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00:00 No writer uses the word lodestar. Tracking George Cluton and broadcasting live from the angry microclimate of Lake Como, Italy in the Lakeside Shanty. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I don't know what he's talking about...I'm John C. DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! You know where I am? You followed me on the tweeters? No actually I do not know where you are

00:42 And by the way, when we were talking just pre-show I kept thinking you're actually in Amsterdam. No! We're sitting here... No, I know you are in Italy some place but I was just telling that's the feeling I had. Okay now Lake Como? Ah yes. Near... Oh yeah ah the Clooney reference. Yes there is a Clooney reference near Bellagio is where we are. Have you ever been to Lake Como? No, actually I have never been to Lake Como. I've always wanted to drive through It's not a place should drive through on You might want to look at the map and see exactly where the drive-thru would be it's it's two mountain It's like mountain ranges with with a glacial lake in the middle there's no driving through

01:28 You can't get up there in a car? Yeah, you can get up here in the car but you'd have to... Oh then you could drive through. No! You would have to cross the lake somehow and that would mean they could get the ferry boat and then I guess yeah technically you could drive to Switzerland of course but this is more a destination never been here before never even thought about it I gotta tell ya its one of those spectacular beautiful places on earth I've ever seen So I've heard. And no wonder George Clooney's got a place here Did you visit him? Say hi. No, he's significantly further south but I gotta tell you we did take one of those tour boats where it was like six people three couples and yeah it's one of those Riva boats the beautiful wooden boats Yeah the whole Audrey Hepburn vibe

02:17 And so the tour is it consists entirely of looking at these houses, which is great because one of the main house another how she don't own and there's another house you But but there's another house You don't know but here's the house that you've seen in the movie casino Royale and in Star Wars The the Empire doesn't know when to come back part three or whichever one. It was I And that is apparently quite a draw here for the Trekkies. Not the Trekkies, for the Star Wars freaks. Yeah no it's fantastic it really really has been nice staying here It got its own microclimate John, it's been just perfect weather and then about an hour before the show started thunder lightning just rain splashing down now it's lifting up again. It's really a great part of the world

03:11 And I've learned a lot. You should move there because the connection is good, move there that's my recommendation yeah i'm glad that you know we saw Willow first we were in uh... We went directly after the show or the day after the show last year we went to Florence for Willow my sister's 25th anniversary and that was up in the hills there And I've learned so much about what's going on in Italy. Okay, well that's where we're here for! I thought you'd like that yeah and the things i've learned first of all the political climate here is not properly represented in any mainstream media I've been reading or following and probably because it's very complicated as to who exactly is running the show

03:56 But I guess we have the extreme left and extreme right, and they'll say that with air quotes. They're both in the coalition so absolutely nothing is getting done And they're fighting all of time An example of that is marijuana was legal here for a little bit after one of the previous elections And everyone was like, yeah great and now it's illegal again. That went in the course of one year! It didn't take much... No it went from legal to illegal as just very bizarre and you know Willow and her husband they don't really talk about this is what I really thought was interesting I think its happening all over not just happening in the US but people are afraid to give their opinion in a social setting about

04:43 They're thinking about a certain politician or political party because it's just as toxic here. People are going insane over the guys on the right and others are going insane over the guys on the left, now in this case they're both in government dysfunctionally making nothing move But it's very interesting that people just want to shut up and they don't want to talk about it. That's exactly like the US. It is, and it reminds me of the Netherlands with Geert Wilders And I'm sure the same can be said for France with Le Pen and whatever else is happening there Very interesting

05:21 The, uh... Let me see. What do I have in my report here? Not much more on that actually but i did find out where all the Windows phones in the world have gone they're here in Italy everywhere I turn there's a Windows phone A Windows smartphone Well, that's interesting. At the car rental at the check-in here at a restaurant we went to and I'll say what do you with Windows phone? Yeah bottom line is people here are poor they can't afford an iPhone And I think somehow Windows just got their foothold in here and everyone who has one say, yeah. I can't get any apps. I can't update doesn't do anything more but at least I can text and I can you know do some internet stuff. You don't get used to the reality that's all you need Yeah they don't yes exactly they don't really care and no one is laughing at my OTG phone here They'll look at it oh yeah smart guy

06:18 You're an American, you sure? Smart guy. He knows what's going on. So a couple other things just that I wrote down that I wanted to mention a big, you know this is the 25th anniversary they so you know they had it they got a little castle and real party Italian style where there's about 150 guests I think 10 of them were came in from other parts of the world mainly related to my sister Willow and the other 130 we're all distant relatives of the groom and just is like people who just kind of show up and they really like to party, and they know how to party. And they bring great gifts but the number one gift in Italy...and I have not seen this in the States yet..is the surprise adventure box! It's it's kind of like a gift card

07:12 And that's how you purchase it, but it's a box about the size of a CD I think there may even be a DVD in there But if it is an adventure and the adventure is you can go Skydiving and there's a hotel Day with it or you can choose love and as five different packages. You can choose from It's really a chicken shit gift. I think because you know instead of actually giving someone someone something you thought about, you're letting them make the decision. And they just had I think they had 15 of these boxes all different. Yeah yeah all different. I agree with you by the way i think it is a there's two problems with one is that one of those cards or do you know what? I don't like that ever yes like ideas they never cash him in and that's where you make your money. There's that yeah

07:58 Which I find and you're right. You should be able to be more thoughtful than that Yeah, it's like giving somebody cash gift card or something. I don't like that. It didn't give a shit about you Although most people don't bitch about when you give him 100 now neither would I not be kind of cool about that? Let's see at the party And this was again it was this kind of odd old castle with a couple of you know party rooms But mainly most of us outdoors but they had a pool And the pool was in the back area. Now you have to imagine this setting, it's Tuscany, it's the hills... It's kind of like the Mona Lisa backdrop idea and off to the side out at the back poorly lit but the pool was lit there is a nice pool

08:40 And so that was kind of the smoking area for the people who thought the law was still in effect, that you could smoke weed. Oh, the smoking area! The smoking area but it was yeah but we were back there and there's really no lights just the pool light itself and it was mind-boggling because all these families I'd say they were probably 10 to 15 kids and the majority of them, so at least ten of them were ages six to nine. And they're just running around! They're running around this pool and they're tripping over people's legs... The pool is very exposed

09:22 It's incredible. This would not happen in the United States. No! If this was going people be like, oh I can't believe this there is nothing... There are no kids running around the pool and it's not protected. And this was like one kid falls in the pool everyone's laughing you know fish him out take him upstairs put some dry pants on And it was so different from, you know, from the completely overprotected messed up nature of what we know in the States. It was really apparent that it was different." Yeah well... and I don't know why that is? No. I think it's much better! I mean yeah, I could make some judgments and assertions that probably aren't accurate so I'm not gonna say.

10:09 Last thing for you, and of course we're only halfway in our travels. You were complaining the other day about how you Were using a VPN and you are getting the Mexican version of Google And why you were using Google I don't understand because we are being family So I'm little disappointed in general But you were complaining about this because you use a VPN often correct well actually let me explain that no I think I was bit I should have been bitching differently my complaint was being Oh, Bing. Okay. Bing is the one that when it sees you in some part of the... You know? Oh! You're in Mexico?! Okay. Well I'm not in Mexico anymore now let me switch to VPN and Canada Noooo! I am still in Mexico Right. Oh okay let me go to Connecticut No no no no. Your'e still in Mexico Ahhhh okay I gotcha So whatever yo do once Bing sees your in Mexico your in Mexico for months I guess Now I have exactly opposite Im logged into Twitter

11:07 I'm logged in so they know hello. This is Adam. I'm sure there's some cookie somewhere that still says yep this guy is logged in but I get Italian ads Where's the logic in that? Italian ads on Twitter. They know who I am, they know that you know and so i actually had to use a VPN This is the great... this is the scam! It makes no sense they're losing money by not understanding that I'm here on vacation This whole thing is bullcrap Oh we got AI, we track you We've given you special ads that YOU want And none of it works It really doesn't Very disappointing Like wow

11:49 Yeah, so that was all the technology I got except for we wait a minute you got the technology of what your how are You hooked up ah? What do you mean how am i hooked up? Oh? Big giga thing yeah, the jiggas willow was very kind before. We came over I said hey Can you pick me up a couple of Jigga's that's what they call them here in Italy it's gigas of course but they are all in on the gif so they say jiggas and She said, yeah. It is Jif. Well I know but not everyone thinks so and The logic doesn't make sense because jiff would mean Hey i'm with you! I'm with you and we're not going to re-litigate that one No we're not talking about it But I'm with you on that So she got me an official card which is on her name Which has 30 gigas a month And I've already blown through 12 I think just On the trip in general and show prep and getting ready

12:45 And I have 80 megabits down and I have about 27 megabits up on this dongle right here, right at the lake. The Wi-Fi in this Airbnb that we're staying in which as you can hear is a little bit boomy it's all made of... It's an old cave I think just hewn out of rock You know, you get on their Wi-Fi which is the landline based Wi-Fi connected to whatever telecom Italia they have up here. Here talking about 0.9 megabit down .6 up it's unbelievable and this is Tim this is the Italian mobile company

13:26 It's fantastic. You could really live here as long as that part is working, you can but I don't know what happens... What does 30 gigas cost? It was 25 euros. So it's 25 euros and that would last a month? It's good. That's your cap for the month, so you have to make that last which of course is not enough but there are some top-up options Willow told me. Can I get a second? Two of those cards? Yeah! You can get another card sure you could get as many cards as you want But I will for two of those cars 50 you think that would cover you for a month That's $50 a month for pretty high speeds. I think it would it would cover the show and show prep and regular living if we wanted to And God knows why but he wanted to stream Netflix or anything? I think we'd probably run out a lot quicker than that So, okay, but we haven't watched any television is beautiful country these people don't need anything They don't need television they barely needed internet You walk into the water you grab some fish you got tourism, you know

14:30 Let me get a fish here for you. You got oil, you got olive oil, you got your olive-oil wood... These people are set! This is old school here. They're still living in a different century Or now No no it's I could live here for awhile no doubt Why don't ya? I think you should move there Well, Tina and I keep considering that perhaps you know when because we want to move out of downtown maybe we get something just the home base a really effective. I would say cost-effective and then four times a year go away for six weeks and sit in a different part of the world do the show soak in the culture. Because you got the gigas! The head the jiggers be digital nomads And seeing as she accepted my proposal last night

15:19 Oh yes, this was on Twitter. I didn't follow what it was all about. You already proposed where you're a Fiat. I thought this is already done! I can't believe you didn't look on the Insta. I mean...I nailed it John. I nailed it. I had her book the restaurant and then went to so that because now I can't do anything she doesn't know she's suspicious like when are you doing? What does he know? He's reacting odd why is he walking that way hmm So I make sure that she called the restaurant, she made the reservation. Then I had my boys in Holland kick into gear so came in we had the best table people were giving me like the high sign you know like they knew it was up We sit down after the first course and this is a famous restaurant Mistral? It has a Michelin star This I think is the guy who they claim he invented molecular cooking That's the chef

16:16 It seems unlikely. Yeah, they claim he's the one and I was like well I don't think John would agree with that but apparently he is the guy who started that so you know dinner is fantastic What's his name? I have it written down if you look up Mistral restaurant in Bellagio I can do it for ya when I'm telling you this story So we had already agreed that you know after the the entree or after the appetizer they'll bring two glasses of champagne and that would kind of be the cue because they were also filming it and They had the orchestra start playing love story. So it was like an end so Where's your romance of Orac shut up

17:00 So there's this fantastic video from behind and the music starts swelling up, and then you can see Tina get on one knee and the ring box opens. It was just perfect! Perfect! I don't know why did think that you already went through this already? Are you gonna just get engaged every year? Yeah why not?! Okay, well then that makes sense. No we had not gotten engaged we had uh... We were just uh... I thought you did! That was the big deal You got engaged? Oh no, you listened very poorly. Ugh Yeah, we didn't Let me see who this guy's name is Here we go Team Chef Ettore Boccia

