected to the military or not why wouldn't he put in a loyalist? In other words I don't get the... Do they have to split NSA off from the military so he can put in a loyalist? Why can't they just put in a loyalist without splitting it off. It doesn't make any sense at all." She makes it sound like some conspiracy is going on, this is just bad reporting! Well there probably is a possible conspiracy

18:35 Opportunity if you have NSA, you know part of the military like separate those two She just talked about all that with the deal handing glove with a DOD Yeah You want to keep that on it? You want to keep that close to the vest. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer Interesting. So this was an example of the opposite, of like let's talk about the envoy from Russia trying to create peace heaven forbid! Let's just talk about Trump Well I have...I'll do two these are rather short series of The Sunday Morning Shows Thank You Steve Jones Howard Lutnick our Commerce Secretary was on Face The Nation

19:17 and it was he made a little but what is lightning to cut oh yes commerce yeah he's commerce yeah you made a little boo-boo but first let's get into the intro we see about 60% of Americans have money in the stock market which mean that retirees could be just as concerned as hedge fund managers hold on a second let's start with that premise 60% of Americans have money in the stock market mostly via 401ks. Yes, it's not like they're investors and by the way I wonder if it's 60 percent that have 401k retirement funds yeah Yeah but that would date that that's what they're trying to include yeah because we active investors is no ways that high okay Did you expect this level of shock in the financial markets? Shock!

20:06 Well, you've got to realize this is a national security issue. We don't make medicine in this country anymore we don't make ships. We don't have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle right? All our semiconductors are made overseas for every button we press when we try to start our car or even use our microwave these are all semiconductors they're all made elsewhere Buttons now semiconductors, but okay I digress. I like the buttons Start to protect ourselves and we've got to stop having all the countries of the world ripping us off We have a 1.2 trillion dollar trade deficit and the rest of the world has a surplus with us

20:46 They're earning our money, they're taking our money. And Donald Trump has seen this and he's gonna stop it so it is going to be a big change of course It's going to be a big change but the rest of the world has been ripping us off for all these many years Donald Trump has seen it He spoken about I understand that and just not gonna take it anymore and that's his model So actually its Hasser did the whoops you'll get to that later But this guy likes saying ripped-off a lot. And where does he come from Ludnick? He comes from, is he a hedge fund guy or what is he? I think he's a hedge fund guy. We can look him up but who is this that's interviewing him? I have no idea Sounds like Brennan Oh it could be It's Face the Nation

21:30 So probably that would be her. Okay more getting ripped off and now she's bad by this She's just a bet she's bad news this woman. No, but that's her job. She's bad news lady And that was in Abundantly clear during the presidential campaign how much the president truly believes in tariffs and putting him at the center of his economic policy But you saw absolute panic in the global market. I'm sorry Cantor Fitzgerald Of course, how could I forget? He's the guy that didn't go to work on 9-11 Sorry to put it that way, but kids did you expect that or were you surprised? No, I think the point is you need to reset the power of the United States for America and we set it against all our allies and our enemies alike. The idea that all the countries in the world can run trade surpluses with America and buy our things with us... Remember 1.2 trillion dollars? In 1980 we were a net investor meaning we owned more than the rest of the world than they owned of us

22:27 And now they own 18 trillion dollars of us net. So that means the rest, every year when we run a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit the rest of the world buys $1.2 trillion dollars of America and it goes up and up and eventually were not going to own America and we are going to be owned by the rest of the world. Imagine if we had war and we can't build a ship? fly a plane, we can't build our own planes. We don't have our own semiconductors this is what the president is here to fix for America it's in his hands and he wants to fix America this is his chance to fix America so we need him to fix it for our children and our grandchildren understood but my 401k here at CBS is going down I hate looking at these numbers all day long

23:17 And then this was really quite low. I mean, what let me just stop for a second with Lutnick said there is kind of important it's very important and if the media was on board This wouldn't be an issue at all. But they're not, they're fighting it. They really want America to become a weakened state that could be just easily taken over by anyone with the military because we are going to have nothing except soldiers with gear that is purchased overseas and we still have our defense industry which really only makes missiles and fighter jets

24:01 We don't make tanks anymore. But not with our own steel, so I mean... No problem There's a lot of problems here in terms of strategic positioning and the media is just not helping Oh no! Of course not They want ratings they don't really care if they're helping or not They're not interested They are interested in their own bread and butter It makes total sense Just like us That's why we're kowtowing. We don't have ratings, we don't need ratings, we don't use ratings, it was beautiful part of that system and now we're not part of downloads either podcast industrial complex anyway so it was understandable that Saturday Night Live made a joke about the McDonald Island

24:46 you know, penguins. It's understandable but for CBS to not even think for two seconds about what this is- what that's really about was just baffling. When we saw the president standing in the Rose Garden holding up that chart that you helped make That wasn't actually tariffs That was actually confusing to investors because it was some kind of other formula and the countries themselves Did you see the formula? Yeah, I think i did. It looked like the formula for Bitcoin mining. Oh that formula was up there yeah? It was very interesting! And the countries themselves seemed kind of random... Like why are the Herd and McDonald Islands which don't export to the United States and are quite literally inhabited by penguins Why do they face a 10% tariffs?! Did you use AI to generate this?? Can you believe this question

25:45 It's like, do a... use AI and ask the question you would come up with an answer you wouldn't ask this ridiculous question. I just couldn't believe that came from CBS. Face donation! No, no the idea look the idea is left off because the idea what happens if you leave anything off the list. The countries that try to basically arbitrage America go through those countries to us and now what he's trying to say is I'm going to fix the trade deficit of United States of America it's a national security issue

26:25 We need to make medicine, we need to make semiconductors. Yes! We need to make ships- She's not listening. We need to have steel and aluminum come on! We need the greatness of America to actually be built in America and he is tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world Okay but just to be clear April 9th those so called retaliatory tariffs So called, so called To actually be built in America and he's tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world. Okay, but just to be clear April 9th those so called retaliatory tariffs that reciprocal tariffs I should say are those coming or are they open to negotiation?

27:01 The tariffs are coming. He announced it and he wasn't kidding the tariffs are coming of course they are okay She is not listening I wonder if her producer's just yelling in your ear you know, it's like she might be I've noticed this before that she doesn't listen very well did she does did it with Marco Rubio, she didn't listen to him. Vance, J.D. Vance was nailed or two because she wasn't listening. She doesn't listen and it's possible that she is one of those people... There are people that are major anchors not a lot of them but there's a few which is probably why she's never on doing a daily show

27:48 When they're talking in there, this is a kind of inside baseball. But when you have this IFB in your ear and someone's talking to you... This was expressed I think in the movie Network News where what's his name? Where they could talk to him and he could see as your... Not too many people can do this but they can talk to you in your ear and you can repeat right as their saying it in real time as if you're saying it. It's a skill And some people can't, the skill is like lost on them when they're, when the IFB's going off and the producer saying what you just said. They're yucking at her. She can't also listen to the guests she can only hear the guy... One track mind so she can hear the guy in the IFB and she can't pay attention at the same time Some people can, some people can't. She can't

28:42 Well, the problem with her is that and this is what you shouldn't be doing. She keeps saying yeah okay but she keeps interrupting because she hears the question in her ear Tom Brokaw could do he was really good at that I saw that I think we talked about it The launch of MSNBC and Tom Brokaw interviewed President Clinton? Yeah must have been President Clinton And I sat in the control room because we had done the chat or something for MSNBC and it was astounding how good he was. It was just, you know... He's talking, he's listening they're yelling in his ear and they're getting all at once. I mean that guy was really good Yeah, that is those guys non-trivial. Or! I don't believe can even come close to doing any of that

29:33 You could just go on Joe Rogan and take three hours, and take your time and have a nice conversation. Get some real information out of it! This is the problem with linear broadcast system It's just not conducive anymore to what people want Like tell me more instead of penguins So we go over to Kevin Hassert He is the director of National Economic Council he showed up this morning on ABC This Week And I had a number interesting things to say So this is now that Stephanopoulos is going to focus on prices and taxes and prices and taxes and taxes and prices. And Hassert is going to give him a piece of his mind. Where do you base your conclusion? You're not gonna see an increase in price, just about every economist

30:20 who's looked at this said you are going to see an increase in prices including Goldman Sachs, including JP Morgan and the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Well there might be some increase in prices but the fact is that if there were gonna be a heavy burden on the US consumer then this trade deficit for 30 years we've seen really since China entered the WTO would have gone down over time it would have responded to the prices The bottom line is that China entered the WTO in 2000. In the 15 years that followed, real incomes declined about $1200 cumulatively over that time and so if cheap goods were the answer of cheap goods we're going to make Americans' real wages, real welfare better off then real incomes would have gone up over that time instead they went down because wages went down more than prices went down So you got the cheap goods at the grocery store but then we had fewer jobs

31:07 And that's why President Obama and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, and President Trump have come out saying we've got to come up with a better policy. A policy that treats our workers fairly compared to everybody else. Now president Trump true his word just like he promised during the campaign just like he put into his campaign platform he still every got his word. Okay. Hassard by the way was professor of economics Columbia I guess you also wrote a book I don't know if he was, it was in 1999. Dow 36000 the new strategy for profiting from the coming rise in the stock market. I do not think his track record is so good as it was published just before the dot-com bubble burst. So... Gold did go over to $36,000. It did! He was right about that

31:59 The timing, it's just timing. I'm always... Oh! I guess i get to say it. I'm always surprised no I'm amazed that people will be sending me hey I know what the tariffs are about nine trillion dollars has to be reified this year there's three trillion coming up in April and May this is probably what it's about I'm like yeah did you listen to us on March 13th so we've already been all over this and It appears, certainly from the president's truths through social...

32:35 that he was hoping that the Federal Reserve would lower the interest rates and this came up. Yeah, he bitched about that. Was this a strategy? He asks George. Also on Truth Social, The President retweeted a post that said the market drop was part of a deliberate strategy to force the Fed to lower interest rates Is that the president's strategy? You just said it on Truth Social! Why are you asking if that is his strategy?! If not why did he post it Yeah, yeah. He just quotes it as a joke! Just gaffing him! The bottom line is the president has been talking about tariffs for 40 years and this has like been absolutely THE policy that he's focused on in the campaign and throughout his political career and you know the cyclical cycle of the Fed it comes and goes that's a different matter but

33:24 is President Trump's desired policy. He has been arguing for it ever since I think he was on The View 30, 40 years ago and the baseline tariffs is exactly what he put into the convention so this not a surprise for anyone. Is that his strategy to force the Fed lower interest rates in that market crash was part of- We understand the Fed as an independent agency we respect the independence of the Fed? Yeah but that's no good enough from me isn't a strategy! So that is his strategy tank the markets so the Federal No,no Well you just said the president Is that his opinion or- Wow. No, this guy is about to fall apart this Hassett guy. Take the market he's trying to deliver for American workers and I mean what would you have him do? Again real wages down 15 years in a row under the previous policy and that's why Americans voted for him they brought him into turn of the economy around for the American worker and that's what he's focused on. I'm just trying to get some clarity is that- I can't stand it!

34:18 Say it, say it. Is that the president's strategy or not? He posted it. He said the strategy is to lower for the markets to crash so the Fed lowers interest rates. It's not a strategy for the markets to crash. It is not a strategy for the markets to crash. It's a strategy to create a gold mage in America for the American worker and that's his strategy. JP Morgan says the risk of recession has climbed 60%. Your response? We just had one of those stronger jobs reports I've seen in a long time. That was about 50% better than market expected It's the second one in a row. We've created already something like 10,000 auto jobs since President Trump took office and I just got word anecdotal word last night that auto plants are adding second shifts in the US In order to respond to this tariffs Nissan in particular what's that? Oh nice. That's a big factory here They decided double production or something you figure they can really take advantage of the situation So now have a couple wait where I have two more clips here

35:13 This is where Hassett makes a crucial mistake. And Stephanopoulos is going to hound him for it. But a tariff is a tax increase, isn't it? A tariff is a form of tax. It's a way that you collect revenue when you import products yes and consumers pay that tax correct no because it depends on supply and demand elasticity supply and demand and again if you thought consumers are gonna pay that tax then you should be puzzled about now we can now he's saying tax why does countries are upset about Well, I'm just- I've asked you. I'm focused on the consumers right now. You've conceded that prices are gonna go up because of the tariffs? They might go up some but not nearly as much as you implied in your piece and the reason is that this supply isn't elastic in China. Again, I'll give you a simple example if you have an apple tree that has 100 apples then you're paying $1 at Apple and then there's a 10 cent tax than people... If you raise the price to $1.10 people reduce their demand

36:09 And so maybe they only demand 90 apples, but then you got 10 apples left. So what are you supposed to do with the ten apples that nobody wants? What happens is the suppliers have to lower the price of apples in order to get back to 100 and a hundredth. The question is supply it elastic or not? I think that by proceeding persistent trade deficits year after year after year then we can say yeah supply is very elastic. You're saying consumers either going to have to buy less or pay more but the tariff is a tax as you just conceded No, what happens is that the supplier cuts his price so that the price is still a dollar. Good by example. Yeah yeah I'm sorry you screwed that one up. You should have... The whole thing was screwed up never take the T word. Here's the question you should turn these questions around on these interviewers and one example is why is it if its

36:53 American consumer is going to pay more for something and thus being a quasi tax. How come Range Rover, for example who sends I think 100,000 vehicles to the United States every year out of production 400,000 they send 100,000 vehicles to the United States? They decided not send any because they don't want to pay the tariffs you mean how does that work well or just as we discussed on last show The real thing you say is Then why would China try and hurt its people with a 34% increase in tariffs? It's a tax. Are they trying to kill other people? That's another example, you can turn these questions around... Trump usually has guys that can do that Yeah but Hassert he went to apples No Sorry Somebody needs some media training over there

37:45 That was not good. He's no good. Curry Dvorak Consulting Group is available! Being badgered by, of all people, Stephanopoulos. You can back him off by saying you just keep repeating the same question over and over what am I supposed to do? I'm going to answer it the same way. Are you just gonna bore people stiff with this same question over and over until i change my answer? What are you doing here?! Dvorak for Commerce Secretary... I mean Director of the National Economic Council whatever. You could do it. You'd be good. All right, you had clips? I'm opening it up for you. Yeah, I have a couple but I don't have a lot but here's the run down from NPR that is just a backup clip

38:24 Businesses and stock markets around the world are reeling from President Trump's new 10% tariffs on nearly everything. The U.S. imports, those went into effect today 25 percent tariffs on foreign-made autos are also in effect that'll set Wall Street lower for its worst week in five years China hit back announcing a 34 percent tariff on all American goods and Pierre Scott Horsley has more For decades, Trump has nursed this grievance that other countries are taking advantage of the US. And he has a kind of steam-driven nostalgia... Hold on a second! I didn't catch this. This is a kind of a bullcrap.

