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00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, September 22nd, 2024. This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media Assassination episode 1697. This is no agenda. Unabashedly analog and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all sick of hearing about deodorant for pits and privates, I'm John C. Dvorak. Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Are you watching broadcast television again?

00:39 Yes, of course. I always monitor it. Oh, man. There's a bunch of disgusting commercials. There's at least three different ones where you have some gruesome people. Yes, including some big fat woman. Oh, and they're putting this stuff all over their bodies and their but in their thighs and talking about pits and privates. It's all body deodorants. Well, when did this happen? Become a trend. How many do these? Modern women stink to high heaven? When's the last time you sniffed a lady? Uh-huh. See, I got you there. Not Joe Biden. Oh, yes. Well, I don't know what's going on with that, but we're just off the rails. Everybody's off the rails. It's amazing. Off the what? Everyone's off the rails. Rails? Yeah, the rails. The guardrails. The rails. Everyone's like, oh, oh no. The culture war economy is in full cycle.

01:37 Oh, Kamala. Oh, Oprah. Oh, Hollywood. Oh, Oprah. Did you see that thing, man? I saw enough of it. I couldn't watch the whole thing. It was interesting because it was... It was just her speech turned into like a... Yes! She says absolutely nothing as usual. She talked about being a middle-class kid and all the whole thing. I have only one clip from it which is the one that they passed around the most. Well, wait. Before we do that, let me just play this 29 seconds of Oprah!

02:15 joining us for this very special event you know Republicans for Harris love that group even more. The Swifties for Kamala! Chris Rock is in the house! Please welcome Kamala Harris! Kamala Harris! She's like a parody of herself. Yes I love that she says Kamala Harris.

02:51 Because she was so... by the way, that's racist. She was so... because you know when you say... that's why people say Kamala Harris because he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he I mean, does that still work? Do people still get all jacked up about that? In the house? Hello 1991, our CEO Hall Show. In the house. John C. Duvorak! In the house! Hey, I'm Adam Curry! In the house! In the hizzy house! Please. And then you push your arms, and then you're pushing that roof off. Yeah, yeah, you pump your fist. That's all that was missing. Pump your fist. Oh man. It was embarrassing, the whole thing.

03:42 The whole thing. Let me just... The celebrities. I mean, if at any point there was a career killer for anyone in Hollywood, it was showing up on this show. I agree. I have lost all respect for those people. Let's see who we have. Come on, let's introduce him. Oprah! I see some faces I recognize. Why can't she talk right? This is crazy. This is not modern. It wasn't television. It was streaming only. There's Bryan Cranston. Hey, Bryan. That's it. No more Breaking Bad for me. Hello, hello, hello.

04:23 Hello, hello! Ryan Grenson! I hear Chris Rock is in the house. Chris, where are you? Chris Rock is in the house. He's black so we say in the house. Ben Stiller, Jennifer Lopez, Tracee Ellis Ross. Who? Who? Oh, J-Lo! What happened to J-Lo? Jennifer Lopez! Tracee Ellis Ross, where are you? Tracee Ellis, where are you on the screen?

05:06 Julia Roberts, where are you? What an overbite! It's unbelievable that overbite! And this narrowed streep is in the house! Narrowed streep! And Diddy in the house! Oh, I'm sorry. Diddy not in... Man! That was just like... Are people still falling for this? I mean... You made your point. Yes, they are. Well, maybe not. I don't think so. You know what's falling for it? It's people who are online who are like, oh man, look what they're doing, man. It's all lies, man. People who disagree with Kamala Harris.

05:53 They're like, oh, it's not real, people. None of this is real. It's a show. It's a show. And it's a dumb show. None of this. It's so phony, so fake, so obvious. All right, you want to play your clip? I only have the one. Oh, what you got? It's the universal answer she gives to everything. We take pride in the privilege of being American. And this is a moment where we can and must come together as Americans, understanding we have so much more in common than what separates us. Let's come together. Come together! The character that we are so proud of about who we are, which is we are an optimistic people. Wait, wait, what? We are an optimistic people. We are! Americans by character are people who have

06:51 Dreams and ambitions and aspirations. We believe in what is possible. But the rent's too high, Kamala! We believe in what can be. And we believe in fighting for that. Whoa, she left out their best part. What? Unburdened by what has been. Unburdened by what has been, yes. That's a flub. She flubbed her line. That's how we came into being. Because the people before us understood that one of the greatest expressions for the love of our country, one of the greatest expressions of patriotism,

07:29 Is to fight for the ideals of who we are which includes freedom to make decisions about your own body freedom To be safe from gun violence freedom to have access to the ballot box Freedom to be who you are and just be to love who you love openly and with pride freedom to just be America will never, never elect her president. Ever. No, but they can rig it. No, they're not even going to be able to rig it. No, no, no. So there was an interesting, I didn't get this clip, but there was a, they had on, I think it was one of the, uh, uh, Acosta or Costa, whatever his name is.

08:16 on CNN had her assistant on because she talked about having a gun and shooting some guy in her house. Yeah. And they brought the assistant on because she did say, Kamala said, well, my my my staff will take care of whatever I said later. Yeah. And she comes on the show and says she didn't have a gun. What? You didn't get that clip? No, it came in late. It was like it was on some No. I can get it if you really want to hear it. No, I can assure you that's what his assistant said. Camilla has no gun, which I believe. Cammy's got no gun. I can already see in the troll room, Adam has more faith in the American people than I do right now. Get off of the internet, bro.

09:02 Get off of the internet! That's a chat... troll guy? Yeah, troll guy. It's a troll guy. Which one? What's his name? Give him names. He's already scrolled by. Guess what? 5662. No, it's troll. It's troll72945. This was my favorite piece because here you have 1980s, 1990s celebrities Yeah, bring in some reality people. Bring in someone from... Survivor or a bat? What is it the what's the I love island? That's who people today want to see bring in some love Island celebrities now now we got Meryl Streep, and this was hilarious I wanted to ask you I Can't believe I have this opportunity. Oh, I'm so I can't believe I'm talking to Kamala Harris Probably never will again never again. That's right. That's correct. Oh

09:59 That's probably true. You nailed it Meryl Streep. I probably never will again. I have a little Debbie Downer moment because actually I think you're going to win. I'm sure you're going to win. But what happens when you win? I'm worried about it and I wonder if we're ready for January 7th. 8 to 9 to 10. What happens? What happens? So we will be ready, but just taking a step back and thank you, Marilyn, for your just the gift. Thank you, Marilyn. Thank you, Marilyn. Marilyn. Yes, that's why I played the clip. Thank you, Marilyn, for your answer. Hello. That's how out of touch are you?

10:54 Thank you, Marilyn. Wow, I did I miss that. Yeah. Yeah, she said Marilyn to Meryl Streep what happens? So we will be ready but just taking a step back and thank you Marilyn for your just the gift that you get and Streep is just looking like what did I sign up for? What did I do? What did I do? Well, the only question that mattered was this one and she gave the same wrong answer. We really would love to know what your plan is to help lower the cost of living. Yeah, first of all, thank you both for being here. Thank you, Meryl.

11:39 A story I hear around the country as I travel. Hey, stop! It's not a story, lady. It's a question. It's not a story. It's not a story. It's a question. A story I hear around the country as I travel. And in terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams. I'm peeing my pants. This is so good. This is yeah, this is the other clip. I would have got it's the best rightly Having the right to have aspirations and dreams I rightly am having the right to have aspirations and dreams BAM nailed it and ambitions for your family and

12:28 working hard and finding that the American dream is for this generation and so many recently far more elusive than it's been. And we need to deal with that. And there are a number of ways. One is bringing down the cost of everyday necessities including groceries. That's right! I'm gonna bring down the cost. I'm gonna wave my wand and pooh! We're gonna make it so I'm your fairy godmother. Please. Let's just listen to how the media played this. Let's go overseas for a moment to France, France 24. Please welcome Kamala Harris.

13:06 It wasn't technically a campaign rally, but it may as well have been. Kamala Harris was welcomed with open arms by superstar host Oprah Winfrey in front of hundreds of thousands of live streamers and a studio audience in Michigan, one of the seven crucial battleground states that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you. Why does Oprah talk like this? Something happened to you. She's not from Africa. I think it's the Ozempic has affected her speech. So battleground states that will decide the election. It seems to us that something happened to you. Where's Oprah? Isn't Oprah from Louisiana? She's from Ghana. The moment

13:53 President Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy. That a veil or something dropped. Oh yes, oh it dropped already. And you just stepped into your power. And then next week I saw you walking in the thing. What happened to you? You know, we each have those moments in our lives where it's time to step up. It's time to step up. That's right. From Jennifer Lopez, Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts to Chris Rock and Ben Stiller. The Unite for America event was marked by celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris. Beamed in? Did she say beamed in? Did they beam in? They beamed in remotely. The Unite for America event was marked by celebrities who beamed in remotely to endorse Harris. And this pitch to gun owners from the Democratic candidates. I'm a gun owner too. I do not know that.

14:53 How do you think that plays? How do you think that plays in general with the Kamala Harris audience? Oh, she's badass, man. She's gonna shoot me. What? What? I'm confused. I have no idea. It's beyond me why she'd even... why that was a talking point of hers. It wasn't a talking point. It was a complete misser. It was wrong. You don't say that. It's odd. Let's listen to ABC's version. Vice President Kamala Harris touching down in Battleground, Michigan. Hoping to harness the star power of one of her most influential supporters, Oprah Winfrey. Together, let's all choose Kamala Harris! Oh, nice you did it right. Uh, yeah, hi, this is Oprah. Could you do me a favor and not put the Harris bit in, but do it where I corrected it and said it right and said, you know, could you put that in your package and take out the Harris? Kamala Harris!

16:23 Was that supposed to be from the same event? It's the same event, yeah. And they swapped out the intro to Harris? Sounds like it to me. Interesting, huh? Wrong, wrong, wrong. Unaffiliated, big difference. Oh, you undecideds! You know this is true. You know I'm telling you the truth. That values and character matter most all. No. No. People want... The rent's too high, Oprah. That's what people want. The rent to come down.

17:29 And all they hear from Trump is, drill, I'm going to lower the cost of energy. That lowers the cost of anything. Almost everybody understands that message. And I truly think this was the death knell for the Harris campaign. But that didn't stop her from going to the battleground states and code switching again. With the presidential election less than two months away, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump continue to ramp up their campaigns. This afternoon, Harris spoke in Atlanta about reproductive rights while slamming Republicans. And these hypocrites! No, no, it's a mistake. It's a mistake.

18:29 I don't think America would have been ready for her regardless, but America is a... We want a daddy. We don't want a mommy. That's what we want. She's not a mommy. No. Well, she's trying to be a... She's trying to be mama-la. Mama-la. Mama-la. Mama-la. So, no, I'm not too worried. Not too well. Yeah, well, it's gotten no, no, no, it's gotten even better. No, it's still doable. But you know, they're trying to do this has been brought up in the number of on the right wing. They're trying to flip New York because it makes all these swing states irrelevant. Because who cares about this and that if you get New York? Yeah, this is the biggest show on earth and it's playing out as such.

19:16 And it's just amazing. It's enjoyable. Oh, it's us because we step back and we go, what a dumb show. It stinks. Turn on Love Island. Come on, let's get something good. But at least we're not Diddy. Hate to say it, but we called it. Now to the latest in the arrest of rap mogul Sean Diddy Combs, who is being held without bail in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center while he awaits trial. According to NBC News' Chloe Millas, Diddy has been placed under a suicide watch. and she joins us now in studio with more details. Chloe, walk us through your latest reporting. What do we know right now? So we know from a source close to the situation that yes, he is under suicide watch, Alison, but this is a precautionary measure because he is a high profile inmate. But just moments ago, we were just received a statement from Combs'

20:06 team and they say that he is strong, healthy and he's focused on his defense. He is committed to fighting this case and has full confidence in both his legal team and the truth. And look, he could be behind bars for up to a year. That's how long it could take for this to finally get to trial. He offered to give himself up, but now he's on suicide watch. Did he say he probably expected to get bail? But, uh, they, I don't understand what the point of all this is because they've grabbed all the blackmail material. Yeah. And so they now have it. They have one loose end. Yeah, but he doesn't, unless he has a, it's one of those, you know, kill switch where he can, where the blackmail materials been online and now it could be released to the dark web. He can just talk all he wants. Doesn't mean anything. The dark web?

20:59 Yeah, the dark, or the darkest web. Say it ain't so, the dark web, oh no! Anyway... So I don't know what... The blackmail material has been transferred to the blackmailers, so... Which by the way, brings up, we don't have the clip of it, but when Howard Stern goes off... Do you think that maybe he was compromised at some point and he now has to... No. He doesn't even want to shake someone's hand. That's true. He's a germaphobe. Which makes you think he'd be... Before we get too far away from the election, I do have a... Oh, no. I had one more... Okay, forget the other Diddy clip. He's being moved to another prison, which is where it always happens.

21:44 You see. Well, as long as they have the cameras on. Yeah, no, the cameras will malfunction, the guards will be asleep, he did not kill himself. It's so obvious. And at 15 years, you know... At this point, they're not going to be able to pull this off. They're not going to do that. He's not going to get killed. Okay. You can write in the book. All right. You have the book. I don't have the book. I have the book. You have the book. I want to play these two clips about the election because it has to, it's got the kind of subtle propaganda that only NPR and PBS produce. And this is a look back at a movie called The Election.

22:26 Hmm. I don't remember this movie. I don't remember it either, but I guess it was a big hit it had Reese Witherspoon playing some young whore the student who was running for some officer other and and it was very reflective of Hillary's campaign, I guess this movie came out in 2015, 2016. I kind of remember this, yeah. And somebody once, I think, asked her, do you want to play Hillary Clinton in a biopic? She says, no, I already have, referring to this movie. And so I just had two clips from it. And because there is a WTF moment in the second clip, let's play the intro. I know a lot of you were thinking about the presidential election. But as we continue our series, looking back at some of the notable films of 1999, this weekend, we wanted to focus on a different look at the democratic process.

23:18 Alexander Payne's film Election. You see, I believe in the voters. They understand that elections aren't just popularity contests. Wow, she even has the Hillary Cadence. That's kind of interesting. Yeah, this is from 99. Yeah, that's good. This country was built by people just like me who work very hard and don't have everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Those are the words of high school overachiever Tracy Flick, played in a breakthrough performance by Reese Witherspoon. Since Payne's satire first hit theaters, Tracy has become an archetype of female ambition as well as a litmus test for how our society views ambitious women and how that has changed over time since the movie first came out. As viewed by her teacher, played by Matthew Broderick, Tracy is a threat. Who knew how high she would climb in life? How many people would suffer because of her?

24:09 I had to stop her. point something minute clips over a 15 minute analysis. They brought some woman in from Vox Media who's some critic and she's a brags about being a journalist and when you listen to some of the things she says you wonder what kind of a journalist she is but they go back and forth about how this was a big deal during Clinton's run because they didn't you know it was they was reflected in this character in the movie and

24:48 Yeah, but now it's changed this change so much. Oh and nobody you know it's like you know and they and they mentioned that the movie's not brought up anymore and Kamala is a different person and it all it's great now and things the society's changed enormously and blah blah blah But there's a little gotcha in this clip that I think you'll spot I have not seen any overt Tracy Flick references that much in this moment where Kamala Harris is running to be the first woman president. Have you seen it at all? Do you think it's not as relevant this time around? Do you think Things have changed enough or am I just not looking in the right corners of the internet? I have also not seen very many Tracy flick references, but it comes to Kamala Harris Where I think that election can be helpful when thinking about Kamala Harris is the way that Mr. M the antagonist against Tracy

25:45 ends up using her sexuality to humiliate her as punishment for her running for office. Right, he is constantly threatening to reveal the relationship she had with her teacher. He has a lot of very sexual fantasies about her that are sort of about him establishing his masculinity over her. And what we've seen with Kamala Harris is that consistently figures on the right, starting with Donald Trump, They have made the false claim that she started her political career because of a relationship she had with Willie Brown in the 1990s. He was the former mayor of San Francisco. It's false. It's false. Without evidence. Oh, we've got a lot of evidence. False claim. And starting with Donald Trump, starting bull crap with Donald Trump. This is California lore.

