Cloudbusting

00:01 Where's my reel-to-reel recorder? I can't find it. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's September 13th 2009 time for your Gitmo Nation audio publication episode 130 This is no agenda Coming to you once again from the Crackpot Command Center located in the minimum security containment cell still under threat of eminent domain in San Francisco Gitmo nation west I'm Adam Curry and from what i suspect to be a cloud buster at work in cloudy northern silicon valley, I am John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah man did you hear that yesterday morning? Could you hear that where you were? Are you kidding?! I take that as a yes

00:46 So, I was looking at this. We have a weather pattern here which is if you look on the... If people out there want to go look at really good satellite maps, you should Go to Google and type in Purdue University Unisys Satellite. And there's a whole series of the, all the major satellites are documented at this Purdue University weather site. So you can look at 24-hour analysis of the satellites that show the water vapor satellite, they show the enhanced IR set, they show everything

01:24 So, here we are. We went out to dinner on Friday which we'll talk about in a minute Yes, yeah, we have too good point And so it was beautiful It was like this...We're having our Indian summer here in California By the way is now officially over with all of this because I sure hope No no no Okay, good This just temporary, temporary spike Right You know, you'll be...I don't know why this even happening Is pretty weird So anyway, so then they global warming of course John so then I guess it was that was it last night or the night before No a Saturday morning is when it happened for me right in there. Actually, I wish no Yeah You had to be you had you probably slept through the best part which was starting about 4 in the morning

02:09 When the first thunder started coming through which is rare We don't really have thunderstorms or lightning here ever and so there was like a lightning thunderstorm in fact on the map the weather map on The Purdue site they showed 255 strikes by 10 o'clock in the morning On Saturday morning. Oh, you know what? You know what could I just interrupt your work for one second Yeah, hold on a second now forget it But never mind, I'm sorry we're not streaming. Yeah know we are streaming it's just I wanted to do That couldn't find the button we haven't used it in so long I

02:54 Right, I'm sorry. We can do it again! So on Saturday morning... Ow cut all that bullshit out don't worry I got plenty of time to post the show. You have zero intent of ever doing any post-production on this show? No no i do from time to time you know I do when somebody comes in or something so So, there's all these lightning strikes. And so I go and look at the satellite maps and look at a 24-hour review and everything. There is just like one little ball in the basically, in fact up in Washington State my wife has gone on about how it's 70 degrees and Oregon's game yesterday, there was a football game last night in Oregon at Eugene and it was 85

03:38 And so meanwhile, I look at the map and there's just one little ball. It's just a smallest little storm it's just by itself and it just came into the Bay Area supposed to have dissipated by now but it seems to be lingering But I don't necessarily believe in this But I do have a, uh... When I was in the student, they did read a lot of stuff about and by Wilhelm Reich. Oh yeah! Wilhelm, of course is the Orgone Energy man. The Orgone Energy guy Which you know when you're a kid, it's as something I love Wilhelm Reich and his I love his sex energy And his anti-cancer wooden box. Oh, I've read so much about him Yeah But you didn't read it through you have never read because that you've never seen it the stuff that was burned there were still there Still there are still a lot of documents out to that That did get no they put him in jail and they burned all of his research

04:35 Yeah, because it was apparently so evil or could have been actually right I don't know if it is right or not but but I had a number of the documents that were burned Because some what he was It wasn't as though this stuff never got out. Wait a minute, you have his missing documents and you've never sent them to me? I have some of them. Well could you please send them to me?! You don't know where they are! Are you kidding me!? So uh... What am i thinking? What are YOU THINKING?? Alright, never mind If I find one or two of em' I think I blowned them out and their belong gone but there still float around in the underground Call Leo and ask for him back And so um

05:19 Not to go into it too much, but he most of his stuff was like a very long newsletter. He was mostly claiming which is the most of the stuff that was destroyed and very poorly documented in the later writings about reich he's mostly done but this is what i don't really want to get you these are like a new finder it was mostly about flying saucers and the long-term strategy of aliens to do what is called desertification So desertification, and there's a lot of writing about this. I gotta Google that while you're talking. Yeah, desertification...I'm sure it's on the net all over the place And the funny thing is I keep running into this desertification process when I travel When you travel the world you run into this This...and he points out one of things they've been trying to do is just turn the whole globe into a desert It's gonna take millennia to do it but But this is a good start

06:22 We've got to start here. California is a good place to start, as Eddie. But he's go this thing and says here's an example and it shows these temples and monuments and you see this occasionally when you look at it and he says its not soot but if you go the middle of nowhere where there's no chance of soot You'll find these old buildings that are decaying, these old cement and brick and mortar buildings. And they have this kind of black stuff on them. You see it all the time, it's all over the place. And he says its not soot and you can analyze this is not soot and there isn't any specific mold that some weird alien stuff that is processing everything and turning into sand anyway. No don't do it anyway are you kidding me? This is awesome I'm looking at the wiki page right now there's a picture of oh no this is great!

07:14 Oh no, I love the certification. Oh my goodness John! I love you thank you so keep your busy for oh yeah for the rest of the year just print it all out So anyway one of the things Reich did which i've always found fascinating because every once in a while somebody either runs into one of these things or they build the one, or something weird happens. These things called cloud busters Oh! Of course this is... yeah I know about that So a cloud buster is a buncha pipes that's grounded to a big lake usually some sort freshwater source That you aim and just aim it at the sky and forms up a storm Well Wilhelm Reich did a number experiments where he actually showed this working

08:00 Supposedly, and I've actually read a documentation from some guy who ran into his original equipment and cranked it up and aimed it across the water or someplace. And a big storm, lightning storm appeared and started... And these are literally like a series of tubes, right? Yeah they're basically tubes. Lutonium tubes I think. But anyway... So the way it's described, the way CloudBuster is described and the way it works matches almost just point for point checklists, check box by check box what we've experienced

08:38 Friday night and Saturday morning. I mean in terms of the nature of it, I mean a screwball storm nobody predicted it came out of the blue there's nothing else around it doesn't seem to be part of this system And it wasn't just like a storm you know what? I have this whole problem going on here where they're basically tearing the neighborhood down around me so I'm kind of paying attention to construction noise to complain that's another story which we should get into at different time and at 830 I literally thought they had dropped one of these huge, you know like 40 foot drill bits onto the concrete. I'm like holy crap what are these guys doing now? And it was literally such a lot... It was it was a real explosion almost and it woke me up and I actually got out of bed went to the window