39:05 He's been nursing this grievance and it's like as if other people are taking advantage. I mean the way, there is this haughty presentation of the facts... We've been doing this for over 17 years will these people ever stop? Well, they don't listen to the show. For decades Trump has nursed this grievance that other countries are taking advantage of the U.S., and he has a kind of steam-driven nostalgia for The Gilded Age when the US was less globally connected. You heard him talk about that period before 1913. Why? That year is when the U.S. adopted the income tax. Now Trump wants to cut the income tax and replace some of that revenue with his new tariffs. Oh heaven forbid!

39:54 That would be good for wealthy Americans who would get most of the benefit of the tax cut. But it's not so good for lower income families, will have to pay more for imported food and clothes and other necessities." Yeah I had this thought with him because the poor people won't be able to... they're gonna have to pay more for their imported caviar! The poor people have to pay more for their imported food what? Poor people eat imported food They're eating stuff out of a bag with a barcode. Give me a break! So, okay good I'm glad you got that here's the local report from CBS I think in Florida about the tax plan and the Senate seems like it's taking it up over there

40:36 The weekend Senate Republicans are set to take a major step in the direction of passing President Trump's agenda, teeing up a vote later this year on a tax cut package paid for by cutting government spending. The bill would most likely include an extension of the president signature legislative accomplishment from his first term. The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act which raised the standard deduction for taxpayers but will expire at the end of this year if no action is taken. The bill could also accomplish other large pieces of Trump's agenda, including tax incentives he campaigned on like No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, No Tax on Social Security Benefits and raising the state local tax deduction or SALT cap That sounds like nothing but tax cuts for rich people! But some of the plans largest pieces haven't been ironed out yet with Republicans still looking for ways to pay for some of these tax cuts

39:54 That would be good for wealthy Americans who would get most of the benefit of the tax cut. But it's not so good for lower income families, will have to pay more for imported food and clothes and other necessities." Yeah I had this thought with him because the poor people won't be able to... they're gonna have to pay more for their imported caviar! The poor people have to pay more for their imported food what? Poor people eat imported food They're eating stuff out of a bag with a barcode. Give me a break! So, okay good I'm glad you got that here's the local report from CBS I think in Florida about the tax plan and the Senate seems like it's taking it up over there

40:36 The weekend Senate Republicans are set to take a major step in the direction of passing President Trump's agenda, teeing up a vote later this year on a tax cut package paid for by cutting government spending. The bill would most likely include an extension of the president signature legislative accomplishment from his first term. The 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act which raised the standard deduction for taxpayers but will expire at the end of this year if no action is taken. The bill could also accomplish other large pieces of Trump's agenda, including tax incentives he campaigned on like No Tax on Tips, No Tax on Overtime, No Tax on Social Security Benefits and raising the state local tax deduction or SALT cap That sounds like nothing but tax cuts for rich people! But some of the plans largest pieces haven't been ironed out yet with Republicans still looking for ways to pay for some of these tax cuts

41:24 Democrats on Capitol Hill saying they will oppose the Republican plan and claim Republicans will cut Medicaid and other social services to cover the plans cost. The job of the Democrats over the next 36 hours is to hold the Republicans feet to the fire, force them to tell the truth about what they want to do to the American economy And what they believe fairness is, and that is a country that works for a handful of billionaires and lets everybody else eat dirt. Though this past week Republicans notched- We're gonna eat dirt! It's not even canned goods you're eating dirt! You're eating dirt! Past week Republicans notched two victories in special elections in Florida clawing back to vacant Republican friendly seats

42:06 House Republicans still have an extremely slim majority in Congress. The horse trading necessary to reach an agreement that nearly all Republicans can support could prove to be extremely difficult. House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the smallest Republican majority in American history and says he wants to pass the finished bill in the next couple of months. I didn't know it was the smallest majority in American history, that doesn't make any sense. Well its pretty small but If you're a reporter, he claims. Oh yeah... Why don't you just look it up, reporter? It would take two seconds, any of the AI search engines could do it. Is this the smallest majority in history? You look it up instead you say he claims... Proved to be extremely difficult House Speaker Mike Johnson claims to have the smallest Republican majority American history and says he wants to pass a finished bill In the next couple months timing that could prove to be extremely tricky So imagine my surprise when I got this report from KTLA in Los Angeles

43:08 This is the local Jamoke guy. He's a, I was just surprised that he got... Local Jamoke. That's an actual show title. It's a position within every newsroom. We go now to our local Jamoke in Los Angeles about the trade war! What's interesting about the super-rich is back in the 19th century early 20th century much if not most of their wealth was tied to actual things, railroads, factories that sort of thing. Nowadays the super rich have their money almost exclusively in stocks so when the stock market does well they get much richer when the stock market has a bad day like today they get

43:49 poor. And that's obviously a big deal for them because these guys keep score in dollar signs now, what makes this more interesting is that President Trump has been largely immune to criticism from well the hoi polloi but he does listen to his peers in the millionaire and billionaire class I think it's a fair bet to say that a number of rich people will be calling the White House to say, dude what's going on? Moreover worth pointing out this is the wealthiest cabinet in the White House ever. More billionaires sitting in that building than ever before It's hard not to think more then one or two are walking down the hall through the Oval Office and saying Mr President sir can I have a moment

44:29 Yeah, doesn't that say something? Local joke. I thought that was it now contrast that with Senator Chuck Schumer and why is he doing these tariffs Why would he do something like this because the Republican Party is in the vice grip of a group of very greedy billionaires. They have a billionaire bubble and they say yes! Oh, by the way he's got lots of alliteration He's trying to launch all kinds of meme phrases that billionaire bubble... A billionaire bubble and they say yes! All this money from terrorists could help make our taxes lower It's a disgrace it's an absolute disgrace The amendment that we're doing calls for rescinding

45:10 Trump's disastrous chaotic tariffs that are hurting Americans. Everything is going to go up! Groceries, medicines, cars gasoline furniture clothing So far gasoline is down okay everything you know yeah but there's been a almost the collapse of the oil market Yeah I have I have a clip on that let me just finish Schumer You name it It's gonna go up because this is across-the-board across the world And by the way, businesses hate this. Not just big businesses small businesses they need certainty.

45:57 You know what he said? He said, I hate Trump for doing this. I can't believe he's trying to make it easy for me to start a business without competition! Small business...I'm a small businessman and I hate it! What? Let's say we have a candle that is doing well. Of course. And when they hear about all these terrorists coming out They don't hire any new people They don't expand services building a new plant. They say, uh-oh these tariffs are coming I've got to keep my money in my pocket literally building a new factory a mini factory but a factory Schumer has never worked a day in his life he's been on the public dole and he is rich here we go The whole thing...he just bullocked it out of him I don't understand why they haven't gotten rid of him by now

46:46 I don't know what photos he's got, but how he stays in office is killing me. Let's wind it up with the meme of the week... Well before you wind it up, I have a couple more questions. No wait! I have 12 seconds left on this clip! You're winding up the whole topic here. No no, I'm winding up Schumer I have so much. OPEC, whatever you want! Let's finish Schumer because he is going to wind it up with the meme of the week. ...so poorly planned that he is taxing penguins not Putin... Taxing penguins not Putin? There it is everybody! ...the taxes levied on the herd in McDonald Island where only penguins live but he is leaving Russia alone. Schumer is behind all this. But Schumer is behind these types of things

47:33 He stinks at it. Well yeah, remember the scripted thing that all the senators were doing? He totally stinks at it! I have two clips from Bloomberg about the OPEC if you want to do something else. Yeah, I think we can see... well this is obscure, this I'm sure you don't have or know about these are two clips about Timu Did you hear about what's... I don't know why this has been overlooked. This is something you could really drive home and really upset people with? Yeah. T-Moves dead, and it's a executive order that i didn't know about that hasn't been played up in the media for reasons unknown to me because The below $800? Yeah! And I think we talked about it

48:23 Well, it's fairly new but this is a I think this presentation is quite good. A head-spinning week for the economy... Hey hold on a second! This..I mean come on man can't you just put it on the clip like Scott is coming? Suffer and suckatash! I'm Scott! Simon a head spinning. We're the way it's gonna stop who put that load what is the point of the air horn in the middle of the I'm Scott haha What is the point of anything on this show? What is the point a head-spinning week for the economy and

49:03 President Trump's tariff setting just about every nation and every industry. Here is something that got less attention, the president also moved to close a popular loophole known as the de minimis rule. It allows millions of US shoppers to buy products everything from shoes underwear lamps and tools Don't you remember that the Postal Service says we're not going to be delivering these packages And then they turned it around all of a sudden after this executive order came out? It was the oddest thing This whole thing is fairly odd, but I've been thinking about this because I like these cheap... you know, I think AliExpress. You love USB sticks. It's junk! But the thing is you get this crap and it comes straight from China and it comes pretty quickly And I think there's some sort of a deal with them Well they have their own warehouses in America, Timu So this junk

50:00 comes in by the boatload and you order like 20 items and the whole bill is like 40 bucks. 10 of the items are garbage and I have to, and the other ones you go well. I don't know maybe this is it? I have to reiterate Tina buys all kinds of clothing stuff probably in the $70 range 40 45 75 dollar range and so many women do this they'll order five pieces and they're going to send four back And now it's at the point where

50:38 And I'm sure this is all coming from China, Vietnam etc. Where the company will say if you don't send it back to us we'll give you a 110% credit of what you paid. Oh? That's gotta stop at a certain point they do not want the returns No because its junk! Directly from retailers in China and Hong Kong till now you could make those purchases without paying import taxes That's about to change. NPR's Brian Mann has been following this, Brian thanks for being with us Hi there Scott How big is closing this loophole? Well Scott it's huge really in two ways First it's going to affect a lot of American consumers who have come to rely on big Chinese e-commerce firms like Shein and Temu For a lot of low cost products as you mentioned This is everything from fast fashion to toys and tools

51:32 These companies have built global brands marketing on social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok where influencers celebrate when their packages arrive. With marketing like that Scott, over the last decade US shoppers fell in love with these companies direct-to-consumer international shipments exploded to around $54 billion in sales last year, roughly 4 million packages coming every day. What's going to change with Trump's new executive order? So under this de minimis rule shoppers who place orders worth under 800 bucks and you can get a lot of

52:11 low-cost dresses or office supplies for that amount. They haven't until now been hit with duties or taxes and they also get their packages really fast because they haven't had to wait for the usual customs and inspection process But under the president's executive order, that is going to come to a screeching halt May 2nd. Every package will now face a tariff of 30%. Eventually anything consumers order in this way is going to face a minimum fee of 50 bucks and remember if you're buying a $2 t-shirt or a $10 skirt that amount of tax is a huge markup Yeah...May second Okay I thought this had already gone into effect Is it? No! Is this a new report? Yeah This came yesterday Hmm okay

52:53 This is good. Yeah, May 2nd so get your orders in people! Order your junk, get your dresses and everything. There's gonna be a boom! They make good cameras... I'm doing you when i was saying this No no im talking about the Chinese making cameras they make Nikon cameras and other comaras Yeah Comaros Which is, I'm just saying they can make high quality products. I'm not saying Timu and Sheehan and the other operations are making quality products. It's junk! And it's probably toxic junk wouldn't surprise me. Well a lot of it stinks. Yeah. There was an ad for WeatherTech that basically has kids wearing masks gas mask when they bought Chinese junk. Alright second... Because a lot of this stuff does stink Oh yeah

53:43 It's nasty. One thing that is interesting here, a study published last year predicts this change is going to cost Americans more than $10 billion dollars a year in higher prices with much of that burning hitting- What? Oh what was that all about? This is like assuming they're gonna keep buying stuff at 50 bucks minimum you have to pay 50 buck over the top and then all the rest plus the tariffs and then you have to wait It's not going to cost the American public $10 billion. The American public is not going to spend a nickel! No, the American public is gonna go I don't need that junk it's no longer cheap junk. Yeah so this is a bullcrap number well but saved or created with much of that burden hitting lower income shoppers

54:31 Oh, here we go again. The lower income... Those poor people! The poor people! Of course. Buying directly from Chinese and Hong Kong retailers is so popular in America why change the rule? Yeah that's a great question. And a lot of President Trump's tariffs have obviously been controversial but this move actually has broad bipartisan support backing from a bunch of different public safety and industry groups And they have really two arguments. First, they say this has been unfair competition – all these cheap untaxed goods flooding American markets pricing out US manufacturers.

55:08 Second, government officials believe a lot of illegal stuff including street fentanyl the drug is coming across the border hidden in these packages. I spoke about this with Kimberly Glass she heads the National Council of Textile Organization that's a trade group that supports US clothes makers. It's regrettably facilitated fentanyl and other illicit products like forced labor products to our front doors on our steps babies products that are failing to meet FDA standards. Now I should say these big e-commerce companies like Shein and Temu say they do have ethical supply chains and quality control, but what we know is that this change it's going to be a huge blow to their business model. Brian this executive order only affects shipments from China and Hong Kong.

55:55 What about products that are sold directly from other countries? Yeah, so for now shoppers can still buy directly from retailers shipping from other countries like Bangladesh India and Vietnam. But the Trump administration has signaled that it plans to close these de minimis loopholes in the months ahead for the entire globe they're phasing this in slowly because it turns out it's a big challenge for US customs and border protection to process and tax all these millions of packages All right, I'm feeling there was a very long game being played here. And this goes back to the TikTok ban which by the way not a lot of talk of China stealing our information anymore just don't see that guess it's not important anymore was the most important thing ever and

56:46 And so I remember that there was a carve out, there was a carve out from shopping sites like Timu. There was a carve out from review sites. This is from what you found very tedious Supreme Court decision about TikTok? Even if you could get just to the data security question, again you have to ask the question would this law have been passed by Congress for data security reasons? Because you're being asked to uphold a law based on that single governmental interest. And when you look through the provisions like the content recommendation algorithm provision, like the covered company provisions, the answer is no and if you're still in doubt on that just go back to the under-inclusiveness problem. Would a congress really worried about these very dramatic risks

55:55 What about products that are sold directly from other countries? Yeah, so for now shoppers can still buy directly from retailers shipping from other countries like Bangladesh India and Vietnam. But the Trump administration has signaled that it plans to close these de minimis loopholes in the months ahead for the entire globe they're phasing this in slowly because it turns out it's a big challenge for US customs and border protection to process and tax all these millions of packages All right, I'm feeling there was a very long game being played here. And this goes back to the TikTok ban which by the way not a lot of talk of China stealing our information anymore just don't see that guess it's not important anymore was the most important thing ever and

56:46 And so I remember that there was a carve out, there was a carve out from shopping sites like Timu. There was a carve out from review sites. This is from what you found very tedious Supreme Court decision about TikTok? Even if you could get just to the data security question, again you have to ask the question would this law have been passed by Congress for data security reasons? Because you're being asked to uphold a law based on that single governmental interest. And when you look through the provisions like the content recommendation algorithm provision, like the covered company provisions, the answer is no and if you're still in doubt on that just go back to the under-inclusiveness problem. Would a congress really worried about these very dramatic risks

57:30 Leave out an e-commerce site like Temu that has 70 million Americans using it and every bit the connection. Does Congress have to go all or nothing on that? It doesn't have to go all or nothing. They isolate a particular problem So so that was part of the carveout is Temu, and I think now Considering that the number one Retailer as we know tik tok is really the tik tok shop is now last minute bid with an extension which will last around May or beyond May. I'm thinking they totally screwed the Chinese and here's the Amazon bid. TikTok saved for now today President Trump saying he will sign an executive order to keep TikTok running in the US for another 75 days in order to give time to American investors interested in buying the social media platform.

