Episode 172 · Sunday, 7 February 2010

Palin Teapot Party

Sarah Palin signals a presidential run with a controversial keynote as global markets reel from the Greek debt crisis and Google enters a defensive pact with the NSA.

By The No Agenda Show | 1h 53m listen | 34 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 172

About this episode

Sarah Palin headlined the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, delivering a C-SPAN-broadcasted keynote that criticized the Obama administration's handling of Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. The speech sparked immediate media scrutiny after photographs revealed Palin utilized crib notes written on her left hand, including phrases like "tax cuts" and "lift American spirits." While Palin positioned herself as a movement leader, the event notably excluded Ron Paul, the original catalyst for the grassroots organization.

Global financial stability remains precarious as the Euro faces a deficit crisis involving Greece, Portugal, and Spain, prompting capital flight to Swiss banks. In the United States, Google announced a partnership with the National Security Agency to defend against Chinese cyber attacks, while the FBI pressured internet service providers to retain user browsing logs for two years. Meanwhile, the William J. Clinton Foundation failed several Better Business Bureau accountability standards, operating with only three board members—Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton—despite managing a $132 million annual budget. In Haiti, controversy erupted over high amputation rates performed by American surgeons, contrasting with the methods of Doctors Without Borders.

Technical frustrations with Google Voice and the removal of cursive writing from school curricula provide a backdrop to the week's cultural shifts. The program also highlights the "Value for Value" funding model, thanking New Zealand producer Chris Schouler for his office visit. A Toronto restaurant's provocative Valentine's Day promotion and the sudden FDA approval of Stevia amid a global sugar crisis round out the report.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Google Voice Usability, C-SPAN Coverage, Sarah Palin Tea Party Keynote

The hosts discuss technical frustrations with Google Voice's numbering system and voicemail notifications. They transition to political media, noting Sarah Palin's keynote speech at the Tea Party convention aired on C-SPAN.

google voice· c-span· sarah palin· tea party· text messaging

00:01 You know, these kinds of documents you keep digging up about this is kind of disturbing. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's February 7th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 172 This is no agenda! Watching CSPAN so you don't have to and coming to live from the minimum security containment cell crackpot command center in Gitmo nation West San Francisco California In The Morning I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's not a cloud in the sky, I am John C. Dvorak. It is crackpot and buzzkill! In the morning! And good morning to you my friend. Same to you. In the morning. Yes have you twittered? Have you tweet-crimer'd? No of course not. You spend all that time getting ready

00:49 And then, actually I need to do a couple things too. So I couldn't get... you know C-SPAN was boring this week No! C-SPAN was awesome last night I sent you a text message didn't you? You know what can i just say something. You've got on to this damn Google voice crap and so now, I have like 18 numbers that are all google voice numbers And it's like and you show up as John C Dvorak on my phone I'm like I'm texting you and you're not reading My texts or you don't get him or you know It's crazy then I get hi is john this is my google voicemail okay Who gives a crap if it's your Google voicemail? You're just giving me more useless information. You getting messages? Yes, you have a message! Huh... Yeah anyway so I sent you Sarah Palin was on C-SPAN last night with her keynote for the tea party yeah we got to talk about her and i and i sent you and i sent you a message saying that was busy working on upon the mailings thing

01:50 I watched enough stuff on C-SPAN and I saw the Frankenstuff and the other crap so... Well, I got the Frankenstuff but first of all why don't we uh did you send out to Twitter? No let me send it out to Twitter. Oh my god what are you doing?! I'm trying listening to you berate me! And you deserve it! I can't believe well I mean text messaging is supposed to be the ultimate Communication, you know? Guarantee delivery. I got your message! You got my message and you ignored it?! No, I didn't realize it was from you... It came in from some really weird number This is what Google Voice does They assign a crazy number to me so that you can't recognize who I am It's dumb Google Voice sucks balls Okay

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Belgian Warriors, New Zealand Producer Visit

The show acknowledges high-tier donors including Stephen Pelsmacher and Chris Schouler, who visited the office from New Zealand. The hosts discuss the "Nighthood Layaway Plan" and the professional benefits of being listed as an executive producer on a CV.

stephen pelsmacher· elon sheamus· chris schouler· wellington· new zealand

02:39 So, uh... Who is our executive producer for this fine program? We have a number of them for today. Oh that's nice! We have our executive producer, our old buddy who seems to be on his way to knighthood Stephen Pelsmacher Wait isn't he a knight already by now? No, he needs one more Stephen Pelsmacher's. It is $333 and 33 cents, who by the way does not... I love the magic number Steven, he does not live in the Netherlands by the way He is a Belgian? Yes he is. He says this part 2 of the Nighthood Layaway Plan on behalf of my colleague The Separator. Ah! Okay so we have to put The Separator and Perens again right? Yeah Please remember it's the Belgians, the bravest of Gallic warriors that carry the show

03:24 For this episode is absolutely true. Yeah long live the Belgians and Thank you, Steven. That's highly appreciated as always yes And he's a member of these he's on his way yeah He's on his way to he sees a Belgian they're all great. Yes We love him I was watching Poirot last night as a matter of fact What were you watching? Poirot the uh, murder mystery was I thought Poirot was French. No he's Belgian Oh right on John Kilburn Houston Texas $200 Thank You John and another a return visit from our pal Elon Sheamus sheamus comm poomer in Netherlands permanent

04:18 And then of course we have Chris Schouler who is actually visited us at the offices. Yeah, this was kind of cool. We had one of our producers from Get my nation down under a little bit to the left, New Zealand. On his way back from his ski trip in Colorado stopped by the office In fact he stopped by when neither of us were there and then I'm walking into the office And you know how weird it is when your walking down the street all of sudden someone comes up from behind and starts saying something to you? You mean like, hey jerk off move. No like that could only be one person I'm like oh crap here it is. I'm getting enough. And the guy's like six feet tall and he says you must be Adam. And then he hands you a summons. Exactly! You've been served. So yeah so he brought his donation personally which we also appreciate

05:22 And so he is also listed as an executive producer today. What's his last name again? Schouler, S-C-O-U-L-E-R Schooler right and I think we also said hey, dude. You know you really need to get us some Information from New Zealand. I mean it can yeah We did he gave us $206 and so he's a associate executive producer for this week and My son big mentions as he was sitting down the streets is what hey was that guy? You were talking to from Wellington I said, what do you have? And I looked at his card. He is from Wellington apparently there's a specific Wellington accent that my son can identify because he has a friend from Wellington really That was weird well thank you very much John Kilburn Ian Seamus

06:10 And Chris Schuller and of course our, as executive associate executive producers and our executive producer for episode number 172 of No Agenda. Stephen Pelschmacherz on behalf of The Separator you know that you need to put this on your CV it'll look really good it looks professional and it is absolutely true that you are making this episode possible through your financing which gets you the executive producer credit and it does get you jobs Jobs and jobs and more jobs, but it's proven. It's actually proven people who have donated to this program Have gotten jobs because of it they haven't gotten laid though I don't think We that's on a list of premium as well will be promising soon And we're working on it. I do want to give you some props John okay May I I knew that would get your attention You called it

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

Sarah Palin Alaska Governor Emails, MSNBC FOIA Request, Media Strategy

MSNBC obtained 3,000 pages of Sarah Palin's emails from her tenure as Governor of Alaska via a Freedom of Information Act request. The discussion covers the fluctuating costs of the records request and allegations of petty corruption regarding electrical work for a tanning bed.

sarah palin· msnbc· alaska· freedom of information act· keith olbermann

07:13 I'm going to say four weeks ago you called it and you said, it looks like they're trying to make Sarah Palin the leader of the Tea Party. And that this was being orchestrated mainly through Fox News and in particular through Glenn Beck Yeah, I think Beck is looking for some action. No but seriously you called it you know I call it It was it was writing it was on the wall so But here's an interesting thing about and then this we're gonna talk about this I might as well mention And you probably some clips of Sarah's yes, I do but there's a big scandal going on because MSNBC had

07:56 requested through Freedom of Information Act all her emails when she was a governor of Alaska during the period that she was running in. And the state, let me get this story up... It's actually Metaphil, who has got a good rundown on this. Apparently what they've gotten is 3,000 pages of emails and let me just read one little section here that somebody mentioned So this is recent, these emails that they published. Yeah this just came- This just basically showed up MSNBC just got these let me read a quote here When msnbc.com and other news organizations and citizens of Alaska sought Palin email records after she was named Republican Vice President running mate in August

08:38 the state initially quoted a cost as high as fifteen million dollars for state technicians to find emails first aid in terms of print out the emails one at a time well that's what it did that sort of about what it costs to put up a website for the government so not surprising in their uh... you know and for state lawyers to read them into termination withheld uh... that still a little boys approaches status taking which is this is a cost of more than five hundred thousand instead staffed and but the price Prices it is charging have come down considerably. You know, there was 15 million before now the state charged MSNBC $323 and 58 cents. That sounds about right actually I mean it is a lot of work those Freedom of Information Act requests

09:22 Yeah, but with email you know you should be able to get this stuffed up. No no but it has to be read each one out well that's the that's usually how its requested I have been through some of this and every single email has to be read they have to redacted That's why it's printed out and then they then they eventually think scan them back into PDF there's a procedure I mean It's not okay what is very little about what the story's about? I'm just I thought it was more than don't digress So I always digress, where's the show? Okay it's time to wrap it up.

10:08 No, you're kidding me. There's all kinds of weird stuff coming up there and then when it and then there's all these little petty corruption for example one of the analysis said that governor coached her staff on how to disguise the amount of electrical work needed at a mansion to hookup or new tanning bed The manager of Palin's travel schedule search for a public event to use as justification I just need one quote-unquote to charge the state for an airplane flight for Palin's daughter Willow who made the trip but had missed the event given as its Justification she actually wrote about that in her book

10:46 The shadow, apparently Todd was picking the judicial appointments doing contract negotiations. I read the book and a lot of what you're telling me whether it's true or not seems pretty uninteresting in general she has addressed most of those things in her book She addressed electrical work needed for tanning bed? Yeah well not tanning beds specifically but electrical work yeah she's addressed most of that And she coached the staff on how to disguise the amount needed? Is the word disguised in the actual email, I don't think so. Well maybe not whatever the case is... It's a hit piece by MSNBC The point i'm trying to make it's not the facts of the matter anything else here's what here's what i'm trying to get to but if you wouldn't continually interrupt my train of thought A, MSNBC is going to take this stuff and they're going to give it to Olbermann and that idiot uh what's her name

11:46 and they're going to blow out all this stuff, and basically try to derail Palin's potential as being a presidential candidate. If these people were Republicans they would bury this stuff get her in as the candidate and then bring it out and ruin the chances of her being elected. This is what they did with Muskie, and this is what they tend to do. The Democrats are so kind-of like...in your face that they don't even get how this mechanism works and their playing this completely wrong. That's my only point. Well, ummm..they've wasted about 400 grand because circulating the net today

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

Sarah Palin Hand Notes, Tea Party Convention, Media Ridicule

Photographs from the Tea Party convention revealed Sarah Palin had "energy," "tax cuts," and "lift American spirits" written on her left hand. The hosts predict the media will use these crib notes to ridicule her intelligence, comparing her to a sixth grader.

sarah palin· tea party· crib notes· energy· tax cuts

12:31 is a picture of Sarah Palin from the from her keynote at the Tea Party convention and you've probably seen it by now, the chat room is all over it. She had crib notes written on her left hand which were three points. It was energy tax cuts and lift American spirits And of course this is the only thing the American public will hear about and I'm not pro Palin as a presidential candidate and I do believe that tea party's being hijacked but There is a difference between what she actually said, what happened there in Tennessee and this is the I guarantee you the only thing you're going to hear about the crib notes on our left hand. That's the only thing!

