Entomophagy

00:00 It's over the hill. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. This is your award winning give on Asian media assassination episode 1699. This is no agenda. Celebrating Climate Week and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all saying stop advertising and promoting gambling to the American public. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. I hear it's very bad for people. Yeah, I've heard that too.

00:42 It's like it gets people all addicted and then they lose all their money. Yeah. Yeah. But Mimi used to, Mimi used to, when she was younger, which is a kid high school, I guess she used to live in Reno. Oh boy. She's and she says she shot a man in Reno just to watch him die. Didn't she? She remembers, um, these new kids that would come into the high school and then they, within six months, One or two of the parents had a gambling habit and they had to leave the city. They had to move back to California, Iowa, or wherever they came from because they just went broke. She was so pathetic. She lost a lot of friends. They'd have some friends and the next thing you know they had to move out of the state because they couldn't maintain a normal life. I'm glad that you're sharing this with us so everybody can check themselves. Check yourself people.

01:41 Well, I got why I said this is because I'm watching the football stuff today. You know in the morning before the game started and they have all these different analysts come on and they're all recommending various bets. This is on the sports show. Oh, they're just doing it in the content of the show itself now. Yes, it's gone that bad. They have draft kings and all these couple two or three of these gambling operations. It's not even legal in California, but still. Really? They're just promoting bets. They're promoting people to throw money away. Do they have prop bets? My favorite, prop bets? Yes, prop bets, mostly prop bets. Almost everything's a prop bet. Hey, are they coming to take you away? What's with all the sirens? I don't know. You know, this has been, it's been like living in New York. Oh, it's because Kamala was in town. I don't know what it is, but there's a lot of sirens of late. Yeah. You know, Kamala was in town and it was, uh, it was, it was quite the spectacle.

02:39 Yes, I saw that I maybe have some clue I do I saw I saw the news coverage. It's pathetic Vice president Kamala Harris is here But her trip tonight into San Francisco might have had an obstacle or two our crews spotted a Waymo vehicle that had to be driven away from the motorcade route by police Vice President Kamala Harris makes what could be her final visit to California before the election. A little after 8 30 Friday evening, the VP touchdown at SFO as her motorcade arrived at the Fairmont San Francisco, an autonomous way Mo got stuck making a turn. The San Francisco police officer had to manually drive the vehicle out of the way.

03:20 Oh, that's great. Some Waymo advertisement there. That's good. That's good. Yeah. And I guess she went to the border. Was that the California-Mexico border that she went to? I don't know. I thought it was Arizona. Oh, I just presumed that it was California. That was yesterday, I think, and it was like, it was a nothing burger kind of visit to the border. Oh, you said nothing burger. I know I did. I'm pretty sure I did it on purpose. And so she goes there and then she starts blaming Trump for all the border issues. Yes, this is, well, I have this short clip.

04:02 This is just one of those unbelievable things that she says. It's great. Earlier in the day, Harris made her first trip to the border in Arizona in years. Harris expressed a tougher stance on illegal immigration. She spoke with local border patrol leaders as they walked along the wall. There are consequential issues at stake in this election. And one is the security of our border. The United States is a sovereign nation and I believe we have a duty to set rules at our border and to enforce them. It's just like, wow, okay. You know the funny thing about that, I didn't get that, I saw that clip I should have grabbed it, I'm glad you did because I'm giving you a clip of the day because that is unbelievable. Oh thank you very much.

04:50 Well, Bob, I have clips I think can outdo it. I don't think so. Well, I mean this morning... Not to the height of hypocrisy. Oh no, no, no, no, not... And by the way, for people who tune in like, hey, I listened to that No Agenda show, sounds like they got an agenda. Yes, we're against idiots. We're against liars. Liars and idiots. which former President Trump takes it to the next level. This is the clip that was being played all morning on the M5M. Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. So, of course, none of them played it in context, which we will do now. Which we will do. Yes, of course. Border czar Harris went to the border to lie in the most shameless and horrible way possible.

05:44 At the very site where she released so much suffering, misery and death. There's no greater act of disloyalty than to extinguish the sovereignty of your own nation right through your border. No matter what lies she tells Kamala Harris can never be forgiven for her erasing our border. And she must never be allowed to become President of the United States. She must never be allowed. That's over 647,572 migrant criminals who Kamala set loose to rape, pillage, thieve, plunder, and kill the people of the United States of America. And they're not gonna change. They're only gonna get worse. They're only gonna get worse. And our law enforcement system, we have the greatest in the world, but our people are told not to do their jobs. We don't want you to do anything. And they come from tough systems.

06:46 They're gonna love our system. Kamala is mentally impaired. If a Republican did what she did, if a Republican did what she did, that Republican would be impeached and removed from office. And rightfully so. Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. She was born that way. And if you think about it, only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen to our country. Anybody would know this. Yeah, so a little more context. I thought it was a much better clip in context. Oh, of course it is. It also makes more sense, but that's not what they do. That's not what the media does. And by the way, just because, you know, there's always people who say, you know, Trump, he never lies, right? He never lies.

07:52 You must have got some nasty email this morning. No, that's just the troll room. What are you talking about? I don't even need to see the email. I want to mention something that since you brought that into that clip, which is the number of, you know, I guess somebody in ICE decided to release these numbers. The numbers, yeah. Of number of known criminals that have been released into the country. the hundreds of thousands basically. And so this morning, I'm, you know, cause this is based on a note somebody sent me early this morning actually about how Margaret Hoover is actually kind of a not really a conservative and she's interviewing Hillary in a new. Oh yeah. I haven't seen it yet in the frontline, frontline interview. Firing line. She needs to lay off the lip gloss.

08:42 Well, Hoover's always been kind of a bogus conservative. She's some old school style. I'm just saying, just as a television production tip, back off on the lip gloss, Hoover. It looks creepy. Well, she's creepy. Yeah. So maybe you're projecting. Okay. She's creepy. Yes. Pretty but creepy. The other one in this category, and I should mention because it's a pet peeve of mine, is Shannon Bream. who I always thought was one of the prettiest girls on Fox ever. But she's exactly, and once she gets off of Fox, I'm telling you she's gonna turn into another Margaret Hoover. Because I was watching today, she was interviewing a senator from Georgia, and they brought up this issue of all these criminals that were released into the country, and out of the blue, and I didn't get a clip, because it was still done, finished.

09:36 But she did say that she said, oh, well, you that doesn't take into account all of those that have been incarcerated. Just just what? Just just this comment. And it was like, why are you even what does that get to do with anything? And she's and Breem is the one that was on. Now one will call it the Breem queen. Breem was on Gutfeld and they were talking about lawfare and how these five cases against Trump all kind of happened at the same time with all a bunch of people that quit the Justice Department and gone to these different areas to all do this all at once, indictments of Trump. And Breem, oh no, no, there's no way that's a coincidence, that's just a coincidence. What? Really, what is she doing?

10:25 She is an agent provocateur. She should not be at Fox at all, but she's got this nice smile and she looks like a Fox girl. You're making a mistake. That's why she's at Fox. We know Fox is no good. It's no better than the rest. No, I run by Democrats. That's your basic thesis. Yes. Yes, I know. I'm just trying to... I'm normalizing the concept that she's... Yeah, I agree. At a base level, Fox is no good. Anyway, that was a pet peeve of mine. I got it out of the system. And unfortunately when Trump went through that list, he forgot to say they rob. And they forgot... They're eating the dogs! He should just throw that in from time to time. I miss that.

11:10 Have you seen the TikToks of all these girls dancing to a mix of they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats? I've seen different mixes of they're eating the cats, eating the dogs, but I haven't seen the girls dancing to it because I'm not on TikTok, John. That's your beat. TikTok dipshit dancers. Is that like the Solid Gold dancers? The TikTok dipshit dancers? Yeah, exactly. It's a new version. So right on cue with this news that there's over 600,000 criminals Aurora, Colorado I guess they put out a press release and I I guess they haven't or from what I understand they have a new police guy like did they throw out the old guy and we missed that because I think in this report it says there's a new police chief I Didn't hear this either. Oh well this so listen to how they downplay the apartment complex issue Good evening, and thank you for joining us for Denver 7 news at 5 on this Friday. I'm Jessica

10:25 She is an agent provocateur. She should not be at Fox at all, but she's got this nice smile and she looks like a Fox girl. You're making a mistake. That's why she's at Fox. We know Fox is no good. It's no better than the rest. No, I run by Democrats. That's your basic thesis. Yes. Yes, I know. I'm just trying to... I'm normalizing the concept that she's... Yeah, I agree. At a base level, Fox is no good. Anyway, that was a pet peeve of mine. I got it out of the system. And unfortunately when Trump went through that list, he forgot to say they rob. And they forgot... They're eating the dogs! He should just throw that in from time to time. I miss that.

11:10 Have you seen the TikToks of all these girls dancing to a mix of they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats? I've seen different mixes of they're eating the cats, eating the dogs, but I haven't seen the girls dancing to it because I'm not on TikTok, John. That's your beat. TikTok dipshit dancers. Is that like the Solid Gold dancers? The TikTok dipshit dancers? Yeah, exactly. It's a new version. So right on cue with this news that there's over 600,000 criminals Aurora, Colorado I guess they put out a press release and I I guess they haven't or from what I understand they have a new police guy like did they throw out the old guy and we missed that because I think in this report it says there's a new police chief I Didn't hear this either. Oh well this so listen to how they downplay the apartment complex issue Good evening, and thank you for joining us for Denver 7 news at 5 on this Friday. I'm Jessica

12:06 Reporter. And I'm Jason Grenauer. First, Aurora officials are threatening to close two apartment complexes over safety concerns they say include an uptick in crime and deterioration. Denver 7's Veronica Acosta got the internal communications where officials recommend the management company... Internal communications, uh-huh. Yeah, that's a leak. Internal communications where officials recommend the management company addresses the quote criminal nuisance or face the consequences. It's criminal nuisance, see? It's in our internal communications. It's not...

12:41 TDA? It's no gang, it's just criminal nuisance. Two apartment complexes in Aurora with dozens of people living in them could suffer the same fate as the apartments on 1568 Nome Street, which was shut down weeks ago. The Edge of Lowry and 200 Columbia apartment complexes are the target of two letters signed by Aurora's new chief of police, Todd Chamberlain, deeming them quote criminal nuisance properties in violation of Aurora City Code. The letters sent last Friday point to an uptick in violent crime in the physical condition of the properties as public safety concerns, saying they could close as soon as September 30th if conditions continue.

13:19 Yeah, it's a nuisance. It's just a criminal nuisance. I like the way they downplay it. That was actually quite good. Well, that's what you do when an internal communication suddenly winds up at the 6 o'clock local news on Denver 7. I mean, yeah, of course, it's a criminal nuisance. The real nuisance, which I'm so happy I got a clip of this because I've only been hearing about it and been seeing the headlines, and this is about the looming strike which would kick off on Tuesday of the longshoremen. Oh, that one. That's a bad one. And yes, it is quite bad, and I found on the

14:00 What's Up With Shipping podcast, which of course, I subscribe to that in my modern podcast. Kudos. Yes. What's Up With Shipping. The guy's actually good. There's a couple of these. There's an ag show like, you know, What's Up With Agriculture this week. This is where you get some decent news. And the What's Up With Shipping podcast, they didn't have the guy on, but they had An interview with the union president, the East Gulf Coast Longshoremen Union. And so two clips, the first one is a little...the second one's short. The union president explains, first of all, why they want...they're going on strike and seems like it's still unresolved...at this hour, it's still unresolved, so anything could change.

14:52 and what that will mean. But today's world, it's changing into the future. They're not making millions no more, they're making billions. And they're spending it fast as they make it. I want a piece of that for my men, because when they made their most money was during COVID. When my men had to go to work on those piers every single day, when everybody stayed home and went to work, not my men. They died out there with the virus. We all got sick with the virus. We kept them going from Canada to Maine to Texas, Great Lakes, Puerto Rico, now the Bahamas. Everybody went to work during COVID. Nobody stayed home. Well, I want to be compensated for that. I'm not asking for the world. They know what I want. They know what I want. And if they don't, well, then I have to go into the street and we have to fight for what we rightfully deserve.

15:49 These people today don't know what a strike is When my men hit the streets from Maine to Texas every single port a lockdown, you know, what's gonna happen? I'll tell you First week be all over the news every night boom boom second week guys who sell cars can't sell cars because the cars ain't coming in off the ships they get laid off third week Malls start closing down. They can't get the goods from China. They can't sell clothes. They can't do this. Everything in the United States comes on a ship. Yeah, but wait, there's more and a threat at the end. They go out of business. Construction workers get laid off because the materials aren't coming in. The steel's not coming in. The lumber's not coming in.

16:44 They lose their job. Everybody... By the way, does this guy sound like George Carlin or what? You know, I was wondering who he sounded like and I didn't catch that angle of it. Yes. The steel's not coming in. The lumber's not coming in. They lose their job. Everybody's hating the longshoremen now because now they realize how important our jobs are. Now I have the president screaming at me. I'm putting a Taff Harley on you. Go ahead. Taff Harley means I have to go back to work for 90 days. That's a cooling off period. Do you think when I go back for 90 days, those men are going to go to work on that pier? It's going to cost the money, the company's money, to pay their salaries. Well, they went from 30 moves an hour maybe to eight. They're going to be like this. Who's going to win here in the long run? You're better off sitting down and let's get a contract and let's move on with this world. And in today's world, I'll cripple you.

17:44 I will cripple you and you have no idea what that means. I will cripple you! Well, there's a couple of interesting aspects to this. One is that the Longshoremen did an agreement on the West Coast and he doesn't mention that. No, he does not. He does not. He does. He talks about Texas, the main. He doesn't talk about the West Coast. And so I'm just just saying if if people are looking for investment opportunities. Not investment advice. No, just opportunities. And I don't know what they would be, but if they shut down the East Coast, the West Coast will be booming with activity. That means Seattle, Portland, Oakland, Long Beach, all up and down the coast, these ports will be filled

18:33 because everyone has to be redirected. So, and so that means the rail out here and everything else is going to be busy. It's going to be ridiculous. In fact, we're going to be swamped. Well, you have those ships sitting out at sea again, of course, because they won't be able to handle. That's what will end up happening. The whole bay will be filled with a bunch of boats. And prices will have to go up because of that. Also, just now you have to ship stuff over land. It's going to be nightmarish at one hand. On the other hand, it's going to be a boom, at least locally. on the west coast. Well, bully for you. Well, I'm not looking forward to it. The traffic's bad enough. Yeah, no kidding. Because that means the trucks will be loading and, you know, I mean, the place is just the freeways will be filled with trucks getting the stuff as far east as it can, even though once it gets to Denver, it's going to be

19:25 I mean, it's just not possible for the West Coast to supply the entire country. It's not possible. And the good news is Washington, D.C. will be affected by this. So that will get their attention. Now Taft-Hartley, I think is what it is? That's a provision that the president can call upon to force the unions to go back to work? I have to review that again. I forgot how they can do this. Well, he made it sound like, OK, that means we have to go back to work for 90 days and we'll be working for eight hours. Yeah, this is a slowdown. Slowdown, as the unions call it. But this, and he makes an incredibly valid point. Like, oh, we had to work. We were essential workers during COVID, as he said, COVID.

20:06 This guy was authentic, man. He's got tats, he's got the big chain. He's like a bicycle chain around his neck. Yeah, good on him. We need a little bit of crippling here. Wake people up. No we don't. Wake people up. Get them, get them, get them, uh... But he's right. He did say one thing in there that I thought was very noteworthy, which was nobody knows what a real strike is like in our current environment. The millennials don't know what it's like. The Z's don't know what it's like. Most of the Gen X have never experienced a real strike. And now whether there's going to be one or not is another issue. Well, they got two days. We'll see.