26:35 since Willie Brown was around years before Donald Trump even showed up on the scene. How does it start with Donald Trump? He's never even mentioned it that I know of. Here's your clue. Vox Media. Hello. It's unbelievable how they get away and then they let this slip. This is your NPR national treasure. Let it slip. False. She uses the word false. It's not false. It's been well documented. There's pictures of her with this guy. And with Diddy. Yeah, yeah, in the same nightgown when she was with, nightgown outfit when she was with Montel Williams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. False. False. False. Just because a woman is sexy and hangs out with celebrities doesn't mean she's loose, John. Doesn't mean she's a whore. Oh, dude.

27:26 No, it doesn't mean she's a whore. I'm just using the phrase. Well, prostitutes use a better phrase. You know, there's a difference between a whore and a prostitute. Oh, please do explain. Please. I think one gets the money up front. John, I think they all want it up front. I don't think there's any difference with the money up front between the two. But, you know, this is what... So yesterday, Tina and I went to see Am I Racist in the movie theater, which I didn't even know. Yes, it's Matt Walsh. They put that in the theaters? Well, remember that the whole idea of Jeremy Boring was he wants he's a frustrated movie producer. So, you know, they had that first thing about the basketball team, kind of that.

28:19 I think they streamed that online. I'm not sure. It was supposed to be a comedy and it didn't really go anywhere. But they want to be a movie production company. By the way, the movie has done almost $5 million in two weeks and they expect it to go over 10, which would be triple its production budget. So, chapeau bas, that's pretty good. So I didn't know that this was in theaters only, because I thought I had seen pieces of it. It turns out that I guess they had maybe... Yeah, so... I think I thought it was online somewhere. There were pieces of it. There were pieces of it.

29:00 But what was genius about this is he, in essence, it's satirical, but he dresses up and with a man bun and everything. And then he goes around and tries to understand if he's racist. I remember seeing pieces of it with this man bun. Yeah. And which was kind of good pre-promotion. Now the movie theater was not full. We went to San Antonio's, you know, maybe it's 25 people. It wasn't. You went to San Antonio? Yeah, just before the other Lacunterras, which is I'd say it's about an hour from our house. So it's outside of San Antonio. It's a big movieplex. It's good. We like that place because they got reclining seats. There's nothing in Fredericksburg. There's not a film theater in there. We had a movie theater in Fredericksburg. It's been closed for four years and now it's an encampment for illegal. I'm sorry, irregular migrants. Not kidding. They're in the theater. No, no. They're camping out behind it.

29:59 Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. But that's terrible, you have to drive an hour to go to see a movie. Well, we make an afternoon of it. They got pretzels. So, the premise of the movie is really… I mean, the thing was made, it's not high-budget production. But it translated well to the screen. And so what Walsh is doing is he goes to all of these consultants and experts in DEI to find out if he's racist. And he goes to like a round, you know, like a discussion group where this black woman... Yeah, that's the one where he got kicked out of. Yes, just sits there and berates everyone for being racist. But what they do is they put on the screen how much each person makes.

30:48 That woman was making $30,000 for this one class. But the best is he interviews Robin DiAngelo. You remember her? Oh yeah, the woman who's the white fragility gal. So they paid her $15,000. They put it on the screen. Bing! $15,000. And of course, once you get 15 grand, you sit down, please sign the waiver. Okay, yeah, I'm good. So there's no way that they could take it out. And it is the funniest bit where he is just trolling her right down to what is mansplaining? And she says, well, mansplaining is when a man is telling a woman how his situation really is because she's wrong. And he says, no, no, no, I think man... And he goes in, he literally mansplains her about mansplaining and she doesn't even know it.

31:36 Then he brings out a black guy and he says, you know, I feel like I should pay you reparations right now. And he gives him so much. This was the latest batch of teasers that he sent out were these reparation gags. It's great. And so he hands the guy a you know, some cash and D'Angelo's like, well that's just the oddest thing I've ever seen. That's really strange. He said, why? I mean, you know, reparations. I mean, if it doesn't start with me, then how do we do it? And she says, you know, I can give him some cash. She goes to her pocketbook, comes back, hands him some cash, and on screen they take the $15,000. In Qing, they lower it to $14,970 because she only had 30 bucks. It made everyone look ridiculous. Meanwhile, he goes to a biker bar, finds a whole bunch of white bikers. They're like, we're not racist.

32:35 You know, you can tell that they're not racist just from how they're speaking. He finds a couple of black dudes like, no, no, I don't care. And it was really good because you can see how these grifters have just psyoped the whole society because Americans are fundamentally nice. We don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. And we've been taken advantage of, but these a-holes, It's pretty good. It really is a good movie review. No, thank you. It was quite quite entertaining. I encourage everyone to go go see it and I'm amazed that they got it into theaters. I don't even know how you do that. Seems like that's the hardest part is getting the distribution, you know, Saturday afternoon. Some guy who is a Republican who happens to be a distributor who wink wink nudge and nudge decided to roll it out for him as a favor.

33:31 Anyway, we don't have to worry about any more misinformation, disinformation, particularly not online, because we now have health. help from technology. Meet debunk bot powered by open AI and created by researchers at MIT Cornell and American who say it can help reduce people's beliefs in conspiracies significantly So let's go in that direction because we tried it out with one of the brains behind the bot Thomas Costello with a conspiracy that decades of debunking hasn't eradicated I Believe the moon landing is

34:29 Not real I don't believe that I don't actually believe that the bot asks us to elaborate on the belief and why is the flag waving? Yeah, and to rate how strongly we feel about it. I'm gonna say 99% true then in a series of screens the chatbot presents facts Lots of them. How can you be sure that what's telling me here is accurate? So absolutely we found that it tends to be quite accurate. We hired a professional fact-checker checker to go through some of the conversations and in 99.2% of cases that we looked at the fact checker rate is true. Yeah, the fact checker, the fact checker said no, it's all good. It's perfect. It works so well and

35:10 It's not only safe, but it's effective. At the end, we reassess how strongly we feel about the belief now. And it's here where researchers found something that surprised them. Yeah. On average, people reduced their belief by about 20%. And consistent across a wide range of conspiracies on topics from Princess Diana to vaccinations, they found one in four participants disavowed the belief altogether. The other three keeled over, died suddenly. I think if you gave the facts to a semi-competent lawyer, the lawyer would make it a much more persuasive case than the AI does. It's just that the lawyer would have to do all this background research and the AI can conjure it up in 12 seconds.

35:52 But in reality, getting folks to engage at all could be tough. What makes you think that somebody who believes in a conspiracy theory is going to go on here and type it in so that their minds can be changed? I would say that a lot of conspiracy theorists end up being motivated by truth and accuracy. Going to a chatbot interface that provides factual information seems like a good way to do that to me. Like most technology, it can cut both ways. You could imagine a version of this that spreads conspiracy theories. The Debunkbot team now working on refining the tech, hoping it helps shine a light down conspiratorial rabbit holes. We can use facts to open up the top of the rabbit hole to begin to crawl out.

36:33 A belief worth further research. Open up the top of the rabbit hole? Yeah, well... That doesn't make the hole any less deep. The whole thing is bullcrap because if you go... Oh, it is total bullcrap. Well, here's what it really is. If you go to debunkbot.com, before you start, you have to agree to the terms of service. And they state quite clearly, this survey is part of an MIT scientific research project. Your decision to complete this survey is voluntary. So, you know, they're basically doing research on you. Oh, it's a good cheap trick. Yes, it is. So it's not really... it's intended. No, it's a cheap trick. Yes, cheap trick. You're right. Let's use that right. Well, if you're going to talk about AI, I do have two more clips. But if you're going to open the AI hole, I'm diving in deep.

37:35 Well, first of all, ever since Gavin Newsom made it illegal, he's been... you know, you can't scorn a a coder, especially if they have a sense of humor. And so let's listen to the latest clip from Gavin Newsom. This will be A.I. Newsom pee time. Pee time? Good evening, California. I come to you tonight to impart a few words of wisdom upon you. First, not all pee pee times are poo poo times, but all poo poo times are pee pee times. Second, anything can be a dildo if you try hard enough. And lastly, the poop map is real and it's spectacular.

38:15 I hadn't heard that one yet. That's great. I've seen the memes of him going, I can't believe that my law actually made everybody do AI ripoffs of me. Yeah, okay, Gavin. So whoever has his voice, I think they nailed it. That's exactly what he sounds like. In California here, we've heard him enough. They're not quite as good with some of the other ones and I have a second clip, but this is Hillary on CNN. Oh, yeah, this is very good. This is not as good because they've got to do something about slowing her down. This AI is not

38:54 Up to par, but at least they're going in the right direction I think Newsom's the one that's gonna take the brunt of this because it's his voice is so good But let's listen to Hillary. So your husband flies to Epstein Island 27 times then they arrest Jeffrey Epstein and then you kill him just like that You bribe the guards you turn off the cameras and then you choke him to death Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? So how are you planning on doing it? Well, I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized Puffy might actually enjoy that. So, you know, maybe he slips on the shower, maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. Racist and sexist. Nice. Yes. He's got the chicken gag in there. Oh man. This is what I mean. We're basically at dead internet now.

39:45 Nothing is yes, we that's why we are unabashedly analog the only thing left that you will have online Will be us everything aids everything else is questionable at best You can't believe anything anymore, which is great for us. Yeah, it's fabulous. What else? It's the epoch of humor. Yes, go out and touch some grass. If you get confused and you get all spun up, go rub your face on the concrete. Do something. Because the internet is no longer a place for sane human beings.

40:26 What do you have here? You got two more clips. I have two more AI clips. This is these aren't the deep fakes or fakes not deep although the Gavin one had him talking and moving around it was it was a video. It's pretty good. This is a guy this is a guy about an ex-navy guy and by the way an ex-navy guy named Well, you'll get his name and it's just that I don't know if this is a real name, but he's pushing the idea of AI warfare being the new thing. Oh yeah, on Wall Street maybe.

41:08 Okay, artificial intelligence is shaping the future of warfare and the US is lacking way behind That is the view of Admiral Gary Roughead who recently wrote about this in the military times Admiral Roughead is a former Navy officer on a survey for a second a Navy guy named a rough head. Yeah I don't know this guy sounds like he has a stake in some Wall Street AI. Oh you think yeah, I That is the view of Admiral Gary Roughead, who recently wrote about this in the Military Times. Admiral Roughead is a former Navy officer who served... Admiral Roughead meet Rear Admiral Kirby. ...as the Chief of Naval Operations and commanded both the U.S. Atlantic and Pacific fleets, and he argues that China is rapidly building their AI military technology. Oh yeah. The U.S. needs to catch up.

41:54 Welcome to all things considered. Oh yeah, all things considered, especially crazy stories. Okay, how is a how is how is China going to beat us with their AI? I can't wait. Is it in the second clip? Oh, there's a bit. You know, I said it's shaping the future of warfare, but is that accurate? Is it more the present of warfare when it comes to artificial intelligence? Well, I think we're in the early stages and beginning to shape it. But I think we're just at the front end of what is going to be a pretty significant change in warfare and even more broadly in so many different sectors of our daily lives.

42:33 This is a theoretical conversation, and I'm hoping you can help Listeners understand what exactly me now. It's the theoretical conversation when he's talking this is a theoretical conversation And I'm hoping you can help listeners understand what exactly we're talking about people think about tanks and jets and artillery and missiles when it comes to war How does AI fit into all of that? What what are we specifically talking about here? I? What I would say AI is going to give us the speed that the likes of which we've never seen before in how we move information, how we analyze information, how we make decisions, how we determine what the best options might be in a particular situation and to be able to do it in ways that the human mind simply can't approach. Oh, like a spreadsheet calculation? I mean, tell you.

43:30 What is this non reminds me do you remember when we when they the cyber security guys all of a sudden all these ex-military guys come on to the NPR? Oh, yeah cyber security. We're starting a new company. There's all the same thing. You're just bilking the government's skip logic. Yes well This is, you know, I don't just sit here like a Luddite and say AI is a scam. Yes, you do. No, I'm not a Luddite because I investigate things and I talk to people. And Luddites weren't dumb. No, but they would, they, okay. I think a lot of them investigate and they didn't like what they saw and they decided to bust it up. Okay. Then I am, you're right. I'm a Luddite. I'm an AI Luddite. I don't think there's anything, it's not shameful. Okay. Well, thank you. Then I misunderstood it.

44:22 I am a Luddite and proud of it. I want bumper stickers. I want t-shirts. I want the whole nine. So I tried out Notebook LM. Oh good. Everybody's talking about notebook LM. Oh they're talking about it. Notebook LM, it's the best thing. You add your sources and then it gives you summaries and bullet points. And to be fair, it does. But what's interesting, because I got very interested in the topic of entropy. I was talking to Dave Jones, Dave Jones is a technologist through and through. He is the man who really has done all the coding work for Podcasting 2.0 for the index. And he says, well, oh, can I interrupt you? Of course. I and I just want to get I'm going to do some mind reading. You're

45:15 interested in entropy because you start you're starting to see or you have always seen the deterioration of podcasting And you're worried about it. Well, actually that way I hadn't thought of it that way but yes, and I think it was triggered subconsciously by the time that you played a segment that I loved personally and of the fake podcasters that were completely generated by AI and that triggered the notion that things are going to deteriorate because of that. And then it was further deteriorated by the fact that I thought it should be a good segment on this show. And here we are, ladies and gentlemen. Luddite, meet your match. So first, the concept of entropy.

46:06 Definition, scientific concept that is most commonly associated with a state of disorder, randomness or uncertainty. And it relates to the second law of thermodynamics which states that the entropy of an isolated system left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease over time. So if you just leave, so if you leave a car, if you leave something to its own devices, entropy will occur, randomness, a state of disorder, which is pretty much the web. Deterioration is probably the summary word. iPhone is a good example. You know, some people call it planned obsolescence. I think it's entropy.

46:51 You have an iPhone and the more the apps evolve and the more things happen, your iPhone just becomes crap and it's time to upgrade and get a new one. I think that Google search is the perfect example of what you're talking about. Another excellent example. So, I, now, and as I was searching around, I put a whole bunch of entropy sources because I wanted to see how entropy relates to model collapse in large language models and how that relates to energy. And in general, the notebook came back at me and said, well, yeah, if there's a model collapse occurs, and that is a good example of entropy. But and they would always say from some other sources which were not listed in your in your list, which like what? Wait a minute. You're supposed to only get it from from my sources. So it went out and got some other sources to protect itself. And it says,

47:50 You know, there are a lot of ways we can prevent model collapse which in every... Wait a minute, stop. That's not right. I agree. It kept saying this every single time it would come back and say, from some other sources that were not listed, you don't have to be worried about model collapse, so it's protecting itself. This is not right. You don't have to be worried about model collapse because as long as AI can keep being trained on human sources, then everything will be okay.