13:15 So they don't even need these emails, they will ridicule her down to... Oh she's like a sixth grader needs crib notes. You watch this happen without it will be the complete... The distraction of the week on the Woolworths Agenda Now you saw that right? You saw the crib notes Yeah but unfortunately what did it say I wonder That's what I just told you I just told you what it says. I mean, have we actually seen a photo of it? Yes! There's video and photos... No, I saw that same video you saw and its very unclear. Wait no there is another picture taken while she was at the lectern You want me to send it right now so you can see or do you believe me? Yeah, you wanna see it? Hold on a second There's a photo of her taking at the lectern where it actually... hold on just gotta save this Because I'm convinced it should buy bread

14:15 No, it didn't say buy bread. Damn! Alright here it is coming at you now It says Energy tax cut and there's actually one word crossed off and it says lift American spirits which could be smoke American spirits I don't know We got that? I just want to make sure you hear. We really shouldn't do this, it's really bad for the connection Yeah it is but doesn't seem to be affecting at the moment Well not on your end my friend no Okay you got it? Now take a look and you'll see that's pretty damn good picture they got it close up And I guarantee that as the only thing will be discussed about her entire speech What does it say energy? Yeah it says energy tax cuts

15:10 and lift American spirit. What is it that's X'd out? Who cares, you sound like one of these news shows! What is X'd out?! Woah we've analyzed it! Rrrr! Well for one thing I'm dubious if this actually what it is but... Yeah it is, now John This is like the CIS Enhance it! Enhance, zoom in on that Okay can you clarify? Uh what kind of pen was it written with So anyway, the whole point of course is it's laughable because the President of The United States uses a teleprompter and in the very spirit of no agenda this is what you pay for my friends. So I spent my time last night watching this and I would like to review with you John and play a couple of clips so

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

Tea Party Movement Hijacking, Andrew Breitbart, Sarah Palin Leadership

The hosts analyze the potential hijacking of the grassroots Tea Party movement by established political figures and media personalities like Andrew Breitbart. Sarah Palin's speech addressed the movement's lack of a central leader while she simultaneously positioned herself as a prominent spokesperson.

tea party· andrew breitbart· sarah palin· grassroots· leadership

16:04 First of all, this is of course a hijack of the Tea Party movement. By the way Sarah Palin was introduced by Andrew Breitbart of BigGovernment.com and Oh really? Yeah so you know there's people with egos all over the place which is kind of like alright when I saw that I was like hmm not liking this Because the whole point of the Tea Party is it's a grassroots national movement where people on a local level are kicking incumbents out of office, which is I think great. And there should not be a leader which Sarah Palin does discuss but at the end there's a clip that kind of shows you what things are to come. Remember this room was filled with Republicans, Independents disgruntled Democrats

16:52 in this convention center in Tennessee and I have to say it was like she had read the show notes to know what agenda. Every single topic she went boom, boom, boom, boom! She hit every single one This speech was for the Tea Party movement for people who are pissed off about what's happening was a brilliant speech Without a teleprompter I will say and i got a couple of clips starting off with the major slam that was an it's an open door as we call It but, well done and made A lot of sense for her to start the speech off this one. I am so proud to be American thank you! Cash Thank You

17:34 Happy birthday Ronald Reagan! Oh by the way, there was a lot of happy birthday Ronald Reagan throughout the- I watched some of the convention earlier because it was Ronald Reagan. It would have been Ronald Reagan's 99th birthday so there is a lot of Ronald Reagan was great stuff all over the evening Well a special hello to the C-SPAN viewers. You may not be welcome in those healthcare negotiations, but you have an invitation to the tea party! So that's good right? Yeah it's okay I thought it was good with the line... well I didn't like the fact why I don't and I have mixed feelings about

18:20 Anyway, go just play it. I want to listen what okay? I'd wouldn't mind hearing your feedback on the line that can they can put it in words But there's something about her Being the spokesperson for the tea party and welcoming welcoming C-SPAN when she's not really a spokesman She's just a public speaker well here she addresses that very topic And your voice is too important, so work hard for these candidates. But put your faith in ideas and in that spirit I caution against allowing this movement to be defined by any one leader or politician The Tea Party Movement is not a top-down operation It's a ground up call to action that is forcing both parties to change the way they're doing business and that's beautiful

19:08 So, I think this is the clip we need to save because here she's saying it should not be one politician. There should be no leader and she cautions everybody for that So she addressed that pretty early on. Then of course, as I said, I don't care which way you look at it, she is a reason besides the voice which is just really starts to gnaw at you. It's a grating voice and its like this squeaky squawky thing...I mean when I first saw her bio and all that I had predicted she would be a candidate and wasn't surprised when they picked her. And then when I realized that she sounds just dreadful, it just makes you want to put earmuffs on or start screaming. Yeah, Mickey said the same thing yeah It's a little grating...I agree But anyway, ummm Just moving through Here she slams the president Listen to the crowd by the way They were loving her Standing ovation after standing ovation This is about the people

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

National Security Rhetoric, Christmas Day Bomber, Waterboarding Debate

Sarah Palin's convention speech criticized the Obama administration's approach to national security and the handling of the Christmas Day "crotch bomber," Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. The discussion highlights her use of terms like "homicide bomber" and her implied support for enhanced interrogation techniques.

national security· abdulmutallab· yemen· waterboarding· homeland security

20:20 This is about the people and it's bigger than any king or queen of a tea party. And it's a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter." I have to say, it was like one after another. It was like zing! Zing! Zing! Then the meat of her... The meat of the keynote which I really didn't like because she's all over you know, she has a kid in Iraq and so I can understand that where she's coming from to some degree but she really is stepping up on the security of the country. I don't think she says homeland at least i hope not So she really lays into this little bit longer clip but she really lays into the double speak in Washington

21:12 and then go straight into the crotch bomber. And I think this was really the main crux of her platform, which unfortunately may become the platform for the Tea Party if she actually becomes some kind of candidate for them. Now in recent weeks many of us have grown even more uneasy about our administration's approach to national security The most important role ascribed to our federal government let me say too it is not politicizing our security to discuss our concerns because Americans deserve to know the truth about the threats that we face and what the administration is or isn't doing about them. So let's talk about them! New terms used like overseas contingency operation instead of war, that reflects a worldview out-of-touch with an enemy that we face

22:06 We can't spin our way out of this threat. It's one thing to call a pay raise, a job created or saved it's quite another to call the devastation that a homicide bomber can inflict a man-made disaster and I just say come on Washington if nowhere else national security that's one place where you gotta call it like it is Right! In that spirit in that spirit we should acknowledge that on Christmas Day the system did not work. Abdulmutallab passed through airport security with a bomb and he boarded a flight hellbent on killing innocent passengers this terrorist trained in Yemen with Al Qaeda

22:57 His American visa was not revoked until after he tried to kill hundreds of passengers. On Christmas Day, the only thing that stopped this terrorist—blind luck and brave passengers—really it was a Christmas miracle and that is not the way the system is supposed to work! And see, she's all over this and I'm not liking how she's basically saying we should have waterboarded the guy as she moves on. Saying that we only interrogated him for 50 minutes so she's kind of on the waterboarding tip which i'm not too hot on. I don't know...

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Political Legacy Comparisons, Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy Quote

The hosts question a quote attributed to John F. Kennedy regarding his predecessor's faults and discuss the historical popularity of Dwight D. Eisenhower. They note the heavy emphasis on Ronald Reagan's legacy during the Tea Party convention, which coincided with his 99th birthday.

ronald reagan· john f. kennedy· dwight d. eisenhower· korean war· vietnam

23:39 I don't know, I'm surprised that she's even still in the picture and people are standing and clapping for her. Well, I think you're misunderstanding what is happening even though you called it... This is a group of people who are very angry And the most dangerous thing has happened as they've brought in a robotic shill to rile them up! She looks reasonably pleasing They have to work on their voice, I think they could detune it a little bit They put one of those auto tuners in her voice box to just bring it down a half an octave would be fine. But she's all my point is every single thing she did was just hit after hit after hit of all the things that the people who are angry about and listen to Rush Limbaugh or Hannity

24:29 What's his name? Beck. Riley and Beck, yeah so here is another one what another huge she just hitting back at everything like oh everything is being blamed on the previous administration so she has to hit that as well The lesson of the last year was this foreign policy can't be managed through politics of personality And our president would do well to take note of an observation John F. Kennedy had made once he was in office, that all the world's problems aren't his predecessors' faults I don't know if Kennedy actually said that Can you recall anything like that? I never heard that. No, I never heard it now of course she lays into the... Kennedy for one thing followed an extremely popular president Dwight D Eisenhower who wasn't really blamed for anything because in fact during that era and probably until about the mid 1970s at least amongst

25:24 democrats and i prime me apart possibly mustard republicans uh... eisenhower's was considered called a considered do nothing president never really created any problems he was just basically a maintenance guy Did Kennedy inherit some kind of huge problem except for the pigs? I mean a Korean war. No, the only problem that was inherited... The Korean War was over I believe but the thing that was kind of inherited was a police action that the French were involved in Vietnam and it was a minor nothing at the time and Kennedy came in and screwed it up. Then it was further screwed up by Lyndon Johnson So we should investigate if he actually ever used that quote because I'd never heard of it

26:04 I think it's made up. But maybe somebody, we have a million listeners so let's see who... Someone source it for us yeah So of course along with the populist her popular speech she obviously has to lay into hope and change and the transparency in how Washington was going to change And she hits that one right on the mark again Remember this is this was easy to do You and I could have done this We probably couldn't have done it in high heels but we definitely could've done the speech Plus, remember our administration promised that it would be good stewards of taxpayer dollars. Remember? Remember Vice President Biden! He was put in charge of a tough unprecedented oversight effort That's how he was introduced You know why? Because nobody messes with Joe Now

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Sarah Palin Presidential Ambitions, Ron Paul Exclusion, Tea Party Tipping Point

Sarah Palin's refusal to rule out a presidential run and her offer to donate speaking fees back to "The Cause" are analyzed as strategic political moves. The hosts observe that Ron Paul, the original catalyst for the Tea Party, was notably absent and unmentioned during the event.

sarah palin· ron paul· fox news· tea party· presidential candidate

27:02 This was all part of that hope and change and transparency, and now a year later I gotta ask those supporters of all that. How's that hopey-changey stuff working out for ya? I thought that was pretty funny! Anyway, so then she bitches about the transparency. She nails the 40 lobbyists currently in the administration I'm not gonna play those clips for you But then finally The one that we really are waiting for is no So is she going to be the leader of the tea party remember? She's just said that this should not take place there shouldn't be no leader and She's been interviewed after this she gets like three or four questions

27:47 after her speech and And of course she's asked if they'll be president Palin and the question was kind of asked two times so just the second answer as she's about to go and That will kind of sum it all up where this is headed. So Thank you so much for coming down here We really appreciate it You may have to fight your way out of here from all these people who don't want you to leave Well, I appreciate the opportunity to be here. I have to apologize if i had anything to do with any of the controversy that some of the media spun up... What controversy? Alright..I am happy honored proud to take any speaking fee that was ever going to be written out for me via check and turn it right back around and give it to The Cause

