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00:00 Hey, Progressive Rockin' Canada, it's pretty good. I rushed, great band, I loved them. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And Sunday, October 6th, 2019, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1179, This Is No Agenda. Reading the classics and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone, Star State. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I've realized it's Avogadro, not avocado. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning!

00:37 Yeah, I got a note about that. I guess you got the same one. No, no, I never got a note. I actually was thinking, I've been mulling it over when I knew there was a joke in there when I was reading it from the spreadsheet the first time. And I know that we're and I was thinking what what is he referring to? I know what this is. I can't come up with it. And it just dawned on me this morning. So producer Dick sent in a note, Dear Mr. Curry, your resident chemist should have cut this. Yes, is indeed correct. It was a donation that someone sent in with the avocado they said. Avocado number. Yes, definition of Avogadro's number, the number 6.022 times 1023 indicating the number of atoms or molecules in a mole of any substance also called the Avogadro number.

01:23 Yeah, or constant is what most researchers say. So what can you use this for, this fine avogadro? Well, to do most chemistry, you need to work in moles. Yeah. And so you need that number so you can calculate how to use it. You need to know how much to dilute something, for example. or to get to a certain number of moles to make a, to do a chemical reaction. And so you may have to do that calculation to get to the point to add so much of something. Well this actually, it's a bear, to me it was always dreadful. It's math who gives a shit. For the reason I'm not a chemist. But this does come in handy to understand the nitrogen issue in the Netherlands which a lot of people have sent in

02:12 emails and explained it in more detail to me. This is referring to the farmers who put a massive protest together and drove all their tractors to The Hague, tying up all the highways, almost 700 miles of traffic jams, which the Dutch population seemed to pretty much agree with. Here is the issue. The Netherlands is not allowed to have more than 0.05 mole per hectare of nitrogen. And this seems to be a very low number compared to other countries.

01:23 Yeah, or constant is what most researchers say. So what can you use this for, this fine avogadro? Well, to do most chemistry, you need to work in moles. Yeah. And so you need that number so you can calculate how to use it. You need to know how much to dilute something, for example. or to get to a certain number of moles to make a, to do a chemical reaction. And so you may have to do that calculation to get to the point to add so much of something. Well this actually, it's a bear, to me it was always dreadful. It's math who gives a shit. For the reason I'm not a chemist. But this does come in handy to understand the nitrogen issue in the Netherlands which a lot of people have sent in

02:12 emails and explained it in more detail to me. This is referring to the farmers who put a massive protest together and drove all their tractors to The Hague, tying up all the highways, almost 700 miles of traffic jams, which the Dutch population seemed to pretty much agree with. Here is the issue. The Netherlands is not allowed to have more than 0.05 mole per hectare of nitrogen. And this seems to be a very low number compared to other countries.

03:00 surrounding countries but the reason they're really pissed off I'm really shortening this up. This is not presented, I'm sorry but this wasn't presented to us correctly then because I thought it was like the same. That's right I think that was my mistake or maybe a bad source on my part. The real problem is in order to combat this The governments are saying you have to cut your livestock in half. Not the actual individual livestock, but the total number of livestock has to be cut in half in order to combat this. As well as, and I think we discussed this on the previous show, the speed limit will be lowered in many parts of the country. Because that's really going to help the overall climate change situation.

03:50 Well, that'll reverse it right there. And so they're so pissed off, guess what they're gonna do? The farmers are not stopping on the 29th of October. They will be doing the same. They will be taking over Schiphol Airport. So they will be driving... Wow, it's just like Hong Kong. Yeah, they'll be... Rain with blue dye. And we'll see what happens. Good on them. Good on them. Because they're not really... They're fighting the EU and they're fighting They're fighting being being run by technocrats, bureaucrats, and unelected officials. I think people stand behind them. Well, I do.

04:37 It's, I do too. It's ACL weekend in Austin or it's actually week because it's two weekends that means... What is this? Austin City Limits. It's a very large festival. Isn't that a show that's on every Saturday on PBS? Correct. Only this is the festival version of it. So they take over Zilker Park. Big headliners and the headliners play on the first and the second weekend which I think pretty unique for festivals. So we have Childish Gambino. We have Guns N' Roses with Fat Axl and we have The Cure. The Cure on my first TV show ever, first show I ever did and they were old then. These guys in their 60s. And so who are the headliners? Well, they have three headliners.

05:29 Okay, who are they? You just heard them. Don't be a douche. What? Those are the headliners. Well, Childish Gambino, I'd say, is a... I think he's a big drawer, but a lot of people have descended upon Austin to try and relive some of those good old Guns N' Roses days, which is fun to see. But it's a mess. Traffic is a mess, people. And I'm glad we're not downtown anymore, at least. So, and that's your update from Austin, Texas. They put a country western act in there. Oh, there may be. They always have the Brothers Peterson. There's tons of acts, but these are the big ones. These are the big headliners. Well, that sounds depressing. No, I don't know if it's depressing. It's just meh. Well, I'm just expressing myself. I'm depressed. Well, then why don't you get yourself out of that funk

06:29 and take us to the Green New Deal. I know you clipped it. Are you talking about the baby? Yes! I mean, just in case... Well, before we play it, everybody's heard it. I do have the whole clip. Yeah. Let's just play the clip just to enjoy it. Okay, play the clip. Okay, so was it... Eat the babies. For those who haven't seen or heard it, it's worthy of setting up. I saw the original on C-SPAN as this was a town hall with Sandy Ocasio-Cortez

07:06 So it was in Queens, I guess, in a town hall. So people are talking about, you know, there was Alzheimer's on the menu and a couple other things. Speaking of on the menu, someone stood up and said this. We're not going to be here for much longer because of the climate crisis. We only have a few months left. I love that you support the Green Deal, but it's not get it you know get it with a fossil fuel it's not gonna solve the problem fast enough a swedish professor saying you know we can eat dead people but that's not fast enough so i think your next campaign slogan has to be this we got to start eating babies we don't have enough time there's too much co2 all of

07:48 all The babies that's a big problem just stopping having babies is not enough. We need to eat the babies. This is very serious. Please give a response. No, thank you. Thank you. Her response is genius. You have that too on this clip? AOC's response? Okay, good.

08:25 I think one of the things that's very important to us is that we need to treat the climate crisis with the urgency that it does present. Luckily, we have more than a few months. We do need to hit net zero in several years. But I think we all need to understand that there are a lot of solutions that we have and that we can pursue and that if we act in a positive way, there's space for hope. We are never beyond hope.

09:12 Sandy OC later said that she really thought this woman was having a personal crisis moment and wanted to address it in all seriousness. And I think that's great. This is a new category of, I'd call this falls under the activist category. Yeah, did anybody figure out who this woman was and yeah, what yeah acting troop she's a part of yes Apparently closely related to the LaRouche pack. Oh Yeah, that would be it. No. That's no makes sense doesn't it actually even sounds like a Linden LaRouche sure They all have a weird accent well, but just for

09:57 For a moment because there's some things that need to be discussed about the performance itself I thought the accent was very I thought you know what she was doing here with the barrettes in her hair on Both sides was a version of a somewhat older Greta You know with it she didn't have ponytails, but she had kind of the girlish look and I think the accent was Phony was kind of trying to be a bit of a Swedish accent It sounded Eastern European, the accent. It sounded more like someone trying to do it. Or maybe it was just her accent. But what surprised me is the amount of certainly right-wing, conservative, right-leaning YouTubers, etc., who also took this seriously.

09:12 Sandy OC later said that she really thought this woman was having a personal crisis moment and wanted to address it in all seriousness. And I think that's great. This is a new category of, I'd call this falls under the activist category. Yeah, did anybody figure out who this woman was and yeah, what yeah acting troop she's a part of yes Apparently closely related to the LaRouche pack. Oh Yeah, that would be it. No. That's no makes sense doesn't it actually even sounds like a Linden LaRouche sure They all have a weird accent well, but just for

09:57 For a moment because there's some things that need to be discussed about the performance itself I thought the accent was very I thought you know what she was doing here with the barrettes in her hair on Both sides was a version of a somewhat older Greta You know with it she didn't have ponytails, but she had kind of the girlish look and I think the accent was Phony was kind of trying to be a bit of a Swedish accent It sounded Eastern European, the accent. It sounded more like someone trying to do it. Or maybe it was just her accent. But what surprised me is the amount of certainly right-wing, conservative, right-leaning YouTubers, etc., who also took this seriously.

10:44 Like, oh, they've gone insane! The left has gone nuts! They really believed it! They thought that this was real! Which leads me to believe that people don't watch or read anything. They just like the soundbite. Great! Let's talk about that! What a nutjob! Whereas if anyone did stem from an actual professor who did recommend eating human flesh Yeah, she mentioned Sweden and I think that's where the gag came from of course of course I mean, that's what I would first see. What is this is it? Let's take it a step further well the To me the joke of it and in our when I was growing up in our house We didn't discuss the classics much but inevitably

11:33 There would be a point where my mom would go, you know, it was always about money in our house, you know, no money, money problems. I'll be eating dog food. That was always my mom's end of it will be eating dog food. Jay and used to be. I think it was in the, when was this? It was during the Reagan administration perhaps? No, people were eating dog food. Were people, well, were they? Well, the media, the media was playing up the poor eating dog food and sometimes cat food. Stevie Wonder even wrote about it on Songs in the Key of Life.

12:15 And so you ended up with a lot of publicity for it. I don't see with this homeless crisis, and that is a crisis. Wait, wait, you're going too far. Let me finish the thought. I don't see how if they were eating dog food in the 80s that they're not eating a lot of dog food today. You're taking it, you interrupted and they're taking it way beyond where I want it to be. You're now at the homeless. I'm still at the stupidity of this. Okay, I'm sorry. In my household, back, back, back, in my household, my mom would inevitably wind up saying, we'll be eating dog food, Jay. And there's only one classic that we discussed in our household. And it was the story of Jonathan Swift.

13:05 The story of Jonathan Swift or the story by Jonathan Swift called A Modest Proposal, which is from the 1700s. And The Modest Proposal was a joke, it was very much the troll of its time, and it was the proposal for preventing children of poor people from, what was it, Let me look it up. A modest proposal for preventing the children of poor people from being a burden or a burden to their parents or country and for making them beneficial to the public, which they spelled with CK back in the day. And it was, the idea was for the impoverished Irish to ease their economic troubles by selling their children as food to rich gentlemen and ladies.

13:54 Yeah, so it's a classic so when I heard that but people took it seriously as they did with this one Yes, yes exactly so I think there should be and it wasn't this is a Wikipedia entry to this thing I bet you there is they should if there's an entry for it on Wikipedia then they should add this to it modern-day version So I was just surprised surprised how many people were all in on it and thought that this was the nutty left Well, I like the way she played it and to the point where she's even heckling AOC when she's saying, well, it's not, we don't have, no, we have plenty of time. No, we don't. We have a couple of months. Yeah, it was fantastic. Fantastic. Well, let's stick with the Green New Deal for a second. That's a shame by the way that everybody bought into it that way. No, it's very, it's not a shame. It's telling, it's great for our analysis.

14:53 People don't read jack shit anymore. They look at a headline They look at a clip and get outraged and go for it. It's completely it's It's sad people are outraged and they don't even know if what they're out supposed to be outraged about that so Putin was asked about the abuse of children to further a economic policy, that would be the Green New Deal, and specifically Greta Thunberg. Mr. President, what did you make of Greta Thunberg? President Trump tweeted, I think, she seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. People took that to be patronizing. What did you make of Greta Thunberg at the United Nations?

