Episode 1108 · Friday, 1 February 2019

Sarcasm

Legal warfare against Huawei intensifies as the 2020 presidential race heats up and the Pentagon explores new statutory authorities to fund the southern border wall.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1108

About this episode

The Department of Justice has filed nearly two dozen criminal charges against Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei and CFO Meng Wanzhou, alleging the theft of trade secrets from T-Mobile and the violation of Iranian sanctions. This legal escalation signals a deepening tech war as the United States moves to block Chinese dominance in global 5G infrastructure. The indictments specifically highlight the alleged theft of a testing robot named Tappy, framing the conflict as a matter of national security and industrial competition.

Domestic political maneuvers intensify as President Trump considers using 10 U.S. Code Section 284 to fund border wall construction via the Pentagon, bypassing congressional gridlock. Meanwhile, the 2020 presidential field expands with Senator Kamala Harris launching her campaign in Oakland and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand invoking dramatic rhetoric to challenge the current administration. In Venezuela, National Security Advisor John Bolton identifies a Troika of Tyranny while the international community recognizes Juan Guaidó as the legitimate interim leader over Nicolás Maduro. Economic shifts also surface as statistician John Williams explains how the Bureau of Labor Statistics manipulated the Consumer Price Index to suppress reported inflation through substitution methods.

Personal privacy reaches a tipping point as Pi-hole network logs reveal Roku devices pinging tracking servers every sixty seconds to report user activity. The show honors the late heavy metal historian Sir Greg Davies, known online as CGT2099, with a memorial dedication following his sudden passing in Australia. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of dog DNA testing in urban apartments and the rise of cricket-based pet food marketed as a climate solution.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

Sir Greg Davies Memorial, Heavy Metal Historian Tribute

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 1108 by dedicating the show to the memory of Sir Greg Davies, a prominent community member and "heavy metal historian" who passed away at age 41. The hosts read a letter from his fiancé, Dame Jennifer Weta, detailing his sudden death from a heart attack in Perth, Australia. Listeners are encouraged to make memorial donations of $20.99, a figure inspired by Davies' internet handle, CGT2099.

greg davies· heavy metal historian· perth australia· heart attack· memorial donation

00:00 I love Clinton. You love Clinton. There's a song there. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday January 31st 2019 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1108 This Is No Agenda Two woke white guys experiencing aging and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas in the Cluedio. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the polar vortex can't touch us...I'm John C. DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning! Sure it can. Polar vortex can touch anybody anytime anywhere Well that's a big dam that broke

00:43 According to the global warmest. Oh a dam that broke no less Yeah, it's a damn that broke but before we get to that I'd like everyone to know this show Episode 1108 is dedicated to The memory of sir Greg Davies the heavy metal historian He passed away couple days ago and I want to read a note from his partner Dame Jennifer Weta of the gypsy nation John Adam and the No Agenda family, I'm deeply saddened to let you know that my fiancé Sir Greg Davies, the heavy metal historian passed away in his home on the morning of January 29th 2019. The Barrett's esophagus condition may have indirectly contributed to Greg's death but most likely immediate cause was a heart attack and he was only 41 years old

01:29 In his short time upon this earth, Greg was a dynamic force in the lives of so many people. Many of whom have reached out to me since the news broke from his hometown of Perth Australia to the UK to all around the US and indeed all around the world condolences and fond memories have come in I'm touched and honored by all of the support expressed by those who knew him even if he was only online but then no agenda community's support has been especially comforting during this difficult time One of your producers had suggested that donations in the amount of $20.99 be made to the show in Greg's honor The reason for this particular donation amount is inspired by Greg's common internet handle CGT 20 99 he had a huge internet presence and worked in IT So it was only fitting that a memorial donation and this amount has been promoted He would have saluted this with two horns up

02:17 Memorial arrangements have not yet been finalized, but his family and I have decided upon a huge party open to anyone who wishes to come. I will post details online once we have the date set." I know Greg contributed several jingles and pieces of artwork over the years so can we have 69 dudes and Putin don't worry be happy in his honor? And can we also have some estate settlement goat karma With much love and appreciation, Dame Jennifer Weta of the Gypsy Nation in Lawton Oklahoma. Absolutely. 69! D9 dudes! Don't worry Be happy Don't worry be happy You've got... Karma Alright And he will be missed

03:14 Yeah, yeah. I believe he's the one who did the artwork for show 10th anniversary show there you go Yeah, yeah emailed with him just a couple weeks ago. Yeah He was only knighted You know just around Christmas time well fuck that sorry not good no all right? Well oh wow you just got real loud all of a sudden What are you doing? Why are you doing this to me? Easy easy partner You can back off. Just back off, man! Yes, back to the polar vortex then? Yeah the polar vortex apparently is freezing everybody. I do have some weather reports including some that include the... well here let's start with

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

Polar Vortex, Global Warming Media Narrative

The discussion examines media coverage of the extreme cold in the American Midwest contrasted with record heat in Australia. NBC News reports suggest that the "breaking" of the jet stream like a dam is evidence of climate change, a claim the hosts view with skepticism. They analyze how weather experts at NOAA and various news outlets use the "polar vortex" terminology to link seasonal cold snaps to greenhouse gas warming.

polar vortex· climate change· nbc news· jet stream· arctic air

04:02 Weather weather weather. Let's start with bad weather global warming report from NBC the bad whether then global warming report across the globe The weather picture is one of fire and ice bone numbing record cold in the Midwest fire and record heat in Australia 120 degrees and hotter this month what that really means is that fires will be uncontrollable they'll be fast-moving and yo-yo weather cycles after after the deep freeze in the US, a 50 degree rebound in some cities within days. Hard to believe when you're frozen like an icicle but experts say that Arctic blast is in fact further evidence of climate change In response to President Trump's skepticism The weather experts at NOAA tweeting winter storms don't prove that global warming isn't happening Here's why

04:51 At the North Pole, scientists say the melting sea ice and ocean temperatures have caused the walls of the jet stream or polar vortex to break open like a dam in places. That has allowed Arctic air to escape rushing south into the Midwest. Not only is greenhouse gas warming impacting the planet, but it's really beginning to kick in and it's kicking into parts of the planet that are most sensitive. In particular Arctic sea ice regions and the Arctic. You know I just believe at all. It's fine perfect you know I'm all in does anybody note that it has a elements of you know 1984 where good is bad and bad as good and that jingle we let you play? You mean newspeak? Yeah newspeak yes

05:38 What's the jingle we used? It's a double speak is I think what we used to call it and we had a jingle for that Yeah, yeah well isn't these not the same with just pretty much everything So that which clip was that that was? Hold on here's the here's the jingle you were talking about There you go Yes, I have horrible weather NBC on deck 20 seconds. Yeah play that. ...holds millions at a dangerous and icy grip A blast of Arctic air sweeping across the upper tier of the country now rapidly pushing toward the Northeast The weather blamed for at least six deaths so far Wind chills are dipping as far as 50 below zero So cold in Chicago that fires were actually lit to keep commuter rails from freezing

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Jussie Smollett Incident, Chicago Cold Wave

The hosts review the initial reports surrounding actor Jussie Smollett, who claimed to be the victim of a racially motivated attack in Chicago during a period of extreme sub-zero temperatures. They question the logistics of the alleged assault occurring at 2:00 AM in 20-below-zero weather in the affluent Streeterville neighborhood. The segment highlights the lack of immediate evidence regarding the reported "lynching" attempt involving a rope and MAGA hats.

jussie smollett· chicago· empire· streeterville· hate crime

06:31 You know, there was this story that happened over the past two days about this actor who's in the I think it was a Showtime or HBO Empire Jussie Smollett. Yes, if Fox is Oh Fox up what do I know? So you just heard Chicago was 40 50 below zero Let's make it 20 below 0 when this happened on Tuesday just to make it easy And he was out in Chicago, in Streeterville by the way which is very affluent neighborhood. It's not the south side of Chicago. 20 below zero and he's in a subway shop and then something happened and they can't find any

07:15 They can't find any evidence of a so-called lynching because he had a form of rope around his neck. I'm thinking... Oh yeah, guys with Trump hats! Yeah, MAGA hats. You know what? Let's just be racist for a moment. Hey man, I got an idea let's go wrap a rope around some black guy's neck it's 20 below zero It's 2 in the morning you ready?! I'm all in you come on Well, it's pretty sketchy and it's a shame that he got so much attention. But back to the weather I do have one last clip which is Amy since she's the one who would promote the global warming stuff the most on The Vortex. Yes. What am I looking... Oh here Amy on The Vortex. Back in the US the polar vortex enveloping the Midwest is causing record lows across the region with temperatures in some areas including Detroit dipping below temperatures in Antarctica

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

NPR Climate Science, Polar Vortex Variability

A clip from NPR features a NOAA scientist explaining the mechanics of the polar vortex and its relationship to the troposphere. The scientist notes that while the stratospheric vortex has weakened over 30 years, it is unclear if this is due to climate change or long-term natural variability. The hosts highlight the scientist's admission that climate models actually predict fewer cold air outbreaks in the future, contradicting current media alarmism.

npr· noaa· climate models· troposphere· greenhouse gases

08:11 The wind chill temperature in Chicago hit 49 degrees below zero. That's Fahrenheit this morning, President Trump used the extreme weather to once again deny climate change tweeting Monday in the beautiful Midwest wind chill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees the coldest ever recorded incoming days expected to get even colder people can't last outside even for minutes what the hell is going on with global I do have two clips regarding this, should you be interested.

09:07 NOOA scientist who appeared on NPR and I've chopped a little bit of that so we can listen to the official explanation of the polar vortex and how it has nothing to do with anthropogenic climate change slash global warming. That's unusual from those guys they're all in on the anthropogenic stuff well Maybe I'm just being facetious. So the point is that scientists and don't you love her already? She's great so the point is that scientists in general have been referring to the polar vortex and the stratosphere but

09:44 Because they cause these colder outbreaks in the troposphere. The term polar vortex has been somewhat adopted to explain this cold weather outbreak But it's really just a part of our weather system that we get sometimes We get these cold extremes Due to these lobes of the jet stream that gets separated from the main flow and bring down These very cold this very cold air are you following so it's really not polar vortex at all This is what peaked my interest with the queue, okay? So here's the key question then. How related is the phenomenon that we're experiencing now, how related is it to climate change?

10:25 So instead of listening to this woman give us a nice explanation and maybe shed some light on the situation, we immediately jump. Yes! Who cares about that? Let's talk about climate change. Hey hey you're taking up valuable NPR airtime lady get to the propaganda Yeah so what's been interesting is that there is some agreement that over the past 30 years or so The polar vortex in the stratosphere has weakened somewhat. However, what's less clear is whether that's been caused by climate change and particular sea ice loss or whether it's just some longer-term variability I love that the climate scientist is kind of 3% uncertain about this And one of the reasons we wonder if it's really forced by increased greenhouse gases

11:15 is because the climate models running into the future do not see significant or agreed upon changes in these cold air outbreaks occurring more often. In fact, they overwhelmingly see that we'll experience fewer and fewer colder outbreaks. Okay, write this down right down January 31st 2019 you heard it here less polar vortex in our future into the future fewer and fewer okay can you help explain that I mean to be get back on script perfectly honest i feel like i'm not quite caught up with you on yeah on the script where are you in the script? I don't know I'm looking at this

11:57 And I don't quite see exactly where you are in the pages. Could you please, uh... You know get back? These cold air outbreaks occurring more often In fact they overwhelmingly see that we'll experience fewer and fewer cold air outbreaks into the future Fewer and fewer Okay Yes Can you help explain that? To be perfectly honest I feel like i'm not quite caught up with you on why that might be So could you explain that Yeah so in general The response to when you put more CO2 Into the atmosphere you're gonna warm the atmosphere and that's gonna be true in all seasons, and in winter as well. What some people have proposed is that maybe because you're also melting sea ice that can weaken the jet stream and you get some more of these cold air outbreaks but whether the models just don't have these processes modeled correctly or whether this really isn't going to be a big influence

12:53 We generally don't see any weakening of that vortex in these climate models. Okay, because I guess what I'm saying is as you almost certainly know every time we have one of these extreme cold weather events there are people out there including the President of the United States, who say global warming or climate change what gives? How can we have these extreme cold events if we also have climate change. But are you saying that there is some kind of relationship between the two? I'm saying it's possible. It's an interesting idea. We're already into spending hundreds of billions of dollars on this bullshit interesting area of Science where there's not a lot of consensus right now in terms of what will happen in the future and with climate change and cold air outbreak I think there's going to be less cold extremes

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Kate Marvel, Climate Model Cloud Uncertainty

Climate scientist Kate Marvel discusses the inherent flaws in current climate models during an appearance on the Freakonomics podcast. She identifies clouds as the "wild card" of climate science because they are difficult to simulate due to their scale, ranging from tiny dust particles to massive atmospheric formations. The hosts interpret these admissions as a sign that the scientific community is beginning to "back off" from previous certainties regarding global warming.

kate marvel· nasa goddard· freakonomics· cloud modeling· climate system

13:45 than there are, but the weather is noisy and so you're still... Weather is noisy! Now this is new. I like this. We're gonna have these very cold extremes occur on occasion it's just going to be fewer and fewer of them Weather is noisy. Okay Since we're on the topic she mentioned the models, you know how Everybody talks a little bit more than they should when they're on podcasts it's always fun to listen and freakonomics the Freakonomics podcast had a See Kate Marvel on she is a climate scientist at Columbia University and the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and she Sadly had to admit that the climate models suck So we don't know exactly how hot it's gonna get and a lot of that is because if human behavior We don't know what humans are gonna. Do but even if you take out all the uncertainty surrounding humans I

14:41 there's still uncertainties in the physical climate system. And this is really embarrassing because people are like, come on climate scientists you had one job and we're working on it right? But the wild card is really clouds because when we talk about global warming we mean climate change and a lot of stuff is going to change when it warms up. One of those things that's gonna change is clouds And clouds are really important in the climate system because they both warm the planet and they cool the planet at the same time. So why is it such a wild card? What will be the variables that change the behavior or the proliferation, whatever of clouds that might dictate temperature? Clouds are so hard to understand. They're really hard to shove in a climate model because they're both really small right there nucleated by tiny tiny grains of sand or dust

15:32 But at the same time, they're really big. They cover a giant portion of the Earth and it's really hard within a computer model of the climate system to simulate something that is both really small and really big so basically we suck at it! We are really bad at modeling clouds Yeah, that's all right. You know what I'm sensing mm-hmm cuz you had an NOAA person now this one and then the and of course the gung ho woman from NPR in the this guy is this is a Blitz a PR blitz no I don't sense that at what I'm sensing is just slowly backing oh Backing off

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Union Oil Anecdote, Gradual Data Correction

A personal anecdote describes a past experience as a chemist at Union Oil, where a factor-of-ten error was made during sulfur content testing. Rather than admitting the massive mistake immediately, the speaker describes "backing out" of the error by gradually adjusting subsequent test results to appear normal. This story serves as a metaphor for how the hosts believe climate scientists are currently handling flawed computer models.

union oil· chemist· sulfur content· data manipulation· error correction

16:15 It's like let's do this. Let's just, let's just weaken it a little bit. Shut up already! This reminds me of the time I used to be when I was a chemist at Union Oil and I was doing testing on certain things and I made some factor of 10 mistake which is embarrassing as hell. Oops. Since they keep all the records from always Fred they're gonna catch up with you so he make this mistake and you send us back whatever facility it was that was looking for this information, and it's off by a factor of 10. And then you...and then they all panic because it's like oh no this is no good! And so uh Then you retest it and go Oh my god I was wrong by a factor of ten So you start doing the bit that I did Which was what? Wait a minute can we learn from this do we need to take notes

17:06 Which is, yeah this might be useful for somebody. Instead of just admitting failure... Now hold on what 10 times what? Can you just tell us what this was? I can't remember it was sulfur content probably But it's off spec, that's the main thing. And once it's off spec they have to fix it and so you start giving them test results back on the new... So they started throwing stuff back at ya and you know that you're wrong so you give em fake results that are less and less and less over a period of maybe six to ten samples. You just try to bring down your goof gradually?