20:56 I don't know exactly what the real strikes a real real strike a real bad thing Yeah, but what happened to Boeing did that get resolved after their final and best price. I have no idea what's going on there I didn't I didn't follow it close enough, so I don't know what's going on But it's nothing like what this this is a big deal the Boeing thing is a you know just one company No talks broke off without progress so no Yeah, but they can stagger along. That's not going to affect the economy much. Well, it's probably good because you heard the latest about Boeing.

21:33 No. plug blowout in January. The new issue regards the rudder control system on some 737 MAX and NG aircraft. First discovered in February when United pilots reported rudder pedals on their MAX 8 became stuck in neutral. Let me just tell you something. The rudder pedals are pretty important for landing in particular, also for takeoffs, you know, in flight also.

22:23 But you really can't land with a crosswind if you don't have a rudder pedal. It's going to be very difficult. As they landed at Newark International. In that incident, the plane landed safely. The rudder is that vertical fin on the tail of the airplane that pilots use sometimes whenever they need to counter a stiff crosswind or if there's an engine failure. It's not used all the time, but it's there for a reason and that's for potential emergencies or maneuvering ability. That's a little disingenuous. You need the rudder. Flying the aircraft without a rudder is no good. And TSB investigators say testing determined a sealed bearing was incorrectly assembled during production. And that Collins Aerospace, which manufactures that part, notified Boeing that more than 350 had been delivered to Boeing since 2017 and were affected.

23:17 In a statement, Boeing says last month it informed affected 737 operators, airlines, of the potential problem, adding they're working with a supplier to address it. United Airlines is the only US carrier that had the component in its planes and says they've already been replaced. No. Ah! So it's already done. No panic. Just United. They had dudes in dresses replace the parts. It's all good. They fixed it. They fixed it. It's all good. Dude in a dress. Their CEO, dude in a dress. Come on. We wrapped up climate week and you and I- I didn't even notice. Yeah, we kind of missed it. I'm sad. There was so much else going on and NPR was all over it. They had a climate solutions week is what they had on the air.

24:13 I was listening to it all along. I never heard this. You didn't hear it? No. Well, it was mainly centered in New York is where that was the headquarters of Climate Week. And just, you know, NPR has big problems with their podcast division. It's essentially closing. But should. They got no good podcasts and they keep promoting them and ruining the normal programming. Well, I got the credits from the short wave episode. It's called Short Wave, which is the NPR podcast. And then this is the climate solutions edition of shortwave. Maybe if we listen to the credits, we can understand why they're going out of business.

25:17 And a showrunner. I want a showrunner. A showrunner. Dana Brunetti should be our showrunner. He would be good at being our showrunner. He probably considers that a lousy job. Oh, well he was a showrunner. Wasn't he the showrunner on House of Cards? I think he was the showrunner for House of Cards. No, I think he was the showrunner. I think he was. Yeah, as a showrunner, you're the boss. I mean, you're making it happen. And you have to take the licking. And you have to go on. Showrunner, for people out there, they never give them credit. The credit is on, according to, they have to, you know, there's all these rules nowadays that the producers guild and the directors guild, they have these rules about how you show credits. You know, they used to be in the audience, they show all the credits at the beginning of a movie, now they're at the end. The trick to finding the showrunner of a show is the last executive producer listed

26:13 before the writer. So they have executive producer, producer, co-producer, blah, blah, blah, all these, and then there's executive producer, and then writer. When the guy who comes up before writer is the... Currently the executive or is the showrunner for the show which is I don't know why they just don't call him a showrunner But they won't do it on credits. I Because it sounds demeaning which it does it sounds pretty lame the job we have to bend over for the network And this really should be called boss And they have to go back to the production guys the network doesn't like it. I

26:53 Darren O'Neill says he'll be our showrunner, which is fine by me. He is already. He's right. Rock and roll showrunner. Anyway, do you want to do a little bit of fun climate stuff just for for you? I only have the eating bugs part of the whole thing. If you want to do climate stuff, I don't really have anything on climate. What is what is the eating bug stuff? Well, there's a podcast. Ah, yeah, yeah, another podcast. Today's theme is podcast. And this is called the Can I Bug You podcast. Are they pro-bug? They're pro-eating bugs. This is like a podcast about eating bugs. And it's one of the problems, you know,

27:47 Most podcasts are not very good. No, I don't know if people have noticed but they're lame people don't really feel comfortable talking into a mic It's just a million things. It's just the timing is bad They don't get it then they edit it to make it worse. You can't edit to make timing work. That's for sure Oh, yeah, I'm gonna take out all of the pauses and the ums and the ahs. It'll sound great. Yeah So we have this podcast Hello listeners. Are you hungry? Hey, this looks like a good spot to rustle up some grub. Ew, what's that? A grub. What's it look like? Ew, gross. Tastes like chicken. Slimy yet satisfying. Bugs is food. That's what we're here to talk about. Hold on. So they have this reasonably well edited opening montage.

28:42 You know, it was like, which may just come from cartoons as far as I can tell. It sounds like a cartoon. Yeah. And then they go into the podcast and it's like this big room. And you hear the room and everything. This is very painful to listen to for me. Slimy yet satisfying. Lion King. Yes, that's what it's from. This food. That's what we're here to talk about on today's episode of Can I bug you? Our every other weekly deep dive into the wide weird world of insects. It's a deep dive. You sure it's not AI this podcast? Pretty sure. I'm UC Riverside spokeswoman Jules Bernstein. I'm here with my co-host Doug Yannica, who is the senior scientist at UC Riverside's Entomology Research Museum. Hey Doug. Hello. Hey Doug. And our special guest today is Erin Wilson Rankin, a professor of entomology here at UCR. She studies the ecology of arthropod communities and teaches a course for non-majors called the Natural History of Insects.

29:40 which introduces the subject of entomophagy, the idea of intentionally using insects as food. Hold on, entomophagy? Is that what she said? This is a good term. Entomophagy, I think. F-A-E-G-E? Phagy? Phagy. I think there's a ph in there. Phagy. This of course is different than people unintentionally consuming insects in their food, which they most certainly do. Hey Erin. Hi. Do you happen to have any information about how many insects are allowed in food products per the U.S. Food and Drug Administration? I know for a couple things that are particularly important to me, chocolate. Love chocolate. But you can have, it's allowable to have 50, 60 pieces of insect in 100 grams of chocolate. Oh, and they're doing this too.

30:30 There are bugs in everything now. You just go look at the supermarket. It has different names, but there's bug dust, bug sap, all kinds of bug stuff. You can have a lot of aphids, 2,500 aphids per 10 grams of hops. If you're a beer drinker, there might be some extra sweetness coming from the insects. Does that add extra protein? Possibly. There's such small amounts that I don't know if it's going to be statistically significant. It probably gets filtered out. I mean, it's particulate matter. Well, some people find this gross, but others think insects are the food of the future for a whole variety of reasons we'll get into today. Food of the future!

31:15 Sorry. Entomophagy, E-N-T-O-M-O-P-H-A-G-Y, also to be pronounced as Entomophagy. Depends on where you come from. Practice of eating insects. Alternative term is insectivory. Dude. Insectivory. Yes. That's what I would use. Insectivory, yes. Hmm. Well, What you just heard is really part of the problem is the FDA, without much fanfare, has approved all of these entomophagy products that go into food. Certain flours. Cricket flour being the worst. Cricket flour, yeah. What's the term for cricket flour again? Because it has a different word.

32:03 I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, let me just... Consult the book of knowledge! Cricket flower is... Can't find it now. Food. Thank you, Troll Room. Just call it food. Uh, cricket flowers... You know, I think flour... Oh, there it is. Thank you, Kulip Krustodian. A cheetah powder. A-C-H-E-T-A. A cheetah powder. Yeah, that's a better probably term than flour. Flour, F-L-O-U-R, indicates to me something that's from grinding some sort of a plant product. No, you're grinding a cricket.

32:48 I'm not a cricket. It's like, is there beef flour? Is there dog flour? I mean, no doubt the Haitians have that. No doubt. So, but yeah, but that's all allowed by the FDA. So people just put it in there and it's part of the climate change narrative. I think for a moment, since we have a guest on this MSNBC show who is known to the show for many years and comes from this period, we need to open it up. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. Yes, the climate gate jingle started for us, I'm going to say 2009? It was right during climate gate, so you'd have to figure out when that was. Yes, well that's why it's a jingle. And it was Michael Mann, was the guy who was falsifying his notes.

33:44 was modifying them because it didn't make sense. I think falsifying is a better word. Yeah, that's probably correct. Was changing his notes and his formula and it was found out, it was a big scandal. It was a hack. Somebody hacked the email system. Oh, it was a glitch. A glitch and a hack. It was a hack that the emails came out. And of course they denied it. It was a scandal. It was a big scandal. We covered it quite extensively. Bingit.io, you can hear all of it. So Michael Mann shows up with Katie Tur on MSNBC for Climate Week with, well, can you guess who he's with? I mean, if you have Michael Mann, one of the premier climate scientologists, climatologists of our time and of the IPCC, the International

34:41 planetary panel on climate change, who would he show up with for a bit of color in the commentary? Well I can think of a number of people but unfortunately I can't get Francis Collins out of my mind since I saw him the other day bullshitting about vaccines. No it's not Francis Collins. It's better than that. Hansen is the only the guy it should get but you don't see him anymore. No no no. Hansen is the guy who came up with the first No. No. A hockey stick. I'm disappointed you didn't guess. Malin is breaking records in the southeast as the UN is holding its climate week here in New York where scientists and world leaders have met to discuss concerns about bigger and stronger storms along with temperature changes across the globe. Joining us now, science educator and the Planetary Society CEO Bill Nye. You know him well.

35:31 You should have said a big phony we all know very well. Science educator. Who's not a climatologist in any way, an electrical engineer or something like that. But he has a new outfit. Listen to this outfit. ...and the Planetary Society CEO Bill... Planetary Society. Bro, we need one of those. My, you know them well. And University of Pennsylvania Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth and Environmental Science and author of our Fragile Moment, How Lessons from Earth's Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis, and a whole lot of other books, Michael Mann. Gentlemen, it's really great to have you. Oh, it's great to have you. Well, let's have Michael... Wait, stop.

36:14 I'm just gonna do a little mind reading here. I'm certain that Katie Tuer brings up the climate gate issues and Michael Mann being a big phony. by fudging numbers and she confronts him like a good journalist would, right? Your mind reading is off the chart. So far off that it's not on the chart. You were nodding your head as Melissa was talking, Marissa was talking about rapid intensification. Yeah, something we talk a lot about these days. You know, these storms intensify. Now this is the extreme. Remember, back in the climate gate days,

36:53 It was global warming. This is before it became climate change because the warming was provably not happening. Then it was weather is not climate, but now extreme weather events is climate. Yes. Far more rapidly than they used to. And there's basic underlying science that predicted that decades ago. I'm sorry. I have to interrupt again. No, no, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I can't emphasize enough, since you brought it up, it just reminded me, I can't emphasize enough, since we've been doing this long enough to say this. The idea that weather isn't climate was punctuated and pounded on the table to no end. Weather is not climate, weather is not climate. That's all they talked about. Now,

37:43 They changed it. Weather is not climate. We have a lot of those. What is this? In India, a severe heat wave has shattered the national benchmark for the hottest day on record as the temperature in the city of Hlodhi topped a staggering 123 degrees Fahrenheit. Several hundred people have died so far from the extreme temperatures across India. Increasingly deadly heat waves have been linked to climate change. That was mistitled. I should look for them, honestly. I should go back and look for them. But yes, they kept on saying weather is not... They pounded the table over it. Yes, weather is not climate, weather is not climate. And that was because they brought some stuff up during the winter and said, look, it's freezing out. What are you talking about? Weather's not climate. All right, back to Michael Mann with the rapid intensification. Basic underlying science that

38:38 predicted that decades ago. You warm up the oceans, there's more energy, more evaporation of moisture from the ocean that provides the energy to intensify these storms. They intensify faster and we are seeing that and the threat is, you know, as you heard here, you have less time to prepare because something that was just a weak tropical storm is a major, a major hurricane within a matter of 24 hours. They had a lot of time. That's never happened before. It's rapid intensification. And by the way, did... Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. This time I can do it. Okay. She's gonna ask about, you know... that they had no major hurricanes in 2023. How do you account for that? No. She's now going to move to Bill Nye. She's going to move to Bill Nye. So we need Bill Nye to put in some scientific evidence, some scientific analogy, a metaphor, something that we can understand. I keep hearing people say, you know, climate scientists go out and they say it's the end of the world, the climate change is here, disaster is coming, but everything's

39:38 fine. And then I look at them and I say, what about that hurricane? Or what about that fire? There are pockets of this country that are not fine. It's not happening, you know, it's not, you know, the end of the world like in a science fiction movie at the moment, but there are real life effects around people that are being displaced and killed. It's coming. People are being killed by climate. Well, and it's also when your power goes out. That's when the end of the world gets us in the developed world. And people who live in that area now have just not just rainwater flooding but flooding from the ocean which is salty which rusts your car and then you can't get insurance. Bill Nye comes in with some with a factoid we all need it because your car how about your car blowing up in the garage because it's an electric vehicle how about that bill didn't notice that one

40:35 Obviously, these two guys are here for a reason. You had a climate week this week. Any consensus happening at the UN? We're just one international meeting from solving it. From solving it? Yes. Oh, just one more. No, everybody... Oh, it's humor. People say to me, Bill Nye, science guy. Bill Nye. People come up to him and say, hey, Bill Nye, science guy. Can you imagine that? People come up to me and say, Adam Curry, podfather. Oh wait, some people do that. Diplomatic, generous? Magnanimous. How can you not tell the difference, people? One side is in support of doing something about these massive problems associated with climate change. The other side is pretending it's not happening. And you guys, we all want a villain and so on, but it really has been the fossil fuel industry that's worked really hard to suppress the science. Suppress the science?

41:45 Okay, maybe you should just explain what you really want the people to hear Bill Nye, science guy. A lot of people when they hear that though they think, God you guys are being, you're being too crazy, you're being too strict, too harsh. I like my way of life. Okay, I like my car. I like ordering things on Amazon. I like all the plastic. Yes, I play disc golf. I'm crazy for plastic. Yeah, but that's the thing. I mean, it is so ingrained in our life and what they're looking for is for science to come up with a way to solve this problem. Do we have a scientific solution, John? Is his solution to the science? You know, I'm befuddled by this whole thing. She is useless.

42:30 And he's an idiot. I mean, I don't get it. Why would they even put this on the air? Oh, the reason is coming now. On our side of it, we claim that we have enough energy to take care of everything right now if we just could apply it. And so the longest journey begins with a single step. We will phase out fossil fuel use and we will phase in renewable energy. But just When it comes November 5th, everybody, you've got to vote for the Democrats. There it is. I'm doing my best here. For many years, I've been the head of an organization that we work very hard to be political but not partisan in space exploration.

43:11 Be that as it may, right now the choice is clear. So you can, everybody out there, you can hate me, you can hate him, you can hate everything, but when it comes to doing something about climate change, you've got to vote for Harris Walz and that's what tonight's Not To Vote is all about. Oh my god. There it is. Now this is where you expected Clip of the Day. No, no, no, no, I thought the Trump clip would be Clip of the Day. I'm telling you, this is, that was the most, that, that, I'm sorry is not acceptable NBC should be NBC's bad enough. This is that head of Comcast again. I keep bringing him up. It's his This guy. Yeah, really that Comcast it should get rid of NBC because they're ruining the country I think you know we need a best of a best of show in the in the next couple of months I think you should do an interview with Bill Nye science guy and

44:02 Bet you can do it. I bet if you called up and say hey, I'm I'm a podcast you'd be like oh, oh you're a podcaster So yeah, I'd like to probably wouldn't do the due diligence You need no to listen to the show cuz once you did that he would never agree to an interview Do you think he would he would walk away while you were interviewing him? No, he wouldn't agree to it. Oh well That's shameless. Yeah, of course We are thinking of all of our producers on the East Coast South Southeast North Carolina, Tennessee. You can say all you want, they're not listening. Well, some still have battery power, but this was a very odd storm. It was, you know, they said, I mean, I got so I told you that the reporting was strange. The reporting was off kilter like it was. It was a lot of water and it destroyed dams. But Cat 4 wind speeds. That dam didn't go. It looks like it's going to blow up. Oh, it didn't go?