28:36 this isn't about money it's not about uh... a title is not about a leader position here in this movement it is about the people I will live, I will die for the people of america whatever I can do to help and this party that we call the Tea Party This movement as I say Is the future of politics In America And I am proud to get to be here today So she setting herself up Yeah, I think it was some you know. It's like the brown shirts at some level without the violence but that can change and She thinks she can Be the boss. I don't know I find that you know I do be honest about it at this point I just find her so incredibly annoying That I'm having a hard time even with this segment

29:26 Even though I didn't predict that this was going to happen. And the problem is what's really ultra annoying, even in this part is that we're still going to continue dealing with this woman. Well first of all it is our service and you know we need at least listen to all this stuff to know what is going on as wanting beings and whats being said And I think that the way I analyze it is very simple. There's two things going on first, so it was beautiful to see a room full of Americans who were actually pissed off and want to do something about it and have started to organize On the other hand, this is the tipping point. This is the moment where it's about to go all wrong You've got all these weird people in there including Sarah Palin and they're taking over the movement They are completely hijacking the movement which will be... It was set up months in advance John I think it goes back to her quitting the governorship They already knew what they were going to do

30:24 and the media is on board, Fox is on board because she's got her platform they've got everything all set up they're ready to go and it's a very dangerous tipping point in the entire Tea Party movement. And I might point out that the very first tea party as far as I can remember Was Ron Paul and he is not mentioned once in this entire symposium, which I watched hours of it Yes, so really not once and by the way. He wasn't invited he wasn't there So I just can't take it seriously if it's not it can't be the real deal No, if Ron Paul... you're right. And Ron Paul is the giveaway he is the harbinger there You have Breitbart but you don't have Ron Paul, you have Sarah Palin but you don't have Ron Paul and then nobody mentions Ron Paul But they keep making accolades to Reagan in some sort of hoping they get a knee-jerk reaction Oh my! Reagan, Reagan, Reagan It was the whole time continued I'm sure it wasn't chosen on Reagan's 99th birthday by accident Or as we say

31:26 Coincidence? I think not! Alright, enough Palin. Hey it's a service! Now you can at least slam her and the Tea Party hijacking intelligently at your Super Bowl party alright? You can say, I know what is going on, I saw it It's a service Alright so uh... On Real News And now back to real news

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Toronto Restaurant Bathroom Sex Promotion, Valentine's Day Commercialism

Mildred's Temple Kitchen in Toronto launched a Valentine's Day promotion inviting customers to have sex in its bathrooms. The hosts contrast this Canadian marketing stunt with the stricter legal environment in the United States regarding public indecency and sex offender registries.

toronto· mildred's temple kitchen· valentine's day· sex offender list· drive-in theaters

32:20 Yeah, this is on the blog I should mention it just in case anyone wants to know cuz Valentine's Day is coming up here in Toronto Toronto I'm a refer the article Toronto's Mildred Temple kitchen is inviting customers to have sex in its bathrooms This is why restaurant what you say yeah valentine's weekend promotion takes uncomfortable but electrifying sex from the close confines of an airplane and transfers to unisex stalls of the Hana Avenue Restaurant The Liberty Village Restaurant proposes its modern bathrooms become one of the 101 places to have sex before you die.

33:01 What are the other 100? Sorry, in Liberty Village I didn't realize who it was. Mildred's has always elicited a certain response when one customer named remembers going to a wedding at the Eater's O location and seeing a copy of the Kama Sutra in the bathroom. They invited says the customer this time the invitation is explicit on their website Mildred's asks have you given any thought to moving beyond the bedroom Check out Mildred's sexy bathrooms throughout the weekend of big love. You get the picture." What is the point?

33:40 This is just more commercialism around a stupid date. It's dumb! I know, I hate it too but i have to say this at least a little creative and in Canada you know Billy in the United States you couldn't do this because you'd be put on the sex offenders list Oh yeah no you can't do that No we can't have any fun anymore Remember when stuff used to be fun? John yeah, I remember that back in the day. I'm even old enough to remember when stuff used to be fun Used to read fun stuff and think ha that's fun Yeah nowadays you know that when when I was a kid You know they used to make out in the at the drive-in theaters That's right take your hug and kiss him in the backseat

34:23 Well, they were doing more in kissing than a lot of these cars because the funny thing is about the drive-in theater. Is that the? car windows would Fog up to an extreme which is the nature of of the, you know being in a cold night car. You're breathing a lot and completely fogged up and if you wanted to have sex in the back seat it wasn't like very difficult to do nowadays you would be busted and put on the sex offenders list. And given an ankle bracelet so we can track you? That's true that's true anyway I just thought was good real news story yeah love

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Euro Currency Crisis, Greek Deficit, Capital Flight to Switzerland

The Euro faces significant pressure as Greece, Portugal, and Spain struggle with deficits exceeding the 3% European Union limit. Investors are reportedly withdrawing billions of dollars from Greek banks and moving assets to Switzerland as the Greek government prepares tax crackdowns.

euro· greece· portugal· spain· switzerland

35:10 You want some real, real news? I mean the euro is collapsing. Is that of any interest to you? It's not as collapsing as i'd like it too. No. It's down to a buck thirty-six I think This is pretty interesting though what happened because we have the Club Med as its being known Greece Portugal Spain who essentially they're all on board the euro and so they don't have their own currency and they have huge deficits like 10-12% and it's not supposed to be more than three I think is the general agreement. And there are all kinds of corruption, and all this crap is coming out, the farmers are burning all their shit... Of course these countries don't have their own currency to inflate or mess with

35:56 to combat what's happening and so now you know the question is will the European Union i.e., the other states in Gitmo Nation East, will they bail out these countries or will they have to leave the union? Or what happens? You know it's and no one really knows and there's all kind everyone's freaking out in the financial sector And it seems like no good can come of it. Investors withdraw up to 10 billion dollars from Greece as government prepares tax crackdown to cut down the deficit, which is about the only thing they can do is raise taxes. So all of the money is now flowing out of Greece into Switzerland and other places. Traditionally, the Greeks already put their money in Switzerland but you know they've got like what are they like? They're into shipping and stuff so now they're taking all their private money out there'll be no money left in Greece

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Greek Tourism Anecdotes, Wine List Scams, Olympic Air Smoking

A personal anecdote describes a deceptive "award-winning" wine list at an Athens restaurant where rare bottles were listed but unavailable for purchase. The story also compares the poor service and smoking on Olympic Air flights to the modern fleet of Turkish Airways.

athens· istanbul· wine spectator· olympic air· turkish airways

36:56 Yeah, seriously none. No money any taxes or guys go sky-high no one's gonna want to go Vacation there it's horrible Now, you know Greece has always been kind of a dingy place. I mean it has! The islands are... some of the islands are really nice. That Acropolis thing is dusty man. It's no good. I'm talking about Athens, a regular city where people live which just is grimy and there's also something about Gre- this was awhile back but I did go to Greece and contrasted it with Istanbul, the Athens and Istanbul back to back and I have like couple anecdotes

37:35 First of all, so I was with a group and so I figured out what the absolute best restaurant in town was in Athens. And I wish it had the name in front because they need to be called out but people know this story. They had one of the top awards for The Wine Spectator for their spectacular wine list of tens of thousands of unbelievably rare and great wine. So I started going there and I did my research. So I started ordering some of these wines And it kept coming back like this, we only have one bottle of that left so you can't have it. Why can't you have the last bottle? Well I think it went on and on and then they said no he only had one bottle that left just went on and on with wine after wine and finally the guy says well there's a couple bottles okay we'll get one So we brought it back and they said well we only have one left so you can't have the other one It was just to keep the wines on the list

38:33 Wow, okay. So it was a total scam so they had this huge wine list with all these famous wines on it but you can't buy them because there were the only ones left which is bullshit! Anyway, so that was very annoying. And uh... Well you know that just proves it the country deserves to go to shit because they screw with their wine lists! I agree That's true the French would never do that So anyway, uh, so meanwhile i'm contrasting Olympic air with anyone who has flown these carriers Oh yeah, I've flown Olympic Air. I mean I surprised they don't start the engine with a shotgun. You know? Heraklion Airport Yeah one of those big

39:11 cartridges so we get on this plane which is a piece of crap and it's just that I'm in business class and it's like everyone can smoke but it's like so the last airline level everyone smoking all over the place. And what's funny is that their thing is in the runway, and before the wheels are up I'm smelling smoke! And I'm looking around... It's The Stewardess! And it wasn't from her mouth! So anyway, so she's like can't wait to lie down. So meanwhile I took my next leg of this flight I took a Turkish Airways. Turkish airways is using nothing but new equipment was gorgeous care. Was this one of these sex vacations you usually booked John or was there something else? No this is just fine that lousy wine-less vacation

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

Central Banker Meeting, Australia, Strong Dollar Policy

Global central bankers, including Tim Geithner and Ben Bernanke, are meeting in Australia with the Bank of International Settlements to discuss the Euro crisis. The hosts debate the merits of a strong dollar policy versus the government's preference for a weak dollar to boost exports like Boeing jets.

bank of international settlements· tim geithner· ben bernanke· australia· exports

40:01 I'm buying rugs. Anyway, the central bankers of the world are desperately trying to figure out what to do and there's a meeting today and tomorrow in Australia of all places so we really need our No Agenda militia down under to go and check it out they are meeting with of course the Bank of International Settlements which of course is the true central bank of all the central banks and you're not hearing a lot about this by the way. I would say it's kind of secret but they're really freaking out and Geithner is going to be there, little Timmy and Bernanke and everyone's gonna be down there in Australia Why do we have to go to Australia? Because people are throwing rocks at them! That will be one of two reasons secrecy and no rock policy

40:52 Yeah, the Australians don't. As far as their concern is just tourist dollars Well I think the whole thing could... What happens if Greece goes down? It's not just Greece it's Portugal and Spain If it goes down well the Euro I think could conceivably go to like 90 cents against a dollar That's what its supposed to be Exactly So interesting though Let's hope that happens You know, the thing is that our government seems to think a weak dollar's great because it's going to help encourage exports. What do we export? Boeing jets! Okay well those are big ticket items and maybe Caterpillar. And trains. Most of this stuff... We're not big export country. I mean take a look at the balance of the budget if we get a strong dollar which is what we should have its going to encourage investment because people jump into stock markets and the dollars gonna be worth more money just so you don't even have

41:43 doesn't have to even make profit anymore. She's gonna be naturally profitable, full and so that is where the direction we should go. We should go up to the strong dollar policy but these guys don't... These idiots in Washington I'm not absolutely sure they get that at all. I don't think they get anything Well on the topic let's see Where is my? I have some clips Okay These are the clips you don't remember. It's unbelievable! Here is the joke of it, so I'm going to actually go look at the list of clips and... See? I don't want to mention names because it kind gives away what it is but I've got them in front of me. Yeah yeah let me just look at them there's one that's ... oh brother Just give me your next topic and let me dig this up That's like you don't care about what I say Well thats because I am preoccupied with these clips and what are they