17:44 a little bit at a time, and then boom you're good to go. And this all takes place within a couple of hours so it's not like horrible but I mean how much money they lost on this because I don't know what they did with the stuff but that kind of thing which happens it has to be back out slowly. You can't all of sudden say hey we realize that these climate models these computer models that were basing all this stuff on are bogus And they don't work now that we've got more and more data, and we're looking at data from the last 20 years. None of this stuff works because the computer models are notoriously bad for all kinds of stuff What are we gonna do? No no don't make that admission It looks like we scammed everybody so let's just back out slow slow as slowly can That could be possible We'll keep our eyes on it Well that was two examples Yes Just in this week alone Of course kids in America

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

John Williams, CPI Inflation Calculation Changes

Statistician John Williams of ShadowStats explains how the U.S. government altered the Consumer Price Index (CPI) calculation in the 1980s to lower reported inflation. He details how Alan Greenspan introduced "substitution," assuming that if steak becomes too expensive, consumers will buy chicken, thus maintaining their standard of living. The hosts argue this manipulation allows the government to reduce Social Security cost-of-living adjustments while ignoring the actual rise in expenses.

john williams· shadow stats· consumer price index· alan greenspan· inflation

22:04 So I was listening to a bunch of obscurities too, and we talked about this a little bit on the DHM plug show but we didn't play anything. But I thought this would be a good little piece of educational information because I didn't really fully understand what some of the elements that had changed with the cost-of-living... Oh you mean that people live paycheck to paycheck and are in debt because of stupid shit they're told to buy? No, this is more about how the inflation rate is calculated and how it doesn't really match what we... With wages? What we think. Well no, it doesn't match what we think of as inflation. In other words, just cost for to do stuff because of the true M1, 2 and 3 money supply. Yeah well that's you know you're talking about the money supply

22:51 But that's the government telling us that no, no. No, everything is fine. Everything is fine. Yeah well so I've John Williams who's this guy Statistician economist he's in San Francisco He does shadow stats and that's the ones we refer to once in a while when we bring up two real unemployment numbers and other things such as That mm-hmm and such as and such good use of n such And so I got this little clip of him on some podcast with some guys really wasn't doing a very good job of interviewing you, but I thought this would be something for this show because it was very good explanation of the cost-of-living and how inflation works. And how their calculation has changed and I didn't even know all this stuff myself. In 1980's they wanted to change the way that cost-of-living adjustment was calculated for social security recipients among others. Yeah screw everybody!

23:50 Newt Gingrich put it was, we can only get a more accurate CPI in there meaning at lower rate of inflation. It'll help us cut the budget deficit." Well that's nonsense what they did historically and you have inflation cost of living indices go back literally couple centuries The whole concept behind the CPI was to measure the cost of maintaining a constant standard of living. So that you could use, for example, you might take a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, a gallon of gas and say a pound of steak. You'd price those out in one year

24:38 Then he'd price them out the next year and whatever that basket had gone up by would be the increase in the cost of living. What Greenspan argued was that, well, that's not the way to do it. Again this is where most people view it. It's a way it had been for centuries. He said well if people find that price of steak goes up they're going to buy more chicken or hamburger and they do that then their costs of living isn't rising as much But guess what? I don't view eating hamburger instead of steak because they can't afford the steak as maintaining a constant standard of living. The whole idea of introducing substitution there knocked a couple percentage points off, and then they changed the quality assessment of things. They had computers adjust quality on things that people really don't notice. Okay let me see if i understand what he's saying

25:40 He's saying that when the inflation goes up, people eventually Resort to cheap shit. Mac and cheese, something like that? Yeah, exactly was that kind of the argument was made in this was in the 80's because new gingers decided that hey, social security people we keep jacking up when we have to send them is there any way we can knock this number back to CPI consumer price index right now it's numbered down Somehow so we don't have to keep giving social security recipients more money.

26:22 I laugh, but it's funny. That's what they did! But they did it with this cheating... Oh well look your standard of living hasn't changed any you're just eating chicken! You're eating... John that now we understand bugs bugs now we know why bugs is coming. And oh those wool sweaters? Cotton will work yeah but this this is the whole theory behind bugs Yeah, eating bugs. Yes your standard of living hasn't decreased because you have to eat cockroaches Cockroaches John it's a protein Yummy everybody that's what happens

27:17 With your, uh... Tastes like poop. Inflation. That's what I thought that-I didn't realize it. I kind of knew some of this but I didn't know the substitution angle which i thought was genius! It's a great angle yeah Yeah Hey you're still eating meat? You're still eating bugs to get your protein We went from big American cars and then we got you know, plastic Japanese cars which eventually turned out to be really good. And now it's like well I can't really afford the Japanese car let me go back to the cheap-ass American car yeah a Geo. The Geo! I raced in a Geo did ya now? Yes MTV we followed the Indy circuit one year and it was one year they had the race in Denver the street race in Denver

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Geo Storm Racing, MTV Celebrity Event

A host recounts a humorous story about participating in an MTV celebrity street race in Denver driving a Geo Storm. The anecdote describes crashing into a wall during the race and the subsequent embarrassment of watching the footage, where the car appeared much slower than it felt from the driver's seat. The story is prompted by the previous discussion on "cheap" consumer goods and substitution.

geo storm· mtv· denver· street race· celebrity grand prix

28:08 And they had the celebrity race and it was on a grand prix or IndyCar Grand Prix style thing. Well, if it's on the streets would be grand prix more than well indie. Well, it was the cars whatever it was the same cars yeah. Except for you, you had a Geo. Yeah! So it was like the guy- the drummer from White Lion Johnny Gill You know I'm sure one of the Motley Crue guys was there and I had the in car camera...I gotta find that footage because Of course I went around the corner and crashed into the wall and kept going. You did? Oh yeah The stick shift had come up about two feet but otherwise it still drove

28:46 But the commentary, because when you're in the car and you skidding around or hit the wall and bounce off it feels like wow man this is spectacular. Then you see the footage on TV and the commentators are literally like what? Because of Geo! You know how slow it looks then? It looks like I'm a grandma who's lost control And the guys who were gonna call the official race like oh, there's Adam Curry from MTV. Oh mm okay Like dude can't even hold on to the wheel My geo story there you go Geo story I have one clip which i think is important for Something that has dropped off the radar a little bit here in the united states of gitmo nation Which is the wall? The president's wall

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

US Code 284, Military Border Wall Construction

During a congressional hearing, Representative Mo Brooks questions Undersecretary of Defense John Rood about 10 U.S. Code Section 284. This specific law authorizes the Secretary of Defense to construct roads and fences to disrupt transnational organized crime and drug smuggling without requiring a national emergency declaration. The hosts suggest President Trump may use this existing legal authority to fund the border wall using the Pentagon's budget, bypassing congressional stalemates.

mo brooks· john rood· southern border· drug trafficking· national emergency

29:37 And we know that what has happened now is he has caved. He said, oh negotiate We'll talk about it you know he's threatening a little bit there with his state of emergency and of course judges everyone's getting like all this can't happen You can't do this Just a lot of noise because weather is noise and I think I know what his plan is then It came out in a hearing congressional hearing with Representative Mo Brooks, I think he's from Alabama and he was questioning the Undersecretary of Defense John Rood about a very specific law which explains when you listen to this it's about a minute and a half

30:20 which explains the president's consistent push about the drugs that are coming across without a wall, the drugs. I think there was you know there's a couple of big fentanyl busts although they may not have been outside of the course of entry right so there's... Right? So there's a very specific law and it's explained here and then we can walk through some of the details. I want to direct your attention to 10 United States Code 284 which authorizes President Trump to deploy the military to the southern border, to build fences and do a lot of other things. And for clarity if you look it up in the dictionary, the word fence includes the word barrier and the word barrier includes walls made out of a variety of different materials

31:05 So that having been said, it seems to me that 10 U.S. Code 284 can be used by the President of the United States to direct the United States military to build a wall Now as of today you've mentioned military forces along the southern border Have any of them been deployed pursuant to 10 USC 284? Congressman, I don't believe any of our forces have been deployed pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 284. You are correct however that that use of authority would authorize the Secretary of Defense to erect barriers roads fencing what those type of materials to disrupt drug smuggling does 10 US excuse me 10 USC 284 as you understand it require the declaration of a national emergency before it is implemented

31:53 No. It does not? No Has President Trump, to your knowledge ever used 10 USC 284 to direct the military to build the wall that is necessary for border security No, not to my knowledge Congressman. If President Trump were direct the Pentagon United States military pursuant to 10 USC 284 to build such barriers as are necessary to secure our southern border from drug trafficking and international crime cartels would the United States military obey that order? if we judge it to be a lawful order yes sir And I assume it would be.

32:50 support for counter drug activities and activities to counter transnational organized crime. And just to give you an idea, the Secretary of Defense may provide support for the counter drug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime of any other department or agency of the federal government or any state local tribal agency if I need the purpose is set forth in the following subsection so the president can call upon this and indeed What can be done with it is quite broad. Let me see, here we have... hold on I just messed that up yes here's the

33:30 Well, just types of support. We have the maintenance and repair of equipment that's been made available okay preserving potential future utility maintenance or anything transportation of personnel in the United States and foreign countries and the transportation supplies and equipment so this is what the Defense Department can do when asked at the establishment and operation of bases of operations are training facilities for the purpose a facilitating counter drug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime We have detection, monitoring and communication of the movement of air and sea traffic within 25 miles outside the geographic boundaries. Surface traffic construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries establishment of command control communications and computer networks for improved integration of law enforcement active military a National Guard aerial and ground reconnaissance I mean it

34:27 goes on and on. All you have to do is say, it's just a setup. We've been set up! Bamboozled! Now I want to ask a couple of things here... Now, obviously this whole thing was theater for the purposes of hey we already did it in a hearing. You should have been paying attention. Where were you morons? And so the mainstream media of course doesn't pick up on this only The No Agenda Show does Why would they that doesn't sound right now They're still talking about national emergency particular section of the US Code was put in place. Does it have a date when this was actually made into law? Let's see, let me see... source credit what do we have maybe Of course these things change over time which is I'd like to know when it was initiated. I see a lot of 2016 quite honestly just looking here

35:23 These are when changes were made. I don't know which ones, but a lot of changes were made in December of 2016 You caught me off guard? I need to look at that well I wouldn't expect you to be expecting that question But I'm guess if it's 2016 yeah We've been bamboozled no wonder he was so confident Now, I'm sure that the Ninth Circuit and everybody else will just be all over this. Hey it's been sitting there for two years you didn't do anything about it! Better than that is because its in law you can't just go change it. It has been codified as they like to say. And from what I could tell there's no real budget

36:14 The only thing... Yes, the military budget comes right off the top. The Defense Department all they have to- yes! Right off the top. They get the US Army Corps of Engineers a lot and those guys are sitting behind desks as we speak. It's a rounding error. Umm.. They do have to make a report to Congress and say here is the budget that what were going to spend let me guess about 5.7 million Stage one, but just change it. Just say okay well this is why you hear him going towards drugs drugs drugs the drugs the drugs the drug right and he's been saying this from day one so I think you're right i think This was set up It was...I have to look at the history of the bill maybe One of our trolls can do that when the producers in the troll room all right

36:57 See if there's any significant changes made. Maybe it's been around forever, I don't know but it looks like there's a lot of... And I doubt it! Don't you love it? Wow! Yeah again everyone flat-footed yeah well he gets to make the point that I think here's couple points you'll make he says well you know we We had to do a government shutdown. They still wouldn't agree to the wall so we can credit them with the wall under any circumstances and we lost $3 billion in unrecoverable something costs right to do the shutdown and that three billion could have been put toward the wall if these Democrats would have just played ball here. Yeah I mean it's playing a long game if this is the case which is, it's a good game to play well what other game is there? It's so much better than an international emergency this has clearly set out you just say oh got it got a cop I mean transnational organized crime

37:58 The coyotes you could argue are that yes, it's transnational. It's organized and it's a crime Yeah, it's not El Chapo but it's a crime no so at the level of El Chapo hmm exactly so Very good I'll give you like No, I don't know nah. That's not done. I mean if y'all is a good clip yeah Well, I was on them on this switchback You mean, you mean... What do we call it? We used to call that the whip saw. The wraparound switchback whipsaw Whipsaw So there was a good example I thought was the most shameless and probably Explain what a switchback is just so Okay this is where you say And today Adam Curry admitted that he hates dogs

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Hallie Jackson, NBC News Switchback Reporting

The hosts deconstruct a report by NBC's Hallie Jackson regarding President Trump's public disagreement with his intelligence chiefs. They identify a reporting technique they call the "switchback reach-around," where a reporter makes an assertion and then plays a clip that doesn't actually support the claim. The segment analyzes how NBC uses soundbites from Gina Haspel and Adam Schiff to create a narrative of "dangerous" presidential behavior regarding North Korea and Iran.

hallie jackson· nbc news· intelligence community· adam schiff· media bias

38:57 And then I, and then here's a clip of him. Now go to the clip of you, a quote from going hey, I don't hate dogs! No, I don't really hate them something like that Yeah anything Anything that has nothing to do with what i just said So I say one thing It's extra points if I'm talking about a completely different topic Right or you're saying yeah I like cats Exactly You know something It's put in there to fill up the report and to solidify in your brain the information they're giving you, which is marginally correct.

39:35 I consider it dishonest reporting. And this is coming from you, a reporter, a journo X? Yeah, I was actually at some level but it's dishonest. So we have example after example of this and it seems to depress some of our producers but- But I love it! I like it anyway. This is Hallie Jackson who's one of the best at this doing a piece because they had this left hand picked up on Trump's Intel advisors all disagreed with everything he's ever had to say. Yeah, what the heck was this? I mean they just said let's give it one more try boys!

