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00:01 You know, when you talk like that, I actually get hard. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's October 1st, 2009. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 135. This is no agenda. Unsure if we have a government or not today at the start of the country's new fiscal year and coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California. I'm Adam Curry. And it's garbage pick-up day here in Northern Silicon Valley. I'm waiting. I'm John C. Dvorak. I'm thinking, I saw a truck go by. You know, have you ever, I was in New York City during the big garbage strike. I was in New York City during one of the garbage strikes too. My goodness, you really don't want that to happen. It just piles up. And rats come out of every, and I'm not just talking about the people who live in New York, rats come out of every nook and cranny. Yeah, and the size of raccoons. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Well you can talk with them, you can have a nice little chat.

01:08 with these rats in New York, they're huge. Yeah, so today is the start of the new fiscal year for our country and I'm confused. Do we have a budget? Does government have to shut down or what's the deal? Why would we have to shut down? We just borrow money. People, you know what, you're down on this. The fact of the matter is people love to loan us money. You think it's going to stay that way forever? No. Exactly. Thank you very much. It's not ending today. No, it's not. It's not. But I'm just looking at the news and I'm thinking, wow, there is so much shit going on that just, you know, you could get depressed. Yeah. You know, I one of the things there's some good news kind of, you know, unfortunately for you, it's real news. Oh, my goodness.

02:07 And now, back to real news. So they call it the most boring Hollywood relationship in the history of gossip, the gossip rags. Yeah, because they did nothing exciting. Well, they're not, you know, they're just functionaries. They do their job and they're not really anything. They do their job and don't bump into the furniture and they get out. I like that. That was big news. Yeah, thanks.

02:46 That's really that's exciting. It was just we're on real news Let me just get a couple clips out of the way cuz I you know, we never talked about the Emmys which you probably didn't watch I know no no, no, I watched almost all of the Emmys and I'll let me just give you my assessment really quickly First of all Neil Patrick Harris doogie Howser MD and now he's also on how I met your mom I think yeah his name of the show. I liked him. I think he did a great job He did too. You know, he got his chops doing that by doing the Tony's the Chonies The Chonies and he did the he was on one of the talk shows and it was so funny because uh you know he's an out gay

02:07 And now, back to real news. So they call it the most boring Hollywood relationship in the history of gossip, the gossip rags. Yeah, because they did nothing exciting. Well, they're not, you know, they're just functionaries. They do their job and they're not really anything. They do their job and don't bump into the furniture and they get out. I like that. That was big news. Yeah, thanks.

02:46 That's really that's exciting. It was just we're on real news Let me just get a couple clips out of the way cuz I you know, we never talked about the Emmys which you probably didn't watch I know no no, no, I watched almost all of the Emmys and I'll let me just give you my assessment really quickly First of all Neil Patrick Harris doogie Howser MD and now he's also on how I met your mom I think yeah his name of the show. I liked him. I think he did a great job He did too. You know, he got his chops doing that by doing the Tony's the Chonies The Chonies and he did the he was on one of the talk shows and it was so funny because uh you know he's an out gay

03:23 And he says, you know, I did not know that seriously. I didn't. Oh yeah. And he says, he said on the thing, he says, well, you know, the Tony's, you know, he had some, I, now he's unfortunately just lost the joke, but he had some self deprecating gag about the Tony's being like pretty much, he says, you know, it's, you know, they have to have a guy like me and some, something like that. So they put him on charge of this and he, what I liked about him, I agree with you. In fact, somebody, if you want to play the Jeff probes clip where he wins the award, Jeff probes is the guy who's on survivor. Okay, fair enough. And the Emmy goes to... Let's see. Come on. Jeff Probst, Survivor.

04:03 Jeff Probst comes from Wichita, Kansas, also home to Buster Keaton, Vera Miles, Ed Asner, Don Johnson and Kirstie Alley. Growing up, he would turn on the TV after his parents had gone to sleep and watch Johnny Carson until his eyes got blue. Thank you very much. Neil Patrick Harris, this is how you host the Emmys. Yeah, I did hear this. Yeah, but then listen to the rest of this crap. I am thrilled and honored to accept this on behalf of the entire Survivor crew. We build the show together on the beaches and in jungles all over the world. This is the reality category. And I'm honored to be the face of Survivor. And tonight, I also want to share this with anybody who has a dream, because I am living my dream right here in this moment.

04:43 If you have a dream, dream big, pursue it with a passion. In the words of the great storyteller Joseph Campbell, the adventure you're ready for is the one you get. Life is short, go for it. Thank you. Joseph Campbell never said that. Really? Go for it! But John, don't ruin my moment because I was on the couch at home going, yes, yes I have a dream, yes, yes! Joseph Campbell, in the words of the immortal Joseph Campbell, go for it dude! Who's Joseph Campbell? Did he make Campbell soup? No, Joseph Campbell is this very famous kind of anthropological analyst who's a professor that a bunch of people your friend John Doerr is a big fan of Joseph Campbell and he did a whole series of of Analysis of myths of world myths and he's a very ponderous academic type and if anybody's gonna be saying go for it It's not him

05:35 uh... what was interesting is i always look at the overnight ratings for stuff like this because i know that these big award shows becoming less and less relevant to the audience to the industry out there very exciting now it was fun interestingly uh... where on site i don't have the exact headlines but some was like of twenty percent more viewership the last year and other headline i think in variety read second lowest ratings ever there you go i love that which is exactly it's exactly the point i'm always making constantly which is you can take anything and twist it twist it however you want right so variety of course loves to say hey it was the second lowest ever because they're kind of you know snarky

06:15 But the thing that was so interesting to me and which really hit home for television media, not for the stuff we're doing, John, is that as the night went on and these shows that are critically acclaimed like 30 Rock, which by the way I'm very proud of Beth McCarthy who was nominated for Best Director. I worked with her for like five years at MTV. She's an MTV alum. that these shows that are very critically acclaimed but really have no ratings and people aren't watching them, as these shows start to win awards, people started tuning out. It's like you could see the ratings go all the way down as all these esoteric 800,000 viewer type shows start to win awards. No one gives a crap. They really don't.

06:59 And it just shows how incestuous that whole ordeal is. And indeed the only good thing was Neil Patrick Harris. He did a good job, but even I couldn't stay with him. He wasn't getting in the way of the show. He was just like a really good MC in an old-fashioned, very old-fashioned style. Here's a Joseph Campbell quote from the chat room. Computers are like Old Testament gods. Lots of rules and no mercy. According to Sparky Jay in the chat that would that would be something more like a Joseph Campbell quote. Yeah as opposed to go for it Dude, you got a dream dude, and you two can make reality television, dude So I think probes is also obviously trying to get a job as a motivational speaker But meanwhile Mark Burnett's the guy should have been up there not this guy because he produced it, right?

