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00:01 Whose side are these people on? Home to the Supreme Leader. From Chicago, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where night has fallen, even though it's in the morning someplace, I'm John C. Duvorak. It's Craig Vaughn Buzzkill! In the morning! and happy poppy day to you john you know they have this thing going on in canada too it is so first of all happy veterans day you know i come from a long line of uh... people who have served in uh... the military and uh... other forms of government service so uh... happy veterans day to y'all pre-sheer so what so i do think whatever the media offices open and is it uh... is a day when what's on a it's not a government building yet

01:06 It's a government holiday, the postal guy wasn't working, the banks were closed. I had to go to the bank today, click, click, click, the bank was closed. You're such a bonehead. Hey, by the way, talking about that, so I'm watching the C-SPAN like we do for our producers. For our entire audience, yes. And I'm watching C-SPAN and they're discussing something or other, and it wasn't interesting, but they said, for good reason, they said... Of course, it's C-SPAN! This is like on Tuesday of this week, they said, the Senate and the House of Representatives will be taking the rest of the day off

01:44 on uh... at noon on tuesday to celebrate tomorrow's holiday and they'll be off for the whole week you're shitting me no they took the whole week off so basically they worked monday and a half day tuesday and then they're off That's an outrage. So what are they running on C-SPAN now repeats? No, they're running, you know, yeah, we're not repeats but you know really a vague committee meetings There's one I was watching I was saying what am I watching this for is about the cemetery at Arlington and how they're gonna finance it It's just terrible. So it was pretty interesting that one of our producers pointed out that Veterans Day falls on Poppy Day and it of course it hit me like a laser beam to the forehead and

02:26 Like oh, of course poppy day. This is the way they celebrate Veterans Day in the United Kingdom. In fact, it is so Such a national scale that you can even buy they have these paper poppies and everybody wears them kids old people young people and they don't even know why obviously they're just like a give me one of them poppies, but how ironic The irony is just outrageous that we are celebrating Poppy Day, the actual plant that we are guarding in Afghanistan for the harvest, which is any day now once we get our 48,000 troops and can ship it all back stateside and get everybody high! How ironic. It's one of those little gags they like to play. That's exactly what it is. They also have these poppies for sale up in Canada, I was just in Edmonton.

03:14 And the poppies are just like for the Royal Mounted Police Fund or something. But they sell them everywhere. There's like a dollar you get and you stick one on it. Right. How come they don't do that in the States? They thought it would be really too blatant if they did that in the States? Like, come on, man. We can't do that. They used to have something like that, but I can't. When I was a kid, I remember there used to be something like that, but they... I just disappeared one day and I don't remember when or how or... much about it anymore just but they used to have something similar by the way we should introduce today's executive producer who was our ex oh yeah that's right we have more than one correct we have co-executive producers because of the amount they gave nice we got okay but the first one is William Arcand from Dracut Massachusetts and he actually gave us two donations which totaled three hundred and eleven dollars and ten cents crap thanks David

04:03 William. Yeah, that's what didn't I say William? You said David. I think William I'm sorry. I'm taking two to the head myself. So William is one of the executive producers and he will be mentioned and he can use it on his resume. and the other one is Nelson Kunkel from Edwards, Colorado who gave us $250 and I felt that they should be co-executive producers and that's where they're going to show up as two names on the website and again like they can put it on their resume, they financed today's show. Finance in its entirety pretty much and we highly appreciate it. John would you please put those two names on the Skype for me so I can put them in the show notes at noagendashow.com? Yeah.

04:49 Because of course you have to put it on your resume, well you don't have to but I think it would behoove you to put this on your resume. Hey I produced or in... uh... what's the second owner's name i'm spacing today man nelson canals right so william it william can put on his uh... on his cv i was producer of no agenda episode one hundred and forty seven and uh... and of course uh... than this co-producer credit which is a it doesn't as good as producer credit and it looks good on the resume you know it back that i think all producer credit looks even maybe a little bit cooler Because you know it means you didn't have to do all the work, you just put the money in. Neither one of them did that much work. He said, well you had to go to the site. I got some woman in Russia.

05:34 who can't get on my devorek.org slash NA so I'm gonna have to put the link someplace else even though I got it we got a donation believer and I will talk about it later from Russia cool but this woman is also from Russia but she's from a different part of Russia where they obviously have my my web address blocked and this is being happening all over the world by the way the the internet is hardly what it was supposed to be yeah of course oh yeah it's it's happening the scam I before we get into it I two things I wanted to mention one is some feedback from one of our producers

06:12 Hey there Adam, just wanted to drop you a line or two. First of all, I love the show, love what you're doing. I try telling my friends and family about some of the stuff you discuss and they look at me like I'm crazy. The Lisbon Treaty for example, swine flu another example. I'm even writing a paper in one of my classes based around our shared views of the swine flu conspiracy. However, I'm a starving college student, my only sustenance being rice cakes and peanut butter and the shitty food they provide for us at the cafeteria which actually has laxatives in it. mouth-watering isn't it? I guess that's for another show. I would love to donate just don't have the means I'm sorry hope this emails encouragement will help you morally keep up the good work and I'm sure to donate as soon as I have the funds. Another thing about a week ago I heard John say his son was in favor of the RFID chip implants and that quote everyone our age is. Hell no!

07:04 I will never get one nor allow any of my family members to get one. It's the most perverted and egregious breach of civil liberties conceivable. The day the government makes implanted chips mandatory is the day I move into the woods of Washington State in a secluded cabin, Ted Kaczynski style. Minus all the bombings and stuff. So I just wanted Teddy Edwards to get a shout out there, John. And just so you know that they're not all like your communist son. Well, there you have it. who's doing a fine job at me via by the way yeah he seems to be into the uh... the you know the for me my son's an intern there and it would be a dish for people want a little background he uh... you know i see this about you said you can you give me an internship and i said probably and that a first one of the first thought i'm thinking you know we are interns by the way yeah they pay well for interns for sure but any and the use and of hiring which i think is even

07:59 more interesting. But anyway, so I first immediately walked him over to the production side of things saying, well, you know, he probably wants to learn how to use the TriCaster and he wants to produce shows and he wants to do this and that. And it was like, and I was talking to Nick about, well, I can probably get him a spot. And then I said, it dawned on me, I said, what is he, why do I want to put a kid in some, no offense to you techies, technicians out there, What really amounts to a dead-end job and no future? Didn't he graduate summa cum laude something or other graduated summa cum something but anyway, so Now so I said I thought that said wait a minute What about moody because because the real future for and this is a recommendation for people out there want to get?

08:46 you know, want to think about what they want to do in the future. SEO, you know, software engine optimization. Once that's on your mind, you can get a job anywhere. Search engine optimization. Yeah, search engine optimization. Yeah, yeah. That's the gig you want right now. That's the big one. Yeah, and it's like black art. uh... nobody you know everybody does a difference is so and it's like it's a bit much in demand and uh... you know if you people are doing it and there's a lot of time hard it's not hard if you know how a search engine works and use you keep up with some of the forums you can figure it out it's not hard at all does not harbor this is but it's a moving target yet well yeah it's it's a it that's what's beautiful about it it's kind of an art you know and and what value do you put on our kids were crazy person will pay for it

09:34 Anyway, so when I thought I said this is what am I thinking? You know put him in Best boy Hey, we should have it. We should have a best boy on our show. We need a best boy Yeah, we need a best way so we need a gaffer to this before I need a gaffer and I need a fluffer I I need well you need a fluffer Yeah, that's for sure. One other interesting piece of feedback from Rick de Hart, I'm sure, Decker, I'm sorry, Rick Decker from I'm sure the Netherlands. And he caught up on, I think it was actually last week, we've talked about this before, how your brain cannot process the word not. It can't process a negative. So instead of saying, don't forget to buy the milk,

10:25 You will of course forget it because your brain processes forget to buy the milk. So you need to say remember to buy the milk. And he said, wow that's really interesting when you look at the Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not murder. Thou shalt not commit adultery. That's a pun and no one's ever mentioned that before. Thou shalt not steal. I mean, that's like, it's like awesome. This is like the code to make us do all this nasty shit. And like they say, only sinners go to church. Bada bing. I wish I had that. So talking about sinners, I want to just bring up something that is a subtopic, because just before we started the show, I was watching, I was forcing myself to watch Hannity.

11:08 And why do you do that? I mean C-SPAN is rough enough. Hannity's, well because I you get because I you know we every week we talk about this that but the two different to the lefties and the righties or they have their little issue that they have that week to keep people distracted and this week the well it's it's it's still for the Fort Hood massacre. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but now they'll let the right the righties I got the Fort Hood thing But it's like he all the signs that he was a Muslim crazy man. Oh nobody knew what we predicted the president started it with his soft like Defending the country boa and now it's all this Muslim shit, and it's gonna be right in time for the

11:49 uh... for the patriot act to be signed again when they get back from vacation i got a couple clips that can have a show you the way and some of the stuff now the antler the left these are all concerned about the blue dog democrats and how they didn't vote for health care as if it didn't pass and uh... they're kind of all upset about that was interesting to watch these two sides but but i don't think that got my attention was Hannity's going on and kind of dismissing as crazy and stupid and all these other things regarding the AMA who came out saying that, hey, this marijuana stuff, maybe we should rethink it, maybe it is something that could be good in the medicinal setting and blah, blah, blah. And just as soon as I saw that, I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute,

12:36 Again, are these supposed to be conservatives that want government out of your life and want personal responsibility, but are really for all these drug laws? I'm not quite getting the connection between saying that you want personal responsibility and saying you want government out of our lives but acting as though there is no personal responsibility, thus we need all these drug laws and B, we want the government to have the DEA and all the rest of it and the war on drugs and all this other stuff. What am I missing here? Because it's all the same people running it. We call them Democrats.