15:44 Well, I'll frustrate you probably. I don't share everybody's excitement about Greta Thunberg's intervention. You know what? The fact that young people and teenagers draw everybody's attention to the acute issues of nowadays, including the environmental issues, is a good thing, and we should support them in that. But when children or teenagers are used by someone in their own interests, that only merits condemnation. Yes, condemnation. Thank you, Putin. Very good.

16:25 Actually, we never talked about the Trump thing, but I think it's worth discussing at least for a second. She seems like a very happy young woman. Yeah, I'd say that. I mean, come on, if you don't like that kind of material, it's unprecedented. It's unprecedented. He's really killing a little girl. She's 16. She's not even a little girl anymore in in Amsterdam. They have a mayor, female mayor, first female mayor ever and she's been mayor for, I don't know, a year now I guess. Femke Halsema, she comes from the Green Party and she's annoying. She's always been annoying.

17:06 She's a green party and annoying. It's redundant. Well, also, she's... I don't want to get into it, but her kid was the one that was caught by the cops with a gun breaking and entering and then it was like, oh no, it was just a movie prop. It was a disabled gun and it's just a whole... She just lied her way through it to get her kid off, who clearly was taking selfies with a gun and a houseboat that he broke into. that's been covered up. But also Amsterdam is in disarray. There is trash pickup as a problem. You know they've embarked on this like every city and oh we're not you know we're going to ban plastic and no plastic straws and you know you know the drill it's it's it's your typical green stuff. But

18:00 She has an allegiance, an alliance with another mayor and she visited this other mayor and stood two of them in front of piles and piles of trash in New York with Mayor de Blasio. Here today with someone very special, Mayor Halsema of Amsterdam in the Netherlands and mayor your city has been a leader in terms of protecting the environment. Okay, just so you know, no. Amsterdam was not a leader in terms of protecting the environment, but okay you guys discuss. Okay, I'm just gonna tell you everything she says is not true.

18:49 Well, on a smaller scale. So let's be a little bit humble about it because what you are going to do is really huge. Huge! But we took the plastic out of the city. Oh yes. We only used wooden forks, sporks as you said, this morning. You know when I went to Amsterdam not too long ago John, it was crazy. I could only use wooden sporks. I did not know that this was not happening everywhere yet. Wooden sporks. So, the... notice how she says huge.

19:37 Huge scale she did it twice. That's because the Dutch when Trump first came on the scene He's you know huge was a big thing. So he introduced the yes Yes, and it is now in the vernacular in common parlance when they say huge They there it's like an automatic trigger the Dutch go huge Very quickly we see a very simple and we're following you're doing it on a huge huge huge Oh, everybody liked it of course! It was great! There's no problem at all!

20:17 Well, I think there's a lot of support for what we're doing. People understand that we do have a problem with all the dirt. Dirt! With what it does to our ecosystem, with what it does to our health. So I think people agree that we need to change. Well, I want to thank you for being a great example of change and helping inspire us. And I just want to say to everyone out there, we have to get plastics out of our lives and everyone can be a part of it. We're today with our executive order, we're taking a big step forward. We're going to pass legislation soon to go even farther. But we have to do it in our own lives. Turn away that plastic straw. Don't use a plastic fork if you have a choice. Let's get away from it. Let's save the Earth. Mayor, thank you so much. Thank you for being a part of this. Thank you. Thank you very much. Oh, yes. Thank you very much.

21:07 Did he give her the keys to the city? Probably. It's probably plastic. It's a wooden key. It's a spork. The thing that saddens me is, and if you go back and look at the true history of the United States, and we're talking really Manhattan and New York when, I read a book about this, I have to find the title of this book, It's something the island, come to me. The Dutch were very influential. In fact a lot of the settlers that came to Manhattan in particular, the New York area, lived in Amsterdam for several years before they even set sail. And there was so, in fact the liberal kind of

22:02 you know, laissez-faire attitude of the United States, in my opinion, if I look at some of the history, not just three ships that came in with some pilgrims, there's a little more to it. That is complete Amsterdam influence, not the Netherlands, but Amsterdam influence. That's why they called it New Amsterdam. Of course, and you know, look at all the Dutch names, Haarlem, Staten Island, these are all Dutch names. But it truly was the culture of the Dutch at the time in Amsterdam that created a lot of what we consider to be American culture. And that's just, this is horrible to see. This is not even 300 years later, now we have wooden sporks, we're going backwards in time. It's very sad, in my opinion.

22:54 Sporks, you want to talk about Brexit? I got a whole bunch of clips. Yeah, I have, I can set it up with a very short one that really says nothing. So I think it'll be perfect for your barrage. Time for a quick look now at some other news. Court documents show Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson will comply with the law and ask for a Brexit extension if there's no deal within the next two weeks. But a senior government source told the BBC that the law can be interpreted in different ways. Mr. Johnson has again insisted the UK will leave the EU on October the 31st without delay.

23:30 So it seems the more I listen to the BBC, the less I understand where they're at. What? That report made zero sense. That's exactly why I played it. It's like, what am I supposed to understand now? I didn't get so delayed. Maybe, no, he'll do it. Something, what? No deal. Yes. Please, JCD, help us out. I've been listening carefully to the BBC or actually LBC mostly. And I got a couple of interesting clips and then I have the stuff about what their take is on Trump, which I thought was more interesting than Brexit itself. But there's somebody's taking it seriously because this is an official government ad, this is a UK British ad for Brexit.

24:13 Get ready for Brexit on the 31st of October. This means that travelling to the EU will change. You'll need to check online if your passport is valid for travel to Europe. If you're planning on driving, you'll need to check if you have the right documents to drive and take the keys. And make sure your travel insurance covers all your healthcare needs. To keep your trip on track, check what you need to do at gov.uk slash brexit. Get ready for Brexit on the 31st of October. Wait a minute, gov.uk slash Brexit. No, no, it wasn't really gov.uk slash Brexit. I'm just, go ahead, John. I'm just reading to see what they're talking about here. Now the other thing going on there is that Boris Johnson is still kind of the Prime Minister, but he doesn't really have the votes to be the Prime Minister. So this has become, because half of the, either fired

25:05 I think about 20 or 30 Tories got kicked out of the party for being like dicks, which is pretty much the whole party. But a number of them quit, so he doesn't have a majority of anything anymore, but nobody seems to be able to put anything together. to get rid of him and Farage tries to describe this in some detail and I think it's worth listening to this Farage on the quagmire. There have been an endless series of meetings going on inside the Palace of Westminster and around it and very little noise coming from the Lib Dems or the Labour Party, loads from Anasubi but that's a different subject. And the reason is they simply cannot agree who the interim leader should be.

25:47 because Jeremy Corbyn cannot get the support of the 21 booted-out Tories, because he's kind of seen to be a Marxist and other things, and it doesn't work, and the Lib Dems won't go with it, because the Lib Dems don't want Corbyn to be in Downing Street, and maybe not to look quite as dangerous as some thought he would be. and they just can't agree. Margaret Beckett's name's been put forward, Ken Clarke is wandering around the place doing up his tie, but he doesn't see this sort of work, and they can't agree on anybody. But time for them is running out. It's running out fast. Because here's the big problem. If you're a Remainer, here's your fear. Your fear is that Boris goes on the 17th of October, gets

26:31 one or more of the EU countries to veto extension and then Boris then comes back to the House of Commons and says right it's very simple boys and girls it's the treaty Mrs. May's treaty with a couple of tweaks or we leave with no deal now I think if Boris did that It would have catastrophic consequences for the Conservative Party in terms of division within it. But there would be a form of Brexit, not a very good one, but a form of Brexit. If you want to stop Brexit completely from happening, if you are a Romaniac,

27:06 You don't want to take that chance. So, Parliament is going to be parodied on Tuesday. If they're going to put in place an alternative Prime Minister ahead of that summit, Monday is their deadline. And as yet, they can't agree on anything or anyone. Oh my... So that's the situation. I think it's a good rundown that he gave us. Here's an idea. Why doesn't Jeremy Clarkson just run for Prime Minister? He's got the right idea and everybody loves him, except the BBC. Yeah, so I'm listening to this. There's also a funny situation that occurred we didn't hear about in the United States, but Nick Ferrari, one of the talk show guys on the LBC, London's been chatting.

27:57 Had the police commissioner and it was a woman a police commissioner of London and he's carping about this big pink yacht that was apparently dragged down the street and plopped down the middle of Oxford Circus And so he's giving her grief about this and when you listen to her try to explain the situation You really makes you wonder if there's that this country is Maybe should be run by Brussels. why it didn't get intercepted earlier is partly back to what I've just been discussing. What, you haven't got powers to intercept a pink yacht? No. A yacht that stops in the middle of Oxford Circus, the old Bill hasn't got the power to say, oy, move that yacht on. Oy! There is not specific legislation that says you can not... So I could talk with yachts this afternoon and I'm not going to get flicked. There is, of course, legislation about highway obstruction. Yes. Of course there is.

29:12 But why wasn't that exercise, Commissioner? Because there is also in the early stages, absolutely enshrined in law, a strong... Wait, wait, wait. She's not gonna say freedom of speech is she? Because then I'll need to sit down. Do I need my chair? Did you notice, back it up just a little bit, did you notice that she does this the same thing Obama's the one that started doing this and we've seen other candidates do it and she just did it which is you're talking away and now it's really important so I kind of changed the way I say it. It's not who you are! This afternoon and I'm not going to get flicked. There is of course legislation about highway obstruction. Yes. Of course there is. But why wasn't that exercised, Commissioner? Because there is also in the early stages, absolutely enshrined in law, a strong, you know, law which says that we have to allow

30:12 protest in a democracy which causes a reasonable, you won't think it was reasonable to put a pink boat, amount of disruption. Did they have a license? Do you? I don't but I can tell you that if we had tried to intercept the pink boat we wouldn't have had the power to do so nor as soon as it was on the highway like that is there a specific piece of legislation that says you can take street furniture away like that. And so these are the kinds of things we need to look at. Of course they are. Oh brother. That's so typical. So typical of the Brits having lived there. It's like, I mean even the whole convo. I get as ridiculous of a pink belt as yours. Yeah. Break. So I'm listening to this, to this network and I caught one of the news, uh,

31:05 segments, the actual news, this guy Simon Marks is their guy. And there's, I got four short clips, well one of them's long, looks like, but the rest of them are pretty short. This is Simon Marks reporting on Trump and what's going on over here from the British perspective. President Trump, sorry. Wait, wait, we've talked about this before, which is the The fact that they just parrot the worst of our mainstream media. Oh yeah, no, they wake up in the morning. They look at the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CNN and just rewrite it. We're not going to do any investigation. They've got to add a little flair to it. There are some gems, not in this first clip, but especially in this Texas clip. Play this and we'll get into it. President Trump yesterday, as you know, in the grounds of the White House,

31:59 broke the law. He called on two countries, Ukraine and China to interfere in America's 2020 presidential election. But... Let's just stop. Is that really against the law? He broke the law and asked them to interfere. He didn't talk about how they handled China. Will you interfere in the election, please? I mean, this is the way it's being reported. Yeah, we'll get into that. The law that was broken, according to this guy, is the Federal Election Committee, one of these federal laws for, you know, asking for help, for help, assistance, yeah, whatever.

32:40 digging up dirt on his likely opponent Joe Biden, the former vice president of the United States and his son Hunter who used to do business in both Ukraine and China and today President Trump returns to the lawn of the White House to justify what the vast majority of observers here in Washington believe is an attempt by the president to break federal election law, which prohibits him from soliciting support of any kind or any value from a foreign government. Here's what Donald Trump had to say today. I don't care about Biden's campaign, but I do care about corruption.

