Attack Of The Icebergs

00:00 You know, the guy just basically says, global governance, yeah, we're just gonna run the whole damn thing, screw you. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's November 29th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 152. This is no agenda. Providing a virtual shield from media disinformation and coming to you from the minimum security containment cell crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco in the morning I'm Adam Curry and I didn't know he was in San Francisco, but I'm John C. Dvorak I didn't say that you said San Francisco. No I didn't

00:40 Yeah, no I didn't you know it's a glitch. It's a glitch. Yeah, it's Skype glitch. You still had the pan flute Resonating in your ears the pan flu and flute sounds like some new disease now vaccine for pan flu disease Hey, John How you doing today? I'm doing pretty good. I got up real early. I was as you can tell I was like way ready. Yeah, you're a perky one today. I am. Well, there's a lot going on. Well, let's begin the show by announcing today's producers. Yes, executive producer of the show. Yes, please. And actually we have three full executive producers because I could not. What? Because they all donated the same or? No, they all donated enough that they should all get. OK, hold on a second. Then let me I'm doing the show notes as we speak.

01:32 And one of them is kind of a code name. Ben Dover? Mike Hunt? Bad Ace. Seriously? That's our executive producer? Well, he wants Craig to go to his wife Shady Lane. Shady Lane, okay. With a... Shady Lane. L-A-N-E or L-A-I-N-E? Yeah. Okay, Shady Lane. And so he's or she is the executive producer one of the three and then they give a thousand dollars. Holy crap Wait a minute. Do we now have an official lady? Lady shady? No, no, no, there's got none do it. There's just it's not a night thing Oh, okay. I asked him specifically. No, he doesn't want to be a knight. This is that this is he says maybe later Okay

02:23 And then we have $333 from Roy Strahan, R-O-Y-S-T-R-A-H-A-N. And that's his lucky number. S-T-R-A-I-G, I'm sorry? No, S-T-R-A-H-A-N. So he's executive producer. Actually, I make these full executive producers. They get full credit and they can take it off their taxes. Can you actually do that? Nothing contained within this program can be deemed as tax advice. Consult your legal advisor. Right, and you probably can't take it off. But anyway, he's in another one of our shady lanes in northern Silicon Valley, but Roy is in Gosnell's West Australia. Oh man, you know the Aussies are all over this show.

03:12 It's weird isn't it? No, it's not weird because you know, it's a very small I mean how many people live in Australia 10 million maybe? No, actually it's probably more. It's more like 40 million. Wait, 80 million kangaroos and 20 million... Well look it up. But there's a lot going on there. They're severely depressed. Our third executive producer is from, drumroll... The Netherlands. France. Ah, sacre bleu! And it's Fabrice, but now I'm going to spell the last name. You pronounce it for me because then I'll correct you. Okay. Fabrice. Fabrice? R-O-U-X.

03:50 Hold on. I'm gonna say, Fabrice R.O. Roux. I would say Fabrice Roux. Ladies and gentlemen, Fabrice Roux is our third executive producer for episode 152 of No Agenda. Bonjour! Wrong. What? Wrong. What? It's pronounced Rooks. You're kidding me. He's from Marseille. And in Marseille in southern France, I questioned him about this. He says there's three pronunciations of this word in France. I would say Roux. Roux is the main one, the Parisian way of pronouncing it. Then there's Rousse, which apparently in some part of central France they pronounce it Rousse. And then Roux, which is the way they pronounce it. In the southern part of France, like in Bordeaux, and I know for a fact in Bordeaux, and then I guess in Marseille and that whole area, they tend to pronounce those last letters, you know, where in Paris they never do. So it would be R-O-U-X is Roux, Roux.

04:50 Brooks but you can do but your accent was good and I had the whole French thing going on there. Yeah, you were rocking Population a population of Australia 21 million three hundred and seventy four thousand. Hmm So and there's still 80 million kangaroos. Is it really you know that for a fact? Well, it's not 80 million, but it's probably 40 million and that's why they have to eat them. Yes, harvest. They have to. And by the way, it tastes pretty good. Rue meat ain't so bad. It's a good source of protein. Well, that's funny because the kangaroos call it rue and coincidentally we have a French contributor with the same name. So those of you who are the executive producers, that's Shady Lane, Roy Strahan and Fabrice Rook. Rooks. Rooks.

05:39 Congratulations, you can put this on your resume. You are officially the executive producers and this is no joke. It's no different from the movie business where you put up the money, you are an executive producer and if we had any chicks, you get to bang them. But we don't. So you're just gonna have to suffice with putting it on your resume. We'd have a lot more executive producers, I'm sure. If we had chicks to bang. But you can take that to the bank as we say it. Take it to the bank. Yes, as Obama would say. Yes, we appreciate your contributions and that's good. We'll vouch for you. I forgot to say that. Yes, we will. No one's taken us up on that yet. Well, they don't have to because now we're publishing it. It's published at the beginning of the show notes who the executive producers are and so all they have to do is put a link up and boom, look, here I am.

06:32 I know what I'm doing. One thing about the show notes, John, I've sent you 15 emails Could you just send me the login to the Squarespace site so I can fix those? I'll fix the links manually if I have to. There's something wrong, I don't know if it's the RSS feed or what's happening, but there's a trailing slash before every one of the links which makes it like this messed up URL. I'm putting all this work into it and it works on curry.com, it works on Dvorak.org, it works on Mevio.com, interestingly enough. But on noagendashow.com the links are always messed up and I'll fix them manually if I have to. Yeah, we don't want that. You have too many links to be fixing them manually. Those show notes are a tour de force. People should be happy to be contributing to this show just for those notes. John, did you just say tour de force?

07:25 Did I say tour de force? Yes, because that means it is time again for my French music! Sorry. Where did you have the French music queued up? I don't know, I was doing some editing on something and I happened to have that one and then you started with our French producer like, oh crap, I've got it! That's like a matter in a bistro! It's cool, isn't it? So he says we can't give the Frenchies a bad time this week. He says no, but I think I don't know for breezes is a male name. Yeah I'm always... even the British are humbled by the French and the way they take no shit from their government. You know, if the French don't... Oh, they always go on strike? Yeah, but not just strike violent. You know, it's like, hey, I'm gonna burn your car and I'm gonna roll it onto your lawn, dude. That's how the French act. You know what? We could take a couple lessons from them.

08:24 They had this war going on in France, I think they're called the wine wars. The French are very defensive about their wine for good reason. And of course, they do lead the world, I believe, in quality wine, there's no question about it. I guess they were bringing in Spanish wine or some other stuff to be blended to make the everyday plonk. The French were getting pretty upset about this because they're already told to cut back their production because they have a bunch of anti-drinking laws now in France that have got everybody annoyed. anti-drinking laws? Oh, there's a bunch of, there's a huge anti-drinking campaign going on in France by this current government and it's got the French up in arms. Sarkozy you mean? Or is it not Sarkozy? I think it's an underlying tea totaling group of French.

07:25 Did I say tour de force? Yes, because that means it is time again for my French music! Sorry. Where did you have the French music queued up? I don't know, I was doing some editing on something and I happened to have that one and then you started with our French producer like, oh crap, I've got it! That's like a matter in a bistro! It's cool, isn't it? So he says we can't give the Frenchies a bad time this week. He says no, but I think I don't know for breezes is a male name. Yeah I'm always... even the British are humbled by the French and the way they take no shit from their government. You know, if the French don't... Oh, they always go on strike? Yeah, but not just strike violent. You know, it's like, hey, I'm gonna burn your car and I'm gonna roll it onto your lawn, dude. That's how the French act. You know what? We could take a couple lessons from them.

08:24 They had this war going on in France, I think they're called the wine wars. The French are very defensive about their wine for good reason. And of course, they do lead the world, I believe, in quality wine, there's no question about it. I guess they were bringing in Spanish wine or some other stuff to be blended to make the everyday plonk. The French were getting pretty upset about this because they're already told to cut back their production because they have a bunch of anti-drinking laws now in France that have got everybody annoyed. anti-drinking laws? Oh, there's a bunch of, there's a huge anti-drinking campaign going on in France by this current government and it's got the French up in arms. Sarkozy you mean? Or is it not Sarkozy? I think it's an underlying tea totaling group of French.

09:15 How irritating. So anyway, so they had this battle going on and there were some reports you could read in magazines like Decanter and what they would do. They'd hijack these trucks, these giant tanker trucks filled with Spanish wine. They'd hijack the truck, drag the truck driver out, beat him, and then dump the wine down the sewer. Okay, I'm not for the beating the truck driver because that's just kind of ridiculous. That guy can't help it. But I do like the idea of pouring the wine down the sewer. That's cool. I'm against physical violence, generally. Generally I'm against physical violence. However, John, let me point out that we have a formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. But we do not encourage hitting truck drivers. So, maybe the truck driver, I may have exaggerated that part, but I know that they definitely dump the wine down the sewer. Cool. Very cool.

10:14 So I wonder if they taste the wine before they dump it down the sewer. Pierre, one moment. Before you do that, this would seem like such a waste. Let us try it. Anyway, so yeah, you know what? I'm right there with you. We just don't hear a lot about the French. Well, the French speak French. They don't listen to our show. Well, clearly some do. And I have to say that they have such a closed media system. It is so protectionist. That it's very hard for them to get anything from the outside world into France. You know that everything has to... In a way Canada still has some of that, but the internet of course changed this and France was I believe actually kind of slow to get onto the internet because they had that Minitel system.