07:48 Yeah, he's the guy who invented the whole genre. No, I'm sorry. I disagree. He did not invent the genre. Disagree categorically. Okay, well I think he invented the modern version of the genre, whatever you're going to say. No, I would say the... not that particular... Burnett reinvented that format, but the person who really broke through reality, quote, you know, real life situations on television was John LeMole with Big Brother. That's really where it started. And that think survivor predates big brother, which is another endemol program. Well, we'll do some research and we'll get back to you on that So it was just gonna get yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait, let me just mark that down We'll get back on that another one of those things. We'll get back to you on the way when when Goober and and what's in bark the guys who used to do a shootout they took it off the air so there's no idea what you're talking

06:59 And it just shows how incestuous that whole ordeal is. And indeed the only good thing was Neil Patrick Harris. He did a good job, but even I couldn't stay with him. He wasn't getting in the way of the show. He was just like a really good MC in an old-fashioned, very old-fashioned style. Here's a Joseph Campbell quote from the chat room. Computers are like Old Testament gods. Lots of rules and no mercy. According to Sparky Jay in the chat that would that would be something more like a Joseph Campbell quote. Yeah as opposed to go for it Dude, you got a dream dude, and you two can make reality television, dude So I think probes is also obviously trying to get a job as a motivational speaker But meanwhile Mark Burnett's the guy should have been up there not this guy because he produced it, right?

07:48 Yeah, he's the guy who invented the whole genre. No, I'm sorry. I disagree. He did not invent the genre. Disagree categorically. Okay, well I think he invented the modern version of the genre, whatever you're going to say. No, I would say the... not that particular... Burnett reinvented that format, but the person who really broke through reality, quote, you know, real life situations on television was John LeMole with Big Brother. That's really where it started. And that think survivor predates big brother, which is another endemol program. Well, we'll do some research and we'll get back to you on that So it was just gonna get yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait, let me just mark that down We'll get back on that another one of those things. We'll get back to you on the way when when Goober and and what's in bark the guys who used to do a shootout they took it off the air so there's no idea what you're talking

08:44 They used to bitch about the ratings of the Academy Awards the same way because the Academy Awards would never, you know, they never give like a blockbuster movie a win anymore. The idea was to give all these artsy-fartsy movies and nobody goes to see. awards and people would tune out of this out of the uh... they'd want to see the stars may just tune off the station i would wear the people who really really do a killing on the enemies is the television who are on the red carpet showing us what the audience really wants to see these stars saying something and they want to see what they're wearing that's that's that's all that the audience gives a shit about we don't care who what joseph campbell quote we're going to use you know we've really they really don't give a crap they just don't

09:29 I agree. I thought the show was well produced, the entertainment was good. I thought the production values were stunning. Yeah, I did not like those voiceovers with those funny little... Oh, that was John Hodgman. You have to be a Comedy Central fan to appreciate it. And he's the guy who does the Mac vs. PC. It would be like, and ladies and gentlemen, oh wait a minute, I should do a little bit of echo. Ladies and gentlemen, ah, fuck it, I'm not gonna do echo. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, winner of the best tech journalist category, John C. Dvorak, yay! John Dvorak, best known for saying the Apple Macintosh was not necessary, a mouse is unusable. That's exactly what, and you'd be like, fuck you dickheads.

10:13 Because that's what they were doing. It's like it was pretty you're right. Actually, I it reminds me of a I did an awards thing when PC computing was in business called the MVPs and I did it with Jim Seymour and I and we were kind of told to goof around like that and then we almost got fired after the damn thing because all the people who got awards were not very pleased with our with our you know, Kind of lewd commentary funniness. Yeah. So anyway, the baby should play the one other clip I got on the Emmys which is I thought was the best acceptance award because you got it it's it's uh... what's his name? Ken Howard. Yeah, Ken Howard who I've watched on TV forever. He used to be on a million shows. He used to play a coach on some show and he was in his mid to late sixties. He had a kidney transplant apparently ten years ago and he comes up with what I thought was the absolute best line anyone who's like this late in their career could ever come up with

11:07 And then he just had this glib, you know, kind of a series of non sequiturs that were, I just thought it was the best acceptance I've heard for a long time. And the Emmy goes to Ken Howard, Grey Garden. Ken Howard was raised in Manhattan, New York. He says he first worked as an NBC page for the Tonight Show. Yeah, I saw this one. Although it's funny, I have to say that I'm remembering the speeches based upon that stupid-ass voiceover. Because I remember saying, he was an NBC page. Oh yeah, I remember this one. This is the first Emmy win and nomination for Ken Howard. Thank you so much.

11:54 This is uh, very encouraging. Yeah, that was funny. I'll make my speech as brief as possible in the hope that it won't be interrupted by a congressman or a rapper. This was at the height of the Kanye West controversy. And he's an old dude right he's like in his late 60s 70s. Yeah, I Was thrilled to be part of this project for HBO. Thank you to everyone at HBO. You know we actors are so thrilled with the amazing success of cable television and the advent of new media and can barely wait to renegotiate Anyway, I thought it was good. I like that

12:44 so I just want to get those out of the way. Yeah, I'm happy you did. Three Showbiz news stories at the top of the show is pretty much all I can take. Let me get back to financial news for a moment. Remember, I don't know if it was Sunday or the week before we talked about the FDIC who insure our bank accounts, the money you have deposited in your bank, which used to be $100,000 per account and is now two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per account. And so they're running out of money. In fact, they say that as it currently stands, they will run out of money in early 2010.

13:24 And of course this is being kept very very quiet because if people knew about this there would be an obvious run on the banks. I don't think so. If we spun this properly, yeah, you could make people very afraid of this stuff but it's not going to happen because that's not in the agenda. And so one of the ways they were talking about solving this deficit, of course John you're correct, people are always happy to lend us money. In fact, the people who we just gave money, the banks, are now being considered as the source of money to shore up the FDIC. So again, this is money the banks already pay to

14:03 to the government that's supposed to go in this little jar, this little piggy bank, insurance company, that should this bank fail, then at least the deposits to a certain amount are covered. So they pay that money, which of course is already money they're paying from, based upon money that they got in the bailouts, and now they're being asked to take that bailout money and uh... and lend it back to the government at interest so we're getting screwed three times cuz our money basically and i was thinking you there's got to be more behind this than just pure desperation and i think it must have been john stack who uh... who sent this to me he sends a lot of one of our listener produces he said it this is the scam when uh...

14:48 When a bank lends, let's just make it easy, lends the FDIC $1 million, it's not just a million dollars that's on the books as being lent back to the United States. It's actually an asset. And the way the rules work with that $1 million asset, they can then lend out $8 million more. So they've actually created $8 million of fake money on their books because you're allowed to do a 1 to 10 ratio. So this actually is the start of a new legal Ponzi scheme, which is really Really if you look at everything that's happening

15:26 We are headed for and you're right John. It's not going to be today or tomorrow. Maybe not for a couple of years, but somewhere Somehow at some point in time this this pyramid the real Ponzi scheme which includes Social security and whatever health care where I don't care what it is public option single-payer doesn't matter if the government's involved Along with Medicare. It's all gonna come really tumbling down. It's just impossible that it doesn't Possibly. Oh, Jesus. Where's your book? Isn't it time for- Isn't it time? This is just a comeback when I'm not just- Boy, Adam, that's unbelievable!

