Episode 136 · Sunday, 4 October 2009

Is iTunes a Government Honeypot?

A retracted Newsmax column explores the potential for a bloodless American coup as the FDIC struggles to insure trillions in deposits amidst global currency shifts.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 136

About this episode

John L. Perry, a former White House staffer for two administrations, published a controversial column on Newsmax suggesting a civilized military coup could resolve current political tensions in the United States. The article, which was quickly retracted, surfaces as President Barack Obama faces internal friction with the CIA and military commanders over troop surges in Afghanistan. Speculation also surrounds Obama’s brief trip to Copenhagen for the Chicago Olympic bid, with theories emerging of a secret diplomatic detour to Russia to meet with Vladimir Putin.

Global financial stability remains precarious as World Bank President Robert Zoellick warns of a total funding depletion within twelve months, while the G20 pushes for Special Drawing Rights as a new global currency. In Japan, the suspicious death of former Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa follows his erratic behavior at a G7 summit. Domestically, the FDIC faces a liquidity crisis, reportedly borrowing funds from the very banks it regulates to cover a multi-billion dollar shortfall in deposit insurance. Meanwhile, the American Police Force, led by a convicted felon with Serbian paramilitary ties named Michael Hilton, has attempted to seize control of a municipal prison in Hardin, Montana.

Technical failures at Apple have triggered a massive drop in listener downloads after the iTunes feed returned a 404 error, prompting a move toward a dedicated No Agenda radio stream. The cultural landscape shifts as Law & Order integrates Gardasil vaccine marketing directly into its scripts, and the San Francisco Loveolution parade sees 100,000 attendees testing public nudity laws at the Civic Center. The episode wraps with a critique of ageism in media following Bill Maher’s mockery of singer Andy Williams.


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CHAPTER 01 / 21 Discussion

San Francisco Loveolution Parade, Nudity and Civic Centers

The hosts discuss the sixth annual Loveolution parade in San Francisco, a derivative of the Berlin Love Parade. They describe the atmosphere at the Civic Center, noting the presence of 100,000 attendees and the lack of arrests for public nudity despite signs claiming "nudity is not a crime." The conversation transitions into a critique of American civic centers, comparing San Francisco's government square to European town squares that foster more consistent public activity.

san francisco· loveolution· love parade· city hall· civic center· nudity· urban planning

00:02 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's October 4th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 136. This is no agenda. As we approach the vestibule of mass swine flu vaccinations, wear the nasal spray that won't kill you. Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California, In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And on the heels of another Saturday slaughter of the miserable cow bears here in Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Ayyy!

00:42 Hello. So I watched a football game yesterday. It was took away four hours of my life. I'll never regain. Well, you know you did the wrong thing because yesterday was the annual Loveolution love parade in this beautiful city of San Francisco John the city of love. Where were you? Never heard of the Loveolution parade. When did that show up? It started six years ago. This was the sixth time. It's a derivative of the Berlin Love Parade and I think there was maybe an Austrian Love Parade. You should have told me about it. I would have come over and watched it. Well, actually a couple of times I thought you were actually in the parade because there are all these old naked dudes walking around. Yeah? Did they have big giant schwanzes? Yes! In fact, they did with things hacking off of them. It was great. It was, um, you know... It sounds, actually, it sounds rather disgusting. No, it's cool because it's all about the love. And so, uh... Six years. What was going on six years ago?

01:44 2003? That is the bottom of the last downturn. Well there you go. It actually started on 2nd Street so it was cool. We walked right out and everyone is wearing crazy outfits and so we bought a couple of wigs. Sounds like Gay Parade 2. It's kind of like Gay Parade only not everybody's gay. Really? Yeah. Yeah, really. And then, as we were walking around and the supper club float came by, so Mickey got us on that. So we rode all the way up to the Civic Center, which was, it was like a huge rave, that entire square, which is beautiful by the way. Is that the Senate building? Is that what they call it?

02:33 City Hall with a dome on it. It's at the City Hall. That's just City Hall Wow. Yeah City Hall is no Senate in San Francisco It's a city don't they have a Senate in San Francisco. They should It's modeled after the Capitol building. It looks a bit like the Capitol building. Yeah, it's actually quite pretty. San Francisco was built around a theory years and years ago when the city was formulated that every city should have a building like that. And so it looks like a little bitty Washington DC in that area. Yeah, it does. And they have these various types of federal type buildings and then a square

03:12 that is nobody goes to because it's not a town square it's kind of a government square. During the day it's totally dead and it's really weird because you have these streets where you have two lanes going one way and one lane coming the other way so Invariably, guys like me are like, oh, I'm just going to get in the left-hand lane to turn left, which of course means I'm going exactly against traffic or people coming around the corner. It's a very, very weird square. But there were 100,000 people there yesterday. It would probably be lively if there were people there. Generally speaking, there's nobody there except hobos and panhandlers and drug dealers. Well, yesterday we had homos and drug dealers, but no panhandlers.

03:55 Oh, hobos, I'm sorry. Hobos and drug dealers and it's pretty, it's kind of pathetic and there's a number of books written on the topic of these failed civic centers like that, like San Francisco's, which have never evolved into anything. Like if you go to Europe and you go, almost every old town in Europe that was built in the, you know, from the 1600s on or from the 1300s on, You always find this little square surrounded by restaurants and cafes and you go in there and you can and it's usually the squares filled with tables and or things going on there's usually like you have that you have it in in Berlin you have it in Paris has multiple squares like that I guess yeah and there and there's a lot of activity going on San Francisco is nothing just like there's nothing this guy's like a skateboard

04:50 It's typical of the, not even that, it's typical of the American attempt to, without understanding the American attempt to artificially create these situations. But that said, that city hall building is still quite pretty. It's a beautiful building and we had that, took a lot of pictures so I'll get some of them up here and there. When you see a hundred thousand people on the square and you see people that were shooting gold confetti with confetti guns into the air, I mean it looked really, really pretty. Yeah, littering. Yes, littering. You are the buzzkill, man. It was a love-olution, John, where people just thought about love. It's the currency of the 21st century. Get with it.

05:39 2003, yeah I see what's going on. A lot of ecstasy being sold in 2003. Yeah, I have to say that has not gotten any better. There was a lot of that going on this year as well. Hi man! I love you man. I totally love you. Hey, this is great. Don't you like the confetti? So yeah, too bad. I missed it. Oh well. They have a lot of events like that in San Francisco. But the funniest thing was the same people I might add well, it's the same people though. I did hear from multiple people That there were more naked people walking around this year than usual which of course Let's just be honest naked guys not a good look period no matter what unless you're you know unless you're really cut as in

06:24 you work out a lot. By the way, most of these guys cut. How come these guys, by the way, how come there's not just massive arrests and people get put on the sexual offender list? Well, in fact, guys were walking around with signs naked saying nudity is not a crime and they were not getting arrested and I have to say for these United States of America I thought that was a pretty big deal. I'm like, huh, wow, I totally expected them to get arrested. And thrown on the sex offender list, but they weren't. Yeah, well next time. Maybe it's because they spray painted their bodies gold. Oh brother. Maybe that's the trick. So I got up extra early this morning thinking I would pull off a couple of clips off of my DVR.

CHAPTER 02 / 21 Discussion

Janine Garofalo, Bill Maher, Racism Allegations and Tea Party

Janine Garofalo's appearance on Bill Maher's program is criticized, with claims that she appeared intoxicated and made inflammatory remarks regarding race. Garofalo labeled the Tea Party and 9-12 movements as "white power movements," a characterization the hosts dispute by citing the movements' focus on policy issues like the Federal Reserve. The discussion includes a reading of the Merriam-Webster definition of racism and a counter-argument that liberal critics are the ones fixated on racial identity.

janine garofalo· bill maher· tea party· racism· glenn beck· rush limbaugh· merriam-webster

07:12 And I was very happy that I checked email beforehand. Because you had already pulled the clips that I was about to pull. Because apparently we both forced ourselves once again, you thought the football game was bad, we forced ourselves to watch Bill Maher on Friday night. Even I was going, oh my God! And it wasn't so much even Bill Maher until the end and you pulled the exact clip I was going to pull, we'll get to that. But on this program, Janine Garofalo, who was coked out, I might add,

07:55 Rubbing their nose touching their nose and trying to get that shaking. She was shaking John the whole first segment here Her head was shaking her hands were shaking. She kept like rubbing the top of her nose the bottom of her nose I'm like girl you are so coked out right now and I think but Milma Bill Martin knew it because he he was not like fawning over her as usual, but also probably because she took her We have to find a word for it. When you incite racism the way she did, there's got to be a description for that. There's got to be one descriptive word for it. Yeah, well, you know, he all... I think what annoyed... and he actually glared at her a couple of times because she... he was going on with one of his bits that was obviously written. He's got ten writers. Well, nine including him. I mean, ten including him, nine total.