45:03 But there's a lot of destruction. But it wasn't that the winds weren't what anyone predicted. The winds were much calmer. Just a lot of water. And it was big. Just water. Just a lot of water. Yeah, a lot of water. So we are thinking of you, producers. A lot of water in there. I thought I'd be looking over my clip list. I thought I had this clip. I know I had it. I guess I didn't produce it. I'm not sure what happened. But there was a great clip somebody sent me from Florida, one of the islands where some Tesla. Yeah, was caught, was blowing up in the garage. It blew up in the garage and burnt down what looked to be a castle.

45:42 I mean this house was just as gorgeous because it was left a couple outer walls because the house burnt to the ground and the reporting, local reporting talked about how all these electric scooters were going up, boom, blowing up left and right and there was Tesla's blowing up the saltwater. This is very dangerous situation. Oh the irony of trying to save the climate with your EV and it catching on fire because of salt water, burning the place down. So I have a couple of things I want to share as a mini presentation. To share? You're going to share? I'm going to share a secret only if we hold hands. What happened with Nasrallah

46:30 I think is something we have, we need to do a deep dive. I have a lot of Nasrallah clips. That's why I'd like you to start it off. No, no, I'd like you to start it off. I'd like you to get it all out of your system and then we'll do some analysis because this was, I think, much bigger than people realize. I find it distressing to be honest about it. I have a series of clips here from the Hezbollah leader. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Hezbollah. Let's just start with them NPR stuff. This is two clips from NPR. To many, Nasrallah is the leader of a terrorist organization, but to others in the Middle East, as we just heard, he's viewed as a hero. NPR's Hadil Al-Shelchi takes a closer look. Is this Hez leader one? Yes, it is.

47:20 You don't like it? Okay, stop that clip. No, that has to come later. I'm sorry. Okay. What we want is, has Summary Good won NPR? Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate after an Israeli airstrike killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. The question of what's next for the two countries hinges on the war in Gaza. NPR's Jayna Raff in Beirut has more on what it would take to get to a ceasefire. Hezbollah itself is really unwilling to accept a ceasefire. It made clear when it announced the death of Nasrallah that it would continue fighting Israel and Nasrallah has always made clear that there won't be a ceasefire here unless there's a ceasefire in Gaza.

48:04 But NPR's Daniel Estrin, who's in Israel, says Gaza ceasefire talks are stalled. The question is, will Iran-backed militias throughout the region fire at Israel, whether that's the Houthis in Yemen, whether that's Shia militias in Iraq? Israel is preparing for that potential escalation. OK. Did you get a note from one of our Mohammed, Ghazni Mohammed? I'm going to talk about that in my presentation. Because I thought that was interesting. Let's go to summary two. The assassination Friday was an escalation of Israel's campaign against Hezbollah in a year-long conflict. Hezbollah started firing on Israel just after Hamas attacked southern Israel October 7th, leaving around 1,200 dead and kidnapping around 250. Relatives of the remaining hostages have called on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to ease up on hostilities until the hostages are released.

49:01 Meanwhile, President Biden calls Nasrallah's death a measure of justice. And Pierce Dipesh Shivaram reports. In a statement, Biden said Nasrallah and Hezbollah have been responsible for killing hundreds of Americans as well as Israeli and Lebanese civilians. Biden said the US's goal is to de-escalate tensions in the Middle East through diplomatic means. But ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas have been held up for months, and there is also no agreement to stop the fighting on the Israel-Lebanon border. The president said he's also directed the Pentagon to enhance the posture of US forces in the Middle East to deter a broader regional war. Vice President Harris released a statement too, saying Nasrallah had quote, American blood on his hands.

49:44 This is the guy we have to remember who blew up the Marine barracks killing 200 during the Reagan administration. Well, he's been around for 30 years, right? Yeah, he's been around forever and it's like they couldn't get rid of him. The Israelis finally got fed up, I guess, because they used bunker busters to blow up that area. Yeah, they got him like that in an eight second window and done. But this guy is, you know, he's a bad guy to us and the Israelis and everybody who's on that side of the argument, but he's a good guy. In fact, I get back and forth with somebody bitching at us because we were playing a clip about it. I'm going to talk about that too. That's actually what set me down the road, down a different path.

50:32 Well, I do want to mention that 1701, which is a UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which required Hezbollah to move north and for the Israelis to leave Lebanon in 2006. It was ignored by Hezbollah. I'm gonna talk about all that. And it was also ignored by this guy who kept writing us notes. I'm gonna read that in a moment. Okay, well I'm just setting this up. Yes. So let's listen to a couple of things about this guy and if anybody thinks that that he wasn't loved by the Lebanese. They're wrong as far as I'm concerned. You could maybe have something that maybe contradicts that. I do have contradictory stuff. Good. I will play before I get to the leader one. Well, let's go with his leader. Let's play that clip.

51:25 Nasrallah appeared on television for the last time on September 19th, denouncing the Israeli pager operation. Retribution will come, he said. Its manner, size, how and where, that we will keep to ourselves. The White House said today that Nasrallah's death was a quote, measure of justice for many victims. Nasrallah is survived by his wife and four children. He was 64. Hadeel Al-Shalchi, NPR News. He's been doing this for a long time, he was only 54. And then one more ancillary clip, I just play this Hez Love Hate clip and then we can play the two clips about him. So there was just this mix of emotions, there was mourning, but there was more than that. People here were confused. This is uncharted territory. People on the streets are also scared. They understand the gravity of the moment.

52:20 And they also understand that no one can quite predict just what comes after this. Tell us more about Nasrallah, what he represented in the region. He's a complicated figure. Israel and the US consider him a terrorist who led deadly attacks against Americans as well as Israelis. to many here in Lebanon and across the Middle East, he's a hero. After Israel invaded southern Lebanon in the 80s, Nasrallah led an armed resistance that eventually led to an Israeli withdrawal. And of course, on the Palestinian issue, he became the most visible and perhaps the most prominent anti-Israeli figure in the world. So for more than three decades, not only was he the top commander of Hezbollah, but he was also a religious leader and a politician. So the big question, Adar, what happens next? I mean, there will be a funeral, obviously, but I think there's just a lot more questions than answers. I mean, how will Hezbollah retaliate for his death?

53:11 And what about Iran, who is Hezbollah's benefactor? How do they react? And then, of course, Israel, starting with the Pager attacks last week. Israel has systematically degraded Hezbollah leadership. And is that enough or does Israel go further launching a ground invasion? We don't have clear answers to any of those questions right now. What was this outlet who did this particular report? NPR. Oh, that's NPR as well? Yeah, most of this is NPR. So we're going to go I mean I had trust the same clips from PBS News Hour but NPR seems to have the most and I will say this NPR I think was very sympathetic to Nasrallah I think they were totally

53:57 They played it like, oh, you know, this guy was the greatest. He was 64. His four children, his wife. He was 54. I think he was 54. They said 64 is what I heard. OK. Yeah. It would make more sense. He's been doing it for 30 years. Family man. Yeah. He was a good family man. So here we go with the last two clips. And this is the Hez leader one and two. To many, Nasrallah is the leader of a terrorist organization. But to others in the Middle East, as we just heard, he's viewed as a hero. NPR's Hadil Al-Shalchi takes a closer look at who he was. I want you to keep that him yelling and screaming clip in mind with what you're about to hear. In a fiery speech at a podium in Lebanon in 2000, Hassan Nasrallah compares Israel's military capability to a weak spider web.

54:57 It was in this year that the long time Hezbollah leader became an icon. He had just led his militia in a war that pushed Israeli troops out of southern Lebanon, ending an 18-year occupation. Nasrallah was born to an impoverished Shiite family in the north of Lebanon. Before co-founding Hezbollah, Nasrallah learned the ropes in the Amal Movement, a Shiite political and paramilitary group. He was chosen to be Hezbollah's leader two days after his head, Abbas Moussaoui, was killed by the Israeli military in 1992. He became famous for his thick beard, black turban, cloak and charisma. Charisma? Speaking with a slight lisp, Nasrallah appealed to regular Arabs. Lisp? He spoke with a lisp? Has-a-lah-fah-lah. I didn't hear that. I didn't catch the lisp. Well, it's hard, I guess. It's an Arabic lisp. I don't know what that's... A man with a naked face dies.

55:54 Okay, so she goes on let's go to the part. That's the end of that I think yes, that is yes Yeah, go to part two Mohammed Bazzi is the director of the Center for Near Eastern Studies at New York University He was speaking as if he was sitting with people in a cafe. He had this okay stop it Speaking to people like he was in a cafe. What kind of cafe is that? It's a loud one. Diversity. He was speaking as if he was sitting with people in a cafe. He had this accessible style that resonated with people. Nasrallah was a hero to many Arabs who were disillusioned with their own leaders.

56:30 His son Hadi was killed fighting the occupying Israeli army in 1997. In extreme contrast to most of the other political leaders in Lebanon whose children would be sent to Switzerland and universities. And so that solidified that he was making the same kinds of sacrifices that he was asking other people's children to make. For much of the last two decades Nasrallah was only ever seen on television and never in public for fear of assassination attempts. When Nasrallah spoke, the region and begrudgingly the Israeli security establishment had to stop and listen to the message he was about to convey. The political priorities, the military priorities of Hezbollah, there was also a sense that Nasrallah meant what he said. For the Israelis, Nasrallah was a terrorist who kept their northern borders unendingly threatened. He was involved in the bombing of the US Marine barracks in Lebanon that killed over 200 US servicemen in the early 80s.

57:25 Nasrallah also backed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad during the brutal 2011 civil war that killed thousands of Sunni Muslims. He's also going to be remembered as a sectarian leader. People aren't going to forget that, so it'll be this dual legacy. Hezbollah and Israel began creating fire the day after the Hamas-led attacks on Israel on October 7th. Hostilities intensified last week when thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies used by Hezbollah members exploded around Lebanon. Lebanese health officials said the explosions killed 39 people. Okay, those are some good backgrounders. So I think, by the way, this guy, the Sunnis can't possibly like this character.

58:07 He's killed Sunni Muslims, he killed American soldiers. I don't know why. Reagan actually backed off and vacated the area once that bombing took place. He was a bad guy. But okay, NPR plays him up as a family man and he took a sacrifice by not sending his kid to Switzerland. With a lisp. He's so normal. All right, so we did indeed receive two emails. And one was from one of our producers, and I'll just read the opening to the email.

58:44 I'll come back to it later. He says, on Thursday's show John joked about you and him being shills for Israel, which would be a fine enough joke. But then the blunder occurred when he presented to you and everyone listening a military industrial complex swamp monster extraordinaire with deep tie to the Israel lobby as a respected expert on Middle East affairs. And he of course sent that to me, so I replied and said, I'm copying John since you forgot to copy him on your email. Probably because he couldn't spell Dvorak. We also received an email from our dude named Mohammed.

59:23 And he reminded us of a previous email and he said, is it me or does it seem like every single powerful Iranian or Iranian proxy figure vanishes unexpectedly? It seems like someone is systematically getting rid of them. After each assassination will be a couple of days of colorful rhetoric followed by coordination for a very clean response that doesn't hurt anyone and bright lit missiles or drones that are intercepted by the Iron Dome so both parties can claim some victory and have good visuals for their side's social media accounts. And he closes by saying, just like Adam's Iranian friends say, a lot of people in this region think the Iranian regime is coordinating every step with the US and Israel, which is something that has been an ongoing theme.

1:00:08 So, now I just may be, I just connected a whole bunch of dots. It could be, I could be as worse than that guy, Ian Carroll. You know, this'll, you get your Tim Ford hat, this'll blow your mind. You know that guy, that TikTok guy? It irritates me. There's a lot of irritating guys out there. He's one of them. That's one thing we've noticed over the years So we need to go back a year to our and girls I want to mention and women and women We need to go back a year to October 7th last year, and I've just pulled a couple clips just for color This is McGregor who said the following. Well, I should point out that I was in Israel three years ago in February of 2020 and I had the opportunity because I was a guest of the IDF chief of staff to visit the Gaza

1:00:58 front, so to say. So I saw the barriers, I saw the walls, I saw how the Israelis had constructed what I thought was a very effective and tightly organized security system. To be perfectly blunt with you, I'm somewhat surprised by the entire thing. It seems almost incomprehensible to me that the Hamas fighters could have broken through as suddenly and as easily as they did without two things. One is a shameless incompetence for which I saw no evidence when I was in Israel or someone deliberately let them in. It's just hard for me to believe that Hamas was quite that clever.

1:01:42 If you recall, October 7th immediately was billed as, this is our 9-11! This is our 9-11! This is it! The Jews were saying it. Sir Brian of London, you got to understand because that was the messaging all across Israel. This is our 9-11 only it would be, you know, the 2,300 people is the equivalent to 30,000 Americans. Yes, this is the thing we have to remember the extrapolation that constantly took place which I found offensive. Well because that I believe that was a meme that was launched because it is indeed very hard to understand how Israel

1:02:20 let their security lapse. We don't have to go through all the clips, but you know, a cat could walk past that wall or that particular border structure and bells and alarms and everything will go off and machine guns start firing automatically, but no, none of that. And it took them hours and hours to come to where the breach had occurred. So, I think we talked about at the time the comparison to 9-11 is probably pretty apt because, you know, that was an inside job. I'm just going to say it. At least as a sufficient evidence that we never got the full story, WTC7.

1:03:01 And we never got the full story on October 7th. On October 8th, it was Hezbollah who started shooting rockets over. So now I'm going to go to another podcast called Call Me Back. It's Dan Senior and he does this podcast that's pretty much for the past year has only been about what's happening in Israel and Gaza and Lebanon. And he has with him guy named Nadav Eyal and here is their assessment of the situation in Israel, but predominantly in Lebanon. And what we are seeing here in the last 14 days and specifically with the killing of Hassan Nasrallah,

1:03:49 the leader of a US designated terror organization, a man with American blood on his hands, and mainly by the way, the blood of Syrian Muslims on his hands, dozens of thousands of Syrians. One of the reasons we're seeing scenes of celebration around Syria as a result, and not only in Syria, but across the region. I've gotten more messages since October 7th from friends and officials in the Sunni Arab world, particularly the Sunni Gulf. celebrating what Israel did to Nasrallah. Yeah, so I'm getting the same kind of messages. And the reason for that is that strategically, the tide has shifted. We have been talking on your show, and I've been making two points. The first point is that Israel is trying to restore the deterrence it did not have on October 7, when it was attacked by Hamas on October 8, when it was attacked by Hezbollah in April, when it was attacked by Iran and by the Houthis in between.