11:00 Well, they've always tried to stay and have their own closed system. Yeah, they wanted to close system and of course now tell was very popular began I think in the 80s and it was became very popular and then it became kind of a detriment a detractor well, it became a thing that was just oriented toward hookers and So they are they are kind of on to something Well, the Minitel thing turned into a big kind of a promotional system for hookers. And you would get these, you know, you'd get these, it's a text messaging system. It evolved into something like that. And then the hookers got, you know, the different names of people and they would do just soliciting everybody left and right. And there's some hookers in France, apparently. You're reliably informed.

11:45 So, there's one story I wanted to talk about right at the beginning since I've now got the mic. This is a story I think it's interesting because we didn't cover it. You've got the mic, Mr. Dvorak. I'm sorry. We didn't cover this story and I think, you know, because for one thing it didn't fit into our scheme of things and it seemed a little sketchy at the time and it was just an unfortunate story. But there was a story about a cheerleader and she took a regular seasonal flu shot. And then she started walking backwards, right? Crazy disorder. She's walking backwards and now all the research has indicated, by the way, she's cured now from some herbs that, because she was hooked up with a quack

12:25 who apparently had made all these assertions that he could cure anything and the whole thing appears now even though we didn't cover it all but people have seen it. We got a lot of links. People say look at this, look at this, look at this. What is that? It's a scam ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, you know and I think that inherently both of us felt that and that's why we didn't respond to it because I had it in my links and I was like I don't know man, and I just kind of let it go. But yeah, everyone was like, oh look, you know, she's neurological disorder. But how do we know it was a scam? Do you have a... Yeah, it's all over the place now. I do have a bunch of links. I'll send them over. Which of course is sad because it detracts from the actual message that we do agree with, which is these vaccines are kind of an outrage.

13:10 Yeah, but you know apparently they're doing research in the case. It came on too fast to be real and then It looked pretty disturbing I have to she was yeah She was hooked up with this guy who was a you know one of these characters who's always Don't tell me he has an internet radio show and he carries around the Constitution and votes for Ron Paul Oh, no, the name is Desiree Jennings Right. That's her name Scienceblogs.com has a good story on it. cured of a vaccine-induced dystonia. So what was it? Was it just a joke, a hoax, or was it promoting some kind of herbal anti-slime flu stuff? It was promoting some sort of herbal guy who had, you know, all these... Funny how that works, John, that both of us felt that that was just not credible, and we didn't even do deep research on it. Yeah, we never even discussed it. That's what I mean, is we both felt like, hmm, it doesn't feel right. It just shows you that we've learned a few things.

14:09 in the past two years? Well, you know, also the guy, I think the guy could have made more, or the scheme would have had more legs if it was a straight up swine flu vaccine as opposed to the seasonal flu which has been shooting down people for the last decade, decades. And so I think he didn't do a very good job of scamming. I'd just like to point out in the chat room, multiple mentions made that prostitution is legal in Australia. Oh, is that right? Yeah, I actually know that. I've been to Australia. Yeah, well, fine. Well, it's legal in Nevada too, okay. Yeah, but it's expensive and you gotta like fly there. Why, is it cheap in Australia? Of course, because it's legal, then you have market forces. How cheap is cheap? Like Amsterdam cheap.

15:04 Where it's not legal in Amsterdam, but it is tolerated. It's cheap. It's just cheap. Not legal, it's just cheap. I got some doozies, man. There's a lot going on. I'm just not quite sure where to start. The most obvious place seems to be Climate Gate. Oh. And you know why I'd like to start there? Well, you gonna go that article in the Guardian and this character that they've chosen to represent England or the UK or whatever? No, the reason why I'd like to start is because I have a jingle for it. To the gate, to the gate, to the Climate Gates.

15:49 That's great. I love our producers man. It's like a Kate Bush vibe Isn't that nice with a little birds chirping there in the background? Come on one more time. Hmm. It's really good here comes Yeah, I should that has legs Yeah, I think so too. I think this whole climate gate thing has legs. Well, it's very interesting because you mentioned the article in the Communist rag the Guardian. Why don't you just hit that real quick and then I'll get to what I think is the real big news. Well I don't have this story up right now. Okay well so there's a guy from the British National Party, the BNP, which is generally frowned upon in the UK. Yeah the British National Party. Yeah seen as a bunch of quote skinheads and you know these guys will say about climate change, well if you want to stop climate change

16:48 throw all the immigrants out because they're exhaling CO2 and they're clogging up the roads. So now I'm not against them or for them, I respect everyone's opinion but boy they are, it's like you could have a hotter potato in the UK to say hey how about that BNP huh? Well that's one of these things, this is one of these situations that I run into where I always wonder if they bring, you know, you send a representative that who's a red herring. In other words, the guy is so out there. So let's just, we just, we skipped over what's happening. There's 15 delegates from the European Union going to Copenhagen to seal the deal, as they would say at hopenhagen.org. And this guy is a complete denialist, as we would call him.

17:41 And so now, and everyone in the EU was like, oh, how can we do this? This is horrible. He doesn't even care about the earth. There's our opening. Make a note. Let me mark it. Okay. But that's essentially what... what's going on and and I think it's you know it for obvious reasons this they're sending this guy this is perfect first of all you have you can't have an honest debate about anything or have a real negotiation about some kind of new world order global government deal unless you've got someone opposing it so instead of sending you know some people who probably will come there with

18:22 real arguments and stuff that they've thought about and can articulate in a political manner that someone will go, huh, that's an interesting point. Just send a really loud mouth guy. And then ridicule him. I've always said if you want to do a political debate, say, and you have control of it, you have your man, your running, let's say, against an opposition party on some issue. You set up a debate where you have your side represented by a reasonable thinking person and then have the other side represented by a maniac. Just a complete screwball. And then put the debate on television.

18:59 make the guy out to be a screwball like was done with Ron Paul and is continuously done with him and Dennis Kucinich and other people and us even. That's why I proudly bear the badge of crackpot. You might as well, yeah, if you can't cover it up, turn it up, right? And what's interesting about this character that they're going to send is that the Guardian being a propaganda rag has, they use the term instead, you have to remember when you read this stuff, instead of using the word skeptic, which would indicate someone who is thoughtful, you just use the word denial. There's also a contrarian, climate contrarian is the new alliteration version of it.

19:40 Which is reasonable, but denier just assumes bigotry. And it also is associative because the first usage of the word denier in a political sense was the Holocaust deniers. And so you associate in your brain immediately a guy who's completely wrong. And they used that word to an extreme in The Guardian. Denier, denier, he's a denier. Well, unfortunately I think there was a meeting to which John you and I were not invited. Again. Yeah, and the meeting was, okay let's turn up the heat. We've got all these emails out there from the CRU. It's pretty clear that the science was not in and a lot of funky stuff was going on. We got caught with our pants down. Time to turn up the heat and boy is it being turned up. Yeah, no kidding. Whoa.

20:35 20 times more PR than ever. Things are going to be worse than ever, blah blah blah. It's one of those tricks. I ran into a guy on the blog once who had a robot that he was posting comments all over the place. And, but they were all, they made some sense, but it was done by a bot, we found out later, because I got a hold of the guy. And he had some bad PR on the internet about him. And so he wanted to bury it by just... Yeah, by posting shit. Yeah. By posting tons of stuff. So he set up this robot and started posting things. And what it would do is take a look at a, at a,

21:13 subject line, the first paragraph. It would extrapolate some sentence having to do with it. And it actually made sense. There's a couple of like, I really enjoyed your post about subject. Yeah. Gee, you might want to take a look at this bitly link. Yeah, I know I get that. I got a lot of that kind of spam. But it's right because then what happens is when you go to Google and try that now with ClimateGate, you're going to see that there's so much obfuscation. Thank you. Perfect word. so much obfuscation going on that you have to get into seven or eight pages deep, but let's face it, most people won't do that except us, before you get to anything. And the latest, and you watch, you watch this one propagate like wildfire from the same people who once again prove to you that jet fuel can bring down steel buildings, scientific American David Bielo

22:11 has published an article which I think will get some big legs. Scientific American is of course still regarded as a very upstanding magazine, would you agree John? It's become a propaganda tool for years. Of course it is, but people still believe, oh, Scientific American. So this David Bielo has written this article titled... How do you spell Bielo? I'm gonna look him up. B-I-E-L-L-O. Oh, I've already looked him up and I've got some stuff we have to listen to. Climate change cover-up? You better believe it. Yeah, that's the story. I saw that. So, and right there on the graph, you know, right there at the top of the article is a graph of the temperature shooting up and I can feel my ass getting hot just looking at it.

22:53 Was Senator James Inhofe right when he declared 2009 the year of the climate contrarian? A slew of emails stolen from the University of East Anglia's climatic research unit highlight definite character flaws among some climate scientists. I love it. Here it comes. Character flaws, including an embarrassing attempt to delete emails that discuss the most recent reports from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, while also exposing what looks like a failure of scientists to acknowledge a halt to global warming in the past decade. Sadly, For the potential fate of humans... Oh, I love the adverb. Sadly, for the potential fate of human civilization, rumors of the demise of climate change have been much exaggerated. This, of course, is a throwback to rumors of my death have been grossly overstated. Who said that?