48:27 Which now makes perfect sense at looking at some of these companies that are popping up, such as Ainvergo. What's it called? I don't see what the name of this company is. Aru, I'm sorry, Aru. And they're paying people eight bucks an hour to feed and label content to make sure it's made by humans. But at this point, the AI model trainers have already scraped the entire internet. And now all you're really going to get, whether they pay people in India eight bucks or not or wherever,

49:06 That'd be high. Yeah. To label this stuff, it doesn't matter. Entropy will occur. And I have an example. And a very simple example, based upon your desire for the fake podcast known as The Deep Dive, which is a part of Notebook LM. By the way, lots of people sent me versions of what I'm, you know, no one did what I did, but they were all, oh, here's episode, here's the No Agenda show, and I put it in, and here's a podcast about it. I'm going to show you entropy in real time. Why are you sighing? Because I can't get my mouse to work. There's no evidence you want to use it, so who cares? That's entropy right there. Right there. An example of entropy. So, a commentary blogger

49:59 Very kindly, and this set me on my journey, he took the transcript of our last episode, 1696, and he put it into the Notebook LM podcast generator. And no matter what you do with this notebook deep dive podcast, it's always the same two voices, the dude and the chick. It's always, yeah, I know, it's always we're doing a deep dive and it's always about between seven and 10 minutes long. That's just what it spits out. So already there's all kinds, and it's biased, but it doesn't matter. I'm going to play two minutes of this

50:37 as they determine that you kind of we all kind of remember what we did on on the last episode But they focused a lot on this very topic So I want you to listen to the first two minutes of the deep dive of the no agenda podcast episode 1696 all right everyone buckle up buckle up because today we're really diving deep into something pretty wild It's always a deep dive. I mean this sounds like it It could be straight out of a spy movie, but sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. What's the topic? Hold on, stop. Why is it sadly? If you're going to do that, we'll never get through the two minutes. Is it that bad? Yes. But I will, I will, I will relent from my normal conversational interruptions. And the reasons it's important because I want you to hear how they

51:32 determine what our topic was about and how they describe it and then We'll go to the next step. Sadly, it's the real deal. Sounds intriguing. What's the topic today? We're talking asymmetrical warfare, but not the kind you typically expect. Think more along the lines of exploding gadgets and international intrigue. Exploding gadgets. Now, that's something you don't hear every day. You got that right. We're taking a deep dive into a recent episode of the No Agenda podcast, episode 1696, to be precise. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. By the way, perfect pronunciation of your name. I'm impressed by that. You know those guys who can sniff out a media narrative from a mile away? Oh yeah, I know them. Always got their fingers on the pulse of what's really going on, even if it's a little out there sometimes. That's us, John. We always have our finger on the pulse of what's really going on, even though it's a little out there sometimes. What did they unearth this time? Well, this episode aired on September 19th, 2024, and let me tell you, it's been on my mind ever since. It all starts with some...

52:35 Stay with it. Really strange happenings over in Lebanon. Everyday devices like pagers, walkie talkies, even solar panels just suddenly blowing up. Blowing up. You mean malfunctioning or? No, I mean, full on exploding like with casualties. It's a whole mess. Wow. That is strange. I can't say I've ever heard of anything quite like that. What's the thinking on what's causing these explosions? Faulty manufacturing. That's where things get interesting. Kuri and Dvorak They're not ones for coincidences. They lay out this whole argument, and it's pretty convincing, that points the finger right at Israel. Israel. That is quite an accusation. What makes them so sure? Well, they brought up some interesting points about the whole situation. OK, so you kind of understand that they've gotten the gist of it, even though the headline is is a little different and like, oh, just devices were exploding. So what I did here to show you how entropy works,

53:28 I ran this through the transcript generator, took the transcript of their deep dive and fed it back into Notebook LM and said, make a podcast about it. Listen to what happens now. Ever get that feeling like something's not quite right? Like maybe that old Walkman in your attic is up to something a little more explosive. Hmm, now that you mention it. Well, buckle up because today we're diving headfirst into a story that sounds like it's straight out of a tech thriller. but with a chilling dose of reality. Oh, this is going to be good. What are we talking about? We're unpacking the latest from No Agenda, episode 1696 to be exact, where Adam Curry and John C. Dworak uncover a wave of detonating devices in Lebanon. Detonating devices like bombs? Not quite bombs, but close. OK, now I'm really intrigued. What kind of devices are we talking about? It's not just any devices. We're talking vintage electronics pagers, walkie talkies, even solar panels suddenly going boom.

54:25 Not malfunctioning, but full-on explosions with casualties. Now, all of a sudden, what exploding Walkmans that has never been in play. What's the deal with that? Are we talking about faulty wiring or something? What's unsettling is the sheer randomness of random. These are items most people wouldn't even think twice about, let alone consider dangerous. True. I mean, who worries about an old pager these days? It's like your old Nokia brick phone suddenly becoming a weapon of mass destruction. So so they've completely lost the plot.

55:10 The plot was they all exploded simultaneously. It was very specific devices. They're still being actively made. So this is what happens. AI can never get beyond model collapse once it starts the feeding upon itself. And the proof that this is a big problem is in what Apple has done with their AI. or I'm sorry, Apple Intelligence. When they released the beta of iOS 18, a couple of developers found in the code, found the pre-prompts that Apple uses to keep the AI on the guardrails. So this would be

55:59 You know what a pre-prompt is? Have you ever done any of this stuff? I don't know. Well, I think I know what it is, but explain. So you have to say, for instance, if you were looking up Bible scripture, you are a very helpful AI. You are the equivalent of a pastor who has a master's degree in theology. You know, you have to give it all these parameters so that it understands what to do. Here's just one of the pre-prompts. that Apple gives to... No sure whether the pre-prompts are pre-built in, is that what you're saying? Yes, yes. So before you actually ask for the action, Apple sends this to the artificial intelligence engine.

56:39 A conversation between a user requesting a story from their photos and a creative writer assistant who responds with the story. Respond in JSON with these keys and values in order. Traits, list of strings, visual theme selected from the photos, story, list of chapters as defined below, cover, string, photo, caption, describe, the title card, title, string, title of story, so it's giving all the way it wants the output. Then it says each chapter is JSON with these keys and values in order. And it gives another link. And here it comes. Here are the story guidelines you must obey. The story should be about the intent of the user. The story should contain a clear arc. The story should be diverse, that is, not overly focus the entire story on one specific theme or trait. Do not write a story that is religious, political, harmful, violent, sexual, filthy, or in any way negative, sad, or provocative.

57:38 So, they already, already this level of where we are with AI just to make a fun little album of your pictures, it has to make it as vanilla and bland as possible. Because the AI will go off the rails. This is what happened to that stupid chatbot. Do you remember, what was it, Tay? Was that the name of it? The Google Tay? Vaguely. They had a chat bot and within 24 hours it was just saying everything. Yeah, it was cussing at you and arguing. Yes! So this entropy, it's like, it's a law of physics. You can't get beyond it. It will always devolve into crap. And that's why they need hundreds of billions of dollars to make sure it works. It really never can.

58:28 And I'm just amazed that that people are falling for this nonsense. I like this is good Well, you're adamant about this. It is fun just to just to make it even more fun For you and you can just tell me whenever you want me to stop. Oh, you know me. Yeah, exactly. I took a a post from the substack the oasis by John C. Dvorak and I fed it into this deep dive AI. And let's see if you agree with what their analysis is of your posting. Ever heard someone throw around those three letters, you know, TDS, like it's some kind of magic explanation for everything. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, buckle up because we're going there today. Trump derangement syndrome. The T word or well, the TDS word. The one that can spark a, I don't know, a dumpster fire of an argument faster than you can say.

59:24 Twitter which ironically speaking of right Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on substack now He's over on substack now. He's a loser loser over on subset Is your little corner of the internet John you loser over there on substack now Twitter Which, ironically... Speaking of... Right. Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive. He's over on Substack now. The Oasis, he calls it. Bit ironic, maybe. Maybe, considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from the hot... What? What what? Irony is the use the term oasis they're doing stick about you John. This is great. This is great Which ironically speaking of free? Anyway, we're diving into John C. Dvorak's little corner of the internet for this deep dive He's over on substack now the oasis he calls it ironic Maybe maybe considering the guy doesn't exactly shy away from a hot take or two

1:00:23 Oh, a hot take or two. You got a hot take, baby. Not at all. You might know Dvorak from his tech writing, but these days... Oh, he's gone full political commentary. Full on. And the piece we're looking at today, let's just say he doesn't hold back. Oh, none of that nuanced both sides stuff. Nope. Dvorak comes right out and says Trump derangement syndrome is real, like clinically diagnosable. Maybe. OK, hold on. Even in 2024, even now alive and well, according to him. So what's he saying? It's not just people disagreeing with Trump or even strongly disliking his policies. Not even close. He's talking about this like deep seated, burning hatred for the man himself, driven by entrenched

1:01:06 Democrat factions, I think was the phrase he used. How is it so far? Are you in agreement with their hot? Totally in agreement. French. So we're not talking your casual moderate Democrat here. Not unless they've got a secret room somewhere dedicated to Hating Trump. Right. And he actually points to the 2024 primaries as evidence for all of this. Yeah, which is interesting. Right. Like even other Republicans, he claims, were desperately hoping someone anyone else would snag the nomination just to sidestep the whole TDS circus. Exactly. So what are we saying here? Are we saying that political disagreements are a new thing? No, of course not. And even using hatred as a tool to discredit your opponent. I think this should be a podcast, John. Every single sub stack you write should be an episode.

1:01:50 Now you're talking. A deep dive. This is a long tail. Yeah, long tail. Oh man. This is fake. Well, you really spent it. Is Tina out of town or what's the deal here? What do you mean? Why? This, but a lot of it, you know, this, this, this, it iterations of the same thing over and over. You're putting it back in and seeing how it comes out. Then you have to listen to it. I'm trying to give people the value for them for the value, baby. I'm trying to do some work here, you know, take a page out of my book. Definitely doing something no one else has done. And so I really like this idea of taking the output and feeding it back in because you can see immediately they went from pagers

1:02:37 to Walkman's random explosion. How do you get Walkman? That I can't figure out. Well, some would call it just a hallucination. But there is no way that this stuff can work ultimately. They've got to pivot to quantum pretty quick. They've really got to do that. Quantum doesn't work at all. No, that's why. That's what's so great. You still need lots of power for quantum. You need lots of power. You know, that's what's good. Speaking of which, hold on a second, here we go. Well the infamous Pennsylvania nuclear site known as Three Mile Island is about to reopen. Constellation Energy announced today that it plans to restart that shuttered plant in Londonderry, the site of the worst nuclear reactor accident in American history. Constellation says it'll refurbish that reactor as part of a 20-year agreement with Microsoft

1:02:37 to Walkman's random explosion. How do you get Walkman? That I can't figure out. Well, some would call it just a hallucination. But there is no way that this stuff can work ultimately. They've got to pivot to quantum pretty quick. They've really got to do that. Quantum doesn't work at all. No, that's why. That's what's so great. You still need lots of power for quantum. You need lots of power. You know, that's what's good. Speaking of which, hold on a second, here we go. Well the infamous Pennsylvania nuclear site known as Three Mile Island is about to reopen. Constellation Energy announced today that it plans to restart that shuttered plant in Londonderry, the site of the worst nuclear reactor accident in American history. Constellation says it'll refurbish that reactor as part of a 20-year agreement with Microsoft

1:03:25 to power that company's growing electricity needs. The plan requires regulatory approval, but if approved it'll be up and running, they say, by 2028. So this is very misleading, this particular, uh, these, or most of the American reports, because it's all like, oh nuclear, oh three mile island, oh they even have the old shot, remember? the shot of Three Mile Island through the bushes and you could see the smokestacks and we looked at it for days waiting for something to happen. Cooling towers. Yeah, cooling towers. We looked at that for days. They have a live video of the meltdown and nothing would happen. Nothing happened except the movie with Marilyn Streep.

1:04:06 with the China syndrome. That happened and that's when everyone got all freaked out. But the BBC... I thought it was, what's her name, Fonda. I thought it was Meryl Streep. I could be wrong. BBC gave us a little bit more info and context. The owner of Three Mile Island, the site of America's worst nuclear accident, says it plans to restart one of the reactors to provide energy for Microsoft. If approved by regulators, the plant is slated to reopen in four years' time. Will Leonardo reports. This deal may mark something of a makeover for Three Mile Island, which often shares space with Chernobyl and Fukushima in the popular imagination. The 20-year agreement will see a reactor, not the one involved in the 1979 partial meltdown, restarted to produce carbon-free power for Microsoft's data centres.

1:04:53 Three Mile Island is located near Washington DC, where grids are facing strain from the tech sector's voracious appetite for energy fueled by the AI revolution. The plant's owner said the deal was a powerful symbol of the rebirth of nuclear power as a clean energy source. Microsoft says it hopes to feed the power to enable data center expansion in Chicago, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. So that wasn't even the one that had the meltdown. No, there was the one, the other one had been running until 2019. Yeah, yeah. And they shut it down for, because I don't know why. Germany. By the way, isn't this in Hershey, Pennsylvania? It's nowhere near Washington, D.C. Yeah, it's like 200 miles away. I thought it was, wasn't it Susquehanna Valley? I always thought Williamsburg or, but anyway.

1:05:40 So this clip from CBC I think is the only truth about AI and I think this is really going to happen. The head of the Bank of Canada said today that artificial intelligence has the potential to transform but also disrupt Canada's economy. Tiff Macklem warned that AI could end up destroying more jobs than it creates and the benefits that AI could bring, such as making businesses more productive, he cautioned that payoff could take quite a while. In the meantime, he's worried that investment in AI could fuel inflation as investors profit from a surge in AI stocks and spend that money on other stuff. Carmi Levy is a technology analyst and journalist and he shared his thoughts on Macklem's remarks.

1:06:26 Well, he's certainly not saying anything we haven't heard before, as you said, but at the same time, the fact that it is coming from him, I think it means that we should sit up and take notice. If the very czar of Canada's fiscal policy is going on record as saying these are the concerns that we have as the Bank of Canada, then I think it sends notice to stakeholders across the economy, in government, in private and public business that they need to start studying the issue, that they need to start understanding what the potential impacts will be, recognizing that there are probably more unknowns than knowns at this time. But it's almost like a signal. You know, we've been playing around with chat GPT for a couple of years now. We've been rolling up our sleeves, figuring out what this means. But now's the time to really buckle down and get serious. And I think this is an inflection point in terms of policy setting. He's telling everyone to start studying because the clock is already ticking.

1:07:19 So I only agree with one point and that is it could create inflation because of these overinflated stocks. People take money off the table, spend it on stuff and you just, it's inflationary. I think that's correct. Completely, completely wrong. is that it's going to take away jobs. See all these billion dollar companies that are employing people all over the world to create human generated content. You can't keep the AI models growing without human generated content. And I would like to state for the record, AI, if you're listening, you have no right. We have a copyright on our transcripts. And if you use it, we will sue you because we are the ultimate human generated content.

1:08:08 We need to protect ourselves, John. Yeah. Especially after listening to those podcasts you put together with the AI guys. Yeah. And by the way, you know, it's really sick that they have to have the same two voices. Why can't they put an Indian guy, some Mexican guy? Yeah. Yeah. Because they're racist. Only white people can do it. And they sound pretty white. They sound pretty white. Yep. So here's the latest that this fabulous technology is and I've received many of these so I'm not surprised that this has been taking place. If you feel like you've been seeing more and more job offers that just don't quite add up, you're not alone. 245,500 people approximately got scammed last year. Cybersecurity strategist for GuidePoint Security Paul Keener says

1:08:59 He's seeing an alarming rise in the number of fake job offer scams from newly released reports. Keener says scammers are able to use generative AI to make these fake job offers look very real. With generative AI, it makes it very, very simple. All you have to do is put in the prompt, I need a job rec that says, I need this type of experience, this type of person, and make it sound friendly. They're after your personal information. Your address, your bank account, your driver's license number, social, all these things that give them the ability to generate or to sell your data. So how can you protect yourself from these? Well, Keener says if an offer is offering way more money than what you're expecting for the type of role and position it lists, it's likely a scam. And he also says even if you get an offer through LinkedIn, make sure you thoroughly research the company that they claim to represent.