13:20 but they're running all parts of the media it's just a big game is just to keep you occupied in in fact you fell into the trap you you like must watch hannity uh... because it's too fast it's two five zero on uh... on the dish network i i know i know two zero five i think was it that i would advise you i mean i was horrible i know the number as the last watch and i work from two fifteen Which or 211 is what I work from I always hit 211 and that takes me to see and then yeah And then I can to roll down and I start going through that you know all the crazy stuff I know exactly what you're talking about. We are so pathetic however pathetic or not we do have a formula our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth, and I gotta say John It's a formula that is effective and and I feel like hitting a few people in the mouth today

14:16 Well, you're in Chicago. Well, that must bring out the worst in me. How is Chicago, by the way? I haven't been there for a year. As we say, it's colder than a witch's tit. Is it cold? It was freezing when I arrived. Actual ice on the cars. Yeah, it's very cold. Very, very cold. But there's business to be done. That warms my heart, Johnny boy. So, did you go out to dinner, have some good time? There's a lot of good restaurants. And Chicago has actually become a very much of a mecca for foodies. Let me think. Well, last night, no. I basically had... I bought five extra inches on my United flight.

14:55 I'm sorry? Yeah, it's actually this bill does get about an extra five extra inches for $49. That's a stupid couple rows they have with an extra five inches. It's well worth it. I tell you it is well worth it. The extra five inches. So I had the classic box It's like could you poison me anymore? I mean, I'm already in it's just a bunch of starches and salt not even it's it's not it can't be qualified as food It's a box with like chemicals and you know, I might as well have a jail with it. Well, there's nothing else There's nothing else to eat

15:34 You have tomato juice that tends to fill you up and you can get to the flight alive. I got into the hotel at 1.30. I'm going to wait for room service until 2 and then be eating until 2. Stop at the bar. The bars are open until 2. So I'm at the Glebe Hotel. It's one of these boutique hotels. It's a cool hotel by the way. Yeah, well thanks for telling us what it is. The Saks Hotel. Never which is right next to the house of blues and so it's a you know, it's an old building that they redid it's it's now a boutique hotel and so you walk in at 130 in the morning and the lounge is the bar is open and so, you know, you're checking in it's like There's no one in the bar, but there's a DJ again And

16:32 and there's a DJ playing, there's no one there. Not a single solitary soul. If there were some chicks I would have gone in, and there was nothing. So I had breakfast and a burger for lunch. Yeah, well those things are past their years. And I had macadamia nuts when I got back. I haven't even had dinner yet, and here it is. It's 9.04 in Chicago. Doing the show, doing it early, the way we like to roll. Yeah, we don't like to get it done. Yeah, getting it done. But if we have to do it at a different time, we prefer to do it early. That way people who are expecting the stream, they can at least listen to the show in the morning, even though it's not. Yeah, well, the show is also in the morning somewhere. So let's go to some clips since we're kind of stalling here on I don't know what.

17:21 I just want to talk some shit. I mean I got plenty of... Let's not forget... Let's remember to talk about V. But we can do that after your clips. Oh, V! We can do that after your clips. That's right. I made you a dub of V so you could watch it. By the way, when you make me a dub, would you mind just burning it as a real DVD and not like an AVI on a DVD disc? My son did it. Oh, well that sucked. And we tried doing it the other way. We tried burning it as a DVD. Yeah. Because we had the AVI and it would turned out that it was it wasn't working right on a Mac or something. He's a Mac user. He's Mac. Well, so Mickey and I wound up sitting on the couch with a chair in front of the couch with the laptop, you know, like leaning over watching the whole show.

18:07 It's not very cool. Especially when you have a huge flat screen with surround sound. Oh, you know, it played on my DVD fine. this is the uh... the setup that you you recommended i buy so i didn't have anything to do with what dvd you you uh... purchased the athletes you do because it was built into the uh... the sound bar that you thought was cool well that was a blunder then uh... i have a dvd writer on my tv set i recommend that every year and because the thing is is that often you want a clip or you want something you need a

18:43 You know, you want to record a show or your DVR is filled, or you want to make something for a friend and say, hey, did you see the show? And a DVD writer is great. And the DVD writer also seems to like a lot more formats, which is probably why he played an AVI native and yours doesn't. Oh, by the way, before we get started with the clips, I have some very sad news, John. And yeah, I'm not joking around. So we have our two pigeons, Fred and Ginger, who have of course laid eggs, or as John would say, eggs, in the window sill. We're on kind of the second floor with the containment cell there right off the deck and I've been feeding them. And of course we hatched two pigettes. We still don't know what chick pigeons are called.

19:32 and so we named them Oatmeal and Granola because you know for what I fed them every single day and I was so unfortunately Mickey called me with the news and we were waiting for them to fly and of course they're on the ledge two stories up and I guess today was flight day and Oatmeal didn't make it. She's down at the bottom dead? Yeah. And granola was down. What about the other one? Yeah, granola was okay. Granola was okay. Granola flew down with, we think, ginger. It's kind of hard to tell them apart. And they were, you know, sitting around going, ooh, ooh. That was sad. So I guess that's why nature makes two of them. I guess. Yeah, it sucks though. Well, at least it wasn't eaten by a crow. No, no, no. Mickey picked it up and she was like ready to call the... Did she bury it?

20:22 I haven't asked what she did with it. Yeah, she probably picked it up and buried it. This just proves the two of you are kind of nutty. No, we're not nutty. Actually, she said, I rushed down and she was French. She would have eaten it. Exactly. No. That's mean, John. The bones are still soft when it's young. And she said if it was breathing she would have taken it to the animal hospital. They would have said, what are you thinking? It's a pigeon. I know, but we love them. Anyway, so we'll have to see how Granola does. But oatmeal was also the smaller of the two, so I think it was just like fly day and it just wasn't ready or something like that. Yeah, it was a runt. Yeah.

21:15 Well, I'm sure everybody listening in is fascinated by this story. Well, no, the people appreciate that. We've got our vegan in residence who always wants to hear about the pigeons and he'll be sad. I guess vegans are sad at the drop of a hat. This is true. All right, flip time. So I don't remember what the clips are. No. Oh, I got one. I got a Christina clip. You gave us a story about Christina being harassed. My daughter, yes, being harassed on the train. Yeah, well, here's a local version of the same story.

21:51 Do we need to set it up with Christina's story? Nah, it's just a news story from the newspaper. You'll know what it's about immediately. An Amuni station agent could face battery charges following a fight with a couple of passengers. Happened this evening at the Embarcadero station. The agent apparently asked a young woman for identification because she had bought a juvenile ticket. The woman said she was 17 but failed to produce any ID. The agent wouldn't let her and a friend board the train. Police say that's when the fight broke out. Investigators right now say it appears the agent was the aggressor in that case. Both the young woman and the agent were taken to the hospital with minor injuries. Oh yeah, oh yeah, totally. These days we're so programmed, and this of course is all done, it's mass mind control. We're so programmed, the minute you get a uniform,

22:35 Then all of a sudden you got like some magical power. Like you're wearing Superman's cape. Not this. Yes! I am the boss. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. It's my train and you'll do what I tell ya, dammit. Yeah, it's out of control. And we worry about political correctness. She punched the other person out. Nah, you don't have any ID. I'm gonna kick your butt. Yeah, it's my train. No ID, no service. No ID, get off my train. Now if anybody that was really even I mean somebody comes in with a youth fair and she's unless she's an old woman Who probably has a another kind of fair they could do there's no reason to be even questioning them Just don't go on what are they saving a nickel? Yeah, and 50 cents and by the way that train is so high-class It's so worth it. It's so clean and so so pristine and lovely and

23:31 And what are they charged? It's all the rest of the muni crap in San Francisco. By the way, ladies and gentlemen out there listening to this, if you happen to have the unfortunate belief that San Francisco is some great tourist town, which it is if you like being hit up by bums every couple blocks and the grime in the street and the fact that the parking is 25 cents for five minutes, literally, and that's And that's a fact. They have probably the worst public transportation system in the world. These things are dirty, people are getting beat up constantly, there's one assault after another. Do not take public transportation if you come to San Francisco, ever. And the cabbies, by the way, will rip you off. Rent a car. And on top of that, they're building the world's biggest bus terminal on my doorstep. Yeah, for what reason?