23:38 I think Mark Twain said it once. Yeah, I think it is Mark Twain. The past decade recorded nine of the warmest years in recent history as well as the rapid dwindling of the Arctic sea ice blah blah blah blah blah so it just keeps on going. Judge for yourself, etc. etc. There's all this stuff in there. There is in fact, he says, a climate conspiracy. It just happens to be one launched by the fossil fuel industry to obscure the truth about climate change and delay any action. And this release of emails right before the Copenhagen conference is just another salvo and a highly effective one in the public relations battle, redolent with the scent of the same flaks and hacks who brought you Smoking Isn't Dangerous.

24:25 So now we're cancer deniers, essentially. I like the jump of logic to associative, by the way, always is associative. So now the climate change deniers are the same people as those who think smoking is not dangerous. But nobody ever thought smoking was not dangerous. I mean, for one thing, the only people who were the apologists for the tobacco industry that come out and they keep saying this, but nobody in their right mind believed it. And the fact of the matter is that this analogy stinks. It's a phony baloney analogy this guy's making here to try to catch people's brain. What he's trying to do, he's basically turning it around and saying, oh yeah, and of course it's the oil companies. While in fact the oil companies I believe are really on the side of Copenhagen. Those guys want it. They're all in cap and trade. They're all for it. They're going to make out like bandits. They love it.

25:20 I'm seeing no evidence at the oil company. I mean, I think early on there was some stuff going on with the oil companies, but as far as I can tell, they'd love to see $200 a barrel oil. Exactly. They'd love all this stuff. Of course they would. So you do less work and make more money. The guy points to this David Biello, points to the Copenhagen diagnosis, a diagnosis which has just been released. New term. Diagnosis. Oh yeah. And they've released a report, so this is CopenhagenDiagnosis.org. I haven't done a who is John, maybe you can do that while I read this piece from the article. The purpose of this report is to synthesize the most policy relevant climate science published since the close off of material for the last IPCC report. So essentially, they've now got a new bit of information, breaking news, breaking news.

26:19 and it's a huge Copenhagen diagnosis org yes it's difficult to spell actually so there's an executive summary so this is essentially this is an official report and you look of course all of these PhDs and all these scientists who have participated in this summary of the port surging green greenhouse gas emissions Recent global temperatures demonstrate human-based warming. Acceleration of melting ice sheets, glaciers and ice caps. Rapid Arctic Sea ice decline. Current sea level rise underestimates. Sea level prediction revised. Delay in action risks irreversible damage. And the turning point must come soon. And finally, you're all going to die if you don't give us your money, bitches.

27:13 And you can find this report and this CopenhagenDiagnosis.org in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com or Dvorak.org or Curry.com. Have you looked it up yet? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. Who owns it? It looks like this, well the sponsoring registrar is interesting, it's Planet Domain. It's in Europe. It looks like a guy named Stephen Gray, you can look him up, S-T-E-P-H-E-N-Gray, G-R-A-Y. He's in the Matthews Building in Australia. So this is an Australian operation at some level. And he's at the unsw.edu, which is the University of South Wales, I believe. He's at the university there. New South Wales, blah blah blah. So I look up this David Biello. He's a reporter, right? Of course, he writes in Scientific American. You would expect him to be relatively... What's the word I'm looking for? Objective. Thank you!

28:21 Relatively objective and he does a podcast called the 60 Second Earth Podcast. Would you like to have a listen to the 60 Second Earth Podcast and some of the views that David... He's only a one minute podcast, it's 60 seconds. Oh, okay. I would love to hear it. Okay. Oh, by the way, he's making money on his podcast. I wonder how. This podcast is brought to you by Siemens. Somewhere in America, Siemens is answering some of the nation's toughest questions. Don't you love it? Oh brother. Siemens! It's like you could not get more corp- Do you think he's gonna say anything bad about Siemens? Seems unlikely. Visit siemens.com slash answers. Doesn't it sound exactly like him? It's no different. He's just- he's just throw that in just for the hell of it. So listen to this report. Yeah, he should.

29:16 This is Scientific American's 60-Second Earth. I'm David Bielo. Your minute begins now. It's no secret that there are more and more of us every day, from less than a billion 200 years ago to more than 6.6 billion people on the planet today, and the United Nations expects more than 9 billion by mid-century. That kind of exponential population growth has consequences for the planet, from stretched natural resources to burgeoning levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. There it is! Ah, burgeoning levels! Burgeoning. What is burgeoning? Growing and growing in a big way. Yes. A new study by statistics professors at Oregon State University finds that the biggest impact a U.S. citizen can have on this climate change problem is perhaps not so much surprising as difficult to accept. Have fewer children.

30:01 By their calculations, every American child born today will add roughly 9,441 metric tons of carbon dioxide. How does he calculate that? How many metric to- John, I think you're- you're producing too many metric tons of CO2, you bastard! All that- all that duck calling is more CO2, you're killing us. So what should we do about this problem, David Biello? To the atmosphere. For comparison, a Chinese child would add roughly one-fifth that amount, while a boy born in Bangladesh will add one one-hundred-sixtieth. Having one fewer child would reduce a family's climate burden twenty times more than driving a fuel-efficient car or using energy-saving appliances.

30:49 It doesn't seem to be stopping anyone. New research published in Nature this week shows that birth rates in the most developed countries are rising again. Of course, who can judge the right number for human population? places that have high birth rates and kind of even things out and just wipe out Europe. These people are, this is a sick mentality. Have less kids. Family planning might be the best measure of an environmentalist and another baby boom could be bad news for the planet. Your Minute is up for Scientific American, 60 Second Earth. I'm David Viello. Thanks for listening. This guy is a eugenicist. He's a eugenicist. He's probably already had a vasectomy, which is the only good news of the story.

32:13 Oh my gosh, I won't even play the other one. Is there another one by him? Oh yeah, I subscribe to his feed. He has tons, I'm not going to play it. It's too much. It's just too much. So anyway. Steven Gray is apparently part of the carbon capture report. He's got some carbon capture action, so he would have a vested interest in the Copenhagen whatever the heck it was, .org. Well of course he'd have, gee you think? Yeah, they all do. This is so corrupt it's not even funny. In the Netherlands we have, I say we have because of course I grew up there,

32:58 We have the Minister of the Environment, Jacqueline Kramer, spelled as in Kramer versus Kramer. And she's, there's another meme that she, and by the way if you look at this woman, if you just Google her, Jacqueline Kramer, she is reptilian to the core. I think she's actually shape-shifting as we speak. You ever run into these people who have a myriad of looks? Yeah, they're shapeshifters. So you see them from different angles and they don't look like the same person and you see them with, you know... Yeah, totally. Those are shapeshifters. Jacqueline... Well, there's something fishy about it. I have to... I'm not going to...

33:39 You're not going to jump on the bandwagon, but you do agree to some... What, Cramer? C-R-A-M-E-R? Yeah, Cramer. So she's spreading the meme, which I guess has been agreed at the European Union, is they cherry-picked. They cherry-picked. It's all about the cherry-picking. Oh no, no. They stole emails, they hacked, and they cherry-picked. It's criminal. Unacceptable. And of course I trust the 12 million scientists from the IPCC. That is our science, the IPCC. Have you got a picture of her yet? Yeah. She's shapeshifter, man. She's reptilian to the core. She looks like somebody else. Yeah, because well, that's the funny thing with her. She looks like someone else all the time. Reuters reporting.

34:32 And of course Reuters gets copied by newspapers all around the globe. It's a wire service. Well, this gets the subscribers three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the acceleration pace of climate change said that the scandal erupted last week over hacked emails from client scientists is nothing more than a smear campaign. Yeah. Yeah, I got that. I love that one. Oh, hey, hey, here's some emails are not going to touch anything here. Read them for yourself. See what you think. Oh, smear campaign. Heaven forbid we should see the facts.

35:09 Dissenters see action to slow global warming as a threat. Dissenters. What is a dissenter? A dissenter also has some associative stuff like deserters or... I don't know. A dissenter is not that bad. I think it's a... I don't know. I'm not going to think about it. So we have the CRU Vice Chancellor of Research, Trevor Davies. He is, so that's the organization that had all these emails that were hacked and stolen and published by the people who will ultimately save the world, the hackers. There's nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU and others on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest quality scientific investigation and interpretation.

35:58 Michael Mann, co-author of Copenhagen Diagnosis, so they're plugging that really hard now, and lead author of the UNIPCC Third Assessment Report, blamed skeptics for taking the personal emails out of context. Aha. What they've done is search through stolen personal emails confidential between colleagues who often speak in a language they understand and is often foreign to the outside world. Almost foreign. Like English to me, dude. Yuck, yuck, yuck. Yeah. Trick is a scientific term that we use in magic. Suddenly. The outside world doesn't know the meaning of trick. Trick.