1:04:52 And the tide has changed. And what Israel has done to Nasrallah, the leader of the most well-funded and well-founded terror organization in the world, and to its entire central command, is something that is simply vibrating through the region and has changed the region already. This is a strategic change. Sometimes, you know, these kinds of operations, they carry tactical weight. There's always someone to replace. Not in this case, very much like Osama Bin Laden. This was the Hassan Nasrallah that entered this war. And he made the biggest mistake

1:05:35 by entering this war and aligning himself with Yigit Yassin Noir, the leader of Hamas. So as I'm listening to this podcast on the dog walk last night, what really triggered me was this next clip when he brought up UN Resolution 1701. All these calls for ceasefires were misguided, that the international community should have been focused on getting Hezbollah to move back, back back

1:06:14 There's been little to none of a serious effort to pressure Hezbollah. Yes, there's been some behind the scenes moves and whatnot, but there hasn't been a full thrall. The international community was not mobilized to pressure Hezbollah. And that failure to focus on Hezbollah the way Israel was keeping an eye on Hezbollah and thinking about its next move on Hezbollah is as responsible or as much of a driver to this moment as anything. Absolutely. I was amazed when I saw the Biden-Emmanuel Macron declaration saying after the quote unquote escalation in South Lebanon, in other words, after Israel was having one success after the other, that now they're calling for 21 days of ceasefire. So the way

1:07:05 The way this came across to me is, wait a minute, everybody was just letting this happen. There was no calls for, you know, that this was against, I mean, the minute something's against the UN resolution usually, and everyone's there, everyone's in New York. How come nobody said anything? So back to your guy from your clip, I pulled a little piece, his name is David Wormer. He's the guy who had, I think it was an NTD clip. Hezbollah never lived up to its side of Resolution 1701, and that's now the Israeli demand, that Resolution 1701 be actually implemented. And if the UN and the world doesn't force on Hezbollah to live up to its terms, the Israelis will go in on the ground and force Hezbollah to live up to its terms.

1:07:52 So back to the email from the guy who talked about our incredible blunder. He says David Wormer, a simple book of knowledge review would have sent up many red flags about this guy he would just heard. As per the book of knowledge, David Wormer has a PhD in international relations from John Hopkins University. He worked in Navy intelligence. He was the Middle East advisor to Dick Cheney and special assistant to John Bolton. This alone should be enough to make anything he says suspect dig a little deeper. And we find that he was working as an advisor to Dick Cheney. He was investigated by the FBI for espionage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When I hear all those names, and I'm already putting the Israeli 9-11 in my head,

1:08:35 Okay, so this guy has a message to send and actually what this blunder turns out to be quite the great find because where are we on the list right now of the West Clark 7? And then I came back to the Pentagon about six weeks later I saw the same officer I said, why haven't we attacked Iraq? We still gonna attack Iraq? He said, oh sir, he says it's worse than that. He pulled up a piece of paper off his desk. He said, I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense's office that says we're gonna attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years. We're going to start with Iraq and then we're going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. We have them all now, except for Iran. And Lebanon was one that we hadn't quite captured.

1:09:23 And Lebanon is really important geo-strategically. I mean, they've got this port, we know that there's huge gas fields offshore, the place has been in a state of disarray for quite a while, financial disarray. I think that it's probably true that certainly the younger generation is happy this family man is off the scene, that there's no one really to follow him up. They blew up with the pagers, all of the probably lieutenants or whatever, and there may be some kind of IDF. We already heard that on Thursday, IDF is probably going to go in. We may see some form of a revolution.

1:10:04 albeit probably a peaceful one, to change what is happening in Lebanon to make it US-friendly. And now we come back to our dude named Mohammed who says, you know, I wonder if America's working with Iran to get all some stuff done. We have. It's not Iran. It's not the Iranian people. It's the Revolutionary Guard. It's the mullahs. It's the supreme leader. So we need to take those guys out and we need a reason if only we had a reason what could the reason be? If I were president and a former president and a leading candidate, I'm the leading candidate by far to be the next president and that leading candidate was under threat but if I were the president I would inform the

1:10:54 the threatening country, in this case Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens. We're gonna blow it to smithereens. You can't do that. And right on cue, my neighbor, Laura Logan, connected to Defense Intelligence Agency through her husband, who no longer is in service, comes out with a post, urgent! According to informant in New Mexico, Trump's plane is the next target for assassination. Nine heat-seeking surface-to-air missiles have been smuggled into the US for this purpose. And there are three kill teams already inside the country. Trump has been informed, so have the US intel agencies and other authorities. Money has been transferred to a cartel to push this over the border. These people are cornered and vicious. They will stop at nothing!

1:11:47 So only one of two scenarios is now possible. Either... I like the way you dramatize it. It is good. Dramatized. Well, I mean, that's the way the Church Lady text group dramatized it, because they're all like, oh, Laura posted this! You know, yeah, yeah. InfoWars, multiple sources now confirm surface-to-air missiles inside US to target Trump Force One. Oh, you're getting there. I'm getting Alex. I'm getting, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. So, one of two scenarios is possible. One is something actually happens, President Trump is assassinated by a surface-to-air missile, God forbid. No way. I'm just saying God forbid, but it would certainly be a reason to target Iran. I think more likely is this is Trump's job and it is probably set up, and I just have to step back.

1:12:40 Where many people believe that Israel controls America, I believe the opposite. We control Israel. It's our aircraft carrier in the desert, in the sand. And this has been a setup from one year ago to get every single piece of the chessboard all the way up to Iran. And there will be a reason, probably for Trump as president, to take out the National Guard, the Mulas, the whole kit and caboodle. It may be just as surgical. He may have more pager blowups or whatever. And then bada bing, bada boom, we have the West Clark 7 completed. And then the neocons have exactly what they wanted. Instead of taking three years, it took them 23 years. That's what this feels like to me. And took them a long time. Can I take a little meta on this? Yeah, please.

1:13:36 Is it possible because of if you back off to your own thesis and Muhammad's commentary about how the Israelis and the Americans and the Iranians were already working together that they've already been taken over? Very possible. And and you know... And the rest of it is all show, it's all theater. Fireworks, fireworks. Yeah, completely possible. And that's the reason they had to get rid of Nasrallah. They were also, how did anybody, I don't care how good Mossad is, or our people, how do they know where this guy is where they can do a targeted bunker buster from a, I guess an F-16 or whatever plane they shot it from, which has been documented, a targeted bunker buster that went and blew up the basement and went through and killed this guy

1:14:32 when he's never ever seen. How did they ever know where he was? This is an inside job. Interesting you bring that up. I didn't clip it, but that AL guy on the Dance in Europe, Call Me Back podcast, he said exactly what you're saying. Like this was, what kind of intelligence, how did they get, and he went on to say, I have my thoughts, I'm working on sources, I'm not gonna say anything about it yet. So, everyone's asking this question, how was this possible? I agree. Inside job, it is the 9-11 of the Middle East and

1:15:09 And we're almost done. I mean, Syria, we have troops there. Sudan, big mess. It's all our arms that are there. And we've got to remember they've killed off that one superstar leader in, I don't know where was it, Lebanon. They got him in this hotel room and they blew up the, they supposedly sent a missile, it turns out to be a bomb, in a room in Tehran to take out this other guy. Mohammed is absolutely right when he says these guys have been disappearing one after the other and they're all a threat to the system. So now we just need some big fireworks. It would be kind of cool to have some surface-to-air missiles not hit anything but go off.

1:15:49 You know, more cool fireworks. I mean, that's, it has to be something like that. You gotta go back to ground zero on October 7th. Bull crap, the Israelis. Whoa, whoa, how did that happen? No way. This thing was a setup from the beginning. Unfortunately, had to kill, you know, like 50,000 men, women, and children in Gaza. But I think they thought it was worth it and they don't care they killed 3,000 Americans on 9-11. They don't care. Sent in millions of troops wound up killing a million Iraqis. They don't care. People get killed left and right. I always go I take it all the way back to that Korean flight that flew you know an inch over Moscow. It was just an accidental move or even though they turns out the thing was filled with cameras. It was taking pictures of some base. Yeah. And there was a bunch of

1:16:41 paying passengers in that plane. You know, they paid good money to take a nice safe flight to Tokyo, wherever it was headed, and they all got killed. Nobody cares. And by the way, they didn't care sending out a dangerous product to inject to the American people and the rest of the world. They don't care! Guess surprise! And neither did Trump. FYI. So this would be the perfect reason for Trump to become president. Perfect, he's been threatened. He says, hey, I'm gonna- he basically says, I'll blow your smithereens if you threaten me.

1:17:17 Although he said, oh, if it was an opposing candidate, yeah, whatever. You see the videos, these slick videos, which are clearly CGI, computer generated media, CGM maybe I should say, supposedly made by Iran, put on the Ayatollah's webpage or the president's webpage. And it's Trump golfing at Mar-a-Lago and this robot with a camera. and a little four-wheel job rolls along, and then it goes up there and it targets the president, and then all of a sudden the drone kills him on the eighth hole. This is all part of the show. The question is, does it come as an October surprise? Which would make sense, you know? Trump's the guy. He's the guy that'll take them out. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again. Everybody's teed up, especially Fox News.

1:18:22 Well, I think they've already got Iran in the pocket. I think this whole thing, they're not going to bomb Iran anytime soon. And I think the mullahs knew that and that's what this whole thing is, is something of a scheme. I mean, it's a complete scam from top to bottom. Yes, exactly. And with that, it's well done. It's very well done because we've already forgotten October 7th. We already forgot that. We're already beyond it. Or beyond it. Trump's out there talking a big game about it and oh yeah, the Iranian was gonna kill Trump. Okay, sure, sure. We'll see what happens. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the climate week in New York. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora. Thunder. Welcome to, I'm sorry, in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, also in the morning ship to see boots and graphene in the air, steps in the water.

1:19:23 All the games of nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. We're looking at peak trollage of 2,223 and currently 2,188. Is that good? No. Down 300, 400. Down! We're down! Trolls are down! Well, the trolls have been very helpful today. It's good to have you all in the troll room there at trollroom.io or if you prefer noagenda.stream. That's where you can listen to all of the live shows on the No Agenda stream which is now going almost as long as this show. The troll room has been going as long as this show as well. It's pretty unbelievable how long that thing has stayed with us. And other systems have come and gone but the troll room has always been there. And you can also experience that with a notification on your smartphone

1:20:17 with the Modern Podcast app. It will let you know when we go live, when you hit the bat signal, and you can listen to the live show in the app. The same one, if you missed that, where you can get the show once we publish it. 90 seconds after publishing. That's all part of Podcasting 2.0. Get your new app at podcastapps.com. We are now at 1,699 episodes. On Thursday, we'll be celebrating 1,700 episodes of your No Agenda Show. And I say your because As I explained just yesterday, I was on the new media show. And yesterday I was on the podcasting summit. The what? Podcast summit. The summit for podcasters. Really about podcasting 2.0. I was talking about how we do the show. You know, our little podcast here. I ran into a whole series of you being on all these random podcasts. Was it on TikTok? And did you get into the... Did the algo suck you in?

1:21:17 No, it was on YouTube. Oh, also same thing. And I was always very, I'm very complimentary. Am I not about you? Especially about you? No. No. Okay. I think there's, I will talk to you about it after the show. I do have some thoughts. Oh, oh, did I do something wrong? Well, no, it's nothing bad, but I think you, you, you have a pitch and you, I think you're deemphasizing one of the elements of the pitch, which is that we don't do a premium content. Oh, I, sometimes I forget that. Yes. because you can really go out, and the reason that comes to mind is there was some 404 Media or whatever this one group does, the sub-stackers, and then they go on about how they're gonna do a podcast about this column, and then there's gonna be premium content for these subscribers. And I'm thinking, why are you hiding? Is the information better than the stuff you're normally telling us?

1:22:20 Is it secretive? Can you ever refer to it because it's premium? Why are you forcing... Are you actually trying to service a greater audience or are you just trying to... cut them off. I mean, I just don't understand the mentality behind, and this was all started by Patreon. I do not understand the mentality of premium content. In other words, I mean, it should all, if it's all premium, yeah, it's like a stock market newsletter, you have to pay for it because it's all premium content. It's not just free information because you're gonna make money from it. It's money making content, yes.

1:22:58 But in the case of this show and all these other podcasts, why are you hiding some of the information from the general listener? Many of whom can't afford to subscribe to anything. We have a lot of people that I just know they just can't afford it. They can't afford five bucks. Yeah. And I think this is an excellent point. Thank you for reminding me. Do we have to have the meeting still or can we not have the meeting? There's some other issues. Oh, I'm gonna bring them out. I'm gonna be nervous. I don't know why you keep harping on that. You have now come up with a new thesis that we hate each other. I never said we hate each other. Yes, you suggested it. I said we're not really friends. You know, you said we're not really friends. We might even hate each other. It's a joke. It's not perceived as a joke by me. I'm sorry. Well,

1:23:51 Do you love me? I think we are friends. If you ask for a favor from a friend, I would give you the favor. I've only been to dinner at your house once. You live in Texas. I used to live in California. Even then once and you didn't even let me see your studio. Oh, no, you're not going to see the studio. Okay. Under any circumstances, but that's beside the point. We used to go to dinner a lot when you were near. That's true. It was really a build out because I got bored of telling people I should go back to saying we don't talk outside of the show to keep it fresh. That's that's where that comes from. Okay, and you also leave out the part that this is performance art. Yeah, you're not using it No, that's your term. You always use the term. Yeah, but you know, it's right. I Didn't know that you were reluctant to okay, you don't see it that way. No, I see it that way But I don't like the term I like saying because you know performance art remote think makes me think of Bjork and

1:24:53 You know, or Lady Gaga. Okay, I get it. I get it. Yeah. Well, with me, I can see where you could be finding objectionable. So that's not objectionable. But what I usually try to explain and and yes, sometimes I you're absolutely right. I'm taking the criticism as as constructive. What I did say in that same interview is, you know, we have sometimes up to 100 clips and we're just playing off each other. We don't play them all, but this is an ongoing creative process and we just flow into each other. And I'm not gonna, yes we do, I'm not gonna name the podcaster, because honestly I don't remember his name, but there was some guy who was on some podcast where I swear, because I had the time codes,

1:25:40 It was 37 minutes before he even put you on the screen and then he talked another 10 minutes before he let you say a word. It was almost an hour of the whole podcast of him jabbering. I'm trying to think what this must have been a while back. I'm trying to think it was it wasn't it wasn't not that far back. It was maybe three or four months ago. And it was yak, yak, yak. I mean this and it was, ah, I don't, I don't want to insult a fellow podcaster even though. No, I, I remember there was a podcast like that where this happened. I remember telling Tina like, wow, like the guy talked more than me. He just kept on talking. I don't, I don't remember who it was. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. But absolutely point taken. And of course we're friends kind of kissing cousins.

1:26:36 I'm not gonna take anything. It's kissing, I'm not kissing. Now do we not have to have the meeting or is there even more? There's one or two things that are a little more. Oh no, oh no. Hey, let me critique your interview. Oh wait, you don't do any. Okay. I've done a couple. You promote the show. When's the last time you promoted the show? Oh, I don't know. Exactly. I'm out there living on the edge, man. I'm taking all the hits and people email me when they're angry at you. Well, that's fine. It's working out for me. I refuse to have this meeting after the show. Is there something else you need to say? You can say it now. No. Well, is it constructive? Will it improve the promotion of the show?

1:27:29 No. It's just you bitching about me? Is that what it is? No! It's a suggestion. Okay, alright. You can suggest it now. No. Because it's... No. Because no. You won't respond to it properly in public. I will respond. You really can't make me mad anymore. Oh yeah. Except the other day. I haven't even tried, that's the reason. The other day you thought I was mad when I said, hey why don't you just do the show with Moe? I think I did say that. Yes you did. I don't know. I mean, I like Moe, but he's more than I can take. There you go. Hello, everybody. All right. So good point.

1:28:18 There's no premium content you can't access and people who can't afford to support us with their treasure of the time, talent and treasure. You can support us in other ways by telling people to listen, by promoting us somehow. One of the ways that we like to receive value in our value for value model is from our artists. We have a lot of them and they use noagendaartgenerator.com. We were talking a lot about AI on the last show, PS, Producers, you don't have to send me the Notebook LM podcast that you made up, okay? Everybody is coming up with ideas. Did you get a number of these?