17:40 Does that ring any bells? No. The pastry chef, Manuel Ferrari... no, no bells. Vroom! Vroom vroom. Before you continue let me say congratulations Oh thank you yes and that's it oh that's it okay all right good I'm still looking for this guy's thing here it is Ettore Boccia the chef at the Mistral and Tarassia Cerbolone restaurant Let me see, where's the thing about him? Serves bologna. Yes. Thus the Mistral has been the innovation lab of Italian molecular cuisine which Ettore Boccia founded in collaboration with David Cassi professor of physics of matter at the Parma University when

18:26 In 1729? I don't know. It was great, it was a magical evening and then what are the food was great and then what are the chances oh actually we had a white wine that is made in Tuscany by prisoners the guy had a pretty good rap um all right i got a label for you so i can show that to you I just thought it was funny we're drinking prison wine. Yeah, you're drinking prison one You know they make that stuff in toilets right? Mmm tasty and alright fine yeah, you have no romance

19:07 You don't get it. You don't get romance, man. It's fine I don't get it! You don't get romance? I don't get drinking toilet wine in a weird restaurant with some phony guy who says he invented molecular cuisine...I don't- I don't get it. Just beyond me. You're just jealous and envious as usual okay oh yeah anyway she said yes how about that groovy I thought she already said this No you're so confused I am confused. It's all right, don't worry about it but congratulations! Thank you and you're invited okay where is it going to be? Oh not that you'll come... it depends well listen we're gonna have this uh toilet wine and this italian molecular shit we're gonna do at the wedding We can't wait to have you there Okay yeah anyway it's been fantastic we've met some some I mean what are the chances on

20:03 On the boat ride, there's two guys from Dallas. The people next to us last night. He was from Jersey she was from Chicago I mean, it's got a little American on dollar in the euro is getting there It's getting pretty close. I know not a lot of not a lot of Brits here at this time It's actually have you looked into British pound? Yeah, it's almost dead these people yeah They hate that 30 they hit so low if there was even 128 recently they must be can't afford do anything and you know That's that's what they hate the most when the pound changes like well we can't go on all today Yes, that's right. In fact it is one of the huge issues. So yeah I mean we're gonna go up to Switzerland Saturday and then after that we'll go to the Netherlands so probably have... What are you going to do in Switzerland? Remember the Large Hadron Collider hello for my birthday? Oh that's right! You're gonna get thrown in a hadron collider Just back up for the picture baby just backup

21:00 I have a lot of requests for hoodies from the gift shop. I'm not so sure they have a gift shop actually but Oh, I'll bet you ten bucks They do that should be fun and then after that we're gonna go to the Netherlands for a little bit And then we'll be back home So it's been a very very nice vacation You've had a good time and again as we are really kind of getting into the idea Well maybe we could do this four times a year You should probably think of doing it six times a year. I think i would just go do the other way around, I'd be over there all the time if you can get this connection yeah dynamo how come uh you don't do that? Yeah I don't feel like it no okay yeah with this kind of travel to be tedious at some point you're going to get to this point too and I don't know I've already been there once

21:44 Yeah, but it's changed. I can't change that much how much do you think has changed? All kinds of stuff happening over here that you missed out on yes Please well i've been following a lot of it um... I probably have none of what you've been following Yes for sure For sure If you look at the list You'll see it I looked at your list and like yeah I don't know Well actually I'm glad you- I don't know what any of this is I'm glad you got the Well the Google stuff I saw The google video The oh the google video was disgusting It's really... I mean, I don't know if it was disgusting. It just... It was disgusting! Is it surprising to you?

22:21 It was disgusting and let me really express a few reasons why. Besides the fact that we had this particular, all right? Let's go with the Google stuff right now. Okay. Let's preface it with the Google somebody I don't know how they got ahold of this but Google does a TGIF thing every or what Sergey calls TGF. A TGIF all hands meeting of some sort which is unbelievable that this has not surfaced before it seems like these types of video are prone to want to go viral, don't you think? Yes. But I think they keep a lid on it. They got people they can trust. Obviously in this case somebody made a copy for themselves quit the company and released it at the right part And I think its illegal by the way Oh really? In fact I took a clip...I took and copied

23:07 I copied it with using one of the downloaders. Oh, yeah! I did that too. I thought this is dynamite. This will go away because I don't believe we're gonna see it forever It'll go away a couple of weird things about it is uh... For one thing, I think it's a copyright violation to put something like this out without permission So I think it's an illegal video but that makes it even more interesting Yes and so we have like crazy stuff anyways it was a rant at immediately after the election of Trump and all these billionaires from Google are up there on the podium lamenting Trump's election, and you have to kind of wonder why. But let's play a, I have one two three four five six small clips. One of them is long clip, the rest of them are small. And one of things at the end was this guy comes up, an Indian guy comes up to ask him, I think this was the last question

24:02 First of all, I don't know when this happened but Sergey Brin now sounds exactly like Ray Romano. He does, yes! Now that you mention that he does sound a bit like Ray Romano. And he's kind of adenoidal on it He's got a little Kermit the Frog sound, he looks like Ray Romano. Like hell! Well you can't read through his nose anymore so maybe there is an indicator there. He sounds like Ray Romano, he's very upset by this whole thing. And I want to go right to the end where the prop head comes out The guy comes as an Indian programmer there is a whole little group of them in this audience and they're all wearing beanies with propellers on their heads

24:52 No, wait a minute. I didn't see this part of the video right at the end Okay All right So he goes up there He's got a beanie with a propeller on his head uh-huh and he wraps this thing up This is the prop head guy with Ray Romano Is that anything positive you see from this election result? Boy, that's a really tough one right now. I got another one. So they get a big round of applause for that question. That way I just like to throw that in there shorty Let's go to the opener and this is Sergei Sergei's openers when he comes on stage, and he's lamenting this victory by Trump Okay folks. I know this is probably not the most joyous TJF we have had look at the frog too yes

25:51 And, you know let's face it most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad for because of the election. But there is another group a small group that we should also think about who are very excited about the legalization of pot You know what I had to think when I was just looking at him and Paige on stage, Larry Page. Like these guys... He came from a you know from Russia from the Soviet Union where the state was you know it was very controlling and it seems like somehow there's a name for this syndrome where you become like your oppressor? Well its not Stockholm Syndrome No no I don't think it's Stockholm Syndrome

26:48 But you identify with your oppressor and you become like the oppressors. Is that Stockholm? Well, it's so evident! It's like did he not learn anything? That element... Now I'm offended by everything he said because for one thing this guy is the 10th richest person in the world with 55 billion dollars He's got an 80 million dollar yacht Which is a little bigger than then pages 54 million dollar yacht And this guy's singing the blues about this situation as though it's like affecting him in any way whatsoever Let's hearsy. Here's where he's offended. This is Google yeah, but Anyway more serious note you know myself As an immigrant and a refugee

27:37 I certainly find the selection deeply offensive and, I know many of you do too. Yeah what I saw and actually went into about halfway through the Q&A it was really bizarre to hear this offended and Senjar who's I think his name he's talking about LGBTQ women blacks literally said LGBTQ women blacks is you know you're all fucked like what are you talking about? Yeah, really really alternative universe stuff the one that got me kind of the most

28:16 is the CFO Ruth Porat. Yes, uh-huh Who came on and I want to just play her then she comes out starts crying on the stage because Hillary lost And I want to play this and then I want to point something out after this in this This may have offended me more than anything Sergei said so for what it's worth I've been a very long time Hilary supporter but as Kent said the most important thing is I very much respect the outcome of the democratic process and who any one of us voted for is really not the point because the values that are held dear at this company transcend politics, because we're going to constantly fight to preserve them. I want to take you back to 8 30 p.m on Tuesday night. I was at home with friends and family watching the election returns as he started to see

29:11 the direction of the voting, I reached out to someone close to me who was at the Javits Center where the big celebration was supposed to occur in New York City. Somebody who had been working on the campaign and I just sent him a note that said are you okay? It looks like it's going the wrong way and I got back a very sad short text that read people are leaving staff is crying we're gonna lose That was the first moment I really felt like we were going to lose. It was this massive kick in the gut that we were going to lose and it was really painful, and the thing that hit me—and I've talked about it here before—was like Sergei, my father was a refugee when he moved into this country as a child what I was always told is he fought hard worked hard

30:08 my sister and brother and I to this country because he wanted us to grow up in a place unlike what he had, where you could never be discriminated against based on who you were the color of your skin your religion, your beliefs. And that's the thing that kept going through my head on Tuesday. Okay so sad for her Let me give you the background of this woman her refugee status. Maybe her dad or maybe there's something that went on before this, but she was born to a Jewish family in Saleh, Greater Manchester England the daughter of Dr Dan and Frida Porat She moved at a young age to Cambridge. This is her...she's a refugee herself she moved to a young age to Cambridge Massachusetts where her father

30:58 was a research fellow in the physics department at Harvard. Her father later relocated the family to Palo Alto, California where he worked at the Slack National Accelerator Lab for 26 years." Poor her! This woman... Poor her! Immigrant from England. This immigrant from England I will mention a couple of things about her that we should know Besides being on the board of trustees at Stanford, a member of the board of the Stanford Management Company borrowing advisory committee to United States Treasury. She was almost named as treasury secretary. She is not!

31:37 On the count just, just on the Council of Foreign Relations. She is on the board of directors of the Council on Foreign Relations Oh really? Hmm she is a agenda setter. An elite agenda setter Poor poor little immigrant from England Poor little immigrant girl, elite, elite. Who is she kidding? She is incredibly offensive for this spiel and for her crying about the we lost. We didn't lose! Hillary lost! I find this woman to be extremely offensive. And everybody that was up on the dais they're all billionaires

32:21 And they're up on the dais singing the blues. I like that at one point, I think one of the questions was can we up the mat or like the tax-free gifts? We give to ACLU which apparently they're all maxed out at $6000 nice All right, let's get two more little clips in. This one got me this is the woman who was a head of ER which they call people she's the chief people officer or something corny like that and she just made this little offhanded comment which And I have a book, I didn't get any clues from this one girl who came out with all the globalist spiel. But i got the sense that the whole company is globalists if you listen to Google woman on Brexit. Much as Googlers earlier this year when I was in London tried to understand the vote of the British people to exit to the European Union

33:13 And just like with Brexit, I'm seeing Googlers who are full of fear. They're full of fear about the future. They're full of fear about what the uncertainty means for them and their families And so since I'm in PeopleOps, a lot of the questions are how the Trump presidency might impact things like benefits and visas and jobs. So there's a tremendous amount we don't know. I would just advise us all to be calm. There is a G-Com place that you can go to it just take a breath. A G-Com place. Take a breath at your g-com station. There was a lot of this stuff in there. It's really culty, like I have a lot of people have asked if they can move to Canada and work it good would they want to be googly and can't...a lot of this uh i know the googliness of you is not so googly moogley right now but the Googlers have to beat into Googly Canada

34:12 And we'll take care of that because your same-sex partners may not be googly with the new a googly administration. Very, very odd. What happened to the guys who just have a great search engine? Their whole thing is like all they want to do is save the world We are going to say over yeah They want to save the world in a globalist fashion this woman who goes on about Brexit You don't understand why the British people voted for Brexit I mean, yeah not all of them did but a lot of them do. You don't understand even one reason to do that? They don't understand any of this... Nazis! Nazis! The Nazis have mind-controlled them through the alt right media which we need to block and last but not least We have this guy Is it's the privilege guy? Google Privilege Guy Okay, I know what I mean

35:04 a broad issue, I mean beyond Trump specifically who many of us find very offensive. But you know as much and I know there are number of Hillary supporters here and a lot people might view her more broadly the Democratic Party being also very polarized than having its own set of issues so higher quality governance would benefit everyone Okay, we have two more questions. I guess okay be super fast yes or sorry I'll take one at each mic sorry sir maybe Speaking to white men there's an opportunity for you right now to understand your privilege in the society Take the opportunity to go through the bias busting training read about privilege Read about the real history of oppression in our country and tomorrow night watch 13th The movie that is here if you can't watch it here Watch It on Netflix

35:56 Discuss the issues you're passionate about during Thanksgiving dinner and don't back down and laugh it off when you hear the voice of oppression speak through Metaphors, and I promise to do this What? Whatever it is. Yes! I love that promise! Last question yes What the hell was that all about well he promises to do it He's gonna watch the movie 13th So, here we go. Now we got this guy and he's a... I guess the company has something called bias blessings or bias something? Busting! Busting! Bias busting. That's what it was. Yeah. Bias busting so you go take the training. This all again by the way sounds a lot more like Scientology. Is this like self-emolulation where you whip yourself? Yes, we torch ourselves on fire. Anyway…