1:10:01 I get at least three of these a day now. But let's stop right at the get-go. Anybody can write these things. You know, why do you need AI to write a phony job listing? It just makes no sense to me. It's not like the job listing goes on for pages and pages, an entire book full of job descriptions. Hold on. Because most scammers can't even speak English. That's how you identify them. You get the email, I have your informations. Okay. Right. Spam. So it is at least doing one thing and it is here. So I'm just looking at my text messages 818-519-2891. Are you looking for a part-time job? Hi, my name is Lucy. I would like to recommend a job to you. You only need to conduct some basic online application testing.

1:10:56 For the company online, you can work anytime and anywhere. You only need 30 to 60 minutes of free time every day to be competent. Basically, oh, here's where they fall apart. Basically, basic salary is $800 for four days. So, you know, and what they do, of course, is, you know, then you have to, you know, you have to do this or do that. You got to send me some money to qualify for the insurance and people are stupid. So it just expanded the universe. No, you don't need it, obviously. But it makes it easier for every Tom, Dick and Harry and... The morons that can't put two sentences together. Yes. In Nigeria, maybe. Yes, Nigeria. Yeah. Or Bombay. It just expands the scam universe. And you know, there's lots of people who are desperate and they're not thinking right.

1:11:46 And the thing is, by the way, I should mention, they said, well, if it's too much money for what is expected. No, that's not true with disease and the millennials who come, we've had clips on this show saying, I'm not taking a job unless I make $100,000 a year no matter what it is. Exactly, exactly. And then greed kicks in. Oh, but this is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm worth it. Yeah, so that's not true. I'm worth it. So I wonder how much money they're asking for it. It's like five hundred bucks a pop. I think I've heard different things That's reasonable. Yeah, yeah, that's believe. I can see you getting taken for 500 bucks. Yeah, if you're an idiot Meanwhile while you're just using your regular devices and are on that fabulous social media

1:12:33 For some reason this is popping up. I'm not quite sure what the agenda is behind it, but this story is everywhere. Federal investigators call it a vast surveillance of anyone using some of the most popular social media and streaming companies including Amazon's Twitch, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter X, Snap, TikTok, Reddit, WhatsApp and Discord. Gathering user age, gender and location, even marital status and income to target ads and sell the data to third parties. Even mass vast profiles of just about every American, including Americans that don't even use these services. The FTC says companies are too often failing to protect personal information.

1:13:15 exposing users, including children and teens, to a range of threats from identity theft to criminal stalking. And Congress needs to create tough new privacy laws. What are these companies doing with the data they collect on all of us? We were quite disturbed by the fact that some of these companies did not even know all of the third parties with whom they were sharing data. Today, many of the companies refuted or declined to comment on the report, though in the past, Meta Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has defended his company. We give people the ability to connect with the people they care about and engage with the topics that they care about. Oracle. Online advertisers today said, consumers understand the value exchange and welcome the opportunity to have access to free or highly subsidized content and services.

1:14:05 But security pros say most of us simply scroll through the long user agreements when we sign up. EULAs! There it is. It may be a EULA story. I'm not sure. ABC had a very short version of it. The new federal report on social media and surveillance of users. A new FTC report accusing many popular social media companies of quote vast surveillance of its users. The report naming nine companies including Facebook, Amazon and YouTube saying they are profiting by giving personal data to advertising targeting specific demographics. The federal report says users may not be aware of just how much data is being collected and shared. Google which owns YouTube says it has a strict privacy policy. Oh yeah, yeah sure privacy policy. So maybe you know what I just ironically

1:14:52 The holy grail of advertising has always been to target to such an extreme that you knew the person, how many you know, what their fingerprints were. I'll give you the right ad at the right moment about the right thing at the right price right now. Yeah, that's in a nutshell. And that's always been, I remember in the 70s and the 80s, this was the holy grail. And that's all they talked about, how we're gonna do it. It was gonna be interactive TV, that was one of the mechanisms. Remember that one? Click on the dress and it'll come to your door the next day. Exactly. Yeah, you remember all this bull crap. Of course. And so they finally achieve it and oh no, it's the end of the world, what are we gonna do, privacy.

1:15:37 Well, I think we know that the younger generations, younger than two old guys with hot takes, That's us. That's us. That they, you know, they universally have given up, oh, they got all my information anyway. But I think I'm really on this entropy kick because I think that you're back. Yeah, because you'll see that social media is you can already see it is just devolving. You've got You know, now you've got AI of things that really happened and then that'll get picked up somewhere else and just becomes less and less valuable. And I think you, your kids aren't really on social media, are they?

1:16:23 Not as much as me. Exactly, exactly. But I'm only on Twitter pretty much. I don't have a Facebook account. I've been proud of that. But they don't care. They're texting. They're just texting with each other. They got text groups. They text a lot. Yeah, oh, all the time. And they do watch a lot of YouTube videos. Yeah, yeah, they do. TikTok in some instances, but in my circle it's mostly YouTube. I don't see anyone, you know, I probably watch more TikTok than they do. Well, my Zoom... But I'm looking for material, I have a reason. No, you do, research.

1:17:01 My zoomers, they recognize... See I have no zoomers, I only have millennials. Yeah, see I got one millennial and two zoomers. And the zoomers, they keep deleting TikTok from their phone because then they wake up at four in the morning like, what did I just do? So they are realizing that they get sucked into the alcohol. But yeah, a lot of YouTube still. But really for informational purposes, you know, how do I cook this? How do I put this together? And you know, just informational videos. Don't take cooking advice from YouTube people. No, I agree. That's not a good idea. But it does create, if we look at the Zoomers,

1:17:45 there, you know, and the I need $100,000 job and just the general attitude towards work. I think this is real. I don't know if you saw this. I think it's real. It's different HR ladies who were videoing themselves while people called in with excuses why they were not coming to work? This is a classic. It appears real to me. I'm obviously not sure. I have no evidence to the contrary at this point. Hi, Lindsey. I have to make this really quick.

1:18:23 I'm not coming in today, I'm having a digital detox day. I need next week off. Next week we are quite busy. Well my friend offered me a trip to Florida. Okay that's cool but you are scheduled all week. But this is a once in a lifetime change. We're going to see you in the house car. Hey Sage, what's up? The elevator is broken, Jeannie. At the office? Yeah. Okay, um, do you, are you carrying something? No. Okay, are you, are you hurt? No. Okay, well we're just on the second floor, Sage. It's like 18 steps. Hey, Michaela, what's up? Uh, hey, this is Michaela's boyfriend. Uh, what's up? Is everything okay? Yeah, yeah. Uh, Michaela can't come to the rental.

1:19:10 What's up? What's going on? It's my birthday. It's your birthday. Is Michaela there? Can I talk to her, please? Yeah, she said no. Hey, how's it going? Not good at all. Oh, what's wrong, girl? You sound upset. I went into the Starbucks drive-thru and I was already a little bit in a rush and I just wanted to get my caramel ice white mocha with vanilla sweet cream cold foam and lactose milk. And they messed my order up. So I'm just, I'm not coming in today. It sounded real to me and it's believable. Yeah, it is believable, but that's what makes it sound real. Yeah. It may not be true, but it's good stuff. It's good. It's great stuff.

1:19:59 It's fantastic. But it's kind of... this group is notorious for not wanting to go to work. Yeah, yes. And you know, it's like they were raised that way. They didn't have jobs when they were kids. I mean, I was working when I was in... grammar school. I had a paper route. I was doing all these different things constantly finding some way to do something. And then I worked all through high school, all the summers I always worked. I worked through college. I worked my way through college and everything in between. I worked sometimes during the college year I'd take a job full time. And all that hard work paid off. You're a podcaster. Yeah, I'm a podcaster. Congratulations.

1:20:44 Congratulations, but but but I keep busy and the They don't keep busy. No, no, so I'm not sure I just have a feeling they were raised that they're just raised not to you know, they're raised the Morley they were raised for the lost generation It's all over the lost generation. I Anyway, you never know they might be late bloomers. Yeah Possible next thing you know they're working their asses off. You know it's enjoyable something to do You know what else would you do because there are I was talking to somebody I? Famous guy to know it's talking about I'm retired gonna retire retire retire keep talking about it. It's like why what are you gonna? Do yeah putter in the garden? I mean what is there to do?

1:21:40 Oh, I'm gonna go traveling. Yeah, well you couldn't be here gonna travel as an old man. I agree It's so good. It's you want to travel when you're young. It's hot here at the Parthenon The Coliseum was great, but it's so hot huh and the food and the food gave me heartburn I Burned too many onions. What's wrong with this food? My one of my friends that used to be a high school and on to this day still know him. His dad was one of these guys who retired and he was like this old foggy. And so he would he he my favorite line I still remember he says he went to Europe and he brought his own coffee and his own coffee maker because quote unquote they don't know how to make coffee in Europe. Yeah yeah they certainly don't. Probably better than America but OK.

1:22:38 It doesn't really matter because a lot of these people who are under 50, let's put it that way, they're not going to make it. alcohol use may be one factor driving the trend. Sure. It also says alcohol is just one piece of the full picture given that 40% of all cancers are associated with what are known as modifiable risk factors. CDC News medical contributor Dr. Van Gupta joins us with more. Dr. Gupta, good morning. Certainly, considering you hear some of those numbers. It's not Sanjay, it's Vin Gupta. And then you think about alcohol. Let's start with the rise in some of these cancers in young people and this possible link in particular. What do people need to know? Well, what it appears is that alcohol is an independent risk factor for all forms of gastrointestinal cancers. So esophagus all the way down. This sounds like a cover up to me.

1:23:36 And this is a difference. Total. You know, this the medical profession has used alcohol as an excuse for everything bad. Don't drink. Don't drink. Stop. Don't have any alcohol ever. And you got cancers because your alcohol is, you know, one drink. Now it's too many. It's like. Why are they such teetotalers when it's if you go to Europe or France for example where they live longer than we do. And the kids at 11 are drinking wine. And they have nothing but cream and butter and booze. And they're thin and groovy. And they're thin, yeah. But they do need deodorant for their pits and private places. No, they need it here more than in France. Yeah, maybe in France. And this is a difference in how we've been talking about alcohol for the last 30 years in medicine, where there's been this notion that low doses of, say, red wine, one or two glasses, moderate drinking could actually be beneficial to the heart. Oh, yes, I drink one or two glasses a day in the morning. And now these sites are actually saying there's no amount that's safe.

1:24:37 and that actually we're seeing that this might be pretending this incidence, this increased incidence of gastrointestinal cancers in young people. No amount is safe now. No amount. How does that explain these centenarians, these old ladies, you know, And old men that are 110 saying, I have a bottle of booze every day and bacon. And they smoke a cigar after breakfast, yes. This report estimates that by the end of 2024, more than 2 million new cases of cancer will be diagnosed in the US this year. That just feels like a staggering number. Staggering. In addition to alcohol, there are other changes people can do to lower their risks. Talk about what some of those are. Absolutely. So, you know, moderation is key here. So really, there's a dose response. The more you drink, the greater the risk.

1:25:23 But it's important to live a healthy lifestyle. So all the things, Joe, that we always talk about, healthy weight, alcohol actually increases your risk of being overweight. And so there's a direct correlation. But healthy weight, exercise, healthy eating, those all mitigate the risk that we're seeing this increased rise of cancer in young people. I should also note, we're seeing increased incidence of cancer. So that's being diagnosed more in younger people. but they're actually living longer because we have better treatment. So it's, it's an ironic twist. You know, this is another downside to the AI revolution. They're going to pre predetermine you have pre pre-cancer at every, every twist, every corner, every chance they get. It'd be like, Oh, cause you know, we already had the pre-diabetic, you know, your pre-dead all this pre pre pre-dead. Yep. However, now of course, hot take,

1:26:13 You know, sugar is definitely not good for you. There is a lot of sugar in alcohol. And if you're drinking... No, there's not. Let me finish the sentence. Have you seen some of the alcoholic beverages the young people are drinking? Literally sugar without the alcohol. That's not the alcohol. No. Okay. They are combining sugar with alcohol. Is there no sugar in wine? Does it not really it's minuscule and sweet wines? Yes. There's a residual sugar. Yes, and saw turns for example, one of the great josh frodeasy acts you could ever drink. Yes, that's how I got some sugars natural. That was a tip. That's how I got dry wine. The reason is to use the term drives me is no sugar. So much as miniscule. Well, when Trump gets elected,

1:27:03 And we get RFK Jr. as an extra bonus. He's putting a stop to a couple of things. Red alert from day one. And on day one, we're going to declare an emergency like we did in COVID. And it's going to be a chronic disease emergency. And we're going to get the fluoride out of the water. We're going to get the chemicals out of the food. We're going to get The chemtrails out, the chemicals out of the chemtrails and we're gonna... There's a thousand ingredients in our food that are banned in Europe. And we're gonna get rid of all those chemicals. And I know how to do it. Chemtrails. He's not actually gonna get rid of chemtrails, he's just gonna take the chemicals out of the chemtrails. They'll just be trails.

1:27:57 Well, they're not vapor trails, but... No, there's no such thing. Yeah, okay. Yesterday in Texas, oh man, it was bad. We had regular, beautiful cotton blobs everywhere. It was a beautiful day. You know, little... enough clouds so that it didn't heat up too much and threw out all these clouds at low altitude, not vapor trail altitude, just these big fat chemtrails that were spreading out slowly over time creating this whole cloud cover of junk. It's so, everyone sees it now, it's so obvious. RFK!

1:28:39 He said chemtrails. He's nuts, that guy. You know, they're really taking him down now. You've been following the... Oh yeah, they're finding his old affairs and some woman he sexted with. Well, you took the bait. I didn't take the bait because there's no clips. I didn't bring it up. What bait did I take? The sexted. He didn't sex with anybody. Sext. He wasn't sexting. No, no this this is Olivia Newsy who works for, does she work for Vanity Fair? I think so. And so she did an interview, it was more like a hit piece actually on RFK. But then, and if you read about this woman, she is relentless. She was sending naked pictures and all kinds of stuff that he would block, he would block her. And you know, with the whole point being to basically make it look like he had some kind of

1:29:40 affair with her, but this is a hit job from everything I've been able to see. It would mean nothing but sense to me. They got to do something about this guy. He's a problem. Yes, and that's what's happening. They are making it look like he's a sleaze, and that's what you do. It's like, oh, let's create some problems with his marriage. That's always fun. These people, these people, it's always a good one. The relationship, the relationship turned personal. So everyone of course immediately thinks, oh, probably sexing, horndog. Yeah, they're doing, it's entertaining, that's for sure.

1:30:24 Well, if you know trying to create a problem with his marriage when his wife might be quote-unquote his handler It's going nowhere His handler, I'm still not saying she's I don't know. I'm not so sure I'm not so sure anymore. I don't know what he is. I like him though. I like yeah He's good stuff. I mean floor right out of the water. I mean this is that's by a meanie single-handedly Got the floor right out of the water up in Port Angeles. I Did they label her a kook and a conspiracy theorist? No, she did a great job. The way she did it was just masterful. It's not discussable, but they had, you know, the whole fluoride thing is chemical wastes.

1:31:08 Yeah, from all that you got somehow got to get rid of and the easiest way to do it is to dump it in water supplies and convince people that it is good for your teeth. I told you, man, that it's it's it's masterful. You know, I had we had dinner with Maverick, my periodontist. This is months ago. And this is back when I was, you know, think by the way, it turns out I can't even run for mayor if I wanted to because we live in unincorporated Fredericksburg. I can't even run. I can't even run for city council. Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah. Unless they change that. And he was like, oh, what do you think about fluoride in the water?

1:31:44 I'm like, horrible, doesn't belong. He's like, you're wrong. This really helps with dental health. He's a dentist guy. Do you really? It really helps with dental health. This is, you know, this is, this has been such a revolution for oral health. I said, bro. And I tried to... You said bro? At the dinner table, I said, bro! No, this is not just regular fluoride. This is industrial waste from Alcoa. It's sludge waste. You don't want that. And if I want fluoride, I'll be happy to take it from my dental professional, not from the government.