16:07 Well, instead of that, possibly maybe you could give a little bit of insight. I don't have any insight. The way I see it, the whole system, the whole species system, and I've said this before, the whole thing is just based on trust and it's bogus. It's always been bogus. It's never not going to be bogus. It's bogus with gold. Thank you. That's what I wanted to hear. And the funny thing is that it really all boils down to just a mechanism for barter. The only reason that we have gold standard or species standard, species I'm referring to paper money that doesn't have any real backing, it used to, silver certificates, gold certificates.

16:46 But now it's just nothing, it's just a piece of paper that happens to be printed in such a way that makes it hard to counterfeit. It's just a mechanism for barter. So I can give you, for example, I do some work for MeVeo obviously, and you give me the species... I'm all fine with that, except there's one little organization called the Federal Reserve who have been given this God-given right to make up all of the species. They're making up, they're printing the paper, whether it's virtual or not, and that pisses me off, because that's not, that's unfair. Let me have a printing press. Well, they used to love, you know, it used to be, but here's the problem with that.

17:22 In the 17 and 1800s everybody could have their own printing press. Every bank made their own money. Every state made their own money. I got a bunch of stuff on the walls. You know, I like to collect old bills because they're very pretty by the way. But you get the bank, they are. They're good rolling paper. No, they're really pretty. They're pretty. Anyway, the Bank of Georgia, the Bank of South Carolina and all these different bands, they would actually be hand signed, you know, to show what it means. Sure. Well, that the federal, every dollar bill or every denomination is signed by the treasurer and by the Federal Reserve. We're talking about really signed. I mean, like with real ink. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And which was kind of makes him kind of interesting as collectibles. But anyway, the whole thing, the only reason to do data had to be centralized because it was out of control. Nobody could prove that somebody wasn't overdoing it and they weren't, you know, there's just too much fraud involved. So you centralize everything with a central bank. So you have the fraud in one place.

18:16 Well, you can have the fraud in one place and of course the government doesn't care. All they want to do is make sure that somebody keeps track of where this money's moving to and from so they can tax. You know the fact that instead of me actually going over there and trading you you know a Motor from my car for you know a few bushels. Oh, yeah, but wait a minute That's not the job of the Federal Reserve is to keep inflation and deflation in check isn't that the only? Recent job that I know of because it's job never existed. I'll just say I'll just say one thing that with I think Well, within your lifetime, certainly, John, interest rates... Yeah, I know. I know it's a lot to think of. But within your lifetime, interest rates have been as high as 20%, as low as like 0% like it is today. So they failed at that. They've essentially failed at their job. And they're keeping secret who they're printing up money and giving it to.

19:19 but we're actually paying for it. On Wednesday, yesterday, the US Federal Reserve said it will appeal a court ruling that ordered it to identify borrowers using its emergency lending programs. This is the two trillion dollars that Bloomberg sued the Federal Reserve over under the Freedom of Information Act. Right, they went to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court said cough up the documents and the Federal Reserve said... No! They said screw you! Hey Sotomayor, you like that chair, biatch? We put you there, you don't want to mess with us? No way. I know they got an issue. This is a real problem for them to do this. The financial community is very upset about this because it just makes it again like well maybe nobody has to go so the Supreme Court told me to forget it I'm not doing it. Yeah. How about we try that? Yeah right. How about we try to say no hello hello we're not doing it we're not listening to you. Yeah I mean that's it's it's an it's an out and out outrage and you know now you've

20:23 God, I mean this is look if Bloomberg's working on it. You know you know you know that it's a scam Well, it could be either a scam a or it's nothing we the two of us can do anything about a set bitch Oh, yeah, well, but if I'm happy they're doing it because we'd have no show No, there's plenty of other stuff Well, yeah, there is plenty of other stuff. And I really love this one, which of course will be underreported and no one will really understand it. But you know about the VIP program? This was the Countrywide Financial Corporation, who of course received huge bailouts. They had this VIP mortgage.

21:07 plan which is not all that uncommon by the way there's lots of banks who give celebrities and of course you think there might be some conflict of interest if you're giving congressmen and senators low-rate mortgages for their homes or for their second homes or for their seventh home and you know they're giving him bailout money at the same time and this included geez who did they give money to John I don't know I gave up on that story Well, anyway, so Biden, I'm sure. I think Biden was one and let me just look at the story. Well, anyway, you know when you call the bank, you always hear your call may be recorded for training and customer support purposes. And so, you know, there was

21:57 The House Oversight Committee said hey, you know I'd really like to find out about these About these VIP loans just to make sure that you know these because of course These these representatives said oh, I didn't know they had a VIP program I thought I was just getting my regular good deal. You know I had no idea was a better deal here Chris Dodd who was actually on the Finance Committee Kent Conrad of North Dakota and they of course say they never asked for favorable loans. So they subpoenaed these recordings. Oh, well you know what? I'm sorry, we deleted them because of space issues.

22:39 you can get away with a lot of excuses space is usually because of the terabyte drive over here at costco for seventy five blocks they had been that'll hold a lot of recordings and then you know that it's like you know at eight eight bit resolution you know it's like if you know it's really low-grade recording no i'm sorry it was let me see if i have the exact quote It was really funny the way it was worded. But literally, you know, well, we had to delete them, you know, because we were running out of space on the hard drive. That's our policy. Do they let people actually say these things? You know, that would be, to me, it would be, send that person to jail.

23:20 For lying to whoever you federal officers. That's a lie. It's an out-and-out lie. There's no such thing as space Here we go a Bank of America spokesman said in a written statement that the Bank of America my favorite bank Yes, who I think they received a little bit of help don't you think yeah, wasn't there some help going on there? The VIP recordings quote were retained only for a limited time or until available recording space was utilized Oh my god. Yeah, we put everything on an 8 megabyte SSD disk and it ran out. It's like a USB thumb drive that one of these guys is using over there at the Bank of America. They can do a million transactions a second on the NASDAQ, yet they can't save a VIP recording for more than a couple months. Well then you know something was up. Well of course! That's just an admission of guilt.