36:49 Hey, let's do that too. Yeah, self-flagellation. Yeah, flagellation would be more like it. Anyway the point is is that these guys are so they're like this is like a cult like none other I've ever seen. It is pretty frightening. They have and you're in or you're out just like Scientology in a lot of ways but I can think of a million other cults most of the religious cults this seems more like one of those bias busting, it's all code. A lot of code words and I... And then this guy did if you listen to this thing overall the guy saying everything that people should do and what he's gonna do and then he says I'm gonna do it This is an affirmation Yes So he reads out loud his affirmation and then he says he's going to do it They all give him a round of applause like you would in a cult because you're all-in You know what this reminds me before we go there? We know what reminds me

37:45 The death of Stalin. Isn't it exactly like that? There's a death of Stalin aspect to it, right? If you haven't seen the movie, you have to see The Death Of Stalin. Yeah, The Death Of Stalin is one of the really great movies made in the last few years. Anyway they had... at the beginning of this, at the beginning when Sergei Kermit the Frog and Ray Romano came out He said, we got to talk about this. We gotta talk about it. We gotta talk about it and then just before he goes to this guy says that make it quick make it quick right? It tells the guy to get on this get on and get off. We don't have time for you Yeah So I thought they were only wanted to do is talk They want to dolly CEO of the CEO and they wanted to project their yeah. Oh, yeah You talking when you see they had the blue shirt blue microphone pop screen yellow shirt yellow microphone plop screen

38:42 Did you catch that? Oh, I missed the yellow shirt. But I noticed it but i didn't think about it being thematic very good yeah they had a blue mic and a yellow microphone with a yellow ball on it to match his yellow t-shirt if you and I were you know had you know of course I would have the 80 million dollar yacht you'd have the 54 million dollar yacht even we wouldn't be that maniacal to color coordinated microphones We'd go pretty far I'm sure But I don't think we'd go that far. Yeah, that's pretty far. I think i should have a yellow mic because I'm going to be wearing the yellow t-shirt but can you give me a yellow mic? That way I'll match my t-shirt... But I just want to remind everybody

39:23 That throughout all of this and we'll talk more about the purge and Alex Jones And the thing is none of this matters it will take 10 years, but everyone circumvents this stuff They're not important Google is not important if you really believe the internet doesn't exist and you can't survive without Google Then what are you doing? There's a million different way. I mean sure there's tons of people who base their business baby Yes right There's a lot of people who, just grep away. A lot of people who base their business on what Google does or actually I was you know i've been looking a lot at Instagram being of course a Facebook product but what is happening right now with Instagram it is becoming a very sophisticated version of QVC your home shopping and I know you look at Instagram from time to time but I don't know if you have an account or you just go and look at the web version? No, I do not have an account oh actually here's the joke

40:18 I act on my phone. Mm hmm. I think I have an account, but I've never accessed and I don't want my password out or you know my name. OK? So I just go on the computer. I don't do anything on the phone. I'm not a phone guy. And I go into computer and I go to Instagram when I find some somebody's got to see my Instagram. And so I look at somebody's account because anyone can scrounge through their anybody's account is not locked there by looking at photos and you look at the photos this way. Oh my God! What an idiot oh jeez By the way, first of all it's insta okay. We don't say Instagram I know I was for you for your benefit so insta but now every other person on the Insta has some kind of endorsement deal and

41:03 And this goes from Hollywood celebrities, you know like soap opera celebrities to newfound celebrities. In fact I was reading this article and let me see if I can find it. There's this young girl and she created here her 29 year old Like To Know It. And what she does is basically outsources It's like a syndication network for whatever happens to be plugged and there's a lot of these agencies where you can go and you can buy impressions because it's pretty easy to measure when someone has 20 or 30,000 followers. And they do this thing, they wear your boots, they wear your clothes... My daughter makes money doing this!

41:55 I will tell you one specific case where she had to wear a pair of boots, one post, one picture $1,000. That's outrageous. That's outrageous money boots yes, and she got to keep the boots Outrageous money and it's not secretive You know that she puts there you know sponsored And if it's a part of a campaign is sponsored And she did the whole Levi's thing for pride week and that was also based on Instagram But what happens when Instagram at a certain point says or Facebook? Oh Yeah, we need to grow some revenue. We need like another four cents per share so we're going to force you to give us a piece of the action and I can't fathom why people don't see this obviously coming down Broadway This happens on every business reminds me the cable industry where they all you know They're taking oh here yeah You can carry our shows in care networks And then all of a sudden the network's thing you know

42:56 It's like you're making a lot of money carrying our network. So yeah, we're going to charge... We'll charge you a little more. ...an ESPN. Yeah, we've seen this. And now what? You're done very well and we're gonna add a little more to that so if you want to carry ESPN, you got to pay us. It's obvious this is going to happen. I just don't understand what you know when you see the Demonetization, you think oh that's just a bunch of stupid youtubers who gives a crap about them? I've got my whole clothing business like don't you see it so obvious and So these people need to immediately move off of these platforms and move and move their audience To what I mean If you're really that interesting, and I think most aren't people will follow you on your own website. I think you kind of summarized the problem. Of course I did! That's fine there will be a number of people who are like us we don't need Twitter We don't need Facebook. I'm not even on Facebook anymore. We don't need it. We don't need them for distribution. We don't need them for promotion

43:54 I mean we have, so if we got kicked off MailChimp it would suck but i'm sure we could create a... We could go to Constant Contact and we have people in our audience that can do this work. We've got dudes named Ben who would be more than happy to set up a major domo list server for us you know? It's like all this stuff exists! We don't need it no one really needs it but the people yet respond and react like they're God and whereas we know the advertiser is god And that will come back to haunt these companies too. Well, not really because well we've seen this you know the sleeping giants type of operations and people calling out advertisers for being placed on certain platforms or websites and advertisers they may be stupid but they don't want any part of it and they pull immediately dumb okay Oh controversy go away I don't need it except for Nike they have course seek it out

44:52 Well, Nike's one of the smartest marketing companies we've ever seen. Yes! I mean that whole swoosh thing is ludicrous Do you think-? I have an idea let's make this stupid looking thing We'll call it a swoosh and we'll make it synonymous so when people see it they'll automatically like Pavlov's dog Think Nike Oh bullcrap That's never gonna work They were one of the first for sure I don't know if this uh... If Kaepernick works for them I guess, I think it must. Yeah, I'm sure it does. It probably does. He had a shoot deal with him to begin with and he still has it. But while we're talking about this... I am going to push my favorite clip of the day even though you may or may not reward it and I don't like doing that. Right at the beginning? Or trying to force it? I mean its pretty brazen to say I deserve Clip Of The Day but I'm sure you haven't heard this

45:51 This is a two minute and 13 second clip. I would wish you wouldn't interrupt it Okay, you got because it's just dynamite and let me just give a preface. I picked this up off of some this was An audio clip where I don't believe this was ever made into a video? I'm not even sure if this isn't Alex Jones clip Mm-hmm. I'm not even sure this is Alex Jones But there's no reason to suggest it's not in his him promoting He's bitching about the fact that Twitter kicked him off and now he's talking about some of the other places you can find him. But he's gone completely... This is the classic Alex Jones as we know him. Folks, it's Alex Jones here without her The New World Order has made its move That's not Alex Jones I could tell you right now that is not Alex Jones It could be Colbert but there isn't

46:43 There is no a couple of moments in here. It sounds so much like Alex Jones I find it hard to believe Although when you hear the ISO, which also have and some of the other stuff that's in here Yeah, this is pretty just ridiculous but it's believable to me This is a major inflection point in the history not only of the United States Constitution, but of Anglo-Saxon common law going all the way back to the Magna Carta. We are seeing a curtailment of human rights here! You know I'm as guilty as an ex one. I sat back and let this happen First they came for Alex Jones And i said nothing because I was Alex Jones! New World Order scum

47:29 We have access to a number of platforms. They've removed us from Twitter, they removed us from Facebook! They really... We are still on Tinder we are incredibly undateable but we have 200 thousand followers on Tinder. We always swipe right I have a presence on Shazam you can try and find me there whatever you Shazam i always try an tell ya that what it actually sounds like is a New World Order conspiracy You can find me on Twitch, folks. I will be on Twitch! I will be live streaming games of Cuphead where I will be a playable demon!! I am the demon!!! AHHHHH!!!! RRRRAAAAGHHH!!!! I'm being tortured alive! I have chosen this life...of torture!

48:22 I am not afraid of you, demons that i made up in my mind. You can find us on Redfin we still have presents on redfins what we have to do is put up real estate listings and that's the only way we get all the truth out by the time people come look at a house and it turns out we're valid! We're on IMDB they cant take that down im in a number of richard linkletter movies I HAVE A PRESENCE ON IMDB! THEY'RE FOLLOWING ME ON IMDB We've been locked out of Apple Music and Spotify so I have to do my own Darth Vader march. WE'RE ON MY SPACE! WE'RE ON TRIMSTER! YOU WILL FIND THE TRUTH! The best part was the troll room for at least half the clip is like, it's not him it's not him.

49:20 Now, whoever that was and it may have been Colbert because he does the best work. No! Colbert's not that good. That was not Colbert. He couldn't sustain damage to their voice Probably first of all I'll give it to you. I'm generous Because you congratulated me with my proposal You get Clip of the Day If you hadn't done that Congratulations again. I'll take another clip later now Whoever did that damaged his voice. That is or his or her possibly Possibly I don't say you like the demon ISO can play though? Yeah

50:04 I have a bit of... are you done with this? Because i do have some Alex Jones here. We're on Twitch! Yeah, we're on Twitch! We're on Tinder! That was funny, I like that. This is NPR. Twitter has permanently suspended conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his InfoWars channel from its platform. InfoWars famously promoted the fraudulent idea that the Sandy Hook shooting was faked It took Twitter a month longer to ban Jones than it did Apple, Facebook, YouTube even Pinterest. To all barred Jones last month. It's just as funny as what that guy was doing there banned from Pinterest. Washington Post technology policy reporter Tony Rom is with us now to talk about this. Hey Tony! Thanks for having me.

50:53 I think he's... Alex Jones has said a whole lot of very offensive things over the years. Trafficked in hate speech and conspiracy theories, many of these have transpired on Twitter What was it that finally got him banned from this particular platform? Yeah Twitter said that Jones at Infowars simply crossed the line and when twitter announced this in a series You gotta listen to this And I remember what the clip is about now Crossed The Line Simply remember they have all these rules and terms of service or community the community Standards now, it's just you cross the line buddy. He's a tweets yesterday It didn't point to his specific thing that Jones and Infowars had done over the better part of the past 24 hours But it wasn't the first time that he had violated the rules And when I spoke with somebody at Twitter They said one thing that weighed very heavily on them was

51:44 the way that Jones conducted himself outside of a congressional hearing where Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey was testifying about the way that the company moderates content online. Jones essentially went after Republican Senator Marco Rubio, interrupted one of his press conferences he yelled at Dorsey at one point as he was trying to leave the building and then he live streamed an incident where he was attacking a CNN reporter calling verbal insults on him. That video was broadcast on Periscope which is a live streaming site owned by Twitter so in the minds of the company essentially was too much. He had gone too far and so they kicked him off the site. Interesting, although you mentioned that video was streamed on Periscope a lot of this was happening IRL right like in real life not even on the Twitter platform and they're like still this has to stop now. So

52:28 This is important. Yeah, in IRL, in real life on the Insta. She said IRL. She said IRL yes because... Amen Tris Bump! Because she's on the Insta that's why she says IRL everybody. Yeah it has to stop and Twitter has talked about this in the past that it definitely thinks about content in real life, the things you do off-the site when it makes decisions about how they handle your content on the site How bout' that huh? Huh? This guy has a womanly voice. I've talked about this before on the show, it's one of those examples when you first start playing that clip right there again the same guy? I thought it was the female. Okay I told you the guy saying there's a lot of men's voices are taking the higher register and there's been a number of discussions on TV in fact about women's voices taking your lower register. Oh yeah we're totally, pukers were swapping baby! We're swapping that's what happened well we're swapping men or men? Men are women women are man who the hell knows let's go it can be great but