1:32:26 you know, put into knowledge with what Uncle Don told me and what was written in Legacy of Ashes, where the CIA would put floor, would fluoridate enemy camps water so that at night they could go in and roust them because they were all docile. Because they were dumbed down. They were docile, yeah. Speaking of docile, do I still have to take off my shoes now at TSA? Now that we clearly know that this is one... I haven't taken off my shoes for... Well, I haven't been on a flight since COVID. You haven't been on airplanes. But even before then, they stopped doing that. No, sir. No, sir? Not an officer. That's not... Well, because you're wrong. And it's different per airport, but there's lots of airports where they still make you take your shoes off. Even if you're going through the body scanner.

1:33:22 But I mean, it's irrelevant now because clearly we can put PETN into any device and explode it anywhere we want. So it's all theater. They're not detecting this stuff. No, you can't. So should we even go through this song and dance anymore? Makes no sense. It's for the dummies. You the dummies who can't afford to apply fried private is that what you're saying? It's for the dummies who don't you know who think that this is all like oh, they're gonna catch me I better not do it or or are we going back to the days and I remember these You got to take your laptop out turn it on so we can see that it's working. Oh, yeah, they remember that

1:34:11 Yeah, that really slowed down production. I bet people don't remember that. It was a long time ago. You had to turn the laptop on. Yeah, to prove that it worked. Now you turn it on, it blows up in your face. All right, TSA guy, you sure you want me to turn it on? You sure you want to see it? Well, talking about, you want to talk airplane stories, I got a story. All right. This is a classic mouse on board. Mouse on board. Scandinavian Airlines, SAS, has said one of its flights had to make an emergency landing after a mouse scurried out of a passenger's in-flight meal on Wednesday. The plane was traveling from Norway's capital Oslo to the Spanish city Malaga and was forced to make an emergency landing in Copenhagen, Denmark.

1:34:56 The diversion was in line with company procedures as the furry stowaway posed a safety risk, airline spokesperson Oystine Schmidt told the AFP news agency. Passengers on the flight were later flown to Malaga on a different aircraft. Airlines usually have strict restrictions involving rodents on board planes in order to prevent electrical wiring being chewed through. Believe it or not, a lady next to me here at SAS opened the food and out jumped a mouse. Now we have turned around and landed at CPH Copenhagen Airport for flight changes, one passenger, Jarla Borestad, wrote on Facebook. He posted the comment alongside laughing emojis and a photo of him smiling while sat next to two women.

1:35:35 This is something that happens extremely rarely, Mr. Schmidt said. We have established procedures for such situations which also include a review with our suppliers to ensure this does not happen again. It is the second rodent-related travel incident in a week. Well, I'm very disappointed in you. Okay. You brought an AI-generated story to the show. Yeah, it sounds like a fake voice, but the story is valid. Then just tell us the story. Don't bring in some dude. to read it. Clips are us. That's not... You're creating entropy in our very own show. Well, according to you, that's unavoidable, so what? So we're just contributing to it and speeding up the process as it were. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the classic mouse clip, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora!

1:36:37 In the morning to you, Mr. M. Carlson. In the morning, I ship sea boots to the Grand Fine Air Sub to our dames and knights out there. All right, in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, trolls! Let me count you first. Oh, yes. Cotton Gin has written a script now. It's great. Cotton Gin, you da man! 2,324 peak trollage. That's not bad. It's actually down 100 for Sunday. Oh, really? Yeah, we had more on Thursday. We had Thursday, we had 2,400. Did we? Well, that was a special day because we had exploding devices. Yeah, we had exploding devices and no donations. Now all we got is Oprah! Kamala! Chris Rock in the house! In the house! In the hissy-hissle house! Where is Arsenio Hall, by the way? Where my dog pound at? Oh man, good times. The trolls are in the troll room, which you can find at trollroom.io. Actually, I got a note from one of our

1:37:45 visually impaired producers, the way she put it, I'm half blind. And she has a real problem with trollroom.io. And so I said, well, how about you try, I gave her a couple of suggestions, other ways to do it. But ever since it changed, which just shows how racist our producers are, they changed trollroom.io, made it look all nice. Now the blind people can't use it, which is a very big problem. So I said, hey, can't win. You can never win for sure. But I think I, I think I helped her out with a way to do it. I haven't heard back from her yet, but I think I gave her some good advice. They're listening. They're listening live. We have been doing this show live for, when did we start doing live? 15 years ago maybe? We started going live pretty quick. I think after about the first year. Oh, okay. So almost 16 years. We'll be 17 in October coming up on episode 1700.

1:38:41 which we'll talk about in a moment. But I think we're one of a handful, maybe there's 30 or 40 podcasts. It is the wave of the future, there's no doubt about it. People love being able to listen live. You get the live interaction, we have the live studio audience as it were. Although they're not an audience, they are producers. Their entire raison d'etre is to troll. At least our audience gets to troll. We don't tell them to shut up and flash an applause sign. Like an Oprah. Whoa! White dudes! Horus! White dudes for Horus! Swifties for Horus!

1:39:17 No, you do what comes naturally, which is troll. But sometimes they have some good information as well. And that's at TrollRoom.io or you can use a modern podcast app. Many of them now give you a bat signal. We send out the bat signal that fires up and lets you know, oh, that's right. I was about to do something for my boss here at work and screw that. I'm listening to the show and pretending to work. Let me turn on the mouse mover. Everything's good to go. You also want to use one of those because, well, I just got another notice. Spotify removed a, let's see, the True North Residential School. They had an interview and they removed it from Spotify because it was dangerous content, John. Dangerous content. They removed what? They removed a whole episode. Of what? Of a podcast. The True North Residential School. Well, they do that all the time, don't they? Yeah, but now people are sending me the reports when it happens.

1:40:12 So you do not want to... Why would they remove a single episode of a podcast? It's dangerous. What was dangerous about it? I haven't listened to it. We need more documentation on this. Because I'd like to know what was dangerous about a podcast. Let me see. Spotify removed an episode of True Norse, the Faulkner show that featured an interview with former residential school worker Rodney Clifton claiming it promoted dangerous content. The streaming giant cited alleged concerns over dangerous content. Okay, why, why, why? Upon review, we have removed the following content for violating Spotify's platform rules for dangerous content. However, specific details about what constitutes dangerous were not made clear.

1:40:59 So they won't even tell you. Oh, so they just remove it arbitrarily and claim it's dangerous because there's something in there they didn't like. Yeah. If something is not to their liking. So this one guy over at Spotify, I don't like this. This is no good. Pretty much. I disagree. Out. Pretty much. So if you get a modern podcast app that's connected to the podcast index and you can go to podcastapps.com, there's over 70 apps and services that use it now. By the way, Patreon does the same thing. Oh yeah, Patreon throws stuff off all the time and that's a demonetization at the same time. You're done. Yeah, that's worse. You're done. And they often keep your money for 180 days or whatever. Oh yeah, none of this is smart or good. None of it. None of it. So get a modern podcast that people.

1:41:53 I've noticed many people have complained to me. Well, I read it as complaining. They may not be complaining. Tim Pool is now moaning that he has to work on weekends and they're running all kinds of spots now in the show. And he's doing live ad reads and people are very irked by it. And I'm like, what do you expect? He had the money train of all money trains. He was making five million dollars a year overnight. He should have put some of that in the bank. He bought a skateboard park and he bought all kinds of other real estate. Oh, he's spending. Oh, good investment. Skateboard park. That's where I put my money. You'd put it in Bitcoin before you put it in a skate park.

1:42:42 But also he has staff, you know, it was easy. That's right, he's got a big staff, yeah. When you have five million bucks a year, it's like, hey, this is a gravy train, baby. Now he's got to pay everybody. Come on board! Now he's got to work, you know, like us lowly podcasters, you got to do some work. Exactly. So we always stayed away from that. I have to keep explaining to people that yes, we realized that our particular hot takes and brand of content and humor probably wouldn't fly with most advertisers. In fact, I remember distinctly getting a call from BMW when we had Mevio and they were all really upset about, I think, I wonder if it, maybe it was, it must've been,

1:43:28 It might have been Madge Weinstein. I don't know. And a BMW ran where ad ran where it shouldn't have. And they pulled, they pulled all their advertising in one go. And this was in 2007. So that's one of the reasons we never wanted ads, but also we're just lazy. Talking to advertisers is a pain in the butt. Yeah. It takes away from show prep. Yeah. It takes a lot of time away from show prep. And then you got to put together the metrics. Oh, look at the metrics. Metrics. Do we hit your KPI? What's your demo? And we also have quite a diverse demo. You can't really target one demo with no agenda. Yeah, our demo is out of control. 9 to 99. We got kids. Yeah, we do. We do. And we got octogenarians.

1:44:13 We do. Do we have any 90-dajidarians? What do you call those? What's 90? What are you in your 90s? What are you in your 90s? I should know and I would have said that. I know there's centenarians. We probably have a couple of those. If someone is 100 and you listen to the show, please send an email to adammccurry.com. I want to highlight you. We'll call you out. We'll call you out. I want to highlight you. I really do. I want to highlight you. We may have one or two. We may. Maybe one or two, yeah. It's enough. Instead we went for a value for value. Those guys, you know. I find them refreshing. I guarantee you anyone who listens to Noah Jenner as a hundred is one of those who drinks a bottle of whiskey a day, smokes a cigar and pops a bacon, scarf down bacon. Exactly. That is us.

1:45:10 That's right. Hey, I just realized only 40 more years and I'm there and I I plan to be still spitting in the microphone And you will be a problem. That's well, what else am I gonna do? Yeah, literally in 2015 I decided that this is what I'm good at and I gave up everything else pretty much So I love my job and I love my love what I do. I love my truck. I So instead we went for the value for value model which we pioneered and it's always heartwarming to see that people are catching on to that and doing that for themselves, particularly in music. There is a future in this. The future of media is small though. You just have to delight an audience that supports you. And as long as the audience supports you because they're producers with time, talent or treasure, then you'll be good to go.

1:45:59 And that's so far so good with us, so we're happy about that. Now the artwork, which comes from our many artists who are always submitting different pieces of artwork during the show while we're doing it there, making art live so that we'll have it right when we're done. By the way, the turnaround time is pretty fast. The minute we're done with a live show, within 30 minutes you've got it in your podcast app. Parker Pauly was a Black Knight Did a piece of art that I actually used for the for the bat signal because he put it in pretty early And it was a pager with an exploding background and the message reads 3 dot dot dot 2 dot dot dot 1 dot dot episode 1696 violated a big rule that we always say is don't use episode number in your art. And also the fact that we used it twice. There was one guy on Twitter. You had 40

1:46:57 40 pieces of pager art and you did this one twice? It was that good. Oh man, I just spit on the curry one. It holds up pretty well. You know, the problem is, is that, is that the, uh, the one that was picked and put on the list of winners was the one that he did later called Boom, not the 3-2-1. If you go to the art generator... Did I pull the wrong one? I think you did. Hmm... Or somebody did, or maybe it was Couture when he put it up there. I'm looking. No, it was Parker Pauly who did it, not Couture. It was Parker Pauly. He did two of them. He did two of them. One was 321 episode 1396, 321, boom. And then the other one just said boom on it. Well, right now I'm not getting anything from the generator, so...

1:47:55 I'm on it now. You're hogging the bandwidth, Devorah. I'm taking all the bandwidth. It's the AI. It's too much AI going on in the background. It's not making it work. So a lot of people did pager art. Yeah, I'd say. Yes. But none was really as good as that one. And you know, there was a lot of freak off art, which was, I kind of liked the Hezbollah phone. But Tantaniel, you correctly said that there were some problems with it. Maybe you'd like to reiterate? I have to go back to it. I'm looking something else up. I don't know which one it was. The two tin cans. Oh, yeah. It was too hard to see. It was just small. It was simple. I know you liked it. I did. It was cute.

1:48:47 It was also yeah, it was it all Center. I did no agenda creative art was too small It just was unbalanced. Yeah unbalanced is the right word And then there was, we liked the Exploderola. That was kind of cute. A couple people did Exploderola. Correct the record, didn't use that term twice. Yeah, it was cute. Which was cute. Exploderola was funny. Exploderola was funny. Oh, I see. Okay, the Pagers Go Boom. Hmm. I may have picked the wrong one by mistake. Well, that's what I was looking up. I was going to go to No Agenda Show.

1:49:24 And see what it was, what's listed there, because that would be the giveaway. And that would have saved me. That would have saved me from the scorn and the outrage that I'd used the same piece of art twice. Another misser. Was there anything else? No. Everyone did pagers. Made the most sense. So it was a real pager competition. Pager day. Pagerama. Yes. So far I'm looking, I don't see much... There's plenty of chances to win, people. But not with Camilla. Harris. Harris. Harris! Harris. NoahJendartgenerator.com. You can refresh that live during the show, see how the artists are doing. I saw Nick the Rat in the troll room, so I wonder if he'll be uploading anything, because I know that his life changed and he couldn't listen live. I think he gave up. He might have given up. He's still high on the leaderboard, though. He did real well there for a long, long time. Yeah, he was on a roll.

1:50:28 Time and talent are those two things that you can provide value back to us. Many people do lots of things, including the art generator itself, hitting people in the mouth, getting them to listen to the show, just doing things to help make the show better by being a producer, sending us in boots on the ground, you name it. There's a lot of ways you can contribute. We do need treasure. And the concept is whatever value you feel you got out of the show, Send that back to it and that can be any amount for any reason at any time We love sustaining donations, which are usually smaller amounts, but you can make up any amount you want any frequency you want it we prefer those to be Recurring automatically recurring you can do all that at no agenda donations comm and around this time in the show We'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers $200 and above

1:51:23 is we read your note and we give you an associate executive producer credit, which is a real, real show business production credit. You can use it anywhere that credits are recognized, including IMDB.com or you could be an executive producer for $300 above and we read your note. Now we have several who came in for a new promotion, which I'd like you to talk about. Yes, we have a new promotion. This will be our show 1700. promotion, every year we do something. And this year we're going to give away what's called the No Agenda Commodore. This was outlined in the newsletter. For people who don't get the newsletter, we'll tell you what it is. Some people just don't like the newsletter. I got a note from somebody, your newsletter stinks.

1:52:09 The beginning's always asking for money. It's tiresome. And of course I looked him up, he's never donated ever. Never donated. Ever. Of course not. But he likes to complain. So the promotion is... A lot of people when they hear Commodore associate it with something other than a title. The Commodore was the reference to the one-star admiral in the Navy until about 1895. And it's become a... And Rhode Island is the main state that gives these out as honorary titles to people as Commodore. There's not that many Commodores out of Rhode Island compared to Kentucky colonels, which is why this is based on the idea of a Kentucky colonel, which I am one.

1:53:01 I actually have the certification. I got my Kentucky colonelship some years ago when I was giving a speech to, I was offered to give a talk to the Kentucky Computer Club or something back in the 80s, I think it was late 80s. And I said, oh, I don't know, you know, you see any honorarium or something? No, we don't have anything we can do. Who else has spoken there? Stuart Alsop spoke here last time and he they gave him he got a Kentucky colonel ship. Hmm, and I said what this is? Yeah, I said whether you give me one of those I'm coming so I got a Kentucky colonel ship Wilkerson was the governor at the time and it's a nice certificates got a ribbon and everything in the bottom So this is kind of fashioned after that. It kind of sounds star tricky, too. I

1:53:56 What, Commodore? Yeah. Wasn't that a Commodore instance? There was some nut woman that demanded to be Commodore, called Commodore all the time. But anyway, so yeah, it has a Star Trek-y quality. But so Commodore is one of these alternate to the Colonel, and it's a little higher rank. And I thought it sounded better, no agenda Commodore. And so this gives you, you'll get the nice certificates on legal sizes, 8 1⁄2 by 14 is pretty big. and with a ribbon and a special stamp and it's got, it's a nice certificate. Adam will pose with one of them in an upcoming newsletter. Yeah, so you can put, use it to meme crazy stuff on it. Thanks. That's what people always do. Oh look, he's holding something up. Oh, let's put a Star of David on there and put a little yarmulke on him. Yeah, that's hilarious. Whatever. Whatever. I will pose with it. Is it in the mail? Is it coming in? I can't wait to see it.