24:20 It's an amazing construction, I tell you that. Just an amazing construction. Anyway, so avoid San Francisco. Hell yeah. If you want to go to some, you know, Seattle's a pleasant place. Or, you know, heck, go to Paris. Or Australia. Go to South America. There's all kinds of cool things to do down there. Yeah, you should really not be hanging out here. Why did I even consider coming back, I question. I don't know. It's a mystery to me. John, before you forget, we, my friend, you and I, this very program and when we win we will of course thank all of our producers by name it'll be an entire show we just it'll just be the acceptance speech award we've been nominated for two podcast awards and I'm quite proud of this because I was nominated for the very first podcast awards which I think was five six years ago and I won best produced

25:18 And this year, No Agenda is nominated for the, quote, the general category, which I mean, can you imagine Academy Awards where it's like, and the Academy Award for the best general movie goes to, what the hell is that? How dumb. Best general. But of course I'm proud of the People's Choice Award. We're nominated in that category. Yeah, well either way, I think we should win both. Hell yeah! We didn't get anything for Best Produced with all these jingles and things we do? I mean, we definitely should be getting someone else. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

25:58 All that all that we need to get the ball cancer thing in there I'm gonna work on that one. Yeah, could you cut it with the with the applause? Could you? Could you cut the ball? Yeah? It's not funny man, it's not funny. Yeah It's not funny as a matter of fact, but before we get to it, sometimes it's better to make light of things. Just make light of horrible. I am like that. Whenever someone's dying, I can't help but crack jokes. Whenever there's something really messed up, I go into it. I know it's a way of dealing with emotion, but I'm the guy that goes into joke-making mode. I just can't help myself. And sometimes it cheers people up.

26:44 I doubt it. No, it does. Here comes Curry again with some more one-liners about my gallbladder. When my mom used to do that, it'd be like when she was dying of lung cancer. I'd say, hey mom, how you doing? She said, oh, I'm doing great except for the fucking lung cancer that's killing me. I loved her for that. That was funny. Come on, it's funny. Old women can do that. So what other clips? He wasn't old, dude. That was the problem. She wasn't old. Wait, what other clips you got? I see your black face seems interesting.

27:20 Oh yeah, this is... yeah, yeah. This one is interesting. This is a story right there from your neck of the woods, Chicago. Chicago! Over WGN. Apparently at Northwestern University there was some sort of a Halloween thing and some guys put on blackface and it became a huge scandal in Chicago. But the thing that's interesting is the commentary by the reporter I thought was fascinating. Okay, and this is from WGN? Yeah. WGN? Is this The Loop? No, this is the world's greatest newspaper, WGN. It's a newspaper? No, it was owned by the Chicago Tribune for years and they own this TV station and WGN stands for world's greatest newspaper. You watch that?

28:02 I have it, it comes on the Dish network. Oh, and dude, you know, we are so underpaid for the amount of work you do personally, John. This is a fact. Well, pictures of white students in blackface at a Halloween party sparking anger and debate among those in the Northwestern University community. WGN's Julie Unruh is live on the Evanston campus. I just got to stop. I love the way she pukes it. You know, yeah, she's like yeah, well white students of black faces of anger and controversy and lots of discussion over the university Let's go to the we've got a rabbit that was a good dad tonight as we're hundreds gathered to discuss it tonight to discuss Julie Hi, you Micah. There was a huge turnout here at you. Hi you know, I think her name is hi you Micah. Hi, you Micah I think she said hi you you know, some people say hey, how you doing? Hi. Hi you really isn't her name you Micah?

28:53 I thought she said hi you Micah cuz you know all these news chicks are they're like all Katie Chung's hi you Micah hi you Micah okay well you Micah there was you Micah Or maybe, yo sister! Tonight, hi Julie. Hi to you Micah, there was a huge turnout here at Northwestern to talk about exactly what happened on Halloween night. To be specific, sounds like two students dressed as Blackface, a racially insensitive character, really a throwback to the 1800s. Whoa, whoa, hold on a second, let me get that sentence again. No, it gets better. So, dressed in blackface, really racially offensive throwback to the 1800s. Wasn't actually, wasn't this vaudeville still taking place in like Sammy Davis Jr's day in 1930s? Okay, I'm sorry. Students dressed as blackface, a racially insensitive character, really a throwback to the 1800s when white slave owners would mock their slaves. Now, the day after... This is not true! What? Bullshit! This is bullshit! Are you talking about, you dumb woman reporter?

29:53 Julie, Julie, you ignorant slut! I mean give me a break. It came out of the minstrel tradition is where it came from. That's what I mean. Just let's just take like take the remote possibility that white slave owners would go into blackface to mock the slaves. Are you kidding me? Hey, let's go mock the slaves and maybe they'll kill us in our sleep. Here's some coal. I got an idea. I have a thought, let's mock them. We have not humiliated, whipped them or beaten them enough. We need to mock them. I was watching C-SPAN the other day. They had a documentary on Sammy Davis Jr. and you saw him in blackface. And he was born in like, you know, the late 30s, I think. Blackface only ended in probably around 1960. Yeah. It's a throwback to the 1800s. Queen Elizabeth was in blackface.

30:52 Do you... Can you... I mean, do these people just make it up as they go along on these news shows? And of course there's no question. Nobody says anything. And the woman, I believe the woman who's the anchor is actually black. No. She could have said something but she doesn't care either. Her name is Waiyumi. That's impossible. Oh, hi, why you me? Why you me? Hi, why you me? How'd you get to hi, you me? I don't know. Let's listen to that. That was a beautiful, a beautiful piece of prose. This is, and by the way, the same woman will report on actual news coming up. Racially insensitive character, really a throwback to the 1800s when white slave owners would mock their slaves. Wait a minute, let's look at Wikipedia. Maybe that's in Wikipedia.

31:36 Oh, it could be. Let's see. That's where they get most of the news background stuff. Exactly. If anybody hasn't noticed, by the way, Wikipedia is the source for today's mystery. Let's see... Oh! Blackface is theatrical makeup used by white people to play black people. In the United States, where the practice became popular during the 19th century, so that's the 1800s, it became associated with certain archetypes of American racism such as the happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation or the dandified coon. Here it is! Blackface was an important tradition in the American theater for roughly a hundred years beginning around 1830. Yeah, it was because they couldn't...

32:21 Use blacks for the minstrel shows even though there was actually one black troop I saw there was a special on PBS about the minstrels and there was actually a black troop that did go around but for the most part it was white entertainers that You know stole material by the way, and the blacks always complain about this with good reason you guys are stealing our material It's true So anyway, but not to mock them It was white slave owners and it wasn't theatrical folks, it was white slave owners. I mean who comes up with this? Did she just dream this up out of the blue? Does it get better? No, it's the end of it. No, no, there's more. There seems to be 29 seconds left. Oh, it's just a bunch of crap. Yeah, play the rest of it. The day after Halloween back here in Evanston, images like the one we're about to show you.

33:13 I'm amazed she didn't say Halloween, which of course is a pagan festival which dates back to the 1700s when plantation owners used to mock pumpkins. Or news about it was spreading like wildfire across the campus. At least one of the two students is reportedly an athlete here at Northwestern. Oh no! Oh! Which means he's a good guy. You shouldn't be doing that. He's reportedly an athlete. Can't you find out if he is one or not? You're doing the story. He's reportedly an athlete with flu-like symptoms. Encouraging tonight's forum on the subject. Says the students using what was that? I don't know little piece left over from last night tonight's forum on the subject Says the students using very poor judgment did not break any rules Excuse me for now Sorry, I'm losing my voice here for now. It doesn't know you know honey. You're losing your mind Okay, just losing your voice, and you should be losing your job

34:08 That's a good one, John. That's cool. That's the correct women. WGN stands for World's Greatest Newspaper. So how did they hire this bonehead? I'd like to know where she got this impression. You know, I get the sense there's a lot of people out there that actually Do they pick this stuff up in high school or somebody said something? You know, you're in the liberal not to complain about today's school or educational system that Obama's supposed to do something about he's done nothing. But you know, most of the schools are extremely liberal. I mean, my kids, I had to put them in private schools and homeschooling because it was out of control, right? Yeah, because they come home and it would be what are you talking about? Which all of them or? Yeah.

34:58 It was like Columbus was a horrible person, a slave trader. Martin Luther King is the one who freed the slaves. Misinformation, crazy ideas. By any chance were they taught the Constitution in school, John? No, why bother? The Constitution, which reportedly dates back to the 1600s, is known as a piece of paper with a bunch of signatures on it. So I assume that this woman probably heard about this thing about blackface from some teacher who just threw it out there and she remembered it because she I don't think she just dreamed it up she must have heard it.

35:43 and then so but she uses it as part of a repertoire which is like what are you talking about this is the like that would be the thing we pointed out recently where the woman went on and on about how the Chinese and Mexicans built the railway way this is why we call it a media assassination because the only way we know to wake our our fellow citizens of Gitmo nation up is to expose what is going on before you that you let seep into your brain every single evening for hours on end. You let that shit take place. You have to stop it. Stay off the TV. Turn off your TV.