08:41 10 total actually, well never mind. In the chat room, new title, Coke Time with Bill Maher. So anyway, so he gave her the look because he was working on a couple of things, shtick, he was going and she jumps in and interrupts him and tells him he's full of crap and it's something else, her analysis of the world, which is crazy. I mean, people call me crazy. She's completely nuts and I don't know what happened how this came about because I kind of used to like her You know, she was a pretty funny comedian. She had a kind of a vibe going on there and You know the dike enos I can't know that you know how that kind of attracts me in a way But then she just went off the deep end man. It's like they put a chip into her head or something Yeah, no, she definitely is it Garofalo one. Is that the one where she goes off on on the racism stuff? I

09:34 probably haven't listened to the clip, I just presume that's it. Also I'd like to say that you know it's obvious to I think anybody who has eyes in this country that the tea baggers, the 9-12ers, these separatist groups that pretend that it's about policy they are clearly white identity movements, they're clearly white power movements. That was so huge when I heard that I mean that's like calling people skinheads and I mean white power movement that that's pretty severe to call someone that yeah when we're talking about a bunch of housewives yeah with with signs like end the Fed oh yeah what they don't like about the president is that he's black or half black which they and listen to the crowd

10:25 they will what what also is shocking is that people keep pretending that that's not really the case with these people I'm not now she comes after us John not talking about people that do have problems with his policy that that's not that's fine okay we're fine but these people who are are also being led by the Glenn Becks, Michelle Bachman's, the Rush Limbaugh's, whomever. They are no different than any other white identity movement that's part of our history. This has been going on since the founding of this country that white power movements have tried to establish themselves and hold on to power. The white power movements since the founding of this country?

11:04 I thought they had it all under lock and key at the time. Didn't we have slaves? We didn't need a white power movement. Yeah, we had a white power movement since the founding. So you know, Rush Limbaugh addressed this nonsense, not since the show, but during the week he said, Because this racism thing keeps cropping up. Have not any of these people noticed that the right-wing conservatives go after Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in particular? Who are whiter than they do Obama?

11:40 More than they do. I mean Nancy Pelosi is like a huge target But once again, you know, this is this is the most dangerous thing to do is this is to say that people are racist What is the definition of racism John the actual textbook definition? I'd have to look it up But it tends to be someone who is bigoted toward a race other than their own Definition of racism we might as well do it. I But I think if you're holding up a sign that says end the Fed, you may be overly hopeful. White power. You may be overly hopeful. Because we don't want the Fed to be run by a bunch of white guys. White guys? Okay, well interesting. So according to, what is this?

12:32 Merriam-Webster's online dictionary, which I guess is pretty good. It's as good as any. The word dates from 1933. That's not since the founding of our country. Definition one, a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. What the hell does that mean? I don't know. I don't fit it. Whatever that description is. This is crazy. It's just really, it's, and it's irritating. And if that's her message, screw her. She's a racist. She's a pig. I don't know. I don't, I don't see where you get that she's a racist. Well, she's the one that seems to be, well, not based on that definition.

13:25 But based on the fact that she keeps bringing it up. She's racially interested in her view of the world is based on race Yeah, yeah, well, that's a very good point She's the one that is looking at black and white and not and not at issues in fact I don't think once she said anything about pure issues. It was all about oh, they're racist. Oh, they don't like the president because he's a black man and Jesus Christ, this is the conversation you would have hoped we wouldn't have to have in 2009. This is exactly it. You know, she's the one bringing it up. I never... It's not... The conservatives have very rarely said anything about it. In fact, most people who are Republicans, I think I can speak for them on this basis, always believed that the first black president was going to be a Republican.

14:10 You know, and they're the ones who's the ones with Clarence Thomas was a Republican. And but these same people were like all over him. You know, it seems to me that they're the ones who are actually the racist. And if you take a look at the typical liberal out there, you know, that ones in, say, in Palo Alto, they won't move next to a black person. And how come no one was living next? You know, live in a mixed neighborhood. I doubt it. I doubt that you're right. But, you know, where where were these cries of racism when When Bush... They just mentioned to these people, Obama won the election. Hello? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't that count for something? Doesn't that mean something? Yeah, but how about Condoleezza Rice? How about Colin Powell?

14:52 I never heard anyone say anything well, you know, people, because you know, there were people going straight up in the in the in Congress straight up into Condoleezza Rice's face and yelling at her. There's a huge backlash amongst the liberals against any black person who doesn't toe the line and become a Democrat. I mean, the blacks that are out there, there's plenty of them, lots of them as a matter of fact, who are Republicans who've gotten a clue or even conservatives. And they are just treated like crap. Because they have to be democrats. Because they're not acting like slaves. I mean, I'm telling you, it's the liberals that are the racists. You're kind of cutting in and out. Do you think that's a router thing? No, not at this place. And then we have Garofalo on Dubai. I vaguely remember

CHAPTER 03 / 21 Discussion

Janine Garofalo on Dubai and Brazil Sexual Cultures

A brief segment highlights Janine Garofalo's comments regarding the sexualized cultures of Dubai and Brazil. The hosts mock her assessment of Dubai, noting that her description of the city as a "wide open party town" is inaccurate given its actual cultural norms and dress codes.

janine garofalo· dubai· brazil· foreign policy· sexualized cultures

15:45 What this was all about play this one. I'm true. I don't think it's about the sex or the eroticism It's about foreign policy decisions. It may be some inner turmoil about the sexuality, but there's far more Sexualized cultures around the world they could go to Dubai for Christ's sake Brazil Dubai What the hell I don't what does she ever she is making the implication that Dubai is some sort of wide open party town She's obviously never been there the women are covered. Wait a minute. Are you sure she wasn't saying the opposite? No, no, that's why she said Brazil I don't think it's about the sex or the eroticism. It's about foreign policy decisions It may be some inner turmoil about the sexuality, but there's far more Sexualized cultures around the world they could go to Dubai. I say Brazil. I have been to Dubai. Let me tell you I've been no no

16:40 That's crazy. She's got her head up her ass. Yeah, let me play you have a clip from the last week because I want to play another interesting dude, I did the way these people slip in like information that's inaccurate or flawed or Stereotypical is kind of bothers is getting this bothering me more and more. Can you find the The clip, um, do you have the list of the clips from last week? Yeah, I have, uh, Emmys, Lieberman on NYC, FBI, linoleic acids. Thank you for calling Mr. Benton. Too many agencies. White supremacist? Yeah, play that one. Okay, hold on. Let me set it up. Yeah.

CHAPTER 04 / 21 Discussion

Cesar Chavez, Illegal Immigration, Railroad History Myths

The hosts critique a History Channel segment regarding demographic changes in Arkansas and the historical role of immigrants. They argue that Cesar Chavez was actually opposed to illegal immigration because it undermined his efforts to unionize Mexican-American farm workers. Additionally, they debunk a claim that Mexican immigrants built the U.S. railroads, asserting that the labor was primarily provided by Irish immigrants in the East and Chinese immigrants in the West.

cesar chavez· illegal immigration· history channel· railroads· irish immigrants· chinese immigrants

17:17 There's been a bunch of shows on the History Channel and elsewhere talking about gangs and in this case it was about, I think, skinheads or hate groups or something like that. And so they're discussing some character who was I don't know if he's the Ku Klux Klan or some something or other. I mean, it was rather innocuous. But a woman comes in in the middle of this guy. This guy's doing a background on this one person who's basically complaining about the number of illegal aliens in southern Arkansas. And this woman comes in who's, you know, the entire liberal front is, you know, for some reason, and I can't

18:01 explain it, thinks it's okay for illegal aliens to just take over the jobs of people that were normally in unions. There's actually an anti-union kind of a thing going on with the liberals and I can't figure out why. And one of the things they've done is they've kind of restructured the debate, including the one I find the most offensive since I was around during this period. And again, I'll remind people that I was actually a union organizer technically. Ah, you were a member of ACORN. No. SEIU. No, but actually we did get screwed by the SEIU. All right, so what's your point?

18:42 Anyway, the point is that they would say things like all of a sudden Cesar Chavez was brought into the debate as someone who would be for all these poor illegals, we populated our country with aliens and we need more and all that sort of thing when it's really just a scam by big business to get cheap labor. The fact is, Cesar Chavez was dead set against this illegal alien thing because he was unionizing the Mexican-Americans in this country that were farm workers. It was the farm workers union and he didn't like the idea that they were bringing in braceros and illegals and all the rest of this to screw these people.

19:19 But somehow they've twisted it so somehow in some imaginary world Cesar Chavez would be for this and there's a there's just a comment by this woman in this in this one piece which I'm sorry I'm beating this up too much that just just made me irked. Play it. Roper focuses his hate on the changes in his hometown of Russellville, Arkansas. Arkansas has seen a rapid increase in its Latino population during the last two decades. Really this part of rural Arkansas looks no different from Southern California now. And it's like this in Iowa, it's like this in Georgia, anywhere you have these big meat processing plants, they brought in the illegals and it's really transformed the entire communities in these different states that before were

20:06 almost entirely white. It's been a rapid transformation. I mean, the only thing more rapid was maybe the Visigoths transforming Rome. But that's what's happening here. It's an invasion by the name. We have a long history that Mexican and Chinese immigrants built the railroad. Hold it! Mexican and Chinese immigrants built the railroads? Yeah, in the Lucky Luke cartoons, maybe. What Mexican immigrants built the railroads? Actually, most of the railroads, we were still at, not quite, but we had a war with Mexico in 1848. Weren't they built by slaves and chain gangs? No, they were built by, no, they were built by Irish immigrants. Irish immigrants built the part in the east and the Chinese immigrants built the part in the west. There were no Mexicans involved. So why did he just gratuitously throw this in?