53:25 Listen to what they're saying here, that Twitter acknowledges that how you act IRL in real life is just as important for them in determining if you're on their platform. Interesting. Although you mentioned that video was streamed on Periscope, a lot of this was happening IRL right? Like in real life not even on the Twitter platform and they're like still this has to stop. Yeah it has to stop and Twitter has talked about this in the past that it definitely thinks about content in real life, things you do off-the-set site when it makes decisions about how to handle your content on the site. Because Twitter recognizes that if you're promoting harassment, if you're spreading hate speech, it's the sort of thing that could affect real users and could have a serious impact on them and their health and safety. And in the past Twitter has yelled at Jones for precisely this behavior. The last time he got into trouble was at the end of August. Twitter imposed a seven-day suspension because Jones took to a video and said that he encouraged his supporters to take up

54:21 battle rifles against journalists and people on the left. The last time he got in trouble at the end of August, Twitter imposed a seven-day suspension because Jones took to a video and said that he encouraged his supporters battle rifles against journalists and people on the left, and some of his very critics. That to Twitter was a threat of violence is the sort of thing that the company has been under pressure clamp down on." I told you! I told you that would become a whole different story and now the lie is set in stone on NPR your public this supported by people like you. Your national treasure. Yes

55:01 That's just, that's the part I hate the most. And I love how he said Twitter yelled at him where is this guy from? Twitter yelled at him reprimanded might be a word you use in a news report but this is not news In fact NPR has gone so off the rails But I want to stick with The Purge for a moment if we're done with Jones which I think we are You know what I wanted What's that? You got what you wanted? They got what I wanted You've got your clip of today baby You probably heard of this, I think we've talked about this guy Roush Valizade. He's a pickup artist and he writes all these... Yeah the big pickup artists guy! He is probably a misogynistic dick but I guess he has these books like Bang Stockholm you know Bang Belarus and he tells you how to pick up girls in different cities or countries so he is being purged off Amazon

56:00 Yeah, and create space. Here's a clip of him I've chopped this down just to make it interesting for us It started on Friday now even though game came out on Friday This is him speaking he's doing his own little video podcast A lot of guys were finding it before then and buying it so when it launched on Friday game was already ranked in the top 10-10 thousand So it was doing very well. And I think someone in Amazon noticed that because I got this email on Friday and the email says, during our review process we found that the subject matter of your book is in violation of our content guidelines and this was in reference to The Best of Ruch, Bang Iceland and Bang Poland

56:44 So here I am releasing a new book on Friday and then Amazon bans three of my other books. So, it was little bit uneasy because once the seal is broken, once they start banning one book it's easy to bang 100 thousand after that. Sure enough Sunday I guess they sent me another email And this time, they banned five books. And with the same excuse they banned Bang Estonia, Bang Lithuania, Bang Ukraine 30 bangs and Pussy. And the thing that gets me when you see this guy is how is this guy banging anything?

57:27 You look at this guy like, what? Paradise. And when they banned the first three books I tried to get some answers from them and they just kept vaguely referring to their content guidelines here They say I'm sorry but we can't offer any additional insight or action on this matter What guidelines are they talking about well It's pretty vague They don't accept pornography which i don't sell obviously They don't sell offensive content. Well, what is offensive content? Here's what they say about it What we deem offensive is probably about what you would expect And he's showing the screenshot of that being their actual guidelines Which is fair It's just like why who gives you what is there problem? What happened? How does this I mean you can figure out what happened someone complained and

58:23 Some no now. I think someone outside the camera, I think an SJW in the company Oh in the company Mm-hmm saw this and she was a you know to run the water cooler or who knows what she were What her position is could be anything mm-hmm? And they decided to just band the guy and look like we do that Yeah We're just Bantam hell with him Helen male pig It's all this is just baffling to me What are you doing who cares oh Well, just the social justice warriors care. Yeah yeah I wound up with a lot of social justice warrior stuff for some reason oh yes this is actually quite important because we'll probably be hearing about this today being a show day maybe tomorrow being the final day there's a conference going on right now in New York City and

59:18 Actually, that's something I would have if I were in New York. I would have tried to go to this I don't know if I'd be welcome This is a technology summit it's called lesbians who tech And it's big, and here is a little trailer they have. This event is like the crystallization of my entire world view all in one place! Woohoo! Not as big flashy words like It's happening New York! Yeah! People are at the top of their game here on so many different topics such an elite expert set of speakers

59:57 If you're coming as an attendee, you're going to meet incredible people. You're gonna be inspired by perspectives that you didn't have It takes us making the noise and pushing and never taking the no to change it So you get to come here, focus on the thing you love and be around people that have so much in common with you. Where your women surround you in such a supportive incredible way and I think that's the magic of why people keep coming back So, no lesbians who tech conference would be complete without a fireside chat with Hillary Clinton which we're desperately waiting for. I don't know if it happens tonight or if it happens tomorrow night but this is a very interesting conference mainly because it seems like a great conference If you look at their

1:00:54 If you look at the sessions that they have, this is a real very interesting technology conference certainly for New York. Is everyone a lesbian? Yes! It sounds like it's a little bit exclusive. It sounds...it's very exclusionary and I'm looking at the website right now which is lesbianswhotech.org What does tech mean? Is it tech? T-E-C-H. They use a tech, well how do you tech? Yeah I know well they tech I don't know lesbians... Well how do you tech? I'm asking you if i said hey Adam go tech what would that mean to you? Well then your doing tech stuff

1:01:37 But what does that mean? You're just using your phone, you're making a phone call. Is that... Because that is unfortunately not in the FAQs but I'm sure that Leanne Pittsford the founder and CEO would be very happy to tell you if you called her for an interview Maybe it's code for something else! But on the website question number one do i have to be a lesbian to attend That's what I was interested in. Lesbians Who Tech is committed to convening queer women in technology and our allies, in a vibrant and inclusive community We work together to promote the visibility and inclusion of women LGBTQ people And the people from other backgrounds underrepresented in technology If you work to move the mission forward we want you on our team

1:02:27 Nobody has to be a lesbian to be in the community. We use the term to honor those who crossed a firewall with it." Not quite sure what they're saying, but of all the pictures I've seen there's no straight white dudes to be found so i don't feel so welcome How do we show LGBTQ and allied pride? Well, we create a culture of vibrant inclusion when we make spaces for ourselves and others to be influential. If we have larger shares of privilege, we show allied pride by making space to support others. We show pride when we hire people, finance projects, create opportunities and share resources. We show pride when we work to move our community forward together. Also don't understand much what that meant!

1:03:18 But it seems like a very, very exclusionary club and it's sad really that it comes to this. Because it looks like a good conference seriously they got a lot of good tracks Have you ever learned anything at one of these conferences? I've learned some things yeah within the last decade No well here let me see what they have Oh, this is interesting. About lesbians who tech plus allies okay February 2014 they were made official then they had 40 000 members 42 plus chapters worldwide the LWTSQAD leadership program

1:04:04 Oh, that's Lesbians Who Tech Squad. Okay then they got the Ed Windsor Coding Scholarship Program Then they have White House LGBTQ tech Lesbians Who Tech on an Airplane? Nice I think you're right it was code and bring a lesbian to work day nice What?! You gotta see this website! But if you look at the tracks, they got blockchain, cryptocurrency, cybersecurity AI machine learning the future of work preparing your organization for automation. The cyber threat landscape makes this even remotely interesting now you never go to anything but anyway the Hillary Clinton fireside chat will be interesting and we hope to hear that very soon. Gee I wonder what she's going to talk about herself? About what happened...of course! Yeah well what happened

1:05:00 And there was another event where Bob Woodward was in New York a couple days ago at the something-something Y and he's gonna be interviewed by this character that I don't have his name handy but They actually broke some news here and I thought that this would be the, uh... This is the—I didn't even listen to The Woodward. I didn't pay any attention to anything but this one short clip. Go podcasting! We also have a special announcement about our moderator tonight Just today he announced that he is leaving The Slate Group To launch a podcast company with Malcolm Gladwell And who was it?

1:05:36 I don't know. It sounds like a horrible announcement! Well, sorry we can be here he's launching a podcasting company oh we're so sorry to hear that thing but what he said is not you know he's just a suit and tie guy you know looks like a classic you know worker journalist, worker CIA guy. And he's launching a podcasting company with Malcolm Gladwell who is already doing podcasting of sorts. Okay explain Malcolm Gladwell. Malcolm Gladwell is the tipping point guy. He is the writer that has this huge afro

1:06:21 And he writes nothing but bestsellers, short best sellers like The Tipping Point and a bunch of other books. All of them make a lot of money and he talks like this... He's very good for NPR because it will keep you enthralled because there is not really a lot of money left for screaming and yelling. Yes I know its fantastic And and when we do that I should put you left, and I'll be right. That's that's the totally NPR way Think I could do it Go over here okay? Yes, okay? Where are you John all right talk to me anyway? Yes, okay? News I don't get it can't believe it I did I can't believe he wouldn't do your NPR voice while I was doing left and right doesn't matter with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John Singh

1:07:11 The C stands for center of the speakers, Dvorak. I was noticing that I was missing something. Dan, in the morning to you Mr Adam McCreary In the morning all the boots in the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes! In the morning to The Troll Room, noagendastream.com Thank you for being here helping me with my early morning crackles if you don't know what that means check into noagendastream.com every Thursday and Sunday morning as we bring you the show live And I'd also like to say in the morning too comic strip blogger and Scott Adams who combined brought us the artwork in a remixed version for episode 1067 this was the double header where you John, John C

1:07:57 did brought us two interviews one with Scott Adams famous cartoonist futurist hypnotists and a Trump apologist as I just had to do that yeah well you know why not they also Dane Jaspers is it Jaspers Dane Jasper the dame jasper from Sonic net which I actually had to set a few people straight on the tweeters. It's like oh nice native advorak What do you think people thinking? Yeah, I don't know they just say they don't like us did we get a check from Dane? I wish Did you ask him well maybe I should have yeah, I'd like both comes up in the conversation quite a bit there are products that we like and

1:08:54 and people that we like, and if we like it would just do a... yeah maybe it is a puff piece. But its not that you know were doing for money, were not... Hold on! Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa No, but I got accused of it being a native ad. I personally thought it was the puff piece. Okay. All right. But it was interesting... The only reason it was the puff piece is because I didn't know anything—the reason I did this call It's because I said, well let me get an interview in while doing this because you need an interview for this is missing show. And I just wanted to know how the technology works and what it's called and all the details about what the kind of... Because I started looking into it there was like all kinds of different ways that this has done. So you could have just called the help desk but instead you did an interview? Is what your saying

1:09:51 from the guy who's doing it. So I had, so I found out what kind of gear is used and I tried to figure out whether I can replace...I'm looking to see oh okay! I see what that is. Okay can I replace that with something better? I'm always thinking to myself and apparently not at this point. I thought it was interesting to listen too. I enjoyed it very much and I really liked the Scott Adams interview and um I like that format where it's very conversational. It sounds like you're in a room with somebody It's not a real. Yeah, I know it's not at all the style of the show Typically but I like that so it was very enjoyable to me Thank you for abusing my my disability For cheap laugh in your show oh yes We did mention because I thought Scott had Tourette's and he didn't know that he does He does now she does now and now he's gonna be concerned about it

1:10:47 But the story about him not being able to speak and you know, they cut the nerves in his neck and then he couldn't speak for three-and-a-half years. Holy crap! And you wouldn't know it when you listen to the guy today... And at some point yeah, really all of his stories, entire story makes up for some of the pompous asses can be at one point like I'm a great hypnotist. I am great And they're like, yeah you are actually. Shit he's kind of great and it should have added I'm humble that he should add that to his roster. I am humble but it was very interesting and I learned a lot about him and things I never knew and the fact that he was the one that showed you the world wide web was interesting. The more you know type fact