36:23 Absolutely. So we're going to go with some media assassination. I got one here that's kind of interesting. It's actually, I think it's... You want to... We got two more clips. You want to do some other stories before you blow through all the clips? Well, since we're on a media assassination thing, I think this is... Okay. This is going to take us to the shooting at Fort Hood. Okay, good. This is my favorite Fox guy, Shepard Smith. And by the way, I have to say this because I think this guy is an out and out douche. Hey, that's a very hip word for you to use John and And I have to say though that I you know, there's a lot of people that don't like me personally They they don't like my style of writing. They don't like the way I don't know you and there's people that don't like you Because I'm a dude I'm just a dude. Wait a minute. Wait a minute There are people who actually know me that you know who don't like me. I

37:15 No, not really. Everybody's in love with you. No, no, no. Come on. Tell me who is it? I don't know. Well, Leo. Wait, does he... How can you say he doesn't like me? You don't know that for a fact. I just think he doesn't like him. He's always saying nasty things behind your back. Oh, well, that does it. Anyway, it's beside the point. So put on some black lace and mock him. The point is that there are people you just... People don't like me, people don't like you for whatever reason. There's just like some personality quirk or you just don't like the person. You don't have to like everybody in the world and I don't care if a bunch of people don't like me. No, I don't want everybody to like me. Absolutely. No, and maybe some people aren't going to like you. I mean, some people don't like me and that's just the way it is. I don't like Shepard Smith. Hello, Kettle? This is the pot calling.

38:05 I don't like Shepard Smith and it could be just some sort of prejudice I have because he looks like a Southern Baptist preacher and talks like one and he's full of crap. Right on. So I have a couple of clips. uh... there's their come in different or i have a might probably have in reverse order but it's about the the shooting and there you guys will play the one that says the play first and we'll go over this is a long clip that you're gonna have to interrupt a lot it's it's it's him getting uh... uh... at the run down big they've uh... of the uh... shepard smith shepard smith is the ryan seacrest of fox that's a slightly what it is that's what he is that i can like ryan seacrest

38:46 I do two in a way. But these kind of no talent guys and Ryan Seacrest is very successful. He's got a huge radio show in Los Angeles. He produces half the shows on E! And the guy on The Soup always takes the piss out of him, which I like. And he takes it, you know, because he's... Yeah, I think he's got a good personality. He's got a good sense of humor. He takes all that shit about his height. And he's making dough. And he's doing... Gosh, this guy's loaded. Yeah. But Shepard Smith is kind of, I don't know exactly what he does, but he reminds me of Ryan Seacrest. So it is the Ryan Seacrest of Fox. Let's hear what he has to say about the Fort Hood shooting.

39:36 So this of course is the meme that's being spread and in a way I like it but of course it's horrible and not true is that it was due to political correctness. Well we didn't want to seem like we were profiling the Muslim guy. Because you know well we thought he was kind of weird but you know we didn't want to like upset the Muslim community. Months before the attack at Fort Hood, Catherine Herod's with that part of the investigation live in Washington tonight. Catherine, what's that all about? Well thanks, Shep, the Associated Press is citing an unnamed military official who says that... Lovely. That's reporting right there.

40:16 An unnamed, citing an unnamed military official. That, could that be like, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Words matter ladies and gentlemen, listen to the words. That by the way doesn't sound very Muslim at all. That's not how Muslims talk about their faith. True Muslims don't talk in a belligerent, irritated manner. They don't. It's all about love. The doctors overseeing his training at Walter Reed discuss their concerns about Hassan's behavior. NPR is also reporting further action was blocked, according to the doctors they interviewed, largely due to bureaucracy. According to the doctors they interviewed, let's not tell you which ones either. It's apparently difficult and a lengthy process to expel doctors in the military, Sean. You know, there was a lot of talk today, Catherine, about who was at fault here or there regarding any missed warning signs.

41:14 This is great. This is fantastic John. So now we're going to get the warning sign so we can spy on our Muslim neighbors. Yep, but not only that, but there's a kicker in here that will blow me away. There's one of these kickers that goes, oh brother, this is a good one. Listen to their lame excuse. Go on. Well, that's correct. Multiple investigators familiar with the FBI's review. Again, multiple investigators familiar. I mean, could you just tell me who? Give me some names. The Hassan emails sent to that radical imam say there was not enough in those messages to launch a full investigation. One government counterterrorism investigator tells me, had we launched... Another counterterrorist investigate. She knows a lot of people, John. I'd love to have her Rolodex. It's all Mr. Smith.

42:04 A lot of S's. It's bullshit. Had we launched an investigation of Hassan, we'd have been crucified because the mail suggested he was looking for spiritual and religious guidance. We couldn't launch because of First Amendment privileges. Well, there it is. No, stop. There's no First Amendment privilege when it comes to that. Wait, let's stop and analyze what she said. Let's listen to it again to make sure we get it right. Back it up. Okay, here we go. There is an investigator tells me, had we launched an investigation of Hassan, we'd have been crucified because the mail suggested he was looking for spiritual and religious guidance. We couldn't launch because of First Amendment privileges. But they're already reading the guy's email.

42:46 Yeah. They're reading the guy's email. Don't you have some protection under the Constitution for that? Apparently not if you're in the army, but it's beside the point. Just listen to the structure of this whole argument. First of all, we have something called the Patriot Act. You can pretty much do anything you want, investigate it in an investigation or you can investigate anybody you want. You can arrest anybody you want at any moment. You can do anything you want. So this is bull. This is just an out and out lie. I don't even know if she's making it up or not. And then they throw in this little

43:22 needle about the first amendment the first amendment and of course Shepard Smith says nothing about this like don't you think we should be protecting the first amendment well apparently not because if the first amendment can go by the wayside then we won't have these incidents anymore whose side are these people on? John C. DuBois acts pet peeve of the day The source adds that Hassan's emails were vetted and shared quote within the appropriate chains but they would not explain who it defends and at what level Shep. They're coming to get me. Heh heh, good. Yeah, Shep, yeah, Shep, well that's it, Shep, I have all these sources who I can't name and ehh ehh ehh. Your s- your source told you more about the real- Your source? She doesn't have a source, she has a makeup woman. Hair and makeup people, she doesn't have sources. Substance of these e- emails, right?

44:18 Well, correct. The emails are characterized to me this way. He, Hassan, appeared to be at a moral impasse, facing a moral dilemma, who was reaching out for advice from that radical imam. This sounds like I'm listening to Law & Order. These are actors. They're reading a script. They're reading from the script. It's completely made up. There's just no sources. There's no information. No one read the emails to her. And apparently there's no constitution. And this government counter-terrorism investigator also suggests that Hassan may have had other suspicious contacts telling me no one missed anything or connections links to Al-Qaeda to nefarious individuals and all nefarious. Well then why they have an investigation?

45:06 Well all of this presumably will come out in the review both at the FBI and within the military shot a lot of presumably allegedly Unknown sources this show stinks So when it gets worse, you know what I'm about ready to go take a flu shot Ready for it. I don't want to be on the same earth with this woman So although it's all that all the Wall Street bankers are getting flu shots. I think that's just desserts Anyway, that's right. Okay. So now now it gets even funnier. I So we go from this bogus report, which wants to get rid of the First Amendment because it seems to be what's in the way of everything. This is no good! The First Amendment! We could have stopped this census killing!

45:55 So yeah, and the way they did that subtle First Amendment thing just that's really I mean I was just I turned red when I heard that I'm thinking this is Fox the Democrats, you know this phony baloney network. So I love your Freudian slip Fox the Democrats your Freudian slip is great. It wasn't Freudian. So anyway, I buy into the Theory so let's go let's go to the next Shepard Smith clip now this one here it did you have to actually watch it and it is hilarious but but you know this is the whole thing at the and it was a lot of it not allowed to interrupt now you can interrupt but they are telling when that when they let it go to the end and the reason i get the end what's interesting at the end of shepard smith

46:38 is handed a softball to ask a question about. A huge, absolutely, I never heard this on any other network that, it's just like, here is something very interesting, let's follow up on it. What does he do? He doesn't even notice it. This is how bad this guy is. It's like a Nerf ball in slow motion is what you're saying. It was like, yeah, exactly. Now, the setup for this is they apparently somehow got into this guy's, this shooter's apartment. Uh, and they looked around and they saw these things like a thumbtack and a chair. Oh no! Sort by sources say a very suspicious chair with a thumbtack upside down. Play the clip. In the living room we saw a heavy duty paper shredder. Oh no!

47:30 Clearly to destroy evidence. ...was left open. Any trace of paper had already been removed. Next to the shredder, we saw prayer mats. On the kitchen table, we saw foreign currency, coins from... Were they in my apartment? It's not a prayer mat, it's a yoga mat, okay? It's not a prayer mat. Something I gotta mention is that these prayer mats are like two scarves. I mean, a Muslim prayer mat is usually a pretty nice little rug. It's a beautiful rug, yeah. It's not, these were like, it looked like two, two, Scarves! I've got prayer mats, oh my god. I'm telling you this is my apartment. Foreign coins, paper shredder, I got yoga mats, so they look like prayer mats, I'm sure. They could be, I mean, we don't know what you really do. Exactly. And I've got a sex swing. Kitchen table we saw foreign currency, coins from Jordan and Israel, and a book entitled Dreams. I've got foreign currency from Zimbabwe. I am dangerous.

48:29 And interpretations also in the kitchen a stack of papers that were turned upside down What a report I'm sure people are seeing they go like shit, honey, honey, yeah, yeah, he had foreign coins and upside-down paper stack Yeah, that must mean something. I'm sorry for it to be southern when I do that, but that's just the stereotype. I am a slave owner mocking, I'm a northerner mocking the southerners from the 1800s. I'm sorry, I apologize. And a green lockbox was left in the kitchen sink. In the bedroom we saw a new DVD burner, but no signs of a computer to operate it.