1:28:59 Yes, and I'm gonna, since I'm working on a sub-stat column about this, one of them I do want to actually use, or have a link to. Yeah, anyone can do these. I mean, it just, notebook LM is terrible. And by the way, so I'm sitting at dinner with the family on Friday, and I just mentioned notebook LM, and JC, who's in the AI, he's got an AI company, says, oh, that's the greatest. What? So I had I called him out. He says the greatest. Let's do a deep dive. This is mind blowing. Oh yeah. Mm hmm. Ah yeah. Didn't happen that. And then after you called him out, what happened? He immediately backed off. He said, yeah, it sucks. So this one producer, since we're on it, he uploaded a text file that had like three words in it. I think it was like,

1:29:59 What does monkey taint smell like? That was literally the input for the podcast. And he did three others. You know, I was like, OK, but I do have to play just a little bit of this one. OK, you've got to hear this one. Today's deep dive is dot unique. Our listener wants to know what does a monkey taint smell like? And frankly, who am I to judge? Let's dive in. You know, it's funny, isn't it? The listener gives us this single open-ended question, no extra info, nothing. Just, what does a monkey taint smell like? Right. No, I was at the zoo the other day and I've always wondered, just straight to the monkey taint. So where do we even start with this? I mean, on the one hand, it's a question about a smell. Presumably. Though we're already making assumptions. Well, yeah, I guess we are. OK, so it's a question about smell, potentially, and it's about monkeys.

1:30:49 How are they making assumptions? That's exactly what the question was. This is why it's so best. What does it smell like? In some way. But it's also got this word taint. Yeah, that's the real curveball, isn't it? Curveball. It's a real curveball, John. It's evocative, suggestive, not your average neutral word for a body part. You wonder what kind of smell the listener is picturing, you know? Exactly. Like, are we talking about something acrid, musky? sweet, putrid, the word taint kind of implies something a bit offensive, right? Oh man, this is how bad it is. Now this is Google. I want to say a couple of things before we get off this in a second for people who think it sucks, but this is Google. They're editorializing. There's example after example of them editorializing one thing or another. It's got nothing to do with what this is supposed to be notebook.

1:31:46 It's supposed to be take your notes and then turn them into some sort of narrative so you can you know it's listen to it You learn you can be educated. It's not supposed to teach you you know life lessons It's called notebook. Hello. What does notebook mean? And the sad thing is, it probably cost $5 to create this podcast in compute cost. I think you're low. In compute cost. I think you're low. Yeah, I might be. I might be. That's... and dude, I'm telling you, not you dude, but dudes. Dude, when they really start charging you what it costs for this nonsense, it's going to end. It's over. No one's going to use it. Like, you know, someone sent me a song about the pod fathers. That's really cute. If it had cost you 10 bucks, would you have done it? No. Exactly. It's not that cute. It's because it's free. Nah, we'll talk more about that later. Let's get back to our artists because we were talking about

1:32:45 the concept of AI slop, which I'm hearing now even on Bloomberg, I heard him talking about it. So the term is out there, AI slop, which is ruining review websites, is ruining comments, is ruining websites where people upload short stories they've written. Everything is now chat GPT, anthropic, clod, slop, Gemini. And so we felt it was only fitting to choose a piece of AI slop which came from Comicstripblogger, created with AI. Yes, it's quite good. It's quite a good piece. Yes, well, give it to Midjourney or whatever AI system, computer-generated imagery system did this. It was a little computer lady with a bowl of AI slop. It was boom.

1:33:40 Deep dive. Yeah, and it was slopping all over the place. It was green goo. Yeah, it was good. She's a robot. Yeah, it was it was a it was a Compositions dynamite it did a terrific job. Yes, we almost went with Ukraine loves bombs by Nico Seim which we we actually liked it better just for the dynamicness of the of the image, which is a Ukrainian flag in a heart shape holding a bomb with a cute little smile on his face. But we immediately took issue with the Korean Divorce Act being almost unreadable. It was unreadable. Very small.

1:34:24 If he had jacked that up to, well it looks like it's about, at least on this little image, it's probably 14 points maybe. If he jacked it up to like 40, 50 points, so it was across the bottom, he probably would have won. Very small. You kind of liked Darren O'Neal's Curry on Dvorak 2028, but you said it's a violation because the name Dvorak was much bigger than the name Curry. It was a violation. Which is a violation. I liked the comic strip bloggers AI the snake eating its own tail, but you didn't even see it.

1:35:07 You didn't see there was a snake eating its own tail, so... I just saw a circle. Yeah, yeah. Then I, when you pointed it out, I saw it. Yeah, but that's a fail. And Darin O'Neal also had an AI eating itself with a kind of a serpent trying to eat its own tail, but never got to it. So that, no, that wasn't going to happen. And I think those were the main ones that we considered. Lots of people threw up some other AI based stuff, but of note was Rocket Boy who put two dorky nerds with microphones and then Curry Dvorak under them. Like, is that AI us or something? What was that all about? I was as baffled as you. Very strange, very strange choice he made there. Well, I mean, it's like

1:35:53 When you see it, you have to ask yourself, why did he even submit it? And there's two microphones, one's a big... and they're not hooked to anything. It's just like, it's a bad AI. All right. That's our time and talent. Thank you very much, producers. We appreciate the treasure that people send in. Treasure can be any amount, whenever you feel like it, whenever you feel like you've received value. from the show, you send it back to us in the amount that equals that value to you. You can do a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency, anything. We accept it all. We do like to highlight our executive and associate executive producers. You're an associate executive producer if you support an episode with $200 or above and we read your note. $300 and above, you're an executive producer and we read your note. And these are not just

1:36:54 It's just titles that we just throw out there. They're actual titles you can use anywhere. Titles are recognized in Hollywood, just like we were talking earlier. You know, showrunners, etc., executive producers. This is how it works. And you could even open up an IMDB account. There are over a thousand no agenda executive and associate executive producers. And we kick it off. You know, you may think I'm no good at my interviews. You may have... Nobody said that. You may have notes for me. I've got a note. I've got a note. I did. I got some... Trying to improve things. I got a note for some... But no, no, you take offense, it's fine. I'm not taking offense. Adam the lesbian. What? Nothing. Adam the lesbian? Yeah, some people get the gag. Hmm, okay. Well, the troll room is just doing question marks, like, what is he talking about?

1:37:51 Anyway, here's my friend the oil baron who has been discussed on this show with He's definitely give us some time and talent. Where is driftwood? Driftwood is that I think that's where Jason Calicam has just bought his ranch Is there a lake or an ocean around there where there's driftwood? Where there used to be a long time ago long long time ago And the oil baron comes in with $1,000 and just says, from the oil baron. And I could not be happier. Thank you very much, oil baron. And he hasn't, he didn't ask for a knighting or any type of title, but I will ping him after the show and ask him what he wants to do with it. He wants to be for a commodore. Give him a certificate. Yeah, yes.

1:38:43 He should be a oil baron Commodore, Commodore the oil baron. We'll get the information. And thank you very much, brother. That's my buddy Paul, the oil baron. A cool 1,000. So Jason actually did move there, huh? Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, this will be an interesting situation. And another friend I brought in who supports. Where's your friends supporting? Where's the Lib Joe's? Lib Joe's aren't moving to Texas. Dennis Harrison is up. He's in Beaumont, Mississippi. And he wants to be Commodore Harrison. Jingles, L. Sharpton, special, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, thank you for your value, love it. Knight name, sir, he wants to be a knight. I guess he's gotten to that point. And Sir Harrison of the Rednecks, table request, Wagyu rib eye shabu shabu with ramen noodles and Asahi super dry beer.

1:39:41 Hmm for your information Roseanne Barr at the Tucker event in Dallas was ridiculously over-the-top Okay lol he says kind regards Dennis. Yo, there's no real conflict jobs jobs jobs and jobs Karma all right We move on to Sir 8-Bit Ben from Evansville, Indiana. 51233. Let's see what he has to say. Sir 8-Bit Ben here would like to claim the title of Commodore VIC-20. With this V4V donation, I would also ask the peerage committee if I could claim my overdue Baron title, accounting an 8-Bit Baron Tesla license plate pick attached. I didn't see the picture.

1:40:31 Must be cool. Does he say Sir 8-Bit Ben on his license plate? I don't have it. I would like to claim the territory of Southern Indiana if the committee approves. I see no issue. By the way, got to Baron with my monthly chip donation of $6,502. Kindly asking other retro geeks to join in on that donation. Good one. Yeah, $6,502. That's the original Apple II chip. Yes, indeed. For those who don't know, the Commodore VIC-20 was a very important computer for its time, not only being promoted by William Shatner, it was one of the first computers used by many famous tech figures like Linus Torvalds, Sart... Satoru Iwata. Who was that? Satoru Iwata. I have no idea. John Carmack. Who was that? I know who that is, but I can't think of it. Elon Musk. I doubt it. Himself, Sir A. B. Bin, and the podfather, Adam Curry.

1:41:30 And he sent me a clip. Did you wait? I stop you your first computer was a vic-20 No, my first computer was the Sinclair ZX 80. Well, that's even nerdier. Mm-hmm. And then my second computer Was the vic-20 which was not called the vic-20 it came from Germany in Germany They called it something else. I forget what it was the vic-20 because vicken means it's the f-word in German Vic Vic and Vic and so would have been the okay And he said here's the clip from show number 15 15 of the no agenda show.

1:42:27 And we figured out how to copy the games from ROM onto cassettes and we would sell those. It was a lot of fun. There you go. How about that sound, huh? Couple of things. Yes. For one thing, and I'll remember that, but I will say that, and I should, because I should have said something about you built your own acoustic modem, really? I sure did. With a couple of speakers? No, we took a telephone. And a microphone? No, took an existing telephone horn. and pulled out the elements and then put them in two little cardboard boxes.

1:43:03 and then had a very small PC board that we connected to the back of the V20. Who's we? Me and my buddy Dick Rademachers. And we both worked at the electronics store so we could steal all the components. So you're a larcenous employee. Yes, on Saturdays. That's what happened to all the pencils over there at Mevio. It worked at approximately 75 baud. if I recall. Yeah, sounds about right. So I could punch a key and then that key would show up on his screen. Finally he says, can I get some jobs, Karma? After being a dude named Ben and leader of Ben's for over 21 years, I was recently let go. If anyone has an interesting problem to solve and is looking for an IT leader that's not afraid of change, has decades of infrastructure experience,

1:43:54 and actually understands how computers work, I can be reached at 8bit.fyi. Thank you, Craig Kohler, a.k.a. Sir 8-Bit Ben, Baron of Southern Indiana, to be in a few moments. And thank you very much. And here is your Jobs Karma. Hope it works out for you, brother. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Sir becoming heroic in Chererville, Indiana 500 and all he says is he wants to be sir becoming heroic Commodore of the unsinkable to Beautiful it's you we shall make it so

1:44:35 Anonymous, Vista, California, $500. In the morning, gentlemen, I've been wanting to donate for some time, and between a recent promotion and the prospect of a Commodore title, I couldn't justify being a douchebag any longer. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. I would like to be known as Commodore Swizzle of the Tiki Realms. Thank you both for all you do. No karma and no jingles. And thank you very much, Anonymous. Sir RJ of Grand Point. in Grand Point or Point, Manitoba, California. California, Canada. Manitoba, California. It should be a Manitoba, California. This $500 donation equals $702.60 Canadians. Thanks, Justin Trudeau. I miss my normal 3333 donation for my birthday in July as I've been working on my own exit strategy, which is now complete.

1:45:33 Between the carbon tax, GST, PST, labor tax, business tax, property tax that are all charged here in Canada, I've decided that owning an independent business isn't worth all the bullshit anymore. Oh man. So at 56, I officially joined the retired community and it's time to enjoy life. Whoa, what's he gonna do, putter in the lawn? He's gonna be puttering in the backyard. Dude, there's much more to do. 56, you're a baby, you're just getting started. He's younger than Adam. Yeah, yeah. I've bumped up my normal donation amount for late fees and as a bonus I get the Commodore certificate. As usual for my birthday, can you play the OG Sharpton clip? Sir RJ of Grand Point. Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins in the state of Wisconsin a national drive to push back

1:46:31 or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. But resist, we much. We must and we will much about that. Be committed. The classic. That is one of my favorites. It's the classic. That's what started us off on Finding Sharpton stuff. He's a gem. He's a gem. Deserves every penny. Every penny, yeah, you're always complaining about how much he makes. Every penny he deserves. We have done well by him. He's done well by us. Cory Baker is in Fort Myers, Florida, $500, and he says should be enough for a double nighting. Double nighting?

1:47:14 Hmm accounting will follow and we did not receive his email from Cory Baker. I looked I'm sure you looked I'm looking now as a matter of fact And I will say this we've got a Cory Baker from May 24th about a newsletter fiasco We got a Cory Baker from another newsletter fail. I guess he keeps track of this in October of last year nothing since Okay, Cory Baker, so we will keep it in abeyance for you and when you are clearly you can email us So when it shows up, we'll we'll take care of you indeed onward with sir Schwartz in Lange Deutsch Denmark eyes in Lange Denmark 500 from sir Schwartz now Commodore of Jutland Denmark Eon

1:48:04 That's it. Perfect. That's it. He's the Commodore. All right, Stephen. Youth-land. Stephen Crummey, El Cajon. Am I saying that right? Yep, El Cajon. El Cajon, California 500. This donation not only makes me a Commodore but puts me over the threshold for knighting. Dub me Sir Steve, Protector of the Eresa. ERISA. Oh, it's the law that governs pension funds, the administration of which is my profession. ERISA. Beef enchiladas and rocks margaritas at the round table please. And how about an F the EU from that demon Vicky Newland?

1:48:43 There you go. Thank you very much. Eat the round table. You know, hearkening back on that note we got from the guy bitching about our use of that character to determine the 1701 issue. He goes on about how it should be red flagged and this and that. Red flagged? Actually knowing all that about the guy, Was helpful, was good. It was, because we play Vicki Newland clips because she does have pertinent information and some of it's coded and some of it's necessary messaging and it's important to play this stuff. Yes.

1:49:23 And that's what I said, is even though it was meant as a you guys suck type email, it really helped me. I was like, oh, this makes so much sense. Yes, because it got you into a rabbit hole. Yes. That's a help in any regard. It was helpful. We figured it out. We figured out Iran. Hello. Oh, I'm not supposed to say that. People are saying I say hello too much. Are you saying hello too much? Well, I went to the transcript. I said it three times in the last show, which I think is too much. Hello! Hello! No, so hello! You know who says that more than you? Mark Levin! Oh. Hello, America! No, no, it's not just hello as in a greeting, but it's like, hello! Hello! You know, do you not get it yet? It's no good. What are we drinking? No, no, he's... Oh, this is a Topo Chico. Oh, from... They've gone back to the classics. Yes. No, he says it the same way you're... You know, he says it that... He doesn't say it as a greeting.

1:50:24 He does it exactly the same way you do, where in the middle of something you say, hello! So you don't know what... Well, that's more reason for me not to do it. No reason for Sir Mike of Axehead Watch in Clinton Township, Michigan... The wooden watch guy. Yeah, 333, yes. 333, those watches are great by the way, and he's apparently back in business. 333.33. Dear John and Adam, I've been quite a time since I donated, since I haven't had the funds. Due to some bad deals and bad luck, I've been unable to keep, afford to keep axeheadwatch.shop.

1:51:02 axeheadwatch.shop open. I have not been able to get back to being a dude named Ben in the mortgage industry since peak COVID after a year of unemployment, I became a forklift certified earlier this summer, which is, I've driven forklifts. It's fun. They're fun to drive. They're fun to drive. And then back to steady employment and income. I didn't know you had to have a certificate. I never did. I have also been once again nominated for the United States Congress on MI10.