33:20 His campaign, that's up to him. Politics, that's up to them. I don't care about politics. Politics, as I think I made clear, and yesterday somebody asked me a question and I gave an answer, but always in the form of corruption. What I want to do, and I think I have an obligation to do it, probably a duty to do it, Corruption, we are looking for corruption. Multiple times President Trump at that appearance insisted that there was a distinction between digging up political dirt on Joe Biden, Joe Biden and going after corruption. That strains credulity, not my opinion but the opinion of Mitt Romney, a former Republican presidential candidate who took

34:01 to Twitter a short while ago to describe the president's actions as wrong and appalling. When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China's investigation, wrote Senator Romney, is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated. Senator Romney of course is one of those Republicans who may well end up determining the fate of the Donald Trump presidency because if President Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives there will then be a trial in the US Senate where Republicans like Senator Romney are in the majority. They will all have to decide are they going to vote or

34:47 to keep Donald Trump in power or are they going to convict him of high crimes and misdemeanors against the American Constitution? The vast majority of Republicans in the Senate are remaining silent at the moment and that's not necessarily good news for President Trump who must surely crave voices supporting him from within his own party. Yeah, that's taking the show prep from the US mainstream media. Boom. He's got it. Nailed it. He's got to pump it up a little bit. They're not just puppets reading from the script. No, please. He's got some of his own opinions here. Let's go to Report on Trump 2.

35:31 to. Some senators are speaking but very uncomfortably. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, you will remember him excoriated by Donald Trump as little Marco during the 2016 presidential election campaign, was asked if he really thought that it was apt for the President of the United States to be inviting China to investigate Joe Biden. I don't know if that's a real request or him just needling the press knowing that you guys were gonna get outraged by it. He's pretty good at getting everybody fired up and he's been doing that for a while and the media responded right on task. Blaming the media, Senator Rubio looked as miserable as he sounded in that clip. Wow!

36:15 Nice editorial. I saw the clip. He didn't look any different than he ever looks and he didn't sound any different than he ever sounded. But let's just take a look at what's happening when he says this. He's saying, you know, the media jumped on it on cue. He's saying that to the media. Yeah, including this guy. Let's hear that last bit again. That was good. Right on task. Blaming the media, Senator Rubio looked as miserable as he sounded in that clip. Wow. Nice one. LBC. Good to go. So this guy's a liar. So let's go on to the one. I think this is the

36:56 This is the shortest one, but it's the biggest whopper, number three. Another Republican is speaking out against the president, Congressman Will Hurd of Texas. I think it's terrible. It's something that I wouldn't have done. And I can go two days, I think two days before that, wishing China congratulations on 70 years of communism via a tweet is not something I would do either. China is an adversary. Oh, really? That's why they all resigned. Okay. I'm sure some of them did.

37:46 So I didn't realize, according to him, Texas is furious. Texas... We're outraged, I tell you. ...is furious at Trump for his behavior. Yes! Orange man bad. We hate him. It's very frightening. We have to retire. This is, this, I mean, this isn't even the New York Times. This is MSNBC they're translating here. Yeah. That's quite impressive, actually. So the Texans are... they hate Trump. I didn't realize Texas hated Trump. Oh, we hate that guy. And these guys would have faced a drubbing. You know, whenever I'm faced with a drubbing, I retire. That's the Texas way, my friend.

38:30 It's the Texas way. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap this idiot. More damaging, more damaging issues for the president of the United States. The release of texts overnight between three American ambassadors operating in the vicinity of Ukraine. It is apparent that at least one of them raised questions about whether President Trump was insisting on a quid pro quo. asking the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Joe Biden in exchange for withheld military assistance and also a withheld invitation for President Zelensky to visit the White House. For President Trump,

39:09 The straits here are becoming more treacherous and the Democrats are becoming increasingly emboldened as their impeachment inquiry, Andrew, gets underway. Alright, that's LBC's US correspondent Simon Marks in the latest dramatic twist. in the affair over Joe Biden. I wonder still if if Trump has factored all this in because I'm sure I saw polls recently which showed Biden support was going down because all of this activity has it focused attention on his son and Biden's business activities and of course if Trump wanted to smear him in

39:48 It seems to be working, but whether he's damaging himself more in the process, who knows? Oh brother. Alright, I would like to make a case for our stance on this. With some support from some clips, etc. Because we saw very early on, it was only three shows ago, it seems like, oh my god. I mean, we've forgotten all about Kavanaugh, we forgot about Epstein, everything is off the radar, it's all about this. And, in fact, let me read this. I got a note from someone who is clearly... Man overboard! And after our previous show, we discussed this impeachment bullcrap. And I just want to share that so that we can understand where some people are coming from. This person is a listener and I think maybe even a producer donor. You two disgust me on the No Agenda podcast.

39:09 The straits here are becoming more treacherous and the Democrats are becoming increasingly emboldened as their impeachment inquiry, Andrew, gets underway. Alright, that's LBC's US correspondent Simon Marks in the latest dramatic twist. in the affair over Joe Biden. I wonder still if if Trump has factored all this in because I'm sure I saw polls recently which showed Biden support was going down because all of this activity has it focused attention on his son and Biden's business activities and of course if Trump wanted to smear him in

39:48 It seems to be working, but whether he's damaging himself more in the process, who knows? Oh brother. Alright, I would like to make a case for our stance on this. With some support from some clips, etc. Because we saw very early on, it was only three shows ago, it seems like, oh my god. I mean, we've forgotten all about Kavanaugh, we forgot about Epstein, everything is off the radar, it's all about this. And, in fact, let me read this. I got a note from someone who is clearly... Man overboard! And after our previous show, we discussed this impeachment bullcrap. And I just want to share that so that we can understand where some people are coming from. This person is a listener and I think maybe even a producer donor. You two disgust me on the No Agenda podcast.

40:52 Whenever you talk about Trump, you guys ALWAYS, all caps, defend him. No matter how disgustingly corrupt and criminal his behaviors are. You are diehard Republicans and it shows! Now that is quite insulting actually, someone calls us Republicans, but okay. It's clear there is no low that Trump could stoop to that you guys wouldn't be supportive of and praise. I've come to the conclusion that you are both hardcore Trumpers and I will no longer be listening to this podcast. I stand for country and moral values over party and when any president is breaking the law I support impeachment.

41:33 The fact that you too can't see past your crazy loyalty to party disturbs me. How can you let a president exhibit criminal behaviors and claim that you love your country? So I took this to heart. decided to explain what is happening. Oh brother. For there is of course no criminal behavior and the thing the mistake that people on Twitter make is they go back and forth with the what the liberals call whataboutism. They're absolutely correct about that. Say well but they got this from Ukraine on Trump and Christopher Steele was a foreign agent he did this on Trump. Of course

42:16 And even the people yelling, although this person I'm not too sure, people yelling this, they kind of know that, but that's not really what impeachment is about. Impeachment, when we talk of high crimes and misdemeanor, can really be determined. Misdemeanor by itself is a fantastic term, and you can use it for any amount of things. I could even make a case that being unpresidential could be shown to be misdemeanor. But the trick to impeachment is you have to get the entire country behind it. Otherwise, it'll just be useless. I think everyone at this point knows House of Representatives files the articles of impeachment. The Senate then is the judge and jury with the Supreme Court justice, the head justice, the big Juana, big Kahuna presiding over a real, it's like a court drama really, and you have real lawyers and prosecutors in the Senate. They are the judge and jury.

43:13 And you need to convince them, and so we've heard already, well, you know, there's 35 Republicans. If they can vote in secret, then we'll get them out. 75% need to be convinced. Yes, yes. But that doesn't matter. The concept that is being played here, for whatever reason, maybe there's thousands of sealed indictments, everybody's running scared, they got to do whatever they can. I don't know. I'll believe it when I see it. But when I even saw the Drudge report, and a buddy of mine in Holland, Robert Jensen, called me up. He said, why is Drudge turning on Trump?

43:50 I said this is the machine is in full gear. The machine is going 100%. Matt Drudge is a part of the machine. I'm sure he's part of some intelligence somewhere in his background. I mean, have we ever doubted this? Of course not. So the machine is trying to put into the people the feeling that this president has to go. In fact, George Stephanopoulos of ABC's This Week, a Clinton insider and operative still, interviewed the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi who would be the one to actually call for a vote to file for the articles of impeachment, which means it would be real. This is all just talk. Until they actually vote on it, it's nothing. But listen to her own words. In both the Nixon and the Clinton cases, the House passed a formal resolution to set up the inquiry. Why not take that step right now? We could. We don't have to, but we could. You know who was most afraid of that vote coming up?

44:48 The Republicans, because they're going to have to decide. Wouldn't that make the process even more airtight? No, it's not necessary. We feel that we're on very firm ground as we go forward and we may go to that place as we go, just because it's a Republican talking point, but it's not necessary. Okay, so what she just said there is well, we're not really doing a real impeachment We're just doing an inquiry unless I misheard that so it's just generally accepted. Oh, we don't really need this Let's just get everyone talking about it That's what she's going for need to push this and and how do we tell people this we have to continually hammer the message?

45:28 And we are proceeding to get further evidence as we go forward. Evidence? This doesn't hinge on whether Mitch McConnell has the guts to really do what the Constitution requires or what the impact is in the election. But I will say this, having said all of that, separate from that, the re-election of Donald Trump would do irreparable damage to the United States. We have some serious repair and healing to do in our country for what he's done so far. I'm not sure that two terms, it might be irreparable. So you can see she wants to take it step by step. These two terms might be irreparable. That could ruin the country. And here's Stephanopoulos talking with the ABC crew after this interview. You can see she wants to take it step by step but she is completely committed to this right now. That's what's going to lead to a real showdown whether it's weeks or months, it's coming. But that last statement from her is quite strong. Very strong. Oh, very strong. John, did you hear that last statement from her?

46:25 It was so strong I can't remember it irreparable damage if he has a second term. What proof does she have of that? No, stop! Forget the proof! It's not about the proof. The whole idea is to put into your head... Look, like we just discussed earlier, even the journalists, they're not reading the articles, they're reading headlines, they're listening to soundbites. No, the reason I asked the question is because that's the question if I was stepping up. Oh, no, please. If you play more of the clip, I bet you he does. No, I bet you he doesn't because I watched the whole interview. But again...

47:06 No one actually goes back to the transcript. Most people on television, including, well, Nancy Pelosi herself, when they talk about the transcript and what the president said and what... or what the transcript is. I don't know what who said what. What the transcript read. That they're all basing this off of. Even she denies English truth! with, you know, made stuff up, made it sound like a Mafia Don movie and he got criticized and then he said, oh no, it's a parody. Schiff, the head of the Intelligence Committee, actually said it's a parody. Nancy, I guess, forgot this. I know you support Chairman Schiff, but was it right for him to have that dramatic interpretation of the President's transfer of the phone call at the hearing last week? I want the American people to know what that phone call was about.

48:06 I want them to hear it. So yeah, it's fair. It's sad. But it's using the president's own words. So if he's... Well, those weren't the president's words. It was an interpretation of the president's words. They're saying he made this up. He did not make it up. This is the leader of the House of Representatives. Oh my God, you get clip of the day for that catch. Let's finish it up because she literally says no he didn't make it up. Where is she coming from? They gotta get rid of this woman. And I have to give Stephanopoulos some props here because he actually said no, those weren't his words. Well those weren't the president's words. It was an interpretation of the president's words. They're saying he made this up. He did not make it up. And look, I'm going to tell you something.