49:17 It's probably your son John this bogus DVD burner in the utility room We saw a shoebox full of vitamins and medication. Oh my god, including prescription drugs Hassan had prescribed for himself and filled at Walter Reed and another clinic at Lackland Air Force Base What was it Viagra and on our way out? We noticed a closet that was taped shut with a note that read do not open until December 25th What is that? It's an idiotic report. Okay, I'm gonna let it run to the end now. Yeah, let it run to the end. And Shepard, the medicine inside that shoebox included cough suppressants, medicine to fight off bronchitis, and other medication to treat HIV, Shepard. His lawyer was speaking to the- So that's the softball, obviously. He's not listening, John.

50:12 He's reading ahead... They have HIV drugs. No, Shepard Smith is already reading the script for the next segment. He's already memorizing his lines. Play that little bit at the end again because the way he shoves it off to another topic is just hilarious to me. It's amazing. ... and other medication to treat HIV, Shepard. His lawyer was speaking today. What did he say? It's completely... This is a script. His lawyer is speaking today. What did he say? The guy has AIDS. Yeah. And this isn't brought up by anybody at Fox? This is kind of interesting. Don't you think it should be at least questioned? Or there should be some aspect of this? I mean, it just doesn't, you know, there's... I don't know if it means anything, but it sure is interesting. It's more interesting than the paper stack turned upside down. No, I thought that was pretty good, man. That's some real production right there.

51:09 yeah this this whole thing is uh... at the first of all it is the distraction do you or it is not right but i wait yeah but it's not just a distraction is the catalyst for the uh... renewal of the patriot act and i'm convinced that this is exactly what's needed to bring in another forty eight thousand troops into afghanistan and which i want to talk about later as well but i don't sound but those poppies are going to be rotten here pretty soon so seth uh... who was a former soldier and fort hood resident and one of our uh... producers uh... sent me a transcript of a snippet from the or riley on fox

51:50 Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, who is a Fox News strategic analyst, was on the show and I'll just quote, Bill, we just need to get a grip on this and put it in perspective. Very straightforward. What happened yesterday at Fort Hood was the worst terrorist attack on American soil since 9-11. It was committed by a Muslim fanatic who shouted Allah is great and gunned down 44 unarmed innocent soldiers and civilians. So I wish I had the clip, but I think I did a pretty good job. This is probably as good as the clip. So that's basically the message. Of course we talked a lot about the weapon that was used and we've got to figure, you know, if there is, we have noagendaforums.com and what I really appreciate is instead of sending John and I email because it becomes a real problem. There's so many people listening to the show. For instance when we said, hey,

52:41 Can we get someone to do a lo-fi version of the show? Well, you can get this show now in just about every bit rate, every encoding algorithm you can imagine. Except there's no way for me to gather all the information other than I will have one link in the show notes to a lo-fi which was requested by one of our what Australian listeners I think who had some dialogue. Some guy in the middle of nowhere. uh... but you know when when you when you are weapons expert and i highly appreciate it put it in no agenda forum dot com that's really where the information can search at the follow-up stuff yeah so the weapon hassan used quote used according to sources was the fn five seven handgun

53:23 I thought it was an AR-15. Well, the thing is, part of the problem is the reports are so messed up. I mean, I read an M16 was used, which is what we discussed on the last show. So now they've all decided it is a small handgun, the 5.7. It shoots 5.7 by 28 millimeter rounds. By the way, it's not a clip, John, it is a magazine. uh... capacity and you know the magazine and has a clip well he's look i'm not gonna i'm not gonna argue with our producers he says technically it is incorrect technically it is a a gun as expert would call it a magazine all right capacity of twenty rounds

54:07 And of course the media made a big stink some time ago about the 5.7 by 28 millimeter being around capable of piercing body armor. So none of that type of ammunition is for sale to civilians. John also mentioned high-capacity magazine well he called them clips were illegal for civilian purchase that's no longer true since oh the expiration of the erroneously named assault weapon ban in 2004 interesting so this could actually be spun to get the assault weapon ban back on track ah that's a good one that's a good one that's why they that's why they just threw in the in the five seven oh they use this ammo but still the amount of damage I mean wow

54:51 for a handgun. Have you ever shot a handgun? Have you ever, I mean just like, of course you have. You know that shit ain't easy to hit something. That's not true. If you're reloading and you're basically blowing down one of these guns, you can hit people easy. He reloaded three times. Well this is the thing that I don't get. If you go to the range and shoot a lot, you get pretty good at it. But the fact of the matter is they say that this guy didn't even like guns and he didn't shoot much, but meanwhile he's slapping magazines in and out of this thing like a pro, like it's like somebody like on CSI, you know, and by the way, why are CSI guys so good with guns? Aren't they just supposed to be crime scene investigators? But anyways, beside the point.

55:35 It just seems to me that you look like you're on, you know, you're some professional, the hitman, shooting up the place. I don't know, this whole thing stinks. He's a patsy and there were more people. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's horrible. It doesn't matter. The people died. The people died. It's all to get the Patriot Act. We ban all guns. It's just, why do they have to go, I mean, why don't they just, well, they have to go killing people. They gotta go killing people to get their way. That's the thug way to do it. That's the Chicago way. You know what? I'm not getting what I want. Here, bitch. You know they had you know the fact of the matter is if you remember a couple we did this on the show a few about a month ago they had this terrorist in Chicago that was gonna blow something up and then they had the phony baloney terrorist and Fort Worth it was suckered by the government agent to blow something up and it didn't blow up of course because the guy was just obviously mentally retarded and they managed to talk him into doing a bunch of stuff that proves he would have blown up the building if he could because he was a dummy and

56:37 And so that got no traction. It was just like, oh, two terrorists, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now let's talk about the two terrorists, domestic terrorists, you know. domestic threat or whatever the term means. They haven't labeled this guy yet as a domestic terrorist. That's coming next probably. There's got to be some labeling going on with this guy and there's going to be a few more things. I mean the thing that pushes him home. Homegrown terrorist. Homegrown terrorist, yeah. Homegrown, that's right. So the guy is apparently awake. By the way, by the way, to use the word homegrown is also, you know, since homegrown also means people who grow their own weed. Marijuana, yeah. Do you want to give it, make it, want to put as much bad spin on that term that you can because if marijuana is ever legalized, homegrown is going to be bad marijuana.

57:26 Oh yeah, of course, because it has to be the legal shit. Oh by the way, there's one more thing about this guy. When they went through his house, they said he had coinage from Jordan and Israel. What is he doing in Israel? The Muslims don't go to Israel. They don't like Israel. Well, he was obviously... Nobody's asking about that either, so what am I even bringing it up for? So apparently the guy's awake. He's off the breathing apparatus. Yeah, they're gonna have to make him die or something. I've already played the sound effect too many times. It's going to be... Unfortunately, they couldn't talk to him because he already succumbed to his injuries or some shit like that.

58:06 No, I can't imagine this guy getting loose. Joe Lieberman said Sunday he wants Congress to determine whether the shootings constitute a terrorist attack and whether warning signs that Hassan was embracing an increasingly extremist view of Islamic ideology were missed. There you go. It's in Congress. Thanks, thanks Lieb. Thanks Liebie. Good job, dude. I mean it totally sucks what happened, but what's coming out of this is messed up. Yeah. Meanwhile, the whole thing stinks. Something really good happened. A bunch of people were killed in this action and I just find the whole thing distressing. There was some really good television that I unfortunately missed. Because I'm a big fan of this idea and unfortunately we don't really do it right or do it enough. You remember John Allen Muhammad? He was the trunk sharpshooter.

59:03 so yeah right the guy that was in the trunk and i was in dc shooting a suit to a killing people killing people right yeah can you and of course no we were doing the show back then otherwise i'm sure we would come up with some conspiracy that it wasn't this guy or whatever however uh... he was convicted and he was sentenced to death by uh... lethal injection and larry king live carried it live They had the camera live on the scene and everything and they waited for the guy to come out and say that he had died. And I keep waiting, why don't they just put the camera in the execution room? Oh, we're one step away. Yeah, well, I'm telling you it's huge for the ratings. Oh, I knew, I predicted this 20 years ago. I mean, you and I probably both have agreed on this. We've talked about this. Yeah, we've talked about it. This is huge. Why don't you just get it over with TV people. Yeah, put it on. Realize that you're a bunch of slime balls anyway.

59:55 And do this, do it, get it over with, the public will love it. Besides that it might actually be a deterrent to crime. Yeah, when you see someone flopping around. They have this big argument about, you know, the death penalty is a deterrent to crime, it's a deterrent to crime. Then show it on TV. It's not a deterrent if you don't see it. Yeah, you gotta see that needle going in, you gotta see the guy flopping, struggling for air. You know and and we should have a live studio audience and we should have a little applause sign flashing. Maybe they can rate the death. Yeah That's right. No, no, no. No, oh dude even better. It's a reality show. It's death row and you get voted off

1:00:31 And we get voted off. That's right. You're saved. And we can have Ryan Seacrest host it. He'll be like, I'm sorry, Muhammad, you've been voted off this week. Well, time to strap him in, everybody. Strap him in. Strap him in. It'd be perfect. I think it'd be better with the electric chair though. That's supposed to be really gruesome to watch. Yeah, because your eyeballs pop out and shit. And brown goo comes out of your mouth and you shake a lot. So if you're thinking to yourself, wow, these guys are on to something, and you'd like to hear more of these fabulous ideas, perhaps three times a week, hey, John, tell them how they can get it.