40:14 I don't know what it was because it was out of the blue is one of the many things that he doesn't listen to advice. I guess as part of the Trump rotation or he's a headstrong and he's got these great intel people and he doesn't think, of course they're out to get him which I think is one good reason not to believe anything they say but which I don't think helps their cause much So Hallie has not, what I'm gonna play is a series of clips that are continuous but I'm only chopping them up to show the switchbacks. Okay and so it's going to be seems little herky jerk but in fact if you put them all back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back all five of these short clips they would be the report and so i'm gonna start off with clip one and its gonna end with each one of this another example saying one thing and then exemplifying it with a quote

41:03 from somebody that doesn't really verify anything you've said. This is a... here we go. To his own intelligence chiefs publicly contradicting the president on his threat assessments of North Korea and Iran, the President lashing out, President lashing out telling them to go back to school and Hallie Jackson has that fallout The president calling the intelligence officials he hired passive and naive Suggesting in a tweet today. They go back to school after they publicly contradicted him not just on Iran I withdrew the United States from the horrible one-sided Iran nuclear deal at the moment technically there in compliance Besides the lashing out which is yeah giveaway code word, yeah

41:54 He said she brings up the she says that or Hallie says that they've contradicted him on his Iran pullout, you know he wants to kill the deal right and they quote Gina I think surname of the head of the CIA as saying that are in compliance with something. I don't know where that came from It's like what so what but on Isis we have sorry? I want to play that one clip again hold on Let me just roll back that last bit of the clip. Here we go. After they publicly contradicted him, not just on Iran... I withdrew the United States from the horrible one-sided Iran nuclear deal! At the moment technically they're in compliance Okay so what should have happened here is on Iran should have gone straight to Gina Haskell with her quote but instead they inserted Trump yelling his opinion on Iran

42:52 And then to be contradicted. Even if he didn't yell his opinion on Iran, what did... They're in compliance of what? The old deal? I have no idea! We don't know it's that hey it's NBC fact true Trumps dumb idiot orange man bad. Orange man bad Onward to two But on ISIS we have won against Isis we've beaten them and we've beaten them badly Isis is intent on resurging Intent on resurging Oh man, this is so good. They're intent on resurging... of course they are! Everybody's intent on resurging. They've really done a um.. This is a formatted this so whereas the switchback or the call back or the whipsaw used to be a clip of Trump saying something

43:39 No, no. It used to be somebody making an assertion that a reporter says this then they play that right? But now they're doing two together! This is more advanced because this makes it even worse she says this Trump then says kind of something along the lines of what she said and then they have the switchback quote that has nothing to do with it Well we have to call...it's like a switch back reach around because it's too next ...that's what we're calling it from now on SBRO, the switchback reach around because that's what it is. So we have Hallie coming up with one thing and then okay so let's go on to number three might be a better example. On Russia

44:20 We expect Russia will continue to wage its information war against democracies. Wait a minute, I couldn't hear what the first part was It was just something about Russia's you know is it would they didn't have a good Trump clip that time so they played that muddy clip you heard we can play it again as Russia What is it? I don't know! It's just some muddy clip of someone saying something Russia Yeah And then they have the other guy saying, do we think that Russians are going to continue their attack on democracies using you know computers? Yeah if we were in the meeting we would have both said okay. We like it but not that one just got it You gotta kill your darlings one of these has to go this is not the best switchback reach around you've done What's her name again? Hallie Jackson. Hallie, Hallie It's not so good So we'll drop that one

45:12 Well, let's go to four. And on North Korea... North Korea is working out very well The capabilities and threat that existed a year ago are still there Behind the scenes multiple sources tell NBC News intelligence officials felt frustrated by the president's tweets and debated a response but in the end decided that would be counterproductive so stayed silent Republicans did not It's the best we have and of course we need to rely on them Man! Now this was advanced Because hold on they start with Trump and on North Korea. North Korea is working out very well, okay? just Orange man bad can't believe he said that how can you say this and then capabilities in threat Existed a year ago are still there behind the seat is that morale it sounds like morel who was no No I think it's the Navy guy but it was like

46:04 He says, yes of course they do because the deal none of this has been finalized. He's working with North Korea so how is this a kind you know I don't get what they're trying to get at here yeah it all this just to me its unbelievable listen then they bring out this Republican who really says nothing at all The capabilities and threat that existed a year ago are still there. Behind the scenes, multiple sources tell NBC News intelligence officials... I like the behind-the-scenes multiple sources ...felt frustrated by the president's tweets and debated a response but in the end decided that would be counterproductive so stayed silent Republicans did not It's the best we have and of course we need to rely on them. It is the best we have therefore we need a realignment

46:52 So she makes the assertion that the intelligence crowd wanted to do something about Trump's tweets and then they didn't. Of course, you can always say great reporting but you got nothing. And then, but the Republicans didn't stay silent and they bring some Republican guy out who doesn't really say anything at all. And I'd hardly say that's an exemplification of the Republicans shaking their fist so she finally gets to wrap it with what they wanted to do all along which was kind of bring out Adam Schiff shift the tone. And let him say something." And the Democratic head of the House Intelligence Committee warned rhetoric like the President's is downright dangerous. My advice to the president is you've got the best intelligence agencies in the world, listen to what they have to say when you ignore them you do that at our country's peril. Hallie Jackson NBC News The White House Yes we're going to die

47:47 Well, she says he's he says it's downright dangerous. He never says it's downright dangerous. He kind of hints that is not a good idea So this was just to me Poor well It was dishonest To the nth degree and I believe NBC has the most dishonest reporting Of all the networks and I think you see that on MSNBC The whole...I'm surprised they haven't gone after Comcast You know its This is just very dishonest And what I think is happening here is, you know obviously the intelligence community which is not certainly not all of people who work in intelligence but these pencil pushers at the top they all like they hate Trump. They work for a different group of shadowy bankers and the other ones and so

48:40 And they sit there and they try and pull all this apart by having this transparent hearing. But for the news media, it's very boring and they don't really have time to play anything in context so instead of like what we would do is like play you know, like-like-like, pay two minutes of Representative Moe over there about this law They chop it up into these 20 second sound bites with your whip saw switchback reach around You just wind up being confused and thinking and they're trying to make it entertaining I guess or just trying to ram home the met. It's really soundbite reporting to a dramatic to try to make it dramatic by Definitely dramatizing something is for the purposes of entertainment exactly, that's why tell story tell stories Tell a story tell us story tell us story. Tell us story. Hey you doing Wizard of Oz pretty good

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Kamala Harris, Presidential Campaign Launch

Senator Kamala Harris officially launches her 2020 presidential campaign with a speech in Oakland and a CNN town hall. The hosts compare her speaking style and "arrogance" to Hillary Clinton, noting her history as a District Attorney. They specifically critique a segment of her speech where she asks "Who are we?" and provides the circular answer, "We are better than this," which they label as "dingbatty."

kamala harris· oakland· willie brown· cnn town hall· pantsuit

55:46 I think it was after the last show, Kamala Harris. She pronounces it Camila. Okay well, Camila like Pamela? Yes that's why she's doing that okay. It used to be Kamala yeah okay well she announces she's going to be running for president and then she went on one of those great CNN scripted town halls Yeah, where everyone has their question ready. You know they're not gonna talk or ask her about her affair with Willie Brown By the way when you look at her...you see the pantsuit? You see that when she claps her arms are fully extended palms flat very good Very good! Like she's like she's clapping for a seal or something yeah

56:31 Hillary 2.0 yeah, no she's got all the earmarks of Hillary she is copying her complete Hilary 2.0 it's understandable Hillary who I've never considered to be a very good speaker because she speaks every word as a single word and this Kamala woman doesn't quite now look she doesn't even got that much skill allow me to say something I think she's got a lot going for her. Not from my, obviously my personal perspective but she's good-looking, she does have a good rap, she's got all the arrogance you need She really has a great air of arrogance superiority about her. District Attorney Arrogance? Yes! Oh yeah because she has a badge You know she can throw people in jail She is very powerful as a district attorney

57:26 Yeah, she's... Hey you got a badge? Man I'd be walking around little more cocky. No matter what it is you've got a badge right baby? You've got a badge." So she says a lot of crazy stuff but i was listening to her speech the Oakland speech and she does stuff like this is going to be our downfall I think okay she's well besides I think she used sex to get to the top With Willie Brown. Now, Willie Brown was... Willie Brown runs California. Wait really? He runs California? Pretty much Who the hell is he? He used to be the Speaker of the House State Assembly. Was a top guy and then he became Mayor of San Francisco and he brought her up

58:20 groomed her by giving her a bunch of jobs when they were kind of dating, even though he's married and when she was... He was 60-something. Scandalous! And she was 30 and then she got a bunch of appointments So you immediately accused her of sleeping her way to the top? Way too mansplained Dvorak Yeah Okay I do Alright And uh... Right And Brown came with mayor and then the mayor after him was I believe Gavin Newsom Anyway, the whole thing, the whole problem is really Willie Brown's got a lot to do with it. But he is a very powerful character and knows where all the bodies are buried and knows everything about California. I've talked to him a couple of times. He's around and about you see him? And he'll chat with ya!

59:06 Have you chatted with him? Yeah, I've chatted with a couple of times. I just run into them Oh Well, you'll see if you go to really good restaurant once in awhile there he is and you could just you know You see Romerine chat with him. Yes You go over they say hey Willie How was that piece asshole yeah well you don't do that okay now so this but I think the bigger problem is I think she's a dingbat and And this dingbat comes through with this particular, she's given a speech and this is an excerpt from the speech where she asks a question and then answers it. I am going to play it in two parts. I got her asking the question for 15 seconds and then her answering it. You explain what the answer really means? At first I would like to say that official definition of dingbat

59:59 Stupid or eccentric person so I think I think you're right on both counts Because we must answer a fundamental question all right, who are we? Who are we as Americans So let's answer that question Who are we who are we as Americans okay? That is Has kind of a it's an essay question isn't it? It's not multiple choice. Yeah, but she's gonna answer in a kind of an offbeat way I'd say but who are let's remember the question is who are we as Americans part two okay Let's answer that question to the world and each other right here And right now

1:00:52 America, we are better than this. You know even though I've heard this speech I didn't never really deconstruct it like that who are we well were better than this yeah hooray and then the crowd goes nuts yeah we love that Hmm. Yeah, whatever it is we're better than this that yeah Who are we were better than this? That's who we are we it's wait a minute You left something out lady That's funny so then she did the CNN town hall and She had

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CNN Town Hall, Male Feminist Question

During a televised town hall, a male audience member asks Kamala Harris how to respond to people who claim a male nominee has a better chance of defeating Donald Trump. The hosts mock the question as extreme "virtue signaling" and "mansplaining," suggesting the questioner was scripted to help Harris appeal to the Democratic base.

cnn· town hall· virtue signaling· mansplaining· 2020 election

1:01:40 where she was taking questions. These things, well we know they're scripted because Matt Lauer the start of the downfall of Matt Lauer is when he deviated from the questions with Hillary as you'll recall and she got quite angry there's no proof of what was said backstage but then Matt Lauer is now between U67 and U69 somewhere on the UHF television band It's there. So they bring it, so she does a little... Podcast her. Woo! That's quite a drop. He's not even that So they bring in these people who are given questions and you know, they just read their question. And this I thought was very well done it was another get the crowd all riled up and excited hooting and hollering question. Senator many Democrats that i've spoken with agree that the primary objective for 2020 is to nominate the candidate that has the best shot of defeating Donald Trump

1:02:38 Some have also said that given what occurred in 2016 and the current political climate, that a male nominee will have a better chance this time around than a female nominee. Would you please respond to this so that this man has a response ready the next time a man tries to mansplain why a man would make a better nominee? Yeah! Manscreen! Men go home! Fent that is you could not virtue signal any better than that guy just did he's easy. He got sex from somebody Yeah, probably another guy well Maybe it's irrelevant what I mean That was just hey I suck tell me how I make sure no one like me ever becomes president or whatever yeah And then surprising get the white thing in there now we followed Sandy hook and

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Sandy Hook, Kamala Harris Autopsy Photo Claim

Kamala Harris suggests that members of Congress should be forced to look at autopsy photographs of the children killed at Sandy Hook to influence their votes on gun control. The hosts recall the "odd" behavior of medical examiner Wayne Carver during the 2012 investigation and note the lack of public photographic evidence from the scene. They express interest in seeing such evidence if it were ever made available to representatives in a secure setting.

sandy hook· kamala harris· wayne carver· autopsy photos· gun control

1:03:36 The Newtown tragedy very closely and we feel that there was quite a lack of evidence I don't want to get into it too deep because it's just such a hot button But we've discussed at ad nauseum the in most interesting thing about Sandy Hook was the if you recall Wayne Carver He was the medical Which is what's the proper term? Examiner. Yeah, he was the chief medical examiner and you remember that press conference He did where he had no everything was contradictory had all the wrong answers Was talking about wrong weapons hadn't really looked at anybody hadn't done autopsies on all of the all of the victims It was really really odd

1:04:18 And one thing we know for sure, well here's what Kamala Harris says about gun laws and what she thinks should be done in relation to the Sandy Hook. Twenty six-and seven year old babies were massacred in Connecticut they failed to act Here is what I think...I think that somebody should have required and this is going to sound very harsh I think somebody should have required all those members of Congress to go in a room, in a locked room no press knowing nobody else and look at the autopsy photographs of those babies. And then you vote your conscience! This has become a political issue. I'm all for that

1:05:04 I'm really for that because as far as i know there are no photographs, there are no autopsy photographs. I would love for some representatives to go into a skiff, I presume see these pictures and then tell us what they saw That was one of the biggest problems with this thing is there's no photographic evidence of anything And then they lower it...they flattened the building Oh well hey It's what we do That's what we do with all Big tragedies like 9-11. The rubble was gone so quick So and this camera that would the camel a camel a camel camel? Camel a camel a camel a camel a camel a camel a camel So I was listening to Ben Shapiro who is going on and on about And we have mixed feelings about him on this show He was going on and on about the Willie Brown situation thinking it should be answered, and can't just say

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Ben Shapiro, Sarcasm in Political Broadcasting

The hosts analyze Ben Shapiro's use of sarcasm as a primary rhetorical tool, specifically regarding his coverage of Kamala Harris's past relationship with Willie Brown. They argue that Shapiro's constant sarcasm is "bad broadcasting" because it can be misinterpreted as factual statement by casual listeners. The discussion expands to how sarcasm has replaced genuine humor on both the right and left in social media and cable news.

ben shapiro· sarcasm· willie brown· broadcasting technique· outrage culture

1:06:05 I am becoming so disinterested. And I really don't feel like we can survive two years of this bullcrap. The American people, they're gonna turn TVs off Yeah! I think it's way too much way too early and Ben Shapiro should know better Okay Well Ben Shapiro is going on and on...and there is some basic reason why I do not like Ben Shapiro Because he is an outrage whore That just hit me He may be right But he's always on the outrage tip. He's not... No, he is a little bit like that I agree with him and i'm not going to argue about that but this is the thing that I think his problem. He has a problem and a lot of right wingers have the exact same problem And I only discovered it by deconstructing this stuff that he just did about her when he was going on and on about Willie Brown