36:36 Suddenly, all these are subject to cherry picking. There it is. There's the cherry picking. Of course, everything is subject to cherry picking. Who are they trying to kid? That's what news gathering is all about. When you're a reporter for a newspaper and the most objective person in the world, you are cherry picking. That's what you do. You try to boil it down to a few key items. That's cherry picking if you want to use a derogative term for it, but also deep research might be another way. Another term, yeah. They've turned something innocent into something nefarious, man added. The vital point left out being, he said, is that regardless of how cherry-picked

37:15 There is absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into question the deep level of consensus on climate change. What's that? What does the deep level of consensus have to do with anything? Well, I mean, the science is in. That's essentially it. Everybody agrees. Yeah, you are. Al Gore is going to come in. I wonder what she thinks about this. If two- Joy Behar is the other one. If two degrees Celsius warming is to be avoided, by the way I'm cherry-picking from the article, the point at which catastrophic... By the way when did this two degree thing show up as a new meme? It's the new meme. It's the two degree warming by 2090. We're all going to die. And by the way, I'm sure you've followed the icebergs floating near New Zealand.

37:59 No, I haven't. Oh, Google this. Oh yeah, there's hundreds of icebergs that are now floating towards New Zealand and you would immediately think, oh gee, oh my god, global warming. No, in fact, quite the opposite. It is because there has been such a cold snap around New Zealand that these icebergs, every year they drift up north but never quite that far north. And so because it's been so cold around New Zealand, the icebergs are getting close and they're having to warn the shipping lanes. But they've turned this around because, you know, into all global warming. Oh, the icebergs are going to kill us all because of global warming. It's exactly the opposite. So what you're saying is because the water is colder, the icebergs can stay intact longer so they can float further. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And if it was actually global warming, the icebergs would have been melted long ago. They would have been melted by now. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.

38:51 but because of global warming that's why they're there it's like it's exactly the opposite that's okay i mean there's nothing we can do about it This cap and trade thing, I think that's starting to fall apart in the US Congress. Obama's kind of falling apart. Yeah, well that's a whole other topic. Let me do two more things quickly, we'll close off ClimateGate. This is a Dutch report, I really love this one. Sydney, Australia, I'm translating on the fly, Australian scientists are trying to breed sheep that burp less Because of course scientists have determined, the science is in, that CO2 emitted... Yeah, everyone agrees that sheep belches contribute to global warming. And so they're actually working on a vaccine that will be administered to cows and sheep so they fart and burp less. No wonder we're getting tons of money from Australia.

39:56 Between Christmas and New Year's, you want to just go to Australia? Should we just go? Should we just get on a plane and go for a week and just go meet some people and see what it's really like down there? It's something to think about. Seriously, I'll do it man. Mickey's getting for it. How about Mimi? Will she come along? We'll have a blast. She has sheep. Do they burp a lot? I've never seen a sheep burp in my life. Apparently they do. They sound like they're talking. Finally, one of our producers, a female producer,

40:33 I think it's a female producer. I can't mention the name because I was asked not to. My brother-in-law works for the South Coast Air Quality Management District. He was telling me that they are worried that they are regulating themselves out of a job. The air has gotten so much better than when I was a kid growing up in the San Fernando Valley. Anyway, they're looking for ways to stay relevant and are now looking to jump on the climate change bandwagon. They're investigating ways to regulate CO2 emissions. It doesn't even matter that it has nothing to do with air quality. They're looking at extending their regulatory powers way beyond their mandate. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled our air is cleaner and we haven't had a smog alert in years, but this is ridiculous. Once you create an organization, it never goes away. They'll find ways to become more embedded into your lives. Just look at our government. Thank you for the most informative show on the internet. It's well worth $50 a year. Let's face it, we are. We're well worth it.

41:30 If only everyone would get it. Alright, so let's close it. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates. Alright. What else we got? Well, I think that's it. We're done. No, oh dude, we are so far from done. As you know, I'm a proud member of pilotsfor911truth.org. and which I find to be for me personally the best. This is really the organization that got me involved in the Truth or Movement, I'll say it. I'm a truther. Janine Garofalo, come kill me now.

42:11 And so what these guys do is, you know, pilots are very data-oriented. I think we've mentioned before that particularly the so-called attack on the Pentagon has been debunked based upon the actual evidence sent to pilots for 9-11, truth.org, from the black box. Just to recap, the black box showed that it actually rebooted over 30 times in the short time it was in the air, which is not normal, unless of course you're doctoring the data later. And also they forgot to adjust the altimeter so there was the plane that the so-called plane that crashed into the Pentagon and of course left a very small hole and no debris, no typical debris, actually overflew the Pentagon by about 150 feet. So now this is data that they've received under Freedom of Information Act requests from the National Transportation Safety Board.

43:09 And so this is, you know, there's a lot of data that is recorded on these aircraft. And one of the members of the organization, a computer programmer from Australia, looked into some of the data and there is a data parameter in the black box which is labeled FLT deck door, which is flight deck door. Because you know if this is the flight deck is the cockpit and if it opens that will be registered in the black box data Well, guess what John? What turns out? Flight deck door was closed marked on the black box and was never opened somehow however Hijackers got into the cockpit and crashed it into the Pentagon killing everybody on board without the black box detecting flight deck door open that seems weird

44:07 By the way, with everything being pulverized by hitting the Pentagon, coincidentally on the side that was being beefed up. Yeah, and the side that contained all kinds of interesting data about the $2 trillion that was lost, which Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10th. Yes. I wonder where Rumsfeld is right now? In Paraguay. So anyway, how does a black box survive when the entire jet engines were pulverized and turned into powder? Well, of course we didn't find, no we didn't even find the engines. That's right, they're gone. But the black box, of course we did find. And unfortunately every single security camera around the Pentagon, it's tapes and data were confiscated, have never been released. Yeah, that's the only thing that really bothers me. Yeah, well...

44:52 WTC7 won't go away! But that's for another day. Alright, well that's good stuff. Oops, sorry. It doesn't stop! That jingle won't go away. So, uh, some other interesting action around the world. But you know what? It might be time for some real news. Oh, well, in that case... And now, back to real news. So I don't know if you've been following this, but I think it's quite funny because of the early reports. Because I just imagine seeing this. You know what happened with Tiger Woods, right? Yeah, this was incredible. He had some unbelievable accident coming out of his driveway. He ran into a hydrant and then a tree at two in the morning. Was he driving one of those Toyotas with a stuck accelerator? An Escalade, as a matter of fact. Okay, so that... Wow.

45:46 And his wife had like get him out with a golf club and yeah, he's really hurt So yeah, because apparently now that he's talked and they're trying to reconstruct it what really happened is that his wife Confronted him with this supposed affair. He may or may not be having with this other woman Went after him grabbed a golf club and started hitting him with it he ran into the car and then she's bashing the windows in and he He lost control. Apparently he got out to see what she was doing to the car and he left the thing in drive and it went over the hydrant and then into the tree. Where was he? Was he out of the car? I think at the time, that's the latest story. And then so all his injuries are golf club related? Well, and that scratched him. She apparently scratched his eyes out or tried to scratch his eyes out. Now the thing is with this other woman who happens to run a nightclub.

46:43 Doesn't always figure out that way. Supposedly ran in there went to Australia to meet him and they had an affair for a month or something like that I'm not even sure this is true because this look this information looks planted just to get her publicity and when you she's one of those people and I always like to warn people about this Ross Perot had this of anomaly and you'll see it on a lot of people that are kind of interesting in their psychological makeup and She has the big, bulging, oversized left eyeball. Uh-oh. So when you see somebody that has, you know, you look at their two eyeballs and one of them's bigger. Beware. Beware. She got the big, the left eyeball. If the left eyeball is huge, big eyeball, there's something amiss. Also... What is this, John? This sounds fairly bigoted. Also, look for people that have the dead left eye. So you have a normal looking right eyeball, but the left eyeball is like, like half closed and like half asleep.

47:38 I gotta google an image, hold on a second. Wait, Tiger, is, is, he has a white wife? Yeah, she's a Swedish model and these Swedish women don't put up with a lot of crap. Oh no, oh no, they kick your ass. Oh, she's beautiful. Oh my gosh, she's stunning. So wait a minute, so this nightclub, so who has the bulging eye? She wears a lot of foundation. She's a... Dude, dude, dude, stop her. I know, I saw her pictures too. She's beautiful. She's stunning. Ellen. Ellen Nordgren. So it's the nightclub owner who has the bulging eye?

48:14 Yeah. What's her name? She's not an owner, she works there. What's her name? It's in the story there, I can't remember, some crazy name. But she's got the big eyeball. And you look at her and go, ooh. Hey baby, you got a big ass eye. I'm telling you, people should be out there. Ross Perot has one of the biggest bulging eyeballs. I mean his left eye is just big and wide open. I think Ross Perot is actually on to something and that's why they threatened to kill him and give him two to the head and that's why he withdrew from the presidential race. Well he did withdraw under suspicious... He said that, he said that, he said that, you know, I'm not gonna talk about it but I'm getting the hell out of this race. Speaking of two to the head, this is very sad news, sad for us because, well I gotta talk about some UFO shit pretty soon again. Uh-oh. Mark Pitman, the award-winning investigative reporter, who was the only journalist to sue the Federal Reserve about what they did with the two trillion dollars

49:18 which they refused to tell the American public, the owners of that money, died in Yonkers on November 25th, 52 years old, unclear what he died of. Well I guess that summarizes things. Yeah, what's the flying saucer story? Let's get right to it. Let me just play the jingle again. That really, really, really sucks. We have too many 52 year olds, 50 year olds dying of heart attacks all of a sudden. And this guy, he's, I don't know him, I never knew him, but he sounds like an awesome dude. Like a 6'4", booming laugh, you know. He sounds just like he didn't give a shit and just went after everything.