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1:04:20 uh... and then we had uh... some woman who's anonymous that uh... said that she's good don't she keeps donating she says that she's doing it uh... for doug adams the late uh... author who actually i knew Would he have liked this show, do you think? He'd love this show, although he's a little... Yeah, I think he would because it's enough of... it's anarchic... anarchistic enough for his... For his taste. Hey! He has an amazing sense of humor. There's the 752. Yeah, 752's going by, hauling people to Sacramento. Right on time. James McLemore, Nashua, New Hampshire, 5225, a palindrome. Yes.

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1:07:18 So, 8461 I guess. Matthew Stroh, Holly Springs, North Carolina gave us $54.46 and he says that the number has something to do with toots and the maytals. What? That's what he said. Toots and the maytals? Yeah, 54.46. I think somebody else did that once before. Anyway, finally, Marco Iacono. I'm sure it's pronounced Iacono, I hope. Another New Yorker, New York City, it's like two from New York City, $50. Because it's finally hitting in New York. In New York the crunch is on, people are out of work, condos are, electricity is, you're not going to hear this, you know, Shepard Smith is not going to bring you this news, but let me do it for you, okay? My sources have told me

1:08:01 That condos in New York City, they're turning off electricity, water and other essential utilities because the condo companies are broke and they can't pay the bills. Commercial real estate is standing empty. Pretty soon we're going to have homeless people breaking into offices and living there. If you've never seen Escape from New York, go rent the DVD because that's what's happening. It's coming to New York. You know, squatters, that's what they do. You go in, you find a building that's vacant, you just move in. Hell yeah.

1:08:39 You know, you can get the gas light, the gas lamps, you know, the Latin lamp, the one that uses a mantle. The lights are on. Most of these empty buildings, the lights are still on at night. Not for long. Not for long. But you know, if they kill the lights, I mean, usually they're not going to cut the gas, maybe they will. But you can bring in little stoves and stuff. You can get by. You can have other lamps. You can have battery-powered stuff. You know what you do is you take your laptop, you put it in the abandoned building and you use it until the battery dies and you go down to the New York Public Library, charge it in the library while you're surfing the web. Well you're reading and then you take it back and you got you know enough juice. You can't be surfing Dvorak.org in the library though. I think you're banned. No, I don't know. I'd have to look and check. I'd like somebody to tell me if you can go to the New York Public Library and if my site is blocked. So I have to say my heart feels good John. It feels like we got a lot of donations this week.

1:09:33 Yeah, we did. We got our amount pretty much what we need to get and I would encourage other people to donate in any way you want. I mean you can give us what's left of your PayPal account or you can subscribe to the $5 a month thing or you can give us a a big donation uh... fifty dollars or more you get mentioned that where you can give up two hundred and get a uh... you can get it because she's not for your bio go to the black dot org slash n a or no agenda show dot com and i click on one of the links to the paypal account and that we're gonna send a set up a google and some of the other money collection of countries you know stop threatening Stop threatening, please because people complain that they don't like PayPal. I know I'm a little slow on the draw. You got Dutch Have you have you read that white paper? I sent you I Can't know that it's breaking up Adam. Did you read the white paper? I sent you about getting things done No, you know I have it, but I didn't have to get to it. I

1:10:32 So I've been using the system now for three days, no four days. I love it. You've been using it four days the last time we talked about it. No, I was using it one day and I'd already remembered to get the milk. You said three days, I think. Okay, then it's a week. I've been using it for a week. I love it. It's absolutely working for me. I love it. Alright, I'll start a program on Monday. I love it. You could actually, you can try, I think it's the site is called don'tforgetthemilk.com. I use that. Yeah? Well, I have don't forget the milk calm on my Google calendar well Maybe right but maybe if you read the just read the first pair the first the introduction to the white paper That's all you need you're a smart guy. You'll get it. You'll know how to you'll know how to apply the system. Okay? It's worth it right after the show is over Yeah

1:11:21 Thou shalt not kill. I just want to mention everybody that we really thank you for especially the lesser donations the bigger donations everything in between but just go to no agenda doc no agenda show calm and Dvorak org slash na and again keep this keep this going and when we win our People's Choice podcast award we will thank every single person who was donated to the show they'll take up a couple shows no we'll just do one whole show where that's all we do we can do that as an extra We could do it as I put on a CD. Okay. I know my name's in there somewhere. It's in the second hour. Hey, there was something I was sent. I don't know if you blogged this. I don't think so because I didn't see it anywhere. It was one of these esoteric CNBC shows.

1:12:13 And they had a... I'm sorry, are we done with all the donations? Yeah, we're done with the donations. I want to thank everybody again. Yeah, and I too thank everybody. Awesome. And on this show, let me just open it up here and I got to talk for a second while it downloads and crunches the Skype connection. This is probably one of the nighttime shows. Of course, no one watches CNBC at night. Or maybe very early in the morning which also very very few people watch and they had on the show a guy from Seattle a

1:12:50 I guess a capital fund manager nine points capital partners. Have you ever heard of them John? Nope, okay Just listen to so of course gold has gone through the roof We're now eleven hundred dollars plus and we started talking about gold when it was about eight hundred dollars on this show 18 years ago and uh... he says and this is on cnbc i have you seen this could john you know what i'm about to play no i had no idea that your chief investment officer nine points capital partner singles live out of the seattle of washington i didn't answer uh... hedge fund in which he has basically do is uh... you try and catch breaks into the up or downside apparently with all of the first of all

1:13:34 It's like who do you think is watching morons? Please explain the hedge fund you guys basically try to catch the upside or the downside dude, isn't Isn't that what NBC... Yeah, thanks dude. Alright, thanks. Appreciate... A stock means you have a share of ownership of a corporation. Thanks for the info, dude. Also with gold, you've done the timing pretty right, got it just as it started to oil up past 75, gold past 1000. Are you gonna sit on those positions next? Yeah, for sure Yeah, there's this is this is you know This is I mean you can think a lot about it and you can you know just stay with it for a second because it gets really good You know, you know one day and and you know have all these vacillations psychologically But you know, this is the time to you know to play ping-pong to you know Pick up on you know get involved in modeling

1:14:28 making or do some for cock to show on the internet. Do something. Whatever you do, don't invest or something ridiculous. I mean, this is the time where you make money, where the trend develops. And so there's really not a lot to do with it. I mean, oil looks higher. Gold looks higher. Currencies look weaker, all for the reasons that we talked about before. I mean, you've got huge wage disparities. I don't know how that comes inevitably resolves itself. on it may resolve itself in some type of a of a global currency crisis and then if the global currency crisis unfolds then inevitably you get uh... i guess in alignment under a global world government uh... a new global currency on and a new world order who is this maniac? I love this guy, he's my new hero

1:15:21 Nobody can see it. Nobody's listening. You're probably the only guy that actually heard him. This is why you donate to this show, to hear these gems. This is beautiful. And they're showing the US dollar. What is the other guy doing, jerking off while he's listening to this? Yes. No, they've already gotten him off screen. They're showing the US dollar index, which as you can imagine, goes down. Let's just listen to that again. That was that was beautiful. It was like all the things I've been telling you He does it in one in like 30 seconds crisis unfolds then inevitably you get I guess an alignment under a global world government ding a New way started over I got my ding here. Okay, okay, okay, right? Well the Skype connection might be kind of weird Let's see if we can do it see if we can time it

1:16:08 So start when, the first thing he says is the global currency crisis. I need a ding for that. We talked about before, you've got huge wage disparities. I don't know how that inevitably resolves itself. It may resolve itself in some type of a global currency crisis. Then if the global currency crisis unfolds then inevitably you get I guess an alignment under a global world government a new global currency And a new world order so all the boxes are checked

1:16:45 Maybe moving towards that talk a little bit more about this. Listen to his response listen to his response. This is the best hmm You're right. He was jerking off. It's like Listen to him and a new world order so We may be moving towards that. Talk to us a little bit more about this currency crisis you see erupting. What did you guys see? He went to the Shepard Smith School of Broadcasting. He doesn't say anything about this guy's crazy comments? No, they're not crazy. The guy's like, yup, yup, yup. That's right. That's right. I see it too. Funny thing. I just put on my pud here. Yup, that's right. That's idiot.

1:17:31 Let's just do this currency crisis you see erupting. What does that assume about what's gonna happen to the dollar? So the world is coming to an end. We have a new world order a global currency. Hey, how about that dollar? No, it's like yeah, we got the world coming in new currency world domination new world order, but I got a follow-up question Yeah, it's on my paper here. What about that dollar? Do real investors watch CNBC? Who is this intended for? Real investors watch CNBC all day. Yeah, because they want to be in the game.