24:16 Well, yeah, but nothing will happen. Well, of course not. Why would there be anything happening? Nah. Nothing happens, period. Well, I've been watching Time for a little bit of media assassination. So while all of this stuff actually goes on in the background, Fox News is keeping the old people busy. And by the way, it really is. I don't know what the demographics are of Fox News, but I bet you any person over 60, present company excluded, watches Fox News exclusively in the evenings. And I've spoken to a number of people. You know Coop at the office? She was like,

25:01 I've been kind of indoctrinating her and she's like, wow, you sound like my mom a little bit. So well, first of all, A, I hope not. B, said let me guess, she's probably watching Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck. She's like yeah exactly, that's what I hear her talk about all the time. Like okay, now I've got it figured out. So we get the old people occupied with Fox, we get the younger people occupied with CNN and just give them candy man. You know, Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox, his mantra and what he's been very successful at is give the people what they want. they're just completely hypnotized and and you know they can't they're too old to get motivated to do anything you know they're not gonna go march on Washington like I've got a few of them to go under that that thing

25:47 the 9-12 event. True, true, but that is certainly not the viewership of Fox. I mean the viewership of Fox is huge. You know he got a lot of people, a hundred thousand or maybe in total a million around the country, but you know on a nightly basis what has he got three four million people watching him? Yeah at least. So you know And then CNN, they just keep the younger crowd busy and it's all with this non-sequitur bullshit. So Fox's new thing is, the president, he has time to go to Copenhagen to try and shill for the Olympics to get him into Chicago, which of course is a complete bullshit thing for him to be doing. Totally.

26:27 it is is just a no bomb i we need some help here in chicago we got you know this job get over there all day yeah and uh... well it's it's not even it's not even that i mean the guy is not running anything when will someone understand that he's not running the show and so of course that you know what they're saying is he doesn't have time to uh... respond to the letter from the uh... commander in afghanistan who needs more troops Which is true, he has not responded, but who thinks the guy is running anything? I think people are switching on to this. The guy is not in charge of anything. He's just not. I know he's on TV, radio, he's doing talk shows on the weekends. He's a brand. He's just a brand. I've never seen a president who's constantly never, he's never home.

27:17 and michelle flew out the day before him on her own their own air force two or two twenty point i don't know what i would mean is all up in arms about these two flights in the book complaining about the good i think it's a good new complaint but it is beside the point yet and then on the left i'll just call it right left just stay with whatever vernacular they're using that cnn what are they talking about roman polanski It's like, I don't give a crap. I just don't care. Yeah, you're right. That's the split. That's the currentness is Polanski and the flight. And what was a couple of weeks ago, we had the other two, which was the acorn and.

27:56 What was the entertainment news? Kanye West. Kanye West. I think I figured out Polanski's arrest though. Everyone's like, now it's in this deep discussion of the judge overstepped his boundaries. It's like a whole discussion that is completely irrelevant to life as we know it. Yeah, well let me mention one more thing before you give us the explanation. He's had a chalet in Gestat. for years. Oh yeah, but this was the first time they knew he was coming because he was receiving an award. What do they have to know anything for? Why don't they just go over there and knock on his door and find out when he's going to be back? Now I'll tell you why they nailed the guy, and this is the one thing you will not see on CNN, the one thing you will not hear about on Fox, is about his new movie. His new movie, which has not yet been sold in the United States, is titled The Ghost.

28:48 stars Pierce Brosnan. Alright, alright, you got me on that one. You're right. It's exactly a publicity stunt. The novel caused a stir in Britain, so this is a movie of a book, for the lead character's resemblance to former Prime Minister Tony Blair. So I'm gonna have to go read this book now to review it on the show, but clearly they don't want this movie out or whatever and so it's like let's just go nail this guy. No, I think it might be the opposite. Maybe the whole thing is to get him... Or it's a whole publicity stunt to make it work out. To get the distribution out because now everyone's going to be interested in the movie once again when the word gets out. Oh Polanski's movie. Especially if they use the logic that, oh they arrested him to keep the movie off the street. My god this must be unbelievable this movie. Yeah, you're right. Could be. Because of course we know that in the highest levels of justice departments around the world most of these people are pedophiles. I'll say it.

29:41 I'll say it. They're fucking pedophiles. I know for a fact in Gitmo Nation East, come on and get me, bitches. I'm not afraid to say it. It's rampant. It's rampant. It's rampant throughout upper layers of government. And by the way, why not go get a couple of priests while you're at it? Why not arrest them and throw them in jail? Why not extradite a couple of those Roman dudes? So we should be taking, we should take, put a pool together. Do we think that Palencio will actually be extradited or will the whole thing fall apart after the movie gets into distribution? Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. Well, let's, we will monitor this. Could you write that down somewhere, John? Where you can find it? Let me see. Yes, here's a stack of papers. I'll write it on the back of this envelope.

30:36 Something that's, you may have blogged this, it wouldn't surprise me because it's been circling around the conspiracy theory circleists for a while now. This town in Montana, Hardin Montana oh yeah this is hilarious we did blog this is great has never had a police force but now that all of a sudden they do and it's called the APF known as the American Police Force and these guys have a website oh I gotta find it's like some rental outfit

31:14 it's pretty good and of course the website has been completely hacked. Oh wait a minute, they've unhacked it. It's AmericanPoliceGroup.com. The American Police Force organization, American Police Force is dedicated to maintaining our well-deserved professional reputation as a results-oriented, full-service, private, investigative and security agency by way of commitment, diligence, unique resources, creativity and tenacity on behalf of our clients. And so and but it looks like their logo if you go to the website. What's the name of that movie that animated movie? Team America? I never saw it.

31:52 Oh, John, you have to see this movie! You've never seen Team America? No. Oh my God! You know the song, America, fuck yeah, here to take on the motherfucking world, yeah. You've never seen this? No. Oh my God, John, this is a classic. You of all people need to see this movie. Team America. You must rent it or BitTorrent it tonight. You have to see this. You will be blown away by... Maybe I have that song here. Let me just see. It is so funny. And it's kind of like the Thunderbirds. Yeah. And it's kind of done that way. Hold on, let me just see. Team... God, why should I want to see it? Oh, dude. Oh, dude, you want to see this so bad. Hold on, let me just see if I have that song. I bet you I have it somewhere. Maybe not. Maybe it's in my other iTunes.

32:51 Sorry, anyway, um you should google team America. All right. Well, I'll follow up that envelope. Hold on a second. Yeah, so anyway These guys main office located in DC and they service all 50 states and most countries This is a private police force that has been hired apparently We don't even know they exist except for a couple of guys with some business cards. They printed on their laser printer Well, they got a cool-ass logo Yeah, well you know they probably have some graphics, one of the guys wives is a graphics designer maybe, who knows? I mean I think these guys are like black water wannabes. Well, yeah, duh.