09:34 Through open the sash and just to see what was going on, and there was of course nothing was happening there But then I saw the rain. I'm like my god that was a thunderbolt It was one of the loudest I've ever heard in my life Well There's quite a few of them And they kept going on and on and on and they were doing wasn't that severe there was but there is hail involved So it was hail I didn't have rain Lightning I'm in this city you're a couple miles away so about eight miles from there But whatever the case is it was it was all over the place and there was flashing and it was like wow boom boom boom boom boom And but then I went and looked on this on a satellite map in the 24-hour So I can tell you what this was about. I mean, I have the theory ready for you immediately Clearly well, it's very obvious Saturday was September 12th

10:25 and Glenn Beck had organized all of these tea parties across the nation so obviously what do you want to do when we want to disrupt, disrupt the people from protesting and marching? You create horrible weather. Nobody in San Francisco listens to Glenn Beck! They picked a wrong place are they that dumb?! Well it's not...they haven't quite perfected the cloud busting yet they're working on it. They're trying Hey, you know I want to try some of this cloud busting. There's got to be some mad scientist in the Bay Area who has these series of pipes we can test with Well if i was going to go with the conspiracy ideas and the cloud busting...I think that it was probably some crackpot up from Washington State

11:14 who came down here to try to disrupt the Cal Eastern Washington game which was going to be played in the Berkeley Hills that day. Of course, of course it's entertainment related! Ah excellent! To try and slosh up the field so they give you guys a chance even though it didn't work since Cal won 59-7 and so that didn't work out for him. Unless there was some other event, maybe a protest... I'm thinking what else was going on out here on the tour? There must have been something else happening but it makes so much sense and by the way there's a couple events i wouldn't mind disrupting so I want to try these tubes well now thing is when you read about the tubes

11:50 It's supposed to be a dangerous, because it involves this mysterious orgo and energy which also could be for all you know is dark version of dark energy which the physicists are always talking about. It involves it in such concentrations that if you don't ground these pipes right, essentially it just sucks the life out of you and you find yourself looking like an old man who's dead in a week. Oh wait a minute! Don't tell me you get like old and gray all of sudden John? Stay away from those pipes! You know that kind of thing so I mean there is non-trivial. There are bunch of people I have to say

12:29 I don't bring this up much and I don't usually mention the fact that I know anything about it. It's okay, I'm riveted please continue Yes, I figured but once you mention it like we just did It'll probably cut down on our contributions to the show, but you'll hear from a bunch of crackpots locals that are deeply into the Reich stuff and they probably have all of his material. All these newsletters and crazy things which has all this documentation about desertification

13:06 and the construction details for the Cloud Busters. And they'd probably, you know be glad to hear from you. They'll be glad to exchange email! It's adam at mevo dot com I would love to... Hey John by the way? I've got something for ya here. Hello Kettle this is The Pipe You are a crackpot man. You're an undercover crackpot. Nope Yeah, you are so anyway But yeah, do you'll be hearing from these people and here's what your ears I get? Here's where the results gonna be I can see it coming on my way Yeah, we'll have an orgone energy box in your place with this. It is an organ orgy bar couple the orgone blankets

13:52 No, I've seen all of them. I have not ordered an Orgone box but I have read it and... Yeah the blankets are fine you can put them in as a... It's supposed to either protect or even cure you from cancer I believe the Orgone energy box. If anybody wants to experience Orgone energy this is a parlor trick Wait a minute, okay. Let me record! Yes go Get yourself... Next time you have a can or drink of Coca-Cola which has the right coating inside which can create this effect It has to be a can Can of Cola When you dump it out get all the thing and then stick your finger into the can And you'll feel warm like it's warming up in there You'll feel your finger warming up

14:40 And that's orgo and energy? That's my guess, yeah. So what is it the carbonation or the... No no I'm talking about an empty can with no... Empty can! ...wash it out so there's no water in there nothing Oh okay I got it but I thought it was supposed to work with wood or like this was supposed to be a wood... The way it seems to work is that using of a series of insulators that are stacked one next to the other. Which is one of the reasons some people will notice a difference in their body temperature if they stack wool against silk, against cotton and you know... Yeah the layering effect as it were. But not but you could layer cotton cotton cotton or wool wool wool or cotton wool but if you put silk in there somewhere anywhere in the mix or you have like a different combination of things you'll find the effect to be somewhat interesting

15:31 I am going to dedicate the next couple of days to looking into orgone energy again. I remember you told me about this a year ago and i was so fascinated, and I was like wow! This is awesome! And please have a look and see if you can find some of the missing documents which of course you have in that big pile of crap which is known as your house. I would love...I would love to read some of those missing documents. Yeah well if I run into one at you they'll go under your box In the in the chat room no agenda chat calm people are asking if it's orgone energy or the sham Wow The Sham Wow stick your finger in the coke can and just in case you didn't know exactly what's going on here This is no agenda. And here is our motto Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth

16:29 All right, so we need a simple but effective formula. It really does work and we were having dinner and let's bookmark that to talk about dinner because it wasn't bad at least worth reviewing We both realized that on Thursday show uh... before the show had begun we had both already received links and emails or had seen whatever copies of the video of the acorn prostitution swindle. And, ah.. We don't always agree on this show but I think that we both agreed right off the bat that thing is fake Or it's a setup and its a scam Until the Acorn people came out and fired those people

17:22 Well that still doesn't convince me and there's a couple of things I want to say first of all. If you don't know what this is about then go to FoxNews.com You'll find out real fast! Or BigGovernment.com An undercover journalist, and i'm going do big air quotation marks here along with a independent filmmaker And this girl who who acted in this video set up was I think about 20. The guy by the way, we know his name but haven't seen him anywhere. Oh no! I saw him he was on Glenn Beck. Ok because Hannah Giles who is the aspiring journalist

18:09 James O'Keefe is the name of the filmmaker. So what they did is, if you haven't... and actually I think a lot of people haven't heard about this although most people who listen to our show probably have. They went into an Acorn office not just one but three times at least two that I know of and they basically go in asking for help, tax advice pitching themselves as a prostitute and her pimp. And not just any old prostitute but she wants to set up a brothel with illegal underage girls I mean it's just really unbelievable the first thing that i have to say when looking at this video how dumb are you

18:59 When a girl who looks like Hannah Giles shows up and says I'm a prostitute Because you know this is Elliot's if she was a prostitute. She was Elliott Spitzer Quality material. I mean this this girl looks so good She would be a five thousand dollar-a-night hooker not just some way and she did not look like a streetwalker No, wait, I mean she wasn't worn out looking I Mean she was beautiful or she is beautiful it totally I mean Alarm bells would have been going off my head from the get go is like oh yeah right you're a hooker uh-huh well funny