1:18:07 No, I mean they're all basically in the offices of everybody. Oh, yeah, but the sound yeah, but believe me when the market closes and they did maybe they watch some more stuff while they're cleaning their office up then their home watching, you know law and order and the rest of it, you know what the nobody watches CNBC like you said after seven o'clock, but the sound is off and all they're doing is like Oh Aaron Burnett Maria Bartiromo That's what they're doing. When the door is closed and CNBC is on, they're pulling their pugs for the money, honeys. That's what it's all about. The better girl. Well, it assumes that the dollar will utterly get destroyed and become virtually worthless. You know, we have a combined well, I mean here's what we know. We know that that if you can produce something that this this this game that we have going on. Yeah, he's even saying it. It's a game. Yeah, it's a game which means he doesn't know the resolution of the game. He's just like

1:19:03 making it up as he goes along. He thinks he knows. I love the guy. Well, I'm not going to play any more of it because now he's just going to harsh my mellow and I was really feeling good about it. It was pretty funny. And you're right, you're probably like you and actually the people that now, actually probably CNBC after you played that clip probably had more listeners now that listen to No Agenda than listen to the original. It's a very small audience. Hey, maybe I should watch that CNBC from time to time. You know, Jared, one of our producers, Sent me a link. So this is nothing we can really discuss but it's a link, you know, Joel on software calm I'm sure you heard of that. Well, John on software commas it's kind of a this forums and it's a Joel on software talks about programming techniques and stuff and so one of our producers Jared was surfing around the forums and

1:19:56 And he found all these message threads from these guys who apparently are programming, this is from 2008, who are programming the high speed or the high velocity trading programs for Goldman Sachs. And they're talking about how to use certain type of programming, algorithms. I'm quoting from this. One guy is asking the question, this is an arbitrage system. Increased speed is directly correlated to increased profit. Another guy in the discussion points out that it's for derivatives trading. At less is more. When I calculate a price of a CDO tranche, I get expressed as contingent PV minus coupon times premium PV dash upfront.

1:19:03 making it up as he goes along. He thinks he knows. I love the guy. Well, I'm not going to play any more of it because now he's just going to harsh my mellow and I was really feeling good about it. It was pretty funny. And you're right, you're probably like you and actually the people that now, actually probably CNBC after you played that clip probably had more listeners now that listen to No Agenda than listen to the original. It's a very small audience. Hey, maybe I should watch that CNBC from time to time. You know, Jared, one of our producers, Sent me a link. So this is nothing we can really discuss but it's a link, you know, Joel on software calm I'm sure you heard of that. Well, John on software commas it's kind of a this forums and it's a Joel on software talks about programming techniques and stuff and so one of our producers Jared was surfing around the forums and

1:19:56 And he found all these message threads from these guys who apparently are programming, this is from 2008, who are programming the high speed or the high velocity trading programs for Goldman Sachs. And they're talking about how to use certain type of programming, algorithms. I'm quoting from this. One guy is asking the question, this is an arbitrage system. Increased speed is directly correlated to increased profit. Another guy in the discussion points out that it's for derivatives trading. At less is more. When I calculate a price of a CDO tranche, I get expressed as contingent PV minus coupon times premium PV dash upfront.

1:20:43 All these numbers are the order of about 40 million dollars. I mean, it's amazing. They're not even hiding this shit. They're just in forums talking about it. And by the way, they're probably just really good programmers. They're really good guys and I can't blame them. I know one guy at least who does this stuff and they're amazing. They're like mercenaries. So I'll put that link in the show notes at noagendashow.com. It'd be kind of fun to read. And another link came from CNN. It makes no sense to play the audio. It's a video from... I don't know if you've heard... Another piece of really important news. New York subway, a woman fell onto the tracks and the train stops just inches before running it over. Have you seen this video, John? We ran it on the blog. But did you see... Did you really see what was happening in the video?

1:21:31 Yeah, when I was reading the comments, people were pointing out that there seemed to be some sort of facial recognition. Yeah, there's all these boxes that continue to follow people. The footage is from the security cameras, and it looks like they've got body recognition, biometrics, not just tracking faces, it's tracking individuals. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, I guess because you could probably put like if you had this thing and through some computer and they had a box around somebody you could probably put click on the box and then you could just follow them. And then I did my homework, John, and I'm happy that we got so much in donations this week, or at least a good start, because it's still not enough to quit the day job. Although I think we're getting closer. I mean, I'm willing to take a salary cut just to do this full time. It would be a whopper. Yeah, and it's true. Still, I hope Mickey's not listening.

1:22:23 Honey, I have good news and bad news good news. I'm doing no agenda full-time bad news. I get to be home all day Yeah, bad news. We're living in a box You might be living in a box anyway the way things are going there. Oh shit, so I read the Operation Iraqi Freedom Report from the GAO I read through the whole thing John. Oh good. So I'm glad somebody oh my god. It's a mess They have no idea They have contractors there and I'll give you the link in the show notes. You can read through it yourself. Actually, I'll give you my highlighted version of the PDF. That'll be worth it. I highlighted things I just thought were outrageous. Oh, that's a good idea. That would be, that's a public service. Yeah, it is. That's worth a donation. So the observations at the end are so tame in compared with what's actually

1:23:18 in the report so I'll just give you the one paragraph from the concluding observations as I've stated today much has been done in Iraq and Kuwait to facilitate the drawdown effort by the way it's only 5,000 troops who've been drawn down so far however the effective execution of the drawdown may be compromised by several complex challenges notably identification of contractor requirements needed for the drawdown dude they have no idea if contractors there they don't know what they're doing They don't even know what the contractors are supposed to be doing. They have millions of dollars worth of tools that no one knows who's supposed to be using them. It's all in this report. In that report there's a whole section about how do we get our crap back. And this is my favorite, let me see if I can...

1:24:04 Oh, they have containers. Containers are really important to move stuff around. Here it is. According to US Army Central officials, the data system in place to track containers is inaccurate and incomplete because among other factors, it must manually be updated every time a container arrives at or leaves a specific location. Reports based the data from this system indicate the system is at best 25% accurate. Wow. Of all containers. Furthermore, updates to the location and status of containers may not occur routinely because of personnel shortages. There's like 300,000 people there. For example, according to officials in charge of container management, 200 containers listed as located in Iraq were in fact in Afghanistan. Oops! Oops! What? Yes. So,

1:24:58 Subsequent reports indicate that approximately 54,000 containers had been physically inventoried as of August 2009, which was almost 25,000 fewer than the number of containers in the system. And they still don't know where they are. Of these containers entered in the data system, location of over 7,000 could not be verified and the serviceability of 39% remained unknown. Shipping containers. Yeah, filled with stuff. Stuff! Like, money! You know, drugs! All kinds of interesting stuff. And how did 200 containers wind up in Afghanistan? Oops!

1:25:37 Please it's a joke. It's a joke. We need to just leave I mean well they can't this is about leaving this literally saying we need to bring in more contractors is already over a hundred thousand contractors bail and just leave the junk there and leave the Contractors there and stop paying them and just get the heck out. We'll save money. No no because we have to Retrograde this is the word used throughout the entire report we have to retrograde all the equipment and retrograde as I looked it up means render useless. Why? What's the point? Just leave it there. Basically it's a great gift for the Iraqis and the Afghanis. Afghanis are a bunch of trucks and jeeps and guns and cranes and God knows what's in these things. You know, money and whatever, everything in between. Jugs, bottles, you know, who knows? Well, you'll like this then.

1:26:33 The complexity of issues surrounding transfer of authorities has already presented obstacles. For example, in May 2009, MNCI, whatever the hell that is, undertook an initiative to turn over the IBM Sina Hospital located in the international zone to the government of Iraq as a fully equipped, fully operational hospital. Great idea, John. This is what you're calling for, right? However, 100 of the approximately 9,800 pieces of equipment in the hospital, such as intensive care unit beds, trauma centers and patient vital signs monitoring equipment, were ineligible for transfer because, according to Army officials, the Army could not declare them as excess to the needs of the Army.

1:27:15 As a result, officials had to seek alternate means to transfer or sell the remaining pieces of equipment necessary to outfit the hospital. Ultimately, the hospital was transferred to the government of Iraq on schedule. However, it was done without those 100 remaining pieces of important equipment. Because of course someone sold them off to Abdullah there on the side of the road. Probably. The whole thing is Clusterfuck and if you weren't pissed off that we were there killing people in the first place your money is being mismanaged like nobody's business In fact, they act like it's nobody's business. It's just Unconscionable what is how this is the reason the economy's in the tank? It's because billions of dollars being wasted literally wasted and they're just gonna render everything useless and

1:28:02 They don't give it to the Iraqis, they gotta blow it up or re- retro- retrograde. Retrograde, they gotta shoot, yeah, you're right, they gotta take a bullet to it. Look up the word retrograde. I know what it means. Yeah, what is the definition of retrograde? It means to return to its original form in terms of junk. No, no, no, no, no, that's incorrect. That's incorrect. Retrograde, bitch. Aha, no wait. No. I'm just trying to open up the dictionary retro break a wreck never mind retrograde reverting to an earlier and inferior condition yeah junk What I said junk you're right so on that note I I also

1:28:59 I did some more and by the way I'm also out here sucking advertiser cock in Chicago like with my day job. I also reviewed the Copenhagen Treaty Convention. Oh brother. Oh man. This is gonna be bad. We're gonna have to talk about this on Sunday. Yeah. And that woman that headed the whole thing she is a... where did they get her? She's like a journalist. Yeah, that is actually her credentials, isn't it? Yeah, she's like a TV reporter. She's a meat puppet. She doesn't know anything about science from what I can tell. Maybe she was a science meat puppet. So this is ridiculous. So this is very very difficult to read because it has all of these basically put in brackets multiple options of the language because they're still working on it. It's a draft. This is a fiasco. Actually I think blood came out of my ear while I was on page 10.