20:58 This is the kind of thing that's going on and I find it extremely annoying. You know, when Christine and I visited San Francisco State University, you know that they have a Cesar Chavez Hall? Who? The university. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I was like, huh. Anyway, more of this? Nah, that's good. That's enough. Um... Mexicans built the railroad. Let's take a little bit of an interlude, John. We just need to catch our breath here for a second. It's very important. We have a message for you. With rabbit agenda virus, it seems like my life is split in two. There's the life I'm told to live, according to Fox News. That, no, let's kill that. I have the other one too. I like this one better. You don't like the one with the dog bark?

CHAPTER 05 / 21 Discussion

No Agenda Radio Stream Project and iTunes Feed Issues

Plans are announced to launch a full-time No Agenda radio stream featuring various programs and listener-submitted spots. The hosts seek a project manager to handle the technical uploading and programming of the stream. They also address a significant drop in downloads caused by an iTunes technical error where the feed returned a 404 error, leading to a discussion on their over-reliance on Apple's infrastructure.

no agenda stream· radio station· itunes· podcast feed· meveo· apple

25:27 It was a little bit long. But this does lead us to a project that we're working on, on resurrecting the No Agenda stream into something a little more interesting, such as putting a whole bunch of shows on there that are kind of along the same vibe, either our show specifically, The Horowitz show you do we're gonna put up what other a couple other good shows We're basically gonna make a full-time radio stream. I guess and these would run in between programming as spots Right As actual commercials and I might as well say right right now before we forget about it We need someone to help us with that so that we can actually you know, cuz we have a lot of good ideas We have like zero initiative We get nothing done

26:19 So, we've discussed taking some money out of the kitty. I got nothing done. We get the show done. Yeah, that's about it. Taking some money out of the kitty and paying someone to actually upload all this stuff. We'll give you the access to the stream so that you can program it in and basically make that thing fun to listen to so whenever you tune into it there's going to be something fresh or something new or probably something you haven't heard on it and just something you can dip into once in a while like a radio station. Duh. Right without going through a rigmarole. Yeah, you just type in no agenda stream comm you there. Yeah, so So I'd like to have something even simpler like, you know, just call letters I mean no agenda stream calm makes sense. I mean that makes sense That's just not saying it doesn't make sense, but doesn't mean the only thing we you can have ten different entries You don't have to have just the one

27:14 Right. So send us an email if you're interested in managing that project and we will actually pay you. Not very much. Well not very much based on the kind of numbers we got this last week since it turns out that we're so dependent on iTunes it's pretty pathetic. You know we there was something that messed up somehow and and and iTunes cash like a 404 instead of our feed and you know We've been calling Apple and sending them messages and God knows what they're doing over there But if something hiccups somewhere in the system, it's like they cash stuff for maybe a week. I don't know but yeah, you're right No downloads for you

27:56 It's been pretty sad. Of course, the fact is my wife hasn't picked up the show for the last two or three weeks. She's been listening to the Michelle Malkin book on tape. Oh god. Wait a minute, let me do one. Oh brother. So, which by the way sounds like a pretty good piece of work, but you know Malkin style is not what it could be. So she has actually replaced this fine piece of audio programming for Michelle Malkin's audio book and why does it take her two weeks to listen to it? She only listens to it when she's driving Jay to school. Well why doesn't she just listen, I mean, that's an outrage. She only listens to our show when she's in the car. Divorce her. This has got to end.

CHAPTER 06 / 21 Discussion

Tom Friedman, Facebook Polls, Presidential Assassination Memes

New York Times columnist Tom Friedman's appearance on Bill Maher's show is analyzed, specifically his comments regarding a Facebook poll about killing the President. The hosts express concern that Friedman is "heating up the molecules" by discussing presidential assassination in a public forum. Friedman compares the current American political climate to the atmosphere in Israel prior to the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin.

tom friedman· bill maher· facebook· yitzhak rabin· assassination· secret service

28:52 There's the one that did that we talked about a couple of times actually I think I've got two more clips Yeah, you have free do you want to do Friedman as well? I'm a little done with Mar, but but this now let's know Let's do the two more things get them out of the way. We don't do them that much. Let's do Friedman first Okay, here's the one of course This is the one this is the meme that we're concerned about on the show which is the one that keeps bringing up that the assassination of a president in such a way that I find it distressing that it's even discussed. And I always thought you weren't even supposed to talk about stuff like this based on the laws. But it keeps coming up in the conversation and it's very annoying and here it is again. And this is by Tom Friedman who's a columnist for the New York Times. I'm reminded of the story that Gina Smith told me once when she was graduating from college. She had a journalism degree and the CIA approached her to become a writer for a newspaper.

29:47 and she was supposed to go work for a newspaper and then every so often she would have to put a story in there or she'd have to do something. She was like on the kind of going to be on the government payroll at the same time. I believe there's a bunch of people like that out there and when certain people seem to be who I don't There's certain people I can't say, you know, which ones for sure But they're always in the right place at the right time under certain weird circumstances And then they do these memes and this one really bothers me. I'm not saying that Friedman's a CIA guy No, but Friedman is the guy who writes about it. What is it? The the world is flat and now it's like the world is a crowded place and by the way, my girlfriend is flat It's like everything's flat with this guy this this this

30:30 but was preface by uh... marla was skeptically saying you know you never write about the union at the domestic policy guy why did you write this about why did you write this comment because the cia told him to john you're absolutely right solicitor usually right about domestic politics you wrote about this this week but we are worried me bill um... i happen to have been in israel when you talk about being was assassinated i'm sorry right before he was a sass and coincidents now now you suck robin wasn't he uh... what did he get assassinated with the without was that the the close-up gunshot i think so by the right wing not yeah you're right coincidence i think not there was uh... extremely ugly uh... characters of robin as a nazi uh... denunciations that he was a traitor and um... his opponents uh... winked at that

31:21 So why doesn't he stop fucking talking about it? He's the one heating up the molecules. be on his side and so he did and I wrote that column because I've been deeply concerned that when you go to Facebook and you read about it and sure only a tiny number of people went there that there's a poll and should someone kill the president you know yes no maybe and that by the way I don't think was the actual title of the poll should someone kill the president I don't think that's what it was

32:03 Think it was you know is there a chance of or something like that. I think he's already inciting shit just by misnoming the The poll if he takes away my health care That's not funny anymore, and it certainly wasn't if he takes away my health care um because you don't know what molecules are being heated well That would that was written by a kid Yeah, but there is but Trent Franks who's a congressman from Arizona called Obama an enemy of humanity What worries me bill is it's a process of gradual just delegitimation, you know And that's really I think what what people are trying to chip away here you delegitimize them and ultimately you weaken him and and But what worries me is in this crazy time. You never know who's listening. Yeah, exactly or who's watching the Bill Maher show? Frickin idiot

CHAPTER 07 / 21 Discussion

John L. Perry, Newsmax, Potential Military Intervention

An article by John L. Perry titled "Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention," which was briefly published on Newsmax before being removed, is discussed. The piece explores the remote possibility of a "civilized" or "bloodless" military coup in the United States as a last resort to resolve political tensions. The hosts note Perry's background as a former White House staffer for two presidents and speculate on why the column was retracted.

john l. perry· newsmax· military coup· barack obama· bloodless coup· white house staff

32:51 And then somewhere else in the program they referred to this article written by John L. Perry. on Newsmax, did you catch that? That was in that same segment. I cut it out, I had to cut a bunch of... You cut that out, but I went to Newsmax because I heard about this article that was like, wow, this is something... because John L. Perry was what, he was a high-ranking politician, wasn't he? I don't know who he is. Yeah, no, I think he was like... Well, what did you find out about him? Well, the column has been taken down by Newsmax. which I found interesting but of course this being the InkerNet I found a copy of it and I saved it John. Hey. And what he essentially wrote, I'll just give you the... Oh and by the way to interrupt you I want to remind everybody when you see a page that's kind of weird save it, save pages. Save pages. Title of the column Obama risks a domestic military intervention.

33:45 uh... first two paragraphs there's a remote although gaining possibility america's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve obama's the obama problem don't miss it don't dismiss it as unrealistic america isn't the third world of the military coup does it occur here it will be civilized though it has never happened doesn't mean it won't describing what may be a foot is not to advocate it so view the following through military eyes me goes on to cite a whole bunch of things about the Constitution, the right to bear arms, etc. And essentially what he's saying here is, you know, people would get so pissed off that there could be a military coup, they could basically make Obama, you know, kind of like a puppet, which you see happen in many, many countries around the world where the military basically controls it.

