San Francisco Loveolution Parade, Nudity and Civic Centers
The hosts discuss the sixth annual Loveolution parade in San Francisco, a derivative of the Berlin Love Parade. They describe the atmosphere at the Civic Center, noting the presence of 100,000 attendees and the lack of arrests for public nudity despite signs claiming "nudity is not a crime." The conversation transitions into a critique of American civic centers, comparing San Francisco's government square to European town squares that foster more consistent public activity.
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00:02 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's October 4th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 136. This is no agenda. As we approach the vestibule of mass swine flu vaccinations, wear the nasal spray that won't kill you. Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California, In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And on the heels of another Saturday slaughter of the miserable cow bears here in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Ayyy!
00:42 Hello. So I watched a football game yesterday. It was took away four hours of my life. I'll never regain. Well, you know you did the wrong thing because yesterday was the annual Loveolution love parade in this beautiful city of San Francisco John the city of love. Where were you? Never heard of the Loveolution parade. When did that show up? It started six years ago. This was the sixth time. It's a derivative of the Berlin Love Parade and I think there was maybe an Austrian Love Parade. You should have told me about it. I would have come over and watched it. Well, actually a couple of times I thought you were actually in the parade because there are all these old naked dudes walking around. Yeah? Did they have big giant schwanzes? Yes! In fact, they did with things hacking off of them. It was great. It was, um, you know... It sounds, actually, it sounds rather disgusting. No, it's cool because it's all about the love. And so, uh... Six years. What was going on six years ago?
01:44 2003? That is the bottom of the last downturn. Well there you go. It actually started on 2nd Street so it was cool. We walked right out and everyone is wearing crazy outfits and so we bought a couple of wigs. Sounds like Gay Parade 2. It's kind of like Gay Parade only not everybody's gay. Really? Yeah. Yeah, really. And then, as we were walking around and the supper club float came by, so Mickey got us on that. So we rode all the way up to the Civic Center, which was, it was like a huge rave, that entire square, which is beautiful by the way. Is that the Senate building? Is that what they call it?
02:33 City Hall with a dome on it. It's at the City Hall. That's just City Hall Wow. Yeah City Hall is no Senate in San Francisco It's a city don't they have a Senate in San Francisco. They should It's modeled after the Capitol building. It looks a bit like the Capitol building. Yeah, it's actually quite pretty. San Francisco was built around a theory years and years ago when the city was formulated that every city should have a building like that. And so it looks like a little bitty Washington DC in that area. Yeah, it does. And they have these various types of federal type buildings and then a square
03:12 that is nobody goes to because it's not a town square it's kind of a government square. During the day it's totally dead and it's really weird because you have these streets where you have two lanes going one way and one lane coming the other way so Invariably, guys like me are like, oh, I'm just going to get in the left-hand lane to turn left, which of course means I'm going exactly against traffic or people coming around the corner. It's a very, very weird square. But there were 100,000 people there yesterday. It would probably be lively if there were people there. Generally speaking, there's nobody there except hobos and panhandlers and drug dealers. Well, yesterday we had homos and drug dealers, but no panhandlers.
03:55 Oh, hobos, I'm sorry. Hobos and drug dealers and it's pretty, it's kind of pathetic and there's a number of books written on the topic of these failed civic centers like that, like San Francisco's, which have never evolved into anything. Like if you go to Europe and you go, almost every old town in Europe that was built in the, you know, from the 1600s on or from the 1300s on, You always find this little square surrounded by restaurants and cafes and you go in there and you can and it's usually the squares filled with tables and or things going on there's usually like you have that you have it in in Berlin you have it in Paris has multiple squares like that I guess yeah and there and there's a lot of activity going on San Francisco is nothing just like there's nothing this guy's like a skateboard
04:50 It's typical of the, not even that, it's typical of the American attempt to, without understanding the American attempt to artificially create these situations. But that said, that city hall building is still quite pretty. It's a beautiful building and we had that, took a lot of pictures so I'll get some of them up here and there. When you see a hundred thousand people on the square and you see people that were shooting gold confetti with confetti guns into the air, I mean it looked really, really pretty. Yeah, littering. Yes, littering. You are the buzzkill, man. It was a love-olution, John, where people just thought about love. It's the currency of the 21st century. Get with it.
05:39 2003, yeah I see what's going on. A lot of ecstasy being sold in 2003. Yeah, I have to say that has not gotten any better. There was a lot of that going on this year as well. Hi man! I love you man. I totally love you. Hey, this is great. Don't you like the confetti? So yeah, too bad. I missed it. Oh well. They have a lot of events like that in San Francisco. But the funniest thing was the same people I might add well, it's the same people though. I did hear from multiple people That there were more naked people walking around this year than usual which of course Let's just be honest naked guys not a good look period no matter what unless you're you know unless you're really cut as in
06:24 you work out a lot. By the way, most of these guys cut. How come these guys, by the way, how come there's not just massive arrests and people get put on the sexual offender list? Well, in fact, guys were walking around with signs naked saying nudity is not a crime and they were not getting arrested and I have to say for these United States of America I thought that was a pretty big deal. I'm like, huh, wow, I totally expected them to get arrested. And thrown on the sex offender list, but they weren't. Yeah, well next time. Maybe it's because they spray painted their bodies gold. Oh brother. Maybe that's the trick. So I got up extra early this morning thinking I would pull off a couple of clips off of my DVR.