1:51:45 Yeah, Michigan 10. And I've, uh, I'm sorry, yeah, Michigan 10. Now I can afford to open the online store back up. Ah! AxeheadWatch.shop. I'd like to encourage promo code ITM and it's gone from a 20% discount to 33% off all wooden watches. Axeheadwatch.shop for my going out of business sale. So he's gonna get rid of all his watches. These watches, we have both have one. Yeah, we both have one. We both have one. They're quite unique. And if the apocalypse comes, you can use it as a handy fire starter. Yeah, I never thought of that. I do believe, he says, this brings me to Baron. I would like to be Sir Mike of the Fairfax Liberator of Michigan 10, Baron of Liechtenstein. Please provide me with jobs karma for this election and upcoming business and some sort of health karma for my smoking hot wife Dame Kelly, who is back in the hospital unfortunately for a few days. Sir Mike of Watch X, Watch Head,

1:52:46 liberator of Michigan's 10th district. All right for Dame Kelly we'll add in a goat. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Mr. Karma. Sir Jeremy Tumpati is Associate Executive Producer today with a run-on number 234.56 Oakville, Ontario. ITM gentlemen, it's my 62nd birthday. It falls on a podcast day. It would be remiss of me not to donate. Thank you for your courage, Sir Jeremy Chumfate. Baronet, Fatty Oakville, Ontario, Canada. Alright, you're on the list. I'll tell you, if you like to burp a lot, this Topo Chico is the way to go. It'll do it. It'll do it. I know. It's very, very bubbly. Anonymous in Williston, North Dakota. 21060.

1:53:43 A little over a year ago I made an investment over $10,000 as someone who was supposed to mentor me with starting a business. Without going into detail, it's obviously run off with all my money. Oh no. That sucks. It's within the limits to file in small claims court, which I could do myself, but I'm really looking for someone in the community to help me out with it if they have some legal expertise, hopefully for free. Small claims, you know. I thought small claims had a limit of 5,000. Is that now 10,000? It depends on the jurisdiction. Oh, okay. In most states, I think it is 5,000. Oh, interesting. And it's pretty easy to win. It is. You just file it, you're probably going to win. Yeah. I can do all the legwork, but advice concerning the red tape and pitfalls would help me out. It's not really that many. It would really just come down to exchanging some emails here and there and just putting out

1:54:41 and just putting it out there if someone got the time. If I get my money back, I'm going to be a big donator. Thanks to all you do, everyone else please donate. Now okay, he's given us no information and he's anonymous. Yeah, that's really helpful. How is anyone supposed to help you? Maybe Jay has his information, so you can email notes at noagendashow.net if you think you can help him out. Yeah, maybe. That might work. And yes, do that. It won't hurt. And there's Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois, as we are just about rounding up our list here. Associate Executive Producer at 209.29. And Eli says, things on the national and world stage continue to become more interesting in the lead up to the U.S. election. One of my customers, a grizzled NAMVET,

1:55:34 Asked me the other day if I'm stocked up on survival food for potential turbulent times ahead. I told him, I don't know if you can ever have enough food, but I was pretty sure I wouldn't run out of coffee. Whether it's hurricanes, Hezbollah, or hackers, make sure coffee is part of your preparedness plan. This is a great one. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Stock up on coffee today. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay safe. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy. Oh, and he has a jingle here. What is it? What is it? BDSM, don't enslave me, Kamala.

1:56:13 I don't understand. Oh, just don't you just think that don't enslave me Kamala's it. No, I'm just joking. There you go. Kamala. Yeah. Racist, racist kid mispronouncing her name on purpose. Uh, Linda Lou Patkins, uh, comes in from Lakewood, Colorado as usual. And surprisingly enough, she asks for jobs, karma. And then she says, for a faster, more effective job search, visit ImageMakersInc.com. That's ImageMakersInc with a K. Your go-to for executive resumes and job search needs. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote!

1:56:57 Alright, we round it out with one final donation, Associate Executive Producer $200 from Stefan Anders in München. Deutschland, hallo Deutschland, here's the Hoff. And he says, thank you from Munich, Germany. Stefan, Stefan, thank you. And thank you to all of our executive and associate executive producers who have helped us out here today. It's very much appreciated. Of course, we appreciate any treasure you can send in our value for value model, time, talent, treasure, any amount is okay with us. Just send whatever value you got out of the show back to us and we will be very grateful.

1:57:35 Thanks again to these execs and associate execs of episode 1699. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! I have a little three clipper on election fraud that's kind of interesting, but before we do that, I do have my every show AI Gavin Newsome. To see if you can get arrested. Because you're breaking California law. Breaking the law. Every clip is a scofflaw.

1:58:30 So here he is, this one came out about two weeks ago and I missed it. This is news, I didn't realize that Newsom's endorsing Trump. Today I'm here to do something that some may think or believe is unheard of. Yes, the news reports are correct. I, Gavin Newsom, am here to endorse none other than Donald J. Trump for President of the United States. Trump's got this knack for making America the center of attention. Whether it's on Twitter or on the global stage, he's like that friend who always has the best stories at dinner. Who wouldn't want that kind of energy? But seriously, in this endorsement, I see an opportunity. an opportunity for dialogue, for understanding, for maybe just maybe finding common ground. Trump is hands down the best candidate in this race because if there's one thing I've learned in politics it's that sometimes you've got to dance with the one who brought you or in this case the one who's brought the most entertainment. Trump 2024. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Now did you just find this or did you make this one? I actually searched for it.

1:59:32 I think on this one, I think the speed and cadence is a little faster than it should be. Yes, it is. He doesn't quite talk that fast, but it's good. And I can see why something like this would upset him. Before you move to the election fraud, just to wrap up the AI. I'd like to play one clip because there have been some developments that need brief discussion amongst us. Open AI, the world's most valuable AI startup, has lost another chief executive. Chief technology officer Mira Murati is one of more than 20 key staff who've departed this year, leaving CEO Sam Altman with just one of his fellow co-founders. Is it a real problem or just growing pains? Let's ask technology editor Peter O'Brien.

2:00:20 Peter, OpenAI are currently trying to raise a lot of money. So surely this can't look good for investors. Hi, Carys. Well, you're right. OpenAI at the moment, they're trying to get about US$6.5 billion from investors hoping to close that round by the end of next week. that would value them at 150 billion US dollars. I think let's just start off by putting that into context because it's a tall order what they're asking for. That would almost double their value. It would also put them just not too far behind something like SpaceX, which has launched about 95 rockets into space this year. And, you know, the

2:01:13 inspire confidence that there have been all of these departures from OpenAI. But we've also seen further reports this week that OpenAI is looking to restructure into a for-profit with a non-profit arm, changing from its current format which is a non-profit with a rather large for-profit arm. What does this mean? This really means that investors are probably going to start thinking actually they are more interested in my return on investment than their current very nebulous goal of trying to create an AI for all of humanity which is smarter than humanity but which is also safe and beneficial right the investors want a return eventually and a shift to a for-profit structure would give some confidence. They've brought in the Saudis for this round which means they're really desperate in my book

2:02:04 Apple dropped out of this investment round like, no, we're not going to participate. And from what I understand, you don't even get stock. You get a new concept called PPUs, which is profit participation units. Not even a warrant. Wow. So when they start to make profit, then you're going to... Who's going to be suckered in? Okay. The Saudis. The Saudis, of course. I mean, Microsoft is going to put another billion in in compute so it's not actually money. You know, there is a cost. Yeah, some time on the punch card. Yeah, but like the old mainframe days. Hey man, can I have some... No, I'm reminded, since you said Apple dropped out, have you seen this commercial?

2:02:53 where, promoting of course the non-existent Apple Intelligence, AI, where there's a girl, she's at a party, she looks around the corner and she sees some guy. And the guy's standing there, she knows she recognizes him from another party from maybe a month ago. So she, turns around and hides behind a wall and then grabs her phone and says to the phone, hey, what was the name of that guy that I met at that party a month ago? Yeah, have you seen this? No, no. She says, what was the name of the guy I met at that party a month ago? This is an Apple commercial? Yeah, it's an Apple commercial. And then the phone comes back, oh, that's Zach such and such.

2:03:41 No, and she goes in this she turns around gets past the wall and there's a guy comes up to her says hey Zach How you doing? He's oh, I'm surprised you remembered my name And I'm thinking what bullcrap. Oh, man. Are they kidding? I guess not I'm not doing it. I've seen this commercial twice now. I'm looking for it on YouTube. I don't see it. Oh Yeah, well when you'll see if you watch well, you don't watch as much a network TV as I do so you might not know I don't just on the on the Apple thumb on the Apple thing Rob you have to be an idiot to believe that this could even happen

2:04:23 Robert, who was listening to us on episode 1698, said, I was yelling at my phone, I was yelling at my phone because you were talking about if Apple made that Sarko pod, you know, the death pod. that they used in Switzerland? Yeah, yeah, the pod. Yeah, and he said the name obviously would be called Dipod. Hello. He said hello, not me. He said the Dipod. I'm like, where were you in the troll

2:04:58 That's a good line. You would have taken credit for it. No, no, no, no, no. See, I even gave him credit right here. I'm giving credit right here. I have one letter to read since you're bringing this sort of thing up. This is from producer Chris. He says, I know it's probably too late for today, apparently it's not, but I wanted to address the CEO of Novo Nordisk stating before Congress that insurance companies control drug prices. We talked about this in the last show. Ultimately, you could say they do, like a grocery store determines the prices of a can of soup after a sale and allowing a coupon, but the drug companies absolutely control where the price of a drug enters the market. Drug companies set the average wholesale price, AWP, let's say 1,000 a month, then they sell the drug to wholesalers at some price less than that, let's say 700 is the wholesale acquisition cost, WAC.

2:05:56 which is then inflated a bit when selling to pharmacies and there are middlemen involved. Insurers set their prices a percentage of the AWP and going on and on. He says if Novo Nordisk wanted to set the price of Ozempic at 50 bucks a month, they could. They absolutely controlled lowering the AWP. which would cascade through the market as much as lower price to a lower price of the consumers. Saying insurers are ultimately responsible for the price of a drug is akin to saying car dealers are responsible for the price of a car and ignoring what their cost is to acquire it from the manufacturer. Sir Chris. Good point. Thank you, Sir Chris. Good point. Anyway, I'm just going to double down. Actually, I have a text group. I got a text group.

2:06:44 with the Oil Baron and my buddy Vic in Dallas and... Is this Usenet? It's IRC, baby. Usenet. What was the other one? What was the other... something... Fido... Fidonet. Fidonet. We were on Fidonet the other day. And I'm like, this AI is going to collapse. And then, you know, they're posting back like, oh, yeah, that's like Steve Ballmer said, no one will want the the mobile phone is going to add you to this list. OK, OK. They're believers, not the oil. Yeah, most people are. I tend to.

2:07:27 Believe you're so far ahead of the curve on this that it's going to go a lot farther than you think But they're having trouble with this round apples apples dropping out already that Apple we dick around is ludicrous They're asking for too much, but they need the money to keep it to keep the scam going They have to keep coming out with oh, did you strawberry? Oh, it's the latest strawberries the best go in and ask chat GPT strawberry how many how many states have an M in it. It'll come back with, you know, like Rhode Island. I mean, it's so, it's stupid. There's no I in the AI. It's artificial. Rhode Island has an N in it? Island. An M. An M, Mike. Oh, M. M. Rhode Island, okay.

2:08:18 Yeah, okay, that's all fine. It's all good. I'm just gonna tell you you're way ahead of the curve on I agree with you I know you do, but I don't think I'm that far ahead of the curve. I think you're farther than you should be What do you think it is then you think they can do another year of this two years two years two years into the Trump presidency and Well, Trump has bought in with, oh, we need all kinds of power. Power, need power for this. We're going to have huge data centers, which I don't know what we're going to do with them. Well, what's going to happen after AI collapses and you have all this extra excess energy? It's going to be a boon. It's got well, there's a two edged sword here. It could be a boon to the economy because all of free energy, free energy is a big deal. But it could also collapse the whole place. No, we'll be mining Bitcoin.

2:09:13 At least I will. I found three clips on election fraud on PBS that I thought were... Is it PBS or NPR? No, PBS. I think it's PBS. PBS. PBS. That I thought were fascinating because it brings up this Dominion... Because the idiocy of the whole idea of Dominion having a machine that basically fills out the ballot for you. It acts as a middleman. I think this is the machine I used in Albany last time I voted. It's a man in the middle. It's a man in the middle. It's a man in the middle machine and it's kind of stupid, but for some reason everyone's using them. And it's like... Gee, what reason could California have to be using them? Let me think. Hmm. So let's play these three. These are clips that are excessively long,

2:10:04 But I thought were interesting enough that I could make long clips. Was that a cue? Yes, it was. And I thought it was pretty obvious. It's a few weeks before a primary election day in Bartow County, Georgia, and election workers are conducting a logic and accuracy test of computers that stand between voters and their ballots. Where it says text size, touch that and then do big. Big, okay. They are ImageCast X ballot marking devices or BMDs made by Dominion Voting Systems. Everyone who votes in person in Georgia uses one of these touchscreen computers to record their choices and then prints a marked paper ballot which gets scanned and tabulated. So are these machines worth the added cost and complexity?

2:10:54 I advocated for them. Joseph Kirk is the election supervisor here. He says the ballot marking devices offer advantages over paper ballots marked by hand. It guides the voter through the process. and make sure that there's no question about their intent. A small percentage of selections on hand-marked ballots are disqualified because voters make ambiguous markings. Dominion's ballot marking devices may address that issue. But many election security experts say they inject stubborn uncertainties into the voting process. Fundamentally, it's a problem any time that you're going to put a potentially vulnerable computer between the voter and the only records of their vote. J. Alex Halderman is a professor of electrical engineering and computer science at the University of Michigan.

2:11:48 He is among those who advocate for hand-marked paper ballots. I guess it seems ironic that the best computer scientists in the world will tell you the best technology for an election is pen and paper. Well, that's absolutely right. And the reason for that is we know how paper can be secured. We know how digital systems can be attacked. Wow, for PBS, that's impressive. So does this all stem from the hanging chads? Is that why the computers were brought into it or just purely for corruption? The hanging chads goes way back, but I think it has to do with people smudging or, you know, and they, I don't know what really, I don't, there's no real reason as far as I'm concerned, but they do this and I'm thinking, and I've used the machine so I can tell you what you do. You go in there, you do the voting on the machine and then it prints out the ballot.

2:12:43 On paper with the votes. You look it over. You look it over and you voted for this guy. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And then you stick it in the... You file it and then it counts it. Wait, wait, wait. Don't you stick it in a machine that counts it? Well, the machine... Yes, you stick it in a machine that counts it and it should just count it. Yeah, but that's it. So where do you think... That's it. That's where the problem is. No. That's what I thought that might be a problem in the accounting machine. When I heard this next part, what the real problem is...

2:13:21 Because because you can go back and make these you can see what I did I voted here And I voted there, and I had this next time I do this. I'm gonna vote by hand. I'm gonna go in and vote I'm gonna take a picture of the ballot because of the little interesting the gotcha in here Are you allowed to take your camera into the polling booth? I don't think why not I don't think you're allowed Why not well because you know exactly what you're saying because they don't want any evidence I have seen no signage of any sort saying I can't have a camera in my private little voting booth. They have signs here in Texas where we vote.

2:14:00 No cameras, no guns, which is a big bummer. Well, the guns I can see. Hold on a second, let me pull all these guns out. No, I don't think you can use them. I've never seen such a sign and I don't see why it would make a difference. All right, I'll bail you out, don't worry. But you won't, thank you, thank you. You're a friend. Yeah, I am a friend. We're friends. We're friends, okay? We're good friends, bail each other out. At first glance, you know, what you just said is what I logically would think too, but no, it turns out there's a more interesting way of cheating that I was like, what? Here we go. The risks aren't even comparable. Halderman has spent a lot of time studying the risks.

2:14:44 He is an expert witness for the plaintiffs in a pending federal lawsuit seeking an injunction against using the current voting system. Haldeman says he and his team found nine vulnerabilities in the Dominion system. We met at a law office in Atlanta in March. He showed me some of what he demonstrated in open court. We thought like an attacker. What could an attacker want to do? How could an attacker circumvent the layers of protection that are in this machine and in a real polling place? Halderman demonstrated a few seemingly easy ways to breach the security of the Dominion ballot marking device. He used a pen to recycle the power, which gave him administrative control of the computer. What?