50:03 And to me, I'm just going to call it right now. They killed him. They said, oh yeah? Oh yeah? Look at what you've started. Because of course there's some actual traction now in Congress for this Ron Paul resolution, which I think, by the way, Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd are now hijacking. And they're claiming, oh yes, we're going to audit the Federal Reserve. And of course those pansies will immediately water everything down because they're total shills. But this guy really started the first legal procedure and now he's dead. And even... You think the media would be on this? Defending their own? Yeah, but even Bloomberg says the circumstances of his death are unclear.

50:50 They wind up their report, at the time of his death, Pittman's outgoing messages offered a link to a black and white photo of Woody Guthrie written on Guthrie's guitar, the quote, this machine kills fascists. So he was getting too close. I guess. We need bodyguards, John. No, we got the flying saucers to protect us. And we're not getting too close to anything. All we do is deconstruct what's out there and make suggestions. We're just assassinating what's out there, the actual news that's being... Well it's like this, like these dinner crashers. This of course is the media... That's another real news story. Well yeah, this is the distraction of the week. And I'll tell you why.

51:38 So these are these two people who I guess are doing a reality show for the Real Housewives of DC and they crashed, quote, crashed the Obama dinner which was the state dinner for, what's the Indian guy's name, Singh? I think his name is. I don't know, it was some state dinner. Well, and so of course I see this and the first thing I know is like, alright, so this shit doesn't just happen, you know, you don't just like you can't you just don't get through when you're not on the guest list at the white house ok i don't care i don't care how many times secret service says it was all your rule this will never happen again bullshit absolute bullshit what this is is distraction from the actual news because what is the news and you have to step back and look at the you know look at the fifty thousand foot view the news is

52:34 that Barack Obama and the Obama administration had the, I think it's prime minister? Is that what he is? Of India? The fact that you don't even know this is showing that the disinformation campaign is working because when you have India on your side and you have Afghanistan and Iraq you have surrounded Pakistan and there's this little thing going on called, oh what is it? Led Zeppelin sung about it, Kashmir where there's like a hundred million Muslims, which has been a huge point of contention for as long as I've been alive. This is a huge political move for Obama to be sucking up to India in this manner. And by the way, we've got Blackwater killing people in Pakistan. We've not declared war on Pakistan. We've got Hillary Clinton going over to Pakistan saying you guys are suckers.

53:31 You idiots, how come you can't find Osama Bin Laden? This is really bad. And of course we got some pipeline to lay across that country and some supply routes for the poppies coming out of Afghanistan. So but if you look at the map, go ahead, you've all got Google Earth, take a look at where Pakistan is and look at how that lies in relation to Iran, Afghanistan and India, the countries surrounded. And wait, didn't we have someone who really was trying to bring some change there get assassinated? What's her name? Yeah, what's her name? She got blowed up. She knew she was going to get blowed up. I wonder if she's... Yeah. She's actually the one that said on... Butoh. Butoh. She's the one that said on CNN that Osama Bin Laden is dead, that he's been killed.

54:27 Have you ever seen that footage? Yeah, I have as a matter of fact. It could be you don't know who can tell they got to keep them alive in some sort of symbolic way. Yeah, he might as well be alive for all intents and purposes. But anyway, so that's that's your media assassination moment of the week. Is that we have... So apparently the Warren County report, which is a website that is also a local newspaper out there and where the... and it is in the county where these people live and they have photos of their house and all the rest of it and the big limo which is parked out back. The Secret Service has been combing all over the place. They can't find these two. They've essentially gone either underground or underground. Oh yeah, right. Of course.

55:06 But this will blow over in about a week. Yeah, and because you know what's going to take what's going to pick up the slack though is Obama's going to come out and do his Vietnam moment and send more troops probably not as much as the guy wants. And because you don't want to send as much as the guy wants because if you send as much as the guy wants and then it doesn't do the job, then you can say, Hey, you obviously are incompetent. Let's get you out of here. You send in less. So he'll send in like 30,000 and that way I said, well, I guess I screwed up. We should send in more next time. I mean the whole thing is designed to fail. It's a system designed to fail and to keep us there for some reason in this kind of Vietnam-like quagmire. And don't forget, Obama's the one who says you could take it to the bank that he's pulling the troops out, but I'm saying where's the evidence of that? And by the way, they're turning on him, the far left.

55:55 Bill Moyers is a perfect example of this type of journalist. He's got a huge report out showing what led up to Lyndon Johnson sending too many troops to Vietnam and screwing that up because we didn't win that ever. We had to run and there was all this debate about, oh, we're going to look weak. we're gonna look like we're running there was going to take advantages of the let me uh... let me just say it was anyway let me explain that just a little bit cuz you sent me the link to the bill moyers journal uh... yesterday it's an hour long report and you'll find that link in the show notes and no agenda show dot com career dot com and uh... the war dot org

56:31 And now watch this because what it is is Lyndon B. Johnson recorded all of his phone calls. So this is in the day when we didn't have emails and we had bakelite phones. And of course, I wasn't even born. Some of this is happening in 1963, 19... Oh wait, that was Kennedy still. So this was, yeah, 1963 and 64, right. So just around the time I was born. And it's all of these... And he's on the phone with... What's the... What was the defense minister's name? See this is the problem with history in this country or around the world. They don't teach anyone any freaking history. But John sent this link to me, I watched this thing and as I'm listening to these phone calls and it's put together very well I have to say, it is the exact same playbook.

57:19 in Korea, then Vietnam, it's just like Iraq, then Afghanistan, asking for more troops, what should we do? We have to convince the public, we don't want to look weak, I'm up for re-election, and it's all about I'm up for re-election by the way, because of course Lyndon B. Johnson was put in by default when Kennedy was assassinated. Wait a minute. I have a jingle for that one somewhere too. Coincidence? I think not! So he's put in and then he wants to stay in power so he wants to get elected on his own merits and he's literally saying, well we don't want to look weak McNamara. That was his name.

57:56 And it is exactly the same thing. The general calls for more troops and then the guys on his advisors are literally saying, well you know if you ask for 75 now it's going to be 75 the next time and 150 the next time. It's never ending. And what this is at the end of the day, it is the military industrial complex who are making tons and tons of money. And I'll tell you, you should listen to this. I really want to play this for you. This is from Australia. This is a reenactment of a soldier's letter home from Afghanistan. I want you to listen to what their base is like and what it's actually like in Afghanistan. And when you hear this, you will just get sick to your stomach. Everything you and I hear about Australia's war in Afghanistan comes through the Defence Public Relations Department.

58:47 See, unlike other coalition forces, Australian journalists find it exceedingly difficult to gain access to our soldiers. And by the way, while I'm watching all of that footage and all of those pictures and that Bill Moyers report, I'm like, holy crap, we don't have any of that footage with GIs being shot in their fucking limbs straight blown away and then they're being pulled into trenches and you're seeing dead guys and girls dead dead dead dead dead that's the piece that we're missing here you don't see the camps you don't see these huge compounds of twenty thousand people with starbucks and and Kentucky Fried Chicken and all this money that's our money being spent on bullshit

59:27 Those we do get to speak to never veer too far from the Army PR guide. So while American and British troops are out there publishing their first-hand accounts of the war in Afghanistan, we are, for all intents and purposes, in the dark. Until tonight. This is amazing, I'm just going to play a little bit of it but I also want you to listen to what this Australian soldier says about the Dutch. Unbelievable what he says about the Dutch. To protect his identity, four actors will bring his words to life. What this soldier has to say doesn't appear in any media training manual. It's pretty poorly done actually but it's about the words. So what is it like to serve in Afghanistan?

1:00:17 We've built a whole city. A whole city, it's like a huge place we've built. You never see that. Have you ever seen on the news Kentucky Fried Chicken, Starbucks or Pizza Hut at a camp in Afghanistan? Have you ever seen that, John? Have you ever seen any footage from inside the Green Zone, which is a huge giant city with its own suburbs? They've got suburbs, ladies and gentlemen. It's so big they've got suburbs.

1:01:04 Just listen to this for a little bit. Most of the Australians are working in Uruzgan province. What's that like? That's Uruzgan to you and me. Uruzgan province is a shithole. I mean even the Afghans think it's a shithole. Three things are a constant with soldiering anywhere. Dust, mud, and shit. Coats, your clothes, equipment, skin. The need to shit in the field generates all sorts of personal security and logistics issues that most people in Australia never have to consider. You don't like crapping in public toilets? Try squatting in the middle of a desert in full view of the enemy and your own troops. Hoping they don't decide that now is a good time to start shooting. The Dutch are officially responsible. Listen to this about the Dutch Marines. Now I've been with the Dutch Marines in Iraq, not in combat.

1:01:59 But in a combat zone. Listen to what the Australians say about the Dutch Marines. It just blew me away. For the security of Uruzgan province. Who are in charge of Uruzgan. What do they like to work with? Dutch is an acronym for don't understand the concept here. Which seems an accurate reflection of the Dutch approach to war. They're like high school kids on a school camp. They put a kill box around this particular part of Cora Valley. A free fire zone basically. And they just, they just punched artillery into it. Unobserved artillery, no one's looking at where the rounds are landing. Killed 80 civilians. So, just so you know, um...