1:11:44 Yes, this is a long than 93. It's when I first ran into him and I saw him a few times since but then I guess they haven't seen him for a decade or long enough that I missed his whole can speak thing and I wanted to get the story and you know what? That was actually stunned by this so I didn't realize there was three-and-a-half years of not being able to talk But being able to talk fine Wow Anyway, but you know and so the kind of guy he is then you know this comic strip blogger comes up with a You know a cool version of Dilbert with 40% which is how much business? He says. He's lost because of his analysis of Trump and Now I knew we were like oh it was great as perfect. Oh let's ask him anything Yes Yeah most cartoonists. I think they're kind of anal about that stuff aren't they

1:12:33 But what about money they make no no, no about someone using their art and changing it and using it for different purpose I asked for permission you did but I thought that was nice that he said yes so that shows. He's a good guy Yeah many of the artists are very yeah They're freaky about it And I know for a fact when in the early days of the internet in the probably late 90s Scott was actually Tracking down anyone who is posting reposting any sure and then threatening him with a shaking his fist I don't know what else you could do And I didn't know anything about his food business, and how he had screwed that up It was very similar to me where I you know. I had this I'd lots of money, and I had a helicopter fractional ownership company and 9-11 happens like that was the beginning of a long slide and

1:13:20 No one was using private aviation for a while after 9-11 and that's when his restaurants, the restaurant he had in some crazy place with horrible lease and he just tanked on that. A lot of stuff you don't know about that guy Yeah, I did. Yeah, I had worked on...I spent a couple probably...I had a file open and every once in awhile question would come to mind and put it in there. Hey how many other interesting friends can we interview before they're dead or we are? I got quite a few. I just have to do it. Give me one name that would be interesting Who's a good name that would be interesting? Well, I know who'd be interesting to me. Uh-huh And I want to do him

1:14:03 So to speak, this guy, this guy Draper. Yes. This guy drapers 90 something and he runs a wine. He's one of the original wine importers in California and he knows everything about the wine industry. And he finally opened up a small shop because you know I'm thinking with all these interviews now I have a couple people I can call, you know we've got a product Maybe not. It's our exit strategy! Once again, we're gonna get out of this thing rich if it kills us But let's thank people who have supported the show. This is for two episodes, seeing as we had your special double header and of course we're doing the show... We're back on schedule once again. The show here from Italy, the next show on Sunday will be from Switzerland and then the show on Thursday after that will be from The Netherlands so we're definitely putting in the effort to continue the best podcast in the universe

1:15:03 So, yes. This is for two episodes so there'll be a little longer than usual especially the second reading but the first reading starts off with Sir Bradley the protectorate of the outer cyber realm. Ah Yes Who came in with $1,000? Whoa! So he's a baron now He must be a Baron and must be more than that. Did he call for that? He didn't request it. Wait, Viscount P-something He doesn't say anything. It's just another dude named Ben here Thank you for the salvation and entertainment shout out to Mark Klein of Barron County for hitting me in the mouth a while back Please throw a little job karma my way and keep kicking ass title sir Bradley protectorate of the outer cyber already Thought he was at night already let me check let me see if there's something that I'm missing on the Maybe I'm missing something on this spreadsheet here. Let me check

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1:25:02 And remember, another show. The next one will be from Switzerland, Luzerne Switzerland and that'll be on Sunday so remember us at... And you've learned so much about Italian lifestyle kids in the pool it's all part of our formula Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth You know uh..we have a shut up slave we have Sabina

1:25:39 Who was my niece remember she did the Italian one let me see if I have that Italian shut up slave. Let me see hmm which had that don't think I have it here for some reason She's a little girl yeah, but she you know she said 18 oh She can't do that voice anymore. No, she talks like all women. 18 and beautiful! Oh my god you're the kid from Shut Up Slave in Italian? I can't believe i don't have that on this machine for some reason...I gotta have to do a full sync of this anyway.. I've been paying attention uh to what's happened been happening in Sweden

1:26:22 A lot of our we have we have producers in Sweden, of course in the surrounding countries Scandinavian countries and the EU in general there's lots of people interested in what's happening up a little bit north and They had an election which I don't think was quite fully understood. What is exact exactly? What is happening in Sweden but first will go to a A M5M report, this is CBC News about Sweden their recent election and their uncertain future. Well the coalitions on both the center left and the center right in Sweden have lost ground including Prime Minister Stefan Löfven his group on the center-left

1:27:01 But the far right, the anti-immigration party, the Sweden Democrats have gained ground. Their leader has said in effect that they won. Notice by the way that the far right is actually called the Democrats, the Swedish Democrats very interesting how these... how these parties are titled and named in different countries, and what they stand for. But the far right, the anti-immigration party, the Sweden Democrats have gained ground their leader has said in effect they won! In fact, they didn't actually win but the far right did manage to increase its portion of the vote from about 13% last time almost 18 percent in this election and here's how do you see that result?

1:27:45 What we've seen here is a political earthquake in regards to Swedish political history. And I think that the leaders of the two big parties, the Social Democrats and the Moderate Party need to listen to these people, need to change the policies that the Swedish people want to see. They want to see real change A few things worth underscoring here, for a long time Sweden has been considered a bastion of social liberalism and this party the sweden democrats have their roots in the neo-nazi movement an anti immigration party they want to sound familiar refugees to return back to their native countries

1:28:23 and they no longer want Sweden to accept any more refugees or asylum seekers coming in. Now keep in mind, Sweden took in 163 thousand asylum seekers back just in 2015 and that is the biggest percentage of the population compared to all other EU countries and if you want to compare that to Canada, compare apples-to-apples here with Canada's population it would have been like Canada taking in 592 thousand asylum seekers in one year Rashmi. In Sweden this far right party seems just found a way to capitalize on real concern in the country regarding all those newcomers okay so that's kind of the M5M take on it obviously we got the Nazis horrible anti immigration blah

1:29:07 But when you really dig down into what's happening in Sweden, and for this I'm going to turn us to a podcast. And I think it is valid and relevant in this case because we really don't know much about Sweden other than exactly what you heard in that report. Sweden is like next to Denmark the happiest people on earth everything great, there's no poverty. It's fantastic free health care, free schooling it's just everyone looks cute you know sex is fantastic the food is fishy just whatever it is Sweden's the best ever and it turns out that Sweden has also slowly degraded into a shithole country which on the Deconstructive Critique podcast

1:29:56 In this case it's Jens Ganneman and Aaron Flum. They did this one in English, which I'm very happy about. Swedish sounds like a Dutch person speaking Dutch while drunk so I can pick up a few words here and there but they did this one in English and I thought it was interesting what they do is trace back what has been happening in Sweden to the time when Trump said Look at what's going on in Sweden. You recall that everyone went, What the hell is he talking about? Sweden's the best country ever! They give us ABBA they write songs for Britney Spears I mean you nuts this is Sweden you're talking about

1:30:35 And of course that's how we see Sweden. So these guys kind of lift the veil, I'm sure they're biased, you know...I think they actually have been called out by state-run mainstream media as these guys are problematic and part of the problem They actually talk about it. I think most media in, I don't know if they have commercial television? I'm not sure but they do talk about the Swedish run TV and the collusion between The press and the government so i'll start. I just have two quick clips The first one again is Jens and Aaron, and this is... They're talking about after how Trump kind of gave license to people to speak the truth about what was going on in Sweden after he said that. So we were famous before for a very small country at the edge of the world with almost no impact on world affairs We're very famous That's true And then we are famous for a very special reason aren't we? Which is

1:31:38 We're the best country in the world. The most progressive, the most equal, the most gender neutral. Yeah true and that's why journalists after Trump felt that they could critique It was open season on Sweden from that point and we became the focal point for criticism that had to do with failed integration and rising crime, and we became the quote-unquote rape capital of the world. But what Trump said was essentially a starting point for pundits like Paul Joseph Watson, Stefan Molinie – what's his name? You know… Molinier. Exactly, Molinier.

1:32:20 said it's okay to badmouth Sweden. So that was a starting point in essence, but I think we need to set the record straight there because these people said that Sweden was almost Orwellian society where journalists lied and politicians lied, and we had huge problems with immigration and integration. But it's not as bad as they said... It's worse! So we need to set the record straight there. After Trump said his famous words about last night in Sweden, all the Swedish newspapers went out he's crazy nothing happened last night and the night after he had said that... There was riots and car-carbicues? Carbicues! That's a new word. Yeah it is good one

1:33:12 There's been like I think 16,000 burned cars for the past 10 years something like that. Yes statistics That's between three and four day Yeah It happens all of them Sweden is a very small country we should point that out and it's not a very I mean not at least when it comes to the urban areas. Not everyone has a car Exactly and Sweden is about as big as a mid-sized American state with 10 million people So if you have like three or four car burnings every night all year round that's a lot of cars that that That someone for a decade Yeah, but the journalists in Sweden they

1:33:50 Talk about this problem as if the cars sort of spontaneous combustion. Yes, it's not like Someone set fire to the cars the cars suddenly burst into flames because of socio-economic variables I find this fascinating we had no and we heard about a couple car fires. I didn't know was 16,000 That's a lot and are these all Volvos? And do Volvo's burn poorly or well? I mean I'd like you know Well, they have a lot of Saabs and a lot of BMWs there. Most of the Volvos go to California. Wait! They don't make Saab's anymore? I thought Saab was dead... No, but they still have them on the road. Those cars that they make in Sweden last 10-20 years. I've been looking at the new Volvo's. I think that they're getting sexier. If you're over 50.

1:34:41 So now in the second clip, they'll talk about these photographers who were hired by the government to do well. You'll hear it before you continue. I'm glad you got this clip because one of the things that's been baffling to me is that you hear at the one side of the story and various blogs about the mess that Sweden has become right? And then you hear the official story which is Oh, you know it's just they're just making you know it's all bullcrap. You know they're exaggerating this is the same thing with a South African story It's always right I don't understand how they think didn't get away with this if it's not true It's and this is why I think I predict more or less that you and I will be finding more podcast material in the future

1:35:28 especially from other countries. It's really, really helpful to just hear... Now have I checked the statistic of 16,000? No but i'm going to think they're pretty close to being realistic about this There's just a, it is completely the opposite when you hear about what journalists in this case photojournalists are doing to for some reason maintain the image and I certainly don't think that... What is the point of this? I don't know. Well listen to the clip and then we'll discuss After Trump said that about Sweden bunch of Swedish photographers decided to disprove Trump, right? And we have museums here. And in Sweden, museums are owned and funded by the state. Right. So we have in Stockholm, we have a very popular museum is called the Museum of photography needs the only popular museum because Swedes can't appreciate art if it's not you know an exact

1:36:22 representation of what they see in their daily lives. So they love photography, and they go to see the photography museum right? And a lot of photographers in Sweden famous photographers got some sort of I suppose assignment from the government or from the museum to produce pictures to disprove image of It kind of ended weirdly, but you got the idea that they did all these pictures to disprove what Trump was saying. Well yeah Sweden's beautiful! You can take great beautiful pictures of Sweden as long as you avoid the car-b-queues

1:37:01 Couple of things interesting in there that I didn't know one and I've been to Sweden And I did some research before I went so it wouldn't be an idiot. I've been to Stockholm once That's all once, and I'd been all over the place I went all the way up and down and had a miss a Miss Lee bead rail I had a miss Sweden hit on me once but she was 60 And it was before all this, what's going on now. Is this comment that he made that Swedes don't like art because they're all into realism so the only art they would like would be hyper-realism which some people do. It is not an unknown form of oil painting in fact its very popular and in some instances some people are extremely talented at doing it but so they like photographs

1:37:52 So they I wonder if there's got to be something to that because that if you don't like art, you're like just like realism or photographs You would maybe be more susceptible to government propaganda Oh very possible. If you're only into realism then I'm sure reality television could do a lot to you Interesting point. The Swedish situation, you gotta stay on these guys and with their podcast. Yeah I will. This whole situation has been baffling to me yeah I mean i've seen documentaries where they say... Hold on why is it baffling? Why is this happening all over Europe? Why wouldn't the number one social justice wait Sweden the social justice country of the world why wouldn't they be all in on all this stuff that's ruining everything

1:38:43 It's baffling to me because it is such an extreme. It's like nothing sneaking, I mean there is no except for this clip you've got and then that just leaks out of some blogs and the blogs are condemned for being lying Nazis! And so I'm finding this Sweden thing to be the most problematic of all, the whole entire situation. Well, I hope these guys keep doing podcasts in English because it's very informative and it's... you know the more you know! Well if they are encouraged maybe they'll do one day. All they have to do is one a month Yeah yeah well I enjoyed it and I hope they do more in English