CHAPTER 13 / 34 Discussion

Google and NSA Partnership, Cyber Attack Defense, Privacy Concerns

Google announced a partnership with the National Security Agency (NSA) to investigate and defend against cyber attacks, specifically those originating from China. The hosts express skepticism regarding the impact on user privacy and the "Do No Evil" corporate motto.

google· nsa· cyber attacks· china· nexus one

42:40 Okay, it's just I'm off. It's my bio rhythms. I was looking at him on my he was looking at My Nexus one phone is a little bio rhythms program. Okay? This is like a triple down Bio rhythms Program on your nexus 1 well okay, I'll hook into that and love the fact that that Google has announced a quote partnership with the NSA, the National Security Agency. The biggest spooks on the face of the planet as a partnership to work together to ward off these cyber attacks you know I'm sorry but this has been glossed over so easily by everybody A partnership

43:27 I, you know how can you Google it has been compromised. Compromised! The critical question is at what level will the American public be comfortable with Google sharing information with the NSA? Said Ellen McCarthy, president of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance an organization of current and former intelligence and national security officials that seeks ways to foster greater sharing of information between government industry. IE a spook retirement home. Is this the only person you could find Washington Post You're compromised as well. They're all compromised! It's crazy, the NSA in partnership with Google We already suspected they were part of the CIA or that they had the CIA in there But now I mean... The NSA? This is unbelievable Unbelievable Do no evil How about just skip the do know and just be The mark of the beast Google is evil

44:30 And that phone, dude throw that in the toilet now! I keep it turned off. I'm not worried There's a little man in there He needs to be fed Keep your batteries fired up dude I have nothing to say about this Google NSA. Now, I mean it's a foregone conclusion at least they're honest about it They should put the NSA logo at the bottom of the Google search engine No, no not at the bottom at the top. They should just in the hose. Yes In partnership with NSA for your safety against the Chinese It's nuts

CHAPTER 14 / 34 Discussion

FBI Internet Log Retention, Child Pornography Cover, Cursive Writing

The FBI is pressuring internet service providers to retain user browsing logs for two years, citing the investigation of child pornography as the primary justification. A tangent follows regarding the removal of cursive writing from school curricula in favor of digital-friendly block lettering.

fbi· internet service providers· data retention· child pornography· cursive

45:13 I just can't believe it. No, no we're not Sergei and what are we supposed to say about? I mean, can I were you might want to write a column and say oh these bad people at Google they've got the NSA in their bedrooms or review know whatever It would be a good start And now and now the What was this FBI wants records of websites visited kept for two years FBI pressing internet service providers to record which websites customers visit and retain those logs for two years, a requirement here it comes that law enforcement police could help its investigations of child pornography and other serious crimes. Is that the only thing we worry about? Apparently! That and flat breasts. Well that's Australia. They got their own Internet problems but I mean seriously

46:13 Are these people for real? Child porn is now being used as the essentially the cover For fishing expeditions of all sorts. It's a cover while we gotta do it for this reason Oh, okay. Well gee we can't And meanwhile they're looking for anything political affiliations stock market tips I mean the only reason people want to violate your privacy is so that can blackmail you There you go. Well, it's no big deal anyone could be blackmailed Maybe we need to maybe we don't forget about it You know what if it's something that you they don't want to be known just don't put it online Write it down on some paper and eat it Eat the paper keep your notes as the safest we need to go back That's why they won't teach kids to write script Cursive anymore that I want people right and they want it all digital

47:11 Yes, sure. You might be right that may be true I heard this is no longer in the curriculum That cursive writing is no longer required and it's all supposed to be block letters? I could be wrong but I think I read this somewhere that that's a new curriculum driven by the government Make sure you're writing black letters IN THE BLOCKS Yeah inside the lines! You know what ya have to do slave! Because they don't want people to write We also used to learn Greek and Latin Now you had mandatory Greek and Latin, didn't you? In school. No we had mandatory foreign languages but the Latin requirement had been disappeared by the time I got to high school Because it isn't...I mean look at all E pluribus unum Isn't that like Latin should be learning that language if its on our money

CHAPTER 15 / 34 Discussion

Portland State University FBI Informant Incident, Professor Fired

A professor at Portland State University was fired after publicly identifying a 30-year-old student, Zach Bucharest, as an FBI informant during a class. The professor, who had experience with government informants in East Germany, accused the student of being a "honeypot" inciting illegal activity.

portland state university· fbi· zach bucharest· professor hall· east germany

47:57 Yeah, I mean why should I think we should learn Latin anyway? It makes you much more it's easier to pick up other languages and it gives you the sense of where these words came from and what they really mean. And yeah but that's all been removed all of the ancient mysteries of the world were all in Latin and Greek and that's why they don't want you learning it because they don't want you to know all the ancient The ancient techniques. They don't want you to know anything. No, that's correct! So apparently... I'm looking at this story by the way that this is what i was looking for This professor at Portland State gets up and he points out some 30 year old student in the... Oh yes now I've read this story Yes amazing In a classroom it says this man is an agent for the FBI I want him out of here And made a big stink and the kid, kid who's thirty Apparently

48:46 going around giving classes on how to make Molotov cocktails and how to buy assault weapons and all this other stuff which doesn't sound like he's a agent of the FBI. But what it obviously was, he was a honeypot of some sort you know for the FBI phony trying to see who'd be interested in making a Molotov cocktail And I guess this professor who was raised in Eastern Europe found that knew how to spot guys like this because he was noticing them in Bulgaria when he was a student himself, I guess or something like that. The background is sketchy but he's been a professor at Portland State for 25 years or so spotted this phony which he believes would be a phony alleged phony and called him out of course the professor got fired and the kids you know hasn't

49:29 nobody's not talking anything I thought that was a peculiar story so there's a thought now that all the schools are loaded with these phony you know these older kids who are really FBI yeah well 30 is not a kid by the way his name was Mr. Bucharest, I mean please I know his name is Bucharest and here's uh... the FBI in Portland Confirmed last month and again Thursday, the suggestion that Mr. Bucharest is in any way has tried to incite violence or illegal activity is false." The suggestion that Mr. Bucharest in any way has, how do they know that by the way? In anyway has threatened any PSU student is false! Mr. Bucharest is disheartened that Professor Hall's union representative is making inflammatory public statements rather than letting the PSU investigation run its course Why doesn't the FBI just say he's not a fucking Fed but they're not saying that They're saying he didn't incite violence you know He was a peaceful FBI agent

50:29 I wish I had audio or video. This guy apparently really exploded and just freaked out on him Yeah, we need to record people out there you need to record everything yeah please it's a material but I oh here it is Here's the details. About 30 minutes left in the class, Hall made a dramatic announcement an FBI informant was enrolled in the class he talked about his experience with government informants and East Germany then identified this student as Zach Bucharest Hal put a letter detailing accusations on the overhead projector so they're still using overhead projectors there interesting to note So the class could read it

51:12 Hall then handed Bucharest a packet to give to his superiors. Cool! Here's all the info you want, douchebag!" Then he proceeded to say a lot of unpleasant things about Bucharest For instance, Hall called Bucharest a killer and said that he had the spirit of Cain and the spirit of Judas. Hall snapped a digital photo of Bucharest and said that if he ever saw him on campus again He would plaster his photos all over campus and tell everyone who he was I mean, you know this guy didn't just freak out like that. I'm sure he's right! Yeah, I'm sure he is. He probably knew the earmarks and then he did a little research i'm sure You know before it blew up and then that blew up But you know, yeah So first of all, I totally believe that there are shills in campuses. I also think they're uh in all houses of worship and churches Synagogues everywhere. I mean yes, of course they are That's what they do And now they're probably in a lot of corporations. Yeah Uh-oh

CHAPTER 16 / 34 Discussion

Guard Labor Statistics, Corporate Spying, Media Indoctrination

A research paper claims that one in four Americans is employed in "guard labor," a category including security, law enforcement, and corporate IT monitors. The hosts discuss how this labor force maintains social discipline and how intelligence agencies like the CIA and FBI work to indoctrinate the media.

guard labor· samuel bolger· cointelpro· cia· fbi

52:14 In fact, there was an interesting article which is also on the blog. This guy Samuel Bolger is talking about what he calls guard labor In the 2007 paper on the subject, he and co-author Arun Yadav, an assistant professor at University of Massachusetts make an astonishing claim. Roughly one in four Americans is employed to keep fellow citizens in line and protect private wealth from would be Robin Hoods Job descriptions of guard labor range from imposing work discipline, think of the corporate IT spies who keep desk jockeys from slacking off online to enforcing law enforcement like officers in Santa Fe Police Department paddy wagon department parked outside a Walmart.

53:03 The greater of the inequalities are in a society, the more guard labor it requires. Bowles finds this holds true among US states with relatively unequal states like New Mexico employing and greater share of guard labor than relatively egalitarian states like Wisconsin. Do you remember the movie Scanners? You know, I never...I've only seen the clips of the guys heads blowing up. I've never actually watched a movie Actually here's a better one invasion of the body snatchers would be better So we need to kind of have you know when that when? When they would see one of them and then or when one of them would see you and you are not A pod person there go so we need to do that when we spot a fed Thank God Mickey is not activated yet

53:58 And we have to have a better word than fed. Yes, a bad word is not good anymore like this guard labor thing though This is interesting but it's like too many syllables yeah, and there has to be some little Catchy little term that we can make into a jingle Yeah exactly and then you can play it on your pocket no agenda app You can play the jingles Push the button in the case only insiders would know but they don't know It's yeah, but it's pretty sad And you know what, I have some background in the spook arena. Totally! They're incorporations... news organizations is where they are the most because most CIA and FBI and other type of information jobs it's not all like running around with satellite dishes and spy satellites and secret little mini recorders a lot of it is just indoctrinating the media

54:58 It's just pure COINTELPRO. That is what a lot of the work is and in this case, you know just checking up on everybody. Making sure you're all on board with the program... Anyone get out of line? We have to... Oh! Sorry You will drown in a pool of aspirin. Anyway, so I'm watching the Democracy Now show with Amy Lipless Wonder Goodman. No no need to get personal John! I'm sorry... So i just think she's just someone that is on the air and so full of herself it's hard to watch and she's wordy Is she friends with Arianna Huffington?