48:51 When I took the oath... Oh, that's her tell? I've now decided? When she's about... I want to tell you something. Well, it's always a look and then I want to tell you something. That's her tell. It was an interpretation of the president's words. They're saying he made this up. He did not make it up. And, and... Look, I'm going to tell you something. When I took the oath of office to support and defend the Constitution, as my colleagues have done as well, I did not say I will do this as long as the Republicans can understand the Constitution. So the fact that their loyalty is to Trump and not to the Constitution is not going to slow down or impair our ability to keep the Republic. Okay, so blah blah blah blah.

49:31 Whatever she said, but she's full of it because it's not exactly what was in the transcript at all It's not what shift said it's almost as if she didn't read it, but that's not that's beyond the point It's not about what's true or not the idea is to get the entire machine The machine is the m5m the machine is the social media and it's worldwide. It's worldwide That's why you're hearing the same copies everywhere. Look you just played from LBC and And that is the plan. And some people take it rather far. Rachel Maddow is a fairly successful podcaster, a very successful television host, and she is a strong leader for people who love

50:16 This type of thinking about getting rid of the president, but she got sucked into a conspiracy theory which was just beautiful I wanted y'all to hear it because you'll be hearing more of it It actually contains my favorite bit about the secret vote if the senators could vote in secret Then he would definitely be impeached and kicked out Yeah, that's the way we like democracy vote in secret. This is all good now. I So Rachel Maddow is promoting her new book called Blowout, which I'd like to read because it's about pipelines. Every appearance she's done about this book has not been about the book at all. They show the cover, all right we'll talk about that later and they never do. They just promote. Don't talk about what's in the book. They all want to talk about Trump and the impeachment and she is a form of authority. So she's on The View.

51:01 with the ladies of The View and they just roll out a doozy. I think that's likely. I mean, but you know, that's sort of the way it works. We've only ever had two presidents impeached, one in the 1860s, one in the 1990s, and in both cases, this is a very interesting way of answering the question. Instead of saying yeah, Bill Clinton was impeached. She just does some dates so we don't really think about the you know, it's like two guys I would like a whole guy ago. Well a long time something back and then who knows I think that's likely You know, that's sort of the way it works We've only ever had two presidents impeached one in the 1860s one in the 1990s and in both cases They were impeached in the house and then the Senate didn't throw him out. That's sort of the way we've done it it doesn't mean that you shouldn't if

52:00 If the Constitution requires you, and if the country's honor requires you to impeach somebody, I feel... Notice, the country's honor. Not really the law or Constitution, it's the honor. And that's what they're talking about. And for that, from their perspective, I say, okay, I get it. And that's what they're going after for the honor. Let's say he's impeached and convicted, right? Let's just say because you only need, let's say 20 Republican senators to flip it. I think you quoted something that said maybe 35 Republicans undercover. That was Jeff Flake. Jeff Flake or William- That was secretly William. Yeah, it was a secret vote. So let's say that happens.

52:56 She is a lawyer, a lawyer saying, oh yeah, so let's just say that happens. She's just like, that will happen. Like we'll have a secret vote for impeachment in the Senate. This is the resident lawyer of the show. Jeff Flake. He said that was secretly. Yeah, it was a secret vote. So let's say that happens. It looks like, and then Vice President Pence would become President Pence. But it looks like Vice President Pence knew about this phone call with the Ukrainian president because he had an aide that was on the call. However, he seems to deny that he knew Trump was going after the Bidens. But that explanation seems a little fishy. Yeah. Right? Could he be in as much trouble?

53:43 This is the sort of new reporting from the Washington Post, which is that Pence basically did it too. That Pence, as soon as Trump had this call with Zelensky, went over to talk to Zelensky in person to say, you're not getting any military aid and we need you to do those investigations. And the whole defense, I mean, that's Pence. the Now I didn't know when I was telling him to do these investigations that it was necessarily about Biden. But the president had already had this Biden discussion with Ukraine. Pence's top aide was on it. He'd been given the transcript at least twice. He'd been given it as part of his briefing materials before that. So the whole idea that he didn't know seems really flimsy. And if he gets impeached too... Then it's Nancy Pelosi, President Nancy Pelosi. President Pelosi! This is how nuts it's become.

54:48 I, we talked about this already. Yeah, we talked about it after the show, actually. We don't think we talked about it on... About the lip joes? Yeah, I don't think we talked about it on the show. Which is the danger of talking after the show. It's a danger, we shouldn't do that. But I will say this, a couple of weeks ago the LibJos started going back and forth at each other. And this was their scenario that they picked up from somewhere. From The View! That's where all intelligent journalists get their scoops. This is weeks ago before they did this. But the point is that everyone's reading from the same playbook.

55:26 Yeah, but what's the playbook? The playbook is... No, it's not a single playbook. The playbook is shut up, he's nuts, misdemeanor, impeach him, everybody agrees, everybody's on. It's buffaloing, it's steamrolling. Even Biden And listen. How is your role as vice president in charge of policy in Ukraine, in your son's job in Ukraine? How is that not a conflict of interest? It's not a conflict of interest. There's been no indication of any conflict of interest from Ukraine or anywhere else. Period. I'm not going to respond to that. Let's focus on the problem. Focus on this man, what he's doing that no president has ever done.

56:07 No present. Focus on this man. Don't look over here. Focus on the man. No presents ever done. Whatever. Focus on him. That's the game. That's the game, ladies and gentlemen. That's all that it's about. That's what we talk about. But unfortunately, I feel bad that it put some of our former listeners, man overboard, man, whoever that was. They seem to have bought into the whole thing. It's futile. Yeah, of course. That's why we're doing a podcast.

56:43 But that is the system and it's a big, big, big system and it's been running that way for a long time. It's very possible Trump may get impeached. I don't know. Anything could happen. I know. And he may get kicked out but that's neither here nor there. The fact that this is happening the way it's happening which can happen to any president and any party shows you that our system has become shit. It's just shit with the media and there's no way, no way that it can be fixed. We've talked about the long-term scheme which is to get Trump ousted after the first term using any mechanism they can and they just try everything they can try but it works so well in the midterms so the Democrats could get back the house that they're not gonna let up on this because this is their only way of winning votes.

57:39 There's no ideas and that this is why they're gonna lose again to Trump because all they're doing is focusing on Trump. You can't win by hating the other the opponent. My, you vote for me because I hate the other guy. So a troll in the troll room says they, I guess the troll means the Republicans, had eight years to impeach Obama. Why didn't they? Because they didn't, they couldn't get the people on board. The people loved Obama despite what he was doing. Ultimately, it's the people who force the representatives to do it. Without that buy-in, they'll never do it. It's not going to happen. So they're trying the Jedi mind control tricks, trying to just wash us with nastiness from television, radio, and social media. That's the plan. That's the whole plan. Do they think that that works? I don't know.

58:34 Well, you actually have gone on about this saying you do know and that is that the media's power over the public has been screwed up by the internet. Yes, I don't know if it's enough though. You made a long speech about it, I think two episodes ago, if not the last time. That still holds true, but I don't know when I see this note from our man overboard, I start to question it. It's one weak-minded individual. Listen, I don't care. Either way it's good for the show. But so I'll give you an example of how the right is countering this. Because of course we've dug up some shit on Pelosi and good shit too about her son Paul, who I didn't even know she had a kid named Paul. Did you, John? No. Okay. Well, yes.

59:30 Paul, and he has a very interesting job. It is science, science, science, and science. Breaking our crippling addiction to oil, they are developing desirable, efficient cars that get more than 100 miles per gallon. My son Paul, who is here with me, tells me that that is part of the course and not to be overwhelmed by that prospect that would be considered the normal. We're having a very exciting day here in Washington DC. A lot of focus on innovation and technology to help solve a lot of the world's energy crisis. Both oil spills, which we'll be participating in, cars and efficiency, which is represented today, and space and different adventures and using technology from space to make human conditions better here. So Paul is a management at

1:00:25 or was at the time of this speech at Viscoil Group, which he was an executive at a gas and oil company, which is okay. You know, it's like, oh well, I guess, I mean, you know, but oh, he was also in Ukraine! Oh no, and they interviewed him on TV! Hello, I'm Alex Gupta with UATV. Today I'm speaking with Paul Pelosi Jr. He is a San Francisco-based investor and corporate finance expert and also happens to be the son of Nancy Pelosi, the minority leader of the United States House of Representatives. Hello Mr. Pelosi, welcome to UATV. Thank you Alex, pleasure to be here. What brings you to Kiev? Now, what do you think he was in Kiev for, Jean-Claude?

1:01:08 To me with some oil executives, probably that same corrupt company that Biden got involved with. Was that the answer you would give on television if you were there? Do I have to ask it in the form of a question? Yes, if you want the category for the win. Kiev is a wonderful time of year. I'm here with the Corporate Governance Initiative and today we're here to talk about soccer. We recently got an endorsement from the World Sports Alliance and we've spoken with the Ukrainian government about collaboration for soccer for young people. You know, Ukraine's got a great history in soccer and we hope to share in that tradition going forward. First of all, it's a wonderful time of year in Kiev. I love being in Kiev in the springtime. The blossoms are so great after that Chernobyl deal. And I'm here to talk about soccer. Uh-huh. So you run a corporate governance business and you're here in Ukraine speaking with representatives from the government, investment bankers discussing certain things related to soccer.

1:02:06 Exactly. The Corporate Governance Initiative, what we do is we work with people to kind of bring people together, a spirit of cooperation. Sometimes religion and politics can get tricky, but sports is an area where people seem to have a good, competitive, healthy relationship. And so it's a pleasure to be here and to meet the people of Ukraine and to meet the young kids that are very enthusiastic about their athletic futures. So now watch that be thrown about on Fox News and then Nancy is, she's a hypocrite and it's just gonna go on and on and on and it'll spin right back to Trump. It'll just, it's just gonna go on for another year.

1:02:56 Well, the way I see it, they should either impeach... I beseech you must impeach! I beseech? Yeah. Well, there's a... I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. With that, it's time for me to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in corporate governance, John C. Dvorak! Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also all the morning... Hold on. In the morning to all boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, the dames and knights out there. And the subs in the water, did I say that? Yeah, you did now.

1:03:35 Well in the morning to the trolls in the troll room good to see y'all and some overboard some trolling hard and some just here for the fun and that is available to you every single day 24 hours there's always something going on with the with the stream I mean it could be up or down but when it's up just kidding we had a problem earlier this morning when it's up There's always some great shows, live shows as well, and you can interact live, troll the hosts as they're speaking. It's fun to do. NoagendaStream.com. Also a big in the morning to NetNed, who we looked it up, I think NetNed has, didn't he have one or two art selections in the past? He did a few, he has done art in the past. You thought he did some. I don't know, I mean, I don't know that he did anything that was picked.

1:04:26 I think he's a virgin. Well, we've popped his album art, Charity Cherry in this case, as we selected his art for episode 1178. The title of that was Snakes and Spikes, and it was the Dutch farmers on their tractors blocking the highway, and they were proudly displaying their No Agenda podcast banners, as one does during a protest. And we're very happy that he did that. It was a very nice piece. There were other good pieces to look at as well. And you can... It was actually a hard show to do. It was a hard one to do, that particular episode. Why was it? What was the problem? I don't remember. Because everything was almost good. Yeah. Well, it's also difficult. You're selecting someone's creative work. I feel like an art judge. Yeah, you are. But I'm not really qualified.