1:39:25 I do have something that I think you'll enjoy. What's the latest on this anonymous op-ed? I want to change my view, by the way as to who wrote it or who was the main character behind it. Well, the latest...I don't know if any of them because I do have a clip which I'm going to push off to The Sunday Show because I forgot to move it over and it surprises me that the clip was not more widely spread and didn't go viral It was a clip that Fallon had where they took pieces out of the up out of the op-ed and it then they've been They found Pence saying each one of these things. Oh, yeah, I heard about this clip. I haven't heard you don't have it I'll have it here on Sunday well first. I'm glad okay, sorry go ahead but the kicker was

1:40:16 What was that word you found it lodestone or load star? Loadstar. They caught Pence saying it in three different speeches Interesting well, let's say it's a nautical term now when that happened and they had all these other Clips from Pence but the Lodestar thing as soon as that happened I thought to myself as a writer Oh This has been planted Oh God, I can't wait to play my clip for you. It's not pants they're trying to... Yes yes yeah they're trying they're trying to make it look like pants You got that then you got was it Kimmel? Was it Kimmel who found it? No that was on Fallon. Okay so that is clearly oh my god Mockingbird to the max

1:41:02 Yeah. Okay, I have a clip that fits... That's why I would've done it as we do the same thing if I'm like hanging out in the White House and I'm the guy doing this or one of the guys are maybe not even in the White House but maybe was or whatever because you got to remember couple things about this. Stop right there! No just stop there. I have to play this clip because what you just said leads us right into this and this is a great clip for number reasons. I think Ray got this for us producer Ray NPR's Scott Simon with Jill Abramson, former editor of the New York Times. Also known as The Berkley Hummer So this clip is good- no matter what happens you know it's gonna be good because she's a hummer and just hilarious to listen to

1:41:44 But listen to what he says in the flub he makes, and this is about the anonymous op-ed in The New York Times. of the paper and opinion. So should The Times have just run a news story reporting that a high-ranking government official tried to plant an op ed with them, place an op ed? Did he say plant instead of place, and did he correct himself? Yeah. He sure did! Between the news side of the paper and opinion... So should The Times have just run a news story reporting that a high-ranking government official tried to plant an op ed with him —place an op ed— in which they say they're working around their president because they don't trust his mental fitness for office?

1:42:44 I don't think so. I think the publication of the anonymous editorial was entirely appropriate and more striking, more newsworthy because it was in the own words of the author even though he or she did not want to put their name to us. Can you imagine having sex with this woman? That's not good! A little more to the right. that's true i fear a point and for good one but also think if this person is uh... in a high-ranking position they portray themselves as functioning almost like a break system stop the worst impulses of this president and if they were gone to get another position that break that safeguard to the public would no longer be there

1:44:02 Jill Abramson, former executive editor at The New York Times. Thanks so much for being with us. Thanks so much Scott! I love the plant flub though because it makes so much sense particularly with Fallon then Neil oh look Pence says this three times perfect a couple of things i wanted to note is that one if i'm doing this say i'm working there and i can write I also know that people can identify certain characteristics in my writing. You know, it's a scam would be one of them. Right? Not a great question. Not a great question...I don't put that in my writing necessarily but I have certain quirks in my writing that people can identify and the pacing and style is a lot programs that can identify authors. Oh yes machine learning So first thing you do is look for your target like who am I going to target to make it look like he did it

1:45:00 And then I just go back and look at the record, and then I just wait for them to say something over and over. The things that Pence said over and over are all put into this thing. I put him in awkwardly...I'm gonna have to look this thing over more carefully but- Right Put him in awkwardly, nobody, no writer uses the word lodestar ever No person with a right mind But you heard Pence say it two or three times You say well imma put this in there cause this will really put the nail on the coffin of this guy And I think, you know this is a here's what happened in my opinion. If you remember during the first early six months of the Trump administration leaks were coming out left and right because they had his office bugged. Right

1:45:41 And then he moved out of the Oval Office and they did a redo, and they put some anti-surveillance work in there. And so for the next year all this stuff that was coming out bad about Trump was not really... It was either from somebody who they know who it was leaked it or it was just made up or it was disgruntled employee always bitching about their boss which is not uncommon But they lost the ability to have all these, they don't have the bugs in the office it seems to me. And so stuff like this comes out and you know this gets very carefully orchestrated at The New York Times is always a bad actor or in this thing and the fake stuff about Lodestar I'm not buying yet we do have one clip on his topic

1:46:31 Yes, I'm glad you got this. If this is Trump's voice then that's...I'm glad you got that. Oh no! I've got that too but that's not what the clip is about. I've got the FBI director talking about the memo on one of the networks The president has said he wants the Attorney General to investigate who wrote that anonymous New York Times op-ed Do you believe, as the president does that this is an issue of national security? Well first off I can tell you i didn't write it. I don't have anything to do with it Second... You weren't asked! ...I would tell you we're not really in practice of confirming or discussing whether were going to be conducting a particular investigation

1:47:11 I would tell you that we're going to make decisions about that kind of thing based on all the factors we normally do, which is whether or not we have sufficient evidence of federal crime. I want to ask you about the content of it. It described... Wait a minute! Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Whether we have evidence of a federal crime? What does that have to do with who the identity of the op-ed. Well, all he's going to tell you is that he didn't write it and nothing to do with it. Well what's this about another crime I'm gonna back it up well they did The president told these FBI look into this there must be a crime Oh okay practice so he says We're not gonna do no we're not don't worry about what we do confirming or discussing whether we're gonna be conducting a particular investigation

1:47:57 I would tell you that we're going to make decisions about that kind of thing based on all the factors we normally do, which is whether or not we have sufficient evidence of federal crime. I want to ask you about the content of it. It described the president's leadership style as quote impetuous adversarial petty and ineffective. It said that the root of the President's promise is quote amorality does that sound like the president? You know I try very hard to make sure that my relationship with the president is a professional one. And that's what i think the relationship should be between any FBI director and any president.

1:48:39 Whether it was a composite or not. I'm not gonna argue that. Because you heard Jill Abramson also say, well its the break so we have a safety break and doesn't makes everybody happy hey we got heroes in the White House yeah nothing to worry about Yeah, well this I did not like this guy because his answer to the last question should have been Not in my experience. That's your answer. I agree It's not like well, maybe a lunatic for all I know yeah He says you know the questions impetuous Adversarial petty I'm thinking when he's doing they say that what boss isn't exactly

1:49:22 Almost every CEO that you ever run into there's at least he's not a screamer, right? There used to be a couple major Silicon Valley guys that were notorious. In fact Microsoft does Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates Oh yeah They're very impetuous How about Steve Jobs people said he was a total dick Very adversarial Yeah sure Very adversarial and he would be and petty they're all that way No And but the thing that was at the end was the immorality Again, I'm not saying that this is every CEO you ever run into. A lot of them are very moral, they're religious people... Well, go ahead But a lot of them don't... their morality doesn't come into the picture management Well this kind of brings us to Me Too because we had there was some more hashtag me too stuff that came out Of course we know that Less Moon Vest is out and here's the thing

1:50:17 Less moon do you mind if I just switch over to this for a second? No, not until you play that you might as well. I gotta play Trump voice Yeah because I'm glad you got this because I didn't hear it because of the bandwidth situation and was all your love It wasn't on the dongle but I of course I knew exactly this is because he takes propitious right He slurs his words Once in awhile this comes up with yeah, that's its I forgot what it wasn't your piece. It's propitia makes his latest active resistance is the op-ed published in The Failing New York Times by an anonymous, really an anonymous, gutless coward. He tries it twice and forget about it man this just can't be done

1:51:08 do that again. And so it's interesting because you can hear the latest, you hear, first of all he doesn't know how to pronounce it. That's the big problem and then the slur kicks in. It's like a Tourette issue almost. Active resistance is the op-ed published in The Failing New York Times by an anonymous really an anonymous gutless coward. Does he think anyone says Mr President You really... it's anonymous. Is there any... does Melania say that to him? I think everyone just rolls their eyes That's sad! Mr President, please people clip this. People like us It's anonymous We understand the Propecia issue and we're very sorry about that especially I got lots of hair I got lots of hair That's pathetic That's sad

1:52:10 Twice in a row. Let's see if it happens again. Okay, so me too we've got less moon vests What's interesting and different about maybe different about less moon vest? And Tina pointed this out because you know we were we drove from Florence to there's like four-hour drive is fantastic You know it's every every 30 seconds seems like Because I'm uh, I blend into European driving left right whatever straddle the line Reading this to me And she says, these dates. These women that he apparently assaulted and I'm sure sounds like it's true there 37 52 these are not like young chickens these are you know these are mature women and some of them said fuck yeah i'm not gonna do that and walked away in the I think somewhere penalized but there something going on

1:53:07 and I'm not quite sure how to articulate it, but there's a certainly in show business. There is we have a situation where very powerful men actually exert their power and prove their power by doing this And it's really threatening women so far. Let's just say it's men doing this to women Because what you don't hear is don't tell anybody come on Don't Trump does that Trump's like oh, let me give you $150,000 don't tell anybody if my wife You know it's nice and he goes because he's a philandering douche but these guys are

1:53:48 It's different. They get their power by being scary men who can ruin your career and every story you read is women saying, well I didn't report it because I thought my chance of my career would be gone Oh yeah! I don't blame them for reporting either No, I don't blame them either but It's a two-way street in the patriarchy. You know, we need some heroes here and we have a few but we need more heroes who say I'm gonna stand up to this guy! I don't care about my career but you know when you read over and over again people care about their career and it just propagates and look at these guys... And they're all weenie boy dickheads! You and I could beat up any one of them

1:54:32 You and I could beat him up. Do you understand what i'm saying? These are douchebags. Yeah, that's pretty pathetic Yes! Now let's go to the newest guy The Clean Sweep at CBS And this is CBS reporting on the firing the head of news and the head is the 60-minute show Fager mm-hmm they ousted him while you were traveling around while you were looking at the art in Florence We didn't go to Florence not look in the old art in Florence, but okay. You're floating around we were drinking toilet wine yes Like it like a dog

1:55:11 Let's just a couple the long clip and then there's the kicker which is the woman who's reporting on this is The one who was at the center of the problem for this guy Fager, who does sound like a complete douchebag And he was part of the moonves click along with Charlie Rose. Let's go CBS fires Fager 1. CBS News today fired Jeff Fager, the executive producer of 60 Minutes Who'd spent 36 years at the network In less than a year now, three of the most powerful men in broadcasting, Fager CBS chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves and CBS This Morning co-host Charlie Rose all accused of sexual misconduct have either been fired or resigned. Jerika Duncan has the latest on Fager including his controversial text message Jeff Fagert, the executive producer at the oldest and most successful news magazine program in history 60 Minutes was fired from CBS News this afternoon

1:56:07 In its more than 50 years on air, only two people have led that broadcast. Fager succeeded the show's creator Don Hewitt in 2004. Fager also recently served as the chairman of the CBS News division. When we cover a story and report it on Sunday night and it has impact on Monday morning That's what you hope for. Fager hired Charlie Rose from multiple roles at the network in November, Rose was terminated this July six female former CBS employees told The New Yorker fader would touch employees and ways that made them uncomfortable drinking at office parties. Wait a minute so they're an office party

1:56:50 And everyone of course is drinking at the office party and then the guy touches him in ways that they feel uncomfortable. This is why- Well, let's imagine a couple of those things. A couple things you've witnessed it. Yeah I've had office parties, I've been a boss yes There's Ben the guy who goes up and he says, oh hi you're new here. And then he is like shaking her hands and then rubbing her arm very slowly with his left hand down douche douche douche. The other one is the guy who likes to slap as just sit next somebody puts his hand on our knee And then if she doesn't like take the hand off the knee immediately girls take a hint here You either leave the knee you they leave the hand on there or you don't but if you leave it on there It's gonna start moving. Yes and north Yeah, north and so that is to me uncomfortable This guy he looks like a douche But did you really shouldn't have office parties?