34:34 I have to say reading through this article, it's possible, certainly knowing that there is a feud going on right now and Thomas Friedman, I would have to assert that he probably is on the CIA payroll and they probably said, hey man, why don't you stoke those molecules up a little bit? Why don't you tell everybody that it's good, man, why don't you just go ahead and write that? Well he did remind everybody about the Facebook thing which I think a lot of people were not even aware of because it wasn't up that long. Now by the way, I want to remind people out there, and we do have a reference on the blog about this and I guess I could relink it. This was attempted, or there was a moderate attempt to do a military takeover of this country by the Democrats when Roosevelt was elected. John Perry is an award-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents. There you go.

35:24 So he wasn't actually a political official but he was in White House staff. And he talks about the bloodless coup. And for that column to be taken down also told me something. Yeah. You know, it's definitely weird. I don't like it. No, no, I don't like it either. So the last thing we'll do when we're stuck, this will be the end of Mar for a long time because it's always the same. It's always the same. So the thing is, I was thinking as I was watching the show and you were too, I'm thinking, well, where's his normal ageist, weird ageist, creepy ageist. Which by the way is no better or worse than racism. It's another ism. You can hate black people, you can hate white people, yellow people, red people,

36:11 Or old people! And I want to mention this by the way, when this ran, they kept cutting to Garofalo who was laughing her butt off because she said... She is an obvious ageist creep. Yeah play it a coked-out ageist creep. No Shut up, grandpa This week ancient pop singer Andy Williams announced he thinks Obama is a Marxist who wants the country to fail and then he made Moon River in his diapers Actually, it's not so shocking Andy Williams says Obama's a communist. It's shocking Andy Williams is alive He doesn't do shows he has viewings You know like a funeral anyway Yeah, and that bugs me he couldn't get through a show without it

CHAPTER 08 / 21 Discussion

Bill Maher, Andy Williams, Ageism in Media

The hosts criticize Bill Maher and Janine Garofalo for making "ageist" jokes about singer Andy Williams. After Williams called President Obama a Marxist, Maher mocked the singer's age and health. The hosts argue that ageism is a form of bigotry that the political left often ignores while claiming a moral high ground on other social issues.

bill maher· andy williams· ageism· janine garofalo· bigotry

35:24 So he wasn't actually a political official but he was in White House staff. And he talks about the bloodless coup. And for that column to be taken down also told me something. Yeah. You know, it's definitely weird. I don't like it. No, no, I don't like it either. So the last thing we'll do when we're stuck, this will be the end of Mar for a long time because it's always the same. It's always the same. So the thing is, I was thinking as I was watching the show and you were too, I'm thinking, well, where's his normal ageist, weird ageist, creepy ageist. Which by the way is no better or worse than racism. It's another ism. You can hate black people, you can hate white people, yellow people, red people,

36:11 Or old people! And I want to mention this by the way, when this ran, they kept cutting to Garofalo who was laughing her butt off because she said... She is an obvious ageist creep. Yeah play it a coked-out ageist creep. No Shut up, grandpa This week ancient pop singer Andy Williams announced he thinks Obama is a Marxist who wants the country to fail and then he made Moon River in his diapers Actually, it's not so shocking Andy Williams says Obama's a communist. It's shocking Andy Williams is alive He doesn't do shows he has viewings You know like a funeral anyway Yeah, and that bugs me he couldn't get through a show without it

37:10 But this was, and I think they had a little lower third there, Coote. They called Annie Williams a coot. Yeah, a coot. So I just don't think there's nothing worse than it being an ism of any kind. He's obviously bigoted and so is Garofalo and they're bigoted against people that are older than they are. But it's ageism, it's plain and simple. And it's funny because the left wing was always going on, we always expected the left wingers to be, you know, stick to a kind of a moral high ground on all these isms because they're the ones that make a big fuss about it. But boy, it didn't take long for them to turn on that one. And they don't even, you know, it's fine with them. Oh yeah, that's funny. I don't care about black people, Mexicans, I don't care about the old. It should be dead and useless.

CHAPTER 09 / 21 Discussion

Lisbon Treaty, Tony Blair, European Union Integration

Ireland's "yes" vote in the second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty is examined as a major step toward European integration. The hosts speculate that Tony Blair is being positioned to become the first President of the European Union. They also question the legitimacy of the 20% shift in the Irish vote within a single year and discuss the remaining holdouts, Poland and the Czech Republic.

lisbon treaty· ireland· tony blair· angela merkel· european union· poland· czech republic

38:02 And of course that hits you a little harder than it hurts me. No, of course. I'm a target. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you know what we do here on this show. It's very clear. The formula is damn simple. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And it really does work. We don't get paid a lot of money, but it does work. You know what's interesting is that we have enough memes in this show that there's a wiki page about the show which has all listed. Really? We have a Wikipedia page? Yeah, on this No Agenda wiki page. It's got all our memes are listed. It's pretty humorous actually. Oh yeah, the show is like a stereotype. So meanwhile while we're all obsessed with Bill Maher and of course we need to take a serious shot of Two to the Head of No Agenda to get us out and assassinate the media, a little thing happened over in Europe which you may have heard about John, namely the Irish

38:56 voted yes in round two of the Lisbon Treaty. Yep, we blogged it. And yeah, but you know I didn't see it spread wide across the universe. No, it was a miracle we found out about it. I can kind of tell you what's going to happen now. This has been the setup. So I guess now we have Poland and the Czech Republic. Those are the two holdouts. I guess they only have to ratify it. And then they're good to go. But you do know what's going to happen politically. You do know who's waiting in the wings to become president of the European Union, don't you? Who? Tony Blair. Tony Blair. Yeah, Tony Blair. He will become the president of Europe and will have Obama as the president of the United States. And it's going to be beautiful. It's all going to be fine. Please continue your shopping experience. Everything is good. Everything is okay.

39:56 They're fucked over there. I'm sorry. Yeah, well, it's a form of it's it'd be interesting to see how the Germans handled all this over the long haul. What do you mean the Germans? Well the Germans and the French, I can't see how they can put up with this kind of thing. No, they voted Merkel back in. And by the way, you know, I... That is pretty dumb. Merkel is like the blandest person in history over there. Are they using voting machines in the EU? Do they use voting machines in... I don't know, maybe one of our listeners in Germany can tell us. I bet you... I still have a huge distrust of voting machines. And I think there's a lot of, well we know that they're hackable, we know that there's manipulation possible, but to see a 20% increase in the yes vote all of a sudden, I mean literally within what, a year of the no vote?

40:50 Yeah, it makes no sense at all. And all it is, it's only delayed plans by a year because it was a year ago, it was like, oh, we have to have this done by October. It has to be done by October. Now, of course, they wanted it to happen by October because they knew that the entire financial crisis was coming and they needed to set up all of their world government, world financial system, world banking system. And so now, this is why it's pretty easy for me to predict the next drop the next shoe is literally going to drop, the economy is going to tank. And all economic indicators point towards it by the way. So I think that it's just in time, exactly what they wanted, they're going to come up with some bullshit assessment so that they can go ahead without the polls and the checks ratifying it.

41:41 and that will get our european army and uh... all you know of course ryanair and apple and all these guys will be real happy because they get all the tax breaks for helping to push this through an island and everybody else gets screwed get more nation east is now complete well not quite used to have the poland and check things out i don't i don't think it matters i think they're just gonna move move right along I don't think I just don't see it being a problem. Well you're probably right. And by the way you think that those no missiles in Poland had anything to do with it? Hey hey what you're not gonna ratify that? How about we take away these missiles Poland? How do you feel now bitch?

CHAPTER 10 / 21 Discussion

Roman Polanski Arrest, Rahm Emanuel, Hollywood Connections

The arrest of director Roman Polanski is framed as a potential publicity stunt to aid the distribution of his latest film. The hosts point out the connection to the Emanuel family, noting that Rahm Emanuel's brother, Ari, is a powerful Hollywood agent. They suggest a scenario where Polanski is eventually pardoned and returns to the U.S. to finish his career.

roman polanski· rahm emanuel· ari emanuel· hollywood· movie distribution

42:24 So I guess the Polanski thing is still going on and by the way there's another kind of element to it that should be mentioned. Really? We have to? Yeah, because I still think it's part of a scheme to get his movie in distribution and you have to remember that Rahm Emanuel's brother is in the business. Oh, that's right. He's Ari Fleischer. He's a producer. No, he's an agent. Oh, he's an agent, right. But if he did the deal, here's what my scenario is. The thing kind of boils over, the movie gets into production, Obama pardons him. He comes back to the United States to Hollywood and then produces another movie here and then he retires. Good one. Can I just go back to world finances for a moment?