19:38 the straight walker that's getting straight. I know my hookers she could not have been a hooker no way it was just absolutely no way but you guys, please give me a freaking break and so yeah and i've watched the full unedited tape which is pretty or as they say on edited raw footage whatever and it's quite lengthy but i'm also looking at how this thing is shot Had that was you know, I've seen lots of undercover footage. This was spectacularly done I mean there they're right on target everyone's center frame I mean how could this have been just what it wasn't like a hat cam or an eyeglasses cam It must have been a bag on the table But even then that the shot all of a sudden levitates You got a shot from above looking down John my feeling is

20:34 I don't know about the Baltimore one, but the Boston one... Look you can hang up an acorn sign anywhere and put a couple of dumbbells in your room. And make this up! Clearly this Hannah Giles... She must have been working for Fox or for Glenn Beck or I've even seen I was watching, what's that show Red Eye which is on at night on Fox with that weird guy with... A weird guy on Fox? Yeah go figure. And he had um ah what's her name Cups is that a journalist cups? I don't know what you're talking about Well anyway she said she slipped up I think she's also a fox stringer or journalist She says well you know Hannah's a really good friend of mine and like wait a minute

21:19 Yeah, yeah and I recorded it but of course i didn't have time to pull the clip. Let's pull that clip because I got the clip of two of them being interviewed by Beck on Thursday and you pull that clip because that makes things real interesting if thats true here is the way...I saw the two of them with the last interview they did was on Beck and they had Hannah and the guy whatever his name is what's uh... you have it? O'Keefe James O'Keefe. who's a real kind of a, he's kind of thin emaciated character. He just seems like a

21:59 like matic or so you just kind of a nervous john dore alike dot oh that's great and let me ask you what i think it was let's compare this guy to one of my main investors thank you for not missing in terms of his body is physique ice-skis then and uh... and shaky and uh... i think he'd go on the kids keep going please is good still alive and hannah is this year she's twenty such another all there's the ten o'clock Yeah, there it goes. She's 20 years old and she is very pretty... She is a horrible speaker for someone who wants to be a journalist? I was surprised she wasn't as bad as you described her when it comes to speaking Maybe she has gotten better in that Well, maybe but she said that it was her idea

22:48 Yes, she says it is I was jogging and then I saw some acorn people and I thought hey why don't go scam them like huh. Well the way she said that she did she said the way she does her first appearance on Glenn Beck so i think he's probably honed or story a little bit since the whole story is that she's first you saw something acorn projects some places that I guess they were somehow behind and then she saw the offices and thought they were kinda shabby and wonder where all this money was going in wonder what the hell with what did deal wasn't she decided to go in there and run a sksk scam on him and yeah I and apparently she did it more than one office yes he didn't Baltimore I think there was another one

23:30 Well now the one in Baltimore is interesting because... By the way, a lot of traveling Boston to Baltimore you know just very elaborate and she says she used all of her savings to do other somethings there's something fish too many loose ends that really is and i love it when we can we don't even know what adam and john come up with a conspiracy theory about something as beautiful as screwing acorn you know because of course i love it right isn't whatever the fed but a fantastic setup but i did it smells wrong to me it really does so meanwhile the thing that uh... that really is going to be interesting to see how they had deal with the fact that the district attorney

24:09 uh... maybe looking into like this taping as some sort of illegally obtained out she's a so okay yeah the penalty for unlawful repair here's where it goes if you determine that the artist but the audio person portion only at the u turk to video what if he was illegally obtained it would be a legal under maryland law and then by the way they need these laws in maryland an elsewhere to protect corrupt officials yes who do exactly the same thing there is that there's a corruption problem in the can the united states of america that needs to be protected by these laws that say you can't record somebody when they are doing something illegal. I mean the police can but they need a warrant even for that, but this is in the open air it seems to me if your standing in some place and your talking

25:01 I should be able to record that conversation. You know, this is interesting John because... Oh my god! I have no life Mickey's not here. I was watching Geraldo last night Nooo! Yes yes and so they were talking about the ESPN sportscaster who was filmed naked in her hotel room you know that story right? Yeah, you know I'm kind of... Dude! I gotta send you the link. You got to see the video. Oh my god. This is the awesomest video i've ever seen so anyway Geraldo is sitting there saying

25:38 Because they always have like some failed lawyer who's like, well you know this you can't just illegally videotape people through peepholes and blah blah. And Geraldo I couldn't believe he was saying well no that's not illegal you can do that He was actually defending Peephole videos? Defending peephole videos! Of course he is because he wants to build a precedence for this, I presume a Fox set up of the acorn videoing. So there's going to be a debate right now look you can't wiretap people you can videotape people well i'm sorry in America you can apparently wiretap people but this will be a debate I think we're on to something here is this legal or not? No I think it's gonna this thing is gonna come to ahead these two people are are gonna be at the center of it

26:24 But anyway, a violation of Maryland law. The annotated code of Maryland Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article 10-402 which requires two party consent The penalty for the unlawful interception of the audio disclosure or use is a felony punishable from up to five years in jail. I don't understand, how does this work? You know, i've been reading the book The Informant which is about the Archer Daniels Midland price fixing scandal of the 80's which by the way is coming out September 18th as movie with Matt Damon and will be doing review on Thursday of the book

27:01 This is all about the illegal wiretapping and recording. And I think you'll see that this is going to be a major, major point of discussion particularly as it pertains to wiretapping, to the Aaron Andrews peephole video, to the Acorn recording... Oh was Aaron Andrews? Oh my god she's so... oh man And at one point she bends over the bathtub, John. You have to wonder about if she's like... Yeah yeah yeah, she probably didn't want this. Hold on a second I just gotta- Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Sorry just had to disrupt myself for a second otherwise i'll never get off it

27:54 I'm getting you a link to the video. Actually, photos of Nancy Pelosi do help too by the way She's got a nice rack Who? Nancy Pelosi! I know but i'm just saying if you know she is not an exciting woman Anyway back to the topic at hand Yeah Aaron Andrews Okay, well send me that link I have to check this out. You'll see if it maybe it's a fake Oh no No It's not I'm gonna send you the what they did apparently and we'll send you the Google video page What they apparently did is they reversed the people