1:06:55 is that, and he's not the only one who does this. And we kind of do it but we don't do it like these other guys do it? Right He uses sarcasm to excess Oh yes! You're right this is a trend I agree and its not well done No in fact its just very poorly done In fact ill take it one step further and say that it actually produces reverse messaging You know, before you play your clip... Hold on. Where is it? Here's that ISO because you're right! That whole baby Hitler thing was also kind of trying to be sarcastic but here's how it came out Would you kill baby Hitler and the truth is no pro-life person on earth would kill baby Hitler Because Baby Hitler wasn't Hitler Adult Hitler was Hitler Baby Hitler was a baby What you presumably want to do with Baby Hitler Was take Baby Hitler out of Baby Hitler's house And move Baby Hitler into a better house where he would not grow up to BE Hitler

1:07:56 That's one of the great clips we have, by the way. It is a great clip! Well this is a little more extreme than that and this is what he does all the time and a lot of guys do this all the time And when you just hear it straight up like I'm gonna play it...I'm taking all the context away How big is this clip? 24 seconds Okay, 24 seconds is a long clip And even without context, you just take the long clip. You start to see what the problem is when you use sarcasm constantly to make your points and let me conclude

1:08:35 it is that happens, is that you don't make the point. You assert something that should not be asserted and in fact you state something as fact if you don't hear the sarcasm it sounds like what this guy's nuts but let's play this I'll explain later. And she should have to answer questions about that and she shouldn't be able to shy away with answers like oh yeah I fell deeply in love with Willie Brown when he was 60 and I was 30. Yeah that's a thing that happens all the time There are lots of six-year old men. You know how many of them who are you know kind of middle class schlubs? Who aren't powerful men in politics are getting 30 year old up and coming law student girlfriends tons of them tons Just it happens all the time yeah Yeah, explain yes I totally understand what you're saying is sarcastic shit What he said is a lie yeah But he went what he was trying to do is be sarcastic about

1:09:28 the notion that she was, her and Willie make some sort of sense. But he didn't do that! He just decided to become sarcastic and make that crazy commentary and he ended it there. After it was over he didn't say, And I'm kidding of course because this never happens Right right right right... He doesn't do that!! He just assumes you get the joke of his sarcasm which is very poorly executed The guy's not a comic You have hit on something It's important to me, I don't know if it was important to anybody else. But yes this is the problem i have with Laura Ingraham With Sean Hannity with that horrible host who was on One America News kind of the cheap Tommy Lahren knockoff. Tommy Larren! Another perfect example The sarcasm

1:10:20 is so poorly executed and not necessary. And it's almost, um... It's condescending! Like, everybody knows this you know that don't you know this? You listening to me? You know that. That's kind of the feeling I get from it. And I think you're right about this. It is very, I agree 100% with everything he just said. It's condescending...it assumes that you are on the same wavelength. Yeah. Uh, it's never explained and most of all, it is unnecessary. Sarcasm is really a technique used for humor. It's very weak as uh…it's bad broadcasting

1:11:02 Yes, it's very bad broadcast. Even Limbaugh I don't believe does it No... It's the guys and gals that I don't listen to You're right! That's why I tune out If we disagree or if there is a question We'll actually stop talking about who was this? What do you mean? And by the way, it's not just... There are other groups like Pod Save America They do this all the time, and I think hey you know what what if we just everyone stopped that sarcasm stop with the sarcasm It's also something that is on Twitter. This is you know

1:11:44 This is so important what you've hit on here. Everybody thinks they're a comedian, and the way people who are not funny exude their comedic stylings is through sarcasm So sometimes it's kind of funny so we tweet that says well I reply to something well this didn't age Well It was funny the first 8000 times someone used it But in general, because the time is... you know you have limited character space or whatever people can't write anymore. They always throw in sarcasm and it's not funny It's not helpful. If you find yourself agreeing with sarcasm like this a lot You should check yourself

1:12:32 And you should say, oh wait a minute. I'm just... because it's negative! You're being pulled into sarcastic crap It's like a warning sign if you find yourself listening or watching a lot of sarcastic opinions Yeah, and all the right-wing guys and I think a lot of the lefties at that level that you mentioned. The Hannity's this guy This guy is the king of it because he uses it. I'd say half of his show is just sarcasm yeah And also shuts out any other thinking cuz you know if you have a different opinion then He said we all know that doesn't happen. You're yeah sure normal guys get 30 year younger

1:13:17 You know, it's like well maybe I have a different opinion but then I'm like well shoot. You know? Like I guess everyone knows it because he is even sarcastic about it! I must be an idiot! Yeah there's that... That's an element yeah Well, thanks. So I'm wondering when I play this...I would like to play that clip again by the way just so people get a clue Let's do that and then we have a comment Okay And she should have to answer questions about that and she shouldn't be able to shy away with answers like oh yeah I fell deeply in love with Willie Brown when he was 60 and I was 30 Yeah, that's a thing that happens all the time I know lots of 60 year old men. You know how many of them who are, you know kind of middle class schlubs who aren't powerful men in politics? Are getting 30 year old up and coming law student girlfriends tons of them tons just it happens all the time Yes, sarcasm is not even good Is that do we do employ a lot of sarcasm on this show? I don't think so I think or try to avoid it I think usually if no, I think we do I think we avoid it and probably I know If I'd try it you get irked

1:14:20 I think, I was just about to say if i do it you get irked so I guess we keep each other in check. Hey thanks friend don't make me look like a douche and the other thing is that there was sarcasm on this show It would be if it was done and it was humorous like Shapiro is not It would, the other person would laugh and that would give clue to the fact that it was a sarcastic comment. Not not a factual comment because the way Shapiro presents that little statement of his he says if you don't hear the sarcasm which is hard to do because he's kind of a machine gun approach to speaking if you don't notice it was sarcastic

1:15:02 You could take it as him telling what he thinks is the truth. And you could say to yourself, does this guy actually believe that? I don't know anybody that's 60 that's hammering any 30 year olds. This doesn't make any sense. Okay well then what else has he got to say? It's a problem. It's really it well. I shouldn't have said it now cuz you know The troll is gonna do it, but you can really it's like a reddit thing that's read it That's it's all sarcasm social media is sarcasm. It's not humor Its poor and it's not healthy how about that yes end with that

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Producer Contributions, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts conduct the first segment of producer credits, thanking Sir Carl of the Lavender Blossom for a $333.33 donation. Other major contributors include Sir Isaac, Knight of the Firearms Instructors, who promotes his directory website, and Lee Oliveris. The segment reinforces the "value-for-value" model, where listeners fund the show in exchange for the content provided, and includes various "jingle" requests and "de-douching" ceremonies for returning donors.

value-for-value· executive producer· sir carl· firearms training· donation

1:16:00 I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in condescending John C. Dvorak! Well...I can't find my tube so In The Morning To You, In The Morning It Will Ships And Sea All Them Boots On The Ground That Feed In The Air Also The Subs In The Water AND all the dames and all the knights ALL THE DAMES and ALL the KNIGHTS ALL the knights that are out there And In The Morning TO our very own trolls In the troll room, which is no agenda stream calm how many people we got in there today nice See we got a lot of people on the stream. Yeah We're about a thousand that's nice People always check in listen live hit the chatroom Which we of course know as the troll room drop their sarcastic comment drop They drop us our casted comment or to see if they can rile me up It's cool you know they kind of like

1:16:49 I guess it's everyone's way of being the president where he'll sit at home or if at home in the White House He'll tweet something. He sees a show up on TV three minutes later And I think that's what people in the in the troll room are trying to do and let me see you like an urk curry See, if he says something about it It's kind of the same mechanism. Urk Curry. Urk Curry. That's a good show title. Also In The Morning to Darren O'Neill Darren brought us the artwork for episode 1107. The title of that was Carbon Budget, and we had a hard time there was a lot of different things we were looking at I'm not quite sure what it was but... Yeah you can tell when Darren comes in to he Riley won the week before right

1:17:29 Right, and I think there's a competition between those two and maybe some of this is kind of like the competition Martin JJ Nick Doretta. Oh yeah And you know it's the real competition when they're complimenting each other after The show on Twitter for the person whose artwork did get chosen great work here's mine great work Doesn't submit a P a great piece 40 pieces eight pieces in one go all good Yeah Anyway, this was the NBC logo which he dubbed nothing but crap the peacock low logo It was just an it was a we also go for art. It doesn't always have to be funny Doesn't always have to be you know sometimes it can be just pretty just a pretty well That's the Rams head one was we picked it for that Ram said was yeah Sometimes it's just

1:18:17 for the art, but most importantly this is a part of the value-for-value system that we've created here. We're 11 years strong we're hundreds of thousands of producers everyone's a producer lots of people produce things like artwork or like jingles or clips just information. We have lots of stuff to talk about that from boots on the ground everywhere and, of course we also need producers who finance and that's the ones we'd like to thank right here in our executive producer and associate executive producer segment just like Hollywood we do it up front more or less It's not the end show credit, so we're very happy to thank the following people. Well the guy on top is the only executive producer that came in this show was Sir Carl of The Lavender Blossom 333.33 from Northville Michigan. Sir Cal? Yeah

1:19:06 At a recent Local 1 meetup, it has come to my attention that douchebags are amongst us. Please blast them all with the proper calls! He's got different people... ready? Oh he has a list okay yes he's got a couple two different ones Pat And Kelly of Michigan Local 1, I'm calling you out because... I care about you. It's a loving douche! It's a love douche! Love douche. Thanks SirCow. SirCowLavenderBlossoms.org for all your fine CBD products. Yeah it makes good product. Great operation

1:19:48 Go public. Sir up in Seattle, 233 dot 37 I've stopped show 1107 at 203 dot 40 and broken out the PayPal to make my biannual donation one month in advance based on the fantastic deconstruction of the government shutdown loan reporting scandal propagated by M5M That was in the last show. People should go back and listen to it, it was absolute dynamite! I would be shocked if your cup doesn't run over from the great work." Well... that's interesting isn't it? Yeah it is. Because it didn't. No, it didn't flow over but its okay. How disgusting these high paid media shills are you two should be getting all these M5M dumbholes aggregate salary. Well yeah we should. Can't disagree with that. But we were

1:20:38 They may not be paid to be news people. To all who don't donate, just give a five spot it'll make a difference no jingles No karma for this donation just a hearty thank you and thank you sir up in Seattle appreciate that nice words Anonymous 209 90 now this was a Came with a note about Sir Greg and he this guy who revealed himself at some future point A lot of people gave $20.99 and it just started coming in, we had quite a few and we want to thank all those folks for doing that but he gave $209.90 and I want to thank him for his heartfelt note. Should I put that note in the show notes? You could yeah. Yeah okay well put it in the show notes at the top. It's good notice very heartfelt yes

1:21:35 He does have some, well he may want some. He does have some call outs for jingles and that you'll have to deal with. He says he needs a douche bag call out directed towards myself and his swift de-douching as I made my first contribution of $209.90 in honor of my amazing friend Greg. You've been de-douched! Now, I'd be absolutely furious with me. He would be absolutely furious to me if I remained as sad as I am so I encourage everyone to join me in true Greg fashion by taking a shot of bourbon lighting up a joint and saying to all may the force be with you if I could get any of Greg's jingles you can find but namely his Putin don't worry be happy which we're gonna fake news with the ping-pong ball and a classic karma for good measure keep up the good work

1:22:26 With the ping-pong ball. I never, I don't know what that one is. Fake fake fake. That's not it. Fake fake fake. You are fake news! This is fake news. No that's not it. Riding up some fake news Ah, wait. Trying to get cheap clicks and top page views Writing out some fake news I got it, I think That's a good one Ohhhhhhh It's propaganda time Fake news Made up false stories Fake news Unreliable sources Fake news Soundbites and snippets Fake News Fake News Fake News Fake News infects the left and the right

1:23:11 No, that's not it either. I don't know where the ping pong ball went. I feel bad now. You sure it's not the one where he gets some maybe some comment about fake news and Trump going bing-bing pong? No! There is an actual...I remember there was a ping pong ball that pops. Oh okay. We got a lot of good ones yeah, we do. We're loaded Well you can play the Putin don't worry wait Maybe it's this one This is the last one the last one we already played putin and don't worry be happy at the top remember oh right Nailed it there it is okay ah good worth it I don't even know that I ever heard that one yeah

1:24:04 Alright, he wants a karma at the end. Okay here we go. You've got karma Sir Isaac night of the firearms instructors 202 dollars and two cents. He's I believe up in Tahoe area I have to get a hold of him because i just want to take the kids up and go uh shoot give them some shooting. Does he do concealed carry licensing? I don't know Get the kids that! Uh yeah, yeah Mimi's got one

1:24:42 Of course you do. In Washington State, at least for now you can just go and sign up with your local police department get one. Oh you don't even need the class? They're passing some laws because the place has been taken over by Democrats and I have to actually show that you can use a gun We yeah we have uh...we have to take a class here Yeah And close to my sanity check for the best podcast in the universe, I don't know how so many people misunderstand you or John when you plainly explain how this show works such as Adam explaining why he likes AOC. I've been listening since the 200s and I've never thought you were a fan of Trump, AOC or any other nut job in any context outside of that person's utility for revealing how the media and political machine operates. I like Trump when he provokes the M5NM.

1:25:29 into showing their hand. I liked Hillary for the same reasons and i love the show for teaching me that, I sincerely think or thank you for your courage many people give up when they go up against such idiocy on a regular basis! I have a lot of respect for you two Can I please get a shout out for my website firearms training sent central dot com. Firearms training Central dot com directory for hundreds of firearms instructors across the US and around the world to you that's good great actually yes, the keeper and I would like to get our CC

1:26:09 So if you got an instructor, and the only here in Austin. You can get it at the range but it's on Sunday all these things are always on Sunday. And Tina has an actual job unlike me the podcaster so yeah if you can recommend an instructor very open to it To all you gun owners in Gitmo Nation, you need to take a training class. Adam I can recommend an instructor in Austin. Hello! Good excellent Jingles! Two to the head because it works and go karma for my business Yes sir. Knight of the firearms instructors You've got... Karma Was there because it works in there?