CHAPTER 11 / 21 Discussion

World Bank Funding, SDR Currency, Japanese Finance Minister Death

World Bank President Robert Zoellick's warning that the bank will run out of money within 12 months is discussed alongside the G20's push for Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) as a global currency. The segment also covers the suspicious death of former Japanese Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa, who was found dead in his home after a previous public incident where he appeared drugged or intoxicated at a G7 meeting.

robert zoellick· world bank· sdr· g20· shoichi nakagawa· international finance

43:14 You apparently, yeah I guess I have no choice. Robert Zoylik, the president of the World Bank has said, oh by the way we're going to run out of money in 12 months. Yeah. Speaking at the opening of the IMF and World Bank annual meetings in Istanbul, which of course we know how incredibly important Turkey is these days in everything, said the bank needs capital increase of as much as 11.1 billion dollars to keep functioning He said he really hoped that its shareholders, including the UK and other leading nations, would decide on resources before its spring meeting next April. This is the redistribution of the wealth on a grand scale, is what this is. And meanwhile, the SDRs keep cropping up. This will be our new form of currency, it seems, as that's what the G20 is going to use as the world currency, the computerized currency, special drawing rights.

44:07 And no one's really saying anything. It's like, hey, yeah, you know, I think it's really a good idea. We should all have, you know, like one kind of money and all the banks should be working together. Yeah, this is really good. All the central banks should really be colluding together. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Hey, let's go to Macy's. So the Japanese finance minister from the last party killed himself. Well, I don't think that's what we knew. Let's just call it suicided. This was the guy who was drunk at that... Supposedly drunk. I think he was drugged. Yeah, well, they tried then and they didn't get away with it. Or didn't take enough of his cold medicine or whatever. Yeah, I think you're right. It's really dangerous to be in international finance. We cannot say it often enough. Kids, if you're studying to go into international finance, stop. You might as well just stop. You have a likelihood of dying between your 40th and 50th birthday. If you know too much. Yeah, apparently.

45:08 So yeah, I know that first the guy was known for being you know kind of a sober character And then he all of a sudden he shows up drunk drunk and drugged and babbling this I mean the thing that was the giveaway wasn't most people when they're drunk. There's a there's like they're just drunk I mean, you know, they they they slur their words and they have all these issues, but they don't talk about you know strange You know, there's not hallucinating So he's dead now. Yeah. Yeah, it happens to the best of them. I all around that between 40 and 50 he may have been it seems like it was probably closer to 50 but yeah he's dead in bed yeah just wise wise wakes up oh he's dead okay right ooooh kidoki meanwhile the biggest hoodwink I would have to say of the past month was this whole bullshit trip Obama made to Copenhagen

CHAPTER 12 / 21 Discussion

Obama Copenhagen Trip, Secret Russia Visit Theory

President Obama's brief trip to Copenhagen for the Chicago Olympic bid is characterized as a diversionary tactic. The hosts theorize that Obama may have made a secret stop in Russia to meet with Vladimir Putin, citing unusual flight timelines and the presence of two Air Force One aircraft. They suggest the one-hour stay in Denmark was insufficient to justify the $1.5 million travel cost unless another diplomatic mission was involved.

barack obama· copenhagen· olympics· vladimir putin· air force one· chicago 2016

46:05 Well everyone's like, oh yes he's going to, and of course Fox News jumps on this and this was the big Fox News distraction this week is, you know, don't look at what's happening with the Lisbon Treaty, don't look at what's happening in Europe, please don't look at anything, don't look at the finance minister, no because Obama is trying to get the Olympics to come to Chicago. But I really don't believe it had anything to do, I think it was a diversionary tactic. There are reports that he stopped off in Russia. on the way to Copenhagen there are reports from where I looked at from Russia from Russia you you found some information on the web somehow that he stopped in Russia yes I did the timings on this by the way takes over seven hours and 55 minutes in Washington DC to Copenhagen takes 11 hours at 11 and a half hours to get the Moscow

46:58 which means is about four hours to get to copenhagen from moscow but you think that you know they're international traffic control is always it things i don't know i guess you know that i have not normally i would say okay highly unlikely john except we know that uh... Netanyahu did a secret mission to go visit Putin. It was denied and oh no it's not possible and then they found some records and they got a couple of flight logs somehow and then all of a sudden it's like oh well, shit busted, you got us. Yeah, he made a secret visit over to Putin. So why is it unthinkable? It's just not. And I don't think, you know, we would have to really look at the departure logs of Air Force One. And by the way, who says that he wasn't actually on the plane with Michelle Obama that went over a day ahead of time? Who knows? I don't know this.

47:43 No, they don't keep us apprised of his timeline very well. Of course they don't. Now, I was thinking about this possibility. First of all, I think it's possible that looking at what timelines we do have available, it's possible that... And what is Michelle going over there on a separate plane for anyway? That was the diversionary tactic. Obama went over a day before on that plane. There's something about it. For that very reason, it's all suspicious. And he also had a meeting with the guy from Afghanistan in the plane. There's some photos of that. He was in London, I guess, at a seminar.

48:24 Yeah, the whole thing is kind of funky. The only reason I'm kind of maybe buying your theory here is because he shows up at the Olympic thing, he only spent an hour and he apparently, according to the people that were at the committee, they thought he was rude the way he came in and made his presentation. He came in really late and bopped out after an hour, right? He was in and out. Yeah, he was in and out. So in other words, he spent all that you $1.5 million supposedly to take that plane to Copenhagen and back in costs of all the extra people and all the things you have to do. And I guess they have to pay Denmark some money for all the service that they have to provide. And by the way, there are two Air Force Ones. Yes, there's two big jets and they fly both of them usually.

49:10 And so he goes over there for one hour and then jumps back in his plane and comes back. You're right. I mean, it would make... It makes no sense. This is like when I travel, for example, say I had a speech to give in Paris. I am not going to go fly to Paris and then fly back and kill myself. If I'm going to be in Paris, while I'm there, I might as well do some other things since I'm there. I don't go there all the time. And doesn't he take every single opportunity wherever he goes to go make a little public appearance, do a little thing, do a little thing here, do a little thing there? No, he didn't take any of that time as usual. Why? Because he went to see Putin. It may have been on the way back. That's also possible.

49:50 You know because there was just too many planes too many things going on and there was a whole bunch of distractions here at home ie the Roman Polanski thing there's a lot of stuff going on and People aren't paying attention to that the press certainly isn't paying attention to it and we have all these you know most Americans Smoke comes out of their ear when they try to figure out the time zone difference for making a freaking international phone call let alone try and figure out flight schedules and when someone might have landed and Okay, so let's say what would he go to Russia for? He would go to Russia to basically... I think there's more than one answer. Well, okay, the answer I think is that...

CHAPTER 13 / 21 Discussion

CIA Conflict, Afghanistan Troop Requests, Olympic Bid Failure

The discussion shifts to internal conflicts between the Obama administration, the CIA, and military commanders regarding troop surges in Afghanistan. The hosts suggest Obama's alleged trip to Russia might have been a plea for help amidst domestic military pressure. They also mock the State Department's reaction to Chicago's last-place finish in the Olympic voting process.

cia· afghanistan· military commanders· olympic committee· chicago· state department

50:28 He's basically asking for help because the military, the CIA, the military, it's all in total disarray. I think you and I pretty much agree that the CIA is against Obama and he put this kind of like uber control above all of the agencies. No one knows where they get their money from except of course from the drugs which are flowing from Afghanistan. And now the troops on the ground who are running the drugs back from Afghanistan to the US, which funds the CIA, they're asking for more troops. They want 40,000 more and no decisions are being made. And there was a meeting on Wednesday

51:14 With let me see there was some meeting going on with all the top of the military And I don't and I think Obama was like there was some anger somewhere. I'm just let me see if there's a AP news report But you know that what's leaking out is that The the the commanders on the ground have asked for more troops and the president says he hasn't even had time to read the report You know I think he went to Russia and said dude help me and I need some help here. I really do. I mean there's been all this cozying up to Russia anyway. He basically said, dude, I got no power. I need some help over here. I'm not going to say it's not a possibility. I think if he was going to go to Russia, it would have something to do with the Iran situation and the fact that the Israeli guys are going to Russia.

52:07 I think it's just a part of something weird is going to happen. Well don't forget we have that John Perry article about the bloodless coup, about the army taking over. I mean why would this guy write it if he didn't have some kind of information? The guy's clearly an insider. So maybe there's something going on. Maybe there really is. Yeah, well something's up. It's weird. I mean there's too much, you know, this trip to Copenhagen was a joke. I mean, and of course the right-wingers instead of concentrating on anything else, they just concentrate on the waste of money. So all the right-wing talk shows, and then they were happy, didn't get the, by the way, there was a funny press briefing on C-SPAN with the State Department, and one of the reporters asked the

52:52 the State Department official about the Olympic bid and do we think we were humiliated by the fact that we came in last in the voting? And then you think it was part of the TSA, because our TSA is so strict and it's so hard to get into the country that we're not friendly and the guy says, well, he says, I don't think it's that, but he went on and on. Then he turns over to his assistant who says, oh wait, no, we didn't come in last, we came in fourth. Yeah, that's great. How many people were, how many countries were contenders? Four? That's alright, Timmy. You didn't come in last, you came in fourth. Alright, time once again. As it looks like we've got the first shipments of the H1N1 flu vaccine expected in Los Angeles in just one week from now.