CHAPTER 17 / 34 Discussion

Vancouver Winter Olympics Protests, Indigenous Rights, Budget Criticism

Activists in Vancouver organized the "Olympics Resistance Network" to protest the Winter Games, citing concerns over indigenous land exploitation and the $7 billion budget. The hosts critique the broad nature of the protesters' grievances, which include poverty and the militarization of policing.

vancouver· winter olympics· amy goodman· indigenous rights· british columbia

56:04 You know, I don't know that's a good question. I don't think so but they could be easily become friends anyway So uh, so they're playing as everything is slanted on the show to an extreme and their terribly moaning about the Olympics in Vancouver Not as though the Vancouver hasn't got enough problems of their own says it doesn't want to snow for the Winter Olympics which is just too funny. So they get some, there's apparently a protest and there's all this protest and they're gonna talk about the protests and it was like I'm sure to God it was like eight people in the protest And so they get all these news guys, there are more news guy than protesters and they're all listening to this rabid complainer. But it's not that she should be complaining about the Olympics in some way but no since she had the mics on her just gonna you'll hear this She decided to go on this rant about every injustice that she could think of that wasn't written on a palm of her hand but play it

56:59 The ad has not been publicly shown, but it's said to show the mother of... No this should be Olympics. Oh I'm so sorry! I just hit the Amy Goodman by mistake Here we go Olympics Address And in Canada, activists in the city of Vancouver are gearing up for protests against this month's Olympic Games. The Olympics Resistance Network has organized a people summit to co- Wow that sounds real 40s doesn't it? You're terrible! The Olympics Resistance Network coincide with the games opening ceremony. It ain't no agenda militia, boy I'll tell you. Organized a people summit to coincide with the game's opening ceremonies next week Harsha Walia of the Olympics resistance network said the Games are undermining indigenous rights and social services We see that the games have been overrun with a budget of over seven billion dollars Indigenous lands continue be exploited and stolen with ski resort development

57:54 all across British Columbia, increasing poverty and criminalization of the poor in the downtown east side a massive cutback in public spending and an increasing budget for policing and militarisation here in Vancouver. We have one billion dollars that are being sunk into a military police state in the lead up to the Olympics. Man what's your problem? Join The Club! It's like, but what is she going on about budget considerations and... Who cares? This is it. Nothing to do with the Olympics! And nothing to do with indigenous peoples either No I listen stuff and shake my head I go What is wrong with these people Well this is you know I feel bad because essentially she just angry but then your right She doesn't know how to project her anger into intellectual non sequiturs

CHAPTER 18 / 34 Discussion

Super Bowl Ad Controversy, Tim Tebow, Focus on the Family

A Super Bowl advertisement featuring college football star Tim Tebow and his mother, sponsored by Focus on the Family, sparked controversy before its airing. Critics on the left accused CBS of bias and censorship for allowing the pro-life message while allegedly rejecting other advocacy ads.

super bowl· tim tebow· focus on the family· cbs· censorship

58:46 Which is more than I can do, but still. Play the Amy Goodman and Planned Parenthood clip Okay, because I have a Planned Parenthood thing here as well. I think I got a couple okay The ad has not been publicly shown but it's background yeah, please this is the this is the Super Bowl ad oh There's a Super Bowl ad and everyone's commenting on anywhere on the left just commenting on because essentially you know Here's me here's the litany This horrible ad although we haven't seen it have you seen it no? I've seen if you see they know I haven't seen it But it's horrible This is almost like the GoDaddy ads where everyone's like, oh wait this has to be banned but no one's actually seen it because it's a PR stunt. Yeah and so these guys are all worked up and they're all in a lather over all of this ad because it was done by Gregor the consortium

59:38 which is one of the very hated Dobson group and they, oh they're terrible whatever they do is going to be bad because some...because these people are by the way Amy and the rest of you it's called stereotyping what you're doing. And its supposed to be bad according to your philosophies But anyway, leave that alone. Nobody's seen the other all worked up about it And so they start comparing it to another ad which somebody supposedly is Wanted to run even though at some gay dating service Which doesn't have the two and a half million dollars to pay for this ad and basically just shows two guys making out? And it appears to be filmed with like a camcorder like a cheap ad as would

1:00:19 take anyway. But I don't see why they won't take the gay ad and it's going to take this out that we haven't seen, nobody knows what it looks like and just driving me crazy to listen to these idiots but play this thing again sorry The ad has not been publicly shown but its said to show the mother of college football star Tim Tebow talking about her choice to continue her pregnancy in 1987 against medical advice from her doctor. The website Daily Beast reported CBS worked with Focus on the Family on the ad's script. Gary Schneeberger, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family said quote...

1:00:57 So this is actually, I should have played an earlier clip where she says that apparently the ad was presented to CBS and CBS said no you can't do this. You can't say that you can't say this so they censored the ads somewhat Wouldn't be a provocative ad but if you'd listen to the Daily Beast and their CBS helped them write the ad You know it's not when you give something to a publisher, and they say this has gotta go. You can't use it That's not helping you right now. It's called censorship so you know let's get us let's look at the story straight either Helping you helping you write The Ad is not the same as censoring it

CHAPTER 19 / 34 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Response, ManCrunch Gay Dating Ad, Super Bowl Media

Planned Parenthood produced an online video featuring NFL players to rebuke the Focus on the Family Super Bowl ad. Meanwhile, CBS rejected a commercial from the gay dating site ManCrunch, leading to accusations of hypocrisy regarding which "provocative" content is allowed on air.

planned parenthood· mancrunch· cbs· janet jackson· high definition

1:01:39 Anyway, sorry go on. ...about the specific wording of the spot and we came to a compromise Well Planned Parenthood responded to the Tebow ad by producing this online video featuring former NFL player Sean James and the Olympic gold medalist Al Joyner I'm Sean James. I'm a former college and professional football player Now you can stop it So apparently there's a Planned Parenthood ad to rebuke the other unseen ad. They've got the Planned Parenthood person on and they'll play that clip, they're gonna rebuke it, they got their own ad so then Amy starts asking the woman I'm trying to get this so we don't have to listen these long clips she asked the woman well have you ever seen the ad no no i've never seen the other ad are you going to run this ad on the Super Bowl? And she says No! We can't afford running

1:02:30 Down on the super ball. So what is the point? Just anyone have a clue here what the point is just to To rile people up and get some free marketing trying to get it to go viral That's the only thing I see it was not going anywhere because boring play sports writer part two than it was 20 years ago. A lot of people watch just to see the commercials and for CBS to give an organization like Focus on the Family that kind viewership, to me is beneath contempt and I think Planned Parenthood should have equal time on Super Bowl Sunday and should not have to spend one dime to have it. What's your response? I love that idea!

1:03:11 wonderful, wonderful thing. Hey how can't we just see Janet Jackson's nipple again? That was cool! and pre-election in come more pointed to the family pet peeve moment these people on this show none of them are interested in football whatsoever the sports writer wrote the people's history is sport which is a takeoff on his end book that people just united states which has got a socialist home it did get i doubt if he didn't really be he may watch the game the women sure aren't interested nobody who watches democracy now probably watches football i mean the twenty five viewers that they have whatever uh... the whole thing is that i have a tempest in the tea pot they're just making a big stink about this age of over something we've site unseen i mean it's at the most hypocritical thing and then this guy comes off the world they should give that dead in a socialist manner i might add says well if you know them run that that we need equal time in the planned parenthood ad should run to to counter it even though they don't know what does that is or what it says

1:04:09 I mean, it just galls me. This show the people who produce it and their attitude about things is just they're the ones who are beneath contempt. Okay, yeah. I like watching the game it's great television always like to see what the directors are doing It's high-tech stuff and then sometimes the ads are interesting But I watch for the technical aspect of the television show in HD. I haven't seen a Super Bowl in HD ever I'm very excited about that Yeah, that's cool. It's a lot better. Yeah, of course but all that other crap is just that as crap

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

The Cleveland Show Heroin Joke, Jimi Hendrix Misheard Lyrics

The hosts note a joke on "The Cleveland Show" involving Blackwater operatives and Afghan heroin, wondering if the writers listen to the podcast. This leads to a discussion of misheard lyrics in Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze," specifically the "kiss this guy" vs. "kiss the sky" line.

the cleveland show· blackwater· heroin· jimi hendrix· purple haze

1:04:53 It's crap. Let's have a little break, John from the Cleveland Show. I thought you were shipped off to the Middle East! I was but i heard you were in trouble so I raided a Blackwater operative and stole his 250 pounds of Afghani heroin The best heroin in the world Those guys are writing some good shit over there on The Cleveland Show. The best heroine in the world... I mean come on, are they listening to no agenda or what? Somebody's reading the news I Think the Cleveland show isn't doing too well in the ratings, but It's slipping that one in nice. Yeah Well actually there was one that was done on the on American dad That was very similar well. That's what we played last week which was the crack one wasn't it yeah? Yeah Thanks for listening

1:05:43 No, you know I do ten minutes after the show's over. I'm out of here. You're gonna check out Yeah, then you're like okay look I need to concentrate on the Nexus for Leo show. I know what's going on I'm not doing Leo shorty. I'm watching a football game Hey, you have the gay ad here don't ask but am I supposed to play that? Play that if you want to what is this is this the actual gay ad yeah, oh cool But this is the one with the camcorder It's just a poorly produced ad and most of it is music, but play it. To look at an ad that CBS did not accept. CBS accepted the focus on the family ad for the Super Bowl in The Daily Beast as they helped write it. Listen to how she's talking... I'm above everything... Helped perfect the script But CBS refused to air this ad from mancrunch.com, an online dating site for

1:06:34 I think i subscribed to that gay men 10 5 4 3 2 1 yeah thats what im talking about baby you suck! yeah, thats right. lets go for it. lets go. I wanna kiss this guy I really really really want to kiss this guy For our radio audience, the ad ends with a scene of two male football fans kissing in a statement. You know when for the first 2 years that I heard Purple Haze by Jimi Hendrix? I swear to God! I thought it was singing Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

Value for Value Funding Model, Advertising Skepticism, Time Savings

The hosts explain their "Value for Value" model, arguing that by not running commercials, they save listeners an hour of time per show. They encourage donors to calculate what an hour of their time is worth—ranging from minimum wage to professional rates—and donate that amount to the program.

paypal· advertising· mind control· minimum wage· hooker-busters

1:07:23 That's funny because it Because that did what what's funny, but I saw Hendrix played numerous times and what's funny is that it says? I want to kiss the sky. Yeah But when he performed it live He always point to the bass player point to the bass player and say kiss this guy Yeah every time it was anybody laughed you thought that was so humorous Okay, so I wasn't that off anyway hmm no um Commercial interruptions, John is one thing we don't believe here and here on no agenda And I'd like to talk about that actually. I'd like you to talk about it for a moment well this business are When when we asked for donations? You know they're one of the things that keeps cropping up

1:08:09 is, and I want to get to the people who gave us money this last round. One of the things that keeps cropping up is people saying well you know if you had what difference does it make if you have commercials? You know because you have commercials on other things you do. You do this, you do that, you uh you know me VO we got pre-rolls on some of our videos that take around test commercials. Oh yeah by the way let me just say um The Bush Haiti Fund dot org pre rolls and banners that show up next to our show I think they're scanning our show notes and thinking, here's how the ad networks work. Oh! There is a link here to the Bush Haiti Fund dot org. I think I should put up a banner next to this show. This will be really good which of course is not so good. We were writing a story on the Dvorak Uncensored site once about the crazy Muslim cab driver that refused to pick anybody if they are buying bacon for example

1:09:03 And so it was just a very nasty piece about these idiots, the cab drivers that were happening to be Muslim. That's why they wouldn't let bacon in their car and then showed the Muslim dating service thing shows up on the Google ads. So they don't seem to understand how to do negative stuff. One of the things I wanted is to make a plea for, because we're always asking for donations but you know, we try and get people to give us their leftover PayPal account or various amounts of money based on something or other but we haven't done this one and it's something that people out there should think about

1:09:40 and this is why we don't run ads. The typical ad ratio, we've talked about this before on broadcast media it's two to one you get two minutes of programming for one minute advertising and I'm surprised that good certainly on AM radio Oh am was probably worse but even television it's 2-1 because every hour 40 minutes worth a programming every half hours 20 so we do basically a two hour show with that ratio that would mean our show finished, it would take you three hours. I don't care how much fooling around you think you can do by moving the little thing somehow and getting rid of the ads. The ads would be embedded that are very difficult to get rid of. It's not as easy as it is on TiVo. So essentially what we're doing in doing a straight two-hour show instead of three hours