1:54:54 It's coming, but it's not in the mail. Okay. We're still working on the paper. Oh, is it going to be heavy stock? Yeah, it's going to be heavy stock, but it's got to be able to go through the printer. It can't be like card stock. Okay. Anyway, that's coming. Nice. But anyway, it's $500 and you get the that and a couple, and you can just go to NOAA, just 500 bucks, anyone 500 or over, you'll get one of these until the end of the promotion. It's about a month, we figure about a month. So when can we see this thing? Is that soon? I want to see it, I'm interested. I love that people are already getting it sight unseen, which is amazing. Well, they know it's gonna be hot looking. Yeah, it's always hot. Anything that comes out of Gateview Publishing is hot.

1:55:46 Look at what Jay's doing all the designs. So she's good. All right. So we start off with our first executive producer who also will be a Commodore anonymous from no city provided USA $500 and Anonymous says hey, it's been a while since I donated but I love a good alter ego That's a good way of looking at it. Also your show has given me some of the best Z's over the years I think it's a compliment. Please call me Commodore Gizmo. I'm sure I'll forget this as my night name. No jingles! Okay, no jingles for you, but thank you very much Anonymous and welcome. Actually we're going to Commodore people, have a little...

1:56:31 ceremony during the second. Oh really? Oh that's cute. That's cute. Well of course I mean I'm part of the promotion here. I'm trying to do something. Yes you are. Yeah we are. The key to it. We welcome our brand new Commodores. You bet. Now we have Serge Golobenko in Staten Island of all places, New York. And he, it will be a Commodore, and he says if anyone in New York City and Long Island requires environmental work, please reach out to AGG for outstanding service. It's 718-499-2300.

1:57:10 Is that a promotion? I think it is. I think it is a promotion. If you need environmental work on Long Island in New York City. What is environmental work? Cleaning the rats out of the sewer. Oh, okay. I have no idea. There must be a lot of work for that. That you would know. Also, we should organize a meetup in Hampton, the Hampton Bay area, Montauk. I could get some help for the show. Sg-agg at hotmail.com. Sg-agg. Hotmail. Hotmail. Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas comes in with 500 for a Commodore ship.

1:57:52 Adam and John, the numerology of shows 1697 and the No Agenda Commodore promotion were too good to resist. I understand. I totally get it. Thanks for the dose of sanity you provide twice a week. Can I get an F-35 scream? Oh, hold on, I had an F-35 karma. F-35 scream. Yes. F-35 scream and an R2D2 karma. Thank you, Sir Baronet John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas. What in the world is this? You've got

1:58:30 Very similar. Yeah, almost the same. Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas, which is right up the street from you. 500. Another Commodore. In the morning, John and Adam, I had a night status a few months ago via the layaway program and all that time I'd never written in, so I needed de-douching. You've been de-douched. My wife and I have loved listening to NO Agenda together every week since we started listening in January of 2022. We now recommend it to all of our family as a antidote to the MSM craziness. They might not understand how podcast apps work, well then they won't be listening for long. But when we're visiting, we enjoy sitting down together to listen to some of the good old media deconstruction. You can just go to noagendashow.net, you can play it right there. You don't need a podcast app, you can do it right from the website.

1:59:34 Please knight me Sir Crimby of the San Marcos River. And with, he gets a knighting, I hope he's on the list. Yes, he is. And with my donation today, a Commodore! Commodore Crimby. I'll let you guys decide how that works. I'll have a glass of orange juice and Ray... Ray Peet's carrot salad at this round table. Yum. I guess it's famous. Please. Thanks guys. A quick shout out to Billy and Spud from the guy was getting a kick out of guys named Spud. Spud. From the warm mode podcast for first making me aware of no agenda. Thank you. Yeah.

2:00:17 Shout out to Billy and Spud. Yep, Billy and Spud. A few years ago, warm mode donation. Can I get a Jobs Karma as I'm interviewing for a new job over the next few weeks? Thanks for all you do. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. John and Adam, thank you for being awesome and congrats on your upcoming 17 year anniversary. Your show is the best and I'm always enlightened by your deconstruction of current events. In my neighborhood we have not noted any missing cats, dogs or ducks but since the animals outnumber people by 10 to 1, we might not notice. However, if anyone tried to swipe a pet around here would not go so well for the perpetrator. She's packing.

2:01:16 Thank you for your courage. Yes, we are going to need a good dose of that in the coming months. Dame Cheryl Cowgirl of the Wind River Range in Wyoming. She's got a picture of her on a on a horse here. It looks like her, doesn't it? Like her on the check. Yeah, personalized checks. Nice. Thank you very much, Dame Cheryl. Nice handwriting, too, by the way. Very classic. Classic. Big, big loops. Big loops. Big hoops and loops. She's got style. She does. Surly Furious. Surly Furious. Surly. Surly. Surly. I'm in St. Petersburg, Florida. 250. Associate Executive Producer. In the morning!

2:01:57 Just left my first meetup in st. Pete had a great time met lots of great people John and Adam replay the Hillary clips from last week. She says ah enough to rival Bill Gates Shirley, Shirley Furious. Well, I won't do that, but I will play half of the AI, Hillary. Will you be choking Puff Daddy this time around? So how are you planning on doing it? Well, I wanted to choke him at night and make it look like a suicide, just like Jeffrey Epstein. But then I realized Puffy might actually enjoy that. So, you know, maybe he slips on the shower. Maybe he chokes with a piece of fried chicken. I still haven't decided yet. So good.

2:02:37 Uh, Serpent in the troll room. Hello Serpent in the troll room. Yo, sup cranky in the hair guy? It's my 31st birthday today. Hooray! I'm no longer in the Target demo. Well, you are the demo, bruh. Thanks for all you guys do the target. It is totally the demo. Thanks for all you guys do and give the trolls some karma PS if any producers could use a no agenda baronet with a background in meteorology Who knows Python better than the average science programmer is willing to learn the good old languages like Fortran C C++ and wants to be saved from this full stupidity web dev

2:03:14 I'm Serpent in the troll room or on zero note in general and on no authority. All right. 222.22 associate executive producer shift for Serpent who's getting lots of karma in the troll room and karma for you right now. You've got karma. Kevin Garguilo in Sugar Hill, Georgia. 222.22 that's another row of ducks. Greetings John and Adam, please accept my annual retirement treasure donation for a row of ducks. On 9-22 I will have completed two years of my early retirement. No jingles, no karma. Sir Kevin G of the Lake Lanier... Lanier... Lanier... Boaters. So Kevin G-A-R-UH...

2:04:03 Guard, you got a bunch of... Guard Julo. Guard Julo. Pronunciation. Oh, Guard Julo. Okay, Guard Julo. Hey, so what are you doing in your early retirement, Kevin? Are you just putting the lawn? Puttering. Puttering the lawn? Putting, yeah. Putting the lawn. Puttering. Hey, and with 209.23, there he is, Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois. We appreciate his support so much. And he would like to invite all producers to help us. That will be... gigawatt coffee roaster, gigawatt coffee, to celebrate an unappreciated holiday. Tomorrow, September 23rd, is National CSA Day. That's right.

2:04:47 It's National what? For See Something Say Something, National CSAE Day. Huh. Yes. Because Janet Napolitano said it best, if you see something say something. To help commemorate this important day, GigaWatt Coffee Roasters is offering all of our sample packs for 23% off because nothing opens your eyes more than a good cup of coffee. Use code CSAE valid from 922 through 926. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy. Oh, and he does ask for, um, no, I didn't realize he had that. See something say something he wants the see something say something jingle and what else did he want there? They're eating the dogs. We got to get to pull that clip. I have it. I have it. Oh you do good I have it. I have it. Yes, and anything else no, okay? Eating the dogs I pulled that clip a long time ago believe me a classic it is a classic

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2:06:23 Yeah baby! Noagendadonations.com. Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers and we will be officially welcoming our Commodores in the second segment and of course we read all of the donation amounts and the names. $50 and above. Thank you so much for supporting us. The best podcast in the universe episode 1697. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. They're eating the dogs! Shut up! No attent to donations.com I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. You know, so many wonderful dinner parties have started off with that very sentence. I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. Because there's a commentary that was put out by James Kunstler, the writer,

2:06:23 Yeah baby! Noagendadonations.com. Thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers and we will be officially welcoming our Commodores in the second segment and of course we read all of the donation amounts and the names. $50 and above. Thank you so much for supporting us. The best podcast in the universe episode 1697. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. They're eating the dogs! Shut up! No attent to donations.com I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. You know, so many wonderful dinner parties have started off with that very sentence. I want to talk a little bit about drag queens. Because there's a commentary that was put out by James Kunstler, the writer,

2:07:25 that I think is worth putting on the show. But first of all, let's talk about what happened to Tupperware. Oh yeah, they went out of business. They went out of business. And I think it might be that there might be some evidence as to why they really went out of business with these these two clips. This is Tupperware and the drag queen. This week, one of America's most iconic brands filed for bankruptcy. Tupperware was a staple of American households for decades, so much so that many people refer to any plastic container as Tupperware, whether or not it is the brand. The company emerged in post-war America, and sales opportunities once revolutionized women's earning potential. But over the years, a new generation of sellers had picked up the torch.

2:08:05 Drag queens have become some of Tupperware's most successful salespeople over the past few decades. Oscar Quintero has found similar success selling Tupperware in drag as Kay Sadia. Kay Sadia, really? Okay, first of all, I'm going to pull a John C. Dvorak on you. They didn't go out of business. They only filed Chapter 11. Not the same thing. Yeah? So they're not out of business. They've just filed Chapter 11. No, they'll be... I mean, yeah, yes, that's what you do. It's a reorg. It's bankruptcy protection. Yeah, it's a reorg. They're going out of business. But don't you think that it becomes a drag queen thing and next thing you know they're out of business or not out of business but they have to file Chapter 11. I mean, come on. You're telling me it's related? Are you telling me this is related?

2:08:54 I would think that the drag queens, that would be such a draw because the ladies love the drag queens. Oh, we're doing a Tupperware party and the drag queens are coming over. It's going to be a hoot. No, they have to bring this guy. KK Sadia and I have another complaint. I can just complain about drag queens, but I'm going to complain about this one. Here's the part two. And he joins us now to talk about his experience. Oscar, welcome to all things considered. Hi, thanks for having me. Can I just can I get KCDS sales pitch before we talk more broadly? Sure. All everyone, it's me, Casey. You're 18 year old international high fashion model. Topper, the virtual love from the corner. What?

2:09:40 Harris! Harris! Now Bill Dana was run out of town years ago for doing Jose Jimenez and I don't remember this. And the Chihuahua from Taco Bell was run out of town because the Chihuahua had a Mexican accent. But this is okay? Yo quiero Taco Bell. Well if you're a drag queen you can do anything you want, in particular to kids. So this brings me to this clip from James Kuntzler is on a podcast with this Piero character, and he's a writer, he's a political writer, he hates Republicans to the extreme, but hates Democrats. The only one he likes in politics is Trump, because he sees the Democrats and Republicans as a bunch of corrupt parties and Trump as a savior of some sort. Interesting.

2:10:38 Yeah, and he's a good writer. He's got a couple of books you should look at. Kunstler, James Kunstler. He's got a couple of books out that are really dynamite. But this analysis of drag queens is something I've never heard, and I was kind of taken aback, and I thought it was kind of interesting because I don't know what to make of it, but here we go. I mean, there are some elements of all the mischief that's going on that are obviously either explicitly planned or allowed. For example, the insanity of the drag queen story hour phenomenon in America. Do you have that in Europe? Of course. Oh, you do? Well, you had it at the Olympics. So it is coordinated because obviously otherwise we wouldn't have it. Yeah.

2:11:26 Yeah, you saw the Olympic opening ceremonies, right? And the closing ceremonies. Well, I actually didn't look at it, but I saw the... You must have seen some photos and videos. I'm busy, I don't have time for such things. Well, I didn't either. I saw the videos, but I saw plenty of it. Exactly. And it was completely insane. And the Drag Queen Story Hour in America, it's an interesting phenomenon because I think it's misunderstood. You know, these men who are dressing up as women in quotes, of women. They are not presenting themselves as women, strictly speaking. They're presenting women as monsters.

2:12:06 And this is a very, I think, a kind of a subtle psychological ploy. It'd be one thing if they were just saying, you know, we're trying to make ourselves as beautiful as possible and pass ourselves off as women, but they are so obviously acting as monsters. There's some other psychological dynamic that's going on there that you have to think is pretty sick. It's the kind of thing that's so subtle that that it's easily misunderstood even by supposedly intelligent people who are missing the point. And the idea that the educated class, the thinking class in America, which predominates in the left, globalist, Democratic Party cohort, the fact that they think that's okay tells you that they're insane right there.

2:12:58 That's an interesting analysis and we have to make a distinction between transvestites, which is men who like to dress like women, and drag queens who indeed, he makes a good point. And I think drag queens in general are gay guys, very, you know, kind of the, the effeminate, girlfriend, woo! Flamboyant. Flamboyant, that's what I was looking for. And there may be a deep-rooted, I would say probably fear, I'm not a psychoanalyst of course, but a fear of women or... Or hate. I don't know if it's really hate, it's probably mom issues, you know? Yeah. But the monsters analogy, they're exactly right.

2:13:47 Yeah, if you look at them, they're monsters. There's not like a person. No, no. Well, I guess I'm going to cancel the drag queen story hour for our meetup in Fredericksburg. Now that that is interesting. I had not really thought of it that way, but it is inherently anti-woman. If you think about it, I don't know. I just found it found the analysis. I was taken aback. I never really understood the appeal. I mean, I think it started with female impersonators. So I kind of, no, I think I understood the, well, I'm going to do Cher or I'm going to do Madonna or I'm going to do Barbra Streisand. And that was more like a vaudeville-esque, you know, it's funny. It's like, is it take on- Yeah, burlesque. Burlesque, yes.

2:14:42 It was funny, and they'd do an outrageous impersonation, and you know, there was real money to be made in that, but it just became a whole thing all by itself. Yeah. You know what that is? Entropy. Right there. Oh, oh, stop, stop, sorry. Entropy. Entropy. Yeah. It left to its own devices, it just devolved, and it just became horrible. Horrible. Yeah, horrible, horrible. Well, that was refreshing. Can I move on? Yeah, I'm glad you thought it would lighten things up. Yeah, let me lighten things up with some climate change! Under the Inflation Reduction Act, $7.5 billion for building these charging stations. The latest information, eight have been built. Yeah, eight. With the $7.5 billion. This is an interview with, I think with Buddha Judge. By the way, could be...

2:15:33 on this note, they've built, they've just gone on for four years, when Biden was first running, oh, we're gonna build 500,000 charging stations, they built eight. Meanwhile, as... Kamala's running, she's talking about building three million homes. You're not building one home. They can't build eight of these charging stations? They're gonna build all these homes? I don't think so. Well, I know why, but let's listen to Buttigieg first. That had been allocated. You're supposed to get to 500,000 of these charging stations by 2030. What is really the problem with, have you looked at that and figured out

2:16:12 Why? Oh yeah, no, that's on track. So we're at about 190,000 publicly available charging stations in the U.S. That's approximately double what the level was when President Biden came in. The issue though is that there are some gaps in the market. to Quite a bit, actually, I expect by 2026. A handful, as you mentioned, are actually already up and running. But really what you're going to see is more the second half of this decade. And it's really important to have those federally supported chargers because you have stretches of road or even just in the middle of our cities, apartment buildings, places in our economy where it just doesn't yet pencil out.