1:57:50 You know, I've always been a fan of having Friday afternoon drink with everybody and then you go home and you go to your family and your partner and have fun. But office parties is not a good idea." Yeah, you might be right. That's what you hope for. Fager hired Charlie Rose from multiple roles at the network in November Rose was terminated This July, six female former CBS employees told the New Yorker Fager would touch employees in ways that made them uncomfortable after drinking at office parties. 19 current and former employees told the New Yorker Fager allowed harassment in the division. Fagor vehemently denied all of those claims. Fager continued to come to work on Sunday, The New Yorker reported a new accuser said she felt compelled to speak because she simply can't believe Fager is back there

1:58:41 The article described her as a producer who was an intern at CBS in the early 2000s, who said that he groped her out of work party. In response to that allegation, Fager told CBS News this is an outrageous claim and it didn't happen it is wrong Fager's departure comes days after CBS chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves resigned following allegations of sexual assault and harassment. We caught up with CBS News President David Rhodes today, after he briefed the 60 Minute staff Can't talk to you guys about this today. In a statement today, Rhodes said Fager's dismissal is not directly related to the allegations surfaced in press reports which continued to be investigated independently however he violated company policy and it is our commitment uphold those policies

1:59:31 Through his attorney, Fager told CBS News, Hm. Now let's stop there A couple of things, one the CBS president wouldn't talk. This is a report by CBS! Well hello... I mean if your own president you know what is wrong with you? Get rid of him too. For real And then they did get rid of him on a technicality because when this woman doing the report is the one who got the note and she revealed it publicly and she's now going to go back and read the note

2:00:16 It's a tweet or email or text. And when you hear it, you're going to go oh shit everything is true! My language was harsh CBS did not like it I am that reporter since Jeff Fager publicly referred to our exchange today I want to be transparent about it first here some background Sunday evening I reached out to fader for comment on the articles alleging he groped or touched CBS employees at company parties In addition to denying these charges, Fager in a text said to me quote if you repeat these false accusations without any of your own reporting To back them up. You will be held responsible for harming He went on to say Be careful there are people who lost their jobs trying to harm me and if you pass on these damaging claims Without your own reporting to back them up up that will become a serious problem

2:01:17 I gotta ask you a question. We are two older white straight males we have both been in positions of power, I had the company with 400 employees public company why Do we not do this and why are there some guys who do or is it pure? I mean, what is it what happens? Is it because these guys have they've wives at home partners What is going wrong? What is happening? It can't just be that men need to spread their seed everywhere There's something you know. I mean if something is very very wrong Their relationship is wrong. I mean

2:02:02 I'm struggling to understand how this happens. It's not in my DNA, and I know it's not in yours... How does this happen? Where is this coming from? Is it purely the industry, the sector...? I think the industry is largely responsible and you gravitate toward these industries when you're floating around them whether for a little short term or long term It's kind of almost part of that subculture of these industries, the TV radio movie industry. The subculture is very sexual. Well that's also because the product is sexual so that makes sense advertising I would say politics as well I think you know it's still advertising or advertising a message there's there's that show business for ugly people is often said

2:02:51 So I think this just a business with sexual nature in it is not helpful, but damn how does it happen? I think if you were I don't know how it happens because it's never happened to us. But if you were like getting, well, I mean, Moodvest is going to get $100 million for getting kicked out. Well they're clawing back. So you're making 50 million dollars a year let's say and you're running CBS and you're calling the shots online all these shows that you know that your green... You're the guy doing all of this work. So its just power? Your saying its just power but have that power over people that makes you- Yeah I think its intoxicating

2:03:32 And, okay. But I've had power! So it could happen to anybody and it happens to women look at Janet Napolitano's operation when she was running the Homeland Security. Yeah Yeah, but I don't want to pollute the waters and just trying to understand how it happens. Why it happened? And is it in every industry? It seems like it's not...it's in politics, it's in banking or finance. It's everywhere so what is power then? Is this just power that's the answer we have? Well, that's the only answer I can come up with its yeah power and control well

2:04:11 The only other side is that two podcasters don't have well not anymore for sure But there's also there's a new video that I it was. I'm sure there stuff to clip, but it's really you have to see I did put It in the show notes and as this young woman who had a meeting with Harvey Weinstein She says she locked the door and he raped her eventually but she has video of their second meeting she'd met him briefly before and then she's pitching her company or a product to him and you know there's a hug and then he's talking, and she's leaning in. I'm like holy moly! I can see where every move she made was interpreted by him as oh yeah i'm scoring right now not blaming her but it's just like

2:04:55 I don't know, my head hurts from it. It is...I really don't understand it. I don't." Well these are like the guys you know they say oh she's into me you know doesn't care he just thinks the guys are creepy. Because they're delusional because these guys are clearly delusional! Yeah well it's a symptom of something and somebody better get to the bottom of it because or everything's just going to implode Don't know if these guys were any good who are getting fired. I would presume that you know Matt Lauer getting fired was Was that actually a hurtful to the network? Did they miss anything did they lose revenue over that do you know what I mean They would like to have you know, he's one of those guys It was good at you know when they're gonna go out and it sales pitch right senders You got a gal a lower there

2:05:41 Hey, how you doing? It's like a really glad hand. That was funny. You mentioned that about Scott Adams he was that guy and of course as I'm listening to your interview with him like oh crap! I've been that guy most of my life too. Bring Curry along some chick there will probably remember him from MTV and buy our stupid product. Yeah It's very common, we had kind of celebrity sales guys at PC Magazine for a while. They weren't known to anybody except for the people that saw them. They're these really good looking, really really good looking guys and most of the women ad buyers were women and so you'd send these guy in there and they would be like the flirtatious, they bat their eyes and do all the things a girl would do and I remember one time was told this by one of his sales people

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2:19:17 Okay, some interesting things. This is I guess there was some deputy spokesman who? Who was sitting in for Sarah Huckabee Sanders? And he got a question from, and it was odd that he didn't know. It was odd that the reporter asked this question here it is. The President Obama said President Trump would need a magic wand to get the 4% GDP. That was a direct quote from President Obama. Did President Obama ever say that? I don't know. I'm sorry and again I am not the chairman of the Council of Twitter Advisors but I was trying to go back up yeah. So the question is

2:19:57 The president tweeted out that Obama said he needed a magic wand to get to the 4.1 GDP Yeah, is that a direct? I believe you said that too and it didn't exactly say that but for this guy to ask it if with this and for This this spokeshold to be I don't know It's not that hard to go find the video There's no answer to it He just says well, I'm gonna negotiate a better deal. Well hot What how exactly are you going to negotiate that what magic wand do you have and? Usually the answer is he doesn't have an answer So we did kind of say that I just found it odd though. Why would a report was he trying to trap this this newbie? Deputy dude into something no idea just these guys at the whole of that hold press conference I can't watch it bags Oh, yeah

2:20:52 So then the President Obama came out with a, I guess he was receiving an award and he had all these things to say about president Trump. And it's kind of sad that that he's feeling forced. He has to do this because no president really does that. You know bitches about that guy? The next guy Oh you know Bush stayed out of the way for four or five six years before didn't say anything came out of his hole. And then when he did it was just to promote a book right now. And so Obama had to say a bunch of things, but he did flub one which was... I don't know. This was a good catch for one of our producers since i've been on the road but He made a pretty interesting flub and this may be under the category of what you accuse others You are guilty of yourself. Do not be democratic or republican it should not be a partisan issue To say that we do not pressure The attorney general Or the FBI to use the criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents

2:21:56 or to explicitly call on the Attorney General to protect members of our own party from prosecution because an election happens to be coming up. Oops! Did the truth slip out there? To protect from persecution, oh boy... Oops. How does that happen you gotta wonder how did that happen It's got to be going on is what you're thinking it's gotta be in his head and then the last one We were trying to figure out why Netflix, of all companies decided to move everyone away from using the term binging. Don't binge! Oh we don't want to use binge because it doesn't sound lukes. It doesn't sound lukes enough. Yes this does not sound lukes. That's what that was I mean that's my...I've used that term all the time which is why it's extra funny for me but for them say ah we want our brand to be more Luke's

2:22:46 And I think the only thing we could come up with is that maybe because the Obamas are now going to be executive producers and have a reasonable budget. That was your thesis, yeah So listen to what he said here... So if you don't like what's going on right now and you shouldn't do not complain Don't hashtag! Don't get anxious! Don't retreat! Don't binge on whatever it is you're binging on What do you think? I think he's part of the plan here Maybe that's interesting. Hmm don't binge. Whatever you're binging on, don't binge on it. One of our producers sent me a note saying well maybe we should change the word to marathon. Marathon? I don't like that at all. Yeah sit down and go on a marathon and watch all the House of Cards shows No i dont like that

2:23:40 But I don't like any of it. In fact, they refused to somebody says something's binge worthy. I just tweeted this I'm not gonna ever look at the product so there were a couple new Text messages that came out between these so-called lovers the FBI lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page yeah, and And I think the only conspirators, I think they only strengthen my argument actually which I will your arguments the bright argument They were conspiring to overthrow the government United States of America and should be both in jail. In fact if you listen to the text of one of the most recent SMS text messages. You'll see what I mean. Get this, newly revealed text messages between FBI's lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page show the couple were apparently involved in a scheme to leak stories to the press. All right so this happened in April 2017 and Peter Strzok he texted her, texted Page and said, I have literally just gone to find this phone to tell you that I want to talk about media leak strategy with the DOJ before you go

2:24:43 Now, I don't know about you but if i'm carrying on an affair with this super hot FBI chick... uh.. I'm not gonna say oh! I literally had to go find the phone to text you about this. You have this phone, you know in your underwear. You know that's how you are with the clandestine love? You know this year like it always have this you'll never say I had to go find a phone that I do all my sexting with you on to tell you but These guys were never doing that Which is exactly how you should look at this as two conspirators not lovebirds and no one is picking up on this It's beyond me

2:25:26 I have another, oh i have a Judge Napolitano take on this if you're interested. Of course! FBI leaks? Unbelievable it's not unbelievable the federal government is the best leaker in the world and they do this when they want to target a person who did they target their boss the president of the united states by leaking information to the press and then using the press sources as a basis to get a FISA warrant. This was in 2017? Correct, I have been a critic of FISA for 40 years it's been around since 1978 It lowers the standard for issuing a warrant And it is so secret?

2:26:05 The temptation for FBI agents, instead of going to judges like I was where you have to demonstrate probable cause of crime and the judge grills you and decides whether or not he's gonna sign the warrant. Go to the FISA court which delivers this number will blow you away 99.97% percent of all warrant requests because there is no scrutiny, there is no transparency. There is no challenge and the standard is so low. They sent that text message on April 10th 2017 two days later he writes her and says well done Paige because he was told that they're going to be 2 negative articles about Paige's namesake they say which is Carter Page coming out

2:26:49 congratulating her on getting these negative stories out into the press. Well, this is obviously the wrong way for the FBI to conduct law enforcement Here's what a lot of people probably want to know Is it a crime? Depends on what they leaked if you leave secrets secrets grand jury information that can be prosecuted He might sue yes all right There you go It's despicable It's totally despicable. I'm the same as you, I am stunned that this has been allowed to fester. Yeah. Alright well...I've got one thing left Oh! I have a couple things good

2:27:26 Well, then you do one more. Okay Elon Musk man the former New York banker is smart He said Elon Musk was just one New York Times into a Wall Street Journal interview away from From being $200 a share in January which is what we'd what we passed on to everybody and it looks like he's getting pretty close Here's the podcast hit piece on Elon Musk, which I thought was fun to listen to. M5M. Out of that wild live interview that has people talking billionaire Elon Musk of Tesla and SpaceX fame like we've never seen him before smoking pot on YouTube and if he was looking to reassure shareholders after recent controversies this was likely not the way to do it NBC News national correspondent Miguel Almaguer has the story

2:28:15 The two and a half hour interview with Elon Musk described as provocative, personal and intriguing. But today it's this moment making headlines across the business world I mean it's legal right? It is totally legal. Okay. Musk under fire after taking a hit of marijuana mixed with tobacco. I'm not regular smoker of weed, but don't find that it is very good for productivity. Critics say its just the latest misstep for the billionaire CEO Tesla and SpaceX amid rumors have drug use on social media must hold The New York Times this past year has been the most difficult in painful year up my career