28:33 You know the spy glass door people they were versatile doing it in a bathroom. No, no She's in her hotel room So there's two videos though she's in her hotel room and yeah Yeah, they flipped it around as they held up the camera like by the way came from a Seinfeld episode Oh really? Yeah, they... Uh-oh! Life imitates art. I love it This Kramer had a peephole and he decided that it would be wise to reverse it And Jerry kept asking why because somebody might be inside ready to sneak up on me So I can look inside before I go in

29:11 well uh... you know erin andrews has been on oprah and it was no help bill o'reilly does that uh... facial expression segment where he has some so-called experts saying well look at how this person responds now they slow it down in this is what this body movement means this is what the raising of the eyebrows mean so the uh... reassertion in that segment that he had was that she really isn't too disturbed by this video andy And and the attention it has garnered her yeah, that's what I would first thing. I was I wish I would think of because any cuz it goes back to the you know Paris Hilton and all the rest of these women who have got a huge publicity and if you look at Aaron Andrews she has a bit of Paris Hilton look in her face I might add

30:03 And she, you know the other thing is typically the women who do this it's not as though she's a fat pig that's embarrassed by the thing. No although I will say that if that had happened to me first of all That would be very sad and hurtful for most people's eyes but Turn down your speakers! God they're so low now its ridiculous that wasn't me or your yelling Well I'm excited what can I tell ya If I traveled a lot and I was in hotel rooms a lot, which I am and this had happened to me. I definitely would be You know worried every single time you know that that's a Knowing that that could happen to you. That's freaky. I mean it that could definitely freak anyone out So I don't want to spare advice for her because you know shit. I mean it's wrong you want my advice Yeah check the people

30:59 Yeah, peephole check is good. I always check the people anyway so when you see what...you know look at it and look through it to see if there's anything that you can't see. I'm trying to think what was in the UK many years ago some guy was bringing a trial again like some sex offender trial something about porn and they put a camera in this guy's hotel room and they basically filmed him masturbating to porn movies No God! I gotta look that story up. It was a good one So, I'm looking...I go to...I put Erin Andrews in Google and then hit the images Holy crap! Yeah She's beautiful She got a nice figure Oh my God she is beautiful

31:48 But you know how a lot of women, and we should get off this topic. A lot of women when they don't know they're being filmed and there's something to be said for this... When they don't know that they are being filmed the gut comes out a little bit They kind of not really attractive stuff You know it is like human beings But when they know that they're being looked at, the gut is in. They're standing straight. They are twirling their hair... I'm just saying! Do you think by observing this video which i won't look at By observing this video would you analyze it as though she knew she was being filmed? I would say its possible Because she kept a gut and she was like always looking good Yes

32:42 I would say it's possible. Again, it is a horrible thing for this to happen. Even when...I was papped paparazzi a couple of times in Holland actually in situations outside but you know stuff that was impersonal situations And then you see this show up in a magazine and like, oh my god. I really didn't know there was someone there waiting for me looking for me and taking my picture. No, it feels weird! This has been going on since i've been 19 but its like... Oh shit man! You feel a little violated. It's creepy. It really is a creepy feeling so im all for that but that of course is why celebrities make the big bucks

33:33 So here's Erin Anderson on the cover of FHM magazine. I sent you the link Is this new? No, I don't know if it is new or not. I mean, I think i've seen her work You know on and off on uh, yeah, there's a competitive business. She good. She good journalist That's the thing is I mean, I don't remember her. I mean There's a bunch of ones that are pretty good. There's one in particular this blonde. I can't remember her name offhand But she's kind of interesting because she's, I can't remember her name but I think she's still at ESPN. She's interesting because she moves in and cozies up to the players and actually pushes herself up like a masher. Ah! Like it, ah like it And the guys are like ugh so they get very tense What do the guys like John? They get tense

34:25 Alright, well let's move off of this but let's keep our eye on it. So a couple of things first of all the legality of taping someone and I've always understood by the way that you are not allowed, and I think this is true pretty much everywhere. It's like a... And of course there are human rights unless of course you're the prince and princess of the Netherlands then you can't take any pictures or publish them no matter what you doing. You know? You have to have the New World Order power to stop that But otherwise, I believe there's going to be a big broad discussion about Is it legal to film someone is illegal to fill someone if they're celebrity? Is it legal to film or photograph someone if they're in the privacy of their own home. It's a hotel room considered your home Temporarily when this will be a discussion its coming up mark my words

35:17 Well, that thing with Aaron Andrews is obviously illegal because that's like shooting pictures through the window. The thing with the taping or getting the vocal off of a YouTube clip from a movie you took I think it's state to state and more corrupt states like Maryland apparently would have more these laws than other states because look at what 60 Minutes does and all these other... How about Catcher Predator? It's okay if its a predator But it's not going to be okay if it's an acorn. I think they run those shows in states where that law doesn't exist, this is not a federal law we're talking about. No, I think most of those shows are rigged John, thats what I'm thinking. It's all rigged. Although they can find these... my favorite Catcher Predator which I think is the sleaziest show ever

36:07 is they cut one guy and then like three weeks later they cut the same guy. Same guy, yeah this... He's like some cross-eyed little twerp that was doing the wrong thing. It's unbelievable! For me to take away from this and as I said i'm home alone right now although actually my daughter's coming out next week so it'll be great she will be here for a while in the Bay Area My takeaway is that we never watch television really. There's a couple things we watch, you know Mickey forces me to watch Real Time with Bill Maher but thats great because I get to go oh brother all the time. That show just gets worse by the week! Yeah more about that in a moment and then from time-to-time will watch real housewives of dot dot dot but i find myself with plenty of stuff to do

36:56 On the couch, and before you know it four hours has passed! Four hours!! I'm like-I've sit-I've been completely hypnotized. I'm sitting here as a lethargic noob And I'm like, and I have been in television even in 1982 we were faking shit on television. Yeah! I have a satellite interview with Janet Jackson bullshit...I was just timing my questions in the answers of an electronic press kit which by the way came on videotape. And by the way most of the people you hear these all the time not as much as they used to come on vinyl You used to get these things at the radio station. Oh, yeah! Oh yeah you'd get the... You could play it like three times and it would be all cruddy. Right, you had your main guy at the station, you put the vinyl thing on and he would interview this person who was just a bunch of clips which by the way is where I think it's the TV show later called Space Ghost

37:55 Kind of did a takeoff on this on the cable network where they were they would take these interviews And then they would just take the answers and then just didn't redo the question. Yeah crazy well like The John Stewart Show is when When, what's her name? Samantha Bee goes and interviews politicians. And she does all the crazy questions and then they have the answers edited in. Yeah or the dumb looks... I mean people don't really know how it works so how it used to work you go to interview somebody and this still happens this way every single day It's a one camera shot