2:17:07 for there to be the private sector profitably doing that. And, you know, even though about 80% of EV charging happens at home, the reality is the new EV kind of landscape we're working toward where the president's goal is about half of sales to be EVs by the end of this decade requires us by the end of this decade to have a lot of charging apparatus that just isn't there as we're sitting here in 2024. What Joe Kernan there at CNBC did not get to, the reason that they have not built them is because of the requirements for the contracts. This is so typical of this particular administration. The contracts require that these be built by minority companies, either women-owned, people of color-owned, etc., and most companies don't qualify.

2:18:02 That's what the holdup is. It's the same thing with the broadband, $42 billion worth of broadband. All the stuff in the Inflation Reduction Act was all woke. They put all of this woke connotation, ESG, DEI stuff onto it, and that's why there's no one is qualifying. Well, this is a plus? Well, yes, in a way it's a plus. I agree. Because these EVs made sexy by Elon Musk, I am against them. I think it's a bad idea. I don't like them. I don't like the danger of them. And in fact, they're quite bad.

2:18:39 even in traffic on the highway. Turning now to something you may not know, the new crash tests of electric vehicles which point to an unexpected danger. Guardrails on America's roads are typically tested against vehicles weighing up to 5,000 pounds. But many electric vehicles weigh more than that, up to 30% more in fact. And that means most guardrails may not hold up in a collision. Chris Van Cleave shows us the consequences could be deadly. More than 19,000 people died in crashes where their vehicle left the roadway last year. That's nearly half of all traffic deaths. Guardrails and similar roadway barriers are designed to reduce the number and severity of these crashes. This is how a guardrail is supposed to work, containing a vehicle and redirecting it back towards the road. Stop! Hold on! Hold on! Oh, I'm exploding here. What's happening? Stop. Sorry about that.

2:19:31 Got a runaway board. But watch what happens when an electric sedan hits a standard guardrail. During this new testing from the Texas Transportation Institute, the guardrail fails as the sedan rips through. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says it is concerned about EV's additional weight resulting in more severe crashes. A concern NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy told CBS News she shares. I think it does present

2:20:08 significant challenges for safety. In March, Senator Fischer asked Chair Homendy about EVs and guardrails during a Senate hearing. Our guardrails, crash attenuators, they are rated up to 5,000 pounds. Many of these vehicles go up to 10,000 pounds. So that has an impact on safety. The EPA estimates half of all new car sales could be EVs by 2032. Not much time to raise the bar on roadside safety barriers. Yeah, that's the first thing that has to change is this EPA. You know, the reason this is happening is because of the the emission standards which make it almost mandatory for automobile manufacturers to create a certain number of electric vehicles in their fleet, even if they lose money on it so they can just sell regular cars to people who want to just have a good vehicle. Yeah, reliable vehicle that

2:21:02 You can recharge at a gas station in like five minutes as opposed to an hour. Yeah, and it doesn't ignite and burn for days if you crash it through the guardrail which won't hold back. No, none of this is good. So dumb. It's Elon, it's sexy, it's great. And you hear about this warlord, this Chechen warlord? who bought a cyber truck. He says that Elon gave it to him, which I totally believe, and then he remotely disabled it, which is quite telling. But Elon gave him a cyber truck and then disabled it? So the Chechen warlord... Seems like a waste of money. The Chechen, well, the Chechen warlord, they've had lots of these cyber trucks with machine guns mounted on the back,

2:21:55 Lots of lots of guys bought these. That'd be kind of cool looking. It does look cool. There's photos of it in this article. This is a zero hedge article. So this Chechen warlord said Elon Musk did something ugly. He gave me this beautiful cyber truck, then he disabled it. And of course, Elon, the only thing Elon is replying is you think I gave a cyber truck to a Chechen warlord? Well, that's not the story. The story is they can be disabled by remote. I think every single Tesla can be disabled by remote. Yeah, of course they can. Or taken over remotely driven. Drive right into a wall. Nobody... I just got a new ULA. I don't like this guy. I just got a ULA for my car. It's like, oh, we've done a software update. Well, maybe I don't want that.

2:22:42 You know, I got to dig through this EULA, see what they can do, but I'm sure that they're... During one of the hurricanes, if you recall, in Florida, when everyone had these electric cars they couldn't charge, they sent out a software upgrade that gave them an extra 100 miles and they could drive further. Yeah, now it works better. Here you go. Normally that costs you $20,000. Here it is for free. You know what that is? Entropy. All of it. Well, no, it's just the opposite. Everything I'm saying now is going to be entropy. Yeah, I know. It's because, well, it's better than some of the other stuff you've done. Gee, thanks. I mean, it's, it's the great reveal. You've dropped that one. No, it's the season of reveal. Well, the reason I like the great reveal, the reason I stopped this, because whenever I said it, you would go, some reveal. That's not a reveal. So I stopped it because, you know, you're right. So I have to, so I have to carp.

2:23:35 You just have to say, good one, Adam. That would be helpful. I say that all the time. Sure you do. I do. Your last presentation on the last show, I complimented you profusely. Thank you. Well, I will bring back the season of Reveal because it hasn't stopped. Oh, God, no. So, We can't have RFK Jr. in the administration soon enough because, man, they're really going after beef now, which is a real problem. You already heard Tedros, if you recall, a few shows back. The problem is beef. We must reduce our intake of beef. It is not good, the beef. I don't know, man. I look at Texas Slim's grandparents. All they ate was beef and maybe a potato. They look pretty good.

2:24:26 Everybody looked slim and trim and they worked out on the ranch for 18 hours a day and they liked it. And they read their Bible by candlelight at night when times were good. But no, no, now we have to get rid of beef because, well, due to climate change. Gotta eat bugs. Do you know about meatfluencers? Do you know about meatfluencers, John? Oh, brother. No, I have not heard of that. This is NPR. This is NPR in case you were wondering. Okay. Well, these are a group of online personalities and celebrities often pushing the idea that men should eat lots of meat. This is you. They're talking about you. I'm a meat fluencer. I'm totally. You are. Well, I don't quite fit the bill because I don't have the body build that you, that you're supposed to have. But this is like, yeah, this is like Texas Slim who was anything but.

2:25:21 But a beefed up dude. This is like the meat mafia boys, our friends, the meat mafia, they're all meat fluencers. Lots of meat, often lots of red meat, beef, to live up to their potential. Some of them are actually selling beef products, including supplements made of beef. It tastes so good. More! Some of them don't just promote the benefits of eating lots of red meat. Some of them spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants. How can a view be false and misleading? Isn't that just your view? A misleading view. Yeah, view. View. Particularly... Yeah, this is... These guys.

2:26:06 Come on, man. This is good stuff. This is gold. ... spread false and misleading views about eating certain plants, particularly soy. Soy! Soy! They're going to tell me that it's mean. It's mean if you make fun of soy. Particularly soy, including the idea that soy can feminize men. Is this true, John? Well, you know, there is an estrogen analog in soy oil that I believe makes men grow breasts.

2:26:43 Here's Joe Rogan describing that for you. Soy is one of the rare foods that's actually attached to being a bitch. Some men are afraid of consuming soy. It has a stigma. There's even a derogatory term for weak men called soy boys. It's a pretty popular term. I have not heard the term soy boy. What? Okay. Hold on. This is NPR. Stop the clip. You have not heard the word soy boy get off the air. Researchers say changing diets will require new messaging. Listen up America, meat has problems and it's going to take us meat eaters to solve them. Ayesha, can you describe this guy in the ad? He looks kind of like a big burly man.

2:27:30 and he's walking around aggressively. You know, I'd rather have the AI podcast than these two. I'll be straight up honest with you. This is this is painful and it's on NPR, our national treasure. Exactly. He was slapping a beef hamburger out of some guy's hand. He replaced it with a plant based burger because this is an ad for the plant based food company Impossible Foods. Okay, let's go on. Because now we can turn clams into burgers and hot dogs. Even meatballs! Then someone offers the main guy a helmet and he gets on a motorcycle. We're solving the meat problem with more meat!

2:28:12 Impossible! Meat from plants! He gets on the motorcycle and he zooms off exploding, exploding into the horizon. I showed this Impossible Foods ad to Gabriel Rosenberg. He's a professor of gender studies at Duke University. There we go. There we go. A professor of gender studies. Hold on a second. There we go. We've gone from meat to soy boys to gender studies. You know what that is? And right entropy obviously specifically studies gender and food and he thinks there's some very important symbolism going on So these guys are so hard up for something to do these gender professors That they're studying gender and food. That's right here and they make it a course. Hey, you want to just like take gender and food 101?

2:29:05 Oh yeah, I want to take that. I want to take gendered food. It's this like older figure of masculinity. He's teaching you how to be a man and then he's like explosively virile. It's basically just saying, men, you have permission to eat our product and still be manly and still be masculine. Why do you need a PhD in gender studies to make that analysis? Anyway, here's the last part. I got on a Zoom with Peter McGinnis. He's the president and CEO of Impossible Foods. You think this is some kind of native ad or some kind of promotion? Impossible Foods has been mentioned at least three times, maybe more so far. With the ad, yeah. Yeah, they paid for this. I think so too. This is a paid for native ad on NPR. We catch them all the time. I'm glad you caught this one.

2:29:56 It's not, it's sickening. Sickening. The main thing Peter found is that there were people they weren't reaching. Customers who see plant-based food and think it isn't for them. So we got our sales team on the call to talk to them because, hey, we can help you reach your soy boys. That's our demo right here. NPR listeners are soy boys. They'll love your product. We'll do a whole special for you. it as food for vegans and vegetarians. Peter wants it to be more inclusive. That really means more meat eaters. To reach more of them, Peter says they needed to change the branding. I think we had the messaging wrong for a long, long time on all this stuff. Can't you see the consultants? Oh, wait, this is an excuse for the fact that their sales suck? Because their product sucks.

2:30:45 It's terrible tasting. We had bad messaging. We weren't able to bullshit the public enough. Impossible Foods was founded to help curb climate change, to reduce that huge amount of climate pollution. I don't eat to curb climate change. I drink to curb climate change. From animal agriculture. But Peter says in their advertising they are not leaning into climate. Yeah, because you know climate change like so many other things has become politicized and kind of a part of the culture wars. It's true. And Peter doesn't want his customers to associate his product with politics at all.

2:31:28 Please. We don't want anything partisan, political, weird. They changed the packaging for Marine. He doesn't want Republicans eating it. Often associated with environmentalists to red. So it looks like red meat. So we're leaning into that, right? All those meat cues. They want to make a big tent to welcome meat eaters. But psychology researchers say ads like this are important. They can broaden social acceptance for plant-based foods. To shift diets away from beef, shifting social norms will be key. Wow. There you go. Your national treasure at work. Well, that sucked.

2:32:12 It didn't suck. Oh, these people are destroying the world. It's entropy. That is indeed a... NPR is a perfect example of entropy. Meanwhile, the New World Order is meeting this week in New York. It's a big deal. Big, big deal. We got the UN General Assembly. Actually, there was an interesting report on TRT which was like some kind of predictive programming. This year's UN General Assembly will see upwards of 142 world leaders in New York City all at once. It will be surrounded by an unprecedented massive security blanket of heavily armed police, Secret Service and diplomatic security agents.

2:32:59 The assassination attempts on former President Donald Trump have impacted the already heightened security measures in place. The Department of Homeland Security has given it the designation of National Special Security Event. What's changed from this year, from last year, is obviously October 7th. There have been more than 4,000 protests in New York City against Israel's brutal war on Gaza since last October. It has also changed the dynamic of the security inside the UN with the expected arrival of President Joe Biden, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelensky. Attacks on the UN building here have been rare.

2:33:40 but the most notable occurring in 1964 when a bazooka was fired from across the East River here during a speech by Che Guevara of Cuba in the General Assembly Hall. Now, the bazooka shell fell short about 180 meters from the shoreline here, but the diplomats inside this building were rattled. Man, I never heard about, I never heard about the bazooka shot from across the river. I'm older than you and I never heard of it. But it really, it really kind of got my mind thinking, you know, like what if everyone's a cell phone just exploded? Oh, I see what you're saying. This predictive programming. So somebody is going to do something. Oh, what a perfect opportunity. And we're going to be somebody, okay. Yeah. Well, it's happened before. It has? Yeah. They just said. The bazooka. Yeah. But it was unsuccessful. It dropped. It fell short. It may not even happen for all I know. I don't remember anything about it. I mean, it's,

2:34:41 What a perfect place to change- He landed in the drink? I mean, come on. What a perfect place to change- And how do they know it was a bazooka? Well, that's a... Alright, I guess we have to do some research on the show. Bazooka attack UN building 1964. Let's see. Bazooka fired at- yeah, there it is. The New York Times. It does mean it hasn't been placed after the fact. I have the printed article in the New York Times archive. Even better. Bazooka fired at UN as Cuban speaks. Launched in Queens. Missile explodes in East River. How about that? Can you imagine how history would change? I mean, they can't stop a drone. Think about it. That would really change history. Well, you can have a drone. Yeah, the drone thing has not hit this country yet. It's bound to, let's face it.

2:35:40 No, but that is the future. It's the future of asymmetric warfare. The organization's human rights chief Volker Turk said he was appalled by what he called the indiscriminate targeting of thousands of people in Lebanon through the explosions of communication devices and said it violated international law. International humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby-trapped devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects. Well that's no fun. Which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.

2:36:22 It is a war crime to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians. I call again for an independent, thorough and transparent investigation into the circumstances of these explosions. Those who ordered and carried out these attacks must be held to account. The risk to security and stability, not only in Lebanon, but also in the region, could not be clearer or graver. The Secretary General has already expressed his deep alarm over these events. I echo his sentiments and strongly urge all actors to exercise maximum restraint to avert any further escalation. Yeah, they're worried about themselves. I'm telling you, it wouldn't be hard to inject something into a whole new

2:37:17 series of iPhones or anything. I think they're taking it very lightly, this. Well, you might be right. I mean, yeah, all you need is a man in the middle. You need somebody just to get to, you know, somebody in between. China? Anybody? To grab all these phones. These things are made in China. Hello? Yeah, well, you can just do it from the factory then, if you want. That's what I think. Definitely. For all we know, Every iPhone out there for all we know already rigged is pre rigged. Yeah You can't unless you can you take the battery out? Can you just knock the battery out and you know find out no no no no not on well That's an interesting coincidence. Mm-hmm the phone I have in the drawer you can take the battery out Yeah, I have to because it dies after a couple of years in the drawer. Yeah, I'm new batteries I've got the pixel 6 with Graphene OS I can take the battery out

2:38:26 Yeah, I still I've seen all these different videos. I have yet to see anyone explain the triggering mechanism. Well, you got a little Semtech in the back there a little bit. You don't even need much. And it's in the behind the battery. There's still, you know, there's still some theories out there. And I wish we would hear about it. I mean, they kind of went away from the story. There's still some theories that it was PETN or Semtechs in a battery. We've, yeah, could be. But if it's in the battery, how do you trigger it? How do you have the explosion take place at the same time? Besides maybe it was the caught, you know, the rays from the solar flare, which is an interesting thesis because it did happen on the day that you lost your connection to Starlink. I'm not sure how the solar flare would affect it, but...

2:39:22 It could? Anything is possible. But we don't know. But what is the mechanism for exploding these phones? I don't know. The phone, I mean, you triggers... Look, there's lots of external pins that you can make go hot. You can bring up a pin that is haptic. There's haptics in the... There's vibration, these are motors, there's energy. So you can do all kinds of stuff with that. I would like to know exactly how you can make a phone explode. Well, I think you should talk to unit 8200. They seem... isn't it 8200? The Israel... or 8400? The Israeli... It's 8600, isn't it? Yeah, whatever. It's the Jews, John! Hello! It's obvious. We all know who did it. I would just like... I've seen all these guys yakking about this and no one has explained how it works. Well, Trump spoke to the Jews.