33:31 Recent stories of a private security force descending upon Montana town in black Mercedes SUVs. At least the American cops drive American cars. With police department insignias emblazoned on the side have caused an internet uproar. The reason Hardin, Montana where the American police force entered driving the phony patrol cars doesn't have a police department. Anyway, what links about all this in the show notes of no agenda? It's actually very it's a funny story You should people should read about I don't know where it's going Will you promise me that you watch team America you will poop your side will I will see that would definitely watch team America Let's do some clips. All right. Well, we got a couple interesting clips here There's one that there's a I've been watched one too many Rachel mad owls and I'll tell you my god She is a liar amongst other L words

34:19 which actually is to her benefit. I mean the whole lesbian thing is a turn-on. That's why I watch her. I like, you know, I'm like, oh yeah. She's getting really snotty too. She's getting, she's picking up that old habit of sneering too much. Oh yeah, I don't like that. So I ran into, she had Alan Grayson who's the guy you should probably follow. He's a Florida Democrat who's in with Ron Paul. Yeah, I've seen him interview, he interviewed the Federal Reserve's attorney. Hilarious. During one of these things yeah, yeah, he's a blowhard. He's one of these showboaters. I mean he's not gonna He's kind of funny, but this is what bothers me He's amongst this group play the Alan Grayson clip, and I'm gonna before he said this is TV He apparently used the word Holocaust and they're all upset It's gonna be an economic Holocaust or something. He used the word Holocaust

35:08 And the word Holocaust is I guess a no-no in the politically correct, so they're kind of apologizing about it. It's interesting you say that because I actually was researching the, is it entomology? No, that's about bugs. Etymology. Oh, no wonder I was confused. Etymology. I was researching the etymology of the word Holocaust the other day, which has meant a lot of different things throughout history until recent times. So let's listen to the clip of Alan Grayson. We're here for... I have to ask you a third time and I'm sorry because I didn't mean to do this, but do you regret using the word Holocaust or do you think it was appropriate? Rachel, it may not have been the best choice of words, but I will say this. My words don't matter. That's not what's important here. What's important is that we do what we need to do, that we solve these problems. And that's what I came here to do.

35:56 Now, here's where he, this is where he starts to get to me. Listen to the rest of this spiel about how somehow, somehow, in some bizarro world that a house that is dominated by Democrats and a Senate that is filibuster proof and a president who is Democrat Play this and how can you blame the Republicans for everything? It's not possible, but that's what they're doing. That's what's so frustrating to me. I've been here for only nine months now and I see the Republicans have nothing. They simply stick their heels in, they dig their heels in, they won't let anything get done time and time again. It's not just the health bill, it's everything. They simply block everything. How can they block everything? They have no power!

36:43 Yeah, no, I've noticed this trend as well. It's like they always say they want to negotiate. They don't. They don't. It's all take and no give. Well, why don't you guys get your shit together and you can pass anything you want? The fact is they can. They can pass anything they want. They got all Democrats. They own the House. They own the Senate. They own the presidency. And they're complaining that the Republicans are stopping things. The Republicans can't stop anything. There is not enough Republicans to do much. But look, Look and watch, they can watch things change. These Democrats complaining about Republicans at this point after the United States public gave the Democrats the House, the Senate, and the presidency are still complaining about Republicans. What's wrong with these people?

37:29 Exactly. When you talk like that, I actually get hard. It's not what America sent Congress to do. What do you think... That's funny. The best way is for Democrats in Congress to fight Republicans. You've obviously taken a very pugna... All you have to do is show up and agree. to fight, to show up and press vote for whatever you want and then we're good. that the Democratic Party should be approaching Republicans differently, just as a matter of strategy? People want a Democrat with guts. They want to see a Democratic Party with guts. They want to see us use the power that they gave to us last November in the election. They want to see us solve their problems. And not just Democrats. It's not just Democrats who feel that way. People want to see Congress act.

38:22 not drag their feet, not be stopped by the Republicans, not be stonkered by these nattering nabobs of negativism. They want to see us solve their problems, or at least work on them. So, I'm... Wait a minute, let's stop there. Nattering nabobs of negativism was a phrase that was coined by The corrupt vice president Spiro Agnew. I don't know if he's using it as a joke reference or is that? Obviously was lost on me. I want to hear it again because I didn't negative nabobs of what of negativism I'd like this to be stopped by the Republicans not be Stunkered by these nattering nabobs of negativism. They want to solve their problems or a lot on them nattering nabobs of negatism I'm gonna use that in a meeting at some

39:06 You guys are a bunch of nagging. Nattering nabobs of negatism. Negativism. Oh God, I'm going to fuck it up when I say it. Nattering nabobs of negativism. You're having trouble. It's like she sells seashells by the seashore. Nattering nabobs of negativism. What is it? What's the last word? Negativism. Can I just say negativity? yeah you could probably get away with that. Yeah, nattering nabobs of negativity, that's better. Yeah, you can say that. Alright, I'm going to try that and see if anyone picks up on it. So this Holocaust thing is interesting because I was watching Larry King earlier in the week, I think even before Sunday's show, and he had Amadinejad on, man I'm out of it today, and Larry launches in this whole thing, he wants Amadinejad to basically say

40:04 that he denies there was a holocaust and with holocaust which is a proper word meaning something else than six million jews being killed during the second world war and Ahmadinejad won't admit it he keeps saying let me you know as a scholar which is always funny he pulls out the I'm a scholar so we you know I I'm not a historian I'm a scholar he says 15 million people were killed So his whole thing is, who killed all the Jews? Who killed all these people? And then of course Larry King has to say Germans and then Ahmadinejad brings it right around to say, right so why are the Palestinians now involved in this conversation? Why has the Holocaust been politicized? So that's all a valid point but he actually won't admit it, he won't say it.

40:52 And he said something about the word Holocaust and I thought it was very interesting that this word has been used in many different contexts but it really has been hijacked to mean one thing only. And now it's like a word that you can't use anymore unless it's in the context of six million Jews being exterminated. It's just not valid. And from that, and I'll take it right back to my own personal circles, I was in a meeting with a couple of a couple of the the MeVEO senior execs and one of them actually, we were talking about this, one of them actually said well I really hope we just wipe out Iran.

41:33 and this particular person is Jewish. I'm like, wow, you know, do you really mean that? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we just get rid of them and everything will be fine. But that's exactly what Israel is claiming Iran says about Israel. I mean, don't you see kind of like the sadness in what you're talking about? You got kids. Your kids are on Facebook with Iranians. Your kids are on Facebook with kids from Iraq. And, oh yeah, absolutely. And my kid was on Facebook and then Twittering and while the bombs were going off in Iran and her friend was watching out the window I said, there were no bombs going off, you know, it wasn't all that bad.

42:12 And I realized that even really smart people, really smart people who I hold in high regard and who make more money than I do at this company, have been so indoctrinated by fake bullshit news that there's just no hope for them. There is just no hope. And every day I get emails from people who listen to this show who say, you know, my fill in the blank, my boyfriend, girlfriend, wife, you know, etc. My friends, they all think I'm a crazy ass crackpot when I say, hey, maybe you should think about what's actually going on and not be worrying about Kanye West and maybe you shouldn't take the flu shot because there might be something going on. And they all say categorically, I cannot convince them. They call me crazy.