1:02:48 So he's talking about an incident that the Dutch Ministry of Defence denies. He's literally saying that they put a toolbox out on the field and pretended to be firing at the toolbox but were missing it and they killed 80 civilians and the Ministry of Defence in the Netherlands denies that specifically in writing. Link in the show notes at noagendershow.com. The Taliban know the difference between our uniforms and they will go out of their way to fight the Dutch because they know they'll get a result. the Dutch will run away or be reluctant to go after them so they like fighting the Dutch. Because you have the experience of Vietnam, you've called this for over two years, you keep telling us this is Vietnam, you for whatever reason you pretend you don't know what it's all about, but of course it is about making money. There's corporations you support every single day, including Starbucks. Starbucks is supporting this company

1:04:02 with your money so they can profit from war. They're war profiteers. What's wrong with a cup of joe if you're in a military situation? What's wrong with peeling a potato the way we think it still works? But you're not actually seeing it. No one peels potatoes. It's flown in. Yeah, flown in. Yeah, I know. Why don't they just send food in from Paris? I love this don't understand the concept here. That's fantastic. You could say that about the Dutch government in general. Not all Dutch, by the way. We've got a really a lot of switched on Dutchies who are listening to the Gouda heads as I call them, who are listening to the show and feel this and live in the middle of Gitmo Nation lowlands. And it's disgusting.

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1:07:14 No, no, no, no, this is just random. We're just oh yeah. Oh, yeah sure it's random So some of these so if you have this happen to you if your sister gets canceled You might want to get in touch with us. Oh, man. I hate that so all real now I have said this many times that we are not making enough money off of this show to really dedicate the reason I mean we have to eat And I'm not making a ton of money, you know, I'm not rich by any... Not anymore. That's what I was just gonna say. I used to be. You used to be. I used to be rich. I'm gonna eat my airplane this year. I'm not kidding. I'm gonna have to eat that sucker. But that's okay because I'm gonna eat it and that's what I'm gonna use to quit my day job. That's what I've decided. You can't even afford to fly the plane anymore. You haven't gone up to nothing yet. I don't have... I have... Since this has been here more than three months, I have not had the time to fly it.

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1:09:53 And demand, demand. Which is about the same price. It's more. The Starbucks. Yeah, well if you. I think it's $3.50 for a coffee, for just one coffee, but if you get like a little thing to eat with it then it's $7. Oh no, you're over $10 instantly. Yeah, yeah. Plus the 10% tax. It really raises me up. I think a parking meter, you can say, you know, whatever you spend on parking meters. And if anybody out there has leftover money in their PayPal account, go check. Just send that to us because you should close these accounts out if you're not going to use them. PayPal is just making money on interest and you're getting nothing out of it. I just want to play that NPR clip one more time. The chairwoman of National Public Radio and what she calls these donations that they get. Okay, moving on to money. How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession? And what about foundation grants?

1:10:44 Two different stories. Underwriting is down. It's down for everybody. I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want. Call it whatever you want. Why don't you just call it advertising because you're influenced by the companies that actually run the world Well now that but they run huge ads for many of these companies. Yeah, how many times have you heard this? The good news is the recession actually behooves us because the cost of living currently until hyperinflation kicks in is is low

1:11:28 So we don't need as much as we would have needed two or three years ago to actually do that. But I'm so deadly serious and I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. You watch. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. You won't be able to talk. Don't worry. It's not going to be stuffed that full. There was a funny blog post on the American, the Enterprise blog, and they showed a graph I'm actually I want to send you this link John you'll get a kick out of it home on the Skype that to you. The show to graph of my son of cabinet appointments going back to Roosevelt's cabinet and the percentage of people in each presidential cabinet.

1:12:19 that has actual private sector experience. Roosevelt was the top. Yeah, Eisenhower had about let's get some perspective here Eisenhower is the top with about 58% looks like people that had in other words not just government lackeys Roosevelt had 50% Nixon had like 53% Reagan had like 55% Some of the low was that here's the lowest one Kennedy. He has people really low. It was unbelievably low 28% and then George Bush

1:13:05 looks like 51 or 52 percent. Then the lowest one, the lowest bar on the graph. Let me guess. Who? The Obama administration. Less than 8% of the people in his cabinet have ever held down a public sector job. Ever? Ever! And this brings me to a wonderful piece of video because this is not exclusive to the United States Gitmo Nation West. But of course now we have the United States of Europe and there's still one guy who I'm amazed that well, of course he's just being ridiculed and called a nut job so he probably won't get two to the head. Nigel Farage, who is always good for a laugh. And so of course he's, he would, by the way if either one of us gets two to the head just make him the replacement. He'll be fantastic.

1:13:59 John. Yeah, he's in. I've got him writing down his email. Just in case. Get it down there quick. So of course what happened is the Lisbon Treaty finally got rammed through. We've been through that a million times even though France, the Netherlands and Ireland voted no, no, no and then there's been plenty of suspicion at best. of fraud for the go around because we know just saying no is enough let's try it again a year later than Ireland finally buckled the Czech Republic got what they wanted they buckled and so now you have the United States of Europe which means they could bring in a president which was not elected by the people

1:14:40 In fact, most of the people that are in this huge governmental body of almost 500 have not actually been elected, nor do they have any real world experience. This is a rather long clip and I think we'll interrupt it from time to time, John. But here's Nigel Farage going off at European Parliament in Strasbourg on the 25th of November. And he actually of course gets slapped down for speaking the truth. You're all very downbeat this morning. I thought this was going to be a big proud moment. I mean it's taken you eight and a half years of bullying, of lying, of ignoring democratic referendums. Eight and a half years it's taken you to get this treaty through and on the 1st of December you will have it. And of course the architect of all of this, Shishkar, wanted from this constitutional treaty for the European Union to have a big global voice.

1:15:31 but I'm afraid the leaders have suffered from a collective loss of nerve. They've decided that they want their faces to be up on the global stage, not somebody from the European Union, and so we've got appointed a couple of political pygmies. So you will have it. He's referring to the Belgian Prime Minister who is now the President of Europe. ...of bullying, of lying, of ignoring democratic referendums. Eight and a half years it's taken you to get this treaty through and on the 1st of December you will have it. And of course the architect of all of this, Giscard, wanted from this constitutional treaty for the European Union to have a big global... I'm sorry I accidentally rewinded a little bit. Here it comes again. ...have suffered from a collective loss of nerve

1:16:19 They've decided that they want their faces to be up on the global stage, not somebody from the European Union, and so we've got appointed a couple of political pygmies. The Kissinger question of who to call in Europe hasn't really been answered, has it? What was the Kissinger question? I like that one. I don't know anything about it, but apparently Kissinger was critical of the EU's organization and made this comment that who do you call if you wanted to, you know, who's really running this thing? I mean, is there anyone, you know, it's like, it's like, you know, when you deal with certain large virtual corporations nowadays in the United States, you want to get a hold of the PR department. There's no way of finding out who they are. You can't get a hold of anybody.

1:16:57 And by the way, you will not see this on television, I guarantee you. I guess the answer can only be Mr Barroso, because he's the only one that anybody in the world has ever heard of and is probably the big winner out of these posts. No wonder, sir, you look so happy this morning. Of course, Barroso, they have multiple, there's like two tiers in the European Parliament and Barroso is president of the commission and these are the guys and our buddy Naley is also on that commission. They actually call the shots, they make the laws, you know, they can sue Microsoft and Google for billions of dollars. They can do whatever the fuck they want basically.

1:17:34 And we have a new president of Europe, Herman Van Rompuy. Doesn't exactly trip off the tongue, does it? I can't see him stopping the traffic in Beijing or Washington. I doubt anybody in Brussels would even recognise who he is. And yet, he's going to be paid a salary that is bigger than Obama's, which tells you all you need to know about this European political class and how they look after themselves. But at least he's an elected politician unlike Baroness Cathy Ashton. Now listen to this one, this is great. Who really is the true representation of the modern day political class. In some ways she's ideal isn't she? She's never had a proper job and she's never been elected to anything in her life. So I guess she's perfect for this European Union. Excuse me Mr Farage. Yes. I would like to put down your postages. You made your

1:18:28 Presentation is enough, boss. The dude from Poland. He's basically saying, hey son, shut up and sit down. We get your point. Shut up! Slave! Okay, please continue. Calm down. But I mean she's never been elected to anything and no one knows who she is. Even the Prime Minister was talking about Baroness Ashdown as opposed to Ashton. I mean no one has ever heard of her. She's even less well known than Herman Van Rompuy. I mean that takes some doing, doesn't it? She's risen without trace. She's part of this post-democratic age. She married well. She married an advisor and a friend and supporter of Tony Blair and got put in the House of Lords. This is exactly how it works. This is what everyone needs to understand. It's all nepotism, it's all connections, it's who you know. And none of these people have been voted in by the actual people who want representation in Europe. When she was in the House of Lords, she was given one big job.

1:19:28 and the job was to get the Lisbon Treaty through the House of Lords and to do so pretending, pretending that it was entirely different to the EU constitution. So she's good at keeping a straight face and she vigorously crushed any attempt in the House of Lords for the British people to have a referendum. So here she is Never stood for public office, never had a proper job and here she gets one of the top jobs in the union. Her appointment is an embarrassment for Britain. But it's much worse, well at least I've been elected sir. Unlike her, she's not been elected and the people don't have the power to remove her. But just hear the next bit. There's something rather more serious than that.