38:35 right and then you see the conversation on television and you see the over-the-shoulder from the interviewer and then it'll switch back to see the interviewer's questions which is called B roll and that was referred well we call it naughty in fact most certainly politicians but most celebrities know you do the interview, the interview is done with a camera over the interviewer's shoulder. And then after the interview is done, you always have about five minutes left and the producers who are there will say okay we need to do some noughties and what that means is they then reverse the angle put it behind this celebrity so that

39:12 you have the interviewer nodding going, yeah interesting and then also when the celebrity then leaves then they'll keep that camera shot and the interviewer will ask all of the questions again. And then that's edited together to give you the impression that there is actual conversation going on shot with multiple cameras. Often times you can see that the either the person answering or the or the person asking a question you'll see their mouth with the side of their face moving not in sync with the words. Often times, always. All right I've never seen an interview done it with that technique where you haven't seen them It is time for me once again i do what just about once every year The Zen TV experiment You must read this article and when to put it in the show notes at no agenda show

40:05 The Zen TV experiment really helps you understand and gives you a number of... Hey, last time I posted this was July 15th 2007. Wow! I skipped the year, I guess. I'm going to put that in the show notes. It gives you couple of exercises So you can understand how television fools you consistently. I mean, CONSISTENTLY! And I just realized yesterday, nothing is real. This is the matrix! This is the matrix! So anyway when I was at Tech TV we used to do the Silicon Spin show and so they kept redesigning it because the guy who's running the network just thought that Chris Matthews was the greatest guy in the world and he was on this channel the same time as I was on so he obviously never watched my show ever

41:05 Because he's just watching Chris Matthews. So one day they decided to change the format of the show completely Yeah, so it was like basically fashioned after Chris Chris Matthews And so they had but we had to have satellite feeds out of these few remotes because it's cool They brought these people into this studio and sat him in a chair across The studio with a camera on them and put them in a box as though they were It's a remote Well that's like the legendary YouTube footage of I think Gulf War One. where the guys are in a blue screen studio putting on their gas masks and helmets like there's going to be a chemical attack. Literally, it wasn't green screen in those days, it was blue screen. They're literally in a blue-screen box that is supposed to be the hotel lobby of the Baghdad Hilton and they do have a real tree like a lobby palm tree sitting there

42:04 And they're like, oh, they're running around. But it's in a studio I mean this trickery is what it is Even on the remote if you remember there are bunch of YouTube videos about the person doing their Oh we have this huge flood and then a guy walks by and waders It's like an inch thick Oh yeah, well so turn it off is what I'd say. And the only thing that really works is live television and even that... Even that is tricked out to no end these days they're so good! Do you remember that Flight 504 or whatever? There was an awesome video which came out around 2002 where there's a guy driving on the highway and all of sudden this plane lands right behind him

42:56 You know I don't remember that. I'll have to look that up. I think it was flight 504 It's a joke is basically it's a joke video, but it is so well done and when you realize what what is possible as far back as 2002 or dare I say if You want to see what's possible? I mean of the place I think the first movie that exploited this to the max not in terms of CG, you know like Star Wars But in terms of like faking reality was the what's-the-movie Tom Hanks where he played there running guy who's an idiot Oh, Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump! There are scenes in there that are just... I mean thousands of birds and all these things that never existed in the real world it looks absolutely fantastic, it looks absolutely real now the giant war movies they have people that look like they're fighting in the background also there's nobody

43:46 I mean that the whole thing has gotten to the point where you can just create reality and i think Wag The Dog kind of told this story about how you can do this. Ah John, thank you! You have...I have led you down exactly to where I want you to be What a wag the dog yes because my belief is that it was missiles that hit the twin towers and what people did what you saw everyone says they saw the planes hit they saw it on television there were only five video feeds available at the time all used by the same networks. There was a 17 second delay in the live quote live feed, My belief

44:28 is that video trickery was used on 9-11. WTC7 won't go away! So, yeah then you sent me a link to this horrible film run by a bunch of crackpots... No no I gave you the film only for the aviation pieces because i as an airman fundamentally disagree with what is the official story in the 9 11 commission report and the NIST report the only the aviation pieces, the speed of aircraft at the altitude they were flying, the maneuvers being made. I only say... The video of course is a crackpot video but if there's no other way to convey this information to non-aviators you know if you don't even even the black box data which was sent by the government

45:17 It just doesn't add up. The plane that flew into the Pentagon actually overflew it by 250 feet according to their own data because they forgot to adjust or doctor the data for the altitude pressure setting on that very day, so So, this is... I'm not saying anything else than that. That as an aviator and as a airman their data does not add up and you gotta clear that for me until you do that I don't believe anything else in the report. Well it's fine but i tell you this there's no way after that first building was hit missile or no missile

45:54 everybody in New York City wasn't looking up at that, at those two towers and the second plane came in. Do you realize? It was coming in slow speed unless it was a cruise missile... Yes John yes and there are hundreds of mainstream media news reports of people saying it was a small plane, it looked like a Cessna, it looked like something military. And when you look in the sky... Do you know how hard it is to determine the size of an object when you look in the sky? A cruise missile can easily Easily be mistaken for an airplane particularly if you're looking for an airplane, it's gonna look like an airplane Yeah But why would you be looking for an airplane because I think cuz you just heard that an airplane hit the first tower So you learn about them thousands of people that weren't watching television and we're down on the ground Looking up and those people are on record saying it looked like a small error. That's only dead That's just starting to show up on record. I'd like to hear from some people We have listeners

46:53 that I'm not buying all these crazy reports that come in from these crackpots who are obviously nutcases because you can just take a look at their own websites and these people are unbalanced. And so they go find people or people that'll just say anything, because I can go out into street right now and have it just say hey here's what I want you to say, can you do that? Oh yeah sure! John of course you can, of course, I totally agree. So let's take it away from the video Let's just forget the fact that if you watch the official news footage of the second tower, that the nose of the airplane that goes in comes out the other side intact. You can actually see it coming out the other side of the building with a nose intact!

47:41 Okay, so something's doctored somewhere either in these it So maybe it's a bogus recording of the video. Maybe it was something that was done live in the 17-second delay It doesn't matter It really doesn't matter all I'm saying is things like the flight path from the flight data recorder Which by the way rebooted 18 times in the short flight? It was it made and The claim or assertion that a 737 can fly at 550 miles an hour at 1500 feet is bullshit. It is physically impossible, the engines will not even stay lit!