42:56 And you know, please help me. How do I bring people over to the other side? And I have to tell you, forget about it. It's not worth the effort. Some of us will make it and some of us won't. I'm really sorry. In fact, one guy, my advice to him was, maybe it's time for a new girlfriend. He didn't like that. He didn't think that was a satisfactory answer by the way. Yeah, but it's probably a good answer. Yeah, you know, it's like and this is so I'm sorry. The only thing you can do is bring it with humor. If you're really serious and shit that just doesn't work. You just got to laugh and joke and then maybe people will get it. But what has hit home is the same person actually who has a daughter

43:36 and who has had the first HPV, Gardasil's cervical cancer shot and I said hey you know you might want to consider that that's maybe not such a good idea and boom the same day and if you haven't seen this then well my god then everybody's seen now that there was a girl in the United Kingdom who died very shortly after she received her HPV Yeah, they're doing everything they can to cover it up. Oh yeah, now the BBC of course, state-run, state-controlled media is saying that she had a tumor. Yeah, she had a tumor. It wasn't the shot that killed her, it was the tumor. Interesting. So yeah, they're doing everything they can to cover it up. And this, in fact, I think vaccinations have been put on hold in the UK for Gardasil. Yeah.

44:30 So far, yeah. It'll be back up. They'll let it blow over because the public has a short memory and bingo, it'll be back in play because there's too much money to be lost. You can't let these shots go out of date. It's like, I think it's like 300 bucks a shot and there's three shots involved and it's interesting, many countries, certainly in Gitmo Nation East, are giving the third shot and the third vaccine violence saying take this home and you should self-administer it. Which I don't get at all, which other than a great way to circumvent some lawsuits. I'll put the link in the show notes, NoahJennerShow.com. Here's your third one here, take it home about a month from now, shove it up your ass. But even this woman's daughter who is I think 15, maybe 13,

45:18 She said it was really interesting because my husband took her but her daughter was the one that came home and said you know I feel okay after this first shot, but man I had to sign a lot of paperwork It was like it was like this huge like pages and pages of basically whatever happens You cannot sue us the doctor the company You know the the bus company that drove you here, and you cannot sue anybody. I'm like doesn't that give you some kind of clue Now of course for the swine flu that has been embedded into law, that, you know, because these companies have stepped up and have rushed through creating this fantastic swine flu vaccine for the H1N1 new influenza A virus, that of course they have to be held indelible from any type of legal action should you die from their horrible shit. Which actually lasts about 30 minutes.

46:14 Where would you like to start? Well, a couple of things to start with. I don't have a clip for this, but every week we have come up with another new scam that the news media dreams up or something happens or they pick up on a story and the next thing you know, as another excuse to get people to take the swine flu up in Canada. The doctors up there, or a doctor or some research company has come up with this crazy notion that if you get the regular flu shot before the swine flu shot... You will probably get the swine flu for sure. Now I would like some virologist... How does that work? Yes, how does that work? How does giving me a vaccine make it easier for me to get another? Let me take a guess, John, because perhaps they've actually put the H1N1 in the seasonal flu shot. I'm just guessing here, you know. That's always possible.

47:12 So what they want, that's possible. Yeah, of course it's possible. Why else could you do it? A lot of health care workers aren't getting either shot this year. Oh except, well yeah, but there's a big problem. Yeah, they're starting to pass laws saying you have to. You have to. In Ohio, if the health workers don't take the shot, they don't get a pay raise. In New York, they'll get fired. Right, that's showing up in California too, just now. If you don't take the shot, you get fired. Hey, now that's a way to help out with jobs. Way to go Obama! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yeah! But these are nurses that are going to be needed if there is an epidemic. So what's the logic here?

47:58 There was some woman in the New York Times, a nurse, saying, you know, I've never been sick in five years. Why should I be getting these shots? She won't take either shot. She never has. She won't do it. And she'll get put on inactive duty or she'll get fired or she'll... It's nuts. The whole thing is crazy. So anyway, so they're interviewing these people up in the Canadian stations and they're saying, the guy says, how come, you know, some reporter, some brash reporter asks, how come nobody else has come up with this information that the, that you can't take the one shot before the other? And by the way, how would you figure that out? Because the shots haven't been distributed yet. And the guy says, well, you know, sometimes you don't, you can't, if you're not looking, you won't see it.

48:35 Is that his exact quote? Say that one more time. Pretty much. If you don't look, you won't see it. Okay. So the whole thing is just ridiculous. So now they want you to, and now what's happening in Canada, which is ludicrous because the flu season actually begins in November. They're going to make people take, they're going to have the swine flu shots available probably in December or maybe in November. And then the regular flu shots won't be available until January to well into the flu season. But meanwhile, people who get the regular seasonal flu and of course, as the swine flu, this is becoming, this is a fiasco.

49:20 In Gitmo Nation, East of the Netherlands, a number of people sent me this link. They have kind of like a virologist czar who has been pushed forward by the government to tell everyone, oh this is why. And of course they call it the Mexican flu over there. I'm still not quite sure why they didn't go with swine flu. It's a branding issue, we're working on it. It's typical. And so he's been on television, you know, he's a spokesman, right? And they discover that he owns like 9% in the leading distributor of vaccines in the Netherlands. It's like, duh, really? You think? It's just, it's a huge money-making scam at best. At worst, goodbye audience. At least those of you who are going to take the shot.

50:08 But it really is sad just to hear how people do not, they're not even, this information about what we're talking about, particularly about the adjuvants, the hamburger helper part, which is really the dangerous part of the, oh you know what? I found this and I have to find the whole clip, I only have a piece of it. Because in 1976, this is a fractal of course of what happened a number of years ago, we had a swine flu scare in the United States. 48 million Americans were vaccinated and thousands of people got sick, had neurological disorders and many people started to die and there were these huge lawsuits. And then this is a news report from I guess late 70s.

50:52 About the swine flu. I just have a little bit of it I'm looking for the for the full-blown piece because it actually has examples and you see these people walking all fucked up and shit because they got neurological disease This is a great piece of audio history and without the lovely internet and YouTube we wouldn't have this. Remember the swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the US government told us all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer. that could spread across the nation. And Washington decided that every man, woman and child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nationwide outbreak, a pandemic. 46 million of us obediently took the shot. And now 4,000 Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars. Because of what happened when they took that shot, by far the greatest number of the claims, two-thirds of them, are for neurological damage or even death. Dr. David Sensor, then head of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, is not- By the way, love the music.

51:52 The music now in private industry he devised this wine blue program, and he pushed it did anyone ever come to you and say You know something fellas. There's the possibility of neurological damage If you get into a mass immunization program no no one ever did no Do you know Michael Hapwick? Yes? Dr. Michael Hatwick directed the surveillance team for the swine flu program at the CDC. His job was to find out what possible complications could arise from taking the shot and to report his findings to those in charge. Did you know ahead of time, Dr. Hatwick, that there had been case reports of neurological disorders, neurological illness, apparently associated with the injection of influenza vaccine? Absolutely.

52:42 You did? Yes. How'd you know that? By review of the literature. What would you say if I told you that your superiors say that you never told them about the possibility of neurological complications? That's nonsense. I can't believe that they would say that they did not know that there were neurological illnesses associated with influenza vaccination. That simply is not true. We did know that. Right, so that's all CDC personnel and when you... it's a fractal. It is exactly the... hold on, I should do that. It is exactly the same... well how... I mean...