1:26:58 I don't have it because it works. Oh, there is a because where I remember it oh hold on I didn't realize that Because it works? I really don't remember this Okay, it works If you can't, if it's not there. It's not there. No I'm sorry. I just remember something Lee and maybe it's never been a good person Maybe he was saying two to the head works Yeah of course that's how I read it Two to the head because it works Of course it works You shoot people in the head twice and it works I thought that was because it works Lee Oliveris $200 and 2 cents And he just wants a bunch of jingles Trains good plus foamer Plus sucking in soot Appreciate your excellent work my dudes

1:27:42 Okay, let's see what we could- Karma or is it... It doesn't say karma. All aboard trains good planes bad Oh my god! Wooo! Listen to that horn! Suckin' and suck You've got karma A big Merv in Youngstown, Ohio comes in with $200 second to the last on this list. I want to apologize to both of you for I have been a freeloading man overboard douchebag." Well that ends today! Yes! I am back on track and caught up with all the episodes and starting to listen when they are available for download. Oh, I've realized that the show gives a nice balance to a heavy hectic work life and is starting to keep me sane again

1:28:32 I am traveling today to Dallas for a job interview on Friday and then with some company. I like the way he does this, and I kindly request that de-douching jobs karma and some milf karma never hurts doing what you do. This truly is the best podcast in the area. You've been D douched. That's one mother I'd like to have. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought... how much? A jingle fest, I tell ya

1:29:17 And finally, that was Big Merv. Yeah Finally Jackson Butler in Leveland Texas 200 please de-douche me and knight me sir J Do we have him on the Knight list? I think so Let's double check when we have two I believe I be weave we got to Yes he is He's on a list. He will be Sir Jackson night of his birthday list too You're asking me so much today. What's his name? Jackson, yes he is accounted for!

1:29:52 He's on the manifest. Please de-douche me because it is not highlight, well he is highlight on one side but not the other please do maybe oh no I see there's a light yellow there okay sorry please de douche me and knight me sir Jackson Knight of the transistors in honor my 40th birthday on January 30th jobs karma for all! Thank you yes we will be doing that later on see at the roundtable We do jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yucca Hanna 1108. Oh hey, guess what? We got two shows left it's gonna be 11-11, 11-11. Oh you're right! 11-11, 11-11, I love 11-11. I'm always seeing 11-11 on the clock

1:30:47 So you got to make a wish when you see the 1111. Thank you to our executive producers and our producer and our executive associate executive producers This is the value that we need desperately need to keep the show going thank you for that And we'll be thanking more of our producers $50 and above in our second segment, and we have another show coming up on Super Bowl Sunday. Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash N-A. And now that you have the definition of dingbat, go out there spread the knowledge and the formula! Our formula is this... We go out we hit people in the mouth. I should make one quick statement. Okay? Bernie Sanders is a dingbat

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Kirsten Gillibrand, Presidential Announcement Rhetoric

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's presidential announcement is critiqued for its "Oscar-style" passion and dramatic rhetoric. In a featured clip, she invokes Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. while accusing President Trump of inspiring "hate and darkness" and tearing the fabric of the nation. The hosts describe the performance as exaggerated and "dingbatty."

kirsten gillibrand· martin luther king jr· white house· hate· darkness

1:31:46 Yeah, I think yeah. Eccentric and stupid. Okay, I just wanted to get that out of the way because you do have any idea why i'd want to do that? Because you have a clip of Bernie Sanders saying something dingbatty? No he is a dingbat though because uh dingbat is considered at least around these parts A sexist term only referring to women Oh really it didn't say that in my dictionary Well you gotta get a newer dictionary Well then let's play a dingbat What was the definition again in California? It's a sexist term only applying to women. Oh good here is Kirsten Gillibrand well, yeah Another one and she did this speech for her announcement of her candidacy for president like an Oscar speech it was so passionate about

1:32:42 You only forgot to thank the Academy. Listen to this! Dr Martin Luther King Jr continues to inspire us every single day because he believed in a set of values that transcends time and movements. He knew that only light can drive out darkness, and that we are all called to fight for others until now. Until this person in the White House, until our president has chosen to tear

1:33:20 this country apart. On every line, every division, every racial line, every religious line he chooses to divide us community by community He has inspired a hate and darkness in this country that I have never witnessed myself! He is tearing apart the very fabric of who we are as nation very common decency and that is what we are being called to fight against wow yeah maybe a little exaggerated

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Howard Schultz, Independent Presidential Run

The media and Democratic Party react with "panic" to former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz's announcement that he is considering an independent run for president. A montage of news clips shows pundits claiming Schultz's candidacy would be a "gift to Donald Trump" and could "destroy democracy." The hosts compare the situation to Ross Perot's 1992 run and Ralph Nader's 2000 run, noting the intense pressure on Schultz to run as a Democrat instead.

howard schultz· starbucks· ross perot· ralph nader· third party

1:34:04 It's the Tad. Hey, and then we had... Geez get a grip! Yeah well no one is getting the grip because Howard Schultz as we know the Starbucks billionaire is going to run and he would be perfect We love billionaires, we love people who don't like Trump What? You're not gonna run as a Democrat? This was a problem for the M5M And, well I have to give them props. Supercuts did another compilage if you want to hear that of M5M freaking out about... Definitely A lot of Democrats are freaking out Absolute gift to Donald Trump Growing controversy swirling around the billionaire visionary behind Starbucks He could take away votes that would go to the Democratic nominee Handing President Trump a second term Many Democrats fear that could be disastrous Don't tell me about Trump!

1:35:04 Scares me. Yes, is that your entry into this race will guarantee Trump another four years number one Are you still a Democrat and number two? Why are you doing this even if it means hurting the Democratic candidate helping to reelect Trump and that's just awful thing to do. Running as a third-party candidate only helps Trump and maybe Putin two words for you just don't it doesn't get to be king just because he's so rich no I don't think should run votes are so precious as we saw last time I really do not think that this is the time for us to have an independent in this race would provide Donald Trump with with his best hope of getting reelected he doesn't quite grasp the depth

1:35:46 of the impact that decision would have. Donald Trump was not all that concerned about the Republican Party, he ran because of hubris Howard Schultz is suggesting he's gonna run and that is the same as he did. You do realize millions of people register as independent yet they still tilt one way or another I'm not for third party candidates that could hurt the Democratic ticket It is NOT the time 2024 is your year 2020 is NOT What he's doing right now I do believe it very dangerous we cannot allow this to happen you need to find new hobbies now some democrats are threatening to boycott starbucks really vanity projects that help destroy democracy are disgusting and he's there for the so he's there for the right reasons in your view without any party infrastructure any party backing i have respect for howard schultz if he chooses to get in the race i hope he gets in the democratic party we'll treat him very fairly since the last time this happened it unleashed a tragedy the likes of which the world has never seen

1:36:44 Oh, what a mistake. You foolish man you thinking that you can represent the people of America? You can but you have to do it the right way! You're holding it wrong. Yeah holding it wrong now there's a lot of incorrect noise certainly in the European reporting on this People are very baffled and I maybe in the US as well like wait a minute. I thought you only had two party system Well no We have, you can anyone can run to be president. The parties is to apartheid! That's where you get your power and your money from and so this is competing agendas You know I don't know why they don't bring up that Bernie Sanders isn't independent Yes he may and he got bamboozled into running as a Democrat He would have run but he was too good He wasn't getting us suckered it was too good So they had to screw him over

1:37:44 And that wasn't just the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Clinton clan, and The Hag. the Hillary assassination group, it was uh...it was the media. The media well that is Hagg I guess they completely ignored him they he had crowds as big as Trump so anyway now you have Howard Schultz Uh i don't-I didn't know much about his background um delighted to see that he came from The Projects? I didn't even know that He's got a great background! It's not like I recommend everyone come from the projects, but yeah he's...I mean for a guy who made himself a billionaire. American dream. His background is pretty hard to beat. There's no Donald Trumps dad involved. Yeah so he has everything going for him. I have not heard anything about his policies all i hear is bleh!

1:38:34 So I have no idea what he stands for. He's not getting asked any questions that are being shown anywhere of any importance It's just oh, he's wrong you're wrong man boycott Starbucks Try it let me see the Millennials boycott Starbucks they'll go into shock from withdrawal syndrome So sorry sorry Howard your you're from old America my friend Because if he does successfully run, I think people are right. It would split enough votes to give Trump the upper hand." Well you know... But crazier things could happen! ...I think he'd take a lot of votes away from Trump. Well of course that's the whole point but who will then be left over? And maybe this guy is going to be great candidate and you know iId like to know more about him. I'd like to see him speak and let the guy talk a little bit instead of pounding his head down immediately Yeah it's pathetic

1:39:35 I mean, Ross Perot was the last one. Of course this happened disastrous results or the world has never seen before because we got Bush know what now when that was with Bush? I thought that we I thought perot first ran against Clinton and HW and we got Clinton. Now I'm confused well Well then what are they What are they yapping about them that would be the strategy I thought that it was one of the guys who screwed up. Yeah, Troll Room confirms... I don't know what they're talking about Perot. I think they're talking about Nader. Yeah but Troll Room confirms Ross Perot gave us Clinton Well that's the model right there then! What's their problem? Yeah one billionaire...I think that's what Schultz is even thinking Huh

1:40:29 Well, so it there's no their reference. It was not they never said perot Oh, I thought i thought about nadir. Ah see? I didn't know this ralph nader ran and he's the one who gave us bush Okay that wasn't in the country at the time That's why i'm a little there's holes in my memory There that's fine as nobody right but so it's in dis is disingenuous to say it was disastrous where it worked really well another time I think everyone was pretty happy with clinton when he uh, when he got him Yeah, I love clinton I love Clinton, you love Clinton. There's a song there. Yeah don't worry it's time code. It'll be in some mix in your future well that's odd because

1:41:18 What is it? Just shut up. No one has a... they don't have a candidate, does it so important that it has to be someone who's a member of the Democrat Party Is that unthinkable too I mean isn't just the idea get Trump out no matter what Who cares nothing could be anything is better than Trump Isn't that the general idea They should glom onto this guy What is the party these days I have no idea. I'm looking at these headlines though, why Shultz is the new Ross Perot? Howard Schultz would not be a spoiler for Democrats the way Ross Perot was for the GOP. Could Howard Schultz be the next Ross Perot? Nobody's talking about poor Ralph Nader! No... Umm..I'd like to switch topics to Venezuela for a moment we have a number of boots on the ground reports

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Venezuela Crisis, Boots on the Ground Reports

The hosts present "boots on the ground" reports from producers regarding the political crisis in Venezuela. The reports claim that Nicolás Maduro's government is effectively run by Cuban intelligence (G2) and that the 2018 elections were fraudulent. Juan Guaidó, the President of the National Assembly, is recognized by the international community as the legitimate interim leader. The segment details how Maduro stripped the opposition-led Congress of its power in 2017.

venezuela· nicolas maduro· juan guaido· cuba· national assembly

1:42:10 We got quite a few actually. I have some official clips. Yeah, but before we get to that just to set the stage a little bit... See, I love that we were talking earlier about Venezuela's oil on a previous show. But Venezuela's oil and...I'm not quite sure what came out of our mouths but ultimately yes the Venezuelan oil is in fact heavy high sulfur crude it's not the light Bolivian crude and the refineries here in the US are kind of set up to mix that with our much lighter crude. No, to get it through the pipes

1:42:53 But we get this from one of our knights, Sir Ryan the Refiner. And I've checked his credentials he absolutely knows what he's talking about so... And i will mention the reason you check his credentials because we think about six seven years ago we had some guy who claimed to be in the oil business on a rig. Yeah remember that guy? On a rig yeah but here is a brief summary We received multiple similar reports, boots on the ground people who live in Venezuela or other parts of Latin America. And I kind of liked how our first producer started off by saying hey you and John really don't know anything about Venezuela that's okay it'll expect you to but here is your boots on the ground. Executive summary In Latin America what has been going from the 60s to present day as a battle between civilized world and Castro in Cuba with help from Russia

1:43:51 I don't think there's any dispute about that. All guerrilla movements in Latin America have been and continue to be financed, trained and supported by Cuba and the Cuban G2 now with Venezuelan money Today Venezuela is being run by Raul Castro and the Cuban G2 What's the G2? The Cuban G2 I don't know. I'll look it up while you keep reading Maduro legally cannot be the Venezuelan president because he was not born in Venezuela He was born in Colombia six years ago, the elections were stolen but because they intelligence agency Ah, thank you. Six years ago the elections were stolen but because they had money they bought the international silence that would be the M5M and everyone's complicit with that and military industrial complex oil etc got it in last year's fraudulent election most opposition candidates were either in jail or in exile

1:44:39 since they no longer had any money to buy the conscience of the world, the world said we don't recognize these elections. According to the Constitution, the elected president must be sworn into the National Assembly and that did not happen today. The situation is that there is no president who was elected properly because the elections were rigged so the President of the Assembly is according to our constitution the president in charge with a mandate to make new election processes as soon as possible Thanks to the efforts of President Trump and guys like Marco Rubio, with the support of the international community it seems that the days of the dictatorship in Venezuela are over. So in this case, yep believe or not, the US are actually THE GOOD GUYS! Now, he has a whole bunch of other things and points that he makes

1:45:27 This is very consistent, and I don't know if it's consistent because everyone who was emailing us is Some kind of agent and is giving us false information. I did those right? I pulled off of YouTube Joanna Hausman and she lives in Venezuela, and she gives a version of that backgrounder but better than I just did it short. 2017 the Supreme Court that was hand-picked by Nicolás Maduro's party nullified and stripped the National Assembly or Congress of their powers The National Assembly was chosen by vote and with the only government institution that was run by an opposition majority. Imagine when the Democrats took the house if Trump was like, no I don't like this anymore the House is no longer a legitimate part of government and here's another house that i made up with everyone that agrees with me

1:46:14 Americans would be furious. So too are Venezuelans. Venezuela erupted in protest, hundreds of protesters most of them teenagers were detained some of whom were tortured and murdered meanwhile despite these protests Maduro made his own Congress that he could control just like that Fast forward to May 20th, 2018 where this illegitimate Congress calls for presidential elections. Now during these elections the most popular opposition candidates are either jailed exiled or banned from running in other words there is no legitimate way for the opposition to run. So these sham presidential elections are held anyway by Maduro's government where only 20% of the population voted, however a lot of the 20% were public employees who were intimidated into voting by threats from the government These were called illegitimate elections not just by the Venezuelan people but by the international community Interim president Juan Guaido has been backed by the international community yes this includes the United States but do you know who else backs Juan Guaido that isn't Trump?