48:19 The wings would be ripped off. You cannot do that, it is just not possible so they have to either explain to me why they came up with that number and how about those phone calls? How about this for there were no air phones on those aircraft in 2002 They've been taken out and there was no technology to make cell phone calls from airplanes at the time yet we have 10, 20, 30 different recordings people calling back. That's technology that just wasn't there at the time! That's all I'm saying...I know aviation that's all i know The maneuvers that were made? No freaking way! I think you've made yourself clear on this point more than a few times Let's move on Did you hear about the big explosion in Ontario? no I have not heard about a big explosion in ontario The pipeline, the Trans-Canada Natural Gas Pipeline blew up

49:21 Oh, it did? Yeah. I mean why do we hear about this right? This is news to me! No... Why would you put that on the air when we've got Aaron naked?! Give me a break! Nothing to see here. Uh.... Yeah, I got it for ya. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Ooh, look at that! An explosion along a Trans-Canada natural gas line in northern Ontario on Saturday sent a huge column of fire into the sky One man who was two miles away had actually sent him and his two sons flying through the air. Oh God! Let me see what the... A pillar of fire about 200 meters high, that's 600 feet possibly higher so they literally blew up a piece of the pipeline which I presume is kind of important Yeah it's amazing they can fix those things as fast as they can. Oh really?

50:22 Yeah. Well I just find it interesting, isn't Canadian gas important or is it only the oil that's important that comes from Canada? No we use both. We use more gas than oil. Wouldn't that be something to say like hey damn we got a shore this up we gotta do something? I don't know maybe they don't want maybe they don't want us to say these things. Let me just let me just do a little Google search here. Go ahead. Well, I lost my train of thought just in the middle of it Step away from these rays coming in through the window and I don't know what they are step away from the Oregon machine

51:06 Calgary Sun, TransCanada Line. I don't see a single US publication reporting on this. This is okay now that i got my thought back. This has reminded me of the numerous breaks in the various pieces of fiber around the country that have been caused by vandalism as they like to put it. Oh right, we haven't talked about that. I'm totally convinced there's somebody or some group or somebody is testing the network and in other words if you break let's see lets say if I break the fiber here here and here what are the results? Okay, I see what the results are and then I break the fiber here and here. What are the results? In other words, I'm reverse engineering the grid in such a way that I know which two or three places to break permanently to bring down the net.

51:58 And nobody reports on this because it's, I don't know why. I wrote it up on a Twitter thing for people to report to me when they had local events. And then Twitter went down? I got a whole bunch of them! People said there was one in Chicago and there is another over here and I'm in Louisville Kentucky that happened blah blah blah...and they're just scattered all over the place so its not like you can put your finger you know on anything because it's like, you know local event here local event there. Because we don't... our national news doesn't really try to consolidate many little local things that are coincidental so you could get a lot of research in this in the country because its so big by doing little local things like rob a bank or do... Hey! That is good idea kids! Go out and Rob a Bank I mean cuz if you know if a bank has robbed in Charleston South Carolina

52:50 And like they shoot everybody in the bank or gas it, or they do something weird like they use sarin gas at a bank robbery. Something strange happens and then network news doesn't pick it up and they won't because its just in Charleston You don't know that this is part of a bigger scheme because you're never going to hear about it Exactly. You're not going to hear about it in Houston! Well, but even things that happen in our nation's capital you don't really even hear about. You may have heard briefly just briefly about the panic on the Potomac You didn't even hear about that, did you? No I remember something about it. Okay so all of the sudden briefly though because it immediately got squashed there was this report that a Coast Guard... Oh right right right right. A coast guard boat was firing on a private craft

53:40 Well, hold on a second. Which is funny in itself? Well it's funny unless you think that I believe there was actually an assassination attempt on the president and i'll tell you why first of all yeah well the way this was passed off is that the Coast Guard were on 9-11 that the Coast Guard was doing a drill a practice with uh... you know firing guns but in reality The president was about to cross, in his motorcade, was about to cross the bridge on I think it's I-395. I'll have to look that up in a moment and at the exact same moment as he is approaching this bridge which then the Coast Guard starts well this is what I think happened they start firing on this private craft

54:33 and it is my belief that there was a plot to blow up the bridge at the moment the president's motorcade crossed it. And even if that's crazy crackpot theory, its'at least worth mentioning all this stuff took place when the president was going right over this so-called exercise and there is one uh... the baltimore sun reported on it and they have some of the facts During the exercise which began 930m for 25 foot Patrol craft churned up the surface of the river while a Coast Guard helicopter zoomed overhead now CNN unaware that it was only a simulated confrontation

55:15 which was monitoring police radio frequencies, relayed the Coast Guard conversations to an audience. To his audience within minutes Reuters news agency and Fox News channel picked up the CNN story so then it was like oh my god there's something going on you know they stopped traffic at Dulles Airport you know that's like they shut everything down and then immediately the word goes out no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no But President Barack Obama who attended the Pentagon ceremony with his wife Michelle crossed the Potomac Bridge close to the scene around the time that the exercise was underway. Okay, so that's according to The Baltimore Sun I believe there was an assassination attempt on the president it is certainly not unthinkable

56:00 No, I mean the presidents today are... there's constant plotting going on. This is why the Secret Service has to be so... Well, I'll take it one step further. I think that the CIA and... are at war technically with the Obama administration. Well... And I think... It's interesting... Yes, I think CIA is still pretty much... they're Cheney's boys and Bush's boys Maybe even Bill Clinton's boys to some degree and they are like, they're just not taking any shit. They're not listening to him That's why Obama has his own little Force that he set up to the old Oh CIA can interview interrogate Terrorists anymore know my guys are gonna do that I think there's a war going on between the CIA and the Obama administration You know, I've heard stranger things

57:03 It's a possibility. But you know, they're gonna have... I don't know It's a good theory. I like the idea of the, uh... The whole thing was a little sketchy this coast guard thing and then somebody got reprimanded for what were you thinking? It was 9-11. Yeah it doesn't make any sense! Oh yeah it's like oh I'm sorry I didn't mean for Air Force One to fly so close to Manhattan and circle around You know, oh that was just stupid we'll fire the guy or he'll resign No no no, I don't believe this shit really, really don't.