1:05:20 I don't think. That's bull crap, you have no idea. Oh, really? Thank you. Makes me feel that much better. I know what gen- You're as qualified as any art judge there is. Oh, there's that. You look at a lot of art. And you've been doing it for 10 years? You're a judge. And you've been judging it? You're a judge. You have 10 years experience. What other art judges do you know that have that? County fair judges don't have that much experience usually. Have you ever gone to a county fair and seen some of the picks they make? Alright, alright, you've convinced me. I'll return Christie's call. I promise. About time. NoahGenderArtGenerator.com is where you can see all of the artwork and also you can upload your own and participate in this grand experiment because this is our value for value system. We have a network of people, everybody puts something in, they get out of it what they want to get out and if not then they don't put anything back in. Sometimes it's a yin-yang. And in my opinion if you don't put anything in and you hate the show, writing those nasty notes is great.

1:14:07 And he's from Yarmouth, Maine. I think you mentioned that. Can I please take the name sir? Hashtag blessed if available and I'd like cavity To be added to the roundtable refreshments. And can you play the 2030 omnipocalypse and it's real jingles Why did I mean I'd see an anonymous dude named Ben in his email you see something different I think we should err on the side. I know that was confused because they had the wrong email open. Ah, okay. I So, I mean, just two in a row. Fantastic. Thank you so much, anonymous dude named Ben. Yes, and I'm going to order the kava tea for you right away. And as far as I know, that name is available. It's real. It's real. It's real. You've got karma.

1:15:05 Neil Gardner comes in next, we're four, five, six, seven, and he actually sent in an email, which I have in front of me. I printed it out, old school. And it's got a bunch of, big fan of both you guys. Adam from Headbangers Ball and the early MTV days, then Mevio. There's a pod show in the middle. And John from PC Magazine and Cranky Geeks. I always save Insight Track in your editorials to read last. They were the best. Okay, so I've listened for a long time and never contributed. Value for Value isn't covered with this donation, so more will follow. I only have one beef. I finally got into D-Star to participate in the ham takeover. I found that it's moving to All-Star and Echo Link.

1:15:58 I'm a CW and a data guy over HF anyway. Like Dvorak, I keep my HT in the glove box. And then he has his, uh, request is China is asshole. Keep it up guys. 73's Neil to NG5NG. Can I add some content to the donation segment and talk about this for a moment? I would hope you would. Okay. So, thank you very much above all for your support of the show. I want to make it I actually want to make a pitch for ham radio and I'll do that here in the donation segment since it's never that long Yes, so we've set up

1:16:38 an all-star node actually K9MLS Mike in Minneapolis and his and Paul KB9TYC I think And they sent it to me and it's a the whole thing is like almost turnkey all I do is plug it in configure some ports on the router and up it goes and And now, anywhere in the world, people can connect their own radios and repeaters or just whatever, something old you have laying around to each other and you create this

1:17:16 Large network where if you hit the mic and you start talking it'll go out and this could be in Australia could be in the Netherlands it can be East Coast West Coast everywhere and That is now ready to go and and actually this is ham radio 2.0 and I think that's the part that I wanted to mention for a second The old ham radio that we know of is is, you know, sounds like Bruce's parents would say. We've played this a million times. Now here we have Ham Radio, guys. Ham Radio is the public service network of Last Resort. When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are gonna save the world, right? Right.

1:18:00 But no, that's the old ham radio, now it's ham radio 2.0. What we're talking about here is actually a very sophisticated voice switching network. It's based on Asterix, which is used in the largest corporations in the world. It really is a voice network. of great quality and it's ad hoc, no one controls it. You can really connect anywhere you want and make your own bubbles of networks. But more importantly, when people say, oh, Ham Radio, bunch of weird guys. It's no weirder than people yelling at people they don't know on Twitter. It's not any weirder than that. Think of the weirdness of people going on Twitter and yelling at each other. They don't even know who they are.

1:18:51 This is like Twitter, but with civility. It's so civil you actually have to take a test to join the club. We don't have pronouns. You identify by your call sign. There's no outrage. And because it's not full duplex in most cases, you're talking over someone else talks, it forces some people to do something incredibly strange. to listen to the other person. It's very interesting. In fact, I would tell you please get your sons and daughters into this particular, I'll call it a hobby, whatever you want. If you want to call Twitter a hobby, we'll call this a hobby. Tell them I'll give you all the stuff you need to become a member of this network. There's also respect.

1:19:38 There's no nastiness towards women or women towards men. You took the test, you got the ticket, you belong in the club. We'll talk with you. It's like aviation where people are respectful to each other, otherwise people get hurt in aviation. And this is digital. These are Raspberry Pis, Arduinos, satellites. I mean, there's interesting things going on and the only problem is this stigma that it's a bunch of old dudes who are talking about how well you receive me. And while that is certainly true, the HAM 2.0 is people having nice fun conversations with each other. It's very much like No Agenda meetups and it's in with complete civility.

1:20:23 So if you want to learn more about this, if you want to connect and you can do it now, in fact if you don't have a license you can even listen to a live stream of what the No Agenda hams are doing. Go to k5acc.com and it'll show you how to connect. If you have a $25 Chinese radio you can become a part of this. That's all that it takes. And your license which is $10 and 60 questions you have to get 40 right. Yeah, everyone's like who's gonna go configure John's radio to get on this like no no one's raising their hand believe me so It's I believe that there's a big future for this new ham radio if we can just ignore the old

1:21:10 Trappings of hey, but how you doing? Yeah great. I receive you where I'm over here. Well good signal No, this is you know It's like it's like an IRC chat room and it's except it's on voice and you're forced to listen and you might learn something interesting and no agenda is going to lead the way of ham 2.0 as far as I'm concerned K5 a CC comm to learn more there you go You always learn something in the donation segment. Yeah, that's why people always skip it. And I'm going to give Neil his China is asshole and a little karma for him. You've got karma. By the way, you can also get on Echo Link and you can use apps and all kinds of things. So there's tons of ways. It's all at that website. Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt.

1:34:34 all about hams, I guess. Go propagate! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order. Shut up, slave. Well, she's back. Did you hear that? It sounded like she's back. There's a funny article I didn't, there's no clips of it, but Willie Brown, one of the major, major players in California. In Kamala's life, yes. Well, that too, but in California politics,

1:35:18 Speaker of the House, Mayor of San Francisco, he's very powerful. He came out with a, not an editorial, apparently they'd given him a column in the San Francisco Chronicle where he's promoting Hillary. Really, not Camelot. I don't see why we run anybody but Hillary. She's got the most brand recognition. She should have won the last... pretty much my essay, which is unrelated to Pat McGuinney. Pretty much my essay going on and on and on about it, never mentioning Camelot, but he thought that Biden's fading and Bernie can't win and Warren is divisive. This is interesting. Last night,

1:35:59 And I stayed up late for it, Saturday Night Live, which luckily does come on earlier in our time zone at 10.30. And I really wanted to watch for two reasons. One is Phoebe, the woman from Fleabag, was hosting and I think she's pretty funny. But also Taylor Swift was the musical artist and I am... You introduced me to Taylor Swift in the very beginning of this show and I thank you for that. Although we did make some fun of her. You always liked her. And her performance last night, she's just fantastic. She's a great performer. She is, in fact, on my list of favorite celebrity women, she is nudging Jennifer Aniston out of my favorite spot. I think Team Jen is hurting because of this.

1:36:48 Anyway. Well, Jen's a local girl for you. Uh, yeah, she's from Dallas, isn't she? Originally? No, Austin. Austin. Really? No. Yeah, I met her in the Austin airport once. Jennifer Aniston is from Austin? No. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. She's from Austin, and I met her at the airport, and she's flying into somewhere or other, and we both were sitting, I actually sat across from her too so I could chat with her a little bit, wearing sweatpants. I didn't recognize her. She was standing right next to me at the ticket counter, I looked over and I said, she looks familiar. She was born in 1969 in the Los Angeles neighborhood of Sherman Oaks.

1:37:30 Okay, not even close to Austin. She lives. He has a place in Austin. That's what I was told by the locals I Think I would know all right well. I'll look into it. You've made mistakes before So have you my friend? Yeah? I know that's what you like to condemn me for so let's go to one of these mistakes I want to go to this one. This is a where you just jump all over me for making just the mildest of commentaries and then you get condescending, you become patronizing, and then you insult me. Because of some just minor thing I said. Play the clip. Challenge won. Oh, God. No wonder I knew something was wrong with you today. Like what is what is what is up Joe's Joe? Well, there you go. John's butt. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. Episode 1174. So when you hear somebody say we're dependent on Saudi oil. Yeah. Who's who's it's bull crap. Where's he getting his check from is the first question.

1:38:35 So it spiked up and then it did ramp down as fast as it spiked up pretty much and it did with a net result of nothing. Exactly. The nothing burger, as you like to say. No, I don't say that. Screw you, Dvorak. I've never... No, find it. Bullshit. I've never said nothing burger. Recently, what you want? Yeah, we've done two shows. Oh, I'll give you four shows. Find it. Make it six. Eight. Eight. Find it. And then we'll count the times you go, so uh... You're supposed to stop me from doing that. It's impossible. This is you. And it's the imperfections that make you perfect. Alright, in the last eight episodes, I presume someone did some work for you and went, hey, I can, you can finally put that curry in its place. You should be apologizing.

1:39:28 instead of condemning me for doing what you challenged me to do. You challenged me. You gotta find it to prove it. Five shows earlier. Oh my goodness! Epstein has a ranch in New Mexico, the Zorro Ranch. Okay, this is actually a good point, because just go on and I'm going to confirm what you're saying. We don't no one killed him. He hung himself the camera was broken Two cameras two cameras are broken some of the footage was unusable. What is your problem? The guards were asleep. It's a big nothing burger. That's nothing to see Yeah, no, we're stupid John I cannot tell you how sorry I am yeah, okay, that's insincere, but I'll take it now I do have two ISOs for consideration and

1:40:32 And by the way, you should have remembered, it was only five shows earlier that you said nothing burger and you had said it before. That's one of the reasons it's stuck in my brain. You don't say it much, but I'm shocked that you would condemn me for pointing this out and I only did it casually. But let's listen to the challenge ISO. It's a big nothing burger. Nom nom nom nom nom. Yes, and then the other one which is the competitor you can pick up either one This one actually may be better, but it may be not eating babies Eating babies we got to start eating babies. I think that one's better although I kind of like the This is the one that I kind of like

1:41:23 But I don't know. Well, anyway, yes, you're right. I feel really bad about this, especially since on the last show I told everybody how much I wanted Hillary Clinton to come back in the race just for you because you've held on to it. But I understand that my oversight completely taints Taints my good feelings towards you and I'm sorry you took it that way. I know I said taint. I know I put taint in there. All right, you got me. Which of course is just again you just... No, no, I'm... What do you want me to say? I was in the middle of setting up a clip and now and all of a sudden I'm being excoriated.

1:42:09 Alright, and rightfully so. I just wanted to point out, you have said nothing, Berger. Yes, you're correct. And you didn't do it ironically. You actually threw it in there as a... And I feel embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. You're right. I I cannot believe that I use the term nothing burger the way Van Jones launched it I feel like a heel and and now that I hear that back I'm embarrassed by that and I'm embarrassed that I that I That I was so adamant that I would never use I feel the shame could everyone please chant shame because I feel bad shame Shame shame Still said taint though

1:42:48 Anyway, Jennifer Aniston has a place in Austin apparently. I have no reason to not believe it, other than living here for nine years never heard it. Well, there's a lot of famous people live in Austin. So, Taylor's... By the way, you've said so at least four times today. Okay. Are you... is there anything else you'd like to... I mean, I... I'm... you have no idea my Tourette's is in high gear right now. I'm glad there's no video. Fucking tripping me out. I wish we were on video. This show would actually probably pack him in. I mean, my eyes... I can barely... my eyes are barely open. They're so squinty right now. It's just... you're tripping me. Alright. So Taylor Swift, as I was saying, has pushed Jennifer Aniston out of the top spot for me.