58:25 Posting on truth social, we do not want to talk to go dark. We look forward to working with Tick Tock and China to close the deal adding how China is not happy about tariffs he says are necessary for trade ticked out going dark back in January for a few hours which created confusion especially for the many small business owners that rely on the app completely went down voluntarily because it had not been sold off and users in the US 170 million of them could not use TikTok. And it created pandemonium that users started flocking to rival social networks, the Trump administration then set an April 5th deadline for the app to be banned in the U S if it wasn't sold by its Chinese owned parent company ByteDance. The issue Tik Tok's algorithm and its national security concerns over China's ownership of the app there are concerns about not just the data privacy but about what people see using

59:18 And according to reports, TikTok will still own the algorithm. And that's mixing up what people see and that raises different concerns. Sources say there are several investors interested in jumping into purchase TikTok including Amazon Oracle and Apple oven. Tick Tock is not only popular with users but also e-commerce ticktock shop reportedly makes an estimated $30 billion worth of sales globally at about 9 billion in the US I think the president screwed the Chinese on this I think you might be right because what happened with the 54 billion of Timu, that's what they make plus 30 billion here. You're getting to the 100 billion dollar mark yearly and Xi'an hasn't even been mentioned whatever they make this whole thing may be interlocked

1:00:06 It sure feels like it. And you know, everyone's like oh it'll be... Believe me TikTok is not interesting for the social aspect other than social shopping that's what they do okay? It's great for the show I can't believe I said that. Great for this show because it makes you happy. Just because it makes you happy so it's great for the show uh-huh But think about the, it's like China. Okay listen either you sell it to Amazon and the president has said and we're gonna be part owner of it that's what he kept saying oh yeah 500 billion dollars I don't know about that but um we're going to be part owner if not screw you then goodbye there goes that

1:00:54 So Amazon seems to be the one. I don't see... Amazon may be part of this whole scheme because Amazon is the one that's hurt the most by Timu and Xian, at least when other people are hurt by him too But Amazon I think is hit hard because of all the junk. Besides the clothing, yeah the junk tools and the junk this and junk that's just junk where Amazon normally would be the ones selling the same junk And I've pointed this out with a mouse that I bought from one of these operators I think about it from AliExpress

1:01:32 A fabulous mouse. Fabulous! It was five bucks, direct from China I got a copy there it is i have it here and this the same mouse I bought a year earlier from Amazon for $11 and the difference of five dollars and eleven dollars for the exact same product is pretty substantial Technology companies in general is going to be very interesting what's happening and where I kind of made a flippant remark about turning off our social networks to Europe. Yeah, I think there's something going on this is you know France and the UK are now teaming up

1:02:18 teaming up because we got a combat, stop buying American products. Oh wait a minute they're not actually made in America." Under their star-spangled banner the United States is home to a constellation of brands many of which can be found in France mobile phones groceries and everyday goods could These items soon be taxed by the European Union in retaliation to President Donald Trump's sweeping new trade policies. Many American products are part of daily lives in France, including almonds of which California is the largest producer. Now President Trump has slapped a 10% tariff on most imports

1:02:54 and raise the EU levy rate to 20%. These are products that I consume on a regular or daily basis. We'll probably have to rethink the way we shop. Honestly, if it becomes too expensive, I won't buy these products anymore. That's the product the French consumers are made in. Honestly, if it becomes too expensive I won't buy these products anymore. But the products the French consume most are made in other countries for example

1:03:34 iPhones are made in China, and American athletic brand Nike has factories across Southeast Asia. For certain fast food chains or sweet drinks production is even located in France. Pepsi, M&M, Ariel and Coca-Cola are all made in the country so their costs shouldn't be affected. Bank of America analysts say among the global panic there is some good news. Commodity prices are falling for the first time in four years Oil prices have fallen to an average of 65 US dollars per barrel, the same for wheat and cotton. The EU's answer to President Trump could be American big tech One option is to target social media platforms and streaming services with regulations and other restrictions I say cut them off That would be so funny Cut em off Just sorry

1:04:22 Then you remember when these things first came into play maybe about 10 years ago with the digital regulations that, when I was in Europe you go to a website and it would say sorry. The GPR, GDPR You know, the... Yeah. Some regulation. GDRP that's what it is about information that you have on people and you have to adhere to certain guidelines or rules really so now they're going to try because of course there's a lot of money that comes into America from Europe

1:05:06 based on, you know, from Meta and Google and some from X I'm sure. And Microsoft operating system still do you think somebody...I mentioned this to Mimi the other day said You know so during the rescue of the astronauts that Elon Musk had started SpaceX from scratch basically by taking a bunch of NASA people putting them together and all of sudden they have the best rocket you can buy Pretty much, because we were buying our rocket engines from Russia for years. Yep And so now we make our own and it's better than anybody else's I'm thinking is this going on? And they've got the capsules you get all the stuff and We can't find somebody to make a new operating system Well, we have me it seems to me we got the ability to just build a space program from scratch and somebody can't come along and beat Windows! We have Linux

1:06:01 Besides Linux which stinks. No it does it doesn't stink or then why aren't you using it? I do use linux, I can't use it in the studio because Because like the the stupid Australians won't give us drivers that work with linux but otherwise yeah, I do use linux all the time Yeah, but I'm just saying is an example You can't use it for the production of this show you are using LibreOffice Use a lot of public I use a lot of these things, but it's beside the point. Why don't we just get rid windows is still dominates Can't we get rid of Windows? It's gone bad. It's no good. In fact, what's the deal with all Windows 10 is gonna be the last windows you ever need and now I keep getting these whole screen messages Oh, you gotta move to Windows 11. They won't work anymore! Wait a minute, I was promised where's their lawsuit on this? Where somebody coming out with a lawsuit that because they promise that Windows 10 was it That's right

1:06:56 Windows 10 I have not upgraded even though they keep telling me i should because it's going to end. It won't work anymore, I'm gonna wake up one day do the show and the show won't be there This is illegal where's the FTC when it comes this? They made a verbal...they said in public that windows 10 is the last windows Really You don't remember this? I don't think so. About five years ago when they first brought out Windows 10, they said oh! Windows 10 is it this is the end now just gonna be upgrades to Windows 10 you're going live a fabulous life The term windows and fabulous life does not go together no matter what Interesting well I'd like to have some clip of that and I believe you without a doubt but of course the same was said for Vista

1:07:47 Vista. Which turned out to be pretty good in hindsight Yeah, but that only lasted like three years or two years and then... We got bad PR at the beginning it was poorly done It was a crap name. It's a crap name. And Vista yeah Vista. Okay, since they were talking about consumers. Consumers saying no I just won't buy these products which is exactly what will happen over in Washington State Como the big Como they seem like they were home of Costco They were really trying to spark some kind of hype panic, panic buying and the people in Washington went no not really.

1:08:42 panic buying than the pumped up prices. Or just like an extra luxury item, it's not really necessary if you were smart enough you would already been prepared and have non perishable foods anyway according to the manager of this store everything has been normal so far in fact he told us the overall Costco company of course based in Issaquah doesn't expect a major impact from tariffs customers agreed. It's always been busy, I don't know a day that's not busy at Costco. Well everything is normal at this store economists tell Como overall panic buying is still a possibility especially as costs go up for pretty much anything. These tariffs started off very targeted but they've become quite broad yet in Shoreline customers told us it's not time to panic buy and it never is

1:09:33 I don't think anyone needs to like go and run and clear out the Costco. That's probably not healthy for our community This is the actual problem this is what freaks the rest of the world out is that the American public may just become a little more frugal. We may just wake up one day and go, you know this kind of junk my house is filled with junk my kids got junk plastic toys I've got junk everywhere it's just I got junk the internet of things everywhere It's just junk! And if that really happens...

1:10:11 Because Pete we are the we are the consume. We are the consumer of the world, we buy everyone's junk and that's yeah, we can stop Yeah I think we mind I think that's what everybody is worried about price you know junk has to have Has to be cheap Yes I want to play that's why I think that you know now Teemu and she and those guys are big enough that they should be able to relocate to Vietnam or do something else and still stay in business. It's going to be a it's going to be a moment where they can't

1:10:47 But I mean, you just can't do that instantly. Well Vietnam... The Chinese are fast at putting buildings up they're faster than we are by a lot. Vietnam is talking about zero tariffs they're already like oh! Vietnam has caved yeah well the smart money Vietnam is one of the smartest countries in the world they have that one of the highest literacy rates of all civilized nations it's something like 97% very high Wow That's more then us It's way more than us. Yeah, and not only that but many are bilingual. They speak English they speak Vietnamese and it's a very smart country with a lot of craftsmen and it's kind of always underrated because the government itself is communist so it doesn't

1:11:33 I want to play this these Bloomberg clips about OPEC because i have some questions for you. The OPEC announcement came hours after people were already digesting the tariff decision, which had happened Wednesday in the U.S., but people woke up to it on Thursday here in the region. So we're already trading lower because of concerns about those tariffs, increasing inflation hurting economic activity which is something that we've been dealing with throughout this year really. Oil has been very volatile already but staying in that range and we just kind of went way below that. We lost about 7% give or take yesterday because that OPEC increase was much higher than expected. We expected OPEC to kind of roll over the increase that were seeing here in April

1:12:30 Okay, now the question is why did they do this? And I thought this was interesting. Why did OPEC decide to bring forward the timing of the extra barrel production to the market? Why did they do this now? Yeah so it had been a long kind of convoluted formula to bring this oil production back and really there bringing up basically three times as much for three months of increase in one basically. So as you say, bringing that forward we're still unwinding some of those voluntary cuts that some of the OPEC plus members have made and they're looking at inventories seeing them not as high maybe as they thought Of course one of the factors that we've been looking at all along really since COVID has been the recovery of China That demand there is still sluggish not coming back it as much as they would have wanted to support the market but we're not seeing that build up in inventories

1:13:19 Perhaps also there's some thinking by OPEC that a lot of the members had been cheating on their quotas anyway, overproducing anyway. So maybe these quotas kind of grow into the production as you will for some of those producers and then there is the idea that they have been losing market share with the Trump administration that wants to increase production now whether that is going happen or not because low oil prices that another question Maybe OPEC trying to forestall some of that Yeah By bringing down the price little bit here The oil baron keeps saying, no we're not going to drill. We're not going to drill baby drill and yet look at what's happening

1:13:56 Is this our friends in Saudi Arabia? I think it's a combination of things. One, they're afraid that we are going to drill and that is going to force prices down so they decided to put the screws on us by lowering prices... Thanks! ...by increasing output The other possibility is Trump has actually talked to them and said look you got to get this down Hey Saudi Arabia what's that in your mouth You know, and you also put a little pressure on Russia because they're making all their money on still making a lot of money in petroleum. It's probably a combination of things but definitely coming down it's going to keep gasoline prices lower should lower everything especially if we can get down into below 60 that would be great That really hurts American oil though I've always Well if they're not planning on drilling in the first place what difference does it make?

1:14:52 Yeah, yeah. But below 65 apparently is hurtful to what I've always understood Oh the poor babies Hey! Remember the oil baron sold his ranch for 15 million Yeah what is he bitching about? He's not bitchin' He's okay He's okay He's not crying He bought a new ranch already Let me just take a look at Exxon Mobil stock It's ridiculously high I will say I had some AI experience and i'm going to tell you that, um...I actually think this... I can't believe I'm gonna say this. This agentic AI? Agentic AI? Yeah well define that Well, I actually

1:15:44 I got a trial from well the child in last long from manis dot i am manus and a n us.im what agentic AI is it the way i see what its doing, is you say okay i need something done And it fires up a computer. It even I mean, I presume it says starting the computer so it starts a computer starts a browser Pulling a rope and it's just crazy Well that's like yeah, it was like starting you know an AWS you start up a little computer

1:16:26 It's already running, but anyway go on. I'm sorry, I'm into the semantics Yeah you are into the semantics but I am just telling you what it says. Okay so I start a computer and it starts a web browser And it tells you what it's doing and you see the URLs as its searching for stuff. And then, what AI does quite well is creating summaries and stuff like that but here's where I think... So basically an agent, you tell this agent go and do something Something I could do You know? I could do it myself and I can find all these things and I can search for it But why don't I pay three bucks for it

1:17:04 And the problem of course is that there's three bucks every single time you ask for something. This is very expensive, this agentic AI but you can even say hey I have a repetitive task... ...I have to go to this website and click all these different buttons Can you do it for me? Yes! It opens up the browser The computer's browser for you and you could do click-click-click-click It's basically like creating a macro And I think if there's anything AI will do besides the just most wonderful fake videos and pictures and whatever, which is what you'd expect from something that is basically built on GPUs. We know it's good at that. It's kind of a scripting macro tool. The question is how much will it really cost? At a certain point, if you're going to use this

1:18:01 Would you wind up paying $20,000 a year and that is thus cheaper than a? Forty five thousand dollar-a-year person But I don't see it going much further than this but that that part. I have to say is cool Because you can just it can do stuff that you want it to replicate And so in that case it's an agent stop yeah uh-huh What is it he had it due that it was so important that you were so impressed oh spinning up a web, a streaming radio station and I want to replicate it so... ...I wanted to start-up the same one different instances. And there's no way to do it with the streaming radio station

1:18:45 And so you have to do a whole bunch of things with custom crossfades, custom processing, custom playlists. And it would take me about an hour and hour-and-a-half to do that if I wanted to replicate that. So now I just tell the thing to do it and it costs me about $2.50—if that's the real price! That's what they're charging now. Once it really comes down to we've got to make money, it may cost too much." And that, I was impressed with that. But it's not... Can you have the same agent do your RSS feeds? Well now that's a good question! Yeah, I wouldn't see why not. You mean so... Now you have a little sub-product there Oh yeah, just.. That's what i'm saying but how much will it cost? I don't believe they're really charging