2:15:29 And he used a widely available USB device favored by computer security experts and hackers to rewrite the software of the machine. All of this mischief could occur without an obvious trace. That's because the scanner that tabulates the votes does not look at the human readable text. Instead, it derives its data from this QR code. We can change just the QR code and leave all of the voter visible text identical to what the voter entered on screen. So as a voter, there's nothing at all that you can see that's going to indicate there was a problem. Halderman and his team worry that the hacks could propagate through an entire county or even statewide.

2:16:16 While the ballot marking devices are not directly plugged into the Internet, as they are updated and operated, they regularly exchange data with online systems through USB memory sticks and smart cards. That can potentially provide a route for hackers far away on the Internet to gain access to BMDs. The kinds of attackers that worry me in this scenario include some of the most sophisticated adversaries in the world, foreign governments. And Democrats. Wow. So there's a QR code on your ballot. Yeah. Oh, man. That's pretty crazy. So I thought that was interesting. Of course, now we have to, you know, you can't give this report without like slamming the Republicans. Yeah, got to. So there's been examples of corruption in different areas of the country by both Democrats and Republicans. We've known this forever.

2:17:18 And so they do an exemplification. They defend the machine and they exemplify what could possibly happen using a Republican example, which is really done for the purposes of showing it could be done. But it's beside the point. NPR or PBS did its job of making sure they slam the Republicans in this matter. But here we go with the final analysis. We asked Dominion for a response. A spokesperson emailed us this. The claim that someone could hack an election with a pen is flatly false. A court directive gave Mr. Haldeman, as plaintiff's paid expert, unfettered access to system security features, including passwords, security cards, election files and more. This did not take into account the many layers of physical and operational safeguards.

2:18:10 There is no evidence that any of these apparent vulnerabilities have ever been exploited. Georgia State Election Officials say they are hypothetical scenarios. almost always are mitigated by the processes that are put in place around the election system itself. Gabe Sterling is the chief operating and financial officer for the Secretary of State. He says the many layers of people and processes surrounding these machines make it impossible for a voter to reboot them with a pen or insert a USB device without being detected. So what Alex Halderman demonstrated, you believe, is not a real world scenario? The computer experts focus solely, solely, solely on the computer. They focus nothing on voting processes and human behavior, but they don't look at the entirety of how the system works.

2:19:11 The reality of it is, is there's so many safeguards around it. But what if there was an inside job? This is exactly what happened in early 2021 in rural Coffey County, Georgia. The election supervisor and the local chair of the Republican Party invited Trump campaign allies and a data forensics team into the secure area where the Dominion machines and the election management server are stored. For several days, they copied proprietary software and confidential data. It is one of the most infamous security breaches in US election history. Oh, good job. Good job. I just want to play a 20. Just to show you PBS's way of doing business. I have to play this PBS slant on gun violence that was yesterday or I guess Friday show.

2:20:07 This is typical of PBS and the fact that there are stooges for the Democrats. Listen to this. Gun violence and crime in America are both key issues in the 2024 campaign. As part of our ongoing series about election year issues, our Lisa Desjardins has looked into where the candidates stand. And she joins us now. It's great to have you here, Lisa. So let's start with former President Donald Trump. He talks often about crime despite his own felony convictions. What kind of reporting is that, dipshit? Wow, Lisa changed her voice. She's still around. Lisa Desjardins is still around. Oh yeah, she takes the anchor job every so often. Because I remember she was sick, so I guess she's better. I'm happy to hear that. I always kind of liked her until she went all nutty. She went a little wacky there for a while. You remember? Well, she's... Yeah, she went wacky. I think around the time that Snowden came out and she was...

2:21:07 You're talking about the same girl, Lisa Desjardins, the one... She's got a big nose. Yes. Remarkable. I think we're talking... Are we talking about someone else? Didn't she work at Wired for a while? No, no. No, she's always been a PBS girl. Hmm. Okay, I'm thinking of someone else then. Who was the... Oh, I think you're talking about Desjard... Zenny. Zenny. That's who I'm thinking of. Yeah, Zenny. Zenny Desjardins. She did go kind of nutty. Yeah. Yeah, no, Lisa DeJardin is a petite presenter on PBS NewsHour. Not to be left out of the election night shenanigans, Amazon Prime will be doing live coverage.

2:21:54 Since who has network who has networked why? Who has networked hell Michaels doing it? Ah guess again if you were to choose the most trustworthy name in news and you wanted them to host your election night coverage on Amazon Prime Who would you choose? Okay, so it's got to be somebody that's not working for the networks because it's a conflict of interest. Not anymore. I'll give you a hint. He's, he, two hints, he is no longer working for the networks. Yes, that would be right. So you got to say he, so it could be, uh, what's his name? The guy used to be the anchor in NBC. Come on, come on. You're close. You're close. I think you might have it.

2:22:35 I think I do have it. I just for some reason his name is eluding me. No that doesn't count. But I've... It counts for me. I can think of his name if I think hard enough. Doesn't count. We're sorry. Brian Williams. Yes, exactly. That's exactly who I was thinking of. Brian Williams. Who's the worst for this sort of thing? Isn't that great? Poor guy. He actually would have been worse would be lower. Oh, Matt Lauer. When does he get to come back? There's going to be a moment where he's going to make a comeback. There's going to be a moment. He's going to have to because he's getting, you know, he's running out of money. He's going to run out of money. You know, he got a golden parachute. There's no doubt about that. So he's, he's living off of his, you know, what's left.

2:23:28 But guys like that, they're always going to spend at the limit, so he can't go on forever. Yeah. I wonder how much must it suck to be him? I mean, really. Yeah, with the locking doors and the rape room. Yeah, all of that. Tina still talks about him. I used to watch the Today Show and I would love watching, what's his name? Matt Lauer. He said, I love that. And then I found out he had a rate button under his desk. So it's going to take him a little bit longer, but he has to make a re-entree eventually.

2:24:15 I have a couple... I just want to mention one thing before you get to your three more clips. There's three TikTok clips, so that's a warning in advance. Yes. The constitutional lawyer, Rob, he's been doing a lot. He's been doing some good work. I'm not even going to get to some of the work he's done for us today. But one of his buddies from law school, I think, Houston lawyer Tony Busby, who he says is a hard-ass lawyer. is now set to represent over 50 clients. Yes, I heard this. In a new Diddy lawsuit, which apparently includes some who are minors. Yeah, there's been a lot of hinting about minors. Yeah, well, we have an inside track, so whenever there's something going on with the buzz, the Busby, hopefully we'll hear a little bit from our constitutional lawyer.

2:25:12 Do we have the best producers in the universe or what? It's embarrassingly... It's embarrassing riches... What's the embarrassment of riches? Yes, it is. It's an embarrassment of riches. Nobody else has this. No. Talk. TikTok. All right. Here we go. John has TikTok clips. Now this one, this is a woman who brought this clip and she narrates it and I thought this clip was kind of oddly, it was odd and offensive and it hasn't been going around. It's about Kwanzaa and Kamala.

2:25:49 I unearthed quite the gem. Growing up Kwanzaa was always a special time. We came together with generations of friends and family and neighbors. There were never enough chairs, so my sister and I and the other children would often sit on the floor and together we lit the candles of the Kanara. And then the elders would talk about how Kwanzaa is a time to celebrate culture, community and family. And they of course taught us about the seven principles. My favorite principle was always the second, Kujichagulia, self-determination. And it is a deeply American principle, one that guides me every day as vice president. To everyone celebrating, we hope your week is filled with love and light.

2:26:37 From our family to yours, happy Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa was invented in 1966. She was born in 1964. Her family did not celebrate Kwanzaa. I mean the guy that invented it was a communist so maybe... How it's good to hear that again even without the tick tockers commentary what a phony and was that Doug was that Doug? Yeah, I was Doug the Jew that happy Kwanzaa y'all happy Kwanzaa. Wait, please I mean what a liar Yeah, yeah, yeah, I found that to be offensive. Yes And you're not even black. I'm not even black and I'm not a Jew no I

2:27:22 that we know of. Here is the... I don't know if this guy's serious. It's one of those TikTokers that you go, is this guy full of crap? Because do we really want to call babies, they-bies? Everyone, I just wanted to talk today about ways we can use words to make... This is a guy? Yes, this is a guy. Hello everyone. Hi everyone. People feel included in the conversation. One of the words I see thrown around a lot that can make people feel left out is the word mother.

2:28:00 It's better if we use the term birthing people. There are a lot of people that can give birth that aren't traditional mothers. That includes trans men. Another word that I see just tossed around is babies. It's much better if you use a gender non-specific term for children that young until they can decide what their gender is and pick it for themselves. So it's much better if you can use the term babies. That allows them to have autonomy and it allows them to choose their gender instead of just assigning it to them at birth. Another term that I see used a lot is cervix or womb or uterus.

2:28:50 It's much better if you use a more general term like reproductive organs. So these are just some really small changes that we can make in our vernacular that helps people feel more included in the conversation and not left out. And it just goes a long way. So anyways, try making those changes and let me know how it goes. Now, do you ever comment on these videos? Because I have a comment since I don't have an account. Isn't the term baby gender neutral by itself? It's a baby. This brings me to a story. Yes, it is.

2:29:31 It's totally neutral. So in this situation that we're moaning and groaning and bitching about goes back, and in this case this will go back to, this story goes back to about 1982, which is what? 40 years ago? Oh, don't remind me. So back then there was a I was doing a story for I guess this story actually goes back to 1986 because that is the year I was visiting Boeing and One of the Boeing guys used to write hold on a second. You can't just do that Can't do what you can't just launch into a story without you jingle

2:30:21 Yeah! And it sounds like a story I've never heard. I have told this story before on the show, but it was probably 10 years ago. So I'm doing it. This guy, one of the engineers there who was showing us at the time Boeing calc also got a tour of the Everett facility of the factory and got to see some planes being made. Boeing calc? Boeing calc was an original spreadsheet program that was quite good. Like VisiCalc? It was like more, yes, it was like VisiCalc. And it was quite good, it came out before Microsoft took over the place, but it was a good product and it was used internally. And so it was actually a commercial product for a year or two. And in the process, the guy was telling me that he used to write for Mac, I'm sorry, PC World, which was the competitor to PC Magazine. And he said that he had turned in some copy

2:31:24 where he said, he mentioned specifically, instead of using congressman or congresswoman, he used state representative. And the copy editor came back at him and says, no, no, no, you can't do that. It has to be, it has to be, Or it was a congressperson. He said it has to be a congressperson. He says, why a congressperson? He said, and the copy editor, who's a woman, said we only use gender-neutral terms at the magazine. As if representative isn't gender-neutral. Exactly what he said. He said to her,

2:32:08 How is representative not gender-neutral? And she said to him, and I think this is reflected in the clip I just played, 40 years later, she said to him, yes, it's true, but we want to make it known to the reader that we're using gender-neutral terms, so we used person. Congress person instead of representative. So it's a form of virtue signaling, it's a form of code. So you say, look, I'm on your side, I am this person, I'm a Democrat, is what it amounts to. So you have to write, you might as well put I'm a Democrat right at the beginning, because that's what you're doing when you can't use the word representative, you have to use Congress person.

2:33:00 I was I've been offended by that for ever since I'm glad you got it off your chest. I don't recall this story Yeah, well, I'll probably tell it again ten years from now. I don't think so We have four more years not ten by the way Thank you everybody for reminding me and correcting me that we are in our fifth election cycle on the show not fourth fifth we've had five and Wait, am I saying that right now? Hold on. I don't know. Yeah, hold on. I got it from, here we go. Obama McCain, 2008. Yes. Obama Romney, 2012. Trump Clinton, 2016. Trump Biden, 2020. And we're now in the fifth, Trump Biden Harris, 2024. This is our fifth trip around the election cycle. Yes, that's why we know so much.

2:33:53 About babies. And that's why people come here to hear about babies from TikTokers. All right, let's do your last one just to offend me some more. No, this one is not as good as the other two, but I thought it was interesting, it's educational. A food activist who's very famous and somebody put a bunch of her TikTok stuff together to tell her messages that American corporations are poisoning, what I believe this is somewhat true, poisoning the American public, thank you very much. Oh, for sure. In the US there's 11 ingredients, in the UK there's three, and salt is optional. An ingredient called dimethylpolysiloxane is an ingredient preserved with formaldehyde, a neurotoxin. This is Skittles. Notice the long list of ingredient differences. 10 artificial dyes in the US version, and titanium dioxide. This ingredient is banned in Europe because it can cause DNA damage.

2:34:50 Artificial dyes are made from petroleum and products containing these dyes require a warning label in Europe. And they have been linked to cancer and disruptions in the immune system. This on the screen back here is Gatorade. In the US, they use Red 40 and Caramel Color. In Germany, they don't. They use carrot and sweet potatoes to color their Gatorade. This is Doritos. The US version has three different artificial dyes and MSG. The UK version does not. General Mills is definitely playing some tricks on us. They launched a new version of Trix just recently in Australia. It has no dyes. They even advertised that when the US version still does. This is why I became a food activist. My name is Vani Hari, and I only want one thing.

2:35:40 I want Americans to be treated the same way as citizens in other countries by our own American companies. Yeah, this was from the Ron Johnson hearing that your buddy Jillian Michaels appeared at. The beginning of it starts off with the 11 ingredients versus the three. And that was about McDonald's french fries. It's disgusting. It's a really good hearing. People should take a look at it. Because that will save your life just by not eating this junk. But all of it is just like advertising gambling.

2:36:16 as we started the show today. If you walk in the supermarket, it's just like a cartoon. Like, all kinds of colors that attract the children. Mommy, mommy, mommy, I want this one, mommy! You know? It's nasty. It should be illegal. I don't know why that qualifies as a TikTok clip. That was just a clip that you found on TikTok. I'm sorry. It just came to us right now. Yeah, it was no good. All right. Since you offended me with that, I'm going to offend you with a clip, which is an illegal clip. It's illegal to play this clip. Illegal by show standards. However, I... Oh, it's not Rachel Maddow, is it? No, it's not a felony. It's just... It's a misdemeanor. Although it's close to felony. But the W... John Kerry. Yes. WEF, the World Economic Forum, has a summer session

2:37:17 And this was about the sustainable development goals, so all a part of Climate Week. And this should be anybody who was thinking of voting for, I would just say Kamala Harris, should rethink it because this is the general thinking of the elites in the Democrat Party. And John Kerry is without a doubt one of the elites. He has married into the Heinz fortune. He, you know, he's a douchebag. He's an incredible douchebag. He's a patrician. A patrician with a very big watermelon-sized head. But listen to what he thinks about the First Amendment and the right to say whatever you want to say. And I will precede this clip by saying

2:38:07 The terms misinformation, disinformation, malinformation is all bullcrap. There is information. It's just information. Everything... I'm sure that has a technical term in language. When you put something in front of it, what is that called? A prefix. Is that called a prefix? Yeah. And on top of that, there are no secrets, only information you don't yet have. So it's only information. But this is the kind of thinking that goes on in the upper elitist echelons of the Democrat Party as it is today. The dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing.