53:19 isn't the slogan if we don't learn from history we're bound to repeat it? no I thought it was if we don't learn from history we're bound to have it repeated to us. nabobbing negative what was it? you're never gonna get it out. no I'm gonna have to write it down on a cheat sheet. nattering nabobbing ne... nattering nabobs of negativity. nattering nabobs of negativity. although that's what you're gonna say it's actually negativism is the real word. yeah but nattering nabobbers. oh never mind. teeny boppers of So anyway, it's really interesting when you see this piece and it goes on forever because back in the day they had a lot less commercials. But it's just an outstanding piece. I'll put this edited piece. I thought we ran this before. I don't think we've run this particular piece. I don't recall it at least. Okay. But we have talked about the 1976 swine flu and it is exactly the same. And by the way, how come the, you know,

54:16 If they already went through this, don't they already have... you never hear anyone talking about here's what we learned from the 1976 swine flu. You never hear about that. ever but they've improved it yeah they have that not that not the adjuvanted vaccine what they've improved is the marketing yeah and they've got the CDC in their pocket they've got the WHO the World Health Organization they got that then to change the laws on what actually constitutes a pandemic they've got everyone to say hey babe oh so nice turn down your mickey they got The World Health Organization said that to change what a pandemic actually is. It doesn't have to be widespread. Right, where they could actually declare martial law. Yeah. And then all these local areas, various areas of the world have, like in England now, there's one of the interesting stories that floated by from one of our producers is that

55:12 you can be considered insane and locked up if you refuse the flu shot. By only one doctor by the way. By one doctor, the one doctor who's making whatever they're paying him for a shot. And you say I don't want this shot. Well I'm going to lose ten dollars. You probably give the doctor, find out what the amount of money is that the doctor's getting for the shot. No it was. And give him the money. Yeah exactly. Give him double. Give him double the money. He'll be probably good with it. You know what we do here on this show? We don't pull any punches. No sir. Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth simple formula now hit you hit my other thing hitting another guy in the mouth clip you can use this follow-up Doesn't quite have the same impact no no the other ones better yeah Let's hit that other guy in the mouth

56:12 So, okay, let's go on to another clip. Wait, do we have no more swine flu news? Well, no, I do have people out there all send us a Shepard Smith clip. Shepard Smith, who I watched this clip where he berated some health care worker for not taking the swine flu shot and then saying, well, you know more than the CDC. You know more than the CDC. How can you know more than the CDC? And he's a total dick. I have that clip, I'm gonna run it on Sunday. Yay! Total dick! I love it! Let me just stick with health care for one second. Sure. Before you go on to the next clip. Well I got another health care, I got a health care clip. Since you're on the topic. Well let me finish up the Swine Flu Minute. That thing sticks in your head. You will be singing that all day. You can't help, it's catchy. It's catchy. Jeff Smith, genius at work.

57:05 You want to do a... I mean, I got a tax thing. A healthcare related tax thing. Go ahead. I got two healthcare clips. The first one is, thank you for calling Mr. Benton. And here's what the setup is. So I'm watching CSI New York and the story is the following. a guy ended up with lung cancer and I guess he lost his coverage so this is like totally you know. Wait a minute, this is NCSI New York? CSI New York. CSI New York. So wait a minute we've received another script from the White House boys. Oh yay! No writing necessary. And there's an interesting aspect to it. This guy starts using high-tech to kill off the doctors that cut him off

57:54 and the first display this company i'll show you the ludicrous aspect of a play thank you for calling mister benton the guy has been the guy has been has been killing people and he's got some woman locked in an elevator she's claustrophobic and she's dying in there and she's not getting any sympathy from him and so he's caught off the elevator through the internet and he's calling her yes that's okay so can i can i interrupt this clip or my other to play all the way through You can interrupt it, but you have to back it up a little bit. Okay, cuz I might hear like some outrageous shit. Let's go Okay right there he's talking in the elevator I'm sorry. Yes. He's in the elevator in the micro in the speaker in the elevator through the internet He's got the new emphaseme or something Have you ever have you ever pressed the button in the elevator and gotten a response ever? No, no You could have found a way

58:46 to help me but you didn't what's what's what is that her wheezing yes she's no she's she's had some some weird claustrophobia and she will die if she's locked in the elevator oh this is a condition I'm unaware of okay The corporation isn't in the charity business They made that quite clear to me every time I spoke to someone they said the same thing I'm sorry, mr. Benton. I wish I could help you mr. Benton I wish we didn't have to take your bed mr. Beton insurance had him run out

59:42 the the readers really bad do you think what he's been used for trying to breed this is a year we're sorry we had to take your bed mr. Bennett your insurance hadn't run out we could do something for you this is this is better than that of what Obama does I want public health care now mr. better we wish you the best mr. Thank you for calling. I love it. I love it. Now the follow-up is the girl's rescued because he's already killed two other people. Now he's killed one person through by attacking into the GPS system and a whole bunch of things so this guy's car drove into the wrong part of town and then died because he managed to do all kinds of... This is a guy who when they've researched him supposedly invented GPS and...

1:00:42 Oh, right. He's a huge super hacker. Meanwhile, he loses insurance and he can't hack into the system. This is the irony. This is the world's greatest hacker and you can't hack, hack up some free insurance? He came to the insurance system and just like up his insurance real easily? I mean this is stupid. Oh my goodness. So anyway, play the last clip is on, is the second, is that one lone clip. This is after he, they find out where he was. Was it right here? Congressman, is that the one? Yeah. And so he has the unsympathetic cop and meanwhile there's still the final pieces of propaganda now fall into place.

1:01:18 It would be if you hadn't spoiled my plans. What would putting Lisa Kim in the Marg accomplish? She needed to feel what it's like to be helpless and forgotten. Wow, that's a message right there to everybody, huh? She suffers from severe claustrophobia. She could have died in that elevator. That's what happens when one doesn't get the help they need. That's like right out of the playbook, that one. You remember when your father needed help? Don't you? And he got it. Well, I wasn't given that option. You won't get sympathy from me. You have a problem with the healthcare system, you found three scapegoats. Don't you see? Detective, that's the lesson here. I needed to put Lisa Kim, Aaron Dexter and Dr. Evans in my shoes.