1:19:45 You know, I think they're going for market share here. Yeah so you'd think that they're shipping money with every time you give them three bucks or actually giving you a hundred dollars worth of product? So you get the free trial it's 1,000 credits! Give me 1000 credits well that blew off in like 3 minutes and like okay but i really want to try this say well let me buy some credits so you go $39 a month fully expected to cancel $39 is more than CHAT GPT. Now that's almost double CHAT GPT and really if I needed to do this on a regular basis you have to go to the two hundred ninety dollar month at that point it's like, I'll do it myself and I think that they're still shipping off money to me while doing that. I just can't believe that that's profitable but... You don't know for sure? Don't know for sure

1:20:40 But they've got a lot of VC investment. So we know the Silicon Valley strategy, so it's really not... We know that the deep-seek model or however they're doing it, the training doesn't seem to be so expensive supposedly. We'll see you know the Mag7 problem as as Besson said, versus the MAGA problem. But all these data centers where they're in the wrong place they need to be closer they you know they need to be cheaper it's really gonna be I mean hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars just a fire up expensive computers. I don't know if that model will work maybe better if I bought the model and use it in my own home? I don't know

1:21:24 But that thing, that's interesting. That does work and I can see where repetitive tasks that no one ever built to fix the stupidity this is a shortcut it seems like it works. I was surprised by that so I will relent a little bit but AI is not going to take over the world and eat the universe yeah Oh yes. Well I'm glad you're happy! Um, well...I'm marginally happy. The- I thought the price was uh...was steep. Yeah? Price was steep. What's your time worth on that sort of thing? I got nothing but time man what are you talking about i got nothing but time But then you don't need to buy anything so

1:22:16 Let's talk about the dead bees. We were going to do that in the last show Yes, finally! Finally before we all die let's talk about the bees you have where is it here? You have two dead bee clips Ah...dead bee Dead Bee The beekeeping industry is in crisis over the shocking and unexplained deaths of hundreds of millions of bees over the last eight months It could impact all of us as bees called the backbone of agriculture are responsible for pollinating more than a third of the nation's crops and current losses are unsustainable. Janet Chamleon has more on this stinging decline. This is what an unfolding disaster looks like in the U.S beekeeping industry

1:23:00 Each of these hives can hold as many as 80,000 bees. But for reasons no one can pinpoint the bees in all these hives and tens of thousands more have turned up dead Have you ever seen it this bad? Never not even close The data is showing us that this is the worst bee loss and recorded history Blake Shook is one of the nation's top beekeepers He owns Desert Creek Honey and several other beekeeping businesses One of them is rebuilding dead hives and he's receiving an alarming number of them. Where are they from? Yeah, these are from North Dakota that we're looking at right here over there We've got Florida back here. We've got Georgia I've got California over in that corner These play a critical role in US food production In addition to making honey They pollinate 75% of the fruits nuts and vegetables grown in the U.S It feels like I've heard this story before

1:23:55 Yeah, this is why we came up in the conversation after the show when we did some of these clips. Yes! We had to be die off I think was 10 years ago? 8 years ago? I have a 47 second clip from 2014 2014. Here we go Oregon leaders are taking action as thousands and thousands of bees are dying likely from pesticides it's a big concern because insects especially honeybees pollinate about 1 third of what we eat. There you go same report only they had an immediate culprit which was pesticides yeah they don't have the culprit for this one in there also that period, the 2014 bee die-off they also found some sort of mite

1:24:37 some little bug that was on the bees and they thought it might have not been to pesticides at all, but this mite who's causing nothing but trouble. They haven't identified anything with these bees are working on it, but this is a worse than before and it could be just unnecessary panic but this is a it's interesting here we go at part two. That's 15 billion dollars worth of crops if this is a multi-year thing, It'll change the way we consume food in the United States that's a pretty significant statement.

1:25:13 It's huge. I mean, if we lose 80% of our bees every year the industry cannot survive which means we cannot pollinate at the scale that we need to produce food in the United States So what is causing this deaths and why now? These are dead bees in there and they have always an identifier for a project. Juliana Rangel is an entomologist at Texas A&M University she showed us the lab where they've been studying the bees one potential explanation is that over the last few years we've seen some locations across the US that have had lower forage available for bees so when they're supposed to be blooming let's say in April their blooming either earlier in the year or later in the year, and so we have these

1:25:56 food deserts basically in the summer and fall that the bees sometimes cannot withstand. Back at Shook's bee farm, we suited up for a look at his commercial operation. Okay you ready? Yep! Alright first thing we do is smoke the insurance And that calms the bees down. This is what a healthy hive looks like and then in the center here, this is where the baby bees are raised these just returned from California where the bees were used to pollinate almonds. Why are honey bees so essential to pollinating the almond crops? With honey bees, almonds produce 2-3 thousand pounds per acre. Without bees they produce 200 pounds per acre So there is no almond crop without honeybees Beekeeping groups say the losses may put as many 25% of commercial operations out of business by year's end

1:26:46 with wide-reaching impact. I got a call from my friend who has 20,000 beehives at the start of winter and he's at less than 1,000 and he said this is it. I'm done. Hmm well? Yep there are bad news. They're killing the bees! How about two funny M5M clips This is actually this is not even it's not even that funny. It's more puzzling the FCC is asking for the public's input on its idea to revise or eliminate some regulations

1:27:23 on TV station ownership. The initiative is called Delete, Delete, Delete! The FCC chairman says he wants to promote local journalism by eliminating long-standing rules that put limits on ownership our parent company Nextstar believes this will help local news survive and stay competitive into the future. What? The FCC is accepting comments from the public through April 14th For more information, you can visit yourvoice.nxt.io big corporations owning more stations, how will that stimulate local news? I don't believe it for a second. It doesn't have any bearing this is bullcrap! So is this... This is one of those yeah if we do it this way it'll be better but just saying it's gonna be better doesn't mean it's gonna be better and if its illogic that's involved which is what we have here again long game

1:28:27 What if this is the administration going, yeah you guys can own anything you want. Go ahead it's gonna make news great! I mean here's an example of what this results in This is a supercut from only a handful of very large corporations who own all the media Yeah I hear you screaming BlackRock owns everything sure This is the Maryland man supercut. deporting a Maryland father to El Salvador. The Maryland man deported to El Salvador, Africa an administrative error there's actually a court hearing involving the Maryland father of the Maryland fathers case is in court and happening now a hearing for a Maryland man details about a Maryland men tonight the Maryland man the Maryland man Maryland father with protected

1:29:34 legal status. A Maryland father with protected legal status. The Maryland father, that Maryland father, a Maryland father, the Maryland father, a Maryland father, a Maryland father, one of the things that struck me was the lawyer for the Maryland man saying there is no such thing as a removal order to nowhere More of that, please. More of that let them own it. That's exactly what you'd end up with already was Sinclair broadcasting is the worst case of that sort of thing. They are bad. I mean they're supposed to be and they're supposed to be the conservative network there in Austin think then Austin Claire thought they were in the Northeast. No, I think their awesome Austin headquarters or they were by the way all of this

1:30:28 you know, deported the wrong guy. My favorite is the gay hairdresser." There's no evidence that the gay hairdresser was thrown into the El Salvador jail I have not seen any true evidence of this just talk have you seen anything? No none whatsoever even here's the poor gay hair the poor gay hairdresser which had It was all tatted up so that must make this why they did it because they're careless. Homan is careless! Well here's the thing, MS-13 has no hair. That's a good point. None of those guys have hair. They're all bald. They're all bald that's part of the look

1:31:12 But I hear all these, uh... deported wrongly made a mistake clerical error blah blah blah but i don't see why is the media not highlighting crying children of Maryland man and gay hair well gay hairdresser maybe doesn't have kids Why don't they have mothers crying? I don't see it. If it was there they would certainly be showing it Oh yeah That's always to tell for me By the way Canada Hello Canada, we love you. Hello Canada! And now that Tom Ford loves us... Man remember that? Tom Ford he loves us He loves us wants to give us minerals take my minerals so Mark Carney is a he sees the writing on the wall Oh We better do something for Canada. We gotta do something but I think we should build government housing

1:32:07 Government housing. Hundreds of thousands of government homes up to half a million, by the way you won't own them they will be rentals We used to build things in this country. After the Second World War, Canada faced a housing crisis The government built prefabricated homes that were easy to assemble and inexpensive And those homes are still here 80 years later Now we're in another housing crisis and it's time your government got back into the business of building affordable homes We will build new homes for Canadians at a pace not seen since the Second World War We'll Build A Canada you can afford. Yes, we'll build a Canada and here's Polyev's response to this ludicrous idea He wants to put the liberal policies on steroids His housing plan I don't know if you saw this earlier this week he wants to create A government-run construction company that is going to make prefab tiny homes with no parking spots This is his idea for housing

1:33:08 This is even more radical than the stuff that came from Stephen Gilbo and Justin Trudeau over the last 10 years. This is not a serious plan to protect our economy and break our dependence I love it! Everybody gets a tiny home With no parking No parking, you don't need parking You'll have a 15 minute city Yeah you walk, walk everywhere Get a bicycle 15 minutes city of tiny homes Sounds great. We'll talk about the protests big protest over the weekend big big protests all run by acts blue and And some odd Union as well there were some union unions involved with this but I was a workers party But if you look at the what was it called identify where those guys call the identity? Yeah, I think is identified not identify something else No If you look at their website and you always go to just hit the donation link people

1:34:08 Act Blue, that is a Democrat party system. That should have been yeah and they do a lot of embezzling just like Win Red for the Republicans which I think...I've never even seen or heard of win red Yeah that's the what's-his-face Trumps son in law Hmm, you know the one who's married to the daughter that one. Yeah Jared Jared Jared what's his name? Jared? The guy with Subway subway sandwiches Jared Kushner. There you go It's Kushner's deal Kushner make him I he might have sold it but he was making bank in the first yes another Scammer skimmer protests BBC us sir with that is it from the World Service?

1:35:00 Yes, it is actually. Oh hold on a second I Promised World Service clips and I've got him yeah, okay? There we go And now, live from London we bring you the BBC World Service as we look around the globe for things taking place in your world. In this case we go to the protests against the evil President of the United States Donald J Trump This is The BBC! Tens of thousands of protesters marched in Washington and other major American cities on Saturday denouncing President Trump and what they consider his authoritarian policies. It was the largest single day of demonstrations against Mr Trump since his return to office

1:35:52 Protesters condemned the dismissal of government officials, the breakup of the Federal Department of Education and the President's sweeping new trade tariffs. These people said that the administration's actions would damage the economy and leave the USA weaker Stock market's crashing, the economy is gonna crash. It's already crashing and it's all about Trump. His actions his stupidity his mistakes One of my major concerns is how much disinformation that they are perpetuating out in the public That basic science and basic facts that our democracy depends on Is being torn down And when that happens people get hurt Our democracy depends on science

1:36:33 It's being torn down and people are getting hurt. They're beginning to get hurt, well some people are getting hurt. People who losing their jobs are getting hurt. Well that for sure so let's I have two more clips from the NPR but before we do that I have an interregnum clip. Interregnum? Yeah, I just have a short 14-second clip of some of the Trump... you talked these through but we have here are some Trump protests chants. Oh good! Let me guess is it hey hey ho ho? Trump's no good Elon's got to go is that one of the chants? It's close know as well you'll hear them

1:37:10 Donald Trump has got to go. Hey, hey! Ho ho! Hey Trump you liar we set your ass on fire. No Trump no KKK no fascist USA. Yeah, we had the handout with those. Did we have the Trump you liar your pants are on fire? Was that in there I don't remember it This may be something for new for this weekend They paid some PR firm a lot of money to come up with that Listen guys We really need work on our chance

1:37:46 Can you come up with a list for us? A chance. Our chance, yeah. Hey hey ho ho has got to go itself! Donald Trump, you're a liar You're setting your own house on fire Genius people I think it's his pants on fire in that one. Okay, pants on fire... So how old are they? Liar liar pants-on-fire seriously yeah How old are they? It turns out that most of the people in most of these protests were all in their 70s Yes there was some younger ones in New York but I'll let you play your clips first Yeah well we'd let's start with this There's a woman on TikTok and YouTube who goes out and does interviews with people, this is the TikTok clip by the way. And even though it was not... I got it off Twitter. And she wears that... Musk was not elected!

1:38:36 And so she can goad people. She agrees with them, oh yeah he's crazy and she does these interviews and it's really pretty good stuff because she gets people to say... Because they think that she is an ally So they go off to beat Ben Oh one of these? That's always funny It's very funny because people get suckered so easily and she says, you're right Yo, yeah what else? And so she found one guy who is completely off the rails. To the criminal charge of rape! He is credibly alleged of having raped a 14 year old girl. Is that what you want for your president?! Absolutely not! Wait...is that...?

1:37:46 Can you come up with a list for us? A chance. Our chance, yeah. Hey hey ho ho has got to go itself! Donald Trump, you're a liar You're setting your own house on fire Genius people I think it's his pants on fire in that one. Okay, pants on fire... So how old are they? Liar liar pants-on-fire seriously yeah How old are they? It turns out that most of the people in most of these protests were all in their 70s Yes there was some younger ones in New York but I'll let you play your clips first Yeah well we'd let's start with this There's a woman on TikTok and YouTube who goes out and does interviews with people, this is the TikTok clip by the way. And even though it was not... I got it off Twitter. And she wears that... Musk was not elected!

1:38:36 And so she can goad people. She agrees with them, oh yeah he's crazy and she does these interviews and it's really pretty good stuff because she gets people to say... Because they think that she is an ally So they go off to beat Ben Oh one of these? That's always funny It's very funny because people get suckered so easily and she says, you're right Yo, yeah what else? And so she found one guy who is completely off the rails. To the criminal charge of rape! He is credibly alleged of having raped a 14 year old girl. Is that what you want for your president?! Absolutely not! Wait...is that...?