1:29:58 As I'm trying to figure out what is actually in here, but it's all filled with IPCC Everything's based on the on this all bull and the thing is that if you look at the people that are the committees that are that put this report or this thing together this idea this tree whatever they're supposed to call it It's all Greenpeace people none of them with a scientific background Greenpeace and there was some other organization that was just dominating the whole thing uh... the concerned scientists which i guess there's some scientists in there but it's like the the union of concerned scientists and greenpeace guys in his most they have represented let me just read said let me just read a couple relevant pieces that i highlighted

1:30:37 Acknowledging the findings of the fourth assessment report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, and more recent scientific information, by the way not linked or mentioned in this report, that delay in reducing emissions significantly constrains opportunities to achieve low stabilization levels and increases the probability of severe climate change impacts and the consequent need for and cost of adaptation all of this crap. It doesn't actually say that. And then here, as assessed by the IPCC in his fourth assessment report, warming of the climate system as a consequence of human activity is unequivocable. Global atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased significantly because of human activities since 1750. Do you have a date for it?

1:31:36 Hey, what, it's 1750, these two guys get together. Hey, what are you doing over there? I'm making some global warming. I'm lighting a piece of coal and I'm just gonna let it burn. If you live in low-lying countries... This is really cool. There's either one or two things are going to happen. Here it is. Recognizing all developing countries, in particular low-lying and other small island countries, countries with low-lying coastal, arid and semi-arid areas or areas liable to floods, drought and desertification,

1:32:12 and developing countries with fragile mountainous ecosystems are particularly vulnerable to the adverse effects of climate change. Hey, Holland, we are fucked! Holland's already underwater, what difference does it make? What's it gonna do? What they're doing here is they're basically ramping up for the whole scare of tidal waves. They're ramping up to take our money. The thing that didn't work out with the timing on all this, you know, they started working on this, I mean Gore started on this project years and years earlier, is they didn't expect the world economy to have collapsed. And now it's because it's all coming to fruition right about now. I mean the timing was that now's the time we're going to just steal the money from the United States and pass it off and drink and let's all have a party.

1:33:00 But we got no money left. We've got ourselves involved in a bunch of dumb wars that are bull and they're just a complete waste and then the economy collapses and we don't have any money to give these third world... We're broke! Just take a look at the CIA fact book and take a look at how much... We're like 700 trillion dollars in the hole. We haven't got any money, folks. Get it from somebody else. Get it from France. Take it out of the EU. You know what? You make a good point. Has anyone from France ever donated? To our show? Yeah. I'm gonna have to look in the database, but I don't recall anyone from France ever donating to the show. Okay, if no one from France has donated, then we're blaming them for everything on this show.

1:33:45 I'll look it up. I know we got a lot of Germans, we now have a Russian, we got a lot of Brits obviously, and a lot of Australians. In fact, Australia's a better... And a lot of Dutch, a lot of Dutch. A lot of Dutch, well that's because of you. No, but they're switching on, thank God. And a lot of Dutch, and we got Belgium, we have Swiss, we have a lot of... we're in Italy, but the French, I don't remember hearing a French thing, and I'm like a Francophile, so I would have noticed. You gotta look out for those Frenchies, man. You know, they should be paying for this global thing. At the same time, increased financial support and technology transfer to developing countries will help these countries in their implementation of the NAMA's, which is like the national whatever thingy. Reducing the risk... Oh yeah, let's just give them all our inventions to while we're at it. Reducing the risk, I love this, of triggering or crossing tipping points that could result in abrupt climate change.

1:34:42 Oh, just like the movie. Yeah, exactly. Just like the movie, baby. Ah, shit, John. There's so much we didn't do. We didn't do any swine flu. Again. That's okay. The swine flu thing is that we're getting more good information so we can do swine flu on Sunday. You know, I think, luckily, we didn't do swine flu for the last couple of weeks. That may be the reason we got so much money. That's a good point. People saying, you know, those guys, they finally got out that swine flu thing with that jingle. Let's just play the jingle just so we can feel good, okay? It'll make us feel good. Because here's the problem. I know that people are actually taking showers in the morning and then going... And they're like, holy crap, I'm singing their damn jingle. You have now been programmed. You will never be able to forget.

1:33:45 I'll look it up. I know we got a lot of Germans, we now have a Russian, we got a lot of Brits obviously, and a lot of Australians. In fact, Australia's a better... And a lot of Dutch, a lot of Dutch. A lot of Dutch, well that's because of you. No, but they're switching on, thank God. And a lot of Dutch, and we got Belgium, we have Swiss, we have a lot of... we're in Italy, but the French, I don't remember hearing a French thing, and I'm like a Francophile, so I would have noticed. You gotta look out for those Frenchies, man. You know, they should be paying for this global thing. At the same time, increased financial support and technology transfer to developing countries will help these countries in their implementation of the NAMA's, which is like the national whatever thingy. Reducing the risk... Oh yeah, let's just give them all our inventions to while we're at it. Reducing the risk, I love this, of triggering or crossing tipping points that could result in abrupt climate change.

1:34:42 Oh, just like the movie. Yeah, exactly. Just like the movie, baby. Ah, shit, John. There's so much we didn't do. We didn't do any swine flu. Again. That's okay. The swine flu thing is that we're getting more good information so we can do swine flu on Sunday. You know, I think, luckily, we didn't do swine flu for the last couple of weeks. That may be the reason we got so much money. That's a good point. People saying, you know, those guys, they finally got out that swine flu thing with that jingle. Let's just play the jingle just so we can feel good, okay? It'll make us feel good. Because here's the problem. I know that people are actually taking showers in the morning and then going... And they're like, holy crap, I'm singing their damn jingle. You have now been programmed. You will never be able to forget.

1:35:38 It's a good jingle. I deprogrammed them at the same time. Do you hear me do that? Yeah. Okay. I don't actually want to mess with people. Well, we have to discuss that. Somebody mentioned to us because we had that crazy thing where they had the two people saying, you know, same time. We have to explain that a little in some detail. Somebody said, you know, why don't you explain how that works? What's the deal? People want to know how NLP works, which is neuro linguistic programming. You have to what the only and we maybe we should leave it here. Words, first of all, are very, very important. You hear John and I listening very closely to what people are saying. And the beauty of this being an audio program only or as Mickey calls it, our little radio show is because you're not she does a little radio show you do.

1:36:23 Radio show now she's a big fan. In fact, well, never mind it's because you'd not distracted by the visuals and Hand motions what people do eyebrows eyebrows are not just there to catch sweat off your brow They're there to express the way eyebrows move up and down. All this is very important. These are Ancient signals since man developed, you know And we've just become these morons and we just sit there and soak up all this crap where our brains are completely open in front of the television with with

1:36:59 with a flicker rate, which is by the way I think that's why they're gonna ban flat-screen TVs is because you know we're not getting hypnotized enough the flicker is no longer there, no flicker so we gotta go back to tubes. I want to mention something now that you brought this whole thing up one of the things in fact I didn't even think about until you started bringing it up which is the fact that when we do those clips, when we start to deconstruct TV shows like Law & Order, you point out that the acting is so terrible that you don't notice it when you're watching the show because of all these other cues you're getting and you're actually convinced that they're actually doing so. It's not so horribly blocky. Yeah, and you can hear how bad it is.

1:37:40 And that's the advantage of doing the show this way as opposed to doing it on video. People say, why don't you do a video version? Because you would be distracted from what we're trying to make you concentrate on, which is the words and you know, we want you to think a little deeper. Radio has a different effect on you than TV does. McLuhan would talk about this, you know, one's a hot medium, one's a cool medium. So let's pick up on this. Let's make sure that on the next show we talk a little bit. We should always be telling you how the programming works because your brain is being programmed and you're right John, there's some really bad acting. You want to hear some really bad acting? Yeah. Some really bad acting? Hey, hey, hey. That's all I ever want. That's what I'm talking about. Are you even paying attention? You need to focus. Your work is lackluster. I want you to get your spark back.

1:38:26 Well, I'm not that's hey, you're awesome. By the way, you are awesome Look, that's a little a little little thing more bad Well, I have to take part in the bad acting scene once in a while. It's highly appreciated. We didn't pay you for that. Did we? No, I didn't even get scale But I'm telling you the tech crutch is gonna have something to say about that But but Nick did buy you beer and hookers at least he got my credit card. He took the hookers. Apparently I don't remember this All right, and we'll also talk about V on the next episode because I did watch and I guess the only thing I can say is I believe

1:39:04 Yeah, we do have to talk about V. We totally got to talk about it. And Mickey actually came up with a with an amazing theory which she kept me up at night with her theory about it. So... Well, we saw the second episode yesterday. Well, don't tell me because I've got it DVR'd. Okay. So when I get... I'm not gonna watch it anymore by the way. I'm sick of it. Oh no, I'm hooked. Oh. What? Oh, okay. I could be watching Shepard Smith, you're right, but I think I'll opt out one day a week. Handy. Must watch Hannity. Alright, thanks to our executive producers, thanks to everyone who donated, thanks to everyone who listened. Noagendaforums.com, noagendachat.com, noagendastream.com, noagendashow.com, and please help us out. Coming to you from the heartland of Gitmo Nation,

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