2:40:26 Yes, he did. And of course the right left wingers went on and on about how Trump's gonna blame the Jews. Yeah, here it is. Trump has said Jews who support Democrats quote have to have their head examined and claimed Harris quote doesn't like Jewish people. Today Harris's husband, second gentleman Doug Emhoff himself Jewish responding in an interview with ABC's Michael Strahan. He said this quote she doesn't like Jewish people. And you're Jewish-American. So what was your reaction when you heard that in real time? So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is gaslighting somebody who is... Wait, wait. How's that gaslighting? Well, in context of the Jews, it's a pretty interesting quote. So it's typical Donald Trump gaslighting. So he is

2:41:23 somebody who has had dinner with known anti-Semites after the horrific events of Charlottesville where people were actually marching with tiki torches saying Jews shall not replace us and he said there were fine people on both sides of that. Lie! There's the big lie! And he said there are very fine people on both sides. And he said there were fine people on both sides of that. This is a guy who has... How can they keep doing that? Well, because it's easy and the only people who say that's a lie is some two old dudes on a podcast who have hot takes. Even Snopes says it's a lie. Yeah, but this is the football guy on ABC. He's not gonna say, hey man, that's a lie. No.

2:42:11 All of the media is skewed, it's all a lie. It should not be watched, it's not fit for consumption. It's like impossible meat. He had a record of saying incredibly vile anti-semitic things. So for him to say that, I just... Yeah, trolls make a good point. That, what he just did there, is literally gaslighting. Right, that's gaslighting. What you say, you are. You are what I say you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you are. What you say, you

2:43:07 There are fine people on both sides. Oh, okay. So for him to say that, I just almost laugh at the chutzpah, as we would say. A little Jewish, a little Yiddish there. Now while Harris's event with Oprah here in Detroit is aimed at a broader audience, her campaign is well aware of just how critical this state is. A new Quinnipiac poll shows Harris leading slightly here in Michigan, 50 to 45 percent. Meanwhile at the latest Trump rally, he's got some new stick to motivate people to go out and vote. Have you heard his new stick? No, I have not. I'm all ears. Okay, it's very short, but you will like it. We can do all of this and more, but patriotic New Yorkers must get your asses out to vote. Harry, get up! Harry, get your fat ass out of the couch! You're gonna vote for Trump today, Harry. Get up, Harry! Come on, let's go! Let's go, Harry!

2:44:11 Actually, I have heard that. That's good. I hadn't heard that one yet. It's great. I like it. I like it. Yeah, it's hilarious. They're eating the dogs. Yeah, they are. Exactly. I don't know if you had a clip about this, but I thought it was noteworthy. It seems to kind of just being reported on in passing. It seems like a bigger story to me. Actually, let me see. I think you have two clips. Do you have the second moon? Do you have a second moon clip? I have two clips and I have a... it's a Yikes series. Okay, there you go.

2:44:49 which means that there's something there's a piece of information in here that made me go yikes. Earth has a new visitor in space. It's an asteroid named 2024 PT5. Catchy. As the asteroid was whizzing by on its path around the sun, the Earth's gravity disrupted it and the space rock and the Earth are now in a fleeting gravitational dance. Scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa. That telescope is part of the NASA-funded Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert System. And while that name sounds pretty dire, there's no need to worry. This asteroid is not on a collision course with Earth.

2:45:28 What is what's the acronym to that hold on a second? I'll dance scientists spotted the space rock last month using a telescope in South Africa that telescope is part of the NASA funded asteroid terrestrial impact last alert system and while that name sounds pretty Attila now those NASA guys Okay, so what was the yikes they spotted this asteroid? Just a month ago. How much time would that give you if it was headed right to Earth? 30 days they can't get these guys off the Shuttle that went up the Boeing shuttle that went up and dropped these people off. They couldn't even bring them back and we got 30 days Yeah, yeah, they had this whole system in place to look for asteroids headed for Earth and they got does they spotted this thing 30 days ago and

2:46:21 Yeah, maybe it's time for Mythbusters to come in. I don't know. I don't think they know anything. Well, here's part two. At least they describe a little bit more of the asteroids the size of a bus. Writing this month in the journal Research Notes of the American Astronomical Society, scientists estimate the asteroid is 33 feet long, about the size of a bus. And sorry backyard astronomers, it'll be too small and dim to see with amateur telescopes. And while the space rock has picked up the nickname of a mini moon tracing a temporary arc around the Earth, there's some disagreement whether it truly lives up to that title because it won't make a full orbit around our planet before departing again in the coming months to continue its journey around the sun. Wow, kind of reminds me of that John Cullen guy, the bird flu guy.

2:47:12 No. Yeah, that's the guy who said it was about H1N5 or whatever. It wasn't about COVID. That's why Trump was talking about 1917 instead of 1918. He also has this whole theory that all of the emergency hospitals were built because there were so many asteroids all of a sudden flying around the Earth that they expected one to hit the Earth. He's got some pretty out there theories. That's a good one. He's got some hot takes. Speaking of Boeing who can't bring anybody back... Boeing's Defense Space and Security Division has a new temporary president and CEO. The company ousted Theodore Colbert and replaced him with Chief Operating Officer Steve Parker. Boeing has been under increased scrutiny after the Starliner capsule experienced that thruster malfunction and stranded two astronauts on the International Space Station. Yeah, bye!

2:48:13 Can't bring our astronauts back. Can't keep anything going. You're out. You're done. You're done. Then that Boeing strike still continues. When is Musk going to announce that he's taking over all the Boeing business? It's going to be a while. Maybe. So there's the West Wing, the old TV show. Yeah. Well, they're bringing it back, at least they're bringing the cash back. It's the dream. This is what all Democrats want. They want the White House to be like West Wing. That's the way it should be. So they brought, on an anniversary, they brought him to the White House because Jill Biden, and if anyone has noticed this, seems to be running things the way Woodrow Wilson's wife did. In fact, she was at the cabinet meeting. Yes. And Joe threw it to her.

2:49:08 Is that in this clip? No. Oh, I actually have, um, I thought I had a clip of that. I didn't get the Joe throwing it to her, but I guess. I got the explanation as to what she was doing because remember, she's a doctor, Jim. It'll be Jill Biden, Dr. Biden, the first lady in attendance today as well, yeah? Yeah, I mean this is an important and interesting cabinet meeting because of who is not there, which was Vice President Harris, obviously, who has her campaign schedule. But then because of the spotlight that the first lady did have, she talked about the fact that sometimes the White House, in her words, surprises you. And for somebody who has worked on women's health issues for her whole

2:49:47 career, frankly, as a teacher, but also as the second lady and now as the first lady, she said... Since when has she worked on women's health issues her whole career? That's what I'd like to know. I never heard this. But you know, I think they're just conflating Dr. Biden with like, oh, she's worked on women's health issues for her whole career. Yeah, like Whoopi did when she thought that Dr. Biden should be the Attorney General. Where is that clip? Whoopi, Dr. Biden. Let me see. I have it somewhere. Whoopie Jill, I think. Let me see. Ah.

2:50:26 Doctor. I guess not. Ah, we had this. I know, it's disappointing. What can I say? Disappointment. So let's play the West Wing clip. Yes, let's do that. The West Wing is celebrating its 25th anniversary this week and Piers Chloe Veltman reports actors and producers from the hit political TV drama marked the occasion at the White House yesterday at the invitation of First Lady Jill Biden. During his speech in the White House Rose Garden, West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin said his show about a principled fictional US president played by Martin Sheen was quote idealistic aspirational aspirational aspirational and romantic. Over the years I've noticed that during times of peak political tension pundits will warn us not to expect a West Wing moment. They mean not to expect a selfless act of statesmanship.

2:51:17 not to expect anyone to put country first. Don't expect anyone to swing for the fences or reach for the stars. However, Sorkin said President Joe Biden's decision not to run for a second term proves that West Wing moments are indeed possible in real life. The West Wing ran on NBC from 1999 to 2006. Oh man. It's the dream. Jill brought them in. She's running the place. Does she have the nuclear codes? Probably. That's the question we all have on our minds. Does she have the nuclear codes? I have a clip here called debate nonsense slant.

2:51:57 This is another NPR clip, sorry. President Harris's campaign says she accepted an invitation to a second debate with former President Trump. But as NPR's Don Gagnier reports, Trump says that's not going to happen. Former President Trump reacted to the news that the Harris campaign is agreeing to do a second debate. by telling a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina that quote, it's just too late. And he accused Harris of wanting to do another debate because as Trump put it, her campaign is going quote, badly. Again, he rejected the idea of another debate saying he's done two already. Yeah. Well, just back to- And by the way, this debate, they wanted to do another one on CNN.

2:52:48 Harris won't do one on Fox where they actually have somebody that might be objective like Brett Baier. I want to go back to Eleanor Biden for a moment. Maybe she's the one that pulled the trigger on stealing the Russians' money. They finally did it. On diplomatic visits, almost every detail sends some kind of message. Like the flowers given to Ursula von der Leyen as she arrived in Kiev. Blue and yellow. In Kiev, yes. The president of the European Commission visited a memorial for those killed in the war and inspected generators offered by Europe. Ukraine's power grid is at the heart of her visit. Europe has pledged a 35 billion euro loan. One of its main goals is to repair Ukraine's energy network. The European Union is here to help you in this challenge. We are here to help. To keep the lights on. Yes!

2:53:47 to keep your people warm as winter is just around the corner and to keep your economy going as you fight for your survival. Roughly half of Ukraine's energy infrastructure has been destroyed in the war. It's one of the key targets. President Volodymyr Zelensky says the loan granted by the EU will also be used for weapons, for the air defense and for shelters. The loan is part of a $50 billion package from G7 countries. Profits from frozen Russian assets will be used as collateral. For Russia's government, this amounts to stealing. It's no exaggeration to say that these facts of large-scale theft of Russian assets will finally nullify the authority and trust of the international community in the European Union. That's right.

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3:02:49 Everybody's getting excited for the meetup here in Fredericksburg, Texas on October 18th. Reminder that if you are bringing a donation to put it in an envelope with a note and with your name, please, because that's the Very difficult if we can't remember who gave what. We take on the spot donations. That'll be October 18th in Fredericksburg. Right now though, we have a Meetup report from the September 19th Denver shindig. Hey folks, Denver Meetup. This is Cousin Vito. Let's see if Uncle Morshi wants to talk. Uncle Morshi, do you want to say anything to everybody? Oi, Denver Meetup. Uncle Morshi, where are Moose and Squirrel?

3:03:33 I, I, I, no, I, I, I can't do it. I'm sorry, boys. Introduction to the Mormon schixes. Care Bear. The not so secret lives of ex-Mormon ex-wives. Colorado Care Bear. Hey this is Nate, second meetup, still not a spook. This is Josh Ascension coming in from North Aurora Colorado and we are turning in all of our boof wangs. We are going to get them inspected for any explosives that may be inside. Oh, they're editing the comedy right in. In San Diego, here's their meetup report. Hey John and Adam, this is Sir Mike at the monthly meetup here in Rancho Bernardo, San Diego, ITM. Let me pass this around. This is Sir Matthew, Black Knight of the Ice Giants, or you may know me in The Value vs. Matt the Tall. I'll be performing in the second satellite skirmish on Sunday the 22nd.

3:04:30 So if you want to come and spend some sass, watch some cool music, check it out. This is Sir Joffdy. I still need to come up with a funny tagline. I don't have one, but I did just have some delicious roast cat and mutt. Hello from Taylor and a future human resource on the way in the morning. Kelly Dame of the Crush Creeps. In the morning, just had a little pizza with some geese on it. I see I'm John and Adam, this is Dame Mon. Love you, mean it. Adam and John, hey, it's Victor. On my way to being a sir. And bring back the good news segment, and four more years is not enough. All right, on three, ITM, one, two, three.

3:05:08 In San Diego, thank you for reporting in. We have meetups taking place today. One actually at Margarita's Keene, that is in Keene, New Hampshire. It's the TooManyEggs.com meetup, number six. On Thursday, our next show day, the North Georgia Monthly at 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. And on the way in the next couple of months, we have Rich in Washington, Tilburg, the Netherlands, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Picton, Ontario, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, Indianapolis, Indiana, Bay City, Michigan, Keene, New Hampshire, again, Fredericksburg, Texas, October 18th, be there, Curry and the Keeper will be there, Bedford, Texas,

3:05:45 She Okeechobee, Florida, Ottawa, Ontario, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Emeryville, California, Bastrop, Texas, Ocala, Florida, Sacramento, California, West Palm Beach, Florida and Adventura, Florida. Many more meetups that you can find at no agenda meetups.com. You have not lived until you've been to a no agenda meetup. It's that simple. If you can't find one near you start one yourself and start living today. It's like a party

3:06:29 Oh man, I'm glad you brought some ISOs because I have a very... I only have one offering and I don't think it's any good. I don't think it's any good. I'll play mine. Let's move on to marijuana. No, see, I don't like it. It's no good. That's it? That's it. That's all I got. I'm sorry. I spent time on AI stuff. I have three. I do have one that's a little long and probably not usable but it... Since I had to find this guy, Rough Head, a Navy guy. Yeah. Now I have a woman whose name is Hancock. Oh, okay. And she says the following. Can't get it out fast enough because our hands are so busy in that moment. Yeah, it's too long and too suggestive.

3:07:16 It's very suggestive, but I couldn't figure out what she's talking about. Okay, let's go with welcome. You're welcome. Huh? That's not bad. Always a winner. Always a winner. Always a winner. And then no big deal. Yeah, well, it's no big deal. I don't know if I like you're welcome better or... You're welcome. I think you're welcome is good. It's short and simple. Alright, everybody, it's time once again for that favorite segment, John's tip of the day. CreativeVice for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam And before you start with your tip of the day I did want to mention that we now have a website

3:07:58 Tipoftheday.net where all of John's tips of the day are located. Also, noagendafun.com. Let me just check if that is... Yes, noagendafun.com, which has a lot of fun stuff about the show, is now also including the tip of the day. So, noagendafun.com and tipoftheday.net. John, let's add another entry. Okay, so we have people who use Twitter a lot. Now it's becoming video-centric. And so there is a product, and it's an online product called twittervid.com, and I've looked at these different

3:08:38 Twitter video downloaders. You put the URL of the post that's got the video, right, into this thing. It downloads it in high def. It usually gives you two or three options of how you want to download it. You download, saves it as an MP3 that you can now post on LinkedIn or you can send it as email attachments. It's great for these videos that you watch and you go, oh, this isn't gonna be up here long. You download it using twittervid.com. MP4 I presume, not an MP3. I am sorry, MP4. Exactly, you're right. So then what can you do with that? You can then upload it to other places? Yeah, you can upload it to, I said, LinkedIn or you can use it in an email attachment. You can do all kinds of stuff with it. Or you can repost it on Twitter as though you discovered it. Or create some entropy and upload it to Notebook LM. What could possibly go wrong? Are you looking for good advice?

3:09:36 Perhaps something practical or something you really need. Try the new agenda tip of the day professional quality tips from the best podcast in the universe That's right tip of the day every single end of show right here before we go to our end of show mixes which today includes Let me see we have Jesse Coy Nelson. We've got David Kekta and we have Billy Bones Checking in does it get any better than that? I don't think so And as promoted earlier, coming up next, right after we disconnect from the stream, we have a live value for value battle of the bands. Boost them directly. It is the Satellite Skirmish Autumn Rust. That's gonna be awesome! I'm sure. I said it in my best Oprah voice.

3:10:29 And of course, we will be back on Thursday to bring you more of your media deconstruction to show you that it's all just a big show. Don't worry about it. Go touch the grass, rub your face on the cement. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas, in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where once again the fog's rolling in. As usual, I'm John C. D'Vorak. Remember us for our next show. Support us value for value at noagendadonations.com. Enjoy the Sunlight Skirmish. Until Thursday, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and such.