1:39:19 When did this come up? Who knows?! Which one are you guys talking about? I'm sorry, I interrupted. You're good my friend! I was talking about our alleged president, our fascist, nazified idiot moronic The mango menace right break our NATO alliance turn our allies against us steal our money throw 71 people 71 million people off Medicaid that people depend on 71 million people Is this what you want? Do you want money taken from your grandma, do you wanna not support battered women and abuse children. Is that what you believe stand up and say it fascist stand up and say it I'm standing up and saying when I believe you stand up and say what you believe and not platitudes and not idolatry let's hear ideas You have no ideas all you have is hate racism stupidity and greed a round of applause for that right there he has been waiting awhile for that

1:40:16 No, hold on no no no no you've got to stop. You've got a stop I don't think so, but okay. I do. That was a great clip that is a delusional dem if I ever heard one that was for sure this girl she also has these two bodyguards that are near her look like they're in this case they were at the Tesla thing and they were behind her as though they were guarding the Tesla factory

1:40:53 And they kept getting called out, but I... But they're always around these two guys and there are two guys just in case somebody gets you know to text this woman. Yeah Because she's goading them into saying all kinds of crazy stuff and she goes from person-to-person with this Elon was an elected thing as though she's a, uh...an ally. It's just very well done The thing that's disturbing is he sounds like he really believes that Oh no, he does He was incredibly sincere His hair was disheveled and he looked a little like- He was probably around 60 And he looked like Bernie Sanders a little bit Oh, oh Just going nuts I mean, 71 million kicked off Medicaid? It's factually just not true

1:41:33 I don't understand where... No, everything you said is factually not true. It's beside the point! Trump is a rapist or raping a 14-year old? Where'd that come from?! Well and he should take it back to the PP tape. Where's the PP tape!? Hey who was it who was it who was it was the actor who was gonna show us that again oh it was uh Roseanne's ex husband Tom Arnold. I got yeah, he's gonna reveal the tape. I got the tape. Good memory on that one. That's about all I got. Protests USA this is the NPR rap I believe. Thousands of anti-Trump protesters took to the streets today in cities across the country including Atlanta Boston Cincinnati and New York take a

1:42:15 Still listen to the scene from The Nation's Capital. NPR's Emily Fang was at the protest in Washington, D.C., and joins us now. Good to have you with us, Emily. Thanks for having me, Asma. Me too. why people are protesting. They're protesting what they say is executive overreach by President Trump and his ally billionaire Elon Musk. Here's a sampling of signs among hundreds that I saw at the mall today in Washington, there was one that said quote you can't spell felon without Elon another that said hands off due process Hold on hold on

1:42:51 Call the agency. That was good. That's a good one I have to say that's a good one. So the top concerns among protesters I saw today, inflation brought on by trade tariffs. The role that Musk has in the current government because he is not an elected official and also many kinds of worries about the expansion of executive power. You mentioned there's a expansion of executive power did you hear specific concerns about that from protesters? Absolutely. Here's Juliana, a federal employee who did not want her full name aired because she is afraid of being fired herself She was holding a sign that said quote I need to be able to tell my children I did not stay silent This time around...uhh..I have concerns that I wonder if we will have an election To be frank She specifically fears Trump may seek a third presidential term even though this is unconstitutional This is expressly prohibited by the 22nd amendment

1:43:52 And this, so this is the brilliance. Trump in this regard it's just so smart he knows He just throws his stuff out there and that's all they can talk about all they can report on and it makes you sound idiotic I don't think they realize it. That is trolling to the nth degree obviously Yeah, he's a great troll yeah It's beautiful And the grid's gonna go down. The grid, here we go. Another protester I talked to Austin Shriver drove in from Virginia nearby and he and a friend were holding signs saying no kings. He said he was angry about executive orders cracking down on immigration. If the president can decide that he is going to ignore the courts when they tell him he is doing the wrong thing then the court have no power to check

1:44:44 He's referring to this ongoing legal case where a federal judge says there was the possibility that Trump administration ignored his court order to stop deportation flights to El Salvador last month. You know, Emily it seems like the left has been struggling with how to oppose Trump these last couple of months. It seems the Left has been struggling. That's all you needed to say boom stop full-stop. It seems like The Left has been struggling with how to oppose Trump these last couple of months. We haven't seen the large-scale protests that we saw during Trump's first term today seems to have been kind of the first public opposition to President Trump second term I'm curious what you were tracking outside of Washington? These protests are happening all over the country there are about 1,200 if what organizers are calling hands off mass action protests in a sizable demonstrations at state capitals and park city halls etc nationwide

1:45:37 Have you heard anything from President Trump about the protest today? He's out playing golf at his club in Florida today and has not given any interviews But the White House did say in a statement that his position is quote clear. He will always protect Social Security Medicare and Medicaid for eligible beneficiaries though The statement did not address the protest directly Well, why didn't they say? Why didn't they say well then he lied because clearly he has taken kicked us 71 million people off of Medicaid Why didn't they say that yeah we just heard it We just heard the guy say that Bless you. I have a report... Wait, before we finish i got one last one. No sorry Because this was even though it's actually 1300 protests that were organized by Soros' boys there was world protest too! I don't know how they pulled this off but this is the world world protest NPR reported on that too just anti-Trump demonstrations took place around the country today and... Anti Trump? What?!

1:46:33 Anti-Trump demonstrations in Paris. I mean, come on! Yes anti Trump demonstrations took place around the country today and across Europe as me Nicholson reports the protests follow Trump's new tariffs on nearly all the goods The US imports because many worry it may threaten prosperity and peace. American citizens living in Berlin gathered in front of a Tesla showroom on Saturday to demand an end to the chaos back home, In a message meant for Trump advisor Elon Musk one protester was holding a banner reading shut up Elon no one voted for you. Similar sentiment was clear at protests in Frankfurt Paris and Lisbon where signs read silence is complicity

1:47:14 In London, hundreds of Americans gathered in Trafalgar Square and chanted hands off Canada. It was Americans protesting in Trafalgar Square so it was expats who don't even live in America. What are you worried about? In Trafalgar Square and chanted hands off Canada, hands off Greenland, hands off Ukraine the demonstrations come as markets have plummeted in reaction to Trump's tariffs for NPR News I'm Esmeen Nicholson in Berlin Alright, I have a report on the worldwide protests. and the new slew of tariffs that have tanked global stock markets. Their tariffs are not only impotent, they're illegal! They're unconstitutional and we're going to turn this around That's Raskin at one of these things? They're illegal, they're unconstitutional Protesters also took to the streets in Paris London And other European capitals The policies Trump is following Are a threat to the world The world as we have come to know it

1:48:28 and enjoy it. Yeah, with cheap Chinese junk! As very privileged Westerners... Today we really want to send a message of solidarity to our friends and families back in America President Trump is spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago estate here in South Florida Some new tariffs on goods imported into the U.S went into effect Saturday triggering customs agents' collections at ports of entry In a post on Truth Social The president asked Americans to hang tough calling the tariffs an economic revolution. But many consumers say they are worried a YouGov poll finds that just over two-thirds of Americans think the price of goods they typically buy will rise

1:49:10 Here's the New York protest and here is where the union lady shows up. Tell me what democracy looks like! Protesters gathered in and around Bryant Park, shoes sloshing through puddles on a rainy Saturday afternoon This hands off protest is one of several happening throughout New York City and all 50 states according to organizers This is not about efficiency this is about control and power the destruction of the United States. People showed up to stand up against some of the Trump administration's latest moves like the implementation of tariffs, immigration operations and reducing the size of some federal agencies while eliminating others altogether. Eileen Chen is a federal worker with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. A federal judge recently blocked the Trump administration's attempt to dismantle it. They tried to shut down our entire agency and

1:50:06 Many, many of my coworkers were fired. But because we've all come together through our really strong union, we were actually able to get every single person reinstated. Others say they're concerned about Elon Musk who has pushed policies to reduce federal spending in his role as the head of the Department of Government Efficiency The administration has said Doge's purpose is to rid the government of waste, fraud and abuse. Musk has spoken about his role in trying to dismantle USAID which offers humanitarian aid to countries. This is no longer a democracy this is total abuse of our freedom that's number one

1:50:47 I could go on for a long time, but cutting USAID aid For me it has been the most disgusting thing that this government has done. This is so disgusting So I went to hands off 2025 and that is a That is a website they say right there of indivisibleindivisible org and You go to join the movement The donate part Indivisible is a movement of thousands of local groups and millions of activists committed to defeating mega extremism, advancing progressive policies and building a democracy that works for us all. Our movement is powered by people! We do not accept funding from corporations political parties or their leaders." No you're taking money for political parties because it says right there Act Blue and the Act Blue

1:51:41 is the merchant of record for Active Blue Civics, Inc. Come on! Which is a 501c4 which they call a social welfare organization but I think that means you can have... you can lobby so it's politics as usual Yeah, I think they create a lot of front groups those guys but the left has always done this good communist idea you just have us long tail Long tail or front groups. You know you played One of your clips talked about the Department of Education? I think he received this clip as well But I thought it would be interesting enough to play it one of our producers sent it This is 1980

1:52:21 Ronald Reagan talking about the Department of Education that he wanted to get rid of it, but tell me what you find the most interesting in this from 1980. I propose and would have already started if your hypothesis is correct a planned and orderly transfer back to the states and local communities functions the federal government has usurped in which it has proven it is incapable of operating And one of the first of those would be welfare One of the second would be in the field of education. I would like to dissolve the $10 billion National Department of Education created by President Carter and turn schools back to local school districts where we built the greatest public school system the world has ever seen. I think that I can make a case that the decline in quality of public education began when federal aid became federal interference." Now, what was remarkable about this?

1:53:17 I like the phrase federal aid became federal interference. It was a ten billion dollar Oh yeah, it was 10 billion and now it's like 250 or whatever. I know that too. There is inflation but inflation should be like a hundred billion. Inflation would be... But from that was from about 85 or 84 when he gave that speech and inflation is not at 10x from there It would be 10 x from 1970 So probably more like 80 Yeah Or 70 billion instead of way up there Yeah, it's a scam. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the cheap junk from China say hello to my friend on the other end The Birthday Boy Ladies and gentlemen Mr John C Devorah! Yeah well good morning to you as Adam Crane, the owner of ships Seaboots Underground, Fiendy Airsubs, and the water and dames and knights out there Hello dames and knights, hello trolls how do ya' do? Let's get a little talk to check here Alright

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1:56:40 People actually got disturbed by it. I think Darren O'Neill said, I don't even recommend listening to this episode because this art is so disturbing This was the gay dog or at least the dog with the rainbow shirt And the more i look at it The more i agree It borders on gruesome Get the gruesome part. It's creepy it's creepy there's no doubt about that because the legs of the dog or different legs are too long and the dogs stand in there with a With a rainbow shirt, and then there was the quarter which is the kicker that I thought made it work Yes, yes That was a core very very subtle

1:57:23 Very subtle. I don't know if anyone got that but we thought it was you and I had comments at the At the big meetup in Oakland about this art Same thing they thought it was would be trying to Steve impact crazy Steve the guy who does all these crazy Steve Who's crazy Steve crazy? Steve's a guy organizes all these meat Oh, oh you crazy Steve is that the guy who says he had my hair set crazy Steve. Oh No, no that guy wasn't even at this meetup. Oh okay. Crazy Steve's the organizer you know who it is I didn't and he wants to go down organize one down by in Fredericksburg He says i'm gonna do one in Fredericksburg. I'll show up. And then he says so I can understand why Adam didn't show up to the other one with a two-hour drive. No am I going to do that?

1:58:08 And I said, yeah if you could put one in Fredericksburg just check to make sure it's not in Europe. Yes please let me know. I mean organize... Yeah you can do it he'll be glad to show up Of course of course I'll go of course go ahead crazy Steve! querying me about the artwork, thinking it was... What is this? Why? What is this? Well do you think that because you kind of have a rule that creepy or gruesome artwork if its bad for the show and I think that Yeah cause there's association. I don't like the association so you see Noah Jenner in some gruesome picture and then you say oh no agenda is bad But I literally had people saying they didn't even want to listen to the episode because of the art That reflects poorly on the show! Well we made an error then

1:58:53 But I don't see it. I think it's a funny piece, you got a stupid dog wearing an outfit and he's standing there with his tongue hanging out and there's a quarter... And the whole thing was dynamite! It was a great piece! Yes, I thought it was good. I liked it. And the quarter is referenced to, you know, the dog drops. You said that. Someone's got to pick up the course like picking up a soap, it says it's a running gay joke. Yeah yeah prison gay joke actually. Prison gay joke! Thank you, Scaramanga. We were also just pleased that Scaramanga did something that wasn't boobs. That was kind of interesting. So at the meetup we had a... I think it's Sir Montuck, the guy who is the sticker guy always brings a set of new stickers to the meetups and all the stickers are little No Agenda stickers he did a giant poster

1:59:52 About I think guys if I say three feet by two foot poster of very small Versions every artwork says show wonders. Oh, that's cool The whole thing is just a giant, you know... He should talk to noagendershop.com Get those guys to sell posters. That'd be one thing and he should send you a copy because he framed mine cause he figured if it's rolled up art I would just end up in my attic which is where we're... Nailed it! Next to many other items of interest Yes, yeah. Phoebe! And so he framed it and you could... He can send you a rolled up one because I'm pretty sure

2:00:33 that you would frame it and put it on the wall of, the Hall of Fame. Yes I have a wall in the garage. In my entire... It was in the garage? You were taking pictures there and everything was in the garage! Yeah so now I moved the Wall of Fame to the garage. We have an oversized garage because the guy we bought the house from he's a retailer and he had like ATM machines and all kinds All just all kinds of gear so it's... No, I used the garage as storage. No! Well we have very- no our garage is very clean Have you met my wife? It's very clean, very organized. I met you! Same thing... It's not storage but i did make one wall just like the old- No, talking about the guy original guy had putting ATM machines there he was using it as storage Oh yes he was yeah storage and he had a tray you know like a golf cart in there and other gear so it's really a three and a half car garage I guess So we don't have three cars that is ready for the flying car though

2:01:34 When that comes, I can park it in my garage. Anyway... Yes! I will frame it and hang on my wall. I'd love to. Other pieces of art? You know the... So Scaramanga also did the Podfather Awards you probably saw that He's been trying- he's been doing videos with you and me. I look disturbingly- so you look like you but uh..I look a bit like um... Who was the actor? Ed Begley Jr I don't know if that's not a good look. No, and thank you very much to Daniel J Lewis. Daniel J Lewis A lot of people like this idea. I'm just going to say it again. I knew that you were going to work on it and I know it was uh... You only had a couple days but I'm sure he'd be working very hard on the Podfather Awards this week He was-I can't believe we didn't do this! He got the domain name for us podfatherawards.com Hello? How stupid am I that I didn't register that right away

2:02:30 Very funny. Yeah, the class Bb. She's mad what she's mad that you didn't get this thing You're humiliating nose on the air know she's mad. She's mad about the microphone company That's what she's mad if I can tell it's alright Phoebe you'll get your money well You know it's a tariff situation we had to see how that shook out Well true the tariffs could be a big problem is I'm glad we didn't start that company We'd be broke Maybe not. Now it's time! Was there anything else that we like? There was a lot of toilet art... Yeah, the talking toilets. Really you know that little dog stood out I thought. There were couple other gay dogs. A lot of gay dogs.