2:38:54 And it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact have kind of, you know, been eviscerated to a certain degree. You have to back it up. And when you hear the word referee, replace it in your mind with gatekeeper. Yeah. And by the way, it's so hard to govern these days in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't you know, there's no the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what is in fact, the kind of

2:39:43 been eviscerated to a certain degree. And people go and then people self-select where they go for their news or for their information. And then you just get into a vicious cycle. Yeah, especially podcasts. So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this. There's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're going to have some accountability on facts, et cetera. But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick,

2:40:23 and has an agenda, and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just hammer it out of existence. So what we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully winning enough votes that you're free to be able to to implement change. Now obviously there are some people in our country who are prepared to implement change in other ways. Is that unbelievable or what? You know he, I think he caught himself

2:41:05 And he tried to beat around the bush, because after he talked about the First Amendment being an impediment... Yeah, what a nuisance that thing. It's a nuisance, an impediment. He kind of... it must have went right through his brain. Oh, you dumb shithead, you said the wrong thing here. Now try to get out of it, because he seemed to be fishing after that. Yeah, I saw that too. I just found it. It's embarrassing. I just found it incredible. Incredible. And that's the thinking. You know, this First Amendment is annoying and people... we don't have any more referees. We need referees like Brian Williams. Good referees. All right, have to play this since we do have a

2:41:58 an appearance in our end of show mix is the mayor is back! Yes, yay! Very excited to have the mayor back on the show. Thank you! Thank you, Mayor. Sir Michael Anthony, Mayor Adams. And I have two clips here. The first is a little background, a little update. Sorry, I call him Mark Anthony in the last one. No, it's Sir Michael Anthony. Have a little update here from CBS on the latest with Mayor Adams. It's an unfortunate day. And it's a painful day. New York City Mayor Eric Adams asked New Yorkers to reserve judgment shortly after a federal indictment was unsealed, accusing him of engaging in a long-running conspiracy involving illegal campaign contributions, charges he denies.

2:42:46 and I follow the 10th injunctions. The five count indictment includes charges of bribery, wire fraud, and two charges relating to receiving campaign contributions from foreign nationals. You just sum up. Federal prosecutors say Adams accepted more than $100,000 in luxury travel benefits from Turkish officials in exchange for favors. In one instance, they say Adams pressured the New York City Fire Department to let Turkey open a new diplomatic building here, despite safety concerns. the Turkish official got what he wanted and as we explained in the indictment just four days after Adams held up his end of the bargain he went right back to soliciting more travel benefits from the Turkish airline. This is just one of at least

2:43:30 four federal investigations into Adams or his inner circle. At least three high-ranking city employees have already resigned in recent weeks. This is unprecedented. CBS News legal contributor Caroline Polisi says prosecutors must think they have a strong case to indict the sitting mayor, a first in city history. You have to believe that prosecutors feel that they can not only convict Mayor Adams at trial, but sustain that conviction as well. Adams has vowed to remain in office while he fights the charges. So the show consensus on this, which you reminded of us on the last episode...

2:44:05 is this is entirely because he started complaining about the illegal immigrants, I'm sorry, the newcomers flooding New York City and he went against the Biden-Harris administration. And that this is retaliation. Well, son of a gun, wouldn't you know it? I will say this. I watched about a year ago when he talked about how the illegal migrants are hurting our city and the federal government should pay us and we shouldn't have to take him. And I said, you know what? He'll be indicted within a year. And I was exactly right, because that's what we have. We have

2:44:47 people that use the Justice Department and the FBI at levels that have never been seen before. So I wish him luck. I don't know anything about what he did, but I told a lot of group, a lot of people right over there, that group was saying, you know, sir, you were right about that. When they mentioned that, I said, they came in and he was pretty strong about it. He said, this is really unfair to make us carry this burden. We shouldn't be doing this. This is New York City. I mean, your parks are loaded up. I just passed recently Madison Avenue, the Roosevelt Hotel. It's like nobody would recognize it. That's Midtown. But he came out very strongly against it. He was right, by the way, because it's ruining our country. He was honest.

2:45:33 And I said, he will be indicted within a year. And that's what happened. And I noticed the indictment is very old. It goes back a long time. So I wish him well, but I said that he will be indicted because he did that. You take a look, that's what they do. These are dirty players. These are bad people. They cheat and they do anything necessary. These are bad people. And we need an honest Justice Department. We need an honest FBI and we need it fast. Boom. Deep dive. I have another PBS version of the mayor being indicted. If you want to play it, it's only 33 seconds.

2:46:13 It sums things up a little bit. I think your clips are better, but I want to get this one played anyway. Also today, New York Mayor Eric Adams pleaded not guilty to bribery and other charges in federal court. He's accused of accepting illegal campaign contributions and gifts from Turkish nationals in exchange for using his position to help Turkey's interests. Adams did not speak on his way into the Manhattan courthouse, but flashed a thumbs up to the crowd. His lawyer said he will file a motion next week to request that the charges be dismissed. Adams was released after the hearing. He has said he won't resign and will continue to conduct city business as usual. The Department of Justice, man, they are against the American people.

2:46:56 No matter who you are, they are weaponized. It's true. Well, they have an agenda and if you don't follow it, you're screwed. And part of following it is accepting a bunch of illegal aliens, criminals, and who knows who else into the country and liking it. Did you see Massey grilling the Inspector General Horowitz, who is the Inspector General for the FBI? I don't think I did. So Massey, who's wife just passed away, you know, suddenly, and this guy, I think he already was just like, I'm going to say whatever I think. He's just flat out everywhere now, like, nope, nope. He's going against the Republicans. Yeah, I think he believes his wife was murdered. I wouldn't put it past people. You know, once he went on Tucker Carlson and said a whole bunch of things, all of a sudden she died suddenly.

2:47:52 Horrible. So here he is, this is about January 6th. He's specifically interested in footage of the pipe bomber who put the pipe bomb down at the DNC, which we've seen this footage. I think it's on YouTube. Yeah, you've seen it, right? Oh yeah. But no, no, no, no, no, no. We've got a failed, FBI's failed investigation of the January 6th pipe bomb. Are you looking into that at all? We've had discussion I know congressman about it and we have followed up and I can speak to you about that. I mean they keep saying it's an ongoing investigation but they've got no leads, no suspects, they've lost information, they've lost evidence, they can't find evidence, Secret Service deleted all of its texts on January 6th, Steve D'Antuono the guy in charge Washington DC field office says that the cell phone data that would could have been used to find the bomber was corrupted and now we just found out, I found out,

2:48:57 from another inspector general, and I want to submit this for the record. I asked him, do you have the footage, the video footage, does the FBI have the video footage of the DNC on January 6th? And he tells me when he asked the FBI for the video footage, they don't even have video footage of the DNC that we know was created on January 6th. It's almost as if they don't want to know. Can you rule out that there were any confidential human sources involved in the whole pipe bomb thing on January 6th? I'd have to go back, Congressman, and refresh myself on what we've

2:49:37 information we've gathered to date on that I don't know as I sit here. Okay that would be a huge revelation and I'm happy to come. I think we should get that and get it public before the election I yield back. They deleted text messages because that's what you do. Yeah yeah if you're Hillary Clinton. Against the law to do that but they do it anyway. Yeah. Well I have one last little clip here that might be interesting. This is 13 seconds, it's not much. But this is just because they keep talking about, no, no, you know, they don't want to ban gas stoves. I don't know where you get that from. This is Newsom. Oh, here we go. California's Governor Gavin Newsom has vetoed a bill that would have required tobacco style health warnings on gas stoves. It's a setback for climate and public health advocates to encourage the shift to all electric home appliances.

2:50:38 We have all electric in Washington State in our area. It sucks. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda! All right, everybody, remember we do have John's tip of the day coming up. The mayor returns in our end of show mixes and of course we've got another fantastic show coming up next on the No Agenda stream. But first we need to thank our producers who came in $50 and above and again, thank you to everyone who has a sustaining donation. You can support the show by going to noagendadonations.com. John.

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2:56:51 Ben, Baron of Southern Indiana, and Sir Mike of Axehead Watch is now Sir Mike of the Fair Tax, Liberator of Michigan 10, Baron of Liechtenstein. And we congratulate both of these men for moving up in the peerage list. Now, for our Commodores, we received an email from a 26-year retired Navy Mustang. His name is Matt, and he says, as JCD correctly pointed out, Commodore was the old name for the one-star admirals in the Navy. When officials embark a naval vessel, they are greeted with honors via the 1MC, which is our announcing system. 1MC! A one-star admiral, or Rear Admiral Lower Half, holy moly,

2:57:36 Thought being a rear Admiral was bad, but if you're the rear Admiral lower half, what does that mean? would be announced with six bells, three sets of two. It would sound like ding, ding, and then it does more dings. Commodore arriving! My suggestion would be to do the bosun pipe followed by the bells to announce the new No Agenda Commodores. Alternatively, ruffles and flourishes is also appropriate for more ceremonial occasions. Very respectfully, Matt." So, Uh, let me see. First I will get us set up here as we are about to announce all of our Commodores. We have a number of them today. Apologies to everyone whose dog just freaked out because mine certainly did when I did that. It was insane. Commodore Oil Baron! Commodore Harrison! Commodore Vic-20!

2:58:38 Commodore Sir Becoming Heroic of Unsinkable 2, Commodore Swizzle of the Tiki Realms, Commodore Sir RJ of Grand Point, Commodore Cory Baker, Commodore Stephen Crummy, Commodore Sir Schwartz of Jutland, How's that, John? Well, I liked it better than what you've been doing. I mean, I don't think you need to do the bells more than one round of ding ding ding ding ding ding. Oh, I think that would be fine right at the beginning. I kind of like all the bells, the bell bell. Well, if you want to keep ringing bells, that's fine. I kind of like it. I just,

2:59:32 I think the Boson's pipe could be a little clearer. We have to get a better clip of that. I think it will disturb the dogs. Yeah, let's try it again. There's better examples. Yeah, I'll look for something else. We have a couple of knights to bring up to the podium here. We have a layaway knight, Anonymous Eric, sustaining donations, work people, accounting attached by a layaway knight who since I've never been officially de-douche, please do me the honor. You've been de-douched. And knight me.

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3:02:19 We are two nights in a bottle. That's the mulligus in Landver and Lifsaberg. It's literally two nights on the bottle. Two nights on the bottle representing Nojenga in the morning. Two nights in a bottle works for me. Good work gentlemen, thank you very much for doing that and for sending in the report. Tri-Cities Washington had their very first meetup and hence their very first meetup report. In the morning everybody this is Aaron from Tri-Cities. Just wanted to say that we had a wonderful, successful, first ever Columbia River Basin meetup here in the Tri-Cities. Hope to see some people coming out next time. Looks like we're going to do another meetup in November. Thank you for your courage. Steve from Kennewick here. Washington has the most producers per capita than anywhere in the nation. We did the work. This is Trevor checking in from Moses Lake.

3:03:06 Coming out for the first time, having a good old time with some No Agenda listeners, producers I mean. Looking to have more fun with these guys in the future. Hi, Dame Janice of the Bombing Range. This is so much fun. In the morning. Bye. Bye. In the morning, Adam and John. Teriyogi, Knight of the Carnival Midway is here. Peace out. 50 more dollars and I'll be Sir Silent Ice Cream. Just got to get around to it. We had a lot of cider. See you later. In the morning! I would say a very successful inaugural meetup. These are the things you want to go to to meet your Noah-gendered nation, boys and girls, friends, children from other lands. You may have nothing in common except the show and that's why you will love being there. You will connect and that connection always brings protection.

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3:05:50 Let me hear that again. That was so, so sexy. Alright. How about go home? The show is over now. Go home. I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Yeah, you might like this one. Best. Best podcast ever. We have a winner ladies and gentlemen! Best podcast ever! And now it's time for the famous moment John C's tip of the day! Great advice for you and me, just the tip with JCB. And sometimes Adam. I'm excited. Everybody's excited. We're always all excited to find out about the tip of the day. Well, this is a food tip. A food tip. Ah, this is the best kind of tip. And I thought I'd bring it up because this is something I do. There's a, there's been recently, because the avocados mostly come from California and Mexico. Yeah. But in some parts of the country, in fact, most of the parts, there's a huge boom in Peruvian avocados. Are they no good?

3:06:48 No, they're better than the other ones. And let me explain. A Peruvian avocado, and they come in, it says, you'll see it on the, they always say where their origin, country of origin is. And if you see a pile of Peruvian avocados, what I have to do, the reason for this tip is how do they ripen, how would you tell? They're not like a normal Haas avocado. Most people in California and elsewhere, you can tell how ripe and ready an avocado is by kind of a firmness. Yeah, I grab, I squeeze a little and that kind of gives me the idea if it's ripe or not. Or overripe. Usually I get three avocados. I get one for that dinner that day and then I'll get one for the next day and one for the next day. So I do take firmness into account. Now,

3:07:41 With the Peruvian avocado, the firmness is always harder than a normal avocado. And if you feel softness, it's over the hill. So you say to yourself, well then how the hell would I know this? It's ripe, but how would I tell? I can't tell. Yes, how do I tell, John? The color of the skin of a Peruvian avocado, which is kind of a greenish, like all the red, it looks just like a regular avocado. When it turns solid black and the avocado is still firm, that avocado is ready and it's spectacular. And how do we know it's a Peruvian avocado? It'll say, there's not a store in the world that won't put the country of origin

3:08:24 where it says Mrs. Avocado, 59 cents or whatever, it'll say country of origin, Peru. It'll say there, I think most states require you country of origin. So how about the avocado I want to be ripe in two days when it's from Peru? It'll be black and really- It'll be black with some green spots left. Oh, so it's a color identifier. It's total color. It goes from super green to black splotches to pretty almost all black with a little green to all black. And there's about a two or three day window when it's all black and it's still hard. Boom. Yeah, we prefer avocado of color here on the show. Excellent tip everybody. Hey guys, show us your tips. There we go.

3:09:17 Anyway, yeah, check out the Peruvian avocados if you ever see them. No, I like it. It's good. It's good. Good word And that does it for episode 1699. $1,700 on Thursday everybody. $1,700. We'll send out a newsletter to remind you. $1,700. Everyone should donate and say congratulations boys. And we have Canary Cry News Talk coming up next on the stream. This is 777 Jackpot. Ah, they're into that illegal gambling on the stream these days. Ah, go figure, boys, go figure. End of show mixes. We have Sound Guy Steve, Neil Jones, our clip custodian, and the mayor!

3:10:03 Sir Michael Anthony returns to the end of show mix as we could not be happier. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, we got a meetup on October 18th. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's cold, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday where people are having meetups and we'll be celebrating episode 1700. Remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey! And such. Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in Washington today. This morning, record-breaking heat spreading across more of the U.S. You should know what happens to your body when it exposes itself to extreme heat.

3:10:51 First, your body attempts thermoregulation by moving blood flow outward toward the surface of the skin. The heart rate quickens, blood vessels dilate to release heat, the skin becomes flush, then your body begins to sweat. I've seen how long it takes for you to start sweating because after all, it's not the heat, it's the humidity. If it's really hot, especially if it's hot and humid, these thermoregulation systems that we've developed won't be enough. The heart will continue to beat fast, putting strain on cardiovascular systems. The skin will continue to sweat, depleting your body of water and essential electrolytes.

3:11:27 Many scientists claim that the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years. The truth is the crisis is still getting worse. Excessive sweating will cause an imbalance of fluids and salts in the human system. With rising temperatures, the threat of infectious diseases will increase. It's warmer than I like. Your body's core temperature rises rapidly. Your body reaches the threshold for heat stroke. There is irreversible damage to cells and vital organs. And usually. We love our country. We are an optimistic people.

3:12:34 We are an optimistic people. I love our country. I know we all do. That's why everybody's here right now. We love our country. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. We take pride in the privilege of being American. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. Let's come together. What's up New York City? This is your Mayor, at least for now. As you all already heard, I've been indicted for corruption and bribery. The Feds is trying to take down me and my whole chocolate mafia. All because I said, yo Joe, close the border yo.

3:13:24 Otherwise y'all know I woulda got away with it. Anyway, I got one word for all y'all talking about Step Down. Jumanji. If y'all get rid of me, your interim mayor finna be public advocate Jumanji Williams. Jumanji is straight up socialist. He anti-police. And he wanna be the mayor? So you tell Kathy Hochul. You tell AOC. You tell Jumanji. You stand by Mayor Eric Adams. And if y'all don't got my back, maybe I'll just go MAGA. Somebody please love me.