CHAPTER 14 / 21 Discussion

H1N1 Vaccine, Nasal Spray, CDC Vaccination Information Statements

The rollout of the H1N1 nasal spray vaccine is analyzed using CDC Vaccination Information Statements (VIS). The hosts highlight specific warnings, such as the exclusion of pregnant women and adults over 50 from the nasal version, and the legal limitations on suing for vaccine injuries. They also note that while the federal government calls the vaccine voluntary, state laws or employers may mandate it.

h1n1· swine flu· nasal spray· cdc· vaccine injury· guillain-barre syndrome· kathleen sebelius

53:50 And this will be the nasal spray, the nasal version of the vaccine which is just all of a sudden cropped up. I had no idea. I thought vaccines were always administered. No, this nasal administration is nothing new, but it did just crop up. Yeah, all of a sudden. Like a couple weeks ago. You never heard of it. People talking about adjuvants and we're talking this on and we're reading as much as we can on it. We're looking at all the research and everything in between. And then all of a sudden this stuff shows up on the market. Huh? Yeah. And there was a, unfortunately,

54:27 There was a thing was on, what was it, I don't remember which day it was now, maybe it was Friday, there was supposed to be a live White House chat with video and Sibelius was supposed to be on this live video. And I'm like, yeah, okay, 5.30 Eastern, 2.30 Pacific, I'm ready to go, I'm sitting there, and the thing's just not loading. And so I start twittering about it, and everyone around the world is getting exactly the same experience, there's no video loading, I guess they had some technical difficulties, but it was no coincidence this was happening because it was on the same day that I got a CDC alert, and they have released what is known as a VIS,

55:13 a vaccination information statement and you can get these at immunize.org slash vis or through the CDC website and so I downloaded the fact sheet essentially and there are a couple and so there's been a lot of questions about who is this for who's supposed to go first what's going to happen with this and they have two fact sheets one is for the live attenuated vaccine, that's the nasal spray, and then they have the inactivated, which is the flu shot. Do you know what the difference is?

55:52 Between the two? No, I mean I always thought they were all live attenuated. I thought that was the nature of these shots. Well, okay, well so the spray vaccine is the live attenuated and the shot is the inactive and I'm not quite sure what that means. So there's a couple... We'll get a note in the mail. Yeah, so yes we will. So there's a couple different points here. And this is essentially I guess what the media uses, what doctors use, what everyone uses to answer all the questions. It's like an FAQ instead of a VIS, it's an FAQ. So I'll just read through a couple of the headlines and then get to the good stuff. So what is the H1N1 influenza? They say,

56:36 2009 H1N1 influenza sometimes called swine flu was caused by a new strain of influenza virus. It has spread to many countries. Great. Most people feel better within a week, but some people get pneumonia or other serious illnesses. Some people have to be hospitalized and some die. That's like nice. How is it different from regular seasonal flu? I'll skip that. Now the vaccine. Vaccines are available to protect against 2001 H1N1 influenza. These vaccines are made just like seasonal flu vaccines. A lie. They are expected to be as safe and effective as seasonal flu vaccines. A lie. They will not prevent influenza-like illnesses caused by other viruses. Probably true. So here's what you need to know. Children through nine years of age should get two doses of the vaccine about one month apart. Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop.

57:29 If it's just like the seasonal flu vaccine, which covers four different versions of the flu every time they formulate it, then why would you need twice as much if it's exactly the same? Well, here we go. So this vaccine is approved from people 2 through 49 years of age who are not pregnant and do not have certain health conditions. See number five, we'll get to that in a second. Groups recommended to receive the vaccine are healthy people who are from ages 2 through 24 and are from 25 through 49 years of age

58:07 That's like basically saying the same as 2 through 50. I don't know why they separate it out. Maybe if you're 24 and a half. As more vaccines become available, other healthy 25 through 49 year olds should also be vaccinated. Oh, if you're 25 through 49 and you live with or care for infants younger than 6 months of age or are healthcare or emergency medical personnel, you need to get it. This is a great one. The federal government is providing this vaccine for receipt on a voluntary basis. However, state law or employers may require vaccination for certain persons. It says it right there. State law. So your state, like New Jersey, which is now mandating all children be vaccinated, otherwise no school for you. State law can mandate it.

59:04 And here's the here's a good one vaccine injury compensation if you or your child has a reaction to the vaccine Your ability to sue is limited by law just so you know that it's really true the shit that we've been saying all this time and This is a real giveaway. Some people who should not get the vaccine or should wait. So first of all, if you have a severe, which means life-threatening allergy to eggs or any other substance in the vaccine, okay, because they're made in eggs I guess, even though we spent a couple billion on non-egg development, should not be given to the following groups. Children younger than 2, adults 50 years or older. John, you're in the clear.

59:48 Yes, pregnant women should not receive the vaccine. Okay? Now there's been a lot of talk about them that they should be receiving it. In fact, even first, so they should not. Anyone with a weakened immune system, anyone with long-term health problems, and they list a couple of them. Children younger than five years with asthma, anyone with certain muscle or nerve disorders, and blah, blah, blah, blah. Tell your... It's almost like an ad. Tell your doctor if you've ever had A, a life-threatening allergic reaction after a dose of seasonal flu vaccine, or here it comes, Guillain-Barre syndrome. Guillain. Yeah, that one.

CHAPTER 15 / 21 Discussion

Vitamin D3 Therapy, Codex Alimentarius, Zombieland Movie

A discussion on alternative health suggests that high doses of Vitamin D3 can prevent the flu, though the hosts warn that such supplements may eventually be restricted under Codex Alimentarius. This leads to a review of the film "Zombieland," starring Woody Harrelson and Jesse Eisenberg, which the hosts praise for its humor and a surprise cameo by Bill Murray.

vitamin d3· alternative medicine· codex alimentarius· zombieland· woody harrelson

1:00:29 If you've had that, you should tell your doctor. Usually your doctor would have known at some point. So I went to my doctor and he said, I said, what do you think about this flu shot? He says, I think Americans are over vaccinated. You've been over vaccinated. He did bring something up that apparently, you know, he's like, I wouldn't say he's a hippie doctor, but you know, he's He's into alternative everything and he's a good doctor. But he says the latest thing going on, and he just kind of mentioned it and I started researching and I haven't quite researched it enough to get any really good links. He says the hot thing going on right now is this vitamin D3 therapy. I think we even talked about this on the show that people who get a lot of vitamin D which is basically sunshine is the best

1:01:22 source of vitamin D that they will probably not even get the swine flu at all. But D3 in huge doses, they keep testing the toxicity levels of D3, turns out to be extremely high. He said that in my case, he says typically if he has a feeling of onset of the flu, he'll take 100,000 IU's. I'm not recommending this for anybody, but I'm just telling you what he told me. 100,000 I use for three days and it'll knock it out. He says, since I'm a big guy, I can easily take 150, which I thought was semi-insulting, but besides that. But the problem is if you go to Costco, the typical D3s are 400 a pill, which means you have to take two bottles of the stuff.

1:02:11 and you have to be careful that you don't have the ones with the vitamin A in it. You have to get pure D3. And so he tossed me a bottle of 5000 IUD3, which apparently that one bottle will carry... you just use that whole bottle up over three days and you... It's a thought that's going... it's the meme amongst these sorts of doctors who are always looking for some way not to give themselves another flu shot. Well, I'm sure that will be outlawed soon enough. Yes, I'm sure it will. Of course it will. I'll say it again, the Codex Alimentarius, they're going to outlaw all of these supplements, all vitamins. If they're not FDA approved, you won't be able to take them. Oh, that'll happen. Absolutely.

1:02:54 Absolutely, but it there's a great movie that Christina and I saw Friday night which Kind of plays along with this. It's zombie land with Woody Harrelson. Yeah, how is that? Very funny. So the idea is mad cow disease morphed into mad human disease and then made everybody zombies and of course, you know the rule of zombies if you get bitten by a zombie then you turn into a zombie and Everyone everyone knows everyone knows that Funny very very funny movie if you just want to go see some gratuitous violence and Funny stuff and Bill Murray in this movie is awesome, and you didn't even know he was in there So it's kind of a spoiler. Yeah, well Murray and and Harrelson worked together before in Kingpins which is one of the weirdest funny movies ever

CHAPTER 16 / 21 Discussion

Law and Order Product Placement, Gardasil Vaccine Marketing

The hosts describe a recent episode of "Law & Order" featuring a storyline about the papilloma virus as a form of pharmaceutical product placement. They compare this to elaborate marketing packages for the Gardasil vaccine found on college campuses. The segment argues that television networks integrate drug promotion directly into scripts to serve their advertisers.

law and order· papilloma virus· gardasil· product placement· nbc universal· vaccine marketing

1:03:44 Guy as a guy's movie the women all find the movie distasteful. Yeah. No. Well, this was Christina and I both were vibing on this movie was definitely good So by the way, I didn't make a clip of this where I got a couple more clips I like to play but I didn't make a clip of this but because it was kind of boring but somebody did burn me on Twitter that knowing that I saw it which was in the last episode of Law & Order this week uh... the chief the the woman who runs the department of police department said she's the head squad leader of the uh... sergeant which he has but it's titled

1:04:23 She's the supervisor. She's in with her doctor and her doctor's telling her that she's got the papilloma virus. Oh no, you're kidding me. She's got it. Oh no. And then they have a long discussion about, well, you could have gotten vaccinated. You could have been saved. You know, it's just exploiting. Tell people again, how expensive is that vaccination? I believe it's $350 a shot and it's a series of three. You get two at the doctor and I've heard some reports where the doctor says, hey, here's a syringe, do your last one at home. Go ahead, self-medicate yourself. But we got a Twitter from someone who received a marketing package hung on their doorknob at their dorm in college.