1:47:10 Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador Germany the socialist party that runs Albania Canada's progressive prince Justin Trudeau Australia Paraguay Peru The government run by the Socialist Party of Spain whose president said what is going on in Venezuela is the opposite of socialism. The list goes on now for sure This Guaido, this guy is one of ours. He's an asset there's no doubt about it But I think what is the script that is being followed here by the way we should mention he went to Georgetown Yeah, George not Georgia at Georgetown University spook school. That's okay book school It's one of the major spook schools yes, so this is not a typical but I think they're following the Trump script which he

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Trump on Libya, John Bolton Oil Strategy

A 2011 video of Donald Trump discussing Libya is used to illustrate his "victor belongs the spoils" foreign policy philosophy, where he argued the U.S. should have taken 50% of Libya's oil in exchange for intervention. This is linked to current National Security Advisor John Bolton's comments about securing Venezuelan oil assets for American companies. Bolton identifies Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua as the "Troika of Tyranny."

libya· john bolton· citgo· oil reserves· troika of tyranny

1:47:57 Interestingly, before he was elected and he was still running this is a video that he shot in his office. Remember when used to be in his Trump Tower office? And you know, he do crazy little videos then he had the eagle that tried to Kill him. And then he had the taco bowl and so this is one of his famous... I like Mexican food. Taco Bowl from Taco Bell. Good times, it was fun back then wasn't it? More fun than now. So he was talking about Libya and how Libya had been messed up we'd done at the wrong way

1:48:36 And it's not so forget Libya and what why it happened and just here's the simplistic straightforward thinking I believe is in play For the US and Venezuela clearly with our guy, but we have to go into save these lives. We should do on a humanitarian basis immediately go into Libya, knock this guy out very quickly. Very surgically very effectively and save the lives after it's all done we go to the protesters who end up running the country they're gonna like us a lot better than they will if we don't do it more importantly We're going to save lives and we should then say by the way from all of your audience

1:49:15 We want reimbursement. We should have said we'll help you but we want 50% of your oil They would have absolutely said okay a hundred percent in fact they would have said how about 75% so and Isn't it sad? We could have had anything we wanted, we could've had fifty percent of those oil fields You know the old days when you had a war it's to the victor belong the spoils So We could have had something special. When the so-called rebels came to us, we should have said, fellas were going to help you. We want 50 percent of your oil. They would have said thank you very much. We have a deal. Write it down. Sign it. We have a deal. We would've been a rich nation again. They have tremendous oil reserves in Libya instead. We help. We get nothing

1:50:11 We're very, very foolishly led. I think this is a that's your strategy and from a leadership position of the United States doesn't sound very globalist and world-friendly of me but we have two other parties if we don't do this then China is going to overrun Venezuela they are already in there they have deals that are not advantageous for anyone but China and they don't always play fair. The Russians who are in there mining, I think gold mainly, they have thousands of mercenaries as from the reports i'm getting who are in theirs. I don't know if that's true or what they'll be doing but you know it's obvious that this is the strategy and here is John Bolton

1:50:57 vicarious leaker on his yellow pad talking about the plan. We're looking at the oil assets, that's the single most important income stream to the government of Venezuela we're looking at what to do with that...we want everybody know were looking at all this very seriously! We don't want any American businesses or investors caught by surprise they can see what President Trump did yesterday and we are following through on it So if you think of a company like Citgo, which is owned by Pedevesa, which is the state-run oil company there in Venezuela. We have a lot of those Citgo assets right here in the U.S., Is that something for example sir that your looking at? Yeah well we're in conversation with major American companies now that are either in Venezuela or in the case of Citgo here in the United States

1:51:43 I think we're trying to get to the same end result here. You know, Venezuela is one of the three countries that I call the troika of tyranny It'll make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela it'd be good for the people of Venezuela, it would be good for the people of the United States We both have a lot at stake here making this come out the right way So that sounds like the plan. Troika of tyranny, Cuba Nicaragua Venezuela The troika of tyranny had not heard that phrase. So Bolton just as an aside John I've done some research on him some unrelated to this research now we know why a mustache like he has is called a porn stache

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Media Coverage of Venezuela, UN Ambassador Response

The segment contrasts U.S. media reports with a speech by Venezuelan UN Ambassador Jorge Valero, who "blasted" U.S. hypocrisy regarding international treaties and the border wall. NBC News reports focus on Maduro's financial "squeeze" and his claims that President Trump ordered a "hit squad" to kill him. The hosts reflect on the history of Hugo Chávez and his previous claims that the CIA gave him cancer.

jorge valero· united nations· nbc news· vladimir putin· hit squad

1:52:38 I mean, the guy is a little odd in his hobbies. Porn stash? Yeah he has a 70s porn stash. Totally! That's what it looks like. And there's something he knows... By the way i'm all-in on our uh the guy who gave us the original briefing that's in the refining business and it's possible he's in the information refining business As so many of our friends. He works for some information refining operation, but I would say that I'll buy that whole thing You know, I'd like this the central information refinery Yeah

1:53:21 central information refinance, sir. So being in the refining business doesn't seem to me to be so geopolitical but apparently it is now. But I buy that. I believe that he is someone who was designed to give us this information properly. Now we have it and yes, I agree with that totally by him. Yeah, I totally buy it. So I'm not having a problem with that information. I'm just questioning the real origins of it Now, we've had other people and I also think it's an assertion that we don't know what we're talking about about Venezuela is probably true at that level. And now that's been corrected. Yeah. It has been corrected in one show so it wasn't that we've been dragging it out So it is the central information refinery who we deal with? I like this! This is new which is very good Information Refinery Perfect. So they refined it and we got it Which is a plus

1:54:19 So let's listen to what the mainstream media has to say. Oh, yes! But let me before we play the quick Venezuela hit and by the way NBC made this a very quick 48 second hit I have the whole thing it's very short but before we do that lets us know 43 seconds at the UN the UN Venezuela ambassador blasting United States pulling everything out that he could. Venezuelan Ambassador to the United Nations Jorge Valero blasted the US's hypocrisy on Tuesday That's a little different than slammed and it is way different than lashed out. Blasted is... Buttslam! Venezuelan ambassador to the United Nations, Jorge Valero blasted the US' hypocrisy on Tuesday. What does this government want? This government that doesn't recognize treaty,

1:55:09 that doesn't recognize any of the agreements made around Iran and signed by various European countries, that launches a trade war with China, that threatens Russia with nuclear war, that attacks in a very sadistic manner migrants from Central America who arrive there. That has built a wall a criminal wall that sequesters children to make them suffer, children of migrants. And this government, this US government would have any moral authority to impose any diktat on Venezuela? Wow man he went to the wall! That's great! This guy let it all hang out I liked it but so here we're here is the quick vent...this is the update from NBC and

1:55:53 I think they just want to keep the public this much informed and no further. Tonight, massive crowds supporting opposition leader Juan Guaido calling for the ouster of Venezuelan embattled leader Nicolas Maduro It's a Cold War showdown. Guaido supported by the US and most Latin America challenging Maduro bankrolled by Russia appearing on Russian state television thanking Vladimir Putin Maduro even accusing President Trump of ordering a hit squad to kill him trying to show military strength U.S. officials again warning Maduro against any violence toward Guaido or Americans President Trump tweeting that he called Guaido and reinforced strong United States support This is not a US initiative, this is an initiative for which all the credit belongs to the Venezuelan people Tonight the White House is tightening the financial squeeze on Maduro blocking him from getting any revenue from his state-owned oil company Oh horrible! Orange man bad

1:56:50 Well, the Venezuelans that are refining information to us seem to be very happy with it. And noticeable is that none of them defend Guaido. They don't even talk about him. It's unimportant to them. Yeah. You know this narco state led by Maduro is pretty bad. Oh, it has been falling apart for a while. Yeah, I mean it started with Chavez when we tried to you know do deals with him And then he went nuts and started doing a TV show. Well remember Obama went over there hung out with him didn't he? Oh yeah, so did Charlie not Charlie Sheen but Sean Pan and all these people were hanging out with old Chavez. Yeah, and then as per Chavez the United States intelligence services gave him cancer and he died

1:57:50 That's what he was always saying. Yeah, he said that CIA gave me cancer. Is that what he said? Yeah! Oh it was... It's possible how old was him when he died I don't know Let's take a look I really don't know Not that old He was 70s Early 70s? Yeah Still... He died at uh... Hugo Chavez Funny looking guy Blah blah blah Now, we don't laugh at appearances here on the No Agenda podcast. Do you have it yet? How long is this taking? I'm sorry! Consult me book of knowledge! Okay he was born in 54 and died in 2013. They usually put his age but for some reason they don't do it with him so... He was 64 63 62 yeah wasn't that old. No 69 I think

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Moon Rocks, Earth Origin Theory

A news report reveals that a moon rock collected during the Apollo missions actually contains minerals like quartz and zircon that are common on Earth but rare on the moon. Scientists suggest the rock was launched from Earth by an asteroid impact billions of years ago and eventually landed on the moon. The hosts, expressing long-standing skepticism about the moon landings, find the "Earth rock on the moon" explanation suspicious.

nasa· moon landing· apollo mission· hadean time· moon rock

1:58:51 Or is 59? 59. He also... That's young. He also knew about the earthquake machines that we deployed, he talked about that a lot. You know weather modification and you know he was very open about what the tools that the elite didn't get to his birthday age 58. Oh poor guy yes A very interesting piece of information came to me as you know I am I have a hard time believing that we landed on the moon, and this is not going to be the whole segment about that. But there's enough things that point in the direction of no proof...

1:59:31 There's this issue with the Van Allen belts. You can look that up if you're interested I think the thing that bothered me the most is that 10,000 tapes including not just all the footage of the Apollo moon landing but also all the telemetry data Ten thousand ten thousand tapes were lost NASA doesn't know where they are yeah It's annoying And so over the years, you know you always look for I'm always looking for these little clues as to what other bull crap that we've been told about this if it didn't happen. It was just a couple of years ago that I think was the ambassador to The Netherlands who had been...

2:00:12 And then we had a moon rock was given either to the country or to the ambassador and it turned out that moon Rock was just a rock from Earth. Do you remember that story? There's I vaguely remember but you can't really talk about any of this without playing there a minute least for All right, well it's always the truth that is the strangest So now that's what I would do too though. If i'm giving away moon rocks which are worth millions of dollars, I would give a rock just a rock? I have a lot of rocks in my backyard. I'd wash one off and Right well you could work for NASA so now they discover There's a problem with one of the largest moon rocks ever collected in mission brought Moon Rocks back to earth Well now scientists have made an amazing discovery They think some of that

2:01:03 of The impact sent rock hurtling through Earth's primitive atmosphere where it collided with the surface of the moon. Back then, the moon was three times closer to Earth than it is now. Researchers say that rock which is similar to granite contains feldspar quartz and zircon common on earth but not in

2:01:40 the moon. When researchers took a closer look, they discovered the rock is from the Hadean time which shaped the solar system during the first billion years it's thought the rock formed about 20 kilometers below the earth surface The extraordinary find means there could be other little bits of Earth scattered on the moon A discovery that could help paint a better picture of Earth's earliest days Call me skeptical Yeah, there it is just feeding into your It's feeding you, it's feeding you. I need more of this information." We get slammed by an asteroid about once every 75 million years or 100... There is some cycle involved with that apparently there is one of the guys one of the big shots one of the superstar physicists up at Berkeley Livermore labs or whatever Berkeley Lawrence Berkeley Labs LBL

2:02:29 has this theory and because of the nature of the die-offs, because I guess as our galaxy goes through some other galaxy once every...once in a while. It's goes through an asteroid belt we get pelted in it kills everything. Oh yeah! Dinosaurs is the last time when this happened And it kills most of mankind. I mean, we have all these issues that we get these kill offs if the New World Order elitists aren't trying to kill us then the asteroid will happen anyway But they don't feel like waiting for 75 billion years They want to do it now because they think they can run things with their planned economies anyway

2:03:10 So it's possible that this far-fetched story is true. Yeah, sure okay? It's good I just said I'd like the central information refinery to at least inform me before I die Just say curry you were right That'll just be that's all I need don't you would you rather meet some of the aliens that they have oh? Oh, I went through that scam already Remember that I was gonna meet the area and we're gonna meet one who was just a weird dude yeah with pasties Oh, gee. I totally missed the signals Why are you touching my... okay alright Yes we have to raise our vibrations together Okay You're the alien!

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Austin Meetup Announcement

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Adrian Drenkhan and Jackson Butler, who have contributed over $1,000 to the show. They announce an upcoming "No Agenda" meetup in Austin, Texas, on March 2nd at Austin Beer Works, and another in Des Moines, Iowa, on February 22nd. The segment includes birthday shout-outs for various community members and mentions the distribution of signet rings to new knights.

no agenda knights· signet ring· austin beer works· meetup· des moines

2:04:08 All right, we have a short list. We have a few people that helped us out here starting with Sir Sean in Mayock North Carolina or Mayock North Carolina $100 Charles Schultz 8008 Jonathan Rose 8008 he's an Illinois and there's only 8008 on here, but I did have an Easter egg on the last newsletter He says missed it. Did you clicks on the Mossad agent meme? And discovers boobs Israel uber all this Love you guys sir John oh That's what John of Israel that's funny yeah Of course the guys in is your like hey Mossad click

2:04:54 He's not in Illinois, he is in Israel. The IAL is for Israel. Yeah he was in Netanya. It worked that was a really good one! So if we entertain one person per newsletter I'm happy? Yeah well that's the old theory of everything William Durkin $80 dollars he has an email that we should read I suppose but you know I don't have it in front Brian Klimczak in Naperville, Illinois. He is in Illinois, 75. Sir Alan of Midlothian, 6173. He would like more details on Adam's life. Examples? Why where and how did he learn to fly rotary winged aircraft I'd like to know it seems very suspicious to me that he ever learned anything. Did he really own and drive a Rolls Royce in the MTV days yes

2:05:48 Why did he drive it? Well, because I could afford it. Shouldn't have had people for that. No, why'd you drive it? Why didn't you have people drive it? I couldn't afford people to drive it for me He was CEO of some company yes Think New Ideas. Well, I was CTO of think new ideas but founder took it public in 96 people don't know any of that stuff He was rich for a while. How long? What is he trying to... what, did he write in a book? He was rich for awhile! How long?! How did he become poor? Well back to the rotary back to flying helicopters. You get to the point of this show when he says John stop blowing on that recorder until you've made some effort to learn how to play. What!? No that's really mean. Wait a minute that's an insult I play this thing like it-I mean i'm i'm the Benny Goodman Hit It Baby

2:06:41 See we're a well-oiled machine. Yeah, no kidding Anonymous 8608 the lopsided guy it's Sela fism not so lawfism Oh really sell if is I died? No, that was a lot of this That's what I thought too. I know it was so cellophane cellophane that doesn't sound right. I need some I need some backup

2:07:20 He says he's the Salafi, the Salafi listener who is no longer a douchebag. Not well... If he is the Salafi I mean the... Salafi? Okay we need some more input from our dude named Mohammed and there are plenty of them. Yeah bring it! I thought it was Sal... Okay, well we do have a cell office on. That's good he's keeping tabs on this. Sir Knight of the Blue Water Area 5689 and that's uh he also mentions sir Greg Davies there. A lot of Greg tributes Robert Bruckner 5555 Jacob Hagen 5510 Baron Boba High Point 5510

2:08:05 Stephen Schnelker, I think in New Haven Indiana 5510. Then we have James Moore in San Pablo California. Hey, San Pablo one of the best run little cities in the Bay Area so Mexican city or Mexican Latino Latin X yeah It's a great but you go there. It's like clean this it seems like it's very well managed I swear these Latin X especially compared to Richmond James Moore lives there David Oliver in Calistoga, California 51 now How does how does Calistoga compared to San Pablo? Oh