1:20:11 Cathy Ashton was an active member of the campaign for nuclear disarmament. In fact, she was the treasurer of the campaign for nuclear disarmament during a period of time when CND took very large donations and refused to reveal the source. What is known is is that these donations were obtained by a man called Will Howard who was a member of the Communist Party in Great Britain. Dude, I'm gonna send money to this guy. I'm gonna... does he have a PayPal account? He should get some money. I'm just gonna play a little bit more. I love listening to him. He's fascinating. He goes on for a long time but it's all good stuff. You can't say anything but uh-huh, shit, yeah, you're right. Will Baroness Ashton deny?

1:20:58 that while she was treasurer, that she took funds from organisations who were opposed to western-style capitalism and democracy. That question must be asked. And are we really happy that somebody who will be in charge of our overseas security policy was an activist a few years ago in an outfit like CND? I mean, if we really think that, frankly, we need our bumps felt. I don't think that she's a fit and proper person to do this job. She has no experience and unless she can answer those questions, did she take money from enemies of the West? That question must be answered. So what happens, and you can look at this of course it'll be in the show notes, so eventually they turn his mic off. They just turn his mic off. And he's like, alright, shut up, sit down, just be quiet. You're going to ruin our scam here, you big blowhard.

1:21:54 It's all about the money. It's all about the money. By the way, I want to make a correction here. One of our listeners mentioned that you said public sector as opposed to private sector. Private sector. I got a little over excited. I'm sorry. Obama has 8% of people that have ever worked in the private sector ever. So we can expect a lot of positive things for the economy. Yeah, because they really know what they're doing. They've really got the experience. We've got the best people in there. The best, the absolute best people are in there doing the job. It's a tough job. We got to call tough shots. And of course, you know, who's advising Obama? You know, the Republicans are trying to make hay with this bowing incident. Yeah.

1:22:39 Yeah, he went to meet with Actually, he's done this a couple of times but the one that's got the most legs is the meeting with the Emperor of Japan who's standing upright and shaking hands like a normal guy with a suit on and Obama bends over like he's kowtowing to this guy and some kiss ass. He's like, please don't screw our dollar, please, please But it's Japanese, they're not going to screw the dollar, they're already screwed. I mean there's no reason for them to be doing this and so they're trying to get the bowing thing in and if anyone wants to get a kick out of something, go read Peggy Noonan's last editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

1:23:14 She doesn't ever mention this bowing incident, but she keeps putting in the word bowing into her text. So yeah, he's bowing to special interests. He's bowing to that. It's actually quite funny, even though it's pure propagandistic move to get bowing and Obama linked. Yeah, there's also some great footage when Obama was in Russia. and he and Medvedev are saying hello to the cabinet. Have you ever seen this YouTube video? It's phenomenal. No. What does he do? So they're going down the... What other gaffe does he pull? Hold on a second. Let me just get it for you. Obama-Russian handshake. I think that's probably it. Oh, what happened here? Okay, here it is. So essentially, none of the Russians

1:24:08 We'll shake his hand. Hold on, let me just grab this for you. It's like 12 seconds and I'll add it to the show notes right now. Hold on. Check this out, John. This will trip you out. None of the Russians will shake his hand? No, no. The whole... and you see Obama keeps sticking his hand out and they're like... and they shake Medvedev's hand every single time but they won't shake his hand because they have no respect for him. Take a look at the video. So he's literally, and you see his face go, oh crap, oh crap, oh crap, as he keeps sticking out his hand and none of these guys will shake it. Wow, yeah. I mean that's, that's like massive disrespect right there. Yeah. Massive, massive. Well after, you know, maybe it's because he bows to everybody and they figure what, you know, maybe should have been bowing to them. So, um, where was I?

1:25:01 You were talking about the guy in England who they cut the mic off. Nah, I was already done with him. Now I was going to move on because we're kind of running out of time. How about the Human Rights Watch stuff going on in Uganda? Oh, I don't know about that. Yeah, apparently this is unreported, you know, underreported news again. Apparently a group of the Ugandans have decided to pass a law or they have a law under review and the Human Rights Watch website has some of the best stuff on this. The law would, essentially if you're a homosexual with HIV, you can be executed. But it makes it even worse, if you know somebody's a homosexual, you've got 24 hours to report them. Or you get four years in jail. Or you have to report if you know someone who has AIDS? No, it's homosexual. So you've got four, you've got

1:25:52 24 hours to report them or you get four years in jail. And they have another one, if you're complaining about this law, if you complain about this law as being like idiotic, you get seven years in jail. Okay, hold on. Let me just knock Uganda off the itinerary for our trip, John. Not on the list. It turns out that there's apparently a number of Christian organizations in the US, namely, but they're all they're very fringe groups. Probably want the same thing. They're supporting. Yeah, there's a bunch of people. Of course, of course. Kill the gays. Yay! Perfect. But like nobody is covering this anywhere.

1:26:33 So I mentioned earlier that, do you have a link for that John? I want to include that. Yeah, I'll get you the link. It's a human rights watch in Google and you'll get their website. They have the best stuff on. There's a bunch of news stories but they tend to be a little slanted. Human rights watch is quite good for these kinds of things. In fact it's a good website to visit every so often. So as you know, and as we've played multiple clips on this program, there is a movement within the House, originally led by Dr. Ron Paul, the congressman from Texas, who everyone joked about, but boy, he sure gets some airtime these days because he called it. He called the meltdown, he called all the bullshit that's happening, he continues to call it, and so it's the Audit the Fed bill. And of course, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke, said, hey, you know,

1:27:23 doing this could seriously impair economic stability in the US and of course he's not lying which is which the funny thing about it is a Bloomberg report because if we actually knew who they were giving the money to you know like the two trillion dollars that the Bloomberg reporter got killed over If we actually knew and we said hey hold on a second that is out of order Indeed the financial system would come crumbling down because it's a big sham. It's a huge scam And and we're not a part of the game and someone asked me the other day and said, you know So, you know, why are they doing all this? And I said, it's very simple They just want to get as much money as possible right now buy up all the real stuff like land and things

1:28:15 And then if it blows up, they got that land and things and some gold or tungsten or whatever they might have, but it'll look like gold. And they're getting the hell out of Dodge. And so this is not going to happen within a year, I don't think. It takes a while to accumulate all this property in Paraguay and on the aquifer where you won't starve for water and on and on. I have a couple more things because the main thing that happened in the global markets this past week was Dubai. Oh yeah. Dubai of course... I'm proud to discuss this with Horowitz this week. Yeah, because Dubai of course, you know, there was all this money going into Dubai, it was going to become the new Disneyland. We have discussed Dubai and Janine Garofalo pointed this out correctly.

1:29:12 that there's an entire underground sex slave trade, gambling, drinking, all kinds of... it truly is Disneyland for the rich. But with all the financial troubles that have gone down, they are now about to default on an $80 billion loan, I guess simply said. And of course all kinds of countries are in Dubai, including, and there's a link in the show notes, the European state of the lowlands known as the Netherlands. They will lose hundreds of millions of euros. When this default default takes place, so I think it was on Friday the markets were going nuts every you know The dollar was all over the place everyone was like freaking out because this will have severe ripple effect all the way through to commercial real estate in the United States and conveniently

1:30:04 conveniently while all of this trading is going on and people are freaking out the London Stock Exchange hit a trading glitch. Oops! I'm sorry the system went down for a moment. Please no more trading. Don't place your bets. So they pulled the plug because they were all freaking out. Yeah well you can do that anyway. Yeah but just to show you how big this really is they pulled the freaking plug. And of course and I'll just say it this is This is, you know, outfits like Ted, which I've always had my doubts about. You know, they had that Ted X and they have all these, they franchise this money-making deal, which is, you know, supposed to be like some, ooh, special invite only deal. They had that in Dubai. So it's, just shows you, shows you who's all linked up with that crap. So our Canadian listeners should be on the lookout for a 24-part CBC series coming out

1:31:07 My son pointed this out, on the distrust of and blind faith in science. 24 parts on unscientific distrust of and blind faith in science because of the, you know, the stuff that we talk about a lot where we have, you know, there's just, there are skeptics. I mean, a real scientist is a skeptic. Of course. And there were skeptics who said, hey, you know what? I don't think the world is flat. I don't think the sun revolves around the earth. These were skeptics who in their time were ridiculed. and probably put to death. But then they go off and they discovered like great new lands and all these fantastic things. Galileo was excommunicated and he was only recently absolved of it just like 10 years ago or so. Would that be posthumously, John?

1:32:01 Yeah, posthumously. I think so. I don't know. No one teaches that shit in school anymore. Is Galileo still alive? We should check on that. Google that. Check his wiki page. So that should be an interesting thing to watch, although it seems like you could be able to summarize it a little better than 24 parts. Well, they got to keep you busy. Is that a commercial? No, it's a state run, right? CBC? Yeah, it's run by the Canadian government. It'll be very interesting to see. From Gitmo Nation, the first report came in from the Netherlands. A lot of Dutch news today, severely underreported, but all of a sudden last Wednesday, Russian bombers were overflying the Netherlands at 25,000 feet, which by the way is, you know, and we're not announcing themselves to air traffic control. May I just say as a pilot, not a good idea because, you know, 25,000 feet there is some traffic at that level.