1:05:10 And this package, I mean it was beautiful. It had the spin wheel in there to determine if you were right for the vaccine. It had fold outs, flip outs, shifting. And everything on the wheel said yes. Yeah, you. Yes, you. And we thought somewhere between five and ten bucks a pop to make this particular packet. I mean it's gorgeous. and it's encased in plastic. And so, yeah, this is a huge money maker for Cerevix, I think it's Cerevix, and Gardasil. Yeah, Gardasil. I think that was a Gardasil one, wasn't it? Whatever the case is, I'm thinking, and I don't... I'm thinking that NBC Universal is not the network that's kicking butt and they have a lot of drug commercials on that network. It seems to me that somebody said, can you help us? It's product placement, John. It's not just can you help me, it's product placement. There's no difference between that and the cups of Coke on American Idol. There's no difference. They just write it right in.

CHAPTER 17 / 21 Discussion

American Police Force, Michael Hilton, Hardin Montana Prison

The investigation into the American Police Force (APF) and its leader, Michael Hilton, reveals a history of criminal felonies and aliases. Hilton, who attempted to take over a prison in Hardin, Montana, is linked to Serbian paramilitary symbols and is described as a "warlord" from the former Yugoslavia. The hosts express alarm at how a convicted con man could lead a private military organization.

american police force· michael hilton· hardin montana· private military· serbia

1:06:09 Yeah. And let's face it, the writers are like, man, finally another storyline. We were kind of out of ideas anyway. This is a good one. Let's take that. That's excellent. Little follow up on Hardin, Montana, where apparently a police force has descended upon the prison there. and some interesting research has been done about the leader of the APF which you can find interestingly at it's not American Police Force but AmericanPoliceGroup.com Michael Hilton is the guy's name who runs this outfit

1:06:49 And so he has quite a rap sheet. 14 felonies, 10 counts of grand theft, 1 count of attempted grand theft, 3 counts of diversion of construction funds. That's according to Orange County court records. Sentenced to 2 years in prison. Although of course unclear how much time he served. And then we connected some interesting dots. Someone twittered you that their coat of arms, their shield if you will, because of course they have to have a great emblem. And you've got to take a look at this website for this outfit, because they do everything from hostage negotiations to international protection a la Blackwater. Someone pointed out that their coat of arms look like, was it a Bosnian coat of arms? Serbia. Serbia, I'm sorry, Serbia. And it turns out in some of this research

1:07:36 that this guy Hilton that his real name or that is let's say he legally change his name to Michael Hilton but he has used aliases of Midroglia Dokovich and Michael Miodrag and it turns out that this guy was some kind of a warlord in the former Yugoslav Republic. So this guy is just like a thug. He's a thug. He's a thug with all kinds of ambitions. I mean, this guy, jeez. I mean, it's unbelievable how far some people can get when they're just focused. Yeah. That's interesting you say that. But yeah, you can kind of do everything if you're really focused on it, even if you're like a warlord and a con. And a con, and you've been arrested a million times and you're out.

CHAPTER 18 / 21 Discussion

Military Training in Kentucky, Football Game Propagandism

The militarization of American culture is discussed through two examples: a 101st Airborne training mission conducted on private farmland in Kentucky and a live swearing-in ceremony for new recruits during a University of California football game. The hosts criticize these events as propagandistic displays designed to "wow the locals" and normalize military presence in civilian life.

101st airborne· fort campbell· kentucky· university of california· military recruitment· propaganda

1:08:29 And were you following this exercise the military did in... where the hell was that? In Newton... well now I can't find out what state this was. Newton, Massachusetts? No, it wasn't... It's only Newton I know of offhand. In a matter of hours, hundreds of soldiers will converge on Obeyan County. Soldiers from the US Army's 101st Airborne Division based at Fort Campbell, Kentucky

1:09:06 are scheduled to arrive starting this afternoon. An impressive convoy of military vehicles, complete with helicopters flying overhead that will travel along Kentucky's Purchase Parkway, cross the state line into Obeyan County. At press time, estimated the convoy would start arriving between 1 and 2 p.m. 300 soldiers in total will be in and around Troy all day Wednesday for a special training mission that will help prepare them for real combat scenarios. In Kentucky, apparently! The action is set to start caravan about 50 military vehicles roll into the Duggar family farm near Troy to set up camp. It's just kind of weird that they're setting up these huge... I mean don't we have like Afghanistan to do that shit? Can we go train them for real over there? Why do you have to train in Kentucky? Just to show a show of power. Yeah, I think you're right. To wow the locals. Yeah, there was an opportunity to view the helicopters that afternoon. But I don't know.

1:10:05 Well, this is a, you know, this militarization of the country's mentality. I mean, like I'm reminded of the football game I mentioned before that I went to some weeks back and in the during the halftime, they at this at the University of California, which is normally accepted that they've, you know, they basically Dossett made everyone docile there by getting rid of the students that you know, would would protest. and they were swearing in a bunch of kids into the army in the middle of the field. What? What, they did the swearing in right there during the game? Before the game? No, at the halftime ceremony.

1:10:42 We're watching the game and the band comes out, and they go back and forth and back and forth. And then a bunch of military guys come out with a bunch of kids who are wearing the civilian clothes, you know, the kids with the shorts. Wait a minute, was this an Army-Navy game or what was this? No, it was a game against University of California versus Maryland. Well, this is not okay. And so they march these kids out and then they make them give them the oath, you know They the oath that they have to say and they're all doing it in unison When and then they kids more they march them off the field and everyone cheers Wow, and then and then when we see pictures of it of China who had their their big celebration there was it 60 60th anniversary of something and

1:11:33 And we have the revolution of the revolution right and we see all the Chinese soldiers lined up. We're all freaked out Oh, no, oh, no, they've got an army and they can stand in an exact straight line But meanwhile, we're doing exactly the same thing during our football games Chinese by the way, I was appalled by it I mean, I don't care that people want to join the army But what is the point of doing this in the middle of a football game? It's a propagandistic thing. It is ridiculous. It is appalling John I agree with you And by the way, the Chinese, they use some special weather systems to make it a beautiful day. Did you hear about that? Yeah, they're using, they're really going crazy with the silver iodide over there. You think it's not cloud busting? You don't think it's orgone machines?

CHAPTER 19 / 21 Discussion

FDIC Funding Crisis, Bank Runs, Great Depression Comparisons

The FDIC's financial instability is highlighted, with reports indicating the insurance fund is billions of dollars short of what is needed to guarantee $4.8 trillion in deposits. The hosts explain that the FDIC is now borrowing money back from the very banks it is supposed to regulate. They warn of potential inflation and bank runs, drawing parallels to the economic conditions of 1933.

fdic· treasury department· bank runs· inflation· federal reserve· new york times

1:12:19 It's silver iodide is what they do. I've ordered my materials. Yeah, okay. I've ordered my stuff. If you do something wrong, you're going to end up like a Wilford, you know, person. You're going to look like Mr. Burns on The Simpsons. Okay. It'll be buzzkill and the other buzzkill. Two buzzkills. That's no good. We can't have that. The, uh, I'm gonna call it again a run on the banks. I'm just gonna call it because it's getting, it's heating up this, uh, FDIC borrowing money from the banks. There's more art. Now the Times is writing about it. Uh, so here are the numbers.

1:12:59 The FDIC is essentially in the hole for about $4 trillion. So that's our money, right? That's the guarantee of our money should a bank go down the tubes that the government will guarantee your deposit previously up to $100,000 now up to $250,000. So they don't have the money. And they are by law, if I'm reading this article properly, by law they're allowed to borrow from the Treasury $100 billion immediately and up to $500 billion with the approval of the Treasury Secretary and the Federal Reserve. But still you're like 75% short. And so now they're going back to the banks who essentially have our money in the first place which we gave them and they're going to borrow that.