2:08:42 Calistoga, beautiful little town north of the northern part of the Napa Valley. Wine making town they got hot springs and go there as a lot it's kind of a tourist place. Hot Springs and loose women! Dynamite Place. Baronet Sir Economic Hitman in Houston Texas 5001 The following people then are $50 donors name and location if we have it including Eric Dutro in Flint Michigan Michael, I'd like to get some reports from Flint. Yeah how's the water? Michael Wingate in West Allis Wisconsin David Becker parts unknown. He said I love it when you guys talk about technology

2:09:28 And then a short list. We're done with it. I know I eat she kid agawa over here in San Francisco Oh, that's nice the last $50 donor and he does it through a check through some system and that's that's that okay very short list today I'm very disappointed especially after that great deconstruction you did of the Whoever was that complimented you earlier. Yes, and we did have a number of 2099 but because they're under 50 We're always very careful so we don't want to quite as you know self-generated Well, there wasn't that many. One two three four five six seven eight... There were eight? Yeah nine. It's appreciated and everyone who supports the program in our value for value system the only model that really seems to work we've been doing it for 11 years and we expect to do it for at least another six months will try to make it up to the 2020 election and then maybe a little bit beyond but if the news stays like this you may just have to give up and buy the farm

2:10:33 What farm? It's a very small farm in my case. A lot of land out there in Texas, that's what I would do if I were you. Oh yeah! I'd buy like a 30 acre spread with a farm house and then work on building that thing up and you could probably get one of those pretty cheap...and you'd love it but you gotta check to make sure they have Google Fiber. Yeah everywhere there is Google Fiber there's a corridor of expensive property Matters not. Thank you for those of you who are supporting us on one of our subscriptions Those are always great and now it's always nice to see the whole community coming together We have a fantastic network of value and You can support that for our next program which will be on Sunday go to vorac org Slash n a do we have a couple of karmas here 1 4? Let me see

2:11:30 Uhhhhhhmm... Where was it now? Oh, Sir Lou the Shoe needed a Jobs Karma and we'll also put an F Cancer Karma there. It is the last day of January for 2019 and here are the birthdays for the 31st. Lauren Kate Mahmood says happy birthday to her boyfriend Chad, he's turning 26 I think it's today Jackson Butler turned 40 yesterday Sir Big Johnson says happy birthday to his wife Dame Elizabeth she celebrates today Happy Birthday Dame Elizabeth

2:12:17 Stephen Schnellker, happy birthday to Smoking Hot Wife. She has a birthday today Josh Myers also Smokin' Hot Wife she turns 34 today his wife is Dana Berenet Sir Economic Hitman turns 30 today and we have Make Good from Sir Brian Kaufmann which he missed a couple of days ago And Patrick Wolfe accidentally got a birthday shout-out instead of for his son Graham Wolfe, and I think we've corrected it with this. So happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Long list of birthdays... A lot of Capricorns. A lot of Capricorns. That's right okay We got you right here. We got a daming and a nighting so step on up

2:13:07 Adrian Drenkhan, step on up. Jackson Butler both of you have supported the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more that gives you a spot here at The Coveted Roundtable of our No Agenda Knights and Dames and you get a title to go with it so I hereby pronounce the name Adrian Drekhan and Sir Jackson Knight of the transistors. For you we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, we got cookies and vodka warm beer and cold women tequita and tequila We got single malt scotch early times in BF4 craw ship and cane breaks mutton uh ginger and gerbils sparkling cider escorts bong hits and bourbon geishas and sake breast milk and pablum and there it is mutton and mead a roundtable favorite so both of you scurry on over to noageneration.com slash rings let Eric Schill know

2:13:56 Where to send said a ring of the sealing wax it's a signet ring as well as your certificate also on the way now that? The new rings are out sir Greg Davies his ring will also Be sent to Dame Jennifer and Dame Jennifer will be attending the Austin meetup Which is on the 2nd of March 3 30 p.m.. In Austin at the Austin beer works I don't know if anyone set up uh, meetup.com for that we do have a MeetUp before that on the 22nd of February man it's like I'm a comedian doing gigs! I'll be at Chuckles in Des Moines Iowa on the 22nd 445 is when that starts

2:14:36 And I forgot the venue. I'll put it in the show notes, go to meetup.com you should be able to find it there but again I'll put it in the show notes It's interesting and Des Moines is the place where everyone goes to announce Well that's because they have one of the first elections The first vote primary Votes they do one of the first early, but they do are burning before I'm thinking that me being there. Oh get the temperature now I'll know who's people have you ever been to Des Moines? You know I'm sure at some point in my career. I did an in-store appearance for the shitty top 40 radio station But I can't remember it. That's a great little town Yeah, so we have we have a wedding the next day

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

Elliott Abrams, Iran-Contra History

The appointment of Elliott Abrams as special envoy to Venezuela sparks a discussion on his controversial history in Central America during the Reagan administration. A clip from "Democracy Now!" features investigative reporter Alan Nairn detailing Abrams' involvement in the Iran-Contra affair and his support for regimes in Guatemala and El Salvador. The segment includes a 1995 Charlie Rose clip where Nairn confronted Abrams, calling for him to be tried for war crimes.

elliott abrams· democracy now· alan nairn· guatemala· war crimes

2:15:26 And so we're going there early to do the meetup and we have I think over 50 people scheduled already. I'm very excited It's gonna be great new headcount make sure you do a head count yeah, yes, let's do it counts make sure Okay, we got a couple things here. Since we were talking about Venezuela and we did mention democracy now of course is the socialist news and they're all against everything going on because you know leave that guy in he was voted in for after all yeah who cares where he was born Yeah, who cares? Constitution smogs the tution cares about the constitution But they did bring on this investigative reporter called Alan Nairn Mm-hmm and it was mostly to talk about this Abrams character. Who's this the guy that Trump just hired Oh The yeah the guy of the Iran Contra guys. Yeah, the Iran guy like the war criminal Hey if you want to do a coup

2:16:27 Do it with the right people, get some pros in there. So that you know bringing this Elliot Abrams bringing this guy in... It's kind of a red flag makes it look as though you know even though uh you had that clip from NBC where Rubio said well you know we have nothing to do with this and other people say this we don't have- We didn't trigger this it wasn't something we didn't have Hillary's hitmen go in there and do anything Uh it just started spontaneous not spontaneously but the Venezuelan people got fed up But if you're gonna make it look like we did it, then bring us Abrams. Now do you think that Bolton hired him? Because I still don't understand what Bolton is doing in Trump's orbit

2:17:12 I don't either because he's a neocon and Abrams is a neocon. These are warmongers, these are the kind of guys that Trump always bitches and moans about. Yeah it's not very de-swampy of him No not at all but let's listen to what Nairn says about Abrams on Democracy Now! He just reads...he gives us the backgrounder that is worth listening to Abe was the key man in Reagan administration policy towards Central America when that administration was abetting what a court recently ruled was a genocide in Guatemala, when the U.S. was backing the army of El Salvador in a series of death squad assassinations and massacres and when the US was invading Nicaragua with a Contra force that went after one U.S. general described as soft targets

2:18:05 meaning civilians, things like cooperatives. Abrams later came back during the George W Bush administration joined the National Security Council and was a key man in implementing the US policy of backing Israeli attacks against Gaza when the US refused to accept the results of the Gaza elections where Hamas defeated Fatah in a vote, and instead Abrams and company backed a war operation to overturn the results of the election, backing the forces of Mohammed Dahlan. Some commentators have said well Abrams is not a Trump guy he represents traditional established US foreign policy and that's true. Yeah

2:19:01 Which the oil business is also traditional American US policy. Yes, so they brought this guy in for a reason he's obviously a hitman How much do you think Tillerson had to do with this before he got ousted or did he screw something up? Because he must have been all over this This is a Tillerson type operation I mean he would be the guy for that Yeah, I have no idea because I always got the sense that Tillerson never got any direction Never really took any initiative just a bumbler But who knows? I mean, he's the oil guy. You'd think he would be all over this but maybe didn't do anything with oil because fearful that someone would call him out for being conflict of interest. Conflict of interested. Yes, conflict of interested. So Abrams apparently was on Charlie Rose in 1995...I got this clip.

2:19:51 And he was with the same reporter, this guy who apparently had been at each other. So I kind of accept this reporters take on things because if you look into him as being like compromised, went to Georgetown and went to Yale Law and then he went... No, he didn't do any of that. His background wasn't stationed in Berlin and then stationed in Tunisia none of that He's just an investigative reporter who seems like he doesn't, he's totally disconnected from the intelligence groups that run these guys. Hey you gotta fake it till you make it right? So this guy was on with Abrams on Charlie Rose and they said he should be tried as a war criminal right there on the show. It was dynamite!

2:20:38 I mean, I think you have to be...you have to apply uniform standards. President Bush once talked about putting Saddam Hussein on trial for crimes against humanity, Nuremberg-style tribunal. I think that's a good idea but if you're serious, you have to be evenhanded. If we look at a case like this, I think we have to start talking about putting Guatemalan and U.S. officials on trial. I think someone like Mr. Abrams would be a fit uh... subject for such a new york style inquiry agree with mister abrams the democrats would have to be in the dock with him the congress has been on this the congress approved the sale of sixteen thousand and sixteens to guatemala in eighty seven eighty-eight what's that i did before because they voted more military aid than the republicans asked for again invite

2:21:17 you and Elliot Abrams back to discuss what he did. But right now... Thanks, Charlie but I... Go ahead do you want to speak the question or be in the dock? It is ludicrous it is ludicrous to respond to that kind of stupidity this guy thinks we were on the wrong side in the Cold War maybe he personally was on the wrong side uh... I am one of them many millions of Americans who think Mr Abrams you are at the wrong side supporting the massacre of peasants and organizers What I wanna ask the following question That's a crime Mr Abram which people should be tried You know, I want to put all the American officials who won the Cold War in the dock. You know it's never too late? You know, the funny thing is this Abrams was and Charlie did nothing about this. He Abrams made the point that it was a cold war that we went and massacred a bunch of people in Guatemala and has kind of screwed up that country What does have to do with the Cold War against Russia

2:22:12 I mean, he's in any end. He says hey this guy you know he's against the Cold War. I mean is against being on our side and the Cold War it's got nothing to do with it and Rose said zip about hey we're not talking about the cold war were talking about Guatemala No, no that didn't happen. So this guy... but anyway I thought it was a very funny exchange and nobody's you know going after Abrams again It's never too late we can still do Nuremberg trials they're funny Yeah they won't do them Nuremberg trials are great! That's not happening Hey, I come from the front lines of technology to discuss something with you yeah? You know i've been messing around with a pie hole

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Pi-hole, Roku Network Tracking

A host describes installing "Pi-hole" software on a Raspberry Pi to block advertisements and trackers at the network level. The logs revealed that Roku devices scan home networks every minute and report data back to 25 different tracking servers. The device even reports when the remote control is touched, highlighting the extensive "spying" performed by modern consumer electronics and Windows operating systems.

pi-hole· raspberry pi· roku· network security· telemetry

2:22:50 Yeah, I just think it's a great name. Piehole is a software package that's open source you can download it and install it typically you run it on a Raspberry Pi which is the very inexpensive $25 computer that's pretty much complete It's just the Just the board with some chips on it But it has no you get it with Wi-Fi And you pretty much plug it in you you burn an SD card with whatever you need You stick it in and the thing kind of works I mean You anyone can do this certainly with a little bit of help from some of the people in the no agenda Value network if you needed it now, so what this does is it but you load block lists Which are also open source put together by communities people who are Looking at things that are spying on you mainly So I think initially started as a way to block ads on your home network and

2:23:43 And that turned into blocking not just ads but trackers. And it is because I've been watching the logs go by first of all my internet has sped up like 20% feels like just because i'm not loading on this crap anymore But, I was very surprised reading on the Piehole Reddit That there's also a way to stop Roku from tracking you I've been reading what the Roku box does. Holy crap, it scans your network every minute and reports to back to home base that has 25 different tracking servers It reports too and it reports you know stuff like your your network card your NIC card Information, you know what kind of devices you have? It's reporting a lot of information

2:24:33 So I'm like, well of course. I want to install these and usually the block lists have everything so that it'll just still work for instance Tina still uses Instagram That doesn't work anymore Facebook Instagram that doesn't work in my house anymore You know you blocked the the tracking server which is graph dot instagram com and stops working Which is fine? We're all happy with that but the roku So I'm looking at this thing, the Roku is not activated. It's on but i'm not even watching TV. I'm watching the log file of the Pi-hole John, I touch the remote immediately it starts reporting back just touched it there's an accelerometer or something in it

2:25:18 Yeah, actually there is the remote on the Roku acts as like a Wii controller Okay well so it can be used you can turn on a pointer on the screen and by moving The remote you can move the pointer around on the screen So that but what it does have it does have those fake. Okay? Well It's also reporting that immediately. This is like hey someone touch me pay attention What's he doing how's he hold is he standing is he sitting at your clothes? What's he doing oh So like holy crap pretty much and so you'd be very surprised what kind of spying is going on Microsoft Windows It's unbelievable. Why does being have to be talked to every minute? And yeah, I don't even use Bing my browser is not even open it's talking to being there's all kinds of stuff block block block block block

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Facebook Research App, Data Privacy Tipping Point

Facebook faces backlash for a "research app" that paid teenagers $40 a month to monitor their entire phone activity via a VPN. While Apple revoked Facebook's developer certificate over the incident, the hosts argue this is a positive "tipping point" because it finally puts a clear market price on personal data. The segment also briefly mentions the film "Johnny English Strikes Again" as a satire of Silicon Valley data collection.

facebook· apple· vpn· data privacy· johnny english

2:26:06 And then I come across, so you know this is the world we live in. We're tracked just by all kinds of stuff and you have no idea what really is going on except building great profiles of you. Then I read a very interesting story which I want to peg at a timeline and history as maybe a tipping point very important Facebook is now in some hot water because they had an app in the App Store which included a VPN And the concept of this app, and it wasn't the regular Facebook app. If you downloaded and installed this app...