57:50 on that took place during that incident and they made this point which is very easy, so why is thing flying around at all? You can photoshop it anywhere. And they showed it photoshopped in a bathroom. Exactly! Trickery... exactly So what's the point of actually having to take these pictures when you can just fake it Well that cheaper cheaper by the way, you know it's flying a 747 around for a half hour is not it It's as expensive. I mean you can have all the Photoshop experts in the world and do a better job Yes, but it would be a better it'd be a better job and I will say that these theories that

58:27 run around in my head about the CIA and Obama actually lead me to believe or to at least consider that Obama is a kind of good guy, and actually trying to make something good happen. But he ain't gonna get too far with you know, the CIA killed JFK we all know that forget about it. Well will see I don't think you can afford to...I don't think the government can afford to assassinate a black president.

59:04 The repercussions would be ridiculous. I think you should actually protect it, but I think he'd be more likely to be protected Yeah but i'll tell you something that i've also noticed and maybe this ties into it and boy we're really on our crackpot roll today aren't We? Yes because we start with the Wilhelm Reich craziness Well thanks! I appreciate it watching real time with Bill Maher on Friday night and I do not like this program. Actually sometimes Maher says something like, yeah okay i'm down with that, I agree with that but here's what he is saying more and more and more and he had Kathy Griffin on who actually said it out loud a couple of times It appears now this is kind the mean if you are against Obama

59:48 or if you yell you lie at an address to the joint house. By the way, just as an aside in the Parliament of Great Britain and Canada or Canada. They do that all the time! It's like you're crazy not to do it. But, it is different there is a difference because they way they do it is... The Honourable Gentleman Is A Liar You have to say the Honourable Gentleman That's in the Great Britain but you haven't seen the Canadian Parliament They are completely out of control. They yell YOU SUCK The same thing is happening in Australia as well, by the way. They've had a couple of big fights there but anyway we digress if you are against Obama You these days are pretty much deemed a racist and this is what Bill Maher does If you have a chance John if you have a chance to look at a replay Otherwise I haven't recorded now Look at his plays all week doing bill Maher Is saying this you can watch the beginning the middle of the end? You can fast-forward

1:00:50 Every single time he says these people aren't against his policies They just don't like the idea of a black man in the White House And I think this is real. This is a meme that I am very very afraid of Because this is a perfect setup to assassinate The first black president and then start an all-out God forsaken fucked up civil war in United States It's a setup. It is a setup and Coulter saying it of all people, but Bill Maher man in his monologue in his interviews and his panel discussion... ...it's always like they the conservatives but with that he means Republicans they just don't like the idea of a black man in the White House He's saying it straight up And that to me itself is a racist comment! And its incendiary

1:01:46 It's so wrong on so many levels and no one is calling him out on it. Hey, let me call him out! Bill Maher stop that shit you dick! Stop it! Stop it, stop it, stop it! Yeah I think he got a point there...I've noticed this too And Mara, of course I can't take it anymore anyway because you have to wonder why he's even got this show. Thank you! Another good point Because he is not the best of breed Do we remember Bill Maher what happened? Most people don't remember this John you and i are both old enough on December, maybe it was December, September 11th or probably the 12th or 13th he had a show in New York. It was I think it was a network show but it was... He was on ABC and it's called Politically Correct. Politically Incorrect. Incorrect right? And which is bullshit because it was so politically correct that its ridiculous! No no I think it was called Politically Incorrect. Now I know but I'm just saying it wasn't politically incorrect. And he said on his show you know

1:02:45 Actually, the real heroes here are the terrorists. It takes a lot of balls to use box cutters... ...to hijack a plane and then fly it to your death into a tower. This guy, it was the outrage of the week! He got kicked off the air immediately sponsors pulled out from the entire network and this guy was... I think he went on to live in Australia for a year or two literally left the country didn't he? I think you had actually leave the country but he also don't forget to add insult injury called American soldiers cowards

1:03:21 for using cruise missiles instead of having the balls to go in there with the box cutters or whatever it was a I actually watched that show. I watched the show too, and i was sitting there going like well I understand your point but... It was a...I thought my jaw hit the floor Yeah! Of course! I said this guy is so naive to say this at this moment he is fucked And he was and now he's back with all of this? And how did he get that? How could anyone say, you know what I think I'll take you on man. I think I'll give you a show That's really good Let's bring back Bill Maher how quickly we forget when were in shock because that were still in shock from 9-11 We are completely in shock which is how the financial terrorists were able to go and steal our money

1:04:10 and why now it's happening this is these thing i'd really believe in whether there's a global your share of jessie you're suggesting that marr uses to yes only or bag man for some other uh... intellectual bag man let me ask you after some other group that has an agenda and something else interesting happen on the show he had on his program governor and our governor um... congressman anthony wiener And what's interesting about Wiener is that in early 90s he was a councilman in New York, in Brooklyn I believe.

1:04:46 CNN asked me to do an episode of one of their kind of hip political programs and their idea was let's have the young MTV guy go interview the young councilman. So I hung out with him for a whole day, I interviewed him on the street meeting old people, I interviewed them in a pool hall – his neighborhood pool hall but he was Chuck Schumer's boy And so I actually went and interviewed Chuck Schumer, and I'll never forget that interview because I had my questions but I really was not aware politically at all. I didn't know shit! Not that I know anything now but certainly a lot less... And I remember these questions that CNN basically given me

1:05:24 And I asked a couple of questions and they must have been real like softballs or something. Schumer just ripped me an asshole, and I was like oh my god you know I don't know what the fuck i'm talking about here this guy is running circle in it this is not Madonna who are interviewing this dude really knows what he's saying and watch this guy, watch Anthony Weiner. Very interesting guy actually not pro-Obama, pro presidency in general had some really interesting things to say about health care stuff that you and I would actually agree with him kind of like John

1:06:01 But it's very fun for me to see how Chuck Schumer is set up and now he is brought into Bill Maher show. Watch this guy, watch this guy he is going to rise very quickly to stardom and literally came from either the Bronx or Brooklyn I can't remember as a councilman all of sudden 15 years later this guys a congressmen? It's very, very interesting and it just to me adds more fuel to the fire that burns inside of me. We know nothing about how it actually works and its a big game and we're not in it. Politics is show business for ugly people!

1:06:43 Well, we're not in it but for one thing the people out there who listen to this show and we have plenty of listeners and a lot of them give us money. One thing for sure we are decent not probably the best in the world because you know I have some personality were decent at deconstructing as best we can some of these things that take place in front of us In fact I think that deconstruction of the SEIU thing we did last week or actually you came up with was just a stunner. And some of these other things, these theoreticals that we're dreaming up as we try to make sense...