1:10:26 which it would take to do the ads and pay for the show, the way you know everybody some people have recommended is we're saving you an hour of your time. Yeah what's that worth to ya? Now an hour most people's time especially our listeners is probably The low end is typically not with everybody, because we have a lot of students. Why don't we just take minimum wage in California? Well that would be 10 bucks. The $9.97 to be exact. 9.97 would be good but for most people their time is worth about 150 dollars Really? Yeah Wow Think about it. Now, so if you were essentially saving you $150 if your time is worth anything... Then be hooker-busters, John! Figure out what your time's worth and send us a donation for that time because we're in fact saving you that money and we could use that money as opposed to like wasting your time with excessive amounts of advertising which is just ridiculous on a show like this

1:11:20 Which I don't believe really works anyway. It doesn't work anymore, and i just gotta come out and say it the only thing that works is repetitive ads that are just in your face all the time THAT WORKS! But any other and maybe, maybe from time to time a really clever ad like the Apple PC ads. Everything else is just mind control and programming and I'm against that and it doesn't really make you endear a product. And I think we've really tried for five years trying to change advertising. I'm freaking tired of it! I don't care. It just doesn't work so So think about the hour. That's a very good analogy. Give us an hour of your time, whatever your time is worth Whatever you're times worth now for the hookers out there who listen to this show You're gonna be spending I mean Let me see an out call is what does out call these days go for John about four and fifty dollars No, I think if you shop around you can go for about 250 You're reliably informed Like it

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Producer Email Initiative, AM Radio Expansion, Palindrome Donors

A new email initiative using MailChimp will update producers on the show's future, including plans to buy uninterrupted airtime on AM radio stations. The segment also lists recent donors, including a palindrome donation from Calgary and a plug for the ScanDoc document scanner.

mailchimp· am radio· scandoc· salzburg· calgary

1:12:23 Alright, please consider us because we got a lot of plans for this year I'd like to actually like to talk about one of the plans that were instigating on Monday We're sending out our first email To all of the producers who have helped us out up-to-date. Is that it? Yeah, the ones up to... well if it's somebody you know as of tomorrow I said anyone who has helped us out will get this letter tomorrow at 9 a.m in their box and what it is going to do we're gonna discuss the future of the show where were going with it the future of No Agenda stream in particular

1:12:59 and some other initiatives, just some promotions and other things we wanna do or the money that were gonna need for some of the things which includes buying air time because you want to put this on a some AM stations but in that case you have to buy it entire hour cause we don't want any interruptions. We don't wanna bunch of interruptions and thats going to cost money. And we discussed this in the letter at what should be getting tomorrow anyone who's donated I think upto Let me go over the donors for this week. We have a lot of $50 ones, so I'm just going to name them off. Daniel Howe is in Portland Maine.

1:13:40 Night guys coming up Tristan Lenin Mike Westerfield John trainer and Travis win And the only reason I want to mention them so I can say Wagga wagga Which is where Tristan's from Reinhardt Kane Wind River systems actually he's in Salzburg Austria, which is a just a gorgeous town to visit it and I'd recommend it to anybody. Kohei Zama in Tokyo, Japan Paul Heldens in Horst Netherlands and he wants me to read IJCD out of my own free will hereby declare that people on IRC are all very balanced individuals and not at all bipolar. And they are all members of the No Agenda Militia and we're proud to have them

1:14:22 And many of them are showing their butt crack and they're long flowing locks, and will actually save your sorry ass when the man comes down on you. T-Gone Murray in Calgary Alberta gave us a palindrome 5005 and he has no job if he says okay let's try this out I'm gonna give me fifty bucks if I get a job but he also requests that we never played the Miley Cyrus clip ever again. Okay done consider it done my friend We got $66.66 from Kyle Koch, who is in Cincinnati and wants us to plug ScanDoc.com which is a very interesting product by the way I would actually... Yeah! And I like that it's like an old-fashioned... It's made of wood right? Yeah for putting your little cell phone on so you can scan documents. Get it? Scan Doc, it's a pun. I liked it was it's a real low tech solution

1:15:18 and that was very nice yeah I thought it was good. And actually he put in two donations right? $33,000 for the ScanDoc and then Actually, he's also gonna donate $3.33 for the sale of every ScanDoc. Yeah so if you buy a ScanDoc you're helping us out Ryan Breedlove also Armory Mississippi 66.66 and he wants to push the March 3rd money making idea 104 dollars from Troy Dallas of Love Grove Drive and then we have our

1:15:57 executive producers Paul's marker Stephen Pell's markers John Kilburn Chris schooler and Elon Shemis, and that's what we got this week So so anyone when you're considering sending in money for your time? Please also consider joining one of our regular subscription programs because that's really the base that we have to go after long term. We can't just live on this ebb and flow of donations, one week it's good, then its okay then its really bad and by the way... It kind of goes in a flow like oh! we had a great week but next week we get nothing

CHAPTER 23 / 34 Discussion

Show Expansion Plans, MailChimp Newsletter, Listener Conversion Rates

The hosts discuss plans to move to a three-show-per-week schedule in 2010 and the sale of the "Delta Sierra" to fund equipment upgrades. They note that only approximately 1% of the audience currently contributes financially and encourage more listeners to support the show.

delta sierra· mailchimp· newsletter· conversion rate· donations

1:16:34 Yeah, seriously. It's like that's happened a couple times it's it's rather rather frustrating And we still want to move to that third show week and I really want to do it in 2010 it would really be nice I mean, I'm making the changes I promised The Delta Sierra is now officially up for sale And I'm gonna need that for the changes. I'm making in fact within the next two weeks You will hear a change in command center and all kinds of Interesting things, I'm just not ready to talk about right now Because you know the NES is all over the Google's by the NSA sorry What the NES? NAS I don't know where that came from NAS is a rapper so I've been listening too much hip-hop and

1:17:23 And anyway, if anybody who's contributed doesn't get that letter tomorrow at 9 a.m., check your spam box it could show up in there or let us know and I can... If people contribute today will they still get the letter? Yeah, I'll make sure that they get on their list. So what the whole thing we've actually found is that its percentage It's, and we're trying to work out exactly what but it's like 1% of the people who listen to the show actually donate. One percent! That means in the chat room you know there's about 398 of ya who are just in there enjoying the show and not contributing I'm just saying So go to noagendashow.com Dvorak.org slash NA or channelDvorak.com slash NA

1:18:15 That's no agenda show to org.org slash na channel of org comm slash any and help us out for this next week and The rest and the people who and you also will start doing it since I got the mailing list thing all figured out now because I'm using MailChimp for anybody out there wants to know I've looked at all other ones, and I figure this is a one of the best solutions It's very actually pretty cool And we will be doing a newsletter, so if you've given or I will probably create a special mailing list for anybody who wants the newsletter. But I don't have to limit that to any group of people I think we need to open up a new topic since this seems to be a continuous movement. Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity We just need cash, I know a lot of people want us in blankets or water Just send your cash So...we have a lot of Actually i'm amazed I've spoken to more PhDs and professors during the lifetime of the show than in my lifetime

CHAPTER 24 / 34 Discussion

William J. Clinton Foundation BBB Review, Charity Accountability Failures

The Better Business Bureau (BBB) issued a report stating the William J. Clinton Foundation failed several standards for charity accountability, including lack of board oversight and missing annual reports. The foundation reportedly has only three voting members—Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton—and held no board meetings in the past year.

clinton foundation· better business bureau· bill clinton· hillary clinton· haiti

1:19:19 You know, I'm not a huge academic but I get professors. I get really incredibly intelligent interesting people who listen to this program are sharing it with others which by the way gosh if you can't donate please turn a couple of people on to the show. I mean growing our audience is always going to help And we have a lot of people in the non-profit sector listening as well. I got this link which just blew me away from the Better Business Bureau, BBB.org It also reviews charities and it reviewed the William J Clinton Foundation This link will be in the show notes as is everything that we discussed on noagendashow.com

1:20:06 And I just have to read some of the conclusions that they've made about the William J. Clinton Foundation, now again the Clinton-Bush haideyfund.org does not exist the money that is being collected by this foundation, there is no foundation it goes into Clinton's found a foundation and this crazy Texas thing that George Bush was apart of collectively they have a billion dollars in assets and they've got huge salaries so here's the evaluation conclusions standard one

1:20:47 Oversight of operations and staff. The foundation does not meet this standard because its board of directors does not a approve the organization's budget, b receive information about the financial arrangements c have a voting member of the Board who is assigned responsibility of serving as the treasurer in general the boards treasurer helps provide independent oversight of the organizations finances so fail one. Standard number two Number of board members soliciting organizations shall have a board of directors with minimum of five voting members The foundation does not meet this standard because the organization has three voting members Standard number three. Hold on a second. This is the Clinton deal? This is the Clinton Foundation. There's more! Who are the 3?

1:21:31 Well, I think it's Bill Hillary and Chelsea. It's Chelsea! I don't have that doc open. We'll find out go on. Standard three frequency and attendance of board meetings an organization shall have a minimum of three evenly spaced meetings per year According to BBB, the Foundation does not meet this standard because the Board of Directors held no board meetings in the last year. Standard 4 Compensated Board Members Not more than 1 or 10 percent—whichever is greater—directly or indirectly compensated persons serving as voting members of the board. Compensated members shall not serve as the board's chair or treasurer

1:22:11 The Better Bureau of Business says the foundation does not meet this standard because the paid chief executive also serves as the chair of the board of directors that would be built. Wait, wait. Hold on a second! There's more to come This is the Clinton Foundation we're talking about? Yes and this is the Better Business Bureau These are the guys you call when you want to check on doing business with somebody Okay go on Standard number seven Board approval of written report of effectiveness Submit to the organization or the organizations governing body for its approval A written report that outlines the results of the aforementioned performance

1:22:48 BBB says the foundation does not meet this standard because it has not conducted an organizational effectiveness assessment in the past two years. Standard 16, annual report Have an annual report available to all on request that includes the organization's mission statement, a summary of the past year's program service accomplishments. A roster of the officers and board members or the board directors financial information that includes total income in the past fiscal year expenses in the same program fundraising administrative categories as in the financial statements and ending net assets better Bureau business says

1:23:24 The Foundation does not meet the standard because the most recent annual report did not include a roster of the Board of Directors and end-of-year net assets. And Standard 17, website disclosures include on any charity websites that solicit contributions the same information that is recommended for annual reports as well as the mailing address of the charity and electronic access to the most recent IRS Form 990 BBB says the foundation does not meet this standard because the organization's website Clinton Foundation org Does not include all of the recommended information for those charity websites that solicit for donations specifically It does not include a roster of the board of directors The William J. Clinton Foundation, however does meet the remaining 13 standards for charity accountability so Can we say fail? Well doesn't sound right One of the thirteen that they meet

CHAPTER 25 / 34 Discussion

Clinton Foundation Finances, John Travolta Haiti Flight, Scientology Ministers

The discussion covers the $132 million annual income of the Clinton Foundation and potential conflicts of interest involving foreign donations. Additionally, John Travolta flew his private jet to Haiti to deliver Scientology "Volunteer Ministers," a move criticized for potentially blocking more essential relief flights.