1:33:00 And so they had two F-16s intercept and they've asked some questions in Parliament saying, hey dude, what you doing? Of course, you go research as I tend to do. Same thing, Russian bombers overflying the United Kingdom entering their airspace around 25,000 feet. So what the hell is going on? Why are Russian bombers all of a sudden entering our airspace when if you fly over Russia, you get the shit blown out of you. You get taken down. I know. I know. This is interesting. Yeah, one of our producers... We're just testing the systems. Well, one of our producers... See how lax we are. One of our producers sent me a link and I think I know what's going on.

1:33:48 When Obama was visiting Canada, the same thing happened. Russian bombers were entering Canadian airspace. I have a feeling this may have something to do with Copenhagen. There's also a huge distrust on the part of the Russians of global... because of course all of the... just to summarize, all of this cap and trade, all this swine flu stuff, it's all about bringing in global government. And many people may think that's great. We don't happen to subscribe to that. I think you can't really make laws for sovereign countries who have their own cultures and John, you've mentioned this many times. You look at the history, even our own United States, we had civil war. It's just not that easy to get a whole bunch of people over a large area to agree on things. We have different cultural backgrounds and upbringings and traditions and we want to do things differently.

1:34:41 And if we have global governments that mean all, just like Uganda, oh that's a good rule. Yeah, you got to report all gay people. I mean, could it come to that? Quite possibly. So the Russians are definitely against this global government. At least that's what it feels like. because the Russians have been attacked so many times by these maniacs in Europe. You know, Napoleon goes in there and tries to kill everybody. You know, Hitler goes over there and tries to kill everybody. So they have these, so they create these buffer states during the Soviet Union era because they're just, they need some, some, you know, a little, you know, some buffer. You know, some people, you first got to kill all these Polish people before you can get to Russia. The point is, is that the Russians are paranoid.

1:35:39 for good reason. Yeah, I think absolutely. And as particularly when you hear this, I promised on the last show on Thursday I'd play this for you. This is the new president of Europe, Herman van Rompuy. I agree with Nigel Farage, it doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it? Who of course is also a Bilderberger. Listen to what he has to say. The position to which you have just elected me is a new one. I shall take office on the 1st of January 2010. The Lisbon Treaty wanted to instill greater continuity and coherence in the work of the European Council of Heads of State and Government. Six monthly presidencies had the advantage of involving all 27 member states in the work of the Union. The disadvantage was a lack of perspective. It's my firm intention to ensure that our work develops over a long-term period.

1:36:46 A perspective that goes beyond six months will allow us to be better organized where the major multi-annual dossiers are concerned, such as the financial perspectives and the Lisbon strategy. You hear that? So they're pulling together all the finances and what do you think that's going to lead to? I also think that going back to our roots in the European Council could help us to discuss from time to time In an informal and open way, the big questions of the European project. I'm thinking more specifically of the economic and social agenda and this is a particularly urgent matter.

1:37:26 because of the environmental and energy challenges. Here it comes, now listen very very closely. Now you're going to understand how environmental issues and how pandemics are used to bring in global government. He's going to say it right now. This is not a secret, but you have to listen and oh gee, you might not have seen this on television. And the aspirations we have for greater security and justice for all our fellow citizens. We're living through exceptionally difficult times. The financial crisis and its dramatic impact on employment and budgets, the climate crisis which threatens our very survival. A period of anxiety, uncertainty and lack of confidence. This is of course is training your brain. So we're going to die, we're very uncertain, we're very afraid, right? Yet these problems can be overcome by a joint effort in and between our countries.

1:38:25 2009 is also the first year of global governance with the establishment of the G20 in the middle of the... Did you just hear that, John? Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it? I heard him say global governance. That sounded to me like global government. It sounds like it to me, too. It's interesting he would use that term. Yes, let's see if he mentions it again. Financial crisis. The climate conference in Copenhagen is another step towards the global management of our planet. Yeah, that's what we want. We want global management of our planet. You know what? I'm all for cleaning up our shit. I'm all for living cleaner and healthier and have more love towards each other. But it doesn't seem like these guys are doing a very good job and they're doing it through lies and deception.

1:39:15 Lies and deception. Yeah, this is what I always ask the big question when somebody sends you spam where they trick you they lie to you to get you to open the spam you're gonna do business with them. What are you crazy? Yeah I mean, it's just a simple logic. If they're going to be a bunch of sleazeballs, which apparently is the case, and the thing is, of course, nobody covers any of this or that. I never heard this, this little ditty that you found. And it's, you know, the guy just basically says global governance. We're just going to run the whole damn thing. Screw you. Yeah. And of course, the whole European Union was a trick because I lived in Europe when they said, hey, you know what? Wouldn't it be a smart idea if we made all of Europe

1:39:54 kind of an economic place, we all had one form of money, it would be much easier and of course everyone goes, yeah shit yeah man, I hate having to translate all that, you know the francs and stuff and the pie, it's all difficult, I don't understand. If it's just one monetary union, unit which is what it was called and still is the European Monetary Union, yeah unit. The EQ I think. The currency, yeah the EQ. Yeah, well that made sense to everybody. But all of a sudden you turn around and 15-20 years later you wake up and wait a minute, we got a president? Now we're the United States of Europe? Well that wasn't how it was sold to us, it was a virus. And everyone was asleep, everyone was enjoying the movie.

1:40:37 And then you wake up and all of a sudden something completely different is taking place. It was not just an economic move, well that was a big part of it, but it was really a political move and the people who are running the show are not elected. They were not in general, not elected by the people of these member states. These internationalists have been at this since... And they're doing it, they're getting away with it though, they're finally doing it. They finally have found a new trick and they've gotten so far and the idea of course is to put your buddies in and take as much, just basically steal money from as many people as you can, make the big group bigger so you can steal more money. and then push people around and create like an internet, it's basically one, you know, it's the dream of one world government that you can dominate. And why are you against this, John? Because a lot of people say, you know, I'm kind of, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Maybe we should all come together and sing Kumbaya and hands across the USA and we'll fix everything. These guys will fix it for us. Why would you be against that, John?

1:41:38 Because they're incompetent boneheads. They're tricksters. They're not interested in fixing anything They sit they have a good they talk a good game But in fact to them is they just want to take money and they just want to steal money It's just the what Hitler did I mean Hitler was like taking over areas But what was out stealing every piece of art he could get his hands and by the way Hitler was loved He was loved when he came into power Yeah, he was. Yeah. And he tricked his way in. He never really got elected. I mean, he got elected to lesser offices and kind of took over the place. But the fact of the matter is, this kind of thing, I hate to bring Hitler into it, but the fact of the matter is you run into these despots, I mean Stalin, Napoleon, I mean there's a whole slew of them, every country has one or two. And they would love to just boss everybody around, steal all the money, take all the art, put it on their walls, and you know, screw you, and then how is this helping anybody? This isn't helping the poor. It's not doing anything.

1:42:37 So, uh, I think that woman is a good example of the house of Lords person who's never been elected then. Married Tony Blair's best buddy. So, what I think we should skip today, John, just so we can get the show over. Because I'm tired. Are you tired? I'm actually tired from this one. There's been so much, it's like, ah, I think we should probably skip the swine flu minute. Oh yeah, I think the swine flu minute can pass any time. I think we've done more than our share of swine flu stuff. Yeah, other than there was just one piece of video that may be kind of funny to listen to. Well, so there's a couple things that I actually do have to say.

1:43:24 Reuters is now reporting that it looks like we're going to get the adjuvants in the swine flu as the FDA is now actually evaluating new swine flu vaccine from Novartis which includes adjuvants and there's even reports out there saying, hey, you know, did America make a mistake somehow by not including adjuvants? I like the way they twist that. Yeah. November 17th, Novartis announced today new interim data from ongoing clinical trials demonstrating that a single 7.5 microgram dose of the company's influenza A 2009 unadjuvanted vaccine, half of the currently approved US dose, fulfilled immune response criteria associated with the protection in adults of the elderly,

1:44:20 And they're talking about adding this, so basically they're saying, hey if we can only add our adjuvant MF59, we can use, and this is exactly what we predicted on this very show. And I actually said if I was right you'd have to give me $5,000 but it's okay I'll let you slide. $5 a month will suffice. What they're going to say is, oh, you know what? We can't get it out fast enough. So maybe if we use half the amount of our antigen, that's the actual virus, and then add the adjuvant, we'll be able to get everyone inoculated really, really quick. Yeah, we did. We had predicted this. I don't find it that interesting anymore.

1:45:02 Well, on Thursday I shall take you down the new path as I kind of understand where this is actually all going. I'm going to leave that as a little teaser, a cliffhanger as it were. But I do have some pretty detailed research on what the end game is for the swine flu vaccinations. It's a little surprising, but when you hear it, you'll go, aha, okay, now I get it. And it has to do with the war on terror. Oh, why not? Yeah, of course. We really appreciate you showing up to the mosque of the media assassination for this program, early service. We need to get the megaphone out on the tower there, John, to announce the show every Sunday. That would work. And we appreciate your donations. We need them. We really want to do a lot more, including the third show a week, which is... it is in my future. noagendashow.com, dvorak.org, slash NA.

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