1:43:37 But as I'm watching and what I'll do if I really feel the need to watch a Saturday Night Live, I will not go any longer than weekend update. And it's like, okay, so I've seen the artist perform, I see weekend update. Weekend update, and this comes back to what we were talking about the machine, that Saturday Night Live, their audience isn't as huge, but it's culturally very important. and their videos go viral and people talk about what they said a lot. And this will give you an idea of where the real money is betting. So I don't know what Willie Brown is thinking about with Hillary, although we know of course what's really happening, but NBC did a great job of positioning their favorite candidate.

1:44:20 And it happened during Weekend Update, you know, where they sometimes have a guest. So in this case, the guest will become a parent, but they... and I cut this down, you know, the whole thing was way too long, so I cut it down to a couple minutes. You'll hear them slam in succession. They slam Trump, of course, most of the show is about slamming Trump, then Biden, then Bernie, and they don't even talk about Kamala. But listen to this Trump keeps saying there was no quid pro quo which can only mean there was mad quid pro quo Whenever a guy with like a 30 word vocabulary starts quoting the law in Latin cuz he breaks that law all the time You know Trump hasn't been handling this impeachment news. Well, I mean he's been on a Twitter rampage He's openly called for China to investigate Joe Biden and it also came out that Trump suggested adding a moat

1:45:14 filled with alligators and snakes to his proposed border wall. I don't know how to say this, but are we sure it's okay to make fun of this guy? Twitter removed an anti-Joe Biden Nickelback meme that was posted by the president. Which is a sentence that if you had said it at any other time in history would have meant that you were in the middle of a stroke. I also want to point out that Nickelback is Canadian, so Trump was still technically using foreigners to go after Joe Biden.

1:45:52 In the third quarter of this year, Bernie Sanders raised $25 million and then he did what any 78-year-old would do after winning $28 million. He had a heart attack. Senator Elizabeth Warren has raised over $24 million in the past three months. Here to comment is Senator Elizabeth Warren. All right. Okay, so this is how it works. And it's beautiful the way they executed this. Slam everybody else. Then talk about the money, although they never mentioned how much money the Republicans and Trump raised with their scamish win-red, which was $125 million. But now let's go into Elizabeth Warren. And this is, I think, expertly done if you want to promote a candidate as a show, as a network, and probably as a financial backing, just thinking about what NBC represents.

1:46:44 They're now going to throw all of these horrible things that are said about her to the fake Elizabeth Warren who will then address them in a fantastically humorous way. It's it's what any candidate dreams of. So hold on, stop, stop. Before it starts. Yeah, yeah. Who's playing Elizabeth Warren? Is it Kate McKinnon? Yeah, of course. Oh yeah. Hello, hello, Senator. How are you? We're romantic. So you raised all of this money without any corporate donations, is that right? That's right. That's grassroots. And guess what? Mama loves to guard down. All right, so there's your first. It's like, oh, like no corporate donations. You're so awesome, sauce. That's why every day I spend four hours taking selfies with every Warby Parker customer in America.

1:47:38 And then I unwind by calling all my small donors to personally thank them. Yeah, I just wanted to know that there's been some big-bunny donors for Democrats who would said they would rather vote for Trump than you. Now this is the next thing that everyone's been talking about. Oh, beautiful. Oh yeah, wait, well listen to how she does it. What? You're kidding me! What? The billionaires don't like me? Oh no! Look, I'm gonna tell them the same thing my grandson told me when he took me to Avengers Infinity War. This ain't for you.

1:48:16 That's how it works. Discredit Clinton at the same time. Coming from NBC. That was beautiful work that they did there. Liz Warren is their bitch right now Well, we've spotted this before that they seem to be on the Liz Warren bandwagon. This won't last once Hillary shows up I know but still well done as Was it you that said this or what? Because I have yet to identify this person as one of the things that

1:49:13 I have a selective memory, I won't remember certain things from certain people who want to remain anonymous, for example. I'll never, literally cannot remember who it was. It's a trick. But once in a while, it gets to me. So I said so. And now, it may have been my wife, it may have been you, I know it's not JC, I checked with other people, but somebody pointed out this really, oh yeah, it's not in my essay. This is the one thing I should have put in, I might add it. That Hillary Clinton feels entitled to such an extreme that she is not going to let Elizabeth Warren become the first woman president. Is that you? Yeah, I think again, and we have to stop doing this,

1:50:01 I think we talked about this after the show because it came to me after the show and I said it was a little different I said no way in hell would Hillary Clinton ever let any other woman become the first female president before her. It probably was you it makes sense now. Please keep me anonymous. Too late now but the The point is, is that if that's true, if we're gonna take, let's adopt that thesis, that there's no way in hell that while Hillary's alive, that a woman is going to become president unless it's her. Is it possible that they're promoting, they pushed Warren up to the top and NBC is behind it to lure Hillary in? You know, I, phew, meta, but why the hell not?

1:50:56 Yeah, it's very meta but it makes sense because why would NBC take a chance on pissing off all the other candidates and then start extolling, and we've noticed this before, extolling Elizabeth Warren when she hasn't got a prayer to beat Trump. Let's bring back Hillary. And now we have the Willie Brown thing that just ran in the Chronicle. This is a lot of... This is very interesting. This bet, by the way, a couple people out there in England, they're making these bets at 13 to 1 that Hillary becomes the nominee in the betting houses. There's a lot of people betting. I mean, this $100 bet is an easy way to make $1,300 perhaps. I'm not recommending people bet. Do you mean if you put $100 in, you could win $1,300? Is that the idea? Yeah, it'd be a 13 to 1 bet.

1:51:40 What's the spread or doesn't it work like that? No, it doesn't. I got it. Well, I like that. I like that idea a lot. I like it a lot. Now, now the truth. She's coming. She's back. Well, that's one of our trolls made a good point and said, if you recall, SNL had Trump guest host a year before he became the nominee. So this of course was not the real Elizabeth Warren and not a guest host spot, but let's see I mean what why wouldn't they under the guise of promoting her book? Why wouldn't they have Hillary come in and do a do a hosting episode? Is she ever hosted SNL?

1:52:28 I can't recall actually. Somebody in the chat room, the troll room, can look it up because they have a list of hosts on Wikipedia. It's possible that she has, I know she's, I think she's done cameos on the show, real as her or not, Elizabeth Warren, I don't know if she's done that. She may have too. But it's beside the point if the idea is, they didn't put Trump on the show so he could become president. Let's face it. No, of course not. Of course not. But he was on NBC at the time too. The plot thickens. I like it. I like that a lot. Now, when is the next debate? The 15th of October. Okay, so that's next, what is that, next Monday? Tuesday? It could be a Tuesday or Wednesday. I think taxes is Tuesday, I think.

1:53:17 And the day after that, well, October 15th would be taxes, then it would be Tuesday. I've always said we should make election day on April 15th or April 16th when people have to actually do their taxes, not this delayed stuff. Yes, that's a great idea. Do it the day after you have to pay your taxes. Let's see how you vote. So the next day Hillary's doing a big fundraiser for what at her house? Now is this at the New York house? Or is it at the Hampton house? I just know one other place. Somebody sent me the flyer. Oh, there's a flyer for it? Oh yeah. Sweet. The picture of Hillary when she was like 30.

1:54:03 Smiling. I don't have much on the on the candidates, although I did pick up a great clip. I feel a great clip from Beto Beto Robert Bobby Francis or Rourke As you know he is Quite explicitly said hell yeah, I'm coming to take your guns. No. He said specifically to take your AR-15 and your AK-47 And as you know, my argument, certainly if you look at the Second Amendment, is the reason the United States has guns is so that when the government goes nuts, and they, or as some would say, too radical!

1:54:42 you know, then they know that they've got to watch themselves. This is the problem that the yellow vests have. This is the problem with the Dutch farmers have. You can protest all you want and these two countries specifically, with the United Kingdom, there's actual laws against your freedom of speech. You know, well you can say anything you want as long as it doesn't cause a divide in the social discourse. Well what's the point of speech then? It's actually legal, punishable by two years in Gitmo lowlands. The United Kingdom, you can't even say there's anything disparaging about a politician you can go to jail. It's incredible. Why? Because the people have no guns. Politicians are very careful in the United States. That's why they have bodyguards. Because it's the people. There's anywhere a thousand guns in every neighborhood. That's our power. They don't have to use them, they just have to know we have them.

1:55:35 And Beto O'Rourke made an argument against my argument. that Americans shouldn't have weapons designed for war that can, in under 40 seconds, kill 10 people. Here, in Virginia, in under 3 minutes, kill 22. The best argument, or one of the best arguments that I think I've heard, is that the Second Amendment is intended to ensure that the American public, if they need to, can provide a check, a violent check, their government, a tyrannical administration. People can rise up militarily against their government. We hear about a well-regulated militia. It just so happens, coincidentally,

1:56:23 I'm reading a book called Trail of Tears about the history of the Cherokee Nation. And the book starts out in the late 18th century and there are these militias that are responding to attacks by Cherokees and Creeks and there are these militias who themselves are going on the offense and attacking Native American communities. It is incredibly bloody. That is a militia at that time defending or going on the offense for a given community. In my reading of US history, We settled this question about whether we should be able to rise up against our government in 1865 in a courthouse in Appomattox, Virginia. Right now, if you wanted to arm yourself sufficient to take on a government that spends $750 billion a year on its military, which is larger than the 10 largest military budgets combined that follow ours, we're going to need more than AR-15.

1:57:22 Don't you love this guy so his first of all some false equivalency is brain dead He is brain dead even he's brain dead. Yeah, first of all did the trail of tears Okay, that's Elizabeth Warren's turf. So lay off that Beto. Oh And then to say, oh, the American people with your sad AR-15, you can't beat the American military might with it. You need aircraft carriers. We don't need to fight the army. In fact, I think the army will be on our side if needed. It's you! It's not the... We're not going to go and fight the army. You don't order the army around, Beto. Unbelievably shallow and stupid, this guy. Oh, I've never liked him.

1:58:14 I'd never disliked him, but this is just dumb. It's just dumb. I've always disliked him. I mean how can you even make this comparison? Have you seen another increase of ring doorbell stories on your local news? No, actually not here. Oh man, right now Austin is getting hammered with them and it's- Might be a test market. Oh, you know, these things are everywhere. Everywhere!

1:58:50 For packages being stolen is one thing, but now apparently there's a ring you can put in your car. It's not worth playing a clip because it's a very visual thing. So the woman apparently left her car unlocked, but she has a ring device on the dashboard. And so this kid gets in, the thing is triggered by motion. It goes on, but it also flashes on like a mini LED floodlight. And this kid, you know, he's like, and he's looking right in the camera, his eyes wide. And of course, it's, you know, everyone's laughing about it. The news is laughing about it. But the meantime, you know, there's story after story after story about how people are being saved and thank God for the ring doorbell. And, you know, and there's, there's ring for in your car, there's ring for on the front of the house, there's ring for the side, it's in the lamps, it's everywhere. And apparently the cops have continuous access to it.

1:59:47 It's so disturbing and people think it's great but meanwhile this is the truth. This is Skynet. Yeah a little bit. 1984 more so but it's, can you imagine where they say you know what we'd like to do if we could control the public because they're not buying a lot of these ideas. And it's gonna cost a fortune to put cameras everywhere and you know, they're not gonna like it. Have the slaves buy it themselves. Convince them to spy on themselves as a good thing. We could do it, we own the media. It's beautiful. And to get the money, it saves the government.