2:03:18 There's a couple of dogs walking down the aisle that drop goes male dog wedding. Yeah Lot, a lot of gay dogs stop with the gay dogs The gummy bear Jesus both thought that was little sacrilegious in a way It wasn't a little Well the one that yes it was a little over-the-top But you know what? A lot of these make it into Are those the Geiger counters you have the one that digital 2112 man-made you see that one the Geiger counter? Is that the kind of Geiger next to the boomer humor fart cushion. No not at all it's nothing like that That kind of looks cool if they were like that I'd get one, that looks pretty cool no this no there was a die have it better looking yeah So anyway thank you all very much A lot of these pieces show up in our chapter art which You can enjoy on The Modern Podcast apps and If you use It In Your Car! It'll even change while your driving

2:04:18 Yeah, so you can get into a wreck. No you're not going to get into a wreck it's entertainment for the entire population of your vehicle. NoahGenToArtGenerator.com everybody can participate that is what makes it so good anybody can jump in and its good to see the artist working hard some AI some use AI in an appropriate manner according to Buzzkill Jr which is as a tool Because you really need talent to be able to make something no matter what tools you use. You know, Buzzkill Jr is at the event and he got into a discussion about AI because his work... He's doing work for banks and they just brought up this topic of... I was... my eyes were glazing over but they brought up the topic of trying to do some of the same stuff in Europe

2:05:11 And he goes on and on and on about how well you gotta register this, if you do this then you gotta do that. You got to be licensed for anything. So all the hoops you've gotta jump through to do the same work in Europe which is just look for bank fraud He says it's not worth even doing any work in Europe. He says that it's just not worth the trouble because there are too many regulations and I was brought to mind, yeah and they're going to compete with us on social networking or anything else? They can't do it! They can't get anything done. The Europeans are screwed up. Well they're trying to be protectionist and its gonna retard their economy if I could put it that way. It will retard their economy

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2:10:54 What? You know, women who like to cook are... What?! You know most women kill their husbands by poisoning them. I always tell that, Winston. You like to cook? Yeah, I do all the cooking in the house and that's the reason i do it. It just comes to mind...I'm sorry! I think its true. Women who like to cook are dangerous. They're dangerous because they can drop into you know something. This tip from your NOA gender show. Tip of the moment. Lifesaving tip

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2:20:38 And a goat counter, goat karma to counter this. Okay? I love you dad. I'm very blessed to be your son and now... You got this! I know you got it. Let me do that again. I'm butchering this. I love you dad. I'm very blessed to be your son and I know YOU GOT THIS! There we go He'd appreciate some Belgian frietkorte and a cold unsweetened Mountain Dew which of course doesn't exist for the roundtable For the time being i'm still a slave for the system So if I could request an f35 Karma to include a what in the world tagline to help me acquire the property and DOD affiliated employment. Oh man, I need to build my final home and Waco S compound in North Carolina! I'd greatly appreciate it thank you for your courage and four more years okay so we need to he needed the jobs karma and was there something else? Was there something else did I forget something here

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2:26:25 It is somewhat entertaining, I have to admit. It's pretty funny! I've gotten some fantastic stock tips listening to you and Horowitz thank you my investment advice to everyone is go long on quality coffee at a great price. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order, stay caffeinated! Eli the Coffee Guy." Now that's ad copy right there. That's very good. Very good. That's copy I like that And he does, he always tells his tale. He has a story that prefaces everything and then it you know so it looks like this... He could work for Young & Rubicam I'm telling ya! He's great! Which reminds me before we get to my last one here So I got a note, I don't have the note in front of me but its from one our producers

2:27:15 I mean, he's in advertising. You probably... you may have gotten this. He's in advertising and he's bemoaning the fact that we're bitching and moanin' about pharmaceutical ads We went through this whole conversation not two shows ago! On the show Well, we've talked about it but did we talk about this guy? Yes! Do it again Well, I'm just saying he was bitching and moaning And he said that we should back off And I don't understand how he could be this way Yeah, we had this whole conversation. You know... Did we? This is how it begins. Yeah well this is second thing to go What's the first? Short-term memories second thing to go What's the first I don't remember AHHHHH! I walked right into it I can't believe that you're still a sharp as attack Linda Lou Patkins' sharpest attack she's in Lakewood Colorado 200 bucks

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2:29:49 Okay, who did a report on this because I agree it is a plague. It is a plague on smartphone place Yes got some information in here you'd like yeah probably not I believe this was un NPR But let's listen to the Smart Vista's for clips Wow disgusting smartphones with an expert from some podunk University Who's an expert on smart how it screws us up? Many of us are addicted to the little computer that fits inside our pocket. The average American spends up to five hours a day on their smartphone, according to research but sending texts surfing the internet or endlessly doom-scrolling through social media releases hormones that literally stress our bodies

2:30:33 and our minds. We've talked about how important it is to restrict screen time for kids, but what about for you? For adults! And what can you do if you want to be less tied to your phone? Larry Rosen is a professor emeritus at California State University Dominguez... Well we can stop the whole sequence of clips right now the answer is Be Like John put your phone in the drawer done Larry Rosen is a professor emeritus at California State University, Dominguez Hills where he studies the psychological impacts of technology on our lives. His latest book is The Distracted Mind Ancient Brains in a High-Tech World. Larry Rosen thanks so much for talking with us. Thanks for having me! I start with that title of your book Our Minds are Ancient they've gotten to this point after thousands and thousands of years of evolution

2:31:22 and I got my first smartphone in 2007. Why is that important, worth pointing out? Well part of it is our brains can handle a certain amount of information and we're pretty good at it and we've had these qualities since the cavemen One of the problems is the smartphone in particular offers you so much from just your pocket that it's very distracting and it doesn't give you time to process information that you really need to process. I rarely send Joe Rogan a guest suggestion, this sounds like the guy he should talk to. I already know I'm gonna like this guy! I found it interesting that the average person with a smartphone spends five-and-a-half hours a day Oh? That's average... absolutely absolute now some of

2:32:18 It's screen time. It's screen time, but it's not all folly some of his is it? He's checking your email because you're so important sending important text messages to the group The grids going down They'll be JFK jr.. Is alive he's gonna be VP yes When I look at the stats on my phone, I've used it. It says an average this week of five hours and 23 minutes a day which according to the research looks like I'm pretty average right? So what does the science say about what that's doing to my body and to my mind or to anyone who spends that much time on a phone? So we started talking about addiction And i want to throw in another term which is obsession

2:33:06 Obsession is an anxiety-based system. So in your brain and body, you have chemicals all over the place. And one of the areas that you have chemicals is called the adrenal gland. And any time that you get stressed at all, that's because the adrenal gland has dumped some chemicals into your brain. The one that everybody knows is called cortisol So what happens to people, and you're right this is not just kids. This is everybody You do a task on your phone You message somebody, you go on social media Whatever it is that you are doing whatever your poison is And then you're done and then come back and do something else But while you are doing that something else

2:33:59 The cortisol is dripping in there. It's indicating that you're anxious. So wait a minute, let me just jump in here and ask you this because what I'm hearing you say is that using our phones releases a hormone, cortisol it literally stresses us out so why do we use it? Yeah, baby. It's good stuff! So now as I'm listening to this, I realize that when I first went to the idea of putting the phone in a drawer which actually began by accident because Team Mobile screwing up my order for renewal and I got so irked about it decided go with different direction I stopped using them altogether. Thanks T-Mobile another one

2:34:51 And so I ended up putting the phone in the drawer for a while and then after it took me, it was maybe two or three weeks. I realized that after having the phone in the drawer was actually great. Beneficial? And so, I stretched it out to went for one year that's when i talked to them tellers at the bank about this and they all thought was great that I could do that now its gone for two years pretty much keep his own dry have pulled it out on occasion or one thing or another like to get a uber Car for example, I'll use it for that. But it goes back in the drawer. I don't have didn't happen at the meetup yesterday So you but you are not a you text what you text from the computer right? I text from the computer from using Google Voice and do you feel that your behind-the-computer a lot for the texting? No, I very most of time. I don't have it open I usually only go to that text page once or twice a week just before this show text me

2:35:49 Newsletter! Newsletter! The text you or the text Mimi. Mimi's always saying, you gotta go look at your texts I said what? It says it's on Gmail I said Or not Gmail but Google Voice and okay so i open it up and there's a bunch of messages there but I'm not like tagging it ever Well, you also don't have a lot of people who want to text you. I mean that's... Well, you know what? You know why? If you're not online and you're not hanging out, if your not on the phone or in the group and contributing to these chats they stop texting because they know your not there! Your got the phone in a drawer Yeah but dont you feel left out of the group Noooo, I dont That is the great thing about it. I dont feel that way at all And this is why the Lib Joes don't talk anymore cause you left the group

2:36:39 See, I like being an Android green bubble because then people just look at me and scorn. I'm an outsider. You know that was interesting because you mentioned that there are people still out there with common sense... Because I took this phone to a dinner recently cause I had to get an Uber ride back cause I didn't want to drink and then drive home so I had the phone with me and somebody, a good friend of mine looks at the phone says what is that? And I said, what is that thing? He says is that an Android phone and he was like with disdain. Are you a tech guy? I can't believe you have that kind of phone! It really still exists this Apple iPhone bigotry Yes yes... I thought they would go away by now it makes no sense to me well differences are made I think my flip phone

2:37:40 People think it's cool. Yeah, well we're coming to that by the way in these clips That's why these clips are here all right number three yeah So why do we use it what happens is? We feel compelled we feel obsessed with Keeping up with things and we don't want to miss out on something because a lot of social activities that you might want to be involved in our on one of the, say TikTok. So this chemical cortisol in larger and larger quantities makes you feel anxious and it's the same kind of anxiety as if you were going to get up and speak to an audience your palms sweat your pits sweat your stomach has butterflies and you just feel weird You just feel uncomfortable That's the cortisol working

2:38:37 Hmm. Okay, yes I believe that now from there they go into a part I cut out all the rest of this well Can you get to the question because it? I mean it's not just the phone is what you have on the phone which should be social media and feeling left out of the news cycle. So it's not just the phone. Oh heaven forbid you miss a headline or, or what? Or a great Tik Tok video. I get those from Twitter and so they had a long exhibition of ways of breaking free from the phone by putting it at doing... It is a bunch of exercises that none of them made any sense to me except putting the phone in the drawer which they don't bring that up and so it goes on. I figured that was going to be my last clip

2:39:19 And then they come up with the flip phone stuff. Here we go with the last clip. Alright, some people have moved to old-fashioned flip phones Larry what do you think about that? Is that a good solution? You know, people have tried lots of solutions. They've tried taking people up to the mountains for a weekend without your phones at all. They've tried having you get a flip phone that basically acts as a dumb phone and none of it has worked. Which is why this all feels so out-of-our-control—you mentioned control—we know

2:39:55 that tech companies making this product are doing everything they can to keep us tied to that device. So I can see, we talked about addiction, I can see a path to quitting alcohol or tobacco. I do not see how we collectively separate ourselves from this technology. What are your thoughts? I don't think we have to separate ourselves from the technology. I think awareness is critical and the first part of awareness is looking at those screen time data and going, oh my god I didn't realize that was on so many hours. What can I cut back on? So what you have to do is recognize this gonna be uncomfortable for a while but as long as you stick with it and do those tech breaks where you get to look at your phone every 15-30 minutes You're gonna feel like okay i'm in good shape I can focus for 30 minutes talk to my spouse watch movie whatever

2:40:50 And it's not going to make me crazy. Yeah, this guy... I mean this is not new he's giving me nothing! I'm not excited by what he's saying That's because he doesn't have the phone in the drawer He is all-in. He's also addicted Oh yeah This is like talking you know just like people this is everybody's in denial about this problem including the expert. Yeah, I'm gonna cancel that invitation to Rogan you just got uninvited bro um hmm now that was a little disappointing because i thought that he would have a lot more but this is not this is not new information other than he had wrote a book about it just stop it! Just...I mean I'd leave my phone in the studio and at a set time maybe after dinner? I'll go take a look Is there anything? No okay and that's usually just

2:41:52 Is anything that's happening this important? You know with the show or whatever but I try to keep everything in one room and when I go out all I have and um When i go out if i'm only having had the flip phone of Tina, I will say i'm excited about the light phone Uh three is it the light phone three or the light throne almost like I pre-ordered one. It should be there should be shipping Because the problem with the flip phone is when I mean, I might as well not text because my writing has retarded significantly.

2:42:31 You know, it's the screen is small. I don't see the mistakes or some auto correct in there It's the most and of course i have dutch and english dictionary so it's throwing out entire words in dutch I don't see it was just dumb. I mean people I insult people without intending to like saying horrible things Oh yeah, it's no good but the light phone 3 I really think this might be the one. I had the Light Phone 2, which is really tiny and it's not easy to use with the Light Throne Phone 3 should be a good texting machine and it has a camera. I like that but you can't get there's no web browser or there's no email It has some of things you need a phone for like navigation handy

2:43:23 Podcasts, hello. Music, phone texts and I think that's it and a flashlight what more do you need in a phone? I don't know like mine is in the drawer Well you should write a book! I don't know what I'd say very short book put your phone in the drawer Cold turkey, man. Cold turkey. That's what this guy is. All you need to do is put a big gold star on the front. Instant best seller. Instant best seller! It has one page. Put your phone in a dr... No! Oh! You know what you do? Remember our buddy The Hollow Book Guy? Freehollowbooks.com

2:44:07 So how to get rid of your phone addiction, you open the book and you put your phone in the book. Put the phone in there! And close it now that's a premium item. And then put it up on this in the bookshelf yeah? Yeah that that's a good idea the ultimate guide to getting rid of your phone and you open it up and there's just a hole. You put your phone in, and put in on the bookshelf. That would sell! It's a great gag gift yeah I think it's a good gift, I like it well speaking of addiction there is a lawsuit against the major bookmakers these guys they are

2:44:44 I think females, women and girls get very addicted to the social nature. The texting in particular of the phone. Young boys? Oh boy! In January of 2025 alone Maryland bettors wagered more than $456 million $27 million on DraftKings and FanDuel. That's according to a new complaint filed Thursday by the city of Baltimore against two sportsbooks alleging misleading tactics. They'll call me and say like we have this promotion, blah blah blah We see you haven't been in a while, so they do stuff like that. Yeah. The city accuses them of engaging in deceptive and unfair practices to target and exploit vulnerable Baltimore users using algorithms to keep problem gamblers betting as well as misleading promotions like bonus bets and no swept

2:45:39 bets to create compulsive gambling behavior. The complaint reads defendants are not interested in people merely dipping their toes in the water, they want betters to bet insignificant amounts over and over some get hooked and that's the point. The law firm representing the city tells 11 news the sports books are in violation of the consumer protection ordinance if they don't see you wagering quickly enough they'll reach out to you and say, well you've been a little quiet. We're going to put a couple of hundred dollars in your account have at it so they do all these things to bring you closer and closer to them the Maryland Center of Excellence on problem gambling encourages folks to set up budget and time limits before opening up a sports betting app yeah I believe this to be completely true