mark rich· john travolta· scientology· haiti· port-au-prince

1:24:21 I can look at him. By the way, total income for the past year $132 million dollars. They wait a minute they got they you see this is what people were worried about in the Democrat Party about it about Hillary and one of their reasons that was probably okay for her to run did not run for anything. They were afraid there's at least some people are afraid that if they put her in and somebody started looking probing this The sump fund or whatever you want to call it that Bill has, that he calls a foundation. And they're going to find a lot of Arab money, quid pro quo crash cash that came in because he did somebody in favor probably a ton of money from Mark Rich, that crooked guy who was given a pardon at the very last minute just before Clinton left office

1:25:11 And there's probably a lot of crazy money in there from you know, which is just 100% corrupt. I mean, I mean couldn't as a poor boy from Arkansas now he's close to being a billionaire just because he was president somethings wrong. Yeah and he's taking your money! Yeah for Haiti Don't send us blankets send us cash I have two more things on Haiti. Of course we spoke about the crazy Scientologists showing up with those yellow t-shirts that said like, Scientology healing minister and was freaking everybody out because they were like you know touching them And he... trying to heal them? So how did they get there, well John Travolta flew his jet down there filled with these yellow t-shirted maggots and there's a video which I will share little bit as they interviewed John Travolta on the tarmac of Port-au-Prince Airport in Haiti with is 707, I think it was 727. I think it actually surprised the press. We have the ability to help make a difference

1:26:15 In the situation in Haiti, and I just can't You know see not using this plane to help and they're offloading boxes of but they seem pretty light. I think there's t-shirts in the boxes actually It's not unlike when I saw you know my wife And I saw New Orleans we were there Right away with this airplane because gotta see this video it's freaky to see all the yellow shirts in the background And they're all like huddled around him So, you know what? I agree. I've been a fan of John Travolta but get your plane off the tarmac! Just get it off! Get it off! Let some real help in. Yeah they blocked all kinds of people from landing

CHAPTER 26 / 34 Discussion

Haiti Medical Crisis, Amputation Controversy, Doctors Without Borders

Reports from Haiti suggest a conflict between American surgeons and Doctors Without Borders regarding the high rate of limb amputations. Critics allege that some American doctors are performing "guillotine-style" amputations on salvageable limbs because they do not want to provide the necessary long-term follow-up care.

haiti· port-au-prince· doctors without borders· amputations· guillotine surgery

1:27:03 So, you know John you're a real big fan of comparing news stories right? Yeah because you can twist the same exact story to make them have it mean one thing or another just by varying the headline. So I was from Sweden and I believe let me double check maybe was from Denmark Looks like a Danish article, but I think someone in Sweden sent it to me. So there's two articles one is from the Guardian the communist newspaper of Gitmo Nation East and it's about these About the surgical work that is being done in the Haitian hospitals imported prints where they are amputating people Just left and right in fact They're calling it

1:27:52 War surgery says dr. George bootin a 73 year old surgeon from Fort Lauderdale guillotine style And you know, so he's blaming it on no facilities and it's you know We really can't work and you know It's we just got to chop everybody's limbs off chop-chop-chop-chop-chop-chop-chop-chop-chop and it's horrible because everyone's been maimed So they are just amputating people all over the place So you got to read that article first and then you go to this, I have a Google translation where Doctors Without Borders the French outfit who I hold in high regard are furious about what the American doctors are doing. And they're saying this is crazy these guys just chopping everybody's limb off and the only reason why it's because the American doctors who were there apparently don't feel that it's worth the effort

1:28:49 to save these limbs because, ah you know we won't have any support for them anyway. We won't be able to really maintain their health so...we might as well just chop it all off." So they're amputating and they use the same thing guillotine amputations for no reason other than the doctors are making these decisions saying yeah you know what's like we're not gonna stick around actually help these people so we'll just chop it off would be easier for him God, this is like gross. It's extremely gross and it's sickening and so this person who was blowing the whistle is very afraid he doesn't want to give his name he says you know I really don't want there to be this huge dispute he thinks that could really blow up if people knew what was really going on

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Climategate Scientist Phil Jones, Suicide Contemplation, David Kelly Comparison

Professor Phil Jones, a central figure in the Climategate scandal, revealed in an interview that he contemplated suicide due to the pressure of the investigation. The hosts compare his situation to that of Dr. David Kelly, the weapons inspector who died under mysterious circumstances after the Iraq War "sexed up" dossier scandal.

phil jones· climategate· david kelly· freedom of information· climate change

1:29:46 But it's sitting here this frustration the French in the French ranks growing by the fact that many of the American surgeons Surgeons just chop off the limbs and then leave they don't want to oversee the patients. They don't want to help anybody through Through care, that's what just chop it off We're done where a lot of these limbs could be saved freaky gets terrible I mean this kind of story is annoying well maybe even more annoying from the two-to-the head category Phil Jones, this is the scientist who's right at the center of the Climategate scandal. Yeah he was one of the big original promoters He says... I love this article! ...He contemplated suicide Why? Professor Phil Jones said in an exclusive interview with The Sunday Times that he thought about killing himself several times

1:30:47 He acknowledged this. Wait, wait how can you kill yourself several times? Well you know these guys are good He acknowledged similarities to Dr. David Kelly, this is what I found interesting the scientist who committed suicide after being exposed as the source for a BBC report that alleged the government had sexed up evidence to justify the evasion of Iraq which is a lie times What happened is he was a weapons inspector and he knew it was going on and it was all bullcrap And then they suicided him with a butter knife and aspirin So, he's saying yeah no it has taken a severe toll on my health. He lost like 8 pounds I stand by it

1:31:38 But now he accepts that he did not treat the Freedom of Information request for the data as seriously as he should have done. Jones believes the unit was maliciously targeted with multiple Freedom of Information requests by climate change skeptics determined to disrupt his incredibly important work! So, I found the connection to Dr David Kelly interesting Because this is a setup and it wouldn't surprise me if this guy winds up dead, and it won't be it'll It'll be two to the head for sure This is how that will get the sympathy vote and put people back on the climate change bandwagon And they've got to shut this guy up. If he cracks then it's all over Yeah, sounds like he's about to crack there was another two-to-the-head story which I Got a little mention just a teeny one in the I think The New York Post

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

Gigi Jordan Pharma Executive Murder-Suicide, Fringe TV Show

Pharmaceutical executive Gigi Jordan allegedly killed her five-year-old son and attempted suicide in a New York hotel, claiming in an email that documents on her laptop would explain her actions. The hosts transition to a critique of the TV show "Fringe," comparing its confusing plot to "Lost."

gigi jordan· pharmaceutical industry· peninsula hotel· fringe· j.j. abrams

1:32:39 Gigi Jordan, who is an executive for the pharma... and it's very on the The reporting is so sketchy. It's not funny I'm actually looking for the proper article here Gigi Jordan killed her son in the Peninsula Hotel in New York now She's doing like she was worth like a hundred million dollars And she's been running pharmaceutical companies and she checked in with her five-year old son, and they apparently killed him with a whole bunch of meds. And she was going to kill herself and she sent an email to a family member and said I'm checking out... Email! Of course you never know that's really from the person who looks like the person sending it but what's interesting in this story is that in her so called suicide email

1:33:36 She says there are documents on my laptop that will explain why. So I'm thinking pharmaceutical industry, I'm thinking suicide, I'm thinking why does someone who is worth a hundred million dollars... Why are you going to kill yourself and your son? What is going on and what is with these documents on the laptop? Geez! It sounds like a Law & Order plot. Yeah oh by the way speaking of law and order Or television plots. Have you ever seen the show Fringe, John? Yeah, yep. Because I know it's on in the UK... It's another J.J Abrams style crazy show. I've watched it on and off and its very enjoyable from the complete crackpot perspective they got crazy guys in there. Its actually kind of interesting but this is very much like Lost

1:34:34 It's like, you know a story that you can't follow and it's kind of just disturbing. And I is not really very good entertainment. It's just mostly just...I don't care for it." How about mind control? Maybe that's what its intended use is It might be a lot. I just can't watch it well a lot Well, you know what? It may be more fun when you listen to it because then of course you hear the horrible acting I love listening now ever since we've stumbled onto this factoid. It's actually more interesting So there's like an earthquake and of course isn't explained in explanation as to why the Earthquake has taken place And that's about a minute long clip all play all of its so you can hear some of the bad acting is kind Of fun

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Earthquake Machines, UN Environmental Modification Convention, 1977 Treaty

The hosts present a 1977 United Nations document, the "Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques." They argue this treaty proves that technology to create earthquakes, tsunamis, and weather patterns has existed for decades.

earthquake machine· united nations· environmental modification· haarp· 1977 convention

1:35:23 Hey, I thought you were getting out of here. Afraid not it's gonna be a late night Wait a second is that? Is that real coffee where did you get that? Is that real coffee?! Where did you get that?? I have my sources I got a cousin in Hawaii she has a secret stash she sent me some stuff Alright, so now the building's shaking. This is getting nuts! What is that? Six since yesterday? Yeah well I'm from California so I'm used to it you know... But this is New York Don't you think its strange? So there was an earthquake The lights are dimming The buildings rocking But this is New York don't you think that's strange John? Don't- John don't do you think thats strange And then just keep walking and by the way the coffee just holding it no problem

1:36:25 What are they saying on the news? That there's just these little quakes, you know. Microquakes Probably just some byproduct of global warming Ahhhh...there we go Oh brother! Microquakes A byproduct of glo- The science is in! Science! While we know of course that earthquakes are actually caused by earthquake machines and I have yet more evidence of this my friends, another document has surfaced very important to solidify my theory that many of these anomalies in weather climate and actual geophysical shifts are being done

1:37:12 are being created by military and government command. And we might as well remind them of another crackpot thing you said, which is they're going to direct one at Iran so we can keep them from bombing Israel? Yes because it's much easier to earthquake a country than then walk right in like they did with Burma not too long ago So anyway I have showed you testimony where these earthquake machines have been mentioned. Now I take you back to 1977, this is from the United Nations it's a United Nations document you can find in the show notes at noagendashow.com It is the convention... This is always interesting when you have these agreements, you have conventions, protocols all of these documents are distributed all over the place very much like the Lisbon Treaty

1:38:01 is the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques. So this is the agreement between nations in the United Nations basically not to earthquake each other and I will read the relevant article understanding relating to Article 2, you have to go back and forth, you have to be a lawyer to read this stuff The term environmental modification techniques refers to any technique for changing through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes, the dynamics composition or structure of the earth including its biota lithosphere hydrosphere and atmosphere or outer space. So now we scroll back down and read the understanding relating to article 2

1:38:50 It is the understanding of the Committee that the following examples are illustrative of phenomenon that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article 2 of the Convention. Earthquakes, tsunamis an upstate and ecological balance of a region changes in weather patterns clouds precipitation cyclones various types and tornadic storms changes in climate patterns, changes in ocean currents, changes in the state of the ozone layer and changes in the state of the ionosphere. It is further understood that all the phenomenon listed above when produced by military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques would result or could be reasonably expected to result in widespread long-lasting or severe destruction damage or industry

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Washington D.C. Blizzard, NASA Haiti Radar Flights, Oil Exploration

A massive blizzard shut down the federal government in Washington D.C., an event the hosts claim was downplayed by officials to prevent panic. Meanwhile, NASA is conducting radar overflights of Haiti, which the hosts suspect may be a cover for identifying offshore oil deposits.