2:00:32 They don't need to put anything in place Everyone's doing it voluntarily and of course no one thinks it through They don't think it through but also most people don't care. Yeah, whatever. They know anything anyway, they can see here It's not a matter of thinking it through they don't care. Hey, it works for me. I'm great. I'm good with it Yeah, and then the and you'll appreciate this Guardian did a big story Headline collision course why are cars killing more pedestrians and as it turns out since last year 5% more Americans have been killed at pedestrians by vehicles in total. It's up 41% since 2008

2:01:24 And can you believe it? Would you believe that this is this kind of is it a global thing and and it is the Guardian and they couldn't get much more Tardy than the do that the tardy and it's calling that the tardy in from the UK So at the end of the article like well, you know could be because people are distracted when they're walking you think oh So they go through the... well, well, you know all this talk about... I'm reading from the article. All this talk about pedestrian distraction, driver distraction. That's all a distraction! Says Ben Well of the World Resource Institute for Sustainable Cities. It puts all the responsibility on the individuals and not the opera... So it's just this big bullshit article and what does it wind up with? 5G and cars. That will do it.

2:02:14 And that'll save us because... What? How does that have anything to do with anything? Because the cars will see the pedestrians and will not kill them. Bullcrap. What car? What car do you own that can do that? No, of course not. I don't have that. But that's their solution. These 5G people are shameless. But yes, I noticed it the other day. I saw somebody standing on the corner and they were looking at their phone. I don't know why. And they just walked into the street. It's just walk right into the street. Yeah, I saw him a mile away so I had to stop but you know if somebody else was like more careful you put I'll tell you combine people walking around like zombies and auto drive you know on Tesla's is great it's gonna be dynamite. Death toll high.

2:03:04 You know, I have the game where you give yourself points. You know, one point for someone walking on the street with a phone, two points if they're standing on the phone in the street, three points if they're walking while on the phone, five points if you're in the car while on the phone, and someone asks how many points if someone walks into traffic and gets hit. I think you get a free ball at that point. I mean, that's just, you know, you just go home. Wherever you were, go back home and celebrate. A jingle for you, John. Today's Teddy K. He's an OTG kind of guy. It's brand new everybody. Bam! Now his phone cannot be tracked. Because he never installed it. If he needs to know a fact. He asks money, he asks a look. Buy your favorite band, no less. Everyone knows you're a big Rush fan.

2:04:09 Rush. You mentioned the Tesla. Progressive rock in Canada. Hey, progressive rock in Canada, it's pretty good. Rush, great band, I love them. The IRS is now saying that at least 74 million dollars in federal electric vehicle tax credits were bogative and their ALGOS couldn't find it for 2018. Oh, please. You know, because you buy a Tesla, what'd you get deduct? $7,000? I think was the number. It was a good amount of money. $7,500? Yeah. If you play your cards right, Teslas are not a really inexpensive car because they're so subsidized, which is the real genius of Elon Musk. In fact, number one sales in Europe. What country is the number one seller of Teslas?

2:05:02 Deutschland? No, the Netherlands. Above Deutschland. Wow. Well, the Netherlands also gives a subsidy on top of the subsidy that the car already has built into it and in many places you get free parking. And that's what this like screw that's that ends soon. Well, let me let's play this this this electric cars in China clip and I it's a short one and I will tell you some of the visuals that you missed out on. UID is also greening the city's taxi fleet. Almost all of the city's 22,000 cabs are electric. But some drivers wish they weren't forced to make the switch. Electric taxi drivers definitely earn less because it takes several hours to recharge the car. Sometimes we have to wait in line. Two months ago, I waited in line one hour or more for a charging station. Then it took me two hours to recharge. Those are hours I could have been working. But he has no choice.

2:06:03 The central planners of China's government say they're committed to ensuring the electric vehicle market becomes a world leader. This year China imposed an emissions credit system that requires car manufacturers to reduce emissions below a certain level or pay for credits from other companies. That's an expenditure they want to avoid so they're being compelled to go more green and that applies to domestic and international companies. I can't wait to hear what I missed visually. So they show a lineup of taxis going into the charging area and the lineup is like a half a mile long and like he says is an hour wait, then they show the charging area thousands of chargers. Thousands. Wow. And they're packed.

2:06:53 with taxis and there's a line going up, because when you're dependent on this, imagine what the gasoline lines would be like, or even any gasoline station. If you drove up to a pump and you stuck the thing in your car. And you had to wait an hour. Two hours. two hours to fill up the tank. If it took two hours to fill up the tank, can you imagine what the gasoline lines would be like? There's not enough charging stations and this is really one of the kind of the bottlenecks of the whole scheme. Now, Nio, that company, the real popular Japanese, Chinese electric car maker, I think it's Nio, N-I-O, I'm not sure, but we have one of our No Agenda folk that lives in Oakland, works for them.

2:07:38 one of our producers. But they have the right idea and Tesla's thought about trying to do this and they just couldn't, they didn't engineer it right away so now they can't do it or they. Can't do it now, which is the neo you you drive in to a charging station and it puts you on a lift drops your battery pack out put Yeah, yeah, I've seen animation of that. Yeah, and you're on your way Didn't that fail in in Israel didn't one of our our Similar situation with cheesier cars The Chinese are more likely to make this work. Yeah

2:08:19 Seems to me. I could be wrong. But anyway, that's one possible. But then you have to have these giant warehouses full of charged batteries. Yeah. I mean, this is just impractical. That's the reason gasoline. You have to remember that around the turn of this old century in the early 1900s, electric cars were very popular. Jay Leno has a number of special electric cars. You know, I've become a bit addicted to Jay Leno's garage on YouTube. You said that. I said it also after the show. Yes, but a very it's a very entertaining very educational. That's why you're addicted to it Do you know what? I like the best though? Not the electric cars. My favorite is the steam cars. We can bring that back

2:09:02 The steam cars are great. And they're just really cool. They do 65, 70 top speed and the torque rips the asphalt out of the pavement almost. Yeah, I mean you gotta keep your car on fire. move in and then at some point when they put in this infrastructure of gasoline stations and the convenience of a high energy liquid that you can just put in the car and then it goes away, you don't have to swap it out.

2:09:49 It beat those other technologies and it's to me still the most practical way to power an automobile, even though the engines I think are too complicated. In the Netherlands, Troll Hadem says, you know why Tesla is cheap in the Netherlands? Not the price of the car necessarily, gasoline is so expensive. Half of the, same all over Europe, half of the price of your gallon or liter of gas is taxes. It's five times as expensive in the US, so I understand where they're coming from, but it's going to end ugly. What doesn't? Do you have the, uh, the Joe, I have the, I have the Sunday Joe Biden clip of the week. Oh, we need a, yeah, hold on a second. Yeah, we got some here. That's not the one I wanted, but that's not the one I was looking for. This is the one I was looking for.

2:10:54 All right, time for Joe's gaffe of the week. What you got lined up for us today, John? Well, this is a weird botch because this little bit that he does here, he actually, besides having flubs in it, he uses it himself for his campaign. It's part of a Joe Biden campaign ad. But let's play it. We'll see what's wrong with it. You know, if there are any angels in heaven, they're all male and female nurses. and they're not getting paid enough, they're not getting treated enough. And all those home care workers, they should be trained how to increase their capacity to serve everything. I mean, we can do this. What? Wait, to serve what? They're not getting paid enough and they're not getting treated enough. I thought that was kind of weird. But what it resulted in, the backlash to this was not the bad sentence structures.

2:11:54 but it was from the left, his own supporters. There are more than two genders! Oh goodness! There's a few people to thank for show 1179 but before we do I actually have a clip. Oh, I'm sorry And that's okay. This is a clip that leads into this and we want to I want to play the clip first So people realize what they're in for there's a YouTube celebrity who worked with or twitch celebrity who worked with

2:12:44 what we called sponsored streams, which was native ads. And this guy's name is Jericho. And he was involved with a lot of sponsored streams or native ads. And they had one, and Adam and I can both discuss a little bit of this because there's one little mention in here of legal action. When you do these sponsored streams, you usually sign a nondisclosure. For example, at MeVideo they had some sponsored crap from, it was Verizon I think, or one of the big phone companies. And they were gonna do some ads for Verizon and so they had to sign off in this. I never got involved with this particularly because I was irked about it because everyone got a free phone. But I read the document and it's very specific about what you can and cannot say

2:13:41 Verizon or any of the other companies. You can't even mention the other companies that really gets them bent out of shape. Yeah, oh, no. Yeah, that was um, you couldn't wear it was for Sprint when you could not wear anything purple. Yeah, because that was the color of T-Mobile even though they later acquired them. Oh, no, it was Verizon. I'm sorry Verizon wouldn't let you wear yellow or purple because Verizon's red and no purple and no yellow. That's it. So this guy got himself in a jam and he explains it and he's been pretty much blackballed now and he can't get, you know, his income has dropped to zero. But listen to him explain what happened. This is Jericho. Yeah. Just put me in the doghouse for a while. You know what, it's fine. I can tell you about it because it's my fault, okay? Basically I did a sponsored stream with McDonald's and Uber Eats and at the beginning of the stream,

2:14:39 I accidentally said, because I was just trying to show off the big MAC coins that they had sent me, I took them and I had a Freudian slip. Like when you call your teacher mom. I took the coins back and I said, and McDonald's sent me 100 Whopper coins. I was like, immediately I was like, fuck, I missed, I didn't mean to say that. Like, it was what it was. And then, basically, and then also I was playing Smash, and my character is red, and the skin's Red Robin, okay? So I said that. And it was the first time that McDonald's was working with Twitch in that capacity, and they were using me as the poster boy for it.

2:15:23 And McDonald's was very, very, very, very upset to the point where there was legal issues involved. And Twitch's higher-ups that got that campaign were very, very, very, very upset as well. And as a result, I'm no longer going to be doing any brand deals with Twitch for the foreseeable future. So I'm working on trying to figure out a way to make that smooth over with McDonald's, but it's a very serious It's a very serious issue, a very big mistake that I made, and I am absolutely in the doghouse with that. It was an honest mistake, but you can't make mistakes like that when you're working with some of the world's biggest brands.