1:07:20 of the world, of the world. Well it makes sense out of things like you know let's ask the question again why is Bill Maher on HBO at all? Not that he doesn't deserve to work it's just that he's not the best of breed for that kind of a show Why is he on that show I mean and out of the blue after doing what he did on The Other Show which is burn the basically burned the network and burned the sponsors And so Bill Maher uh... bill o'reilly glenn beck uh... that was the dude with a big head and i'm assembly c overman these guys are making millions and millions of dollars we're sitting here twice a week it's about three hours we have no writers we have no staff where what i think were actually some by certainly i feel we put ourselves out there in some form of

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1:18:25 who was already set to go to jail for some, what was it? Eight and a half million dollar fraud. I guess he took payoffs for some roofing contract at O'Hare International Airport. That would be good one but he was also... O'Hare in Chicago eh? Yeah you don't say eh! He was also indicted and was set to testify in the Blagojevich trial, he took an overdose of aspirin and died. Overdose of aspirin? I'm not kidding you! An overdose of aspirin How much aspirin do you have to take? Is there anything in the story about that? Oh please... No, of course there's not

1:19:14 of course not so this guy have you know and we're going to just back in the news now he's written his book and uh... i'm not quite sure which side he's on but this is obviously about team uh... he says that uh... rom immanuel literally told him hey man i want you to take care of this uh... the senate seat for me because when I'm after like two years in the Obama administration, and want to get out. I wanna get back into my seat of real power of course because you know that's where you've got some power particularly if your in the Chicago club and so Blagojevich being a good soldier did so and of course he got busted and uh... so i have a feeling that this Kelly guy probably had some information people didn't want him too

1:20:01 I didn't want him to let see the light of day. That's why I would like to invite if you know, if anybody out there, you end up with information that would be extremely damaging to the power structure? What we do here is just deconstruct stuff and let chips fall where they may but we don't really know anything But if you ever have that kind of information and something like this comes up, I would advise you to just get out of the country. Yeah! Just leave. Forget about it and leave. Now there is a little bit of theory here John... Of course you could also say... Because remember this guy's about to go to jail he's indicted to testify You know? I haven't seen a body

1:20:43 He's kind of small potatoes to be pulling that stunt, don't you think? I don't know. You know what I mean this goes all the way This is related to Tony Rezgo. This is related so it's directly related to Obama and to Rahm Emanuel Now he could be in Costa Rica There's a lot going on there And then I just wanted to say who was that guy we were talking about at dinner who was just released from jail The crazy senator with the wig Oh yeah, you can remember his name. I can never remember James put on the Thursday list crazy senator Yeah Maybe somebody in the chat room knows Crazy Senator with a wig Traffickant He went to jail for seven years and he was the only guy ever

1:21:38 get out of a RICO charge by representing himself and basically they set him up. But this guy is on television saying, and this is what he's saying... He's saying I just want you to know that Israel controls the Senate and the Congress And of course he did the big no-no This is one you never do. He says Israel controls all our media Oops! That's a good way to get suicided James Interesting guy keep your eye on him James Traficant. You know, that's just another to me Just another Jew hater. Yeah, he probably is but he's but you know interesting entertainment yeah I know it's entertaining to a point But as it reminds me of that crazy video sent me if used look deep in the behind the scenes and all those people That were responsible for producing nothing there are all a bunch of Nazis. I mean they just their

1:22:31 It's just unconscionable. I mean the fact of the matter is the media, last time i looked was really controlled by Wall Street. Thank you! I think Wall Street and The Democrats actually. I think The Democrats control Fox News Yeah... You have this theory. I have not bought into that one yet Stick around. I know that Fox News has been a little flaky on a number of things and one of the more interesting ones, and i just want to mention this at the last thing is you know we have this local talk show host here in San Francisco called Michael Savage yeah and Michael Savage he was he was the guy that was forbidden entry into the UK Yeah, he was put on a terrorist list. And none of the news media would even mention this and he harped on it in fact I think it hurt his feelings although he's kind of an nutty guy but you know Fox News and all these other right-wingers you'd think they would say hey this could happen to me or

1:23:22 As far as they were concerned, I know what they were thinking. They're thinking ha-ha this is so funny that asshole finally got something happened to him and you know it's just the way these guys are because everybody's kind of jealous of each other but nobody wanted a report on it and its actually an abomination And then one that I've been moving this story on for three weeks now. Three weeks! You're not seeing it in mainstream news, but Benjamin Netanyahu since we are talking about Israel made a surprise and covert visit to Russia

1:24:04 What's the other guy Medvedev? No, I'm yeah that guy and so and he did it on a private jet on Was it trying to think Israeli millionaire Yossi Maimon on his private jet And the way they did is they actually had the jet diverted. This is all documented They had the jet diverted It was supposedly flying to well not to russia that's for sure and then they had the land in russia and first uh... he had the prime minister netanyahu's spokesman denied it and then there was so much irrefutable proof that he actually was there this is okay well it was a secret secret meeting we want anyone know about it yeah no kidding and the assertion is that it's about the arctic sea and

1:24:51 missiles apparently that were on that you know this was supposed to be like wood or something that this thing had in cargo and it was also no wet missing was hijacked or pirates have gotten a hold of it and so the story is that the Russians were actually sending missiles and anti-cruise missile devices to Iran, and that the... what's heating up now of course is that Israel may possibly be gearing up for a strike against Iran. And there's more shit going on there that you won't hear about in the news. So you don't think Netanyahu didn't go to Russia

1:25:35 Medvedev to tell the Russian mob to take the heat off of Madoff because... Oh, dude totally possible. I like it John! I'll take that as a theory too. I'd like that one much more than The idea of global thermal nuclear war yeah, and I'm much more prefer that It makes more sense to me All right i'm gonna go study. Yeah, I'm gonna get some pipes. I've got a building site across the street Maybe I can steal some of their pipes and create my own cloud buster Yeah, Cloudbuster. We have to work on that so okay and by the way Lothian I've noticed is in Scotland near Edinburgh Ah that makes sense Okay so lots of you on Thursday. I will be in the Netherlands for the next show I'm going back briefly for just a few days picking up my daughter coming back So we're back at the end of the week but we'll bring you a show as scheduled because that's what you're paying for

1:26:28 Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in the undisclosed loft location still under threat of eminent domain removal and destruction In Gitmo Nation West San Francisco I'm Adam Curry. And from the overcast northern Silicon Valley where i am very suspicious about this weather, John C Dvorak We will talk again on Thursday right here on NO AGENDA