1:13:51 and they don't even have to put it on the books this is the best thing. Didn't you bring this up on Thursday isn't this a rerun? Yeah but this is now in the New York Times and now we're getting more details now we have the actual numbers it's really happening and this is exactly You know why the FDIC is in place which is supposed to be this. I'm just yeah, I am repeating myself. You're right It's exactly why I'm doing it is because this is what happened in 1930s There was a lot of the horn when you do that. Yeah, no problem. Here we go created in 1933 to restore confidence and arrest a wave of bank runs that contributed to the Great Depression the insurance fund now stands behind some 4.8 trillion dollars in deposits Unfortunately, there is no money

1:14:40 So when your bank goes down, at best inflation is going to go up because the Fed will have to print more money to give it back to you. You know what you know what I'm doing tomorrow. I'm running on my own bank How's our bank do you think our bank will be okay John? Yeah, you know our bank is the bank with the little with the letter or with the little for one thing They didn't do a bunch of mortgages They never got involved in that scam right and they have a little I've got the biggest kick out of going in there And there's a little newspaper article saying you know our bank which I will you know I should don't mention it refuses to take

1:15:19 the government's bailout. We don't need it. So here's what I recommend. Since there's going to be this huge run on the bank, since we will be basically buying bread with wheelbarrows full of money, please send us money this week because now it actually means something. Now we can still actually use that money like getting a manager to run the stream etc. You tell me if in the next week, I'll make this deal with you, if in the next week you hear anywhere on any mainstream news outlet, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, Fox News, if they actually mention anything about your money, your money in your bank account being unsafe, don't send us anything, okay? Because they're not going to, because that is what you get on this program and this program only.

CHAPTER 20 / 21 Discussion

Producer Donations, iTunes Technical Failure, Meveo Search Traffic

The hosts read the names of recent donors, including Sterling Ellsworth and Liam Hemings, while lamenting a significant drop in contributions due to the iTunes feed failure. They express frustration with Apple's lack of support for the show despite its high search ranking on Meveo. Listeners are encouraged to bypass iTunes and donate directly via the show's website to support the new streaming project.

donations· paypal· itunes· meveo· podcast awards· sterling ellsworth

1:16:15 You're pounding a table? I'm pounding my laptop. Oh, geez, don't do that. So we only... so because of the... this is how dependent we are on Apple, obviously, and I think it's distressing. We only had five donations over 50 bucks from the last show. And by the way, Our show, moving ahead, we're exposing some really interesting things and then all of a sudden Apple decides to show a 404 on our feed. Coincidence? I think not! So let's at least mention our friends here. Sterling Ellsworth, $77.77 from Santa Barbara.

1:16:53 Matthew Fanon in Lexington, Kentucky, 53. I think he's given us money a couple times now. We do have some regulars who seem to come up every couple months and give us more like Liam Hemings in Buckinghamshire, UK, 75. I think it's Buckinghamshire. Buckinghamshire. I think you say shire. Yeah, right, right. Buckinghamshire. Buckinghamshire. Buckinghamshire. Yeah, Robert Slate SLA ght. I think it's slight or slight slate in Queen What a name of a town Queen Creek, Arizona $100. Thank you and Matthias market or Mercat 69 95 and he's in Rothman Munster Deutschland so we do have overseas listeners. Thank you. Now. I want to mention that

1:17:45 That was it that that's what came in. That's it. Geez and by the way, you know a lot of times I'll take Money in our PayPal account and I'll give it to other sites that have donate donation buttons as well because they're doing good reporting And so we donate back to sites all around the internet, you know, it's kind of like I don't know like a system It kind of works except we don't have derivatives and we don't lie about your money being safe when it's not really safe. I So, uh, the guy in the hall in the white rabbit, can you pronounce his name for us? J-E-R-O-E-N?

1:18:25 Jeroen Muelman, M-E-U-L-M-A-N Muelman, Muelman, Jeroen Muelman, Jeroen Muelman. It's a good thing you're here. Yeah. I knew there was a point. He said that when he gave us that weird amount of $50 plus $25, he says the $25 was on behalf of that crackpot that keeps harassing the show. We have a troll. Anyway, yeah, that's the best we could do I would hope some people would give us a better hand But again, if nobody's listening to the show, my wife's listening to Mike Michelle Malkin and and but it wouldn't make any difference because she takes the show off iTunes So she wouldn't be able to get the show. Anyway, yeah, it really sucks. Let me have you checked if if we're back up No, I haven't checked cuz I take direct links. I don't use my iTunes much and

1:19:24 But because I don't trust it, but there is there is a lot of downloads that come through iTunes. I'll tell you it's it's it's pretty significant and Yeah, well to the point that we got five lousy donations I would hope you would go to no agenda show calm or Dvorak org slash na and Give us a hand this next week so we can kind of make up for this this last week, which was terrible Let me just see if if the feed is responding again in the iTunes Store. Hold on a second. I No agenda. Yeah, I hit subscribe. Yeah subscribe What does it say? I hate how iTunes works? No, then you get to shame that yeah, then you gotta go back and you gotta go no agenda you get where is it? Still not working crap. I hate that here it is Meevo comm slash 404 dot PHP could not be found on the server. These guys are caching everything. I

1:20:27 So somewhere there's a hiccup, you know, whatever happens, which it happens from time to time. It's the internet, right? So shit just happens. And so maybe they got a 404, maybe we fucked up, it doesn't matter. We've checked everything a million times, you know, all of our shit is right. We know what feed URL has been submitted. We send messages to everybody. You know, we're supposed partner of Apple. We're one of the four companies, the only commercial one that has its own page that we have tools to manage on iTunes, yet we can't get the fucking time of day when it comes to a serious problem. This is a big show for MeVeo when it comes to search traffic. Yeah, you type in MeVeo, you'll find our show shows up at the top of the Google search. Yeah, this is a huge deal. And so what do we get? No love. Which leads me to think that there's maybe there's something more going on. I don't know. It's possible.

CHAPTER 21 / 21 Discussion

Erin Andrews Stalking Arrest, Lockerbie Witness Payoff, Sign-off

The arrest of Michael David Barrett for stalking ESPN reporter Erin Andrews is briefly covered, with the hosts questioning the use of federal resources for the case. They also mention a $3 million payoff to a witness in the Lockerbie bomber case. The episode concludes with a call for listeners to vote for the show in the upcoming Podcast Awards before the final sign-off.

erin Andrews· espn· fbi· michael david barrett· lockerbie bomber· podcast awards

1:21:20 Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, it's possible. Because, you know, let's face it, this show is a nuisance show. Yeah, we are quite irritating. Let's be honest about it. And now, back to Real News. Right, on the cusp, another hero bites the dust. John, this is very sad Real News. A Chicago area man was arrested at O'Hare Airport. Michael David Barrett arrested Friday night as he arrived on a flight from Buffalo, New York. He faces federal charges of interstate stalking for taping surreptitious nude videos of ESPN reporter Aaron Andrews.

1:21:57 Man, they went through all that trouble to track this guy down? Who cares? Yeah. They got him. The feds went after him because of the Aaron Andrews, who cares, Aaron Andrews Google post? Yeah, you know post yeah, no that's not possible. Yes. We got better things to do with our money Andrews thanked FBI agents and federal prosecutors for their work on the arrest it's like this is more important to her than Rolling up a terror cell. It's like you have really saved humanity For my part she says I will make every effort to strengthen the laws on state and federal level to better protect victims of criminal stalking

1:22:41 Was she being stalked or was this just a goofy video the guy wanted to make? And if he was stalking her, how come he's in Chicago? I don't know. I don't make it up. I just report the news. Barrett made a reservation at a Milwaukee hotel where she stayed in July 2008. They found her door's peephole similarly rigged. So there was a reverse peephole. Yeah. Amazing. How do you do that though? I mean, can you kick can you move the people from the outside or oh, I seriously doubt that So he has to get in the room somehow which is probably not that hard. Yeah, maybe huh? Well, whatever the case is it seems like a waste of resources unless the guy was a genuine stalker and it was like bread like a problem But then again, this sounds like a you know interstate You know crime task force the vent. Well, I thought he was

1:23:45 onto something there. We never got to Letterman. I don't care we did so much mainstream stuff. I think the whole Letterman thing was just another distraction so we wouldn't notice that Obama was going to Russia. We didn't get to the Lieberman clips. And we didn't get to the fact that the United States paid off one of the original witnesses in convicting McGrahey, the Lockerbie Bomber who was set free. Oh, they did. Yeah, three three million dollars. Hey, that's a way to get a witness Yeah, no, I think we've pretty much covered it John. All right Well, I would advise people to go to the know agenda show comm and of art that or slash na and help us out this week since we're we Can't seem to get on iTunes and this is killing us. Yeah, we're we're seriously behind Oh, and hey, by the way, can't we darn we eligible for a podcast award John? I

1:24:45 Yeah, what award are you thinking of? Well, uh... Let's see, it won't be best produced. I don't know. People's Choice? People's Choice, that's an idea. We probably have enough people to promote that. I think voting opens today. Where? At podcastawards.com. Okay. Hook a brother up. Alright, coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, under threat of eminent domain, unfair abuse of, I'm Adam Curry, and still reeling from the miserable football game that crummy Cal Bears gave us. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again Thursday right here on No Agenda.