2:26:44 The VPN would, with your knowledge spy on everything you're doing on your phone. So anything that's running all went through Facebook so you have to envision it as your phones connected the internet but it has a tunnel straight to Facebook they analyze everything what every app GPS information accelerometer just you name it and then of course it connects you to the Internet if you're using it and they were paying people for this Now, Facebook or Apple told them to stop that. They stopped and they did it again by putting it into some research app and kind of hiding it and now Apple is like oh you're kicked off! Their apps haven't been kicked out of the store but they've lost their developer certificate so there's all kinds of feuding going on for something that Facebook was very open about. They were advertising mainly to teens, millennials

2:27:40 so not just teens but millennials, $40 a month if you install this app so we can track everything you're doing. And this is the tipping point There were 10 million people who at one point or another signed up for this program to sell all their data, everything they're doing for $40 a month. And while this has created outrage I think it is the most wonderful thing that has ever happened Thank you Facebook thank you ten million people for putting a price on data I mean, I'm sure that there are companies who would pay $50 for you to do this. Yeah Or maybe some combination This is turning the model upside down and i don't think anyone sees it yet but... ...I feel that its a very interesting opportunity to turn the spying around into No! I'll give you my data for X amount and under these conditions

2:28:44 I think this is being misinterpreted. It's a fantastic thing that has taken place, it is the first step where consumers may be able to get the upper hand. It's almost like carbon pricing you know we're still waiting for a price on carbon and now we have a price for your data in your life at your digital life $40 a month that's a good start Well, the way you provide us with this information. The way you put it out there I think your onto something so like it too! I think is a fantastic idea that everyone get all bent out of shape about. This is great people are you kidding me? We just need more companies doing and I think that there's lots of people who would say yeah

2:29:28 I'll give something away. 40 bucks a month? I'd take a 40 buck thing if i could uh yeah 500, go ahead track me here. Yeah exactly! I don't even use my phone Exactly um well the new uh Johnny English movie with Mr. Bean, it talks about this the whole movie is about that guy who's a Silicon Valley data monger Oh really? Yeah and he says he's gonna take over the world if we don't stop him and you know this bumbling spy What's the name of this movie? Johnny English something It's new Johnny English movies like this guy Atkinson Rowan Atkinson this actor has not done anything for all I can tell for 10 years but i would say this move just came out Huh! Take a look I'd say that this movie

2:30:15 Let me see if I can find the full name of it is Johnny English something. Yes, I enjoyed it. I thought it was a Is that on the on the? John on the Netflix strikes again is there on the Netflix or the Amazons don't think so theaters you saw it in the theater Yeah Johnny English strikes again They give it three out of five stars. Nobody likes the movie because they hate the actor. There are two bits in here that as someone who admires good writing, there's at least two bits in here one in particular that is just like you go oh my god why didn't anybody think of this before?

2:31:04 Where he puts on a people see this I won't even give it away, but he put let's just put it this way This is where the bit starts. He puts on some VR VR thing yeah And then you goes from there and it's very entertaining. I thought was good movie excellent well also Several people pointed out that knew we're talking about 5g That the Kingsmen 2 had a variation of this, you know everyone has a phone it controls you and then if a central point can kill you. Did you see Kingsman 2? You know I have not seen Kingsman 2 and i should have because I really like Kingsman 1 which is similar where they put little implantations in everyone's head that you could blow their head off if they were disobedient yes This is... It's a very good point

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

5G Technology, Australia Broadband Rollout

The discussion covers the global push for 5G technology, noting that AT&T is currently rebranding 4G speeds as "5G E." A clip from Australia announces the first 5G home broadband service in Canberra and Sydney, with plans to deploy 1,200 base stations. The hosts express concern over the health effects of high-frequency cell systems and the push to make 5G part of "national infrastructure."

5g· at&t· australia· canberra· optus

2:31:59 The best part of actually we have so many network admins dudes named Ben who have checked in a couple of things I've learned one 5g is actually the protocol and So that's what AT&T is doing, is they're rolling out 5G on 4G radios which go up to about 6 gigahertz. The other thing about 5G is because it's being made into this national emergency and I have my thoughts about that you know we don't have 5g we're all going to die cars will not drive automatically your fridge won't know how to order the milk you know all the stuff that that we've been promised you know the flying cars all of this will be possible with 5G

2:32:40 It's such an emergency that the, I think the push is to make it national infrastructure already. It's very simple for the telecommunications companies with today's regulations to put these things anywhere they want And if you make it part of our national infrastructure, they can do pretty much whatever they want. So they're just getting their boxes in and it's about getting your boxes in close We're looking at some of these higher range 5G cell systems anywhere from 60 to over 100 watts and with the higher frequencies that'll be interesting

2:33:23 But we do have a possible rollout. Yeah, it'll be interesting when the birds...when you notice there's no more birds in your neighborhood That's oh that'd be great We have grackles here in Austin Oh! Grackle is very funny No they're very scary They're annoying They sit on the tree at night to make noise yeah but they just sit there looking at ya all down 2nd Street Every tree looks like the trees black but its just the bird sitting in their and creepy Of course the first people to fry... Adam hates birds. I do, no i don't! I really don't hate birds Anyway the first 5G rollout of some significance where are we going to fry people first? Let's go down under! The US unveiled sweeping charges Oh shoot this one I mean And today we're very proud that they're bringing in the very first application of 5g using our new 5g network

2:34:19 to provide this new home broadband service. We are proud to be able bring this to residences across Australia, starting right here with two suburbs in Canberra in the Dixon suburb where we're at and Maneka and one in Glendening in Sydney. And gradually over the next 14 months In capital cities across Australia and in regional cities, we will be bringing this Optus 5G home broadband service as we deploy 1200 base stations by March 31st 2020. Alright Canberra you'll be on the barbie!

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Huawei Indictments, US-China Tech War

The U.S. Justice Department files nearly two dozen charges against Chinese tech giant Huawei and its CFO, Meng Wanzhou. The indictments allege that Huawei stole trade secrets from T-Mobile—specifically regarding a testing robot named "Tappy"—and violated sanctions against Iran. The hosts frame this as a "5G war" where the U.S. is attempting to block Chinese dominance in global telecommunications infrastructure.

huawei· t-mobile· meng wanzhou· justice department· trade secrets

2:35:10 You'll be the Barbie. Now I've really been thinking about this 5G and in the world of growth where Every industry has to continue to expand and grow and we're seeing the strains of this like health care You know prices are so overinflated why because these companies need to grow they need to do more every company needs to grow And I think that this this religion this 5g religion is it's really gonna come down to that and the fight with

2:35:46 with China. Yeah, we have a trade war but really it surrounds the even the trade war the stealing of technology all these accusations it comes down to 5G who's gonna be in charge of it who is running and who runs whose network and The Wall Street Journal had decent breakdown of the was a 5g war which as you probably figured out his That includes Huawei in China. The U.S unveiled sweeping charges against Chinese tech giant Huawei on Monday, formally accusing the company and its affiliates of stealing trade secrets and violating Iran sanctions. Nearly two dozen charges were filed in two separate indictments first in Washington state authorities charged Huawei with stealing technology from T-Mobile. The investigation stemmed from a civil suit brought by T-Mobile in 2014 back

2:36:41 Like when Huawei supplied phones for T-Mobile, the company said that the Chinese firm stole secrets about its testing robot named Tappy. And finally, when all this still did not get them what they were looking for. They tried to steal Tappy's robotic arm in order for engineers in China to replicate it." Now the Justice Department is alleging that the theft was part of an organized effort And that Huawei even paid bonuses to employees who successfully stole confidential information. Huawei has denied wrongdoing." And second, in an indictment unsealed in Brooklyn the U.S. alleged that Huawei its chief financial officer and two

2:37:27 of Huawei's affiliates were involved in violating U.S. sanctions against Iran. The indictment includes charges against the company's Meng Wanzhou for her personal involvement in misleading financial institution. Ms. Meng is the Huawei founders daughter she was arrested in Canada in December and his fighting extradition the US's global campaign against Huawei has enraged China and the latest indictments are likely to escalate tension between Washington and Beijing just as trade talks are set to resume

2:38:13 Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross tried to make it clear that these charges are separate from trade discussion. To be clear, these indictments are law enforcement actions and are wholly separate from our trade negotiations with China. Huawei products have largely been blocked from the U.S.. But even without access to the U.S. market, Huawei is the world's largest maker of telecom equipment and the second-largest smartphone company after Samsung. Huawei poses a threat to the US, officials say because it's positioning itself as a global leader in 5G — the ultrafast wireless technology that will soon be connected to everything but that could also be vulnerable to cyberattacks."

2:38:53 So the more I think about this and I'm more here these types of reports, I think that the move is got to be towards some kind of nationalization or some way to get it subsidized by the Treasury basically to print money to smother the Chinese or whatever it is. Somewhere we've gotta bring this to a national level And all this other stuff may just be window dressing. I'm sure, you know Chinese have a different culture They don't care that everything's from the people so they don't see it as stealing to paraphrase No This is I was told us once years ago by a communist when I was in the Soviet Union He said we believe that all intellectual property is the property of the people right and that's the Chinese thing too and there okay well They only pay lip service to our notions right

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Purdue Pharma, Sackler Family Opioid Lawsuit

The Attorney General of Massachusetts files a lawsuit against the billionaire Sackler family, owners of Purdue Pharma, for their role in the opioid epidemic. Court documents allege that Richard Sackler encouraged the company to blame "addicts" for the crisis while aggressively pushing OxyContin sales. The hosts also discuss the side effects of the drug, noting that high doses reportedly contributed to radio host Rush Limbaugh's deafness.

purdue pharma· sackler family· oxycontin· opioid crisis· massachusetts

2:39:47 But this 5G, there's a lot riding on it. I think healthcare is also the insurance industry... Let's call it the healthcare industry. It's big pharma, its bankers with insurance, all of this. I think their version of growth and maybe this is why it's happening is let's give everybody free healthcare that the government pays for and then lets let a lot extra people in It's like you know who's gonna win it's not gonna be the taxpayer But someone's gonna make out like a bandit because they expand to an infinite number Free health care and bring in all kinds of extra people let him just run in. Yeah, that's a formula for success It's a winning success but of course You know some people also take it a little too far this Sackler family is

2:40:36 Which is, this is not something that's in the news a lot because it's pharmaceutical and I was surprised to see this on Good Morning America but they did a piece about Purdue. Purdue is the company owned by the Sackler family that owns the patents on Oxycontin and who, well the report explains how brazen these people are. Michael good morning to you the National Safety Council says Americans are more likely to die from an accidental opioid overdose than a car crash this morning the Attorney General of Massachusetts is accusing the billionaire Sackler family of contributing to the epidemic saying they knew the risks

2:41:14 but push the drug anyway. The complaint alleges certain members of the Sackler family, who are worth $13 billion were aware of the dangers of OxyContin but continued to push sales according to newly filed court documents when OxyContin was first released Richard Sackler Purdue's former president and son at a company founder is quoted saying in a company event that the launch would be followed by a blizzard of prescriptions The complaint also says years later, as evidence of widespread abuse of OxyContin began to mount, Sackler urged the company to blame addicts. Allegedly writing in an email, we have to hammer on the abusers in every way possible they are the culprits and the problem they are reckless criminals. Purdue Pharma telling ABC News, the Attorney General has cherry-picked from among tens of millions

2:42:04 emails and other business documents produced by Purdue. The complaint is littered with biased and inaccurate characterizations of these documents. Purdue, and the individual defendants will aggressively defend against these misleading allegations." Now Purdue Pharma's statement goes on to say that we continue to fight for balance in the public discourse so that society can simultaneously help pain patients in need and create real solutions to the complex problem of addiction. The company and Sackler family are facing dozens of other lawsuits across the country. That's nice, kill people blame them! Well the worst part about it was the idea behind OxyContin in their sales pitch was it's not as addictive

2:42:48 Right as morphine or any of the other yeah, thanks guys. So they went with the sales get this stuff's not as addictive so you can just go ahead This is the thing that and it also has some ill effects to certain people I mean Rush Limbaugh got strung out all time Yeah And because he used to be a big anti You know He used to be a big talker about people getting strung out in there But then he stopped talking about it but it made him deaf yes And it has that effect of overdosing on or taking too much of this stuff, which apparently just blows out your ears. I didn't realize that's where his deafness came from. That's interesting. I didn't know that. That's what everybody thinks and then I heard his show before he got whatever had some operations to get his hearing kind of back only is not...

2:43:39 the same, but he there was a period of time where I heard him when he was deaf still doing his show. But he couldn't hear himself very well and he did not sound anything like Rush Limp. It was really...I'm thinking who's this guy? Yeah now he has the implants He has got some implants and so now he sounds like himself again but he didn't sound like himself when he was just flying blind as it were And it was a very interesting voice he had It was not as bombastic. He's got a great voice, so it wasn't that bad. So I guess you lose the hair in your ears which is exactly what makes you hear? Could be...it's not good stuff. What?! Viagra makes you blind! Uh-oh John

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Cold War Trivia, Show Sign-off

The show concludes with a "man on the street" clip where a person incorrectly identifies the Cold War as being about "freeing the slaves." The hosts sign off with a montage of clips featuring Donald Trump discussing grocery shopping, ID cards, and Cheerios. They remind listeners of the next broadcast on Super Bowl Sunday and play the "End of Show Mix."

cold war· man on the street· cheerios· donald trump· id cards

2:44:26 What? What are people telling you in that chat room. All right, how we doing? We're done actually unless you want to... I got the funny one now. Okay bring one more this is me this is a shorty this is only uh I don't know eight seconds This is a man on the street thing that was done by some podcaster and of course he laughs a lot at the end which makes it funnier. But this is a question, man on the street question about what is the Cold War? Trying to find a cold war question ah okay got you hold war what was that about freeing the slaves? What it was her answer freeing the slaves Yes, we really don't deserve to be a country All right nice all right everybody

2:45:32 That's it for today's deconstruction. I think we've brought you a lot we didn't get to the The Roe v Wade Convo stations, I'm sure there'll be more outrage over that and it's all posturing It's all four votes. It's all about the election and it's quite disgusting the way its being presented on all sides Sunday, I think we should try and shed some light and deconstruct what's going on there And I'm sure you'll be here then Yes, yeah, okay I will be here as well. I'll be here, you'll be here? Yeah, yeah, I'll be here Will you guys be here? Hey you! Will you be here? Coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state here in FEMA region number six on all governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody

2:46:20 I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's supposed to be three days of rain that we haven't had, it's not raining so...I think they're wrong! I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday with another Best Podcast in the Universe thanks to Mixmaster Rulefeet Tom Starkweather and Alex and L-O-B-G for End Of Show Mixes Adios mofos and such! And I strike up a conversation and ask her, is she ever meant to Paris? And uh... She says no. Breaking point! Breaking point! Breaking point you know what that means. I've never had a fro. I've never had a shind.

2:47:49 Don't worry. Be happy. Never heard of it. Never heard of sugar-flossed flakes? How much does an 18 ounce box of Cheerios cost? An 18 ounce box of Cheerios? I don't know about Cheerios, but here's the deal... Donald Trump have you ever used a coupon in your life? Well i've never even gone to really a food market with my wife so.. No!

2:48:42 So yeah, you said so. Why? So yeah, you said so. I don't eat Cheerios, I'm sorry. Okay. Never heard of it. I worked out a lot, ate a lotta Wheaties But let's look at the facts and what I've tried to say. Yeah, I only eat Churrios, I'm sorry. Okay. Never heard of it You know if you go out and want to buy groceries... ...you need a picture on a card! You need ID! So yeah, you said so. Why? You need ID Never heard of it. So, yeah, you said... Why? You need I.D! Yeah, I don't eat Cheerios, I'm sorry. Okay. Never heard of it.