2:46:30 I do too, because it's a known fact that people can easily be addicted to gambling. I can't get this idea out of my head... You guys got a publishing company? You've got TooManyEggs.com Let's do a book! Here is the book i want to do with you Adam Curry John C Dvorak The No Agenda Show Guide To Getting Rid Of Your Phone Addiction You're back on that?! Yes It would be a great idea! A hollow book This one you could actually execute on Well, the problem with that do hollow book is it mass producing the hollow book? It's not a problem I think it is you so lazy No, it's not a matter of laziness in this case. I may be besides that Jay does all the work for that publishing company Not me well tell Jay about lazy. I can assure you J about it She won't I am telling you right in advance at them unless we can find somebody in China Which is now gonna be impossible

2:47:33 to can do hollow books and mass-produce them because that would sell at least I don't know anywhere from five to twenty five thousand copies depending on what time of the year it is. This is a crazy thought just a crazy thought, ready? I'm gonna blow you away with my crazy thought I am convinced, without even doing the research that there is an American company that can do these at scale and they'd be happy to. And someone knows them and they're listening to this show right now." Okay! We're America man we don't need China... We are good in messaging through this show for marketing purposes There's no doubt about it. We will sell, sell, sell, sell, sell I tell you

2:48:18 And if not, we'll always get our guy Rutte to sell for us because man he is still out there selling us. As I said last week in Warsaw...I know there has been some tough language. I know that there have been allies on this side of the pond being worried about the long-term commitment of US to NATO And I was in the White House, but before I went to the White House we had President Macron there and Prime Minister Starmer. And on so many other occasions... Don't worry, the US is not going to leave NATO! The Americans have stated again and again that they are committed to NATO, they are committed to Article 5 This commitment comes with clear expectation, the expectation that... Spend more on our stuff! ...on this side

2:49:06 of the Atlantic and Canada. We will spend more, commit that we will deliver on the 2% and then move upwards because of these gaps we still have in this part... 5%, everybody! ...of NATO to deliver on all the targets And that's a process we're in the middle off In the meantime, hundreds of billions are rolling in as we speak This is, this is... He has brown shoes. What did he say? The hundreds of billions are what? The hundreds of billions are rolling in as we speak! It's great! In the meantime the hundreds of billions are rolling in as we speak. Where they're rolling into? That will continue no doubt over coming days and weeks is my expectation and um.. And we have to do this because of the Russian threat No! Because of increasing China Russia, China! Threat

2:49:59 So let's not be naive about that. But I'm absolutely convinced this alliance is there to stay with the US, their commitment is absolutely clear and we want to do more together in the inner Pacific even so and we want to work on many issues including in the Arctic and I think that it's also positive NATO is North Atlantic Treaty Organization, but we're going to do more in the Pacific. So it will be IPTO. A new organization... Indo-Pacific Trade Organizations or something. Okay? And remember there's more! When it comes to China... China! It's important

2:50:51 Let's be totally clear about this. We know that they help and support the Russia war effort through sanctions or conventions, through delivery of dual use goods so they are an integral part of the war efforts And now North Korea is sending its soldiers to Europe to fight a war here are repaying them not only with money but also as technology which... And hookers? In the end is also posing a threat to the United States and to the whole of NATO territory and into the Indo-Pacific. Oh no! Iran involved, very much involved in getting money from Russians by which they then... Wait wait wait, the Russians are giving money to Iran?! Can stir up even more trouble in the Middle East as Iranian's love to do directly through their proxies

2:51:37 in Lebanon. He's the best! He is a yak machine. This is really global issue. Let's not forget that. When it comes to MH17 this is very close to my heart and many in my country and Australia because As you know Australia was the second. Now he's bringing in MH17 as you know the Russians killed all those people on MH 17 not conclusive Hardest hit country with many people dying in MH-17 in that terrible disaster on the 17th of July 2014 196 from my country

2:52:20 And that means that I'm now not in the national government, but this is clearly a position The Dutch government has always stated and I have no reason to think that has changed. Okay wonderful so he brings up the threats many threats and Netanyahu was in Hungary and he talked about some threats and It's the h3 H 3 is the new threat But I would say Our cooperation goes deeper than that because I believe we are fighting a similar battle for the future of our common civilization. Our Judeo-Christian civilization, Western civilization as we understand it is under assault right now for one powerful quarter and that's radical Islam. Radical Islam in the Middle East is spearheaded by one country and that's Iran It has proxies The three H's

2:53:11 Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis and others. But the center of the pulsating engine is Iran We were attacked by Iran's proxies in a murderous campaign By Hamas terrorists who raped our women beheaded our men burnt our babies and took hostages which we're committed to bring back home all of them including a hostage of Hungarian citizenship, Umbri. We discussed this and we'll bring them back all home but we will smash the Iranian axis, the Iranian terror access which threatens not only us but Europe and many other

2:53:52 neighbors in the Middle East. We're committed to doing so, and by doing that we are also protecting Europe Maybe there's some in Europe who don't understand this but Viktor Orban understands it He understands this common battle for our values for our interests and for our common security And I want to thank you for that Well Hungary has no worry about radical Islam because they just didn't let him in like the rest of Europe Now he was talking to Christina she's moving out of Rotterdam She can't take it. Where's she gonna go? Zandam! Zandam, yeah she says I can't take it anymore. It is just not fun walking on the street as a woman and it's not radical Islam but it's definitely Moroccans. Yeah Moroccan horn dogs

2:54:43 Are they radical Islam? No, just the opposite. But you know we have had a couple of interesting things happen in the Netherlands and Amsterdam We had a guy just...and this was a Ukrainian I think He decided to go stab a bunch of people then some other dude drove his car onto the damn square and exploded it Well lit it on fire And he was on fire People are losing their ever-loving minds over there. Now the reason why Netanyahu was able to go there is because Hungary has renounced the International Criminal Court. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is facing an international arrest warrant and yet he received a red carpet welcome in Budapest by Prime Minister Viktor Orban, breaking the country's obligation to bring him into custody

2:55:32 Orban subsequently said he would quit the International Criminal Court. I was the Prime Minister who signed the document to join the ICC in 2000 and I was the one who signed the document to leave it in the past few days It is our conviction that, in recent years, it has become not a neutral legal court but a political court Netanyahu is wanted by the ICC for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip including starvation as a method of warfare, murder, persecution and other inhumane acts. His trip to Budapest is highly symbolic at a time when his army is expanding its military operations in the enclave. He's expected to spend four days meeting with officials trying to garner support Standing alongside Orban he too criticized the ICC saying Israel is fighting a just war with just means, he hailed Hungary's decision. Victor Orbán did you visit Epstein Island? They got something on him Well tell ya this

2:56:35 Danny, Yahoo's got an issue here with what happened to these Red Crescent people that were basically killed illegally by the IDF forces. I have a clip of this because it became a big topic on the BBC and elsewhere. Okay... It is... where is this clip? I don't see it. Yeah, Israel workers scandal. Okay the Israeli military has admitted its soldiers made mistakes over the killings of 15 emergency workers in Gaza after footage emerged casting doubt on its version of events The convoy came under fire near Rafa last week Israel had initially said the vehicles approached suspiciously and darkness without headlights or emergency lights

2:57:26 but video filmed by a paramedic killed in the shooting appeared to contradict those claims. Alfie Tobert reports The footage, published by the Palestine Red Crescent Society shows clearly marked vehicles with their headlights and emergency lights on at least one of the workers is wearing a reflective uniform it appears to contradict the Israeli military's original explanation for why it opened fire just seconds later At a briefing, an Israeli official admitted that account was inaccurate. They said the soldiers had earlier fired at a car containing three Hamas members and when the emergency convoy stopped nearby the troops assumed they were under threat Israel maintains at least six of the medics were linked to Hamas but it's not yet provided evidence to back up that claim

2:58:14 They're certainly fulfilling the prophecy of all the nations hating Israel. That is moving along just splendidly! Well, that brings me to an Ask Adam I'm glad you said that. Alright what's the question? Well there is a question... What is this all about because maybe Adam knows What this woman does tick tocker comes out with this? Commentary and then just ends it and I don't know what the hell she's talking about. Okay, so a hundred and forty four thousand Jewish Virgin males they're all men from the twelve tribes during the three days of darkness They will be activated That's where they are Jewish male virgins from the 12 tribes Thank you

2:59:11 Well, you've stumped me. The three days of darkness and the 144,000 Jewish virgins What are she talking about? I do not recall reading this in my Bible, but i will inquire for you. I will go to my theologian expert and friend Pastor Jimmy. I'll ask him about it. You know right off...you know actually thought you might know this right off the top of your head! That would be excellent if I did. Yeah, that would be, but I guess I was wrong okay well is it that Is the 12 from the 12 somehow? You don't have to try to figure it out. Just ask I'm not gonna, I will Now i do have some clips on child labor laws being back Child labor being back is a thing! You mean in your house?!

2:59:57 It's always been a thing in my house. You've always been for child labor and the family I think child labor is a good thing as soon And how was the kid? I was a paper boy Yeah, when I was a little kid and then I guess I got older but I worked there every summer and no That's not what I'm talking about through in the history of this show I could look it up But just trust me you have said no No, you gotta put the kids to work for the family business and you do yeah, and you do if you always have Jay and buzzkill jr both have worked and she still works for the family business, and I think it's great. It's like you're a farmer just not a crop. Exactly! You're a book farmer. I am a farmer in spirit. Book farmer. So here is the thing... this clip is about they've tried to change some of these laws because they don't want kids working even though it's legal at some point when I was a kid I remember

3:00:50 being in I think it was the eighth grade or high school where you if you were 15, I think you could be 15 and all you need is from a note from the high school called a work permit. And you could work like you wanted to work part-time during the week or whatever And it was no big deal. In fact, everyone relished these jobs because all the kids I'm not...I mean not all the kids worked but I was one of them. I always worked and when I did I had money and you know that's a big deal to have some cash on hand. When you have money you can get girls. Yeah, get the girls so

3:01:28 Let's listen to these clips. Some states have been loosening the rules around how much teens should be allowed to work on the job, and the Republican-led Florida legislature is debating questions like whether 14 year olds can have jobs or how late bosses can ask 16 year olds to work on school nights in Tallahassee WFSU Tristan Wood reports one proposal would allow 16 year old's work more than the current 30 hour a week cap including longer days and later hours, even on school nights. Another would loosen some limits on 14-year olds working if they're in homeschool virtual education or already graduated

3:02:07 One of the bills is sponsored by Tampa Republican State Senator Jay Collins. He says it is about parental rights and giving children more access to jobs. I believe that parents are best suited to take care of their kids, and manage their schedules, and make sure they're doing what's best for them. I don't understand why the state needs to go beyond federal regulations in this case Federal laws are weaker, but Florida already loosened some child labor laws last year. And the state isn't alone. Nina Mast is a policy and economic analyst at the Washington-based Economic Policy Institute which seeks to improve wages for working people

3:02:45 She says dozens of states have considered similar bills and several passed some last year. What we are seeing, especially coming out of the pandemic is really just a push that is led by the business industry and some right-wing think tanks to be able to make it easier to hire young people at lower wages for longer hours and in more hazardous jobs under the guise of wanting to address a so called labor shortage So it's under the guise, according to this lefty. And it is all right-wing think tanks and they don't want kids working! You know think about this we could set up an AI company that just has a bunch of kids who are filling out forms

3:03:33 Yeah, like the Indians do. Agentic AI and we just have kids do it! I love it's a good idea It is a good idea Onward Mast says the changes are intended to drive down wages that went up in lower paying industries during the pandemic Meaning jobs like servers and restaurants and delivery drivers This was really a concerted nationwide effort Stopping the clip You can't have a delivery driver who's 14 Let's start with that premise So we're dealing with false equivalencies and fake premises. Oh yeah, this is so they get delivery drivers like a 14-15 even 16 year old delivery driver I don't know so they can get them cheaper? No no no this is bullcrap. Meeting jobs like servers in restaurants and delivery drivers This was really a concerted nationwide effort to essentially create a permanent underclass of disempowered low wage workers

3:04:30 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis seemed to back the general idea of more minors in the labor force, speaking recently at an immigration panel that included US Immigration Czar Tom Homan. What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean like that's how it used to be when i was growing up Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally when teenagers used to work at these resorts? He didn't mention child labor laws but his comments were seized on by Democratic lawmakers who said child labor shouldn't be used to enable an immigration crackdown.

3:05:07 John Flitter, a political science professor at Kansas State University who's written a book on child labor laws agrees. Studies show that when kids start working you know these hours they do not do well in school some of them drop out and if you don't have a high school degree or diploma your not really going to be successful financially for the rest of your life Oh really? This is bull crap. Yeah, I mean go learn how to weld. And this is a permanent underclass and then DeSantis himself says he used to work like that when he was a kid He's the governor of the state How's that a permanent underclass? We need... Besides we're talking about 14 and 15 year olds who do not stay that age for more than a year

3:05:49 This whole thing is like a design to promote immigration. No, we don't want the kids working and we don't want them having any jobs or learning any life skills. Screw the kids of America! Bring in some immigrants that's all this is about bring back apprenticeships there's another good thing that would that's exactly right where you'd learn something but no, no it was an exploitation a permanent underclass. You sound very upset by this I am very upset because i used to work... It all stems from the one experience I had probably 25 years ago

3:06:26 I was bitching and moaning, it was in Port Townshend Washington. And I remember exactly where it took place and there was a bunch of kids and they were sitting around doing nothing. And I don't know like got into conversation with them- Were they your kids? Just random kids? No they were just a bunch of kids, I don't who they were. You just walked up to the kids? They're just, they're Ne'er Do Well high schoolers. Somehow we got into a conversation and I talked about When I was, I don't understand why you're here or you know get a part-time job. You could be doing something. I'm sounding like an old man and but the point was that kids called me out they said when you were a kid it was different we can't...we would love to get a job! We can't get a job there are no jobs for us so you can complain about this all you want he says the guy

3:07:15 the guy, but you can't...you know you're talking to the wrong people because we I loved to go get a job for this summer. It was during the summer and it really affected me And ever since then, I've noticed this whole idea of let's keep the kids from working. Let's don't let them... Don't do it! Let's bring in immigrants and have them do the jobs." Then I remembered like how he used to be a paperboy and that paperboy job eventually fell onto the immigrants who drove cars around and started delivering their papers door-to-door out of a car throwing the paper out of the window It is just like the whole thing is designed to screw the American public