2:29:06 He is going through some issues and he's bringing everyone along for the ride. Now whether that's a good thing for shareholders or not, it obviously wasn't today. Working to revolutionize transportation with high-speed underground pods Musk may also be on the cutting edge of artificial intelligence but tonight Tesla stock is dropping after its CEO took a hit Miguel Almaguer, NBC News Los Angeles. Now what is the thing most bothersome about this report? If you're Joe Rogan you're pissed off not once was Joe Rogan mentioned Oh that's right! You're right On YouTube! Just a big podcast That is so lame

2:29:52 It is lame. NBC should be ashamed of themselves. Joe Rogan's like, wow that was no good because obviously it was a great plus for the show and just having Elon Musk on in general is a great plus for the show as a guy I can't call you know You could call this person and they will tell you no Exactly I could call his person to get rejected mmm On the DHM plug show, I have said this and I've said that I've said this I think on this show. I think he's trying to get himself fired sure looks like it They just won't do it. I mean he's like at his wits end. I think he knows what's going on with Tesla Okay go ahead

2:30:38 I think the Tesla Model 3 looks like a piece of crap. And not only that, he knows they're doomed! The whole battery car sector is doomed It's just not there. He does, he's one of those guys who doesn't want to get blamed so he wants out. Yeah you're right and by the way that Model 3 I've seen a couple in around here because of that stupid front end at boat looks like a boat front end doesn't have a grill or nothing it just looks like some sort of a horrible looking cheap front-end mm-hmm it is not attractive. While we are on cars for a moment... So were in the offseason I forgot to mention

2:31:22 Italy, I don't know if it's the season or what's going on. It's cheap! Cheap... We had two glasses of rosé Equivalent $10 You want to buy that anywhere in America? Certainly in Austin It would be $25 Food Everything is cheap here And maybe the season So anyway we got a great deal on Mercedes C220 diesel Which was station wagon and I wanted for the suitcases Holy crap, and I've always hated Mercedes. This is a great car It's got nine speeds, you know it says automatic. Is this an ad? This is not a native ad! I'm telling you I'm very impressed with thi- I mean not the technology at your typical rental car technology like I'm like whoo I'll just move my seat Tina has to do the clunk clunk the levers You know slide on the rails bit to move her seat And it doesn't have adaptive cruise control any of that stuff but just as a ride just driving

2:32:24 And especially for a diesel and we're getting 1,200 miles on the full tank. This is very interesting vehicle. That's a lot of miles. I don't know what it costs. It doesn't seem like it's crazy expensive car. I don't know...it's not their high end of anything but just the ride though....I've always thought Mercedes was like a tank This is not like a tank very impressed with that now. Yeah, that's my native ad for the day Well, I can't wait to get home to Austin to see the Mercedes waiting mail from me Mercedes-Benz They'll be dropping one of those cars off yeah back to NPR who for some reason I think in Michael Z our producer who monitors NPR for us and

2:33:08 He also feels that NPR is now trying to move towards getting the MSNBC audience more of that Rachel Maddow goodness, you know? That sticky stuff they love so much. they're doing it in an obvious way. This is their interview with Marco Rubio and it's so obvious that the guy wants to get Rubio to say he's not fit, he should be impeached referring to the president of course but listen to him I cut a few bits out here so there are one or two spots where the spaces are come quicker than they would in the original interview. Of course, you can always get the source material at nashownotes.com and you can download the full clip but listen to this. This op-ed writer describes a president who's so erratic that there were quote whispers in the cabinet about applying the 25th Amendment which is a way to remove a president who seen as unable to perform his duties

2:34:02 Late in the presidency of Ronald Reagan, his then chief of staff Howard Baker conducted an examination even talking to the president himself to try and determine is there a 25th amendment problem here. Should John Kelly be doing that? about a behavioral issue in terms of what some people claim anonymously, they don't like temperament. And that's a very different situation I've never had John Kelly or frankly anyone in the administration come to me and said any of the things that have been reported in the last 72 hours. Should you be coming to them and asking? Well again, I mean uh... You could but ultimately why

2:34:43 And I suppose in the end, if they had these real concerns and in the types of conversations that we've had with people on the past. I'm confident that would have come out. Does the president strike you and your interactions with him or the staff around him as responsible focused on target? Yeah, well he strikes me as Donald Trump which is not a political figure. He understands and describes issues differently from someone who served 20 years in the Senate would describe them but he has a pretty clear understanding of what's at stake with China. He has a pretty clear understanding on the conversations I've had with him about what's at stake in Venezuela He has a pretty clear understanding of the risks involved in this engagement with South Korea, North Korea. Clear understanding about North Korea? He proclaimed that the nuclear threat has been taken care of with North Korea which is obviously not true. Well again that goes back to the non-political guy and that is somewhat... That's not non political it's not true No but let me tell you why because in his view he's a negotiator, he's applying his business principles

2:35:37 And that's why I tell you, he wouldn't express himself the way a 20-year senator or member of the Council on Foreign Relations would. In his mind, I'm a negotiator and the way to get the other guy is give me more than what I want is to be nice to him. One more thing...I asked if he fit? You answered well he's Donald Trump. I understand that but IS HE FIT?! I have not personally seen or been told by anybody anything that causes me to believe That he's not fit to serve as president. Are you willing to say in a positive sense? Yes, he is fit based on everything i've seen and known now that doesn't mean I agree with everything He's done or every conclusion. He's reached what does this fit shit all of a sudden since when do we use the term? This guy is npr guy

2:36:16 What's wrong with NPR? I told you they're trying to get the MSNBC audience by badgering, leading and lying. It's kind of annoying! It's a public operation... what do they want?! Well then John- I find that one of the most annoying clips you've ever played EVER. Oh, you're welcome I'm glad, i could do that. No wait! I'll give you a borderline clip of the day. Well that's very kind of you this... Whereas I thought this uh clip from Dutch television with Stormy Daniels might get me somewhere Is there something you know now which we will know soon that could bring down this presidency?

2:37:02 I say that we have a fit. Yes, there's stuff that I know and I would say it's 50-50 shot at this point Which is pretty scary odds if you're the president? She's off in Europe talking crap 50-50 shot I got stuff that'll take him down. I'm stormy Daniels damnit basta We haven't done OTG. I do want to mention a couple things about being OTG on the road in Europe which means I've had only the Microsoft Surface Go and my Kyocera flip phone. The flip phone has functioned just wonderfully

2:37:44 It's done everything I needed to do to stay in touch with everybody and of course, I still have the iPhone at home in Austin plugged-in with WhatsApp running for the... Actually my sisters are still on WhatsApp. They have a siblings group so I can get that on my surface. I wanted to say I am so in love with this device! This is your next native ad and for me to say that it odd and I learned You know Microsoft has put in so many features and does so much option creep you're talking about the go Yeah, the surface. Go yeah like outlook I know you were kind of laughing at that and I had a huge one of those Outlook things where you get an error saying oh no your MSAPI 33 dot DLL is no good reinstall

2:38:32 Oh, yeah. Oh yeah and then if you google that big mistake because half of the thing will download this little app We'll fix it for ya or call this number toll-free we'll fix it for you It's just you know And of course I'm so stupid because I'm trying to Google the answer cuz it looked like a technical problem all I really needed To do is just go to the Microsoft Store and install it again But man, can you customize that thing? I don't think any email program has all the customization for views and rules with automatic replies. For someone who's a novice who comes in and you see the ribbon on any Microsoft product it just makes you want to cry it's so complicated but once you get into it...I'm very impressed!

2:39:20 I never thought I would say this. I never thought that, I'd thought it was because you're in love your head over heels and so everything's wonderful here's the article i want to share with you for our OTG segment this is what they call seven cell phone facts that will make you question your addiction and I wasn't surprised by some of these facts let's just say that their true Because they're in an article on the internet so they must be true. No, it must be true. It's illegal otherwise. iPhone owners unlock their devices as an average of how many times a day do you think? 20 80 80 times a day

2:39:58 All right, oh this is good. We'll do questions You've heard of the phantom vibrations where someone thinks that they're it's happened to me Okay, and I don't even use the phones that much Maybe with some other vibration device know what percentage of undergraduates in In the study experienced phantom vibrations what percentage? 95 now 89 89 so you're a little higher than we thought And this was a this was a frightening statistic Percentage of Millennials who wake up at least once every night to check their phones. Ooh I would say 50 53% and I'm daily that here you are that is

2:40:43 Surprising. They wake up, it says to check their phone so does that mean they wake up and they want to check their phone or they wake up with a need to check their phone? I'm not so sure Maybe just looking for the time i have no idea And these are combined surveys I guess this comes from comScore data Average person spends how many hours a day on their phone The average US adult Eight. No, it's not that bad two hours and 51 minutes. That's nothing three hours on your phone 80 I'll just instead of asking you questions 89% of mobile phone owners said in the survey they use their phones during their most recent social gathering which Church 4 percent movie theater 5 percent during a meeting five percent family dinner 12 percent at a restaurant 38 percent

2:41:40 While waiting in line 74% on public transportation 75 percent and my favorite while walking down the street 77% Yeah, those numbers are low. Yeah now we have What do you think percentage during sex? 8 9 % Oh man am I good in the shower Oh, that's actually a higher number than I think people realize. It's probably closer to 20%. No no 12% but church 19%, and then we have dinner date 33% and at child or school function this is low I think 32% seems low. Yeah it's really low. The damn play!

2:42:28 Yeah It's just it's sad recital and again for those of you who are going the OTG lifestyle By having a phone with you that will let you communicate with the modern world But it makes it difficult to do it which keeps you sane You get so much enjoyment from watching everybody else. And then somebody sent me an email saying hey look, and they sent me out there was an article about how a lot of Millennials and others are even your group are picking up on this OTG idea, saying again that you're from the future. You're actually a trend setter and you don't know it. I mean, it's not because of you but you sense these things and you do them in advance of the trend itself. I pick the hits. That's what I've done all my life. I picked the hits. I think two of us both did that a lot. Totally! We are hit pickers. Look, you give us an album we'll pick the hit for three points over retail

2:43:22 Definitely can take the hits. Let me see. Oh yes, maybe this one just to bring us up to speed on the latest category in the Academy Awards." Following a wave of criticism, The Oscars' new popular film category has been put on hold! The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is postponing the debut of the new category that it had intended to introduce at next Academy Awards in February. The academy made an announcement that it's shelving the idea for now on Thursday

2:44:06 after a meeting of the Board of Governors on Tuesday. However, the Academy said it will continue to discuss the idea for the award and will examine and seek additional input regarding the new category. The announcement explained that implementing the new award nine months into the year created challenges for films that have already been released Academy CEO Don Hudson said on Thursday, there's been a wide range of reactions to the introduction. I'm gonna have to stop this. I don't want to kill myself if i have to listen that voice anymore anyway The bottom line is oops they recalled their category which was going to save what's the name in the movie Black Panther from the embarrassment. Black Panther the academy award for best picture because it's about black people yeah

2:44:48 Which is fine. I mean, you know But if it was a better movie maybe to be better and you might get you know You can actually win an award if you make a movie that's got a story Oh, please don't get all technical now And I think, yeah. I've got so much stuff that I've been collecting...I think we should just do it on Sunday? I think we're kind of up to speed for now. Okay well I got a good bit then coming up which i'll save for Sunday. That was going to be tonight. Actually have two good bits left on here on the sheet and then I do have that clip of Jimmy Kimmel framing his pants.

2:45:25 And we'll run that too and I think we have a pretty good show coming up. Now what's your travel schedule look like? So Saturday, we take the train to Switzerland. What are you going to do with your car?! Oh no! We drop it off in Como. Yeah, so as long as it's the same country it's okay. So I drop that off there We take the train and- Wait wait wait we mean the same country? We're talking about the EU It's one giant big happy Kumbaya country Oh yeah good luck with that my friend Oh bad luck for Switzerland Oh yes Okay That's a topic I'll have to report on I have noticed how it really isn't all that big happy kumbaya All member states so I definitely had that for us Yeah I know stunning isn't it

2:46:07 And coming to you from the angry microclimate of Lake Como here in northeastern Italy, where I'm very happy and yes. I am in love In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I remain And the weather here is nice too. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday with another episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe right here on your NOA Agenda Show, part of it from northern Silicon Valley and part of it from Switzerland. Until then remember us at dvorak dot org slash N-A-N Adios mofos!

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