washington dc· blizzard· nasa· haiti· radar

1:39:38 Does that not kind of tell you that they knew about this and it was possible in 1977? You know, these kinds of documents that you keep digging up about is kind of disturbing. Yeah, I'm glad you feel that way. So what's interesting though is that I was thinking about this kind of dorky idea when the news unit apparently Washington DC is just being slammed Oh and you know what we got one of our homeland security sources Deep Throat he said that there wasn't more than a more or less a memo to keep the horrible weather quiet because they didn't want people panicking

1:40:19 They said they kept it real quiet and there was no real warning. This is the worst storm in what 30 years? Yeah, it's a whopper It shut down the government! It's a blizzard And it's barely being reported on. Well, it was reported on I saw it on TV but yeah But there were you know our guy sent us this memo three days before the storm hit Three days and we didn't of course It was on the day after we did our last show so he didn't have time to report on it and he said wow You know, I'm hearing that these guys want to keep it quiet They won't don't want people freaking out they're gonna shut down the government. And of course The government has been shut down I believe

1:40:59 The capital? Yeah. They've shut it down? Well, you can't get there I mean you know... Here's an interesting story that just came over the transom NASA will study Haiti's earthquake faults with a series of overflights by jet equipped with special airborne radar system. Mm-hmm yeah they're looking for oil Well, they have to be careful. You know the oil it looks like maybe offshore so they're gonna have to deal with these with the fault that they by your theory had screwed up and you have to Because you don't want a buildup really expensive platform and have this thing get knocked around And there's still having aftershocks They are between five and six on the Richter scale which at least that's what the reports are That would make sense if things got us do you know once you get a bit quickly then everything's gotta adjust

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Rajendra Pachauri IPCC Defense, Asbestos Comparison, Climate Skeptics

Rajendra Pachauri, head of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), defended himself against "Climategate" critics by comparing climate skeptics to people who deny the link between smoking and cancer. The hosts mock his aggressive rhetoric and defensive posture.

rajendra pachauri· ipcc· climate change· asbestos· smoking

1:41:51 So Ravi Shankar Uchibai, I mean what's his name? Rajendra Pachauri. The head of the UN's international panel on climate change. That guy, that corrupt looking guy? Well he...of course he is corrupt He told the Financial Times on Wednesday that he has been the victim Of a carefully orchestrated campaign to block climate change legislation And who was behind it all John Is it Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak who are deniers? No! I would say that they are nefarious designs behind people trying to attack me with lies and falsehoods. Climate change skeptics are people who deny the link between smoking and cancer! They are people who say that asbestos is as good as talcum powder, I hope they apply the asbestos to their faces every day! What is he clinically insane? He does look like...

1:42:51 It does look like he's pretty insane, doesn't it? He looks like Svengali. He is a horrible looking person. Can you believe that?! This is like... People who say asbestos is as good as talcum powder! John I can't recall mentioning that on this show. Its people who say eating babies is a good thing and killing puppies. I'm telling ya' could the guy be any more on the defensive? Doesn't that just reek of guilt? Yeah its like The Shiesters comment Yeah, it really is. And I'd like to follow up on Stevia. Well it's interesting because our producer over there Alex in the UK he said look there's some kind of artificial crisis being created in sugar

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Stevia FDA Approval, Sugar Crisis, Male Reproductive Side Effects

The hosts discuss the sudden FDA approval of Stevia as a sweetener following a global sugar price spike. They cite older laboratory reports suggesting Stevia may cause mutagenic effects or reproductive issues in males, framing its introduction as a potential eugenics tool.

stevia· fda· coca-cola· sugar· monsanto

1:43:39 And then also the sugar is almost unaffordable at the big, you know. The prices are going to go sky high of sugar. Whoops! In pops Stevia all of a sudden approved to be used by the way what you'll be seeing in Coca-Cola is a hybridized form of stevia which we all know what that means don't we? Yeah, I mean it's gonna kill you. And I was looking at because the FDA wouldn't approve this for the longest time and I was looking at some of those earlier reports from the FDA and here's what they said cancer in the laboratory now this is a derivative stevia its Steviole can be converted into

1:44:30 mutagenic compound which may promote cancer by causing mutations in the cells genetic material. Energy metabolism, very large amounts of stevioside can interfere with the absorption of carbohydrates in animals and disrupt the conversion of food into energy within cells but the most interesting is reproductive problems it seems to affect the male reproductive organ system And when I look at all the eugenicist movement, I'm thinking this is perfect. We create this horrible crisis in sugar we bring in the stevia products so that we can't reproduce. Bada bing! And there's our crackpot theory of the day ladies and gentlemen that's what you're paying good money for Now you call me a crackpot but I don't trust it

1:45:24 Besides that you say the stuff tastes like crap it tastes like crap now somebody well, you know It tastes like licorice and I don't like licorice. And so I don't think it tastes that good Hey, I love licorice and it tastes like crap. Okay? So this stuff is gonna be a huge disappointment. I'm telling you, if Coca-Cola comes out with this stuff and it tastes like normal Coke, tastes sweetened like it was sugar then something's up because you can go down to the health food store right now and get some Stevia liquid little dropper and you can drop some Stevia in your tea or coffee or whatever you want them mixed with it. And then you tell me producers and listeners

1:46:03 You tell me it doesn't taste like crap. It is terrible, it doesn't taste anything like sugar. It has a kind of...it's reminiscent of sugar that's the best I can say for it Anyway, Alex who is a commodities trader? Is now on to the next deal so he probably made a bundle off of the sugar thing in the stevia guys really smart I love him for it. He says coffee is next they're all over coffee coffee shortages The prices haven't gone up yet But they're about to skyrocket So I suspect to see a new Monsanto bean coming up pretty pretty quick Yeah, well they're gonna have trouble pushing it because most coffees are grown out in the middle of nowhere. I'm sorry didn't mean to do that What was that? It was my coffee jingle i'm sorry Oh hit it! So what was that new jingle somebody sent us? Yeah I liked it a lot its kind of a staple for us.

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Toy Gun School Suspension, Iranian Revolution Anniversary, Unisex Bathrooms

A nine-year-old student was suspended for bringing a two-inch plastic toy gun to school, sparking a discussion on zero-tolerance policies. The hosts also note Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's promise of a "harsh blow" to global powers on the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution.

toy gun· suspension· mahmoud ahmadinejad· iran· valentine's day

1:47:12 Can you play that with people in the mouth like on top of it? Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth That's pretty good, that's not bad. You should make that like that music is a mix-up I can use it for the next pre stream show yeah, that's not bad. I like it

1:47:49 You got anything else Johnny boy. Let's see I get my little list here. So there's this Before you go eat your notes Todd Taylor we did that oh, I do have a little thing here Oh wait, I got one. I got one Okay, so some because we do the sun on the DeVore dot org slash blog all the time these stories so some little nine-year old came into school and with a small two inch long toy plastic gun, you know the kind you have with little soldier sets. Oh we gotta waterboard that freak! And the little kids go... and they shoot them all of the little things back and forth so he was suspended from school for bringing a weapon to school. It's a little plastic gun. He was suspended from school? Didn't they water board him?! I'm sure they wanted too With an Evian bottle? Suspended from school

1:48:42 The mom is just completely livid. Yeah, you wonder why? Alright and then here's something to look forward to for the week Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Sorry I butchered your name dude says the nation will deliver quote a harsh blow to the global arrogance on this year's anniversary of the Islamic Revolution February 11th A harsh blow will be dealt I can just mean it. I know what it means formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth I think he's gonna go out and hit people in the mouth I would like to find out what this is sounds to me maybe she's going to give another speech well you know what? We're gonna find out February 11

1:49:37 Which is uh... Valentine's Day. Yeah, no that's the 14th John. Please don't go to the restaurant on the 11th and say I want to have sex now in the bathroom please please it'll be the wrong day! I think they want you to have sex in that bathroom all the time You know I was up in Canada just enough They have a lot of restaurants in Canada that have unisex bathrooms Well thats really cool Can we picture at 11 I Just got a visual of you having sex in the bathroom and it's not pretty that depends no It's not No matter what you say, all right

1:50:15 Alright, I will be watching the game for the technical aspects of the television program. Who's playing actually this year? Take note who is playing! I really don't know Yeah it doesn't surprise me What's actually interesting about this game there are two teams that are playing that could have both gone undefeated the entire year and we'd have two undefeated teams playing against each other but it didn't work out because they screwed up at the end But for one thing, the one team is the New Orleans Saints which is the first time they've ever even been to the playoffs or the championship game let alone the Super Bowl so they're gonna be a nervous wreck but when you see this team play there they're phenomenal and they're playing at their game but they can also be beaten. And the other team is the team that's already won one, won one Super Bowl. That was a tough one I don't know why... But anyway they've already won once

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Super Bowl XLIV Preview, New Orleans Saints, Indianapolis Colts

The show concludes with a preview of Super Bowl XLIV between the New Orleans Saints and the Indianapolis Colts. The hosts discuss the technical aspects of the broadcast and the matchup between quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Drew Brees before signing off.

super bowl· new orleans saints· indianapolis colts· peyton manning· drew brees

1:49:37 Which is uh... Valentine's Day. Yeah, no that's the 14th John. Please don't go to the restaurant on the 11th and say I want to have sex now in the bathroom please please it'll be the wrong day! I think they want you to have sex in that bathroom all the time You know I was up in Canada just enough They have a lot of restaurants in Canada that have unisex bathrooms Well thats really cool Can we picture at 11 I Just got a visual of you having sex in the bathroom and it's not pretty that depends no It's not No matter what you say, all right

1:50:15 Alright, I will be watching the game for the technical aspects of the television program. Who's playing actually this year? Take note who is playing! I really don't know Yeah it doesn't surprise me What's actually interesting about this game there are two teams that are playing that could have both gone undefeated the entire year and we'd have two undefeated teams playing against each other but it didn't work out because they screwed up at the end But for one thing, the one team is the New Orleans Saints which is the first time they've ever even been to the playoffs or the championship game let alone the Super Bowl so they're gonna be a nervous wreck but when you see this team play there they're phenomenal and they're playing at their game but they can also be beaten. And the other team is the team that's already won one, won one Super Bowl. That was a tough one I don't know why... But anyway they've already won once

1:51:05 And it's got the great quarterback Peyton Manning. You have Peyton Manning and Drew Brees, these two quarterbacks is what you want to watch. These guys are- What's the team? I just wanna know the teams! The Colts and the Saints Thank you Your answer could've been that succinct I don't care. Oh, I just suicided myself. You should have! See what you don't even know if you... What i just said of you since you didn't even know who was playing this shows your disinterest in the sport Yes, I'm completely disinterested in the sport and give a crap I just want to see it because its great television that's all Alright It is interesting to watch the technical aspects they've always got something new they roll out the new grass valley group switcher or something like that The new telestrator I like it fun to watch Yeah suit yourself What time does it start?

1:52:14 3.30 I believe oh wow that's late Well, they want to get into prime time with it right okay? I'll have time to produce the show and get it up before then all right No agenda show calm for the show notes and donations along with Dvorak org slash na and channel Dvorak comm slash Na until Thursday my name is Adam Curry And I'm his counterpoint here in Northern Silicon Valley where the sun is shining, but we'll be inside instead watching football. I'm John C. DuBois. We will talk to you again on Thursday starting with a pre-stream right here on NO Agenda