58:56 Yeah, I like it. So what I find is disturbing the commentary Anyway that was my little contribution to the debate Alright There are tests coming out there that are going to be just saliva tests and its like what was the point of this other test unless they're planting stuff back there you know they jammed in there its like the aliens do when they grab ya and stick that transceiver up your nose thats what their doing Maybe? Let's talk a little bit about this guy. This is Mark Crispin Miller, now I mentioned before and the problem is this on a podcast that a lot of people... in fact the guy who sent me to this clip originally talked about telling you about The Red Scare Podcast which I'm sure you've listened too
59:51 Uh, yes. The Red Scare podcast is part of a group of podcasts which I like to call Giggling Dipshits and they're all the same just there's tons of them there's tons of these podcast it consists of two women usually around the same age kind of talking to each other in a different way. Some of them talk about sex, some talk about politics, they talk about all kinds of different things but they're giggling constantly, giggling because they crack each other up constantly and this is Red Scare Podcast is a version of this only they talk in a PBR fashion. They talk a little bit slow which brings
1:00:37 And because of that, it slows down the pace of the podcast and is extremely dull. So they bring this guy on... If you start doing your podcasts like this it's going to bore people stiff. No! Maybe he'll get picked up by NPR or will be highlighted by Apple on their homepage It could be, could be number one for a week Indeed we can do it So this Mark Crispin Miller was the NYU professor of who gave a course for 20 years and propaganda. Yeah, I know who that yes, I know who this guy is Of course yeah And and he started this year's course or actually his last year's course. It's propaganda We'll play some clips but I have to fill in a lot Okay because I can't I couldn't really I couldn't get the story by clipping just clipping it and it's just
1:01:30 I don't know what to tell you about this. That's okay, we love your stories! We can do it Let's go with Mark Crispin Miller 1 Correct me if i'm wrong you're suing NYU doing the faculty for... Specifically I am suing 19 of my department colleagues Okay Maybe 20 Thank you for warning me up front because I want to go on this podcast and I just want to talk like that back to her That's what he does. This is a problem with I mean, there's a lot of people that just mirror Yeah the host yeah What you're supposed to kind of do There's a lot of rules about how did converse and one of them is if somebody's gonna be like this And you have to be can't be like this too because if you start yelling and screaming it It's it just doesn't sound right? That's what Trump blew when in his one of his debates. Yes, it's unbalanced
1:02:17 Okay, here we go. Correct me if I'm wrong you're suing NYU doing the faculty for Specifically I'm suing 19 of my department colleagues okay Maybe 20 I think 20 who signed a letter to the dean of my school which is the Steinhardt School at NYU Demanding that he order a review mm-hmm of my conduct On the grounds that it's been egregious its brutality and lunacy I can give you the whole backstory because I think that's required for people to understand what they did why I'm sewing them Yeah, that was my next question. Apparently you've been bullying and terrorizing Well yeah Here's my story. Yeah, I've been teaching this
1:03:09 a course on propaganda for many years, at least 20 years. And that necessarily entails in my view grappling with propaganda drives that are ongoing at the time of the course or very recent ones. You know, propagandas and Anglo-American invention has been increasingly sophisticated and advanced over the centuries since its first huge manifestation in World War I Is there only one only one host on this show? No, there's two you hear the other girl giggling. Oh that was her Okay, I like this by the way. I like this a lot II do it I don't know the story but I can feel where it's going and I'm very excited Okay Well, I'm gonna have to not bring in some he had a brought him something called a kovat propaganda whoa cancel time
1:04:02 And he started discussing how and he said, here's the way you have to look at this. Look at the research and gave him a bunch of research to read about COVID masks about masking and how it was bullshit didn't mean anything. And then how they change out changed into differences and all the rest because part of the class it was a good study One of the students, I have to bring a lot of this in myself. One of the students tweeted, student with 76 followers tweeted this guy told us not to wear a mask he should be fired! Yep that was pretty much what you'd expect yeah and that's what happened and then all of a sudden it got you know a bunch of debates began on Twitter she had 76 followers here that was a key number big debate began on Twitter
1:04:47 The school decided to fire him Wow They sided with the girl that what the one tweet girl And then this story and here he goes. He continues with the story part two NYU essentially took her side First my chair tweeted his thanks to her and said, we as a department have made this a priority and are discussing next steps. Okay I don't know if The most senior member of the department, but I've been there since 97 and I am a member in any case And nobody from the department contacted me other than that one call from him. And here he is publicly thanking her for Demanding that I be fired and promising to take action on it which was really You know, that was gobsmacked by this Do you have a sense for how this?
1:05:46 Obscure tweet from an obscure account mushroom. I just wanted to mention do you hear how ugly that room sounds without a noise gate? I'm just being anal about it, but here's like a Like a vacuum cleaner in the background. Yeah, it's just a piece of crap You know that was gobsmacked by this um do you have a sense for how this is Obscure tweet from an obscure account mushroomed as control that we can get into That's a bigger conversation. Let me finish because it doesn't stop there The next day the Dean and there's a doctor who advises NYU on their covert regulations, you know which are draconian I
1:06:29 And the two of them emailed my other students directly without putting me on copy. First of all, making a ritual not to academic freedom – they always do that – and then sort of hinting that I'd given them dangerous misinformation and providing a link to what they called authoritative studies from CDC which If I had a conversation with them, the senders. I would have pointed out that the CDC until early April echoed this consensus of the studies that I had... Of not wearing masks right? Dr Fauci was on 60 Minutes explicitly saying you know people shouldn't wear masks Yeah this is great! This is really..I mean it's funny thing he's giving a class on
1:07:23 on real live propaganda going on right in front of our very eyes and he's defenseless against it. He's losing against the propaganda he is trying to teach! I guess that's a funny irony, I didn't even consider... Yeah Yeah, he's maybe should have backed it off a little bit. He did mention I had some other clips from him. These are ancillary they're about other things but it's all part of this conversation and the one that's kind of interesting was as long as the one on new totalitarianism which is he figures he's been a victim of but I should mention one thing before I forget