2:16:17 Yeah, imagine if I had said nothing burger done. Goodbye No more show McDonald's was stopped sponsoring immediately. I found this to be just a I mean, I knew about sponsored streams, but then I remember, and I forgot about the Verizon deal that was done at Mevio where they had stuff like he just mentioned. His character was Red, Red Robin, you know, another competitor, you can't mention them, and they changed it from, you know, Whopper. He said the word Whopper. Yeah. Oops. Which you can't do. I mean, this is what you're up against and what the kind of crap you get. The general public is just being fed

2:17:00 Junk by the media the media is lost. It's lost cause that's what we have to do it the way we do it It's it's the only way that enables us to actually speak freely and not be the only thing we have to worry about is each other basically Yeah, keep each other alive each other get mad and then we want one of us will just walk I've had it with you. I'm getting my zoomer frame and I'm out. Oh You go on the ham radio try to do a show there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we get I'll get one of those cameras have my face in the camera yelling at you

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2:27:11 Ow, ow, ow. I was trying to get the sword and hit the button. I got mine out, here you go. I know, I'm not... There we go, thanks. Got it. I'm holding it high. Hold them swords high! To the podium, please! Anonymous dude named Ben and Maxine Waters Gravel. Gentlemen, both of you have supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. We are very thankful for that. And I am proud to hereby pronounce the KV both knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. So up here on the podium, we say... Congratulations and welcome sir hashtag blessed and sir Maxine waters gravel night of the cheap last for you We have skillets and mint tulips. We got hookers and blow rent boys and Chardonnay. We got to cava tea waifus and waffles We got room with us women in Rose a we got mutton and mead Oh, that's the favorite at the end breast milk and paloma, of course ginger ale and gerbils Go to know a gen the nation comm slash rings and Eric the shill

2:28:09 We'll make sure that you get everything as soon as we can possibly get it to you But you do have to fill out some information so we can find you and the right ring size obviously Here's what's going on in meetup land if you have not It's like a party If you're not participated in one of these meetups, this is something you must do at least once in your life Go visit a meetup and you can do that by checking out no agenda meetups calm I'm gonna actually put the full Meetup schedule in the show notes for some reason that hasn't been making it in and Mimi does a great job of an overview So make sure you get that but essentially for October 10th South Austin is where that's taking place, and I'm still see the 10th. I think that's a Thursday which is I mean I'll stop by but I won't be worth much. You know it's like after the show. I'm pretty wiped I

2:29:07 Are you tired after the show? I'm not as tired as... I remember when I was doing that Silicon Spin show, which was a half an hour of TV. I was more wiped out by doing TV than just plain audio. I'm also standing and I'm active. Yeah, I'm not standing, I'm leaning way back in the chaise. I've got the mic kind of on a big thing pulled toward me so I might as well be on my back. I've got the standing desk and both arms are moving. Yeah, you're waving your arms. Everything's twitching. You're jumping jacks sometimes. In fact, I was told by Tina, even though they don't want me to

2:29:50 put this out there. Yeah. That apparently when I'm talking a lot, that's why you don't hear me once in a while is you drop and do like 10, you do like 10 push pushups, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang during the show. And then you pop back up and I can't I can't believe she told you that. That's so mean. Yeah, I know. October 11th, Tokyo, it's going to be good one with massive royalty there. The guys from Osaka are coming up. We got Earl of Tennessee is going to be there, of course. Of course, Sir Mark Day Mastred. Wow, I wish I could be there. October 19th, we have meetups in Atlanta and Santa Fe and Orlando. It's a triple threat. The 20th of October, Louisville, Kentucky. 24th, Nashville, Tennessee. The 25th, Portland, Oregon and Charlotte, North Carolina. The 26th, Nashville, Tennessee again. Wow, that seems pretty tight. I'll have to figure out what's going on there. And also Colorado Springs, Colorado.

2:30:44 Please go to noagentandmeetups.com to see, get all the information and most meetup reports are also, or many are posted there. I hope all of them will be posted there. I did want to highlight this one from Hendrik, Sir Hendrik from Gitmo Nation Lowlands with the meetup report for the second meetup in Utrecht, the Netherlands. That was this past Friday. Eleven people showed up. Three from the last meetup, eight new producers and douchebags. Dearly missed was Sir Endipity from Gitmo Nation, but hello. He was tied up with work somewhere in Gitmo Lowlands. Nonetheless, three foreigners showed up. One from St. Martin, one from California, and one from Texas. Embarrassingly, Knights and Dames showed up without their rings. Hmm.

2:31:32 I'm going to give you some of their job descriptions because he put that in the report just to give you an idea of the kind of people you'll meet at an at Inoogen Amita. So Samuel from The Hague is IT Human Resources, Sir Bob of the Clueless Country from Herpin is in Financial Investments, Ed van Dyck and his brother from Herpin, Network Specialist, Jacob Hopper from Maastricht, US Department of Homeland Security, Corrie Stringer also from Maastricht, she does Jacob

2:32:11 is what she explained. I guess there are a couple. Sir Rob from Leiden in IT, Robin Dusburg from The Hague IT, Dame Jacobina from Veldhoven works in M5M, Sir Hierko from Utrecht in sales and IT, Peter Beukelman from Houten and his crowd. I guess he brought his kids. He's a chip designer. And of course himself Sir Hendrik, Knight of the Black Sabre from Utrecht, sales in chemical engineering and catering, which chemical engineering and catering go together incredibly well, it turns out. We discussed jingles, earlobes predicting diabetes, cannabis, the 5G rollout, and many other topics. Good times were had by all.

2:32:56 This is exactly what this is about. This is what makes it so fantastic. Is you meet all these people, you can learn about them, you can joke, you can have fun. Doesn't matter what you look like, how old you are, where you're coming from. No triggering because no one's triggered because the amygdalas are small and usually good time is had by all. Noagendameetups.com. It's something I highly recommend. And please, if you're a ham radio operator, consider Checking into our all-star node. It is 50450 but just go to k5acc.com all the information is there and you can also get there through Echo link as well, and wow there we go That's it. I think oh um no. I've done all the jingles done all that then I have this

2:33:49 seven-year-old now named sexy vegan was arrested on one count of sexual assault on an animal and one count of posting obscene matter. It's not the first time vegan has been in the media. The man appeared on Dr. Phil in 2017 when his family called attention to his outlandish behavior including getting a tattoo of his name on his face. If found guilty of the sexual assault charge, he faces up to a year in jail. There you go. That's the way you do it. Dogs are people too. Assault them sexually. At least we're honest about it. Nice. Wow. Now I have a couple of clips. I got a fact or fake.

2:34:27 Follow up you wanted to hear that segment every once in a while. Yeah, I have a jingle for it We do not have a factor fake jingle. I do have to I do have something to report. I just thought about it Okay, this effort went by this morning. Yes, how many cars? It had nine cars and it was missing the kind of dome observation deck. The observation deck, oh really. Yeah, one car's got all these big windows and it wasn't on the train. Well then it's not really a Zephyr. I don't know what it is. It's a phony. So, the factor fake, we got two, I got two options. I would like to go, and this is again a segment that's done on France 24 on behalf of the globalists.

2:35:11 to make it seem that the EU is just the greatest bunch of guys and they're just helping everybody do their own thing. And so here's the latest one we're going to run with this one. This is the factor fake. The EU is bringing it's a they start with a piece of fiction and then they debunk it. This is on GM salmon. Well, this story originated with a declaration by the head of the European election candidate list for France's far right, Rassemblement National, the party previously known as the Front National. During an election rally, Jordan Bardella claimed that the EU's international trade treaties were allowing imports into France of, quote, hormone beef, genetically modified salmon and chlorine washed chicken. Well, Jordan Bardella is not the first person to make such claims.

2:35:59 The European Commission rebuffed his assertion, however, in a tweet saying that all three products are banned in Europe. So who's right? Well, none of the products cited by Mr. Berdella are commercially available in the EU, neither homegrown or as imports. The hormone beef ban dates back to 1988. All GM food, meanwhile, has to obtain official authorization and it has not been given in the case of salmon. As for washing chicken in chlorine, that was formally banned in the EU in 1997. Only drinking grade water can be used to decontaminate animal products. Well the World Trade Organization is currently examining a challenge to this ban but it is still in place for now. There are fears that the EU-Canada trade deal setter could lead to loopholes regarding such foods. Canada doesn't label GM salmon as such, raising worries that it could enter the EU fraudulently. The European Commission however has no say over border checks. This is a matter handled by member states. Well that was a lot of information.

2:36:59 At the end of the day, it's always handled by member states because we're not really a giant empire. The member states take care of this. Even though there's no border controls or anything, things come and they go into one state, they go to all of them. I mean, this whole thing is a scam. But they just beat around the bush about what's, GM is not allowed with salmon, but they never said anything about beef. The whole it was confusing. Yeah, you're right. It was confusing. Well, I all I could hear is fine. It's fine Adam I could hear the the chlorine chicken. That's what my eyes glaze over chlorine chlorine chicken again that old gaffe Yeah, well, well, let's end with something strong if you don't mind I'm looking at you have something strong because I have a couple of things I have a two-parter which I can put off and

2:37:54 As long as it's strong. The end of the Fee-Yakker in Austria is kind of interesting to me. No, I mean strong. Not interesting, strong. Strong, net neutrality, judgment, Netanyahu could be arrested. Yeah, what is this I love babies jingle? I didn't know you had a jingle. I don't have I love babies jingle. It's in your folder. Well, I didn't put it in there, you did. Let me listen. Hello babies! We got to start eating babies. I didn't realize. You're right, I put that back mistake. It was supposed to be played back in the baby clip. I guess I missed it because I put it in your folder.

2:38:41 It's a good one. It's a variation of the variation of the bugs. Well, should we just classic so we just leave it at that? I thought that was the best that was a strong one to go. That's a strong and we go with a bit of that But we will be back on the second Sunday or the first Thursday of the week Whichever way you want to look at it, which apparently is the same day as the South Austin meetup It shouldn't be too hard for me to get there then you never know what'll happen, but we'll be all over it guaranteed So keep it coming everything that we can Get from you is appreciated We've got grumpy old Ben's coming up with the latest show I think episode 29 about the climate change I'll be monitoring after the show a little bit after the show find out more k5a CC comm and Remember us at the vorac org slash na End of show mixes. Thank you. Jesse Coy Nelson Danny loose

2:39:39 And yeah, that's we I was a secret agent Paul. Oh, you know what? I forgot to get to my phone report. I was got if I got a new phone, I'm going to give a review of it and because they always tell the podcast make hay with doing reviews of phones out do it next show for sure. Until then, coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 FEMA region number six in the governmental maps in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Duvorak. Adios, mofos! And such.

2:40:29 Suburban riding. Suffocating smoke from wildfires. Climate change. Makes such bad headaches. Now you may cut me, man, but I'm gonna wrap this chain around your head. They're just concealers and manufactured goods, ain't that what's on there? I'm sick of the turtle! To get a mousse, I said, no. What's the air called? Eat them because they eat the plastic bags because they think they're cheesy. The curb's getting rusty. How do you feel about this? Is this still extreme? If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch. What about Ukraine and China? They're chunks of urban riot future. We're afraid to school with our futures. But what could happen? Coal is huge. And Iran, a bad boy. Educated virtue-signalling little turd. What a bad boy. Sri Lanka's look at the world. It teaches to switch off the air-con. Badly educated virtue-signalling little turd. Yes! I said, hey Esther! The cause of our past is the US. What about you, Commissioner?

2:41:25 The turtle! A juicy bling little turd off the air con. Badly educated. Eat the plastic bags cause they think they're jealousy. What's so great about this? Wow, what do we do about this? Just switch off the air con. But the change is real! Which takes us back a sandwich. Whoa! I'm surprised no one thinks that. But I was in a meeting with a, uh, crow with you. I think they're enormously serious. And, uh, the fact that they're the Wall Street Turtle. Find some bad boys. The horse. Sorry, uh, I wanted to be your attorney to the Washington Post, but this is not the right solution. I'm so sorry!

2:42:30 They wanted him removed. They'd do it anyway. The Democrats have argued for nearly three years. Even if nothing was proved. The evidence of collusion is hidden. How about collusion? Just around the corner, like the Loch Ness Monster. With Vladimir Putin. They insist it's there. It's a Russian betrayal. Even if no one can find it. Let's send Orange Man to jail. Will they try and impeach? What a zero! What the hell are they trying it for? It'll never happen.

2:43:28 And there was Daniel... ...cashing in on controversy. She was so stormy... ...says making America horny again here. But there was no sizzle... I guess that you can take from that what you will. The scandal was a fizzle... This is the Twitter storm sensation. Now it's Ukraine... All about a phone call... But Hunter Biden is shady That whole deal was cheap And will they try to impeach? What a zero! What the hell are they trying it for? It's not gonna happen!

2:44:29 Joe Joe will buy a new gun The Hillary's got a gun ISIS We will follow them to the gate of hell Isis I feel good! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak.org slash N A We got to start eating babies