3:07:55 And listen to these apologists really gets me irked. We need to stop using the paper boy as an example because that... Well there's no such thing and people don't know what I'm talking about, you can't get the newspaper anymore. But I learned how to shoe horses with a blacksmith I learned how to... You did? Yes. I've told you this story, I don't remember you shooing horses We had Cor, we had Cor de Smith and he was the blacksmith and he did all kinds of stuff but uh i had an apprenticeship with him two or three days a week and then he'd teach me how to shoe horses which is a dynamite way to get rid of the sniffles And then the minute you put a hot horse shoe on a horse's hoof

3:08:42 and it was smelled, and then banging it out on the anvil. Oh yeah! It was great... And you have to stand behind the horse and then take his rear leg and put it between your knees? Oh yeah! Now not a lot of apprenticeships in horseshoeing either but welding- There's lots of apprenticeship all over the place for all kinds if they existed but they pulled them from the market because oh let's just bring some immigrants in and let them work cheap Yeah These apologists for this screw up unacceptable to me and this is NPR at its best. State Senator Collins defends his legislation, saying teens working jobs provides other skills they can't get in school. We want our kids to be academically prepared but let's talk about soft skills Let's talk about adult function Let's talk about executive thought process and management Where do they learn that? Do we teach them that in school I think if you go look at what is going on, we really don't We don't prepare them for executive function, we don't even have home echo and things like that

3:09:42 It's unclear what will pass Florida's legislature. The Senate president and House speakers both say they are unsure about further reducing child labor protections, but in a committee meeting this week lawmakers raised the idea of loosening rules for 13 year olds to work in the summer Well, oh you have to loosen their rule so a thirteen-year old yeah can work in this summer Oh No Yeah. Permanent underclass! I mean, around here in Fredericksburg there's plenty of opportunities you can work with Paul the septic guy... The septic? Hey let me tell you, Paul the septic guy does pretty good. He does yeah a lot of septic out there You can work with Pete the well-guy, you can work with Shane the electrician he'd love to have some apprenticeship it's hard for him to get paid workers who understand what they're doing

3:10:40 Anyway, and we're old men. By the way I need to brush up on my eschatology And I will be the first admit revelation is not my book it's a very very very complicated one Revelation 7 for then I heard the number of those who were sealed 144 thousand from all the tribes of Israel there's nothing about virgins or three days of darkness This is end times stuff man. End times, that's what she was talking about. The end times are coming! Yeah exactly and Macron is the anti-christ Well someone sent me actually an interesting thing

3:11:28 He's not doing... by the way, as an anti-Christ he stinks. Okay? He is no good as an anti Christ I agree One of Daniels description of the Anti Christ is he's be without the love of a woman Well..I'm just saying That's a good one! That's right, we keep our eyes on the end times for you. Only partially joking and now we want to thank the rest of our supporters donors and lovers and producers who sent some value to us $50 and above I'm sure there are some people there who gave these lovely 7373 donation which probably came in as 7643 if you added the fees And these are all happy birthday wishes well wishes for John and i want to thank y'all for making johns birthday a very happy one

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3:14:05 Cole Gregory in Amherst, Ohio. 8008 Kevin McLaughlin there he is He's the Duke of Luna lover of American boobs 8008 and now we start with the happy birthdays The first one is kind of high because it came in from Paris France and all with all they I guess that rigmarole Sheila Send a happy birthday from Paris party this 7982 warm wishes Sheila from Paris Jason Sheppard in Trinidad, Colorado. A 7643 and I'm just gonna read the names of locations of all these birthday well-wishers starting with Jason Frank van de Ven in Mass Mechelen? Mass Mechelen? Moss, Moss. Mass Mechelen Belgium is it Belgium yeah Belgium 70s

3:14:58 Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona and Jeff Jack I'm sorry Schofield in Yankee Town, Florida. Anonymous in Pennsylvania Dame Beth in Tucson Arizona by the way somebody also handed off a couple of silver coins and I didn't get their name on them so sorry about that Dan Martin in Washugel, I know most of these Washington towns but never heard of this one. Washugel. 73's W1 BUS. 73s. Fans of y'all since you worked at a place in the TV, TechTV. Hannah Hamm Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs Illinois Michael Mayers in Diamond Head Mississippi

3:15:52 Sir Goat of the Hill in Pleasant Ridge, Michigan. Commodore G in Cincinnati. Danella Daniela I think. Pompompo in Los Angeles California. Visit LA she writes. Dorothy Schroedert in Corvallis Oregon. Eric Hannah in Chicago Anonymous and Georgia Bruce Hutchison in Anthem, Arizona. Colonel John C., J-A-W-N-C... Kind of interesting. Enjoy your biscuits in Bordeaux! He's from Kirkland. Randy O'Rourke, parts unknown. Kirk Struck. Jason Babcock

3:16:50 Dame Astrid and Sir Mark the camp they came in. That's nice. Best boomer ever, they say And that's me. That's right when I can complain is with the best of them Dame Lacey and Lake Mills wishing wish again wish again wish again. I'm using that from now on Wish again Wisconsin. Sir, Dirty Jersey Whore in Gladewater Texas have you ever run into him? Yes many times he's about seven feet tall lovely wife... Yes that was somebody at the meetup said I met dirty jersey whore and it says dirty jersey or something on his back or jerseyer yeah and then says the guy is a monster is huge! He's a nice guy sweetheart Yeah and then they said he's super nice guy The bigger there are the bigger they are Very generous very sweet

3:17:40 Well, he gave us a nice tasting Glade water. And tasty! Sir Beeboop in New Brighton Minnesota Donald Rrrroth in Parkston South Dakota John Bellman in Chico RF Eider in Fairfax Virginia How about RF Idear? RFID-er. I think that's the guy who may have... Something with RFID things, I guess? Just a chance... Yeah, it sort of sounds like but he's I think he may be a guy who also dropped off something or put something in the envelope worth and that is of interest Laura Hearer in Williston Vermont Stephen Tucci in Littleton Colorado Sir Austin in Sammamish Washington

3:18:37 Bear in a Puget Sound actually. Dame Rita, there she is in Sparks Nevada Kimberly Bridges, Sarasota Florida These all say happy birthday by the way Sir Latte from Starbucks No he's in Bremerton Washington Sir Rick Alcindor, crazy Steve. There's our guy the second This is more of them there's more of them it might be sir John parts unknown Danny Haynes sir becoming heroic top-notch heating and What is it you haven't broke out? It's a plug for top notch heating on my heating and air And air conditioning in Mantee Utah

3:19:23 That's who you want to go to. Sir Johnny Bananas and Dame Sally Bananas in Fowler, Indiana. Sir Robertson in Dos Palos California. Ahmed Mian in Calgary Alberta and that well that ended it by the way. And by the way uh Ahmed Mian who is, he sent a hundred dollars in Canadian dollary dues and he actually sent me a note. What was the note that he sent? He needs a jobs karma and I will give that to him at the end here's what he said what'd he say here. He needs jobs karma yeah good for you yes okay so his hundred dollars became 67 31 there we go. Yeah and that's probably plus fees

3:20:09 Yeah, maybe. David Cox in Austin Texas $6325. Troy Funderburk in Missoula Montana $55 Michael Gates $5280 Roger Kesey in Holland Michigan $5272 these are all fifty dollar donors I'm going to read them off as fifties except for well you got Craig Bodak parts unknown Gordon Myers and Dripping Springs 5150, now these are officially $50 donors. Chris Conacher in Anchorage Alex Zavala in Kiley Texas Sir Alex yes sir Alex Mark Miller in Lenoxa I think is how it's pronounced Kansas Henry Klan in Aledo Texas

3:20:59 Cory Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee Walker Phillips over here in San Rafael California and last on the list good list Vance ID in Virginia I think boy advance it may have been the one who sent the extra gift Tell you about that later Okay. You want to thank these people is it exploding? It's exploding dildo Hey everybody, thank you so much for celebrating John's birthday with us. It is an annual tradition here on the show we do it twice a year one for me and one for John and we appreciate that noagendadonations.com Here is the jobs karma as requested Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! No agenda donations dot com You can also go there to start a recurring donation any amount or frequency its no agenda donations dot com

3:21:52 And besides celebrating John's birthday, we also celebrated Brittany Johnson's birthday as her husband Jordan Johnson wished his smoking hot wife Brittany a very happy one. She turned 40 on April 5th Akasha Gjelesha, hi I'm messing up says happy birthday to her son Adam he turned 18 on the 5th of April as well and we say happy birthday to these people from everybody here's the best podcast in the universe! We do that title change from earlier. Sir Lawrence of Dystopia upped his support to the show in the amount of $1,000 so he becomes Sir Lawrence of Dystopia Baronet of Maxwell

3:22:46 Park. That's on the spreadsheet, that's not what you approved but that's how it went down so now I guess its official. Congratulations Sir Lawrence, a now baronet and we thank you very much for your support of The Noah Jenner Show! We have three Commodores to welcome and we start by welcoming Commodore Indomitable Dame Melody Fugazotto, Commodore Sir Ronald Lafferty and Commodore Cheeky and Anonymous Commodores arriving Go to no agenda rings calm you brand-new Commodores and give us your address so that we can get your Commodore shipping your paperwork out to you as soon as possible and And of course, let us know what name you would like on it We thank you all very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Zane Peterson is a layaway night It works people you just lay away a little bit do one of those recurring donations he says hey guys I

3:23:38 I never thought i'd make it to knighthood so I never checked. The other day, I was scrolling through PayPal to find something and I was like holy cow! I think I'm close the knighthood. I tallied things up and I was over the mark So on to the cool stuff...I'd like my night name to be Zurzanamak of the squared circle And I'll have good old mutton and mead Thanks a million he says He wants a jobs karma from Nancy Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs You've got karma. So, why don't we see if you have two here. Why don't we bring these knights up on the table? I've got my blade here if you can... There ya go, I got one. Draw your sword very nice, nice sword drawing sir! Zane Peterson, you're ready to go! Marty van Wegenspergen, you are ready to go as well and We'll be thinking of you Marty You got this as they say Both of you have supported The Noah Jenner Show directly or through proxy in a thousand dollars or more I'm very proud to pronounce the K-B-S

3:24:38 Sir Zanamak of the Square Circle and Sir Marty from Weisberger of the Coachella Valley. For you gentlemen, we have hookers & blow, rentboys and chardonnay or Belgian frites de coton and a cold unsweetened Mountain Dew along with that Rubenesque, Rumen and Rose, Geissen and Sake, Bongets and Bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavlova or as always... The Mutton And The Mead! You also are welcome to go to noagenderrings.com in this case use the handy ring sizing guide To let us know exactly what size ring you want for your night ring It is a signet ring so we also give you wax to use when sealing your important correspondence And as always this also comes with a certificate of authenticity Welcome to both of you, to the No Agenda roundtable of our knights and dames! NO AGENDA MEETUPS!!!

3:25:29 We are in a time where people are trying to divide and trying to attack relationships. And this is a moment for you to keep relationships going, to build new ones, to restore old ones perhaps but connection is protection if you go to a No Agenda Meetup. You can find them at noagendameetups.com They're all producer organized they're fun! They're a lot of fun to go to. Everybody's willing to talk, you can have a drink, you can hang out... You can be weird! You can be as weird as you want to be no one cares because you know you're part of the No Agenda family We get it! Noagendameetups.com is where you can find the entire list and calendar Here's a Meetup report this was the crossword puzzle meet up I'm an actor from the TMI Evac Zone Meet Up And i'm training on the next generation of anti-AI warriors! That little thingy eye is stealing our future

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3:27:51 you wanna be where everybody feels the same Like a big party. I will continue to try real ISOs while you just use AI for what it's really good for surfing websites creating videos for Scaramanga and end of show isos that's really what that hundred billion dollar industry is about He I have two, I'm gonna start with the first one No, that's no good I thought this this one was good dude what's going on? Hmm does it

3:28:34 What's that gonna do at the end of the show? Nothing! Because I don't type in a prompt. Well, I got a real one in here. Please... Let's go with 10. Ten out of ten perfection. What's that got to do with the show?! Yeah. Very funny. Yeah. Let's go with the Arab shoots Yeah, no that's no good. That was the real one? That is not good. Okay well let us show you what this is dips Come on dip shits do another hour! No I don't like that You would bulk against saying that portrays us negatively We are NOT dip shit So thats a hard NO

3:29:28 I agree, i just threw it in to add a little spice. Yes okay and then we got no No! It can't be over already Let me see between that one and 10 out of 10 perfection I think that's the best 110 out-of-ten perfection still looking for yo, yo. Yo what up? Yo, yo Somebody gotta do that nobody can do it you can't do I know there's a trick There is a trick You can do it with and It's using the voice changer in other words you don't use the AI to create the voice use your own voice And say yo yo yo waddup and then you tweak it. Someone out there can just record it, you can do it You don't need AI for that but apparently no one wants to participate They don't want to do it Everybody is signed for everybody's favorite moment of the show This is John's tip of the day

3:30:33 There's a product tip. I get product tips once in awhile besides cleaning tips, I think everyone should get you buy these by the pair there's like two sets of them And everyone should have these because it's the only way to go. Otherwise you're dicking around, trying to find the right charging cable. It's a multi-charging five in one two pieces four foot cables that have USB C on one side and micro USB on the other side It just has all these different connections that they have three or four of them That you can plug into you find what because of all these USB things. They've created they've ruined it They got you get your see I got your micro You got your one that Google uses you got the one in the iPhone and what? They don't even use they only bother iPhone has screws over but so you should buy these things that you get two of them for ten bucks

3:31:31 And get them while they last because I'm sure they're coming out of China. So you're so against USB-C, but isn't this kind of exactly why USB-C is good as a standard? Why? Well because everybody...I mean all my devices now have USB-C Yeah that's the whole idea so they can spy on ya What do you need when you have your regular small USB connector which has four pins Count them, four pins and it can go at incredibly high speeds. Why do we suddenly need a 24 pin connector? For AI! What?! For AI man, for AI throughput, for lack of latency... And there's so many little bits in there that if you put the thing into such... It is bound to screw up they're bound to break

3:32:24 They're no good. USB-C is no good, but yes... You heard it here first everybody! USB-C is no good It'll never fly I never said that But I'm putting words in your mouth Hey tipoftheday.net NoahJettaFun.com Great advice for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnetti. Here's a tip. My tip is that if you stay tuned to the Noah Jett and Stream, TrollRoom.io and on your modern podcast app You will hear behind-the-schemes coming up in just moments from now as we cruise right into that because it's a live thing We got going on is just like radio only cheaper and a lot more fun

3:33:29 End of show mixes. Thank you, Tom Starkweather for a redux of Trump's tariffs—this was from 2019 but it still fits—and Professor Jay Jones comes in with some aha! Aha stuff coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg—picturesque Fredericksburg I might add In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's been picturesque and the weather is better, I am John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday with more of your No Agenda show we hope you will join us for that we certainly look forward to it I'm sure there'll be something to deconstruct remember us at noagendadonations.com until then adios mofos ahoowee hoowee and such