1:02:15 to make them understand. You have a message. Write your congressman. Wait a minute. This was CSI... this is CSI Vegas, isn't it? No, this is CSI New York. So when does CSI New York... when is it in production? Uh... Let's uh... I think it goes in production over the summer. Interesting. So you're telling me that they... well, let's see. uh... the adjusted uh... i'm trying to see if i can find out when this was actually made because this may have been part of the overall agenda way before he the airwaves uh... method that a fight on their hands that the killer so these propagandistic shows but i think you got there they should notice that this kind of thing is being thrust upon them as dramas when in fact their messages okay uh... here it is april thirtieth two thousand eight

1:03:15 CSI currently filming it's is this the eighth season John of CSI. I don't know well, it would be interesting to know because They were they were in production on their eighth season More than a year ago. I don't think there I don't think the lead time on CSI is more than six months We're rolling right into the next season. We will start our ninth season May 12th and Yeah, I think you're right. It may be pretty tight. Did we see the upcoming CSI two-and-a-half men crossover episode? I didn't watch it. That's frightening. How can you cross over CSI and two-and-a-half men? That's pretty crazy. That's wrong. I haven't heard about that. So who knows? Yeah, so clearly and of course who produces this show? Leviacom

1:04:14 yeah but i mean it is missing yes isn't this and knowing who's the actual executive producer no this is not a dick wolf show who produces it this is what's his name the other superstar sorghum no no no no if i said his name you know it look it up i'm looking at a bright jerry bruckheimer abraham there you go well yeah of course brockheimer then he said he's always in with uh... with the white house is me uh... i don't see any reason he's not yeah uh... so that following on this health care You know the one thing the president has promised us is there would be no tax for this health care. Unfortunately the IRS kind of disagrees with him because now the plan, the so-called Baucus bill, Chairman Max Baucus of the Senate Finance Committee,

1:05:03 I initially came out and said, hey look, if you don't want to take the health care, that's fine. You're going to pay $3,800 penalty. And I don't know if that's per person or per family. It's probably per person. But that's kind of irrelevant. It was lowered to $1,900. But now the IRS says, yeah, you know what? And if you fail to pay, we will be in charge of punishing you. Yeah, so it's a tax. It's a tax. The IRS handles tax, so it is 100% a tax. If you fail to pay, it'll be a $25,000 fine or up to a year in jail or both. Excuse me. It makes me nauseous to read this shit. So it's a tax. That is the, if the IRS levies it, if the IRS is in charge, it's a tax. That's just, that's the only way you can look at it.

1:05:57 No, it is a tax. Yeah, but then didn't the president lied wasn't Joe whatever his name is right when he said you lie you lie Joe Wilson Joe Wilson wasn't he right you lie you lie He lies on the lying tip and I promised you a last show. I just briefly touch on this Member I was I said I would come back on the Oklahoma City bombing. Yeah by coincidence Wait a minute, I think I actually have a jingle for that. Yeah, by coincidence, three days ago, the long secret security tapes showing the chaos immediately after the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building were released under Freedom of Information Act, blah, blah, blah. And this is according to AP, the tapes appeared to be edited.

1:06:58 coincidence i think not yeah uh... the tapes are blank in the minutes before the blast and appear to have been edited the real story is what's missing said jesse trent trent adieu salt lake city attorney who obtained the recordings to the freedom of information act as part of an official unofficial inquiring he's been conducting since nineteen ninety five uh... he gave copies to the oklahoma newspaper the okay so the tapes turned over by the fbi came from security cameras Here it is, various companies had mounted outside office buildings near the Murrah Federal Building. There are blank points before 9.02am when a truck bomb carrying the 4,000 pound fertilizer and fuel oil bomb detonated in front of the building.

1:07:45 all four cameras all four go blank at the same time and of course official said well they had run out of tape hey where have I heard that before of course in 95 it maybe was actual videotape these days it's digital recording but it's always ah doesn't that suck we ran out of recording space so obviously there's been tampering here and if you really look if you google this stuff and you look at it you'll see that The way the blast field was put together, there's no way it could have caused this damage. In fact, some columns were ripped down where there essentially could have only been 25 pounds per square inch.

1:08:28 of pressure and I say if you look at just for those of you who are on the directed energy weapons tip with me, look at the building from above and look at the nice beamed circles that have sheared off the front of that building. That's all I'll say about it. Good. But it's just interesting that the tapes appear to be edited. At the very moment I tell you that we should come back and talk about it. Very interesting. Maybe there is no coincidence. Yeah, there's no such thing as no coincidence. All right I got one more medical thing to play it's a thing and then we have to kind of thank some of their listeners who have given us some cash. Okay. But I do have I don't know what the record is but this is a one-minute commercial.

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1:20:17 Columbia University, hold on a second, University had the opportunity to investigate Adolf Hitler's skull. Did you... No, no, you got me on this one. You didn't hear about this one. Let me see which university it was. So they had this skull for, let me see, University of Connecticut. So they had the skull for like, you know, half a day. And of course, the story goes that Hitler's skulls on tour hits on tour, opening up for black eyed peas and and Lady Hawk.

1:20:56 and uh... now i'm not quite i bought there's a whole bunch of all of these links will be in the show notes uh... at no agenda show dot com and so they did dna testing on the skull now the story of course is that hitler shot himself in the head uh... near his bunker so that you know he couldn't be uh... he couldn't be with the way in prosecutor etc turns out the skull could only have belonged to a woman under forty years of age Now Hitler of course was over, he was like 56 when he suicided himself and he certainly as far as I know was not a woman. So this, you've probably heard of Operation Paperclip right John? No. You haven't heard of Operation Paperclip? They just go on with it, you always go, my god, you haven't watched that movie? You of all people.

1:21:49 Well operation paperclip you should google that and it's a real thing This is when they brought all the German scientists from Nazi Germany over to the United States To basically build the H bomb if you follow all of this logic, dude You you would almost have been brought him over to build rockets. Yeah. Well, yeah rockets in there I would go on with the story, but they this included the aid the air the nuclear nuclear technology So now now here's what the theorists are looking at so what happened then is they took all of these All of these Nazis and took them up to the somewhere near the North Pole

1:22:33 and they built a base there and this base in fact it had a name this was operation high jump again all these links and this is like mainstream news links and and you know historical documents that you can look at the Nazis were up there building shit like the v7 flying saucer and Admiral Byrd actually documented in his journal and again this is all you know historical fact which of course has been buried for years and dug up by people around the internet he actually in his log talks about flying over the North Pole

1:23:10 and all of a sudden he comes into this space in the middle of the polar ice cap where there's like animals, like mammoth-sized elephants or actual mammoths walking around. There's like green grass and then there's two flying saucers with swastikas as reported in his flight log that fly next to him and force him down to the ground. And so this is, and you're gonna love this, one of these flying saucers because of course the nazis you know they were they were going to take over the world from their base in uh... in uh... up near the north pole the the u s actually shot one down and one of these flying saucer type planes and guess where it landed roswell area fifty one

1:24:01 so So ladies and gentlemen, you can't get this kind of material anyplace else. No agenda show calm we So the theory is the theory is that Nazis are still running the show. That's basically it All right, but for those of you who are really into the fun stuff Take a look at the show notes. I'll put it all in there and The end is near my friends In fact, I think the end already came for John. I'm here. Oh my goodness. So, um... Got a lot of leftover clips. Yeah, should we actually play those on Sunday? Will they still be valid? Most of them are still relevant. Okay. Right, I got tons of stuff to do. You? I have to take a shower. Yes, you do. Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell

1:25:08 under pressing threat of the nabobbing negativism in Gibbon Nation West. I'm Adam Curry. And from Silicon Valley North, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will be talking to you right here on Sunday with another episode of the media assassination known as No Agenda.